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Making Contact Edition

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Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

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FIRST FOR FAT THREAD
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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*scratches my sweaty nuts* hrmmmm
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Judging by how UT Toriel talked about Chara compared to Asriel in the alarm clock dialog, Toriel loves Kris at most half as much as Asriel
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ralsei butt
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Mewmew's peeled and sliced butthole~
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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I LOVE TV!
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ralsei butt
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>>578130908
I don't see how that dialogue applies at all, Chara lived at the very most for like a year or two with the Dreemurs while Kris was adopted and has been living for them for over a decade.
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i HATE yellow
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>>578130991
great minds think alike
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ralsei wobblemeat
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I only pretend to like Deltarune so I can have sex. It hasn't really worked so far but it's the best chance I've got.
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>>578130976
Even though I am Dess knight denier I just think she looks cool when she is the knight
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>>578130976
some random mtt fighting game doodles. ill probably make more later. EX mettaton would play like this https://youtu.be/CEtl0Cvc1Ts
also, here's a folder of the 12 or so fighting game idea sheets ive mspainted so far. im currently looking at some darkstalkers concept art to get a better idea at how fighting game devs create fighting moves
https://files.catbox.moe/vwvcem.zip
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ralsei goo apocalypse
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>>578131068
true

>>578131083
true
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>>578130971
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>>578130837
I don't think hair tastes like anything, but ok, i guess
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>>578131156
KINO
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ralsei splurting his gurt in a yurt
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Kris raped Millhouse
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>>578130976
turned Noelle into a corndog for fun
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>>578131238
As long as it tastes like you I'm sated.
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>>578130946
I love you /utg/
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>>578131210
don't say slurs
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Is there anybody with a more debated characterization than susie?
Is she going into dark worlds to escape her impending doom and problems in the light world or is she getting corrupted by the prophecy into wearing ribbons or is both of what I just said not true and she's doing fine?
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>>578131314
Imagine swallowing her and feeling her uselessly wiggle and writhe inside your stomach until her movements slow and then stop. And then the next day you poop her out and she's indistinguishable from any other food
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>>578131407
I don't like her enough to care about discussing her character
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>>578129684
you gat it boss

>>578130976
face she makes when she can't remember if you like hugs like that or not
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>>578131407
She's using fiction to cope with reality but it's not evil bad escapism and she's not delusional about it
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>>578131528
You should chew your food when you eat it
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>>578131407
she is a lonely teen who just made new friends and found out something terrible happens to them in a few days :(
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>>578131569
>she's not delusional about it
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need cat girlfriend
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>>578131721
Why is she skinny
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>>578131721
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>>578131407
I think if you're being abused at home and you're too young to do anything about it there's literally nothing wrong with choosing to sleep in a magic fantasy town where no one throws beer bottles at you instead
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>>578131705
If she was delusional then she would forget that $13 is a lot in real money (for an impoverished teenager) because it's almost nothing in the dark world. She's clearly drawing a distinction between the light and dark worlds here, it undermines the idea that she's delusional.
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for me it's the crocos
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>>578131528
You need to kill yourself.
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>>578131902
anon imagine you played persona and then whenever you talked about price irl you said USD instead of simply "dollars/bucks/etc"
Its delusion, no one except people trying to seperate themselves from their own reality talk like that
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>>578131407
it can all be true. It's a weird world where weird shit is happening
It's like saying noelle is suicidal but didn't intend to go out of bounds. She absolutely did. Both are true
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>>578131705
Calling Susie delusional for referring to them as light dollars instead of normal dollars is like freaking out about someone saying "cis"
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>>578131721
>>578131969
I wish I could make love to all four of these characters
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me like Night in the Woods
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>>578132029
Only for the disposal part desu
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Do you think Orange squirt and piss tastes like orange juice?
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TV DAISUKI!! SPAMTENNA DAISUKI!!
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>>578132082
mae and gregg are funny, angus is literally me and i want to creampie bea so it's a good game
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>>578129617
thank you!! it is a different anon who made the design to be fair. but i like the design a lot and hope i am doing it justice

and, i also think she is hot in that pic i drew.. maybe i will draw more hot fem flowerys later.. not rn though i have to take a break
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>>578132068
im not typing it again >>578132035
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Susie si EVIL because she slept in her IMAGINARY FANTASY LAND FULL OF FRIENDS THAT LOVE HER instead of going back home and being BEATEN WITH A BELT AND BEER BOTTLES
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>>578132035
the dark world objectively exists and isn't just Susie getting really obsessed with a video game
this is like she said USD instead of dollars while repeatedly going back and forth between the US and Canada
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>>578132270
Canada isn't real though
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>>578132035
That's a retarded comparison because dark worlds actually exist
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toby will never write a funnier character than queen
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>>578132191
Please draw more of her teasing Ralsei, preferably sexually.
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night in the woods is a great game and looks beautiful but it should have been twice as long and the ending SUCKED
also, if you like night in the woods and want more of it there's a really in-character ao3 fic that takes place after the ending that I would greatly recommend reading, I forgot the name but I read it awhile ago
this is ontopic because bratty is a gator and so is bea so they are connected
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night in the would..nt's >:)
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>>578132417
nitw is a slog already it doesn't need to be longer (though I do like it quite a bit)
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>>578132431
HOOCHI MAMA
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>>578132431
stinkfags have to ruin every otherwise good drawing they make by cramming their fetish into it
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toby will never write a sexier character than queen
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>>578132270
>>578132353
No one calls their own currency by its legal name, they just use the generic catch all because in their mind it should just be "currency"
I didnt see her saying "Infinite Dark Dollars" when talking about the infinite flowery chest, she said "Infinite money"
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>>578132383
Spamton and flowery
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>>578132417
this is ontopic because bratty is fuckable and so is bea so they are connected
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>>578132431
imagine how bad her balls smell
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>>578132521
It's just one line of dialogue you could easily erase in MS Paint in like five seconds anon
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>>578132583
spamton is close; I love Flowery but no he's nowhere near as funny
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>>578132237
https://poal.me/ryqvyx
https://poal.me/ryqvyx
https://poal.me/ryqvyx
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>>578132690
you fucked up the options
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>>578132431
She’s a REINDEER!
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>>578132521
if you don't think women smell good you're gay
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>>578132753
Sorry it's because I was beaten as a child
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>>578132690
You screwed up and put the same option twice
*shakes my head in disapproval*
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>>578132816
I would marry sinkdog she's lovely
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>>578132668
Flowery has me constantly laughing, cannot say the same about queen. Maybe an exhale or two
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>>578132768
i want women to smell good and that's why i hate stinkfaggotry yes i don't want them to smell bad
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>>578132660
If i was asriel and i lost this i would kill myself
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>>578132456
night in the (i) woulds (kiss bea on the mouth)
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>>578132581
>No one calls their own currency by its legal name, they just use the generic catch all because in their mind it should just be "currency"
come onnnn, be serioussss
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>>578132870
I think the only time I actually laughed at Flowery was "I'm falling!"
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https://poal.me/9h8rdi
https://poal.me/9h8rdi
https://poal.me/9h8rdi
Okay hopefully I didn't fuck it up this time
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eagelle would call them Freedom Dollars
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>>578131705
people are arguing against this but light dollars aren't a thing, the usd comparison is bad because that's a real name for the currency. she's invented her own name for the real currency because she's so dark world pilled and delusional
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>>578132431
I'll never have a GF like this so I'm going to become a serial killer.
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>>578132997
"crazy" is obviously the wrong word, because she's not crazy. She obviously has a bad home life and Castle Town is (at least for now) actually real

But it is also unhealthy and will losing track of reality will obviously have bad consequences
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Are we still in the "dark worlds are fake and actually just kris and susie playing with cards while the game non-diegetically displays it through kris's imagination" coma dream theory tier mindset
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>>578133093
But they’re dollars in the lighter world and darkworld. In the darkworld they get called darkworld dollars, which would obviously mean in the real world (light world), they’re lightworld dollars.
Man all this shit is reading way too far into it, some morons REALLY want their “ESCAPISM IS LE BAD” message fnr
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>>578133147
Dark worlds are reality though
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>>578132880
if you're imagining the stink as bad that sounds like a you problem. i'd look inward.
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24 light dollars for a ralsei plushie?!?!
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Flowery's infinitely inflating chest...
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>>578132521
Just imagine it's a joke bro
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>>578133231
>which would obviously mean in the real world (light world), they’re lightworld dollars.
no one but susie would ever say this though (because she's delusional).
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Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a World. A Dark World. A Dark World with Ralsei. And Ralsei makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a World. A Dark World. A Dark World with Ralsei. And Ralsei makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a World. A Dark World. A Dark World with Ralsei. And Ralsei makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a World. A Dark World. A Dark World with Ralsei. And Ralsei makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a World. A Dark World. A Dark World with Ralsei. And Ralsei makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a World. A Dark World. A Dark World with Ralsei. And Ralsei makes me crazy...
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>>578133318
IM SO SICK OF TRANNIES GIVING MEWMEW A DICK
MADDIE USED TO BE NULLO/GENDER NEUTRAL THEN BECAME A WOMAN. MEWMEW ISNT MTF ITS MORE LIKELY SHE HAS BARBIE DOLL ANATOMY THAN A DICK
GRAAHHHH!!!!
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Even if Castle Town is real, it's not HER reality. She's a Lightner. Lightner's live in the Light, they need the Light. Whether or not Castle Town is real is irrelevant to the problem with claiming it as her true and only home
Its real yes, but the food is not made for her. The darkness does not nourish her like the sun. She cannot find true comfort within it as the beds are not made for her. It's an alien world, not a fantasy world
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Flogore would have completed the mission, so Kris had to intervene early.
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>>578133479
self harm...
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If Susie stays in Castle Town for too long she'll get corrupted by the dark and become The Roaring Dragon
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>>578133504
>The darkness does not nourish her like the sun.
Why would monsters need vitamin D
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>>578133093
if usd didn't already exist as the name because most people didn't know other countries existed, I would naturally start calling them us dollars after traveling to another country that uses "dollars"
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>>578133281
I knew a girl who I would say stinked, but it was a good stink. Don’t know if anyone else noticed the smell or if it was one of those weird cases where she only stunk to me.
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I really don't know what Toby is going for with dark worlds
It kind of reads like it SHOULD be about escapism but Toby is totally unwilling to commit to that so the light world is almost as wacky and stupid as the dark world, muddying any distinction between the two.
Stories don't need to have morals, but it really doesn't feel like a story that's built that up enough to be totally about that thematically 5/7 chapters in. It feels like it's trying to say something but the messaging is mixed. I dunno. Thinking about the dark worlds makes me like them less because I don't know where he can go from here.
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>>578133479
Cute babyboy
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>>578130976
https://files.catbox.moe/g5lu8a.jpg
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>>578133558
ligma BALL GAME
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>>578133250
Dark worlds are an aberration, an illusion created by some sort of unexplained magic. They're not supposed to be there, and they will all be gone by the end of this story. They represent fiction, and while engaging with them is not bad, it is still crazy to treat inanimate objects like they have feelings. Darkners can be thought of kinda like Shinto spirits, reflecting people's (that is, lightners') feelings about objects and the role the object plays.

