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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

FUCKING FORCE COMICS INTO THIS FUCKING VIDEO GEMERANL

/sthg/ #9525 - Smash bros no more edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #16 - Between 2 Hedgehogs
https://youtu.be/-UDOIdn2lHs
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>577054841
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How do you feel about Jeff Fowler? I like most of his ideas but I don't like how he seems to be the sole reason Rouge has no live action counterpart
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>>577100126
>In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will.
Silver is a member of the hand of God confirmed
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Well? Can we escape Forttrite?
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SONAMYPLAGUEFREE BLESSED THREAD HOLY FUARKINGGGGGGGGGGG BASEDD
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>>577124017
you must really not like sonamy
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>>577124017
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Sonic loves Surge's green round butt
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i dont understand the sonamy fighting
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>>577124310
Some people just hate ships
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Sonic
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?
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>>577123786
He has good ideas but he also has some bad ones. Ugly Sonic was his idea and he was going to go through with it if there hadn't been any backlash. Also, Marza Animation had to step in and make Movie Amy look girly and cute because she originally wasn't going to be. She was originally going to look only battle hardened.
What you're seeing in picrel is because of Marza Animation taking charge and protecting Amy's character
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Silver
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Team sass
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>>577124538
I have been obsessing over the Sonic movies and their development recently and it Ugly Sonic unfortunately seems to have been his actual vision. People defend him saying it was a corporate thing but look at how these movies play out. There is an over emphasis in GUN and Aliens that would make the early 2000s games blush. Characters react to Sonic like he's terrifying to look at. Fowler clearly wanted to go with some kind of Men in Black or Lilo and Stitch style universe where it's mostly our earth being invaded by weird super powered aliens that terrify the populace
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Shadow
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Fortnite
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Tanab-
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anons, what clothes would you like to see amy in? (that aren't explicit)
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>>577124810
ninja
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>>577124656
Sauce? Absolute cinema
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Amy
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>>577124810
None. Making females make clothes while males get to be naked is sexist and oppressive.
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Metal
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y'know, if you assholes are gonna bitch and whine about Green Hill being in the Fortnite collab that some of us have been waiting legitimate years for maybe you don't fucking deserve said collab you goddamn spoiled brats
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>>577124959
alr then, what should the guys be wearing as everyday attire?
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>>577124886
Idw leaning into the fanbase current horror/eerie vibe huh
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>>577124721
Actually Fowler wanted Sonic and friends to just be from Earth but they had to follow Sega's Two Worlds mandate
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>>577125009
legitimately did people seriously expect them to not fucking use Green Hill, the most recognizable Sonic stage, in the fucking SONIC FORTNITE COLLAB, did they expect fucking Area 99 from Advance 3 or some shit
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>>577125137
Sega why
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>>577124841
https://x.com/i/status/2086900529112735819
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>>577125008
What am I looking at?
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>>577125437
>saying this while in the fucking Sonic the Hedgehog™ general
okay dude whatever you say
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>>577125009
Im fine with that, I'm more concerned about sonic's model
if it really is the same one from the last 15 years then I genuinely dont want it
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>>577125092
Nothing. Making guys wear clothes is turning them into princesses.
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>>577125437
>FNAF
2 new games
New book release
VANNY
Real world restaurant experience

Scott you treat us so well even tho everyone bitch and moaned over the restaurant news at first
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>>577124228
why do you ship these two
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Douge
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Sonamy is the most attacked ship here
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>>577125767
Douge is best in Sonic Battle.
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>>577125704
It’s hot and natural
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>start playing Sonic 1
>classical mode
>friend calls me
>has to close game
>in classical mode, your game isn't saved
And I had 20 lives to tackle labyrinth zone
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>>577125685
Please bring her back in the flesh and not one of the Mimic digital attack dogs
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>game "dies"
>becomes infinitely more fun and enjoyable to play online
Funny how that works, isn't it? Wonder what is it that finally made subhumans that unironically bragged online about chugging 4 monster a day, playing for 16 hours straight and grinding rank points to 999.999 to finally fuck off and have normal people have some fun?
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>>577125972
just fucking pause the damn game you idiot
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Hedgehog engine 3 when
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>>577125994
Vanny came from the Mimic
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>>577126070
anon this makes you sadder than most of us here and you just don't realize it
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>>577125869
it's just duofag spamming. post volume =/= popularity. knuxouge consistently wins top 3 favorite sthg ships abnd it's barely ever posted.
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>>577126129
Friend demands too much attention. He gets pissed if he hears me typing.
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>>577126445
then maybe focus on said job instead of acting like a total fucking loser here, you'd get far in life if you did so
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Sonic Battle is very well written for a Sonic game.
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>>577126223
Shut the fuck up bitch.
Apply for a janitor position or stop backseat moderating.
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>>577126195
>Asking for more boostslop
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>>577126215
>Fazebear entertainment to lazy and impatient to let game developers make there game
>solution to this problem is getting a blood thirsty hostile a.i make it for them

Fools
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why is anon such a faggot?
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>>577126972
I can't fucking help it
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(You) got what you fucking desert.
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>>577125009
Go back to twitter
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>>577126972
[pulls a dragon dildo out of each ear]
Pardon?
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Today I will reach emerald rank in Crossworlds
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>>577126972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFXl__c7mQk
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>>577125009
>Checks previous threads
>No one did
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Wanna make out?
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Do you bros like SRB2?
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>Fortnite
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>>577127692
Ye i remember playing it on my sonic fangame phase
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>>577126972
Cause it's fun i love it every single second of it
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>>577127789
Movie Sonic and his alt baddie friends doing furniture dances in celebration
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A flower for you my love
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>>577127912
Is movie sonic a tongue out, pouty face, or blank stare type? Kek
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>>577125627
>he felt called out
Not everyone is here because of the same reasons you are.
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>>577127812
which was...when?
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>>577127921
sonic is so hot
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>>577125869
>here
In general
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>>577128046
All 3 but primarily a pouty face with emphasis on his eyes
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I hope Amy fucking dies
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>>577125919
>ally
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Movienic wishing Amy was Pinkpanthress instead
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Sonamy sucks. Sonic would never slow down for Amy. He needs a girl with a big ass who can keep up with him
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This the incredibles level is better than 90% of 3d Sonic and SEGA directly copied it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7yFuQgoXTw
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>>577128335
A big ass isn't keeping up with Sonic unless he wants to be followed around by the sound of constant applause. Unless... wait, scratch that, that's exactly what he'd want.
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>>577128460
Sonic wouldn't care. He doesn't crave praise.
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I hope Amy dies fucking
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Movienic would watch Shadow plow Amy
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>>577128312
Pink being asked to do music for movie 3
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Fucking i dies Amy hope
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Has anyone noticed that a lot of korean's have gotten into idw lately? Do they have their own korean fan translation?
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>>577128218
>>577128526
https://youtu.be/4V4IEV8l-gA
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Come race to the next level
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>>577128713
I wish Amy was allowed to be as cute and girly as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIxQe1R5hs0
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>>577128251
You got a problem with that?
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I hope I die fucking Amy
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>>577129059
>douge
>battle
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archie is ooc
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>>577128713
>>577128994
This or like ILLIT
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>>577128046
>>577129661
>tongue out, pouty face, or blank stare

Huh accurate...cute tho
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>>577129661
>>577129847
They also do nyaa~ faces a lot too
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I hope you guys never stop suffering and peace because that is what you all deserve.
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>tfw the masculinity crisis skipped you

I strive to also be a cute idol
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>>577130691
Infinite...
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>>577130691
>>577130726
...
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>>577129847
>>577130254
>>577128994
This is kinda what I mean when I say "you can make Amy "more mature". You just have to do it in a way that makes sense for her character.
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>>577131570
Where is the bulge?
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>>577131558
That as long as twitter exist, this community will be fucked
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>>577131558
Being static is what SoJ wants, but not what SoA wants so I don't feel too doomer about that. Both sides are always fighting between each other for dominance.
What I wanna see is what the next person after Iizuka retires does with Sonic. That may or may not be the breaking point for me.
No offense to Iizuka, but I want someone else in charge of Sonic, and if that someone else is the same as Iizuka I don't see myself sticking around for much longer.
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>>577132021
Woah, people from the future look like this?
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>>577132005
Then why crossworlds failed
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>>577131558
Westerners, myself included, are not capable of getting all the nuances right to make a story actually feel like Sonic. We can try but there will always be some little indicator. A writing quirk or a minor cultural difference that will always make it obvious which hemisphere wrote the story. Maybe it would be the aversion to idealism or the insistence on lampshades. Even if you cut those away it is difficult to bury the intrinsic American-ness. Even if someone tried to make it feel as authentic as possible it might come across as parody.
Americans are not Japanese. An American who has grown up engaging with localized anime is still not going to perfectly portray Japanese storytelling..
The best way to mitigate this is probably to avoid overly robust dialogue.

We will always have this JP vs US diametry.
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>>577131558
>these characters that seemingly used to grow up with me
They never did.
They just changed the voices in 2011.


To answer your question, it is probably the fact that people care more about the games "having things in em" than being good and engaging, and that this is just what peoplr care about more than anything.
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>>577130726
Kek those same people literally seethed that Lalisa was the star singer for this world cup

No one is safe from this
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>>577131558
That SOA will keep fucking up things no matter what
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>>577131173
Aw she is this cute not that it seen much but eh
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>>577131558
JP purists are correct. Sega of America changes things for the worst. Ian is not a Sonic fan, he's an Archie fan. If he was given the opportunity he would turn IDW and the games into pre boot Archie without hesitation.
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>>577132190
>The other members of blackpink working there ass off meanwhile she gets all the major deals

She can't keep getting away with this Mina get her
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>>577132393
Don't forgot she's the reason for scalpers ruining our franchises
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>>577132384
The best of Sonic is a Japanese story written by Japanese writers trying to entertain Americans using American action movie tropes. It's a convoluted combination
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>>577132328
What blackpilled you to this?
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>>577132473
Even celebrities are huge nerds few as bad as us believe or not she seems to be genuinely into all that stuff

It's not her fault if people blindly follow her
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>>577131783
If 06 was a better game that fully realized Sonic's gameplay in 3D I would agree. 06 is also such a huge climactic game that any game you make after it is going to feel lesser
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>>577131558
sonic died in 06 when memphis used his laser beam thing. sonic without yuji naka and. ehm. ken penders is nothing
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>>577132384
That blend is cool though.
Even all the best western works are the ones that are the reverse. The western works inspired by eastern tropes.

