>Latest Nightreign patch noteshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1032>Small guide for players who are coming back to the game and want to queue DoN, suggestions welcomehttps://rentry.org/d5guide>How to host 6 player lobbies with seamless coophttps://files.catbox.moe/we1zur.png>Nightreign MoreMapVariation+SoTEWeapon mod guidehttps://rentry.co/ergMMVW>Nightlord resistances charthttps://files.catbox.moe/rd2k5n.jpg>The main information document for Elden Ringhttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Miscellaneous Nightreign Datahttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4>Group/Multiplayer PasswordergTouch bloodstain: >>578081926
>FromSoftware Spent More Time On The Duskbloods’ Gameplay Than Any Other Title, and It Will Be the Most Innovative>As reported in a new video shared by Ziostorm, a Chinese journalist who provided accurate information on Elden Ring before the game's release, recently revealed some small, exciting tidbits about FromSoftware's upcoming Nintendo Switch 2 exclusive. The game was reportedly greenlit even before the marketing campaign for Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice started, and it is the game that FromSoftware has spent the most time on gameplay among all of their games.>All the time spent on prototyping The Duskbloods' gameplay is reportedly paying off, as the game, although PvEvP, features many innovative gameplay elements that the team is really proud of. So much so that the journalist speculates the game could influence games from other studios as much as the aforementioned Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice did, especially with the parry mechanics that are now prevalent in almost every action game.>Miyazaki considers Link to the Past to be GOAT and collaborating with Nintendo is his biggest dreamAre you ready for kino?
>>578173331THE LOATHSOME.... Zork?
DUSKGAWDS REPORTWho you gonna play as first?
>>578173331Looks like an FMV games from 1997. I feel kind of bad for the dusk sisters.
Best Duskbloods preview so far imohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK2m1pr27q0Zork is an ultraman referencethe sigil quests you can do with other players get complicated according to big M (you can already propose marriage to other players with one of the ones in the network test)did not say how many maps there are but they confirmed there are multiple and some stray very far from the vampire aesthetic
Duskbloods looks like nightreign but if you all pvp’d after the nightlord lmao
>emoting to ally someoneSo cute. I'm sold.
>>578173786>Zork is an ultraman referenceNo he isn't. At all. He just said Ultraman has lots of monsters from the depths. All he is, is a deep sea diver vampire.
>>578173837It looks like a 3rd world simulator with the people. While normals are off in the deep religious and magical world of elden ring the poors are off in bongistan time rips fighting vietcong and austrians. It is like wondering what was going on in Africa during WW2. It ain't France thats for sure.
>>578173837you'd be completely wrong as the game cycle is quite different, I look and dress like your picture but I hate pedophiles murderers and bad people
>>578174105>3 days>joinable pve field bosses >map understandment, routing and decision making are key>boon dropping and roguelike perks I am right, you are wrong, stop being a shitter>>578174103I agree
>All the streamers have been dropping NightreignIs it finally over? The fuck are we meant to do with shartblud being only for tendies?It'll be what, another 2 years before another souls fromsoft game comes out?
>>578173331>>578136360The answer is still no cuck
>>578174580Oh no the sisters are trying to influence us with mass opinions again
>>578173837This is what from's "most innovative gameplay" peaks atWhat a blunder
not bery subtle saar
>>578173331Ayo is that Gandhi
>>578174434it's ok, gameplay footage is coming out and you have already been proven wrong, only stupids would feel validated by comparisons of superficialities like the ones you listed
>>578173629Zork.
>>578173786Oro gives way more information
I like Zork's little squid beak eyes.
'zuk it up'zork it down
when is the geezenxus?
>>578173331Trang Lanh will be my main, I will occasionally Zork because he's cute.
> Miyazaki: Personally, I am not very great at these high-intensity action games and things like PvP. So, at the start, the audience really is just myself while thinking about how I would go at this. Are there systems in place that I would enjoy, that cater to me as a player, not being someone who's really into that intense PvP? That's a lot of where it starts
>network test won't have the blond characterno regrets I won't be playing it, even though the previews look very, very interesting
>1/3>2/3>1/3
>>578176267still here
>>578176102which one
Holy astroturfed shit. V and this shithole spamming this slop. I wonder if Anon already has a filter update for this
https://youtu.be/yV0EjPXYZQE?si=N0J-Zp0NYT2teB_H>no backstabsjeecord in shambles
>>578177106Go back to being deported and wearing dresses faggot
Duskbloods sounds fucking nuts desu
What were they thinking?
>>578176362
Duskbloods
>>578177106>no backstabsNo...
>no backstabs>no hardswappingFromsoft pvp was just saved
>>578177505jolly coop and duelfun packed neatly
>>578177505>same 2 anons accepting alliance over and over
>>578177519that's camilla i.e. me when we play together
>you can betray someone mid match at the cost of max HP that's so fucking cool
>>578177815>no radahn beachbut the important question is if Zaki will allow gay proposals or not. If yes, the game is unplayable woke trash
>>578178185shifty and cc...
>>578177505I do declare…
>all this duskbloods spamtotally organic yup
>>578178661We just got info an hour ago for the first time so yes we’re going to talk about it
>we
^
terr
I am literally Albert
>>578179645suck my blood tenderly?
>>578179645Do you really bite into people’s necks like that..?
>>578179861No>>578179873Yes
Will Duskbloods have evergaols or a similar equivalent?Asking for a friend
>>578173331Senator looks the coolest but man Zork is just too funny of a name.>>578178661>pseudo From general is talking about the newest From game that just got a bunch of info properly released>this is a conspiracy!Just go do something else, by tomorrow or monday at the latest you can go back to have your gay erp general.
Zork won btw
>>578179905why not, dumbass! you need the blood points or whatever
'ork
>>578180080Calm down Sludge, you'll find an Albert boyfriend, it's just not him
there's no dungeon crawling, it's just pvp meh
>pseudo From generalSaid no one ever except dsjeet threadbrowns. This gen is for Elden Ring.
How many anons have their tendies ready for duskbloods?
welcome to the 'app family 'ork
>578180176yawn tryhard
gg heolstper
gg heolpilocal ironjar enjoyer not so hot after eating lightning vent to the face
>>578180176Dont worry fag, its not your time yet, this has no staying power just like AC6, once their next game gets announced though, count your days.
>>578173331My retarded husband Zork...
chances shartbloods gets a pc release?
>>578179645new pajeet self insert just dropped
even doe zork is smart and high IQ
>>578180832I don't want you because you are male.>t. Zork>>578180893From owns the IP so it's not impossible.
>>578173331why is zork's spellbound symbol a penis
>>578181026YWNBZ
>>578181204Because you're addicted to porn.
>>578177505And you thought you hated duofags and being the 3rdwheel in Nightreign
>IGN: Being a multiplayer game in this day and age may come with certain expectations like constant updates and new content. How are you thinking about post-launch support and how are you going to approach that once the game comes out?>Miyazaki: In terms of things like bug fixes and balancing, we plan on supporting that as much as we can, and we have experience with Nightreign when it comes to multiplayer games and the level of support that's required to keep those playable and balanced. We're definitely going into The Duskbloods with that in mind. In terms of a content roadmap, we're not really at a point where we can talk about that.So they do have a content roadmap, mentioning NR specifically when it comes to updates is pretty funny though
some of the Kin look cooler and more fun to play than regular Bloodsworn like the pyromancer guy is basically something i've been wanting in nightreign since it came outoh well
>>578177505who's the best pvper in erg to ally with
>>578181753trish and devil
>>578180912No that would be the brown/black one>>57818089350/50 it’ll probably get ported eventually but it’ll take at least a year and by that time who knows what’ll happen
>>578181808can you suggest any non-browns?
>>578181808sister xhe wants the best ones
>>578181861me and my erg always doing an alliance every time we meet in dusky
im zorking it im zorking it so good right now
>>578181204Because he's high T and crushes pussy. When he's not diving (into the ocean and into hot girls), he drives around in a 72 Nova blasting The Edgar Winter Group at max volume.
>>578181956rejected faggot
>>578181808Trish is complete dogshit and refuses to fight other players and devil is a shieldfag.
zork it upalbert it down
>>578173331What the fuck are those names lmao>A nigga named Albert>Layla and it's a man>fuckin ZORK
the hype is really funny when you realize this game relies on good network connection for 99% of the game"the connection was so good on the media preview" yeah because you're in the same room as the fucking network its being hosted onvirtually no chance at it being anywhere as smooth as it looks
>>578182245doesn't pvp and isn't interested in playing with obsessed schizos*
>>578182343just get together with your friends to play in the same wifi? put together a duskbloods club in school? this is like a nonissue
>>578182484No, I think my version is the correct one.
>>578182316>>Layla and it's a manlayla is confirmed a woman btwyes, this is a woman
>my husband is going to be able to propose to me over and over in duskbloodsthank you for this gift miyazaki and also is this your silly way of telling us that Layla was your tripfag name?
>>578182610I'm guessing she's from the nosferatu adjacent clan
>>578173331Albert = WylderJan = GuardianTrang = DuchessLayla = IroneyeSamir = ExecutorZork = Raider
Pretty funny character art direction for the teasers to present several characters obfuscatingly androgynous. Next you'll tell me Zork is a girl beneath.
This thing will shit itself if you sit to its side.
>>578180939>>578180262>>578175563>>578175625>>578180116relax cuck
I will consider it a major victory if I make it past the first culling
>>578183120faggot
>>578183202Proposal rejected
30513202 samenig
>>578183267Proposal unhumoured. I have a distaste for weak and defective men such as yourself.
^ wrong and raped
>>578183009>>578180826>>578173837>>578173052Wyldpartners
slopbloods
>>578183592I just threw up in my mouth thinking about having an alliance with you.
>>578183695I don’t see anything you’re claiming and I apologise deeply
Post yfw Terr/Devil have an alliance so they can battle it out at end
>>578184201Battle of the streetshitters… cinema for the ages…
>>578184201Where's art anon to draw these two?
I propose to Creasy. Please accept
>>578181753If you ally with the best pvper you'll have to fight them in the last phase.
>everyone can just do like 5 air dashesflying freak game
gg hot bug
gg cold bug
>All this hard work to shill a PooVPee extractionDid they even show elden ring running on switch 2 yet? Yeah get your ass blown out streamerfaggots preferably by someone else than your leash holders
>>578182316inspired by the ergie zuk
>>578184448perfect for >>578179372
>>578181351What's so funny about that? Nightreign got shittons of "updates".
>>578183965You stole that joke from me, I trademarked it on this very general circa 3 years ago. Your tantrum is an embarrassment.
>>578182610>confirmedZero confirmation actually. Oro isn't a verified source.
>>578183120>>578183267>>578184201>>578185549>>578183420>>578182717I see you wasted no time to immediately start thread shitting huh
>>578184467cc will you accept my marriage proposal? I will make you a real life duchess my sweetling
>>578173331>laylaThat’s a girl?
>I will be playing the TheDuskbloods™ while the erg neets are stuck playing vanilla D5 and fighting the same enemies with their CE tier relics for the 6000000th timeNeat.
>>578184467>>578184554I rarely see practice in a lobby except with you two nowadays. Does he talk to you
>>578186191that's right chuddie
>>578182610IT'S MAM
they probably have their own steam chat room
WMAF
>>578182610it's no secret that Miyazaki hates beauty, Ishizaki gave us traditionally appealing designs for the Nightfarers (especially the ladies) but Miyazaki's Bloodsworns look like freaks and the female characters look either too prudish or like whatever the fuck that is
Me and the wife
>>578186806No.
So now that they got their Duskbloods infodump out of the way the next non-Duskbloods news from FS will be a proper soulsborne right? Or is this a "holy fuck we can make even more money by just slopping" moment and they're just gonna pump out multiplayer stuff with vague soulsborne theming from now on?
>>578186691Translation of this post: Poor taste character design appeals to enthusiasts of pornography, interesting character design that does not sexualize femininity repels enthusiasts of pornography.
