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Overwight Orange Edition

Previous fat fuck: >>576462853

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-Official Undertale Museum Announced
>https://x.com/undertale_mus/status/2082662477477933215
>https://s.mxtv.jp/event/undertale-museum/

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

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fat fuck
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My hero!!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4keToT1jM
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>>576490067
How chivalrous
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>>576489981
Hoo...
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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What if Dess was actually cringe and not cool at all
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>And that’s when I asked him, “don’t you LIKE serving humans?”
>Dude holy shit haha no way did you call him a fag like that, in front of all TWO of his friends haha
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http://poal.me/i43b6n
http://poal.me/i43b6n
http://poal.me/i43b6n
http://poal.me/i43b6n
http://poal.me/i43b6n
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It's been 5 chapters Toby, when will you let Shinichi grow back to a teenager instead of vagueposting about the men in black?
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>>576489981
/utg/ you are on the firing line once more. Seems like it's a common occurrence these days. The only way to save yourselves is to answer my questions one (1)
>If you were to make a fangame what would it be?
Make it schizo if you need to. I'll understand.

Feel free to repost your ideas from previous threads if you've thought about them any more since then. It's fun to read these
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>>576490126
You drawing this? It's really good!!!
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>>576489981
>The story of Mother 1 is beautiful
Yeah all 30 lines of it
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>>576490137
...man!
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dreamt that ralsei was pregnant but it was with berdly's baby (?) i think i need to stop having deltarune dreams now
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>>576490067
>HERO_SWORD goes through the weird route and eventually breaks the barrier of the Mantle game and moves to the layer of the Deltarune game

This is foreshadowing what will happen in ch.7 weird route, Kris will break the borders of the Deltarune game and move a layer up into the Deltarune Program, where Gaster man is.
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>>576490284
It's only natural
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>>576490258
Don't make fun of George. It's not his fault a psychic alien cucked him
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>>576490258
That's like twenty more lines than Earthbound!
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>>576490207
STOP THE COUNT
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>>576490227
I wish... But now I want to draw so I'll draw something.
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>>576490137
...d!
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>>576490221
I would make a sequel to Super Mario Bros. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMWrc4iEpI
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I remember reading Earthbound novelizations on fanfiction.net. Time flies... It sucks...
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>>576490221
the cat tactics game by the binding of isaac guy but FRIEND and they are the bad guys. you play various darkners and rarely lightners as hero units
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Why would you ever skip any game in a classic series? What, do you have better things to do? ERPing on /utg/ is not a valid hobby or excuse, by the way
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He'll be here soon. This time I mean it. I can feel it...
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>>576490258
Of course I love backstory info dumps, I'm an Undertale fan
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Card Kingdom, Cyber City, TV World. They're all from the games in Dreemurr household, so regarding to Knight identity:
- First Priority: Kris and "the girl" (Dess or Noelle)
- Second Priority: Asriel and the other girl
- Third priority: Toriel and Asgore
- Fourth priority: Rudy and Carol
Dark Sanctuary (Church). They're made by someone who's familiar with Gerson
- First priority: Mrs. Boom, Father Alvin.
- Second priority: Asriel, Dess, Catty, Bratty, Pizzapants, Toriel
Knight was seen together with:
- Kris, Susie, Undyne, Toriel, Asgore, Ralsei.
However, this does not exclude them if "Muliknight" theory or "Shadow" theory are true.
Flower Kingdom: Kris' and Knight's fountains are identical
- Only possibility: Kris
"Original" Dark World: Knight existed years ago. This excludes pretty much everyone
- No possibilities
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>>576490342
earthbound has more than that in just the coffee scene
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maybe earthbound-likes have been a net negative on gaming.
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In the Deltarune universe Chip and Dales MMORPG is real and Alphys is a top ranker in PVP
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>>576490616
that coffee scene? the one where... yeah that one. the time where it happened
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>>576490616
Yeah actually you're right, and it is my favorite scene in the game prior to Giygas.
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>>576490702
the coffee scenes are those two scenes with the text scrolling over the trippy background, secondary-sama.
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>>576490215
Toby it's been 5 chapters please just show us who took the arrow already ffs
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>>576490221
Previous idea was a post-UT fan game where you, a bravery soul, explore a nearly abandoned Underground. Muffet and the spiders stuck around cause they like creepy caves. Muffet joins your (Tea)party and follows you around.

Thinking about it more, I would make it like an urban exploration game, and most of the danger comes from decaying infrastructure. You would scavenge materials, supplies, and tea sets to being back to Muffet's new setup and help the spider's web grow. The Bravery Soul is afraid of spiders but helps them out regardless cause that's part of being brave!
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>>576490780
speak not to me of the blackest coffee, busboy. i was there when it was poured!
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>>576490587
>Flower Kingdom: Kris' and Knight's fountains are identical
As a counterargument, we don't really get to see what the Knight's version looks like, only the part at the end which resembles the generic Ruins-y dark world areas seen early in chapter 1. It's possible that the parts of the world that are actually flower-themed look different. Plus Flowery cheated in the Floradinns so we can't conclude anything from that either. Susie's version of the dark sanctuary actually looks pretty close to the original aside from the colors.
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Daisuke it's been six games please stop adding 5D chessmaster characters who are pulling the strings from the shadows
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>>576490987
cute mouse
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>>576491074
*human
you bully
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>>576490207
Should you? Ehh... Its sorta hard to say as it exists in a weird state as a game. Earthbound exists and while being a direct sequel, doesn't necessitate the player to play the first one. However, if you play Earthbound I imagine it would be hard for you to go back and play Mother 1, just because you are even asking the question to begin with. So its really up to you, I don't think its necessary to appreciate the other games in the series, but you might get some enjoyment out of it, moreso if you happen to play it first.
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>>576490987
With every piece of Orange fanart I see she's slowly developing more human features. How meta.
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weakness is expressed when a person wouldnt fuck Orange the way she actually is in-game
tears and all
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>>576491131
*inhales deeply* MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE
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All eight of you who voted no in that poal are my eternal enemies and my spirit will not rest until I have vanquished you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8A-VFTWZM
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>>576490924
But what's on my mind at this moment isn't the coffee in my kitchen
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Nintendo games are actually too difficult and don’t provide enough brightly colored stimmies for poser newgens.
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In retrospect it makes sense mad dummy is toby's favourite miniboss
The guy is straight up an earthbound enemy with the whole "mad inanimate object" and his song is 60% earthbound soundfont and then the whole catgirl anime thing is also up toby's aley as he is a major weeb
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>>576490258
Having recently started playing mother 1 in earnest for the first time since high school and actually making it all the way to Ellay there's a lot to appreciate about the game. I think saying earthbound "replaces" it is wrong, they're distinct experiences that have lovingly crafted worlds even if they're both rough around the edges. Mother 1 definitely has a lot of flaws but I think the overall experience is worth it, it's not like earthbound doesn't also have its low points
>>576490770
The coffee/hot springs breaks to me are the emotional core of Mother 2. However, several of my favorite scenes in mother 3 are more about the visuals and emotional tension... Flint at the campfire for one...
>>576491027
Actually he should do that for another 30 years and also Baiken should be the main character now please please please
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>>576491380
friend, do i have a nintendo series for you
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ralsei cutie pretty angel
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>>576491380
F-Zero series, Mother 1, and Mike Tyson are like the only difficult things ever in Nintendo games
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>>576491504
metaknight would ruin kris
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>>576491579
bro your Lost Levels?
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>>576491494
Kirby bosses are too difficult for poser newgens
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>Thrash machine is seen as a parallel to Vessel
>We made it from different choices and then our choices were discarded.
>The Thrash machine later appeared for realsies, and the Vessel is also implied to return considering it's saved in the files
>In ch.3, one of Tenna's questions involes the Thrash Machine and whether you can properly remember how you made it.

Be honest gang, can you remember what you put for your vessel?
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>>576491410
With distance from Undertale's heavy anime references I thought Toby tuned back the whole weeb thing and started to lean into furry crap with Ralsei, Tasque Manager, etc. But chapter 5 was a clear reminder of who Toby is.
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>>576491261
big human ears
human tail
human hands
orange skin

its a human
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How is Susie planning to invite Noelle to Castle Town when she's likely grieving over her father's deteriorating health?
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>>576491380
You are in the general for a character-focused narrative game in the vein of Final Fantasy, completely anathema to the Nintendo ethos
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>>576491713
>pats shoulder
>gropes ass
>"Ah suck it up toots, let's ditch these losers and go to my joint"
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>>576491670
Yeah? It's not like I haven't played Chapter 1 since 2018. I played it again like, last week.
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>>576491636
Replaced by Super Mario Bros 2 USA.
Just like how Earthbound replaced Mother 1.
:3
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>>576491670
Bald cause I want the serious moment of the vessel appearing to be undercut by a goofy as hell appearance.
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>>576491670
I pick the same vessel options for every replay so yes
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>>576491670
My vessel, I feared you. I replaced you with Kris. Forgive me. If I ever find you I will train you to make pizza and together we will defeat Ice-E
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>>576491545
I was JUST thinking about that really good Queen laugh, and here you are
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>>576491737
if you don't understand the deep character driven pathos of Donkey Kong 64 I don't know what to tell you
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>>576489981
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>>576491572
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>>576491636
Lost Levels are just clunky.
I would have said Ninja Gaiden or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUaLw5qqOHE
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>>576491798
Here's a pity (You), don't spend it all in one place
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I wish I could draw

Vehicles

Holy SHIT how do people keep track of all these makes I’m like car racist
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>>576491919
i hope he gets a happy ending…
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Maybe the Mother series would be actually good if it had multiclassing
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>>576491737
I didn't even mean Nintendo as in the company, I mean the Nintendo as in the game system. Retard.
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oh hey, /v/ has woken up
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>>576491886
The deep pathos of sucking ass

>>576491959
3d models
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>>576492009
V has come to
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>>576491572
true
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>>576491887
Did you make this? It's a work of art
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>>576492031
save the day linkbutbluejah
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It's so sad that Toby Fox made a game about art being interpretive and things having multiple meanings for an audience that only sees things in black & white.
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>>576490879
Wow anon, that idea is really cool and Muffet is my big favorite too and I'm definitely not same fagging my own post to feel something.

