>Latest Nightreign patch noteshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1032>Small guide for players who are coming back to the game and want to queue DoN, suggestions welcomehttps://rentry.org/d5guide>How to host 6 player lobbies with seamless coophttps://files.catbox.moe/we1zur.png>Nightreign MoreMapVariation+SoTEWeapon mod guidehttps://rentry.co/ergMMVW>Nightlord resistances charthttps://files.catbox.moe/rd2k5n.jpg>The main information document for Elden Ringhttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Miscellaneous Nightreign Datahttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4>Group/Multiplayer PasswordergTouch bloodstain :>>578422918
Based DevilGAWD
wow finally a normal thread gg
bg
>>578543714Why do you insist on talking about yourself in third person 24/7? Genuinely what's wrong with you?
>>578543714ok thats actually kinda based, rare devil win>>578543905old image, aschev changed his name
>>578544018That's a mole retard. Do you want my pov w/time as proof?
>>578543905so lame
We love white women
Why does the discord mole love Devil so much? Is it because xhe's in love?
>>578544612>>578543714So cool... That's erg's strongest bvll...
>>578544119>Wahhh please don't leak my trooncord messages!!!!!-1000 izzat for Devilsaars
>>578544869the discord is probably just really boring and theres nothing else funny to leak
OP is retarded and removed the filter list for some reasonhttps://clipb.in/hga6AdY
>>578544869>>578544119>Implying it's not Deviljeeta himselfComeonnow.jpg
>>578544869the "mole" is in fact saar k***ht screenshotting his own messages for whatever indian reason
+Izzat to Devil for making trannies seethe
even doe trannies are in love with devil
It's a mole trying to slander my name
>>578544952>>578545156>>578545145>gets rhetorical question btfo >cries about itThought so.
>>578545354he's a confirmed chaserjeet and vtumor simp
>>578543436I love my /erg/ friends
>>578545354>>578545432Devil is so lucky bros...
so gross and lame...
>>578545802So cool... So jealous of her.
>>578545694It was obvious
Hello ergies
>>578545102I dreamt that someone went in and vandalised the filter list and posted it to the OP
can terrjeeta and devilcuck stop arguing for once
This game can be weird sometimes.>>578543714Holy based.
>>578545609How does that prove anything Devilsaar?
>>578545802>>578545901devils harem of zdrada, zombii, clapcake and anon…
>>578546441The time is different from the first post. Cross-referenced from my time, the mole is likely from the US Eastern Time.
>>578546637And you are from where exactly? India? Pakistan?
You fags are fucking weird, ERPing with other men and pretending you're women. This used to be a relatively nice place before Nightreign, you know?
>>578546809Tibet
>>578546875grow up you little fag
>>578546809Israel.
>>578546809>ERPing with other men and pretending you're wom4chan culture
We are Lunar Princess Ranni
>>578544018He does it to feed his fragile ego
>>578546976You sound like one of those bitches telling me to be more mature. Exactly what does that entail, being a shameless sexpest and "rizzing up" touch starved losers in private chats?
Leak more MolechadTotal trooncord death
>>578546875instantly had your point proven correct and triggered one of the many threadpests well done keep it up
gg thanks for the slicer
gg fulghor. I was too far from the charge atk dmg neg but we got it anyways
>>578544018Him and terrtroon are two sides of the same coin.
Deploy the DDF
>>578546121Lmfao
>>578543714The KING of /erg/ & /duskg/
>>578547701The most moral army...
>>578543727oh yeah real normal>>578545102based
>don't even play anymore>still get discussed by schizoswhat causes this mental illness?
>>578546121>>578547903That's not me retardsStop feeding the troll
>>578548134>>578547389>>578547314grow. up.
>>578548134Isn't there a way to stop the stubs from appearing?
>>578548180Mindbreak.>>578548242Stay as you are.
it didn't have to be like this, we could have had one or two more expansions for elden ring
>>578548265there is but i just wanted to show how much shit gets hidden (start of the thread btw)>>578548242kys
>That's not m-ACK!
>>578548758Ayayay cabroncito.
>>578548554no 1 care how upset you are by anonymous posts that you willingly volunteered to acknowledge and read. kYs my chocolate chocolate chip
>>578548554Based and keep making the right people seethe.
>>578548758>>578546123Please save the thread Trishtina-sama
a war leading to abandonment by the greater erg
>>578546809Sent that freak flying back to his gay discord.Well done.
>>578548981The coward can't even save his shame.
>>578545102Probably because your trigger warnings don't belong there.
>>578548217Its still funny in concept
>>578548939i think xhe is the only one seething here 24/7, should practice better self care desu
ishizaki is currently working on a nightreign sequelverified by trusted sources
>>578548629Oh no no no no
>>578548758>>578549239Guardian is so lucky...
remaking nightreign but based on mid 2010s souls design
>>578549775I agree. We need another Dark Souls II.
>samefagged her own baitEmbarrassing.
>>578549937holy kek
>>578550203you'll need to provide specificity here
I think its time for the yearly souls trilogy playthrough, anyone got that roll chart?
>>578546809Deviljeeta BTFO
https://litter.catbox.moe/dqorrn6r0tvqjpf1.mp4
dont open the link
>>578548324
>>578550705rolled at 1:57
>devil gets exposed-raped>instantly brings up his rapistso predictable
>>578550705gay interracial don't click
bro thinks he's part of the squad
>>578551363It wasn't meant to be a no roll nor a no hit.
>terrdailt still looking for an excuse to trauma dump about her rapistSo lame.
>>578551558fell off tsk tsk
>>578548880>t. the filtered
>>578551765>Implying xhe was ever goodCome on now
>>578551490Quintessentially American post
>>578551765I just wanted a fallingstar beast kill with Les Toreadors edited in.
Yeah I'm thinking Devil won this round
>>578543714>Doesn't want erp>Hangs out on discord, erp central.
>>578552527wrong he bought a switch2, he is an eternal loser
>>578551903You should give spacing and positioning a try, xis. It's way more fun than iframing everything.
>>578549239>fat
>>578552527said no one ever
>>578552527That's every round to be fair.
>>578551954this may impact your rating
>>578552664He likes to larp as le based repilled chud but deep down he is a chaser in denial.
>mindbroken by:
>>578552797Delete this, now. Or the Discord will make a move.
>>578552696You mean spend all xher time in the practice mod*
>>578552797Devil sisters... Our hero has been disgraced...
>>578553250i also 5 bar to FSB, probably the worst field boss in nightreign
>>578552797>devil is a billion miles away from the fight doing nothing (as always)>still diesKek
>>578552946I had to look up chaser. It sounded very close to "bug chaser". But apparently a regular "chaser", is someone who goes after transgendered people. Makes sense. Why else would you be on the discord? Half the users are larping as women.
>>578553458Holy trvke lmao
>>578553458You can see him firing arrows. He was probably drawing on the bow when the dog attacked. Animation lock is one of the biggest killers in Elden Ring and Nightreign. Since the games are significantly faster than their predecessors, yet the player isn't allowed to animation cancel at crucial times.
>>578553458Lmaooooooo
hello, i am 1/3
>>578553919I was just playing that game badly. Not sure why cc decided to save and post this, though.
>Devil trooncord defense on the moveLike clockwork
>>578554143It's schizonamedropping our conquerors time, come back later
>>578553919>You can see him firing arrowsDamn those 100 damage arrows are really doing a lot, good thing he has 999 vigor on his cheated relics.
>>578553836Wyldbrides together
uh oh pakiknight and the cordtroons are on the loose again
>>578554228i'm gonna give it a few mins. the schizo posters haven't scared me off, so maybe there is some other game players out there.
>>578552797>Japanese weeb
>>578543714HMM... BASED!
This is the official /erg/ discordSay something nice
>>578554191>Not sure why cc decided to save and post this, though.Gays and trannies are catty by nature.>>578554375I've lost fights that would have been won if we only drew 1-3 more hits.
>>578545461>good player>NEEDS cheated relicsKWAB
>>578554191>I was just playing that game badly. Not sure why cc decided to save and post this, though.Cheater(shitter) cope
I've been playing with the ER 1st person mod and I think it needs to be clunkier like the DS3 version for it to be a proper first person experience. It just isn't good enough at the moment with how free the movement is.
>https://x.com/sillykittyanna/status/2091269442990637409Kino.
Jee got gift the switch 2 by gabri what a sissy. Probably sent him pics in a golden bikini
>>578555571No one asked about your brown boyfriends
>>578555486>just sits in front of the boss and rolls everythingThere are people who enjoy this kind of gameplay. Grim.
>>578555571hot
>>578554191didn't post it this thread, but i thought it was funny when i posted it
>>578555667Owned that despicable animal
>>578556368Classic flirting technique to bully your crush a little bit.
>>578555486simultaneously trans gem and chud coal
>>578556368I'll take your word for it.
>>578555486Oh shit its actually a game you can play.https://tomoko-fureimu.itch.io/beanreign
Even doe DevilGAWD is the most hardcore gamer in /erg/....
>>578556973>Highly recommended to play with controller>Buttons are different than Nightreign's buttonsWhy are retards like this?
>>578556973if you can't beat this you shouldn't be on the pass btw>>578557836lame and raped
>>578554572I wonder why pointtosky anon decided to make the server in the first place?
>>578558403How do you know it was pointtosky
>>578556973@zorban please play this on stream
1/3
>>578556973I beated him can I come on the pass...
>>578558871Hmm, for 10 gifted maybe
>>578558950yesgood job, proud of you
Thread has been mostly dogshit so far I'm starting to think the filterfags were right
Is there a Cheat Engine script to complete all the Remembrances? I want to have a character slot for each Depth but I don't want to play through all of the remembrances 4 more times
>>578559172Can it filterfag. You're too weak for this site.
>>578559172I think we need to discuss discord personalities more. What is everyone's favorite rule34 tags?
>>578559453incest, imouto
>>578559281This makes you a bad person though
>>5785591721girls, dark-skinned_male
>>578559453chastity_cage
>>578559732Didn't ask about your poopdick fetish terrcuck
>>578559732Keep it to yourself terrmaggot
>>578559862Vaporized that subhuman
>>578559732Based
>>578559295Not your rapist sorry.>>578559453Shota x milf, luckily marika is perfect for that
>>578559607I'm already a bad person
>>578559453gender bender, mind break
>>578560161Don't reply to yourself maggot faggot terrjeet and go for >>578559862
>>578560285r34 doesnt allow shota
>>578559732Hawt
>>578560451Xhe really is the biggest loser cuck in dsg and erg history with this garbage for real.
uh oh timmy meltie
>>578560695I like to think this comment of hers is completely unprompted and in the middle of a different conversation by other anons.
>herstroonykip is an indian male
I think weapon buffs SUCK
kirii is a girl until proven otherwise
looking forward to duskbloods just so I son't have to submit to the routing of two idiots that spend half the night fighting a single boss
>>578543727Discord trannys aren't normal.
we are battling for the lands between
>>578545102Because he identifies as a man who sleeps with men.
>>578556973This plays like it was made by someone who only fought Heolstor once and tried to remake the fight from memory.
>>578560695>7 months oldstill a weird thing to say but this is why i'm always careful about what i say herenever know when a schizo will save it so they can post it randomly 6 months later
The erg is shattered
>just another day in erg hell
Yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh
>>578556973Strafing is near fucking worthless
it's a shame heolstor never got a real ED when he's one of the most fun fightsboth him and dreg deserve more, they're too frail for DoN
>>578562468There's a four hit combo and (charged) heavies but you'll literally never use those>>578562543He's already an ED fight because he's the Night or something.
>HP bloated damage sponged are le goodThank God you retards aren't making games
>bosses that die the moment they enter phase 2 are le goodWho let these retards make games
>>578562631You're talking to a NEEtroon that doesn't understand that they already have 4 phases each
>Ermmm 30 minutes bosses are actually a good thing though!!!!Maybe you should go play MH with starter weapons or something idk
>>578562896*2 phases
"bosses are too frail" says the guy with near perfect relics that has done countless expeditions and that has two password teammates that are in the same position
muh bosses
>>578563183Health bars =/= phases, xis. Pay attention next time.
