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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9514 - Bean Edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #16 - Between 2 Hedgehogs
https://youtu.be/-UDOIdn2lHs [Open]
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Open]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>576147629
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The term "modernfag" makes no sense because modern Sonic content has close to no connective tissue due to how inconsistent it is
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>>576214943
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Douge
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>>576215264
The inconsistency IS the connective tissue, Modernfags are just able to conceive the connections in it (i.e the Mural theory).
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>>576215387
Based ship. Better than Shadria
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Sonic games should feel like Crash Bandicoot but faster
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>>576215656
What's wrong with Shadria? It's actually canon, unlike Douge.
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cnc
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>>576213984
>>576214385
Rivals also places Silver as Sonic like with how he acts like 90’s American Sonic and fights the future counterpart of Eggman.
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<3
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>>576215774
>It's actually canon, unlike Douge.
Fuck off
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>>576215704
Those games fucking suck.
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Sonurj
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>>576215873
Why? If you're worried about the age gap it's literally the same one Sonic has with Amy. Only they removed the ages.
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>>576214943
AM2, what do we think about them?
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>>576216202
They need to just give Sonic team the full rights to use Bean, Bark, and Honey. It's not like they are able to do anything meaningful with them
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>>576216202
I liked Virtua Cop
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sonurge sex
shadally sex
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>it begins
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sonknux sex
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Sometimes I wonder if there are people who read Sonic comics but don't bother with other comics because it'd be "too confusing" yet they have no problem whatsoever navigating IDW and Archie's reading orders and the latter's continuity reboot
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>>576216628
Why did this make people so mad?
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>>576215623
The are already murals of Sonic in Death Chamber
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>>576216594
Rip Rouge and Amy.
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Bun!
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>>576215704
>linear corridors and chase sequences with random side missions
we already have adventure and boost
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>>576215873
Seethe harder ianfag
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UUUUUUUUU
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asking again
i need your help anons
i like to collect art and images. and lost my old collection especially of c-tier chars. please provide me with any type of good solo image, art, render, etc. of these characters if you have it:

>elise, molly, barry, tiara, fang, starline
>whisper, tangle, wave, marine, scourge
>zeti (zavok, zeena, zazz, etc), mephiles, charmy, gadget
>cosmo, surge, tikal, jet, big, mina, omega, trip
>fiona, lanolin, sticks, metal, sally, nicole, vanilla
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>>576216769
That's me
I almost exclusively read Sonic. I've tried getting into Marvel in the past but They're just a huge time sink. Sonic comics, at most have to follow 2 on going books. The DC crossover has gotten me to dip my toe in the DC water at lest. For me Comics have always just been about Sonic.
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Sonic
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Naked Blobians
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>>576217706
Wrong shade of blue
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>>576217324
mf be sounding like ayu from kanon with that uuu~ shit
https://youtu.be/TT2GRpwwS8M
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>>576217030
I NEED MORE BUNNIEPOSTING
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>>576215873
Lmao dougeshitters
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>>576217324
yoUUUUUUUsUUUUUUUck
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>>576215873
why are shadouge fags so aggro
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>>576216769
I only read individual DC comic stories rather than keeping up with the continuity.
I dont read comics often in general Manga is just better.
I do own all volumes of Scott pilgrim though.
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This is him being cute, not evan bullshit
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Silver
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>>576212738
People you describe 2000s Sonic as shonen are misremembering the flash animation shit they watched online for actual Sonic shit.
Sonic has never actually been a battleshonen. Its been an action adventure series with anime, jrpg and manga themeshit in it. Then Shadow came along and there was more overtime action movie stuff as well.

https://youtu.be/kbXIOHFAOOc
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>>576218267
What Evan needs to understand is that Silver doesn't need to be UWU and le vulnerable in order to look cute
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Why do Shadriafags love incest and refuse to accept that nobody takes their stupid ship canon?
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>>576217324
fat
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>>576217934
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Silver is trapped as spin-off fodder
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>>576218267
Shadow and Rouge's son looks happy
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>>576218267
His forehead needs to be lower
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>>576218449
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>>576218596
Dougefag...
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>>576218452
Nobody takes them seriously anyway
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>>576218452
This but with sonamyfags
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Shadow
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>>576218452
>human and hedgehog
>incest
Gerald has some explaining to do.
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>>576218697
https://youtu.be/4SQCycbkUP8?si=YNmzTHebX7E1XIp4
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/nb8d3cFI0yw
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>>576218408
Mix of anime and action movie is good, 06 is what you get when it's just anime
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>>576218792
It was 50 years ago.....25 years ago. It was a different time.
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>>576217934
A post or two a day is the most I can do.
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>Sonamy
>Sonurge
>Shadouge
>Shadaira
interesting how none of these ships were posted at all yesterday but are now all of a sudden are being argued in the thread all at once
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>>576218659
Take a look at picrel. Silver looks cute but in a way that's not out of character. he's not being UWU and he's not showing doubt or fear
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>>576218792
>Incest
>Beasteality
>Statutory Rape

GUN was right.
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Sonic the Hedgehog: The Spirits Within
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>>576218864
06 wasnt really "anime" so much as "jrpg". Apparently the presentation was inspired by shit like the batman and spiderman movies according to Naka. But I think the game itself just looks alot more like its trying to be likr Final Fantasy 8 ,9 and 10.
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>>576218659
>Lanolin moments before getting before

Faces of grief
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>>576218659
>Farts in face
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>>576219142
>before getting before
Dumb sheep poster
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>>576215797
yea, i said he was conceived as opposite shadow( light sonic)so theres thematical connections present with shadow but people get too caught up in his physical looks with chest fur + connect silvaze to shadria too much when both of them are a play on sonamy.
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>>576218808
>TJ Davis likes Sonamy too and made an AMV of it with one of her songs
Sonamy haters keep on losing
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>>576219035
>beastiality
Anon. It's bestiality you retard.
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>>576218267
This is him being Silver
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>>576218267
cute femboi
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>>576219231
Wtf I swear this shit got auto corrected either way it doesn't change the fact that she's a loser like (you)
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>>576218267
Silver has Boyish type of cute, Evan and most woman make that as baby type of cute, which is insane to do in canon material.
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>>576219079
SSS kino
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>>576218989
In general the comic artists seemed to have struggled to learn this. The subtlety of maintaining a character's dignitity and image while conveying the intended emotion rather than relying on over the top meme faces to tell the viewer how to feel based on how they personally feel has been an issue.
But the latest comic does suggest they are starting to get it.
Sonic's expressions at the Amy fake are more authentically Sonic while still conveying emotion.
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>>576218985
>WoodyKekshitter
Go back to south america
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Silver is "Light Sonic", but what that means in-relation to Sonic hasn't been handled that well in the series
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>>576219751
He likes to fight him, but never as a rival, just for fun
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>>576218808
>si=YNmzTHebX7E1XIp4
Delete these extensions
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>Shitverfags getting uppity
Zavokfag has been gone too long. Without their natural predator, shitverfags ate getting too comfortable.
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>>576219305
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>>576219521
If they really are starting to get it, then I hope they continue this
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If you had Evan Uwubabbying your favorite character and then defending herself you would be uppity too
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>>576219751
He isn't. He's Light Shadow.
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>dork the shit is boobier fat the rat who is actually nigger rick the imp
shut the fuck up
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>>576218989
Because they want Silver to look meek and childish, not simply looking pleased or peaceful.
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>>576219971
We're at their party as well shitazefag
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>>576219142
>
Once upona time, there was asheep. She went out looking forsomethingshe had lost, but she didn't know where to go. She had been running in circles over and over. She walked for days and days, and more days. Until.. one of these days, a very special day, She found awell. She was tired. So, so tired. All she wanted was to find the way backhome. She tossed a coin into the well, she wished with all her strength. And then, She found arabbit. The rabbit told her he could show her the way home.A new home.A much better home. One free ofpain. Andhurt. Andsorrow. Andshame. But getting there was no easy task. The sheep must understand.BEAUTY IS PAIN.
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>>576219125
Ever since Sonic Adventure they have been trying to make Sonic more Final Fantasy and JRPG-like with more story and character focus to appeal to the Japanese audience, 06 is just the most obvious attempt
There are people who wonder why Sonic kept going in this way more story and character focused direction, because Sonic Adventure got the most sales and positive reception in Japan while the Classic games had way lower
It wasn't done for the western side of the fanbase since they already liked Sonic, it was done to get the Japanese side into Sonic
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me think character sperg need rape from gorilla twice him size
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>>576220298
Silver already looks cute due to his small body proportions (that most of the other characters have) and chest fluff. All you have to do to make him look cuter is to give him a pleased/hopeful smile. There's no need to turn him into an UWU baby
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>>576220509
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>>576220093
people discussed it, silver is another sonic and mephiles is another shadow

the scene with amy convincing him is more similar to the sa1 gamma and sonic one in how it is framed, and shadria and silvaze are both a play on sonamy rather than plays of each other.
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What is it about douge that makes it such a chad ship
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no my favorite character would never do that thing they did in the comic books
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>>576220916
>shadria and silvaze
>silvaze
You're just a shipper.
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>>576220905
I have a soft spot for the boom comics, very fun and cute.
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>>576220090
If what I liked was being turned to shit I would do something about it, not just cry continuously in a corner. Krack was right
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>>576218452
If that were true you wouldn't seethe so hard over it, it threatens you specifically because people take their ship as canon
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>>576220443
That's not truly accurate. Sonic went dormant as an IP in the west prior to Adventure anyway and more dedicated fans of Sonic did like the world, story and characters. (Though not necesarily all the same versions of those)
Whatsmore is games like Zelda and FF were popular internationally anyway.
Games like SA2, Heroes, the advance games and Shadow dont really come off as trying to be JRPG esque really.
Like I said, they are more just very japanesey takes on western action movie tropes. (Starfox was similar in some respects)

I think 06 was less "trying to appeal to the Japanese" and more "the devs wanted to make a game like FF and incorporated some of that into 06.
Silver himself started as an entirely different game called Fifth Phantom Saga which has a similar FF like aesthetic.

One of the benefits of Shadow becoming popular was that he could explore different tones and concepts from conventional Sonoc fair. So I imagine that was the goal with 06 and Silver.

The realism meme was in general primarily a thing done to appeal to western audiences. Even FF itself did it for that reason.
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>>576220426
Lanolin doesn't deserve this fate
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>>576218452
rouge was described like shadow's mom. you love incest.
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>>576220916
>people discussed it, silver is another sonic and mephiles is another shadow

No anon. Mephiles is Shadow's Shadow. Not another Shadow. He id another Black Doom.
Silver is another Shadow. He gets compared to Sonic...like Shadow did.
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>>576220443
So japanese fans ruined Sonic?
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>>576221081
>What is it about douge that makes it such a bad ship
If your ship is reliant on attacking other ships and trying to piggybag off of parallelsfrom ships with substance, it's probably bad.
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>>576221350
no
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>>576221119
i said this because the anon i and others were arguing with compared shadow and silver on the basis of being sad over their ''waifu'' leaving.

fixating on people pointing out obviously teased ships in story analysis is moreso a sign of fixating on shipping than the one pointing it out.
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>>576221350
Sonic Team being incompetent ruined Sonic
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Gay and lesbian solidarity
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>>576221350
No, ST's desire for Sonic to be more than just a platformer "ruined" Sonic.
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I command thee
Be mad
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>>576218449
>>576218989
>>576219521
>>576220298
It's because Silver is her comfort character, that's why it's hard for her to write Silver in character cause she already made up who Silver is in her head
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>>576221532
>implying other shipfags don't ask for it by shitting on shadouge unprompted
rules for thee but not 4 me
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>>576221226
Only because it's out of character for her to be this much of a goofy bitch she wouldn't let pic related trick her like that
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shadouge? not canon
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>>576221850
>she wouldn't let pic related trick her like that

Anon...
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Rouge?
Garbage westshit character
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>>576221350
No, weatern fans ruined gaming.
FF became actionslop with le realism.
Sonic became actionslop with le realism.
And then westoids blamed Dem stupid Japanese and their "nippon pride" because they gave them what they literally asked for.
Shadow having guns? Fans asked for it.
In fact, thry wanted Sonic to have it and the devs had the sense to make Gamma instead and then pawn it off to Shadow when fans insisted it had to be using actual firearms.

