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>Latest patch:
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Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
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>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked:>>577696885
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Silver pubes
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im straight, but i still want to kiss celeste's horse penis right on the leaky flared tip.
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gay sex with apollo!
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>>577806021
>mark someone with her servo skull
>bullets get tracking and can now arc around corners to hit people in cover

>>577806854
not only is his kit exceptionally strong, his ult has huge synergy and is absolutely busted
also idk if it's ping correction or what but that shit comes out way too fast
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>>577809573
MANY ARE SAYING THIS
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>>577809575
MANY ARE ALSO SAYING THIS...
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this person is about to reach phantom what's your opinion on this
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holy fuck viscous is the most annoying character.
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>>577809953
bro most of us don't care and just goon to the characters.
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>>577810324
xitter is that way sir
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>>577809181
>Celeste
>Vindicta
>Wraith
>Billy
>MnK
>Wraith
>Bebop
>Lash

I sure do love seeing this faggot ass nigger imba characters every game!
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>>577810579
ur welcome.
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>Play 1 game after not playing for days
>Winning, carrying
>But get annoyed at my retard team
>Win, don't queue for more games
>Close deadlock
The curse is slowly lifting
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>>577809953
that the new rank system, was a mistake
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>>577810579
nerf all of these characters
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>mystic reverb is bad on lash
this reminds me of the people who really desperately tried to convince you that EE was bad on seven a year ago
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mimic disguise spell hero when
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paige buffs when?
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>>577811292
celeste is getting buffed next patch lil guppy.
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https://gamebanana.com/mods/705417
https://gamebanana.com/mods/701111
alright anons here's your fix to calico and haze being ugly, and this game having no tits and ass
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>>577811446
is that peter griffin
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I practice bunny hopping while I'm in queue, and I'm getting pretty good at timing the jumps, but how the fuck do people maintain enough acceleration to go faster than walking? yes, I'm strafing in the direction I'm turning my mouse.
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>>577811639
>need to sign in to view
lame
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>>577809953
no they're not.
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>>577811959
You can't unless you're on Celeste
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This is my Sinclair Spammer tier list of "is it worth picking sinclair this match" based on the enemy heroes
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>>577811959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiXXKnm6Lbg

Petition to have Leif's channel in the OP in the git gud section. Like it or not movement will continue being a big part of this game,
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>>577811959
they're gonna patch out troonhopping soon, so don't bother.
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>>577812209
troonment will just continue to get patched out more and more. cope.
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>>577812198
I feel like abrams should be on 3 unless you're going for stealing it for midboss but that would require too much set up I feel like where you can get punished compared to just buying unstop with dynamo.
Not sure though, never really seen a sinclair do well with an abrams ult.
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>>577811446
Soon.
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>>577812326
brickgod I assure you that 3 years from now people in your rank will have the basics of strafing down and the movement gap between low and high ranks will be much lower
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i love everything about Silver except her ult
a truly godforsaken ability that activates (or doesn't) at the worst time, and makes you three times as large as Abrams with none of the health, healing, or CC to compensate
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>movement tranny thinking that volvo won't patch out bhop cheating soon

oh man i am laffing
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>>577812472
make me horny
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>>577809575
Nothing wrong with that.
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I love everything about Silver, too. sure its worse than human form, but you literally get giga melee scaling on abilities, a free dash, and a disarm what more could you ask for?
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Everything I don't like is trannies.
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>>577812451
I'm in the camp that it's better than most Sinclairs give it credit for, especially since you'll always ahve greater expansion and duration
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we need a fox hero
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i think celeste should've been more like a clown instead of some acrobat prostitute still keep the foot long horsecock, though
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Did they change the replay directory? Cant find em anymore
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>>577812198
pocket ult being lash or dynamo tier is kinda omegalul. no barrage stacks = weak af ult.
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imagine if celeste was a shark girl instead. two big hot dogs instead of one.
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>>577809181
haven't played since february, what are the top 2 broken heroes?
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>>577813307
Wraith and Apollo
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>>577813145
Sinclair always buys boundless every game so it deals decent damage, but that's really only half the benefit, the complete shutdown of all healing makes it a game-winning ult
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>>577806340
wow this hero is shit I can't run into the enemy team solo and win for free anymore
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>>577813307
Celeste, Wraith, Ivy.
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>>577812983
God clown girls just make me diamonds. Celeste needs a clown skin and I'll start maining her and gooning to her
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>dewokifies your graves
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>>577813436
I don't get it, what about the clown does it for you?
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>>577813436
there's a clown mod for celeste but i dont think its still updated anymore
>>577813517
there's no use explaining vision to the blind.
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is the fanart in this thread ironic? because it's all fucking terrible.
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>>577810579
Billy lash bebop do not belong in this list
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>>577812981
Was thinking of an coyote trickster spirit pretending to be a fox/kitsune to manipulate the seven moon clan (Yamato is aware of this but finds it harmless and possibly useful to have around)
Basically it would almost be like calico 3 but you transform when you crouch
You're locked out of shooting while transformed and a lower slide distance but you gain movespeed and are able to fit in tunnels
Also wanted to bring ethereal over from Dota as an ability but I think that you'd probably need to reduce if not remove magic resistance reduction entirely
Gun should be a mare's leg because more lever gun representation is peak
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>"Rem you have no kills or assists"
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>>577814071
Post fan art you think is good
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>>577814249
I like this one (NTA) its spooky
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>>577814169
>"Rem, those are our sinners."
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>>577812042
there's two versions
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>>577814249
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>>577809575
>valve makes a trashy woman that's right up my alley
>people are desperate to pretend she has a cock
shit's unironically worse than the pocket enby discourse
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>>577812146
but isn't bhopping still a thing in cs and tf2? and this is the same engine?
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>>577814423
Its only going to get worse with these new characters
t.knower
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>>577814423
why even is that? there's no way she has a penis she's wearing a skintight leotard if she had a massive wee wee the bulge would be so obvious
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>>577814423
bro they made her a unicorn radiating soraka energy. ofc she has a foot long.
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>>577814423
Futaniggers were god's original mistake
They're a menace and a plague on every game they infest
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>>577811639
Why do these mods always go for the big gross monkey ass and NO pubes?
>Yeah bro what if instead of a naked woman it looked like a cheap sex doll modelled after bogged out celebrities?
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>>577812209
ok I may be turning my camera too far I didn't know it was such a small angle.
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>>577814508
She's magic, she doesn't have to explain how she tucks it.
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>>577813626
i downloaded it manually and uploaded it to the mod manager and it still works even now. it also came with her footsteps being the squidward walking noise which is funny
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>>577811639
>>577814327
ugly grease slop
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item rework patch??
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>>577814508
She's a unicorn. Of course she's using magic to hide a VERY big secret.
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>>577814750
>how do we make this character not ugly? (haze isnt even ugly btw)
>i know make her look nothing like the character and give her giant boobs
funny people dont realise you're exactly the same as those people who go "how do we make character diverse? i know make her black and ugly"
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>>577814327
>>577814750
there's gay porn that's less gay than this.
pure AGP on display here.
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people say Haze is OP then I see others call her one of the worst in the game. which is it?
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>>577814767
october
then jungle in november
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>>577814872
She's OP against shitters. Garbage against decent players.
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I like a nice sexy mod every now and then but shit like this is just retarded.
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>>577814872
Think Graves
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>>577814995
Man i really wish the item update comes out earlier and not in fucking october when the ranked season ends. The ranked update was good but it wasn't really content.
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>>577814872
Haze is an IQ test she's the tutorial of 'Counter buy' bullet dance is so easily countered by metal skin or even warpstone but people refuse to buy it and get killed by BD 9 times in a row
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>>577814750
>>577814864
>>577814842
gamebanana.com/mods/647730
here's a better haze
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>>577814995
Jungle doesn't need an update.
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>>577814842
>you're exactly the same as those people who go
What? I am saying the mod looks like shit.
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>>577815153
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>>577815171
well too bad because it's getting one anyway, tranime spammer
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>>577815189
Sorry anon i didnt specifically mean you I mean people that unironically install shit like that
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>>577815031
spawn a bot and check the inside of the model
it's FULLY MODELED
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>>577814249
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>>577815243
Oh okay.
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>>577814249
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>>577815231
It isn't. Also, anime website so GTFO tourist.
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Paige is built for b...
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Silver's death noise is very erotic, I imagine that is what she sounds like in bed
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>>577815481
Big Blue Cock
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>>577814423
Futafags spam it with Silver too "duh huh she gets a pingas when she transforms!". Degenerates can't stop thinking about animal genitals. Everyone knows Silver has a cookie
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I don't remember this general being quite this dogshit earlier this year.
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Silver has a small human penis while in human form. Her girlfriend Celeste likes to tease her about it in bed.
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>>577815630
That uma musushit poster just wont fuck off
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>>577815630
>>577815685
Aww, is the sharty tourist having a melty?
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start buying Veil Walker on Vindicta
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Walker stomp delay was a good nerf to doorman kidnap but why does it exist at all? Just stop letting them do it. It's shit
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>>577815684
she's just like me
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>>577815784
you're also dating celeste and have a small penis?
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Remember when this used to be considered cool and novel?
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are horses really worse than a model with 10 polygons and a recycled geist?
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DAE Eskay lowk hot af
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>>577815928
man the old camera was so shit it was like up your ass the one amazing change they did desu
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>>577815984
it was so much worse around viscous release. you couldn't see half of the screen while playing mo
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>>577815961
No one gives a fuck about your normalfag tourist infested gacha faggot. Go back 2reddit.
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Yes, any gachashit is an unforgivable sin (except maybe pulchra, but only while you're on e6)
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>>577816068
ye i never noticed how shit it was desu
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>pocket barrage cancel bug still in the game
>bebop range stats not showing visible increase with trophy collector stacks bug still in the game
>300 of doorman's various door bugs are still in the game
>parries still have little to no risk to spam while people who heavy melee are severely punished and get gangraped immediately, meaning any non-melee hero melee builds are just grief builds
>can't even jump over graves' grasping hands ability without it pulling you back down into its gravitational force 30 feet above it
>most AoE abilities still have bullshit ass vertical height hitboxes that do NOT align with their visual appearance in range
>the cancerous amount of heroes who have been given free escape tools to their base kit, so to compensate the devs have to pump cancerous amounts of cc into the game. so if you're not a character who has a hypermobile escape tool or extremely OP cc abilities, your character's going to be N/A for most of the match
>"yeah let's nerf venator's sprint speed speed (a character with no escape tools/hypermobility) instead of making his kit actually fun to use, surely that will get people to play as him more(???)"
>"yes instead of reworking doorman we're just going to playdough band-aid nerf him into the most inoffensive version of himself so reddit can actually tolerate him instead of fixing any of his core issues. also nerf his kidnap walker build, oop wait we didn't actually nerf anything we're just that incompetent at playtesting the game lol. kidnapping is still fully viable mb"
>"UHHHHHH MM UPDATE IS COMING ALONG JUST FINE. FUCK FUCK FUCK ITEM REWORK UPDATE IS COMING ALONG UHHHHH CONTENT UPDATE IS ALMOST HERE GUYS, HAHAHA... I KNOW WE'VE FUCKED UP BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US WE NEED TO TRAIN OUR EOMM ML MO- I MEAN WE NEED TO COLLECT MORE OF YOUR DATA TO MAKE THE MOST FUN GAME VER HAHAHA NO ULTERIOR MOTIVES HAHA IT'S NOT LIKE WE CONDONE GAMBLING OR ADDICTION OF ANY KIND IF IT BENEFITS US HAHA"
The absolute state of volvo
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Kill all gachafags. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Uma is deadlock culture.

