Your new wife edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:FFXI collab - Until 9/10-The Abhorrent One of Tavnazia, Prishe-Singer of the Rhapsodies, Iroha-Darksteel Hurricane, Zeid>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Hunter who reads the woods, Yrsa - Until 8/126 Heroes of the Vanguard (Alice, Yekaterina, Aldric, Shiou, Galbadus, Gillion) (6% legendary rate) - Until 8/19>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:[Midget Delays] Yrsa/Heinrico/Erwin CC soon[Actual Nyontents] FFXI collab - Until 9/10-New story quest-Story quest part II on 8/13-Relic Weapon crafting-Motherfucking full party heal megalixir (one-time-only)[FREE COLLAB LEGENDARY] check beginning abyss B1[August Roadmap] https://xcancel.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2083116081246577148>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>576447101
We all love Prishe
Imagine a debuff that turned the monsters into cute girls hahaha...
>>576643797I would love Prishe more if she wore high heels
You must tacoAll the tacos
So what's the most common team comp?
NMs didnt respawn today, what the hell
>>576643635HER collab is GREAT
>Take grade exam now>Shoot straight from 40 to 45>Going through story stuff becomes easier>EXP gains fall until enemies catch up to me in level>Mausoleum and FFXI become stupid ideas until I hit 50 since they scale to grade>Stay 40 for a while longer>Mild, but very manageable dungeon crawling experience>Earn more EXP to maybe slingshot straight to 50>Can go farm XI when I get bored of story
>>576643635https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5/artworksEVERYONE ITT IS REQUIRED TO GO THERE AND BRING BACK A PRISHE
benis!
>>576644861It's all porn...
>>576644453for what?
>>576645085farming 8 demoniggas
Money, money, money!
>>576645504yuzu and 5 other placeholders
>>576637237>How does one find out if it's a hidden boon?It's hidden in that some classes display X boons and some display Y boons on registering, and mostly they hide the stat boons that wouldn't matter to that class at all. If you'd want to know what they were anyway you'd just go to the class change menu (if it's a character who can change class) and look for it on the other class's stat display insteadTL;DR: 99% of the time you wouldn't care about the hidden boon while registering a character anyway because the good stats won't have theirs hidden.
>>576645056Amongst all the porn and AIsloppa... there are always gems
>>576646578yuzu thisyuzu thatyou cant even get her right now nigger
>>576643635I'd prefer an Iroha wife please. She's basically Fire Emblem Lucina, or vice versa I guess. I will sleep with my bros time travel daughter.
Did they fuck with accuracy? My thief has 140 acc and is missing like 1 in 30 hits even on A1 enemies
>>576647536There's always a tiny flat chance to missWhy, you ask? Jews, probably
>>576643635cute OP
>>576647536You always have a chance to miss no matter how high your acc is because this game is SOULFUL
I can't believe I'm benching my hyperinvested Shiou for le gremlin creaturaHurts that her alt outfit sucked too
Farming the Shadownigger for the bond mates is fucking tedious.Take damage already you fat fuck.
>>576644861Nice, found the sauce
>>576647840>>576647909epic SHIT
>>576647840>>576647876Really? 4 abysses and I've never noticed it before
>>576647270then wheel back and get her instead of asking dumb questions.
>>576645504Bingo, priest, multiple samurai/rangers, rinne
I'm gonna say itAll bricks are a skill issue, therefore, there are no bricks
>>576648619Yoizou and Gerald would like a word
>>576648619>skill issueMoney issue* with enough inherits anyone is viable.
>>576648221even when you were EVAmaxxing in A3 you still got hit sometimes, usually that doesn't kill you though
I am tired of farmingits time to use THAT and finally get some good alabaster junk and a maxed out snow yoto
30 Ouroboros Ores0 LFAS0 FASminingbros wtf
>>576648783There are niggas in this thread RIGHT NOW using human priest instead of alice, your bricks are just a brick of the light
>>576649587Inheriting non-bricks into bricks doesn't invalidate their brick status, it just makes them a brick house
>>576649951what defines a brick
>>576650586Red and blocky. A healthy disdain for Gods is optional
>click on Clear Cache thinking it'll just clean up some junk, besides there's a more ominous button called "Clear Data" below it>it deletes the whole gamegooks can't program
>>576651563savor the risk
>>576649587lmao no there isn't, posing for a screenshot doesn't mean they're actually being used in hard content.
remind me again, how big is the difference between bamboo splitter lv1 and 3, and POAS lv1 and 3.
>>576652690>bamboo splitter lv1 and 3+50%>POAS lv1 and 3+30%
When?
>>576647224Useful to know. So I should just take a hidden or no boon as not on an ideal stat? Sounds like something I'll start doing. Thank you!
>>576653074That's not always true. Speed boon is hidden on priests and only visible when you check their CC page.
>>576653074There are exceptions, but I forget. I think Priest SPD boon might be hidden in the other class, that's the major one if so
Why is the copper grade exam such a spike, A3 was fully manageable(maybe not poison niggers) but trying the exam was really hopeless. Do I just take the few sp/mp potions I have and hope it's enough to clear the bosses or is there some trick(meta units with 50 inherited skills don't count)
>>576655524You can avoid nearly all trash mobs and most of the enemies in the boss packs should be sleepable.
>>576655524I did that the other day and BARELY scraped by. I avoided every single mob on the map, cleared out the subbosses, and finished with my team totally spent spamming auto attacks and praying to evade.Definitely take SP/MP pots, and expulsion weapons might help you on the final boss too.
>>576655524What A3 ending did you get though? I beat copper grade after beating A3 true end so if you just beat the easiest ending that's doable with pretty poor gear.Get better gear. Meta units mean nothing without good gear. It's probably worth spending the time getting better gear than trying to brute force the exam. You're still getting XP.
How are the new CC?
>>576643797For me, it's Iroha.
Which of you was claiming that fragments are more common than attestations? ignore the shield fragments, they are my last relic to complete
>>576658375>she thinks bread is a shieldcute dumbo
>>576643797Prishe won
>>5766444533 frontline fighters and whatever you like behind.
>>576646578Yuzu does less damage than a fighter who inherited rinne if you don't have the def pen of her pin.
>>576664689She does less damage than a fucking thief who inherited wide volley.
the new voice lines they added are so full of soulI asked for more voices and interactions in the survey but surely they were already working on these a long while ago, it takes awhile to record voice lines no?just hearing more chatter is nice, also seems like there's a lot of new combat voice lines
>>576665448This is why I've been taking Linaria with me. I'm a little sad she isn't an actual bard, but it's still cool hearing the songs from time to time.
How bad is PIE Ihora? I can't get a STR boon.
tonberry king appeared in zone 2 today.
How many prishe do I need to pull?
>>576666597shes garbage no matter what boon she has
>>576666967Garbage is the wrong word, since even at her worst she is a slightly better fighter. But yeah, not worth pulling unless you love her.
>enemies can walk between two tiles>you can't run into them due to this>have to wait for them to u turn and initiate combat>AMBUSHED FROM THE SIDE
Garbage mentioned.
website nyontent
>>576667124>slightly better fightershe doesnt even learn way of the warrior
>go to delivery support>yuzu>yuzu>yuzu>lana>yuzu>lana>benis>lana>alice>yuzu>alice>lana>yeka>yuzu>shiou>benis>yeka>lana
>>576668706What determines what character is shown?
>>576668976if it's like castle then it's the highest power level
>>576668706Shoutout to the one Alex user in the game.
So the thing that lets you open 3 chests in the mausoleum, is that a 1 time cost or you have to repay it every run?
>>576669169holy based
>>576668706I saw an alt rinne user today, looked coolI personally only use beastfolk though
>>576668490Non-issue, you could feed her an inherit pretty easy if you wanted. Granted I wouldn't use her in the first place but if you were gonna it's better to have something like skill link that you can't inherit than way of the warrior out of the box.
What kind of name is RipVanWinkle anyway. It's like a gay pornstar name.
>>576669445It's too soon for you to be awake. Go back to sleep.
>>576668706Crazy inflated power yuzus for anyone running her gacha weapon else older characters people have high disc on for big +power
>potato fighter
>>576668490You say that like she doesn't have overwhelm and skillchain bonus
>>576669637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad0w59lBfXU
>>576669445clothing store in Shibuya. maybe john bought his clothes there.
>>576648783Gerard isn't a brick, he's still a fighter/knight which is one of the best combos
>>576669169Is there a way to tell who your character is?
*benis*
>>576656779I know there are long dry periods, but I don't think most people were tackling the grade up/A4 with +20 perfected ebony gear. Finishing guarda with the "good" ending actually required barely any gear(thank god since the junk there was terrible) I only started upgrading past +5 due to event junk giving me some passable pieces. The big spike just made me wonder if there was some trick/mechanic that just went over my head.
>>576672334To be honest I didn't feel any spike at all really. It's content where evasion still works very well and as long as you had 120-150 evade you were near untouchable by anything aside from spells.
>>576672334What good ending though? Guarda is definitely easy at higher corruption but +5? +5 weapons even? That's a little silly to still be using if you want to beat the exam. You're probably undergeared. If you could beat 6 corruption or less that's another story, you shouldn't be having problems then.There isn't a trick aside from just killing all of the guys near the portals separately so the Necrocore is alone.I definitely didn't have perfect gear at all btw, but I had +15/20 weapons for sure. That's the most important thing to aim for. It doesn't take much of a grind to get decent gear.
>>576672334I rocked late Guarda and early A4 on +10 ebony gear with underwhelming blessings. It's really not a big deal if you use Nourishing Draughts and other items in between fights when exploring. I've played like a billion dungeon crawlers so maybe that's the difference. HA lvl 3 frontline is enough dps to beat everything until the wolf bullshit fight.
>>576674063Granted, I feel like the exam is harder than anything A4's first run throws at you aside from the wolf. It's just more of a gauntlet that drains your resources so it demands more efficiency.
>>576674234You can just normal attack everything in the exam as long as you aren't dying. SP really shouldn't be an issue.
>>576674592the nigga is dying dude he has +5 ebonsteel weapons
>>576670128i think its supposed to be the character in your squad with the highest power?
>>576674707The weapons aren't the issue, you could probably do it bare handed if your evasion is enough for A3.
i hope the next abyss brings some offense back to mage/thief. ESS solves like 99% of the problems
>>576674763well he's dying and he clearly can't normal attack everything because he has +5 weaponsit's a gear issue regardless
>>576674965I don't think you can fix thief's damage. It's weapon selection just sucks. You don't do damage unless you have real 2h or overtuned personal skills.
>>5766765122H daggers
>>576676637Having to directly compete for front row slots would make it's issues even worse. Best case is it gets crossbows/greatbows or some shit.
>>5766767232H daggers can be thrown and work with all regular thief skills
>>576676512The problem with thieves is that a fully invested MC makes their entire class irrelevant. I think they're unsalvageable by now, and just passive merchants for other classes.
>>576678635The entire class is irrelevant for two reasons, first stone traps aren't around in recent content. Second they do no fucking damage(because the devs thought it was brilliant to make all their new skills based around status effects that never fucking land and do low damage even if they do). And then to add insult to injury all their best skills can be inherited to anyone anyway. I still bring deb around everywhere though.
>>576676512 add action speed to atk they did it for ninjas and savia with eva, rangers with acc and knights with def/mdef
>>576676512If they could use dagger as an offhand unconditionally they could potentially have a role by being able to stack weapon effects. Even their base stats are kinda shit, they need something pretty fucking strong to have a reason to exist.
thief-only chests would make thief valuable but I would definitely hate itor an extra puzzle in chests to get more loot only with thieves
>>576682621Or even just a chance at more junk, kind of like how it's got a chance at more sellables. Could also add locked doors they can pick.
