Furn Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>578787197
I love this thing.
>IVY DIED SCREAMING
>>578873204>>578874050I've played with russians that are alright people in dota2 and deadlock. IIt's just the vast vast majority are insufferable. The goods know english and don't yap all match in russian usually.
>>578874510>no greensdeserved
>>578875119>heroic aura>echo shardmy bricklow hebewife...
So, once they release Deadlock 2 update they're abolishing the secret server, right?
>>578874510Ivy fought bravely. Held her ground and never ran.
>>5788752411.0 is likely 2028 so we have another cycle at least
What's the deal with Ixians?
>>578875220heroic aura is literally her best mid-game item.
>>578875338Never ask a man his wageA woman her ageOr an Ixian supremacist the species of his girlfriend
WHY IS THERE LITERALLY NOTHING. NOTHING BUT RUSSIANS ONLINE? EVERY GAME PLAYS SO FUCKING BADLY. IT'S OVER AT DRAFT. THESE RETARDS HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO COUNTER BUY OR TAKE APPROPRIATE FIGHTS. THEY FEED THEIR ASSES OFF IN LANE AND CONTINUE FEEDING HYPER SCALING CARRIES 1V6 ALL GAME.
Reminder that Celeste is a prostitute
>>578874510Is veil walker better than shadow weave on Drifter?
>>578876336because nobody but russians plays this game
>>578876336The only constant variable that you can meaningfully influence on any game is yourself.Before sperging like a fucking idiot take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself what the winning condition was (protip: it's never "if that other guy didn't feed we would've won").
>>578874398>love the design aside the midtransformation wolf parts>hate her voice>hate her personality>hate her gun>hate her kit>hate playing her>hate playing against herWhat a flop, at least shes hot.
>>578876537A lesbian prostitute (she only fucks women)
>>578876891holy gay
>>578876336wait until they all get drafted and replaced by gumdung sahir that'll be too busy scamming old ladies out of their retirement funds
>>578876541nta but i think they're both goodveil walker seems like a nice way to get green investment and some solid utilitybut then obviously shadow weave gives you a bunch of stats. the catch is that you NEED to break shadowweave before going for rend otherwise you won't get the + damage (unless they fixed that)
>>578877018Nah, she is like an over socialized Stacy that throws compliments around like candy.And she exclusively fucks men btw (like me)
NOOO I DIDNT GET PAIGE I GOT SINCLAIR NOOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT CARE ABOUT SINCLAIR I WANT PAIGE IN COMP NOOOOOOOOOO
Flopping tranny deadcock.
chances of a debut at Gamescom
>>578877885When was the last time Valve debuted anything at Gamescom?
>>578877885Negative
FLIPPITY FLOPPITYTROON TRANSVESTITE DEEEEEEEEEEAD COCKITY
.@lomeinsince you dry snitchin I’ll talk.#THATSMYJOBBUDDY1. You can get sucked around by placeholder objects into side lane, they go on cooldown2. Willow is #too goated3. When I tell everyone gun is back, it’s too gangsta, #walkemdownbuild4. Games are 5-10 minutes faster due to the camp adjustments5. #CRIPPSTYLE actually flew out to Valve HQ. You just gotta believe that, DDK a goofball #HIGHKEY. If he leaks me it’s war.6. It’s a different ERA on this private build, the visuals cannot be disputed, too clean, great performance on potato’s7. Pocket doesn’t get nerfed because some Spanish dev said he loves pocket #KEKWATCH8. Magician is absolutely busted, but they change that freak 2 much so idk9. We pitched metrics based elo gains, the team dissected several data points, but wegot ho’d10. No one can replicate #THELASTOFTHEREAL11. They have been trying to sniff out #CRIPPSTYLE for a while, they smoked 2 of our soulja’s … but we just keep gettin in #GATNURFWHEN?12. I have seen countless reporting on sprint boards about EOD AUG 28th ona epic for the current version of the dogshit build (the one live rn)13. We are tracking more MM hotfixes, but they are low priority14. If you like playing Shiv we are #2back, just wait on the real game15. If you play Mo and #Stupid, you are chopped cheese. #FATBUTNOHEALTH16. Grey talon rework cool and all but the character is lame17. But flying characters are once again gutted (but lowkey viable)18. TIPS FOR LEAKERS: LLC’s are the way for leaks #DontBiteOurSwagTho19. There is shit in here that I have no idea if Valve ever intends on shippin20. If the movement #LARPERS saw some of this movement shit, they’d probably go postal!!!21. I’ll continue to do what I do for the #FUNOFIT but it’s so fast paced it’s like #wh4tsTh3PO1NT22. think some people leak this but you better invest in the skin market, big prioThis message has been declassified for public releas
Why did they make silver so trans coded when she is straight?
>coded
>>578875571I don't think he was dissing the items.
>teammates dont help me three times>ignore the game and just jungle and farmsorry not gonna help out in team fights and defend walkers when you dont do the same for me sooo i
>>578878894Troons running interference for Celeste honestly. Celeste is the most fluorescent mlp tranny coded character in this game but Silver takes all the aggro for some bizarre reason.
is there a way to private your statlocker?
>>578876541I love shadow weave but Veil walker is just better. SW's 45 second cool down is quite long that VW is just a lot more versatile in its application with only 15cd. It's rotation speed alone makes it really good but it also gives you sustain in and out of combat and 10 spirit power + 150 bonus health to boot
>>578879265ummm silverchuds? our response?
>>578879245https://deadlock-api.com/data-privacy
>>578879265>Mo.exe has stopped working
>>578879527Awesome, thanks.>Warning: This action is permanent and cannot be undone. Even if you re-enable tracking later, your historical data may not be recovered.Even fucking better tired of shit like this.
>"Hang on. Things are about to get a little bit... quirky">floors it>Crazy Frog - Axel F (bass boosted) starts playing
>tfw ParaSEX finally clickedIt's time.
Decided to check out deathy's stream, does he normally bitch and whine *THIS* much?
>>578880121>GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH THIS STINKS>runs at enemy team with 50k full loadout>im the scatman starts playing
>>578879000I'm almost 30 and I talk like a nigger zoomer am I cooked?
>>578879000>coding
>>578880182Yeah he is very effeminate and sensitive
Your victor for the evening (that gets killed 5 times during lane against the enemy wraith AND shiv feeding them enormously) sire
>>578876891>Sure>No>Probably needs more fleshing out she's one note and a more shallow Vyper>Love the gun, hate the way it feels>Wish she had her bounty board ability instead of one of her other garbage>Hate her being made of paper>Indifferent to playing against her knowing she can't end the game and will eventually be completely useless by late
>hero has some of the most health in the game but also the most dpscan we stop doing this
borgor
>>578880506You could've ganked his lane or ask him if he wants to swap before all that happened.
>>578880971I ganked his lane and both of them ran away (at near full hp) as I tried to kill their wraith resulting in her killing me so I didnt bother after that
If i play wraith, Victor and Seven and stay in my Lane for the whole Game, never grouping, siphoning all the farm,boxes and sinners possible until i get all the objectives and then go for another lane, what Will my peak rank be?
>>578881236Blueberry
>>578880506victor feels like ass after the huge gun nerfs I don't know why anyone would play him
Can I get an invite please? https://steamcommunity.com/id/tomatorade/Thanks.
>Graves in my teamez win, next>nooooo but my favorite eceleb says she's bad in floopityfloop 6 because pro players know the secret chinese tech that make her somehow not spawn an endless swarm of bullet sponges that autopush lanesDon't care.
>>578881443>this profile is privateISHYGDDT
>>578880437Left fucking right
>>578881443No invites for private bitches
>>578881485nice hope that gets you out of brick 3
>>578881734>>578881918I opened it now, didn't know you needed it public to get an invite. https://steamcommunity.com/id/tomatorade
>>578880559>Love the gun, hate the way it feelsThese contradict each other though, but if you put it like that I geuss I "like" her gun.>Indifferent to playing against her knowing she can't end the game and will eventually be completely useless by lateshes good the parts of the game that matter and it turns into "use literally everything on the silver or lose the fight" even vic isn't that bad since he's a slowcooker instead of a keyrolling burst monster.>hate her being made of papershe has to be because wolf form is so disgusting
>>578881236It stops working eventually since the game will put you with five other guys with the same strat and it turns into an instant loss. Permabrooling with active players is much better for winning games and getting teammates that aren't vegetables.
>>578879651
>>578880437>coated
>be north east US>game starts up>look in the top right for ping>if i see it go above 90 i know im about to have the most dogshit sub human IQ teammates imaginable
>>578876336because valve's actual playerbase is 40 year old slav men despite their attempts at curtailing other markets
>>578882473I like lever guns but hers feels like shitShe gets a ton of souls and then can't end because she can't take objectivesShe ults and makes a pick and then can't take the objective because she's stuck as a melee character for 15 seconds and in that time someone has arrived to clear the wave and now you have no kill pressure on themWolf form is still paper because the bonus health isn't affected by vitality investment and she has no range and no stamina
>>578883201>Old Pocket hairFuck you reminded me why I never touched Pocket.
>>578874201they need to add a backpack like dota 2 or at least dedicated active item slots
>>578883273a lot of the dota ti players were young slavs, so dota culture is still strong there. wonder how many homm3 players also play dota lol
>>578883465surely at least 50% of the TI audience was bald black women
>first wave>lane partner shoots the trooper behind bridge>no one has the angle to secure the soul>spam 'good job'from that moment on I made it my duty to troll the ever living shit out of him in which he began to rage at me. I don't give a fuck if I lose making someone rage in a alpha game that isn't released is a BIG dopamine hit.
https://youtu.be/Itm4hGAuEGU?si=tk1It-isvYNavL7fIs this what NA toxicity looks like? This is some seriously cringe weak shit>go make me a sandwich! Erm I work at a zoo so I don't care if I stutter!How is everyone so sensitive while also saying the lamest shit possible? The YouTuber has to bait so hard too to get them to say anything that isn't just "shut up". Meanwhile I watched a video by Midlock and a ukrainian Billy kept saying shit like "how wrinkly is your mother" and beefing with a russian haze about donbas, putin, and drone strikes. And everyone just ignores it and plays.
>>578883921this is basically a dhar mann video for tranny zoomers who have a panic attack when they read the nigger word
I know it's a common cope, but my team was genuinely dogshit. They let them take midboss 4 times. Not to mention the 3 times they got rift.
