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She is so sinful, she is so beautiful.
I love Reina!
If harpy anon loves reina so much im surprised they havent drawn a abomination child between them and Luka yet.
Lucifina is far too tempting for me, I couldn't say no to her. Here are her scenes MTL if anyone wants to see them.https://files.catbox.moe/fch2ex.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/5hbh1z.mp4
>Eva tries to stall us for four more floors>Mom immediately gets sick of her shit and slams Eva's brains into the floor, knocking out a power each timeKEK >KEKKEKThanks mom!
>>578868368that just feels weird especially when put like that
>>578868829One of the most Based Mom Moment of the game. Don't hesitate to fight around, they have some fun stuffs.Wait did you do Pride already?Don't forget to talk to Eva afterward.
>>578869124Listen already i have no idea what the fuck to call nero and neris' race as is already. I cant really put it to terms Ill just call it a godbird there.
I- what IS that?
HERE WE GO LAZARUS
ANTIYURIFAGS DON'T LOOK!!!
>>578869835Something very weird and disgusting.I remember when you said it was a cool design judging by the portrait jt was funny!
>>578870095I thought it was going to be some sort of multiheaded dragon like the monster of gommorah or some shit like that. Such a shame.
>>578870092What are they talking about? Why are they talking about it??
>>578870226Same there bud, same there.Now have fun with the post revelation!
>>578870092some of this isn't yuri so much as surprise or "you wouldn't believe what I saw!" but some of it definitely is. Alma and Sara's already easy to remember but I forgot Remina goes after Constance.>Papi coming out of nowhere with the washboard haymakerkek
>>578870438>What are they talking about?Isn't it obvious? They are talking about _____https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifyju2G_0AI
>>578870886>some of this isn't yuri so much as surprise or "you wouldn't believe what I saw!"I mean, why would a straight woman spy on other women masturbating/being naked/comparing their tits?
>>578869835Without the "tail", Satan there would be a pretty hot design. It's one of there weird ones that is going to be impossible to see in a collab by how rated M it is.
>>578871362Doing it intentionally and just walking in on it happening by accident or spying on someone and getting caught by surprise are two different things. To be fair though, like I said that's only for some of them, and there's some of those comments where it's definitely the former.>why would a woman degrade another's breast size as a power movePapi makes fun of them for that several times and Vanilla starts getting jealous when she thinks they're getting bigger because she really doesn't want to be a chestlet.
>>578870886>>578871362Not to mention that some of them are blushed. Would you not find it kinda sus if a man turned red from hearing the "I'm over here strokin" meme?
>>578871362>>578872090Imagine the bitch gossip tho>girl had a nasty hairy pussy I bet she sleeps with anything
>>578872671Isn't alma elma the sole monster girl with pubic hair? Sans people who just have all fur down there like harpies or wolf girls
>>578869835>>578870226You're thinking of the Whore of Babylon (the title Minagi took) and the Scarlet Beast that she rides upon, either that or the monsters that rise from the sea. I'm still not really sure what the idea there was. It's just bizarrely weird and unusual.While I have the chance to bring this up, when I had datamined the game initially and looked through it, something hilarious I discovered was that SDS's sprite is actually unfinished, and you can even get an idea as to how the creative process of the chibis probably looked from her. The static right-middle pose is flipped as you would expect, but right-left and right-right for some reason feature her as a completely blank default chibi void of any details, except instead of the basic "default chibi" template, the template chibi that they're using lacks the undergarments and is naked. SDS's head was also copied onto them from the middle pose like you would expect, as her hair was designed move in the left sprite, and in the right sprite her hair is rigid and stuck in the same pose.This has been how I've been making chibis, actually, I start with the head, then design the default "body" over the template, and then from there once the default chibi is "finished" I use it to make a static left/right/back pose and then I work to make it move from there. If the left and right side are not asymmetrical, then I can just copy one to flip it for the other, and if they are asymmetrical I can add the details on to distinguish them. SDS was completed, but her chibi artist forgot to take the finished left movement poses and flip them for the right.Also her file name identifies her as "Great Devil Succubus".
>>578873251She look so much better without the tail.>Also her file name identifies her as "Great Devil Succubus".Another proof of change during development?
>>578873251you know what on second thought I don't want to chance it so I just put the black bars on. Either way it's kinda hilarious that this happened and I have to imagine this will be fixed by NG++ because there is NO way trtr wouldn't immediately notice this the second he's testing anything with her and she turns to the right and starts flicking in and out of her clothes.>>578869819They're just called demonoids, iirc
>>578873547Her name on file seems to be Satan, which correlates well with her mooks.
>>578873547Possibly not, given she IS identified as a great demon, who is connected to Succubi and she's the one responsible for corrupting a section of the lineage from Succubi into Vampires and tainting their genes to the point where they require blood.The All-Knowing One is identified as Apoptosis Succubus and the Banshees are called Cursed Loreleis, so those would be clearer examples of things being reworked at some point in the dev cycle.
>>578873737That's the filename for her CG's, which I feel fits her more. It's odd to me that she's referred to something differently for her chibi/character sprite, but it's something interesting to think about, like how Nephilim was placed in DemiHuman04 and has the whole thing all to herself even though she doesn't have that race in the final game.
>>578873974The multi-verse murder hobos seemed to have either been a last minute rewrite, or TrTr needed a bunch designs for them, and had to make do with some old ones after being unable to commission new ones.
>>578874438I think they just weren't grouped together initially, and there was a smaller list of them. There's a good number of the Sixteen Calamities who are foreshadowed all the way back in Parts One and Two, such as Koron, Angolmois, and the Dimensional Invader.
>>578875313>who are foreshadowed all the way back in Parts One and TwoReally?
>>578873251>Scarlet Beast that she rides upon, either that or the monsters that rise from the sea.NTA. Actually the Beast from the sea is usually not depicted as draconic, though there are some depictions that do add a dragon-like head. Also, ironically, while the seven heads in both beasts are now associated with the seven deadly sins, the concept of the SDS wasn't created until much after the book of revelation. Also ironically, Satan, who is believed to be the Scarlet Beast was associated with Wrath, and Lucifer, believed by some to be the Antichrist (who is believed to be the Beast of the Sea) was associated with Pride. Also ironically, both beasts and Leviathan, who is associated with Envy took some obvious inspiration from the Ugaritic Lotan. Pride Envy and Wrath are also considered to be the top deadly sins.
>>578872538some of them have blush stickers on all of their face cgs, Papi has the blush even when she's crying tear geysers.>>578872671brutal!
>>578875887I didn't ever claim it was a dragon, though, and I didn't ever think that they would be a version of the seven headed beast either (you are correct in that this is another "the Bible didn't actually say that" thing like the Hierarchy of Angels or Dante's Inferno). All I said was that's probably what he meant by 'monster of gommorah', and that the design she does have is weird.Also I'm pretty sure Leviathan IS Lotan, but I think there's some debate over that.
>>578876127That's how it's supposed to be, isn't it?Girls have blush and eyelashes, men don't unless they're Spongebob
>>578876708well, yeah, that's my point.
>>578875879ye
>>578877480That's not a big foreshadowing.
>>578818667>>578868450Neat. Don't suppose one of you would be willing to translate Singularity? https://mega.nz/folder/md1nhZoS#muuUovhlmEDaFNNa1_wJMAThe folder with all the untranslated scenes.
>>578876657>Also I'm pretty sure Leviathan IS Lotan, but I think there's some debate over that.Basically, Leviathan is the demoted, genderbent, judeochristian version of Lotan (which is the demoted, genderbent, ugaritic version of Tiamat). While Leviathan's role, at least in proto-judaism, is almost identical to Lotan's, the latter looks a lot more like the beasts of revelation while the other is usually depicted as more fish-like and simple.
>>578868450Just FYI, the scenes you uploaded seem to have no sound.
>>578878512Sorry about that, I wasn't paying attention to that. I can't fix it right now though
>>578870092>half of these aren’t even actual yuriAre c/u/cks this desperate?
>>578878076God kills Sea Monster, a tale passed down from time to time.But to be clear I was referring to their roles; for appearances I do agree that the Beasts of the Apocalypse in the Book of Revelation are more comparable to Lotan. Also just to clarify 'Lucifer' is a title, one attributed to both Jesus Christ and Satan, and it was only later that they started getting treated like different individuals.
>>578877596It's not, sure, but most of Santos's dialogue is '......' and the few lines of dialogue he has are in different languages (with one telling you 'the truth is out there' and another poking fun at you), so trtr hiding an easter egg in one of them was kinda fun. It's just the kind of thing you can look back on as "oh, that's cool!" once you realize what they're talking about and why the Great King of Terror of all things is randomly brought up. Koron and NLK have a similar easter egg level of foreshadowing, through gear drops in the LOC.The one with the most foreshadowing in clear day is the D.I., because the Dark Elf Mage and Tentacle Villager will realize during a discussion that their powers are of the same nature; this is because it traces back to her. By extension, the worms causing people to become increasingly mentally unstable and heightening their sadism even plays into Hiruko, because while the humans and elves are implanting themselves with 'homunculi' created from the summoned "worms", she has the genes hard-coded into her from the start and they're the reason she became such a dangerous mess.
>>578879186>Also just to clarify 'Lucifer' is a title, one attributed to both Jesus Christ and Satan, and it was only later that they started getting treated like different individuals.Correct, though the character isn't exactly original, as it seems to be usually used for is basically a christianization of the jewish Samael, especially in the role as Lilith's lover. Also sometimes the antichrist.
How far dothey go in Paradox?
>>578878076There's a whole set of other sea serpents in Levantine traditions that all influence what came later. Ur, Tannin, Rahab, Tiamat, Illuyanka, etc.One thing that's interesting for Leviathan is that in some stories it's not just a monster but also still a servant of God, so in the end times it, Behemoth and Ziz serve as a great sacrificial feast for the faithful. That's why I gave the three angelic traits for my project, along with some other sacred animals in the bible.
>>578881915Indeed. Although in my own opinion, while the great game of telephone has unfortunately not helped, I believe Samael and Satan are likely another case of different names for the same individual. The New Testament follows the Old Testament after all.
The shrift 2 link in the OP is still dead
feels
>>578877743I haven't rolled her yet bro...
>>578893717Massive improvement
>>578894284over what?
>>578893120>I haven't rolled her yet bro...Can't roll her, she's in the more costly paid pack. Was wondering if someone might be able to make a translation using the non translated one in the linked mega folder.
>>578894428The one you posted before, its either a new angle or you changed the nose
>>578894520It's old and i thought it was bad. I found it while looking for images for patreon. I should go back to it, I was wrong about it.
>>578891758>picYeah, you kind of LEFT HIM ALONE.
>>578895738she died because it was either that or Ilias would force her out and take Luka with her
>>578895516Its because it has less detail like most anime noses,
>>578895901Ah yes. Lucifina. The Lucifina that Ilias feared. That Lucifina.
>>578895994she was retired and not as powerful as she used to be, compared to someone like the AW!Version of her in her prime. More importantly though she didn't want Luka to know about his angelic heritage at all, she wanted him to just grow up as a normal human, away from Ilias and what she'd do to him. It wasn't a good choice, but there weren't really any good options for her in the situation.
As the most devoted man to Illias I live in an almost all monster village, though I've never had sex with any of them. Why don't I live with humans or Angels you ask? Its.... Because....I find Angels too attractive, all of them. So I left because I knew I was letting them down and disappointing them, not even Illias can forgive my sins
>>578896467>she was retired and not as powerful as she used to beAnd she could come back as the feared Daystar when she wanted.>More importantly though she didn't want Luka to know about his angelic heritage at allWhich was stupid, because obviously Ilias was going to use him.
>>578897556and do what? even if she was still as strong as she used to be, which she wasn't from suppressing her power for so long, what is she supposed to do? just fight all of heaven when they come after Luka? Luka's life would be destroyed no matter the outcome.>it's dumb because Ilias was going to use him>so allowing him to avoid being groomed by her and grow up as a human who will be able to make his own choices is badit was the best option in the scenario for Luka, yes.
>just trust the BBEG and source of all problems bro lolnice try illass!
You know, the real question about Luka's childhood is why did his mother never say anything to make him not devout to Ilias? She may have told him not to hate monsters, but never seems to have directly told him to question the goddess.
>>578898108She merely sealed her power, and could have regained them at any point. The best option would have been to be PRESENT.Stop being retarded.>what is she supposed to do? just fight all of heaven when they come after Luka?Yes. She is fucking Lucifina the Daystar.Stop. Being. Retarded. You. Dipshit.
>>578898570Her decision was understandable. Her power had weakened over time and she didn't want Luka to be dragged into such a massive battle at that age, and heaven would be going after him if she fought back. She wanted him to grow up as a human and be able to think for himself, even if she wouldn't be able to be there with him. So she preserved his humanity. It was the best option in a bad situation for his future compared to the alternatives.>Stop being retarded.I'm not the one having a meltie because someone doesn't agree with them, anon.
Ilias probably would've just killed the town they were in to keep the outcome hidden too if it didn't just occur by happenstance ngl since she's just that kind of person.
