Out to Pasture Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>578355292
>retarded venator decides to stay behind to kill celeste instead of doing midboss after huge fight on enemy blue walker>dies (obviously)>loses us the gameCan we just fucking nuke all of Eastern Europe already. Like come the fuck on
What's the most fun hero?
>>578455640Slowing hex doesn't do shit because debuff remover is insanely overpowered specifically ON the heroes that would be hurt by slowing hex and are supposed to be balanced solely by the purchase of that kind of itemSame thing happens with knockdownDebuff remover is a great needed item but then the deadlock team in their infinite retardation made absolute bullshit like Mina and Apollo carrying on the mistakes of Lash so now not only you need to catch them but then hit them with the counter item (which can be disjointed) and then hope they don't have the dispel which they always buy because it covers their one weakness, so at the absolute least you need multiple of these counter items to deal with ONE hero and that only works if that one hero fucks up AND your team has really good coordination.Much like everything wrong in this game there was a good base design and then some retarded DEI hires came in and took a fat shit on it.
>faggot loser crack ship trans op image
>>578456009Second for apollo is my favourite hero in the game
>>578456217shadow weaver drifter is so fun but whenever i try to play him the entire enemy team decides to play as 6 and my team applies 0 pressure to the map
>>578456217Grey Talon
>Lash untouched>Wraith untouched>Vyper untouched>Ivy untouched>Dynamo untouched>every other OP hero NOT TOUCHEDWhat can we do about this?
>>578456245debuff remover should be 6400
>celeste abusing an item too hard>shiv and geist nerfed instead for using the same item
>>578456245this is my biggest issue with the game right now. they aren't balancing around characters or even the mechanic of the game. they are balancing around items and its blatantly obvious. "just slowing hex" but then then they dispel it and on top of that its now on cooldown for the other 3-5 characters on the team that ALSO need to slowing hex. and thats just one example
>>578456497rape yoshit and hotpoo to 80s respawn with hammers
this game fucking sucks, I miss 2024
>>578456601>>578456754i want to abuse curren instead
>>578456497pray for a company that actually has people that know what they're doing and actually has passion for their game and it comes out and kills deadcock before release
this game fucking sucks, I miss pre-march 6th patch
>item update next week>adds legendary items to ranked
>>578456497They just need to nerf Lash's gun scaling. But knowing Yoshi he's going to nerf everything but that.
god I love street brawl
>>578456857I miss being able to play Doorrman.
Sex with Ivy!
>>578456245>>578456686You need multiple slowing hexes and yes it works holy shit my rat bros. I get it's tough at the low ranks and none of your teammates will cast it intelligently but in my oracle games we just chain slowing hex the shiv and apollo then rape them
>>578457912>you need ATLEAST 4 slowing hexes to maybe kill 2 characters with dispel. probably more because good luck bursting down apollo or shivwhat a great observation dude
Anyone else feel like antiheal doesn't do much?
>>578458064>ummm this 1600 cheap ass item is so effective but we wont build it because a 3200 item counters it onceretard
>>578457912People barely even buy them in actual non shitlow (phantom) anymore, they basically HAVE to rush phantom strike or counterpick.
>>578458121>strawmanlmao
yoshi got the wrong idea when he tried to nerf walljumps and hyper mobility and thought we all love it when certain heros are untouchable without (multiple) slowing hex.
>>578458104spirit burn is massive, healbane is not very noticeable but it still helps a fair bitTo verify if it's useful check your healing prevented after the game on statlocker (not sure if super accurate)
>>578458104Whenever I play Victor it sometimes feels like antiheal does nothing and other times I just fold immediately to it, shit makes no sense to me
>>578458254I have no idea what your argument is but if it's that slowing hex isnt good then youre an actual baboon i'm sorry
>>578458193reminder ivy has been a top tier pick in top ranks since release and the ivy mafia still downplays her every patch as she gets away with murder
>>578458421>I have no idea what your argument is you're a genuine fucking retard if this is true
>>578456601Radiant Regen as item is just cancerous.
>>578458481I'm not the one in seeker complaining about how slowing hex is countered by dispel (an item twice it's cost)
does return fire even do anything
>>578458653not really no
borgor
>>578458712it used tothen "it" happened
>>578458310its because of stacking antiheals, not just one. One healbane doesnt ruin you, the crippling+decay+healbane+scourge does.
>>578458653very good against low IQ wraiths (95% of them) because they will hold down the trigger when they ult you
>>578458735but graves is a girl
>>578458646dispel counters everything, that's the problemyou're doing the exact same thing that was mentioned here:>>578456686It's a well designed item EXCEPT for the heroes that abuse the shit out of it as that removes the one thing that's supposed to balance them, it has been a problem multiple times, looking at item prices in a vacuum is absurdly retarded and that's why you're probably like an oracle 2 shitter acting like he's eternus 6 and has any clue of what the fuck he's talking about
>>578458646never complained about it being countered you troglodyte, the cusp of the argument was character balance around items. But you wouldn't know that because "I have no idea what your argument is"fucking tard monkey
>>578458653>>578458712since it deals pre-mitigation damage it reliably kills viper if shes blind and holds down M1 anyways
>>578458771>get ulted by wraith>80% of my hp is card nuke damage
>>578458829That's a fair argument but the game is about items and money it's not marvel rivals go play overwatch or something cause interaction between items is the appeal>>578458950still 25% reflected
>my ranked experiecne: win win win, loss, win win win win win, loss, win>now 100 measly points to rank up into oracle>win, loss, win, loss 10 times in rowIt's not even subtle. My win games always look winnable from the start. My loss games I have the team that is like 3 ranks lower than the enemy and a russian who goes 3/15 while calling everyone botsIt's gotten so bad I recognise the names of ELO potion teammates and 50/50 assassins. My win games? The good player is on my team, next game he's on the enemy team, the next game the same player is BACK on my team. It's retarded
>UNDER 25 minute celeste rape matchyeah this character is fucking retarded
>>578456497Nothing. The dev team picks favorites and we could have 100% of the people call out this shit as broken, but they won't care.
you should be allowed to move and dash and jump and use your abilities and shoot and parry like normal while asleepbut that's just my opinion
>>578459265you found the rank you belong in, the system works :^)
>>578459034I dont care about the items bro, its the characters being made/balanced around the items themselves that is the issue. this whole issue wasn't a problem until hotpoo starting making character like mina, celeste, apollo where these characters are balanced around the whole idea of slowing hex which should never be the case. Add in going back and balancing character like shiv around his dash being the main force of damage and shred and now slowing hex is nearly required by every character in every game because "just slowing hex dude". and thats just an example of item balancing issues. characters like seven and dynamo have their Ults balanced around being stunned by shit like knockdown. once they buy unstoppable they just win the game. even more so dynamos have now started buying cheat death so he cant just let it rip and not even care if he dies because if he does he still gonna keep black holing
>>578459265so friend the good player and shit stomp people
Played five more games today, lost all of them as my team kept feeding. Had a game where i killed Infernus four times in lane as Venator, went 9/1 but then my team started feeding infernus in the midgame and since kills then are worth 5x more he just got 10k ahead of me in nert worth since i couldn't outfarm my team's feeding. I sure hate this fucking game
>>578457739
Just make a nerf everyone patch to correct the buff everyone patch
>Nerf ability by X>Buff T2 for ability by X+1Not everything needs compensation
Anyone down for some standard matches before my shift?
All they needed to do was cut Celeste's 1 debuff timer by half, problem solved. Also force her to actually, you know, aim her gun in order to be effective.
>>578460292And kill the dev responsible for Exploding Uppercut.
Gun Vindicta is braindead easy why has nobody said anything about this? I'm putting 50% of the effort to get way better results than any other character
i want to learn a new hero, who do you recommend based off of who i play?
>>578460730Because her whole playstyle gets countered by a single item (phantom strike)
>>578460730Vindicta in a vacuum is countered by phantom strike so she's considered shit by most streamers. Ignoring the fact that 80% of the time there's 4-5 other people you gotta get through before you get to her.
>>578461032getting hard dumpstered by a single item (that she cannot itemize against) is basically condemning her to shit tier. Even a complete monkey retard can click Phantom Strike and render the hero entirely useless.
>>578460904>>578461032What if you just disarmed them back? You could even buy warpstone + disarming hex for the same investment
>>578456009kys shipper tranny
>>578461032>teammate feeds vindicta like 10+ stacks in lane alone somehow>complains at me I'm not just insta mo ulting her people forget that a vindicta is going to be constantly surrounded by a teammate or two if not their whole team as they deathball around. Like at best I'll be able to stun the vindicta for 1.5 seconds and then they just wipe our team afterwards.
>>578461193>disarm the abrams that just phantom struck you>he charges you into a wall and melees anyway
>>578461152>getting hard dumpstered by a single itemDamn guess everyone is actual dogshit tier cause curse exists.
>>578461032most of us are playing with random matchmaking teammates who will not stand in the way for you, thus making vindicta pretty bad.
>>578458104antiheal is trolling, don't buy any ever. there's a reason it's missing from most l->r
>>578461314or silence wave depending on who gets phantom strike.You could even get >>578461321 and both be useless for a while
>>578461321fastest intellectual disability diagnosis ive ever seen
What character needs the BIGGEST and MOST amount of buffs in your opinion? For me it's Kelvin, Mina, Bebop, Graves and Viscous.
>>578460904>>578461152Indomitable and warp stone solve this with ease
>>578461797>Mina
>>578461854bricklo spotted
>>578461846thank you for outing yourself as a brick
is celeste actually a tranny programmer on the team's self insert transbian fantasy or is that just a meme someone made dunking on the poor balancing of the character
>>578461797i dont think any character needs buffs, the majority of the cast vastly needs nerfs
>>578456217I don't care about playing fun heroes. I care about playing anti-fun heroes.
>>578461937its the only explanation for why this hero gets super ultra speshul anti-gravity built into her kit for free that allows her to server admin at minute 0 and also never receives any substantive nerf ever. Theyre clearly a dev favorite and Yoshi is either the perpetrator or complicit.
>>578461937Hopoo and yoshi(icefrog) visited 4chan at some point they're chuds they would never work with a troon
the worst part about all this is that celeste will get another slap on the wrist while other cancer heroes like Kelvin and Ivy will get to roam free for another patch because Yoshi is a blind nigger that can only see one problem at a time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexGBfG8Ud4Deathy likes talking about "muh good mental" so much but its such a fake ass conversation. He flames his teammates just the same, except he's not flaming them to the other teammates, he's doing it quietly to thousands of people in his chat, which is somehow meant to be better. I mean look at this match, his team is playing poorly and he just gets to micromanage them. Why? Because he's playing with actual humans in his rank and he's famous. Of course everyone is going to listen to him, he's Deathy. If i try to open my mic in my games and tell people "go for picks, midboss spawns in 30 don't die" i'm just going to get zero response into people entering the enemy jungle alone and dying. Its really easy to talk about "muh mental" when you're a performative faggot who gets money for playing the game. The only reason he's not flaming people in game like the rest of us is because he has too much to lose.
>>578462056>super ultra speshul anti-gravity built into her kit for freeI just don't understand why this is even a thing. Vyper has 1/4th of her abilities taken up by her special movement but Celeste just doesn't.
>>578461716The point being her getting countered by a t4 item isn't something special only to her and it doesn't magically make her bad.
