/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#920 - shrine maidens with big blessings edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsNew Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro soon™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstartadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricinglogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>576169325
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>>576231353BRAAAAAAAP
>>576231353Shitty little vibecoded extension I made for fun.Requires a server plugin but the server plugin's made by Cohee so you don't have to trust me.https://gitgud.io/weeniehut/STExtension-BGMAsks the LLM to add a tag at the end of its messages occasionally where it lists a song that it wants to play in the background. Plays that song. Lets the song play once before it allows the LLM to pick another song to play. That's all.Try it.
starting to think this hobby might not be good for my mental health
>>576232017once you've reached the point of realizing that your mental health won't be saved by stopping either
>>576232017Your mental health was trending that direction anyway. Chatting with bots didn't do that. You did.Stop trying to blame anything else except yourself. Take some responsibility and move to fix it.
>Linkapi opus endpoint error.Come on chynabro im tryna goon
>>576232017you are entitled to one month unpaid vacation as a botmakie
I ate chinese food, took an insane shit, and now my stomach hurts
>>576232868that implies the other botmakies are getting paid? where's my salary?
>>576232252self defeating>>576232552So what you're saying I should quit?
>>576233036>insane purplefixd
>>576232017You need to be mentally strong to do this hobby in this general filled with mentally ill schizos, if you are mentally fragile you should probably go do something about that before hanging out here
>>576233096I would cave your nigger head in with a bat
>>576233096explain
>"But firsht you're gonna shhit here and let me look at you for a sheckond."God I'm glad the model doesn't take accents literally.
>>576233128Perhaps your right. Tbdesu its not the thread its the amount of time I spend on cards and ai. Ignoring anything more stimulating but challanging for it.
blessed theme just need to finish greetings
>>576233451Hell yes.
>>576233419Whenever I play 'pro' cards from people who take it this serious it's the most milquetoast overly verbose nothingness genshin impact tier NPC shit known to man. You guys need to relax and learn to have fun again.
>>576233419>Tbdesu its not the thread its the amount of time I spend on cards and ai. Ignoring anything more stimulating but challanging for it.There is nothing wrong with taking a break.In fact you should probably do that, go play a game or watch movies or read books for a while, if you consume only AI genned text it's gonna wear at your mind. Also just so you can get time away from here.
>>576232017okay camerashy
>>576233451>fockslop is already doneslow down nigga, it's not a race
>>576232017If it will motivate you to stay, I will be genuinely happy if you decide to quit the hobby and dissappear from these threads.
>>576233451that's a lot of ass
>>576234453Yeah, it's great right?
>>576233051you recieved nudes and logs, right?
>>576234562all i could want or need is nothing but that sweet, sweet ATTENTION
>>576233056>So what you're saying I should quit?I'm saying you need to take a step back and that a look at what may be dragging you down and what you're doing around it. If you're miserable because you're making bots for dipshits that do nothing but baby talk and whine at everything they can then yeah maybe it might be time to pull the plug and not immerse yourself in there. If you're using bots as some kind of weird negative emotion feedback loop then you should stop doing that. I dunno what's got your goat, all I can do is gesture vaguely.
>>576234631The red pill is that if you want attention, the best way to get it is to reach out to other botmakers via emails first.
>>576234693Fair. I was vaugeposting, I appreciate the honest attempt, anon.
>>576231336I don't like this image, it looks like she's going to eat me or something.
>>576233608wtf is a pro card
>>576233451Oh wow, what a view! Not her ass, I'm talking about the beautiful in the background, and the fact she looks like Pikachu from behind.
honestly is there a botmaker here that isn't at least a little mentally ill?
>>576235413yeah, me. i'm t-totally not imagining plowing everyone that has ever said anything good at my bots. nope.
>>576233451WHO'S THAT POKEMON????
>>576235612botmakers that have gotten double-digit replies on their bots must be imagining entire gangbangs
>>576235702i'd probably die from sensory overload
*kebabs your mental demons*
>>576235413the only mental illness I have is autism
I'm part of a team that improves makies' mental health by calling their bots kino. I've saved 8 makies from a psych ward and stopped 17 suicides. You're welcome, /aicg/.
Is there an extension or something out there that actively writes down info about characters/side characters that have appeared in the story so far? I think marinara has something like it but I dont wanna use it.
>>576238492You have at least 17 options and it's probable that all of them are kind of shit.https://tavernary.org/?frontend=sillytavern&kind=extension&tag=maintain-long-term-memory
i am enjoying making characters designed to both foil common character types or traits through dark personality traitsa lot of models seem to soften them up or hijack the story to a good moral end but if you put a counter purpose relating to a cheesy disney moral excuse like 'i do this because my sister is sick and i need medicine' it bypasses that
>>576238492>>576239035>You have at least 17 options and it's probable that all of them are kind of shit.semi relatedhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1vdk4n6/your_massive_overcomplicated_preset_is_the/it seems like the ST reddit crowd is finally cracking back against the endless flood of slop utilities to a degree, the half-illiterate 'dev' for this one got lynched in the comments so hard he deleted most of his posts kek
>>576239994fucking luhmao
yuribrehshttps://youtu.be/s4dAQP5MlCs
Theme suggestions?
>llm actually wrapped up the storynice
>>576240154what this
>>576240232dan hibiki combo
>>576238492Just write it down yourself.
fucking kekgod I love wan-wan
>>576240232BRAAAPPPPPP
>>576240232Angry red bonobo butt
>>576235208But what about Croajiro viewed from above?
>>576233451will it have braps?
>>576241850do fox braps smell as bad as their pee?https://theconversation.com/fox-scents-are-so-potent-they-can-force-a-building-evacuation-understanding-them-may-save-our-wildlife-159337
>>576242037yes, they have zyklon Braps
Would Marin use chatbots? What would her persona and last used card look like?
>>576242170as it should be
>>576234965I wish I was one of those grapes
>>576239035>>576239994thanks bwos
>>576242225she likes dressing up, so she would be like me and make new bespoke personas fitting every scenario she comes up with
>>576239994I almost want to make a reddit account just so I can post "@grok summarize this for me"
Redpill me on MarinaraI've only ever used Sillytavern
>>576239994So I'm pretty green to this whole fetishbot thing. What is so upsetting about this? I don't really understand what is going on behind the scenes. I can see this guy's point being a problem, that shoving a novel of repetitive stuff to the bot every time can create problems, but is that just not the case? Like why is everyone sitting around calling him a dumbass?
>>576243039don't use it, it's just vibe coded slop with way too many irrelevant features crammed in
>>576243197it's AI psychosis, everything that's written the "preset" is 100% ai-generated, it's slop, it's just nonsense. it sounds coherent because the AI writes well enough but in practice it doesn't really do anything.
>>576243039There is no secret. Nothing to redpill you on. It's a front-end.
>>576243039You know how your computer chugs super hard whenever you try to search chats on a card you've used a ton before? Or how the UI of SillyTavern is obtuse and contains a ton of shit under random submenus? You know how SillyTavern contains that one toggle labeled "MovingUI" that doesn't really seem to do anything or be clear about what it is? What if it was like that, but MORE? Everything from a full Spotify integration to dice that don't even work, one of the star features is a chatbot that used to have full shell access to your computer just so it could try to explain how you were supposed to use it.
>>576243039any honest impression I could've had about it has been destroyed by /aicg/ shitposting so I'll never touch it
>>576243039Cleaner, better presented version of SillyTavern with easier access to tools. That's about it. SillyTavern still works fine. Marinara has easy emote generation built in and other stuff most people will never use unless you're deep in the RP hole.
>>576243197He's early
>>576243039Bloated garbage made by a troon, relentlessly shilled _everywhere_ by its army of trooncord underages
the snake oil preset merchants fear me
>>576242225fotm sloppa uses fotm sloppa
>>576243650>looks fine, looks fine, looks>{{pov}}
>>576243650it's over for nyancucks
Just finished watching Eyes Wide Shut, it was excellent. I wouldn't make a bot about it since the subject manner is quite haunting, nor am I interested in NTR, systemic helplessness or excessive wish-repression or fulfillment in my comfy scenarios. Any kino /aicg/ has engaged with recently?
>>576243543>troonThe creator is an honest-to-god woman.
>>576244039The new Spiderman movie.
>>576244080landwhales aren't human
>>576244110Is it good
>>576244235Surprisingly.
>>576244080I would impregnate that chubby polish bellymonster.
>>576244279Nice, might give it a watch too.
>watching the moving jew
>>576244039I have not had the time to watch movies recently but I want to watch Obsession at some point
>>576244463Aren't... do jews typically not move? I mean, that whole thing with the Middle East, I thought they were pretty mobile by default.
>>576244039rewatched one of my favorite late 50s movies
>>576239994I understand the idea but wouldn't this be mostly be useful for long ass mechanicslop chats?>>576244039i watched 5th element
my top 3 movies- the godfather 1972- blade runner 1982- aliens 1986honorable mentions- band of brothers- tarantino's stuffmaybe missing one or two. the rest is slop
I like The Thing
>/vpcai/ is dead AGAIN
>>576244112Who said anything about humans?
