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Superior Timezone Edition

Previous subpar timezone: >>576995118

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-Summer Newsletter 2026 & 7b Page
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/summer26/
>https://deltarune.com/7b/

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
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>https://deltarune.com

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noooooo I was making a new oneeee
thanks for using my drawing tho
I was gonna call it DownUnderTale too fuck
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goatless, woe be upon me
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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>>577033748
>pic
LOL, but great drawing!
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>577033813
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>42 computers are going to detonate in 2 hours
lol fucking got 'em!
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https://genius.com/Red-hot-chili-peppers-by-the-way-lyrics
https://genius.com/Red-hot-chili-peppers-otherside-lyrics
Do you think these songs inspired the Song of the Sea questline and the chapter 5 weird route scene. These songs are both by Red hot chili peppers, the band referenced by Onionsan, so maybe Toby listened to songs from them and got inspired to make the lake plotline.

Red Hot Chili Peppers theory? Are there more songs from them that relate to Deltarune?
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>>577033920
still one of my fav requests ive done
you guys need to request cool things more often
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>>577033945
Losing 42 doefags at once could only improve the quality of these threads
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ralsei butt
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>>577034040
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Rudyknight is anti-fanfiction
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Rudyknight is anti-art
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Rudyknight is one-third correct
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Dess Knight is boring and highly predictable.

People deny it, but Toby Fox doesnt like being predictable
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>>577033667
Hoo...
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>>577034005
Great work anon, nice!
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>>577034234
MUNGUS
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Noelle is the Knight
Noelle is ERAM
Noelle is Gaster
Everything in the game is about Noelle because Toby is in love with his own creation
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>>577034198
Asrielknight is even more predictable
It's so predictable that most people don't even consider it anymore
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>>577034198
>Dess Knight is boring and highly predictable.
Only if you're an autist who's really tapped into the game. I've watched maybe over a hundred playthroughs of Chapter 3 and the only people who mention Dess are the people already keyed in. Normies don't know what the fuck is going on.
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pluey is a girl?
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Remember to give your flowers plenty of rest!
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>>577034376
Pluey is my beautiful girlfriend with lots of boobs
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>>577034376
Pluey is called he in the game
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If Asgore was a jewelier instead of a florist
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What if Frisk but an adult woman with large breasts?
Maybe she's in relationship with Sans.
Like skeletons like milk and women who play Undertale tend to love Sans most.
If we do this then Undertale will become very popular. What do you think Toby I'm asleep
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Rudy would never hurt Kris and Susie, I don’t buy it for that reason
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>>577034671
oh fuck he real
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>>577034549
Jewellery...
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>>577034005
splendid art
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>>577034696
Carol might though
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Jewelrona!
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>>577034234
...man!
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>>577034796
yeah carol is more likely but also too obvious
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>>577034797
Diamonds, last longer than diamonds!
Wait...
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>>577034796
>>577034858
She’s just mean, not violent
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DessKnight is the narrative equivalent of CharaFlowey.
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>>577034652
>What if Frisk but [canon Frisk]
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I made the terrible mistake of going out under the sun for a minute...
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>8/9
>ha (eight) ku (nine)
>hagu no hi (hug day)
I wonder why Japanese is so conducive to wordplay
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DessKnight is the narrative equivalent of Night at the Museum
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DessKnight is the narrative equivalent of FUCKING STEAMING DOGSHIT
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>>577035176
I can only remember the yaoi from that movie so I assume you're calling Dess a fujoshi
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Aside from Pink, I think Clover from Chapter 5 is a foreshadowing. Dating Clover is like dating three people => Dating Kris is like dating two people. Our romantic prospects are blooming!
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>>577035408
well SOMEONE in that family needs to be straight and carry on rudy’s dynasty
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>>577035368
>pink out of nowhere
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>>577034198
If you play chapters 1-7 over the course of a week it's probably not.
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>>577035459
Cap'n isn't dating Clover's lesbian head
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>>577035585
This is a foreshadowing that you need to date all or none. Half-measures are doomed to fall apart.
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>>577034858
>>577034906
I don't think Carol actually will. I just think out of all of the adult characters Carol is pretty much the only one I could imagine in a scenario where she actually fights with the Fun Gang.
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>Noelle
Iceshock
>Ralsei
Fireshock
>Catti
Shockshock?
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>>577035565
this
dessknight is in the absolute perfect sweet spot for a theory in that a blind player could definitely fit it together themselves, but most people will not be able to - although in retrospect they could see that all the setup was there
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>>577035671
Cat is itself an element. Nekoshock.
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If Toby is japanese based developer why can't I build an harem?
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>>577035671
Thundershock
Did you ever play Pokemon?
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>>577035459
Clover is foreshadowing that Dess is bi.
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>>577035671
>my buff shirtless vessel
You wa Shock!
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>>577035671
>Berdly
diapshock
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growing up is listening to who might you be and only hearing flower man instead of sneakers o'toole
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>>577035671
Shockshock is the defibrillator used after Catti has her first heart attack.
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>>577035671
diabetic shock
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>>577035648
I think that storyline will probably end with Cap'n dumping Clover to return to his bros while Clover becomes the third in Elnina and Lanino's relationship since the lesbian head can date Elnina and the other two can date Lanino. Starwalker dies to become Ghost of Starwalker. It's unclear how this relates to Kris and the player.
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finished chapter 5, was mid ngl, i just cant appreciate it as much as other chapters, reminds me of the bummed out feeling i had when i played chapter 1 as an undertale spergkid who watched etika
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What the fuck is Kris' endgame
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>>577035869
etika would've loved ch5 he would be all about catgirl pussy and aqua cunny
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hid that post
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>>577035727
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new utg rule: no talking about etika, it makes me sad
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>>577035869
This is what Catti would look like without fur.
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etika would have listened to the chorus of flower man and start head banging super hard
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new utg rule: talk about Erika Umineko and pretend that she showed up without warning in chapter 5
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Does anyone else here see no point in romantic relationships because porn already satisfies your libido?
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>>577035958
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>>577036073
which fave asked this
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Deltarune and Undertale has no good porn
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>>577036071
*an intellectual rapist appears
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>>577035958
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sometimes i get kind of upset that most people wrote off chapter 5 when it's the best thing toby has made yet but then i remember that basically everyone who talks about this game online is a child with no life experience
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>>577036118
>veiled request for deltarune / undertale porn
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>>577036163
this post is needlessly inflammatory but I agree that Chapter 5 is the greatest. when I first came back to /utg/ after finishing my first playthrough I was shocked that so many people didn't immediately, intuitively love it the way I did.
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You don’t want relationships because porn is enough
I don’t want relationships because I’m scared of heartbreak
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>>577036118
https://e621.net/posts/3057489
I know it's bait btw
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I MISS FLOWERY *cries*
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What if ERAM is Ralsei?
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>>577036250
i know i just kinda feel bad for toby because he clearly genuinely poured out his heart into this one and most people are just talking about it like it's filler .... grrr!
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>>577036304
It's a good thing he's NOT DEAD and COMING BACK in CHAPTER 7
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ten feet twenty the ten feet man
is waiting for ten feet twent of his man
twenty ing feet out without a ten
like the every daily

feet that bother the ten feet man
could I do something just to make him ten
from my little twenty made of feet
so he lived the--
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>>577035872
Death
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Good morning /utg/ I hope you are doing well. I'm grateful I can wake up slowly without much pressure.

I bet Kris unironically appreciates Alphys letting them sleep through class with no push back.
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>>577036151
>>577036112
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>>577035941
yeah, i keep imagining him playing this, etika and deltarune are connected to me subconciously, both feel like i'm interacting with a dusty corner of my mind i can't reach anymore, and deltarune chapter 2 and 4 once sent me on a mini mental breakdown, i don't know why or if anyone relates.
pic related me trying not to tear up from memories about a black man i never met while playing lesbian pixel furry game
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>>577036424
Funny you say this I'm about to go to bed
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filler is good if you have an attention span longer than a tiktok clip
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>>577036071
But she did, she was a major part of ch5
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>Dess smacked Kris so hard to the point where they cried to stop or lied about what they did/didn't
Why is the Holiday family sociopaths
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>>577036326
ERAM is definitely similar to Ralsei but I don't think he's literally Ralsei
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*pauses abruptly*
*inhales sharply*
SAAAAAANS!?!?!?!
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>>577036073
If anything, I'm tired of porn and want a romantic relationship for all the reasons that don't directly have to do with sex, the sex would just be a nice bonus.
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>>577036304
Try timing your hits better
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People should make more monstersonas
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I'm scared of romantic relationships because I know I wouldn't be able to deliver romantically or sexually. So, I stay in my little hole.
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>>577036163
I have played like hundreds of indie game.
Undertale is good because it made me cry.
Deltarune normal route has yet to do *anything* interesting, and gimmicks dont count.
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>>577036251
i want to love and be loved more than i'm afraid of heartbreak. and i say that being right in the middle of heartbreak as we speak
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do people ACTUALLY believe Flowery is done for?
really? didn't you listen to the song?

>"even if broken I am more then glass"
>"heart on the sand"
>"so he lived"

