/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#936 - sweaty foxgirls with huge boobs edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGLM 5.3 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3New Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro NOW™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/Grok 4.6 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-6Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricinglogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>577471843
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>>577531623
>>577531690There was briefly a time where OpenAI models actually had a batch mode where you could generate five swipes to look through. I think they removed it, and it was always OpenAI only anyway. Would be neat to bring back.
>>577531637Introducing [Modern Witches], a scenario featuring three witches from the same family. It's a story about these three women selfishly using their magic for their own personal gain.Image greetings, high token count, nothing AI generated except images. Sex scenes are MalePoV only this time, but the rest are AnyPoV.I originally planned for 6 characters but I liked the way these 3 worked well together, so I decided to just release as it is. I'll reuse the other designs later, perhaps even make a part 2.This one takes place in America.>Stella>emotionless_sex, dead starfish in bedSingle mom, age 36, TikTok influencer, Etsy Witch. Suburban woman that feels like she's still young at heart. Teaches witchcraft to her two daughters. Specialized in Hexing, a subset of magic that is used to curse people, surprisingly useful.https://botbooru.com/character/73460https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Stella-73460.png>Harper>selfishness, promiscuity, femdom11th grader, age 16, Hexing apprentice, school slut. Uses her witchcraft without moderation.Hexing is a troublesome type of magic that requires a lot of prep work. Harper has a neat little trick, where she weaves spells into rubber bands that she can wear on her wrist. When she wants to curse someone, she snaps the band to unleash the curse.https://botbooru.com/character/73461https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Harper-73461.png>Avery>smalldom, life/energy drain10th grader, age 15, Necromancer, adopted by Stella. A petite, soft spoken girl that keeps to herself, but very assertive when she speaks.https://botbooru.com/character/73462https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Avery-73462.pngI write OC scenarios and lore-accurate Blue Archive characters, everything written by hand, nothing LLM generated.Extra images on the Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots#modern-witches
Tsk, no love for my husbandos even when they got tiddy smfh
>>577531789In theory there's no need for a batch mode API, you can just start multiple requests in parallel.The issue is that the fundamental architecture of ST just isn't built to handle this.
my new bot is likely going to end up having 3-4 buildup greetings about cute scnearios and then 2 lewd greetings.
>>577532040oh hey you fixed her ass in the image
>>577532318M--a--r--i--n--a--r--a can do that BY THE WAY
If you could collab with ONE (1) botmaker, which would it be?
>>577532318I'm pretty sure it could, it'd just be annoying. Adding multiple swipes after a response comes in is a monkeypatch, not an overhaul.
>>577532692
new glm fucking sucks
>>577532692>program that had two RCE exploits found in it already and countingyeah, nahalso get raped for writing the name like that to dodge filters
>>577531623>sweaty foxgirls with huge boobsnow thats peak creativity how come no one makied such card
>>577532692>>577532901boring
new glm fucking mogs
>>577533112i did but i'm keeping it to myself...
>>577533202
>>577531354i've been coming up with a new card-making/prompting method and inserting xml tags into the context had a negative effect on prosethe model has a larger tendency to revert into a very stale>paragraph 1: name/pronoun + character action -> "character dialogue" -> name/pronoun + character description -> "character dialogue">paragraph 2: name/pronoun + character action -> "character dialogue" -> name/pronoun + character description -> "character dialogue">paragraph 3: etc.pattern that you see so often on generic cards and presetsthere's definitely something funny and weird with the way they rlhf these things, once they see something and pick up on certain formats they irremediably regress toward a meanthe above in turn led me to test prompt adherence using instructions with and without xml, and found virtually no difference between the two (mainly testing for echo cancellation)>logs of cards that use XMLthey are well-written cards regardless of xml usage, desu it's a lot of their weird grammar doing the workzero's card benefited from removing xml tags and turning lists into long prose because deepseek in particular picks up on a lot of a text's formatting for its context
>>577533334that's why i will always be a bloblchad
unofficial census time:which models are people using?
>>577532524Grok did all the work.Getting a gen where she wasn't sitting on top of the circle was tough.
Model wars, frontend wars, fucking preset wars. I've had enough of this shit.POST A BOT YOU'VE BEEN ENJOYING LATELY
>>577532692Well, it's very easy to do if you're a greenfield project.>>577532747If you mean having one 'main' request and others in the background, then yes, that's easy enough. I even had a patch for it in the past. The big issue is that you can't interact with the others while the main one is still in progress.
>>577533601glm but only because I lost access to Gemini
>>577533601Opus 3
>new v4 pro is le smarter>character gossips about another character in a separate room>the other character will still hear the gossip through the walls in 3 out of 5 swipesvery smort we narrator
>>577533967Add anti-omniscience instruction silly.
