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Trip is uglyShit OP
>>577930681>>577929637>Rovio's Blitz deleted Sticks like all the Prebootchie data, kept Rebootchie data (albeit still unused)>Rovio/Sonic Team-codeveloped Rumble just drops her with short fanfareThere's a powermove happening here- I'm just not smart enough to figure out what it is..I just want Cream, Marine and Sticks to meet.
CNC
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>>577934372Is Amy latina?
Sonurge
If you've ever felt like this general has slowed down in recent years, you can squarely blame posters like these
Now that Sticks is officially coming back, who do we ship her with?I propose Espio.
>>577934453>no trip
>>577934602maybe argentinian
>>577934163To be fair Sticks being canon is something we shouldn't be too surprised about, she was Sonic Team's darling during the Boom era and already crossed over, the schizotheories here that Sticks was noncanon to the gameverse was always a schizotheory, probably be the same lot that think Robotnik isn't canon whenever a game neglects to mention it like we all have the same goldfish memory but her being canon puts Zooey a mere degree away from being canon as well and I'm not sure how I feel about that.
>>577934668Had this discussion a few threads ago and it was decided that Sticks and Sonic (Sonicks) is the objectively best pairing for either of them.
>>577934946This was made before Trip, but she can join!
>>577934602I always pegged her as French-descent.
>>577935397What's the capital of France?
>>577934327>That wasn't an act of terrorism. He was trying to destroy it full stop, not cause terrorYes that will cause no panic whatsoever, like a kid warning people before a school shooting.Near zero IQ take.
Realdash fucking Jewel
>>577935474Makkah al-Mukarramah
>>577935474Never Lake!But for real, "Rose" can be a French surname and her Amy Rose is a Miles Prower-tier pun (on the French word "amoureux" or 'in-love').
>>577933693>Sonic only lost to Infinite and Mephiles, that's literally all of it.Sonic lost to Knuckles at the start of Sonic 3. Loses to Shadow when they first met. Loses to Eggman when he tricks him and launches him into space in SA2, Loses to Emerl in Battle, Loses to Shadow in ShtH, Loses to Silver twice in 06 and Loses to Eggman at the start of Unleashed, and also loses to Jet at the start of Riders 1 in their street scuffle.That's not even counting other things like him getting caught in thr HypergoOn Singularity in Colors because he failed to escape it in time, or him losing to Giganto at the start of Frontiers.Sonic loses plenty. You just only pay attention to the ending an who gets to go gold and punch the final bosses' lights out.>>577934078No>>577934529He didn't actually attack anyone though. He blew up half the moon.Stop using real world logic here. You know what I mean. Describing Eggman's entirety as a character as a terrorist is incorrect and creates misconceptions about the point of his character.It'd be like if I said Sonic is a racecaedriving escaped convict.Yes, he technically did those things but its not who the character is.>>577935271>I just also know that they’re fucking incompetentTailscels dont get to have opinions.>no he didn't get an arcYes he did.But he wasn't standing next to Sonic defeating the final boss so it doesnt count. You dont care about writing and stories. Its all just a front gor the fact you just hate Sonic because you feel your pet character is stuck in his shadow.
>>577934496Haven't seen you post like this in years, SadTailsfag. How ya been?>>577934668>muh meme girl character>immediately reduces them to shipfodder.
>>577935861>Sonic loses plenty. You just only pay attention to the ending an who gets to go gold and punch the final bosses' lights out.I mean, that's like saying Team A lost a whole bunch because Team B scored a few times in a 50-10 basketball game.
>>577935060Its literally the opposite.Sticks being canon is the schizotheory. It doesnt even matter if it is or isn't correct. The idea she is is the theory and it is based on a collection of circumstantial evidence and casebuilding rather than anything concrete.That's the definition of schizotheory.Also the rest of what you said is retarded.
>>577935861>He didn't actually attack anyone though. He blew up half the moonIf blowing up the moon isn't terrorism...>Stop using real world logic here. You know what I mean. Describing Eggman's entirety as a character as a terrorist is incorrect and creates misconceptions about the point of his character.He's a villain, he does evil stuff, what do you want to warp standards words and roles in literature? Villaind always threatened the world in terroristic acts, the word terrorism is relatively recent. But the main point was that eggman is not that much of a good guy outside archie eggman, he's pretty much a menace.
>>577935572Based Polydash
>>577935397Amy is, if anything, either japanese girl into westshit or half japanese-half American.Same for Sonic.
>>577935861>Yes he did.No, he didn’t. There was zero resolution to or reason for his regression. All he did was be a voice in Classic’s ear and get back to the point he started at, that’s not an arc. Stop acting like non-Sonic characters don’t matter
>>577935519>wordfagging I get you think a pager is a machine that turns the pages of books for you as well.Moron.Terroism is a specific thing. It isnt just "anything that causes a panic".Dunning Kruger ass.
Douge
>>577936475Just admit that you don't have a real counter-argumentoutside of personal assburgers.The guy wants to create eggman land, or at very least push for imperial conquest. That is a political objective, a political objective he wnats to achieve with acts of violence, cohercion, blackmailing and terror. That is by definition terrorism.Now, let's read the next cope.
>>577936337Or they are just westaboos, considering how Sonic mostly talk in japanese and sometimes say english phrases
>>577936159...Are you retarded?No, its saying Team A loses matches to Team B but Team A ultimately won tournament.Sonic's loses were decisive.
>>577936273>If blowing up the moon isn't terrorismIn of itself, no. But in thr context of SA2, yes. Because he did it specifically as a threat of force and to cause a panic. That's what terrorism is. Not just the act of breaking shit.>>577936273>He's a villain, he does evil stuff, what do you want to warp standards words and roles in literature?0 self awarenessIts also just a single thing he did in the context of a single game.
>>577935060>she was Sonic Team's darling during the Boom era and already crossed over, the schizotheories here that Sticks was noncanon to the gameverse was always a schizotheoryIt was a thing because Sticks got replaced with Blaze in the holiday artwork
>>577936405>There was zero resolution to or reason for his regression.Play the game instead of watching TikToks. Both of these statements are false.
Someone just made Project Hero Open source bros. No morehttps://github.com/Sonicloop-dev/Sonic-Project-Hero-Reconstructed-
>>577936912>Just admit that you don't have a real counter-argumentoutside of personal assburgers.You haven't made an argument to counter. You said "Eggman is a terrorist".I make an argument for ehy calling him that is inaccurate.You go nuh-uh over and over and need me to explain to you how words work.No, shooting a gun once doesnt make you a marksman. Eggman's existence in the world of Sonic isn't as a terrosist.You're just twelve and trying too hard to make your scrimblo series sound supeficially hardcore.
>>577937279>just a single thing>take control of mystical powers or particular military assets>ask the world to surrender otherwise he fucks shit upIf this is not a villain trying to subvert the geopolitical order...
>>577936974Engrish the way Sonic used a lot by cool-guy rebel characters in japan in general. But yeah, them being westaboos fits the characters.
>>577937435They are true, you just can’t accept that people can criticize Sonic Team’s garbage writing
>>577937452they got embarrassed by rewired
>>577937691>You haven't made an argument to counter. You said "Eggman is a terrorist".>I make an argument for ehy calling him that is inaccurate.Projection.You just said that he's not a terrorist and never told me why, i pulled out a simple definition for why he's a terrorist and you ignored that because of whatever "cartoon logic", when even under cartoon logic a villain is a villain and a hero is a hero. So the roles are pretty much those.And you're still doing that.>he's not a terrorist>he just did once>he's just not, ok?Like if you repeat that enough, maybe it turns into truth.
>>577934668Sticks is one of those Rare Pure Girls who are Unshippable but if I had to pick then BoomKnux.>>577936337She can be half-Japanese half-French.>>577937378True, but the reason was prolly more innocent than the fan narrative would have you think.>>577936194Nobody cares, Randomfox.
>>577934668Espio is with Tangle
>>577932109>sticks being treated better than creamElaborate?
>>577932790Nakamura wasn't even the one who decided to make him a hedgehog(he wanted him to be an alien from another planet originally) and it was several sonic team members who decided it. you are just repeating meme talking points.
>>577937691SA2 calls Eggman's actions terrorism
>>577937758Geopolitics never even came up. Eggman is not a rival nation or faction in a geopolitical struggle.This is like arguing Sonic must have some weird metabolic factor that converts chilidogs into efficient caloric output to sustain his incredible speeds, and that this factor also generates some energy field that protects him from burning up due to air friction.Its comicfag bullshit
>>577934627>doesn't recognize something from the video games>assumes it is archie, attempts to act superior
>>577938736It works like this
>>577938736>>577938736>This is like arguing Sonic must have some weird metabolic factor that converts chilidogs into efficient caloric output to sustain his incredible speedsNo? We never came down to those particulars. I just called a villain a terrorist for seeking political power with violence.If you feel like the word "terrorism" is too much for a cartoon because you may think about more serious military drama media, that's a nother thing. But the very beginning of this discussion was about demonstrating that eggman is not that different from archie when acting as a villain. At least in what he does.
>wants to blow up entire worldnot a terrorist btw. just omnicidal.
>>577937815I criticize Sonic Team's writing all the time. You just are both really bad at it and pretending yo do so as opposed to just characterfag agendaposting.>>577938150>ProjectionThat's not what projection means. You're just saying words you dont know the meaning of to try and sound smart on the internet.>You just said that he's not a terrorist and never told me why,I literally explained that it is like calling Sonic a racecar driving escaped convict.It is technically true but it isn't the correct way to sum up the character as a whole in regards to how we should see them and their relationship to the universe.Ive said this 2 over now.
>>577938238>he can be half-Japanese half-French.Nothing about Amy is friend at all though. I'd sooner believe she was Chinese.>>577938238>Nobody cares, Randomfox.Not him. Or your boogeyman. Also Sticks is a forced meme. Literally
>>577939453>”I criticize Sonic Team's writing all the time.”>thinks Forces writing was goodLmao at least try to lie in a believable way
>>577934163Yay trip thread, she is my favorite
>>577938413None of that is relevant to the actual point i made though. Silver exists for the exact reason I stated.Nakamura wanted to make FifthPhantomSaga. It got rejected, so he thought to have those elements brought into Sonic in order to jumpstart it in a new form through the Sonic brand.It doesnt matter if him being a hedgehog was his idea or not.
>>577938651Because it was. In that specific game.That doesn't mean Eggman's default continued existence in the series is as a terrorist.SA2 isnt the whole series.Also in the original SA2 script, the idea was for Terios to be the one doing terrorism.
THAT IS WHERE YOUVE ALWAYS VEEN WRING ABOUT MEIM LESS HUMAN THAN ANYONEI DON'T LOVEI DON'T GET SCAREDI WAKE UP EVERY MORNING KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT TO DO AND MAKE THE BEST CHOICES I CAN
>>577939453>That's not what projection means. You're just saying words you dont know the meaning of to try and sound smart on the internet.More projection, should i tell you the meaning of projection?>racecar driving escaped convictHe's more someone who evade taxes.Didn't know i would trigger people so hard just because i used legal terms, i don't even care about framing eggman as a terrorist because this word belongs to more "serious" media, just to highlight how dangerous the guy is.
>>577939856I see>Also in the original SA2 script, the idea was for Terios to be the one doing terrorism.Source?
>>577939101>No? Yes>We never came down to those particulars.It's the mindset that is leading us to have this discussion in the first place. Its the same shit. Trying to situate Eggman in this imaginary geopolitical struggle and thus conclude his existence is that of a fascist dictator who commits acts of terrorism.Its the same shit.
>>577939732The thing is Nakamura wasn't the only one deciding his thematics or story, it was the ideas of multiple people discussing at the table.even the past present future motif wasn't his idea, since originally he was from another planet rather than the future. he is credited as nakamura's character but it is a joint project really.
>>577939334Yes. Unironically.Shadow isn't a terrorist. He is an omnicidal genetically created superbeing.The Black Arms tho WERE terrorists. The entire point of the invasion was the create despair and break their spirits.Its why he asks shadow to take out the president.
>>577939586>>he can be half-Japanese half-French.Uhhhh ok Metal "Eggman" Sonic
>>577939586>friend*French>>577939603You're on an anonymous message board retard. You just assume everyone You dont like is the same person and everything said by someone you agree with is something else, because you're retarded.
>>577939937Okay I guess you ran out of decent quality bait. Here's the last (You)
>>577940060>It's the mindset that is leading us to have this discussion in the first placeThe argument of terrorism is not that complex, it's not rocket science and neither biology, it's morality and ethics and sonic already experimented with morality and ethics.>Trying to situate Eggman in this imaginary geopolitical struggle and thus conclude his existence is that of a fascist dictator who commits acts of terrorismHe got his own empire made of machines. It's more akin to, you know, any other empire in history with their ambitions and supremacy.
