Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9533 - All The World's Gems Are Mine to Keep edition==NEWS==>TailsTube #16 - Between 2 Hedgehogshttps://youtu.be/-UDOIdn2lHs>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>577680368
I SAID, ARE WE EXCITED FOR FORTNITE, GUYS?
>>577749426Bring back the REAL Rouge!
>>577749668No. I'm looking forward to Panic Porcupine's new game.
Miia and her fans when Krack claims she helped them fight the ebil leftists
>>577749781Who tf is tailschannel
Douge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygU0gLko39U
>>577749668god you fucks are lame
>Crash and Shadow in FortniteGuess those Crashdow fanfics now have a proper canon setting.
>>577750642
Maria needs spankings.
>>577750635spongebob being in a sonic didn't tip you off
OPEN THE DOOR, SONIC
>>577751006no I mean YOU, THE POSTERS HERE, are lame, keep my man Bob Esponja out yo FUCKING mouth
>>577751075>it's the pizza ..girl? hi amy!
>Bob Esponja
>>577751075Slutmy
>abandon sonic fandom because cream lost to vanilla in a sonic channel art poll>check back in 5 years later>she's as irrelevant as everlooks like i made the right choice. what a shit franchise.
>>577749668No
>>577749668yes
>>577750069>t.LeftoidYou guys are the new jack tomspons, its hilarious.
Sonic Would Love Us seems to tolerate fascism. That's a no from me.
>>577751436Cream is literally only good for spankings.
lmao
>>577751797Define fascism
>>577751359yeah, am I not allowed to call Bob L'éponge by his other names?>>577751436genuinely fucking kill yourself man no exaggeration genuinely fucking kill yourself
>>577751705>jack tomsponNow there's a name I haven't heard in a while. Is he still going after GTA?
>>577751963Palingetic ultra nationalism. Or vaguely, rightwing combined with strong state authority and associated with hatred.
>>577749426I love this image like you wouldn't believe
>>577751936>ethno circus
>>577750108It's a collection of various social media channels dedicated to covering news about the franchise and fandom. Krack said TailsChannel is sponsored by Sam Procrastinates or otherwise has ties to him. Something like that. Lots of astroturfing going on in the western fandom
>>577751936For me, it's the UH
>>577752095>nationalismLeftoids are ultra-nationalists. They just believe pedestalizing (and fetishizing) brown people to virtue signal is their national identity.>rightwingExplain right wing. It doesnt mean anything. The world doesnt revolve around the US. >strong state authorityThe left wants this. They just want it to do things they agree with.>associated with hatred.The left is defined by acceptable hatred towards the "correct people". Its just Americanism. Its just two different flavors.The right are just more honest and self aware about it.
>>577751963saying that men don't belong in female-only spaces like changing rooms and prisons
>>577751936https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENTZ6IJQCtw
>>577752714carefully writing down all the lyrics into my notebook using a ballpoint pen, before re-typing it into the computer for all my friends on the sonic wiki to read. taco taco wheat taco max smack face, indeed.
>>577751436>check back in 5 years later>she's as irrelevant as everBut she got to be the focus of an entire game (that no one got to play).
>>577753023the apple game? she wasnt the focus, and im pretty sure that was abandoned anyway
>>577752698Not a leftoid but "women only-spaces" are a meme and shouldn't even exist or need to exist, frankly.They only exist because of sexism.
>>577753096She was core to the story and also playable. And it's just a single player game. It's kinda done unless they're still adding new skins to it or something.
>>577753096NTA but the whole plot of the game is how Eggman kidnapps her to use her to control the Reverie dreamworld since she is pure. Also she becomes friends with Ariem.
>>577753169>"women only-spaces" are a meme and shouldn't even exist or need to exist, frankly.biological men invading and colonizing women-only spaces and lecturing women about how they're allowed to feel about this, you say?
>>577752595Rightwing is maintaining the status quo and the traditions of a specific culture. Or in MAGA's case, trying to rewind the clock.Ultra nationalism is when nationalism bends to me vs you instead of just patriotism. The US has this now.By strong state authority I don't mean social programs, I mean suppressing civil liberties like stopping transgender people, reproductive rights, and cracking down on opposition for partisan reasons, ICE killing people and getting away with it.The left is intolerant of dissent, but they are less violent and less insane than the American right now. This is the truth.You have to be blind to not see how messed up MAGA is and how un-American they are to what the US is supposed to stand for ideally.
>>577750858THAT LITTLE BLOND CUNT IS STILL BREAVING, KEEP SHOOTING.
>>577753326>Also she becomes friends with Ariem.
>>577751936we -ot fuc-kin'we -ot fuc-kin'we -ot fuc-kin'we -ot fuc-kin'(Uuuu) we -ot fuc-kin'(Uuuu) we -ot fuc-kin'(Uuuu) we -ot fuc-kin'Beef cakes the beef cakes, fuckin'https://youtu.be/Q4pB8k0ExiA
>>577753443>The left is intolerant of dissent, but they are less violent and less insane than the American right now. This is the truth.
>>577753390>>577753645Ocshit is offtopic
>>577753547>Eggman but he's a robot>And there's another robot called Johnny (fucking Johnny lmao, why not Chris or Steve) who of course thinks he's the fastest faggot in all the seaI'd forgotten Rush Adventure for a reason, thank you.
>OCs are off topic but not the politics being discussed
>>577753919Gotta keep you octards controlled from going out of control, politics talk is always temporary
>>577753547not sonic but;GIVE ME ONE THEM FUNKY BEATS BOIi miss Hidekihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1lNhNHdoPI
>>577753773>And there's another robot called Johnny (fucking Johnny lmao, why not Chris or Steve)A "Johnny" was an old name for a sailor. That's why there are a lot of seafaring characters named Johnny.
>politics talk is always temporarysure doesn't feel like it with how often it happens, also nice double standard
>am gonna beat that nerd. am gonna leave a big spinball sized ball through his BUTT. lemme go am gonna kick his ass high up it sonic booms on its way down. let go!
>>577754095As you probably already know, Ohtani took over music duties for SRA, not Hideki. Hideki left Sega by then.Hideki Naganuma sure is a Funky Uncle.
Everything pictured here is on-topic now, this is a free for all general
>>577754608sonic looks so goofy with that rig. he's as thick as knuckles
>>577754608can you remake ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny in fortnite yet
>>577754608At least Jazz Jackrabbit got to be a backpack.
>>577754608So we are allowed to talk about good games now?
>>577753703The right believes women shouldn't vote and there should be different classes of citizenship.
>>577755012https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsisGqvXP8IThere's not a single Fortnite player who is going to know who Jazz Jackrabbbit is.
>>577753397The history of female only spaces is literally out of sexism. Its a combination of spaces being made to exclude women from regular spaces as well as later women building spaces to accommodate women who were thus excluded.>>577753443>Rightwing is maintaining the status quoNo it isn't. Rightwingers want change towards something they believe represents something that resembles something more conventional rather than wanting to defend whatever the percieved status quo is.The left is pro status quo when it is in line with whatever they agree with.The simple reality is the right and the left are defined by just being anti-eachothet. They want the same shit. They just believe in getting to it in different ways.Everything you claim the left or right does, the other also does.It's just the right comes from old money and the left tends to side with new money.But their the fucking same shit.
>>577755115No they don't, you fell for the propaganda.
>>577749426It feels so sad that because of Blaze Rouge is getting less and less interactions with the other cast, first Sticks got deleted, Cream got replaced, and now Rouge is next, like when will they realise Blaze is a lost cause?
>>577755157I was 8 years old and saw it in the PC games section at Walmart. Playing games on a computer was still very niche back then. Win XP wasn't even out yet
>>577755157Not like any Zoomers know who Crash Bandicoot is either.
>>577749668>fortnite is going to have better 3d sonic gameplay than modern sonic gameslol
>>577755115The left believes all women and black people are obligated to vote left in order to keep their black/woman card and also believes in different levels of citizenship.Blaze The Cat.
Tails ^-^>>577749668No, I don't care about this crossover stuff
>>577755432as if. those loops are going to be scripted and any physics will be more fake than forces.
>>577755165>The history of female only spaces is literally out of sexism.and yet you're lecturing women how they are permitted to feel about having someone with a functioning dick and balls walking around their changing rooms, prisons, shelters, housing and so on
>>577755174Maybe not in your country, but the fringe US right is crazy like that, and they currently have a lot of influence on the mainstream US right.
>>577754142Oh...a sharkskin suit? Now, THAT'S a challenge!
>>577755746I'm American. You fell for the propaganda. Talk to your neighbors.
>>577755530Blaze the cat believes that The Epstein files are not important and that we should focus on conquering the chaos dimension
>>577756147Monster fangs
>Blossomfag moved into Fortnite generalCool
>>577755296I know you are trying to convince others here but no rougefag actually cares about her being in a team with amy and cream so it isn't working
>>577756870>no rougefag actually cares about her being in a teamFTFYRouge is at her best when she can switch affiliation on a dime. She actually gets to have more interactions with the cast that way. The other guy is full of shit.
>Crash and Shadow are both in Fortnite>in time for tdosth's 6th anniversaryKilling myself
TEN TEN is good, but it's no THUNDER RAIN AND LIGHTNING
>>577757231>Rouge is at her best when she can switch affiliation on a dime.I agree with this. It best fits her character to not have any real loyalty to any particular objective, only arguably to a handful of people when it aligns with what she's doing.
>>577757231The other guy is a silverfag who hates blaze out of trauma for blazefags/sonazefags coming after him, he doesn't actually care about rouge
>>577755296>first Sticks got deleted,Forced meme
>>577757302Fortnite is TDOSTH 5. Crossworlds will be TDOSTH 6 when Crash gets in after the EVA kids. Krack won.
>>577755432>better gameplay????
>>577755717>and yet you're lecturing women how they are permitted to feel aboutWhen did i do that?>>577756064Why is she like this? I always assumed the Sol Empire was a constitutional Monarchy like Soleanna but I might be wrong.
>>577757313>>577757505Why do fatfags single out the nuDC for their fat fetishism (aside from Tangle)? Why not any other IDW character?
>>577758269oh fuck off
>>577757231This.Free Rouge. Also fuck Teamshit in general.>>577757404Neither is a LOOK AT YOURSELF or a SIMPLE CURIOSITY, so it doesnt matter.
>>577757474I feel like some people won't believe you even though its literally what happened to the Silverfag. >>577758341>oh fuck offWhere did i say that i did? I went out of my way in my original post to say im not even a leftoid.
I want to cum inside Surge
>>577758781>sticking your dick in crazy>sticking your dick in mentally ill crazy>sticking your dick in mentally ill electrical crazy.Natural selection.
>>577758692The ones who believe it will probably just whine about silver or silvaze and miss the point anyway.
>>577758682;/
>>577757993>Not Shin The Downfall of Shadow the Hedgehog
>>577757974It's genuinely what happened, Sticks was last scene being replaced with Shitaze >>577757231>She actually gets to have more interactions with the cast that wayExcept she can't because Blaze replaces her there and in lots of other factors, like independence, fem fetal, strong female, kicking warrior,...only thing left for Rouge is being a spy and that doesn't cover her whole characterYou ever wonder what she could've done in many situations if Blaze wasn't shoehorned in there? Hell if you claim to be a Rougefag did you seriously like how she was treated next to Blaze? she's relatively a child to keep Blaze looking more mature.
>>577758781>
>>577759250>It's genuinely what happened, Sticks was last scene being replaced with ShitazeNo i mean Sticks herself is a forced meme character.
>>577757474The reason he hates them is because he cares about the characters Blazefags are ruining over their pajeet OC.
>>577758781You didn't post Surge bent over on a rocky area so I don't believe you
>>577759250Blaze isn't a femme fatale (shes flat, awkward and not flirty) and being ''Strong'' isn't the point of Rouge, she's more of a playful agent type who is selfish and goes after what she wants, like a dark analogue to amy.Blaze is a female shadow analogue
>>577759371Well i like her, she has an actual character and and an actual dynamic.