>>578899623Sure, whatever you say.>Her power had weakened over timeMr Headcanon. Why don't you go suck a dick elsewhere?
>>578868829
>>578898570>why didn't lucifina just solo heaven?Because VN lucifina was never that hilariously overpowered. She was the strongest angel sure but heinrich, the strongest hero of the era, didn't even make a dent in illias when he threw that big tantrum. Scarred angels for life sure but illias was fine, can always make more angels to throw into the meat grinder. Illias didn't do anything when lucifina depowered herself and seemingly respected lucifina's wishes to be left alone with her new human family, other than spitefully spend a plague and kill her daughter in the process because illias is greek gods levels of petty. Plus they had aunt miccy in the forrest who was supposed to help luka out in case things ever go bad like say illias dropping face in part 3 and miccy does that to the best of her ability. Its also just that when you have compentant old characters you need a reason for them to not just DO the plot for the hero, because then theres no story.
>>578900167Micaela's power also weakened over time anon it's not exactly a "headcanon".Now calm down, and keep your homosexuality under control.
>>578900618>Micaela's power also weakenedSo weakened, she bitchslapped Ilias with her sword two times. Please continue, I do so love you agreeing with me without meaning to.
>>578900754yeah, she literally says she was weakened anon, she can't spam Sword of the Heavens like she used to. Also she just helps Luka fight Ilias, Micaela cannot actually defeat Ilias by herself, which is why she retreats after she exhausts the power she had left.
>>578900754Yes, she bitch slapped illias twice, once telling luka she was out of juice and then a second time because she was lying about the first time to get illias to lower her guard, then she was really actually out of juice and the rest of the fight is up to luka
>>578900754>acts this smug>when being this wrongthe gift of the /v/-faggot
>>578900919>>578900936Funny how it's not so different than in Paradox eh? What was how the skill was describing? Oh yes, injuring a goddess. Guess what she did in the VN, even when weakened?Funny how that work.
>>578901093Guess what she DIDN'T do in the VN?Oh yes! Solo Ilias. Because she couldn't.Funny how that works.
What if she just didn't want to in the vn setting cause torotoro hadn't actually planned out how stupid the story would get near the end or through paradox
Finally, a non-frfr Ilias that gets the crazy faceShe's just not Ilias without the psycho look>>578901534Nero's level 70 for the Armorered Berserker fight and comically weaker than the version you eventually recruit, they were all written at a lower scale initially.
>>578901267No one talked about soloing her. But please, continue to be retarded.
>>578901734Ok so how do you expect Micaela or Lucifina to beat her when Ilias comes downThey won't, which is why Lucifina didn't tryThanks for agreeing with me
>>578901897Imagine if they worked together.Oh and remember that moment when I said that Ilias feared Lucifina? Because you forgot.
This wouldn't be a problem if Ilias wasn't written to be a gigantic jobber nowhere near the level of the five dozen other primordial entities paradox pulled out of its ass (including her opposing force)
>>578900248meanwhile if she were here Karen:"Amazing Lucifina-sama, are you alright?"
>>578902082>hits Ilias once>hits Ilias twice>Micaela is now out of power>Lucifina goes the same wayIt's not ending well for them. You're forgetting how strong she actually is in the VN world.
>>578901734>>578898570>Is she supposed to fight all of heaven?>yes>actually soloing all of heaven does not include the ruler of heaven who's trying to force her out in the first place>>578902082Micaela would get two hits in with SotH, probably destroy a town or two in the process from how destructive that attack is, and then be tapped out for the fight. Ilias would be injured but alive and very angry, and now Micaela's run out of the ability to hurt her. Lucifina canonically is in the same boat as Micaela. The fight would destroy surrounding land, probably kill a lot of very innocent people as casualties, and they'd still lose. Ilias looks weaker in Paradox only by comparison to certain beings higher up, but she's still THE Goddess of Light and the VN did not hit her with the nerf bat.
>>578903050What a beautiful smile.
>>578901667>she's threatening Lucifina in the quotekek
It's still ridiculous to me how TRTR's mouthpiece tries to "explain" that MGQ's blatantly obvious demographic problem is nonexistent because 1 man can have sex with multiple partners, yet Paradox pushes monogamy with the fucking Walmart ring and the one harem in the game is an obvious parody of the harem genre. (Ironically the original VN has multiple harem endings that are now officially actual alternative timelines.) Like, ok, "Promestein", then where are your request scenes in which you arrange massive breeding orgies for Luka? Because I just can't seem to find any them.
>enrika michaelaOnly has 2 swords in her because she hasn't done anything in decades and "let her sword rust">AW MichaelaCould potentially kill her own ilias but has her reasons not to>Fallen Michaelalol
>>578902802>>578903050And yet, two hits, plus a Luka, plus a Quadruple Giga + Light + Dark were enough, in her fleshy ugly form. Curious.
>>578901667I wish the other major angels (Michaela, Eden and Ilias) and luka had unique Daystar cut-ins
>>578903328TRTR suck at logic.And people will pretend it's Promestein being wrong instead of TRTR.Such is life.
>>578903328Promestein's entire speech is stupid in the first place because she completely neglects to factor in emotions. That's just not how it works.
>>578903493I got a boner at the idea. Imagining their expressions as they cast Daystar..
>>578903524>people will say the character saying the speech is wrongyeah.>>578903386>Two hits>+Alma Elma>+Tamamo>+Erubetie Nuke>+Granberia>+Alice>+Sextuple Giga combining the powers of six elements via Holy + Dark fusion and the Four SpiritsAnd you think Lucifina can just pull that out of her ass or something, Luka's not even grown up yet
>>578903524I can believe that an author writes a character without automatically believing everything that character says yes, Luka's smarter than Promestein is and the game calls her self-righteous at points. No one even tries to pretend her solution to racism would work, because it wouldn't.
>>578903328Prom is right though? We just need to strip human men of their rights, and make them into breeding tools. Women of all three species will be fucked, and the cum cows will have no say in the matter.
>>578904029When the top goddesses on chaos steroids couldn't do that to a 15-year-old?
>>578903493There's a colored version of this out there but this would still be perfect for how it should look
>>578903386Bro that fight is like 20 minutes long of everyone chipping at illias's fuckoff healthbar
>>578904567the monochrome original looks better imo
>>578904673I agree, I don't think I saved the other one for that reason. In any case it's still exactly how it would look when she's doing it.
>>578903980Yeah, I think you misunderstand. TRTR didn't write that speech because he believed in it or wanted to show how wrong Prom is. The reason he wrote it is right there at the end. It's a glorified "just shut up about it". The rest of the speech is an excuse. A very bad excuse that fails the moment you just notice how it describes a scenario that's just not happening in the game.
>>578904935Why would it need to happen when there isn't a population crisis?
Young promstien kissu
>>578904571>20 minutesSo much for a goddess lol
>>578903050>Ilias looks weaker in Paradox only by comparison to certain beings higher up, but she's still THE Goddess of Light and the VN did not hit her with the nerf bat.Hot take but I think Paradox makes her look stronger if anything despite her being a jobber in it. Big reason being is that the heavenly knights lose to Ancestors/Archangels so to have that middle ground tier gives the idea of a bigger gap between her and Alma Elma. Most of the early chaos route bosses honestly don't give the impression that they could beat Raphaela let alone a full power Ilias even if you fight them after the first two routes, and anything administrator is treated like above god anyways.
>>578903790NTA. You do realize that is Chaos Ilias, right? She didn't have that power until the final fight of part 3. We don't even know when Prom finished making her dark goddess juice.
>>578905060Because when a population crisis is very hard to fix. The ideal is for to not happen in the first place.
>>578902802Ilias is not smart in terms of battle tactics.Its just send your strongest units against their strongest units. She likely even did this in angel world as sub-ilias or just spawned more that are smarter than she is at fighting. cuz if you include the seraphs and lucifina she had 11 ancestor tier shitters in angel world.She also canonically does not know how to fight very well. She just flaunts power around most of the time and when she runs low on mana and figures it isnt working she resorts to just rape.Also luka+alice alone are enough for normal ilias by the end of the vn. it's chaos ilias thats the issue.In paradox though due to her struggle as a loli she learns how to fight better and strategize better.
>>578904935I think it's more to show how cripplingly autistic and out-of-touch with everyone else Promestein is, because spouting technobabble and then acting as though she's superior is something she does very frequently. The game makes it clear her situation isn't occurring and the hypothetical wouldn't work either.I get some have accused her of being a self-insert in part one but I just never really saw it since the world didn't justify her more absurd behaviors and ideas.
>>578903328She forgot to factor in emotions into species like as if the males would actually sit there and raise their kids. She also forgot monster pussy is addictive and humans will just think human pussy is outright worse after fucking one. Which will make humans wanna fuck monsters instead of human pussy thus resulting in less humans being born as well.All being male does is make it so in an emergency situation recovering your species' numbers is harder.Also they can make breeding programs whcih iirc does also happen in monster world the females would do the same.
>>578906405Luka is a self insert for all of trtr's weird fetishes.
>>578906329>she runs low on mana and figures it isnt working she resorts to just rapeDamn, so illias has something in common with the lowly monster girl huh?
>>578906405The crowd doesn't dismiss her because she's wrong, they dismiss her because they don't want to listen to her. And the demographic situation is never really brought up again iirc. Really feels like he just wanted to "solve" (read: brush aside) an obvious worldbuilding problem.
>>578907038Luka is trauma shota. Paradox removed the trauma from his backstory and had to retraumatize him because hes really boring without any trauma
>>578906329Luka and Alice are strong enough to beat everything else at that point, and Ilias just drops the first form to go straight into the second one when she realizes Luka isn't surrendering. She would start by just trying to zerg rush the two archangels if they openly rebelled, but she would eventually go down there herself, and they are canonically weakened by time. The fight would also inevitably have a LOT of collateral damage, and a lot of people would be killed.My point at the start of this was simply that Lucifina picked the least bad option in a bad situation; the one that would get the least amount of people (and angels) killed and allow Luka to live as a human like she had wanted him to, instead of just revealing herself and then picking a fight with an unavoidably massive death toll that she wouldn't win in the end.I simply think her choice was understandable, even if it's not a very happy outcome. There wasn't going to be a happy outcome either way.
>>578907229They are weakened by time outside of heaven iirc. according to the qna angels cant die of old age while up there due to holy magic permeating and rejuvenating them.
>>578907176If he really wanted to he could have explained that monsterboys will always make monstergirls unless fucking a strong enough monstergirl because monsterboys do exist in setting.
>>578907176There isn't even a worldbuilding issue though, because that isn't happening in the first place. There's plenty of human x human going on.
>>578907102all the angels do, Valkyrie realizes she can't beat him in a normal fight so she starts trying to molest him instead
>>578907770Yeah, but for how long? The human male-to-female ratio would need to be ridiculous to maintain both the human and monster populations at healthy levels. Doesn't help that the monsters are choosing beggars and the few monster species that CAN birth males just avoid doing so.
>>578908683Qna states monsters are 1/10th the human amount.angels 1/100th due to a specific purple haired man 500 years ago.
>>578908767the QNA states that but nothing we've seen backs that up. Not talking about random encounters but monster populations seem relatively equivalent to humans.
Why doesn't every human just adopt an Imp?
>>578908904>Ant Girls: There are 30 thousand Ants>Luka: There are 50 million humansAnt Girls are one of the most numerous species on the planet because they are a colony type.
>>578908904Why wouldnt a monstergirl game show monstergirls.
>>578909286why make some offhand comment that there arent' that many monster girls if you're gonna constantly be showing them off anyways
50 million humans and about 200 of them at any given time aren't total fodder lmao
>>578909386Because luka is the super special protagonist that all monsters wanna fucky wuck. If any of us anons were transported into mgq we would not have it as good as him. Dudes balls smell to good.
>>578909436TRUTH NUKE.
Everyone should just cede authority to the harpy tribe and take a page out of their book since they're one of the only groups that actually has a handle on what they're doing and care about the human women existing in addition to the men
>>578909436Guns nigger. Use them don't go in charging with a pig sticker a literal fucking dragon or a demon with strength that surpasses yours, shoot it down
>>578909436The first time monsters and humans went to war, humans won in the end. The 2nd Monster War in Paradox was a human victory as well, even after they burned through their manpower and resources on a continental war manipulated by AU outsiders.
>>578909809That choice is up to the humans and the humans have already chosen the right race (succubi).
>>578910103depends on the region
>>578910034Dude vn humans dont got guns.
>>578910103actually most places are angel ruled now
I want one hundred thousand years with a generic angel soldier
>>578910418Losers the lot of them, then again the weakest paradox human is stronger than the strongest VN human
>>578911332i'm pretty sure the king of sabasa in the vn would still kick the shit out of a lot of paradox humans
>>578911332>>578911419he had to be held back to part three and turned into a cross route fetch quest because our man was too strong otherwiseand now he's even stronger
>>578911332What if VN GG King transformed into a giant squid too? Would he be at the same level as his Paradox counterpart, or would he be weaker/stronger? Paradox Sara seems to be about the same as her VN counterpart in succubus form. But Paradox Sara as a human is definitely stronger than the VN version.
