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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9534 - EDGY KINO!!!!! edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #16 - Between 2 Hedgehogs
https://youtu.be/-UDOIdn2lHs
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>577749426
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SONAMYFREE THREAD FUCK OFF SONAMYFAGGOTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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I'm a Sonally. You can't tell me what to ship. You're not the boss of me.
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why did penders suddenly decide to take the shadallypill
has he been coming here
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>>577793016
where blaze
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>>577793230
THEORY: Scribbles is Ken Penders's son and had access to old Sega documents causing him to appear to be cognizant of things that weren't release yet
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>>577793230
Ken basically exhausted everything he could do with Knuckles. Shadow was the next best thing.
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>>577793085
The difference, and the thing you dont seem to understand, is that Ian presented his stuff as canon compliant. Penders didn't. You can't mistake any of Penders' stuff for game canon so no one would care and just treat it as silly Archie nonsense the way people do Fleetway.

But Ian presented himself as "#ARealFan" who "actually gets the characters and makes the comic more like the games".
So Penders direction would be preferable because its so blatantly off-brand no one would take it seriously other than Archoefags to begin with.
Today, most Archoefags are rebootfags who worship Ian's stuff.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQxsRslFzpk
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>>577793109
Here's the two kissing, just for you
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>>577793393
why are the dic cartoons so consistent about sonic's family being arabs? it's in both underground and aosth. Aleena is even an arab name and Aleena's ancestors are all shown to be egyptian or arabian parodies
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>>577793393
I hate it
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>>577793480
>The difference, and the thing you dont seem to understand, is that Ian presented his stuff as canon compliant. Penders didn't. You can't mistake any of Penders' stuff for game canon so no one would care and just treat it as silly Archie nonsense the way people do Fleetway.
How is that worse? Ian's Archie was closer to the games. Yeah you can argue about how he still did Sonally and that was OOC but Shadow being a doting husband is even more OOC than that. Penders was basically ripping apart everything about Archie and the games for his own autism
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>>577793558
I'd save them if Amy had back spines.
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if you actually read archie none of what penders wrote is surprising and ian wasn't as obsessed with shipping as you make him out to be.
penders!sally was getting sick of Sonic's free spirited stuff and penders!shadow was a mission oriented hero.
Ian didn't try to put sonic and sally together again for almost 8 years. When SOJ told him to stop he wrote it off no questions asked. Does that sound like an obsessive shipper to you?
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>>577793709
>Ian's Archie was closer to the games.
A bastardization of them that distorts perception of the canon.
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>>577793913
Because Ian tries to act like he's above shipping when he's not. He larps as some down-to-earth wholesome chungus when he isn't.
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>>577793709
>How is that worse? Ian's Archie was closer to the games
That's just it. It wasn't. It was his fanfic version of Archie that pretends game elements exist and have always existed within the context of and in relation to Archie.
He only gets away woth it by doing reference shit and superficially takong game elements and appropriating them into Archie without care or understanding for why those elements exist in the games.

And now we are stuck with people being confused about basic chit about the games and how things worked or who the characters are because people who dont know better wander in and got misled.
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Douge
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>>577793709
Imagine if Dragon Ball Evolution actually resembled Dragon Ball visually so you had a bunch of DBE fags insisting that it's actually good because it "Makes Goku relatable" and "finally feels like an actual teenager"
That's what Ian did. Fuck off. Archie was shit. People who like Archie hate Sonic.
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>>577792887
>you've changed /sthg/
...My God. Yes, I have...
With my own two hands, I completely changed /sthg/. First it was a post, then it was several, then the (You)s, oh the (You)s, it sent in dopamine signals that up meatpuppets are all slaves to! Yes. Then it became a game. How many (You)s canst thou accumulate in a thread? I became a silent star, but no longer. I am the greatest /sthg/ poster of all time, and you don't even know it. I made you laugh. I made you cry. I made you sigh. I have ascended. I have CHANGED /sthg/! Yes, it was I who did that! Every triumph? Every tear? All me. Love me. Fear me. Worship me. I am (You)r God. And (You) will all know my name when the light escapes (Your) eyes and (You) turn to darkness...
>you've changed, /sthg/
oh lol
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>>577793718
>backspinefag
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>>577794041
Bot bestie post.
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When Ken writes a character OOC.
"What strange portrayal, but that's Archie for ya."

When Ian writes a character OOC.
>"Wow, this is just like the original, no, BETTER than the original! Why aren't the characters in the games and other media written like this?!"
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>>577794279
>No argument
Concession accepted. Thank you.
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>>577794147
>Imagine if Dragon Ball Evolution actually resembled Dragon Ball visually so you had a bunch of DBE fags insisting that it's actually good because it "Makes Goku relatable" and "finally feels like an actual teenager"
That's literally what happened holy shit lmao!!!! Insanity!
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>>577794041
>Because Ian tries to act like he's above shipping when he's not.
But he is. When he was told to bury his favorite paring he did it and even agreed that it isn't consistent with Sonic's character. Whenever Ian brings up the mandates he explains that Sega has the right to decide what Sonic doesn't do. Sega is the one who forced him to make Shadow run into a group of zombies.
>>577794287
You're complaining about Ian being a competent writer?
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>>577794472
Ian isn't going to get you hired for defending him like this. He doesn't even know you exist.
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>>577794472
>Sega is the one who forced him to make Shadow run into a group of zombies.
Cope and wrong by his own words.
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>sthg would rather have penders completely nuke all of the characterizations over ian getting them slightly off
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>>577794437
And yet this is how you argue >>577794615.
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>>577794193
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>>577794472
>You're complaining about Ian being a competent writer?
That's not really a sign of competence. It just means he is good at fanservice. Because he was a fanfic writer.

Good writing makes her think rather than just make you clap ans validate your existing beliefs.
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>>577794660
>getting them slightly off
>slightly off
Lol.
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I would like the characters to act like the characters. I'd prefer fans actually liked the characters themselves instead of projecting their own traits onto them. I wish more people respected and learned the original intent. I think Sonic Team understands their own creations better than anyone, and they should lean harder into cool hype and aura moments with badass buttrock music. I'd appreciate if IDW and Sega of America staff were honest about their intentions and acted professionally, and I don't want real-world sociopolitical drama running the franchise.

On a scale from 1 to 10 how controversial is this?
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>>577794472
>Whenever Ian brings up the mandates he explains that Sega has the right to decide what Sonic doesn't do
And by saying this he paints a picture of "i would like to but Sega won't let me" which is why people have this mandates autism attitude towards the series now to begin with.
He doesn't say "that wouldn't make sense for him". He says "Sega has decided this so its the way it is".
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>>577794767
He's not even good at fanservice because his references are hamfisted as fuck. It's just that he grew a parasocial fanbase because he promoted himself as a Sonic fan and actively interacted with said fanbase. They think Ian is their friend.
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why didn't they put rouge the bat in the movies? does sega hate boobs?
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>flynnfags still exist in 2026
how is this possible
he wrote every character ooc, even the western ones. they are all shit.
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>>577794660
>slightly
Lol
But to humor this. Yes unironically.
I would rather Penders have completed his off-brand vision than have Ian popularize fanon depiction and fanon-isms from the internet in official material.
I really mean that.
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>>577794852
This is controversial because people working on the franchise from SoA and IDW know how Sonic and the cast are supposed to act but fight against it.
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Wanna pick up SA2 on steam since it's a couple of bucks, does it run right out of the box or do I gotta mod that shit?
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>>577794852
Tell your simps to stop spamming shit here everyday with your beliefs like the parrots they are
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>>577794960
Reminder that every time something he writes is well received the mandates suddenly stop existing as if this success was all him.
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>>577795137
How do you know there wouldn't be people having the same arguments?
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>>577793568
Idk, If I had to guess, Disney's Aladdin was popular in the 90s so I guess they thought that Arab and Egyptian kings were in.
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>>577794615
>>577794619
>>577794767
>>577794960
>>577795275
holy fucking samefagging
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Game Shadow and Archie Shadow act like completely different characters to the point Archie Shadow wouldn't even respond the same way if he was put through the same exact situations as Game Shadow.
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>>577795008
You're right. If he was particularly good at the fanservice, it would still be couched in stories that did ehat i said above anyway.

But it was just kind of that period where the Internet was blowing up and appearing knowledgeable and genre savvy and feeling rewarded for having wiki knowledge of things was getting popular since people from the internet were in general getting into the industry.
Things like Newgrounds animators and Abridged Parodies were kind of the gold standard online for "good content". And fanfiction as well did many of the same things.

It was an easy way to make you seem like you know your stuff, and so by mere comparison to Archie, people accepted Ian's stuff without a second thought.


>It's just that he grew a parasocial fanbase because he promoted himself as a Sonic fan and actively interacted with said fanbase. They think Ian is their friend.
Yeah, to them, he is "one of us" and "represents us".
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>>577795508
Archie Shadow is just what Shadow is before Boom
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>>577795402
Is this your go-to when you have no way to refute anything?
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>>577794852
Answer your 99's DMs from your bf
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>>577794852
i wanna spank maria
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>>577795268
Which of my beliefs am I currently mind-controlling people into posting? I'll flip the brainwashing beam off for you, but I'll need the specifics. Wouldn't want to accidentally deprogram the correct beliefs and leave the wrong ones running, you know how it is.
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>>577795402
I'm getting tired of Archiefags acting like there isn't an obvious difference between the way the characters are in the games and Archie. You can't point to any game for an Archie personality, Archie just ruined them all. You can blame Sonamyfags but Archie is just completely OOC either way and that is because of the romance shit which Sonamy fans are right to shit on because now we have retards who can't tell the difference between different versions of a cartoon character (Archiefags)
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>>577795646
Hitting people is bad though, mostly
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>>577795809
Okay bestie
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is there a single character archie got right?
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>>577796046
Literally, no.
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>>577794852
Why are you retweeting halflid OOC shit?
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>>577795917
I never said I was a good person. I just said I wanted to smack her panties-covered rear with my hand, raise my arm in a large swing, and spread my fingers to make it loud and painful.
And pretend it's an experience.
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>>577796046
They couldn't even get Tikal right
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>>577796046
None. Not even their own, unironically.
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>>577796196
>>577796125
>>577796205
holy fucking samefagging 2
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>>577794852
what do you think of my ship krack? be honest.
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>>577794852
It shouldn't be controversial and yet it somehow is probably an 8/10.
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I'm legit trying to think of what game character at the very least Archie got right.
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>>577796196
what did they get wrong with her?
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>>577796318
I would never do that.
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I'm legit wondering if there's a single real human being here or two and not a bot replying itself every cooldown after submitting post.
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>>577796318
>>577796537
>He still can't refute a single point everyone's posts make.
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>>577795248
Its pretty much fine but mods can help with some things. Apparently the rail tilting is borked making it over sensitive for example and some cutscenes have story info borked due to texture errors.
Also there's the general audio level nonsense of course.
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>>577796481
You're a jap purist? Awful.
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>>577795275
Yes I really hate it.
When somrthing is good, it's Ian our savior being a GOAT.
When its something people have an issue with, it's all EVIL SEGA and Iizuka makong things le bad. Its annoying.
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>>577795291
Wdym exactly? Arguments about what?
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who set off the sonamyfags
was it you
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77796625
I'm not the other guy you absolute bot, and fix your shitty spic english.
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>>577794852
Not controversial at all
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New Surge kino inbound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vNlES3VcH4
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>>577797140
>reboot Sally with a beard
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>>577796537
kinda weird this general has 0 ai slop posts
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>>577795597
The fact you think this is literally proving out point. It's literally proof of the problem.
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>>577797140
>SatAM characters
I'll pass.
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>>577797140
I'm really getting sick of people trying to make Surge into one of Sonic's shitty friends. LET HER BE A BAD GUY PLEASE
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>>577797132
>>577796409
>>577795152
Fuck off Krack
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>>577794852
why do you hate shadouge even though it's the superior shadow ship?
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>>577796810
They asked a simple question and I answered tersely and objectively.
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>>577793016
Totono x Sonic
Shinichi - Sonic
Miyuki- Amy
Aoi - Blaze???
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>>577795248
My unpopular opinion is that it doesn't really need any mods. It's fine. Install it and have fun. I played a completely unmodded version to 100% a few months ago. Also if you install the mod that keeps them from talking over each other, you have no soul.
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>>577797354
She's a friend and a hero according to Evan.
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for some reason whenever i see satam characters i just know i'm going to get an annoying blabbermouth sonic who won't shut the fuck up about chillidogs and trying to catch girls. a fucking nerd's idea of a rockstar instead of the character who is in the actual games
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>>577797398
this bitch cannot still be posting here
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>>577797545
You were answering to a shitstirring west vs east shitposter, you know.
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>>577797398
Not Krack but she’s right
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>>577797354
Surge is a hero
Kit isn't
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>>577797637
She was here this morning, but her posts are usually not like those so I doubt she's here now.
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>>577796046
Metal Sonic i guess?
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>>577797140
>why is eggman acting like satam robotn-ohhh
Great animation
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>>577797628
okay bestie
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>>577796537
Im real lol. You're coping.
>stfu krack
Not your boogeyman.
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>>577797958
Archiefags really think you need to be a sonamyfag to think archie is ooc
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>>577798052
Yes bestie
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>>577797553
Some of those were on purpose and exist in the japanese version but people "fix" it and make the scenes worse. Pissed me off.
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Okay. Finished Superstars main game (missing one emerald, haven't done the newly unlocked story). It's good. Apparently it launched at a full $60 which is just... wow. lol. Not that good. Not sure how it handles in multiplayer and I will never find out, but the single player parts are surprisingly decent. Still think most of the bosses suck though.

