I'm so sorry editionPrevious thread: >>579538291>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Patch 1.12.5 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-12-5-patch-notes/124954Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:The Feast of Grimnir returns! Patch 6.12.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-feast-of-grimnir-returns-patch-6-12-0-patch-notes/125081Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2 is officially out:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3448650/Aliens_Fireteam_Elite_2/>Acknowledged but barely discussed :Left4DeadDeep Rock GalacticKilling FloorPaydayEarth Defense ForceWWZThe Outlast TrialsBarotraumaNo More Room in Hell 2and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
call my dick the melta gun the way I be Jurgen off
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>cant name my Arbitrator Arbite-Macht-FreiFucking gay. Absolute fucking homosex. What is even the point of playing this game
>>579834142Good. Fuck nazis
>>579831913ESL retard
>>579834142lol get cucked, loser
>>579834142Get fucked nadseecuck.Total fascist death.
>>579834142>waaaaa why can't I be a retarded teenager edgelord in peaceI thought summer was over
I remember the scoreboard tranny being proud of his Adolf Hitler ogryn lookalike (Chudgryn?)
>>579834142>le le nazi haha xD funneee am i rite fellow 4chinners?You need to be 18 years old to post here.
>>579834142I tried naming my Skitty "Escobar-621". It got filtered by the censorship system.
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>579835492>check the file name in the archive>it's another mentally ill furfaggotEvery time
>>579835093What was funnier is that he always shilled the dumbest fucking builds and abilities around that time which were objectively just shit. He didn't even play havoc.
>>579835552More like True Brit.
>>579835683>he always shilled the dumbest fucking builds and abilitiesSuch as?
hon hon hon j'aime jouer au 'avoque
>>579835093>>579835683Let it go, resident schizo. It's been several years since he dunked on you
>>579835675What mentally ill have I ever posted?
>>579835856wasn't his name "Velcrospiderman"? his steam profile was full of anime nazi catgirls lol
>>579835946>he actually lives rent free in your headlmfao
>>579835093The last time anyone brought him up was when the guy who's now known as ratjeet was started shitposting about him out of nowhere.
'tide-shitters having a normal one...
>>579836293The only people that like nazis nowadays are browns (jeets, americans, arabs), though.
>>579836425You're probably american so you don't know that Slavgroids are pretty much sucking nazi dicks and often larp as them
>>579836425>uh but what about-No hand? Concession accepted.
ratfag fucking wonned btw
A 3 days ban wasn't enough.
>it was ratjeet all alongSo obvious
>>579836817Nice to meet you, Retarded Nigger.
I'm white! I'm white! *SQUEEEEEE*
It can't go like this for another month Fatshark has to add content or this general will die in its own pool of liquid shit
>>579837368Ratjeet gets raped every time he pipes up. He's not the most destructive shitposter by a longshot
>>579834612>>579834706>>579834784>>579834981>>579835162>pretending to be cringy left wing SJWs on 4chanGuys, this isn't reddit, you can drop the act.
>>579836293>>579838195You are brown.
DOWN DOWN DOWN IN BROWN TOWN
>>579838409>someone makes a harmless post about an edgy Arbites name>piss your diaper over it>get called cringe>call them brown in responsePick a lane. Are you a racist or not?
It's over isn't it.This general will never recover.
>>579838834
>>579838195I was just joking and then the other faggots started copying me
>>579837532The straw that broke the jeet's back
>>579838834>rat falseflaggingtry being more subtle
>>579838834Well we COULD talk about Darktide if not for that faggot that lives in this general 16 hours out of the day just to call everyone retarded because they don't adhere to his sweaty metaslave mentality. Everytime anyone tries to discuss anything on topic he scurries out of the woodwork to screech RETARD RETARD RETARD. Its HIS fault.
>>579838747I'm sorry. I wouldn't have called you a nazi if i knew the ratjeet would troon out over it
AFE2 has better combat than Darktide of Vermintide.
>>579838834>least buckbroken /coopg/ posterhe truly did a number on you, didn't heit's fucking insane how mad you are right now, tell me - are you crying irl right now? feeling sad? feeling raped and gaped? lmfao
>>579839182At least that guy's actually right most of the time but he needs to chill the fuck out and stop flying into a sperg berserker rage whenever he sees someone playing lw mine arbites or scum without rampage and adrenaline frenzy.
>>579839605>lw mine ArbitesWait, what? He throws a 'tism fit over that? Thats how I've always ran Arb in H40. The dog is an annoyance to other players in the best case scenario and a detriment in the worst case when it bounces a pox burster into you
>>579835778Looger builds in aurics, and this was way before the ogryn rework and before the numerous buffs and changes to both PBB and BLO.Lugger used to be genuinely shit and just worthless, even in auric. You were practically griefing the team if you chose to play it due to how much of an ammo hog you were.Now it's super good even in aurics because you aren't as massive of an ammo hog, relatively speaking. It's also just blatantly OP as fuck now, especially with the rumbler and GG, thanks to the 60s base cooldown + getting reduced to like 20-30s with bruiser and maximum firepower CDR nodes.
>>579838195Imagine getting this buttblasted for being called unfunny.
>>579840245Doesn't PBB Rumbler Ogryn STILL need a Veteran in the group just to function? I swear every time I see an Ogryn try to play that without a vet on the team they spend half the mission frantically running around trying to find every crumb of ammo on the map
>>579836293>>579836817>>579838464>>579838594>banned againCan we rangeban India, please?
>>579839605>At least that guy's actually right most of the timeHe is not.He's incredibly aggressive and pushes his metaslave as the only right thing, and can't accept that there can be multiple, equally effective solutions to 1 same problem. Aka, he is deeply autistic and regular spergs out.
>>579840614He's actually Polish he doxxed himself some time ago
>>579840846What, really?When did that happen?