>>576682735I'm hoping for an ability that auto-opens the chest if you outskill it by enough.
>>576683581That's already how it works.
Why the FUARK can't you cleanly exit this game anymore? It keeps showing as Running until I close Steam entirely.
>>576684232Works on my machine.
>>576684285It worked exactly once after i reinstalleded then the problem started happening on all of my machines.
too much... nyontents...nyuuuuu...
>>576683623according to whomst? I have 154 disarm and I still get the minigame in Abyss 1.
Just started and am overwhelmed; can bonus points be reset at a later date or do I need to spend a bunch of time researching how to optimally distribute stats for a game I'm uncertain to like or continue playing in the future?
>>576687024>Just started and am overwhelmed; can bonus points be reset at a later dateyes if you merge it with a character's alternate style. it's best to think that you only have 1 chance to redistribute it>do I need to spend a bunch of time researching how to optimally distribute stats for a game I'm uncertain to like or continue playing in the future?yes this game is excellent at filtering shittersevery character you roll for has an IVthat means they have a higher growth in a certain stat and it's different for each character rolledhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/adventurers/quicklist/adventurer-quicklist/#__tabbed_1_2you can check each character's base stats here. if they have 1 point higher in a stat that means they have an IV in that stat and it will grow better in that stat than other copies. this is important if you wish to min-maxbut sometimes an IV is hidden, meaning you might have an IV in that stat but you don't actually a +1 in that stat so it's hard to telldo you feel overwhelmed now? just quit
>>576687024Bonus points don't really matter, but no. The only way to reset bonus points is to merge with an alternate style of the same adventurer, like Lanavaille with Wandering Princess Lanavaille.Speed is always safe. Everyone wants speed.
>>576687024Like most RPGs that do this it's more impactful at low levels when every stat point counts, and becomes less of a deal as you get to endgame. At that point it's probably a 5% damage difference between an optimized +10 bonus stats character and a +5 that put it all in bad stats. When in doubt, throw it in SPD for basically everyone, but it's common sense beyond that. A Fighter likes STR, a Mage likes IQ.
>>576687024Nope. But when in doubt just dump them all into damage stat or speed.
>>576687024To ad to what the other anons are saying, know that stat gains on levels are also random.Dont stress about IV's and bonus points, the vast majority of practical stats will come from gear.
>>576687579>do you feel overwhelmed now? just quitThere's so many moving parts on the smaller, things that aren't too relevant in the bigger picture. Just like older RPGs, they make you choose stats before you know how relevant said stats are. Given that I cannot reset points, I'm considering using a non-legendary team to learn the game and how impactful the different stats are for the classes. Poor game design if you ask me. I probably should quit>>576687612>>576687872>>576687951Sounds like I should dump everything on speed. Are there any exemptions to that? Do the fast classes also want speed?
>>576688130>Just like older RPGs [...] Poor game design if you ask meThis game isn't going to be for you
>>576688130More speed is better, if you're fast enough you can start getting double turns. This also means if you're slow enough the enemy can start getting double turns.
>>576688130There's an in game glossary that tells you what all the base stats do, its actually pretty good and covers quite a lot of things.BP loses impact pretty quickly, but pumping speed lets you comfortably outspeed most packs you run into at the start of the game, which is helpful for everybody.In the lategame more speed is never bad to have, but STR is great for two-handed damage, INT is nice for casters and Knights are a bit of a special case in that they like having extra LUCK for their cover skills.
>>576688397So I can't really go wrong with speed? That's very useful information.>>576688614>There's an in game glossary that tells you what all the base stats doDoesn't help too much because I don't know the nuances of the different classes and how they and their skills might scale. Whatever, I'll just dump everything in speed and completely ignore this mechanic henceforth.
>>576688130As long as you are putting it into speed or damage you can always compensate for the other with gear later on so they are never bricks. It's not gonna be something hugely massive either way as you progress though. I wouldn't stress too much.
>>576688884Truth be told we don't really know much about the scaling either we're kind of going off vibes. Even the data miners are like "Well it's doing SOMETHING".
>>576687024just ask /wigz/ and their 2 years of accumulated autism knowledge will point you to the way
>>576687024you should buy a starter account desu for like 10 usd you can get 600 rolls
>>5766893012 usd gets you 200 gem rolls and 200 regular boner pullsit's much easier as a barrier of entry price than commiting a 10 usd
>>576689434damn they got that cheap?
>>576688895I just try to learn a game's systems to improve my knowledge and understanding but I think that's the wrong approach in this game. There's so many shallow mechanics that are present (alignment, death mechanic, boons, bonus points, etc) that I feel like a fool for even bothering to try to understand. As >>576687579 put it, it's a new player filter. Remove the majority of the mechanics listed and I doubt anything with be lost and it would make for a smoother new player experience.>>576688945On one hand, that's silly. On the other hand, the most memorable and soulful games I've played were those that had a community come together to decipher how things work in a game. Man, Digimon World was a fun time when all information was either wrong or conflicting.>>576689038I'd love to ask about team comps because I need to build a team and I have soooo many characters to choose from.>>576689301>>576689434I did buy one. Managed to get 2 of the collab characters and will be able to choose the 3rd one with the free selector thing. I paid €~7 for 69,000 gems and over 140 bones. Pretty good deal. I still have over 40,000 gems that I don't know what to do with. Do any of the collab characters want any of the equipment? I have ~150 exchange points and don't know what to use em on.
>>576689858you should save your rolls for the anniversary in October and save your reg bones for the double legend event that will for sure 100% come back btw (lol)
>>576690402>save your reg bones for the double legend eventWell they're gone... That's what I get to listening to my friend's advice about rolling on the perma banners. Trying to tell me to split my rolls between them evenly between the two banners. I dumped over 130 bones into the second banner and all I got was Benis and Lana dupes. I'm missing the other 4...
>>576689858Well i'm kind of half joking, we've got a pretty good understanding of a lot of the game.For team comps, generally you can pick whoever you like based on vibes. Every general adventurer has a unique passive, and legendaries have a unique passive AND a legendary inheritable skill, but beyond that a fighter is a fighter. A lot of the general adventurers can rival legendaries and several of them are outright meta picks. Anonymous adventurers are worse because they dont' get class changes, but some of them like Human-Sam are still usable just because nobody else has that element/race/class combination.>>576690629That's a joke, the double legend event happened over a year ago and it's almost certainly never coming back. Though there is a case for saving bones for Adventurer Bones 3 whenever that comes out.
just realized that the relic weapon reforgestrength doesnt go up to level 4,what is the point of the frags ?
>>576690752>several of them are outright meta picks.which is why every team ever posted itt is filled with nothing but legendaries.
>>576690629don't worry the double legendary event isn't coming backit's been over a year and it only happened once
>>576691135Level 3 is ebonsteel base. You need level 4 to reach Silver tier.
>>576691240Sounds like a you problem
>>576691240That's because the legendaries are cuter.
>>576691637
>>576691240Most of the meta ones are ones you wouldn't bring everywhere but when they are good they are really good, shit like Clarissa when you need status resistance or Amelia if we ever get another event with annoying chests.
Are you gwos altering the relic bow? Torn between leaving it as is or giving it another ACC line if I wanna use it on ranger yuzu
>>576691637heinrico is better in every sense than yrsa but no one is using the nigger
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>>576692038Yrsa is the boss killing ranger (if you don't have Yuzu) and Heinrico is the farming ranger.
>>576691637the legendaries tend to be, yeah. But a few of the general ones are fine. I really like Camille
>>576691379o thanks, alright thats an interesting way of doing it
>>576692125heinrico gets +25% damage thanks to his thief class changeyrsa gets jackshit from fighter
>>576691981I just left it as is since it's gonna live on debra.
>>576691981I altered aspd to surety.
>>576692125>(if you don't have Yuzu)Is it worth class changing yuzu to ranger? I've never actually bothered with the class. Wouldn't ranger ruin her special attack since bows have low hit count?
>>576692630only if your chest opener is yuzu because ranger gives some detect and accuracyotherwise no
>>576692630It'll be meta when the multi hit bow releases, right now it's a good alternative if you don't have the hairpin.
>>576692630Depends on if you have the hairpin or not. Bows have a lot more attack power than kunai so it's kind of a wash.
>>576692630Hairpin>Ranger>Ninja no hairpin
>>576692630Its worth for her cute outfitNo other unit has the same outfit so you know how loved she is by JD
>I got hurt!>I'm okay now!
>come back to the game>they took away Sexy Lana's end of battle healthanksalso did they wise up and make you build more than one party to play the game like the (((chinks))) do
>>576692685>>576692781>>576692823>>576693000>>576693045I see. Guess I can always change her back later if it doesn't work out. If nothing else more passives is more passives.
>>576693090>they took away Sexy Lana's end of battle healno they didn'tfor multiple party content there was the colliseum but it's unclear if they'll revisit it
>>576693090>they took away Sexy Lana's end of battle healNo they didn't? They gave her a new skill, and basically let you choose whether to shift your skill XP to the new skill or keep the heal levels; not sure how that worked if you didn't log in when it happened though.
>>576693090They changed the inherits of all the alternate styles to incentivize you to pull more than one copy of them. It just means you have to pull normal lana to level up the heal.
>>576693261>>576693464yeah i saw the new skill and no sign of the old in the status screen. i'll check the training room later
>>576693640They unmerged everyone's lanas. Check to see if you have a regular lana you didn't have before.
>>576693640it happened automatically, if you had a merged Lana it kept the heal at your current level, if you didn't it got converted into the new skill if I remember it right.
How's this team?Prishe, Iroha, MC as thief (?)Alice, Shelirionach, Yekaterina (one of them, I have both)For legendaries, I also have the following: Debra, Adam, both Lanas, Abenius, and Livana. I'll be able to get Zeid, too.
>>576693875Didn't that have something to do with the discipline passive or bonus points or something? They unmerged and gave everyone 10 bonus points, the wlana skill change came later.
>>576693920Iroha is a spear user so she can go in the backline but generally I think triple caster is overkill unless you do very specific content where you need more heals or more aoe, could do thief mc in the back with a bow or something
are there leaks or videos of the upcoming monk class?
>>576693920Thief MC is kinda dubious, especially in the frontlineIt can work for the first 3 abysses because evasion works there, but for Abyss 4 it'll be dogshitJust invest a bunch of trap detect/disarm on MC or one of your other backliners and you can skip a thief eventually, my Flut has 150 detect
>>576693920drop 1 spell caster and shift MC to the back. Add benis, lana or livvy
>>576694418Leak??? In this game????
>>576694418Not that I've seen. Maybe it'll show up at anniversary.
>>576694418Bold of you to assume the monk class has even started development. I wonder how much it's gonna differ from prishe since fist man was wildly different from sam.
So we are no men, undeads, or ghosts. What are we?
>>576694342>>576694664>>576694682So it's pretty clear that I need to cull a backliner; I'm guessing it's between Shelirionach and Yekaterina? Which of those do I keep? If I move the MC to the back, which of my listed legendaries would best compliment my team? Would Zeid work? Would be fun enough to use the 3 of them given that I'm starting on their banner.
>>576695104When in doubt, pick with your dick.
>>576694825>>576695023I'm kinda new... so I have I better not get my expectations high then.