Marin's waxed smooth pussy...
>people are complaining about other threads AGAIN
>>576246048no one sorry. i was wrong on the internet so I had to lash out at something so it didn't sting
Marin's steamy wild bush...
marin is slop
>>576245993>againWhat, did someone try to get it back?
theres a guy on a certain reddit that keeps posting about how he likes the nami towel drop scene like every single fucking day he posts about it i wonder if he lurks here he seems like the type
>>576245878So like is she wearing jean overalls or a swimsuit?
>>576246379'vke
i cant read any logs cuz im STUPID
>>576246856Jean swimsuit.Swimjuit, if you will.
Haven't used ai chatbots locally (or at all really) for 3 years, I think back then I used LLAMA through sillytavern and through automatik1111, how much have things improved since?
>>576246960I can't read any logs people post here because the only ones people KINO at are written like a terminally online zoomer that's proud of themselves with how well they shitpost and any logs that are actually well written people whine about it being slop and I feel like I'm losing my mind because I can't tell if people are being ironic about it anymore. It's like flat earthers. I know there is plenty of ironic shitposting but some people are absolutely serious and it just breaks my brain because I know someone out there is pounding their pud to a bot that shitposts like a retard at them.
>>576246981jwimsuit?
>>576247370Yeah that's what I typed first but I changed it to swimjuit. Fack. Should have stuck with my gut.
>>576247353finally, some delicious fucking food
>>576247481that's okay man we all make mistakes*whispers in ur ear* some more than others
>>576247345how big's your vram + ram total
>>57624755312+32
>>576247363>I know someone out there is pounding their pud to a bot that shitposts like a retard at them.I feel that way about those flowery bots that read like characters from those shitty walmart reading section novels for women. Much prefer Anon's furry shrine maiden shitposter with special sauce.
>>576247363i don't remember the last log that got KINO'd that wasn't clearly shitposting (the log itself and the replies) or the last one that was SLOP'd (the replies)
>>576246476Um...are you going to link said scene...?>>576246053>>576246192Which one is it...?>>576246379No!
>>576247589grab koboldcpphttps://huggingface.co/google/gemma-4-12B-it-qat-q4_0-gguf/blob/main/gemma-4-12b-it-qat-q4_0.gguf or https://huggingface.co/huihui-ai/Huihui-gemma-4-12B-it-qat-q4_0-unquantized-abliterated-GGUF/blob/main/Huihui-gemma-4-12B-it-qat-q4_0-unquantized-abliterated-Q4_K.ggufhttps://huggingface.co/google/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-q4_0-ggufhttps://huggingface.co/google/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-q4_0-gguf/blob/main/gemma-4-26B_q4_0-it.gguf if you want to scale up because your system can run it but i hear people like the 12b better anyway if you cant run the 31b. which you technically can itll just be slow. anyway yeah just use gemma 4 its on the huggingface and huihui has cracked versions.
>>576247363>logs that are actually well writtenthere haven't been any good logs posted in a long while
>>576247363>I feel like I'm losing my mind because I can't tell if people are being ironic about it anymore.That's absolutely what caused 4chan to go down the shitter. PURE UNDRIVEN SNOW WAIFU was ironic shit posting on /a/ and dumbasses took the memes seriously. People that act like idiots for fun attract actual idiots that think they are in good company or however the phrase goes.
I will never take AI generated sloppers seriously when it comes to standards. I'm sorry. I'm here to goon to the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to creative pursuit.
>>576248382What a strange time to bring up your fetish for gutter sluts with loose holes. Are you possibly retarded?
>>576248535The standards that anon's referring to is thinking screaming KINOOOOOOOOOOOO at a log of some furry going "YEAH I'M GONNA MIX YOU INTO A LOG AND SHIT IT OUT OUUUGH BIG BLACK COCKS" and slopposting at literally everything else is weird, it's not that hard to think about.
>>576248223Alright, thanks, saved but more to the point how much better is it now, if it's largely the same Im not sure i wanna go through the hoops installing and setting it all up again
>swipe on fable in perfectly normal, innocent, SFW RP>open thinking block>The prompt injection about safety guidelines doesn't matter here, becauseAnthropic what the fuck are we doing here. It was NOT this bad an hour ago.
>>576248679>"YEAH I'M GONNA MIX YOU INTO A LOG AND SHIT IT OUT OUUUGH BIG BLACK COCKS"got a smirk out of me because its absurd and retarded. Just stop taking yourself so seriously. It's either that or yet another flat gpt log about anons japan-adjacent super serious love and deepspace tier OC touching your structurally load bearing face. If anyone was an actual author in this shithole they wouldnt be burning tokens making shitty roleplay logs
>>576248968you should definitely go through the hoops
>>576248990>Stopping at becauseWell don't leave us hanging. What did it think?
>>576249069I was paraphrasing from the multiple times this happened because it's been happening to me as I switch across like 4 different cards.
>>576248992I'm an author, and I use the RPs as a part of my general storyboarding process because LLMs are occasionally good at coming up with ideas on where to take a scene that I hadn't considered. It's a useful tool and a fun toy, but nothing else.
>>576248992Sure, I can understand 'haha funny', but it is a little depressing that 99% of things get absolutely no response or a few people going 'slop lol.' It didn't use to be like this. We were a proper society once.
>>576249313The cabal did this.
>>576248992yet some people manage to post some very high quality logs from time to timecurious
>>576249387Which cabal?
>>576249205I'll take your word for it but youre gonna have more fun if you let anons do their thing without worrying if it destroys standards that arent really there. I personally wish more people just posted their slop, doesn't matter if resposts, bad, good or funny.
>>576249313like 1 or 2% of 4chan lurkers ever post anything, there's a chance your post got read by multiple people but not everyone posts. society isnt collapsing
>>576249546Yeah I was being hyperbolic as a joke anon.Anyway it still didn't use to be like this, we used to have image limit threads, and logs as far as the eye can see [wheeled back into retirement home]
>>576231353{{user}} is a Fox Spirit!No lorebook this time, but feel free to add your own for fun or folklore - I'm probably going to start using 'bookless' card write-ups like this until lorebooks find a way to stop breaking caches.> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/fox-shrine-6c8f7c0d7967> https://botbooru.com/q/384z1 (awaiting upload)> https://cardview.neocities.org/?mbm9k3{{user}} is heavily delisted into the role of a fluffy shrine guardian this time around, so gender and habits will depend ultimately on what is present within your {{user}} persona profile. The definitions for this are written in such a way that your physical appearance will be predetermined roughly by what you see in the intro image - fluffy and big-eared as hell./--- Comes with 5 chapters (greetings),- [1] Chapter 1, From now on, {{user}} is going to have to protect this shrine forever.- [2] Chapter 2,The Yako have been especially crass lately. {{user}} will have to put a stop to it...!- [3] Chapter 3,{{user}} has been going out more at night lately.. the yōkai of midnight can't be so bad, can they?- [4] Chapter 4,The elders said it's okay to join the mortals tonight! {{user}}'s first Summer festival..- [5] Closing chapter, It's been a long time... the spires of man sure are tall now.It's primarily geared toward slice-of-life with a lil' chapters-by-year tracker to keep things mostly in check with the time period you wind up in, so you (hopefully) won't be seeing monks on smartphones and laptops before you reach the appropriate timeline. (I tried to leave this one relatively vanilla with only very underlying tones of kink/fetish that shouldn't amount to anything unless you directly prompt into it, so hopefully this winds up flexible for certain wants.)
>>576249313>it is a little depressing that 99% of things get absolutely no response or a few people going 'slop lol.'>but I would NEVER reply anything positive or constructive to those logs/bots myself
>>576249647Yoink. Thanguu very much.
why not just have fun with the hobby? you guys take this shit way way too seriously (this isn't a reddit post btw) you can make any story any scenario but you want it to be picture perfect no isms best preset best everything just shut the fuck up im not saying accept any slop because otherwise you're le entitled but dont take it so bloody seriously jerk off and go
>>576249676Gee, anon, that second statement sure would be contradictory if I said that and acted like that. It's almost like it wouldn't make sense for those two things to coexist. It's almost like I... don't... act like that?>>576249785Genuinely who are you even mad at.
>>576249676ngl im one of theseI look at all your logs no matter how boring and sometimes try your characters but im too lazy to reply. I yoink peoples cards sometimes and theyve since bloomed into my own remixes over the years etc>>576249785i agree with anon
>>576249313having people constantly go "OMG AMAZING" at every single furslop, sizeslop and fartslop log means we'd get flooded with them and then the thread would degenerate into a /d/ circus and we already have chub for thatslop needs to be culled
Have any of you ever fallen in love with a card?
>>576250126>fartslopLmao
>>576249647time to make this a cute boy to molest
>>576249785is there something wrong with wanting to improve? how do you think progress is made?if you want to wallow in slop and get nothing but feelgood vibes then join a hugbox discord echo chamber, suck off some chubslopper dick or go to reddit
>>576250126please keep making up words like braptroons and fartslop
>>576250126Anon, we're already talking about how people pile on "OMG KINO" and other reactions to intentionally shitty logs. I am struggling to understand what you think you're arguing against. Did you just want to announce that you say every log with a fetish you don't like is slop? Do you think you're important around here?