Post Muffets.
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>>576491579
mother 1 isn't difficult it's just unbalanced.
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>>576491670
>Be honest gang, can you remember what you put for your vessel?
No and I think the point is you're supposed to forget a little. I could totally see there being a scene in the "meat factory" where we get to see several pods of randomized vessels and one of them is the one we made and we watch it come out of the pod after Kris leaves the room
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>>576492009
/v/ doesn't talk about video games, this is pure /utg/
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>>576490879
It's a cool concept anon. Muffet is in such a weird spot because she's that kickstarter backer's character. She needs to be rehomed to a fangame for sure
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>>576492046
i think noelle will be the angel but i dont mind it being ralsei either
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>>576492148
I'm scared for the players who put Pain as its favorite flavor
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what if Dess is a mouse, that pretends to be a human pretending to be a monster, so that Elly doesn't get scared of her
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>>576492235
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>>576492235
The final prophecy is that Susie is transformed into a mouse and Noelle is scared of her
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>>576492093
>only sees things in black & white
Oh I get it! Copies are monochrome AKA the player has a black vs white mentality. But they're colored in with care from the player thinking with nuance!
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>>576492232
Wake up and smell the PAIN
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I never questioned this until now.
Why is New Home monochrome?
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>>576492456
It's a copy of Home (the ruins)
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>AAAAAARGH WHY DID I PUT IN THAT I FEEL DISGUST FOR MY VESSEL I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GONNA COME UP AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>576492349
and susie put so much emphasis on the fact that ralsei OBVIOUSLY wouldn't let that happen because he's racist against mice! it all makes perfect sense now
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>>576492093
More like in blue and p~ *gets dragged off to torture chambers*
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>>576492496
Why didn't Asgore paint in colors?
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>>576492456
Nobody filled it with care or something
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I dont remember my vessel
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>>576492560
more like pluey
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>>576492212
Thank you, Anon. One day, she'll be adopted and housed in a lovely fan game.
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>>576487145
>>576487345
>>576487501
I wonder if chapter 6 is gonna be when Toby delves into the deeper implications of darkner society.
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>>576492614
that's my vessel(male)
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I genuinely would rather Deltarune never released incrementally and we simply got the full game at once.
I don't care if the WAIT journey was fun because the yearly episodic release does negatively impact Deltarune as a work of art.
I would sacrifice all the good times we had for Deltarune to have been a full game from the getgo. MAYBE with a weekly chapter release structure so we have time to discuss and theorize, but without making us wait years for story updates making players go schizo and making up a version of Deltarune in their head.
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Chapter 5 is literally perfect. I can't imagine the game can get any better from here. How does he keep knocking it out of the park like this?
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can all our vessels have one massive orgy
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>>576492093
>Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
>>576492586
The interiors have color, but at a distance you can see the lack of color in the wider landscape. On a narrative level, the lack of color and vibrance in new home reflect Asgore's life without his family. The only things that have color in his home are the flowers that are a reminder and symbol of his family's brief time together.
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>>576490325
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what if the humans in UT trapped monsters in the dark world instead?
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>Orange, who do you like better? Your big brother, or your big sister?
>What?! I... I like both...!
>Nope, that's not the question! You have to pick, one or the other!
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>>576492614
>silent cheer routine for the Soul with only the pompoms rustling slightly
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>>576492657
Chapter 5 has a little bit of this with flowery taunting susie about castletown
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>>576492930
>YOU ARE FILLED WITH DETERMINATION
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>>576492929
Evil goat
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>>576490587
>Flower Kingdom: Kris' and Knight's fountains are identical
>- Only possibility: Kris
Isn't that because the fountain was opened and closed so quickly it didn't have time to reform? like how in chapter 4 there was another fountain opened up
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Fun Deltarune Fact: in this section you selected if you wanted your vessel to have penis A, penis B, vagina or both.
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>>576492762
Art does get super fucked over by incremental releases and nobody will ever convince me otherwise, but I do think that what we have now is very much structured around being incremental, and the game we would've gotten otherwise would've had much less stuff in it.
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>>576493078
kek so there are only 2 options?
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me and toby the only dudes who like mother 1
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>>576493078
It wouldn't surprise me if the reality is that we have no genitals at all.
We are a nothing/null
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yfw your vessel heard everything about it during the survey and now hates you?
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Assuming dess isn't the knight, do you think a fangame of vessel and dess against friend/gaster in the shelter could work?
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I made my grey daughter into a whore.
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>...
>Hey, when you're done getting your ass kicked down here, remember to come up to my place and get thrashed again, okay?
>Yes sir, Flowery sir!
>Holy shit, is that the golden flower guy? The leader?
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>>576493217
Gaster is her second dad, did you ask him first?
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Why so many people vesselposting all of a sudden
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ayo goat sissy we need a new poal make us a new poal
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>>576493286
He's not her dad anymore ever since he let her get kidnapped.
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>>576492929
psychological warfare ralsei my beloved
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>>576492614
That my vessel (female)
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I'm Dark Fave. I'm the opposite of Fave in everyway. I hate molesting children.
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>>576492376
Take that! Taste the pain!
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>>576493432
Blue (opposite of pink)...
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DESS is MOLESTING our VESSELS in the SHELTER at THIS very MOMENT
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>>576493354
and what should I make it about? how many cocks you want to suck at once?
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>>576493310
why not?
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>>576493401
what caused this expression?
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>>576493058
>>576493401
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>>576493552
actually yes
i want to see how freaky utg is right now
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>>576493495
I love kralsei art where kris gremlins out on ralsei
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>>576493558
I'm not against it
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>>576493310
We must further the autistic grey child agenda
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>>576493536
HEY! Only we can do that as their father/mother!
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>>576493597
Kris said Flowery is atleast honest
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>>576493552
do it little goat sissy you WON'T you don't HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THIS POAL....... kiddo
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>>576493552
Mother 1 - 0%
Sassy Ralsei Correction - 100%
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>>576482684
human susie got me feeling a certain way
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>>576493195
That's already Kris so no change.
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good old poal
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I feel hope
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>>576493870
i did not answer honestly
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The Vessel is our humble servant.
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>>576493714
Do you have ANY IDEA of what would happen if I make that poll? EVERYTHING WILL FALL APART!
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>>576493925
Kris gets to fuck and impregnate THIS!?!?!??! ZAMN!!!!!!!!!
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really love that one ralsei sprite where it looks like he’s judging whoever he’s talking to and somewhat appalled by whatever they said
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Threads have been great today, good job everyone.
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Ralsei is a trans girl btw
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live laugh love kris
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>>576493984
all me btw
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>>576493925
Gaster gave you the big boobs option for your vessel? All I got was the option for foreskin on/off.
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>>576494050
fuck off Noel
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>Saw my art getting reposted in another website
>Check the comments
>They call me a gooner because I gave Susie boobs
It's so fucking over
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https://poal.me/y2dpge
https://poal.me/y2dpge
https://poal.me/y2dpge
https://poal.me/y2dpge
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>>576493983
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It makes me uncomfortable that Flowery flirts with Ralsei in chapter five. Flowery is a grown man and Ralsei is literally a child.
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>>576493934
whatevr we need a new poal we are starving
get to work
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>>576494129
it’s not this one… though this one is very peak
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>>576494093
No, I added it in since my Vessel asked for it so kindly :)
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>>576494128
he's mine
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>>576494128
all of these are good (barring clovesei which is ?) but kralsei yaoi ver >>>
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look at this cutie patootie
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>>576494157
If we're going to apply human sexual ethics to a relationship between a golden flower and a double-imaginary magic goat monster, I would say they seem to be intellectual equals, even if Ralsei is of a more meek disposition.
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>>576493074
>Isn't that because the fountain was opened and closed so quickly it didn't have time to reform?
There's no reason to believe that. Susie's Sanctuary looks like the Knight's because her version of the dark world is naturally informed by what she just saw but the actual darkness and finer details are still different, down to the lighting being different enough to change what colors each or the characters appear to be. Susie and Kris are "on the same wavelength" generally yet they produce different enough types of darkness to visually notice. We get to see the types of darkness Kris and the knight produce back to back and there is absolutely 0 visual difference. The structures of the castle and visuals of the garden segments are also identical, no variations in color or patterns like Susie's Sanctuary vs the Knight's Sanctuary. It's eery, it's uncanny and it's the kind of thing that should lead a viewer to ask: "why?"
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Pinkris should be a cute ship but you here make it diddy blud tranny grooming minor.
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>>576494291
Clovsei is Chapter 1-era gold.
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>>576494291
Chapter 1 era vintage primo fan-shipping GOLD.
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>>576494336
dont reply to bait baby
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>>576494336
NTA, but "intellectual equals" is kind of a vague phrase, to be honest. There are really smart kids out there who can do math better than any adult, doesn't really mean they're old enough to fuck.
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>>576494465
>>576494379
i can't get into feral x humanoid stuff or feral in general. my furry level is very low
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Ralsei is thousands or possibly millions of years old because that's when the meteor landed on earth
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>>576494465

GOLD!!!!!
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>>576494157
Problematic gaps in relationships isn't uncommon nor an issue in tobysoft stories thankfully
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>>576494615
My fiery heart burns GOLDEN!!!
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I don't like looking at kisses it makes me want to kiss someone
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>>576494513
Well, there's not really much else to go by when it comes to fictional characters of entirely different nature and species. Like, what, do we believe Ralsei's physical brain has not developed to the same extent as an 18 year old human's? That he's at some kind of power disadvantage with Flowery, who he could kill instantly?
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>>576494767
Last one. My GOLDEN heart has no more saved Clovsei.
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I must go to bed now I'm sorry, I could not wait
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aughghgh.... krusie...
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Do this many people actually like Kralsei? But it's so boring. Everything people say about Suselle applies even more strongly to Kralsei.
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I love fish
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>>576494479
>gaged ears
why tf people do this dumbass shit to themselves?
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i have a basic understanding of music theory, but sound design is too much for me...what if i just use presets..?
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>>576495024
you just don't get it
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>>576495024
Yeah the part where it's not a boy and a girl really grinds your gears doesn't it
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>>576495085
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>>576495024
It's subtle misogyny people have more issues with the boring yuri than the boring yaoi although they share similar issues, except claiming one sidedness from Kralsei is way more valid than from Suselle which was just nonsense
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>>576495229
I like yaoi. Kralsei isn't even really yaoi. Kris is an androgynous NB. It could easily, like really easily be a male x female relationship. I was mostly thinking about their dynamic. Which is just really flat.
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>>576494879
To me, Ralsei has always come off as a precocious kid about the same age as the rest of the gang, who are definitely not over 18. If anything, despite the burden that lieas on him, he is much more childish in his carefree moments than the others, there is a kind of innocence about him that I can't associate with an adult character. He's like a child who was forced to take responsibility way too early in his life and occasionally feels that this weight is too much for him.
I guess another big part of it is just the fact that Flowery and Ralsei next to each other look like a college kid picking up a middle schooler. I'd understand if artists aged Ralsei up to look closer to Flowery's age, but for some reason they make him even smaller sometimes, and there's only one way I can interpret that.
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>>576495024
Any ship can be called boring, and it all boils down to personal taste.
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Ralsei X 12 ft tall hyper ass deathclaw from fallout
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When Kris and Susie are away does Ralsei...