Plus soloq MOBAs are gachas you pay for with your time.
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>>577816090
>>577816130
>>577816164
/qa/ lost. /pol/ lost. Go back.
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>>577816206
only thing /vmg/ won is the wasted most money award
go back there instead of bringing your offtopic shit here
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>>577816154
>surely that will get people to play as him more
he has one of the highest pick rates already doe
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>>577816154
TRVTH. FVCKING. NVKE.
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>>577816326
YOUR posts are what's off-topic, tourist.
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>The single asian male in the game
>Make him a NB LGBT fag
You know what maybe those asian men who freak out over the smallest shit are in the right.
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>>577816401
we sure about that?
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>>577816568
Venator genuinely is terrible right now btwbeit, throw pick.
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>>577816130
youtube.com/watch?v=C77cIP0XeOY
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>>577816539
If it makes you feel any better it's literally just his pronouns, you can tell the devs wanted him to be this cool ass edgy masc guy, but since their pronoun placeholders just sorta stuck for him, they now have to bend the knee or face the wrath of american politics sadly
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>>577816568
wait what the fuck, he never dipped below 40% from his release all the way to july
he bombed from 46% all the way to 28% after three weeks of ranked?? kek
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>>577816645
And where in my post or in picrel was I stating otherwise...?
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>>577814515
only a foot?
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>enemy team has 3 game winning ults
>"Finally a sinclair on my team this game's free"
>
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>>577816154
Kinda off topic but I HATE that they allowed pocket to dash in Barrage half of the skill of using it was getting cool momentum to do it like wall jumping off a wall and doing it
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>>577816724
Hero just sucks right now, every other carry except Warden is better.
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how does yoshi justify having characters with permanent stack mechanics that can snowball an entire 35 minute match just because some faggot in one of your other lanes happens to feed them 5 min in? is this what good game design looks like?
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>>577816984
someone on your team fed a vindicta, didn't they
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>>577816923
yeah i dont know where these sinclairs are coming from desu i dont know how you get killed SO MUCH on a character with so much escape tools
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Grey talon seems okay
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You are playing brawl.
not interested.
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>>577816195
Damn imagine if Steam wasn't woke now, we'd get cute characters like that without needing mods
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>>577816984
a drifter stack is literally just 1 statue boon
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>>577816923
70% of sinclairs are trolling retards but sometimes you will get a HERO solo carries the game
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>>577817017
they fed a vindicta, drifter, and victor
i'm the only mother fucker who bought disarming hex and i'm the fucking carry
this game is so exhausting
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Crazy how even the official valve deadlock discord is ran by fur tranny literal pedos

genuinely what the fuck is wrong with zoomers
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>>577817316
>Pretending this is a generational mental illness
lmao
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>>577817363
it's either a zoomer denying reality or a millennial denying reality
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>>577817316
FurGOD game sorry retard frog poster
I am personally directing icefrog to add two more furry heroes next batch so you kill yourself
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>>577817316
when someone becomes a valve fan, a coin is flipped.
you either start taking HRT or start heiling hitler
this phenomenon has been seen occurring in every valve title, from dota, tf2, and counter strike.
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>>577817316
How can you think it's crazy that a Discord is ran by troons, it'd be more shocking if a tranny wasn't a mod in the server
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>>577817316
>discord for X
>ran by fur tranny pedos
don't look up the company behind groomcord...
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now that TI is almost over can we get the update please
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>>577817553
TI hasn't even started
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>>577817553
>>577814995
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>>577817553
They were only starting to test PVE last week it's genuinely not until October
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>>577817316
That's old news, the ex-mod Uglycoal is furry that does pedo shit.

Unless there is more of them!?
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>>577816724
>>577816568
He's never been at a particularly high winrate.
The problem is that the design of so many heroes is so simplistic and braindead that in 99% of the cases there's just a better option that does the same shit but...better
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Item update end of this month.
Major update end of October.
A little surprise on 4th of November.

-Y
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>>577818069
Holy shit EOS confirmed!?
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How many characters do (you) have unlocked for ranked?
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>>577818260
None I keep playing new characters and making meme builds for the broken op ones
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>Walking up the Mina and looking her up and down and giving a subtle look of disgust and walk away
I'm a nobody but she will remember me for all eternity.
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>>577818260
0. I only pick random and haven't been playing that long
I've got most everyone a few games away from unlocking
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>>577817115
>additive vs. multiplicative buffs
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>>577818260
I think like 15 of them?
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I'll confess that, while I have played enough dynamo to have him unlocked for ranked, I haven't played that much of him. I'll also confess that I have pretty much exclusively played as a stompfag
after this game of actually focusing on ult, I am now aware of how hard I've been throwing. I mean I knew, but I didn't KNOW. not even silver could steal victory away from these ults
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>>577818260
4
Victor, Billy, Silver, Warden
I can't be arsed to unlock the rest even if sinclair would go hard
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>>577817363
a lot of trannies are extreme gay pedos who were indoctrinated into EPI by the internet from a young age
let's not forget that it's degeneracy is what makes a tranny a tranny in the first place, okay?
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>>577817494
well I hate them and hope they die suddenly and self inflicted without taking anyone with them
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>>577818398
which one is better
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apollo's riposte should target the hero that triggered it, why the fuck does he get to choose
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Why does Doorman want to play Destiny 2 so bad?
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>>577818787
He wants to grind eurpoa lost sectors to get some ammo and orb generating builds
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>>577817712
b...but the rat leak was a month ago
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>>577816646
damn maid costumes are the best fuck these faggot ass seattle dwellers
>shit that will never exist in deadlock
going to be a sad day when mods get banned
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>>577817712
>PvE
no way valve is going to handle a fork of a game when they cant even develop one part of it
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>>577817316
Ever wonder why most indie games are full of fag shit?
It's because these devs make these Discords to help out with testing and development and trannies latch themselves onto any Discord they can find to turn it into a breeding ground. They then just do nothing but sit in the Discord all day because of mental illness and spread their fucking diseased thinking to younger people.

Discord is the breeding ground of mental illness because it basically gives people who sit online 24/7 with no hobby or job to indoctrinate younger dumber people.
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>>577818747
>nerf this dogpoop ability even more please because im bad
Brickgawd
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I'm thinking we behead all graves players
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>you can only shoot soul orb if it lights up and not if its black
>you only have 100ms grace time to shoot it
>human reaction time is 200ms
>so you have to memorize the timing to shoot the soul orb to confirm it, meaning you have to shoot it when its still black and right before it lights up
what a shit system, just make it light up 100ms earlier for the favored team....
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>>577814872
she's like riki. she can only hard carry against n00bs.
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>>577819531
>>human reaction time is 200ms
holy fucking unc
don't forget your prune juice
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>>577818260
Just out of brickchad status. Drifter, Mina, Celeste, Silver, Yamato, Haze and Vindicta

3 wins away from having Graves, and 13 wins away from having Victor (went 2/2 using a build some guy posted here)

My winrate on the horse is atrocious and she's my favorite while my winrate on Vinny is like 60% or whatever (can't check the stats right now, it's something like 170 games - 75 wins on Celeste, 120 games - 75 wins on Vinny). Got better on the horse recently, once I started rushing carpet and mercurial magnum, but still not amazing.

Diagnose me /dlg/.
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>>577819529
>tosses skulls at you
>forces you to play plants vs. zombies until you get ricochet
u mad?
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>>577819442
it's broken, he gets to fly across the lane to whoever dared plinking him instead of the people he's actually fighting, then gets a free 1v1 with a stunned opponent
so it's either he ripostes the actual ability that triggered it OR it doesn't work on bullet hits
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>>577819594
this game is played by 30 year old white trans men. deal with it lil gup
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>>577818260
stop posting this pic
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borgor
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>>577818260
these ones
I have the most games on haze from early alpha and I don't even play her anymore
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>>577819748
>when i was a young boy
>named darcy
>masculine nose
graves is trans.
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>>577819690
So just counterspell it, its one of the more telegraphed stuns
Are you gonna call phantom strike Abrams broken too? He can also stun you for free
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>>577819531
Haven't even had to think about denying in one million hours of playtime despite being a washed arthritic 3000ms reaction time unc you might be the problem
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>>577819852
>Are you gonna call phantom strike Abrams broken too?
NTA, but are you living under a rock?
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>>577819852
>just use your single best defensive tool against this 10s cd infinite range stun
and yes phantom strike is broken, the telegraph is a 0.1s bright flash and then you're on the ground, disarmed, and slowed, on top of whatever bullshit the hero is doing to you, but at least it can be dispelled
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every time I try to give this general a chance I'm reminded why I stop showing up.
way too much agp here.
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>>577816724
people finally realized what wraith can do so why pick a worse carry at every point in the game
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>>577820021
>way too much 4chan culture here.
Why don't you leave for good?
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I think I did a good job with my support Abrams build
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>>577819531
>>so you have to memorize the timing to shoot the soul orb to confirm it,
you mean... you have to learn? AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE HELP MEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>577819987
riposte is also his only defensive tool, once he lunges towards you then a single slowing hex literally deletes him from the game
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOWING HEX IS NOT IN MY L>R
i knew that, dont worry brickgawd
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how am I supposed to remember what all the items in this game do
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>>577820326
By buildcrafting and playing bot matches to understand what roles you can fulfill
Purple is spirit related builds
Green is health related builds revolving around base health, life stealing, and mitigations against status and damage types
Orange is gun related focusing on your M1 but providing other synergys such as bonus spirit damage on your initial shot or silencing people
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>durr just play this and that character if you can't aim
>play dynamo
>20% accuracy 4% headshot rate
So tired of shootanslop. When are they adding aim assist? It WILL happen eventually.
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epic
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>>577814327
This is a gooner VRChat streamer model, it has nothing to do with deadlock
>>577818260
Zero, I randomed most of the time, so I have several heroes close, but not any one at the moment
>>577819713
Why? Wenduag is beat girl
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is a casual bullet lifesteal on haze even worth it? I plan to upgrade it to vampiric burst eventually, but it's pretty low priority in my t4 list of items.
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>>577820574
that's something you decide per game when you are high iq and not gay
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>>577813307
victor and graves
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>>577820574
If you are ricing and not ganking, having a little source of lifesteal is good, so you don't lose tempo on camps with big guys. Active Reload is usually enough. If you are ganking you're going to have fury trance.
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>>577820529
According to statlocker this is ~top 500. How bad does it smell up there?
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>>577820713
I hate the furry trans item. every time I try it I hate it. mask of madness is only fun in dota because I can take my hands off the keyboard when I use it.
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>>577820785
Do you still hate it when I do THIS?
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>>577820273
>only defensive tool
>1 escape + slow
>3 moving him all over the place
>4 invuln + escape
you're retarded so I know you won't understand how a 3.5s debuff when ttk is well over double that until lategame is useless for anything but running away
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>>577820852
I'm a wizard. sirens have no effect on me.
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>>577820120
>censoring names but not the match ID
when you sleep leave your door unlocked, it'll save us the trouble
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>>577820714
I was e6 before the ranking reset and the games feel more competitive than before, but not really any harder or easier, it just feels like more of the players want to win
it's maybe a little easier because the super pro people have grinded past everyone else to rush to ascendant/eternus but that's it
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Odds I get the naked abrams mod and jerk off to him
Evens I get the naked lash mod and jerk off to him
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>>577820852
they probably should make it a feminine icon seeing as only haze builds this item

such a stupid idea making an item only a single hero can properly use
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>>577820978
because there are less wide mmr party shitters every game feels fair