>>578911645bro cant be used till your second route the game considers him onpart with archfiend iirc.
>>578911419>>578911645>>578911792They are mutts Remember John, Lazarus, Samson and MW Lazarus would annihilate all of the VN humans in a straight up fight, hell San Ilias knight when mermaids attack they are fighting back at them hard something event he mermaids are surprised how strong they are"Mermaid Knight: So the knight's of San Ilias are quite good impressive"
>>578912181even in the vn they beat back a lot of monsters, angels, and even chimeras. We're not shown HOW they do this but they do. and trtr is generally convinced they can
>>578912315To be fair the uh angels start giving up cuz by the end ilias was basically sending civilians with no proper combat training out and they got hurt for the first time ever and really didnt like it.
>>578911792Paradox GG King would stomp the VN version's head in, even if they are not chimera squids. While he was lazy good for nothing in the VN, he was an accomplished mage in Paradox from what we saw in that small flashback during his therapy session.
>>578911792>A) no job system means he doesn't have Magus King and doesn't get that strong>B) he gets Magus King anyways and is only the slightest bit weaker because mana but the lack of job system makes him even scarier to monstersI'd say B is more likely
>Lucifina instructs him to pluck Vivi's wings if she ever gets out of line>Master realizes Vivi doesn't have any wings in the first place>Lucifina: ???outplayed
Wholesome prom
>>578913598Everyone is angry at prome for being stupid right now.
>You find the big chest or little chest doll girl in the mansion again>She's absolutely terrified of mom and spills the answer>Mom gets a little sadAwwwww
>>578913982speak for yourself, awawa is peak and prom is cute (and stupid)
>>578915316wrong prome my bad it was the other one.
>>578915316All proms are cute and stupid
>>578915152head to the kitchen to see gordan ramsay send pics.
>>578915656VN version is neither cute or stupid.She is dead.
>>578915673Oh I found the table zombies first
>>578915839Dirty feet on the table is super rude.
Shirome!
>The no life king is a zombified chrome
MINI LOOKS SO CUTE AAAAA
>>578915673KEK. THE PRESENCE OF A GENUINE FOOD CRITIC MADE THEM SHIT THEIR PANTS
>>578916732It's moments like these where Luka starts missing Sonya, being the straight man is some hard ass work,I think some other characters start missing her absence because of it,too like IIias and Alice, they had it too good not being the tard wranglers while she was around now she's not here so now they gotta cover all of it
Hey if chaos was a mesugaki how would the plot of paradox change?
>>578916732The guy owned an inn luka's house dudes an actual cook. this is some neato lore tying into this.
>>578918693Yeah I know, I saw his dialogue when you reencounter alice at the Inn
>>578908767Even if it was 1/20th it'd still be an issue. Because most monster girls can only birth females (and the ones who can usually don't want to), unless human families keep making increasingly more male children in order to satisfy the whole monster population in a few generations we run into a dead end.Keep in this pic doesn't take into account that a lot of monsters care about moderation and/or their kids even less than they do about consent. I'm being very generous by just making it only 2 monster births per mother. In the first scenario uses the minimum children per mother average ratio to maintain the population and in the 2nd I increase until we reach the point in which even 2 boys per human family aren't enough. Also notice the population growth in the 2nd. That is a logistical nightmare.
>>578920696basically promestein's entire logic is retarded. and monster girls will result in the problem ilias was worried about.
>>578915152>be lonely undead monster>cute shota comes along>try to be nice to new onii-chan>see this hovering behind his shoulder
>Ha! suck it promestein! I'm gonna have sex all I want and nothing can->Wait, I don't feel so g
>>578920805Ilias didnt give a shit about that.
>>578920805>he still thinks ilias actually caredman, you're worse than eden!
>Find Heinrich in the underworld>Poor buddy almost DIED
>>578921250>>578921349yeah i know she's just using is as a cover for her real problem which is sister issuesI however am stating that her statement that monsters may just overwrite her pet project is something to worry about.
>>578921035And this is why spider girls are the best.They keep overpopulation of other species in check, and their own!
>>578921427>almosthe sure didn't end up wandering there because he was lost
>>578921664It's more like if you woke up from an orgy and suddenly 2/3s of your species is dead.
You cry out about the vore whores as you cast them out, but it's the circle of life, and now all of a sudden too MANY is a problem for you!You'll be crawling back!!YOU'LL BE SOOOORRRRRYYYYYYYYYY
>>578920696I think that something that needs remembering is a lot of monsters live way longer than humans, and even then they dont really tend to breed often if at all. The ancestors have lived possibly millions of years and havent had kids at all the traditional way.
Aww. Cute
Reaper>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>578920696The average human won't be able to handle a monster girl, and will marry a beautiful human girl.The average monster treats semen as just food and a sizeable amount eat humans. Their own children are competition. Even in a world of coexistence relationships between human and monster often face hilarious complications.But really, if humans were in any way going to go extinct, Paradox would have shown hints of it in its first part.
>Shirome tells us that she'll disable the anti life protocol in exchange for her life, telling us she'll be leaving the rest in our hands>Luka has massive giga chad moment, sick of all the sacrifices, and writes Chrome's name himself.>It works and he doesn't dieCHAD LUKAGIGA CHAD
>>578922568Monsters dont have much kids unless they are specific insects, and they tend to eat their kids too. Most monsters are irresponsible beings who only think of the now.I mean Alma was a only succubi child, and her mom was so dissappinted in her that a do over should have happened. It looks like her mom might have had more human kids when she married funny enough.
BASED MOMBAAAASED
>>578922973retard luka more like, fucking idiot
>>578923518A lot of the "chad luka" moments chaos route is just luka literally just saying fuck it and using chaos to bypass shit because he's just so tired he fucked up three times by this point not including evaluations. but this one could have outright killed him so this one was really stupid. keep in mind every time luka uses his UOHHH CUNNY BUNNY powers he gets closer to becoming a god of chaos which is not ideal as well..
>>578922973It's time to UOOOOOHHH!!!!!
>>578923518It's funny how worse it gets the later you do it>have a bunch of blacksmith teadolls that can be given up>Prom can just build a robot with that being its only purpose>you can have Reaper in the party
>>578924139Oh yeah, I just remembered that Reaper had a questline that involves fetching white rabbit’s body. When does that become relevant?
>>578923856>stop touching the will of chaos you're gonna go insane>NO FUCK YOU UOAAAAAAAAAAH>*starts going insane*>*begins shooting himself in the foot*this one was easily the worst one but he's just a moron for half this route in general
>>578924321remember in part 2 when singularity ilias smote one down? there's your hint.
>>578924375OOOOOOH. To think that’d be relevant! So its in the temple ruins!
>>578924350to be fair i'd be a moron/batshit insane if i just literally became the dad of what is essentially azathoth. after literally failing the multiverse three times and being shafted with memories from other timelines constantly.
>>578924321You can just go pick up her body any time you feel like doing that>>578924375>just gives the answeranon come'ooooon
>>578924496If you wont remember that moment you'd never figure out where it is. You have to find it anyways thats the entire puzzle literally just solely remembering. i didnt give him the answer i'd literally have to say specifically where otheriwse up to him if he remembers where that happened. also nero decapitated her at some point then said his new glasses are like a thousand times stronger.. this is true.
>>578924492it's more like Azathoth's tardwrangler who starting thinking old 'thoth might've been onto something after overhearing her dad plan to kill and dispose of her. Hild's plan was to raise her with love and he torpedoed it before she even got to start. Which was honestly his biggest moron moment in the ruin since it kicked off everything else, maybe don't give her a reason to put the rabbit in charge.
>>578924496though to the fair the one i should have been more blunt on is if they ask for the granberia sidequest as that one is a cunt for a lot of people last i heard.
>>578924883Is ilias light? are spirits or gods their elements if so then chaos is azathoth as chaos is the fundamental force of reality ontop of the game stating multiple times reality is the dream of the god of chaos, the god of chaos is the world itself it cannot be defeated. also if you arent going by yog sothothery co-writer lore azathoth doesnt even dream reality as that lore was not by lovecraft himself but one of his friends..
>>578923856>>578924350It’s not his fault that the 16 calamities have inter dimensional gimmicks that can’t be usually beaten via normal means. And it’s not like anyone protested against Shirome sacrificing herself until Luka took things into his own hands.
>>578923106>Monsters dont have much kids unless they are specific insectsTamamo and tha harpy kid beg to differ...
>>578925462TAMAMO IS A WHORE
>>578925462None of the ancestors have had kids. Aside from minagi and the lillith sisters
>>578925536Redundant.
What do eachof the apostles embody.I know reaper is death, rabbit is time. adra and sonya are regulation and idea lukas is theoretical/imaginary space iirc.But i meant in terms of chaos' personality.As someone said earlier the fuckass rabbit embodies her resentment and self preservation. Idea Lukas embodies her love for her dad. what do the others embody
>>578925576Purityfag, please stop coping already, it is very cringe.
>>578925754Ex Sonya is her desire to be cucked
>>578925021Ilias is not literally 'light', she governs light. Holy as an element still exists without her. chaos existed before and without Chaos, and had for eight entire universe cycles prior. Chaos is, in a literal sense, an artificially created test tube baby made to be able to govern chaos by controlling the will of chaos.Reality is made up of chaos, and the will of chaos being pushed towards destruction by the holy-dark imbalance is destroying reality. It's not sentient so much as an automated force of nature. So the plan was to make someone who WAS sentient, sapient, and could control it for them and be reasoned with, the "Mastermind". That's Chaos. So saying she's meant to wrangle it would be accurate.The problem was that Dear Ol' Dad filled her heart with fear and hate and that made her susceptible to the will instead, so it began to influence her rather than the other way around. The will and Chaos still both exist, it's just that the power of love (essentially) allows her to suppress the will and properly hijack it by the end, so she can turn it back to creation instead of destruction.Also you need to keep in mind Chaos is comically chunni and really, REALLY trying to impress her dad. A lot of her flowery prose is just her wanting to look super cool. She's still pretty much a little kid after all.
>>578925889You implying chaos would watch her dad fuck actually that tracks she lets go of hild's body when you lose to deus and makes her mom fuck her dad
>>578925864We don't know how Saja made that harpy dragon.She could have made her with magic, not her vagina.
>>578922973>>578923167The part where everyone calls Luka an idiot and proposes alternate solutions is probably my favourite joke in the entire series.
>>578926115when the fuck was alice and ilias made.. also chaos the girl is fucking weird and technically before even impregnating hild exists to some fucking degree i dont even know how to explain that as she fucking peers into the shrift collab then adra shows up later to kill a rogue rabbit luka.
>>578925864Ngl I just straight up forgot about saja. This wasnt some sort of purity thing. All of the ancestors fuck and fuck a lot. My thing is if the ancestors had kids it would have been brought up like alice the third and the shiki sisters were. The fact that no tamamo kid has ever been brought up means she probably didn't have any
>>578926795ngl i thought the name ancestor meant they had kids.
>>578926458TrTr really doesn't go into detail the further we go into ancient history. We don't know if Fat Snake and Big Angel were always their current forms when they gained sentience, or started off as globes of glowing lights that needed time to cook in the oven before they could interact with the physical world.
>>578926865The ancestors never act like any of the monster girls they are the progenitor for are their offspring. The main rationalization for this is the ancestors made them via magic. Like we see succubi and kitsune turned from humans and animals
>>578927042Succubi are weird cuz like the sabbath exists was that always a thing or are they never gonna explain how that started.
>>578925576Your waifus are all SLUTS!!!
>>578927249Wait there's 7 here who the fuck is that one down the bottom?
>>578927249Why do people keep thinking j mean the ancestors are pure virgins who have never seen a penis when I say most of them dont have kids. Having kids seems to be a really big thing for monsters and the ancestors never seemed like they settled down, thats it. That's all I'm saying. Even saja only had alice the third because of special circumstances
>>578926458>when the fuck was Alice and Ilias madewhen eight universe end and ninth universe begin after time passed ala big bang this is why she never calls them her children or offspring or anything of the sort, all Daughter of Chaos does is mock them as "lesser, inferior Goddesses" because their power is not comparable to hers. Hence her also (attempting) to call Lucifina her Grandmom before they put a stop to that idea. The will of chaos would technically be the actual parent of Alice and Ilias, insomuch as a non-sentient function of the fabric of reality can be considered as one. It's not really made clear how their origin story went, but it's not very important in the grand scheme of things I guess.However you've now made me realize that technically by virtue of how FOC works, the will of chaos is now inside of Luka too, in addition to Chaos.So this non-sentient all-powerful cosmic force can now partake in the twelve spirit theme park in his brain.It can't enjoy it since it can't really feel anything, but the idea itself is still hilarious.
>>578913442Lmao based. As expected from the goddess that made rape legal.
>>578927249>>578927412ANON SPOILERS AAAAAAAA
>>578926293See: >>578927249Three days and three nights are the same amount of time Cucklice mated with Luka to make the incest flattie and the obsessive edgelord. I think that's quite the hint as to what is her purpose when having sex.