The problem isnt really the blend at all. The problem is the confusion with the brand in the early 90s and then it being wrestled away by westerners just trying to turn it into bogstandard westshit in the 2010s.

Now wirh MetalVirus, the fanbase is infested with FNAFertalefags instead.
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>>577132934
Ken Penders was the heart and blood of Sonic all along
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>>577132843
No they take it out on her and other celebrities/celebs for being too influential cause that it hurts there egos

At least 2016-2018 eglord ecelebs are getting btfo
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>>577131558
The most depressing aspect of the Sonic franchise is the fanbase. While there is a boon in the modding community, well you at least know of Chris-chan.
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Am I late to the party seeing the black dragon has the same type of tail as the Sungazer clan? I really am curious what his story is, like why he's this, why Trip turns into a dragon with the same type of tail when powered by the chaos emeralds, what connection do or could the sungazers have with the chaos emeralds being the first beings introduced into canon who change so dramatically when under their power, the only others who change so rapidly when affected by the chaos emeralds would be Chaos, I'm honeslty curious if he had those emeralds again if he could be docile while being a massive sea leviathan, black doom also changes shape when under chaos emerald power into devil doom, however he took on the devil doom form again with an upgrade in shadow gens without the chaos emeralds as well, then there's Gemeral, under eggman's employ he becain this giant space sat thing, then there's metal overlord/master overlord, both forms only happened because of chaos power even if he did not have the chaos emeralds he still needed their power or hte master emerald, through I heard Sega was pretty pissed off at IDW for doing that without telling them and they got forgiven because they pointed out Mecha Sonic was able to turn into that so they thought his upgrade could too, which is why in the barnes short story they reconned Knuckles fighting super mecha sonic away, it is now considered a gameplay gimmick like hyper forms and super emeralds.

This franchise really runs off vibes, huh? ideas are spread, consistency is not, in fact consistency seems actively discouraged what a chaotic way to lead a franchise but hey, it survived 35 years so maybe that's the play, what do you guys think?
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>>577133442
The Sonic fan base is amazing. I watch fanarts and read fanfics every day, of very good quality.
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>>577133276
>Hello Soa, How do I approach the characters?
>>Sonic is cool!
>That's it?
>>Yes

>Hello SoJ, how do i approach the characters?
>>*static noise*

>writes a masterpiece the fandom still talks about today and pulls material from for their fanworks
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>>577133395
>At least 2016-2018 eglord ecelebs are getting btfo

Currently it's surprisingly Oneyplays and that one bald guy And hot sad mess in both cases lol


I don't feel too bad though overall some them deserve some criticism
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Do any of you here even play video games?
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>>577133893
Hell no, we only come here to bitch about lore, bith about media personalities and bitch about how we're stuck in this horrible horrible painful ass fanbase with no escape because of varying mental issues and sometimes goon to fapfics and porn, there's no joy here other than from the freakazoids who've been mindbroken to the point that they actively love this shit like a hentai slut whose been fucked by fat ugly ojisans too much
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>>577133893
No youtuber said it's slop tumblr bad graphics larp so I listen
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At least deltrsune fans are having fun it's nice too see Toby thrive too especially right now
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>>577133893
I play Sonic Rumble, yes.
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>>577134262
When Lars of the stars promotion starts it's over for you hoes
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>>577134427
Steven Universe biggest haters got destroyed years ago it's VAs causing a mess now
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>>577133893
yeah
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>>577131558
That Sonic is reflective of whatever happens to be popular and is just free to be changed into what is profitable at the moment. I don't intend to be around for whatever they cook for 2040 Sonic
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Markiplier once again got away with his nasty attitude... ugh stupid hot fuck
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>>577132807
When Ian was asked about Sonic and he described Sonic as a dated character using satam as an example.
He grew up on Archie. That is his Sonic. The Sonic he writes is coming from the eyes of an Archie fan who is being forced to be canon compliant, not a fan of the games.
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>>577131558
The Sonic series just changes and changes and changes and everyone either claims it was always like that or claims that the changes are for the better. And even when they go back to try to address complaints like in Sonic Frontiers, it's completely hamfisted. There's no integrity. Doesn't matter if it's the characters or the setting.
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What the hell is a "Generak"?
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>Watchmojo finally getting the boot

NOW THAT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT SONIC VIDEO THEY DROPPED ON FORCES RELEASE DAY WAS CRIMINAL
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>>577132328
>he's an Archie fan.
His version of Archie if you want to be more exact.
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>>577133442
>Chris-chan.
You keep bringing them up like anyone gives a shit.
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>>577135315
The new villain for Frontiers 2.
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>>577132384
Ngl, I really hate how people seriously compare influence of american pop culture to something bigger

that's like saying Star Wars is totally eastern because Lucas watched 1 or 2 movies
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>>577135469
>You keep bringing them up
>Them
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>>577135315
An antelope with a long neck that can stand and walk on its hind legs
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>>577135315
Enerjak
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>>577132384
I hate when people say "Sonic was always a healthy blend of Japan and America" and it is specifically to defend Smerican changes that break that alleged formula.
It is always used to defend things that were introduced by either the comics or the games that came out after 2010 If people were being honest the Adventure era would be the biggest extreme and not fucking Archie
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>>577135621
Derangement syndrome.
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>>577135735
For them, american influence is jackson boots or death egg
And on other hand you have Christmas Island and dead pilot story as allegory for Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings
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>>577135735
You are 100% correct that it is true. Same with them bringing up Sonic's relative popularity in NA compared to JP as if it matters.
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>>577135930
>Same with them bringing up Sonic's relative popularity in NA compared to JP as if it matters.
People use this without even thinking about it. The logical conclusion of this argument is that Sonic Prime and Sonic movies should dictate the canon and that the 90s american canon should never be spoken of again since they are easily the least culturally relevant Sonic cartoons collectively
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Archie, Satam, Fleetwat and Boom are the only good american sonic content
You argue they are shitty but at least they have balls to do something cool than Movies, IDW or Prime
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>>577135735
>>577135787
>>577135930
All those Ecelebs getting axed reminds me that discussing a topic like this with those same people is a death sentence

Congrats sthg you're slightly less unhinged
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>>577136108
balls don't sell in our feminine focused economy
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>>577136108
western*
fleetway is le british I mistaken
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>>577136108
Fleetway isn't american
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>>577136108
The Knuckles show is better than all three Sonic movies
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>>577135930
I remember someone remarking that Sonic never actually ranks high at all against other video game characters even in America. Like, he never makes it to the top.
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>>577135735
What formula was broken? What PART of the JP Sonic formula did US break?
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>>577131558
Shadow has friends and I won't be gaslit.
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>>577137104
Check out Lost World
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Sonic the shit.
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>>577137104
Pretty much every amarican adaptation of Sonic tries to make him an actual teenager with whatever are the current era flaws of a teenage boy and it dates those entries so hard. Movie Sonic and Satam Sonic are both shitty for the same reason
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>>577137312
What did that break? Honestly I'm more interested in the claim that early Sonic was broken by America, since not only is that false but if it weren't for America and the West in general Sonic would have been dead on arrival. But even in the case of Lost World I still have to wonder what it broke. If it's just a matter of characters being OOC at times even JP Sonic has done this.
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>>577137521
What was working that got broken? What WORKED that didn't work anymore because American Sonic broke it. That's my question. American Sonic generally did only good things to make Sonic gain traction worldwide.
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>>577137312
If lost world was released today it would be a hit
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>>577137630
I didn't know I was talking to a Sega executive. I don't care how much it sold, Sonic talking like a parody of modern children is annoying.
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>>577137556
So you're saying Sonic needed to be more obnoxious and have a mohawk to sell in america
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>>577137556
>>577137630
Sonic not being the central protagonist of his stories was better than the alternative because he makes a shitty lead You either have to give him a new flaw he never had before like Prime or reinterpret his behavior as bad like IDW and it never works.
I don't get what's so compelling to people about "fast guy learns to take things seriously and slow down"
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>>577137648
>Haha Quirky Monsters in a Quirky RANDOM World

Not even that crowd would fall for it...probably
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>>577137698
>>577137765
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>>577138004
Glad he's dead. Satam would be better off without him unironically
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>>577137905
>Sonic not being the central protagonist of his stories
When was this the case?
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>>577137648
>>577137973
Sonic Frontiers could have looked so good but no dizzy bitches
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>>577138086
Sonic never goes through a growth arc in the games so they only focus on his influence on other characters or use him for hype.
Starting in Unleashed he's the only playable character so they give him most of the screen time and there is fucking nothing to do with him except quips and aura. He sucks. Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, anybody is fucking better.
The stories of the games are all better when someone else is the core.
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>>577138004
Art like this don't do it like they used to
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>>577138004
90s American Sonic had blue eyelids you fake fucks
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Anons I am now interested in hearing what exactly you think works about Sonic, if anything.
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>>577136943
>Sonic as a brand is not carried by burgers and fries but rather burritos and frogs
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WE LOVE FORTNITE

WE LOVE FORTNITE
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>>577138004
>V Jump September BorutoTwoBlueVortex
>Jump October One Piece

November will Sonic
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>>577138708
I don't give a shit about how popular it is though. I'd like to read a Sonic comic and see a cool adventure instead of some stupid attempt at breaking down the flaws of the characters.
I don't need the english version of Frontiers trying to "fix" Amy and Knuckles.
Sonic Prime is complete and utter fucking ass and everything shitty about it is something America has always been doing with the characters.
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>>577138004
Annihilated that Asshole
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>>577138771
>just a level
Fnaf cleared yesterday
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>>577137630
Amerimutt Sonic is "Guy who has a huge ego over how cool he is"
At its worst they make him come across as an uncool class clown who wishes he was cool.
They subvert it so many times that none of the supporting cast actually think he is cool and are just playing along with him.