The boomer critic computer nerds where just incredibly out of touch with what average audiences actually wanted.
I remember back then people shat on Heroes of all games for being "too light hearted and kiddy" despite having hard rock, explosions and fighting mecha dragon as the final boss.
It was just the eay the environment was.
Everyone either stole and drove vehicles, got a tribal tattoo or shot guns, or some combo of the three.
Classicfags should be thanking Shadow for taking the hit to protect Sonic's image if anything.
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>>576221850
she did improve her art but idk if she would improve her writing.
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Today I will rape Lanolin
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>>576219971
Post Zavok porn.
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>FNAF shit
More proof Sonic has lost any flavor it had in appealing to younger generations
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>>576221747
Sonic wasnt made as a "platformer". Platformer is a gaining magazine concept. It didnt properly exist in parlance until the mid 2010s.
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>>576221835
I know. There's a reason she does this to Silver
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>>576222175
i wonder how sonic would be if the critics were actual normie fans instead of youtubers and niche nerds in 00s
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>>576221747
There is nothing with Sonic being more than just a platformer if they had a pillar system for Sonic where they can express different gameplay ideas instead of putting everything into the mainline games
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>>576221847
Bullshit. No one cared until you started attacking other ships when people pointed out to you knuxouge is still more popular.
Be accountable.
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>>576221731
I hate these alphabet zoomers so much
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>>576221847
All ships get shit on but Shadouge specifically gets more hate than it usually would here because there's one guy who likes it that is extremely vicious about it, and when he goes after other ships like Knuxouge or Shadaria it's obvious. I bet at least half of the anti-Shadouge stuff is just a reaction to that rather than genuine hate.
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IDW needs more moments showcasing Surge's character
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>>576221717
This is the only real answer.
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>>576222308
ian also does make silver more uwu, i dont get the point of incelposting when males also butcher female series or female characters by projecting onto them.

the research is stupid since it doesnt give the boys barbies.
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>>576222492
That or just any Surge, we haven't seen her in forever.
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Sonic will give a vicious redemption to Surge.
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>>576219751
It means that Silver is younger, purer and more extreme than Sonic. Silver is actively good and altruistic and while Sonic more neutral and goes with the flow, Silver is more passionate and caring while Sonic is nonchalant, Silver is even more brash, honest and straightforward than Sonic who can be pretty brash himself. But he’s also younger, more naive and less emotionally mature than Sonic.
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>>576222484
I'm like 80% sure the "shadougefag" is just krack or another shipfag falseflagging
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>>576222316
Sonic in general is a cornerstone of internet culture. A lot of fans got into sonic via the internet specifically.
So its hard for me to even imagine.
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>>576222730
male amy
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>>576212095
I don't completely agree because I recall playing Heroes and Shadow prior to SXSG and being frankly dissapointed. It should've just been a new game that followed the spirit of the old media instead of just another flavor of nostalgia. Even aesthetic things like the presentation or the cadence to the dialogue makes it feel like something's not right. Don't get me started on all of this being just to advertise a movie with a Sonic that flosses and spews out pop culture names
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>>576222842
Well there's only like 5 posters here so that's a pretty good bet.
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>>576222305
>Sonic wasnt made as a "platformer".
True, Sonic was made to be a "high speed action game", which kinda explains the gameplay trajectory of the franchise and why we have boost now.

>[Platformer] didn't properly exist in parlance until the mid 2010s.
>>576218659 I feel like this is a Doom-clone/FPS situation.
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>>576222484
>>576221761
Hey you retarded fujo, can you go ask your little simping legion that is SWLU stop raiding us with spamming posts talking incessantly about taking down IDW and mentioning your name positively everywhere? I'm talking about shit like >>576220090 and >>576221170.
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>>576222484
Literally yes. Idgaf about it otherwise.
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>>576222842
Okay Shadougefag.
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>>576222843
i mean the normies playing games. i feel like they probably liked stuff like shth and 06 more
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>>576222894
Nobody saw that
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>>576222842
nah, it got especially bad after shadow gens
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>>576222435
Literally one irritating shadougefag. Compare that to the other shipfags here who behave much worse as a whole.
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We lost in Japan anons. The western domination is here.
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>>576222868
Light Sonic and Girl Sonic are gonna have some overlaps while still being distinctive. Silver and Amy interacting 06 do show how different they are
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>>576223125
>sonic takes off in japan
>it's 90s american sonic
how would sthg react to this?
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>>576223083
That lines up pretty well with krack shilling shadaria
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>>576223230
>whatever
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>>576223235
yeah krack broke someone by posting shadria when it was at its most intense in the franchise
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>>576222957
I don’t know who those people are. You have to face the reality that IDW has upset a lot of fans.
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>>576223125
How many times are we going to post this picture?
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>>576223050
Actually fuck it i don't care i want Zavok so fucking bad
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>>576222946
Sonic was also made to be a hedgehog so he can curl into a ball and have pinball-like level design
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>>576221847
Of course it gets shit on, shadouge and sonamy are two of the most popular ships (certainly most popular hetero ships) and have tons of canon backing. It's part and parcel of being in the spotlight.
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>>576223467
Yeah, but that's hard to do in 3D so compromises needed to be made.
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>>576222553
>i dont get the point of incelposting when males also butcher female series or female characters by projecting onto them.
That's fair. But most of the time its them performatively trying to be le male feminist and writing the character flatly as a result.
In general I think I'm underthinks the psychology of characters in general. While a lot of female writers maybe overthink the psychology and project a lot of weakness and vulnerability that isnt really there onto the character.
Ian tends to just write the characters like they are action figures with WWE promo speeches.


Evan writes characters liek Amy and Rouge great because she thinks out the character more thoroughly beyond how she exists on relation to the boys and if she can beat things up good and have memefeats and seem "conventionally competent".

Whereas people generally criticize Evan for not having enough cool action stuff.

Personally I think she had plenty but that's the pattern.
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fuck... i need knuckles dick
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>>576223691
Sonic...
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>>576222553
>the research is stupid since it doesnt give the boys barbies.
I was actually gonna say this. You beat me to it. Boys would throw the barbies at the wall and mangle them.
The few that dont would make em pretend to be violence sociopaths for keks.

and now you understand where the dunking on Amy actually comes from
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I am only attracted to humans
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>>576223460
(you)
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>>576223936
Sonic...
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A small reminder that from Jul 21, maybe before to Jul 24, the threads were ghost towns and hadn't the unnatural broken english, personal army sounding spamming with content like west vs. east bullshit, xitter caps, tribalism, "we need to keep on pressure" or "use this link to complain", and just after she was back the thread got rampant with it again, coinciding with this whore getting her fat arse off smelling chair for a week.
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>>576221747
But it's the reason Sonic is still around today and not dead like the other animal mascot franchises.
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So did sega gave any actual release date for the short sonic series they are going to make or nah ?
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>>576223459
Everyday until you kiss me.
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>>576223765
idw has fans the same way the rest of sonic has fans as in its a bunch of larpers and headcanon and youtube watchers and twitter users wanting cropped hype moments

nobody plays the games
nobody reads the comics
nobody is actually into sonic
it's all just autists checking wikis and arguing because it's something to do while waiting to consoom
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>>576223936
Shadow...
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>>576222946
>True, Sonic was made to be a "high speed action game", which kinda explains the gameplay trajectory of the franchise and why we have boost now.
I mean, its also why the "platformer" genre in general kind of faded in the 00s in general because it wasnt really a "thing".
Even Mario was a sidescrolling action game. Then 3D mario became a 3D action game. If anything, Sonic stayed more platformer-y than every other series that made the transition

Crash was the only real dedicated "platforming" 3D game because it was actively designed with that mentality.
And it remained limited by it as a result.
Every other series branched out ibto other types of subgenres of action games, whether including combat, shooting, exploration, flight, etc.

The concept of the 3D platformer is largely a modern invention.

The point of Sonic was never about being a platformer to begin with. Even Mario doesnt call itself a platformer today. They call the games "open Mario" and "course clear Mario."

Genre osification is bad in general and should be discouraged.
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>>576224179
Flattered, but I'm taken
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Stop being horny do the right thing and play TSR latest content drop
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>>576224407
But I need spicy vixen pussy...
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>>576222946
>I feel like this is a Doom-clone/FPS situation.
Kind of. People just called them sidescrollers back then. The problem though is a lot of sidescrollers are games people wouldn't call platformers. Some people would call them shmumps or beat-em-ups etc even though they are kind of debatable. Genres weren't really a hard throughout thong back then. People made games to showcase technology.
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>>576223430
I don't care, I just wish you would fuck off with your pathetic simps legion forever on calling you almost everyday, as if you avatarfagging and attention whoring wasn't bad enough like Slashy and Violet. Take your shit and seclude it all in your pajeet blue paid several twitter accounts alts.
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>>576224132
Sonic is still around because he's pretty, not because he's interesting or good

>>576224431
Sonic has gotten so boring that anon mixed up Crossworlds with TSR
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>>576224431
I'm so done with that game
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>>576224431
TSR?
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>>576223025
My memories of back then was people sayong ShtH was actually okay/decent until the internet reviewers came along and cemented its reputation beyond just people who followed game review scores on niche parts of the internet.

I dont think people LOVED them but people did have neutral to positive views of the game until the internet told them they were wrong to do so.
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>>576224664
>TSR?
Team sonic racing.
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>>576223105
Like?

