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CAW CAW EDITION

Ravencraft has been released!
Unreal Azeroth has launched in an early alpha state on Emberveil
Ascension content timeline for CoA and S10: https://ascension.gg/en/timeline
Blizzard's RICO lawsuit against Ascension is ongoing: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/73480810/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-derek-s-powell/

>Released Servers
Ravencraft - https://ravencraft.io (OG Turtle code)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Vanilla+, Classless, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (PVE, Legion)
OctoWow - https://octowow.st (Turtle WoW clone, Vanilla+)
Capybara - https://capycraft.io (Chinese Turtle Wow clone, Vanilla+)
Faebright - https://www.faebright.online (TBC on WotLK client, RP-PvE)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com (WotLK)
Gilneas - https://gilneas.whitemane.gg/en (Cataclysm)
Maelstrom - https://maelstrom.millenium-servers.com (WotLK client, Vanilla-WotLK progressive)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en (PVE, WotLK progressive)
Vanilla+ - https://vanillaplus.org (Vanilla+, PVP)
Triumvirate-WoW - https://triumvirate-wow.com (WotLK funserver)
Kronos V - https://www.kronos-wow.com (Vanilla PVP)
Emberveil - https://emberveil.org (Vanilla+ UE5)

>Upcoming Servers
Everwood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ZEbEcpcvE [Embed] [Open] (Turtle+)
Frostmourne - https://frostmourne.whitemane.gg/en (WotLK+) - September 9th
Duskhaven - https://duskhaven.net
Wallcraft - https://www.wallcraft.org (Vanilla+)

>Active Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<Yotsuba> - Ravencraft, Medivh, Crossfaction
<gulag> - Tauri Evermoon Alliance
<World Peace> - Ascension CoA Vol'Jin, /join DESU
<Branded> - OctoWow, N'Zoth, Crossfaction

>Mods, Tutorials, Singleplayer, Links, and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/xG3yU0yx

>Previous Thread
>>578519369
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>>578568713
that's me. why is branded on the guild list? why am i the only one posting fresh screenshots?
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>>578568451
I have only seen two Felsworn tanks in anything above mythic 5
In both scenarios they would get 2 tapped by bosses until people got frustrated and quit
I do not play Felsworn but from the outside looking in it doesn't look good
That said, Dutch vibebalances all the time so if his stupid data sniffing metrics tell him that not enough people are successful at Felsworn tank, I'm sure it'll get buffed
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What classes does <Yotsuba> need?
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>>578568713
this thread is almost as dead as the server
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Bugs that Octo has that Raven doesn't
>missing quests
>hunters not being able to attack after switching targets/leaving melee range
>loot not being lootable
>lack of upward swimming animation and requiring you to jump instead
>talents and class abilities not scaling properly
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>>578569402
>>lack of upward swimming animation and requiring you to jump instead
thats not a bug, thats vanilla
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>>578569402
>lack of upward swimming animation and requiring you to jump instead
But Octo does have an upward swimming animation. Why would you lie about that?
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>>578569487
No it isn't, retard.
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now that we cleared up that both cocktopussy and rabiesWoW are vibecoded what do we think about Everwood?
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>>578569350
good
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>>578569612
Lol nigger, I have two 60s on octo. They don't have this. You have to jump or physically angle your camera upwards to actually swim up. You can't just hold space.
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>>578568713
BASED RAVEN GODS GET BOTH GENERALS
TOTAL RAVENATION

RAVEN NATION!!!!!

CAW CAW CAW
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Elaynna is a sweet angel !
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Frostmovrne chads... we finally are going home...
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>>578569029
Top 25 for phase has 2 felsworn tanks in it if it means anything
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VMBVRVVIL Soldiering on!
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>>578570181
Literally just aim your character upwards, the other thing is a 22-year-old Vanilla issue you retard.
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Hey guys, listen to this one.
Why did the Octo cross the road?
To get to the EoS on the other side!
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space to swim?
I just press NumPad and alt tab
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>>578569102
Mage/lock
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Ravencraft new player Guide
https://rentry.org/ravencraft
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>>578570323
Wrong. Doesn't exist in classic or on raven. L octurd.
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>>578570514
>classic
You are beyond retarded.
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>>578570587
>official game ran by the company who made it
I accept your concession, jeet.
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>calling vanilla "classic"
not even the same client
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>>578570698
classic is not the same as vanilla retard
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>>578570698
Classic is not nor will it ever be Vanilla.
>jeet
The only streetshitter here is you, tranny.
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>>578570816
>>578570828
>>578570761
>erm akshually this game isn't classic because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it doesn't have spell batching or other retarded things, okay?
Octotroons truly are brown.
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>>578570942
Have you posted any proof of the AIslop yet? You're clearly the same retard who made that claim.
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>>578570698
Please don't ever try and pretend like you've proven a point when you equate fucking classic to vanilla. Rather embarrassing if I do say so myself.
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>>578569029
Felsworn tank was extremely broken first week of release
As in, no reason at all to bring any other tanks, and did more dps than the other 2 felsworn specs
The class design was broken, you have a tank that gains armor and resistances from AP, that can dual wield, and your abilities all scale off weapon damage, AND you healed for 100% of the dmg done if it crit, or 20% normally
So you have a tank thats doing more damage than anyone else and healing more than anyone else
After the first week their main ability Carve was nerfed by 90%
90% less damage done, flat
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>>578571165
Explain how classic isn't vanilla without sounds schizophrenic.
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it was the same swimming shit on turtle, why are people lying
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I am in an unknown forest . I need a cheese/fish/bread vendore FAST.
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>>578571543
It's one Raventranny who's trying to stir shit up.
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>>578570698
>>578570942
Embarrassing.
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Does Ravencraft have a good furry community?
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gee mister could it be that vanilla was 32 bit while classic is 64 bit
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>>578571692
Yeah, these octojeets are quite embarrassing. Not a single one of you animals has even posted proof you even got to 60 on the server. And if Octo wasn't currently shitting itself for the 500th time this week, I'd do it myself
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the classic client is just the retail client, thats why it doesnt run like ass and has modern addons
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>ermmm ackchyually *pushes up glasses* classic is not synonymous with vanilla
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>>578571293
It's an entirely different client for starters and feels totally different to play. Classic is 64bit with a bunch of new integrations and vanilla is 32. Classic has the graphical updates as well, and spell-batching, layering, plus a ton of "features" and changes added to it like trading boss items between players with the 2 hour timer. There's probably a bunch of other architectural changes that I can't remember off the top of my head.
People used to call vanilla classic before it was re-released but the naming convention has changed altogether. When you say classic today, people will always think of the re-release.
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>>578571967
>actually playing troondle or any of its clones
Beyond embarrassing.
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>>578572089
>it's different because it lacks the shitty technical limitation jank
Are these niggas serious?
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>log into ravencraft
>see only 300 online
>disconnect and go back to octo with 3000 online
yup its gaming time
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>>578572167
>still playing worlo worcraft
actually fucking cringe
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>>578568021
Everything here seems correct to me
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>>578572089
retail addons worked on the classic client, because it was built on the same architecture as the retail one
they fixed the swimming as well
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>arrive into agartha
>see only 300 population
>leave and go back to india with 1500000 population
yup its gaming time
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>>578572249
>lying like this
Octroon has 234 max players rn, whilst raven has 550+ on top of running better.
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>>578572249
Actually, octo is being cucked by ddos waves right now so there's 0 online
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>>578572397
*shitting time
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>>578572274
>saved from being cringe due no good servers
Phew that was close. Thanks current shitty pserver scene!
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>>578572397
I hate how you are right but you've put in the gayest way possible.
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>>578571967
They're talking about you and it's being ddosed afaik. Calling someone a jeet because you claim something is ai generated without proving it makes you look retarded.
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>>578572397
300 cannot reproduce without inbreeding which will lead to eventual extinction
alter your numbers a bit slavnegro
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>shenna returns
>the main rival servers gets ddosed
yeah, not suspicious at all.
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>>578572568
I'm not your AI boogeyman, queer. I don't know if Octo has AI code or not, nor do I care. All I know is that I've actually played on both servers and know that Raven is actually 1.18.1 while Octo isn't.
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>>578568713
I just wanna say after about a month of playing there, Chromiecraft is a joke.
>Can't quest because half of them are bugged
>Can't PvP because there is none (unless you want to do Wintergrasp as the opposing fucking faction)
>Can't farm mats because they nerfed ore nodes and herb nodes only give 1 herb 90% of the time
>Can't farm mobs because they drop fuck all
>Can't buy any cool gear because the economy is dead
>Can't even watch drama because literally half of the players are AFK in Dalaran
But hey, "NICE COMMUNITY" if you want to sit in Stormwind cybering with Slavic troons all fucking night. My God.
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>>578572249
>go back to octo with 3000 online
That hasn't been the case for about six hours now thanks to a DDOS attack.
>Tfw I just want to go into a dungeon
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>>578572397
>mixing ad populum and the necessary sensible pop for a MMO
And that's why, despite literally being Aryan, you belong to India and not Agartha.
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>>578572073
>bots
>goldselling
>streamers
>layers
>zugzug meta
>anti social community
>broken economy
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>suddenly population is all that matters
Yoooo Warmane top dick server bros???
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>>578572073
Correct.
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>>578572806
wait for frostmourne if you want wotlk
last one had 5k+ players
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>>578572806
played there during late tbc it was full of tranny cliques, you couldn't tell a dad joke without someone getting offended
>>578573018
ironically it stood the test of time, faking numbers works
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>>578572210
>>it's different because it lacks the shitty technical limitation jank
Yes. That's like saying a ford anglia drives the same as a fiesta. You're not too bright I'm guessing.
>>578572373
Some of the addons do but you're ignoring every other change that I listed that affected the world, connectivity, and the overall gameplay and feel of the game; like spell-batching. The addons themselves were updated over time, even when classic released.
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>>578572806
>>Can't farm mats because they nerfed ore nodes and herb nodes only give 1 herb 90% of the time
Wait really? One of the coolest things of CC was the bugged spawns.
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>>578573185
>That's like saying a ford anglia drives the same as a fiesta.
No, it's more like saying a steak isn't a steak because one is more cooked than the other, retard.
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>Americans talking about WoW clients : "imagine a steak"
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>>578573371
Like a rib eye or what are we talking about?
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Yes, we Americans like steaks, not tacos, Pablo.
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>>578573287
Ravencraft is steak, octroon is impossible meat aka lab grown and fake.
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>>578572806
>there's a server of hot slavic mommies hungry for cock
holy shit why didn't you guys tell me earlier, rolling there right nyaow!!
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>jeet can't even understand why two different clients are a different thing
No wonder why AI is taking their jobs, lol
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>>578573371
third worlders seething they can't afford beef
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just went and made an account for ravencraft, my AVG antivirus alert me on their website saying it was trying to steal information. I went through it still only to login to a population of 100 people online. yikes population
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>>578573463
>>578573661
>eating the sacred animals
Do Americans really...
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>>578573909
>t. Skyrim Giant
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SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE BEEF NOOOOOOO VISHNU CURSE YOU
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I am gonna wait for Classic+.
If that's shit, then I will see if raven or octo is worth playing.
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Ravencraft? Rare steak with tender and nourishing meat.
Octocraft? Well-done steak past expiration date.
CoA? Ribs with ketchup.
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Cow is like mother and you americans eat
You eat your mother own too?
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Your mom didn't complain when I ate her.
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>eating a jeeta
You'll better take an STD test.
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>>578574123
Classic+ will be ruined by real money trading, bots, layering and lack GM like any other Blizzard server. It'll just be the streamer approved™ realm to play with 2 new asset flipped dungeons and 2 new asset flipped zones. tl dr come raven
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>bored of raven
>world is dead as fuck
>check TERA Classic
>mods are fighting in the discord with players
>the servers have been down for over 2 days
maybe I will play Warmane
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>>578573847
I was there too I had the president on the phone and I told him to shut it down.
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Anyone got some gold to trade away on K5?
Leveling alone is pain, gear is so scarce, and with gold I could probably buy a blue weapon or something that'd last 15 levels
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we hyped?
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>>578573847
Just uninstall the antivirus
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>spic gold beggars have infiltrated the thread
Whenever I think we've hit rock bottom we find a way to go deeper.
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>>578575073
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Why do gold beggars even exist?
It's not like no one is stopping you to get to max level
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>>578575280
*shivers*
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the shenna-trooners fear the kronos chad
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>>578575572
*covers you in SARS infected blanket*
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>24 anons online a day after guild creation
RVVEN SVMMVR
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>>578576078
wrong
it's
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bring back hornyposting
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>>578576078
only half will make it to raiding
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>>578576078
is that vanilla 1.12 1x rates?
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>>578576396
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM SO FUCKING HORNY AND LONELY
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>>578576465
it's vanilla with 10 new dungeons, 11 new zones, 3 new raids and more stuff, 1.7x rate
https://rentry.org/ravencraft
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>>578576396
I need fat draemommy ass on my face.
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>Not only did Ravencraft launch with a chinese shop and link to Cappy wow. Their client even has Cappy hardcoded in the GlueStrings.lua
>"SELECT_CHARACTER = "选择角色";
>SELECT_RACE = "选择您的种族";
>SERVER_ALERT_BUTTON_TEXT = "更多信息";
>SERVER_ALERT_TITLE = "系统公告";
>SERVER_ALERT_URL = "https://capycraft.io/alert_cn_7272.html";
>SERVER_DOWN = "服务器无法连接";
>SERVER_SELECTION = "服务器选择";
>SKILLLINES = "技能线路";
>SOUL_SHARD = "灵魂碎片 %d";"
RAVEN IS CAPY
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>>578577096
uhhhhhhhhh ravendoodoos?
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>>578571261
They never addressed the spec's issues after that?
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>>578577096
listen dude I have been pretending to be retarded and shill Raven for 18 hours straight without any sleep just to get some raven coins
don't you fucking dare to mess it for me, you hear?
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>>578577096
Why did they have the farewell consume vendor at launch? Why could I play by simply editing the realmlist.wtf of my old turtlewow? Is it all a setup? Do we need to learn Chinese and reroll on Capywow? I don't know on which foot to dance anymore...
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So which specs are the most mobile in CoA
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You can check right now https://vik1ngfile.site/f/OjSl0jGjTd download GlueStrings.lua and look at it. This download link is straight from the ravencraft website.
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>>578577442
>Why could I play by simply editing the realmlist.wtf of my old turtlewow? I
you could do the same for capy
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>>578577096
Raven xisters... this is not a good look for us
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>>578577442
You could also play on capy server with the original turtle client. Idk about the consume vendor.
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>>578576078
Lapdogs! All of you
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>>578577724
>fw no femworg lapdog gf
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Is it gabgab ddosing octo?
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>>578578190
yes I am
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So Ravencraft is just Capybara devs making an EU server? They say this file exists in Capy client that you download from their website. Can anyone who downloaded a fresh Raven client from their website confirm?
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so which scenario holds water in the case of Raven?
>1. Rogue Chink tries his own luck to milk the clueless gweilos
>2.Shennazoid and her crew are back
>3. someone bought the whole thing from Capy and released it as his own
>4. wildcard
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>>578577096
>capy was made by chinese turtle staff
>the english staff receive some help in their rebranding and hosting a proper 1.18.1
this is bad how?
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uh oh capy b- I mean raven bros
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Wouldn't capy being behind this proof that raven is ex-turtle staff THOUGH
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>>578578428
You can just download the file directly from their download link, on the first mirror on their website you can download file one by one and not the whole zip.
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44 minutes left to free up the Elafi name on Ravencraft Medivh realm or I kill the hostages.
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>>578578983
please don't kill your aging parents anon
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>>578578983
How much are you willing to pay for it?
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>>578578983
can you stop crashing the server under the map please
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>>578576675
Calm down Elafi.
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>>578579063
1 gold, mail.
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>>578578720
Or proof they paid Capy for the code
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>>578578983
Elafi is my wowgf that cucks me with dogs
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Kill all lgbts, chinks, and jeets!
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I bet Elafi is weak to anal.
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>>578579192
Or proof they have the server code but were so lazy they didn't bother removing the farewell consume vendor and didn't bother finding a clean client and reused capy one.
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There isn't even a Chinese Learning General on 4chan, I can't do it man
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>>578578720
Capybara didn’t have any devs. It was a Chinese GM.
This means they aren’t the devs. They are either people hired by Capybara to run an English server, or people who somehow obtained the code from Capybara.
This makes sense because Capy had the farewell vendors up too.
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THE SLEEPER AWAKES
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ffffffucking pleaseeeee PLAP meeeeee…
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>>578580163
Raidar...
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Hey where did World Peace’s raids go?
>>578580124
Oh I guess they’re all too busy on a Chinese server to raid.
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>>578579721
Also explains why they couldn't restore EU characters.
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>>578580124
God I wish I could do WC on Octo right now.
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>>578580124
Come back to CoA now
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>we could be doing ascended mc right now but wailing caverns on a chinkslop turtle clone is more important
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>>578580736
yes
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>>578572737
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>>578580736
We're all playing with Elaynna because she's the best! Should have let her stay in worldpiss, otherwise we'd be there instead! Sorry! (Not sorry!)
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>>578580432
>>578580582
>>578580736
i'm too washed up for coa
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>>578580736
No one gives a fuck about Slopscension when it's about to go the way of the Dodo.
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>>578580432
coa is so fucking boring im tired of retail
raven is actually comfy and feels like im playing wow again

