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Shiv Edition
>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/708906085669405228

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>578189182 (Cross-thread)
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Matchmaking is king.
As in it decides how the matches go, not you.
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Silver is still S tier.
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>>578272432
retarded monkey that never tries to use teamwork in a game designed around teamwork detected
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>>578272480
As well as shiv and seven. Abrams is A tier
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>>578272805
Abrams must be an absolute beast in high rank, because in pigeon I take on 3 guys at the same time for like a whole minute while my team idly smacks cyclop aliens next to the fight.
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>it's been the worst matchmaking EVER this patch you guys
>my proof? i lost all my retarded slot machine brick matches where i'm still somehow too incompetent to influence wins
>usually because i'm busy paying more attention to my team than my own self or even the fucking enemies
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So Slork is gonna be this game's "Shitty Wizard"?
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>>578273046
nah valve would be stupid to not make slork real the name is too good
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>Keep telling myself one of these days I'm going to comm all day and bee myself
>Never do
At least I'm still winning so there's not much of a reason to use my mic
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draft fucking WHEN
I'm so fucking tired of the game giving us ZERO m1 carries while the enemy gets two
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>>578273038
Its definitely not perfect, but at the same time there has been a marginal improvement in ranked at least
Standard is a shitshow though
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I haven't played in nearly a year
How fucked am I for the next x matches?
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never seen a good post with an ivy image attached to it
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>>578273146
tfw ranked, standards, and street brawl have cut OCE into thirds
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>>578273201
Use a VPN to shitup america or don't play the game at all
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>>578273195
feeling attacked, bricklow shitter?
Seriously it's absurdly telling how mmr complaint posts are ALWAYS "my team let me down" and their idea of fixing it is ALWAYS "i deserve better teammates"
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>>578273281
>trying to confirm on higher ping
pass
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>>578273348
didn't read it past the few couple words then filtered the image
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>>578273415
Looking forward to you proving my point again with your next whinepost :^)
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Why is Silver's ult so cucked? They buy disarm and you literally can't play the game. They curse you and you're sitting duck to be fed to them. Doesn't matter if you have a dispell because haha, they'll just hit you with another one right after. Silver ult is feast or famine, you're either slaughtering or being slaughtered. There aren't any other ults like it in the game that are so completely useless when activated. At the very least those ults will still be going off (eg: Haze ult still shooting/dealing damage even when hit with items)
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>>578272626
Anon you have no agency on if you can try teamwork in solo queue, your team has to agree to it (they wont)
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>>578273038
>dude just 1v5 bro
>like dude come on it doesn't matter if 3 of your teammates are 0-10-2 and refuse to group up for a single objective all game, just kill the enemies bro, just do it
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>opens scoreboard to show its not me its my teammates
>look look im (wraith) going 9 and 2 and 10 and my stupid fucking Graves (who's taken two walkers but is going 0 5 and 5) is throwing look LOOK its not me! my kda is positive! look at my stupid fucking graves
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>>578271457
damage cd is 4 sec and stone form is 3 sec. if you can't land your shots, bot slowing hex and knockdown destroy her ult with no countrr other than remover
if you're not retarded you can even time your bursts to hit ivy as soon as stone ends, and rip half her HP
it's crazy how mongols will call this OP, while cube can be used on allies and dismissed at will.
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>>578274156
>see? see? matchmaking fucked me AGAIN you guys
>literally the only thing that goes into matchmaking is how good the people on MY TEAM are in this 6v6 game
>everyone knows that's all that matters, MY TEAM, and not the OTHER TEAM or ME
>MY TEAM goes 0-10-2 in EVERY GAME that's why matchmaking is so bad, this happens to EVERYONE so that means it's matchmaking's fault (even though it's statistically impossible it just happens ok)
>no i don't have anything to say about the other team ever just trust me it's all bad matchmaking
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>>578274689
What are you even trying to say man, spit it out you stupid frogposter
>Matchmaking is RNG
>have poor luck
>RNG favors enemy team more often than not
Shrimple as
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>dynamo rushes cheat death instead of refresher
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>still ends up with double the deaths of anyone else
HOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>578275115
This doesn't happen over a long enough time though, bricks settle at the rank they deserve
>What are you even trying to say man
Just the obvious. Matchmaking whiners are all worthless bricklow shitters incapable of self-reflection or improvement, and they use mm as a scapegoat so they can complain about their team, and there has never been an honest post complaining about matchmaking (which is doubly funny because sometimes they even think they're offering serious critique)
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When the big jungle rework comes out should they add pulling/stacking/proxying?

The jungle feels so static right now and all you can do with troopers is shoot them it's so boring.
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>>578275515
no, I hated all of that shit when I played dota, made this little bit of map added for extra farm feel like a chore instead
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why can wraith go to our walker with her lane at her base and 100-0 it in 5 seconds
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>>578275689
based woman respecter
no means no
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>>578275496
>This doesn't happen over a long enough time though, bricks settle at the rank they deserve
Define long time
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>>578275839
however much you've played
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I play standard when I want to feed and chill and man the player quality is everywhere
you have people who play like they're new to the game, insane sweats who are trying to unlock the latest broken hero (vyper btw) and people who just don't know what they're doing or trolling, like me
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you will settle at the rank you deserve :)
demotion shields are ok :)
its ok to go up in rank with a 43% winrate :)
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what do I do against Silver as Victor? Just roll over and die?
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>>578276284
Go late, outscale and outfarm her
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>>578275830
Krill would never violate a woman
Mo on the other hand...
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>>578276253
>240 games
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>>578275915
That's not how probability/statistics work lol
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>>578276284
Walk ontop of her, press 3
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>>578276284
Wait for 10 minutes to pass and her to be useless
Also get disarm and she can't do shit
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>>578276253
>it took him getting directly called out to start complaining about an actual issue
Bet you'll still be back to whining about your team tomorrow THOUGH
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>>578276549
>Disarm
You mean his heavy melee?
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>>578274156
Post five games this month where half your team went 0/10.
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You complain about matchmaking because you're a Bricklo permastucker rankedpiggy
I complain about matchmaking because Standard is hell on earth and unlocking heroes for ranked is CIA torture

We are not the same
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>>578275714
Well if this anon hates it we shouldn’t do it that settles that
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>>578276586
>it took him directly getting called out
Already posted my feedback on the forums earlier in the week THOUGH
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>>578276253

Shitlow ranks are gonna be imbalanced anyways with the high uncertainty factors, might as well give them a carrot on a stick
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>>578277228
Thank you, I knew that years and years of being deprived of any exp at all as an offlaner due to gay pulls was worth it in the end.
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if you mod your game you are cheating
simple as
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>>578277839
can you find something actually interesting to spam the thread with?
literally nobody is taking this seriously
this is my one and only reply to your obvious bait posts.
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at what rank does level 1 cheesing with lash ground strike stop working
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>>578277839
This.
Cheaters keep seething.
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>>578277903
Seethe cheater.
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>>578277839
This anon doesn't even play the game, he just ritualposts.
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Climbing at a 30% WR or whatever the number is is good actually because I can throw the game when some faggot wants to throw a bitchfit at me.
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Cheaters truly are the most disgusting posters
Can't wait for sv_pure 0 to be implemented in ranked
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>>578277501
I will point back to my feedback post again
but in the old MM it became too easy to go up and too hard to go down, I'll use the upper ranks as an example
Say you have shitters in Oracle who are ranking up just through sheer volume of games. They're now Phantom, and they're playing against actual Phantom players who have been in Phantom for however many games. These Oracle players of course don't belong in Phantom, so the -actual- Phantom players feed off them which enables them to rank up. Now those Phantom players are Ascendant, and the same thing happens to them. As much as people like to say X/Y/Z rank might as well be the same rank, they really aren't, most of what separates ranks in this game is a bunch of various small things adding up and those small things will win you more games
Anyway, it ended up pushing everyone upwards to the point that low Eternus was indiscernible from Ascendant until E4, and Ascendant games felt like some ungodly trench-low. Being able to go up with a negative WR impacts every rank this way.

I will say, I don't even type seetheposts about my teammates being bad in this general and the other anon who replied to me was simply assuming I was someone else. At the same time though this system does fuck with games, having a team full of 45% winrate climbers makes for some extremely onesided games
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>>578278770
>but in the old MM it became too easy to go up and too hard to go down
but that's a straight lie
I dropped my otp in preparation for ranked and started playing 5-6 other heroes and went from oracle to seeker in about a week at ~12 games per day
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>>578273201
I get that queue time on NA but I'm geussing the real queue time is 4x that.
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>>578279024
playing with heroes you dont normally play or with lower rank friends caused fast readjustments for sure but it doesn't make what he said a lie
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>>578278770

The more games you play in a rank, the harder it becomes to leave that rank, up or down. I’m not saying the new system is without fault, no system is without fault. But after thinking about it I do think this tradeoff is preferable to the old one, there is no magic bullet algorithm
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>>578277839
funny, I have a mod (sorry, cheat) that replaces Seven with LTG
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I dont have a single win on Mcginnis
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>>578279360

Yeah, I've had times when I've tried to get back into dota2 but it's essentially been impossible for me to climb back in rank since my inactivity sent me into the lowest ranks and I would need an jngodly amount of games to rank back up.
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>Doing alright in a game
>Get invited to join standard match in a 6 stack after
>5 german hoi IV players with youjo senki profile pictures
This is like walking into a dark alley and expecting not to get shanked
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>ult on CD
>8k ahead on Mina
>3 proc into rake doesn't kill
now what
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>was 4th rank from the top before ranked mode
>rank mode: brick rank
>every match either has completely new players or one or two smurfs who just wins the match by themselves

this rank sucks but i feel like i have enough game knowledge to be middle of the pack

any recommendations or intermediate tips?

i like lash bebop rem abrams shiv and viscous

usually do the worst with bebop and the best with lash
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>>578281067
I had an alt in cs that I would play with friends and it had like 1,000 mg1 games and I needed to win like 23 games in a row to rank up once
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>>578281431
If solo q I always recommend a splitpusher

If you can steal 5% of games splitting that’s already a 55% winrate
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Why can Wraith build 1 spirit item and then just chuck cards for 1k damage by doing the best bullet damage in the game simultaneously?
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>>578281431

Play Abrams, Shiv and Lash, discard the supports for how. Trophy hunter is extremely good since its hard to not get max stacks on it. Use builds with strong 1v1/pickoff ability, you can win games off punishing overextending dumbasses and turning that into easy objectives (rift, tower, midboss). Learn urn rputes since its free souls. Take all the sinners.
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I feel like the biggest issue in froglow is the greed of supports. I get it they're use to people ignoring waves but christ let an m1 clear those big waves.
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>>578282342
m1 niggers aren't doing jack shit on froglow. Why do I have to solo all three walkers as lash? Nothing happens otherwise it's driving me crazy. Do these people know you have to destroy objectives to win the game?
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>>578282342
Hard carries always feed in froglo no matter their soul count
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Mo and Krill
Wraith
Celeste

These 3 characters need to be taken out back in the next patch
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>>578275496
>Matchmaking whiners are all worthless bricklow shitters
If you were silly enough to play the ranked update at launch day, there's not a chance in hell brickchads were leaving brick. Disproportionately it was the most dedicated players choosing to no life ranked on a weekday. At the very least we have to call a spade a spade there.
>self-reflection or improvement
If you play nonmeta picks then poke the meta characters, it's equivalent to competing in the olympics with steroids.

