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Rat edition

>Steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/

>TEAM TRAILERS :
>Unbreakable X-Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo
>Amazing Guardians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY
>Fighting Avengers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA
>Knights of Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc
>Samurai Outriders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE


>Phoenix Cyclops reveal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU

>Opening intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQY


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>>576865394
>>576865875
that's nothing
>>576564232
>>576564274
>>576564548
>>576564769
>>576764465
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>>576884767
cute
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>>576884767
Deadpool players, is he any good or are the 20 meme special moves pretty much useless??
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>>576885146
I haven't run into him or played him yet but watching TNS his polygon man attack looks really good.
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ms marvel is the only honest character in the game
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tranny character
tranny team
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>>576885230
cap and wolverine are honest too
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>>576885230
THE USB PORT!!
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>magik's 5m is 9 frames
this character is really dumb. i will never see you as a good player if you use her
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The Champion's theme is the best track in the game
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https://x.com/FavScrub/status/2085887539286774212 dude...
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>marvel tokon uses the same anti-tamper/drm that concord did
holy shit KILL SONY
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>>576885591
>i will never see you as a good player if you use her
who are you for anyone to give a shit anon? no one. gonna mash my way to the top and you can't stop me
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>>576885714
Iron Man doesn't feel very strong to me but he has really fun combos
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>>576885718
god forbid we get magik piping black panther with her massive cock
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>>576885146
he's a solid all-arounder
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Predict the week 1 meta team.
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>>576886129
uninstall wizard x 4
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is this the biggest lolcow in the fgc?
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>>576886129
spidey/doom/shuri/magik
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>>576886129
magik + ghost rider + black panther + flex slot
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>>576886190
He's the biggest one but LTG is the funniest one.
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>>576886190
I think he exists on a level above just the FGC as his notoriety goes. I'm sure plenty of people know about DSP without knowing about his SF2 claim to fame. The biggest FGC one that has their identity tied to the FGC specifically is LTG.
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>>576885251
you can hate how the crimson chin looks and talks but that fella could have been a future timmy tuber like diaphone
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PC needs an option to only match with PS5
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>>576886397
buy it on epic gamestore it runs perfectly, it's a steam issue. steam is gay
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Can you only link 4 normals together on the ground?
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>>576886329
I was in group chat where my friends were talking about DSP for a fucking hour, and were surprised when I mentioned he played fighting games.
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>>576886507
>buy it on epic gamestore it runs perfectly
no it doesn't it's still as bad
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>>576886534
Yes. I have no idea why.
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>>576886507
I run it fine. I don't want to play against people who aren't running it perfectly.
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>>576886507
stop spreading this misinfo retard
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>>576886190
I never got the vitriolic levels of hate for this dude, he gets more hate than actual criminals/scumbags that still do youtube. It's just some old fart playing video games.
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Carnage's chip damage needs a massive fucking buff
They literally advertise this character with his chip damage at the forefront but you can go five fucking seconds on offense to deal less than 5% chip damage when he already has his buff
I don't want him to be on the flaming homo nigger from BB's level when it comes to chip damage but this is just absurd
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>>576886768
>I never got the vitriolic levels of hate for this dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx44NdgqpxY
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>>576886727
it's true, I saw it on X. I trust everything I see from random accounts on X.
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>>576886972
>the title
that's what every normie that gets into fighting games does though?
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>>576886832
It makes very little sense considering that's his primary gimmick. He's not a bad character but doesn't excel in much so you would think his chip would be strong. It's basically worthless though. I suspect he will become one of the least played characters very quickly as people catch on to what is strong in this game. He has almost no mix.
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Why does Carnage's 22 specials only sometimes say Overhead on the screen? I thought it was always an overhead, what am I missing?
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>storm's aerial tornado dash attack doesn't end until you hit the ground
>you can just juggle someone by constantly blowing yourself upwards in the corner
theres gotta be some silly looking loop you can do with this
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>>576884767
Shhhh, Danger Room is in sleep mode.
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>>576885230
need a flustered, slightly confused Danger
think xrd Faust super
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>>576886190
>>576886329
I don't know anything about this guy besides that every time some dumbass goes up in flames (think Lacari) I see a post "DSP outlives another one"
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>>576888008
very cute danger
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>>576888362
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>>576884767
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE MY IDOL
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I feel like my game runs fine. The fps stays in 59.9-60 with 16.6ms of frametime, but I just can't get rid of these consistent micro stutters no matter what I do. Almost everyone I play rematch me so I want to believe I'm not causing lag to anyone.
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I thought I couldn't find a fighting game with a worse defense system than Sf6 but I think Tokon may take first spot
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>>576889074
everytime you're micro stuttering you're causing a rollback spike for your opponent
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>>576886190
Holy shit phil lost a lot of weight, good for him.
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>>576889220
learn to block pal
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>>576886832
I want him to have amane level chip tho
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>>576886190
DSP Won
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Realistically speaking, Magik's sword should be bigger and her normals slightly faster
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>>576886832
Carnage is never ever going to have good chip damage for as long as Tokan has non-existent levels of defensive mechanics.
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Realistically speaking, Magik's cock should be bigger and her thrusts slightly faster
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Magik should have a penis
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>>576884767
god DAMN that Cloud was smoked just now
that Storm had some juice
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I want to play magik too like I did in the beta but Im a special snowflake what do I do I own a horsecock dildo btw and would get raped by her
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women don't have penises
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>storm literally shakes the screen and pulls you in from fullscreen and 50/50s you and her ice projecitle is invulnerable

haha fair character :)
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>>576890621
Trannies really latched onto magik because of rivals. She's an ugly man faced bitch in that and they think she looks like them so they're going to say she does
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https://www.twitch.tv/punkdagod
If Punk wins this set he plays SQ for top 8
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>>576891385
punk sucks, so who cares
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>>576891178
Thankfully I don't interact with trannies and I don't seek out their opinions so I remain blissfully unaware of what they think
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>>576891178
I can't wait for some OF trannies to cosplay magik for me to jerk it to
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SISTERS THEY'RE MISGENDERING OUR GIRL IN PUNK'S CHAT
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I can't deal with zoning with Ms. Marvel
how do I even close the gap when there is a Magneto, Doom and Ironman throwing shit at me every 0.32 seconds
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sq just stuck her tiny tranny cock into punk's anus and double perfected him
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clanker sex
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who pairs well with doom
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>>576892931
Hulk apparently. You use Doom to open up your opponent then tag Hulk into do the actual damage.
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what's up with this game dog
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>caster calls SQ he three times in a row
>other guy immediately says she several times after to correct
kek
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>>576893303
Is this the person who played Persona 4 and decided to become Chie or something?
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Are inputs purposely shit because they want you to use the quick skills?
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>>576893396
exactly that
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>>576893554
First time I heard of this person was when I played strive, but there were so many trans players it is hard to keep them straight.
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>>576893396
she literally IS chie
someone post a comparison pic so we can all see they are like twins
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yeah i'm using quick skills for 22 inputs and I don't care
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>>576893750
When yes I'm using quick skills for everything
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do character specific resources regen while they're tagged out?
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they should probably increase the CD on assists lol
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>>576894359
Yea. It's going to be a huge problem for high level play. One round into every match neutral just stops existing and it's all about assists. The first round of every match will be the only interesting one with any attempt at neutral.
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>>576895087
I can already see all the mahvel players crying on twitter saying arcsys made the game boring if they ever nerf the assists
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>>576894359
at one point in the SQ vs punk match after a neutral reset from wall break i saw SQ just call every single assist all at once once they had control again
the game just becomes brainless assist spam once you unlock the whole team
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this game is going to have two tiers of characters
the ones that get a 50/50 off any blocked normal and the ones that don't lol
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>>576895324
this is why the winners final we just saw was a black panther/magik/spider-man mirror lol
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>>576895284
The last SQ match vs that wolverine player both players were just spamming assists as soon as they would come up. There were multiple points when all 8 characters were on the screen.
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>>576895245
All the mahvel players are already crying that the game is too slow.
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Does doom have his anti-judge stomp move or no
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>>576896047
he only does a stomp when he does his tokon assemble attack in this game, which is basically just a startup to a cinematic super
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>>576896047
Deadpool has the foot dive if that is what you want
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>>576895284
>>576895607
Remember when people were convincing tag haters to buy the game because you can just play 1v1 if you like? Or tag lovers dooming that it was just a 1v1 game with assists?
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>>576896348
I'm mostly seeing people play it like a 1v1 with assists. Granted it is week 1
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>>576895324
Yup. Makes their decisions to limit the game in the ways they did (4 gatling as an easy example) much more confusing because it's going to devolve into the most degen shit ever.

Meta of this game will be fullscreen assist spam into fullscreen EX special hit confirm into 50% damage into wall slump into guess for death (3-4 times in a row with no way out)
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>>576886534
Wasn't this how they designed FighterZ
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>>576889912
Wow, bro, its like he's trying to figure out how to fix it so he doesn't do that.
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>>576896912
no
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>>576884767
crack doko?
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i'm going to bed now i better see a patch in the morning
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>>576897659
Found the game files multiple times but still not launchable because of all the bullshit packed into it
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>>576884767
CUTE OP IMAGE!
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>>576895284
>the game just becomes brainless assist spam once you unlock the whole team
in a way this game is the anti DBFZ
in dbfz roundstart is schizo spam, then if both players lose 2 characters it becomes a tame 1v1 fighter
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>>576897724
lol
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twitch.tv/tampaneversleeps
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So 2H is the new 6P got it
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>not even a week in
>already nearly mirroring teams in grand finals
GRIM
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>>576898512
balance is the least of this game's issues, and also the easiest to fix
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it would've been really good if it was 3x3 instead of 4x4
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>>576898667
But the Fantastic 4! Despite them being a never ever add to the game
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>>576898512
well duh. the game only has 21 characters and 3 of them are wasted space. i could've told you Tōkon would be mirror city.
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So who’s gonna be the naked lili of this general?
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>>576899362
naked lili?
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>>576899354
>posts a character literally not a single soul in the universe wants
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>>576898839
they gotta do the Fantastic 4 like one of those toys that comes with one toy and then one piece of a deluxe toy. like say all the Avengers individually come with a piece of Thanos, so you have to collect them all to assemble him? same idea. just put one member of the Fantastic 4 in each season for 4 seasons.

>>576899467
>ad hominem
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>>576899521
She Hulk with that Magiks hairstyle is so cute
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>>576898075
so what, are there like counter-pick stages? they were mostly playing on the stages with no breakable walls and now they are on knowhere
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>>576900172
it's random select
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>No Carnage in top 8
Aw man...
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>>576900231
that was a pretty unlucky break for bleed then since storm does way more damage on stages where you cannot wallbreak
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>>576900395
>storm does way more damage on stages where you cannot wallbreak
That's...
Everyone anon
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>>576900378
he has no mix
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>>576900496
yeah but it varies heavily, some characters can get big damage as long as they route their combos correctly, even on wallbreak stages. storm does like half without a wall while BP can easily extend combos without her wallbreak moves.
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Awful spectator game. That ex overhead shit is so boring.
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>>576899412
Why would naked lili be the naked lili of tokon?
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>>576900818
anon I don't know who the fuck is naked lili
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>>576900642
>nigger post
disregarded
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>>576900910
Ahh. Naked Lili is the mascot of tekgen, the general of tekken.
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>>576900642
This is why jL not being an overhead is a problem.