yay another mythic+
yay another hyper keyboard rotation for ascended where your finger hurts after raiding
yay another energy spender combo class with dashes and immunities and whatever the fuck

when everything feels so bloated content wise it has the reverse impact and feels boring and simple

classic wow has such a high skill ceiling despite being more simple mechanically that the complexity is so much stronger on a server like ravencraft and allows for players of high skill to truly shine instead of just the player that spends the most money on gold like some RMT faggot
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>>578580736
“Yes!”
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>>578578717
so that's where they got their 1.18.
So long as they keep RMT off the server, it will be fiiiiiine. right?
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Musky tauren cocks...
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>>578581406
Aecheur...
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>>578581406
Yes please.
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>>578578625
It means the server has zero chance of getting new content in the future, these are not devs.
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>>578581563
Yeben...
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>>578581224
>classic wow has such a high skill ceiling
y-yeah!
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>we are former turtle wow contributors
>it's the chink staff
Well I guess they weren't lying!
Enjoy your shop lootboxes.
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So my choices are either rolling on AI vibecoded troondle or chinsectoid troondle
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>>578582101
>AI vibecoded
Proof please.
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>>578582101
yes
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>>578582025
Nobody in China worked on 1.18 so they did lie.
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>>578582347
there are bugs, simple as
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>>578582347
It's common knowledge. Proof that it's not?
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Too many chuds on raven... I don't think I can tolerate this for long...
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ERP bait in Yotsuba is dangerously low, is this even a 4chan guild?
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>>578582498
You have an IQ of 70 then.
>>578582635
Burden of proof, retard.
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>>578581263
At this point one of following is true:
>it is directly owned by Capy creators, means server will same shithole with bots and RMT as Capybara is
>they stole code from Capybara. But really bad at dev'ing, so server will be a buggy shithole due to devs not being to able to fix anything properly

Considering that Octowow DDOS started on next day after Ravencraft release. And how aggressively ravencraft creators shill themself literally everywhere, I think it's the same Capy(asian) devs.
Buying DDOS in China much more accessible then in EU/US and their aggressiveness really looks how Chinese "darknet" people prefer to do things.
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Why is bro going to bat so hard for Octo? Server is ran by a bunch of Big Brother faggot GMs and the server itself is unstable as fuck.
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New octojeet cope dropped?
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>>578582804
Our ERP choices
>Gay tauren
>Gay orcs
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>>578583020
>>578583035
See
>>578578717
>>578578428
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>>578583165
Literally doesn't mean anything considering it's just stolen from Turtle to begin with.
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>>578583165
Ok you come play on CapyWoW then?
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>>578579352
based anime
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>>578582804
Try being a sexy child because that's the only thing the pedophiles in that guild are attracted to.
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who do i whispaaaaa for an invite on waven? im just a wittle babyyyy i need a guildie wuildie!!!
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Alright, it's been 2 months since Voljin first launched...

>Are you playing Ascension
>What server? (CoA or Seasonal Freepick or Seasonal Draft)
>Opinions?
>>Population
>>Playstyle
>>Content
>Would you recommend the server to others to play with you?
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i just want proof of something either way. accusations are stressful just lemme play turtle or don't.
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>>578583869
/who g-"Zug Zug"
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>>578577357
That would require a human being with creativity to apply their design muscles to the task. The best Dutch can do here is vibebalancing based on data sniffing AI's hallucinations.
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>>578579352
Based anime extremist
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I went outside for the first time in a few months today. God's green Earth is truly beautiful, WoW's nature areas really don't do it justice.
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>>578584630
i don't fucking give a fuck
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>>578585041
I pity you. It's like we're not even living on the same beautiful planet.
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Turtle got owned
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ravencraft.
you join yotsuba.
now.
VVe VVill Raid.
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>>578584630
i've been driving out of the city and running for 2-3 hours daily while waiting for frostmourne
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>>578584923
>indonesia
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!!!!
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i hate that half of world peace is leveling on fucking ravencraft right now dont any of you have loyalty? so annoying
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>>578585371
2shy sorry
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>>578585484
you can't force people to stay if they dont enjoy the server
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>>578585371
You'll raid alright, raid the panty drawer of some fucking camp for 5 year olds I bet. Fucking pedophiles make me sick.
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Braunuas
Basedschizo
Bundyy
Chaden
Hadrianus
Gullrock
Lein
Lorellai
Luzen
Nword
Repfarm
Sudusius
Tchort
Yiffe
Worgenfuta
Zukaa

I BID YOU HEAR MY CALL... RETVRN TO US...
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>>578585484
FoTM -> FoTM
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rate my fit
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>>578587093
This nigga lookin' ZESTY, this nigga lookin' MOIST, he's got sugar in his tank, he's light on his feet, he's a Ill bit fruity, he plays for the other team, he dances at the other end of the ballroom, this nigga theatrical, this nigga good with colors, this nigga gonna coordinate yo curtains wit you cushions and that shit gonna look good! This nigga lifts shirts, this nigga on the down low, this nigga be a tollet trader, this nigga gardens uphill, this nigga packs fudge, he's a friend of Dorothy, he feels the love that dare not speak Its name, he loves to dance, he's of the Uranian brotherhood, he indulges in the French vice, he has an antipathic sexual Instinct, he's fluent in Polari, he's a refugee from Sodom, he's on the wrong bus, he bats for the other team, he's temperamental, he's 'one of if you catch my drift.
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>>578587093
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>>578587093
does this nigga deserve ceremonial leather loincloth?
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>>578587093
Would be less gay without that chestpiece.
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>>578587093
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The Ravencraft server routes to Capybara. Ravencraft is Capybara West.
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>>578587735
do you not see the pants he chose
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>>578587892
I did, and the chestpiece is still the gayest thing.
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>>578580736
blame uffie
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>>578587995
>michelada makes nonsensical decisions for the sake of pearl
>makes the people keeping gchat alive quit
>world peace turns into a raidlog guild
just mb2 stuff, happened before raven dropped
justice for p
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Blizzard won
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>>578588343
Why you keep saying michelada, you didn't even play on mb2, and what decisions, kicking Elaynna?
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My new persona is fitting into the guild nicely. All according to plan.
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isnt michelada the blonde femboy from elden ring
why does this guy keep talking about that in a wow general
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>>578588559
Splitting the raids only to merge them. The times being fucky even when the raids were split. Loot being handled in batshit retarded ways. Yelling at people who tried to help during raids. Not attempting Ascended at all.
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>>578585782
ya im here what up
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>>578588987
>Splitting the raids only to merge them.
Raids are 25-player max, and we had more than 25; the alternative was to bench people.
>The times being fucky even when the raids were split.
9PM EDT is 6PM PDT which was used once for midweek raids because we believed their lockouts were 3 days (i.e. you can do them twice a week). We moved them 2 hours earlier on Sundays once someone mentioned that it was too late.
>Loot being handled in batshit retarded ways.
Need for MS, Greed for OS, pass otherwise was batshit retarded?
>Yelling at people who tried to help during raids.
Never happened, and asking Theo to please let Grok explain strats isn't yelling, yet a few schizos tried to make a big fuss of it in the thread.
>Not attempting Ascended at all.
We wanted to bring as many anons as possible to raids, and that meant doing heroic raiding at first.