In Deadlock meta >>> skill, and the matchmaking system has bugged out in identifiable ways that someone fast enough could've abused it to boost their elo. I know Eternus players who are saying currently the matchmaking shits itself if you go duo queue in high mmr and basically gives you free matches right now.
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>>578284506
Sorry bro, one of the 8 people who play night shift said wraith is d teir so she’s getting buffed
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>>578284601
>in deadlock meta>skill

Quantifiably untrue when compared relativistically to its peers(minus Dota)
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Dispel Magic is way too strong for a 3.2k
If you have fucking 30 debuffs layed onto you you should not be able to just 1 click remove them all for 3.2k
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>>578275245
he cheated death by making death work twice as hard picking that fat ass back up
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>>578284752
The op heroes in deadlock are much more op compared to op heroes in similar games.
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how is gun ivy still broken as fuck despite the 10000 gun nerfs she got
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>>578284935
>source: my vibes

Go check the spread of highest and lowest winrate hero’s and compare to other games
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>>578285029
devpet pls understand
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>>578281095
Are you a Slav too?
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>heals allies
>insta clears and camps
>shields allies
>has 2 hard ccs
>highest melee damage in the game
>also highest base gun damage in the game
why is this allowed
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fucking retarded useless lanemate not showing up while I'm 2v1ing them for 20 seconds costing us the lane
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>>578285415
I'm german too, which is how I know not to interact with those kinds of people.
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I think I miss mina one shotting walkers
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>>578285562
your duo???
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>>578285718
>had to spend her ult to do it
>didn't even work without a minimum number of extra bats
meanwhile wraith, seven, vyper, and vindicta can rape a walker in 5 seconds
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>>578285720
>play 4 hours minimum of cock and ball torture solo queue and have your friends do the same just to make ranked playable
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>>578285892
womp womp
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>>578285853

I see we are pretending not to remember things as they were
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>>578285718
Or midboss, that was fun
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>Drifter feeds in lane
>Acts like the most subhuman retard possible, forcing bad fights in enemy jungle while they have ults up etc
>Doesn't matter because my billy is thanos and 1 v 11s the game somehow
He straight up lived 1 v 4 for like a minute before we could come over and finish the enemy team off, even while fed I have zero clue how he did it and I have 250 games on billy.
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>>578285201
Massive difference is you can't switch off characters in Deadlock. So if it has a wider variance between top and lowest winrate despite being locked to a character for match runtime... Isn't that dogshit?
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>>578286874
Swapping is extremely cringe and a bandaid for bad balance, also filter for high ranks and you will see deadlock spread narrow (the only other game that also narrows at high ranks is Dota, everyone else expands)


Rivals will try to hide this metric because it know it makes them look bad but besides that I think one of their heros has literally a 1% pickrate
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>>578285853
>>578286491
I honest to god think with the powercreep this game has gotten, she could get obj destroying back.
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I honest to god think with the powercreep this game has gotten, Kelvin could get disarming beam back.
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>>578286506
He went the good build, green melee with rapid recharge.
I've done the same, except I'm stuck playing 1v4 because my team is too fucking retarded to show up.
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>>578287843
Don't want to pop your bubble but this was his build
Apparently he rushed gun spike, health spike, then spirit spike + slowing hex before randomly buying fortitude + colossus
Dude might be onto something I dunno
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>>578287142
>Swapping is extremely cringe and a bandaid for bad balance
I agree, but it's an effective bandage in that even a dog water situational 30% winrate character can have their time to shine. For Blizzard's balancing team, that was probably the better choice.
> filter for high ranks and you will see deadlock spread narrow
In Deadlock (Phantom+, only high rank with a sample size) we go from 45-56%. In Overwatch (Master, effectively the equivalent) we go from 45-55% with a singular outlier at 42%.
>https://tracklock.gg/heroes-tier-list/2026-08-12/all/phantom-plus
>https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/rates/?input=PC&map=all-maps&region=Europe&role=All&rq=2&tier=Master
The problem is Deadlock feels more draft determined than any other PvP game I've played (except maybe LoL) and if you didn't make use of those 30 seconds to swap out at the start of a comp match you're *screwed*.
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>>578288072
He could've done the same with the good build, green melee with rapid recharge.
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>>578288089
I don’t think you are feeling a draft diff but an agency diff, those ow numbers are probably 5v5 still and ow having 6v6 means you are smaller part of the team
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>>578285581
I'm an Ami so I know the same. Surprised they exist over there.
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henlo, which hero will force me learn the fundamentals of the game? nothing too team-centric tho because i'm strictly solo
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>>578286506
William is such a toptier design but he also makes no fucking sense (Yes even less than Paradox) and might as well be a timetraveler.
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>>578288951
Seven
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>>578288972
He got the goat head from some eldritch ritual, he might've been sent back in time as well for all we know
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>>578288951
Infernus + Abrams if you see this character in your lane you are either in for a rought time or an all-you-can eat buffet.
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>>578288972
Magic speedrunning cultural shifts is believeable enough, its less time and more about technology that forces radical culture shifts (See: the internet)
If the internet can give entire generations differing levels of brainrot, I don't see why magic wouldn't especially if there's, SMT esque chaos demons or devils
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>>578289260
yeah fair, we'll need to wait and see but imo he's too different. Abrams and infernus don't seem that old but around William he might as well be his grandad. William isn't even that young either.
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>>578285718
>>578285853
>>578287550
>unironicly suggesting mina buffs
careful hotpoo might be here
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>>578289937
Her melting objectives would be fine, I'd rather that than another (((rework))) that gives her wraith levels of pickrate every ranked game.
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>>578288972
>does eldritch ritual to get sick goat head
>also sees the future and how gay and retarded it is
>becomes punk that wants to tear down society
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why does sinclair suck so much fucking ass
I'm dying to everything instantly
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>>578288951
>henlo
>vtranny avatar
>friendless
LMFAO
get cancer and fuck back off to overwatch
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>>578290453
>dying as someone who has the best free escape in the game
statlocker please
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>>578290681
/pol/ lost. /qa/ lost.
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>easy to execute characters are viable in every elo, rewarding players for not having to learn shit
>hard to execute champions are viable when smurfing, punishing players for investing time into hard characters
wonderful balance
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Buff Graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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>>578291119
>hard to execute characters are also easy to counter
>meanwhile simple to execute characters are often so bloated that countering them is near impossible
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>>578285029
It's not.
Capacitor is broken
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BARE MINIMUM FOR THE NEXT CONTENT UPDATE:
>Every character with an outdated model receives an update
>New jungle creep models
>6 new heroes
>Finished map art and assets
>Shiv deleted
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>holliday cant proc spirit burn with her barrels anymore
she was allowed to be good for like one week dude
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>learning Doorman
>decide to stop trying to force fancy plays and focus on stealing jungle and securing kills with Slowing Hex + ult
>start carrying
>everybody buys counterspell and/or indomitable
>all I can do now is spam bells
How on earth is this hero still getting banned and hate? Is everybody calling me a "pedo" just a complete retard who can't even comprehend buying items outside of their public build?
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is there a future for this game at all?
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>>578292304
anon they only just now hired a guy to start working on the remodels for old characters. maybe a few remodels will be finished by oct-november, but all of gt, yamato, vyper, warden, holliday, bebop etc? maybe in 2027
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>Revert her spirit scaling to fire rate instead of weapon damage.
>Now scales sprint speed with spirit.
>Flight now gives extra sensitivity to sprint (and sprint only), meaning she accelerates faster and has higher top speed while in the air but still slows down when attacking/taking any damage from any range.
>Snipe stacks now give spirit power instead of weapon damage.
There, Vindicta fixed.
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>>578285718
I tried Mina for the first time the other day and this damage output is fucking retarded no wonder she has no health
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>>578292816
and how exactly does this 'fix' vindicta's gameplay loop of
>delete every player not hiding under a roof, get deleted by any player who buys phantom strike
?
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Wraith just flies under the radar for everything anyone notice this
>nerf mina and victor's obj destroying capability
>but wraith can blast your walker from 100 to 0 before you can even blink unnerfed
everytime a character gets nerfed because they can do x thing Wraith can already do that and she sees NO changes
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why are some characters allowed to be good for less than a month meanwhile seven with a high winrate high pickrate...gets buffs like huh?
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>>578292520
>How on earth is this hero still getting banned and hate?
Annoying. It’s not about strength at all
I really like Doorman too
Twitch/Tiktok clips showing ‘epic’ plays or throwing people under the map made a solid percentage of Doormans playerbase dumbasses fishing for the same results with a quarter of the experience so you end up with a fuckhead on your team with a worthless niche build that can’t do it, then if you do get a Doorman that can it’s pissing the enemy team/your team off since he’ll appear out of nowhere hit 3 buttons and you either die slowly or end up in the tunnels
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add runed gauntlets to the regular mode
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Deadlock shouldn't have been a shooter game.
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>>578293543
seven is bad thobeit just ran at him
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>>578292520
>everybody calling me a "pedo" just a complete retard who can't even comprehend buying items outside of their public build?
Yes, I’d say 90% of the playerbase is that retard.
Doorman isn’t that strong but his CCs are good and even his bell has some annoying side effects, it causes a sense of helplessness that annoys the shit out of people so if there’s a competent Doorman unless they read him like a book he’s shutting them down and that stings to their very core.
had a Haze so mad one match she solo ulted me 12 times and I carted her every single time, the chat lit up with slurs (you know, instead of just buying unstoppable)
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>>578292540
I assume so, there’s a secret actual beta for the real playtesters since this one had the floodgates opened, it’s how we learned about the Patron changes 4 months in advance, Valve really locked down on leaks since then but there’s definitely some stuff getting worked on we have no idea about.
Just gotta wait
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>>578294396
If we aren't getting the item update in 2 weeks or earlier I will flip the fuck out
Its been SO FUCKING LONG MAN
GIVE US ACTUAL CONTENT
I thought the old gods update took too long, how foolish I was
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>>578294510
6 weeks till october
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>>578293543
>seven ults
>I aim at him and press m1
>he dies
he is pretty bad
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funny how they keep nerfing warden and yet he is still the most stat bloated hero in the game this guy can do everything and be good at it all
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>>578268763
>she has no identity