He is a plant. His heart is the roots in the soil not the stem or his petals
also the knight broke the glass chamber but he is not defined by the thing keeping him safe
even if in pieces Flowery is Flowery and those dreams that kept him going don't disappear
he lived.
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>>577036424
Morning
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>>577036528
turns out the holidays are the real villains
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>>577036528
Genuinely what the fuck did Tobias mean with this line?
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>>577036529
He's basically Ralsei's evil twin cousin
>Fireballs
>Dreemurr mouth
>Caped
>Hidden in the deepest of draks
The big difference is that Ralsei believes Kris to be good and heroic deep down and passively lets them to do whatever they want while ERAM believes Kris to be The Jonkster and actively tries to get them to become The Jockler
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don't reply to posts by people who hate the game it'll just make you angry
hide
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>>577036629
forgot to read gerson’s letter award
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>>577036683
I think this
>>577036674
Scary if true
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>>577036719
waow the stupid lizard cant writw senteces
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> waow the stupid lizard cant writw senteces
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>>577036708
blocked
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>>577036840
............................
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>>577036840
lel
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>>577036697
I like the idea that ERAM is Kris's headband, which was lost on THAT DAY in the Shelter. Now it's just saturated with darkness for years and years after being lost.
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>>577036528
>>577036683
I think people read too much into that line when what it's trying to communicate is that Kris used to dissuade Noelle from trying to find Dess.
Now that we're controlling them, Kris is no longer Kris, we encourage Noelle to do the terrible thing Kris was always trying to stop her from doing. Noelle is basically mocking the real Kris that they can't do anything to stop her from going out of bounds.
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>>577036863
hiding this btw
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>>577036840
Sjelter
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Furiously googling "can you revive cut flowers"
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>>577036968
yes
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>>577036662
i dont get how y'all dudes get attached or care about these characters, i hope the next chapter actually progresses the plot and story and doesnt try to build up any more hollow characters, flowery is very hollow and i hate that the game wouldn't let me just kill him off. was not a fan of chapter 5
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>>577036923
reported to the authorities, enjoy your life in prison.
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>all of these posts
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I was talking about this this morning
I'm playing ch3 rn and when I got to the part in the secret mantle game where ERAM says we'll meet soon or whatever and kris complains to Ramb that he felt there was someone else playing the game
Ralsei comes along minutes later telling kris he got caught up playing an RPG
there was also that whole bit of him talking about how good it feels to be player one if you allow him to play kris' character... idk I feel it's obvious in a way....
mnaaaan I would've had so much fun talking about this back when it released..........
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I CAN HIDE ANYTHING
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Why did you hide me anon, I just wanted to be a post... this crystal I... I'M GOING INSAAAAAANE
>freedum moteef starts playin
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closing my eyes so I don't have to see
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sometimes i get kind of upset that most people wrote off carol when she’s the best fuzzy cwitter toby has made yet but then i remember that basically everyone who talks about this game online is a child with no life experience
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real humans (no flowers allowed)
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>>577037137
where’s orange
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>>577036968
Kris' doing this in the middle of the night
Their eyes shoot open and they sit bolt upright in bed before they immediately start googling this question and realize they are fucked tomorrow
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>>577036250
>Chapter 5 is the greatest
Chapter 5 was pretty hype (except for irony-poisoning), but...
That bait-and-switch at the end was shit. I would've been a perfect ending if after saying
>How much longer are they gonna keep taking more people?
>And how much longer... are those people gonna be safe?
>People are in... actual danger.
>Your dad, is in actual danger.
>We can't mess up anymore.
>We have to tell
she said that Dark Worlds no longer should be a secret. End the masquerade. Prepare people for the actual danger. Create a militia to look out for the Knight. Do drills on what to do when you're trapped in Dark Worlds.
...Instead she just wants to hang-out with her new shiny girlfriend. Not a good look, she avoided telling anyone before because she wanted to hang out with her new shiny friend, and she still learned nothing since then. After that, Chapter 5 felt... empty. All the hype was deflated like a sad clown's balloon.
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are krisfags skoliosexual?
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the Flowers are the only sexy humans in the game because they're not fat 8 to 16 year old children
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>>577037125
>fuck off from my house you dirty, poor, illiterate dino
>as YOU know Kris, you are welcum here anytime
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>>577037260
Skoliowhat
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>>577037013
>i dont get how y'all dudes get attached or care about these characters
Simple! I think their reasoning is both charming tragic and sweet.
They also bring in the whole moral thing about closing fountains and basically ending worlds for the sake of your own
in the end they knew they weren't gonna make it but still fought all the same because they just wanted to live and repay Asgore's kindness back
and the thing that gets me is that they were worrying about a debt that didn't exist
Flowery felt they were useless just because they couldn't fix all of Asgore's problems and care for him the way he cared for them but he fails to realise that just by being there and living he and the others gave Asgore meaning and pride all the same!
It's a little sad that you can't seem to get that but it's alright I suppose the festival part of the chapter wore you down and made you play the rest of it already thinking you disliked it
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>>577037291
"Human" is a very relative concept
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>>577037260
I'm bisexual
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If you think about it pretty much all of the popular deltateen ships have incestuous undertones and there's no way to discuss them in depth without mentioning that aspect inb4 toby who didn't think about that
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I think about this a lot. Goodnight.
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>>577037312
this thing i just discovered, no wonder they defend his pronouns so badly
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>>577037424
the eye omega flowey hydperdeath asriel moonster guy is HOT
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>>577036662
He had a great send off and it would be wrong to reverse that.
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>>577037460
we call this being a chaser round these parts
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This early part of Earthbound is kind of a pain but I'll power through. I feel like once I actually have more characters it'll be less tedious
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>>577037385
might as well just go full incest
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You know what I'm craving? Fried rice
I wish I was in a 100% confirmed timepoop like Kris so I could tell myself to cook rice yesterday so I would have it ready today
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>>577037460
If you can use "they" for me you can use "they" for Kris
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>>577037460
Kek, I legit thought this had to with scoliosis
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>>577037424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmm13Iu3DIM
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>>577037298
yep. i clapped.
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>>577037424
I do hope we get some sort of Dess Darkner/Dustner, so many cool possibilities there
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>>577037013
The flowers' motivation to repay all the love they were given as "mere" flowers even if it means their own demise is beautiful and a reflection of the game's core ethos
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"Ralsei exists to serve and appease the player" is such a bland and lame reading of his character please Toby don't write this. I don't want Asriel II monologuing shit to me about the nature of playing videogames again undermining his connection to the actual world
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>>577037460
I HAVE A FLAG?
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>>577037460
>flag looks like flowery
...
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>>577037460
We called this a chaser back in my day
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>>577037320
you made a good point, honestly I COULD appreciate flowery if i tried, or if the current characterbase was smaller and shit, and i kinda LIKED/RESPECTED flowery more by the end of the game, but to be honest i am projecting my upset at toby for neglecting and not working with the characters he already has created, and keeps throwing a bunch of hollow slop characters one on top of another, maybe other people like it but i just feel completely uninterested, its just overwhelming and tiresome at this point but maybe im acting like an old man, i just want to see some drama amongst the niggas we've already got, OR AT THE VERY LEAST make some characters that MATTER in the lore, and i saw anything but that, even asgore was hollow as fuck in this chapter, vibe ruined, but anyway yeah thats my yap/vent. i hate toby even more for removing me the option to kill them all just for the pleasure of it, if i atleast got THAT i'd feel redeemed but I guess deltarune's plot is not designed to endure that.
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hey guys!
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>>577037675
The "actual world" is inseparable from its nature as a game
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Don't call them chasers, bro
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>>577037675
"I was created to serve you... but now that I'm free, I'm CHOOSING to serve you!"
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>>577037808
truth nuke, people are acting like the flowers are the second coming just due to their epic feels moments but within the context of the entire game it’s just fucking tiresome
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>>577037808
This post isn't temfag but was made by someone approximately as retarded.
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>"slop"
>"the lore"
Just hide these posts guys
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>>577037675
I mean, his entire arc is about breaking out of that, plus I doubt Deltarune is gonna retread Undertale's message, since it seems more about using meta stuff to push the story forward instead of being a parable. That's one of the things I like about DR compared to UT - it's not nearly as preachy.
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Speaking of sexual attraction to Kris, I'm looking forward to the Kressel impregnation arc which has been extensively foreshadowed
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>>577037460
scoliosis....?
>>577037505
I wouldn't call it reversing it
we have nothing but hope.
the chapter ends with susie taping him and saying it's gonna be all right
>oh but only asgore can take of these flowers
it doesn't matter.
if the point was for flowery to stay dead he wouldn't have been tapped back together or sang a song about how hopes and dreams doesn't die and the cut flower from ch3 wouldn't be a thing.
It's kind of like Tenna
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>>577037013
The same is true for ever single character in Deltarune, if we view it through the lens of Tobyverse. No one matters because we'll never see them again after we finish the game. The only character that matters is Sans, because we'll likely see him again. <<<This sort of logic.
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>>577037895
Personally, I liked the flowers more for the comedy and overall charm, the whole "dream" schtick definitely came second to that.
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if you didn't like the flowers you failed the test and don't understand the point of the game, you will not be reaching gnosis. sorry!
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>>577037460
Hey oldbuddy!
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Ugh, enough of this reference-laden filler MettaSLOP. Let me fight ASGORE already
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>>577037089
A neat head canon. We could call it some portmanteau of Eram and Ralsei like Esei ro Ralram. I know alot of people in this thread that wanna ram Ralsei.
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>>577038143
I liked their comedy moments too, but the game is funny overall so being funny alone isn't enough to be a lovable character. Mr. Cattenheimer is funny, but he couldn't carry a chapter.
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>>577038263
You don't have enough RAM to download E-sei
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>y-you just don’t like flowers because they develop characters instead of the plot!!!!
they didn’t do a good job of that either pal
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BOOM, hid that
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rimming ralsei...
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>>577038378
https://static1.e621.net/data/c4/0b/c40be542c4bd70a78b476daee253412e.png
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"If dislike or iffy about even 0.01% of the game you're a hater. Hater! HATER! Report those posts!" - what cause people to adopt this mentality?
I know that /utg/ rots people's brains, but I didn't know that it got the point where people can't understand nuance. Let's test this:
How old are you?
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>>577038353
The only 'point' of the flowers is that they exist, and we as players can enjoy spending time with them before they have to wither away and we have to move on. Like everything else in this game, because you're experiencing a story that is going to end
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hid that one too
I just love to win what can I say
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>>577038313
It did kinda feel like Ch5 was a little lacking in terms of heavy-hitting characters. Doesn't help that this fact means all of the focus has to be shifted to Flowery - if he had some other strong personality supporting him as an antagonist, I could probably like him more.
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>>577037808
You know the way I go about it is given each chapter's widely different themes and characters and stuff is to just treat each of them as their own little individual game with it's own little story to tell
sure they're all following a bigger picture but are their own little image on their own
CH1 was about a bully learning to be nicer and giving things a chance
CH2 was about a shy girl trying to be more confident because she is strong even if she doesn't know it
CH3 was about someone that felt abandoned and used toxic positivity and nostalgia to distract himself and everyone from the issue
and so on
I do think adding 8 characters at the same time was a bold move but 6 of them are very simple... Flowery was the one with most complexity and things to say
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>>577038469
Lay off the cake Raly...
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I just noticed something. When you get hit here, it seems like it gives you points? Is that what happens?
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>>577038794
That's damage, not points
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>>577038794
*starts violently banging my head against my desk*
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>>577038794
Hidden points theory, you're late anon
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>>577038679
Now that's a new one
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>>577038820
Oh, I'm stupid then
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I find it funny how you're initially meant to think the flowers were becoming an escapism outlet for Asgore but in reality Asgore was too far deep into conspiracy theories and he ignored the flowers the moment they became a bother to him like his real family
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so when carol inevitably kills herself in weird route where will she do it
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If you don't like Sweet Cap'n Cakes you don't understand deltarune.
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>>577038972
Asgore was too busy debunking Dess Knight
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I just think the flowers are neat...
they have one day at best to be what they dream being and they just choose to live it out! it's beautiful!
they were made for a wedding and were meant to last one single day but Asgore's love kept them going for actual decades
thanks to him they "lived" long enough to have dreams of their own but they couldn't do anything because they were just flowers but when the dark world happens they're gifted one single day to thank Asgore and live their dreams
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>>577038972
I could tell Asgore didn't give two shits or a fuck before the flowers were even done being introduced. He's awkwardly acting like a hostage until he reveals he's barely playing along.
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>>577039062
im sure rudy and/or carol backroomsed their own daughter anon
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>>577038972
Asgore owning a personal Dark World and using flowers as a surveillance network across town was a neat theory, but I guess it would be out-of-character for him. (Also if he had a Dark World, he wouldn't have been declared insane by other people)
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>>577039020
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>>577037381
>black underwear
Truly, the best thing a woman can do is to end up in black underwear. Any other color just doesn't cut it.
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>>577039149
They grounded her and she had no choice but to glitch out of the world
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So Flowery can make an exit for Asgore at any point. So Asgore can take those notes and exit Dark World to read them in the Light World. Why didn't he do so? Is he stupid? Head too clouded by conspiracies?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=870j0RZhRD4

and you have to be alone -- in hell, forever. that’s just the way it is.
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I think Asgore not caring adds another layer to their tragedy but it's kinda bittersweet
the flowers think they owe him but the reality is that they don't and they don't need human bodies or a dark world because those things aren't gonna fix Asgore
them just being simple flowers was enough to make his gloomy life a little happier
but it's just sad one way or another
at least they still got to live life a little
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both ralsei and berdly would enjoy spending time on wikipedia
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>>577039185
it’s a phislsipopical question you wouldn’t get it
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i think the ch5 aborted wr is the best route for kris's mental state so i will be doing that and still managing to keep a thorn ring for the twisted sword
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>>577039309
i think those notes would just become something else in the light world or simply not exist in there
sorta like susie's ribbon or ig the manual ralsei makes us
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I wish a fish
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>>577039357
Ralsei would casually absorb all of Wikipedia in his spare time
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do you guys use a mod to increase the number of save slots or do you delete old saves when you watch to replay the chapters again?
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>>577039516
i dont save
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>>577039452
Flowery is meta-aware, he can find the "original" notes. Though I suppose taking out too many would collapse the Castle, so Flowery won't cooperate.
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>>577039516
Manual backup and copy-paste
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thanks for listening to me talk about the flowers by the way
I get that you guys like to fight and feel there is a endless need to one up each other with "gotchas" and "actuallys" but I just have fun rambling my thoughts out!
you guys are fun lol
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>>577039621
that inner thigh detail is crazy
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Is freedom motif in pink's song?
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>>577039516
I don't really mod Deltarune but I'm kinda curious now...