>>578927771Still nothing official. I like the idea that Saja did find a guy she thought worthy enough to father the murder harpy. The fact that he would survive having sex with a being that is many times stronger than Alice 16th is praise worthy.TrTr really should just answer some of these questions.
>Alice proud thinking the Master also has a daughter
Honestly the timeline of saja having alice the third makes no sense. We knew she had her for the purpose of continuing the bloodline due to being sealed but when the fuck did she find time to do any of that shit
>>578928045In this case the ML dynasty is super young, only being around 1000 years old. Saja only popped out a kid when Ilias' victory was assured, either through threat of global annihilation, or by science angel death wave.
Saja being alice the second also breaks down the concept of certain ancestors for certain monster girls because they just have all of the genes inside of them anyways so who cares
>>578924883>>578926115>Hild's plan was to raise her with love and he torpedoed it before she even got to start. Which was honestly his biggest moron moment>The problem was that Dear Ol' Dad filled her heart with fear and hate and that made her susceptible to the will insteadNo idea what you’re talking about. At most Luka expresses minor doubt about his rather ambiguous plan(which everyone agreed is uncertain) and only starts prioritising “defeating” over “talking” after seeing how non negotiable and shitty chaos’ apostles are. If anything this makes Hilde either inept in her parenting, or insufficient. That or chaos is just an asshole who decided to tunnel vision onto her father’s minor fears about a powerful deity born from an equally powerful force of nature rather than his hope for, at the very least, dialogue and communication. This reads like you’re deliberately interpreting anything and everything to blame Luka
>>578927412You know what, fuck it. Here's who that is:
>>578928439She didn't. If you compare their appearances and remember the fact that the MLs reside in the continent that most likely used to have the most males with monster genes, it becomes pretty obvious that the purpose of the ML's bloodline was to gather genes until they recreated something that was as close to Alice I as possible.
>>578928123Pfft, yeah, as if it was HER who raised Neris...Fucking bum.
>>578929063No one ever brings that up as a stated guideline. That wouldnt be something unsaid that you would have to unravel as deeplore because it would be one of the top goals of the monster lord(and something done a hell of a lot faster than 16 generations) The truth is that saja was simply never meant to be alice the second. She was supposed to be her own ancestor but that got cut in favor of koron. Since saja was the snake she just became alice the second instead
>>578928458Perhaps. That could be fair. I don't really hate Luka, I kinda go back and forth on him, I just got fed up with him a lot in that route. But the idea that he instilled in her was what led to the outcome. That's made pretty clear in the game, particularly the ending. Had he not vocally stated his doubts and willingness to kill her if he needed to, she wouldn't have been filled with paranoia and fear and succumbed to the will.I think trtr did try to throw Luka under the bus for what happens a bit too much by the end though. I don't think everything is literally his fault, since it's not like he meant for that to happen and Chaos is still responsible and accountable for her actions as well, but the game sure seemed like it wanted me to blame Luka more at the ending cutscene.>Hildshe didn't really get to try, Chaos hijacked her body.
>>578928529this but unironically
>>578929573Half of the shit said in there isnt even true
I reject your canon and supplement my own>kill chaos>skip cutscene>no cringe>save the day
>>578929448hild doesnt even fight back when chaos gives her control back in the h-scene hild just rapes luka her priorities are fucked.
>>578929714reality is now tearing itself apart even harder due to your stupidity.
PUT ON THE FUCKING HERO OUTFIT METAMO BECOME A BOY METAMO.Seriously tho i need to get better at drawing on the sideways poses.. i need practice.
>>578929880nope. sorry. don't create a self-fulfilling prophecy next time. reality is fixed
>>578930213dude forgot the entire lore of what he killed.
>>578930701>reject cringe unsatisfying lore>replace with based satisfying lorethis is not 'forgetting', it is 'improving'
>>578930701The lore? Anon im writing the story now. Its my lore. And my lore says that Luka one punches chaos and then Alice and illias suck his dicj as luka becomes God emperor of mankind and kills all the monster girls for being filthy xenos while wielding an epic flaming super death sword
>>578931010cant believe luka killed the person sucking his dick.>>578930869play a different game dude.
>>578929323>No one ever brings that up as a stated guideline.Tamamo made a literal rule that MLs can only marry someone stronger than them, which disqualifies almost everyone who doesn't have the genes of some powerful monster. This was after Black Alice was defeated and her weaker sister that probably had worse genes among the two took over.>That wouldnt be something unsaid that you would have to unravel as deeplore>Implying TRTR understands thatNow THIS is an big assumption.>because it would be one of the top goals of the monster lord (and something done a hell of a lot faster than 16 generations)Someone practically made gathering strong monster genes a rule. As for why it has taken them so long, well considering how it took until the 14th for some consistency in their appearance and gene-picking is one of the 1st's main abilities, chances are their gene-picking abilities didn't become good enough until her. Also, let's face it, the Monster Lord are not very competent...
>>578929448>Had he not vocally stated his doubts and willingness to kill her if he needed to, she wouldn't have been filled with paranoia and fear and succumbed to the will.That just sounds really unfair. Chaos as Luka knew it didn’t even exist yet as far as he could tell. How could he have expected her to be able to hear him let alone feel things? That’s like trying to say feeling uncertain about whether something bad will happen makes someone culpable when something bad happens which is ridiculous. And if Chaos was that powerful could she not have just talked with her mom and dad? Luka would’ve gladly listened and sheathed his sword if his (from his perspective) first impression of chaos wasn’t her trying to blow up all three worlds. Fault and causation are different
>>578931231Tamamo made that a rule to (somehow) stop another black alice from appearing it had nothing to do with some kind of super plan to create a new alice the first where the fuck are you getting this from
>>578931178trtr bombed it right at the finish line, how about "no" and I just enjoy it my way
>>578925754The Hot Topic Rabbit is her desire to end the worldSony is her desire to be close to himCleopatra Adramelech the 420th is her desire to protect (read: kill) himThe troon is her fangirling over him/heroesThe snowbunny is... her being crazy and a bitch in general?
>>578932094that line with adra that makes sense as she fucking literally tries killing him to prevent him going UOOOH CHAOS CUNNY BUNNY when koron happens.
>>578931979Guaranteed your fanfiction'd sound criinge duude.
>>578932425I would love for you to defend to me the state of the postgame and how fucking FUBAR and utterly destroy the world is because trtr decided to rugpull even that. So the only world Luka cannot fix or save in any way is literally the one you fought the entire game to save in the first place. Your reward is a ruined planet where all but five towns are utterly destroyed or going completely insane and WW3 is about to start over your dick and get most people killed anyways.You know what anon?How about I just have the planet I actually like back?Is the singularity world you spent most of the game in "cringe" to you? What are you, retarded?
>>578931457>where the fuck are you getting this fromLogic? Because that sure as hell isn't stopping a new black alice. And don't tell me Tamamo couldn't have possibly being lying. We know she was a manipulative bitch before she was sealed, this rule was made soon after she "escaped" and I obviously she wouldn't tell them, "your failed our eugenics project that is your bloodline, so I'll be taking over it from now on".
>>578932731Trtr was forced to rugpull the postgame and is now spending another 8 years working on it due to a poll telling him to get paradox part 3 out already. This has been stated before multitudes of times.
>>578929573Everything of the gems said in there is true.
>>578901667Yeah, the crazy face is an important part of her. The little uncanny goes a long way.
>>578932990I'm aware. I don't care. I would've rather it been further delayed than the dogshit ending we actually got, but maybe the delay would've actually made it even worse somehow.I think my desire to say "fuck this" and torch the cringe sad violins not-very-sympathetic daughtru to just go back and be able to restore and save the place I like is perfectly justifiable. Hell even if he DID release the postgame you think he's actually gonna fix the planet? There's nothing left TO save. It's completely fucked beyond repair. And utterly revolting, too. And constantly being swarmed by interdimensional travelers on top of that.Luka let his own world be fucked over because he suddenly loses all humanity, no longer cares and just couldn't be assed.
>>578928529wasnt there another edit of this
>>578921427Did you enjoy the mushrooms?>>578922973Luka is really tired of people being dumb.
>>578932784No it wasn't? The rule was made nearly 500 years after she escaped. She escaped soon after the sealing happened on fatlice's orders and only intervened 500 years later. This entire theory hinges on a very specific interpretation of a very weird rule and ignores that no one brings this up ever including tamamo
>>578933416Absolutely based and redpilled Anon.I miss the old world so much bros...
>>578928529There's the colored versionThere was also some retard going all reddit tldr with an edit it seems no one saved that tried to get all Ackshually on the humor
>>578934067Those were made by the same guy iirc.
It's totally fine because there's glitches that let you go back to the singularity world and I don't think he patched all of them out yet so therefore you save the world and go back home and fall into your bed and Good End get some sleep at last.What happens in-game > everything else, if we're back home and the world is saved then we're back home and the world is saved.I'm happy we managed to bring it back, but still, please fix the chaos world in NG++, trtr.
I should learn how to draw chaos as actual monstergirls. she can prolly do it she's a god.
>always semen>honest man happy
>>578935838I understand how Priestess feel. I hate this world too. Give me back the old one. It was beautiful. It was soulful.
>>578938819Priestess set fires in the old one. I think she just hates forests
>>578940156As she should!
If Kanon didnt have the guro people would just view her as a brat.
are there any other games like mgqp? i have a bit less than 200 hours total across two saves and wondering if there will be any other super long rpgmaker or rpg games like this once im done
>>578945098dude this game took like 12 years to get this big your probably out of luck if any for h-games.
>>578945098Sadly, no. MGQP is a miracle in itself despite it's flaws.....Why does she has a cut on her tit?...
>>578945195then is there any chance for golden route to be done within this year or next (not counting translation)?
>>578945318probably within the next 3 years. keep in mind after golden route+rest of the postgame trtr is gonna redo the loc.
>>578945315>despite it's flawswhat would you say are its flaws?
>>578945315Nevermind her opponent actually having spikes on her appendages, it is a classic top-level martial arts trope to be able to throw strikes as sharp as blades. Well, she could also just be doing the same as Astaroth and form claws from her aura.
>>578945596It trades character writing for cool worldbuilding and powerscaling moments. Not that there’s a complete lack of cool character writing based moments
>>578927249>Dragon >Paralyze himwouldn't it be the other way around? just eat her out and the "stronk and mighty" dragon race will just melt in your arms
>>578949874is breaking limbs considered paralysis?
Not panicking for once I see.
>>578867847Give one of them a big futa cock and put them together
Jesus Chrome.
Yay! Not dead for once!
>>578951229Fun fact dead is dead oneshots all undead.
Spoken by God herself everyone!
>>578951564And everyone does the same so...I love my non hypocritical goddess! I think
>Realization that Micaela wants to plap her sister's son even through her sister lives inside her now>Horror sets in that her sister is probably down for it tooWhy is this franchise so damn incest heavy? Luka's cousins wanna fuck him, his daughters wanna fuck him, his aunts wanna fuck him, his grandma wants to fuck him, his kinda sisters wanna fuck him incest incest everywhere!
>>578951229>"I'm just struggling enough with regular zombies"Lazarus, my brother, what the fuck are you taling about. You could eat zombies for breakfeast.>>578951334Extremely cool CG.No Life King was ugly though.
Ooh. Lazarus knows something!
>>578956109Femdom eroge.
>>578956207Lazarus is unironically the unsung hero of the game.
Now there's a VERY important japanese name.>>578956109>My bread is too buttery>My sushi too savoury>my cake too sweet
>>578933669>The rule was made nearly 500 years after she escaped.Yes, specifically after the 8th ML had to be replaced with the weaker 9th one, so the bloodline lost powerful genes and needed to make up for it.
>>578951564If god says it then it is right.
Monster Girls would lose in an actual war because humans will just have sex and keep the meatwaves coming but monster girls will grow weary and will burn through their sperm savings eventually.
>>578956305>Turns out kokka here is a family of the yamatai boomers!
>>578951564>Muh history is written by the winnersNips lost WW2 to the US and Russia, yet most people outside of China remember them getting nuked and not their endless amount of war crimes.
>>578956991It's funny how they turned the narrative by playing the victims. Funny and disgusting.
>>578956691It's still so weird to me that this is supposed to be Amaterasu. Nothing about her says sun goddess, she doesn't resemble any of her sacred animals, she barely even resembles the usual artistic depictions of the goddess. They even call her an earth goddess in the game.
>>578957612The only thing she has is an obscure piece of lore that her name, Himiko, is one of the name of Amaterasu.
>>578951270This but for Alma and Berry.
>>578957148The nips couldn't do that without support from the USA.
I will just say that threads are a lot better when there isn't anyone to dump their entire playtrough, sending general into bump limit within hours. How did that even become a norm, to the point where at least two anons have done it at the same time.
>>578959167And I obviously don't mean anons that dump TD collab, which is somewhat exclusive content most people won't have access to, so it's perfectly understandable and will basically be a lost media within a year unless you wish to dig trough archives.