>>578184184That is fine. Didn't have room but Raider's outfit has a key hole on the greatbelt with a bird skull eating it. So far raider's normal, dawn, and darkness outfit are related to the twin-bird.
>>578187050they could have made bloodborne 2 this whole time but they would rather spend time making le switch exclusive
>>578187050From IGN interview with Miyazaki:>"At the end of the day, our motivation is always to just make a game that we want to play, something we've been wanting to make. Like you had mentioned, this time around there were a lot of ideas that had piled up that I wanted to incorporate into a game. On the topic of Nightreign, it's funny because there was never really any big plan that these two games [Nightreign and The Duskbloods] would both release next to each other. I mean, that's a different director, but both of those ideas just coincided with being multiplayer games. It's not necessarily some big reveal saying that this is the direction we plan to go moving forward. We still have a heavy focus on single-player content as well. This is just something that happened to work out the way it did.Only multiplayer slop from now on, goy.
>>578187135Translation of this post: I like Duskbloods' designs because the characters look like freaks just like me after my botched transition
My theory that DOS is/was a genuine mental asylum patient continues to be proven correct
I think the old design >>578177582 was a man but they redesigned into >>578173331
>the wokebloods
>>578186806He’s literally me
>>578186806Left: AschevRight: SalvareSo cute
GG Smoligo
>>578188169>>578186491Stop
>>578188017You talking about your boogerman again?
>>578182610>>578187135xisters! we finally have our accurate t-girl representation!!!!!
>>578185606terr
gg cold dog
zz zold zogs
Shifty...
>>578187050> Or is this a "holy fuck we can make even more money by just slopping" momentSeems to be the case sadly yeah
>>578187976every time I see your posts honestly I wish you well and many trans girlfriends to help you come to terms with your obvious suppressed identity issues
>>578188945trans nvke that'll make her seethe for sure well done
>>578188870nightreign probably brought in 20 bucks compared to millions from elden ring so Big Open World slop is the real lazy money maker direction
Top 5 erg tgirls?
>>578189482why ruin a perfectly nice thread with this again?
>>578189482cupcake trishelfsludge monica
>Missed the train after last round of GG posts
>>578180912literally a brown saar that is also a scalie thoughbeit for the exesaars
>finally got Nightreign platinum after 1372 hoursDamn and all it took was playing one game as executor.
>>578189853I'm 1/3 if you wanna join up
cutie
I'm ZORKING I'm gonna ZORRRK!
1/3
>>578189965>>578190146same
>>578188471Felt called out, lorecow?
>>578189669>cupcakethreadpest>trishthreadpest>elfthreadpest>sludgedoesnt post here anymore>monica/mhg/ threadpest
>>578189482None of them are tops, also troons are gross.
>>578190405True and they should kill themselves as well.
>>578190321how is monica a threadpest?
>>578189482>>578189669>>578190321>>578190494all the same person i reckon
>>578182610Xhes so valid
i dont think people here realize enough how much duskbloods is gonna break the gennie, /v/edditors will either create /dbg/ or will infest /erg/ and we'll have a population where half the people dont even play the main game thats being discussed
I haven’t seen anyone post these so I WILLWe’re /dusk/ing
>>578190597/mhg/ says sohttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/495040874/#495127076
>>578190321Many are saying this.
>>578190597Being a troon automatically turns you into one
>>578184184He can't explain anything he's claiming either, don't worry.
>>578190981Based frogposter keeping the degenerates on notice.
>>578190964Zork the dork, not a fan
>>578189864Lmao they’re definitely flocking to that>>578190673Probably not wrong
>>578190216Not really, don't even know what you meant I just see you call everyone that.
>>578191161There are many interesting people over there.
>>578178263but you could already lesbians ranni and marika in Elden Ring (2022)
>>578190981>lets listen to their resident threadshitting crackheadno thanks
>>495127076>schizos obsessed over people playing the game and minding their own businessJust like erg
>>578191174Rally for guard counters seems annoying as well as his AoE axe thing, Jan an early contender for broken based on nothing
>>578191319No just you dos.
>>578190981jesus, imagine being a grown man and engaging in multiple online communities just to shit in them and pretend to be a girl on the internet while jacking off. that's completely fucked.
>>578191448Seems like a Wyldcuck pick. Not a fan
>>578191434>stop noticing my behavior, saarI'm glad I'll be rid of (You) in /dbg/
>>578191659Ironic, as you just posed the resident exejeet magnet saar
>>578191759He's talking about the previous post, Anon, just look at the thread.
>>578191659Dino being only part of his kit and seemingly just a grab is pretty lame. I thought we were getting a full dinoman
>>578191448>>578191174Seems like the Wyldaryan and Ironbull picks. Good to know.
>>578191850I am following just fine.
>>578191883the troon with the awp is gonna be a menace
>>578173331The chungus Zork.
>>578189586Tgirls are erg culture
And lastly ranni, probably weak>>578191883I’m gonna guess the sniper is gonna be broken then nerfed then buffed then nerfed ad nauseam
>>578191320Why is m*shpakijeeta like this?
>>578192089Then I'm inclined to disagree with you.>>578192263As much as I want it to be him, I don't think there's any concrete proof of that.
>>578191883>speed running game>lmao let’s add a sniper Yeah this guy will farm wins in the beta I’ll guess. Seems like a silly inclusion
>>578191883>a skill for disengaging>passive hp regen when low>ranged-focusedi might main her
>>578192214so epick
>>578192470Killing players isn't supposed to be very beneficial outside of the designated fighting periods and if you do try to kill other people you'll probably get bumrushed by a spastic while trying to aim with sticks. I don't think it's anywhere near as OP you think it is. Just look at bow aiming in Elden Ring and then up the difficulty to 1000 with how many movement options there are.
>>578192447Albert is obviously going to be the Wyldbvll magnet, or the axe dude. Saarmir is the exesaar magnet because brown dexfag and animal transformation. Simple as.> I don't think there's any concrete proof of that.Something tells me the huntress spammer threadpest is the one behind it. >>578190981
>>578191174Everyone is commenting on Layla being a girl's name. But Jan is a woman's name too.
what's he comping on... monster corpse driftwood?
>>578191174this is varre
zork it up zuk it up
>>578192773Killing little pigs fast is going to be beneficial though and I assume you’ll be able to that fast with the sniper while travelling less distance. You also have spirit ashes to create distance. Jan looks strong from what I’ve seen but Layla will probably be meta just based on potential
>>578193262No, that's Bloodhand Janny.
I can't wait to just fucking charge up an R2 whenever some fucking faggot tries to propose to me. I despise the people hyping the mechanic. It's just an alliance with gay undertones. Until they explain what the benefit of it is, I'll stay completely against it. MY only thought is maybe it's a way of making an alliance in no alliances mode.
Forever 1/3>>578193109Jan is a scandi male name in my head desu
>>578193109Jan is a male name for europeans, it's gender neutral at worst while Layla is girl girl
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhh
Albert doesn't have the drip to be as cool as Wylder
>>578193626Terr post. Ignore.
>>578193109Not if it’s pronounced in the German way “Yawn”>>578191338Sad but true
>>578193705>>578193663>>578193109>>578193848Jan or Jean is some archaic European variant of John
>>578193626Terr post. Endorsed.
^said no one ever cocksucker
>>578193820You forgot >>578193406
ONLY 3 FUCKING MAPS LMAO
>>578193820Don't try and make that troon lover seem based
dsgbloods
GG ED Bugs. That was first time I've seen that many dormant powers drop from chests what the helly. Also only having 2 charged negation passives was scary but it went fine, 2 wendies was keeping me overconfident.
gg mystery Animus!
>>578194213>>578194325>>578194471>>578193820you lost
zorking on this thread
>>578193930Jawn>>578194623You tagged me by mistake, I assure you.
>>578194462nightreign has 2 maps
>>578193761he's got sprezzatura
>>578194623Be silent dravidian
>>578194482>>578194631Relax shitter
>>578194462elden ring has one map
>>578193930He's literally John Duskbloods
>>578194623Keep talking aryan
>>578190031who looks like this
>>578195004>Has RallyHe's John Bloodborne you retard.
>>578190031I want dresses and hats like that.
/erg/ - Elden Ring (& Duskbloods) General (Nightreign lost)
>>578193406what are the implications?we gotta 'zork it up then 'zuk it down
>>578194791and Nightreign is an asset flip made by the C-team with a box of scraps, Fromsoft's A-team has supposedly spent more time developing Duskbloods than any other of their games
>>578195247No. There's a reason why /bbg/ was created back in the day.
For Duskbloods I will be a white guy with an appropriately sized sword
when is the network test?
>>578195516True. /dbg/ could NEVER compete…
>>578195893about 14 hours
>>578195515>””””””””A””””””””” teamDemon Souls, Dark Souls, darksouls3, duskbloods>B teamDark Souls 2, Sekiro, Nightreign
>>578196091/erg/irl that looks like this?
I will kill anyone that proposes to me
>start queuing at 6:30>leave at 6:55>come back at 7:10>there was a gg at 7:00>still queuing at 7:20
>>578195518ergo: dagger
>>578196267it's time to put down the game anon, we're all moving to /dbg/ soon
>>578196091>>578196221clapcake and trishtina
>>578196247>cc and shifty team up>cc backstabs shifty partway because latter opened one too many everbounds
>>578196091Wtf is that feet
>>578196501Dragon ball general?
>>578196802It would be “wtf *are those* feet” here my friend :)
>>578196802look up foot bindingor don't, it's rather gross
>>578196936I dont care
>>578196897Sludge...
>/erg/ - Elden Ring (Duskbliggers and Nightriggers will be killed) General
>>578197024Take it easy raj
Nightreign is irrelevant now
>>578197104it would be way better for all of us if we just split into 3 at this point
>>578196028who made bloodborne and armored core
>>578197416If we actually split the thread the shitpost would decrease dramatically on nrg
>>578197516Me
ev&doe we merged
>>578197339poorfags will have no choice but to keep playing since the shiny new game is beyond their reach
>>578197416>>578197546I missed it when it was nrg and erg. ergies don't play any game, they just schizo hate post all day.
zork general
>>578197416nrg would die tho it always does…
>>578197662I would post in /zorkg/So the thread split would be>/zorkg/>/nrg/>/erg/>/dsg
no stop now this zork stuff is too reddit please
dsg always wins btw
is dsg in room with us
WHERE WE ZORKIN BOYS?
Sup nightas
we never left
How about>/dsg/ - Duskbloods General?
>>578196028Sekiro was B team? Isn't Miyazaki ashamed that the B team keeps mogging him?
the ergizorkis
Fsg
zorky porky is so dorky
is zork dsg
zork hitting /erg/ like little boy hit hiroshima
TheZorkulars
zork is already the ironic reddit characterthe true aryan dsg character is samir
>rapid fire dsjeet threadshittingSo lame and raped
>>578198510Samir = dalit
>>578198510The guy who can't drive? Who broke the car?
>>578198649We used to pray for days like these
>>578198649It's normal to let your friends play with your spine stop making me feel bad about it
this is the end for the ergiebrogis the dsg shall rise from the ashes
>>578194791shartreign troons BTFO with this factoid
zork is grok's cousin
>>578194623Pipe down loserjeet
>>578197546all of the shitposting I see is nightreign related, trannies larping as nightreign characters, the same 3 people playing the same three nightfarers ggposting, or shit like >>578198649giving nightreign alone it's own general would make things better for the rest of us.
it's gegreign
let's have a fc and the winner shall decide if zorkposting is allowed
ok *equips full verdigris and bleed Pata* meet me in the arena
Ds3 fc
>>578199318Ergies hate PvP, though.
>>578199318I'm gonna zork, I'll keep doing it even if you kill me
How long until some modder mods in duskblood content to base er and nightreign
queued
Zorkposting somehow gayer than gay ERP
I really liked the bit where zork said, “it’s zorking time!” and started zorking all over the place
>>578199535It's not a PvP fight club, it's a real life fight club. We're meeting up at the park IRL and I'm going to kick the shit out of all of you so that I can Zorkpost. Also, if I like your shoes, I'm taking them after I beat you up.