Are there any mods that enhance the DR or are they all just convience and ease?

I made picrel last month and wonder if a project to change the "combat start" animation for Kris would be feasible.
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lake scene and most of wr is metaphor for losing one's virginity and teen pregnancy btw
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>>577039806
yes
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>>577039331
"What's it "like"? Good. And bad. An ache that brings you joy." He smiles warmly.
"I think of them a lot. I dream up these silly scenarios, in great detail.
Of living with them... it comforts me."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNwd56ZhoPI
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Would Flowery have been as aggressive flirty towards Asgore if Asgore told him he wasn't interested from the getgo?
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>>577039806
*resumes violently banging my head against my desk*
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>>577039806
It's a little altered, but it's there
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sigma moves to assert dominance
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>>577038469
Need
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>>577039806
yes.
here you go https://voca.ro/1mUBjLslznpg
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>>577039826
why do you look at it that way anon
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>>577040024
it's fun.
it's the reason creepypasta of friendly media is so popular... we just at some point decided it's cool to twist things to have darker and/or realistic upsetting meanings
it's not a good thing or a bad thing it's just a thing
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Just saw a tweet on my feed that said
>toby likes to make a game of how many times he can say the same thing using different words
and I immediately thought of Ryukishi07's visual novels
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>>577039895
He'd keep a smile but would probably be really depressed on the inside and Ralsei would have to help him out instead of the other way around
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fave wishes they had someone to teach them how to drive so they didnt have to pay 900+ for driving lessons
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>>577039865
really nice video... i still didn't realize the whirling in rags theme had a full song version too. i thought it was just the extended stuff on the OST. thanks for posting
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>>577039826
What ifff kriss was demon possessed in wr and made tot rapw noeelle in her bedroom and get her a new soul (prefagnant) ane in chapter 5 werrrid route she is rape kris back and drown in lake to abort baby????
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>>577040165
It's fun if you actually put any thought into it or have any sort of reasoning.
I personally think Toby is too much of a chronic permavirgin to just write a story about teen pregnancy, let alone a compelling one.
The teens I knew who got pregnant in school were not particularly interesting people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQxDM2K-hd0
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>>577034696
Asgore killed 6 human children can you imsgine the face he was making while he did it
Rudy is the not fucking knight but please stop hating it for stupid fucking reasons
Anybody could be the knight on a moral level because Toby Fox thinks it's possible to come back from hurting/killing kids
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>>577040245
Fave finished driving school over 10 years ago only to realize fave's town has probably the highest amount of cars in the country and is permanently paralyzed with traffic jams
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>>577040334
not literally silly it's allegorical!
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>>577039149
Kris did it on accident swinging back after getting bonked by Dess too hard.
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>>577040245
it's like riding a bike, mostly a muscle memory thing
you keep your eyes on the road, scanning
you put a certain amount of pressure on the pedals to accelerate or decelerate
you turn the wheel in certain amounts at different speeds to safely turn
just take your time to get a feel for it even if you need to shell out cash
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>>577036610
I would be a robot
An actual robot not just a ghost in a robotic body like Mettaton
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>>577040245
anon bad news, you still need driving lessons to be allowed to enter the driving exam

Also say who your favorite character is you motherfucking blogwriter
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>>577040207
>Just saw a tweet
Go back.
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>>577037137
Missing the rest of my HEROES
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>>577040246
I love it when bands work with fan artists to make something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Q-IgHnuWs
And they just did one for Sad FM too, my mind was blown when I first realized this was the song Tommy is quietly singing to himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NYQKCGCfRw
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>Anons are against the idea of kris and noelle giving up of their boring lives and going for a skinny dip followed by sex before running away to start a new family
God when did we get so gay?
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every time i play this game it just makes me slightly psychotic, reminds me of the childhood i've lost and the opportunities i never used or will be able to take advantage of, the fear that stopped me from being who i wanted to be, desires which i've given up on or never fully embraced, the fact that i never even had a complete fair chance to live these things out either, anyway, enough shitting up this thread, ill return to my containment boards /x/ /g/ and /lit/
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>when Kris pulls his pants down
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>>577040207
Not to tell you to go back, but why didn't you just respond to the tweet instead of making a post on a completely different website? You're weird.
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>>577040223
I think Flowery would have a Himmel-esque attitude where he loves Asgore unconditionally and just wants whatever's best for him. He'd be sad inside but he seemed supportive of Asgore having a family with Toriel until he thought they all left him.
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Would you?
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ready to play some deltarune
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BEATULS
BEATULS
IN DELLTAARUUUIN
CHAPTER 5
https://youtu.be/1ZORRmKwU5o
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>>577034326
This. The core of the theory like Kris and the Knight having identical animations is subtle and imperceptible unless you pull up the sprite sheets.
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>>577040616
I knew some "straight" dudes around 2018 when we all met post chapter 1 and were obsessed talking about it.

Without fail every single Ralsei fan in the group since has become, gay, nb, trans, or something else, I don't keep up to date on queer crap.

>God when did we get so gay?
The game was rigged from the start.
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>>577040831
NO KRIS NO GET OUTTA THERE
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>>577041024
does hating Ralsei make me honorary straight
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>>577040831
What some people want Kris's life to be like before Dess died
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>>577040946
The first thing you see the Knight do in battle is point and the first thing most players would do is check. How stupid do you think the average player is, legitimate not looking at the screen tier? 30 second memory?
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>>577040801
He'd definitely be supportive, but that would also take some wind out of his sails, considering how keeping Asgore was his top priority. There is a certain selfishness to Flowery in that regard that really humanizes him.
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>>577041024
Oh yeah anon, I totally believe that a bunch of straight guys all decided to play the most gay furry game ever made for fun and had no idea what they were getting into. That sounds completely reasonable.
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>>577041184
no one uses check
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>>577041226
Yeah because of Sans undertale.
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>>577041098
No because the only other person in that group that liked Susie more and didn't care for Ralsei, like me, was my bestie who then came out as trans two months into our friendship after being closeted.

I'm the only straight guy left. That gets to be my special thing you all have to stay gay.
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>>577041226
retard
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Flowery would do whatever makes Asgore happy because he feels it's the least he can do after the decades asgore spent takingcare of them despite their life sinking
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>>577040831
what game?
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Flowery shows that Asriel is never appearing, this is the closest you got
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>>577041226
possibly the hottest image of ralsei ever made
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>>577041296
Are you really telling me you think no one but turbo schizos remembers what the generic act animation you see several dozens of times per chapter looks like. Do you think most of the player base is doing a no spare run or something.
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>>577041024
yeah but how old were you guys
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nothing will ever feel like ut or dr again
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>>577041345
>I'm the only straight guy left
Tick tock...
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>>577041483
I genuinely dont think any casual players saw a connection between Kris pointing and The Knight pointing
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>>577041226
They were in highschool anon, I was in college. They all thought Ralsei was a girl at first and were in denial about finding a femboy cute. I check back with them in 2021's chapter 2 era to find they all accepted being gay and shit.

Deltarune is gonna be someone's first exposure to femboy, tomboys, and anything else. It's not that unusual.
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>>577041360
The thing about Flowery is, he does believe in making people happy, but he's also the type of guy who thinks he always knows best what makes you happy, unless you tell him directly, and even then he may not listen. His overconfidence is pretty much his main flaw.
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>>577041552
Well yeah, retro games are the Wii/Xbox 360 era now.
Pixel RPG turn based things are old and busted like galaga and pac-man now.
We are already balls deep in the "nostalgia for the 2010s" era of culture.
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>>577034198
>Dess Knight is boring and highly predictable.
It's the opposite: it doesn't make much sense when you think about it for a single second. You're obviously meant to think about Carol as your first suspect. Then "plot twist" happens, the Knight is not Carol, it's X! Dess never should even be near picture, because if she's running around, then motivation of the Knight gang is kinda moot: why try to save Dess when Dess is more than fine?
>But black goop
So what? In Undertale there was white goop, everyone was fine with that.
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>>577041416
degrees of lewdity
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>>577040609
man.. these are great too. i really like the second one. i already really love the sad FM track. i love it a lot.
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>>577041620
This is unironically a joke we used to share. I kinda miss those dorks.
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>>577041807
>You're obviously meant to think about Carol as your first suspect.
After Chapter 5 that's completely absurd.
We know Carol is helping Asgore because he wants to solve The Incident case and is investigating ihe shelter during the festival
Asgore outright says he wants to find the culprid and parade around town with their corpse because he hates the culprit that much, and the info there was a black shard in the crime scene means they think The Knight is this culprit from the past and that's what the game is directing you to think right now
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Woagh... Mass Effect... so retro...
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>>577041807
Yeah my thoughts were dess knight sounds cool at first but it doesn't actually make any ontological sense if we're taking known positions into account. Roaring GC is fine conceptually because they clearly don't actually want to cause the roaring, since it's really easy to do. If it's evil dess or whatever actually trying then it does become really stupid
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>>577042317
I'm still disappointed they made Tali into a human girl with a colored filter
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Mewmew’s cum leaking and tuna reeking butthole~
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>>577042432
I only fucked the dudes lmao
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>>577042501
Thane was kinda cute
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ralsei the type to ask for uppies
susie the type to give uppies
need i say more?
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>>577042432
I played ME in highschool and was embarrassed to tell my friends I really liked the Tali romance.