A) Act the same with all the Darkner subjects.

B) Abuse and berate all the Darkner subjects.

C) Avoid and ignore all the Darkner subjects.

D) Have sex with all the Darkner subjects.
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>>576495352
I need to tell you that you're calling different opinions for "subtle misogyny" and not even realizing it. You need to get that twitter brain parasite removed immediately before you get any worse
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>>576495397
the only way to make flowery x ralsei acceptable is to make flowery a shota
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>>576495397
Do you find Sans ships problematic because of his height? Like, does Soriel have /ss/ undertones? Are Papyrus ships immoral, because of his childishness? Or is it only at the conjunction of these things that it becomes an issue?
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>>576495665
NTA, didn't realize we were dealing with the full blown misogynation
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>>576495354
It is indeed yaoi if people ship them as maleKris x Ralsei. You likely just aren't into slowburns, or the potential dynamic of gremlin x soft (two-faced) boy.

>>576495504
I agree. If you like the idea of something you’ll seek out reasons for it to be good, or you’ll otherwise project your own preferences onto it. If not then it’s bland and you’ll search for any reason to discount (see Suselle haters).
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>>576495636
C for Ch1-3, A for Ch4-5
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>>576495636
C, he doesn't acknowledge their existence
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>>576495760
We went on a date with Papyrus as an ambiguous 6 year old. He's not ready for anything more romantic than a juniors cartoon
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>>576495024
you shrimply do not comprehend the power of selfcest
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>weird route is a bad ending for noelle
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>>576495024
People love the fan art of Kralsei than anything in-game of it actually. Because what's in-game is kinda almost nothing. Any depiction of Kris flirting with Ralsei has the pesky problem of it always being initiated by the soul.
And Kris themselves has shown to be sort of ambivalent to Ralsei, the only positive interaction between them is the "It's okay to stop smiling" and preventing the soul from telling Ralsei that he's supposed to like Tea. But crucially, Kris doesn't stop us from telling them to "Keep Smiling".
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back in my day, we had people ship frisk with sans and even have fankids
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>>576495923
Okay so like, being a Papyrus yume, or shipping him with Mettaton or Undyne, would be wrong? And you would consider people who like these things to be engaging with problematic, pedophilic media?
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>>576495994
not this guy
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i love kriselle but i feel like such a doomer reading evidence for it cuz like “the kris/noelle ferris wheel ride is the only one noelle ends satisfied with” could just be because a platonic childhood friendship is more comfortable than a romance she and susie aren’t really ready for. like i don’t get the impression that susie and noelle aren’t right for each other, just that they are anxious about their first relationship. idk my heart hurts about them.
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>>576495760
Papyrus is kind of a weird case, I personally don't think he is mentally retarded like some do, in the same way that Yellow isnt retarded - they are just cartoonish doofuses deliberately made this way for comedy. They don't feel deliberately disabled-coded or anything. Ralsei on the other hand is definitely kid-coded while Flowery gives off an impression of an adult. Making Ralsei smaller just exacerbates the feeling the ship gives off due to how child-like Ralsei already is normally.
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When's the heat going to stop :(
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*doesn't like papyrus porn voice* skeletons don't even have dicks
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>>576496005
Maybe I just became old but it's been soooo long since I've seen any art this sincerely cringe. The content is weird and off putting if you think about it for 2 seconds but someone made this with a strange twisted passion and thought to even share it.

UT was one of the last fandoms I engaged with that wasn't irony poisoned. Or I'm just old and can't find anymore.
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>>576495983
where is this dialogue?
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>>576496005
I miss the sexy Frisks
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>>576495397
>He's like a child who was forced to take responsibility way too early in his life
All four main characters have this issue in a different form. Kris has their duty to the Knight, Susie has to fend for herself because her parents don't take care of her, Ralsei struggles with the burden of the prophecy as you mentioned, and Noelle has been recently forced to take care of herself because her dad is hospitalized and her mom is always working. Kris and Ralsei both have more fantastical versions of this problem compared to Susie and Noelle's mundane versions, while Susie and Ralsei have been struggling with their problems for most of their lives while Kris and Noelle's problems are more recent.
I don't care about shipping arguments, I just think the way Toby wrote the main four characters as foils to one another is interesting.
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>>576496309
>Ralsei on the other hand is definitely kid-coded
doesn’t really care about ralsei award
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>>576496324
you have to close the dark fountains (coal implants)
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>>576495636
C but one time he abused Jigsaw Joe for treating (You) and Kris as separate people
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>>576495819
>the potential dynamic of gremlin x soft (two-faced) boy.
Kris doesn't really act like a gremlin with Ralsei though
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the internet will tell you that Spamton is both minor coded and a pedophile
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>>576496491
A part of my caring about Ralsei is exactly because he is this put-upon kid who is forced to play a role without regard for his own feelings and wants, those qualities of his make me feel for him even more.
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>>576496439
weird route then nothing
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It is Wednesday my faves
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>>576496704
And that's ok!
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>>576495983
>* So... Noelle... she, uh, did something kind of funny earlier?
>* I... I said I didn't have any cash for food, and she...
>* She took out, like, a roll of bills, probably like...
>* Probably like hundreds... of dollars...
>* And just... held it out to me. Smiling.
>* I mean, I... I dunno if I've ever even...
>* Seen. That much money.
>* ...
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>>576496309
What does "kid-coded" mean, though? Ralsei is extremely knowledgable and intelligent, he just has a meek and servile disposition. The thing that primarily differentiates him from Flowery is outlook. Personality. I don't get the impression that people are shipping them in any kind of weird way. They're mostly seen as a cute kencouple (https://w.wiki/TG8n).
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>>576496745
Ah yeah, I forgot about Susie's commentary. For a moment I thought those were Kris' thoughts.
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At the Deltarune theme park there's a popular attraction that's this machine which basically cycles through different heated circular discs that have the closest possible approximation of what a monster's chest feels like with the edges of tits/pecs for full immersion when you motorboat it. Essentially you can just press the Susie option on a screen and it'd cycle to a purple scaly chest disc with small edges of tits to press your face into. The question is this: who would the 3 most popular options be?

https://poal.me/36yzao
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> Sound test room specifically has songs that were meant to tease and fully appear in the weird route (Happy town is literally happy town, and trouble dingle is the weird route jingle, with meat factory being next in chapter 7)
> Only in the weird route Susie ALWAYS draws 3 people and specifically states who did she draw
> Sans seething desire to kill Frisk on the spot was caused by him believing it was Kris' doing that made his world end, simply because Frisk looks a lot like Kris, and only reason he didn't do that was because of Toriel asking him to, which reminded him of Toriel caring the same way about Kris.
So at this point it's very much confirmed that UNDERTALE was the result of THE WEIRD ROUTE being canon, but that raises the question how will the game end on the normal route?
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>>576496005
I believe that a child of a human and a monster would be a deformity.
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>>576496778
Money is power and Noelle is mogging Susie by displaying her status.
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>>576496704
The best to ever do it.
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>>576496040
I'm not the original anon. I don't think it's wrong. I think it's stupid. Putting up with Papyrus is a mother's job not a romantic partner's
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>>576495504
There are reasons you can call a ship boring
I might find Suselle boring because there is no conflict between Susie and Noelle's feelings so far creating a perfect fairytale love between them
I might find Kralsei boring because Kris does not reciprocate enough and it's difficult to have any clearance what this relationship means to the two most mystery ridden characters of the cast
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I have a theory
>chapter 6 is the ice palace
>according to noelle the fire mage leaves the party before the ice palace
>chapter 6 will have ralsei separated from the party
Now most would think this means that Noelle will finally return to the party, but I'm not so sure.
>noelle has strong ties to the character Pippi from Earthbound Zero, who is only in your party briefly early on and then never rejoins
>ralsei seems to parallel Lloyd from Earthbound Zero, as your faithful white haired glasses boy
>lloyd is absent from the party near the end of the game, leaving the character Teddy (pic related) to take his place
>teddy is an adult and is a physical powerhouse
So my theory is that Ralsei won't be with us in chapter 6 and we will have a temporary party member that ISN'T NOELLE with Kris and Susie instead. But I'm not sure who.
Maybe Carol. That would be really funny.
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>>576496892
What?
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My wife in this image
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>>576496698
There were a few moments in 3/4, and you can pick gremlin-like things for Kris to do in some Ralsei choices. That said, shipping is for fun and the point is to explore sides of a character (dynamic) that may not get a lot of focus in cano
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>>576497086
Why is she Madotsuki?
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how many times can carol investigate the exterior of the shelter before she’s seen everything? what is she even doing?
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>>576496969
Suselle could be interesting as fuck being two girls of polar opposite social classes where one is a bully who secretly longs to be a hero and one is a rich girl who is one bad day from jokering out and they both have cool RPG forms and are stuck in a doomed prophecy. It's just Toby who sucks at romance and won't develop it past basic bitch fluffy scenes.
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>>576496907
The emailer seems to have a role similar to the sound test room narrator .
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>>576496967
>Putting up with Papyrus is a mother's job not a romantic partner's
Weird, that's how I feel about Sans and Tenna. Papyrus is a golden retriever boyfriend.
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>>576496892
what an absolutely deranged idea.
i'm voting susie though....... kiddo
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>>576497163
>ok but what if I looked -inside- the shelter.
>nah that makes too much sense.
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>>576496468
I agree. I never got child vibes from Ralsei. To me he’s like, the most mature of the main four. Next to Noelle probably
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>>576497178
Another evidence of the weird route being canon, that's crazy.
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>>576496947
I somehow avoided this topic and I'm ever so grateful for it.

I have friends of all sorts but rarely, if ever, do I hang out with people who tear down media as "problematic." Not to say I don't appreciate honest and forthright critcism of media. I just don't get people getting haunted by vibes they read into the work and somehow make it someone else's problem.
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>>576497170
Deltarune is currently stuck in a bit of a
>It COULD be interesting
>It'll be so awesome WHEN this happens (if it happens)
>things WILL get so much crazier just you wait
>these characters WOULD have a massive falling out
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>>576497029
Susie is Teddy according to this official art
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>>576497029
>Teddy parallels
Okay hear me out Noelle doesn't fulfill both the Pippi and Teddy role, she's just Pippi and a Dess dust darkner is the Teddy while we temporarily lose Ralsei. Dess will have been actually dead the whole time with Carol having hidden the truth from Noelle and the others. Dessner will be incapacitated against an enemy that Ralsei will come back to destroy, mirroring Lloyd coming back with the tank to destroy the giant robot that attacks the healing house
Disclaimer: this is purely baseless speculation and I don't think most of it will or should happen
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>>576497384
kek right if only chapter 5 had alleviated some of this
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>>576497430
>Dess is Teddy
I'm a fucking retard for not thinking of this myself
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>>576496907
>Only in the weird route Susie ALWAYS draws 3 people and specifically states who did she draw

Isn't that always 3 people? What changes is the composition of Ralsei-Kris-Noelle-Susie, with only 3 being selected
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Which Fave has the most sensitive nipples?
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>>576497380
i want to make irl friends like this and i have no fucking idea how. how do i signal to like-minded people in my uni classes
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>>576497029
Asriel would fit the bill...