So what truly bothers you?
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>You don't raid
>Well okay you raid but you do nothing *but* raid
Jealous spergs will always find a reason to shit on you
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>um raiding doesnt count on ascension its retail slop so unless you are doing hardest difficulty with nonmeta classes it doesnt matter
>um raiding doesnt count on octo or raven because its solved slop vanilla has been out for decades and all the encounters are simple
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>>578591080
yeah?
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>>578591080
Correct.
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There are so many disgusting racists in Yotsuba. Faggot this, goyim that, go fuck yourselves.
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>>578589858
The way the raids were split was stupid because you wound up with uneven forces. A better leader could have distributed players better. Then you jam them back together but there’s no cohesion.
The times were ass. No poll asking people what times people wanted led to a lot of people getting fucked.
Loot was mishandled. People rolled MS on OS. Shit wound up in the hands of people who didn’t need it over those who could use it. Nobody bothered to check any of the rolls to see who should really be rolling for what.
Theo got yelled at both in the raid and in this thread.
Not attempting Ascended gave us nothing to shoot for and caused people to quit because we weren’t doing worthwhile content and never would.
I have valid complaints and you can’t dismiss them. Uffie and the leadership in World Peace dropped the ball because they cared more about their ERP butt buddies or whatever.
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>>578572073
where does it say that it is
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>new server pops up
>immediately tries to get groomed into being a chasers playground
>its just a copy paste server from a chinese client
>there are less than 500 players on launch
>its already dying
>even the most popular private servers have only a couple thousand players at best
cant believe it
blizzard wonned
they killed pservers to 2012 levels
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>>578591557
This
I stole so much gear I can't even wear from their raids it's crazy, it really helped that the few that were paying attention never cared about me somehow
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>>578591919
When I realized after the first raid what people were doing I just rolled on whatever. Half the shit I never used.
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>people quit because we'd never be doing worthwhile content
>those people that quit are the shit third worlders bragging about ninja looting gear
>we are now clearing worthwhile content because the dead weight left on their own
Pretty based leadership to be honest, didn't have to really do anything and the raid group fixed itself.
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>>578591557
>we weren’t doing worthwhile content and never would.
nigga we just finished up mythic and started doing ascended raids what do you want?
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I am a hero.
If I get really into it, I am THE hero.
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>>578591557
I'm not dismissing them, I'm addressing them and telling you they're bullshit, which is different

The split was done based on timezones because that's the issue during midweek raids, and it was just convenient to keep that split going Sundays because it meant that people who wanted to gear alts (and many have alts) could bring them to the NA raid
Loot was handled as any casual guild would handle it, because for sure we weren't going to do EPGP or Loot Council when we were just starting out; we were seeing how things played out to adjust accordingly
Theo didn't get yelled in the raid, and today a guide he posted during Basalthane ASC progression and helped us a lot. That someone in the raid started shit on the thread is a shame, but I'm not surprised.
And we looked forward to Mythic raiding, which we did yesterday and it was a lot of fun. It was the natural progression from heroic; heroic -> mythic -> ascended (maaaaybe).

>because they cared more about their ERP butt buddies or whatever.
And this is where your real complaint lies. It's about some idiotic ERP drama, isn't?
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You don't see any of this kind of petty drama in <Yotsuba> on Ravencraft. Just sayin'
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They muted me on Ass-censorcion just because I made fun of the United States of America!
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>>578592548
The dogfucker is back in the guild as Duskleaf
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>>578592339
We never started Ascended and never will.
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>>578592548
You don't see it on CoA too, it's just retards trolling each other and a few schizos on the thread.
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i have two sides
nicest person youll ever meet in game
craziest psycho to exist in the thread
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>>578592713
We just started tonight, close call on basalthane but we were too retarded to realize we had a sneaky 3rd tank and a few others that really shouldn't have been there. I hope Grok and Uffie can do the needful next week.
I wonder what the goalpost is gonna be once we clear ascended too.
It's like people get jealous that we actually have decent people for once
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>>578592982
Sneaky 3rd? Don't you mean 4th?
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World Peace is going to start checking gear and enchants and I just know I'm going to get benched I didn't pick an OP class I hate this amount of anxiety I just know I'm not going to get to play anymore this is the worst I've tried so hard in these raids but it's not enough it'll never be enough I don't want to be benched please I've done so much for this guild please
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>>578592539
Calling them “bullshit” is dismissing them. You’re splitting hairs.
No one was ever consulted on the days or times and as a result they were inconvenient for a lot of people. You aren’t addressing this.
Loot should have been handled better because too many people took shit they didn’t need. You aren’t addressing this.
Theo got his shit pushed in and you going “nuh uh” doesn’t change this. He wasn’t the only one who got screamed at in raids. You aren’t addressing this.
Ascended won’t happen. We’ve lost too many people and too many key people.
Trying to make my valid complaints “ERP drama” won’t make them magically go away.
You fucked up. You had the biggest anon guild since forever and you squandered it because you’re a fucking bozo. I sit here and tell you exactly what you did wrong and you try to attack me claiming it is ERP drama? Fuck you retard. I’m glad I quit this garbage ass guild.
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>>578593102
holy schizo
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>>578593102
Theo shut the fuck up nobody cares
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>>578592548
Well when you're already grooming children any other bad or inconsiderate actions one of you takes else would just seem inconsequential and not worth arguing over
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>>578593178
Grinning Dog…
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>>578593178
Are those shoulders even obtainable in game?
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>>578593102
>too many key people
Such as? You? All the top DPS are still playing
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>>578591546
Fine, you've convinced me. I'm going in for RVVVN VVTVMN
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>>578593102
Stop being mad about getting kicked, it's not healthy to obsess over fat balding men on the internet.
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Just about ready to hop into first expansion zones. TBC ain't ready for this BBC.
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>>578593295
All the top DPS quit, you're left with the shitty B tier DPS lmao don't kid yourselves
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>>578593085
i dont have a meta class either but i think i keep up good enough. my spot should be safe...
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>do poor dps because i'm still in mythic dungeon gear
>not a single living soul plays outside of raid times so can't gear up through mythic+
>when they finally raid, gear is hoarded by the same people every time
>get benched
nothing I could do
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>>578593102
all the instant seethe from the wp trannies proves this is a TRVTH NVKE
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>>578584271
I think the spec is unironically well designed and just needs number tweaks
CoA doesn't have the most unique takes on tank specs though, sure
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>>578593556
you just got clique'd
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>>578593085
>I just know I'm going to get benched I didn't pick an OP class
It has nothing to do with that man, I don't think they'd bench people who are doing their best on their preferred class.
But that nigga was tank, didn't say shit and when asked to go dps he said he doesn't play offspec and decided to leave instead, you think we should've just kept him as tank that did fuckall? When you play a 3rd+ string tank you should know that you are expected to go DPS in fights where extra tanks aren't warranted.
As long as you come prepared and contribute to the raid why would anyone bench you? It's not THAT hard that we need to hyperoptimize the comp or anything, it never is. But you still need people in the proper roles or the fight gets extra hard for no reason.
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>>578593414
who was top dps
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>>578593656
Spoof and he was forced out by poor leadership
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>>578593556
What are you suggesting something CRAZY like maybe, we shouldnt give out heroic raid gear to people when its their first raid, and maybe if a person has been coming to every single raid, maybe they should have priority on an item over some random normie fuck who joined the guild 30 MINUTES BEFORE BOSSES (this has happened every single time world peace has raided) SO THEN YOU DONT GEAR PEOPLE WHO'LL JUST QUIT 2 DAYS AFTER
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Is any of this ascended cliqueing and benching and kvetching even happening? Idk I just raidlogged for mythic, we did our best, and that was that. I don't even think we have enough raiders now that we'd need to seriously consider a "bench" now.
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Personal loot is the best change thats ever been made to wow and I wish more private servers implemented it.
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>>578593852
No, someone from the guild is really mad and making shit up for some reason though
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>>578593840
>maybe they should have priority on an item over some random normie fuck who joined the guild 30 MINUTES BEFORE BOSSES
Honestly this part is a bit infuriating, they come in with no gear at all, no consumables, no preparation, bodied half the time and greedily slurp up all the loot we could use, then they fuck off into the sunset...
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>>578593852
If anything the thread is underselling it. I've had multiple people whispering me after raid in tears over how they're being treated by the inner circle.
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>>578593840
Thanks for the gear, really helped with my mythic and ascended raids the last weekends.
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>>578593852
Ascended isn’t happening so no.
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half the guild is not going to farm up the fire res needed lol 15m ascended at best
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>>578593840
>>578593998
>joins while world boss raids are happening
>asks for invite
>come to raid in greens and blues
>get to roll need on gear
hehe thankies!!!
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>>578593102
TRVTH NVKE
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>being this mad about not winning all of your 10 rolls of the night
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>>578594404
try harder man that bait is weak
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>>578594549
I am sorry that you lost gear to someone who joined the guild after you I guess? They should in fact kiss your feet for being allowed into the same instance as you, those disgusting freeloaders.
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I never get why /wpsg/ guilds have so little respect for the gear that drops that they hand out loot worse than pugs do. Even a pug raid would stop and say “it doesn’t make sense to give this shield to DPS when our tanks need it.” Even a pug would say “hey that guy is in full greens he can’t come to the raid and gear up over others who have put time into gearing up.” I don’t understand why /wpsg/ raids are run worse than pugs.
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>show up to raid
>consume
>do good dps
>win 0 items because Nooby who came in greens rolled need on every item and won every single one
>when nooby is geared enough he just quits
>repeat for every raid with the guild
>end up quitting because after 2 months of raiding you have yet to get a single item
theres a reason guilds use sr +1, people will just leave when it becomes obvious you're not progressing
whats the point of coming to raid when I know I'm not gonna get shit
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>>578594706
>>578594943
It's been over a month and you're complaining about this now, on the thread, instead of talking to the guild officers? Something else must have happened
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>>578594652
Someone who joined ten seconds ago in greens should only be given loot if nobody else needs it. Quit being a dumb fuck.
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>>578595098
I reached out to them first to talk about this and was ignored.
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>>578592548
you dont see anyone on ravencraft more like lmao
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So, RavenCraft is confirmed to be made by the CapyCraft (TurtleWoW CN administrators), not the English team (Torta, Bowser, Akalix, and others).