>>578561270Lovely south Asian delusion
>>578563352if a boss enters a phase, and makes zero attacks before dying, did it really enter that phase?
>D5 MMV solo
>There are "people" here that unironically want to do this shit for an hour straightSubhumans
>>578561714The irony being the one always posting it is of course an even bigger degenerate threadshitter
>>578563528>>578563528It ok to admit you were wrong about the number of phases.
Ergies should do zdps runs so they can get a taste of what it's like for normal people.>>578563578PCR is the only true rollslop boss in ER. Literally everyhing else can be beaten by using the other fundamentals
>>578563537name?
I want to marry Melina. Its not fair the blue woman gets a happy ending while meli meli gets burned
>>578563578>this shit for an hour straightEvery fucking soulsborne mod in existence. 10 years of dodging and parrying between every r1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfbR0sfZsQ
>wah wah bosses die too fastTake off the night Invaders and balancers lil bro
>no relics>no skillslop>no duchess/ironeyeTry it for one expedition so you can get the average Joe experience (adjusted for skill level)
>>578563694here's your 4th phase bro
>>578564026Parryslop was a mistake
>>578564256You're free to nerf yourself (i.e. make your own fun) at any point but you won't do that because then you might lose.
I don't understand some people. If you got good at the game, then the reward is to demolish bosses quickly. If you inflate the boss's numbers just to keep the fight going longer, then you've created a tedious war of attrition.Anyway, check out this cool relic.
>>578564256That's the 4th phase, correct. Almost like the dmg and dps are not going to be the same every run.
>>578564052you're right we should run gaols instead, much more interesting>>578564256the ability to kill a boss quickly doesn't change how many phases it has, it just means you can skip them
>>578563889Look it was fucking Gael with all his 3 phases and I haven't fought him in like 5 years okay?
>>578564498As I get gooder, the reward is that I can be more patient and watch my 'allies' struggle.
>>578564504the only thing different about dreglord's phase 4 is that he *can* do the big hammer movei cannot remember the last time i saw him do that because his health pool is low enough that it is the same every run
>>578564498>demolish bosses quickly.That gets boring quickly because there's no tension and you know it.
>>578564797wrong, he also does the big meatball rot rain explosion
Go play with randos thenOr are you too scared you can't carry?
is 40 vigor enough for ds2 sotfs
>>578565138Yes, and for every stats that you level you will get 2 health until you get to 50 points in it which builds up.
>>578564797>xhe finally admits it's a 4th phase bossAlso wrong again. >>578565050Destroyed the petty yuritroon well done.
>>578565232Ok, boutta head in
>>578565050does he do it outside of the 30% health trigger when he initiates that? i wouldn't could that part of the phase since it happens at a fixed health point and i've literally never seen him do it outside of that because he dies the moment he does the meat tower>>578565278technically, it's a 6 phase bossbut my point is if it consistenly can't do any of the moves unique to the last phase then it is the same as if it does not have that phase at all
>>578565070randos are all running haloslop beastslop and cheated relics
>>578564842I'm still not good enough to do that consistently, so there's always a "what if this goes bad" thought in the back of my mind. Thus, when things go well, I'm relieves. If I every became good enough t consistently demolish bosses, then I would just stop playing game. But in a satisfied way.
sorry gonna eat
>>578565070>>578564134>>578563830>>578563270>>578564495You're talking about a fraudmaxxed Duchtroon please understand.
>>578565453What is this build for? If you want to PvP you'll have to constantly roll back your save unless you're using the agape ring, which you aren't. You should also get 1 attunement slot for warmth so you can get some form of healing as a non-FTH invader.
yikes i bet youre fat too
I'm so glad you guys dodged a boss I haven't seen in 42 games. We have to make room for more Balancer fights.
>>578565524PCheatroon issue
>>578565795Look, there's a 2.5% chance they have to use the stormruler which is le bad.
>>578564842This is why playing with randoms is fun, even if you're pretty sure you'll win the actual experience is unique each time as opposed to seeing the same few people with the same few builds and the same routing ideas
>>578565795I miscounted. The last instance was 18 games ago. But still.
>>578565516No, you were basicly saying "we need le Everdarks" when they have about the same or more phases than Everdarks and their music tracks are already complete at launch, unlike the other bosses. It was simply not a part of the plan. They dont need bloated HP either, dont play the most busted character in the game if you want longer fights.
i can do like 5 more mins on pw or else i need to switch to randooms
>>578565707pve...
If you think bosses die too quickly, you should play Guardian
>>578565795I won't dodge balancers but fucking hell I hate the fact they never normalized heolster, dreg, ed augur, and balancers rates. I get them being higher around when dlc released but they appear way too often. they at least present a challenge to solve but they are not that interesting.
>>578565516the meatball rain can happen multiple times just like the big 2 hit nuke can happen again in phase 4 if the fight goes on long enough
>>578563578>that frame rateKek
>>578565841PChampion general consolecoon.
>>578566153Exactly. Just normalize the rates now. The DLC honeymoon period is over.
>>578566103It's fine if you don't plan on fighting other people. You'll keep going up in Soul memory brackets so you'll probably want to level up regardless.
>>578566258See you in Duskbloods :)
whats the go to mod if i want to play as futa goddess? (small penis)
>>578566531Ask Patrick.
>>578563537bakipaki is so same and raped and should kill xhimself
ordered my switch 2, sisters
>samemindbroken
>>578565986are you trying to say fist duchess has too high DPS
>>578566813He said Duchess is inherently busted.
>>578566813>character that can boost its own and nearby chunk damage with Restage>not making the fight go faster>can just spam dodge and overcommit due to restage iframes, giving more dmg uptime for free>implying you dont use all sorts of dpslopBe less disingenuous
>>578566531This is a strange post.
>>578567214Xhe needed something to attempt to pivot to.
>>578566813>Tranimeslop imageEvery single time
>>578567226>can just spam dodge and overcommit due to restage iframes, giving more dmg uptime for freeNot him but what does that have to do with wailing on greg in the phase transition
>>578567226spamming dodge leads to less DPS uptime and if you're using restage iframe to overcommit then you're not using it for chunk damagei know what i believe in but you're just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks, who's being disingenuous
>Ermm actually the most busted character in the game is bad
I'm not good at vidya gaems anymore.
>>578567857who are you quoting
>>578567714>spamming dodge leads to less DPS uptimeNo, it means you can stay in the enemy's face more easily than over characters and get damage in, but you knew that already.>you're using restage iframe to overcommit, then you're not using it for chunk damageThe point is you can use it for both, which leads to shorter fights.
>>578567714>spamming dodge leads to less DPS uptimeIt does lead to higher DPS uptime if it saves your life because your teammates won't have to pick you up since you're effectively immortal.
>>578568145Another curbstomp for the collection. Good work.
>>578566813>Aryanime cuisine imageEvery single time
Mr President, another cuckcuck L has hit the towers
>>578568063>No, it means you can stay in the enemy's face more easily than over characterswhat does this mean, do you think other melee characters need to run away whenever an enemy attacks them or something?>The point is you can use it for both, which leads to shorter fights.if we're talking who can make fights the shortest, rev ironeye and scholar are all above duchess
I'm waiting for the relicsless, WA-less, Duchessless, Ironeyeless, erg run (happening never ever)
the trannies are defeated
>>578569385>WA-less>It's another "guess the random acronym I just made up" episode.
>>578569385triple recluse rl1 fist only no weapon slots no relics D5 SSB.
What part of your character is busted and makes fights go quicker does xhe not understand?
>>578569621Weapon Art you fucking newnigger.
Shazam really raped the shit outta 4chan back when elden ring had just come out huh? Still haven't recovered I see.
>>578569668this thread chain is about deleting bosses too fastduchess as a character is busted, but in terms of pure DPS she's top 4, maybe even top 5 if you include recluse
>>578569869Your character boosts everyone else's damage xis.
>>578569869She can still piggyback off her teammates.
>>578569750Shazam won and Slop of the Turdtree vindicated him
>>578569869>duchess as a character is busted, but in terms of pure DPS she's top 4Elaborate? For me, she is the clear top1 and it's not close.
>>578569869Hold on, are we including things 1/100 run tier damage from crit executor? Because if we're doing that, you are not a serious person. Duchess is like one of, if not the best balancer skillsloppers just based on FP and restage dmg boost putting her dmg over someone else using the same weapon skill.
>>578563830>PCR is the only true rollslop boss in ERI posted this in the last thread, but he only has one attack that needs to be rolled if you're blocking, the grab. you can sprint around most of the Pontiff Sulyvahn combo too. otherwise i agree, dodging for 10-15 seconds straight before getting one attack in is lame. no wonder Leda's gear buffs rolling attacks, since you get it right before the fight.
>>578552797Why moon runes?
shitty bad game pests bad game -1000 izzats and reps
>>578570024>>578570045>>578570272if boosting your team's damage is highly valued than scholar tops obviouslyironeye's second because the mark is constant and it also popsduchess can go 3rd but a well built recluse can easily do double her damage so it depends on how you view team damage vs raw damagerev depends because she doesn't have the respec that recluse has, and she doesn't have terra like recluse has, but she's got the fred buff and targets boss weaknesses - also beastslop>>578570448not including 1/100 runs, talking about generalizationi've wondered but can't you just play haloslop dex scholar instead? i'd say the fastest bossfights i've had had one buffing the whole team while still doing enough damage themselfhe's got less FP but it's still wylder levels and he's got a lot more stamina which is usually more of a breakpoint during nightlords right?
>>578570691>Blocking all of that with a medium shield while performing guard counters>Hidden stamina barHMMMMMM A little sussy
gg cold bugs>>578571005we only did 2 gaols
>>578571019>if boosting your team's damage is highly valued than scholar tops obviouslyRetard, Duchess boosts AND deals the big damage. >ironeye's second because the mark is constant and it also popsMark is 15% and a pop is like ONE restage but with no status buildup> recluse can easily do double her damagelol
>>578571019Scholar and Ironeye combo can make fights go insanely fast yes, that does not mean Duchess also doesn't do that on top of having a much easier time in melee getting in dmg, much more so than Scholar.
>>578571176She’s right recluse can hit like a truck with spell schools and int respec boost. It’s far better than magic Duchess. Duchess haters really over value everything about her.
>>578569385>>578571019Make sure to report back, xis. The restrictions apply to your party friends as well.
>>578571461>Spell SchoolsNot reliable and she doesn't passively massively buff the team DPS
>>578571060it's just the deflecting hardtear, you can see the shield glow with every perfect block. i play on PS4, just wanted the cinematic look by removing the HUD. here's the same build fighting rellana. heavily reduced stamina use if you time the block correctly.
relicless triple birdjeet d5 erg run
>>578571176She doesn't remember the days of caster Duchess it seems. >>578571461>theoretical cope
>>578571623Oh! So you're not truly blocking. You're parrying. This is just parrying with generous iframes.
Duskbloods won btw
now that shartbloods killed nightreign no one will care if I use modded (legal) relics right
>>578572036Correct.
>>578571176>Retard, Duchess boosts AND deals the big damage. so can scholar, his dex respec puts him at 58 dex to duchess' 45>Mark is 15% and a pop is like ONE restage but with no status buildup"just trust me bro mark pop isn't that much damage" also who the fuck uses status to delete nightlords>lolnot an answer>>578571368she has an easier time getting into melee range because her surge sprint is so cheap, scholar's got a massive fuckoff stamina bar though so he can afford to sprint to gap closethe cripple dodge is a non-issue, when i went from playing duchess to bird i was surprised by how easy it was to adjust to the dodge
>>578571801you can say that i guess, the tear doesn't do anything for you if you're just turtling. what i'm doing is essentially just sekiro's combat + guard counters. that being said, you can block some pretty ridiculous shit with the greatshield talisman, even with a medium shield.