>>576695104keep whichever you like moredespite what metaniggers tell you, alice isn't exactly mandatory.Sheli is great for long dungeon crawls and newfriends and f2p because of her mp heal. She also makes one of the later grade up quests a cake walk. Yek is a fat bitch (affectionate). Alice has her row buff and and extended duration (but you can just feed her to other units to get +1 turn)For the frontliner pick, meta would be Lana. Benis if you ever pick up her alt later. Zeid I can' comment, but again, if you like'em, use 'em is the name of the game.I skipped out on yuzu and is doing fine all things considered, but people would say I'm living in brick city. The only reason I haven't cleared A4 true end was because I was waiting for a good Camille to drop.
>>576695087An adventurer.
>>576695104Yek>better element(light and dark buck the trend in most gacha by being weak to each other, so the standard elements end up better)>access to secret art, giving her an AOE while a priest>chance to block ambushesShelly>ability to survive the occasional attack that would kill her>can refill her MP and do special spellsBoth can become priests so they are both good. Pick the one you like more for your second caster.>>576695331Leaks are mostly a chinese/sometimes korean gacha thing, japanese gacha don't do the whole "oops some future content 'leaked'" thing as marketing, usually.
>>576695331there's no leaks in this game. Sometimes there's a datamine but that's it.
>>576695559There were leaks in the very beginning during the broken era.And I guess accidentally releasing tonberry king could be a leak.
>>576695664Bugs aren't leaks. We absolutely have bugs. Holy fuck do we have bugs.
>>576695331This game announces a character 24 hours before release. Via a silhouette.
>>576695712remember when we used to have 2k gems handed out every other week
are these guys even worth killing? it takes me ages to defeat one. Also tomberries. one appeared and gave up after noticing it has over 2k of hp
>>576695767and only one banner to spend them on
>>576696529They drop attestations and fragments needed to reforge the relic weapons. Tonberries drop Necropsyches, also needed to reforge the relic weapons.
>>576696618are the relic weapons strong? as a level 40 (copper rank) can I get enough to forge one?
>>576696529yeah they drop the rare stuff you need
>>576695468>>576695530Sounds like it might be worthwhile to use Shelly as a beginner. I'll add Benis to my frontline as she really wanted to be on my account (3 copies). that should be serviceable until at least the mid-game, right?
>>576696703it'll be fine until endgame, all things considered. Not many things 4 fighters and 2 casters can't handle, really. If anything you'd probably want to raise a Camille if you get her and you'll get to clear all the contents that aren't for whales.
>>576696676They're 4 star red silver tier if you can get them reforged all the way. They're very nice but not totally game changing at endgame.Drops scale with grade though, so you might be better off trying to get through the main story before grinding for them, assuming you meant bronze rank since copper rank is the current endgame.
>>576696676Very strong, its a grind to get them but they'll basically be best in slot until Abyss 5 comes out.
>>576696676Relic weapons(fully upgraded) are equivelent to silver weapons in stats and come with both a passive and a special attack. Also they come 4* with decent blessings. If you can, it's absolutely worth it for a new player to grind them since you are essentially getting a pre built no RNG end game weapon.
>>576696846>>576696854>>576696863thanks. yeah I'm bronze... I will try to advance to the next rank
>>576696676I think you'll want to uncap to the 50-60 at least since it'll let you farm at least attestments that can be traded for fragments. Fragments (required for the final tier) drops after you reach the final uncap tier iirc
Time to do this shit again.
>>576696841Thanks to and everyone else for the assistance!last question: given that Prishe is a new class, would her weapon be worthwhile? I don't know what to do with my exchange points...
>>576697114Depends on if you want or lack the other characters. It's not a bad pickup if you don't care about more characters but also if you get a good silver cestus drop that's also fine(assuming you can even farm that yet, if not then go for it). It's not a mandatory weapon for her to work like Yuzu's pin though, and you are gonna be limited on how much you can upgrade it.
>>576697114The gacha exchange weapons are Silver tier, so even capped at +10 they'll be very strong for a new player for a long whileIf you're farming the event as a player at the current level cap it's not very hard to get generic Silver tier Cesti that will outclass it, but I think you're limited on the kind of junk you get from the event so you won't be able to unless you rush through all content while the event is going on
>>576697114yes imo, just because dropping extra time to farm the collab dungeon for a good silver cesti is a pain with all the things on your plate right now as a newfriend. After the dungeon ends who knows how long it will be until monks come out and you get to get good weapons for her.If you were an oldstinky then farming up a good silver cesti is just fine and dandy, but you aren't I don't think.
the summer skin last year was at the end of August, Right?so it should be like this:1. second part of FF event2.Erwin class change3.Summer Skins
>>576697241>>576697297aren't +10 (base silver) gacha weapons equivalent to +20 silver normal weapons or is that only for specific ones? I only ever used Durandal
>>576697114It's basically a cheat weapon for new players, it's incredibly strong compared to what you can find normally but currently it's also pretty much the only way you're going to get a good silver tier weapon for her unless you nolife the game for a month.
>>576697407The generic silver cesti actually has slightly more base attack but lacks the skill. Assuming you actually get a good one to drop and raise it to +20 it's soundly better. But that's a lot of grind considering a newbie would have actually get to the point where they can even start grinding first.
>>576697407I'm not sure on the exact breakpoints, but for most a +20 will be better than a Gacha +10, at least in terms of raw attack and especially in terms of blessing potential, like even if you're insanely lucky and get a gacha weapon at 3-4 stars and with decent statlines you're only able to upgrade the first two lines, while you can farm for a 4* blue/purple Silver weapon with decent lines and then upgrade itOnly gacha weapons with insane properties like Yuzu's hairpin are better or equivalent at +10
If I intend to use the Relic Bow on Fighter Yrsa/Thieves, then there's no need for me to alter the Atk% right?
>>576697849You don't have to but I just changed it to ASPD.
>>576697849There is no reason to alter the attack line period. If you were gonna alter a line it would be action speed.
>>576697241Do we know if the characters and weapons are permanent? I'll have all 3 collab characters once I redeem the last one so I have no idea what to use the exchange points on. If in the off chance the characters are limited, it would be nice to try and get their weapons.>>576697297>The gacha exchange weapons are Silver tierIs that the highest tier or do they eventually get outclassed by better gear? If it gets outclassed I'd rather not piss away 100 exchange points.>If you're farming the eventCan I even farm the event as a completely new player?>>576697325>If you were an oldstinkyNah, I completed the tutorial and bought an account at that point. I'm in the analysis paralysis phase of the game where I need a team and have to consider how to use my existing resources (exchange points).>>576697492Are weapons for the other 2 FFXI characters any good? How about the equipment?>It's basically a cheat weapon for new playersNow I'm considering playing the game only using non-legendaries to not rob myself of the early game experience. Can I make it work?
>>576695023Neutralman was basically just a fighter chassis with some spells anyway, Prishe has a lot more new shit in her kit and animations.
>>576695559JD did leak the 3 collab character classes through sheer incompetence.
>We're out a whole bunch of money! I hate having to live frugally.
>>576697918Everything collab related won't be obtainable after the event ends, the generic fist weapons will be in other junk once the monk class(or whatever ends up using it) comes out though. The event may rerun in the future but we don't know if or when that would be.>is that the highest tierCurrently yes. There will be a new tier when the next abyss drops but even when that happens it will take time for you to get shit to replace it with.
>>576697905>>576697916Why am I getting mixed signals off of this
>>576697918the game has no shortage of situations where it's absolutely pushing your shit in if you aren't a gigawhale that has everyone with 20 dupes. 1 strong weapon won't really change that I don't think. MAYBE it'll dogwalk the first 2 abysses aside from the funny surprises... But A1 and A2 are basically tutorialsNon legendaries are actually pretty competitive and some are even damn good like chloe and kiriha, since you can get high disciplines for them. They're just a little boring. By no means are non-legendary playthroughs an immediate handicap.
>>576698167Because 4chan isn't one person. I'm of the opinion that more aspd is better, but some people don't like to have aspd on weapons because they like to fine tune their turn order.
>>576698167Different people who value different things and probably have different stat spreads on the rest of their gear. >are you going fast enough>will more speed let you act twice or notThese determine if more action speed matters to you or not.>do you want more damageThis determines if you want to keep the attack line or not.
>>576698026you too, huh?
>>576698092How was the blade and bastard collab handled? Are the characters and equipment unobtainable or did it become permanent content?>There will be a new tier when the next abyss dropsDoes all the gacha gear become trash at that point or are they able to be levelled to the higher tier? If they can't be upgraded it would be stupid to bother with them. If they can be upgraded, I might consider getting all the collab weapons.>>576698225It sounds like fun to do an non-legendary playthrough. I imagine it might slow my progress but it's better than breezing through the game, I guess.
>>576697918>Are weapons for the other 2 FFXI characters any good? How about the equipment?Nothing special but they're also silver tier so a lot stronger than what you can get. Gacha armor isn't really worth getting compared to the weapons.>non-legendariesIt gets a bit easier with legendary teams and it isn't really that hard in the first place but If you want a somewhat authentic 1.0 experience you pick 1 or 2 legendaries from the bone 1 pool and use non legendaries for the rest of your team.
>>576698342I FUCKING LOVE GOOD WOMEN.ANNIVERSARY WILL BE ANOTHER GOOD WOMAN FIGHTER
Wheeling back to the end of hatred, is my party supposed to hate me slightly in the dungeon now? I completed it with zero hate already, and the gorgon and alignment door outcomes don't appear as wheel options.Don't tell me I need to run through the whole thing to farm bondmates.
>>576698614Once the event ended the characters and dungeon went away. It did rerun about a year later though, both the characters and event. On rerun in addition to the old characters we got a new style of berka and ainikki, along with everyone's class changes. The dungeon also get more content and new rewards.>I imagine it might slow my progressOutside of a few characters with busted special moves, not really. Legendary characters are still 95% the same as general adventurers. Like take the collab characters for instance, 2 of them are just fighters with some tweaks and the last one is a prototype monk(hard to say how similar she will be but you can assume at least part of her kit will carry over).
>>576698749>he is a good cuckLook at him and laugh
>>576698824You shouldn’t need to, I just wheeled back to right before the Shadowlord without any issues last night.
>>576698342do not be fooledeven though they are hidden under fine clothing there are 2 buttholes in this picture
>>576698749I'll drink to that
>>576698614B&B is slightly different since Drecom owns that, but it was run last year, and then reran this year about a year later.
>>576698749Anniversary will be a third Lanavaille alt with an AOE skill and 2 hit 2h gacha weapon.
>>576698965hmmmmnyoanniversary unit will be an evil cat
Anni will be neutralchad's time to shine. It's our turn.
>>576699105>neutral>chadjust say that you're a fence sitter incapable of thinking for himself gwo
Anniversary will be a Male Ranger named Hercules.
>>576699179Truly, the archer class is made up of archers.
>>576698934Virtuous milk...
>>576699105Neutral Fairy Monk is the best I can do.
>>576699335As long as it's female.
Well, double ASPD isn't bad but it's going on a dps so I'd rather get offensive stats. Should I LAS it or not ?
>good womengood for childbearing and mothering. they will give you nursing handjobs and handholding sex.>neutral womeneven more boring than good women, they are a starfish in the bed. at least you can do anything you want to them.>evil womenexpect mindblowing sex, rimjobs and the realization of your wildest sexual fantasies and more. downside? the baby might not be yours
>>576698891>>576698958I might get all the weapons, then. I have gems to burn.
>>576699678>marry good women>kill neutral women>fuck evil womenIt's as shrimple as that
>>576699608No way. Triple aspd it.
>>576699678For me it's pleasuring emotionless neutral women until they can't hold back their moans.
>>576700617>bracelet of hatred>actually turns you into shadow hedgehog
how big is zeid's butthole?
>>5767017942.52
>>576699678>N-neutral women bad at sex!!!!Explain Yek?
