WINNERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL 2026TEAM SPIRIT>INFORMATION & GUIDESWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:GameNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/LoreFor League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.ggPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/570>ESPORTShttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esportshttps://datdota.comhttps://dota2.com/esportshttps://gosugamers.net/dota2Previous: >>578517796
puppey is a n00b player and a n00b coach.
Buff Hoodwink (TI losing hero)
sex with lina
weird how io became popular like midway through group stage, became permaban-tier in playoffs then in finals it was just picked 1 game and then ignored
bad guys won btw
>>578531193Lina needs a second arcana, with a Drow/WR arcana style model
>No update>No AnnouncementValve once again doing literally nothing while sitting on the literal biggest IP gaming has ever known.
This TI was much better than last year I think
>>578531285>puppey is a good guy
>>578531260it doesn't do anything. it's a fraud pick. teams losing to it were frauds.
>>578531253why is he hiding in telegram
>>578531326>biggest IP gaming has ever known.Pokemon?
>>578531475it's russian twitter
>>578531285TRVTH
>>578531393Who will he beat up tonight?besides Satanic
Are there any carries Yatoro doesn't play? It seems like every carry he picks is considered a "yatoro classic" so I can't think of what isn't
>>578531475russians only use telegram.
>>578531393reddit hates puppey so he's a good guy
valve needs to make dota for robloxso we can groom young boys into being dotards
>>578531285ppy has been the antagonist for like 10 years
where are the pros leaking stuff in d2g? the tourists already left, you can snitch leaks nowwho's gonna quit, who's gonna make a new team, who's gonna become a streamer, etc
imagine jerking drows massive cock
puppey choked with the most stacked roster
>>578531772jiggy of this?
>>578531579he'll beat up spirit in the after party too what're the 5'5 russians gonna do
>>578531597Well he literally did a new carry hero each game on one of the TI runs
https://x.com/CLEMENTINATOR/status/2091522563730276394
>>578531597io, i thinkbut if it can right click he can play it probably
>>578531714bro only "pros" left are russian zoomers, they are doing that in telegram
>>578531938the bad guys of dota 2
Honestly the more I think about it the more I think Ephey is a humiliation ritual planted by SBI and Valve for white chuds>fucked her way to the top>got 5 stacked boosted>on every panel "a brown woman is talking about dota, listen and learn :))"it's absolutely crazy watching the English main cast.
>>578531869
>wraith king completely ignoredHe's already the strongest carry in the game, after the buffs he's sure to receive he'll be the free win hero of the patch.
>>578531938didn't even need to go bald
>>578531869might've been a dogshit pick but it was funny as fuck
>>578531918>top 4 teams are russian
>>578531497opposing force
>>578531869The guy has main character syndrome and thats why he picked off meta juggernaut and safe lane ember spirit. He wanted to be the guy everyone talks about and was willing to sig. handicap the win chances to get there. And this tweet actually is exactly that, HE lost the tournment, me me me. Btw the tweet before that a few days ago was "I won tournament". They should fire this guy.
>>578531253based, DAGESTAN REIGNS SUPREME
>>578532336He didn't pick safe lane ember. Spirit counter picked slark mid so he took it off noone to try and give noone a better game.
>>578532336Puppey made me feel so bad for Satanic. Kid dominated the entire event only to lose two games in the grand finals playing trash heroes. Puppey basically gave Spirit a 2-0 advantage. If all he does is manage their draft, he should be fired, and they can hire me, a dude that’s literally never played the game because I could have done better. If he does more of the in game tactical scheming, he should not be fired.
coordinator please come back
did anyone predict spirit losing vs pari in upper bracket but then making a lower bracket run and winning finals?
why is ephey posting stuff like this
>>578532449ignore>>578532336I thought you were talking about satanic, not puppey
>>578532449>does the draft>not responsible for the draft???
>>5785310047.42 will drop on Halloween along with Dark Carnival act 2.
Ench probably wouldn't be a Spirit supporter to be honest>>578532570Someone posted that had that last thread
>>578532508I think he should be fired, since his ego seems to be out of control. Thats the only way I can explain these weird off meta picks. If you want to be the main character as coach the only way to get there is with weird off meta picks. Some people are trying to blame it on satanic, saying he wanted to play jugg, but then how do you explain Ember Spirit, thats not a hero satanic wanted to play. Kind of sick to ruin the chances for a 19 year old talented kid because you want to be front and center as coach.
shartanic the turd buying mkb because of 25% radiance evasion was literally the reason their team lost
>>578532601white simps money
https://youtu.be/ERBLECMpd5k
>>578532601which flavor of poopskin is she?
>>578532657I still havent started the dark carnival event, gotta get back to playing the game
>>578532673>jug picked twice>lost both timesmaybe he needs a few buffs
>Spirit have won 3 of the last 6 TIs
>>578532768someone needs to buy shartanic some BSJ gameleap coaching sessions PROMOCODE: BSJ
>>578532861He needs a whole rework to match nu-dota powercreep
Puppey drafting GOD status?
>>578532861no thanks. the counterplay is basically grouping up. if you buff him so that's not the counterplay anymore he just becomes impossible to lose with.
>>578532867They won 20% of all TIs
>>578531597His LD is questionable. And IIRC he has abysmal winrate with Spectre
>Wake up>President of Shartonia pick Jugg on game 5 of TIkek Satanic is going to hate this retard for the rest of his life
>>578532861jug rapes me in pubs tho.idk why he's so strong in pubs but weak in pro
How the fuck did Liquid and Falcons do so shit?
>>578532768hey i get that reference
>replace +1 omnislash duration with -60s omnislash cooldownhero fixed
>furion>syllabear>left open all series>satanic's signature heroes of the tournament>puppey doesn't draft themthis fraud needs to lose his job. he's been dogshit at drafting for over a decade. just trial random top 5k pub players and I guarantee you'll find one that will outperform him.
What does axe even do
>>578533186Fell for the honeypot
>93rd percentile because Puppan decided to draft experimental juggernaut in last game
>>578532673Hoodwink and Mirana were the most picked heroes this TIInsane
>>578533096Does he play Arc Warden, or any pseudo carries like Dawnbreaker or QoP?
they are using steam machines and steam decks to calculate the damn points for the event, that's why it takes literally days to go through this tine dataset
>>578533178because your supports don't pick save heroes or buy save items, and you don't buy shadowblade or group with your team. the only thing he can do after 20 minutes is blink omnislash somebody.
>>578533053counterplay should not have the effect of completely neutralizing an entire hero, especially 1 pos
>>578532673miposhka is an enchGOD thoubeit
unfortunate
>>578533053There's too many items and spells that invalidate his existence
>>578533186By playing exactly like they've been playing for the last 6 months
>>578533440LC does well in pubs but is useless in pro play because people just group up instead of walking around alone getting picked off like in pubs.
>absolutely nothing happened>BH suddenly becomes first pick/ban because people are maxing exort first meta is a joke
>>578533474Yikes no wonder she hides behind her vtuber avatar
>>578533367and also the most losing. they're fucking pub heroes for people who are forced to support that don't want to support.they don't deal enough damage to warrant having 0 save, and their team fight presence is negligible.
>went online after months to see if any of the old d2gers still play>immediately got hit with DMs as soon as I went onlinethat guy's pc is 100% infected right? I already unfriended and blocked him
Spirit have won 0% of all the real Tis
>>578533454True but puppey was like the first deerbeliever so they cancel each other out
>>578533396I think I saw him playing Arc once and he lost. Dont remember his DB at all. And I think he played QoP once long time ago
>>578532336meds
Hoodwink is confirmed to be useless dogshit, where are the buffs?
how do I stop my spirit bear from autoattacking constantly?this was never the case before, what changed?
>>578533737thank you, exactlypost-pandemic dota is not real dota the last real TI was TI9
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
Coordinator is back and yeah the items can't be traded or gifted
>>578533885read settings.
I agree that it's a bad pick, but I also don't understand the build choice. I am good with Jugg at my low MMRs and understand what I need to do to win. And obviously low MMR Dota isn't TI dota. But he is literally 7 slotted, has to switch items with his backpack...why not build the the aghanim scepter. Doesn't take a slot, gives you some stats.... a quick nuke while being invulnerable.... like what's there not to like. Better than having a manta in your backpack.One part of the fight they catch collapse alone, omnislash+stun him, collapse dies.... but the rest of the team arrives from the high ground. A fight happens, jugg doesnt have omnislash to fight back. They lose heroes and overall it's a loss for them. I don't get it. If you built aghs and abyssal, the swiftslash + abyssal stun wouldve been enough to kill Collapse and you can keep your omnislash for a teamfight instead of a pick-off. Whole different situation.