the amount of stupid fucks in phantom that queue solo after being boosted by their eternus friends was insane, now they're all bitching about being stuck in old archon lmao
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>>577820946
Noooooooooooo please dont rape me
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>>577820946
brickgawd...
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I have never touched a single public build in my life, I created all of my builds myself and got to Ascendant 3 pre-mm update and was still climbing.
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>>577820995
people are buying it on venator too now that it gives fleetfoot.
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>start getting higher in ranked
>start seeing more and more counterbuilding
not even complaining about enemy teams, my team does it too
And I look at this shit and think,”Damn, this isn’t fun that every team fight, people just dispel or unstoppable or plate or decay or slowing or whatever else someone’s entire kit”
Like yeah your skill CD’s are lower than counterspell or whatever else, but damn it just is so unfun to not only have it happen to you, but to see it happen to others
I think I’m going to go back to baby ranks and not bother with attempting the grind since there’s such diminishing returns
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>>577821053
yeah honestly i think the overall vibe of the game matters a lot too and ranked has helped with that, like if you can tell your team is trying to win then losing doesn't feel as bad
and the most insufferable fags were always on alt accounts somehow too
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>>577821254
stonecope
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>>577821175
congrats on being able to read item descriptions
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>*Drifter spreads your cheeks*
>"LETS SEE WHAT YO BOOTY HOLE LOOKS LIIIKE"
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>>577821348
God I wish
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>get the same player 4 games in a row
>griefs and feeds in every single one
>reports do nothing
>no avoid function, nothing
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>>577821424
don't ask for an avoid function, they'll just copy dota and make it a paid subscription that's limited to 25 retards
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>>577821424
unironically your fault for not queue dodging after the first one
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>>577821505
I literally waited 15 minutes after the second one
Didn't matter
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Sometimes I get matches where I get wegied and embarrassed by the enemy team and so does everyone else in my team
Some other matches we are neck to neck and it takes one rejuv push to determine who wins
Overall im having a way better pvp experience than I usually do
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I wish Calico never became meta she is cancer
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I do not enjoy playing against any character
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>>577821263
that's a big one, alt faggots cant just make new accounts every time they get low prio so griefing reports matter
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do you think eido will go trans like pocket
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>>577822072
stop talking about ecelebs and they'll go away

we dont have to care about retards playing an autistic game harder than everyone else
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>>577821263
After playing 30 games of ranked, I can confidently say on average the quality of games is better
No alt/smurfs
No people first timing a hero and going 0/10
Did have a few people trolling with a gun rem or tilting but those were outliners
Most games felt close, had a few crazy ones where we managed to win despite the enemy having a 30kish lead or had generally dominated the early/mid game.
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Getting a 3 man pin into a fat full charge melee on Abrams just activates my monkey brain. I just can't get enough of it. Why would play the fucking Victor cosplay build over punch Abrams?
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Who'd be a better drinking buddy, vyper or abrams?
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>>577822338
vyper is the fun foolish drunk, abrams is the clumsy slur spammer drunk.
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>>577822338
If you drink with Vyper there's a good chance you'll end up in tomorrow's newspaper. So Abrams. Just don't bring up the tome and you're good.
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>>577822338
Vyper because there's a chance I'd smash after she gets tipsy.
Abrams if I'm not horny at that moment.
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>577822072
no but most likely become a political commie tuber after bubbling in esports
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>>577809181
Does opening rounds bullet velocity stack with sharpshooter?
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>>577822979
every bullet velocity item stacks, but not multiplicatively
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>>577818260
0
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What do I not understand about Venator? When I fight him, he rapes my ass, deletes my HP bar in 2 seconds, wall stuns me every single time with the shotgun, outright kills me in 1 shot with his ult. When I play him, it doesn't matter how many gun items I buy and if I shoot a dude 400 times in a row I barely tickle them. If I even hit them with the shotgun they never get wall stunned. When I use the ult I don't ever deal as much damage as I've taken. I also can not fucking stand that his ult has like a 1/4th second delay on it, when you shoot, the shot doesn't come out for just that 1/4th second and it causes me to miss so often it drives me insane.
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>>577823146
What did he mean by this?
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>>577818739
nta, assuming these work like they do in most games they are both valuable. additive adds to your flat which is then multiplied by your multiplicative. you want a large flat to get more out of the multiplicative
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>>577823501
buying every bullet velocity item further increases your gun's velocity, but there's diminishing returns
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>>577822979
yes
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>>577823146
>>577823669
>>577823716
Huh?
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>knockdown on vindicta
>she uses counterspell
>yamato hook her
>debuff removes it
>full charge power slash, did 30% of her hp
>then hook in
>does 1.9k damage while I'm hooking into her while I'm 4k souls above
Nigger whats the fucking point of this hero
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>>577823848
>does 30% of her health in one hit
>can refresh and do it again
>unlimited grapple works if they even dream of escaping
peelow post
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>>577823848
blame whoever fed her stacks, in the same way you'd blame whoever fed a drifter
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>>577823848
Or you could just press P-strike, then charge/into a wall/combo and that vindicta is done
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>>577824302
>*buys indomitable*
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>>577824326
>*buys silence wave for half the price*
tick tock blue woman
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>>577824160
It was oracle 5
Also
>>does 30% of her health in one hit
Except I have to charge it and she has to be in range despite being a high range character
>can refresh and do it again
And then I'm missing 40% of her hp still
>unlimited grapple works if they even dream of escaping
You only get 1-2 more now, there's cooldown in between, she debuff removed one and again it doesn't stop her from nuking my entire fucking hp bar while being behind on souls through a handful of green items.

Shut up nigger.
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>>577824326
>>577824396
Anon...
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>>577824326
I love going through these hypotheticals for the umpteenth time in these threads, they always have enemy vindictas with 12k+ greens (in addition to all the attack items she's killing you with) and absolutely nothing on your team, because that's how itemization works
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>>577824445
>because that's how itemization works
It kinda is because everything in this shitty game gives good damage even if it's something like counterspell.
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>>577824412
are you just bored of posting gore or ranting about gooner tranny whatever
the vindicta is op thing is just weird, work a different angle
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>phantom strike procs indomitable
absolute state of this thread
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>>577824412
>oracle 5
like i said, pisslow.
consider not standing still and channeling an ability directly infront of the gun character and providing her free headshots for her entire magazine.
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>>577823848
yamato is ass now and vindicta has the waifu mafia that will jump on you for talking about her
same as silver and mina downplayers
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>>577823480
Like any m1gger you should always be ahead in souls from hoovering farm collecting city camps off cooldown by 20min this extra farm stacks to a big advantage. Abuse headshots for his proper item build procs. Stop spamming clicks anticipating when the crossbow reload ends. The shot itself is instant and the range is fucking infinite you should be using it to rape their DPS not on fucking tanks. Counter frontline tank pressure with movement and look beyond them to crossbow their DPS unless they completely pussy out then turn on the tank. Go into the range and practice how much damage his crossbow deals at different points in the build or boon count it's almost as abusable as Wraith ult + card spam. Go watch a couple matches of a competitive player using Ven.
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>>577824525
no one here plays the game anon, they just jerk off to furry/lesbian porn and make shit up to get mad about
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PS destroys Vindicta but because the common consensus is that "you just build knockdown" almost no one knows the playerbase are literal sheep that cant think for themselves PS MASSACRES Vindicta and if more than one person on your team buys it Vindicta literally cannot play the game but yeah buy knockdown dood your L > R says it works so it must
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>>577824495
shit, look at all that big dam, a whole fucking 5 spirit power across 12k worth of items
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Haven't been in the thread for a while so dunno if anybody mentioned this, but apparently Valve has hired the guy who made these.
At least there is gonna be some hope that the remodels will eventually happen.
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>>577824878

I hope so. One update is a shop update, so I assume they will use that update to facelift a bunch of assets
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>>577824878
>8 months to hire some autistic guy who works with blender to redo already existing heroes
big if true, but what about actual game updates valve
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>>577814445
bhopping has been nerfed a million times in Counter-Strike over the years.
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Just had a wraith nearly grief a game by splitpushing the base turrets or whatever you call them at 15 minutes
Like what the fuck man, do wraith mains even think?
This is high oracle btw so its not new player stuff
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>>577824878
are they really lacking in manpower that badly, that they didn't even have anyone left to do the remodels until now?
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>>577825421
I don't know man, I hate to think that Valve's flat company structure fucks everything up this badly but I don't know what else could be causing it.
My source is twitter scuttlebutt so you might want to take it with a grain of salt, but I don't know why the modder would lie about it. He's done modelling work for other games before but I imagine it's just contract work or something. If he landed a real position at Valve he's probably set for life, though.
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>>577825406
like repeatadly or just once or twice? thats making a lot of space
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>>577824878
The remodels are already mostly done they're just hiring people to churn out cosmetic slop.
t. it came to me in a dream
>>577825421
From what I understand there's a lot of overlap between DotA and Deadlock teams, and it's not like DotA is abandoned.
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>>577825170
Does it matter, it's gonna be a horribly balanced mess as always
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>>577824878
This guy's work is gross. His vyper remodel is the worst fanart I've seen of her and everything else has been extremely ugly
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Wraith's gameplay is literally look at someone shoot and mash 1 to do 9999 damage a second with a free escape and she still hasn't been meaningfully nerfed lol
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>>577825884
This? As somebody who thinks that lazy XCOM naga concept is really boring I kinda like this. I don't think they're gonna be able to come up with a good snakebody model that will animate in a way that doesn't look all fucked up and I like Vyper's salamander body she has now.
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our mo and krill we were struggling against in laning and both feeding left our lane to go to middle and I followed him there, ulted and killed him and told him no leaving my lane
felt good
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>>577826103
Oh god, those low-set eyes make her look like an utter retard. I love it. Unlike the official WIP this actually looks like Vyper, I can imagine this inbred looking creature talking about how Wisconsin hooch is top-notch.
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>>577826103
This isn't bad, for a WIP anyway
Could use further refinement but damn, can't believe this guy is working at valve
Do you think he applied or did they poach for him
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>>577824878
cringe
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>>577826334
I doubt we'll ever know, I have a friend who ended up getting a job doing linux testing for Valve and his NDA allows him to say very little.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>577826442
>and his NDA allows him to say very little.
You can thank Tyler whatshianame for stalking valve devs 24/7
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>>577825884
>>577826335
>Porn addicts when a female doesnt look like the coomerslop females from his F2P Korean MMO that goes EOS 6 months after release
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>>577826514
Most companies have ndas in place regardless of whether they have a Tyler McNigger type figure or not
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>dumpster enemy team
>some guy starts whining about tryharding in ranked
lol
>>
IT'S
TIME
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DONT QUEUE UP ON EU IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR SINNER'S STOLEN IM PLAYING REM TODAY
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>>577824705

Yeah PS is just a really broken. You can shut down a lot of m1 heroes with it.
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>>577827087
*ends up donating 4k worth of souls to the enemy team over the course of the match*
thank you Rem you're my greatest ally
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PStrike Doorman. Trust.
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>>577827228
only 4k?
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Hope we get Saxxy's for Deadlock.
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>>577826745
bro the porn addicts designed silver mina graves
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I want to sex Paradox (with coat on)
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>>577827087
>>577827228
Had a graves yesterday farm our doubles while rift was up and then went mid after we all died after she baited us just to donate the 1300 bag she got from baiting us in the first place. She did something like this 3 more times and one other teammate of mine also said something at some point "this graves has donated 5k in soul bags alone this game". She had like 3 assists. Why do retards like that play this game and how do they get oracle?

