New Hotness Edition>Previous>>577072727>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien bugs, bots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/>MAJOR NEWSJul 23 Supply FRV full rollout https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/680756051157452526Aug 12 Castellan's Creed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j-SpRxhHoAug 12 Face the Unknown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grDCkTGIAqAAug 06 Level 300 cap https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/706653652015644955Aug 11 Warbond Deep Dive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpWSTUq5yPQ>LATEST PATCHESJun 16 1.006.300 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/676249280988579951Jul 07 1.006.301 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/696516748689543612
What are two red/green stratagems that are useful in any mission and you can just throw on any build
That'll be 15 dollar plus tip, no rebate
>>577155147They look good.
Lobby dokohttps://files.catbox.moe/ed0cgm.mp3
>>577155167sex.the instant kind.non-consensual even.perhaps rape.
>>577155147Dying gasp of a doomtranny.
>>577155147The ones on the right look ugly as shit.
>>577155132Eagle strafe/120mm
d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241769854840
Estimated time for patch?Also, why Matar Bay? From Andromeda>>577155132- 500kg or if you are very skillful orbital precision strike. But I don't use it at all.- 120 or 380 for throwing at nest / factory and moving on- Eagle Strife is just so great- MG sentry for bugs- Rocket sentry for bots- AT cuckchair for bots, for taking those objectives down from range, preferably on uphill
>>577155132>Red Eagle Strafing runEagle AirstrikeEagle 500Kg bomb (you'll have to accept getting called reddit)Orbital Gatling 120mm barrage>GreenThis depends more on the faction. Mg and Gatling sentry are good against bugs and squids, but I think the rocket sentry is better against bots. Gas mines are very strong in general. EMS mortar is good on most defense missions.
>>577155179Yes Xister Arrowhead never does wrong
>>577155235https://n.uguu.se/vTCvCmEf.mp3
>>577155147Fucking hilarious that someone included the sets to the right of the AH versions full of confidence they look better, and not like absolute dogshit. No, edge highlighting does not look good on full-scale armor, because edge highlighting only exists to give static miniatures more definition.
>>577155498Probably 8am est as usual
>>577155569Actually, they do do some things wrong, but I'd say they've handled HD2 pretty well, despite people bitching about it all the time.
The meltagun will be dogshit and your hopes will be dashed.
>>577155132>redEagle 500 and Strafing Run are so universal that they work on every front. Everything else is situational.>greenNone of them, partly due to the simple fact that most emplacements are worthless against bugs. The least terrible ones would probably be AT Emplacement and AC Sentry, but they're ultimately all situational.
>warbond about to release>suddenly a bunch of people shill it and praise the gameI am nooooticing
Patch?
>5771556740/10
>>577155716No. It will be great.
>>577155716I'm gonna dash my benis inside yo bunghole
>>577155736nooooticing you're a massive gay faggot? yeah it's fairly obvious DESU LMAAAAAOOOOOO
>>5771553903/4
>>577155736People have literally been saying this is the best Legendary Warbond since the datamines came out saying everything sans the rifle was heavy pen.
>>577155817
helloooooowhere is warbond?
>>577155736>warbond about to release>suddenly an influx of redditors that call every piece of gier shit before it even releasesI'm nooooticing
>>577155736>People actually enjoy the game>SHILL SHILL SHILL
>>577155873>this is the best Legendary WarbondAnon, that's not a very high bar to clear. Even if the weapons were medium pen.
>>577155147quit posting this ai slop
yeah, we're unironically being raided
>>577156060are you talking about the ai slop on the left or the ai slop on the right?
>>577155730>partly due to the simple fact that most emplacements are worthless against bugsI want to try using the HMG emplacement against bugs, but it's so weak against bile titans and charger behemoths that I pussy out. Has anyone else tried using it outside of defense missions?
I think the warbond will be great :3
>ArmorTop 5 one of the best passives in the game.>Bolt PistolGood, not amazing, will be a good competitor to the Senator and Talon.>MeltagunProbably going to be the best close range AT weapon in the game. No backpack taken by the weapon bumps it up too.>Melta MineToo niche and limited in application. The reason the stratagem mines are good is because they cover a ginormous area to maximize>Hot-ShotAnother mediocre marksman rifle to go into the trash. It's Censor or bust for this category.
>>577156080true if you mean that a bunch of hung men is 'raiding' your asshole. lol
>>577155962Go bACK
>>5771553904/4
>>577156178confirmed that pistol can close bugholes and fabs or not?
>>577155390fvll of BUG SEX
>>577156178Yeah, the Censor is the only marksman rifle in this game I've ever enjoyed. And that's because with stealth armor you can provide covering fire to another player and not draw aggro to yourself.
>>577155053Does the bolt pistol explode?
>missed the bug sex lobbyfuck.
Saars, do not to be the insult to the legendary warbond. It is actually best warbond of all time. Each and everything is greatest items, saars. You are bloody benchod if you are against Arrowhead.
>>577156304They probably would have shown that off in the trailer, so I'm thinking it can't.
More like Censuck. Amendment is better.
Yeah, he looks like a Chaos player.
>>577156608I'm under the impression that most Warhammer 40 players look like this regardless of what faction they choose.
>>577156606>*draws aggro from shooting and ends up in close quarters with a gun not intended for close range*And this is why the Censor is the only good marksman rifle, because it prevents this happening.
>>577156606even the diligence is better
>>577156608>w-w-w-we descended from vikings durrrrrrThere could not be a better visual representation of the word "chud"
>>577156606Amendment is the best, of course it's better.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241770410105/76561198410446740lobby you've been dokoing for (i posted it in the wrong thred!!!!!!)
>>577156608He ate all the surströmming
>>577156751he's too white to be a chud
>>577156608Someone needs to tell him that hairstyle isn't workingHe looks like a greasy drug addictHe looks like he smells like shit
>>577156729Amendment is intended for every range that's why it's cool
>>577156827You're too brown to post here
You guys are kinda mean...
>>577156740t. shitter who can't compensate for the tiniest of extra bullet drop>Censor has the same damage as the Diligence over close-medium range which is where 99% of all your shooting happens>Censor has the option of larger mags than the Diligence>Censor has more meaningful customization>Censor has access to a x10 scope, the Diligence does not>Censor has better ergonomics>Censor has less recoilAll this for a "drop" that's counteracted by just using the triangle under the circle of the scope.
>>577156980kill yourself
>>577156178Anon, mines fucking suck because they take up a stratagem slot, are on a 2 minute cooldown and you lose about 50% of them to secondaries when ragdolling corpses create holes in your minefield for following enemies to pass through. The Melta Mine looks like at least you'll be able to guarantee one heavy kill per toss, which puts it on the same tier as Thermite (more if you can catch an entire patrol with it).
>>5771567782/4
>>577156778Your Johnposting attempt is cringe and gay. Just like when you posted it the other day. Not joining your lobby.
>>577157040It covers a tiny as fuck area and takes up your grenade slot, nobody is taking this thing. It forces you to take a spammable stratagem, an explosive support weapon, or the grenade pistol to deal with spawners. It's garbage, it's competing with Thermites and Giga-Grenades in a hyper-competitive slot.
>>577157083FULL
The melta mine is slighty useful for brick missions and flag raising.
>>577157029:(
grrrr i hate tourists
>>577157123I don't play with FAT BLACK STINKY NIGGERS LIKE (You) anyway anon.
>>577157407imagine doing this bullshit while diving
why are you guys hosting lobbies its legendary goybond eve
>>577157407embarrassing
>>577157407he got swag
>>577157616>>577157546zero flair by the books larp diversyou will never be an operator
>>577157449Post your skin color and physique then you skinnyfat jeet
>>577155147>buys super credits
>>577157407kino
>>577154159>Back when Polar Patriots released, the trailer showed the Purifier one-shotting a scout strider with a frontal hit when it couldn't do that on release.that's because 10 days before the warbond released scout strider drivers gained 50% explosive resistance, turning the 150 damage explosion on the original purifier from a 1 shot into a 2 shot. the trailer was clearly just recorded before that change went live, which isn't unusual because that kind of thing isn't done last minute.if you're going to call the out on the purifier not being released as advertised call them out on it being described as a weapon that got stronger the longer you charged it but released without any damage ramping based on charge time
>phacy bay is full of credit farmers making no liberation progressGetting access to that shithole again was such a mistake. I will vote to blackhole to deny turd worlders their credits if given the chance.
>>577157407gayest shit I've seen since this post >>577156778
>>577157407Ludo>>577157616>>577158171You will never be keyed.
>>577157407https://youtu.be/H4FbRfeOl-8?si=tTustFFGk5asDJZZ
>>577157220>It's garbage, it's competing with Thermites and Giga-Grenades>It forces you to take a spammable stratagem, an explosive support weapon, or the grenade pistol to deal with spawners. do you even listen to yourself?
>>577158504>People don't use Thermites or GGs on spawners>In a world where Engineering Kit, the Supply Pack and Supply FRV existslollmao
>Popping charger head sub 1 secondI've seen enoughNERF MELTASHITTER NOOOOWWW
if you consider taking thermites or giga nades into mission even a *possibility* then you might as well hop on HRT already
>>577158661No one asked EATroon
>>577157407LE HECKIN BATTLEFIELD CHUNGUS RELOAD WOOOOOOAAAAHHH
>>577158592and the same won't work with grenade slot melta mines because.....?