>>577940446Do whatever you want, autismus maximus. I think you're the one who don't know the meaning of words and is trying everything to avoid confrontation, like a coward.
>>577940038It was in Japanese Sonic Team stream. I think it was the most recent one.Its not translated though.>>577940093>The thing is Nakamura wasn't the only one deciding his thematics or story, it was the ideas of multiple people discussing at the table.None of this is relevant to my point. The point is am making is that Silver is tacked on and his relationship to the other two characters is half baked anf forced. The point isnt about shitting on Kamura and demonizing him specifically. It doesnt matter.The point is that Silver's inclusion didnt come from an inspired and thought out plan to have a trio of hedgehogs with strong thematic theming. Shadow was made for this reason on relation to Sonic.Silver was not. Its tacked on to make him seem more important so he can shill a spinoff series that had nothing to do with Sonic.
Shadow is such a jerk. Why is someone like this, who dares treat Wave this way, the second most popular character in the entire series?Wave needs her own mainline spinoff in which she fucks Shadow up.
>>577940327I don’t give a fuck who you are nor did I even try to deduce it. (You) specifically say retarded shit, that’s my point
>>577940220...wut?>>577940467>it's morality and ethics and sonic already experimented with morality and ethics.It actually doesn't.Also even if it did it wouldn't be relevant to the convo.>>577940467>He got his own empire made of machines.The "Eggman Empire" isn't a thing. It doesnt exist. It's an idea that exists in his head. There is no strength of land owned by Eggman called "The Eggman Empire". Its "whatever location Eggman happened build something that week". There are no geopolitics.They aren't fighting back against an evil emperor.
>>577940801You are exeggrating how much fifthphantomsaga was related to his creation, it was already at the table that a new character would be added to 06 regardless of fifth phantom saga nakamura or someone involved with that game, nakamura said he suggested that he could use the psychic powers idea, that's all that got carried over.you might not see or like the thematics whatever but ''he's literally reuse of fifth phantom saga'' is an overexeggrated meme narrative. most of his elements or creation is unrelated to it.
>>577940662>autismus maximusYou need to be at least 28 to post on 4chan>>577941043>I don’t give a fuck who you are nor did I even try to deduce it. (You) specifically say retarded shit,You called me Randomfox, as well as claimed I never criticize SonicTeam's writing, as if im a person you can or have been keeping track of. You're clueless.
Guten tag
>>577941039>Wave needs her own mainline spinoff in which she fucks Shadow
>>577941343I never called you Randomfox, you are crossing lines because there’s several people calling you out for being a dumbass. You might as well be Randomfox tho since only his retarded ass would defend Forces
>>577941147>You are exeggrating how much fifthphantomsaga was related to his creationI think you're underplaying it. The fact they had plans for a spinoff series for this new character out the gate at all says plenty.>>577941147>you might not see or like the thematicsI see the thematics. I'm just honest about it because I am looking at ehat is rather than trying to attribute more value and significance to something just because I like the shape of the pattern doing so creates like you are.Silver is tacked on as heck. I don't even hate him as a character. I just hate hoe much you try to downplay all these factors around the conception of his character and his existence in relation to the series, just because it ruind your pretty little picture on your head you invested yourself into.
>>577941039Hey look it's Tails' rival
>>577941043>>577941117>It actually doesn't.It actually did.>friendship>ecology>freedom>whatever the fuck bullshit idw pulled out when meeting surgeAnd you fags talk about it every day.>There is no strength of land owned by Eggman called "The Eggman Empire". Its "whatever location Eggman happened build something that week". There are no geopolitics.It's a conglomerate of machines under the control of eggman, that can pretty much act as an aggressive empire and a foreign threat with enstablished territories to take over and rule (always under eggman).>there are no geopoliticsThere is clear attrition betwren blobians and eggman otherwise all the forces shenanigans wouldn't be tryhard military drama.
>inb4 AI slpppa
>>577941710>several peopleLol>You might as well be Randomfox tho since only his retarded ass would defend ForcesWhere did i defend Forces, retard?"Hurr durrr we created the consensus X game is le bad so its okay to make shit up about what happens in it"!Grow up man.
>>577941343>You need to be at least 28 to post on 4chan"This post is extremely low quality."
>>577937096[x] "Who made these ruins?""I don't know!" The answer comes with a tint of irritation in the man's voice. "Does it really matter? They're all gone, so the land doesn't belong to anyone! It's free for grabs, good riddance."There's a humming behind you, and as you turn around, you're confronted by a strange sight: there is a giant mechanical hornet landing in front of you."Oh excellent, he's here. Alright, he will bring you to safety. Hop on to his front legs, and I don't want to hear anything, OSHA has no power here!"The giant robotic hornet starts flying again, and as you raise your hands, it grabs your wrists, and lifts you up very easily. You are just a child, after all.The trip to the man's base is long but also quite fast, different kind of landscape turning into a blur under your feet. To be fair, you spent the first half of the trip screaming in terror and closing your eyes, and the second half looking around with wonder, wind blowing through your hair as the hornet brings you closer and closer to what seem like...[] ...a massive landfill full of robotic parts, with a base in the middle, emitting enough smoke that there's no nearby vegetation and the very sky seem to turn brown.[] ...what seems to be a bunch of conjoined towers, emitting steam, with bronze gears and iron pistons constantly moving.[] ...a crashed spherical spaceship that looks vaguely familiar to you?
>>577941860Nobody draws anymore so why bother?
>>577941737 i just dislike people stating fifthphantomsaga was the entire reason for his creation because of that one line about him suggesting they could reuse the psychic powers when anything more than that isn't suggested in the interview and there was already a request for a new character since the beginning of 06s devolopment.dont care about arguing about characterfagging rn.
Did they change the maps in Origins? I'm dead sure that even in Classical mod, it looked different.
>>577941737To be fair most Sonic characters are created with the goal of being recurring and important to a degree. The issue with Silver isn't that they planned to give him more stuff, but rather that they barely attempted to establish the character in his debuted. They just introduced him in 06, expected people to fluctuate to him just because he's a male hedgehog and nothing more, and expected those people to buy future games where he would be elaborated upon.
>>577941937Right here retard >>577937435 I still have yet to hear how Tails’ “””””””arc”””””” in Farces was any amount of good or satisfying or had any real purpose outside of propping up playable Classic Sonic
>>577934974NTA but "a perfect character" can't have a positive connotation to me.We like characters because they have flaws, some more than others, but if there was nothing wrong with a character, then as a person, they would be uninteresting and boring.Sonic should be impatient and that impatience should blow up in his face more often, instead that has happened a total of 3 times in all of the games.Sonic also shouldn't just happen to be correct, what I mean by that is that it can often feel like Sonic is in the right not because he's making the correct decision based on the current situation and his own personal beliefs, but rather that the decision he's making is correct because the decision is being made by Sonic, basically that Sonic can't unintentionally do the wrong thing, that Sonic is correct because he's Sonic. It's fine for Sonic to do as he pleases, but when you also say that Sonic has "a steadfast heart of gold" it's no different to saying "Sonic does whatever he wants and whatever he wants is the right thing, so Sonic always does the right thing" it can be a bit much.Aside from those 2, the only other thing I can think of is Sonic's reluctance to share his pain, it's a consistent trait of his that when he's in trouble, rather than let his allies know that, he instead chooses to hide his predicament so as to not cause them to worry about him, this happens once in Secret Rings and a couple of times in Frontiers, where Sonic's condition worsens and he either hides it well enough for his friends to think he's doing fine or he practically lies in reassuring them that he's okay when he visibly is not.The idea that Sonic has been written like a gary stu may not be true, but it is not unfounded, the times where his flaws actually matter are few and far in between as the series seems more focused on showing the player how cool he is, even at the expense of other characters.
>>577941826>>friendship>>ecology>>freedomNone of these are morals and ethics. Words have meaning.>whatever the fuck bullshit idw pulled out when meeting surgeAnd it was stupid. Even IDWfags think it was stupid because it just ends in saying Surge is mentally ill and needs therapy.>>577941826>It's a conglomerate of machines under the control of eggmanNice fanfiction.Point to me on the map where this "Eggman Empire" is located.We played Unleashed which was a globetrotting adventure. So surely you can do it.>There is clear attrition betwren blobians and eggmanNo there isn't. >otherwise all the forces shenanigans wouldn't be tryhard military drama.Eggman took over the planet, stupid. Also there was no military drama. The drama on forces was just over the characters finding hope and working together and believing in the power of friendship.
>>577942318NTA but there was an attempt at an arc it was just poorly executed. But it's still there just by watching the cutscenes
>>577941982You need to be at least 19 to post on 4chan
>>577934372These self-inserters have to make Movie Shadow act like Movie Sonic just to make it look good. Nothing but aesthetic slop
>>577942221(me)Silver isn't the only character i argue about concepts and creation misconceptions either, i argued to people about how ''shadow is just psme fanfic'' ''cream and blaze are created as personal waifu'' etc. with people too, just to inform.
>>577941343>>577941982>>577942647You need to be to post on 4chan
>>577942310>To be fair most Sonic characters are created with the goal of being recurring and important to a degreeTo the point of planning a spinoff series before the character even debuted, to the point of making his name Silver so said spinoff game would start with an S and place next to Sonic and Shadow on store shelves? Come on now. That's a bit much.>They just introduced him in 06, expected people to fluctuate to him just because he's a male hedgehog and nothing more, and expected those people to buy future games where he would be elaborated upon.And it worked. Look where we are now.
>>577942503>Point to me on the map where this "Eggman Empire" is located.NTA, but I'm going to point at the giant floating face-shaped moon. That seems like a pretty good bet.
>>577935474Don't worry zoomGOD, I get your reference
Found new art referencing canon tails lore!https://x.com/flurryfrenzy/status/2089444610984522123
>>577942318Tails' because in the story is him failing to help Sonic in Forces leading to his presumed death and the world being taken over for 6 months. The guilt over this results in Tails losing faith in himself. Then he meets Classic Sonic and he sees it as his chance to make up for ehat he couldn't fo before. That was the arc. Forces is written like ass but its in the game.
>>577942583Calling that an “attempt” is laughable, nothing came of it at all. It’s literally just another way to suck off Sonic/Classic Sonic, since Tails’ “losing it” disappears immediately at the mere sight of Classic appearing. It’s character assassination for the sake of fellating the MC, point blank
>>577942915>"In the latam AoSTH dub his (or rather her) real name wasn't Miles, but Vivi, as in Vivian(a)"I thought it was Bibi, but I can't speak Spanish.
>>577942503>Words have meaning.And you don't know them.>Point to me on the map where this "Eggman Empire" is located.Nowhere, eggman magically pulls out of his ass an army of robot to commit a widespread global invasion (like an empire) for no absolute reason whatsoever.>No there isn't. Hottest take in the desert of the congo, nigger. >The drama on forces was just over the characters finding hope and working together and believing in the power of friendship.80% of our forces wiped out and muh restoration for no fucking reason at all. In the end nothing happened because the writing is so ambiguous every autist can pull out what they want.
Wait... these weren't picked at random???
>>577943157In Spanish there's no contrast between the /b/ and /v/ sounds
>>577943281I think the requirements are slightly differently depending on whether it's "full"/Lock-On or standalone, but yeah not random.
>>577943057>his chance to make up for ehat he couldn't fo before.Like what? Fixing Omega (something he should be able to do regardless of his emotional state)? Not being completely immobilized by fear (something he should never be after SA1)? No, there was zero point to it besides assassinating his character because “he needed to be humbled” after he had the gall to talk back to Sonic being a dumbshit and not trusting him in LW. It’s pathetic
>Knuckles or Sonic can turn Super with the Chaos Emeralds>Tails need the Hyper Emeralds to turn Super, he can't become Hyper...huh????? I remember both Tails and Knuckles unable to become Supers.>>577943473Damn. I'm still learning things about these games.
>>577942873I have a hard time believing that the Sonic Adventure style modern Earth stuff exists on the same planet (or even same continuity) as classic Sonic, Lost World, Forces, or basically any other current era stuff.
>>577943571It's because Tails isn't in base S&K
>>577943627it existed in classics though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMceVbENQK4
>>577943627Sonic Adventure doesn't have "modern Earth" outside of one small part of the city. Sonic Adventure also shares locations with Sonic 3&K. The first game that fully disconnected itself from the previously established world and story was Unleashed, and Forces was made with the "two worlds" mindset. Other games from that era take place in space or a void.
>>577943805But he was in Sonic 3.
I can't believe i wasted 2 hours with you guus over simple semantics. What a terrible place.
>>577943805That’s still kinda lame
>>577943968Eh, Super Tails is already busted
>>577941860You can't believe this looks good.
>>577943571Super Tails is retroactively "Hyper Tails" in Origins, so I'm not sure why the manual is outdated (that's the Origins manual, isn't it?..might be an Origins Plus change). Because Chaos Emerald-powered Super Tails was toyed with and had leftover code in Sonic 2 & 3, but there was only room for Super Sonic to have a near-full set of sprites until they went screw-it and made Super/Hyper Knuckles. Super Emerald-powered Super/Hyper Tails is basically the same except with the four Super Flickies, so he shares his super form with them.