>>578572036>now I can kill the boss Ive never die to 2% fasterI’m surprised anyone ever cared
>>578570691That looks like fun but what I mean by rollslop is not being able to avoid attacks by spacing/positioning which is the case for PCR because some of his attacks aren't strafable and he nukes half the arena at the end of each combo. I think you can strafe the grab from the front if you do it early enough.
>>578572115>when i went from playing duchess to bird i was surprised by how easy it was to adjust to the dodgeIt makes sense because if you just do 1 Duchess dodge it's very short just like theirs.
>>578572282Tbh it's probably partly because there were so many Chinese players with blatantly edited relics that arr rooked the same and they were pretty universally dogshit players
the TGA table is used to edit relics, right?
>>578572207>you can block some pretty ridiculous shit with the greatshield talisman, even with a medium shield.Perhaps. But I won't know that for certain until I see it. Going in with a build where you have to time your blocks carefully as if you're parrying, and calling it a blocking strategy isn't quite right. When I think of blocking, I think of shield compensating for the need to time my actions like that. Like, sure there's is *some* timing required while shielding to regular your stamina. But it shouldn't be like that you have to match each strike of your opponent's attacks so precisely.
>>578572635You can also use alfizari's save editor, that'll stop you from making illegal relics (accidentally) if you trust it
>>578572295i see what you're saying, agreed I think PCR is right at the limit of From's combat design they've been using since DeS. The next game is going to need a completely revamped combat system if PCR is an indicator of how they plan to design bosses in the future, i don't see roll/jump/block/parry going much further if bosses are going to turn into massive AOE's and Devil May Cry combos. Stuff like Miriam's Vanishing, Raptor if the Mists, and the weapon art on Ansbach's Scythe are all things that deserve further effort for whatever game comes next.
>>578572115Her sprint is cheaper, and her dodge is better, yes Scholars' shit dodge is very much an issue you're scholar gameplay is subpar, in fact.
>>578572635Literally Mao
>>578572115>his dex respec puts him at 58 dex to duchess' 45Doesn't matter. He sucks at Skillslopping and Skillslopping is the strongest strat nigger
>>578572036Shartreign was dead a good while before Cuckbloods>>578573081They could potentially make a return to Sekiro levels of mobility but even mobile if they plan on keeping things like this, DB’s nonstop jumping is actually a pretty good glimpse of what they might go for
>>578572697So, you mean just turtling/shieldtanking everything without really having a penalty or tradeoff for doing that, if I'm understanding right? From's RPG combat is almost entirely stamina based, I feel like that would defeat the purpose. That being said, you can definitely stack guardboosting equipment like greatshield talisman, pearlshield talisman, and barricade shield, again, assuming that's what you're talking about.
troons used to be cracked at games what happened
>>578560695>>578560161Shut it freak and don’t reply twice
>>578572635izzat farmer
>>578574048+1 curbstomp
>>578574247>So, you mean just turtling/shieldtanking everything without really having a penalty or tradeoff for doing that, if I'm understanding right?Personally, I wouldn't put it that way. Because the notion that you can just block all of his attacks like it's no big deal doesn't sit right with me. But since you said you can block all of his attacks, I'm curious to know if it's actually true. You can talk about the theory "use these items and skills" and what not. But does it work in action?>From's RPG combat is almost entirely stamina based, I feel like that would defeat the purpose. I mean, if someone builds their character around blocking, and then they can't rely on blocking, then that doesn't feel very good. I get not all bosses can have the same vulnerabilities though. I remember someone at Fromsoft saying that they accidentally made Gwyn too easy, because they wanted to make him defeatable with any build. But isn't that sort of unavoidable as the final boss? In an ideal scenario, any build would work against the final boss, because he's the *final* boss. It's lame if a final boss has a specific weakness.
We could've had cool and creative punishes like jumping the clone attack and the followup but From had to make it a bit too quick and now we have to deal with retarded redditors that will try to convince you that it's actually a good thing you can't do stuff like this.
God Bless !
>>578573559why are you repeating back to me the things i just said?>>578574048massive stamina bar means he can keep throwing halos longer than duchess can and he can fix any FP issues with upgraded shards, all while buffing his allies more than duchess does
>>578549239>>578548758>>578546123Can you erp with me?
>>578575008>Jump spammer countered Based
>>578575056gg negative dps california dog
Why are all bosses mystery bosses now?
gg castle wipe
>>578566463>>578565841got that pcuck
>>578575194depths 6 update? finally?
>>578575279queue up suster
>>578575279That would mean you have to unblock trish though...
>>578575234The moose kept juking my roa so I bailed but I fell off the roof and then i tried getting back up and thats when a troll pot hit us
>>578575359i'd post the legendary great epee of sleep pic i have but i don't remember what month i took that screenshot in>>578575384worth it
>>578575279unblock trishtina
>>578575071You said his dodge is a non-issue when it very much is. You also neglected to mention Duchess' mark-tier dodge on command. Continuing to be disingenuous, I see. Here's your takeaway. Your character is easier than anyone else to get damage in for melee. You also boost the team's DPS output by just existing, which means SHORTER dreg and heolstor fights. Play a low-damage character with a normal or shit dodge if you want them to be longer without damage boosts to the team. Hope this helps.
>>578575384That will happen once he stops being a coward.
>>578566463Enjoy your 35 fps slop fest :)>>578575240Don't samefag consolepoor
>>578575384>>578575562said no one ever
>>578575071>dps is measured in standing still hurling scytheslol no. Since in reality you can only throw a FEW, Duchess is better since she can restage them. Cope faggot
>>578575772got itcan't play duchessalso can't play ironeyecan't play rev or recluse either because they do too much damagecan't play scholar because he buffs team damage too muchcan't play undertaker because she also does too much damageso i'm only allowed to play wylder, raider, guardian and executor, oh and i also have to block anyone who plays the above characters because even 1 is too much DPS and makes it impossible to see dreg's hammer move
>>578575194>"mystery" bosses that can be narrowed down with nightbosses, or map layouts if you're autistic, or seed checkers if you're a cheaterThat's why I love mmv, it randomizes everything. You have no choice but to bring an all-round build on mystery niggas.
>the game is too easy because i do a gorillion damage per second>then lower your damage output>no the devs need to further the numbers for me when they didn't even expect many people to reach d5 because i'm a neet who plays the game all day
>>578575904Sour grapes lol
>>578576612we want new mountains to climb dude, not different ways to climb the ones we already have
>>578576728Post purchase rationalization lol
>>578576728>Return to the House of (devilk)Nig(ht)
>>578576612>you have to play with 0 relicsi wonder who is behind these posts
>>578576960What's strange is he's using someone else's post off-site. Molecuck is so strange.
>>578576728>Deviljeet is a tendiepedoCoal
>>578563537What a fucked up world for the lawful good character to die>D5 MMV soloDoesn't sound fun with the night 2 donut steel bosses
>>578576612i dont think making the fight 10 minutes long would mke pests more fun
>>578577069You are fooling nobodyIt's all trooncord raids led by you
>>578576937Everyone wants fresh content, dude. But Heolstor and Greg are fine as they are. You're speaking from a post-long-solved game pov.
>>578576937Then buy a Switch 2
>>578578026>pls pls buy shartbloods so that i didn't waste my moneySorry, you're stuck with zorkredditors. Oh wait, you are one.
>>578578179Stop being poor
the duskbloodgies
>>578578264>damn he called me out, maybe if i shame him into buying dogshitSo brown
>>578576612>lower damage output>divert resources to defence instead>still do too much damage
>>578578389>So brownBut enough about you
>>578578026I dont want a switch 2 though, why would i buy one when i have a fancy gaming pc
>>578578467yerba everyone knows you suck ass shut up already
Deviljeet's fragile ego is definitely a thing to beholdMore proof he's from a third world shithole
>>578575279ciccy...
>>578578482>no saar you are the brown bloody benchodSorry I wounded your izzat but we don't play with feces like your people
>>578578467that bitrate lmao
>>578578467>all the actual damage is from Ironeye mark popsTripling down on not getting it award. >>578578610Thats cctroon in damage control mode.
Well darn. Artorias got us yet again.
>>578578914it was my fault, sorryi just can't get a feel for him and keep sucking ass against him
>>578578632Many are saying this
>>578578914>>578578979https://youtu.be/Kr6qcjP4Fds
>samefagged your own bait againSo raped
Names?
>>578579094sneedger
>>578578979>>578578914Names? Game over screen?
>>578578979That's ok. There is no real "feel" for artorias in Nightreign. He's a complete mess of design. The best you can do, is wait for """safe""" opportunities, and hope the RNG doesn't decided they're unsafe.
>>578576728White excellence.
I'm really good at carrying artorias but the game hasn't given me bears or arty in a while. i should probably practice that in the practice mod
Why is Deviljeeta so lame and pathetic?
>>578579372Because he is melanated
>>578578858>Ironeye mark popspop. singular. there's one pop in the final phase.even without the pop, he still would be dead before the big flashy move, even moreso if you replaced the ironeye with another standard melee characteranyone who has played this game knows that heolstor and dreg never get to do their cool final moves because they die too fast, the last game of my streak was 2 fist wylders and a caster wylder and that still killed heolstor before the big flashy move because he just doesn't have the bulk needed for it
>>578579091He says the front flip attack ignores iframes, and it's been that way since dark souls 1. But that doesn't sound right. Because I was able to dodge his front flip with 99% consistency in Dark Souls 1. So something has changed.
>>578579708That video isn't for you Creasy. You don't learn and no one expects anything from you.
>>578578467Wait, you're using dregs isn't that literally for a damage setup?
>>578579645>implying my caster wylder build is low dpsrude
>>578579645No its because the game is long-solved and you're retarded. His HP is fine.
>>578579846Don’t call him out like that you know how he gets
heavy thrusting sword on undertaler feels good
>>578579091Even the guide maker says his basic combos are complete bait, and you should just ignore them. Why is it ok for a boss to have so many unpunishable attacks at once? A constant string, and we're just supposed to wait until he does one of his big moves, where we can attack once before he begins a new string of basic attacks.>>578579846>>578580289That doesn't even make sense. If I "never learn", then how was I dodging the front flips so consistently in Dark Souls 1?
>>578579936no dregs, just rot under HP and no rolls or flask usage>>578580086my bad, which version of advanced glinstone pebble were you using again?, i'll put it into the hall of fameslop next to beastclaw, halo scythe, raptor claws and raider CR2s
>>578580342chungus
>>578580342double binky helice l2den ring is fun
erm... excuse me?
>>578580453> which version of advanced glinstone pebbleGreat Glintstone Shard, I was doing 550 per cast, pretty amazing if you ask methis is sarcasm
>>578580441You weren't dodging the front flips in DS1 dude, his flip attack ignores iframes and this was ported over to nightreign
>>578579091Thanks, hope I remember all next time. I guess I was wrong thinking the extra player speed would let you punish him more in NR but it's literally the same exact moves as in DS1 that are safe, holy shit.>>578579708It feels like flip itself hits you for 0 damage before the sword hits you again to purposefully fuck up your roll i-frames or something
>>578580656damn you look like that
>>578580267so we'd need to ban wylder, executor and raider from being played too because their survivability means nobody people down go down enough which makes the fight shorter got itso... you want everyone to play relicless RL1 guardian rather than wanting anything more from the game?>>578580656my caster wylder is better than ur caster wylder
>>578581131>my caster wylder is better than ur caster wylderprove it
it's getting kinda yurmy in here
>>578579372Why can't you get "jeet" out of your head? Are you this easily influenced? Let me guess, before that it was "jews" and "goyim"? The CIA loves people like you.
>>578581192already didtried the double jumping strat to cast platypus's ruin like someone mentioned once and they're right nothing hits you
kinda 'zuky and 'zorky
going to get the game for the first time when it drops on switch 2 pretty much blind and was wondering what kind of builds you guys made for pve. anything fun? i hear there is a stone club in the game that sounds fun. also hear theres a bubble you can shoot that plays a doot.