The English team is focused on making a new MMORPG, just like they said before, and I'm glad they fully committed to it.
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Is Octowow still being DDOSed by Ravencraft?
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>>578593292
That model and skin combo are unobtainable
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>>578595387
Source?
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>>578595387
So Raven is the chinks western server? No wonder they keep shilling it here
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they are coming into the raid to gear up.
>b-but that ring gives me an extra 2 AP
yeah and it gives them an extra 90 AP so they can perform in the raid
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>>578594943
If you really did good dps the guild leadership would intervene
Sounds like a skill issue bud
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>>578595682
The officers don't care unless it affects someone from their clique
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Never do Ragefire Chasm with <Yotsuba> inner clique. They cropped me out of the end of dungeon celebration picture and stole all my refreshing spring water
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>>578595387
bros i thought raven was le white mans server
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>>578591080
Turtle classes were all buffed to a ridiculous degree
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Do people forget that raids are for gearing up? Why would you get full prebis when you will replace 1-2 pieces or more per raid? Prebis only makes sense when raids aren't out and you are bored.
It's fucking VANILLA.
YOU CAN CLEAR VANILLA RAIDS IN QUEST GREENS.
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its true that guild leadership isnt really paying much attention to loot...i mean we had some issues when a freaking legendary dropped lol. group loot for guilds is kind of retarded but whenever someone has ML they just sit at the boss rolling out crap...has no one played wow before? you grab the loot and keep it moving and roll it out later. even dad raiders do this
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>grok
literally brown
>coa guild
10 people left raidlogging, dead
>coa
going to close soon
>ravenmeme
DoA
>octowow
cringe and broken
no where to really play
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Turtle Molten Core and Blackwing lair were all buffed to a ridiculous degree too
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>>578596050
>i mean we had some issues when a freaking legendary dropped
this happens to every anon guild when a legendary drops though
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>>578596071
octos fine just laggy rn
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>>578596071
ravencraft to play with us, dance or die nigga
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>>578596050
>group loot for guilds is kind of retarded
Just means your guild is low trust and low test.
Every dad guild I have been in just used group loot. They are high trust guilds for people who just wanna have fun.
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>>578596249
not playing on a tranilla server that has 500 people on LAUNCH
there wont be enough people left for an ubrs run next month
>>578596224
>octos fine
it has the same bugs as troondle and even more on top of. at least the dead memevencraft actually fixes shit
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>>578596050
Didn't the CoA guild GM literally ninja Hand of Sulfurus? Lmao.
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For ravencraft to actually get more players it has to actually put out more content.
Without that it's just a less popular octowow.
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>>578595989
weakus baitus
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>>578596570 (me)
By this I meant NEW content. I don't think any of the 3-5k people are moving from octo otherwise.
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>>578596420
>at least the dead memevencraft actually fixes shit
like what? octo has fixed shit turtle deemed unfixable for years
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>>578596556
Yes he did. He pressured the winner into handing it over to him.
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So why is raven so much more popular here than Octo was specifically? Way more anons playing raven than octo ever got.
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I'm new here, so what's the point of playing on ravenscraft instead of going to octowow ? Aren't most players there
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capy has put out 0 content unless you count adding more to their real money shop
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>>578593102
No, calling them "bullshit" means I'm calling them "bullshit", i.e. that they're baseless or based on lies

>No one was ever consulted on the days or times and as a result they were inconvenient for a lot of people.
Correct, because if we wanted to do World Bosses on Sunday, if they had a 3-day lockout, Wednesday would've been a good day to do them too. 8PM UTC+1 is the usual time for raids in /vg/ guilds because it's noon in the West coast and it's still a decent time for anyone east of the EU (albeit late).
>Loot should have been handled better because too many people took shit they didn’t need.
If there were so many instances of these loot issues, you're free to provide some examples. Despite what the thread may lead you to believe, most anons are honest and keep their fellow guildies in mind when rolling for gear. Besides, during the first weeks you want to see how these things play out, and CoA isn't a server where loot is scarce anyways, sure you noticed.
>Theo got his shit pushed in and you going “nuh uh” doesn’t change this.
By the guild? not really, and in the thread, again, some shitposters are hungry for drama, even to the point of fabricating it if needed.
>He wasn’t the only one who got screamed at in raids.
Didn't happen.
>Ascended won’t happen.
You forgot to type "screenshot this".

And I'm sure you would know this if we ever talked ingame instead of you playing tough anonymously (lol), but the guild wasn't never meant to be an Ascended raiding guild, but just a place for anons to play together. Something about the game being more than just about loot and retarded boss fights.

Even so, at this pace we may end clearing MC Ascended and then Onyxia next week, it seems.
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>>578596962
>>578596981
people here rolled on coa instead of octo
then they got tired of coa and fell for the fresh meme
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>>578597026
Not him but calling something a lie is dismissing the claim which is weird because everything he said rings true
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>>578596962
octo issues
1. moderation, putting account at risk by saying nigger in guild chat
2. octo is on turtle 1.17.2 and is reverse engeneering the 1.18.1 content (moonwhisper coast, timbermaw hold), raven has the 1.18.1 build already ready
3. bugs caused by point number 2
4. low trust sentiment toward their team
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>>578597026
>based on lies
>Correct
Dude you didn’t think that through did you?
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>>578597298
1 and 4 arent true though
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>>578596921
and people are just okay with that? no one said anything? is everyone in that shit guild a braindead cuckold?
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>>578597384
well yeah, they willingly play ascension
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>>578597384
It caused a couple people to quit but the remaining crew is so cucked beyond caring
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>>578597376
1: wasn't there a screenshot of someone getting banned for saying wigger or something a few threads ago
4: their launcher triggers your antivirus like crazy, I'd describe that as a source of a low trust sentiment
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>>578596921
>>578597384
>>578597646
amazing theatrical performance
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>capy bad because you have to play with chinese players!
>raven bad because its capys server without chinese!
pick one octroons
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>>578596981
Try both and make an opinion for yourself anon! check which one seems to work best, read the statements from both the ravencraft staff and octowow staff on their respective discord and website, do your due diligence anon, no one will give you the correct answer
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>>578597373
Baseless OR based on lies.
We initially did polls which eventually landed us on the 8PM UTC+1 time, but at some point you just have to accept that no time will be good for everyone, and just accept that the usual 7-8-9 PM UTC+1 time that's been used previously in /vg/ guilds would have to make do, regardless of whether 100% of the raiders could make it or not.
The whole point of having a split was to make it more convenient as I said. If someone could raid at neither time, well, what else can we do?
And I don't know what's a "lot" of people, forgot to point that one out.
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>>578597925
Nigger I dont play your dogshit meme server, im asking question from what ive seen in the thread. People are whining that your gm stole hand of sulfuras, what fucking "performance" are you schizoing on about
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>>578596981
I want to do complete Timbermaw Hold one day and I don't trust Octowow and I don't trust them with it in any shape or form
>I'm new here
https://rentry.org/ravencraft
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>>578597730
idk but i use an offensive name on purpose because i wanted a namechange, sent a ticket in asking if "it would be a problem?" and they said "only if enough people report it"
and turtle launcher did the same, its because of the github dlls
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>>578598189
>baseless
>based on lies
>Correct
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>>578598134
>chinese devs
>chinese devs
what am i picking between
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>>578596962
I came back here to check if people were shilling ravencraft and im not surprised. Let me guess it's a based white mans server and Octowow is for trannies or something.

>>578596994
Yeah i played on Capy for a bit with the translator add on but it seems like they just want to add mounts and are not interested or capable of adding anything else. Octo kinda surprised me with extended the quest log and new challenges. it's a decent start.
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>>578598134
Capy is bad because the chinks running it are corrupt and don’t ban for RMT or botting. They’re running Raven the same way, which is worse because they also lied about being devs.
If Capy had just come out and said “we are making an English server” it’d still be run by corrupt greedy retards but at least they wouldn’t be dishonest corrupt greedy retards.
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>>578598268
>People are whining that your gm stole hand of sulfuras
name them
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>>578598268
you're mentally ill for following loot drama on a 4chan thread from a guild you're not even in, your brain was fried by reality TV or something
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>>578598303
tldr: an anon that plays a class that doesnt use sulfuras won the roll then held it hostage for idk 20-30 mins making up random BS because no one knows what classes do what. the person that actually won the roll already logged out at that point. grok (gleefully, i assume) kept it for himself after the first anon said he was trolling(?)
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>>578598134
>Trusting a chink
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>>578598591
Why give it to him in the first place?
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>>578598365
>Let me guess it's a based white mans server and Octowow is for trannies or something.
Yes
<Branded> - OctoWow, N'Zoth, Crossfaction
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>>578598483
They know western players won't want to play on a chinese run server, just like they know westerners are funny about Ai and accused Octo of being Ai slop in their announcement.
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>>578597742
gwitwm
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>>578587093
t.
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>>578598678
like its been said no one rly paying attention or knows what classes use what. and the person lied about it being good for him. sorry i mean he was just trolling!
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>/v/ and /vg/ in 2025 - Epoch is a based white mans server, we must play on that instead of Turtle
>Epoch in reality

Y'all got to stop picking shitty servers because you get banned for spamming nigger in /world.
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Are there any fun spellcaster specs in CoA? So far I have tried runemaster, bloodmage, felsworn, and chrono but didn't like any of them
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>>578599119
>>578598678
oh and i think it was on group loot
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>>578599193
Woops
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Yotsuba has zero(0) loot drama.