With jL not being an overhead + airdash speed being so slow, characters have to rely on their baked in, obvious mixups. You can't do interesting blockstun pressure or staggers because of the gay 4 gatling limit. Active tag mixups are not gonna be as strong as people think.

Look at the blockstrings everyone is doing right now. 2L2L2M5H special assist rinse and repeat. There's nothing else you can really do on most of the cast. And there's nothing the person blocking can do either. It's DBFZ's "waaah 30 minute blockstrings" problem but actually real this time
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>>576900803
Is it better or worse than drive rush?
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>>576902592
Imagine if instead of Drive Rush in SF6 you could summon 3 Ryus that will each do a hadouken, a shoryuken and a tatsu while you're free to move on the screen and is able to do an OD overhead special that can be comboed into it
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>>576903748
switch summoning Ryu to summoning 3 Kage's while playing as Ryu and that actually sounds sick as fuck.
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I hate how sexy they made Magik. I’m trying to grind but every time she shows up I start to lose focus and can’t stop thinking about blocking her abs and fucking her raw mid match
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>>576903748
yeah, sounds like a tag game, are you new?
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Don't play tag fighters much but the jump cancels/air combos always get me. Any tips besides practicing in training mode for a new-ish tag fighter? Having fun with this game and looking forward to iron man + cpt america
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>>576905413
it would help if you went more into what the actual problem is but most of the time you can usually do up + the button you're trying to cancel into as one smooth motion to make a jump cancel easy instead of having to manually jump and then hit it

also hitting heavy twice in a row magnetizies you towards the target to land the jumping down heavy spike towards the ground thing, which is really nice for turning cursed confirms into smooth knockdowns you can pick up with assist for ez combo on air hits
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>>576906803
I think it comes down to canceling fast enough. For example for Danger's last trial, you do QCB+M to spiral down and you'll swap sides right at the end of it, which you cancel into her ultimate.

As for you mentioning hitting heavy twice in the air, I noticed that helped last night when doing Black Panther's last trial.
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>>576886190
I think Phil is in the state where he now just kinda plays it up for the audience because he knows that's what people are here for
LTG is a worse lolcow desu who has lost complete control of his life
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>>576886832
you aren't meant to rely on chip damage like you do with Amane in BB. In BB you have barrier block and ways to deal with chip.
Carnage's chip damage is more like extra seasoning, you are going to be detonating his debuff more for damage than you are keeping it up for the chip
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How do I play BP
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>>576907918
First you have to cross your arms and shout WAKANDA FOREVER at the beginning of every match
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Dicko will finish off this piece of shit
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Is Penny high tier? I will buy the game for she if shes good
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>>576908441
I gotta be honest I have not seen a single person picking Peni in this game
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>>576908441
As a Peni player, I can't help but feel if I switched to a different character I'd be way stronger currently.

I don't feel so weak that I can't fight, but I feel like the options some other characters get seems way stronger, and I don't get very much to make up for it. I could be bad though.
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How long until EOS?
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>>576908441
she's a scrub stomper but not very good i'd say
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Too much shit on the screen
0 recovery time
Weird ass waking up timings
Offense too retarded
Too many assists
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>>576898512
>bleed
That nigger is super laggy how isnt he banned from comp lmao. Im east coast and despite having 50MS against him it fucking rollbacks like crazy against him. I saw him later on Diaphones stream and he was a laggy bitch too. Im on PS5 Pro so it aint my PC or some shit like that.
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>>576910710
They just had a second wind when every competitive player on PC decided to knee-jerk and buy the PS5 version as well, possibly even a console to go with it. They are making bank.
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>>576900496
Some characters have insane diff in that anon. Iron Man for example gets insane extenders and can delay shit so much when theres no wallbreak. Hes playable character on these stages while he sucks balls on other stages.
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I really like Carnage a lot. Shame has has no fucking mix, but I'll play him until I can't
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>>576911748
yesterday I found a carnage dealing some insane damaging combos and it was just him spamming as many heavy attacks as he can rather than any skill usage...
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>>576911748
I did his combo trials yesterday and had to listen to his theme while doing them.
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>>576911748
Whats with the glitchy lines coming out of his back?
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>>576911748
he has long range presence, close range + frames and ambigious staggers on demand with parasite bomb and his dive kick, and an armored overhead. he's fine
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>>576912820
We found the 8 rbf enjoyer...
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>>576912832
>close range + frames
wut? all his moves are punishable on block without spacing or infection except the dumb jump that whiffs half the time
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>>576912820
It's a texture bug, common in UE5 games. I couldn't be bothered reloading to fix it.

>>576912832
His neutral is great he just can't do any "real" mix to you once he's in. Idk what you're talking about with + frames he's - on everything but 236 even with parasite bomb. The overhead is 24f and can be mashed out of because the armor is quite shitty. With the right assists he can do some interesting stuff with his 5U U jump but it pales in comparison to other characters' mix
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Mid range PC bros, what settings do you use to run the game well?
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>>576913457
>Mid range
Bwo...
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>>576913457
everything on low
res/scaling on 70%
custom removed background textures and low poly
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>>576912969
medium divekick is +, all of his specials are + or -2/-4 with big pushback with parasite bomb, which is something you can almost always have up because you can just do normal into U into special move
>>576913154
>The overhead is 24f and can be mashed out of because the armor is quite shitty.
it's a game with assists dude. blocking a 24f overhead in any other game and blocking one where a posse is covering the screen in noise and blockstun are two different things
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>>576914083
>all of his specials are + or -2/-4 with big pushback with parasite bomb
they're all minus, none of them are plus with parasite
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>>576913606
I heard that everything on low makes it run worse than medium/high because of some retarded cpu reason. Is that true?
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>>576913457
for me I just hit the "default settings" button and it ran way better then when I was trying to downgrade (or what it decided was the optimal settings before I hit the button) and preloaded the shaders in the menu
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>>576914145
honestly i have no idea, from when i played the beta it ran so bad i instantly went for potato mode and never went back after i managed to get 60fps 99% of the time
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>>576914083
It being a tag game doesn't make the 24f overhead any harder to block. You don't have to react to it because he doesn't have any other options to mix in with it. All you have to do is hold back after 2M is out or fuzzy jump it and be safe. It's not threatening at all. His real mixup game is 5U U with certain assists to do held jH shenanigans or j214L crossups.
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>magneto loses all debris when a screen transition happens
this debris should really be some sort of meter he can charge instead of random shit on the field, it doesn't even do anything or interact with anything by being a floating object, it functionally just powers up his specials.
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>AMD R9 5900x
>4090rtx

works on my machine
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god i wish i could just fucking play this game online. please fix this shit arcsys im begging...
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damn, this is probably the most expensive fighting game i've ever seen.
How the fuck is a anime fighter more expensive than tekken/street fighter?

To compound this, seems like the port is garbage. Guess i will wait for a sale lol.
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>>576916029
Sony, baby
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was just labbing some Deadpool combos, I think I got a solo BnB for him aka a WGF loop, it's day 1 for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZoMyFdh7ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TqAGmWIDgo

a route I stole from someone else, but without the grenade gimmicks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbvAIAPbRkA
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Neutral assists should recharge one a time so there is an actual downside to throwing out all three of them at the same time.
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>>576893396
We call him Chin Satonaka
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I was really skeptical about this game at first, but the more I learn about it the more I like it
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>loki's air 3H command normal is a hard knockdown (can't be techrolled)
>and it gives him enough advantage for him to set a 2U trap directly on your head as a meaty, which is like +40 and after the combo ends so you get the meter free active tag

now I just need to figure out good ways to tag in loki mid combo to go into this and the true degeneracy can commence, sofar all I've found for ez combos into it is jump cancel 6H into a quick j.3h low to the ground
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Halfcircle back forward inputs can eat my fucking ass. I'm using the Smash Bros party inputs for level 3s in combo trials from now on.
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this thread is as dead as the game
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Why does the game take so long to start? I have to open it twice because fuck me I guess and then I have to wait like 2 minutes for it to open. Game runs fine without drops at least.
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Is nobody playing casual matches?
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>>576927259
>nobody playing
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>>576927259
I've gotten plenty of casual matches.
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I'm trying to learn Loki so I can have at least one character I can confidently tag into but he's harder than I expected. I don't really know what to do with him in neutral and it's harder than expected to land his cross up considering it's kind of slow, you can just jump out of it and the crossup protection in the game means trying to use your assists to keep the opponent in place while you do it won't actually crossup.
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>wake up
>still no patch
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>>576928664
It's less of a mix-up tool and more of a plus-on-block pressure reset. They have to either mash or jump, otherwise your turn continues, and mashing has the risk of getting countered. Still haven't found a good way to prevent them from just jumping it though.
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>>576929496
buy the game on epic, it runs perfect on epic
steam is the problem
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>>576921034
this is the fighting game way. youll learn more and like it and then youll get to try hard level and learn how bullshit everything is and learn to hate it again.
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>>576929616
no it doesn't kys
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>>576916029
>How the fuck is a anime fighter more expensive than tekken/street fighter?
Tekken and SF6 are at least 3 years old with multiple dlc season passes but I agree, it should’ve been $40
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Is the down down input just completely fucked? It's so inconsistent i'm tempted to just start using the fucking skill button
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>>576930337
ive seen fenritti vids mess up the input unless he was deliberately tea bagging and dropping hulk combos. i use skill button for 22 and 623 inputs. not worth the drop to me.
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>0 results on Rule 34 for the Promoter
What the fuck are artists doing?
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>>576930337
Just make sure you press the button at the same time as the second down input and it's pretty consistent. I was doing down, down, neutral, button at the beginning too and it never comes out like that.
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>>576930791
Canceling attacks into it works fine it is purely doing it raw that feels really bad
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Thank god we can savescum survival. Trying to deal with Doom and Champion otherwise would have been a nightmare
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This game's online is a revolving door of Black Panther, Blade and Magik
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>>576931443
black panther, blade, magik, spider man
the team you play if you are really daring
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>>576931206
hulk is super easy mode for that. ai has problem with ghost rider flame carpet too.
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>>576931443
Almost makes me want to choose the most niche of the fighters, I absolutely hate mirror matches
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>>576931801
youll be playing green goblin, danger, ms marvel and peni. see you in bronze 1.
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>>576932248
>youll be playing green goblin, danger, ms marvel and peni
Funny that you would list such a team.
https://www.twitch.tv/orumen
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Who is the Juri Han of Tokon? I need at least one femdom queen to be interested in this game
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>direction input + heavy in the air