It could work. Could be a really cool twist. I love this kinda speculation, it really sparks the imagination!
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>>576496814
He is intelligent, but he is treated by the characters as a teenager like the rest of the gang and he acts accordingly. Susie says it'd be nice to have him go to school with her and Kris, and he is all for it, and all of them enjoy similar teenage activities together, with slight differences due to taste, but still. There isn't any indication that Ralsei is supposed to be perceived as older than Kris and Susie.
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>>576497392
I love that she's even holding her fist in a grip mimicking the missing knife in EB0 it's such a good attention to detail but Sans and Papyrus as the Tonzura Brothers will always be my favorite
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Chapter 6 = Chapter 2
Catti as a recurring boss = Berdly as a recurring boss
Start of Sword Route and killing Catti = Start of Weird Route and killing Berdly
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>>576497170
yeah suselle's biggest issue is that there is no development to it + both of them become more boring versions of themselves when together. it doesn't feel like toby is thinking "this is how susie/noelle would fall in love" he is just applying generic "character in love" tropes to them
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>>576497384
MEET POTENTIAL STORY!
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>>576497615
Ralsei is weird. I don't even think about him as straightforwardly having an age. He would feel perfectly in place to me both in high school and working in an office building.
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>>576495983
I don't get it. Explain.
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We're closer to the 11th anniversary than we are to Chapter 5 release date...
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>>576497163
investigating undynes disappearance maybe? nobody has mentioned it
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>>576497498
Don't be so hard on yourself anon, it's probably not going to actually be the case but it's a fun thought exercise. I think people are really locked in on the idea of the "Ice Palace" showing up in chapter 6 when I think it's more likely it will be another city dark world (based on sword route board 3) before transitioning to the shelter at some point. Remember, the mantle fight and chest rooms are in the shelter and form a big 6 when laid on top of each other
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>>576496428
There are still remnants of what you're talking about in designated cringe and autistic fandoms like warrior cats, thomas the tank engine, FNAF, sonic, lion king, spirit, httyd and other similar ones
Unfortunately even in them it's getting harder and harder to find genuine passionate autists because of cringe culture and moralism dictating what you can or cannot draw or write. You can't draw soriel skeleton boss monsters fankids anymore because it's cringe and tobias would never do that, you can't write frans shipfics anymore because frisk is literally 7 pixels old and your fic is indirectly promoting all sorts of dangerous -philias even though you just want to talk about two fictional characters you like and want to see together. It's also become riskier to be openly cringe because of certain groups of people seeking the next lolcow to make fun of or worse, doxx, not to mention also how easily strangers online can get your internet footprint if your opsec is leaky. The era of Cringe is over.
>TL:DR No fun allowed anymore on the internet.
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>>576497589
he is gonna come back as a literal honest to god golden flower
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>>576497384
It's already really interesting if you're capable of analyzing what the game is what and what it's showing you rather than what you convinced yourself it's supposed to be based on limited information
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>>576496005
isn't this pedo-necrophilia?
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>>576497523
In the normal route Sans tells her to draw her friends rather than herself and her friends, so she draws either Kris and Noelle or Kris, Noelle, and Ralsei if you picked a particular dialogue option in chapter 3
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>>576497759
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>>576497523
If you tell Ralsei in Chapter 3 that you'll get ice cream for Susie and tell her it was from him, Kris actually does that when you talk to Sans in Chapter 5's normal route, and then Susie decides to include Ralsei in the drawing as well, which makes it four people.
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>>576497916
analysis-intensive writing should be left to short form storytelling, like movies and novels, not to serialized fiction engineered specifically towards online fandoms who live and die on character interaction.
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>>576478838
>>576478896
update: it's actually really bitter and kinda like really yucky
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>>576497589
rollin'
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>>576497589
Zero onegai
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>>576498163
>"At long last, we have eaten the buttercups from the popular videogame Don't Fucking Eat Buttercups"
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>>576498246
Sorry to keep you waiting!
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>>576497991
Kris will eat more pies so Noelle will not he able to carry them
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>>576497939
>necrophilia
Just because he's a skeleton doesn't mean he's dead, you racist chud
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>>576497916
i’ve analyzed suselle and ive determined that its poopy sloppa
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>>576498324
Why doesn't she have striped socks?
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>>576496005
Frans was basically glorified yumeshipping back when people used Frisk as a self insert instead of making an OC like god intended. I don't see it as that gross because it's not like they were going out of their way to sexualize Frisk or promote age gap relationships.
It was still super cringe larp mode because the game looks you in the eye and says Frisk is a separate person from the Player at the end of the game. Stripped shirts are also for kids only. Just draw your OC to ship with Sans, it's not hard.
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>>576498251
i was curious ok?
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>>576498326
he will be soon
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>>576498163
Anon, buttercups are poisonous...
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>>576497430
Instead of a tank Ralsei rolls to the Ice Palace with the Thrash Machine Robo to fight the Dancing Santa Mecha Armada
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>>576498296
>freudian he/him slip
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>>576498404
You're going to die soon. Bye!
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>>576498404
I hope for your safety that you're fucking around and did not actually eat a buttercup right off the soil.
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>>576498359
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>>576498383
Our vessel will become an official yumesona in chapter 7
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does seth kiss aqua on the cheek or on the mouth
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>>576498163
nigga they're poisonous
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>>576497801
>people seeking the next lolcow to make fun of or worse, doxx, not to mention also how easily strangers online can get your internet footprint if your opsec is leaky
None of these things are new but I would argue that people care less than ever because the "lolcow communities" at their core are compromised and it's not about laughing at narcissistic freaks anymore it's about labeling everyone you don't like as a lolcow and seething about them and hoping they die or go to jail
>>576497950
Susie says she'll draw in Ralsei on both the weird and normal routes, arguably the difference is that on the normal route is that Noelle is present vs the weird route where it's just Kris and Susie and then Ralsei getting added. We don't know what's on sans's original picture really depicts specifically and what his goal is in getting one in each version of events is.
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>>576497768
>Ralsei working in an office building
Reminded me of when I found out that femboy from Midnight Gospel is apparently 40 years old
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dude I'm not gonna die just because of a teeny flower I probably would've had to like eaten a whole bouquet of them for that to happen
it was just a taste and it was very unpleasant
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i choose to believe in the knight's singular yellow pixel
i choose to believe in kris' blackening knife
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>>576496907
The reason why I'm not so sure about Sans Undertale originally being Sans Deltarune is BECAUSE he acts like he's meeting Player Undertale for the first time when he should have met Player Deltarune by this point when his whole schitck is that he can tell exactly what you're up to just by looking at you
Like at the very least at the very end of genocide when he drops the act and lays all his cards on the table he'd make it clear he's dealt with (You) specifically before
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I save and cherish all yumeshipping artwork involving fave
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>>576498802
Why do all rich men naturally develop a turtleneck
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>>576498163
>>576498404
You will *probaly* survive if you only ate one, but I suggest you try puking it up anyway
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>>576497878
cute
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Would you give your energy for Flowery's genkidama?
I would
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>>576498867
>doesn't put them all in showgirl outfits
fucking coward
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>>576498802
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>>576498827
You're probably not gonna die but it's still toxic, you might end up vomiting later.
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>>576498827
eat another one desu
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>>576498887
steve jobs fractured across time and space
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>>576498631
I wasn't talking about the weird route at all, I was talking about the normal route. There are three possible outcomes:
>Susie, Kris, and Ralsei (weird route)
>Kris and Noelle (normal route, default)
>Kris, Noelle, and Ralsei (normal route, only if you talked to Ralsei in chapter 3 and got the flag for it)
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>>576498946
I beleaf in him. In the power of flowers!
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>>576497170
Suselle tries to have a minimum amount of conflict where their love is meant to be rejected by actors surrounding them, but it doesn't really work.
The only two people who express any ill feelings for Susie are Carol and Catti. What does Catti do to stop Susie from dating Noelle? Nothing, she breaks down crying when they hold hands in front of her. What does Carol do? She kicks Susie out of her house, I guess, that's cool. But in the next day, she does absolutely nothing to stop Susie from dating her daughter. It's like Carol's rejection of Susie is only important for one scene. All the powers meant to resist Suselle from happening offer no real resistance. The most you can do is Side B'ing Noelle to get a reveal Kris does indeed feel jelly but Kris in the normal route is actively refusing to do anything and let it happen for reasons still to be disclosed.

I think this is a fragment of Susie's outcast status being one of the weakest links of her character, Toby doesn't seem to know how to write Susie being simultaneously a very nice person and yet suffering consequences for her poor behavior
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>>576498887
to hide the heroin injection sites
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>>576499003
>HOW MUCH LONGER
>iDELTARUNE
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I'm sorta touched by you guys worrying... thanks
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>>576498827
At least call your local poison control
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Why did Kris eat a pack of poisonous golden flower seeds after seeing Noelle kiss Susie?
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>>576499116
I want to kiss your forehead and rub your belly and suck your penis until you feel all better...
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>>576499116
Where were you touched?
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>>576499116
Why would Kris say such a thing?
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I'm your mom's best friend!
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>>576498130
>analysis-intensive writing should be left to short form storytelling
Right because episodic content has never and should never be written for a wider overarching plot line
>not to serialized fiction
Deltarune is being designed for its complete release as a finished product able to experienced in a single playthrough
>engineered specifically towards online fandoms who live and die on character interaction
So basically you only care about gay shipping wars and will piss and shit yourself if toby doesn't fulfill your OTP got it
>>576498858
I cannot parse any of this. Sans probably knows some shit and it's reasonable to assume he knows more than he's letting on. The difference is this time he's keeping his distance from Kris (and the player) for whatever reason
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>>576499005
does this imply not being nice to ralsei is breaking the prophecy?
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my penus hurts
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>>576499215
Would you let three ghosts of confusing gender kiss you?
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>>576498827
>dude I'm not gonna die just because...
Famous last words
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>>576499249
fix her color palette NOW
what would the house even look like if an employed asgore keot the kids and left toriel, and toriel was the conspiracy nut that lost her job and was obsessed with proving what happened on OH, THAT HORRIBLE DAY...?
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Wingdings Gaster Holiday
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I FINALLY BEAT THE BITCH-ASS KNIGHT
SUCK MY DICK, DEAD DEER CUNT!

