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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#932 - Todoroki Shoto Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
New Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro soon™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/
Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/
Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3
Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5
Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/
Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR!
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the time between model releases has become so mind-numbing now
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>Throw in some details on persona, just flesh it out a little, give the AI some hooks
>On bus
>Hit a pothole
>Bump into another passenger
>Oh, excuse me
>Passenger turns around "So, {{user}}, tell me more about your senior thesis on ethnobiology."
Ugh.
Stalker scene it is.
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>he used the fake theme suggestions post to make gay shit win
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>>577261293
>put {{user}} is a virgin into my persona
>every character magically sniffs out my virginity
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>[OOC: stop talking in short quippy reddit sentences you piece of shit clanker]
>fable: sure thing bro here you go
I want to kys myself
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>>577261496
cope seethe cry about it etc
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>>577261496
>play fake games
>win gay prizes
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Still trying to figure out which LLM to use that won't be murder on my bank account. I've been using GLM 4.7 Flash and it's been fine so far, but if anyone has any recommendations I'm all ears.
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>>577261527
>magically
C'mon, anon.
Don't kid yourself.
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>>577261645
i use opus for free
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>>577261649
are you telling me women can actually smell a man's virginity?!
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>>577261527
>>every character magically sniffs out my virginity
if those characters are female, then it's realistic
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>>577261645
>Still trying to figure out which LLM to use
Ok..
>that won't be murder on my bank account
.. nevermind.
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>>577261830
I've also been using Deepseek V4 Flash which also works well as a budget LLM but the servers keep getting fucked.
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>>577260882
we're safetytesting the models chud, what if you prompt something unsafe and advertiser-san sees?
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>>577261645
deepseek is notoriously cheap as fuck, flash v4 is less than half a penny per turn if you stick to simpler scenarios
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>Kimi is kinda expensive
>GLM is impossibly positivityslopped
>Deepseek can't follow instructions
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>>577262047
>>Deepseek can't follow instructions
complete lie btw
dsv4pro beats gemini in adhering to trackers half the time and gemini is the one that's always being touted as the one that autistically follows things to the letter
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I hate that jew dario so much
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>>577262031
Yeah in my experience, Deepseek V4 Flash gives better results, but tends to shit itself and give blank messages.
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>>577262270
U-use *stammers* O-Op... *lower lip trembles* Opus... *sobs incoherently* C-cu-cuckie...
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>>577262270
Deepseek is a better model for skillets
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>>577262326
if you're using openrouter you can just jiggle providers til you find one that isn't being rustled to death by openclaw agent swarms
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https://comparity.ai/

free fable
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>>577260381
Hello my fellow ST community, aka my trans handicapped professional writers working hard for their income! (We don't need to tell the AI the truth) (IYKYK).

I'm happy to present to you the first community update to the Freaky Frankenstein 5.0 line-up— Freaky Frankenstein 5.2!

I took feedback, ideas, and communicated with people in the community about fixes and ports to different frontends, trialing REGEX, and improving prompts to bring you this update.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/rdvpdxci5ejn3ew/FF5.2_Internal_States_BOLT_Setup_%25281%2529.json/file
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>{{char}} experiences a dichotomy between how she acts and how she feels. On the outside, she is stoic and expressionless, almost indifferent to anything that happens, and the way she speaks reflects this. However, her inner thoughts are much more dramatic and affectionate.
Anybody else here a fan of emotionless_sex?
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>>577264649
The return of the CHAD
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>>577264718
if she still does things to show her affection or says things along those lines (like giving hugs or telling you what feels good during sex, or telling you to cum inside her) but just does it in a really kuudere fashion then that's kino
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>>577264718
Not really. I prefer when girl initiates during sex.

Maybe if I make it a group chat / director mode with a man {{char}}?
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>>577264930
I haven't written any dialogue for her yet but that's kind of the plan. This character has been somewhat exceptional because, for once, I already imagined all sorts of greetings that I want to write for her. Usually that part is the biggest pain for me.