>>578133219
You don't need to go that far to recognize the obvious themes

>>578133231
"Escapism (can be) bad" is one of the messages of deltarune and denying that is stupid. It's not the only point, and it's a more subtle point then other "escapism bad" medias one could name, but it is obviously *a* theme of the game
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>>578130971
Wtf does this even mean
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>Susie goes to Monster McDonalds
>"Hey I'll get uhhhh two Lightburgers please"
>Pizzapants who finally escaped ICE-E's P"E"zza and is working his first day at MonsterDonalds having to put up with this shit:
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>>578132431
I-GOTTA-BONER!!!
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>>578133703
>Dark worlds are an aberration, an illusion created by some sort of unexplained magic. They're not supposed to be there, and they will all be gone by the end of this story.
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>>578133558
You people fucking piss me off you know that? Why do monsters need to eat? Why do they need to drink? Why do they need to breathe? They arent like us, why would they share ANYTHING with us? They're MONSTERS, not PEOPLE. Why would they NEED ANYTHING TO FUCKING LIVE
WHY DONT WE JUST TREAT THEM LIKE FUCKING DOLLS THAT CAN SIT AND NEVER ROT HUH? THEY ARENT HUMANS, WHY ASSUME THEY NEED ANYTHING? CLEARLY THEY DONT REQUIRE ANY FORM OF SUSTENENCE OR NUTRITION, BECAUSE THE GAME HASNT SAID IT SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW???
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>>578133817
Pizzapants will switch from McBurgerPants to Tacopants only to face a more formidable foe
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>>578133917
I misspoke, dark *fountains* are an aberration
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>>578133924
susie eat haburger
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>>578133703
>"Escapism (can be) bad" is one of the messages of deltarune and denying that is stupid.
THE GAME ISN’T FINISHED YOU FUCKING RETARDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!
I’M SO FUCKING SICK OF MORONS CLAIMING WHAT DELTARUNE IS AND ISN'T ABOUT WHEN THE GAME ISN’T EVEN FUCKING DONE YET!
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Actual red flag would be if Susie started calling chalk "light candy"
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>>578133924
>>578134043
RagegodSAMA...
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Actual red flag would be if Tenna went on a diet
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>>578134029
suzy eat pancake :)
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>>578134064
This.
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>>578134064
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The Dark World existing for one hundred billion years and somehow being videogame coded has to mean that whoever discovered the place found it recently and accidentally altered it.
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>>578133617
Dark worlds are about fiction and play (not escapism), but Toby takes the correct position that fiction and play are an extension of reality because they're created by real people and engaged in by real people. The main difference between the two is fiction and play are exciting, fun, and safe in ways reality can't be.
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>>578134043
We're probably about at the end of the second act. At this point in a film, I have a pretty good idea of what the film's themes are.
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>>578133924
This is what that human leader said before the genocide but they actually wanted to have monster sex slaves not do all that
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>>578131705
oh no no no
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>>578134043
>game is designed as a episodic game
>"Noo you are not allowed to discuss the themes and story, because Toby is such a genious writer only the last ten minutes of Deltarune are worth discussing"
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It pisses me off that FOIDS and FAGS get to fatpost all day but I'm stuck here SEETHING that nobody wants to see Queen gorge herself on HASHBROWN CASSEROLE and KEY LIME PIE!!!!!!
god forbid a woman does anything
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>>578131705
Is this even real? I don't remember seeing this in my playthrough. How do you get it?
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>>578133703
>Dark worlds are an aberration, an illusion created by some sort of unexplained magic. They're not supposed to be there, and they will all be gone by the end of this story.
Didn't play chapters 3 and 4 award
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>>578134364
be the change you want to see in the world, post some
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>>578134364
Why don't you fat post about one of the many fat UTDR foids instead?
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>>578134297
If you had 6 eggs, how many chickens would hatch from them?
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alright gun to your head how many of you have referred to money as gold, zenny, gil, or something like that before for funsies
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>>578134364
No one is stopping you from making queen fatposting
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>>578134267
This is pretty close to my read as well

>>578134405
I meant dark fountains, the dark world is essentially fiction as a concept

>>578134064
do you think she kissed asgore...
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>>578134368
She refering to the price of the cinnamon buns theyre selling, you just interact with them in that spot. You mightve glossed over it because the ferris wheel is literally right next to it
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Susie is INSANE and DEMENTED imagine caring about breaking inanimate objects *punches hole in the wall and smashes keyb
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>>578134064
i love this sprite so much it's like those shitty jjk baby edits but canon
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>>578133250
in the end susie will have to choose between going home and getting burnt by cigarettes or opening her own dark world fantasyland and ending the world and will heroically accept her domestic abuse
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>>578134447
On average I'd expect 5-6 chickens to hatch from six fertilized chicken eggs, but in any case I would not expect a dinosaur to hatch from any of them
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>>578134267
Very sensible take. The best take I’ve seen on Darkworlds actually.
It just disappoints me that some Deltarune fans unironically think “problematic media” is evil and shouldn’t exist.
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>>578134364
Skill issue, weak will
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>>578134337
This is actually foreshadowing Noelle's phone becoming a darkner in Chapter 6 and crying "susie... why did you throw me susie... she was just trying to tell noelle that her dad was injured susie... ohhhh the pain..."
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>>578134486
dess...
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>>578134469
I have only ever referred to it as kromer a few times, does that count?
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I feel different.
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>>578134362
>game is designed as a episodic game
It’s chapter based. Is every movie with assigned chapters an episodic movie?
Things are the sum of their parts.
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>>578133703
There isnt a single aspect of Deltarune that says escapism is bad. Mad dummy transitioning into an anime figure pretty much killed the idea.
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>>578134420
>>578134473
it's the narrative, you see
men will tolerate male fatposting to a degree because it's a joke to them.
but you put a girl in their stead and it becomes deadly serious
if they can't fap to it and they aren't laughing, that's the danger zone...
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>>578134525
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>>578134739
Toby's views on transgenders should be obvious to you by this point.
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>>578134469
While working on my own game I kept calling the money “gold” even though it’s just “money” and the money being gold makes 0 sense
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>>578134708
* Who is that?
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>>578134479
I swear when I played Noelle and Susie have a whole conversation about feeding Kris under the table and the cinnamon buns weren't mentioned once. Don't make me load my save.
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>>578134740
Or it’s that you aren’t funny nor make quality content for it to be acceptable
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>>578134735
Thats wrong. Just because the episodes are titled chapters doesnt make them chapters.
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>>578134735
In movies and normal books and normal video games there isnt a extreme difference in quality between chapters
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>>578134859
IIRC the dialogue only shows up if you didn't go to the diner with Susie in chapter 4
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>>578134740
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>578134973
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>>578134739
1. Maddie's story isn't done yet. Also she's a ghost, and apparently possession still works by undertale rules? Whatever. Plus her purpose in the story (so far) is to reflect the relationship between Kris and the Soul, not to comment on the fiction/escapism theme (yet)

2. We all engage with fiction. We're doing it right now. It's fun and probably good for you. But surely you can think of some examples of people engaging with fiction in an unhealthy, self-destructive way.

>>578134823
I have so many complaints about ch 5 but this was such a perfectly bittersweet ending
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>>578134850
No shit thats my point. Tobys view on transgenders means that escapism is good since thats the means trans dummy could realize xerself. Deltarune will not end with Kris having to seal the fountains for good and put away childish things to grow up.
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I just woke up from a dream
>be ralsei
>waiting for susie by the castle town entrance
>susie enters the dark world
>>yo ralsei look at this
>susie takes out a seed from her pocket
>>kris gave me this
>the seed turns into an axe in her hand, which has Flowery's face on it
>>I'm Axery! Axery the Axe!
>
>wake up
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>>578135003
Oh that makes sense because I did that on all my saves. This game has too much pointless alternate dialogue.
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>Toby Fox: Ah yes, the players will see this scene where Susie has Kris walk her “home”, which is actually Castle town.
>This is a sign that things at her home are so bad that she chooses the Darkworld over it, to escape the abuse and find comfort in a place that actually loves and cares about her
>It’ll be emotionally devastating as they realize how screwed up reality is that she’s forced into making this choice, effectively being a metaphor for running away from home, something which Noelle talks about earlier in the chapter with Susie…
>Chapter comes out
>WOW SUSIE IS SO EVIL FOR WANTING TO NOT GET BELTED AT HOME
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>>578134267
but is it, though? because susie takes them even more seriously than that
and she should! the dark worlds are factually inhabited by dangerous creatures. the game overs are deaths. dark worlds are not safe and are largely motivating the characters to end up in real harm.
this is what i'm talking about with mixed messages
there is ZERO difference between the light world and dark worlds in tone or consequence
it seems like the story is unironically just "what if you could go into a video game" and has no conclusions about what that means
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>>578134856
I feel...... like going bluglglglellelelelelelele
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>>578134478
>This is pretty close to my read as well
If you're >>578133703 then no it's not, you seem to have the opposite viewpoint if anything? Engaging with fiction and play is a good thing for individuals and society as a whole. If the story ends with dark worlds being permanently sealed forever, then that could only reasonably be presented as a truly horrible outcome, and a world where no one can create new fiction (which is what making dark fountains metaphorically represents) would also be terrible.
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fave realized some tf2 crates they bought last year went up in price so much they could make a 76 dollar profit off them right now but they're thinking about waiting another year because a similar crate that came out earlier went up a few dollars more in a similar timeframe and they're thinking that'd be the best strategy without holding for too long but fave is slightly worried they'll do something to blow up the game or its economy in that time and it all seems rather risky
also fave is 8 years old and dropped their ice cream on the ground and now it has ants alllll over it
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>>578134973
The only games with chapters in the same way Deltarune has them are like Telltale games. And in that case there are differences in the quality between chapters.
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>>578135060
>Tobys view on transgenders means that escapism is good
One thing will be made direly clear to you in chapter 6.
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>>578135028
>not to comment on the fiction/escapism theme (yet)
Maddie immediately lived in what should have been an impossible reality (having a body) and tried murdering a bunch of teens before the body put everything into place, forcing Maddie to accept it has to end.
It's doing something at the minimum.
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If Susie was properly punished with a belt she wouldnt be bullying tiny human trannies.
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>Chapter opens in Kris' room, early morning. The house has a colder color palette than usual, as though less light is reaching the windows. Kris' sprite is affected too, making them seem almost grey.
>Toriel isn't home and you can go into her room to find old photos of her and Carol together.
>You leave home. It's snowing, which explains the lighting. As you walk yourself to school Hometowners comment about how this snow wasn't in the forecast.
>You get to school early and go to Castle Town to meet Susie, who is fretting over the finishing touches on the town's Holidayification. To pass time before class you dick around with darkners and fight Seam for the PureCrystal
>When you leave to attend class Susie comments that this is the first time she's ever shown up before Noelle. Berdly starts doing some gagshit, Kris falls asleep, and cut to Susie waking Kris up to tell them Noelle never came to class and she's worried.
>You both decide to visit Noelle's house, where there is, of course, a fountain
>First save point (it's talking about the AC blasting like crazy):
Strong gusts of wind blow down from the high peaks.
The frigid air cuts through to your bones and seems to slow your movements to a halt.
Still, this never bothered you. In fact...
You are filled with Patience.
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>>578135231
Volvo isn't gonna make extreme changes to the economy, trust me
And the few times they did they fixed it immediately along with deleting or making dupes untradeable if they were involved at all
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>>578135239
That you’re an imbecile?
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Being so obsessed with a fictional character to the point of wanting to become the fictional character isnt healthy.
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>>578135231
Aw. Fave wonders how their old friend who paid hundreds of dollars for unusual hats is doing.
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>>578134869
could you identify funny? do you not wonder why obese blob tenna tickles the funny bone where a similarly weighty quen doesn't?
it's the narrative! the narrative!
it infects our memory and mind! impossible to see without it! we will rationalize, sour grapes, post hoc our way into whatever conclusion is most unextreme. but it's there! it is! you need only look for it in your heart...
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Toby is seeding the chud Noelle and Ralsei "nonbinary isn't real, Kris, you will always be a man" edits and psyoping the fanbase into reposting them to prep the community for his unmasking.
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Having sex in the dark world doesnt count as real sex
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>>578135391
what if you don't want to become them you just wish they were real and want to marry them and be with them forever and ever
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does susie lay eggs
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>>578135239
>Berdspam
hide post
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Purple Eggs and Ham
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can we host a /utg/ meet up at my house i have smash ultimate and a pirated copy of mario party 8
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>>578135060
The fountains will be sealed but the Dark World will still "be there," on the other side of your mind.

>>578135134
literacy award winner

>>578135179
I think we have a similar read, but diverge in how directly the representation tracks and how a "good ending" would look. Creating fiction and opening a dark fountain are thematic analogs, but they aren't diegetically the same thing. Like, Gerson didn't literally open a dark fountain when he wrote Lord of the Hammer. The literalness of the dark fountain is a conceit for the initiation of the game's story. Sealing the dark fountains won't mean that the dark world goes away, or that the relationships and experiences formed by engaging deeply with fiction weren't real.

