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MGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.html

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Innocent Rules has been fully translated
NEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmc
SHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKw
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Japanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/
Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784

Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQ

You can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:
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You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:
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You can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:
https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/

Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):
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Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
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ToroToro Resistance's blog:
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Previous Thread: >>578867847
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>>579156289
Mini makes me hapy
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>follow tips of anons from here
>farm rocks and therefore emeralds
>mess up and realize I need Aquamarine for the sword upgrade (I use guns but I guess I have a sword for a reason and sooner or later I will need it)
>reset
>make 3 extra emeralds and an aquamarine
>time to fuck Iron Maiden
>Relationship 30
>give her an Emerald
>60!
>holy fuck
>try again
>Kazuya won't give another present so soon
>alright I will only need 2 of these I can bond with others
>he also won't give to other demon girls
Well FUCK
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>>579157574
Pretty sure you're supposed to be giving presents between grinding sessions
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https://mega.nz/folder/md1nhZoS#muuUovhlmEDaFNNa1_wJMA/folder/zNty0Z5b folder of the collab scenes

Very grateful for the Neris translation someone did, don't suppose someone could translate singularity's? I'm very curious about hers.
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>>579158307
idk why anyone would wanna see more of this hoe after seeing the paradox scenes with singularity.
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>>579158307
It’s difficult cause Luna Translator works by checking the in-game files. For a video it’d be the OCR function or something like that
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>mom you're getting a little too close

>>579158307
The anon that MTL'ed Lucifina's scene forgot to include the audio as well, has he reuploaded it anywhere?
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>>579159083
That's not Singularity anon, it's her definitely-not-fake-upgraded counterpart, Gula the Singularity Girl
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Reposting from the other bread:
From what I heard, the translation for part 3 is complete for the Ilias route and almost complete for the Alice route (no mention on how far along is the Chaos route).
How can I patch this with the bob mtl without fucking shit up, what files do I replace so I have the properly translated Alice/Ilias routes, but don't fuck up the MTL'd chaos route?
I'm a techlet with this kinda thing please help.
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>>579159289
her excuse is it isnt her son its just luka and lucifina
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>>579160150
Just download from f95. Fully patched. All three parts, all the scenes
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>>579158307
I've done some video TL's before but I have no idea how I could do this and have it not look like shit. Cleaning text from a transparent box with movement behind it... Too much effort for manual work, at least for my humble tools and technical level.
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>>579159083
Her TD scenes are much nicer. Good to see the cute design used for such.

>>579159289
Not to my knowledge, hopefully he gets around to it eventually.

https://mega.nz/file/Rlx3xT5T#HP7HFyhnh1wVkiCf2SGLqu8v2v_MpFbBP4w2Z7E2knI
https://mega.nz/file/Vh5TFLII#q2ET_3NmgG1xeY3wT5s2H8j2xiwd3zj7NX4LFBV_W9E

These are Neris's scenes translated, and I know it was a different guy who did them. For all I know, they decided they would do only Neris, due to her being the freebie.
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>paradox made cuck lore
>kill alice
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>>579161220
more creepy than cute.
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>>579163418
Did singularity rape the pixels?
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>>579164806
Why wouldn't she?
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Oh boy. what is it this time.
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This is a gag event isn't it.
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>>579165660
Peak incoming
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Shikimamo!
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>>579160315
I have the bob mtl 3.06 but no idea how to update the thing and would rather not need to redownload the entire lot
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Oh God. The humiliation ritual's not over yet.
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>>579165660
>>579166072
>>579166215
It is best we just pretend none of this is a part of the character at all. Sometimes you take a joke too far like an arrow in the knee.
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>>579166606
The only good thing to come out of this is she cant be raped by alma anymore as pleasure is nullified in her magical girl state.
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>>579167128
It's like the writers have never read Magical Girl doujins... Magical Girls are even weaker than Shotas.
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>>579167320
Magical girls are to be brutilized and beaten bloody not fucked.
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This is a shitpost. One half of me is laughing, the other couldn't feel more sorry.
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Oh no.
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>>579167560
Tentacles and demons won't reproduce on their own
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>>579167992
Reverse race change is now possible. You can now make luka GOD effectively or any waifu you want.
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>>579168448
Any race can become any race now. Shiiiit.
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>>579167320
Wait is there a doujin where a magical girl gets raped by a shota?
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>>579167992
Hey let's play anon what do you think you'd consider your waifu for this playthrough?
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>>579168876
My waifu you say? I actually can't say for sure. I haven't really felt enough of an emotional connection with a character to say for certain. So my favourite characters are
Laplace, Lucifina, Alma, Raphaela, Tamamo and Black Alice
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>>579157574
The gift and sex limit goes away with sleep, or if that doesn't work with tea.
You can also use requests to cum up to five time. Each time gives you 5 affection so you can get up to 25 affection if you do it all with one girl. I think.
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>>579169695
Im going to Alice.
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>>579167992
When and if you get Neris in your playthrough anon i'd like you to read her first h-scene request in the castle.
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The succsisiters destroy luddite again
Oh god damn it!
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>>579171546
LILITH STOP GOING FOR THE SHOTAS EVERYTIME god FOR 5 MINUTES.
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Ew.
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>>579167128
Doesn't Whore of Babylon come with pleasure resistance pierce?
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>>579171918
if you run to lilith's pussy instead of towards this bitch whom everyone is fucking certain is an asset they used somewhere they shouldnt as its a xelvy and condoms do not suddenly get that small as lilith wouldnt use condoms im pretty sure luka wants to go there cuz of how warm and nice it smells.
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>>579171938
she reflects pleasure and nightmare.
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>>579171546
I appeciate the Astaroth Train.
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>>579174801
I presume myusca's ass is to coincide with Asstaroth.
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>>579163231
>reina jobber
harpy anon, you've got some explaining to do...
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>>579175046
could be reffering to reina blowjobber bud dum tss.
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>>579171546
>>579171918
Oh lawd he's finally doing it... Prepare to see people SEETHE as soon as they wake up anon
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>>579175031
Yes.
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>>579175189
>>579171918
they could have done an entire thing exploring succubus and monster biology while shrunk but no instead we deal with that fucking thing or do shrinking shenanigans. trtr could have engaged with the size fetishes and just made luka half the size he normally is comparatively there stating that uh succubus shrinking magic is more effective on males or smtn.. idk. or we could have actually found out that uh the infection(dumb snake thing that shouldnt look the way it does) was actually slowly turning her cells into monstergirls thus fighting and potentially getting raped by cells which could be considered hot to some people but no just std snake monster. THERE WERE OPTIONS TRTR and you wasted the fucking size fetish episode on the fucking xelvy snake monster that clearly doesnt belong in her pussy with condoms that shouldnt be that size. and then we make her pussy a revisitable location later i dont care trtr you literally just hamfisted an excuse to make the echidna normal sized make lilith's pussy an actual fucking dungeon with more than 1 girl in it coward and make it revisitable.
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>>579175584
That's a weird melty.
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>>579175189
The only good part of this quest line is the part where the STD monsters goes into Promestine and she prepares to be killed to stop it only for Luka to get pissed off about people trying to die around him and going chaos mode again and then after this his entire party scolding him and him effectively pouting that he got scolded. this whole campaign is such a reminder being the judge and worldbreaker kinda gave Luka some small PTSD
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>>579176045
Agreed.
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>>579176045
>being the judge and worldbreaker kinda gave Luka some small PTSD

Judgement 000000: Luka Hein
You are unfit to enter the promise land.
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>>579146054
Never forget: UOOOOOOOH!

>>579167569
The funniest shit is that she is a genuinely powerful character.

>>579167992
THE RIDE ANON THE RIDE

>>579171546
>>579171918
oh dear
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>>579176141
It was peak. More peak than the otherside. This line alone is just too powerful.
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>>579176430
Judgement gave up and effectively let himself go after seeing he couldnt go anymore he judged himself and saw himself as unworthy. Worldbreaker just kept going AND GOING AND GOING until the world broke him.
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>>579176376
>THE RIDE ANON THE RIDE
Honestly? There’s not much reason to get all the races. I haven’t seen many new skills that can actually contribute to Luka’s kit. And I want to keep the races and jobs as relevant to the character as possible if you know what I mean.
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>>579177214
>Honestly? There’s not much reason to get all the races.
Sweet innocent child.
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>>579177214
Races have prerequisites of other races like demonoid requiring multiple races to even get into as an example. do some thinking from there.
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>>579177675
>>579177587
I’ve already unlocked the spirit of chaos if that’s what your referring to. I’ll wait for a new relevant race to pop up first
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>>579178442
I'm doing the Gendo pose waiting for your reaction(s).
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I have made Chaos into a succubus this time.