>>578460638Yes, we should change it into imploding uppercut that does %max health true damage
>another "-5 spirit on [ability]; now T3 also gives +7 spirit" sort of balance patchthey need to fire the team already
I HATE STANDARD I HATE STANDARD I HATE STANDARD I HATE STANDARD
>>578461032and slowing hex counters apollo shiv calico etc but that's only a 1600 item? What's your point stupid ass nigga yes when you get outplayed you die she has huge damage
>>578461918>mina needs buffscasual spotted
>no vyper nerfs>no lash nerfs>no wraith nerfsnigger ass devs nothing actually changed
>>578463227did i not tell you to put on a trip
>>578463108wtf dlg told me gun ivy was good what is this!?
>>578461918>>578461797If you actually think mina needs buffs you need to uninstall this game you shitlow ass dookie nigga.
>I must refuse, anon. I only date Black men.How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>578461213i ship me x your mom
>>578463281what the fuck are you talking about
>>578462736curse hits everyone equally so this is a non argumentPhantom strike removes vindictas best ability and only defensive option, turns off her gun, and also puts the 6000 HP frontliner directly in her face where she is powerless to stop him from killing her. No other hero gets gigaraped this hard by an item, which questions why you would ever want to pick her in the first place.
yeah let me just spend 6400 souls to counter one character
>>578463520You are just shit at the game if you are losing to phantom strike youre bad simple as
>>578458434The difference is that Ivy is honest and simply picked by players who are good, thus the win rate.
>>578463520This isn't 2024 anymore even if someone like abrams phantom strikes her she can still get away because of HP inflation.
>>578463613Finally, the brickoid is learning how to play the game.
>>578463720anon high ttk meta ended months ago
>>578463720it happened in reverse though, fat heroes got their HP inflated but squishies remained squishy
>>578464063you weren't there manyou could pick up two gun items in lane and kill someone in a few secondsit was glorious
missed carbine and swap see you later
>>578463520You forgot the fact that it's practically unreactable. You literally have to hard read your opponent to counter phantom strike
Start going transcendent cooldown + superior duration on Carbinedox for perma stealth and carbine
>>578462543based if true
>>578463108You won retard, why are you complaining
>>578464205i did play during 500 spirit infuser infernus leech tank meta. saying that vindicta can shrug off phantom strike is big cope
>>578459789you're complaining about item balancing in a vacuum. if the big spirit nukers have to build dispel, that's still a win for your team because they are slowing their ramping nuke damage for a 3200 green. it's also only a single use dispel, so multiple active CC buyers on your team actively fucks them over.>but seven and dynamo can buy t4 greens to end the gameyes, because the game isn't balanced like dota 2 into going on indefinitely. this game already has stuff like silence wave and silencer to lock those guys down before they can unstoppable in position too
>>578463448>>578463448>Come say hi!>You got something on you mate!>Bombs away!
>>578464801Game should've been over 15-20 minutes earlier if my team would only listen and not feed permanently in their jungle
>DUDE ALL HEROES ARE WEAK BECAUSE [Item] CAN DESTROY THEM!
>>578463448quintessential american post
>>578464908But you won. That's what matters.
>>578465010this but unironically
>>578465023But the game was low quality and stressful. It's just wasn't a very pleasant experience, as standard games are often are
>>578465010half or maybe 3/4th of the cast in their current incarnation probably couldn't exist without CC items existing. riot's white bread deadlock ripoff will be awful since they have to balance around their usual stat padding item system
>>578463448I'm not seeing it.Haze is honestly least likely to have that preference among whole deadlock cast.
haze doesnt have any romantic interests. she's a workaholic and when she isn't working she's playing the cello
>>578463448But Haze I'm black
>>578465269Which characters are the most likely to be black-only?
>>578462836yoshi? hire this man
>>578465185I'm being 100% honest when i say this, if you wanted a pleasant, non-stressful experience you shouldn't be playing Deadlock
>>578463448>menHaze likes them a little younger than that.
The fanbase for this game is like 90% American males who are 30+ and watch video essays on their free time
>>578465502Wraith (she's racist)Mo and Krill (exclusively rape black women)
>>578465549Games can be pleasant they just have to be higher qualityWatching Yamato die 10 times inside their jungle for absolutely nothing, like idk man. The previous game I had a 0/13/0 Drifter. What the fuck is going on in Standard man.
>>578465550>Sorry anon, we can't play together... I only have playdates with OSIC women.How do you respond without sounding mad?
>You parried my attack? Who decided that?
>>578465661Wraith is a rare sentient nig, she probably hates the 98% of blacks under 100IQ
>>578465791Its the gamemode where you're going to find:>People who don't care about winning at all>People who are playing characters they don't know how to play>People who are deliberately choosing not to play the competitive gamemodeThese are all groups of people who are going to make games horrible. There's just not getting around it. Play ranked or don't play at all
>>578462665vyper has upgrades associated with her slide>>578462056celeste has super special low gravity to make her play different from other heroes, her kit is basic otherwise and her ultimate is literally just lich from dota
>>578465982I must play Standard for I must unlock more heroes
Is it bad I feel so hyped for finally reaching oracle 1? I know it's shitlow but I was trying so hard to rank up out of emissary and now I've finally done it. I'm ecstaticIt was SUCH a loseable game too. Had a full cyrillic russian who I seemingly already muted from a past game (he fed and trolled this game too) and an obscurus celeste
>>578466048Then i'll repeat what i told you before, be glad you won. That's all that matters. That's one less garbage match you'll have to play.
>>578466003>vyper has upgrades associated with her slideok, then give vyper the option to have upward sliding innately without upgrades in exchange for a different abilitylet's see how many players would take that
>>578466228go post in the forums and ask it then. celeste is not some broken mess, it's a basic kit built around the idea of "hey, what if there was a hero built around source low gravity movement?".it's not a hitler idea joseph stalin
Why shouldn't I get headhunter on Haze? I got a huge chunk of damage with it
>>578466137I still have 3 more to go on Vyper and then another 7 on Lash... And then 3 on Mina... and then just then maybe I'll be happy with my pool and go back to ranked...maybe
>>578466113and here I am hoping to get out of seeker tonight. it's been back to back nonstop dogshit games, followed by last night where I was the one playing like shit. even getting back to ritualist feels like a million miles away
>>578466371or how about just don't make retarded decisions in the first place
>>578466376stay in seeker
Why does Paradox sound so fucking shocked when Shiv dies. She's like HOW THE FUCK DID THEY KILL SHIV!?That nigga always feeds why is she so surprised
>>578464418Is it harder to react to than blinking out of a Chrono sphere in Dota?Actual question it's my best frame of reference
>>578466421not my decision. people that play her, love playing her. as someone who plays against her, she's not egregious. her ultimate is lower on the threat scale vs black hole and death slam too, they all do the same thing: punish grouped up death balling
>>578466680then don't defend them like they are, retard
>>578466420realistically you will never make it back to your old rank since the ranked update basically got rid of 30% of players, so ritualist is at a higher skill level than it previously was
>>578466113Is oracle actually shit low?
>enemy team hits a jackpot on the slots>instantly lose the game"competitive" game played for money btw
How are you supposed to Lane against lash?With other problematic laners you can hid behind your tower but lash can just jump on you do 500 damage and get away for free
>>578466668Never played DOTA but looking it up it looks like it has a slight tell with a small animation. In both cases you definitely have to be ready for it but I think you simply don't have the time to react to phantom strike. You need to read it, which means its technically on the phantom striker to fuck up
Are scots really built like this?
>>578467094lucky ones are
>>578466926I'm not following your argument here, what was I defending? celeste's lich ult does not have the same power level of death slam, black hole, or even affliction. I was watching nightshift's EU comp tier list and even lightbringer acknowledged that
>>578467057>no frontline>archmother>dwifta (always feeds in lane)>>>>>>apolloyou won tho
>>578466228>ok, then give vyper the option to have upward sliding innately without upgrades in exchange for a different abilitythinking about it, vyper is supposed to be a gun hyper carry, I think actually tying it to upgrades is a better way to manage how hard she scales.I know you're just whining, but I think that decision makes sense
>>578467057except the competitive version lets players draft
2 years ago today the Deadlock NDA was lifted. The game is still dogshit and no where close to release with it's bi-annual content updates.
>>578468249whats bad about it
I think the ass pain over celeste comes from hero shooter players not understanding that the dota lineage means the characters are made up of varying levels of RPG style stats. for the sake of making these heroes unique, some will have differences at the base level not associated with their actual kit abilities. I dunno, go back to league if you don't like the item balancing or heroes being innately different. you're never gonna like the game.
>>578456217Silver
>>578468540>but us mobatards need a crutch because we can't aimGrim
>>578456217>12 trophy stacks in 14 minutesMust've been a good game
Celeste's ult was so broken that as Sinclair their Celeste sat out of the entire final battle until I died out of fear that I would steal and use her ult
>>578468664whats a moba. this is dota territory
>>578468249word salad ass reddit monologuethis is the Valve equivalent of Nintendobabs blindly fellating BotWjust say you grew up on their games and like it and want it to succeed in spite of its flaws
>>578456217Enemy Venators always have the most outrageous wall bangs (like this one on the stairs) but when I play him they need to be humping the wall before the shotgun even thinks of banging them. like i can guarantee if i had done the same shotgun shot you would've clipped the ledge and slid on top of the stairs instead of getting bangedfuckass game
Final day of TI is starting, get ready for Deadlock announcement (not really)
>haven't played in a year>dont play to avoid raging out>haven't been legitimately angry except 3 times for rational things>reinstallgd
>>578469351is TI over already? Worlds in League is like a month long affair.
>>578469351when the FUCK is the deadlock timbersaw hero?
>>578456009>Based Silver>Retarded CelesteNever seen a more perfect OP image.
>>578469438Group stage + main stage is like 10 daysQualifiers are over a month
My body is a machine that turns win streaks into loss streaks, and loss streaks into win streaks.
>>578469560>shavegoy
>>578469560venator wouldn't be hopemaxxing tho it should say GOD or CHRIST or HOLY SPIRIT or something
>>578469138I feel the same way. Honestly not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I'm probably just retarded and haven't figured it out.
>>578469703I wish you said win steaks because I love steak mmhmmmMy body turns steak into energy
>>578469791Who do you think is supplying the hope?
>>578466987no but it's also not a top player
>>578469791That image is from before Venator even got officially revealed
>>578469703everyones gotta pay their due anon
>>578470016sofix it nigga
>>578470075I wasn't the anon you were replaying too but I recall saying myself that it should've said "Faith" on it. Faith and hope are similar in this context but faith also has the religious connotations
>>578456803please don't>>578458506radiant regen is usable on three heroes.
I WILL WEAR THEM DOWN
>>578467083You don't, you just take it and then watch how the lash abusers say it's ok for Lash to be perma broken because he's fun xd
>>578470392spirit shield and counterspell counter him hard. whenever spirit shield gets buffed that's basically the "ok fuck lash this meta"
>>578470490>"ok fuck lash this meta"except lash has been meta in 99% of the patches
>>578470537he was actually considered weak when the shields had low CD a year or two ago
my body turns steak into meat sweats and high blood pressure
>>5784706612 years ago it was also lash meta so no1 year ago it was also lash meta so noso he was kinda weak not even unplayable for what, 4ish patches total out of almost 3 years?