what where they THINKING this feels so bad
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>>576886190
it's so weird that people spend their whole lives stalking this guy
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Man the DP input feels so fucking bad to me and I have no idea why, I've never struggled doing it in any other game I've played before. Sucks because even if I wanted to just lame it out with Quick Skill I'm trying to learn Blade and he gets neutered bad by not being able to choose which attack button he does the input with
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>>576932248
Yessir glory to the avengers
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Damn Hook is really liking this game
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>>576932695
It's fine if you use the autojump. It feels terrible when you need to forward jump though since 9h gives you 5h but outside of the trials it doesn't matter if you do jump cancel 5h instead of 6h
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>>576933170
It sucks so bad and I get it always when I don’t want to. After I do an air combo and try to keep it going after I call assist I always run up and press crouching medium to pick them back up and I almost always just get dp.
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>>576933170
>he gets neutered bad by not being able to choose which attack button he does the input with
???
You can choose the input strength even with quick skill. If you press only QS you get L version, if you press M+QS you get the M version and if you press H+QS you get H version.
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>>576934019
Oh, damn. I guess I should've actually done the tutorial, I just skipped it out of habit. Well, I should still try to learn the input regardless but that's good to know.
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Who else just labbing until they unfuck the pc port?
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Why didn’t they just make movement feel looser? Cap feels like he has weighted clothes on
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>>576934254
sony bs eac will never get fixed. Refund or suffer
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>>576934254
It's never getting fixed.
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Dead Shit Game
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What do I use caps down down attack for? It doesn’t even overhead
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>>576933673
I wasn't aware autojumping is a thing unless you mean launchers.
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>>576936112
The H version does
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why does every black person play blade and/or black panther
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>>576936132
you can do something like 2M > 2H > j.6H but just input 2M, 2H, 6H. do not hold up. on say Hulk, this will make him launch him in combo (not the cinematic dust jump launcher animation, just normal combo to airborne 2h) and immediately jump and do his 6H drop kick instead of having to jump and fight to get him to land the j.6H vs j.5H.
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>>576936510
I’m black and I play wolverine, cap and Deadpool until cyclops releases
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>>576928664
a lot of loki's mix is fake
really disappointing
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>>576936510
they're like the only 2 major Black Super heroes that have gotten movies, unless you count Steel, and no one counts Steel.
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Ironman is fun I wish I got the deluxe for his classic costume it looks nice in this game
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is there a way to start at real corner or turn off wall breaks without switching to xmansion?
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>>576936112
I think it is a low and the H version is a overhead.
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>>576884767
I hope they make the dlc better because this base roster is literally

No Fun: The Fighting
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>>576938075
If I remember correctly from the Strive days they stuck to a 2 women/2 men pattern.
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Man I hate how you gotta press the direction plus assist to get the normal assist to come out. I like to spam beam assists and even if you jab on someone blocking and press assist you get the other assist attack
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>>576938732
They're clunky as fuck yeah
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>>576930978
No one is playing the game, so no one is interested in drawing her. Also, Sony made it IMPOSSIBLE for people to rip the models from the PC version.
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>>576937779
No and I hate it, especially on that space stage because you just keep looping around with no wall
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Need to see Shuri piping Magik with her giant futa cock
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It is unbelievable how dead this general is for the release weekend of a pretty hyped fighting game.
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>>576939693
If anything, I expect Magik to be the Futa because of Demon Limbo stuff.
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>>576940002
>u-u-uunbelievable
How is it unbelievable if the game is literally dead slop
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>>576940002
everyone that wanted to play is on PC and can't play because the PC version is fucking dogshit thanks to sony
the only people who are double-dipping are PS5 are desperate compfags trying to make it big
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>day 3.5
>dustloop page still not filled despite having a few betas and framedata is present in training mode

what the fuck are those lazy bums doing
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>>576940002
4chan is 96% PC players on PCs from 2015 and they fucked up the PC port even for the 1% on good PCs.
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>>576940240
>trannyloop in 2026
the game is also standardized enough you don't even really need that much info
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AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME NEIGHBORHOOD SPODERMAN
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the champion is really cool but it sucks how his meter barely goes up even if you waste time posing
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>>576940346
Are we dying faster than DNF Duel......?
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>>576940348
It feels like they designed him so you’re supposed to lose the first two rounds but use it to build up meter for his install and then just win the last 3 rounds in a row.
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>>576940480
yeah
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>>576940240
dustloop is dead as fuck, so no surprise. everyone just dumps vids on x and it becomes impossible to find anything anymore. like dustloop forum has nothing for strive. i dont think they even have an axl subforum type of shit in the character list. just completely dead everywhere. cant find notation for anything or any optimal or discussion outside discord tranny controlled grooming zones.
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>>576940002
>It is unbelievable how dead this general is for the release weekend of a pretty hyped fighting game.

You forget that most people have now fucked off to their own Discord channels where they don't have to put up with attention faggots spamming the social media feed. Look at the pros and cons:

10MB+ clips with audio.
Talk to people you get on with
No more spam
Info is archived

Honestly, /vg/ boards are only still around out of habit, like how people still use Facebook out of habit. It's why I like to call them the graveyards of communities.
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>>576940578
posting a steam chart has to be the lowest iq thing you can do in gaming. literal retard level when consoles are average like 70-80% of the userbase for EVERY major multiplayer game.
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>>576940773
Fighting games have been primarily a PC genre for years now anon...
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Dude having to unlock your assists by doing transitions or wall combos has got to be in the top 5 dumbest features in a fighting game. Who’s idea was this gay shit?
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>>576940959
holy retard
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>>576907828
>you aren't meant to rely on chip damage like you do with Amane in BB.
Yeah I did say he was way too extreme. The problem is Carnage's chip damage is advertised multiple times throughout his guides and trailers as his main gimmick and it's still genuinely not even noticeable. This is not a chip heavy game in the first place but plenty of characters also just output more, like Storm
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>>576940959
I don't mind it. The wallbreaks become tedious when both teams have all 4 characters available though. It should be disabled after that happens.
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I was going to complain about Tokon not having replay takeover because I implicitly assumed ArcSys wouldn't do that, but then I went into replays and it does have replay takeover. I'm a little shocked.
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>>576940732
nigga i can't be a degenerate shitposter in discord with my name attached to it i wanna say nigger nigger nigger AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE DEAD GAME BRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAP BRAP BRAP unpunished ya dig?
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>>576940578
I hate sony so much
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>>576940773
He's not even posting steamcharts he is literally make fake charts and then spamming them in every fighting game thread.

Then if you point this out he calls you a tranny Indian that is lying and his charts are the real ones
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>>576940606
dude dustloop is always up to date with strive and the forums just reopened like a month a go after years. People just don't give a fuck about this game, simple as.
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>>576940606
>>576942196
Dustloop is hard to update for this game because of all the EAC crap not letting you use any proper frame counters or hitbox viewers on top of the game running like ass randomly making it difficult to just plain count the frames
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Why the troon audience isn't embracing this game like they did with Strive?
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>>576942338
arcys/anime players and tagslop players are not the same userbase
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>>576941920
Sucks being a blackpilled jaded retard huh?
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>>576942338
They hate Cape shit and tag games.
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>>576942421
I wouldn't describe myself that way, but I'm mainly just glad it has replay takeover, even if it is unexpected.
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>>576938697
That’e going to suck for superheros. There isn’t that many interesting female characters unfortunately and most of those that are are X-Men.
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>>576942338
All trannies are on Linux.
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Should’ve been a dc game. I would’ve looked past all the bad things if this had green lantern, flash, Superman and a sexy anime Wonder Woman. DC also has a better champion type character in mongul and war world stuff
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>>576942951
Post your DICKO hours
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>>576940959
>i want every match to look like clip related from round start
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>chucks spears at you
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>>576943189
This but unironically
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>>576940959
>how dare a fighting game be different and have built in escalation!!
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>>576943229
>Marries you
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Dead game
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>>576942951
Sadly we're stuck with evil Superman and manface Wonder Woman
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>>576942951
>tfw no Flash in DICKO
that FUCKING MOVIE ruined everything!
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>>576943597
being prince consort of wakanda doesn't sound bad
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>>576940773
It is retard level because many of us have been telling them for years that the PC playerbase is dwarfed by those on console. For example, I did research into their sizes with limited the information you can get (date of company sale milestones in comparison to PC sales) and found that on average, the fighting game playerbase on console is 4 to 5 times larger than PC.
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Schizo'ing aside, that PC Tokon situation does look completely dire and will probably have it ending up with a fate potentially worse than COTW

-Mass refunds, with people posting screenshots of their refunds, which will only make more people do it for attention.
- Active review bombing from both Linux/DRM/EAC complaints and optimization woes
- The biggest e-celeb in the FGC to not play the game, and telling the console playerbase to DISABLE crossplay. That will hurt PC <-> PS5 crossplay forever even if it's ever fixed (because most people won't even care to know or ever turn it back on)
- No roadmap/emergency update/etc from ArcSys Sony. No communication at all
- A permanent red warning indicator of a review rating on the Steam store page that takes even bigger games months/years to get recover from
- People are sharing/spreading voodoo level, nigger-rigged fixes like "if you install and uninstall EGS it will make the game run 10x better. Trust me!"
- Any modding level or nigger-rigged solutions that COULD solve things are impossible because the 20 layers of DRM have the game locked down harder than most banks
- They already ruined player trust by "promising" the Beta issues would be fixed by launch, which obviously didn't happen. So now the players can't even trust that they can fix it.
- Even if ArcSys could immediately fix it, everything has to go through two-three+ layers of bureaucracy because they're working with both Sony AND Marvel
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>>576942662
>There isn’t that many interesting female characters unfortunately
mega cap. i have a Marvel Rivals wishlist that's all women and its like 25 characters. and that's not counting ones already in Rivals like Psylocke and Emma Frost.
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>>576944179
Wankada has the best resources in the world too since they kept their super technology and cure for cancer secret from the world.
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>>576942951
>complaining when dicko is on the horizon and will take the entire video game world by storm
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>>576944185
Nigger we have hard data explicitly told to us by devs
Harada had a fighting game roundtable with all the producers and Tekken 7 for example, the latest Tekken game at the time had double the players on PC than consoles despite the PC port not even being that great
Oh and consoleniggers are twice as likely to be wififags than PC too
"Um I made some bullshit numbers in my mind" isn't real
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>>576943189
nasty ass game I don't know that I even want to leave the lab if this is what it will look like
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>>576944192
Sony is not gonna drop the game, it's doing well enough on PS5 to keep support going. Also even a big failure like Marathon is still being supported by them, Concord was the exception not the rule.
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>punk queuing ranked on ps5 with crossplay off
>has played against the same guy 3 times now
yeah this shit is fucked
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>>576943189
he was clearly just memeing on punk here, he even dashes back after calling 3 projectile assists to cover him from nothing
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>>576944543
tekken 8 is the latest game you fucking mongoloid and its the one with about 50% pc vs console and its a literal dog shit game no one wants to play. t7 was a console dominated playerbase.
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>>576901080
Silence, spic
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>>576944192
Nothing will happen.
>bu-
Nothing will happen.