It is liable she's probably going to exploit luka's biggest weakness.. big tiddy onee-sans.. but probably wouldn't act it out entirely probably filling gaps with bratty behaviour that needs correction. Yeah he is consistently weak to pleasure, he is into big boobs and Promestein and the QnA stated he's more attracted to older sister archetype. she's already Neris' older sister run Luka. So my arguement would be that the Akhashic records would state luka is weak to big tiddy Onee-sans and now chaos is capitalizing on it here oh also due to her having being a fox earlier the entire backside of her clothes is kinda gone... take of that knowledge what you will. Unending pleasure until all things end. or attention seeking behaviour if she has already been corrected.
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>>579179146
Does any girl actually treat Luka those archetypes would? Alice and Sonya kinda do but they aren't THAT busty unless art inconstancy is a thing, by that I mean basically nagging him and spoiling him a few times.
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>>579179621
I dont think so sadly despite Promes lecture lmao. there's probably some random side character or Lilith (to a small degree)... in terms of main characters i dont think theres many that could count.
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>>579179146
Could be bigger (good job)
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>>579179965
SOMEONE ELSE DREW HER BIGGER A few threads ago. WAY BIGGER.
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https://files.catbox.moe/u6bof1.mp4
I tried doing the first stage of the collab event this time, I sorted the audio this time, hopefully there are no other issues
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>>579179146
Anon how could you corrupt her?
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>>579180046
BAsed anon recording their playthrough for knowledge.
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>>579180043
I know, I did that
It could also have been bigger
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>>579180098
This is not corruption it spawned from an idea i had instead where Instead of chaos having 3 of the same fight where you body her harder each time instead she goes through more phases or fights in total each one representing one or a few monstergirl types featured in game tops which also solves the major issue everyone has with chaos.. she doesnt look like a monstergirl she's just a human girl with big anime eyes for a final boss of monster girl quest you'd think it'd be a monstergirl. I posted the fox one a thread or two ago iirc. Also she sustains battle damage.. for now.. mostly to accenuate this phase.
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>>579180336
Unforgivable... At least you didn't turn her into a stutty elf.
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>>579180223
Wdym bigger.. i feel like those were already really big.. i like my monstergirls mobile and looking like they can rape me... easily at some point the boob feels like it's too much and she doesnt look like she can move very well.

But i guess its a matter of personal taste

Besides she can probably reshape her avatar however she wishes.. so if she wants to while paizuring you she can just grow them bigger to pin you down more easily.
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>>579180475
She cant be corrupted anon she's already corrupt.. by the force of chaos i feel like you kinda forgot the omnicidal rape thing if anything she's going to corrupt *you* Unless she's uh not(aka postgame) in this case she probably talked for Alma for 5 seconds and now she is going to compete with Neris for her dads attention in a horrific by human standards manner.
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>>579180604
>she's already corrupt
That's a cruel thing to say about your baby girl.
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>>579180672
I HAVE TO GO THROUGH LIKE 5 MORE PHASES TO CORRECT HER ASS BEFORE I CAN SAY SHE ISNT CORRUPT LONG ASS BOSSFIGHT. Besides the daughter consciousness wise is older than me now like by billions of years.. ontop of her having this weird pseudo existence beforehand, before even being concieved if anything technically im the baby compared to her.
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>>579180908
Skill issue. Slap her.
Ooooooooh
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>>579180476
I'm kinda just insane and like nonsense sizes
However, I like the way you think
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>>579181006
THATS WHAT IM DOING I HAVE TO FIGHT DRAW her like 5 more times. Though if i want to include giant as a race i'd probably have to get creative.. and a solutuon is to just shove luka in a box. why. cuz chaos can have a toybox that is labelled "super evil dungeon of superness that lets me win". that she can mess around with i guess like a dungeon she can physically interact with and maybe she is also the dungeon in like a hiruko sense of thing i dunno.
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>>579181132
Anon i think we are all insane.
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>>579157938
>>579169807
Oh really? That’s nice to know cause I thought it was going to be one of those games you can do it once per chapter or something like that
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>>579182748
sleep has a chance encounter for monsters tho iirc depending on where you sleep.
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Here we go.
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>>579183728
MAGIC BUS
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Cute!
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>>579183856
Make sure to head to her "entrance" if you get the chance keep doin it for a bit of funny dialogue.
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>>579184185
Ethically, it's over.
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>>579184185
Wait wait, which entrance? As in where you start from?
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>>579184264
I mean head to her pussy from the utero iirc.
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Kek. Ain't that a familiar shape.
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>>579184503
If only you could destroy the place. A few cuts in there, a few missing organs...
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>>579184603
I like Lilith so nah
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what the fuck this general is over 5 years old
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>>579184629
>he like a diddler, a rapist, a retard and a murderer
rip
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Jesus. Good going Luka!
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>>579184793
Actually its quite a lot older. It used to go under monster girl quest general way way way back iirc.
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>>579184863
>diddler
bit late for that
>retard
not really?
>murderer
soldier in a inter dimensional war buddy, it happens.
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>>579184863
To be fair after this quest she even gets disturbed by her actions as this was involuntary she literally ends up depressed and outright doesnt want to have as much sex as she used to. Luddite 1 she had a form of excuse rape the rapists you know. Also keep in mind she's Minagi's kid she can probably be set straight.
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>>579185046
Boohoo I'm crying for them.
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ooh nice!
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>>579184954
Morrigan is the stupid one also isnt everyone a diddler. Luka is canonically barely legal in setting.
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>>579185131
Make fun of the succ prison ones all you want. these ones arent actively trying to be assholes. Is morrigan stupid. yes.

A lot of their more malicious actions is literally down to war. if one can excuse ilias i see not why you cant excuse these 3 fuckers who have probably not murdered as much as your own mother who people are fine with existing.
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>>579184868
Can we say that his attack was folded a thousand of time?

>>579185145
Lilith Origin is pretty great.
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>>579183728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAYhNHhxN0A
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Hey uh question is a lot of Goku's friends in dragonball would they be considered a dindu by this thread's terminology because i noticed that every single one of his friends has tried killing or being an asshole to goku. Including bulma who's first instinct was shoot gun at child.
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>>579185583
Humans were directly responsible for turning King Piccolo evil btw.
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>>579185765
I mean technically the current piccolo is literally kami's evil literally torn off then reincarnated from an egg of their dad then refused with kami. Piccolo is complicated. and a slug so slug girl joke goes here.
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>>579185583
They talk about that actually, they also don't deny what they did and who they were and no one makes excuses for them
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>>579185583
Goku friend stop being evilmaxing and change and grown as a person they still expect to go straight to hell with no pardon and don't expect everyone to forgive them or make excuse.A lot of them end up in hell when they died till they paid off their karma debt for genocide
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Ilias cant go to hell because she already made and owns heaven.
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>>579186572
MGQ verse is already hell anyway to escape you need to find true oblivion and fade into nothing
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new sucubus prison game straight up has a genocide giantest scence it fucking disgusting man
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>>579186745
So getting raped by Chaos?
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>>579187061
may chaos take the world! May chaos take the world!
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Ooh.
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Oh yep. It's just straight up cthulhu.
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>>579187409
please do not look at this npc's trait and post it's name. it is a cognitohazard.
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>>579163231
>kill ilias
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>>579163231
>Kill God

Ah yes the jrpg special.
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>>579187561
i meant Sayori.
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>>579187409
I always had a theory, but seeing someone play with the All-Talk mod, really makes me believe the apocalypse goobers were a way of explaining where some of the weirdo monster species that have no Ancestor came from.
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>>579168798
https://hitomi.la/search.html?language%3Aenglish%20female%3Amagical_girl%20male%3Ashota%20female%3Arape%20-male%3Arape%20-male%3Agender_change%20-male%3Agender_morph%20-male%3Agender_bender%20-female%3Afutanari%20-male%3Afeminization%20-female%3Anetorare%20-male%3Adomination_loss
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Oho?
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>>579171546
Fucking Whale Island visiting cougar.
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>>579188297
Shotadom is rarer than lolidom i swear.
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Pretty alright design. I was hoping for more octopus on the bottom and less on the top though
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>>579171546
E(at)D(at)P(enis)445
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>>579188049
You're probably right.
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Oh shit! Even the King in Yellow's coming over here!
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>>579189096
Fun lovecraft fact Cthulhu is just a priest to things much higher than even it.
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Cute!
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>They're so powerful that need to enter a higher dimension in order to metaphorically roll up their sleeves to dish out their real strength
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Well ain't that convenient.
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>>579188724
Not by much. (Well, don't know about lolidom but the shotadom tag is kind of underused. There plenty of pics that should have it but don't. Such are the struggles of people with height difference fetish...)
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>>579189750
You gotta factor in games with general femdom with lolis in them like paradox. Hence why i said what i did.
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>>579189339
>Character known for their face that looking like a fancy party mask.
>Just hidden eyes and otherwise normal face.
BOOOO!!!
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Poor angels.
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>>579190267
the pallid one right? or was it a shade of grey i forgot.
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>>579189096
Elves=Alf/Angolmois
Mermaids=Banshee/World Drown
Mollusks/Worm Summoners/Wormiel=Dimension Eroder
Vampires=7DS
Insects=Hivemind, or are from the same plane of existence as it at least. Hiruko is not the Ancestor, it's been debunked.
Fairies=Cosmos
Dragons=Ancient Dragons/Koron
Akaname, maybe other Sea Dwellers=The Nameless One
Phoenix species maybe?=Dark Phoenix
Giants/Cosmic Woman=Star Eater
Witches?=TAKO
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>>579189946
The tags are from an image board not a collection site.
Also if you apply that logic then you gotta also factor in games with general maledom with shotas in, like Kuroinu.
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>>579190926
Probably exposure bias despite being a bit of a fag i tend to lurk in female oriented shit more.
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>>579190561
People are gonna debate whether koron had kids cuz she seems to be the type to kill em if too weak and considering kids start off weak by default. Others also factor in the fact that some dragons may look more birdlike saja has both reptile and bird traits.
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.>melty bat recruited
>passive 10x steal rate.
>ooooh. Nice. and I think I can just change her race so she can learn every steal skill!
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>>579187289
Source?
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>>579191153
It's too bad that she come up so late, but you probably haven't stolen much have you?
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>>579191375
I farmed large medals and some mats with steal, but no not too much yet.
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>>579191079
I think it's really just the Old Dragons that connect the species not her. If you speak with that Chinese Dragon girl, she mentions to have genes from some unknown source. Fatty did intake their genes after all, so she put them in other places. Frankly, I think TrTr was being cheeky with Saja and her connections with dragons. I can't say it was a retcon, since Koron is a super important part of Fat Alice's character, but TrTr looked to have used interchangeable Kanji for dinosaurs, which are the Harpies original forms.
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>>579190421
I was talking about Hastur. One of the most famous scenes in King of Yellow is the titular character (not explicitly stated that he's Hastur, but most have concluded this is the case) explains he not is weaing a mask.
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>>579191415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6y3dsKTWU
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>>579189750
Gelbooru isn't so good at tagging, honestly. It's miles better than rule34, though.
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>>579171546
Her full government name is Lilith Epstein.
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MERLIN!?
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>>579190361
>their smiles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bjrXHibpeY
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Reminder Tamamo No mae 9 tailed golden furred fox and Minagi Great whore of babylon have the philosophy of every man woman and kid should be fucked by them equally.