>>577759371
what is thaaaat
>>577759405You are samefagging since said silverfag(you) is who overuses the racefag point about blaze or other characters when no one cares
>>577759664Tools the Box
>>577759664A tails themed backpack.
>>577759554>she has an actual character and and an actual dynamic.She has neither.Her "dynamic" is purely informed and not even witha real version of the character.Ans her "character" is "insert conspiracy theory meme here".Case and point >>577759571
Which Spin Dash input is the best?https://strawpoll.com/NPgxeYbz4Z2
>>577759525Blaze is depicted as attractive, confident and flirty as of late, Plus Rouge is far more than a playful agent, she's an intelligent mature manipulator, where her selfishness is her playfulness, but she does care about others, somethings that you're not seeing because Blaze is sucking it off of her for no reason.
>>577759792>i don't care about this character so she's badFuck off, she's still better than Pajeetaze
>>577759827She isn't depicted as these you are reading porn fanart.
>>577758781This but Amy.
This nigga really trying to argue that "masculine" flat the cat is more femme fatale than Rouge. Your hateboner is actively removing what little brain cells you have
>>577759684You mean pic rel?
>>577759827>attractive, confident, flirtySince when?
>>577759809Option 2 and 3 are the same thing
>>577759827May we see the confident and flirty Blaze you speak of? Preferably non-ai generated?
>>577760132I think he is projecting because he started out drawing shitty silvaze porn before he hated her (not even a point about silver or silvaze, i actually like silver and silvaze) and he took the flamebaiting of sonazecoomers did too seriously on top of already jacking off to her.
>>577760029>>577760297Literally what she is in IDW, she's way more confident and mature for someone who's supposed to be insecure and not talkative, because that's supposed to be ROUGE.>>577760195Since she failed to be a character (at her debut)
>>577760192This isn't pol, half the people here are ''brown'' themselves and not brainrotted by raceshit. no one cares
>>577759827>Blaze is depicted as attractiveNo>confident and flirty as of lateWhen?>>577759996I just states facts. I used to defend Sticks but she is a meme character that adds nothing and makes no sense to add to the games.>>577760076Station Square NPC....
>>577760132I'm arguing on her not being that, and her fags and writers trying to write her off as that>>577760310What the fuck is this?
>>577760369>matureMature is not the same as flirty, don't backtrack. Show us the flirty femme fatale Blaze you're talking about.
>>577760543yes waifufags are gooners who mutilate the character, in actual media she isn't stealing ''femme fatale'' shit from rouge.
I think this retard thinks femme fatale is a synonym for girlboss
>>577760495>I just states facts. I used to defend Sticks but she is a meme character that adds nothing and makes no sense to add to the games.I think she's the perfect add on to Sonics crew, all i agree with, replacing Blaze with Sticks is a good tactic that not just relief writing stress but opens many easy to access windows and more fans
Never thought I'd ever hear Blaze be described as "flirty"
>>577760754no he actually projects goonershit to her due to his background and why he hates her in the first place.>>577760310>>577757474
>>577760905The buckbroken has been making shit up the past 10 hours to cope with the meltdown he's having over picrel
>>577761138The colors are genuinely aesthetically pleasing though
>>577758781Sonic…
>>577759571reminder that Sticks doesn't bathe
>>577761582
>>577760905I think that anon was talking about this page, but really this was just ABT ABTing.
>>577755016>picEarthbound is overrated
>>577761740Sticks you got a little something on your...back
>>577761754Damn, where's all the Knuxaze shipart this single page surely spawned?
>>577760495>Station Square NPC....Yes, I'm the old man, how did you know?
>>577761270Pink and purple tend to be used as a girly version of red and blue, so they do actually have similar aesthetic to the colors Sonic, Tails and Knuckles provide by being pastel versions.
>>577761754ABT is a coomer. He can't resist putting bedroom eyes on the female characters for no reason
>>577762204to be fair the expression isn't different from this jp one, it's nothingburger
>>577762412>12 year old child walking around>old fat ass man>Sonic Team: hey let's grab a drink cutie ;)
>>577761819Fat Knuckles vs Fat Brown Tails
>>577762621This is why humans NPC were a mistake.
>Sonamy>Taiream>Knuxaze
>>577762423Big also goes for the same thing but i think Blaze's lilac works better.
>>577762887So on old fat ass blobian hitting on Amy would be any better?
>>577762204Not everybody reads "bedroom eyes" as flirty, and honestly ABT's ABTing seems to put a lot of people off nowadays or at least only works for certain characters.
>>577762514Blaze looks like she wants to get filled with Silver's hedgehog juice
>shadamy>knuxouge>silvaze
>>577763534I mean knowing SoJ that probably was the intention to a degree, but she could also just find his cluelessness cute instead.
>>577763384How did she get so big? Wrong answers only.
>>577763294Yes because their age would be more ambiguous. Hardly anyone brings up that one time Amy thought Vector was hitting on her because them both being cartoon funny animals obfuscates their 8-year age gap. Meanwhile that human old guy in SA1 reads easier as an old guy.Here's a test, do you think these blobians behind Tails are that much older than Amy?
sally
>>577764226
>>577764174ehh, they are stylized enough to the point amy could read as anything between 8-20 something
>>577763696>Knowing SoJ that was probably the intention to a degreeWhat are you implying about them?
>>577763967It's just an "art-style" for the map, don't worry about it.
>>577764596Sonic team are shipfags almost as much as SoA just more subtle about it.
What would a new main sonic game even be? Sonic Frontiers definitive edition is now considered the worst release ever made for Sonic, scoring a 2.8 on metacritic.should we really even be excited for anything if they cant even make a proper enhanced edition
>>577764749That's true but I'm pretty sure Blaze's facial expression wasn't meant to be seen as dirty, just playful. In 06, she says in a playful-sounding way she has always liked Silver for his naivety
>>577764956it never gets better. the ride never ends. we're stuck here for all eternity to suffer because some games we played 30 years ago left too much of an impression
>>577764956Sonic gens remake would have gotten < 1.0 if it wasn't for the shadow content. can you believe it? one day sonic team woke up and decoded to remake gens
>>577760259No? You have to hold A in option 2 and mash A in option 3
>>577764174If a blobian was an old man in his 50s or 60s you could tell
>>577764956oh no, other people don't like the stuff i like. this is bad for me because
>>577764956Shadow Gens was very well received.That's right, another 20 years of hallway Boost slop is coming your way.
>>577745731https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/573717837/#q573730956Tailsfags are mad people like things other than their fox.
>>577765241Currently picrel is the only blobian example of that we have.
>"level 8 grand prix cpu is kinda weak, let's try level 9">proceed to get gaped and raped, cpu rival driving like a fucking speed demonWhat the fuck is this? Why are cpu enemies straight up ignoring one another even when they have the guy in front in their crosshair only to throw shit back at me? I'll just stick to level 8 and actually have fun. Fuck this.
Shippers are meaner than power scalersA Sonamy purist would have you murdered if they could
>>577764956Just design it like the open world Spiderman games. It gives the hub worlds atmosphere and plenty of stuff to explore and do stuff in. This is exactly what Frontiers was missing. No more platforms on empty islands, please
>>577765180Which is effectively the same thing in practice
>>577761185It seems that IDW outsourced everything to Gemini.
>>577765909The Conductor is a better example
>>577766153>No more platforms on empty islands, pleasePeople who bitch and moan about this don't like Sonic. You love this shit when it's anywhere else in any other game.
>>577766156Hold does not mean press
>>577764749more like they only support like 2 ships passively and could care less about any of the others
>>577765090>30 years agoAre.you 60?
Hello, guy who got superstars yesterday back again to report that the Knuckles act might be the least fun I've ever had in a 2d Sonic game in my entire life. Will figure out if it is just a skill issue if I ever decide to replay it or if it is actually the worst. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>577766285Sonamy, shadria, silvaze, knuxouge/shadouge whenever they feel like it, Tailsmo if you count that. that's one for everyone who ind of matters
>>577766412Superstars is the one single Sonic game to live on my 'DNF' tag in Steam. I'd genuinely rank it up there with stuff like Sonic Labyrinth, or Sonic Blast, or the other crapware that literally nobody will defend.
>>577766501>knuxouge/shadouge whenever they feel like itdoes Sega team honestly support either at this point?
>>577766412knuckles was the most fun in S3&K because he let you go through paths that were usually locked for sonic and tails to see some new stuff. also gliding and wall climbing were fun. super slops is not that interesting really. i dropped it after beating fang in the jungle
>>577764174People dont care about the Vector Amy scene because it was a misunderstanding.Meanwhile the scene in Unleashed happens where a guy is macking on her and no one cared.The real truth is "Amy being 12" is a meme no one take seriously outside of recent years in order to virtue singal. Or attack ships.
>>577766676They support knuxouge and actively tease it. You'd know this if you paid attention instead of getting all your news from chat sites.
>>577766254No I don't. It's a pathetic you're trying to gatekeep fan status over the fact that I'm critical of the lack of things to do in Frontiers' islands
>>577766658Labyrinth hate is a meme. It's Kirby's Dream Course for Sonic and people love that game.
>>577762442He does it on the male characters too. So he at least is equal opportunity gooner.
>>577766676i think they do but i am not sure.i guess Sonamy and Silvaze are the 2 ones who constantly get content from the japanese side(if you exclude the western stuff) but i could be wrong
Why do faggots here get mad about Sonurge?
>>577766865>the lack of things to do in Frontiers' islandsYou didn't finish the game. Show me your achievement list. It better be 100%.
>>577766792what and when was the last Knuxouge thing they teased?
>>577766993They hate cute things
>>577766153>SpidermanfagStop also get out
>>577766890>contrarians exist for the 8-bit crapwareUh huh.
>>577767012I didn't even get the game. I'd just like for there to be buildings to explore and jump on like in Unleashed
>>577766743Amy's age 12 matters in context of those characters being youthful or having young hearts etc. but they aren't supposed to be a real representative of any actual age point.it's funny though that people are uncomfortable about maria ship stuff due to her listed age but no one cares if it's amy. because maria is more ''real''
>>577767081Literally every Spider-Man game is better than all the Sonic games of this decade
>>577767120Exactly, you're just repeating stupid opinions from people with a severe lack of critical thinking. Fuck you, faggot.
>Another Sonic Dating SimulatorWas it from that anon who said he was going to make one or it's another guy?https://www.patreon.com/cw/Azul35
>>577766792Soa supports it. I can't remember the last time knuxouge was in a game.
>>577766258Neither has a meaningful distinction from a player control standpoint. If you press the button, you are gonna get the same result.>>577766412Nah, Knuckles has always just not been that fun in 2D Sonic. People back in the day would only hype him up in the context of gliding over everything in Sonic 2 and that's it.
>>577767081I'm not a Spiderman fan either. I looked at the way those games are designed and I thought "What if Sonic games looked like this"
>>577766658>>577766703Once I started ignoring all the special stages (except Chaos Emerald ones), it actually got mildly alright. I might even call it pretty decent.
>>577767197Fangame creators shouldn't take money
>>577767083skill issue, git gud
>>577767197>patreon linkinstantly thinks of kemono/pawchive
>>577766676
>>577766658Its literally one of the best classic games.>but its not genesis pixel art!DieAlso Labyrith isnt even bad. Hating on it is a meme repeated by early internetfags because of a ScrewAttack video, and people repeated it to fit in.
>>577767239meow meow meow MEOW meow, meow MEOW *pukes on bedsheets*
>>577767187You must be fun at parties. The Frontiers honeymoon ended a while ago
>>577767413damn, featured on the month with valentines day no less
>>577767575I don't give a shit what you think. You didn't even play it. Loser.
>>577759664“He’s a box! My boy’s a box! Damn you! A box!”