Anyway I was just impressed it wasn't a rem doing that stupid shit for once, it's usually a rem
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>>577828032
Oh hey I remembered their name here's a treat of a game they had, didnt even use egg before the game ended. Amazing
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is matchmaking broken atm?
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>>577827914
Silver is generic as fuck, shows little skin, doesn't have many curves, and her wolf form isn't sexualised at all. Its just the irony poisoned "mommy" shit normies latch on to.
Mina true.
Graves has too many cool little skull motifs and such, and again lacks curves or skin. People liking goths doesn't make her a porn brained design, especially since she lacks much black, or piercings, her makeup is mild, and the large nose + sharp chin isn't traditionally hot.
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i wish blacks in real life were cool like infernus
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>>577815928
it was never cool it was always cringe and a subversion of the actual game

it's a big problem with deadlock in general where positioning is meaningless you just have to hop around like a retard hoping you dont get hit the actual place youre in doesnt matter though
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im not even good at celeste yet but she seems pretty good reading the thread saying she's akshually super weak got me curious and it was just larp as usual
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>>577827914
Was it real in your head?
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>>577828518
She has very strong objective contest and teamfight but is middling in any other situation like 1v1s
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>>577828526
>>577828214
silver captures furry fags
celeste captures chaser trans fags
graves captures pedo fags

Q E D valve has made a gooner game
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>>577828518
>thread saying she's akshually super weak
Half of the previous thread was crying about how op she is
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>>577828661
like 2 days ago i was reading the thread and people were saying how she's bad and eternus players just don't know how to play around her (lol)
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>>577828641
Projecting
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>>577828518
rank is a product of games played not skill
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>>577828518
I have no problem killing her as all of my heroes : drifter apollo shiv bebop

She isnt that crazy but if youre bad and dont play for pickoffs I guess she can fly around and delete you.
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>>577828518
She's a mobile hypercarry with infinite healing
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Can a humble support boy get a gz
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>>577828698
that's interesting, how many ranked games have you played and what is your rank and also what was your rank before the reset out of curiosity
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>>577828518
I eat shit on Celeste a lot, but she's very very strong if you play into what she's good at. Namely, mobility and melting people with spirit and fire rate buffs, plus her ult. She just isn't a frontliner and melts if people start hitting her with slowing hex (it sets her gravity to a specific, awful level) and just targeting her. She tends to have a weak-ass lane phase and really take off once you buy 25-30k worth of stuff (for me it's Carpet, Mercurial Magnum and Spellslinger). Overall, you just have to leverage her turbomobility, keep in mind hat you're weak early, and try to farm your way to an advantage.

An upside of Celeste is, just like Vindicta, she's very annoying and basically a flyer. This draws heat off of your team and has the enemy team waste slots on knockdown. That's a clear benefit even if you end up unable to contribute immensely.
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>>577828789
BUY SPIRITUAL OVERFLOW
DO IT DO IT DO IT
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Speaking of Celeste, when the fuck are other characters getting the same amount of effort and care towards their animations as she has?!
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>>577828789
>waste slot on knockdown
how is knockdown a wasted slot even without enemy fliers? On demand stun for chases, getaways, channel interrupts, its a good item even outside of slapping GR/Vin/Celeste.
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>>577828751
Congrats, but I doubt a support cuck can win that much. You're an initiator
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>>577828774
phantom 2 -> emiisary 2
played 30 games with 42% wr always the lowest on my team and at emissary 5 now because of the rank protection

deal with it
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>>577829049
I hate wraith and haze so this is a good tier list.
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>>577829123
that's interesting i have 50 games with a 60% winrate for phantom 3 and i was e6 before i guess your hypothesis is incorrect
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>>577829227
thats great, after i get to eternus with a 42% we will be the same skill then
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>after i get to eternus
lmfao
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>>577829096
No, I am a save-focused support chad AND an initiator!
https://files.catbox.moe/uqck6e.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/iysohr.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/3jh4la.webm
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>>577829049
>Doorman
>Honest
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>>577828915
I BUY IT MAN I BUY IT IT'S REALLY GOOD IT JUST NEEDS YOU TO BE GOOD WITH YOUR SHOTS TO PROC OR TO JUST BUY EXPRESS SHOT WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA ANYWAYS AND IT HAS A LOWER EFFECT THAN SPELLSLINGER BUT OVERALL I GET BOTH STOP SCREAMING AT ME
>>577829001
>how is knockdown a wasted slot even without enemy fliers?
Knockdown is very good for the reasons you list, but it is also a slot that could've been a healing or a damage item. Also, if it's bought specifically to counter you, and you make sure to hang around fights at least sometimes, a good chunk of people will keep it specifically to try and down you. Especially if you annoy the fuck out of them, that way it'll be personal and they'll ignore opportunities to catch somebody in favor of trying to catch you. Celeste is annoying, the more you play into it, the greater you could impact the game just by existing in it.
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>>577829049
Frostbitten ginger hands that refuse to fucking die and just leave if a fight gets problematic made this post.
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>play at noon/early afternoon
>games are peak
>play any other time
>games are one sided shit stomps full of retards
what causes this phenomenon? surely peak hours would form the best matches?
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>>577829049
doorman is the least honest hero in the game go back to the drawing board
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>>577829049
is this tier list reversed for comedic effect
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>>577812064
yes, they are. you can have a 20% winrate and literally stay in phantom. they squished the ranks too close together and now eternus players that might've gapped the fuck out of pre patch phantom/ascendants are now forced to play with these retards, mostly against duos.
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>>577829528
>normal people that have a day off of work or on a break from remote play in the afternoon are chill
>angry losers that wake up at 4pm log on
>games get worse
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>>577827228
>>577828032
I TOLD YA'LL DON'T QUEUE UP. I'M THAT NIGGA ON HIS HERO
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Someone turn this into Mo and Krill talking to Vindicta
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>>577809953
I've deranked to emissary 5 three times and gotten 6 derank shields and am about to make oracle. I get why they did this to make people play more but it can't be sustainable, people will just drift upward given enough time everyone will reach eternus
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>>577829623
yeah it literally feels like 4 pm onwards and the games just turn to shit. look at this.
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stamina mastery should have dash slow resistance
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>>577829808
I wonder when valve will realise that handing someone statistical retards and forcing losses 4-5 games in a row is just not fun.
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grey talon trap and bird should not be invulnerable. they should have HP so you can shoot it out of the sky if you're accurate enough. it should scale based on his own max HP. kelvin dome should be punchable and actively start to crack the more heavy melees it's received. maybe like 6 punches?
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>>577830135
The heavy melee thing on ice dome I can maybe get behind but disabling the bird I disagree with.
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i wish i lived in eruope and could just play deadlock all day and never work
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>>577830135
I despite Kelvin and breaking the dome sounds good, maybe with it taking less punches if you bought melee items, but this should be compensated in some way to make it a fair nerf. I don't know what a Kelvin would appreciate as a compensation, as I am not sufficiently homosexual.
>>577830393
There's basically no counterplay to the bird besides last-second dodging and praying the Gary Talon trying to kill you is bad at it. Something should be done.
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>>577830135
I think it's kind of weird that you can shoot Venator's traps but not Grey Talon's when his curse traps are stronger and with a bigger aoe.
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Is there not a sub forum for feedback on existing items?
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>>577830523
>no counterplay
Sometimes the fucked up thing is core to a character. Assuming Talon isn't throwing the bird from base or by himself in an alleyway your teammate in that lane can disrupt him while he's steering, or you can just try and counterspell the bird. There are tons of heroes in this game that have completely fucked up ults where the only real solution to meet them is counterspell. It feels like it's practically this game's BKB.
>>577830576
You're right, you shouldn't be able to shoot Ven traps either.
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>>577830523

>no counterplay to bird

Have you tried not getting your ass kicked?
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>>577830576
both should be invisible and untargetable but limited to 2 bear traps and 1 curse trap
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>>577830992
The primary issue I have is specifically drone operator build Gary Talons who launch birds out of their base.
>Sometimes the fucked up thing is core to a character
Oh, I recognize that, I play Vindicta to great effect. It's just that for most fucked up things there's a clear way to survive or deal with it. Vindicta you can spam knockdown at, a fed Drifter is always only in one spot, you can go elsewhere and not walk alone, Infernus you can hope somebody lynches IRL, Celeste dies to slowing hex, Haze is counterable even if she buys Magnum to make sure your Metal Skin doesn't help.
The bird is a bird and it can be spammed from across the map; if it's that good, that's fine, but then the rest of his kit could use a gelding to compensate.
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>queue doorman
>get ivy
>disconnect
>log onto different account
>queue doorman
>repeat until doorman game
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>>577831336
k
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>Vyper on my team plays like a retard, hyper aggressive running into the enemy team alone while and me and the rest of the team desperately try to play around his schizo tendencies
>Still somehow carries the game
This hero is fucking DISGUSTING
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I cry every match
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>>577831336
You'd have better luck having your second pick as a common hero like wraith.
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>be unemployed
>playing deadlock
>recruiter hits me up asking when they can call me
>say im available in 15 min (when my match ends)
>no one calls for over an hour
i wanna play ranked man
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>>577830928
if you want devs to hear your feedback, pay an eceleb streamer $200 to make a video about your topic and then post it on reddit
im dead serious
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>be unemployed
>never get any responses on my applications ever despite my Master's
>have to keep playing Deadlock all day
I JUST WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE HELP
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dont know why someone was complaining about billy's charge the other day. horrible move
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same starting rank
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>>577832347
Is it possible you think we'll get a bunch of boosted ascendants and phantoms who are like, emissary skill level cluttering up the ranks?
They really need to make deranks a thing.
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>>577831336
never happened. no one actually plays doorman.
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>>577831892
they already gave your job to an indian it's over
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>>577832786
we don't employ indians over here bro
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>>577831892
lmfao actual addict behavior
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was playing support, actually proud of this statline
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>>577832857
i just stopped 2 games as mo and skill right after waking up im literally holding off on doing anything right now
fuck these kind of people i cant even make food as these calls are 15-30 min
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>>577832854
so you live in oriana, north korea, or antartica
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Do you think the game would be less stompy if they just cut it down to 5v5? I miss there being a solo lane, removing that really strips away a core value of the genre.
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Why do m1niggers go in die ten times and then complain about it despite being alone balls deep in enemy territory?
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>>577833117
there would undoubtedly be less aoe slop dominance. the matchmaking system could conceivably find more quality matches because it's dealing with 2 less players every game. just think of how many times there's just two retards in a game that spoil an otherwise good match up. imagine they just weren't there anymore.
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>>577833117
wouldn't that make it more stompy? have you played lol or dota
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>>577832683
It’s a short season so they won’t have time to cluster but if the same system goes into next season then e1 will be the center of gravity