>instantly banned again after his 3 days banThis is why Ratjeet never win, he's too retarded to be subtle
>>579840535>Doesn't PBB Rumbler Ogryn STILL need a Veteran in the group just to function?In aurics? Not really, the mode spawns so much ammo that it is not an issue. If you have a vet, cool but 100% necessary.In havoc? Yeah, veteran is preferred, he is the 2nd best class in the game right behind psyker. However if there is a PBB rumbler ogryn in your team, the ogryn is 100% entitled to all of the ammo on the map because the ogryn objectively use it the most effectively since rumbler spam is that cancerously powerful.There's a reason why people here have talked about ogryn getting nerf hammer soon, it's 100% possible. And the devs are certainly aware of it.
>>579840998I mean he's obviously ban evading on a daily basis.
>>579840965Usual strategy was to say things like "you're mad you're not american" because he's a raging hateburger he couldn't stop gettign banned for racism and one day he posted a screenshot to prove something and the filename was in Polish. Happened like a year ago? He was the casino/copaganda tard
>>579840614Holy shit, lmaoMods = Gods
>>579841109>but 100% necessary.not 100% necessary*Brainfarded
>>579833361I want to forget this image exists
>>579841176>He was the casino/copaganda tardThat explains a lot.
>>579841262Shame it wasn't a full post history wipe so we could see all the posts made by him
>>579841380You will show Mister of Battle the reverence he deserves.
>>579841380Weak.
>>579841109I'd personally like to see an Inferno Staff/Soublaze nerf before a Rumbler Ogryn nerf. I see an Inferno Psyker in damn near every havoc I play, whereas Rumbler Ogryns are still somewhat uncommon. As strong as it is I think most people are still afrain to apply to a havoc without Taunt.
>>579841176I think he's also the guy who starts his weird homosexual ERP shit whenever someone is beating him an argument.It's same type of behaviour and they have also been a persistent shitposter.
>>579841176That sounds like a massive stretch, but I choose to believe you.I doubt it's an actual pole, he could be a hohol refugee or some other freak.
>>579842137No. That's me, resident schizotard
I believe most posters here are ritual shitposters at this point I know I'm one of them you'll never know wich one I am
>>579842365I'm several, but i'm not the guy who the schizotranny is obsessed with
What about lowercase guy? Is he one of the ritual shitposters too?
>>579842541Several people get called that, including the schizotranny and ratjeet, but never me since i phonepost
>>579842541All lowercase is just how most zoomers type these days. I'm reluctant to jump to the conclusion that they're all one person.
*fart* NIGGERS! :D
>>579842638>>579842660I was talking about the schizo that calls you a turdie ESL jeet etc. if you type your post in all lowercase.I love his posts, he's always referencing some obscure bullshit thinking it makes him look smart.
>>5798428154chan is filled to the brim with people like himmany of them are election tourists
>>579842006Lot of it has to do with the fact that rumbler ogryn is a bit more squishier than a taunt ogryn running FNP so many people probably aren't used that playstyle, not on ogryn at least. Also many people are just behind and haven't realized it though.But also Taunt is incredibly powerful in its own right. Taunt ogryn just keeps the entire team safe just by existing, it pulls all the heat which lets all his team mates do their jobs, and since the team mates are safe they can more easily protect the ogryn and help him kill all the enemies, which in turn lets ogryn use Taunt more often to keep his team safe. It's like a feedback loop.But I think why people aren't playing PBB ogryn as much is because I have noticed a trend that most ogryn players like to ogryn as ogryn, as weird as it sounds.Ie. they want to play ogryn as a tanky melee bruiser that helps the team by debuffing enemies.Which makes sense, it's part of the class fantasy. I don't blame them, 'cause I get it. I'm someone who also prefers the taunt build because it feels what ogryn should be as a class. PBB rumbler spam really doesn't.However, I agree that PBB rumbler builds are 100% better in terms of damage, if you can deal with being more squishy. It's the best damage build for ogryn by far.
Infantry lasgun and shovel yeah baby!
I can't help but gloat over our victories against ratjeet, even if they were quite easy
>>579844836but he wonned
>>579844864He wonned a ticket to Rapeland
>>579834142just use non-latin script vowels
>>579844864Yeah, wonned the "insufferable retard" award
>>579845924>non-latin alphabet user helping the naziThis is just like the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
Crazy how some people have been able to shitpost like it's their full-time job for months or even years without getting banned but the ratjeet can't even go a full day
SOMEONE CALL FOR A BOOM
>>579847091I look like this and say this
>>579847091Yes, I did, over here.
>>579847091Yep. Drop it right on this vet who just got caught by a trapper
>>579847091i still don't know if his grenade on death is intended or not
>>579847091STOP CAMPING THE MEDICAE
>>579847504He drops a grenade if he is killed after he pulls out the pin
*defecates loudly*Anyways whats the best build auric for Skitty?
Remember to kiss Hestia before leaving for your mission!
>>579847849DEMETRIUS GO TO THE BATHROOM
>>579847849Noosphere
>>579846802My guess is that he is a consistent nuisance in many places at once. Like he is active in multiple different generals and probably active even in multiple different boards, all of which where he shitposts in. So they are aware of his antics.My guess is that the mods probably noticed that his posts are getting flagged here too and started investigating more closely and realized he is up to same behaviour so they are now giving him the hammer to curtail his behaviour.
>>579847091>get grabbed by mutant>faggot bomber has coincidentally already thrown a grenade at the exact spot the mutant is going to stopFucking rigged game, I hate this faggot enemy.
>>579847091>Ally gets downed>Three of these fuckers start throwing their bombs at himWhat the FUCK is their problem?