>>578135248
I admit it sits awkwardly with the theme right now, but I do think we have to see how that story resolves before I come to any conclusions
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>>578135290
>Berdly starts doing some gagshit
oh hell yeah........ I can't wait

>>578135482
Perhaps
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>>578135425
You're taking this shit way too serious
Do you want to shitpost about fat Queen or do you want to share your coomer fantasies about her becoming a tub of lard? Either way you sound like a schizo
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Jingle bells
Noelle smells
Susie laid an egg
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>>578135452
i like when noelle is drawn with red eyes it tickles my inner edgelord
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the thrash machine lost to queen
and your father is gay
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>>578135645
>Either way you sound like a schizo
some people have no sense of humor, honestly
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>>578135482
yes and she has to eat them to reclaim the lost nutrients, the shell too
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>>578135732
I'm sorry but your posts weren't funny at all
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i just woke up from a horrifying dream where i posted spamtons to the anchor and someone just went to town criticizing every aspect of them making fun of me and destroying me and then my uncle walked into the room and saw me drawing and said "are you... is that..." and then i saw the realization in his eyes and it was at that moment i realized my uncle was the /utg/ guy who obliterated me and my spamtons
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>>578135732
don't be mean to the newfag it will learn eventually
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>>578135836
i disagree and i'm the target audience so suck an egg
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*wobbles humorously*
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>>578135134
The first part is how I saw it and this is the second time in a row now the fandom has interpreted a chapter ending completely different than I did
Last time was everyone being WAY angrier at Sans and Toriel than I felt
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>>578135837
That sounds truly horrifying
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>>578135987
Noelle your asscheeks. They are out.
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Le Player.... is EVIL
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Toriel is an abusive alcoholic that doesn't buy food and locks her child out of the house without giving them a spare key.
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>>578135837
David that was a real thing and you are a cocksucker if you dont delete your spamton porn
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>>578135987
This doujin is so fucking hot, I should read it again...
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Queen fails to be a sexy milf in the same way that Alphys fails to be a sexy teacher
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>>578136024
Yeah. First impression of Sans at home was "Ok so I know that Sans knows about weird meta Gaster shit, so he's probably pretending to be out of the loop here like he did in UT, but he's protecting Toriel from the Knight because we also know that the Knight wants to tractor beam Tori for some evil purpose"
And not
"ZOMG THEY IS A FUCKING METAPHOR KRIS KEK!!!!!!!"
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>>578136131
>without giving them a spare key
NEVER PLAYED THE GAME
TOURIST
SECONDARY
RETARD
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Toby needs to finally cut out the mystery box bullshit and reveal a lot of things next chapter or my AU is going to be FUCKED
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Man imagine if the next chapter focused on the fucking cattenheimers
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the worst /utg/ dream I've ever had was about an anon doxxing my mom
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>>578136376
The worst one I had was about a thread where all the attentionsluts started catboxing their dicks
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>>578136361
This is what Catti fags can't accept. Toby said all the set-up is complete, but if he introduces the fucking cattenheimers he'll have to do more set-up so it's unlikely they'll be a part of anything ongoing
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is it a bad time
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>>578135156
>because susie takes them even more seriously than that
Not really, the entirety of human society in real life is based on ritualized play. It's entirely reasonable for play to be presented as something very serious despite also being fun.
>the game overs are deaths.
I'm unsure if this is actually the case though. I think it just seems this way from our perspective because our connection gets disrupted or something along those lines.
>there is ZERO difference between the light world and dark worlds in tone or consequence
There's huge differences in tone and consequences. The dark worlds are grandoise adventures. They're high stakes, but your victory is always assured in the end as long as you keep trying. Everything you do in the dark world matters: your recruits, what side quests you do, and so on. But they only matter to the Darkners. Tenna can die or you can save him, and the light world keeps spinning either way. What you do in the light world, meanwhile, has no consequences at all. It doesn't matter if you steal Alphys's chocolates because she'll befriend Undyne either way and then Undyne will get kidnapped either way. The threat of the Knight is that they impose the high stakes of the dark world onto the light world. There is no guarantee that you can affect any change in the light world the way you can in the dark world because you're just a person there and not a hero. Being violent in games is fine because the consequences only exist in the game, being violent in real life is not fine. Of course it's more complicated than that because the objects the Knight destroys also have sentimental value even if they're not as valuable as real people, but you get the idea.
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>>578136471
sans...put your dick away sans...
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>>578136187
...link? (but blue)
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>>578136451
perhaps you've seen it...
maybe, in a dream...
a murky and forgotten land...
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>>578136460
I’m not a Catti-fag I’m just saying imagine if he makes it fucking that. Hell, you could say that there HAS been set up for the cattenheimers in some round about stupid way.
I’m just saying “what if he ruined the game” in effect
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Attention whores good when they are drawfags
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>>578135987
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>>578136543
I want to say this was a fucking fumble but it only is if the next chapter doesn’t reveal it. If it does, then it doesn’t fucking matter in the grand context of things, since you’d immediately go to the next chapter and find out.
This is why all the complaints are only half warranted.
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If the aspect Chapter 6 focuses on isn't the Holidays/Dessappearance/Knight (assuming it's tied to those) I have no fucking idea how his story is gonna wrap up in any satisfying way
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>>578136131
If we work under the idea that was not intended by toby, its still pretty indicitive of his writing that it was such a common misconception he had to over correct in ch5 with Toriel only now mentioning the key, and finally actually trying to call Kris when he doesnt tell her what hes doing being out of the house since the crack of dawn. Which STILL manages to fuck up, because its specifically only at the time where he was with his dad that she hates, so its not even 100% clear if the calls are because shes worried for his safety or because she hates Asgore and its the only thing thatll get her to care where her kid went
He really just expected us to trust that Toriel was a good parent and not think about what shes actually doing and not doing at all
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I still think this could all have been avoided if he released Ch3/4/5 together like he originally planned
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>>578136804
No one knows anything.
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>>578136713
Oh theres a english translation
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>>578136713
wtf I love Suselle now?
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>>578135391
Which is why the conclusion of the Pink fight is that the ghost should be the version of herself that Mew Mew inspired her to be without forcing Mew Mew to BE her, and that they can share the body without being fully the same person.
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>>578136387
i just searched up “pomni jevil” on youtube to see what would come up and this was the first result
https://youtu.be/dQ4eUVO9y2s
a lot of effort was put in but this is fucking awful
they don’t know what actually makes erb work as music nor do they have even a basic grasp on meter or pacing
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alph is
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>>578136804
Yeah
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>>578136586
Having trouble finding it again, kinda sad, used to be so easily accessible during chapter 2 days
We even had it uploaded to our very own booru...
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So Kris definitely has the Delta Rune code right?
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Toriel is abusive because she doesn't let me eat her pussy.
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>>578137065
Asgore...
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>>578137042
Kris probably has all the codes and is bullshitting Susie.
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>>578136804
You will get the Susie apartment room dark world that completely diverts away from the relevant plotlines to give you a battle with Susie's dad with the Chaos King leitmotif where he whips you with the Belt of Justice (and also FRIEND is just her chair) and you will LIKE IT
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>>578137042
The code isnt actually required theres a small emergency latch on the shelter doors, because its a shelter they cant expect a panicing town to quickly enter 3 different 8 digit passwords thats only known by 3 specific people when an actual emergency is happening
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>>578137131
someone that does can just open the door for them at any rate
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>>578137042
Kris probably has at least 1 code, it's buried next to the monster horns they used to wear if they game board 2 in chapter 3 is anything to go by.
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>>578137030
I hope it isn’t lost to time.
It’s probably on exhentai…
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>>578136804
Chapter 6's focus will be on the Holidays but only Rudy's death and we still won't know anything about Dess or the Knight afterwards
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Stop having hope for chapter 6
We all know that it will be the worst chapter in the entire game
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>>578137131
Ralsei seems to be bullshitting Susie too.
Along with us, of course.
There must be a reason why things HAVE to happen the way they do...
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>>578137281
>Stop having hope
naur
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if you don't like the game why are you here
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>>578136849
>its specifically only at the time where he was with his dad that she hates
I really, really doubt Toriel knew that Kris was at Flower King. I don't think anyone even saw Kris and Susie go in aside from maybe Mettaton if he was looking out his window at that exact moment and why would Toriel even talk to him?
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>>578137264
I would appreciate Rudy finally being knocked out of the knight candidates list and looked back on like we do Alvin Knight at least.
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>>578137348
Stop being Australian.
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>>578137430
Chapter 7 will be incredible
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BOOBS
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you can literally show susie gerson’s grave in earlier chapters and she won’t remark upon it in chapter 4
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>>578137192
I'm pretty sure they entered the codes in that scene. The narration slows to a crawl like they're trying to put the codes in without thinking about what they're entering so we won't see it. "Think of the Knight" makes it clear the narration reflects their inner thoughts at least sometimes.
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the sans scene was definitely made to make you feel a little protective/empathetic towards kris at the very least
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>>578137293
I said this earlier but Ralsei's actions in the normal, weird, and aborted routes line up to him trying to manipulate Susie.
I don't think it necessarily means her death, but there is a means to an end, and it's very likely extremely unpleasant if he felt that he had to hide it from her in chapter 4.
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>>578137703
Yea but in the ordinary melancholy "you're growing up, things are changing, you're realizing your mom is a person too" not "omg toriel is so bad to kris"
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>>578137604
the old man never says his name before susie finds out he's dead
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>>578137703
Yeah Susie ran back in and told them to stfu after she saw Kris looking away from them for a reason
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Toby's confidence regarding the pacing of the final chapters make me confident it has to be about That Day, since it getting fully explained would put us 90% of way to solving most of the remaining mysteries
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>>578137430
Characters are sexy
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>>578135452
...THAT'S your alibi, Dess?
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>>578137446
The thing is, that doesnt really matter. The only time Toriel has bothered to call Kris after he's had someone who wasnt her to watch him out of the house, it was when he was at Flower King. That's enough to place some suspicion on her motives. Even still though,
>I don't think anyone even saw Kris and Susie go in
Noelle knows the last place Susie and Kris were seen was around there, its possible she tried going back when her stuff with her dad was done for that day (unless its gotten so bad shes at the "Sleeping in the chair next to his hospital bed" stage) and realized they werent there and asked Toriel or something about them saying the place she saw them was around Asgore's shop.
Or take it a little further, Toriel isnt out searching for them. Either she only called them and just said "...fuck it, Im sure theyre fine, Ill just stay at home" when they never picked up the phone and we wrap back around to her being an uncaring mother, or she has to have an idea of where they are, its somewhere safe enough, and its somewhere she actively DOESNT want to go in. Flower King would check off all the boxes
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>>578137604
The old man never tells her his name, so at most she'd make a connection between him and Alvin both being turtles, but there's no reason for her assume he's Alvin's dead father. She's only vaguely heard of Lord of the Hammer too so she wouldn't realize the "Gerson Boom, author" in the graveyard is the author of LotH specifically either. She reacts to the grave if you go there after the dark world so she figured it out by that point.
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>>578137718
yeah people don't like to think about ralsei doing that but if kris pulled them to the side pre/during ch1 (reminder that kris has a save there and talked to ralsei while susie was fighting lancer) and told them to get the fuck in line and stay there they'd still be following that order to the letter 5 chapters later
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>>578137829
autistically literal interpretation of the scene
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>>578137001
A. cute
B. sexy
C. lizzur
D. All of the above
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>>578138023
so Susie didn't come back in at the end of Chapter 3 because she felt bad for Kris
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>>578137576
I will kill once person today because Toriel is not real. Tomorrow I will kill twice as many. This will continue until Toriel is real or I am otherwise satiated.
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>>578136713
Would Rudy say this
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Hello there! I am Blue Ears, the world's only rabbit rabbit. I am going to teach children all around the world how to keep black people away! Come along if you are not black!
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>>578138096
4* mfer
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>>578138152
Rudy's fine with Noelle being a dyke in the game so probably not
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>>578138152
Rudy is constantly trying to get Noelle to fuck Susie.
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>>578138004
Diabolical
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>>578138126
does this work