That’s where it switches to percentile so you have to be better
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>>577833117
Solo lanes are hot dogshit
1v1 has 1 inter-player interaction
2v2 has 6 inter-player interactions
With a 1v1 there's no dynamism or push and pull it's just a question of who wins the matchup and the other guy gets to try and stem the bleeding for 10 minutes
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>>577833268
it's usually tankoids doing that though.
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>>577833348
to be fair it's not like match up never makes duo lanes feel like dog shit. like sometimes people just won't swap and you're now playing into seven as pocket and getting anally cream pied
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Post werewolves who are in urgent need of buffs.
I'll start.
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>>577833441
im honestly amazed how often yamato players die
ulti literally makes you unkillable
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>>577833117
>i miss there being a solo lane
fuck that no that shit was AWFUL your stuff gets denied because your gun sucks and your lane enemy's is better, or you're someone like pocket and you're up against a Grey Talon who stays in the air 90% of the time shooting you with not a damn thing you can do solo lanes were fucking awful also you're going to get 2v1'd because someone on the opposite lane sucks no way I dont miss solo lane not one bit
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>>577833542
Give her 3 stamina and buff her HP scaling so she can tank properly
That's it
Just from that alone she would be somewhat okay
Like why is vyper allowed to have 6 stamina with her maxxed out passive, but silver being a 2 stamina cuck is a MUST?
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>>577833441
any character that requires weaving alt fire and light melees inbetween shit to be viable should be locked until oracle
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>>577833663
you dont use yamato's alt-fire past the laning phase which ends at 8 minutes
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>>577831575
I tried playing Ivy again like a week or two ago and literally every lobby had 3 people wanting to play ivy.
also, I have Haze set on there and I KEEP GETTING HER.
like 80% of the time I queue Doorman (Purp), Haze (White) and then Infernus(White) I just keep getting haze
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>>577833763
if you've never seen express shot on yamato you may be stuck in bricklo
sorry anon
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>>577830928
they nuked every forum aside from bug reporting on the official forums for SOME fucking reason.
genuinely retarded move.
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>>577833560
As a proud melee Yamato brickgod who goes 15-15 usually, her dying is a matter of overcommitment, not great mobility outside of her hook, and her ult actually not making her super-unkillable until last upgrade. Her survivability even then comes primarily from that people are fucking afraid and run away, if they stand their ground a 1v3 is death for her.
Especially if they don't let you heal off of them with your 3 and melee.
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>>577833629
She should have the heal on kill in ult again, without that she becomes completely useless after 15 minutes instead of mostly useless.
She can keep the hp scaling but the ult health increase should be base health so it's affected by greens.
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>>577832701
he is my 2nd most played. first most if you add both of my accounts together.
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>>577833937
you press m1 for that
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>>577834147
furGOD... I kneel...
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>>577833117
they have to reduce the cancer built into characters and items but it's icefrog he's a slop producer
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>>577834147
>cheats
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>>577833629
She’s not a frontline, not yoshis vision
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why does talon himself slow down whenever his snare is triggered? this isn't a complaint post, just wondering
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>>577834292
he entered combat and entering combat turns off sprint
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>>577834292
He enters combat so sprint stops
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>>577814249
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>>577814249
Are there ever any drawfags in these threads?
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>>577834169
literally every pro player ive seen alt fires the ground after grapple, express shot just makes it better
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>>577834543
There's an artist I can bother for art sometimes but this thread is yet to give me a good reason to
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>>577834215
...?
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>>577816724
>get into match
>no wraith
>no wraith ban
>swap wraith
that's why his pickrate is dropping, venators don't want to complete with wraith lategame if the enemy can swap to her
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>>577834543
100% because whenever sloppa gets posted there is a bunch of seethe
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>>577834695
All mods are cheats.
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it took me 1.1k hours to realize krill detaches from mo when they die
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>>577818414
ultbot is always the best because all it takes is one good fight to win the game.
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>>577834543
Yes, I would like to take requests but I feel like I'm not good enough for it and I can't draw anything other than cute girls.
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>>577834719
Nothing has really changed people just finally realized that he’s kinda butt

Part of it is a build issue still imo, his base dps is top 3 but the builds don’t really focus scaling his m1
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>>577834245
She is though.
If you queue her you get placed in a team as if you're a frontliner
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>>577834841
I mained him for a long while and disagree, you get 80% of the ult build benefits with minimal 20% investment, going all in is too much and it’s on cd forever in which time you are useless
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>>577834958
what do you mean? cultist sacrifice, recharging rush, rapid recharge, escalating resilience and crippling headshot are the top5 highest scaling weapon damage items in the game, seeker-kun
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Start doing this
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>>577834956
Pyw?
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>>577835093
Nope, she’s a marksman. Sometimes the mm gives you 1 tank instead of 2 which is probably what you are thinking about


Yamato is also not a tank, she’s labeled assasin
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>>577835220
No. I am talking about the times where we have no tank and a Silver. I don't care about what the API says you can literally just start playing Silver and you'll see this from time to time
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>>577817425
I was going to argue against this than I remembered.
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Man, Bebop is fun, can't wait to unlock him for ranked and get stomped Also look at the S++++ilver
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>>577835286
Again, it’s probably just mm taking a poo and giving you no tank
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>>577835347
>actually those cases doesn't count because it goes against my headcanon
Play the hero. You will see.
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>>577833542
only thing they should buff is her knot size
>>577833560
it's feast or famine. you either get the guy who's 9-0 out of lane on a yamato who just remains unkillable for the rest of the match or you get some guy going 0-4 and then he buys a trophy collector and goes 4-15
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>>577835173
Why isn't he playing Silver, the S+ tier meta defining hero?
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>>577835173
I'm too afraid to spam mina since carrying late is aids and wraith exists.
>don't go late
not in bricklow lol!
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>>577834768
furry mods are based!
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>>577835402
My headcannon is based on more than yours, frontliner is the least popular role and the most likely to go unfilled
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>>577835220
>>577835286
She's labeled as both a marksman and a frontliner, which is strange as she's neither.
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>>577835173
Mina is OP as fuck you just need to buy defensives like curse and e shift
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>>577835525
>can't even spell canon
SAAR. THE DATA SAYS SAAR.
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>>577834768
you're right, my expie Seven mod gives me an unfair advantage because i get to look at this instead of the platehead.
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>>577835539
Source on frontliner label?

>>577835571
I accept your concession
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>>577835336
>0 greens mina
>plated armor paige instead of disarming hex
>0 counter items on anyone
initiate seems fun af
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>>577835680
>I accept your concession
>more headcanons
lmao. Whatever you say, saar. How about you actually try playing the game instead.
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>>577835173
I have no clue how you're meant to kill people on Mina. Spirit nuking with her lovebites doesn't work well enough to let her actually reliably kill people, and to make her survivable in general you seem to have to buy an inordinate amount of greens.
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>>577835336
>1/9 infernus with lowest damage aside from kelvin
how is this even possible on a top3 most broken character
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>>577835882
You're supposed to Rake. Love Bites is mickey
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>>577835821

My thesis evidence:
API labels
Pickrate and presence of said labels

Your thesis evidence:
Anecdotally sometimes you get a silver game with no tank


To reiterate, concessions accepted, shan’t be getting another (you)
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>usually after a couple days of playing deadlock 2 hours carpal tunnel gets so bad typing and clicking hurts
>stretching ice and exercises barely help the only thing that fixes it is not using hand
>already using ergonomic posture and mouse
fucking hate this gay earth
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>>577835759
Yeah, unironically pisslow is fun, kinda infuriating when the "build discoverers" are on your team but it's usually a low stress environment unless you get a russian ape on comms who thinks he is the team captain while going 0/20 on Shiv

>>577835894
No clue, but I do know that every singe one of his deaths was to my Victor
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Bros, Silver is FINALLY and OFFICIALLY not OP!
We did it, lebbid!
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There are 2 types of matches: your team knows how to play, and your team doesn't know how to play. It isn't even about winning or losing, if you're on the team with teammates that don't know what to do, how to do it, what they should be doing, etc, you've already lost. It's just that simple.

I mean I guess that is a brain dead take but it is just so obvious when you're on the team that knows what to do. Coordination is effortless, team calls from anyone is responded too with accurate info (eg: midboss call after 2 down). They back up when they should without having to be told to do so. They actually use their skills correctly to help team fights and not just panic-press buttons. The game is actually fun and engaging and not just a rage inducing slog where you think to yourself "what the fuck is my team doing" all game.

Genuinely think the matchmaking is rigged; you couldn't convince me otherwise.
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>>577829705
ive thought about this too. I have 5 Shields at Ritualist 1. With a winstreak I gain even more points. Theres basically no way to not climb, no? With a 50% winrate you will gain more from winstreaks than you lose with lossstreaks so if I play long enough I will just climb.
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>>577836240

Seen an interview with him and was a little lacking in the critical thinking department, just like eido he’s carried by mechanics
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>>577836240
I've heard enough, Nerf Warden's gun by 0.000001%
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>>577835989
Show me the raw code to pull the labels from the API using e.g. FastAPI.
>pickrate
Means literally nothing.

Here's a picture from a random streamer playing Silver that I remembered from a day back. Where's the frontliner here, exactly?
Retarded jeet.
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>>577834093
I think the opposite, her heal/refresh on kill should be scrapped entirely and replaced with a massive defensive boost in wolf form, like unironically just -30% damage taken or something (not resist)
That way she wouldn't need to go full green in all her builds which would already be a buff
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>>577836240
>worst hero in the game
>good
What is wrong with these people, why does Valve listen to them?
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>>577836240
Finally I can play Silver with clear consciousness... She is no longer OP... Thank you for allowing me to finally play my character, Pro players!
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>>577829705
>>577836342

Yes it’s intended, a pseudo progression system and then eternus is regular ranking system


It’s dishonest
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>>577812198
celeste ult is genuinely terrible and an idiot check to steal
it's way too nerfed at this point and you do not have lockdown to set it up
you will explode to any good player if you walk into their face like celeste does to set it up
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>>577836240
When will we be free of these washed up retards? I can't wait for real money to be involved in Deadlock so that these people get phased out and yes I am not kidding when I say this. We will regard this as the dark ages of Deadlock in 5 years.
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>>577819531
Maybe it's my imagination but there seems to be a slight grace period when securing vs denying. If you prefire or time properly there's no chance to be denied a trooper soul. This might be ping related.
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>>577836413
The heal on kill allowed her to go high gun low green as well, high risk high reward.
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>>577836378
>streamer
>probably high rank so thinnest population mm pool
>doesn’t get the least popular role


Take statistics bro, you need it
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>>577836370
>
>Seen an interview with him and was a little lacking in the critical thinking department
They're trying to make careers out of playing Deadlock. They arguably already make a bank by streaming and shit. They will fellate every Valve's and Yoshi's decision no matter what.
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>>577836636
>t-that doesn't count
KWAB
>shant get another (You)
>gives me another (You)
Tell me you're insecure without telling me you're insecure.
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>>577836240
>not picked or banned a single time in pro games
>pathetic winrate in low ranks
>pathetic winrate in middle ranks
>pathetic winrate in high ranks
>not used by anybody to climb (for some strange reason)

>proniggers are STILL not willing to concede the hero is bad
This is like some kind of collective izzat thing, isn't it? They'll say anything but the truth
It's like they can't admit the slightest weakness or the smallest mistake in front of their peers or audience
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>>577836591
Deadlock belongs to them now. Pros and ecelebs completely control the narrative. We've lost.
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Alright I have a russian mina and a streamer geist, wish me luck
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>>577835935
Oh for fuck's sake I didn't think of that. I guess I'll be eating shit in ranked for a few games picking up on how to Rakemaxx.
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>>577814872
Garbage uninteractive design that is simultaneously retardedly annoying to deal with yet not actually powerful in high ranks, which is a common occurrence because actual balance is non existent.
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>>577836240
>>577836820
>not used by anybody to climb (for some strange reason)
He uses her to climb actually.
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>>577836820
um they're pro players and once someone played S+ilver against them and killed them 1v1? how is that fair the hero that does nothing but kill people 1v1 killed the pro player 1v1? clearly the hero is too op this game is only about 1v1s objectives don't matter...
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>>577836370
pro game players are usually retarded monkeys with gifted CNS so that's normal