>>578199016The shitposting happening as we speak for the last 50 posts is over the newest reddit pet toy Zork
>>578199884zesty of you
I like Zork because he reminds me of Horace and I like his armor.
>>578200194it just wouldn't be home without the fromsoft poise chungus, it just wouldn't be home
We should make /nrg/, /dsg/, /erg/, and /duskg/
>>578199998>50 zorkposts over the last day>200+ general threads completely shat in for the last year and some change, full of the same 7 terminally online troons flirting with each otheryeah i'll take zork
combat looks goofy af ngl
>>578200403>combat looks goofy af nglThat's okay. You can go play a ball or gun game nigger
>>578200403You don't like fighting with 7 airdashes because you can't abuse your circling and spacing footwork exploit? What a scrub.
so we fucking with zork now...
>>578200540I don't like it because it looks like assfaggots gameplay where your encounters are decided by which one of your/their OP skills is on cooldown
We are the Trangieyogurts
combat looks mid but characters look very quirky
>>578199016>all of the shitposting I see is nightreign related>the same 3 people playing the same three nightfarers ggpostingPlaying the game is shitposting nowbro you can't be serious, you need to be put down im sorry you're too far gone
>all of /erg/ rushing to propose to Trish in DuskbloodsKino
>>578200475He unironically said "goofy af" so you correctly clocked Jamal as the negro he is.
Zork will likely be utter dogshit if you're not relying on his abilities because they always make heavy weapons way too slow until people complain and then they'll have to buff them 5 times before they become usable.
>>578201087they have been frenzied by their duskbloodlust
>>578201087>steam duotroon melty
>>578201120I do this
miyazaki learned from the zuk he is one of us
>>578201120mushpaki on the right
>>578201120Which erg girl will get proposed to the most?
Nightreign walked so that Duskbloods could suck
>you can marry other male bloodswornKek imagine paying 70 bucks to play woke fagslop
>>578201120Trishtina and Devil look so cute together!
There're at least 2 people here who will play the network test. Is there anyone else?>>578201120This post is delusional in multiple ways.
>>578197186You take it easy
>>578201720Queer coded franchise thougheverbeit
>>578201738>trish stealing devilcupcake and zombii have formed an alliance to kill trish
>>578201087>just playing the game, maybe chatting here about it with others doing the same, the occasional shitpost here and there>a dozen posts from the same 3 people every 45 minutes clapping each other on the back for fighting the same bosses they've been fighting the same way every day for a year you're right, same exact thing, what was i thinking
>>578201442cc
>>578201153They never learn. The real way to make slow weapons fun to use, is by buffing their damage, not their speed. Being slow is acceptable if you hit like a truck.Game developers me like "The big bonk stick is 2x slower, but it does 2x damage", and they think that's fine. But 2x slower actually diminishes your hit opportunities by 4x. So speeders are actually getting 4 hits for ever 1 of your slow hits, dealing damage twice as fast.And you might be thinking "erm, but hyper armor..." Doesn't truly fix the issue. Because you're still taking some damage, even if it's reduced. While the speedster dodges everything, taking zero damage. And because hyper armor is tied to specific actions, it makes you too easy to read. You can only "safely" attack during certain windows, in order to ensure hyper armor "protects" you. Your opponent picks up on your pattern, baits you into your hyper armor timing, then punishes you for it.Meanwhile, they have way more mix up opportunities, since every strike of theirs is a small interval of time, they have more opportunities to change.All of this could be forgiven, if when the big weapon struck, it did devastating damage.
>>578202281you really cooked here big genius boy/girl
>>578201738>>578202025>Ywn be as desired and fought over by cute /erg/girls like how Devil isWhy even live...
>>578202372mushjeet...
>>Ywn be as desired and fought over by cute /erg/girls like how Devil is>Why even live...
>Deviljeet hyping himself up in third person againSo lame and raped
>>578202281This is why you're not involved in game design decisions.
>>578202281>>578201153Day 1 scrub opinion. Staggers are the big shit in this game. It's like AC6 in that way. Because of this, heavy shit will do just fine. He also gets to SUPER howl which is also a big stagger generator. I expect him to be AMAZING in PvE and surprisingly scary in PvP becauee of his stagger potential. He'll be fine. In fact now because you said that, I'm gonna roll him first tonight. I wasn't sure who to play but since spellbinding enemies is cool and you can get a fuck off super invincible HP bar by ZUCCin' a bunch of players to death, he sounds super fun.
>>578202983ZorkGOD....
>>578202983Can't stagger what you can't hit. But I'm just speaking generally. I haven't played Duskbloods, so I can't really say what heavy weapons will be like in that game. I just know that Fromsoft has a bad track record with heavy weapons. A straight sword with the stand off ash is 10x more stagger efficient than a colossal weapon.
Why do browns want everyone else to hate them? It's getting very fucking tiring at this point.>>578202983>I expect him to be AMAZING in PvEMe too, simply because of stunlocks.>surprisingly scary in PvPI think he'll get carried by his abilities and his gun will be decently strong. Maybe it'll work like the blunderbuss.
>>578202372it's literally devil talking about himself in third person like always you retard
>>578200387You said all that you see which isn’t true>>578200829Damn you’re right that’s exactly what it looks like
gg horse. I wondered why my build felt so dogshit I didn't change my relics from whoever skipped the augur fight before I was all in on affinity damage and double balancers I didn't even notice until right before the boss gate.
>>578202675I look like that and say that
>>578203269>Can't stagger what you can't hit.I can just hyperarmor poiseblob trade amigo. I'll also have a kin to play around too. >>578203287Yeah I expect the speargun to do WORK and to just basically mostly try to win trades and go GCs and shit.
>>578203287brutal, you were absolutely robbed
Happy for you zorks
gg and whoops
>>578203595>hyper armorI already stated why hyper armor isn't a real solution.>kinEh? Did you mean "kit"?
>>578203287>>578190964He has a speargun. I do want a blunderbuss character however.
How's the ds1 remake? i've never played any ds games.Actually no, what's the best dark soul according to YOU?
>>578203850No. I mean kin. Hyper armor will work fine. You're simply thinking narrowly along some sort of headcanon when you can just get in on me and attack and I just sit there and eat it like a bitch. I have a super howl, a gun and my kin.
>>578203860clapcake…
>>578201952That’s all I do, saar
>>578203551we know terrdalit
>>578203860Devil is so lucky bros
>>578203709I didn't mind dying like that because it was funny.
>>578203997>>578203850Pic related: Kin
KIN OF THE COSMOS??????
>>578204383Kin of the Bloodsworn
>>578203997You talk like a fat redditor and yeah, slow weapon dudes have always been eating it "like a bitch" in pvp in these games
>>578203860Wylder is so fucking lucky
>>578204564You talk like an unlikeable pseud with a midwit IQIn the ones where the PVP is an afterthought and optional. This isn't that. He'll be fun and fine. You realize Zork ALSO gets the airdashes and 4 jumps right?
>>578203896>How's the ds1 remake?Fine, it's DS1 with some QoL and slightly better graphics. Aside from the Vamos bonfire, there's no big changes.>what's the best dark soul according to YOU?i like each for different reasons. DS1 I get bored after O+S now, and invasions are dead. DS2 is fun for arena shenanigans if you can get any activity, and it's fun to play around with some of the weird weapons (think it's been almost 2 years since i've played DS1 or 2), and it feels like a massive adventure compared to the rest of the series. DS3 has some of my favorite bossfights, and invasions (outside meta level) are my favorite in the series and some of the most fun I've had playing a multiplayer game. They all excel at their own things, just depends on what you're after.
>>578204546bro's
Where druggieterr??
Lies of P > Duskbloods
Learn the circling exploit.
>>578205357zorkposting
>>578204641Sorry to burst your bubble but canonically wylder isn't into incest
>>578205424no point glazing a no builds game in an I heart builds general
>>578206941I look like this.
>>578206941aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wtf
Healing
>>578198973you lose
>>578173331The interesting thing is that according to Oro, this was being made since 2021, so that means NR is essentially them thinking>hey this is cool, how about we take this and give it an ER skin and co-op focus?Which means NR is the DaS3 to Duskblood's BB, except this time DaS3 came first.Though i will say>Nightfairers>>>>>BloodswornsIn terms of character design, the latter are just very fucking weird overall and not always in an appealing way, while the former are all 8/10 designs at least.
>>578205678>wastes more time than just normally rollingyou're the one who needs to learn to do it properly, you sip too late
>>578207689Oof terrible take. The Blood Sworn are really cool. Don't forget>Vampire Hunter D>Greatsword Oni Monk>Gravity ShotaAre all things too. I'd say the game has at least 10 Blood Sword. I hope it's closer to 14 thought because it's 8 players so I'd like there ot be lots of variety.
>>578205357Dead in a ditch hopefully>>578205424Truth nuke alert
gg hot dragon, what was it you wanted to kill down there so bad
>>578207858I was taking in the moment, xis.
Duskbloods won.
>>578201858No I have a switch but I’m not wasting my one year of online code early for a 3(?) day network test
>>578208108Daconic tree sentinel. What was so important that you couldn't help me? I didn't go to the mine, because I didn't need a stone, and besides I was already halfway to the rise when I noticed you guys heading toward the mine. So I figured the next logical step would be to kill the powerful boss directly outside of the mine. I was so sure of this, I didn't even check your position until I died, and realized you were all the way at the castle. Then I got stubborn and tried to beat it anyway until the circle cut me off.
gg annoying animus
>>578208373This tbqh
>>578208412I think you could've used your 1 week free trial.
gg big Caligo!
>>578208483thanks
>>578207876You also forgot Katana Leatherman from the og trailer.They said more than 10 already so im expecting between 12 to 14>The Blood Sworn are really coolEh, its a mixed bag for me, Albert, Senator and Zork are cool but Jan is plain and odd, Trang is meh and i hate Layla as a female character, if it was some robot or male skelly but wasting a female design on a corpse like that is just lame, though the ones not in the test i do like from the little we've seen of them. Nightfairers still win easily though, the only weaker design for me is Executor and only because i dont like the open helm for a crucible knight.
>>578208545Oh. I didn’t know I had one?
>>578208439castle and north was the more obvious line up of bosses to me. To me, that south east boss is something to do only if we want to use the bird, I always avoid it.
Hi Albert
the lands of dusk
>>578208693Everyone does unless it has already been used, you can look it up. The free trial resets every now and then.
>albert is coolWyldcuck alert
>>578208852If it were a regular boss, then I get what you mean. But it was a powerful boss, and you were already halfway there. A quick jump on the spring would have returned us back to the castle
>>578208979Hi Zork
>>578208674>You also forgot Katana LeathermanThat's Vampire Hunter D
>>578193247I think he is just hitting his head, getting a concussion and schizoing reasons to kill someone in the process.
>>578209048I don't make a distinction between normal and powerful field bosses when I choose where to go.
>>578191883why is her pussy out
>>578209860shouldnt u if you want more than a blue whip and 7000 runes
>>578209339Oh then you missed the guy riding the headless horse, the designs are clearly different. Leatherman uses a katana and the horse guy uses a rapier i think.
>>578205929He is? Where is that stated?
where is the 2kat negress
>>578210236That's an enemy I'm pretty sure. But yes that enemy is very D too.
>>578207689>this was being made since 2021That was when it began development maybe but it’s been a concept since 2017 or something >>578208674True
me doing soulslike tasks to become virtuous
At least Albert isn't Indian like Wylder
I will be the next zorkbal
>>578210475>>578210236>>578209339It's a Tresspasser/Boss. Pictured right next to text about bosses
I will be the next Vietnamese prostitute
yu h let's get zorky
kino
Playing Trang and getting proposed to by Albert players just like my cooking channels with asian girls and their supportive white husbands
>>578177505>>578181321There's a no Alliances playlist. I'm going to ONLY play that. Hugbox shit for PvEbabs. They'll probably invent a gesture that signals to the other hugbox bitches that you did something redman-like at one point and they'll all gang you and shit.