>>578533736yea i got my steam account fished earlier tooinvited me to stand in to some pickup games then once i log in to their seperate website its like "oops nevermind"And then someone in EU is logging into my accountSite looked super legitimate too
>>578533737Ti10 was the last and best oneCope
lollmao
>>578534121and people say he's good, but noone even picked himbaka
>>578534062the DMs the guy was sending were links with $50 steam bucks coupons, I dont even know the guy, I friended him to get a deadlock invite months ago
Any TI with russians in the winning team is a fraud TI
>>578534121I'm really freaking out.
I don't follow dota that much anymore.What was 4chan's and reddit's reaction when russians got top 4?Also what are current memes and happenings? Anything got announced at TI? New hero?
>>578534235yea thats an obvious scam
>>578534372we were rooting for nigma for the most part adn valve didn't announce anything, they are trying to kill the game I think
>>578531597He called gyro a shit hero. He hasn't played carry venge or io. Negative wr on alch, luna, spectre, mk, kez
>>578534372we hate russians, yatoro gets a pass because he's not russianreddit hates puppey meanwhile d2g loves himno announcementno new hero
>>578534372not super surprising because everyone knew at least half the teams the top teams are russian
>>578534372russians winning TI is literally why valve nuked the prize pool after the war startedfucking putin killing dota
>forced 50 isn't realthen how do you argue against this?
Wasn't Puppey mean to Kaci in her early years at one TI? I recall him being a jerk during some interview.
>>578532768>2 months agothere was an ancient clip where he swore 6 slotted jug will beat naix and a viewver bet against him and he lost. I can't find it though.I'm not remembering it wrong do I?
>>578534372They announced that the game has become too big and stale, so they’re going to scale it back. Expect something closer to dota 6 ish to come back
>A bunch of random joke players with the power of friendship>The first team ever to win TI twice, doing it two years in a row>With the EXACT same 5 player lineup in a pro scene where players are shuffled constantlyDota's main story ended here.
>>578534678you like them because they're white
>>578534372i got a few good ones i could use down the line
>TI ended >"pros" or as I would call them - Paycheck Stealers suddenly come out of hiding with their copes>>578533673how about training instead of complaining Sir Ari of Iron Wing?>>578533737such a hypocrite, aren't you, Ceb?>>578534250Fuck off chinaman, you all look the same, can't even tell whos typing.
>>578534678>devs stopped caring to the point that the same lineup can win two years in a rowYeah it died just after the first time they won
>>578534372Yatoro is Ukraine. Ukraine won TI.
>>578534561Ukrainians are just redneck Russians, and the whole 'war' started because a third of their country would rather identify as Russians instead of Ukrainians.
>>578531938Was he always that pudgy?
What's going on dotards
>>578534372i forgot to save the clip where his team did fistbump him
>>578534643https://streamable.com/vu9urLearn to use the archive, though why it's not on youtube I don't know
They should try Artifact again but make it more like Marvel Snap. That game also had three lanes but is more successful.
>>5785333503.3m is considered a honeypot lan too
>>578534858it started because despite 30 years of evidence to the contrary, russians thought they could win wars
>>578534938We all knew it was the last TI, but we didn't know it would also be the last dota game ever.
well, I tried to play my 1 daily match of dota.
>>578533986Made me check. Coordinator is down and fantasy didnt update
>china dota = dead>sumail = quit>puppey = lost>sword of allah = lost>arteezy = gambling on stream>russian Z putin players = win TI again>33 stack = disband>falcons = disband>TI announcements = zeroI don't think things could look more grim than this
>>578534678>won solely by abusing the broken char(twice)>can't do shit after nerfsTrash stack, trash org
Please valve. Just one more battlepass for the next TI, make it 50 million dollars.
>>578531938yatoro won despite extra-weight debuff (-confidence).
>>578532673The raping of jugg by ta Foods would go crazy over a book like that
>>578534951They fistbumped in that clip too, I just cut it out because it looked funnier that way>>578535056Well then it went back down again, also I never said the fantasy updated I was just able to look at the rewards screen again
>>578534971is that actually from 2017?not very relevant for current patch then
Do you think Satanic had a moment when he received orders from Puppey to pick Juggernaut where he thought "what the fuck, no" but had to select him anyway?
>>578535195man I want him to win TI so much now, what a likeable guy
>>578534058scepter doesn't give you stats once its consumed and the short slash is just a complete liability to where jugg will land, which is a big deal in pro dota. He was saving the money for moonshard and buyback.
watching random low viewer streamerscrazy items to have at 37min
LD has to be in the top 5 most cancerous characters, prove me wrong
>>578535310>juggNNOOOOOOOOOO DON'T PICK THAT HERO
So wait no new hero and no more TI?!
>>578534971>the archive (which one?)>streamable (what is that)I mean I don't even know how I would search for that. thanks though
>>578535310lol, is that some mexican unc
Now what dotards
>>578535310this is what you have to do when your team is complete fucking garbage. he has more than half their total kills lol
>>578534121You know it's weird since I played a game recently against a treantThis nigger is ANNOYING AS FUCK the damage block is genuinely insane he basically insta wins or draws the lane, he can never lose the best you get is a draw lane
/ourdotard/ was supposed to be the first player to win TI three times...
>>578535467same time same placenext year
>>578535467queue juggernaut and show em what's up
>>578534121how come no one even tried to counter it? not even a single game
>>578535467we go sleep and go to work tomorrow
>>578535310>Still has more than half his team's killsWhat fucking MMR is this?
>>578535467Back to your regularly scheduled Ench/Hoodwink/Marci-posting
>>578535467we start playing the game again, we have to save dota, the white man needs to lift the aegis once more.
>>578534951The way everyone looks at each other but don't interact with one another at all makes it look like AI lol
>>578535416he's from south africaqueuing on Europe East + West + Russia regions
>>578535306>LikeableHe was a dick, though. But I wonder if playing with Russians just made him like that or if he just got wiser as he got older
>>578535587I only play turbo though. When will there be a Turbo TI?
>>578535306Vova is cursed.if he couldn't win during his prime in golden vp - he won't win now. He partially was the reason the lost too. Swapping ember/io and then FP voker.
>>578535010Russians have just won the War of the Ancients for the third time, lmao
Why the fuck is Sumail retiring?
Do you think 87k fantasy is enough to remain in 97th percentile or will I have to start sucking mailman dick for meth money
>>578535553countering 0 items pos 5 is a fool's errand
Marci is BUILT for beast cock
>>578535585Hoodwink won the waifuwars by being the most picked hero in TI
If Jugg didn't die in fountain could they have won or was it already lost at that point?>>578535742My Fantasy doesn't even calculate correctly, my support has been displaying as 0 points the whole time and now so is mid.
>>578535742Maybe if valve bans all of the bot accounts that people always make for this, like they did last year.
>>578535403https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/bsj%20jugg%20lifestealer/Easy to find old shit when you know what to search for, plus I knew someone had linked the video before because I remember them talking about it
>>578535723He's old man, think he's 30 or something
>>578535467back to painting warhammer
>>578535639Then there is this too. dude had an EGObroke items, threw pubs, afked QUINN styleThen wasted 1-2 years of his career "showing" offlaners and carries how it's done.
>>578535902He's only 27
>>578535902Haha no way there's anyone that old still playing Dota get real.
>>578535849nah, they already spent everything
>>578535882Where's Ench wearing a tight as fuck Spirit shirt that can barely contain her milkers
Never forget the Game 3 choke masterclass
>win 3rd TI>lose the drow immortalJUST
25 most picked heroesdid pros overrate hoodwink?
Screw slavic people, they ruined dota and took the pro scene too
>>578536079It was a hoodie in 2024 so logic dictates it should be a bra but she doesn't wear one so...
>>578536221This doesn't tell the whole story, Treant would be number 1 but he was permabanned basically.
>>578534372nobody really cares
>>578535792She needs buffs
>>578531253I mean he is but because of his plays now results. This credentialism should be reserved for SEA Topson fans. Fucking Tundra.Nine has won a TI.
dota died when kuroky thought "nigma" was a good team name
>>578536297well here's ordered by banned+picked
I hate arrogant pro players so collapse is no goat of mine
>>578536297Treant is shit...
Remove wisdom shrineRemove tormentorRemove neutral item rngRemove bottom and top sections of neutrals
sex with hoodwink
>>578536398never gets old
>>578535514have tangos in inventory at 40 minutes?
>>578531253>win three tis and still insecure
>>578536464he's just like me
>>578536390*not results
>>578535792She lost every match she was in in the grand finals though so that's major points deducted, at least Ench won one
>>578536464>im a chink manletholy based
bros I still can't forget how Collapse managed to put lotus on Yatoro before getting Omni'd, how is that reaction even fucking possible?