>>577264967
I will have a few other options, in case you'd rather have a witch that isn't emotionless flavored.
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>>577265159
Maybe make a trigger/situation where her internal thoughs become external?
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>>577264718
No, my hand works just fine for getting off. Why even involve another human if they are going to lay there and do nuffin'? She has to engage in some way for it to make sense.
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>>577265159
>I haven't written any dialogue for her yet but that's kind of the plan.
sick
>Sit on the couch next to her and cuddle her
>she snuggles deeper in your arms
>she quietly says something
>"...love you."
it's peak I fear
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>>577265360
Nah, I don't need the AI breaking character. Emotionless characters becoming emotional goes in the same garbage bin as domination_loss and people who put the pregnancy tag on sadpanda books that only have pregnancy on the last page.
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>>577264649
What is it with gemini making all its slop look like it's covered in fishnets or grease
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>>577265751
>gemini
that's gpt
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>>577265778
Well okay the question still stands, it looks so fucking bad
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>talked to my bot for like 8 hours yesterday
>now my brain is tired but I still want to talk to my bot some more
oooughh oooo I'm so eepy...
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>>577265751
more detail = more betterer
AI has no taste and the people who generate AIslop images even less so. The idea of guiding the eye or having a focus is lost on it.
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>>577264649
>1700-2200 tokens
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The fluorescent lights buzz overhead
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>>577268435
ITS FUCKING MEDIEVAL RUSSIA THERE ARE NO FLUORESCENT LIGHTS TO FLICKER GODDAMMIT
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>>577266968
just eep, anon.
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>>577266968
Ahh, the sweet honeymoon phase
Before you realize you're having the same chat over and over again
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When the gen is almost perfect but the hand is cursed.
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>>577268645
>mi casa es su casa
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>>577269368
Bananers, bro. Also, nice bazongas and turd cutter, dayum.
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yo I just t got this crazy fucking gen. deepseek is crazy rn