And even if somehow something will happen, we'll play the game and get this kind of shit >>576943189

I'm a Diamond shitter but I already have retards just high jumping backwards spamming assist shit 24/7 until they land a hit which converts into a full combo because they play niggerblade or niggerman and they're so hard to punish it's insane.
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>time to colonize bp
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>>576944926
>The actual dev gathers all the directors for the major fighting games at the time to explicitly call you wrong and a retarded faggot with hard numbers in easily digestible images
>B-But it wasn't the case! He was wrong and so are you!
Lmao, no more (You)s
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>>576940773
Fighting games are primarily PC nowadays even in Japan. Both Harada and Capcom have said that PC makes up 70% of players for Tekken and SF.
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>>576945427
They also said how smaller playerbase games like UNI (this was pre UNI 2 release) or older ports are just flat out PC only
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>>576945427
>hurrdurr 70%

stop lying.
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>>576945659
>lose that entire 58%
damn
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Does Magik have a boyfriend in the comics?
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>>576945427
in what world are you pulling shit out of your ass about street fighter 6?
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>>576945850
yeah, me
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>>576945427
>Fighting games are primarily PC nowadays even in Japan. Both Harada and Capcom have said that PC makes up 70% of players for Tekken and SF.

Where are your sources?
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>>576944909
It’s early morning on a Sunday. Everyone’s still at church.
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>>576945880
>AI mumbu-jumbo
>>576945928
Fighting Game Roundtable is the name of the video line
It's all on Youtube
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wish I didnt buy from fanatical
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>Player: You teabagged and ragequit on all those players.
>Me: The Goblin did it! I had nothing to do with it!
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>>576945902
Colossus?
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>>576946054
>Fighting Game Roundtable is the name of the video line
>It's all on Youtube
Not good enough. When you claim there's a source to your information you provide to those that ask for it.
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I don’t think Wolverine is completely dogshit I think he’s just really fucking boring.
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>>576946395
yeah
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>>576946767
I don't play him but he looks fun in a braindead gorilla kind of way.
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>>576946767
thats the problem. magik does everything better with bigger buttons and dmg. wolverine so stumpy and just bland. just pray they mash or push buttons or you arent doing much.
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Who we watchin?
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How do you guys feel about using assist at the same time you push a normal to get active tag pressure for free? It seems good, but I feel like you're fucked if they press and beat you since your guys will be on top of each other
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I wonder if Deadpool will make some joke about they choose the worst Cyclops story to adapt.
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Fighting magik or magneto with all the trash and portals all over the screen along with fucking assists is insane.
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>Now there's reports of Tokon just melting pc parts
Yay...
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>>576949157
Lmfao Kek
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>>576949157
This is good heating apartments important. They now are allowed to buy ps5
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Hook said there should be no restrictions on assists
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Idk wtf they were thinking with Deadpool and his 4th wall moves. The fact you have to hurt yourself to gain access to them is dumb when they’re not even that much good of moves
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>mirror match between Champions
>keep posing all first round
kino
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>>576944192
i've been having a blast every since I refunded on steam and repurchased the expensive version on epic games though.
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>>576950876
no one is falling for this bait no matter how many times it's posted
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Be honest is this more fun than dbfz from a gameplay point of view
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>>576944242
Spider-Gwen and Gweenpool really. You also have Kamala your obviously just listing off female characters regardless if they are interesting at all.
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Everyone is very angry at Snoy but I don't like that it's running cover for Arcshit. It's very obvious they didn't get together in a room and say "make the PC port unplayable". Arcsys are the devs and they're the ones who let it go out like this.
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>>576951110
i would say not really, simply because there is no otg in this game
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>>576951110
you can't play neutral by just pressing 5LLLL and superdash so it's instantly way better for that alone, the characters also feel way more distinct instead of mostly just picking what angle/color you want your beam/lariat/ki blast to be as you do the exact same combo for every character
>>576951865
yeah it does
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If the PC version needs fixes, I hope they get it done soon. I'd like to play with the other low level mashers before the game becomes all sweats online....
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>>576952036
show me clips of otg existing in this game
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>>576951110
I think it's better than launch DBFZ but much worse than like season 2 onwards. As a whole I think DBFZ is a much better designed game with much better systems, 1000000x better movement, etc. Tokon has more interesting characters I guess
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>>576949157
mine doesnt get that loud when I play but shit like this always scares me
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>>576952162
what do you think the basic knockdown -> use assist to pick them back up is

if this doesn't count many characters can put you into a dedicated hard knockdown where you can still hit them but if you don't they're in a state where they're forced to stand up neutral instead of techrolling, like champion 5H on air hit or blade 214H with sword buff.

as champ try to do 2M 5H 214M, it combos when it doesn't on standing hit because of this hard knockdown state, if neither of these count even though in both cases you're literally hitting them off the ground you just have autism idk
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>>576952396
lol, these are the fans sony wanted to appeal to and "bring in" to the fgc. I mean trannies and fags have been here for a while but this is a whole new level of fagdom
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>>576952561
>basic knockdown -> use assist
that's not an OTG there's just insane hitstun on everything in this game + no hitstun decay so people "float" forever for combos
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>>576952792
I did a move that knocks them down like a typical end of combo that lets them tech roll afterwards, but before that I hit them with something to keep the combo going, exactly like how OTG worked in mvc2

again you're gonna have to outline what giga autistic and specific kind of words you're using that "count" as otg but this is all pretty irrelevent when the game obviously has better combos then dbz did because for one thing half of it isn't a fucking cutscene playing
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>>576952792
Do you even know what OTG stands for
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>>576953142
>I did a move that knocks them down like a typical end of combo
you're not knocking them down though. doing jH jH in the air for example isn't a knockdown in this game like other games, it just sends them to the floor and spikes them. they're still floating, not in a proper knockdown state
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>>576951371
Kamala is interesting, dummy. and yes, both Gwen's are awesome.
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I don't think I should be punished for having my 2H airblocked if I don't cover it with an assist or cancelling.
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>>576953637
Why?
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>>576952482
>mine doesnt get that loud when I play
Mine either but I still get full PC freezes if I dare go online somehow so I just gave up, I actually believe it at this point
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>>576946395
That's her brother. And even Russians avoid that stuff if they can.

As far as I know in current comics she's single, and has mainly just had flings and one-night stand stuff in the past.
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>>576953695
It's not universal that you'll have a good special to cancel into and the only reliable anti air shouldn't be gated behind the assist meter. I'm not saying it should lead to pressure but it shouldn't be a risk.
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>>576953637
>my massive invincible anti air that vaccums them into my hands and sets up a strong combo should also be safe
>>576954025
>every character should have the exact same tools and play the exact same even more

no hard feelings but you have terrible ideas
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There's not a way to change button combos light L+A or M+H right? The mapping in this game is fucking retarded
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>>576954201
no but you can bind those on separate buttons lol
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>>576954196
Yes it's a fucking anti air
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why bother with kusoge
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>>576954025
It absolutely should be a risk. Why shouldn't it be?
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>>576954297
>my anti air should be extremely high reward and low risk

you can already air to air, move around them to make them whiff, call assists, do the assemble counter backdash thing use every characters designated DP move, do any move, do any move with armor including the universal one, do an anti air 5l shoot projectiles in the air, and airthrow them out of their own moves because this is a "grabs outspeed throws and can grab extended hitboxes" game,

all those things require nuance and timing to work in a way 2H, the most brainlet option that's 1 button, can be mashed on block, is gigantic and vaccums you in on hit and leads into a full combo on hit can probably be okay being punishable sometimes for some characters unless you want the entire game to be "hitting 2H vs baiting 2H".

you sound like a sf6 player that doesn't understand all the options he has because he's used to playing giga binary "he does X so I must do Y" games
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>>576954813
what else are you gonna do, play 3s until the sun burns out?
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>>576954975
man I kinda fucked up some of the formatting on that lole. throws outspeed NORMALS. 5f throw vs like 10-14f jumpins
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>>576954869
>>576954975
It's not a risk on the majority of characters in the majority of situations because it's cancellable, so there's no need to make it unsafe by itself. It adds literally nothing to the game and just makes it worse.
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I'm glad I pirated this dogshit game, how do you fuck up a MARVEL ANIME game man, Sony/Arc are retarded jews.
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>>576955231
By that logic all normals should be safe on block because you can cancel them. You're retarded
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>>576955446
why are you lying
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>>576955231
having to spend assist to make it safe means you're not spending that assist meter on anything else. if it was naturally safe then you could mash 2H AND mash assists at full power. what makes a game worse is when the entire meta is baiting out bullshit cutscene anti airs like dbz was unless you play a character privlidged enough to not have literally all your approach tools have head attribute so you auto lose to little timmy pushing this button at random and have to think twice as hard to approach at all
again if it was literally the only anti air you'd have a point, but it's not
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>>576955581
the pirating was likely a lie but hold the rest those are facts
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>>576955581
I'm not, it's been cracked
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>>576955461
If you can't tell the difference between that and the only universal defensive option against jumps then you must be retarded. No wonder all the tag games are dead.

>>576955596
But all the not shit characters don't even have to spend assist they can OS their anti air special. It's a punishment for the already shit characters.
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>>576955743
>ok I lied about one part of my unhinged post but the REST is true
literally less believable then your first post dude
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>>576955775
RUINED REPUTATION FOR EVER DIDNT EVEN DO THE 1 THING
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>>576955926
>the only universal defensive option against jumps
it isn't
>But all the not shit characters don't even have to spend assist they can OS their anti air special.
you mean the ones that are also massively unsafe on block?
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I'm not lying kek, works on my machine, no PSN required either.
Reminder to never paypig for fighting games if you have IRL friends to play with
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>>576955926
>the only universal defensive option against jumps
2H is not the only option you have against jumps. Again, you are retarded.
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>>576942951
Fuck no retard. Even if warner weren't so strictly anti jap when it comes making games they'd be as much anti fun assholes as bamco with dbfz. Game wouldn't look as good as tokon because they wouldn't want it to and DC would straight up be barking orders on who to put in and who not to put in unlike marvel with tokon so a less known character like champion would have zero chance of being a boss let alone playable.
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>>576956430
You aren't air throwing consistently in this one and parry is metered.