>>5784707392024 lash had his base ultimate the size of the lane and he scaled into a serious spirit carry, you ain't seen shit bruhand in this case I would agree with the argument that we still need the full roster first, we don't really have any explicit flier/lash counter heroes in the roster yet
>>578469720>bad hygienegoy
>>578470251Shiv, Giest, and Celeste are all cancerous and dishonest characters because of it.
>>578470916>kelvin/dynamo
Can you even tell if Geist is dishonest with RRProblem is it's SO core that I don't you'd ever see a Geist NOT running it
>>578471160not my fault there's only like 20 kelvin players who use their dome correctly
>>578470916I've been playing this game since week 1, I HAVE seen it.And despite being nerfed from all that he's STILL absurdly broken and top tier every single patch, that's how retarded his kit is.
>>578459265>It's gotten so bad I recognise the names of ELO potion teammates and 50/50 assassinI took a week and a half break from the game only to have a guy who I played with before the break who fed his ass off in my game again on my team. I looked him up on statlocker, and he has been playing every single day. To now surprise he fed all game but I managed to put his sorry ass on my back to carry him to a win.This new system is actually so ass they need to remove the demotion shield or at the very change it to one instead of two losses.
>>578471251RR is a free second charge for Life Drain without even having it fully upgraded. Majority of the 1600 gun items are just ass.
>>578461797>ViscousHe does not.t. Viscous one trick
Why the fuck is lash ult as strong as dynamo ult but with 120s cooldown?
new deadlock hero?
>>578472553I don't know who this guy is but he looks like a fucking faggot
>>578472553ironically that's what i said but how big is slacks to give him deadlock info before its release?
>buy spirit shielding>it doesn't proc once despite taking well over the threshold amount>have this useless item in my inventory and just die three times before it starts workingcool thanks yoshi
>>578472430>RR is a free second charge for Life Drain without even having it fully upgradedWhat do you mean by this? Because RR heals way more than life drain does
>>578472690 Its not really about Slacks, he's just the designated TI funny man and TI is the big Dota event. So yeah it could be some sort of hint. Or maybe he's just dripped out like that
>>578472658leagueplayer is....zoomzoom!
>>578472812what are you talking about? RR charges a charged ability back. It doesn't heal you?
>>578473031no, no, RR gives you extra ability charges and lowers the time between them
>>578472951Is it that faggot slime?I used to like him but He's just a bald bitch
>>578473031>>578473080Bro... we're talking about Radiant regen, not Rapid rechargederp
>>578472809trolled by lash downplayers
>>578473080>Dealing significant weapon damage replenishes a charge for each of your charged abilities. >>578473245Uhm...
>>578472553Not cosplaying deadlock this year it's so fucking over
>>578473374What would you like seen nerfed on Lash?
>>578473615grapple should not have charges
>>578473378
>>578473659the DEI ethics team needs to tone down those feminine curves desu my wife's daughter is pretty upset with the unrealistic beauty standards the male gaze is enforcing rn
drifter is so fucking cool...
>>578473650Alright, but in exchange I would want Ground Strike to go back to being 360 degrees, and Flogs spirit scaling back to 1.1.
>>578474161No it does enough damage
I want drifter to rape my fat hairy man ass
>>578474592based and hot
>>578456009cringe pic
this game has such an insane carry bias. they are so insanely strong at all points of the match regardless of soul level. I don't think any of them have ever been below A tier despite the many attempts at downplaying from their boosted players
RAPE PARADOX
Metro is right, buff gun items
>>578474135True>>578474986It's funny how their role to be the strongest. I play carries and they just have so much more agency regarding the game's outcome. I could play my heart out on Bebop or Drifter but I will lose if my carry isn't as good as their carryNot having any carries is pretty much a 100% guaranteed loss because you have no win condition
Is the filter for initiates and seekers learning to use cover all the time and not just in lane phase?
So do you guys buy into the "Valve is going to announce Deadlock on their 30th birthday event" or nah?
>>578475929no
I'm sick of all the FPS games I currently play and am told this one has no aim assist. If true hook me up. I want to play a PC game for PC players againhttps://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049488040/
>>578476205What kind of fucking FPS games do you play that has aim assist? Read Dead Online?
>>578475929No. There's no update for months still because they pulled everyone off Deadlock to work on Dota + Valve are lazy, not because they're working on anything big or are timing an announcement.
>>578475563I have no problem with carries being strong late game. but why are they also so strong early and mid game? they're just *better* heroes
>>578475929I don't think Valve cares a lot about anniversary or stuff like that. I think the update is coming out the very day the first ranked season ends in October, and its getting announced a couple days before.
>absolutely stomp my lane to shit>look at green>fed their geist and drifter like 15 kills>and geist is gun and not bomblol>and is actually good>30 minutes in rift pops up>pocket gets picked off like a retard trying to 1v6 before it even spawns, doesn't even land affliction>we pull back>but victor doesn't and dies>last second passive aggressive woman message>"for future reference we're supposed to contest rift"nigger we weren't winning. god damn it I hate this game, time to queue for another match
>>578476309Most newer fps games have aim assist these days man. Apex, CoD, Fortnite, Halo, Battlefield, etc. I think Overwatch has it too but I'm not sure. Only major games I can think of off the top of my head that don't are CS or Val. TF2 is timeless though.
>8 months without an update
>>578476792I accept your concession.
>>578476792I hate the fucking aim assist on Apex so much. I legitimately really like that game. I had great moments in it, played it for years, but i just don't want to play on controller and if you don't play on controller you just get dumpstered by controller players with bullshit aim assist tracking. It go so bad that like 70% of the PC players play on controller. Its so ridiculous. But yeah, Deadlock has no aim assist and never will have.
>>578476840was it autism?
>>578466769larp ass art
you can be sure shallow grave is going to post the worst clips youve ever fucking seen
>>578476792>>578477005>ApexHoly fuck, fuck movement and gunplay were so good too. It's actually so ass that controller is dev approved cheats for the game, getting one clipped by a mouthbreather in CQC because of aim-assist.
>>578477005I dunno how it is now but halo infinite on release(or was it mp beta?) was some disgusting shit. my mouse decided to shit itself just in time for videogames so I sat in the controller cuckchair and it was insane. a chest shot above the middle of the rib cage turns into a headshot. crosshairs completely off the head, side or above whatever, and it's a headshot anyway
>>578477005Same. It was fun back before everyone realized how broken it was and all the pros switched so the lemmings did too. Now it's just forever AA hell. Annoys the shit out of me if I get instakilled by a guy who walks around like he doesn't even know where he is and has the situational awareness of an acorn. Pretty sure it's closer to 80-85% these days too.>Deadlock has no aim assist and never will have.Awesome. Hopefully I can fish up an invite eventually or at least that it releases soon.
>>578477336Yeah. Man i had a lot of good moments with Apex. Guns are satisfying, the characters have fun abilities but they are not so combat oriented that they become more important than the shooting, the maps are cool. But like you said it just became insufferable getting oneclipped in a high TTK game every time you got inside of a building because controller tracking assist is so strong. Like for anyone reading this post who has never played Apex, its so bad that they actually banned mixed controls in tournaments, because the meta became using MKB when at long range and then quickswapping to controller when you get inside of a building. Shit's so ridiculous.
>>578477659Its not releasing soon. But someone should throw you an invite, its not hard. Just ask in the discord if you can't get one from here. But be warned, Deadlock is 70% moba 30% shooting game. If you don't like mobas this game won't be for you.
fucking holliday and celeste laneI hate laning so much
>>578478195those are C tier heroes who do no damage /dlg/ told me so
>>578477938>Deadlock is 70% moba 30% shooting game. If you don't like mobas this game won't be for you.I've usually been sorta meh on mobas before, not really hate but not really love either. From everything I've seen deadlock does a good job of making it more fun though so I think I'll enjoy it.
>>578476205No aim assist and half the guns have slow as fuck bullets so you have to predict enemy movement beyond close quarters.
Jesus fucking christ the devs are so retarded. While they dedicate an entire update just to nerf Celeste, Wraith continues to reign supreme as an unstoppable force. Just nerf the shit out of her already.
>>578479107Erm wraith is a carry. It's her JOB to be OP?
fucking fix melee already
>>578478842the item system and dota style kits are what set it apart, I really don't think imitators will be able to copy it without harming the design and by imitators, I mean the inevitable dumbed down riot clone
>>578479107they need to nerf celeste more she's so awful to fight against
>>578479107Celeste was legitimately a lot bigger of an issue and if you can't understand that i'm afraid you're too pisslow
Standard has become so ass to play. My teammates are legit the type of people warning labels to not eat soap were made for.
elo hell is not real>mind controls your wraith to get picked repeatedly 40 mins in
>>578479968Frankly you just have to accept the heroes you already have unlocked as the ones you have unlocked. I play a warm up game of standard before doing ranked and you just have to accept it'll be shit. Don't let it bother you too much
i have a 33% wr and have stayed at emissary 2-3 throughout the entire 50 games ive playedi feel im just ruining games for other people should i just quit
>>578479968>>578480215is ranked more fun to play? been playing only standard because I have to unlock it and it's just hell 90% of matches. Does it get better?
>>578476835LETS GO FOR NINE BABY!!!
>>578480360ranked is like before the update basically, total ass but it's a normal total ass. standard is just even worse
>>578480360Yeah ranked is better. People take it more seriously for the most part so there are more comms and honestly the balance is better Standard is really unbalanced and ass right now
Fucking went 3/8/10 on an abrams during my placements how much does a performance like this fuck up my previous 5 wins
>>578480705nothing, and a bad kda on a frontliner doesn't mean anything unless it's 10 or 11 plus. when you play from behind, you're gonna die more often but both abrams and billy scale decently anyway
>>578480705Placements are cosmetic, w/l and performance doesn't matter at all.
>>578480215I'm trying to play for fun, but it's literally not fun when your teammates are certified glue sniffers. Meanwhile the enemy team is running all meta cancer to unlock for ranked or whatever. Like man what the fuck.>>578480360Ranked feels good only because people are communicating more but it entirely relies on team comp to be an enjoyable experience. For example, if your team doesn't have a single m1 carry, and they aren't playing to end the game early it's a horrible experience. Because it's only a matter of time the enemy wraith or infernus gets fed enough to rape your entire team.>>578480705Abrams is the one character you can die 10+ times and still be useful to your team as long as your the first one in and giving your life for your carries.
>>578481070What the fuck? Then what affects placements? Is Yoshi retarded
>>578481150its based on your previous rank and thats about it
>>578481150Your rank prior to the MM update, if you're entirely new maybe placements matter more but there's still hidden ranks in standard so it's probably using those.
>>578481150your hidden mmr from when the game only had one game mode.
>>578481150It's like 80% based on what rank you were in the old system but crunched down to fit everyone below oracle because that's the highest you can calibrate.Your w/l does have some impact but it's not the main factor.
>>578479107wraith is B tier my favorite E6 streamer who only plays wraith told me so
started piloting geistavoided her because she's a hag but she's actually funI hope this doesn't cause me to develop an adult woman fetish
>>578481990actually it's too late all I can do is imagine her groping me with the green arm whenever I see her loading screen art
>>578481990She is fun, probably a little worse now with the RR nerf but not overly. >I hope this doesn't cause me to develop an adult woman fetishDo you pick heroes based on how much you want to fuck them or something?