>>578883728damn dude, i wish i was as cool as you
>>578883921the tl;dr is american zoomers are bitches meanwhile EU zoomers can banterMust be all that processed food affecting their brains
>>578883921>How is everyone so sensitive while also saying the lamest shit possible?Why do you think they all dickride the word pedophile? It's safe offensive, they want to rip into someone without a no no word coming back to bite them
>>578884157thanks nigger
>no frog hero
>>578883728most stable moba enjoyer
fuck you nigga
>>578884261no problem untermensch
>no cunny heroflopped game
>>578883921we've all seen swallow's clips. EU is clearly on some whack shit. They say the n word as a term of endearment that just saying it isn't even considered toxic. The edgiest NA zoomer thinks just saying no no words is like blashemy that causes psychic harm to all the players who hear it
>game set in 1949 new york>no racial slur button
>>578879265>meanwhile calico and infernus lose 2v1 against an ultless venator
>>578884543embrace hebe-cheeks instead
Thanks for the invite anon I love you.
>>578884371>>578884534Wait I just re-read my greentext.my lane partner was spamming good job, not me. Fuck I'm such a stupid nigger.
>>578882179Sent :^)
>>578877885The opening night already went and came bro...And when was the last time Volvo did anything at a big third party event ? Announcing Portal 2 on PS3 at E3 ?
>>578884305
>no bejita hero
>>578884965gracias
>>578884484I can't believe Icefraud has shit videogame taste...
>lane partner who overclears troopers and forces you to overextend to claim dropped soul orbs>lane partner who doesn't clear at all and just fvcking BROOLS>lane partner who has never confirmed/denied an orb in their life>lane partner who you healing rite only to immediately walk back into lane to get shot and canceled>lane partner who is not actually a lane partner, but is in fact, a box and golden statue lane divorcee>>578883361they need more incentive for players to buy Active counter itemsa game with zero supports means zero counter items boughta game with one support means 50% chance they buy like Guardian Ward and nothing else, or 50% chance they build Gun Paige and they have a full Active item bar of Split Shot and Fleetfoot and Active Reload and some other bullshit idfkme no thinky, me just L>R ShlingoBingoTTV rush Lightning Scroll build
>>578884886we all make mistakes, learning from them is was differentiates us from niggers
>>578884120Doctor doctor I can not cope in my pod
>>578885505hmmm
>>578884543>>578884861Nobody is trying to appeal to freaks like you.
>>578884853I went 18/3 that game plus a bunch of rejuv clears but I still fucking lost.I love Drifter but man he can't carry. I had fun though, which is better than farming all game and still losing
>>578883921EU is multiple different countries with thousands/hundreds of years of histories most of which went to war with each other constantly NA is just a bunch of americans who are the exact same except maybe toss in a mexican here and there
buff silver now
>>578885712would fucking explain why the mcginnis didn't do jackshit LOOK AT THE FUCKER'S DAMAGE
>>578885774shut up americuck
>>578885964um she's le s tier you literally have 37% higher chance to win with her on your team
>>578886031>"American's are so cringe! They dont jerk off to 5 year olds!"This was your epik comeback that you were going to put on your fridge?
>>578885505You didn't get key player tho
>american game>no hamburger hero
>>578885726nyeeeeeh... what's up cock?
I'll be playing the new star wars xcom for the entire day tomorrow, so i'm confident that's when they'll choose to deploy the patch
>>578884543TRUE! but heres hoping for the future characters>>578884861Full? And where do you find this stuff im out of the loop on western artist
>>578886198Calm down
578886382>Pedophile is samefagging
>>578886213My complaints are still valid because look at mcginnis and rem
>>578886412>Says the 47 year old man crying about how theres no 5 year olds to jerk off to in his Moba game
>>578885072>no overrated jobber heroAbrams' right there bro...
>>578886572>>578886428>>578886198Keep that same energy for epstein and friends
>>578886572 amerimelty
>>578884543Could've had loli Pugna but they backed down
Wow real real organic argument which discord is this?
>>578886572Five year olds are too young. They have to be 11-14, as described by Humbert Humbert
>>578885774You're the same type of person that gets absolutely ass-blasted when i all-chat 'GLHF Graves is my hebe-wife' at the start of every street brawl game i play. >>578886382Look up EvilYaza on Twitter, find their discord. Channel dedicated to uploading some good hebeNSFW
>>578886575Thanks for not calling Silver the overrated jobber. I know that took restraint.
>>578885887>haze doesn't help you and just shoots wave>still dies after all thatlmao. Haze players really are something else
>>578886670>>578886704>>578886781>>578886792Wow, I really upset the 40 year olds, didn't I?
>>578886575And just like Vegeta is the face of DB, Abrams is the face of Deadlock...
>>578886873Out of 10!
>>578886873im gooning as we speak, thoughts?
I should learn how to draw so I can post loli Graves
>>578881236hardstuck bottom oracle
>>578887039fun with a pencil
>>578887036To graves? Her being a Jew is the cherry on top
>>578885774being attracted to teens is extremely normal
>>578887152Her kit is designed for you to ult sidelane and alt tab out of the game to go masturbate anyway.
>>578874201>decide to play silver again after one tricking shiv forever >spend two days playing her with like two net losses over all games >still having lots of fun cause her kit is just so fun to play and movement feels incredible >eventually get tired of WLWL and decide to go back to shiv>instant 8 win streak>first game where shiv is picked and i get filled silver i loseSilverbros.... idk why but the movement feels more smooth on her than with shiv but her survivability is just in the gutter rn.
>>578886949>Pedo so mindbroken he cant even get his pedophilic catch phrase right>>578887036>"heh, I'm actually the thing you accused me of!"I accept your concession>>578887252>Pedophile trying to normalize his behavior
>>578887278shiv is brainless thats why
>>578887387>Suddenly
I miss the leaks
when will we get an actually unique hero added to this game that isn't just another dotaslop port?
>>578887387r/deadlock nigga
>>578887387>>Pedophile trying to normalize his behaviorYou mean like epstein? or drake? or edp whatever his name is?
>>578887152Don't say that>>578886873>>578887387Coping cause you need to settle with crusty hags. What a shame
>random image>suddenly random multiple replies to itget banned already so we can see that its just you arguing with yourself
>>578887419>No rebuttalI accept your concession, 40 year old pedo.>>578887039No you wont. You have zero self discipline.>>578887535>Doubling down on proving that I'm right in everything that I acuse you ofWow, I bet this went hard in your head, huh?>>578887538Pedos get mad when you call them out.
>>578887278>still having lots of fun cause her kit is just so fun to play and movement feels incredibleyeah no you're full of shit
>>578887538Based. You are a not mentally ill. They are out to get you. If your parents try to get you "psychological help" or make you take pills, they are compromised and have been replaced by look-alikes. Don't trust anybody.
one of these days celeste is going to heavy attack and break her horn
>>578887629melty
>>578887724true
is valve insane, what the fuck is this ranking up systemgot all the way up to rrat 6 only to see it demands 2000 points
>>578887278>movement feels incredible
>>578887992>47 year old pedophile already exhausted from the mental strain of defending his weird behavior
I am so tired of saying Wraith
>>578887039 i'll draw this on the /vg/ drawthread drawpile later today. might draw ivy too.
We could use an Alice loliGraves already took the gothic role
I've been onetricking as Kelvin since his beam could disarm, and I had to learn Abrams and Mo+Krill just to play ranked.Holy fuck is it nice to actually do fucking something in lane. Kelvin Frost Grenade has a longer cooldown than fucking flame dash
>>578888185eat my ass>>578888220Alice Hebe, you mean
yesterday we had a filthy furnigger who mained graves now some graves retard is having a melty coincidence?
>>578888151Yeah bro you don't enjoy her janky as fuck kick or the base two stamina? Amazing movement!
What if Mo and Krill was like D.va? When you kill Mo Krill pops out and can run around but he has like 100 hp
>>578888516thought this was a stone carving of goatse
>>578888516Graves players are our most mentally ill soldiers. They dont even know how to play beyond w+m1 and they get mad when this stops giving them wins.
>only character I can do ok with is graves>pretty much stop being a character past 20 minutes if I'm not 10k up on the entire lobby
>>578888593What if..?
>>578888516Nah its someone getting mad at Graves but really when is this not the case
>>578888452See: >>578887992Stress like this cant be good for your blood pressure. Its also funny imagining your old ass frantically sweating as you scroll through you 8 terabyte files of pedo pictures
>>578888516You have it backwards
you play graves because you can't aim. I play her because she's cute. we are not the same
>>578888782MFW
>>578884484>>578885197since he speaks mandarin fluently, I imagine he's played some of the better chinese indies. I love hero's adventure and I heard wandering sword/amazing cultivation simulator are great
>>578888947>Now unc is spamming AI slop
>>578888709Extremely based duo concept
>>578888996Hero's adventure was fun as fuck, only issue I had was the weapon system being a bit shit if you happened to use a weapon with zero high-tier techniques.
>four months left in 2026>still no signs of a yamato visual update
>>578889050I like what I likeSimple as.
578889296>"If I keep proving you right then that means I win!"What a sad, desperate display.
>>578886792>>578887152>>578888452>>578888947>>578889296this is an obese homosexual furry that posts pictures of his asshole on twitter btw
>Hes still seething
What language is this and why is it on North American servers?
>>578889131yeah, there's only like 3 viable weapon styles I think. definitely excited for the sequel in december
>>578888593>HotS wins againi was just watching a video about how Blizzard fvcking sucks and Brack+COO of Activision(?)+some indian woman DEI hire killed it due to greed and basically scumbagged a ton of peoplethere's an alternate future where HotSlock is a thing and it's an absolutely insane game
>>578889236I want to motorboat those titties
>>578889530Right? Guys a 40 year old getting mad at people calling him out
>>578889534WAIT THERE'S A SEQUEL COMING?Thanks fort telling me anon now I'm hyped as fuckThese games are genuinely just chinese fallout 1/2 and I mean that in the most flattering way possible
its kinda crazy that we are sharing a general with these niggers bring me back to 2024
>>578889678https://store.steampowered.com/app/3956640/Heros_Adventure_Another_Tale/yep. was actually supposed to release this week but got delayed. if you want more suggestions for chinese indies, I love heluo studios. big fan of tales of wuxia.
>>578889682Discord was a mistakeWe warned them too but they just wouldn't listen
>>578889559Blizzard abandoned Hots because they couldn't get the League audience. They were cultivating their own niche in the hero rts brawler genre but they just decided to give up one day because it only made millions instead of billions.
wtf is with this disparity in skill yes im in ratlo but ift feels like im playing against seal team 6
Based hebe-posters> FurfagsAny day of the week
*raises paw*i like both
>Get a really good wraith on the enemy team in ranked>She gets fed and carries>Next game she's on my team>But picks Seven and we fucking losegod damn it
>Unc is still crying about being called outYoure a 40 year old man
Seven needs buffs
>>578890026Cub sweeps desu
>>578890026Full?
is spirit burn mandatory for spirit billy
>>578889502...yoshi?