>>578579846Damn nice noooticing
>>578581303Saaaaaaars
>>578581312that doesn't prove anything
>>578580963>You weren't dodging the front flips in DS1 dudeYes I was. Everyone was: https://youtu.be/prkl7bGqm-w?t=59The guide maker for the nightreign fight says the way to avoid front flips is to surge sprint to the side, and then back away. But there is no surge sprint in Dark Souls 1. So how do you figure we dodged the attack? Rolling. Duh.
nightkino
how do we beat the duskg we have to defeat them
>>578581131>so we'd need to ban wylder, executor and raider from being played too because their survivability means nobody people down go down enough which makes the fight shorter got itYou're just babbling at this point. I'm saying you THINK they dont have enough HP because the game is long SOLVED and you don't experience enough zdps nightmare lobbies anymore. The only fix for this is more content, not HP bloat o non-Everdarks.
>>578581625Do you not understand what iframes mean
>>578581884Their leader Devilgawd is too powerful
Ooo nice. Timely relic pull. Now I can join the caster wylder trend with gaols.
>>578581458The game is full of hybrid weapons, so pick literally any melee+magic stat and you'll have fun.
>>578581625Watch that video again moron, why do you think he rolls to the side like that, its for distance/positioning not iframesIf Artorias's sword hits you it will ignore your iframes
>>578579093Who are you quoting
>>578581458Kys tendiejeet
>>578582438but i have a soft spot for club bash and no gay magic
>>578582589Okay then do that
>>578582301that intelligence adds a surprising amount of extra damage too, shame about the wasted stonesword key line though
>>578582301>Stonesword keyNice but none of my wylder builds have gaols
>>578582019Yes. I know the concept. And I get what it means to say an attack ignores iframes. Yet, the front flips used to be easy to dodge in Dark Souls 1, and now they're difficult to dodge in Nightreign. I'm not the only one who has noticed this. So I wonder why there is a step up in difficulty. If you want to insist that the attack always ignored i frames in DS1, then you have to prove it to me with frame data. or offer me an alternative explanation for the difficulty increase. An explanation that actually makes sense.>>578582545He's just one of those weirdos who doesn't lock on. Other players lock on, and they do a normal roll to the side. Instead of a forward roll to the side. Dodging to the side is important. I remember that much. But as long as it's too the side, the timing is pretty forgiving. In Nightreign, dodging to the side can still easily get you hurt.
>>578582860and yet you still open themhow curious
>>578581458Saty here tendogawd. You won.
>>578581458get stone club and cragblade and golden vow
>>578582876Jesus christ you stupid nigger look at your own video and notice that he's rolling to avoid collision, never rolling into the sword because it ignores iframes. The guide is saying that he found surge sprint more consistent for that. No one has to prove shit to you just keep dying to artorias like the retarded faggot you are
Keep it in steam dms yuritrannies
>>578581884>>578581317>>578581243Not your time yet shitter
you cannot silence my hatred for gaols
Pretty neat relic but i dont really play recluse
>>578583471i just don't see any single appeal for dexcluse or magical raidercaster wylder at least has 6th sense, bleed grapple and can keep his vigor
>>578583471It'd be nice on a Balancers Duchess build or on an Ironeye build
>>578581884we need to post our boobs on erg
we need to post zork on erg
>>578583157I don't know exactly what the collision boxes of the sword are. *Maybe* he's avoiding collision, and maybe he's not.Do you understand that dodging sideways would clear a hitbox, and dodging backwards wouldn't? Here, let me draw you a picture. Just because you dodge, that doesn't mean you're in the clear, if the hitbox of the sword still lingers after you iframes, then you will get hit after your roll.That's only one possibility. Another might be that the game has a way of detecting the direction the player is rolling. it's would be easy mathematically. You just get the vector of the player's rolling direction, get the vector of the sword's direction. Do a dot product. And if it's closer to zero, the player is safe. If it's close to 1 or -1 then the player is unsafe. That would essentially make it so the player has to dodge to the side to be safe.>The guide is saying that he found surge sprint more consistent for that. And guess what? In DS1, I didn't need a surge sprint for consistency. I could roll dodge it 99.999% of the time. Now in Nightreign, my chances are closer to 50%.
>>578584016What a heckin' wholesome post you just made on r/shittydarksouls xister let me give you an updoot queen
>>578583471Dexcluse chungus cekino
>>578583672Caster raider still has all his str damage, its just a way to dump FP and do some reasonable damage and then go back to doing normal raider stuff.
>>578583157
>>578584174*Maybe* he's not a fucking smoothbrain like you and he could see the attack interrupt the roll, not catch you with a lingering hitbox after the roll animation. Same as literally everyone else who's been saying this for years.>No, it's everyone else who is wrongEvery time. Go test it yourself if you don't believe it or keep being an obtuse nigger as usual, no one cares.
>>578583001>Satya hereGood Morning!
>>578584468but because of how the relic system and passives in general work, you'll either be doing low magic stuff or low raider stuffat best you can use the new FP bar to fuel strength balancer slop
>>578584739Welcome to another Duskblood Network Test build video
What relics/relic sets do people even run on Scholar
>>578543727This tbqh
>>578584831dex respec is mandatory unless you want to go full cuck chair, so don't bother unless you've got one of those to start
>>578584739Exposed the tendiejeet nice work
>>578584597Multiple people have said his front flips are fucky in Nightreign. Yet, nobody has an explanation for the discrepancy. One anon offered the idea that the hitbox is actually misaligned, and comes out faster than his sword. But he didn't really prove that either.It's not just me. Hell, the guide maker had to mention it at all, because people were perplexed by it. By his explanation falls flat. Saying that it always worked that way, doesn't explain why it was easier before, and it's harder now.
daily creasycuck humiliation ritual
how do we stop duskbloods my fellow ergies
>>578585272And tons of people said it always worked like that because it did. Some didn't notice or forgot after 15 years. Doesn't matter. It ignores iframes like it always did, test it yourself or keep dying like a dumb bitch.
I use to be gud. Now I'm not gud. I'm almost bad. How do I git gud again?Its actually really bad, bros. I use to win 95% of my duels, now its maybe half. I use to go into a match with literally no anxiety whatsoever. I'd be pumped at the opportunity to shit on the next opponent. Now when I enter the match my nerves are shot. I get shaky and spaghetti starts falling out of my pockets.
>>578585656Again, if you want to insist that the mechanic ignores iframes, that explanation alone does not explain the difference in difficulty. Even if I were to concede and say "I agree that in both games, Arotias's front flip ignores iframes"... then what? There is still no explanation for why the front flips are harder in Nightreign than in DS1.
>>578585821You played when the game was more alive = more players = more chance of chungus timmies and kevins. Now all that's left are the sweaty tryhards.
Nightreign spoiled this. I ain't goin' near that motherfucker.
>>578584761not really, he ends up with 38 int, comparable to dutchess. he keeps his str scaling, he just loses some endurance, which does suck, but raider's whole game is stamina management.
>>578583247wrong
>>578585986There's no difference in difficulty. Either your unc reflexes got even worse (we have webms proving this) or you're conditioned by newer games to roll forward late instead of sideways early. The former failed against ds1 artorias too.
>>578586000Shit, bud. I'm the tryhard. I think I just need to calm my nerves. Its really fucking me up. Not that it matters a ton, but I've always been in the radiant gold bracket. People have to at least be halfway decent to be there, even when the pool was larger.
>>578585986He came out 14 years ago. You had child reflexes. Now you're old and crusty.
>>578586385wait he only gets 38 int? i've never looked it up before i just assumed it was around 50that's so bad what the fuck...
>>578586556need your goynip and earl grey bro
i am reinstalling civ 7 and elden ring nightreign.
>>578586804>goynipThats always such a crapshot. Either it gets me maximum comfy immersed or my brain is too scrambled to pay attention to what I'm doing.
>>578584997>gets 40 dexwowdo people run magic on him or is his int too low? what relics does he need for it?
>>578586964Do your parents know you're trans?
>>578586406Again, I'm not the only one who noted how fucky the front flips are in Nightreign. Are you saying we all have depreciated unc reflexes? I'm actually better at games now than I was before, btw.>we have webms proving thisWho doesn't have webms of themselves getting rekt? The best players on the password have embarrassing webms. Cherry picking especially bad moments among 100 games, doesn't prove your point. And as far as I can reemember, none of the webms I'm featured in actually show poor reflexes specifically.In my last fight against artorias, I assumed that the hotbox was misaligned like the other anon said, and dodged a little sooner than the visual. That actually helped me dodge his first 3-flip combo. The later in the fight, he does another flip combo on me, and I didn't get it consistently that time, despite attempting the same strategy that worked the first time. idk, maybe I just made a simple mistake the second time. But the point is that I am capable of dodging his flip. When it works, it works. But when it doesn't work... I don't know why, because I'm doing what I always did before.>or you're conditioned by newer games to roll forwardNo. The old Artorias muscle memory is still ingrained into me, because I got good enough to defeat him hitless at SL1. So when that muscle memory fails me in Nightreign, I have to wonder why that is. Something has changed. You don't have an explanation.
>>578587046>magicJust use the bell.
>>578586406>>578587173
>>578587173I mean the webms where you couldn't dodge a banished knight while two other uncs with the same weapons dodged fine.>when that muscle memory fails me in Nightreign, I have to wonder why that isBecause you suck. I don't owe you an explanation why you suck, I just said his attack always ignored iframes when you denied it. Go roll into him here and in ds1 if you don't believe it, not my problem.
>>578586406Artorias from Nightreign clipping the player, despite the player clearing the visuals of the attack: https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxEB54EBXgFBKPhPDUAHaAqAijo8Z_PuCxArtorias from DS1 missing the player, who barely escapes the visual of the attack. https://youtu.be/eqoexpRMuMo?t=111For both videos, watch it in slow motion, and watch how close the feet are to Artorias. Both technically clear by a small margin, but the Nightreign player gets hit.
>>578587890>Go roll into him here and in ds1 if you don't believe itI don't roll forward or back, so this is all a red herring. You're do focused on the notion of him ignoring iframes, that you're imagining this fantasy where I'm rolling forward and back, and I typically roll sideways to avoid the front flips. The only thing that could make me change my roll direction, is if the solution stopped working, and I needed to experiment to find a more consistent solution. But other than that, I always dodge to the side. So this whole "he ignores iframes" argument is nothing but a fantasy cope in your brain to defend the game.>I mean the webms where you couldn't dodge a banished knight while two other uncsIt came down to frame counting, where I dodged about 1-3 frames *too soon*. How does that prove bad reflexes?
>>578587046Sorcery scholar is a meme chungus build.
>>578588291>frame countingNo one on earth "counts frames." They dodge by feel consistently, and you alone couldn't get the feel down. >You're do focused on the notion of him ignoring iframesBecause he does. >>578582876>If you want to insist that the attack always ignored i frames in DS1, then you have to prove it to me with frame dataIt ignores iframes. Roll into it in either game and you'll see it cancel your roll, not hit you with a lingering hitbox after the roll ends. That's it. The rest of your posts is your problem.
>>578588717>No one on earth "counts frames."Not that kind of frame counting. I mean when determining the difference between my dodge and the other player's dodge, the timing was so tight in the footage, that the only way to tell the difference was to pause the videos and count frame by frame.>That's it. The rest of your posts is your problem.Oh, no, no, no. That wasn't "it". The issue was "You weren't dodging the front flips in DS1 dude, his flip attack ignores iframes and this was ported over to nightreign"You said the flips weren't being dodged. And then it turned into "The guide is saying that he found surge sprint more consistent for that."Not only have I proven that players were dodging the front flips, but I've shown evidence that dodging the front flips is less consistent in Nightreign.
>>578589203Shut that freak up with your maggot
>>578589203If you weren't autistic and could read context you would understand that by "dodging" he meant "iframing." In his next post he said you rolled for positioning. You denied that it ignores iframes. That was the contention. The rest is you talking to yourself basically.