>>577766658Superstars is perfectly fine
>>577766676>>577767413Sonic Team flips between Shadria and Shadouge depending on their mood
>>577767239Boring shit
>>577767728no it isn't
>still taking the bait
>>577767839They are both there for different reasons, Shadow is a volcel who won't move on from this girl while Rouge loves him because he's the one who is pure and won't fall for her charms but still cares for her, the guy not falling for the hot piece of meat is exactly why she likes him.
>>577767839then they conclude that shadamy is indeed cnc
>>5777670498/7/2026https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/fangallery/oshiete/20251114_009141/index.html>Fanartist comment:"Summer vacation is a treasure. Are you after the Master Emerald… or just teasing me? Deep down, Rouge might have wanted to enjoy summer with Knuckles too. The grapes she ate with him must have tasted sweeter than usual.">Sonic Team staff comment:Knuckles’ expression as he holds out the grapes is just perfect. He looks like he’s thinking "Better this than having the Master Emerald stolen." Rouge seems to be enjoying herself somehow too - I’d love to see more of these two after this.11/14/2025https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/fangallery/oshiete/20251114_009141/index.html>KIKUZO: Knuckles smells surprisingly good...!? Could it be... that natural scent? Like the earth and trees on a sunny day.>TOYODA: It's not impossible, but it must be a scent strong enough to make Rouge go dumb. A sweet, refreshing scent derived from his favorite fruit...
>frontiers>Anus Islandlmao
>>577767145Maria is more "real" because she is a human child and dead
>>577767413Putting two characters together is NOT shipping them you actual fucking moron. Next you'll say Sonic and Tails are a ship.
>>577767839both are canon
>>577767881yes it is, you're just sour because it wasn't mania 2
>>577767982marine but fishsubmarine
>>577759747>>577767727He's a box fox
>>577768049keked first time in weeks here
>>577768151no it's not
>>577767839No, no they do not. They don't tease Shadouge at all and shut it down directly. Meanwhile they support Shadria several times a year. You want them to be on the same level and they never will be in the eyes of the people who own and understand what and who Shadow is.
>>577768026Katie...
>>577768067true, but still, people treat shadria like it's sontails or blazeam tier when their actual age difference is sonic and amy rather than them and i think that was on purpose.
>>577768027
Shadouge will never be canon
>>577768089>valentine's month>"...always remain by your side"
>>577768009>while Rouge loves him because he's the one who is pure and won't fall for her charms but still cares for herKnuckles didn't fall for charms either
>>577768089>>577767576>month with valentine's day>with the quote saying "I'll always be by your side"
>>577768354that is a picture of me Lol
>>577767239https://youtu.be/g1Og5Tg_Jyo
>>577768354>>577768384what? you mean soa?
the best part about superstars was pinball carnival zone act 2 musicit's like the main one i still listen to from that game
>>577768176yes it is
>>577767197>36 members⸱14 posts⸱$80.75 /month⸱1 memberships>May 14>July 1He isn't making much but he also started quite early and he only made 14 posts.Is it that easy? Do Patreon people just throw money wherever they go?
petition to replace DURING PRIDE MONTH!!!!! with valentine's
Shadouge is always one-sided. Any, and I mean any, content where Rouge flirts with Shadow is completely irrelevant and not proof of "Shadouge" at all. She does that with all the men. We know she likes Shadow. Self-inserters forgot there's two people in a relationship and we have never, ever seen Shadow reciprocate or acknowledge her advances in any form. The most you can say is "he saved her" as though that means something when he saves Chris Thorndyke, Sonic, and random civilians too.
>>577768089I will agree with this.Shipping needs at least ONE indication romantic tension between the characters going either of the ways.
>>577768383he gets flustered more and shit and his song lyrics hint at attraction
>>577768153anon is on to something
would you a super sonic maker?
>>577768574>36 members>80.75/month>$2.24>Access exclusive benefits starting at $4/month>+18 Tier $8 / monthHuh? Also porn supporters aren't very rich, are they now? they rely on numbers.
It's funny how normie/casual spaces accept Sonamy as something that exists/teased now objectively while shadouge/silvaze/shadria get dismissed as you making up bullshit as a shipper.
>>577767176They are literally just arkam slop.
Still waiting for Sega to give us more Elisver
>>577767239Imagine getting mad at something you specifically asked.
>>577768875shadouge is making up bullshit because shadow doesn't feel anything for rouge
>>577768875Lol!
I am leaning towards the interpretation that Rouge flirts with almost every other male character but they all range from ignoring, not reciprocating to outright disliking her.Doesn't mean they can't feel attracted towards her, but with exception to Shadow, most of them don't exactly trust her.
>>577767145People dont carr about Maria's age. They just care that she is human.
>>577768659>one-sidedJust like Sonamy
>>577768974it exists one sidedly at least
>>577764174>>577766743>>577767145>>577768067>>577768249This is what's known as "cope". No, I'm not virtue signaling, I'm just calling you retarded. Ship whatever you want, Maria isn't any more real than any other character, none of this is real.
>>577768875I don't think normies even think about shipping and just see Amy as Sonic's Minnie Mouse equivalent, if they even know she exists.
>>577768806https://www.youtube.com/@SonicStudioProj/videosSomeone is already making one
>>577769149sonic actually likes amy, confirmed by sonic team. meanwhile they said shado and rouge arent even friends
>>577768974I saw a Shadow fan group on facebook with 80k members. a good 50-60% of the posts are shipping and 99% of it is shadamy. there's shadouge and shadikal too but they are rare
I wish Fortnite still worked on GNU/Linux =(
>>577767269I dont believe you
>>577769116Nah i've seen much more moralfagging about her than sonelise at this point, the meme used to be ''you hate sonelise but shadria is ok?'' now it's reversed due to virtue signalling even if people still dont unironically like sonelise. people dont give shit about roupaz either i legitimately think it's because maria looks young and is listed as 12
>>>577767413Shadouge gets teased with calendar art for valentine's month while Cuckles is still alone and chained to his rock
The more I learn about Shadow and Amy the more Shadamy feels like spiritual cuckoldry and a cope for not being able to have their first choice
>>577769329fort night worked on linux?
>>577769483Shadamy exists for the same reason women become infatuated with serial killers
>>577769209yes normie was bad wording, i should say twitterfags/redditfags instead, basically any place of fan discussion that isn't shtg
>>577768009>while Rouge loves him because he's the one who is pure and won't fall for her charms but still cares for herNice fanfiction
>you see, your ship is bad because [tremendous copium]>meanwhile mine is canon because [Enormous cope pack]
>>577768354>>577768384Literally every month had characters on it. Febuary's entire identity isnt just valentine's day, schizo
>>577768151It is Mania 2
My ship is canon because I say it it
>>577769179>"none of this is real."
>>577769879lol we had knuxamy calendar last year
>>577768875All I ever seen about Silvaze is the two of them being more interested in other characters than they ever were into the other.It's a "they sure exist standing in the same scene" tier of shipping>>577768974Shadow mostly ignores Rouges affections that could be or not romantic, it's a bit one-sided but there is something there.And Shadow outright Loved Maria, yep she is dead and he is all moody and emotionally closed now, I don't know if it's romantic or not, my interpretation prefers to lean NOT romantic, but go figure.
>>577769463Even though SoJ has shown time and time again that Knuckles can leave the Master Emerald and his island when he wants tooOnly SoA thinks that Knuckles can never ever leave the Master Emerald
The only thing that really matters in shipping is whether the portmanteau is catchy and snappy.Sonamy? Okay, 5.5/10. It works well enough.Sonally? Nope. Not great. 2.4/10.Sonadow? Blegh. 3.1/10. Shadic would be better.Sonurge? Great. 8.9/10. Really gives their relationship that visceral feeling.Sonaze? Eh. 4.7/10. Doesn't get that spark.Sonicks? Amaing. 9.7/10. Best ship possible for Sonic.
>>577769995they are a bit esoteric about it but they aren't really interested in other characters romantically more than they are to each other.shadria was definitely intended to parallel sonamy
>>577769929based beaikal KING
>>577769575For quite a while, yes. It worked with your standard Proton/Wine compatibility layer. Then Epic changed the way their "anti-cheat" works and Epic chooses to specifically disallow Linux users to play. They claim it's because "muh haxxors use linux" but they always refuse to publish the numbers that actually back it up. I can play Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, and other competitive online games on Linux without overzealous "anti-cheat" measures preventing me from playing. League of Legends and Valorant have the same issue. League used to work on Linux, but then Riot decided to do "kernel level anti-cheat" Vanguard
>>577770152not fair. sonally is great
>>577769995i mean they compare shadow and maria to husband and wife. several times. it's only easy to deny romance is there if you're unaware of just how hard it gets shilled over in jp
>>577770152Sonurge is indeed a really fucking amazing of a portmanteau ship name all things considered.
>>577769434>Nah i've seen much more moralfagging about her than sonelise at this point,Because Maria is more current thanks to ShadowGens, the movie and Dark Beginnings, etc.Elise is considered old news/passé. There isn't any real argument bring made for it because shitting on her and Sonelise is just treated as consensus.Doesn't change the fact most of the tagging about Maria is abou her being a human and "sibling coded" is just used as an excuse.
>>577770552He literally dies for a woman.
>>577770190>Silver and his second cousin
>>577770590I've seen the 2 sonelisefags get away without being moralfagged but never shadria
>>577770552Fujo "humor", everyone
Shadow is very heterosexual and it would not be a debate whatsoever if there were an alternate universe where Maria was aged up two years and then made into a Blobian. Absolutely zero people would deny it. Nobody. The only reason they can ignore it is because of the ages and the species difference.
>>577769463Dougeshitter....this same comic had Rouge appear in a vision from the Master Emerald.>>577769483A lot of women project onto Amy be default just because she is the main girl.For a lot of them, the Sonic cuckoldry element is a feature, not a bug.They like the idea of Amy "choosing between Sonic or Shadow" like its Twilight and she is Bella or whatever.The idea of "fine ill go be with your edgy rival" is part of the appeal.
>>577770336kernel level anti cheat is an overkill solution for a bunch of retards who take their toys too seriously that they would cheat. imagine cheating on a game. i avoid games like these where the solution is unpleasant and the userbase are as terrible. I do hear about how much autism surrounds those big MOBAs / MMOs specially LOL
>>577770889I mean people deny knuxouge/silvaze/literally anyhting that isn't sonamy or vectilla at this point. they wouldn't moralfag as much but there would still be copes.
Me when I call my sister beautiful/pretty/attractive and conclude she is the meaning to my entire life
>>577770717Eh it's because Shadria is too pure and angelical-like, and Sonelise isn't.I find the feeling of mutual attraction and tension really hard to decode from Shadow and Maria, while from Sonic and Elise, It's weird from the way it was developed but it can technically be there.
>>577770152>my ships' names good. Yours meh.
>>577770889Sonic is also very heterosexual. Only people who deny it are terminally online, ultraliberal Sonadow fujos on Twitter
canon btw
>foolish hedgehog! Behold my new moves!
>>577771275Sonadowfujos like the ''maria is reincarnated as sonic'' theory
>>577770990So the emerald was manipulating Knuckles? The vision where Knuckles was about to punch her face in? Then the emerald manifested his boyfriend anyway.
>>577771034>knuxouge/silvaze/literally anyhting that isn't sonamyPeople deny Sonamy all the time. It is the most denied ship despite being the most supported.
This is me and my sister when we are just like lovers
>>577771372They love to see things that aren't there. It's like when Shadamy fangirls say that Amy is just reincarnated Maria
>>577771525>AI
>>577771496I've seen twitter/redditfags recently admit that it's something purposefully teased or ''shipbaited'' they just cope that it's fanservice. whereas for anything not sonamy/vectilla you're accused straight up making up bullshit that isn't there.
>>577771429>emerald was manipulating Knuckles?Showing him what he was thinking.
>>577770990I think it's only fair Amy fans have a way out of the Sonic humiliation ritual if they don't like the dynamics.The edgier rival alternate pairing is valid.