skirmisher/ganker who transforms into a dive tank
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>>578295531
he can't get off the ground so he's really only a danger to melee characters (who are all broken op anyway)
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what ults are the best to steal as sinclair?
which are the worst?
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>>578274205
time your bursts after she stuns you?
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>>578295615
That's what she's supposed to be but she's classified as a marksman for some reason also she's too fucking weak to function as anything
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>>578295746
Haze is the outright worst ult to steal in the game
good is any teamfight winning ult
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>>578295654
whats it like being in bricklow?
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>>578295794
Don't even bother giving it a (You)
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>>578295794
>unironically getting hit by ivy 3
holy brick
do you low elo pedophiles have 0 stam
or movement abilities
or warp stone
or counterspell
or literally anything
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>>578275515
Stacking and pulling is a stupid mechanic and should not be in Deadlock. The vast majority of assfaggots stuff they have put into Deadlock is bad. Last hits and denies are bad enough already.
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>>578296258
NTA but
>counterspell stone form
>"ECHO SHARD"
>"STONE FORM!"
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>>578295794
>>578296104
>>578296183
>>578296258
>>578296352
I accept your concession.
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>>578294510
>new item; Volition
>Green
>next ability used has it’s cooldown lowered by 60% (no ults)
Idk how to balance
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>>578296258
>100000 aoe radius disjoint invulnerable stun into heavy melee 100000000 radius nade
>and that's if she didn't drop a knockup silence nuke on you with vortex web and mystic reverb

ivy sisters...
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>>578296258
>Ivy downplayer
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>>578293764
It was supposed to be VR if I remember
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>walk out of the walkers AoE stomp
>visibly outside of the circle
>still get hit
ladeece wah-charooum
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Im currently eating:
3 eggs
2 slices of peameal ham
2 slices of bacon
2 breakfast sausages
and 2 buttermilk pancakes slathered in butter and maple syrup!
And afterwards im going to smonk a boof and play some mutha fucking puddle puncher gooboy and theres NOTHING you can do to stop me!
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Character that does a 10 hit combo or strings WHEN?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10qRM4gdqQc
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Why does nobody buy active reload on Drifter? he has a pathetically low ammo count and I keep running out mid fights.
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>>578297076
pee meal?
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>>578296352
if you can't escape after counterspelling with stam, you might be pisslow.
>>578296735
I never said Ivy wasn't top 5 and fucking broken.
getting hit by stone form, especially when you're crying that she's using it to try and escape with ult.
makes you a massive fucking noob.
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>>578297243
>if you can't escape after counterspelling with stam, you might be pisslow.
Irony of you calling someone pisslow when no Ivy will ever let you use any stam because you'll always be Vortex Web'd by any Ivy above Bricklo
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>>578297232
*sharts all over your lobby*
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>>578297243
i'm a tiny noob not a massive noob
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>>578295746
Spirit based AoEs or ‘fuck you’ ults like Doormans or Victors if you wanna piss off someone in particular
as a warning stolen Shivs ult; it’ll give you another use of your Sinclair ult if you get a kill with it but if you attempt to steal Shivs again it’ll instantly eat your reuse and put it on cooldown, if you do somehow make that niche situation happen steal someone elses instead if you can, that reuse gets the same timer as Shivs Ult so you have a little time to find someone
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>>578297150
i don't play de Drifta but you can buy Kinetic Dash or Quicksilver Reload for the same price, which is usually what i see people buy
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how do we improve that ass tutorial
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That's it, I'm done.
I was playing on Emissary comfortably before the ranked patch now the game decides I'm not even good enough for Seeker because I play Initiator/Support.
No Valve I'm not gonna play dishonest stinky meta carries for 50 games so I can get to where I belong just so I get to play with actual people instead of deranged troglodytes.
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>queue street brawl
>5 min later, the queue pops
>everyone but 1 person loaded in
>we're stuck in a lobby for 3 minutes waiting for that 1 guy to load din
>the lobby is dead, everyone booted out
>want to queue up again
>15 min ban
uhm what
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>>578298368
You are playing with the same people brainlet
>>
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>>578298368
why do you care about rank so much when it’s commonly agreed for a year straight matchmaking is ass?
Even with this recent change it’s still ass, it’ll probably continue be ass for 2 years from now, you might as well just play who you enjoy playing and enjoy the game as best you can, accept it for what it is
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>>578298368
Those deranged troglodytes exist in every rank man you’re not gonna escape it just because you got a shiny medal
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>>578298752
> you might as well just play who you enjoy playing and enjoy the game as best you can
That's what I'm doing and It's not working
Every game is 0/12 feeders on other lanes at 10 minutes and then a pointless struggle until the enemy team decides to finish.
There's nothing to enjoy there
>accept it for what it is
I did, It's dogshit and It's not gonna get fixed, so I'm done.
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>>578297150
Same reason as blood trib I think, because you are able to fuck it up people just don’t buy it

>>578297732
I think it’s probably just better than kdash for drift specifically, more ammo and similar firerate on top of lifesteal. You don’t get the stam but also don’t have to burn the stam to proc the buff. With qsr you have to use either 1 or 2 suboptimally
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>>578298498
you're lying, you've been bad. now out with the truth bad goy
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>>578274689
>vindicta has the alchemical symbol for fire on her forehead
>kit has nothing to do with fire
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>>578299407
she fires her gun
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>>578299407
>he doesn’t buy alch fire and combo with her stake

I bet you don’t buy rescue beam either
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>>578299407
Was probably carved into her forehead when she was burned at the stake or something
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>>578284759
Dispel Magic and Counterspell are both way too good.
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Why does Victor have lighting scroll and cheat death as an ability
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>>578300465
Because at least a third of the characters in the game need to be designed for mouthbreathing retards to be able to play, or else they would stop playing Deadlock.
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Why is Victors reanimation hit box a cylinder that reaches the sky box? What other ability in the game has this bs?
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>>578300825
most spells work like this
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>>578300465
Because he has no mobility and his entire shtick is holding w at you with very unimpressive stats.
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https://x.com/abl_fn/status/2090805916153295140
FREE THIS NIGGA NNNOOWWW
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>>578300964
mmm... nyo
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One good fight can change the outcome of a game
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>>578300910
Abrams ult doesn't
Pockets kit doesn't
Infernus ult doesn't
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>>578300964
Is this guy the only streamer/proplayer who hit eternus without duo queueing?
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>>578301217
he's perma duo with oses so no lol
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>>578300936
>no mobility
>what are dashes
>wall jumps
>dash jumps
>warp stone
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Mina should have been black, her personality would have made way more sense that way.
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>>578301217
Isn't Disco the only guy to get there solo so far
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>>578301120
no it can't
all your clip proves is that a "good" fight can reinforce the outcome of an otherwise predetermined (by rng comps) match
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>>578300964
Why aren't they playing Silver?
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Drifter should have been black, his personality would have made way more sense that way.
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>>578301771
she's too hard even for the top echelon of Deadlock players
Only TRVE SONS of /dlg/ can pilot Silver
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Silver should have been black, her personality would have made way more sense that way.
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>>578301707
Why are you so defeatist?
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Wraith should've been black, her personality would have made way more sense that way
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Infernus should have been black, his personality would have made way more sense that way.
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>>578301120
>cheats
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List of black deadlock Heroes:
Bebop
Calico
Drifter
Haze
Infernus
Mina
Rem
Vyper
Wraith
The doorman
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>>578301481
>>578301802
>>578301876
>>578302041
>>578302121
we did it, reddit!!!
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>>578302295
Rem is honorary aryan
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Imagine there existed a person with the power to rewind time and they used it every time they lost a game, in order to get a 100% WR. What kind of teammates would the MM pair them with?
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>>578302796
Rem is Mexican at best
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>>578301802
>bloodthirsty killer that attacks alone people should've been black to align with his personality
makes sense
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>>578303117
>wasting your superpower to rewind time on a MOBA in a closed alpha
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>>578300964
>russian
What is the chance he is using some sort of cheat?
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>>578303197
It makes more sense if he attacks people with a group
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>>578302003
it's the truth, just compare comps
the dogshit teambuilder system thought venator (worst m1 and possibly hero in the game) was a good enough carry but gave you guys haze AND vindicta on top of a well balanced comp
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>>578303117
how is rewinding time going to help you get wins from guaranteed losses?
are the teammates not going to make the exact same mistakes as before?
and as soon as you intervene in a fight potentially saving one of them the entire timeline shifts and you have no clue what will happen next
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>>578303951
NTA but obviously you rewind until before you queued so you can get in another match
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>>578303117
if I could rewind time I'm doing anything but playing videogames with it before the other time lords find me
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Riposte should've been a passive that boosts your next heavy melee after a parry/counterspell by 50/100/200/500% and a stun for 0.5/0.75/1/1.5 seconds
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Thoughts on Fortitude? I feel like it's gotten nerfed to the point that you're better off just ziplining back to spawn for a heal instead of relying on it.
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>>578304412
you should've been aborted
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>>578304494
I’m a flat hp appreciator so I like it
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If I can rewind time I'm gonna go to Costco during work hours when it's less busy
And maybe make an appointment to get tsa pre-check
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>>578304494
fortitude op frfr
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>>578304494
I'd been buying it a lot but lately I feel like spending the 3200 on something else is just better, especially if you really need dispel/counterspell since you get some health with those anyway
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>>578304494
It's good on character's that will already be roaming and don't want Veil.
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>>578304597
Personally I’m rewinding 20 years to unfuck my life
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>>578304412
>action game parry ability
>now a boring parry passive

soulless
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if 2 u gay
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>>578304792
Oh no
I FUCK MEN NOW
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>>578279360
>>578281067
>>578281454
Why do all mmr systems do this in the end? All it seems to do is promote smurfing which makes ladder even worse to play.
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>>578304412
it should auto riposte the hero that triggered it
it also shouldn't work on bullets
and also it shouldn't trigger if an ability hits the pentagram, but only on apollo himself
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remember when lifesteal/spirit life steal was even remotely useable and got nerfed because low elo retards REFUSED to build anti heal (unironically what happened btw)
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>>578304597
I'm doing the same with costco but I'm going back when its not flooded with jeets
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what baselines do placements games use for matchmaking? MMR with the specific hero you queue with?