>>578890561can he even proc it after his t3 ram lost it's percent spirit damage?
>>578890349>>578890349 Google 'shuuko deadlock'
>>578890561BILLY CAN DO 500 SPIRIT DAMAGE??!
Silverchads win again (except in game because Silver is weak as fuck lol)
>>578890809Yeah if you buy Tankbuster
>>578890319zased
>>578885505>3k damage on mcginnisyeah you were handed a EOMM mandated loss
>>578890209Being a 40 year old is much better than being a broccoli haired, pedo mustache, feminine voiced, 'type shit' spewing retard who never has sex
>>578890869Ok but spirit burn aint proc so its shitback to 30k melee damage
>>578891069Cope + Projection
>>578885505Why the fuck do you have swift striker on a burst fire character
How new are you guys that you're giving this retard attention? They thrive off that shit. Stop posting
>>578887278shiv is braindead overpowered and silver used to be just as OP but she got nerfed while shiv did not
I love the shadow fed.
>>578890085
>>578891069>access to wet holes logical fallacyYou lost the argument
THE GAME IS ONLY 2 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
what are the best builds/items for graves? this thread makes me want to play her
>MIndbroken unc still spammingYeah, I'm thinking I won. Enjoy your deranged 40 year old man, anons.
>>578891135I'm not even the guy, I just jumped in because I could tell you were a faggot
>>578891327Arcane Surge, Heroic Aura, and wall maxxPretty much everything else depends on the enemy
How good/bad is she? I've heard Haze is just kind of worse Calico?
>>578891327idk bro i just spam street brawl and all-chat 'my wife' every round i win
>>578891428>"If you dont want to jerk off to 5 year olds then you must be gay"Weird fucking mentality.
>playing standard on a hero I've already got unlocked>lash on other lane just crying "gg go end" "gj retard" etc to his victor 11 minutes in>I'm doing doubles and he just last hits my sinners>fuck it>start following him around, getting the boxes he's trying to box run right in front of him, hit his camps, teabagging when he stops rage, basically just /follow-ing him like a bot>melts down even harder and starts crying in russian down mic>afks for a minutes in spawn and I type "lash afk report">so he has to keep playing>no one except him seems to notice I'm griefing>commend him when he misses an ult and dies>I still get key player after we loseNext time don't hit my sinners. You can either grief and or you can sweat, you can't do both.
>>578891454Easily one of the bottom 3 heroes in the game. Gets instakilled by anything, doesn't have the damage output of proper carries. She can work in pisslow where you just farm people in the jungle whenever your ult is off CD, but like you said Calico just does that better while having better teamfight potential late game and being way harder to kill
>>578891327Installing the 'bottom heavy' mod increases your win rate
>>578891556It's so fun dropping into a thread, putting down one comment and watching people get buckbrokenThe best part is, I don't even play this game
>Supposed to be a fighter>Has bombs and some giant laser thingThis character makes no sense.
>>578891556I can tell you're a mystery meat zoomer who thinks he's le hecking based despite being essentially a male feminist.
>>578891327there are like 3 ways to play her and really depends on your personal taste in what you want the whore to do for you, flexible hero but one dimensional(no matter the build) in most player's handsshe has a lot of problems like when paige was released, she is slow, she can fight some people but will get destoryed in a gang bang, so a lot of it comes down to your own accpetance that despite all her abilities and dreaming what she can do, she actually really bad at surviving which obviously can be worked on by the player.
>>578891327Reverb works on the Zombies from grasp which is funnySadly doesn't work with scroll
>>578891454She has better range, some cc and she's much hotter
>>578891724>The best part is, I don't even play this game
>>578891646He was stupid for not just going AFK. People reporting you doesn't do shit, i AFK in one out of every five or so matches and even when my entire team announces they're reporting me nothing happens. I have never recieved any penalty for doing it. When your team is bad just go afk.
>>578891740>Incoherent schizo babble
I will complete the ritual and age regress Graves
>>578891728what really makes no sense is when hes on the enemy team he goes 6-0 or some shit and is a vonstant threat but when hes on my team he feeds 0-10 and accomplishes nothing
>>578891728This is why Lash hates him so much. Bebop is a fucking cheater going up against human fighters who have nothing but their bare hands. Lash still wins the rematch
>>578891903ok zoomie now go back to playing dollies with your soijaks
>>578891848It's insane how many people threaten to afk or dc or whatever and never do. Just shows they're faggots.
is eido's team ever going to play in NS?
>>578891514>>578891709Notice how posts like these never include rankIm nooticing
>>578892012>40 year old man stressed out I called out his weird behavior
>>578892068Eido suffers from profound mental retardation, so its best they don't
>>578892116Can't wait for Ranked Street Brawl
If anyone starts bitching about anything on mic I just mute them.It's a game and 5 strangers aren't your therapist.
>>578892307Can you stop giving him attention, you moron
>>578891709>Claims to be a hebechad>installs the fat nigger ass mod
>>578891327echo shard wall refresher spirit. despite what niggers will say zombies will just do thousands of damage per fight with no input from the hero
viscous giant inflated boobs and ass mod
>>578891454she's slightly worse, but calico is S+ tier in soloq, so she ends up still being a very solid A tier.
>>578892364He lowkey just wants to see more of my hebewife frfr nocap>>578892453Suggest a better mod. I did the bunnysuit for a long while. There really isn't anything else out there. I dont do loli/anime garbage
>>578892541no no noooo the zombies automatically die when you meet a certain IQ threshold!
>no 67 tung tung sahur hero
>>578892364they just keep getting baited by random people meanwhile the guy he was complaining about probably left 20 minutes agonow all thats left are pedophiles who play deadlock I guess
>>578892237>win >someone adds me >"wanna duo?" yeah sure why not>they immediately start sperging out mid match in voice chat>only respond i can give them is yeah bro ur right cause calling them retarded would be mean >find a excuse and leave Why do people think its okay to cry and bitch all the time
>>578892617Wow you really are a stupid poser faggot huh. Stick to your low quality nigger mod. As expected of an AIjeet
heroes who can slide without items or dashingthese are THE top tier heroes because they dont require extra sprint or ms to "naturally" slide, allowing for slide wall jump AD/AJ etc etc no dashing required.>Bebop>Doorman>Graves>Haze>Holiday>Lash>Mo and Krill>Paige>Rem>Vindicta>Yamatoenjoy the smoovement
I am a racist pedophile and I work as a cartel hitman for Gabe Newell
>>578892827So you dont have any suggestions cause you are a loli weeb nigger. noted.
hmm wonder what's going on in dlg today
Give Paradox full auto.
You know that's more a compliment than an insult here
the artstyle is already a mess, game is going to be impossible to look at when they add the inevitable dogshit cosmetics
majestic leap silver
>>578893009just a 40 year old man having a panic attack after he got btfo'd
bye bye d2g, time to lift weights and try and score this qt's number in the gym. she's only 17.99999 years old btw
>>578893097What if they add good cosmetics?
>>578893316Too old
>40 year old pedophile trying to pretend like he goes to the gymDesperate.
>>578893426Hes also posting his fantasies too. kek Is this what a 4channers midlife crisis looks like?
>>578893340This will be the first Abrams cosmetic
>>578893097The game is full of unfinished shit and its artstyle already completely mogs 90% of the gaming market
>>578893340the moment Valve outsources cosmetics to the community, it's over
>>578893651faint praise
>moggsIs it fucking 2017?
>>578893884lil zoom zoom afraid of being mogged by gamer grandpa
>>578893884Wait till you hear we still use desu
>>578893884Nobody used mog nine years ago granpa
>>578893645unfortunately rootin tootin abams will still kinda fit the aesthetic
it's over
>>578894079Newfag
I'm an uncGot a job and back painThat's why I play Dynamo to knock these addy kids down a bit.
>>578893884Normalfags have just started using 4chan lingo from a decade ago
>>578894079you are not old enough to use this site
>>578883921im EU so I cant comment on toxcity and all NAs in my games where never toxic what I experienced though was people just chatting in game and making jokes together like they are friends and have known each other forever. In EU everyone is just quiet or coms stuff but its very rare that someone cracks a joke and the level of friendly bants and talking Ive had in my NA lobby was crazy and I see it with NA streamers too. I literally felt like the most insane autist in comparison, while in my country im probably extroverted. Is NA really like this??
Why does Night Shift get a different caster every week?
>>578894302Deadlock is the next big thing, it will do prime csgo numbers once it becomes a esport.
I can't even bring myself to open the game man. I'm on a nine game loss streak. So i know that if i play i'll either just lose again or get handed a miserable free win so i can continute losing later
>twitterfags are hyping up deadlock's upcoming PVE mode citing ror2ROR2 sucked massive dick though lol
>>578894395just two more weeks
>>578894395Valve actually believes this btw
>>578894395>cheaters are still running rampant with no intention to address it>they're planning a skin marketIf you mean bot numbers, yeah.
>tune into deadlock >Abrahams let's the enemy team get abrams again Frauds
Valve's corporate philosophy is to let devs do whatever the fuck they want with no fixed schedules or management. this might have worked in the early 2000s when the company was composed entirely of white men but now it just means they'll never ever get anything done.
>>578894637Make it like RoR1 and then it'll be good
riot trannies are spamming on company time again
I really should get into modding. That one guy who did Yamato and Holliday skins got contracted by Valve which if they like what he does under contract he essentially has a job there.
>>578895537nerrrrrd
>>578895329this type of post can only be explained by console wars sunk cost fallacy. the fact you're doing with f2p slop games means you're just schizo
>>578894278Yeah Americans are very chatty and friendly. To the average Euroid it's refreshing but after 20 minutes you think "God this is a bit annoying". It's a nice change of pace but I think i'd perma mute if I had to play NA permanentlyhttps://youtu.be/LAdNOyeMNLw?t=99
FACT: Ivy
anyone else wear diapers while playing rem?feels like a whole new game and i dont care if i win or lose anymore
> need to buy counters to shut down fed enemy heroes> also need to buy greens to not die> also ALSO need to buy items so i actually deal damageI dotnt want memeback from dota per se but theres gotta be something better to help come back from a terrible laning phase
>>578895979this is a basic necessity to make it into eternus
Only the content update can save /dlg/ now, we are at rock bottom.
>>578896057you can immediately come back from a bad lane phase off of a winning teamfight, it's very lenient
>Leviathan actually winning
>>578894637get ready to run around kiting NPCs for 50+ minutes, a risk of rain classic
>>578896113but we KNOW that there won't be a content update for a couple of months...