Knuckles likes men, women make him feel uncomfortable
canoner btw
>>577771681Nigga do you just not know what Tanabata is
>>577771715About caving in Rouge's face?
>>577771680I can kind of see why they think it's there because Sonic in the ending of SA2 repeats what maria said (Adios/Sayonara shadow) but obviously maria didn't reincarnate as anyone.
>>577771697Only recently because people push the narrative that "she matured and now sonic loves her back"(which is nonsense)But prior people would insist Sonic hates her despite all the evidence to the contrary. Yes even X got denied by people.It wasnt even that long ago. Prior to Frontiers everyone dunked on you and denied any hint suggesting Amy was the girl with the pink hearts mentioned in Frontiers leaks.If you ever ask why Amyfags have this persecution conplex, shit like that is why.
>>577771742Cute and Canon!
Remember when a Shadamy shipper asked Maekawa if Amy could possibly be reincarnated Maria, and Maekawa said "If she were Maria, Shadow would have known immediately", and the Shadamyfag deleted their post out of embarrassment
Look at this smirk, there's literally no hetero explanation for it. You just know he loves taking it in the back
>>577771732>Sonic humiliation ritualThis doesnt exist outaide of social media.>The edgier rival alternate pairing is valid.No it isn't. Neither character would do that.>>577771873Anon....
>>577771954Windii and her inner circle of pathetic Sonadow fujos on Twitter before her account got deleted actually believed this. These people don't live in reality
You can tell Sonadowfags hate both of the characters because most of them portray Shadow as the top
>>577771954Its actually stolen from Amyfag/Shadamyfag memes because the idea of being a Maria reincarnation started with Amy.But then Sonadowfags appropriated the trope because they hate women.
they date, they get married. then they make a time travelling son
>>577772073
>>577772035I think archieshit was a factor in that, people probably thought sonic would act like he does around sally or whatever and the games themselves never overtly showed that sonic would reject other girls. SOA sabotaging amy and sonic's dialogue and adding sonazebait that wasn't really there in japanese to rush didn't help either.i also think people actually analyzing the sonic game stories other than looking at parodies or going by what you remember in your head when you were 8 is a recent thing overall so then people realize sonamy was always there when you actually analyze it seriously as an adult.
>>577772523>adding sonazebaitThis didnt happen. Stop legitimizing fanfiction.
>>577772398>filenamemaekawa-kun likes shadamy tho. just maybe not the reincarnation theory because he wanted to do it with another human woman instead with amy
Nothing happened
>>577772657>They have so much chemistryThey don't. It's literal fan fiction and aesthetic over actual substance. Shadow is emotionally distant and wouldn't want Amy to be romantic with him.Chemistry is just a buzzword at this point
>>577772657You can like art without meaning its what you think is the truth in canon.The problem is you people treats lore and characterization as existing in service to confirming your ship.Maekawa could be the biggest Shadamyfag and still think theybare different souls because he isnt obligated to push or agree with headcanons that support ships he may or may not like.
The rock has spoken!
>>577772625In english he says ''this is from me'' which invites people hallucinating something special, in japanese he just says that they'll meet again.I don't think sonaze is real but i can see why the dialogue change invited people to seiously argue it was a thing
>>577772861The term "chemisty" in general has been wattered down and overused in general at this point. Its now just a thing people say to make something sound more legitimate rather than just saying "i like them together".
>>577772916Japanese creators just like to see people appreciate their creations through fanart, it doesn't mean they ship them. its different from western mindsetwhen asked he says he only likes shadria and silvaze.
>>577772861they datin' they marryin. they cookin silver hedgehogs
>>577772075kek, anon thinks knuckles is a receiverif anything he tops sonic's blue bussy
>>577772185Did windii actually discuss sonic being reincarnated maria?I'd make tails the reincarnation cuz it's funny.
>>577772398>I think the idea itself is very unique and interesting. Still, I feel that Maria and Amy are, after all, different souls. If that's the case, I think Shadow would notice it the moment he meets Amy.In other words: Shadow is familiar enough with Maria's soul that he would instantly detect whether Amy has it or not. Since Maekawa thinks Shadow and Amy don't share a soul, Shadow would realize the difference between them (i.e., "this is not Maria’s soul") right away.He's saying Shadow and Maria are soulmates btw.
>>577773342Crocurge
>>577772035Amy still can't catch a break even today and we all know who's responsible
>>577772954This is how I know you didnt even play Rush and your entire impression of this is based on online shipping discourse.No normal person plays that and reads it as meaning anything.SoA didn't "put shipbait in the game". You're just legitimizing shipfag memes.
>>577772951Fuck off knuxpiotard, he's looking at Vector.
>>577773342gyaru whisper is s tier. sorry ladies
>>577773281>2 new postsNo but she retweeted art made by a Korean Sonadow fujo once that said it in the caption
>>577773342Sergey the gator
>>577772951Damn can't deny the facts, Knuckles is gay for Espio so says the master emerald
>>577773573>>577773408
>>577773568 (me)I didn't mean to put "2 new posts" in my reply. I don't even know where that came from
>>577773481I played Rush 2 times and didn't think it was romantic, however people who actually played the game even more than still argued the ending scene had romantic subtext objectively. you overrate ''actually playing the games'' as if people can't misunderstand or make up shit while still finishing them.
Knuckles loves Sonic and the Master Emerald knows it!
>>577770889Hey Krack
>>577773113I know, but its also just a different attitude with fandom culture in the east vs the west in general.Shipping is primarly defined by shipwars and canonization legitimacy teamsports ship over here.Its the same with vsdebates here where its just trying to "casebuild" that your pet character can beat up everyone elses".It's in large part just a difference in how love is viewed there compared to here.
>>577773129Takashi Iizuka already denied your headcanon, Katie
>>577772954It's not the dialogue alone, it's the whole scene.Sonaze is one of the few ships that is so effortless to show the chemistry that I don't even bring it up anymore, I can only have two interpretations about it.It's either one sided with Blaze having the stronger feelings towards an neutral or aloof Sonic, or it's reciprocal with both of them restraining themselves over an impossible relationship.
I love Bat tits.
>>577773483sorry but Vector only has eyes for Espio
>>577773908Let's make him change his mind then niqqa
>>577773935Shadow...
>>577773528Is the Korean equivalent of the gyaru fashion trend also called gyaru?
>>577772523>sallyall shippers need to get it through their thick skulls that the way sonic acted in the archie comics is due to his personality being based on satam. he is not the same character as game sonic. game sonic shouldn't treat amy the way archie sonic treated sally.
>>577773065Chemistry just means "I think they look good together because of their color schemes" nowadays
>>577769329The penguin is doing you a favor and keeping you from having shit taste in games.
>>577773774Not the point. The point is, SoA didnt "put in shipbait" in the game. Whatever romantic shit people interpreted had nothing to do with the dialogue.
Why can't anons except the inevitable canonicity of this?
>>577773794That's his bro, even if he's a pain in the ass.>>577773129This is literally just the Olympic games Sonamy clip but with Shadow.
>>577774657Rouge says she never wants children
>>577774563I've seen people say it was ''more ambigous'' in japanese after they watched japanese from windii including said shipfags but whatever.
>>577774737>This is literally just the Olympic games Sonamy clip but with Shadow.This just proves Shadamy fangirls just want a black and red Sonic. They have to change Shadow's personality to make Shadamy look palpable
>>577774780women change their mind about this when the meet the right man
>>577774737No this was the shadow and amy mascots from last year
>>577772861>>577773065chemistry just means ''i think the interactions of those 2 characters is more interesting'' rather than who actually gets along or feels attraction. if 2 characters who get along and understand each other has a dynamic you don't like or find boring it's ''no chemistry''
>>577774956Cope
>>577774125https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B0%B8%EB%A3%A8>Gyaru is a subculture encompassing the ideology and style derived from the women's fashion popular in Japan during the Heisei era . It is characterized by heavy, black face makeup, black or white eye makeup, tanning , and flashy hairstyles and fashion. The word "Gyaru" itself is derived from the English word "Girl," which means a young girl .>It is a Japanese loanword derived from the American slang word " Gal ." Originally in Japan, this word meant "a young woman who is active, sociable, and knowledgeable about fashion trends," but as the current image became established, the meaning changed. In foreign countries, to distinguish it from "Gal" in meaning, the Japanese word is transliterated as "Gyaru" to create a distinction.
Hello
>>577774657these guys would be laughing at shadow and rouge
>>577774657In one of Rouge's first appearances there is almost 20 minutes of story showing that Rouge is not great with kids and does not want to be a mother to contrast with Amy who wants to be a mother >but she could change thoughSo you want a different character who isn't Rouge
>>577774956Sadly, that only happens after their eggs have dried up and realized that feminism was all just a massive scam
>>577773856How love is viewed compared to here? what do you think is the difference.>>577773921I legitimately don't see it, i unironically see more for sonadow than this.
Surge loves Sonic
>>577775135and amy also doesn't like shadow, you guys both want to change characters.
Any info on those Modern and Classic Sonic game compilations they announced a while back
>>577775185I mean , if it was Shadow and Sonic at the ending of Sonic Rush, there would be zero and I mean ZERO doubts that both of them are gay as fuck.
>>577775000
>>577775436Nah i think Sonaze is heavily dependant on Blaze being a girl, if she wasn't the same shipfags would argue ''oh so every friendship is gay now?''japan doesn't even see it as romance or anyone non western really, i only see the west do it.
>>577775025>chemistry just means ''i think the interactions of those 2 characters is more interesting''No it doesn't....because the interactions are made up by the person saying it.
>>577775503Nope. they don't do that. the shadow and amy mascots from last year did. this video is literally based on them
>>577775503Annoying bestie
>>577775081>>It is a Japanese loanword derived from the American slang word " Gal ." Originally in Japan, this word meant "a young woman who is active, sociable, and knowledgeable about fashion trends,"Amy Rose
<3
>>577775135>So you want a different character who isn't Rougesorry for wanting the characters to not be static and uninteresting
New Sonic model is going to have separated eyes like the movie
>>577776190Is this really your argument
>>577776230Where's this from
>>577776306https://x.com/SEGA/status/2089034544414417322
>>577775185>How love is viewed compared to here? what do you think is the difference.People here view love as having and being in a relationship, with a focus on being able to say you have a partner as a spocial flex.There they view love as the feelings themselves, independant of any actual relationship.Works that explore love over there focus on the feeling, the forms and the eays love is felt and expressed and what it means.Here we tend to just focus on "good vs bad" versions of relationship dynamics. The focus is on how the relationship looks.
>>577775629>>577775436Also the lack of female Sonaze shippers, it literally is dependant on waifufags and wouldn't survive as an actual gayship.
>>577776382shadoo franchaisu
>>577775991fuck off attentionwhore
>>577776382Well I hope that doesn't happen, Sonic's monoeye is too iconic, and I don't want the movies affecting the games like this
>>577775729>coping this hard.
>>577776393Yea, that's why a lot of animanga for younger audience either likes to put romantic subtext without putting them in a ship endgame/tragic romances etc. or do stuff like exploring taboo relationships despite having younger audience. CLAMP works is a good example of ''love itself'' being the point.
>>577775081>>577775910Is it fair to say Whisper is closer to Ganguro, which is kinda a subculture of Gyaru?
>>577776190>static and uninteresting>badThis isn't even a real argument. Youre just using this as a cop-out at convenience to justofy changes where you personally want them or else you wouldn't be making the argument about it being in or out of character to begin with.
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>>577776470Melting the ice queen/tsundere is a male fantasy trope.
>>577776230Seperate eyes is literally just autism and laziness.