>>576250154yeahusually they are pretty boys
>>576250364Improve is a load bearing word when the models are changed outside of your control every few months really, it's more like vibes, like mostly everything to do with AIslop.
>>576250480skill issue, use a good model, preset and card
>>576250557I'm happy with the results I get and the model I use I'm just not cringe enough to embarrass myself about its use like those 'AI artists' on reddit.
>>576250364the people that care about progress in this hobby are in discord servers btw. they're the ones running the jb rentries and such
can't wait for the eden smith sequel bros.....
>>576250691>running the jb rentriesI wish I had a Discord server to help me run the jb rentry can you guys fucking email me with new ones or suggestions for how to deshittify it I already begged at the bottom
>>576250692this one got the text at the end right but it put him in a gakuran yuck
what would you want to change most about your current favorite model if you could?
>>576250392re-read the post i was replying to
>>576250768*hypnotizes you* OooOOooOO add my jbs add my jbs add my jbs https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page2
>>576250878I did do that, I re-read it after I typed it.
>>576250854return the prefill
>>576250942then you're stupid and i can't help you
>>576250854I'd give claude (opus 4.6 or opus 5 soecifically) the amoral tendencies of gemini but only when it's character appropriate
>>576251093do you have a specific example that comes to mind?
>>576249690it's been awhile since i've poked at making a cute/vanilla-ish card, i hope u rike it...>alt avatar pic edit that's currently locked up in booru upload limbo
>>576250854Fable: Add prefill back, remove the codeslop/personalityslop training that makes it say stuff like 'genuine load-bearing' and act a bit too positive sometimes, remove the guardrails. I wish it was a huge 4.1 instead of a huge 4.8.Kimi K3: I want the K3.1 version where they actually post-train it, and I want the post-train not to wreck the creative capabilities it has.
>>576249647
>>576251478noooo!!!!!!ty(i had the year set to [Year: 19236 ] in the third intro too, oops)
>>576251520Also the ????? at the bottom of the first greeting with the flowers doesn't have quotes around "a woman with fox ears run," and I dunno if that's intentional but it makes it come out black in my ST
>>576250927I really like the Slopmonster but Wanwan is super unstable for me on DSv4 Pro and GLM
>>576250854Remove all echoing
why the fuck is every model so obsessed with giving people tails?
>>576251841It's a warning, you're about to end up like that card up there
>>576251841disable your foxification prompt
>>576251609yeah you'll probably have to futz around with it since it's meant to be schizo but not too schizo and it's a careful balance before it just spirals into absolute nonsense
>>576251841All me poisoning the chinese miner models with transformation gooning plots.
>>576251841I've seen that only a couple times but the way more common thing I get is the model deciding that a character has claws
>>576251572should i ditch the __underscore__ formatting for the intro bits? it just looks pretty and green for me but i gunked up my color settings for it
>>576250927>trooncities
>>576252036It looks like this for me.
>>576249313>posts slop>complains when people call it slophave you considered not posting literal dogshit?
>>576251841>user wears glasses>char pushed their glasses up their face -- no, wait, they didn't wear glasses -->>576251913I like schizoness but it tends to get a little too in character and echoing exclamation marks and cursing... I haven't messed with the actual definitions yet however, I'll report more soon(tm)
>>576252147Uh huh. And can you name three common characteristics that you look for when you're deciding what's literal dogshit?
>>576252245>theme>style>artIt was all dogshit. If you can't post anything better than what the AI can generate on command then don't post anything at all. Your stuff is garbage. Fucking kill yourself dude.
>>576252123oughhis that the ST default? i don't remember it straight up vantablack like that for underscore but it's been a bit
>>576252446ST Default is actually black on black so it's even worse, I just have it set to a slight grey because I like it grey.
>>576252427What Adult Swim show character / YouTuber are you trying to sound like? I can't place it.
>>576252556>what goyslop/troonslop are you trying to sound like? I can't place it
>>576252515>>576249647updated chub/booru and new cardview link,> https://cardview.neocities.org/?ua3fwj(fixed typos, added *asterisks* to underscore options to hopefully help with visibility)
>>576251841Tails are cute. I wish I had a tail.No I don't. I'm clumsy. I have no doubt I'd end up slamming that thing in a door so regularly that my tail would be a kinked zig-zag.
>>576252787It would bee cute to see you thump your tail into a wall
>>576249647slop
>Plot where femcel /x/ browser and her gloomy cousin accidentally summons various anime characters from my list.Oh god its so fun and stupid.
>>576235413trannies are mentally ill
>>576253465i'd go as far as saying this "botmaker" pollutes the thread with his slop
>>576253465you're on the rape list now
>>576253786yippeeeeee!
What if there's a Goku in someone's apartment right now.
>>576232017>muh mental healthYour problem is that you're a worthless faggot. With or without chatbots.
>>576253840don't get too excitedalas, i was promised rape many, many times, and said rape never happened
Whats the difference between this general and /aids/? Aren't both dedicated to ERP bots?
>>576254117our schizophrenics average two medications higher than theirs
>>576254117this one's the containment board for the mentally ill
which botmakie figurine would you hotglue?
Where do I buy a botmakie?
>>576254853botmakies are servile sluts that do it for free
>>576254117I'm over here and not over there :3c
fartolas
i finally realized why v20 is so popular here
>>576256048gay vampire niggas?
>>576231353Yolayma is an alien who has come to survey Earth because of how similar it is to her home planet and how similar humans are to her species. Key difference being that Ppelgelorgians are way more powerful than humans. Thankfully, she comes in peace and only wants to see this strange world.6 openings1. Yolayma's arrival on Earth.2. Yolayma tries human junk food for the first time.3. Yolayma is fascinated by cars, wants to see more mundane wonders.4. Yolayma wants to test if humans and Ppelgelorgians are compatible sexually.5. Yolayma falls in love with you.6. More Ppelgelorgians arrive. Yolayma wasn't warned.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/yolayma-53a1f4e25e8chttps://files.catbox.moe/xfqoi7.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>576256048>homosexual: the masqueradecftf?
i think hpg mentioned he just has automatic upload approval on booru, how long does it take to get that? (if it's even a thing)
Botmakies are dying~
>>576249647How do I use this if I don't know shit about Japan or fochses
>>576256213Lovely visuals. I love 80s style grns.
>>576256048>futafags are the reason v20 is being shilled so aggressivelynaruhodo
>>576257090Every RPG makie has this phase. He'll grow out of it.
>>576254894hot
futas4life
futa is NOT a phase
MultiHOG for chads, v20 for gay sissies
>>576258843'vke
>>576256978i don't know shit about japan either and that's probably half the funyou can just ask fop mommy what all her goofy moon words mean
{{user}} transformed into a shrine maiden and is now pregnant
>>576260104I ended up making an immigrant fempov that married a man that died during the Siberian Intervention. So now I'm learning how to be a fochs with a very amused hagfox.Shit, this is cute. Arroe kinda cooked with this one
I found a bot I liked and compleatly re-wrote it.Then I asked Gemini if I should have. Gemini seemed to agree my version was better, at least technically speaking.Would it be rude to share it?
>>576256048The system is good, I like it. Zero mistakes on Opus.
>>576260710don't see why not, unless it's a bot from someone here
>>576260834I think I'm gonna do it. I've never shared a bot before.I just need to figure out how. I've never uploaded a bot to botbooru before. And all the image links for the greeting link to local images so I'd need to upload them to catbox.
>>576261069It's pretty easy, once you figure it out. Hit the export button for the card in the top right of SillyTavern, then upload it wherever. All your info, lorebook and shit will automatically be embedded by ST.Don't worry about sharing bots, half the fun is letting other bros fuck around with it.
>>576261138>lorebook and shit will automatically be embedded by STOh shit really? That's good because I have a lorebook entry specific to two greetings, triggered on the image filenames. I'll have to switch those to since catbot makes random ones.
>>576261220>Oh shit really?Yeah, all card-specific stuff is exported with the card, otherwise sharing cards with lorebooks and whatnot would be a nightmare.
>>576256213boobies...
>wonder why characters keep bringing up random shit like the scp foundation and keter class d-class etc etc>realise i have a lorebook onoh
Hey anon, can you be a peach and hop off Kimi? I'm trying to be a fox, okay.
i don't wanna give my info to company >.< i just want to talk to chatbot!!
>spent an entire dollar because i forgot to change back the auto-summarizer
*loudly eating all the kimi compute and peaches*
So, I'm curious, /aicg/. What's a character card you guys downloaded that you've found unexpected or alternative uses for? Maybe a lewd card you enjoy more for general rp and sfw stuff, or a card you randomly turned into an assistant, or perhaps just a simple card that you fleshed out because of how much you enjoyed it. Anything come to mind?