I'm going to sleep I don't want to look at you tards argue for the whole thread
>https://youtu.be/TtnlWDLCEvI?t=133is steel right?he says elden ring is like a 3d fighting game and that duskbloods is NOT it seems opposite though?
he is finally going to sleep queue up sisters
>>578590371All games are rhythm games when you are in a flowstate.
Another thread shat up by another greasy pigheaded back and forth
>>578590371Not watching the vid but I'm guessing he means the neutral/pressure/frame trap game, whereas bloods is more like a TPS/gunz kinda dynamic.
Shut your maggot freak up maggot. Freak maggot
>>578590590yeah but isn't gunz kinda gameplay just fightan game too?its just more fast, more aerial and you just kinda zoom zoom but still fighting game
how did steel afford a switch 2?
>>578590864Broadly speaking any competitive action game is like that but there's a point where the movement and frame data is too erratic for precise spacing and frame advantage.
>>578589831He wanted to provide an explanation for why I get hit by the frontflip. but that explanation was found lacking. Now that I have provided evidence that there is more than mere iframe ignoring at play, he(and you) want to ignore everything else. Because you don't want to admit that perhaps this Creasy guy you loathe so much actually has some insight.
>>578590287Sad that only /erg/ or sleep is your only options for the night.>>578590571>Hey guys, can you cool it with the game mechanics debate, so we can go back to flirting with each other?
>talk. about. the. game.>noo not like that!!
>>578590571btw, I've been in queue this whole time. It would be really easy to stop the argument by actually playing the game.
>>578591072He's a popular streamer
>>578591284It's a little late to pretend you weren't denying the iframe cancel. You did multiple times and demanded proof of it. He said you weren't dodging (iframing) it in ds1 then clarified that you rolled out of the hitbox, not the active frames. Now you're moving goalposts to "well it's still harder for some other reason," which as always couldn't possibly be a skill issue.
>>578590696In this house we say faggot
>>578591759preach
>>578591481>>578591665It would be much more tolerable if you weren’t functionally a brick wall and there was a point in debating anything with you but that’s sadly not the case
creasallah has officially won
>>578591759Shut it maggot freak. Point that freak back at yourself maggot freak
List of winners and losers?
a house divided cannot stand, heil the house of /erg/!
>>578591696>It's a little late to pretend you weren't denying the iframe cancelI'm not pretending I denied it. I'm still questioning if it's true. I provided a plausible explanation that would explain how the player can i-frame dodge sideways and not forward and back. By the game doing a simple dot product calculation. Unfortunately, the only way to prove this is possible, is to find footage of people dodging sideways, having their foot clip through the sword, and avoiding harm. But I haven't found that in the ~3 videos I checked. But what I have found, is footage of *near* sword touches in DS1, and compared it to footage of a *near* sword touch in Nightreign. And in Nightreign, the player doesn't escape harm.This gives us multiple possibilities.1. And this is for your benefit. Perhaps the Nightreign player was just a haaaair closer to the sword than the DS1 player. That's possible.2. Perhaps the hitbox of the sword is larger in Nightreign.3. Perhaps when they ported Nightreign, they didn't realize the importance of the dot product calculation and omitted it.>"well it's still harder for some other reason"No.... My *initial* comment was about the difference in difficulty between the two games >>578579708Noting that the iframe explanation falls flat. You guys are so focused on proving that ignoring iframes is a real thing, that you don't even understand that proving it true still won't explain the discrepancy in difficulty.
Everyone loses because its an argument over the internet, even if you win you're both retarded. Its like winning the special olympics.
>>578590696Don't post my finger here. point that freak back at your maggot
>>578586406I think in ds1 arty had worse tracking. Now he can track even surge sprinting
>>578583000Hello cc. Please to be queueing?
>>578592610Greasy lives for internet arguments though. It's the only thing going in his life.
>>578586401>>578585650>>578584016Shut up
>>578591815I'm not a brick wall. Here's how every argument goes:Me: "rahh! this game frustrates me, and here's why!"Them: "Here's an explanation"Me: "After consideration, here's a character limit breakdown for why that explanation doesn't make sense."Them: "Wait, what...? You're not listening to me? YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME?! Oh my goooood, the ego! You're so full of yourself! Know your place! We're you're betters! I told you what to think already! Stop defying us!"
>>578592602>still doing exactly what I said in the post you quotedIt's a simple fact that you refuse to accept or test out yourself for some reason. >My *initial* comment was about the difference in difficulty>He says the front flip attack ignores iframes, and it's been that way since dark souls 1. But that doesn't sound right.
>>578592602Oh and a 4th possibility is that the hitbox of the sword extends down sooner than the actual graphic of the sword.
>>578592960>here's a bunch of copium to deny the possibility of a skill issue, hitting the character limit because of how distressed I am
>>578593064>It's a simple fact that you refuse to accept or test out yourself for some reason.I'm not reinstalling prepare to die edition, starting a new character, and fighting my way to artorias, just to test if sideways dodging is equally interruptible as back and forth dodging.You forgot to quote the remainder of the statement.>Because I was able to dodge his front flip with 99% consistency in Dark Souls 1. So something has changed.That there is the core issue. Why is dodging the attack far less consistent in Nightreign than in DS1.
>>578593213Hey, you can think it's copium all you want. But today, I've provided evidence that I'm not the only one who thinks the front flip in Nightreign is different than the front flip in DS1. I even provided video showing similar scenarios in both games with differing outcomes.
>>578593429>I'm not doing all thatBut you demand we do it. We're just stating a fact, believe it or don't, test it or don't. >Why is dodging the attack far less consistentNot because of the iframe cancel, because that's always been there, which you refuse to accept. >>578593587>i'm not the only one with skill issuesOkay.
i got a 150 night tide up royal gs and melted cuz we were already in te rain. ishiyaki genius kino
Creasy here. You guys were right. I'm gonna start practicing him in the Boss Arena mod now. Thanks for the advice!
>>578593830>But you demand we do it.*if* you want me to actually believe it to be true, then providing the evidence is necessary, yes. It's not a demand. But it is a requirement. You can choose to take the sidequest if you want. But if you refuse, then you're going to find it difficult to convince me of your claim. I'm more inclined to believe you now, since you made me remember how the flip interrupts the rolls when moving forward and back. But since I can't find footage of the flip interrupting side rolls in DS1, I'm not fully convinced.>Not because of the iframe cancelThen an actual explanation would be nice. You guys don't want to dig into this issue any deeper, because ulimately, you just want to frame me as a shitter, and go about your day. The notion that the game *might* have a real flaw, scares you. Because then it gives me the greenlight to criticize the game, and you really hate it when I criticize the game.
>>578594468kek
>>578594381In my last game, I forgot I had 250% night tide on. Thinking I could just run into the rain real fast to open a rise, and died in 2 seconds.
>>578594468This is funny and all. But it's also a little annoying how we have players here practicing the game with a mod, and then they act like they're hot shit at the game. Like of course if you practice a boss risk free, then you can learn all the ins and outs, with no fear of losing. Make all the mistakes you want, because there's no penalty.
>>578594495Nobody owes you the endless explanations that you always demand. It's a simple statement of fact. Like I originally said, believe it or keep eating shit to artorias, it's your call.>>578594468>creasy admitting he needs to git gudComedy gold
Did you happen across Knight Artorias?The legendary Abysswalker, from the old tales.…Well, if you haven't, it's just as well…He's a colourless sort, if you ask me.Mwah hah hah!
>>578594861>Nobody owes you the endless explanations that you always demand.The explanations aren't endless. You just don't have the answers. You keep arguing with me, because you want me to accept your half-baked explanations. But I don't have to accept them.>believe it or keep eating shit to artoriasBelief in the idea that the front flip ignores iframes, doesn't disprove the notion that the front flip is harder to dodge in Nightreign.Even if I acted as though it were true, there still exists the fact that in DS1 I could dodge it 99% of the time, and in Nightreign, it's closer to 50%.
>>578594819>we have players herefew are saying this.
>>578594819>But it's also a little annoying how we have players here practicing the game with a mod, and then they act like they're hot shit at the game.this is scrubquotes worthy
>>578595451Yes they are, you're an obtuse nigger who always makes up some baloney about the proof you're provided, like the banished knight thing.>half-baked explanations"He always ignored iframes" doesn't need any further explanation, let alone your brand of character limit verbal diarrhea. That's it. If you thought it's harder because of that, you're wrong. That's it. If you still have an issue with it you figure it out, and consider the possibility of gitting gud.
>>578595910Modding to get good is cheating. Play the game in its entirely like the rest of us. Of course you can learn the perfect spacing when there's no risk.>"What happens if I mov 1 inch to the side?">dies>"What happens if I move 2 inches to the side?>dies>"What happens if I move 3 inches to the side?>Avoids death>"Eureka!">"Hey guys, here's a video showing the proper positioning of the bosses. Anyone could have figured it out." :^)
>>578105489Yes it is? That's how you're supposed to get them in a normal playthrough.
>>578596325>4 day old crosspost
>>578596156>obtuseYou keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.>"He always ignored iframes" doesn't need any further explanationYes it does. That's inadequate to explain the difference in difficulty dodging Artorias's front flips between the two games. In fact, it's kind of gaslighty. Trying to make players believe it was always that hard, when it wasn't. It was waaaaay easier before.
>>578596303But the mod is free and open to everyone, there's no barrier to entry, and it doesn't effect real runs on official servers. I fail to see where the "cheating" is. People are modifying files they own /own the digital license to KEK completely legally and without tampering with legitimate runs or save files.Sounds like you're just too lazy to practice
I haven't been involved in this stupid back and forth, but I do want to chime in that the practice mod is cheating and gives you a dishonest leg up on people who don't use it and it invalidates all your clutches. Sorry that's just the truth.
>>578596650The mod isn't a part of the game. Doesn't matter if it's freely available.You can get good faster than everyone else, because you don't have to play 30 minutes expeditions between boss attempts.And you can take wilder risks, since you have no fear of losing. Which helps you find and refine unconventional strategies much sooner than everyone else.
>>578596540It's adequate to refute your theory that it's because he ignores iframes, because he always did. You can asspull a bunch of other theories if you want but that fact that you're doing that and also still denying the iframe thing shows that it's about denying the possibility of a skill issue at all costs.
>>578596325Mental illness
>>578596815>a dishonest leg up on people who don't use itbro, it's a team game. or has /erg/ rotted your brain enough to forget that?
>You can get good fast>And you can take wilder risks, since you have no fear of losing.>Which helps you find and refine unconventional strategies much sooner than everyone else. Bro's... This practice thing... Sounds kind of good? We should tell other people about practicing. How did it take us this long to discover?
>>578596863You can also do that. Or watch videos and accept their info. Or whine all day that miyazaki and the fromsoft community are gangstalking you to make you lose games.
Shiteazu deserves the rope
wylder risks
we're shooting ropes on wylder
>>578596980>It's adequate to refute your theory that it's because he ignores iframesBut that wasn't the key issue. And also no it's not adequate there either. Because you never proved that it actually ignores iframes in both games. You have a fairly good observation about front and back dodges being interrupted. But side dodges are still up to scrutiny. Since I posted two players making close side dodges, and only the Nightreign player getting hit.>You can asspull a bunch of other theories if you wantTheory crafting isn't asspulling. You just lack the ability to extrapolate. The man in the video gave you a reason, and that's all you needed to know. Thinking beyond that is just flim-flam to you.
>>578596501>>578597015I forgot to reply to him and only remembered just now. Better late than never.
>>578597243I think it's fair to say that Fromsoft didn't design the game with the intention for players to practice in a mod. So the fact that you can win their game by relying on a mod, doesn't prove that their game is always fair. It just means that you found a personal way to cope with the unfairness.