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>>578137852
Sexy man, begging to have his body worshipped when he dresses like that
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>>578138250
Close enough, but she should be having sex with me.
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>>578138250
I would have fucked this toriel fursuiter but vaping? yucky!!
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>>578137980
Dark world bodies are not our real bodies.
We cant get pregnant in the dark world and therefor having a cyan cock slam into me and spurting cum all inside is a-ok because none of it is real.
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>>578138342
There is a trick to attracting them
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>>578138152
No
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>>578138191
reversed it
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>>578137985
>The only time Toriel has bothered to call Kris after he's had someone who wasnt her to watch him out of the house, it was when he was at Flower King. That's enough to place some suspicion on her motives.
Why would it be suspicious when she has no reason to even know they're at Flower King?
>Noelle knows the last place Susie and Kris were seen was around there
They were at the lake. Why would she say Flower King and not the lake? That would be really weird.
>Or take it a little further, Toriel isnt out searching for them.
We don't know what time of day it is when chapter 5 ends, but I doubt it's super late. The calls were likely about Rudy's condition, because he's a family friend that Toriel and Kris both care about, rather than Kris being out too late at night. I don't see why Toriel would organize a search party because Kris is hanging out with their friend for a few hours, something they've done the last few days in a row with no problem. She's not the best mom ever but it really seems like a stretch to act like she doesn't care about Kris at all and only wants to seethe at her ex-husband.
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>>578137201
asgore spamton parallels....
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>>578138152
yes
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Fave wonders if taking out a credit card to pay for rent without ever paying it back is a smart option
Fave considers the street to be a significantly worse ending
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Molest
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>>578137997
Even replaying chapter 1 you'd see Ralsei act a lot more aggressive here than every chapter barring 5.
Then chapter 2 he's assumed his cinnamon roll position and becomes a lot more passive. That tunnel of love junk is both him and Kris trying to play us.
Then there's Chapter 2 Weird Route with Rlasei trying to get us to see the the ferris scene with Noelle and Susie, AND his reaction if Weird Route gets aborted in Chapter 5.
Chapter 4 really should have dialed in the crocodile tears bullshit to everyone.
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>>578136713
source now
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>>578138774
Maddie...
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>>578136303
please tell me a little about your au...spare some kindness for a wretch...
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>>578138765
Get a 0 apr intro credit card and worry about it in 15 months
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Toriel doesn't even hate Asgore. She prays for him in church and waters the flowers he gives her even if she doesn't want them. She only seems to hate Carol for enabling him. Her feelings for Asgore are more like pity and disappointment.
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Why does Noelle want to kill herself
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>>578138806
I don't think it's pure crocodile tears. He loves Susie, but the game beats it over your head that serving humans (Kris) is his number one priority. Chapter 5 and Flowery really drills it into him that that's not okay and he should do what he wants.
I really wouldn't be surprised if that culminates in him being the one that spills the beans to Susie and kicks off the betrayal reveal.
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>>578135104
what are Axery's stats
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>>578138975
Her life sucks. Being rich doesn’t fix this. Nothing will get her sister back, and her dad will be gone soon, leaving her with a mother that is so over protective she might block Noelle from gaining independence out of fear of losing her
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>>578138674
>They were at the lake.
Which is a few steps away from Asgore's shop. I think if you dont count the screen transition, the picnic table is closer to his shop than it is the lake itself.
>The calls were likely about Rudy's condition
I dont think anyone even saw Toriel go in the hospital, and why Carol even talk to her?
>>578138674
>I don't see why Toriel would organize a search party because Kris is hanging out with their friend for a few hours
Same reason it was a problem she wasnt caring about it in chapter 4, theres no more police chief to keep the peace, and theres a tire slasher on the loose. Not to mention Hometown has a record of children going missing, in case you forgot. Potentially even going missing around that lake, depending on how you think the incident went
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>>578138975
cuz her face long as hell and she ugle
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when i was 16 these were my ideal women
still are
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>>578138975
Noelle doesn't understand why other people aren't suicidal.
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>>578138975
her literal soulmate kind of gave her the finger and fucked off after getting her sister killed. Oh well. Still have dad. fahaha!
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>>578138975
Her life is awesome. Being rich fixes all of her problems. She's bored because of this and thinks she'd be a more interesting person if she hurt people and then killed herself like Dess did.
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Stop!
Before posting your theory, ask yourself, "When was the last time I completed a full playthrough of DELTARUNE Chapters 1 through 5?" If you haven't done this sometime within the past month, [yellow text] please refrain from posting any theories.
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>>578138697
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Ralsei is actually Berdly in disguise theory.
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>>578138970
I've been thinking this forever now, but Toriel is just tsundere for Asgore. That was meant to be the joke since Undertale.
Why do you think she has a cactus in both games?
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I know this isn't the story of the undertale characters, but it's weird that Toby neglects to give them some fanservice when they are into the dark world, like when Flowery is dueling against the Knight, it was easy to add Asgore there for just one attack at least.
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>>578139324
spamton looking more like a lesbian than usual here
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It’s sleep time
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Frisk is an acronym of Chara without the F.
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If its Chara like Character, does that mean Frisk should be Acter? Especially since they're the pacifist of the two
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>>578139490
F that.
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If Kris is like Under, should Susie be Tale?
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>>578139120
>I dont think anyone even saw Toriel go in the hospital, and why Carol even talk to her?
I get that you're trying to use my argument against me, but it doesn't work when Toriel and Rudy are established to be friends and it's unlikely Toriel wouldn't notice the King and Queen ceremony getting interrupted because he fell.
>Same reason it was a problem she wasnt caring about it in chapter 4
The chapter 4 ends after midnight, she should have been concerned and it was bad that she wasn't. As far as we know chapter 5 ended right after the sunset, there's nothing indicating it's the middle of the night again. It's reasonable for a teenager to come home at 7 or 8PM.
>Not to mention Hometown has a record of children going missing, in case you forgot.
One child went missing 7+ years ago and nothing notable has happened since then. The only thing that's questionable is the tire slashing, but she probably just figured out that Kris did it since it's the most logical conclusion.
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kill jester
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When will it be revealed that Susie has a piss fetish?
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>>578139997
When she sees another quiet person
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>>578139997
One thing will be clarified in chapter 6
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>>578138854
looks scary but 105 outside is significantly more fucked up so might as well
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This guys art is so good it's feels like its laced with crack cocaine, their Swatchton stuff is also impeccable.
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>>578138191
>Dr. Rabbit is Racist reference
>in this economy
Ultra omega muy basado
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Kris x Noelle
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>>578139753
>it's unlikely Toriel wouldn't notice the King and Queen ceremony getting interrupted because he fell.
Again, no confirmation she ever went to the festival. You're only assuming that she'd know this. Rudy is a somewhat better point, but you have to assume hes in a good enough condition to use the phone himself when its possible he isnt even concious anymore. And Toriel would be who he rings first, instead of Asgore who clearly never got the call himself since he was still in Flower King after Noelle left.
>>578139753
>It's reasonable for a teenager to come home at 7 or 8PM.
But Kris isnt answering her calls, something we know he does because... he does, in chapter 1. How is that not a cause for extra concern? Police chief is gone, criminals that targetted her house specifically have gone unchecked, and her kid is out with no one knowing where they are and they arent answering the phone. Any reasonable parent wouldnt brush this off and just wait, thats what Susie's parents would do.
>she probably just figured out that Kris did it since it's the most logical conclusion.
Kris was in the bathroom at the time, and she wouldve confronted him about this if she knew. Or is eating a whole pie more cause for concern than literally slashing her tires?
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Kris x Piss
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Susie says quiet people piss her off yet she never once gets angry at Green
Plothole? Is Toby a bad writer? Is he stupid?
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kill rory
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>>578140242
Green never talks, but she constantly emits a loud shrieking noise so she doesn't count as being quiet.
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>>578140248
try to kiss rory
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>>578140313
Green vibrates at a frequency only known to Susie Green Gaster Hand Hook
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>>578140242
Susie's love of retardsexuals is stronger than her quietphobia
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beautiful eyes
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finished ff6.
i liked earthbound and chrono trigger but this one just didnt click with me.
i'm sorry, toby-san... (unsure if he even mentioned this game to begin with)
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Kris will rape Dess
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>>578140443
clownman said hopes and dreams so it's connected and your save is bricked
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>>578140135
>Again, no confirmation she ever went to the festival.
She doesn't need to go, the ceremony happens literally right next door to her
>Rudy is a somewhat better point, but you have to assume hes in a good enough condition to use the phone himself
Noelle could contact her, so could Carol since we don't know if Toriel's dislike of Carol is reciprocated.
>And Toriel would be who he rings first, instead of Asgore
That's another reason why they would try to contact her. Kris and Asgore are both unreachable.
>But Kris isnt answering her calls, something we know he does because... he does, in chapter 1. How is that not a cause for extra concern?
Kris apparently has a habit of not charging their phone and only bringing a broken charger with them which Toriel mentions when she asks why they didn't pick up in chapter 4.
>Kris was in the bathroom at the time, and she wouldve confronted him about this if she knew. Or is eating a whole pie more cause for concern than literally slashing her tires?
Kris was "in the bathroom" running water loudly during the exact time frame where her tires got slashed and the slashing directly benefited them because they obviously wanted Susie to stay the night
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>Jarona!
>*yeets itself at you at mach 6*
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kiss old man
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>>578138809
>>578136586
Namboku Kemono Kenbunroku 1+2
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>>578140443
Play Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: the 7th Stand User next because chapter 5 has at least one Jojo reference
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>>578140773
Flowery probably will resurrect actually, lmao
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>fave
>which stand did you get in 7th stand user
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wobblesei
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Noelle will marry Susie BUT she will cheat on Susie with monster men to fulfill her promise with her parents to give them grandchildren
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>>578140991
Ralsei
Pharaoh Sanders
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friend spamton
I'd do mew mew too but she'd kick my ass, I better stay in chapters 1-4
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>>578140443
play ff7 next it’s integral to ch6
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>>578130976
Skies Forever Blue living rent-free in my head.
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>>578141351
Need Noelle to break the 4th wall for me
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>>578140991
Asgore
Cardigans (I had no clue what 7th Stand User was until right now)
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>>578141351
With how Toby Fox writes Deltarune its hard to believe he wrote a girl loves boy song
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>>578140747
>literally right next door to her
how could she hear it happening but not kris and co. then? She'd have it hear it through the walls of her house, whereas the gang is a little bit down the road. If there was enough noise for Toriel to be made aware it wouldve made us aware too. Its not literally on her fucking front door
>Noelle could contact her
Why would Noelle be thinking about anyone other than her dad? Its HER dad, she's not going to call someone elses mom to bring her over
>Kris and Asgore are both unreachable
Why did Noelle get called and then Asgore didnt for the 5 or so minutes before Kris actually makes the fountain? There's even a timeframe between the calls that Noelle didnt take where she couldve checked with Asgore too, because she wasnt spam calling Noelle every time she didnt pick up
>Kris apparently has a habit of not charging their phone and only bringing a broken charger with them which Toriel mentions when she asks why they didn't pick up in chapter 4.
I dont know what youre talking about here so youre going to need to be more specific. However, what I can say is if Kris' phone was dead it wouldntve rung at all, and we know it isnt dead because we check it after leaving Flower King and it has battery. So Toriel would know the phone isnt dead, she'd hear it ringing instead of going straight to voicemail
>Kris was "in the bathroom" running water loudly during the exact time frame where her tires got slashed
Again, she wouldntve confronted him about this. She confronts him when he eats an entire pie at the start of chapter 2, why wouldnt she give him a cheeky "Hey, next time you want your friend to stay over, just ask instead of slashing my tires alright?" or something in chapter 5. Seems incredibly irresponsible to just let behavior like that slide
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whats the point of the nagasagy kikky park minigame? all you do is mash z on the bone a few times and thats it, you can either summon too many bones for them to get bored with or you can let them get fat on purpose instead, literally no score shit involved, wtf is the point of this?? "hm yes lets recruit everybody to play a shitty minigame that replaces the mike minigames", man
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>>578140991
Kris
Miracles
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>>578141607
>she wouldntve confronted
wouldve confronted, sorry
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I had a dream where I said I wanted to be murdered so I go meet my loved ones in heaven. When i said it it played like the WR jingle in an uplifting major scale.
I wish to never have that dream again because after waking up it's really fucking uncomfortable
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>>578141645
toby said he just added it to fuck around and kikky is literally his cat that he owns
slow day at the office I guess
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>>578141486
Same anon, same.. I wish Noelle could come out of the screen..