>>579848807>Ally is at the edge of the fire>:)>Revive them in the fireI gotchu "bro"
>>579847504if you hear the pin pull sfx then he will drop it on deaththe tox bomber doesn't have this mechanic and will never drop his bombs on death THOUGH
sell it to me. what's their DLC policy?
>>579851903More or less the same as Vermintide 2, new classes are sold as DLC with a "baseline" edition and a paypig "deluxe" one with cosmetics.They haven't sold maps yet, tho Vermintide 2 hasn't done that in like 5ish years.There is a MTX shop inside the game with trillions of skins, and they are actually the only way to get cool stuff that isn't gay recolors of your default gear.
>>579851903They sell classes, classes have some unique weapons, deluxe comes with cosmetics you don't have to care about. Base game is worth 10 bucks, you can spend one or two hundred hours figuring out the basic classes and the game itself. They do sales like this pretty often to catch whales that buy cosmetics.
>>579852085>>579852201how is the skill tree? a game needs a good skill tree.
>>579854316Your average midwit slop with a lot of nodes that do nothing but give you 2% more dick size.However there are also a lot of nodes that dramatically change the way you play, but it's not really that complex.
>>579854316https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>579854316Linear, but flexible. You have mutually exclusive major skills and then minor ones that path through them going all the way to the bottom. Skitari are a bit different, but give you even more freedom.
>>579854316Preddy good but like almost any skill tree, there are some deceptive stinkers you can get tricked into taking because the game mechanics are a bit opaque and confusing at times.
>>579854457Imagine being this filtered by PoE
give us a "floating" skill point we can put anywhere in the tree (but doesn't count as a valid connection for other nodes)
>5 Lights Out missions on the boardI'm about ready to find a mod that removes the darkness or something, this one pisses me off so much. It's not that it's hard, it's just annoying and the lack of flashlight options makes me angry on a spiritual level.
>>579855432PoE has a good skill tree for the wrong type of game. most players just follow a guide instead of engaging with it.
>>579834142>Waaaaah I wanna be edgy! I wanna be edgy!Go back to Call of Duty lobby shitter.
>>579855635Because you can brick your build permanently in PoE.
>>579838195I'm more moderate left. But you're still a try-hard werhaboo
>>579843575Damn, nigga got hips.He must be worshipping Slaanesh in secret to sway like that.
>>579855851Is it hard to respec the passive tree in PoE1? I know in 2 it just cost gold to respec points.
>>579855851last time I checked skillpoint refunds were relatively cheap. PoE is a competitive grindfest and having an unoptimized build is especially bad, that is all.
>>579856054gay people are weird
>>579856096>skillpoint refunds were relatively cheapWouldn't be a problem if it weren't ONE item that refunds ONE skill point.If you brick your build you need hundreds of those items.And "cheap" means jackshit to a new player without currencies.
Beastmen will be the next DLC, the animal will be a Cat. It's actually felinids >:3c
>>579854457>Your average midwit slopVT2 skilltrees genuinely aren't better.
>>579856075>>579856385you can grind like 200 an hour after the campaign. the campaign itself gives like 15 and having a div drop during the campaign is guaranteed from what I've read.
>>579847091Honestly sounds are weird here.I hear his grenades jingle but it sounds like jingling coins to me.Even though the Pox Bomber is supposed to be "ticking" it sounds more like a "CLONK!" ing. Otherwise there's perfect sounds like the pilot light for flamers and zappy noises for trapper
>>579856254You can say they're quite... queer.
>>579856471No one implied otherwise you fucking retard.Darktide even shipped with that slop, until the rework.You don't need an MMO-tier slop tree, you could remove 90% of all the nodes in every class tree and still have the exact same results.
>>579856471They genuinely are because they don't have all the stupid filler nodes between the meaningful onesBest of both worlds would be meaningful darktide talents only, no filler
>>579856254Think of it like the hips are being enhanced by the power of the sway. Even if God didn't give you hips like Jagger.
>>579856539You can respec with gold
>>579856824oh yeah they added that. it was ridiculously pricey though so not much point in using gold.
Slaanesh update when?
i sense the ratjeet.
>>579856824wtf they put regular gold into PoE1 too?
After roughly 200 levels of mainlining Skitarii since it dropped, I thought I would come out of it like the hyperbolic time chamber and be way stronger in general on the other classes just by way of getting so much practice in. NOPE I just got ripped in half and raped from both ends on psyker so I think I'm just a dedicated cogsucker now.
>>579857878It's been in for over a year.
>>579858434what a weird decision, what's the point of releasing a sequel if you're just going to slowly have them creep into each other?
>>579858629Gold makes more sense in 1 because of Kingsmarch, but as for why are they feature creeping them into one, well, 2 campaigns, 1 endgame
>>579858629it wasnt a sequel, then they made it a sequel, then they realised its too hard to not make them the same game
>>579856691They are not simply for the fucking reason there genuinely is 0 fucking variety. Nevermind that half of each VT2 skilltree is fucking copypaste bullshit anyway. At that point you might as well remove the entire fucking "skilltree" system and just give each fucking class 6 talents that always 100% active no matter what.It's slop, it's fucking bad.>but muh filler in darktideI'd rather take some skilltrees with some fucking filler in them and have some variety instead of a fucking table of contents where basically none of the fucking options matter and there is only 1 god damn path you should ever go.
>>579859029Your mother is a dumb whore with a fat arse, did you know that?
>>579859029you raped him
>>579859252his mother raped you
>>579851903all memes aside, it is still a great looking game and haven't really had any major performance issues; i.e. if you can run it ok, then it usually stays ok. the atmosphere in the game is great. all of the base classes are really good until literally the very high end-game, which i doubt most players even do.2 of the dlc classes are really good but not out of control. the latest dlc class is either insanely strong or retarded weak, depending on who you talk to. but again, at anything but the very highest level, all the classes are fine.