>Melta Gun raped Hulks and Chargers in seconds>The Bolt Pistol is literally a one-handed AutocannonTOTAL BUFFGOD VICTORY, NERFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>577158784sorry but EAT is a certified classic, troonmites will always be troonmites
>>577158810because the melta mine has no utility beyond killing heavies, and there's no situation where it's better than a thermite or melta.>heavy running at you>you can either chuck a mine in its path and kite it along said path>or just throw a gg or thermite at it and be done with it>melta mine can't destroy spawners>ggs and thermites can in a pinch>ggs and thermites can be thrown a considerable distance towards targets like bile titans and factory striders>the melta mine 100% will not work on bile titans due to their spindly legs, and factory striders are a crap shoot
>>577158897Whatever helps you cope, EATroon.
This warbond is going to need some serious nerfs from looking at the trailer. We can't let the game become trivialized so quickly. I think arrowhead is pulling a classic pay-to-win move by releasing OP weapons for people to want to buy. Sad to see the absolute state of the game become this.
>>577159132forced
>>577158984>melta mine can't destroy spawnersthat depends on the its demolition force and we don't know that yet. maybe you can crutch it by throwing the mine at the spawner and then blowing it up manually with a gun
>>577158984>>melta mine can't destroy spawnersthis thing that does over 2000 damage and comes with a secondary explosion definitely absolutely 100% won't be able to destroy spawners
>>577157724you just want to see a man's body because you're GAY and you like DICK
>>577158814I vill continue using my amr, ultimatum, gigas and supply pack tyvm
>>577156126the ai slop that is ai slopI can see it, can't you?
>>577159132EAT is a platonic form of an AT weapon. This like calling air or water trans.
>>577159304>>577159251it'll work like a lure mine, you lazily throw it barely ahead of you. so even if it can, distance is a factor that every other grenade wins out on. people with a good sense of arc and distance can dive throw thermites 50 meters bang on a target.
>Cord and lelddit already asking for Meltagun nerfWhat the fuck
>>577158171yeah i epicly owned myself by posting in the wrong bread
Sorry nerf sisters but Arrowhead has NEVER nerfed a single Legendary Warbond weapon :)
>>577155053rape helldivers
>>577158641Trvke...
>>577159495Killzone and ODST SMGs got indirectly nerfed by the new drag values
>>577159443It is absolutely broken even at a glance. A toddler could understand that it will ruin the game as is.
>>577156729That's what the bayonet is for, pussy.
>>577159443>the most ardent swigger defenders are asking for nerfs because muh grunt fantasymore news at eleven
>>577159495Why would they? 99% of the current Lego Warbond shit sucks ass.
>>577155730>>577156136>>577155132HMG emplacement is god-tier vs mecha squids.
>>577159591>NOOOOOOO THE ANTI-TANK WEAPON THAT CAN BARELY SHOOT 25 METERS WILL BREAK THE GAME NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT>Oh but the Recoilless is fine tho :)
I didn't know they were adding lasguns too
>>577159780>Recoilless is finetakes up a backpack slot
>>577159780backpack and 4 second stationary reload.
>needs to be at blowjob distance in order to kill shit>WAAAAAAAAH THIS IS HECKING OP, NERF NERF NERF!!!!!Whatever happened to "high risk high reward" gameplay? You still need have to work around the Melta gun in order for it to truly shine, meanwhile the Spear and RR can rape everything across the map, yet another nothingburger hysteria.
patch notes doko
>>577155736No, it's just returnfag season.The ones who play the game for a couple days every major update and praise the absolute fuck out of everything, while dropping $60 to unlock the shit they missed.
>>577159949>>577159981>implying it wouldn't be balanced out by having piss poor ammo economy, forcing you to bring the Supply Pack anyway
>>577159981>>577159949QuasarEATsCommandoThe trade-off for these weapons is a cooldown, single-use, or a limited 150 meter range like the Quasar.The Meltagun again has a 25 meter range, meaning>Completely useless againstDragon RoachesStingraysGunships>Conditionally useless againstCannon TowersCommand Bunker CannonsWar StridersFactory StridersVox EnginesThe Meltagun is a complete dud on the bot front, this thing excels more on bugs, and barely has a use case at all on Squids.
>>577159982If you let the enemy get that close, you should be punished not rewarded. The meltagun encourages bad play and thus is bad for the game.
Meltagun will have 18 meters rangeIt will only have a maximum charge of 5 seconds usageIt will only have 3 magazinesYou WILL bring supply pack for this
>>577160265>Shotguns shouldn't exist>The hammer shouldn't exist
>>577160219I'd test it against fleshmobs, overseers, squid mechs, and harvesters (with arc armor). The flamers already do this stuff, though.
BREACHING HAMMER SISTERSWHAT IS OUR ROLE NOW AIEEEEE
>gucci posting
This isn't really much closer than a typical *fight* in this game.>>577160140No weapon needs supply pack if you call resupplies regularly. But I seriously doubt it will have less shots than other reloadable AT. >>577160219>Dragon RoachesBarely ever appears. Overall it rapes the competition on bugs. And shit like warp pack will make it extremely strong on bots regardless.
>slipper schizo posting
>>577155390gg... i guess
Stop falling for bait you simians
>>577159443>make a weapon so blatantly OP people demand for it to be nerfed just like the AP4 GLwell played swiggers, well played
If you seriously think an instant delete-heavy-enemy beam is good for the game you're a reddit dadgamer.
>>577160892lobby steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241775865944/76561198088743
>>577161304We already have weapons in this level in the game right now with lesser drawbacks you retarded tourist.
>>577160450not be flaming homosexuals like the rest of the support weapons in the game
>>577161304Why are we complaining about the orbital laser and the railcannon strike?
>>577159519grim tidings...
>bring lasgun for raiders and devastators>bring bolt pistol for berserkers, gunships, and spawners>bring meltagun for heavies and spawners>don't even need a grenadethe 40k bond is going to absolutely dominate the bot front
>>5771613092/4
>>577161309this is the sex ERP lobby.DO NOT JOIN
>>577161304As opposed to the other dozen stratagems that instantly rape heavies?The anti tank meta is boring dogshit and i'm over it
>>577155147>payingruro rumao
>>577161490Guessdivers...
>>577161395They all have drawbacks like long reloads, long cooldowns, or limited ammo. The melta gun has decent range and a long uptime. It is THE dadgamer get out of jail free weapon.
>>577161784>20ish meters>Decent rangeNigger that's less than half your fucking throw distance.
>>577161595it is the very foundation of the game, rape or be raped
When can we turn Phact Bay into a black hole and make the brownoid farmers angry?
>>5771613093/4
>>577161309trans lobby ERP with g*cci and nimrod
>/hdg/ a week ago>lol lmao meltagun gonna be a meme>/hdg/ now>NERF THE DADGAMER SHITTER WEAPON NOOOOWWW
>>577161936I thought hive worlds were the best farming planets
>>577161776how am I wrong? even if the bolt pistol isn't explosive the meltagun shits out so much damage it will easily be able to blow up spawners
>>57716189690% of combat takes place within 10m retard
>>577162052Okay bug shitter.
>>5771613094/4
>>577161998How new?
>>5771613094/4 gucci joined so 1 hour no shit posting
Cremator status?Breaching hammer status?Laser cannon status?
>Chuds here are unfathomably addicted to the slop made by poeple who look like thisLMAO
>weapon looks bad in trailer>oh sweety wait for release :)>you can't judge a weapon just by the trailer :))>weapon looks good in trailer>NERF IT NOW AHHH MUH GRUNT FANTASY NOOOOWhat causes this behavior
>>577162287what's his loadout?
>>577160219>conditionally useless against War StridersThe supposedly "heavy enemy" that can be easily demolished with the fucking Crisper? The meltagun would devastate them.
I already called on the first trailer that Meltagun will do crazy DPS but nobody believed me
Turns out the update is tomorrow insteadPost your diver now
>>577162287as opposed to people who look like this?
>>577162018They nerfed the poi spawns on hive planets.
i can't wait to be disappointed by more zombieslop tomorrow so i can finally uninstall
>>577162451you post your without a coomer mod first
hot take>Support w/ backpack + 3 stratagems is significantly better than every >Support + backpack + 2 stratagemsThere is no support + backpack combo worth losing an entire stratagem slot for
>>577162405>RR>Eruptard>thermites>500 kg>napalm barrage>ultimatum>120 mm>
>>577162415The ability to get under a Factory Strider is down to timing and luck. This makes any close range AT weapon conditional against them.Unlike the RR, SPEAR, Commando, EAT, Quasar which are effective from any range.
reminder that only infertile females are allowed to be helldivers :^)
>>577158984>Thermite Oh sweetie, that's last season's crutch. Giganade is this seasons crutch.
>>577162658Nuh-uh, won't remove my warp pack for free bunkers
>>577162698>The ability to get under a Factory Strider is down to timing and luck.>blow up chin guns with my 300 damage heavy pen bolt pistol>leisurely stroll under the factory strider because none of the devastators it spawns or any of the other bots around it can shoot for shit>beam it dead in 1 second flat with the meltagun
>>577162698....War Strider, not Factory Strider.
>>577162658tepid take
>>577162909Sill applies. War Striders operate on Harvester coin flip accuracy, they either comically miss every shot of their beam weapons, or ragdoll the shit out of you and then dome you while you're on the ground.