>>576223125
Youre trying too hard. Its coming off desperate.
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>>576224227
>it's all just autists checking wikis and arguing because it's something to do while waiting to consoom
Like jap purists?
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>>576224431
If you mean CrossWorlds, the festival's already over and I did it two days ago. I'm playing Sega All-Stars now.
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>>576223936
>I am mentally healthy
Show off why dont you
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>>576224864
>Like?
Not shipping but there's Tailspedos coordinated spam here which is just godawfully obnoxious. Makes me just not wanna talk about Tails.
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Kill Zooey
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>>576224227
>nobody plays the games
I do!
>nobody reads the comics
Not as much but I keep up with it.
>it's all just autists checking wikis
I only ever checked wikis to see where the bullsgit wikifags believe came from.
>and arguing because it's something to do while waiting to consoom
Eh, guilty.
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>>576225086
She's already dead, no?
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>>576224906
JP purists arent a thing. Jpfags are reactionaries to westfags encroaching and setting people off, forcing fans to have to dig their heels into something that made sense.
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How many of you have actually watched the movies?
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>>576225437
i've only seen 2 and 3, never watched the first
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>>576223638
SA1 was closest they ever got to pinball physics in 3D and that was their first attempt. Also SA1 physics mod shows accurate rolling physics can work perfectly fine, there just isn't many places in the game that makes good use of rolling down slopes and up ramps
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>>576225437
Ive watched all 3. Never saw all of 2, just different parts. Saw all of 1 and 3 though.
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>>576225437
I saw keanudow's movie and that's it
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>>576225551
>SA1 was closest they ever got to pinball physics in 3D
No it isn't.
Classicfags just say that as a truism. In reality, they give it a pass because it superficially resembles the classics in more surface level ways compared to later games that realised that shit just doesn't actually make for good 3D sonic gameplay.
Not even the actual pinball in SA1 feels like proper pinball.
Heroes feels more like proper pinball than it.
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>>576225551
You can really tell mumentumfaggotry is more just people badwagonning Utopia when they frame Classic sonic physics as being about rolling down a hill to build speed to launch high into the air when that wasn't the point of it in the genesis games at all.
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It's almost as if going 3D was REALLY a mistake for Sonic. Should have always been kept as 2D going forward.
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Sonic games have no mechanical nuance.
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>>576225086
Why is her name Zooey rather than Zoey
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>>576225086
Zooey mama!
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>>576226493
>Nothing for Cream
Really nigga
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>>576224431
I laughed
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>>576226645
You still can do it.
https://poal.me/juniw1
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>>576225945
That's loser talk, 3D Sonic can work perfectly fine when the levels have actual structure and direction and the physics are strict enough to where you can't just fly over everything
A lot of fangame devs focus way too much on the level design being too open and physics being too loose. That doesn't mean the only solution is hallways, tank physics and boostslop
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>>576225945
Sonic 3D Blast had Pinball shit and no one liked it.
Part of going 3D was taking advantage of the medium to do things 2D both couldn't allow as well as rethink the player's relationship with the game as a result of the new perspective and dimension.

Sonic arguably makes more sense on 3D than 2D because you can actually see where you are going and have more twitchy gameplay which sells the speed fantasy.

Pinball shit doesn't work from that perspective even outside of Sonic. Everyone hates the pachinko machine in Sunshine.
The most hated levels in 3D Sonic are the Pinball ones.
People hated Spinball even.

And I say this as a pinballfag who loves pinball and likes pinball shit in Sonic actually.
But the facts are the facts.
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>>576226263
They used to but mechanical nuance gets read as "the game allowing me to fuck up" by players who blame the game instead.
So the devs gave up and just made the boost. Sonicfags just wanna hold forward and occasionally press A for some reason and blame the game and complain whenever it asks them to be meaningfully engaged with it.
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So in other words, Hessefag was right.
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>>576226946
>They used to
And how long ago was that?
Half the life of this franchise can be summed up as "it used to" it seems like to explain how it kept degrading and degrading
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>>576224227
>nobody plays the games
The weirdest accusation that keeps getting made here.
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>>576227137
Nobody plays the games in a meaningful way.
And if they did, they're mostly likely just going to cocksuck the game.
Like how people here like 06.
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>>576227000
>So in other words, Hessefag was right.
If heesefag was rigth then we would have gotten a sonic mania sequel but the game got cancelled so the hessefag is wrong.
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>>576227297
And SEGA should make a new adventure game, but they didn't because they're fucking retarded.
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>>576227000
Hessenic poster?
His your arguments used truths and half-truths to come to bad conclusions.

As >>576226740 said, you can integrate that stuff in ensured ways while keeping it organic and without overdoing it.

I think the slope wall at the start of City Escape is a great example of how that kind of thing could have been more thoroughly incorporated into level design. The game just doesn't really capitalize on it outside of Pyramid Cave for optional bonus points.

Part of the real problem with 3D Sonic is how it had to become more complicated. One of the benefits of the Adventure games imo is how the Level Up items acted as ways to introduce gameplay mechanics gradually rather than giving them all to the player right away and just expecting them to use them at the appropriate time on the fly.
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>>576227273
>Like how people here like 06.
This is also one of the weirder things that happens in Sonic spaces. We all know 06 is a shit game. But you can still find things to like about it. Fuck off.
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>>576224587
I don't know what you want me to do about them. Do you have a reasonable suggestion?
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>>576227614
You can like elements of it. I for one like the proportions of the characters.
People that try to say it's a good game because of hype or aura moments however are out of their minds.
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>>576227078
>And how long ago was that?
I mean fine smartass you got me i guess.
But to be fair, all of like 3 games came out in the latter half of the series' life that weren't re-releases or rehashes.
And Unleash actually did have a good deal of mechanical complexity, which turned a good deal of people off actually, which is something a lot of Unleashedfags who only remember people dunking on the werehog have memoryholed.
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There should be a podcast where Sonic fans come on to debate their views like Lex Fridman except it's about Sonic media instead of politics.
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>>576227796
Are you also trying to say the Werehog has merit?
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^fuck off Krack.
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>>576227273
Im starting to think you yourself never played thr games or 06 and are here more to play narrative police at this point.
I have more respect for a person who played that shit game and wants to have a convo about it than you who just wants to complain abput people doing anything but dogging on it.
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Fuck on Sonic
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>>576227767
>You can like elements of it.
No, I can like whatever I like you stupid moron.
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>>576227387
In what way that SA1 gameplayfags care is Frontiers not just the SA1 sequel they wanted when you get to it though?
They cant even cry about no spindash because its in the game now.
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>>576227914
>Im starting to think you yourself never played thr games
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>>576228072
I like both games and I can see Frontiers as a sequel to SA1 in some regards. However there are also many differences. The tone, the gameplay, the stages, the areas, the music. In terms of game structure SA2 and 2006 are much closer.
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>>576227976
Alright, Mr. Cocksucker. I get it.
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>>576227879
No but since ypu bring it up id personally have preferred it if it focused on platforming over combat rooms because the platforming was solid imo.
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>>576227914
Yeah, they just want people who disagree with them on that game to shut up. I wanted to talk about Sonic 2006 when I played it and I constantly had to deal with these "you can't play or discuss this game ITS BAD!!!!!!!" fucking dumbasses every time.

>>576228091
>45 hours
I hope you played on another platform as well because those are baby numbers
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>>576228091
>game
>singular
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I HATE THE POST 1998 ERA I HATE YOU I WANT YOU GONE
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I have Marathon Recompiled but no method to actually mod it on Linux. Halp pls
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>>576196106
>Bromance ship is mostly peaceful beautiful loving bond between Boys
>Hetship is ridden with degenerate sexpest with cuck fantasy
The only conclusion to make is women are evil goblin creatures hellbent on destroying civilizations
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>>576228285
>you like thing I don't like therefore you like everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shut the fuck up already.
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>>576228483
>sonadow
>Bromance

No
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Who's the biggest fox slut?
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>>576217934
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It so fucking stupid that Classic fans still believe that the only way for the Sonic ip to be save is to go back to 2d era where the characters had static personality and it had only 1 villian.
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>>576228459
I haven't installed it yet since I'm waiting for it to be done first, so I can't help you. Also I heard some mods aren't supported yet.
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>>576218267
Ye
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>>576228448
>POST 1998
So you like Adventure 1? Good taste

>>576228627
The series would have died if it didn't evolve to 3D. Mania on the Saturn or Dreamcast would have been a massive failure as it would have been seen as an outdated rehash. They literally want to kill Sonic
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>>576219971
>>576222278
ZavokChad and RotorChad should fuck
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>>576228627
The 1 villain thing is kind of a weird complaint I swear comes from comicfags.
Imagine if you complained about Mario being structured around Bowser being the main villain with the occasional alt villain in the mix.
Its dumb

The series at its core is structured around Sonic and Eggman.
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>>576228386
I used to play with a physical copy of Battle.
45 hours is just around the time it takes to get all the emblems if you play semi-competently. Barring chao raising stuff.
>>576228420
Don't make me pull out Sonic 3 AIR next or something, my shortcut doesn't work properly.
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>>576228848
>Don't make me pull out Sonic 3 AIR next or something, my shortcut doesn't work properly.
>22 hours of SA1
Pull out the numbers.
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>>576228506
So you like elements of 06, which was my initial point.
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>>576228994
I like the game in general. There are other games that I don't like. You are free to disagree. If you're going to tell me what I am allowed or not allowed to like then I am going to tell you to fuck off.
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Why does anon keep posting Tiara?
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>>576229083
Oh, I'm just calling you a cocksucker.
Feel free to like it, and feel free to get mad at my childish insults.
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Would Sonic get emotional if his world suddenly operated on realistic logic and Sonic was killed by Sonic.EXE?
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I want an 06 remake and I am not kidding
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>>576229187
>realistic logic
>Sonic.EXE
Exefags are a tumor.
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>>576229157
I don't care about your insults. I care about calling you a fucking retard for telling people what they "can" like.
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>>576228990
numbers of what
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>>576222492
Evan’s Surge or Ian’s Surge? They’re basically two different people. Ian’s Surge hates civilians and this page would never happen under his writing.
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>>576229116
Why does anon not post Tiara, is the question?
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>>576229249
Ok?
Enjoy your glitches then.
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>>576229495
Shut the fuck up, retard.
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>>576229327
Playthroughs
>filename
Kek
What else game did you play? Or was it only these 3?
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>>576229442
She isn't a real character.
Also your files call her honey the cat.
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>>576229528
Enjoy your load times then.
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>>576229157
>like it
Not that anon but I LOVE IT like no like seriously...lol jk
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>>576226764
Everyone hated Pachinko because it was a buggy map that didn't Play well with Sunshine's controls. Same with Heroes pinball.
Spinball was slow and boring iirc. 3D Blast was fine for what it was.
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>>576229327
>Knuckles and Tails
Which version is this?
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>>576229495
https://youtu.be/Qzx41tdPHvY
Oh nonononono
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>>576229717
That's just because the artist's handle was "honeythecat". The source link is dead but you can still see the reblogs. https://okawiko.tumblr.com/post/750070402876899328/honeythecat-i-love-tiara-boobowski-so-much
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>>576229829
>Everyone hated Pachinko because it was a buggy map that didn't Play well with Sunshine's controls
Bullcrap. Its because panchinko shit in general.
The only time people liked actual pinball shit in the Classics was in Casino Noght where it was basically optional and the level was otherwise easy.
The second you ask anyone to do anything particular with it, people get upset.
>Spinball was slow and boring iirc.
It was confusing for people to figure out what you were even supposed to do.
>3D Blast was fine for what it was.
I actually dont disagree. But the fact remains people didnt like it.
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>>576229593
I've done runs of SA1 and SA2 story modes a few times, but I never got all the emblems on one file until a few years ago.
Played the genesis games tons of time but they're short. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy is she's in via mod or something.
Played a ton of sonic games once to various degrees.
I do want to get around to playing Unleashed decompiled. I know it's not the authentic experience to the consoles, but I played the console version a long time ago so I'm taking the luxury. On the opposite end, I know Free Riders has been modded to handheld controls, but I'm going to play it on the kinect for the hell of it anyway.
>>576229904
Sonic 3K AIR. I think it's an unlockable.
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How would Sonic meet Bon?
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>>576230378
Have you played the GG games? Handheld games like Advance or Rush?
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>>576230378
>On the opposite end, I know Free Riders has been modded to handheld controls, but I'm going to play it on the kinect for the hell of it anyway.
I still intend to do this, but I'm kind of dreading it.
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>>576231969
y'know what they say, break a leg
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>>576231072
Yes to the GG stuff. I would personally recommend the original Triple Trouble over the remake.
And I do own the Advance series, minus Battle. I really should just get it to round out the set though. Rush, RA, and Colors DS are lost in a pile of games right now so they can't say hi.
>>576231969
The fucking set up is what kills me. I don't want to do that part even if I managed to acquire the console and game.
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I miss my r4 cards...
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>>576232656
>The fucking set up is what kills me.
I should have space for it. I already had a PSVR set up in the same space (that's caked in dust by now). But I'll have to move a coffee table every time I want to use it. Or just leave it moved until I finish it. Neither sounds like a good idea.
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>>576232920
He got the plan...
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stop discussing sonic games right nwo
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>Shitver took home a pie recipe Amy gave him.
Its hard for me to not like characters Amy befriends.
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>>576232656
Nice! Im fond of Colors DS and RA myself.
Whats your fave Advance game?