>>578141585
Did he write the lyrics? I just know he did the instrumental, OMOCAT the visuals and the japanese girl the voice.

Still, even if its an odd song choice for him, that part when the game starts breaking and the trumpets kick in is AMAZING
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>>578141814
>Same anon, same.. I wish Noelle could come out of the screen..
maybe, just maybe...
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>>578141645
Toby explains it:
The cat gains knowledge of a toy and starts to become unhappy once it loses access to it, when the cat would have stayed happy if it never knew about it
This is a metaphor for
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>>578141351
SOULelle keeps winning
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>>578141645
after playing the 4th sanctuary song on the guitar minigame, i don't regret doing a no mercy neutral run in save slot 1 actually, "FIGHTing is punishing because you miss out on castle town dialogue!!" that shit can fuck off honestly i would've gotten a similar experience either way
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>>578141957
are you corn or cornless what's it gonna be buddy
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>>578141923
Cute, anon!
Perhaps some day when were both in our 70s when AI and VR have gone far enough we'll be able to enjoy our last years in younger simulated bodies with prime-time Noelle.. I trust the doefags to remember her even then..
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>>578141773
i guess, could've added a shitty score counter that goes up with each time kikky hits a blue bone at the very least
>>578141957
hm
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>>578141995
Naturally. The soul deserves all the cute girls. Mewmew for rough stress-relieving sex after work and Nellie for the essence of life that is moe.
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>>578142073
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>>578141351
Honestly knowing how Toby reused a shitton of songs he had for Homestuck and didnt use for Deltarune what are the odds that song or some version of it is in the 7B credits
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>>578141607
>how could she hear it happening but not kris and co. then? She'd have it hear it through the walls of her house
She was outside gardening during the festival
>Why would Noelle be thinking about anyone other than her dad? Its HER dad, she's not going to call someone elses mom to bring her over
I obviously meant contact her after she got to the hospital
>Why did Noelle get called and then Asgore didnt for the 5 or so minutes before Kris actually makes the fountain?
Because Noelle is Rudy's daughter who would obviously be the first priority to contact before anyone else? You'd only call friends after you finish calling family.
>I dont know what youre talking about here so youre going to need to be more specific.
https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/#en:5:obj_ch5_LW02_slash_Step_0_gml_344_0
>However, what I can say is if Kris' phone was dead it wouldntve rung at all, and we know it isnt dead because we check it after leaving Flower King and it has battery. So Toriel would know the phone isnt dead, she'd hear it ringing instead of going straight to voicemail
I didn't say Kris's phone is dead, I said Toriel thought it was dead, which is true as you can see with the dialogue I linked. She evidently didn't know that the call going through means the phone isn't dead.
>Seems incredibly irresponsible to just let behavior like that slide
She lets Kris get away with ignoring her calls in chapter 1 because they're hanging out with Susie. The reason she was fine with them staying out late in chapter 4 is because they were with Susie. The slashing was, from her perspective, seemingly motivated by the desire to stop her from driving Susie home, so she's giving it a pass. She's concerned about Kris enough to ask Alphys and the nurse at the hospital about them, but hanging out with their new friend all the time seems like a mostly positive change so she's not confronting them over it or telling them to stop. She's not a great parent, but she cares about Kris.
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>>578142273
pretty likely, I just hope it's not framed as like, noelle singing it. She wouldn't sound like that I don't think...
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>>578142260
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so um…
how did kris get one of berdly’s feathers?
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>>578142391
why do you think he has 16 hp when he gets back
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>>578141585
>girl loves boy song
It's a girl loves ambiguously gendered player song though?
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>>578142391
omae wa
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>>578142273
>Toby reused a shitton of songs he had for Homestuck and didnt use for Deltarune
What?
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>>578142391
Birds shed a fuckton. I wouldn't be surprised if he got it after a day in class.
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>>578142378
Naw no way. Its gonna be just used like Dont Forget was in chapter 1. Although I think its still a cute voice nonetheless. It could grow on me..
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I'm afraid Deltarune will end on Dess being alive and normal again
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>>578142553
Er, sorry. I meant he had quite a few tracks he prepped for homestuck but never used and ended up reworking into shit for deltaroon or undertail
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>>578142386
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>>578142634
Which songs?
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>>578142609
Dess is not going to show up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW3JDzIajPw
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>>578142640
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>>578142609
if dessknight is legit and toby commits to her disappearance being the main mystery he's going to have to do SOMETHING with her
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Dessknight is real but she's VAGUE so we never get an official design for Dess and Noelle reminds us that Dess was never really such a good person
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>>578142609
Despite how corny and cheesy it'd be I'd still rather have that than Dess just be a plot device whose purpose is for the villain to need to move on from
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>>578143248
This. Dess being a macguffin tanks the story quite a bit. Just have her be dead at that point
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Noelle is the Knight and she just repressed her memory of killing Dess
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>>578142391
He molested Berdly. its what you wanted to hear right?
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be a good soul and help Kris put on some suncream
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Noelle smothered Dess with a pillow because she was frustrated by her illness and the Patriots are recreating the events of her death to test if they can prune humanity's ideological contradictions in the digital age. It is then revealed it is all Mario's dream.
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>>578142673
penumbra phantasm for hopes and dreams and land of heat and clockwork for another medium
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>>578143549
Mario O'Dimm, or Master Mushroom, plagued the dreaming of Hollownest no longer.
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>>578143549
I would pay to see a corny AU with Berdly as Solid Snake and Kris as Liquid Snake
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>>578143532
The Japanese create such beautiful depictions of the love between a teenager of indistinct gender and a little floating heart
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>Graveyard hours
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>>578144237
EURO hours
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eurorune susie would be from wales
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Noelle was always a nerd and her sister knew it..
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>>578144342
why is Kris eating their homework
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>>578144572
dog
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>>578130976
Oop, forgot to attach to anchor
>>578144550
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If chapter 7 lives up to expectations it doesn't matter how good/bad chapter 1-6 are because their real purpose is to add context for chapter 7.
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>>578144771
I'm going to burn his undertale museum in japan down
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>>578144820
If chapter 7 is bad that would be appropriate.
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>>578144771
I'll enjoy this particular post being repeated for the next 3-5 years
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>>578144771
If Chapter 6 sucks there won't be expectations.
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What if ralsei is asriels lighter.
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>"What else was I going to do make myself look like Froggit? Would you listen to me about prophecy stuff if I looked like fucking Froggit be for real"
your response?
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>>578144976
what
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>>578145358
"I'd appreciate you more if you looked like undyne"
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>>578145358
Yeah, you should've looked like Undyne.
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>>578144771
Chapters 1 through 5 will always be good even after 6 and 7 fail to live up to them
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>>578145358
"dude if you could make yourself look like anyone why wouldn't you choose to look like papyrus he's like the best everyone would pay attention"
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>>578144820
It's a popup that will only be open for a couple of weeks. There won't be anything to burn down by the time chapter 7 comes out.
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>>578144543
WRONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5sgM3rkF4
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I think UT and DU would be 10x better if boss fights had drum a bass or jungle tracks. I am surprised there arn't many fangames that do it
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>>578146281
>DU
>not DT
Fucking sausage fingers
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>>578146384
>not DR even when correcting it
rumao
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>>578146429
FUCK MY CHUDLIFE
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>>578145369
What if ralsei is asriels lighter.
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Not enough fanmade Lancer dialogue captures that feeling where everything he says is fucking weird and they just make him talk like generic kid character
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What if ralsei is asriels flamethrower
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>>578146384
Ah my favorite game, Deltaune
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>>578146805
The vast majority of aqua fan dialogue forgets that she talks fairly normal with the occasional odd turn of phrase, and instead spams her "uuuu"s and makes her a generic little girl character of some sort
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Why are there no alraunes in the underground/hometown
And no Flowery does not fucking count
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdIZKG2tXtw
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>>578146805
>>578146946
Fanworks tend to always flanderize the characters
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>burgerpants in chapter 6 on the catfish reveal route (CRR)
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>>578147143
the ending of this route was really abrupt and somber
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It's crazy how hideous LW Kris's color palette is. Piss yellow and puke green sweater, olive skin, dark brown hair and red eyes. It's like something you'd see on a really bad budget NES title
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>>578146946
Maria Umineko really does shout uuuu constantly
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>>578147346
>It's like something you'd see on a really bad budget NES title
Have I got news for you!
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>>578146817
Asriel smokes weed > you light weed with a lighter > Kris used to burn stuff > Ralsei can use fire > Ralsei is Asriels lighter
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>>578144976
>his hat was just the metal thing on the lighter that stops you from cranking the gas valve all the way open
>he's been holding back on casting fireshock because his butane is running low
>is green because weed
yes, it all makes sense now.
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>>578145358
>"Dude the literal second I got here I was scammed out of a custom character, if you just told me and asked me what I wanted you to look like I wouldve loved you immediately"
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>>578147143
>>578147224
Chapter 6 opens with a black screen and then Sans calls you and explains that Blue Ears, Bratty, Catty, Catti, Mr. and Mrs. Cattenheimer, Toriel, Carol, Rudy, Noelle, Jockington, Berdly, Temmie, MK, Snowy, Snowy's dad, milklooker, Alvin, Ms. Boom, QC, QC's sister, QC's sister's stupid child, FawFaw AKA Ice Wolf, the Warrior, and diaps guy all died in Pizzapants's festival rampage and they're holding a candlelight vigil tomorrow
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>>578147606
Actually he doesn't burn everything to the ground because he's the only actual weapon darkner.
He could literally destroy the dark worlds if he wanted to.
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>>578131164
Do you have a complied zip of all your fighting game art?
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>>578147460
Asriels too much of a dweeb to buy weed dess just passes it to him to watch him hack up his lungs because its funny
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>>578147704
The idea Sans eventually went to Undertale because Burgerpants sperged out and ruined the Deltarune timeline by killing everyone is really amusing to me for some reason
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Nobody in Deltarune smokes weed because Toby is Japanese and he believes that smoking weed makes you schizophrenic and violent
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>>578148061
To be fair, he isn't wrong
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the tragedy of suselle is that it’s a perfectly fine romance that has to compete with kriselle and krusie. like it’s in the only real romance here but so is kruse and there’s a lot of subtext for kriselle and they both have these established dynamics. like, does suselle have one that isn’t them being all lovey dovey? what are the reasons people like it outside of being canon and yuri?
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something something ralsei sex
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>>578148356
I like it because it leaves the floor open for me x Kris
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>>578148356
I feel like the game has one chance to hit the ball out of the park with Suselle in ch6 or else it'll end up as the least interesting element in the game despite being so central to it
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>>578148021
This is the whole reason he takes the shortcut into the resort instead of the front door, he didnt want to see BPs face. This is also why he threatens Frisk here, because BP is in the other room putting him on edge
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>>578148356
What makes Suselle work for me is how much Susie and Noelle represent what the other needs, Susie is the change and rebellion that Noelle desperately needed in her life and Noelle is the kindness and empathy Susie needed from her peers. To us the players who are just NOW seeing their dynamic reach a conclusion, these two have known each other longer without the player's presence involved and I think that's what, at least to me, makes Suselle seem the most genuine out of all the Fun Gang pairings.
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I just want Kris to be happy
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Kris is a cool silent guy like Red from Pokemon 1
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>>578138765
Why is Dess drawn with a catolic cross in so many arts? Did I miss it in her room? Christianity doesn't exist in Deltarune universe, does it?
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>>578148940
>Christianity doesn't exist in Deltarune universe, does it?
Whose gonna tell him?
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>>578148940
Christmas exists which implies Monster Jesus did exist
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>>578149039
Do they even mention christmas as it's own thing? I thought they only mentioned "holidays".
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>>578148940
Probably to fit some fucking trope or the other. Besides in that pic the cross looks upside down
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>>578149131
we have an entire joke with the cactus called krismas which then got renamed to tsuntsun by berdly
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Too much escapism or not enough escapism is bad. Balance is good.
I'n very smart.
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>>578149039
japenis celebrate christmas as a commercial holiday
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>>578149131
Aside from the angel and church, the scriptural piece around Wormwood is referenced a lot
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>>578149203
escapism bad stories feel like a crack dealer who puts little pamphlets in the crack bags detailing the dangers of crack
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>>578149294
I don't think that implies anything about in-universe Christianity. Seven is an important number because of its real life religious significance but that's not necessarily true in universe, it's more of a meta thing.
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>>578149295
You've never seen cig packs in europe
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>"Susie Im not telling you the dark worlds are bad, Im telling you to eat something real. You arent living off chalk and pocket lint"
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>>578149419
Susie is gonna stop eating food because she's gonna start hallucinating that they're all Darkners who want to be her friend and it's like that one catdog episode
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>>578149381
>I don't think that implies anything about in-universe Christianity
I think it's more that the in-universe town church has so many motiffs and direct parallels to Toby's childhood perspective of church that it is practically for all intents and purposes monster christainity
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>>578149382
I do see them, kek. But those are legal obligations, they're not done out of Marlboro's heart.
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>>578149485
>catdog
Oh no anon, it will be much worse than that.
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So what moody emo songs was Kris listening to on their phone in bed before the Festival as they dreaded waking up to a whole day of third wheeling by their two crushes? Pink Triangle by Weezer?
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>>578149419
She literally eats more light world food in chapter 5 than she did in chapter 1
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>Susie. Get out of Castle Town you need to drink something.
>B..but... *dehydrated cough* aren't Mizzles water... I don't wanna hurt a mizzle...
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>>578148356
To me, the biggest problem with Suselle, aside from the whole "sore thumb sticking out surrounded by better ships" thing, is that most of it just doesn't feel "earned" in any way.
It being canon is a double-edged sword because sure, there's legitimacy because of it, but on the other hand, it sort of binds it purely to what we see happen on-screen compared to the other ships that have more just been vaguely suggested if that, and anyone who isn't blinded by "zomgggg my cute yuwis look at themmmmm" will take one look at something like the lake scene and think "hmm, even considering that they are impulsive teenagers, I don't suppose these two people who have only meaningfully interacted over the last few days would already be spewing these canned lines about heartbeats that feel like they were ripped straight from the worst VN you can think of"
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>>578149679
I dunno but after meeting Aqua they gon be listening to Across The Sea nomsayin'?
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Monster judaism and monster islam are wrong in deltarune, what did toby mean by this?
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So far, Asgore is the first character in Deltarune who's actually treated the Dark Worlds as a lotus-eater Matrix dreamscape, and this is presented to us pretty unequivocally as a miserable moral failure on his end.
His eyes remain firmly fixed on "reality," and he's disinterested in and neglectful of his "perfect family" more or less from its inception. At best, he's "playing along." When Asgore fantasizes, it's about the Light World. Unreal scenarios, sure parading their body through the streets, getting back with his ex-wife, skateboards with Azzy but never the Dark World itself. Everything he does, he does in order to capture and kill the Knight, after which he intends to leave the Dark World. And it sucks! It makes the Seven-Colored Flowers miserable (and we see way more of them than Asgore; our sympathies align naturally with them over him). It doesn't make Asgore happy either, and it certainly doesn't help him fulfill his equally-implausible nostalgic visions of being big hero copman again.
Escapism, nothing. This is why I can't take seriously anyone who suggests Susie's living situation is her running away from the real world. The Dark may be a dream, but treating it as a valueless illusory prison doesn't actually get you any closer to reality.
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>>578149709
Darkners exist to serve lightners
Mizzle begging me to drink her hhhrrrrrrnrnnnnggggghhh
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>>578149131
Christmas is at least referenced with all the santa and winter shit in Noelles home, including the giant fuckoff christmas tree. Which is interesting because the local religion doesn't seem to have anything to do with christianity. It's confusing but Toby will probably dedicate an entire 2 textboxes to it in the final hallway
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>>578149732
consider the following
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Asgore the truth seeker! He had to die for he was too based.
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>>578149915
I read and considered that before I said what I said, and I still stand by it.
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>>578149793
But Asgore is a good character and Susie is a bad character.
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>>578149978
With all due respect, can I understand why? I’m not trying to start a flame war but I’m ready to know why else you disagree.
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I think Kress has more backing behind it than Suselle and the fucker isnt even in the game
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Why are the letters in the conspiracy jumbled and why do you think Ralsei can interpret them?
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>>578150249
Pure unfiltered plot contrivance.
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Why is Toby going soft on Shadow Crystal boss difficulty? Might as well just have a dialogue option asking if you want the crystal or not
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>>578150229
Kris was a little boy when dess was still around btw
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>>578150249
Connection to the lost children followed the pointed tail dialogue with the jumbled words
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>>578150350
because 2 years from now the game will be complete and little timmy will fight Chaos King in Hour 1 and then The Roaring Knight in Hour 8 so maybe a bit of rebalancing is in order when the games complete
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>>578150427
Knight is optional content
Flowery was mandatory and very easy
's okay
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>>578150427
optional fights tho
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Asgore is bad because he is trying to solve the mysteries.
Toby hates characters that will not let him continue vague posting and avoid the cool ending he wants us to see.
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>>578149793
Exactly. Refusing to truly emotionally engage with fiction just makes you more unhappy. It's not a healthy thing at all. I think that Carol will hit similar notes with her character arc. Her preference for bottled water is so important that it's in early concept art and there's a lot of stuff implying that the local water supply has darkness in it. I think it'll be revealed that she's so paranoid that she refuses to drink the local tap water, which in turn means she can't even perceive the dark worlds because she hasn't consumed any darkness. Metaphorically, she'd be someone who is so caught up in obsessing over her daughter's disappearance that she can't understand her daughter's perspective that led to her disappearance, and someone who won't let themselves process the shitty things that happened to them through the safe space that fiction provides.
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>>578150492
Knight isn't *really* optional content, I dont think stuff thats needed to see the true end of the game should be counted as optional
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>>578150534
then the game can't have truly difficult stuff?
where does it end, CASUAL?
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>>578150427
little timmy is not allowed to play Deltarune, he won't enjoy it on as many levels as I do.
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>>578150249
Dark worlds are an alternative view of reality so text that exists in the light world gets jumbled up. There's a bit of dream logic to it as well, you can't usually read text in your dreams.
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>>578150520
>if you try to investigate the epstein files you're a bad person.
Toby Radiation Fox
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>>578150603
I think the curve should just be handled better. Introduce more complexity early to smooth out the difficulty spikes. Pinks bombs are for some fucking reason a gigantic difficulty spike in a chapter with very middling to braindead easy enemies
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Why does Roby hate people thinking deeply about his game so much?
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>>578150603
Post your Susiezilla T-rank
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>>578150534
>true end of the game
only one ending and your choices don't matter
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the game should have just been harder from the very start to filter out casuals that's my input
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heh, it's my bologna!
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>>578150746
I like jagged difficulty curves
insert gerson line about too much predictability and also insert rory into my chapter 3
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>>578150792
If you don't have the shadow crystals then the world gets covered in darkness and there is no ending at all
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>>578150792
well thats just not true because if you die that counts as an ending
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>>578150752
he can just reproduce through mitosis
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If you haven't proven how good you are at danmaku by beating every optional challenge Pink won't save you in the final cutscene because you give her the ick
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>>578150917
maybe the world is always covered in darkness
but you can change the point at which that happens and what happens before it
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>>578150125
It's just totally and completely sauceless to me. There's nothing really there to enjoy unless you're the sort of person who was already susceptible to that exact dynamic. Moves too fast for what it is. Plus, there were already people being annoying about it back when all they had to go on were a couple of lines from Noelle nearly a decade ago, so there's a bit of a spite factor there (I fear the same thing happening with Tralsei supporters if they're right via some crazed moon gnome logic). Maybe not the best thing to admit, but it's the truth. External forces can really taint your perception of something sometimes if they're persistent enough.
People can come up with as many reasons as they can why it logically "should" work and "should" be good, but the end product just doesn't click with me, even as someone who's enjoyed and even quietly campaigned for gay pairings in other works that I thought were cute (so no phobe card, please).
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Toby is going to put a Sans rematch in side b + potentially a Kris/Susie battle vs the SOUL and Vessel or some shit like that and he's gonna make it hard as fuck
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>>578149793
>>578150532
My issue with this interpretation is the fantasy was forced onto Asgore, he didnt make the choice to open a dark world. He was thrust into a magic world that could finally give him closure to the very thing thats been haunting his life for so long, but its wrong of him to try and grasp that chance and he shouldve rolled over and forgot about everything in his life on someone else's whim? Is he wrong for not wanting to play in fantasyland and ground his desires in real goals instead of pretend kingdoms?
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I don't wanna be 28 years old when the story ends
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>>578150917
it doesn't invalidate my statement
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chapter 6 papyrus spread the word
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>>578151020
why aren't you 28 years old right now, zoomer
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heh, it's my aroma!
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>>578150997
I'm very much on the NB ralsei theory because we already assume him to be comfortable exploring gender roles. Whether that means like, a literal pronoun change, I doubt it, a scene like that needs a lot of deliberate, NON-OPTIONAL setup and a def hand that mr."I didnt know what roses meant until chapter 4 released" isn't to be trusted with
I mean you cant even get Ralsei in the dress if you recruited Star Walker. And fucking everyone recruited Star Walker
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>>578150917
God I wish Tobias Foxias manned the fuck up and gave us an ending where Kris wants to pull the trigger and end it all, but can't
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>>578151151
what was that grandpa almost heard you through all of your joints popping as you walk
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>>578151020
I'm gonna be above 30. Above 30 and still caring about a gay furry game.
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>>578151052
>ralsei = yimir
>plushies = wall titans
>roaring = rumbling
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>>578151253
yeah yeah i've started to hear popping in places i've never heard popping before when i stand up don't remind me
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HOT ZAMN PIZZA PANTS IS A LUCKY CUNT
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>>578151218
I more meant the people already fully committed to exclusively referring to him with she/her pronouns who screech at you for doing otherwise. Something like what you described is at least more reasonable because he's already pretty non-conforming just in general
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>>578151449
>who screech at you for doing otherwise.
Gotta love when the "I can't read I'm a deltarune fan!" spouting crowd gets mad at people for speaking accurately to the game's text
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If you want a good example of a trans acceptance-- well, a trans storyline, the Hello Charlotte series stomps on Deltarunes uwu soft boy queerness by having a reveal that's not at all subtle that actually recontextualizes the entire universe. Like, physically altering reality and not in a pretty way.
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>>578151014
He could have gone outside into the light world and waited to intercept the Knight there. Susie even suggests something similar when she first notices the dark world before she realizes that Asgore might be in there. He wasn't being grounded and realistic, he was being delusional in a way that was actively detrimental to his cause. If he had just asked Susie a few questions instead of shoving her out, he could have made some progress on his investigation. He also could have engaged more sincerely with Flowery and asked him some questions since Flowery knows a lot. But he didn't want to engage with the premise of the fantasy world, where Susie is a hero and Flowery is a living person who genuinely wants what's best for Asgore, he wanted to be the hero himself and solve things himself. He stuck himself halfway between fiction and reality without committing to either, which is just delusional.
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>>578151538
media literacy blah blah blah implied blah blah metaphor blah blah read throw the text.
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>>578150997
You’ve got good points. I just hate hearing the notion that the pairing has no depth because there is if you look for it in my eyes. From my experience suselle and krusie shippers are the most annoying, kriselle shippers are the most chill when they’re not the “ABOSLUTE HMOFA DOERAPE SUPREMACY” kind you find here which makes up a loud minority of them.
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>>578151538
Rouxls for thee, but notst, for Me, and all that shitteth
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Suselle = 100% undeniably canon.
Enby Kris = Complete and utter conjecture, no conclusive evidence.
Trans Ralsei = Complete schizophrenia, directly disproven in the game. Not even surprising that Toby the weeb would make a character that's JUST a trap.