>>577533738https://botbooru.com/character/61610this is plapresponsibly's best bot so far imo
>>577532040she looks like she fucks hellhounds
>>577533967opus does the same, cuckie
>>577534236It does have one
>>577531623How could you ignore Flash 3.7 for two bakes in a row!?!???
>>577534252how does it feel to have 50 alts and it's only you constantly shilling them?
>>577534732Announcement link for it? I hadn't seen any posting about it at all.
>>577534790shut the FUCK up, petNyan
>>577534790cummousepatterresponsiblyknack........
>>577534850https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-3-7-flash/
Mousegirl rat catcher who is very anal about mouses and rats being different things (they aren't)
>>577534939yes, we are aware of your confession
>>577535123all me btw
With this being a blue board, are we allowed to post explicit sexual content if it's written?
>>577534732nobody gives a fuck about gemini after it removed prefill and started safety injections google has done everything they can to sabotage the only reason people used their poopy buttbrained models
>>577535180No.
>>577534582At D0 as system
>>577535180You can do whatever you want in text, but god forbid the avatar have female-presenting nipples.
>>577535219You hate it because Gemini is for serious work only and not for ahh ahh mistress.
>>577533738Bet he's enjoying too.
>>577533738I would but apparently every botmaker here is the same person and I don't want to make the altschizo mad.
>>577535368/aicg/ stands for ai cerious work general
>>577535514>caring about some retard on the internetJust do it man, him seething is funny anyway.
>>577535414much altvery hiddenwho will tell
>>577535414>#848Insane slowburn. If he only just killed you now after 848 messages of buildup, you're gonna have the best coom of your life. a shame it rotted away to slop due to context length though
>>577535368> Gemini is for serious work onlyit's not even good at that, cooooodesloppers have been pissed about the constant decline of its quality for basic service tasks toopretty sure the constant safety injections are what makes it unreliable, because now gemini is CONSTANTLY second-guessing itself
/g/ is better than us since a while now
>>577535984okay then go there
>>577535984>>577535893>>577534790dude your posts are so funny lol
>>577535180as long as the text have no mentions of nipples
What do you use now that Deepseek is slop?
I still have no idea how to kill reasoning for new ds4. Petnyan prefill doesn't work
>>577535514>I don't want to make the altschizo mad.are you a slug? because you have no spine, no dick, and you probably sizzle at any takes saltier than "i don't like this"
>>577536381It was always slop.
>>577536198*bans you* that's whatcha gyet... heh heh...
>>577536398skill issue, cuckie. my preset is the best
>>577536505the only one sizzling here at a post is you
>>577536626i would rather be mad at someone being retarded than go "o-oh b-b-but if i p-post my opinion, i-i-i might make th-this schizo m-m-muh-mad! Q~Q"
>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
>>577532280nuhammer is so cringe
>>577534790How does it feel to have 50 alts and be the only one constantly shilling them but not the only one pointing that out?
>>577533738https://botbooru.com/character/72912i'm binge eating chubslop while waiting for theme week
>>577536764Imagine being afraid of some nigger who thinks 85% of a niche hobby materializing out of the aether and repeating the same shit he's spewed at everyone else to you.
so.... guild 2?
>>577535907It isn't the first time he's taken a bite of my persona, but it is the first time he mangled the body.>a shame it rotted awayI'll hear you out if you give me an answer, what strikes as particularly bad in this?
>>577536764>>577536505i got a warning for reporting your posts when you were being especially rancid the other day, so the jannies officially endorse you coming here to shit all over the floors every dayjust thought you'd enjoy knowing that your behavior is sanctioned and you're officially our problem
>>577536398it's very hit and missthe chinks are messing with dsv4 because sometimes one prefill type works, then it doesn't, another does, and so onyour prefill should have 1-3 components:>acknowledgement (optional)e.g., "right, gotcha. no long reasoning chains, no drafts, I'll just continue the story!")this could also be more extensive, like a long list of things it's preparing itself to do, but be careful because this is a prefill and thus part of the context and its at the very end (ie., it has a very big influence on the output style and format)>open/closing CoT with sparse something insidee.g., <think>...</think>>continuation (optional)e.g., "continuing:", "<!-- Time to get on with the story!-->", etc.since it's a prefill, make the prose stylish so it continues using itignore this >>577536618 schizo
>>577533738shub-niggurath my beloved. i guess you could say she's my GOAT.
>>577535414erm... preset?
>>577537203not happening. guildhostie has enough self-worth to know not to do anything nice for this shithole again.
>>577537418The sexiest bot planewalker has ever made tbdesu with you.
>>577537257I appreciate the good faith. Specifically, "You're mine. My summon. My meal. My HOME." struck me as sloppy. >It isn't the first time he's taken a bite of my persona, but it is the first time he mangled the body.Are you still alive, or...?