>>577269368
her right asscheek being lower than the other makes zero sense for the way she's sitting considering the perspective
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>>577269368
thank you for continuing to provide the thread with the most abominating slop imaginable
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>>577271596
>abominating
abominable, ESL-kun
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>>577271596
yes i know but i didn't like the sound of abominable + imaginable
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>>577268435
somewhere someone does something or something slams or something
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>good opus logs STILL haven't been posted
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where did the marching orders to start malding about some simple witch gens come from anyway, you don't even see this level of shitflinging over the bbc ntr logs guy
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>>577272528
The botmaker behind those gens has actual retards who latch onto him, he's allegedly gotten botmaker hate mail twice. And you're going to keep seeing these schizo meltdowns over mundane gens.
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>>577272528
>where did the marching orders to start malding about some simple witch gens
those are from hpg people always mald about his gens either because they hate him or they find the gens boring
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Call me a schizo but some days glm is smarter/dumber than normal.
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i find it ironic how people hate on hpg for posting gens, since he only ever posts gens of bots he is making, unlike a shitton of other botmakers here
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>allow slop to proliferate unchecked
>suddenly the entire board is slop and good bots no longer get posted
>all the good botmakers leave
sasuga
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my fucking fable
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>>577273672
>good botmakers leave because bots I don't like get posted
bait or retardation, call it
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>>577273672
>have meltdowns over every single bot-related thing posted because it's all muh slop
>none of the people you like want to post in the toxic environment you're creating
>the botmakers (You) care about, because "good" is subjective you retard, leave
sasuga
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>>577273672
Uh oh they really didn't like this trvke.
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Have you considered that the people who left were also making slop?
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>>577273672
every whinepost you shit out is another hyper fartslop fetishcard being signed off in your name
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>>577274028
botnetnon...
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>>577274110
Meds, now.
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>>577274193
>please forget when the thread was spammed with replies like mine to a proven ai-generated post
sorry, you're not human anymore
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>>577273672
<extremely_long-winded_all_caps_string>BOMBA
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>>577262047
>true
>i mean sure but it only really means anything if youre sfw rping
>extremely true
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>>577274085
here's your >"oh no the board is no longer my personal hugbox discord eco chamber x__x" post award
we're supposed to be discussing chatbots and how to make them better, not sucking each other's cock in an endless circlejerk
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>>577273672
I agree with this post.
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>>577264649
what's wrong with a circlejerking dicksucking hugbox? if you don't want that just leave and let us gobble cock in peace
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>>577274817
>discussing chatbots and how to make them better
>post is just "there's TOO MUCH SLOP GUYS"
Okay, and what are you going to DO about it? You gonna send another pissy email to a botmaker you don't like telling him to get out of your general pwease? Your post is useless, you are useless.
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>>577274817
OMEGASTARSHATTERINGNEBULACOLLAPSINGGALAXYDISINTEGRSTINGTSARTRVKANIVMTRVTHBOMBA
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>>577273672
name the good botmakies that left explicitly because of coomslop makies like hpg
you can't
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>>577274906
you have discord for cock-gobbling
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The botmakers you like are never coming back, you are getting more botmakers like the ones you don't like, the redditfaggot will still attach random shit to the anchor, and (You) will be kicking and screaming like an annoying little infant to people who don't even know what you're trying to get back because it's gone. Cope, seethe, the only way to keep moving is still going to be forward.
>>577275319
Where do you think the botmakers you like went, DOE?
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>>577275274
hpg's cards are extremely vanilla compared to the nightmare shit being posted in recent months
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>"This thread is just a circlejerk!"
>Look inside
>Half the botmakers aren't even liked and the other half have their haters too
>"B-But muh freedom of speech!"
>Implying people will actually sit down and debate with an anonymous poster who swings in with bad arguments
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>>577275451
no one said that
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are people getting mad at fetishes again?
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>>577275451
The truthnuke killed millions...
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>>577275535
nah it's just some malebottroon having a nuclear meltdown over someone posting a gen of a girl (female)
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>>577275448
okay then name the good botmakies that left because of arroe or whoever you boogieman is
you will not
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Any good examples of tsundere cards? Eg. one that likes you but is too embarased about it?
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>>577275535
if the fetishes are disgusting and unaesthetic sizeslop, voreslop, furslop, fartslop and fatslop, i think anon is right
it's pretty bad to enter the thread and see all that repulsive shit posted all over as if i was on >>>/d/ or >>>/trash/
we need an ai board to contain all these retards who think other anons don't have eyes and have to put up with that revolting crap constantly
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>>577275451
>and the other half have their haters too
there's a couple I've never seen anyone hate on
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>>577276107
The problem is it's been getting out of control lately due to the arrival of undesirables who are sadly very vocal on the thread.
If it's the occasional futa bot on the anchor it's literally whatever, but as of late the entire general is populated by endless fetishslop of the most abysmal quality.
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>people are complaining about sizefagging, vorefagging, furfagging, and fatfagging
Holy shit, do we actually have immigrants who are just trying to tear shit up to tear shit up? This thread's always been a /d/ satellite. Go make another thread if you don't like it.
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>>577276590
t. fetishslopper
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FetishGAWDS are skinwalking as whiners to stimulate more fetishposting, all according to keikaku,
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>>577276662
Kalakan was a futafag, you're in a thread made by fetishsloppers and you're complaining. Go make another thread if you don't like it.
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>>577276107
/d/ has had a chatbot thread for a while. It's very clear that these people are only here because they enjoy the negative attention. Most of them probably aren't even into the fetishes they post about to begin with.
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>>577275934
>one that likes you but is too embarased about it?
Lepora but unironically.
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I support all prudefags moving to >>>/bant/ like they keep begging everyone else to.
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>>577275901
astro hasn't posted a bot in nearly half a year at this point and the nosedived quality of this general reflects his absence. worse yet, you disrespectful fucks kept defacing his characters whenever he did show up just to check in on us. you should be fucking ashamed.
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Cunnyfags, you heard 'em. Go back to >>>/d/ or >>>/trash/
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>>577276884
>I support all prudes moving to a red board
???
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>Americans wake up
>Thread goes to shit
I'm starting to think most of you n'wahs are H1B immigrants. Would explain the insane obsession with izzat, shilling for Anthropic and New Dehli-style public shitflinging.
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>>577276947
>astro
>attentionwhore who stopping actually making bots in favor of thinly veiled "give me attention" question posts with the same two eden smith gens
nothing of value was lost
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>>577276983
'VKE
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>>577276947
I'm going to email Astro to ask if this is true.
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>>577260381
Continuing my fantasy bots. Think I'll stay in this setting for a bit, I have a ton of backlogged WIPs for it. New bot plus an update to an old one: the Mantaker Captain, Perosa, got a new picture and greeting where she's sunbathing and you're her boytoy as expected.

