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One final act of entropy edition

>Guide
https://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2
>Destiny Rising
https://www.playdestinyrising.com/

>Newslmao
TWID (6/18): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_06_18_2026
Update 9.7.0.3: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_2_update_9_7_0_3
Destiny 2 End of Service: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/d2_may_21_2026

>Resources
DIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/
Destiny Report: https://destiny.report/
Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/
API: https://www.light.gg/
Stats: https://destinytracker.com/
Braytech: https://braytech.org/
PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2
Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/
Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/

>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/

Previous:>>575355671
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bumping this ultra niche game's thread for trans visibility
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>>575805278
Wrong general please refer to >>575795074
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>>575805550
>n-no, you must have meant the marathon thread
seeing that it's more active than this one, no, this is the right general
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>>575806136
To be fair all of the browns are up and discussing it. Destiny is an American man's game and you gotta wait for us to wake up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-gVXR7Thno
ITS FUCKING OVER
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I thought we had to study its comeback or something
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>>575806314
>even during American time there is like one reply every 10 minutes
Cope.
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>>575806361
>In this scenario I made up, Marathon is dead
Honestly, Bungie getting rid of Destiny first lead to a much funnier scenario because now you guys are constantly seething at the younger disabled brother getting all the attention.
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https://x.com/moji_irl/status/2082614923025342666
>this dude got old builds to run on pc
bros?
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>>575806725
Its 8 EST silly brownoid don't you know most gamers wake up at 10? Oh what am I saying you wouldn't know because you only watch twitch streamers all day
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>>575806841
Its the 2013 pre-alpha build of the game which I think is on the internet archive. Its pretty interesting but doesn't include much actual content its got 1 mission on venus, 1 strike on venus, venus patrol and 3 crucible maps and like 1-2 crucible modes. Its interesting that The Skywatch used to be a crucible map apparently. That build also has the Vault of Glass but none of the scripting or activity stuff just the zones.
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RANDOM SCREENSHOT FROM FOLDER CHALLENGE START NOW
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>>575811467
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>>575811467
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GAMERS
WHICH PANTS GIVE FEMHUNTERS THE BIGGEST ASS
THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
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>the word "something" is censored in chat
They couldn't even show some competence at being censorial cunts.
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>>575804658
>visibly cringe and smile at the same time when I see this in my jewtube recommended
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>>575817179
START STUDYING
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>they don't know that when the marathon numbers go below zero they wrap around to the maximum positive value
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>>575806136
It literally dropped off the catalog during active hours what do you mean?
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>>575806361
It's a pretty good and fair video.
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>>575817035
Nigga, fucking SHATTER is censored
a goddamn GAME MECHANIC
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>>575815304
I think the size is pretty static, just wear something skin tight.
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gaped.
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>>575820078
Show the escape from duckov numbers, it's always fun seeing that amateur joke game outperforming Marathon.
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>>575820234
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>>575820078
>arc crashing out too
kek, this truly is the most astroturfed fake hype game genre in history
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You chuds better be nice to Hippy or she's going to send her security team after you.
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>>575822076
Is this bitch just addicted to lying or something
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>>575822076
Like thats going to stop her from claiming the Destiny chuds raped her.
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>>575822076
locking your account is an admission of being wrong, in this case lying
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>>575822076
>the very thought of accountability terrifies you
she'd know all about that
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>>575820679
it made an absolute shit ton of money tho
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>>575823563
No no it's bloody fake and hype astroturfed saar. Marathon is the real extraction shooter that the people want. Kindly delete your post.
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Destroy us
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>>575824437
Is he going to have to get a job?
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>>575824437
Raped by the jabba-ification.
Raped by the norwood reaper.
Raped by getting fat.
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>>575822076
>"I have done nothing but praise the Destiny community"
>Claims that they were the ones that assaulted her at a Florida airport
>Beefing up security for Gamescom when she's a nobody across the world
Hippy is a weird individual.
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>>575824437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqo4OZ0Pqs
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>me with my Truth
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>>575824437
He's IN marathon he's IN it
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remember this gem?
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>>575822076
You might say hippy is escalating
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>>575835000
>"NO NO NO I ACTUALLY LOVE MARATHON AND IT'S MY FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT AT ALL"
>But
I love that every post has to start like this or their mods delete it. A true sign of a stable community.
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>>575824437
>when they tell you that they liked the old story tone and lore better and that the new shit sucks so you have to hit them with that "seven straight therapy session seasons" stare
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>>575820410
I expected Destiny to be lower than this already. Obviously those aren't good numbers but still.
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>>575836125
The Destiny numbers aren't amazing but they're still better than what Marathon can get while it's free to play and launching a new season.
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I'll give you 3 guesses as to which one of us is the [[[elite]]]pvp main
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>>575836125
Its worse if you look at it from Popularity.report's playercount. D2 is naturally declining because people have lost interest due to a lack of new content and Bungie stubbornly working on Marathon, and even then its still outperforming Marathon. Fucking Edge of Fate and Renegades outsold Marathon during the Steam summer sale even.
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>>575837165
neither of the warlocks
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>>575837165
Does wearing IB armor still give bonus progress
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>>575840401
yeah but it's like 10% max I think, not worth it
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Are we back?
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>>575842063
Are you lost, fren?
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>>575842063
surprised they're still even supporting that game, not that it was bad but it got extremely repetitive fast.
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rape
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>decide to indulge in some red game with iron banner
>game never drops below 120fps
>game stutters for a solid half-second any time a player appears on the screen
I rarely use the term "unplayable" but this seems to be one of those times where it is appropriate. Anyone else experiencing something similar?
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>>575845619
Known issue
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>>575806831
Is this seething here with us right now?
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>>575843915
Rising team was also affected by layoffs, and with the quality/quantity of new content being so shit people have been suggesting that NetEase have a skeleton crew running vibe-coded and AI designed non-updates.
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>>575823563
>Blue Archive numbah #3
Sensei is unbreakable
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>>575824437
Still somehow not as much of a rape victim as Myelin.
Congratulations?
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I was raped by hippy
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When did they remove the engram tracker and why?
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>>575845619
Known PC* issue.
>>575845735
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Reminder that only 1/3 of the Last Days At Kraken Mare lore book was ever released. I was written by Seth Dickinson who wrote the books of sorrow and all the other good lore.
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>using Polaris Lance + The Forward Path on Meltdown
Ah, I'm home.
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>>575852681
>no scope
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>>575853113
?
Ok the Forward Path is more of a sight than a scope
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>>575853113
>he doesn't have an old scoped forward path
glim
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No it's shards
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it's cores
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>>575822076
The thing I don’t understand is why was she even there? Like she already expressed hatred and disdain for what she felt was unfair firing from the company, the original “burning bridges” video released on the eve of TFS launch basically alluded to how she felt like she was passed over for things due to Dmg being best boy. BPD hoe
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>>575855456
She's a grifter wannabe booth slut that last i checked had latched onto warframe. So she is still "involved" with the industry and is expected to go to cons.
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>>575842063
What is this slop?
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>>575855456
Hippy lives for attention
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>>575856947
Destiny Rising. Don't know who the chick is
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>>575858876
Oh shit, they're adding new content to it finally?
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>>575859667
I tgink they've rolled out a new character every other month since release. There's been new missions, matchmade activities, and other nonsense with every character release. There's only been one "expansion" released so far with a new area and loot table. I have no clue if this is an expansion or just a character release.
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Maybe if homeboy spent as much time playing as he did bitching, he wouldn't have place 5th.
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>>575862894
You know, the one thing I was looking forward to with that AI game assistant overlay they apparently killed was the possibility of having real-time translations for unsupported languages. There is a whole world of games and communication that would have opened up.
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Holler
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>>575864345
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>>575865032
does anyone have his "Destiny will continue" tweet?
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>>575865496
Do you want it with or without the community note?
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>>575866886
either way
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>>575864345
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>>575864345
Did he miss the part where he says "Even when it's disabled" or am I misunderstanding?
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>>575867019
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>>575867382
f
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>>575867382
did he delete the tweet?
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>>575867537
Nah
https://x.com/A_dmg04/status/1912162044893085908
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>>575864345
I wish this useless faggot got fired, why do they even need him anymore?
Is it really just jewish tier job security?
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>>575865496
If Bungie wants to live they'll make damn sure it continues in one form or another.
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Chat, have I missed any updates from Jason Jones or Tyson Green since the layoffs?
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>>575868327
Anon...they both got laid off
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>>575868942
Tyson Green I 100% would have been laid off, but Jason Jones probably took a golden parachute.
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>>575868327
in the report Jason was let go, idk about Tyson though
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>>575815304
Is it not still Lucky Pants?
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I need a PvP build for Iron banner, never touched red minigame and pve builds are ofc not really working
can be either Hunter or Warlock
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It's time, post ya gawdians
Bonus: Fits put on for Iron Banner
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>>575811467
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>>575870536
Put on the Boots of the Assembler and Lumina
>>575871264
I can't post the same goydians for the 10th time... Somebody give me a build to shoot for and make a terrible mog around (nothing past Lightfall cause I don't have the final slop or edge of slop). I never hide my exotic
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>>575871723
What class and/or subclass?
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They should've upped Sturm's damage and made it a special weapon.
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>>575871723
I dont want to be a meme heal guardian when most things kill you in under 2 seconds
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>>575871781
Whichever I don't really care. Although I haven't unlocked strand on Warlock somehow after all this time, maybe I should. Threadlings always looked silly to me
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>>575870536
I'm no Trials sweater but the good thing is that since it's 6v6, it's mostly Random Bullshit Go! and making sure you stick with teammates so that you're not constantly taking 1v2s like my dumb ass.