>>578894637ROR1/2 were fun but definitely not the direction they should've been goingTF2 sucks but MvM might've been funidk why they're making party mode slop instead of working on the core game, unless this is supposed to be a pseudo PTR for testing new items and shit
>>578896230im excited as a seven main who has a 30% wr because i just afk farm even when the enemy is pushing in our base
>>578896113Content update isn't until end of the beta ranked season. Which is October 8th. So another month of what we have now.
>>578895979Yes but also while playing Paige
>>578896389>idk why they're making party mode slop instead of working on the core gameI explained here >>578895076 and got called a Riot tranny shill
>>578896239>>578896424It just means we have to get comfy in those dark times for a little while longer.
>>578896389Mobas need side modes to survive these days. Half the people playing League or Dota aren't doing the "real" game.
>>578894942>abrahams loses their best abrams player to buff enjoyers>their secondary abrams player is the only guy who keeps it remotely warmed up and he was only ever a secondary for abrams so its bad when they really need itAbrahams desperately needs to fix their character rosters at this point
>>578896538actual riot tranny shit trying to kill deadlock by tricking valve into adding TFT slop no one plays
>>578874510The reaper > the sower
>pick up holliday again after months of not playing her>mvpJust like riding a bike
content update drops this friday these niggas are still talking about october lmao
>>578874510>you mad?
>>578896705>content update drops this fridaydelusional man found dead drowned in hopium tank
why does joe chuck only rotate playing two characters with the most absolute aids builds
>>578896705zero proof
>>578896192it feels almost impossible to do this from a bad laning phase if the enemy team has any amount of coordination
t4 gun active item that places a gigantic magnet above the target. While active all YOUR bullets slightly curve toward the target (think pseudo autoaim/aim assist). However, the magnet is the same polarity as your teammates bullets, meaning they cannot shoot the target for the duration
>>578896681no nigga its because your mmr decayed so you're in bot lobbies
>>578896821isn't that guy's career built off recording people who get angry at him for any reason
>>578896918this is why we have teamfight ults
>>578896705
>finally ban Lash>winbravo, expect them to get raped by 1st pick Lash next game tho
Who do i even contact about trying to get unbanned from the official discord? TLDR i lost my discord account for a couple of days and the hacker who got into it sent crypto spam to every server i was on, including the official DL one. So i got banned. But i got the account back, and i really don't want to be locked out of the server forever. Do i sent a ticket to steam support?
>>578896949I play ranked nigga and I already had 15 wins obviously. Same rank as always goofy nigga
>>578896934griefing item
>>578897112ranked is just a measure of games played not skillexcept eternus which is % based
>>578896705There's no way the content patch is dropping this week because the last three times we got a big content update Yoshi warned us it was coming a few days earlier. The only hope is that they might shadowdrop whatever the "item update" is supposed to be
Boom :3
>>578897147Sure but the actual use case (or idea, rather) was a "1v1" item that forces you to actually 1v1. If you can't win the fight, your teammates can't help you while the magnet is active.
item update before content patch
>>578897069deserved
I literally shan't be watching Nightcuck until ABL is back.
>>578897047its insane how much more berable this game is without lash or wraith
>>578897229>street brool
>osses on abrahams>sanya on levithanlel
just give us the item update changelog, I miss picking apart the item changes :(
>>578896934t1 gun item that reduces weapon spread
>>578897194What does that have to do with my post, schizo?I still overperformed at my elo on a hero I hadn't played in months, hence "just like riding a bike", you know, like how your body never forgets how to ride a bike even after years.
>>578897467>zagnop has 5 -> 6 spirit power but now gives 5% less weapon damage!!!!!
>>5788975835 pages of this
>>578897632>>578897583based, I loved that
>>578897456I think its over for oses for a while, since hes went all in on movement and the movement carry (mina) isn't relevant right now compared to celeste
>>578897578t2 gun item increases weapon spread but gives a sizable increase to gun damage
>>578897731they banned his main (lash), who happens to also be the best character in the game, so they lost
>oses celeste, 2-5uhhhhhhhh deathy told me she was broken....
>>578897820>barely in the top 10 at apex elo(You)
>https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/Zerggy>Approx. Total Winnings:$18,205uhhhhhhhhhhhh i make that in literally a month
>>578896934>le mumbo jumbo>actually its Planar Pocket
>>578884120>>578885505no way you both soloqd into another /dlg/ anon whats the chance of that
>>578897820I posted it above, but this is once again a sign that abrahams mostly has character roster problems if bans can unravel them this bad.And its mostly been caused since they had all the guys who played the things they needed to be more flexible changed teams.
>>578897731Yeah bretty much.>>578897820Wait is he actually a Lash main? I always thought he was a Mirage main but Lash does make sense since I presume he was here since the game leaked.
>>578897983you could have made that in a second if you bet on esports
>>578889532Russian.You can turn on a VPN to get into a different server, and thus enjoy better players. Turn the VPN off to get good ping.
that mimi lady caster was actually pretty good, they should make her a main caster
>>578897992I don't play dota so I don't know what that means but this one is targeted on an enemy, not an ally.
>>578898173>lady
>NOOO THESE HEROES ARE ALL OP, IM STUNNED, HAVE DEBUFFS UP THE ASS, ALWAYS CROWDCONTROLLED>WHAAAAT? MAGIC DISPELL??? NO..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT FILLS UP MY ITEMS SLOTS AND... AND.. I HAVE TO PRESS A BUTTON! ITS IMPOSSIBLE, IMPOSSIBLE. >GUESS ILL DIE TO 4 SHIV DAGGERS>I ALREADY TOLD YOU, ITS NOT PART OF MY BUILDDDDDD
when is she getting nerfed
>>578897971what the fuck are you talking about>>578898061>Wait is he actually a Lash mainplayed it when available at pick 1 last couple weeks in the challenger then raped, let BE get him in finals and then got raped last like 3 weeks
>>578897229Fucking Nickers
>>578898440>what the fuck are you talking aboutat the top n% of ranked matchmaking Lash barely cracks top 10 winrate wise.
Venator buffs soon.
>>578898519watermelon fried chicken
>>578898525I am watching, and discussing, Nightshift. Not matchmaking filled with sub .500 players climbing ranks.
Friday.
Revert the nerfs to venators ability damage scaling so he stops being a throw pick past froglow
>>578898563>Next Patch>Venators gun does 1 extra damage>To compensate for this increase in power, all other m1s will be given +1 charge on their escape.
>>578896057one solo wave counters an entire bad laning phase. what are we talking about
>>578898368COOL IVY FACTS:- She saved the game- Yoshi loves her- He has a secret stash of r34 of her- Sex. With Ivy.
>>578898640But Calico and many others have higher winrates even in Nightshit
>>578898909safe horny character
>>578898660Night. I was hoping that we just MIGHT. Sail away to some place
since you dry snitchin I’ll talk.#THATSMYJOBBUDDY1. You can get sucked around by placeholder objects into side lane, they go on cooldown2. Willow is #too goated3. When I tell everyone gun is back, it’s too gangsta, #walkemdownbuild4. Games are 5-10 minutes faster due to the camp adjustments5. #CRIPPSTYLE actually flew out to Valve HQ. You just gotta believe that, DDK a goofball #HIGHKEY. If he leaks me it’s war.6. It’s a different ERA on this private build, the visuals cannot be disputed, too clean, great performance on potato’s7. Pocket doesn’t get nerfed because some Spanish dev said he loves pocket #KEKWATCH8. Magician is absolutely busted, but they change that freak 2 much so idk9. We pitched metrics based elo gains, the team dissected several data points, but wegot ho’d10. No one can replicate #THELASTOFTHEREAL11. They have been trying to sniff out #CRIPPSTYLE for a while, they smoked 2 of our soulja’s … but we just keep gettin in #GATNURFWHEN?12. I have seen countless reporting on sprint boards about EOD AUG 28th ona epic for the current version of the dogshit build (the one live rn)13. We are tracking more MM hotfixes, but they are low priority14. If you like playing Shiv we are #2back, just wait on the real game15. If you play Mo and #Stupid, you are chopped cheese. #FATBUTNOHEALTH16. Grey talon rework cool and all but the character is lame17. But flying characters are once again gutted (but lowkey viable)18. TIPS FOR LEAKERS: LLC’s are the way for leaks #DontBiteOurSwagTho19. There is shit in here that I have no idea if Valve ever intends on shippin20. If the movement #LARPERS saw some of this movement shit, they’d probably go postal!!!21. I’ll continue to do what I do for the #FUNOFIT but it’s so fast paced it’s like #wh4tsTh3PO1NT22. think some people leak this but you better invest in the skin market, big prioThis message has been declassified for public releas
>>578898640Leviathan gonna beat abrahams thanks to the draft problems.Then they gonna lose to buff enjoyers since its still a fresh roster (that now contains a lot of abraham's old peak roster except they are missing hoot which is a critical component of that)
>>578898909Ivy was the first Deadlock character I saw.
>>578898909uncool ivy fact:- her kit is overloaded- she's annoying to play vs- sex with ivy
>>578899056Buff Enjoyers is just better at everything unfortunately, expect a raping
I like Ivy's level 3 w because it makes the game play itself
leviathan gonna leave Lash unbanned next week and start losing again
IVY DIED SCREAMIN'
ok what if graves 1 was instead sort like rem helpers except she could attach them to only herself or allies. dealing damage to a target causes the attached skull to also deal damage, and apply essence drain to the target. takes atleast a bit of damage to kill and can be shot by enemies to destroy.that way her 1 could maybe be a real ability at higher than froglo
>>578897983Did you have fun doing it though and also get to make streambux?
>insta 800 souls into egg first minute>"YOU BOUGHT THE EGG???">"POP IT YOU MORON, ITS USELESS">15 mins>"WE HAD 9 TEAM FIGHTS, WHY DO YOU STILL HAVE THE EGG????? YOURE GIMPING YOUR OVER ALL DAMAGE!!!!">25 minutes winning>"UNBELIEVABLE, ARE YOU SLOW? HOW DENSE ARE YOU? USE THE EGG. USE IT!!">38 minutes pushing their patron >"YOU STILL ARE HOLDING IT??? WHAT FOR!">as game ends, pop egg and become top in souls>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>>578897983I forgot eveyone on 4chan is a a 200k/y+ wfh software engineer.
>graves bangraves downplayers??
>graves banned
>>578899938>popping egg before 20 minutesbricked match should have disconected
graves and ivy players deserve the rope for their astroturfing
>m on team>lose
>warden and venator picked together
>venator picked by the better teamfuck it's over bros, no ven buffs.