>>578597493>that wasn't the key issueI was responding to your denial of it always working like that. It did. We have no obligation to test the rest of your made up copium for you. Test it and post proof yourself if you want, or git gud.
just invented Duchess x Albert
>>578597987>I was responding to your denial of it always working like thatDon't care. Because that wasn't the key issue, and you know it. That's why it's not enough for you to prove it true, you also have to make the snide "git gud" comments. Which is an outright denial of exploring the issue of Artorias's front flips any further. You want me to stop criticizing the game. That's what this is really about.
>>578597628So is this about your ego or about not eating shit against D5 artorias? Because you can fast track the latter by watching videos and practicing d0 or mods. Or keep whining about the hardest mode being hard.
>>578598283>complain about jobbing to artorias>deny that he always ignored iframes>"he always ignored them, now git gud">"wtf why are you responding with these two things"Just greasy things
>>578598317It's about whether or not the game is actually fun to play. And measuring it by its own merits. Not supplementing its lack with mods.
>>578597628why does their intention matter? did miyazaki intend for you to cry like a bitch every time you get hit? sounds like cheating since thats what you doif we're going by what the devs intended to get a pure gameplay experience then why don't you run halo scythe double balancers? it's a developer intended combo, completely honest since you're not doing anything unintended.
>>578598448>>complain about jobbing to artoriasBut I didn't.>>deny that he always ignored iframesYes.>>"he always ignored them, now git gud"This is inadequate to explain the discrepancy between games. And it might not even be wholly true, since you never actually proved it.
will they ban you for using the mod
>>578597274I hate shitsu but this is the first time i've ever agreed with himthere's no barrier to entry to getting good besides putting in the work yourself, all of these posts about cheating or developer intent is pure mental gymnastics and cope
>>578598612yes
>>578598450You don't need mods to practice solo d0 artorias, they just make it faster if you're in a rush to master him. Same with videos. >>578598592The "discrepancy" is your own theory to figure out, I just told you that it's not the iframe cancel because that's the same.>I didn't complain about jobbing, I just blamed my jobbing on miyazakiRight I forgot who I'm talking to for a sec
>>578598565>why does their intention matter?Well if we're judging their game, then we should judge it by its own merits. Which don't include mods.>why don't you run halo scythe double balancers???? choosing what to do within the boundaries of the game's rules, is not equivalent to modding the game.I don't run halo scythe because it doesn't seem like a fun way to play the game. A combination of being too easy, while also being disconnected from the fights, since all I'm doing is flinging projectiles from a distance.
>>578598612No the mod launches in offline mode. They only ban you for manipulating your save file.
>>578543436Me on the right
>>578598612It launches in offline mode and I think even uses a seperate savefile (not 100% sure on that do your own research)It even lets you test buffs and passives from the RTH
how bad are the souls games on mouse and keyboard?I don't have a controller at the moment but feel like replaying the trilogy.
>>578598653Nah. He's a faggot and anyone using that mod is a faggot too. This is the truth I'm afraid.
>>578598950>You don't need mods to practice solo d0 artoriasHuh? D0 still takes a long time to get to the end of day 2. And even then Artorias appearing is RNG.>The "discrepancy" is your own theory to figure outWell, judging by how upset my posts makes you, it's not. Maybe if you actually put the work into investigating this issue, then you would stop being mad, and have a real answer for me.But sure, you're not obligated to assist me in this theory. But at the same time, you desire to pin all the blame on me without adequate proof. I simply refuse this. Which sends you into a tailspin.>Right I forgot who I'm talking to for a secI didn't complain about jobbing though. I highlighted the fact that the video's explanation for why players get hit by front flips, isn't adequate. And then you've been crying about me not accepting the explanation.
>>578599041>>578598565Oh also, I do wield the halo scythe every now and again. If it seems prudent to do so. I just *build* around it.
>>578598653He wants to fast track success, and then look down on others who chose the steady honorable path. Which makes him a faggot.But he's going to frame the issue as "you just don't want to practice because you're lazy". When in fact, it's lazier to skip expeditions. Actually playing full expeditions for each boss attempt takes more work.
are you dusking the blood my fellow zorkchads
>>578599495You can quit out if it's not death knights day 1. Yes it's faster with the mod or videos, that's what I said.>you have to investigate my baseless claims for meThere's something very wrong with your brain. I never claimed there was an issue with the flips, you did. The onus is on you. I just said they always ignored iframes, and offered one possibility you missed, which is that you suck. Your first post was about jobbing to artorias again, and subsequently blaming everything but yourself.
>>578599476lol u mad bruhhh
>>578599989>You can quit out if it's not death knights day 1Last game we got bears before Artorias. What's the pattern for Artorias to appear?>>you have to investigate my baseless claims for me>There's something very wrong with your brain.It looks like you stopped reading my post midway. Hey, I can do that too!
>>578599763yeah as i've sad previously you're just retarded and probably fat
>>578599302Pretty bad but it's how pvp autists play the game since pvp is all about exploiting how fast you can menu so it's totally doable
>>578598653same, practicing = cheating is a really stupid argument.
too much samefagging for shittzu
>>578600415>i didn't say you have to do it, i just passive aggressively suggested you shouldThere's that reddit faggotry again. Prove your own asspulls. Or git gud. Or keep eating shit. We all know you'll pick the third.
>>578600742Well his complaint about me, is always that I'm not good enough to criticize the game. But he only got good by artificial means. If he had to take the same path I did, then perhaps he would understand.But also, this guy hasn't played on the password in months, and in a previous thread, someone mentioned that his streak is actually lower than mine. so in the end, slow and steady wins the race. :)
>>578600952Conditions are not necessarily obligations.Conditionally, you need to provide proof before I accept your ridicule. But you are not obligated to do it.I will never accept your ridicule, until you meet the condition.
>>578600994You could never win a manta run in a million years. even if practice was seed cheating and the boss was cold dogs. you would die at bbh
GODeazu won
>creasyallah has a longer streak than shiteazuoh no practicemod xisters not like this!
>>578601215What's a manta run? Oh that streamer? You mean I could never with while playing with that streamer.Interesting challenge. Where would you rank Manta on the tier list?
really activated my almonds
>>578600994what does streaking have to do with the statement that practice makes you better? also i don't get why practising is considered artificial, if you want to put in the hours then so be it, no? i think it's a waste of time because why tryhard alone when you can just play the game with others but it's definitely not a bad thing to do if you want to improve.
>>578601384manta is quite possibly one of the worst nightreign players ever and actively makes the game harder for you
>>578601435>what does streaking have to do with the statement that practice makes you better?If you take that phrase and look at it in a vacuum, then of course it's true. But the issue is that he wants to act like an authority on the game, and tell me that I lack the authority. So let's compare e-peens. I mean streaks. And figure out who really has the authority.>>578601487Yeah, but people say that about me too. Rank her. I want to do the math, if I could actually with with her or not. And in order to do that math, I need to know where she ranks.
creasy manta linkup??
>>578600494hmm it can't be that bad then. I'll give it a shot.
>>578601693She's in her own tier below Z tier.
>>578601693right uhh okay have fun comparing e-peens with each other...
manta or that nakadashi personwho's worse?
>>578602009tie
thoughts on crossbow revenant
>>578602175gem
>>578602175yurmy
>>578601861Really? idk. I watched a bit of her stream back in the day, and she didn't seem all *that* bad. You're giving me Practice too? Me and Practice win pretty much all of our games. There were a couple of losses we endured when I was less experienced. But that's long ago now. Since then, we win them all.>>578602009I don't want to bash Nakadashi. Because I was probably on his level back then. So I sympathize. But man... If Manta is really Nakadashi level, then I might not be able to carry her. However, I do have a Naka win on record.
>>578602175I did a crossbow revenant beast claw hybrid build. It was okay. Not as fun as ballista, but less punishing openings. It's not a lot of damage and you don't have mark or restage to do any extra damage, but you can still have beast claw for the nightlord and use the crossbow for fun or for reds, trash and for when you're out of FP.
>>578602175crossbows are dog on every character, the only time its even slightly useful is to draw aggro on the moth if you're the lowest damage on the team vs bugs
>>578601129That's nice. If you wanna convince anyone that there's a "discrepancy" besides your skill, the burden is on you. You're not off to a great start by denying the iframe thing.
>>578602915>If you wanna convince anyone that there's a "discrepancy" besides your skill, the burden is on you.I've already posted people noting this discrepancy, and provided video evidence of it. If that doesn't convince to at least entertain the notion that their *might* be something more going on than iframe ignoring, then I don't know what else I could provide for you.
>>578602915Oh also, even if I fail to convince you, I'm still convinced myself. So I still won't accept your ridicule.
Devilraped
pulley xbow
That was simply epic. Wow. Base form augur in depth 5. Duskbloods lost. We zorked all over her
Oooooooohlala lala lalaWhy can't we be friends?Why can't we be friends?
>all melee damage passives>find perfect RoA greatbow at the end of day 2>base augurIt worked I guess
>>578604354cc and trishtina
>>578604337gg zorkinosjeetarinos
>>578604553>>578604354our society when cc finally unblocks trish
>>578601328Bodied that practroon mod fraud well done.
Practina mod
>>578603180
Miyazaki suggests FromSoftware is keen to return to single-player games after The Duskbloods and Elden Ring: Nightreign>"I mean, that's a different director," he added, referring to Junya Ishizaki who helmed Nightreign, "but both of those ideas just coincided with being multiplayer games. It's not necessarily some big reveal saying that this is the direction we plan to go moving forward. We still have a heavy focus on single-player content as well. This is just something that happened to work out the way it did.">It was while continuing this thought, and saying it had been fun to make a multiplayer game, that Miyazaki said: "But it's like, the more you work on something multiplayer for a long time, if anything, it scratches that itch only to want to make something single-player again."https://www.eurogamer.net/hidetaka-miyazaki-fromsoftware-single-player-games
If I want to Invade on Switch what level should I aim for?
>>57860563150-60
>>57860563130
>>57860563130-60
>>578605631Shes tired from squeezing out little Execubs but shes almost done, just 3 more to go!
waow ed libra still exists. gg
>>57860563167
>>578604878I maybe do one game a month, xis.
>>578607029>busy playing fraud mods and not playing the actual gameWe know.
>>57860563110
>>578606803no he doesn't
>>578606803ggsu
Why does vite always play wylder instead of an honest class without shitter sense? For someone who likes to complain about all classes being to strong he sure plays one of the strongest...
>>578607171Why would I do that if I'm not even interested in Shartreign anymore? You make no sense.
Everytime I see a Wylder lose their Sixth Sense they subconsciously get sorted into the "raped and lame" category in the back of my mind
>>578607383Agreed - he should terrorize the queue with relicless scholar.
>>578607383He's the closest to a base elden ring character.
>>578607427>I jobbed all the time when I was still playing nightreign, but I could totally have a streak higher than CreasyGAWD if I really wanted to I'm just bored of being too goodListen to yourself sometime
>>578607524Not really, it's ironeye. Wylder's skill is pretty unique while Ironeye is mostly a stronger bloodhound step.
>>578607591Stop putting words in my mouth.>>578607624But I hate both bows and Bloodhoud's Step.
>>578599763>>578594819>>578596815>muh honor>muh dishonestylol. you guys already use online resources, docs with hidden values, videos etc. third party tools outside the game. the reality is you're afraid of practicing and still sucking ass cause it in your mind it removes your excuse.
>>578608218The devs intended for me to play with perfect relics for thousands of games with all the information about the game being readily available, actually.
who is the bullgoat varre of nightreign
4 more days for Tarnished edition and cricket from Fromsoft.Duskbluds really stole the spotlight.
practice
>>578608494It doesn't take much to overshadow horse armor and 2 starting classes
>>578607524playing executor and refusing to parry is the closest to a base elden ring characteryou can't turn off sixth sense
>>578608461ironeye or wylder
>>578608494We got a trailer a few days ago.https://youtu.be/r5i9FJuV8u4
>>578608598DOS...