Tails is cute>>577943571Which manual is this? I think they changed it in Origins and Origins Plus
>>577942478>We like characters because they have flawsPeoplr say this but I dont think its ever been true. People don't like characters because of their flaws or because they have em. Its mostly just a thing people say online to keep their heads down from characterfag criticism about "being too perfect" People like characters for their positive traits, what they stand for and what it means, the relationships they form with others and the things they can do etc.Everything else is just playing off of the former.The propensity towards glorifying "flaws" in characters is just a consequence of Protestant lobbyists pushing for certain kind sof moralizinf and writing in children's media at the time. Character existsCharacter is sinful and flawedCharacter falls from grace due to thisCharacter repents for their sinsCharacter is allowed to riseIts a playbook that is not only habituated into people but very easy to replicate and regurgitate.But it also means every story is basically the same story in disguise and this creates the misconception of stories and characters having a shelf life in the west.Now this doesn't mean characters dont for shouldnt have flaws. It just means why they do and what the role of the flaws in the story or for the character isn't set in stone or have a strict pipeline of "unlearning the flaw".>Sonic should be impatient and that impatience should blow up in his face more often, instead that has happened a total of 3 times in all of the games.See, this is kind of what I mean. I personally do not care if it does or doesnt and how often or not it does because it doesn't actually matter. And the stressing of it always comes back to this weird scorekeeping thing, as if there is this quantifiable numerical amount of times Sonic needs to have shit blow up in his face before he "becomes well written".That's just not how writing works. Its playing this meta scorekeeping Character laundering game instead.
>>577943953I enjoyed it. There are far worse ways to spend a few hours than a little online debate on an anonymous image board that nobody will remember in two days.
>>577943953wtf is a guu
Its funny how Sonic the Comic/Fleetway Sonic reviews can indicate if someone is British or not depending on how they feel about the individual stories being too short or not per issue
>>577943805I remember reading an interview where Naka said Tails needed the Super Emeralds to become Super Tails because he's younger, but I have no idea where to find it anymore
>>577944147I kind of wonder why they dropped Tails or knuckles super forms. i guess tails is unecessary but you'd expect knuckles to be able to do it.
>>577943349Interesting.Like how they also pronounce j as h?
>>577944147>>577944152It's "Sonic Origins' Web manual, PC version". It doesn't seem to contain anything related to Plus.
>>577944152Yes!!!
>>577942310>To be fair most Sonic characters are created with the goal of being recurring and important to a degreeI disagree. You can see that most of the characters that aren't Cream, Tails, or Amy, were created in the moment, and then changed to fit a theme that would allow them to have reocurring appearances
>>577942478>The idea that Sonic has been written like a gary stu may not be true, but it is not unfounded,It IS unfounded because like Mary Sue, the term Gary Stu isn't used as an actual character writing critique. It's almost always used as a way to shit on characters for "upstaging" other characters the person making the criticism likes better.And your attempted criticisms kinda reinforce that. Your issue doesn't seem to be at all about how flawed Sonic is or isn't or even if the story challenges him or not or any of that stuff, but just the fact that he is elevated by the narrative above other characters you likr better and you want them to knock him down a peg to "make them more equal".
>>577944349Then I guess the manual is just wrong because it doesn't match the other things I've read about Origins (and its updates, which also messed with Super/Hyper Tails)>>577944351Hi!
https://youtu.be/YP_978rWX4k
>>577944098I still wanna see him :(
>>577944379Eh, i remember reading shadow always was supposed to come back but it just wasn't supposed to be as early as heroes.
>>577942873...you mean thr space station he only built during the 6th months he took over the planet?Its not a permanent fixture of the setting.
>>577944528To be honest, there is a bit of text about Knuckles in Sonic 2, but I never played that game, so I don't know if Knuckles can turn Super in Sonic 2.
>>577944331They represent the /x/ sound (which is like a harsher version of English /h/) with the letter J. But the same letter is used in English for a totally different sound, which is /d͡ʒ/
>>577942007>...a crashed spherical spaceship that looks vaguely familiar to you?
>>577943176>Nowhere, eggman magically pulls out of his ass an army of robot to commit a widespread global invasionYes, now you're getting it.>>577943176>80% of our forces wiped out...that's not "war drama". The story doesn't treat it with any real weight or severity. It just treats it as a showcase for Infinite's power.>muh restorationWe are talking about Forces, not early IDW which tried to write shit like Archie...which itself was wartime soapopera shit.The games arent tho and never were.
Sonic should always be cute
>>577944606It's pretty permanent. Like every other game features a space station. It might not be the same one, but they are definitely where Eggman tends to enact his larger plots. It's his comfort space. In space. Heh.
>>577944316Unironically 06 and hedgehog/saiyan favoritism
<3
>>577944147He's not, he's never referred to as "Hyper Tails" in game, so he's just a version of Super Tails that uses the extra power on Flickies.Even then, "Super Tails" is retroactively just Tails with Super Powers, I'd compare it more to what Metal does with the emeralds in Mania Adventures, it's not an actual transformation like Super Sonic is.
>>577944589An old version of Origins did have Hyper Tails. SEGA later updated the game to remove it>>577944725You're so knowledgeable! Keep spreading your wisdom Tailsfriend :D
>>577944956It was dropped far earlier than 06
>>577943506>Like what? Fixing Omega (something he should be able to do regardless of his emotional state)?He DID fix Omega as shown by Omega popping up at the end to help. Tails' issue wasnt his ability. It was him losing faith in himself.That's the point.Tails os the one to come up with the plan to use Rookie and his prototype to turn off the Sun and save everyone, which follows him finding out how the Ruby works after following Eggman and later hacking into his database in Chemical Plant.And then he had to let go of Classic Sonic in the end who was kind of his security blanket.Its an arc. Its done sloppy but its in the game.
>>577945125Hold on. NTA. I didn't play Forces. But...>Tails planned to turn off the Sunwhat.
>>577944147>Because Chaos Emerald-powered Super Tails was toyed with and had leftover code in Sonic 2 & 3, but there was only room for Super Sonic to have a near-full set of sprites until they went screw-it and made Super/Hyper Knuckles.Source?
>>577945073>He's not, he's never referred to as "Hyper Tails" in gameIt was in Origins before they changed it
>>577945074^-^
>Join this new mini arc on the Road to 100, as Tangle and Whisper face off with an unknown threat and…each other?>After a difficult conversation, Tangle and Whisper are taking some space to cool off. >However, when a mysterious fog takes over Spiral Hill with Tangle in it, Whisper and her Wisps must brave the unknown substance and rescue her friend.>It seems like a straightforward mission—until reality begins to distort around Whisper and she finds that her town and her friend aren’t as she remembers.
>>577945280<3
>>577945321>lesbian chapterthis is the prize I had to pay for a Silvaze mini arc
>>577945321Can we pleasepleasepleasePLEASEkill off Whisper this time?
>>577944316He mentions it in Frontiers' English dub>"non-canon!"So was Sticks, and look how THAT turned out.The secret truth the weebs and westies alike don't want to admit is that both dubs are canon to an extent: while most IDW/TT side-material indeed supports most of the Japanese dub being the canon version (namely for the characterization of Sage, Amy and Tails) TailsTube #10 New Year indicates that Knuckles' characterization is specifically the English one.>>577945073It was Hyper Tails until around the big Amy update for some reason, maybe because they have no intention of properly reintroducing the Super Emeralds anytime soon.
>>577944860Look, i don't care anymore. I want to draw asses and boobs.
>>577945471You deserve more lesbian chapters
>>577944737The robotic hornet flies you toward a crashed spherical spaceship. Except for the very weird giant moustache, it reminds me of the place you used to call home, before... before everything got fuzzy.Gently, the hornet drops you to the ground, before flying off as you wave to it, thankful. As you turn around, you see it dropped you in front of a closed hatch. You walk closer and knock on it politely, before waiting around.You start to fidget as nothing happen, and you start to look around. You've never been outside much, so this is a nice change from usual.Finally, after a long moment, you hear some clanking on the other side of the hatch, and it opens."There you are!"The giant moustache -you mean man- from earlier is finally in front of you, in the flesh. And he's easily twice your size. With an exagerated gesture, he bows to you."I am the Doctor Ivo Eggman."I bow as well, giving my name with a stiff bow. His manners are exagerated, like he's playing a role. Like some kind of circus ringmaster, a "monsieur Loyal".With a smirk, he caresses his moustache. "What a familiar name. It brings up memories of family drama. Well, would you do me the honor?"And, again with exagerated gestures, he shows you the way inside.[] Follow the scary man in his lair. He does look familiar, after all, you're sure he's not some kind of megalomaniac.[] Try to stall. "Eggman, is that a nickname, or...?"
>>577945321>Writer Mark Bouchard>Artist Bracardi Curry>On sale 12/9>Pre-orders due 10/26
Hyper forms where never a thing in-univetse anyways, the Canon ending of Sonic's route in 3&K is the one where you get all 7 normal chaos emeralds
>>577945125An arc would imply there’s some overall growth but there isn’t. He loses faith, he regains it, that’s it. It’s a zero sum contained within the game, there’s nothing added or even anything new since this is the same type of arc they just repeat with him because they’re lazy. The only thing that actually happened in the grand scheme was that he was briefly humiliated. It hurt him more than it helped him, both as a character and with his perception in the fanbase
>>577945576
>>577945690If Sega wanted people to stop comparing Super Sonic so Super Saiyan then they should have kept the Hyper Sonic design
It really annoys me how shit Super Sonic is.
>>577945763They should had made that a guy a rabbit so those long ass hair locks would actually look more natural
>>577945245>>577945525Oh.Well, since they changed it, my point still stands.>>577945690They were, the stone replicas are used as platforms in Mania's Heavy King fight.Hyper Sonic happened, but apparently after S3&K they went to an unknown dimension, that's what Iizuka said anyway, it's clear that they're making sure that they remain a part of the setting while also writing them out of it, otherwise they would've approved Ian's plan for Hyper Sonic to return in Frontiers instead of coming up with Starfall Super Sonic.
>>577945321After all of these supposed Tails fights we have and never gotI don't think they can pull it offeven with OCs
>>577945763they remind me of the mices from cinderella
KILL STICKSKILL WESTNIGGERSKILL STICKSKILL WESTNIGGERS06 AND FORCES ARE GOOD FAGGOTS
>>577945906Or they could just let non-hedgehogs/saiyans have super forms again. Make it about collecting the chaos emeralds not just about being the correct species. But we all know Sonic Team does indeed favor their hedgiyans so it’ll never happen unfortunately
>>577945321>>577945648Another goddamn Tangle - Whisper arc That uses a premise from my series pitch, no lessAt least it has a writer that isn't Ian or Evan. What has this guy worked on Sonic-wise?
>>577946168he has a ponytail. It looks as natural as it can be you idiot
>>577946191Who cares about fights>>577946174The Super Emeralds were only added because they needed two sets of collectibles for the two halves of S3&K. They were never intended to be a thing and the ending that leads to Knuckles' route in the game requires that you don't collect all of them. The Super Emeralds in Mania are just reference for reference sake, heck I think the devs even wanted to include Hyper Sonic in Mania but Sonic Team didn't allow
>>577946168if silver can have stupid hair so can the idw ocs
>>577945576>>577945763where's dapple
>>577945763The green one reminds me of Clove
>>577945620>Follow the scary man in his lair. He does look familiar, after all, you're sure he's not some kind of megalomaniac.
Because you people are overly pedantic, you won a bad sketch of my mouse.
>>577946498>Who cares about fightsfucking moron
>>577945321>SHITver story>Lesbian storyIDW Sonic is soooooo fucking shit.
>>577945763The artwork has been getting better though, might return to reading IDW when my comms are done even if it sucks.
>>577946498>Who cares about fightsMy fellow Tailsbro, this is an action series. Fights are indeed important, and Tails should be fighting. Maybe not as much as Sonic or Knuckles, but his physical skills are important, not just his cuteness or his Jimmy Neutron-ness. That’s what’s been missing from his character of late, we need to stop infantilizing him
>>577946498>they needed two sets of collectibles for the two halves of S3&KDid they? Couldn't they just let standalone S&K start with 0 Emeralds and have however many you had in 3 carry over?
>>577946559so far, it seems to be this girl
>>577943349There actually is, it's just kinda depends on who you ask.