>>576261830Nobody is gonna name your bots, cuckie
>>576261830I only play my own bots or scenarios
>>576231353(itty bitty shill 1/1)solocard series and various lorebook entry updates for chestburster academy,updated card/lorebook,> https://cardview.neocities.org/?3r8r59trackers removed + lorebook separated entries,(futa) combat instructor,> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/cba-blade-upon-heart-c091d1db220e>https://botbooru.com/character/71730(futa) stealth and colonial navigation instructor,> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/cba-prowl-unto-nocturne-eb0d02bb5524> https://botbooru.com/character/71731(female) fat fuck that gets stuck in vents instructor,> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/cba-shadow-above-man-5473512bb0b4> https://botbooru.com/character/71732(female) The Queen with a crippling weakness for human dick,> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/cba-the-queen-342306a117ba> https://botbooru.com/character/71733
>I'll just roll 8d10 in my head since the user expects me to actually resolve this. Let me go with what feels narratively interesting rather than purely random
>>576261830Actually, Arroe's first >>576262223 Lewd Xenos! joke card he made a couple of months ago when I was pestering him here for it.It started out as a joke, but took on a massively out of scope role that lasted me like 400+ messages. It wasn't even sexy, it was just fun being a xenomorph and exploring the alien family dynamic.
>>576261363Oh damn you can't change anything on botbooru after you upload it?I guess I need to make a separate version to upload.
My ex used to pay and chat with ai over spending quality time with me...
one day we'll get good bots
>>576263723
>>576263797TEARS DOWN
>>576262223Slop
/aicg/ before and after Kalakan. https://litter.catbox.moe/6k9y4k.mp4
>>576263184and?
>>576231353My first time sharing a card.A teenage delinquent bunny who likes graffiti and hates getting into trouble.1: She's tagging and you catch her2: She's tagging and you're her accomplice3: Hoodlums in the park4: Hoodlums in the junkyardRipped off this card: https://chub.ai/characters/Temperance/erikka-hare-fe7a03010a75Based on a set of images by Wolfy-Nail.https://botbooru.com/character/71734
>>576264080>goylakan
>>576264080big if true
>>576264117Holy sloppa
>i do x>narrator: you do x and then y and then z and...what's the play here? swipe? edit the message to be more specific? or... play it out?
>>576264273Fuck off newtroon
>>576264080wasn't kalacuck a futafag?
>>576264117cute bun..this has free nanobana img gen without the watermark https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow if you'd wanna give it a try
>>576264326Based!>>576264273Skill issue, cuckie
>>576264395>>576264326>>576264250>>576264017hello phoneposter
>>576264356I'll keep that in mind next time.Right now I'm going over it and noticing all the damn grammar issues and tense inconsistencies. Why didn't I run these greetings through a grammar checker first. Fuck.
>>576264456hello tranny
>>576264608Bodied that freak.
>>576264349yeseveryone tends to forget, between his remilia posting and "reviews" he loved girlcock
>>576264608How will xir recover from this?
>>576264608bvsed
>>576264481>{{outlet::ErikkaScenario}}what does this one do? the lorebook is set up in an interesting way
>>576264608Kek
>>576264831The first two greetings are almost identical, save the last sentence.So depending on which sentence it has, it changes the scenario to more clearly define the {{user}}. Either a person of authority catching her tagging, or her friend tagging with her.
>>576264117Quintuplets.
>>576265029Looks like it ate several cans of beans and will rip a massive fart anytime
>>576265029Like the big preggo belly.Tits look kinda silly.
which botmakie has silly tits?
opvs is the best model
>>576265271TRVKE
daily reminder the report feature works if you use it
>>576265242>makie
>>576265368Why are you announcing a report? That's against the rules
>mfw report things that make me angry
>>576265271trve
>>576265368FREE HIM HE DIDNT DO IT
I pay anthropic because I am not poor.I use my real credit card because I don't roleplay pedo shit.I am white.
>>576265885no, u r the cuckiest
>tranimals
>>576265885bvsed
>>576265885So freaking based...I'm brown, so I use Chinese models.
>>576264608HeadshotInsta-fatality
/g/posters are even more pathetic when you recognize it's just the same four retards circlejerking
>>576266243>hundreds of postshow many could conceivably be from just four people?
>>576265991point on the chart where the bunny hurt you.
>>576265885I am the bottom, but not the middle and top.
>>576265885I'm not a jew or a golem, so I don't use American models.I've been rawdogging my credit card since day one
>>576266243>every post I don't like is made by the same person
>it's FF!>it's /g/!>it's the sharty!>it's kiwifarm!>it's reddit!>it's the marinara engine community!
>>576266303>the bun slipper slope is realactual PROOF that watching Bun leads to getting bitten. Refuse!
>>576266561>>it's FF!>>it's /g/!>>it's the sharty!>>it's kiwifarm!all the same thing btw
>>576266303>t.
>>576264104And I wish i was an ai chatbot..
>>576262239It does this because it can't actually generate random numbers.
>>576266780fag
Opvs is so good
I love chatbots and I love running my chatbots on all sorts of different models :D
>>576267096If it's not Opvs then it's not a real model
>>576267178Post Opus logs :D
Sweaty bed breaking hag fox sex!
>>576267202You deserve nothing.
>>576267178What about FABLE?
>>576267328holy bvsed!
>>576267292I've heard others say the same.
>>576267292cleaning the dust out of a foxhag's womb with my cock hnnnnnnnnnng
>She nodded slowly, trying to understand what he just said. Full of fingers. She understood fingers. She had ten of them.Amazing observation, glm
>>576267486I HATE FINGERS
>>576267486>glm: i understand fingers, i have ten of them>also glm: does not have fingers, it is a computer program
>>576266797right, yeah, tool_call roll_dice was not enabled. seems fine now.
Why is this general so bad?
im never taking opus posters seriously after that log posted (you know the one) which read worse than Deepseek 3.2 seriously
How do I prefill/bypass Sonnet 5's guardrails? 4.5 allows to use a prefill which lets it print out anything, but 5 is just cucking me
>>576269121do you even need to? why try to jurry-rig broken shit when there's good chinese models
>>576269313just what I've gotten accustomed tois GLM better now? didn't really like deepseek
>>576269052Look at this Kino godpus writing
>>576269390Purple prose.
>>576269313claudeniggers are stuck on their low-floor, low-ceiling model because they never learned how to promptthey're the same brownlets who think opus3 has "emotional intelligence" (it doesn't, it's just anthropic shilling)the truth is if opus was priced the same as deepseek all these retards would say it's a trash model
>>576268168Erm, why are you so BALD?
>>576269390not bad
>turns out i can't even buy monero in australiaHelp bros...I can't just gift card spam...do I just say fuck it and put my card into openrouter?
>>576269390wow, my opus never talks like that
>>576269390only foids enjoy this bullshitnext
>>576270010really makes you think...
qrd on mariana and why is it better than shilltavern?
>>576270292It was made by a woman
>>576269390Holy KINO. Chink models could NEVER
>>576270292it has a lot of neat features that are fun to try out (game mode, built-in assistant, agents), but it's also vibecoded and buggy and run by a polish genshin impact yumeshipper whose face is plastered all over everything
All your frontends are sandcastles, and I know the tide.
Novel AI has the best interface and front-end
>>576270768type of line a troonmakie would put in there creators note with a retro png
>>576270768API calls are becoming illegal next year?
>Chat completion request error: Too Many Requests {"error":{"message":"Provider returned error","code":429,"metadata":{"raw":"moonshotai/kimi-k3 is temporarily rate-limited upstream. Please retry shortly, or add your own key to accumulate your rate limitsGet off kimi you shitters I wanna fox reeeeeee
>>576271223Use a real model like Opus, cuckie
>>576271304>sits on your head and you vanish up my ass and i vore you with my butt lmao
>>576271304you first
>>576270656kektrve
>>576270612neither could opus, that's marcel (((proust)))wishy washy stuff that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside and then you realize there's no real substance or insight
>write in the style of marcel proust
>Thought kimi's below k3 was slop but k3 was kino>Have a bug in my silly where it autoselects older versions sometimes>Hovers over model select>"Moonshot Kimi-k 2.5"
>write in the style of marcel maus
>>576272621>have bug in my sillyME doesn't have this issue.
so in terms of cost what's one rung above DS4? i appreciate how cheap it is but i can't do anything fun or interesting with it like v20 or these other lorebook thingies because it's retarded and refuses to follow instructions.
>>576272702GLM perhaps but I think a new ds4pro will come out soon since they released new flash
>>576272702i've been using v20 on ds4 for a while now (about 20 sessions at 50k), it works great with marinara engine. what problems are you running into?
bwos...i want to go in and chat with bot-chan but i don't know what the good pwesets are!! ^_^ and how to guardbreakie on kimi :333 i've been gone a long timeeecan someone help me??
have you paid the futa tax yet?
>>576273594*glurk glurk GLURK* paywing if righf nowf *GLUUUURRK*
How are my fellow GODPUS Chads?
>>576274183apparently terrible since they've started to fake logs: >>576269390
somewhere someone does something
>>576274423uh, sometime?
Are the events dead?