>>578958807Yeah, but for example China was also technically on the winning side and they HATE that the japs could get away with all that shit.And even if it was to the US government's benefit, since it helped deal with the anti-japanese sentiment at a time where they really wanted Japan as an "ally", it doesn't change the fact that it makes the americans look bad, while sweeping japanese dirt under the rug.
>>578951270This but for Pisslias and Cucklice.
>>578959573It also doesn't change the fact that the victors(USA) wrote that history, now nobody mentioned anything about the victors having long-term foresight or intelligence.
>>578959573Meanwhile, the german looks bad.
Ooh? Now who might this be?
>>578960526It's Goku The Hedgehog.
>KoronAllipheese has no dialogue for this. How surprising.
>Every single elf member has dialogue for Angolomosis>meanwhile lazarus
>>578960653No no. Her name is Colon.
>>578960792I can't wait for Lazarus to become SSJesus Lazarus God UI.Or something, bro deserves it.
Oh wow. Metal cg.
>>578960956FUCKING JOBBER ELF!
Hmmm. No useful skills at all it seems.
>>578961090https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>578961059It's great for characters that can use multiple race skills, but not for anyone else.So it's basically tailor made for Hiruko, if you want to make her use of something else other than Tentacles, but still being able to use them.
>>578961209https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
Oh wow that looks creepy.
Aaaaand here comes another 16th calamity!
Oh EW.
>>578956691I do wonder if Izanagi was supposed to be another of Ilias' planned royal family project. It sounds a lot like Sabasa only for Yamatai, and Izanagi and his wife did find the island of Japan in real world mythology.
Oh jeez. She's a turn spammer ain't she.
>>578963151Hiruko having a woman moment.Now prepare for the next and final round of Vore Fetish, the Characters!>>578964368She's all about them race skills.
>>578959896>the victors(USA) wrote that historyChina was also a victor yet they didn't.>>578960242Not exactly... First off, a lot of their war criminals managed to get away with everything they did, because they successfully pushed the narrative that it was actually all conveniently only the fault of Hitler and the rest of the krauts that were either dead or prisoners in the USSR and they were totally among the good ones. They also successfully pushed various nazi propaganda about how they were totally a superpower and not at all a paper tiger that threw away the most of its power pointlessly trying to beat its major oil exporter, only boosted by a lot of Hitler's survivng generals coping that would have totally won the war if it wasn't for that meddling dumb Hitler, and his blondie too. All these are narratives that persist to this day.
Can you shove your polshit somewhere else?
>>578963284Why is Hiruko such fucking washboard when both of her biological moms have big tits ?
The appearance was kinda obvious, but damn. To think the cute little slug girls were descended from THIS.
Kek.
>>578965482Legit crashout.
Oh?
>>578965157Sure, but they are still seen as "the bad guys".>>578965332Your ancestor is a disgusting monster made from another monster. How do ya like it?
Toro, your giantess fetish is showing.
>>578965620>>578965758Yeah, that part was weird. Like, really really weird. It's Trtr's magical realm to kill all magical realms.
>>578965863Honestly unironic KINO. I just wanted to joke about it.
>>578965863Giant hiruko isn't even the most magical realm thing in chaos route much less the whole ass game
>>578965940I dsiliked it, it felt really weird to me. But you do you! Enjoy it. Hiruko is a fucking flattie though, and that's a FACT.
>>578965697Slug genocide when?Purupuru supremacy!
>Turns out the whole legend of the Beelzebubs was fake. It was supposed to be the legend of Alipheese crushing the gestalt hivemind in its infancy.
>>578966291It takes a lot of baals to forget that kind important details.
>>578965157>China was also a victor yet they didn't.China was a survivor if anything and they don't exactly write your textbooks.
>>578961059a man of terrible judgment and taste, unfortunately
>>578966573To be fair, you have to be a massive loser to try and learn Chinese.
>>578967254Nobody in my team really uses racial skills nor has a status that really relies on racial skills. Just how it is.
>>578966291This is the reason I believe insect monsters were a byproduct of this Hivemind invading the world, and why they have no Ancestor.
>>578951270This but for Subilias and Fatlice. Those two deserve each other...
The hat overload is useful at least.
>>578967326its objectively fantastic, as it is, that is all.
>Plant work culture is so bad even KANON is horrified at it
>>578966291retcon ahoy!
>>578967547Nightingale's Divine Medicine is pretty neat.
>>578967684Of course she does, she never actually worked.>>578967758No no, we call that the UNRELIABLE NARRATOR. Not retcon. Totally different.
>All healer is fucking RACE LOCKEDFuck's sake.
>>578968148oh yeah, I forgot that.I guess, foreshadowing? Maybe?
Interesting. So she's sort of like that queen bee type who gets too wrapped up in school trends, crowd mentality and is scapegoated when a serious incident happens. She's still innately cruel and I would still put a bullet in her if it comes to it. But I feel a little bit for her. If anything I find it a little funny at how the upper noble plant monsters you recruit are suddenly so eager to distance themselves from Kanon when they talk of not being able to digest humans like some minor gossip
Kek. Not even Kanon likes gabriKEKla
>>578968874Not everyone of her subordinates enjoyed or supported it, they were just too afraid to stand up to her because of her temper. Considering she was going to kill the plant girls who failed to stop you she would’ve likely killed anyone who rained on her parade too.
>>578967418Hiruko is their ancestor, Bub came from her
>>578969174>Not everyone of her subordinates enjoyed or supported it, they were just too afraid to stand up to her because of her temper.Oh no I know that. I said the UPPER noble plant monsters that you've recuited. Rosa and that venus flytrap one. The weaker plant monsters weren't even allowed in her garden
>>578968874I don't feel bad for her, but Kanon has a certain depth to herself. She has no idea what morality is, or why what she did was wrong. She just wanted to be liked and did it like THAT.Of course, it doesn't change the fact that she is a sadistic freak, that many plant monsters are just the same, and that she didn't care until everything the curtain was raised...>upper noble plant monstersDon't forget that it's not just plant monsters that enjoyed her arts.Though it draws an interesting paralel with the Sams, SOME plants didn't want to do what they did, but like with Gabriella, doing anything but following Kanon's orders would have been death or worse.Total Plant Reputation Death. GG.>>578969074Now WHY Gabriella is somehow worse than Kanon, I have no idea. Led astray my ass.
>>578951270This but for Sara and Sonya. (No guesses as to who gets the cock...)
Who is the strongest monster girl and why is it seaweed girl
Ayyy Heinrich!
>>578964368This is a time to note that Tentacle skills have an ability to make them activate even more times per activation.Hiruko caused a change that sped up turns... since the full thing was like 108 attacks per turn.>>578968148It's the only race locked job, it's stupid.
>>578970728That's where the whole Stats are not reduced when dividing, comes to play.Plus the 50% chance.
>>578969394>Now WHY Gabriella is somehow worse than Kanon, I have no idea.MW bias by TRTR.
Not a bad design. I like it.
>>578951270This but for Tamamo and Tamamo.
>Baal tries to merge with Luka>In a last ditch effort, Alipheese forces it to merge with priestess instead>Baal immediately develops depression
>>578971284she’s a backstabbing traitor of course she’s worseShe betrayed her entire army to Hiruko mid-war to help Kanon and then planned to kill Kanon later
>Baal has become a hikkomori
>>578971789>backstabbing is worse than massmurder and tortureCan't cure retardation.
>>578971745>>578971917Best Girl
KEK.
>>578971745>>578971917One of the best moment of the game.She should consider herself lucky, if she has merged with Luka, it could have gone very wrong. For her.
KEEEEEEEEEK
>>578972007She did those too you retard
I think the angels are better
>>578972975Same, They're so cute and hard working. I also feel bad for lewding them
>Raphaela remarks that she always thought that Michaela would ditch the dominion second>Micaela asks who would ditch it first>picrel>Similar convo happens with LucyRaphaela BEST GIRL, it seems her embellishing the dominion in part 2 was just lip service, nobody thinks Sub illias is worth serving
>>578973342>Raphaela BEST GIRLFucking finally. Anon saw the Light!
>>578973342Angels are good girls through and through
>>578970728Taking 5 whole minutes to get through 1 Hiruko turn is one of the chaos routes rites of passage.
>The all knowing contacts me to let me know walpurgis is coming up>10 of the 13 top mages are members in my partyKEK
The towers of light and dark.
>>578974453Did sombody say darkness
>>578974453Oh this is gonna be fun. Enjoy FF5!
Oh jeez. She ATE UP that survival of the fittest crack.
>>578974961It's almost like having your parent reinforce it for your entire life leads to you wholeheartedly believing it
>>578975074Alipheese doesn't disagree.
>>578975146Ah, she is starting the circular talk again.
>>578975146I get she's sad about it but that doesn't make it any less hyper dumb. Especially since she essentially learned nothing
>Saja is utterly baffled at why Minagi developed such a powerful technique to kill herKEK
>>578975339>the fault is mine>it's not my fault>repeat step 1
>>578975337>>578975339Eh. Her sentiment about goddesses not interacting with the world remains true, it's just that she forgot to take responsibility for her remaining kids. Not like there was anyone to teach her how to be a good parent to begin with
>>578975529That line's horseshit though "augh the godess has NO RIGHT to rule over people, so instead i'm just gonna have all my my daughters who are loyal to me and follow my principles rule in my stead" fuck off
>>578975529She forgot to take responsility, in general.
>>578975629You haven't really made a new point. Like I said, she forgot to take responsibility.
>>578975529You are forgetting her sister, who is standing right there. If Fatty had just gone to Ilias, she would have been given the pep talk to stop being a debbie downer.
>>578975719I'm contesting her sentiment about goddesses not interacting with the world. You cant just say that and have the people who were created directly from you and are loyal to you and have your principles installed and love you unconditionally rule instead. Alice NEVER stopped ruling in MW, she just pretends like she doesn't
>>578974453>>578974858Is he prepared for... those things...
>>578976047Don't speak of Them. Let Them appear on Their own.
>>578975975Demiurge moment
>>578976121Is "anon" ready for "that" to "happen"
>>578976181It can't be helped.
>>578975865>Illias>>578975975I imagine Alipheese had a very simplistic view: that being you directly interfere or you don't. It's the difference between a worshipper of God interacting with the world and the God themself changing things. Doesn't change that she went about it rather stupidly but seeing as she was in a heartbroken state with nobody but the polar opposite of her to talk to I can really only pity her.
>>578976121They are perfect. I hope He will love Them.
>>578976365I mean I'm not saying what she's doing is out of character, anon. I'm saying I dislike how the story never calls Alice out on the fact that she's moral grandstanding on a position that has no weight to it. She wants to have her cake and eat it too. Illias gets rightfully called out for being a huge bitch but Alice gets treated with a much lighter hand. I don't even think the ancestors care about the Koron stuff despite being mindwiped
>>578975629Don't forget the part where she immediately made another danger to all existence immediately after Koron was gone.
>>578977075I'm saving this pic, but I'll thank you for it. I got manners and shit!
Do correct me if this seems too edgy and to be clear i'm not some kind of anti MW schizo. But I think it would've been nice if to contrast Illias's family gaining some trust back in her as she does her character arc. Alice's family losing trust in her as all the secret's she's kept comes to light and the thought that never actually being there for your kids is just another type of abuse compared to actively abusing them like Illias did. The Hiruko stuff was a nice microcosm of that.
>>578976589>She wants to have her cake and eat it too.I mean, not really? While political power still does effectively reside in her hands she has no desire for to use it for anything, as practically meaningless as that sentiment is. It's an error on the level of an inept monarch, humanlike retardation which I can accept since she doesn't claim to be a goddess.
>>578977345Neat idea!
Kek. A slimefag to the end.
>>578977489I think a nice ending would be her having to like, actively be there for her kids and do stuff like participate in the rehabilitation of Kanon. Stuff like that. It's fine that Alice doesn't want to be a Goddess, but her not being a mother is inexcusable
>>578977359my issue is it feels like Alice is trying to hide behind the premise of "I don't want to be a goddess" to run away from all of her problems that are not exclusive to being a goddess. It's perfectly fine if she doesn't want to rule the world or control the population. But everything all of the problems I have with her have nothing to do with her not wanting to be a goddess.
>>578977829Well I've already agreed with you on that part. She forgot to be a mom for her remaining kids.
>>578977649Her retirement is taking responsibility for Hiruko to make sure she doesn't accidentally another town again, at least.Kanon can just figure it out on her own though lol
the consequences of your actions!
>>578977938I know, yeah. I'm just saying that I don't even buy the base layer of her justifications of "I retreated becasue I don't deserve to be a god" feels like using grand morals to make herself look better when all she's doing is running away from her problems and using the thin veneer of "this is punishment" to make herself look the moral superior to illias
>>578977359>While political power still does effectively reside in her hands she has no desire for to use it for anythingHer daughters used it for what they believed was her desires (or at least thing they thought she was ok with) and she oh so conveniently never bothered to correct them. So little difference.
>>578978438Like I said. Little practical difference.