>>576232884
I had a TTDS
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>>576233383
I think what makes Shitv-I mean Silver fun is that for as powerful and "cool" as he is, he still comes in feeling like everyone's junior. Its fun watching him be easily entertained by basic shit from the core cast. But I guess that's to be expected since its kinda how Future Trunks was.
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I wish I had a list crediting the composers of each song in 3&K
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Sonic secretly hates sega for aborting his brothers Rednic, Yellownic and sister sonic from the cancelled jrpg, game sonic had a whole family he never got to spend time with, he is jealous of underground sonic and nicky for having families
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>>576233532
I think I got an r4 over ttds to use actoon replay codes. I could emulate on my fold phone but it doesn't feel the same.
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>>576234343
Rednic and Yellownic turned into Mighty and Ray.
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>>576234527
I could homebrew my 3DS but it feels risky. I dont wanna brick my console. those things aren't cheap.
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>>576234343
Sister Sonic was just popful mail.
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I love Surge's stinky pussy
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>>576234664
There is no risk nowadays, just follow the guide.
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>>576233532
I was handed down a Genesis before I could even remember and the household was a PS1 house, so Sonic was always a Genesis only thing since my young brain didn’t know any better.
That is until Advance 2, which my first time exposure to Sonic being away from the console. From there is when I realized there’s tons of things I was unaware about, and that constant stream of discovery is probably what enamored me to being a part of this franchise to this day.
So while Advance 2 isn’t my first Sonic game, it has that over me. It’s not so much about the game itself, but what it brought to me that makes it one of my favorites in Sonic in general.
>>576232969
I can make the setup, I’d just have to move things out of the way.
Also I could have sworn I bought a copy of one of the Leapster Sonic games but I can’t find it. I thought I left it next to the Xbox but it’s not there. Maybe I’m imagining it.
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>>576222553
I will go back to the differences between localizations.

Japanese Silver isn't American Silver.

Japanese Silver seems to be the stereotype of those "Idol" pretty boys with long hair from Jpop or Kpop groups, going from his voice actor.

American Silver is a crybaby hero, like Deku from MHA.

Both interpretations seem to be intended since it's a bit hard to translate every cultural nuance to the international market.
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>>576235023
>American Silver is a crybaby hero
who's idea was doing this shit
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That's my paragonic right there
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>>576235082
臆病者は逃げる。俺が勝つ。
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>>576234771
Yes but she could have been sonic’s sister in a better world
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Hello, /sthg/
How's it hanging?
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>>576235465
Why keep this donut steel around when now sage can do her job
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>>576235571
She hits a different type of kuudere button that Sage (Ai) doesn't hit for me at least.
I do like both though.
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>>576235465
same old same old, how about you sageanon?
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>>576235571
Is that not Sage?
Does Sage have a twin?
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Drawfag here, I still hate niggers
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>>576235465
>>576235571
>>576235785
I feel like Sage needs a redesign.
I don't like her hair, her clothes are fine but her pants suck. Replace them if you want but honestly just removing them and making her sweater longer is an improvement by itself.
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>>576235571
We have room for both サゲ and セージ

Why is the game character called Sage anyway? I still haven't made sense of that
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>>576236048
Drawfag here, sorry, typo
I meant to say I hate naggers
I hate people that whine and nag a lot.
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>>576236276
that was a funny episode
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>>576236176
Anagram for sega
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>>576236429
Doesn't make sense, that has nothing to do with the character specifically. She isn't more of a SEGA character than any other Sonic character
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>>576236368
>you see sonic i just get high and then a portal shows up and lets me travel to the past to help save the future, i swear is true man, im not addicted i can stop at any tome
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>>576235967
Not much her as well.
>>576236169
I draw her in panties like 90% of the time anyways
I do agree that the pants are kinda boring. Maybe just the long sweater and no pants? Might be too "feminine" for her though.
As for the "boring" librarian hair, I think it fits her. Maybe she could use a different knot? Still would feel odd to redesign her this far in.
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ITT characters nobody talks about ever
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>>576235020
>constant stream of discovery is probably what enamored me to being a part of this franchise to this day.
That's a big part of it for me as well desu.
Mega Collection was this for me.
I played Sonic 2 on genesis and 3 and 3D Blast and Knuckles etc on PC but SA2, Adv and Mega Collection are what cemented my investment in the series.
I actually love Adv 2 most actually. I think its overhated by elitists. Yes I agknowledge the flaws of the game. But I also just find it more interesting to play than Adv 1 which feels kind of ho hum by comparison.
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>>576236614
I don't think a redesign now would be too weird, we seem to be a plateau honestly.
And honestly a mascot for a anonymous group with no leaders or in group moderators doesn't need a official release or anything, I'm just going to start drawing her without pants from now on.
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>>576236614
I guess I'm in the minority opinion since I think Sage with pants looks fine, maybe they could be a bit baggier to help with her disheveled/empathetic aesthetic
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>>576234852
Kit…
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>try to read idw
>it's shit
>"maybe i am just too old for sonic"
>try to read archie
>had fun
idw is shit. got it.
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Tail/ss/
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>>576237925
Anon, did you just now discover this?
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>>576045374
Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19691
PSD archive (includes uncensored boards):
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
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No one likes to admit it but if Archie and SATAM and Underground weren't around, Sonic would have died in the 90's.
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>>576236830
Mega Collection was really cool to me at the time, it introduced me to Sonic and Knuckles. I wasn’t aware of that game at all when I was Genesis only, so it really was just a shock to see that all this time I was missing a game on the Genesis.
Then discovering Adventure 2 on the internet and that 3 and Knuckles could combine to one game was also a massive wtf moment. I basically scrambled to get a copy of Battle and to finally get a physical cart of S&K because I just had have this experience on the Genesis itself. Looking back it’s kinda weird that kid me needed it done with the original hardware instead of settling with Mega Collection, I never did anything like that prior or since then really.
Also I found the leapster cart. Don’t own the console to play it though, but funny enough im happy to have it.
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>>576238314
Awesome
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>>576236176
>サゲ
So stupid. Thats sah-gey. It should be Se-i-ji
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>>576238314
Holy shit lol
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>>576238508
サゲ is how her name is pronounced. It's literally a Japanese word.
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>>576238392
>that 3 and Knuckles could combine to one game was also a massive wtf moment
Yeah that shit blew my mind too. And the fact the super emeralds existed and that I wasn't the only one that got stuck at the barrel in Carnival Night lmao.
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>>576238314
DON'T CARE ABOUT SHIPS
JUST WANT TO FUCK SARA'S TITS
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>>576238671
Do not correct gaijin.
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>>576238314
Espio looks great as a regular chameleon
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>>576238671
Its a different word tho. You're romanizing japanese characters and pronouncing the romanization in regular english.

サゲ would read to a japanese person as "sir gay" lol
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>>576236909
Just for fun here's some hairstyles.
What should I try on her?
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>>576238952
hnnng,
both are good.
I like number 2 personally, but she's part of a duo, so maybe the ponytail would pair with Bump more.
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>>576238952
I know the messy hair doesn't fit her character, but daaamn she looks so cute with the short, messy do.
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So apparently Chester Cheetah was unironically being considered as a crossover character for Crossworlds at one point. We almost had Crashdow 2 happen irl.
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>>576239046
>>576239073
Oh yeah good point. It'd probably need to be a mid/past shoulders hairdo
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>>576238952
I personally like her original design but I like the ponytail.
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>>576238952
I like right a little more
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>>576238947
>Its a different word tho.
It's not. The word is sage regardless of which script you represent it in.

>and pronouncing the romanization in regular english.
I'm pronouncing it as it is. Sa ge. サゲ.

>サゲ would read to a japanese person as
Exactly the same as its equivalent hiragana characters.
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>>576239403
Stop correcting gaijin. Them not knowing katakana makes them look retarded to other lol.
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Why the fuck does Japan have 3 fucking alphabets anyway?
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>>576239764
Chinese writing is so shit that Japan created two more writing systems to use less of it and Korea tossed it completely.
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>>576239764
Treat hiragana and katakana as upper case and lower case.
Or regular writing and cursive writing.
It's not too bad.
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>>576239764
China, Korea and England respectively in that order.
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>>576239609
>katakana
Thats hiragana, poser.
Also stop replying to yourself.
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>>576239764
IMO the more you use them the more sense it makes.
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>>576238314
Based yume
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Knuckles is a
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>>576239976
>Word derived from native Japanese internet slang
>Hiragana
You're will never speak Japanese.
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>>576239764
Kanji is just Chinese characters that they kept because there are just benefits to it such as ideas and concepts not being able to be conveyed with just letters.
Hiragana is basically the main letters and katakana is basically used for when using loan words from other languages like English.
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>>576238314
This looks like shit
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>>576240340
>katakana is basically used for when using loan words from other languages like English.

English is a convoluted language. Is it really a good idea to take words from it? What words could they have possibly taken? Medical terms?
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Would you rather 3 separate but frequently adjusted and used alphabets or one alphabet with over 600 "letters" and a quarter of them are outdated and not used?
That's why Kanji even became a thing.
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>>576240581
What's your point?
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>>576240754
That Mandarin fucking sucks and I hate it.
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Vietnamese also used only Chinese logographs until the French made the language shift to using the Latin alphabet
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>>576240246
spectator
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>>576239046
>>576239073
>>576239298
>>576239303
Thank you, guys. Here are some styles I personally like. I don't think they quite fit her tho
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Chinese is a better language than Japanese, but Chinese anime sounds stilted because of tones sometimes compared to Japanese.
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>>576240363
Turn on your monitor
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>>576240251
Yes but the character's name ks not pronounced like the original term the word is derived from you smug cunt.

Its like how Mirai made her pen name Futsure thinking its her pronouncing her name in English.
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>>576240246
hot stud who's ready to pound some hedgehog bussy
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>>576240551
Names for things mostly.
You arent gonna call Sonic The Hedgehog "onsoku no harinezumu".