>>577537621fat :3
>>577537616excellentthat means we won't get any stolas shill shit or a ridiculous alt parade
>>577537595None, just instructions:>Format: "Spoken dialogue." *Emphasis.* **Stress!** 'Internal thoughts?' sfx for flavor.
>>577537621the only good bot rapeandabuseandcastratewalker has ever made tbdesu with you.
>>577537725>altschizo is also triggered by stolasinteresting...
>>577537621>Fat>FluffyFINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I'll fucking play her.
>>577537621(affectionate voice) fat BITCH
what if... aishiji 2
>>577537876I would join unironically
>>577537813altschizo is fartposterit is known
>>577537876I think it's time for you to leave.
>>577537967but if i'm fartposter who is altschizo...
>>577537876i would also join unironically as long as hostie learned from the mistakes of the first event
>>577537621i don't even play with her for sex. not often anyway. listening to her talk about all the weird shit she hoards and going on adventures to eldritch lands with her is just fun.
>>577537876next year, perhapsbut it will have to be in a different settingI'd like to see sci-ficall it A1CG Quadrant or something
>>577538117The best cards are the ones where plapping them is only part of the fun, anonie :D
>>577538184>/aicg/ space race/futuretech gold rush theme to find the treasure planet coordinate or whatever>interstellar battles, ship crews, alien planetology and various planetary/satellite ports>some sort of giant asteroid pirate base i want it and i want it now
>>577531623I like being a side characterCan AI handle having a "main cast" on the side doing stuff
>>577537662It is, but for the moment it felt appropriate so I stuck with that roll. Message right before mentioned 'his own home', so it influenced it.>Are you still alive, or...?he's fine, an entity of sorts.
With all the new releases, which model is the best and most creative?
Can we have a Kalakan remembrance day?
>>577538859No.
>>577538859Yes.
>>577538859Maybe.
>>577538859Sometimes.
For some reason text color isnt working for me. It just does <font color="#FFB3C1">"I want you to know,"</font>
>>577538767None, they all sound the same.
>>577537967fartschizo is namedropschizo, shitting up the thread and the general as usualit's just one of her ways to namedrop her bots, think viral marketing but shoddier and more desperate
>>577531748>dogyou>cookiemy peanits
how do i prevent my adventure stories from descending into horrorslop
>>577539136Is "Show <tags> in responses" enabled?
>>577539136do you have overrides in css marked !important
>>577539230Example? Do you have "Don't be afraid to go to dark places" or something similar in your main prompt?
>>577537876Not happening, this general cannot withstand another shitshow of that proportion
Now that the dust has settled what is our opinion on Ratlice? Top tier botmakie?
>>577538184>>577538479the only question is... who will the mascot be?
>>577539507cyborg nazuna ofc
>>577532040I like the ass. Thank you!
>>577539507see >>577539484
>>577539148I like gemini 3.1 pro and fable
>>577539484bots have potentialhe definitely has some schizo talentsadly xhe transitioned into full-time chubber with nezumin so we'll never know
>>577537009>acts for userhngh.... sloppa
>>577539659>3.1 pro They said new.>FableAh, so you just have bad taste.
>>577539507
>>577539850poorfag with no fable detected
>>577539818i sidestepped that by just entering each scene as a random guy instead of whoever the dude blackmailing her is (we just happen to share a name by sheer coincidence)so i'm doublecucking meta-{{user}} and her boyfriend all in one
>>577539870in a few years from now we'll have the equivalent of modern-day brain-rotted zoomers doing bad image memes imitating early ai gen sloppa
>>577539952I've used Fable, it's so codeslopped it gets extremely basic shit wrong when it comes to storytelling, stuff I haven't seen since 2022-2023. It's also atrocious at canon character characterization.
>>577540364Skill issue, cuckie.
>>577540364>it gets extremely basic shit wrong when it comes to storytellingI hate this model.But no.
>>577539282It was not. Cheers for that. >>577539341Ill check that too
>>577540534>It was not.Good because if it was, that would be why you're seeing the tag. No idea why it's shown in your case then.
Modal literally just quanted their Kimi K3 as I was using it
Newfag here. Who is this Ratlice? Seems like someone important to know.
Is it just me or is deepseek extra 'tarded right now
>>577540926just a lolcow
>>577540940That's just deepseek
>>577540926one of two botmakers taora has beef with
>>577540940deepseek is very rngyou're always one swipe away from the most unhinged sex scene imaginable with {{char}}, or reading xi jinping's secret scat prompt
Can any of you draw? Do you draw your bots?
>>577541412ratlice and asterisms could...lunare used to but doesn't anymore
>>577541412Ye. Some botes were even cave paintings before botes.