Graves has no counterplay, you just spam the wall and win
>>578899938every time they complain, i hold it for another 10 minutesidc if our patron dies, some people need to learn to keep their mouths shut
>Enemy team gets rejuv>retard teammates pick a fight outside of base and get murked.I just dont understand
>>578900209split the farm 50/50 so we achieve 100% on both heroes
>>578900079the Russoid fears the swede.
>>578890319>>578890965what are your @s? i need fellow cub enjoyers to duoq with
>>578900209Warden is a off tank now after all the gun nerfs on him.
>>578900406teach them sister!
>>578900481Sorry, duoq is a cheating crutch. I only play solo.
>>578900406t. 1/9/2 wraith
>>578896934honestly a line of weapon items that 'thickens' your bullets would be cooli like your idea of magnetizing bullets to them but i think making it only functional in a 1vX would be a little too much
It's up
>>578900059>>578900079Graves is literally only good in pro play where the team can ultra coordinate around her
>literally only good in pro playgravesfaggot larp
>>578900823Then why does she have a 54% winrate?
>>578900938she braindead and retarded to play and get results. In pro play right now she only gets pulled out if people decide to play too many tanks at once, or apparently a special counter draft against doorman.
>She's only good in low rank! She sucks in high rank!>Uhh umm uhh ummm she's only good in pro play!Top 3 winrate in low rankTop 3 winrate in high rank
what're the odds of the item update being released during night shift because there's been a lot of updates released during night shift for one reason or another
just got off the phone with yoshi, heres the leaks for the patch dropping in 20 minutes>celeste spirit scaling increased>mcginnis heal now spawns 2 turrets alongside it>restorative locket is now a full heal>bebop hook now has charges>quadrupled damage of shiv knives>deltarune collaboration>nerfed gravesenjoy for the next 6 months
>>578900180Graves downplayers are mentally retarded and think the character is their problem when they go 0/10
>>578900867Why do you retards keep posting statistics from a site that has had no API access for literally over a year? This shit is actually meaningless
>>578900698Thicker bullets would also be interesting but I'm a bit averse to the idea because of characters like Holliday where you really want headshots. I can only imagine getting constantly crackshot by Holliday because her bullets is the size of a soul orb.There is an internal "bullet size" stat though, I know that for a fact so it's definitely possible but it'd have to be temporary I think.>1vXIt doesn't strictly have to be used in a 1vX, but if used your teammates can't help you (with that target) for the duration of the magnet. The idea being that you need to commit to being able to solo an enemy when using the item.
>>578901120I genuinely think people who play bad heroes or heroes that are perceived to be bad just do it so they have an excuse to fall back on when they get rapedJust from playing ranked up to Asc 2 in this new ranked there's so many faggots on Graves who have the entire 30 second waiting room to think about if they should play Graves into Celeste/Lash/Vindicta, they don't swap, and then at some point during the match they go "duhhh me hero so bad... me cant interact with flyers... please buff"
>>578901226The only alternative is vibes which is worse
>>578901120graves players think their hero can front line with echo shard ap5 wall only for the zombies to not 1v6 on walker walker and then die then complain that graves is bad
>>578901304the issue with graves is she cant do really anything to flyers if they're far away, but if you have a character that require to be within 10-15m she absolute RAPES them. add in the lane splitting/pushing the character is extremely unfun to play against
Graves downplayers not looking good!>graves isnt OP, just have immaculate schmovement and walljump perfectly over her vacuum wall and her swarm of minions to not take 4000 spirit damage with no spirit investmentJust like when Infernus was OP, curious...
>>578901473See, the cool thing about ranked is when you queue in and the enemy team has 3 flyers and your hero sucks against flyers you can just switch heroesBut graves players and the entire audience I mentioned would rather play into a bad matchup so they can just blame the game instead of themselves when they lose.
>>5789010830%
>>578901541its wild that swaps are blind too. i was laning against someone last night as billy and felt alright with the match up only for the game to start and see they swapped to graves and felt pure dread for what i was about to be put through
Leviathan looking fit as fuckactually happy to see them in the finale
>>578901304The hero is just bad. Lomein has said it best in his last tier list, she's reliant on the enemy team to make mistakes - They need to actively step on her wall, they need to not kill skulls, they need to not kill zombies. She's extremely easy to counter, can't interact with fliers who are really good right now, gets shit on by anyone buying ricochet and is generally just a victim hero with no mobility, no stamina and squishy as shit. She can be good in competitive as a counterpick specifically against grounded tanky heroes like Abrams or Billy, and because her team is actually going to be good and protect her and play around her abilities. But all of this is irrelevant since this thread firmly believes that the opinions of the literal top 1% players are actually bad and what matters is statistics from a site that has no API acess
>>578901672buff enjoyers always come back to some dumb shit late game
>>578892558god i love jerking off to asian girls
i guess i pissed someone off at valve.
>>578901745>They need to actively step on her wall, they need to not kill skulls, they need to not kill zombies.One hero demanding this insane amount of attention 24/7 is definitely not an issue.
I 100% guarantee the same retards who upplay graves in this thread are the chronic silverposters who downplay her. I mean it makes sense, they play Silver in their brick lobbies, run headfirst into 20 zombies and die, so the only conclusion they can reach in their enfeebled minds is that Silver is horrible and Graves must be extremely overpowered
>>578901501the whole "just move/dash" problem is that most enemy heroes with have that "just dodge it" ability and not everyone is vyper/talon/celeste with 6 stamina and super movement
>>578901109>quadrupled damage of shiv knivesa good change for once
>>578901109yoshi lied to you bro they're deleting silver from the game next patch did he really not tell you
>>578901856front liner tanks have some compensation in their kit for not being as mobile. and t3 spirit res should be in their build no matter what
>>578901745these players you're holding up so high just banned graves btw
it's so funny seeing these DLNS retards whiff all their buttons "pro" players btw
>>578901109>bebop hook now has chargesIf the uppercut t3 hook recast gets removed this is exactly the dumbass change they would do.
>>578901856its the same hero design issue which has been plaguing this game since the March patch>make game entirely about standing in and not standing in AOEs>make hero who instantly wins if you stand anywhere near her AOEs and your only counter is to run>???>yoshi hotpoop balance yay!!!!
>>578902016then go show them bro i belive in you
>>578902010Read the entire post retard
this nigga dynamo got his 4 key unbound
>>578902016They are all much better than you will ever be
>>578901109Yoshi should just bring back Pudge's three hook throw lol
>>578902057>make game entirely about standing in and not standing in AOEshotshit is a retard
>>578901745>But all of this is irrelevant since this thread firmly believes that the opinions of the literal top 1% players are actually bad and what matters is statistics from a site that has no API acessmaking giga polarizing matchup heroes like this that have 0 itemization counterplay is not a good thing either way.
>>578902090>hero is top 3 winrate at top matchmaking>is banned in pro play>"shes bad"kys retard
>>578902016this the first moba you've ever watched or what?
>>578896934>>578900698 How is that anything but a griefing item? Spend 6400 for aim assist? Even if your teammates could shoot at them how is that not a complete waste of money?
lmao that caster is right. i've never seen this dynamo actually ult. this is a pub dynamo kek
that zergy retard is using aimbot I just can't prove it yet
>>578902236Read the entire post NIGGER i literally adress both of those points. If you can't read then there's nothing to discuss you illiterate moron
>>578902084already go against them on ladder nigga
>>578902057>>578902168>noooooooooo how dare you make me use 1 of my 4 stamina bars!!!!!!
>>578901972>he thinks graves cares about spirit resistLOL
>zerqqy dying to shrineI swear this dude is only aim no brain.
>>578902349for sure bro totally
>>578902296The threat of the black hole is stronger than a real black hole
>>578902393>4celestetranny spotted
>Waste a ban on Graves>Pick Shitnamo>loseWhat did you expect...
>>578902416but hes chinese and they dominate mobas dood...
>>578902249You'd probably get some stats too but "autoaim" is pretty stupid. Imagine someone aimlocked onto you with ricochet. That's a lot of fucking guaranteed damage to the entire team if they're not all spread. The idea is that even a super mobile hero in a hectic teamfight can still be lazered, unless dispelled ofc. It's just an idea.
>>578902393>4i know what kind of person you are
>>578901454>walker walker>>578901304okay but flyers are actually a plague on everyone regardless of hero choiceexcept for M&K with Phantom Strike because at that point you've made it personal and deserve everything coming your way
>>578902225There's some truth to that. Dota is full of hyperspecific heores like Graves, but they work a lot better there because there's 100+ heroes to choose from, so you can pick them when they're going to be good. Deadlock's roster is too small, so heroes that are good at very specific things have a hard time actually being balanced
celeste boutta go 2w-9l in night shift
>>578902463>He doesn't buy stamina on every hero with <4 staminangmi>>578902545Yeah aim assist items are useless.>gets raped by a haze with aim hacks
this nigga dynamo suckssomebody hop in this lobby and body this fat nigga asap
>>578891156
>buying gun on dynamoactively throwing just build for ult like a good press 4-nigger and win team fights
>otherwordly horror doorman shits and pisses himself when a cat and a black qween turn the cornervalve kino
>>578902694>somebody hop in this lobby and body this fat nigga asaphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuSq_68gkkUim tellin you doo
dynamobros we got the black hole but it did fucking nothing
>>578890969clearly
How is that Graves ban working out
>gets stunned out of his nigger holeWOW GOOD THING YOU BOUGHT CULTIST INSTEAD OF JUST USING MONSTER ROUNDS TO FARM UNSTOPPABLE AGAINST THIS CC HELL COMP
>>578902873bought orange instead of just rushing unstoppable.
LOOOOOOLjust open
>>578902638>He doesn't buy stamina on every hero with <4 staminainsane coping troon or literal retard, I can't tell
>>578902638>Yeah aim assist items are useless.>>gets raped by a haze with aim hacksI don't get it do you think it's a useless item or not im confused.
>>578902896they covered the doorman pick but flopped with the dynamo pick
>mirage trying to go into zipline while carrying urnPRO PLAYERS BTW
give me a musician hero that forces enemies to dance when in his ult range
you just know the rusnigs are seething in comms right now>>578903080seething rusnig
>Divine barrier purchaseRARE
>>578903173???aren't all the yuro team rusnigs?
>>578902994its retarded to want at least 4 stamina? Stamina is pretty good in this game
>>578903179>Divine barrierDiviners kevlar fuck I even forgot the items name
>>578903241least malding amerifat coping with the fact that the best players are euros
>>578903173russians own you europoor
>presses his ult>gets stunned while the billy just heavy melees his fat ass
>>578903113didnt hon have this
so are they taking warden out back and shooting him or are we gonna pretend the hero isn't cancer just because he looks like dick and balls>>578903241see pic>>578903351BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
>>578903337?????you off your meds bro?
the ragging on dynamo hesitation is right. dynamo players HAVE to stop trying to hit these epic clip worthy slop black holes. just the 1-2 man ult and swing the fight with advantage. its that fucking easy
>>578903113fortnite
>>578903413>the one non-russian team dominates EUSlavbros...