>Enter the puppet tower>Backup kagetsumugi appears>shes so well made that she developed an ego, and now wants to replace the former kagetsumugiKEK
>>578978171NTA but that's doing the bare minimum whiles using it as an excuse to do even less
>>578978623I think the issue here is that the story doesn't really consider this and we're supposed to take her at her word that she's no longer a goddess and doesn't really control anything. The setup is there to really make Illias and Alice truly just two sides of the same coin but I really just don't think they go far enough with Alice
>>578978938I know it's suppoed to be funny, and it is, but it's also frustrating how she's acting.
>>578979074NTA but that's the case with a lot of the monsters
>>578960653HEY, THIS MF GOT THEM FAKE WINGS!!!
>>578979573how does koron even put on that bodystocking
>>578979573Lame ass dragon.
>>578979637Don't overthink it, or Karen, or Samus, or DQ Priests
>>578979637It manifests in response to the people's yearning for over-clothes paizuri
>>578979573Best chunni dragon
>>5789797311 more thing she has in common with a certain lizard boy...
>>578979573She doesn't even study the blade
>>578980669she studied the blade and the spear!
>>578979573>>578980571Just realized she's doesn't even have monstrous hands and scaly ears like Alma's pet gecko. And her horns are just a mix of Morrigan's and Astaroth's. This bitch is a walking humiliation ritual for dragons.
Dragon Awooga
>>578981610Why is she pink? Is she an albino?
>>578981420To be fair that can be explained on the fact that shiki doesn't really do monstrous monster girls
>>578981420And yes she still made people who claimed to dislike her have lovey dovey sex dreams about her......she truly is the strongest!>>578981663Well, her mom is purple, and she had a kid who was neon green, so it's not that out of place
>>578981610Titlet.
>>578981861I don't think Granberia is actually related to Koron in any way. I don't think Koron actually had any descendants. I can barely imagine that autist fucking much less having kids
>>578982056god I wish I liked dragon maid, top tier designs wasted on a kind of eh slice of life series
>>578982059>I can barely imagine that autist fuckingCan you also not imagine Chad losing?>>578927249
>>578980571Stupid disgusting larpers!
>>578982059anon I'm talking about KANON, Alice I has a daughter greener than shrek, so Koron having a very light shade of purplish-pink doesn't really seem that weird
>>578982292Everyone is required to be capable of femdom rape because this is the femdom rape game. I'm aware it exists, doesn't mean it's super congruent with how they act in game.>>578982402She's green for an amazing reason
>>578982059She knows what sex is and considers it "something we do AFTER the battle" ala a food or different kind of fight. She also blushes when she says this.
>>578982056I should watch this. I bounced off after season 1.
>>578981749>monstrous monster girlsAnon, Berry's not that monstrous.
>>578982643give her a small snout and she'd be outright furry
>>578982523i'm aware she fucks lukaI still consider her having sex weird. Especially considering she's way more likely to just kill you after fighting you. She doesn't tend to hold back. Except for Luka he's the exception I guess
>>578959167>>578959297Because it generates discussion and for most people sharing their playthroughs is fun to do. I don't really mind it as long as the anons doing it are willing to engage with discussion about it and interact with the rest of the thread.
>>578982767>Make her a furry and she'd be outright furryShe has plenty of human skin, with the exception of her eyes her face is human and her body structure is overall humanoid with the exception of her tail. She isn't what some would call "cosplay-tier" but she's far from a furry. Neris is more monstrous than her.
>>578983627you say it like the line between furry and human isn't literally just a few triangles on colored skin at random points and a snout. That furry chart thing has always been wrong, 100% of what makes something furry or not is having a snout. IE tanuki girl
>>578983849>100% of what makes something furry or not is having a snout.This is just something early monster girl fans say to draw an arbitrary line so they can say they aren't furries.
>>578984025No it's just legitimately the only thing that matters. Remove the snout and the "fur" is actually just colored skin. Add a snout, now it's fur. Half the time you don't even get the triangles to suggest that it's fur, just the snout is there to imply it is.
>>578984132>>578982056Those claws are just colored skin?
>>578984328I'm not even talking about granberia anymore, i'm just talking about the furry/monster girl split
>>578984405Put her on the chart, anon.
>>578984714>normal noseMonster girl
>>578984714>>578984772Someone should draw a literal fox but with a human nose instead, The it won't be feral/furry.
>>578983482I get what you mean but it's effectively opposite to effortposting, where you fling shit at the wall and hoping something gets traction.>>578982643I will support other anon and will say that Berry is a weird one. She is nowhere near "barely human monstergirl" level, yes. But, at least, about half of her body is that of a monster she represents, which is a great feat compared to overwhelming majority of humanoid monstergirls.
>>578984714Oogumo was made for teasing and bullying>Ask her to do tasks that require hands>Gift her items that require multiple fingers
I really do think that acting like being more of the monster = more furry is a bit of a weird thing to go for when most furries look more human(head aside) than a lot of monster girls, honestly. That one cat girl from gamoverse is literally just an anime catgirl with brown skin if you remove her snout
Bitching about nothing award
>>578971376Abdomen underside not booby enough, no nipples. Failure of a fly monster.
>earlier people talking about angel world like those old discussions before part 3 released that derailed entire threads>now we're back to the same arguments about furry beat by beat ("just a snout", "monster girls are practically furry","look at the spider")/mggg/ truly is a dystopia.
You know, if the whole beelzebub legend of Alice sealing the bubs away because they were dangerous was actually a corruption of the hive mind myth. Why exactly were the bubs sealed away? You'd think someone would just kill them and not bother
>>578989095Their are millions of them and they blow out guys asses to have kids. If there is any monster girl that would unite the rest, it's that one. You can't work the fox fields if you have to wear a diaper.
Why did Ilias make so many short angels with huge tits if she only has normal sized tits? Is she stupid?
>>578990513Do you consider anything under head sized normal sized
If they're smaller than her head, she can't possibly be a human.
>>578990585YeaIlias doesn't look out of place in terms of size to people I see on a daily basis
>>578988984Being a monster girl fan is suffering. I want more games like mushroom musume. And i want a monster girl wizardry clone
>>578990513
Kinda odd how TRTR went for the Enoch version of the Archangel group but replaced Raguel and Remiel with the kabbalistic archangels Sandalphon and Metatron.
>>578992536Metatron is just the more popular one because of shin megami tensei
Whos the mgg equivalent of mastema?
>>578992895Raphaela
You know, whenever I search the archives I find some pic that:1.Makes me ask: "Why?" And...2.I get the gut feeling one you motherfuckers is responsible for.Example:
>>578993298Is this trap male luka or female luka? This is important
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninetail/venusblood-lagoon-english-localisation-projectFor anyone interested, this is now happening. Dragon Girl Game.
>>578993298Gay image. I prefer the one where Nero, Luka and Heinrich are taking cock from their futa monster wives and sisters
Should have revealed Neris had half-sisters from her world for maximum Alice cuckoldry
>>578994017TrTr would never do that.He will give us AU daughters, but Alice will stay the winner for the VN.
>>578994181>winnerThe existence of the alternative timelines automatically means she's no more a winner than anyone else anyway. Besides, how does she win if she doesn't get to enjoy her fetish?
Angel Soldier C is the winner
>>578993772I predict the dog girl will be best girl just like last time
>>578992506>>578992536>>578994880HeavenlyTITTYALLDAYEVERYDAY
>>578977075missing eden
>>578870092Are we sure these angels are from Heaven and not from Alabama?
>>578993512I have been jumpscared on pixiv by this before. It's trap Luka>>578993959>Nero>WifeAnon, our son is dying bitchless...
>>578996601>Anon, our son is dying bitchless...But he's taking futa cock like the rest of us
>>578996601>its trap LukaHoly based. I kneel
>>578996341Alabama? Don't worry, they're not from there. They're from Rhode Island.
>that battlefucker elf in EnrikaYou can't convince me it's not actual third sister to Micaela/Lucifina. That eye color. That hair color/style. She looks like third sister more than Eden ever will. Everyone are probably bullshiting Eden to not upset her about being 4th.
Glad to see Metamo's detransitioning is going smoothly.
>>578999215I know I'm ruining the joke, but the reason Eden (and other angels) look so different is because they were made via a different process. Eden was the first of these, and got to be considered a sister to Micaela and Lucfina, the ones that came after, it seems not.
>>579000856>Even Ilias calls her thirdMan poor Eden
>>579001273Prototype mass production angel.She should feel honored to be given a single digit number.
Being a mass produced angel sounds fun
>>578967326Can't you use triple racial chain and have the mermaid heal 100% MP in a turn?
>>579001428>Prototype mass production angel.I wouldn't call Eden that, i remember Ilias saying "Eden giving birth to more angels"
Asking again and this time articulating my question properly: is there some trick for Bonding up with monster girls in SHRIFT?I guess I can farm like crazy and buy a ton of gifts but that feels inefficient at least and time consuming at worst. At very least I want to speed up Iron Maiden and maybe Empuse.
Lucifina jumpscare
>>579004228Check the last thread you asked, some replied late about the dream farming which is pretty fast compared to buying them. Only thing is that I don't know if Empuse and Iron Maiden like the gifts you can get in Chapter 1 and might have to do the first enemy of Chapter 2
Is shrift 2 good
>>579005462It's shrift.
>>579005462It's mechanically a better game but it doesn't have Luka and Alice so it's just okay.
>>579005462Its better than shrift 1 and appreciate that. As an ero game its counterintuitive though because its a big pain to get any of the bad endings because you have to go to the hotel and let a girl drain you of all your levels, which will take multiple days if your max level like me, and you have to sit through the same draining animation, and when your done gooning your left with an autosaved level 1 richard, have fun leveling yourself back up for the next 30 minutes. If you want to watch full h scenes you have to be level 1 and the level is seperate from the save so you can't just reload to an ealier save afterwards and be high level again, you'll load back at level 1. There are grinding methods and multipliers but its a pain
Oh also my richard has the hecate slave permanant status. It doesn't do anything because its just for a cameo dream mechanic where richard puts a thing under his pillow and he gets fucked in his dream by a correpsonding girl, including young mormo thats neat, but i have come to regret my decisions.
Shrift 2 also reinforces that the world of shrift also just has normal demons, as one of the dudes in the background lore is a smt protag who summons demons and gets in a fight with one of his researcher friends who doesn't respect the time and effort the shonen dude put into forging his bonds with his demons. shonen guy was also the main antagonist of shrift's older brother, and pressumably his death was what caused her to become disillusioned with humanity and try to use kazuya to destroy the world. Turns out she's a massive brocon
>>579004228Check the reply here >>578840912If you don't want to farm dreams your only other choice is getting lucky while fighting Mother Rabbit but it's slower..>>579005060Most demons like gems while the rest like meat instead, and almost everyone likes alcohol.Nobody likes rocks but it increases their friendship by 5 points, and every other items gives 20 points.
>>579005060>>579008175Thanks bro
>>578960956if you lose to angolmoise you can steal koron's stuff btw.
I actually know a lot of shrift 2 lore. The 3 doctors, lilith richard's past, the fact that nina is a glorified battery and IS THE DAUGHTER OF LILITH INSEMINATED WITH SHONEN GUY'S SEMEN BY THE EVIL DOCTOR WITHOUT SHONEN GUYS KNOWLEDGE you and richard are led to believe that he is the evil doctor with amnesia, but it turns out that he's actually the third good doctor who saved shonen guy and bodyswapped with evil doctor, evil doctor is the one guy in the hospital mental ward that M.O.W. sent slime bitch to kill/silence.
>>578992506Eden is the strongest. Eden could probably beat Lucifina if she didn't hold back because she doesn't want to hurt her dear sister.
>>579008592About that, is VN full power Eden stronger than rusty Micaela? Are rusty Micaela from the VN and from Paradox equals?
>>578979573Minagi has fake wings too and you know why this picture likely means we are to engage with that kind of thing with koron in ng++ battlefucking
>>579008806I feel like trying to powerscale mgq is a fools errand
>>579008806>from paradoxNo. Paradox goes full battle shonen and doesn't scale with the vn at all. Its better to keep them seperate
>>579008806Paradox Micaela died to Gnosis which means she either didn't have Sword of the Heavens or wanted to lose that fight since Paradox always makes it a one-hit kill unless it's against something extremely godlike>>579008954Also this. There's too many character moments for rule of cool so now it's impossible to get a grip on some characters like Chrome or Alma.
>>579009614Chrome is weaker than the 4 knights. She's solid above average monster girl teir
>>579010249>>579009614to be fair chrome did fuse with chrome and get an ability to powerup so how does that fair now?
>>579010396Zero plus zero is still zero
>>578995856They shouldall of Setouchi's amazing skebs in the game as scenes. I want to read someone other than Luka moaning pathetically.
>>578994728it's not her fetish, it's yours, cuck
>>579011863It's all of ours. That's how it works.
>>579011863Alice, no need to project. We all already know you like to watch.
>"Luka should have children with all the girls">ending has literally every girl even npcs wanting Luka's dick>"Nyoooo! Not like this!"Why are MGQ fans like this?