it's rare that a pro player is a well adjusted smart person
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>>577836928
I will admit my slight mistake and kneel to this obscene statistical anomaly
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>>577836851
I know, that's why I am saying waiting for more money to be involved. We'll still have ecelebs and "pros", but at least only the most talented ones will thrive. At the moment we only have desperate Z-listers who think they'll make it big just by virtue of being the first (Deathy and his clique for example).
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>>577836928
>lower than bebop with 30% less games
Grim, the wins were probably when he was smurfing the lowbies right after the squish too
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>>577837101
Probably, Silver upplayers aren't particularly smart and statistics are too hard for them.
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>>577836871
Yeah. It does a lot more damage than you'd think. Very strong execute.
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Is there a single hero worse at taking objectives than Silver?
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>>577837101
>the wins were probably when he was smurfing the lowbies right after the squish too
Here's the first two pages of his most recent games on statlocker.
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>>577837335
You
Like not whatever hero you picked, you personally
You're shit
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why doesn’t warp build into pstrike?
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>>577837101
it's just a player diff but the dog def not top meta anymore
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>>577837436
because then you couldn't have both actives if you wanted
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>>577837335
Yes 2 actually
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>>577837425
I usually have the highest objective damage on my team though.
>>577837540
Which ones?
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>>577814327
>>577811639
pffffffffffffffffffffffff
haaaaaahahahaha
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>>577814327
>butt ugly vr chat model rip
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What does it say about a playerbase when they start seething that somebody is doing well with their character and thinks they're strong?
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>install gunz the duel since people have hyped it up as the true OG schmovement game that all movementfaggotry spawned from
>not linux compatible
i guess i'll just keep playing pocket then...
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>>577818260
33, last 5 heroes need 4 more wins
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>>577814327
This looks like a VRchat avatar
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>>577837982
wtf are those textures
It looks like metal slathered with cooking oil
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>>577837982
>>577838163
the author very obviously only made the white version and threw in the black version as an afterthought lmao
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>>577818260
2
I'm not playing unranked because I don't want to play a match that will probably be unfun after sitting in a long queue time just so I can slog through playing a hero I don't really like
If they lower the requirement to 10 games instead of 15 I'll probably come back lol
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>>577815153
i unironically use this btw.
when she uses her 2 (invis) everything goes invis but her shades, it's actually cool as fuck.
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>>577838105
I had a wraith seethe about how op venator is when he raped her inlane.
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>>577838310
which version?
the one with huge melons or the one without?
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>>577838335
I hope you told her to kill herself for abusing Wraith and having the gall to complain about another m1
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>>577838369
yeah, the cloth version with the huge tits.
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>>577811639
this shit is unironicly worse than the placeholders
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>>577835173
Mina has been fun playing in standard to get kills, but its rough to carry retards and new people who don't know macro at all
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Do you still build spirit on Drifter after they nerfed the spirit scaling?
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>>577838404
I did it more "politely" to avoid badboy queue but yes essentially.
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>>577836928
Not in solo queue though. """Pros""" only play with their buttbudies in duos minimum
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>>577838679
She's likely a lot easier in high mmr but I can't imagine going mina over wraith/mirage when everygame goes late.
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>>577838882
Its worth it cause she's a hot vampire
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how does literally every single wraith have a 10k+ lead at 25 minutes
why is it never a Seven or Haze with that lead
it's ALWAYS Wraith
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>>577839087
The hero is disgustingly op but will never get nerfed because the "pros" that spam her insist she's like B tier unlike Silver who's still S tier despite being the by far weakest hero in the game.
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>>577835173
>Hm, maybe I'll watch his stream for a bit and see what I'm missing with Mina
>Nigga's ugly ass face is covering an uncomfortable amount of the screen
Nobody wants to see your balding ass, bro, just play the game.
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Kinetic Carbine should be hitscan but unironically
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>>577840093
it is already fast enough to practically be the same as hitscan
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Well, what yoshi giveth yoshi taketh away
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>>577836003
I had this years ago on a Zowie FK2. Instant I changed mouse it got better. Try it.
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>>577839087
because this lategame carry hero also has fantastic early game for some reason with card spam
also easy escape
also remember when she ALSO HAD A STUN FOR SOME REASON?!
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Every gun should be hitscan, no one likes laggy guns. This game is just aoe slop and spells, guns are shit anyway.
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This game is completely dead on EU servers.

Low prio is open HvH every single match. No point in playing, just hope you have the most ragehackers.

Normal queue is full of third worlders "legit cheating" against each others on their dogshit throwaway accounts.

Ranked is full of complete bots who cry to report you if you refuse to LARP with them.

Unreal.

But now that I see that even on 4troons it's just porn addicted faggots, I understand.
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>>577840093
>blue pill
kinetic carbine should be hitscan
>red pill
Vindicta 4 should be projectile
>black pill
bebop laser should be projectile
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why are the worst players the ones talking shit constantly
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>>577840368
Replace Bebop laser with a flamethrower, also give the flamethrower a altfire that reflects projectiles, pushes away enemies and cleanses status effects from teammates (Doing this heals Bebop)
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>>577840405
insecurity cope due to fragile ego.
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>>577840541
Yeah but now my feeding Billy has gotten half the enemy team shit talking us and it makes me feel bad :(
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>>577837567
Bebop and i dont remember, its on statlocker in some obscure corner
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>>577840093
I don't think it'd matter much. You're buying high velocity something if you're carbinemaxxing and if you're not then you're generally using it from closer ranges anyway to setup other abilities. I only remember like one time when I was trying to crossmap a nearly dead Pocket where it felt like velocity mattered and even then I only missed because I genuinely forgot it wasn't hitscan.
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>>577840536
>"What's a' matter Organics? Can't handle ol' Bebop?"
He'd make even less sense as a character but it would be fun.
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Can they hide doorman doors on the minimap again please.
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did anyone else just randomly disappear off the leaderboard entirely? I was position 260 yesterday and now I'm just not on there or on hero leaderboards. and this is while climbing.
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>>577840604
GabeN gave you the mute button do that, you can even flame back to add fuel to the fire if you want without having to listen to them talk.
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>>577836240
PVE mode can't come soon enough, at least they won't be able to ruin that... Right?
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>>577840338
6 months i'd call you a faggot tourist, but now I just agree.
especially with this dogshit spirit sided objectives like koth and how fucking tanky as shit walkers are.
fuck it, hitscan guns.
the only viable M1 is wraith and she barely even has to shoot, just card vomits 4 jokers at you and 100-0s you with them.
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>>577840405
>calico rages at me as ivy for not doing enough in lane
>I am literally constantly shooting my gun and have the wave pushed and I'm heckling enemies in between
>he thinks I'm just afk
>calmly explain to him that I'm doing all of that and that I can't help it if they made ivy's gun shit
>other guy on the team tells me to just say I'm ragebaiting him
>tell him I'm ragebaiting him and he's going on my instagram reels
>screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee MUTED
KEK
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>>577840789
I don't think they had AK-47s in Camelot...
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>>577837404
i watched some of those silver games he had some genuinely terrible teammates too
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>>577840652
>He'd make even less sense
Very simple, since Miss Shelly is smart enough to make Bebop (and thus replace the batteries in her fire alarm) she is smart enough to equip her son with the Nigger Roaster 5000 to make sure somalians can't strip him for parts
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>>577840913
but what about my 3 shitty items that only exist to make the guns faster
what about kelvin
are we going to have to nerf kelvin's damage to 0 so we don't see gun kelvin take over the game?
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>>577840913
Every gun that is a gun should have hitscan, meme weapons like viscous sludge launcher and rem's candle can stay as projectiles
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>>577840219
you're a middle of the pack LR player (i know what build that is)
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>>577841160
Hey! I at least try to counter buy! Also why doesn't that build have anti heal by default?
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yoshi can I have the item patch this week I've been a good boy
can you add an item that kills celeste too
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is this a good paradox build or am i trying to fit too many playstyles into one
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>>577841571
sure we added curse to the item shop
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>>577841571
>Increase the damage penalty on cursed relic by 5%
>Add one of the items from streetbrawl to the normal shop but nerf it to shit
Here you go this is your update
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You should be able to enhance items in the real mode.
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How do I play Graves? Literally never played her and barely saw her being played.
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>>577841692
looks really bad
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>>577841871
Can I get a fire aspect crushing fists?
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>>577841889
Get echo shard on grasping hands and refresher
Whenever you want to annoy somebody, shit out two tombstones and three sets of grasping hands (each of which spawns 2 zombies)
Hit the heroic aura
Watch as the enemy team is swarmed by a tide of meth junkies that glow green
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>>577841692
this is my secret venator build
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I'm doing my part to fight the wraith menace, are you?
Seriously though I see wraith every fucking game, its insane to me that silver was gutted for existing while broken shit like Wraith has been left untouched or with the most cosmetic nerfs ever since her rework.
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>>577841160
he's not an LR'er if he bought antheal when it wasn't in the build.
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>>577841947
should i just go full spirit if i wanna do this most of the time
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>>577842296
it has crippling, also use your brain and get an inhibitor and silencer
you dont need to rush healbane for a victor early game
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>>577842313
just get 4.8k gun and don't get glass cannon.
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>>577842313
i dontt understand why you need long range, glass cannon and hollow point ever
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>>577841692
Too expensive
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>>577842446
I'm a different person why are you telling me this?
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>>577842446
Dully noted
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>venator grenade is now his alt gun
>his new 1 is a melee stake attack
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>>577842587
do you reply to every post like this?
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>>577842564
>headhunter without recharging rush
never post again
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wraith nerfs
>base card trick damage reduced by half
>spade still deals the same damage
>diamond/joker lower outgoing damage instead of resist

>full auto spirit scaling moved to 2AP and cut from 0.075 to 0.055
>full auto duration moved to 5AP

>plated now blocks full auto damage

>telekinesis has a reactable projectile again
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>>577842691
>Dully noted
As opposed to vibrantly noted?
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>>577842964
I'm a ESL retard ok, now stop bully or I'm gonna cry
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>>577836003
stretch during downtime in your games, when your respawn timer is 40 seconds or while in queue.
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>>577842313
No as part of your meme combo dmg or is carbine, if anything drop your greens to 4.8k, get maj leap and trophy collector, trophy will be the biggest stack stick you can get at that price range and you are dunking on noobs so stacks ez

>>577842928
It’s literally pulled from the top paradoxes lol
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>>577842814
No just the retarded ones telling me how to play when I point out that if he is building an item not in the build he isn't a LR'er.
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>>577843271
>muh top builds
tankbuster is also on many top builds for different heroes, are you gonna call that good too?
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>>577843656
I AM the tankbuster schizo, it’s also not top builds, it’s top players
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>look at current victor top builds
>only 2 buy radiant regen
what happen?
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>>577841889
Once you have toxic and heroic aura you can 1v1 solidly, and shove people off objectives well. Make sure your spawns are up before you heroic. Echo shard two is busted. Reverb on 4 is crazy good. You play semi-supportive, as in don't be surprised if you end up with 3-4 actives, or you're picking up all the bullet debuffs to counter (inhib is solid). You unfortunately need like 2 movement options, and I go arcane surge + stam or warp usually.
You can take objectives very fast when you have all actives ready, just keep in mind you have trouble escaping unless you build for it.
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Wish you could hide brool stats on your acc page.
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>>577844269
because it's a dogshit item, retard?
why are you wasting a slot on that dogshit fucking healing?
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>>577841070
kelvin basically has pre-nerf warden's base bullet damage and scaling. if every gun was hitscan they could just put kelvin's gun back to current warden's level
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Stalker upgrade with a stronger bleed please.
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>>577844269