JP Sonic is "Guy who is cool and inspires everyone around him"
At its worst he's the fucking messiah . Everyone around him could die and get buttraped and he would still somehow come out on top
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>>577138836
No. It will Rascal.
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Cereal mascot, crossover, corporate, edgy but safe (more safe than edgy), whoring out, hello kitty kawaii, blue rat running-fast-but-releasing-slow franchise!
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>>577138708
JP Sonic is more popular than every western Sonic except movienic in every territory on earth
Sonic X is more popular in america than Satam
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>>577139093
Who are you talking to? You guys scare me sometimes.
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Amy will be in Fortnite too, screencap this
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I'll do you one better, they should stop localizing Sonic games in english and just give them subtitle.s The american writing has been absolute shit since 2010 and it only got slightly better when they brought Ian on. Ian's writing is only good without mandates and that's never going to happen so just fire everyone and make them subtitled. Americans should have no creative influence on Sonic.
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I care how successful Sonic is.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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what the fuck is wrong with the OP
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There is nothing to complain about. Archie is rightfully dead after everything it did wrong and we have IDW now.
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>>577139230
>Americans should have no creative influence on Sonic.
So you want this series to end, is basically what you're saying. You want Sonic to die.
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>>577138932
She's a good guy now righ
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>>577139282
Didn't asked, loser
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They should vault Sonic and make Sally the main character
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>>577138268
That's the reason why characters like Shadow and Silver exist, so you can have a version of Sonic that pulls more towards the darker or more heroic side of him. Which gives them more flaws which makes them able to have their own stories where they can be the main protagonist that's allowed to goe through arcs and development
Instead of forcing that upon Sonic
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I woke up dehydrated and cann't move, I feel pike sand and I think I light die
>stay hydrates
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>>577139418
Amerimutt kind of thinking
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>>577139418
What does America currently do to keep Sonic alive?
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>>577139547
I think Sonic makes a shitty protagonist. No story where it is focused on just him has ever been good.
You literally have to make him OOC for that to work
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>>577139398
>and we have IDW now.
Nice, now we have 100 issues equivalent to 10 years of comic run where nothing happens.
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>>577139564
Why are you talking like you aren't a massive autist either arguing with people about Sonic?
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>>577139673
>nothing happens.
Zombies took over the earth
Eggman created his first daughter as Mr Tinker
Neo Metal unlocked his super form
The resistance HQ was destroyed
Eggman killed three people
Silver and Blaze firmly established as regular visitors
Sonic learns that his actions may cause harm
Amy and Silver start to become more independent
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>>577139673
Mr. Nein, we had an entire season of a show where the characters warred against your clones and I felt my soul leaving my body in realtime because NOTHING HAPPENS.
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>>577139564
>>577139428
Nobody cares about american Sonic. It objectively made the games worse. Most of the story criticisms Sonic games get are people picking at shit that is only in the dubs like Sonic getting tortured for 6 months. Literally just made up. by americans because american writers are shit and ruin everything they touch
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>>577139663
That's because Sonic is not meant to be the protagonist in his stories, Sonic is at his best when helps to inspire change toæ the people around him
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>>577139817
Archie and Fleetway accomplished more in less years.
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>>577139494
Vanessa only freed her mind of the persona Vanny still chilling in VR/AR world

It's likely a "wear mask to trick the Mimic but where it too long and Vanny might take over"
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>>577139951
The whole universe exploding because of mandates is not an accomplishment
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>>577139547
>That's the reason why characters like Shadow and Silver exist, so you can have a version of Sonic that pulls more towards the darker or more heroic side of him
Both Shadow and Silver are competing in the same area of a flawed hero doing good and wrestling with things Sonic doesn't. Silver doesn't actually work if he tries to be on the light side of Sonic because such a thing is nonsense
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sonic is a japanese franchise made for japanese children first, you're a guest in this hobby.
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>>577139914
You did a piss poor job convincing me, but you do you.
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>>577139817
>Zombies took over the earth
Nothingburger solved in a bubble.
>Eggman created his first daughter as Mr Tinker
therapy slop and everyone hates pinocchio but girl.
>Neo Metal unlocked his super form
Only interesting thing but he did nothing after that.
>The resistance HQ was destroyed
Lasted like a fart and nobody cared.
>Eggman killed three people
Anyways...
>Silver and Blaze firmly established as regular visitors
Good for those shipniggers and characterfags.
>Sonic learns that his actions may cause harm
OOC
>Amy and Silver start to become more independent
Love my therapy.

Archie did better even the destruction of knot-hole.
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>>577139652
>The games are written by westerners first now
>The IDW comics are 60% of what this whole fandom even talks about these days
>The movies are probably half Sonic's revenue these days
>Had to recruit fans from the West to actually help port, maintain, and sometimes even help make or outright make the games
>TV shows, marketing, social media, etc.
At this point they're carrying most of the load.
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>>577140089
Japanese Sonic is so popular that the third (best) Sonic movie is just a constant ripoff of its themes
American Sonic is so unpopular that the shittiest Sonic story is the one where they tried to introduce American Sonic traits
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'murica sonic, pretty cool dude
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>>577139798
I'm not lulzing I feel like a deadry turtle and cant get up
have sone sympathy you jerk
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>>577140096
>made for japanese children first,
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>>577140118
>OOC
People who use this as an insult against IDW aren't very smart. IDW is thoroughly vetted by Sonic Team of japan.
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>>577140126
You're only right about the movies. And IDW's relevance is quite literally artificial lol.
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>>577140245
>Company in Japan makes game for japanese audience
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>>577140219
woops anon you didn't replied to him, let me help you
>>577140097
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does idw seriously need so much fucking therapy
i swear to god you can open an idw comic and immediately see therapy
therapy is good, you should take care of yourself but i don't want to read about therapy
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>>577140284
>this is true
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>>577139494
Is that a hand under her boobs???
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>>577140246
Sonic team doesn't even know how the characters are supposed to act it's why forces was so atrocious to watch.
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>>577140187
You drank again, didn't you Fiona?
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>>577140219
Brother, you're clearly seething because I called out on your bullshit trying to pass yourself off as the "normal one" in a general about motherfucking Sonic the Hedgehog.

Like I said, you do you, buddy lol.
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>>577140146
The shittiest Sonic story is 06.
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>>577140497
06 is an archie game
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Sonic Boom literally almost killed the franchise.
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The comics are OOC and misunderstand the characters. Only shippers like them
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IDWfags can't even defend their own lesbian fanfiction without resorting to "it's canon and supervised" while around the corner BoC sonic is another fucking person, and yet you should expect the same mandates.
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JP Sonichads literally make niggas blow a gasket just by existing. Based.
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>>577140439
mayyyyyyybe. -_-;;
is it silly to dial 991 to get someone to bring me water from my frige
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Shut up, fi'
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>>577140780
>is it silly to
yes.
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>>577140373
>Sonic can't cry because it hurts my big boy pants
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>>577140752
IDW is canon and it's supervised. Those are good arguments, what's your problem? It isn't like Archie where they just did whatever they want. Tangle is even mentioned in Sonic Frontiers.
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IDW is actually about Sonic unlike how a certain comic was the Sally show and you couldn't go anywhere without Sally in it.
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Silver and the Shield of Fear.
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>>577140408
No also there's no boobs there's anyway it's just some unknown entity puppeting one of Vanessa fursuit
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>>577140981
They're not good arguments because they don't touch on the quality of said and supervision, it's just an appeal to authority.
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>>577140980
FUCK YOU
I EVEN LIKE THE MOVIES DICKFUCK
I DON'T WANT TO READ TAILS GIVING SPEECHES TO KNUCKLES
I DON'T CARE IF THEY CRY I DON'T WANT TO READ A FUCKING THERAPY CIRCLE SCENE IN EVERY ISSUE
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>>577140942
ah.
>>577140884
i'n die, fucked (you) forever
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>>577141054
At least sally and her backstory added to the institutional and military drama, what is lanolin doing outside being overworked for le epic fan appeal?
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@577141264
>Yes I like furry soap operas
>I like plots that are all about Sally and none about Sonic
>I love plots where Sally kisses every man
>I love plots where the main drama is who breaks up with who
>I love plots where Sonic acts like a harem protagonist and makes out with every woman
>I love OOC characters who act nothing like they did in the games
>I love random OCs that are forced in
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If you like the Archie universe you can read the Shadow Files!
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If you like Archie you don't respect Sonic
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>>577141371
Coward, reply to me directly instead of strawmanning even your grandma.
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>>577140639
The movies are made by people that had to be yelled at to make the main character aesthetically appealing. The comics are references and feelingsslop targetted at chronically online autists instead of decent action for kids. The games are barely passable and are utterly reliant on the movies and crossovers because they lost all direction after 2009. Westerners have been able to gain power because the japanese flinch with their tails between their legs when they were being hit with anger for every other stupid fucking decision they made between Heroes and Colors. Sonic almost died because everyone involved with the franchise is incompetent
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>>577141441
But the wiki told me not to because he is a mean poopoo man who felt hisbwork was abused by our jesus who wrote the borble.
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>>577136108
>boom
>cool

Anyways as for the rest, you literally just like it because its different from.the games, but something bogstandard and familiar.
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@577141514
>Anti-Japanese sperging from an Amerimutt
Without Japan we wouldn't have video games.
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I can tell you are thinking you are smart when you do that to me. I kind of like it. It shows how inferior you are to my mind. C:
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>>577137905
All thr best Sonic stories feature Sonic as the main character.
The problem isn't him being the main character. The problem is people having rigid ideas of what a main character can be or should be.
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Hmofa
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>>577141589
>>577141631
JUST KISS ALREADY
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>>577141757
This sort of shit gives Sonic the autistic reputation it has.
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>>577141043
I wis-ACK!

STHG IT'S ALL UP TO NOW FINISH IT
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>>577140780
No WAY, Fox! 991 is for REEL emergencies!
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>>577141916
if this was in muttmerica you would be shot asking a cop for help
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>>577141869
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>>577138268
Sonic goes through arcs in his best stories in the games. They are just flat arcs rather than positive ones.

SA2 and BK are the most loved Sonic stories because of this.

People find Sonic more on the boring side when he is completely static. (Yes there is a distinction.)
>>577139547
Shadow's more loved story is 06 and he is a flat character in it like Sonic.

Silver's story is actually him trying and failing to go through a negative arc and thr story treats it as a good thing, so its a flat arc as well.