Also Trip cute.
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>>577798268
that's more a reflection of the state of this franchise. all we have is a fortnite collab.
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Archie is ooc but I still like it fuck you
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>>577798504
atleast you're honest about it
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>>577797596
>>577797719
She might still see her as a villain?
https://www.tumblr.com/spiritsonic/807735972651565056/hello-hope-youre-well-i-wanted-to-ask-sort-of-a
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>>577798559
And you don't have to samefag incessantly all the same.
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Sonic fucks this
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>>577797140
>Hair down Surge
Everytime.
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>>577798269
Glad you liked it! Also agreed!
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>>577798504
No one said you can't like it lol.
But Archiefags have this weird canon imperialist attitude towards the series and its weird and annoying.
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If I see Surge with overly feminine features I just assume the creator is a Sonurgefaggot
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>>577798338
We’ll go back to the regular posting rate when the Movie 4 trailer comes out
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>Hope was supposed to just be Maria 2
Penders has actual brain damage holy shit.
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>>577798185
Yeah, there's a lot that was intentionally changed and it gets fucked with. There's also no singular mod that changes everything, so there are a lot of overlapping mods that can conflict with each other or produce their own bugs. It's kind of a mess and I generally find it not worth dealing with.
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>>577799379
Explain why this is bad like I'm 5 please
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>>577799243
eh, movies dont really keep generals alive. sure there will be a buzz in activity for a few days but thats it
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>>577799379
That wasn't obvious?
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If Sega had a brain, they would make Terios cannon and reveal that he's Shadows "Father". Cause Gerald cloned him and spliced his blood with Black Doom to create Shadow.
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>>577799471
it nukes hope's character and rapes the organic relationship she had with shadow, it makes so she only likes shadow because she is Maria 2
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>>577798834
She's just hang out in her room, so yeah she has her hair down because she's relaxed. Just like in the comics.
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>>577799542
I think he means that in the Shadow files Hope is an experiment made by GUN specifically to be Maria 2
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>>577799475
It’s the specific content of Movie 4 that’s going to send this general crazy. I think you know what I’m talking about
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>>577795248
The only mods you want are Dreamcast restoration mods, which is a lot more mature for SA1 than it is for SA2. Anything that foes beyond this scope, don't touch.
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Take the Sonally pill
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>>577799912
I hate all Sonic ships, sorry
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>>577799543
i prefer proto blaze desu, she looks cool as fuck
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>>577799912
we've moved on
to Sonurg
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>>577799912
Would you classify Sally as a tomboy?
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>>577799851
>>577799851
mod the chao garden too, at least a bit, some stuff on it is flat out broken like the pathing and some stuff you cant get without hacking/modding like jewel chao iirc
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>>577799678
>>577799770
It was gonna happen since Penders had Colin call her his stepdaughter, which means he might've knew, but tell Hope her true origins.
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>>577800010
Unlike Terios, Proto Blaze would work better as an hyper form for Blaze rather than it's own character. So i'm sticking with Terios.
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>>577800063
not really, but i suppose she is close enough
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>>577799912
Most of these pairings just feel like the guy self inserting in Sonic rather than trying to explore what his dynamic would be with any of these girls since realistically it would just stop dead the second they learn he is impossible to tie down. You should stay having fun with it though
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>>577800016
no one here ships that except duofag
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Would you?
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>>577800141
>some stuff you cant get without hacking/modding like jewel chao iirc
There's also a bug where the save file never randomizes which shop eggs you get, so it's always the same set.
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>>577797140
>SONIC calling Surge Kit's sister
I knew it. The animator is a fucking Sonurgefag trying to force Surge to be a fucking tsundere. I am so sick of this shit. Stop it already.
This is just "what if Satam was about Sonurge". Fucking shippertards.
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>only one artist does a decent amount of proto blaze art
fuck me
>>577800237
>Proto Blaze would work better as an hyper form for Blaze rather than it's own character.
true, i miss hyper forms, i hate the retcons sega did.
And idk, terios is almost too edgy imo but i guess it could work
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>>577799794
there will be no sonamy. sonic is not going to get romantic with amy.

amy is going to be a girl boss like peach who shows almost no interest in sonic romantically. adventure era amy is dead. she's a strong woman that dont need no hedgehog.
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>>577800343
Without a shred of hesitation and as many times as she'd let me.
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>>577800343
yes? only a fag wouldnt
>>577800447
>The animator is a fucking Sonurgefag trying to force Surge to be a fucking tsundere.
anon, surge is a tsundere, she reminds me a lot of Asuka, a lot of mental problems and a heavy TSUNdere.
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>>577797140
Maybe I'm just autistic. I always imagine Kit sounding like a little boy but here he sounds like an adult man. When he started speaking I was surprised
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>>577800682
he's supposed to be a boy, not sure why they choose that VA, i think he is only a bit older than tails?
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>>577797140
>Darkcloud
No. he sounds too old for him. Not boyish enough.

>>577800447
>Sonic calling Surge Kit's sister
My main problem whenever I keep seeing this is how objective everyone makes it seem rather than leaving it ambiguous or making it clear as their interpretation.
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>>577800447
>getting this mad over fan works
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>>577797140
>Sonic being a freedom fighter
>Sonic asking for help
>Sonic asking for help from Surge
>Sonic crying
>Surge trying to have friendly banter with Sonic
>Kit being openly aggressive to Surge
>Forcing "Siblings" into the dialogue between Kit and Surge
>Sonic trying to be sappy with Surge
>Sally and Bunnie barely in and 99% of the video is Sonic and Surge having a fucking marital dispute

I hate how Sonurgefags have infected my favorite characters. If you're going to do this freedom fighter trash just go with Sonally and leave Surge out of it.
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>>577800545
The signs are pointing towards Sonic and Amy being romantic with each other in Movie 4
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>>577801372
Such as?
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>>577801359
It's a weird SatAM/IDW hybrid where Sonic also acts like his Prime counterpart.
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La creatura
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>>577801525
if someone makes Sonic a freedom fighter you automatically know they aren't going to write him accurately. The least they could do is write him like Satam instead of fucking Prime.
This whole trash is everyone, even Sally making quips about how Sonic ruined things like it's funny. This isn't how Sonic and Surge treat each other at all. I'm so tired of tsundereshit
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:D
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>>577801694
>This whole trash is everyone, even Sally making quips about how Sonic ruined things like it's funny.
Sally was literally introduced criticizing Sonic for being playful come on now
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>>577801854
>>577801616
cute
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Sallybros you guys are going to have to understand that nobody here actually watched Satam because it's a shitty old show so no one cares about her characterization ok
Violet I can literally tell when its you
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Sonurge is so good bros...
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>>577802081
He's the cutest!
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IDW is ruining this series.
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>>577802149
i like a lot of the sonic ships, being it amy, sally, blaze or surge, they are all good, my personal favorite is probably blaze tho, but surge is nice even more considering the whole enemy stuff
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>>577802249
Oh. Close. But it's actually Sonic Team ruining it. IDW is neutral. Paramount is saving Sonic.
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>>577802265
are you a harem shipper?
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>>577802167
fluffy
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>>577802149
Someone said that the new Spidey movie made them think of Sonamy but it was more like Sonurge to me
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>>577802393
He's also the fluffiest
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>>577802368
not really, i just mean i dont mind who sonic ends up with, a harem is a nice choice too if u write it right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGHhsxOjVwk
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>>577802396
How? I won't watch that garbage.
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<3
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>Sonic breaking into a sob begging Surge for help.
Is this what westerners mean when they say they want characters to "develop" and be "interesting"?
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>>577802742
Psychotic girl was experimented on, hates the protagonist and wants to kill a lot of people but after their final battle he talks to her about the power of friendship they become friends
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>>577802973
Cute, I love that trope.
>>577802935
Wtf?
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>>577802935
It's what they want when they say they want them to be "relatable."
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>>577802935
Yes that's literally what they mean every single time. Comicfags love that shit.
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>>577802396
>>577802973
Surge wouldn't sexually assault Sonic to prove a point
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>>577801446
Why wouldn’t it have romance? Look at the photos of Ben Schwartz and Kristen Bell together holding Sonic and Amy figures
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Stop samefagging bestie
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>>577799702
This never happenrd in the comics.
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>>577802396
Can someone draw Surge or Amy like this?
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>>577796174
Because good art is good art. A single error is annoying but not reason to throw the whole thing out
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>>577803572
>>577799702
I think anon might've confused this scene for that, it seems that she only willing takes off her band when she's sleeping, not relaxed.
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>>577803679
I'm certain that both exist already somewhere.
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Enemies to lovers just works. Sonic should do it.
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Would humanized Bunnie be blonde? I had a dream last night. Sally naturally was a sort of hazel redhead but Bunnie was a wispy platinum blond and it really worked for me.
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>>577804012
BUNNIE IS BROWN, NOT YELLOW
FUCK YOU
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>>577803339
that..doesn't mean anything. they could just have easily been them holding sonic and shadow figures. that doesn't mean there was sonadow shipping in the 3rd movie.
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>>577804012
SatAM Bunnie or Archie Bunnie?
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>>577803794
a shame tho, she looks so nice with it down.
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I was thinking about it, and I'm pretty sure it's actually leather. Like the Fonz's jacket.
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>>577804080
This is humanized Bunnie, though. Does she have more blonde energy than brunette? I'd say so.
But I feel the same way about y*llow Tails so I get it.
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IDW Sonic is Tom Holland's Spidey
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(You)! Yes (You)! Kill (You)rself!
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>>577803923
Agreed, SonicXEggman is the only sane ship.
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>>577796335
Kino
>>577797403
I don't hate it exactly. The shippers of it tell me to kill myself, write up rape fanfics,, and misconstrue or invent things about both characters while ignoring how Shadow feels and what he would actually need. It's...irksome, let's say.
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>>577804213
When Tom Spidey tried redeemshit on a psycho bitch who wanted to tear his head off she spent a week sucking his dick instead of turning further into villainy like Surge did. IDW Sonic ls less cool than ironboy
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>>577804167
I hate your kind
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>>577804150
They put heart figures into the image. Read between the lines
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>>577804213
So the best one?
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You guys remember that time Sonic said he wanted to fuck twins, also Princess Peach, in actual Sega-approved content?
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>>577804213
I can see it honestly. Especially with muh no killing
IDW Sonic would get his family killed over his obsession with redeeming
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>>577804160
You know, I didn't ask them. It was just sort of "oh there's my good friends Sally and Bunnie." No thoughts of specific canons came up, it was just somehow obvious it was them, even though they were humans who obviously could only loosely resemble their Mobian selves.
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I want to fuck this bug like you wouldn't believe
https://files.catbox.moe/rja0zu.png
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>>577805173
what a slut
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>>577805173
Fuck off realcuck
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>>577805287
too big
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>>577804784
sonic boom was funny as fuck sometimes, nobody on it took the plot seriously and that was a great choice
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>>577805173
realchad is back
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>>577799912
This Sonic shaves his legs, what a loser.
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>>577805173
Is it possible for someone to act like a monster Chad while having sex? I've never had sex before.
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>>577793306
Can you handle any group art that features Silver and not Blaze, or are you an average Blazefag?
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>>577806375
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>>577804234
After (you) fagola!
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>>577806585
Better times...
Although who seriously waifu's Tangle? The gayest waifu you could possibly choose.
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>>577806732
well, she's cute so i can understand that, plus dicking a lesbian is a fetish
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>>577806832
I dunno, every time I see Tangle I just think of Betty from Rugrats. Same personality I feel. I just don't find that remotely attractive.
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This place was much better without realfag
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this place is some much better with realchad
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i'm glad i'm here
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>>577807151
Is Amy clothes more higher tier than Sonic's
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Amy says embrace your love and chase your dreams!
https://youtu.be/KoFSQeOAYz4?si=Y9_lBXvO6Hc7jOWr
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>>577799912
Way past ahead of you, pal!