Victor can sneeze in a random direction and probably get a good build. The guy just needs a lot of souls in total to be good
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>>577844618
why do shivs buy it then?
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>>577844286
Actually should I be swapping mystic shot for stalker? Feels like the better early game option which is where her gun is weakest.
>>577844764
Its a good early sustain on shivs and geists, and isn't awful on them mid game due to how much they can spam abilities. Vic has worse cooldowns than both of them.
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I'll deal with the troopers
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>>577844863
Pull. Back.
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>>577844847
RR has a 5 sec cooldown anyway and you can pretty reliably get a pain battery/jumpstart up within that window, + constant passive regen from aura that stacks with number of enemies, just like shiv's knife ricochet and dash/reverb aoe
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>>577829049
>kit does nothing but the point of the hero is to shoot you
>dishonest
tranny list.
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>>577836624
no its the game. It favors the enemy and not you. i think its kinda stupid. I get it being equal for both puts projectile Heroes at a disadvantage but rn it feels like denies dont matter that much
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>>577829598
>statlocker not posted
quit larping. it's not going to help you get better.
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>>577845193
Geist is tagging lots of people at long range with her bomb and 3.
Shiv is tagging lots of people with knives, and close range using his 2 constantly.
For Vic, you're only hitting multiple people when you're brawling with your aura up, in which case there are better options such as lifesteal.
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urn and rift should just stop spawning at 35 minutes.
fucking tired of retards thinking their life is worth turning the urn in at 40 minutes and dying for it.
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>>577845167
Going in!
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How do you feel, knowing that Deadlock will be left to rot in 6-10 years when Valve moves on to something else?
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>>577840281
Her new ult is even better than the stun
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>>577845285
denies are just an attention tax to make laning slightly deeper than street brool
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>>577844269
>>577845193
not gonna argue with you, retard.
build your dogshit item and lose your brick games, i genuinely do not give a shit.
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>>577845434
Nothing lasts forever.
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>>577834030
retard?
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>>577824878
hes been put onto Dota
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>>577844269
>>577844618
>>577845193
>>577845480
samefag
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>>577834543
only fags.
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>>577845193
Brother spirit lifesteal out heals RR if you're fighting more than one person. And you're going to be buying lifesteal regardless, so instead of buying RR just use the money on infuser or leech.
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>>577845434
I hope it's tf3 to complete the cycle
>tf2 fans seethe about dota
>dota fans seethe about cs2
>cs2 fans seethe about deadlock
>deadlock fans seethe about tf3
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>>577843579
its almost entirely 1:1
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>>577836003
for me it's my keyboard hand. same shit happened playing natural selection years ago too. especially my crouch finger.
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>why yes, I WILL waste a slot on 60 regen a second and knock myself back 3200 souls on a character who desperately needs expensive power spikes and slots.
>i am NOT a pisslow retard.
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>>577845434
It's been left to rot for 8 months already so
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>>577845825
It's the active reload retard isn't it KEKAROOOOOO
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Haven't played Vic since before old gods new blood throw me a build.
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>>577844847
Mystic shot is way better than stalker especially when you can’t miss
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>>577845953
Mystic Slow Refresher and whatever in the shop tickles your fancy
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>>577845953
I will shill my tempo anti m1 build
GL
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>>577845794
Hello, the bebop here again, if you have any builds/suggestions you want to give I'm interested
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>>577845794
>no healbane in build
>LR'er only follows left to right (hence the name) without thinking
>anon thought "Wow why doesn't this build have early heal cut? I should buy that!"
>Goes to the green page and buys healbane
What are you trying to prove with that image? That he followed a build? Yeah he followed a build but he knew to adapt and diverged. Not by much, just a singular item but nonetheless he diverged from the OG build meaning he is actively thinking about items and not mindlessly buying "Left-to-right".
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>>577845653
Very interesting.
More importantly, SILVER!
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>>577846486
my alcho abusive wife
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>>577846528
She's not abusive, she's far too nice for that.
She'd give a random horrid birdrat the jacket off her back if it asked.
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VEILWALKER MY BELOVED
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>>577846743
she said no to that dumpster residing creature howeverthoughbeit
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>Veil Walker invis can tickle your nuts before reveal
>Shadow Weave invis stops if you're within the same zip code
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>>577846907
She said yes after the ritual.
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>>577847329
you should know that when a girl says later she means never
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>>577846423
kys
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>>577846743
She's too weak to be abusive lol
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>>577847762
>Punches the wall in anger
>Breaks her hand and also her ribs somehow
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>>577847762
Maybe in human form, but I bet my wife in wolf form could beat up your wife
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>>577846907
desu even fucking Seven is nice to the dumpster rat, as much as Seven can be
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>>577836003
I had it really bad for awhile, was trying everything including some shit like putting tape around my hand while I slept to try and not compress the nerve or something, and then I took a magnesium supplement after seeing it recommended for carpal tunnel and it outright went away in like a week. I'm pretty sure I was getting a reasonable amount as well. I don't mean to get your hopes up or sound like some holistic quack but it was such a massive difference that I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend giving it a shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdD7CgN5FGg
This was also the only exercise video I found that seemed to have any real impact.

I hope that helps at all.
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>>577836820
The old adage of winrate means nothing but then we have to pretend McGinnis is op because she has a giod winrate.
These people think wraith sucks btw.
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Healbane is not situational and deserves to be in the left to right builds
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I just can't into m1ggers. I know that sounds like a shitter thing and, you know, maybe it is, but I've only ever played flick shooters in my life. I literally cannot for the life of me track someone. I didn't even realize this shit was a different skillset.
I'll land headshots on Holliday all day but can't proc afterburn on Nigfernus.
Fuck my retarded life I am cursed to play spiritslop for all my days
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>>577809953
I once won a game that was 1vs11
I sure as hell can handle 5vs7
I don't fucking care what the others are doing, if they go full retard, I go full retard as well.
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>>577840971
I think I once read a book with the exact premise of bringing AK-47s to Camelot.
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>>577847179
Patch your game, they’ve had the same spot radius for months
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abams build? Just got my shit rocked playing him for the first time in forever
just felt like a big walking target for their m1s
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Did infern get buffed? He went from being whatever to shitstomping my past 4 games
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>>577845313
statlocker is garbage anyways
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>>577848556
learning to use movement & strafing to aid your tracking helps a lot. knowing what exactly you're bad at also helps, i.e. tension management,or vertical tracking, whether you're shakier when moving to the right/left, and so on. eyes play a big part in it too. just trying to focus on the simple concept of having the enemy stabilized at the center of the screen, rather than thinking about trying to align your crosshair while worrying about your hand movements etc. will make reading enemy movement much easier
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>>577849235
He's lane hitler, has good mobility and can turbo farm like crazy all while having one of the best ults for mid
He's just been broken for a long time. Don't let boosted infernus mains say otherwise.
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>have to win 6-7 games in a row to go from brick 6 to stone 1
>its a gamble everytime I queue whether I get casual players allergic to standard queue or real players
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>>577849098
literally all in on green
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>>577849235
“Pro” made a vid on him
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It’s happening, /our guy/ Andrew chicken has acknowledged silver underperformance

Here begins the golden age of back to back to back buffs. Cheers sisters, we’ve done it
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>>577849650
Removing the fire rate bonus on Lycan form next patch and upping her spirit scalings
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>>577849098
Healing booster, extra duration on 2, maybe point blank/hunters aura for some gun pressure and the rest into green
Phantom strike their carry and show them to the nearest wall, get echo shard on 2 for funsies
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>doorman players being smug that someone is mad when they get glitched into the wall
>demand you feel bad for them when they get nerfed countless times
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>>577849921
>yeah so let me tell you all about how it's balanced that I could web an entire team on mid pit and teleport them 200m away and just close the door on them instantly
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>play graves
>use summons
>wait for enemy to kill all the summons
>then go in and die
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW GRAVES IS SO WEAK F TIER YOSHI WTF PLEASE BUFF
the life of graves players
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>>577849921
>>577850018
Revert all nerfs however make it so enemies can't be pushed through the door for 6s after placing it. Done.
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>>577850132
>graves lane partner
>sics them on someone
>dive forward into the path of the skulls and parry
>enemy light melees them out of muscle memory
>gets parried
>rape them
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>>577850132
I don't do this. I'm just tired of cosmetic 3 (and early game 1)
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>>577850132
I haven't played Graves in months, I think she's shit from playing against her.
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building escalating resilience and silencer on graves with maxed 3 and then just holding m1 on their m1gger is the correct way to play
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>>577849460
>>577849746
?
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>>577849921
I’ll admit that shit just keeps happening by accident I threw a Abrams the under map and the guy lost his fucking mind and was asking the entire lobby to report me but I was literally just trying to throw him into our guardian
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omg I tried to 1v1 silver and she killed me wtf how is this hero so op...
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Yoshi give Abrams Kelvin Dome for a week it'd be funny.
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>>577849921
If the nerfs made sense (like the walker/spawn cart changes) but some of them just feel arbitrary in a ‘stop having fun play support you faggots’ kind of way, I’m assuming eventually his echo sharded cart will have half damage or half stun or both
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>>577850689
No they should make a new hero with Kelvin dome but it disables parry for every hero within it
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>>577850840
Wait real.
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kelvin dome should just be chronosphere from dota, freezes enemies and allies while only letting you attack
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>>577850840
The thunderdome...
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>>577850840
YOSHI HIRE THIS MAN AND HAVE HIM DESIGN A MELEE FRONTLINER RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>577850689
Next April fools gives everyone random abilities, you WILL enjoy fighting the Dynamo with Doors, Stank Aura and Infernus run
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>>577849921
It's funny how devs didn't care that much about Doorman until pros started picking him, he'll forever be in that position where he keeps getting nerfed because of how good he is at the level of coordinated play.
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>>577850994
If they retooled the street brawl item selection for abilities it could be funny.
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>>577850840
>Boxer character
>summons a ring
>no guns, no parry, we are beating each others asses
>most damage done gets “The Champ” bonus
>increased stats for 4 seconds or permanent if the opponent dies in the ring
SHIP IT
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>>577851020
Soul destroying when I give someone an escape door and they don’t use it and die.
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>>577851172
HUGE debuff if you escape the ring
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>>577850132
>>577850132
this trick works exactly once and then they never fall for it again unless they're a brickGAWD
shooting them with your Gnat Tickler 5000 while skulls are out isn't going to change anything, she's just not very good
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>learning all that movement shit
Just start buying majestic leap on every hero
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>>577851020
>Doorman on coordinated teams that actually talk
>SSS+ Tier
>Doorman in pubs with mute randos
>C+ Tier (B if the Doorman knows what he’s doing)
it’s kinda a shame since I understand that having someone with such a dangerous kit in the right hands can’t be *too* good in casual play but fuck me watching him get a sledgehammer to the knees everytime some popular streamer does something interesting with him feels terrible, especially if it’s some guy that’s had 300+ hours on Doorman and the chances of someone replicating (or doing as effectively) it are pretty low
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>>577851172
>"Meet the Boxer" with a 1 to 1 shot from Raging Bull.
Kino
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>>577850532
i see purple and orange ALL IN ON GREEN BABY
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>>577849306
Stop posting, bricktard.
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graves 3 literally does nothing i fucking swear it has to be worse than crackshot
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Make kelvins dome deal some initial burst damage so you can start buying lighting scroll on him
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Rework lighting scroll
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>>577851260
Needs a cool name for the debuff tho, searched up some 1940s terms and Palooka stood out to me, pretty much just means a stupid untalented Boxer
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>>577852013
now triggers the lightning damage and the stun after every 600 spirit damage you deal, no longer restricted to just your ult
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>>577851608
I know we probably won’t get a ”Meet The” series for Deadlock (took TF2 a decade just for 9 characters and SFM is a mess) but god it’d be so nice
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>>577852314
Its possible once we get to the point of heroes being released one by one in the late future (post open beta or release?) but yeah that's far, far away.
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Why does lighting scroll only give you 50 health as a t4 item?
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>>577851824
Actually it steals weapon damage and spirit resist so that’s 2 things
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>single punching or missing the 4x statue buffs on sinners
why? it's the best part of the sinner and the only reason to do it. fuck off if you're going to waste it.
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>>577851557
>just burn one of your active slots with this high cooldown meme item that only pocket gets any use out of and can't be used in combat
yeah no warp stone every time
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>>577852767
Warp stone does mog it, but don’t pretend you get 4 actives every game
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>majestic leap
>meme item
Shitlow hours
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>>577852314
There's a Meet The concept for Mcginnis so we might for a few
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>>577853565
I thought that was just a portfolio example from one of the Valve animators? Or was that actually a accidental leak
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every buff except movement is useless
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jesus fucking christ almost three hours what did they do this time
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>>577829049
>mina
>Celeste
>apollo
>lash
>ivy
>kelvin
>paige
>mcnigger