>>578481990>>578482123hags erotic. Bush and maturity... erotic
>>578482339No I just hate womenhonestly the only reason I tried her is because she's got Terrorblade ult
>>578483269terrorwho? what are you talking about unc
after rewatching my third standard match ever where I went 39-3 by just meleeing a team that could not parry, I was inspired. I'd been trying different things, more strategic things, more intelligent builds, but I realized it just didn't matter.A melee merchant is who I am. It was who I was meant to be all along.
>>578479968you kinda have to numb yourself for Standard and accept that every match is at the mercy of matchmakingyour mental has to be on point because everything will test you and push you to your limit>>578482568>bushfellow shavegoysbald this man
Just lost a match so hard to this split pushing haze. I thought it was a smurf but it was just a shitter that played so badly it worked. She just kept sitting in a sidelane and poking until she solo ulted one of us after harassing the guardians/shrines
every game without a lash or wraith im reminded how fun this game can be even if you lose
>>578484164For any rank below gold sidepushing all game is enough to win a good amount of matches
>>578484205It's been like this for years, what is wrong with these devs
why is drifter allowed to do this at 16 minutesliterally one ability
>>578485059same reason every single spirit nuke does more damage than "power" slash before max ap.devs are retarded.
>>578485059bonus damage is close ranged at 8m>>578485327power slash is like 12-15 meters long
>call for mid boss 3 enemies dead>remember sinclair is a powergamer in the pit>scout the stairs and he's hiding right behind the fog gate>he panics and tries to run to do the hex but I stun lock him perfectly with hook upper cut hook and we wipe them and get both shrines to win off it I FUCKIN LOVE BEBOP
>>578485432>>578485327kek, 22m long actually
>>578485059People here were crying spirit Drifter was dead btw
>no announcements>no update>no leaksStarting to think this game will never release, there is no reason this game should take 8 years to develop.
>>578485540Niggas really acting like range matters when drifter has a literal teleport and 2 sources of massive move speed increasesNot to mention Yamato has to stand still and CHARGE the fucking thing
>just got in game>silver and celeste together>"omg yuri lane yuri lane"thank you for the free loss in advance, yoshi
>>578485327yeah man let's let yamato do 300 damage per nuke in lane great idea
>>578485540Just like Abrams Big Bluey™
>>578486047>literal teleportit's a skillshot >2 sources of movespeedtied to an ultimate and the other is conditional >yamato has to stand stillshe has multiple charges of auto tracking hookshot that is notorious for going through buildings and cover
Okay we're past the point they'd be showing anything Deadlock related at TI. It's over.
>>578485019valve time and all that
>>578483269>No I just hate womenit's ok broi have seriously had it with these slutty bitches
How do I counterspell Lash ultimate?
I've been playing pretty Victor pretty much every game, but I almost never see another Victor on the enemy team. Why is that? Is he an unpopular character?
>>578486047niggas really going "buh buh drifter has a teleport" in the same sentence as they're downplaying yamatonigga, her teleport is point and click and she gets to use her nuke twice
Valve should add a cute white vampire hero to deadlock.
>>578486463you have to counterspell the pull, i.e. counterspell when you think he's going to actually press M1 to pick you upusually this is about a second or so but if they're patient (trying to wait for early counterspells or to secure more targets) it may take longer. very contextual and also depends on how experienced The Lash issimply put though, if it's a surprise, counterspell the moment you process you're hearing The Lash's ult. gut timing if you see it coming
>>578485019>It's been like this for years, what is wrong with these devsValve devs created Deadlock so they can continue stealing a pay check from Gabe
>>578486914my mans drifterhe cute
>>578486914Mina's skin is white
>>578486828stoners see this and start shakingi love green lane's movement options. my favorite is the shorter variant of this, mantle glide left side of bridge, edgeboost off the pillar, and improv to get to the same spot
I'm in /d2g/ because i'm watching TI and i found out that a lot of Dota uncs genuinely don't know anything about Deadlock at all
>>578487169yes, the player base is full of hero shooter and leaguebabs who like to sperg on mic. most people aren't aware that dynamo and celeste's ult are dota ports
>>578487169why the fuck would dotards know anything about other gamesthey are some of the most sheltered mono-gamers out there, along with tf2tards, leaguebabs and csgo fagsI would know, I was one of them
>>578487298I don't remember enigma having all the bullshit dynamo has nor lich doing massive nukes with ult while being hyper mobileit's like they just copy pasted random shit from dota with zero thoughts or effort in how they'd fit in the game
>>578487298tbf every moba/hero shooter has some version of dynamo ult at least
>>578487298There's many more parallels. Pocket is just puck with Venomancer ult. Djinn's mark is Shadow Demon poison and etc
>>578486828is this abusing the mantle slide trick for forward momentum and corner boosting at the same time
>>578487169unc is disrespectful
>>578487645hmm that sounds based doe
>>578487057Mina is a gook whore.
>>578486828Half of these movement bugs are getting removed :)All of them should be removed but they will keep some of them to placate troonment trannies
>>578487849and you're a shitty tranime poster
gray talon is fun
>Won a 40 minute game by just ignoring the enemy in our base and hard pushing a lane and taking their shrines solo as AbramsUseless fucks on my team
>>578487928Japanese culture website
>>578488103I agreewhat you're posting is still shit tier tranime
>>578482339>Do you pick heroes based on how much you want to fuck them or something?Not that anon, but this is very common, and honestly understandable. In character based games, ones you find cool or sexy are the first draw. Its literally how I decide who I want to try first. I may not always stick with them, but it will get me to try them out, in this game, fighting games, or any other game where "characters" are a focal point.
>>578487121>mantle glide left side of bridgedo you mean on the statue buff? I have like two or three spots I was already using around the map but I do really wanna incorporate more mantle gliding since it's the last thing I really need to get good at>>578487716yeah pretty much there's like a triple-digit number of spots around the map where it's possible
>>578488154this is truemetaslaves are cucks. Play heroes you think are cool.
still waiting on>Abaddon>Undying>Void Spirit
>>578487928>tranimeNot a chance. Trannies are an invasive species to anime. We were here first, and I don't hand over everything I enjoy to trans people to "claim" just because they want to try and move in.Did you get playing deadlock just because a big wave of them moved in with the last set of characters?
>>578488305Undying if he useless dogshit
>>578469809if the shotgun is aimed too far upwards the gutshot slides them off walls, you have to aim towards the floor.
>>578488314there's no "we" schizo
>>578488305Valve has done so little work on Deadlock in favor of Dota you're more likely to get Deadlock heroes in Dota at this point.
>>578488305uhh unc? /d2g/ is two blocks down
>>578488314>Did you getDid you quit*>>578488394Sure there is, I'm not the original anon you were talking to. Just chiming in.
The dota 2 general is laughing at us >>578486805
>>578488462>Sure there is, I'm not the original anon you were talking to. Just chiming in.oh well you should've clarified. Fuck that guy his taste is shit.
>>578487169Remember this any time you hear a faggot going "THERE'S NO ROOM FOR GROWTH EVERYONE HAS ALREADY HEARD ABOUT DEADLOCK EVERYONE WHO WANTED TO PLAY THE GAME ALREADY DID".Most of the people who aren't terminally online don't know what a Deadlock is yet.
>>578488474They should be laughing at us. Deadlock is a rape victim game. We lost an entire year of development so Dota could get some ugly clown skins. /d2g/ is our bull.
>>578488283Genuinely why good character design is so important in these things, no matter how much people want to say otherwise.
>>578488283i do this but then the characters i think are cool/sexy slowly climb up to a 60% WR then get bitched about and i get called a metaslave until they get taken back and shot
>>578488405Yet valve as a company doesn't give a shit about TI anymore, knowing valve it's solely because dota still has some developers hellbent on keeping it up and running.Deadlock probably is nowhere near their priority nor has the dedicated team glued to it and they have all hands on deck for shit like HL3 or whatever big thing they're doing.
>>578469809>>578488358
>>578488649dota 2 is one of their top 2 games at all times, what are you sperging about unc
>>578488232yeah, precisely, right through it. or i guess kinda over it. but that's the spot>>578487716they're everywhere. leif i think had a video from a while ago covering some good spots. can't remember what. but there's a lot of spots like thisa good spot is in mid lane, right here. old photo but like, this part is still roughly the samesaves time getting to the vent, and if you're willing to burn stam just flat out gets you there without touching the ground
>>578488752I want you in the ground, Paradox.
>>578485059>why does the hero with 6400 spirit investment and two spirit shreds deal this much dmg wtf?
>>578488849>what are you sperging about uncI'm stating facts, they literally stopped supporting TI with the community prize pool and compendium because it was more work than what they wanted/cared to do.Why do you think the prize pool is like 3 million nowadays?
>>578488624it's more satisfying to style on people with memebuilds and characters anyway>>578488639it happens
>>578488947they're computer game devs, they probably just got tired of supporting an international esports tournament
>>578488698idk what else to say, gutshot is an inconsistent piece of shit ability
>>578487849But you also posted an asian?This is even worse than the touhou images at least those weren't gachas.
>>578488983yeah. hopefully all the nerfs if you can can them that lol means i won't be seeing celeste tourists go 3/11 on my team anymorewhenever you're a fan of character A and you decide to try learning a different character you really start to see how bad people are at character A
>>578489030>they're computer game devsNo they're valve devs, you think league devs get a choice?Valve devs can literally grab their desk and move projects, it's always been like this and that's why they stopped releasing games on a half timely manner, they still support it to a degree but nowhere to the amount of stuff they used to do.
>>578488752I want you in my bed, Paradox
>>578469809>>578488698yeah it seems like shotgun wall stuns are pre-calculated in a way. where what matters is that, if they're in the cone, and if the knockback WOULD take them into a surface (whose normal is within a certain range of angles; can't stun them on a wall they're parallel to?), then the stun lands barring some kind of intervention, even if it looks sillyyou can even see some of this wall-stun "teasing" by pushing around abrams in the hideout. if he's not near a wall and you blast upwards, he'll get lifted. but if he's near a wall, he'll get shoved directly into it instead (no vertical impulse)
>>578489257Yeah and you probably wouldn't call me a tourist. Like you really don't think I'm going to play the unicorn stripper? Always? come on
>take a break for a couple days after a six-game losing streak on ranked>come back>lose another gameHOW DO I ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING WITH VICTOR IN A LOSING GAMEYOU FUCKERS TOLD ME THIS CHARACTER WAS EASY AND WHEN WE'RE AHEAD AND I'M FED IT IS BUT WHAT DO I DO WHEN WE'RE DOWN A WALKER AND THE ENEMY IS 20KWHAT SHOULD I BE DOING, DO I JUST KEEP FARMING UNTIL I'M AT 30K OR DO I STAY WITH MY TEAM WHEN THE OBJECTIVES ARE BEING PUSHED AND THEY MIGHT GET WIPED WITHOUT ME
>>578488698DISHONEST
>>578489846show youre buildgameplan is get some tanky items with some damage (torment/ee) then run it straight down at their backline to disrupt their formation. If they kill you then good your slow and stun is even more disruption and your team should follow up. Solo carry victor is not real until like 40k souls at least dont rely on that at all. Buy refresher.
Why whenever I play standard, half my team is brand new while half the enemy team is at least oracle?
>>578489992Copying this build posted by an anon, I go left->rightI'm in bronze and my teammates never follow up on my reanimation stun if we're already pushed to a walker or base guardian. I should be dying first right?