>>577162658No it's a perfectly fair trade for most of them.
>>577162582K'
>>577156471Narrowhead doesn't play their own game and they wouldn't realize that a bolt pistol having demo force is something that would be desirable by the playerbase. They probably don't even think about the stat beyond minimizing what we have that can kill jammers, and cucking plasma because in the before-times they decided to cuck plasma because "realism".
>>577162658>gas + gatling vs bugs and squids>OPS + eagle strafing vs botsdo you even need a 3rd red against any faction?
literally no explosive can't destroy spawners
>>577162278>crematorbest belt-fed weapon and will still rape breaches like theres no tomorrow>breaching sneedmmermeme pick now and forever>LCits still more versatile than the metlagun
>>577163145Dumb fucking moron.
>>577156471>>577163076yes a weapon that produces a massive explosion on hit like this definitely isn't explosiveit shouldn't be
>>577163297sóyrage. you are delusional
>>577163145how new
Collabslop ruins the integrity of the game.
>>577163370you just need to verify file integrity in the Steam settings
>>577163370You are two slopbonds too late it's over
>>577163369smug retard
Ah, the perfect split of no progress.
>>577163370But it makes the big bucksspace marine warbond soon
>>577155132Orbital gas and strafing run
>>577163609It's the day before a huge update, chill man
>deep dive>less than 2mins of random rambling about random shit nobody cares
>>577163609>no progressdoes he know?
>Less than 24 hours before the big update>We basically don't know anything about itIt's quite refreshing
>
I'm excited for the update tomorrow
I still gotta wonder why they're updating it on a Wednesday instead of the usual Tuesday
>>577164196i look like this
muh mods...
>>577164095their decision to release warbonds on patch day instead of after is indeed refreshingimagine actually being surprised by something instead of having everything instantly datamined and leaked weeks beforehand
>>577162658Reminder to the shitters that your third slot can be->A sentry which is a free extra teammate if used properly>A bombardment which just deletes call-ins for free>A number of crowd wiping stratagems>One of the mechs that nearly break the game>The AT emplacement or Tank which literally breaks the game
>>577164254It is tuesday. Just not the one you thought.>8/12>12/8
>>577164375>leaksissies cucked out of their leaksi kneel arrowhead
>>577164196I will now buy your 40k warbond
>>577162451
>>5771646161/4 :(get in
>>577164909create new lobby with a new lust provoking image stupid
>>577164724
>>577164996>>5771567782/4
>>577164996sorry i have the tarded
>>577164724leandivers look like this???
>>577162658even better take>one takes a support + 3 stratagemsand the other>takes a backpack + 3 stratagemsand just drop the blues to the other teammate once they're off cooldown
>>577162658Hot take>4 stratagems + looted gearsIs vastly better than every>Support + backpack + 2 stratagemsThere is no support weapon or backpack worth losing two stratagem slots for
>>577164196>still couldn't fix the prey eyesLMAO
>>577165637that's not prey eyes
>24 hours until abdosloppers worldwide will be forced to look at normal human proportions
>>577165778nah, i just stop playing until the mods are fixed.i can play without them, i just refuse to. it makes the game playable.
>shitters find the game 'unplayable' without a stack of nexus mods cheats
>>577165065FULL
>>577165352things you can pick up mid mission if you're lucky:>APW-1 Anti-Materiel Rifle>FLAM-40 Flamethrower>EAT-17 Expendable Anti-Tank>RS-422 Railgun>M-105 Stalwart>GL-21 Grenade Launcher>MG-43 Machine Gun>LAS-98 Laser Cannon>ARC-3 Arc Throwerthings you can find with no backpack:>FAF-14 Spear>AC-8 Autocannon>GR-8 Recoilless Rifleusually you only get arc throwers, AMRs, and machine guns, especially the latter on colony missions
>first hate spore planets>play spore planets for few days>wish spore was normal bugdamn normal bugs are fucking easy and boring after spore
>>577166415somehow I can't recall ever finding an LC
>>577166560I think they're at hellbombs poi's
for me it's picrel
>>577166725pretty cool for killing scavengers I guess?
I'm hyped for the melta gun and bolt pistol
How are you ranking them after the trailer?
>>577166872highly depends if bolt pistol can close bug holes
>>577166796
For me it's the Hot-Shot
>>577166872I was already going to take the Meltagun and Meltamine regardless of everything. The trailer changed nothing.
>>577162493You are the person that looks like that.... playing a game made by people who look like this>>577162287
>>577166872>hotshotdon't care>bolt pistolcan it close bug holes>meltaguncan it hit gunships, roaches, how bad is the range limitation exactly>meltaminecan it be shot to detonate it on structures? can it destroy large bug hole?
>>577167379Sorry quoted the wrong picture, I meant this one >>577164196
The only thing I'd really want to customize on support weapons would be the scope. If I could change the scopes on the machine guns, I'd be happy. I don't really care about all the other customization options like magazines or underbarrels.
>>577167556>can it hit gunships, roachesare you retarded? genuine question
muh big bug hole is the silliest concern people have. more often than not it's one per mission, if even, not everyone needs to be able to close these
>>577166872Don't care, not buying 40keks shit. The Swedes can tongue my anus.
>>577166872>marksman rifle. Depends if it is heavy and can close bug holes. Might be cool. Might be cool.
>>577166872I like the Bolt pistol>t. autocannon addict
>if the bolt pistol can't close bug holes it's USELESS>meanwhile the senator, unable to close bug holesI don't understand this position
>>577168036>>577155601
Illuminate void theme sounds great
>>577168002answer the question, 40kek slop enthusiast
>>577167556>meltagun>can it hit gunships, roaches, how bad is the range limitation exactlyHoly shit you can't be this retarded, right?
>>577168175>>meanwhile the senator, unable to close bug holesyeah its worthless these days
>>577167556>every trailer and piece of information clearly call the melta a close range weapon>"Can it hit a target at 200 meters???"
What are the chance of them nuking all the account with tens of thousands of SC before releasing the 40k warbond tomorrow?
>>577168002>>577168296>>577168427>do we know the answer to the question, definitively?>no, but we're going to freak the fuck out like a bunch of spazzes anyway :DDDD
>>577168516Zero
>>577168516below zero lol
>>577168369>yeah its worthless these daysmaybe if you're a sissy faggot. braining hive guards in 2 shots is nice
>>577168516Zero. Sorry you got the FOMO hard little bro.
>>577168538gee anon does https://youtu.be/h-j-SpRxhHo?t=96 look like it'll reach gunships?
>>5771685160% unless you linked your PSN account.The entire reason why they were so adamant about the PSN account linking was so they would have a way to ban players.Arrowshart is entirely powerless.
>>577168175At least 80% of all pistols are worthless after the drag factor nerf.
>>577168516>what are the chances of them literally killing their game and putting their actual office and employees in physical danger from unhinged retards and glazers that took advantage from chink lobbies alikei wonder
>>577168662Any other weapon can kill a hiveguard tho, smooth brain. Think for a second. I didn't say the gun wasn't cool, i said it was worthless in the current meta.
>>577168730if you're directly underneath them, possibly
>>577168846not from front not as easily not while staggering it. dumb nigger
>>577168846Hive guards are literally unkillable without AP3+ weaponry. We bugshitters have done the testing and this is why we had a week long spergout then Arrowhead (damnation to their name) made them AP4 only.
>>57716851641%
>>577166872everyhing is shit
>inb4 Arrowhead lowers the maximum ceiling so all flying enemies are in range of the melta
>>577168952Not funny
>>577168779go see a doctor about getting prescribed a vibrator to deal with your hysteria
>>577168846>metaThis nigga has no whimsy.
>>577169043I was not joking.
I'm not like a full on "random stratagems mod" type player but I've always liked bringing a different loadout every round in this gameidk it's like more fun to bring 'gems that I haven't used in a while, if I kept using the same one all day I would get bored of it
>>577166173im talking about my helldiver's big fat ass you bumbling oaf
>>577169081Stay in your lane, old jew
Amerifat nigger image
>>577168952>still having a meltyI'm sorry they unnerfed hiveguards, anon. I know they have too much health for you now.
>>577168779Drag has little to do with it, people would just rather run a pocket OPS in that slot (duh) or a pocket SPEAR (duh). Pistols could have AR drag and 90% of people who own Ultimatum would still run Ultimatum
>have to endure weeks of "THIS THING IS TOTALLY GETTING LE NERFED XD"like buffsissies don't run the game now
>>577169209we don't claim him
>>577169258hey i'm not part of the crowd that had an insane week long meltdown because they made a slow moving enemy that was intended to be armored from the front, actually armored from the front
>>577169318>have to endure weeks of "THIS THING IS TOTALLY GETTING LE NERFED XD"That's been going on for like a year now.
>>5771650653/4
>>577169138
Do we get the free armor tomorrow?
>DCS but with yellow bullets
>>577169318/nerf/ifeel free to stop taking part in the discussion
>>577169323you're about as american as the parts in my computer (chinese)
>>577169464on super earth we call this a truth hellbomb
>>577169505That was pretty funny.
>>577169505>sees bile titan being launched towards him>'uhmmm yeah lemme just fuck around with these bile spitters for some reason'Russian situational awareness...