>>575872096
Strand Warlock is pretty fun, going for max threadlings is a good time and watching all those little rascals chase a Hunter around a corner and eat them alive never gets old. Do you fancy playing Strand Warlock with the Demosuffussion helmet?
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>>575873036
Well that helmet is out since I don't own the relevant content but sure why not
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>>575804658
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>>575873195
Ah, I forgot that part. But Strand is fun, the Needle melee has good range and you can rapid fire it.
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>>575873906
Probably will go for Swarmers then. That'll make for something to do which is different from the usual behemoth...
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>>575871264
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>>575870536
Void hunter, stompees, spare rations handcannon and shotgun of choice. Congrats on your unique build.
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>The Zoetic Lockset may be a group of Shriekers, but they don’t actually take precision damage
So that was a fucking lie.
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My time has come. Thank you /dg/
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>>575805550
Why are you slandering your future home like that? Everyone here is destined to become Runners once Season 3 drops.
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I guess I'll go next.

it's been fun /dg/, hope to see you all elsewhere, or even back for another Bungie game.
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>marasissies have decided to show up
Good. I was looking for some holes to gape.
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>>575880919
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>>575864345
Lol nothing like getting gaslit by Dmg and Bungie in full disbelief that their jank ass game would be full of jank. It was the same thing with how poorly optimized Marathon is/was? where people are rattling off more or less top of the line hardware and getting very unimpressive performance.
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>>575880919
See you tomorrow
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which one of you faggots bumped the Marathon thread it was about to archive and I wanted to make fun of it as it did
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>I won't leave /dg/ until the day i see marathon die with my own eyes
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>>575879454
>he doesn't know
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I want to use a machinegun as a general purpose weapon, you might even call it a general purpose machine gun, while using special ammo for DPS, which weapons should I go for?
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>>575884715
conspiracy honed for dps, service of luzaku for machine gun.
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Sony earning's call stuff soon /dg/, will you be reading it?
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>>575885207
>conspiracy honed
doesn't that overheat in like 2 shots
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>>575886675
Only if "fired everyone from bungie into the sun" is in it somewhere.
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>>575884715
DSC/VoG lmg, Choir of One for dps. Bring void surges.
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>>575887327
with the right roll you can shoot 11 in a row
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>>575887327
after that first reload you can shoot it for much longer because of dynamic heat limiter
its a little awkward and can take getting used to so praedyths is second best option
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>>575887395
Choir of one for DPS?
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>>575887870
dps is the one thing you cant use choir for
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Ugh just wipe
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are we wiping?
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>>575884120
>the lie was a lie
So this is the power of the Pyramids. Time to go get Anarchy and 1KV, I guess.
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>>575891607
you can kill zoetic with one melee. look it up
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Is Witchfire good? I heard Aztecross shilled it and Eso also played it.
It's a SP extraction shooter, apparently.
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>>575894594
>extraction shooter
Bleh
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>do a few legendary missions on my warlock to work towards unlocking Strand
>absolutely decimate everything
Damn we really got too strong. Probably shouldn't bother with Legendary though, it's not worth the hassle
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>>575899054
the only point of legendary campaigns are emblems and the extra loot at the end for power leveling.
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>>575899459
Well I already got that emblem back then when Lightfall came out so I think I'll skip the rest
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the chudlings did it bros.
they fucking did it
it was beautiful
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It took me 12 years to learn what dattos real name is
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How are we going to thank Datto for 12 years of service to this community and game?
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What are some good close range primary energy weapons for pvp?
Currently running the minitool, but not sure if theres better options (or what rolls are even good for it)
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>>575912992
a burst sidearm
go for stuff that increase stats and damage like lone wolf, headseeker, precision instrument, tap the trigger, moving target, etc. SMG's are fine, but sidearms tend to be better for fast burst damage in a pinch.
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>>575894594
>extraction shooter
wtf is this mental illness? just play a survival game ffs.
>but i'll lose my stuff
go take it back
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>>575894594
Witchfire is excellent
Ask what you want to know, I'm ready for shameless shilling
>>575898471
>>575922197
It's about as much of an "extraction shooter" as you can "extract" in basically any rougelike - at any time by making your way back up to the surface
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>>575871264
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Sorry guys, this place seems pretty empty, and it reeks with shit, so
*Takes a massive stinky, loud poopy on destinycucks*
Ah! Back to my Warframe thread, to enjoy good game ;)
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I forgot, does light level matter in Iron Banner?
I remember it used to
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>>575931398
no
IB is now more like unorthodox gamemodes rather than LL advantage.
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You gotta be fuckin' kidding me.
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>>575903184
Stefan Urquelle.
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>>575903184
Urgelius Nequate
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>>575903184
It doesn't matter since she'll be changing it soon.
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>>575934097
Dmg is a bunker bunny
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Why are there so many newblights in the EDZ?
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JingleBaza, do you want to play Destiny 2 with me?
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Does your performance in Iron Banner matter at all? I hate Destiny PvP so much but want the 4 set for PvE super spamming builds.
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>>575938195
no, not really
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>>575940697
You usually get more drops when you get a higher rating.
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>>575940697
What do you mean does it matter? For getting loot? Because yeah, you get more engrams for being good. My advice is to stick with teammates and get assists. Use thorn or le monarque. Use suppressor grenades because you will look like the most scrumptious kill feed snack if you group up like that.
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>>575886675
Posting it and highlights from Tassi's article
>In Sony’s new earnings report, the company addressed Marathon and the state that it’s in. And Sony remains positive about the game. There’s a singular line that Sony had about Marathon in its report, after citing other live service games like MLB The Show and Helldivers 2 as contributing “steadily to revenue.” That wasn’t said for Marathon, but rather:
>“With the release of Season 2 in June, Marathon has maintained a high user retention rate while also acquiring new users.”
>The oft-cited Steam charts show that the launch of season 2 of Marathon spiked the game to 40,000 concurrent players on PC, where I can report that the game has a 2:1 ratio of players of PC versus console, so that is the majority.
>Since then, concurrents went down close to 5,000 before nearly tripling to 14,000 for the mid-season 2 update, which brought Marathon’s first full-on PvE mode.
>I think this is a more traditional spin on the numbers. Concurrents are not all players, and Sony may be referring to a core group of players that have stuck with the game since the beginning, as it has very much engaged a select group. The problem, of course, is that group is very small.
>The overall point here is that Sony is publicly backing Marathon once again. It’s not reporting financial loss from the game in the report (that doesn’t mean there isn’t one), and there are no more Bungie impairment losses this time. It may be spin, but Sony is still talking about the game positively instead of, say, not mentioning it at all, which would be a bad sign.
>Of note, Sony, of course, does not mention Destiny 2 at all, a game that saw an enormous player surge in the wake of its final update, which clearly has high user retention. Its current figures, even after declines, are likely 10x or more past what Marathon is doing, particularly with a higher console percentage, which we can’t see publicly, unlike on Steam.
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>>575894594
I was quite decent in its earlierst versions, but it was long ago, no idea how it fares now. I heard they added a bunch of QoL to make the game suck less, which is always good. The game vaguely resembles Destiny in certain things, and the devs cited Destiny as inspiration at some point. The world messages appearing in the feed on the left of your HUD were shamelessly copied from Destiny. I personally hated that most weapons took a radical Destiny approach to fall-off and, with exception of maybe the sniper rifle, will fire bullets that turn into wet noodles beyond the 20-30 m range. You starting weapon back then was the hand canon, which was a really weird decision, and I hope they fucking added a visual distinction between charged and uncharged melee.
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>marathon so shit and irrelevant retards aren't posting about it in their own general
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>>575942864
>Mogged not only by the ancient MC Collection but also Campaign Evolved
>A game that isn't even multiplayer only
Jesus fuck
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>>575943381
>marathon is so irrelevant I'm discussing it right now
Holy fucking shit, you guys just bitch and cry all day. No wonder Bungie gave up on this series.
At least they left the servers up for newgods to try it.
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https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/
>"With the release of Season 2 in June, Marathon has maintained a high user retention rate while also acquiring new users."
Okay, well, Sony is just straight up lying to investors here
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>>575943634
You're brown.
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>Worked at Bungie from 2006-2015
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>>575944328
When I was in school around that era they called it positive discrimination. They were trying to program gen z with soviet style cognitive dissonance. I wonder where that came from. Thankfully it doesn't seem to have worked on boys because they treated us like shit but glazed the girls with endless praise and leniency. I hope they are just as unsuccessful with gen a.
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It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyQwNv3i00o
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>>575943990
Of course they're lying, even though its not a new IP its essentially treated as a new live service IP, and its a terrible look for it to already be dying out just 3 months after launch.
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Rhulk is the most Reddit raid boss of all time.
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The Traveler really just made all of its own worst enemies, huh.
>refuse to talk to witness' species
>they sperg out and refine themselves into a collective consciousness for some reason (granted, the witness being retarded isn't the traveler's fault)
>refuse to have the leviathan talk to the krill sisters and tell them that they only have to hold out for a bit longer and/or that the god-wave is a ruse
>they receive the worms from the worm gods instead of the ghosts from the traveler, become the hive, and begin a billion-year interstellar killing spree
>refuse to tell the eliksni archon-priests that the hive are coming after it and that they should prepare to evacuate
>they get blindsided by the one-two punch of the arrival of the hive and the traveler cutting and running, suffer literal apocalyptic losses multiple times over, and become a species of interplanetary refugees, pirates, and bandits
>a portion of them blame the traveler for this and move to hunt it down
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>>575945636
Not giving this faggot any attention. He needs to die with Destiny alongside every other cock swallower of Bungie.
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>>575946135
*Calus
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>>575946223
The Traveler is unironically a bratty tsundere loli, who if she doesn't get what she wants throws a fit and only in the end reluctantly asks for our help
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Im really confused on why marathon is still being supported by sony and I wonder how long they are gonna keep it running
Surely they aren't gonna do a whole 10 years of marathon like bungies 10 year plan with destiny. The only thing I can think of is the people who are currently playing bought out the whole store in the effort to keep it alive because there have been multiple posters showing proof they bought everything from the store
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>>575948000
>Why wasn't this Destiny!?
It all makes sense now!
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>>575949505
Destiny is an Activision project. Marathon is a Sony project.
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>>575946135
No. Rhulk should've been the design for the witness instead of megamind. He also has the best boss fight music in the game imo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nb3RIVb_hM&
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awesome another game against chinese players with 500 ping and sub 1ms reactions times very nice
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Hollow Words aging as well as it did is hilarious.
>innate anti barrier in MoT
>adaptive munitions
>repulsor brace
>take trace and void weapon support from tablet of ruin
>holocaust barriers and redbars and everything else
Are there any other random ancient seasonal weapons that aged strangely well?
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>>575943990
>sony mentions mlb the show and helldivers 2 in their live service games that get revenue
>doesnt mention marathon
This is the most telling part
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>>575946223
>>575948000
The Traveler, at least from what is implied in Visions you collect to obtain Khvostov (I think), comes off as an almost braindead autist which wants to communicate properly but is physically unable to respond through any means except maybe some vague metaphorical visions, and apparently the precursor race from which the Witness was born didn't even get that.
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>>575943990
>>575951696
Maybe they meant "Players in Discord" like last time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Aiok9-eew
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>>575949969
It probably boils down to just this. Activision and Bungie themselves funded most of Destiny's development, meanwhile Sony paid for a handful of expansions alongside Marathon and all of Bungie's cancelled incubation projects. They're clearly more invested emotionally and financially into Marathon because that's where the bulk of the money went to.
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>>575945636
Paul in his Doctor Who phase.
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>>575943634
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong link, the Reddit sub's two blocks down.
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>>575944328
And my dad works at Nintendo too.
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>>575953562
Niles worked at Bungie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Jswx6M0ew
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>>575953773
And his dad worked at Nintendo?
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>>575954060
Maybe, you should ask him.
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https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_3_credits
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We are peaceful rapists!
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>>575954135
I'm sorry I just can't take anyone seriously that talks about DEI like 20 years ago. This dude is just another goofy online; don't give a shit if he personally set up each platform in Donkey Kong 64 using a Nokia flip phone.
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>playing gambit for some Spare Ration and Python rolls
>invadr enemy team in second round
>shoot truth at 3 en-
>they die immediately
>fucking hitscan rocket
>same thing happens to a enemy invader who gjallarhorn hitscans us
>next match truth works like normal
Ok what the fuck was that, it happened twice now
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>>575954295
I had to check the run time because I genuinely thought it was looping
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What an odd admission to not include marathon in the part about generating revenue
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>>575956737
>Didn't include Marathon in the section of live service games contributing to revenue
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>>575957250
comeback comes first
revenue comes later
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>>575957365
Maybe they can just pay people in good vibes so they don't need to lay anyone off.
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>>575956737
>didn't mention destiny either
so destiny is also actively losing money? what's your point?
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>>575957820
>so destiny is also actively losing money?
probably not because right now they are just paying 1-2 shmups to make sure the servers don't die, but it's abandoned. why would they mention it?
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Bungie itself is probably still bleeding money so what does it matter
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More content is being removed
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>>575959736
Oh no not dishunction
Anyway
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>>575959736
they are going to nerf the europa set if they ever make a patch ever again.
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>>575959736
>disjunction
Oh no... Anyway I think red minigame sets should be the only ones enabled in red minigame. Yellow minigame sets in yellow minigame. And nobody cares about Gambit because nobody plays it (still more than other game)
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>>575959736
Huh, I kept thinking I was tripping that there were only 2 zones.
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>>575960848
disjunction was easy to cheese, you just cap A and you get double progress.
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>>575957820
Why would they mention a dead game, now say why they dont mention marathon in the paragraph about revenue
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Xur has the Fafnir catalyst, if you're missing it.
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>>575961783
>i don't believe the "good retention/new players" report about marathon, but i will stick to arguing about the way they structured the whole gaming report part
whatever floats your boat
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Lmaoing at all of the anons who didnt know the secret trick that speeds up catalyst progress on fafnir
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>>575959736
Just disable PvP all together and let me buy Iron Banner engrams.
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>>575963112
Companies are not allowed to outright lie but they are allowed to spin the truth. They don't mention marathon in the part about revenue because if they did that would be a lie as marathon hasn't generated any revenue.
Them stating they have managed to retain users is not a lie but its also not the whole truth.
If a thousand players play every single day then they've retained those users.
Bungie used to flub these numbers a lot back during destiny seasonal releases, they'd use the people who logged on once a week for the story as report that their WAU was strong, even though a majority of those players dropped off until next week
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>>575940697
When you get sick of capping the most points while your team are brainless huntards dying and losing. Just afk macro for 50 games. You will get ciphers and eventually the matchmaking puts you with normal human beings and you will win like 2 games easily until it puts you back with retards and sweats