>>576956094
Oh you're actually retarded, you os the cancel after 2H.
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>>576884767
Game that bad it needs Granblue to save it?
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>>576957002
If you think air throw and parry are your only other options for anti airs then you have a long ways to go buddy
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>>576951110
Nobody in Tokon is as fun as Adult Gohan.
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Cant decide if I should refund or not.
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Miller high life or lite?
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>>576952036
>5LLLL and superdash
>exact same combo for every character
You sound like a green square that played 2 hours of dbfz
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>>576958139
if you're on PC the safe bet is to refund and wait to see if they fix the game or not
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>>576958276
high life
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>>576958139
refund and leave a negative review
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>>576958347
But my preorder bonuses...
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>>576958336
Bardock 5LLL on whiff was really fucking stupid.
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>>576958481
A lot of 5LL/5LLLs on whiff were, them working on whiff was the dumbest thing in the entire game. That's not how the game was played at a mid or high level tho. Superdash especially is incredibly easy to punish on reaction.
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>>576958276
planning on drinking all day? lite
otherwise, high life
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>>576957002
>you os the cancel after 2H.
yeah I'm aware of the concept, you're OSing a cancel into a special move that is ALSO FUCKING UNSAFE though
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>>576958574
>Superdash especially is incredibly easy to punish on reaction.
The problem with superdash was never that it was hard to punish, it was how it's existence warped the entire game.
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>>576937056
Yeah, it's really hard to get around the crossup protection. It feels like you have to stagger whatever move is going to hit the other side a bit. This is the most realistic crossup with him I could find and it's still a bit finicky, it only works because 22H is a multi-hit so you can delay calling the assist to one of the additional hits, which leaves a gap but makes it crossup. If you do it early its gapless but doesn't crossup. I suppose it's also pretty obvious that the mix is coming in because of how obvious the 22H animation is but varying the assist call timing and all the options Loki has after 22H make it so it's still not that bad I think. I do feel like high/low mix is a lot better in general though because it doesn't have so many guardrails up around it.
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Kamala color 8 is making my dick swell and ache
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>>576955775
https://crackrelease.com/marvel-tokon-fighting-souls/
why are you lying lil nigga?
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>>576884767
goyslop Israeli funded snoy game
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>didnt even get close to DBFZ
>players halved in 2 days
LMFAO
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>>576960931
I'm playan it right now doe >>576956412
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>>576960778
Loki can do 236L hold into instant airdash for a fairly fast overhead, at least by this game's standards.
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>>576960406
At a high level superdash didn't really change how the game played very much. Its only real purpose past a certain level of skill was superdash + assist for EZ 50/50 and as combo filler. You very rarely use it as a neutral tool because a 2H in that game lead straight to death.
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>>576944757
>Sony the massive conglomerate that pumps and dumps hundreds of games a year while letting the vast majority of them rot isn't going to drop a tiny fighting game that crashed and burned in 3 days
why is it always fighting game players with the most retarded delusions?
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>>576961793
If you only exist within the fighting game scene you lose perspective of how small the genre is. That being said, it is expensive to get a marvel license, so I doubt they will completely abandon the game.
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>>576960996
Ive never seen a game drop players during the opening weekend before
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>>576960996
DBFZ chads stay winning.
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can we get a good licensed 1v1 game with this kind of budget next since this is clearly not going to last without a big revamp
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>>576961793
mega doomer post
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>>576963003
never seen a game as bad as tokon either
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>>576963003
It was the only way things could go given the state of it. If people thought the game was bad but it was still functional then it would probably still have a good amount of players, but there's no point in booting up a game that doesn't even function on a basic level.
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Pc fixed yet?
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>>576960996
Marvel just isn’t a popular IP compared to Dragon Ball.
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>>576963841
No this shit is just ass and mvc/xvsf is bigger than people think, people literally grew up with that shit in the 90s it’s damn near as important to as sf2
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>>576963532
MK1 exists
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It's not an IP issue it's just word of mouth. More people play games, fighting games especially, on PC than ever. Having a fundamentally broken PC port kills your game
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>>576963841
i don't think that's true. this game just lost a LOT of momentum because of the PC beta and launch day performance issues. all of this could be fixed this time next year but its gonna be crucial for ArcSys to act quickly and decisively to solve the crippling problems facing their multiplatform game.
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This game needs a playlist so I can take out all the shitty stage themes
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>Think Peni is good because you can toss a gadget and convert off of it
>Play ranked
>People get the same thing just by spamming their assists with less of a commitment
Is she worse than I thought, or is there secret tech I'm not aware of...?
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This game makes me want to play DBFZ.
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>>576964871
Peni is probably the weakest character in the game
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>>576965006
Same. But then I remember how retarded Arcsys/bamco got with the last few balance patches. It's way too scrubby now.
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>>576961132
I don't know what this is a screenshot of
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>>576960406
>it was how it's existence warped the entire game.
good
it's fucking dragon ball
it's how they fight
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Any character good against Magik? I'm getting really tired of that whore.
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>>576966075
supposedly ghost rider
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>>576960778
using jump 3H he can setup a trap on their body and its hard knockdown so they can't roll away, have you played around with that and doing crossups? is the protection assist only or just all blockstun? even then you might be able to crossup with the trap itself
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>>576964871
hey dumbass, peni gets for free what other characters need assists to do, which means peni can do it twice as well with trap + assists

much in the same way if you have two guns you can shoot at two different things
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>>576966232
I don't even know a combo route with 3H, so I haven't touched anything like that, do you have the combo route or a clip of it?
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>>576965153
>making the cunny coded character weak on purpose
standard goyslop
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>>576966408
I was fucking with it last night for a minute and haven't had time to find anything solid, but when you're low to the ground you can jump cancel air 6H into it (something like 2m/5m jh j6h -> double jump -> j3h

I had the dummy set to roll forward and assemble backdash counter thing on wakeup and he would just eat the trap for +40 every time so it seems real and fucked up, since the game doesn't have hitstun decay you should be able to drop that sequence off any random knockdown -> assist pickup situation
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>>576966354
Assist in neutral only costs you a little bit of cooldown. Using Peni's gadgets commits your point character into doing the toss animation. Neither are free, but just calling your assist is much lower risk.
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>>576960996
like 80% of dbz's playerbase was just people doing single player/co-op against CPU stuff which means they effectively don't exist because I'm never actually matching against them
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>>576966692
Arcsys wanted to make Strive Faust and Peni drew the short straw
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Any pro players picking up Carnage? I want to see more of him
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>>576966890
hey dumbass, you can call an assist and THEN throw peni gadgets to cover the startup literally 1f after you hit the assist button for a free assist call, then you cover multiple angles at once
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>>576966904
that's not true, tons of people were playing that game online even years into its life when it still had delay netcode. i would know, i played it for 2,000 hours
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>>576967008
punk was playing him in the TNS tournament last night

>>576967038
tons of people, in the same way I can boot up tokon right now and see 100s of people in the open lobies for west coast america alone, but when people post dbzs thousands and thousands of players it's mostly people playing it as a dragon ball game and not as a fighting game - that's just a fact. in a 1v1 game you don't need millions of players
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should i be watching brian f, lord knight, or dia phone
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>>576967038
>that's not true, tons of people were playing that game online
because you were forced to go online even to do single player shit in that game so they can pad the numbers. I would walk by peoples little goku avatars but they were all doing single player shit
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>>576967165
>punk was playing him in the TNS tournament last night
he got washed by a mashing Magik, prolly played by a tranny
>tranny magic
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https://www.twitch.tv/lordknight
some streamer tourney
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>>576967292
Both Brian F and Diaphone are from here
LK is truly /ourguy/ though, despite not being from 4chinz he follows our ways
Plus he picks characters with his dick
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anyone have a good magneto bnb?
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>>576967165
>punk was playing him in the TNS tournament last night
Cool, anyone else to watch? Hopefully one that won't drop the game in a week and go back to his main game?
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>>576967709
>Hopefully one that won't drop the game in a week
everyone dropping this game in a week
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>>576966743
I think you're mistaken, I just checked and they still roll forward after 3H. Did you set Ground Recovery and Wakeup to roll forward? If you set Wakeup to roll forward then the dummy should to it even after j.3H
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>>576967583
Yipes has been labbing Magneto exclusively. I'd check there.
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>>576964871
>peni
>danger
>ms marvel
unfortunately the three cutest girls are bottom 3 in this game
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>>576967709
fenrich seems to be playing him https://www.twitch.tv/fenrittifgc
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pozzed capeshit btw
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>>576967165
>>576967298
>it's all just people in lobbies doing single player
simply not true. dbfz had long lasting competitive appeal. its majors and world tour even recently still pulled very impressive viewership despite it clearly being a game past its heyday that most have moved on from.

it took legitimately 5-6 years for that game's playerbase to take a noticeable hit to its numbers from what it stabilized to after initial launch. there's no way you believe people were playing the singleplayer of that game for that long
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>>576968010
ms marvel has the best AA assist
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>>576968217
champion/peni better
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>>576968010
I'm not good at the game, but I also hate myself enough to try and main Peni. I heard Ms. Marvel is good though. Danger if they fix her hover dash will instantly be good.
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>>576968127
Black Panthress and Magik both have a fat ass, cute face, and jiggly thighs though, how is it pozzed?
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>>576968346
I don't think she is bad bad, she just commited the crime of having no air dash or mix in a tagslop game. Her Unique skill is good, but once your opponent has 3 assists it gets very hard to use without being clipped by something
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i hope ArcSys posts the results of that "what characters would you like to see" survey someday. i'd love to know who the most requested heroes were.
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>punk keeps getting the same one-sided rollback pc player in ranked
>fenritii sitting in queue for ages watiing for a match
it's over
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>>576968632
They do, we'll see the results some day. They don't really hide them
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>>576968607
Disingenuous, it's miles better than Street Fighter 6 and Mortal Kombat. Those games are 100% ugly goblinas. Every character in those games looks like picrel
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>>576968958
sf6 has some pretty hot girls but it's basically the exception in modern games. its artstyle overall and in motion is quite ugly unfortunately
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>>576969134
I can count on 1 hand the amount of SF6 girls that are attractive, Mortal Kombat I don't need to count because there legitimately are zero, Tekken has some hotties but the game sucks unfortunately. Tokon mogs
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Yipes and Wong are still fucking great for people who've stopped properly competing two fucking decades ago
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>>576940732
Thats such a cope its hilarious. Rivals general moves 4 times faster negro.
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>guy who monitors how fast the tapestry moves on an indonesian basket weaving forum
who in the actual fuck, cares
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>>576969335
tokon has literally 1 hot girl. maybe 2 if you like niggers. i don't like sf6 but chun, mai, and cammy are hot as fuck. i can see a case for viper and ingrid depending on taste
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>>576969657
>tokon has literally 1 hot girl. maybe 2 if you like niggers
I don't like them and even I think Storm is extremely hot
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>>576969393
>Rivals general moves 4 times faster
That's easy to answer. Pay up paypig.
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>>576969528
Shitskin.
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>>576969657
>he doesn't think Shuri is hot
where is your appreciation for faceless women? the mask stays on during sexxooo.
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>>576970648
faceless chads, rise up
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>>576970648
the outfit is fine i just don't find it attractive, and the whole niggerwoman from niggerland schtick is a turn-off. magik is the only sexo in tokon to me
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>>576970809
my brother!