This is clearly where Lilith got it from her mother and aunt.
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Anon not even being remotely annoyed about the lillith sisters dryfishing despite it being hyped up since the beginning is really funny to me
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>>579192296
Have him talk with his wife in the PC.
He threw away a happy marriage for stupid adventure.
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>>579192421
>wife
sorry, who is his wife?
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>>579192535
Alright how much do you know about fae lore. Since this is a male fairy what do you presume their name would be?
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>>579192381
Based philosophy.
>>579192419
I mean, it's not that surprising? Monster girls drying people to death has been memed on by the game since the VN
>>579192572
D'OH OF COURSE. WHO ELSE CAN IT BE!? TITANIA!!!!
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>>579192535
Titania saying this unspoiled would spoil anyone of the reveal of monsterboy. Not a halfbreed not whatever nero and neris are just flat out monsterboy. Not a nephilim which is what luka is.. or in the case of paradox luka is a eldritch abomination due to all the shit he goes through and prome shoves in him.
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>>579192705
It's more about the fact that you're forced to watch it go down several times in a row over a few cities and people generally hate that. It's not suprising, but still mostly feels like trtr wanted to put in some more succubus dryfishing because that's his thing
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>>579192738
I don't think any other race has monster boys.
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>>579192296
This reveal makes Marcellus in the og vn trilogy even more based as he convinced a monster to tag along to fight the Monsterlord and also because of it Alice killed one of her own as a kid.. holy crap.
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>>579192738
You can make an argument that this is one of those unique cases since Fairies are not from Fatties' original stock, and only came into the monster fold later on.
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>>579192882
Dont some of the collab males count to some degree if i recall.
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>>579192934
I'm not sure how it makes Alice's accidental murder any more horrific. she wasn't even in the right enough mind to notice
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>>579192934
Monsters don't even really feel like they give much of a single fuck about the monster lord aside from them being strong, desu. It's why I think the war of the three monster lords was never going to have any bite to it. the monster lord is irrelevant unless they're black alice
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>>579193065
Entirely different games so doesn't count really.
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>>579192991
So what is the fae lore i thought they were all just kinda nature spirits or weird even for monsters already even before paradox came out due to qna lore about the uh 4 spirits having bodies made of darkness but their soul of the element and those are fae.
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>>579193065
Not really. Some got superpowers but they're not monster people.
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>>579193067
More trauma for Alice to have if she noticed that's how it gets more horrific. It's one thing to kill a different species its different tale if its your own on accident and you are a child.
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>>579193364
I mean kazuya has Angel bullshit but this isnt brough up much in paradox. ontop of having a fucking outer god thing inside him tryna make him do a murder.

One of them may be an incubus im unsure.
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>>579181296
We're not, there's just some here who are massively autistic.
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>>579193563
Wait you aren't autistic?
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>>579184863
>he likes (girl you don't like)
oh, the horror
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>>579193649
No.
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>>579192705
>>579192857
That and the reason they're doing it is the space aids parasite infesting their bodies, just as an excuse to have awkward chibi sex scenes.
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Promestein what the fuck have you done with the sheeps?
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>>579193995
I mean it could've been worse, we could have gotten full on CGs like with Kanon's garden
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Slowly scene 2 has been recorded
https://files.catbox.moe/97j81h.mp4
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>The apiro lagos clones are fucking self aware
Ok promestein, this is an actual WTF moment
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>>579194083
Good work td anon!
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>>579192535
>he doesn't know about Merlin in mythos being half demon or a fae
>he doesn't know about a midsummer night's dream
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>>579194407
monsterboys are nowhere near numerous enough to even be a problem and to imply otherwise is laughable.
And I can forgive promestein for this because her research is useful
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>>579194212
she also cloned echidna Promestein's entire life and character can be summarized as
>Science isn't about why, it's about WHY NOT!
>Why is so much of my science dangerous?! Why not marry safe science if you love it so much!
>In fact why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you on the butt on your way out BECAUSE YOU'RE FIRED!!!
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>>579194571
>he doesn't know about Merlin in mythos being half demon or a fae
this yes
>he doesn't know about a midsummer night's dream
This I do know. I just got completely stunlocked by the fact that merlin had a wife
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>>579194407
monsterboys? What does that have anything to do with what prom said, it's the fact that her plan falls apart when you realize that most monsters are insanely posessive and will not let their men fuck other women for "the greater good" if not outright killing them
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>>579194015
Post the meme!
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>>579193248
They seem to originate from the Core of Stars, or whatever the slumbering chamber of Cosmos is called. It's apparently at the center of the world, and where the energy of nature flows from.
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>>579195091
yes I know, that has absolutely nothing to do with monster girls. It's about "Men can fuck a lot of different women, so humans will clearly never go extinct" which ignores how monster girls will never let that happen. has nothing to do with monsterboys
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>>579191280
I think its blacksouls
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>>579195339
That's what you austically lasered in on? Anon that's just a random ass hypothetical to try and prove her point (and really these are just goblin slayer goblins) and is not the main crux of her argument
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>>579195339
Can you stop posting like a redittor?
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>>579195584
The font seems different.
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>>579193512
Kazuya's deal with the niggerman is closer to a parasite sleeping inside him, while the angelic essence is treated like Mana in MGQ and he removes it from his body by the end of the game. That why he's surprised his powers came back in the collab. Biologically, he's a human, though he keeps some of the augmentations you put in him throughout the game with the upgrade capsules.
But technically, none of the humans in the pocket castle would stay fully human around Promestein
>One of them may be an incubus
Novissa has yoma as a race, I think he was made in a lab or experimented on as a child, but that plot point is expanded on in ROBFEOY, a different game I never even touched.
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>>579194519
Just for you, the 3rd and 4th story scene for this week. I will warn you, I almost died at the mistranslation at the end.
https://files.catbox.moe/1j9voe.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/4ty9ym.mp4
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name one monster girls
with breasts
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>>579196297
Luka
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>>579196297
Luka
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>>579196297
Mini
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>>579171546
Pedo brat is need of some serious CORRECTION!
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>>579196292
It's really weird that Poachers are still the main enemies in these collabs, just because of the power level difference. I know it must be scary for monster girl rapists of other worlds to see actual male rapists that defile monster girls, but it's still kind of odd.
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>>579197685
The idea of poachers is weird to me because who is just into the idea of random gang rapists going around fucking monster girls that you cant even save in a lot of instances.
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>>579197987
The poachers aren't there to fuck monster girls, they're there to capture them and sell them on, mostly.
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>>579198207
They still do it, though. At least from what i've seen.
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>>579197685
Double standards.
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>>579197987
Does this ever get brought up in any of the collabs? Does Luka wonder why he is now sealing so many random human men, and gets sick at the idea of men being able to rape monster girls?
>>579198207
We see them test the merchandise in the earlier parts of the game. Those poor monsters are still being sold as slaves who are going to get a lot of unwanted dicking too.
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Random unavoidable gangrape in games not really focused on it happens a lot in H games that aren't strictly vanilla for some reason. Alicesoft games do it a lot. Even the lillith sisters is kind of that if inverted
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>>579197685
the main enemy in most of the collabs are other monster girls or standard monster enemies, not the poachers. Neris even comments that her Granberia told her about monsters in another world not always looking like them.
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>>579197987
the point of the protagonist being there is that now they have someone who can competently organize all of them to be able to defend themselves, so you can/do save them now, and that's brought up a lot as he's prevented them from being captured constantly.
some are trying to kill them for payment and some are trying to harvest their organs and other body parts to sell to the highest bidder or make money on the market too so it's not just the one thing
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Latest fanbox upload. I am going to Alice

https://files.catbox.moe/t754zo.jpg Pic related
https://files.catbox.moe/7zpoki.jpg Magical girl Karen (apparently) with Luka and Hakunen.
https://files.catbox.moe/olmbou.jpg Part 2