>>578192773it doesn't give win points but apparently does give XP just like killing monsters does.
>>578211394>>578210475Oh damn i really thought it was a bloodsworn with such an unique design, oh well i guess we will see what are the few characters they havent shown then.
Why is Devilsaar like this?
gonna 'zork it up rn
Thank god Albert is Aryan like Wylder
>>578211747based (but only if you’re not… you know)
mig up duskies>>578212521>>578212521>>578212521
>>578202178I think you're reading too much into it. It's just some simple gg posts every once in a while between the people actually playing the game. Why not complain about the schizo spam? How is people playing the game this high on your priority list to complain about?
too early nujeet
>>578212716some here believe it to be kek
>>578212327>White woman very beautiful saarsClassic Jeet behavior
Who is the lolita girl in the older screenies
>alluring skull meows
>>578212836It's a bluds thread not erg
Ergbros... Duskgawds are laughing at us again...
>>578213560we already have this thread for fromsoft discussion, sis
>>578213617It clears says elden ring general, retard.
>>578213617It would be called fsg if that was the case. Dusk should be its own thread
>>578191467When you put it like that it sounds creepy anon
I carried
gg disasterkino>level 2 invader fort rooftop spawn goes wrong yet again, everyone dies>"The Balancers will judge..."
>>578191659>SenatorI used to play college ball, you know?
phew. That Caligo fight felt like the early D0 days.We flubbed that first invader fort, because we didn't kill everything on our way up. We couldn't afford to deal with the invader and all the enemies together.
zorkies should lose some weight
>>578213815>>578213828not a lot of that discussion going on atm anyway or for the foreseeable future, kind of pointless to nitpick or start drama over
>>578214014>we didn't kill everything on our way upAnd I knew that sounds like a slow and tedious idea. It is. But it's also safer. If we clear the fort, then we lose a bit of time, but not as much time as we would lose if we fell into a death spiral. We also level higher, because of the runes we collected. So the next POI will be easier to handle.In our case last game, even if we didn't clear the fort before the balancers took us, we still would have had enough runes to level up and dispatch the balancers more quickly.
>>578214289Nitpicking is all they have anon
>>578214385>>578214014I know it's safer but cba really, invader PoI enemies are way too tanky at level 2, I'd rather just risk italso it took forever to rot caligo wtf, didn't even get to use my rivers
>>578214692The snow particles in Caligo's arena didn't render properly for me. So I had perfect visibility on her all fight. that was neat.
>>578214289It's going to need its own thread regardless, might as well make one now.>foreseeable future>there won't be a lot of discussion when the game comes outWild take. I guarantee it'll be faster than a lot of generals here.
>>578214934Nobody is getting a Shitch poo to play that kusoge
>>578214934I’m getting a Switch 2 to play Duskbloods
How do we stop what’s coming (Duskbloods)?
>>578215138Forgot to say I'm trans btw
How do we stop what’s coming (the confirmed death of Nightreign)?
>>578215598we simply embrace it at this pointnightreign was a fluke and we should be happy that duskbvlls will carry forth and it only costs $570 united states dollars + nintendo switch online subscription + tax + tip
>>578215598>>578215397We don't, so feel free to leave our dead thread and take your wonderful posts to duskg
no real need for a gennie yet when it's just network test and we have this existing fromcesspit. not like the elden rings alone warrant their own thread apart from the rest of the soulses at this point, being a done franchise, movie and all
>>578215778is it truly over for erg
I know we ergies are naturally submissive but what is the best way for us to submit to the authority of Duskbloods posters?
Who's confirmed from erg to be playing Duskbloods?
'gies
>>578216489eeeeerm... can we not project our personal fetishes in here??
>>578214005If only he was that cool>>578214289It isn’t pointless, it’s its own game and not one that relates to these, it makes sense to do this, albeit probably a little premature
>>578216489erg has a future if it plays nice right now but it could meet a very similar fate to its predecessor at this juncture
The darkmoon girl is kinda like Duchess... Based...
pretty sure nakadashi is just somebodys alt
>>578217363You sure? Their relics make me think they are someone new.
>>578216741like what does nightreign have to do with elden ring apart from shoehorned fanfic lore and shared assets? it's laboriously nitpicky to chisel up distinctions between this or that reskinned fromsoft multiplayer action game. you might as well tell tesg to split into as many threads as there are tes titles
>>578216689This has been an erp general for the last year and a half.
>>578217826Helping anons cum is an important part of co-op nightreign gameplay
>>578217760I personally thought it should have been its own thread too but the fact alone that it’s called Elden Ring Nightreign and has a shared universe is reason enough. DB is an entirely separate property.
>>578217297No because Albert is clearly Duchess.
>>578216651>kvno only oldGODS remember
>>578217928does this apply to the base game as well?
>>578218154Yes.
>>578215598Not happening since Duskbloods is nintendo only, so just like DaS2 didnt die with BB, just once DaS3 released.There is also the point that the next multi-plat From game wont fill the same niche as NR, but thats still the most likely point when NR will die.
>>578217928Shut up Solaire.
>>578217992How so? Moon goes invisible and has a dex weapon
>>578217928kek
>>578212716schizo spam is hilarious, there is nothing more entertaining than the mentally ill giving us a window into their lunacy.
Duskbloods wonned
>>578216492Literally nobody Hahahahahahaha
>>578218935This tbqh
I don't actually own a switch yet let's see how the neetbux stack
Janny why the FUCK do I keep getting range banned? Are my fellow australians shitposting that much?
i-it's coming to PC after a year, right bros???
>>578219182It’s probably what you were wearing more than anything. Dress less provocatively next time
>>578217363Honestly what I was thinking. I think it's someone seeing how far they can take their griefing before getting mass blocked
>>578219247It can get in the queue, after demons souls and bloodbourne
i wanna choke parky with her necktie
>>578219247Let us pray to the Lord, sis
Duskbloods carried
>>578216492Exactly 9 of our most disturbed trannies. That's it
>>578216492DevilGAWD
>>578216492PAWGcake
>>5782164922 peoplehttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/577938945/#577964071
Druggyterr is playing the duskbloods he will post for us...
>>578221972facts +senator papo is our mascot
So what I'm getting is Duskbloods is just a more fleshed out nightreign with pvp being the main addition?
>>578219247Could take longer. Don’t hold your breath. >>578220298>>578220976Probably the case.
>>578222170You might say so
>>578221972They left out Steve Poop. Why is nobody talking about Steve Poop?
>>578222580That's a summon
>>578220293>>578218935>>578216489>>578215138few are saying this
nerf zork
buff zork
and so, we inhabit a goated timeline
Is Zork reddit?
"billions must die" lookin ahh
>>578222327Thank god I'm not missing out on much then
>>578223107not if we're cautious
>>578223107If Zork is reddit, than call me a fuckin' redditor
>>578223778redditor
>>578223778redditor tourist
>>578222580He is a summon/kin/servant
>>578223778>>578223809>>578223983Very Reddit trying too hard to fit in by calling each other Reddit Redditors
>>578173786So does the marriage sigil just pick a random character?Is it going to make you gay randomly?
>>578223778We know frogjeet
zork is peak ledditwow so wacky hes an undersea diver in this gothic style game and he wacks people on the head with a giant undersea cable and he can fly using a jetpack and he has missiles
>>578224232>if i "no u" their argument they won't think I'm a redditorHow pathetic, just go home already.
>>578224342Typical Reddit meltdown it’s time to go back
CTRL + F "zork"
>disasterkino>look inside>creasy + sludgeif you laugh you get zorked
This reddit circlejerk is clearly reddit
>>578223778
>>578224691This general has been redditesque for a long time, in large part thanks to a handful of ex-dsg retards.
this is gonna be interesting, wonder what they plan on havinglike loadouts I guess maybe a skill tree of some kind
>>578224691This general has been reddit forever, in large part thanks to all the Elden newfags
>>578224818How are sharty expys reddit
>>578224871>Oblivion style magic crafting
>>578224871I’m going to spec into the tendie rage for real though
>>578214001love sludge
>>578224871You'll be able to buy sidegrade skills/aspects
anyone wanna queue?
>>578225143And you'll pay with "First Blood">>578225093>The only character who gets paid for killing even if he doesn't get virtueHe's gonna be considered chudcore
I love you
>>578225496love you too
>could've had a cool pyromancer character for nightreign>instead he exists as a fucking assist trophy in temu bloodborne grim timeline
>>578225496ewww
>>578225496>>578225550why
>You can also change various settings, including changing the Graveyard Scarecrow to a different opponent from the menu, entering a compact with any kin, or changing your Bloodsworn level.duskblood training room gets a customizable training dummy but we have to jump through hoops and mods
>>578226050>>578225576This is erg, not duskg
Who is best Souls director?>MiyazakiDeSDaSBloodborneDS3 (some of it)Elden RingThe Duskbloods>TanimuraDS2 ScholarDS3 (most of it)Elden Ring (most of it)>Masaru YamamuraSekiro>IchizakiNightreign
>>578225576Oroboro was saying duskbloods was being developed before ER even came out. If that's true, than he's the OG, and every nightfarer is the temu knockoff>>578224693>>578224249>>578223983>>578223809curbstomped my ass
>>578226098my posts are talking about elden ring: nightreign too thougheverbeit so you can erg my nuts bitch >>578226297I don't really doubt thiswhen it comes to the cutting room floor all things kind of blend together, monsters, characters, weapons, spells, etc
q..?
zork..?
>>578226297You are a boss. a pillar in the making...
>>578208674>Jan is plain and odd I think that's a problem about his outfit more than who he is or how he plays. I hate the Pajamas too but he'll have skins. > i hate Layla as a female characterI don't believe in that meme just yet. It seeming likely though. >Nightfairers still win easily thoughThis is because you've been obsessing about them for so long, not because of anything tangible. You'll probably find them growing on you big time epspecially once you're 18 months deep into Duskbloods culture.
>>578226297>Oroboro was saying duskbloods was being developed before ER even came out. If that's true, than he's the OG, and every nightfarer is the temu knockoffFromSoftware has always had simultaneous projectsDemon's Souls and Dark Souls were solo projectsDark Souls 2, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3 were being simultaneously developed in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 DSII started off under the direction of Tomohiro Shibuya, who got fired and replaced by Tanimura who had to salvage the project and who had to pick up the pieces 6 months from launch, then make DLCs, and then Dark Souls 3. Miyazaki came into Dark Souls 3 after Bloodborne, designed the Ashes of Ariandel and Ringed City DLCs, before starting work on Elden Ring.Sekiro and Elden Ring were being simultaneously developed between 2016 and 2022Nightreign and The Duskbloods have been simultaneously developing between 2021 and 2025
even doe pyjamasjeet is the lol so weird and random chungus (not that zorkjeet isnt r*dd*t 'beit)
>>578227606he's minmaxing his equip load
>>578224253That’s this whole game in general it’s just a bunch of quirk chungus shit mashed together into one pozzed hodgepodge
ZorkVerbZ•o•rk ˈZ-shə-ˌre-kē -ˌfe-rēplural ZorkSynonyms of Zork1: to win in electronic form containing words usually alphabetically arranged along with information about their forms, pronunciations, functions, etymologies, meanings, and syntactic and idiomatic uses
I think miyazaki said take a bunch of things you would never put together and put them together
>>578224253>in this gothic style gameAnon, the different maps are different eras/timelines. There's a fuckin' diesel/steampunk era in the first trailer you goober.
>>578226297He said DB was a temu Bloodborne though>>578224992Singular
>>578228309honestly all the diesel/steampunk stuff like zepplins kind of alludes to the fact that they're making a single player game in that flavor probably has nothing to do with elden ring... maybe?
>>578228309There are 3 maps, gothic city, 19th century train station thing and one more, maybe the forest+church from the og trailer.