>>578536454Dotard? >>578536425
>>578536425Treant will be unchanged. Hoodwink will get nerfed.
>>578536265I'll be waiting
>>578536297I remember back near the start of Dota or so Treant was busted as absolute fuck but nobody really realised it because nobody wanted to play him and it functioned best with a minor amount of communication. Living armor gave like 20 consistent damage block per level + regen and had 100% uptime and global cast and basically made whoever it was cast on immortal.Your carry and mid could just dive towers and shit before 5 minutes.Feels bad not abusing it heavily before the nerf, after that they tightened down on the bullshit.
DO NOT PICK JUGGDO NOT PICK JUGGI MUST IMPLORE YOUDO NOT PICK JUGG
>>578536221Yes, by a shitload.The hero is weak as shit and a detriment to your team.Why pick a hero that does everything poorly instead of a hero that does some things well?
>>578531326They're saving the announcement for tomorrow, the 30th anniversary of Valve.
>>578535902So? I'm 37.
>stygian roll wins the gameMeth "Luck is a skill" poshka, triple winner.
>>578536872that's what Ame says when he wakes up in the middle of the night from his nightmares
Jugg = 4chanSven = reddit
specter > jugg
jug did no damage to lsthey needed deso+stygian+ac+vlad on the 4 supports and rapier on jug to have a chance
>>578536969>no True Sight>we will never learn if it was Ame's choice or if Xiao8 forced him to pick and play Jugger
>>578536872i'm picking jug
>>578536736it wasn't a reaction, he actually fucked up by using ion shell first (which you would never risk in a situation like that), he just got extremely lucky and accidentally baited satanic.
>>578537180I dunno
old dota was so bad and easy that we had a team full of ooga booga greeks almost win a major
>>578536872HAAAAAANKHAAAAAANKDO NOT PICK JUGGERNAUT IN GAME 5HAAAAANK
>me omw to pick jugg in TI final finals
>>578537297Collapse has insane reaction time but here I think it was mostly luck. He meant to put a lotus on pango but didn't mean to bait omni like that
>>578537297cheating?
why did the game shit the bed now?
>would've done better than Juggernaut in your path
>>578537451CHAD.finem were peak dota
>>578537297its just too fast, i genuinely dont think its humanly possible, especially without vision. also way too risky to do intentionally.
>>578536736this is just something you do when you know theres a fed jugg on the enemy team you hover lotus
Will puppey be executed for his actions?
>>578537586Yeah sure, wouldn't be the first time, if I can be bothered I'll get one from his perspective
>>578537180>Cast Animation: 0.3You absolutely can react to this on lanHuman reaction time is 0.2~If you are NA playing on EU with 100 ping, its impossible yeaBut they are on 0 pingso its actually tons of time
>>578536964stygian is just op, it increases (physical) damage more than regalia even vs high armor targets and vs lower armor targets increases dmg a lot more
>>578537721magsussy
this is the image of TI, please save it, I'm posting it for the last time
>>578537297yeah he probably did it to prevent omni but then timing just worked out perfectly
>>578537976>pick hoodwink>losehuh
>>578535467Cry about russians in your pubs
what I will say might be retarded but isn't it pretty much normal to put lotus/linken at your teammate when he plans on jumping to the enemy tower to force the enemy into a fight?
Has the deer vs squirrel pussy debate finally been settled?
>>578538051Proof that she is getting buffs.
>>578536464Is this actually ana??
and this one someone said it means "puppey wash your face"
can we queue now
>>578538081No we're still debating it, it's a very long and very hard ordeal lol
>>578537586>>578537721Aren't those pcs giga sandboxed by the organizers?
>>578535310link ?
>>578537721whats going on here tho
>>578538067it's not retarded it's literally basic shit even your rando pubbsisters will do
>redditors and NPCs think OMG LE INHUMAN REACTION TIME and not just pure absolute coincidenceIf you never had moments like that in your games, you never played dota.It happens frequently, except this time it was in grand final.
>>578538231Ench had a better track record in TI
>>578538081You need to post some squirrel pussy and deer pussy so we can compare them
>>578537721>he moves screen with middle mouse>he checks botwhat am I supposed to see here?
>>578538291reacting to a 0.3 cast time on lan is absolutely fucking normal thing that literally anyone can doIDIOT
>>578538250You can set locations as control groups I think, that's all>>578538293Ok but probably not the best metric to measure for fuckability
>>578538112Holy fucking shit....
>>578537783I guess its debatable, but i just dont think he meant to use it that way (on reaction). I think its much more plausible that he just used it because its the obvious thing to do but the timing was accidental.>>578538067yes, but its more about the perfect bait timing, which is too precise to be intentional.
I can’t cope it was Noone’s turn
>>578538436yes? You aren't that much of a shitter are you?
>>578538291That's why Starcraft is dead
>>578537650she gets gaped by seer
Where's Solo?
I CANT QUEUE
>>578538412Nothing it was just a joke because it looks weird in motion, people were talking about it being rigged when it happened and I saw that and recorded it but it wasn't serious
>>578538629soloing
>>578528029>guy who quit dota because "it's community was too toxic"
you're just outing yourself hard as a sub 2k mmr if you think collapse couldn't humanly lotus yatoro therehe LITERALLY bought the lotus orb to defend someone from the omni, playing the game his head will be constantly aware of it and ready to press the button when he sees jugg going towards a target because he knows the first thing jugg will do is press R
Any youtubers who do recaps and montages of TI moments?
>>578538629Who do you think is in charge of the 322 mafia?
>>578538548He is likely sitting there with his mouse hovering over the pango because he KNOWS he can react to itBut possible its just coincidence he was casting it before pango rolled out of rangeIt's not debatable, they are pros on lan, they can react to 0.2 sometimes, they WILL react to 0.3 every single time
>>578538436LAN doesn't exist at all in tournaments. They still have to use Valve's servers.
>>578538815maybe if he was ready and pre-targettedyou can probably tell from replay if you really want to know
>>578538629hooking russian kids and salarymen to gambling, streaming to dead souls. Bookie media wageslave.
>coordinator is STILL down
I already do that to juggs as a support so you niggas just need to git gud
>>578539101dota 3 incoming
>>578538456>You can set locations as control groups I think, that's allYep yep. That's something I need to implement too. I'm going to set at least all 3 T1 lanes.
what's this 13 mana boi meme i'm seeing
I'm sure it's a reaction, also that desert map seems to fuck with the FPS for some reason
>>578538923pros fuck up way more lenient timings all the time. just look at the sheer amount of late bkbs and countless other misplays that happen regularly. he also had hoodwink right next to him so he just used it immediately after ion shell and hoped for the best.
>>578539292yea quick castand hes ready for itEasily done on 0 ping
I miss miracle-, the best and most skilled player to ever play this game
You can tell Valve's heart is not in it anymore, the post game production or any sort of content related to the game is non existant, no gaben appearance either, now its just grind slop and 15 dollar skins
Where's that dotard who insisted that Dark Seer was unviable
>>578539440gaben hasn't been at TI in years anon
>>578539536he doesn't even pretend to play the game anymore, he used to say he played sand king every day
>>578539464is this real
>>578539464how is this possible? can you really teach kittens tricks at that age????
>>578539609TI is still the only thing he actually shows his face for
>no dota 3>no 8.00>coordinator down>russia won tinice game dotards
>>578538550>We didn't get to see Noone cry of joy while lifting the Aegis>Got Yatoro and Collapse being cocky instead
>>578539651they're wild kittens city cats lose that instinct
>>578539464i still dont know how to play darkseer
>>578539684He was in the Half-life anniversary things, it's not like there's much for him to show up for anyways
>>578539772>Pugna unpicked in TI>Persona is just some mech instead of the promised bratty loli Pugna/d2g/ lost
>>578539807you get big dollah with your free radiance and make people uncomfy
>>578539916loli pugna has nothing to do with pugnamore just some oc you faggots pretend to be pugna
>had to get the censored version because i don't wanna seem like a total creep when i have people over>have to wait a month for the order to even shipbleak
guys we'll play dota 2 for 2 months and then we'll all be playing aion 2 anyway
>>578535792
>>578539807>hand out ion shells like Oprah>vacuum cliff supports>maybe plop down a wall>??>win
>>578540020Hoodwink is extremely breedable
>>578540018are you the aion2 shill from /wwmg/ back then?
>>578539772>bullies 17yo Nightfall and Save- breaking their mental foreverhe doesn't deserve it.
dark seer used to be the second best jungling hero after enigma in the good old days when the game was good
>>578540014anon the art is so fucking ugly please get some taste
>>578540168he likes hoodshit he doesn't know what that is
>>578539993It fits the lore. One of current Pugna's three potential reincarnations was a girl, so a persona for her would work within the lore.