>>577800292
TBQH the ship dynamic is why I like it, it's freedom and responsibility having to meet in the middle, the natural tension of the trained leader and the talented ace, the planner and the powerhouse. And I like how their colors and clothes are basically the reverse of each other, that's nice aesthetically. I don't self insert, I just think it's nice.
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>>577807301
Nancher returned for a brief period, but it looked like he was completely out of practice. Then he dipped before he got back in shape.
Shame, he made the best Sonic art growing up.
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>>577805173
RealDash is based and we're tired of pretending he's not..
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>>577807532
>having to meet in the middle
Sonic literally wouldn't meet anyone in the middle, that's the entire point of his dynamics with everyone. A conflict with Sonic only goes one way. Even Sally's creator was aware of this.
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>>577806585
>>577806732
>>577806832
This. Not too mention Tangle looks like a little boy, a cute little girly little boy with a pussy you can impregnate
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>>577807725
Imagine Sonic's reaction if he saw Amy with long loose hair
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>>577807802
Nah, she acts like an aunt, but like a really autistic aunt.
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>>577807791
A lot of discussion on this general seems to circle back to people imagining Game! Sonic in a situation clearly meant for Archie Sonic
Yeah no shit if you just replace Archie Sonic with game Sonic every pairing just dies. That's not really an argument. That anon is talking about Archie Sonic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwK2C6HKsDs
Catch the light and show you the way
Be the one to stop you being afraid
Make the trees to where you when you wish
Give you everything you need
Be the one to hold you when you cry
Let you know that you're really wise (standing)
Make sure that you want to be strong (by)
Be here when you need me along
Standing by...
Standing by...
Standing by...
-
Good night.
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>>577807978
If Archie Sonic's personality is that different from Sonic, then he isn't Sonic. There is no "game Sonic". That's just Sonic.
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>>577807791
Yeah I know that's how post-retcon Sonic works and how windzooms like him. That's not how we saw him back in the day, though. He wasn't some elemental embodiment of Wind™ and Freedom™, he was just a guy fighting the good fight and being damn good at it. That was my Sonic, and it's why I don't care too much about modern Sonic. We didn't have "canons" back then, there was just Sonic, even for the Japanese. That's why Sonic Team put Archie comics in Mega Collection, it was all a messy but theoretically unified blob of Sonic.
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>>577807725
I hate it thanks.
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>>577808137
Nah, it's more accurate to say that modern game Sonic isn't Sonic. He's diverged too far from his origins.
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>>577808175
>-retcon Sonic
Lol
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>>577808137
>>577807791
Bestie...
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>>577807867
sonic girls with long hair look so nice
>>577807958
i wonder if he would like that
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>>577808175
>Post retcon Sonic
Ben Hurst was aware of this before Satam even existed and described it when talking about Sonic and Sally's dynamic. So for both the real Sonic and Satam Sonic there is no "compromise". If he doesn't like it it doesn't happen. Those are the words of Sally's creator.
>post retcon
Sonic being like the wind is older than Sonic 1
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>>577808175
>We didn't have "canons" back then,
Yea we did. You just didnt know better

>That's why Sonic Team put Archie comics in Mega Collection, it was all a messy but theoretically unified blob of Sonic.
I promise you that wasn't the case at all based on interviews and statements by Sonic Team.
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>>577808175
By this logic you shouldn't use any green eyed version of Sonic because that was when it was established in an undeniable fashion
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>>577808343
>sonic girls with long hair look so nice
...yes.
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>character
>character with generic loose long hair
Why do people glaze this? Its soulless but people.do this with every girl in every piece of fiction.
I saw people do that to frigging Tai Li from Avatar ffs.
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>>577808514
yes yes
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Archiefags trying to lie and claim Sonic's personality was retconned is hilarious like we don't already have records of Naka complaining about Sonic being in romance from the mid 90s
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>>577808001
>standing by
>confirmed
>acknowledged
>moving out
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>>577808610
pat the hedgehog
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>>577808625
Tootieschizo....
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>>577808343
Sonic would certainly like it
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>>577808175
Objectively and demonstrably false. Sega of America was openly aware that Sega of Japan hated the western take of Sonic from day 1. Before Satam was even pitched:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkhjBAYL2Hs&
The SOA exec literally mentions how painful it was meeting with Sonic Team about it. This is not a new thing or a lie that windfags made up just to shit on your ship
I don't care about Sonamy vs Sonally or whatever the fuck you guys fight about but idk why shippers always just flat out fucking lie
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>>577808690
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>>577808343
Amy's still a hegehog. If she grew her hair out, she wouldn't be able to keep it from sticking out.
She has spines, not fur.
(I know hedgehogs also have fur too,)
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>>577808638
There was a Dune game on Megadrive? I only know of the DOS game.
Oh, and Spice Wars, who is very good. And Awakening, who is shit.
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>>577808776
Oh gosh.
I might actually like Amy now. Squeeze these cute cheeks, do it now.
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>>577808581
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>Besties are here?
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>>577808775
>idk why shippers always just flat out fucking lie
Shippers like the idea of their favorite pairing being canon, the creator's vision, or canonically legitimate in some way.
With the blue hedgehog all pairings are illigitimate. Sonamyfags will also twist information to make it sound like Sonamy is canon when it isn't.
Sonallyfags will try it sometimes but it literally doesn't work if you already know the Sonic Team vs SOA history.

Anyone trying to convince you that there is some canonicity behind Sonic being in love is just being dishonest. That includes Sonamyfags.
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>>577808821
You skipped Dune 2000 and Emperor Battle for Dune? Shame. Emperor is amazing - or it was in like 2001, it might not have held up to the crushing weight of time.
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>>577808772
true, maybe wonder if it wouldnt make it harder for her to run/fight
>>577808786
oh come on, on the girls they work a lot more like actual fur/hair than spikes.
>>577808956
amy is fucking cute, just play the old games, she's adorable
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Sonic being obstinate in relationships (not just romantic) and 'his way or the highway', 'keep up or get left behind' is a character flaw I wish was touched on more.
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>>577808786
I dont like longhaorfaggotry but this argument doesnt really work since Amy canonically styles her spines and flat irons them for her bobcut anyway
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>>577808775
People who worked at Sega of America in the 90s will literally tell you out right that Sonic Team hated westnic, Sonally, and all that shit and Sonallyfags will still pretend that Sonamyfags are the delusional ones
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>>577809109
>oh come on, on the girls they work a lot more like actual fur/hair than spikes.
Nope, the only thing keeping her hair down is the hairband, otherwise her hair would stick like Sonic.
>>577809179
The day she doesn't have time to do that, her hair's going to stick straight out.
Don't take the idea of her struggling with her hair shooting out when she's trying to make it long and feminine away from me. It's fun.
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>>577808775
idk why in 2026 anyone is surprised that shippers will lie about provable information. it takes one conversation with a sonamyfag yapping about 2027 to know this
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>>577809284
>Nope, the only thing keeping her hair down is the hairband, otherwise her hair would stick like Sonic.
well you are no fun
>Don't take the idea of her struggling with her hair shooting out when she's trying to make it long and feminine away from me. It's fun.
i suppose
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>>577809148
Why
>his way or the highway
Sonic isn't really like that. He more just won't do something he is against or he doesn't wanna do.
He isn't gonna compromise or sacrifice his feelings on something for the sake of some greater good or to appease others.
>keep up or get left behind
Its less a "this is what Sonic believes" and more just an observation of what happens when you interact with him.
He doesnt have some conviction about it.
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>when your favorite ship gets reduced to bait to make gamefags think everyone who likes it is an idiot
pain
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>>577809108
I thought Dune 2000 was cancelled?
And no, I just remembered Emperor Battle for Dune. And the other Dune game, the one where you need to build concrete floor, then build your base.
I never beat Emperor, I got stuck in a mission where the Atreides just kept spamming laser units that oneshot my units. Or something like that. I kept attacking and attacking but never made a dent.