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>>575963145
nope not a thing
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I'm pretty sure it's the fart when you activate the alternate firing mode deleting close adds
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>>575959736
>peepee vs poopoo
oh no! anyways...
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>>575964225
Yup its real >>575964408
Don't tell me you got all of your kills by just shooting at thrall all day right anon?
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Finally got enough Preadyth's Revenges to craft my own, what's the best roll for it if I plan to use it exclusively for boss DPS?
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Frost armor is terrible. I never feel like its doing anything.
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I played one game of fortress. Is it meant to be this bad?
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>>575968971
Iron banner was meant to be a bad gamemode in destiny 2 yes
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>>575968741
It's 50% DR at max stacks. It is a noticeably massive buff on ultimate/gm content. With woven mail and banner of war up, plus the right chest mods, you are practically immune to damage.
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Stasis as a whole should've been disabled in PvP, strand too while we're at it.
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>>575968971
>skillbased matchmaking
Yeah
>>575968741
You need 7 stacks for it to be GOOD, and preferably you still have something else with you
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Is Arbalest good for anything but shield breaking?
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Release Cryoclasm was balanced
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>>575957820
The difference is that D2 is no longer relevant for Sony. Sony outright killed it so Bungie would have no choice but to work on Marathon and they wouldn't have to talk with investors about it anymore, it is a finished product they're largely done with outside of hotfixes. Marathon is supposed to be the main product and service that is driving Bungie, and they refuse to talk about it's financial performance at all. They're just lying to investors by talking about it "retaining players" when that's an outright fabrication, it has less players than the game it is meant to replace. That's not a promising sign while they're proudly boasting about other live service titles making them money.
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>>575971280
Both of it's perks have to do with shield breaking...
But yeah, if an enemy is shielded in any way, arbalest will 1-tap that shield, get that round reloaded, and immediately do an extra 50% more damage to that target for 5.5s, which is how long it takes to dump the mag. If you use an armor set that focuses ammo generation, you can use it as a primary. Nothing kills shielded enemies faster, but that is all it's good for., since that's what it was made for.
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>>575971664
All 30k of the people left playing marathon, have been playing since launch. But that's not abnormal for any live service game. 90% of the people playing Helldivers2 each week, or *** ******* each week, have been playing since the first month.
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Can I cheat my way into a fuck ton of synth weave? Or just Cheat my way into unlocking every piece of gear for glamour?
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>>575974479
It really doesn't take that long to get them.
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>>575975017
It's one a week though right?
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>>575974479
You are limited on how many you can get per week. Bounties give you 1 and you get 1 bounty for each class per week up to 10 after you completed the ones you have available then you gotta wait for more. You can also buy the synthweave templates from the chronolog kiosk but it costs 500 and you can only get one every 2 weeks. So if you want to unlock everything I'll see you in 5 years.
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>>575970756
All abilities disabled, trials should be balanced to have 1 titan, hunter and warlock so you cant just nerf one class into the deadweight because then that deadweight is on your team as well.
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>>575978635
no supers, no abilities except grenades, no duplicate classes, final destination only.
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>>575955030
are you actually retarded
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>>575979514
No, I just see him rewriting history to fit his current politics. He'll do the same thing in 10 more years. They always do.
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The greatest mistake Bungie ever made was convincing themselves that they were a totally competitive PvP capable studio, removing one map because it has issues in all crucible playlists really highlights how it should have been nothing more than a mini game.
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I like Dawn Chorus, really, I think it's a really cool design idea but I still think something went wrong along the way
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>>575980237
Nice balls, bro.
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>>575980109
Halo 2+ were legit. Even 5 and Infinite's multplayer was good. The problem is taking aPVE game and trying to make it a high speed lo drag [MLG]420noscope game.
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got its so cool getting out-sniped at scout/sniper range by hand cannons with a million bonus to aim assist i love this godshit game so much please help
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No way any handcannon wins at actual scout range
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>>575980656
I mean the Halo games at least worked because they were simple, Destiny on the other hand is permanently held back because they tried to shoehorn PvP into a Borderlands/Phantasy Star clone to disastrous results because they want it to competitive when it's just goofy fun at best.
Also funny you bring up 5 and Infinite, because they are fun, but that wasn't even Bungie made. I don't know how many ex Bungie or even Destiny Devs work on Halo and 343 now.
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>>575979738
?
This isn't some new revelation, unless you're some kind of newfag. The entire game industry taking a swandive into the shallow pool of social justice has been at the forefront of online discourse since the early 2010's.
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>>575968302
fourth time / elemental honing
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>>575981884
>>575981510
Anon has to be either missing his shots, or thinks 50m is scout rifle range.
>he thinks scout rifles even have los in their range in half the maps
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>>575982867
Yeah, but I figure Halo 5+ just goes to show that it was a winning formula.
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>>575982962
It's a biased rewriting of history. Dude unironically said, "Thought police," like, dude, you design video game levels. Nobody gives a shit what you think. It's not that deep.
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>wow what a cool ability! I bet we'll get to use it some day!
I wish the warframe devs owned Destiny. They would've let us have cool overpowered shit.
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>>575984641
Overpowered is fucking boring.
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>>575983843
It really isn't though. People would post their personal and political opinions on social media, or otherwise make them known through apparel, merchandise, etc., then would get reprimanded or fired by left leaning HR departments. "Cancel culture" was coined because of this phenomenon. #metoo was a subset of leftist cancel culture, which saw which saw hundreds of high profile video game industry personnel, fired over what wound up being false, or embellished, allegations of misconduct. There were social and cultural incentives to claiming you were a victim of SA, and whenever anyone asked what happened, stories were created, which were then immediately looked at by HR departments, who decided to err on the side of caution, and fired anyone that a public allegation was made against. Again, all of this is common knowledge, was hotly debated at the time, and the fact you are disputing it either means you have ill-intentions, are too young to remember, or are dangerously ignorant.
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>>575976015
Yeah, I looked and it said all that. I don't want 1 synthweave a week. That's stupid as fuck
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Hunters are so gay.
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>>575981884
>>575983204
c'mon I can't be the only one getting 3-tapped by spare rations and igneous hammer
i guess all guns are just jade rabbit and slightly better jade rabbit
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>>575987210
>superblack
>marathon armor
Everytime
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>>575987210
>pov: you are about to get mercy ruled.
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What's the best way to gain super energy in PvP? Vault of glass weapons, bad juju or equipping 2 weapons from the pale heart +Kvhovstov?
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Missed opportunity to make the darkness look like the prometheans but with prism like bodies that absorb and refract light
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>>575990783
The prometheans were gay. Halo 4 would have sucked a lot less if they didn't bother making them.
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>>575987210
I always throw if anyone on my team is using the marathon armor.
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>>575990947
But they looked so cool
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>>575991115
We have pretty different definitions of cool.
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>>575990783
>missed opportunity to bring the worst part of Halo 4 (contender for the worst halo game) to make TFS even worse.
For once I'm glad bungie missed an opportunity.
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>>575987245
120's will 3-tap out to 70m. Jade Rabbit will 3 tap out to 200m. Hung jury has a faster ttk than all handcannons when out past 70m. Handcannon aim assist stops at around 70m. Stop fighting handcannons with scout rifles at 50m. Use an smg or sidearm when closer than 20m, use an assault rifle that isn't rapid-fire for 20m-80m, make sure it has high impact rounds. You now have better ttk over every handcannon in the engagement ranges you appear to be playing at.
>if you weren't playing close, you wouldn't be complaining about handcannon when using a scout
>>575987210
The scout used by that center hunter can roll with rampage and kill clip, it has the fasteat ttk in the game out past 40m.
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The only good looking dread unit were the grim
Everything else looks gay and retarded
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>>575991758
Correction, that hunter is using the pulse, but same diff. Transfiguration is what you want if you HAVE to use a scout.
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>>575991783
But what about psion with a hood, blue psion, green psion, tall blue psion, and tall green psion???
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>>575987210
The way they force exotic appearances is so stupid. It's not like knowing what exotic someone is using is actually going to make any difference whatsoever.
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>>575924008
>Ask what you want to know, I'm ready for shameless shilling
Tell me about the gameplay loop, the weapons, the enemy design. What cool things you can do in it.
And the bad.
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>>575992863
And most people who get pissed off and wonder what they are using usually take the time to inspect someone's gear
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>>575993162
nta but people have compared it to Destiny with wands.
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>>575992863
Somehow I have to wonder if overlaying an exotic with a different armor or worse yet a different one wouldn't cause issues. It's a different sandbox, there has got to be some spaghetti code involved.
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>>575992863
Being able to see at a glance that a Titan is using the Feedback Fence absolutely makes a difference.
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im at 505 power so why arent vendors dropping tier 5 gear yet
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>>575993910
Don't you still need to get your guardian rank up or be 520? I suffered through the levelling in EoF, so I could just be wrong.
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>>575995007
i was always told get to 500 to get tier 5 gear but there's nowhere in game where it tells you directly what you need to get it from vendors. which is really annoying because i've been able to farm for tier 5 gear since i was light 10
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>Chroma Rush with kinetic tremors in iron banner
>having the time of my fucking life
>people peaking corner and running away like little shits (hunters) blow up around corners
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They should do a Destiny Sims expansion so I can rape classic characters like Mara, Ada, and Hippy.
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>>575995236
Is kinetic tremors actually that good in pvp? I assumed it wasn't very good for whatever reason.
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>>575995393
I'm sure it's not that difficult to make a blue or blue haired crackwhore in the sims
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>>575995406
I'm using it with Stopping Power, its honestly surprising how hard you can fuck people up with it
If you broke someones shield and they manage to run away, Tremors will rape them
I dont know about actually being GOOD, but i got my best games of the last 2 days with it so far
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>>575993906
Doesn't make a difference when you back off from one but your retard hunter teammate melees them and kills you both
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To rape or not to rape
Thats the question isnt it?
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>>575999501
Unfortunately this time shakespeare there is no question. There is only a constant, and that constant is to rape.
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For the past six games I have gotten the same fucking nigger faggot Titan using Lion Rampant and Final Warning on the other team. At one point I saw him recover most of his health from nothing.
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>>575804658
Soon
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>>576002391
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why is Sony like this?
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>>576003841
they need to own the chuds
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>>576002391
>tfw this guy's only hope after like a decade is the Chinese
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God I hate figgers
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They're doing a final rerun of all active title pins, apparently.
Get them if you want.
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>>576007739
I feel this
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>>576007739
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*gulps*
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For me it's the 'cado scope
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any more
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Any more what?
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>>576012254
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>The va for assassin in marathon deleted a tweet during a slapstick argument with someone that said marathon was a success
How curious
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All right, /dg/. Now that Destiny has taken its final shape, where do you believe that it peaked?
I say Witch Queen, if only because that's one of the only candidate years that I was actually here for.
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>type "psychopomp"
>it gets censored
>cut up the word until the offending particle is isolated
>confusion
Does anyone know what a "pom" is or why Bungie doesn't want us to name it?
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>>576026167
My guess would be that technically 'pom' and 'porn' are fairly close visually
>>576024885
Gameplay right now, story and lore never
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>>576024885
Season of undying. I didn't play during year 2 so when I got back in y3 there was a shit ton of new content rather than what forsaken players experienced which was a super short campaign with a bizarre cliffhanger and a shit season with 1 good weapon in addition to a huge tractor cannon nerf.
I miss the firing line sniper rifle meta and classic izanagi's burden. It was either autoloading tranquility with anarchy or izanagi with autoloading full court love and death. I also miss doomfang in its apex form. You used to be able to get melee energy from shooting enemies with anti barrier weapons. And the melee kills for doomfang awarded much more energy than they do now. You could shit out bubbles like the modern guardian shits out orbs. And the content availability was nice.
Although they failed to bring the y1 content up to an acceptable standard, the sheer amount of things to do from y2 was enough to keep people around for months. If they just raised the difficulty of old content, there would have been no reason to delete any of it. That's what they had done for the y2 seasonal stuff. But they never bothered with the y1 adventures and campaigns. So it was a waste of space. Same shit happened when beyond light came out but arguably worse. All of the y2 and y3 raids and destination content was sunset even though you could still fucking earn it. So 70% of the game's content was pointless.
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>>576027603
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>>576024885
>gameplay
Opulence = now
>story
Shadowkeep story was alright but as soon as we started with PIRATES and other goofy shit the story died
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>>576026167
In Australia, "pom" or "pommy" is a nickname for British people. You'd really be reaching to call it a slur. It can be disparaging, but it can also be a term of endearment like how New Zealanders are called Kiwis.
This filter is somehow even more egregious than the Souls games, and of course these fucking niggers made it impossible to disable it completely because they think they have a moral duty to protect people from badspeak or whatever. I haven't seen anything like it.
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>>576028157
Can you say Kyle Rittenhouse in Destiny? You can't in EA games.
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>>576028289
Yep.
>You can't in EA games
I hate the fucking progressive ideologues who have captured the industry.
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>>576028361
Now lets test if reporting you does anything
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>>576028434
*covers my nametag with my hand*
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Plz buy marathon
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>>575995236
Based. Fuck hunters
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>>576034973
nah *rapes you*
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>>576034973
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Why hasn't the Vanguard started finding hive guardians? We have plenty of partnerless ghosts, some of which are almost certainly paired with some dead Hive or the other. Did Savathun somehow identify and brainwash all of the partnerless ghosts that were meant to be paired with Hive back in WQ?
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mfer asking for lore for a dead game as if it's ongoing
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>>576018327
She's kinda cute. Nice tat too.
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The heat of the pan cooks the egg
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>>575818061
>dont give players what they want
>keep shoving "experiments" at them
>players dont play
>"WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING OUR GAME?!"
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>>575993162
>1/5
I might have overdone it somewhat. Oh well
>gameplay loop
Drop into the map and get around to fight enemies and persevere, defeat bossess, collect loot and currencies, do both static and random events, manage to get out without dying or you'll lose everything you gathered so far, spend the spoils back in your hub on leveling up, new equipment and abilities, get your build going, prepare and drop in again, maybe even upping the challenge for even more - that's the most basic, superficial gist of it
Now, let's do an overview based on that description
>Drop into the map
There are 7 unique maps with static layout and assigned chief difficulty level. Don't get discouraged by the low number, the maps are non-linear and quite sprawling, with many nooks and crannies to explore, minor map-unique mechanics, well hidden secrets, are vertically and horizontally generous, and are quite diverse in both presentation and how they actually play. There’s no timer, you are completely free to explore and interact with everything the map has to offer, which also gradually opens as you interact with all of the game’s overarching systems. To add onto that, there are *almost* no invisible walls, so you can use your movement ...
>get around
... to sprint and dash and slide and jump and double-jump with crisp control and speed almost everywhere. All of the movement options can be improved by other mechanics of the game, be it aspects of speed, range, efficiency, offensive or defensive effects, dashing mid-air, using recoil of some weapons for extra movement, etc. - the only notorious mechanics from other games absent are bhopping and some kind of rocket/grenade jumping, presumably due to the general absence of explosives, which leads us to ...
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>>575993162
>>576046223
>2/5