>>578608494I still can't decide whether I want to get Tarnished Edition on the Switch, $80 to replay Elden Ring just so I can invade tendies is a bit steep
>>578608630his name is tinpo
>>578607467>t. this character has a better passive than the player, and me is better than me, but I'm not obsessed and raped
>>578608494stop posting gachaslop
>>578608494I hope there's some sort of patch at least that comes with this cashgrab
>>578608494we will be comfy playing on our lucatiel builds and buffing the idus sword for pvp
>>578607591Bodied that clown. Well done.
>>578608721what would they possibly need to patch other than various bug fixes balance is a exercise in futility
>>57860887550% damage nerf across the board deleting flails slapping great runes onto invaders
>>578608494>the full tendiejeet game overshadowed the complete edition/DLC pack of a 4 year old gameShocker
>>578607427>I burned myself out on the content by trying to brute-force results instead of actually playing the game more with /erg/It makes perfect sense.
>>578609009It's selling
Duskbloods status????
>>578606803>>578605631>>578608494>>578608701Lovely selfies of yourself
>>578609038That's not true. Being a spacing enjoyer is what allowed me to keep playing. Spacing attacks is far more fun and interesting that pressing the iframe button.
>>578609329I think I would've stopped playing far sooner if I was forced to play rollslop.
>>578608218Actually, I got ridiculed pretty hard for refusing to look at the thread docs. And then I got ridiculed for refusing to look up boss guides. And then I got ridiculed for not knowing how the seed checker works. And now I'm being ridiculed for not modding the game to practice bosses outside of the intended experience.I think you guys just get really insecure when you're confronted with the reality that you shortcutted your way to success, instead of earning it properly. I'd respect you more, of you just admitted you supplimented, and remained humble about it. But instead you pretend like what you did was normal and your arrogance is deserved.>>578608301>The devs intended for me to play with perfect relicsOh yeah, that reminded me. I was ridiculed for not using a mod that automatically sells indesirable relics at the shop.
>>578609260thanks
>>578609472the reason people suggested you look up boss guides was because you were shit enough to warrant it and wouldn't stop complaining it was the game's faultthe rest of us can cancel caligo ults with unfamiliar characters on pure instinct, even mush could do it with guardian
>>578609472You got ridiculed because you showed up late and refused (and still refuse) to take the advice of people who've already walked the road. Everyone here struggled in depths 3-4 at one point, even on the password. Hitting 9999 used to be an achievement. There were wipes to night's cavalry and gaping dragon. If there's anyone who's shortcutted their way to success, it's you for playing after others solved the game enough to baby you.And yet you think you deserve to be treated with the same respect.
>>578609820I was at the level that a non guide watcher is supposed to be. You watched guides from the very beginning, so you had that advantage.Also, I started playing the game a lot later than everyone here. You already had hundreds of games under you belts before I had my first.Also, just about everything I ever complained about, I still believe is bullshit. I just adapted to the bullshit. The difference between me and you, is that you're a self flaggelating cuck who would blame yourself no matter how the game wrongs you.Also, no, the test of you can't cancel Caligo on instinct, because I've played games where can els have failed. And you've outright talked about the process of becoming avcustomed to vancel timings before.You always say "everyone" can do this or that. But it's always a blatant lie I can see through, because I play with everyone. Do you think I notices your mistakes or what? You argue like a little girl with your "everyone blah blah". Always going for the crowd angle. Do you even realize you sound like the stereotypical TV bully? It's pathetic
>>578581625The reason it feels easier in DS1 was because you had on press rolling if you were locked on and weren't rolling forward, unlike Nightreign where than inherent delay is present because now you have 8 directional rolling and can sprint to the sides and back.
thats it, viteazu and creasy 1v1 duskino zork only NOW
>>578610536this is what Mario stole from us
>>578610383almost everyone here was better than you within a few months, far less than you've been playing and without all the resources and thread advice that you got. you're just shit.
>>578604553>cc and trishtina
>>578610570Personally I enjoy learning from passionate people who have poured hours of labbing into the game so we don't have to. Imagine if we had to derive everything in life from 0 ourselves like math and science? Nothing would ever get down. That's what it means to be a ningen (that's Japanese for human). Sosoru ze!!
>>578608875shartian buff, haloslop nerf, beastclaw nerf
>>578610256I take advice all the time. I just don't take *all* of the advice. I'm discerning. Your problem is that you think everything you say goes. You treat me like a junior you can boss around. But I never take your shit, and that infuriates you. The fact of the matter is, though I may not be the best player, I'm still better than almost everyone was about 6 months. You guys all had streaks in the teens and 20 back then. Bossing me around like you were hot shit.Listen to yourself now. You're not even making sense. You simultaneously say I don't take your advice, while at the same time saying your advice shotcutted my success. Which is it?I've been ridiculed the most for not reading the docs, not watching the guides, anot participating in all the material that you solved. Now you're trying to say that I did all those things. No fuck you
>>578610745Anon kun, he's talking about elden ring not nightreign
jee is live
>>578610815Urusai schizo
>>578610745how would you reasonably buff guardian
>>578610770you just watched the artorias video anon posted. what are you babbling about lolhe's saying you're shit and got carried to d5/max rank by erg
>>578610815>network test q&aif you trick me again i'm filtering jee...
>>578610068So lame and raped and subhuman…>>578610536Shut up
>>578610923Thanks for clarifying. This is the power of erg when we team up against creasy
terrjeetbros… the duskchuds were shitting on our hero/boyfriend earlier…
>>578610815thanks smee_73
>>578611346Got his ass! Yes!!! Now that we called him out he's gonna stop posting!!!
unfortunately the council has decided that jee is a false prophet and an algo chaser
>terr caping for duskbloods all weekend despite not even owning the consolehttps://youtu.be/RgtuG6ogrJ0
smeenine
>>578610770Why are you talking like you know what the password was like before you joined? Devil had a 100+ streak before the DLC dropped. You've always had a hand cupping your balls the entire time you've been playing on the password, you're not better than anyone else was at the same amount of time they put in.Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say advice shortcutted you to success nor did I say you read docs/guides, I said you got babied. Because you did. Stop making things up.
go easy on smee he's not taking the news well and may resort to drastic measures
>>578610919charged guard counter affected by charge attack buffs/effects, added to all thrusting weaponslower stamina costsskill buffs stamina regen for self and allies
>>578610923I said a long time ago, that I would take advice if it's naturally given by the community. But I wouldn't go out of my way to watch guides. Well I just had a loss to artorias, and someone posted the guide. So ot was a natural exchange. I watched about 40% before arguing with you fucker distracted me.The guide confirmed criticism I've made about the boss before.1. that his basic combo attacks are too RNG to punish reliably. Remember we had a big argument about that before? I insisted that ot was too RNG, the ridicule came that I just need to get good. Until someone mentioned waiting for his big attacks to punish him.(He was likely quoting the video, in retrospect) And I said that was stupid, because it's no fun to fight him that way.Even the fucking guide maker has a teluctant tone when he tells you this. Because even he realizes how fucking stupid it is.Same thing with the front flips. Again, the guide maker gives the solution with that reluctant tone, because it doesn't make any sense! Why should yhe attack ignore i-frames? Why is the most consistent dodge method surge sprinting to the side? That's fucking retarded. But you're too much of a Fromdrone to see that.As for getting carried. I made my way to D4 on my own, as was the advice given. Then after that, I played a mixed bag of password games and random games. I rose and fell through the ranks with a very unsteady score. But there was a point where I fell far, and rose back to D5 through randoms alone.You brag about reaching 9999 earlier than me. But the fact is that you always looked up guides, you always looked up docs, and you always played on password. Hell, your discorders coordinate over voice chat. Or just regular text chat.This Holier than thou act is really tiresome. You act like your shit doesn t stink
is greasy still going on about how bosses are unfair because you can't fit a raider CR2 between every move?
>>578611817Interesting ideas nonnycupecakekins! But have you considered the gc play style just fundamentally fails in NR especially against certain bosses? Just give him a normal roll honestly.
greasy doesn't know raider can poise through attacks if he has enough poise
>>578612063normal roll wouldn't save guardian, he's still worse than wylder in every way
there are multiple jeecolytes here newfig
>>578611610Devil blocked me for a while, when he was mad at me for not kowtowing to his every word. But I don't want to open old wounds. That's in the past. Point is, I didn't play with him for a while.And though he may have had a 100 streak, a lot of you here didn't. Also, I said 6 months ago, Which was February. I was here in February. A lot of you guys revealed your steaks. They weren't high. Not everyone is Devil.>nor did I say you read docs/guides,YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT. Scroll back up to the Ryan Gosling reaction image! That anon replied to 2 of my posts. Accusing me of using all of those resources.If that anon isn't you, then SO WHAT. That's what the issue is currently about.
>>578611976>that his basic combo attacks are too RNG to punish reliably.If he starts with a thrust then he can only do 1 follow up attack. He does up to two otherwise and you can avoid everything by rolling the first attack backwards and then walking backwards some more.
>>578611976>But the fact is that you always looked up guides, you always looked up docswe didn't have those resources dumbass. we were here from the start learning the content as it dropped. we had no advantage over anyone except experience with fromslop. you spend hours whining about how the game is unfair and arguing against any advice you're given, while others quickly intuit that it's good advice. you're not some deep analyst, you're just a dense retard.>>578612063his guard counter is his unique playstyle. it just needs to be worth the risk/reward. that's the japanese way of balancing things, rather than homogenizing everything like blizzard.
>>578612612Just watch the video. Because that s going to explain ot better than the short curt version I just stated.
What the hell is going on here?
>>578612839daily greasy melty
Why do l*dd*rs (greasy) type in all caps when they're emotional?
>>578612512>If that anon isn't you, then SO WHAT.I heard a politician say something bad about people of different colors, can I attribute that quote to you and say you're a racist bigot? If that politician isn't you, then SO WHAT.You're ridiculous.
>>578612736>>578612736>we didn't have those resources dumbassYes you did. Boss guides came out almost immediately after release. I'm looking at a search result showing multiple video guides dated june 2025. The hell are you talking about?
my suggested guardian buff:respec now sets both str and dex to 70 but reduces HP down to 800this is after the balancers and skillslop nerf so you can't use it for greatbows
>>578612512>i don't watch that many videos!you watch videos, you get spoonfed by the thread. those are third party resources. the main point is that you shit on the practice mod because it's a threat to your ego, because you can blame your skill gap on it.
>>578613115greasy is basically always playing the practice (testing) mod, because he can freely 3 bar to adel without any consequences
>>578613184Kek
>>578613098just in case make it give him sub raider FP too
>>578602479Naka refuses to learn. We told him why his relics don't work and what he needs to equip and he just ignores us. I have no sympathy for him, easy block.
>>578612839Semi hourly greasy rape spanking session>>578612402Shut it
>>578613098Just make it so that he gets bonus damage on his next attacks whenever he blocks with steel guard. % damage amp, that gets stronger depending on the number of attacks blocked, with a cap at 5 attacks. Something similar to knight's resolve.Now you can block while still keeping up with the dps race.The main issue with Guardian is that it takes too much time getting the aggro (because he is melee and you need to reach a certain damage threshold), and you're not rewarded enough for blocking in most match up where you can't land a charged guard counter.
100 streaks after the year anniversary didn’t count anyway
greasy will argue that "everyone" is just made up but there's not a single person defending or agreeing with him
>>578611318>>578611428He also strolls over there just to shit the place up with his signature dogshit posting what a raped human being
>>578602479>manta didn't seem all *that* badyes she was, my record for most revives was a manta game
>>578613554manta's nightreign vods are all on her youtube, might open one at random to relive the experience
>>578613441Fuck off, only like 5 people had it. Stop making it an exclusive club
>>578613623My favorite runs were the ones of extremist or vit trying to flex and utterly failingOr the legendary zorb shifty manta run that ended on night 1There will never be another steamer like manta. The shitty SEA esl vtuber humor and annoying voice was the cherry on top
>>578613405you can stand in front of attacks in trios without having aggro>>578613002doesn't matter, we cleared the fights repeatedly before them. you can claim you don't watch videos but you do get spoonfed by the thread. either way you're clearly bad at learning the fights intuitively, and in general, and wanna have an excuse for your shitter. reminds me of bottom tier andys in fighting games. "i'd totally win if i mained a top tier." "i'd totally win if i practiced more."