>>579198534
As I recall, for many games (gacha ones anyway) it can count as a kind of early instalment weirdness. I recall that Kamihime project has a few scenes where the girl is raped by some rando or whatever, but after a certain point no scenes like that got added anymore and all new scenes are with the MC (well, almost all, odd tiny handful of lesbian scenes).
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>>579199409
The thing is if so many gacha games move away from it because it's clearly not that profitable then why do so many games keep doing it
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>>579199409
Ew. Weird poses.
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>>579199409
Cute Alice
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>>579196297
Carol
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>>579201582
>"The perfect woman doesn't exis-"
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>>579196297
Ocean
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>>579203378
Descendent of mass murderers.
One day the Shark Girls will return, and they will have their revenge on these flat headed booba devils.
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>>579196297
Lucretia
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>>579196297
Fatlice
Caramelice
Egglice
Milklice
Drillice
Balloonlice
Whorelice
Fishlice
Catlice
Horselice
Cowlice
Booblice
Cucklice
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>>579192857
>>579193995
I mean, fetish game has fetish scenes, who could’ve thought.
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>>579205841
The 5th was a flatty, and she is the best ML of the bunch. Booba don't make the ML.
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>>579205841
>milkless*
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>>579206145
they're still somehow out of place with everything else and forcibly interjected into story interruptions for little reason. the only purpose they serve narratively is to just make them depressed and miserable afterwards.
>>579206146
>second worst*
ftfy
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>>579206162
Anon, look at those milkers, no way she doesn't have milk.
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>>579206756
that was directed at the fourth, i didn't bother to count the number of names
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>>579207664
I only named the ones with decent tits minimum. No Mantice, Flatlice Blalice, or Neris.
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>>579196297
Quetzcoatl
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>>579196297
My wife, Doppel,.
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>>579206756
They are so white too
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>>579196297
His wife, Doppel.
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its so hard to do anything, there's so much evil in this world
i wish monster girls were real bros
we already have to live with demons in human skin (both men and women) so it would just be nice for the monster to be on the outside
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>>579213979
People say this constantly like monster girls aren't plenty heinous on the inside as well
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>>579196297
Nuruko's other biological mom, Dimensional Eroder
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>>579211490
The other reason I chose to call her that.
Maaan, I really want a scene were all the REALLY stacked MLs give a whole-body-titfuck.
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>>579214075
there's some bad monster girls but there's plenty of good ones
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>>579196297
Tamamo
...Wait.
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>>579205841
It's really funny.
Flattiness was looking like it was going to be the dominate gene, being around for two generations from the 4th, and finally to the 5th.
I guess the baller fucked a guy whose genes from his maternal side contained giant milkers, because flattiness didn't come back until the 17th. And we have Lucifina's genes to thank for that travesty.
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>>579205841
I wonder if there's specific lore reasons for why things are specific races or if trtr just told UnDo to go wild
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>>579196297
Alma Elma, also known as:
>Kyuba
>Fir'Almo
>Luv Manita
>Arumaru
>Fuela Nolma
>Granberia’s owner
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aruma eruma
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Succubi feel like weird characters in monster girl works. Their whole thing is being "the sex women" but basically every monster girl are sex women. I suppose you can argue they have their niche in mind control stuff?
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>>579214075
They make you feel good before they kill you at least.
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>>579218627
Their thing is supposed to be dreams and seduction. They can appear in your dreams and they use charm magic or their charismatic allure to make you want to bang them. These traits are often forgotten and they make the succubi just sexy demons.
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>>579220514
Seduction is kind of difficult to do in porn settings where everyone is perpetually horny and down to fuck. As well as the fact that Succubi are all super beautiful by default. In order for seduction to work it'd have to be long term femme fatelle stuff
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>>579218627
Monster Girls are usually portrayed as more 'normal' (non-human beings that simply come from a vastly different culture), mythical or legendary individuals, or animals/wildlife of some kind.

Succubi's whole thing is being hyper focused on sex and lewdness specifically, regardless of who/what is involved, and if the baseline for the Monster Girls has most of them being lewd in the first place then Succubi become x10 moreso than everything else. Even in MGQ that's still the case, they're far and away the most perverse acting girls in the setting and nothing else comes close.
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>>579218627
succubi are just semen thieves anyone telling you it feels good is a succ in disguise they should be depicted as little gremlins with a hypodermic needle they use to literally suck the semen out of your balls and leave
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>>579220790
>Even in MGQ that's still the case, they're far and away the most perverse acting girls in the setting and nothing else comes close.
This honestly barely means anything, as there's kind of diminishing returns to being horny until you get into full on /d/ tier slannesh debauchery. Of which generally other monster girls do better
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>>579218627
Yes, they are weird and feel like cheese holes.
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>>579218627
>>579220514
Another thing is they usually tend to be either the main species to justify everything else being a sexpest or the sexpest if the series isn't an adult eroge but for horny teens.
It doesn't really work when they appear in something like MGQ where succubi are an offshoot of yoma just like every other race with an ancestor
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>>579220790
>Succubi's whole thing is being hyper focused on sex and lewdness specifically, regardless of who/what is involved
I think the issue is that this is just kind of boring. With every other monster girl you have sex AND a somewhat interesting culture and stuff to do. With Succubi you just kind of have sex. I can get sex from anywhere why should I care about succs
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>>579220913
I don't remember other towns recruiting perverts to turn them into "consenting cattle" in broad daylight or having sex everywhere all the time to the point passed out guys are just scattered across the town. Even if every other girl in the setting loves having sex they still DO other things regularly and most have other activities they like.

>>579221257
That's because they usually are pretty boring in MG oriented works, because like >>579220514 pointed out their actual unique traits are almost always dropped or ignored and they become functionally no more distinct than a generic demon beyond just being lust themed. They mostly feel like they're included out of obligation and to just make the rest of everything seem more grounded by comparison to them. The Succubi that get talked about more frequently are the ones who tend to stand out from their contemporaries.
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>>579222087
The younger succubi fucked guys in the middle of the town during the Succubus Village invasion, Succubus Village becomes a haven for man whores were they are turned into cattle, Succubus Village of MW is a place where dryfishing happens in the open, San Ilias of MW has a open brothel controlled by succubi. The Lilith Sisters, you don't have to say anything else besides that.
Not a single other monster species comes close to this level of debauchery. And we are not even taking the collab into account, where we see succubi fuck literal animals on screen.
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>>579222637
I guess it's just that inherently, none of this feels remotely shocking at all because at the end of the day this is a porn game, sexy people doing A LOT of sex this time just doesn't really phase me due to the setting. Even then it's not like all of this is exclusive to succubi. It was tamamo who fucked all of yamatai, not a succubus.
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>>579220514
>dreams and seduction
I suddenly remembered that this was what Minagi was doing in the OVA in the first place, since the seal weakened a bit after Ilias died she pulled Luka into a dream and started blasting him with sex dreams and it being a dream is part of how he BS'd his way to victory.
>check summary
>Luka and Alice were actually killing the succubi in the intro
>When he wakes up Alice reveals that after Luka got hit with the sleep and fell unconscious she killed the rest of them
huh
honestly even if it's not of very good quality this part's kind of based at least
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>>579218627
Proably what FrFr thought when turned them into female Cells... that and he probably wanted to push his vore fetish.
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>>579222637
>Succubus Village becomes a haven for man whores were they are turned into cattle
This one isn't even on the succubi, the men themselves volunteered to do that. Having semen slaves isn't even a succubi exclusive thing as the monster lord has them too
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>>579222958
Not to say some monsters don't reach that level, but as a species as a whole, succubi really hit the peak of degeneracy in MGQ.
It's not like we don't see succubi in any other light though. TrTr gave succubi one of the most diverse recruit pools in the game after all, from science geek, to diligent maid, to sex deprived Ilias Priestess.
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>>579223148
Alma's mostly the fightism I HATE YOU MOM succubus now, but even looking at the original VN one exclusively she cannot hold a candle to Witch's degeneracy. and somehow her mmtd scenes are even more obscene and deranged that what's actually in paradox.
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>>579220514
>Their thing is supposed to be dreams and seduction.
If only they ever did the first and weren't absolutely terrible at the latter...
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>>579223126
It's the reason why I question if TrTr had any involvement in this product outside of just letting his IP being used. We have seen people die in the game, but Luka straight up killing people is very OOC.
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>>579223794
>terrible at the latter
according to who
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>>579223360
>succubi really hit the peak of degeneracy in MGQ.
I still just really don't think this matters in terms of making them actually feel unique and stand out. Mainly because there's a metric fuck ton of xelvy abombinations that feel way more degenerate to fuck even if they're less hypersexual than a succubus. Succubus witch aside most actual succubus H scenes are just "they walk up to you plap you and kill you" same as anyone else. Sans succubus witch but she's an extreme outlier
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>>579223885
Reality.
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>>579223881
Luka WAS willing to kill specific Monster Girls on certain occasions, but it was very few and far between, and it was only ever against the most extreme and murderous ones who opposed co-existence, mostly Cassandra (not helped by Emily requesting her mother's aid only to be mocked and then eaten alive while screaming for help). The Succubi in the intro were slaughtering an entire town via dryfishing, so I wouldn't be surprised if VN!Luka killed them over sealing them.
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>>579223794
The most powerful dream manipulator are succubi. If we don't count the collab, Agaliarept is the most powerful of the MGQ universe.
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>>579223794
Seduction doesn't really make sense when all succubi have access to mind control
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>>579224449
So, your own personal opinion that you perceive as reality
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>>579224229
the catholic church actually struggled to define succs in the middle ages because the dogma was that monsters can't create life (ie reproduce), so what did they need to steal semen for? how could incubi make girls pregnant?
one kinda neat idea was that succubi and incubi were the same shapeshifting creature, that would collect semen as a succ, somehow corrupt the semen in their barren womb, then turn into an incubus and impregnate a woman, who would finally give birth to a new succincubus