How do they know not to place you in a lobby far above your skill outright and have you eat shit for 40 minutes?
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>play wraith
>Feed early
>Still win
It's that easy
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>>578304840
i fuck man ass?
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>>578305090
Regional skill issue, mine doesn't have that problem
(It's Chinese here)
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>>578305578
>>578304840
silver sissies....
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>>578305697
you suck balls all day
just because you like it so much
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>>578305578
Yes, abrams
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>>578305762
>all day
I wish
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>>578304923
>it also shouldn't work on bullets
genuinely fucking insane design that you get stunned by this retarded character who has SIXTY (60%) bullet res in 3 for having the AUDACITY to shoot him.
not even an ability
not even parrying a fucking stun
for SHOOTING HIM
you get stunned
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>>578305762
ferraro rochere balls are good doe
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>>578305578
I suck balls
All day
Just because
I like it so much
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So, uhh, how many of you are killing yourselves if there's no announcement or update dropped during TI?
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>>578305978
I'm chillin' if the full releases takes two years. I have no clue why people want yoshi to rush it. well I do, they are leech streamers dying to make money
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>>578305978
>expecting anything from TI
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I've been playing on the NA servers all week and you fucks don't know how good you have it. People actually communicate there. Ranked matches are so much better. I think i'm just going to keep playing NA , its worth it even at high-ish ping
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>>578307104
>Communication
>ERP
Just go to VR chat
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>>578307104
I played on NA and even with 150 ping it's SO free. I feel like I'm smurfing when I'm EU oracle playing in NA oracle
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>NA servers
It's usually one or two guys making bad calls and one of them shuts up for the rest of the game if he starts going negative
Better than nothing doe
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If I could rewind time it would be time to change the world
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>>578305978
Valve hasn't even done big announcements at TI for several years now.
Fuck the latest hero Largo was just shadowdropped out of nowhere, not even a TI tease.
Valve barely even have anything to do with the tournament anymore outside of telling PGL (current people who run the tournament) not to do anything retarded.
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>Game starts
>Everyone is talking
>Match starts going sour
>It becomes quiet
I laugh every time it happens
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>>578307447
Dude, in Asia your "low mmr team" will be one eternus, four initiates, and one archon. In NA people are vaguely at the same skill level.

And best of all, voice chat doesn't devolve into Ukraine vs Russia political debate.
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>just need to win one more game to go up a division
I'm really nervous. I need words of encouragement guys!
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>>578307447
that's if you're lucky, I usually encounter the guys who won't shut the fuck up and then start passing blame to deflect from their 0-7 score
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>>578308331
>tranime
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>>578305043
>lifesteal is bad
since when?
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love how there's literally nothing I can do against seven as graves thats fun 3200k item just worthless because of unstop (knockdown)
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>>578308593
Leech used to give resistance to anti-heal, now it's a dead item unless you have unstoppable active as everyone buys anti heal
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>>578308650
Your first moba or what? A character countering another is nothing new
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>>578308834
don't know what you're talking about I'm still pasting niggas with vampiric burst
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>>578305578
>>578305762
>>578305926
underrated

>>578304494
it's just an awkward item to make use of effectively
i still buy it sometimes but it doesn't feel like a 'good' item, more of a 'win more' convenience
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>abrams is killing everyone
>literally the only one that buys any form of healing reduction
why does this happen SO OFTEN
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>>578309530
reminder to include a healcut item if you make L-R guides.
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>>578309530
Yesterday enemy Apollo was up 10k on anyone else in the lobby courtesy of my lovely yellow lane and I was the only one with any anti heal so we got ran the fuck over.
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>>578304765
What roamers don't want veil walker, though?
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>>578309530
About 80% of the players in this game are L-R chimps, this isn't particularly concentrated at low elos either
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>>578309842
The ones with melee skills like abrams drifter calico bebop, shadowweave is better
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>>578310009
Shadow Weave is an orange item, not a green item. Also all of those heroes love Veil Walker for the faster roams, escape potential and healing on veil
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>>578310009
Shadow weave is the second worst item in the game after Tankbuster, though
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>>578310157
I've pondered the use of shadow weave, veilwalker does seem better, but if you really want other greens maybe it could be useful just to get the spikes
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Mystic Shot or Recharging Rush for gun spike on Lash? I've been going Mystic Shot but it's only like, 1-1.5k damage a game. Curious if it's better to just get the extra mobility.
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lost my first placement game, my prediction is I'm going to lose all of them because I play holliday.
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>>578308593
since always the item rework patch, newfag-kun.
even infuser seven hitting 6 people gets hard raped by anti heal.
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>>578310157
Those aren’t real advantages dude, shadowweave has roam speed too, using invis to escape is not a thing and the heal is cosmetic
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>>578310157
>>578310393
I get weave over walker on Drifter and Abrams if our team lacks gun damage, the on demand invis is nice and while VW has secondary use as a sustain item, SW can let you farm faster with the ambush buffs. It's still got decent passive regen as well.
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they should add an option to toggle friendly fire if you get a teammate who sounds like he used to get shoved into lockers
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Every time I play as Venator, I eat shit. Every time I play against Venator, I eat shit. What the fuck is that hero?
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>>578311989
you must be in a state of grace to do well with venator
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Dynamo stomp doing 300 damage is totally fair and balanced
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>>578310710
>using invis to escape is not a thing
>t. guy who has never played the game before
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>>578312148
It is, this hero fucking sucks ass
Unnerf stomp
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I wonder when yoshi will bring in axe taunt to deadlock
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>>578312215
bwos in his mmr think it's like dota stealth.
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>>578308650
>WAHH WAHH I PICKED THE RETARD MONKEY HERO FOR MONKEY RETARDS AND I CAN'T RETARD MONKEY RUN AT SOMEONE
good
play a real hero, pedophile.
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>>578312313
just land your hole bro
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>get a kelvin and victor on my team
>the moment victor got infuser he grabbed our kelvin by the throat
>and forced him to go mid with him
>everytime the enemy tried to contest
>he would yell "kelvin cast your rape dome now!!"
>entire enemy team would die from the smell of unwashed ass
>win the game
also does replay save voice?
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>>578312935
>cheats
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>>578308650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8-5HSi8aDY
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>>578312935
you're late someone already posted it >>578275093
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>>578312215
Post a single clip of invis enabling an escape and I’ll concede
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Silver would make a good trad wife since she is from the south
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>>578313176
i know my bad sir, wont happen again sir
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>>578312891
>also does replay save voice?
no, unfortunately. or maybe fortunately, considering some of the games I've had
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I need mo to pick me up with his big burly arms and use me
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>have to lane janny
>and get all my kills stolen
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why am I always the one playing side lane janitor when i'm not a carry, but when i'm a carry I can't get a side lane
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>>578314095
hero shooter players don't know what a carry or a side lane is
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>>578314095
Team comp
Certain heroes need side lanes or are useless
If you have
>Geist
>Graves
>Victor
>Seven
In all one team then your eco and tempo is fucked since they all need a side lane and afk farm.
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Old hero’s> new hero’s simply because they are more generalist and I can pivot when I see a teammate failing
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>>578312891
Saves enemy team chats so if you can tell they’re were at each others throats might be worth a peak
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>>578314034
bricklo? 4 EE and the enemy has 0 spirit res
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>>578314613
Frogstone? Ee shred doesn’t stack with its self
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I might have to start banning billy, tired of always having him on the enemy team for some reason and never in mine
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>>578311989
>he thinks he can misuse the lords sword
For the Grace of God man
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>>578314781
we only have two dedicated frontliner tanks atm yea ('brams and billy)
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>>578314613
close. seekerlo
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>>578314613
>damage amp only works if the enemies bought spirit resilience
ok
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>>578315378
hello bricklo
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>double lash ult
>double dynamo ult
realistically how do you win that team fight
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>>578315419
the only one who absolutely shouldn't have ee is bebop who didn't even get spirit burn, the others all either have ee as core item or have the dot to consistently max stack it without any commitment
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>>578315708
dont let the game get to 65 minutes
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With end of service being announced in a few months, how are we feeling? How many hours did you sink and what are you gonna move to?
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>>578315708
curse dynamo kill him insta
curse lash kill him insta
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Calmest EU Voice Chat Interaction (whilst winning)
https://vocaroo.com/17thKf58sfJ6
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>have such a good early game the enemy team are complaining about match making and call me and REM cheaters
>lose because our right lane has two subhumans who both go 3/12 and ignore all comms
Touché
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>>578272221
>tyler mcvicker didn't know that deadlock's matchmaking system was gotten off chatgpt
>he genuinely believes valve has never used AI in development at all
why do people follow this clown unironically
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signs the match is over when your teammate buys any of these
>tankbuster
>toxic bullets
>decay
>lightning scroll
>titanic mag
>bullet resist shredder
>blood tribute
>active reload
>spellslinger
>escalating exposure
>sharpshooter
>radiant regen
>escalating resilience
>leech
>shadow weave
>express shot
>sharpshooter
>glass cannon
>lucky shot
>non support character buys healing tempo
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>>578316135
If you think the entire matchmaking algorithm was lifted wholesale from an LLM you're as retarded as him
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>>578316024
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>>578316146
I literally bought both of those and won explain that one chudmeister?!
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>>578315906
going back to league my sister
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>>578316024
wouldn't have it any other way
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>>578316146
>titanic mag
>bullet resist shredder
>radiant regen
>spellslinger
I love these items though. I stand firmly that tit mag is actually compy on Geist
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>no slacks Deadlock cosplay at TI
>probably no announcement at the end
>probably no item update before september
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>>578316628
>cheats
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>>578316146
rank check?
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>>578316146
holy retard
>>
>>578316146
Big trvke.
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>>578316227
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/moba/valve-chatgpt-deadlock-algorithm/
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>>578317508
It's very evident you've never coded a day in your life if you think he just said "give me a matchmaking algorithm" and used it wholesale. Don't talk about things you don't understand. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>578316762
idc item update
give me content update
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>>578309639
In the core build preferably to complete their 4.8k*** hell do it twice!
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Is this normal for unranked?
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Suck build tank Geist is legit broken in memelow not sure what the fuck is going on because they keep buying curse/healcut etc but the hag endures.
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>>578316146
>>tankbuster
>>express shot
>>sharpshooter
>>glass cannon
Uhm... Carbineenjoyers... our response?
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>>578316048
Why does ven get to be a carry who also lanes good?
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>>578317929
It's normal for ranked.
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>>578317956
because he's a snail and impossible to ever escape on
(every m1 is good in lane thoughever)
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>>578317941
>Suck build tank Geist
Suck got giga nerfed. Lost 25% of it's damage, probably the largest nerf a damage source has seen numbers wise