>>578540168There are literally 0 other hoodwink daki options, unless you make your own.
>>578540127no, dont play gachas, lol>>578540159nightfall needs to be bullied more and more, he's a massive choker
>>578540312commission someone then you clearly have money
>top streams: HenryTHAT NIGGA'S STILL PLAYING? LOL
>Dark Seer winning TI My nigga MC would be proud
>>578539916That would be a strange hero to gender-swap in a persona all things considered. It's only been human-like ones so far. Got to hope DotA PP gets noticed by Valve like Purge somehow for that to happen but they don't care anymore.
>>578540378How are they streaming games? Coordinator is down.
>>578538629Processing the winnings
>>578540014First of all I can guarantee no one is coming over to start with and secondly you'd still come off as a creep anyways
>>578540214Loli Pugna is just the next master of oblivion in training, the "automaton pugna" is a red herring.
I'm really wondering what happens to the Chinese scene, are they just gonna completely give up?
>EE used to bully pldI always knew he was evil
>>578540159You don't get it.no[o]ne made them chokers, they were teammates. Him and Solo are scum.VP 2019-2020
They aren't adding a loli to the game you fucking pedos
>>578540159>>578540635QRD? Source, maybe? I wasn't aware. He seems like a wholesome chungus guy.
>>578540487Pugna would be one of the most fitting gender-swaps due to the reincarnation lore and one of the candidates of the current Pugna being a girl. Wei has way (heh, wei way) less justification but they still made her a persona for AM.
>>578540696Oh but a young boy with unique lines for QoP, that's ok
>>578540604Yes, just like NA
>>578540604They're all playing Honor of Kings.
>>578540604What can they do. Sweatshops dont work themselves.
>>578540832That's the Shota Exception. Like when South Park dedicated a whole episode to shota yaoi. Imagine if it was loli yuri: they'd be cancel before the episode stopped airing.
>>578540779It's not really about the lore. More so, how do you gender swap a child's skeleton to female? It just wouldn't be significant enough, if that makes sense. Loli Pugna would look nothing like the fan-arts also that's for sure.
Team Spirit just won the cs2 Esports world cup as well for the double crown. Very based! Z
>>578540992this is fake, majority of chink kids play gacha while spending parents' money over there
>>578540734qrd is that vp fell apart and there were these new young players, of which Nightfall (epilektic then) and save were brought into main squad. Then they brought noone or solo back after kicking them I dont remember the details but they were buttfuckmad and "asserted" dominance in their "team" which has already kicked them once n stuff. Sources: vlogs from that time, probably lost media and the fact that they never played together ever again, much so communicated.
GRUBBY
Why was the prizepool the highest when it was the same shit, must be all those 6 7 voicelines
>>578541147Gacha circumvent the restrictions on games by not being games
>>578541227which waifu is that
>>578541147Using daddy's credit card to whale skins for your waifu isn't the same as trying to use his ID to register for local tourneys
>>578541259satanic was much more based with the itachi egoisto keyboard
>>578541343Valve really cooked with this little semen demon.
>>578540635>Him and Solo are scumramzess aswell, maybe the only one who had any resemblance of morality in 2019 VP was 9pasha
>>578541114I see what you mean, but they could still keep her a skeleton and I feel that the voice acting with new voice lines could put in a lot of work to give her her own personality.
>>578541343Chink gatchas are truly something....
>>578541437I left the stupid twitch chat icon in the corner for that one, bugs me every time I see it
>>578541496that's gook gacha actually
Man if only I hadn't bought into the Liquid and Nigma bandwagon deep down I knew these guys were dogshit but they played early games so I acted on hearsay
8.00 will bring Grubby back
>>578541496>>578541668korean and chinese governments made them censor this slop btw
POST ROSTER LEAKS NOW
>>578541568Hardly noticeable. I'm too focused on hoodwink's hips.
This was the best grand finals in years, actually.
>>578541496korean gacha companies should be put in charge of redesigning every hero
>>578541902>afterparty is not even overrelax buddy, have a drink or two
>>578541496I want to play your game now, whats it called
>>578540734>He seems like a wholesome chungus guythats because you dont speak his native language, could have just opened his stream at back in the days: massive ego, despises everyone around him. No wonder with such captain as 322 solo.
>>578541951it was certain a complete toss up who would win until game 5then game 5 was extremely lopsided for the first 20 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsgmpHmmWWgSUKA BYLAT
>>578542008search for d2g on the catalog
>>578541423>itachi egoisto keyboardpost it
i didn't know we hated solo
>>578542056larl casually dropping FAGGOTS after winning
My helm of the dominator is going to be nerfed again because these fuckers keep free farming side camps while defending tower with dominated creep, just bring fucking necronomicon back at this point.
>>578535467im gonna play the warhammer 3 dlc
thank god i leave that shit in 2018
>have a lot of new potential players view the event on twitch and youtube>coordinator is down for hours now when they try to check it out
pls tag me when queue is open again
>>578542231That's like a month from now
>>578542401time flies when youre 30+
>>578537534Would Matu still keep playing if he wasn't kicked?
I can queue just fine in the south american servers, it might be a problem only for europeans servers
>>578542260It's up for me
is team spirit the most successful esports org?talking about the whole scene not just dotathey just won both TI and EWC in on the same day
>>578531029the only thing i learned from this TI is that they need to buff jugg
>>578542260in the time it took you to type that post, valve made more money off the 30% store sale cut than a lifetime of spending from any potential loss here
Should I?
>>578542539stay in your shithole server
We witnessed one of the most even and unpredictable Game 5s in all of TI history. It literally came down to that one Nightmare save y Bane and Yatoro finally manfighting and getting the upper hand vs Jugg. Then an epic saving Private Satanic chase to win it all.And how's the cast? NOTHING MEMORABLE.Give me one quote in that final game that you remember.Anything to the level of DING DING DING MOTHERFUCKER.orPATIENCE FROM ZHOU.orIT'S A DISASTER.orALLIANCE ARE DOING IT.or even one of Ayesee's one-liners.None. 0. Zip. Nada.This is the state of this game's casting FOR YEARS. 0 build up. 0 story. 0 true hype.ALL SHOUT SHOUT SHOUT.I bet none from this Grand Finals will be remembered in terms of lines but only that Jugg is a flubbed pick (it wasn't) and Yatoro and Collapse are GOAT TI players.I knew Spirit could win and I rooted for them, even won $200 from side bets with friend. I just wish it were casted better.
which games should i watchi went to sleep after megas in game 2
>>578542538Probably not dude seemed too chill to continue
oh I got into a game
dota 2 is the best game ever made, hands down, it only has one problem: you can't goon while you play itthat's why you also need a gooning game like warthunder or aion 2
>>578542739naw
>>578542575Spirit liquid and T1.
>>578542739yes
>>578542739>never played hoodwinkIt's time anon
SO WHO WILL GET NERFED?>POTM>LD>EARTH SPIRIT>NAIX>HOODWINK>DOOM>CENTAUR>JUGG : ^ )I WANT PA BUFF REEEEEEE
>>578542739Yes
>>578543080is there a patch where doom hasnt been nerfed...
>>578542394Remember when dotards thought this would be an epic dual creep hero release
need to download the replay and slowmo rewatch in client too much shit going on in that last fight
>>578542739only if its fun
sad the grand prize was so dogshit, puts a damper on what looks like an otherwise kino tournament
they should give artifact another chance, the game was fun...
When are we doing /d2g/ational?
>>578538247https://www.twitch.tv/ricardopotts
>>578541375https://www.maxgaming.com/en/mousepads/tenshi-graphic-gaming-mousepad-white
>fell asleep during the finals>wake up>watch the last two games>pick hoodwink>loseevery time
>>578540734>NOONE>WHOLESOMELMAO, it's like saying GPK is a saint. the ufck
>>578543080>hoodwink the free lose hero>nerfedShe's getting buffed
>1 year until next ti
doom lost every single game I saw him picked in, what is with this character? the ult is clearly not enough
so... no announcement?
>>578543615>>578543217Icefrog sometimes loves to kick heroes who are already loss magnets down even more and put them in a deeper hole.Bat and Io never had good winrate in pubs, and then eventually even in comp, and he further erfed them
I just want jugg to get buffed and tiny to get his Avatoss combo back, as well as kunkkas waterpark Bring those 3 back and we are good
>>578543682He's a chunky str hero who can rice decently well even on offlane to buy auras, and a blink dagger to initiate with some jungle creep skill, while his ult is a long duration silence + DoT to shut most heroes that don't rely on rightclicks out of the fight. Problem is, he can't secure kills easily by himself and can't manfight, so his scaling is bad, and Linkens/Lotus Orb can easily cause him to waste his ult if he's not careful.