i'd rather have the DUDE I'M SO HORNY OMG HOW ARE YOU STILL HARD succs in a porn game though
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>>579196297
If we're including angels, Holmiel.
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>>579225309
Really I just think emphasizing the seduction angle is enough for me. A monster girl that doesn't just take a guy's cum but wraps everything around their finger is neat to me.
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I am the chosen one and I say the only good succubi are the ones like Rami
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>fairies are not locked in as female and have the potential for a male
>fairies are pretty much the same as elemental spirits
>ilias and alice are pretty much elemental spirits of light and dark
>this means there could be potentially universes where any of them could be male
I would rather I didn't learn about this. Though I bet kanon would have been raised better by a single dad over a single mom.
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>>579224775
No, of this world, in which succubi in moster girl games, have the seduction have about as much seductiveness as the average shitposter in this dump.
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>>579225478
>Omega Blaze
>Enemy doesn't have enough MP
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>>579225790
>of this world
the reality of this world*
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>>579225775
The Fairy male thing is very much a Ganondorf situation. Only one male fairy can be around at any given time, and it happens after a certain amount of time passes.
How and why this happens is never explained.
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>>579226229
>How and why this happens is never explained.
If there's more than 1 the other fairies will rape them to death until 1 remains.
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Why cannot there be a whole body paizuri fairy
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>>579225790
this sounds like projection to me
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>>579226553
...Wut?
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>First Paradox playtrough
Okay, Adramalech clearly says Sonya here. I have no fucking idea what that second sequence is, but I am not shizo, it's clearly Sonya. Between this and Illias warning it feels really creepy.
Sonya wasn't in VN. There's no way game will pull Black Souls and force me to kill her to set history into the right path of whatever the fuck is going on. That would be really cruel.
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>>579196297
Cleopatra Adramelech
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>>579230385
Congrats anon! Hope you enjoyed the fight. Part 2's really fun; get ready to own a boat.
it should be creepy it's cosmic horror.
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>>579230637
I hope her stepmother brings her to a nice brothel. She needs to get laid.
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>>579196297
Kobolds
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>>579231139
I assume P1 Paradox it's kinda the weakest part because 80% of the chapter is VN ported into rpgmaker with some twists here and there. All while "unique" story sequences were really cool narrative-wise, Generally, I liked it a lot.
At first I thought I would hate the "reset" and the fact VN Alice is lost for a reader, (at least for now, BAlice is clearly from VN, so who knows), but it feels surprisingly fine.
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>>579231851
It's still pretty good I think, with how much trtr put into the overworld and the towns. P1's surprisingly strong in terms of being immersive with how much companion interaction there is.
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>>579232005
Yeah, from the technical point of view I fully agree. I was quite surprised with how much detail was put into every town, it even felt a bit owerwhelming at times, especially in Sabasa/Grandeur.
Also didn't expect battlefucker recruits to actually talk in P1 "epilogue", they were barely reacting to events before.
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>>579196297
Amy
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>>579231572
It should've been me, not him
It's not fair
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>>579231309
A male prostitute getting the honor of fucking those galaxy tits? He should do it for free.
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>>579223564
I was talking about the whole tail vore thing.
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>>579238223
i know but it's barely even part of her and there's no absorbing lukas to become perfect alma or anything
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>>579239183
I mean, Cell basically created the fetish and if there is a character created before Alma that also did, they're nearly not as well-known as her so as far as anyone is concerned she's the the 2nd.
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>>579230385
It may be Sonya it's up to you which does tie into some weird looking shit with her in the uh trailers for part 1 and 2.
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>>579240685
Wish she had a sex scene.
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>>579233163
the battlefuckers were added in updates for part 1 and 2 specifically iirc. 1.1 and 2.1
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>>579209774
AIEEE
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>>579225309
>>579225428
One angle I've tried was that of an ambush predator, where the sexy is a means to get you to lower your guard, before the monster half strikes. Started to draw an orchid-mantis succubus: imagine her shoving her tits towards you so you don't notice the arm blades that are in attack position. Takes forever to draw though, insect carapace is a pain in the ass.

That could still work on the traditional demon design: The spade suite derives from pikes, so you could make the tail a weapon that strikes men too busy ogling the woman bits.
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>>579244318
that's not really a succubus, though, that's just an insect or demon thing
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>>579244318
It's also not really seduction in any interesting way. Any rube can just shove tits in someones face to distract from a hidden blade. True seduction is methodical and takes effort over decent lengths of times.
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>>579244312
Imagine that wet meaty thunk
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>>579225309
Yeah the origins of succs are really scummy and stupid, just "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit" for why some cheating whore's kid looks like some cheating bastard

Unlike Vampires, where the reality is worse than the myth, being based on a culture of vile insular people who literally drink the blood and consume the flesh of children, and still do to this day.
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>>579247245
Vampires were just smarter zombies at best in most European folklore. Just a corpse that popped out of the grave to suck the blood or soul of the living.
Stoker really was the one who brought the aristocratic bloodsucker into popular culture.
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>>579247929
Myriad cultures across Europe and Asia all had the shared myth of people who looked like Count Chocula sacrificing, eating, and drinking the blood of children. Because of a real world culture that does.
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>>579247929
>Stoker
I think you're forgetting the guy he named the book after in the first place
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>>579250402
The vampire in the book wasn't Vlad, he was some nonhistorical warlord Stoker slapped the name Dracula on.
Also, the real Vlad wasn't called a vampire in his time, even when the propaganda about him eating bread after dipping it in blood was circulating all over the region.
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>>579250931
>character based off of vlad doesn't count
>vlad inspiring myths/legends even after his death doesn't count
sure
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One must imagine Koron happy.
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>>579250931
Even Vlad's "history" is clearly fake. You had idiocy like Ottomans(?) recounting fields of impaled people 10,000+ in size.
And it's like... places didn't get that big back then except a few major population centers. The logistics of setting up this ridiculous theater make no sense in terms of supplies, location, or quantity of people.
It's as ridiculous as crematoriums that could incinerate 10,000+ concurrent bodies each day, yet just be the size of a building that handles a dozen, not a football stadium.
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>>579196297
Lewis
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>>579252743
You're saying wooden stakes wouldn't have done it?
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>>579252582
She was happy though?
When she splattered elf guts all over the colosseum. When she was bullying her little sisters, and calling them little weak bitches. When she blew the head off of a giant parody that Marvel cant sue over. Or when she was bleeding out on the snow, knowing she will always be alone, because she is a violent monster.
All smiles.
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>>579253252
I'm just saying we may need more permanent solutions to the vampire menace.
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>>579254570
All ears.
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>>579196297
Yuriel.
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>>579213979
Nigger monster girl acting like goblin in goblin slayer and beastman form warhammer fantasy they would be genocide
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>>579257081
The fuck
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>>579244318
I seen a hentai where is a mantis eating all the organ wearing the woman skin sexually assult a dude then shred it skin killing and eating him alive
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>>579257185
Rape, and lots of it, as well as eating people
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>>579257081
they're a bunch of drunken anarchist fucktards that hang out in the woods, surfacing only to pillage and defile ,bunch of lazy, shiftless, filthy degenerates that eat babies .want nothing better than to just drink looted booze, eat/fuck other races and tear down everything that everyone has ever built - ever
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>>579214075
Succ prison..
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>>579258662
the new game just show you a single suc kill an entire coutries of 65000 people gore and shit....
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A KGB spy and a CIA agent meet up in a bar for a friendly drink:
>"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.
>"Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."
>The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."
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>>579259220
the fuck kinda country has 65000 people? Were the succs invading Lichtenstein?
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>>579257081
no they wouldnt
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>>579259430
who would like raphaela that much
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>>579259430
Doesn't this kind of imply that Aliphese didn't birth the ancestors?
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>>579259220
Is this succ one of those giant breasted sister types? Or is it one of the guest murder whores like Nemea or Lliith?
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>>579259734
I don't think she necessarily did anymore than Ilias did?
Ilias essentially made 2 clones, and then whatever for Eden onward.