>>578228309convoluted as fvark...
>>578228887That's more classic copium but you can maybe rest easy knowing Miyazaki loves the setting and will maybe come back to it again. They could also spin off a singleplayer Duskbloods game in the future. >>578228962That forest and church are in the gothic map. I think they're hiding a wholly foreign map. Maybe a more ancient setting. Maybe something Asiatic.
You know, its kinda sad to see in Duskbloods how zero effort was put into non boss pve, those shambling corpses are fucking nothing enemies.
>>578229067Busting Creased gallons if we can fight in a Forbidden City map
Lmao I think that caps off my nightreign adventure once again and mortal shell2 is near done. See you in /dusk/
I thought I could carry us through that. But the timing of the last attack was devilish. Creating the AoE, at the same time it shot its lasers. If I dodged, I get hit upon recovery. If I wait, I simply get hit. A lose/lose situation.
>>578229631I'm just saying... Trang.... The Blue Oni..... Maybe we get to see Ratma or whatever the city or region it is that Trang's snake guards? I'd also enjoy a medieval euro space that's more like a 16th century "Vlad the Impaler's Castle" kind of space. I just wonder if we might get something very different as the one they're not marketing [this might indicate the theme is dissonant or weird with the rest so it's being left out to keep the marketing themes simpler]
>>578229819Sorry you had to play with naka
>>578229819I would have alt f4d when I see Creasy plus naka.
gggreg
I blocked nakadashi already. Being new is one thing, refusing to learn basic shit is another.
>>578230004
>>578230068This tbqh
>>578229860Sorry I’ve just been using stupid builds and I can’t dodge the laser beams as scholar and no negation
where is trish whats her new troll alias gurrrrllllltinx
>>5782298197+ bar'd. Cute bimbo merchant.
>>578229862the reedlanders...
>>578230556he's boycotting the game until cc unblocks him
Tick tock Niggerein fags - your time is almost up. You've been putting it up for a year now.
>>578231418>pvpslop>tendie exclusivechudreign isn't going anywhere until we get a real new souls game on pc
>>578229990That hurts. I performed well that game. I'm just not carry good.if they just died a liiiiiittle less, we could have pulled through.
>>578226176So wait, is Duskblood what Miyazaki has been working on the most since halfway through elden ring dev?
>>578231887*Ahem*
>>578231272Among them it is I who is raped
>>578229990Creasy didn't make sludge go down 27 times in the nightlord.
>>578232674Holy freakin ergie peace
>>578232674Me on the right
gg dog
@me when they announce god4
L2den ring
IGN: Following up on this being a Switch 2 exclusive, is there more you can share about how and why you went with Nintendo, a little bit more detail about how the partnership came about? I know you said that you pitched this and it's pretty much the idea from the start.Miyazaki: In terms of the reason that we initially decided to go with Nintendo, we had had an opportunity to discuss the idea for the game with them and I think they seemed very excited and very receptive to the idea, they seemed very forward thinking in terms of how to do it. Before considering the business aspect of it, that alone was something that I found very appealing and gave me a lot more reassurance for moving forward with this.Of course the game isn't out yet so there are more things to consider, but in terms of the relationship currently and how we think it's going, up until this point – the systems and the overall ruleset of the game are very unique, and I think having someone who can constantly give us feedback, support, additional ideas, and the balancing first of all because these features are quite complex and difficult – having this relationship is definitely key to that. Also with the complexity of the systems, the onboarding tutorials and making sure players understand how the game works and how to succeed in the game is something we've historically not been super great at conveying instantly. We've definitely just dropped players in and hoped they would figure it out. In this case, Nintendo is definitely the right partner for better conveying that information in a way that is understandable to the player; it definitely suits their strengths.
>>578233883Is elf our cutest slopper?
>>578233823Oh dear, another dogged contender?
>>578234070honestly...
I want to die
>>578234070no
>>578232573Yeah, it's been in development since Dark Souls 2. Miyazaki said this is his true vision he's been trying to create his whole career. Elden Ring was exclusively made with cut content from the Duskbloods that he felt didn't meet the game's high standards.
>>578235402ignore the attentionwhore threadpest
>>578235427good baitis that ansbach incant any good
>>578235402Is cupcake our cutest slopper?
>>578235314I want to kek
>>578235510delete this image for us please
>>578235882okay
>>578235937ty
>>578173331>The onboarding tutorials and making sure players understand how the game works and how to succeed in the game is something we've historically not been super great at conveying instantly," Miyazaki said. "We've definitely just dropped players in and hoped they would figure it out. In this case, Nintendo is definitely the right partner for better conveying that information in a way that is understandable to the player; it definitely suits their strengths
I want to zork
>>578235510It makes people panic if they haven't seen it before, and it's a decent finisher if they already have 75% of their bleed bar filled up. the main use cases for it are situations where you need to change direction rapidly or close distance. i've used it to ambush around corners a few times, and outspace charged attacks, it's not bad. it is chargeable, so it scales with godfrey talisman. downside is no hyperarmor, you wil get interrupted out of every part of the animation if you get hit, and it can be tricky to use freeaimed. i'll post more clips if i get any worth using, bleed infused milady, great katana, and swarm of flies are what i use the most on this build.
>>578235937Trekucks OUT
>>578237174no
>>578237084pog
>>578210328There's nothing indicating that he is, he simply wants to protect his sister. Ofcourse you wouldn't know this because you haven't even played this game now did you
>>578234070More like only slopperSome of our wylders keep the red balancer relic on, no one uses both on erg besides the occasional great shield chungi
Do you need 2x res down + 1x sleep on hit to get the 1hit sleep proc on executor at level 15?
>>578237940yes
>>578237819isaac, zigger, fox, extremist and cupcake use double balancers as well, plus slopping is L2 spam, so even with 1 balancer relic you can be slopping
>there's unironically a fagbloods generalahahahaha expecting this shit to die in a week
>>578237974Unfortuanetly I don't have that on the goblet colors you need for balancer +signboard + augur
>>578238023how can there be a general for a game that isn't even out
>>578238023we don't think about you at all
>>578237342geg
>>578238023we keep thinking about you all the time
>>578213093Demoralized cuck post
>>578237342>makes the claim>dodges the questionThought so
>>578230248Hi
>>578238381Post your nightreign hours
>>578224664you forgot the one taking the screenshot
The rescues from my last 10 games. Counting down from 10.It gets to a point...
>>578238617Couldn't tell who that was. Shifty? I consider her an S tier outside of gaol griefing
>>578212327>>578238357>When the rightoids are so far gone, they start complaining about lack of representation, just like the leftoids.Did you forget Fromsoft is a Japanese studio? You should be glad they included white people at all.
Gaols aren't griefing, its not my fault that erg doesn't appreciate their value
>>578238596>deflectionYou’ve lost. Don’t waste my time again.
>>578237342You would follow it up with “now have you” pranjeet
I have 200 nightreign hours bow before me plebes
>>578238865How dare you go against the group. Don't you know, you have to do whatever the most belligerent asshole on /erg/ tells you to do?
>>578238687It was sludge>Shifty S tierShifty is C-hungus tier
>>578238687him* permant A* tierAnd I thought it was someone else
>>578238920What's wrong? Don't wanna post your nightreign hours? Probably because as I guess you literally don't play this game
>>578238853>a bunch of brown aristocrats in victorian europename one reason for this except muh representation
Massive Automaton interview with Miyazaki, touched upon things not mentioned in the IGN interview. Worth a read. I highlighted a few bits below:https://automaton-media.com/en/interviews/fromsoftwares-the-duskbloods-isnt-the-pvpve-youre-probably-imagining-miyazaki-talks-game-design/- Project began before ER Nightreign- You obtain story fragments and special lines of dialogue through the "role" system- Talking to NPCs in the game's hub advances the story- Storytelling also through item descriptions- You can customise character appearances through things such as masks and tattoos- Character customisation not only abilities and appearance, but also things such as the characters "fate and destiny"- No guided routing on maps - designed around repeated play and freedom in approach- Single player mode available but minimal - includes: practice sessions, character customisation and simulated 8 player battles.- Will have a ranked mode, leaderboards and a seasonal system- Multiple story endings- Miyazaki has been playing Culdcept recently and mahjong ... for research lol- The game is designed to offer many different ways to have fun- The gradual progression for new players should be to first enjoy the story, and gradually become capable of winning in the process and eventually win more- They intend to frequently update the game - balancing and expanding the content- The full release will include complicated roles, once players are able to understand the role system and more complex rules, it will allow the devs to do more things with it as it's an expandable system.
>>578238853You’re making it too obvious put more meat on the bone next time
>>578224664>>578238617>>578238687>>578239053Belan was in the so called "disasterkino" Caligo game.Sludge was in the total disaster Maris game.
I would have carried with my guardian
>>578239047It's moreso that gaols are a total waste of everyone's times and usually annoying as shit even when you're sufficiently leveled. Less to do with some grand conspiracy where you have to follow some secret rules.
>>578239182The style is only inspired by victorian europe, but it's not victorian europe. They included browns because they wanted to. Simple as that. The fact remains that they're a Japanese studio, and thus don't owe you white representation.Fromsoft games have always mixed cultures btw. There was never a purely European Souls-like. And there never will be.
>>578239523>>578238853you angered the chuds here well done keep it up
>>578239619I owned the chuds
>>578239430ergies being belligerent assholes who demand that you follow their meta, is not a grand conspiracy. It's just facts.It's not all of course. Probably only like 2, perhaps 3 people. But they're annoying enough to sound like a lot more.
>>578239216you should probably post this in the appropriate thread where people might actually read it
>>578239523they owe pretty much all of their games except sekiro to the west, although they also needed ubisoft's help with sekiro's grapple and qte mechanics. can you name some niggers and poos from previous souls games?
>>578239908>ubisoftactivision*, freudian slip
>>578239908lol, When Demon's Souls came out, there was nothing like it. The west was making FPS slop, and God of War style slop.
>>578239523If this is true why do White studios owe browns and every other race"representation"?
>>578240087you're talking verbatim about style. the game's style is 100% western fantasy and history.
I miss when I could copium-predict Uyghur representation in Elden Ring
>>578182610I believe it because she looks mummified; seems like her abdominal cavity is emptied out as well
>>578240242>If this is true why do White studios owe browns and every other raceThey don't. Save my your whataboutisms. Be principled. If white studios don't owe browns representation. Then Japanese studios don't owe whites representation.
>>578239908>>578240087>lol, When Demon's Souls came out, there was nothing like it. The west was making FPS slop, and God of War style slop.Demon's Souls 2007 prototype presentationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVK_rc-tnGYDemon's Souls Prototype Character - c9999https://youtu.be/7jKWF77Dhn4?si=ZraqNKdm5RV7H88_Unused Tutorialhttps://www.nexusmods.com/demonssouls/mods/65Key points from the content>Presented by Daisuke Ishidate of Japan Studio PD3.>High concept: "In the depths of lone darkness, feel the warmth of life." Solo exploration of dark ruins to recover souls of dead companions, with photorealistic environments, twisted enemies, and gigantic bosses.>Core innovation highlighted early: the ghost/network system. Death scenes of other players appear as reusable guides; dead players continue as phantoms that can be summoned for help and potentially revived. The goal was a single-player action RPG that still feels shared and unique per player ("Game 3.0").>Contrast with pure online MMOs (too time-consuming/group-dependent) and pure offline RPGs (more linear/story-following).Also, we can see in this presentation that the meat of the multiplayer was already in place before Miyazaki joined the project, meaning that Miyazaki's story about being stuck in the snow and helped by strangers wasn't the inspiration for it at all
>>578240401right, just like when ubisoft made a game about japan, and made the protagonist a nigger. the japanese were completely fine with this.
>>578240513>meaning that Miyazaki's story about being stuck in the snow and helped by strangers wasn't the inspiration for it at allI can’t believe a business executive would lie to me
>>578240313>you're talking verbatim about styleI am? No wait. No I'm not. But if I were, you would lose that argument too. Just look at how Bluepoint, a western studio, remastered Demon's Souls. Stylistic design philosophies between the east and the west differ greatly. It wasn't the west that gave Fromsoft the essence of their style.