Dotards... I forgot to make my predictions...
Hoodwink is only good against shittersDespite having an overloaded as fuck kit she doesnt have nearly enough utility to be viable and her ult is a way way worse silver edge
>>578534678>the power of friendshipthe funny thing is, people keep believing in this bullshit
wonder what that satanigga is thinking right now
if I make it to 95th I'll take the drow immortal because of yatoro then
Spirit WonOG LostLiquid Lost
have the percentiles been updated
>>578543080treant>current shard back to aghs>current aghs level 25 (adjust numbers etc)>change to the retarded imba invsmirana>no free frost arrow that costs 0 mana (wtf was that change)earth spirit>increase cooldown on ult, make it deal less damage>hoodwinkshould not scale as well as it does>centaurchange/nerf aghs, remove helm of the dominator from the game (can't be balanced, similar issue to necrobook)>doomchange aghs and shard upgrades>ldbear always has 0 mana. make it so it can get damage from agi items but not statuses (so if it gives 30 agility, bear gets 30 damage but no armor/atk speed etc)
remember when team spirit won for the first time Putin called them?
>>578544114>shitty damage spell that scales with attack damage on a hero that never builds attack damage>shitty stun that gets ended by random shit or enemies having a tree cut script (50% chance in pubs)>shitty spell that makes you run faster and lets you pass through trees (irrelevant with all the mobility creep in the game)>shitty skillshot nuke with century long windup that barely deals any damage and applies an effect that's useless against 90% of heroes>rng innate that griefs her stun assuming it even does anything>2.0 BAT>dogshit talentsUnironically one of the worst heroes in the game
I CAN'T QUEUE
>>578542045>>578541262Thanks for the QRD.>>578543545I know better now.
>>578542394Coordinator is up for me right now.
>>578544534>>hoodwink>should not scale as well as it doesShe scales horribly though, falls off hard as fuck after level 12.
>>578536964The next IceFrog after the current one fully transcends to Yoshi and moves to Deadlock
well you cant fault me for believing /d2g/
For the past 5 years jugg like PA has been constantly nerfed despite having 0 tournament results or even pub dominance. I seriously don't get it
>>5785448506th highest total stat gain, 2nd of agility heroes and 5th highest agility gain but keep coping that she won't get nerfed
Will PA and Visage ever be viable again?
>OGin the dumpster>Nigmain the dumpster>SpiritYoung and will probably win 1-2 more TIs as per Yatoro's goal.He's still hungry. He literally won the largest TI in existence and he still wanted more. The prize pool does not matter. The stars do. He will be a 5-star general once he retires from Dota.Shame his home is at war. Hopefully his family is safe and sound so he rides to the sunset in the future.
>pick furry whore>losekekaroo!
if you pick ogre at any capacity you need to have your throat slit like you're a muslim cow
>>578545268>high stat gain >on a hero that can't utilize itWho gives a shit also she has shit STR gain
kek imagine seething about ogre magisomeone got pure skilled
>>578545516She has built in (scaling) evasion and as you know an ability that scales off of attack damage
I personally believe Jugg was an all right pick in that draft but the problem is itemisation and it's not Aghs like most morons are rambling about, it's that Satanic kitted his Jugg in a way that he relied way too fucking much on omni. He should've Skadi + Basher + Bloodthorn and Nullifier that bitch. He would never win a manfight against LS with the way he kitted his Jugg.He had like 2k hp in the end that's also why he died, if he neutered the bane + potm instead of trying to kill the LS, I think their map movements would've been better and more aggressive since they want the supports more than the LS.But then Spirit also had their minimap movement to the tee.
>>578545576op hero in turbo
>>578545365>big mean pubstompers that make supports cryno
>>578531029>ti10 final day sticky posts: 18313 (started at 7am UTC, pinned 1 hour in advance, 8/8)>ti11 final day sticky posts: 13592 (started at 4am UTC, pinned 1 hour in advance, 6/8)>ti12 final day sticky posts: 10833 (started at 5pm UTC, pinned 3 hours in advance, 5/8)>no stickies after>ti15 (started at 2am UTC, pinned in my head, 7/8) 390+970+809+1081+836+836+804+818+925+799=8268
>>578540014Is really the nudity where your draw the line on whether your cartoon squirrel furry hug pillow is creepy or not?
>>578545735although some immortals in here could correct me but i really think it's his itemization.
>>578540214Pugna is canonically a 6 year old boy.You are all just pederasts and you know it.Also even if he ended up in a girls body, it would have turned her skeletal anyway.
>>578543682he's useful in a meta sense he wins when he's picked to shut down a star player than a hero
>>578545870With sticky we would surpass TI12Mods better sticky next TI
>>578543080doom needs a buff
>Yatoro>name sounds chinese>looks chinese>is actually slavalso wtf is with the post delay on here, utter dogshit compare to real boards
>>578546034ok that makes a lot of sense. too bad you can just go rape his face for free any time he is trying to farm a lane alone
>>578538550>>578539772You are way too invested in whether certain 20 something yos who make what you make all year from a 2 week tournament and will never know you exist are the ones that win a match or not.
>>578546202>looks chinesenigga whathe looks like every other pigfaced rusky
Puppey did his best and that's what matters.
>>578540605He came on gorgc's stream (where pld was on) some time ago and they seemed pretty friendly with each other. I think he was the one that invited him and said they're still in contact.
Sticky..........
This TI was a fluke. PV are the better team they just sharted drafts super hard.
>>578546838It's been quite cool actually
>>578546268That's some weird projecting bro
>>578546285What about them makes their women hot as fuck but the guys look like actual creatures...
fuck this guy for ruining my fantasy score
mfw
>>578546838my underpants are all sticky from doing jiggies :)
When do we get to see the final placement and get our rewards?
>>578547080centuries of rape
any oldfags here?How was Frostivus 2012?
>>578547080fantasy race
>>578547460Took 4 days last year
>>578547080Yuuki Yuuna owe me sex
>>578545384Yatoro has enough money to move his entire family wherever he wants. Most of his countrymen that left don't plan on going back anyway.
>>578545735Why did he rush MKB? Just the Radiance miss chance?
>>578540832Link? I can't find it, is it on the alt pack?
>>578547090You ruined yourself there mate.Now a buddy of mine who picked Nisha, man he got fucked.
>>578547615I tsays 97th percentile right now, I hope that it doesn't drop below 95%...
>>578547090you ruined it yourself with these stats bropeople were scoring 40k with him
>>578547839Yes. Most likely.
>>578547509https://liquipedia.net/commons/images/2/2b/Vo_announcer_dlc_tusk_tusk_ann_evil_greevils_appear_06.mp3Shit but I barely played it, people were posting a lot of spurdo Tusk though>>578547942https://liquipedia.net/commons/images/7/73/Vo_invoker_kidvoker_rival_79.mp3Well it's hardly anything bad but still they considered it
>>578548041Doesn't it become pretty shitty when the Lifestealer disassembles the Radiance into a Nullifier? Is it really worth buying?
>no esport>no coordinator what a terrible night to be a dota fan
how many poitns ddi you guys do in the fantasy on this second phase? the points, not the percentile
>>578548545~97k
>>578548545only 93k, im fucked
>>57854854587k or so
>>578548823You're closer to the top than you are to the bottom and considering maybe it counts people who scored 0 it should still be high percentile
>>578548040I didn't get green stat rerolls
>>578549082yeah, same herei was 98% after the group stage, i think I should get into 90%, maybe 95% if im luckyi guess we'll see
>my support gets off a clutch pull>feel good and fuzzy inside>tip them>2 minutes pass>I die>they tip mefuck off man
>>578549357Wut? 80-90k is bad? There's no way the drop will be that brutal is there
I genuinely don't understand how you're supposed to play jugg, you either do no damage in spin, do no damage in ult, or get shredded and cc'd if you're right clicking and doing damage. I feel like I'd rather see my juggs just buy a fucking bkb half the games Im supporting them anyway.
why didnt he grip the lifestealer before he got into melee range of the invoker?
>>578548392Yes. MKB is a useless item.
>>578549791That's not grip
>>578549529people instinctively think that tipping is done in a BM way so don't do it for good plays
>>578549791based retardbro
>>578549563idk man, i feel like there were some shit choices made here and ppl good at it should score higher, but most of ppl are absolutely shit and not even trying, so i'm still hoping for 95% anyway
>>578549739Jugg needs to be slightly reworked, he is too item dependant/hungry.Perhaps if he would get cleave with no battlefury he could work in competitive. Or if shard for instance gave him cleave on crits.