Also, English in general just sounds cool and modern to Japanese people. Its why a lot of the core Sonic cast use Engrish.

Kata doesn't carry the baggage of the English language. Its just used to approximate the sounds for the words themselves.
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>>576241250
>Chinese anime
Knocking off anime is a more ap term.
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>>576241250
>Chinese anime
Donghua*
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>>576241665
>Its just used to approximate the sounds for the words themselves.
And yet R/L is still unpronounceable. Language in general is weird.
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>>576241223
Far right is perfect, but middle works to.
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chomp
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Sage's unbearable toxic farts
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This is XTREME
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>>576240246
Loving Husband of Sonic
>>576241658
Post Bottomnic and Big Red Knuckcocks
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>>576243058
the only thing i don't like about archie is how many of the issues are set in boring looking hills
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>>576215873
I don’t ship either but Rouge literally says nobody but MarIa can get through to him in that short animation
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>>576241223
Number 3 looks perfect to me. I always imagined Sage having long hair but having a bed head from sleeping all day.
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Sonic is an EXTREMIST
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>>576227850
>filename says honey the cat
>honey the cat is not in picrel
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>>576228483
Why do sonadowfags like to steal attributes from sonknux?
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>>576243282
did r18 make this or was this someone else?
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>>576240551
There are some words and concepts within the romantic languages that do not translate well or at all within Asian dialect and alphabets.

"Television" and "Microscope" are perfect examples of this. There is no such thing as a "Tele" or "scope" within Nipponese so unless you borrow the words directly from the language you're next best translation for "Television" would be something like "Cube that transmits electricity visually" and for "microscope" it'd be something like "Reverse sky lens that sees really small things."
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>>576243282
cute n canon
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Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>576244117
fucking sucks
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This will happen some day
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no.
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Sonic Adventure 2.5
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>>576244504
And the villian is this guy
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>>576244732
If it isn't the 4th wheel.
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Shadow casually beating Sonic for being a faggot
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>>576244732
Amy has her hand on Sonic's back and Sonic is putting his hand in front of Amy to protect her
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>>576244896
Sonadow fujos need to stop pretending like their AIDS crackship has any intimate beauty in fan art. Sonadow only exists because because Sonadow fujos want to get off on it
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Idk why Iizuka is so autistic about keeping Shadow as an aggressive edgehog. Can he at least respect Sonic? Not even as a friend but just as someone who has factually kicked his ass several times. It just feels like a parody of him at this point.
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>>576245542
>because Sonadow fujos want to get off on it
Well yeah duh
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>>576245548
jap website does say sonic and shadow acknowledge each other strengths
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anons, which gay sonic ship is better?
sonadow or sonkuckles
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>>576246039
I like both
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>>576238314
uhh who did the honey? asking for a friend
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I masturbated too hard for Amy and now my penis hurts...
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>>576245662
Maybe. But sometimes he seems almost spiteful towards Sonic sometimes and it feels weird and forced because Sonic has genuinely done nothing but stop him from destroying the world once. What reason would he even have to directly dislike Sonic?
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>>576246039
The canon one.
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>>576246039
Sonic should have a normal mobian boyfriend that just loves him instead of a toxic rival relationship
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>>576246039
>>576246487
So Sonknux yeah?
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>>576238314
https://files.catbox.moe/oznd7c.png
cat tats
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>>576246647
rokuro has poisoned your brain. Knuckles is too lovey dovey in her art
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>>576243731
No. Sonic is a radical. Those are different things.
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>>576243908
For real. Its because they only pretend to care about the characters. They just wanna play with the most prized toys.
Sonucks is gayshit but it makes way more sense at least if you wanna go that route.
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>>576247053
good stuff
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>>576245548
>aggressive edgehog
Shadow was actually edited in the Lunar arc for being TOO aggressive and edgy.
You're making things up to be mad about.
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>>576243998
...Language is weird.

Television is actually made of one greek word and one latin word. "Tele" which means far (greek) and "Vision" which means sight (latin).

Microscope is a latin word...Made from two greek words. "Mikros" which means small and "skopein" which means "to look".

Yes, I googled this out of curiosity.
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>>576247306
>Knuckles is drawn like in the games.
>But Sonic is drawn like Movie Sonic.
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>>576247764
Which was OoC for him. This is why the Shadow mandates are working against him rather than doing Shadow any favor
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>>576245548
>Can he at least respect Sonic?
That's literally their dynamic. In ShadGens, he straight up doesnt use his Doom powers because its not how he wants to win against his rival.
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Wisper scandal update: Wisper sleeps nude in an oxygen tent which she believes gives her sexual powers!
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>>576248305
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypobaric_chamber
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>>576248045
Why would Shadow pull a sword on Sonic just for a casually race to get a chaos emerald?
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>>576248168
>I'm so strong I limit myself to fight Sonic
I don't think you don't realize this wasn't to make Sonic look good
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>>576243282
https://files.catbox.moe/gtr9m7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/o3e8iq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/3veuso.png
https://files.catbox.moe/c7y19x.png
https://files.catbox.moe/rwrrl2.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0wq4j1.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/dkqq1b.png
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Finally got around to finishing Frontiers as I hate open world games, and I know as I read the comics, they're going to assume I played and finished the game. 5.5/10, I am incredibly biased against the genre.

I guess I'll play through Shadow Generations next after picking it up on the sale unless Sonic's campaign was changed as well. Did they really not bother to resync the lips to the voices?
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>>576248531
I didn't say it did. What it did was take a fight that seemed like a clear stomp and actually equalize it. The implication isn't that Shadow would have won if he did, but that he was preocuppied with holding back which made him fumble.
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>>576248548
What Sonic 3D games do you like?
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>>576247912
They get very weird and funny becauae often times cultures will have two completely different words for the same thing like a telescope, but those words translated in the other language means something completely different literally. Humans learn better auditorially than by reading it. The words transcribed into languages is a different concept altogether and more complex as is obvious. There are some "fluent" English speakers that sound entirely incomprehensible to others.
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>>576236176
If you want to keep her name true to the meaning, it should be さげる, which means "to lower something". Also used on old boards, same as Noko.
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>>576249082
They (and we) use "sage" which is also a Japanese word, just a noun instead of a verb.
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>>576248806
>The implication isn't that Shadow would have won if he did
Of course it was. Shadow was considering for a minute if he should blast Sonic with a chaos spear for an easy win when he had his guard down. It's pretty obvious he would have hit him and won.
And now that we are at this topic:
>>576248416
Notice how Shadow doesn't feel remorse for thinking about vaporizing Sonic with a chaos blast that is way more dangerous than a normal sword. He only thinks about not beating him with his normal powers.
This "scalating things too quickly" is such a stupid decision because Shadow wants to get things done, especially with a chaos emerald on the line.
Coming from the I am fine with taking candy from a baby to this, further proves purists don't care about Shadow. They only care about what their Jewish japanese masters tell them what Shadow is.
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>>576223125

We lost because of one Tangle plush?
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>>576249365
Forgot pic
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>>576248532
I like when Sonic does this thing with his legs
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>>576249415
Please understand, their desperation is showing
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Evan Stanley is a better writer than Ian Flynn.
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>>576249521
Tails deserved the bullying
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>>576249330
I know, but if you write サゲ, no Japanese person would understand, at most would think about Rakugo. You would have to keep it SAGE as it is or adapt it to さげる., so it would make sense.
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>>576249365
>Notice how Shadow doesn't feel remorse for thinking about vaporizing Sonic with a chaos blast that is way more dangerous than a normal sword
In a serious fight, yeah. Not a casual sprint for an emerald.
Shadow doesnt threaten with action. He warns you with words.
Then of he has no intention of killing you he will make a comment about you being fortunate he is sparing you or something.
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>>576249494
He literally chose not to use Doom Spears here though.
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>>576248806
>>576249365
I think you two are talking over the point I'm trying to make. Both on a meta and narrative level I do not understand why Shadow has to be so snide, standoff-ish and spiteful to Sonic.
Sonic literally did nothing to him. Everytime Shadow fought Sonic it was because HE instigated it and often got beaten. You would think he would at least be like "Okay this guy is someone I at least to need to consider when fighting." He isn't Metal Sonic.
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>>576247053
Its ok but needs improvement
6/10
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>>576249617
i believe it's called "leg locking"
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>>576250303
My as a kid trying to buy Sonic games being hunted by wild milfs
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>>576250303
Sonic Schutzstaffel?
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>>576250303
rouge on her way to rape tails
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Chip
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>>576250482
Very cute
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We need big mobians. Like actually big. Big is like 2 meters tall. I want 4 meters tall characters
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>>576250303
yeah...
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>>576250010
kind of vague but im not sure i want a list of all the issues with it either so thank you
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>>576249983
>Both on a meta and narrative level I do not understand why Shadow has to be so snide, standoff-ish and spiteful to Sonic.
He's been that way since Heroes and was that with with him in most of SA2.
If anything, I dont get why people need them to be buddies.

On a meta level, its because Sonic and Shadow are not deuteragonists and shouldn't be treated as such. The point of Shadow as a character as he originally was concieved was to be a rival character that elevated Sonic by forcing him to level up.
His reintroduction was to have a character that can explore stories and concepts that dont suit Sonic.
>Sonic literally did nothing to him. Seeing another hedgehog that looks like him bothered him, especially after seeing the broken Shadow Android in Rail Canyon.
So when he sees this Blue hedgehog that looks like him, that is like him in strength and ability it bothers him. He is the ULF. The one and only.
>thats du-
That's literally part of his animosity towards him in SA2. He says it in every recap.

>Everytime Shadow fought Sonic it was because HE instigated it and often got beaten.

That's....not true. Just like SA2, almost all of their fights is Sonic initiating it.
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>>576250826
>ladies, hit me up if youre a gooner weeb pedophile
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>>576250826
>pokemon
The turbo manchildren
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>>576222553
you don't need to think much, just making him a bit tougher while still keeping some softness works for that.
>>576223669
sure but it's an excuse to incelpost as if ian, pontaff and other male writers haven't uwufied silver to make him more likeable to the american audience. they also seethe about ship or fujo fanart for the same reason about females as if male fan content doesn't characterize the female chars in a way mobius unleashed characterizes them.
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what is your holy grail of sonic merchandise
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>>576252273
Both would never blush.
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>>576246039
Try something heterosexual.
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Where does he store them?
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>>576249784
They would understand because they can read. You can also find people typing it like that if you look it up. When I did look it up I also found a Wikipedia page using the terms age and sage in a different online slang context, both spelled with katakana. I will also further defend my choice to type it as I did by pointing out that it is common in Japanese media to use katakana to spell the made up names of fictional characters (regardless of the original language or etymology of the name) in katakana, and second, that I wanted it to be consistent with how the other Sage is spelled. If a story featuring our Sage was translated to Japanese, I believe her name would be spelled in katakana, which would be consistent and would help differentiate it from the regular word. Now, I'm not some expert in Japanese, far from it, but this matches the spellings I've seen in Japanese media in my experience. I'll be happy to be proven wrong if you can do it.
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>>576253317
In a pocket dimension accessed from their backs.
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>>576253103
blaze does blush to multiple people, but its more of an embarrasment or social awkwardness thing than romance.
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What is a Sonic game?
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>>576223162
this makes me how light attitude is feminized and this is partly why shadow is portrayed as dom in most sonadow/shadilver content
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>>576249679
That's not a high bar. Neither of them have a successful creator owned comic or a character defining run.