>>578490163i'd get torment pulse over coldfront and suppressor for sure, but youll need some other items before then. Look at a different build for early game items. Otherwise that build looks fine
>>578490163if youre in bronze I would play more selfishly and try not to die cause yeah your team isnt going to follow up when being that bad. In fact I would probably avoid joining most fights and just constantly shove waves then jungle on the way back. Maybe take a walker. Stay in sidelanes dont go mid. Try and get your team to fight in the opposite side of the map.
>>578489786>you really don't think I'm going to play the unicorn stripper? Always?Personally I think Celeste would be really hot if she had a less dumb outfit, no tattoos, and a voice that didn't sound like nails on a chalkboard, but thats just me.
is mirage the most useless champ in the game
>>578490505>champ>mirage being uselessholy based leagueGOD
>>578490558all he does is teleport. i've never seen him do anything else my games
>>578490163no matter what the build is, the sad fact is that if you have a lane that throws too hard to an enemy rapist that has too big of a cock, it's over. I have definitely had games where I basically can't do shit because the enemy calico or something has swiftly stolen so much farm that the entire barn is gone. it's theoretically possible to turn it around, but the enemy team being 20k ahead and that 20k all being on one/two carries while you as victor are just breaking 30k probably means you're probably toast
>>578490637he tornadoes sometimes
>>578490505he's annoying as hell unless you buy dispelthen he just exists, sorta
>>578489381or rephrased, you're not trying to physically shove them into a wall. the stun is not triggered by them flying into the wallthe stun is triggered by meeting specific conditions the moment you blast them, the right combination of angle/distance. nothing else matters, just timing, distance, angles. existing momentum is irrelevantat least, that's the theory i'm operating under anyways. i have nothing concrete to back this up other than general experiencealso hey speaking of technical venator bullshit, since i'm in my trap-obsession archis traps' arming condition is based on velocity. if it goes below ~250u/s? it will arm after 0.5s no matter what, even if it picks up speed againand for some reason, sometimes, you can have a trap go below the arming speed while still flying into position by bouncing it off a wall. meaning you can insta-trap someone by doing thisthe catch is that this only happens at fairly specific distances/angles on the bounce, and i don't have a consistent setup to land them. been meaning to... i don't know, set up a custom map with a script that reads out trap velocities, and maybe also launches them at different angles and distances so i can find patterns? haven't dabbled with source 2 anything of that nature so i don't know what the limitations are. seems like there's a lot of stuff exposed through pulse or whatever though
SLORK IS ON TI HOLY SHIT
so celeste got -1% damage amp on her 3 and got the scaling on her shield buffed, thats itthey buffed celeste
I used to play pocket but the way other people play him in lane is just disgustingspamming all their abilities in your face and it fucking works for a shit ton of damage
>>578491015that is his literal job, he is a hit and run character
>>578491015yeah i got raped by one a few days ago. I didnt respect the damage amp and he just dumped the coldfront coat briefcase bomb on my ass
>>578490925if a patch note moves innate power into scaling, that is a nerf. it is a moba. losing power early hurts a fuck ton. even if it's power being shifted from base-kit into T2/T3 perk tiers, that matters. that changes their entire power curve. especially when multiple abilities get hit by this at the same timealso that's 1% less amp per stack, that adds upif you go "wow -6% at max stacks it's barely nothing" you're helpless
>>578488103So why is there a board specifically for that topic?
>>578491015The few times I play pocket my abilities just tickle them in lane. I get decent mileage out of the gun but always fall off mid/lategameI dunno if I should be stacking raw spirit damage in lane or what
don't argue with the retarded white vampires schizo, you guys should know better by now.
>>578490505granted this is a night shift from 2 months ago so ymmv greatly as far as pubs go but he does have his uses. Those scaravs are great and just constantly popping mark is good,
>>578491015>"something something my father">shits his pants>pocketflops you for half of your health bar>teleports away>half an hour later you die to spirit burn
>>578492024I didn't know he was a village idiot type
>>578486914We already have Drifter
>enemy drifter DCs>lane partner rem just straight up leaves>match cancelled at just under 10 minutes>still counts as a win and get 300 pointsalright i guess
>>578490701On that subject, what do I, Victor, do against a fed Sinclair? Should I just never get anywhere near him even if my team is getting raped, because he'll copy my ult and get a full heal? It's happened to me three games in a row
>>578492090this is the most recent night shift
>>578488474>No one can understand what’s going onWhat a weird complainIf I look at the gameplay of some random new game, I would not be able to understand half of the things as wellHell, I don’t know what the fuck is going in LoL despite playing Dota2 for a bit
>>578492645>silver completely ignoredDon't they know she's still S tier? Haven't they seen the tier lists?
>>578492503if you have the best ult in the game for him he's gonna keep doing it, the best you can do is warn your teammates when he steals it from you in voice chat.you won't be playing the game if you don't show up for him to steal it, another thing you can do is just buy silence wave and hit him with it when he is low HP and running towards you.
>>578492645 thanks didnt see it for some reason
>dota ti players play at least 4-5 heroes on rotation with many more as niche picks>deadlock beta players can barely handle 2 or 3 deadlock bros...
>>5784932024-5 heroes out of 1302-3 out of 40Deadlock player have a comparatively larger hero pool on average
I dont remember asking
>>578493414we must KNEEL and be HUMBLE to our dota overlords
imagine disruptor glimpse + kinetic field in deadlock, kek
>>578456217>the ambush hero struggling to kill a single solitary enemyGod, Drifter is so fucking worthless
>>578493569The news will be Yoshi posting in the Discord two days from now that the item update will land in roughly two weeks which ends up being closer to 3 and no word on the content update btw.
>>578493769They should straight up port him, his kit is kino
TODAYAT TITHEY'RE DOING ITArtifact 2
>>578493825>Doesn't have spirit spike for rend or his general green spike>Meme items like shadowweave>Choose a target that's tanky + has CC in his kit>Still wonDo drifter mains...nevermind.
>>578493927yeah, I always liked his kit. still waiting on the kunkka port too
The FOMO's kicking in, and I heard they finally have a server near me. Cheers.https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198153327717/
>>578493569Sad to say but no one in China cares about DeadlockAnd dead stream with 160k people in watching finals of the biggest Dota event is not a good sign as wellIf people don’t care about Dota, what makes you think that people will care about Deadlock?
>>578494092>server near meWhich is?
>>578494429Russia
>>578494483>they're finally containing the orcsThank God
>>578494483ew, fuck off
graves pussy belongs to infernus' cock
> play 4 games > win 3> the one i lose has a lash on the enemy team interesting
>>578494429Not Russia, I don't know who that other guy is. Server I'm aiming for is Tokyo, cause I live in the same city as my fluffy nyagger wife.
I’m a low skill player but I seem to always rush and rely on buying extra regen every match How bad of an early game crutch is it for characters who don’t heal much?
>>578495923They have a Tokyo server now?Did you get an invite yet? I don't want to login to steam on my browser because I'm a lazy bastard.
>>578495923ah, the superior japanesu deadrocku meta... Gun Horriday...
>paige(me) and mina versus abrams and paradox>abrams is kinda shit and walking directly into my 3>hitting them with dragons, stealing their boxes, etc>mina "do something or I leave the lane and afk farm">???>walks into the two of them near their tower at half health, gets wall silence shoulder charge timebomb wombo combo'd>already ulted to save this retard like a minute ago, can't do shit>"what are you even doing">later when pushing walker, bebop and paradox come to stop us>we kill paradox, bebop is low and runs>mina chases him behind walker and gets stuck in the rape hallways as two more people show up>"DUDE"there's some sort of venn diagram that contains people who think supports have divine barrier+rescue beam+refresher at 10 minutes and people who play mina as if they're a fed victor
I was in the Dota thread and i found out that they downplay Hoodwink in the exact same retarded post patterns people downplay Silver in this thread. Like, literally the same posts just changing the hero name. And both heroes are actually good in both games. And both are furryshit. I mean the most dissapointing part of this is that it turns out that the most reposted meme in this thread isn't even original, its just a stolen /d2g/ meme
>>578496137Netduma says so. If not, I'll settle for Hongkong. As for the invite, no, not yet.
>>578496564>towelheads have their own serverWHY THE FUCK ARE THEY ON EU THEN FUUUUCKKK
>>578496564>no ivory coast servershit game
>>578496241mute and ignore, they are legit dunning kruger retards with zero awareness for other people like some sort of animal
>>578496564I'll send you one
>>578496476Silver is unique in the fact she has sinclair levels of pickrateNo one plays this hero since she's>Shit>Easily counterable>Has dozens of bugs that render her unfunKeep insisting she's S+++tier though I'm sure you'll find a single eternus player that's climbed with her eventually
>>578496476Hoodwink objectively is shit though, just like Silver. There's the same retarded kind of upplayers in both threads that don't care about facts, they just see pros pick a hero, lose a lot on it, then pretend the hero is good for no reason.
Dude Deadlock needs to have like 20 more heroes so we can have draft memes like in Dota. Its so fucking funny watching pro dota and witness a team lose the draft so fucking horribly that there's almost no hope in the game.
>>57849773420? Maybe more like 30 or 40PLEASE YOSHI GIVE US THE CONTENT PATCH SOON IM SICK OF WRAITH RAPING MY RANKED GAMES
So does this nothing burger patch mean we aren't getting anything else this week? Genuinely why did they even wait this long to release it?
>>578497868Hotfix nerf to celeste and that's itMaybe they will announce content patch... soon... please yoshi....
>>578497868>So does this nothing burger patch mean we aren't getting anything else this weekYes.>Genuinely why did they even wait this long to release it?They aren't waiting to release it, they didn't start working on this patch until a couple months ago. They had a month long vacation and then the Deadlock team dropped the game to work on Dota's Dark Carnival update. They're still a month or more out from having it done and it will likely have the same or less content than OGNB.
>>578497868The content patch is going to be in october when the ranked season ends. It makes no sense to change a bunch of shit about the game mid-season. They deliberately chose the october end date because that's when they have the update planned
>>578497734>a team lose the draft so fucking horribly that there's almost no hope in the gameyou could do that with 2024 deadlock hero roster
>>578498009i dont think the same people who work on deadlock work on dota 2. as an engineer myself that context switching would be really difficult and annoying
why does bebop hook give full heavy melee item procs on his hook for free
I sometimes genuinely hope Valve fucking explodes or something. What is this dogshit work ethic? You want to work on something else before finishing your project? Yeah, go ahead. You want to take a 1-2 month vacation? Yeah, go ahead. We have like 5 people working on a game at any given time because we're stupid and don't care we have an infinite money glitch called steam yet we refuse to hire people so a single project takes a million years to finish
>>578498634bug that will get patched next week
>>578496476>Awkward weapon with high hero damage and shit tower damageHmmAt least hoodwink is still a character when her ult is down
>>578498723you can stop playing and come back later
>>578498871They should add Hoodwink to Deadlock.I wan to see people seethe about her killing people but doing nothing against objectives and actually winning, just like Silver.