It's just not a good damage source anymore and Geist is tanky enough without building for it
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I always dominate early/mid and then the team falls apart in endgame despite giving them map control all game to soak farm.
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>>578318154
>memelow
it still works. Not talking about PA lobbies.
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Lane janny this
Lane janny that
EVERYONE NEEDS TO CLEAR LANES YOU FUCKING MONGRELS
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>>578318274
You're a bad leader and your macro needs to be studied as a cautionary tale.
This is good news, because you can learn
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>>578318429
killing this T1 camp in the middle of the map is more important though
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>>578316146
>Escalating Exposure bad
lmao
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>have worst lane phase ever
>tower gone in 3 mins
>lane partner abandons lane immediately.
>spend next 10 minutes pushing the lane to get tower ALONE
>everytime I die, its because my teamates are never there to help
>cant blame them since they have their own lanes but I can blame lane partner
>have dogshit game
>still win because im playing graves and the enemy roamers dont know how to melee my skulls
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>>578318638
hello initatetard
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>Guy that wont shut up and on the verge of tilting is the worst player on the team
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>>578318980
some niggas' ego just dont let them get carried, sadly.
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>>578316024
>>578316273
LMFAOOOOO
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verdict?
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>>578320539
>verdict?
Definitely gay
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>>578320539
>extra health first item
>spirit lifesteal second (with no spirit investment bwt)
>stam (good)
>stam mastery instead of the spirit stam item (you should be rushing this 1st/2nd item btw, it's fucking disgusting on seven)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burst fire
PLEASE
BRO
DO NOT FUCKING BUILD ATTACK SPEED ON SEVEN
IT QUITE LITERALLY DOES NOTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE 1000% BONUS (not hyperbolic in the slightest)
do no go tesla/capacitor on a character with dogshit attack speed.
go spirit resist shredder instead.
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>>578320758
>DO NOT FUCKING BUILD ATTACK SPEED ON SEVEN
t. shitter
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>>578320539
If you have both Indom and Unstoppable and both are up, does indom get wasted or does unstop take priority?
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>>578320539
>vortex web
>Tesla bullets
>Bullet/Spirit resilience
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>>578320539
not bad, but i would add active reload early as it doubles gun damage
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does debuff resist affect parry stun duration
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>>578321740
Ye
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>>578320539
>debuffer seven
based
Capacitor is bad on him afaik
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>>578320827
attack speed is not effective on seven because it doesn't lower the downtime between his burst shots
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*raises paw*

I have an idea for a bruiser kit centered around setting people on fire with axe taunt, too much like infernus?
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Are there actual new heroes in the real test branch or are they prioritizing something else now?
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>>578322606
@chatgpt hack into the valve deadlock test branch and answer this. make no mistakes.
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reminder: item update in october, jungle in november
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>>578322606
gotta be a chink hero if they're releasing with perfect world soon
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lore: pocket is just a random homeless guy
mina is the REAL pocket after tranisitioning, that's why so many troons cosplay him
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>>578322606
I don't know, but random Deadlock accounts on twitter are vague posting about next week
Who knows what they are cooking
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>>578317692
hey retard maybe stop asking chatgpt to give you a summary of what i wrote and actually read the 2 sentences yourself. literally the only thing i've said was that tyler "passionate valve news gamer" mcvicker was a moron for believing valve doesn't use ai when there are very clear, public examples of devs stating their AI wins over on twitter from at least 2 years ago
leave it to the aibro to be more defensive than a farming wraith before the 1 hour mark jesus
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>>578323502
Go back to school, moron. If you actually read the article you linked you'd see it was nothing more than using it as an extended search engine which is all it's good for anyway. Like I said, you've not coded or worked with any statistics or science in your entire life so I don't know why you're trying to be some kind of authority on this subject.
Embarrassing.
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>post something
>immediately realize it’s retarded
> switch threads/boards

Too ez
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>>578323773
so valve has used ai on the development of this game then thanks for the confirmation i didn't ask for
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>>578324165
>heh, if i change the definition then im right
I guess googling is AI too since the search engine is technically an ML backend
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>>578324165
Ai good, reminder that the anti ai sentiment is boosted by the chinese
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>>578324303
you can literally enter the valve engineer's twitter right now and check that he posted about how good using claude is literally 2 hours ago https://x.com/ZPostFacto
those news were from 2 years ago
i know you're baiting but come on dude step it up a bit this is too retarded. step it up or you won't get another (you)
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>>578324669
>whataboutism
Yeah we're done here
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hello chatgpt what's a good algo for mm
uhhhhhhh this one
wow thank you

2 years later

AIIIIIIIIIIE THEY ARE USING AI VALVE CABRON
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>>578324726
it's the same guy. the point of tyler not knowing jack shit about valve still applies
notice btw how i never actually said using ai was bad
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graves is fucking awful dude
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>>578324889
What does that have to do with anything?
You said they "got the algorithm off of chatgpt" as if that's some massive own and not just a much smarter way to do it than to sit and read through 100s of papers on arXiv. It's an extension of a search engine, a way to parse data, and you are evidently a luddite.
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I wanto to learn a spirit carry, holiday or shiv?
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Its chinese summer
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>>578320827
actual fucking retard, holy shit.
>>578322270
don't help him, let that moron stew in his stupidity for instead attacking when given actual advice.
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>gay talon bug
>metal skin to be invincible while flying the dumb fucking bird since melee and abilities can't hit you in it
>teleport across the fucking map
KILL THIS REDDIT FAGGOT CHARACTER ALREADY
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>>578325167
>thinking the oversimplification of the application of ai was the point and not bashing the eceleb retard who made his entire brand around being a valve knoower for not actually knowing the first thing about valve
Yeah, we're done here.
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>>578320539
absolute dogshit if i saw you in my game i'd immediately queue up some videos to watch
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>>578325192
neither are carries
play geist or celeste
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I swear I see the same heroes over and over ever since the MM update
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>>578325610
Yeah because you're wrong outright. They didn't "use AI" in any sense other than "hey what's the best way to do this kthx" like you would a search engine. You're retarded, you don't even understand what your own article is telling you. That eceleb is unironically smarter than you, and that's fucking sad.
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Nerf parries
Buff melee
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>>578325303
not the guy you're calling a retard but seven basically only gets like 30% of the on-paper DPS increase from attack speed because burst fire guns in this game are fucked up.
it's technically bad but still nice to get at least one item (usually spiritual overflow).
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Gay Talon should drain stamina from holding his charged shot
And they should also change his running animation so it no longer looks like he's shit himself when running
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>>578320836
Please respond
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>>578320836
>>578326375
I asked this once before too and I never got any response
>>
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>>578326238
yoshi bust this guy's knees
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>>578303323
he is kazakh and muslim, so unlikely to be russian ethnic
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>>578325821
>Drifter
>Wraith
>Lash
>Ivy
>Celeste
>Venator
occasional
>Paige
>Bebop
>Vindicta
>Apollo
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>>578325381
mfw ulting under guardian but immediately break LOS with ult to bait enemies to dive me and they cant hit me with anything and get trophy stacks from bird and also retards dying trying to kill me
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>>578326502
welp guess i'll see if i can find some way to test it and report back later
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Genuinely what do you do to shut down a celeste?
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>5 game winstreak
>get into a match where 4 people on my team are on loss streaks
>where they fed
>the only other person who isn't on a loss streak is the most carried faggot ever
How do I know this? Statlocker. Then I look at the enemy team and 4 people on their team are on a win streak while two are on a loss streak but their peformance in the loss streak isn't bad. Something is definitely fucky with this matchmaking, feels very EOMM.
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>>578325048
The words of a man who smokes dick and sucks it just as hard. She is great right now.
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>>578326790
I'm talking about the warp stone bug.
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>>578327084
>smokes dick and sucks it just as hard
Sucking dick is manly
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>>578325381
how the fuck is talon reddit
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>>578327180
t. lash
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>>578327197
representation
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>>578327274
being able to dip into real world archetypes is part of the appeal of the setting doe
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>>578322173
>Yamato
lol
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>it's reddit because hes not from hexalburg phantomville
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>>578317956
>He thinks Wraith is bad in lane
>He thinks Infernus hasn't been lane hitler since forever.
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Why doesnt Doorman have a ping for his door? Like "heres a door leading a great distance away"?
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>>578328123
Because you can just say it with your voice to your team
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>lane against vindicta as graves
oh well might as well afk because there's literally nothing I can do
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>>578328265
that's vindicta against every short range hero in the game lil gup
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>>578328123
they don't even have a ping for the rift and a bunch of the voice lines are still weird (characters asking "are you sure?" when selecting the option that says "no").
it's probably going to be overhauled on release.
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>look at a venator while im yamato and ping him
>''DA BENATOR IS ON TOP OF DA GALLAGE PREASE''
really valve?
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>>578327197
Because he's fucking gay and unskilled?
Like how is he not
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>>578328535
what does that have to do with reddit, have you thought about going back there?
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>>578328697
Hes banned, be sympathetic you friggin bully
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>>578328697
>NOOOO MY HERO ISNT REDDIT NOOOOOO
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>>578328265
what you dont like not being to hurt a hero while 1 bullet of theirs does 50 damage in lane and also a long range 300+ damage nuke that gives her damage stacks?
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>>578328123
Weirdly overlooked but they also used to let you ferry the urn with the doors for months so they most likely went “yo wouldn’t it be fuckin’ cool if implemented Portal” and free styled it from there
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Um guys? Be better
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>>578328931
real reddit characters:
>bebop
>lash
>dynamo
>mcginnis
>celeste
>doorman
>ivy
>mo & krill
>paige
>graves
>silver
>rem
>viscous
>abrams
>kelvin
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>>578329006
Im trying, bad at the game but matchmaking says I need to play with eternus players while learning
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>>578329248
noooooo im not reddit! im not reddit! you are reddit!
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>>578329248
Seven isn't reddit? Then why do I play him, despite being a mega chungus?
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>Me when I get another Yamato that went 1-17
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we must be better laners
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>>578329483
I shant
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>>578329248
>guy whos definitely not a redditor:
>heres a list of characters that are reddit
KWAB
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Deadlock is reddit
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https://poal.me/eiz404
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>>578329248
calicoGODS we dodged a bullet
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>>578317508
>A few days ago we switched Deadlock's matchmaking hero selection to the Hungarian algorithm. I found it using ChatGPT.
holy shit just read the fucking article you colossally inbred fuck
it didn't generate an algorithm, he asked it a question with constraints and it pointed him in the right direction
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>>578329483
>laning against Infernous and Mina
>pop head out for 3 seconds
>get succ’d and lit on fire
I’m trying man
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>>578317929
Closer than most of my ranked games.
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bullet resist should slow the build-up rate of stuff like afterburn, love bites, etc
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>>578327023
use everything on her.
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Give witchmail a buff
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>>578330128
agreed, the stat is too crap as is
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>>578330128
Bro your juggernaut?
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>>578320673
>>578320758
>>578320836
>>578321110
>>578321605
>>578322210
i will make adjustments
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>metro is playing off-stream and deranking
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>4 game winstreak on THE LASH
GOT YOUR NUMBER, BABY
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>>578330792
Metro is legit "We have XQC at home" Its uncanny
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>>578327023
Arctic Blast or Capicator I like Phantom Striking onto her and then hitting her with an Arctic Blast
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>ivy flys over
>drops ult, vines and alchemical fire
>stone forms me
>stunned forever
>echo shard stone forms me
>stunned again
>vines stun me
>after all that artic blasts me and stunned again
what a fun and interactive character experience yoshi. Thanks!
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Just saw a Mina go 1-22
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>>578331372
That was me when I didn't know how to play the game
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>>578331363
m1ggerlo...
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>>578327023
literally nothing because she's OP
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>Chinese Abrams flanks
>think this guy is a fucking moron man he's throwing the game
>backdoors their base while all of them are standing on rift and he wins a 2v6
abrams players are just too smart man
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>>578331372
That's me after I learned how to play the game
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>>578331363
Your unstoppable?
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>>578331363
Be sure to post this on the forum
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they should unironically get rid of wall jumps. gameplay was infinitely better when they weren't a thing.
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>>578330942
XQC isn't having a fun time either lol
He's a 50/50 agent in his games spamming spirit ABRAMS like a subhuman
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damn the ivysissies got a little uppity on that one
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>>578331631
Get a load of this Mario hater
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>>578331363
>haze walks up to you invisible
>knife, ults you
>back to respawn screen