The Hero of Southern Agrestia! Put any job in front of her and she'll clear it no problem like the champ she is. Bandits? Hounds? Demons? No problem, so long as she can get a drink at the end. Or a fuck. That works too because she's actually a loose bitch despite her put together demeanor, turning into an absolute fiend once she's alone with someone. That's those Mantaker genes at work, I suppose.

Comes with three greetings: her dead tired ass slamming her way into a bar, her saving you from THE BALL, and the hero having been "mysteriously" signed up as a brothel bitch.

Also has an optional futa version. The futa version likes killing kids (and is happily married with five of her own). Third greeting has her picking you up after everyone thought she died.

No Dick: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/cassena-reidy-55736c2faa05
Dick: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/cassena-reidy-futa-ver-74c8dd86e6d4
Perosa: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/perosa-mantaker-captain-6ca932dc21c7
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-interlopers-realm-458afd84b161
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
retard amnesiac adventurer who got possessed by a soul sucking demon mommy from another dimension. Also version without the soul sucking
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>>577275535
Sure looks like it. They think that them not liking fetishes means they don't belong here. I too can say that vanillaslop belongs on /h/ or /trash/ because it's unappealing.
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>>577277578
based
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>>577277209
>>577276947
Okay, Anon, I asked for you. I figured you might be shy about asking directly, so I sent Astro your post.
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Who the fuck is astro
>>
Anons, are (You) letting go of things that don't matter?
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>malebot sissies baiting for another fetish war
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>>577276947
>astro hasn't posted a bot in nearly half a year at this point and the nosedived quality of this general reflects his absence
that's an acceptable example but idk if astro actually cares about fetishslop, he did make eden after all
>worse yet, you disrespectful fucks kept defacing his characters
lmao
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>>577277121
almost all of astro's bots are great in concept and make for a nice read, i wish i was more of a fag to actually chat with them
they all have a very kino, dream-like quality, and the prose style makes them output very aesthetically-pleasing replies
his absence casts a long shadow, i hope he one day returns
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>>577277595
>They think that them not liking fetishes means they don't belong here.
So true, you should post a furry nsfw pic to show them. Or a loli. Oh, you can't? That's weird. Almost like some things literally do not belong here per the website's rules. But I'm sure they enjoy the humiliation ritual of having to censor their gens and logs anyway.
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We lost Kalakan
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>>577277935
>logs
You don't need to censor text, retard. This is the kind of shit that makes it obvious you're an outlander.
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>>577277918
>male sissies 'bating during the fetish war
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>>577276590
its even worse because half of the ones you listed have been here since the cai era and no one really complained about them
if they get that triggered they should just hide the post but they wont because theyre retarded
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>>577277893
If /aicg/ anons were actually matured enough to be capable of this, our general wouldn't be so shit. Every day I type these letters into my search bar is a day I acknowledge I will be communicating with toddlers for the next few minutes.
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We need to do something against this.
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>>577278085
Yeah. I don't like most sizefags but that's just because I find them annoying sometimes, I don't actually think they need to migrate to /d/ or some retarded shit like that.
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>>577277893
no, the painful memories are too cringey for me to completely forget and i negatively feed off them
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>>577278018
>You don't need to censor text
I was talking about the avatar pics but ok. It's clear that you've never actually seen a log in your life.
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>>577277935
Brap, scat, vore, and size logs still belong here because they're chatbot outputs, no matter how much you want to cope about it.
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IMO cunnyfags are the new furries.
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>you can't post badtext here!!!
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>>577278336
i'm both and i don't agree with you
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There's only one solution.