>>578499121i've never played dotawhat the fuck does hoodwink actually even do
>>578499049no i am good
I'm not even mad when I lose. I'm mad when the game serves me up 5 russian retards who will literally just never focus an objective once all game. They're not even good at fighting. They just bait each other. They split target focus. Meanwhile I'm forced, literally forced to bounce from lane to lane trying to depush while these retards run it down into the enemy jungle while we're being permanently split pushed. And you'd think that would afford me some crazy amount of farm. But no half the time there's some retard hovering on a jungle camp next to wave leeching farm. And then the rest is them force feeding all of our fucking jungle bags into fights. And if I went to go and join them for any of these fights we'd just instantly, and I mean instantly lose two walkers. They don't communicate except to flame people. They don't push. They don't play around objectives. They don't listen to anything. The more of them you have on your team they more likely you are to just lose. I honestly wanna know. What are you supposed to do in this situation?
>>578459265>>578472110elo badge protection enables retards to stick to thresholds indefinitely pretty much. promotion games are the most miserable.
>>578499190Good attack range and damage, but terrible attack speed.Extremely low health.First spell is a bouncing attack that scales with attack damage, can be ground targeted to spawn a tree.Second spell is a vortex web that stuns instead of slows, but only works if there's a tree in the area.Third spell is a speed boost that lets her run through trees.Ult is a slowly charged single target skillshot arrow that deals a shitload of damage and disables passives on enemies hit.First spells and ult can be easily ported, second and third would need some tweaking.She's mostly played as an initiating support, but can be played as carry if you're up against shitters.
>>578499190One of a few sources of base kit break in the game (disables passive abilities) as well target damage amp, only(?) source in the gameTreewalking is frustrating to play against and her bola is pretty goodHer base attack time is 2 seconds and she's made of paper
>>578486828Yeah its perfectly reasonable to boost across the lane without even spending stamina. This is Yoshi's vision.
>>578496736They live in the EU on your tax money. Or more accurately they consume the neetbux that rightfully belong to you
>e-celebs complain about Celeste>lighting fast nerfOkay, can we get them to complain about Lash, Ivy and Pocket next?
>>578500664They massacred Silver for no reason bros
TI is cinema. Hopefully deadlock will be like it one day.
wraith is literally the strongest laner if she has 4 cardsand theres nothing stopping her from playing passive and saving up cards
>>578500882Silver kept these op nigger troonment heroes in check, so they had to nerf her oh wait now these op nigger troonment heroes are ruining the game better uhhh nerf billy next he's op ok
is graves good for a beginner? she's so cool-looking but i've seen tier lists where she places bottom
>>578502127You'll be playing with other beginners most likely so she'll be OPJust spam ult off cooldown and you'll win eventually
>>578502127no because you'll get really bad habit of not having to aim
>>578502127Like that other anon said she's a good beginner hero but she will teach you bad habits
>>578502254>>578502393who should i try? i played silver but her gun is not fun at all
>>578458735where are her giant gaudy coffin earrings tho?no one ever draws game accurate graves, its always insanely off model
>>578502435Silver is arguably the weakest hero in the game right now, I'd suggest something like Mo and Krill, venator, wardenIf you're good at aiming the latter two will be fine. Mo is good if you suck at aiming.
>>578461321Curse is different because of the damage penalty, it means you usually cannot curse someone and then just solo kill them.only certain characters (such as haze) can do this, and even then its very difficult for them if you had any defensive itemization or are not incredibly squishy.So curse is more of a team item, an item you use and then your teammates kill the personPhantom strike isn't like this.If vindicta tries you fly, you phantom strike, and then shes a sitting duck, disarmed, slowed, and basically unable to do anything, so you get to rape her, every timeits cast range is also still longer despite getting halved (20m curse vs 25m phantom strike, down from 45m)as well as its cast time/travel time being basically instant compared to cursePhantom strike makes vindi unable to play the game AND get immediately killed before she gets a chance to do anything about itcursed relic just stops both of you from playing the game for a little bit, if your teammates don't capitalize then its useless
>>578502632i can only play hot girls...
>>578502879I've played against vindictas that know how to avoid phantom strikes, it just demands that they have a brain for actual positioning and aim
>>578466668Harder.You at least see void time walk at you and it has a slight casting time, void with blink is probably just a smidge easierDodging phantom strike is like dodging a blink hex, if you do it correctly your opponent straight up can't do anything on reaction, they had to have done it preemptively.Its like teching a throw in a fighting game.
>>578466668blinking out of a chronosphere in dota isn't actually hard. dota just has turn rate and if you blink behind your character they have to turn before blinking. it's observable when you play puck and iframe inside chronosphere. if you try to blink outside in any other direction than where your character was facing, the blink fails and you remain inside. so it's more just you gotta have you mouse where your character is already heading to and blink there.
>>578497868>>578497940>nerf to celestethat's a good joke>reduce damage by 10>improve scaling so that you actually get a lot more in the endthey do this every fucking patch. they don't actually nerf any problematic heroes. they just slap it with the most fucking nothingburger 'nerf' and in the same breath make it even better. hack devs.
>>578502435play Graves if you think she looks coolDon't worry about tierlists as a new player, no one is playing heroes correctly outside of high ranks (not everyone in the high ranks even)
>>578496476wait until you find out all the graves posters are just emulating loli pugna
>>578495961extra regen is virtually never a bad pick up on anyone
>15% chance of something working out>know it's a bad idea>force it anywaywhy am I like this
>>578492645>ivy picked oncewow almost like people buy counterspell and debuff resistance in pro games that's crazy actually
>>578492645>pros get silver bummed and destroyed>dont pick her anymoreyou dont hate pro players enough.
>>578479107sorry honey wraith is a carry that means that she's supposed to rape you at all points of the game. a support's job is to be inferior at all points of the game but they still deserve nerfs because they stunned me one time.
>>578475563every yamato player is boosted
>>578479107Wraith can ONLY do 1200 damage before 10 minutes chud be grateful
>>578467057>playing a hero with a channeled ult>apollo the nigger has a 10s cd point and click adventure game on his bar that lets him stun me for 2s and gives him free infuser>NEVER get to cast it unless I rush unstoppableLOLLOL!!!!
deadlock is a white woman game
>>578504036so true sister!
>>578503997Erm she's never picked in pro play so she's actually le weak you stupid low elo fagIts not like she has a 70% pick + ban rate in high elo nope you just suck!!!
Goomba stomp ivy is actually broken btwmost players are retarded m1 slop players though
>>578492503Just don't kill him when he steals your ult. Wait him out.Only a bolt god Sinclair is going to be a serious threat to your team damage wise in that situation.
Waits a week to nerf celeste which is a nothing burger nerf while not adressing anything else silver and shiv is still dogshit and my last 50 matches have been the same characters over and over again i wanna smash icefrogs face in and squish his insides out lazy retarded niggers kill everyone at valve absolute buffoons
>>578504456You don't like seeing Ivy, Lash and Wraith every game?
>keep my lane tidy and avoid all damage to my walker even when multiple enemies go to my lane>literally nobody else on my team pays any attention to the other lanes>four of us on rift>teammate yelling at the other two of us to go to rift even though blue walker is about to be attackedAre these just instant losses, and if so why do I keep getting teammates like this, why is it never the other team
>>578504915The other team does get them (sometimes), you just don't notice it
>>578504915because you dont put pressure and force niggas to come to your lane leaving their walkers molestablethe best defense is a good offensive defense as they say
solo indie devs update their game faster
>>578505495>because you dont put pressure and force niggas to come to your laneHow am I forcing them to come to my lane? The other lanes have walkers too
>>578506785I'm saying you dont force them to, which would allow your team to freely push the other lanes
Is infuser on Abrams overkill?
>>578463063>nerf the base damage by 10>increase the scaling by 10%>nerf the damage from 165 to 140>increase the scaling by 17%BRAVO YOSHI. THE 58% WINRATE HERO NEEDED TO SCALE HARDER. BRAVO BRAVO!!!
>>578507089I dont think you have the spirit damage output to justify it. You need big damage to make use of it
>>578465010DUDE DID YOU KNOW CURSE EXISTS? THAT'S WHY IT'S OKAY THAT WRAITH EXISTS!
>>578506884But I'm pushing up to their walker and attacking it safely, sometimes while there's an enemy there, and only pull back when multiple enemies that I can't take arrive. Is that not what I should be doing? I'm not just shoving it to halfway and then leaving it alone. Do I need to make suicide plays to keep them at the walker as long as possible, because that seems like it would be inting unless I was playing a hero that can potentially kill a walker off one suicide play
>>578507321Well it's a game to game decision and depends on your build too. Ratting ivy is good but I personally prefer teamfighting ivy's that goombastomp or utility spam (decay, vortex etc). So you can try flying as soon as you see 1-2 people rotate to walker and force a fight with a player advantage elsewhere. Even picking up a teammate if they're with you for a bigger swing of players.The best ivys and mirages make it feel like they're everywhere
>>578507321And yeah you might not be forcing it hard enough. You can walk into the walker while crouch sliding and still shooting it trying to kill it and ignoring the enemies, dodge walker stun with stone form then just fly away when you're in danger of being killed.
>>578470916>we don't really have any explicit flier/lash counter heroes in the roster yetdo you actually play the game? these all do things that explicitly fuck over a lash
>>578472538>as dynamo ult but with 120s cooldown?wait until I tell you about this neat item called indomitable that basically makes it 120s as well
>vaguepost so that people ask him what each one doesnot falling for it
>>578508053>>578472538sinclair has dynamo ult on 10 second cooldown (also with damage amp effect)
good job valve!
>>578507931mina definitely does not counter lash, dynamo probably doesnt either (slowing hex disables his save easily)the rest I agree with. Especially apollo fucks lash in his ass hard
>10 months between content patches
>>578508707If we don't get it in a few weeks I'm going to flip outNo one asked for this retarded risk of rain mode GIVE ME THE HEROES GIVE ME THE JUNGLE REVAMP GIVE ME SHIT
>>578508768don't worry they're definitely not adding a third game mode when they dont even work on the first and secondthe leaked pve shit is probably a test mode to only fight the new creeps or a temporary event to help you learn what all the creeps do
?????
>>578508979Huge TF2 MvM update is coming!
>>578508976Paradox one is so hot holy shit i might have a latex fetish
>>578508976Dynamo one is so hot holy shit i might have a ball fetish
>>578508976Abrams one is so hot holy shit i might have a blue fetish
TURN ON INTERNATIONAL STREAM IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING
>>578509406Auroth picked!
>>578508976>dynamo
>>578508183who could've possibly predicted this drifter going 2-9
I am on the mic, I turned on my mic, to beg my team not to pick a fight outside base when the enemy has walkerThey picked a fight outside base when the enemy had walkerI'm about to fall below bronze because of this shit
>>578510124And now I'm in rat-tierI don't know what I can FUCKING DO TO GET MY TEAMMATES TO WORK WITH MEI'm playing Dynamo, I'm calling my ults ahead of time, shoving lanes when it's on cooldown, I end most matches with the highest player damage on my team, what the FUCK AM I DOING WRONG THAT MAKES ME LOSE EVERY GAME
>>578510402Honestly just ignore your ult and play around stomp cause people are too retarded to win games with teamfight ults they will run around and die aimlessly. Do damage. Play a different hero :(
>>578510402you're playing dynamo and putting the fate of your ult's impact into the hands of other people in retard ranks. unironically just play a carry and go push sidelanes until people start sounding white.
>>578510526>unironically just play a carryTell me who to pick, please. I already grinded Victor at this general's suggestion and dropped two ranks trying to make him workI was fucking Ascendant before the rework I need to get out of here. I need to GET OUT OF HERE
Enduring speed or trophy collector?