>>579860041giwtwm
>>579795517If these mods do what they claim to do they will not help with memory leaksCalling garbage collector more often will not result in better memory management, it will be extra work for no reason.
>>579858312Skitarii is ez mode like arbites, with tons of TDR and toughness recovery. Of course it will teach you bad habits.
>>579859252Yes.
>>579860152bought, installed and refunded the game by the time you wrote this post. couldn't hit 60 on minimum setting without framegen on my 1060 so into the trash it went.
>>579862341>framegenoops meant upscaling
>>579862341>Pushes up greasy, thick glasses>Re-adjusts small penis>Smiles Smugly at his "No Girls Allowed Sign">"Umm" *smacks lips* is this game going 1 frame below 60? TUH-RASH!".
>>579862341>1060Holy shit, no wonder, the minimum specs require a 20 series. Your GPU is what should be in the trash right now.
>>579836571That’s the opposite of the case
>>579862980more like 40 when looking at large areas. I didn't adopt the console peasant mindset.>>579863557I don't see a reason to upgrade yet. also the minimum specs say 970.
>>579856450Someone posted a leaked image of them last thread they’re looking pretty good>>579857162He was there earlier in the thread you’re a bit late
>>579859252>le ebin gamer thrones referenceshut up Robert your show went to shit
>>579863731>i don't see a reason to upgrade yetYou're four generations behind, that's the reason. Even a dinky little 3060 would be a vast improvement. It'll run on a 970 if you put everything on low, but you're kidding yourself if you think you'll ever manage a stable 60 without memegen frames. It's time to retire the old girl, man.
>>579864061literally no difference between you and the kind of retard who buys the new Iphone every year.
>>579864280You literally know nothing about me. I jumped from the 970 to a 4090. You only say that as a cope for your own unwillingness to spend money on a new midline rig.
>>579841176>He was the casino/copaganda tardProof? I’m pretty sure those are two different people. The casino faggot is someone who strolled in from /v/ iirc since people always used to recognize him but copagandafag seemed like the usual redditor tranny type that only shows up here around the time we get updates (hasn’t posted in a while either)
>>579848417That does tend to be the case with posters like that. I’m dealing with another nuisance in another thread and the guy has showed up in like 4 of the other generals I frequent too.
>>579864280You're the one who can't play a 4 year old game on low settings anon, and one with generally good performance optimization at that.
>>579863973can you post the picture again, kind anon? please
>>579864512get me a game worth upgrading for and I'll think it over. until then, SUCK IT HOMO
>>579864674>durr it's not worth itYou're peak sour grapes and it's not my job to convince you of anything. The problem is your rig, end of story.
>>579864674Darktide.
>>579864847you're the one who's malding though because I used the word 'trash'
>>579842638based phoneGOD
>give me a game worth upgrading my rig for>it's not worth it if it doesn't run on my rigAh, the gamer's Catch 22
>>579865037You used trash to describe the game because your trash rig can't run it to your standards and it cause you to have a meltie. Upgrade, or stick to 20 year old games.
>>579864851DRG is better
>>579865168I used trash because that's the place where it went, the refund screen. keep malding
>>579865171It would be if it had a proper melee.
>>579834142>>579838195Weak bait or trying too hard to fit in, either way you are not someone who deserves the gift of sentience.
>>579863731My brother in God Emperor, I used to deal with having a toaster pc and playing vidya. But I didn't complain.You're just an elitist wannabe. Piss off and get off your high horse.
>He's STILL going
>>579865585>The Bingus EmperorI kneel Sah.
>>579862341>1060Bro that shit could barely compete with a PS4 in its prime.
Today I will remind themhttps://youtu.be/E2_qsKQWD0w?si=ZZQhAlHz-Ohyeyk5
>>579865638I'm just blogposting and replying back. how about you fuck off?
>Playing mission as Ogryn>Our Vet goes down once>I grab him up no problem at all>Fucker DISCONNECTS>ON HERESY>JUST AFTER START OF THIE MISSIONNormall I loathe the idea of leaver punishment mechanics some games do. But I'm ready to send a letter to Fat Shark asking to do SOMETHING bout fucking leavers.Is ANYONE ELSE dealing with this? Or is it just my games I'm cursed with people flaking out for one reason or another?
https://youtu.be/lMcpihcv8lQI'm probably late to the party but I wanted to tell my second best friends in coopg about this
>>579866082No.
>>579866234Just deal with it, someone else will fill the slot soon enough, and fewer players make things more interesting anyway. It's not worth getting footy blasted over Heresy of all things.
>>579864549>but copagandafag seemed like the usual redditor tranny typeI’m willing to believe this is the ratjeet honestly, we saw in the first thread he got banned in he says random leftard shit, either because hes brown and genuinely believes it or just to bait, a few posts here follow the same thing unsurprisingly
>>579866440Yes.
>>579842815>he's always referencing some obscure bullshit thinking it makes him look smart.This is honestly such an incredible view into the psyche of the average midwit retard, and their ability to cope with being fucking stupid.>someone explaining I don't understand must mean he's PRETENDING to be smart, not actually know more than I do, because that is IMPOSSIBLE, for I am a GENIUS
>>579866442>Bro just take the blatant disrespect like it hasn't happened countless times beforeIt's the principle of the thing. I deal with it by calling it out immediately.
>>579866234I mean, it's Heresy. It's more acceptable there cause lol who cares? What really pisses me off is niggers doing this in my Maelstroms, bitch why did you queue for it if you're just going to go down and ragequit immediately???>Is ANYONE ELSE dealing with this?A fucking lot lately actually, I can't go a match without someone turning into a bot at least once in the run. It's kind of killing my vibe if I'm being honest.