>fight
You always choose your equipment prior the run, and it stays with you for its entirety. The way you unlock equipment is varied, but it’s mainly achieved by research, which ticks down automatically by going on runs. New research options unlock as you interact with the game’s scaling system, which I will describe shortly
There's about 30 ranged weapons divided into two categories of different ammo consumption, normal and special/demonic ammo, and general subcategories like shotgun, bolt-action, handgun, full-auto, etc. with static, unupgradable stats, but most importantly, 3 levels of unique, special powers, the so called Mysteria, that are unlocked by playing with said weapons and spending level-appropriate unlocking currency, and that really define how they actually play and perform - these powers are diverse in effect and frankly are quite ingenious and engaging all across the board, with only a handful of weapons being somewhat underwhelming. This, however, does not apply for the special/demonic weapons, for these are intended to be very limited in ammo and only be used in emergencies or for specific targets.
The same regarding the 3 unlockable Mysterium level system, gameplay, performance, variety and effects can be said about the many options in equipment and build creation, be it a ring of choice, a fetish, a relic, and especially spells, which are further divided into two categories of Light and Heavy spells, with 11 and 8 to choose from respectively.
A special mention goes to the Rosary, which is customised by choosing particular beads that are hidden around the maps and carried by bosses, and that provide yet an additional layer of player customisation with varied powers, stat boosts and effects, usually of the passive, but some very interactive and potent, built-defining kind.
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>>576046373
3/5
Spells, and some weapons, are also assigned one or more of the classic four elements, that provide different effects, i.e. water/ice freezes, fire increases damage taken, earth/decay gives a DoT, and air/shock makes affected enemies get part of the target damage. Elements can mix for increased effect, like setting frozen enemies on fire makes them explode. Both Heavy and Light spells work off of charge, which is replenished by kills of normal enemies or by damaging bossess
That charge system also applies to melee and 6 different melee weapons that also provide variety of utilities and different solutions how to dismember ...
>enemies
Enemy types chiefly follow Minor and Major enemy formula regarding their prevalence in spawns and encounters, with stats and abilities reflecting the power level. Again, variety follows, with all kinds of melee, ranged, spell-casting, support, aggresive, or defensive enemy types, with some being unique or map-specific – there’s well over 60 different enemy types and bosses, with majority of them unique in their ingame behaviour and associated difficulty and approach of defeating them. One thing that I need to mention and that I absolutely adore about enemies is special AI behaviour for certain enemy types – like Assassins attack almost exclusively from around the corners and actively try to get behind the player by running behind and around objects, or if enough Musketeers are present, they form a firing line and fire salvoes
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>>575820410
>halo is barely managing to hold above 10k on day 3 already
bungie should be taking notes. real success here.
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>>575993162
>>576046520
>4/5