>>579259430
Too real and the joke fits too.
"Oh that's all russian propaganda!"
...but you didn't demonstrate to me how your claims are true.
"REEEEE MISINFORMATION!!!!!!!"
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>>579256925
Is it just me or does this angel look a bit like Asuna from Blue Archive?
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>>579260316
That's just you overly focusing on her hair's shape at her face.
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>>579259734
Raphaela is telling it how it is.
Fat Alice manipulates people, even through memory alteration, so the Ancestor's really can't say for sure it their feelings are genuine.
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>>579260638
I brought it up last thread but I really do like the idea of Alice's pride coming through in how much she thinks she's doing the world a favor by secluding herself. she's SAVING the world from herself by walking away from being a goddess. But all she did was walk away from being a mother.
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>>579259951
the main one that the character summon and kipnaped him
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>>579260787
ooh, that's a bar fr
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>>579259430
>>579259734
>>579260304
>>579260638
Alipheese didn’t birth the ancestors through normal means sure but until Koron she absolutely was a mother figure to them. Did you people just memory hole Shikimamo’s whole dream sequence?(the fact that koron shows up means it wasn’t a manufactured memory either). The ancestors legitimately had a childhood with Alipheese. This is just raphaela being calculating again
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>>579259951
It's your mother. Despite looking like a joke, she lives up to her title.

>>579259437
No, but they'd taken over most of the world at that point, so I assume all of the survivors had gathered there.
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>>579262275
She stopped being their mother after they were extremely young. Alice effectively didn't really raise the ancestors. I wouldn't consider my mom to have raised me if she stopped caring after I was like seven
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>>579262356
So the world of SP is destroyed? Or is this a case of her destroying some AU world and traveling to our MC's one?
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>>579262356
Slaughtering all who are smaller
And too weak to resist
Your reign of terror is over
I’ll crush all of your bones with my fist

You can’t win this time
I will end your life

You are the one we despise
Now it’s time for your demise
You’ll soon feel the brunt of a force hard and blunt
It’s time to cut you down to size

This fight you will never win
I’ll cleanse this world of your sin
You murder and lie for no reason why
There’s no turning back, it’s time to die

Hundreds of innocents slaughtered
Most in their physical prime
You killed as you ravaged their homelands
Now you will pay for your crimes

Your funeral's been penned
No one will attend

Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die!

Your time has come
Your end is near
You cannot hide
I smell your fear

You’re cornered now
Say your goodbye
One final strike
Now you will die
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>>579262356
do we have free reign to dislike the shikis now without seeming schizo. They literally genocided all of humanity
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>>579262594
>She stopped being their mother after they were extremely young
So she was a mother to them then
>I wouldn't consider my mom to have raised me if she stopped caring after I was like seven
This is relative in this case. We’re not really told how long the ancestors were children for, how much time passed after koron died nor how much time passed before the great monster wars begun. A childhood for the ancestors is likely way longer than a normal kid’s and they might
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>>579263009
>they might
Ignore that part. Forgot yo delete it
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>>579259734
It could be that because of the MLs' ability to choose their children genes that Raph sees them as artificial beings, like herself. It could also be that she implies they were created by Alice I to fullfill certain interests (like, let's say destroy the DNA donor's species), rather than out of love or genuine desire to be a mother, therefore they aren't any more her kids than the archangels are Ilias' kids.
>>579260304
>...but you didn't demonstrate to me how your claims are true.
I think you got the wrong anon.
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>>579262825
you could've just posted the geodude singing it, the video would've been less cringy
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>>579263262
>I think you got the wrong anon.
It was just an example exchange not aimed at you.
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>>579262748
Another world. MC got there through the summoning circle in Babyzela's house.
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>>579263262
The line between creator and parent is more blurred for the ancestors because alipheese raised them with >>>>>relavtive<<<<<< care compared to subillias. It’s why the ancestors, while dumb at ruling and commanding have die hard loyalty in comparison to the much more competent archangels who instead have their smartest soldiers like raphaela plot to betray their own world at the most appropriate opportunity because subillias while more intelligent(at least in terms of managing a civilisation)is far more callous and cruel to the point where even VN illias cannot stand her(admittedly she had character development)
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>>579262893
No because succubus prison 2 is more cool kyou not shiki.
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>>579263851
Evil monster rapist.
She looked so nice in the previews, but you should never trust a pedo demon.
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>>579260472
Also similar length and color for the hair, a similar figure and being a walking cleavage fetish.
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>TrTr made a new sidequest in the epilogue showing what happened to sub iiias and the archeangels after saving the world
>We didn't get one for fat alice and the ancestors

Is it because he'd have to make a new unit like the trio de whitels for the archeangels sidequest? They don't even have an h scene either, you find them in the archangel/ancestor room floating around the center

meanwhile there's an obvious seat for Koron on the archeangels side and in the middle for who exactly next to subiias and fat alice?

it's not for Chaos her place if she's not in the party is in the alt path to reaper's domain, so whose place is between fat alice and subiiias in the story as it is?
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>>579264186
At least her daughters are all genuinely nice kids, even if some of them need to work on overcoming their instincts.
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>>579265587
1. He probably didn't have any idea where to put the Ancestors in the epilogue since a majority of them no longer live in the cities, thus making the event flags more complicated. Funny enough he has the perfect counterpart for the angel mascots, that being the Slime Princess. Same artist, same super cute personality, and is seen as a idol in MW.
2. It's unknown what he is going to do with the empty seat on the MW faction side, since the Calamities are all in the chaos dimension of the PC. The seat in the middle is easy to figure out, it's Chaos B.Alice.
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>>579266069
they nice to you it imply you are not the frist one and if you cum they kill you anyway
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>>579266069
Hiruko is the problem child
Kanon is also but she’s really easily influenced
Minagi’s alright
Kanade and tamamo you’re either in their group or not
Saja’s a mommy’s girl
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>>579266809
Wrong set of kids, buddy.
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>>579267165
Whoops. Sorry. I'm not really getting the convo here
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>>579267225
It's okay.
The kids he is talking about are far worse than the Ancestors.
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>>579266093
i can more easily imagine our BA poaching that form from her and the seat is just so (you) can stand there in the middle like their boss since that's where Luka sits in all the cutscenes
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>>579267225
NyuPri stuff, and I'm being needlessly vague outside of the initial post on purpose so as to keep people unspoiled when it comes to the actual plot. Don't worry about it.
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Time to recover white rabbit's body!
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>>579259734
>>579260638
>>579262594
People notice the contradiction. That's good.
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>>579274971
Notice what? A lore detail that Alipheese herself told us in the sealed monster's cave?
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>>579222916
Those videos are funny.
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>>579275018
Shikimamo gets a whole dream sequence about the ancestors as children. Alipheese was there. Meanwhile the seraphim were more "created" than "born" unless you can somehow explain Zion, Gnosis and Uriela's existences(all of them have robot parts)
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>>579222916
>"I didn't play MGQ to see some dude getting guro alive"
Oh dear.
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La Croix... we talked about this.
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>>579275018
People tend to masturbate Alice and the Ancestors over Alice being an "actual mother".
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>>579275426
Didn't most scence in mgq kill you when you lose at least in the describtion
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>>579275245
meant for >>579274971

>>579275517
She wasn't the best mother or even a good one, I'll give you that, but she was a legitimate mother figure to them nonetheless. Minagi talks about her childhood with Tamamo, Alipheese reaffirms Hiruko's importance to her as a daughter for example. This isn't Alice good/bad, this is about simple fact and the fact is that Alipheese and the ancestors see each other as child and parent respectively. The screenshot of Raphaela is just her being good at talk-no-jutsu, and for god's sake, no I'm not calling her evil nor condemning her for it, she's just doing one of the things she does best
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>>579275517
I'm going to masturbate Alice
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>>579275986
HOW IS SHE SO HUGE? IS THERE A LORE REASON.
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i miss Tco she the hottest alice why is she love cuckhold bro
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I never thought I'd be glad to see your face for once!
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>>579275775
Yawn
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>>579276071
I'm not replaying the entire game to find the place in Succubus in Wonderland where she says it, but Alice herself said that apparently her body got lewder after she was whisked away to Wonder World, as if she was physically "acclimating" to the new environment. Spending time in Wonder World is probably also why she and Reto can both learn to use fucking magic
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>>579276229
I accept your concession.
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Yay!
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>>579276409
Tsundere get.
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>>579275986
You will need to go to Alice first.
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Much less wordy than I was expecting.
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>>579276726
Didn't they join temporarily during one of the previous route?
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>>579276817
True but I forgot to check their statuses I think
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>>579276079
She's so cute
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>>579276726
Here's a funfact. There's only 12 characters that inflict an element in all their attacks. 8 being the otherworld spirits, and the other 2 being Uriela and the galactic superhero.
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Cool!
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Huh. I was expecting something bigger.
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>>579279496
Dummy thicc

>>579279621
I found her boring imo
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HERE WE GO
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>>579279714
It ultimately does make sense though, She's foreshadowed to be the ancestor of giants
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Cute.
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>Out of the blue, its Queen Noah with a laser canon!
Kino.
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>>579279621
Tbf because they have to be companions and are 2d the only real way to get a grip on size is when you see how tiny Luka is in the Hscenes.
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Bleh. honestly I don't really care about Koron
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>queen noah in a space suit
hot.
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>>579279835
>She's foreshadowed so it's fine
Bleh.
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>>579280352
What other argument could you ask for? You find the orb of giants on the moon. A good deal of the giant monsters you have are humanoid.
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>>579280090
>>579280316
Look at her trait and despair.