>>579836726>implying it was only 3 It’s probably a month at this point he just keeps evading >>579865585You forgot most of the posts replying to him
>>579868543>I mean, it's Heresy. It's more acceptable there cause lol who cares?I care. It's a coop video games. you're here to play pox click. You don't just leave unless you have to get somewhere, or your ass is about to explode.And certainly not RIGHT AFTER SOMEONE SAVES YOU!
>>579864015BBBBBOOOOOOAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
>>579854457>hmm, I recall something about this posting style>check image MD5>the only other match is the thread where ratjeet had a 19 hour long meltdown in >>579177515It's all so tiresome.
>>579867434You're a fucking dumbass.Referencing random qualia and bullshit that has nothing to do with your argument, every fucking time you say something about literally anything, doesn't make you look smart.It makes you look like a psued. You're probably some <80 IQ thirdie desperate for validation.
What's up with the Votann? What are those funny little fellas all about? Also sorry I didn't get to actually chat about my question a few days ago, whether tech-priests need to eat or not. I got banned shortly after asking for unrelated crimes.
>>579871126Holy mother of cope
>>579871074that picture is from /v/ tho
Poxclick news when
>>579871971These loyalists asked for news
>>579872212
>>579839321No, it doesn't. I enjoy the combat a lot, but it's not nearly as addictive as the melee in -tide games, and the cover system could use some polish.
wtf is this rating lil bro
>>579871971When they remember there's a plot to advance.
>>579872670its $50 and its dubious if its better than the first game
>>579872670Genuinely awful writing with extremely repetitive voice lines. I turned character voice volume to 0. A lot of people weren't happy with the $50 price, which I can understand not wanting to spend on a coop game, but it's not something I'd hold against the game.
>>579872670>>579872962Oh yeah, I'll add that the grind for money and leveling all your weapons is very time-consuming as well if you don't just cheat your way into unlocking stuff like I ended up doing.
>>579872212Some things never change...
>>579877708The weekend is approaching and the coop genre is dead with no good games or updates.
>>579872670Not really surprising. Sad to say it seems like more of the first game.
>>579877930Far far west just updated :)
>>579877708sorry, the active posters are now allowed to post here anymore, the jannies want this thread to be gone
>>579877708I like the Mechanicus Power Sword.
RED WEAPONS SOON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>579879595>It'll just makes mobility 80 tooFucking USELESS!
You guys voted for your favorite cats yet?NMRiH 2 btw.
>>579879595Predictions?>game releases with an RNG slop loot system>the community fucking hates it>fatshark patches this twice and eventually does away with the RNG slop entirely>MUHBIAN STEAL update comes out>it's all RNG slop>it's all tied to an otherwise dead gamemode nobody wants to play>have to play 60 expeditions just for 1 chance at an 86% mobility melee weapon that hits the +1 dodge breakpoint, or some similarly arbitrary stat>don't get it>breaking the weapon down doesn't yield any mats you can use>actually getting a relevant statted weapon takes Borderlands levels of autism to farm>the entire system they introduced is just a hunt for a white whale that doesn't exist, and effectively just a huge nothingburger because those stat increases only matter in practice on maybe 2 weaponsI expect the worst, but I'm sure they'll somehow find a way to disappoint anyway. Maybe they'll completely break havoc and then go on vacation. Again.
>ban one user for spamming the n word>let multiple others spam it no probsnice selective moderation, cocksuckers
>>579881635>ban one userA deleted post doesn't necessarily hint at a ban. Jannies sometimes graciously just delete posts without issuing a warning or ban. It's also technically possible to false flag this by self-deleting a post.
>>579879595>we actually got poxclick newsI was just shitposting here >>579871971A surprise but a welcome one. I hope the update is fun.
>>579880807>>it's all tied to an otherwise dead gamemode nobody wants to play>Magnuson got mad that people ignored the Expeditions that was his brain child and called it a worthless waste of time, even youtubers like Mister E lambasted it accurately instead of sucking Fatshark off>Magnuson now forces the entire playerbase to engage with his gamemode out of pure spite.This is complete speculation on my part but somehow I got a feeling this is at least half true.
>>579866234It just happens. I've done something similar a few times for various reasons. One time I had played for too long and forgot what time it was. Then when I died I checked the time and realized oh shit i need to sleep and just alt f4'd. It might have looked like a rage quit from my teammate's perspective. But in reality the death made me realize how late it was. Sometimes if I need to leave due to real life things I might do one silly charge into the enemy, die and alt f4. It probably looks retarded but it's more fun to go out with a bang. A Slayer death, if you will. At least darktide is doing a reasonably good job at filling the empty spot. I get that it's annoying because you're helping someone get back up and it's like they don't appreciate the help.
>>579883005I get that, not everyone can type in a reason before dropping out. It's just frustrating it happens so fucking often.And yeah that did burn me hard. I'm a real team player type in these games. I swear I ping all resources, and there's at least one player every couple of games that just has those horse blinders up to everything that isn't pushing forward.I'm just trying to be helpful :c
>>579872212This shit can really happen bros, not just a meme webm. Just yesterday that fatass got a triple in my game and it was hell fighting everything back out of nowhere like that. For all I know it would have been the quad if I had gone right with them instead of left because I wanted to clear the medicae room.
>>579880239Suuuure I have. I definitely haven't been playing AFTE2 and the Wardogs playtest instead
>community wants x>"We the devs have heard you and will have a treat in four months!">Six months pass>Dev hosts Livestream with adds for shit no one wants and a boardgame>"Now for a little something special...">Plays a short 10 second video of what could be x >"Check back in two weeks!">Three weeks pass>Hosts another Livestream with a different and visibly agitated community manager>"After listening to the community we felt the time was right to finally introduce....b! Dropping next month!"Why are devs like this
>>579886641LMAO imagine complaining about b. Nobody ever wanted x, retard. *wipes dev cum from my mouth*
>>579886641People like you are why we can't have nice things anymore. Always something to complain about and never anything positive to say. You should just be grateful the devs are still working on the game at all. *applies for subreddit mod position*
>>579887337Kek
You can throw melee weapons in NMRIH2???