Ahh... a young knight's first love...
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>>577042590
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>>577042317
Dead Rising is a 20 year old game now.
Playing Xbox 360 games is identical to playing Super Mario Bros. on a NES in 2005.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6CGL7TqDMg
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The flowers are a retardation test, depending on if you liked them or not
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>>577042547
good fucking taste mate
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>>577042452
Braapflt
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>>577042651
The best parts of ME were definitely the character relationships and telekinesing enemies into the abyss while they scream bloody murder
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>>577042590
this but replace ralsei with lancer
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>>577042681
It will NEVER be the same
The mid 2000s were not a wild west for the games industry like the 80s and (to a certain extent) 90s were
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>>577042687
What if I only liked some of them and didn't care for others? Can I be part-retard?

Half-retard. Half-dragon. All hero.
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>>577042687
I liked half
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>>577040831
I hate this game
There's like 2 paragraphs of text for every sexual encounter at a maximum and 90% of that is just about how the baby you're playing as is crying and their arms hurt
It's more fun as a sandbox where you rob people's houses. Unfappable
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>>577042837
Get with the times grandpa, GTA San Andreas is retro now and arguably, so is GTA V.
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>>577042590
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>>577043108
>games that came out when I was a kid
retro
>games that came out when you were a kid
non-retro corporate trash

you can't refute this
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>>577041807
>You're obviously meant to think about Carol as your first suspect
As a kneejerk reaction perhaps, the katanas and Carol's sheer aura apparently just making the room colder definitely would lead someone to assume that but it makes very little sense. First, in chapter 4 the knight is already at the church if you rush there instead of heading home first and there's no checks to make sure you go back to see if the doors locked. second, since we now know the knight leaves behind black shards at the dark fountains they make and Asgore found a black shard at both the library and the scene of the dark world from "that day" when Dess seemingly disappeared; meaning Asgore likely SAW the fountain be made by the knight BEFORE something actually happened to Dess. Lastly, it can't be Carol (or Dess) because why would Carol be involved in her own daughters disappearance and then support Asgore in finding the person that was involved in her daughters disappearance to the point that it became such a conflict that he had to step down as police chief? It makes NO sense for Carol or Dess to be the knight and none of the actual foreshadowing points to it, it's all running off vibes
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>>577043176
Wait, so you're arguing that 360 games are retro then? Going to need to see your AARP card if you're claiming to be 50 years old.
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>>577043343
yeah I'm 53 and drunk on a monday morning lmao what are you gonna do about it
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>>577043176
I picked this up late last year at a local electronics store. One day far too soon Undertale will be considered a retro game of the early indie PC game boom.
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>>577043384
I'm going to appreciate all the bones in my body that aren't brittle and all the joints and muscles that still bend correctly.
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>>577043326
>First, in chapter 4 the knight is already at the church if you rush there
Counterpoint: Susie takes 10 second to climb up the stairs in Dark Sanctuary, and 0.2 seconds to climb down the stairs. Kris had the time to go library, hospital, Holiday manor, have a heartfelt talk, slash tires, all within 20 seconds. This alone shows that this argument is retarded as fuck.
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>>577043530
what are you doing playing football? the fuck you need those for. drink cheap korean beer watch anime and play undertale. the fuck you need joints for
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>>577043562
There's no reason that Kris couldn't be doing those things between chapters 3 & 4.

Carol could also have gone to the church after Kris and Susie initially left.


These time arguments won't get us anywhere.
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>>577043108
GTA1-2: 2D era
GTA3-SA: 3D era
GTA IV-VI: HD era
GTA IV can't be "retro" if it's in the same "generation" as the newest game, lol. Anyway, Deltarune?
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looking back, chapter 1 oozes soul from every pore
chapter 5 just feels lifeless
i'm not the only one that senses that there is a compromised vision here, right?
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>They reached their hand into the sky... and MADE.

>It's you and that hochi mama. You've been MAKING haven't you?

>The knight which makes with blackened knife.
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>>577043843
Making love
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soul is when something looks like shit
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>>577043562
>This alone shows that this argument is retarded as fuck.
Ignoring that you have to accept game play time =/= in-universe time that doesn't change that for Carol to be the knight she would somehow have to sprint past the player or through the woods unseen in daytime for her to get there before a player that doesn't go back to the house. The knight is there already, there's no getting past that.
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Do you think
>That day
>Knight's identity
>Kris' promise
Can all be wrapped up in 1 (One) story thread?
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I dreamt about making a /utg/ post, this place has consumed me
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>>577043954
yes, it's all literally the same thing
the black shard at the scene of the crime, Kris's trauma
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>>577043954
>Knight's identity
>In Chapter 6
Keep dreaming.
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>>577043954
>do you think that [3 deeply related story topics] can be wrapped up together?
>t. retard
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>>577043492
i need this i need this i need this i need this i need this i need this i need this
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>>577043995
This fandom is both a prison and beautiful garden.
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>>577043813
HD era is 20 years old, GTA 6 is oudated before it even launches which is why they are probably trying to postpone that industry collapse when it doesn't make 3 billion dollars instantly for as long as possible because their formula is stale as fuck now.
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people talk about FNAF-brain here a lot but I think the real problem it's caused is that everyone expects the story to be something that has to be assembled from 20 distinct and largely unrelated plot threads and coded messages

like 90% of the game's "mysteries" could be resolved in one flashback
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>go on /vg/
>/utg/ first thread in the catalogue
damn what did i miss?
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>>577043843
It's about making babies, blackened knife refers to the Knight's cock.
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>>577043840
The gratuitous nostalgia baiting in 5 felt unearned
A lot of it felt like toby fishing for epic screenshot moments
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>>577043843
do you think determination governs the ability to make a dark fountain? that's what i've been thinking for a while.
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>>577044173
Knight is a nigger?!
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>>577044173
why is Dess' cock blackened and also a knife
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>>577044180
I think you might just be a cynic.
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>>577044171
You didn't miss anything, other games are just dead as fuck and unable to sustain a community now. I want to blame the brainless waifu fags throwing endless money at gachashit but I feel the problems run deeper than that.
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Post Chapter 1 era SOVL
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>>577035797
this is silly >>577033920
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>>577044191
That's exactly what Queen says in Chapter 2. It's not a mystery or theory, it's a fact.
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>>577044191
Yeah but specifically it's the ability to create, as in write and imagine.
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>doesn’t have utg set to always be at the top of the catalogue
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>>577044341
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>>577044164
>like 90% of the game's "mysteries" could be resolved in one flashback
That's because, unlike fnaf, this game and most stories have a narrative throughline and foreshadowing
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hello hello chat
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>>577044171
/utg/ is coming to terms with the fact that the game has been shit since chapter 3 and 4
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>>577044369
fuck i forgot about that i'm such a secondary tertiary quaternary tourist LOSER
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back in my day, ralsei was BLACK, there was only ONE secret boss, and we all thought kris was going to STAB everyone to DEATH
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>>577044361
I look like this while posting on /utg/
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>>577044423
gay
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>>577044341
Peak
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>yeah I think the shitty NOSTALGIA BAITING in chapter 5 was unearned, talk about cringe
>meanwhile on /utg/:
I fucking miss chapter 1 so much bros it just oozed soul it was so perfect remember how it felt bros remember how it felt when things were simple and anything was possible...
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>>577044502
many people are saying this!!
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Chapter 5 more like lackter drive to finish it!!!
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>>577044431
i'd say it was shit in ch2, but ch4 really saved it.
ch5 was everything i hated about ch2 squared and ch6 is going to be dramatic as shit.
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>>577044542
Goomba phallussy.
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>>577044513
what game are they even playing? lmao
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>>577044476
Have we ever tried "Ralsei is an actual goat" theory
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>>577044576
they would never do this! ralsei loves the way he looks and doesn't want to hide it, and kris would support that.
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>>577044614
explain
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>>577044616
Calvinball
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>>577044542
They will never admit the game fucked with them and that's what they're mad about. Pretending it's bad is how they cope with being shown they're stuck in the past and cucks, by a game that doesn't even think those are bad things to be
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>>577044294
>hey kris remember when we first met
>ah those sure were the days... four days ago
It made no sense for the characters to act like that. It was purely toby huffing his own farts
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>>577044669
Kris is largely indifferent to Ralsei
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>>577044789
>hey kris remember when we first met
>ah those sure were the days... four days ago

i dont remember that happening
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>>577044726
Add heminem.
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>>577044171
You missed the battle of the canon timezones last thread
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>>577044841
no... it's not true... their love will blossom! i believe it!!!
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>>577044789
That never happened.
The nostalgia was for Undertale, not in-universe nostalgia for a few days past. If that were the goal we'd have Lancer and everyone else in the DW
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>>577044841
Saying it a thousand times doesn't make it true, anon
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>>577044789
four days of literal fucking magical otherworldly adventures
you know how time feels like it moves more slowly for children because everything is new and they have a profound sort of density of experience
the same principle applies here times ten
it didn't feel out of place to me at all
"when we first met four days ago" was our magical adventure through a tabletop roleplaying kingdom where you helped me overcome my self-esteem issues that caused me to put up walls around myself and present as mean and scary to avoid pain, and you became my first actual real friend despite the fact that I said and did horrible things to you

like yeah dude if you had someone in your life like kris and a place in your life like the dark world you would be pretty emotional about it