>>577169286Talon, Verdict, Senator, Warrant, (do not) Redeemer are still perfectly good secondaries.You are just a negro metaslave who cannot handle heavies without crutchtimatum and the pisstol.Besides, if you really must rely on a crutch for heavies just bring the nigganades or snoozemites.
>>577169737is the state of the game really so fucked that when you see a bile titan jerking around your first assumption is that it's headed directly toward you?
>>577169138>>577169464Unfit for deployment, meant only for propaganda usage
>>577169807I literrally never use the 2 mentioned because I dont have AIDS. Doesn't change the fact players at large won't use pistols if also given access to these 2.
>>577167556>can it hit gunships, roaches, how bad is the range limitation exactlyPseudo first person view from an FRV.
>>577169891The game purposefully launches bile titans at you for le funni death about half of the time so yeah, do notice how they never get launched backwards or sideways
>>577170080>he thinks the textures are accurate to the hitbox
>>577169891Yeah.
>>577169891Yeah since some update bile titans became heatseeking missiles for some reason
>>577170197Of course, how silly of me, Arrowhead actually coded it so the damage hitbox extends well beyond the beam length. Because that's sensible, if you're a troglodyte intentionally looking to get mad about random shit.
>>577170138No, they get launched forwards because they are moving towards you and the momentum propels them that way
>>577169891>bro has never been hit with le funny ragdoll death malicious codeBig enemy corpses like bile titans, impaler and charger get magnetically pulled towards players constantly, how have you not seen this yet?Same with the vox death pod homing in on a player 100% of the time.One time I literally watched an impaler's corpse sliding along the ground slowly towards another player.
>>577170368>extends well beyond the beam lengthpoint to where I said that
>>577170430>Same with the vox death pod homing in on a player 100% of the time.except for every time they don't
>>577170461You claimed the textures don't line up with the hitbox, so you're claiming the hitbox extends beyond the beam for some reason.
>>577170585>you're claiming the hitbox extends beyond the beampoint to where I said that
>>577170430Bro' don't even try to argue with this retard. He's denying something thats CLEARLY happening on the regular.
>>577170650Are you pretending to be retarded on purpose? What DID you mean then, vagueposter? What do you expect me to infer from >he thinks the textures are accurate to the hitbox
>>577170368that will end up being the case and it will also have reversed damage falloff due to a bug (retarded jeet coder)
>>577161309GGs
>>577168516IDK what do you think?
>>577170371Okay so when I kill one that doesn't move towards me because it hasn't spotted me, how come it still flies straight towards me?
>>577170738he's clearly a doomposting whiner that believes the hitbox is going to be shorter than the visual beam, not longer
>>577170080this is a view from a spectator camera, you can see the beam emitting from several feet behind the divers as they drive along because arrowhead can't do netcode for shit
>>577170837I still don't understand this. How is it impossible to ban players?
>>577170867Hard to tell here, we can't see it getting killed. But BTs will change walking directions to avoid obstacles etc while chasing another player. If anything the fact it didn't crash into whoever killed it proves it's not a thing.
>>577171021it is impossible to add a steamid connection blacklist to your server.txtat this point i think their network engineers just despise the company and let it all slide while telling them its impossible to implement
>>577170867That one is flying away from the people that killed it.
>it can't close bugholes
>>577169891It should be the standard reaction that every bile titan corpse is headed towards you specifically after doing a few drops on the bug front yeah.
Funny twist would be us going into the void and the planets are just beautiful illuminate paradises
>>577171096>>577171181It was killed by an orbital railcannon strike, pretty convenient that it flies towards a player every time
>>577163609TWO MORE WEEKS!
>>577165637>prey eyes
>>577171518well once aggroed it will start chasing one of the players. so when it dies the momentum will send it towards that player
>>577170290You think it somewhat uses the same code as Vox escape pods?
>>577171518It was surrounded by players. There's hardly a direction it could have flown that wouldn't threaten one of them. While I agree that Bile Titans shouldn't fly like that, I don't think there's anything guiding them towards players. It's probably just a mix of emergent factors (like Bile Titans walking towards people, so they naturally start flying towards them) and a cognitive bias to remember all the times a corpse kills you instead of the times it doesn't.
>>577171675I do think it started happening around that time. What you had before was mostly ragdolls going crazy, and if you were unlucky, in your direction. But now i can kill a bile titan that NOT even looking in my direction, and have him home on me instantly. There was a few webms like this at some point.Oh and lets not forget the explosions that sucks you to the enemies. Its still a thing, perhaps more than ever.
>>577170896>doompostingyou don't play the game
>>577171898What is blud even blathering about?
>>577171891You're either new or gaslighting yourself if you think this isn't a thing.
>>577172027the player in the trailer wasnt moving while firing so every retard in this thread decided cremator is stationary.
>ultimatum>supply pack>epoch
>>577171669Except it doesn't just walk in a straight line ignoring every single obstacle just to reach you, you never see it launched towards the left or right when it dies while navigating through obstacles, it's always straight towards a player. Even when it just dies, falls to the ground and suddenly gets launched, always towards someone.
>>577172152you are genuinely stupid
>>577172152What does this have to do with anything?
>>577172157I don't really like the ultimatum. It feels kind of inconsistent.
>>577172251No the people who were convinced you can't move while firing the cremator are. >>577172260Everything.
>>577172384in the future if you don't understand the conversation you can just stay quiet instead of making up things to get upset about
>>577166205donezo thanks for gaying
How's the new outrider armor? Seems like it would shine against bots.
>>577172308it is very consistent, you just have to git gud and learn how to aim with it.
>>577171895I still remember that one webm>player kills BT>it flies across the map towards them>player lucks out and dodges the BT>it teleports back and flies towards the player again>dodges it a second time>teleports back to its death location like nothing happened
>>577172703Maybe that's the problem. I suck at aiming it.
>EAT>Bullet Storm>Lumberer>JetpackYep, it's Mechwarrior time
Why do people get so butthurt over sc dup cheats?
>>577172729Pure hasard btw
>>577172494idk you seem more upset than anyone else here. the conversation is more broadly about people being confused by warbond trailers and shitting themselves
>>577172851Can't brag about how "rich" (gullible) you are if what you pay for doesn't have value, no matter how insignificant it is.
>>577172152>search archive for keyword cremator+move/walk/run/stationary>zero results about people thinking it was stationary outside this postwhat was the point of lying about this?
>>577173401im a gay nigger and i like dick
Strap me to a rocket and fire me into the void I'm ready
What bugs will they introduce in tomorrow's long awaited title update?I hope it's something really invasive and annoying
>bile titans are intentionally programmed to home in on players just like ejecting vox heads are intentionally programmed to home in on play-ACK
>>577173401Yeah idk why he's lying about that.What ACTUALLY happened is that people thought it was gonna be the same strength as the regular flamethrower since it wasn't doing shit to the enemies they were using it against.Which I'm pretty sure was the original intention, but they quickly increased its damage when they saw the backlash.
>>577173401Entire thread at the time was seething about this. You did a poor job searching.
>>577173668So it just shoots forward and people misinterpret that as the coffin aiming at them?
>>577173668>Post-Cyberstan invasion after they changed itYou are a LARPer
>>577173668>not shown in this video, the helldivers it was actually aiming for, getting squashed
>>577169891They probably wanted to create an animation of the titan falling towards the player, but since we're dealing with the sw*des and a fucking stingay with broken physics, we got what's happening in the video. Anyone who has played Darktide knows that a mutant hit in the head with a brick has a 100% chance of starting to fly towards the player.
>>577165352Looted gear is just too rare on most maps at D10. It's not like D4 where you walk ten paces and trip over a malfunctioning hellpod with a trial backpack in it.
>>577173609my apologies wulfgamer, please carry on
>>577168002>”ugh, are you really not 100% intimately knowledgeable about my fantasy gun??? Holy shit what a retard!”Jesus go find some fucking sex
too obvious
>>577173790It was nerfed and now only homes in like one in ten voxs
>>577173668>>577173790Pretty crazy that the one-in-a-million scenario (one single projectile that can land anywhere in a 50m radius, not diameter, radius, happens to land straight in your head multiple times a mission, designed to do it when you're not looking up), happens so often. I should play the lottery!
>>577172603it has no use case
>>577173790yes. it has a random trajectory of anywhere in a 45ish degree arc to its front. the facing and vertical angle of the vox engine itself also matters with it being on a wall or half way up a rock with it tilted downwards or to the side making it launch farther on a flatter arc or more to the side.and since most of the time players are killing voxes when they are in its forward arc it just looks like it's homing in on them when they're just in the beaten zone>>577173915keep coping
>>577174218Low level tilesets are way better than the high level ones. D10 is giga cucked tho. Low level got all the stuff that you rarely ever see at high level. Broken hellpod, crashed bomber, rare bunker variants ...
>vox head-thing is destructible>the head takes a considerable amount of damage, but is a little softer than a body kill>killing the head doesn’t kill the vox>arrowhead discord mod confirm this is intentionalI will never not be mad at this
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>>577174896Its like>the charger's ass isn't actually a weakpointall over again lmao. retards swedes
>>577174983It is though
>>577174983>has less armour than any other part>can be damaged by light pen>kills the charger when you pop it>not a weakspot
Thank you, buGODs
>>577175051>>577175112Hello, newfags
This one is horrendous makes playing bugs a nightmare. Just start making anything bigger than a charger sink through the ground after three seconds.