>>577945690Sonic Mania almost had the Super Emeralds and hyper powers: https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Mania/Unused_GraphicsThey get decaying stone memorials in the Heavy King boss fight at the Hidden Palace altar, and the official word is that they took the place of the real ones that got dimension'd away, so they're canon but just not coming back. Of course, 6 Super Emeralds and 1 Chaos Emerald could also be the canon outcome for Sonic & Tails' adventure, you only get the bad ending if you don't have all seven colors I'm pretty sure.>>577945242https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Tails#Unofficial_appearances (see also the trivia)
>>577946774"Action" can mean a lot of things and Sonic isn't about fighting or getting stronger or whatever. I agree that Tails should engage in physical combat though
it couldnt be more subtle
>>577946928Ok, this proves nothing. Just westerners doing their unnecessary references. The intention was that they were just gameplay things that existed within the confines of 3&K and nowhere else because they were never meant to be relevant
>>577945763I don't wanna be that guy, so I'm going to pretend they just made a mistake and forgot to draw the stinger
Chris asks: Any chance for a fighting tournament arc down the line?Sonic Editorial: Oooh, that would be fun. You might be especially interested in Sonic #94–#96. If fans enjoy that, who knows, maybe we’ll have a larger arc, and everyone can make some brackets! Who would come out on top?
>>577947087I'm so glad sonic is finally gay. My Sonadow fics are going to be real.
>>577946402They wrote the Halloween SpecialThey also clarified that they're co-writing the arc with Evan (like all the other non-Evan writer arcs in the build up to 100)
>>577945985Super Sonic is fine, it's every other "Super" form that sucks, the only exception being Super Neo Metal because he literally copied Sonic's ability to use the emeralds to become Super Sonic, he's not using his own transformation, he's using Sonic's."Super" only works in relation to Sonic anyway, it makes supersonic, it's a play on words, that's why the level above that is hypersonic, although Cyber Sonic, design wise, looks more like what a level above Super Sonic would look like given that Super Sonic's color scheme is just Sonic's but inverted."Super Shadow" is nonsense, and the design itself stopped working when they changed it from being white to a pale yellow.>B-B-B-BUT SHADOW'S SA2 MODELThe official 2D art of Shadow in SA2 shows him being jet black, it isn't a very dark navy.
>>577944891>It's pretty permanentNo it isn't. Its likr in 4 games ... and only in 2 of em is it the same space station.>every other game features a space station.Not even kind of. And its almost never even the same one. You're intentionally using the word "space station" to try and braoden the selection here dishonestly.>>577944891>they are definitely where Eggman tends to enact his larger plotsThey aren't though. It's moreso things he makes in the moment for a specific goal.In Forces, its basically just a glorified prison + battery. He doesnt even go to it in the game.He enacted his plans from Metropolis and Mortar Canyon
>>577947306basically, cloaked guy is going to make a lot of fake sonics and friends
>>577931780I'm gonna be that snotty four eyes lad for a moment, but what has got you to imply he's an outlier? He's not some weird gremlin crashing our plane of reality. So what he's tagging along?Obvs the people want Sally and everything, my point is not that, just what do you mean with "yeah even ROTOR"?
>>577945576>>577945763Here’s a better look at the maids and servantsWhich one are you fucking? For me it’s the fat reddish one
>>577947264Anon, I'd sooner believe that Mania itself isn't canon before I dismiss the developer's own input on the game they made.
>>577947754for me is The Cooler Tails
suddenly stinks of AIDs
>>577947878...dad?
>>577947916Takes one to know ;)
>>577947306So it'll be Battleworld but Sonic>>577947427>They wrote the Halloween SpecialShit
>>577946928Mania is garbage
>Tangle and Whisper spend time apart>But only off screen, because Tangle can’t exist in a story without Whisper anymore.
>>577945225At the end of Forces, Eggman uses the Phantom Ruby to make a Sun projection to drop on everyone. Tails comes up with a plan to stop it by using Rookie's connection with his ProtoType Ruby to turn it off.
>>577946498>the ending that leads to Knuckles' route in the game requires that you don't collect all of themThis scene? Can still happen after Hyper Sonic. There's nothing that prevents it from happening if you get all 7 Super Emeralds. They just needed to put the congratulatory screen with your character in front somewhere and it'd look awkward after the cliffhanger. But if you really can't accept that and want another way to make sense of Mania, you can headcanon that only Knuckles got all Super Emeralds, I guess (because they're no real reason he's collecting all seven Chaos Emeralds again so soon after the Sonic & Tails story).>>577947264>>577947985oh ok, it's the anti-Mania guy lol
>>577947973I'm clean unlike your infected asshole.
>>577946620You walk in, jumping slightly as you hear him immediately slam the hatch and lock it."Forward, girl."You walk carefully, struggling with the tilted floor. Behind you, the eggman is crouching to fit in the small corridor.You ask why he didn't built this straight."I didn't account for my death egg to crash! This is meant to be a spaceship, not a... not a space station or something!"You keep your tongue in your mouth. For some reason, the term of "space station" stirs something in your memories. Memories of home, mostly.A name escape your lips. "Ark." Eggman's reaction is immediate."So you do have some memories, you didn't just wake up there! You do have some basic education!"Then, softly. "Just a bit forward."And finally, you leave the tight corridor, and arrive inside the ship proper. Despite it being tilted, the sight is breathtaking: a large part of the ship is hollow, with a massive vertical core in the middle, and what look like entire buildings, factories and ore storages on the insides, all facing inward."Beautiful, isn't it? My Death Egg."[] "How much do you spend on electric bills?"[] "It's beautiful. Even bigger than the ARK."[] "What is that core in the middle?"
That Silvaze issue was supposed to be drawn by DeeGeeMin, but for some reason Nathalie Haines will draw her first issue
>>577946360Sonic has Super because himself is a force of nature, a being of controlled chaosShadow has Super because he was scientifically engineered to use the powers of the Chaos EmeraldsSilver already has supernatural powers, same with Blaze which is why she was able to use Chaos ControlKnuckles is also a force of nature but not a chaotic force like Sonic. While Knuckles can turn Super, he prefers peace which is why he wants to protect the emeralds rather than using their power for himself or having their powers fall into the wrong hands
>>577947459>Super Sonic is fineNah, he's shit too.>chaos emeralds are super powerful, to the point that one of them can be used to teleport, and they can power robots and all!>you need SEVEN of them to transform, not one, but seven>AND it eats rings to maintain the transformation
>>577945525>He mentions it in Frontiers' English dubIts in air quotes because its a joke.
>>577946698I love Evan Stanley's Sonic the Hedgehog!
>westwestwestwestwestwestwestwestwestwestwestwestwestwesternerswesternerswesternerswesternerswesternerswesternerswesternersMania was made by an *australian*.Genuine question, was /sthg/ always this astrosurfed to hell for anything anti-west before or is this just a recent development?
>>577948036>After a difficult conversation"Uuuuuu Tangle, SEGA says I'm straight"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRthLgpeqBs
>>577948391Why are we assuming it's going to have shipping?or is it just a shorter way of saying silver/blazewell whether they play into it or not it'll bring a lot of shitstorm to the fanbase. i don't really follow idw outside of people discussing it on my timeline and read very few issues but i might read this one since there's very little silver or blaze content otherwise.
>>577945756>An arc would imply there’s some overall growth That's not even what an arc is.An arc is just when a character develops or unfolds due to the circumstances of the story.
>>577946698>>577948483>where is my SONIC?>I need SONIC in every chapter>everyhting must be about SONIC,and how good SONIC is, and how much SONIC cock the other characters can suck>SONICSONICSONICSONICSONICSONICSONICback to the dark era with you
>>577947754why dafuq does clutch have a lookalike also dat one
>>577945906There isn't a problem with comparing SuperSonic to Supersaiyan. Its obviously inspired by it.The problem is people reducing it to just being SuperSaiyan when it isn't and never was.
>>577948509Everything is Western from the right perspective.
>>577948724Fuck you I want Knuckles.
>>577947087>>577946402>>577945471>>577945513>>577946698I don't know why do you people keep joking like that when Tangle and Whisper are literally canon Sonic characters, literally designed in part of Sonic Team and Uekawa, literally literally literally all approved and overseen by actual SEGA japanese interns. SEGA actually backs IDW and everything unlike Fartchie and Shatam.What is it gonna take you people to accept it?
>>577948909you are...correct
>>577946174>stone replicas are used as platforms in Mania's Heavy King fight.According to Whitehead, they are stone replicas of the Chaos Emeralds, not the Super Emeralds.
>>577948509It's been like this for years.I don't understand bitching about Hyper Sonic and the Super Emeralds being canon because them being canon is completely inconsequential.We don't even know if the Super Emeralds are anymore powerful than the Chaos Emeralds, as far as I'm aware you just need the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald to summon the Super Emeralds, which are functionally just a second set of Chaos Emeralds.
>>577948953OH YEAH?*punch you*THERE, MY KNUCKLES
>>577948724>>577949016Stop shilling your shitty lesbian couple. No one likes them or any stories with focus on them.
>>577948676Shorter wayWe of course know Blackwood is gonna fuck them both
I know this is probably going to get ignored but someone I know that has access to the relevant information in this place confirmed to me a few days ago that there is about 5-6 anons posting in here daily. The max amount of unique IPs he says he saw in here when he i asked him was 11 people and that was on a weekend several months ago.Anyway I bring this up because anyone whose lurking on her can be assured that all 5-6 anons posting on here daily definitely know eachother on other websites, they just come here because they want to be able to curse and say things they know they shouldn't with their public profile. There is no community in here. Just a handful of pants-on-head retarded autistic people.
>>577946360That would be stupid and reduce the super transformation to just a powerup anyone can get just for collecting the 7 rocks.This is what i mean by character laundering and scorekeeping.
I want to drown in Stick's untrimmed pubic bush
>>577949016Why do I need to "accept" anything?They're bad characters, thus I do not acknowledge them. It's really that simple.
>>577948724BoC mogs your therapy session garbage
>>577946843Why her? What about the deer girl?
>>577946519Silver's hair are stylized quills. Hedgehogs having quills which points up like hair can easily be turned into a hairstyle compared to cat, dog or whatever this guy is having massive locks of fur on his foreheadIt just look very forced and tacked on
>>577949137Like in Rocky Horror, when Frank 'N' Furter fucks both Brad and Janet.
>>577949016>IDWfag can't help but bring up CHADchieEverytime.
>>577948909>>577949018Right as in right wing?
>>577949279Damn mangas suck ass.
>>577949016>What is it gonna take you people to accept it?Them not being tied at the fucking hip in everything they're in
>>577948036>But only off screen, because Tangle can’t exist in a story without Whisper anymoreWhat else do they have lol
>>577949280because she has dapples so her name must be Dapple. Do you want me to explain why Tails is called Tails?
I won't read blade of slop either.
>>577948425“Force of nature” is extremely vague and can easily be twisted for anyone. What makes Tails *not* a force of nature for instance? He flies like the wind and can keep up with the wind after all. Also, equating other “supernatural” abilities falls into the same trap. It’s just lazy lorebuilding that allows the creator favorites to get special treatment
>>577949156Counterpoint, almost no one can actually get all seven Chaos Emeralds at once.Tails has only ever found I think 5 across all the games, the one he has at the start of SA1, the ones he gives to Sonic before the Perfect Chaos fight, the one he gets in 06's last story and the two he gets in Final Horizon.
>>577949283>It just look very forced and tacked onso does silver's hair
>>577949016If SoJ can magicially turn them into way more interesting characters than maybe I would reconsiderI just don't find anything interesting about them beyond their powers
>>577949507I had no clue it was a word like that (I thought it was a stupid name and forgot about it) so thanks for informing me. Too bad though, I don’t like her design all that much.
The lore team is angry again...you've really done it now..sigh
>>577949615I mean yes tails is more of an ascended normie than ''speshul'' i think knuckles not having one is favoritism though
>>577949680thats a huge brain mr. Silver
>>577946928I dont see anywhere where it suggests it was gonna be a thing in the game. You made it up
>>577949372It IS very "us vs them", but I'm not American so idkTribalism is as universal as stupidity
>>577949016How does this change the fact that they’re shit characters?
>>577949659He also finds another one in SA1 in the desert, and then he is given one for saving the city. He also finds 3 with Sonic in SA1.
>>577949156Not as dumb as “only hedgehogs can ever go super because uhhhh they’re da cooliest”
>>577949703yeah, I was expecting a cute dalmatian. But Blackwood looks nice so it's something
>ass of constipation*pukes* I want REAL 2000s Sonic, not some fucking shitty isekai shonen garbage shit that's just Sonic X 2. Get better standards jap niggers.
>>577948036Tangle is a nothing character. She has nothing going for her. So yes she needs other characters or else she doesnt do anything.
I think the new IDW stuff looks pretty good.
>>577950029Blade of Courage isn't "isekai shonen".
>>577949738>The lore team is angry againElaborate, vague boy
>>577950029Based.
>>577948217NTA but you are missing the point.Tailsbro's point is that the reason the scene doesnt show up is precisely because it wasn't intended as the proper story thing to begin with. It was always just an add-on bonus.They designed the game with SuperSonic in mind.The Mural in Hidden Palace isnt rainbow, its gold.