>>577809109
I'd like to, but honestly I'm not having fun with Sonic CD.
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>>577809009
>>577809339
Sonic likes Amy back. It's indisputable. You just don't know how to read between the lines. Get with the times. It's not the 2000s anymore
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>>577809483
it happens, the sonic fandom still havent reach the levels of the naruto one with the shipping wars
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>>577809456
>Her treatment wears off during her date with Sonic, she stands up to excuse to the bathroom, her spines are so big they stabbed the chair she's sitting on through the back and they carry it with her as she walks away without her realizing it.
I am a genius, I know what ideas give potential, do not ever question me again.
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>>577809284
Its not the hairband. Its her haor routine. She flat irons them.
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>>577809554
It's disputable, if you ignore the evidence and treat canon as modular.
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>>577809148
This is covered in every Sonic game where he speaks.
So if we're talking about "post retcon Sonic" it's as soon as he got green eyes. If he doesn't want to do something he just leaves. He is straight up unworkable in romance by design. That includes Sonamy and Sonally and it's been explained to death by every possible person from Iizuka to Evan to Ian. Sonic Battle from start to finish is just Sonic causing conflicts by being extremely adamant. Sonic 06 puts it in his theme song. It was one of the only details Satam had to go off of and was literally brought up in an interview for that show. Sonic X has two episodes that run on the joke that it's impossible to make Sonic even consider doing something he doesn't feel like doing. Sonic disregarding other peoples feelings about his decisions is even in fucking Sonic Colors when he shoves Tails into a spaceship so he can fight Eggman on his own.
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>>577809554
Sonamyfags are even stupider than Sonallyfags because at least Sonallyfags have the excuse that they were reading non canon comics and never thought about the Japanese opinion on it.
Sonamyfags read the Japanese shit and somehow come away thinking that there is any room for error in Yuji Naka saying "Sonic will not settle down, Amy will chase him forever" or Oshima saying "Male or female, Sonic won't have a relationship with anybody"
NO ONE. EVER. ALL SHIPS ARE OOC INCLUDING AMY
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING RETARDS

HELL SONALLY IS LESS OUT OF CHARACTER THAN SONAMY BECAUSE THAT IS A DIFFERENT VERSION OF SONIC
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>>577809551
>I'd like to, but honestly I'm not having fun with Sonic CD.
CD isnt for everyone indeed, just play adventure or the GBA ones she is playable
>>577809635
>I am a genius, I know what ideas give potential, do not ever question me again.
heh, funny as fuck scenario indeed
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I feel smarter whenever I see shipperfags try and argue around Sonic Team's extremely blunt statements regarding Sonic and romance. It's like someone trying to argue that ice is hot.
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>>577809750
>Sonic disregarding other peoples feelings about his decisions is even in fucking Sonic Colors when he shoves Tails into a spaceship so he can fight Eggman on his own.
Tbf, that one is less him disregarding Tails' feelings and more him disregarding the Tailsfags who expected Tails to fight Eggman with him for some reasons feelings.
Which is good because fuck those guys.
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>>577810030
It doesn't matter how smart you are if your premise is fundamentally broken.
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I guess I mean by 'touched on' I mean presented as actual flaw to overcome. Or someone actually in-universe point it out. It happens, but it's just 'eh, that's how he is'

My fault for expecting some progression in a series like this, desu
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>>577809551
>honestly I'm not having fun with Sonic CD.
CD is a game i love everything about except actually playing it.
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>>577806585
the only good fan ship
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>>577809108
Oh wait I'm a dumbass, Dune 2000 is the one based on Red Alert.
I didn't play it that much

>>577809882
>>577810143
My beef with CD is that I can't figure out how to keep my speed constant to go to the past. And looking for "Robotnik's Machines" is a pain in the ass.
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>>577808175
Even if we pretend that the wind thing was invented for Sonic Adventure why are you using a Sonic Adventure styled sonic then? King Sonic only existed after Naka said Sonic wouldn't settle down. So this is a double negative.
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>>577810030
I dont feel smart about it. I just get disapointed in humanity really. Knowing this doesnt make you smart. People not knowing this is just willful ignorance really.
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>>577810186
>My beef with CD is that I can't figure out how to keep my speed constant to go to the past. And looking for "Robotnik's Machines" is a pain in the ass.
ye u need a good understanding of the level design and shit
anyway, play adventure 1 and the GBA ones
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>>577809727
Learn to read between the lines. The test of love mini game in 06, him accepting Amy's offer to go on a date in Unleashed, the date he went on with Amy in the Sonic x Amy 2021 wallpaper story, their interactions in IDW and Frontiers

>>577809750
>>577809865
Most people don't care what Yuji Naka and Takashi Iizuka had to say and Iizuka is going to have to come to terms with it, even more next year. Most people don't care about their anti-fun stance
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90s burgerfags that krep pushing these cope narratives are literally just the people trapped on Plato's cave of shadows.
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>>577810072
>It doesn't matter how smart you are if your premise is fundamentally broken.

So here's a brain exercise

When Naoto Oshima says "Sonic may not ever be in a relationship"
Is he saying the following
>Sonic will be in a relationship with Amy after he has some character development
>Sonic will be in a relationship if he finds the right girl
>Sonic used to like relationships but we changed our minds in the 2000s (which is after Oshima fucking left)
>Sonic likes relationships and he's just pretending he doesn't
>I am a stupid japanese man who doesn't understand simple english. I thought you meant something else, clearly what I meant was that Sonic actually wants to marry Amy


Or is he saying
>Sonic may not ever be in a relationship.
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>>577810305
Then Sonic 06, Unleashed, and the wallpaper story doesn't count as canon.
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>>577810305
>anti-fun stance
Amy and Sonic not being in a relationship is more fun than them just being a big standard cartoon mascot couple like AiAi and MeeMee though.
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I genuinely love Sonic Boom's take on Sonic and Amy dating.
They might actually date but pretend they don't.
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>>577810475
06 did retcon itself
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>>577810305
i actually can't tell who's stupider between sonallyfags pretending that sega of japan didn't already have a hardline stance about it or sonamyfags pretending that sonamy is some misunderstood pairing with tons of layers that secretly hide sonic's deep feelings for amy
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>>577810475
So you admitted you hate Sonamy just because it's not your taste so you're going to dismiss their romantic interactions as non-canon
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>>577810560
>big
*bog
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why don't you just enjoy your shipping fanficiton without pretending that sonic team approves of it? why do you feel the need to prove that your ship has official backing? If it has the blue hedgehog it never had official backing and never will.
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>>577810575
>I genuinely love Sonic Boom's take on Sonic and Amy dating.
Because you're basic
>They might actually date but pretend they don't.
This is fanon. You didnt actually watch the show.
https://youtu.be/66dCIM-rkak
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>>577614451
Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19693
PSD archive (includes uncensored boards):
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
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>>577810584
That's not what retcon means.
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>>577808175
This already got mass replies but I guess it doesn't hurt to explain. Ben Hurst (The creator of Satam) was the first person to ever bring this up, and it's present in older Japanese media, canon and non canon. So it was in fact always the case. There was never a point in time where Sonic was open to compromise.
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>>577810997
fine, it deleted itself from its own timeline.
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>>577810560
It gets old eventually. It need to actually happen and that's what most people have wanted ever since the 90s

>>577810675
>>577810793
LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES. Morio Kishimoto was right when he said that westerners don't know how to read between the lines. It's absurd that I have to show you picrel
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>>577810892
Why don't you guys ever draw Sonamy?
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>>577811059
Ans yet the characters still have vague memories of it. So it happened. It just unhappened.
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>>577810892
Good work!
I was busy working on the card game this weekend.
SONIC SEX ON THE BLUE BOOOOAAAARD!
Good Sage haircut too.
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>>577811169
06 is such a clusterfuck
the knuckles paramount series referencing it is the most bizarre thing in that series
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>>577811131
>between the lines
BETWEEN WHAT LINES

THE TWO PEOPLE WHO MADE SONIC AND LITERALLY HATE EACH OTHER AND WANT EACH OTHER AGREE ON ONE THING
THAT SONIC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ROMANCESHIT

AND YOU ARE SAYING READ BETWEEN THE LINES? JUST A BUNCH OF PICTURES OF SONIC AND AMY STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER? ARE YOU ACTUALLY RETARDED?

SONIC WILL NEVER EVER LOVE AMY. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. EVER. IT IS JUST AS OOC AS SONADOW. GET OVER IT ALREADY.
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>>577811131
Based sonamychad
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>>577810892
cute sage
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>>577811303
uh oh idwfag melty. post discarded! play the games
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>>577811131
>LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES
Why don't you just read the lines
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>>577811131
>It gets old eventually
This is a fake talking point. In what way has it "gotten old"? Why does it "get old" but other things don't? It's just like when Westfags say "JPnic is boring". Its not a real statement about anything. Its just a "thing" said to be dismissive in a way that doesnt have to explain itself.
>that's what most people have wanted ever since the 90s
No most people don't. its a minority. Most people dont care. Also it would be boring.
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>>577811163
shipping is for little girls
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>>577811131
based and canon
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>>577811437
>Amy: Duh! If Sonic doesnt run, who am I gonna chase, dummy?
Based Amy
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>>577811331
https://x.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/381663233787953153

"Congratulations! Wishing you eternal happiness RT
@p_rosso
:
@SEGA_OFFICIAL
Today was our wedding ceremony. We used Sonic and Amy as our welcome dolls!"
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Sega: Sonic doesn't love anybody
Archie: Sonic loves Sally oh wait fuck Super Genesis wave now Sonic doesn't love anybody
Sonic Team: Sonic doesn't love ANYBODY
Yuji Naka: If you ask me again I'll hurt you
Naoto Oshima: Sonic represents the ancient wisdom of the wind and journeys. Is there space for love in his heart? Sonic is romantic! (no)
Ian Flynn: The mandates say Sonic doesn't love anyone
Evan Stanley: The mandates say Sonic loves Amy but he can't act on it
Sonic Boom: Sonic loves Amy but is a tsundere about it
Sonic X: Sonic loves Amy-4kids produced season 3 nevermind


Did I get it right?
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ITT
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>>577811662
Based Sonamychads at Sega. Add it to the compilation.
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>sonamyfags and sonallyfags argue about the literal worst boyfriend in fictional history again
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>>577811663
>Sonic Boom: Sonic loves Amy but is a tsundere about it
This isn't in the show.
People just bring up the idea that something could be going on between then sometimes as a gag.
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>>577811662
huh, how about that
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>>577811781
Mental illness
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>>577811857
So like Pokemon
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>>577811662
erm faggotbros what is this
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Just a reminder that Randomfox is here and he thinks Sonadow is more in-character than Sonamy.
Come on. Defend your reasoning you literal actual irl faggot.
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>>577811713
Amy is a canon windfag. She is literally us fr.
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>>577811781
I hope this person actually tried & failed so that have to explain to the hospital/therapists that they tried to kill themselves over a pink cartoon character.
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>>577811663
I've been watching Boom over the last week, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. Amy definitely is interested in Sonic, but isn't like obsessing over it. Sonic, however, always shuts it down when the subject is brought up (only like 3 times), and has shown more interest in random NPCs on the streets.
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>>577811662
>Sonamyfags think this actually means anything about the characters
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>>577811973
I dont remember them doing that in Pokémon but they probably did.
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>>577812094
wat
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>>577812056
someone please teach me how to identify which namefags are talking so i can participate properly
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>>577811437
Once again, most people don't care about Yuji Naka's anti-fun stance
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I chose Elise
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>>577812140
>Literal reddit filename
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>>577812056
>he thinks Sonadow is more in-character than Sonamy.
there's no way
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>>577812254
slut
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>>577812401
Yeah he said this
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i should've KNOWN you'd be selfish
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>>577811821
>>577811935
>>577811995
>>577812140
https://x.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/2053286481956139014