>infernus sees you
>procs afterburn
>back to respawn screen

>venator gets close
>gutshots you
>back to respawn screen

>vyper slides up to you
>back to respawn screen

is that better?
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>>578331363
If only there were items that negated stuns...oh well L > R says tankbuster so
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>>578330904
lash probably wants your number because he's gay
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>>578331631
>yeah, this universally beloved mechanic that no one has a problem with besides me?
>FUCKING REMOVE IT NOOOOOOOOOW
Whining bitch kys
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>>578331775
>Disarm
>Disarm
>Disarm
>Disarm
Wow, that was easy
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>>578331853
Why are the men gay in this game
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>>578331853
Lash is Lashsexual, unironically
Lash probably swings both ways realistically I don't think he gives a fuck. He hits on Holliday and a few women.
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>>578331975
lash just sets off my gaydar
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After all, why shouldn't I just buy Lightning Scroll on Doorman?
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>>578331975
It's only lash and seven and kelvin and mirage and Sinclair and doorman
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>>578331804
i too, love making up scenarios in my head
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>>578332147
I can live with doorman and I just joke about lash being gay because of the mustache and the sparkles

the kelvin/seven shit is crackship bullshit
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>>578331896
>adding things that are antithetical to this genre's gameplay is a good thing, chud.

post 6 new heroes update goyim need not reply
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What if Sevens wife was on the expedition with Kelvin, who was a family friend, and that's why he hates him so much because he inadvertently got her killed.
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>>578332413
>noooo the game should cater to meeee. to meeeee!!!!
you sound like a toddler. drink some cement and harden the fuck up nigga
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>>578332504
>stop asking questions and just meatride valve and yoshi for adding shitty things to the game stop having opinions i dont like

the goyim have gone insane.
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>>578332305
>the kelvin/seven shit is crack ship bullshit
It's a reach but only a small one. Not egregious imo.
>>578332481
A fine theory also.
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>>578332913
>asking questions
>said "question" is just whining and demanding something be removed
(You)
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I really like playing these guys
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is goo ball colossus+majestic leap+phantom strike into lightning scroll peak joy and whimsy in deadlock
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why are mo and krills so fucking stupid?
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>>578332118
If that worked it’d be the most dehumanizing shit in the world
>get hit by slowing hex
>sent to baroness
>fail to leave in time and get stunned
>eat LS stun
>eat two cart stuns while being beaten to death by 3 people
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>>578333493
it does proc lightning scroll when the ult is finished regardless of whether you fail or escape. maybe you meant the timing of the proc and im dumb
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graves might be the most neutered hero ever
it really does fucking nothing anymore
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>>578333330
don't stay that out loud you'll be crucifed for playing a "low skill" hero
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wow i just love how viscous can cube and fly across the map!
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>>578333493
you can time a knockdown with the baroness so they get stunned right as they enter and hit them with a SH at the same time
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>80% win rate
>100pts away from ranking up
>loss win loss win loss loss
Okay
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>>578334113
i had a 80% winrate and 300 from ranking up on a 9 game winstreak. ive lost 8 in a row since
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>>578333727
Later levels of Baroness have its own stun, I meant imagine eating two different stuns upon leaving then Doorman throws his stun cart as well
>>578333992
That is cruel, I will use this
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>baby mode zero effort hero is D tier
uhhhh good?????
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There is no videogame where your rank matters
Maybe epoker or other gambling but esports trash
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>>578334113
This is me
I have like 8+ winstreaks then get the most unnnatural 3 loss streaks
Can't complain since I'm flying through ranked but its odd.
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Valve insider here.
They're announcing end of service for deadlock at TI.
Be ready.
Q.
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>gamba addict spewing bricklow cope
bets its also a gachatranny?
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>>578332989
you really think it's just a small reach? feels shoehorned as hell to me. Like oooh these two guys are having a professional dispute (and they also fuck)

i don't buy it personally
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>>578333727
Lightning Scroll works on Baroness?
I thought it was like Geist where it did fuck all
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>>578334113
>>578334251
>>578334427
Bros how come our win streaks don't last forever???
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I just don't know what i'm doing wrong on Venator, the character just feels like it does no damage. With Wraith, Infernus, Seven you farm and shred people. I can be 50k on Venator and it still feels like i'm shooting blanks
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>>578334856
yeah it procs at the end of the ult. so if you fail and the ult timer runs out, or when you reach the doorway
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>>578335117
You have to pretend you are Abrams and wall slam people if you want to get kills.
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>>578334932
its not about winstreaks lasting forever
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>>578334113
>>578334251

>80% winrate
>the sample? 5 games


>>578335117
Post build and I’ll tell you to build more firerate
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>>578334620
After reading more about it just now I'm actually More on their homotheory side.
It's about as solid as anything else in this lore, which is to say, Not Very, but Kinda.
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>>578335117
venator sucks, thats why. hes an ult bot
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>>578320836
>>578326502
>>578326835
Tested it. Unstoppable takes priority and does not waste Indom until Unstoppable ends obviously.
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>Tank character has the lowest health growth in the game
Bravo, Yoshi
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>>578335429
why are you capitalizing random words
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>>578335686
If you're talking about Victor he has two health bars
Hope that helps
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ultra lategame gun ivy, should i sell active reload?
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>>578335724
don't read the first letter of every capitalised word
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>>578335479
>hes an ult bot
That's for the best imo
>>578335724
Autistic need to emphasize, I don't want my tone or cadence misconstrued over text
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>>578335781
Silver
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>>578335983
Are you sure? You would lose half your DPS if you did that?
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>>578336259
Yeah well she just sucks man
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>>578336259
Marksman, not a brawler
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Phantom Strike is such an underrated item
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if urn spawns in my lane and both guardians are still up bc it's just a slow lane or whatever is it worth giving up lane pressure to run it or do i stay and keep laning/pressuring guardian/whatever
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>>578336259
ERM YOU JUST SUCK BRO YOU JUST DON'T HAVE HANDS
All those high elo players who supposedly have hands? They don't pick her either
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>>578336415
Yet she gets placed on this in lieu of an actual tank, SO
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SILVER IS S TIERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>578336654
She's actually S+++tier
Delusional downplayer, just tank with the lowest bottom 5 HP pool what could go wrong?
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>>578336614
The matchmaking gave you no tank, it did not give you silver as the tank
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Have they fixed the upskirt censors yet?
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>skirtschizo is back
do not engage
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>>578336987
not a porn game
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im stomping low elo with gun ivy
but i understand its not viable in higher elo? should i start learning "actual" ivy now?
my elo is so low people dont do sinners
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>>578336926
Cope
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>>578336987
Install gooner mods if you need that.
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>>578337278
>my elo is so low people dont do sinners
that's all ranks below oracle
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>>578316146
explain why I shouldn't buy EE on spirit abrams
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>>578337368
You shouldn't be playing spirit abrams to begin with beyond getting your spirit spike
You are trolling
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>>578337294
I accept your concession
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>>578336235
>I don't want my tone or cadence misconstrued over text
you're making your tone more confusing
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>>578337590
See >>578337294
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>>578337589
Not true. You're provably wrong. Take a look at this
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>>578337631
Pls
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>AI overview
>reddit
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>>578336514
>See Silver Troons whining about their shitty overpowered hero they can't play
>No, I don't play Silver how can you tell?
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This game NEEDS role selection like Dota
I am so fucking tired of supports going gun or just not buying utility at all
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>>578337786
Fact checked: True, by real Abrams patriots.
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>>578338271
There are no supports retard you can gun Paige to eternus
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>>578337786
holy fuck please be ragebait
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>>578338561
Escalating Exposure 60% wr on Abrams btw
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>Game gives you silver as the only frontliner
gg go next
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Had the most aggravating teeth pulling standard match.
>enemy victor is 1-22 20 mins in
>he's just shoving lanes to objectives on respawn
>comm this and tell the 3 fucking people at that lane to stop him
>everyone, not just those 3, on the map chases him
>lose all lanes
>after we lose friends talk about how OP Victor is or how they dont understand what they did wrong
>for the first time in decades get the urge to punch something

We had a 60k soul lead at some point and still lost btw.
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>>578336235
>I don't want my tone or cadence misconstrued over text
all typing like that does is make everyone (correctly) assume you're autistic and disregard the entire post
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>>578331495
>play abrams
>rush magic carpet
>TFW casually flying away from a shocked and befuddled 3 man gank that 100% should have killed me
>TFW flying around a building, wario charging a flying nigdicta into a wall and heavy meleeing her for half her health
>TFW lash frantically using movement skills to try and escape as I fly after him like pepe le pew
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>>578339146
This is an unreleased MOBA general on the Mongolian basket weaving forum- which is dying. Autism is a prerequisite for posting
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>>578304494
silver cant stay on the map without it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKtSzqx9i8&list=RDD-YDxawbogA&index=2
i need heroes for this vibe and ivy doesnt count
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Start buying tank buster on holiday
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Bored. Build's probably shit but I dunno I'd like to have a gun that can deal damage and an ult that can shred. Probably some things that could be improved.
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>>578339350
weird projection
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>>578339774
Upvoted!
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-idea-the-exile-holliday-if-she-tank-axe-taunt-jagi-from-hnk.158011/