>>578903413oh right i forgot buff enjoyers was the team with (almost) no russians
>>578901252i say 1vX because it seems like if you have teammates near you, it seems like it's always gonna be a bad idea to use it if they're not pure spellcasters>>578902249dude will type shit like this then cry about controllers in apexi think it's fair to say your accuracy in a fight will be in the ballpark of 40-60% even with good trackingthere's a lot of shit going on, a lot of unpredictable movement options, and a lot of pressure6400 to essentially guarantee 100% of your DPS lands on your selected target while also freeing your mental stack would be very, very strong
>>578903497dominates worldwide***
IM DOIN IT>does nothing all game
>>578903413Imagine a region so retarded that you barely can make a team of competent playersAnd still you have to bring russian on the teamLMAO
>>578903581the power of s*ienceFUAAARK
>I'd never be able to deduce this player is playing with a trackballYeah because it looks like an aimbot.
fucking celeste breaking 8 vertebrae trying to carry the team
>>578903413>British chink named Carsonthe fuck?
>cultist>rapid recharge>recharging rushwhose build is this man using? stompnamo is not compy
>>578903691even NA thinks that EU are the better players. Cope. Except e*do but he's a zoomer turbofaggot
>>578903750surely a chinese person would never cheat at a video game
>pick hero whose power budget is spent on his ult>dont ult?
>>578899653>that way her 1 could maybe be a real ability at higher than froglo People always say this but Grace win rate doesn't drop below 50% until ascendant that's the top 1% there's only a few people in this thread in that ranked I'm not one of them are you?
>night shit acts like rem is a surprise bad pick???
amerilard cope central in here
>>578903950I mean the idea is that if her 1 was better they could move more of her power out of 2 (mostly) and 4. Of course I don't perfectly melee her skulls all the time but I sure as shit would prefer if the skulls were stronger if it meant the wall and tombstone was less aids
>>578903893I can believe it is legit tracking since I am unfamiliar with trackball mice but what I cannot believe is that anyone who has ever used a mouse in a video game would look at zerqqy's footage and not think he was aimbotting.
>>578903575>dude will type shit like this then cry about controllers in apex you're projecting I don't think anyone has said anything about Apex in his threat>6400 to essentially guarantee 100% of your DPS lands on your selected target while also freeing your mental stack would be very, very strong 100 % of your DPS but 0% of your team's DPS it might have some value in a 1V 1 but every other 6400 item provides more value with much less downsides also unless the bullets curve around corners it's still only just aim assist
>>578904665It only stops gun for teammates, if you read the original item idea.Nothing stopping your teammates from casting spells to hit the magnet'd target
leviathan already threw
>no graves banpick it pussy
Six divine barriers incoming.
>>578904067 I'm not against a grave rework or redistributing some of her power but people that pretend like Graves is only good in low ELO are deluding themselves outside of eternus Graves win rate doesn't get lower than 50% and Below ascendant she consistently has one of the highest win rates in the game
>>578904562I think its because you're used to watching his highlights, since that's all he posts. He's nowhere perfect, look at this timestamp for example, he fumbles his aim against this paradox a lot. He also doens't like buying resto shot against non-fat characters in lane because he thinks its too hard to hit.https://youtu.be/ND1_08-H-K8?t=709I think he's just young and really good at aiming. That's the kind of player who dominates a game that is still so early in its competitive life like Deadlock.
>>578904948I'm not a Gravesdownplayer but I do think her kit is inherently flawed, hence my post.
content patch is not comingI give uptime to afk till october
>Gravesdid they buff her or something? what happened?
>Mo and Graves last pickslmao
>>578905117i think they're playing gun graves instead of spirit graves in high ranks/pro play?
>>578905117people are finally waking up to this busted character like they did for mcginnis
>>578904948Please i know i am never getting trough you guys but THERE ARE NO WIN RATES. Tracklock has NO API ACCESS. They HAVE NO ACCESS TO STATISTICS. The only stats they have is for people who voluntarely submit their shit to them. If i'm going to be VERY, VERY generous and say 10% of the playerbase does this, that's still not relevant stats. Its not fucking real
>>578905117Counterpick getting counter-counterpicked
there's no fucking way leviathan even has a chance this game right
oh boy, can't wait to see a surge of Graves in my shitlow
>>578905117People started building spirit instead of pure gun.
>>578905117She's a good counter to tanky, grounded characters like Abrams and Warden. She's also bad against fliers, who BE don't have. She might get gaped by apollo though
>>578905286shitlow players dont watch dlns
>>578904774>>578904774 I know that but you or the anon I was responding to said 100% DPS I assume we both understood we were talking about gun damage otherwise that point doesn't make any sense also if you read the original post it never said full auto aim it said >(think pseudo autoaim/aim assist). so you wouldn't even be getting 100%
>>578905373i don't even play ranked and yet i've been watching dlns since 2024
>>578905373I am watching, very carefully
based leviathan picking graves into the team that was already 100% favored to win so the downplayers in this thread can jerk themselves off about how the hero is bad when they lose the game they were already guaranteed to losehats off to whichever leviathan player reads this thread
>SanyaWhat the fuck
>>578905373I haven't played anything but Street Brawl since it came out and I still watch it.
>>578905187>THERE ARE NO WIN RATES okay so we're just going off vibes in my opinion Graves is really strong
>>578905530didnt parry the heavy melee and tried to fight a support in a gun fight early (they have the highest dps in the game lol)
Should I be running Infuser as Victor every match? I was trying a build without it and multiple teammates threatened to report me for throwing
>>578905438I am the item idea guy, but not the guy you replied to. The idea was you basically get a "circle/sphere" around the magnet'd person and if your bullets/reticle (not sure) is within that circle/sphere the bullets magnetize to the target. You basically get some wiggle room for your aim. You still have to actually play the game, but it makes aiming much easier. That was the idea, anyway.
>>578905258but muh Celeste
>>578904665>Spend 6400 for aim assist? Even if your teammates could shoot at them how is that not a complete waste of money?>100 % of your DPS but 0% of your team's DPS it might have some value in a 1V 1you should read the first line of the post you're replying toignoring the described function of the item, a T4 aim-assist item would be pretty valuable. even if it "only" bumped your accuracy by like +20% (so 40-60 -> 60-80), that's pretty good, no? that's a 33-50% increase in DPS(also the apex thing isn't really projection, more of a shot-in-the-dark meme. it's kind of inverse projection i too am one of these controller-aim-assist-haters)
>>578905721better question, why would you not run infuser on victor?
>>578896489that's because it hasn't been true since 2021 at the very latest.
>>578905798I don't know, I suck at the game and someone from this thread mentioned that they liked skipping it in favor of getting Refresher early
>>578905286what the fuck is this image
>>578905472>>578905476>>578905572Casual GAWDS... I-
>>578905721if you are playing regular spirit Victor it's basically mandatory, other sources of spirit lifesteal are too weakthere's nothing else in the game that will literally get you from 1% HP to full other than infuser'd pain battery on a couple of people
>>578905939?
>>578905798nigga did I just catch you trying to think for yourself?
>>578905258BE has Abrams, Dynamo and Rem. Leviathan just can't do midboss. And midboss is the single most important side objective in the game. If anything Night Shift has show us that Deadlock has a big problem with team comps that just dominate midboss so much that nothing else even matters
>actually ult on Dynamo>w-win?Uh wait a second
>doorman ults me>i get gutshotted by venator as it finishes>i fly across the gap at mach speed right into the elevator>get out in .4 secondsthanks venabro
>>578905997least zesty middle eastern ""man""
>>578905997this is the target audience that valve thinks will sell their game
>>578906282kek match id?
How do I build for damage properly?
>>578876541Veil walker is honest to god just better. It lets you get a solid greenspike with it and TC.Spirit Drifter and Gun Drifter are both solid, but I think Spirit Drifter has more early game impact. That and focus lens + spirit spike + max rend does an insane amount of fucking damage. It's retarded.
>>578906364what does this meanthis question has one gorillion answers dependent on which hero youre playing
>>578906282The Lord provides
>>578906427Ivy has a lot of skin potential for different jobs she's trying
>>578906503i got a job for her if you know what im sayiiiin
>veil walker m1I've seen enough buff Warden
>empty dreams giga-throwing on pocket AGAINpoor guy, just mental, just mental
>>578906364>Buy weapon damage, Fire rate, bullet resist shred.>Have a way to shoot more bullets, either by sliding for inifinite ammo, quick reloading, or Titanic magizines.Viola
https://files.catbox.moe/t5morn.jpg
>>578893748>Infernus>Ivy at Home>Abrams but gay and retarded>Calico but better designed
>>578906670>dying on a hero with 100000 seconds invuln and a 1000 second delayed escape
>>578906670that guy should get cut, he's a weak link
>>578906732not canon
>>578906445I mean are there certain must have items that synergise together for good damage on spirit dps' and the same for m1 dps'. I'm using pocket
>>578902894The matchmaking update did nothing to improve things lol
>>578906732go away pentagon
>>578906870each hero benefits differently, thankfully.
cunny
>>578906829>get cut from two teams in a row because playing like ass on pocketthat would be sad
GRAVES UPPLAYERS???OUR RESPONSE?
just ignore the faggot, he'll go away on his own. No (you)s for him.
>>578906670>>578906789>>578906829>>578906991>living up to the namesad
It is kind of funny to think how any pro data is completely tainted due to, like what that one ritualposter says, incestuous pro playBE is consistently dominating every EU team to the point that it might as well be "Any heroes BE picks wins, any heroes the team against them picks loses"
>>578906870ObviouslyOn-hits are good with eg. ricochet and generally good with each other. Escalating synergizes well with spirit burn. Rapid recharge synergizes well with recharging rush. etc etc.
>>578906763>Calico but more iconic>>578906870You gotta think about how items will benefit your abilities. Pocket has a lot of AoE slop that benefits from Range increases for example. Read all the spirit items and pick the ones that seem like you can benefit the most from.
>>578907146just a month and some ago they were loosing and winning all the same.
>>578907029>DynamoMan took these dumbasses long enough to remember he didn't get nerfed as badly as they thought he did
>>578907146>incestuous pro playincest hero when
>>578907263Would be based to have a Habsburg hero
>>578907029In the world's most predictable result she's getting victimized by apollo every single fight
>tfw you dont get your preferred hero but the person who did is playing like shit with them
>>578906597th-thank you mommy
Shouldn't Graves be the one to get Heroic Aura? Why the fuck does Mo have it
>>578906991pocket is pick/ban atm, you need your pocket player to be a menace if they give him up. if not, you're that much weaker in draft.