>>577776606>"heh c..cope"you're the one high on dat cope pack, niqqa. getouttahere bitchboy
it takes a big man to admit a pairing only works if you completely disregard how the characters actually act in the videogames
>>577776913Shadamy fangirls love using this trope too and it's evident
>>577777085/sthg/ are mostly small men and a plenty of lonely women
>>577776230Ugly
>>577776913If sonaze had actual very blatant romantic subtext in rush you'd still see a bit more female shipfags of it imo, cheerful/hot blooded boy and stoic girl pairings still get female fans.Ironically i think if sonamy and silvaze were gender swapped to be gay people born past 2001 probably would see more arguments for them being officially hinted than their current versions .
>>577777339
>>577776510We are yet to see the outcome of this very interesting and unexplained move
>>577776382Lol I think it means more so that they used AI for this video.
You’re laughing. They fucking cubed my son and you’re laughing
>>577776681Exactly. In CCS for example, they have a character who has a crush on her teacher and they treat it as okay. She is a little girl with a simple crush on her adult male teacher. He doesnt try to tell her stop or that's bad or anything. He just acknowledges it and lets her her be. But in the west, we treat characters having crushed or shown to be interested in someone as a "set up" with the expectation of a "pay off" that they will get together. The feelings themselves don't matter. What matters is thr "win" of getting into the relationship and saying youre in one.This is how you get people confused with Amy. The point with her was never about whether she would get with Aonic or not. It was just the fact she felt that way about him and it have her wings, and motivated her as well as helped her motivate others.
>>577777551
>>577777602Takashi Iizuka has Shadow autism just like how Ken Penders has Echidna autism
>>577776230>>577776382>either AI or a dogshit redesignEither way please just cancel this franchise. We don't need Sonic the Hedgehog anymore
>>577777675I don't know what to think of this
>>577776751No because Whisper is supposed to be actually dark-skinned because Evan is woke and opened a can of worms that never should have been opened.Also she doesn't have the personality for it.Unless Evan is hiding something.
>>577777869the black creature sells
>>577777776Off by one
>>577777676I think in the CCS manga the little girl and the teacher actually date, CLAMP actually didn't care bakc then lol.I still think the sonic and amy thing is appealing to shippers (not necessarily in the way them getting together is the point, but they wanted people to analyze their moments and draw fanart of them kissing and shit )
Imagine Sega trying to pull another Sonic Boom, but now it's a Movienic adjacent universe.
>>577776971Why are people squirting Mountain Dew into Sonic's eyes?
>>577776913Also, see how Silvaze fans often portray Blaze as being a dommy mommy to a submissive Silver?Sonaze is more about Sonic proving more masculine and more dominant than her, revealing her hidden more feminine more submissive side, I kinda blame the Percival scene in SaTBK for that one perception.
'When I was 8 I played SA2B with my 5 year old cousin and he kept calling Shadow "the black guy"
>>577777981Very on brand for Sega to spend years treating Shadow like a joke because youtubers said he was cringe, only to later find out he's the most popular character in the franchise
>>577777675
>>577778102maybe monoeyes need mtndew to remain moist. can't expect normal eye drops to work when you are at mach speeds all day with no eye wear
>>577778260Was Shadow treated like a joke by Sega at any point?
>>577778148Yeah, the kind of people waifufag blaze like to break her. but i still don't think it objectively has enough romantic subtext that people would think the rush scene was mass homosexuality if blaze was male. that probably applies to silvaze if anything.
>>577774657>inevitable canonicityYou know Silver comes from too far in the future to be anyone's kid, right?
>>577777886Technically Rouge set the precedence of dark-skinned blobians.
>>577777676>This is how you get people confused with Amy. The point with her was never about whether she would get with Aonic or not. It was just the fact she felt that way about him and it have her wings, and motivated her as well as helped her motivate others.I'm sorry but when a male and a female character who are both closely aged as each other and are respectively said to be Mickey and Minnie Mouse, are ship teased then how can you not expect people to want them to get together? That Japanese trope is not an excuse
>>577778402No, the only example they always use is his portrayal in Boom but that wasn't exclusive to him and was also in a period where SoJ had low influence in the series. Shadow was mostly preserved by Iizuka
>>577777602Remember when people were coping that this would lead to other characters getting focus. lol
>>577778080This would end very badly
Shadow was only treated like a joke in Archie and IDW.
>>577778402No, he just wasn’t used as much as they would’ve liked, despite him showing up in things like Boom for no reason. They’ll now use the success of movie 3 (even though it was barely more successful than the 1st 2) to keep pumping him until everyone gets sick of him just like last time
>>577776230I don't want to write another fucking letter. But I will if I have to.
>>577778689Does SoJ have more influence now? it still seems SoA dominant.
Cutemy!
>>577777602>>577778770Trademarks don't really mean anything. Companies file plenty of them as a "just incase" measure.
>>577776230
>>577755861i like honey
>>577778895I think Sonic Team is in a stronger position now so they can maintain their outline for the series in the east, but it seems in the west SoA still changes stuff
What if we get a Movie Sonic game as a spinoff?
>>577778869Shadow's popularity is astroturfed by Takashi Iizuka. When he loses popularity due not saturation, Amy is going to take his place and then Silver will take Amy's place. That's the cycle
>>577779134I don't think online autists pressuring SoJ to maintain japanese authenticity will solve much. our only hope is probably sonic getting more popular in japan which means we re fucked.
>>577778840>Implying Shadow was only treated like a joke in Archie and IDW.The Dash & Spin manga was a pioneer on that front.
>>577778901
>>577779180It’ll probably be better than most of the other bullshit games of recent memory
>>577779197 (me)*due to
>>577779270Yeah SoJ doesn't seem to care about how Sonic is portrayed in the west
>>577779197>Amy>SilverKeep fucking dreaming.
>>577779197Nah i like amy but she doesn't have the appeal to become an actual second popularity type character, in fact silver might've surpassed her in popularity even in the west.
>>577779089
>>577779271That was a gag manga. Everyone was a joke there.
>>577778074>I think in the CCS manga the little girl and the teacher actually date, CLAMP actually didn't care bakc then lol.Damn, CLAMP is next level. Not even shocked though.>I still think the sonic and amy thing is appealing to shippers (not necessarily in the way them getting together is the point, but they wanted people to analyze their moments and draw fanart of them kissing and shit )Well yeah and that's to be expected, but it also belies the different attitude towards shipping over there compared to here in general.Shipping culture here is defined by shipwars. Whether its "who is best girl betty vs veronica in Archie" or TeenWolf and Twilight fangirls arguing about whether Bella should get with Edward or Jacob.. etc.The focus is on "who gets to be in the relationship and win" and if you can prove the legitimacy of the relationship.
>>577779440>in fact silver might've surpassed her in popularity even in the west.There's absolutely no chance.
>>577779180>2000sfags finally get everything they want out of Sonic in terms of world design and story...>...with the caveat that they have to play as Ben Schwartznic with no alternatives.Worth it?
>>577779180I just hope it's 3D and doesn't have any meddling by the lore team
>>577779629Yes. How quickly we forget Pontaffnic
>>577776230>open thread>see this>close thread
>>577777675this is a fetish just so you know, someone likely jacked off to this version of tails
>>577778260>years treating Shadow like a jokeThis didnt happen. Stop confusing internet culture for SEGA's treatment of the character.
Game Sonic should retire because at this point they will never recapture what made him special as a characterJust go with movie Sonic.
Wearing backpack Tails
>>577777874you're free to leave anytime you want anon
>>577778260Shadowfags wouldn’t last one day as a Tailsfag
>>577778593Barely. Once Wisper was made, there was no more ambiguity to it anymore. Now every character has to be seen through the lends of literal skin color comparisonI like Evan but her wokiness does bother me.
>>577779627Casual shonenfags already care more about silver because of being a male hedgehog who looks like sonic and future premise powers etc. alone, the only thing keeping amy more popular is girls and shipfag types, troons etc., whereas silver can also get girls and shipfags on top of the casuals who think his premise and design is cool.
>>577780058Yeah kinda sucks being one :/
>>577775910amy is more of a genki girl than actually gal
>>577779383This is really bad. How do we even get them to actually do something?
>>577778609>That Japanese tropeIts not a "trope". Its just a fundementally different attitude towards consumer fiction in general. Shit like this isn't even rare in western media OUTSIDE of american cartoons and comics. The problem is you reduce characters to relationship components and see everything as an "investment" instead of a story.
>>577780286Localization is a normalized business process in entertainment. They won't change how they operate
Evan writes Sonic better than Ian and it's not even closeHer errors are that she makes Sonic too cuddly and too vicious but these are barely noticable. Sonic shouldn't have tried to kill Belle after seeing her react with fear. Sonic consciously avoided acting that way towards Emerl while thinking he's an Eggman Robot
>>577779089>EnriqueI like this one. Hope it sticks.
which anime should i watch to understand sonic the hedgehog
>>577780286Be a little obvious and go bother your boyfriend, Krack.
>>577780447What the lore team is doing isn't localization. It's corrupting the characters. Like I've said before, to the lore team, Sonic is just a vanity project they can use to brag about how they made it as fans and influenced the franchise for the better. They're trying to turn Sonic into their personal fan fiction. That's not localization
>>577780598One Piece
>>577779270Apparently Sonic is getting more popular in japan after Frontiers and thanks to Blade of Courage and JetBlack Shadow.Sonic is not "hated" by thr japanese. He's just not the touchstone cultureal icon there like he is here is all. If you are in Smash Bros, you are known by default really.
>>577780598Dr. Stone. In terms of narrative Senku serves the same function as Sonic. A guy who's in it for the love of the game and inspires everyone around him in the process. Saves the world but isn't in it for the sake of justice. Attracts women but doesn't pursue them.
>>577780598Evangelion is required if you want to understand Frontiers
>>577780625Not your boogeyman
>>577780761I don't think it's hated and it's just american internet culture making everything extreme black white shit but even then its still a lot of time until it nears popularity of western audience so we're stuck SoA graping again.
>>577762887Interesting how the (Saturn?) Adventure concept was not that far from Unleashed.>>577763294To be fair, they probably had the lines as throwaways and assigned the model arbitrarily without thinking it through.
>>577778901>>577779283I love her!
>>577778074>>577777676>Exactly. In CCS for example, they have a character who has a crush on her teacher and they treat it as okay. She is a little girl with a simple crush on her adult male teacher. He doesnt try to tell her stop or that's bad or anything. He just acknowledges it and lets her her be.lol, they are actually just gf and bf
>What the lore team is doing isn't localization. It's corrupting the characters. Like I've said before, to the lore team, Sonic is just a vanity project they can use to brag about how they made it as fans and influenced the franchise for the better. They're trying to turn Sonic into their personal fan fiction. That's not localization
>>577779594It's still proof that people outside of IDW and Archie were treating Shadow like a joke.Iizuka saw this and was like, "No need to write 5 million notes cuz that's Shadow the Hedgehog!"
>>577779440Yeah>>577779627At the end of the day, its a boys action series, dude. Silver is another Sonic-lookalike who goes super. It is what it is.Wonderwoman gets the sake kind of bullshit in DC.>>577779975Movie Sonic has a shelf life. Game Sonic doesn't because his core concept is timeless. The people that keep trying to deviate him from those things are just people trying to "fix" something so they can leave their mark, nothing else.The movies can't go on forever. There isn't enough substance to them for that.
You guys keep explaining how these ships can be canon and it literally always involves making the character writing less consistentAnd then your argument will be that it is inconsistent anyways so you should make it less consistent because shipping. You don't care about these characters.
>>577779626Yeah they actually date i remembered reading it. there's also the teacher dating sakura's brother while he was in middle school though his troo match is yukito.yeah, but the tactic still works in the west, X, games between 98-2009 and IDW probably invited more shippers than explicit ones like archie.