>>578613115I *don't* watch that many videos.But the point is that I'm not totally opposed to watching videos. I just don't want to over do it, because it takes away the fun of learning the game naturally through community interactions.You will always move the goalpost. When I was D0, you said I wouldn't get past D2. When I was D2, you said I wouldn't get past D4. When I was D4, you said I wouldn't never make 9999. When I made it to 9999, you said I would never get a double digit streak.Now I have a streak over 50, and I'm regularly getting 20 here, 25 there. Hit 40 multiple times. Hit the 50s mutiple times, with devatating near PB losses.Fact of the matter is, despite your doubts, I steadily get better. I may not improve as fast as others. That sucks, but I made peace with that. But the only thing the practice mod will do, is help me improve at a faster rate. Every limit you've tried to impose on me, I've exceeded it. When will you learn? Oh who am I kidding, you'll never learn. If I hit a 100 streak, you will still say I was carried. You're just a hateful being of void.
>>578612939emotional immaturity and a need to be taken seriously through text
>>578613496This, any post which makes me upset in any thread from any board is made by terrjeeta. How is this guy EVERYWHERE?!
>>578613452Someone already agreed with me that Artorias's flip jumps are weird, then last time I brought it up.
>>578613496instantly triggered him that’s crazy nice work
>>578613737Dogshit players like sludge were hitting 80 streaks regularly months ago and he played meme shit 99% of the time. There is a simple fact that the password is easier to streak on and it’s even easier now since you’ll only run into players who have 2000+ games nonstop
tfw too intelligent to argue with creasy
>>578613496Being a contrarian cucklord is all he has going for him in life
>>578613982Same
>>578613623kino>>578613715i've gotta look for that run
>>578613729But I already cleared all of the bosses before I started posting about the game in the thread. Are you seriously trying to take credit for my pre-thread D0 games now?
>>578613737you can stop playing the victim when you constantly condescend to everyone despite being a shitter. you just shat on practice mod users because they threaten your ego. we all know what you are.
>>578613840I don't think they're any weirder than in DS1. You can still dodge them the same as in >>578581625 , they just force you to be more careful and to actually consider the way you avoid attacks. I think the reason people hate it is because they're too used to rolling every move without considering their position. Vertical slash? Roll forward. Horizontal slash? Roll forward. Thrust? Roll forward? AoE attack? Roll forward. With it, you have to either strafe it or to roll to the side early enough which is a nice chance of pace in my opinion.
>>578613982Its like trying to win a chess match with a horse. You can do your +3.0 clear material and positional advantage moves but its gonna knock the pieces off the board and eat it.
>>578613715>>578614078>legendary zorb shifty manta run that ended on night 1that sure was something, zorban pinged an invader swamp at lv3
creasy are you intentionally trying to be a worse poster than dos
the thread is very greasy today
>>578614103>before I started posting about the game in the threadafter randos have been playing the game for months. the point is you had a way easier start but still lag behind, so you're in no position to downplay anyone else in erg.
>>578614049>>578610637Goddamn that’s fucking cute…
>>578614198https://youtu.be/NJimdKAzLXU?t=3808found it
>>578613967Oh good for Sludge. But he also apologized to me the other day for the loss, after falling to ED Maris at least 5 times, according to the rescue history >>578230340If everyone can intuit the game using unfamiliar character like you said earlier, then why couldn't Sludge intuit Maris's lasers with Scholar?
>no relics shitter constantly posting dodge videos in practice mode>irony is he does no damage and doesn’t have to dodge 99% of things because he attracts zero aggro
another pointless wyldalit webm
>>578614751I won't waste 25+ minutes just to spend at most 1 minute showing off three moves, xis. You're free to keep seething though.
>>578614564>rollingminus izzat. minus izzat. minus izzat. minus izzat.
>>578614107I didn't shit on practice mod users. I shit on people who aren't humble enough to realize that the experienced they gained using a mod is different than the experience a player gains strictly from playing the game. You hold non mod users to the standard of a mod user. And act like an arrogant prick. If you're not doing all of that, then I have no qualms with you. Like I said, I would respect you if you just admitted you took a short cut and were humble about it.
>>578614564his basic combos are unsafe. even if you wait till he does 4 moves he can still end his final move with a feint or backflip.
>>578614645My point is they’re shit and you’re backing it up yet they were able to play suboptimal stuff on the password and get streaks higher than you. Also why the fuck is he playing scholar vs Maris on a nightmare team
>>578614921>feintI'm not sure which move that is.>backflipYou can strafe that one on reaction.
>>578614134Rolling to the side was always the strategy in DS1. And it's how I always dodged it in DS1. Yet in Nightreign, the same strategy is far less consistent. But I already went over this with another anon. Please don't make me repeat myself. Read the earlier posts
>>578614932Sludge resorting to griefing after getting their 100 streak
>>578614921>backflip.You might be talking about the one he does when you're behind him or to his sides, my bad. That one is rollable on reaction but you have to be very careful. Plus, the webm assumes you'll be in front of him so I didn't consider that.
>>578615064>>578614973dodging it isn't the issue, if you punish a move it literally comes out so fast it'll hit you while you're in lag
>>578614358Oh please Randos fucking sucked when I started playing. Sure, I got the occassional good player here and there. But who didn't? The likes of Terr, and Practice are way better than the rest of the password. You guys may have gotten in earlier, but they learned the game 10x faster than you. They still carried your asses.
didn't greasy also start playing nightreign after the beastclaw meta hit randoms?
>>578614921that's not part of the combo, you can punish the third hit and react to the fourth>>578614870>I didn't shit on practice mod users>>578596303>Modding to get good is cheating. Play the game in its entirely like the rest of us
>>578615008I don't agree that it's any less consistent. I wish I still had the hitbox toggle dll file so I could check the hitboxes in each game to prove if there's a real difference. The tracking definitely feels the same as in DS1.>>578615125It's not if you punish early enough. If you're not the target you should have plenty of time to punish and if you are the target and you ended up behind him after a closeup combo chain then you must've done something wrong.>>578615258>react to the fourthThere is no fourth attack in his DS1 combo chains.
>>578615258Creasy will go through every hoop and loop to justify that if he can't do it, nobody else can.
>>578615412creasy would say "I dislike chocolate ice cream" and then claim he never said he doesn't like chocolate ice cream because dislike is different from doesn't like
>>578615381there's no fourth combo attack in nr either. the fourth attack is separate from the combo and you always have time to punish the third and react to the next move.>>578615172however bad you think they are, they were worse on launch and at each content drop. cope all you want about carries, most of the thread cleared things day 1 and got better than you in much less time and with fewer resources. you're an obnoxious shitter.
The reality of nightreign is that you don’t need to learn how to dodge to get good, you need to learn how to handle aggro, pace revive moments and learn the patterns and you will be “better” than a player who knows how to dodge and punish openings
>>578614932And my point is that you said EVERYONE can intuit better than me. And while you belittle Sludge, you still imply that he is better than me. So he should be able to intuit like you said But he couldn't. And in a game with 47 rescues, I'm credited with 22 of them. Not only was day 3 a disaster, but day 1 and 2 were as well. We almost wiped multiple times, and I pulled us back multiple time. It's safe to say I was pulling the most weight that game.And this isn't a knock against sludge. But I'm just putting into perspective that the abilities you claim everyone has, aren't evident in real games. Sludge is better than you give him credit for. So the fact that I have a lower streak than him, I don't feel all that bad about. There are games where I can keep up with, or even exceed the performance of an 80 streak player.
>>578615172Practice isn’t better than most of the password, he just has autism and can play the same build on the same boring broken character 1000 times in a row. He also has the advantage of every average player following him since he seed checks so he can mitigate the problems that nightmare lobbies have of an average player thinking they’re better than the above average players and splitting. Nightreign has a skill ceiling and once you reach that the only thing that can make your runs more consistent is you leading the impact of mitigating factors through either being seen as a route leader or duoing.
>>578615786>>578615786>>578615786
>>578615209I got the game December 30th>>578615258Do you see how in that post, I examplify a person who acts smugly after he learns through the mod. And expects everyone else to know what he knows? If that's not you, then don't take it personally.But of course, it is you, isn't it? :)
>>578615381>I don't agree that it's any less consistent. I wish I still had the hitbox toggle dll file so I could check the hitboxes in each game to prove if there's a real difference. The tracking definitely feels the same as in DS1.It might be a hit box issue. It might be something else. I can think of a few possibilities.Like perhaps Artorias's hit box is the same, but the player's hit box is different. If the player's hibox extends below the feet even a slight bit more than it used to, that could explain it.
>>578615609If sludge was playing seriously I imagine you would’ve won. Thats probably the difference you don’t notice, you’re patting yourself on the back on the back for a loss while they would’ve won if they were in your position.
>>578615553>however bad you think they are, they were worse on launch and at each content drop. cope all you want about carries, most of the thread cleared things day 1 and got better than you in much less time and with fewer resources. you're an obnoxious shitter.You can believe all that, and it still wouldn't change the fact that at my current skill level, I'm still better than many used to be back in February
>>578615727This post is dripping in so much envy its nauseating.
>>578616114But you said that he's goo enough to make an 80 streak with meme builds. You also said that everyone can intuit boss timing with unfamiliar characters. Now you're changing things and making excuses for his failure. If he was as good as you say everyone on the password was, he wouldn't have fell as many times as he did.When is the last time any of you guys had to deal with 47 falls in a single game?Not 15Not 20Not 30Not 40But 47 falls.
>>578616398lol true. I started to read it and realized it was the same envious talking point against Practice repeated for the thousandth time, and just skipped it.
>>578616398No actual argument means it’s true though
>>578616000>If the player's hibox extends below the feet even a slight bit more than it used to, that could explain it.I think that's true for characters like Raider or Guardian who are larger than other player model. However, nothing is stopping you from strafing the flips regardless of which character you use.
>>578617109The guide says that you need to surge sprint to the side to avoid the initial flip. Now you're saying I can simply strafe. Are you sure about that?Nobody stafes the flips in any of the videos from DS1.
>>578617424Sprinting around it is also an option.>Nobody strafes the flips in any of the videos from DS1.Because rolling is easier and more intuitive to the average player.
>>578618103Insane, but I guess I'll try it next time. Looks promising.It's also insane that you continued to move into while he didnthe follow up. Slowing the video down, I can see why he didn't hit you there. But it's just crazy to think you can walk into the swishing motion of his sword and come out unscathed.
>>57861664250+ revive games were regular occurrences when DoN dropped.
>>578618492It's not impossible to get hit by it.
>>578619635I bet. And I bet the losses were regular occurances too.
I think one of the cool parts about nr is a run with three really good players at max efficiency pales in comparison to the fun of a hastily assembled ragtag group of shitters barely scraping by the final day at level 13
>>578620634wrongtriple melee with the boys smashing their faces at everything is way more fun than a team with a zdps bird and a floorhugging recluse
>>578620730seems like we have differing opinions my man. Should we sperg about it the entire time in the new bread
>>578620792only if it sleeps into the thread after it too!disasterkino can be fun, I can respect that
>>578614794>execuck meltykino
>>578612980You could have picked a less *eddit analogy…
>>578613795Too obvious >>578613952>>578613997You have to admit the damage control is immaculate this time
creasy you’re about to dethrone terrtroon for biggest annoyance in this general abandon this path you walk
Unfortunate thread
>>578622315>>578622780>>578623135>>578623347stfu schizo
>>578623509Unfortunate life
>>578623882Eat shit terrjeet
>>578624584you first
>>578616779Sounds optimistic.
>>578624864He's right thougheverbeit.
>>578624857>>578548242
>>578613840lets not pretend that wasnt yourself