>>577172308the only thing consistent with the ultimatum is that its users are AGPs
>>577175051>>577175112You had to be there near release, newfags. You're basically playing a whole different game now.
>>577175202>>577175249the charger butt has not functionally changed at all since launch
>>577174609It keeps hitting you because you aren't dodging it.
>>577175308https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Charger
>>577174915FVLL.
>>577175202>>577175249where were you shooting the charger with anything <AP5 before 60 day patch?
>>577174896they could have let the head spot a fatal spot and die to 2 recoiless hits.they would have been able to keep their infinite spawns and general tankyness.but nooooooooooooooooooo, it jsut HAD to have no real weakspots beside the grenade minigame which more often than not is not viable on D10 enemy spam.they just had to make it so overpowered that people complained so much it got cucked to being a joke to a joke weapon like the SPEAR now, which arguably takes even less skill than the recoiless.I hope they are very happy with their decision to not make the vox just another "omg recoiless meta wahhhh" thing from the start.
>>577175317Oh so what you're saying it, it does home-in on you? So it's intentionally programmed to hit you then?
Why did they make most of the OPS' damage come from the projectile instead of the explosion
>>577174803I'm torn a bit. On the one hand the absence of the extra POI loot adds to the difficulty, but I'd like to more seriously run loadouts where I just make due with what I find on the planet. But it's extra bad on D10 where the mega nest/fortress gets shoehorned into the map and has a fuckhuge POI exclusion zone round it. Ignoring difficulty for a moment, the POI drought at higher difficulties is largely to blame for why it's so damn hard to collect SC at high difficulties. It's so fucking dumb that I can go hours without finding 100sc worth of loot, and then if I load into a D1 map to do an initial handling test of new gear I can't walk ten paces without tripping over POIs full of credits.
>>577175308Please newfags, stop spreading misinformation.
>>577175475Alexus is both retarded and malicious.
>>577175432It naturally lands around you because the vox engine is facing you when it dies. It's not homing in on you, you're just putting yourself in the situation where it's most likely to kill you and doing nothing to mitigate that.
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>>577175308I missed that important part my bad
>>577175405>>577175614>has not FUNCTIONALLY changedwhen you completely ignore key words it's easy to think you're making some kind of slam dunk counterpoint but it's really just demonstrating that you're retarded
>>577174896>discord modIts super fucking annoying these useless shits are allowed to answer anything Unless it comes from the VOX designer himself its a fucking bug
>>577175475Lining up direct hits on Bile Titans was kino and filtered so many people that they made it completely unnecessary.
>>577175839See>>577175817I think the butt ignoring explosive damage is a pretty big change.
I miss the launch ACThe modern one feels like a fucking pea shooter
>>577175308not strictly a butt change but the recent animation change no longer exposes the butt after a charge
>>577176098Is the autocannon any weaker now than on launch?
>they weren't there when fredrik said the butt wasn't a weakspotNot my problem if you faggots joined 3 months ago.
>>577176168I think it reloads faster, has more AP, and has the flak mode now compared to launch.
>>577175614I'm pretty sure there was also an overall change to bleedout at one point, which isn't mentioned here.Cause I remember that launch Chargers used to take forever to die from bleedout.
>>577176098What are you smoking you retard ? Its been continually buffed.https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/AC-8_Autocannon
>>577176168No, in fact its stronger. I think it just got power crept to death
haven't played in a few months and just saw update news about sweden taking the moral highground on dealing with SC cheaters that "ruin the 'economy'", did anything actually change or are they just trying to score brownie points with gamer dads
I love the massive influx of tourist posts around warbond releases
>>577176304You think wrong it's as strong as ever. >>577176342Cheaters got spooked that's it mostly
>>577176367>say something that objectively happened>tourists and retoooorn fags will fight you for itAnd now we got the warhammer fags too
the way the bolt pistol obliterated that berserker was very sexual
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>>577176168It is stronger now than at launch, but it is a jack of all trades weapon and people can just make individual parts of their loadouts specialize in stuff, so it loses out against more dedicated weapons/grenades/stratagems.
>>577176098Its stronger it just cant compete todayShit like the charger turn radius really hurt it. Also once chaff hits a critical level it can’t operate with it’s stationary reload
>>577176632>will be brap divingsorry I am not a trans furry ABDL
>>577176367Nah, warbond releases aren't usually too bad, since it's mostly casuals who play every now and then.It's the major updates that get bad.
>stalwart got buffed multiple times indirectly because it uses the same ammo as the Liberator>Medium MG and Heavy MG are dead in the water and power creep'd to shit>last actual buffs seen in 2024And you faggots are complaining about the autocannon ? lmao
>>577176479it looked like it depleted it's main HP (750)
All the support weapons be running their mouth until the recoilless enters the room
>>577176813>picFunniest shit the devs ever did. They should make fun of copium more often.
>>577176813AH has some weird hateboner for MGs, I remember the HMG not even having a third person crosshair when it released
>>577176802Yeah but its 40k themed.
>>577176342We will see tomorrow if they actually do anything or if it was just some corpospeak nonsense meant to scare cheaters. They probably delayed/gutted the last warbond because they wanted to try to stop cheaters before releasing another one desu.
>>577176897das rite!RRGODS run this general!
I want it, it looks cool
>>577176897>make the mandatory RRslave kill heavies for me+izzat
Surely… this time… maxigun…
>>577176813>>577176957Reminder, the HMG is shooting hollow points. Very media literate from Arrowhead.
>>577176813It was fine before the silly primary powercreep started.
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>>577177110Just use the bullet storm.
I run rr + mech + tank + orbital every game
>>577176985>We will see tomorrow if they actually do anything or if it was just some corpospeak nonsense meant to scare cheaters.They won't do shit lmao
>>577176897
>>577176813Nobody in here even knows how good the Liberator is they all have calcified dadgamer brain that only knows how to use medium pen AR's and explosive primaries.
>>577177276based EATer.
>>577177148Unironically, we never needed primaries to get so strong, just some small tweaksBack then, they really needed to stop spamming chargers so fucking often lmao
>>577177276>he cant even one tap the 3 spore titans running at him
>>577177342I truly despite people who only play meta shit regardless of fun factor.
>>577176813The MG-43 and the HMG are both fine, it's just that the Liberator is the target of appeasement buffs when the playerbase gets a bit too rowdy and retarded. The Liberator powercreep has made weapons like The Adjudicator almost pointless, and buffing the adjudicator for parity runs the risk of making The Diligence worse by creating a medium-pen assault rifle that one-shots devastator heads. (This version of The Adjudicator would be way better than the DCS because it would have slightly higher ergo and MUCH more ammo).
>>577177342I don't know nor care how strong the Liberator is, because I'm a BS&P enjoyer
>>577176342They can't ban anyone still, apparently all they did was cap how many SC you can gain per hour, I saw people saying it cuts off above 3000.Which would be retarded, because you could still spawn enough to buy everything in the game in a nice chill weekend. And you can't just spam drop pods filled with SC apparently, although I saw people say it kinda maybe sometimes works anyway? Don't know didn't try, i'm still loaded up.
>spore bugsrecoiless>borgsSPEAR>everything elseEATsSimple as.
>heavy machine gun>35 durable damagewhat a fucking joke
>>577177446The Mg-43 is ok, but the HMG is fucking dogshit. They gutted the durable damage one day and never reverted it. That with low ergo, high recoil, low ammo. It should hit harder.
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>>577177363I think AT (bar thermite) and heavy enemy changes were good but the rest was just confused. First round of primary buffs (besides eruptor and crossbow) was mostly fine but they kept going and going and going after that
Durable damage and drag should exist, they’re mechanic bloat
>>577177446MG-43 does the same damage as the stalwart, it just got medium pen. And for medium pen, you lose ammo, ergo, being able to move while reloading ...
It pains me that we'll never get backpack belt-fed HMG since the shartigun exists.But thinking about it, they would probably make it even worse than the regular HMG.Funny that the best MG is the dickle with heavy fire armor.
>>577177617FULL
>>577177932>Funny that the best MG is the dickle with heavy fire armor.shit the fuck up and never post this shit again.nerftrannies are listening and they are looking for their next rape target.
>>577177742The Punisher has only ever been buffed once and it's still an amazing primary against bugs.>>577177798I like drag and it's an interesting way of balancing certain weapons. If you removed durable damage from the game you'd have to completely rebalance the damage values or certain weapons would be completely useless. >>577177848It's still a good support weapon. The stalwart has just been buffed in to being retardedly good, as in retards are good with it.
>>577177932We can still hope for a belt-fed heavy shotgun. :)
YeaI remember the slugger…
>>577178097>underrated>every time I take it I wish I had taken Stalwart insteadWait, why is it good and """underrated"""?
>>577178128>If you removed durable damage from the game you'd have to completely rebalanceYea no shit dumbass
>>577178191I remember, the pray&spray with pen 1 ...
>>577178350If it impacts the game that strongly then it's not "bloat". It's a mechanic to make certain enemies weak to specific weapons.
>>577178501just because something has an impact doesn't mean that it's positive. hope this helps
The Kasrkin armor looks so good when you ain't got anon spamming low resolution jpgs telling you it's nasty
>still no new MOoh yeah we are getting squid update tomorrow
>>577178501>If it impacts the game that strongly then it's not "bloat". It's a mechanic to make certain enemies weak to specific weapons.Its a shit mechanic because its explained absolutely nowhere and you have no way to know until you get into meta-knowledge of the game.