>>576970826
that's fair. at least you're not being a pedo about Peni. i think she's cute, but i'm not a freak about it.
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>>576968607
surely there are limits to shitposting
Magik is drop dead gorgeous
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>>576968607
I will never get tired of this image being posted
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>>576968920
hell yeah, that's what we like to hear.
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LK is so bad he can't even win on random..
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>>576961793
Being entirely honest this game could be the floppa of the century and it'd still probably get two seasons minimum because I imagine they're contractually obligated to. Even that dogshit Avengers game that came out a couple years back was supported for a minute.
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>>576972710
that game is good
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Does any character have Akuma's command grab where he does a Ashura Senku teleport into command throw?
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>>576961793
Sony also puts ludicrous amounts of money in those other shitty live service games. Concord famously took like 8 years to make. A game like Tokon was definitely lower budget (they priced it at $60 too) and probably is already profitable just going off PS5 sales which a large amount of the casuals are at.
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>>576972998
Fuck off attention faggot. You absolutely know this answer otherwise you wouldn't be asking it.
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>>576973131
shame this is not a grab, would have been super strong but obv they could have balanced around that
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>>576972998
magneto command grab with the magnetism on your opponent (almost never btw) is similar
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>>576972816
>that game is good
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>>576973901
Historically, good beat em ups haven't been well liked by most people.
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capeshit copers going nuts today
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>>576942951
For real.
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>>576960778
>>576937056
>>576928664
How useless is this fire sword. I see nobody go for it.
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>>576974870
I think it's just a bit of a damage buff. I've gotten it plenty of times but it hasn't meaningfully changed how I played. I think all of those buffs you get for a super are kind of useless because if you landed a combo with that super the round is probably about to be over in your favor anyway.
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>>576933575
He's delusional, this is the same guy that glazes Invincible. He, like a lot of us, just hope for a DBFZ2, but the rest of us won't delude ourselves into thinking this is it.
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lobby status?
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>>576975021
Marvel characters for this feel?
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>my registered teams past 2 keep getting deleted every time i boot up the game
>my avatar lobby resets to default every time too
what is this shit? is this happening to anyone else?
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>>576975229
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>>576975308
i read that if you use unlockable colors then your teams get reset
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>>576975387
That's not a cute girl with well endowed tits, that's Dr. Doom.
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>>576975504
Doom is the cutest and well endowed where it counts.
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this game is so good but the pc port is so bad, i think i'm gonna have to take a break from playing online until it gets fixed which is a shame. i really love playing this, and i have good specs but whenever you play vs someone who doesn't its genuinely unplayable.... FUCK its so frustrating. i will not be buying a ps5 just for one game fuck that man
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Sony...
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>>576973131
That's not a command grab nufag
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>>576976446
Snoy...
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>ynos
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The uninstall was performative.
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>>576975021
wrong bread i reckon
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>>576976864
good, i'm glad he's using his platform to shit on the pc version
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>>576976864
Like everything this guy does
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We're all rightfully shitting on Sony but I don't doubt UE5 is half to blame. This is ASW's first game on that engine (I think) and I haven't heard anything good about it. ASW doesn't release broken games, at least not to the extent of TOCOOM, but they aren't competent developers either. Strive's XBOX patch, the minute long Strive login that could be bypassed with a mod, Granblue's endmatch lock bug and so on and so on...
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>>576972816
>that game is good
why did they shut it down after 3 years?
>Tokon has a 10 year plan
I'm sure it won't suffer a similar fate
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Don't PS have their own steamcharts now?
Also, don't they release sales?
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>>576977382
it's a mix of various things but sony will get all the blame
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>>576977690
i think we should blame sony even if they aren't 100% at fault, because their choices are the most cancerous part of it all (the 5 different anticheats)
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>>576977690
I'm fine with that
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>>576977382
has nothing to do with UE5 really, UE5's most common issues are shader stutter and intensely graphically demanding games because nanite/lumen/etc are dogshit. this game rapes CPUs like no other game I've seen in many years, and it's honestly not even close. it's the DRM. not the sony sdks. the DRM.
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I heard the voice acting for other languages is really good and makes the women sound hotter. Give me voice setting reccs for each character.
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I keep bumbling around trying to do the same routes in those combo lessons with slight adjustments for hours instead of using different starters or copying twitter homework
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Tourist visiting from the rivals general. Is this game really already dying?
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>>576977382
>ASW doesn't release broken games
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>>576978303
mexican because i want to fuck brown women
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>>576978505
nope, a fighting game only truly dies if it goes under 200 concurrent players and the fact that most people are playing on ps5 and its still doing over 10k and beating SF6 during NA hours is a good sign despite the rape of the pc port
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>>576978505
yes if they don't fix the pc port
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>>576978505
only brown people play fighting games and it's 60 dollars so do the math
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Is there a season 1 bardock in this?
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>>576979952
wolverine
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>>576979952
Everyone has a lariat assist
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The fact that you can get non-laggy matches and no one is reporting intermittent issues means that if there was a benchmark the matchmaking would be completely fine. Just lots of people who shouldn't be playing wouldn't be allowed to.
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KMB lads, what layout do you use in this game?
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Has there ever been a fighting game launch this bad?
Even UNI with its non functional matchmaking or L*mina with its desyncs were better really
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>>576984902
sf5 obviously
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>>576984902
The newgens have FORGOTTEN about SFV...
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Literally just stole capcoms block animation for Ironman. Be original fags
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>>576985064
everyone is trying to memory block SFV tbqh
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Genuinely think if they could stop the people with stutters going online for now it would be okay. As soon as you start playing ranked the connections get way better because the only people still playing aren't having issues. I don't think there's any problem with the netcode
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mvc3 unironically looks better than tokon
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>>576985541
i disagree but also mvc3 is one of the best looking fighters ever, it has a truly timeless art style
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>>576985017
>>576985064
Yeah I actually don't remember, wasn't it a pretty functional but pretty boring and gay game
It did have a week or two with the malware insertion from capcom but that wasn't release
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>>576985064
But SF5 is a Zoomer fighting game.
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>>576985913
lol no it had the worst rollback implementation of all time, no single player content, and you were forced to always be online
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>>576985913
Capcom maware insertion
Dogshit netcode with one sided rollback
8 frames input lag
Barely any single player content (no arcade or survival mode)
PS4 exclusive for almost a year and when it launched on PC the port was also problematic
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>>576986240
Reminder that the cause of this was figured out by a modder who fixed the issue then capcom updated the game to prevent the mod from working and then never implemented the fix.
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>>576984902
I think UNI2 was worse than this, at least there is a version of this game that functions even if it's platform restricted. UNI2's issues also feel exacerbated by the fact that it really couldn't afford to fuck up and then it fucked up big time at the first hurdle, but still.
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>>576986240
its crazy tho how much of tokons release is mirrored by sf5s release. sf5 didn't start improving until sony fucked off
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>>576986240
SFV had simultaneous release across all platforms.
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>>576986592
>>576986240
capcom malware insertion happened after launch though
>PS4 exclusive for almost a year and when it launched on PC the port was also problematic
it came out on Console/PC at the same time

How the fuck did you forget something that only happened like 10 years ago
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>>576986910
>>576986762
Yes, I was remembering wrong. The idea of it being exclusive hovered my mind but it was because it didn't release on Xbox
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>>576986910
i completely forgot it wasn't an exclusive lol
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>>576986240
>multiple moments where you can see the right sides clock tick down noticeably faster than the left
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how fuckd up is the meta gonna be in a month from now?
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Why does arcsys have a boner for wallbreaking now when after you break a wall you still have to hold pressure I thought the whole point was getting out of the corner.
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>>576987297
it's already fucked up
if your character(s) can easily IAD overhead or mix from something like a normal or special (bp and spidey) you're leagues ahead
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>>576987297
I don't think mixups are going to get too crazy because the basic options are already strong af.
With how combo scaling works though, I wouldn't be surprised if someone puts together a team that is a tod on any stray hit.
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>>576987297
everyone works the same, you just blockstring, spam assist and go for random overheads/left rights, there isn't anything more beyond that
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>>576988049
combo limit and meter gain + required use to keep combos going is going to prevent ToDs from getting too out of hand. what's going to define a good team is how well they can convert off of stray hits, the oki they get on knockdown, and mixup capability on block.

the meta is going to revolve around damage + mixup potential
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If your character doesnt have an air ok super they're gay and so are you.
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>>576988639
If you're an attention faggot, you should jump off a bridge because it's the most attention you will ever get in your life.
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>>576988639
I hate that some characters don't have an aerial level 1 super
why the fuck can blade use his in the air but fucking spiderman can't?
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>>576984902
This is not even the worst ArcSys launch, let alone the worst fighting game launch. The game works on PS5 without issue (barring minor fuck-ups like the team saving not working if you use colors 5-8) and also works for most PC users, the only real issue is the people who can't run the game because of the shit port still insist on going online and ruining the game for others.
In comparison, Strive took over 5 minutes just to launch (and I feel like people forget how absurdly long time that is for a video game) had no real matchmaking of any kind which then forced you to do the matchmaking yourself, which also didn't fucking work because the duel stations were extremely buggy and the lobbies extremely laggy and unstable. It also had no ping indicators, so your efforts to actually get into a match were rewarded with some 200ms brazilian/african/chinaman.
And when we move past just ArcSys, there have been cases like UNI2, Samurai Shodown PC release (it was released as an exclusive for a platform that doesn't even exist anymore) and of course SF5.
Tookon launch is terrible for it's long-term prospects, but hardly the most fucked launch for a fighter, terrible launches are more of a rule than an exception for fighting games. It's a big part why SF6 managed to sustain an audience, it actually released in a fairly feature-complete state.
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Does anyone know how reversal supers actually work? I don't know if it's training mode bug or they're not 1f invincible but the generic iad oki is counterhitting them.
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They should add a mechanic to force switch out your opponents point person
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should I play ironman or cap
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>>576989560
fuck off ok
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>>576989560
snap back doesn't really work in this game, worked better in mvc3 when you actually had to use all 3 characters and some character's whole point was being an X-factor fiend (or just phoenix in general)
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>>576989374
50-meter supers aren't frame 1 invincible. 100-meter supers are. Dunno about Tookon Assemble.
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>>576989279
>and also works for most PC users, the only real issue is the people who can't run the game
>
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>>576990319
I know it's hard to believe, but people who can't run the game at a stable fps are a minority. A very large minority true enough, but still a minority, a majority of PC users can run the game fine. Obviously it's still a huge issue and I'm not in any way trying to defend ArcSys or Sony, but at least most people can play the game, unlike with Strive where all the issues that plagued it affected everyone who lived in the West. Calling this the worst launch for a fighting game is ludicrous, it's just yet another terrible launch in a sea of terrible launches.
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ironman is sick
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>>576990594
Stutters literally happen on flagship hardware and are enough to force the one sided 8 frame rollback occasionally
No more (You)'s
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I'm surprised that they kept Betsy as the Psylocke in Tokon. Some people would say it's problematic to have a white woman in the body of a japanese woman.
Perks of ArcSys being a eastern company I guess
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>>576990594
Steam CCU drop off says otherwise. You have no idea what you're talking about. A majority of PC players abandoned ship and only like 40% of reviews are positive. So you really have no data to back up this "it's fine on a majority of PCs" notion