>>579013891fans? Trtr himself is like that, he adamantly refuses to allow luka harem.
>>579013891
>>579013603it's a forced meme and it hasn't been funny for a long time
>>579013971Because trtr is a romanticist like ME and realizes how IMPORTANT LOVING MONOGAMY is. He only threw in the ring in paradox because everyone wants to marry their specific jobber and paradox is a noncanon side game
>>579010916Trtr would never have his girl Alma being raped
>>579014252>we're different peopleCan't fool me Baal. Posting on your mindcontrolled hivemind minions doesn't count as different people
Why don't they just make infinite Lukas so every monster girl can have one?
>>579014993based fellow monogamy chad
>>579015176Ba'al is victim 0 to the hive mind. Hopefully we get to save her (from it and the crippling depression).
>>579014993for a romanticist paradox sure does lack any good romance
>>579015190because the Lukas will start debating over who gets to be with what or attempting to refuse, and a lot of monster girls will just want THE original Luka and think everyone else should have the clone.Alma likes the doppels though so it would work on some of them.
>>579015369Paradox is chiefly about redeeming illias and chuuni powerscaling, its also a rpgmaker game compared to a visual novel, paradox tries a lot more to be a jrpg adventure while the vn is telling a story
>>579015190Replace the last point with>Why is your Luka so much better than mine (which is identical in all ways)? Give it to me!
>>579015987I don't even think paradox tells any worse story than the VN. I think Luka and Alice are worse characters but that's a consequence of a lot of things, and paradox being a rpgmaker game and not a vn is not one of those
Succubus - > Harpy - > DragonRace Change Diagram
>>578867847What do they see in each other?
>>579017089Nothing. They're rivals pining for your attention (Goblin will probably win because elves have been turned into absolute jokes by years of parodies, more so in monster girl stuff, while goblins are a popular choice that goes "against the grain")
>>578993772LAGOOOOOOOOON!
>>579010916Tamamo and Alma being raped. The world became a more just place.
Fuck you.
>>579015014Anon, he has Alma proudly explain that she wants to get gangraped when we find her in prison.
>>579020152>tickleddon't insult soapy's profession like that she's just cleaning her it's strictly business
>>579014735It's a good reality and it will never stop being funny.
>>579013971>>579014993Well, iirc, he promised to add all MGQ-related skebs people pay his artists for in the game, so sucks to be him
>>579020152No, she want to fuck, not get gangraped.
>>579020760>forcing spam meme shit means it's realityit's not, sorry cuck
>>579021828She was frustrated because the guards were "UN-raping" her.
>>579020760It really isn't. People just ignore it because it's less trouble than getting into yet another internet fight
>>579020760Agreed, people who complains about it are just sourpusses.
>>579022725>>579023334Alice, stop. It's pointless. It's a common secret by now.
>>579021402no, he only promised it during a specific period of time. anything after doesn't count nor is required. what's in the timeloop are the promised skebs from that period.
>>579023681no, they just don't like seeing your shit fetish spammed.>>579023695>achkshually if you don't like my fetish you are le cuck!Nope. That's not how it works, cuck. Sorry.
We all know Ilias is a bigger cuck than Alice is anyway. Ilias watches everyone else and canonically made the Saja cuck sex tape.
>>579024004>fetishHoly projection batman. Something you want to share with the class?
>>579023764Judging by how many skebs of half-Luka OCs Setouchi has made even up until recently that all resemble the way he made Ruka, I'd say that either the period is still up or he did a very poor job of communicating and is in danger of getting into trouble regardless of that.
>>579024176>no uwhy else would you be spamming cropped cuck porn you disingenuous faggot
>>579024004Now, my Cucklord, you know that's not what I said...>>579024176Isn't it obvious?
Luka couldn't even properly raise two kids.If he got four more from different mothers, then they would be even more neglected by him.
>>579024276the Bub was unrelated to the period, and the person who commissioned her simply got very lucky. Trtr was running out of money for unique enemy designs (re: 90% of route three enemies being literal recolors), and there was something he felt worked that was already finished, so he just asked setouchi to design an outfit for her since the original one was naked and put it in as a filler enemy.It was after people discovered her that setouchi started getting swarmed with commisions for donut steel OC kids and taking some of them, but they're very unlikely to be added into the game and setouchi probably just does them because setouchi will do almost anything that he's commissioned to do.
>>579024653>spam fetish porn>anyone who complains must like that fetishthis is literally what you claimed you fucking faggot, this behavior is why everyone hates cucks forcing their shit into everything. unironic cancer that ruins generals. fuck off.
>>579024568More than 1 anon and I don't save any of that, also, it's only cuck porn if you project into Alice, which you're not necessarily meant to do in these particular cases. So, why are you projecting into Alice?
>>579025069>it's only cuck porn if you project into AliceI don't care what cope arguments (you) make, it's all the same thing, cuck = cuck and anyone who saves these to spam them is a cuck.>muh projectingI'm not projecting onto anything, but thanks for sharing that's what you've been doing.
>>579025069Alice is getting cucked so it's cuck porn. Don't play stupid.
>>579025032Now that's an oversimplification. Also, wow, so mad, totally not trying to hide anything...
>>579025848It's not, and you don't need to continue to project your weird fantasies onto everyone else.
>>579025324>>579025607Cuck + Porn = Cuck porn only when the protagonist is the cuck. Now, last time I checked the protagonist is Luka and, not to discriminate against any femanons here, but I'm pretty sure the target audience of MGQ is men. So I don't see why you'd think the protagonist is Alice and thus this is a cuck porn.
>>579026068>"I-i-i-it's not!"Don't cry, Alice, we don't judge... too much.
>>579026469>lets husband be rapedI am strongly certain that the moment they actually confess/marry Alice flips and threatens to kill anything that touches Luka. People even called her out on being retarded for waiting for something so formal and adding a shittest on top of entire ML husband condition thing, especially if she is that deeply in love.
>>579026469man, you really are trying to force it into a meme.And yes, it's not, you've derailed this thread into a shitstorm and are acting smug about it, that's the reason everyone hates cuckfags.>>579026262>actually it doesn't countthat's cope and you know it, if it's porn about cucks it's cuck porn.
did trtr give up on part 4
>>579025032I will also join that anon and say NTRfags getting more and more uppity and are reaching annoyance level of ancient time furries. No, nobody likes you, fuck off.
>>578993772Translate the one with mom incest rape impregnation cowards.
>>579026748She fights alongside him in chapter three once they're no longer doing the 'kill the monster lord' song and dance and she threatens to murder anyone who tries to get their hands on Luka once they've become officially married. The test is just Tamamo trying to 'prove' he's loyal and won't betray her trust, and is mostly just an excuse to throw in a few extra scenes right at the end.
>>579027017If you mean golden route it will require lots of scripting and LoC rework+rebalance (and let's be real, despite his good qualities, trtr knows fuckall about game balance, I mean look at what happens in late P2/entire P3) so it will take quite a while.
>>579027203Late Part Two was perfectly fine in the older versions, it was when trtr started constantly adding new mechanics into the game but not rebalancing it around them that the problem started.
>>579027156I mean, I do agree, just merely pointing out that initial statement about "letting" is not just plain wrong but is contradictory to probably most popular controversy about Alice/Luka VN relationship.Also even when Alice does not have exclusivity rights she acts openly pissed about others having Luka at his consent.
>>579000856It's actually quite a subversion because initially I thought it's just the usual "different artist" issue and they were supposed to look alike, heh.
>>579002295I've already minimised MP cost and tamamo can just eliminate MP cost entirely
>>579015507>Lukas will start debating over who gets to be with what The lukas have unionized
>>579028753well, would YOU want to be the Luka who gets placed in a mail order box to plansect? Lukas deserve rights, man!
>>579030315Plansect's alright in singularity world. What you should be worried about is being sent to MW grangold
>>579030527idk man one of them tells you that they kill people slowly and gradually because they think a swift death is too cruel, it doesn't really sound like the most enjoyable tourist spot.
>>579030764Don't worry, the friendly neighborhood insects will protect you. Trust the mantis and spider girls anon.
>>579030764Priestess is there. She'll tardwrangle most of them.
>>579030764i like the silkworm girl, can i stay with her
>>578992895This nigga has 50/50 chance of being either the most trustworthy and brotiest angel to human or maniplunate asshole bastard in each game
>>579025032>[1]That's just turdworlder being retarded as usual.
>>579024276>>579024882As the person responsible for more than one of those daughter commissions, I'll admit it's a fools hope for them to get in. But I wanted the possibility. However, I do remember some things about the "skeb event" (I think TRTR called it that) quite clearly. Notably, oddly, he only announced it over some time after the time loop event was released. Which technically means he's on the hook to included a fair few things somehow, but I'm guessing that in practice, the time loop event was it. But we'll only see for sure once NG++ or whatever you want to call it is out.
um. Kagestumugi. Why is this skill in your toolkit?
>>579026469Make a potential man version!
>>579034496>Muh linkpostingAnd here starts the poopdickschizoing...
>>579026469due to paradox retcons or lore expansions idk cuz humans normally aint good at magic she actually killed a powerful fairy male as a child.
>>579036938
>>579038502>she actually killed a powerful fairy male as a child.Iirc, Obi Wan Kenobi kinda pulled a Lucifina and was only at a fraction of his power, even without counting how old he was.
>>579036938all gunners get that, it's from a part two job iirc
>>579042940It feels like somebody's trying to sell me something
I have turned our part 3 spoiler daughter chaos into a fox.Forgive my bad art but i had to i need to turn her into various monstergirls also she has 1 tail because foxes cant have 1 tail(only animal foxes have 1 tail in mgq lore) and she decided to be super special cuz she can. her face looks more foxlike with its expression and maybe additude too mostly cuz i feel like her fight should have had phases where she becomes each monstergirl type.. harpy anon is gonna kill me if i dont draw the harpy wings right..
>>579031296Priestess could certainly use a Luka in her life
>>579051721Luka would be ashamed! Great job.
So, apparently Naglfar has made a sex scene(s?) with Fatlice's "human" form, no idea if it will be added in the game.
>>579054434Fucking Ugly. i'm talking about the crown.
>>579051721aaaa cute fox!!!
>>579054434Looks like a commission.The guy has drawn two versions of that form, the beta everyone thought would show up in Part 3, and the current design under his new style.Naglfar seems to have gotten deep into the thick fetish, because his already big girls are now bigger whales.
>>579051721I just realised if i ever turn her into a succ i gotta giver her big boobers...
>>579061995How about.Just making her into an adult too?
Has any girl done Luka so hard he ahegos with heart eyes?
>>579062227i already did that yonks ago it's a bad drawing cuz its old tho.
>>579062452Luka will get a heart attack and probably look at any men like a hawk.
>>579063084This is implying she didnt do it for attention or to rape him because she spent 5 seconds with alma.
>>579063169RIP Alma. It was nice knowing her.
>>579063250Alma'd find a way. besides Luka's kinda sick of killing people by this point. Also even without Alma chaos already knows how to rape luka due to 1. akhashic records 2. everyone knows how to rape luka somehow
>>579063441No fun allowed.
>>579062228Metatronne & Sandalphone, I believe
>>579063527They're gonna put her in a no fun allowed box.
Now draw her as an angel soldier
>>579061995you can make her a succ and leave her flat....
>>579063896I have to continue the running gag of loli succubi having big boingaloings. Also besides if she's gonna turn into a succubus she's going to abuse her dad's biggest weakness. BOOBS
>>579064004Did setsouchi's new book come out yet? it's still fucking funny how those 3 all know they're cucked even through they all have big tits, Hild's boobs aren't even as big as theirs yet she's the one with the kid and thus marital rights to luka
>>579064717a thread or two ago sent a sadpanda link there isnt many chaosnanigans in it
I hope to Chaos Harpy anon doesnt kill me
>>579066296>>579051721please dont kill me harpy anon i havent drawn birds in a while and the last time was that tired reina. least of all with the new methods im figuring out.In an alternate universe chaos is a boss with like 12 phases each in different forms with their own h-scenes. Her personality changes to some degree to embody the monster she's roleplaying as to some degree. As a fox she gets more smug/trickster like. As a harpy she gets more playful and gentle... as a succubus she'd probably become a to varying degrees a fucking gaki that corrects you instead. Yes i said roleplay this is the equivalent of a kid playing pretend except she can actually just do it. One of her wings is opposite coloured because she thought it was edgy and cool and i colored it halfway and was too tired to argue with myself to stop. If you were paying attention yes the clothes are damaged. the only thing that can damage chaos is herself.. so i figured if she wants to she can tear off her own clothes to degrees. If i were to describe scenes i'd picture it'd be like consumed by fluffiness then erased if she's you know as a boss but otherwise fluff overload but you live and feel invigorated.. with sex ofc fucking fluffy tail. while the harpy form would probably be more gentle and soothing about it taking you midair to do it before she remembers she's supposed to destroy everything and be upset playtime is over as a boss otherwise just more gentleness and soothingness...