"It's Mother's Day today

Add a "rose" to the feelings you want to convey"
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>>577812489
Sonamy sex confirmed
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>>577812478
>tumblr
of course
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>>577812478
Oh my god
What the fuck

I thought he was supposed to be a wind characterization purist?
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katieslop be like
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>>577812478
>Heterosexual Yaoi / Yuri
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>>577812605
Fujos are not smart.
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>>577812478
The "Bestie" spammers aren't sending their best...
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>>577812354
Why do you find it anti-fun? If you wanna make shipart, go and do it.
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>>577812478
>sonic and shadow have a kid
fucking hell, please dont make me remember all the mpreg shit on deviantart
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>>577812478
Are you telling me the guy who buttrapes anyone who mentions the comics or Sonic X is a Sonadowfag who shits on Shadouge
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>>577812631
You do NOT know what a fujo is. You absolute fucking retard it literally translates to rotten girl that's a grown ass man with a boyfriend who takes dicks up the ass and spams the thread daily with his seething hatred for sonamy
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>>577812692
>Rouge the moment she found out she was pregnant with Silver
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>>577812056
everytime

anyone that argues sonamy is ooc because wind or whatver has some other ship.
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All anti Sonamyfags have an agenda. It is always pairing Sonic with a more masculine woman or a man. They hate femininity. It makes them uncomfortable.
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i totally get it if you are a purist and want to call ships ooc but to turn around and shill sonadow after that is insane because then you're not a fucking purist
>>577812767
i'm surprised, i thought he would be pro sonamy
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>>577812478
This person sounds jealous of functional relationships and is projecting it onto sth ships of all things *armchair psychologist*
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>>577812594
If I didn't have a reason to hate Shadamy more than I already do, then I have found it
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>>577812710
ok fujo
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>sthg's meanest most aggressive windfag thinks that Sonic has sex with Shadow and resents hetero pairings
???????????????????????????????????
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Pinknic
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>>577812478
None of this implies anything you said. He is just criticizing lazy "white picket fence domestic life" ships in general.

And he's right. That shit is bland and boring.

Sonamy stuff is often guilty of this as well since its the mainstream ship. More stuff with them should be them running off to adventures together.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I71Huh6qhE
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>>577812901
Randomfox isn't a windfag. Sparky and Krack are the resident windfags. Randomfox is a gamefag who hates wind when it's in non game media.
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>>577812913
why is he pink
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>>577813036
Why are you pink
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>>577812660
It's anti-fun because doesn't allow the fans to get what they have been demanding for 30 years now
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>>577812804
>i'm surprised, i thought he would be pro sonamy
Based on what? He has pretty low opinion of Amy in general.
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>>577813078
because amy always was pink
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Basednic!
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>>577812967
So he ISNT a windfag? I thought he was the one who got famous for seething about IDW being ooc
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The guy who spams the bestie meme all day made pages of ai sonamy porn
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>>577805173
>hides other version behind his dead ass patreon
Nobody's going to subscribe to you
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>>577813204
Duofag did sonamy porn?
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Fox hates non canon stuff (except underground?) so much that he circled around to saying something even more ooc
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>>577813204
>>577813270
https://files.catbox.moe/2wi9i8.png
What did "Bestie"spammer mean by this?
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>>577813132
>it's anti-fun because im a baby that wants their bottle
Not seeing what this has to do with their dynamic as it was being "anti-fun" or not. According to Hoshino, their view was that it would be more fun that way then them being a bogstandard couple. And I agree because NickyManga Amy is boring by comparison
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besties wish amy had the guts to just go up and put chili on sonic's dog
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How can somebody think Sonic and Amy is fun? Sonic being a loner is funner.
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>>577813390
Why did you make sonamy porn
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>>577813394
I think pissing off people who have an autistic hatred for it is fun
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>>577813413
I would never. Amy belongs with metal.
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>>577812478
Man, hating normal is a level of mental illness I can't and refuse to understand. This person should be in an asylum.

Man, I'm glad it's canon that Crash fucked Tawna and they had kids off screen for the rest of the series.
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>>577813390
Blaze: Wtf does that mean?
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>>577812949 (me)
Sonic and Amy's Japanese voice actors singing a love song together. Not AI
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>>577813494
This Amy is CUTE CUTE!
But nah Amy loves the real Sonic.
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>>577812478
Randomfox is literally right. People who want to make the characters live boring domestic lives are usually hetero shippers. You're just mad at his examples.
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Sonamy is light Shadria
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>>577813503
>Man, I'm glad it's canon that Crash fucked Tawna and they had kids off screen for the rest of the series.
is that true? cool
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>>577813668
Randomfox....Shadow is not gay...
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>>577813503
>Crashfag
Leave. Your series was always trash and Even NaughtyDog thought so which is why they abandoned ot first chance they got.
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I remember when Randomfox insisted that Iizuka meant "two locations" instead of two worlds and that we were all misunderstanding what he meant by world even though everyone else at sega asked about the question said that it specifically meant TWO PLANETS and Paramount had also confirmed that "Sega" told them that Sonic is from a different planet and not just an island on earth
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>>577813740
Crash is in fortnite with Sonic ergo this is on topic.
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>>577812489
That means this has a chance at becoming canon
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>>577813668
Fr. They guy tends to go overboard but he is right this time. He is flaming the fujos just as much as anyone else here lol
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>>577802396
Just finished the movie
Can confirm. That ending felt like a Sonurge fanfic
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>>577804784
I mean he's right on both counts, even if Amy didn't wanna hear it.
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>>577813836
No
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>>577812478
>paragraph 1
He is right. Shippers who just want to play house with the characters and draw them sitting on the couch with their kids are fucking boring. Ships are better when you show the ugly side of the characters too

>Paragraph 2
Sonic and Shadow having kids? Excuse me?
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>>577813986
What are you gonna do? Spam Tawna pics while crying like a baby?
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>>577810186
>My beef with CD is that I can't figure out how to keep my speed constant to go to the past. And looking for "Robotnik's Machines" is a pain in the ass.
If you just want the good ending, just get all the Time Stones. Nothing else matters. If you're doing it for achievements in the 2011 release, then sorry, you'll have to actually figure it out.
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>>577814080
...Why would I do that?
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>>577814136
NTA but have YOU ever gone for all the Time stones?
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>>577811781
I can imagine this will be Chris Hernandez and Katie Chrzanowski next year and they're going to fully deserve it
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>>577810889
>This is fanon. You didnt actually watch the show.
In his defense, there was that one episode where they were on a mysterious picnic with just the two of them for absolutely no reason whatsoever that was neither explained nor justified in any way. But the rest of the show doesn't match any kind of secret dating idea. Just this one scene for some reason.
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>>577814136
...what? You don't need ot destroy Robonikt's machines to get the good ending?
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shadow getting sonic pregnant is in character. take that sonamy tards
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>>577813291
How would we have known Sonic liked Amy back before the test of love mini game in 06? He showed no signs of liking Amy back in the games before that. Hoshino's statement sounds like an attempt to save face after being pressed on a question he had no answer for in light of this
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>>577814458
>there was that one episode
Screen shot.
Thats all it was. Boom is like Family Guy. People dont watch the show. They watch clips and gags out of context online.
That's how the BoomSonamy means got off the ground. Shippers saw it as a way to "get away from the baggage".
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>>577811781
This is why trying to kill yourself is fucking retarded. If you succeed, you fucking killed yourself. Your enemies win cause you are dead. And if you fail at killing yourself, congrats on being a giant failure.

This is why people who committed suicide were called cowards back in the day. Not just cause it's true but cause taking yourself out is retarded.
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>>577814458
Well, there was also the episode where they reenacted Amy's "fanfiction" and the episode where Sonic and Amy were at the movies together for no reason other than it was a date.
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>>577814563
>How would we have known Sonic liked Amy back before the test of love mini game in 06?
The manual in Heroes? Knuckles accusing Sonic of "playing with that girl's heart again"?
Regardless I don't really care because i'm not a shiptard.

577814563
>Hoshino's statement sounds like an attempt to save face after being pressed on a question he had no answer for in light of this

....except Ohshima and Naka and Sonic Central bios and all public info have all been made on the matter prior.
So no, youre just coping.
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>>577812103
I hate to call you out here, but Amy is definitely obsessive about her love for Sonic in Boom (the photo in her purse, the homemade life-sized Sonic doll, the inner thought robot almost calling her out on it in front of everyone), though she tries to hide it. Sonic, on the other hand, clearly has something for her, too, and all of the other characters recognize it (even Eggman asks what their deal is), though he always downplays it and it's not in the forefront of his character like it is Amy's, which is why him showing interest in other girls upsets Amy.
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>>577814794
Sonic not disliking Amy as much as it seems and Knuckles accusing Sonic of playing with her heart doesn't even imply that Sonic likes her back.
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>>577814725
>Sonic can't just hang out with Amy without it being some kind of "secret date".
Honestly BoomSonamyfags are way more desperate frankly.
The show has explicit scenes of Amy trying to set up a date and failing and being defeated over it and Amy treats her interest in Sonic as a secret she keeps from him and doesnt want him to know.
Doesn't track with the idea they are "secretly dating".
BoomSonamy is less canon than Game!Sonamy if anything.
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Shadow... pregnant? This is your great windfag?
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>>577814860
>Sonic, on the other hand, clearly has something for her, too,
Not really
>other characters recognize it
They are just assuming shit that isn't there.
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>>577814294
Yeah, they're some of the easier special stages in the series if I can be honest. Did it three times this year alone.
>>577814517
Getting all of the Time Stones forces a good future for the rest of the game. All of the machines are automatically destroyed if you go back to the past.
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>>577812478
>>577812818
The way he rants about straight couples is reminiscent of how Elliot Rodger would rant in his video logs about how seeing couples happy out in public would make him angry, resentful, and jealous
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>>577814964
The line "he doesn't dislike her" is a compn thing in japan for cool guy characters to day implying they actually do but in a way where they play it off.

Its also a thing in English but its a lot more standard and codified as a trope in japan and in anime.