>>577949905Admittedly, I should've further clarified that those were the ones he found on his lonesome.I guess there's one in ShtH, but Shadow took that one and the one he uses for the space shuttle could've been given to him by Sonic.My point is being able to use the emeralds and actually having the emeralds are two very different things, so different that it makes up the majority of Frontiers' plot.
canon maid cafe
>>577950029anon, do you even know what isekai means???because this isn't one
>>577949020That's a li--https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/902946335434825728>You’re unable to view this Post because this account owner limits who can view their Posts.What an asshole, fucking up the preservation of these devtweets.When he said "their absense", he replying to what the tweet was obviously asserting about the Super Emeralds. In fact, I distinctly remember the tweet mentioned them!That stupid selfish ashole.
I hope you crash headfirst into a bus full of retarded children and your car catches on fire from the fluid of the power steering.
>>577948753that's a cat not a possum
>>577950029You pissed off the weeaboos, based.
>>577950083>So yes she needs other characters or else she doesnt do anything.The pair her with better characters, like Tails or Amy, or the Chaotix, or FUCKING SONIC or JEWEL, HER ACTUAL INTENDED BEST FRIEND
>>577948724Tailscel...
>>577950324>Admittedly, I should've further clarified that those were the ones he found on his lonesome.Like the one in the desert?
Forces is better than Mania
>>577949962A Dalmatian with a unique spot design would’ve been cool. I was hoping for either the deer or the owl lady but ah well. And yes, Blackwood looks good, I like the unique font they decided to go with.
Only 1 day and 15 hours until Fortnite
>>577950590Offtopic. See you in three days.
>>577950580No it is not
>>577950484I bet there's less than 3 people on here with a Driver's license. I'm not joking.
>>577950473Check the Wayback Machine
>>577945576>>577945763>All of these cute OCs in maid outfits
>>577950649Im sorry your janitor application wasn't approved, better luck next time!
>>577949680It only looks forced and tacked on when his forehead quills is not the center and focal point of his design. By making Silver's eyes bigger it pushes his forehead quills upwards, he's meant to have smol eyes which lowers his forehead quills and puts it in the center of his design
>>577950574Yeah, like that one, and unlike the ones he found with Sonic's help.Tails, at no point in the series, has ever had all seven emeralds to himself, so even if he can use them, he's never had the opportunity.
>>577950654correct
>>577950649sorry anon, but is sorta on topic since sonic is coming to fortnite
>>577949016Dude, we dont even fully respect canon game characters. Why would IDW OCs being DLC crossover slip in CrossWorlds factor into whether we like them or not? Are you 12? Did you not all watch the same Slopmerican cartoons that tought you this lesson about?No stupid. Being seen as "real Sonic characters" isnt gonna nor does it obligate anyone to like them. Its never worked that way. It doesnt even make sense to expect it to work this way.I like Jewel, Belle, Clutch and Starline independant of whether they are Sega approves because I like their characters and think they are good.
>>577950778the left one looks much more natural than the right one
>>577950665Yes it is, westfaggot
>>577950778I also noticed old silver had quills only a little longer than sonic's and less droopy, the new one is changed to look like chaos 0 for some reason. i prefer drawing with shorter quills.
>>577950938>reddit spacingYup. This is to be ignored.
>>577950473The original post was about "the cracked Super emeralds" which he corrects by saying they are stone replicas, of the chaos emeralds. Because the super emeralds arent a thing.
>>577950938> I like Belle because I like their character and think they are good.You had me up until that
>>577950938This.
I don't like BoC because Sonic's wife isn't in it.
>>577950514>leech her onto actually good characters so she can climb the meta hierarchy.Tanglefags are no better than Blazefags.Keep her in Whisper Jail where she belongs.
>>577951184straight sonknux
>>577950819Actually, I just remembered Tails had them all + all the Sol Emeralds in Rush Adventure, but he didn't find any of them by himself and he only used them to get himself and Sonic back home.So I guess Tails has used the combined power of all seven Chaos Emeralds exactly one time, by technicality.
>>577949791I said to look at the trivia too, you disillusioned disobedient.>In the 0517 prototype of the cancelled, combined Sonic 3 - Limited Edition, Tails could become Super Tails with the Chaos Emeralds however, while using an S Monitor will instead transform him into Hyper Tails. Since the build seems to predate the final Sonic & Knuckles, it is possible that Tails was planned to have two separate transformations in the original release of Sonic 3 & Knuckles.Proof that the original devs were working on two different Emerald states for Tails just like Sonic and Knuckles!(To be fair, maybe the wiki should've organized this better instead of making it a sub-bulletpoint to something almost unrelated - clearly the product of autists writing over each other like very other bloated wiki.)
People hate plenty of canon characters. Silver and Elise, for example.
>>577951282More like straight sonjet
>>577951184>I don't like BoC because Sonic's wife isn't in it. yet
OOOOOWWWWWSLOPPY SLOPPY SLOPPY SLOPPYOOOOOOWWWSLOPPY SLOPPY SLOPPY SLOPPYOOOOOOOOOWWSLOPPY SLOP SLOPPYOOOOOOOWWWWSLOP SLOP SLOP SLOPOOOOOOOOWWWWSLOPPYY
Don't you guys ever get bored just repeating the same thing over and over again with no one responding to you?
What happened to the Sonic the Hedgehog General userbase to make it more pro Archie less pro Japan than in 2023
>>577951474*pours salt on you*
>>577951408Only westcucks
>>577951087He wrote "their" (in response to the original post) and "Chaos Emeralds" as separate subjects, ESL-kun.
>>577949659>Counterpoint, almost no one can actually get all seven Chaos Emeralds at once.The characters all did in 06. Then they bring them to Sonic to revive him and so he can go super.Shadow gets them in ShtH.Regardless I dont see how this is a counterpoint to what I said.It doesn't add anything to the narrative to have Tails go super in the plot. Its just a thing you want for status fag reasonsI'd much rather Tails get something all his own instead that ties back to his tech skills and believing in himself.
>>577951575We didn't gatekeep hard enough
>>577951057>silver had quills only a little longer than sonicback then Sonic had longer quills
https://poal.me/2d05t
>>577951583OOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW
>>577945576>Sylvania CastleThe Sonic 4 location?
>>577951616>I'd much rather Tails get something all his own instead that ties back to his tech skills and believing in himself.That would require creatively and/or effort that Sonic Team does not have
>>577951589japcucks make up about 2% of the fanbase. if sonic stopped appealing to westies, sega would just ditch the ip wholesale.
>>577951589... aka the one single audience keep Sonic alive for years whereas japanese don't even know, or think Sonic came from actually Sonic games!
>>577951786>Sylvania Castle Zone - Sonic and Tails explore the flooded ruins near Never Lake, only to discover Little Planet is in peril
>>577949916That was never stated.Iizuka said "only the male hedgehogs can go super" as in "Only Sonic, Shadow and Silver".You can make a hedgehog OC in Forces and they cant go super.
>>5779516704th option, (You)
Can you please stop ban evading before they rangeban my area to get you to stop posting on here? If it happens again, I'm not going to bother telling them to drop it.
>>577951786yeah
>>577951975But I'm not a jap purist?
>>577951408Elise is only hated for shipshit and Silver is actually popular in the west now despite the controversies.
Which is more like Star Wars / LOTR / Marvel / DC, Sonic movies of Sonic comics
>>577951967That’s even worse, racist AND sexist. On top of confirming my belief that it’s all about favoritism for the creator pets
>>577949916>>577951967only people who can use chaos control can go super, it's not hard to understand
>>577951616I never implied it had to be a super form specifically.If anything I'm against that, I'm only okay with Neo Metal, Shadow and Blaze having emerald forms like Sonic's because they themselves are physically like Sonic, but even then the only one that should have the exact same form as Sonic should be Neo Metal, after copying Sonic, though I guess he could use Shadow's if he copied him instead.Emerald transformations should be unique like Perfect Chaos, Ultimate G-merl and Dragon Trip, not just knockoffs of Super Sonic.
>>577952027Not him but this website isn't worth the effort to even bam evade anymore. Like 70% of the posts made on this website nowadays are bots.
>>577952119the movies. they even started doing 'required homework' spinoff shit with the knuckles tv show.
So I'm reading that Maria isn't Geralt's niece or daughter, she's his granddaughter.What is Maria to Ivo?
Tails should have a kitsune super form where he gets 9 tails
>>577951057Yeah I don't know why they changed his quills to be constantly bent down like Chaos 0, it just looks bad
>>577951078So how's r/sonicthehedgejerk?
>>577951963>remember name?!Thanks Ian, very cool.
>>577952313Cousin
>>577952204Then why can only male hedgehogs use chaos control? Rhetorical btw, it’s ST’s racist favoritism
>>577952432Oh.Shame, it'd have been interesting if they were siblings, Eggman and Shadow could sympathize over their grief, Eggman's old and buried, Shadow's still fresh.
>>577952417Holy fucking obsession
>>577952407there is this thing called gravity
>>577951102Slashy....The point is idgaf if Tangle is official or not. I think Tangle is a shit character and think whisper is only slightly better.I dont defend trash likr Mighty & Ray jist because they are sugar Japanese geimue kyarakutazu
>>577952432Cousin??
>>577950414
>>577952119only Archie feels like a mix of all 4 of those pop culture franchises
>>577952561This is a jp general faggot
>SlashyHasn't been on here in almost 2 years btw. You fucking schizo
>>577952647>uwuver is japanese approved tooERMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM AURAVERBROS?????
>>577952407Sonic, Silver, and Shadow are meant to have a similar silhouette at a glance so that is the likely reason for the change
>>577951405>Sonic 3Original post said Sonic 2.Also that stuff doesnt imply it at all. If anything the fact it said hypertension from the start suggests thry went out of their way to not have him have a regular Superform and the autism around him needing the Super Emeralds was deliberate.And that makes sense because Naka has stated they had all the time they needed for Sonic & Knuckles.
>>577952756He's not crossdressing to be fair, it's just that it looks like a skirt because there's an apron with no pants, but it is still a butler outfitthis though, is uwuver in japan.
Threesome with Silver Blackwood and Dapple
>>577952407Name 1 Marza model that just isn't a straight up downgrade from previous character modelsSeriously, how long are going to be stuck with these models? It's been 18 years, 20 since they were used in Shadow 05 manual and the cgi cutscenes
>>577951613I think youre trying to hard to languageshark. The intention was very obvious. He has no reason to say Chaos Emeralds there otherwise.
>>577953005gass all faggots
>>577951616>The characters all did in 06Each of them found one, one of them did not find all of them, unless you count Mephiles, but there's way too much wrong with him being able to summon all the emeralds to him from a writing standpoint, that's obviously retarded.>Shadow gets them in SthHShadow is among the infinitesimal amount of people who have collected all seven, yes.
>>577952538I'm serious Ian, or Kyle, or whoever sycophantic lackey you're using, even the suckups at the Sonic Wiki Zone are highlighting the original website description that leaves the lake vague.
>>577951804We get it, you made hating Sonic Team your core personality. You can take Ian's dick out your mouth now and come up for air.
Has anyone else noticed that for like a year straight now, every single plot device in the IDW comic is someone using mind control?Can they at least try to make a proper villain with stakes involved? I mean this is getting REALLY repetitive now.
>>577952756It's just a waiter apron
Mr. Yuji Naka is okay
>>577953007I don't know what you expect from the new model because Silver has long hair, those quills aren't going up
>>577945763Look at all those maids for Silver to impregnate.
>>577953193>Has anyone else noticed that for like a year straight now, every single plot device in the IDW comic is someone using mind control?They're taking notes from Sonic Team
>>577951835Westies are the acrual minority. Most Sonicfags are either indifferent or just have a vague idea of what Sonic is based on their memories of the previous games and Sonic X, which is JPstuff.Sonic is a JP series that grew up in the west.Like Goku being a Saiyan from Earth.
>>577952973>glasses is uwuI think I just realized that most people here genuinely think they were cool in high school and have been acting as such, when they very much weren’t
>>577952825That doesn't really work when Silver's head spines are always erect, even when he isn't using his powers.They've had over 20 years to rectify this, they just haven't.
>>577953178Sup sega shill
>>577953178Fuck Ian too, he made the conscious choice to acknowledge Sonic Team’s shit writing choices as fact instead of just writing the characters how they should be
Wow another robot that can go super
I refuse to believer there us someone in here right now that doesn't understand how gravity works. You are baiting and probably replying to yourself, mongoloid.
>>577952162>That’s even worse, racist AND sexist.????It's saying its 3 specific individuals. It has nothing to do with race or sex. Also my statement doesn't make it any more those things than before.>favoritism for the creator petsNever write anything lol. Youre projecting hard.>>577952204Correct!