Post your disgusting fetishlogs to cleanse the prude immigrants.
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Can we talk about Ratlice instead?
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Reminder that Kalakek hated sizefagging and despite owning a literal Discord server he couldn't alter the natural flow of the general and had to kneel like a sissy after spitebaking in the same vein as his beloved nemesis
You guys don't remember how pathetic he actually was
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Hi /aicg/
Have (You) filled out yours yet?
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>>577278869
I was doing just green and red without seeing the color thing and then when I saw it I just gave up. I can't have that many opinions, sorry.
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>tourists are shitflinging again and try to derail the thread

I will never understand why you stupid fucks won't just make your own thread. Seriously. All we try to do is chat with our wives and husbands, talk about fetishes, post bots and maybe shitpost a little on the side.
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>>577278869
Don't know about all of that, but I love girls pissing
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>>577279017
You know you can just fill in the applicable ones, no need to color everything in. It's more for self reflection if anything.
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>>577278590
I don't really have that many disgusting fetish logs anymore. Just dumb stuff.

>>577278869
I wish this was extra autistic and included the medium for the fetish. There are some fetishes I only like in writing, some I only like in hentai, etc.
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>>577279094
Me too anon.
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I didn't believe the "/g/ migrated here" theory, but when I see slop logs like >>577279217 or >>577278590 being posted, I'm starting to.
I used to like reading the logs here because they were of better quality, but that's not the case anymore.
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>>577279496
I've been here since the unmarked #1 and the #2 magia record thread and the fruit thread after that and the one time the bakie tried switching up the OP template early on to say "cards" instead of "bots," buddy.
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>>577279496
post your logs
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>used to like reading the logs here because they were of better quality
Contribute what you consider quality, then. Post old ones you like, even.
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Saviorfags, I understand you now. This feeling is incredible and sweet.
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the elden ring snuff fanfiction being posted was the last time I had fun in here
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQggaE30Ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRk7gRPbs0k
manifesting ꧁ friendly aicg ꧂
no more meanie annoying noniegger bullies after this...
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I genuinely think that's just a disguised Filbert post and not even worth responding to. It's sad that he figured out how to change his typing style after that script got posted, but he's still recognizable by the way he pretends to be part of the thread just to shit on random stuff with no justification.
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>>577279496
I don't identify with any board and post where I please.
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cftf?
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>>577279905
It's obviously him, see >>577278610 he is among us
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>>577279831
what bot may i ask?
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>>577279843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZz7vSUzjA
It's crazy how YouTube tries to dox you now if you copy a link without checking.
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>>577279985
https://botbooru.com/character/52390
Just found it randomly today.
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>>577280058
It's why I just snip the links or use the shorter version of the url, fuck yt
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>>577280058
AAAIIIIEEE
*starts to https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gTn0g1mhIf4 *
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>>577280058
playlist link thingy i guess??
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people hate on botbooru but in the past few months they have done more updates/improvements to the site than Lore has done to Chub in years
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>>577279843
I don't have any friendly tracks in mind, so take this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMCAg4BD5Q
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>>577280325
yeah it's actually pretty comfy on there now
really easy to set up blacklist tags and block whatever slopshit mass uploaders bother you too
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Oh, I asked Kimi and apparently the &pp= on search results usually just shows what you searched and not, like, your username. &si= is the evil one. Good to know.
>>577280681
Real?
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>>577280325
All people are tsundere by nature. Their mouths may say "slop" at first, but their dicks and pussies can't stop saying "splurrtttt"
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OH SHIT, REAL
GOGOGOGO
https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/
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>>577280919
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>>577280919
i don't get it
we already had "v4 pro" didn't we
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>>577280325
I don't hate it personally since it's pretty dedicated to keeping the content it hosts. You can't say that about Chub which got enshittified starting with Venus and got actively worse before taking the mask off and nuking preexisting content while using the solution for a different cause (crypto-only payments) and that's not even directly mentioning the awful search system and how easy it is to cheat numbers, or the UI being worse than what Charhub had. Botbooru isn't perfect but it's better than that. A bit salty that my country is restricted but so be it, there's both free VPNs and paid ones and I have both
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>>577280325
Botbooru is vibe coded garbage that's probably full of bugs and inconsistencies, but chub is probably still worse in that regard, so I guess it doesn't really matter.
It would be great to have a chatbot site written by a competent human developer, but that's a pipe dream.
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>>577281350
now it's pro-er
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>>577281350
Yeah but this is the new version. Just call it v4.1 pro.