I have a 5070ti and a 7800x3D and it microstutters like crazy for me if I try to lock it at 60. It uses like 80% of my CPU with some threads hitting 100% randomly. And my PC is far above the average user's
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>>576990594
Strive was bad but I could play lobbies with my friends and if a cab got fucked then restarting the game meant you could play again. Once you were in a game you were fine. There's nothing you can do here to play with people affected by stuttering which is unrelated to hardware.
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>>576991679
I have the exact same and 32gb ddr5 ram and it runs flawlessly lol.
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I'm convinced that it doesn't matter what is your rig as long as you clear the minimum requirements. If you will be able to run the game or not depends only on what the anticheat is interacting with in your system that's why it works for some people and not for others
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Nobody gives af pc fags
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>>576991879
Wish it ran flawlessly for me. Locking my fps at 59 seems to eliminate most of the microstuttering, and I tested online with a west coast (I am east coast) friend and he didn't report any one sided rollback over 10-15 matches. But the microstutter still exists to a point and my online matches have been pretty much 50/50 decent/awful

Even if the microstuttering were gone tomorrow, there's no fucking way this game should be using 80% of a 7800x3D like this.
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I'm running this shit on a 7600/RTX4060 combo if your on unholy 60000 dollars pc can't run it without issues you need to learn how to use a pc
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>>576992792
Retard
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>>576992947
nigger
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better be a patch tomorrow that fixes all of this or we're going to see some shit
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>>576989654
Only you can make these decisions.
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How come Spiderman's allowed to do his gay little axe kick but I'm not allowed an overhead j.L
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>>576989654
Hypothetically speaking, if superheroes existed, do you think they should be government employees and have their identities made public?
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is punk the only notable player playing carnage point?
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I really like Green Goblin's color 7 but I don't want to do this gay singleplayer shit
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>>576993696
have to sell brand new day tickets
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are they ever gonna shorten the combos, add some scaling or something? I don't like 60 hits combos, boring to do boring to get, that's why i dropped 2xko and no i don't like mvc
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>>576991675
don't really mind the bodyswap stuff but was hoping for kwannon or sai. psylocke just feels right as purely japanese
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>>576993819
play iron man and spam bullshit
you can save scum it too
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>>576991675
>Some people would say it's problematic to have a white woman in the body of a japanese woman

Why? Isn't this the perfect trans?
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Are there any other characters like Storm where their wallbreak is tied to an extra mechanic instead of just having one move you cant use in the corner if you want to keep them there?
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>>576993963
if you don't like combos then why the fuck are you trying out a tag game you moron
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never seen a game die faster
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He said this in Hikari's chat and Hikari agreed.
DBFZ/Strive players do not like this shit. I can see the Tokon appeal if you're new to the genre.
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Capeshitters...
Snoys...
Arcsisses...
It's over.
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>>576990594
runs fine with egs
steam is the problem
stop being a steam cuck
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>>576994791
ok but those guys like 2xko
say the game is shit and dying due to steamcharts but don't try to use those freaks for an argument lol it's a blessing the undesirables are sorting themselves out
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>>576994791
Yup. It's time we moved on to the true promised land of 2XKO.
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>>576994745
cause i like arcsys games and i like how deep each character is. Longish combos are fine, 20-30 hits max, 50 is retarded and you start spending more time in combos than neutral
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>>576994791
a month. Just a month for the honeymoon phase to be over and you will see a radical pivot in opinions
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Any rekka characters in Tokon?
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>>576995961
Lol
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>>576995961
Wolverine
Ghost Rider
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>>576993963
There's already a timeout system for when combos get too long and they just decide your combo is over no matter what.
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>>576994791
it's definitely worse than dbfz. dbfz had its issues but it never really was the scrubby mashy game lots of tag haters acted like it was. neutral in that game was amazing before they went bonkers making every lariat fullscreen and invuln.

tokon i feel like is really THAT tag game made for drooling morons and mashers. it's fun and the characters are unique but you're consistently going to get 2 touched from fullscreen confirms with only 1 healthbar, no defensive mechanics, and some of the most ignorant gorilla characters ever. the meta is gonna get stale quick
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what are some other GBVS characters they can put in besides Magik
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>The fucking leaderboards can crash the game
Jesus fuckkkk
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>>576996548
too long
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>>576995584
>>576995791
Kamala makes for the best gf, she can grow her body around to do whatever you're into
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>>576996889
vanish alone is worse then anything in tokon in terms of neutral - you're out of your mind
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>>576984902
>le doom
you niggas are doing the most.
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>>576997769
She could grow her clit into a penis...
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>>576997781
huh? vanish is airborne and easily 2H'd which commonly leads into ToDs in dbfz. vanish isn't a neutral tool
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>>576997685
It's funny that people think Arcsys is completely blameless and every single problem with the game is because of Sony when arcsys has always been shit at making games run and now they are doing it with UE5 an engine known for being fucking garbage
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>>576884767
The soundtrack for tokon is filled with so much soul... i dont even play fighters anymore and this actually has me contemplating jumping on it. storm, wolvie, magik, goblin and carnages themes in particular blew me away
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>>576997685
this game is such a piece of shit
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>>576996963
why is magic a gbvs character
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Is spamming assist and confirming when you tag something the optimal way to play?
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>>576995584
>>576995791
>Embiggen
How to get heroes on her side, 101.
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>>576997985
I feel the complete opposite way. I hate the music
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>>576997950
wym, asw games run perfectly
being buggy pieces of shit is another thing, and yes, that screenshot is an example of a classic asw moment
but actually running the game, nah
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>>576997889
i'm not talking about raw vanish, I'm talking about being able to tag someone with any random hit and cancel into vanish to be + on block and in their face completely ending neutral because they got hit by 1 beam or lariat
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>use storms ultimate at full screen
>do 26000 damage
>use storms ultimate at full screen while every single enemy assist is active and hit all of them
>do 29000 damage

The actual payoff for hitting assists seems really bad. There is really zero downside to spamming them even if they get hit.
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dont forget that you can cancel into vanish on whiff so it makes bullshit 5L autocombos even more ignorant because you try to whiff punish and they get to teleport behind u and slap your ass
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>>576995791
why does she have to be garbage?
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>>576998428
It intentionally doesn't make assists interact with supers to prevent one shots but picking up the assist in a regular combo does crazy damage.
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>>576998216
not into metal/rock/alt?
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>>576998428
the low downside to them getting hit is the big issue, they should apply a much harsher punishment if you're too careless with assists.
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>>576998274
that's not how that worked. lots of specials into vanish would leave you minus still. it was mostly beams and other high blockstun moves that allowed you to vanish into + frames. you also have to note that even if someone did that, they don't have guaranteed offense on you and RPS can come into play with you reflecting or using a frame 1 invuln or something else to get out when they try to mash on those + frames. and also vanish costed 1 meter + started meter gain penality

tl;dr it wasn't a guaranteed way to completely skip neutral and start offense. way easier in tokon to "skip neutral" by calling a 0 cooldown beam assist that has 500 frames of hitstun
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>>576998237
Strive had the 4k bug that made it run kinda bad on great rigs and the stage specific lag issues for the people on the lower end closer to requirements
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>>576998690
That you think any of tokon's soundtrack is metal really, really triggers the elitist metalhead in me
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>>576998757
Potato mod users simply didn't meet min reqs and I wish tokon had an issue that was fixable by playing at any other resolution that 4k
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>>576997985
Sato's and Daisuke's tracks are good, the rest of them kind of suck.
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>>576998732
>. it was mostly beams and other high blockstun moves that allowed you to vanish into + frames
aka the characters everyone played
> they don't have guaranteed offense on you and RPS can come into play with you reflecting or using a frame 1 invuln
and in this game you have a 1 frame counter to high/low/throw with assemble backdash as well as the ability to slap people with crossovers if they're spamming all their assists at fullscreen as they'll have nobody to counter you
>vanish costed 1 meter
in a game where you get meter by walking forward and can hold up to 7 stocks
> way easier in tokon to "skip neutral" by calling a 0 cooldown beam assist that has 500 frames of hitstun
literally just jump dude, you have a fully ignore projectiles superdash in the air in tokon btw
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>>576998106
yes, this is why tag games are trash
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>>576998615
If you are someone that just mashes out every single assist at once on cooldown you should get deleted by a reaction super.
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>>576998862
i forgot metalheads still are tropped in the no true scottsman cycle lol
>>576998940
>Sato's and Daisuke's tracks are good
which tracks were those? yea there are definately peaks and valleys, the peni theme track was a choice...
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>>576999246
Daisuke did Iron Man's and The Champion's. Sato did most of the rest of them but he didn't do Spiderman, Star Lord, Black Panther, Blade, Loki or Deadpool. I don't think he did the stage themes either.
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>>576998946
>aka the characters everyone played
disingenuous. a lot of historical top tiers didn't have ways to lock you down fullscreen with special>vanish. bardock, vegito blue, pretty much all of the vegetas
>as well as the ability to slap people with crossovers if they're spamming all their assists at fullscreen as they'll have nobody to counter you
you're not going to be using crossover fullscreen blocking assists lol. people are already consistently perfect countering it on reaction in strings, let alone from fullscreen
>in a game where you get meter by walking forward and can hold up to 7 stocks
i see you ignored the part about meter penalty conveniently
>literally just jump dude, you have a fully ignore projectiles superdash in the air in tokon btw
you completely missed the point
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>>576999246
I don't actually care about the OST being metal or not I just think a majority of the music is very bland and uninteresting. Iron Man's is the best by far and even that I think is very meh.
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>>576999362
>Spiderman, Star Lord, Black Panther, Blade, Loki or Deadpool.
...Yeah i can tell now, those were all on the weaker side. the spiderman track in particular was so blahh
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>>576999637
The Champion's theme is the best though've
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>>576999963
Eeeh. It's one of my least favorites. Garbage nu-metal sounding trash for 13 year olds.
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brown girl indoctrination psyop
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This is the actual best theme