I am a normal person with no biases towards or against alphabet gang shit and who's actually played the game. Like it or not, these three things are clearly apparent.
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>>578151218
>I mean you cant even get Ralsei in the dress if you recruited Star Walker.
The "Nah bro..." option convinced me that Ralsei can't be trans because there's no way Toby would let you be that transphobic
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how about no shipping, everyone is platonically friends?
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>>578151564
Why does Asgore keep walking the middle road? Is he neutral?
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>>578151759
It's like he's some king of neutral boss...
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>>578151715
> "Kill yourself"
- Noelle Holiday, probably
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I ship anon and anon
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>>578151715
If only, but Toby made the foolish decision to make all of the deltateens flirt with nearly all of each other to bait all shipfags at once.
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>>578151867
Thanks
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>>578151867
but it won’t work out, will it
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>>578151715
I don’t wholeheartedly believe that will be the case but I have belief nonetheless. It’s cope but it’s cope that feels thematically plausible to me because I’ve heard discussions about amatonormativity in the story before.
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>>578151912
he's just copying homestuck and he'll probably copy homestuck in that all the canon ships suck ass and are unsatisfying, too.
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>>578151912
erm but he hasn't baited berdsei shipfags at all
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>>578151715
once upon a time i genuinely thought the shipping stuff with susie was going to culminate in her rejecting everyone because shes only known them all for less than a week and is happy having friends, that was going to be the joke at the end
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>>578151715
I'm not completely against romance but I wish it was only a thing with the side characters and the main four were just platonic friends
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I get what Susies going through. I also had a manic episode where I had a wet dream about my 50 year old boss at a doggy daycare and I did date her like multiple times but she probably felt really guilty dating like a 20 year old so it didn't work out. It was a flash in the pan thing chasing a complete random feeling.
She also paid like the dog shit i had to clean up
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i wanna be supportive towards cat mike, i really do.
but fucking Pluey? seriously? that name sucks.
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I love to see more people getting on the Ralsei Snowgrave Final Boss train I always liked the idea more than Susie
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>>578152215
Pluey is an adorable name I don't know what to say to you, bud.
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>>578152275
to be fair there is an unfinished Vs. Susie track ingame that has to eventually have a payoff
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>>578152215
Battat...
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>>578152215
well then it's a good thing that's the name of the MINIGAME and not the CHARACTER it's the MINIGAME the character is called CAT MIKE not PLUEY because that's the MINIGAME HIS NAME IS NOT PLUEY THAT'S THE MINIGAME
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>>578152345
Hop on the chapter 7 Fun Gang boss rush train. I'm the only passenger right now.
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>>578152345
Personally I think Vs. Susie (Full) is gonna be a normal route thing for when Susie finds out Kris is a fucking traitor
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>>578151631
They do all have their insufferable fans, though whether they're the majority or minority does tend to vary at least from what I've seen.
Got the Suselle ones who are that textbook "MY YURI MY YURI THIS IS ALL THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO LIKE LMAO COPE CHUDS" type with flag pfps who are fans of (or draw in) that one particular sketchy blushy tumblr-ass art style, the Krusie ones who act like nothing ever progressed past the first few minutes of Chapter 1, Susie's still waist-deep in her mean girl persona, eats chalk for breakfast, has no character beyond calling people freaks and dorks, and is a giant fridge of sweaty hairy muscle who likes punching human MEN (MEN specifically) into lockers, the Kerdly ones who usually just seem to be the Suselle ones falseflagging to keep the spares as far away from their yuri as possible (or people who are scared to ship anything else for that reason), and the Kriselle ones who are... well, the "ABSOLUTE HMOFA DOERAPE SUPREMACY" sort.
I guess most of the negative interactions I've had with any of them have been that specific flavor of Suselle shipper because they seem to be the most widespread in my experience, but I digress.
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>>578152437
Jeez, boss. Calm down.
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>>578152345
personally hoping that the vs susie track isnt structured like this collab between toby and geoffrey day https://youtu.be/tZmevLE0lb0 because that would just be a bitch of a spoiler
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I'm starting to lose my hair. What the fuck am I supposed to do? What if I'm bald by the time chapter 7 comes out?
Said Ralsei
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my yuri my yuri my deltaruning yuri they'll be lining up to play a delta all about me
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>>578152714
Wear a hat so Toby can't see your bald spot when he gains remote access to your computer's webcam at the end of Chapter 7.
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>>578152714
they have medicine for that that isn't even expensive you retard
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Ralsusie.......... I wish we had Ralsusie...
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>>578152735
>it would be so Awesome,
>it would be so, Cool,
- Toby Fox, moments after waking up, 2011
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>>578152714
You should start a new playthrough with a bald vessel
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>>578152805
My mother will disown me if I show any support for doctors or medicine
Said Kris
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I can't even imagine Krusie anymore the apple just won't rotate
Maybe that'll change once the Fucking Traitor plot point finally gets resolved though
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>>578152805
>>578152714
yeah its called estradiol enanthate they sell a years supply online for like 60 bucks
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>>578152275
For me it's Ralsei abandoning Susie to be Kris's Chapter 7B Party Member
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Not feeling quite stimulated enough. I think I'll pay /v/ a visit.
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>>578153619
>mm feeling a bit bored i should go yell at the homeless
alright, Oliviera
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>>578152515
I usually look at kriselle fanart so I don’t normally come across other shippers but when I do lurk the profiles and tweets of suselle shippers, the most aggressive they get is being snarky about common criticisms or generalizing the other shippers which is something I don’t normally see from kriselle shippers unless it’s about people saying the weird route has a theme of heteronormativity. I saw this one krusie fan who wrote this whole analysis about Susie has romantic feelings for Kris she doesn’t understand and while it was very well thought out, it came across as a bit biased. One thing I find interesting is how Suselle shippers suggest Kris could just be friends with Susie and Noelle and be happy that way but are averse to it happening to the other two.
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>>578140242
quiet as they don't communicate, Green is always saying things with her gestures
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>green speaks in hands
Uhhh... Toby?
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>>578154015
green speaks in signs...
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>tell Sans it's nice to see him again in chapter 1
>give Sans a box of heart shaped chocolates in chapter 2
>say you looove Sans in chapter 5
Kris's headcanon is that the SOUL is deeply in love with Sans
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>>578154074
Are they wrong? newgens forget the jello dick era .. probably for the best
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>>578154074
I'd show Kris the funny tongue image if I could
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>>578153690
>One thing I find interesting is how Suselle shippers suggest Kris could just be friends with Susie and Noelle and be happy that way but are averse to it happening to the other two.
Usually, in their minds, the cast is only allowed to be happy if pure mono as-is default Suselle happens with no trouble. They also tend to be the most averse to the idea of Krusielle, even though most people are because it's a little half-baked and mostly just reads as a shallow "everyone wins, no fighting" idea... come to think of it, that might be why they don't like it so much, just in a different way (not trying to vaguepost, just need to give it some more thought).
Might be generalizing just based on my own experience, but it does feel like yurifags in particular act that way the most, since even outside of the DR fandom I see it happen pretty frequently
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>>578154074
The SOUL? Wasn't it sccepted that all options the SOUL gets to choose are Kris' thoughts?
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Kris played Undertale and is a Frans fan...................
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>>578154423
The box of chocolates is purely the SOUL going rogue since it's not a dialogue option
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nvm /v/ isn't that good I remember why I like it here.
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>>578154390
That and suselle is written as the only confirmed romance so they and nonshippers who don’t care as much about shipping don’t expect any breakup happening. I’ve seen some fans bring up noelle’s whole speech in the weird route and Susie wanting everything to stay the same coupled with rudy’s death as leading up to it but that feels like a bit of a reach because that happens in the weird route and she has said she’s feeling better about her life with Susie. I don’t know, what do you think?
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Kris's internal monologue whenever they're not possessed
>Why the fuck is it so obsessed with my brother? It keeps making me go through his stuff
>Why is it so obsessed with the skeleton guy's brother too? Does it just like the general concept of brothers or what?
>Why does it keep trying to make me date BERDLY?
>I need to stop thinking about that thing
>...
>Why the fuck did it make me fall into a hole on purpose until that weird pumpkin thing showed up and made Ralsei long?
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>>578152989
estradiol + finasteride and their hair will be good as ever!
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>>578154864
Something about it does feel too "intentionally perfect" and like by-the-numbers fluff so far in my book, like you can almost feel Toby smirking over your shoulder during things like the normal route lake scene in 5. Maybe to do with how the rest of the chapter is already "one more happy adventure" before things get dark and serious. Even if I liked the pairing even a tiny bit, I'd still get the sense that something unpleasant is coming with the Rudy setup (whether he just hurt himself really bad or FELL DOWN-fell down), the way all the work Susie and the recruits put into the cutesy little festive welcome party is practically begging for dramatic irony to come along and flip it the bird, things like that. Especially on an aborted WR, where Noelle's sanity is mostly being held together by the notion that what happened at the librarby WAS just a dream and she DIDN'T mindlessly freeze a bunch of sentient beings and a real-world classmate/"""friend""" to death, I dunno... I just feel like "hey that was all real actually, I just didn't tell you, now come live with me in happy fantasy world :D" is being set up to happen at the worst possible time. Maybe not a full-on breakup (though I'm personally crossing my fingers for it with how fragile the foundation is) as a result of that, but I at least expect a looooooooooooooooooot of tension. Maybe it'll finally make the pairing feel more earned and less flat than it is currently in some way. As of now, I doubt it.
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>>578155198
Kris is lucky the Soul can't freely talk because imagine the kind of shit we could say if we started taking not only Undertale, but fangames into account
>The fuck you mean you fought in WW2 and killed Hitler who was also the skeleton guy?!
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>>578155778
My thoughts too.
>I'm personally crossing my fingers for it with how fragile the foundation is
I could say this about krusie knowing that Kris’s alliance might be revealed in chapter 6. People have given the same criticism of two people only being true friends for a few days as surely is commonly given but I guess it might feel more earned since their friendship is the bulk of the game. Though, I remember it fully going into swing in chapter 2 because in 1 she was busy goofing with lancer.
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A third trump Deltarune post has hit instragram
https://www.instagram.com/p/DcOwp6rxhgJ
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>>578157014
My president :)
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>>578157014
>Hey there, Trumpy~
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>>578157014
TEN FEET TWENTY
THE ORANGE MAN
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>>578157014
JA-ORANGE
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Clover and Kanko should've been in Deltarune
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>>578157689
if kanako was in deltarune then ceroba would be too and i don't think kris could handle another molester
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>>578157167
IS LOSING HORMUZ STRAIT TO IRAN
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>>578157931
LIKE THE EVERY DAILY
JEFF THAT BEFRIENDS THE ORANGE MAN
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>>578157931
SCARFING DOWN CHEESEBURGERS WHAT A MAN
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>>578157014
the most reddit fucking cringe admin I've had the displeasure of living under
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>>578158167
I truly never expected anyone to make me nostalgic for Big Tex Bush and his global war on terror but holy fuck have we truly fallen apart for no reason over the last twenty years.
At least this dumb future is way more gay and furry than I ever expected it to be.
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>>578130771
Hooman!
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>>578157014
what the fuck is the point of having a still image with music in background?
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i love buckethead <3
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>>578158409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrRVupcvhg
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>>578158368
At least Bushy actually toppled the regimes he went to war with
Said Catdad declaring he's voting Carol 2028
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Carol Holiday
Discuss
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>>578158368
internet and irl culture has merged and the consequences have been utterly disastrous for both
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>>578158698
isn't it obvious?
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>>578158579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8oKtr0pSGE
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>>578157014
The social media intern who makes these is definitely a Rudy Knighter
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I like Noelle
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>>578158898
yeah
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5mG1ZzqIHs
Relevant
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>>578158898
That literally doesn't look like Noelle so I can see why you're a fan.
She doesn't look chopped, quirky, or absolutely insane here.
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>>578157689
if uty characters were in deltarune then would martlet be berdleys sister?
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Noelle porn is okay as long as her face is on model
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>>578159087
I like it when her body is getting STRETCHED nice and wide ;)
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>>578157014
JA-ORANGE
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>>578159049
Sister or aunt or something she can be a role model for. It would've worked so well, alas
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Only Six or Seven months until Susie loses Noelle and Kris and Ralsei all in one chapter
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>>578159049
DR Martlet is Berdly's sister who went missing but he's not a drama queen about it like Noelle
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>>578159049
aged up aunt
still peppy like she is in uty but more mature and doesn't quite have the energy she used to (also just a little heavier)
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>>578158982
Is this drawing more to your liking?
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>>578159425
>(also just a little heavier)
Based
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>>578131049
Yeah, Chara was never officially adopted, (s)he was "like" their son/daughter. Kris is legally adopted, a factual son, not just "like" a son.
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>>578158698
Hoping to see juicy oyakodon doujins of her and Noelle
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>>578159462
unironically closer than 99% of other noelle fanart due to the long face
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susie was raised in a chicken coop by chickens?
hehehahahahahahehehehehehe
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>>578159478
nothing crazy just the amount of weight you'd expect her to have once she's no longer in her 20s
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>>578159462
At least her clothes and antlers make her obviously Noelle. The colors, face, and hair aren't even close but I've seen worse. I try not to nitpick being on model but Susie and Noelle really do get hit over the head with the beautiful stick which loses a lot of their character in the process.
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>>578159586
It must be exhausting hating noelle to the extend where you'd have to make up complete bullshit or be active on xitter for that matter
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>>578159582
This is the one Noelle pairing that I actually like
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>>578159640
And yet she likes to EAT chickens. Can you verify that there fella?
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>>578159869
Oyakodon means it's Kris/(You)/whichever dude x Carol and Noelle
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>>578159586
Noelle is actually the only character you can't remove aside from maybe Kris
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>>578159987
I know
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>>578160060
Was clearing things up just in case since you said pairing and oyakodon isn't a pair
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>>578160004
You could easily remove Noelle, you would have to rewrite about half of Queen's dialogue and Kris would have to solo X-Slash their segment of chapter 2 but she's barely in the game.
The Holiday House segment would have to be removed too but since that's not where we actually get the sjelter code that segment could just be straight up removed.
Most of the lore about Dess could remain and would just get shifted to other hometown NPCs.
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>>578160240
>You could easily remove Noelle
>You'd just have to completely change at least half of the game
Just say you hate Noelle we'd believe you if you did
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>>578160240
But Noelle is the Knight and the entire endgame will be about Noelle
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>>578160321
>half the game
Not really, she's barely half of a single chapter with a light world segment later on.
I'm assuming the parts that were removed would be replaced with "something" to fill the space but as far as the main plot goes she's only relevant to weird route and even then we aren't actually sure why yet outside of obvious boss fight speculation.