Just to put things in perspective, the hierarchy is:
Superstars (Todd McFarlane, Alan Moore, Frank Miller, Grant Morrison)
A-listers (Jim Zub, Scott Synder, Warren Ellis, Garth Ennis)
B-Listers (Brian Pulido, Jamie Delano, Marv Wolfman, Mark Waid, Tim Seeley, Ken Penders is here)
C-Listers (Gail Simone, Jed McKay, Saladin Ahmed, Ian and Evan are here)
D-Listers (Anyone who has ever self-published a comic)

Licensed comics (like Sonic) are usually where all the C-listers congregate. The area where "People buy the comic for the IP" and not the creative staff. There are exceptions (G.I.Joe being defined by Larry Hamma for instance) but most are just forgotten.
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robotnik and his penis invite everyone over for tea
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>>576253687
Fun
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>>576253687
A miserable pile of secrets
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>>576253317
His penis.
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>>576253369
>Sage was translated to Japanese, I believe her name would be spelled in katakana
Yes. Just not the way you spelled it because we dont pronounce it as Sah-gey. We pronounce it as say-j.
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https://files.catbox.moe/uizkbq.png
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>>576255794
The email/Options field word "sage" is pronounced sah-gey. If you've been pronouncing it like the English word of the same spelling, you've been pronouncing it wrong.
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>>576253687
This right here.
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>>576255886
The character's name, based on that word, is pronounced in English and always has been.
Youre just being a pretentious weeb right now. It doesn't matter that the root word is pronounced a certain way natively. The character's name is still pronounced the way it is regardless.
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>>576256008
Nah, you're just a retard who doesn't know imageboard culture and now you're trying to justify your embarrassing mistake. Sage is not the English word in this context and you would only mispronounce it like that out of ignorance. A Japanese speaker would understand the meaning f the name and what it's referencing if spelled properly, your mispronunciation and misspelling erases culture and meaning.
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Is there any discussion too stupid for you guys?
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>>576256198
Okay you're special ed so ill take the time to explain it to you with an example.

Moltres, the Pokemon, is named ファイヤー (katakana. Lit "Fire".) In Japanese.
That doesnt suddenly make the correct pronunciation of its Japanese name "Fire" like in English just because its taken from the English word. That's now how names work.

For all my time on the board being on voice chats with people and even talking with people involved in the creation of the mascots, its always been pronounced "Say-j", independant of the original pronunciation in thr native language of the word the same is derived from. Because that's how fucking names work.

So unless you wanna come out with receipts proving you are Sage's creator, youre full of shit and just trying to come off as smarter than others on the internet and should kindly shut up.
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>>576256449
>now how names work
*not

>same is derived from.
*name
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>>576256339
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>>576256523
negro chimping out as usual i see
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>>576256553
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>>576256597
>american chimping out as usual
FTFY
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>>576256523
Mfw they ship Dawn instead of May so I have to destroy them with my wrath
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>>576253317
Inside his alien black arms pouch where he would put his babies when he gets pregnant
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>Compare Shadow The Hedgehog (2005) official vs accurate english translations
>Official translation plays up the edginess and changes some character personalities slightly but isnt too far removed from Japanese overall
>Compare Sonic Crossworlds (2025) official vs accurate english translations
>It's entirely different, there's not even a single line that matches the original text
Is this franchise just unsalvageable in the west?
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>>576256449
Oh, alright then, I must apologize. You mispronounced the word so much in the context of the character's name that you want to make it into a standard, to the point that the reference in her name i completely lost. That is not something to brag about, it's embarrassing and ignorant. The real pronunciation makes more sense and retains the original meaning when rendered back to katakana, and additionally helps distinguish her from the game character Sage. I really was not expecting this to be so controversial for you, when the two characters have distinct names that only happen to look the same when spelled with Latin characters, and the point of my original post was to distinguish between the two characters in a fun way that respects their names. But if this watering down mispronunciation is so important to you that you want to characterize it as a tradition of the general, I'll let you have it. The two names are written and pronounced the exact same way, you've done it long enough that it's the correct pronunciation and spelling now, I now recognize that you have official say on the matter. I'll keep pronouncing and typing it the way I see fit, though.
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>>576257132
English is funny
Japanese is boring
Tale as old as time
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>I got rich from selling fake artificial chaos emeralds
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>>576257193
>english is cliche shit
>japanese is anime shit
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>>576256339
shipping
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i am going to kiss you, /sthg/, and there's nothing you can do about it
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But I am autistic
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>>576256339
Character race discussion actually triggers the fuck out of me.
>"You know how Knuckles is black right?"
>"I'm not opening that can of autism, sorry"
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I wonder what will happen this month m it's been pretty slow.
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>>576258401
we will have sex
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eggman is part of the egg race
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>>576259028
he's really fat i don't know if he'll win
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>>576250826
THE FUCK THIS NIGGA DOIN?!
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I saw someone claim liking sonic is lame because it's not 1993 anymore
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>>576260690
>reddit frog
I ain't reading that
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>>576260690
We call such people "retards".
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>boot up Crossworlds for the festival
>have to lock the frick in because i only have three hours before the festival ends and i just started
>full human instant lobbies
I thought this game was dead and bombed?
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>>576257824
What are you doing here Toby?
Shouldn't you be busy making your game easier.
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>>576234771
https://youtu.be/x5MBtpuQm2c&t=441
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eating the beefy potato loaded griller from taco bell for just $2.79
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>>576262667
I had taco bell last night too br0
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>>576250482
Look at all that Surge!
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>>576257242
anime shit is cliche shit but japanese
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>>576222492
>IDW needs more moments showcasing Surge's character
Not while she's under the pen of someone with chronic daddy issues.
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>>576263249
I guess you can say
she's surging
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How would a decent Jap writer like Imada handle these characters, now that they're bleeding into Japan?
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>>576264127
We all know JP Surge would be a tsundere, though I dunno what they'd do with Kit
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>>576264127
I feel like Tangle at least is easy, Whisper is of course harder.
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So do any of you really like Sonic? I freely admit I'm a secondary/casual. I've always been more of a Mario guy. My gf is super into Sonic tho so I can't really escape the hedgehog.
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>>576187874

shipshit aside, its true amy has more interesting dynamics with any character said character has with most others.

that bein said it is because, as you said, she is the friend wrangler character made for that purpose, it's unreasonable to expect her to be tied to any specific character in the same way they push stuff like team dark or team dimensions. people don't really try to understand logistics. when trying to agenda push
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>>576264632
>So do any of you really like Sonic?
I actually quite dislike Sonic
>why are you here
i dunno!
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>>576264127
I'm still surprised SoJ bothered to keep Clutch around into the new status quo. He doesn't seem like he offers much - especially as Eggman's enslaved bitch
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>>576264127
>How would a decent Jap writer like Imada
>decent
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>>576264632
I hate that hedgehog
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>>576264893
I have to specify, yes. I'm not naive enough to say "any Jap" will automatically be better than the Americans: Makoto Goya & Eitaro Toyoda were responsible for Forces, after all. But I also know Imada's well-above EvanIan, and he's pretty much the only generally-okay author that's anywhere near Sega at the moment, so he's my example until someone better comes along.
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is there any up to date comic cbz archive? op links are dead
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>>576265965
we all hate SHITver
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>>576265965
he should splatter them both
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shadow outright talks to silver the way vegeta talks to trunks
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>>576265506
>>576265506
See this isn't lesbianism like IDW
this, this is yuri.
know the difference
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>>576265965
They're so cute, Cream needs to up her game
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>>576266026
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>>576264127
Surge would be more like Scourge. Selfish, has other ideas on what "freedom" means. Make her less a foil to Sonic specifically and more the Hedgehogs in general. Kitsunami is also less package-deal, although they're still bonded. Kit's coldness extends to a greater inability to express himself, and Surge is one of the few to understand him.
Tangle & Whisper are disbanded; if any two characters there should be a duo, then in its place, Lanolin & Jewel. Lanolin is the hardass boss of Jewel, who often forgets (or is too spineless to remember) that she technically outranks her. Mostly comic relief, Lanolin is the assertive but usually wrong one and Jewel is the timid but usually right one. Think Orbot & Cubot.
Clutch becomes more of a combo of Nack the Fang and Mammoth Mogul. He has more resources at his disposal and is more tenacious. Instead of being controlled by Eggman they partner up willingly.
Belle is no longer a passive-aggressive moper, and her tools double more obviously as weapons against badniks, almost as if Tinker knew deep down that he was Eggman but wanted to give her a chance. Tinker also left several capsules throughout the land with recorded messages just for Belle, and if she collects them all, she becomes a real girl: Tinkerer-X!...ok maybe not but still, play up the fact more that she's totally unique as far as robots go.
Not sure why Gemerl and Vanilla are here but sure, maybe Vanilla more of a mom to everybody and make Gemerl more of a butler who's happy to serve everyone. Gemerl you can have Tails tune up more often to give him more interactions with Cream. Maybe not all of Eggman's programming was overwritten, and had to be patched through a hackey method. Y'know what? Have Gemerl interact with Belle, too. I'm sure they have much to talk about.
Oh, Tangle? She's perfect. Don't change a thing. Except pairing her with Whisper. That was stupid. Derail that with extreme prejudice. (Whisper is not pictured so I won't get into that here.)
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I either accept i'm some bi half-faggot, or keep coping with the theory that porn addiction makes people gay because it's more dopamine injected in the brain (Or maybe blobian makes people gay).
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>The Sonic Blitz update that was scheduled for August 3rd has been postponed.

>The developers need more time to implement and test "one last thing" before submitting the version to the stores. The new date will be decided later.
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you can be gay only to other humans
mobians can't make you gay or bee
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>>576267860
>this will be the update that finally kills the freedom fighters
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I hear the roar of a big machine
Two worlds and in between
Hot metal and methedrine
I hear your empire down
I hear your empire down
I hear the roar of the big machine
Two worlds and in between
Love lost, fire at will
Dum-dum bullets and shoot to kill
I hear dive bombers and empire down
Empire down
I hear the sounds of the city and dispossessed
Get down, get undressed
Get rid of you and me
We got the kingdom, we got the key
We got the empire, now as then
We don't doubt, we don't take direction
Lucretia, my reflection
Dance the ghost with me
We look hard
We look through
We look hard to see for real
Such things I hear, they don't make sense
I don't see much evidence
I don't feel, I don't feel
But I don't feel
A long train held up by page on page
A hard reign held up by rage
Once a railroad
Now it's done
I hear the roar of the big machine
Two worlds and in between
Hot metal and methedrine
I hear your empire down
We got the empire, now as then
We don't doubt, we don't take reflection
Lucretia, my direction
Dance the ghost with me
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>>576246487
Like Rotor? Sonotor (Sontor?)? I got few comic screencaps to fund it.
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Fuck off faggot
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>>576270668
But we're all faggots here
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>>576253369
>They would understand because they can read.
Things don't work like that.

If you read something, the first thing you go for is the meaning behind it, and the first thing that comes to my mind in "サゲ" is Rakugo, since it is a term more common in it than "sage" from the web. So, what I mean is that this word already has a known meaning behind it.