>>576699608just get all the aspd you need on body and leg parts since they cant roll damage statsalso not worth for LAS, theres still a lot of time left to farm more
>>576699919>Fuck Linaria>wake up next morning whit your house stolen
>>576702149bwo she literally just let Dean hit whenever and popped out 4 kidsshe's deadfish core
>>576702149doctor was giving dean rimjobs
I still don't understand why it costs 400 quids to rename niggas
>>576704657wanted to rename Abenius to Benis D:should have been 100 gem at most, 400 is too steep
imagine if Zeid decided to mating press Berkanan
Is there a consensus on best pick from the FFXI collab bone?
>>576704958they're give birth to a child the size of godefroi>>576705146Unironically Arboris. No joke. But meta is a neutralcuck's way to play.
>>576704958Galkas are literally dickless.
>>576705146Prishe probably.
>>576705146Purely from a meta perspective, Arboris. Pick whoever you like the most or Arboris if you're unsure since you can give his skill to other adventurers if you don't want to use him. No need to choose right away the event won't end soon.
>>576705146Iroha if you are a newfag just starting out and still running around a1 confused and lostZeid if you are somewhat established in a2/3 and need some extra musclePrishe if you are in a4 and have the ability to farm a good silver fist weaponRed beard if you are currently building a house and lack bricksAboris if you want to feed him to someone else to make them metaAbenius if you want to become a benis poster
>>576706539telling newpipis to get benis is evil considering she's in standard bones
>>576706748I wont stop a would be benis poster from achieving their final form
What level can you safely bring collab units to the castle to level and they are not dead weight?
>>57670747940 for me, since that's enough hp to not get oneshot by stray off-screen mob attacksbut I brought them in from level 1 because I'm not a pussy
>>576705146Arboris, specifically to feed to Alice.His inherited skill is essential infrastructure if you want to lap bosses.
man i hope i get a 100 fort shiou this time so i can start leveling her in earnest>but fort doesn't matte-i have autism. also i notice they removed the ligma tiles from mausoleum kek
>>576708029fortitude does matter since the lower your fortitude the more stats you get80 fort is the meta now swo
>>576708330Except there’s no real noticeable difference when you look at the nip leveled character DB between fort amounts.80 is just a brick.
Abeniuspussy ()butthole o
>It's real
>>576710579>Not using gold pickaxesNGMI
>>576710579>Not using gold pickaxespermanent account damage
>>576710679I'm saving to get all the exp books.
benis
>>576702153Since it's a rare item don't see myself looting another 4* anytime soon but yeah, I'll at least wait until the event ends to spend a LAS, not like I need a ring right now >>576700617I'll pass but I admit it would be funny, would have done it in a heartbeat if it was a caster ring tho
>>576711554>I'll pass but I admit it would be funnygwo action speed stacking is the new metayou are actively bricking if you reroll stats
I went through multi 99 stacks of gold pickaxes and 1000s of normal pickaxes after that and still no LFAS or FASi hAVe ForTy oUroBOrOs oRe i'Ll nEVeR uSe, tHoUGh...
>>576712556oh shit he's warping.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b7Oluf9_Ss
>>576712895WHERE IS THE PEDO PRIEST CHASE MUSIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWHY NO ONE HAS UPLOAD IT YET!?!?!?!?
How the fuck are you even getting the gil for this crap, even trading off frags and attestations you get like 10k at most.
>>576713819frag trades are 9k gil EACH, you just spam as many as you can after relics are done
>>576713819like this.
>>576714290And then you have to wait a whole day to do it again. That's only like 99 gold axes by the way.
what's the point of remaking and resetting your relic weapon?
>>576714392Yeah, it was multiple days of gilThe mining gods hate me for not using dwarves I guess
>>576714492Wiping the Enhancements if you get a 1 SUR rollAltering if you screwed up and went to 15 without doing it
Since this event began I got 1 FAS and 3 LFAS.
>>576714492If you low roll it's an option. I don't think it's worth it unless you are a hardcore minmaxxer though.
Why does everyone's grudge trigger from prishe's attacks but not my 2h niggas?
>>576714861>3-12 >1-5The range is shit enough for it to matter even if you don't minmax.
>>576715169You aren't gonna miss 9 attack or whatever.
>>576715328I would, you are free to go around with bricked gear that has a free reroll mechanic though.
>>576715565>freeIt costs an additional half a relic worth of mats and like 3m gold plus 10 orobouros ores
>>576648352>wheel back and get her??Yuzu isn't available right now, I thought?
>>576715836kek
FlashFLASHFlash!!
>>576715836dumbass
>>576715836someone please kill this gwo so he can wheel back to yuzu banner.
>>576715059It seems RNG if it triggers or not.
>>576715836>>576716103>>576716414>>576716437I'm new to this game please don't bully me
>>576692630Bow foxfire is strong.Wide volley / penetrating shot combined with foxfire is great for large groups of enemies. Hue's randomness with only 2 hits is really bad for groups.Hairpin ninja is probably still better, but I haven't compared mine yet.
>>576716678Why didn't we get Lilisette instead of Iroha...
>>576716841because Iroha's model is a rip from Dissidia Duellum, which was ripped from FFXIV'sHD Prishe and Castle Zvahl were ripped from FFXIV's raidsLilisette hasn't been modeled for anything whereas Prishe and Iroha are the defacto XI reps alongside Shantotto.
>>576716841More like Lilisette instead of smelly ugly belongs-in-the-mines-where-he’ll-never-see-the-light-of-the-sun-again Zeid?
>do a tenner on six niggas>piety IV alicewaow based?
>>576717205Prishe doesn’t look anything like la creatura del YoshiP who is incredibly ugly even by HRT Fantasy XIV standards.
>>576712185I'm not sure about that gwo...
Thanks for the help earlier with the selector question bwos. I just got super lucky and ripped Zeid off of a free scroll, is there anyone I can replace for him since I heard he's pretty good? I just beat the boss on B2.
>>576717205>Iroha's model is a rip from Dissidia Duellum, which was ripped from FFXIV'sThe is the most incorrect, retarded statement I have heard in a long time
Shadowlord really sucks with his no physical damage barrier.Do enchant katana still work since its magic-ish?
>>576717241Gotta have some male rep for the fujos bro.
>>576717637If you replace anyone with zeid it'd have to be prishe. All 3 of the collab characters are front line fighters.
>>576717637Zeid good, but he's basically incompatible with Lana who you're going to get more use out of right now. I'd just wait.
>>576717718I just shot him with inherited rinne cum.
>>576717718>Scroll of Blizzaga
>>576717718No.Just turtle for the 1-4 rounds it takes for him to randomly switch back.And then hope to god you can burst him down after Implosion before he switches back.
>Blizzagabased>Blizzard IIIyikes kys
>>576718131That shit does like 200 damage tops.
>>576717637>I just got super lucky and ripped Zeid off of a free scroll, is there anyone I can replace for him since I heard he's pretty good?he is but lana gives +10% dmg row buff for neutral/good allieszeid is evil so if you put zeid on the frontline you end up disabling her buffand he isn't good in the backline because he cant use spears
>>576717637you could do some tomfoolery likeprishe/alice/zeid frontlineand lana/mc/yeka backline if you really want to use zeidarboris is better used as an inherit fodder anyway, his inherit is sick but he himself isnt that good
Finally got around to clearing abyss 3 and grading up to Copper.I still have a Knight Lana, and a class change scroll.Do I use the FFXI event to level another knight up before class changing to clear the Knight trials, do I put her on Fighter now, do the Fighter trials first and then swap her back to Knight for abyss 4? I have Gerard and Savia, unleveled, rotting in my box. What do?
>>576719263farm the relic weapons first because they are time limited
>>576717637>is there anyone I can replace for himJust Prishe.You'd also have to swap Lana to the back and Alice to the front in order to use him because he can't be in the back row.>I heard he's pretty good?He's alright. His self buffs eat up his turns and he's really fucking slow, so he might be dependent on getting speed buffs from Alice and Arboris to keep up in boss fights.>>576718604Arboris is worth using until the end of A2 even if you plan to give his skill to someone else later on. Also the WT buff from his skill is twice as strong when he uses it, so he's actually a pretty good unit beyond his fodder.
>>576719595Yes, but >>>>weOnly like blue women, not blue men.
>>576717205Half of this seems wrong, but it makes me wonder if they won't do a Lodoss collab with Pirotess and Deedlit because they'd have to start from scratch to model them...
>>576669169I think I'm gonna be the second one gwos
>>576717205
>>576717205>HD Prishe and Castle Zvahl were ripped from FFXIV's raidsNo they fucking weren't. Zvahl is ONE ROOM in the ivalice raids and it looks nothing like that, and prishe's model is noticeably different.
>>576721784damn, wiz prishe mogs xiv prishe
i dont understand yuzufagshow could you let someone in your party who exchanged saliva, bodily fluids and god knows what else with hundreds if not thousands of fat hairy old men for some information?she might as well be a fat balding old man herself because of all the DNA that was shot inside her
>>576722064Well, keep in mind that as an MMO, they're going to have way more characters on screen at once, so models have to be worse.But yeah the hair and eye color are more cartoonish in XIV, and they gave her the Elzen giraffe neck.
>>576722239when you reverse the bones all the foreign bodies gets left behindthe evil women are pure until they relapse into their old ways behind your back
>>576722239>sees a sexy fox>starts thinking of old menLet me guess, you're neutral.
>>576721289got your nose :D
>>576722239>fanfictionShe was a dancer, not a whore.
>>576721084I actually like Alex quite a lot and used him the start, but I didn't have room for both him and Gilion in the party and Gilion is frankly cooler.
>>576722826bet you believe women when they tell you their body count is 1
>>576722239Those old men? All me
>>576722826she was called the princess of the flower district which is a reference to the red light districtim sure japanese warlords visited this place just to watch women dance on their dicks
>>576723031that's only a concern when yours is lower.
>>576721784Wizardry Prishe gives a very bratty Loli vibe
>>576722239She does 9k+ damage a turn, she can sleep with a 1000 other men for all I care.Livana on the other hand is for me and me alone.
>>576722826Japan likes to sanitize geisha as performers but historically they performed the role of a cheaper Oiran its where the law against sex work came from in that era because Oiran paid taxes for their sexwork geisha did not.
>>576722064XIV is just an incredibly ugly game with an utter lack of any art style these days.
>>576723241She is. She's cursed to never age.
>>576722826bro thinks people spilled all their secrets just to watch some girl danceshe probably started giving them head and stopped just before they were about to finishand told them she'll only finish them off after they gave out all the information she wanted obviously there was more subtlety going on but that was the gist of itafter that she was probably a good girl who swallowed every last drop
can you buy ebonsteel rings somewhere?I was doing inventory clearance, ended up with a purple 4star ebonsteel ring with ATK ATK% SUR do I have to go back to grind separation or something
cheers
>>576726761is left a man?
Fuck this dude. Making me get out of autobattle because they refuse to actually target him until all his skeletons are dead.
Can we collab with slay the spire next? I game mode like that sounds fun
>>576722239I'm a boomer who only wants a good bitch who is pleasant and will suck my dick. This is why old billionaires marry whores btw.
>>576669225can I get an answer to this please
>>576729026Don't pay it. It's for one day but it's not worth it, because it spawns a whole bunch of necrocores that will kill your ass.
Iroha is dumbI like dumb girls
>roll a speed yeka>80 fortNYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Mercy stroke hit 3 times whit Raven Dagger in main for 1.4k each unbuffedThings are about to get dirty
>>576669225>>576729026Never pay gems to get the mausoleum bones.The crucible mausoleum bones change every two weeks and there is a weekly mission to get bones from there, so always leave at least one bone in the mausoleum before they are swapped.