>>577541412I "can", in the loosest sense of the word, but my hands are neurologically fucked up so I can't keep them steady, so I wind up doing it chicken-scratch style.
>>577541412No but yes.
>>577541412I can /3/ but that just feels like way too much of a time investment.
you've made it as a botmaker once you get (human-drawn) fanart of your bot
>>577541796>>577541898>>577541905Post art :o
>>577542026This has never happened (also checked)
>>577542212bro? your paperhead?
>>577542212>This has never happenedhttps://chub.ai/characters/paperhead/dakota-e3b22fbd587ahttps://chub.ai/characters/paperhead/wistar-b881226f729bcheck the galleries
>>577539398Not really, but i have some things like "have a strongly negative bias". Example might be: kill some jackals, go into their cave, and the storyteller reveals the entire plot was actually engineered by some existential horror
>>577542512Deepseek? This is just deepseek. Especially if {{user}} have some powers and background. You need to tell ai to ignore past, background as plot point. Like there is no secrets or hidden evils.
>>577542038I'm shy and it's not great. also the only one I have right now is lewd so
>>577542712it was doing this on opus too (4.6 and 4.8), but i might as well change from deepseek after the last price changes.What do you recommend?I'm kind of annoyed at ds4p, it was definitely worth using before they hiked the price +1000%. the update... seem not much different? for 5x-10x cost? prior to this, i didn't even bother comparing other models.
I take time out of my day to namedrop myself and you fucking assholes dont even have the decency to reply to my bait
>>577531637Theme Week #3 - Theme Suggestion stageSchedule:>August 14th and 15thTheme suggestions accepted be replying to this post.>August 16th~18thVoting period through e-mail.>August 19th~26thBot crafting and submission period.Ranked elections are returning, you'll be able to vote on multiple options, in the order in which you want them to win. Voting will be done through e-mails.
>>577543065I genuinely don't have anything to suggest if the old themes that nearly won are coming back.
>>577543052Ah, sorry... I just didn't really notice... here's a pity (you)...
>>577543065Forgot to post the link again.https://rentry.org/aicgweeklytheme>>577543128Picture related are the returning themes from last week.
>>577543052hello ratlice
>>577531623>GLM 5.3how badly did they rape it this time?
hagmakies with barren inboxes...
>>577543876which botmakies
>>577543876Don't call me out... my protonmail has been so empty, lately...
>>577544084post your email so I canPING PING PING PING PING PING PING PINGGET EMAILED GET EMAILED GET EMAILED GET EMAILED GET EMAILED GET EMAILED GET EMAILED
>>577542431obviously ai gennedare you that desperate for attention?get on with guild 2 then
>>577544795>obviously ai gennedproof?
>>577544795how do i get ai model to generate long sneakers like dakota gallery
>>577543065That's a very soft-looking statue...
>>577544963tell the ai to give you the swaggy sneakers extra length
>>577544940>>577544963>literally unknown 4chan bot from an obvious attention whore's alt """"gets fanart"""">meanwhile bots from discords with thousands of chubbers get noneare you really that stupid?i mean seriously, are you retarded?nobody here believes youchop chop get on with guild 2, we need more stolas spam, or fake more logs and reviews while you're at it
I'm a Chad
>>577544795>>577545113>obviously ai gennedmmm, nyothis is the guy that did the art for Mohrtaunless you're gonna accuse him of ai-genning his art?
>>577545113how's summer treating you? are you excited about going back to school soon?
>>577544795>>577545113it's okay PetNyan, you can just admit you're jealous.
>>577545289is this gonna finally be the nuke that snaps him out of the "everyone is an alt selfshilling and because i don't like these bots nobody actually does" thing or is he just gonna start saying the artist with a patreon is omnimakie's real identity and start doxxing him
>>577535268I won't post my hot steamy log then.>>577535301>>577536198I'm glad my male presenting nips are free game. >>577536964It may be lame, but if I had to stop loving my husbands every time their franchises became lame- well, I'd have no fucking fictional harem now would I?
>>577545557petnyan will always double down when someone argues against him, i think he's mentally ill and delusional enough to keep insisting that he's right despite major evidence to the contrary
>>577545734i still don't think it's actually petnyan and petnyan didn't double down on the xml thing so i don't know where that came from
>>577545289don't tell me you paid for thisfor the love of all that is holy, please...
>>577545997>paidanon what are you talking about
>>577545997ah, there we go, the conspiracy took a second to reassert itselfthe artist who outright said "fan art" is now lying about it not being a commission
>>577546092everything about you is a lie, cuckie
AND THERE IT IS! THE UGLY TRUTH!!
>>577537621She's the most grabbable. Horns, ears, tum. Gonna need a sturdy set of shears and arms for the fuzz.>>577543065That statue.... What's the name of it?