>search "helldivers" on youtube>it's all sloptubers who make videos where they ramble about two or three vague post screenshots from the tranny discord>they do this every single day
>>577178380Piece of shit couldn't even destroy terminid eggs
>>577177742Thermite should've absolutely been reworked into a temporary weakspot maker/armour softener. It would've been a lot less braindead and open up more gameplay opportunities.
>>577178501>man my kid has asthma and my dad has lung cancer, wish they’d do something about all this smog>UM ACTUALLY THEY HAVE TO STOP MAKING POLLUTION TO REDUCE THE SMOG
Why are bottards on Matar Bay and not Wasat? They are doing jack shit for liberating Matar Bay and could be accelerating Wasat instead.
>new warbond pricethey made it more expensive lol
>>577178501More like make certain enemies more resistant to specific weapons.
>>577178915>Wasat
>>577178982bro it requires 2100 because there are only 1000 and 2100 packs and you need 1500
>eravin hasn't uploaded in 4 monthsEL OH EL
Such a shame they decided to dumb down the cultists into the current Illuminate because people didn't get their epic references. Oh well, it certainly isn't the first retarded decision they've made. And, as we're about to find out tomorrow, it won't be the last.
>>577177446they stealth nerfed the dureable damage of the hmg though
>they still haven't reworked the sterilizer into the Tox-13 from the first game>they still didn't give it a -1 armor malusRetard devs i hate them so much
ancient squid ruinslotta money in this shit
>>577178982hopexisters....not like this......not like this.........
>>577178982
>>577178058>weak damage>'ok' ROF>inaccurate>AP4 that's only slightly useful because of bad durable damage>requires a dedicated medic to use to it's full potential it's *fine*
>>577179104I wonder how the retard that kept spamming this shit here is feeling right now.
>>577178982retard
>>577179062shh lil bro let me rage bait in peace
>>577179110References to what?Zombie slop?Alien dude with staff?Big meatball?The only things referencing something else are harvesters and the flying saucers.
>brownoids complaining that arrowhead charges money for new things and doesn't work for freeYou can farm credits, too, ya know.
>>577178128>I love bad mechanics so much xdddI fucking hate zoomers so much xddd
>>577178982Sasuga, sweden
>>577178097It has a small niche for cyborgs because it staggers them.
>>577179362What's so bad about durable damage?
>>577178982The cheapest SC bundle that would let you buy it is 2100. The Warbond is 1500.
I love it when pay to play games are monetizied like they're free to play
AH AH more mixed amor perks please
>>577178308Its some opinion piece where he tries to force the damn thing to work. Even by his own admission its a B-C tier at-best weapon and he says it needs buffs
>>577179062>>577179479that still lowkey predatory, I fucking hate "modern" gaymes...
>>577179586there was some EU law that passed recently to make it harder for them to do sothey forced war thunder to allow you to buy a specific premium currency amount lol
>577179454Nigger I aint holding your retarded zoomer hand go reply to the other people who already told you why
>>577178651You don't know how much HP enemies have either so this is mostly just something you can be mad at because of data miners. It works just fine in the background.
>>577178097Its super meta against squids since most enemies cap out at medium armor and it cuts down on chaff.
meltagun looks as if crisper and laser cannon had a childI'll gladly take an AT blowtorch to melt shit as a sapper
>>577179312he still posts his fag shit, just without the pretense
what are the chances we see some new superstore items tomorrow
Guys I fucking LOVE durable damage!
>>577179876zero nada none
>>577179876zero zip null nadaUNLESS they finally reworked the super store as they said they wouldthen like 3%
>>577179789I wonder if people would still be mad if instead of durable damage existing, certain weapons had a damage multiplier to certain body parts. It would be functionally identical, but it would be phrased as some weapons getting bonuses rather than most weapons getting penalties.
>>577179876Zero
>>577179804I tried using MMG on squids but the problem is you usually have to reload mid-battle or mid-breach and stationary reload is just ass.With Stalwart, usually a single mag is enough to last a whole encounter and you can reload while running too so just too many benefits to be using MMG instead of Stalw...
>someone is unironically defending durable damage in this very fucking threadI don't think even on the official shitscord they're fellating the devs so hard
>>577179925devs are millenial, though. if these categories even make sense outside of US
>>577179876100%. It's been a long time since the last warbond and the players have a lot of credits they have passively gained. Arrowhead needs to bleed them off to get more pay piggies.
>>577179328Voteless are basically a reference to the old "zombie infestation caused by something from outer space" trope, and current Illuminate is just the "high tech alien invaders with sleek tech" trope. Though I guess they have a bit of multiple sci fi designs mixed in.
>>577157407You can properly see the scuffed edges and battle damage here, so people really were getting mad for no reason about the texture quality of the armor.
>>577179925hmmm yes because my light pen peashooter should definitely be doing max damage to a heavier target's fleshy bits
>>577178982This shit wouldn't surprise me. AH loves absolutely fucking up whenever they get an ounce of goodwill
>>577179979You should take a gun dog with you to help thin chaff and cover you while you do objectives or reload. My usual squid loadout is mmg, gundog, strafe, orbital laser/walking barrage.
I'll be honest, is durable damage supposed to be something specific? Because all I know is armor levels, then white hit mark means less damage while red hit mark full damage.
>>577179979Stationary reload isn't that bad if you have teammates nearby to take up the slack (which is the point of the mechanic, punishing soloplay). With the current balance, if no Harvester or Stingrays show up, the stalwart is pretty much just better than the MG-43.
>>577180294Gun dog is actually good.
>>577180368if your gun only shoots inert bullets and not explosives then it isn't very good at dealing damage to large volume parts of big enemies
>>577180368You unironically don't need to know more. Durable damage mostly matters on AT enemies, at which point you should be using AT weaponry anyway which by design have a lot of durable damage.Going into details of durable damage is just autistic minmaxing that you do once you have 600 hours in the game and are bored of it.
Reminder that if you hacked in your SCs the cost of the new warhammer DLC is Free ($0)!
>>577180442All of the Dogs are good, granted each is better for different roles.
>only semi decent item on chemical agent warbond is the gas grenadename a more worthless warbond
>>577180368instead of having damage resistance or precision multipliers or whatever, they decided to make a really annoying and convoluted damage system, that's completely hidden, to make weapons do less damage than they're said to do.
>>577180681why did you add a xittertranny image to your post?
>>577180701Wrong! Gas dog has some uses
>>577180701The armors are kino and actually good if you're brapp maxxing. You can just walk around in the middle of gassed bugs.
>>577180701The good thing is that gas grenade is overpowered af once you grow out of your thermite/giga grenade metaslave mindset.I remember getting the warbond exactly just for the grenade.>but its not even overpowered!Good, I am not going to change your opinion, it keeps the nerftrannies away.
>>577180701gas dog is among the biggest crutches in the gamemedium armor looks cutestim pistol
>>577180701>Gas Dog>BadYou niggers really need to stop sleeping on this thing. The medium gas armor also makes you so nigh-immune to gas that it's not a bother, people hype up the heavy armor giving immunity, but the medium set with VitBoost genuinely reduces gas damage down to like 0.5% HP damage per second.
You're going to join a rando 3/4 lobby and see all of them using the melta gun. It's going to ruin the game like the ap4 grenade launcher did. Hopefully arrowhead will quickly realize they messed up and correct the bratty melta gun.
>Rirga Bay's planet health has been increasedI can't wait for a 5 day defense MO until we can finally get to the new shit
>>577180701>gas grenade>only semi decentthese are the people that cry every new gun isn't heavy pen, btw
>>577180368Every weapon has a base damage and a durable damage. When you hit part of an enemy, the damage you do is partially determined by the durability of the part. If a part is 0% durable you do the base damage, if the part is 100%, you do the durable damage. The HMG does 150 base damage, but 35 durable damage, so most of the limbs on a Bile Titan will only take 35 damage from it (which is then multiplied by 65% because of the armor match penalty). It's worth noting that durable damage follows certain patterns. Laser weapons generally have lower durable damage as a percentage of their base damage, with the exceptions of the laser cannon and the quasar cannon. Ballistic weapons have durable damage around 20-35% of their base damage, with the AMR being an exception. Explosions ignore durability (functionally 100% durable damage) and anti-tank weapons generally also have 100% durable damage. >>577180582This is true. You can mostly ignore the technical details and just judge the weapon based on experience. >>577180789Durable damage is a form of damage resistance.
>>577180701its mandatory for the medic LARP
>>577181150ap4 grenade launcher saved the game actually. sorry pedotrannies like yourself didn't understand
>>577180701>only players can do gas damage>you don't want to be in a gas cloud anyway>only 80% gas resistanceNuke swiggers
>>577178982God these armors look like shit. Why did they go with such an obscure choice and such a cartoon version of karskin.
>>577181282Support/medic warbond when ?
>>577180701Chemical Agents gives you the gas grenade, gas dog, and medium gas armor for maximum brapping. It's one of the better bonds.>name a more worthless warbondPic related, not a single good item.
>>577181282our medics should hang out
Dead space warbond when?