Does remake only reset the enhancements or do I have to reforge all over again
>>576729839>so always leave at least one bone in the mausoleum before they are swappedwhat does that do?
>>576730331It lets you get it for the weekly mission, but you can also just do lead grade exam 3 times.
>>576730776oh guess I have to do lead exam to unlock that weekly
>>576731046These weeklies. One of them is "Do 3 non-daily or weekly missions" and it's worth 50 points, so you can do that OR get 1 set of remains to finish each week's pass.
>>576730776I throw a tallow into the mage tomb for my off-weeks. Can never have enough Asha and tag fodder.
My autism is incredibly bothered by Iroha not being able to use bows despite her skill animation involving whipping one out.
https://x.com/hamuhamuakira/status/2085751204089643518Today’s NM spawns apparently?
>>57673266210 spawn a day? I thought it was only 6.After 2nd loop, reset to last node and kill SL 11x to level up bondmates?
>>576732881The ones with red in the third column are the ones.And yeah, that’s correct for the bondmates. They fixed the harken bug so you can just wheel back and kill him.It’s dull as fuck though given how bad magic damage is.
I can finally rest
>>576734734rest well king while yuzunamiki is rimming your asshole and jerking your dick off
>>576734734Why does it say excalibur XI
>>576735335Because JD has yet to give us the canon to wizardry excalibur which will probably drop with the lord class
>>576734734Your 4* purple cesti? golden pickaxes? pre-grind another 315 attestations and fragments for the inevitable 7 new relics next week? You don't have time to rest yet.
>>576735496Mine doesnt say XI
>>576732662i feel like theres more spawn pointsi've had NMs spawn in the top right (mirrored to 0:25 position) in floor 1 so there's def a third spot there
So as a XI newfag, I'm into Guarda Fortress and my level cap is 50 now and I think Iroha has had like 3 or 4 opportunities ever to do the ultimate version of her move. Are fights really supposed to be over this quick or has Zeid just kinda fucked the balance of my game by consistently hitting 2 and 3 times harder than anyone else on my team? Like I am still being challenged for sure, but I either win quick or die quick in any individual battle.
>>576741613Random encounters are not supposed to go to round 4, no. Bosses can take a while but you're expected to blast through randos very quick.
>>576741613Standard encounters should be over in one turn if you use skills.Boss fights should last long enough that characters run out of SP before the boss is dead.If you are killing the doll or gatekeeper or ted in 3 turns, then Zeid has fucked the balance for you.
>>576741613Game has noticeable powercreepCollab units are balanced with abyss 4 skills in mind, to be better than generic skillsIn abyss 3 you were supposed to use Heavy attack 3 as your main skill until you leveled hard enough to learn FPSIroha combo skill will do more than FPS damage, and it will not take extra turn to charge upYou missed out proper intended experience and played on easy mode, anon.
Its over for other ballers
If you kill the Tonberry Kinq, does it reset the damage of the grudge skill the little shits use or am I going to take 900+ damage when they feel like it from now on?
>>576741786>>576741876>>576742469Yeah, it seems like Zeid did in fact give me a pretty different experience. I would say because of his speed and not having AoE he doesn't do the most fighting mobs through the dungeon, but like any miniboss he does probably 20% of their HP with one Abyss Strike, no dupes, no banner weapon, nothing.
>Got 20 fragments in one run from harken 3 to harken 5
>>576743667daily reset?
so I made the relic greatsword and altered the eva to surety and its +20 alreadythe SUR is a dogshit roll thoughwhile farming i hit a node and got a FAS>also my gear is overall shit so getting 20-25 EVA might not even be that bad over 8 SUR, my frontline barely has 90 EVA as isdo I just FAS it now even though its +20 and live with it? i have other 6 relics to make so I'm not gonna bother with the remaking shit
>>576744617Probably, one NM even respawned after some time at same place.
Btw, if your presence notifier blinked (including heartbeat sfx) for split second while there no one around you, it's meant some mob just respawned at previously cleaned room.
oh wow it finally happened
Oh god yes! at last, it's only 4 but this is the first time it drops! and i haven't done A3 yet! i just did the Steel exam, so it's just exam capped and not Abyss progression, i guess if i get to 70 and do the cooper one i should will be able to get 5.
>>576747815So people from lower grades don't get 5 attestations or fragments.Interesting.
Imagine a player in the 1st Abyss with a silver weapon.
>>576734734doing all that before A5 which will be here in like 2 months and make those relics useless. You autismos are something.
>>576749268If they have the autism to grind it out like that, they deserve to run through the easiest dungeon even easier. That said, you can get the weapon to silver tier and get silver armor real quick and that probably will propel a lot of noobs further than their understanding of the game should allow
>>576750004They already said "they'd like" to make this a recurring event with the next character added to be a tarutaru. Not hard confirmed but good shot. So if you don't do the composite reforge during A5 and put them away for a while, eventually you can just bust them back out and reforge them further, just like FFXI
>>576750004It took me ~6 months to get silver weapons better than my well optimized ebonsteel +20s, and composite reinforcement is has me still using some.These come very well optimized out of the box, only needing FAS to become perfectly optimized.
>>576750276Nyo, I don’t want to do any more Afterglow grinds…
>>576750004Don't worry. My dad works for Drecom and he says we're gonna get a rerun a year from now with a swimsuit Prishe alt, and the relic weapons will be made upgradable to A5 tier.2 months before they're made useless by A6.
Goblin Slayer and Dungeon Meshi collab hopefully soon...
>>576741613wait until you get yuzu. The game balance is fucked(which is expected so people pull for the new units) Thanks to these units, which in turn will have drecum having to overtune later abysses or events to "balance" those units, so new warped ones who don't have yuzu/Xi units are pretty fucked and will suffer.
>>576750276>They already said "they'd like" to make this a recurring event with the next character added to be a tarutaruAs long as Lilisette gets in I'm good with whatever.
I'm assuming that like regular skills, using a legendary character's signature move at higher levels requires more SP but is there a chart somewhere that shows the progression? Kinda want to use a book to hit harder but 10SP already feels like I have to consider if it's worth using it.
>>576750276>They already said "they'd like" to make this a recurring event with the next character added to be a tarutaruproofs?
>>576750695She'll get in as the next boss
>>576750293>~6 monthsthat should take you like 3 months at most.
>>576750969https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/260803w
>>576751203How the fuck are you getting 4 Star purples frequently enough to win the number odds to actually roll 2 good lines with how mediocre the initial Abyss junk pools are?
>there is no level 65 exp reduction in the castleThank God, i thought i bricked myself
>>576751662He's using "that"
>>576746453grats and EXPLODE
Are NM supposed to respawn every day?
>>576747815good luck getting copper exam to proc
Can we farm for megalixirs? Probably can't as they would make the GWOs way easier but wanna know if anyone has found more than one
>>576747815lower rates and drops for lower grades I see. Anon, for your sanity clear a4 at least once then start farming the event
>>576753865Megalixirs sell for 100k, there's no way they're farmable.
>>576669169fox wife love
>>576753871>just waste tons of time completing two more whole abysses>before you begin farming the limited time event
How hard is the cave of trials for Lana's quest? I don't have many leveled up good characters.
>>576753871my abyss4 progress is unlocking the first zone harken, just takes copper grade to drop fragments and 5 of them instead of 4
>>576744817Half assing EVA is the worst thing you can do, it's useless unless you go balls deep because nowadays most enemies have high accuracy. Use a FAS only if you remake it and are prepared to keep remaking it for better rolls if you get unlucky else I'd keep the shitty SUR version, these weapons are made to be FAS'd, altered and remade until you're satisfied just using a FAS is a waste.
>>576754335anon, zeid and any of the collab units are broken as hell and will easily steamroll abyss 1-3 and the first loop for a4 easily done in like a week. The same happened when yuzu first came out, anon. You would kinda have a point if there was no way to get the above I mentioned
>>576753516I’ve seen anywhere from 0 to 5 spawn automatically each day.
>>576750004Like that other anon said, good ATK rolls easily allow a weapon to surpass its higher tier counterparts. Relics can get pretty nutty with a FAS, and considering their passives it's unlikely even the new tier weapons will dethrone them. Also we may be able to composite reinforce them later
>>576755276>zeid and any of the collab units are broken as hell No they're not
>>576755276if you think these collabricks are broken youre gonna shit your pants in two months when we get the 2nd anni banner
>>576742913Just fucking spell bind them. Montino seals grudges. It can fall off though.
anywhere I can see the weapon models? they did a lot of work for these relics despite nobody using them until the last step
>>576762348voice theft can't be dispelled
I wish the scenes when you rest in the inn didn't auto play so quickly. I wanted to take a screenshot and use it as my desktop background
who will the next alt be....
>>576763972Neither can montino normally, but tonberrys are exceptions. Voice theft has a much lower hit rate though since you can't use generic adventurers to inherit it.
halloween gerulf
where do i farm a decent offhand for yuzu assuming they won't bring any more relics over>Kikoku is the ninja relic weapon in FFXI, so there's a chance, but...
>>576766283The junk in the event can drop kunai at low rates, probably the best option since you can get tons of it while you work on other shit. Outside of that you hope and pray for ninja spawns in A4.
>>576765840>but tonberrys are exceptionsWhich is why suggesting montino is stupid. If he's talking about killing the king he at least has a ninja leveled up somewhere he could use.
>>576766479Voice theft whiffs all the fucking time at level 1 regardless of how built your ninja is. Montino basically always hits at level 3. Just bring your alice and have her use it every turn on the tonberry. Bam, no more grudges. Or just use ranged weapons so it isn't triggered in the first place.
>>576766458yeah I've hit a single green 1 star shrouded kunai across 500+ junksgonna be a long one
Is the dispel on the claustrum only for actual skills and basics or does it proc on spells too?
>>576767124It doesn't work with spells.
>>576767874Figures, sasuga drecum. Oh well, at least the spell is about on part with a lv5-6 ST.
what's the tl;dr for relics i've been playing the ffxi trialwhat should i be trading for?i read something here about how it's a trap to upgrade early or else you need to rebuild them? is that referring to +5 +10 etc or did i brick if i upgraded my bow to tier 2 already? i'd like to upgrade them as i go so i have a better idea of what mats i have/need
>>576767874You can give it to Livana or someone with moonlit inherit and it could work as a ranged physical dispel, with added debuff chance
>>576755276>"collab units are broken"whats up with people that have npc tier knowledge of the game trying to brick other people
Prishe is the only broken one and only for long bossfights with huge healthbars like superbosses. Noone here is whaling hard enough to discipline her enough for that though
>>576768742Upgrading their tiers isn't an issue. It's maybe upgrading their actual levels, someone said they roll like they are silver at any tier but I wouldn't risk it.
>>576769025 shes still worse than sammasketta from what the whales posted
>>576768742Get the good endingKill 3-5 NMs daily and grind the 8 Demons x2 on floor 5 for attestations/fragmentsKill Tonberries for their Lanterns as wellTrade those with guaranteed bots every 3 hours for the ones you need to upgrade your desired weaponAlso send out your dispatches to gather materials too, give them pickaxes so they bring more stuffOptional manual mining in between grind for potential FASAlso relics have fixed stats and come at 4* red so you really want to FAS the ones you're planning on usingGet the 2h sword first
>>576768742Don't get to +15, before that is whatever.
Zeid having the damage equivalent of Poised available from level 1 is a huge push for newfags, but once everyone else catches up that's less of an advantage over regular characters.