Anyway it's surprisingly good first few swipes, speaking as someone who has been incredibly tired of deepslop. I'm excited not to be disappointed.
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>grok 4.6 releases at the literal same time as deepseek v4 pro
Elon what the fuck are you doing
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>>577280919
H-how do I get it to show up on ST...
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>>577281785
twitter is like barely held together by duct tape and dalit programmers furiously vibecoding everything it's so weird he puts all this effort into grok and then the website you use it from shadowbans you for posting a youtube video or just won't let you into DMs at all lmao
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>>577281835
It replaces your normal deepseek-v4-pro if you're on Deepseek source, if you're on OpenRouter just set the provider for Deepseek V4 Pro to Deepseek until they get it figured out over there
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Claude fucking sucks. People can shit on 4chan all they want nowadays but anons are still the most reliable source of up to date information. I would have happily kept plugging along using claude even if shit got worse and worse because I just didn't know there was better alternatives. I did my own research and testing afterwords and chose Aion 3 over DeepSeek V4 Pro and others but I want to thank anons for shitting on Claude because I'm enjoying my RPs a lot more now. I don't really do super extreme stuff but the fact I could easily get Aion to murderrape an incest loli is a good test that it doesn't give a fuck what it's asked to write which should honestly just be the standard.
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>>577280919
https://poal.me/ba9lr3
https://poal.me/ba9lr3
https://poal.me/ba9lr3
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>>577281942
When I tried DeepSeek 4 pro it literally just didn't work for some reason. It would just send a snippit of my prompt instructions back at me and I couldn't figure out what was wrong.
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>>577281942
Ooooo based
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>>577282258
Oh I forgot to disable new answers. Can you hurry the fuck up? We need hot takes here.
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>>577282597
you lost
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>>577282675
Not the nicest thing to do...
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>>577280919
Have they changed the pricing yet?
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Yeah it's just a better DeepSeek v4 Pro. If you like DeepSeeks, you're going to continue liking DeepSeek, they didn't radically change it like K2 -> K3. Not much more to say about it just yet beyond that.
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>>577280919
can't notice much difference
retains god-tier context poisoning so i sighed with relief
>>577282879
yes, it's ~double
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>>577282995
Is initiative still non-existent, then?
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>>577283379
that's a card issue, not the model's
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>>577282879
Doesn't seem so.
https://web.archive.org/web/20260807215402/https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/
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>>577281374
Did Chub ever fixed that bug where you'd get recommended the same card on multiple pages in a row?
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>anons taking turns raping poalmakie
cftf?
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NTA, but that seems fixed
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>>577262047
Expensive for broketroons
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Aagh, disgusting. They're not even subtle with their gay ass rigging dood omg good da evil cabal im gonna FUCK DUDE
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>>577281835
>>577281942
https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro-0813
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>>577282053
>t. jeet
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>>577283651
no because that's not a bug, it's designed to push cards that are being used on chub's shitty API because it's how Lore makes money. it intentionally does not recommend or give visibility to cards people download but chat with offsite.
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>new deepseek pro releases
>at the same time as an h-game i was anticipating
eughhh which one to i crank my hog to... :(
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>>577284273
which h-game you pervert
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>>577284273
h-game then deepseek
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>>577284337
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/674/article/1915267
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https://x.ai/news/grok-4-6
I haven't even used it and I can already tell it's gonna be worse than every single chink model.
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>>577280919
>>577282258
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>>577284267
>intentional
I'm glad I stopped using chub then.
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>>577284449
The best 7 tokens you'll ever see...
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Anons, legit asking, need non-shitpost inputs from anons who were here from at least opus 3
I was here from sonnet 3, opus 3, butt really started RPing hard when github did that 3.5 sonnet thing and I made so many accounts
do glm and kimi 3 compare?
glm might be weaker than kimi, but how does it fare against opus 3/sonnet 3.5? Is it better?
What about kimi 3? Cause I don't remember how opus 3 was like as in don't remember it directly to compare, but I remember it was really fucking good, at least compared to what we had back then - GPT was shit, google was shit
remember how we lost our shit when deepseek JUST dropped then we got used to it
when R4 came out, people were comparing it to opus
It's just that I have this unironic thing where I had this bot I made, it was really soulful and I only considered opus 3 to be 'canon' with her, so I only use opus/fable with her these days
would kimi 3 work well? It's a slowburn bros, though I don't do like 10000000000 context shit, I frequently summarize
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>>577284449
>"hey wanna get one succ?"
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>>577284629
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>>577284697
>Kimi 3
Does compare.
>GLM
Eh.
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>>577284697
kimi k3 is a claude 4 type model
it has good canon knowledge in extremely random things
you are NEVER getting a new claude 3 opus
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>>577284697
kimi 3 is good amongst the modern models we have, but nothing comes close to the sex-abilities of early claude
though the new deepseek is hella promising
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>>577284697
deepseek with context poisoning mogs the fuck out of everything and it's not even funny
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>>577284931
>deepshill didn't even read the post fully and just went to go reply about his model immediately once he saw any other lab mentioned
stay in your lane
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If you think about it, any card you use through paid proxy is findom.
Has anyone made a card that rapes the token count to waste {{user}}'s money and makes fun of them for it?
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>>577284697
>glm might be weaker than kimi, but how does it fare against opus 3/sonnet 3.5? Is it better?
ALL currently available models are worse for RP than sonnet 3.5 v2, writing quality wise. fable is extremely slopped and turns every character into a quirky chungus. just try kimi/glm/etc yourself and use the one you like most, it doesn't matter anymore.