DING DING DING

your axe function custom kit is ready sir
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i main haze and venator
what's my stereotype
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>>578340293
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>>578340293
headclicker
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Low priority is unironically more fun than regular MM queue
There are no forced 50/50s, and skill based MM algo whatever is thrown out the window, so you're often playing against total initiate nubs
which means the game actually feels like it's rewarding you for getting better at it instead of you feeling like you're plateauing (wooooow)
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How does paradox
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>>578330734
Carrieed
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>>578335117
i feel like venator does pretty good damage and is very, very strong in close range
and he's definitely less flexible than those carries but after spellslinger+vamp burst you just melt people
his biggest obstacle is getting into that <18m range
do you use the OG default health bars or one of the new ones?
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>>578341057
LEAVE SILVER ALONE!
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>>578340909
lowelo stomper with carbine spirit meme since no one builds spell breaker because of L>R
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>>578340839
>the game is only fun when i'm noobstomping
yeah that's about what i'd expect from a "forced 50/50" poster
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>>578338561
You need to get over ai my dude, it’s not going anywhere, it’s only getting better. Fighting it will only set you behind
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You guys ever stall a lost rift?
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>>578341257
Kek
Bot reply
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>>578340979
yes carried by nigger drifter whom i force to play this shit game with me
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>Team starts reddit-quipping
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i wish titanic upgraded into something
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>1/18 Wraith won because it just so happen that she got Victor on her team
So cool!
Victor is so balanced!
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>>578335117
>>578341057
He does good damage, he just is easily overwhelmed by enemies because and his damage is only single target for the most part. Early game he's the strongest person on the map with his ult up. Late game if you get your chance to shoot you do good sustained damage.

Also wraith, haze, infernus, and the other carries have extras to m1 damage. Venator is purely gun
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>>578341559
The unions fought power tools when they came out, then lost market share because the non retards we’re building twice as fast

Same thing happening now
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I have never died more than 5 times in a game because once I hit 5 deaths I concede and stop playing until the game ends
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>>578341057
>having to use all your abilities to kill the weakest hero in the game
heh... she won
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I got in a ranked match where the enemy team had Billy, Abrams and Shiv and i genuinely don't know how you win against that in pubs. We were getting purely statchecked all game from them just having these 3 invincible motherfuckers holding W at us. With good coordination sure i think you could do something but in pubs as soon as they get close your formation breaks and everyone just starts running for their lives
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yamato gameplay is the best. you just go in on niggas, no retreat, 1v6 the entire enemy team
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>>578342237
Really different, also I wasn't even the same anon.
But keep coping and sucking off shitCo Inc
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mfw seven tells silver she doesn't know her dad

https://youtu.be/c1ukaJUHSvY?si=acf7V_4z1cMi_Hpk
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>>578342423
Its called FUCKING ANTIHEAL
ANTIHEAL!!!!!!!!!
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>>578342423
parry
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>>578337278
you're breaking through the gaslighting
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>>578337278
what's your build?
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>first mvp with Doorman
>first clean kda with Doorman
Sure, I got fed by a noob Victor in lane, but the fact that I didn't chase any stupid plays and just tried to keep my farm up after feeling strong is huge progress for a retard like me
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You should lose less points for getting key player on a loss. Yoshi has to be the dumbest blackest gorilla nigger dev to ever exist. You said this guy was in charge of DOTA 2 and then when he left it got better right? Meaning this game is doomed to be shit until Valve hires a competent dev to work on this game, correct?
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>>578343038
Very proud of you anon, now assume the position for your reward
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>Haze player with 800 dmg in the laning phase to my 6k
Damn no wonder it felt like I was 1v2ing that shit, won in the end because Haze afk farms 1.5x the souls of everyone else in the lobby
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doorman and mo and krill should be doing no damage with the amount of cc they have innately
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>>578342891
titan + active reload + cap + headhunter + silencer+ inhib + metal skin + spellbreaker+ colossus + siphon + jugg
in my low elo, i genuinely dont die unless i dive and troll
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so if i'm strafing and have to dash forward, it's going to kill my momentum from pressing w?
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>>578343303
says who
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>>578343303
Get em mo
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>>578343303
if anything they should buff bells now that door is nerfed
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>>578343397
says me the god of video games
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Why is split pushing so much harder in this game than in Dota even though that game has fucking teleport scrolls and Deadlock doesn't?
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>>578343669
It's easy if you have teammates who can distract the enemy for a bit. But it gets harder the higher you rank up because you'll have someone IAD across the map to stop your push.
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>>578343669
Because everyone can dash across the map in 12 seconds and yoshi nerfed split pushing repeatedly for some reason.
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Give me 6 good reasons why I shouldn't rush Inhibitor + Ricochet on literally every single character.
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>>578343925
Graves
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>>578342632
Dogshit version.
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can they add agh's to this game
>6400 spirit item
>imbue the selected non-ultimate ability to make it act one level higher than it currently is
>if the ability is at maximum level, it gains new properties depending on the imbued skill
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>Don't get my character
>Play like shit
Yup, I'm boosted
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This poor billy
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>>578343498
they should buff his gun instead
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>>578343925
because you should be rushing silencer + ricochet instead
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>>578344220
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>>578331372
I have never had a good Mina on my team. Enemy Minas just seem to have triple the damage even if the builds are roughly the same.
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>>578343925
It unironically free 60% winrate if you are the only one in game doing it. It is better to just do it with an on hit tho
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i cant take it anymore
get this unicorn out of my games
YOSHI
WAKE UP
PLEASE
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>>578344496
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>578341195
I accept your concession.
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>>578340293
BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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>>578345072
damn, 50 minutes for a cope that doesn't even make sense
unlucky dude, guess you gotta blame your team now right
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>>578345315
I accept your projection and concession.
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>>578345410
zzz cope seethe etc etc
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>>578340293
depressed gamer dad. is doing their side lane thing silently aside from an utterly defeated sigh after allied billy dies 1v3 for the 9th time in midgame. just wants to play the game after getting home from the ol 9-5
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>play in 2024 around time first whispers / keys are being handed out
>ditch somewhere shortly after public started up
>get back last winter and play nothing but brawl since
>worried ill be ass in real games
>holy shit im carrying so hard
>100% winrate ||on graves||
>people are THIS braindead?

dunno why i was worried. im gonna make it boys. 60 games to ranked here i come.
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Bellman or barrelday?
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>>578346598
Bells
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>>578346403
>||
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I got calibrated to seeker 2 and I've won 15 games in a row since calibration. These games are incredibly easy. I feel like my calibration was wrong.
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Just commended a Bebop as Lash, is that sacrilege?
We had an honourable fistfight inside a veil it felt appropriate
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>>578345169
>Abrams/ Billy
>Massive Gap
>The rest of them
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>>578347190
No lash?
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>>578346598
Bellman does way more damage and slows
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>>578347297
Fucker would be too annoying in bed.
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>5 win streak on THE LASH
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm BACK
>>578346403
Ctrl+S to spoiler shit, newfag
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>>578347394
mmm. You're right.
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Paradox feels like a soft int pick so does mirage
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Have a pocket billy before you go into ranked.
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>>578347723
I don't play any tanks tho
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>>578347803
He does damage too anon
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>>578346403
is spamming brawl an actual cheat code to getting better at the game?
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>>578347860
Doesn't matter I don't play any tanks unless you count Silver, but even her I don't play anymore because she SUCKS
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i am a forced 50 agent
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>>578347860
If my Billy goes dps I’m afking
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>>578340293
Is the game fixed yet or not
Last time I played it was just tank/bruiser statcheck aids for the first 20 minutes and then m1 statcheck leukemia for the last 20
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if i just want to build green and orange which deadlocks are for me?
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>>578347930
It's purely mechanical but even then it's kinda mickey because you're almost never fighting real builds/with real builds.
You also learn no movement, no macro, etc.
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>>578347947
>unless you count silver

I don’t, as she is a marksman
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>>578348064
Venator
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>>578348114
No one cares about your shitty API site, jeet. Queue Silver and you will get designated tank by the matchmaker.
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>>578348064
Venator and that’s it, unless you are ok with getting 4.8k purple then a couple more are available
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>>578348214
i want to have fun in the game even when my ult is on cd though
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>>578348217
It’s not the api site, it’s the api(from valve). It’s official and canon
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I'm through.
Being bad at this game means you just get to do nothing, nothing is allowed if you don't want to get ganked by five guys, you just get to watch the respawn timer while your team screams at you.
I don't need this, there's no point, i don't even play premade so there's an entire part of the game i'll never get to experience anyway.
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>>578348384
Then make some simple code to extract it yourself with something simple like FastAPI and show it to me, then I'll believe you.
Reply with anything else I'll accept your concession
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>>578348064
gun holliday
gun yamato
and that's all
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So why does GAY TALON have 50% more Spirit Growth per Boon than 90% of the cast?
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>>578344220
>already leading in souls
>solo walker and solo kill
Billy basically threw the whole game in that one instance
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Getting real tired of "support" players that don't buy a single active to counter the enemy team
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How do I into Apollo?
He seems like fun and I am willing to bet one of those fuckers who when played well just destroys the enemies will to play
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>>578348801
>How do I into Apollo
Be homosexual
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I love the shadow fed who clicks on your head until you're ded.
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aimslop ruined deadlock
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>>578348076
I may just be retarded, but learning the macro in this game stumps me so bad
makes me feel like I've solved the rubik's cube, only to find I only really color-matched only one side out of four, and actually solved nothing
all the informational guides I've looked up are either kinda ass or just outdated
maybe I should just stick to being a permanent street brawler
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anonymous ruined deadlock
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Me and my trusty hammer will give you a deadcock.
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>add seasons
>add seasonal resets
>make them grindy
>make it impossible to derank so the matchmaking stays dogshit
>add no seasonal rewards
What's the incentive to grind out 500 games a season with the worst matchmaking known to man?
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should i buy cap on ivy if im buying actual support items?
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>>578349206
Macro is pretty universal between mobas. Only the jungle really changes between games, so you can probably look at other games if you don't really find any sufficient guides for Deadlock.
Shove waves
Look for plays
Clear jungle in downtime
Use your map
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>Be Ritualist IV
>Enter a ranked match
>My team is two oracles four ritualists
>Enemy team is six ritualists
>Cool this one should be good
>We lose all our tier 1 towers before 8 minutes
>lose our first walker at 12
>Game is a 50k soul lead stomp
I just don't know anymore man. This was my 30th ranked match after my placements, and i'm still Ritualist IV. I literally have not moved rank in 30 games. I must be the worst player in the world i guess
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>>578348727
i've debated picking up paige just so i can become the active item counterbuy merchant
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>>578349206
All the macro is based around pushing waves, look at the map while you push and try to judge how far you can go before someone shows up to stop you, and what you're likely to be able to do about it.
Depending on how the enemy team responds you can take your pick of solokilling the poor scrub who tries to stop your push, backing off and farming back to your side of the map, or rotating to another lane to take advantage of the space you've created.
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>decides to buy active item buyer support god
>no one in the team can actually carry or make use of the situations
whats the point
just gun gun gun gun unless you are playing with friends
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>>578349705
Playing support soloqueue is just coinflipping in any competitive game
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>>578348727
>I'm a carry
>paige starts doing the mid T3 camp
>they shield me
>think "oh they want me to do the camp with them"
>do the camp with them
>russian voice starts crying down mic "BRO WHAT THE FUCK WHY YOU TAKE MY FARM"
>they're doing gun paige
>even after I explain I misunderstood the situation they're insanely salty "WHY WHY YOU TAKE MY FARM WHY WHAT WRRRONG WITH YOU"
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Which mains are the most likely to be balding?
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I fucking hate laning so much
I just get raped to death every time
even by rems
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items feel completely impenetrable

what to choose, when, and why feels completely out of my reach game to game, even on characters I think I understand.