>>579280207
Koron is three things, an anal joke, a Goku joke, and a Shadow The Hedgehog Joke.
But serious or something to care about? Nope.
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>>579280452
>Part one kit
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>>579280623
Don't be insincere, Part 1 didn't have Chains. That's better than most Part 2 traits.
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>>579280446
She's still mid. Being foreshadowed just mean that she exist.
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>>579280623
At least she can chain, but it's still bad. Goodbye whips.
My Royals got done dirty!
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>>579280452
Koron's point is showing how "good" of a parant Alice 1 is.
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>>579281302
I don't think anything in the game ever implied she was an objectively good one
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>>579281302
You mean, like the past 50 or so hours? And 50 more?
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>>579281354
>>579281430
Yeah it helps but in actuality It's cuz trtr wanted to add a final race for all the base races thats pretty damn obvious.
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Oh. Gross.
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>>579281649
???
Mecha crap is one of the only things Xelvy draws decently.
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>>579281714
Overreacted a bit, thought i saw more eyes than there were
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>>579281649
There's worse bro.

>>579281795
Peak is back
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Bit much, but cool!
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>>579281917
Check the trait and skills!
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>>579281974
I did, She's great!
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>>579282079
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>>579282079
Isn't she perfect?
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been a while heinrich!
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COOOOL
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I see black alice is certainly a fan
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>Check Heinrich's status trait
>it kinda sucks
Oh well, but new job at least!
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>>579282189
Fucking finally gonna be useful.

>>579282484
It's good, it's just not the analbreaking gamedestroying trait that is Luka's.

>>579282394
It's a shame, if you had the princess or queen, you would have had a special dialogue.
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>>579282689
>It's a shame, if you had the princess or queen, you would have had a special dialogue.
Drat. What would she have said?
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>>579282484
You have to remember that Heroism already has crisis so it's actually pretty broken still. It just doesn't seem that amazing like a lot of other practical but not yugioh text ones.
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>>579282768
Ah nevermind, I found a post about it. Kek. poor heinrich.
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Cute.
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>>579282768
The funny thing wouldn't have come from her mouth, but from Luka and Balice.

fuck I can't find the pics
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>>579283254
https://www.reddit.com/r/monstergirlquest/comments/1lcowi8/spoilers_reminas_dialogue_if_you_bring_her_to/
Plebbit post unfortunately but I found some here
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>Lucifina and Black Alice love their boys so much that when they go full hero mode you can see them both react with glee
>Luka doesn't have anyone like that in this game and when he goes hero mode all he gets is scolding

Poor Luka doesn't have a love interest in Paradox, that's why the bridal festival is needed, we have to find him a waifu even if it leads to bloodshed, especially if it leads to bloodshed
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>>579283458
>reddit is more based and respectable than I
It's over.


Constance also has dialogues. Luka's line, "Oh no I'm fine!" is hysterical.
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>>579283502
>Lucifina has a moment like this
Wait, when?
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>>579283613
The cave near the starting town.
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>>579283685
You mean the realm of chaos that you fall into after the pocket castle explodes?
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>>579283734
Oooooh the cave of trials. Whoops. Yeah I noticed that she kept giggling when Marcellus mentioned his early hero days. Cute.
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>>579283734
Iliasville.

>>579283806
And Marcellus is just confused and wondering if he did something wrong.
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>>579283502
He has one but she seems to be concerned for his safety.. and highly mentally ill and may be a threat to existence.. To the point they made their own do not steal oc.
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Sonya's training consisted of swinging her staff til her hands bled, using healing magic on them to go back to swinging her staff again, continue everyday til she passes out from exhaustion
she was doing this even right up to the point Luka is leaving the village for his journey and that's why she was late at the start
she apparently was doing this ever since Luka found her with the slimes

I think it's safe to say sonya's a lunatic,how hell came someone be this dedicated to someone they don't even intend on raping?
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>>579284373
I'm supposed to feel for her, but what I think is how this nothing burger take too much screentime, is insane, and is crazy.
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>>579284448
Much unlike Bonnie, there is very little about Sonya that I felt was worth doing
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man i love evil racetraitor
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man i love short featureless ADULT girls with huge disproportionate milky ADULT boobies
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>>579287641
As you should.
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>>579287496
t.gabriella
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>>579288426
She betrayed both angels and plants she racetraitor'd twice.
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>>579287641
Featureless?
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>>579289964
That reminds me of a manga I was reading where a guy was dating one of them
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>>579289964
imagine a nopperabou but she's wearing an eyepatch in the middle of her face and then when she takes it off behind it there's a single nipple so to kiss her you have to suck her facetit
a nipperabou....
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can someone spoonfed me on where to dl mgqp part 1 and 2?
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>>579291783
Just to let you know downloading part 3 includes all of part 1 and 2 so if you just want to play the game look at the OP, if you specifically want part 1 or 2 only for some reason then idk.
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>>579292439
I'm so unc I thought 3 was still untranslated, I only found a dead mega link so I thought i was missing something sorry
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>>579292539
also by the dead mega link I mean the dl for parts 1-3, can someone point me to a living DL?
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At last, I have them all. Her status sucks ass though holy shit.
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Oh wow you look so much better.
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>>579294963
Triple skill activation is really good though.
You give her a chain with black magic and time magic you will be able to hit the enemy at least 6-9 times without mini-maxing her abilities.
The problem is by this time, the B.Alice you have been walking around with is going to blow her out of the park by how good she gets.
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>>579280452
shit taste, the both of you
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Shall we let you two have the room for yourselves?
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READ THE ROOM YOU ASS
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Kek
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Oh wow. Chaos Alice is getting her moment!
>She does the exact same thing Dad did, sending both her and ideas to the depths of chaotic space
Kino.
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>>579285927
>>579284448
Sonya’s based, you want shit character arcs there’s BA and Hein
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>>579296262
>CGBA gets hyped up as super dangerous in part two
>jobs
>jobs
>jobs
>jobs
>”actually I’ll kill myself with this guy have a handout”
>this is ‘kino’
She’s unironically one of the most dogshit parts of the game, total waste of space who just exists as filler
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Not very excited but sure
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>>579296426
>not excited for the actually kino part
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>>579296265
>Sonya's based
Lol. Lmao even.
>>579296479
Getting a bit desperate.
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>>579296426
>>579296479
The lack of excitement truly is an Alice Route player. Tsk tsk.
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>>579296526
She is. That segment was great, same as the part two ilias route end with her.
>desperate
nah, just saying how it is
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>>579296597
It goes to show that TrTr never had Ilias in mind as a romance interest. Sonya is the one that is mostly on the mind of Luka, especially in the Judgement Route.
Sorry Ilias fans.
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>The board immediately starts going into schizo mode
I found the illias route more interesting overall but Sonya was one of the least interesting bits of it
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>>579296749
His date with her at the festival is endearing, honestly. She wants to be a dignified and mediating priestess but she’s just a sweet country bumpkin at heart.
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>>579296815
there’s only one a schizophrenic post, unless you think anyone who disagrees with his takes is a schizo when he’s blogdumping his entire fucking playthrough unasked. Are people not supposed to comment on it or are only asspats allowed?
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>>579297042
>when he’s blogdumping his entire fucking playthrough unasked
How new? The playthrough guy's been around for more than a month now.
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>>579284373
>exploit healing magic to train
she’s just working smarter
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I never cared that much for Sonya. She has some funny moments, but I only keep her on the team because it feels odd having a character treated with relevance and comment on the story from the start yet stay on the pocket castle at all times.
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>>579297261
yeah, and no one asked, he just did it. Same with his playthrough of the VN. he doesn’t really interact with the thread at all so he just seems runs it into a blog to rocket it to the bump limit and any disagreement with his opinions seems to send him into a tizzy. If he wants a circlejerk for his playthrough he can go somewhere else.
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I like Sonya and her moments and I think this negative dude sucks
the place of memory is one of the most emotional parts of the game
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>>579297261
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>>579297436
The problem is she hit her limit way before she started her adventure, because she was essentially just doing the same repetitious thing. Instead of beating up the poor elm tree, she should have went around clubbing the Imps and Slimes around Iliasville. You can't truly level up in a JRPG unless you are kicking mob butt.
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>>579297796
The place of memory was such a great highlight of the game
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>>579297757
>he doesn’t really interact with the thread at all
This general was making plenty of comments regarding his playthrough and nobody minded or cared until you came along. He wasn't the only anon either, just the most active one. Again, how new?
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>>579297892
she’s not gonna club the poor slime girl running her food stand, that would be mean.
She probably threw the imps out of the village a couple times though.
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>>579294963
Oh yeah, wanna know something? Read her bio and discover the bullshit.
Triple skill activation IS good though... but this one isn't good.