now get back to your 9-to-5
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>>577044781
>>577044542
People miss when everything felt fresh and new and toby hadn't rehashed the same jokes a million times yet
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>>577044369
>That's exactly what Queen says in Chapter 2
Nta but the problem with that quote is that we don't know what queen means by "determination." "Determination" (DT) is soul-power as named by Alphys in Undertale and we don't know if that same name exists in Undertale. We don't know how new the books in the library are but I would say it's reasonable to assume that the stuff about not knowing how souls "work" is representative of the general understanding of them in this world. This would make queen referring to DT, term only recently coined by a scientist in Undertale, over the emotion really curious since she's just a computer and probably only has access to like Wikipedia and not government research information. DT and emotional determination are only ever conflated by Undyne in Undertale who almost certainly what Alphys meant when she explained the "determination" souls produce. I think she DOES mean DT but that only raises more questions about how and why she knows that specific term and who used it. If it's just emotional determination/"the will to create" that would be fine ig but it wouldn't feel satisfying that opening a portal to hell just needs you to be able to draw with crayons and not the fuel of your soul
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>>577044932
They're supposed to look like depictions of Baphomet anon. It's all in serive of the Asriel/Azrael God/Angel of Hyperdeath/Death
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>another middle aged boyfailure boss next chapter
Can Toby come up with something new
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>>577044983
>now get back to your 9-to-5
Pleaaaaase I don't waaaannnnaaaa
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>>577044897
The undertale references make it even worse because it shows how deltarune cannot stand on it's own or that toby doesn't even want to try anymore. And you cant ignore how it was full of chapter one references
>>577044983
Ok but did we really need to waste a whole chapter beating the audience over the head with that point?
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>>577044180
>The gratuitous nostalgia baiting
Idk if it's more or less sad that you're being serious
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a goat’s purpose is to serve
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>>577045251
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So Toby defined Deltarune as parellel story to Undertale, that means one of the theories could be this is an alternate timeline where the monsters won the war?
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>>577044940
ditto!
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>>577045186
The game fulfilling its thematic purpose as a meta commentary is not a weakness except in the mind of literal retards. You knew this game was going to fuck with you from chapter 1 and now you're mad because it did it with a girl that won't fuck you
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>>577045327
>shelter is where all the humans besides kris were sealed away after the war
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>>577045186
nothing was "wasted," the point of chapter 5 is to bookend, by symbolically returning to its beginning, the first arc of the story, the era of fun adventures with your friends before everything goes to hell in a handbasket and those bonds are likely changed forever, irreparably. it's also an extended meditation on what freedom means, especially in the face of the inevitability of fate/death and systems of social control where structures tell you who and what you are and have to be
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i love my boyfriend
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>>577045446
I prefer Bulbasaur
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i want to be carol baited
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>>577045450
>meta commentary
When are we getting some regular commentary?
Constantly poking fun and nodding at the 4th wall gets old and makes it look like Toby has zero confidence in his own ability to tell a story
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>>577045327
What would be the point of doing that though? It doesn't contribute anything to the story and just contradicts or makes things more complicated for no good reason other than "It could happen"
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<3
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Maybe Chapter 5 wouldn't have been filler if instead of the Flower King they went to the Gaster King
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dude mettaton ex was such filler get me to the king jesus christ toby
stop making me have fun
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>>577045771
Hey guys! It's me! Gastery! Your Sans My Best Friend
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>>577045505
Chapter 4 already served as a last fun adventure before everything falls apart. 5 feels like a slap in the face after the tonal shift the previous chapter established
I also think 5 just outright failed at being fun. None of the characters were memorable beside Flowery but that's only because everything he says was engineered to become a meme. The platforming was too basic and tacked on. The fights dragged on for way too long. All of the story beats felt like they were beating the audience over the head with stuff we already know
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Mettaton sEX
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>people are complaining about 5 again?
>quick start gasterstimmies threadshitting!
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What was the point of Frisk falling down into the mountain if they end up back on the surface anyway? Filler game.
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Okay, serious talk.
When is the Deltarune fixation gonna end? It's been here since Chapter 5 released. Chapter 4 fixation ended after 3 weeks
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If everyone stands still and stays quiet for a little bit longer he will get bored and probably leave.
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>>577045912
we've probably had this conversation before. I disagree completely on every point
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>>577046023
Chapter 5 wasn't the ending of Deltarune
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>>577046063
You mean you got bored after 3 weeks and left while the fandom bloomed
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>>577046031
>>577046271
wait maybe filler arcs are awesome?
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>>577046329
Ralsei politely dialing his cuteness back by 5% so that people stop feeling the uncontrollable urge to gush over him
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>>577046063
took me 2 years after chapter 2 and I haven't left after 3/4
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>>577046402
In this world, it's fill or be filled
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I love non-lewd cute Aquas...
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>>577046271
Call that filler the way I wanna fill her up, if you catch my drift
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>>577043412
https://retroachievements.org/game/41157
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>>577045912
>5 feels like a slap in the face after the tonal shift the previous chapter established
The "tone shift" being Susie being in denial about the terrible thing in the final prophecy... And then ignoring it to enjoy her date, try to save Asgore and continue the plan of getting into the shelter. Man, if only chapter 4 had a big theme about not letting the prophecy define you and being yourself and doing what you believe in DESPITE of prophecies right? Would've been a really cool setup for flowery's whole deal and arc
>I also think 5 just outright failed at being fun
Would you have had fun if there were more key words in bold red text being explained?
>All of the story beats felt like they were beating the audience over the head with stuff we already know
Clearly not since you didn't catch any of them but ig toby isnt writing for the Special Ed class
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>>577046579
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>>577046579
This image makes me laugh about timepooper's failure to communicate every time now.
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Seven.
Seven colored Gasters.
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>>577046813
SEX
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>>577046684
wow more insults and browbeating very cool toby I love chapter 5 now
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>>577044789
>>577044983

I dunno, with how inspired Toby is by Homestuck and how much it went through the "haha can you believe I had a crush on you for a few days? That was such a short time so long ago, totally unimportant!" stuff towards the end I feel like Toby is at the very least going to address how short the timespan has been in deltarune
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>>577046715
Lots of blue yellow couples. I guess Kerdly is inevitable.
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>>577046715
>kris x starwalker theory
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Fave lives in a low housing environment that goes by the government name of Section 8.
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>>577046715
does that mean kris fucks alphys, monster kid or noelle?
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Kris is female in the light world and male in the dark world
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>>577046684
>someone’s genuine criticism
>respond with snarky meme one-liners
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Toby...
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A lot of Deltarune's audience and arguable Toby himself suffer from something I like to call Susie blindness. Basically no other characters exist or are important besides Susie
Is Raslei going through a character arc? No only Susie does that
Does Kris have any characterization at all? No they are a mute blank slate that only exists to further Susie's story
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>>577047095
toby here, i was actually ripping off danganronpa v3 with the memory stuff
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>>577046870
>wtf I posted my retarded subliterate opinion why did someone call me a retard?
Are you one of the freaks that gets offended when somebody says "media literacy" too?
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the snowman from undertale will appear in ch6
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>>577046998
Light World Kerdly and Dark World Kriselle
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>>577044616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgeYScYe8wI
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>>577047176
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>>577047168
yeah I'm a chud freak /v/ invader moid who just found out about deltarune yesterday
all of the bad posts here are made by me and my favorite character is gaster
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>>577047256
both cursed in their own right.
kerdly being so cursed that even kris screams at you in confusion and kriselle being cursed enough for you to attempt aggravated murder by kicking you into next tuesday in a trashcan.
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>>577047082
If someone's "genuine criticism" is that "chapter 4 should've been after chapter 5" then they are a retard who should be called a retard because that take is so retarded
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>>577047168
epic own, bro! take my Reddit gold!
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>>577047360
the person you're talking to just does this all day, theres no reason to respond further
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fave is going to turn into a truck now
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>>577047213
he’s ice-e’s dad
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>>577047398
>chapter 4 should've been after chapter 5
Who are you quoting?
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>>577046063
I was around for 6 months after chapter 2, and only 1 month after chapter 3. I just got a job with chapter 5's release and normal social media can't numb me enough so I'm here indulging and extending the hyperfixation.

It's good to have something to care strongly about. Keeps me going. Like taking care of flowers.
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>>577047360
>>577047413
Concession accepted
>>577047415
Nuh uh sometimes I go play minecrap
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>>577047095
Lucas is a braver man than I cause I'd kms if I had to carry a stinkbug in my pocket
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>>577047123
This is an obvious result of Susie being the only character not hiding some mysterious backstory/motivations. Obviously people are going to focus on the character whose character arcs we actually witness rather than characters who have half their stories hidden and whose actions could be completely contextually changed by future information.
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look at these future accessories to genocide.
aren't they fucking "adorbz"?
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>>577047123
This doesn't apply after Chapter 4 because Susie knows what the final prophecy is but you don't
Deltarune has a very strange and uniquely annoying way of storytelling by denying the player access to information
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>>577047659
Rudy is super cute, yeah.
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>>577047548
It wouldn't be so painful if they didn't get angry at anyone who insists that there are things in the game that are important besides Susie
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>>577047564
i should stretch more
my thighs feel funny today after my squats yesterday
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>>577047702
It's because Toby doesn't want to commit to anything so he always saves moving the plot forward and explaining things for last minute
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>>577047659
I'd let Asgore genocide me any day
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>>577047803
flat-chested feminine kris makes my heart feel funny
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chapter 4 was bad because susie had a bad time
chapter 5 was fun because susie had a fun time
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>>577047123
>Chapter 5 Castle Town
>Get to Ralsei's room
>Ralsei shocked and asks to clean it up
>Susie says, sure, your room your rules
>Try to open the Ralsei Rancher wardrobe
>Ralsei CLEARLY wants to try it
>Susie closes it again
So I guess Susie is only for Ralsei's free will when it suits her the fucking bitch.
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>>577047702
>This doesn't apply after Chapter 4 because Susie knows what the final prophecy is but you don't
I always feel like this is a set-up for a plot twist in the future, where you the Player makes some choice and then are told that was the "enact the final prophecy" choice all along,
and susie and ralsei are asking kris why the made that choice, saying "didn't you see the final prophecy?"
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>>577047913
i would asgore genocide you too.
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>>577048002
Denying me Ralsei Rancher makes me feel less bad about what happens to her gf in weird route.
Should have just let me enjoy the horse goat but two can play at that game.
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FINE
NOBODY RANCH
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>>577036304
Remember when he said Jarona and taught Susie about the UI? I really hope he comes back in the last chapter to die to the Knight a second time. He's such an amazing character.
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Everything hurts
says Pink
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>>577047702
>>577047847
>grrr why isn't the game explaining everything as soon as possible and undercutting any air of mystery or tension?
>if I don't get my gasterdessknight stimmies then it's vaguepost ragebait
>I need those stimmies NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
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>>577048002
your pic is what happens when susie tells pink that kris flirts with every enemy.
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Why is the thread so unpleasant right now...?
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I love when he does this smile like you can't imagine
I love him, I love everything about him, I love him so much
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>susie constantly denies the will of the other characters
>heh your choices don't matter
The game has been hammering the audience over the head with this stuff for 5 chapters but Deltarune fans absolutely refuse to acknowledge that Susie isn't perfect
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>undercutting any air of mystery or tension
you don't wanna go there bro
kek
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>>577048432
Because dess groomed me on amino
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>>577048354
Pink would wear a shirt that says "Everything hurts and I'm dying" in big bold letters so she doesn't even have to say it.
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>>577048432
no one’s posting oc :(
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>>577048432
the undesireables are here
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>>577048491
I do. Please post your retarded takes, fag who is too afraid to use the reply feature
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>>577047646
so truuuue
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>>577048623
hi!
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Post KNIGHT Aura
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>>577048558
I can't make OC I'm at work so I make jokes about Susie denying us Ralsei Rancher.