>>579881858True but that’s something of a rarity let’s be honest>>579889768LOL
>>579890904>>579881858Nah, I'm pretty sure that guy got a 3 day ban. Imagine that, getting banned for saying n-word on 4chan. And again, there's still other posts with that word up. Fucking pathetic mods
>>579886641Um, I'm sorry, are you a dev, sweetie? You're saying you would do better? Make your own game, then. *ungapes my asshole from the dev cock*
gunslinger in kf3 is kinda nice actuallyyou can switch between firing dual pistols left right left right, or shooting both at the same time on every left click. It was strange at first but now i don't wanna play without italso berserker confirmed
>>579879595>DevoutCalled it months ago lol SOBTRANNIES WONNED BIG TIME
>>579890446Yeah. You can throw all the stuff you carry around. Not sure how damage works with it all though.
>>579896108>>DevoutThat's a good catch, it might actually be an unsubtle hint, knowing these fags.I still don't see how they'd make that concept work in darktide, and assume it'll be something similar but different nonetheless. I guess we'll see.I'd be slightly worried though at how obvious of a cash grab this is, if true.
>>579886641I have no idea. but If I have to guess, if they actually just gave A with no problem, then that means everything else that the devs want to do after is just moot to the playerbase and they may just not come back.I mean look, for all we bitch and moan about game devs in general; we're not in the boardrooms getting the actual whys and whynots. And it all feels like the whims of a random few that get to dictate what get's done.Also in the case, GW I imagine ALWAYS has to have final approval on shit. Like with more cosmetics for dlc classes. I'm sure Fat Shark would love to do that, or advance the plot. But GW waggles it's finger and says "we say no :)"So we get more events and worthless crap until eventually GW says yes to something.
>>579901052>Fat SharkWelcome back dude, I thought you'd finally gone and done it.
>>579899781If they actually make it a jump-pack slayeresque Warrior Priest (with miracles/bubble) then...I don't know, suggest something and I'll do it.
>>579899781>Releasing new class as a buy to play dlc like usual>Cash grabHuh?
>>579902482>overnerf zealot into the ground until the only viable role that remains is some support sissy in havoc>sell the replacement class that's just an upgrade
>>579890446Yeah, but bladed weapons are better for it as they deal more damage when thrown and can embed (does nothing mechanically I think, but it still looks cool). Guns and anything else can be thrown as well but that's more of a last resort thing since they deal next to no damage and some stagger.
>>579879595Probably a Curio rework
>>579905939Damn, nigga got hips
>>579833361Why does her face remind me of Saltzpyre?
>>579906956>her
>>579838834Not like there's a lot coop games that fit the general desu.>>579840846What is it with schizo's self doxxing? I've seen it outside of this place, it's like they're desperate for attention.
>>579834142I still don't get games that do this. That means they actively went and made a whole list of "no you can't use these names." There's probably a workaround though.
>>579907598Maybe they’re hoping someone will come and pay them a visit so they can finally make a friend. A lot of them seem to act like that.
>>579906956The resemblance is uncanny.
>>579905939Wouldn't it be so weird to meet girls like this irl? Like haha look at how big their butts are and the tightness of the fishnet, so weird right? Haha imagine they tripped and landed on my lap butt first! Wild stuff man, wild stuff....
>>579910937damn, the eldar play yugioh?
>>579912401Fucking kek!
>>579912401I see a bit Willem Dafoe in there.
Uh oh stinky
>>579913705Nick you better wipe next time!
True survivor on first try cause i never wipeAss all shitty cause i ain't never wipeUse a heavy swordUse a shredderCause i get boredAnd i'm only getting betterAll the Havoc niggas know my nameAll my applications get acceptedHavoc niggas know no one's better at this gameClearing missions with ease and no talents selected
HOLY SKIBIDI DAB TOILET CHUNGUS SUSSY AMONGUSMR E JUST PLOPPED A GOLD TURD NUGGET FOR US TO FEAST ON!!!
>>579919193>making up a guy to get mad at
>>579919569Mr E is real, dude
>>579919868
>>579919193who?
>>579919193you mean fatshark did, mr e ate it, and pooped it out
Slaaneshi enemies in a Warhammer game/Darktide when? They’re so cool…
>>579921451Wow haha... COol indeed...
>>579921451>in a Warhammer gameYour total warhammer 3?
>>579921451I look like this
>hmm I'll take 10 nodes of "5% more damage, crit, crit rate and tdr for taking two steps. Stacks up to 20 times">why does the balance suck so much?
>>579922132How many years of gooning did it take?
>>579922752Only 10 because I took a shortcut and did it in inappropriate places which won’t be named
>>579921451The weird plasma cannon fused into its arm and that sexy ass sword is fucking choice what a great design I also like the weird snake things tongue wrapping around his leg things are about to get freaky
>>579922232Because of the 10 nodes existing
>limited powerEvery time I use Smite I lose like half an fps. By the end of the mission it's a slide show.
>>579923767>Have really good current tech no toaster >Psyker with smite and flame staff shoots around my character in a hallway and my computer starts screaming out in pain
>>579921451With Fatshark loves creating ugly and disfigured people, they could be more passionate at making games for players to play as Chaos or Ork something. Or is it playing as ugly and evil is something still too niche?
>>579901052>>579901516Is that the suicide dude? Hey fuck you buddy replying to your bullshit got me banned
>>579926609Was that the stated reason? Jesus. Will have to keep that in mind in the future…
>>579927412The stated reason was off-topic but I was clearly making a joke about expeditions being so shitty someone should die for it. Maybe it got bumped up to an admin that didn't really know about /coopg/ stuff though, I shoulda known it was a gamble to post.