If the focus that was given to her was shifted to learning about Susie's home life and family it probably would have improved the game outright.
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>>578131164
heck yes this is delightful
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>>578160452
dude rudy and carol are only in the game because of noelle's existence
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>>578160321
The game insists Noelle is the most precious snowflake in the universe in the Normal Route without her ever doing jack shit to justify it
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>>578160704
It's to add context for the weird route.
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>>578160809
oh god naked Kris chest
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>>578160670
Imagine if we had gotten Susie's parents instead.
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>>578160973
Susie oyakodon...
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what if deer were real
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>>578161084
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>>578157014
how can you have a job where you make cringe propaganda like this but you're still a fan of deltarune?
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>>578160704
It's because the normal route is noncanon and irrelevant
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Any 3d printing fags ITT?
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>>578161323
Everyone on earth is a 3d printing fag but we all can only 3d print turds out our butts
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>>578161323
Yes, is it for the Noelle silicone ass replica you ordered?
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>>578161185
I would do it
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>>578161137
Kris did this to Noelle once and Dess cut their arm off Hammurabi style
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night /utg/ is ending
morning /utg/ shift starts soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBPR09VEjM
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>>578151409
Lucky for having such a sexy juicy penis
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Noelle = Rei
Susie = Asuka
Ralsei = Kaworu
Pink = Mari
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>>578163247
Noelle = Shinji
Susie = Asuka
Ralsei = Rei
Kris = Kaworu
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Tell me that Flowery Trump shitpost isn’t real
I don’t have Instagram I can’t check
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>>578163697
it snew
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>>578163697
You better start believing in bad timelines and wrong saves kiddo.
You're in one.
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i love you
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>>578163909
I love you too, Anon
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>>578163697
It's over.
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I dont like that anon
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>>578164093
I don’t like it either, Anon
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>>578157014
Its really funny how fascists behave like total redditors.
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/utg/ is DEAD
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>>578163697
The what
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>>578136460
>all the set-up is complete
Yes, but set-up for WHAT is the question. Deltarune is ultimately a game where forgotten characters exist, so completely unknown people showing up is an inevitability, good writing be damned. Chances are there's a singular character he could give us at this point that would recontextualize the entire game. And you know who it is.
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>>578165171
It's kind of chill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITa0a-ICy-c
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>>578164056
please dont love me im a fucked up sad creature
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https://x.com/LizieDoodle/status/2088447596876415311 found some pedo Noelle model, thoughts?
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>>578165350
Unless he's a hivemind I don't think FRIEND is gonna be THE mystery character everything leads up to, if anything that's going to ERAM (true form)
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>>578157014
ORANGE MAN, ORANGE MAN
KEKOLD TO THE PROMISED LAND
WITH THEIR PLAN
TO FUCK THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD
BOMB IRAN
NO MORE OIL, NO MORE GAS
PETROL PRICES FUCK YOUR ASS
AIN'T IT NICE?
THE LIFE FOREVER FOR
MIGGERS
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Catti WILL be relevant because there's nobody else Susie (and thus we) will get a straight answer out of if asked about Kris and Noelle's past
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>>578165476
YOU ARE A PREDICTABLE CREATURE
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My gift to poo!
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>>578165587
Rudy will infodump on Susie with his dying breath
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>>578165503
There's multiple mystery unknowns in deltarune

Eram
Friend
Forgotten man
Gaster
Dess
Grillby
Papyrus
Etc.