Vegeta talks about Bulma, his literal wife, with that same description for example.
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>>577815082
>Yeah, they're some of the easier special stages in the series if I can be honest. Did it three times this year alone.
I find accessing them near impossible.
Getting the Rings for it is a pain in the ass in CDs level design.
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>>577815070
>Knuckles: "Looks like she's setting up for a date."
>Sonic: "A DATE!? ...I-I-I mean that's cool, what do I care? ...STOP LOOKING AT ME."
>Knuckles knowing smile
Yeah, not really and they're just assuming shit. Clearly.
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Just remember. If Tootie could win and Tawna could win, then Amy can win too
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>>577815404
Yes?
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>>577815535
Media literacy really must be dead if something that obvious can't be picked up by a viewer in a kids show. God damn.
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Alright let's be honest: who here ACTUALLY hates Realdash and why?
If you like him, why?
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>>577815664
I don't know or care about him one way or another, but he's at least partially based if he wants to fug the bug because only cool people do that.
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>>577815219
An explanation of that saying's implied meaning would've saved Amy's character from years of mockery and humiliation
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>>577815490
https://youtu.be/ZoSi0bzr-kU?si=ZB-kbS-K3vJNEUsY
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>>577815728
Even back then people in english speaking territories understood the implication just fine. Even the old wiki that was basically just shitting on her character and saying Sonic cant stand her still had it cited as evidence he actually likes her. Since it was irrefutable and obvious and couldn't be argued against.
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>>577815082
>Getting all of the Time Stones forces a good future for the rest of the game. All of the machines are automatically destroyed if you go back to the past.
Oooh, okay. Thank you.
So either you take the "easy" route and get all the stones, or you do the hard route and go to the past and destroy the machines.
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>>577810892
Who the fuck is the green girl? Archie isn't Sonic
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>>577816028
Yeah, both lead to the good ending. Getting the Time Stones is a lot more straightforward and you can even potentially have them done by Quartz Quadrant. Just depends on which you think is easier to do.
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>>577816336
Neat.
Still, Sonic CD is not a game I'd play for pleasure.
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this is the weirdest sonamy debate i have ever seen
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>>577814980
Sonic also has moments when he seems to hide his love for Amy
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>>577816203
That's the secret statue from Wacky Workbench in CD.
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>>577814912
How does grabbing Sonic's pregnant belly feel like?
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>>577816460
Is she trying to pet Sonic?
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>>577816203
>/sthg/ doesn't play the games
What else is new?
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>>577816624
I was playing Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back earlier. It sucks.
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>>577816460
I see. I thought it was a really really really off model Jewel
>>577816624
You aren't going to trick me to play oldfag games again. I played & Knuckles, is worse than mania, that's enough.
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>>577816203
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>>577816375
It's not for everyone, but I like it.
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>>577816203
Would it kill you dumb fucks to play a Sonic game before trying to criticize something
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>>577816994
CD is shit, and that statue has no story whatsoever
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>>577817130
Weren't you just mad about Archie out of nowhere? Why are you complaining about a video game not having a story? Nigger, make up your mind.
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>>577812758
What if she gets an abortion? I don't think Silver would disappear, but it must feel awful for him
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>>577813291
The Nickymanga is boring for reasons beyond that desu
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>>577817130
>CD is shit
Imagine pretending to be a purist and then shitting on CD
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>>577815219
Interestingly that's blaze's og line in japanese 06
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>>577811781
Is this wingedshell/joresuoni?
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>>577803089
>Weird front quills
>Impulsive
>Insecure
>Younger
>Power bottom
Manic is proto Silver. Except he was much more laid-back
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>>577817703
Silver is not insecure or a ''power bottom''
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>>577817426
>>577817295
Why can't I dislike Archie and CD at the same time? My first Sonic game was Frontiers. I don't care about any of those old games or comics
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>>577817738
>Blaze: Looks like we stopped it for now.
>Silver: But, it'll just rise up from its ashes again. [Hits a brick wall with his fist in frustration.] What's the point of all this? It'll never end.
>Blaze: Calm down, Silver.
>Silver: [disappointed] Then tell me what we should do. How can we completely destroy Iblis?
He is submissive by nature
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>>577806585
>Tangle canon now and can't be lesbian
He won
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>>577817857
You insulted something from the games because you were so unfamiliar with it that you assumed it's from Archie. As far as I'm concerned you're almost as bad as an Archeifag. You're wrong for literally no good reason.
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>>577818034
you can't bottom to a girl and she wears the maid dress anyway
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>>577818162
But she will wear the suit in the wedding
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>>577815490
win what
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>>577818302
male amy..
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>>577816336
i found destroying machines easier than the special stages unforutnately.
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>>577817738
exactly anon, silver is a receiver but he certainly isn't dominant
evidence reel:
https://files.catbox.moe/j3q09k.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jbs0pb.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cfp8t2.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/xky7uu.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/79f2h1.jpg
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>>577818621
Gay stuff isn't canon.
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>>577818621
That's a tasty Espio cock
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>>577818621
at least post some good porn
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>>577818913
can you elaborate on what is considered good?
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>>577818958
no, just keep trying
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>>577819082
Now kiss me
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>>577817857
Anon, you are at least 18, right...?
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>>577816962
I played the crap outta Mania but CD's special stages? Tough.
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Well it happened again.

I was dreaming about a cute asian girl with a body like amy pic related and i was kissing and touching her gently, and she was all into it. I was leaving the couch because his brother was nearby and i told her i would have been waiting her in the bathroom i tought it would be the best private place to have a moment with her, and she told me "ok, but i'm not sure everyone would be asleep, we'll find another place maybe" then we kissed and i left her take a nap on the couch.

Then i woke up and it was all a lie, the voice inside my head went like
>KEEEEEK LOOK AT HIS FACE, he fell for it again the little faggot. Why any girl should be interested in you? Nobody wants you, you got the stink and are meant to stay alone!
I am broken today maybe more than usual, why god made me just to suffer?
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>>577819328
Yeah I was born in 2007
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so anons, we all collectively agree that we're gonna be storytiming krazyelf's blaze x rouge comic on the trash thread when it comes out right?
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Robots
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CD is jap slop.
It almost killed the series.
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>Fornite made a real 3D green hill zone before Sonic
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>>577819816
Fucking Tourist.
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>>577819469
it sucks having dreams like that, but it isnt the end of the world, dont let that destroy you
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>>577819906
Sonic adventure? Not real 3d
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>>577820030
aw man...
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>>577811232
What card game?
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>nobody wants (You) fiona
>>T-that is something i would say to bully you, why are you doing it to me?
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>>577823079
So...How long until the inevitable robot Sonic porn?
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>>577823150
Someone is on it already I'm pretty sure
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>>577823079
>>577823429
who's that?
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>>577823548
Fortnite Sonic who is "canon" in the west.

https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2088717379220234439

Sega of America production so expect the usual suspect to claim it's "canon".
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canon autism was started by powerscalers and shippers so they can win internet arguments
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Most of the threads on /v/ sucked today.
At least i have you guys
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>>577817130
The statue is my wife and also likes CD
That's her story
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>>577816203
Imagine larping as a purist
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>>577816203
If I had a dollar for every time someone here accidentally revealed that they didn't play a major Sonic game in the middle of a dunk
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>>577823901
not only is a clown but is also clueless. and he's a sonamybestie so it fits
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>>577810892
Cool art sthg anons and always appreciate art of the wacky workbench statue since we rarely get those
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>>577816203
How embarrassing.
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>>577824010
sonamyfags pretending to be superior to archiefags while knowing nothing about the video games adds up. you could say it's in character
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>>577823975
>Major
The only game where the new character completely changes her design
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>>577816770
You would be able to walk this one off but it's common knowledge that woman is the first distinct appearance of a non-eggman humanoid in a Sonic game and the go-to argument when arguing with people about whether or not there were indications of humans in the games.
This is something people who are interested in the games tend to know about. This is no different from the Sonallyfag who thought the wind thing was a retcon.
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>>577823663
ah
i hate fortnite so whatever
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>>577816203
"Didn't 06 confirm Silver was insecure?" type post
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>>577824359
Anon, absolutely nobody argue about the statue. Eggman is the go to argument about humans being in the game, because he is human. This statue is nothing.
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>>577824593
this. im tired of people acting like eggman was always some kind of exception. he wasn't an exception until forces came out. it was always a nonfan discussion
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>>577824509
At least that is understandable because most people aren't playing the games in japanese.
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Slingver
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>>577824725
Siivagunner
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>>577808175
You would have to be like 50 years old and completely ignorant of the sega infighting to believe this without irony
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>>577824509
06 say it, Rivals confirmed it, you just don't want to accept it
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>>577824970
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>>577825159
>Silver you good for nothing retard, I knew I had to kill the Ifrit myself. I love you though *dies*
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>>577825232
I wonder if they'll give shadow sissy round glasses to throw people off
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>>577825264
Mommydow
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Anyone interested in putting this into sonamy collage?
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>>577824970
can we just have a rule that if a personality trait came from the comics then it doesn't fucking exist
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>>577825468
That's from Sonic rivals
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>>577825398
>That evil Eggman stole my Sega Dreamcast! Apparently he couldn't wait until 9-9-99 to buy one.

Sonic you dumb fuck, the game already released a year ago (December 23, 1998)
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>>577825232
reminds me of a certain flash animation
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>>577825398(me)

also shipping aside, does anyone have or know those postcards besides this one? seems to be lost media.
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I can't believe wind energy didn't save the future
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Something about this fagnite shit tells me tails got a secret factory of sex robots somewhere.

WHERE ARE THE DOLLS TAILS? WHERE ARE THE FEMNIC SEXBOTS?
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When did this happen to you?
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Touch the fox,
do it now.

>>577793016
Somebody spilled the tomato sauce.
The thing about trying to make blood look alluring is that you need to make it look like raspberry jam or a thick paint that looks clean. Anything that looks dirty will be a turn off unless you're a dirty dirty dirty girl (or boy).
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>>577826670
Going to Elon Musk's circlejerk? Never.
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>>577827634
>circlejerk
it's full of people hating him
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>>577810186
Your speed doesn't have to be constant, it just needs to be "not slow as balls"
Don't run into shit for 5 seconds and you're good
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>>577829264
There's ALWAYS something to stop me or slow me down. A spring that I need to jump on, a badnik (ta race).
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>>577828875
Addicts and hypocrites who use so many justifications like "muh outreach" to compromise their supposed beliefs. If they truly hated him, they'd use a better site like Bluesky.
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>>577829346
Look over and clear the runway ahead of time before you actually try it then
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>>577829750
...clever.
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>>577829448
>a better site like Bluesky.
Last time i touched that shit it was a neverending feed of liberal seethe because of course who would use that if not activism-addicted faggots.
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>>577829448
>A better site like Bluey
No tranny, your mental illness circlejerk that allows the same 3 opinions is not a good site.
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>>577829448
>better site like Bluesky.
Actually kill yourself
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is scarredsun a tranny or just obese
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i need to see shadow doing that fortnite pee emote
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Bubsy is my favorite Sonic character
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>>577832287
I have the emote, will do it when he hits the Fortnite store
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>>577832287
>>577832406
bite a bullet
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>>577832437
Cry about it fagget
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>>577832437
You struck a nerve, the spammer is seething.
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>the joke is weird fetish
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>>577832695
is that a dick and a pussy
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>>577832695
this is what fornitebabs are into huh, enjoy your vacation faggot
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>>577832695
nutritious
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shadow can't carry diseases so it's objectively ok to drink his piss

silverbro btw
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>he doesn't drink Slurp juice
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>>577832695
Of course it was fag shit, although i don't get how he's peeing without a dick.
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holy shit, so many pissfags
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I fucking lost my pee drawing of Blaze, FUCK!
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IM PISSING ON THE MOON!
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>>577833043
>i don't get how he's peeing without a dick.
intersex
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guys... i dont know what to do anymore... im sitting here in my room with my legs crossed so tight but its not helping... my bladder feels like its gonna explode... i keep thinking about blaze and how warm and strong she is and i just... i peed a little... just a tiny spurt into my fur but now its getting worse... the wet spot is spreading and it feels so warm and embarrassing... blaze please come help your pathetic silver... i cant hold it i need u to teleport here right now and tell me its ok even if u have to hold my hand or... or put me in something... im such a weak hedgehog i cant even control my own piss... im leaking again fuck... blaze im sorry im such a baby...
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>>577833273
>intersex
I prefer "hermaphrodite" or even "satanic beast".
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>>577833353
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CHALLENGE PISSING
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>>577818356
Sawnic's 'dog 'n chili bowl.
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>>577825571
Yeah, that's why Sonic already had one. He's an importer.
>>577825398
Is there enough material for another row? This image got requested at one point, but we want game-canon material.
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>>577810892
This looks so empty
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Pee pee haha
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>>577834250
Its a battley royale (like in Fortnite)
Every week a drawfag dies, only one gets to have the Victory Royale (like in Fortnite)
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>>577834271
rouge...
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>>577819816
>"Real 3d"
???