Curious.
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>>578599453
>Yotsuba has zero(0) loot
yeah
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>>578599453
>Yotsuba has zero loot
Fixed
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Yotsuba has zero(0) loot, lol
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>>578596962
Octo has literal malware in their files, for one.
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>>578599520
>tech illiterate
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>>578599453
>Yotsuba has zero loot
There is some environmental storytelling on this post >>578576078
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>>578598315
I meant correct in the sense that ultimately we decided the definitive raiding times without yet-another-poll and just decided on something convenient for most for the reasons I mentioned.
But if it makes you happier, yes, you got me, I should've proofread it before posting.
Ultimately times were handled as best as they could have been for a EU/NA guild where we *had* to have two raid groups.
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Im not attending world peace raids until uffie is demoted, with Raven being good I really don't care.
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>>578599592
Cope more, fag. Ravencraft’s client isn’t setting off my windows protector.
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>>578599906
>windows protector
jej
is that how deepl translated it for you, chang?
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>>578593556
>do poor dps because i'm still in mythic dungeon gear
you do poor dps because you suck at your class
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Imagine being the first human male a draenei ever sees
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I want all of us to be friends, play the best version of World of Warcraft together, and have lots of merry fun and loot drama
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>>578600124
Elaynna! OUT!
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>>578600124
i think they'd be thoroughly unimpressed
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if only raven spent as much time fixing their dogshit code as they did shilling their server, it might actually be usable
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>>578600137
we love dying because of server ddos'ing by angry third worlders
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>>578600259
>chink capy devs
>fixing anything that isnt adding more cashslop
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>>578600259
Think you misspelled octo.
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>>578600137
43%
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So, memes aside, what is the actual server to play on right now? Haven't played WoW in like a year.
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>>578598703
>Femboyheals
>Skinpeeler
Of course, the absolute degeneracy.
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>>578600137
Bodied that freak
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>>578598703
Is that that nerd socks?
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>>578600905
To play with anons: ravencraft, <Yotsuba> is very active https://rentry.org/ravencraft
The real answer: try octowow, try ravencraft, learn Chinese and try capywow, and let us know what you've found
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>>578600905
Ravencraft has 14 anons online right now
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>>578601319
And overall players?
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>>578600905
Ravencraft for vanilla, Frostmourne for Wrath in 16 days.
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>>578601381
14, its an anon only server, no one else allowed
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>>578601461
I meant in the server
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>>578601546
He answered you already
14
Its a comfy pop
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Rasknitt grooms children and Arthur lets it happen.
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>>578601381
300-400 peak
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>>578600905
Tauri is the only legit server right now
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>>578601673
470, going up every day
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Classic and vanilla was synonymous before blizzard released classic
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We could have been playing on Octowow you fucking faggots.
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is ai slop porn of lore characters / people's characters cool yet or is it still cringe?
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>>578602282
Nah it's gay
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>>578602250
Octo had its chance. Unfortunately, tranny GMs ruined it.
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When is the next turtle clone dropping?
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>>578602397
Tomorrow drops CephalopodWoW
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>>578596981
Octo
>Rebuilt from version 1.17.1 leak. They have mostly rebuilt it faster than anyone thought but yes there is some bugs here and there. They tend to squash a good amount of bugs at least once a week.
>Devs try to be anonymous to avoid Blizzard's wrath in the future. They don't use Discord and have servers in Iceland due to the privacy laws there (something like that)
>They seem to have at least some form of competence when it comes to development. The quest log has been extended to 25, cross realm BG's are about to be implemented and new leveling challenges have been added. They added a new Octopus pet too for beta testers.
>Devs have done multiple Q/A's. They seem to be reasonable in their future roadmap, admitting adding a new raid right now will be difficult and they will work up to it by adding new dungeons and zones first. A new dungeon (in caverns of time most likely) and zone are being worked on right now.
>Has a Hardcore only realm. If you die on the HC realm you can transfer to the PVE or PVP realm by walking through the dark portal.
>They haven't been in much of a rush to add new payment options (they say it's low prio) and nothing new has been added to the shop
>Some minor GM drama when getting involved with guild loot once or twice but they have been active and helpful overall.
>A radio channel with a DJ just like Turtle.
>Multiboxing and boosting are disallowed, overall stricter than Turtle. You can't get a level 60 Mage to help you cheese a leveling challenge anymore by tagging everything while the Mage nukes the mobs. You have to do say Vagrant challenge properly.
>They did an in game event during the beta where they turned everyone into zerglings and had a platforming game to win 200 donation points.
>You will probably get banned for saying the N word. No politics and naughty words are allowed just like Turtle.
>RMT and Botting get banned on the regular. Devs want to name and shame players on in game chat like Epoch did.
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almost 50 anons in yotsuba... raven summer is here...
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>>578596981
Octo GMs will mute/ban you if you disrespect heckin trannies in world chat.
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>>578602769
Capy/Raven
>Straight up the last 1.18.1 build, so less bugs than Octo and probably more accurate scripting.
>The team is a maintenance crew that ran the Chinese/SEA Turtle server. Unknown if there is any developers on that team who know how to add new content and large changes to 1.12. The tools for 1.12 are tricky to use and are not in Mandarin, they would likely need to outsource it to westerners.
>No new content or notable changes have been added to Capy since launch. Only mounts imported from retail for the in game shop have been added
>They did make a few mistakes such as leaving the vendors up with free flasks (both for capy and raven launch) and letting the PVP vendors have the updated PVP gear (BWL tier gear) for a fresh launch.
>The team may be known about due to subpoenas or the Turtle EU team giving everything up to Blizzard. Netease may go after them in the future especially when Blizzard launches Classic+ in China.
>Team is pretty quiet. They released a road map and release some minor bug fix patches around once a month. Most of their announcements is focus on events that relate to the in game shop.
>Generally chill about multiboxing and boosting.
>Some drama related to some players having GM powers in battlegrounds. A flag carrier in WSG has been recorded being teleported by an enemy player.
>Bans for mentioning Octo WoW or Raven's connection to Capy. No bans for politics or N words.
>RMT and Botting are more common on Capy. There is still bans for it but they don't seem to be violently strict about it. RMT is generally not seen as an issue in Chinese gaming culture.
>Promise of Grim Batol on roadmap is questionable. The raid never had a single boss fight worked on and the WMO for it was scrapped and planned to be reworked (Old WMO was somewhat reused for Dragonmaw). No other future content talked about.
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>>578598703
Imagine just wanting to do some dungeon and you get paired up with a fag named Femboyheals. You’re just trying to play the game and he’s furiously masturbating while healing you and coming up with all these scenarios in his head. You try to be nice and say good heals at the end of the dungeon and he blows his load because his parents never loved him. I don’t know why freaks have to ruin video games with all this weird sex shit but it’s gross and if I see someone with a questionable name or wearing a slutmog I am not doing a dungeon with that pervert.
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>>578602250
Tranny server
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>>578600137
>couldn’t even make it to 20
lmao why so bad at the game?
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>>578602769
>They have mostly rebuilt it faster than anyone thought
They are just yoinking shit from the open source project
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>>578602250
Why? we have the real turtle now
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>>578603447
Nah Octo added some content back faster than snapjaw did.
It didn't really matter in the end who had the best scrapped data for recreation since they could both base it off of Capybara.
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>>578602769
I have never seen so many lies in one post.
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>>578604048
I played both Capy and Octo. This is pretty much what i gathered.
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>>578603283
Shut the fuck up you retarded nigger. You're a leech who will latch himself onto whatever can give you that dopamine hit, that is pixels in a video game for children.
Doesn't matter if that healer is a actual celibate priest irl or some gooned out tranny. You do as you're told, as long as you get your dog treat in the end.
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>>578604170
t. Ranny
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>>578604170
damn that post really got to you
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>>578604307
Casira??
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>>578604165
>You can't get a level 60 Mage to help you cheese a leveling challenge anymore by tagging everything while the Mage nukes the mobs.
this was never allowed on turtle you have no clue what you are talking about
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>>578576078
>Facesitting
Based
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>>578604307
rip my nigga
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>>578604457
Originally it was "Faceshitting" but GMs hate fun
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>>578604401
They let you get away with it generally as long as you didn't have PVP enabled. I believe not long before shut down they got stricter with boosting and nerfed slow and steady exp in dungeon among other things. Many of my guildies cheesed challenges and alt leveling events (with the mount rewards) by boosting. I actually think in my guild i was the only one doing the alt event solo because i wanted to see a lot of the custom quests they added.
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>>578604307
Bodied that flaggot
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>>578603930
Yay, class change 2, trannys, and getting lied to.
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>>578604564
If you got caught you got banned, exactly the same on octo, only difference is that octo has a lower pop so its easier to track.
I have reported and got someone banned on turtle for that.
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>>578603195
If the chat is full of politics and people saying nigger it will not last. It scares the normies, who after all are the majority of people playing. Also that rmt and botting stuff is grim.
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i just feel honored that my grave is being visited
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>>578604843
>It scares the normies
No, it doesn't. Games only get more popular if extreme shit talking is allowed.
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>>578604691
They didnt ban people for boosting challenges and hardcore.
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>>578604691
*if
High prio was to ban people boosting with PVP on, boosting without PVP flag was rarely banned. They only got strict with it towards the end because they knew people were boosting for free 200 donation points.
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>>578604401
It was outside warmode and hardcore. You could duo box sns or any challenge other than warmode or hardcore and it was within the rules on Turtle Wow. On Octo they made it way less able to cheese challenges especially sns as they made the xp penalty apply to all sources so no more bg warmode spam.
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>>578604843
Normies do not play this shit. That's insane.
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>turtle became strict on boosters shortly before shutdown

Complete faggot. They chabged the rules to be more lax on boosting and multiboxing.
They allowed you to multibox dungeons and raids.
God damn that server was cancer as fuck
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>>578605037
Octo changed how well the BG exp scaled, i think Capy has it the same as 1.181.?

I really wasn't a fan of the BG spam being so overpowered. It was clearly an oversight by the devs since they were being rushed before the shut down (pic related) why add moonwhisper coast for level 50's if level 50-59 BG spam was 10x faster?
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>>578605037
>>578605015
>>578604969
Wrong, assisting or multiboxing any character involved in ANY challenge was not allowed and got you banned
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all you classictroons boomers are fucking pathetic kek
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>>578605330
This is completely untrue.
There was drama on Tel'Abim because the first hardcores to 60 were boosted in the area where the high elf city alliance zone overlapped with EPL.
Thats why they fixed that area to be pvp enabled.
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>>578604958
I don't believe so, and more when the main taget audience are turtle refugees. Time will tell, I don't mind to be proven wrong.
>>578605048
Maybe normies wasn't the right word.
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>>578605571
you couldn't pick hardcore on TA though
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>>578605330
I had a 60 mage with T3.5 and the tel'abim gorilla from the 2023 evet. Im telling you they never banned my ass for boosting countless people with challenges on. I only ever got warned once when i helped someone with war mode on and they told me just don't do it again.

The most i ever got in trouble for was making a JK rowling trans joke on world chat, not boosting.
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>>578605651
They did enable hardcore and it was great because you could hide behind the trees in duskwood and instant cast on them.
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>>578605707
So you admit you got warned for violating the rule but claim that the rule doesnt apply because it isnt guaranteed that they will catch you?
How is that different from octo?
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>open laptop
>leave characters in starter zones
>turn on macro recorder
>record a jump macro
>set it to 4 minutes and a half
>leave it on while i use my main computer, sleep, and do other shit
>day later get a bunch of reward
easy peasy japanesey
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>>578605958
Octo said they will ban for it, Bowser and co were always going back and fourth with that shit from what i remember.
If Octo was the same as Turtle there wouldn't have been backlash to their boosting announcement. There was crying on the forums and le reddit about it.
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>>578606032
>half the server is doing the same cutting down the active users to only 50 players
grim.
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>>578604307
Should've been me
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>>578605635
>I don't believe so
LoL is one of the most popular games on the planet and has an infamous playerbase. MW2 lobbies are still talked about to this day. Even retoilet wow has regular shitposting about politics in trade chat.
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>>578605330
This isn't true. Assisting hardcores wouldn't get you banned. Assisting in PVP was only bannable if it was crossfaction. Don't be retarded.
Two-boxing hardcore or warmode characters would catch you a ban. But Turtle Wow let you babysit your friend's hardcore character. It's a part of why the challenges on Turtle Wow were a joke.
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god i miss being unemployed so fucking much man
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>>578606187
Not as big of a joke as the defiant "we're not shutting down" announcement when a rico claim was made against them
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>>578606115
I looked around the starting areas before logging off the characters and yeah pretty much everyone is openly doing it. Even Mulgore had at least ten. One was retardedly spamming the sit/stand key right where player character spawn in which is so insane. It's against the rules to use the macro programs but given Raven is run by Chinese obviously they don't give a fuck about that rule and I got away doing it with 10 different characters on 10 different accounts but at least I hid my characters. Also lol they didn't ban me for ten-boxxing.
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>>578606082
So it wasnt allowed on turtle, thank you.
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>>578576078
>LITERALLY twice more members than <world peace> on their raid night
coa is over isnt it?
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https://web.archive.org/web/20260629064350/https://turtlecraft.gg/rules
>Characters participating in the Hardcore challenge are forbidden from being boosted by players outside their group, even for free. This rule does not forbid one-off “natural” encounters, rather it bans a continual and intentional alleviation of the challenge.
You could help hardcore characters as a non-hardcore but you couldn't boost them.
That was the only challenge like that by the way. You could boost a SnS or warmode character for free.
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>>578603283
>you when seeing your healer is named femboyheals:
impotent rage spergout seethepost about FREAKS ruining muh vidya nononoooo
>me when seeing my healer is named femboyheals
/pet
simple as
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>>578607269
>me when seeing my healer is named femboyheals
I kick him out of the party. I don't give a fuck what you do you fucking faggot.
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>me when I see my healer is femboyqtpie
Disgusting faggot.
>me when I see my healer is knottygirl
Fvark that’s so hot and based!
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>>578602227
tf u mean "every day" lmao it's gone down since launch yesterday
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>>578600905
octo for vanilla+, 3-4k pop
you could roll on raven to play with anons just be aware that it's doa chinaslop that wont last a month
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>>578603283
bro fantasised up an entire elaborate sex scenario
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>>578607813
>3-4k
Octojeets can’t stop lying.
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I hope Raveb stays sub-1000 so Octo tanks the next DMCa and I get to quest in peace.
In other news I ran the new Alliance equivalent of RFC yesterday. It looks good and it's a step up from their older dungeons but it's a lot of work for a bunch of green drops.
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>>578600905
tauri for new wow, octo for tranilla, everythng else right now is a meme or on its death bed
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0-1: Chrono
2-3: Infernal
4-5: Tinker
6-7: Pyro
8-9: Uninstall
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>>578608123
sperging out over something that you can verify yourself seems a little stupid
enjoy your dead chinkserver
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>>578608330
Unlike you, I actually played on Octo. It peaks at 2k.
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>>578608401
it did some weeks ago yeah now its over 3k
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>>578602769
>Multiboxing and boosting are disallowed, overall stricter than Turtle
Really? I need to start reporting these fags then.
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So when is octo gonna release a fresh server?