>>577780360Every story is an investment because you're there to enjoy it all the way through from beginning-rising action-climax-falling action-resolution. You're there for the whole thing, not select bits and pieces
Why do Sonamyfags keep saying Sonic X is a Sonamy show when one of the final episodes basically spells out that Amy herself doesn't believe that Sonic loves her. It's a plot relevant episode too because it marks the point when Cosmo and Tails start openly liking each other
>>577780204This, and I say this as an Amyfag. It's just how series' like this go.If you're a girl, you aren't the main demographics' fave character. Even if you are action-y and cool. Because people would rather an action-y and cool boy instead. The most you can do is gather waifufags, simps and shipfags to make up the difference.>>577780270These aren't mutually exclusive though?
>>577781665>These aren't mutually exclusive though?true, but amy acts too childish to be full on gal, i guess u can say its a bit of it, but ehFull on gyaru amy would probably be cute as hell desu
>>577780512Evan writes all the characters better. Ian just "does cooler things" with em.
>>577774657Iizuka is still mad someone made Silver Galahand behind his back in Black Knight and haven't recovered from the betrayal
>>577780761>Apparently Sonic is getting more popular in japan after Frontiers... which is the game with the least amount of Sonic like world-building, elements and aesthetics, none of identifying iconicism Genesis, Adventure, spin-off titles and etc built for Sonic and all the mooching carbon copy off Genshin and other gacha shit with soulless enemies, Unreal Engine stock terrain and a loli to boot off for appeasing pedos (aka 85% of japanese population). Wow, finally, a Sonic game with only 2% of Sonic for japs!>Blade of Courage and JetBlack Shadow.If that's true, then the publisher wouldn't be anyway butthurt over pirating their mangas as if it costs a leg and arm off them.>>577780937You're being disingenuous and superficially face value for your snowflake self-hating lardass burger self. People don't mean it literally, they don't hate it, they just don't care about Sonic at all you retard.
>>577781665I think besides that, the male hedgehogs, and especially silver can also get tons of normal girls and shipfags being invested in them, whereas the female characters are mostly dependant on either waifufags or girls. like even in a 50/50 fan audience males will edge out for this reason.
>>577780761for however small the actual sonic fanbase is over in japan, the fanart sure is KINO
>>577781626It was ambiguous at the end of the initial series (season 2). Then 4Kids commissioned one more season and everyone promptly forgot Sonic's lip flap.
Would you guys say Evan being a woman affects her writing
>>577780598The only real answer is Sonic X because there isn't really one specific anime you can watch to understand Sonic as a character. It's just a kind of understanding you build by watching and reading a bunch of anime stuff in general.But even X isn't exactly perfect.If you just want an anime recommendation tho, go watch Gurren Lagann.
>>577781963Japanese take pirating more seriously in general, same with art reposting and shit, it's a cultural difference.
>>577780973Me, too.
>>577781975We just don't get to see the bad stuff, only the good stuff gets a lot of visibility overseas.
>>577781963I am a non american poster.
>>577781068Am I wrong? The lore team only exists because Sonic Team is gullible enough to hand over the franchise to a bunch of Burgerstanis who don't will only consider something they worked on canon. The lore team is like a vanity record label. Its members just want to stroke their own egos by putting their names in the credits. What they're doing to Amy is not localization. There's not even any consistency within the lore team. Amy is bubbly sand energetic in TMOSTH but cool and level headed in Dream Team. Chris has his own headcanon about Amy and Katie has hers
>>577780973>>577782182amy is cute as fuck, sonic girls in general are cute as fuck
>Am I wrong? The lore team only exists because Sonic Team is gullible enough to hand over the franchise to a bunch of Burgerstanis who don't will only consider something they worked on canon. The lore team is like a vanity record label. Its members just want to stroke their own egos by putting their names in the credits. What they're doing to Amy is not localization. There's not even any consistency within the lore team. Amy is bubbly sand energetic in TMOSTH but cool and level headed in Dream Team. Chris has his own headcanon about Amy and Katie has hers
>>577782096It's not really a cultural thing, it's just Japanese business influencing public opinion on piracy over there. Their fear of pirating or infringing copyright isn't organic
age of consent is 08
the true shadow ship
>>577782273hell yea
>>577781068But you don't understand! I -NEED- to make a space for myself in the industry! Everyone k n o w s all localization is full of shit! Therefore, -I-, the most esteemed undereducated weeb in the onlinverse who never took a single course of Nihongese, can do AN Y T H I N G to be "Better" that a (hah!) LOLCALIZER. Hire Me, Segado!
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>>577782407I love Dicks!
>>577782189now that you mention it I don't think I've ever seen the Japanese equivalent of early 2000s deviantart fanart. Shame because I want to see what Japanese cringe art looks like now
>>577782395what a slut
>>577780761>He's just not the touchstone cultureal icon there like he is here is all.Is Sonic even that in the west anymore?
>>577782594Just copy paste character tags in pixiv
>>577781068>>577782525Why are you defending SOA when they are making things worse They are the reason you didn't get rock music in Sonic games for ten years
>>577780761>>577781963like one week ago I saw a japanese guy saying Sonic was becoming more popular in japan. Another japanese guy replied with "are you sure"?It's not happening
>>577782026I wouldn't say her being a woman affects her writing so much as her being an ultraliberal millennial who crawled out of the fringes and hug boxes of Tumblr and Deviantart. THere's a massive difference between how Evan writes Sonic and Silver and how Kiyoko Yoshimura wrote them in 06 and Unleashed
>>577781068This is true though.
>>577781665Yeah, i've seen people go ''silver should've been a girl'' but what that would actually do outside of shtg gooners is doom the character forever to obscurity unlike the traction hes getting now.
>>577782552
>Why are you defending SOA when they are making things worse>They are the reason you didn't get rock music in Sonic games for ten years
>>577780937>it's just american internet culture making everything extreme black white shitCorrect>but even then its still a lot of time until it nears popularity of western audience so we're stuck SoA graping again.We dont need it to match the west. It just has to be big enough to be respectable. SoJ will show bias to home market presence, and writers and devs from Japan getting in on the series and brand means the body grows and becomes harder to ignore.Sonic is less focused on in the west because its more popular here and moreso due to the lack of presence in Japan really.>>577780989Reminder CLAMP started as fujo doujinshi writers who met up at comiket.>>577781078Doubtful. I think youre just making things up to be mad about.>>577781467>Every story is an investment because you're there to enjoy it all the way through from beginning-rising action-climax-falling action-resolution.No, Freytax's triangle doesn't define the structure of all stories. PumpkinSwift video i saw too. Its a midwit claim.
Sonic is TOTALLY growing in popularity in Japan guys, it's FINALLY happening!
>>577782491
>>577781078Gag manga. Archie and IDW are trying to tell serious stories, so when they clown on a character it comes off as bitter or mean-spirited rather than funny.
>>577782594I'm quite sad the "early 2000s deviantart fanart" aesthetic will be a lost artform due to AI slop.
>>577782726Kiyoko never wrote silver, his was written by maekawa and nakamura, but yea. even male writers agendafag archiedow, uwuver and vulnerablenic in the west all the time but people ignore it unironically because of misogyny or excuse to incelpost.
>>5777826471. Sonic isn't defined with just rock and you'd know that if you played more than one Sonic game.2. you are deliberately distorting this. They said not every game needs vocals (and they were right, not every Sonic game needs bursting up budgets for vocal songs stuck into mediocre games anyway).
>>577781819>childish?I don't see why this is supposedly relevant. Amy is described as a kogal anyway.>Full on gyaru amy would probably be cute as hell desuIf they want to "mature" her, that would be the correct direction for her.
>>577782892>Reminder CLAMP started as fujo doujinshi writers who met up at comiket.yep, they are a bunch of perverts
>>577782096>>577782394Japan is an ultra-capitalist, over-industrialized, corporate-bootlicking culture. Of course they won't push back on corporate lobbying. Pirating entertainment over there carries more severe punishments than sexually abusing a child
>>577782946Wasn't there a meme about girls vs boys at the beach? I recall the chicks were loafing about but the guys were in the background building stuff.
>>577783027Westfags hate Sonic
>>577782965>mean-spiritedMr. Enter...
>>577781963>which is the game with the least amount of Sonic like world-building,>sonic>worldbuildingArchiefag....also youre full of crap anyway. Frontiers is the one game that overly references and connects everything from the lore>aestheticsSonic is not just GreenHill Zone from Sonic 2 or StardistSpeedway Bad Future.>If that's true, then the publisher wouldn't be anyway butthurt over pirating their mangas as if it costs a leg and arm off them.I fail to see how this is at all relevant.
>>577783064>I don't see why this is supposedly relevant. Amy is described as a kogal anyway.i dont think both fit in a character, but that may be just me
>>577783014UWUver is Evan's creation, not a man's
>>577782892>... to be mad about.Not mad, just pointing out that writers making jokes with the Sonic cast isn't exclusive to US writers.Though I do wonder why Sonic manga seems to get more creative leeway(both officially and from the fanbase) compared to the Western comics, especially after the 90s.
>>577781963>You're being disingenuous and superficially face value for your snowflake self-hating lardass burger self. People don't mean it literally, they don't hate it, they just don't care about Sonic at all you retard.Japanesw fans actually complain abput how hard westerners downplay Sonic's presence in Japan and claim that they hate it.Because Americans always act in black and white and extremes to try and push agendas or points. And then people start to believe the memes.Like with people thinking Amy was a yandere.
>>577782946>Amy with a tan bellyFanon "I can make it better" shit.
>>577781973It doesn't even matter in that respect which is why I brought up demographics. Even girls are more likely to latch onto the male character if she is the type to be drawn to this kind of series in the first place. So there is a selection bias even from the female side.That doesnt mean Amy is irrelevant either.Most people would say Amy is important and needs to be around, even though most of these same people would still pick one of the male hedgehogs or Knuckles as their overall fave.
>>577783450Looks good.
>>577782984It's really sad, a lot of it was pretty cringe sure but there was also a lot of cool shit mixed that was neat to look at. Deviantart these days is littered with so much AI slop that lacks any passion behind it. There's entire galleries filled with sonic characters in the attic with trash bags or them eating at restaurants that all look the same with tiny minute differences. Give me green SSj4 sonic punching through neo colored robot eggman's stomach
>>577783330I don't care about fanart most fan content is ooc and it doesnt matter that it is but in official media, male writers wrote uwuver before her such as Ian and pontaff in TSR.incelpost ignoring where the actual problems started.
>>577783280>Sonic is not just GreenHill Zone from Sonic 2 or StardistSpeedway Bad Future.You got a lot of fucking nerve projecting all that on me while calling me Archiefag. Sonic has so many vibrant background worlds from just Genesis or Adventure games alone alone. Now who actually hates Sonic here, you or me?>also youre full of crap anyway. Frontiers is the one game that overly references and connects everything from the lore'memberberries ain't shit. What, I thought you hated Ian Flynn? Get this jap cock off your mouth you little prick.
>>577783014Evan did irreparable damage to Silver because she thinks Uwuver is cute and when people called her out she wrote an essay saying that she is going to keep doing it anyways
>Burgerkiss posted his Tails kino again
>>577783392>Though I do wonder why Sonic manga seems to get more creative leeway(both officially and from the fanbase) compared to the Western comics, especially after the 90s.part of it is probably that sonic didn't really exist before the 90s
>>577783996Ian did it before her, pontaff did it before her and none of them cared to fix it.besides Evan drew him more game accurate in her latest art for tailstube.
>Evan ruined Silver>Taps the SignIt was rigged from the start Silverfags, but of course you are too young to remember this
>>577784021I wish he would pick a male character other than Tails
>>577782594>now that you mention it I don't think I've ever seen the Japanese equivalent of early 2000s deviantart fanart.That's because it doesn't exist. Its a uniquely western phenomenon due to Sonic being a pop icon here. In general, Sonic had a huge impact on internet culture from basically the start.Japanesw fans find this stuff fascinating.I remember watching a video of a Japanese fan looking at fan games and they go based faced at hoe polished and sophisticated our fangames are.A bunch of them were saying they wished Sobic Omens was approved of by ST and sold retail.
Unleashed Remastered when? The new generation needs to learn what REAL boosting is.