>>576769279How the fuck is sammask even supposed to be good? (you) don't even get a busted personal skill to justify the general lacklusterness of sam.
>>576768850since you wanted to be retarded. I got to be really specific. The collab units are broken for Abysses 1-3 due to powercreep, say what you want, these units are very strong early game and alright at a4 and later. >>576769430Super whale and feed everything to mask basically(still way weaker than other units at the same investment) it's just a meme whale build, so don't take it seriously.
These demoniggas are more threatening standing around throwing rocks than they are in actual combat...
>>576769305Explain
>>576769727The rocks can be dodged, it's the fireballs that will fuck you up.
>>576769430Big mp/sp pool and you have all the actives/passives from other classes.Also Chronostasis is basically masketta's personal skill, its gamechanging in any fight that isn't immune to it.
>>576769430Well, you kinda don't need a busted unique skill when you got two of the most busted skills in the game with Quickdraw and Bamboo splitter. By virtue of his shitload of passives and being the only Samurai to get access to Shedding, Sam masketta is pretty great
>>576769295>Get the 2h sword firstGetting a strong 2h sword is pretty easy, what's not easy is getting a decent/usable fucking katana. If you plan on using sam, get that katana first.
>>576769430Masketta gets access to shedding. Masketta is the ONLY samurai in the game that has shedding.
>>576769848if only magic we use is actually threatening....when will mages shine for once(outside a4 shit)?
>>576770063so far, wait until the ninja trial and any other sam(not the ntr sam) will mog mask sam.
I have about 150 banner credits and got all 3 collab units. Any of the armor worth gambling on?
>>576769928Bamboo is just straight worse than fighter skills though. And if we are talking whale mask you can just spam inherited busted skills in any class anyway. Quick nyaa is pretty nice but it's also somewhat situational.
>>576770643when has a non-yuzu gacha equip ever been worth?
>>576769295so there are no specific mats i should be trading for because they're too rare to farm normally? just trade whatever i'm low on?
>>576769279Ive seen whales post her hit for over 100k so idk
>>576770887armor can be useful. personally most of my hats are shit
I'm probably only going to build 1 or 2 more of the relics (bow/staff) does the shield have like a hidden effect or something? +90 mdef is better than I expected desu
>>576770975You should trade for attestations and fragments once you start getting them since they're a "lossless" trade, and trades auto-complete after 3 hours.
>>576770983She absolutely is the hardest hitting character in the game once ramped. The issue is actually ramping her is sloooooow. In the 4 turns it takes to hit max power a whale likely already killed the boss and for non whales she is much less impressive(although not bad by any means, just not as stand out). The only time I'd see her as clearly the best option for a whale is a hypothetical superboss with tons of HP and break bars like the last version of the A4 gwo.
>>576771383>In the 4 turns it takes to hit max power a whale likely already killed the bossif only yoizou had this problem....
>>576771287Aegis got the short end of the stick, and doesn't seem like it does anything but shit MDEF.It was far and away the best out of the relics present in this game in XI, but is easily the most skippable one here.
>>576771287no just extra mdef, that shield should be the last thing built anyways, if you plan on being autistic with the grind.
What's the ideal team comp?
>>576771636It's still worth grabbing for the times you want to run a knigger, just be sure to change a line to defense before upgrading it. I'd actually argue the 1h sword is the worst one, just because swords are kind of useless at this point.
>>576771738You want the sovless or the soulful team comp?
My brown girl harem continues to grow
>>576771720>if you plan on being autistic with the grind.The only other 2 I'm considering are the bow / staff but I already have solid +20 silver of bothprobably just going to use the requests to get the mats for the bow>>576771738you're favorite 3 melee, 1-2 ranged or spear, 1 m/p (optional based on farm)replace a melee or ranged with thief / mage / healer based on current progression / content
>>576769664yeah units tend to be pretty good when you get ebon/silver tier weapons early
>>576771738Hypothetical whale comp, assume all personal skills and disciplines maxed and all the best inheritables>lana>benis>MC>yuzu>rinne>alice/flex
>>576770691>straight worse>when it deals 1.7-1.8xx more damage than poised at softcapthis nigga smokin some shi
Can Everyone's Grudge proc while Tonberries are stunned?They're quite susceptible to it, and it's way easier the stick than Silence.
>>576772968>needs a turn of setup where you do no fucking damage>makes you prone to getting one shot>only does a little bit more damageIt's shit.
>>576772997No, stun is death for themThe rub is that if stun doesn't go off, you die
>>576773096I just started playing Sam going from a Silver Axe to the Relic Katana and you're dead wrong, you are probably comparing non-Surety Sam hits to Surety Fighter Poiseds or something dumb
>>576773096>Can't be used for a turnwait a second... thats just poise
>>576773096Yeah, and you're doing no fucking damage on the first round while you're throwing up your attack buffs in the first place.
Aieeeee
>>576773284More like FPS(which no one fucking uses anymore for a reason), since you just alternate poise with another skill. Poise+something else > weak ass stance change attack+bamboo.
>>576773518>No one>Hundreds of cuishit users and whales blink out of existenceEos...
>>576773096>1.7-1.8x more damage>"a little more"damn some people cant do math AND know jackshit about the game
>>576773681Wow, is it a3 again? I must have wheeled back.>>576773837>over 2 turns>so actually .85-9 Yes, you.
>>576773113>>576772997I've never seen them counter from being woken from sleep either.I just spam KATINO and hit them with dark attacks.
>>576773940>cresting wave apparently does zero damage>bamboo splitter cant be used past turn 2 supposedly
>>576774063>I've never seen them counter from being woken from sleep either.They do, though. Often they don't counter on the first hit, maybe that's what you're experiencing
>>576769828Weapons are safe to upgrade to +14, some of them you'd like to alter something on the 3rd slot before upgrading to +15
>>576774165>cresting wave apparently does zero damageCorrect. It's piss weak compared to an actual skill.>past turn 2>he needs more than 2 turns
>>576774165stop typing to that guy, he probably got cucked by a samurai in real life or something
>>576774212They can, saw it yesterday. Lana surety hit it and woke it up. Guess it passed the hp threshold but it used grudge on her.
>>576774403Yes hence 'often', Ogre Lana is exceptional it's true
>>576774403Meant for>>576774063
>>576774379he just likes the attention.
prishe is just sam but better.shes significantly bulkier, doesnt need weirdo armor nobody else can use, and is easier to invest in because asuran is cheaper to codex than bamboo.
uh.. where do we farm fairy gear again? i forgot. healer cave?
masketta ranger when
>>576774903I don't know about bulkier, but I do fine it fucking hilarious how huge her STR stat is.
does this game have any kind of player coop?
how do i make the bone picker spawn consistently? is it the pier in A2?
>>576777457No, and the hearkening to the peak of online co-op within FFXI makes it especially painful
>>576778875It's on a cooldown and random.
>>576778875Yeah it's still the pier. You zone in at the harken, turn Dungeon Brightness to max, face west, strafe south, face south, strafe west, if you don't see him, press the auto-exit button and repeat until you either see him or fly to nippon to stab John Drecom for not making it easier to spawn him yetBonepicker's Adv bone and maus tallow are both on a separate exact one week cooldown. If you fuck up and talk to him when the cooldown isn't up yet you can Alt-F4 without selecting an option to get the chance to talk to him again
>gem passport only gives you gems for 20 days while most other games do it for 30 dayswtf
Am I supposed to enhance to +5 one by one then bulk extract or is there an easier way? Got a bunch of 1-3 star steel gear with unrevealed blessings but could use alteration and refinement stones
>muh hatred and darkness and curse still aren't cleared>Cait Sith dispatched when timeline shit goes awry>Shadow Lord - Odin connection> Odin - Lilith - Lilisette - Cait Sith connectionsT R U S T T H E P L A N
>>576780131It would just give you the same amount of gems for 30 days, 20 days is so you don't have to log in every single day to get it all because the cooldown for the pass is 30 days
>>576780131Because you can only stock 5 login bonuses at once, while others usually just dispatch it at each daily reset.
Do legendary characters have better stat growth than non-legendary characters? I'm asking because I want to level up Asha since she's cute but I also have Adam.
>>576780485Very slightly but it's not enough to really matter, and for nonwhales likely doesn't matter at all since general adventurers are much easier to discipline for extra stats anyway. The real selling point of legs are their skills and adam specifically is better fed to others anyway.
>>576780485dont think so, stat growth is just based off race and boon/iv im pretty sure. the generic elf mage was a pretty strong character despite being a generic adventurer
>>576780485Asha is better than Adam since she has big bountiful H P
>>576780485Yes, but good news!Asha is still better because A4 is fire-weak, she has human HP, and she isn't better off fed to another character like Adam for his Inherit
>>576780758Katino and Batilgref are both core inherits however.
>>576780667
>>576780902Way more niche than 'you don't die sometimes'
>>576780592>>576780635>>576780667>>576780758Thanks. Guess I'll level her up.I just realized I have 2 Admas. Who do you guys feed him to?
>>576781409MC > Main Mage > Frontliners > everyone else
Flut rhymes with....
>>576781904Loot?
>Benis kills a guy turn 0>Dodges an attack, kills another guy with counter attack crit>Kills another guy on ally's turn with last hit>Kills another guy on her turn >Kills another guy on the next ally's turn She is worth 3 fighters alone.
Alright for the last questionWhat should I pump into her?
>>576781904...prostitute
>>576782145INT or speed, your choice. You can cover the other with gear later.
>>576782145for mages I always go speed. some prefer IQ or a split of the two
Is it gay if I let Agora take over Alice then ask him to be my wife?
Is Rinne really that great? Should I boot someone to add her to my team? She also takes twice as long to level I heard
>>576782943Alt rinne is great. Normal rinne(class changed) is mostly just a thief that can use an AOE and better fed to the MC or a fighter.
>>576783285Yeah I have her threefold mist one
which element will be A5 mostly be?
>>576782943Great for farming. MoF is also a good inherit for any fighter since has no weapons/class restrictions, scales off ATK, targets rows, and uses enemy MDEF instead of DEF so they have a way to deal with high DEF enemies.
>>576777457It's crazy because this sort of gacha screams for the bog standard friend support system where you can use one of their characters for a run. I guess the boomer solo tradition runs too strong here, even though it gave birth to so many multiplayer RPGs.
>>576784230It's more the game doesn't really have any single battle instanced combat where borrowing a support would make much sense. Like at most I could see a souls style "summon shit for a boss battle" type system working because there is no way in hell they would let you bring one for the entire dungeon.
>>576783985Dirt.
>>576782132benis!
How is it that I can defeat the Chadowlord but not farm z5 demons without dying like a bitch?
>>576783985surely it wont be undead flavored again, maybe demons or a new race type
cute dorks
so I unlocked the old castle but can't go inside. why is that?
>>576789621it's only open at limited times when JD feels like it
>>576783985earth
fas first then remake or the other way around for relic weapon?
I'm not hopeful for shelialtthey're gonna take away her defensive skill and mp regen. There's just no way they can top her
>>576789621Old Ruins is like other gacha endgames where there's 3 sets of easy floors to clear for rewards, and then a 4th set tuned to the difficulty of the current content, with an added competitive aspect ranking how many moves it takes you to get through each floor.It was their first attempt at that sort of content and it wasn't really that fun, and I don't think they're satisfied with it either, so who knows when it'll come back
>>576790669FAS, Alter, Enhance, you don't need to remake unless you are unhappy with the Enhance gains and don't mind the gold loss and materials spent to fix it
>>576717971>incompatible with Lanaher bonus damage is irrelevant especially early on
FUUUCK I CLEANED FLOOR 4 5 TIMES AND ONLY GOT 2 SILVER COINS
>>576792560Don't clear Floor 4 5 times, clean Floor 5 4 times
>>576792560don't clear floor 5 4 times, clear the entire dungeon 9 times.
i can get silver gear from drops? i'm lv40
>>576793142the way they usually do it, probably not
>clear bronze grade quest>dismiss some losers for tags>grade up my team>go to the inn>everyone went from 30 to 40Time to rape the A2 GWO
>>576795150damn how long have you been stalling
irohanus
>>576772186Official pic? I guess a bard does fit the ff vibe quite a bit
>>576797070That's Linaria AKA Best Girland no, she is a Thief, because she steal your love.