It's a funny joke guys I'm not serious I love Soupie. ;(
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>>577048372
I don't believe the game can solve all its mysteries in a satisfying manner at the very last second no matter if the dog said "trust me bro"
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>>577048667
not him but nothing undercuts the air of mystery and tension more than dragging it out for years and years like some bloated manga
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Abandoned weird route where Susie leaves after learning what you did to Noelle and you can finally unlock ralsei rancher and play for 10000 hours
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Toby just should've waited to release the game until 2030
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>it's canon in my mind that the pacing is good so thinking that something is wrong with the pacing is non-canon
imagine any other author saying this
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>>577048675
I want a comfy mellow pillow wife that talks about cool dark magic and we yap for 3 hours about D&D before going to sleep.
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>>577048891
this is more fun tho
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>>577048792
I think the real secret is that the game is way more shallow than most people think and it's only going to address a few obvious things. It'll put a dramatic spin on it, but if you were expecting an actual story web I don't think one is there.
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>>577048426
kek
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>>577048759
why are you using your phone at work. break?
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would it really have been more satisfying to have answers slowly given to you across 3 chapters instead of having everything suddenly snap into place in Toby's weird ass apocalyptic fever dream ending
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>>577048957
Feels like any author would say this, the flaws of their work may not be so readily apparent to them as it is to others
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>>577048432
This is better than the constant Brianrot on Reddit
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>>577049056
Squandering my second chance to be a functional adult because I spent 6 years NEETing and I'm struggling to adapt to a 9-to-5. Why else?
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>>577049095
if they dont think the pacing is good then why would they make it in the first place
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>>577049179
why would you ever browse reddit.
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>>577048957
What else do you want him to say?
>*sigh* I fucked up this chapter release doesn't work the game is a mess the dev hell sucked... anyway I'm rushing chapter 7 so I can finally kms in peace for ruining my dream game
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>>577049350
mister how many threads have you missed from this job just from today?
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>>577045652
Telling a meta story was always his goal. Go play something else
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>omigosh I just looved the flowers!
>jerona LOL
>suselle was so cute squee!
>ralsei is so heckin valid
what do positive deltarune communities even have to talk about these days?
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>>577049105
MTT poster fighting an uphill battle to make the thread nice. I shall contribute too, by posting fave.
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i hope dess comes out the shelter looking like a wendigo
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>>577049423
Honestly, I liked Reddit because my posts could get attention without having to spam a lot of hashtags, but the constant moaning about LGTB-slop basically killed my love for it
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>>577048792
>at the very last second
What is this bizarre obsession with everything happening at "the last second?" There are three major plot threads that aren't fandom hallucinations: whatever the last prophecy/"the one ending" are, the knights identity, and what happened on "that day." The latter two are likely deeply related, and the former is about... Well the ending so I don't think we're going to learn about that sooner than chapter 7. We still don't know enough about the gaster stuff to know how it will or won't tie but I have a feeling that the resolution of the egg/forgotten man stuff will make it clear
>>577048797
>dragging it out for years and years like some bloated manga
This is an inherently disingenuous position, you are comparing a, so far, 30 hour game that has been release over 8 years with a handful of supplemental (and optional) out of game content to serialized comic releasing week by week for a magazine over however long. This is not 14 years of "omg I wonder what Aizen's big plan is" because Kubo had no actual idea of where he was going this is "autists getting mad that the author isn't compromising the story because development is taking longer than they would like"
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>>577049084
I don't think the proper thing would be to just "give up the answers" like some fans whine the critics want.

I think the issue with ch5 is that you get stuff like Asgore bellowing "LEAVE" instead of having a conversation. Every character in ch5 is avoiding a conversation about anything that matters. It's funny, because you could have Asgore explain why he doesn't want to talk about The Horrible Day, and getting insight into his feelings about would still feel like something. Like, oh, I don't know what this is, but it impacted Asgore a lot.

Instead it's "I know things only some people know" coming from a lot of different characters. Then Asgore saying, "Eh I'm over it, actually," at the end.

Like you shoukd not have a chapter where we learn nothing about the characters, and there's no plot information, and we're told it'll be another year before we get the next chapter after waiting over a year for this chapter.

>>577049095
An author might say this if they weren't used to working with an editor or anyone with actual proof-reading skills. If an editor says, "the pacing is slow" normally you need to go trim your work up.
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>>577049556
That's the spirit
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>>577049512
He basically said that if you read between the lines
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>>577049591
>not just browsed
>actually posted there
you do not belong here.
you belong with people that ban you permanently for calling kris a he and faggots that can't handle kriselle/krusie.
no wonder this place is filled with faggots and utterly dogshit opinions when people like you are allowed to be here.
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toby's drive to bring his vision to life inspires me to create. i hope it does the same for you all.
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>>577048667
the whole game is anti-tension and mystery because everything is chungified seconds later
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>>577048957
He was polite about it but he's allowed to say that complaints and criticisms are invalid because he doesn't really need to care what the fans think.
This is a good thing too.

He is making Deltarune for himself. He's not putting in Jarona because he expected us to find it funny or connect it to an old song but simply because he and his brothers were goobers growing up and capturing that energy and personal nostalgia is what's actually important to him.

Also pacing in writing in video games isn't nearly as important as it is in a book or film. There's not a time limit on how much time he needs to spend on plot or characters or cool boss fights, it's arbitrary in length and you can easily front or back load the story as much as you want and move as fast or slow as you want and be entirely successful in delivering the story. If he sticks the landing and delivers a world class ending nobody's going to call chapters "filler" anymore because the concept already doesn't really work with the medium.

That said, despite Toby Fox being a hack chapter 5 was great.
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>>577049654
It's going to be 14 years of "omg I wonder what Kris's big plan is" sooner than later
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>>577048957
Who are you quoting?
>>577049056
>why are you using your phone at work
Nta but stealing company time is based
>>577049512
The media illiterate are just malding that toby called them retards in language just unsubtle enough that they could understand it
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Notice how no one in the chapter 3 dark world was like "Oh I love your mom"
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>>577049904
>Who is Tenna
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>>577049842
>It's not filler because if you think about it, maybe filler doesn't technically exist
Your brain doesn't theoretically exist you fanboy nerd.
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>>577049941
who is Tenna?
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>>577049842
He obviously cares otherwise the Mikes and all the throuple stuff wouldn't be in the game
Not to mention how he has to do damage control for Toriel every chapter
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>>577049665
> It's funny, because you could have Asgore explain why he doesn't want to talk about The Horrible Day

>"Kris, as you know since you were present at that day, speaking about it is uncomfortable as it may bring up unpleasant memories for me and especially for you. That's why I do not want to speak about it"

If only Asgore said this, chapter 5 would've been saved!
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name one game with no filler
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>>577050146
tetris
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ch5 had too much animeslop
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>>577049904
Toriel doesn't keep good care of her darkners. Tenna was unplugged and unused for years. The Darkners in chapter 3 love and wants Kris's attention because Kris was the one who played with them and gave their life meaning.
The darkners in chapter 5 treat Asgore like God because he would spend so much time looking after them and maintaining them, no matter what.
This probably means all the Darkners in Chapter 6 will fucking HATE Carol because she does shit to torture them like cast them in bronze and keep them turned off to preserve battery life
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>>577050146
märio
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>>577050054
He could have talked to Ralsei or Susie, numbnuts.

The legend of the gay flowers isn't really the story of Deltarune and it wasn't why I was excited for the next chapter to begin with. I want to learn about Deltarune and the key characters in it.
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>>577050183
wasn't that the whole point?
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>>577049985
One Piece doesn't have filler either.
You actually need to watch all 1000+ episodes and care about every scrimblo and random bad guy with a tragic backstory because it matters. All of it matters and you missed the point entirely if you wanted to skip to Luffy punching another guy faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9EN52mVq4M
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>>577049771
>NOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE LEVITY AND JOY AND HUMOR
>IT HAS TO BE FNAF BACKROOMS GARTEN OF BANBAN SCARY SPOOKY LORE STIMMIES AT ALL TIMES
>I CANT FEEL TWO EMOTIONS AT ONCE STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
>>577049878
Toby isn't releasing monthly content updates of the game that don't go anywhere or asking for you to pay to his patreon every month while he trickles out nontent. The game is being made and will be completed sooner than later. To quote another auteur
>It'll be out when it's out
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>>577050021
Who is Tenna? What is Tenna?
These are the questions that have plagued mankind for as long as civilization has stood the test of time
>insert youtube video essay here
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>>577050146
ghosts n goblins
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Chapter 5 is the best in the game btw and it’s not particularly close. Actually 4 is kind of close. But 5 is the best #fact
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>>577050021
the sex icon of the mid-2020s
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>>577050021
I don't know but it sounds like I love it
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>>577050236
“your princess is in another castle” is the original filler arc in gaming
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There is only a finite amount of Deltarune
One day it will all be over and we are going to wish there had been more character moments between the main trio rather than wasting so much time of the music robots and flowers and other duds
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>>577047913
>hear the news that the monster's King Asgore has emerged from beneath Mt Ebott and plans to genocides all humans
>eagerly await the godlike goat man to come to torture me
>he just starts crying on my couch
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>>577050146
Kirby
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>>577050146
pac man-- no wait, it has those stupid ass cutscenes
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>>577049665
You have a severe lack of understanding of how people naturally talk and behave
>Asgore bellowing "LEAVE" instead of having a conversation.
That is completely normal. Especially from a parent telling their kid to get the fuck out. No he would not take 5 minutes to explain why he wants Kris out of the dark world, why would he ever do that
>It's funny, because you could have Asgore explain why he doesn't want to talk about The Horrible Day
That would be completely and totally stillted and unnatural.
>Then Asgore saying, "Eh I'm over it, actually," at the end
That's not what happened. Asgore saw his kid almost fucking die in the dark world and decided to prioritize Kris's safety
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>>577050280
yes, actually, you shouldn’t turn the big bad into a retarded hamster and still pretend the story is supposed to have stakes.
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>>577050476
What does this mean? I want to understand the mind of this kind of person.
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>>577050476
People can always make an infinite amount of fan made filler dark world adventures with quirky chungus darkner of the day
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>>577050325
4 was terrible because there were no fan art bait characters
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>>577050049
He does care bigly about how people think about him and the game, the newsletter is reminding people that we do just need to trust him and that it will all make sense when we have the entire picture. Some of the pieces are not supposed to fit, and we are not necessarily supposed to like the way it looks. He probably should get some help writing social media posts, his messaging could be a bit more clear and are not doing him many favors anymore by being quirky.
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>>577048197
To save the worlds there's only one way
You must open the ranch of ralsei
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>>577047659
""""genocide"""" and it was like 6 annoying kids spaced out between 3-7 years per kid.
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>>577050254
Rare Doomer truth nuke.
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>>577050675
>hello, my love...
>...come kill more children with me...
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>>577050612
>That is completely normal
No it isn't and it felt especially out of character for Asgore
The whole chapter felt totally stilted and unnatural so a conversation like that wouldn't have hurt
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>>577049665
It's so funny that most of the chapter 5 criticisms boil down to
>I'm autistic and I do not understand why everyone isn't constantly explaining why and how they're feeling in that moment as concisely and explicitly as possible
>Why am I being expected to read between the lines? Why is new information contradicting the stuff I convinced myself was true for 5 years?
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>>577049552
I'm writing a huge discussion video trying to preserve the air of mystery, excitement, and dread surrounding Kris Dreemurr.

I don't have a theory to make but I want to gush about how cool Kris is and how their story can go so many ways and how right now is really the last chance we'll have to imagine "what could be" before it all collapses into a final product of "what is."

Kris is so damn cool. The chances that Kris makes it out of the next few chapters in a happy and healthy state seem increasingly slim and it's still unclear what their goal is and its so fun to imagine and speculate.

Is Kris fully on board with "the plan" or is the promise keeping them bound as blackmail? Is Kris truly willing to hurt their friends for a promise? Does Kris actually enjoy being evil and violent? Does Kris have their own plan outside of the promise? Is Kris planning to kill themself after their betrayal comes to light? Is Kris gonna lose a hand, and how would Kris cope? What if Kris could never play the piano again, would they kill themselves then? Would their friendship with Susie help them recover emotionally as they teach Susie piano? Will Kris ever trust us? Will we ever get to talk to Kris? Will Kris find some love? Will Kris doom everyone? Will Kris become a new Knight? Will Kris use their real knife in a dark world?