>>578511314idk yamato apollo drifter abrams bebopsomeone that makes shit happen. Victor is kind of passive like dynamo
>>578511314just play seven. people don't actually pressure carries and him and wraith are just ticking time bombs that farm at crazy speeds.
>>578511351>I want speed>>My team are retarded and probably aren't going to net me much assists in the early and mid game>>>Enduring Speed>>My team are actually sentient and capable of gang raping people so I can stack assists>>>Trophy Collector>>I have to basically permanently macro or else my team will lose the game >>>Fortitude
you guys think anyone has ever died to rem passive where his helpers do 1 dmg to you when you kill him
>>578511871Veilwalker...?
>>578511351Trophy collector every timeJugg sucks
>>578512159>t. m1gger
>>578512126Basically just a bebop/doorman/paradox item for obvious reasons.
>>578512059Probably, if there's a pocket on rems team
>>578510526Dynamo can carry until asc>>578511314Just split with wraith like everyone else
>>578512194but hes right, jugg isn't good against the current op m1ggers because their fire rates are so high they hardly notice
>>578512289the point is more that dynamo requires some degree of awareness and coordination that low ranks most likely lack. if you want to just spirit rape people surely you just play apollo.
>>578512194The -40% is calculated retarded so when a haze has +150% it brings her down to 110% not 90% like it should
>>578512159You sell TC for jugg late game when you are net worth capped
>>578512445I play dynamo hybrid
>>578512324I recall reading somewhere once that anti-fire debuff can only stack to -50%>>578512485honestly I think you just bank in your trophy collector and sell it for something like cheat death/indomitable
when are they fixing the leaderboard? it's only counting standard games when it should only count ranked games.
>>578512581The cap on firerate debuff is only if the target is at base rate, so you can’t go more than -50% if they have 0
>>578508979They're going to game 5...
>>578508979brother you're not getting deadlock content on the biggest dota 2 event of the year
>>578513023what if they announce end of service for both games at the same time
>>578513198Yep, we all know it's Artifact 2.
>>578508979It was about a skit he made with some retired Chinese Dota players
>>578513659ARTIFACTTWO!!!!
>>578506246it's really hard to give up on game design and copypaste dota in 3rd person ok?
thoughts? should deadlock have hero deny like dota?
>>578500664>1% nerf>increased ult scalingicefrog would never nerf the troon
>>578514329Yes so riot has something to remove from their clone
>>578514329>1/4 of a hero kit taken up by something completely useless that can easily grief your team
>>578514329it used to kind of have that, heroes would shit out souls on death
this is yoshi's vision for standard
what is it with large parts of the playerbase hating troopers? they will ignore them, let them run into their walker while they are fucking around clearing some t1 campin league this would be unheard of above a certain elot. ascendant
>>578514673as in soul orbs*
>>578514329>Be low>Run to one of your teammates for heals>Get euthanized insteadThe game is set in the USA not Canada
>>578514760because half of this games playerbase comes from hero shooters (like ow, marvel rivals) and those games dont have creeps (or econ)
>>578514529deadlock doesn't have enough team griefing
>>578514912people in 2024 would go fucking insane when you used quantum entanglement on them, even when it saved their life
>>578515053people still do
>>578514760ascendant before or after mm update? regions also differ way too much like sea is just a mess i am p6 eu i don't have this problem unless its some retarded russoid that somehow got carried by their character
>counterspell/riposte abrams charge>you still get stunned if he rams into a wall (without you)Kill these fuckass devs already
>>578515319eu, after
>>578515319Silver is so fucking hot bros i wanna put my dick into this
>>578515053Most Dynamos fucking spammed it when there was zero reason to use it (No the firerate buff is not worth it) people have gotten better with using it but they also removed the buff afaik.
>>578515454a lot of people are climbing and shitting up matches with negative winrate tho i haven't noticed people not pushing waves too much idk in the end high elo in this game doesn't really mean much except being above average
>>578514329I don't mind but any ability or item that denies heroes should only be usable on yourself, absolutely do not let people have something that lets them kill a teammate at will
I don't even understand why Silver X Celeste is a shipIf you were going to dyke her, out of the female characters she has convos with there is way more sexual tension in the Holiday lines
im playing much less than i was before the mm update, standard is a shitshow and ranked feels too mickey with this dogshit system
>>578516205They like silver and not holi that's all there is to it.
>>578515378slop patch shit like that adds depth if you're a retarded consumerclearly the answer is to seek brain damage
>>578515626They were using it to reload
>>578516524You don't need to take teammates with you to do that unless that was also new. Also it's a fucking save on a long ass cd average Dynamo player is fucking braindamaged.
>>578516205answer is troons they think of celeste as "Omg xhe is just like me!" same thing for silver "Xhe transforms just like me! she is such a girl failure like me UWU" when you put them next to each other "OMG TRANSBIANS THEY ARE JUST LIKE ME SO HOT AND SEXY"
>>578516496We usually communicate in English on this websiteDo you want to try again?
why are there so many leavers now?
>>578516205/u/niggers have no logic, pretty sure they don't even have an internal voiceI checked a holliday/silver story on AO3 just because I wanted to see more silver at all, and the author's opening words are an actual serious complaint about how there's not enough holliday/silver ficsWhen that exact pairing comprises like 49% of all the silver stories on the site, with silver/celeste being the other 49%There's a total of like fucking 4 straight or non-shipping silver stories and I wrote one of them. Meanwhile these ingrate /u/fags and troons STILL constantly cry about how they're so hard done by and so starved for content
>>578514760I think the lack of variety and slow pace bores people to tears until they start roaming. There should probably be some kind of mechanic or event that temporarily disrupts the trooper pacing to fight over something throughout the city. Also there are still too many vents to get around it trivializes the map.
>>578517303what's the point of playing out a losing game?
>>578517550To practice playing from behind and playing under pressureTo try and pull a runbackTo become a stronger more versatile playerTo be a good sport if absolutely nothing else, you'd expect people not leave against you
>>578517303Weeding out the weak by putting zero mental players on the same team. It's stopped happening to me in my games after a while.
>>578517550Keep that logic, next time you have a bad day, kill yourself
>>578517705it's a team game, if others are not trying to win, why should I win a game for them?Trying to comeback just results in a longer game, so why would I spend 50 minutes to lose when I can just leave and be done with it in 20 minutes?>Good sport when you are playing against smurfs and people that are obviously higher rank than youlol
>>5785185173rd world mentality
>>578518517>it's a team game, why is it all my team's fault and everything's all about me?I see right through youYou will never be higher than brick. Well, actually you probably will with these baby handholding ranks now, unfortunately
>>578518886>>578518750I am tired of trying when the end result is the sameJust saving my energy and time, that's all
>>578519303YWABAB
>>578519303All you are doing is outing yourself as a weak willed and weak minded bitch who relies on others for his dopamine hit
>>578519303just do the best you can and have fun
>>578517303>Losing>Play it out like a man.>Winning>Enemies rage quit 12 minutes in.Mentally weak shitters should be cracked under heel.
This might be my best Silver game yet
this might be my haze haze game yet
HOLY SHIT ANNOUNCEMENT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
doorman rework when?>doorman only portal>skillshot stun ult>cart can fly in any direction
>>578520768damn sloppers work fast
>>578517303>Losing>Infernous starts screaming at the Paige to abandon so he doesn’t get the penalty>’since it’s his fault’>faggot actually does>entire team quits after>look at stats>infernous died more times than Paigethe fuck is wrong with this community
>>578521142>the fuck is wrong with this communitylow T
>>578514529fun hater detectedpeople like you are why they removed suicide Tyrone build from HotS
>>578456009>do calibration matches>win the first 6>map aware team mates who communicate and buy counters>lose 2>calibrate to stone>now everyone is a retard who dies 1v4 and goes 4/12/8 at the end of the match>enemy team has at least 2 braindead pubstompers that nobody is playong aroundi used to doubt people complaining about mm
>>578507931vyper ult and paradox slow/ult yea, no clue how others are sniping a grapple deathslam sequence. we're not talking about laning phase
Can they just buff Silver already?
>>578517550The dopamine hit winning a lost game is like a shotgun and worth the effort
>no announcement at TIit's over...
>>578521312hegseth needs to do something about the estrogen in the big macs
>>57852211530th anniversary tomorrow
>>578521312low test is associated with emotional instability and weak critical thinking in stressful situations, so this is likely
>>578522650t. RFK
>>578522494When there will also be no announcement.
I feed every game I try Apollo, I genuinely don't have a clue on how I'm supposed to use him. Is he a 1v1 character or a brool character?
I only play GT, Mina, and Vyper. What do you anons think of me? (Yes im a seekerGAWD)
>>57852313266% faggot
>>578522965Lane Bully who falls off a cliff.He hardcounters many heroes in lane but once people have disables and spirit resist you just become a nuisance
>>578522965it's because he doesn't have a niche anymore. he's been gutted compared to his launch state
>release patch to nerf horse>horse buffed>geist nerfed
>>578523454>>578523647Why do people here keep telling me to play heroes that apparently suck?
>>578523454>>578523647>they still don’t know
>>578523829they lose a laning phase and then lose their minds over it due to ego
>>578523829we need a hero that speenshaze ult doesn't count
>>578523829We are just pulling up the mmr ladders behind us
>>578522965I really hope you're not playing him as spirit like every other initiategawd
>>578524007Brother, your makrill?!
>>578524469How should you play him?
>See my visc build this in a oracle lobby>Have to resist the urge to call him a trolling faggot that should kill himself>We win BARELY and in the end he did alrightHere's a PSA for you guys. Fight the voicesThere's a good chance if I flamed this guy we would have lost to escalating tilt
>>578524642Gun+melee, your only spirit item should be superior duration
>>578488906disingenuous pedophile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-TN24vbslothis goober guy is fucking miserable despite being backpacked, holy shitthis is the guy you people idolize?
Uh huh, look at all these gun items in phantomThere's a stray melee charge at least
>>578524749nobody told him viscous gun got nerfed huh. that's pretty funny.
>>578525173>he is willfully unaware
>>578525194Honestly his damage was pretty decent, only issue I have is his greedy ass Glass cannon + vamp burst with trophy collector lolI think you could probably still do decent on gun visc, the community tends to have massive over-reactions to nerfs and act like a hero is unplayable >DUDE MY WRAITH AND LASH DOES 0.002 LESS GUN DAMAGE ITS OVER SHE'S F-TIER FUCK YOU YOSHI!!!
>>578525386>play ivy>go capacitor build>wtf gun ivy is trash now wtf u building>go spirit ivy>wtf is ur build what r u even hopin to do>go support ivy>wtf is ur build wtf u trying to dolegitimately what do these retards want
Fred the finch is an even more retarded version of the eido archetypeCompletely carried by mechanics, literally 0 implicit strategies and an ego thrice the size of his capacity
>>578525123Nobody idolizes the nigger who continuously cries that silver is OP, but also got kicked off his team as soon as his only hero (viscous) got nerfedEven the worthless profags we've got don't want him
>you can unstop apollo ultwhyI can understand not being frozen, but why do you also ignore the damage.
>>578525564stone form maxxed ivyecho shard them all
>>578526078So true, characters should all be uninteractable
Why is it so hard to get out of pigeon 1.