>FUCKING DOORMAN

>more honest than victor, yamato or geist

????
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I just started playing pocket and he's really fun. Im a bit surprised he isnt one of the shitlist hero's since the threat of his 3/4 creates area denial just around him wherever he's standing and then his 1/2 give mobility and harrassment to boot. Fun character to get creative with item ability combos. I'm gonna try rem next he seems super fun too and very similar as a nuisance character you can get creative with
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dogshit website
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>doorman in game
>goes kidnap
>can't execute the kidnaps properly
Game basically a 5v6
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Yoshi buff shiv you fucking retard genuinely unplayable
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I lost again
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>>577855282
>YOSHI MAKE MY OP HERO EVEN MORE OP WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
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>>577829528
>after 4pm or weekends
people with jobs or shit to do
>odd hours or early morning
Actual children on summer vacation or addicted nerds that haven’t eaten a sandwich or overeaten or haven’t had a break in 6 hours not realizing that stepping away from a game for a bit is in fact, more optimal for your gameplay than slamming your head against a wall wondering why it’s getting worse
Or secret third option: sleep deprived European
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>>577855147
oh boy is desktop posting working again
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You should get more points if you're MVP
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>>577855828
idk
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>>577855718
"OP" gets countered by 2 items woah
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>friend is having some russian go 38-3 on his account during calibrations
is this a valid reason to not talk to a friend again chat
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>>577855254
>doorman in game (enemy team)
>goes kidnap
>actually lands them consistently
>my team keeps going blue lane like touching their hand to a hot stove
>UGH PEDOPHILE EPSTEIN DOORMAN!! I CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS!!!!
>watch our 30k lead slowly turn into a 30k lead for the enemy team and we lose
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>get comm banned 4 days ago
>come back today and win 5 games in a row
>get comm banned again for 8 days
bro i cant even wtf
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>>577856328
placements literally doesn't matter i went like 4-4 was e6 before got oracle 6 it just looks into your rank before the update
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>>577856485
he also got party boosted before so hes already boosted af
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>>577855254
>Like Doorman
>get asked why I’m not doing the kidnap build
>because it isn’t fun and requires a niche setup where you’re losing or they’re not playing safe
>what are you, retarded?
I am but the kidnap strat is fun for like one game and usually a hinder when I could’ve built something actually useful to the team, like what does a kidnap Doorman do if you’re actually winning?
You’re pushed up to their base and 3 items you spent a godawful amount of souls on is effectively ass niche nonsense
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>>577856442
>>577856576
i just wish he'd get vac banned he does this in dota too some russian just logs into his acc and plays hows this not a fucking insta permaban
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someone care to explain why im outdamaging most of my team on Rem in a 47 minute heater and why I had to endure 3 russians talking on mic perma for the entire game (have they not heard of voice programs??)
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Ivytards, can you stop making threads on /v/? You're embarassing us.
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>>577856442
>wins 5 games in a row
>doesn’t mention how he speaks to his team during that timeframe
Anon
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>>577854171
they broke 4chan again
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doorman bros...
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>>577856808
everyone knows u made the thread bud
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>>577856808
/v/ is a wasteland of any actual discussion if someone here is ‘embarrassing us’ it’s effectively pissing into a ocean of piss, look at that board for 3 seconds and tell me there’s a single actual thread of note
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>>577856936
wrong
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>>577856828
i didnt say a word the first 4 games i stomped all of them
then i had to lane with a bomb geist refusing to use her gun in lane so i told her she sucked ass a couple times
i didn't use any words that would be censored by steam
just a dogshit system really and the fact that it doubles each time is beyond retarded
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>>577857043
>told her she sucked ass a couple times
That’s enough for a knee jerk response of your entire team reporting you, this is the modern gaming age, good vibes only, you don’t have a fake feel good personality in every match you will be beaten with rocks until you follow suit.
I don’t like it, I much preferred the decades ago micspam and generally absurdism anger/retardation of yesteryear but what you gonna do?
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>>577857432
bro i had the enemy telling me to kms every game because i was stomping as mo
should i report them all and they should get banned too? like what is this shit
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im so sick of fucking fr*nch people and br*ts in this game
i might just go back to dota at least you can say whatever the fuck you want
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I just started playing am.i cooked
I like the robot samurai, even tho my friend said he's a homo in the lore
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>play sidelane
>team feeds out of control
>play brooler
>no macro
impossible games. when are all the boosted fucks going to derank to brick where they belong?
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>>577858084
>derank

lol. Lmao
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>>577857578
>what is this shit
Modern gaming, it’s okay to shittalk the enemy and wish death upon them but mean words towards your teammates is a nono, unless they used slurs they effectively got off scot free, you could report them if you wanted but they’re not gonna play attention unless it’s a swath of reports, which again, isn’t going to happen since even your team understands the odd unspoken rules.
It’s fundamentally more of a social problem than anything mechanical Valve can step in for
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>dont let bebop 180 degree turn while hooking
>make his bombs do damage to him

I just fixed bebop
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>>577856901
Another Joeschmuck certified hood classic.
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i think i've lost 100% of the games where no one comes to the first rift after I pinged it
if this happens the match should just be safe to leave
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>literally chain losing nonstop completely out of the blue
I mean it's just standard but Yosh you got to be crazy if you think I'll queue ranked if my standard matches are this one sided.
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>>577813307
Rem and Pocket
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I'll deal with the troopers
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>matchmaking was almost perfect for the first day it drops
>since then there have been daily patches to deadlock
>matchmaking is now as bad or worse as it used to be

gathering data im sure that the team with all higher ranked duos beats the full pug lower ranks yoshi you fucking retard
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>>577858639
Bejita!?
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>>577856901
The Doorman Walker/Spawn Kidnap meme needs to die.
That kit has 900IQ plays built into the system but this shit is the most self kneecapping bullshit to ever get popular, saw a Doorman throw people into a vent for a free stun while Dirfter mopped up, the bastard went on to use a friendly cart to push a ulting Dynamo into a Walker while he had the team wrapped around his balls.
This greedy ass ‘free kill look at my twitch steam clip’ garbage has fucked up a noticeable percentage of Doorman players and it drives me insane
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>>577858021
>am I cooked chat
yep this one goes in the ignore pile
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>>577859494
>"Ignoring (You)!"
>Replies
:( retard general
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>>577836003
Put your keyboard in your lap and your mouse on your chair arm (can get like a container lid to make it wider)
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>>577858021
fr fr no cap on gah bix nood yo ahh be playin bruh
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>>577859494
>>577860691
Funny gays I don't mind that. U do u.
I support your homo lifestyle!
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wraith in my game because someone decided to ban fucking mo
it's griefing at this point
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if I put mystic reverb on Pocket's barrage, would his shots after his 1st proc on other enemies I hit with them, or only the first shot?
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>>577856328
THE RUSSIAN LOST TWICE LMAO I CANT DUDE I LOVE THIS 15 GAMES BULLSHIT ALL HE CAN PLAY IS DOGSHIT HEROES LMAO
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>>577816689
>they now have to bend the knee or face the wrath of american politics sadly
I agree they're pussying out but I think they could get away with giving pocket male pronouns. The classic Valve silence would work wonders.
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>>577861478
It’s the first hit on any spirit ability, I’m not sure about something like Infernous’s afterburn but yeah it’s just usually a one’n’done so it’s usually bought by nukers, his briefcase would probably have a better damage output
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>>577856131
yeah now imagine there was an item that dispelled. oh well maybe in another game.
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>>577856328
yeah he's a faggot I'd just delete him
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>>577861674
why are you friends with a russian
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>>577861478
it's not an enemy based cooldown like spirit burn, you have to wait for the cooldown to finish until it can proc again, so you can't proc reverb multiple times within 1 barrage. but DoTs can proc it again if their duration lasts long enough, although the 50% damage won't do shit with DoTs like afterburn
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>>577862020
reading comprehension
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>Run majestic leap on dynamo
>Always shit on for it
>Always carry with it anyways
I wonder why people hate this item on Dynamo so hard. Everyone just says warp stone but warp stone doesn't get those huge black holes like I always aim for
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what happens if you hit somebody that's on the zipline, with hyperline immunity, with like a sleep dagger or holliday lasso or something?
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>another loss
>one team is obviously better than the other one
Not blaming anyone but these matches are not balanced at all and suck.
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>>577862327
they just get cc'ed
they dont get hyperlined
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>bro just win 15 standard games!
i think everybody who okayed this decision should be drawn and quartered
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>>577862472
does sleep knock them off, or just stuns?
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>>577862554
knocks them off, but they may retain some momentum, unsure.
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>>577862075
you said friend and russian so you are friends with one
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why would anyone play shiv right now? there are way better assassins like calico and drifter
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>>577862075
I bet this >>577862646 retard isn't even an esl. World's fucked if they cannot comprehend the written word.
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>>577862484
It's grim. So many people treat the games like they are meaningless so they can feed and play like retards cause no ranks are involved. People still want to win and they fail to grasp that concept.
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>>577862484
why do you even wanna play ranked though? if you dont have 15 wins you've barely scratched the surface of the game unless you're a gay ass OTP then serves you right
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>>577816539
I think they were trying to be clever by having him abandon his original identity and using pocket and they/them terms to remain under the radar as much as possible but people online are generally retarded, there’s been a couple lines reworked since they flat out said “he” when referring to Pocket but the sub 20IQ retards got into a tizzy, clearly the devs do acknowledge him a male but would rather not deal with that retarded shit (rightfully since those people are impossible to appease) and end up with this middle ground where yes he is *technically* non-binary but only in every way that doesn’t end up with a bunch of knee jerk reactionary fuckheads blowing up every thread online on every site.
To the devs he is a guy, they cannot acknowledge this, they can never acknowledge this, they cannot ever write dialogue referring to this, for completely understandable reasons
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>why would anyone play one of the most broken S tier heroes
next you're gonna ask why would anyone play infernus right now
and the answer is try ranking up first
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>>577858254
>Modern gaming, it’s okay to shittalk the enemy and wish death upon them but mean words towards your teammates is a nono
That's been the case in anything competitive for ages. Nobody's ever liked some fag seething at his own teammates especially when you're not exactly getting paid for it.
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>>577863102
>>577863102
>>577863102
>>577863102
>>577863102
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>>577863127
Bro we are on page 6
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>>577861827
Best option would be to go Venom "we're literally two niggas".
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>>577863005
you are genuinely retarded and should be shot and killed
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>>577862940
i have about 300 games played i just want to expand my roster beyond 4 heroes and i have a bunch with 8-10 wins
i was in phantom before the reset but these standard games are literally fucking unplayable
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>>577816539
>>577816689
>>577861827
There are two voice lines (since removed) that they accidentally left in for both Vyper and Celeste calling him a "he" so it's clear he's referred to as a "him" internally at Valve.
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>>577862739
>shiv
>assassin like callico/drifter
Shiv is a tank you turbo faggot
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>>577838781
me when the team work game requires team work
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>>577818260
I don't really play Bebop, Shiv, Geist, Mirage or Ven in ranked but I could play them if I wanted to throw a game for no reason
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>I can only buy dispell magic once
>3 enemy players have already bought slowing hex
What is the counterplay
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>>577867410
nothing lower your pants so they can rape you more easily
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>>577824878
future remodels will look like ass then
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>>577866975
how many hours you got in the game



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