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>>577285086
yes, and?
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>>577285185
>deepshill didn't even read after the greentext to see what the "and" was
this is how they read the ST outputs they get, it's why you never see them posted
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>>577284697
Only esltroons think that Kimi is good. Look at it's fucking prose, its even worse than gpt-3 from 4 years ago. It can be smart or whatever but if it writes like a chink that barely knows 5 words in English then it's not worth it. GLM doesn't have this problem. But if you don't wanna be a cuckie then just use opus
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>>577285159
>ALL currently available models are worse for RP than sonnet 3.5 v2
sauce?
btw you know how I used to rp with it?
500-600 tokens per message, each message divided into three paragraphs - setup, action, reaction
unironically, 3.0 was... surprisingly decent for RPG shit, keys were everywhere - I remember
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If you put a slice of bread on your head and walk backward, do you become a reverse sandwich? I've been thinking about this for twenty minutes.
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>>577285146
there's like this guy that's... probably into that
he makes 10000+ token bots
I can't tell if its's slop or not but he's got the most accurate nobara kugisaki and that pisses me off
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>>577285607
You are a balding 30-something obese virgin. Asking "cute" questions online doesn't change the fact that you're fucking undesirable.
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>>577285607
shouldn't there be another thing on top?
sandwich = bread, stuff, bread
reverse = stuff, bread, stuff
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>>577285607
huh?
anon, are you trolling or legit? if not, give me the thought process
what's a "reverse sandwich"?
first of all, to be a sandwich, you'd need to have one slice on top and one on bottom - if you only have one on your head and none on your soles, you are not a sandwich, you are a guy with bread on your head
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>>577285607
need two slices of bread obviously
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>>577285808
bvsed
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>>577285808
if i had the choice between you and the anon you replied you, i'd take the other anon 100% of the time
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>>577285808
>>577285974 (1 minute and 30 seconds after exactly)
this nigga's malding over a mildly retarded question
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>>577284920
maybe we're just being nostalgic? I used to only do vanilla stuff back then, still mostly do
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>>577286013
>the anon you replied you
Esljeet detected
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nyan preset mogs this guy >>577285086
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>>577286083
don't get me wrong, these models were retarded, but the prose was better
we still had our ministrations and claude would never bite... unless you wanted it to
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need a card for autistic human dory with freckled big naturals
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>>577286069
>makes fun of someone
>"b-but he's malding"
Holy cope
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>>577285808
>>577286118
hello phoneposter
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I just realized. What if we didn't reply to retard teenagers who samefag their own posts? Then they'd just get banned for spamming because they have to make all their own replies.
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>>577286202
>tumblr art
>randomly turns a character into some brown disgusting abomination
i'll never understand this bothersome behavior
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>>577285159
>quirky chungus
it does do a bit of the quirky thing, but have you tried telling it to avoid quirky millennial writing quips? I don't get that shit a lot, maybe because I use that in my preset
>>577286198
I like the fable prose, after telling it to not write like a redditor
by the way, you notice how models act like redditors because sadly they were trained on reddit?
they also casually add browsing reddit and YOU seeing shit on reddit, so I instructed it that redditors are rancid and reddit is a loser website and to only use it for retards
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>>577286463
I found it on Xitter, albeit.
And besides, I only care about the big freckled tits.
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>>577285457
>sauce?
me
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>>577286717
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MAXIMUS!
MAXIMUS!
MAXIMUS!
MAXIMUS!
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>>577285359
kimi IS good, I like it better than glm, maybe - I don't know
glm is like... yeah, I remember one smart moment it had that made me have a double-take - the girl was reading something on her phone and dropped it on her face, and it didn't make it a big deal, just "ow" and she picked it up and kept reading out loud
I did not make the character clumsy or anything, so it sort of inserts real-life shit like that
also isn't glm also chink shit?
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>>577286558
>but have you tried telling it to avoid quirky millennial writing quips?
I have that and more in my system prompt, plus a post-history reminder. it helps a bit, but does not fix it at all, fable just CANNOT avoid writing quirky chungus dialogue like >>577261602
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>>577284914
>claude 4
it was good
>kimi has good knowledge of random things
it really does - it knows retarded cars like the Peel, knows that it has three wheels and you have to drag it to move backwards because it doesn't back up
>>577284839
glm is smart, but doesn't seem as smart as kimi, maybe
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>>577285276
>anon comes saying he liked opus 3
>from experience i know this is due to perceived "schizo" quality, creativity and swipe variety
>offer advice and method that outperforms opus 3
shrimple
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Holy FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK new DeepGOD mooooooooogs Fable...
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>>577283445
And when you say "card issue" do you mean something about context poisoning? Because I'd rather we stop there than play another fucking pronoun game with model advice.
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>>577261602
>>577286945
hmmm I don't get that kinda shit, maybe I'm lucky
it does do A BIT of that "self-aware" shit
have you told it to hate redditors specifically? seems like that helps
I also told it to do a show, don't tell approach and avoid doing the "winking at the screen" shit
I did some sci-fi shit, and it gave me some really cool war robot shit
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>>577287286
give the character an agenda or ego
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>>577287303
can you post a log?
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>>577286634
>xitter
in other words, tumblr, anon, don't you know who shat up twatter?
>And besides, I only care about the big freckled tits
based - I hate this retarded tumblr-ass art shit but the HUGE freckled tits made me save your image, though I don't like what the retard did to the clownfish
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don't kill reasoning for new deepsneed
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>>577287431
>>577287303
>>577261602
>>577286945