Shit is already stale people already in fully kitted 60s.
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>>578608650
We're all waiting for chicken-wow
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>>578608123
>>578608401
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>>578608832
All those supposed players and yet the open world is still dead as fuck and no one runs dungeons under lvl60. Curious.
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>>578608947
whats the point of lying about stuff that can so easily be looked up
just enjoy your chinkserver before it dies in a month, you dont need to get all defensive about it
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>>578608947
Why are you making shit up? Izzat coded post, anything to win.
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>octotroons seething
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>>578609171
>>578609186
Wdym lying? I have two fucking 60s on Octo. Every single dungeon I made a group before that was over lvl20 took a minimum of 40 minutes to find a full group, if at all. I had to skip so many dungeons because no one could be bothered. Even at 60, getting groups is a pain in the ass unless you’re doing UBRS.
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>>578609554
>wdym lying
you said that the open world is dead, and that no one runs dungeons level 60. both of which were proven wrong, and it's 8 in the morning rn lol
you should go back to calling people brown and kissing chink feet, that's what you're good at
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>>578608650
>he doesn't play LynxWoW
ngmi
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>>578608832
how about you post a screenshot from today, dishonest bitch
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>>578609697
>8 in the morning rn
How is the weather in Berlin Ahmed?
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Corecraft will save us
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>>578609697
The world is dead and groups barely exist for dungeons, yes. I just moonwhispsr coast last week and saw maybe three or four other people in the entire time I was there.
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>>578609827
okay

>>578610026
see >>578609171
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>>578609554
Okay, I agree that it takes some time to find dungeons, but usually you end up finding a group. Shouldn't be surprising on a 2-3k server when this already happened to me on Turtle with higher numbers. Now open world dead? I disagree, I find people in the usual questing spots all the time.
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Dungeons will definitely fill on the <200 pop server though, trust.
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Raven is the real turtle and isnt run by chinks, youre delusional if you think people will stay on the jury-rigged octo when they can have the real thing instead.
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>>578610242
still more alive than the CoA guild lmao
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>>578602769
>minor GM drama
nigger they had one guy giving out items and another guy colluding with a top guild/banning rivals. that's pserver-killing type shit. i told them this (and got instabanned from darktranny's discord lol) but they are so drunk off the 3k number that they don't think the party can ever stop.

the instability issues they had today really made them eat humble pie as well. really anyone still playing octo over raven is a fucking retard, through and through, ravenchads will be raiding K40 by the time you tards have a semi-working claude scrape BWL.
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Felsworn is bad now, right? I think it's finally time to level one
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>>578610850
so true bro, capywow that's fixed 0 bugs and released 0 new content and made 0 class changes since may, but added new stuff to their cash shop monthly, will definitely deliver quality
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>>578608947
on octowow the multibox rules are flexible, you can make infinity accounts logged on at once as long as they dont leave a capitol city. i have a 60 and yeah, 45 minute queues for a DPS was the norm (and that's for a gigaspammed dungeon like BM). BG of the day was usually instant if it was a decent one, AV queue about 20ish ally side, the rest forget it
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>>578611395
The thing that gives me pause about the OctoWoW pop figures is that they push them so damn much.
>hello fren why should i play on octo?
>BECAUSE 5 EXTRA QUESTS THAT DONT WORK AND 3K POP!!
>but how stable is the server
>BRO BUT 3K JEETS BRO!!!
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>AIEEEE I AM GOING TO GET BENCHED I CAN'T NINJA LOOT WHILE DOING DOGSHIT DPS
Just grind your gear nigga, most of Mythic/Ascended gear is barely better than M10. We don't care about your class as long as you try. If you aren't into the Mythic grind, the server's just not for you. Try the doa "Arthur tries to be thread sweetheart 2: Electric Boogaloo" clique.
>ALL THE TOP DPS QUIT
The retards who lucked into picking OP classes and parsetrannied despite not helping guildies with gearing up and raidlogged until Raven released? Yeah. Too bad they were not able to get the spotlight during the CoA-arc. Half of them were from Pearl/Xalara/Robyn's clique anyways.
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>>578611695
>hello fren why should i play on octo?
>its not chinese server ran by crogge and shenna
shrimple as that
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>>578611765
Why did you ninja the Ragnaros legendary, Grok?
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>>578611173
Slayer and Tyrant are shit in pve and pvp
Infernal is somewhat okay
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>>578611765
Robyn is sweetheart don't bully this faggot he's not Sylma
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>>578611395
>dpstard
>whinging about 45 minute queues
Fucking lmao. You roaches deserve 2h queues.
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>>578611984
The guy who won it begged someone to take the Eye because he realized how much it would cost to craft the mace and he wanted to keep his spot as a /wpsg/ microcelebrity
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My grindbot i coded is still going strong on raven in the high teens. erm no moderation? based?
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for me it's pochie 2
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>>578615061
BASED
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>amerimutt hours are over
>schizo shitposting in the threat stops
hmm?
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>/raven/ died before hitting 200 replies
Why?
>>578445502
I thought this was the big new anon server!
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>>578613062
Couldn't he ask his guild for help? Evil helped Theo because he couldn't figure out how to make it.
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Stopping to think about it, the fact that I and others were able to macro bot jumping in place for 20 hours without a single ban is a huge indictment on Ravencraft. I almost want to see how far I can get away with shit without getting banned. Maybe use cheat engine to runspeed hack and such.
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<Yotsuba> is already overrun by troons, I'm quitting.
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>guild created by a tranny chaser is full of trannies
no...
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>>578616238
no one in <world peace> is actually playing the game, its 10 people left that only login to raidlog, no one would help him
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>>578610850
>really anyone still playing octo over raven is a fucking retard, through and through, ravenchads will be raiding K40 by the time you tards have a semi-working claude scrape BWL.
Saying shit like this really makes me not want to give merit to your opinion.

I don't know why some of you people can't talk like normal human beings.
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>>578617240
>I don't know why some of you people can't talk like normal human beings.
A non-insignificant portion of this thread is diagnosed with autism.
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>>578616134
even shitty server like Bronzebeard got something like 10 threads to bump limit, Raven is doa that's why don't let the 24 online during weekend in Yotsuba fool you
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i used afk macros in coa too..what pserver bans for that??
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Should I ... ?
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I'm just not playing octo and I got bored of CoA's bingbing wahoo.
It's that shrimple.
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>>578579352
trvke
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>>578617629
There were damn near 300 /epog/ threads as well with some of them hitting nearly 1k replies. /bbc+/ was wildly popular too. Just insane that /raven/ got zero traction.
I'm looking at the thread now and see someone copied some of my replies from this thread and posted them over there.
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>>578601418
>>578602212
>>578608160
Tauri it is. Will check out Frostmourne when it releases too.
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Yeben and Basedgodx need to intervention Aecheur and get him off his tranny addiction. He's not a bad looking young man and could easily pick up a slightly below average looking biofem.
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Legion defeated, game's over
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>>578618197
>Just insane that /raven/ got zero traction.
Octo and Capy has been out for months, people played, established their characters, levelled & geared them, made guilds, made friends, raided etc. etc.
There was no space for Ravencraft to fill other than "It's the original turtle devs!!!", which, nobody cared about, and may not be entirely true from how it links to Capy and shit. Did you really believe the 4 faggots that shat up the thread with their retarded shill posts for the last week?
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>>578618262
ask someone in the guild to run you through some dungeons or get your heirlooms, leveling is pretty much a non-issue in legion anyway, its pretty fast
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>>578618775
>chromie
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>>578619178
not in the game, also shit server
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>>578617846
>The only reference to play recent expansions
>Firestorm has been the reference for recent expansions since 2015
this reads like I'm having a stroke
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>>578619421
chromie is the best server out there, tranny
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uhuh
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>>578610850
>the instability issues they had today really made them eat humble pie as well

That's a really funny way to say DDOS attack from Capy.
If Capy/Raven was so great they wouldn't feel the need to pay Indonesians to do a DDOS attack.
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>>578585371
Whats the raid size in turtle anyway?
There is no way you can gather 40anons with proper class distribution, who is going to put on the dress?
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>>578620417
Nani!? But just yesterday, Octo-sama claimed DDOS attacks never happen to pservers!
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>>578620435
Dynamic raid size
Onyxia Lair | Scaling from 40 -> 20 players
Molten Core | Scaling from 40 -> 20 players
Emerald Sanctum | Scaling from 40 -> 30 players
Blackwing Lair | Scaling from 40 -> 20 players
Ahn'Qiraj | Scaling from 40 -> 20 players
Timbermaw Hold | 20 players
Naxxramas | Scaling from 40 -> 30 players
Upper Karazhan | Scaling from 40 -> 35 players
Yotsuba will be fine if Ravencraft grows by the time naxx releases in 10 months, but its drama for another day
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Terasisters... they are pulling a Pochie...
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Emberbrothers... they are pulling a Tera...
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The loot drama seems a bit manufactured as I haven't seen many instances in game of anyone complaining about loot. I've done lots of Mythic+ so I've only gotten like two or three pieces total from raiding but that's just kind of how this server is.
The fun and enjoyment is from playing video games with a bunch of my friends, it's not like I only show up to raid to get loot. That would be kind of weird.
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>No for real, it was the DDOSers! The hackermens wanted to make sure we couldn't play the Worlds of Warcraft!
>This is far more believable than our pajeet backend just couldn't handle going live actually
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>new chinese server targeted towards english speaking playerbase goes live
>every server suddenly getting DDOS
yep, I'm nooticing
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>>578621532
noticing the smell of the shitting street reaching your window?
good job
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>>578621270
>Naxxramas | Scaling from 40 -> 30 players
>Upper Karazhan | Scaling from 40 -> 35 players
At that point, why even bother?
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>>578621401
3K players running fine until chinks release an english server.
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Why can’t the chinks just launch their shitty bootleg aliexpress servers without having to ddos good servers?
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>Nooo you have to play on octo!!!
>T-They are the victims!
I hope you stay there :)
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having way more fun playing ravencraft than I ever did playing ascension