>>578526368You might be memeing but I remember vortex web + stone form + echo shart being the most cancerous combos late gameDon't have counterspell? Well don't worry, you won't be playing the game for the next 5 seconds
>>578526405>ermm well you see, mina ult silences so unstop should make me take 0 damage from it!
>posting eceleb shit on 4uncskys
I am once again begging doorman players to play bellman and just spam spirit burn on everyone you will carry games please STOP IT WITH THE MEME TROLL KIDNAP SHIT FUCK YOU JOECHUCK
GRAVES
>>578527156>spirit burn>on doormanbricklo hours
>>578526772Hello Fred you braindead giga nigger
>>578527156Nothing you can offer beats endorphin release when you bonk someone under the Walker. Sorry.
get the brat corrected
>cropped porntranny hours
>>578527504
>>578527156>I am once again begging doorman players to play bellman and just spam spirit burnyou're fucking dogshit and don't know anything about doorman.kill yourself for pretending you know more than the specialists of the character.
Why do chiggers int multiple times for walker at a disadvantage? I hate chinks so much
>>578527504retard
>>578527702SOURCE
Paige is built...
>>578527626>>578527702>>578527786ywnbaw
This match was lost 15 minutes ago but there's no forfeit button and the enemy team isn't pressing their advantageWe need a forfeit button, this is a humiliation ritual
>>578528034bait
which deadlock stat tracker site is the best?
Is Abrams, Bebop, Warden a decent ranked roster or should I grind something else? I technically have Silver unlocked but fuck that
At what soul count should Wraith stop farming?
>>578518320
>>578526368prepatch you got like 4.1s of back to back stuns. now it's more like 3.64. If they build debuff reducer it's 2.73s. If they build weighted shots on top of this (42% debuff resistance total) they wind up with 2.1s stun, and you likely won't land the second one given echo shard cast time and cast animation. counterspell cucks all of this entirely. the initial web stoneform ult kudzu combo is all still strong. but echo sharding doesn't feel great anymore. I personally buy arctic blast instead.
>>578528541tracklock probably because its the only one that works and the client (if you absolutely need it) doesnt come with overwolf
>>578527702b-boobies?!
I played dota over league, but the /ff function is a good thing. Your ranked match doesn't fucking matter, nor does your normal match, but your time does.
>>578517320Anyone shipping silver/celeste spend more time on reddit/discord than playing the game. They only care about the looks and color, to them everything is coded to hang themselfs.
>>578526557echo shard isn't really an effective buy anymore. it would still be good for mid contests I suppose. just to fuck with counterspells. but unstoppable will turn the thing into a paperweight. I much prefer arctic blast. cancels flights. on a crazy low 18s cd with transcendant so you likely get to use it several times throughout a fight. wide 16m catch radius so it's more likely to effect more than one person. whereas echo shard went a lot like this>web stoneform>echo>everyone spreads out in starfish formation>have to choose who you're going to follow up onArctic Blast also has cancer levels of slow and the same stamina freeze that kelvin has on his nades. So it annihilates anyone without resto locket/stamina mastery. It's definitely my preference now. But stoneform into curse is a stronger cc combo than echo now for sure.
heroes that are too strong but we are NOT allowed to acknowledge it until our streamerGODS tell us its ok: GT, viscous, McGinnis (still), mo & krillremember you CANNOT say these heroes are strong at all, not even just ok, until a streamer says otherwise. if you suggest these heroes may be strong before then you are seeker simple as!
Doormans VA should start a Cameo.dude would make crazy bank.
For once can Yoshi stop falling for the yoshi downplay and gut her
>>578529441Silver
heroes that are too strong but we are NOT allowed to acknowledge it until our streamerGODS tell us its ok: Pocket, Paradox, Seven, Vyper, Apollo, Victorremember you CANNOT say these heroes are strong at all, not even just ok, until a streamer says otherwise. if you suggest these heroes may be strong before then you are seeker simple as!
>>578529837Dude's a theatre actor, no?Probably too "serious" to do shit like that
Alright /dlg/ what comp is beating this lineup?
>>578530035Why isn't ivy on this list anon?
>>578530274>no m1free loss
>>578530068He's probably just not savvy. Theatre actors don't make much.
>>578530068another Steven Ogg situation. SAD!
>>578525123He's now one tricking Doorman after this game by the way
>>578530538Ogg wishes he did theatre.
>>578530539you're lying, surely that was just a salt post and he'll go back to spamming viscous/para
Now that Celeste is nerfed, can we talk about Lash being OP?
>>578456497Why would Dynamo be touchedHe's mid
>>578493202deadlock is literally dota but harder
plot twist: doorman's VA is a cute theater twink
>>578530635No I saw him playing it on someone else's stream, he's had to spam it in standard to unlock it in ranked.
so tired of gun meta
>>578530274Wraith Rem Billy Kelvin Apollo and one flex hero, maybe Sinclair
why do you guys hate tankbuster
>>578530654>nerfedLMFAOOOOOOOO>Lash being OPhe's been broken all fucking year.tier 2 grapple is one of the most retarded things i've ever seenwhy do spirit nukers get to get FREE fucking weapon damage (GT, Pocket, Lash)while you have dedicated weapon damage characters with no spirit amps or when they DO get weapon damage amp, it's fucking useless dogshit (Abrams)
>578530798
>>578530941it quite literally does nothing other than ensure you can proc spirit burnit's damage is pitiful and has been a piece of shit since they changed it from max hp to current HP (objectively retarded because at the time you'd NEED true damage %hp damage against tanks is during spirit resiliences below half activation, where tankbuster it's at it's weakest)
>>578530798It's been spirit meta for months, seeker-kun
>>578531396Try years
>>578530941its good on talon where it helps properly burst down tanks and people stacking spirit resists, and also makes owl executes much more reliable
>>578530035ivy is the most broken character in the game after celeste but doesn't require any skill to be effective
we had "gun meta" for like one month and then proceeded to nerf it instantly in favor of more spirit slop.
>>578530798>gun meta>gun builds are the worst builds in the game>the only good m1ggers build spirit to deal spirit damage with their guns???
>>578530654Sorry it’s deathys main so it will be slap on the wrist nerfs
This is a MOBA. "spirit meta" is not a thing. That should be the baseline. And if there's anything even close to a gun meta, the game has failed.
>>578530941We don'tOne autist does because he somehow doesn't grasp that it's one of the best spirit items that enables a lot of shit.
>>578531742my favorite sign of a dogshit spirit meta is that SPIRIT Haze was her strongest fucking build for a little minuteT H E FUCKING GUN CHARACTERwas a spirit nuker ult bot
>>578531813go play dota or kill yourself
>>578531221>>578531396>>578531537>>578531742bricklo cope
>>578531856That autist is right tho and farms concessions
>>578531972I accept your concession.
>>578526420it took me like 70 hours to get from rat 3 to racoon 1
>>578530404low a tier at best
Who has some good Shiv vods?Also how fucked is he by the radiant regen changes?
>>578532130You know I truly thought I could never see downplay this high of a level from anything but fg players but somehow Ivy players are getting real close.
>>578531535ah we're pretending celeste takes skill to be effective then? got it
>>578532039You didn’t make an arguement, you stated it “enables a lot of shit” which is a bit vagueWhat does it enable? What is the deductive logic that supports your case? What evidence supports it?
>>578531957I have more mmr than you in dota and deadlock.
>>578532367It's impressive that the Tankbuster schizo does not actually know what's in the shop or what abilities there are in the game. It explains quite a bit.
>>578532039I revoke my concession
>>578532496>didn’t answer I accept your concession on his behalf
i only brawlmoba is for faggots
>>578532726Same. I am not breaking fucking boxes for 20 minutes.
LOVE ELO MINES
>>578532865maybe 15 wins isn't enough
>>578533023no the best part is that this nigger has been griefing my games for the past week and he hasn't moved rank on a 45% winrate loss spiral
>our vindicta is a loltard who calls heroes "champs" and buys counterspell but doesn't use it>spends the entire game calling the enemy Bebop a pedo because she keeps getting hooked>he's Lash friend leaves the game>we winI wish there was a way to ban league players from this or any other games.
What is the good Paradox build?
>>578533265People are doing the carbine maxing but it gets hard countered by spellbreaker
Carbine should apply through Ricochet.
the best thing about carbine build is that you're getting one of the biggest spirit nukes by building GUN so you're basically one of the best hybrid characters in the game
holliday rework when
Ricochet Silver
>>578532865>almost 400 games holy shit these people don't have lives and still suck at game i am like 100 games in almost ascendant 1 already
>>578533265Playing bebop.
>queue doorman and wait 5 minutes>load in>Wraith >Esc, Disconnect
notice how spiritfags will complain about "gun meta", that being the best way to play spirit heroes is just building gun, while m1ggers whine about "spirit meta" because the easiest way to play gun heroes is just to build hybrid. valve clearly has an idea for each hero on how heavy each type of investment should be and they go too far trying to balance out the inverse in their kit (making spirit hero's gun not worthless and giving m1ggers something to do with spirit damage). so inevitably the best way to play spirit heroes is to build gun and the best way to play m1ggers is to play hybrid or heavy spirit
>>578534978No, retarded pedophile. not reading past the 2nd sentence in your dogshit post.Lash builds FULL spirit with like 2 gun items for investment and then proceeds to do more gun damage than Haze while having the top 3 ults in the game.
>wahhhh heroes should be locked into one playstyle, spirit characters should never be allowed to buy a single gun item :(((glocket? giganerfed into being unplayablegun shiv? huh? can you provide source for gun shiv being a thing in the past 3 weeks?gun doorman? lolgun holliday? lolgun yamato? lolgun kelvin? giganerfed into being unplayablegun viscous? giganerfed into being unplayablegun sinclair? LMAOgun rem? gun paige?yeah, so what was that about "game is shit because yoshi wants every character to buy gun"?
>>578535141do you really expect me to seriously engage with this when you are just flat out lying
>>578535590are we really going to pretend like every single one of these things hasn't been meta in the past do these just not count because they aren't in your immediate, feeble memory
>>578535590>gun doorman? lolI am so fucking mad my PC was dogshit and couldn't consistently hit 60 FPS when Gunman was good.I missed peak.
>>578535590Almost like spirit characters have such busted kits that having a great gun to go along with it is overkill.
>>578535835no it was fucking stupid, cart was basically a lane-long stun and held someone in place to triple headshot them for 4000 damage.
>>578524982Literally everything has to go perfect for Drifter to land that sort of damage on you, its all your fault if it happens.
>>578535829>reading comprehension
gunslop ruined deadlock
VitGODS run deadlock
>>578536437yeah we should have more aoe bomb spam
>>578537164we need more point and click abilities that are unavoidable
>>578537324
>>578534978Like who? Most spirit characters get gun invest, if that, then ignore it. Hell, Paradox is noteworthy right now for being able to build gun heavy because her ability scales with weapon damage and, not only is the build not even exactly stomping ranked right now, but she's still buying way more than a spirit invest because the items are so fucking good.
>>578533265wallmaxing
>>578537331>>578537331>>578537331>>578537331>>578537331
>>578537704theres alreayd a new thread nigga
>>578536103>no it was fucking stupidoh I am WELL aware, I was playing at the time but just at 50-60 FPS.I just wanted to play it with a consistent framerate.
>>578531227it doesn't even proc spirit burn anymorethat is why it was getting built and was good, auto spirit burn procbut its in a pretty shit spot right now
>>578529837Doorman's VA was homeless back in 2020.