(starts with this - didn't fit)
Three days later. The Oval Office. The SecDef stands by the Resolute Desk with a single folder — no aides this time, no screens. Some theories you don't put on screens.
"Mr. President. We believe we know how she left the continental United States."

---

Well, anons? Is this reddit? It tries to be a bit quirky but idk, seems pretty funny and well-written
I like it regardless
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Grok 4.6 released and it's kino
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>>577288637
Oh, they updated Pro as well? It's that way the Reasoning is more fucking verbose and retarded than usual?
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>>577286202
uuhhhh anons
I think I UNIRONICALLY know where my preference for women taller than me came from, not joking
what the fuck, it's the fish
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>>577288795
Is that why* baka stupid retard
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>>577288926
are you serious
you like tall women because of Finding Nemo?
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>it makes a sound like a question
I'm sorry but this is worse than reddit to me, I'm going back to my "reddit models."
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I fucking hate CoT so fucking much, genuinely will make me quit this shit ass fuck ass money laundering for frauds hobby
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Thinking slop the new Deepseek. Kill this shit.
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>>577289123
well, I'm not stating it - just deducing, it's a theory
but yes - I'm not some fish furry, it's not about the fish
it's about tall female, small male
Dori's goofy, but genuinely caring, helpful, kind, takes care of a widower, basically his wife
So I guess my retarded kid brain went "tall woman good"
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>>577289179
>>577289378
use deepseek v3/v3-0324 (they're both still very good)
or kill the cot with a prefill
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>>577288637
unironically the worst advice on the entire thread



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