>>579927596>clearly making a joke>around retarded /vg/ modsUH OH
>>579927596you are forgiven and everything will be ok but only if you look like that or post more like that
At last............. Yon whyte pantaloons...............
>>579926609It's the copaganda guy, are they one and the same? Lmao
>>579921451Funnily enough I’ve been reading up on some Lucius stuff and have come to realize I like Slaanesh aligned factions a lot. Emperor’s Children especially. Or at least their concept. Fabius and Lucius especially are very entertaining.
Please to report I finally, finally got the gone bowling achivement.Displeased to report it was via cornering myself during an empty auric mortis trial and letting the entire wave gather, and I still barely got it. It's essentially impossible to get during normal play, even during the endless hordes event or on up to mid scale havocs.
Are YOU a fair player, /coopg/?
>>579929868Yes. I let my team win 30% of missions and never sabotage more than 70% of them
>>579929868yes but only in ratclick poxclick is full of brown people so i sabotage all of my games as hard as i can
>>579928410>if you look like thatBuddy I look like an Ogryn but with a smaller cock.>post more like thatHey name is Yuka Takaoka if you're not already familiar with when she was a meme for a while. I thought about posting the real photo but the jannies might find it cause to strike me down again what with the naked dying guy behind her.>>579929868I actually did feel like this with Hive Scum so I stopped bringing boom bringer, gotta let the other lads have some fun once in a while.
>>579930465>when you call your husband to tell him to pick up hot chips while he's at the grocery store after you just murdered your kids
>>579930574Her love was pure don't besmirch her like this, she just wanted to be together with her boyfriend forever in the sweet release of death.
Time to play the arbites and imagine that the poxwalkers are BLM rioters as i splatter their skulls with my maul
>>579862341the game is optimized like shit but im sorry bro... that gpu is considered ANCIENT nowadays
Do we fw the fit /coopg/?
>>579932095One word: yikes!
>>579932236Watch yourself my belt has room for another skull
>>579932293Your asshole has plenty of room too. Come here, gorilla dick daddy's hungry
>>579932441Slaanesh chaos warrior gaming
>>579932441Embarrassing and weird post
>>579932505Didn't realize we had an expert on ape penis size and taste here
>>579932505White guy with beard truly is the main character phenotype of the human race
Next you're going to tell me that gorillas have the weakest glue
>>579932801It isn't, but it's actually not made by nor made of gorillas
I don't want none of that gorilla glue, give me Human Glue instead
>>579933627Yeah duh it's made FOR them
>>579933743By gorillas for gorillas
>>579912624You type in a brown way.
>>579896108>>579899781Devout is a common term that is used in the Imperium a lot and it is used for lot of things, from marines to even guard. There is no reason beyond copium to believe it is a hint about sisters.This is like last year where the devs revealed the roadmap, but then scum reveal got delayed (back then we didn't know what the class was going to be), so they revised the roadmap and then changed one of the texts to be red and white.People here unironically took as the devs were hinting the upcoming class was skitarii or admech related. Only for them to reveal hive scum.
>>579934438Well the Sororitas are easily some of the MOST devout fanatics for Big E, I wouldn't say there's "no reason" at all to make the connection, but it's definitely a tenuous one.
>>579934438>There is no reason beyond copium to believe it is a hint about sisters.I'd argue that "Adamant", "Broker" and "Cryptic" aren't the most poignant descriptors for the classes either. If you're going to bring up copium, it's probably more reasonable to suggest that the A -> B -> C -> D pattern is borderline schizophrenic to assume to be true, because our sample size is so small, and latching onto "Devout" is only a consequence of following that pattern. At the end of the day it's all speculation anyhow. I have no strong feelings about sissies either way, the faction is neat but I'm no AGP freak for lorefrag, like 80% of what I care about is just the gameplay implications.>People here unironically took as the devs were hinting the upcoming class was skitarii or admech related. Only for them to reveal hive scum.It was a bit of a reach, but fatshark has revealed time and again to be downright malicious, so there is a non-zero chance this was indeed intentionally misleading to troll us.
>>579934667It's just copium dude, looking at a tweet that says a commonly used word in fictional that gets used for basically anything in the said setting, and claiming that it 100% is a hint at X thing and only X thing, when it could be any other myriad of things, is fucking stretch and a half.I have said it before but I will say it again.Temper your expectations, we quite literally Nothing about the next class besides that it releases in December.
It's going to be sistersEvery class that was generally considered to be the most likely next class did in fact turn out to be the next classIt's going to be sisters
>>579935286People have suggested it could be a Hospitaller and I think that'd be kinda cool. Don't know much about them but the buzzsaw gauntlet looks sick.
>>579935286Proof this game is infested. Reddit class followed by tranny class.. tertium has fallen millions reject modernity return to tRATdition
>>579935585Kerillian was the first tranny class
>>579935704watch him revise history
>>579935704Damn, ratfags are so gay, unhiged lusting and hornyposting about Kerillian. Oh wait, they are furries, of course they are faggots.
>>579935704They hated him because he told the truth
>>579935286>It's going to be sistersIt's going to be the Crusader class. Based on the Black Stone Fortress board game.
>>579934438>was skitarii or admech related. Only for them to reveal hive scum.It was. It was meant to be skit, but they pushed it back to work on the talent tree, and to polish the class in general; they said so themselves on some random fucking behind the scenes on skitarii
>>579936461The broker name got leaked a long time before the hive scum was revealed
>>579935286>it's going to be sistersThis has been said before every dlc class and it has never once been correct
>>579936461>It was meant to be skitIt was not. It was never going to be skitarii.>they said it in the behind the scenesIn the specific behind the scenes they specifically also said that skittle was originally going to be the 1st class, but then they pushed it back. The push back was in regards to 2025 summer when arbites released not december.Skittle was never up for the cards in december at all and we know this because the devs are slow as fuck.Also your shit makes zero sense either way because in the original roadmap they released the text that said "new class" was just fucking orange.They then after they had to delay the fucking scum trailer, which we first got a teaser trailer of, then they changed the "new class" text color to be red and white for no reason.The december class was always going to hive scum and nothing else, the trailer itself proves it because we got the teaser of it first, and the teaser scene was included in the final hive scum trailer.