People who harp on about radical change in the characters are pseuds who drank the IDW Kool-aid from Ian's podcasts.
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>i love my therapy slop
>Oh and when sonic has doubts and is insecure like me irl?
>Oh and the well elaborated sonic philosophy that is worse than batman's no kill rule?
>Oh and the destruction of the restoration, a place that did nothing issue after issue?
>Oh, and the yet another green rival with the same power of sonic but she got daddy issues with her creator?
>Oh and the gay cuck duck?
>Oh and the "butt-kicking" crying lesbians with no reason to exist and muh heckin' background characters which are someone's trans OC
>And don't forget the pinocchio!
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>>577142079
>browntails
possible!
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Penis haha!
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>>577139817
>Zombies took over the earth
Okay
>Eggman created his first daughter as Mr Tinker
Ok
>Neo Metal unlocked his super form
Not a thing.
>The resistance HQ was destroyed
Instantly rebuilt offscreen. It didnt matter.
>Eggman killed three people
No he didn't.
>Silver and Blaze firmly established as regular visitors
This isnt a good thing nor did it need "establishing"
>Sonic learns that his actions may cause harm
Why are we acting like he didn't know this before? I hate metashit like this so much.
>Amy and Silver start to become more independent
Amy and Silver were already independant.
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@577142246
Yeah we get it. You're an edgy boy. Emotions are bad and scary to your big boy mind.
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Mlem
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STOP WITH THE NIGGAONE POSTS YOU HOMOSPAMMER
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>>577141256
>Tangle and Whisper being lesbians together was literally approved by ST themselves
They actually aren't because Sega and ST arent allowing romance.
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This is no longer a sonic thread, we can post whatever we want
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>>577142079
Unless little bastards * sthg screeching from the epic but accidental fail i found the strength to get rid of everyone *


Canon ending
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Let's have a real conversation.

I'll start.
Let's discuss "relatability" in fiction and how its a bad metric for good character writing and doesnt actually mean what people claim it means.
In fact its very narcissistic.
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>>577141696
Konohmaru killing his plant gf
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>>577142826
I'd like to see you try to make this place as terrible as the halo general
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>>577141916
That's too useful to be a Sonic Sez segment.
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*starts to abstract*
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>>577143237
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>>577143062
what that lil nigga playing
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>idw era
>dark age for /sthg/
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>>577143470
Clown pussy
Clussy if you will
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>>577143237
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>>577143531
Hmm wait gonna look up a guitar cover for pic related curious how that sounds
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>>577143523
She's a pierrot, though.
The difference is pierrots have a breeding fetish.
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>>577143443
Wizardry!
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The Amazing Digital Mental Hospital
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ALL RIGHT NOBODY MOVE, THIS IS A STICKUP
>Isn't that Honey?
"Isn't that Honey" NO I'M HER GUATEMALAN TWIN SISTER GUNEY AND I WANT MONEY OR CUNNY...OR ELSE!
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>>577129661
Wait I'm digging their music rn
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Speaking of TADC, did you liked the ending?
I didn't, too much un answered questions, and Jax should have suffered even MORE
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Blazefags on suicide watch
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*hides your post*
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>>577144179
why?
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>>577144179
actually kool
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People acting like Sonic's character wasn't established are so annoying. That's literally Black Knight Sonic but the text is from Sonic 1 manual
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>"that anon" had a heart attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXXi5bt8yk
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>we have kpoptards shitting up this thread
Remember when this general was about Sonic?
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>>577144434
>People
Satamfags do it. It's specifically satamfags. They act like every last one of the things that was known about Sonic wasn't contradicted by that show.
They will pretend that you're talking about the manga or something instead of the actual fucking video game
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>I'm canon
>what do you mean with "nobody cares" I'm CANON dude
>let me pass please... HEY! DON'T THROW ME AWAY LIKE THAT!
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tell me what value canon has in selling me a Sonic game with good gameplay and a decent story
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>>577144775
This isn't a general, it is a generak, that makes us an evolved species you jpopeasant.
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The awful disappointment of the perfect male hedgehog NSFW art but the artist gave him (her) a pussy so the entire thing is ruined.
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>>577145195
it's the perfect opportunity to learn how to edit images
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>>577145068
Shut your fucking ass up
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>>577144334
Why not?
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>>577144450
Keikaku doori
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Wasn't someone from here going to fanfiction and leaving comments criticizing them for being ooc
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do black hedgehogs really do this https://files.catbox.moe/qa7fpp.jpeg
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Just shut sonic down and close /sthg/ays
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Sad that the reason Silver changed voice actors was because a stalker was trying to get Quinton Flynn canceled for harassment and he was given a protective court order after it was discovered
Imagine losing your career because of random online comments
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>>577146198
GO TO CO YOU ARCHIESIHTTER
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you all are fucking with fucking sonic's fucking reputation and i fucking hate you fucking faggots for it
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>>577146198
Just shutting down the comicfags would be an improvement
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>>577142109
How do you think Silver tried to go through an arc but failed? i think i can sorta get what you mean but i am not sure on what the phrasing implies, care to explain?
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Are Sonic Live concerts autism free?
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>>577146479
Yes do it, comics were a mistake and a ponzi scam.
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>>577146074
>This image can't be displayed because it contains errors
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>>577146609
i went to one. it was nice but no not autism free. someone was gurgling right behind me the entire time and a bloke in front of me kept moaning
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>>577140497
it really isn't.
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Im plying Bloons 6 as we speak
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X56KXW77G24
Do you remember the other shows that were on 4kids with Sonic X?
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your spamming is making me want to a kick a hole in my wall
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You have been CNC'd!
Post 5 shadamy to unCNC yourself and pass it to the next anon!
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PINGAS
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PINGGER
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>>577148543
FUCKING STOP
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IM ABOUT TO FUCKING LOSE MY MIND
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what happens when iizuka retires?
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What happens when I stop caring about Sonic?
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>>577149150
You will die.
Never stop running.
Or the moon will eat (You).
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>>577149396
>starline reincarnates as the blown side of the moon
>rouge gets vored
this is beats anything made by exefags ez
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NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT SPAM A GENUINELY GOOD SMART CHARACTER INSTEAD OF THE AWFUL BLAND PEDO TRANNYBAIT FURFAGGOT FOX
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>>577149718
Who are you talking to?
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>>577146683
>eggman dressed like an obelisk blue duel academy girl
but why?
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Thinking man's ship
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>>577146505
Silver's story is basically him being pushed towards being a realist instead of an optimist. And it ends in him not being able to go all the way, and the stpry says that his optimism is good, actually.
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>>577149396
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Where is Krack tho
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Where is Duo tho
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>>577151265
getting her krack klogged
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>>577150194
because Eggman is pure sex
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>>577146624
I AM THE EGGMAN

I AM THE WALRUS
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Where is Realdash tho
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>I am so bored. how about i summon one of the funny namefags to make thread go schzio?
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>>577147418
I remember Ultraman was one of them for some reason.
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Where is Sparky tho
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>>577149150
Nothing cause that's never going to happen
You're mind can't escape the hog
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why'd he do it
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Dogfucking thread
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>>577131558
>>577131783
>>577132005
>>577135445
>samefag replied to his own post multiple times before getting banned
you love it when you see it https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/577123596/#q577131558
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WWYD in htis situation?
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Where is alota tho
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>>577152161
>Pure your soul into something
>Live to see soneone else ruin your work
You might not like him or his stories, but it's relatable.
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Gi anon, why half of the thread was deleted?
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We have janitors?
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>>577153062
Just to make posts like >>577152496 that call out anon's schizodation.
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>>577152161
He didn't.
Kenny Penny did nothing wrong.
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Penders' holocaust poem was kind of offensive and it offended me, don't get what he was thinking
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>>577153541
Shut it kike
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>>577153453
>killed SatAM's resurrection
>killed original archie
>killed sonic chronicles
he contributed to sabotaging sonic but he didn't kill sonic. bad games and autistic fandom did
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Sonic lives in your head rent free
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>>577152283
>>577152447
upload your boy folder, krack
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>>577152963
Made for red echidnas
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dead general
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>>577153715
I thought Krack's husbando was Shadiw, why she changed him for Infinite?
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>>577153624
Chronicles was the first unsubtle attempt to bring Archietism to the games. The sabotage was a valiant effort but it only bought us some time as the remnants crawled into through the IDW backdoor.
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>>577153794
We need to repopulate it
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>>577153624
No one complains about mariofags despite them being worse and more obnoxious. No one complains about pokefags who want to fuck the pokemon and trainers. Why do we get the auitstic reputation?
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>>577153841
sonamybestie shut the fuck up.
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>>577153824
hate-fucking
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dead internet
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>>577153915
We are universally known as the "autism magnet" franchise. it happened at some point that we got labelled as such. mario and pokemon are universally loved by normied and are too big that the autism gets diluted.
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>>577153339
It's a grown ass adult 'hog, they're bad and they should feel bad
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>>577153915
the 00s and early 10s, sonic youtubers making videos like "top 10 hottest sonic girls", sammy, cwc, deviantart, fandom wars, shipping faggotry, etc.
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>>577153624
>>killed SatAM's resurrection
He didnt but SatAM isnt Sonic anyway.
>killed original archie
Ian did that by turning it into fanfiction.
>killed sonic chronicles
Chronicles likely got dropped well before anything to do with Ken Penders lol.
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>>577150358
Umm your naivety is cute :^)))

We don't really see silver a lot to see how being flat plays out for him in the long run. I think he had an arc about not jumping conclusions straightforwardly? Like amy and shadow push him to search for other ways.
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>>577153931
Wouldn't a sonamyfag WANT Chronicles to be canon??
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>>577153915
>>577154085
Also doesn't help that Sonic have lot of bad to mid games with a lot of weird cringy shit in them that people laugh at
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member liminal spaces?
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>>577154210
top 10 hottest characters, deviantart fetishes, shipping and wars over it are nothing unique to sonic, they existed for everything big. the only unique thing i can think is maybe the jp en split to this degree.
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>>577154442
not really lol
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I, am Steve
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>>577154409
>Chronicles likely got dropped well before anything to do with Ken Penders lol.
Funny thing, that "History of Sonic" book that dropped the "Unleashed was a continuation of the old SA3 project" bombshell seemingly held out hope that Chronicles 2 would happen.
>Page 209: "BioWare stated that they were ready to develop Sonic Chronicles 2. However, such a sequel has yet to materialize."
This was 2012.
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>>577135735
>>577135867
>>577135930
>>577136035
>>577137630
Stop being a contrarian and go back to Twitter you jap tard.
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I hate Japan
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>>577154409
>He didnt
He did. by sabotaging Ben's movie pitch
>SatAM isnt Sonic anyway.
kys and die.
>Chronicles likely got dropped well before anything to do with Ken Penders lol.
>>577156103 + they wanted to make knuckles and shade make echinda babby on angel island. there's even a japanese manga where shade patronized knuckles. someone post it because it's lost in my big downloads folder.
and penders did cause og archie's. og archie and chronicles were a double kill
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>>577156527
Where do you get your video games
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>>577154417
In the last story, we see it when he chooses not to give up and comes up with the idea to use Elise to save Sonic.
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>>577156545
a video game store that sells pirated PS2 games like a normal person
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Serious question why can't japs stop playing the victim?
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>>577154442
Yes.
>>577155259
Why did you go out of your way to bully Amy?
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>>577156641
Where do video games come from though?
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>>577156534
The fact that Shade got her own manga should tell you they were disturbingly(?) balls-deep in making Knuckles her mate.
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>>577156534
>He did. by sabotaging Ben's movie pitch
He didn't.
>kys and die.
You first.
>>577156534
>they wanted to make knuckles and shade make echinda babby on angel island
They said "it would be possible".
You people leap to conclusions on everything. The goal was just to bring the echidnas back and anything after would be the "having the potential for it". Including the idea of a theoretical sequel series after Argus was defeated.
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>>577156876
>That's my OC, Julie-Su. since you lost my contract you can no longer prove your ownership therefore you have to pay me some good money if you want knuckles to have a bad echidna wife
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>>577156876
So they were likely going to go with Shadouge instead? was the manga hinting at any potential romantic or any kind of significant bond hints at all?
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I'm glad Archie died because it gave us Surge. Now they can set up Surge with Blaze and let Silver have a romance with an actually good person.
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>>577156808
>>577156545
Better question; why are you getting videogames to begin with? They are godawful nowadays, all of it.