>>577181261>Durable damage is a form of damage resistance.It's technically a form of it, yeah. A really fucking annoying form, though.
>>577180701siege breakersfull of terrible stuff like the meme hammer or the BFGL and a worthless armor perk. The shield grenade is about the only good thing it has. I don't know why this warbond gets a pass, it's genuinely D tier at best
>>577181406Sadly right. This whole warbond is just larp maxxing. I wish the assault rifle was at least good, but it got very little ammo and a long ass reload. Its cancer.
>>577181502What would make it less annoying?
content tomorrow retards
>>577155053>"Theyre humanities elite just like the helldivers are told they are"Bro, when are these devs going to stop self-reporting that they cant clear D6?
>>577181449were are both bottoms, how would that even work?
>>577181168It's because of new cities. But IIRC planet HP has no bearing on defense HP, the later is only up to the invasion level. Maybe we'll be defending it from new enemies.
>>577181585I'm a power switchthat shit only turns me on
>>577181406The shotgun was somewhat okay until it got completely invalidated by the Sweeper the very next warbond
>>577181576hopesissy getting rowdy again...
>>577181406>We didn't even get a SPNKr rocket launcher, Spartan Laser, Sniper Rifle etc. with this to at least pad it out with a stratagem
>>577180701>>577181406at least those have usable weapons and utilitythis piece of shit on the other hand has 0 redeeming qualities about it, aside from maybe the cosmetics
https://x.com/LunaAlphaLilita/status/2087228012752466040Part of the OST got leaked, its KINO
>>577181406>>577181552Only suppressed side arm in the game for commando
>>577180701>>577181406>>577181752Impressive how everyone in this thread can be wrong at the same time.
>>577181752This got my favorite armor ever tho. And the perk isn't bad after the buff. That alone makes it the best warbond in the game. Also, don't forget about the flag.
>>577181846I'm never wrong
>>577181846the izzat rivers are overflowing today
>>5771776173/4
>>577181730The shotgun was shit from the starting line, it had no discernible advantages over the Punisher. The Sweeper is what the M90a should have been.
>>577181893siege ready is better in every wayflag is meme shit
>>577181450I'd like it, but probably never ever
>>577181757They went ful horror movie mode. Perhaps its gonna be good.
>>577181893>Flag now draws aggro because reddit bitched like the retards they are >No one ever uses it now because its certain death
>>577181802The re-educator is silenced
>enemies have HP>enemies have HP for each individuals parts>enemies have armor>enemies can have different armor values for each individual part>enemies have elemental resistances>”Hmmm, yea, this still isn’t enough, lets add a convoluted system where certain weapons just do magically less damage with zero feedback. Its not armor, just magic RPG armor” >”Also the damage reduction is based off a magic wizard equation”
>>577181752The Amendment is my guilty pleasure, and the sparklers are surprisingly good
>>577182113just shoot your fucking gun lmao
>>577181757sounds exactly like what you'd play when you drop down and fight a space cult :)but yeah they were scrapped... such a shame right, my enlightened redditors?
>>577181846>Criticizes yet offers no suggestion for the shittiest warbondShut up bitch
>>577181304Use the beltfed grenade launcher if you want ap4. Ap4 on the normal launcher was completely broken.
>>577182098>blaming reddit when its clearly the swedes being petty fucks as alwaysfaggot
>>577182105Its so shit I had forgotten it exists like the Sterilizer. That garbage can't kill anything.
>>577182098even before the "buff", why would you ever use it over the other support meleeseven chainsaw can be good fun with a shield pack
>>577181757found a full versionthe youtube link attached to that xitter post is unavailablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EO4U5hbriA
>>577182246nah you just needed to take off your crutch pack
>join console player on his D10 bot command bunker mission>we are done in under 20 minutes>every single person in the team has less than 100 killsDo console players basically play the game on baby diapers mode???
>>577182162Simmer down timmy the adults are talking
>>577182172cuz they all have something interesting in them. I'd say Killzone but even that has the stupid gimmick plasma gun that kills some stuff fast
>>577182262Literally every negative change to HD2 has been caused by reddit complaints.
>>577181994>failedit's jover
>>577182113You forgot main hp pools, transfer to main hp damage, damage overflow flags, fatal parts, constitution hp, and bleed out rates.
>armory peopleloadouts?>PLACE UR BETSPLACE UR BETS>PLACE UR BETS
>>577182264The reducator is good for stealth though
>>577182291Fuck yeah, I was hoping for a new track and it sounds kino as fuck
cultist doomfag deniers? your copes? your apologies? any regrets?WEAREEATINGFUCKINGWELL
>>577182341I can already see myself getting ragdolled to death with the last part of this music in background.
>>577182262>defending redditFuck off newfag
>>577181583>my stack>a guy who doesn't play FPS games at all>a LARPmaxxer who uses shit like smoke and battlements>a console peasant>and me on a shit rig 20 fps average with FSR>all over 30>can clear D9
>>577182316Bot bunkers need to be hellbomb only and gunship fabs should be vulnerable like detector towers.
https://youtu.be/7EO4U5hbriA?si=TW_kttLZt17pzJa1Post was deleted, reposting
>>577182264you don't use it to kill stuff, you use it for utility or to combohulks become sitting vent targets with this thing, stuns up to 18 of em with a full supply
>>577182393Name one good item in the Halobond that isn't a sidegrade at best.
>>577182427is there anything more vile and disgusting than a community manager? excited to see the reaction of the general chat in the helldivers discord when they read a patch note?
>>577182013It one shots light enemies more reliably than either of these, has nearly twice the durable damage than them and has an actual stagger compared to sweeper.
>>577180701Surprising lack of Polar Patriots mention.>no worthwhile weapon>armor doesn't even have a unique passive>booster used to fucking BUFF THE ENEMIES>One of the armors is a fucking RECOLOR of the base game
>>5771824271 map tileset2-3 enemiesMinor changes and buffs which dont materially change how people play 40k warbond (functional but uglyThis is the entire update period.
>>577181718good, that means less work for me.maybe one day we will finally ERP in a lobby
>>577182703Sweeper kills harder and faster thanks to the slamfire.
>>577182669>no bro its actually great even though no one uses it and it cant kill anything think of this hypothetical support role!Smoke the extraction more sissy
>>577181757
>>577182843There are plenty of good weapons that are underused because the playerbase either doesn't know they are good or refuse to learn how to use them.
>>577182679Well we don't have any real silenced secondaries besides that one so there is that. And I consider M90A the best real shotgun that's not Trident even if it's theoretically a 'sidegrade'.
>>577182427Oh my god you can finally...customize the armor mannequin...HYPED no but seriously its probably just loadouts, a basic qol feature thats been requested for two years. Maybie armor customization if we're lucky
>>577182660cool if it isn't sloppa
>>577183007>And I consider M90A the best real shotgunNot while the Double Freedom and Sweeper exists it ain't.
helldiver voteless
>>577182810Firing another shell with a shotgun to finish off something is always an issue if you have only 7 rounds in the mag, even if the fire rate is good. The best way to use shotguns is to reload the after every shot anyway.
>>577182427Rape baskinator to death
Cultistbros.......... how are we feeling about tomorrow?
>>577183332>lemoncelis this what they make limoncello out of?
>>577183097one has shitty gay reload and one has no stagger and less damage. they are both good but I prefer M90A overall
All new themes except for maybe the hive planet theme have been excellent. Makes fighting the enemy more enjoyable
Maybe one last mindless masses game before the patch changes the illuminate forever?D10 mindless masses, but you are allowed to pick >only EAGLE stratagemssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241796453943/76561198005075969
>>577183097muzzle attachments would fix m90
>>577182427>that i hope brings them peacethis is either armor customization or an extremely out of touch statementStratagems aren't part of the armory so I can't imagine that it could be mission loadouts either.
>>577183392It'll be our little secret
>>577183490>extremely out of touch statementKnowing the swedes, it's that
>>5771834562/4
>title update tomorrowSHOW ME YOUR (helldivers) WARFACESAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>577183782
>>577183396>one has shitty gay reloadDon't care, get pooped on
>>577183782MEGA FLESHMOB TOMORROW
>>577183456FVLL
>>577183332feeling a little detached, you might even say removed
>>5771834564/4
>>577183995I want to believe, but I'm ready to be disappointed
STERILIZER ACID BUFF TOMORROW
>>577183846I don't use the warp crutch so this doesn't come in handy that often. But M90A is kinda ok for Hulk backshots, you need 3.
>enabled HDR once to test my new monitor>disable it because i dont want webms and screenshots to be fucked>game is now permanently washed outdoes anyone know how to fix this shit?
>>577184197If the Sterilizer and orbital gas both got acid as part of their mechanics, it would actually give them a needed niche over the gas dog, gas grenades and gas mines.
>>577184473doesn't OBS have a new HDR to SDR filter now?
>>577174218You can just loot it off a dead teammate, or ask, you know
>>577184826orbital gas does not need to be buffed and definitely not by giving it the acid effectacid should be exclusive to the sterilizer and re-educator to give them a distinct advantage over the other gas options to justify their far greater drawbacks
>>577183332Already accepted they aren't coming because of retarded and stubborn devs. But, if by some miracle they do come tomorrow, then I'll forgive arrowhead for everything ever.