>>577784195>>577783996I am not interested defending Evan anyway, you just ignore that male writers did it before her in official media becaause you care more about incelposting than the actual problem.
>>577784361>I remember watching a video of a Japanese fan looking at fan games and they go based faced at hoe polished and sophisticated our fangames are.interesting, where can i find that?
>>577783816I'm not incelposting. I never said Evan being a woman was the problem. I said her being an ultraliberal millennial is the problem.
I'm going to eat your face
>>5777842494chan be like
>>577784175My brain is like a FACTORY constantly creatingMaterial STITCH BY STICTH for decorationLyrics are FABRICS, beat is the LININGMy passion in rhyming is FASHION DESIGNING
>>577784495you said ''not a man's'' despite men also writing uwuver before evan did. Idk why people ignore Ian or Pontaff writing uwuver myself.
>>577784293Barry clip was hot too
>>577782606Yes. Sonic is cemented in pop culture. Even if the series died people would still talk about it and fans would still make content about it.And then there would be an inevitable revival of it.The worst the series can go is be reduced to mobileslop desu.>>577782726Mostly this, though I do think her being a woman affects how she writes Amy and Rouge and the girl characters in general.I guess tou can say its stereotypical that she focuses less on epic fights over character moments and more slice of life stuff.But I chalk Ian focusing on that more to him being a comicfag more than anything.
>>577783420That's nice Krack sweetie, but what about concrete facts and source?
>>577784541honey cute
>>577782792I remember that and you're right lmao. If anything, its the reverse. People keep trying to turn Amy into more of just another Sonic and to make her less girly and more about just fighting and looking dangerous.
Remember when Krack was gooning to AI porn
>>577785071Krack life updates general
>>577785071>>577785150Krack derangement syndrome
>>577784927I think it's because people just observe this ''degen'' place and mistake what's posted here as what's actually popular, female characters get more traction here cuz ppl are autistic gooners. but casuals genuinely don't care about jacking off to sonic characters
>>577784743>The worst the series can go is be reduced to mobileslop desu.Depending on who the dev is, that's not a terrible fate. If all of the mobile slop we got was like Dream Team, I'd survive. Like... provided it wasn't locked to Apple subscriptions again.
>>577784743Evan knows how to write Amy and Rouge but wants Silver to be an UWU cinnamon roll. Ian knows how to write Knuckles but he wants Amy to be the cool and level headed group mom who no longer loves Sonic
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>>577785468i still dont understand why Ian is so fucking against Amy still being in love with sonic.
Sonic doesn't wait for UN resolutions from the Chaos Council. He sees Robotnik fortifying South Island, correctly assesses that diplomacy is a stalling tactic, and acts: alone, fast, before the threat metastasizes into a fully operational Death Egg. This is preemption as first principle: the danger of inaction outweighs the risk of unilateral intervention. Sonic 2's plot is essentially a preventive strike on a WMD program before it goes live.
>>577785639NTA and somewhat related but can you name a good romance writer who is male?
>>577785639he still can't get over the fact that Sally and the rest of the Archie characters got memory holed. He also sees no value in a female character unless she's a kickbutt female
>>577785854He didn't write the Archie characters Ic anyway
>>577782902Yes actually. Why do you say it like youre worried about something?
>>577785785Hasbara bot...
>>577785854what a retard, i fucking hate the generations retcons
>>577785639>>577785854Besties....
>>577785854This is why Cosmo is better off in the vault
>>577783283I don't get how it doesn't. Are tou going off of impressions of Amy from newer stuff maybe?
>>577786265what? i just think both things dont fit in a single character, i wasnt talking about amy in specific
>>577783392>Not mad, just pointing out that writers making jokes with the Sonic cast isn't exclusive to US writers.Nobody said it was?It's just obviously drawn and made in side material that is clearly drawn and presented in a way where you arent meant to take it seriously.>Though I do wonder why Sonic manga seems to get more creative leeway(both officially and from the fanbase) compared to the Western comics, especially after the 90s.See the above.
>>577786151Don't self-reply
>>577784750Not your boogiewoman.>but what about concrete facts and source?What is this, a fucking trial? If you dont wanna take my word for it, don't. This is based off my experiences.
>>577786151At least Amy mentions marriage to Sonic in her dialogue boxes in the Generations remake. Frontiers erased her love for Sonic and so did the 35th anniversary version of the Welcome to the Wonderful World of Sonic book and her SOA website bio. You can thank the lore team for that
>>577786512not everyone that disagree with you is a samefag.
>>577785237Pretty much. The power of anonymity.
Uncomfortable truth is that every female character would be more popular as a male but all male characters would be doomed to obscurity if they were female.
>>577786635Don't self-reply
>>577786626unfortunate
>>577785485I love Shadow sliding his dog against Sonic's buns
>>577784021Why does the porn artist community treat tailsfags a million times better than Sonic team does?
I love her
>>577786738not everyone that disagree with you is a samefag.
>>577786889
>>577786898>>577786738>>577786635>>577786151>>577786512Is this a bot or something? What the fuck?
>>577786883They both want to fuck with the boy, but only one group does it figuratively.
>>577785468>Evan knows how to write Amy and Rouge but wants Silver to be an UWU cinnamon roll.She's clearly renegged on that and writes him more like his proper self already as is. You're more mad that she didn't do a public apology and repent like a sinner and promise to #do better. You're just as bad as the wokies.Typical american.>Ian knows how to write KnucklesKinda. He is very bias when writing the character. If it were up to him, Knuckles would just be Red punching Sonic who's personality is focused on making sure everyone knows he is better than Sonic, which not ideal.
>>577786689I suppose people also use him being sissified in ship art or other fangirl art as a reason but even in the more niche shipfag scenes(already bad argument) the femdom shit is what seperates it from other stuff as competition. there's a reason why sonaze is mostly waifufags but silvaze has popularity within a much wider audience and its not just because 06 is more well known. plus we have cute or cool girl shit already.
tikal cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuD99ZLFCyg
>>577785847>can you name a good romance writer who is malePlenty are. They just have to not come from comic and cartoon spaces specifically.
>>577786762>>577786626>>577786151>>577785854Fuck off with your lame shipfaggotry shit Sonamyfaggots.
>>577786984He hasnt updated the comic in 1.5 monthz
>>577786883Tails is a popular choice in porn because he's both a self insert and also appeals to femboyfags.
>>577785639It goes back to this >>577776393.In his mind, there is no point to Amy loving Sonic if she isn't gonna get with him. Even if that was never the point.
>>577787317well that somewhat of a skill issue of him, dude cant even understand the concept of unrequited love?
>>577786398>Nobody said it was?I was responding to this anon>>577778840 who asserted that only Archie and IDW(US publications) treat Shadow like a joke, which isn't true.>non-serious side materialI see your point, but stuff like Archie, IDW(originally), and Boom were all non-serious side media, and all of those still get lots of notes from Sega to maintain character which doesn't seem to be as much of a case for a lot of the Sonic manga.
>>577787317the comic cartoon fnadom base in west sees everything as a conflict to be resolved rather than existing as a support to the narrative.
>>577786762Makes me worry about how they'll mess with the next mainline game and the Movie 4 tie-in game
>>577787459yeah, sonic just blocking amy from hugging him in generations was funny as hell, now its lost.
>>577787192I believe you, but can you name a Western romance writer who is male that you feel would do Amy's romance justice?
Keep melting up besties!
>>577785785>applying a contemporary politically partisan american lens to media that isn't written with it in mind.Sonic 2 happens because Eggman follows Sonic to Westside Island. Sonic went there on vacation. He just wanted to hang out at the island for fun and chill at the beach and listen to his rock music.Then he met Tails etc. Eggman started the Death Egg project afterwards as he was looking for chaos emeralds. Sonic reacts to this because he finds Eggy causing trouble.Sonic is reactive.
>>577787050Ok, I'll give Evan credit for starting to portray Silver correctly after a long time to of writing him incorrectly. Can Ian please do the same with Amy?
>>577786382Why not? Its comon for tween girls to get into that kind of thing. Miyu Yamazaki is a good example.
>>577787050If i'm not wrong we didn't see her recent silver writing until liek the silver blaze issues upcoming, the recenter ones were ian
>>577787813personal taste i suppose?
>>577787295Shouldn’t being a self insert also make him a good playable character/protagonist in a game?
So in spite being dead and to never come back ever, Sally really won.
>>577787909maybe but he's a self insert for nerdy loser types rather than a cool guy the way casuals like, this is an aurafarmer franchise.
>>577786626>At least Amy mentions marriage to Sonic in her dialogue boxes in the Generations remake.Obvious oversight.>Frontiers erased her love for Sonic and so did the 35th anniversary version of the Welcome to the Wonderful World of Sonic book and her SOA website bio. You can thank the lore team for thatI think more than anything, the issue i have with it is more it basically neutered there character dynamics and any sort of arc they were supposed to have. Knuckles and Tails have their character dynamics on clear display as well as how the characters dybamic evolves.Sonic and Amy do not.
>>577787979Thanks, Ian.
>>577787217See you in 7 months!
>>577786704>Uncomfortable truth is that every female character would be more popular as a maleI wouldn't go that far either. If Amy was a guy, he wpuld be overlooked hard. Rpuge would be seen as a glup shitto. Same with Cream.If anything, being girls does a lot for them to maintain any level of relevance.Boy characters get more popular, but its still a crowded market. Not ever boy is automatically more popular than every girl by virtue of being a boy.Vector, Charmy and Espio sure as shit arent and Espio is a frigging ninja cameleon.
I just wish Amy were written in character in literally any of her appearances since CD. She should have hearts in her eyes at all times and, if she isn't hugging Sonic, she should be moving toward Sonic for the purpose of permanent hugging.
>>577788150Yep. Ian really fucking won. He got to write Sonally, enjoy Archie and get employed himself in SEGA. All while the Sonamytards seethe and keep hunging themselves from sidelines.This cannot get anymore based than that.
>>577786883They don't You're just a self-inserting Tailscel.>>577787295Its actually just because of furries. Tails is the only relevant character that actually looks like the animal he is based on. And Foxes in general are prized by furry communities.
>>577788073What about the newest Tailstube? She was disheartened to find out that Sonic wasn't going to be there. The lore team oversaw that too. Not just the Generations remake.Morio Kishimoto fixed Ian's garbage script but only when it got translated into Japanese, sadly. Notice how Ian the lore team have a bias against Amy's love for Sonic and don't have a bias against any other character. I wonder why
>>577788382Uh oh now you're pushing besties to spam gore...
>>577749426You guys never told me the pedophilic pick-me who got owned by Ken Penders was this based!
>>577788038>aurafarmer franchiseThe damage shadow has done cannot be overstated
>>577788505True but things like his cutesy appearence and his high voice makes appealing to femboyfags in this franchise even if it's mostly caused by him being a kid. femboyfagging is very big now.
>Sega forces Sonally to be decanonized in Archie>Get hired for the mainline games>Decanonized SonamyThis is a power move
>>577749426Why did Miia admit to masturbating while playing children's games? You know, the same thing her grifter white knights accuse Ana Valens of?
>>577788354If amy was a guy fujos would love him.
>>577788505>”They don’t”>explains how they doKeep your hateboner in your pants please
>>577788813>implying Sonamy was ever canonizedDon't fall for the usual besties' agenda off their Discord raids here.
>>577788904WHO THR FUCK IS MIAYOU GUYS ARE JUST MAKING PEOPLE UP NOWMIACAPTAIN DAYBREAKTOOTIESCHIZONONE OF THESE PEOPLE EXIST
My Nameis Captain Retardist
>>577787437He also just as a comicbook nerd mindset to media writing. In his mind it "looks bad" for Amy to be in love with a person who isn't gonna commit to her.Its a very calvanist way of looking at the world where everything is an "investment" rather than a story. In his mind, Amy is "putting in work" for the "payout" of being in a relationship with Sonic. Not just being the power of love girl who makes it her superpower and follows her heart and encourages everyone to do the same... So to him, she is "wasting effort". He also grew up with american cartoons so to him he likely sees it as Amy "encouraging young girls to chase after peoplr who aren't interested in them". Because again, to him its about the relationship, not the love.Amy chases Sonic because she wants to. She is not chasing love. She is in love. She chases Sonic for because the love she feels gives her the energy to do so and doing so makes her happy and brings excitement and adventure to her life.She is escaping the normal, not trying to win her way into social acceptance.