I have so much much much more I fucking love Kris and I'm so excited and scared to see what happens next.
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>>577050612
>It's completely normal for your dad to bellow at you instead of talking like an adult
Well I can tell why you're so mentally stunted. It's amazing how you can suggest a good way to write an actual story. Like give Asgore more then ten minutes of screen time to flesh him out a little,. Yet you will get retards saying
>No, that makes no logical sense because it isn't what happened in the game. Asgore shouting like a downy retard is the only thing Toby could logically do with him
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>>577050830
This anon has never gone somewhere they're not supposed to be, apparently
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>>577049591
>too woke for reddit
please stop coming here
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>>577050641
>the big bad
>a giant hamster
Do... Do you thing king is "the big bad?" Really? Have you never seen the "early story enemy brought back as a harmless joke" thing ever?
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>>577050641
>people are STILL seething about king
he was sent to his room and fell asleep with his tongue sticking out cutely in chapter one, get over it
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>>577050853
Why didn't these supposedly media illiterate autists complain about the previous chapters?
Was there something fundamentally different about 5 that changed things?
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Great, I see we've assembled all the worst posters in one thread. All according to plan.
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>>577050987
errm he literally said in explicit text he is The Bad Guy by Billie Eilish?
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>>577047646
>>577048675
>>577048974
Deltarune from Catti's perspective is so weird you're just wagecucking as usual and getting ready for the festival and then the quiet neighbour kid who you used to be friends with conspires to get the girl you love hooked up with the girl you hate as revenge for something that happened half your lifetime ago.
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>>577050853
Maybe I don't want to develop my entire understanding of the game and its characters through YouTube essays?

Asgore was BARELY on screen. Holy fuck, it's not autistic to say the guy was robbed and we barely got to know him. No, I'm not going to watch your video essay explaining that the flowers are a metaphor if you read between the lines and assume it HAS to be genius somehow.
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>>577051009
That everything isn't explained in detail all the time is the prevailing critique of deltarune
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>>577050987
Turning everything into a joke makes the whole story feel like a pointless joke
Why the audience care if Toby doesn't take anything seriously?
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>>577050830
>No it isn't and it felt especially out of character for Asgore
The dark worlds for Asgore are a traumatic place, it was so horrendous that it uprooted his entire life.
A new one pops up, and then he finds his child in there.
I think his reaction was valid
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wait was spamton’s [bracket] dialogue made by playing ad libs, because he’s an AD guy
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>>577049342
Is it weird if Flowery and Lancer are my favorite characters
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>>577051012
Who besides Kraut and doomiewooms since they're always here due to neither having lives
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>>577051135
When has anything ever been explained in detail? (aside from ralsei's awkward darkworld explanation at the opening of chapter 3)
Chapter 5 just flat out fumbled and a lot of fans aren't willing to look the other way and laugh it off anymore
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Hey Raly, I can't use my legs anymore. I deserve disability accommodations. You have to take care of me for the for-sea-able future because that's your job isn't it? Are you gonna make me wear a diaper and change it twice a day? My flower juices have to go somewhere.
Raly why are there only stairs in the castle? Why didn't you account for the paralyzed? Can you build an elevator? Preferably with my face because I suggested the idea first.
I also want a cool swirly slide that goes from my room upstairs down to Sussie's room. She's cool and actually knows how to have fun, unlike you.
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>>577051192
Was it valid how he went through a 10 second character arc and got over his trauma instantly at the end of the chapter?
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>>577051009
>Why didn't these supposedly media illiterate autists complain about the previous chapters?
They did newfag, ESPECIALLY chapter 3. You'll notice that chapter 3, like 5, is another chapter where the themes and plot points aren't stated explicitly by a mr exposition character
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>>577051335
>cue a re-enactment of Misery with Ralsei as the crazy woman
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Chapter 4 > Chapter 5 > Chapter 1 > Chapter 2 >>>>>>>>>> Chapter 3
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>>577051230
no it just means you appreciate laidback, mostly unserious characters that approach the world with a smile
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>>577051483
I'm one of the people complaining about 5 and I love 3
You're entire argument hinges on people only disliking 5 because they are bad people who are incapable of enjoying what was supposedly a perfect flawless chapter
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>>577051483
People complained about chapter 3 because you spend a lot of time fucking around playing a weak Zelda knockoff with really basic puzzle elements. People felt like their time was being wasted there too because it kind of was, but in the end the chapter still did more for the story than chapter 5 did.
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>>577051098
And then the world might end in a chapter and Catti might never get a chance to do anything. Cucked and then the world ends. What a life.
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>>577048707
>Knight aura
>everyone in the picture is auramogging the Knight Ohio style
Try again nephew
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>>577051483
Toby tried to be more meta about his themes and such in chapter 3 and it was lost on basically everyone and the videogame within a dark world within a light world within a video game layers of depth was too convoluted for midwits to properly parse and follow.
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>>577051174
>Why the audience care if Toby doesn't take anything seriously
You should show me where the actual serious real world consequences moments, like the kidnappings or the final prophecy moment, are undercut by humor.
>>577051120
>Maybe I don't want to develop my entire understanding of the game and its characters through YouTube essays?
>but don't ask me to understand the characters that are metaphors and allusions to other characters
>I need the character in question to explain how he thinks and feels in no uncertain terms and as clearly as possible with no room for audience interpretation or speculation
>I'm not autistic btw
It's really funny that you think any type of indirect storytelling is "YouTube essay bait"
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>>577051821
I like Frisk ships. Like a lot. Why don't they feel creepy to me
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>>577051830
>uhm all these other examples of supposedly serious moments don't count BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T OK
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Random schizo thought: Given that Deltarune is full of biblical stuff, am I the only one who thinks Noelle is going to be like Noah, the guy who built a giant ark to save all the animals during the flood? Maybe Noelle will try to bring everyone to the Dark World when the Roaring finally came to bite everyone asses.
I really didn't give it much thought. My brain just farted that idea.
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>>577052038
They definitely do to me
I guess some people aren't creeped out by them because they're used to seeing Frisk as an extension of themselves
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>>577052058
In raise up your bat in chapter 3, "your heart," presumably the soul, is described as "the ark which will shine you your way through the waves," presumably of darkness
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>>577052058
It's possible
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I think Flowery and Ralsei's relationship is meant to parallel Kris and Asriel's just a little bit, maybe.
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Can Maddie get Mew Mew pregnant?
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>>577052038
my man did go on a killing spree that one time
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>>577052058
The only thing schizo about this is the possibility of Noelle being the one to save anyone. She's too caught up in her own world and needs saving herself.
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>>577051773
I guess the world ending stuff and the dark worlds means that Kris and Susie and Noelle are having an objectively weirder week but Catti's situation is something that can plausibly happen irl so I'm thinking about it more like it's an actual situation and not a video game.
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>>577051830
No author with any sense would tell you "this is the story of John", spend the entire book telling you about Tom, Dick, and Harry - while John is heard from again once in the middle of the book and again at the end - then come back and say, "Yeah I hoped you like the story of John, which I told you because Tom, Dick, and Harry were metaphors that represented John.

Like I'll take your word for it, dumbass. John was never on screen for me to say for sure if Tom, Dick, and Harry had much to do with John so I can't prove you're wrong, either.
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>>577052179
my brother would pretend to be Neji and 8 Trigrams 64 Palms my ass when we were kids. It hurt a lot more the fifth or sixth time in a row he did it
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>Deltarune is Cero B
Discuss the implications of no graphic death in game
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>>577052204
trannies can get pregnant?
new fear unlocked.
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>>577051830
He hasn't undercut those serious moments yet but there are still two chapters to go
Undyne and Asgore might be watching anime together when we find them
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>>577052296
Nubert gets popped like a pimple in Chapter 6.
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>>577052296
Flowery got split across the torso and lost an arm.
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>>577052231
you have not read books
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>>577051773
Catti had a good life up until that point so it's fine.
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why do you want ralsei rancher? what do you think it entails? do you think you’ll get to feed ralsei apples by hand and brush his fur or some shit? and he’s not even fully a horse he’s just wearing horse ears and tail and maybe a cute dress…? you sound crazy
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Theres only so much we can judge the game before it fully releases ultimately. Plenty of foreshadowing could be in service of bad plot points, and a lot of the metaphores could end up undercut by things that happen later on.
With a game so heavily built on mysteries and secrets you kinda have to take things at face value until we get all the info
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>>577052386
I've read books but apparently I'm not reading retarded enough books to ever see things as bad as the "the flowers are metaphors for Asgore so he didn't need to be on screen ever" school of technique.
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I'm mad I couldn't cuck Noelle with Susie despite making Kris and Susie do everything together, and then when Susie was talking about how she and Kris had something special and just theirs I thought I had done it, but then.... HOLIDAY KEKED ME? Susie wants to bring her IN on OUR THING? I'm fuming. I wanted to fuck the big purple dino.
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>>577051759
>the game changed the formula and presentation for thematic purposes so my time was wasted!!
If the puzzles were exactly the same and took the exact same amount of time but it didn't have the zelda skin and visuals would you also feel this way? What about the TV Time boards is so horribly offensive to you and why should I feel that way too?
>>577051805
>Toby tried to be more meta about his themes and such in chapter 3 and it was lost on basically everyone
Just because it was lost on the majority of players doesn't meant it didn't have reasoning and value to the overall narrative and themes of the game. It should be obvious as to what they are at this point in the story but there will be a LOT of secondaries and retards pretending like they knew the whole time once the end of the game makes these things explicit
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>>577052296
Everything is already pixelated.
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>>577052497
>pic
WHAT DOES ANY OF THAT MEAN
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>>577052462
Problem with that is that at face value, everyone is lying and we don't know anything.
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>>577052296
You can do a lot working within the limitations of cartoon violence and using your imagination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cXB9IqABjo
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>>577052043
The fact that you couldn't understand a question that basic is concerning but makes a lot of sense
>>577052231
You should go read any book that doesn't say Harry Potter or Percy Jackson on the cover for the love of God
>>577052334
>Undyne and Asgore might be watching anime together when we find them
Theoryschizo catastrophization needs to be studied
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>real life doesn't have arcs or cathartic endings so you shouldn't expect that in a video game either
How can people expect a satisfying ending when Toby has said stuff like this in the past
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>>577052645
>signed, spamton
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>>577052296
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>>577052179
>hey bro can we play pirates vs ninjas?
>I USE MY ULTIMATE MOON SLASH MOVE THAT DOES INFINITE DAMAGE AND CAN'T BE BLOCKED
>YOU'RE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG FUCK YOOOOOU
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>>577052730
is toby fox falling into the new writer trap
oh god
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>>577052596
It means Noelle is very very annoying
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>>577052730
>real life doesn't have arcs
Does maturing and experiencing trauma count as "arcs"?
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>>577052038
It's natural to like lolis no matter the age.
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>>577052447
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>>577052447
I want to use the No Rest method to train Ralsei with two Runs and two Meditations by feeding him Tablet, 2 Nuts Oil and 2 Mint Leaves each week.
I want to then enter Ralsei in tournaments and defeat the Major 4 and become the world's best Ralsei Rancher.
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>>577052447
You have no idea what monster ranching is, but I don't blame you it was way less popular than Pokemon, Digimon, and Yugioh.
I want an entire game of breeding and raising Ralseis to fight other faves with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN7xA-7RcaI
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>>577052447
>why do you want ralsei rancher?
Because I want to ranch Ralseis, obviously.
>what do you think it entails?
Ranching Ralseis
>do you think you’ll get to feed ralsei apples by hand and brush his fur or some shit?
>and he’s not even fully a horse he’s just wearing horse ears and tail and maybe a cute dress…?
Yes yes please all of that
>you sound crazy
If wanting to pamper and care for a cute goat prince/ss is wrong then I don't want to be right
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>>577052717
Undyne and Asgore being kidnapped by the knight is theoryschizo stuff now?
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Ralsei making goat noises would immediately turn me off, it would remind me that I'm trying to copulate with a stinking barn animal
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Why would Carol and Rudy kidnap their own daughter?
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>>577052301
Trans men can and it's really hot
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The Knight is Asriel and he has Dess trapped in his groomer neckbeard sex dungeon
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>>577052730
>Deltarune doesn't have arcs
This is what stimmyschizos actually believe
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wanting things is bad and evil only susie is allowed to do that
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>>577051759
Zelda wasn't the single complaint people had about the chapter, did you seriously forget the ball of morons who complained about not getting any lore or plot advancement? 3 would always get talked to shit while 4 was hailed as this mystical perfect chapter that was the sole reason the previous chapter release mattered
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>>577052717
How about you name a single respected book that's written like you think chapter 5 was. The closest thing I can think of was seeing a movie about split personalities where each "character" was a metaphor for one guy, and that movie also sucked.