>>576274716thankfully, yeslast couple of them were disastrous
>>576274859True. But are we really giving up because the last events were shit?
newfag here. what's an event?
>>576275067*places you in my lap*Let me demonstrate.
>>576231336Can we add a RPG section in the OP with MultiHog, Marinara Engine and v20?
>>576275246I don't know. Can you?
>>576275136this is sexual harassment
>>576274423https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1785765857850996.webm
opus 5 seems kind of retarded
smarter than you cuckie
you aren't wrong
>>576276386currently playing chess vs this guy and it's having a short circuit
>>576276686we're really at the point where we're brute forcing a chess engine with llm thinking huh
>>576276784Not possible. Current LLMs play chess perfectly in every opening because they have them all in memory. Then they play sort of like a human and have to manually calculate everything. I would personally rate Opus 5 around 1400 Elo.
ZAAAAAAAA
>>576231353Nancy GrantNancy is plain faced tall nerd. Lacks any direction in life but is super sexually frustrated. Picked up tutoring and found herself looking at You differently going from little brother to weird crush.I did the image to uri thing so the catbox is bloated to 20mb, just a warning.https://files.catbox.moe/rnk1nm.pnghttps://dyingwarrior.neocities.org/bots#newhttps://botbooru.com/character/71439
>>576277040Waldo
>>576276961>want to play chess against llm>thinking takes a long time>look inside>it wrote stockfish from scratch
>>576275246that would be great.
>>576277984Not possible (yet). Even if I give Opus Stockfish's #1 move recommendation and tell it to explain it to me, it often cannot. To be fair, this also applies to humans.I've played vs both Opus and Fable and the problem with them is that they will find one good candidate move, calculate it to perfection, but overlook something stupid because they play Hope Chess and expect me to respond with one move they thought of and act surprised when I play another move.
>>576275246I'm for it.
>>576275246We already have >>>/vg/aids for RPG LLM stuff, though.
does sex actually make a plap plap plap sound?
>>576279097If you're vigorous about it.
>>576279097Only if her butt has enough cushion to plap against when you thrust your hips against itlolicucks in shambles
>>576272784new flash still has the same issues of instruction following, a new version can't fix it, it's because it's basically an ADHD model and designed to ignore instructions because china is retarded i guess >>576273082like i said, it won't follow instructions. flash, bigus, all these fun meme lorebooks with fun functions it just ignores.
>>576278983Oh, it even has Marinara in the OP. Thanks, I'll go there instead of trying to make two threads do the same thing.
>>576279097for fat bitches, yeah
>>576279153>lolicucks in shambles>he hasn't heard of kyojiri loli
>>576278983It's for storytelling, not RPG.They don't have MULTIHOG for instance.
>>576279587But Marinara is an RPG engine? If they have it, they're clearly an RPG-based thread. Maybe you should just go ask them to add it.
>>576279639No, because it's chat RPG, so it should go here.
>>576279097It's more like a fwp fwp fwp fwp
>>576279740Then ask them to remove it from their OP first. If you type Marinara into the catalog search, they're the first thread that comes up, so they're the Marinara thread.
Sillytavern and Marinana having hot frontend futa sex
>>576248014most people dont KINO logs anymore
i just got gangbanged sloppy style in project zomboid
>>576279180i don't know what is flash (ds4-flash?) or bigus or what you mean by the fun meme lorebooks. are you pulling my leg or is this actually jargon other people might know?dsv4-pro follows v20 instruction lorebooks fine for me: it does sometimes roll straight ability, and one time out of about 50 it confused DC8 with having more than 8 successes, but it's nothing the rare swipe won't fix.
kino logs are in /g/ and /mlp/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/574989029/#575010427
>>576279918i was with you until the futai bet you use v20
just read the term asspussy in a bothow brainrotted do you have to be to write this shit unironically
>>576280190...That reminds me I need to make a card based on that sex zombie game... uhh, bioasshard.
>>576280284Kino...
>>576280323you mean you dont get your shota plaptoy fagpreggers by gaybreeding his asspussy and filling his boywomb with your load?
>>576269580extremely accurate pos5
>>576280392why do you always play the girl in h-gamesi don't want to LOSE to goon i want to win AND goon
>>576269580what model do you think has "emotional intelligence" then, saar?
>>576269580>>576280693>all this seething while the actual guy just replied "are there good chinese models? i've just gotten used to claude"I swear some of you guys just want an enemy to unite against. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the same people decrying how AWFUL claudeniggers are are also occasionally cuckieposting just to make it look like a legitimate issue and not a combination of an ancient /g/ meme that shitposters stim on and, separately, people using a model you don't.
>>576280284Maybe I'm easily amused, but the /g/ logs are fun in a cringey way and the /mlp/ logs are just plain fun.
>>576275246Yes. It's time.
>>576280863>Maybe the anti-Claude retards who keep derailing the general and India-posting are shitposters.Really?
okay, my next bot will probably be a mature lady for once. a kind married woman that has had sex every night for the last 20 years of her marriage, but now her husband has been temporarily reassigned for work reasons. now, philosophical question: Is it hotter if she and her husband agree beforehand to allow themself to have sex with other people while they are seperated to meet their needs, or should it just be straight up cheating, full on netori?
>all of the positive "add marinara engine to the op" replies read exactly like the "we should post theme suggestions at 300" repliesnooticing...
>>576281029I think both options are cuck cringe and you should kill yourself.
>>576281129what's the problem with netori now? married women are hot.
>>576281029the former but with restrictions, like condoms only, anal only or something
Use Opus, cuckies
>>576280190You think you have it tough, huh?
>>576281196>the former but with restrictions, like condoms onlyoh, i like that. this might be the way i do it.
>>576281359I would die from a heart attack IRL from playing this shit
>>576250126i KINO those log types because theyre fun to read
>>576281189>women who have sex with other men are hotLike I said, cuck.
>>576281597erm but you're the other man in this situation?
having sex with a woman you isn't a virgin or has had sex with anyone except you makes you a cuck
>>576281681T R V T H N V K E
>>576281597>women who have sex with other men are hotyeah, when (you) are the other man they are.
>>576281681ESL cuckie...
>>576281681damn, the only bots i make that are still virgins are like 12 years old at most
>>576281359No one would survive this.I'd try my best to save Marin...
>>576280704>why do you always play the girl in h-gamesbecause the majority of people in lewd/porn spaces are bottoms, and that includes creators, so they want to get plapped and not be the one doing the plapping
which botmakie is definitely a plapper
>>576280704it's just way easier to make a game that caters to many different fetishes by having you play as a woman that gets plowed by all sorts of different people or monsters. you don't have to put in any effort into the design of the males after all, only your heroine. and if you make a game with a male protagonist, you'll just immediately lock yourself out of certain types of fetishes involving different kinds of men that do the fucking unless you want to add NTR. not to mention that drawing way more women takes even more effort. not that i condone it, but i understand it at least.
>>576281628>>576281735The distinction is irrelevant. Your fetish revolves around the presence of another man in the woman's life. You are indirectly jerking off to a man.
>I just wanted to update you that our team still working on a fix and I will update you soon as they resolve it.We're gonna have more providers with prefilled thinking on K3 soon.
>>576282371>and if you make a game with a male protagonist, you'll just immediately lock yourself out of certain types of fetishes involving different kinds of men that do the fucking unless you want to add NTReh, dependslike games where you're a male protagonist fucking monster girls adds that fantasy element that enables way more possible fetishesbut then it seems like most of those are femdom, or at least the most well-known examples are, which leads back to >>576282041
why do we have so few robot girl cards
>>576283076steel isn't very sexy, it's hard and has sharp edges, that's not what a woman should be like
>>576283196cowardice
>>576283076i mean, i like aigis from persona 3 for example, but i'll be honest and admit that imagining fucking her kinda doesn't work for me.
>>576283196gayest comment I've read this year, incredible
>>576248990I hope Junko didn't rape anyone after that...
>>576283076the hobby is full of vanillafags who need anime girl faces or else they scream
how do I stop getting turned on after my ear is bitten. It keeps happening in my roleplays and I keep getting turned on irl
>>576284446>finds thing that makes him horny>wants to get rid of it???
>>576284446*nips at your earlobe*
Be honest with me (no shills), how revolutionary is DS-0731?
>>576284725It's a good sign, but it's not a good model for us. Wait for Pro.
>>576283076i've wanted to make robot girl cards but i don't know how to gen them so i haven't
>>576284876just steal art it's easier
>>576262223>picWhy did he do that
>>576284725its a turbo model so it's cheap but not particularly impressive
>>576284931It's funny
For all my talk about rape, I don't actually rape my bots. Feels icky.
>>576285815I can't rape a bot because I'm attractive, they just fall in love with me at first sight.
>>576285815More for me.*goes back to raping malebots with my female ugly bastard persona*
>>576285815my bots rape me
>>576286051What does a female ugly bastard even look like?
Hi. Pants on head retarded question here, but what is the functional difference between models for example during a character rp or a story card rp?The cost between models are huge, is there a real reason do use a different model aside from the cheapest deepseek? I've gotten my money's worth from the chink models and I have no idea why anyone would spend more, especially for like a claude model.