>>577953362It's not about thatthe context is that besides silver and blaze, all male characters wear rectangle glasses and all female characters wear circular glasses. and we know that blaze deliberately implied to be masculine and prince-like so the glasses on her is deliberate, so you know what it implies.
>>577953345This everyone likes 06 and Forces better than Mania
>Sylvania Forest/CastleI like how 2 of the handful of locations in IDW that are actually from the games are based on Sonic fucking 4.
>>577953540If that was true he would’ve specified that instead of saying “male hedgehogs”. They absolutely wanted them to mirror saiyans and make everyone else irrelevant in the process, just like DBZ their well-stated influence
>>577950649mmmmmmmmmmmmmNYO!
>>577953037>He has no reason to say Chaos Emeralds there otherwise.... Because scattering is what they've been established to do, causing a dimensional reaction with the Super Emeralds! That shouldn't be too hard to understand.
>>577953532If you haven't noticed already, like half the posts made in the past hour is just one guy replying to himself with multiple different topics to make this place look populated. I think it's a bot. Nothing else explains why this place started going 4 times faster than it usually does out of nowhere.
>>577950778I do wish they kept aspect of his quills being more relaxed when he's not using his powers
>>577953345>frontiers sold >5m copies>japan bought 1.5% of them>shadow generations sold 14k total in japanlol.lmao, even.
>>577953818>>577953530I can't believe there are zoomers who believe this garbage Fornite 3d model look nice.
>>577953172No retard, I mean you're being very obsessed and throwing Ian on something completely unrelated. This isn't a reference or anything, this is just taking a location off a game and putting it in another medium to save time and make Sonic fans feel better with the comic. Ian isn't even writing this.Go off, Slashy.
>>577952315So he'd end up with 11 tails? Phrasing, anon.
Ok m*llenial
Iizuka saying only male hedgehogs can turn super is like Toriyama saying only male Saiyans can turn super.It's not that women are incapable of doing it, it's that only the men have so far, Toriyama said that when he thought Dragon Ball was over, when there was no more to Pan or Bulla beyond the few pages they had in the epilogue.
>Slashy againOh, so you ARE just replying to yourself. Lmfao.
>>577953271I expect them to give Silver a model that looks they way he was introduced. Even his Rivals and Riders Zero Gravity model keeps his spines more up, not just 06
>>577952235>Dragon Triphttps://youtu.be/FgEoDmY2A3M
>>577953979his quills move in Crossworlds when he use his powers
>>577954019the hell do the comics have to do with this aaaaaaaaaaa
>>577953585Nobody does, keep deluding yourself japcuck. Or better yet, follow the sacred tradition and seppuku yourself
>>577952313Where did the meme that he was his niece or daughter come from? Pretty sure she's been his granddaughter in ever piece of media.>What is Maria to Ivo?Eggman and Maria are cousins.
>>577954413that guy put too much salt on his eggs
>>577954427/sthg/ agrees with me
>>577954351If nothing else, it is unique.
>>577954020Are you going to agree with my idea or just be a semanticsfag
>>577952725Liar>>577952679Good
If you don't take better care of your spines you won't able to get an erection
me and who in this room
>>577954678but what's the point of an erection?
Ever notice that every anon who prefaces "NTA" is a samefag?
All things Sonic doesn't mean "only this specific kind of Sonic".
>>577954678I'm a girl so...
>>577954579Oh I do agree he should get more tails. 7 more so he'll end up with 9
>>577954787It shows you're strong and healthy
Whitehead ruined Sonic
>>577954214Yeah it’s less the “male” part and more the “hedgehogs” part. And if you can’t do that they should introduce unique forms like Orange Piccolo or Beast Gohan
>>577953158Anon, Sonic didn't collect all the emeralds himself in SA1, SA2 or Heroes, 06, etc to go Super either.Silver sure as shit didn't. Shadow didnt in SA2.
*Dabs on your canon lore*
>>577954827should we let exefags in?
>>577954824nta but that's not true
https://litter.catbox.moe/j1oe7c.png
>Sonic? you mean that tall blue guy from fortnut has games?>huh? why is he so short?
>>577954840girls hedgehogs still have spines
>>577953193>every single plot device in the IDW comic is someone using mind control?You mean just Starline? Who only did it like 2times?
>>577954975Nobody told them to go away, they left to greener pastures
>>577954824Of the five NTAs in this thread, two are me and the A in question was not me. So... NTA, but I can't speak for the others.
>>577955014nice
>>577953982Are you being retarded on purpose? Frontiers is JPfaggotry. That's why it sold.As it turns out, even americans prefer JPkino. Westies are the minority.
>>577954903Good that’s what I meant, but you knew that
>>577954840Okay then save your backspines to make entry easier.
>>577955218don't forget to thank the best jpkino writer to date
>>577954975We already do, they just don't post here.
>>577954924I do want Tails and Knuckles to have their own special forms that thematically fits their characters with Tails special form being complimentary to Super Sonic and Knuckles special form acting as a contrast and counter to Super Sonic
>>577955218The movies (westshit) are the most successful Sonic product since the 2000s
>>577955218Frontiers isn't JP, it's Nintendo, who are their own special brand of faggotry. And Nintendo was just copying Ubisoft, so we've looped back to the west again.
>>577953994Is probably as good as it gets, can’t do shit when you have to stick to a universal hitbox for everyone
>>577955443I don't get the movies argument, movies are more succesful not because of their story or content quality but because of pure accesibility.yes a big screen hollywood thing has more mainstream audience than +20 year old janky games, so what
>>577954824NTA because no we arent all the same person.
>>577954827Yes it does because the others are not the real Sonic.
>>577955657Yes but they’re also successful from a Hollywood standpoint. They all were profitable and acclaimed, each one moreso than the last (almost unheard of for a movie trilogy)
movies bring awareness and hypehype buys gamesgames do better than they have in yearsfrontiers was not a good game, it just had the boost
>>577954938He did in Rush, probably Advance 1 and 2, but I don't remember. He found them multiple times in Frontiers alone, Shadow tricking Sonic with the fake was a retcon and we don't know where Sonic got all the emeralds from in Unleashed's opening.Funnily enough, Johnny of all people found each and every one of them in Rush Adventure, he just kept losing them to Sonic.Shadow got them in ShTH too.I'm not sure what the point of this post was, it literally only supports my claim that almost nobody in-universe can find all seven by themselves.
>>577955843The most well received one was 3 which is reusing jp material from sa2
>every character needs to be equal in power and all have glaze forms that on the level of Super Sonic because.....Because!!!!Why tho
JP faggots don't want or care about Sonic being good
>>577955838If they aren't real how can I see them?
>>577955992
>>577955361Ian didn't write the story. He wrote the dialogue. >>577955443The movie would have bombed if JPshit wasnt put into the movies. Westies wanted him to look like a generic realsitic alien hedgehog thing because 'murican Hollywood logic. The best movie is based on SA2 which is JPshit.>>577955480>making shit up>making even more shit up>coping
>>577956237Frontiers would have bombed if not for movie 1 and 2
>>577955963There is nothing suggesting Adv 1 was just him. The others help in Frontiers and they are on the island because they were drawn there anyway.Adv 2 has seperate collection processes for every character actually.
You guys whine so much when you could be happy instead.
>>577956183Illiterate-kun...>>577956201$2The $1 is everyone having shillforms on par with Super Sonic for no reason.Actually its worse. Its like 2 cents.
>Nintendo makes Metroid>it becomes more popular overseas than in Japan>the west make their own Metroid games, they're fucking awesome>Japan start making Metroid games again after the west stops, all three of them are considered the worst games in the entire franchise>Metroid fans do not have a problem with thisCould you imagine how insane this post sounds if you replaced every instance of the words "Metroid" and "Nintendo" with "Sonic" and "Sonic Team"?
>>577956237The West fans are the ones who complained, shitnuts. They literally set the standard and now EVERY fanbase that gets a movie adaptation thinks they can bully the studio into changing shit they don’t like. But only Western Sonicfags were autistic and dedicated enough to actually do it
>>577956729Illiterate-kun, $1 for 1 super form, $2 for more. Literally why not? Other than to slurp the blue guy
>>577954824NTA what does "NTA" mean?
>>577956827to be fairsamus aran is hot
>>577956537Okay, but that still leaves Rush, and technically Rush Adventure and Generations.Sonic has done it before, without any help, so it stands to reason that he could do it again.
>>577957075And Sonic isn't?The Power Suit stays on.
>>577954924Fuck it, Give Tails a Five Tailed Daemon Fox form for his super. And the full Nine tails for hyper.
>>577956681omega's feet...right there for the taking...
>>577956827hapened to star fox too
What if Sonic was gay?What if Sonic defeated Infinite on his own?What if Sonic fought superpowered recolored hedgehogs?What if Sonic's universes were all combined?This is why fanfiction is awesome and more men should make it
>>577958025The crackhead look is hotter
>>577955434Agreed, but ST clearly isn’t creative/doesn’t care enough to come up with designs like that for the non-hedgehogs, so the best we can realistically hope for is the super forms to return
>>577958025The redesigns in general are fucking awful. Katt is just the worst example.
>>577953789>>577951786GUYS, RED-ALERT.We already had "Floral Forest Chao Garden" canonized; we're going to get the name of the Never Lake landmass canonized next!PLACE YOUR BETS IF IT'S "MIRAGE ISLAND" OR SOMETHING NEW!!
>>577955859We can't trust Sonic Team to just make good game, that's the problemblame Sonic Team, blame Sega, blame Sammy, blame management, it doesn't matter who you blame. It's not gonna make this company suddenly become competent and not making stupid decisions and fucking up shit. They can't even make a physics engine and controls for Sonic that feels nice, smooth and fun to just move around. Especially when they won't let the Boost gameplay go which makes Sonic stiff to move around
>>577958074I actually write a fair amount of fanfiction, but it never goes very far. As soon as I get the basic premise down plus a few extra chapters, I am overcome with the feeling that I should be working on my original fiction instead.
I will stand by Shadow Generations being a great game, there is very little for me to criticize and I cannot say the same for SA1 or SA2.When the most complaints a game can have are about what it didn't do instead of what it did do, it likely didn't do much wrong.
>Bump got CWD deer disease>has 100% mortality rate and is incurable>she will grow incredibly senile until death as the prion eats her brain
>>577958772Just robotisize her. That'll fix things.
>>577956429I dunno about bombed but the movie undeniably helped.I think the premise of the game and the bus on socials would have been enough for it to do okay.>>577956827>the west make their own Metroid games, they're fucking awesomeThey all sold less though.
>>577958772>incredibly senile until death as the prion eats her brainSo nothing will happen to her then
Sonic frontiers? more like sonic train simulator. wtf is up with all those grind rails? you call that a sonic game?
>>577958752gameplaywise, it's good, but I fucking hate both generations games for existing, storywise. sonic already had a convoluted nonsense of a plot and these do not help
>>577956852>The West fans are the ones who complained, shitnuts.Why does this matter? They want JPkino, nit WestSlop.The place of origin of the people complaining literally doesnt matter. The substance of the thing they want does.
>>577958772bump doesn't have a brain
>>577957042Why are you treating this as a inter-character status competition?The emeralds and the limits around who can use em matters for plot and themes.
why are you replying to bait? just say sonamy is not canon and drop the collage and watch they/them change course
>>577958209Bad priorities.
>>577958987Those rails and platforms in the sky were added later in development when Frontiers was originally just gonna be more open with focus on combat until some playtesters had to tell them that Sonic is a platformer
>>577956681Are you happy?
>>577958295>>577944147>they turned Vanilla's "Flicky Garden" into a Chao Garden>also I just realized that Super Tails' "Super Flicky" is Cheese's predecessor>and the Chao suddenly populate Angel Island as of Knuckles' Frontiers animationWhy are the Chao committing Flicky erasure?
my pronoun is xher/xhim
>>577959326tripamy is the best amy pairing and second best trip pairingthanks for the trip thread, wish it had more trip
>>577958912They did not sell less than Other M and Federation Force, what are you talking about? Both of those games are considered total flops and their underperformance in lifetime sales confused the hell out of Nintendo.
>>577959429does knowing this random trivia make it any better? it's still a train fucking sim
>>577959213I just want more cool shit in general for more characters, as everyone should. Just BS a reason, that’s what they already do anyway
>>577959495Chao and small animals coexist. They always have.
>>577958301>muh fyzix
>>577958752Being "good" isn't enough. I would rather an imperfect game that leaves an impression and does something noteworthy than just a game that is "le good".
>>577959938BoC is non canon.
>>577959495>they turned Vanilla's "Flicky Garden" into a Chao GardenIt was never stated to by a "Flicky Garden", wild birds fly wherever they want>also I just realized that Super Tails' "Super Flicky" is Cheese's predecessorThose Flickies were powered up the 7 emeralds. Regular Flickies are just normal birds and not that strong>and the Chao suddenly populate Angel Island as of Knuckles' Frontiers animationChao originated from Angel Island when them and Chaos was protecting the Master Emerald Shrine. Have you ever played SA1, you know the game that introduced the Chao?