>persevere
Now is a good time to mention the random, or roguelike/lite if you will, elements. There are always 7 pods of enemies spawned per map, that differ in location, difficulty and enemy types present. Each pod defeated unveils the ability to pick up run-specific random bonuses, the so called Arcana, with max three offered to choose from (with two revealed and with one picked for free; the third can be revealed and others can be picked for special, run-specific currency randomly found on the map, so 21 possible run-specific bonuses can potentially be picked) per each defeated pod, which generally falls into categories of enhanced loot, stats, abilities, spells, elements, and weapons. These pods are reshuffled every time you level up in both constitution and location, which servers the intended ability to conquer a map on repeat tries but a new experience and challenge once you level up. The pods aside, there’s almost constant stream of enemies spawning from the map exit portal, that first protect the portal and second hunt you down and disrupt whatever you’re trying to do. There are also traps and infernal mechanisms to spawn, map-specific or pod-independent special and event enemy spawns.
Then there are two special run-specific mechanics that further increase and randomise difficulty and enemy spawns by punishing mistakes and taking unnecessary risks, but that I will not delve deep into. They may or may not be interacted with at all, fully dependent on whether you’re good or catious enough, but you may intentionally activate them as well to get that adrenaline pumping. There’s also optional challenges that you activate prior a run with additional modifiers and extra rewards that may even yield new equipment, the classic
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>576046223
>There’s no timer, you are completely free to explore and interact with everything the map has to offer, which also gradually opens as you interact with all of the game’s overarching systems.
Well, I see they added 5 more maps since that early build I played. Did they do something with the calamity system? I remember they promised they would do something about it. Calamity was fucking aids. Every time you started a combat encounter or were undoing witch minefield traps, the game was incrementing a hidden counter/timer to get the witch to notice you, which, when full, would immediately start a Calamity - a sort of map event which you have to complete or run the fuck away into the evac portal because otherwise the Calamity would instakill you as its wipe timer runs out. Calamities ranged from manageable (kill a miniboss) to Utter Disaster in the Fuckup Town like that one calamity which raised a bunch of dead guys to fight you AND lowered your health to 1 until a Calamity is resolved, so basically you had to kill entire waves of adds without getting hit once, or you're dead.
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>>575822278
She should get addicted to my dick
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>>576046664
>whoops, that's quite a few more part, so 5/X