So where are they? Grillby is obviously important to sans, the game makes that known, so what's gonna happen there? Will grillby suddenly becomes incredibly plot-relevant?
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>>578165425
you're next oldbuddy
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>>578165739
Why are you so focused on this Grillby thing. It's not even a mystery, Grillby will never be relevant. Start caring about the real mysteries.
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>>578165947
the real mysteries are the friends we made along the way
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Grillby is the forgotten man
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Ja oranji
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>>578165819
I ain't ever scared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m393BTIlY_s
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>>578165947
Grillby is the mastermind behind everything. The Ralsei Fireshock connection, The Sans Motherfucker plan, The Anime Mew Mew FRIEND injection. Dig deeper, find what the DOG doesn't want you to know
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This is the level of cope non-Dess-knighters are on.
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>>578166290
I do get this weird premonition that we might never fight the Knight again, at least directly. Anyone else feel this, or is the marker huffing getting to me?
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>reddit screencap
Grim
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>>578166375
if the knight knows what's good for them they wont fight us again or if they do they better have another back-up plan because they're getting creamed in any real battle.
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>>578166375
The Knight being the chapter 3 superboss means that any future fights against the Knight will be unsatisfying for Deltarune's primary fanbase
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>>578166375
Flowery's seed being on the knight's shoulder will ensure we only ever get to fight a weaker version of the knight because of the seed debuff
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>>578157014
Remember what happened to Onionsan?
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>>578158408
To get the ADD normalfags to look at your slop for 2 seconds before the move on to the next one
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>>578166375
Flowery demonstrated that you can force a fight on the Knight. I think Ralsei will use a similar technique and counter whatever bullshit it pulls to try to get out of the fight with his own bullshit. It'd be a cool way of showing that he took Flowery's lessons to heart.
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>>578166375
Knight refight will either have it change forms and/or (more likely imo) will be a soul change mode where its more of a gimmick thing, since I cant imagine Toby will reuse the chapter 3 fight and not make it different. We're definitely getting another confrontation though. I only hope we get a longer version of Black Knife (Blacker Knife?)
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>>578157014
wait i knew the first one had black knife but what was the second one
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I think Pope Francis should be allowed to come back as a ghost just to haunt every war criminal who tries to appropriate Toby Fox's christian/protestant games about kindness and pacifism
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>>578133420
kralsei insane asylum au where ralsei is kris' caretaker and has to feed them pills by hand
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>>578166957
>cant even break 2k likes with desperate meme pandering
Talk about washed
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>>578166717
The Knight has a lot of fancy-looking cut attacks. If it's a boss again, it could use a combination of those cut attacks and entirely new attacks for a whole new boss fight. Plus it probably has some tricks up its sleeves that it didn't use in the first fight.
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The Knight rematch will be a pacifist fight where everyone in your party refuses to fight
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>>578167027
It fits since both Susie and Trump want to fuck highschool girls.
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The knight will have a fat ass
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>>578167238
Toby already used that gimmick
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>>578167267
your dad probably fucked highschool girls
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>>578167027
found it, vs susie
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I'm such a good theorist
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wd gaster in deltarune
built it all from an empty room
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>>578167306
When he was in highschool yeah, I've seen his photos from when he was a teenager and he was a total chad.
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>trump announces he’s pulling out of iran
>plays lost girl over it
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>>578167282
stop tempting me to post desswobblemeat i'm trying to be a good /utg/ poster
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>>578167389
heh, proof? i bet your dad wasn't hot at all, anon... heh...
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>>578167459
trump is trans theory
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Dr Gaster, the late great W D Gaster, we love him don't we folks?
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>>578166375
There will be another Knight fight because it would be strange if there wasn't but what I'm worried about is the rematch being way easier than the chapter 3 fight
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Delectable smoked wobblemeats and herbs.
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The Knight rematch will be us as Kris WITH the Knight Vs. Susie, Ralsei, and Noelle. Knight can't be controlled, similar to chapter 1 Susie.
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DessKnight rematch will feature the black soul mode, with the Knight armor turning into a dress that looks very Alicelike
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>>578167459
When he dies he will do the Ralsei splat pose.
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The Knight
Is
_______YOU______
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Trump WAS Spamtonmaxxing last year, so this development doesn't surprise me.
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Toby is too afraid to release Chapter 6 any time this year because it'll come out near GTA 6!!!!!
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>>578167484
YOUR DAD
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i want to see a presidential debate between flowery and ralsei
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where bread
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>>578167991
it’s baking…
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>>578168035
It's Baking Somewhere Else
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>>578167586
Chapter 5 had a difficulty spike for some of the regular enemies and bosses in terms of their attack patterns. I think the Knight rematch will have attack patterns as difficult as the original fight, but it'll be easier overall because your party members will be stronger. Maybe Ralsei will get a discount on Revive Song or something like that. So it'll be just as difficult to no hit the fight as last time, but normal players can scrape their way through it with healing.
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>>578168035
bake FASTER
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>>578167807
I like that all of Gaster's pirate crew includes Aqua just cause she won't stop saying penumbraphantasmbigshotsworldrevolving.
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TOBY
WHERE CHAPTER 6!?
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i want to see ralsei vs 6 oiled up flowerys
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Thread is getting baked because they hang out with stoners like Dess.
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>>578168252
Penumbra Phantasm
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>>578167613
I really don't want to be forced to side with Kris and the Knight
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>>578167613
I really want to side with Kris and the Knight
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18 naked Flowerys in the showers at Ramb Ranch
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>>578168262
It's okay not to bake
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>>578168326
Okay how about this. Same as previous post except your goal is to sabotage Kris and the Knight by Act/Warning the FUN Gang and getting hit by their attacks on purpose.
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>>578168262
Good, keep baking
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CornBREADless Challenge.
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>>578159582
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This is it, the last utg thread
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I've been saying for years that Undertale and Deltarune are level 2 woke.
Having lgbtq characters and general anti-violence messaging isn't "waking up to the injustices of the real world" woke.
Real woke is something like MGS2 which touches on IRL corruption and how the government wants to control the flow of information, utilizing AI to blur the line between what's real and fake.
So when people are baffled at why UTDR has chud fans because the queer theater kid content didn't filter them, the answer is simple: The games do not offer an open condemnation of conservation authoritarianism. Toby Fox is a culturally progressive liberal at heart, not a based hardcore anarcho-leftist.
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Before the thread dies, answer my question
Who is the most problematic Deltarune character to masturbate to?
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>>578168893
THE LAST /utg/
THE GENERAL'S END
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>>578168849
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>>578168929
>conservation
conservative*
My text-to-speech fucked up im falling
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>>578168958
Kris, Susie, Ralsei, Lancer, Noelle, Berdly, Catti, Jockington, Monster Kid, Aqua...
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>>578168958
The kid who likes splashing in puddles
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>>578168929
Actually retarded post, MGS2 is woke because Olga has pit hair, play the game you larper.
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>>578168958
Titan Spawn
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>>578169069
I said MOST
Give me one
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*wobblebreads away*
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>>578168958
Depends, we're talking off-model or solely on-model?
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>>578169087
This is also true, the unwoke loser Toby would never give Susie armpit hair.
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>>578169115
Aqua, literal toddler
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>>578168571
A boss fight where you get hit on purpose wouldn't be fun
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MEIN BROT
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masturbating to ralsei is what toby wants you to do
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>>578169136
Anything that can be labeled with the character's name
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>page 8
make a new one already
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>>578169204
Could be made fun if the boss was purposefully trying to avoid hitting you with attacks designed around that
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>>578169204
Heel-Turn on Metatton and Tenna say hello.
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>>578168929
Toby is an ultraliberal capitalist who believes in good kings and gods.
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You've inspired me thread. Thank you dot ogg.
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>>578169306
KIM KITSURAGI IS THE KNIGHT!?
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>>578168929
i think people are confused as to why someone who hates the gays and the trans would play a game which has the gays and trans in it by a guy who supports the gays and the trans
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The breads almost ready I can smell it…
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>>578169204
That exists and its the Orange and Green fight you dumbfuck retard.
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DR is turbowoke because the chicks are covered in hair, every inch of Noelle's body is covered in it and so are her armpits and pussy, probably her asshole too
She's not the only one this hairy either
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>>578169378
Dangerously good OC for being this late in a thread.
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all toasters toast

TOAST
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>>578169378
So it's that kinda Treecake...
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>>578169234
It's why I do it.
I understand the mission and I'm here to complete it.
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>>578169436
Because I like Kris, the gameplay and the story
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>>578169436
Its a desperate chud cope that the game isnt actually woke because they like it. Same shit happened with TADC.
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I'm posting my three weeks old Milklooker art cause the bread needs milk to help the dough rise.
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>>578169436
I just gave my explanation. Chuds can ignore gay and trans characters but they can't ignore when the whole game's telling them that the institutions they support IRL are morally bad and evil-Well, actually they can because chud MGS fans exist well egg on my face I guess I'm the idiot baby.
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>>578169902
>but they can't ignore when the whole game's telling them that the institutions they support IRL are morally bad and evil
Yes they can, they do it all the time lmao
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>>578169436
i like gays and most things woke i just dislike trannies
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Which fave says “wow cool robot” in response to themes and such
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Reading One Piece is the only reason why I can tolerate Blue's existence
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>>578169902
You don't really understand chuds then. It's super easy to hate an institution as a chud if you just say "the jews" got their fingers in it.

Said W.D. Gaster. Royal Chuientist of the Underground.
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>>578169902
when a chud complains about wokeness he’s referring to things like making bodies body 1 and 2 despite one obviously female and the other being male or that scene in dragon age where the chick does push ups after doing a heckin misgender. or really overt and finger wagging tier preaching about xism being bad and morally cruel whereas everything against xism is good and clean and pure. stuff like deltarune, mgs, and disco elysium all handle political topics with grace or outright do not involve political topics so everyone can enjoy them
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>>578169807
yeast make bread rise not milk...
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One more sleep until bread...
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>>578170209
Disco Elysium's entire runtime is screaming EVERYTHING BUT COMMUNISM IS RETARDED over and over and over and over, chuds are just legitimately too stupid to understand most of the media they consume or they pretend the overt messaging doesn exist.
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Every Deltarune character could turn to the camera and say "we are all trannies!" and I would still play Deltarune to completion
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>>578170305
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU YEAST LOVING FAGGOT MILK MAKES DOUGH RISE WAY BETTER PLUS YOU PROBABLY HAVE WEAK BONES PLUS YOU WERE NEVER BREASTFED PLUS YOUR MILK IS EXPIRED PLUS YOU SHOULD GO TREAT YOUR SMELLY PUSSY'S YEAST INFECTION
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>>578169807
Homer Simpson
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I still don’t like chud
Not enough bite to modern insults
Kind of like foid and moid
Le sigh
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>>578170547
It has a fun sound to it and its fun to say. Foid and moid just remind me of that pizza mascot the Noid.
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>>578170547
Invent a new term then
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>>578170371
no it isn't… disco elysium takes the piss out of communism, fascism, capitalism, liberalism, centrism, feminism, etc. and it also treats all of them with grace. it explores why someone might choose to be a fascist for example even if the reasons are ridiculous
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>>578170681
>Disco Elysium treats fascism with grace
LARPER MAN
LARPER MAN
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where bread
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>>578170480
Luckily no character in DR is trans
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>>578170209
The original definition of woke is "waking up to the injustices of the world and directly confronting the root cause" it doesn't mean being culturally progressive or whatever
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The bakers are dead
utg has fallen
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>>578170754
it does though. even the meathead guy you fight on the bridge is understandable, even if you know he’s retarded
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>>578170778
yeah so susxie is a trans woman… sorry
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>>578170778
The trans secret boss has the most porn out of anyone in chapter 5.
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>>578170801
ok but we all know cultural definitions change over time and woke has become synonymous with fat blue haired whiteys writing essays online about how games where you play as a cat are racist (this actually exists in multitude, look up stray reviews from kotaku)
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>>578170681
communism is the favourite though,

said Alphys deltarune
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>>578170981
She isn't trans. Toby made the ghosts genderless so you wouldn't see trans in them possessing bodies but it didn’t work ig
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>>578171075
i don’t even know if this is true, aren’t the devs russian? why would a russian favor communism after it turned their country into a shithole
it’s been years since i played disco e but i seem to remember communism being framed as an unattainable dream, as thats pretty much what it is
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>>578171343
The devs are Estonian Marxist Leninists and idk where you are getting the "russians hate communism" thing when nostalgia for the better times of the Soviet era is what keeps the communist party in second place in russian elections



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