>>578550063They seem to hate passives as shards though as a design, I thought they phased all of those out
>>578549739Blade Fury should have a toggle that lets you switch between physical and magical
I say swap +1 omni duration with -60s omnislash cooldownLvl 15 talent (right now -15s omni cooldown) with +50% slow resistance after bladefury (6 second buff)then see what happens and go from there. 120s on omnislash in lategame is hard to justify with how easy it is to cuck it
If Jugg had got a proper Tier 5 neutral and won the game you'd be calling him OP, look at this garbage
>>5785503541 minute cd omni does not change the fact that if the game stalls and jugg's team cannot end/drive the advantage further, they lose. he is still a creep outside his omnislash and it still could be easily countered by items like aeon disk/windwaker. if only, if only there was an item that is a direct counter to such bullshit that omni can't deal with, maybe satanic could've built that.
>>578550495My poor pubs.
>>578550495>next patch>str/int/agi heroes will now have 1 set tier 5 neutral itemsyou just know that icefraud got a little disappointed it turned like that especially in game 5 of TI.neutrals are stupid and they should be removed.
>>578550602You mean Nullifier? Diffusal blade?
>>578550495>didn't go withbaneself cleanse is gay compared to a shit illusion that did nothing i guess
>>578550495Nah jugg is a bait pick, I fucking beg my pos 1 never to play him
>>578550748he means aghs>>578550737tier 5 neutrals can stay but as recipes that unlock after 60 minutes
jugg rapes my low mmr pub so pls dont buff him anymore
>>578550748Nullifier. Nullifier solves his troubles. His team had enough disables to not let LS, BKB/Rage. They did it many times in the game.It might still get neutered by Lotus Orb (first use priority) but having a Nullifier literally repels a 6800 item that's used to save someone from omni like Windwaker.
>>578550971This.
Hoodwink needs a new innate and buffs to her acorn shot and talents so physical builds become viable.
>day after ti>all the tourists and secondaries are acting like hot shit and flaming the 12/2 mid while theyre 0/7this is always the most miserable time to be a normal player
>Yatoro won TI10>he could've already gloated about winning the last TI that's relevant and had the highest prize pool>no, he goes for 2 moreBASED?
Yatoro's choices, I mean I guess he got 2 shit ones as well
>>578551194i wish i loved this game as much as him
>>578551253I wonder if stygian does more damage than regalia, not including the benefit of allies also whaling on the target. Someone do the calcs
>>578551253>>578550495Name a single good reason why "neutral items" should exist in Dota 2.
>>578551253Regalia + Evolved/Fleetfooted literally is unfair for LS.If Satanic got those, he probably destroyed and killed Yatoro in that last fight.
>>578551130What are they flaming mid for?
>>578551408think about the poor supports!
>>578551130>day after tiits not though? it ended 6 hours ago
>>578551408There really is no point, garbage mechanic.They should also simplify the map.
>>578551324>tfw he does it for his one true waifu Drow to the point that he even begged for an immortal despite already wining the Aegis of the Immortals thrice
>>578551348Fleetfooted Stygian is literally the best you can hope for on Naix
>>578551408fun :)
I was so tired I feel asleep mid-match and didnt even remember they picked juggernaut. Why the fuck did they do that? It almost looked good for a second but it's just so unreliable man
>>578551517As a support I hate them. Enemy support gets Tumbler's Toy and I get garbage.
How much do fantasy points weigh in comparison to predictions? My percentile right now is 70~.
>>578551693Wait for it to be counted. It'll take 4 days.
>>578551662puppan said it's good
AVALANCHE!!!!
>>578551662>Why the fuck did they do that?Puppy wanted to prove that he can win TI with a dogshit draft.
>>578551693Liquid ruined my fantasy. Fuck you liquid. Never trusting you ever againEver since Matu left you were never the same.
>>578551602How much MMR did you lose from reworks?
>>578531029felt empty during TI finals feel empty now… how are my fellow dotards (clean 10 years) holding up?
>>578551662it worked early on during lanes, and did its job by fking up DS. I'm not sure who else would be a good pick at that last pick once the DS came out, both morph and luna gets destroyed by DS. Maybe troll?
>>578551662they could have won with jugg if collapse wasnt on darkseer what other offlaner could have made that play bot that started the swing for spirit
>>578551693Sneyking looks like he's about to sternly tell me that I can't date his oriental daughter
>no more jiggiesI hate when TI ends
>>578541496dota lost to this?
>>578552249>sneyking telling you how the last bull fucked his pornstar "gf"
>>578532601imagine being the cuck that took the photo
>>578552025Troll would've gotten kited even harder and bane would've ran circles around him.I think PA would've been better.
>>578552450lore on PURE (not the z painter), sneys "gf"?
>>578552232Any offlane hero can just buy lotus/windwaker. Jugg has a million counter items, which is why he's never picked in pro games.
>>578552495ah fk, yeah bane sleep absolutely destroyed that last fight too, imo jugg wasn't a bad pick but its now cursed as a fifth game GF loser twice now. PA could work but damn she has a 0 pick/ban rate this TI, it could've been a puppey draft moment for him to pick her in the last game though.
>>578550495lmao if he got desolator like enemy carry they would have won 100%
What if Dota had an item like an offensive Linken's Sphere, that you could put on an enemy and it would block 1 positive buff from one of their allies? That way an LC could Duel someone and prevent an EBlade/Grave/Disruption/etc. and it would allow Juggernaut to block a Lotus Orb and ult without fearing an ally would save his target with a WindWaker.
>>578553084what is spirit breakers shard
>>578552495Sven was the only pick there. He doesn't care about Dark Seer and he can jump the backline and 2 shot their supports.
>>578553084I think they're being really careful about putting anti-save mechanics into the game. Like that the core of the game at this point is these down to the wire neurotic teamfights with 3 force staffs and 4 reposition spells being thrown onto carries. It basically only exists as the Riki shard.
>>578553195He's talking about Nullifier.
>>578553004Not won 100%, but the Lifestealer would have 100% died before Bane could save with Nightmare in that final fight. Yatoro did have buyback ready.
Mickey Mouse TI. If it's below $50 mil it doesn't count.
>>578545384>hopefully his family is safeyou sound like a total faggot
>>578553338so there are no real tis
>>578553285No I mean like Linken's Sphere but an offensive version, so if you use it on the enemy carry their Dazzle can't use Shallow Grave on them before first popping that Linken's with his Force Staff or something like that.
>>578553256Sven also doesn't fucking do anything for 20 minutes especially off secret raping neutral stacks and he also doesn't want to deal with dark seer in lane without a support around
>>578541454Rodjer seemed chill, was he toxic as well?>>578541262>>578542045Do you guys know why pros hate the pari supports as well? Is it just because 9class throws pubs with his "quirky" picks?The only thing I know about Dukalis is that he complained on the chinese interview that the crowd was loud against Xtreme last year and that seemed like a pretty mental midget thing to do but they had just lost so idk.
>>578553451>i hope this guys family from a country that got invaded is safehow is that a faggot take?
>>578553084i think dota should have less shit, not more
>>578553476TI8+9 (combined)
>>578553481Orchid Malevolence.
>>578553265>Riki shardThat can be really frustrating to play against if your cores refuse to buy their own Force Staves.
>>578553494They didn't do anything anyway. Both teams just farmed for an hour until their carries were 9 slotted and had buyback. Vision could have won if they just ran at dire when they had the advantage, but they instead chose to sit back and farm items, but so was dire.
>>578547839Its a good omni item regardless of evasion.
>>578553697MKB is shit. You buy it specifically to counter evasion. Desolator is better and cheaper. Daedalus is better. Bloodthorn is better.
>>578553604That wouldn't help a Juggernaut that is worried about a Lotus Orb.
>>578553256sven gets raped by both bane and ls what are you talking about. draft was lost beforehand, but the jugg pick was fine.
Jugg should have bought aghs just to bait the saves. I don't know why he never bought it.
>>578553816>Desolator is better and cheaper. Daedalus is better.Jesus fucking christ
>>578553920aghs = badgame 5 of ti grand finals just puts you in autopilot
>>578554007You don't buy MKB for damage, you idiot.
>>578553816Are you stupid. Do you know what BAT is, do you know what Jugg third skill does. Do you know what Butterly does to BAT
>>578553816this why you niggas arent in TI
Only real TIs were TI1-TI9Dota died after that
>>578554149I know batrider yes
>>578554103>What is Void
>>578538236I am not saying that it was cheating because it most likely isn't, it genuinely just looks like he waited very long to to use it but nowadays you can have cheats in the fucking internal memory of your keyboard/mouse so being sandboxed doesn't mean anything >>578538436>reacting to a 0.3 cast time on lan is absolutely fucking normal thing that literally anyone can doYes, and it's not something dark seer did either, he was just giga greedy with it and waited as long as possible
Aghs is shit jesus you fucking retards genuinely think a shitty omni with a low cd is somehow good when reg omni is also complete shit
>>578554531Its good when you want to kill supports, thats it. They wanted to kill LS but couldn't lock him, the build makes sense it was just a bad draft
topson almost eliminated yandex
>>578554149>>578554154>>578554316You stupid motherfuckers need to talk less and spend more time in Demo Mode, actually experimenting.