We have indies now nowadays most of which are western ;).
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>>577157308
But who popularized video games and innovated them? Hint: It wasn't the west.
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>>577156575
hmm, i think his main ''flaw'' was that he jumped to conclusions too quickly, but then also flip flopped between being too hesistant because of his consciousness at the same time.

i ve seen criticism that the story never concludes on the morality of killing an innocent person to save hte world actually being adressed but i also don't think it was the point of his story
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>>577157307
They aren't really going to drop the Silver/Blaze association. The Sonic channel wallpaper with glasses and the idw issues upcoming are setting up further establishing it if anyhting.
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>>577157147
shadow and rouge were not there. The manga was short and it was mostly shade beating everyone up till she saw knuckles and then she was "AWOOOGA"
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Sonic but its Half Life
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>>577157378
Nintendo? Duh.
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>>577156876
Shade being a Bioware creation and not Sonic Team would makes her less important on the Sonic character totem pole
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>>577156876
It's not fair. He is a proud Echidna warrior. He should continue a strong Echidna lineage with his wife of conquest.
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>>577157378
Insanely delusional youre being if you're really implying it was SEGA and not Nintendo to salvage the crash shovelware epoch.
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>>577156876
>>577157725
If they wanted Shade to be Knuckles "Amy" then they should had made her light blue
Like how Sonic is blue to Amy's light red
I don't know if there is any hard rule on Echidnas always needing to a shade or red
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Knuckles would be real upset about this whole thread if he could read.
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>>577157859
I'm saying Japan as a whole revived video games. But Sega is the reason why sixteen bit came out.
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>>577158060
Do the other romantic/shipbait ''pairs'' made by Sonic Team follow a specific color theory?
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>>577124886
>>577125118
I'd like to see more horror in Sonic but genuine horror, not safe edgy horror. Those evil clones that Dr. Starline made of the Core 4 is basically existential horror
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>>577158210
Silver and Blaze doesn't but Blaze colors was designed around Sonic, Silver's colors are meant to be the inverse of Shadow
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>>577157308
>japan
>innovative
Kek
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>>577158382
Just wait until they canonize sonic.exe in this year's Halloween release.
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>>577157410
Silver can be impulsive but the story isnt really about that. Its abput the question of sacrificing someone you care about or not. Silver originally is okay with taking out Sonic for the future, but reconsider when he sees how it affects Amy. Then he finds out how to seal Iblis himself, but can't. Blaze then does it and asks him to send her away, but he ultimately cant bring himself to do it and Blaze tells him that him being that way is good actually. And then she does it herself.

>i ve seen criticism that the story never concludes on the morality of killing an innocent person to save hte world actually being adressed but i also don't think it was the point of his story
Its not really the point. The point is Silver's relationship with the idea of the giving someone up for the future.
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>>577157641

Dougefag...
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>>577158771
i am not dougefag. i don't even like shadouge
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>>577158551
Hmm, there's ''White day'' in japan which is a day where boys give reciprotal gifts to the girls in response to girls giving valentines day gifts.

Since silver is blaze's amy rather than the reverse, it could be seen as the male version of pink and red being associated with valentines day. though this is probably more of a coincidence with being inverse shadow that kinda works out rather than him being specifically designed around that.

what about knuxouge/shadouge shadria tailsmo etc. ? I'm a drawfag thats looking to improve so how color theory works out for character dynamics is something i would be interested in.
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>>577158913
shitdow the only who knows how to handle the franchise?? Put Silver the Hedgehog in there!
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>>577159182
year of the silver coming after year of the blaze, which is coming after year of the knucks, after year of the tails, and after year of the ameys
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>>577159045
Shadow and Rouge work color theory wise since black is a masculine color while white is a feminine color like Zekrom and Reshiram
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>>577158637
I am not sure what to make of 06's ''should you sacrifice the one you love or no'' narrative, Amy and Rouge are portrayed in the right for it, but the Duke and Elise are portrayed as wrong, Silver isn't portrayed as wrong but Blaze had to do it anyway, I am not sure why there's two Iblis when the story is moreso a closed causal loop.
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Shipping is mental illness
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>>577160181
You know that Silver has a way higher chance of getting a year than Blaze, don't kid yourself
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>>577160348
It would be the reverse with Yin being feminine and Yang being masculine tho no? although i suppose Sonic series associates lighter colors or theme of light in general moreso with feminine. Even silver is a bit feminized through indirect means like glasses.

Do orange and green relate at all
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>>577160502
I know, but I hope. I also hope for a year of the eggman
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>>577160628
Orange and green are a part of the Secondary Colors along with purple, which is what the Chaotix and Babylon Rogues are
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Let me remind you that Sonic is married to this gremlin.
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You are ignoring the fleetway storytime
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>>577161020
Shady want borgor!
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>>577124810
Her detective outfit from Sonic X. Also, imagine Sonic's reaction if he saw Amy wearing her princess dress from Sonic X
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>>577161096
>NOTE: Surge died on the way back to her home planet
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>>577161096
it should have been meeeeee
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Dead general thanks to you know who
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shade when echidna hunk who can back flip
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Which two characters do you think look good next to each other? it doesn't have to be shipping, and it doesn't even have to be two charas necessarily associated with each other, just two charas you think aesthetically look good to each other
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Tails when sees cocks big human cocks
*picture of tails blushing.jpg*
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>>577162839
Surge and Sonic of course
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>>577161020
I don't know why people are so obsessed with needing Maria to be more "Robotnik". Her being a part of the Robotnik family is a small part of her character but it's not the entire point of her character or her design. She is meant to be like a holy figure, a pure, sweet, optimistic and innocent girl that represent all the good about humanity and acts as Shadow's moral compass. She is designed the way she is to reflect her character and themes, not her family lineage
Besides she is shown to be smart and into science which is enough proof of her being a Robotnik
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>>577162839
surge and blaze. next question
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>>577163131
>Her being a part of the Robotnik family is a small part of her character
Sonic being fast isn't important for his character either
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You know for Surge being so "popular", SoJ sure doesn't seem to give her much attention
Could it be that Surge isn't as popular as the vocal minority make her out to be
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>>577163630
SoJ doesn't matter.
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>>577162839
cnc + shipping tax free
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>>577163389
Sonic being fast is already visually conveyed in his design with how his spines are shaped like he's ready to run
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>>577163131
It doesn't need to be science, but she should be a "genius" in something. If I'm not wrong, her father was an archaeologist, for example.
Also, she doesn't need to have something physical to show that she is a Robotnik, but if it were to expand her in some way, she would have something that resembles the rest of the family. It could be from just being a genius in something, to being obsessed with something, or even when she snaps, going into a full, cruel mode. Well, not saying it should be that, but just as examples. Also, people can have fun too.
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>>577162839
I vote for Metal and Amy. The blue and pink just go together so well.
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>>577163969
>if it were to expand her character
fix'd
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>niggerdow
Stick with rouge the whore.
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>>577164104
no. no. nope. hair mustaches are fine, but do not make her fat!
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>>577163763
>The people that actually controls this franchise don't matter
SoJ giving IDW the license to make a Sonic comic is why Surge even exists at all
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Tails!
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>>577164283
Well no shit, Sherlock. The only reason you have somewhere to live is because someone sold you a house or your landlord still won't kick you out.
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>>577164379
Oddly erotic
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>>577163969
>but if it were to expand her in some way
She is fucking dead
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>>577164283
SoJ think things like
>deadly six
>sonic 06
>sonic boom (games)
>fortnite
>forces
are good ideas.
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^-^
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>>577164441
Sonic characters die and come back all the time. If Shadow really wanted her back, he could find a way. He's just lazy.
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>>577164380
Unlike a landlord, Sega can take back the Sonic license from IDW whenever they want if they no longer want to work with them anymore or if they find a better publisher
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>>577164441
Yet they did the whole Shadow Generations thing. They also could add more information about the time they were on the Ark and other things. But I bet they would say that"since she was sick, she never had time to nurture her talent".
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Shitdow the Lazyhog
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>>577164718
A landlord can also kick you out once the lease expires if they no longer want to have you as a tenant.
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<3
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>>577164283
>>577164380
>>577164718
The state can take your intellectual property whenever they want.
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>>577165113
But they can never take my headcanon.