>>576798460Nyoo... Elmon is best girl.
>>576798740>womanlet>elf>best girl
>>576798823>womanletIdeal size.>elfEars for handlebars>best girlYes!
I hate the F2 Tomberries, they don't have the Benis safety guardrail and she keeps getting grudged to death.
So is Iroha good or not?
>>576801493she is the worst of the collab units
>>576801493She is a fighter that can't use weapons outside of spears. Being spear locked is a pretty major nerf and her unique stuff doesn't really make up for it unless you are planning on using a spear anyway.
>>576800392I warned you gwos about flash
>>576801493Best animations in the game, very awkward combo. Also weird that she canonically can use a bow on top of her main blade weapon like her father but she can't use a bow in this. She would probably be very good if she could.
>>576802550She would be better, but bows are no 2hs or axe. Also it's incredibly awkward that her skill doesn't do an AOE on the first attack since that would have made her a pretty good mobber if it did.
>>576800392Give her a bow, they don't grudge ranged.
pussy & butthole
>catacombs junk 12 times in a rowEat my ass, Drecom.
Apparently you can get alteration stones from dispatches if you give pickaxes to your characters. Maybe there's chances for Fas and Lfas.
>>576802836>Flash whit Bow>you expect of her to shot an arrow>instead she goes Gorilla mode and charges, bashing the bow to the enemyThis will never stop begin funny
any tips for the bronze exam? shit is filled with strong monsters
gwos i need to make 3k gems within 12 days...................
>>576806019sorry, I mean iron
>>576806076
>>576801493Mediocre. She has the highest base SP pool in the game which is something people forget.
jesus h. christ
>>576806857You did it, you pulled the giga nigga
>>576806019>>576806108nvm I got this. The plant was kinda easy, but really hit hard. So needed just to keep my guard up always
>>576806857Hey, that's good fodder right there. Feed him to any bow user for a nice little AOE attack.
in the castle, are there one mini boss per floor? I swear I saw one on the first floor, but I cant find it anymore
Iroha
>>576806857This guy's portrait in the inherit screen and whatever always looks like Brendan Fraser but brown. Brownden Fraser.
Doubt anyone knows the answer, but what are the requirements for getting better drops in the event.Finished my copper exam but castle still drops 4x attestations and I assume no fragments. The Gil exchange updated and lets me buy silver dropping junk , but I haven't had it drop naturally during my full floor sweep. I assume castle scales in real time, so it's not like I have to wheel to make it notice I'm on different tier right?
>>576801493She's good if either you're just starting out or you have her totally built at 70 including her banner weapon. In between those two points she is super "okay."
>59 bones into the collab banner using the cheap bundles and all I got was a 90 fort Zeid and his fuckass mask at 2* white>thinking of just grabbing a free Prishe from selector and calling it but dreading that it could be a sub 100 fort as wellMan...
>>576811618It counts your abyss endings too. Have you gotten the mastermind ending on abyss 3 and at least attempted 0 corruption gatekeeper?
>>576811618Maybe it's related to your top team power?>>576811915It's quite possible, I've got 80 fort Iroha from selector after getting 90 fort from gacha. Now I considering using spark to get her again.
>>576811915Don't worry bruh I'm in the exact same situation as you (except Zeid 2* blue armor) and got a 90 Fort Dex 6 BP Prishe bro just brick yourself like me.
I've got a spare Yrsa, should I feed her to Prishe? I see a few japs saying it's a good inherit on her, anyone try it out?>>576811915Just luckshit the WORLD OF STR lolibaba bro.
>>57681191596 pulls and i got a debra. Tomorrow i'll be at 100 and i can get iroha + prishe.
>>576770691Nah, Bamboo splitter hits harder than any fighter skill in the game it's hands down the best dps skill in the game if you don't count stuff like Hue paired with Yuzu's hairpin. As for Quickdraw I'd argue it's quite useful in most situations, guaranteed physical evade can't be understated and it hits harder than any fighter skill too. It's far from a niche skill imo, though I'll admit both of these are shit for farming and regular encounters. Fighters are definitely more versatile on that end but against bosses and elites Samurai still stands uncontested, which is fine if you ask me
>>576814404Prishe is the uncontested best boss killer now, it's really not even close.
>>576812312No, I speedran A3 for the 2000k clears event(no need to thank me) and then the XI event dropped so my time was spent on that. A4 was pretty brutal(getting one shot by random crits pre 70) so I haven't done that either, but if mastermind ending could push me into better tier I guess it would be easiest(fastest as well?) thing to try.
>>576814548Well I haven't fully upgraded mine yet so I can't say anything about that but she seems to dish out good damage, I could see her claim the top dps spot against single-target. Sam still got pretty high damage and some added survivability with Quickdraw though
>>576815195Yeah, I'm mostly just talking about damage. Assuming she is properly built she has the highest ceiling in the game. Obviously she has zero utility outside of that and frankly kind sucks for mobbing without expensive leg inherits.
>>576811618you might have to wait for daily resetI've noticed the junk appeared for me too the moment I cleared copper grade but the castle was still dropping Ebonsome time later I was not getting ebon junk anymore and I could drop 5 frags/attestationsI did push into the first abyss4 zone though and it seems to have helped drop rates where first the gold chest seemed to be 25%
>>576814548All the whale footage is massive buffs + 3 turns of ramp. Prishe loses stacks after every inh skill so she actually has worse sustained dps, despite needing a shit ton of turns/buffs to get online. this isn't even bringing in the sp problem since she need to use asuran at level 5 to do big damage and that cost a solid 1/3 or her sp pool.
should I play XI
>>576816245no
>>576816110>Prishe loses stacks after every inh skillShe loses 2 skillchain but gains 1 back which lets her use the 8-hit asuran every two actions once ramped, similar to a fighter getting PAOS every two actions.SP definitely is an issue if her best non-asuran skill is astral break. I wonder if 3 hits lets her proc first arrow more often as a cheaper damage/debuff move.
>>576816110She loses 1 stack, so you just alternative once she is ramped no different from how a fighter works.
>>576816110i mean with hp gate stuff like godefroi surely you'll use lower-level asuran fist. or is the damage difference between lv.1/3/5 that big?
>>576816630I've seen some japs talking about first arrow(high hit count+wants to go fast/slow the enemy seems like a match made in heaven) but I've not seen an example of it being used so I dunno how good it actually is on her.
>she is basically a fighter>just needs 4 actions to ramp up
>>576816951More like she starts at baseline fighter level and ramps up to way beyond that.
>>576817237Eh.. Most fighters are using 2H sword to get a big delta between your attack value and their defense value. 3hit means roughly 1/3 attack value so in any situation where your attack is only "on par" with content she can fall behind pretty easy without skillchain up
>>576817237show me your unbuffed prishe hitting for 6k with a single skill that is not asura
>>576817567The fists are still internally 2h weapons, they just lack the +STR bonus. You still get the hidden damage mod.
>>576816837I'd like to know too, might dump a few scrolls in it if the upgrade is significant
I never got to hear the low trust voice lines for a lot of the characters, Benis is even more autistic then I thought
>Backgroundnigger hits Shiou with a fireball for 900 damageWhat.
Retarded question but why is Copper Grade considered stronger than Bronze Grade? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
>>576822031Copper can occasionally be found pure in nature but the great majority of it, especially for societies low enough on the tech tree to be using swords and shit is naturally mixed with tin, AKA bronze. Bronze does make a better sword but copper is rarer/requires more work to obtain so it is worth more.
>>576821715Katanyas are wind element which makes her weak to fire.
>finally get around to doing the FF11 collab>get to the shadow lord>forced party wipeSome things never change I see.
>>576823191Technically it's ""only"" a forced death. You can just taunt him as MC and have him kill you before anyone in the party and then you're good and don't need to revive anyone.
>>576822989It normally hits for ~200 damage without any damage reduction procs.
>>576823475>oh chicken leg of the abyss, what is your wisdom
>>576823815The damage from those attacks is fucking weird and I'm convinced there is probably your standard drecum bugs with them.>sometimes they do zero damage, not a miss, just straight up 0>sometimes they do fuckhuge damage and one shot a character from full>most of the time it's just annoying chip damage
SUR or Attack/Mag for Amano's third line?
>>576824252sur
>advertising your game in the back of a taxi
>>576825372Well it is a MOBILE game
It's no FAS but still some good shit
>>576825372Look at his fancy millionaire, getting a taxi in Japan. Seriously any trip I take in a taxi is like 30x the price of taking the train and maybe like 110% as fast or whatever.
>>576825372>see Prishe's face when riding a cab home after a long day of work
>>576825372LOOK OUT GWO SHE IS GONNA EAT YOU
>>5768177216k seems like a high benchmarkmy fighters not hitting that unbuffed yet
>>576825372Ayy lmao
>>576812312>>576812614>>576812471Thanks for the encouragement gwos. It was a 6BP Luck IV, 100 Fort. Much better than I feared.
while I am not personally one, I would like to take a moment to congratulate the Yrsa havers on the class change, looks cutewhat will Erwin get? Samurai
>>576827941your lana? your way of the thief?
>>576829035nigger he's using an evil thief/fighter
Idk if I like alt Rinne should I just inherit her?
>>576829514I liked her but inherited her anyway because her skill is just too good for farming and I don't use my Rinne anyway.
>>576829151skill issue
>>576795569spent a couple days in the event
>no one talks about irohabrickgwos...
>>576830767What do you want to talk about?That she's ainigi 2.0 with div brick scaling?That she doesnt have aspd ramp despite desperately needing it?That her line skills are bricked behind a single target attack?that her main payoff for the whole skill is basically a wet noodle?Or maybe her dogshit heal thats more expensive than madios 2 for no fucking reason.
>>576830767I like her more than Prishe and Zeid. Maybe she'll get buffed next patch?
>>576831160She doesn't strictly need a buff. It's just that because of her skill she needs a set of armor that you would only have on hand for playing a frontline 1H mace battle priest which exactly 0 people do. So you then need to grind out a set of shit with both Attack and Divine which nobody really wants to do since there's no twitter posts of her hitting for one morbillion damage.
>>576828501Erwin better get healer if solely so that "the lifestealer" can get life drain. Also Camille is an elf so they can reuse her dress.
I got more ornate fragments than ill ever need for trading, wondering if I should farm chests or rocks now, also wondering what the best floor for macroing it might be cause im burned out on manual farming
>>576830767There isn't really anything to say.>learns fighter skills>but can't use anything other than spears>nice animations>damage is ok, but nothing amazingShe is fine. Just fine. Not crazy, not a brick.
Does the golden pickaxe from the jeweler give better drops from the ore?
>>576830767She gets Demon/Kindred-Demon Slayer but still...
>>576832604no, it just triples the drop
>>576833276>triples the dropsIt's something, maybe at the end of the event I'll go crazy after everything else is unlocked.
>>576830767nobody talks about iroha because shes shit. she needs two 1/1000 inherits to get skills chloe has for free, and even then chloe is much easier to get duplicates of and her alt has a sur discipline.
what do the Nips think of Iroha?