why is that? it's so much simpler but there's a kind of magic to it where it just feels more fun
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>>578621270
Yotsuba won’t be able to clear Naxx. Evil couldn’t even muster the numbers when they lowered the scaling down to 18 before shutdown.
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>>578622001
/v/ sucks at games, it is known.
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>>578618965
It isn’t even the original Turtle devs. It’s shitty Chinese liars from Capybara. Anyone playing on their scam server is a total retard.
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>>578622001
Fuck off, at the rate Raven is growing we'll easily be able to fill two different 40 man raids.
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>>578622081
Yeah the vibecoded server is better
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>>578621270
>if Ravencraft grows by the time naxx releases in 10 months
no way u think this is possible
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Outside of Turtle has there ever been a server that grew after release? It feels like they all start with a higher population that eventually declined by a fair bit. The other way around doesn't usually happen, right?
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>>578622423
I do
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>>578622213
Even if you were able to pull World Peace numbers and get 50 anons to raid look at what happened to World Peace. It fell apart due to leadership incompetence and lost half its guild in under a month. But no you'll definitely keep it together for 10 months because you definitely learned from your mistakes oh wait no you haven't because any time people tell you what you're doing wrong and what you've done wrong you freak out and refuse to listen.
>>578622423
He's so high on copium he'll believe anything.
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>>578622673
4chan guilds are for leveling and looking for a real one after that
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>>578622213
>Fuck off, at the rate Raven is growing we'll easily be able to fill two different 40 man raids.
Wow 80 whole raiders on an entire server congratulations man
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>>578622673
What server are you playing on, anon? I'd be interested in joining a guild with good leadership
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>>578622548
literally all of them?
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>>578622757
>I'd be interested in joining a guild with good leadership
Don't join an anon guild then and you should be alright.
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>>578622548
Tauri probably
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>>578622548
Ascension began as a small server with less than 100 players because people viewed it as a "funserver" into the behemoth it is today because Youtubers farmed the fuck out of making videos around custom meme builds.
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>>578622862
Evermoon was always a rollercoaster
>1500-2000 at MoP launch
>dies down to 300 not even a month in because half of the zones were unfinished and 2 (1 super buggy) dungeons on release, no raids
>picks up to 3000 when Throne of Thunder patch drops
I am sure Raven will get a bump in player numbers once content patches start to roll out or god forbid they release some turtle content that was unfinished/cutting room material
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Many concerned anons come to me and tell me, ‘Glubshitto, I don’t understand. I want to play some good ol' Turtle WoW, but I’m seeing that you and all the other anons are not playing on the most populated server. Octowow has x6 the pop! What gives?’ Truth be told, I don’t like OctoWoW. They don’t have the throne atop the Gurubashi Arena, and I really liked that element of decoration, it's a really amazing place to relax in the open world. Sadly, I also had to brainwash every single other anon to follow me onto this realm so that I wouldn’t be alone there. Maybe they’ll add it back eventually, but the deed is done. Hope this helps.
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>playing on ravenshit
>playing on capybarfa
>playing on octowussy
Suffer not the shit servers to Turtle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMayUMZJ01c
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>>578623386
will the bots know how to stack up when the timbermaw hold hydra boss does that one icicle attack?
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>>578623434
Will anons?
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>>578623542
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>>578621289
3 days already, only managed to play for like an hour, though to be fair I haven't been constantly trying. The spirit of pochies release lives on.
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>>578623434
>>578623542
>>578623608
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>>578623386
I don't trust this Zigger with his links
>how do you know he is Zigger
his pronunciation of "HD" is "ASHDEE" is very telling, also telegram shilling
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>>578623386
I watched another video about this as well and he mentioned but glossed over the days of ironing out crashes and bugs to get it to function. I'll have to watch this later. I am curious to do it if it's not a multi week endeavor to set up.
>Don't have to deal with server outages or random updates
>No drama faggotry or guild faggotry
>No worrying about queue times
>Bots won't quit because you wiped once
>Can summon bots instantly. Anywhere on the map. To perform things you would literally never be able to do normally. Like 40 man raid a capital city or even small village.
>The other video I saw the dude even had functional PvP and a marketplace.
If you can get past the no other player part it kinda seems like heaven.
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>>578623434
>>578623542
>>578623608
KEK'd
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dont care gonna play raven with my boys and maybe fucks some dogs and groom some kids and say nigger nigger nigger in the chat
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>>578625685
pearlknitt...
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Frostie...
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>>578626368
you look inbred
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>want to level my ranger
>check bug reports
>they closed two dozen reports about that issue couple of days ago
>but people keep reporting it after wards
>test it for one (1!) second against a mob
>it's still bugged
how? ranger brigand was fine a week ago, then they changed something without telling anyone, and since then nobody can play brigand normally anymore because the broken talent was responsible for using a combo finisher after 2 attacks instead of 3 and fucking up your entire energy management, dropping your dps by 33-50%
this shit is ridiculous
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Attendance will continue to drop until uffie is demoted.
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I show up to raids because Uffie is there
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>>578622673
>It fell apart due to leadership incompetence and lost half its guild in under a month
people just lost interest in the server after a month, it was fun
same thing happens to every single anon guild
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>>578626368
this is the sort of helfie to talk about tauren cocks and shit because no helf man would ever look their way LMAO
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>>578626680
Incorrect. I've interviewed multiple people in game and they've stated the reason they've quit. The vast majority was due to incompetent leadership.
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>>578626368
Nice tits, jk, still as flat as a washboard!
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>>578626831
I am sure you did
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this is exactly why id never lead any anon guild you guys are all fucking schizos
cant even talk to anyone in game always gotta just shitpost after the fact in the thread because youre a cowardly little bitch

fuck you
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I'd take an incompetent leader over the dogfucker clique
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Uffie...
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>>578626993
Does that upset you? When you're called out for being incompetent? Keep deflecting while your guild loses even more members.
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>>578627428
fuck you pellaine
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>>578627428
I am not a guildmaster of any anon guild for a reason. Every guild has it's high point where people rush in to join and eventually lose interest.
This happens to normal guilds as well, but they can always recruit new people.
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>>578622423
Yeah, I remember when people thought Turtle would also always have a pop of only a few hundred.
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Does anyone havae the chad alliance vs mudhut horde img?
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>>578627531
>This happens to normal guilds as well, but they can always recruit new people.
ill never understand why people here care so much about shit like that
>shitpost about how the guild is dying and cant raid
>shitpost about if you recruit literally a single non-anon then the guild is meaningless and shit
you cant win
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>>578597376
Octroon jannies will comb through your whispers and guild chat to look for no-no words to ban you for. This has already happened.
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>>578626831
I quit because Elaynna wasn't allowed to join! Justice for Elaynna!!
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wpsg guilds are obsolete wpsg chat channels are the future
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>>578627673
FMC could have cleared Naxx if they didn't self impose retarded rules on themselves.
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dad guild
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>>578627927
oh no no no jewlag bros what happened??
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>>578627982
>sees agartha with 0 people
>"oh no no no, i guess i better go to india with 24 online"
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>>578627982
It's too how to play wow
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I thought Raven was going to grow exponentially...
Oh wait they waited too long and thousands of people already have sunk cost on Octo.
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>>578627662
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Even VMBVRVVIL getting DDOSed.
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>>578628060
but anon, octo has
THREE
THOUSAND
JEETS
okay? 3000 turds dropping onto the streets of Stormwind simultaneously. how do you like those apples lil ravie?
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>>578628150
>>578627982
hot* It's also too hot to think and spell as well, I fucking hate summer.
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get a fucking life gabgab

you fucking brought this upon yourself you fucking loser why are you fucking with everyone else just because no one else wants to play on shitty ass maelstrom
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>>578622548
nost
octo
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>go on TERA classic discord
>server has been down for days
>pregnant man reacts
Epoch won.
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>>578628271
huh?
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>>578625739
>pearlknitt
The puppy molester
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GGDS
gabgab derangement syndrome
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>get the annual itch to play some wow
>Official servers are still garbage
>Lurk wpsg to get the rundown on current state of servers
>The past 3 threads have LITERALLY been ENTIRELY pathetic autistic spergout slap fighting

What the fuck is wrong with you people
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I fucking love tauren pussy...
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>>578628838
>degen erpers but ironically unironic
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>>578628818
>could have just asked a question about servers
>instead contributes to the drama by shitposting more drama
nice one anon
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>>578628959
He wouldn’t have gotten real answers just faggots trying to get him to play on their shit server
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Is Cowgirl Sylma?
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>>578629097
>he wouldnt have gotten real answers
>just people answering what servers to play on
???
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GABGAB WON
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>>578628818
why dont you ask for recommendations instead of making a metapost?
>i want blizzlike
>i want changes
>i want wotlk
>i want vanilla with changes
>i want vanilla with no changes
>i want a funserver to fuck around in
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>>578629212
...my heart...
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>>578629176
Those aren’t real answers just shill responses. If I ask “which server has the lowest ping for Australians” you will answer with your shitty server despite it probably being a 500 ping for Aussies because you’re a stooge.
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>>578628959
it's how it is when it's about money
octo has hired a shitload of pajeet shills to shit up everywhere, it's exhausting
they know that they have no chance against ravencraft, and they're really, really desperate at this point
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>>578629349
thats a stupid question to ask regardless as its also reliant on your service provider. you would have to test yourself because some other aussie who isnt a poorfag may have way better ping on that server anyway
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>>578629349
>“which server has the lowest ping for Australians”
if you live in australia, you just play vanilla servers where your reaction time doesn't matter and you can use all the mods to reduce the impact
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>>578629262
I just want a good server, no cash shop, no RMT, no booting, no GDPK
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What server should I play on?
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>>578629527
RAVEN CRAFT