The jap vision is shit.AOSTH is the original intention.
>>577960301Nice try Chris.
>>577960287>I want 06 over Colors
>>577959938Anon I don't see a flicky there
>>577960403Who? I literally mean it, it's not canon as SEGA said. Or do you think Archie is canon too like that stupid everything is canon statement?
>>577960431See here >>577960403Flickies are a type of small animal
>>577960287I said Shadow Generations was great, not just good.
>>577958301They gave up trying to make Sonic control well for Frontiers so they let players tweak it, and if you need to let players tweak movement for a platformer, then you didn't actually do your job as a game designer
>>577960386>The jap vision died with Naka. Iizuka’s only “vision” is safe mediocrity
>>577959619>They did not sell less than Other M and Federation Force,Federation Force was a random handheld spinoff. Why would you expect it to sell like a mainline game?Echoes sold less and Other M didnt sell meaningfully less than Prime3.>OtherM>FlopIt was critically panned by diehard fans but the game itself didn't sell meaningfully poor for the standards of the series, which has always been low.
>>577960119If you want to press the boost button to actually move fast and be magnified to steep surfaces that's on you
>>577960583>Shadow GenerationsBland nostalgiaslop boost rehash.
>>577960431whoops >>577960403 disregard>>577960475>it's not canon as SEGA saidSEGA never said that; SoA media managers cowardly use their personal accounts to say such things because Ian made it in vogue.
>>577959747No?>cool shitSure but why does it have to be an inter-character statusfag competition?
>>577960673I don't. I just dont determine the quality of the game based on whether or not the game has me press the crouch button to go down a hill or not.
Dude is so fancy he gets a different font than anyone else
>>577960673>magnified*magnetized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMdAsFiCVcA
>>577958752>what it didn't doBe a fun and original experience>what it did doRecycle aesthetics and plot points from better gamesYeah I'll stay with the superior Adventure games, not your shitty rehash>>577958989>gameplaywise, it's goodNo it fucking isn't.>I fucking hate both generations games for existingGood. Consider hating the 3DS one as well while you're at it.
>>577960768Yes. “Male hedgehogs” is not a legit reason it’s a DBZ gimmick. If anyone is making it a “character statusfag competition” it’s ST catering to their favored pets
>>577948297>"It's beautiful. Even bigger than the ARK."
>>577960312>wild birds fly wherever they wantFair.>Those Flickies were powered up the 7 emeralds.I'm talking gameplaywise. Chao Attack operates almost just like a Super Flicky, just not on auto.>Chao originated from Angel IslandThat group was killed by the echidnas thousands of years ago, which enraged Chaos. Angel Island was depicted as Chao-less until the Frontiers prologue. I guess we'll just have to assume Knuckles let some back on the island after SA1.
>>577961636Chao just live anywhere that has clean water
Sugar and Eggs
Sonic Rumble Sticks datamine
>DykeslopWhere are my faggots?
>>577961728
>>577961870>they're gonna like on Never LakeWonderful.
>>577960636No, Other M did not sell more than any Metroid Prime game.Prime 1 sold 2,840,000, Prime 2 sold 1,100,000, Prime 3 sold 1,855,000, even Prime Hunters sold 1,080,000, and these numbers aren't their lifetime sales, Other M's lifetime sales are 955,578 and Nintendo claimed that it surpassed 1 million after a full year and significantly lowing the cost.https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Metroid#Metroid_Prime_seriesIf I'm wrong, feel free to correct me with more accurate information.This also isn't taking into account that Mercury Steam, the team behind the remake of Metroid 2 and Dread, aren't Japanese either, they're based in Spain.
x>>577961890>He might be able to outlast surgehe will btfo surge before a whole minute passes* it took that long with sonic because sonic is nice and doesn't approach with the intent to kill. usually.>inb4 redeemnici hate redeemnic
pink deer is dapple
>>577961905>>577962093This thread needs less IDW and more Sticks
>>577961890>Editorial too afraid to admit how admit how much of a jobber Surge is.
>>577961905
Gentle reminder that Sticks was created by Sonic Team and designed by Uekawa. She is not a western character.
>>577962427OI!!
what if sticks met stitch
I wish i could hug a blobian kid, no not pedo shit i just want a son.
>>577962723get orange cat petextra points if it's a pallas cat
>>577962427>>577963008Member when people thought Sticks was Boom Marine?
Sonic Adventure ruined the series because it introduced Chao. They're just too cutesy and childish unlike my mature Classic Sonic games.
>>577960914>Silver looking up at the bubbleI love this guy
Fucking anon like a blobian
>>577961870I do wish Chao was able to be any element than just water. Chaos and the Ancients too, them embodying all elements not just waterBut there might a deeper lore reason why they are only water themedSonic X-treme having the plot summary of the Master Emerald shattering releasing 6 deadly creatures called the "Chaos Elementals" kinda supports this idea
>Have you seen froggy?
>>577963327THE BODY IS ROUND
>>577934334>>577934453
Sticks was a mistake
> "my favorite"
>>577963460>Hello mister. have you seen a round frog that looks like this? *shows a bad crayon doodle*
>>577960386The Jap vision gave us lost world.I am certain that they have no fucking idea about what they are even doing.
Trip wasn't a mistake
Was it kino?https://youtu.be/qdwLAmnihIw
>>577963279The original reason was just that they wanted to use water because they liked the Dreamcast's ability to render transparency/water. Anyway, The Final Horizon explained that there were other tribes of Ancients, and we only ever saw the watery ones. The other Ancient tribes had the body shapes of each of the Titans. Our tribe assumes that they were all killed by The End, I've been wondering if they'll expand on them in the next game
>jap visionYuji Naka's vision********You don't want """japshit""" you want Yuji Naka back
>>577963792I want Naka supervising, Iizuka in the director's chair while designing levels, and Maekawa writing
>>577963708I spy a nipple.
>>577963075I member (I was one of them)
>>577963934Not a nipple. It's a scale. You can tell because it's in the completely wrong spot.
>>577961636You'd think Chao would've been introduced in Sonic 4 or Superstars. Their complete absense in pre-Adventure feels strange. Maybe there should've been a line in Adventure about how the Chao are a newly-rediscovered endangered species, but iirc there is no such line.Speaking of weird lorepoints, does Onyx Island still float? Archie shows that it doesn't. Maybe Angel Island was supposed to be renamed to Onyx Island in the Sonic Chronicles 2 sequel (assuming Knuckles doesn't restore it after the crash in the first game)?>>577963789>The original reason was just that they wanted to use water because they liked the Dreamcast's ability to render transparency/water.I wonder if that was just Naka PRing the Dreamcast at the time. I half-expect that we'll one day find out that Chaos was intended for the Saturn version.
>>577963512I don't really care about Sticks, find her raspy voice annoying and her being a paranoid conspiracy nut extremely one-note. She's a gag character but not a fun one, Big is already a way more fun gag character, a big lovable oaf
>>577963717Why is this a ship?
>>577964056>Maybe there should've been a line in Adventure about how the Chao are a newly-rediscovered endangered speciesThat would be retarded.
>>577963627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyOuM-xVvOIit's a reference to this
Good to know more Tangle and Whisper is on the menu <3
>>577963789>Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked
>>577964441I would like for you to inhale some anthrax
>>577964274I know the reference
>>577963075But she is.
>>577964637Maekawa also confused Marine with Sticks at one point
>>577961148>Yes. “Male hedgehogs” is not a legit reason it’s a DBZ gimmickNo it isn't.>If anyone is making it a “character statusfag competition” it’s ST catering to their favored petsNo they aren't.
>>577963789I believe the tribes was just based on the different forms of Chaos 0 through 6
Sonamy if it was awesome.
>>577964743Do you mean the tweet saying he wanted silver blaze sticks team up? most likely but idk
Beast Sonic
>>577965060Yeah
>>577963279Extreme was being made by SoA sevs, not Sonic team.Thr relationship between chao and water is an extension of the environmentalism themes of the series.
>>577964090She's westshit coded
>>577934668Anon?
>>577963648Lost World wasnt the JP vision. It was made to appeal to SoA burger demands.
>>577965117but there are more environments than just water
>>577965273Mandates state that Anon never gets with anyone ever.
06 was jp kino
>>577964880>”nuh uh!”Are you 5?
yuji naka left and took the vision with him. you don't want "japshit" because slop like lost world and forces are what you get. you want yuji naka back
I like Big.I unironically like his design.I unironically like his character.I unironically like his frog.I unironically like his house.I unironically like his song.I unironically like his gloves.I unironically like his ears.I unironically like his belly.I unironically like his eyes.I unironically like his easter eggs.I unironically like Big. I know he was a dumb meme. I know SoA tried to force him as the funniest fucking lol ironic character to nonfans. I think he's cute and pleasant.His early levels in Adventure were pretty shitty though
>>577965461I want Yuji Naka back but he doesn't want to go back
>>577965286>word equivocationStop
>>577964920I sure can't wait for them to have a fandom so they can say the other is raping them
>>577965461Yuji Naka got what he deserved.
>>577965060>time traveler>dimension hopper>cavemanI can see the appeal of such trio
>>577965372>says untrue things>be shocked someone says "no".Are you?>>577965461Lost World was made with Westshit SoA PR agenda in mind.Forces was a good idea executed like ass.
What kind of show is Sonic Prime? I just finished Boom, and it was a good little thing to have on while eating breakfast. Prime similar or is it trying to be taken seriously?
Reminder that Sonia is cannon
>>577965745sonic will NEVER date your wafiu BESTIE.>see you in 2027yeah see you in 2027.
>>577965789>Forcws was a good ideaKek
I finished every level of hotline miami 2 in hard mode (even the abyss) so now i'm happy.Which sonic game should i play?
>>577965480Big bros rise up
If the Fornite collab is canon, then Zonic is canon
>>577966027God I remember that image.
>>577965978It was though. Infinite is cool. >>577965979Sonic Riders 1
>>577966005
>>577941860Bot has soul
>>577966113in theory haremshit should make the males more attractive but it makes it less charming instead
>>577965789They are very true. Male hedgehogs = saiyans in the minds of ST, they get special treatment
Sonic characters for this feel?https://youtu.be/honB3qqlZeE
>>577964909That doesn't make much sense, that's 7 forms and 5 Titans. It also contradicts the game, Tiger designed the Titans after the other tribes
>>577948519"Uuuuu Tangle dicks feel so good"https://files.catbox.moe/a58y62.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/l0zox3.png
mallow box
>>577966453 (Me)*4Also yes I'm aware we don't see all the forms, but they still theoretically existRegardless the game says it directly
>>577966453You mean 4 Titans
We need more Ancients loreRIGHTNOW
>>577966634Yeah, 4 Titans and 5 tribes
>>577966113What's the most absurd haremshit you can find?I like searched artsites for stuff like this
>>577966816Yes.
>>577966514the therapy Whisper needs
Here's your meal, anon!
>>577963789So there was a four legged tribe and draconic tribe of Ancients?
>>577967107imagine Kit's crosseyed loling tongue as I slurp his brain out of his system
Sonic Crossworlds X Fortnite confirmedYou are NOT escaping the FortniteI told you, get ready for a whole year of this
i can't believe movie sonic predicted snort fight 6 years ago
>>577967496Not a surprise when Sonic crosses over with anything that moves
>>577967196Yes>>577967496ANOTHER whole year you mean
>>577961890Surge is gonna wreck all your favsFirst MetalThen Whisper and BlazeNow Shadow's gonna job...
>>577966113I thought Tangle was the og in the middle.
Sega doing literally anything but making a new Sonic game
>>577967496Sonic the Hedgewhore
Sonic is a sellout.
>>577964920???
One of the best parts of Sonic as a character is that while he helps influence others to be their best selves, he doesnt typically have a super hands on aproach to it, instead letting others around him come to their own conclusions and decide for themsleves what they want and who they wanna be.In SA1, Tails and Amy both come to their epiphanies on their own through self examination and their experiences rather than Sonic or some other entities having to preach to them.Sonic in BK just offers his perspective to Merlina. He offers Shara a mountain of hankerchiefs. Even in X he just waits for Chris to come to the conclusion he would on his own.Its great because it doesnt infantize the characters he makes an impression on. Everyone's agency is respected.Sonic acts more as an example for people to take inspiration from rather than a preacher forcing people to agree with him.
>>577967805This dialouge better not be Ianism
WE LOVE FORTNITEWE LOVE FORTNITE
>>577968220It isn't, Ian didn't write those scenes, they came from Sonic Team (we don't know who exactly)
>>577966331>Male hedgehogs = saiyans in the minds of ST, they get special treatmentNo
>>577968321Yes.
cnc
>>577964920Hi! Hehe.