>>579296010
>>579296143
>>579296262
Stop bullying my boy. He is doing good. Fuck Heinrich and Chaos Goddess Black Alice sideplot.
Moslly Chaos Goddess Black Alice, fuck that bitch. "Blah blah you aren't a true hero." I don't want to hear that coming from her.
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What's the progression on part 3 translation, is there a global progress bar somewhere? Is the AI translation good?
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>>579298024
>no body minded or cared
I’ve seen several anons criticizing him prior to this and there’s been plenty of anons who disagree with the stuff he says, but apparently this one just really bothers you.
And you’re deliberately missing my point in that he doesn’t generally interact with the rest of the thread himself and usually ignores replies beyond a couple of advice posts so his playthrough just turns into a blog dump that takes up space.

And if this is (you) and you just bitch when you don’t get the kind of replies to your blog that you wanted then you are a massive faggot.
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>>579296265
Nope, but I'll agree about BA.

>>579296426
Hey isn't that the moment where you can get THAT piece of brokeness?

>>579296749
lol More like trtr can't make a romance for shit
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>>579298563
just because those two suck doesn’t make ideas lukas any better, he’s still worse and a generic pretentious dipshit. The whole manor was a ride of disappointment and anticlimaxes.
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I love my Big Butt Magic Knight wife. When I play Disgaea again I'm going to name her Sonya
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>>579298774
Idea Lukas is a good boy, don't insult him...

More seriously though? The manor was too big. Way too big. At least it had a blacksouls bgm.
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>>579299106
Sonya isn't as cool or sexy or buxom.
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>>579299205
do not spread misinformation about anon’s wife, Sonya
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>>579299205
Yes she is, don't be rude to her anon
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>>579299118
>At least it had a blacksouls bgm.
>he thinks it isnt generic royalty free music
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>>579299106
Poor girl.
Getting absolutely nerfed after D2.
>>579299118
Idea needs "her" old form back. No one should be forced to transition just because some child demands it.
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>>579299325
Royalty free music automatically become blacksouls bgm the moment it's inside blacksouls!
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>>579299293
>>579299296
Bigger boobs, better chest, better personality, better hair, SWORD...
Nope, Magic Knight is better!
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>>579299851
Putting a sword on a mage.
Anon, that is not how you minimax.
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>>579299851
Magic Knights also know magic and can use Staffs
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>>579299753
Black Souls music is actually SHRIFT music.
Want evidence? Florence phase 2 had her music changed because the composer didn't want his music used in a porn game, yet SHRIFT still uses it.
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toro still hasn't finished dog semen it a prequel bro why is took so long is support to be a sidegame
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>>579300123
Yes, but SHRIFT is a terrible game, while Black Souls 1 and 2 are great games.
So fuck SHRIFT. It's Black Souls music.
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>>579300123
The virgin toro vs chad alan
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>>579298581
>Is the AI translation good?
...You'll be able to keep up with the plot.
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2nd try's the charm.
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Chad moment from Luka.
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Creepy CG there.
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And there she is. Welcome back I suppose
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>Adramelech is sonya's sister
Well that's quite the reveal. Her body's back in deep chaos wasn't it?
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Not bad.
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She can talk!
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>>579305874
I'd rather have sex with the eldritch horror doll, than Sonya.
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She can make expressions too!
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Kek
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>she can turn into her different forms
>they have unique status effects
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Cute.
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>>579307291
It's weird to see characters with unique equipment sets have multiple weapon options. I guess it because Sonya had these options since Part 1, but you will not be bothering when the unique equipment just gives you far more than even the best high tier generic equipment does.
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>>579305709
That Xelvy CG was clearly heavily repurposed from its trailer usage. Literally too, with Nupe having to slap a face onto a Xelvy art.
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>White rabbit won't even consider merging with Apiro Lagos
Based. Fuck that rabbit.
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>>579299327
What? Magic knight as far as i'm aware is just as busted as she was in d2 in later games. At the very least she's still a direct upgrade to witch and skull in the spellcasting department
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Now that you got her back take her around home for a bit, she has stuff to say to the residents there and show her what happened to her freakin house
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>>579309036
I've already checked. Only the little girl and the girl near the graveyard have dialogue. Sonya mazda was pretty funny.
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>>579309104
Take her to the spider princess in your castle for a bit of smug gloating
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>>579305709
>I DO exist!
kino
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Oh shit. No gag complaints from Lazarus this time!
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>>579310057
Makes the commentary on the prior 14 worth it.
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Interesting skill. Does anything happen if I use it?
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>>579310213
maybe at some point in development it was going to do something but no
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Oh whoops. Though it was adramalech for a second
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>>579310213
Isn't this Luka's chaos beam cannon he uses in the cinematics? It was pretty clear that this was supposed to be a number threshold for a bad end, but TrTr probably didn't want to overcomplicate the RPGMaker than it already was.
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>>579310423
Trust me when I say this, this fight will make you hate Fat Alice
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That wasn't so bad I suppose.
>>579310851
What was I supposed to hate here? I just feel sorry for the two of them in anything
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>>579310213
In Part Two it was possible to obtain this in the Labrynth of Chaos on Luka with his unique equipment, and every time you used Logos Magia, it would increase an internal counter by 1.

In Part Three, the internal counter has been removed and the data for it no longer exists. Considering how the bad ending works it's commonly believed that overuse of the ability would have originally driven Luka insane as the story implies the abuse of it does and locked you into the bad ending automatically but was cut by trtr, likely because even if it makes perfect logical sense it would rugpull everyone who had been spamming it in part two and likely wasn't considered very fun in general.
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>>579310985
IF anything
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Alright anons how is this version of anime face.
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>>579311058
Three Charms I believe was a sneak peak to that bad end. TrTr got overly ambitious, and forgot that he would have made a lot of people angry if it pushed them to do a hard NG+ reset.
It probably didn't help that Part 3 has a really messy development.
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>>579311368
>would have made a lot of people angry if it pushed them to do a hard NG+ reset
Most likely reason to cut it.
No one likes some bullshit screwing your ending.
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>>579311649
A possible side-quest could have been done to circumvent the issue. Maybe a causality killing item or something that changes Luka's future.
But that would have been more development time and resources to an already bloated mess.
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>>579282079
>Fusion of the 3 thirds
>Not 3 actions
>Stats boosts not divided by 3
>Skill boosts not divided by 3
Damn it TRTR!
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>>579312027
just make the bad ending happen, give you an achievement and give you a choice to start from before the fork and raise a flag so you can't get the bad ending again until you start NG+
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>>579310985
>I just feel sorry for the two of them
NTA.
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>>579312357
It's pretty clear this was supposed to be the counterpart to Lilith Origin.
TrTr didn't want to the angel version to be the absolute best of the two, even though it kind of already is.
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>>579298563
>boy
>He
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>>579311250
Best one yet
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>>579298563
>I don't want to hear that coming from her
Isn't the point that it IS coming from her, and she's actually right? BA is obsessed with larping and doing the role properly, and even she can tell he's not close to a true hero and is just a faulty "idea" of what one is supposed to be.
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>>579281515
Could have gone the Z-ARC route instead of the Noumeron Dragon route.
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>>579314280
>ENTER
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>>579313416
If that's what it was meant to be, then that's really stupid. We were never given the impression that Mikubus and Lukabus were equal to or even at the same level as Lilith445 or that their minds were merged beyond what fragments they represented just returning to her.
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>>579282484
>it kinda sucks

He might not have a chain in his trait, but make no mistake, triple activation for Heroism skills is pretty damn good.
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>>579316975
Isn't there a triple chain with two heroism skills in it? Innate chains are not always good, and you might want to use one in the abilities instead.
>>579316407
Three characters merged together, making you lose access to them, but getting a super unit at the same time. I'm not sure how these two were not considered counterparts the moment you saw the angry succubus. Funny enough, the AW faction has two super units to MW one, since Zion gets a upgrade mode too.
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>>579318106
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>>579318280
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>579315542
Don't try to compete with her! Use your own skills!
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>>579305709
>CG has haircut
>the face has another

>>579306729
>>579306878
>>579307291
>>579307472
Adra is CUTE!
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>>579310213
So far, the counter does nothing. Look at other posts for more infos.
It doesn't stop anyone from being on edge and still being wary of ever using it.

>>579310985
>I just feel sorry for the two of them in anything
lol
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>>579317959
That by all means one of these units should more super than the other.
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>>579320992
Trinity is better than Origin.
Not heads above better, but she is the one everyone would pick if the meta game was the only criteria.
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>>579310213
The counter is just a holdover from the translation having it in the Part 2 LoC.
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>>579321715
I feel like Trinity is worse. She can't really take full advantage of some triple chains while the other has a unique one and can use a full generic ones as well
BUT you get the fusion materials earlier so it's easy to make a godfusion that steamrolls the remaining 5% of the game with Trinity.



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