https://youtu.be/2mJ6Ta43L6s
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>>577000575
Definitely in my top 3, solid pick anon. caught me off guard as it's not what you would expect for storm, but i like how up beat and melancholy it is
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>>577000575
>the violin meledy in the bridge section
Pure SOVL
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>>576998496
>search for #msmarvel on twitter
>only casuals doing the combo trials
>look for combos on youtube
>only videos made before release with a bunch of combos that don't even work anymore
>barely any setup video
it hurts
im trying to find a setup for her myself but damn there is not a lot to work with
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>>577001226
diaphone was playing her but he's dropping her
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>>577001778
not that anon but Ms. Marvel's the only character i really wanna play when i get the game so hearing how undervalued she is, is very disheartening.
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This game will have the only attractive Kamala in it, she's going back to ugly 3D face scan hell after this game
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>>577002349
shes probably gonna get buffed at some point, her and peni and maybe GG
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>>577002349
From what I've heard she is good, but basic. At least that is what Diaphone stated.
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>>576999368
> people are already consistently perfect countering it on reaction in strings, let alone from fullscreen
you literally cant crossover counter if you're assists are on cooldown, if someone does the meme of calling all 3 assists to lock down the screen you instantly get a free crossover they have to hold after blocking their projectile assist
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Are the character lessons janky for other people? There will be ones where I do the combo and it doesn't register as me doing it? I'll watch the replay and I'm doing the exact same thing as the example.
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>>577002786
nobody with a brain is going to be spamming all 3 assists from fullscreen in neutral beyond memes. a lot of back assists don't hit fullscreen and a majority of down assists are close-range/anti-air only.
everyone will have their projectile assist and at most maybe have another projectile-ish assist in back + assist so there will be no free fullscreen crossovers unless you're playing against a braindead moron
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>>577003163
The only time I ever had that happen to me is when I mistime an input and drop the combo or when I do something like a standing heavy instead of a crouching heavy on accident.
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>>577003163
I can recall a couple that were a little weird in some places, like one that wanted 2H jump jH and if I just hit 2H H to let the game handle the jump it wouldn't count it. Also just a whole lot of fucking up and getting jH instead of j6H and vice versa which is hard to spot in the moment.
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>>577000575
Do we have the .flac rips of the OST yet anyways?
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>>576967971
yeah, I fucked up not reading the training settings too thoroughly and figured ground recovery was the only setting, I was seeing a few things talking about this hard knockdown state so I guess a lot of people are making this mistake and you can roll off any knockdown.

I did find this though using the wall slump, streamable link cuz I cant be fucked to try and downgrade it for 4chan. https://streamable.com/tjsxuf
the 2U hits meaty (+30 on block) and beats all buttons besides assemble backdash, but because that activates on the trap itself the starlord overhead clashes with the counter attack and you get a free punish anyway (you can also just jump it) and if my combos weren't ass this definitely would've killed so while this is maybe not loki himself mixing you it's loki enabling some pretty degen oki that can 2 touch off a pretty common start of round 2/3 situation so maybe there's other stuff to do with this idea
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Music survey:
>Rate Tokon's ost from 1-10
>Did you play any other ASW games? If so, list them and rate their osts from 1-10 as well.
>What kind of music do you like?
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>>577000547
>the scarf is the real hero

Plastic Man?
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>>577003791
>Rate Tokon's ost from 1-10
There's some legit bangers that are also memorable with some few meh songs, it ain't +R or Uni when you take all the songs into account but it's a good 8/10
>Did you play any other ASW games? If so, list them and rate their osts from 1-10 as well
Yeah I ain't listing every single fucking game they've made
>What kind of music do you like?
Punk rock, ska, heavy metal a la Praying Mantis
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>>577003791
a strong 7/10. 16 of the 24 tracks i heard were great, the other 8 were forgetable
No
Nowadays i listen to anything except modern pop/rap
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https://ismarveltokonfixed.netlify.app/
it's over
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>>577003791
>rate tokon's ost
Tokon is a solid 5 maybe 6 at best for me. There are one or two tracks I like, but the bad ones are really bad.
>asw games
I've played pretty much every BB, GG, P4A, DBFZ, and GBVS. XX/+R is a 9/10 easily, Xrd is OK, BB I never cared that much for, GBVS has some great stuff but that's all Cygames afaik.
>what kind of music do you like?
Death metal, black metal, EDM, IDM, folk, classical, all kinds but I hate most rock music and nigger music
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Why does it take so long to find ranked games? I’m only plat 3 man this shouldn’t be this bad
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>>577004842
>EDM
This is Nigger Music. Wouldn't even it call it music, it's just electronic noise autism
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>>577005098
i need PlayStation to reveal that Tōkon has like 150k concurrent on their platform to put a stop to all this doom and gloom.
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>>577005098
game is dead
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Who do you think I am?
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>>577005330
Nah. Maybe if you're talking about dubstep or something yea, sure. I tend to prefer french disco, electro, etc.
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>>577001226
That's about the best thing I can conjure
I don't even know exacly how crossover protection works in this game so I don't even know if this works but I'm too tired to test more things for now
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>>577005832
Literally who and what do the last two even say
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>>577005832
>shuri not in s
>gobby that low
>blade in s
this jap is wetawded
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>>577004732
Can we get this added to the OP for each thread from now on until the game is fixed? Thanks.
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>>577005832
Looks reasonable
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*erases half your playerbase*
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Magneto's theme is giving me heavy Frank Klepacki vibes at times
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I can't seem to land the Jump Cancel
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>>577002745
>diaphone

Why are nufgcfags always referring to western fgc cucks?
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>>577007219
do you prefer to refer to eastern fgc cucks instead?
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I'm having fun. I don't know how long this game will be fun after the meta stabilizes, but it's fun right now.
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Im having fun so far just frickin around in training mode. Im 35 and Carnage is so fun. Probably wont try online for a bit though. Hulk is also a TON of fun, his screams make my wifes son scared but I hitted him and he stops. Its ok hes 22
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>>577007382
yes
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>>577007518
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>>577007632
Then name some japs that give a shit about this weeaboo game.
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>>577008236
Got anymore pixels?
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>>577008236
I've seen enough, hop on ranked
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>>577006641
thanos will save this game
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>>577008236
tfw
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I can't believe my eyes, anon was right. You "people" actually made a general for this noname still birth.
I am disgusted you think this "game" deserves a thread slot.
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>>577008678
Xhe's right guys.... who wants to play Persona 4 Arena?
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>>577008342
gobou
fenrich
kojikog
jiyuna
clayton
daigo
kusoru
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>>577007219
Because tag fighters are mainly played by westerners, tourist
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where's the fucking crack
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My dog tackled the shit out of my tv trying to play this
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>>577009039
>played by thugs*

ftfy
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>>577008947
SonicFox clears all of them high diff
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>>577009143
he tried to save you from playing bullshit
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>>577008867
Play what?
At least have some self respect and play strive while eating tiddy skittles.
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>>577009143
???
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>>577008678
im trans btw
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>>577008236
is this real
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>>577009527
Please don't use our xisters as a sort of insult. They are cute and respectable.
The tranners play real fighting games like Tekken and Sf and Strive.
They would never dare pilot spandexman(blue)
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>>577009527
explains why you made the thread. EnbyKO should have a new character to grab your attention soon.
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>>577009724
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>>577009796
i dont think the troonxko players are the ones playing tokon bro
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https://x.com/mixyousfgc/status/2086545870485418425/video/1?s=61
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>>577009843
How many Tokon general users are actually playing with these graphic settings
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>>577009843
>resolution: off
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>>577007632
聞いたところによると、彼女は優秀ですが、基本に忠実なタイプだそうです。少なくとも、タケシはそう言っていました。
better, retard?
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>>577008678
Don't sully the name of our queen Ingrid by gamewarring on someone's else general
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>>577010281
There can't be a gamewar if there is no game.
Don't be a baka, go back to the sissy fuccboi general. I know you seek refuge from that abomination if a game but at least it's a game and not superloser pozzed up nonsense code.
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>>577009843
>>577008236
>>577007518
mystery posts
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>>577010281
How come you were fine with all the gamewarring tokoniggers did for the past few months? Jewish ass nigga
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>>577009843
How the fuck is that short ass combo 41k? I have to do way more than that shit in all the combo trials just to break 35k.
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>>577010591
But anon, Tokon gonna kill all the fighting games! Don't u also wanna play (randomobjectname)man in a 4v4 tag?

I honest to god saw someone convinced that this shit would somehow steal all the sf6 addicted japs and put the game in the grave.
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>>577010434
back to /bant with you
>>577010591
I always assume that anyone shitposting on /sfg/ is a falseflagger crabba since I know they don't actually play fighting games
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>>577010976
So you are a fan of my bnat threads? Nice to meet ya, fren.
But I am not going anywhere. Whenever my containment in /tekgen/ breaches, I infect all the fighting game threads. I'm a disease and I'm terminal.
Ah, that reminds me. Play Tekkino8.
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>>577010930
I bet that guy would punch the air and cry if he saw this post and seeing how dog shit tokon is right now
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>>577005832
Damn, is Storm really that bad rn?
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>>577003707
https://streamable.com/8mewaf

I learned how to do magik combos so now this shit 2 touches. hope you can tell if starlord ducking like this is him going low or the start of his overhead because you gotta hold it
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>>577011574
last tier means he has not tested her yet, or just doesn't know where to put her
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god i wish you could disable autocombos. i have a tendency to mash during combos and it keeps fucking me up in this game lol
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>>577012029
hold back
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>>577011384
Considering he is a PC player, all he can do is punch the air cause his beloved game doesn't even work.
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>>577012095
Hehehe
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>every character gets different abilities of their U
>all 4 variations of Carnage are the same
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this game is really fun when it actually works
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>how dare that stupid fuck desire to play a video juego
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I feel like I need one character with an easy mix so people can't just downback. Is Hulk's overhead good enough for this purpose? I have Doom on my team too, but I haven't gotten around to labbing him yet.
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today i switched my team around a bit to try a new build
>switched ms. marvel from point to vertical assist
>switched magneto from vertical assist to point
>added captain america in projectile, replacing doom
>kept iron man on assault
i think i like this line up better, i can tag to ms.marvel if i think the matchup feels bad / i face a doom
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wish i could play the game i paid 60 dollars for
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>>577018205
Hush, put the cagie back on, cûckie. Sony needs ur dosh so buy the deluxe upgrade while u can't play.
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im pooing
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>>577018906
*i'm tokoning
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>>577010930
tokon niggers deserve worse
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You did beat survival mode already right?
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>>577020304
too busy labbing for 2 hours then missing everything on ranked then back to the lab
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>>577020304
They should add superman
>>>reddit
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>>577020304
is there a picture of the colors you can unlock in this game
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>>577020971
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>>577018081
>carnage that high
i don't see it, you can just press 2H in neutral and catch his "fireballs"
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>>577022659
people really have no clue yet who is good or who's not. every list i see is wildly different.
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How's the game? Im considering buying it on ps5 and getting ps online if its good and seems to have a long life.
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>>577023549
it is fun as all fuck
but has a ton of issues right now, really hard to recommend it. hopefully they fix it soon.
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>>577023549
Game is fun but the reputation this game has is probably going to kill it
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>still no patch
refunding
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>>577024047
based
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Magik's 100 meter super is so fucking retarded. Just the actual super itself does more damage than other 100 meter supers but it's also a cancel that powers you up until you do the super?
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>>577024047
they have to fix all the current bugs and fix the matchmaking and fix the lag and get past sony inspection that takes like 3 days
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>>577024047
Leave a negative review too.
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