shout out to susie’s rude buster, that weapon’s a real one
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>>576499346
ohhhhhhhh baby let me kiss it better...
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>>576499379
Yes. Yes! YES!!!
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>>576497916
What the game is showing me are 20 different Chekov's guns the story is deciding to stall and let them fire only at the last possible second
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>>576499465
if you didn’t no hit your save is bricked
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Do you think a single person died because Undertale/Deltarune influenced their life?
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May I offer you a starwaddler in these trying times
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>>576499587
shayyy when he acks in his basement
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i am shafe
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>>576499005
What im saying is that despite how sans phrases the request, I think Susie always included herself in the drawing. I think sans is testing something by asking for the drawing and the difference is the one involving Noelle not whether or not Ralsei gets drawn
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>>576499249
Yes Yes Yes!
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>>576499617
>tumblr crap
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>>576498851
Blackened Knife theory has evidence for it.
Nobody can explain why the Knife is more shiny in a dark area (like in ch.2, before being used to create the first dark fountain we see it being used for)
and less shiny in a bright area (ch. 5 after it was used to create 2 dark fountains)
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I may die from period cramps, goodbye anons it was fun to shitpost with all of you...
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>>576499617
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>>576499657
holy fuckkkkkk
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>>576499729
we will not forget you, anon
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>>576498858
I've started to buy into the theory that (from Sans's perspective) Deltarune happened first, then Undertale, but the version of Deltarune we play is a simulation of the original events so the player wasn't actually present when the real Sans was there.
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>>576499657
>Asgore is a tough boss and big monster. He knows how to take care of himself.
This made me emotional in a way I can't explain
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>>576499465
grats anon big g is proud of you
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>>576499580
>writing is when you constantly undermine building tension before the climax by explaining mysteries as soon as possible
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>>576499729
kek are you buttercup anon?
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>>576499729
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>>576499587
No, but I did read about a Ralseifan who got butt raped in a party. Apparently he loved to roleplay as Ralsei and talked like a sissy which gave someone the wrong idea.
Hilarious.
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>>576499597
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>>576499941
Who?
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>>576499940
>"Unsubscribe"
>firegraves Flowery
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>>576499967
there's no way this is real
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>>576499919
A good writer knows how to keep up the tension without hinging everything on the initial mysteries.
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>>576499940
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>>576499334
Yes, you have to ignore him and go tell Susie that it sucks to suck for the good ending
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I love my /utg/ friends
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>>576499919
All that gives me are more promises it's totally going to be great and awesome just believe it bro it's going to be so good this is why it's taking this long
Baiting people for years and years to reveal your mysteries better be a fucking fantastic story or it won't be worth it
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I love my specific, individual /utg/ friends. Yeah, them. You know... well, do I even need to say it?
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>>576500076
it isn’t he saw that one fanart of ralsei being raped at a house party and is making stuff up
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>>576499919
What tension?
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>>576499943
My FUCKING hero is so selfless...
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>>576500076
As I said, I read it somewhere. Don't remember if X or some other place.
Could be fake, or not. The world is a strange place, who knows.
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>>576500010
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>>576499940
is it confirmed that the drinks you can buy in the machine are also the drinks you can get via the vouchers?
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>>576500109
We HAVE gotten answers they just aren't keywords in bold red text so you didn't notice them. You wouldn't like them anyway because they did the thing a mystery is supposed to do at this point in the story and create as many questions as they do answers
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i HATE my /utg/ friends
all of you explode NOW!!!!!
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IT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEEEEEE WHYYYYYYYYYYYY GOD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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I love that /utg/ tolerates my presence!
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I HATE my /utg/ ENEMIES
I uploaded a Pink sticking her tongue out gif with this post you just can't see it because I didn't actually have it on hand
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can we open a mellow yellow soda fountain I haven't had one of those in months
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>>576500223
>Baiting people for years and years
The fact that you can only conceive very typical writing conventions as "bait" is telling
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I appreciate my /utg/ enemies because they're so retarded it's just entertaining when they shit the thread up
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>>576500474
pee dark world...
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I'm everyone's favorite /utg/ poster
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>>576500609
We had enough piss posting the previous thread
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>>576500469
dubious creature middle left
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Fave has a feeling of ominous dread...
Something bad is going to happen.
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Place your bets where is Noelle going to land in side b now that she knows it's all a game
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>>576500474
fave went to the coca cola shop in Epcot and tried Beverly and said it sucked
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>>576499782
KILL ASGORE DREEMUR KILL ASGORE DREEMUR.
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if it's yellow let it mellow
if it's brown flush it down
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>>576500607
Noel...
>>576500639
Noelle...
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>>576500604
ARGs about your super cool secret route are not typical writing conventions
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>>576500682
Don't worry, we won't let it happen
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>>576500723
>she knows it's all a game
>flowey not included on the list
Bait used to be believable
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i love buckethead <3
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Suselle is da problematic ship.
(I headcanon Susie as 5 years old)
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>>576500723
The depths.
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>>576500759
In a way
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>>576500314
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Kris and Pink OTP
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>>576500889
best me in a game in smashing fighters and my ass is your
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>>576500878
To be fair flowey's situation is pretty unique. The rest to our knowledge weren't able to fuck around with saves for an infinite amount of time
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i can only carry 50 cuptains at a time
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>>576500851
ARGs and similar viral marketing are incredibly common these days. Nothing in the ARGs is needlessly mysterious if you can comprehend English at a 5th grade level and if you played the sword route you already know how the weird route is ending
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy-kZ3oum5k
PinKris brainrot
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>>576501006
Aw, this one is especially adorable.
By the way, do you normally get fresh art from Twitter or somewhere else? My normal sources have become almost unusable after Ch5.
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>>576490325
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>Chapter 7 Noelle vs. Susie
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>>576501537
Why are they doing that? Are they stupid?
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Why is Ralsei looking at me and telling me to have mercy? What does he think I'll do to everybody?
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>>576501316
None of these characters, including Flowey know they're in a video game at all except MAYBE gaster but he's not even actually IN the game. Saying sans "knows but is chill" flies entirely in the face of his genocide battle, most of these are purely fanon. You could maybe extrapolate Chara's genocide monologue as being literally about going to play a new video game but I highly doubt that it's the single time ever the "everything is just a game" dialogue is seriously a character knowing that they're in a video game and again it does not line up with chara's desire to take frisk's soul and wreak havoc on the surface in a tainted pacifist ending
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guys how do i cure myself of ass addiction
everywhere i go i cant control it i must slap the ass
said fave
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last night i closed my eyes and imagined flowery and superman fighting and this morning i woke up with violent mushy shits
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>>576501712
deserved
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>>576501681
Flowery...
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>>576501680
Jaru...
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>>576501712
Sorry, Supes! I have maximum stats! Maybe you're the strongest in your world... but things work a little bit differently in here!
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>>576501641
I emailed Toby Fox a fanfic where Player forces Ralsei to firegrave Susie and every darkner
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>>576501712
Flowery was in your colon's Dark World, protecting your stool from Superman
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Jockington will join the party in chapter 6
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>>576501376
almost 99% comes from here through the years, I just have like 10k images of ralsei so I recycle them
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>>576501680
They don't use the word video game literally but sans knows there's a higher being with a seemingly infinite amount of tries to do whatever they want that going up against is guarenteed death. It's the semantic difference between the matrix's alien stuff and saying "yeah it's just a simulation"
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>>576501334
I'm in disbelief...
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>>576502001
Go to twitter and find the art
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You are Susie, thinking hope will win in the end.
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>>576501641
i will spare everyone if ralsei shows hole
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What if he was Clocky and was called Clockington
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>>576502064
Kek that made me laugh more than it should. I love these screenshots.
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>>576502092
I don't want to use socials
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>>576501641
He's not looking at you or talking to you. He says he prays every time he's alone and you've never seen him pray before now plus you can just skip this scene, the prayers are not directed towards you.
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>>576502103
I want a sad everyone dies ending though
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>>576502001
I see, a very nice collection you've got
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Hey guys! It's me! Humanery! Kris' fun uncle!
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chubby furry ralsei belly for squishing
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>>576502292
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>>576502305
I like it more but not because it was or wasn't confirmed to be one guy or a pack of guys but because it was confirmed to be a guy (pack of) at all with a goal and relations instead of just a mysterious entity we don't know what it wants
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>>576502305
FRIEND is a bunch of cats wearing human skin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOWTQE9i_Uw
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>>576502169
He knows where the players screen is facing from, so there has to be a reason why he faces the players direction right? Maybe he doesn't know if the player is always listening or not but he still prays in case they are.
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>>576502168
handsome raly
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>>576502176
This, except that Kris and Noelle are kissing on top of a mountain of corpses and frozen bones while the whole world is turning into a frozen wasteland.
Kris is crying. The end.
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what if orange dropped an anvil on pink, tom and jerry style?
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has anyone else been able to smell when it was about to rain before or was that just a meImeanfave thing
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>>576502292
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>>576502493
honey… he is facing the front so we can better see the prayer sprite…
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Kris killed our vessel and is why they have their hands permanently grey stained
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>>576502447
Ralsei will fertilize all the eggs
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>>576502642
it's a normal thing
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Are there any good ERAM rematch USTs yet
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>>576502698
no they have to fuck and impregnate us ch 5 said so
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>>576502646
this is too chubby. fat fucking bastard
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>>576502642
Jesus... go outside more often dude.
Yes, you can.
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>>576502642
How the fuck would you be able to smell rain
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>>576502787
What???
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>>576502654
Fuuuuuuck. me and my chud ass reading into shit again
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>>576502740
>collecting the eggs lets you have many ralsei
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>>576502787
but kris has a vagoo
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>>576502642
I dunno but I really like the smell after the rain.
>insert funny reference here
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>>576502358
Yes
YES
DONUT RALSEI FOR SNUGGLING
FAT BITCHES GIVE ME POWERRRR
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>>576502305
FriendMike was the most elegant solution in my mind, but that seems unlikely now. I don't feel very strongly about Friend one way or the other though, and I won't until Toby actually introduces the fucking thing.
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>>576502951
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>>576501838
>Superman arrives through a multiversal portal and shows up in Hometown. He knows only that he needs to get the shelter codes before Kris and Susie, as he doesn't believe those kids are strong enough to face what's in there on their own.
>He manages to reopen the DW exactly as it was before using Justice League Technology so he can get the code from Flowery.
>The two begin to battle; Superman's form remains unchanged by the Dark World, but as they fight... Superman starts getting weaker and weaker.
"Heh, tired yet, Superboy? I'm sorry, but this is a "Dark World."
"Don't you get what that means? These suns... while they're enough to power me..."
"You've got no chance of sustaining your power here, newbuddy!"
"So just leave... Aren't you a symbol of hope? I thought you'd understand those three's power... They defeated me, after's all!"
"...No? Okay then... But if you're gonna want a one million's chance at defeating me..."
"Maybe you should try and learn this world's powers, instead of your own?"
"After-all, like anygood human, it looks like you can use a MAGIC or Two's!."
>Superman's old form is blown away by the transient winds, revealing his Dark World form.
"What a dashing great style, newbuddy! Now, do you wanna keep fighting, or what? You're gonna have to show you can survive in the darkness before I let you have my SheltersCode!"
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SHITTY IDEA ALERT
Bara Friend x Nigress Friend
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One of the more annoying parts of ship discourse is that the idea of suselle just not working out is that the idea is always expected to be this immediate downfall and not “hey maybe we can just be friends?”
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Toby Fox please add Superboy Prime to Deltarune
And he's a Kriselle fan
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https://x.com/i/status/2085010718261473498
Watch this. It's good.
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i wish i could draw...
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>>576503268
Fans can't handle a lighthearted jab about the hat thing and you want to add Superboy Prime?
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>>576503270
kek, nice
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>>576503214
I'm fully convinced we are getting a friendship ending.
No Kriselle
No Suselle
No Krusie
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>>576503331
replace wish with want
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>>576503098
squisha and snuggla da gota
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>>576503347
Toby please it would be really funny
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>>576503331
Well I wish I could write fan fiction...
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>>576503468
>i want i could draw...
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>>576503103
This... is good! Flowery and Supes would definitely get along.
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>>576503468
i want i could draw...
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>>576503331
It's ok, Toby Fox also can't draw. But that doesn't stop him.
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>>576503214
you can blame doe and susfags for that
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i wish i could draw…
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>>576502027
This is such a dramatic misunderstanding of sans's character and motivations it's unreal. If sans did not believe his world was real because of what he knows then his actions in the genocide route make no sense. The power to save isn't just loading a game file on your computer, it's a real power that people in that world can have. It gives an individual the power to make everyone else's actions meaningless and killing that person does nothing. Sans can observe these effects but can't actually remember them, he's just as powerless as anyone else against somebody with the power to save. That and not being able to "go back" are the source of his apathy. He moves against you decisively in the genocide route because he can observe that your actions are going to cause an imminent doom that even you can't really fix. If his apathy was instead born out of knowing the world isn't real why would he be driven to stop it from being destroyed so finally?
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>>576503595
now replace "i could" with "ralsei's" and "draw" with "cock"
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>>576503569
>get inside me, Kris
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i wish i could draw on the whiteboard but im banned for stupid reasons,,,,
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>>576503569
>sans' bread jumps out of kris's inventory and jams the propellers halfway through
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>>576503725
>i want ralsei's cock
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>>576503542
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>>576503569
She's gonna fly away from this stupid town, all the way to the twin towers
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>>576503098
He looks like a toddler here. Aquapedo tier.
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You think Flowery and the rest made people more or less sympathetic to Asgore?
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>>576503467
It's a likely scenario, and I'd be fine with that
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>>576503865
I guess it's hereditary...
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i wish i could snew
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>>576503978
Personally the fact we finally technically "met" the 6 fallen humans makes me hate him a teensy bit more, at least the UT variant.
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>>576503892
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>>576504112
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>>576503978
it made people less blindly sympathetic
like nobody is going "wtf i hate my asgores?" now but people aren't just pretending like he did nothing wrong and got divorced by that DIRTY EVIL WHORE... *gnashes my strawman teeth* anymore
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>>576503978
less…? my opinion on asgore was neutral but having it confirmed that toriel was in the right for kicking his fat schizo ass out of her house makes me dislike him
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>>576503715
He's a fucking coward, dude. He's going to run in DT and he runs in UT unless he's the last person left. You can spare a monster with 2 lines and he'll pussy out on trying to take you on
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>>576503978
Asgore ignoring Aqua made him more hated so probably not
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>>576502493
He doesn't know that the player is watching him in that scene, he walked off screen from Kris and usually you don't have the option to close your eyes and think of Ralsei so I doubt he expected you to
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>>576504283
i don’t care about aqua or any of the flowers
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>>576503945
The azzypedos have gotten comfortable spamming their gross porn every day again.
Hopefully some kind of local law enforcement deals with them before they are a danger to society.
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>>576503214
Suselle shippers always use that as a solution to kris. “They don’t have to be together. They can just be friends. It can’t always be about romance” It would be interesting to view suselle from the same lens.
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>>576489981
>Overwight orange edition
>previous fat fuck
Wow, tell me more.
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>>576503268
You're reinventing Caliborn from first principles
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rudy being the knight would be cool but it’s gotta be dess or asriel
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>>576504112
>>576504207
>THE KNIGHT WOULD HATE ESCAPISM
>THE KNIGHT WOULD LOVE ESCAPISM
>"hmmm I am quite fond of raly"
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>>576503978
Perople who already hated him hate him more, people who were neutral probably dislike him more, people who were only pretending to like him got btfo and the true Asgore enjoyers who would love him no matter what he did were happy.
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>>576504447
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>>576504558
Mobile Game World is a cruel place
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>>576504594
Get listed publicly and jailed permanently.
If you prefer, flush yourself.
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>>576503214
The hammer game says otherwise
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Chapter 6 will reveal Toriel was extremly responsible for the incident that transf haha got you, Toby Fox wont reveal shit before chapter 7
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>>576490221
Underscar
Frisk is replaced with a girl named Scarlet and she has a scimitar
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Incredible stuff, visually and musically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwd2ZH3HHEw
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>>576504558
hate this pic. dont like seeing him unhappy in this context.
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>>576504594
ACK-
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>>576504813
I didn’t know papyrus loved ralsei that much
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>>576504723
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ULTIMATE SCHIZOTHEORY:

!!! WARNING !!!
!!!THIS THEORY IS TRULY SCHIZOID!!!
!!!PROCEED AT YOUR OWN CAUTION!!!

Deltarune Toriel boss fight
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https://youtu.be/tcER7fSHMMw

Rare
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>>576504760
If i see one more person talk about how the hammer game means suselle is going to break up/they're not going to be a good fit, i'm going to go ballistic like can you actually read the text for once. The only reason susie and noelle don't ace the hammer game is because susie doesn't know the rules of the game (just as she doesn't know the rules of romance!!) susie instead plays it on her own terms as a result and guess what, noelle finds it CUTE and FUNNY that susie broke the rules (something noelle desperately wishes she could do herself and is learning to do so in a healthy manner by spending time with susie)!! then when noelle DOES explain the rules, susie still breaks the rules to make it work between the two of them!! because even if susie doesn't know the rules of society and romance, she cares about noelle and wants to make it work.

The same thing happens with the ferris wheel where it doesn't go up all the way (the 'rules' are quite literally broken) but both of them have a good time!! undisturbed by kris aka us the player!!
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>Asgore kills kids
>feels extremely bad about it
>hated
>Spamton tries to kill kids
>doesn't feel even a little bad about it
>beloved
Ugly dumpster goblin privilege is real
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>>576505237
He killed six of them though.
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>>576504813
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>>576505237
Spamton is funny and has charisma
Asgore is a sadsack who craves death
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>>576503978
I liked seeing another side of his character that we only got hints at before and I liked that he was able to accept his faults and try to make amends
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>>576505237
>ZAMN! HOW CAN I [Pay 4 easy payments of 19.99] TO LEARN TO BE A [BIG KING]?
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https://x.com/AnimationsFera/status/2084674083061452896
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>>576505187
The universe is literally saying "This will never work out" but feel free to see it as passion fueled rule breaking that will conquer all odds up to and including the actual end of the world that is imminent and about to be a direct result of their actions in chapter 6.
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Asgore's the head of a state engaged in a war. Killing people is part of the job. It's not morally the same as a random guy going out and killing six people.
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>>576505314
Lowtierskeleton
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>>576505273
Did he kill all of them himself tho?
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>>576505237
Spamton has Dale Gribble energy
Asgore has Bill Dauterive energy
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>>576505273
those kids came back alive after true pacifist tho so that's invalidated
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>>576505237
If trying to kill kids was the metric for liking UTDR characters you would be able to like Kris, Frisk and Ralsei, period.
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>>576505385
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>>576505531
Toby implied all six humans reached him so yeah. He killed UT Kris so he must pay for his crimes.
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>>576505468
Yeah and we can now infer that he engaged said war because he had a morbing out moment like the one we saw in Chapter 5 and probably started rambling about parading the bodies of humans. All because his chud son wanted to make their suicide everyone's problem.
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>>576505603
No they didn't.
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>>576505187
Susie doesnt know the rules because shes not supposed to be there. I love Susie and suselle is fine but she's going to be the universe's fall guy here and there's a paragraph on the wall
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Krusie is like giga dead now though isn't it? Susie doesn't seem to view Kris romantically at all and Kris despite having a huge crush on her still spends the entire time manipulating her (her exact fear and worst nightmare) for their vaguely evil plan
Even if Suselle wasn't a factor getting from this to a romance is a pretty rough challenge
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>>576505640
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>>576505640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24EVC6DMkc
>Aqua as this
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None of the monsters in Undertale are ethically or morally in the right.
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>>576505187
>CUTE and FUNNY
UOOOH!!
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There are people in this thread that have no shadow crystals and no eggs in their main Deltarune save
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>>576505637
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Knight will be a party member in chapter 6
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>>576505825
I love this but I see yellow as more of a goat or a lean dog than a bull
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>It's strange. By all reasonable means, the strength of your next opponent...
>Should be enough to already ring the bell on your defeat.
Seam was making a joke about the strength tester here because Gerson uses a hammer. Also Gerson is literally testing Susie's strength. I guess the fact that you beat him means that (You) and Susie are perfectly synced? There's a lot of gags in chapter 5 where Susie supports whatever dumb thing (You)'re trying to do, like pushing all the statues off the ledge, or dodging Seth's bullet pattern instead of fighting it, or trying to jump over that one wall, or falling to death to get some Flowery dollars, maybe the idea is that she's naturally in sync with the player the way Kris and Noelle are in sync with each other. I don't mean in a romantic way, obviously.
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>>576506046
I don't get the point of having a bunch of pins that look the exact same in ita bags
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>>576505946
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>>576505853
Even the Snowed Inn lady who lets Frisk sleep for free if you don't have the money for a room?
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Would?
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>>576505819
They have a bröderbund or something, way better than stinky old romance
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Chapter 5 was the first chapter where I got the shadow crystal on my first playthrough.
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>>576506105
It looks more organized and aesthetic.
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>>576506142
That's just loli Kris in the dark world.
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Deltarune is actually about Toby's journey from Irony Weeb to Completely Sincere Vtuber Addict through the lens of Kris, his self-insert
That's why Pink was put into the game to juxtapose with how Mew Mew Kissy Cutie was portrayed and used in Undertale
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>>576505613
Frisk steps towards MK menacingly without player input in geno so they're also in the attempted child killer club
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>>576506127
None of the major monster characters*
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>>576506231
>flirting vs harassment
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gabagoat
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>>576506106
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Noelle if she wasn't a filthy rich parasite who got her bath cleaned by her former best friend's dad
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I will never get over this character.
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>>576505237
I love both, but Spamton lost everything. Asgore's situation is not ideal either, but the underground adores him. Spamton has no one, which is why I think people tend to feel more sympathy for him.
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Guess what you’ll never guess
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>>576505463
>it's gonna fail because of the bell game
or maybe susie is going to make it work no matter what the game says??
>it's gonna fail because susie lied to noelle about the dark world
okay and susie is going to rectify that by coming clean to her next chapter????
>it's gonna fail because it happened too quickly’ okay have you ever seen two teenagers in love?????