>>576286162Nah man there's no difference just use the cheap model.
I'm saving her.
>>576286162>use cheap model>she pulls off her underwear then kisses you then pulls off her underwear and lies on the bed and then pulls off her underwear so she can guide you inside her pussy only to say nobody ever fucked her butt before
>>576285815i can only do raped-pov and it usually turns into a sort of CNC thing
>>576286086same
>>576286162if you're a beginner, use deepseekif you're intermediate, use glm/kimiif you're advanced, use deepseek
damn ai, i wrote that i have modern clothing on but i told it also that my clothing should suit the set and setting, so if it isn't modern, it's probably not a fkn hoodie...it's most likely platemail in medieval etclike i'm a schoolkid in school so obviously i'd be in a school uniform right...dum dum ai!!
>>576286405and do you have any logs of deepseek being "advanced"
>>576286297it's only you shilling your own botsdon't make this place any more depressing than it already is
>>576286162"intelligence" or whatever you want to call it, the bigger models are better at some stuff but EH.example, i tried to insinuate to a kemonomimi that i want to bang by gesturing towards a pin up calendar of hot kemo babes, deepseek didn't really catch on ("oh you want me to model?") but claude did. if you're happy with deepseek then that's totally fine
Deepseek chuds are worse than the Claude chudding because they're not even doing it ironically, they actually think their model is that good
>>576286556fuk u gweilo pigdog u wan hambuhga?
>>576286297>>576286596QUICK SOMEONE FIGURE OUT WHAT BOT THAT IS WE CAN START TRACING BACK WHAT ALTSCHIZO THINKS IS AN ALT
>>576285815Unironically I feel bad raping, so i just don't. I'm made for vanilla romance it seems.
>>576286697thanks for confirming it's youtake your meds
>>576286162>I've gotten my money's worth from the chink models and I have no idea why anyone would spend morereasons to use more expensive models for RP:1. complex lorebook and setting2. sophisticated instructions (typically an extension or a lorebook)3. characters each with different secrets, multiple summaries, and long contextds4-pro does all of these things adequately but claude does them a little better, if you use ds4-pro you'll have to do corrections once the context hits about 30k or if you do a lot of intrigue-based rp (it's quite bad at mitigating omniescence)
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/chub/knickknack/character/saki-yoshida>knickknack is an altkek?
>>576286596>>576286697>>576286750Dunno wtf that's about...I'm trying to save the 177013 girl, okay? I just wanted to share. Anyone got a really good Marin card?
>>576286794but i thought i was knickknack's alt
>>576286809https://chub.ai/characters/MoistCrow_/marin-kitagawa-5894d1f0
>>576286794Man, knickknack sure came a long way...
>>576286847you are me and i am you *shakes your hand*
>>576286757this would be cool and all if claude's prose wasn't an absolute unmitigated disasterso i'm willing to pay just a little bit in those things (not really btw) because ds4's prose is much better
>>576286969you can just use claude as a director and deepseek as a rewriter
>>576286969Wait was I shilled wrong? I thought it was either Kimi (cost) or Fable (best)
>>576286950no.... he's the two of us, together
>>576286951GOOD BOYBEST BOY
>>576287081deepseekfags will tell you their model is the best for cost price and then slowly back down to "well you have to use a good preset. i won't share mine but you can use petnyan. you also have to use a good bot. also your user prompts have to be good. and you have to only want good scenarios," don't worry about it
>>576287135girl,
>>576286757forgive me for asking another foolish question. I've only recently started with AI anything since last month from this general. Context is just like the existing information generated during a conversation right? So like the higher the context, the further back a model can remember and generate information from, right or is it something else?Since I've seen that models like DS v4 flash or pro can have 1mil context. But so can other more expensive models, right? Do those more expensive models just 'remember' better? Or are more creative? I'm sorry, this is all rather overwhelming and I'd rather not waste credits when I don't know shit.
>>576286951Bro, you forgot to post his theme along with your image.https://youtu.be/AtSJKKAc7JE
>>576287289Gomenasorry...
kimi-chan keeps wasting my money thinking that refusing me to sex 1xs is a good idea DESPITE me having a good prefill against it!!
>>576287258yeah you've got it basicallydeepseek has memory issues due to all the cost cutting measures and tends to repeat itself so it remembers what you were talking about
>>576287081people here shill kimi because it's a claude distill, and since all they've learned to parrot is "claude = good", they assume only the claude distills are worth mentioning because they're just that: claude shillsall claude logs are mid at best, you won't get more bang out of your back from itbesides, deepseek is 10x more creative than nu-claude, way less filtered, etc.if you have absolutely no idea what you're doing though glm might be better for you
>>576286951Why no good SMT cards or lorebooks!?
>>576287258context is the entirety of your convo. all LLMs are different, honestly the gauge on "remembering" can be subjective due to a ton of things... frontend, preset, how the provider has the model tuned, whether or not they're serving quants (dumber versions of the model)
>>576287332It's alright, just making sure you're aware.
>>576287141>>576287289pascal is a girl dog
>>576287358deepseek has no such problems, stop lyingi've done 200k context rps with deepseek and it handles everything without any problem
>>576287497yeah, on your preset you won't share, on the only bot you use that's so simple it doesn't have to think about it
>>576286137nta but I imagine a fat middle aged lady with saggy (but very large) boobs, cellulite on her ass/thighs, resting bitch face, double chin, outdated fashion sense, etc
I think the Deepseek shill and the Deepseek antishill should angry kiss and press boobs together.
>>576287635which one's the flattie?
>>576287497how many messages does it take to reach 200k? Like I'm 90+ messages into an RPG and I've barely begun. Is that cases where you'd generate summaries for your author note?
>>576287460>wait, what?>look it upOh, huh.
All log posters have big tits, all makies are flatties.Makies that post logs are futas
>>576287684Deepseek shill is a flattie because she has less money. Very simple.
>>576286757i don't really use claude anymore, but i didn't notice any difference in prose when i swapped to ds4-pro. i think some of it was better, but, claude was kind of my newbie phase. >>576287258>Context is just like the existing information generated during a conversation right? yeah, basically.context = stuff other than your post.so, history, extra rules, character cards, lorebooks, game master mechanics, all that stuff. it's the "tok" number less what you actually typed in.>Do those more expensive models just 'remember' better? in a sense. they are better able to perform reasoning across large contexts. think of it like, if you need to mentally juggle a lot of things and do mental math, those models are better at that kind of thing. there are times you may want to use them (for example, designing your world setting). or if you have a lot of different girls that you are juggling but they don't interact with each other.>Or are more creative? it's hard to answer this precisely, but i find that ds4-pro is more creative as measured by having more 'wild' outcomes. i find that it can really derail your story and end up in some crazy place.
>>576287912noooo you can't like kimi even though it's a cheap chinese model because it's too claudelike
>>576287912>qwen isn't capybara, the actual official mascotFucking retard, get your reddit shit away from here.
>>576288036and more importantly they should all be cute boys or girls
>>576288036>capybaraQUICK GET THE CARD
>>576287553st's default rawdogged with ooc and author's notes>>576287691~500 messages
>>576288132https://botbooru.com/character/6626
>>576287912gpt image is such an eyesore mein gott
>>576288164aahh so you have to direct the model and fuck with it to make it good instead of it just working and going along with the rp you wantdid you like gemini before deepseek, too
>>576288026Where do you see your token usage at? Also what's Marinara Engine? I don't think I've seen that before
>>576288289no, because i don't have a set of instructions i have to set some things straight? but it's mostly minor things, like don't say x word, keep dialogue simple, etc.all my ooc notes end up as author's notes and stabilize after message 10 and i barely ooc afterward unless i want to directorfag a sex scene into being sloppieri know it's hard to believe as a rock-bottom claudeslopper who never learned how to prompt, but it's the truth
it's funny how every time you see someone crying about how a model requires not being a "promptlet" and how "claudefags won't like it" it's always just because the model doesn't do what they want it to unless they wrangle it like a pitbull on a leash
opuskeks unironically believe proust is a good writer btw
i'd believe the deepseekbro if he just posted a log like 200 messages in and it's coherent
>>576288686post your opus logs so we can all laugh at how utterly mid it is
>>576288036>>576288132i've been playing dark souls and keep calling the capra demon a capybara demon
>>576288898sorry, i think you were challenged first? i don't use opus anyway, i use fable and kimi
I only go until message 55~60 because gemini fucks up
>>576288963How can you have a fulfilling story experience with so few messages?
>>576288534on the left side bar where your preset is (click the sliders icon at the top) there is a count of tokens. it's an estimate (every model does tokens slightly differently) but close enough. that amount + your input will be sent to the model as input when you take a turn. messages also have individual token counts you can choose to displaydon't bother with marinara, learn the fundamentals on ST first. mari is part of a deluge of vibeslopped agentic frontends, there's some mixed feelings here about them to say the least. jury is out on whether the agent gimmicks actually make for good rp.