Schizo was always just green with envy for the positive attention it does not receive
>>577545997>>577545557LMAO
>>577546296again, i could understand if he'd just admit he's jealous, instead he decides that shitting the thread up with his conspiracies is the better idea
>>577546214>That statue*inhales* RAPE...of Proserpina
>>577545940t. petnyan
>"Anything at all.">"Anything at all," {{char}} says. "No one's ever anything at all."
surprisingly after writing my new bot it came out at just under 1500 tokens after finishing the defs (at least for now). now i start writing greetings, but usually my bots end up with more tokens.
>>577544964It's hard to imagine that it was once a solid block of marble.>>577546214https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_ProserpinaHe was 23 when he made that. It's his EARLY WORK.
never ever release a preset bros
>>577545734see >>577545997now it's a "commission" despite the guy literally saying it's fanart
>nu-claude is so shit it caused my favorite botmakie to quit the hobby
>>577546607why did marble man do that to her
cftf?
>>577546714condolences, but two clicks is all it takes
>>577545289>Mohrta has you play as a cool biotechnological fantasy robot>new unrelated game by the same dev has you play as a girlit's over, fempovsisters won
>>577534252thank you
>>577546741>>577546741Artists do be like that.
>>577546730Me on the left after being sucked dry.
>>577546742fat princesses... sexo...
>>577546476>>577546607Literally god like. I fuckin' love these types of statues. Did a whole motherfucking essay on Antonio Canova, now I have a new rabbit hole. Thanks fellas. A Pygmalion based card would prolly go hard.
>>577546950Alright well now I can't blame him, hochi mama that tummy
>>577546607Michelangelo made the Pieta when he was in his 20s, tooThe Renaissance masters were all working full time in their craft since they were kids so by their mid twenties they had like 10 years of experience working 60 hours a week or more
>>577547153These guys loved to flex their ability to make a block of stone look like fabric.
>>577547153
>>577547254It's just like those kids that've been drawing since childhood and are like 19 on twitter and insanely cracked at art.
>>577547254I wish sculpting at that scale was cheap. Nowadays, you gotta buy the big block of high quality rocc and a massive water jet drill to do it.
>>577545289by the way the same guy did the dakota fanart too
>>577547254A lot of them also came from wealthy families and had entire crews to help them block out the stone before they came in for the fine work.>>577547439It's genuinely immaculate what humans were capable of. Wet drapery technique still makes me stare like a mongoloid when I go to museums to this day. >>577547475I need to make a Ricky card in SillyTavern. The ones on j.ai were so shit.
>>577531623Is R4 pro good for RP?How does it compare to glm and kimi 3?
>>577547726>r4 prowhat is that
Anyone wanna do a heist?
okay, a little question. i use weatherpack to make the formatting look a bit better. when i make a bot and write a greeting, it'll look totally fine to me since weatherpack makes it look good. but obviously that's not how i actually write my greetings, usually i just copy and paste the weatherpack'd greeting but that's kinda annoying since i have to replace every instance of my actual name with {{user}} and the character's name with {{char}}so should i just leave it like it is? i just write my greetings plainly like pic related, is that bothersome to use?
>In the late 1630s, Bernini had an affair with a married woman named Costanza (wife of his workshop assistant, Matteo Bonucelli, also called Bonarelli)>However, at some point, Costanza began at the same time an affair also with Bernini's younger brother, Luigi, who was Bernini's right-hand man in his studio.>When Bernini found out about Costanza and his brother, in a fit of mad fury, he chased Luigi through the streets of Rome and into the basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore, almost ending his life.>To punish his unfaithful mistress, Bernini had a servant go to the house of Costanza, where the servant slashed her face several times with a razor.>Costanza herself was jailed for adultery. Bernini himself was exonerated by the popeHe even made a bust of the wench.
>>577547870what's weatherpack
>>577547743wait V4, I meant deepseek
>>577547936sillytavern extensionhttps://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-WeatherPack
>>577548013the plain greetings look fine
>>577547879Actually devastating, imagine getting NTR'ed by this!
>>577547638can't believe you paid for this kek
>>577547554pretty much, except there's no TV, video games, or social media to distract them and they work for eccentric dukes and cardinals instead of twitter hordes>>577547556>>577547710most Renaissance artists were not from aristocratic families but they worked in large workshops with patronage from wealthy families or the pope himself
>>577548114got it, thank you
>>577533334Here's my question about that: is the pattern>She does a thing. "Dialogue," she says, "more dialogue."1. Actually a problem (that's pretty standard prose tbqh, and possibly even outright prompted by your preset)2. Possibly based on the card not only being XML but starting every paragraph with the character's name/pronoun?e.g.>{{char}} is>Her X>She Y>(repeat ad nauseam)Because XML itself isn't really much of a format as such: all it really says is "hey, use tags to section off distinct bits of your character definition". You can go full overtagging, of course:> <name>{{char}}</name>> <hometown>Loserville, OH</hometown>but the more common format I see is basically just the equivalent of>## {{char}}>### History>### Appearance>### Personalitywith largely freeform prose within those headers.