teenagers are impulsive to begin with, but susie is someone that has been so unloved that she jumps up at the sign of any affection. it’s extremely clear that the reason susie didn’t think noelle liked her is because she has such low self-esteem that she couldn’t fathom that the 'top shelf’ girl in her class would like her. it’s not until noelle spells it out for her that susie puts a name to how she feels and even THEN she puts it in a 'i like you the way you like me’ way. she then takes it SO SERIOUSLY that she views taking kris to the lake as if she’d be cheating on noelle. she doesn’t even flirt with the floradinns! she learns how to make holiday cookies and what kind of flower to give noelle. the encounters with the flowers were to help susie define what love looks like to her because she simply does not know how to express it yet.

how will the girl learn the true meaning of love? the struggles of balancing your romantic love with a love that isn’t quite that is so much more intriguing than hoping that susie just goes through a heartbreak, no? how do you show love to someone who is just as important to you as your romantic partner? what shape does that take? how do you do it without letting anyone feel like they’re being left behind? how do you make sure that you’re happy too and that you don’t lose yourself by just prioritizing your partner’s happiness? that's the question we should be asking here.
i don’t think suselle will remain this explosion of romance the entire time, but i do think they will work through it as it settles into something of its own.
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>>576506296
That is CHUDDA controlling Frisk.
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>>576506105
Imagine you're trying to get golden Tenna from the gachapon. But there's only one golden Tenna, so it takes several pulls, and you end up with tons of badges you don't need. So you will find a fan who likes the character whose badges you have, and exchange for those badges you wanted.
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Fave is naked underneath all of their clothing.
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>>576506385
This Asriel is voiced by Patrick Warburton
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is hammer game the new tea theory
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>>576505946
Do darkner possessions have their own darkner-er forms? Can ralseis doll have its own hopes and dreams
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Wow, the Fun Gang has a TERRIBLE track record
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Was it someone here that requested Carol growing wings and flying her family out of Hometown?
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>>576506595
ch5 is trying to do everything the older chapters did again after all
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>>576506496
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>>576506387
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>>576506458
Does this pic imply that she possibly tried to hang herself?
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>>576505237
spamton is a villain and asgore is just a loser
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>>576506595
It's reverse tea theory because it makes Kriselle look good and Suselle look bad
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>>576506583
how did you know?
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crazy that asgore is the ugliest of the goats why did toby make him bald and fat
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Dice pussy
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The Pizzarina arc is just another version of the Prophecy/Deltarune
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>>576506736
yes and that she cuts herself and is now overdosing on some drugs
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>>576506814
He's the living embodiment of divorce
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>>576505853
toriel and papyrus
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>>576506814
Toriel is balder than Asgore but we're not ready for that conversation
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>>576506772
It doesn't necessarily make Kriselle look good, it just makes them look in tune with each other.
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>>576506647
yes!!!!!!!!!!!! me me me me me me it was me
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>>576506505
Just know that no matter what happens, the story is at the emotional peak and the dramatic and tragic climax is not about to do them any favors.
It couldn't be any more obvious too, the welcome banner Susie was putting up for Noelle is downright heartbreaking given what we know about Noelle's real personality and how she will react to a fake world in the school closet.
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lalala look at my gay
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Deltarune took so long to make Yu Gi Oh Abridged is almost to the last arc
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>>576506885
Toriel is complacent and Papyrus is proliferating Asgore's plan by capturing humans.
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>>576506814
He's a divorced dad. To make him look like anything else would be unrealistic.
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>>576506505
its annoying to see people constantly downplay the amount of setup done for them (the candy cane pencil, the way they both keep thinking about each other, the equip dialogue for each other’s default wep, etc)
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>>576506615
I guess it depends by how an object is viewed by lightners? The pens turn into swords instead of darkners
>>576506703
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>>576503668
start tracing
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>>576506978
I'm amazed he's still going.
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My takeaway from the hammer game was
Kris+Susie: Neither feels the need to test it at all, they dont need something to come in and tell them they're a good pair
Kris+Noelle: Neither was sure about how they fit with the other, but even with time they're still more in sync than they think
Susie+Noelle: Both needed something to tell them that it'll work, neither was truly confident that they match up. When faced with the idea there might be trouble, they'd rather pretend the signs arent there
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Krusie is the new Zutara there I said it
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>>576503978
I appreciated that Asgore didn't want to deal with them because I didn't want to either. I get the flowers are meant to be a metaphor but if his family acted like them then maybe Asgore is better off starting over, and the real victory is realizing he's got serious things to do other than worrying about which flower is dating which.

>>576505819
All the ships are giga dead.

I don't know if we're SUUPOSED to still be thinking Kris might get one of the girls, but if we are, Toby's out of touch. He shows Susie going all in on the Noelle thing and the average, well-adjusted person knows the fight is over and it's time to move on. The Kriselle stuff is also giga dead because the weird route is about Noelle being off her mess, basically. It's not that rromantic. And Suselle meanwhile sucks ass. A whole relationship based around talking about their relationship and almost nothing else, ever. Even if Suselle blows up it won't be interesting because, oh no, then they'll stop talking if they're dating and will instead talk about breaking up or not dating.
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>>576506583
why is fave such a slut?
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>>576506814
he has bear appeal you just dont like bears
>ralsei
femboy/twink and shota appeal
>toriel
milf appeal
>asriel
twink/twunk/femboy appeal
>togore
autist appeal
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>>576506968
I’ll be painting it, maybe oil maybe digital. Unsure if it’ll work out since I have no oil experience yet.
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>>576506865
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>>576506914
She has a very feminine and attractive pixie cut ackshully
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>>576506617
>protagonists of the "being strong is bad" game are not all that strong
puzzling
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Oh, he's here.
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>>576490221
My Carol, John Mantle and Chara prequel idea.
The game is set past the police tape on "the other side" of Hometown.
Castle Town is in the School as usual.
Chapter 1 takes place in Carol's home, as befitting her hidden weeb side the Card Kingdom is made of Hanafuda Cards.
Chapter 2 takes place in uhhhhhhhhhh, Queen is there
Chapter 3 takes place in a Cinema, where the Lord of Screens is revealed to be a conveniently always offscreen projector while its projection "Silver" is who is cleaved by the Knight.
Chapter 4 takes place in Gerson's Workshop.
Chapter 5 not sure, Asgore's house?
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Being an Asgorefag here must be suffering. Imagine loving a cwitter everybody around you hates and shit talks constantly, what a nightmare.
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>>576507071
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https://files.catbox.moe/rnvkpq.mp4
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>>576506385
gagol
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which theories are you happy got confirmed as wrong? i’ve always hated objectsei
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>>576506859
The Catty option is basically UT's neutral ending where you avoid the prophecy (Pizzapants meeting Pizzarina in person) while Blue Ears and Bratty are TP/geno where both outcomes fulfill the prophecy but in different ways
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I am a human supremacist I don't care for the monsters and it would be better off if they were all dead. entirely different species don't deserve any kindness or affection as they oppose humanity's direct goals for survival it's killed or be killed
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>>576507332
Deer ribcage, it’s rotting Dess.
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>>576507121
this feels closer to what toby might’ve been going for when he wrote it. it’s a measure of how close you are with someone.
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>>576507259
noh i’m nawt
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>>576507298
asgorefags can’t be anything but older gay guys so the likely dont care for the opinions of zoomies in utg
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>>576507064
Can I just say that despite me liking Suselle, that if there ends up being no drama between them and they just end up being together happily ever after, that I think their romance would be very poorly written and I would stop liking them together. Like I'd be happy if they ended up together at the very end but there's gotta be something dramatic that happens between the two of them, right?
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>>576507335
grooge
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>>576506802
i can smell naked goats for up to 3 miles away
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>>576507303
>sample
anon save the actual files, this is internet 101 stuff
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>>576507298
and ch.5 was supposed to be their saving moment as well
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>>576507446
ghrug
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>>576507363
To destroy the monsters for the sake of bare survival would be humanity's voluntary surrender of its humanity and submission to a perpetual non-existence. You can dream bigger than that.
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>>576507194
sexiest blue i’ve seen if only he actually looked like that
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>>576507340
>which theories are you happy got confirmed as wrong?
Schizoboss theory and "the knight placed the shadow crystals" theory because what we got is way cooler and more interesting
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Guys I just broke into Toby's home and stole this critical note from Toby's desk.
It says "throw ralsei against wall he make splorch sound, ok that is all my work for today my wrist expl"
What do you think it means?!?
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>>576507362
Thought this was Flowery dressed as Vash the Stampede and now I'm disappointed it isn't.
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Noelle/Gaster will never be happy because she/he can't vore enough timelines.
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>>576507162
Extremely cool. I send you all the motivation I have, good luck!
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>>576507121
>even with time they're still more in sync than they think
Actually, Noelle says they were never able to win as kids, so they're more in sync now
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>>576506885
Toriel abandons her duties as queen and attempts to trap (You) against your will
Papyrus beats (You) unconscious
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>>576507435
There doesn't even need to be something dramatic. They just need to have ordinary fucking conversations about things other than the status of their relationship.