Got an extra alt Rinne, curious if it worth teaching someone threehold mist , a few of my fighters already have MOF. Already gave it to Prishe, wondering if I should give it to someone else, discipline or inherit to Rinne to lvl 2
>try steel exam>get to boss>minotaur who takes fucking infinite double turns with aoe stuns on both rows and formation swaps every time you breathe>>uhhh how the fuck do I do this, look it up>>try using your debuffs>uhh okay, i'll revive>>>literally chainstuns my mage the entire fight after the first roundWhat the fuck?
How does MC mage spell work? Like I know he is untyped so he would learn Cones, but if he type switches to Light type does cones get replaced with Foros or does he get both? If he swaps types later does the typed spell go away?
>>576836084Only the cones line, which costs more MP than all other types, making him a really bad mage.If you want other elements, you have to inherit them.
>>576836084It's Cones forever, basically as MC mage you just want to dip after getting whatever utility and passivesOffensive mages in general are pretty limited beyond blasting trash and A4 True End, and MC can contribute a great deal to either single target damage or utility so he has his work cut out for him
>>576836020Gimmick boss fight.If you kill one of the two, the other rages and does something stupid. The succubus does a teamwide charm attack while the minotaur gets super buffed.The best way to do it is to spread your damage instead of focusing on one.The succubus has lower HP than the minotaur though, so evenly spreading your damage will still cause the minotaur to rage with a decent amount of health.
>>576836950I was wondering why I had no idea that the Steel Mino did any of that
First it was endless grinding. Then ninja caves. Then the rise of tapGODS.Now, were logging in every 2 hours to collect resources for limited time events. What will the next update look like bros?
>>576835920Save the inherit for dual wield ninja MC or any character that can't use MoF well. Use skill books if you want to level it up on Rinne.
>>576833663Nah this is a shitty take. She has two damage boosting passives and one goes hand and hand with the paos/ess spam all fighters end up doing anyways. Plus putting wotw on her just makes her better.
>>576837220waiting for mining vein respawns every 5 minutesbut it's a bug and it's fixed within 48 hours so you have to abuse early
>finally set up an auto team that can deal with the 8-pack demons reliably>start encountering tonberries every 5 minutes
dungeon meshi collab with cooking system when?
So why do the japs rate zeid so high? First impressions here were just that he is slow as shit, are any of his skills that crazy? He kinda looked like another gillion to me and gillion is incredibly annoying to use
>>576838268>are any of his skills that crazyAbyssal strike is ESS, but with POAS damage and cheaper to level with skillbooks. And that is before adding any of his buff skills.
The S hole.
>>576838268>Life drain on command>Massive damage buff on command>Damage buff brings him into the correct hp range to activate low hp passives>Can convert mana to sp on command
My cute brown meathead wife and our cute brown meathead daughter
>>576838971mother and daughter dish
>>576838268For context they rated him S but not S++ or some shit like that, specifically because slow as shit and all self buffers are a little bad because of turn economy but>Souleater>Buff to damage, not just attack>Now have skills like Will to Fight and Back against the water on for free too>Do big damage with a solid chance to stun>Or if you suspect the fight will go a few rounds hit blood weapon to give him big self heals
>>576838971>ruining your pure elven blood with a round ear.
>>576839758That mirror-mere pussy grip be hittin different
I have learned to appreciate Zeid being slow just because if he moves before the boss and does Souleater or Last Resort, then gets hit by the boss, that sucks for me. If the boss goes first I know that I can or can't afford to make myself more vulnerable
Today's NM list.Red in column 3 can respawn, but all of these should have a chance to spawn for the daily spawn.
>>576837371Nah bimbo cat rapes the collabrick.Getting 4% more damage for alternating skills and against demons can't compete with free WotK, free WotW, an easy D9, and an easy time getting high bonus points and a preferred boon. The easy D9 alone gives Chloe 12 more surety and a bunch of other stats Iroha will never have.And since Iroha is lance-locked, instead of having 12 less surety than Chloe, it's more like 37 less surety because she can't use Ragnarok.
>>576831160>Maybe she'll get buffed next patch?uh, have fun with that cope
>>576840971>Ragabrick over a 2H axeYeah, you're a certified retard who's desperately trying to pretend he isn't one
>>576840324Once realized they don't respawn everyday, and you can even get zero respawns, I stopped trying.
>>576839758Liv takes what she wants; anon had no choice.
>>576838971Ruining your bloodline for Livanussy...
>>576841349I just use it to break up 8 demon spam, and get additional attestation and fragments since I intend to complete all of them unless they drop more on Thursday.
>>576838971>still no BTDE
>>576841346Post your 2H axe fighter with 1000+ attack and 145+ surety right now or accept death.
>>576836084It'd be nice, but no, his skills don't change. CONES is also kinda shit. But it doesn't really matter because the only spell that does any kind of respectable damage is Malefic Wind. Dalto has the same scaling as Cones, so once you learn that you'll never cast Cones again unless you scored some Cones books somewhere.
Kinda feel like the staff isnt worth a FAS
>>576842978Unless mages somehow got buffed to compete with Fighters as DPS, no.And odds are if that ever were to happen, it would be by the time we are already in the next tier of weapons with established farming routes.
Gj bros. Figure out how to make zeid good with optimal skill rotation while Asura fist lv 5 gg
>>576838502>cheaper to level with skillbookshow so? Arent all skills the same in that regardAlso how is the sp cost
>free STR boon Prishe from free supply bonesNeat.
Turned out pretty good for no FAS
>>576845250Legendary skills cost way less skill xp to level. Same with disciplines.Legendary skills take 1,200 exp to get to 6/6 inherited levels, General skills take 3,200 exp. Getting a level 7 abyssal strike is definitely possible. Getting level 7 ESS is really not.
>>576846679>AliceGross.
jesus A2 is long as hell
I'm assuming you can't alter the blessings of a weapon to just be 4 lines of % attack, right? Or is it simply the math that going all in on one stat isn't the play?
>>576848015Equipment can't roll lines they already have, and you can only alter one line to a specific thing.So the best you can do is something AtkWhatever > AtkAtk%Acc/Surety
>>576848272Wait so if I use an alteration stone on something I just can never use an alteration stone on that item again? I haven't really been investing more than the minimum in my equipment since I know I'm going to outgrow it so soon, but now that I'm getting Ebon drops I was starting to think about it and I'm just trying to figure out the catches of smithing shit.
>>576847876Just you wait til you get to A3.
>>576848648You can alter the same line again if you change your mind, or use a (lesser) full alteration stone to scramble every slot and that lets you pick a new line to alter
>>576848648You can only alter one line, but you can alter that line however many times you want to reroll alteration values or change stat.Using a FAS or LFAS resets that limit.Ideally you alter a line before it gets it's enhancement bonus at +5/10/15/20, so the altered stat gets the boost.If a blue/purple piece has 2-3 good lines already and you uncover the next line and it has a dud stat, that's a good place to add SUR or ASPD since they typically have pretty low enhancement bonus roll ranges.
it's so over...
boy do I love scripted deaths where RNG fucks me over and the boss decides to rape everyone first than me, leaving me with a big ass ress bill
>>576850428time to remake lil' gwo
>>576851925>scripted RNG
>>576852238>virgin beastfolk
>smart catposter
>satiated warped one
>>576851925Ninja will learn Death Before Dishonor at level 80 where you blow yourself up.Trust the plan.
>>576853470brown skin behaviour
I've rolled like 8 red bricks from Boners 2 but since there's no big titty priest with her tits hanging out that doesn't look like shit (Sorry H. Asha...) I have no reason to inherit it to anyone.
Do you go all BP full into speed on zeid no matter what and pray for speed boon or do you just accept that he will always go last and all in str?
>>576854618Im actually leveling up a Red Beard just for Morgus, whit all these Dark resist gear droppin, might give it a try
>>576854942His Speed > ASPD conversion rate looks to be pure shit, so I'd just go STR and stack a bit more ASP on his Boots, Ring, and maybe Body piece.
Beat the first dungeon. What now? Who I should take from the collab selector as a ftp only?
>>576854618Consider stoner aunt camille
>>576855226Is margus still hard after the level 70 cap increase and the 2h buff? I never tried
>>576854942>he will always go last and all in strYup.
>>576855885The most meta-est choice to take from the selector is dark elf man, but mostly to inherit his skill onto someone else and we all know you will let him sit in your inventory because you're scared to use a Legendary inherit on any character because you're scared to replace them on your team effectively wasting your inherit. Just pick who you think looks coolest.
>>576854618give one to alice, one to yeka, one to linaria, one to camille and save one for legendary bikini Asha
>>576855931never actually tried, as i said, the aurora stuff gave me the idea to load it up and try itAlso Red Beard speaks funny, pure schizo energy
>>576856267>one to alice, one to yekaWhy would I inherit anything onto food for non-ugly adventurers?
>>576856230Ive been using dark elf man as my main party thief with no discipline for all 4 abysses, I cant handle not having a thief for chests and he is the only one who has a hard hitting move besides ThiefMC which I dont wanna run
>>576855931I believe he's pretty trivial so long as you can deal with his party wipe.
Are any of the superbosses worth doing in the first place, do any of them give anything special? Equipment usually is pointless since you are not gonna farm unification mats for them
>>576856676Morgus give you a ring, white-cum demon of the medical ground give you a Healer only shield, the red dragon gives a HP boundmate.
>>576856676Swordnigger's odachi is the best and doesn't have a crippling downside like the Snow-Oni Yoto, but unless we get more group bosses that are threatening, when you're at the point you can do it consistently, you're probably at the point you can pretty easily automash farm through anything except FOEs.
>>576856524That's fine, I hope you're having fun. I'm just saying that is not the meta things to do or the advice you'll find on some website. Most of those will tell you to bring Debra as your thief, but I personally am using ThiefMC.
>>576856230I like Abenis (her King's Field sword looks cool) but I don't know if it's okay to skip limited collabs
>>576856676the a3 necrocore superboss gives an atk bondmate
Are any of the characters like really evil? So far it seems like evil alignment just means they're an asshole and not really "evil"
>>576857392Just Alice.
>>576857125It's okay. Broadly, the game is very balanced and powercreep is slow with many people still running legendary characters that were on the very first banner of this game almost two years ago. Exceptions apply to that, but these collab characters are not those exceptions. They are all entirely good enough. If you don't give a shit based on vibes, then just skip.
>>576857392Raffaelo literally tortured his wife to death, some characters are in fact evil, but generally the evil/good distinction in this game is more about how you weigh others' needs versus your own wants. It's not strictly a malice thing. Like Savia just cares about shit being fun and novel and that makes her "evil" but the worst thing she ever did was not live up to her family's expectation of her until she died.
>>576857880>Just noticed Red Beard is neutralHow a rambling schizo not Evil?
how does the offhand of a ninja work
>>576643635Cheapest way to get 400 gems of org? (purple gems for a handbook i see in shop)
>>576859293Offhand normal hits get a penalty to attack, skills are calculated with the main hand attack and a percentage of the offhand attack.
>medicine is called Knightquilheh
>>576860825I read the attack values in the bonus stats don't apply but other stuff does?
>>576861680>>576861680>>576861680
>>576860554Outright but them for $8 or get the two monthly passports for $20 which come with a lot of org.>>576855931He can still burn a lot of flames with bad luck on his instakill moves. It is fine as long as only one party member stays dead after each brain death nightmare.
>>576858482Because a priest's alignment is determined by the god they follow. Red Beard follows no gods, so he's neutral. class changes aren't canon