For anyone who was wondering what that Pink Doe with the short antlers name was.
>>577968723Clapping Dapple's apples
>>577968723The other way aroundI didnt care about her name, we wondered who that name belongs to
>>577968723>Not revealing everything,lies.
>>577968141Here's a better one.Cream and Amy are exactly who you'd expect.
Senoue: Someone has a bitter look on his face… (laughs)Everyone: (looks at Iizuka)Senoue: There is something that Iizuka has been telling me for a long time. “Let’s write a theme song for Sonic.”Iizuka: I want a theme song for Sonic!Senoue: He has been telling me for decades to write a single phrase that would be good to use, but it has yet to be realized.Iizuka: In the first place, you don’t use the same songs over and over again.Senoue: The theme music for Sonic the Hedgehog 1 & 2 on the Mega Drive is the same, isn’t it? Well, I’ve heard you say so often that you want something that says “this phrase is Sonic” that I can almost feel myself getting calluses on my ears.Iizuka: I say it every time, but you don’t do it every time.Uekawa: What do you mean, “don’t do it”?Iizuka: Well, when you hear the theme song for Back to the Future (*8), even if you don’t know whether it is the first or the second, you can immediately picture the image of the work, can’t you? The same goes for Star Wars (*9). I wanted Sonic to have “this song” throughout the series, but they change it every time (laughs).Senoue: But I think that’s one of the great things about Sonic. I’d like to say that it’s good because people will remember it one-on-one, like, “This song is the face of this title,” but, hmm, it’s conflicting (laughs)?Ootani: Iizuka also orders us to “make this title unique,” you know. There is a lot of excitement and history because we have continued to create a new theme song for each title, so somehow we’re managing (laughs).Iizuka: I think the only thing we’re reusing is the result songs.Senoue: It is true that we are conscious of using the result songs as much as possible, but it is not uncommon for us to arrange them or have a different song specifically for the title (laughs).Is Iizuka in the right here?
>>577968723Stupid bitch, stop revealing things before the chapter is out you dumb attention whore
>>577968723> Another le quirky girlfailure character that will ultimately overtake the plot and the game characters
I watched that 3 hours Sonadow iceberg video, and... I think I get it now...
>>577949016What’s it going to take you to accept that they’re only good for drawing in pictures involving human men?
>>577968723She was the one shown to temporarily break of out of the control after all.
>>577969250You could have spent that time playing Shadow 05
Crossover, corporate, cereal mascot franchise.
>>577969250you're gay now
Mania ruined classic sonicKill westerners
>>577969250Welcome to the canon team, I hope you enjoy being part of the most popular ship on the Fandom.One mandatory question, is Shadow the top or the bottom?
This is the reason they keep using Green Hill. Only problem is hey don't own the music. I hate how the movies never use Sonic 1's theme, only Green Hill is considered
>>577969531Forces did that
>>577969497You are just mad cuz Nines wasn't invited
>>577968723A new announcement by Evan.
The bad guy should force Blaze to make out with Silver while mind controlled and then taunt Silver using Blaze's body
>>577969638strict bottompower bottom even
>>577954539Would
>>577969881
>>577969881>
>>577969531You don't need Classic Sonic just to make 2D Sonic games
>>577954824NTA but would picrel
>>577966113Reminder: This comes from a Nintendo game.
>>577968723>Pink Doe with the short antlersWho??
>>577969896Even as a power bottom I want to worship his chili dog
>>577970192The girl snapping out here >>577945763
>>577970192The girl failure that makes you say>There is no way Evan is trying to make Belle againBut she is
Sonic is hardcore.
>>577970015>Proceed
>>577969808>"Silver The Hedgehog is a bitch ass mother fucker!"
>>577969789*Generations>>577970092This.
>>577970727The raped
cheddar and bbq wavy and sour cream and onion equals a three layer dip stack
>>577969808Has anyone sent Evan this pic?I'm sure she has a good sense of humor
>>577969187I mean the Character Sonic the Hedgehog has a theme "It doesn't matter" but I don't know what would be the theme of the series. Outside of maybe the Green Hill theme
>>577970516"Girl Failure" is code for "Refuses to marry a man and have kids". Yeah, that's a failure given even the ugliest of ugly fat bitches can get a dude.
>>577971092>Outside of maybe the Green Hill themeThat's fucking stupid please stop Sonic 1 already had a series theme reused in Sonic 2 STOP.I hate Green Hill
>>577970867Generations at least used it as the main gimmick. Forces just shoved him in there for memberberries and it fucked a lot of shit up
>>577971236Said gimmick was shit and it's still affecting the series.
>>577964118I can’t help but think of picrel except I don’t get the appeal
don't boop the snootle
Free Rails in a bowtie for everyone, what a good slut
>>577968420No. Otherwise Amy and Forces Avatars would go super.Super Sonic isn't a racial trait virn from Sonic tapping into his hedgehog bio heritage.Its a chosen one power that comes from him having a open heart and allowing himself to be a vessel for the collective wishes over everyone.
>>577968723>doe>nor deerSo now we have to treat both as seperate? Didn't think it through.
Kino art
>>577969250You watched a video made by a terminally online ultraliberal fujo who uses the term "my partner" to hid the fact that she's a lesboid. That video is nothing but schizoing and she even says you're homophobic if you have Sonadow. She can go oot and ey-boot to Canada with that faggotry. Sonadow fujos are cancerous tumor upon the fandom. They're not even fans. They just want to portray 2 fictional teenage boys as flaming homos to get off on it
>>577969794YES I AM MAD CUZ MY FWARKING school shooter HERO WAS NOT INVITED!
>>577971903She's paving the way for next year's gay OC, Fuck the Buck.
>>577971903It's an adult female deer so she is a doe
>>577971934edgelord kino my beloved...
>>577971942>having a melty over sonadowMany such cases!
>>577969187>Iizuka: I think the only thing we’re reusing is the result songs.https://youtu.be/3D32NFIXwlgI still think it would be cool if they used the Sonic 2 one for S-ranks on top of the Sonic 3 one for the result screen itself.>Is Iizuka in the right here?I think so. I think Sonic instead having certain musical signatures or certain recurring instruments is better than just using the same themes over and over.Sonic should be on the go and therefore feel like he is having different experiences. Music plays into that.
This is how you characterfags act
>>577971942 (me)*if you hate
>>577971742>It’s a chosen one power that comes from him having an open heart and allowing himself to be a vessel for the collective wishes over everyone.This is complete horseshit and you know it. You’re telling me Sonic Shadow and Silver are the only ones capable of having an “open heart for everyone”? Fuck off. It is PURELY a powerfag/master race fantasy for ST, nothing more
>>577972682You disagree with Iizuka on this then. I like your perspective though.>the Sonic 2 one for S-ranks on top of the Sonic 3 one for the result screen itselfI feel like the other way around would fit better.
Brawl and its consequences...>>577969670>I hate how the movies never use Sonic 1's theme, only Green Hill is consideredI hate it too... main theme supremacy.https://youtu.be/u_qL-bOh4oMThat said, with hoe much it was used, I think at one point the goal was for "You Can Do Anything" as Sonic's theme.If Sonic HAD to have one, I think i'd prefer that over Muh GreenHillZonehttps://youtu.be/Ejt94RWhq5s?si=JxnhRvb4NYQ4n2amhttps://youtu.be/Q77Gi4bnVxQ
Is this drawing in-character?
>>577973226They still use it a lot in the racing games
>>577973296No, she should be sweatier and he should start kissing her and her panties should get wet while he starts dry humping her butt and she says "stoooop" in a girlier tone than she's used to
>>577973226>That said, with hoe much it was used, I think at one point the goal was for "You Can Do Anything" as Sonic's theme.Oh yeah, that was also remixed in the Sonic Adventure series invinvibility! Too bad the US soundtrack refusing to go away killed that idea.
Sonic turning super is fine. Other characters turning super muddies the concept. They should have their own unique forms
Just in case you guys want to be super disappointed in Sonic Movie 4: Movie!Amy is Sonic's daughter from the future.
>>577973518Hot
>>577973527Should Silver fuck her, the lowly peasant girl?
>>577973637Then apply this to Shadow and Silver, they don’t get to be exceptions just because they’re male hedgies
>>577973527Slut
I can't take IDW seriously when it's all blobians. It's not because it ruins the world building. I don't have some kind of structural reason for it, it just looks lame. I like it better in the Adventure era when the important characters are animals and the background characters are human. Something about that was cool so I just like that better. I don't care about the logic. As long as IDW is like this it will never feel as cool as Sonic Adventure
>>577973892I already did by not putting them with Sonic
>>577972570Sonadow fujos are the ones that are going to raging uncontrollably next year and they are going to fully deserve it
>>577973984I like this picture in particular. Make it seem like the beginning of a classic Disney film
>>577973985But Sonic Team didn’t
>>577973984Why would anyone take IDW comics seriously?
>>577973984It's all furry lameness. Notice how the games that were considered cool and memorable all had human NPCs - SA1, SA2, and Unleashed
>>577973984> don't have some kind of structural reason for it> Something about that was cool so I just like that better>I don't care about the logic.8 year old logic
>>577973984It's largely agreed that IDW is just weird with humans being non-existent despite being core elements of the series like Shadow's entire backstory etc.Though really, the main reason they aren't in there is because IDW artists can't draw humans.
>>577973984You think blobians look lame compared to humans? I don’t think you like this franchise actually
>>577973984Honestly, neither of these approaches are even that unique.
>>577973984>IDW will never feel as cool as Sonic AdventureThat's perfect since the games haven't felt as cool as the Adventure games since
>>577973984It's a furshit fest.And i'm a furfag myself, but i do lile humans alongside anthros. This whole "exclusive" approach feels like i'm aleays watching someone's self-insert ugly OC.
>>577974903>>577974678Begone
>>577974678Will be REVIVED in Mobileslop...!
>>577974391Good way to call it perfectly sound!
>>577975024Well 8-year old foxes ARE pretty old and wise...
I found a japanese sallyfag the other day
>>577975169Smart fox :)
>>577973984>I like it better in the Adventure era when the important characters are animals and the background characters are human.I’m a big fan of the Adventure era in general, but I could not disagreee with this point more. This makes it seems like the main characters are only important because they’re animals, and not what specific characteristics ACTUALLY make them important. Having npc blobians fixes this
>>577975278umpawsible!
I like ShadowI wish more people liked Shadow
>>577969250Sonadow is worse than sonamy or sonknux but better than sonally sonurge sonaze
I hate ShadowI wish more people hated Shadow
Metstli? More like sexy
>>577970425>>577970516She cute.
>>577975335I can agree with that. My main problem with NPC Sonic Worldian's is that they usually fall into the overdesign problems that makes them visually more complex and important than the relatively basic main cast
>>577975871t. https://files.catbox.moe/1num66.mp4
Do not reupload my art.Do not use it for AI training.Do not use it without authorization.Do not remove the watermarks.Do not mansturbate on my art.Pay me to see it.Suck my cock.
>>577976104Shadow wanted this between
I wish Japanese people would react with the same amount of horror at the thought of a child being sexually abused as they do when a westerner pirates their anime and manga
>>577976428>>577976428>>577976428
>>577976474>>577976474>>577976474
>>577976467>>577976517I knew I shouldn't have waited and just make the thread immediately after 750
>>577976212>Do not mansturbate on my art.what about womansturbating?
>>577974391Why does there need to be a worldbuildbuilding reason to think it looks lame
>>577961905>spats
>>577974457Blobians are cool but this is like if every civilian was dressed like a superhero in a marvel comic
>>577975335idk i feel like that was incedental like main anime characters having colorful hair. they just happen to have that and it isnt because of that
>>577978352She’s had them for years.
>>577972146Yes....but we dont do that for any other animal character.
>>577972927>This is complete horseshit and you know itIt's literally in the game. Naka even explained it and how it was gonna work in Sonic 2.>You’re telling me Sonic Shadow and Silver are the only ones capable of having an “open heart for everyone”?Yes.
>>577972940>I feel like the other way around would fit better.How do you figure? For me I feel like the Sonic 3 victory jingle has pretty much rented itself and its placement. Also I think the Sonic 1 and 2 jingle deserves the elevation lel
>>577981652>Naka even explained it and how it was gonna work in Sonic 2.Link?
>>577981801I feel the 3&K one has a stronger feel, while 1&2 feels calmer
>>577974391Opposite actually. It takes a real adult to just state things honestly rather than have to couch it in some rationalization to make it sound more sophisticated than it is.
>>577975335This is the weirdest rationalization I have ever heard which immediately males me doubt your original SA1fag statement.No, them being seen as special as animal characters doesnt mean they only are because they are animal characters. There is no reason to think this.Its all just framing.
>>577981415Rams and ewes are male and female for sheep
>>577981652> >You’re telling me Sonic Shadow and Silver are the only ones capable of having an “open heart for everyone”?>Yes.Yeah, horseshit