Now you may wonder what governs the scaling of the game’s difficulty. Enter the Gnosis system, which you interact with at your own volition, and that is completely independent of level-ups and ergo your stats. Each achieved Gnosis level, new and harder enemy types are able to enter the fray, new mechanics are added into the game, new research options open to get new equipment, extra Rosary slots for beads, new maps open as well as new areas in previous maps are now open to explore, and your witchfire gains are increased as well. It’s all about choosing your own tempo and your perceived challenge you can handle. Achieving higher Gnosis is permanent.
>bosses
To be honest, bosses really aren’t the highlight of Witchfire. Don’t get me wrong, they’re fun and all, but there’s only a handful of unique ones and a bunch of mini-bosses that are just buffed normal enemy type with a unique model – sometimes not even that
>collect loot and currencies
Loot and currency have both permanent and run-dependent iterations. Leveling your character’s several stats is managed by spending the main, very much soulslike currency, the titular witchfire, which you get by looting chests, doing events, but mainly by killing enemies. Then there’s valuables (which are run-exclusive) that are exchanged for gold (which is permanent) when successfully extracted, and these are only found by doing events, looting chests or killing bossess. Gold is used together with witchfire for trading and buying optional consumables that you can carry a limited amount into each run, and that you almost exclusively buy from a vendor for gold. The alternative use for gold is that you can use it for speeding up research.
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>>576046664
>>576046725
>>576046520
And I think they also promised to rework the leveling system, and I hope they did, because previously in the earliest builds the game used a sum of ALL your attributes to determine encounter difficulty and started spamming fucktons of shielded and more challenging enemies upon minor stat investment.
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>>576046878
>>576046858
>Now you may wonder what governs the scaling of the game’s difficulty. Enter the Gnosis system, which you interact with at your own volition, and that is completely independent of level-ups and ergo your stats. Each achieved Gnosis level, new and harder enemy types are able to enter the fray, new mechanics are added into the game, new research options open to get new equipment, extra Rosary slots for beads, new maps open as well as new areas in previous maps are now open to explore, and your witchfire gains are increased as well. It’s all about choosing your own tempo and your perceived challenge you can handle. Achieving higher Gnosis is permanent.
So they did rework it, thank fuck, that was really bad in early versions.
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>>576046858
>apparently 6/6 it's in the end

You may also collect crystalized witchfire that is not lost on death, which is, yeah, just like Souls games. The tertiary currency potentially found on the map is solely used to get more Arcana bonuses and is exclusively run-dependent – you start with none and none is transfered. Last, tiered currency are Mysteria Incantations used for unlocking equivalent Mysterium levels in equipment. Spending a Second Mysterium Incantation unlocks the second level of Mysterium on a piece of equipment and same with the Third Mysterium Incantation and the corresponding Third Mysterium, and higher level Incantation being much rarer.
You die in a run, you lose everything that you managed to gather; all of your witchfire and valuables. Those are the main random/roguelike/lite elements.
>do static and random events
Maps can have a selection of events, which randomise independently of level-ups – every run has a new set of random events. These are usually little minigames that serve as a break from just fighting, with some simple fun designs and sometimes quite substantial rewards. The static events on the other hand are map-specific and can be described as dungeon delving, usually with a timer, that play as a series of challenges, encounters and puzzles on the way through, and specific and unique mechanics associated with them.

At this point, I suddenly stopped and realised I’ve written 6 posts worth of text and that I have a debilitating autism. I’ll continue only if you’ll want to know more.
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>>576047006
>You die in a run, you lose everything that you managed to gather; all of your witchfire and valuables. Those are the main random/roguelike/lite elements.
I don't remember if you said it: dying drops all your witchfire in the latest place of death, like in Dark Souls, so you can go and grab it to at least save the witchfire you had on your corpse. Dying dagain while there is a corpse with some witchfire in it will overwrite the previous corpse and delete it with all witchfire you didn't reclaim.
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>>576046878
>>576046985
Yeah, that was a really shitty design to begin with. It's been fixed quite well I'd say
Same with World Corruption and Calamity events - they're no longer timer based, they increase as you fuck up or take every cursed object or profane gift you come around
>>576047132
Shite, I forgot that. Also if you'll go on a run into any other map or you extract early, it gets deleted as well
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>>576048693
Context?
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>>575993910
You need to be at power 520 for vendors to give tier 5 armor. Weapons will only be tier 4 max from vendors even at max power.
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>>575990764
Dynamo helmet mods help too if you have equipped a class ability with a short cooldown.
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>>575990764
guns with a high ratio of bullets to kills
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>>576039120
You forget the fact that ghosts need to find the right partner and cant freely choose dead bodies. They have to be "chosen" in order to be revived
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>>576024885
Season of the Dawn. The game never captured the same feeling after that season
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dead thing, dead thread
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>the tarkov ripoff's second season launch day still had lower numbers than d2
is the company just dead as this point? lmao, holy fuck
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>>576065308
Silence, worm! I'll have you know that Marathon has Star Wars potential. Something your feeble mind could never comprehend, but maybe some day you will. And on that day you will tremble and fall upon your knees in apology. And we will be too busy having a blast to notice.
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>>576065308
Its pretty funny how little Sony had to say about Marathon in the recent earnings call. They didn't even promise future support like they did last time lmao.
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>>576066304
>Sony's words mean absolutely nothing
>...oh wow wow WAIT! they didn't promise support this time. kek.
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>>576065308
>>576066304
Game is shit. They did not even bother making survival sponsored Outpost or Cryo Archive. Just a shitty event for Cryo that... allows you to learn the map/mechanics and not even loot anything of value (and nothing of value spawns). Sure, you can buy some unqiue Cryo-only guns with the event currency or gold keycard templates, but... its not that. They really fucked up, because they just simply refuse to give players atleast something worthwhile. And reasons for cutting out survival sponsored are "muh economy" and "muh splitting playerbase". Retards. I am glad i have never played or got invested into Destiny 2, and just got burned on Marathon. Fuck GAAS shit, i had enough of fallout 76 and Path of Exile.
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>>576068000
When did I say they meant nothing?
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>>576066304
>Build a giant playerbase that enjoys solid campaign and competitive FPS gameplay with an extremely successful franchise
>Create a second super successful franchise that builds on that exact thing but adds RPG-like character building and loot chasing
>Relaunch a super old franchise but it's an extraction shooter that's also a hero shooter without real PVE at launch and obviously loot is meaningless since you drop it on death
>expect your other playerbases to engage with this
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crazy that helldivers 2 is bringing in more revenue in its second year than marathon and destiny combined
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>>576069229
Bungie spent a lot of time and money making sure that only insane retards will give them money at this point.
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>>576069229
didn't they just announce the new warhammer capeshit warbond doebeit
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>>576070079
Can you speak like a normal human being you weird little fuck?
Yes though, they just announced a 40k warbond.
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>>576069229
Even if they are making more money they are slowly becoming bungie with their practices and the community everyday is slowly getting as retarded as destinys community so im dropping the game before I fall for the same shit again
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>>576070235
The HD2 has BEEN as retarded. From the start it's been nonstop bitching and moaning about how dogshit they are at the game until Arrowhead has capitulated and because they capitulated, the playerbase is literally never fucking happy. They just whine and seethe and bitch and moan about every little thing. Not that Arrowhead is blameless, but the community is utterly fucking insufferable.
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>>576070534
Yeah I agree that its from the start
As soon as people started defending "grunt" simulator and "just run away" that i knew the community was retarded. All it took was a couple seconds of dev gameplay to see they get absolutely filtered by level 7 difficulty is all I needed to know that the devs dont care about the game their making and its destiny all over again where they are designing it around singular metas and difficulty around content creators
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all i know about helldivers is that it got a halo crossover and that reddit doxxed and got some guy fired over him asking the devs to stream the game on the highest difficulty and give their thoughts on the games balance.
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Oh yeah I remember now they had their own joeverload moment
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>>576071252
how does someone get fired for that
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>>576070901
>As soon as people started defending "grunt" simulator and "just run away" that i knew the community was retarded.
Nah, see, you're already wrong from the start. The game is SHIT now because it's braindead fucking easy because whiny little niggers NEEDED to play the game at the highest difficulty at all times. The community would literally just refuse to git fucking gud. I couldn't play more than a single mission without getting bored because every stupid little cocksucker can run around and complete Super Helldive solo. Every time any challenge is introduced the playerbase shits their pants. The game does not require teamwork, coordination, or any amount of thought. You run the same stupid no effort overpowered bullshit and steamroll every mission.
It baffles me how modern players will cum and piss and scream about pve games having any challenge nowadays.
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>>576071408
when you have a dozen epic chungus redditors calling you and telling your employee is a pedophile, you're probably gonna fire him to make the calls stop.
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>>576071449
The challenge was
>hurdur super elite enemy that require 1 stratagem or 2 shots from anti heavy weapon to kill is now spammed all over the place
And it was fucking retarded. The cyberstan shit was literally proof that shit is practically impossible to play if those niggas will not stop launching missiles and 1 shot lasers at you. So most of the time your gonna bring the the good stratagam that completes the game for you and extract easily because of it. Variety in swarms was great because oh shit im getting denied by a bile titan and flanked by stalkers is actually good design but when you start spamming war striders and factory striders that means you have to bring the one good stratagam that 1 shots them otherwise you get filtered and feed your revives. The game design you want is inherently bad and its what actually killed the game
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>>576024885
The Taken King.
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We wuz taken and shiet
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i have taken
taken a shit
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GO THE FUCK AWAY LODI YOU ANNOYING FAGGOT
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Why isn't it a Marathon emblem?
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>>576071976
Nah, the highest difficulty should be bullshit. Like other anon said, the game is too easy now. No matter which strain of bugs, which robo-faction, or illuminate force, you can solo it with ease. Just bring the basic turret, another turret or mines, 500kg/orbital laser/support weapon of choice, and whichever backpack you want. Coyote/lib. pen./pacifier/blitzer/crossbow + grenade pistol/senator depending on wether you need to close holes or two tap bot heavies.
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>>576078325
Destiny is still Bungies main game
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oh no no no
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>>576078680
He got raped.
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>>576078325
>Yeah, this game is no longer supported and we sold you all out but please PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE US MONEY, WE NEED TAX WRITE-OFFS
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>>576078680
Maragods...
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>>576068178
The irony is that I feel like the more subdued PVE-only Cryo shows how ungodly flawed the entire thing is and barely worthy of any sort of big time gated momentous end game. The bits and pieces of insight start to make more and more sense when Bungie clearly tagged in dickheads like Skarrow for what essentially seems like consulting and pretty much signing off on the design that isn't exactly the most obtuse puzzler shit but it feeds into this hardcore fantasy that doesn't translate into reasonable gameplay. I understand the desire to contrast with a close quarter map and a extra hostile environment, but it sucks fuck when the characters are arena hero shooter supermen that can bounce around and have more bombastic action as it erodes from the usual pacing of an extraction game. It's not a test of skill clubbing somebody in a 10ft by 10ft box and every little corridor is this prime bait area to camp. It's exactly the same problems a lot of zone trials maps had where everybody would just cover doorways and cubbies until somebody decided to fuck up first, it's just scumbag undeserved play.
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>>576066304
I see you picked up on how the copium of "no you guys, these are actual good numbers for an experimental extraction" type language. That's the new one that I see, "well no you dummies, isn't it obvious, Bungie has more leeway with Marathon because this is a weird sci fi themed game and any sort of grounded shooter will naturally have more people playing it because people like milsim"
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>>575945142
I know people will cringe, but it literally is people trying to fill what is essentially the god/spiritual hole with almost fanaticism for their views and politics. It's thinking that if I prostrate myself with "the right views" hard enough on full display to show people I'm "one of the good ones"(whatever that even means and more importantly in who's eyes?) that will absolve me from my whitey sins and we can end all the hatred and injustices because the longer I talk about this stuff and sins of the father stuff it starts to sound like I'm about to start measuring skulls and go so woke that I'm a race scientist. I'm not saying people need Jesus but I do think there has been so many lines blurred because of people's less religiosity, volunteerism+community and most definitely being so disconnected from other people and out of touch, that it just has them way too fucking drunk on their own supply of bullshit and trying to look for all these virtues at every single corner.