I am looking forward to the new update
>>577156178What's the armor passive anyway
>>577185002Disagree, orbital gas has fell off pretty hard as time has gone on. Orbital gatling is better for the same cooldown in regards to suppression, and gas grenades are better for sustained area denial. The gas mines, while having a longer cooldown, are more effective for denying a certain area longterm.
>>57718517320% better handling of weapons, 30% faster reload speed
>>577184473If it's the game and not on your PC's side of things have you tried deleting the config in appdata yet
>not a single gun in the game has a bolt hold-open device>bolt riding animationsGrunt fantasy
>>577182660>hasn't been any patches for a month>suddenly, a "new" music leak the day before the updateIncredible bait
>>577185173+20 weapon handling (applies to everything)+30% faster support weapon reloadingAll your guns feel less like shit, buffing up heavier weapons, and all your support weapons with a reload mechanic go way faster.
>>577183097>Double FreedomIt's powerful but an ammo hog with only two shots. It's a shotgun that leans more into "guaranteed kill" than "crowd control">SweeperYeah this thing's good, idk what the fuck AH was thinking because it overshadows a good portion of shotguns in the roster.
How high do y'all niggers think the steam numbers will go for the update?50k? 80k? would you say 10 million?
>>577185676271k
550 billion
>>577185676
>>577184197they can't because they've already stated the gas is caustic and corrosive. if they wanted it to be acidic they'd have to model entirely new gas
>>577185676at least 6 million maybe even 300 million
>be breakthrough mech>enter cave>find poor little baby footdiver stranded>completely surrounded about to die>blast half the horde from distance with shottie>ENTER by slamming the rest against the wallfeels fucking great
>>577185869>acidic gas>entirely new type of gasUnderstood, put it in canisters and give to Eagle-1 as an airborne chemical attack.
>>577185676cyberstan got 200k and nobody likes squids so 100k max
>>577179569Medium penetration needs buffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TraeWCgIKhM
OkYou get ONE mech per missionBUT you get a backpack that resupplies half the mech ammo/hp twicewhat do you say swiggers
>>577185992I wish I could target bile titan legs and snap them like branches.
>>577185645The Sweeper is a good example of power creep. If you compare it to the Punisher, the closest thing to it, the Sweeper utterly mogs it in every single metric except magsize and stagger/push force.
>>577186247>ok you get a straight nerfinnovative and thought provoking
I hope the patch nerfs mech armor so they aren't instant win buttons vs. Bugs.
>>577186247toomuchwork/10
>>577186394The community would crucify them
>>577186307l-lewd
>>577186224https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EO4U5hbriAFor those who don't have a vpn to bypass the timezone lock stuff
>>577186307I wish this thing had more ammo, the shotgun fucks so hard
>>577186308>the sweeper is better in every way except these things where it isn't Yea those are the tradeoffs. You lose stagger and sustain compared to the normal punisher. I'm glad arrowhead ignores the players when it comes to balance.
>>577186394>instant win buttons vs. Bugsthere'd still be this one
>>577186371you'll just need to lower difficulty hun
Okay you faggots convinced meHow do I cheat SCs?
>>577186587>you lose stagger (doesn't matter since it'll kill whatever the Punisher could stagger) >you lose sustain (doesn't matter because its damage output, coverage, total ammo, and reload speed blows the punisher of it the water)
>>577181757>>577182291>>577182341>>577182660>>577186224>>577186567ammo is expensive so I need you attention whores to huddle together
>>577186824XD
Its a secret only known to the most ELITE divers
>>577186992Is it possible to learn this power?
>>577186992…is that suppose to be a clue…?
tomorrow we become /coopg/
It's peakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EO4U5hbriA
>>577186824don't youll go to Swedish jail!!
>>577186714
Damn, the campaign armor looks like shit and is shit
>>577187458its good for noobs who dont own other fire resist bullshit
>>577185292i consider that a last resort since i don't want to reset all my binds and settings but i could at least try changing the HDR setting from the ini, maybe
Squid women in tomorrow's update?
is the clone for this game out yet?
Can someone get me the Cyberstan and Hive Worlds versions?I'm curious how the Composer's interpretation sounds
>>577185383>>577185287Bretty gud, tanks.
Hope this fucker returns tomorrow
>>577186824LATE AS FUCK BRUH
leaker from the future hereDuring the upcoming event the cultists will get so desperate they'll start doing some really fucked up sacrifice dark magic stuff with SE citizens and will end up summoning the 4th faction AKA DemonsThey won't have a specific front, instead they'll pop up in between the 3 factions front on completely random planetes, they can also spawn with Cultists
>>577187675Helldivers is a clone of EDF
>>577188026yeah but I want the clone of a clone in hopes that each iteration will improve on the former
>>577186824>t. Hannibal of Carthage
>>577188026>couldn't make Wingdivers or Fencerspretty shitty clone, then
>doomsissies will be rapped tomorrow beacuse new content>hope sissies will be rapped tomorrow beacuse the update will be shit anywaysit's truly incredible the balancing act AH has achieved
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>>577186824it should be preloaded on your GameShark or Action Replay, just press select on the title screen to activate it.
>>577185334They posted it too early on their official account and took it down.
>>577188513by """accident""" of course
>>577182713You forgot>One dozen new bugs>Several fixes get unfixed because every engineer is working from their own separate build>Three completely random, unrelated to anything changes break mechanics>Impaler corpses now Giga Drill Breaker through the skybox
I expect most of the mods to break tomorrow, so here we are.
I'm so excited squidbros and hmg bros
at this point they should just embrace jank corpses killing people and just make a unit that grabs corpses and flails them around
>>577188338no u splitface
Doomsissies status?
>>577188908Purge your mods, delete you shader cache, don't have any caffeine <6 hours before bed & take some magnesium
EATs are fucking terrible.
>warbond is bad>fags whine>warbond is good>fags whine
>>577189758raped and gaped
>>577189825Reduced Signature armorEATsXMGsLevellerPortable HellbombConcealed Insertion boosterUse the XMGs and EATs to create spammable smoke cover and run in with the Hellbomb. Have fun.
>>577189825https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/get-help/
>>577189870Welcome to /hdg/
Squid front preperations status?
>>577189793The fuck is any of that supposed to do?
>>577190087Democracy protects.
>>577190087locked in
>>577189793dumb fuck
>>577190263>Equality on Sea
>>577190087Why is he wiping his chin he has a helmet on
>>577190087Come what may.
>>577190550habit
>reverses your controls
>>577190225>purge your modspurges your mods>delete you shader cachedeletes your shader cache>don't have any caffeine <6 hours before bed allows your body to metabolize so that it doesn't disrupt your sleep cycle, though 4 hours is probably more than enough for most people>take some magnesiumtreats magnesium deficiency common in people with poor diets
>>577190690>No...>YOU'RE NOT IN THIS UPDATE
>if a weapon does not one shot every enemy, it is shit>if a stratagem or weapon offers an unusual playstyle that is not just cookie cutter shit, it is trashThis place truly is full of dadgamer-tier shitters, isn't it?
>>577190937If the weapon performs worse than existing options, then it's shit, yes.
>>577190690>*smacks lips*>"The ssshhqueed thangmajangler is the new enemy on the squid front. He specializes in thangmajangling your controls...">"I'll be honest with ya'll... Worst enemy design since the meatballs. What the hell were you thinking Arrowhead? How is this fun for anyone?!"
>>577191105seek help for your obsession
*mogs Diligence**kills Justice poster*
>>577191364zero reason to take this over diligence
>>577191105>Proceeds to show a clip of him walking off the edge after having 5 business days to react to reversed controlsHonestly I dont think the enemy reversing your controls will be in the game. This is the chance to save the squids. Not make them worse.
>>577191364I completely forgot about the Justice posting
>>577191445It's literally superior in every fucking stat besides drag over 50 meters and bullet drop. Larger magazine, better ergo, lower recoil, same damage, etc. If you can't compensate for the bullet drop, then you don't deserve to be using marksman rifles to begin with.
>>577191538the fate of all avatarfags
>>577191364>atrocious bullet speed and falloffHate it
>>577191751>>577191751>>577191751>>577191751>>577191751
>>577191764t. bad
Listening to the new track and getting a little hyped but I also don't want to be disappointed
>>577189870>everyone is actually one person
>>577183456GGs
>>577191856did you feel personally called out when I said "fags cry" or something?
>>577190937>if a weapon needs to hit weakpoints, it's shit>if the weapon cannot onetap heavies, it's shit>if the weapon isn't point-and-click, it's shit>if the weapon doesn't play the game for you, it's shit
>>577191610>same damage>better (but actually worse if you can read) ergo>worse stagger (more stagger is actually a negative on marksman rifles)>smaller stock magazine (only larger if you take an ergo/reload time penalty)>dogshit bullet speed>bullet dropagain, no reason to take it over diligence except for stealth larp
>>577192604The ergo is better even with the larger magazine. Actually built your guns right.>dogshit bullet speed>bullet dropNon-issues, get good.
>>577181752sparkler grenades are one of the game's best.
>>577193352>bullet drop and bullet speed don't matter for a long range precision rifleIt actually affects damage, with Diligence not aiming for headshots it takes less rounds at 100m+ to down a devastator through the stomach weakpoint and it only gets worse the further the target is. At over 350m you can no longer one tap devastators to the head with Censor even if you account for bullet drop and travel time.Censor is great, but it's not a straight upgrade to Diligence and does not override its role.