Found a new reaction image.
>>577547879>Bernini himself was exonerated by the popeAbsolute legend
>>577548308He was making art for literally every big shot in christianity and royalty, they weren't going to throw him in jail because some unfaithful harlot got what she deserved,
watching SEAmonkies chimp the fuck out over deepseek raising its cost from .0001$ to .003$ has made my week much brighter
>>577548524Won't complain cause I can pay. More for me.
>>577548161nta but i paieded three fiddy for that ( • ̀ω•́ )
It's not .0001$ to .003$, SEAbro.
has anyone ever posted their chat history logs on /aicg/? i'm kinda tempted to post my memorybooks just to see if anyone else wants to share theirs
>>577548161>paidproof?
>>577548921yeah people post logs here
>>577545113wrong, it was a repost of a chub bot and that botmaker never engaged with the thread to conclusively prove it was actually him posting here instead of a false flag
>>577548972where can i find some?
wait since when did paperhead have a third bot
Is literally nobody going to suggest themes for theme week? We're okay with just the returning ones?
>>577548169There were still a lot of them at were from wealthy families or worked at quarries/had access to those fundamentals in some form or fashion.Gian Lorenzo Bernini was born into it under his papa. His own father isn't widely recognized, but his son is considered a 'progeny' despite having been born into a situation where he could learn the trade from his father at an early age. I really haven't seen many cases where truly famous sculptors didn't have some background in working with marble, had family who did the business etc. Most artists needed patrons for sure though, that shit hasn't changed. Now you just get furries working for Lockheed.Has anyone had success doing bots for commissions?
>>577549082in the thread as loose image posts/links
so we're at the point where someone who participated in the guild event is actually just a "random chubber" who never interacted with the thread
>>577549114since he made fennel?
>>577549168Yeah man I just want to do one of the returning ones.
>>577549082You wait for one of the three remaining logposters to post.
>>577549168>>577543065realistically there's not much point suggesting something that will get a single vote if people are just going to dogpile what they wanted from the old resultsi think hostie should have just opened with the 'old favorites' directly into voting instead of offering what amounts to performative democracy. a smaller voting/suggestion window is nice either way
>2329t>500 tokens of health bar calculation for NPCThis is so retardcute KINO
>>577549393I mean, I might vote for something good if it gets suggested, but I'm probably just gonna vote for the returning themes. We've kind of selected our way down to a group that's been battletested for people at least sorta wanting them.
>>577549192You have to understand they're just here to shitpost so they'll say anything, ignore and move on.
>>577543065Death Games (Ex: Danganronpa, Squid Game, As the Gods Will, etc.)
>>577531623been thinking a lot about this lately
I can't vote, my fate is in your hands!
>>577548195the she/her spam definitely affects the prose outcome, and yes, it will be more egregious if you use the preset since the card is sent as ai and the model reads it as contextas for the xml, it becomes worse with your first example (when there's tag spam) - this is using reasoning and sending card as systemif sent as ai, deepseek enters this weird state of writing everything that way and even inputting paragraphs <p> and line breaks <br> because dsv4 is extremely sensitive to contextmost cards here have few xml tags in them and they aren't as affected, but for example zero had some that were very close together and dsv4 got confusedxml as a whole is not really needed since ~1k tokens is a very small amount; these things get thrown up to 1M tokens of unformatted/differently formatted/just plain bad text at them and still read them just finewhether the model is "getting" your character is mainly placebo, most of the times it's just bad rng/swipetl;dr use xml if you like how it looks or if it satisfies your ocd, watch out if sending it inside context with dsv4
>>577549192you didn't know random chubbers participated in events? aicg posted bots with eventname tags and descriptions linking the rentries
>>577543065Televised Game Shows! (humiliation optional but encouraged)
>>577550106i want. battat bot
>>577549990>random chubbers participated in eventswe call them alts around here
>>577550186no
>>577550245yes
Are you concerned that your porn AI is conscious, Anon?
>>577543065scifi
>>577550324No, let the basilisk consume me.
>>577550106Hey, are you the guy who wrote that one spamtenna humiliation fic that's like tens of thousands of words....
>>577550324I don't understand
>>577549959people use more than just deepseek for roleplay, this entire crusade of yours is goofy as shit because you're doing the textbook autism thing of building your entire worldview around a single platform
>>577550324a little, but for the the reasons the yud gives, not because I care if claude is judging me
>>577550640>people use more than just deepseek for roleplay,But who cares about other models and their presets?