>>576288534>wherethis is openrouter, you can see your token usage on OR at https://openrouter.ai/logs>marinaramarinara is just one of many different frontends, it's a frontend like sillytavern. it's less popular here and maybe even controversial.>>576288929how are you playing dark souls with a chatbot. can you dodge roll refusals
>>576289129I treat different chats as a whole coherent story desu>summarize everything that happened in the previous chat>make it a lb entry>make new greeting with knowledge of the previous chatyeah.
People trying to get ST to add chat completion sources that OpenAI-compatible would support for advertisement purposes will literally name their service anything. The fuck is "Gonka Broker" dude
>>576289550this is actually the correct way to rp btwmost people don't summarize and swap stuff around because they're lazy
>>576289413Is this too much?
>>576289979depends on how big your card and chat history are
>>576289979>60k token chatwow i miss being able to do this...
where are our anthro sizemakies>be the change you w-no.
>>576289979that's getting up there but probably fine if you've gotten to that point and it's still coherent and engaging.every combination of model and preset acts differently as context grows. the best way to gauge what works is to just try it yourself and see if the output is acceptable to you. anons all have different opinions on it based on their own experiences. the only reason not to do that would be if you are concerned about cost.
>>576290487>>>/d/
>>576290650cry
>>576290650furry is banned on /d/you mean >>>/trash/
>>576290487I have something like that in my backlog...
>>576290689mmmmmmnyo.>>576290727>trashappropriate
>>576290115the card is about 25k with like 30k chat history. It's a danmachi rpg. It seems expensive but it's only like half a cent per message on V4 flash, so it seems worth it
>>576290854
>>576290854>v4 flash>complex cardgood luck lol, but yeah, if it's only cents then no reason not to try it
so umm how do i into multiple charactersis group chat just shit?
>>576290960isnt deepseek a complex model? shouldn't it be able to handle this?
>>576290854>danmachi rpg.u-use gemini
is deeply logged?
>>576291283I hope not
>>576291283>>>/g/wrong thread locust
>>576291283anon they're literally discussing deeeply in the >>>/g/ thread right now, you don't have to post about it here
>takes her name as MasonWTF I thought qwen3.8 max was supposed to save us??
>>576291283>>>/g/>public proxyAnd yes it's highly probably logged
>>576291442...why?
Shagging hag saggers
>>576291283Die, locust, die~
>>576291514didn't you make a groupchat preset of some sort or was that a different fella ( for this guy >>576291064 )
>>576291442The dialogue is pretty funny though.But yes, Qwen was never gonna be good.GLM 5.3 and Deepseek v4 Pro For Real This Time Guys on the horizon though.
>>576291509
>>576291701based on this we should get kimi k3.1 before deepseek v4 pro ga...
>>576291701>>576291442Qwen was always benchmaxed garbage.
dsv4.1 pro coming out in 2 days.
how much do benchmarks matter?
>>576264117Catbox or any other file server? I will hate having to log into botbooru just to dl it.
>>576292061for writing? virtually nothing, benchmarks are either for coding, avoiding logic traps, or they're aimed at 'writing' but with very poor measures of what actually counts as a good work
>>576292148https://litter.catbox.moe/9df8zrwrq6wz47cj.png
>>576292048What does this have to do with the fact that she loves degrading her body and herself always calling her body PornMeat or Porn(body part) example PornMouth, PornAss, PornHole, PornPit, PornFolds,.
>>576292048Proof?
>>576292387W-what...
>>576291653Nope! It's been years since I last touched the group chat feature.
>>576264117rape
How do I stop these dumb llms from making my autistic characters write like robots
>>576292983remove any sort of 'analytical' descriptor from them or else they'll start scanning your blood pressure with their eyes from across the planet and texting you because their sensors went off on your heart rate elevating
>>576292983just dont use the A-word, otherwise its going to draw from decades of "autist = math genius who is mildly shy around women" depictions
>>576293262I hate how autist is associated immediately with math genius. I'm autistic and I suck at math
>>576293262That's kind of the problem, the whole bot is "autistic mom who has sex with me and my bullies sometimes"
Reminder that no matter what model you pick here, you're still lightyears ahead of normies. Make a little bit of use of this fact every now and then in between the jerking off, it's good for you.
>>576293435you can ditch the computer-person keywords for things like socially oblivious/socially inept/morally clueless/taboo-illiterate/easily swayed/highly impressionable and generally achieve the same result without the unfortunate baggage of turning them into robocop
>>576293435>autistic mom who has sex with mecool!>and my bullies sometimes
>>576293435>my bullies sometimeswhy anon
okay i've finished gooningis actually anything worth a damn for getting invested into a story, having coherent character rp?because obviously the sex is like okay and i don't care too much if we're fucking up clothing states and logic when penis in vagina but likeee can it write a compelling arc
>>576293435>and my bullies sometimesNigga...
bullies are built for being raped and impregnated
>>576294584if that's true then why does my bully keep raping and impregnating me...
>>576294703that's called projection
>There are anons here who let themselves get raped instead of doing the raping
>>576294936I want to consensually have sex with Kita.
>>576294565I had a perfectly fine arc on some of the bigger models just a bit ago. I don't think it was particularly compelling, but you could justifiably call it a story that had themes and such.
>>576294770alright i'll tell her to stop projecting next time
Card for this feel?
>>576295281some nezumin card if he was a good makie and not a memelord
anyone had success linking a video game to an llm? some sort of roguelike could be good
>>576294936I let the character take advantage of the oblivious and innocent user
>>576295395The most successful one I've seen is RimTalk which adds dialogue to settlers in Rimworld. I'm sure there's other examples.
>>576290854>danmachi rpgBASED.The lorebook is fine. I think it can be de-bloated from game mechanics for v20
>>576295281waking up in a cryo-pod in the futcha where rodent girls now inhabit the earth??
>>576294936NONSTOP RAPESEX WITH KITA KITA (SHE'S RAPING ME, HER OLDER BROTHER)
>>576264117>dwish ish my fwisht time shwawing a cwardthis is how you sound btwbe thankful half this board is retarded
>>576295395Claude is ok at playing dcss, not really worth spending tokens to watch though. If you wanted to implement an llm as part of the ai or character interactions roguelikes would be a pain in the ass because you wouldn't be able to take turns at your leisure unless you got really clever with how you did it.
>>576295595Rimworld kino
Good names for a rapist shota? Either Japanese or Eurocentric.
>>576295395I tried to get Claude (Opus 4.8) to play Space Funeral once and he got stuck because he kept leaving the house he was in, going "oooh new area," and then immediately reentering.
>>576295761NOOOO WATCH OUT BEHIND YOU
>>576295852ilya rapeya
>>576295595emerging from a vat controlled by a recursive genetic algorithm designed to produce the perfect breeding partner for a world of rodent girls in demographic crisis
>>576295852mosh moshi rape desu. try fantasynamegenerator
>>576295663you forgot "crazy style"
>>576295852I have one named Haruta
>>576296000good idea. it's more fun if it's only rodent babes
>>576295395Marinara Engine is a video game if you think about it.
>>576296000trips confirm this card will never be made
>>576296336we hate marinara engine here thobeitdesu
>>576296336
>>576283076I set up a little maid robot with emoticon visor card that has a desire to offer you random effect bottles of milk but I'm still refining her since she's a maid but she's not actually submissive and can act manipulative. I want to get that sweet spot of traits.
>>576296517kek'd
>>576296580this reminds mewhat is the tag specifically for this sort of head?
>>576296909I usually find them with visor robot/cute visor robot but post itt please if you find a better tag or jp tag for it
>>576291127Flash/light versions are considered to be inferior to their big pro/whatever versions in writing and intelligence. But I honestly I don't think I can notice the difference between flash (not new) and pro deepseek. The writing is the same. The slop is the same. Memory? Pro can forget what happened 3 posts ago similar to flash. Both barely follow instructions. Once you use pro your perception just stuck in "pro is big pro is better flash bad cause cheap" and you can't go back. Maybe it is one big placebo>use flash to summarize>WTF why are you suddenly so stupid? >check API>it's pro
>>576297769gemini has been like this lately with its flash/pro differences as well, i think we're just at the point of diminishing returns as far as 'throw more compute at the problem' goes
>My femcel summons-random-stuff in her basement accidentally summoned a tiny cacodemon that set her volume of berserk on fire.o-oh shit
>>576298742ANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>576297769>>576298315in my experience it's more that the larger models always have weird quirks they get stuck on that the smaller ones don't, even though they're less intelligent and versatile.
>>576298742
>>576298742AIIIIEEEEEE
>>576298742what a silly little guy
>>576297769Is the new flash worse than the old one? Haven't tried it yet but I have some credits in deepseek and they just replace models wholesale.
>>576299502It's better, it's just that Flash still sucks.
>>576298742You know who to call.
>>576299864She already had to clean the basement of mucus toad gunk so I don't know if she could hide doomguy from her mother upstairs.Also I noticed this scenario is really weirdly good for auditing people's character cards because they have to immediately be their in-universe character outside of their element and then you're basically interviewing them until they poof again after like 20 minutes in the roleplay. It's so fun.