So, a simple way for you people to understand is to put it like this. Think about calling a character Niger. Well, it is the name of a country, but no one is gonna relate it to that.

Well, writing in Kana is also a correct way to name her, but most people either relate it to the flower or to sage as an RPG job. But it can work with an explanation. Or just adapt it as I explained, and it would work to convey the meaning of the name.

Believe me, I know very well what I am saying and what "they" would think about it.
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>>576257138
The reference in her name isn't lost. Stupid. People eho give a shit are still going to ask where the fuck it comes from. Now pull your head out your fucking ass.
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>>576257198
Tails, who could possibly be offering you money for that shit?
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>>576270118
Maybe. I don't know much about Archie
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>>576271523
Nta but who wouldn't buy them?
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>>576264260
>JP Surge would be a tsundere
Nah she fits tight into JP punk girl cliches.
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>>576267762
>Lanolin is the hardass boss of Jewel, who often forgets (or is too spineless to remember) that she technically outranks her. Mostly comic relief, Lanolin is the assertive but usually wrong one and Jewel is the timid but usually right one.
This is actually spot on.
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>>576271570
Most people have no reason to. Only really GUN, some shady dudes eho wanna upsell etc would be after them no?
Rouge is interested just because shiny. Fang only cared because he just believed they would go well on the black market.
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Why should I do things that are good for me and stop eating slop? I love slop
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>>576270118
Nice what would their relationship be like?
>got few comic screencaps to fund it.
Can I see them?
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I'm mad that Emerald buttplugs and condom Rings aren't that popular in Sonic porn
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I'm mad that nobody respects my freedom and keeps giving me their unwanted opinions. I control me, not you. Why should I listen to your hate on escapism. Not only am I an escapist but it's the center of my media taste. I am a virile and masculine man. I don't consume literary trash for posers. This is why I like Sonic, it's for real gamers and serious people.
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>>576273619
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP STOP STOP REPLYING TO ROTORAIDSNIGGERFAGGOT IM A TAILSPEDO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT ME AND MY INCESSANT SPAM AAAIEEEEEEEEE
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>>576253434
You have to understand that just like Japanese Silver and American Silver are not the same stereotype, Japanese Blaze and English localization Blaze are not the same stereotype.

Japanese Blaze is an older queen, English Blaze is a young princess, Japanese Sonic is a shonen teenager hero, English Sonic is an adult Hollywood action hero.

Blaze would absolutely blush out of romantic embarrassment but you would be incentivized to have an interpretation bias against it in a Japanese localization, while that reading would be far more straightforward in an English localization.
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>>576274243
>Reddit spacing
I don't have to understand SHIT
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I'd like to order a straight femboy with thick thights, and a voluptuous girl sucking him off. Thanks.
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>>576274553
What if the artist doesn't know anything about sex and has never had it?
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So yeah, Blaze and Silver killed the Sonic franchise, that's my point and that's why we should vault them.
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https://bsky.app/profile/nikozaneko.bsky.social/post/3mmuh7xbxas25
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>>576274680
A bad doodle would do, even if it's totally wrong.
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>>576274553
>voluptuous
how voluptuous
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>>576274816
Uhhh like... muscle mommy voluptuous
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>>576275012
I'll think about that
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>>576273619
>Why should I listen to your hate on escapism. Not only am I an escapist but it's the center of my media taste.
>I am a virile and masculine man. I don't consume literary trash for posers
Pick one
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>Uhhh like... muscle mommy voluptuous
Shitver said this over Blaze!
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>>576274243
>Japanese Blaze is an older queen, English Blaze is a young princess,
Japanes Blaze is a princely bifauxnen. She is seen like "one of the guys" and acts "gentlemanly".
This is even reflected in her voice in Japanese.
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>>576275270
Sometimes when I want to vent out my emotion I add in irony for some reason. This is because I don't believe vulnerability exists and the idea that strength is inherently pro social makes me insecure.
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>>576275358
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And be sure the muscle mommy drains the femboy.
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And also be sure to vault them right after because they are both useless and awful mary sue characters!
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>>576275591
Reddit sexuality
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Do as this guy says >>576275785 even though i never wrote this post. It's a sonic fanart it would be a crime if we don't vault character like sega does after 5 minutes.
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Sonic and Tails!
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ANYTHING ELSE?!?
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Cute...
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>>576276189
Yes, can you please kill the Tailspedos coordinating raids here?
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>>576274684
Silver and Blaze in general are just very fanfic-y characters in terms of concept and abilities and broke the balance in terms of Sonic character ability types.

Before you had "i can run fast" and "i can punch pretty hard and climb walls" and "i can spin my tails like a propeller" and "i cannula my squeaky hammer to launch myself and launch things in different directions".

Now you have fucking casual fire manipulation and grabbing shit with your goddamn mind.

>b-but what about Shadow!?!?
Shadow is actually really balanced. Maybe even overbalanced, and ties back into the series core concepts by comparison.
He can manipulate chaos emerald power. That's it. He can teleport and freeze/slow time based on the number of emeralds he has.
A powerful thing yes, but if anything the writers have had to contrive plausible deniability for him to use that shit at every turn.
When he isn't using that shit, he's basically just Sonic in terms of ability who is good with guns and weapons. That's it. And his emerald powers exist to show Sonic is capablw of doing shit with them outside of his base form.

Cream just uses her ears to fly. Espio is just a chameleon ninja. Charmy is just a bee, etc.

But now you have fanfic shit like Silver and Blaze. At least Silver's power's actually existed for new gameplay opportunities. Blaze's fire is just for "aura".
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Having fun and posting your favorite character is "raiding" apparently
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>>576276309
AND HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, IF THEY COME DOWN HERE EVERY FOCKING DAY AND POSTING THE SAME FOCKING FOX AND WE DON'T HAVE A DIME TO COUNTER THAT?!?
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>>576275479
>This is because I don't believe vulnerability exists and the idea that strength is inherently pro social makes me insecure
Vulnerability exists.
Strength isn't inherently prosocial. But I would argue that pedestalizing meekness is anti-social, or at least encourages it
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>>576276415
Oh! Who's that heart for, Tails?
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>>576276350
>Shadow is actually really balanced.
Yeah, he's a fast as sonic, stronger than knuckles, can't die , can shoot lightning bolts, can teleport anywhere, and as of shadgens can shapeshift and fly. The only character who is more powerful than him is silver.
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>>576275591
I was so disappointed when I learned that getting fit doesn't make the breasts of women bigger
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>>576275358
>blaze
>muscle ANYTHING
If it weren't for her fire and the Badger, her name would be Sticks instead.
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>>576276689
For you mademoiselle
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>>576276415
>>576276689
>>576276882
Awwe how cute, my foxes are in love!
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Sticks should have parkour gameplay of bouncing off any wall, walk between gaps and mantle cliffs, and should run on all fours when speeding up
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>>576275785
Blaze is a proper Mary Sue.
Silver is more of a "bro thinks he's on the team" character.
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>>576276350
>Shadow is actually really balanced
You won't see this scene with any other character in any of the new movies
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>>576277078
>nigger joke
Silver has more friends and teams than shitaze.
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>>576277025
It's beautiful
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>>576276882
>(どきどきどきどき)
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>>576277078
>Americlaps make a meme
>It's about spicy food and black culture
You have to reminder everyone how your country is full of niggers every 5 minutes or you will explode
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>>576277246
c:
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Oh shit I'm late.
Tails!
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>>576277343
Hey, what do you have against spicy food?
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Tails Tails Tails the Tails always trans.

>>576277519
Congrats on your transition Tails! ^w^
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>>576276712
>Yeah, he's a fast as sonic
Yes
>stronger than knuckles
Not really. Any strength feat he has, Sonic himself was already capable of. Knuckles being a paper tiger is a Knuckles issue in general. Shadow has nothing to do with it.
>can't die
I mean, neither can fucking Sonic "I am the wind" the hedgehog.
>can shoot lightning bolts
Not lightning. Bolts of chaos energy. And he needs emeralds to do it.
>can teleport anywhere
Needs emeralds to do it. Number of emeralds limits to what extent he can even do it
>and as of shadgens can shapeshift and fly
You're intentionally being dishonest now to pretend to have an argument. Doom powers were temporary mutations created by the damn villain. One that is dead.
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>>576277669
CUTE!
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>>576277064
Sticks should stay vaulted. Her only thing was having a dumb boomerang that isnt even fun and gags that dont even work in the core universe.
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>>576277623
>Doom powers were temporary mutations
They will come back at any moment now that we know Black doom can come back as long as a single black arms is still alive
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You Sonic fans may like to debate over this.
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>>576277831
Tails made sure to do all the research themself before committing to his gender reassignment. What smart and committed trooper!
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>>576277159
1. Movie Shadow isn't overbalanced the way Game!Shadow is.
2. The movies nerf base!movie Sonic conpared to the first movie just to even have stakes in general.
3. Even with ALL THAT, nothing mechanically about Shadow in the movies actually makes him just better than the whole cast. He isnt even an immortal superbeing in the movie. He's just some alien like everyone else. They only make him stomp the cast because the writers are self indulgent hacks.

>You won't see this scene with any other character in any of the new movies
They did the same shit with Knuckles in movie 2

Expect to see it with Metal in movie 4. Especially if Neo is getting used, which i would be shocked if he doesn't.
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>>576277537
They say if you crop out your miscolored tail and awful filter, you can handle anything!
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>>576277194
Silver doesnt have friends. People befriend Silver. Silver is other character's friends. Espio is like the one exception.
>>576277343
Uh oh yt melty
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>>576278279
shitaze is irrelevant, and will forever be irrelvant
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>>576277754
She should replace Shitaze, she's cooler.
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>>576277823
This is as stupid as saying Sonic has super strength and stretchy powers because Dark Gaia can theoretically get popped out from the earth at any time and Sonic could get a hit of its energy again.
Youre being retarded on purpose because you dont wanna accept the truth that Shadow was actually overly balanced.
He could have short distance warping with 0 emeralds rather than nothing at all and would still not be op.
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>>576277863
>Powerscalingslop
Stopped reading.
Eggman has never killed anyone.
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>>576249521
what are Mighty and Ray's favorite snacks?
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>>576277863
The fact that he killed people is debatable because it is not shown that he is doing it in the games, but it does show that he would do it.