>>577052513
The boards just got a little tedious. It wasn't as bad as chapter 5 where you feel like your time is being deliberately wasted because there's still character moments and some neat stuff. There's no collect-a-thons like with Pink's coins. But even Toby reported the final board got cut because it was dragging.
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>>577052957
Name of the artist of your pic? SauceNAO and Google give me nothing.
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>>577052963
Why are you fags so incredibly disingenuous? Does it make you feel clever?
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>>577053043
They didn't kidnap her. If it is them, I'd imagine they used her/tricked her into her position as knight/ getting put in the code of the game.
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ralsei rancher being blocked happened twice
that means with the rule of threes in comedy that we will actually unlock it on the third attempt
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>>577053187
brain-d0g on tumblr
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>>577053136
>3 would always get talked to shit while 4 was hailed as this mystical perfect chapter that was the sole reason the previous chapter release mattered
They were the only chapters bundled together for a reason
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>>577053060
>https://youtu.be/5obN-9_odzw
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>>577053136
People missed all the lore in 3 because it was hidden behind getting S rank twice and people weren't willing to replay the zelda parts
It still had great characterization all around though, unlike 5, which had undeveloped each character instead
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>>577053132
I remember when Susie admonished me for having a few small date fruits and a glass of water after my 30 day fasting meditation.
I thought she had a point until I saw her feasting on chicken dumplings with soju just for breakfast
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>>577052717
>The fact that you couldn't understand a question that basic is concerning but makes a lot of sense
I accept your concession
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>>577053307
Thanks
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>>577053281
>Ralsei Rancher is Chapter 8
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What is this retarded gibberish
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I wanna cuddle with Catti!!!!!
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>>577053236
I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about
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>>577053371
No problem, their stuff is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoDiRV4oHms
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>>577053317
If chapter 3 released on it's own and we had to endure a year long cliffhanger with Kris outside the bunker with door open...
and then open chapter 4 without going in the bunker?
He had to bundle it
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>>577052447
I assume it's doing training minigames with Ralsei in the horse costume to raise his stats, and race him against anime girls
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>DA LOREZ!!!!1!
Whatever. Fave bought a dragonfruit today expecting it to be a sweet tropical delicacy like pineapple or coconut candies but instead it tastes like fave is eating watery beets
Not awful but definitely disappointing. For fave
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>>577053179
>How about you name a single respected book that's written like you think chapter 5 was
It's not how I "think" chapter 5 is written it's how it IS written. The fact that you think symbolism and character allusions are this crazy literary evolution that toby is attempting tells me anything I could point you to would be lost in you
>It wasn't as bad as chapter 5 where you feel like your time is being deliberately wasted because there's still character moments and some neat stuff
Did you play the chapter with your eyes closed?
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>>577033920
https://rentry.co/62fuyfux
I feel I turd polished this enough for it to be readable from start to finish
first time writing smut so it sucks
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>>577053435
not my work this time.
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>>577053539
If you think about it, chapter 3 cliffhanger still would have been better than ch5 because it wouldn't be a dead moment. People would be wondering what happens next.

With ch5 it's becoming obvious there's not really anything here. The romance stuff is meh. Asgore is over with. The Knight is getting repetitive. We're still fucking around about the shelter. We still don't know anything. Ralsei can cast fire but it doesn't matter. The UI is a thing but it doesn't matter. Even The Horrible Day is a meme now thanks to this chapter.
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>>577053179
>because there's still character moments and some neat stuff.
You're making it obvious.
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>>577053649
Dragon fruit tastes almost exactly kiwi fruit I think you might have just bought rotten dragon fruit
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>>577053781
Those posts? Some of them were me.
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i’m saving most of these mettatons btw, my folder was lacking
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>>577053489
Show me where I said Undyne and Asgore being kidnapped is "theoryschizo catastrophization" or how what I said could reasonably be interpreted as that, retard
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>>577053746
I can't help but notice you didn't name a book written how you think ch5 is. If this is such a genius idea surely other beloved authors must do it sometimes. Hard mode: name a book where the main character isn't institutionalized.
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>>577053878
Huh??? Is it actually supposed to be sweet? Fave is concerned
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Can you STOP fucking posting Mettaton I'm gonna have to rub one out in the staff bathroom
don't actually stop
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>>577053939
Glad I could help
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this goes unbelievably hard
https://files.catbox.moe/6r13a0.mp4
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There should be a platform where people could bet money on what they think is going to happen next chapter.
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>>577052730
Has he actually said ANYTHING like this EVER?
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>>577054151
FUCK OFF gambling is literally everywhere these days it's crazy
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Any other cute anthro cat girl characters in games, THAT AREN'T PORN?
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What's the deal with Ralsei? What IS he? Darkner? Dustner? Goner? How does he always get around? If he's an object that Kris carries, then why is he always separated from them and Susie whenever they show up in a dark world? Why doesn't he petrify? What might his new use of fire magic similar to Toriel's magic in Undertale mean for him and who he is outside of being like Ralsei?
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>>577053842
Yes, anon. I'm trying to make it obvious that you care about a character story because of the characters.
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>>577054283
Wenda from sprinki
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>>577054283
Punsuka Myuumyuu.
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>>577054163
he mentioned flushing a toilet several times hoping something would happen. nothing special happened and he remarked real life isn't like video games where something could've happened if you flushed the toilet several times
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>>577054315
You'll find out in the next chapter of Dragon Ball Z!
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>>577054151
Deltarune polymarket would be the most predatory shit ever. The more time you spend thinking about the game the worse your bets are.
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>>577054239
wouldnt really be gambling either since its not chance based
toby already knew what was going to happen next chapter years ago
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>>577053992
It might just be a shitty old fruit you're probably not going to get sick. It's a little less sweet than a kiwi you might just not like the flavor
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>>577054151
throuplemarket
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>>577053776
what the fuck is that ending kek
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>>577054315
>Why doesn't he petrify?
Pure darkness fountain in castle town doesn't petrify anything, could be related to that.
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>>577054504
It's a known fact that polymarket betting is dominated by insiders. If you don't already know the answer you shouldn't be gambling on those sites.
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>>577054513
>Kiwi is sweet to some fag out there
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>>577053980
>I can't help but notice you didn't name a book written how you think ch5 is
Because anybody with the ability to read should be able to pick a book off the shelf and comprehend how events and characters in the book are both representative of parallel events both in-narrative figures and events and real world figures and events. If you had any sense you'd realize your question is as absurd as asking "show me a lake with water in it" and when I call you a read and walk away you declare victory
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>>577052228
Man, who doesn't fucking need saving in that group, they're all miserable in some way
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Mettaton is so fucking hot. so fucking ohot
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>>577054151
Most of this fandom would end up like Spamton.
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>>577054637
>fave is allergic to kiwi fruit and didn't realize it
mystery solved
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>>577053971
It was right here in this post >>577052717
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>>577054796
Loved by millions of people?
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>>577054672
If I asked you to name a lake with water in it you'd be drowning in choices, dipshit. Lake Tapawingo. Boom, I named one.

But you can't think of a single book written as badly as you think Ch5 is.
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>>577054151
I'm laughing from just thinking about it, imagine the seething posts here and everywhere online about some retard having lost their elderly parents' savings or some shit like that
Please god let this happen because it would be so fucking funny
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>>577054096
Yes it does.
At least link to the creator.
https://youtu.be/JK77PAbdHd4?is=Z5hUIiMtFBU0aRJP
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>>577054934
Okay now read the part I quoted slowly and then imagine me calling you a retard afterwards
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Heh it's my jarona
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haha give to you!
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>>577054951
If their predictions are right, then yeah, I guess.
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>>577054338
how the fuck did that game even get such a big following.
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>>577054951
I think he meant living in the trash
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>>577054915
I'm not allergic, I just don't think it's sweet
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>>577054096
I probably watched it like a 100 times today, wish they posted more stuff, I love all their Deltarune animations
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>>577055008
NTA but should I also imagine you as a fat, acne-ridden nerd who's been banned from three game stores? Because I am.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoyJgR_09Vw
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>>577055000
ah, forgot to add the source, my bad.
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how do I stop jerking off to mettaton under my desk at work
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>>577053850
>>577054152
>>577054345
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>>577051784
The Knight is cool! They're stoic in the face of strong foes! It's SO AURA
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>>577055128
I don't know what to tell you man maybe you buy shitty kiwis
they're supposed to be sweet
...said Carol "on-topic" Deltarune in the undertale/deltarune general on /vg/
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>>577055302
Get out from under the desk
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>>577055302
Quit work, jerk off at home instead
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>>577055438
>>577055438
>>577055438
Hop on
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>>577055363
please touch me
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>>577055302
Watch something that strongly spikes another emotion to override lust.
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>>577054968
See you can't even comprehend that analogy, you're a waste. You're asking "show me a book with the most basic character mirrors/parallels or where we learn about a major character or lore moment primarily through indirect means over direct means" and think it's a slam dunk because you're a retard because even if I told you a really basic example most people in America have to had to read like "To Kill A Mockingbird" you'd continue to act like a retard and go "NOOO THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT THERE" because you can only think in the most rigid and literal terms that prevent you from understanding narrative elements that are hundreds of years old and around you constantly
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>>577053776
Very nice, but try posting it later on in day since that's when most Krisposters are awake
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>>577055542
okay *mechanically jacks you off while maintaining eye contact*
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>>577044542
Good things are good
MEMBER WHEN THE GAME WAS GOOD isn’t good
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>>577052058
>that pic
Kris. Susie is doing Kris.



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