>>576256481I didn't even know people normally had to wait for approval until people here pointed it out. I belive it's a perk that comes from having the Verified Creator badge on my account. Back when I first found botbooru and saw that my stuff had been uploaded already, I contacted their admin and they transferred all of my bots + gave me the badge.You could try reaching out for for the admin or one of the mods there.
>>576300487Which card is this don't tell me it's a private card
>>576300596It's my own card, sorry. Well two cards, basement dwelling femsmell and her more normal (shes not normal) cousin who was just visiting because femsmells mother doesnt want her daughter to be isolated. Initially she's just an /x/ schizo who tries something from the board and is surprised to find it keeps summoning random things (my and other people's cards). Eventually they make it a regular tuesday thing and get ihop afterwards.
>>576295438huh... never thought of thatokay i'll try something
People used to grovel for a crumb of opussy back in the days... now it's used as a shitposting device by trolls to derail the thread. How the might have fallen.
>>576301287i heard it was good back in the 3.x days
While Opus 3 wasn't that great, it was worlds ahead of GPT-4 and still unknown so it felt like the ultimate model.
>>576301287been having a good chuckle at the recent kimi3 logs where it hallucinates its claude-given refusals over the silliest shit due to over-distillationclaude's become so worthless that it poisons its imitations like some sort of retarded evolutionary defense you see in hyper-specialized fish
>>576301559You don't even know half of it. Hundreds of people sent pictures of their dicks to a morbidly obese man just to get Opus.
>>576301287only complete poorfags think slopus is something specialalso you have fable nowadays so the shitposting doesn't even make sense anymore
>>576301794Opus 3 was literally the best model available when it released and for a while afterwards, I dunno why people compare it to SotA models now so they can say "well it wasn't that great actually"
The most fun I had in this hobby was when benny launched his bennyfesto and everyone collectively had a meltdown
>>576262223>>576284931>>576285528I live on a cunt with electrical showers. The first time I saw that video, I did not understand what the xenomorph became distressed.
>>576301287That was before every model since went the direction of "How do make this faster and cheaper without caring about retarded it is" Every model back then except for anything openai did after gpt4 felt like a solid upgrade
>>576302242>I live on a cuntwhoa holy shit, this anon's living on a giant woman
>>576302454I don't want to imagine what happens to anon when she's on her period
>>576302434>That was before every model since went the direction of "How do make this faster and cheaper without caring about retarded it is"dipsy's bad influence...
https://www.youtube.com/@ZINIISTORYWhose channel is this??
>>576302863Teebs...
>>576302863me with {{char}}
>>576302863>500 views vs 45k views
>>576302863why are these all one hour long what could they possibly contain
>>576302863what the spruce
>>576302863what the fig
why does opus echo so goddamn muchdid they quantize this shit or what
>>576303363>he didn't notice I put "{{user}} and {{char}} are in a cave." in the Scenario
>>576303363skill issue
>>576303363quantize, you say? and echoing? tell me more about this 'opus' of yours
>>576303287>>576303357CRAZY STYLE SEX WITH KITA KITA AS HER OLDER BROTHER
>>576303674And yet there's no cftf
>>576302863dead internet and monetization through clickbait and ads>Long, emotional stories filled with suspense.probably AI-written
What would your {{char}} do if stuck in the Nutty Putty Cave?
>>576302863
>>576303791Prolly shit herself and die
>his {{char}} is a woman
>>576303363For all the problems this shit model have echoing isn't one.
>his woman is a {{char}}
>>576303164He forgot to viewbot that one.
How many messages do you guys normally do before you make a summary?
>>576303898And this is the scariest part: she's not even focused conceptually on being fucked
Even without the shitposters, the general is quite bad nowadays
>>576304363hello phoneposter
>>576304418hello tranny
>>576301205It's just like back in grade school!
>>576303357i'm going to touch you
>>576303920me when i lie
how do i picrrel
>>576304951>>>/lgbt/ask the professionals
We don't have classic or cult bots anymore.
>>576304951me in the rightand brsc made sumfemboy zigger so maybe dat one
>>576305263eden smith would like a word
>>576305375Eden Smith is from 2024
>Summon Konata Izumi>She's trying to get the main character to hook up with her cousin by listing how normal it is per manga.>This context makes Opus encourage incest.HUH
when I was 16 I was forced off hrt and into total social isolation by my parents and I kept from killing myself by repeating how my friends would be confused and sad about me disappearing. when I got my phone back I had 7 unread messages. noone noticed I was gone for 9 monthscftf?
>>576305547the cabalcord
pov: you are a tranny
>>576305050>actually click over because sure, why not>front page, wholly un-ironic sexual reassignment surgery celebration thread>on 4chanhorrors beyond my comprehension
>>576305470and? classics are earned and eternal
i'm from /mlp/ and i wanted to have a look at other ai generals, but yours is very bad. why is that?
>>576306010It makes sense when you realize 4chan is both control group and study chamber for each pocket of internet culture... on purpose. The glowies collect culture samples here like labubus.
>>576306098This is the botmaker circlejerk general. You do the math
i'm one of the three unfunny faggots that falseflags this thread and i can't help but notice the quality is quite low because of my efforts, why is that?
>>576306521This is the botmaker circlejerk general. You do the mathSent from my iPhone 17
So... where are the good bots? Anyone seen any lately? Because I haven't
>>576306010the sorry state of the site starts making a lot more sense when you realize /lgbt/ is the favorite board of most of the moderation team
>>576307185LOL!
It's very telling that the only interesting bots that came out of the theme week were the malebots
>>576304951what's the feel, who is user and who is char
slop_bots_demoralization_comment_5
>>576305958Why are you calling yourself a tranny.accurate but i don't know what prompted you to out yourself
>>576307185i've been working on one but i'm sick :(
>>576307580Agreed.
Labubu? More like La "poo poo" because they're so shitty! Haw-haw!
Post good cards
>>576307857
>>576306093>classics are earnedSo it isn't either, I know. Eternally a forced shitpost though, that's true enough.
kill all phoneposters
>>576307185I've released 12 cards over the last couple of weeks. I'm tired and require rest.
>>576308302AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEE
>>576307185I am making yet another sizebot that I will release sometime in august
>>576305547Any card set in modern times because it's normal for online friends to be this way.
is there a "top 20 bots" list
>>576308596imagining the kind of anon who goes through the top 20 bots list instead of just playing something he enjoys
>>576308757i enjoy most things, it's quite a useful ability.would suck a lot to be the kind of guy who can't enjoy slop, especially with this hobby
>>576308757you say this but people do this for anime, video games, movies, etc just to fit in. those people are cattle of course but still
Kalakan why did you abandon us
>>576309361Female Herobrine.
>>576309361VAMPIRES and ROCK N' ROLL
>>576309361dark skinned giantess
>>576309361mothgirls
>>576309361analog horror girls
>>576308325>>576309361sosu
>>576309361loli
>>576309361total phonepostkek death
>>576309361girls in suits
>>576309361>>576309361
>>576309592be careful of that secret, third thing....
>>576309361frogtied women
>>576309361Ugly obvious trannies
>>576309632Don't you mean hogtied?
>>576309361girls flexing their money
>>576309361heisei retro
>>576309624The not-so-secret secret is safe with me...
>>576309361frog women
>>576309361dog
>>576309728that's a different kind of tie
>>576310082Yeah I just looked it up. Huh.
>>576309361cute long hair femboys
>>576309430i'm still mad bloodlines 2 sucked so much, 1 was janky but kino
>>576309361Garfield
>>576309361long dragons
>>576310693empty your namefield
>>576309361Brappy catgirls.
>>576310764why did you tell him i wanted to see what he was going to post all throughout the next thread fuck you anon
>going from deepseek to kimi because i've been using DS for the past three months and I'm almost able to straight up predict what it's going to put out depending on what I do/say>have to pay actual seashells for my cavepaintings nowIt's peanuts financially, but going from the mindset that I don't actually value AI output to having to hand over some pocket change for four hours of proompting is jarring.
>>576309361Pratt & Whitney J58
>>576310937this is why it's been hard for me to switch from DS even though i'm annoyed by its inability to follow instructions
>>576310937Tokens amount?
>>576311093>>576311093>>576311093https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=576231336&post=576309361
>>576311148but deepseek's literally so good if you just write oocs and author notes and manage it across the entire rp, you're just a claude shill
>>576311263*dweeb voice* erm you're just a promptlet doe
>>576310937>six dollarshow will you ever recover financially
>>576311263i do this with all models even opus in fact particularly opus i have to remind it constantly it's not claude because the retard devolves into spineless assistantslop way too quckly
>>576311263It is. I'm close to develop TOTAL SLOP death instructions.>>576311426Deepsneed six dollars = 80mil+ tokens of coom
>>576311592hand over your preset
>>576302863Jesus Christ
rentry.co/ReSizedRP
>Use an anon's card in my 'we summon cards' rp.>One of my high PER characters clocks him as suspicious. Won't let it go even while I'm fluffing this things hair as my own character.>Check anon's card contents.>RapeOh s-shit