ITS RVVVN SVMMVR!!!
ITS RVVVN SVMMVR!!!
ITS RVVVN SVMMVR!!!
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>>578629463
>no cash shop
no such free server exists
>no RMT, no botting, no GDPK
all of them
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>>578629430
>>578629453
Terrible replies that don’t answer my question but prove my point. You can’t use this thread for info on servers because you’re all shill faggots and the worst part is you do it for free.
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>>578629570
so you didnt want a real answer anyway which proves my point
keep on shitposting anon! its more fun than youd have playing wow anyway. i agree with you, this game is trash lol
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>>578629463
If you want to play Turtlewow then
>Ravencraft
If you want to play retail then
>Tauri Legion
If you want to play WotLK then
>Brownmane sadly or wait 16days until Whitemane Frostmourne drops
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>>578629662
I want a real answer and didn’t get one.
Which server has the best ping for Aussies?
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Sometimes I forget /wpsg/ is not /lgbt/
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>>578629729
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
RAVENSISSIES??? OUR RESPONSE??
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>>578629729
erm akshually they just host the capy client on their website for no reason but its not them ok??? this is a nothing burger stop playing on OctoWoW and give your money to us instead!!!
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>>578629763
The response is cope.
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>answer my highly specific question that you can't answer without living on a shithole prison island
you are mentally ill, seek help.
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>>578629763
I don't like Octowow and I don't speak Chinese, so I'll settle for the Capy fork.
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bizarre how octobrowns have the audacity to still speak after their GMs have been caught MULTIPLE TIMES colluding with clique guilds, spawning in items and fully geared characters, and helping them kill raid bosses
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>be octojeet
>shit on the street
It stinks
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>>578629729
Capy said the same shit about Grim Batol, right?
They said it's coming lol
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My theory is simply that the capy team is behind it and they tried to hide it in case blizzard actions a lawsuit since with turtle that meant taking down the Chinese servers as well
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>>578630075
if you're going to schizopost, plz at least keep a folder of screenshot proving your point for anyone who missed the thread it happened in, because I really want to believe you but I don't think it happened
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>>578630075
You're mad because you couldn't join the clique
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What the fuck happened to bazaar tokens? They used to be like 40s a week ago, now they're over 1g. I wanted to buy a bunch to unlock all professions on my main but this is a bit too much.
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>>578630075
this never happened, but what did happen was a GM giving sulfuron ingots to some guy
both got banned because how the fuck did you get all the mats in a few weeks
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>>578630317
this happens every time, they are a currency that goes up in price as the value of gold decreases. you always want to hoard as much bazaar tokens as possible on fresh servers as its the easiest way to 10-50x your money depending on how much you buy
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Genuinely what is the goal of the octoshills? Do they think people are not gonna play on Raven which has the real 1.18.1 client with zero lag if they make some schizo lies about it? Borrowing time perhaps but the time is running out
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>>578630317
drop your nick and i'll mail you my 1k tokens when i log in later
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WHY WONT YOU ADD BRANDED TO THE OP
IT IS THE MOST ACTIVE ANON GUILD AT THE MOMENT
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>this never happened, but what did happen is it actually did happen
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>>578630527
Sunk cost fallacy
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>Yotsuba already bleeding members
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>>578630548
Not sure how real this is but my name is Zhiya
Will be getting herbalism and alchemy with those
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>>578576078
Flag....
You know I never even spoke or played with flag but his name always sticks out, kino undead.
But I'm too much of a casual l00ser to raid in WoW i'm sorry lads I can't do it I'm a free spirit I can't follow schedules I play when I want
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>>578630075
The funniest thing is that they recently retroactively gave realm first title to people who killed ragnaros in the closed beta with the help of GM
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>>578630617
This Anonymous guy is full of contradiction, we should stop listenning to him
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I will play raven to 60 and quit.
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So how are you guys running these rce exploitable clients securely, VMs? Sandboxes?
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>>578631008
I'm running it on the open source rust client, it works much better than the original one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lKhOqy0xlE
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>>578630728
don't really feel like playing coa anymore because of personal reasons so they were gonna rot in my bags anyway
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>>578631097
if he can be in a guild like that, why did he quit?
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>>578631008
this is what id post if i was retarded and didnt know how exploits work
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>>578631147
I'll gladly make use of them, then
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>RAVENCRAFT HAS CORRUPT CHINESE JANNIES AND DEVS!!!!!
Claim status: ZERO EVIDENCE
>Octroon jannies LITERALLY got caught giving their friends raid level gear
Claim status: the devs admitted this happened
WPSG Official Stance: Octroon is a dead server on its way out.
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>>578631141
>join the discord to report bugs
no thanks
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>>578631230
This is what I'd post if I was an autistic tribal retard who had no real rebuttal but wanted to shart out my opinion anyway
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>tranime poster likes ravencraft
Ok I'll go play on Octowow then
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>>578631008
I only play on trusted servers.
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>>578631298
Factual post
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>>578631298
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tranime website
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Any cute gnomes in the ravencraft guild?
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>>578631008
I do run them in a sandbox and don't see why I shouldn't, but you should know that it's mostly the 3.3.5 client that is uniquely exploitable. There have yet to be any exploits found for the 1.12 client or modern clients. There are some ways that I wouldn't classify as an exploit to run arbitrary code, though; most of those servers use custom files and launchers, making it easy to do anything there. They could also serve an update directly from the WoW client which could contain malware, but it should be quite obvious if their client is trying to update. If you do run the 3.3.5 client though, I would suggest applying RCE patcher on it.
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Official lore of Octojeet GMs
>One of them, Pig, was caught banning people that the top server guild didn't like
>The GMs spam world chat every 30minutes with "don't be a chud or get banned"
>That whole ordeal with the crafter recently and the GM once again being a total retard
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>official lore
>some schizo greentext with zero evidence
k
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>>578629729
>CN devs were the ones to save the server before it went down
>passed it to the western devs
>???????
What does this prove other than the Ravencraft devs are the legitimate TurtleWoW devs?
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whats the insane schizo fud going to be for frostmourne?
tell me now so i can formulate my counter arguments against it please
and dont tell me its just going to be the usual "heh... the wpsg guild has a person i dont like in it!" that you guys use for every server, thats gotten stale now and nobody cares
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>>578631948
You forgot about a GM giving mats for legendary. You forgot about them spying on whisper and guild chat, even banning for stuff posted in guild chat.
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>>578631409
retard
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So not only is my rapist in the guild, but there's also a pedophile?
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>>578631830
Boards tend to have their own cultures and identities. /lit/ isn’t the same place as /pol/ or /v/. While the origin of the site is so moot could talk about his animes it has grown well beyond that.
Most posters on /vg/ do not consume troonime nor post troonime images. Learn to read the room.
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>>578631948
people getting banned for what they to each other in guild chat is reason enough why I will never touch that cursed leftoid server
absolutely vile
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>>578632028
The chinese devs didnt develop anything, they were just authorized distributors of turtle content, nothing you played on was ever made by chinese people
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>>578631948
>>578631298
>>578630527
>>578630083
>>578630075
What is this mental illness called?
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>>578631864
I ran into one in the Auberdine in earlier and we waved at each other she was very cute with her pigtails and white hair.
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>>578632097
What the fuck does posting this prove other than you being barely sentient
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>>578632170
It's called being an egomaniac stubborn loser and failure to accept being wrong.
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>>578631943
>>578631008
Also the day that the warden private key get leaked or somehow get cracked, it will be over, all of these clients will be silently exploitable.
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>>578632170
doa-wn syndrome
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>>578632028
There were no Chinese devs. The dev team was a mix of westerners and Russians. China only had a GM staff that ran the code EU made for them.
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>>578632103
Sounds like a normal wpsg guild to me, what seems to be the problem?
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>>578632170
astroturfing
happens every time some new server comes out resident discord cabal of homos goes full brrr on the shilling
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uh oh octobottom spergie
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>raven is ran by capy
just fuck my shit up
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>>578632347
You mean all the astroturfing that octo are doing all over reddit and even attempting here?
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>>578631097
He'll regret it, they all do
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>>578632376
He didn’t call you a samefag he called you mentally ill along with the other retards he replied to
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>>578631097
this wouldn't have happened on octowow...
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>>578632426
>hurr durr tribalism
anyway same shit happened when capy and octo emerged
why do it for free is beyond me, at least get paid
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>>578632076
>ops are going to shit talk my server guild the same way they do with every server
>try to engage and use arguments
talk about insane schizo behaviour
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>>578632585
It’s the same Octo vs Capy shit because Ravencraft is Capybara
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the octojeet cries out in pain as he strikes you
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the only real reason people are actually playing on chinacraft is because they missed octo fresh
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>please don’t play on that server it’s bad it has indians on it it has trannies on it it has evil corrupt gms on it play on my server play with me do what i say obey me
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I'll play on whatever server she's playing on...
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>>578632732
No, they just run a better product. I have a 60 in some pre-bis on octo and its bugged to shit. Before that I played capy, it was flawless.
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>>578632831
you also have to recognize me by my schizophrenic posts and remember all of my characters
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how many people from here are even still active on octowow? genuine question
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>>578632926
She's not playing wow
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>>578632938
yeah people here are definitely known to care about quality
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you fucking idiots, it's a brand new fresh and you should be HYPED, fucking HYPED i say.
Instead you just clearly shill for some cheap ripoff thats just a cheap moneygrab troon server and cant even stay online for one single night. What happens when the ddos gets worse or stays on for a whole day, or a week?
Disgusting. Take me back to when we actually wanted fresh.
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>>578632732
Correct. World Peace fell apart right as a new server sprung up so the clique responsible for World Peace’s death jumped ship to create the next destined to fail guild.
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>>578632994
me, im not in <branded> though
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b-but rice nigger-chan heroically saved Turtie WoW from the evil western capitalists
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>running on fresh hype
>still barely anyone playing
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>>578633080
this is exactly why im still playing on capy
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Octojeets KNOW having the trve 1.18.1 instead of a buggy aislop recreation is an advantage that will prove its worth in time and they cannot match, whoch is why they make up so many lies trying to discredit it. First with the lies about rested xp not working, and now claiming this unused localization file means anything.
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>>578632994
anyone from branded care to respond?
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who is he talking to?
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capywow:
>capitalistically, freemarketly sells all sorts of kino transmogrifications and mtx on their cash shop
octroon:
>tranny secret police prowl your chat logs trying to find the one time you used a no-no word while whispering a friend

the chink server is the less communist one unironically
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>>578632994
Me but currently waiting for classic+
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>>578632994
I play on Octowow and no I'm not in Branded. Those fags are embarrassing.
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launched some hunter bots on ravencraft
how long do you think they will last?
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>>578633365
>i play ai coded slop
Ranjeet....
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>>578633341
ew why
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>>578633330
Capitalism isn't soulless consumerism you commie faggot.
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that server you are playing on? trannies play on it, theres corrupt gms, theres third worlders too

why wouldnt you play on the server that im playing on instead? it has no issues, no drama, everything is perfect
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>>578632228
>rce comes from the server
so dont join shit servers and you wont get ratted
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>"Capitalism isn't soulless consumerism you commie faggot."
>continues to consume soullessly
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>>578632994
13:44 GMT 24/08/2026
Branded has 7 online
Octo PVE has 2398 online
Yotsuba has 17 online
Ravencraft has 490 online
Of course, we remind everyone that <Branded> isn't a legitimate /wpsg/ guild, they had a lot of members on Ambershire a year ago before even being advertised here. I assume many anons are enjoying Octo wow without being in a 4chan guild
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>>578633439
You're embarrassing too you stupid shill but not as embarrassing as the freakazoids over in Branded.
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>>578633491
Oh, is capitalism when people only spend their hard earned money buying things you think they should?
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I already played on turtle and didn't like anything about it, content, balance, community
why would I give a rat's about clones?
If you want me to check out your server give me something new
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>>578633663
>give me something new
unfortunately the newest server with the most custom content is retailslop ascension
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>>578633663
Play Conquest of Azeroth then, if you don't like it it can't be helped
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>>578633637
No. But your reply was less retarded than the other anon who indirect replied me so you get the (You). That's capitalism.
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you all owe shenna and crogge your wow
pay up NOW
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>>578633628
I'm a shill for calling you a low impulse niggerjeet for playing on a shitty clone instead of the real turtlewow? Cool
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>turtle clones
make something new
everwood is the only one that looks interesting
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>>578633767
he was literally the only reply to your post, and you gave him a free (you). that's communism.
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so bros how long till raven dies? not really feeling levelling to 40 again for nothing or for when blizz takes it down
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>>578632994
me, i'm on octo and in branded! :3
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>>578633934
it will die from having no players
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>try healing with lvl 16 pyromancer
>can barely keep the tank alive
>several wipes because I'm out of mana
what the fuck is this class, am I missing some core skills or did I just pick the most dogshit healer in the game?
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>>578633934
>blizz takes it down
how they r gonna take down chinese server?
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>>578633663
>>578633843
>>578633663
>If you want me to check out your server give me something new
This. We shouldn't be giving these clones anything. If a server wants to follow in Turtle's footsteps it needs to develop its own custom content and make something interesting.
Give me a three faction server. Give me a no faction server. Do something different.
Wow private servers are so dead we're seriously slapfighting over ai slop versus chink slop. How can you fags even be assed to care about this shit?
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Gonna be honest here I have been schizo posting about raven vs octo all week and I don't even play on either. I just love stirring up you guys, it's very very fun and extremely easy to do.
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>>578634039
WVLLCRVFT is this way https://www.wallcraft.org
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>>578634051
What a sad sad life....
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>>578634036
can they move the servers to china please, my ping would go down by half
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>>578634051
Same. I've been shitposting relentlessly for both sides.
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>>578634051
Same but I play both and I just love stirring shit
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>>578634017
players is one thing, but blatantly having it up without any protection whatsoever is pretty amateur
>>578634036
its just chinese code/devs I thought, or is it hosted in china?
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>>578634167
Nothing else to really do while I wait for my M+ group to form.
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>>578634143
wide as an ocean deep as a puddle
he shouldve just stuck with the FFA zones and guild bases no one gives a fuck about playing tuskarr
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>>578634167
You just call someone a tranny or claim someone in one of the guilds is a secret dog fucker or pedo or something and it becomes lore that people repeat here. Hilarious.
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>>578633934
>people looking for the """classic""" experience play on servers with unironic level cap
this shit never stops being funny to me
a bunch of zoomers playing football with a "no goal before the next season" rule, because if someone scores the other team might get upset lmao
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Any private server where I can play as a Tuskarr?
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>>578634247
>FFA zones and guild bases
at this point why play WoW?
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I have no interest in either, but I will defend both servers.
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>>578634051
same lol ive been shilling them both hard on multiple accounts, shit is so funny to watch
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>>578634491
>>578634491
>>578634491
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>>578634368
at this point why not kill yourself?
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>>578634247
youre gonna be real embarrassed when it comes out in 40 years and becomes the next hit mmo, you fucking chud
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>>578634028
at level 16 you will likely grouped up with higher level players and healing them can be nightmare due to scaling. when you get to higher levels it will be the other way round simply because of scaling

>several wipes because I'm out of mana
mana issues disappear forever after you get Essence of Malygos talent. make sure Ashen Skin is up
>am I missing some core skills
no. single target pyromancer healing remains the same from level 15 to level 60. you might not be utilizing shields enough, pyro is a shield healer

>did I just pick the most dogshit healer in the game?
right now it's the worst dungeon healer (especially in mythics) and mid in raids but classes get nerfed and buffed all the time so that might change. if you want to see what's currently the best you can check it out here

https://coa.ascensionlogs.gg/statistics/healing?phase=2
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>>578632732
True
I think a lot of the eflop hype was due to people feeling behind on turtle also
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Daily reminder that we hate turtle, raven is just frostie waiting room
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I like turtle, what are we doing about it
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>>578633625
No one wants to join a guild of hair trigger trannies who hold grudges.



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