But besides that, there is not much to debate. It depends on which you're more familiar with. But in the end, Eggman is a man with a dream that won't stop at anything to accomplish it, even if it means "breaking some eggs".
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>>576278189
You can't handle my vintage!
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Melty? MELTY?! Is that ALL you can SAY?! I'll "melt" your FACE! How about THAT?! "Aww, spicy had a melty." STOP IT, SOPT IT, STOPIT!! We've HEARD for MONTHS ON END!! What're you doing? What're you DOING? What're you DOING with your LIFE!? I've had it! I've been patient! Is there NOTHING that can appease you?! Nothing?! NOTHING?! Does it make you feel like a big-dick to inflict trauma?! TRAUMATIZE THIS, A-HOLE!!! Spicy? SPICE UP! WE GET IT!! WE GET IT!! WE GET IT!! WE FRACKIN GET IT!!! Oh, LOOKIT ME!! OH HO HO TOO SPICY! WAHAHA TOO SPICY!! Spice for MY FIST in YOUR FACE!! DO YOU HAVE NO LOVED ONES?? NO 'SPICE'?! No? THEN DIE! YOU DIE!! DIE ALOOOOOONE!!
H-huff... P-puff...!
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>>576278557
Doom powers are nothing but Shadow's true black powers, they weren't granted by black doom or anything, it's his true alien strength. I don't even know why you are trying to portray Shadow as some kind of underdog
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Blazefags really did N.V Adams Silverkeks and now they have resentment despite not giving a shit about Blaze prior.
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Shadow is more relatable than Sonic.
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We all agree the Ifrit is stronger than Dark Gaia right?
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>>576278757
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>>576278736
I love him!
why are people obsessed with trying to make him Hilter?
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>>576279078
Don't hide fi'! face me!
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>>576278897
>Doom powers are nothing but Shadow's true black powers, they weren't granted by black doom or anything
You didn't play the game and it shows.
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Do Sonic characters job like this canonically if they stand still and let themselves get hit
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>>576279245
Because that's the standard villain stereotype for americans, I guess. Also, isn't that how he is portrayed in Archie?
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Which pisses you off more: Eggdad or Bowserdad?
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>>576279251
You can't handle my not-miscolored tail!
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>>576279512
It shows you said some dumb shit and now everyone is shitting on you
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>>576279623
This fox is rotten and sexy.
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>>576264632
Yes. Sonic is a far cooler character than the midget plumber
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>>576278897
>I don't even know why you are trying to portray Shadow as some kind of underdog
Im not portraying Shadow as an underdog. Im saying Shadow was made very carefully and thoughtfully as a character in a way that his derivatives were not.
Shadow is kind of a flip of Sonic on thr Sonic <-> SuperSonic spectrum.
He is a super sonic like that has to be contained and restrained compared to Sonic who gains and expands with everyone's collective wish.

The result is a character that is technically weaker than base Sonic in practice while feeling stronger narratively.


>>576278959
Motherfuckers saying this the same kond of weirdos who say "Vegeta is more relatable than Goku".
Its a self report of antisocial tendencies of anything.
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Which glazes Sonic more, Maekawa or Ian
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>>576279623
Fiona cuddles
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>>576279070
Can Ifrit knock rings out of Super Sonic? If no, then no.
>>576279598
yes, Americans need their villains to be literally Hitler because its the thing that gives coherence to the kafabe of the American myth since they otherwise have no real culture.
>spoiler
Even in Archie hehe wasnt full on Hitler at first. But yeah he morphed into that pretty quickly. The idea for him was more to be your douchy boss or incompetent politician you hate. But I guess those things get folded together in American pop culture in general anyway.
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>>576251753
nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJ03LvKIYo
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>>576264632
I have played nothing but Sonic for five months.
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>>576279701
>making shit up that didnt happen
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What if Sonic tried to fight Brock Lesnar
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>>576280348
WHERE?! WHERE DID YOU SEND THE AUTISM??!?
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>>576279997
Didn't Ian do that nonsense about Sonic being an unpredictable embodiment of chaos that just wins because fuck you?

I guess it comes down to what you consider "glaze".

Maekawa is more likely to paint Sonic as a person and character as exceptional.

Ian will glaze him abilitywise while still having him get jobbed out and shit on him as a person.
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>>576279616
Eggdad doesn't really piss me off unless they try to make him too soft. Eggman, in the end, is human, so him having a more human side is ok in my book. But I would hate for him to get too soft.

>>576280247
I never read Archie, so I guessed he was the usual standard American villain from the start. But I think the reason people want Eggman to be Hitler is that
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>>576277754
Than maybe you should gag and have fun with something in your own core universe instead
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>>576280642
I want to bed both of these girls at once and let them have their way with me.
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>>576279997
Maekawa. While Ian may ape some of the more esoteric, older lore regarding sonic, he really just writes him like a dopey super hero a la Peter Parker. He's a little like kenny, where he uses sonic characters to do the stories he would rather be writing, but with capeshit instead of sci-fi soap.
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>>576279616
Bowserdad was a strictly good addition to bowser with no downsides.

Eggdad doesn't inherently piss me off but it does when they overdo it. Eggman shpuld more be like a Tsundad-dere where he doesn't fully admit to seeing Sage as his daughter imo even though she's already wormed her way in.

Otherwise, Sage is a fun addition and her dynamic of pining for his approval and to be seen as a real family is a fine addition to the cast, and that's what really makes me care about it at all by comparison moreso than the idea itself.
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>>576282305
Ah yes, the garbage i have to filter every time i use e621
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>>576282305
I dream of hot gay buttsex but why is this guy's Amy a tranny?
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>>576281850
>he thinks "bro" is "negrospeak".
Deranged
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>>576282305
i searched for futa on male recently and most of it is tails getting fucked by sonic girls by krazyelf
strange, isnt it
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>>576281428
>He's a little like kenny, where he uses sonic characters to do the stories he would rather be writing, but with capeshit instead of sci-fi soap.
I dunno if i agree with that exactly. Ken is full on just using the characters to tell his own stories. Ian is more writing the fanfic version of Sonic he wants instead of writing Sonic as is, and when he runs up against things that won't let him, he makes the story a meta commentary about the fact he can't.
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>>576282968
Could be futa. I'm not looking it up to find out.
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Sonic is free like the wind
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>Walk into Japanese woman’s public bathroom
>See this
What do?
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>>576284048
Grope her boobs and butt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogeTHd9xgg4
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>>576286209
>You're the loneliest person of all
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>Dongbomu drew Miijiu's Sonic's designs
I'm starting to fear Chinese artists. They really behave like a hive mind
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I love my mirror neurons. The more you guys sperg, the more I want to sperg too.
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Rouge is not a whore. She is not a slut. She is a mercenary mind who works on profit and loss assesment.
She knows how to butter people up and is only a "whore" for gems.
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>>576287192
It's like a silent disco for mental patients
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>>576287270
You're gonna say Sally isn't a whore too
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>>576287516
Sally and rouge are two different world, altough you can say archie ruined botg because even sally was just a satam character.
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>>576287516
Even Sally is at worst just kind of a floosy at worst. Rouge just doesnt even fuck around at all. She just uses her charms to fuck with people.
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Do you think Luigi is a Tails-poster?
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>>576288268
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>>576222492
Is it too much to say I hate this dialogue? I hate this version of Surge in general, probably because it’s Evan writing. Like I get Surge IS a teenager with mental issues, but this dialogue just feels so… weak? Especially given she LOVES attention, it’s that “she wants it but feels like she doesn’t deserve it” attitude that I just overly melodramatic and trite. Like I’m all for a lack of self confidence in character but its that flip flopping that pisses me off though really “flip flopping” is the general issue with Surge.
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>>576288421
>Evan
What are Evan's writing habits?
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>>576288516
Olympics merch 2 years before the next Olympics?
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>>576287270
I shall ignore your message and keep fantasizing about her having sex with me, inflating like a balloon, and deflating by farting.
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>>576288694
Not that Ian is MUCH better, but Evan focuses more on emotional drama than action. If anything action feels secondary to her. Lanolin was just boring when Ian wrote her, a typical stickler character, it was Evan who turned her into an outright cunt which caused the most friction between characters. She wrote the camping and Soleil mini-arcs which are probably the most drama over action in the book. I think far more than Ian (if Ian does at all) she writes based on her own experiences, she said that was the basis for the camping arc.
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>>576287270
The only person she likes and has any kind of relationship with is shadow, so of course she's not a whore
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When will Evan write a therapy session with Black Doom?
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>>576290859
Evan would try to redeem and UWU-ify Mephiles if she could
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I bet if I was a woman people would pressure me out of being hyper masculine and tell me to stop trying to be "not like the other girls." I'm glad I'm a man.
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Acorn nation citizens watching Sally walk around
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>>576274243
nah she's 14 for a reason and is called,''little girl'' by eggman in rush japanese. the older voice is because as
>>576275392
said it's deeper to sound masculine because she's larping as a guy.
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>>576282305
Tails is so beautiful even women want rape him. Not me though, I have consensual sex with Tails
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Thoughts on this?
https://www.sonicstadium.org/blogs/entry/1622-were-building-a-sonictube-welcome-to-our-new-community-run-videos-section/a
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>>576292453(me)
>>576274243
in their dynamic, sonic is the older one, not by a huge maturity gap but he was the one keeping her in check sometimes. though she's variable as the situation can reverse when it is marine, amy or silver.
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>>576274243
>Blaze would absolutely blush out of romantic embarrassment
So this little so called independent no man wanting woman is a pathetic little girl who can't do shit on her own? a fraud?
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>>576292974
I think they should focus on they're web page. Youtube is so crowded now a days
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>>576291182
He will also ban you if you complain that the April for TMNT collab is ugly.
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>>576291182
lol fagget
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>>576288421
>given she LOVES attention
Based on what?
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>>576288421
I prefer Surge when she's loud and rebellious
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>>576289630
>I shall ignore your message and keep fantasizing about her having sex with me,
Feel free.
>like a balloon
Different but harmless
>and deflating by farting.
Pic related
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>>576290697
Shut up, dougefag.


>>576291231
It's literally the opposite actually.
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>>576293503
The way you put it is off but yeah actually.
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>>576293846
It will be a part of their website
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>>576294349
What i mean is that she farts out all the air contained inside her body. It's clean colorless and odorless air.
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>>576247053
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>>576296013
yall just wanna fuck humans bro
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It's over for Sonic
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Honey makes my peepee become the big peepee
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>>576296325
They better have something to announce here. All that's left this year is this and TGS.
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I love drawing asses.
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>>576296769
Me too
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>>576296540
I doubt it bro. At most we will see Sonic Pico Park and Crossworlds DLC
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I love drawing eyes
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>>576296821
they're so round and sexy bro
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Sonic vs Slenderman
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Sonic vs The Joker
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hedgehog boy x tentacles
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>>576292330
Not gay but why did she oil up her titties before walking around in a swimsuit? It's just gonna wash off when she dives into the water.
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Sonic vs Pewdiepie and the Bro army
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>>576297687
homo
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>>576296540
Sonic Team will have a lot to answer for if they don't give any news on the next game
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>>576296769
But only asses right? No farts or shit
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>>576296013
I love you Colono
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Sonic vs Gmod
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>>576298023
all ass roads lead to farts and shits
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>>576298169
I wish you were wrong
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>>576292330
This dude also stared at her in surprise
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>>576295667
But the intention is there and that still makes it bad.
Bad anon.
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Poops comes from the butt
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>>576296540
>"At least you still get announcements...."
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>>576292330
Didn't someone draw something exactly like this with Sally
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>>576298818
>>576298818
>>576298818
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>>576292330
I fucking hate how disgusting and shameless foids are. Fucking whores, all of them.
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>>576298617
Why are you comparing Sonic to some glub shittos? It's like celebrating that you are the smartest kid... in a special ed class.
We should be comparing Sonic to games that are actually good.
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>>576271061
I had already given up on this. You win. Well, I conceded to that other guy first, who wants the flower/RPG job pronunciation because that's what he used in his shitpost namefag interview podcast 8 or so years ago. Anyway, I thought my first post was pretty straightforward, but apparently not. Oh well.
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>>576300125
nta
but you're probably trying to teach japanese to a japanese person there
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>>576303482
Am I? I explained why I thought what I typed was fitting, and then I conceded.



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