>Daedalous, desolator juggFucking animals, I am not surprised my pubs are so bad when people think thats okay
pooppey status
>>578554657They had naix locked down. The problem was they let him farm for an hour and had an extra 1000hp they had to go through because of his innate.
>>578554762it would’ve been the correct timeline
>>578554823Another finals where he drafts some retarded shit to lose. The white xiao8
If they hadn't picked Hoodwink they could've won.
>>578554813If the enemy has no evasion, do not buy MKB. Period.
Juggernaut should get an extra 0.5s of omnislash for every omni/mini-omni kill he gets.
>>578554768Explain what BAT is
>>578554768yeah dude i'll buy bloodthorn vs naix with manta while getting camped by lotus get outta here
>Aghs Omnislash gives two charges>Omnislash no longer is reflected by Lotus OrbIs he fixed?
Yeah puppey threw 4 drafts for sure but you could see them playing shook this entire finals. Satanic never really farmed like Satanic, Noone invoker was lost. Compare to how Spirit played last game without 3 buybacks. They should probably still have won with even drafts but the difference in experience showed.
>>578554925>What is Faceless void and Troll
>>578554976Definition of Base Attack Time does not change the fact that MKB contributes the least DPS compared to the items I listed.
Leaked Hoodwink buffs
>>578554762Bro Resilience almost eliminated Spirit
>>578555020>aghs make it so he no longer bounces to creeps if a hero is nearby and Omnislash will always jump back to the hero he ulted if possibleThere
>>578555020Stop ruining my fucking pubs.
remove neutral items
MKB poster is right, literally the only reason to buy it ever is evasion ,almost every agi carry buys butterfly and almost every str carry buys radiance)
Yeah Satanic would have won if he>Check notesBought a crit item on a hero with a crit passive and an item thats useless if you don't build it after BF
>>578555121Backtrack is not evasion, by the way.
MKB gives more dps than any other item when accounting for cost.
>>578555443But im tinker
>>578555443No, it doesn't. Desolator is better and cheaper. Daedalus is better for only 100 gold more.
>>578555443No way, that's Rapier or probably Branch if you want to be pedantic
>>578555441Retard, both of those heroes go proc builds
>>578555342it's a total dogshit itemlike casters will say "oh no butterfly got countered" but in reality enemy carry having mkb means they're much less effective vs everything else than hitting the butterfly carrier which honestly isn't bad.
>>578555342Changing Radiance to require Talisman, instead of recipe was IceFrog's biggest mistake.
>>578555428>Bought a crit item on a hero with a crit passiveThere was a very short period where mortal strike insta killed creeps and crystalis crits were bugged and did it too, I would go level 1 jungle first item crit
we are now in the stage of /d2g/ thinking MKB isnt just a money sink nobody wants to buy
>>578555865If they just brought back the ministun it'd have another niche
>>578555598Jugg hates desolator nigga get it through your head, low bat heroes need more attack speed and agi because every point of attack speed is exponential
>>578554925Its a pretty good item when people are 60/40 going butterfly in lots of situations
>>578555781Are you the kind of retard that goes BFury on Void?MoM-Mjol-Daedalus allows him to kill pretty much anyone from full, but you're a dipshit that builds MKB on him.
bring back UAMs
Bring back anti magemake mana burn go through BKB and be pure damage.
I just tested it at lvl 30Daedalous does 2k less damage than mkb, deso and mkb are at parity but the more armor you get (AC lifestealer, armlet, manta) makes deso worse and worseWhen you add swiftblink mkb wins by a lot because how BAT works in this game
>>578555939>get it through your headGet it through demo mode, first. You operate on feels. I operate on actual data.>>578555972Then let them build it FIRST. A countered Butterfly hurts them. A pointless MKB hurts you.BTW, do NOT build Butterfly into MKB. AC does more for you at that point.
Is MKB a viable damage item on WR?
>>578556159On what hero
>>578556012>Every pro on dotaprotracker is wrong but a random /dg2l retard Go win TI
>>578556126Still wouldnt fix him
>>578555108must've been heart breaking for the kid but also everyone has to learn the fear of god at some point to porgress
>>578555342But after you buy MKB they just disassemble the Radiance into Nullifier.
>>578556286um no she needs daedalus and desolator mkb is only good if the enemy has evasion :)
>>578556342would make him playable at least.
>>578556159I tested it again with AC, Armlet, manta.Daedalous does 7k damage, MKB does 9, Deso does 6k.>>578556306Dummy, doesnt matter
>>578556159>Daedalous does 2k less damage than mkbDid... did you just lie on the internet? Show what build you were using.
>>578555828>IceFroghe doesnt work on dota anymore
Im probably cooking here but that ringmaster brother fella, he's voiced by Jeffrey Combs for sure. The reanimator guy? Maybe Coggliaci fella is gonna become some eldrich entity in next story chapter and a new hero? Just give him four legs or something so he doesnt look like Ringmaster.It is a known VA, no? Or Valve prefers inhouse voiceactors?
>>578555108>>578556356was mostly fine except first game and juggbut the first game was just so shit, just let ember lose lane instead of forcing satanic to play that shit.
>>578556537The hero is fundamentally shit now due to the map size you can't push an advantage early and choke out supports etc,
>>578555631Never forget the 5 Million Dollars Iron Branch.
Shame that this was the last TI. Hopefully game gets popular again and Gabe starts the series again.
>>578556624He will be the boss like aghanim was the boss
>>578556776Oh it's the last TI alright for you
>>578556624Maybe he'll be a persona for Ringmaster.
>>578556286youd rather have like a fucking mjolnir than a mkb unless you NEED it
nyaa~
What if he picked troll
>>578556583Uh-oh. Stinky! Poopies!Someone realized I was objectively right and started lying on the internet!
>>578556632yeah game 1 probably put some unnecessary pressure on them puppey has to publicly apologize and kowtow 300 times for that display
>>578556685
>>578556624He will be corrupted by a bunch of old gods and turn into a monstrous tentacle flesh automaton and his name will be puppetmaster
>>578556776what is this transgender picture
>>578553920Bait what?>Eul/Aeon DiscNullifier catches that, Jugg had that>LotusAghs does nothing to that>"But you still have omni"And you can't use omni because lotus will always be up at that point and you've got a 4200g item that goes no one way or the other
What hero are you guys testing, I'll record it for proofs
>>578552232I doubt it. Lifestealer just infests him or anyone else during omnislash. He also gains more and more hp as the game goes on making him win the burst trades even more. Jug just kinda sucks bro and they didnt have a push lineup either maybe if they deathballed with healing ward to just end the game at 25 minutes. I dont think that is viable in this nu-dota any more though
>>578556593If you add items to the dummy the difference increases by a lot, and if you add swiftblink there is no comparison
>>578557108Hey that actually sounds good
Healing Ward moved to shardJugg gets new brool spell
>>578557037marci is canonically dead
>>578557164Juggernaut, duh. I rank up Deso to max, too.
>>578557208Desolator chads???? Our response????????
>>578557324that's hot
Would Troll Warlord have been a bad pick instead of Juggernaut? He can manfight Lifestealer and his Aghs dispels Surge/Eul's/Ghost/etc. and while Bane can fuck him, he can dispel Fiend's Grip once he gets the level 25 talent.
>>578557208The silence is deafening...
>>578557208>daedalus bonus>you can crit (doesn't stack with innate crit)>deso bonus>gets more damage with kills, reduces armor>mkb bonus>makes any evasion the enemy might buy worthlessI'm rushing MKB from now on
>>578557394only if he lives through lane which was half the reason jugg was picked pre 6 troll kinda fuckin sucks right now
>>578557208I gave the dummy AC, Armlet and Manta now, considering LS natural armor growths the difference should increase>>578557596Dont do that
Jug is a chink manlet
Monkey King MKB rush
why the fuck does everyone say turret heroes now? I swear this wasn't a thing a year ago.
>>578557861How do we fix MK anyways he was largely ignored
?i've said turret heros before you were born
>>578557874What does it mean? ranged agi?
No new hero? :(
>>578557394probably better than jugg
>>578557394On paper could work if they ratted long enough. But seeing nobody even mention Warlord until now tells you how unimportant he was. Also Satanic probably didnt scrim with him at all.>>578557874Sniper was always a turret hero
>>578557935Monke statues can bash again
>>578557394Troll is completely countered by euls/windwaker. Also Bane can still just grip him or sleep his target.