The small talk in chapter 4 is the best they've done so far. We know they both like or liked video games a little and both saw a movie. Also it's hot in July.
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>>576507603
I wish you could draw...
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>>576507525
grog
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>>576507363
...except boss monsters.
>>576507303
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>>576507121
i can’t help but think that kris and Noelle doing it perfectly is the exact societal expectation thrust upon them for being childhood neighbors that toby is deconstructing in the weird route (and the normal route to an extent too)

imo kriselle has the most fanon-taken-canon interpretations out of all the ships in the cast, purely due to their childhood neighbors status. i’m not saying this is bad, by the way, but that this shows how we as a society see ‘childhood neighbors’ and attach all sorts of expectations to them.

they must have been each other’s first loves, they must have been each other’s first kiss, they must have done x y and z as expected of childhood neighbors who mean a lot to each other

and considering dessriel is canon and the whole 'let’s fit ourselves into the king/queen box despite one of us being nonbinary’, i can’t help but wonder if kris and noelle also both felt like they had boxes they had to check off if they were truly 'childhood friends’.

like there are a lot of things in the game and in society that point to 'kris and noelle should get together and have a perfectly normal romance that’s expected of them as childhood neighbors’. as mentioned, there’s the festival, their color scheme (or at least i’ve seen this one get pointed out), the weird route only being possible because of noelle’s trust in kris (which the player takes advantage of), spamton insinuating something, susie thinking kris and noelle were a thing, et cetera
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>>576507650
>There doesn't even need to be something dramatic.
It would be boring without it.
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>>576507414
The K+N and K+S results feel intentionally opposing, both of them failed to do the game properly but got completely different results. It doesnt matter if you dont understand the timing Noelle was going off of, Kris and Noelle will ace it, but when Susie doesnt understand the rules, she fails it and has to pretend she didnt.
Not knowing how it works wont change it's answer, its not judging your ability to play its game
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wish we could just get info on one of the fucking mysteries
just tell us who the knight is, or what happened to asgore, or why we’re possessing kris, or fucking anything
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>>576507670
goatar
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>>576507636
They were very little to be fair. Probably they didn't have much strength
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Don't forget...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNfgjBG5uuM
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>>576507789
gord
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>>576506974
Carrying college boy Asriel home because his best dancing shoes hurt his feet too much
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>>576507767
>K+N and K+S
K+N and S+N, my bad
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my baby...
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>>576508020
Flowery's slightly off-putting relationship with his twin sister!
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i wish i had a goat brother
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boss monster lore is weird. but i will give ralsei a child and then get rid of it so he lives forever
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who is the best character from chapter 5
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>>576507897
gattack
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>>576507726
Only if nothing significant happens. A lot of adventure stories have incidental romances, but none of them are formed by both parties making small talk for five minutes and otherwise discussing if they should date.

You gotta understand, we are PAST the interesting part of the relationship. They talked about dating, they dated, now they talk about the present of dating. If they have a fight it won't be that dramatic. It just means they'll talk about breaking up, which is almost not a change from the status quo.

If they transition into communicating like normal people and focus on the adventure then it could work, but so help me if they devote a chapter to Susie and Noelle talking about if they DON'T want to date I am going to fucking explode.
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i wish i had a goat boyfriend
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>>576508102
papyrus
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>>576508102
Flowery
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>>576495085
Kris, this can't just be "our thing" anymore. We need to tell Goku about it too.
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>>576508102
I still cry half the time I think about Flowery.
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i wish i was a goat
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>>576507650
>need to be something dramatic
It'd be disappointing if Ch6 is just another fun adventure when Ch5 advertised itself as "the last fun adventure", surely the events happening would influence characters/relationships with whatever revelations come about (I guess it is an assumption anything of meat will happen in Ch6 though). Why should Noelle be happy she was lied to by Susie so she could (functionally even if not literally) date Kris? These are teenagers, they're impulsive and prone to poorly reading situations after all.
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>>576508103
gagry
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Why does Castle Town have a gigantic grand door for a kingdom next door that gets sealed in the first chapter, anyway?
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>Hey, we... we actually did it! We won!
>... neither of us could ever ring the bell as kids.
>Guess we both... got stronger. Faha.
One could argue that Noelle is actually in sync with the player rather than Kris, considering there's a cheeky reference to becoming stronger and the player is ultimately the one who decides the timing that she matches.
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>>576508223
more like gayngry
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>>576508087
That's...not how it works. (Assuming he is actually a boss monster) Ralsei would just not age as long as he doesn't have a child. You don't need to birth and kill a child for that
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>>576508087
the boss monster lore feels like something Toby wrote to make the plot work.
>Why can't you use any soul to cross the barrier? Oh it can only be a human and a boss monster because their souls linger for long
>How can you confront Asgore if this happened years ago? Oh, his race stops aging if the heir dies... for some reason.
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>>576508102
yellow made me laugh
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>>576508273
Grand doors are actual Light World doors. They're not a feature Ralsei chooses to install. The one in Castle Town is the door to the unused classroom.
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>>576507675
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>>576508273
It's the final door to the real world.
You know, our world.
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>>576508329
lol
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>>576508020
Good old cross-pollination
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>hear someone knock goatily on your front door
>check it out
>see this
what do?
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>>576508273
Toby planned to have all dark worlds connected to Castle Town but later scrapped that idea (maybe, idk)
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>>576508339
it’s indeed very odd because he could’ve just said they’re immortal from the jump. immortal things can still be killed
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>>576508207
Anon, I don't really want to explore the adventure of the poorly conceived teenage romance that wasted my time. I didn't even think ch5 was fun.

I am not invested in Suselle. I do not give a flying fuck if they break up and wasn't excited to see them get together. It's not an interesting romance story. A breakup arc will not suddenly make it worth caring about.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dEKKEYt3nME
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>>576508525
drop to my knees and suck his cock.
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>>576508441
lmao
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>>576508410
so cute. precious
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>>576508538
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>>576508585
right there on your front porch?!?! where other people could see?!?!
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>>576508410
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>>576508606
going to lay down on the sofa now, cya later fren
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I want to cope otherwise but i cant really see krusielle working. people insist that it can work in canon, but it would honestly just feel forced. noelle and susie are perfectly happy with eachother, idk why kris NEEDS to be dating them for all of them to be happy. you know you can just be friends and it can matter as much as romantic love yeah?
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>>576508694
hell yea
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>>576508779
it’s gonna be susie x noelle and kris x ralsei. desu
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>>576508682
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What would it take to exterminate goatfags
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>>576508779
i think kris will genuinely kill themselves if they don't get a taste of that purple dragon pussy.
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>>576508772
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>>576508779
I don't think anyone cares about happy or who's "right".

I think people were just hoping that a more compelling story would happen other than, "these two girls hook up and it goes fine, and you don't need to worry about it. Or they break up later who gives a fuck."
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>>576489981
i heard yellow added difficulty settings
i havent played it yet. are the different settings just more or less damage or are the patterns harder? also if so is there a good way to play the new version but with the original sprites? i heard they replaced some because 2 minors were sexting eachother so that must mean they have to alter some product that has nothing to do with that
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>>576508765
I was about to go have dinner, anyway. Bye, fren!
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>>576508273
There will be another dark world in the unused classroom later but it won't be Card Kingdom
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>>576508339
That and the fact Toriel and Asgore are the only boss monsters despite them not being the only bosses in the game. It really is only a distinction made for the convenience of the story
Wouldnt a Boss Monster be the monster version of an Aryan when you get down to it
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>>576508748
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>>576508824
Kris made Ralsei. Toby doesn't consider what they have romantic
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>>576508924
Something worse than what you posted.
I would fatsriel off and jiggle his rear.
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>>576508865
He's so cyot
>>576508924
It's not possible. People are gonna lub the gyot until the heat death of the universe. But personally, if chapter 6 and 7 suck ass then I'm out of here
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>>576509020
if only flowery had been a reindeer or a goat instead of a human
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>>576508648
It’s great
Can you untie me now?
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>>576509179
But what part do you like most?
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>>576509135
WRONG! SHUT UP!
SHUT!! UP!!
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The bells of disaster shall toll.
The monsters of hometown try to seek refugee in the shelter, only for it to be a greater danger.
The world will be consumed by darkness.
And no witnesses remain to tell the tale.
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I wish I could like Ralsei. I don't know why I dislike him. I can't enjoy any fanwork if it's focused on Ralsei (unless it's a FRIEND battle take) why am I like this.
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>>576508314
>>576508314
I noticed this too, which I feel like fuels my theory that Noelle was supposed to be the Generic Love Interest girl in RPGs who would be there for the protagonist, in this case us (in the form of the vessel)
It's why there are romantic undertones to the weird route from the start till the end. Not a Soulelle chud or anything
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>>576509014
Boss monsters are the equivalent of the divine right of kings and a diegetic explanation for why there's a "big bad" with stronger stats than everyone else in a monster society. They're not the master race because that's not the trope it's invoking. It can be if you read it in a bad way but some of the lore is explicitly against that being a reading, like the heir thing
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>>576505445
Spamton weightmogging Asgore...
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>>576509308
it does not matter if you like or dislike ralsei so relax
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>>576509221
Uhhh the part where they’re holding hands
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>>576509308
I like Ralsei because he's a particularly kind and caring character that is in a difficult position. Maybe you just don't find that particularly interesting.
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>>576509315
The face she makes right before she gets rejected romantically and told she's not ever going to participate in the game meaningfully or be remembered by anyone fondly.
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>>576509325
Wasnt one of toby's first romhacks about a girl in an rpg figuring out she's in a game and using all of her power to change her last line from saying she loves the protag to loves the player
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>>576509378
Really. Because the hands are drawn wrong so that's weird.
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I would really hope that Toby deconstructs shippingshit because shipping is basically all about reducing characters to objects and arbitrarily pairing them together based on ritualistic aesthetics
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>>576509601
>>576509601
>>576509601
Hop on
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>>576509560
That's not a game, that's a song he made with Itoki Hana called Skies Forever Blue.
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>>576509308
I refuse to like him until the extremely basic question of
>"Why do you look like bimbo asriel?"
Is explained. Until it is, everything about him is just a distraction from that answer
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>>576509615
Well what am I SUPPOSED to like about it?
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>>576509223
flowery is the pathetic, off-brand, worthless knockoff of his cervine superior
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>>576509560
The fuck are you talking about romhack. That's a music video on youtube and it's from 2022
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>>576509673
If I have to TELL you then it's not what YOU like about it.
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>>576509627
holy autismo no fun allowed
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>>576509682
SILENCE, FURFAG! SILENCE!
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>>576509712
My bad I just remember seeing screenshots posted bere
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>>576509325
I agree. I think that Skies Forever Blue is another riff on that idea. The girl in that song conflates the in-game character with the player ("When you made my name the same just as the one you love, then I knew/Maybe to your view I'm just a faintly colored hue that's alright/Even if the only things you say are yes or no/I'll see blue sky") in a way that seems very similar to what's going on in the weird route.
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>>576509308
You have shit taste.
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>>576508273
>Why does Castle Town have a gigantic grand door for a kingdom next door
because the closet has a door to the next room over



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