>>577789091https://x.com/awooisms/status/2088720091735290167#mA thread on little miss "I don't wanna be known for drama, now let me double down on transphobia while I beg Sega to take me back!"CaptainDaybreak is the grifter boogeyman
>>577788813>Sonamy>ever "canonized"Never happened, and sonamybesties don't want you to know but the day it ever happens (lol lmao), then Sonic stops being truly Sonic
THEY CONTROL THE HORIZONTAL AND THE VERTICAL
>>577787438>that only Archie and IDW(US publications) treat Shadow like a joke, which isn't true.But Archie and IDW aren't joke comics.Most of the time Shadow is treated like a joke in them, its not even intentional as part of a gag. Its just making him the fall guy for plot or to upset another character.
>>577789285so he gutted her character because of that? fucking hell, amy became a hero because of her love and going after sonic
>>577788505They have no trouble making Sonic/Shadow/Knuckles/etc work when they want to
Sonic reciprocating romance or sexual anything is ooc even if it's Amy.
>>577789428Shut the fuck up already and just admit you're a bitter shadowtard mad your hero jobs on every single instance in canon
DEMI GODS
DBZ inspired franchise
>>577789680Archie was so shitty
>>577789370>>577789680Technically they're only second dimensional since they control just tow lines of space, which is an entire dimension under us.
>>577787441Yes and it all goes back to platonics and the western propensity to treat things as a search for God, mixed with american Calvanist ideas around work and problem solving.Mix that with Western writing conventions haphazardly borrowed and pushed in Hollywood and bam.
>>577789818... is what would I say if I were a bestie!
>>577788662Do you have something Sonic related to post?
>>577787597>Western romance writer who is male that you feel would do Amy's romance justice?>WesternWelp.
>>577789303Transphobia is normal and good and Miia is based for it. Fuck off and dilate weird groomer.
>>577788662>implying Sonic would ever support ICE or modern, fascist AmericalolHe'd be in Trump's office in seconds.
>>577789892We get it, you don't care about Sonic's personality and you hate Amy
>>577789860Stop incessantly replying yourself and talk about Sonic the Hedgehog you polnigger
>>577789308Sonic stops being Sonic if he stops running fast, not if he gets with Amy
>>577788662>>577789303>>577788904i like mia and krack because their presence enrages troons. kys you don't like sonic and ywnbaw.
>>577789428>Its just making him the fall guy for plot or to upset another character.Just like the games, yes
>>577787761Ian does do better with her. He wrote her Okay in the issue where Amy visits Knuckles on Angel Island after Eggperial City.But in general his attitude towards writing her feels less like trying to write her well and more like he is just scared of makong mistakes, so he writes her very safe.Which to be fair, he has always been guilty of even back in Archie.My fave writing of his for Amy is the Megadrive comics even if they aren't exactly in-character. But I feel its also carried a lot by the art desu.
Ian never hated Sonamy. Sonallyfags accused him of being a Sonamy shill so he backed down with Sonamy for a while. This happens with every ship because shipfags make him uncomfortable. He literally complained about Sonally fans in his Goku video for attacking him for something that was out of his hands. Sonic is not a romantic character. This isn't even a Sonallyfag problem, all shippers are retarded the same way.
>>577788929No they wouldn't. You misunderstand fujos hard. They like Sonic and Shadow because they are seen as the most valued items on the menu.Not just because they are boys.
>>577788963>explains how they doHow? Because they make him have sex? Dude go jerk off or something lol.
>>577790523No i mean if male amy was actually gay the same way, people would probably cope about him being tsundere instead of saying he hates her. but then again edgy rival buttfucking defeats any other dynamic in their eyes.
How can Sonic be cool again? It was easier in the 90s because pop culture was more unified. Everything exists in its own bubble now. Should Sonic just stop trying to be cool?
>>577790520I'd like to see that video.
>>577789919It's in the manual, sis. Facts don't care about your feelings :D>>577789995>>577790038Aw the little cissy is trying to be edgy. I hope Krack and Miia see this.>>577790227So sayeth the crowd scared of picrel, which is canon in every medium <3
>>577790784he should just murder eggmanwith a desert eagle revolver
weak bait
>>577789428That anon is disingenuously pretending he doesn't know the difference between a gag comic and a narrative-driven comic.
>>577790784i don't know why this is a problem when for the last 25 years sa2 remained the coolest version of sonic in the eyes of every generation except classicfags in particularjust do that and don't stop. even the fucking movies pander to sa2 because it's seen as the absolute peak
>>577790834If this is bait to make me like Krack it's working
>>577790936Stop self-replying
>>577790784Give him cool battle scars to scare the libs, preferably the ones on the left>>577790914>>577790962Miia and Krack won't fuck you, you're far too old for them.
>>577789462Yes but in fandom spaces, all he sees is people makong fun of her because she isn't gonna be with Sonic and people calling Amy fans delulu for it. So he validates the bad fandom behavior instead of writing the character in a way that shows why Amy being like that is good actually (something Evan did in CR&BB)For Ian, the clip from Gens where Sonic holds Amy back from hugging him is bad because people online clip it and use it to ship on Amy out of context.Normal people dont think of it that way because they arent terminally online.
>>577790523Sonadow is just a porn ship. Don’t let the slow burn art and fan fictions trick you. They’re all just a specious cover for what lies underneath
>>577788382Ian isn't employed by Sega, though.
idk why anyone would want to date sonic when the only versions of him that would ever try to put effort into a relationship were murdered by segaif you ever had a girlfriend or boyfriend you would know how horrible "doesn't compromise" is for a relationship. "reluctant to compromise" is already a red flag. Imagine trying to schedule a family dinner and Sonic doesn't agree to show up because he "didn't feel like it". That's fucking retarded. Sonic is a cunt.
>577791006>Reddit filenameTrannies disgust me.
>>577790914Anon the ENTIRE thread is bait. All the posts here right now feel botted or raiding from weak minded shipfags or politics grifters simping for a fujo woman.
>>577789665Shadow isn't even in my top 5 Sonic characters dude. You're just being a fanboy. All I did was explain the difference.
>>577789993Ya'll got ah problem wit Westerns?
Stay mad, tourist. Sonic is canonically trans and tribbing boypussies with Shadow and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>577790520>Ian never hated SonamyThen why is he trying to destroy it.
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>>577789754>ZtardGet out.Sonic was inspired by DB in general, among other things.
>>577791007Because that Generations cutscene was bad. It made Sonic act like a jerk to Amy
>>577791250Since when is he trying to destroy it? He still wrote Amy loving SonicSonic isn't supposed to reciprocate romance from any girl. That is the mischaracterization you fuckers complain about Archie and its gone now. Sonic isn't going to call Amy his fucking girlfriend because he doesn't want a girlfriend you retarded shippingfucks
>>577790106None of that was polshit, you undergrad.Also I wasnt replying to myself.
>>577790246>Just like the games, yesWhich game did this ever happen?
>>577791413Just wait 7 months and things are going to be different between Sonic and Amy
>>577791413>Since when is he trying to destroy it?Why are you pretending to be completely clueless about the discourse around Ian when it comes to Sonamy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE8o9LFercA
>>577790520Correct.My criticisms of Ian in regards to Amy are not really ship related. It's more that I feel he misunderstands Amy's character in general. I dont even think he would disagree that he doesnt get her all that much.In his mind, chatacaters loving another character is not a trait of the character. Its "ship set up" or a "trope" that exists outside of the character and controls them like a spectrum or something.Amy has to be about how she imposes herself on the world around her. And how well she can beat up bad guys while justifying it with morals.
>>577791820garbage
Never forget how Ian made Sally wait for Sonic for 25 years and then goes on about how Amt is being shackled by Sonic.
>>577790707>No i mean if male amy was actually gay the same way, people would probably cope about him being tsundere instead of saying he hates herOnly if Amy was portrayed as a dominat Cassandra type, which she isn't and thus he wouldn't be.He'd be like Bolin alin Korra at best really. Who does have fangirls but hardly is super celebrated because he isn't top of the food chain.
>>577790784>How can Sonic be cool again?He already is. He never really stopped being cool. The idea he did was a psyop by millennials. >but the Pontaff and Boom eraNot the real Sonic.The actual Sonic never stopped being cool.>It was easier in the 90s because pop culture was more unified.No it wasn't lol. You were just in a bubble.
>>577792020To be fair to Ian, imagine you grew up with an OTP and as soon as you get signed on to write for the comics you read that the previous writer just up and decided she likes Shadow nowDo you think Sonamyfags would handle that well? If anything you're lucky that Ian was willing to decanonize Light Mobius as a whole instead of just making Mobius prime Shadow evil
>>577790784Bring back the tone of the 2000s games and the music genres that accompanied them
>>577792192Sonic stops being cool every time he appears in an IDW issue.
>>577792020Ken Penders's version of that story has Shadow acting like an obnoxiously good husband to rub salt in the wound. 25YL was never good and was never going to be good.
>>577790914I love her
>>577789428>upset*upsell >>577791193
>>577791193The lack of self awareness and peecieved universality of their habits and worldviews as inherently the only valid and objectively forward thinking and correct way of doing things specifically.Outside of that, the west has its charm.Just wish the west would stop wrecking everything i care about.
>>577792619shut up bestie
In case we're forgetting. According to the Shadow files this is the chain of events that happens if Penders never left ArchieStory A>events following the snap>Eggman kills Elias>The Acorn family snaps and turns against the freedom fighters>Sally already antagonistic to Sonic>Hope Kintobor is a genetic copy of Maria>Sonic tries to stop the acorns from going to war against Eggman because innocent people will be hurt>Sally's father attempts to have Sonic executed for treason>Shadow joins the Acorn family, but he hasn't become evil and his only interest is protecting Sally >Sonic and the freedom fighters vs Shadow and the acorn legion Story B>King Sonic wakes up in a changed timeline>Sally and Shadow are happily married and have 3 kids, the littlest child is named Maria >Sally and Shadow get medical attention for Sonic>Sonic sees the world and decides it would be wrong to change things now, he has to accept that this is how it is>Shadow has completely mellowed out until he's coddling and sweetBe honest, as crazy as this is you're better off with Ian.
>>577791410It was just him holding her back because she was smothering him while he was trying to talk to Tails.But its meaning has been warped by terminally online people who only ever see it used as a way to shit on Amy and claim he hates her.Its the database at work.
you've changed /sthg/
>>577792207I dont think being an Amy/Sonamyfag could have gone any worse at the time frankly. Sonallyfags were already autistically trashing the character over the slap as is. If it could get worse, I cant even imagine it.
>>577792775>Be honest, as crazy as this is you're better off with Ian.NO, Kyle.
>>577793016>>577793016>>577793016>>577793016
>>577792775Nah, I would want Story A.
>>577792986Everyone complains about Archie getting Sonic's personality wrong for romance. You don't fix that by doing the same thing to Shadow. Ian's Archie Shadow is better than Penders's
>>577792327Eh, most of the time but not always. IDW has a fetish for trying to make people hate him for no reason though.>>577792721Not your boogieship
>>577793085I prefer Penders' Shadow because we wouldn't have retards wanting it to be canon like Ian's version.
>>577793313I do want his version to be canon though
>>577793521That literally means you don't like Shadow.
>>577793782I don't, he's a shit character that was done better in archie
>>577787220I actually checked a few hours ago and was very disappointed.
>>577778048That WAS the get dummy