Silver x Rouge forever!
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>>577165262
They can take your head without the canon, doe.
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Cute boy
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>>577165262
Silver actually getting to experience real boobs for once, good for him
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>find a "Sonic creepypasta"
>that is NOT Sonic.exe
>"nice"
>start listening
>expect something like "sonic has actually been captured years ago and the games are him dreaming a better life"
>it's about Sonic Adventure 2
>it's about a "secret Maria theme"
>"what"
>when you have it turned on, it flashes pictures of dead Maria, or even worse, Maria naked on all fours
>"oooh yea- I MEAN, oh no!"
>comes with weird text too
>everyone does it, geralt
>they come at me
>then they come in me
>my butt hurts, Geralt
>I can't walk, Geralt
>why did you drug me, Geralt
>whatthefuck.jpg
It was a disappointing pasta. It felt more like a pedophile fantasy "hey i'm in space with a little girl" trying weakly to pass as a creepypasta.
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>>577164585
I think thematically they want the duo to be tragic rather than a Sonic and Tails
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>>577164048
Foid sonic fans be like what if sonic was a psychopathic gay homosexual?
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>>577165693
I know what you meant, but the first thing that popped into my mind was Maria floating around Shadow with her butt out and some Eggman-esque robot tails keeping her aloft.
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lol
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>>577157147
Sonamy has
>early Shogakukan manga (Nicky but it counts)
>Sonic X ending (inexplicit but strongly hinted in Japanese)
Knuxouge has
>Sonic X ending (offscreen implied sex when their playful banter turns to smooching noises)
Amy and Rouge only 'lose' in
>Preboot Archie (alternate futures)
Shade would've had an uphill battle unless they were about to unashamedly copy Archie.
*BONUS! Sonic 2006 (which didn't happen) has strong shades of
>Sonelise (the player can choose if this is romantic or if Sonic would rather Sonamy so it's almost moot but still notable)
>Shadouge ("I'll always remain by your side" is the eternal 'douge line)
Archie romances? Lost!
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https://files.catbox.moe/z1rhsl.jpg
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I like Silver cause he has the colors of mint toothpaste
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Probably not the intention but it feels like he accidentally clicked on a porn site lmao
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>>577166774
You should've had her cover his eyes while making an 'o' face.
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>>577166689
Looking at Silver makes me think 5 Gum
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>>577166439
Sonamy already is the default closest to actually ''canon'' ship anyway. 06 and a lot of the newer content after X trying to hint at shadouge instead and Shade being pushed before the penders booting made me wonder if Knuxouge was trying to be actively replaced by Knuxade or if this is people reading too much into it.

Sonelise doesn't count imo even if the narrative was undeniably romantic cuz the whole conflict is that Sonic and Elise's relationship has to be completely erased for the Solaris causal loop to end. I don't think they designed her to be a permanent gf or permanent character of any sort.
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>>577167317
>Sonamy already is the default closest to actually ''canon'' ship anyway.
Sonic doesn't love Amy and Amy is already moving on from him. She considers Sonic a good friend.
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>>577166689
>>577167062
Silver based mints products would be nice because of his cyan colors but then again they rather use Tails since he likes mint so never mind
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>>577166439
Who's that pink thing?
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>>577167428
Sega did not allow Ian to do that, it's there to stay with possibly being watered down in localizations for americans.

this is duofag anyway but the localization changes don't mean much in the long run
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>>577166675
>>577166774
Ffucckkkk why don't more women molest boys
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>>577167609
Not your boogeyman bestie
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Remember, all it took for Amy to fall in love with someone else was some mildly fast, buck-toothed squirrel talking like a mid-90s surfer dude.
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>>577167750
Boom Amy is a different beast all together
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>>577167750
Boom Scourge
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>>577167609
her new bio survives to this day so it's now a hard fact and not some "ian fanfic" and it's the japs who will give in this time because they don't know how to sell sonic
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>>577166439
>Archie romances
Do we count the Sonally kiss in the SatAM finale as a win for their ship or not? The series wasn't supposed to end there, and didn't she hand kisses out likes candy?
(Was Sonic Christmas Blast supposed to merge AoStH and SatAM together by showing that Sonic and Sally went steady?)
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>>577167576
That's Knuckles' sister or niece or something. I think they fuck later.
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>>577168221
following the same logic yes
following some anons preferences no
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>>577168070
IDW still has her doing her antics or visibly crushing on sonic even if it's dialed down, in the tailstube episode with silver, she's angry at tails that it isn't sonic etc. it will be watered down but it's there to stay just sanitized

the only western product that sells more than the japanese equivalent is movie sonic, IDW, archie, boom etc. didn't sell. Sonic selling in the west isn't equivalent of western products selling better
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>>577168070
Changing Amy's love to just friends doesn't make Sonic sell more, it just make Amy a weaker character
It's only done because they don't like Amy
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>>577167609
I'm sick of the localization changes. I don't want Ian's subversive writing to be watered down. I want it to be completely corrected
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>>577168256
Cousins!
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>>577168540
idw is just evan's fanfic so meh who cares
>>577168550
it's gone, chief. give up. find a new hobby
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>>577168803
>idw is just evan's fanfic so meh who cares
SoJ cares. They canonized it.
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>>577168803
It's still there in Tailstube, and idw is, as much as i don't like it ''canon'' the influence it has on the games will be stronger as time passes whether we like it or not
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>>577169019
nah. they don't care as long as you don't do certain things. and that you are not using Shadow.
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>>577168221
Sonic's endgameship was meant to be Nicole, while Sally may've been swayed by Knuckles or some other new rival (Ben's plans weren't clear)
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>>577169187
i've seen that ben hurst video and no it wasn't.
>they hug then they feel awkward
but not a ship confirmation
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>>577169060
As if Sonic Team is gonna think about the IDW comic canon when they are making a new game, they are just gonna do whatever they want like they always do and it will be IDW that has to conform to whatever Sonic Team does
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>>577169060
If Amy's love for Sonic isn't being watered down in the Japanese dialogue and media, then I don't want it watered down in the English dialogue and media. Period.
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>>577166439
Don't forget Miles! He gets tail in
>Preboot with Mina in altfuture
>Boom with Zooey
gets blueballed in
>Preboot (main timeline) by Fiona
>X (inadvertantly) by Cosmo
and rejects(???) someone in
>Boom (Perci)
or he cheated...
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>>577170182
Idk, Tangle and Whisper are getting out of IDW purgatory slowly.
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>>577170359
Didn't Surge and Kit pop up in the Sonic gacha game too?
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>>577160181
>year of the silver coming after year of the blaze

PFFFHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH
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>>577160409
Duke and Elise fucked with Solaris to undo her mother's death. Shadow is offered to get retribution on humanity over what they did in therapist and what they eill do in thr future. Silver is offered to change the past but instead fixes his future.


Fits into the series themes of dealing with your grief and pain instead of trying to put it on others.
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>>577170592
keep laughing, gator. you'll never get a year of the vector.
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>>577168256
ALABAMAAAAAAAAA
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Year of Big
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>>577169693
We only see the first act and get select highlights of the rest, from the sound of it Sonic and Sally were going to keep butting heads at least because he's too windy for her.
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>shipping
Die westie
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>>577163131
Same autism that makes people insist Amy needs Sonic's nose hair and backspines, and to change her outfit to something jocklike....even tho Sonic isnt a jock.
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Go to the fleetway storytime thread
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>>577171196
bro sonic and sally made out at least 2 or 3 times through the show. and they do it in public...
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>>577163630
She isn't. She is less popular than Tangle and Whisper.
But her conception is popularity-bait.
In a couple years she will climb the way Scourge and Blaze did.
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>>577164031
This!
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>honoring Silvers anniversary
They never gave merch to Blaze on her anniversary and they keep giving merch to him?
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>>577171881
You guys wanted them to be seperate, this is what becomes of it if they are seperate.

that being said i believe Blaze will get her time, this is a test water preparing for Silver's push as soa switched their opinions on what to push
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>>577171625
That's cute, is it from Speed Battle?
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>>577171881
>sonic oh-six was TWENTY YEARS AGO
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>>577160181
>year of the silver coming after year of the blaze
Just this day alone he had:
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>>577171881
What did Blaze have this year? or the year prior?
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>>577162839
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>>577171625
is this from "Cream does anal for the first time"?
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>>577171576
I don't know why Tangle and Whisper is even popular at all beyond these are the new characters they want to shill. I understand why IDW fans like them because they already attached to the comic but for everyone I don't get it
They are very generic design wise and personality wise. I've read enough IDW to find them boring
At least Surge and Kit has cool factor to them but Tangle and Whisper just reeks of lame tumblr bait
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>>577171625
SEXOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>577172386
>I understand why IDW fans like them because they already attached to the comic but for everyone I don't get it
For me, because I saw a lot of fanarts of them. Through I don't "really" like them. Tangle is apparently a manipulative, insensitive bitch, and Whisper is like Peter Parker: she's not allowed to get over her issues.
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Why was Mania Team kicked out?
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>>577172045
>i believe Blaze will get her time
Why do you believe so? her only push is now from an IDW arc every single one of her fans hate so it's going to go badly, what can she do anymore?
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>>577172056
Its AI
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>>577168550
I dont even need Amy to be "Sonicsonicsonic!" all the time. I just need her to be open and even proud about it.
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cnc
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>>577172529
>Whisper is like Peter Parker: she's not allowed to get over her issues.
She murdered Mimic in her most recent appearance, and he was the main bog her issues were trapped in, so maybe she'll get better. Or go nowhere. I don't have much faith in IDW to maintain their characters beyond their only motivation.
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Sonic villains, make the teams
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>>577172721
They weren't, they left cuz Sega didn't approved Mania 2, some left and landed jobs at Nintendo to make Kirby games, the rest made the game Penny's Big breakout
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>>577172794
She got push from sonic official media account with that rush adventure art, speed sim skins, and Silver being relevant means she will also be pushed more through that whether people like it or not especially with duo merchandise of them this year actually selling.

also i know you're silverrapefag.
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>>577173092
I mean, I read all the IDW comics while I was in the hospital, around one year ago. This was around when Mimic (breaking his own character) tried to kill him.
But someone recently posted another panel of her crying in a corner?
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>>577172386
>I don't know why Tangle and Whisper is even popular at all beyond these are the new characters they want to shill.
A lot of lapsed fans or humans got back into Sonic with IDW and they were the nu pet characters for the comic.
For better or worse, they are the face of IDW the way People think if Metal when they think of Sonic Heroes.
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>>577173203
>Sega didn't approved Mania 2
...literally why? Mania was extremely well-received among everyone.
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>>577172978
Or just listen to My Sweet Passion and you'll know everything about who Amy is
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>>577173537
The nukes made them retarded
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>>577172529
Both the characters were made in part to "diversify the available female cast" since all the existing girls were "too girly".

Tangle is basically like Amy but without the fated lovers and self improvement thing.

Whisper wasnt thought out long term. They just went "character writing is when you make a character traumatized and then make them untraumatized" but they cant really do that since you undo the entire character.