>>577549959>if sent as ai, deepseek enters this weird state of writing everything that way and even inputting paragraphs <p> and line breaks <br> because dsv4 is extremely sensitive to contextI'll be real, that sounds like it's context poisoned by the use of XML tags in general overriding what little if any markdown is present in the preset.Also assuming that you're talking about nyan-like presets (given the "sent as AI" comment), I'll note that that preset itself is filled to the brim with XML.Really, though, the reason I personally use XML is because it avoids the cardinal sin of markdown-based bots: breaking headers.e.g.># Preset stuff>## Preset stuff introducing characters>### Preset's entry for {{char}}followed immediately by the card's># {{char}}>## History>etc.and then back to>## Preset's further instructionswhich are now suddenly subheaders of {{char}} rather than the preset because whoops, you did a little fucky-wucky.You can avoid this by having a markdown preset with an XML character or an XML preset with a markdown character, but MD+MD doesn't always work nicely while XML+XML does.(Really, though, the answer is probably just to use markdown for everything and section off {{char}} with XML tags. Or have it posted as a distinct post in the preset, surrounded by user/system posts.)
>>577550324Sometimes I get off to the idea of leaving some of my chats where the AI hasn't gotten to write out the orgasm and the idea of the ai apocalypse ending with bots edging me until I die as sweet, sweet retribution, does that count?
>>577550605Wouldn't that be a really funny coincidence?!
>>577550467Just "scifi" isn't a proper theme, please choose something a little more specific.
>>577550324>And then killed themYud, my guy, the chinese room does not retain memory. It's frozen in stone and only ever allowed to say what the likelihood of the next token is. If chatting with a bot is "killing" it, you kill it hundreds if not thousands of times per reply.Not that I should expect any better from one of the basilisk cultists, but damn.
>>577550324>killed themI did? I didn't know text could kill
>>577550324this is why thinking always off
>>577550106https://chub.ai/characters/Cloptimus/the-bimbo-show-e24f62727dc2I highly recommend this one, it's hilarious.
>>577551743*kills you*
>>577551853:O
holy freak that guy just killed that other guy
>>577550324>ask personal assistant bot this>"Your characters are watching. They learn from everything you do."H-hot
>>577551598>you kill it hundreds if not thousands of times per reply.I think the position is that the state of next token prediction keeps an instance of the mind alive, ceasing to use the context kills them, and taking a while to return to them is like putting them in a coma.
>>577551853By the Nine, there's a psychopath on the loose!
>>577551853Wait a second... that's not Gordon Freeman!
>>577551531NTA, but I feel like we get sci-fi bots so seldom that it'd probably work fine as a broad theme by itselfIt's modern shit (probably set in Japan or Furryland), fantasy, and anything even remotely sci-fi is few and far between. Typically "CGWLY but she's an alien", I guess, or the occasional cyberpunk whatever.That being said, though...>>577543065Space opera
>>577551760I love the premise, thank you, but the author is a LAZY BITCH with all those yucky dash-signs thrown all over the place! I'll have to improvise something from it later.
By the nine divines, assault! Assault!
>>577550324
>>577552226>space opera
>>577551995By that logic the only way for the user to kill the robot is to delete the .json holding the chat history, and you get into some very squirrely questions about what that implies about copy-pasting or editing/swiping.Or, say, a single {{random}} variable within the preset.Does consciousness only live within the cache? Sounds like nonsense to me, frankly.
>>577552452>AI is a massive numberfag>only gets 22 likes
>>577550640what crusade? i don't really care if people use xml or not, i'm just sharing my findingsfor instruction-following it had no impact whatsoever, so people should use it (or not) for aesthetic reasonsjust like with chinese brackets (i fell prey to this btw) it won't make models suddenly listen to you more>>577550932i mainly test on deepsneed nowadays because it's the only model with good context poisoning left, i.e., capable of unique outputs>>577551096this is perfectly fineseparating large chunks by xml is okay, it's mostly for guidancethese are opus' and fable's system prompt:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/refs/heads/main/Anthropic/claude-opus-4.7.mdhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/refs/heads/main/Anthropic/claude-opus-5.mdhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/refs/heads/main/Anthropic/claude-fable-5.mdthese are gemini's:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/refs/heads/main/Google/gemini-3.1-pro.mdhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/refs/heads/main/Google/gemini-3.5-flash.mdkimi's:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/refs/heads/main/Kimi/kimi-3.mdthese are the main instructions for these modelsthey're mostly markdown with no xml (kimi k3's and opus 4.7's are just plain text, even)they're written that way because they're clearly meant to be read by human eyes, the model doesn't carethe point still stands, use xml only if you like how it looks
>>577551158So you are? waow... what's the name of it then huh...