>>578907459>Opponent gets my preferred hero>It counters my 2nd preferred hero which I actually got
is seven shit? is that why they die 10 times in the first minutes of the game?
>>578907632seven sux in lane he's a scaler>is that why they die 10 timesno they just suck
>>578907529silence chud. dey are pro playuhs you are froglow
mayne levi might actualy win this one
>>578907632Seven is THE character that gets to 32k souls and then is ready to be played.Early on he can end the game fast if your laners manage to die to him over and over, but that should not be happening, Seven's 1v1 isn't that great till you get duration on his 3 and toxic bullets.
>needs 1 or more stam items and also be a strafe god to move half as well as other heroes>need charge ability item or always struggle with ammo like this Graves is, always on 1 charge>also maybe get some items to abuse your gun>and duration for her everythingbuilding Graves sucks. you aren't spending money to get stronger, you're spending to cover your massive weaknesses
i thought the pro players all insist silver is s tier
buff enjoyers? more like throw enjoyers
>>578897229I HAVE A PILLOW!
Lystic legitimately just threw the game by going too early with seismic impact
game dev in chat
me when i throw
>>578908013This book better save my ass!
>>578907896B tier is still lie three tiers too high
has mo ever been in a state where he isn't some sort of elo cheat code?
>buff enjoyers somehow get back in the game againEvery time lmao
NEW THROW JUST DROPPED
>>578907182Deadlock devs wish they could make anyone as iconic as Bazz. The tranny in the roster, Pocket, is boring as fuck.
watching zerggy's pov it looks like he misses 60% of his shots
>Rem in shitlow breathes wrong near a friendly sinner>4 autists in mic who haven't pushed a lane or done anything but jungle since the 8 minute mark: REMMMMMM you're not supposed to take the hecking friendly sinners only the enemy ones!>Rem in high elo takes friendly sinners>His team thinks "Splendid, now I can pressure the map instead of spending time off map to secure our sinners"
Why do my teammates run away from my reanimation as Victor
these teams are going throw for throw
Some KINOS tonight
>>578908037Of course its fucking Hopoo. Didn't he design Graves to be an annoying faggot?
>>578908263Hopoo has designed almost entirely bad characters."Hopoo is the lead developer of the heroes Vyper and Sinclair,[2] and also worked on Calico, Holliday, Mina, Paige, and Victor.[3][4]"Vyper is broken (overpowered) Sinclair is broken (literally), Calico, Holliday, and Mina are all aids to play against, Paige and Victor are for mouthbreathing retards and Victor is also overpowered.
>>578908172they draft mogged lev too hard, even playing like complete retards they'll win
>>578908389kneel before hopoo
hoot my goat
>>578908226If you ever put a helper in our sinners i'm reporting you for griefing, fuck you you stupid rem faggot
>Pick Graves>Get outdamaged by Rem>Lose
>yoshi playing marvel rival>already took chrono shields from marvel rivals>already put in a global ult nerf from marvel rivalsSo what else is Yoshi going to take from Marvel Rivals and put into this game?
>>578908226Just tell them if they want the Sinners they have to actually do them. Sinners left up on your side of the map is a detriment to your team.
Wow buff enjoyers won.... again.... what is this, tenth week in a row?
>>578908592captain america
>>578908462I'll kneel on his neck.
Graves upplayers? Anything you want to say?
>>578908592He should add The Hulk
>>578906342now that i watch it back it could be a number of things
gray alien hero when?
celeste is now 2W and 9L on night shift
She sure did a lot this game, lel
>>578908641I stopped watching Night Shift because the games are the same ~15 characters being picked because the game has dogshit balance and of those 15, very few are even fun to watch. No, I don't want to watch Celeste abuse movement bugs to get out of literally any bad engagement for free for the 100th time.
>>578908665>Tank>If played optimally is virtually unkillableI hope he does.>>578908786That's Silver
>>578908571>pick (x) hero against BE>looseapplied to dynamo last game too btw
Can I go to sleep? Is it safe? No patch?
>>578905481Lmao this nigga literally called it
>>578908870>That's SilverBut Hulk is actually good...
>Pick Mo>LoseWe have you now...
>>578908903yoshi always gives at least a day heads up before a major patch. And if it's the item patch then who even cares anyway, sleep would be more exciting. Go my friend.
>auto aim attack>auto aim skill>aoe cc>summoning creeps to play the game for yougraves might be the best designed moba character kit of all time
>>578908226There's some intense anti-Rem brainrot when it comes to sinners. Or sinners in general which is funny because shitters still never do them.
>>578909210that's how summoner heroes usually go
Why no hate on the doorman pick there? He was quite cosmetic in the late game.
>>578899979and 6 foot. cant forget that.
>>578909253whenever an ultra shitter learns some "pro strat" they start to religiously worship it
Why does my winrate become like 30% in low prio? Does that queue just ignore rating as part of the punishment or what? I need a single win to get out and it's just impossible.
>see Graves picked up in a competitive setting>excellent, now I can learn something new and pick up new items for my build>the so called pro player buys terrible items and fucking feeds
>>578909753You're only playing with other low prio players. Scum. Worst of the worst. Its the hell you made for yourself.
>>578891327There are basically 3 builds, 1 of them sucks, one of them is very gimmicky, and the third is most flexible and has room for adjustment.The jar builds all suck, you immediately lose to ricochet, so even though in theory its the most damage, most uptime, and has a bunch of advantages, it sucks in practice because jar is very easy to counter and very awkward to consistent value out of due to the targeting.then you get to the gun buildsand the gun builds are kind of just very midshe has the lowest gun damage in the game and gun damage scaling, so increasing your damage doesn't do much, so you basically just play an on hit effect build and ricochet to make your hits aoe and just try to stand near people and give them giga gun aidsbut you are really squishy and need like 20k of items to function + anything else you need to not just immediately die.finally you got the wall builds, being more zombie focusedyou basically just build around the zombies you get from ult and wallyou use the really good wall CC to help your team and the zombies it summons for damagein the early game this build really sucks for farming because of the really long CD of wall and if you are not maxing jar and building around jar charges, but once you get cooldown stuff its finethe zombies also help you farm and hit creeps, they only explode themselves against heroes and buildingsyou basically just build spirit items, cooldown, duration is really good to, heroic aura early, and then "whatever you need", so very often some shielding items and some mobility
Went 0-13 as Calico bros. I'm visiting the noose aisle next time I go to the store...
>>578909904I really feel like vortex would be a really good purchase for wall graves, but its also so hard to justify spending 6k souls on it when you already have to buy so much shit on her to make sure you don't get farmed
>>578909989remember to pick out a stool on the way out too
need more frontliners doko
>>578909989Same bro same. Last Calico game I played my top damage was Torment Pulse.
>>578910108is Warden considered a frontliner?
>Don't get my main>Instead someone else on my team gets him>Proceed to feed on himDoes anyone know how the game calculates who gets what hero?
>>578910390In the games api? yes
>>578910065slowing hex and vortex web are really good on her yeah. A little bit expensive to justify vortex web, but its definitely not badthe issue I find is you often have too many spirit items you want to build to do enough damage that you have less room for utility spirit items.If you have teammates who are doing enough damage you can completely avoid this issue, but otherwise yeah its tough to fit them in.There are just so many good spirit items for her that it ends up not getting bought not because its bad but because its not as good as other options.
This Achilles guy looks like he could be a teacher
they are clearly working on the update todayhopoo is going to post something in the next hourtrust the plan
>Deathy playing TFT on streamthe situation is grim
>>578910786the norwood reaper comes for us all...
WTF is this matchmaking? Of my last normal matches I'm 3W 13L. There's something wrong with this algorithm, it can't make balanced matches
>>578910845pizza index says otherwise
>>578905795 they're already items that give you comparable DPS they also have utility and no downsides why get 20% increase accuracy but make it so your team can't do any gun damage to the person you're shooting at when you can get Ricochet which gives you 18% fire rate and let you prop all your debuffs on multiple opponents assuming your accuracy doesn't decrease when you buy the item that's a flat 18% increase in DPS with utility Glass Cannon gives you 80% weapon damage what a maximum of a 56% increase in fire rate Burst Fire gives you 10% fire rate by default with a conditional 32% all while still letting your teammate to shoot at the guy you're aiming at it absolutely could be useful sometimes but generally it sounds like a throw item
>>578910917New set today tho
>>578910519happens to me with celeste
>>578911039they just came back from shanghai watching TI so they're getting chinese food instead
>>578909904why do people keep saying ricochet counters skull-centric graves. it's good against her sure but ricochet only hits 2 other targets. echo shard T3 skulls means 12 heads, aka you need to shoot 4 separate skullsthis also ignores the many targets who will not have and games which will not feature ricochet. i don't think it's considered a good or meta item currently, there's so many good T4s competing for the slot alreadymaybe i need to play it more to understand. the games i did play of her, echo skulls felt incredibly oppressive once you got online. i guess there's also the point of wall/ghouls being best at defensive(ish) space control and skulls being about aggressively taking space, and my playstyle's generally about maximal aggression (as in i'm not chucking skulls at you, i'm chucking myself and also 12 fuckin skulls at you), so maybe it just falls into a different-strokes kind of thing
eskay is showing bikini pics right now
>>578909904>1 of them sucksif you think about it, the gun build REALLY sucks
>>578911406why do girls suck so bad at video games
>>578911830>girls
>>578906597next op
>>578911930honest question, is eskay an actual woman?
>>578911830
>alleged "pro" players>never build spirit billy
>>578912408no
>>578912408if you have to ask...
>>578911406fucking yuck
>>578912660>>578912685Forgive me, I try not to interact with those types of people, so my acumen in recognizing tells is not as refined as some of your guys. The thing that caused me to ask in the first place is their little avatar they use on their streams. Something about the way it is drawn makes me think it may be someone with AGP, and not a biological women.
>>578912408nigga played reddit Lucio back in OW you think he's a girl?
Its so fucking over dude there's no update today
>>578912563You keep saying "spirit Billy" but that's not a thing. I DO build spirit on Billy but its still a gun build.
>>578913814Tank. Buster.
>>578913814>build mostly spirit in Billy >actually its a gun build
I have seen enough, Doorman is dead. Someone go take Joe Chuck's shoelaces away and put him on suicide watch.