>>578240401It’s not a “whataboutism” I’m just trying to understand your thought process here. I mean it would be pretty weird if I created a video game modeled after Sengoku Japan and not included any Japanese people so I don’t think that logic holds up on its own even but I agree with the base statement on the plainest level. Shame that’s not what’s put into practice.
>>578240559Yes, many Japanese were completely fight. Some weren't. Which Japanese person you regard should be based on a principle. What do your principles say?
>>578182610>literally just skin and bones>kek must be a tranny
>>578240778bluepoint is a bunch of spics and other diversity hires. but good job stretching your brain to its limit trying to claim that souls isn't western fantasy style.
Weird deer
>>578239182Who in Duskbloods is brown? There's a bing-bong chick (honorary white unless they're from Cambodia or some shit) a guy named Samir, which is an Arab name, but he's clearly white and has a medieval French last name, and then a bunch of white characters. Zork is probably not human, so race is irrelevant. This looks to be a pretty brown-free game. Also, assuming you're from North America or Europe, you've got your own brown problem to deal with, should probably get your own house in order before going after the Japanese.
>>578240940>already fucking up his sentencesi see you're already rattled by cognitive dissonance. that was quick. there was massive backlash from japan for grossly misappropriating their culture.
japs are benchhod
>>578240778Are you creasy? Just curious
>>578241113no one minds the vietcong. the rest of the women are brown.
>>578240947>bluepoint is a bunch of spics Spics are probably more dedicated weebs than whites are.But that's besides the point. The matter isn't truly Japanese design versus white designs. It's Japanese designs versus non-Japanese designs. The other people could be from any background that isn't Japanese, and they would still make a good example. There is 1 and only 1 western studio that managed to replicate a decent anime art style. And that's the people who made Avatar the Last Airbender. Nobody else can replicate anime, because it requires learning from an entirely different school of knowledge, and growing up within an entirely different culture. The Japanese perspective is why the soul likes all feel different than every other european fantasy world.
>>578241235Yeah why?
the terrbloods
>>578241513>b-bluepoint is western>w-well spics are a bunch of weebsway to instantly contradict yourself retard. not reading the rest of your reddit diatribe.
quelaag live
>>578240879>it would be pretty weird if I created a video game modeled after Sengoku Japan and not included any Japanese peopleIt would be a little weird, only because of how different it is. But it being weird doesn't mean it's wrong. If you really want to live out your wapanese fantasies, then who is to say you can't? I mean... It worked for Robert Jordan. Pic related. That's a blue eyed white devil in full samurai gear.
>>578241634Your posts align with the same conversation we had months back along with other stances you’ve revealed yourself to hold since. Good to know even if I don’t agree.
>>578241173>there was massive backlash from japan for grossly misappropriating their culture.How massive?From what I saw, most people weren't mad that Yasuke existed as a samurai. Only that he took the main character role. If a Japanese man was the main character, and Yasuke was his side kick, I bet most people wouldn't care at all.
>>578241897>it being weird doesn't mean it's wronggood luck convincing all the japs who were mad about asscreed black fag. if they made black panther a white afrikaaner i'm sure you'd be defending that too, right?
i see u 2/3
>>578241928That wasn't even me replying. You've been duped.Though to answer your question: yes it is me.>Your posts align with the same conversation we had months backWhich one?>along with other stances you’ve revealed yourself to hold sinceWhat stances?Please answer my questions honestly. It sounds like you're about to dig yourself into a ditch. This is potentially entertaining.
Q'd 1/3
>>578241895>woke leftist cuntlol no
>>578241113>honorary whiteNo. Otherwise I mostly agree. I don’t think that situation exempts them criticism though.
>>578241895>woke leftGODlol yes
>>578242354>if they made black panther a white afrikaaner i'm sure you'd be defending that too, right?I would call it stupid. But I would defend the artist's right to be stupid.
>>578242464welcome to hell my man
>>578241513Not weighing in either way but >There is 1 and only 1 western studio that managed to replicate a decent anime art styleNot really. The French also managed to do the same with Wakfu. Solid stylistic incorporation mixed in with their touch. >soul likes all feel different than every other european fantasy world.But they don’t. This is ultimately a subjective matter but it feels pretty quintessentially fantasy/western to me. Not sure what possessed you to say this or why but it’s certainly not universally true for everyone like you imply it to be.
>>578241113>clearly white>is brown and called Samirkek
>>578241897It would be very weird. And let’s be honest, it almost certainly wouldn’t blow over well with certain audiences. Samurai gear is also pretty different from a ‘samurai setting’ and that book is fairly old too but thats neither here or there.
>>578242095it was everywhere, to the point of exposing thomas lockley, the original propagator of the yasuke narrative, as a fraud who just made shit up. yasuke was nobunaga's luggage carrier and asswiper, given the title samurai kind of like how you throw a birthday for your dog. he wasn't a warrior in the slightest.
>>578242437I figured as much. I don’t know why you’re being so defensive and hostile. This weird passive aggressive thing you do is why people clock you so good dude. I’m not getting into anything with you again so don’t get excited. It’s just funny to know who’s been behind these posts looking back on it.
>>578242878Phoenician White please saar
>>578242601yeah and people are calling this stupid, stupid. you hold a double standard because this offends your reddit sensibilities.
>>578241173Curbstomped that bad faith cuck, well done.
bros am i blocked its been 2/3 twice in 30mins
>>578243303possible that one of TheTrannies has you bloq'd
>>578229819holy nightmare game from hellpoor creasy
I miss Madison...
>>578242660>The French also managed to do the same with WakfuNah, you can tell it's western from a mile away. Wakfu is cartoon, not anime. Though, I will say they did a decent job at coming up somewhere in the middle. Wakfu has similarities to anime that mimic a western style. Like Panty and Stocking. Or those older generation anime that mimicked older cartoons. Like atroboy era anime.So yeah, I'll give Wakfu half credit.>This is ultimately a subjective matterTrue to an extent. It's subjective because it's based on perception. But just because you can't see it, that doesn't mean it isn't the case. It just means that you don't know what to look for. Here, I'll give you an example: One of the key elements where western and Japanese design differ, is how they shape the limbs of characters. Westerners tend to prefer exaggerating the size of hands and feet. Along with forearms and calves. While Japanese tend to prefer hands and feet to taper off. This is why every western game has enemies with lumbering arms that sway back and forth exaggeratedly. Fromsoft avoids this lumbering arm design for the most part. With some exceptions of course.(they've designed thousands of creatures, I'm sure you can pull a few examples)Even characters like the stray demon, who had lumbering arms to begin with, was buffed to have even bigger hands, and additional manacles to make his forearms look even bigger.Another example is in body language. The way Japanese body actors move, is very different the way western ones do. Look closely at the Knight in the opening of Demon's Souls. The mocap reads like a little asian man moving around like he's in a super sentai production. The way he swings his sword. That little exasperated jostle he does after being hit.Even the gestures in the game. When the player fails to use a spell and does that little head scratch. A very Japanese gesture.
>>578229973shut up Dust
>>578229819Leftists are so lame and weak and dont have the fortitude to clutch runs I see.
>>578243941Shut it silly troonie
>>578244141There is literally nothing wrong with being trans
>>578240559>>578240940>>578241173>>578242095>>578243045It's okay when Japan does it tho
>>578244258erg tgirls are based and beautiful
trishtina...
>>578243941>ignore the obvious medieval european fantasy setting! >look at the height of the mocap actor and the extremities of the eldritch creatures!really nigger?>>578244290it literally is since it's their culture to depict.
>>578244290Netflix Sir Alonne
>>578242913The very foundation of the story is based on the cycle of death and rebirth and the yin yang. The author explicitly states he takes inspiration from eastern culture. He's done interviews. It's no secret.The guy on the cover comes from a top not wearing samurai-esque culture. Though they don't use the term "samurai". And the author mixes things up a little. But that's the impression that it gives. Yet, the character is absolutely white. The way he's described, and the author, before he died, did his own fantasy casting, for a hypothetical live action version. And he chose a white man to play that character.>it almost certainly wouldn’t blow over well with certain audiencesWho cares? Why are we basing our principles on what's right or wrong, on whether or not modern day culture warriors would find it offensive? The question should be whether or not the book is good. In my opinion, it is.
Reminder gael is still the best souls boss and has the best line of dialogue across all games.>What, still here?Three simple words that carry so much weight and meaning. Sad they never managed to top it.
>>578243941>Nah, you can tell it's western from a mile away. Wakfu is cartoon, not anime.Obviously. I literally say as much. It’s not fully anime but it overtly takes cues from it while still being its own thing. >the rest of thatCool details but my point still stands, it still feels very much like a quintessentially western and European setting and story and this is clearly the case for many other people as well, if not most. Your example is talking about the meta level of game design and direction choices but I’m talking about the way the game is presented and portrayed (and you admit it isn’t absolute either). It’s very familiar to anyone who’s spent even a decent amount of time with the fantasy genre (as most in the West and even beyond it have) and numerous conventions found in it are present, even if it does do some stuff different here and there. Anyway I was just making that point so this is my last post on the matter so respond or don’t.
>Japan invented le funny head-scratching cartoon gestures You wish.
>>578243097Let's verify if you actually clocked me though. Point to a post that you suspect is mine, and I'll answer truthfully if it is. If anything, I've never outright lied about my identity in the thread. I've ignored a few inquires here and there. But never lied.
>>578244868Miyazaki stole his name off my dex build
>>578245207>>578245207>>578245207
>>578244865>Why are we basing our principles on what's right or wrongthat's how you framed it, retard. it's based on people's reception of someone warping another culture, and you yourself said that you'd ridicule the whitewashing of black panther (a character created by whites no less)
>>578229819I have to admit, I didn't expect creasy to get that many revives.
>>578233823Dsjeet/ will rise from the dead before that
>>578245330He is a hero among ergs
>>578239523>these games incorporated elements of other things so that changes the fact that earlier titles were clearly modeled overwhelmingly based on western fantasy and European settings and cultures talk about dishonest
>>578245756>yellow fever sperg that can't adapt Said no one ever
>>578244629Style is not subject matter alone, it's HOW you portray subject matter. When a white person appears in an anime, he still looks like an anime character. The mere fact that he's white, doesn't mean his of a western style.>>578244927>it still feels very much like a quintessentially western and European setting What does that even mean? How can it feel western, but you can't articulate what the western feel is? I can articulate what the Japanese feel is.>It’s very familiar to anyone who’s spent even a decent amount of time with the fantasy genre What other game would you compare to Demon's Souls then? I need tangible examples. Give me games that came out prior to the era where people copied Fromsoft's design.
>>578239108>further ESL turd world floundering and deflectionEmbarrassing.
>>578244865Ok. I’m not disputing or taking issue with any of that. But that book is from the 90s. Let’s not pretend the same stuff would fly today unnoticed and unbothered. >Why are we basing our principles on what's right or wrongI’m saying the playing field isn’t even and a person likely couldn’t even do something like that anymore without risking career suicide, which isn’t something that can you exactly shrug your shoulders at and say “who cares” when you’re in that position. Ironically, they’d do exactly what you said you’d do and call it “stupid”, just more extremely.
>>578244290this but unironically
Thread is over guys the greasy humiliation ritual can stop now
>>578245938whose ergie heart shines bolder than his
>>578245954Demon's and Dark Souls, in terms of style and tone, are an amalgam of LoTR (movie trilogy and its games), TES, Excalibur, Ladyhawk, Conan, etc. and those are just some that clearly influenced Berserk, which we know greatly influenced DeS/DS
>>578245321>that's how you framed itNo I didn't.>it's based on people's reception of someone warping another cultureHow people feel about a thing, does not necessarily make it right or wrong. Just because you FEEL like something shouldn't be, that doesn't mean you can stop it from being. Like actionably speaking. You can't force an artist's hand to create what you want them to create. You're allowed to pout about it, as is your right to express yourself.I don't know why you're even arguing with me about that. You probably don't even disagree. I'm not even sure why we are at conflict.>you yourself said that you'd ridicule the whitewashing of black pantherNot because it's wrong. But because it doesn't make sense to the character. It's kind of his whole thing to be a black man. But if you really wanted to do a deconstruction of his character, and reframe it in the context of him being white, then I'm not going to say you *can't* do that. I'm just going to say you're dumb for doing it.