The reason they game cast doesn't have this issue is because they are written around a core theme or wish that leads them to experiences that develop them peripherally rather than fundementally changing them.
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>>577173226
>sonic official media account with that rush adventure art
It's just the only one random art, from Evan, calling that a push is insane
>speed sim skins
Like 1 per year, which is like everyone and less than others
>Silver being relevant means-
going to stop you right there, Silver became more relevant when Blaze was completely absent from the image, it wouldn't be wise to use him to propel her anywhere especially after every backlash Silver has been getting by them in every appearance, after these media pushes with him without her, i think it wouldn't be far fetched to conclude that ST realized this as well and it's in their interest to not involve her with him at all.
>also i know you're silverrapefag.
Sorry to disappoint.
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>>577174054
>the existing girls were "too girly".
Rouge is definitely more womanly than girly. But it's me coping wiht how retarded this sounds.

>Tangle is basically like Amy but without the fated lovers and self improvement thing.
So just Amy but as a self-centered bitch, got it.
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>>577173715
Apparantly its not enough. People just listen to the lines about cute sphinx and concluded its a song about her being a creepy stalker for no reason.
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>>577146074
what even was the image?
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>>577173339
I think that was from her fight with Surge in which Surge stole all her wisps.
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>>577174275
Tangle is more like a quirky chungus character, these hyper lol random quirky female characters you find a lot in modern cartoons because she was made by a western person
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>>577174245
You talk exactly like Rayaneee1 on twitter who has the same art silverrapefag drew posted there, you aren't really fooling people.

Mobile slop doesn't really count as ''relevance'' in either character's case. His main merch duos are still shadow and blaze. amy might be added to make the text of him being ''feminine'' clearer to the mix.

they get backlash, but there's a lot of people who are demanding the duo as well, the silver/blaze joycons were made specifically on request and appearently sold well. there's not really anything clear to predict there.

>>577174275
Womanly is still ''feminine''
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>>577174275
>Rouge is definitely more womanly than girly. But it's me coping wiht how retarded this sounds.
"Too feminine" then.
Amy is a lovestruck girl dressed like a gogo-girl. Rouge is a sexy spy thief. Cream is a kindergartener whose everyone's cute little sister.

>>577174275
>So just Amy but as a self-centered bitch, got it.
Amy is actually a pretty "self-centered" character. It doesnt automatically have to have negative connotations. It just means prioritizing what's in yout heart and what you want/feel even if it puts others off. Sonic is similar.
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>>577174808
I don't like them, a bit too bland
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>>577174910
>"Too feminine" then.
Why the fuck is that considered bad for a woman to be feminine?

>>577174714
Thank you for allowing me to understand why exactly I stopped watching cartoons and animes.
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>>577174910
>"Too feminine" then.
It's clear you are a homosexual.
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>>577174305
What do you think the sphx line is about
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Considering writing some fanfics. How do people feel about Peggy Sues?
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>>577175483
Peggy Sue is a woman from a 1950s Rockabilly song by Buddy Holly
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>>577175483
Silver is the best one for this scenario
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>>577175257
I don't want much anime so I don't know if it's the same issue there, usually my problem with female anime characters is how they don't have much character beyond existing as a generic waifu material for the self insert protagonist who is too much of a pussy to even make a move on her
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>>577175483
What's a peggy sue?
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>>577175861
Yeah, but Silver is the canon peggy sue. That's no fun.
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>>577175919
Maybe you should consume more anime than haremslop yourself. shoujo/josei or even anything not otaku centered would be a good start
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>>577170327
>spoiler
He would never!
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>>577175919
Well, anime is meant for mass consumption, so characters tend to be very flat.
I noticed that when I got really into Konosuba: the novels were fine, very funny, and actually made me laugh out loud a few times The characters have depth, and so on.
Then the manga simplified things a bit, a character described as staying in the background is now downright missing from a scene, but they still all get times to shine.
Then I tried watching the anime and all the girls became totally useless with only Kazuma having a brain, while in the novels, there was only one braincell for the party and they had a strict parenting planning.

I got so pissed that I essentially stopped animes. They can't afford to be interesting because you're meant to watch a dozen different animes at the same time.
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>>577175919
Go watch Black Lagoon, Jormungand, Yujo Senki, and Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom. They've all got female characters who exist beyond generic wifuism and no self-insert protagonist.
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>>577176029
I know other anime genres exist that don't do this, my point is that this is how most modern female anime characters are written. Even typical school anime should do a better job to write more interesting female characters but they don't that because than the self insert protagonist actually needs to a real person with a defined personality and interests
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Tails doesn't fuck nor is fucked, because he's a based volcel like me who loves shooting birds.
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>>577176736
Yeah, i was watching aggretsuko which is less anime moreso sanrio cartoon and the characters had more of a narrative purpose including the ones that seem minor since they were written for a different purpose than probably the male otaku thing you're watching
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We all know who the best girl in Sonic is. And the most spankable too.
Maria Robotnik.
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Sometimes i larp as a vampire bat blobian who loves to tease and suck amy's blood. So far it always worked for me to fall asleep fast, idk why but being treated as a sort of antagonist in a story gives me pleasure.
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Rouge as main character when?
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If you could go back in time and fix Sonic 06. How would you do it. It's a meme at this point but it really fucked up the trajectory of the franchise. I we could have fixed it we could have avoided so much pain going forward.
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>>577175257
>Why the fuck is that considered bad for a woman to be feminine?
Because current year?
Part of it is actually a lot of Sonic fans see girlliness as weak and cringe. Including many female fans, but not all of em.
But they dress it up in faux-progressivism to make it socially palatable.
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>>577168221
Christmas Blast is an extension of Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, at least according to wikis anyway. In reality it had Sally, Swatbots and I think Robotropolis, and was more of a standalone blend. Media just did whatever until online fandom.
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>>577175456
My fave character is Amy who is girlypop incarnate. Im just stating facts, not stating my opinion.
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remember kids
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>>577175464
Persian cats have mean looking mugs but are softies. I always took it to be about how Amy reaches the hearts of others.
Overall it's clearly a case of the writer trying to translate an expression from Japanese into english.
SA1 has a lot of that in general.
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>>577178536
>a lot of Sonic fans see girlliness as weak and cringe
Well I'm part of the cool minority then. Awesome, I get to spit my opinion at people and cry when they push back and claim I'm oppressed.
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>>577176029
>>577177356
I usually watch youtube shorts with anime clips that I think look interesting only to end up mostly being harem slop. Why can't they recommend good clips from actual anime that looks interesting or at least good romance anime
But even new anime trailers I watch most of them are just generic cute anime girl waifu slop, so it's just not harem. Too much anime is just waifu slop
I just have a problem with finding anime that really clicks with me in general to where I NEED TO WATCH IT. If I find something I like I'll gladly watch it but that doesn't happen often
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>>577178705
Easy to say, but hard to get off of when you're hooked.
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>>577174862
>You talk exactly like Rayaneee1 on twitter who has the same art silverrapefag drew posted there, you aren't really fooling people.
Blazefag get your meds, not every person who might use the same word in a sentence means they're exactly the same, this is how language is naturally distributed
>Mobile slop doesn't really count as ''relevance'' in either character's case
Yeah and getting traction is what matters anyway
> His main merch duos are still shadow and blaze. amy might be added to make the text of him being ''feminine'' clearer to the mix.
Other than joycons, Blaze really had nothing, so it's not really a duo, much off of a dependence thing
>there's a lot of people who are demanding the duo as well
This, this hard to confirm, probably from the loud minority, but there's not a lot of commotion towards both of them, and there's not really anything good they could promote with Sonic06,
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>>577178705
Sega endorses ai
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>>577175919
Do you only watch thr mainstream battleshonen of the week? Hell, even Most arent like that. Bleach and OnePiece dont have this issue. Nor DragonBall for the matter.

Actual harem anime dont even have this issue.
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>>577178705
Sonic never said that though, he even tried to save Metal sonic.
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>>577178852
Alpha is a special bread. He is more attached to the "2000s Amy bad" narrratove than he is anything else. It gives him a weird validation. Ignore him.
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>>577178907
Because shorts are made to farm clicks, not be engaging.
Stop watching shorts. They are shit in general.
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>>577123786
Rouge isn't necessary anyway.
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>>577179173
I don't really watch full anime's that often, i'll usually watch different anime clips and trailers until I find something I like. I guess I just don't like anime humor and anime tropes that much which is why I struggle to find anything that really interests me
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>>577179838
she is to me
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>>577178907
>yeah man I only play demos, never full games
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>>577139202
Mark my words: Sonic and Eggman are BP
the Item Shop bundles will be Tails/Amy and Knuckles/Shadow
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>>577139202
done
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>>577162839
Surge and Blaze. Kit and Marine. Blaze and Marine. Surge and Kit.
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>>577179838
Most relevant girl after Amy.
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Shadow should date Amy and together they make Silver.
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>>577162839
Amy and Metal two sides of the same Sonic obsessed coin.
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>>577180095
Usually with games if you think the gameplay looks fun, it's an easy choice if you want to play the whole game or not
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>>577179882
Using clips and shorts is just bad in general. Those are made to farm views and those kind of scenes are always what get posted because they get clicks.
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>>577180469
Same energy
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>>577180325
Cute!
....but why is there a giant Metal Sonic outside of her window?
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>>577180889
That isn't a giant Metal Sonic... that's a tiny Amy!
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>>577162839
Blue and Orange colors are often paired together for a reason
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>>577180563
Which means you'd be lucky to be included as a footnote in Core 4 + Shadow/Silver merch.
She has more billing over Cream and Blaze.
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>>577163131
Because it's funny and cartoony.
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Don't care about ships just want to fuck Sara's tits
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What if instead of a just another Super form, Tails and Knuckles got their own special forms based on them as a complimentary or contrast to Super Sonic
What would a Tails form look like that acts as complimentary to Super Sonic?
What would a Knuckles form look like that acts as counter and contrast to Super Sonic?
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Sonic character tier list

>Core tier
Sonic

>Semi core
Eggman
Tails
Amy

>iconic enough to justify recurrence for its sake

Knuckles
Shadow

>useful flex spot
Rouge
Trip

>roster filler tier
Cream
Omega
Metal
Tangle
Whisper
Chaotix
Zeti

>plot device characters
Silver
Blaze
Classic Sonic
Infinite
Babylon Rogues

>glue shitto
Mighty
Ray
Fang
Bean
Bark
Gemerl
Vanilla
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>>577181989
>Robotnik
>not Core
If you don't have an antagonist, you have no story.
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>>577182083
Sonic can have different antagonists and shit still works.
See the storybook games and Shuffle as perfect examples.
Hell, Eggman isn't even really an antagonist in ZG either.
Also
>Robotnik
Archiebro....
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>>577181989
You forgot Sage and she would be Semi core
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>>577182315
>Sonic can have different antagonists
No. Sonic's very being is that he's pro-ecology, and Robotnik embodies wild industrialization. You cannot replace Robotnik by another villain or the message falls flat on his dumb face.
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>>577181989 (me)
>I forgot Sage
Uh, iconic enough to justofy recurrence for its sake
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I wanted to say somethign about how Sonallyfans seem to shoot down official statements from everyone, even Archie writers but the more I thought about it the more it sounded like a seething Sonamyfag who wanted to derail the thread.
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>>577182403
I'll believe it if she shows up in a mainline game.
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>>577182451
>. Sonic's very being is that he's pro-ecology
That's just an aspect of his character. Sonic at his core is the wind and a freedom of the heart character.