Perfect example is how with a lot of inclusion things is the stuff the completely nukes any semblance of class and full socioeconomic discussion and that's how you have somebody who literally had slaves I'm sorry servants,bodyguards and tutors, in Lagos on the board of trillion dollar company talking about how people need to check their privilege. I hate to sound so cynical and it's obviously not like there aren't some legitimate points to be made, but a lot of these people rise to power and play people for fucking chumps all the damn time in such a shameless and ruthless manner. There's always that snark "give me confidence of mediocre white guys", fuck that let me be some overeducated brown person with neurosurgeon parents tricking my boss thinking I was sleeping on burning garbage in my home country before collecting a few special awards for my achievements.
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>play a different looter shooter
>every single gun is just a stat stick
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>Fang of Ir Yut is strand now
For what purpose?
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>>576089163
Because turning a bunch of existing guns into strand was easier than making new strand weapons.
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>>576086306
the irony is that the same brown people and third worlders that these DEI and woke cucks love to celebrate and put on a pedestal are some of the most unwoke and socially conservative people that exist. these third world browns are incredibly corrupt and engage in rampant nepotism, along with incredibly restrictive social mores (especially around women and minorities), but somehow it's white people who are holding them back? i don't understand it.
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Gather them. I will rape them all
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>>576078680
I was watching Aztecross reaction to this and this turdo guy is retarded.
>Why are Destiny people so mad at Marathon, Marathon didn't kill Destiny. Marathon not doing well meant Bubgie had to make the hard choice of shutting down Destiny. It was never meant to be the main game.
Okay despite Marathon taking resources away from Destiny and shitting up development, they decided to kill Destiny before Marathon even released and turned out to be a flop. Marathon was absolutely meant to replace Destiny after Bungie mishandled their budget for their studio and Destiny.
>Y'all are being weird haters lol so embarrassing
Yes because Bungie took a giant shit on its fans with no accountability.
>Destiny could not go on forever, it needed to be like Call of Duty
Aztec was right, Warframe is still going, they did not need 700 devs to make content for their game and go bankrupt but the retard blames Destiny as if it isnt Bungie the one mishandling development of Destiny.
This retard deserves any hate he gets.
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Can you guys hand me some GOOD hunter pve builds? -50 capable would be sweet
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>>576092980
>2hu
Hunters not beating the trans allegations
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>trying to do Competitive to get the dumb armor set
>still in the 7 qualifier matches or whatever
>time out several times waiting 5+ minutes in the queue for a match to fill
damn this shit is genuinely dead huh
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>>576092980
youtube.com/macticsg1/search?query=hunter
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>>576046223
>>576046373
>>576046520
>>576046664
>>576046858
>>576047006
I can kinda see where the Destiny with wands comparison came from although the game primarily always reminded me of Painkiller. Which is only logical considering who made it.
Anyway thanks for the writeup, I suppose I could ask for some details about banger weapons for instance. Is the wheelgun any good?
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>>576097268
works on my machine
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>>576092607
Marathon was also just a seasonal activity/alternate gambit mode that was in development back in 20'. Only after the Sony buyout, when they found out marathon was nothing more than a title, did they take the work being done on D2, and made it into an entire game.
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>>576097268
What region/system?
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>>576098691
EU PC, been doing this the whole day
>>576098303
I genuinely believe the game either can't find people to match me against or the placement queue is fucked
I had 2 matches the whole day and they were complete stomps (for us), went on a 27 streak in one of them
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>>576086306
Heres a fun neuro fact, 15-35% of the population have a reaction in the brain that activates during "religious" experiences. The actual faith is secondary but the pressure it exerts almost always applies.
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>>576078567
But then all you have to do is just use that shit and it kills the other stratagams/weapons because they are useless to use when everything is a walking tank
High difficulty show have high frequency but not every unit should be a fucking war strider
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>>576100950
It used to be like that on the first patch, then they bugged the spawn rates of heavy enemies and they forgot so instead of fixing that they had to rebalance the whole game.
Swedes are retarded.
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>/h/dg/ - HellDestiny General
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Destiny is hell
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>>576071976
>hurdur super elite enemy that require 1 stratagem or 2 shots from anti heavy weapon to kill is now spammed all over the place
Ah yes, the days of 8 factory striders on a single defense map but they couldnt fit so they clipped into each other and crashed.
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>/dg/ - Doomgod General
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>Keep him aliiiiive...buuuut have your funnnn...you have earnnnned it...
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>>576098096
>I suppose I could ask for some details about banger weapons for instance
>Is the wheelgun any good
All the wheel gats are really solid, and, as a matter of fact, if you go full-on Revolver Ocelot and equip all the -Eater revolvers, you get a unique Trinity buff that further enhances the Mysteria of the revolvers and their weapon switch speed
>although the game primarily always reminded me of Painkiller
I'd say it's quite obvious they're Painkiller devs from that revolver fact alone. And it's especially true since one of the best damn weapons in the entire game is, once again, a stake gun - Striga. Mastering the firing arc and pinning enemies to a wall is always fun, and it performs exceptionally well
Which leads me to my second favourite, the nail gun Martyr. You shoot a bunch of nails and then rip them flying again repeatedly from place to place, target to target, enemy to enemy, while they damage everything while in flight and deliver combined damage to the magnetised target. Some of the most fun I've had with any weapon in any FPS
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>>576099736
That or your network is fucked up. I have no issues finding competitive matches in East US.
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>>576105434
Nah, i find matches basically immediately for anything else, IB Crucible Gambit etc
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>>576105749
No idea what to tell ya then. I did my placement matches recently myself and never had a queue time above 5 minutes.
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>destiny players when they have to count to 6 instead of taking 20 years to kill a yellow bar
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VoG is just too complex
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How do I check a weapons ammo capacity stat?
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>Another week of no twilight garrison
sigh
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>>576109538
Bro, your Praxic Vestment?
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The complication of Destiny raids is just learning where things are and what they're called. It's just language skills. There's no actual combat difficulty or challenge. You're just getting people to synchronize their silly dance moves in a randomized order.
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>>576109538
Titan isnt the aerial class chud
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>>576109913
Yup and its fun
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Jokes aside, where does low-man Root actually stand in terms of difficulty if you compare it to dungeons? Does it beat out SD and VH for top 1 or is it still only top 3?
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The average destiny player can barely stand on a plate let alone pass a ball
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>>576112572
It seems like it exists on 1 (one) special weapon (path of least resistance) so a little hard to compare
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>the encounter that filtered millions
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>mfw when guardians have balls
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>>576112131
Can't you literally solo the fucking Raid?
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>>576113192
SAY HELLO TO MY BALLS
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>>576113192
Why didnt they bring him back?
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>>576113435
It's possible in that some have done it and none of the encounters require another person to relay information, it's not completely trivial
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>>576112725
Your post just reminded me that the shooting range exists. Anyways an A499 Refurbished's non critical does 490 damage does 588, a 20% damage increase.
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>>576113775
Not sure that's worth it unless you're shooting at something that's doesn't have a crit spot?
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>>576112131
Its pretty much harder than all of the dungeons due to you being on tight timers and having to do all the mechanics yourself. Without using movement exploits like wellskating or shatterskating you will really struggle. The time limits are probably the biggest thing since dungeons don't really do wipe timers.
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>>576109538
I could forgive that if they didn't absolutely rape Titan skating. Fuck anyone who said skating was antithetical to Titan's class identity when the complete opposite is true.
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How long will the comeback?
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>>576115038
wrong general
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>>576115087
u sure?
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>>576098859
Hello SAAR
Blessings of Vishnu upon you!
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>>576114746
People don't understand that mobility is most important for tanks/intiators
It's why blink dagger is first item for such characters in Dota
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>>576114052
Yeah but then that begs the question of why shoot at something with a refurbished if it doesn't have a crit spot.
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>>576115462
>assfaggots retard thinks his opinion matters
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>>576113916
>reduced to a yellow bar taken incendiary
Grim
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>>576115889
Using that one kinetic ammo artifact mod at close range for reasons I guess
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>>576118072
>Using that one kinetic ammo artifact mod at close range
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>>576119298
Yeah but imagine a rotation
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>>576119698
>imagine a rotation
No
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imagine a rape
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Not like it was any good but didn't they give solar warlock d1 titan's empyrean bellicose as well as twilight? And then told titans that these things were more of the warlock's identity than theirs?
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How much damage am I missing if I don't use the weapon surge mods?
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>>576122952
Alot
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>>575871264
slight tweak from a couple weeks ago, but I really think it comes together now
also I have found a love for turrets and threadlings
the less I actually have to aim, the better
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How long does salvation's edge take, usually?
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>>576125086
2 hours depending on your teacher
Either you breeze after a couple of attempts or get stuck at herald and third encounter and eventually wipe 10 times in verity and 2-3 pull witness
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why are marathon players accusing us of raping them on their general?
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>>576127239
persecution complex
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>>576127239
They are the raped
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The profanity filter is going haywire. I guess they were trying to expand it one last time.
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>>576130840
When did they force this fucking garbage on everyone? It was totally optional the last time I played.
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I want to learn a bit about damage rotations but I'm not a hunter so I'd also like to learn about all the auto loading effects.
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"""Rotations""" are fucking lame. I'm not playing a tab target mmo you're a fucking dork if you buy into that shit in destiny.
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>>576130840
What did you say exactly?
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>>576131680
Well unfortunately I'm tired of getting damage mogged by almost everyone else in the fireteam.
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To this day I still don't know what the Veil is
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>Rotations
Just hold right click on 1KV, T-crash and use one loadout for the entire encounter. Also it's fucking funny seeing huntards clamouring onto hierarchy of needs as dps king.Who actually gives a fuck when truth, 1KV, infinite ignition warlocks, t-crash falling star exists.
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>>576132152
I take out my big golden gun, click on boss, then spam 1k voices. ezpz.
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>>576132061
The Winnower's avatar on reality in the same way the Traveler is the Gardener's if I'm not wrong.
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All Marathon needs is a Recon rework and the gameplay is in a good spot. Get ready to study the comeback
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>>576132361
Honestly whatever it is was so poorly communicated I stopped caring. I was just unlocking Strand on my Warlock and faced with the thing again.
Now to play around with Threadlings
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>>576133112
Once that pesky iran war is over too destinycels will be KNEELING to us MARAGODS as our player count rises to 100k and beyond.
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Bungie should really sell old pre-order bonuses. There's a lot of stuff I guarantee people would pay for and there's no point in maintaining the ol' YOU HAD TO BE THERE fomo dogshit at this point.
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>>576133112
>3 maps
>progress reset at the end of each season despite the original game of the genre and its devs pivoting to make loot and gear evergreen
>the only ((("endgame"))) activity is a limited time event and currently features a spawn system worse than anything the entirety of the CoD and Counter Strike franchises have produced, to date.
>terrible gun balance that invalidates all but a handful of the already low amount of weapons available, despite being an "extraction" shooter meant to incentivize being a deplorable loot goblin
>current design of maps, mixed with gameplay elements/design leads to an environment where the player is at odds with the pve mobs in a way that incentivizes avoiding everything but a few key areas in/on any given map
>did i mention it only has 3 maps? 3 maps btw
>game, and devs for that matter, cant decide what it wants people to do and constantly fucks over people in either solo, crew fill, or trios que depending on how everyone at the office feels for that season/patch cycle
>a whole cacophony of general fuck ups and issues sprinkled around plagueing this already plagued patient
>"rEcOn NeEd ChAnGe, MaKe GaMe BeTtEr, MoRe RuNnEr PlAy¡¡¡"