SA2 exist anyway?
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>>577811260
Aahhh yes sure, the series that's supposed to be about Sonic but instead spends 95% of its time focusing on the family drama of a random Jewish man? The most bizarre thing in that series is that they reference a Sonic game once. Yup. That's it. Not the part where they explain Jewish traditions, or the sex joke, or when they compare Sonic's owl mother to Hitler. It's the Sonic game reference that you found bizarre.
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It's 2026 and people are still getting ass fucked.
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>>577833945(me)
>>577825398

I think it is game canon since it is a postcard advertising sonic adventure but you decide. the anti sonamy collage uses non canon material anyway
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Will the /sthg/ CYOA continue?
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>>577825398
I remember when I first read up on acrual Sonamy research, one of the first things I read about was the difference between the SA1 scene in English vs Japanese where they first meet.

The article I read mentioned that not only does the japanese version not have him look like he is rejecting her wholesale, but it went as far as to say their read on it was that his reaction implied some awkward nervousness at her because of her post Classic Era redesign, like meeting that girl you knew as a kid and seeing her again post puberty and not knowing how to respond to her becoming more attractive.
Give Amy's shift in character was supposed to be that she was kogyaru now, I dont see it as that far-fetched anymore and pcirelated kind of feeds into that.
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>>577835160
You wake up on Moebius.
Looking around, you see checkered terrain, and a lot of water. Where do you go?
[] To the left.
[] To the right.
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>>577834889
I'm referring to the Shogakukan manga kiss. The current image is pretty packed. Also, why do this?
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>>577835439
Right
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>>577835353
Yeah but westerns hated women back then and now they're simps
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>>577810892
naaah, i'm gonna join this place next weekend
it's emptier than my balls after close enounter with sticks
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>>577835353
>his reaction implied some awkward nervousness at her because of her post Classic Era redesign, like meeting that girl you knew as a kid and seeing her again post puberty and not knowing how to respond to her becoming more attractive.
Headcanon, the character design change didn't happen in-universe
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>>577835556
are you going to draw porn too? Otherwise I dont care
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>>577835609
It always did. Even in Sonic Mega Collection, when you view the art, the commentary talks about how characters like Eggman traded their old apparel for something more stylish.
>>577825728
>lost media
First, what's the source for this one? Have to make sure it's legit.
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I need to pee real badly, Amy open your mouth!
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>>577836082
The character design change didn't happen in-universe. It was never acknowledged until Generations, where Classic was made to be a different brand with its own versions of the characters. Sonic Adventure is just the next entry in the series.
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>>577836004
I cant draw that well
Silverrapefag is like Da Vinci compared to me
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=2vNlES3VcH4
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>>577835609
>Headcanon, the character design change didn't happen in-universe
It did. Promo material presented it as such. They even said part of the design logic for the redesigns were to imply the characters aged and got more experience.

Amy in particular has hers described as her "reinventing herself" to becoming a "somebody" complete with the trope of "she cut her hair short to outline a change in her becoming more proactive and agentic" which is a very well understood anime trope for female characters that take charge and become more active, which itself is a core aspect of Amy's character.

But whether or not the intention for the scene was necesarily that is up for you to decide.
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>>577836625
The reasons for the redesign were for public perception, not in-universe lore changes. The game doesn't acknowledge the characters "looking different".
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>>577836183
>The character design change didn't happen in-universe.
...because it wasnt a change in-universe. It was just treated as updated graphics + passage of time.

Amy and Eggman thoigh specifically have clothes and radically change their outfits as part of their character trajectory. Those cant be chalked up to just artsyle changes.
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>>577836401
>niggerNIC
>everythingFAGGOTERY
>IDWfaggotery
I'll pass
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>>577836725
>The reasons for the redesign were for public perception, not in-universe lore changes
...these aren't mutually exclusive.

See >>577836745

Both the english and japanese manuals ans bios also emphasis a long time has passed between the last games and this one.
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Which sonic girl can piss real loud?
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>>577836725
Then why are you using the logic of Generations to understand the design logic of SA1?
Pic a struggle lol
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>>577836936
I never said they are mutually exclusive. I said it's only one. One doesn't exclude the other, but that doesn't mean it's both. The character designs aren't in-universe.

>>577837050
I'm not. I explained that Generations treats the design change differently from the way previous games did.
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>>577835160
It will. Next part was written up, just unposted. IRL reasons for hiatus/Slower-pace. Will have it up by the next thread. That's the disadvantage of Renpy over Your World of Text, others can't easily pitch in. (Also, I merged the tied vote.)
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breaking up with you because you got bean's character wrong.
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>>577835454
It's a typo i am sorry i put me in the wrong place.

do you accept song lyrics made for game canon?
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>>577835353
>>577836625
I am not sure myself, the actual CD flashback of sonic saving amy from metal uses her adventure model, if they wanted to imply sonic and amy were kids but now teenagers then shouldn't they use their classic designs in the flashback?
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Drowning on Surge's ozone scented braps
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>>577837514
imagine dating a classicfag
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>>577817703
It was foretold and makes more sense than Shadow and Rouge
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>>577837321
Nice
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>>577833945
>We want game-canon material
but SonicX is there.
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>>577833945
>but we want game-canon material.
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>>577837127
>The character designs aren't in-universe
But aspects (like Eggman's jacket and Amy's outfit and hair) are.
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>>577837713
>I am not sure myself, the actual CD flashback of sonic saving amy from metal uses her adventure model
Because laziness obviously. There isn't a classic version of Amy's model in thr game like Sonic and Tails, so thry never made one. Amy's was made post the decision to use modern designs, and thus likely was her character direction.
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>>577837713
Correct, he's trying to force a headcanon.
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>>577838461
Go back to twitter.
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>>577838417
They could've reused her saturn model if they were that lazy.

well post gens it is indeed them growing up but idk if that was actually their headspace at the time.
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>>577838569
Amy doesn't have a Saturn model. Her R model is literall the car with a vaguely Amy shaped thing sticking out of it.
There is no seperate Amy model to even use.
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>>577838569
It wasn't. These dumbasses jut whined about it until SEGA was forced to change the canon to appease them. Sonic Adventure was never made with that idea in mind.
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If they wanted the past to have different designs they would have done it. Amy had a 3D model in Fighters.
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>>577838652
Classic amy and sonic with green eyes...

It's interesting that both of their design change is intentionally making them look older though, with amy literally being older and classic sonic often assumed to be like 10 instead of a teen by public (i think they said baka like this)
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Alright. It's time.
...was the background there always green?
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No autism-kun. No one is saying Sonic's eyes got green ans his fur bluer with puberty.
The game is implying a passage of time and the characters having progressed but also there just being an artstyle change because the hardware is more powerful.
It's not one vs the other.


The devs made SA1 with the idea and knowledge in mind that Sonic had been dormant and this was their chance to show where there trajectory fo the series was headed in a new return.
This isn't controversial.
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>>577838897
>No one is saying Sonic's eyes got green ans his fur bluer with puberty.
I wish this was true. I wish no one was saying this.
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>>577838794
....you think the Fighters Models make sense in the Artsyle? Even pre-advebture redesign it doesnt fit. It doesnt even fit the R artstyle.
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it's all very interesting, but where's the porn?
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I skipped Emerald Hills. Not much to say about it, huh? Except that maybe there's a lot more water in it, compared to Green Hill. You really understand you're on an island.
Next is Chemical Plant, and Origins did a good here: they fixed the door's textures. If you know what you mean, you can appreciate it.
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>>577839065
I don't. I also don't think art stye changes are indicative of lore changes, which is why Sonic Team never even considered making the past look different in Sonic Adventure.
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>>577839016
People only pretend they do to be smartasses and push agendas.
The only reason anyone is pushing against what I am saying is because they feel obligated to do so to counteract Classicfag agendas where they claim Adventure was intended to be a completely seperate universe from Classic.

Its typical Sonicfag overcorrection.
Same with anything else in regards to discourse with this sodding fandom and franchise.
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Through clever use of brakes, I manage to avoid the worst of this puzzle.
I genuinely have no idea how you're supposed ot beat this if you fuck up and start at the very bottom: unless you're Tails or Knuckles, you drown before you can reach the surface.
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>>577839219
The latter doesnt follow from the former. Its an insistence you are making for no reason. Like when autists insisted Mecha Sonic in Adventure wasnt a reference to Mrk1 from Sonic 2 because wikibrain.
Multiple things can be true at the same time. Human beings are human beings, not computers.
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>>577839337
I've done it several times intentionally just because it's fun
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>>577839110
>textures
Reminds me of when I see kids eho never played sprite games calling sprites "models".
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I hate that boss. I hate Tails.
I hate when Tails hit the box.
I hate when the boss get iframes because he's hit.
I hate when I go through the boss because he has iframes.
I hate when I die because TAILS HIT THE BLOODY ROBOTNIK TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILS

>>577839485
Do you also enjoy Cock and Balls Torture?
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>>577839403
Ok. It didn't happen. Now stop pretending and enjoy your 2010s slop.
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>>577839519
He's helping!
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>>577839519
Playing video games is fun. Do it a few times and you'll get good
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My favourite level in the game.
Best music, fun layout.

However, to these who are emulating the original Sonic 2: didn't the Robotnik trap trigger right away? In Origins, they blink red, and fire when you're getting away.

>>577839603
I AM GOING TO HELP MYSELF TO MY HAND TO HIS FACE
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>>577839578
>proving my point that he's an agendaschizo.
Not your 2010sfag boogeyman.
I grew up with Sonic just being the same guy from the Classics. I played Sonic 2 on MD and 3, &K and 3D Blast on PC.
The main way i played them and many others later was through MegaCollection+ on PS2.

Spend less time arguing with Boomers on Sonoc Retro.
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Among the little things Origins changed, Robotnik now has longer invulnerability after a hit, so you can't stay on top of him and wipe him in one go. If you try that, you'll fall.

>>577839676
How about I get good all over your keyboard.
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>>577839692
>I AM GOING TO HELP MYSELF TO MY HAND TO HIS FACE
https://youtu.be/PcVO7SbjUac
OKAY!!!
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>>577838204
finally, a good ship for lanolin
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Casino Night.
...it looks awesome, music is nice, but I personally hate pinball games because the ball never goes where you want and in Sonic games, you never know if the exit is at the bottom or not.
I died a few times in Sonic Heroes because of that.