Doesn't mean Eggman isn't important. He is ans is structural to the verse. But ultimately you can take Sonic and plop him into a story with no Eggman and he works just fine.
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>>577171625
Watch out, Rouge.
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>>577174808
Honey sexo
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>>577182760
Factorio is literally Robotnik without Sonic.
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>>577182897
The factory must grow
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>>577182997
Now you know why he always has a theme park on the side. You work at a factory but you don't live in it.
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>>577182584
Why? Sonally fags literally disagree with Sega, Sonic Team, Ken Penders, Ian Flynn and everyone who actually has any authority on the matter. They hate Sonic and Amy.
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What did Chris mean that Amy's love for Sonic didn't make it to her bio on time for the franchise's birthday? The bios appeared on the SOA website in early July, not June 23rd.
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nobody cares krack
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I hate talking to you fucking besties
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>>577183059
Leave the bugs alone, dammit!
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>>577182451
There another type of villain Sonic can have which is a destructive force of a nature. Since Eggman is all about wanting order and control over everything, the opposite would be someone who is just pure chaos and destruction who can't be controlled and has no self control
With Sonic being a force of nature who has full control over his mind and powers
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>>577183421
I dunno, magical or fantasy villains feel like they don't work with Sonic, since he's fantastic himself. I feel like he really works well as the magical side against the industry, rational side.

Kinda like Princess Mononoke, I mean, except the industry side goes really, really overboard and no peace is possible.
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>>577181069
I want something official with this pair so bad.
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>>577181789
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They're saying Sonic touched Miles and that's why he's Prower
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>>577178983
I'm not Blaze or any specific characterfag really i just see any stuff for what it is.

i'd say the ones who bash it are the loud minorities mostly driven by shipping drama. the casuals i know are totally off this kind of drama and neutral.

If for nothing else there's dimension material + they could virtue signal since she's the action girl type, it's not just blaze, i think every character is going to go through this kind of testing water to see what clicks
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>>577183269
Corpo shit typically has to be approved months in advance
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>>577183363
>krack
Can someone tell me who this is
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>>577183608
Natural disasters is a thing that exist where something that happens naturally in nature can destroy millions of lives for no good reason like earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunami, volcano eruptions and lightning strikes
Having destructive beings with power over nature isn't that far-fetched
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>>577184123
Who the fuck is that on the left?

>>577181789
Ass > tits
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>>577184186
But Chris said Amy's bio would be updated in a few weeks, not months. It wouldn't take someone months, much less weeks, just to change a few lines of text. So far, it hasn't been updated. He straight up lied
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>>577178835
Does a similar expression exist in japanese?
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>>577184328
But I don't like it. Sonic works better at "restoring" the world, so he works well against a villain that tries to dominate or corrupt it, I feel like it'd be weird if he opposed natural disasters, because, well... they're natural. Cycle of life and that.
That must be why I don't like the modern games.
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>>577184374
>>577181789
The tail is what I masturbate to
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>>577184416
No idea. Maybe he thought it would be possible and missed the deadline or some unforeseen internal functions of the company screwed him over. Or he forgot. It's a Japanese company though, so I wouldn't be surprised if scummy things were going on behind the scenes.
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>>577184750
I was very skeptical of his claim that Amy's love wasn't mentioned in her bio because the lore team was busy. Nevertheless, I gave him the chance to update her bio but he never did it. I doubt he forgot or that internal actors at Sega were giving him trouble. Sega has very little say in the creative direction of the franchise and the lore team has consistently tried to erase Amys' love for Sonic time and time again and I believe that Chris was just waiting for the controversy to die down. What a dirtbag. Sega of Japan will be hearing about this from me very soon and I sure do hope something happens to fix the situation. Remember, Chris only made that Twitter thread as damage control after it was found out that the lore team was responsible for erasing Amy's love from her bio
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I don't get why you guys argue with JP purists like it's possible to change their mind
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>>577184579
I was thinking of creatures that creates natural disasters for the sake of killing others such as Perfect Chaos destroying a whole city by flooding it because he angry at people who no longer exists
It's like how Sonic having super speed and able to create tornadoes with his speed which he could use to destroy things if he wanted but doesn't because he is in full control over himself not letting anger or hatred take over him
It's basically a force of nature with no control vs. force of nature with control

I guess it's difference in opinion, I like Sonic having fantasy nature god creatures. Adds variety to a world of mostly run by furries and humans
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>>577185528
Thanks for letting me know you're a schizo. I'm sure Sega's trash bins will love to read your complaints.
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buy 32 bit hardware
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>>577185908
Oooh. Yeah.
That could be interesting, I guess.

I dunno, since I got Sonic Origins, I've been replaying all the old games, so that definitely impacted how I see Sonic. He's almost some kind of nature spirit in there who interferes to destroy Robotnik and bring balance back.
Especially in Sonic 1 where he's constantly focused and never fucking around.
If it wasn't for the manual, I'd think he's some kind of god possessing a hedgehog.
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>>577185976
What a terrible attempt at trying to demoralize. There's evidence the lore team has intent and you're the one calling me a schizo?
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>>577186471
Oh, I don't really care whether intent is there or not. I'm calling you a schizo for thinking Sega will care or even read your complaints.
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why are besties still seething
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>>577186835
they are mentally ill. they are also neets
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>>577184420
Dunno
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>>577187563
Lmao is it real
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>hello SoJ,
I am writing a complaint because the lore team that you hired to help marketing Sonic in the west are trying to sink my favorite ship. therefore I ask you to fire them and have them black listed from the industry because my ship should be of higher priority than trying to sell action adventures to boys
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>>577185528
Amy's love for Sonic isn't even in the japanese bio.
It just mentions how she chases him as well as how she is trying to get his recognition.
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20 years of…
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Sonic doesn't love Amy, fuck off besties.
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>>577186670
Oh don't worry about me. I know just how to bring Sega's attention to this

>>577187970
Be quiet, Duo. Getting rid of one of the most important traits of very popular character is not how you market it to the west
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>>577188220
He likes her
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>>577185908
>creates natural disasters for the sake of killing others such as Perfect Chaos destroying a whole city by flooding it because he angry at people who no longer exists
Perfect Chaos was nothing of the sort. It was a emotionally distraught mutant water baby alien spirit thing lashing out due to unaddressed thousands year old trauma from its friends being slaughtered.

No one in Sonic just rekts things for no reason.
Even Black Doom who is basically Dpace Satan was motivated by seeing humanity as irredeemable and needing to be punished for their sins.

Solaris was similar.

Shadow was similar

Erazor Djinn was pissed because he realised he exists in a book and is doomed to fulfill his role in the story.
Merlina similarly.
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>>577188038
Don't those expressions in Japanese imply that she's chasing him and trying to get his recognition out of romantic love? Japanese culture is like that. They like to imply things rather than state them explicitly
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>>577188432
Are you ok anon?
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Even dogfucking windfags like Krack have to understand that Sonurge makes the most sense for Sonic as a literary fiction character.
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>>577186221
I like the classic games as much as the next person but I don't want Sonic to ONLY be what he was during Classic game and nothing else. It's why hate the 2010s-2020s Classic/Modern shit so much since it's just create artificial rules and limitations for what Sonic can do that just puts Sonic in a box instead of letting Sonic do whatever he wants and explore new ideas never done before. So much of the fun ideas and iconic things that Sonic has done wouldn't be possible if he was restricted to "Sonic can only do what he did in the Classic games and nothing else"
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>>577188170
a kino character
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>>577188170
sucking dick
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>>577188585
The part about getting his recognition, yes there is an implication of her love.

The chasing part, not necesarily. The way it's phrased, the only reason anyone would connect the two is because they've been primed to do so. On its own, it presents the chase element as seperate but complementary.
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>>577188170
tanabata
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>>577188695
>artificial rules and limitations
Classic characters were never gonna come back in any capacity if not for Classic, Archiebro.
Classic didnt create limitations. It opened up possibility space.

You just made up things to be mad abput.
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>>577188695
That's entirely fair. We all want more of the stuff we want. I just don't really like how the comcis and cartoons had to give him a backstory every time, and a family.
Let him be mysterious, don't explain everything ever. I'm on with explaining who he is, but leave it vague what he is.
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>>577181925
Amy shaking her moderatly sized tits
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>>577189056
Forgotten Classic characters ONLY being allowed to show up in just "Classic brand" material is an artificial rule and limitation that Sega have put on themselves
What's the reason these characters can't show in Modern beyond Sega's classic/modern era autism?
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gonna write sega of japan and tell them amy would sell more comics in the west if she had big fat tiddies
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>>577188912
I'll make sure to explain that Amy's SOA bio doesn't even imply that she loves Sonic and that this is problematic for non-Japanese speakers to Sega of Japan but yeah, I knew that Amy's Japanese bio was implying that she's in love with Sonic but not stating it explicitly
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>Blaze and Marine aren't a duo, they barely interact, fans are forcing shit
>Sonic Team themselves
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>>577189698
The only duo here is Marine and her massive boobs.
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>>577189485
>Forgotten Classic characters ONLY being allowed to show up in just "Classic brand" material is an artificial rule
Nah, its a good thing. Everything gets its place and moment to shine.
You're not complaining about it for any rational reason.
Mighty was never gonna br in Modern, bro.
>What's the reason these characters can't show
We have too many as is and those characters don't add anything.
Classic has more space to work with so they can show up there.
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Classic Ghetto
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