>>579066296>>579068748Harpy Anon would never hurt anyone.
>>579068959I draw bird so bad and view it as a sin to birdkind. I need practice to get better at drawing monstergirls in general people with actual learned talent have it hard man this is not easy.I dont know if this is the whole "an artist views their own art as shit" thing tho.. thats another issue..
>>579068748Oh also those uh feathers being portalled in will cause you to have a laughing fit via tickling im not into tickling i just thought it'd be funny.
watching guest scence form sucubus prison 2 form sucubus desire i wonder where the fuck is lilith because she litearlly control the whole map and don't let any human died it force plot hole
Zombie girl
>>578951270The question is, who has the cock and who is dom?
>>579061545>his already big girls are now bigger whales.On the plus side, he has improved at making faces and expressions.
>>578971395Smallmamo has the cock.
>>579073901Goddamnit dualtail why do you keep giving lolis cocks
What is it supposed to represent?
>>579075086Cuz its hot.Besides now she can look like a shota and you know what The monster world tamamo does to shotas.
>>579077621Which ML puppet was this?
>>5790789319th. Balice's lil sis.
>>579077621She is stuck in the transitional period between caterpillar and butterfly.Her entire life was dictated by her elder sister, likely due to resentment and jealousy, and never found what she really wanted. The little sister in the end, died following the eldest, only because she couldnt think of anything other life.
>>579079558Imagine having black alice as an older sibling. She would be that teenage older sibling that does weed and takes you out to do highly illegal shit with them and let you hit that if you don't tell mom
>>579080325Well see, the thing is Alice's mom raised her to be a conquerer so there's nothing to hide really
Pretty cute for a monster lord
Cute!
>>579069068>>579068748the wings are pretty bad, but wings are very hard to draw, so don't feel too bad about it. just takes a lot of time and practice.
>>579080430Boomers think doing drugs is worse then trying to take over the world.
CHICKEN
>>579080851Best party member. Never let go of this woman.
Yay! Black alice!
>>579084094please keep her, she has been causing trouble on the vacation, and is now banned from the boardwalk
Luka and the Blue Bum Lords vs Heinrich their equivalents for him. Who moans the most pathetically?
>>579080678That's Luka's wife grandmother or mother or great grandmother or great granddaughter. Show a little respect.
>>579086367BA would murder the other three so Heinrich has an advantage from the get go on top not having pleasure sensative angel genes.
>>579088298>>579086367BA and Alice would be beating the others unconscious (or potentially just kill them in BA's case) so it just comes down to Luka being a massive pervert with angel genes while Hein is just a really strong but normal guy
>>579020152Reminder Crab Girl canonically bested an angel in the VN (angels in the VN are immune to most forms of attacks)
>>579088298No violence in the sex room.>>579088671>Alice would be beating the others unconscuiousAnon, who's the one closest to Luka?
>>579089763>No violence in the sex room.Myusca forgot to stress test it and it didn't really pan out that wayAlso Alice gets a +500% damage buff against Neris specifically because that's how the original one kept her in line
>>579089135She was also so popular at the time of Part 1's release that she's the only non story important "enemy encounter" who shows up twice, and the second fight is entirely because after getting unsealed she rigorously trained herself to beat Luka in a fight. The second time she got sealed she trained herself even more, and by then had grown strong enough that she beat the angel that went after her.Soapy is based.She also was somehow one of the girls chosen for the OVA; honestly I would like to hope that since setouchi designed a dress for her that she uses in her cut-in that she has a chance to get in TD with it, mostly because I would like to see her and Aqua interact.
Interesting!
>>579092860>>579084094Ah, this was a fun dungeon. I remember it very fondly. The puzzles were neat, but I played before the dungeon spirit was added to the game so I don't know if it just gives everything to you or not.I can't really blame him for getting lazy about the actual exterior of the towers though. Towers are hard. I tried to make my own, though, and I think I managed to get around the lack of available curved assets ok.
>>579090150>Myusca forgot to stress test it and it didn't really pan out that wayYeah, no we had fightfags stress test it. It's like the whole nightmare thing, all hits goes through. And for good measure men get target priority for pleasure attacks. We take sex very seriously here at Breeding Inc.
https://mega.nz/folder/md1nhZoS#muuUovhlmEDaFNNa1_wJMA/folder/zNty0Z5b folder of the collab scenesVery grateful for the Neris translation someone did, don't suppose someone could translate singularity's? I'm very curious about hers.
The monster girls have no understanding of the bottomless malice within the human heart.,
>>579092860Your wide grinding pays off.
>>579098024I see you have encountered... That.
>>579098145Definitely surprised me by how strong it was. It actually took more than one turn to kill. Not sure about Luka though
>>579098429If you'd ever encountered them in a Final Fantasy game, it should be no surprise, as they are typically among the deadliest recurring enemy types.
>>579098429nta but it's supposed to be an optional boss in the tower encounter, one of them is guaranteed as the final enemy in the second-to-last difficulty stage of the colloseum. If you've been playing through the game normally, then it's a pretty harsh difficulty spike compared to the rest of the area.
>>579098695>>579098560I've actually managed to recruit one already. Silly little cutie.
I love this little thing
>>579098024>>579098772>>579099580She is cute, once one gets over the potential trauma of her kin in other games.
SEXOOOOOOOOO
KEK
OOOH
Another one as well!
>>579099580I should draw that thing again someday
>>579099580
>>579014993>Because trtr is a romanticistAnd yet he'll never give us this but with the FHKs:
>>579080851Never let her go. Unnironically.>>579098024The most adorable trauma with the most adorable knife and the most adorable sorcery.>>579103664>>579103876Most based goddess. Enjoy your actually useable Quadruple Giga.
>>579111160Because the 4hk all have weaker relationships with luka than alice. He didn't even try with Eurbertie for example
>>579107246Tonberry girls certainly made an impact with some people.>>579100265>>579103664>>579103876Oh, by the way, you should check out the administrators tower.
>>579109851>>579111673
>>579098024Holy fuck its monster girl ripper jack
I think there should be fairies with big enough boobs to make normal sized women with huge boobs feel envy
>>579116292Based?
>>579111319>Enjoy your actually useable Quadruple Giga.Usable, yes. Good...
>>579118686If it wasn't nerfed...
>>579081891wings are really hard to draw.
>>579119387that's why i said that
>>579112697MGQ gives her a really odd kit.I can understand her knife oriented trait, but what is up with making her race selection so Mermaid heavy? Did Final Fantasy ever describe these things as ocean monsters or something? Kind of odd.
>>579127604>Did Final Fantasy ever describe these things as ocean monsters or something?They look like lizards or crocodile, so... kinda.
>>579127604Tonberry are likely based off of umibozu, which connects them to the sea as well as their iconic karma/grudge stuff.The FF tonberry looks like a lizard or fish, so the MGQ tonberry also has fishy lizard traits.
>>579128772Cute.
>>579128772
>>579128772>>579128993AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE
>>579129198Karmaaaa
>>579129198I wonder how much karma Lucifina accumulated.
>>579129473Enough that it's likely a 100% 1hko
>>579129473>>579129529Based on how Karma/Grudge works it will:>do an unmitigated 10xY damage to the target, with Y being the kill count of the target>Do the same but it's 20xY instead>The same as above but if they killed more than 500 it's upgraded to an instant death>deal 4xY damage where Y equals the amount of tonberries killedRegardless it's not looking good for lucifina.
>>579130104>>579129198NTA, but the game actually has an equivalent of Karma called "Everyone's Grudge", which Tonberry Girl has. Everyone's Grudge is based on the last variant (damage formula is calculated based on how many members of the user's species that you have defeated), with the catch that rather than 'of the target', it's everyone in the party because it's calculated from the universal stat data.I found this out the hard way when playing 2.41 the first time, because I had killed so many mimics over the years prior to playing the updated version of Part 2 that "Everyone's Grudge" turned into a guaranteed one hit kill from them. The damage the Mimic has with it is no doubt even higher now. In any case when Tonberry Girl uses it it's comically ineffective as a result, but she has the Kitchen Knife skill to make up for it.
>>579131076Guess that means she'll take as much damage from it as Eve/Eva took from the "number of men you've satisfied" based attack: 0
>>579131489Well that's why all the art of Lucifina being maimed is the Kitchen Knife attack since that's based on Tonberry's other signature move, and did not have it's effectiveness at all hampered
>>578868450>shota MCDamn, why
>>579135386It's Luka, Why wouldn't it be?Even if she goes and fucks the MMTD prince, it's even more shota.
>>579127604>>579128094In FF14's case, Tonberries are actually an ancient kingdom of Lalafells who fell to a curse that transformed them.
>>579136586They looked ugly then, they look ugly now. The FF11 midgets were better.
>>579138302I am disinclined to get into an arguement over your very wrong opinion about a cancer patient game that shouldn't get many posts here.Just note you are very wrong and Lalafells are very cute.
>>579138302>>579139324Well, for what it's worth, Jingai *has* done Lalafell art.
>>579136586arent these things the reason why everything jingai started to draw became potatoes
>>579141378That would most likely be the Harvin from Granblue Fantasy. The girls in the picture are Harvin, the blonde one being Charlotta, one of two Harvins he really likes drawing and even made doujins for.The guy in the picture not a Harvin, but as Draph. He's irrelevant to the subject.
>>579111673Cute!
Ayyy Gnosis!
>>579143105She has some really funny dialouge if you got her first before getting Zion. But the level difference is so big, most people wont see it.
>>579143338You can get her extremely early in the route but it all depends on getting through the forced encounter at the front door, what's funny is that it's right next to where you get Papi which is one of the earliest things you do in the route while the scaling is for way later.
Nuruko!
>>579143338It's the same with the Lilith Sisters. They also have some funny dialogue when it comes to the Seraphs, but you will have to go out of your way to avoid Remina, and wait for to the Echidna event first. It's actually amazing that there is dialogue at all with these three considering how super late you get them.
Oh! Here we go!
>>579145803Once you've got her, check out her race and it's requirements. And if you want, shove seeds in her till it's mastered, so you can see it's Proof.Also, use the library/monsterpedia to compare how strong she is as an enemy to the Tonberry girl.
>>579146353Hmm, I don't have anyone who can become a fairy, scylla and a doll all at once.>Null cogito has 25 trillion HP>The tonberry girl has 115 trillionchrist.
>walk sim timepass
Cute.
>>579148009Bro, they're distant cousins
KEK>KEKKEK
>>579141378>>579142358Yeah it was HarvinHe even writes GBF on this Potatomamo
What the hell is this random event lmao
>>579148934I think it's a Dragon Quest reference?
>>579148009GO TO EVERY INN WITH THIS FOR A DRAGON QUEST REFERENCE.
>>579149097already did it with the queen
>>579149137based
>>579146651You'll get more racechanges. Don't forget to talk to Promestein. There's one at Undine's spring if you've recruited the Moray girl, have a friend who missed that one. And yeah, Null Cogita is meant to be nearing endgame, but the tonberries are actually endgame. And given how whack the scaling in the Chaos route is... yeah. Oh, and hope you didn't miss the orb for Forbidden apoptosis race in the tower. Yes, you get forbidden apoptosis and a super race that has forbidden apoptosis as a pre-req from the same location.
>>579135386he's unironically more masculine than Luka is
>>579151353vn luka's artist change makes him look way more masculine the kingka buried in the files.
>>579151983I'm talking about how he behaves, not how he looks.
>>579151353>generic gacha MCDoubt.
>>579153114arent gacha mc's known for not having much character a lot of the time?
From what I heard, the translation for part 3 is complete for the Ilias route and almost complete for the Alice route (no mention on how far along is the Chaos route).How can I patch this with the bob mtl without fucking shit up, what files do I replace so I have the properly translated Alice/Ilias routes, but don't fuck up the MTL'd chaos route?I'm a techlet with this kinda thing please help.
>>579153114>genericI get the stipulation about le gacha but I wouldn't call him that
>>579153210>>579153114usually they're either silent or generic self-inserts who are just there so (you) can pretend to be them. either that or your standard isekai trash edgy/serious power fantasy stand in.he's very much his own character in this (with his own name) and his personality is more comparable to sonya (long suffering straight man who tries to be friendly and helpful but is stressed from having to wrangle a bunch of idiots and is prone to funny reactions) and whityel (trying really really hard to make the others think of him as manly and tough but can't because of how he looks).in the sex scenes where he's the one initiating it or he's into it he talks about wanting to use it as an opportunity to get the girl to see him like a real man and wants to make sure his partner enjoys it, by comparison Luka is Mr AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in 100% of everything.
>>579154316Reminds me of a picture with different gacha MCs where each one is thinking "I'm totally different and not at all generic unlike others" or something desu
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>>579155064He's just a really fun protagonist honestly, he's part of the reason I kept playing it at all.>>579155678I don't even recognize half of these ngl
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>>579149718>Oh, and hope you didn't miss the orb for Forbidden apoptosis race in the tower. Yes, you get forbidden apoptosis and a super race that has forbidden apoptosis as a pre-req from the same location.Course I did. Gold chest.