>>577839973
Wasn't there a comic about that too?
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Hill Top Zone.
I really appreciate how the Megadrive manages to make that violin-like sound.
Otherwise not much, it's a very fun level.
EVEN IF FUCKING TAIL GOT ME TO FALL INTO THE LAVA AGAIN
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILLLS!!

And also, that invulnerability I mentioned in >>577839895 is exclusive to Aquatic Ruins, Robotnik in the other levels can still be juggled on.
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>>577838238
The show that Sonic Team reportedly had the most oversight with, but fair to remove.
>>577811131
And might want to place the Kohane bit. Why not just show what it's talking about directly?
Also, should we count SEGA merchandise like >>577812489?
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Mystic Cave.
Aka the most confusing level I ever saw: by name alone, it sounds like what it is, just a cave that has some secrets, but by appearance, it looks more like an old mine (kinda like Endless Mine from S3). And yet, when you hear the music, you expect a haunted mine that is really spooky.

Anyway, time to check something...
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Haaaa?
Are we back in business, Mister Hammond?
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FINALLY
But why does it use Mystic Cave's 2-players track?
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>>577840229
>TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILLLS!!
O~KAY!!
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>>577839519
Should've played the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrp4SyRBPLM&t=232s
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Probably to compensate for being unlocked in Mystic Cave 2, Hidden Palace is only one Act long.
There's no big secret in it as far as I could tell, it's "just" a very cool secret level with some unique mechanism. And some water in the lower levels that is very difficult to leave because there are no bubbles down there.
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>>577840585
I hate this addition to the game. Perfect example of retoooorefaggotry.
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Oil Ocean.
Another level I really like. I feel like there's a lot of them in Sonic 2. Not much to say, top atmosphere, top music, nice platforming...

>>577840848
>cheating
Laaaaame.
Also, not how I imagined Whitehead to look like.

>>577840954
I'm too much into cut content to agree with you. Medievil was one of the game that got me into cut content.
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>>577841116
>I'm too much into cut content to agree with you.
The addition basixally turns into punishing players with having to play a whole ass extra level for falling into a single pit.
It's bad.
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Okay.
I really don't feel like going through THIS now. It's time for a break. See ya later guys.

Bless saves, I can't go through the entire game.

>>577841227
A pit that you can extend a bridge over and that you usually don't fall into.
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Yay a Sonic 2 thread. That game rulesss
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Anyone interested in putting this into sonamy collage?
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>>577840731
>But why does it use Mystic Cave's 2-players track?
Because that was the track that was used in the Simon Wai beta. People have debated if it was the intended track or a placeholder. Shen you hack in Hidden Palace in the final, it plays track 10, so it feels that was meant to be the theme. However, composer notes say it was meant for a cutscene related to the level which was meant to be the way to activate Super Sonic, though that demo version didn't have a loop. The Hidden Palace that serves as an alt route through Mystic Cave Zone Act 2 is basically a total reimagining - more like a prototype for the team to strut their stuff before Mania - and they felt the sombre track was unfitting.
>>577841116
>Also, not how I imagined Whitehead to look like.
He looks like a Beatle, amirit? Here's Stealth, who's a deadringer for my old roommate.
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>>577841280
This level is great btw
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>>577841280
>A pit that you can extend a bridge over and that you usually don't fall into.
You jave to know in advance and think ahead in order to fo so. The pit of doom is famous as a trap people fall into and had to wait for death in in the original game.
Now it's a punishment where you playa whole as extra pointless level for no reason just so Whitehead and online romhacker fans can go basedface over the fact he did it at all.
It's honestly as bad or worse than IanFlynn references.
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>>577841425
is the ghost girl
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>>577841425
I'd put it but wikibrains would go ''uhhh it could be blaze/rouge/some other girl offscreen''
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>>577841534
True!
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>>577841470
Oooh, okay. I did think the "Hidden Palace Theme" sounded way too chill for a level. That kinda makes sense.
Afraid I don't know Stealth though.

>>577841534
Oh yeah sure but I don't wanna play it now.
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>>577841585
I never had trouble with the pit, in fact I was having difficulty finding the one that led me to hidden palace because I just played through the level instead of rushing through and falling everywhere
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>>577841642
>girl
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>>577841709
Hello!
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>>577841837
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>>577841909
girl
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>>577841940
Hi ^-^
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sonic likes elise. elise is his true canon romance partner. not love interest, but actual wedded wife. it's why sonic will never get with amy. he can't remember that timeline, but his heart still feels something there.
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>>577841764
Well tons of people did and whitehead did it on purpose this way so people would find it.
And it adds nothing to the game so its in practice a punishment.
Its like how Origins makes you fight Bog Arms in Sonic 3&K in addition to adding the meme animation of eggman floating towards the Death Egg.
You have no actual idea what the intention was or why it was cut.
Its addition didnt actually add anything. It was just "restoooore" for the sake of it.

The Launch base Boss doesnt need to have a 3RD phase when its sonic 3&K together. It was taken out in the full game for a reason.
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>>577842076
<3
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>>577842000
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>>577842130
>Bog Arms
There's Shrek in the game?
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>>577842143
^w^
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>Sticks the Badger coming to Rumble before Omega and Mephiles
What the fuck, that is a big surprise, but I'll be glad to see my girl.
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>>577841642
lmao, true, it could be Amy but it also could be anyone else, or no one really.
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>>577842143
=)
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>>577842130
Tons of people did because they play Sonic games like racing games and don't pay attention to their surroundings. And then they say Sonic 2's level design is just about going forward...

Though I agree with you, they should've come up with another way to access the level
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>>577842330
Mesmerizing Tails!
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>>577836330
>Saltydkdan
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>wake up
>check sthg before work
>bestie melty

>go to work
>come back
>check /sthg/ because why not
>bestie melty

besties are neets. they are also lonely and most likely undesireable
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Why are you spamming tails?
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>>577842179
Yos!
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>>577842260
Id still put it since it's not leddit we re posting to.
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Tails <3
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>>577842330
>play Sonic games like racing games
Sonic games have always been designed with racing game mentality.
As admitted by the devs.
Exploration in Sonic is a CDfag meme
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>>577842747
What else is there to talk about? Sonic Max some more?
I liked it, even if it's really cringe and rough around the edges
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>>577842126
No the whole point of the game was that Elise would doom the world if Sonelise actually happened, it's a causal loop and the only way to end the loop is elise leaving sonic.

I know people whine about the sonic x human thing but they didn't actually want you to ship it, in fact it being kind of unappealing might be on purpose.
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Cutest girl!
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>>577842934
It's not about exploration, just playing the game like a 2D platformer. I keep seeing people complain that in the classic games they always get hit by random enemies, and while some levels do have poor enemy placement, a lot of the times people are just aimlessly holding forward all the time

>>577842919
Beautiful
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>>577842721
How do we get rid of them??
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>>577819354
I like Mania's special stages, but I think they're among the hardest ones in the series. CD's feel like a cakewalk by comparison.
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Boyboyboy <3<3<3
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>>577843304
they won't leave unless movie 4 sinks sonamy
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>>577843393
I have no opinion yet. I tried to get rings in CD first, but Time and Ring are two different counters in there, so I just wasted time.
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The best special stages are Sonic 1 and Sonic 4 Ep 1
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>>577843437
Epic!
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>>577843437
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Butt!
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>>577843754
A well defined posterior is a sign of health
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>>577843129
>platformer
Also a fanon term. Even western devs called them "character action games".
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>Sticks is coming to Sonic Rumble
The Sonic franchise is HEALING!!!
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>>577843853
He has a really good one!
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>>577843936
Ok dude you get what I meant. Stop being pedantic. Also you care too much about what the devs say
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>>577844020
Yeah
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>>577844167
Imagine having Tails on your bed and falling asleep with him while hugging
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>>577840229
>it's a very fun level.
I've always liked Hill Top, but I feel like it's usually a very disliked level in general.
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>>577844332
No way it's a great level
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>>577844332
Is it? That's odd. I know it's reusing some Emerald Hill assets, but I expected people to just not care about it, at worst.
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Kissing Tails!
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Shy boy
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Can this be the image of the next thread
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>>577842236
>>577844010
>>577844810
Source?
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>>577844930
The official Sonic Rumble Twitter
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>>577844930
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>>577844387
>>577844439
It's not like... Metropolis or Oil Ocean bad, but I think people don't like the pits and the lava section. I feel like more people may have come around on it in recent years, though.
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>>577844986
>>577845031
Cool!

>>577845053
>Metropolis or Oil Ocean
Those are good too
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>>577845031
Nice! So Sega didn't shelve boom completely
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>>577840292
Although these aren't canon since they're not part of the games, they're still a reflection of Sonic Team's stance on how Sonic sees Amy so I say it wouldn't be a good idea to take them out of the collage
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>>577845031
So that's why Sonic Team let slide the recent fan-art with Sticks in it. I guess Sega is cool with Sticks now then.
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<3
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>>577845031
God bless, it's her time.
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>>577844091
>pendantic
The original claims used to make the argument you made are what's pedantic. Im just dismantling them
Also, you care too much about what internet nobodies say.
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>>577844332
I love it too but yeah, people dunk on it and I dont get why.
I hear people complain its "BlueHillZone" or that they hate the Country ass theme music.
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>>577845240
Not sure if it's a good indicator, they have used fan art with sally and fiona and scourge before. multiple times. interesting development regardless
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>>577845452
Yes I'm discussing in the discussion place, holy shit

You're not dismantling anything bro. But whatever you never engaged with what I actually said and just cherry picked random stuff to complain about so I'll just stop replying
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>>577844242
Must feel nice.. Really nice..
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Seems that the faggot that talked shit about her lately talked too early huh?
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>>577845603
The entire argument is "people played Sonic games the way the devs design encourages them to play" and treating that as some failing of the player because internet smart guys on a romhack forum made things up about the games.
How am I not engaging?
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Is it possible for her to return?

Probably not
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>>577845817
That's what Blazefags always get.
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>>577845848
The game is designed around beating the stages fast and getting better times, but there's a world of difference between that and just holding forward, which is what people say Sonic 2 is about (incorrect). In fact the level design actively punishes you just mindlessly going forward
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My girl survived historical revisionism, happy for her
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>>577846083
What the fuck was the point of this? Why did they replaced it with Blaze in that art later on?
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>>577846370
It's impossible to fully understand what goes on in Sega's mind. They constantly flip flop
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>>577846607
>>577846607
>>577846607
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>>577846560
Again, I played the game normally, without trying anything specific, and I didn't have this problem with the pit, because I knew what I was doing. The game didn't "encourage" me to anything. Going mindlessly forward is actively punished by the game, including in your "speedy spectacle segments"

>The section with the pit is a striaght away where the player is naturally going to rush ahead, and thus fall into the pit if they dont already know in advance the bridge needs to be pulled down since it folds down from off the screen towards the player, as opposed to extending out from the player like a wall into a floor.
The way you spell it out sounds even more like a lack of attention. "Oh yeah I'll just spindash at the start of Aquatic Ruin Act 2 to gain an instant boost- oh shit I fell on the water nooooo"
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>>577845950
It's not really the blazefags, people just got tired of you schizo'ing over her in unrelated convos.



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