Let's take lash for example-

Lots of build include headshot items, and while some lean into slam damage, and some have tons of mobility items. cool, okay.

Let's say I really like mobility. what items should i pick up, and when? should i get majestic leap in lane so i can rotate quicker when i roam?

should i buy an egg and cash it in for a quick magic carpet?

should i buy cheaper items in lane and save things like Majestic Leap for later?

Can I buy items to boost Lash's melee damage instead of spirit to throw the enemy team off guard if they all buy spirit resist and counterspell?

honestly I just don't know where to start with items, but I want to learn
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>>578350562
Mina 100%
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Most fair comp diff
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>>578347632
Only if you do carbine build
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Still no patch? Are we deadass? How long am I going to have my games decided by whoever has this fucking tranny self insert unicorn OC bro
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>>578350814
On Lash if you're new you just want gun spike then a few greens and full spirit
Mystic Shot + Headhunter
Rejuv Locket + Stamina
Rest spirit
>but why
Knock up let's you pretty much guarantee Mystic Shot + Headhunter hitting after a 1. Rejuv Locket and Stamina both give you more stamina, which Lash benefits from because he 1. wants to be in the air as much as possible and 2. restores stamina with his 2. The spirit items are pretty self explanatory, I feel. Some cooldown, some area. The usual.
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lol this game is so shit why can't the human race make a SINGLE good shooter game please
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>>578351198
there have been plenty
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I just don't see an yfucking poitn in continuing to play when I'm 1-7 and die to fucking everything instantly
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>>578351370
So do your team a favour and leave so they don't have to sit with the loss from your useless ass.
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Went on a losing streak. Knew I shouldn't have played on no sleep.
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>come on bro we can still win even though we're down 50k at 20 minutes!
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>>578351579
you unironically can people throw in this game all the fucking time
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>>578351579
I never ever fucking give up. I fight until the last seconds suck my dick you whiny baby
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>>578351370
if you're 1-7 you need to play way safer

even if you've fed 7 kills to an enemy player, if you just focus on pushing waves safely and not dying, you're already helping a lot more than you would be not playing at all of continuing to feed.

all that time you spent dead was time you weren't generating souls, but if you stay alive and farm you can come back in no time.

If you're not interested in ever being at a disadvantage i recommend playing a single player game
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>>578351893
that's actually greifing. if the rest of your team has given up and you extend the game for 5+ more minutes you're literally holding everyone hostage
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>>578348727
frontliners can afford to purchase healbane + situational counter (usually slowing hex)
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>>578351997
Good
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>>578350656
Stay behind cover
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Feel like a lot of the people bitching about the balance forget the game has a private closed-beta client with daily updates that is what the team ACTUALLY uses to try out new heroes, mechanics, reworks, etc. before pushing them to the main-beta client. The shit you're complaining about nobody noticing is usually already on its seventh revision to try out tweaks on that and they're just waiting for enough solid fixes to pile up to push a normal update.

But I guess with the majority of the leakers successfully purged from it that's to be expected, there's barely been even a peep about what the next major content update or item update are gonna be aside from datamining finds the last 7ish months.
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>>578351370
When you're that far behind the best thing you can do is be the designated lane janny who makes sure the walkers don't get pushed without ever going past the halfway mark to avoid getting jumped and splattered again. Helps you catch up and lets your teammates who are less behind try do something without that pressure on them.

After that is making sure you show up to team fights and shit out whatever CC you have + your ult before you explode.
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i have a 0% wr on wraith
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>>578352454
me too (pickrate is also 0%)
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>>578315723
A real Apollo would ult four full health enemies and call Abrams a bigger (slang for blue ixian) while doing it
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so while everyone is whining about celeste, viper is going 14-3 in every lobby right
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>>578351370
ended 4-9
sorry for shitting up the thread
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>>578352628
Sorry im bricklow she just does that mivement thing then dies
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>>578352628
I've honestly not seen much of Vyper being OP in Oracle. Celeste however is fucking horseshit bullshit whoreshit
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>>578352643
Did you win?
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>>578352236
>have secret closed-beta in your closed-beta game
>game balance is still complete dogshit
working as intended
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>>578352628
Hate wraith more
Wraith doesn't have as good of a lane but has far better split push potential
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>>578352838
yeah!
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Doorman is by far my best character, its my favorite character, i've loved him from the day he was released, i have 200+ games on him but guess what, i can never actually play the fucking character in ranked because he's banned in 90% of the matches. Nice fucking system i guess, i should have mained Billy or some other braindead character, fuck me for wanting to play something interesting
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>>578352628
that's what happens when you mess with V, baby!
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>open deadlock
>haze and billy somehow feed seven so hard he gets unstoppable and EE
>game ends in 25 mins
>close deadlock
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wow i love deadlock very fun very cool game thanks valve
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>>578352628
Vyper is strong but not tanky and her style of mobility is much easier to counter
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>>578353098
but at least you don't feel bad about deranking, the system is working as intended.
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>>578352628
Difference is Vyper only does damage
Whereas Celeste does MORE damage, and usually has 50k healing too.
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>>578353098
>play PvP game
>Sometimes lose
WOW!
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>>578353098
Its the weekend
at least thats the cope I told myself
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>>578353328
I've already deranked like eight times, i just win and get both shields back then lose 3 more times then win and get shields back ad infinitum
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>>578353464
>go 1-7
>maintain rank
WOW!
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>>578276284
Phantom strike is probably good here but I don't play the Freelo zombie.
Usually you don't build disarming hex on carries but sometimes the right item just wins games.
I could even see suppressor being good, but most Victors ignore tempo items
>>578308650
Can't you just throw the deadheads at him?
They even do spirit damage so they ignore his free 55% bullet resist
>>578336259
Why would a bounty hunter or a wolf be a tank? Do you know what either are?
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Why is pausing in the game? Why does it take 5 full fucking minutes for the game to terminate after someone leaves?
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>>578354016
>Why would a bounty hunter or a wolf be a tank? Do you know what either are?
NTA but this has to be the most retarded post I've seen in a while
Why would a punk or a goat be a tank? Do you know what either are?
Why would a zombie or a man be a tank? Do you know what either are?

Like what are we doing man
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I hate the faggots who play this game. Sorry for linking reddit or whatever but look at this fucking post

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1vubnmw/flaming_struggling_teammates_will_lose_you_games/

>The moment a teammate does anything even slightly wrong, they will get flamed or even sabotaged out of spite.

Its not SLIGHTLY wrong. If i'm calling you a nigger and telling you to kill yourself its because NOTHING you fucking do is correct. You're actively throwing the game away. It wouldn't matter if i didn't say anything because you already fucked us all over, you already caused me to lose my time, lose my rank, lose my fucking patience. Good players never get flamed, you know what? Because they're not retarded. If you're being called a useless subhuman piece of trash in the game its because you are one and should consider uninstalling instead of making me lose my fucking time
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>>578354179
I accept your concession.
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>>578354243
>Good players never get flamed
lol
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>>578354423
Two for two on retarded posts. Gratz buddy
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fucking mina
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>>578354179
>goat
Literally ram into things all day
>punks
tankies :^)
>zombie
already dead
>man
Generally people are allowed to fill any role in a game because people relate to people

For Silver: wolves hunt and bounty hunters hunt. The character should be made to hunt.
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>>578354541
>Literally ram into things all day
And this makes him a tank, why?
>already dead
And this makes him a tank, why? Why isn't Vindicta a tank? Seven? Kelvin?
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>>578354243
I try to be nice. But yeah when they're 1/12 and running around enemy jungle 29 minutes in, I'm calling them names. They couldn't int more if they tried at that point.

But I always try to be constructive. I tell them what to do to stop being a griefing faggot, so you can't tell me I didn't try
>show your struggling teammates the help you’d expect if the shoe was on the other foot
If I'm ever doing 1/12 on a carry I fully expect, even welcome, insult and beration but I'm not subhuman enough to manage that.

The post you linked talks about how "erm your struggling teammate is was taking risks! That's how you win". There are objectives in this game, you want to take a risk? Go to the fucking rift fight. God I hate reddit.

If someone is flaming over nothing (usually theyre russian blaming you for their own mistake) I just insult them and if they don't shut up I just mute and move on.
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>you will never feel graves hot breath on your lips as you lean in for your first kiss
its over.
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>>578354736
>And this makes him a tank, why?
Goats have to tank the rams of other rams.
>why isn't Vindicta a tank
Because a ghost would have to be an evasion tank which is big gay
>Seven
Liches are undead, but don't serve the same meatshield role as zombies
>kelvin
kind of is a tank desu. Can certainly be hard to kill
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Please euthanize every single faggot who plays Rem. These were his stats for a 32 minute game. He died over and over trying to escape into the tunnels while taking damage, something he somehow didn't know he couldn't do despite having at least 15 wins on the character to be able to play ranked on him. Every single fucking time Rem is on your team its a complete lobotomite while on the enemy team its some dude who constantly steals all your sinners, autopushes every lane, ends the game with 60k+ healing and has four active items with superior duration. Every single fucking time
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>>578355159
>Goats have to tank the rams of other rams.
And that makes him a tank, how? Every male animal fights other males for dominance, even wolves.
>uhm actually those are different, because... they are!
*yawn*
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>>578355578
Its okay to not understand themes or tropes. Nothing to be upset about
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>>578355795
>no argument
Concession accepted



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