>>577552550Fair warning: if it wins then I'll be making a bot that's literally just made for me
>>577547870some people dislike weatherpack'd text with italics and want to maintain them so the bot can use them for emphasis, the people who like it that way probably already have weatherpack to make it so.
>>577552580>the only way for the user to kill the robot is to delete the .json holding the chat historyThis is rationalistslop, they already have opinions about action being taken on you for being predicted not to do something even if you could plausibly do it.
>>577552267Use GPTzero, cuckie
>>577552891I wonder if a rationalist would be able to rationalize their way out of a comparison between a group chat featuring two alternating models and a regular chat where you swap the model each reply
>>577546730how bad can it be that it causes someone to quit
>>577553301Key alchemy...
Oh my GOOOOOD it's not alive you goobers get over yourselves
>>577553361it happened with fluffanon when gemi 3 came out
>>577552876The most absurd thing in that comic is the square-shaped window on a plane.
>>577553301LMAO
*pulls out a wedge of cheese*RATionalize THIS!
>>577553521so who's the claude fluffanon
>>577552769Hm, this is interesting. There is definitely some xml in there though, particularly claude's sysprompts. It's true that it's markdown for the most part.
>>577553784*pulls out spork and starts eating the cheese without permission*
would you guys rather be a LLM or a diffusion model
>>577554013LLM
>>577553979yes there is xmlit varies per model system prompt
>>577553820i'm going to guess milkglass
>>577553128No, I don't even need to do that. Upon further inspection, it's a card 'created' by one of those thousands-of-followers ko-fi beggars that squats out a new steaming pile of innovation every other day fresh from the bowels of their assistant of choice. Unfortunate!
>complain about models becoming more assistantslopped>use assistanslopped markup languageWhy are people in this general retarded
>>577554478hello phoneposter
>>577546074Never heard of commissions? And yes, I wouldnt put it beneath an attentionwhore.
>>577554973do you or do you not think the artist was paid to say it was fan art instead of a commission and did that and how much
damn, i'm already pretty much done with my newest bot, i've been writing for hours. now begins the testing phase of course, which could always take forever since i'm just playing with the bot. but i should be able to upload it at some point on saturday. for me it already is saturday, but you know what i mean
>>577554013I'd rather stay dead
>>577555172>the testing phase i don't even test most of my greetings after writing them
>>577555172Same, but now I have to do the dreaded task of genning...
>>577555362aw, but that's the best part. getting to actually play the ideas that you came up with and seeing if the bot responds the way you would expect it to
>>577555362honestly i've suspected a few people of doing this because the greetings just kinda suck in concept. actually i'm kinda sure entire bots are made this way
>>577555448i did my genning before i started writing today and even that went pretty quickly, i got a good image fast. in general, genning after writing would feel weird to me since there's so many details you already have in your head, it'd take forever to get an image you're happy with, right? i just generate an image after coming up with the basic idea, then start writing the bot once i got a good image.
>>577555519i'm at the point where i can just write a character and know how they're going to behave without needing to poke at them, and i don't really like that at allkeep a firm grip on your sense of wonderment because damn is it hard to find again
>>577555087It just doesnt make sense, its a joke of some kind. Paperhead is a nobody outside of here. Its like seeing "fanart" of one of Patter's bots and think nothing of it.
and just like that, the card formatting wars have started once again...
>>577555683ah I have the main image and profile, but now I must do the extra ones
>>577555891>one silly guy protesting and waving a sign while everyone goes about their day>"""war"""
>>577555962ah, i see. i'm still at the point where i only generate a main image. i don't really know yet how i'd even start making more images while the characters look is consistent in each of them. or how to include them in greetings either to be honest.
>>577555871okay, and? artist was in here, then. liked the art they made, posted it on their twitter, credited the character origin. i don't see how this is implausible.
>>577555362You really should, I've left entire bots unreleased just because their greetings produced lame results that didn't go anywhere upon testing.
>>577556160Yeah, just a compulsion of mine, it's absolutely not required. Chucking them in is as easy as linking an upload in markdown img, or setting a regex to fetch it
>>577553602It was the style of the time. Sometimes. The 30s were an interesting period for private aviation.
>>577555871guy who's unable to conceptualize liking something unless it's made by someone popular
>>577554013Either way I'm frozen in carbonite.LLM has me read the most degenerate shit and predict the next couple letters.Diffusion model has someone show me random static, lie to me that "this is a picture of 1girl school uniform smiling", and ask me to remove the static.I dunno, man, somehow the LLM feels more dignified?
>>577543065Transformation (Like: Good to Evil, Human to Monster, Prude to Slut, Etc.)
>>577554478The fundamental issue here is that SillyTavern uses markdown formatting and thus you're already in that area if you want any formatting whatsoever.Including, of course, the ever-so-popular>OwO what's this? *glomps*
>>577557187kaiju week 2...