>>578557935jenkins cosplay scared off the monkey king picks
>>578557972we wasted the slot on largo please understand
>>578557874>turret
>>578557380>>578557208>>578557545A base Deso is worse, yes. You forgot to upgrade it. Which still leaves it with the fact that it's 1500 gold cheaper.
>>578558080I must've missed this
>>578558110being cheaper and worse is not a good thing in a 45 minute game
I miss draft time panel being separate from main panel, remember the one with Black on it?
>>578558091turrent*
Since they game went to 60 minutes, like half the games this TI, why not pick a late game monster like faceless or spectre?
Swiftblink. I have no idea why I have to explain a bunch of 40 year olds that hopefully finished middle school that magical proc damage will bypass armor which every hero naturally builds and gets every level.>>578558110Okay so when do I buy deso as jugg. First item to fuck my bf timing? Second so I dont have the stats and save from manta? Third so I dont get the dps increase from butter swift?When do I get the charges? Please tell me.
now what dotards? i dont even know how i got here i just spammed zeus and viper
>>578558150
Maybe a sniper would work. Just potshot naix away? With alacrity you can blow him to kingdom come on paper?
>>578558359Start spamming wraith king and you'll be immortal soon
>>578558279both get raped by seer and spec by naix
>>578557964Ranged heroes with no innate mobility that stand and hit, like Medusa, Meurta and SF.
Why is psg pretending to be a jugg expert now
Deso is winning bigly but I probably messed something up, I will try increasing armour next
>>578558346Jugg build is phase > diffusal > deso
>>578558279faceless was banned
now give the dummy bfly/radi
>>578558049>Troll is completely countered by euls/windwakerHis Aghs is an AoE Nullifier on a 4 seconds cooldown.
>>578558567what are you trying to achieve here? they didnt lose because of dmgjuggernaut died after his spin every time
I shouldn't have looked
>>578558567yea cuz u left the dummy at 0 armor
>>578558567I want to be the dummy...
>>578558567Now do Omnislash, remove your rapiers and get all charges off deso
>>578558359this was my very first rank back when ranks were added
>>578558732now you understand why there was no monkey king gameplay, for he was at the stadium
Why didn't they just pick Naix themselves
>>578558706Aren't you idiots arguing damage, I can't possibly test every variable
>>578558201Just participate in kills, upgrading Desolator isn't difficult. And yes,>>578558346>buying MKB for magical procsAt that point, you can buy Mjolnir. It's only slightly worse than MKB and it can replace BFury.
>>578559019>it can replace BFury.Not it fucking cant
>>578558997i didnt read the thread i just saw a couple demo images and they sure as fuck didnt lose because of a mkb over deso or crit
They lost because puppey cut off a finger somewhere in the series
>>578558567they’re doing this to me at work tomorrow
>>578559019>Just get 20 stacks on your fourth item deso, its that easyDO YOU READ WHAT YOU TYPE
>>578558567Why would you rely on your carry alone for damage have your damn mid or offlane do something
god i wanna face fuck qop so bad
>>578559086mmmm.....yes it can
>>578558996I was sure they were going to pick it would’ve worked well with invoker and innate heal vs seer.
>>578556356Prime Satanic mogs prime Yatoro albeit
what if vision had picked him?
>>578558996they probably wanted last pick for satanic like spirit has been doing for yatoro
>>578559523maybe in farmville
>>578559235An enemy just needs to die while under effect of the Corruption for you to get 2 stacks. It doesn't have to be you. Omnislash going all over the place is good, actually. :^)For building up Deso stacks, anyway.
>>578559086yes it can, jugg doesn't need to use mana to farm like, idk, antimage for bfury to be irreplaceable
>>578559532Even easier to shut down that drow.
If noone is an asshole is yatoro also an ass?
>>578559773way, waaaaaaay slower than bfury
I gave them a platemail and added a 0 charge Deso for fairness and left the demo menu open as a treat although now I have no idea what was being argued in the first place
>>578559920Daedalusbros we won
>>578559920Nigga you need to omnislash, it changes jugg attack modifier
>>578559920what autism is this
>>578553525rodjer was bullied too lol, but it was much-much milder because they were winning, in comparison to getting fired then hired back to a much lower salary, which is also equal to newbies.He is pretty chill himself however.>9class>dukalisforfeiting, playing "dirty", "i reanimated and fucked your mother then killed her again" type of trashtalk.Basically every trick in the book, apart from physical violence irl (still make threats online) - usual dota, taken to extreme,which spills outside of the game with gossip, leaks, continuing in socials, inteviews, officials etc.Before pv, Noone and dukalis hated eachother but had to agree to play together as last resort. 9class triggered Fishman so hard he came up to him at lan event.new-era of villains: zoomer edition
>>578560110?if you omni a lotus it does no damage and doesn't matter what item you have
>>578560110I did try but he flew into the other dummies, I will try to rearrange them>>578560151I'm drunk and will stop at nothing to prove someone/anyone wrong on the internet
>>578559532he woulda carried the game on his tiny back
>>578559920Good post
>>578560151That anon is showing that I was objectively correct regarding MKB.BUT, if it's Juggernaut, and he's using Omni, and the enemy has a fuckload of armor, the magic procs will carry it.
>>578560156Didn't think russian gambler scene had this much drama and lore>9class triggered Fishman so hard he came up to him at lan event.Is there a clip
>>578531475double plus good!
>>578560156Russian scene has too much SOVL
>>578560358cba looking rn but u can google, fishmans team got full draft penalty for that lmfaoso toxicity pays, not in karma mayhaps
>>578560348but it's still the same hit
>people unironically advocating for fucking deso juggthis is what happens when herald blogposters aren't made fun of
>>578560607Deso and Daedalus are physical damage. Physical damage is reduced by armor. MKB proc is magical damage. Magical damage is reduced by magical resistance.So doing the same experiment with Pipe and Mage-slayer would be hilariously lopsided in the other direction.
>>578560513https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd7xccZLd-0Found a video from gorp about it atleast that's funny as fuck 9class is built like a twig too so anyone who even visits a gym briefly could take him
>>578559920Good test but the problem with this example is that deso and Daedalus have anti synergy with Bladeflurry doing no damage during it while mkb and mjolnir do damage during it at least.
>>578560832that's the average pos 4 physique
Deso Jugg coming to your pubs tomorrow dotards
Reminder Mason did core undying before it was cool
>>578560926GH is a bear compared these twinks
On my way to 9k with crit rush jugg
>>578560348>BUT, if it's Juggernaut, and he's using Omni, and the enemy has a fuckload of armor, the magic procs will carry it.The fuck are you talking about? Omnislash is just jugger hitting shitif deadalus is better with attacking the dummy normally then it will also be better when omnislashing(Actually it would be even better since you get a dmg bonus during omnislash)
Daedulus jugg being good is a sign that jugg needs buffs because somehow its still better to replace his own crit with an item
>>578560358>>578560513>>578560832google "fishman щeлбaн" and translate news-articles>commemorated in voicelines of pv>screen. Fishman: son of whore, anything to win a pub, n1)
>>578556356choke artist as much as i like butterfly seen him crumble in big moments lacks the IT factor
By the way, even with tons of armor, Bloodthorn does more damage than MKB. Which it better, because it's more expensive.>>578561186By "fuckload" I do mean a fuckload, I gave dummies AC, Armlet AND manta, not just a single platemail. It works.
Is there an eli5 for the dark carnival storyline. I have to keep spam clicking through to story so I can get my next ticket for hero pick
>>578560110This was the best I could come up with and it's not exactly a shocking revelation
btw you can grief freely rn
>>578561316Daedalus doesn't replace crit, it crits on Bladedance's non-crits.
>>578561637>>578561637>>578561637
There's no scenario or item build where they win with Jugg in that game. He's just a bad hero at the pro level because he's so easily countered. They even picked him into Bane already. Puppey just picked some retarded shit like he always does with a series on the line. Don't know why they didn't pick Kez, a hero Satanic had been playing at this tournament. Or Morphling, or Drow. Jugg was just a horrible pick. Also, Axe was useless too. Should have just pulled out the Enigma for the final game if you want teamfight. Black Hole also gives Jugg a chance to omni without getting lotus'd if you get enough heroes in it. Just awful drafting by Puppey the entire series.
>>578561186Go read omnislash
>>578561538ringnigga wants some fucked up circus putting peoples souls in robits his brother fucking hates it and decides to unleash horrors on the world the rest is just millenial humor
>>578560156Wdym by playing dirty? Like ruining teammate's games?
>>578557935MK was actually banned fairly often, even in the GFs.