>>578246058I'm not seeing any hours being posted
>>578246773Kekeroni
zork made the sissies a bit too excited
>>578243960Keep talking Dustqween
>>578245896I said Duskbloods style is inspired by victorian europe. And extrapolating for the other games, I would say the souls games are inspired by European fantasy. Nobody is saying that it isn't inspired by it. But being inspired by the subject matter of europe, doesn't mean you have the same style as europe.
>They included browns because they wanted tooh I'm laffin
>>578246098>I’m saying the playing field isn’t evenok. But with social matters, the playing field is never even. Someone is already getting the the bad end of a deal. Which is why upholding principles is important. You can't be so changeable that you change your stance based on whether you're at a disadvantage or not. How does crying about brown characters in Fromsoft games solve the problem of forced representation in other media?
>>578246964jesus dude you’re either wholesale pivoting your argument or don’t even realize you’re getting your talking points and conversations mixed up
>>578246225I like seeing this overly verbose faggot get pummeled though
bamn i forgot the bonfires in code vein are called mistle...
>>578247253As I said, it’s not purely a social matter but one potentially concerning a persons livelihood. It’s easy for you to sit there and say “just stick to ur guns bro” when there’s no risk to yourself but you can’t pretend the two situations would receive proportionate backlash or be equally salvageable/as equally open to criticism, that’s my main point >FromSoft gamesI didn’t do or say that so don’t bring it up to me or ask
mistle it down
>>578246339>Demon's and Dark Souls, in terms of style and tone, are an amalgam of LoTR (movie trilogy and its games), TES, Excalibur, Ladyhawk, Conan, etc.While I can see some similarities here. I don't think that they're so similar that you can claim Demon's Souls owes everything to the west. Every artist is inspired by what came before them, and those inspirations are reflected in the works. So yeah, if we went point by point, I'm sure we can find a lot of similarities here. And yet, the souls games still have a unique air about them that distinguishes themselves from the rest. Nobody would dare call Fromsoft games "generic". In fact, when Demon's Souls came out. Every critic called it new, unique, and refreshing. Just go look up the blurbs on meta critic.https://www.metacritic.com/game/demons-souls-2009/critic-reviews?platform=playstation-3&sort-by=Recently+AddedBut you look at say Baldur's Gate 3 for example, and it's just generic Dungeons and Dragons, but a little gayer. Look The Wticher. It's just Dungeons and Dragons again. Fable? Dungeons and Dragons with British humor. What sets the Souls games apart, are their Japanese sensibilities infused into their European inspired fantasy, plus their blending of cultures.
>>578247539>or don’t even realize you’re getting your talking points and conversations mixed upA bit of that. I mean... it's all me. :)
>>578246495>no i didn't>next sentence: right or wrongyou did it again. you're strawmanning ridicule of the choice as some kind of moral argument, because bullying the hecking browns offends you, redditor.
>>578248909i know. that’s why I suggested it.
>>578248071I'm not saying the matter would be treated equally. I'm telling you that you're handling the matter inappropriately. You lashing out at browns in Fromsoft games, doesn't help the matter that you want solved. You just want to whine and complain to make yourself feel better.>I didn’t do or say that so don’t bring it up to me or askEven worse. You injected yourself into a conversation about the game, so you can whine about something unrelated to the game.
>>578248601ok witcher and fable are hardly derived from dnd
>>578249087ok. But now that you confirmed you can see that I didn't pivot
>>578249406hence why i said “or”.
>>578249318Trolls, druids, witches, halflings, fae folk, etc. Same, same, same
>>578249270>just stop talking about it here (and everywhere else but i'll just go one by one to hide my intentions)redditroons are so bad at gaslighting. sorry sis but bashing it everywhere is what's making it go away. cope.
I hate druids they are so faggy
>>578249574There is no "or" though. I mixed up the conversations, but because they're both of a kind, the points I made in one conversation are consistent with the points I made in the other and back each other up.
>>578245119That part was really funny yeah
>>578249590I didn't say you *can't* complain about browns in fromsoft games. I just think that you're not doing anyone any favors by doing so. Not even yourself. You've stopped seeking justice for yourself, and you're now seeking to tear others down around you. Even if those people aren't your enemies. If tearing down unrelated people to get what you want sounds like a good idea to you, then I see you no differently than those black rioters who tear down their own communities to "protest" an injustice.
>>578244290Wait so he was a samurai after all???Why did chud seethe so much then?
>>578249763the “or” was there because I wasn’t sure which one was the case. hell, i still don’t actually know if this the case, im just giving you the benefit of the doubt. and no, they don’t, which is why I brought up the point to begin with, because you’re addressing a point that has nothing to do with mine, but i can see pursuing this is a waste of time when you’re being obtuse and playing word games.
>>578249580that is just all local folklore stuff in each of the previous examples; furthermore which of those tropes in some form are absent from any or all of the miyazaki games be it dragons or giants or undeads or demons
>>578249270It directly relates to the matter being discussed because I’m pointing out there’s a double standard about it that you’re trying to pretend doesn’t exist (and even endorse under the correct context in your own words) by covering your ears and going “so what” effectively while not acknowledging the issue. This is why people get fed up with you dude. Just dishonesty time and time again. I’d love to hear how you think what you’re doing is making a difference.
>>578248601Those reviews are clearly talking about the games itself and not the themes or motifs found within them so yes they would be right to say all of that considering the Souls formula was still in its infancy
>>578250082>i didn't say you can't complain about it, i'm just saying it's morally wrongyou're such a disingenuous slimy low IQ redditcuck it's not even funny.>i'm not gonna say you can't whitewash black panther, i'm just gonna say it's dumb. no you can't do the same thing here.
>>578245119>>578250060They didn't necessarily invent it. But westerners wouldn't use it, because they think it's "cartoony" as you say. It wouldn't fit the mood of the brooding tone that Demon's Souls has. The western mentality can be boiled down to angry box art kirby. And box art mega man.
>>578250195I'm not playing word games. Your point was addressed in the post with the Morrigan image. Need I say more?
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>>578250725you don’t, because I’ve stopped entertaining you due to you tying yourself in pretzels. you brought up some weird image unrelated to your original point (the point I was addressing) and decided that was a ‘gotcha’ somehow. bye.
>>578250294>that is just all local folklore European Fantasy is built around European folklore. LotR is just Tolkien being a well read man, and compiling a bunch of folklore into one big world. Same deal with Dungeons and Dragons.>furthermore which of those tropes in some form are absent from any or all of the miyazaki games be it dragons or giants or undeads or demonsThe games have all of those things. But the difference is style. The Fromsoft style is distinctive from the others.
>>578244290Wasn’t he a side character of a side character?
>>578250327>I’m pointing out there’s a double standard about it that you’re trying to pretend doesn’t existNo I'm not. You're so used to dealing with a certain type of person, that you can't accept the fact that I'm not dismissing the double standard as fake. Stop projecting the stereotypical liberal identity on me for one second, and then what I'm saying will start to make sense to you.
>>578250163He wasn't a warrior, scholar or bureaucratic elite. He was a menial servant. The samurai title was basically given to him in jest, or to protect him from locals. It's fine if Japan wants to glorify him, and at best they make him a miniboss.
>>578250486I think it's a case-by-case basis.
>>578251029>byeI want you to know, I read that in the most flamboyantly homosexual catty voice ever.But no, I didn't tie myself into a pretzel.
>>578251039>they're totally different because fromsoft stylizes them>fable and witcher stylizing them doesn't countyou're such a gargantuan retard
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>>578251789dsr?
>>578250328>the themes or motifsThe concept of your spirit constantly coming back to life is a super eastern theme. In fact, the monumental is literally a buddaist monk. The very foundation of the world in Demon's Souls is based on an Asian concept, and woven directly into the gameplay which makes it so unique. You can't argue this. I've actually gotcha this time.
>>578251952demons souls remake
>>578246314Midvare by virtue of not being a namefag
>>578251736Witcher can barely be said to have a style. It's one of the most derivative western fantasies ever made. But at least Fable can claim it's stylized. Yet the way it styles itself, is by incorporating elements that are typically found in other western entertainment.(quirky monty python style british humor) So while it's also distinctive like Demon's Souls. It's still distinctive in a western way. While Demon's Souls is distinctive in a Japanese way.
>>578252258you've obviously never played the witcher and are talking out of your ass.>demon's soul is le japaneseit's stylized clearly western fantasy.
>>578251984I’m not any of the anons you were talking to previously and no you didn’t get shit because I didn’t mention anything about that and was purely addressing what the reviews were clearly talking about and no the concept of reincarnation or “your spirit coming back to life” is not purely an eastern that’s a thing that’s been found all over the world including the west even if in that case it’s referencing Buddhism
>>578245152It was you. We talked about something similar regarding DS and your style of writing and the attitude you give is prettyunmistakable. Not going to go looking so you'll just have to believe me.
>>578252786A goblin, a dwarf and a gnome. Am I supposed to be impressed by that.>it's stylized clearly western fantasy.That's more or less what I said it was. European fantasy, styalized by Japanese sensibilities. Hence, Fromsoft doesn't owe all of their games to the west. Because they styalized their game in a way that the west had not up to that point.
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>>578252830Westerners do not regard reincarnation as Easterners do. Don't try to pretend it's the same. For Asians, reincarnation and karma are bedrock foundations to their belief systems. Very different than the fatherly Diety that serves as the bedrock of western belief systems. Westerners wouldn't think to frame the soul and body mechanic in the same way that Fromsoft did.>I didn’t mention anything about that Of course. I mentioned it. Why do you think that you need to mention something in order for it to be valid?
>>578253127>t-they're not that stylized>doesn't even correctly identify them as witcheslmao. show me another game with this style you dishonest redditnigger.>japanese sensibilitiesthey're fromsoft sensibilities. no other japanese game looks like soulsborne. they're very blatantly based on european fantasy and history, doubly so for bloodborne and duskbloods.
>>578253439You’re wrong. Vikings and the Germanic people among others both held to a very similar karmic system which states their deeds in life would reflect and influence how they passed on, for Vikings it’s what what we now know as Hamingja and it’s a force that was alive, earned and woven through one’s actions, character and ancestry. If you were more educated on this topic and the field of PIE faith and religion in general you would know they actually stem from a common root that influenced the majority of Eurasia’s spirituality, it doesn’t matter what “westerners would think to do” I’m telling you this is objectively the case. But this is besides my original point so you’ll have to be satisfied with this. >Why do you think that you need to mention something in order for it to be validBecause then you’re bringing up something that has nothing to do with with my post? Are you stupid?
It's pretty pathetic how one-shot greasetard got by asian soft-power. That's what happens when you're demoralized and rootless.
>>578253752ok, Witcher has more style than I thought. big whoop. Changes absolutely nothing. They still look very westernized in style. Big lumbering arms. Ugly faces with warts and boils. Called "the crones". They're stereotypical western witches, with a bit of flare to them.Though I did recognize there was some magical aspect to them earlier, since the big one has a voodoo doll strapped to her belt.>no other japanese game looks like soulsborneNioh. It was incredibly easier for Nioh to copy Souls, because they share the same Asian sensibilities.Similar to how it was incredibly easy for Genshin to copy Breath of the Wild. Another game inspired by Europe, but with Asian sensibilities.