truly, the most intelligent slopathon player
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>>576131979
The word "something" is censored. Seriously.
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So do secret chests just not drop weapons in raids since MoT? I’ve done the vog chests almost every week and haven’t gotten a single weapon, and before you ask I stopped playing shortly after final shape so I don’t have any finished red borders for the raid
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>>576012254
Was it really necessary to include his penis in the scope?
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>>576139478
yes
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>>575871264
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Quicksilver Storm is kind of dookie
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>>576091360
The big capital doesn't want you to notice that 1% holds the remaining 99% by their balls. They would instead gladly foster even more discontent by flooding the space with cheap labor from abroad and blaming the regular Joe Schmoe for the sins of the past he never committed.
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>>576144876
they gutted it after lightfall was over
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What they did to Ward of Dawn can not be reasonably described as anything other than intentional sabotage. Like who the fuck ever complained that it was too small? It was already awkward to position it somewhere that wouldn't be in the way while being easy to duck in and out of to refresh Weapons of Light, but I guess it doesn't really matter since there's no reason to use it as long as there's a Warlock running Well on your team, and you can bet there will be if they have a single clue.
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>two armor drops from IB
>both different architypes
>both have heath stat random stat
BUNGIE YOU FUCKS YOU CODED HEALTH TO DROP MORE I KNOW YOU DID
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>>576147243
Whaaaatttt? Nooooo... Bungie would never
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>>576147243
Bungie is just thinking of you and wants you to be healthy



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