Nerf mokrill
>>578914470yup
you should be able to use cultist sacrifice on any teammate that has ten deaths or morethey might as well be troopers at that point
>>578908152the patch after they nerfed him but before they buffed him
look at this fucking miserable game that was over 10 minutes agothey need to make it easier to finish
is debuff resist a meme? even with 42% it feels like im wearing nothing at all
>Cheater wants to stomp noobs>Cheater gets mass reported>Ends up in low prio where they can stomp as many noobs as they want??? Ban these niggas
>>578911368>aka you need to shoot 4 separate skullsyou shoot 0 skulls the skulls die while you shoot other heroesricochet counters jar because you spell that is meant to make heroes specifically stop and deal with its high damage gets immediately cleared without anyone even seeing it get used because again, it takes a single hit to kill them and ricochet will bounce to them while other heroes are being shot and they get immediately cleared with no one noticing.If you genuinely think that people are stopping to shoot the skulls and how much effort it takes to still clear with ricochet you are actually fucking retarded>will not have and games which will not feature ricochetThe most popular gun carries all build ricochet right nowStandard wraith build for example right now is tesla into ricochet.Even if you are vsing a hero who normally might only sometimes get ricochet, if you see a graves doing jar build you can just... build ricochet?>just don't do skull build if you vs wraith, haze, or mirage who build ricochet every game>or against heroes who very can flex into ricochet depending on the game like venator, infernus, and moreidk what kind of games you get in but that is like 80% of matches you are going to have an enemy who can trivially counter you and very often will incidentally counter you. And no a small counter, absolutely hard counter and skull fuck your build into oblivion without needing to do anythingSkulls offers no cc or utility, its a very slight slow, so skull builds which require more items to do damage instead of being able to build more utility are going to have significantly less tools to shut down enemies.If you want to play a spirit damage dealer who keeps casting a spell on enemies that does solid damage with charges, you have a million fucking choices, and graves is the worst at that. Play sinclair and bolt people, doorman and bell people, ivy, and so many better choices for that.Even if gun build sucks its unique to her
>Pick mcginnis>winit's that shrimple
>>578914869surrendering is psyop'd cucklord behavior. It trains you to give up whenever something starts getting a bit tough. Go back to League of Goyim if you want to bend the knee for your opponent
>>578914963>The most popular gun carries all build ricochet right nowif by carries you mean only wraith, yeah true
>>578914934it's funny when someone buys curse to stop you and it only lasts 1 and a half seconds.
>>578915085yeah that is true many of the gun heroes aren't carriesI should say many of the gun damage heroes build ricochetwraith is just also an incredibly popular gun carry who builds rico and its absurd to me to try to play a hero right now who gets incidentally hard countered by fucking wraith lmao
>>578915085You should be building ricochet on any gun character with a on hit ability
>>578915395mind-blowing analysis
Start building ricochet on mina
NS can barely put on 2 entertaining matches a week, one of them being a bo1 every time. This does not have a future as an e-sport
Ricochet on Doorman
Build Ricochet on Graves
Start building vampiric burst on drifter
Buying greater expansion should increase the distance/damage fall off range of heroes that have on hit passive abilities
start buying gun items on Venator
>>578915764The team fights look terrible from a viewer perspective. I have no idea why they are forcing full team fights so often, this game would be so much better if most of the game was 1v1,2v2,3v3s and saving the full team fights for end game base pushesI hate the term slop because it's so lazy, but in this case it's actually the appropriate word to use
ricochet isn't nearly as good as some people think it is, and you're getting more value by buying other items and killing single targets one at a time fastermost heroes will only take chip damage from rico
>chip damage downplayer Stfu boosted infernus shitter
>>578916226they probably think ricochet is a damage item for wraith
Match quality was fucking garbage today. Did classes start or something?
So, is Haze bullet or spirit? Or like a weird hybrid because of Fixation?
>>578916392Does Mina have any real friends?
>>578916392>It's wednesday you dumb vampire bitch???
>sheriff character with inherited revolver from famous gunslinger doc holliday>doesnt even get gunspike>infact, you only get one gun item, recharging rushHotpoo explain
>>578917084i like recharging rush + headhunter
>>578916652I feel like canonically she's inevitably going to end up in a betty and veronica trio with victor
>>578917084I've seen a streamer complain about this very thing.
>>578917084>exploding barrel does damage over time because...
>>578911042holy shit i'm not arguing for this hypothetical T4 to have a downside. read nigga readalso you fundamentally misunderstand the difference between a DPS increase and More DPSglass cannon, fire rate increases, etc., these all add to a pool of increased so-and-so stat. like, total hyperbole, but if you have 300% increased weapon damage already, then glass cannon is only improving your DPS by 20%. as in, it has diminishing returnsMore is a multiplier. lucky shot gives you ~30% More DPS. regardless of how much orange you have already, it will always multiply your DPS by ~1.3like if your accuracy is 0%, your DPS is multiplied by 0. if your accuracy is 100%, your DPS is multiplied by 1.and this would not be a 20% increase in accuracy. it would be a hypothetical flat +0.2 to your natural human 0.4-0.6 accuracy, which means improving your DPS multiplier, which means More DPS, albeit depending on what your accuracy already is. if your target is mo ulted you're already at 1.0 accuracy so +0.2 isn't going to do anything there
>>578914934no its great, i buy blood tribute on drifter and watch as 5+ heroes debuffs all slide right off.
>>578902016they're much better than you but you need to put a lot more quote marks in there """"Pro""""when this game actually launches and we get TI: Deadlock edition most if not zero of these people will be in that tournament
>>578917126Headhunter is one of those items that sound like it'd be good because of crackshot synergy but ultimately you're better off just getting more spirit or green>>578917142Guess I should start streaming since I'm part of the /hivemind/ now>>578917163You get to build EE now so I'm not complaining.
zerggy will be the best player at the first International
>>578916331it is because it generates a ton of cards
>ivy bannedivy downplayers....
>mokrill pocket Poppers pupils win again
>>578916301tbf you need positive bonus and at least 50% meter to do any meaningful chip damage.
Uhm... downplayers???
>>578917418Zerggy will be this game's Dendi, fan favorite, good at the game year 1, wins TI1, doesn't grow as as player, left in the dust as the pro scene improves
>>578917354i mostly like having gun spike on holliday to be able to finish people off after all the burst from barrels, headhunter just adds more burst to the burst combo. sometimes it's alch fire if i have gun carries popping off and want to add some bullet res shred into the mix to help them
>>578917837ivy is made of stone why the fuck is she bleedingshe should be crumbling in her low health portrait
>>578917892I find I rarely have trouble "finishing someone off" on Holliday. You're never out of jump pads which means no one is getting away from you, and with EE Spirit Burn Barrels they're constantly ticking even if they get away. I just find it unnecessary when I could just get more spirit/util/greens
>>578918052because shes a woman
they need to fix their dogshit ranked system. u can climb with 46% winrate so long as you use up your shields and play enough matches. the matches are decided by who has the least 46% 500 game retards and more 50%+wr actual human beings. fuck this shit until it's fixed also celeste needs to be nerfed again because whatever they did was barely a fucking nerf
>>578911042>>578917274another way to visualize the difference between "increased" and "more" is to look at something like suppressor-28% fire rate hurts a hell of a lot more at +0% fire rate compared to when you have +80% fire rate. because it's not multiplying your firerate, it's subtracting from your fire rate increases
>>578918304It's the first ever beta season can you relax man. If they're changing shit they're not doing it until October (next season)
>>578917418Deadlock will never have a TI thoughbeitDeadlock has zero "e-sports" potential, possibly the worst e-sport ever created. Also Valve doesn't care about e-sports anymore, they don't even run TI.
>>578917702>>578917837No one has ever downplayed Ivy. She is strong and everyone loves her more for it.
Start building Radiant Regen Holliday.
>>578918425least dishonest ivy downplayer award
abrams rape time
>>578918372lollmao even
>>578918304I don't think I mind people climbing with a sub50% winrate but they really should just make it 1 shield between subranks and 2/3 shields between ranksthe protection is eggregious right now
>>578918372>Deadlock has zero "e-sports" potential, possibly the worst e-sport ever created. Also Valve doesn't care about e-sports anymore, they don't even run TI.true statement
>>578918362>It's the first ever beta season can you relax man.hopefully it's the first and last
american bbc hits different... (big blue cock) (abrams)
>>5789183727 streamers just read you comment and committed suicidei hope you're proud of yourself
>longest content drought>this is in alpha playtest btwDOA
>>578918510no room
>>578918362even a literal drooling retard can tell that the system lets you climb with a negative winrate, and valve have been in the business for 30 years and have had games with ranked matchmaking for 14 years now. there is no fucking excuse to release such a garbage excuse of a ranked system. it's even worse that they thought such garbage was worth releasing mid content drought
deadlock is much more fun to watch than dota 2 and i enjoy watching dota 2deadlock is honestly one of the most watchable e-sports in my memory, it can get incredibly dynamic with all the movement
>phantom strike an ulting mina>he stays in the airdogshit item
they call him honest abe
>>578918670it's absolutely awful that you can climb with sub 50 and not you nor anyone else should need an explanation for that
>>578918847sell tankbuster
>>578918812and its not even well balanced, or even balanced often, to make up for it
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>>578918862>holy shit that holliday just bounced UP and then DASHED RIGHT>announcer falls out of his chair in complete bewilderment>members of the crowd start vomiting in excitement>medical team needs to be dispatched because people in the front row are having excitement seizures>china makes a country wide statement, banning Deadlock because it's having the same effect on the populous as Fentanyl>the designer for Rem commits seppuku out of shame and guilt because Sleepy Time won Chinguazu the 32nd World Tour and caused two small asian islands to go to war
>>578918652>Dotards think Deadlock will get the DOTA treatment from ValveThe only reason TI exists is because Gabe himself plays and likes DOTA. CS2 is a bigger and more successful game by every metric and has had zero TI's and zero personal messages from Gabe. Deadlock will have all the spectator problems that hero shooters have with a layer of MOBA autism to make it even more confusing.
>>578918670Its 5 shields in total for an entire rank.Then you get set to 2 shields if you have less than 2 when you go up a subrank.The reason people are able to hold ranks and do weird shield shit is because if you get stuck at the actual point of rank change, so your highest sub rank (there are still 6 I think?) and the lowest of the next rank you get 5 shields again because its a new rankYou can only climb 1 subrank with this "under 50% winrate" bullshit you are all talking about, from 1 to 2 of a sub rank if you winstreaked from sub rank 6 of the rank below it
>>578918862>it can get incredibly dynam-oooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WITH THE BLACK HOLEWE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS IN THE HISTORY OF DOTA
>>578918860>even a literal drooling retard can tell that the system lets you climb with a negative winrateIt would take a very long time, not enough considering the season length.