>>578247253>how does talking about forced representation solve forced representationDumbass
>>578254349you can’t expect any better from libshits they’re easy prey for everyone at this point
>>578254362they're child-eating eastern european witches designed in witcher's distinct style, so not dnd at all. yet souls lifting all its shit from dnd and european architecture, history and fucking alchemy doesn't count. nioh doesn't look like souls, it has its own style reminiscent of ninja gaiden. genshin is straight up anime, souls is absolutely not.
>>578254182>Because then you’re bringing up something that has nothing to do with with my post?But it has everything to do with your post. Which is why I thought to bring it up. Are YOU stupid?>HamingjaThat's interesting. But glancing at google results(hey, I'm pressed for time here, the thread is dying) it appears that this isn't about reincarnation, but inheritance. While the concept is similar, it's different. It's also not found in any western fantasies I can think of. Which western fantasy actually incorporates this concept as a key element of the narrative?We can see that Fromsoft used reincarnation from eastern teachings, because the eastern influence is directly inside of the game.If you're going to say that fromsoft owes their work entirely to the west, then you have to prove that the west actually used fromsoft's themes and motifs. Pulling an old dead concept from long ago, doesn't prove that. Not in the face of the overt eastern imagery in the game.
>>578254409It's not forced representation when fromsoft does it. They're just built different.
>>578254701Child eating is a witch stereotype. And the fact that I confused them for a goblin, dwarf, and gnome goes to show that their style is not so different than the others. Like I said, they have *some* flair that I didn't give them credit for before, but it's still not hugely distinctive.>yet souls lifting all its shit from dnd and european architectureThere is a ton of non-european architecture in the souls games, you should look it up some time. I mean, just look at Izalith. People made videos about this stuff. Watching those is probably better than relying on me to pull from memory.
>>578254892>But it has everything to do with your postIt LITERALLY doesn’t. I said plainly and clearly here >>578252830 I’m talking about the reviews talking about the game itself, NOT the themes and motifs or anything else found within it. Jesus Christ dude slow down and read. >similarThat’s what I said yes. Of course the two evolved their differences over time. And no, it did incorporate inheritance but also the fate of your soul and even if you were eligible to ‘reincarnate’. >the rest Not engaging with the rest of that, not claiming that this is some common theme or focal point used in western fiction a lot, though you could certainly find examples, my sole point that I’m making, other than the pretty obvious review one) is addressing your claim that it’s an “Asian concept” (I will concede it’s definitely associated it with them the most in contemporary times) that even if that particular instance of it is clearly Buddhist inspired, reincarnation and karmic systems are not something unique to the East or their religions and in fact even had their beginnings from ‘the West’, or, more accurately, the predecessors of the people who now inhabit it. That’s it.
>>578254701Oh also, Ninja Gaiden and Souls share design sensibilities. I was actually thinking about bringing that up myself earlier, but figured it was a bit too much to get into.
>>578255435>witch stereotypeand all of souls is stylized stereotypes and tropes, almost entirely form western fantasy and history. you can't find me a single game with witcher's style, not even the creatures you confused them for.>a tona handful. thanks for posting lost izalith btw, reminded me of all the fucking world trees in these games that are clearly western.
>>578255749You said "Those reviews are clearly talking about the games itself and not the themes or motifs found within"So I provided a theme that the game reviewers would be talking about. BECAUSE that theme is woven into the gameplay. They don't need to talk about the theme directly, they can talk about the gameplay, and indirectly be referring to the theme that the gameplay is based on.Come on, man. Put 2 and 2 together.
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>>578255837>Ninja Gaiden and Souls share design sensibilitiesno one would ever confused ng for souls. or nioh for souls. are you fucking blind? is that why you're so shit at these games?
>>578256024ergs...
>>578256015Nah, both I and they were both clearly talking about the gameplay and mechanics and not that they were surprised to find a Buddhist monk in a fantasy game, unless you can find reviews stating that it’s just your wishful thinking/conjecture
>>578256129Again, subject matter is not the same as style. The mere fact that ninja gaiden has scantily clad characters is subject matter. But the way the scantily clad figures are drawn and rendered is the style. And that style shares similarities with Souls.If Japanese people draw European people in an anime style, would you then try to assert that the anime style is western? No, that's absurd. It's clearly just inspired by Europeans but drawn with Japanese sensibilities in mind. Ninja Gaiden and Souls both have similar Japanese sensibilities in design, even if their subject matter doesn't match 1:1
>>578256512Don't post kino here
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>>578256015>theme woven into the gameplayand if we cut past all your equivocating niggerbabble, the point is that souls and duskbloods are clearly overwhelmingly western styled to the point that prominent browns are way out of place. just like the white black panther that you said you would ridicule.
>>578256262Yeah, you're not getting what I'm saying at all. I'm not claiming the reviews are commenting on the themes. I'm saying that even the gameplay is based on the themes. So by calling the gameplay unique and refreshing, they are *indirectly* calling the theme unique and refreshing.
>>578256650>overwhelmingly western styledNo. It's western influenced, but Japanese in style.
>>578256512>that style shares similaritiesno it fucking doesn't. it's completely distinct from fromsoft style. only the blindest retard would confuse anything from ng or nioh for sekiro, let alone souls.
>>578256706Again, that’s just your conjecture/wishful thinking, since we don’t even know if they’re referring to that in particular or just the combat or the map design or any other number of things.
>>578256803such a distinctly japanese city. obviously we should expect a bunch of brown people here.
>>578257110L O N D O NO N DON
>>578256860pfft, bro tried posting Godfrey as if we wouldn't notice.You can tell that's a Japanese game by the very way he holds his sword. Remember what I said about body acting?
>>578257110saar this is just looking like the mumbai i living in the clock!!!!
>>578257178uh are you blind? this is clearly japan. just looking at it i can hear the YOOOOOOOOO
>>578257276Glorious nippon invented this, and it's good we are disappearing, chuddie
>>578257368eeerm...
>>578257368a little on the nose creasy
>>578256860>>578257189Also, that design is reminiscent of Senator Armstrong, and mutated Niel from Resident Evil, Revelations 2.Also remember what I said about limbs tapering? A western equivalent character like that would have huge hands.
>>578257189>no, see, i'm very well versed in the subtleties of style>this looks JUST like elden ring
>>578257082>Again, that’s just your conjecture/wishful thinkingNo it's not. Everyone noted how unique the body/soul mechanic was. Even the haters. You're simply wrong about this.
>>578257552I'm glad you finally understand.
>>578257490yeah when you claim every big muscular guy looks the same i can see how you wouldn't be able to tell styles apart you retarded fucking nigger.
>>578257490Me when I've gooned for too long
>>578257584Lol. Show me your definition of “everyone” please.
>>578257815I only pulled big guys from Japanese games. Of course the western big guys look nothing like the guys I pulled. You can go ahead and try to look for one. But you won't find it.
>>578257894You had to be there. Most of the review links on meta critic are dead. So you just had to be cognizant of Demon's Souls back then.Even without quotes from critics, we can still use our own brains to identify the fact that the mechanic is unique.
>>578257725>they're both wearing samurai armor so they look le sameyou are either the most dishonest or most retarded redditnigger of all time. protip: no honest or sane person would ever confuse this for a souls boss.
>>578258217Sorry, I didn't mean to give you the impression that I was comparing your guy to sir alonne. I was just posting that image randomly to illustrated that Japanese culture permeates throughout these games.
>>578258149How convenient. Do you see why I find that hard to believe? Especially when the mechanic isn’t even *that* ‘unique’ to begin with? I’m going to err on the side of caution and say they meant the dozen other more apparent things that people commonly still take in and appreciate
>>578258217>no honest or sane person would ever confuse this for a souls boss.That's because you're still caught up on subject matter, and not seeing through to style. If you handed this character's concept art to Fromsoft's design team, they will render a very similar model. If you handed the same concept to a Bluepoint, they would westernize it.
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>>578257970you pulled big guys that look nothing alike, and posted one that no one would confuse for a souls enemy, just like the red demon.>>578258576>if you gave it to fromsoft, they would change it to fromsoft stylecheckmate. thanks for proving my point dumbfuck.
>>578258329There is being prudent, and then there is... whatever you're doing. It's a very safe bet to assume that most people found the soul and body system remarkable and different from everything else they played before them. Hate it or love it, it was different. I would insist that you use your own head for this, but you're already downplaying how unique of a mechanic it is. Which is really petty.
>>578258860It’s not that unique. You going on and on about it won’t make it so. That’s not a safe bet at all, that’s you framing your wishful thinking/conjecture as reality with no evidence other than your own word and personal fascination with it to back it up. You’re not going to convince me without something more concrete buddy.
>you pulled big guys that look nothing alikeBut they do.>>578258679>>if you gave it to fromsoft, they would change it to fromsoft styleDishonest reframing of what I actually said. I used the word "similar", and you took that small non-zero gap and widened it to make it sound like their styles are super dissimilar
>>578259171they are super dissimilar you retarded faggot. you already proved that you don't actually play these games or even know what they look like with the witcher comment, and now you're doubling down. you just spew shit from your ass and then try to rationalize it post hoc when proven wrong.
>>578256563fellow ‘taliaGOD
>>578259337I've played Resident Evil 2, Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2, Elden Ring, and watched a playthrough of Revengeance. So I'm actually familiar with all of those things.I can have played all Japanese games. But being that I'm familiar with Japanese design philosophy(to an extent), I can spot the similar traits. So I'm confident to speak on Japanese games I haven't played, since they almost all share the same design philosophy.When you have a eye for it, you can just spot it. It's kind of like a white person who paints their face brown, still looks white, and a black person who paints their face white still looks black. You can take inspirations, but you can't change the essence of the culture that shaped you.
>>578259337>>578259027>>578258329you dismantled that freak thoroughly can’t even lie
>>578259738>>578259337>Resident Evil 2I meant Revelations 2.
>>578259738>i've playedthen you're just fucking blind or disingenuous.
also since you love the animation copium so much the games are even more blatantly different in motion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_QIRD0JwzI
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>>578259738>since they almost all share the same design philosophy.This is a mammoth of a claim I’m almost sure you aren’t prepared to prove outside of like the most basic surface level similarities but I’d like to see you try
>>578260248im scared
>>578260109This one's a bit hard to see what's going on although that's also very distinct from Souls games. Here's a clearer videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6VF-SH1jPU
Team Ninja and Capcom's animations take a fat shit on fromsoft's animations, I mean shit, they're still using animations from the DS1 days
>>578260587capcom animations were good before the full blown mocap. mhw's attacks are dogshit compared to generations.
>>578259027Here, I found a review from 2009. From the wheel of time community no less.https://dragonmount.com/forums/topic/40445-ps3-demons-souls-it-will-steal-your-soul/>Guys like me that have been into gaming since before there were even graphics to bitch about have often hopped on our high horse and proclaimed today's games to be so coddling and hand-holding that one can't possibly get the same sense of accomplishment as the experiences in the days of yore. It's a bunch of old man chest thumping (for the most part), of course, but games going back even to the days of the NES often lacked the ability to save progress or even continue if you burned through all your lives. Demon's Souls isn't quite that hardcore, but it is a wonderfully unique experience that delivers a risk/reward setup that most games couldn't even dream of trying to match. The takeway there, is that he calls the risk/reward system "unique". That would be referring to losing and retrieving your souls.And notice how he frames it as a style of gameplay that was lost back in the day, come back again. It was DIFFERENT for that time in 2009.He goes on to state:>There's no bank, no second chances, no way to put off the inevitable. You will die in this game. When in this soulless form, you'll be permanently stripped of a chunk of your life meter. You will lose all of your cash, and you will hate that every once in a while it's because you got pushed (okay, you accidentally rolled) off a cliff. But you'll keep coming back because the game is quite simply one of the best on the PlayStation 3. Those two main themes might seem at odds with each other. How can someone who has been cut down hundreds of times, been attacked by an ultra-powerful strike from an enemy he didn't even see coming, ganged up on by four or five guys that could by themselves probably end a game, how can they possibly call this a must-have experience?He describes the gameplay of body revival as a "theme"