>>579935423>>579935286>hospitaller in darktideOkay, so:>Miracles: you/your team rack up stacks while killing enemies (with a sub-node to get some stacks if an ally gets incapacitated); stacks give you something, guaranteed crit, infinite cleave, whatever. Could work like Saltzpyre's WP Fury >Shield of Faith: some generic pseudo-psyker effect, might work to counter a trapper/dog/the new fly summoner, again - might be a copy of Saltz' WP bubble>Sacred Rites: you get like more rending/cleave on a crit lol, works for melee and ranged
>>579936898Said, but not generally considered to be the next class. Try to keep up
>>579937202>generally consideredI don't recall a poll going out regarding this.
>>579937260source: My Beloved told me
>>579937260We had a poll about it.>I don't recall a poll going out regarding this.well duhobviously we wouldn't ask you, you stupid dumb idiot
>>579937260Pretending to be obtuse or just retarded, which one are you?
>>579937329I fucking kneel
>>579833361I had seen this scene several times before and it turns out the full video was just gay nigger porn
How would a Sister of Battle even play?I assume they'd add a Storm Bolter and an Inferno Pistol.Maybe a meltagun too?
>>579937883>SoBNever getting her>HospitallerZealot but better at supporting and shooting and worse at melee
>>579937883>How would a Sister of Battle even play?You'll be playing a new game mode where you man the blowjob station to relieve returning Rejects of their stress after missions.
>>579937883Pole melee weapons with HEMA attack patterns and a OE style heavy bolter/flamer ability
>>579938005OE?
>>579938050Outlast engineer from vermintide
>>579866234Who gives a fuck if its heresyMeanwhile I had a havoc 34 with a an arbities who had True Survivor on, goes down twice at the start, Mercantile HL, in the room with the medicae, and goes offline without saying anything like the nigger he is.We still won the run with just 3
>>579937990Which sisterhood is that?
I would like an Aeldari character please.
>>579938005HEMA?
>>579939921Hardly Educated Malding Autists
>>579939921Hoes Eating Mad Ass
>>579939985Made me kek award
>>579939921Hurry, Extremely Massive Ass
>>579939921
>>579939921Hairy Erotic Male Ass
>>579940279In a cargo box?
>>579939921What Darktide could have if it had any soul.
>>579940584
>>579940694
>>579940821>>579940694>>579940584all of this is larp btw, it's as real as westerns, or wrestling
>>579941362Don't care it's cool
>>579940584>>579940694>>579940821>i-its just like muh IRL middle ages! so gritty and real and sovl!>actual history? no thats boring it needs dragons :DDDTOWfags are so embarrassing.
>>579942569Thanks for bumping, retard-kun
>>579942569brown
>>579929991based
>>579937883>How would a Sister of Battle even play?It'd genuinely just be another melee class like zealot but tankier, aka it's just fucking arbites again.
>>579943681Why does everyone say this about the class that is defined by the bolter, flamer, and melta?
>>579937202No, people have unironically been spam posting about how sisters are the 1st DLC class or the next class coming.These fucking threads were completely retarded in 2025 Autumn when the entire fucking thread devolved into Skitarii - SoB spam posting where both sides were trying one up one another.Sisters have been constantly been posted about everytime and people claiming that it'd be the next DLC class, only for it to be completely fucking wrong on each and every time.Sisters are just plain never ever happening because zealot already exists and it corporates everything from a ministorum priest, to a crusader/SoB to a Death Cult Assassin.Nevermind that Sisters arriving in Tertium would just be the same issue as space marines, aka both the game and story are over, aka it is never happening like the devs have said.Because there would no longer be a Tertium worth saving after they are done, it'll be a burned out husk of rockcrete and plasteel.
>>579942806No problem LARPer-kun, happy to bump the Darktide thread ;)>>579943265No need to sign your posts, Pablo, you will never be yuro.
>>579943841So the Zealot with +100 free toughness?
>>579943841Zealot also has the bolter and a flamer and is defined by them, and it is a fucking melee class regardless.
>>579944331NTA but the bolter is hardly a great weapon on zealot, what the hell are you talking about?>uhh... le magdump into crushers and monstersOn a melee class with melee weapons that rape those?
>>579944135I'm just saying it seems like they could be equally as likely to be ranged-focus heavy weapon specialists. They are bolter bitches and nuns-with-guns, after all. >>579944331The Zealot is defined by the flamer sure, the bolter ehhhh, that's a stretch imo. For the Sororitas, those weapons are even called their "holy trinity", I'd say those define them moreso than they would a Zealot. And I'm not saying that means they couldn't be a generic melee class--I cynically expect no less from Fatshark--I just don't get why everyone is so sure it's going to be a melee Zealot clone. Given their potential weapons, I could see their tree split into "Kinetic weapons" (bolter, bolt pistol, whatever autogun shit Fatshark decides to give them, etc.), "Flame weapons" (Flamer, Melta, Inferno Pistol... Melta bomb for a blitz maybe?) and then a "Faith + Melee" branch where you'd get some kind of I-dunno-what effects for their Acts of Faith/Miracles schtick. Let the kinetic side of the tree bleed into the melee stuff and the flame side of the tree blend into the faith related nodes. Are there any flame-based melee weapons a Sororitas might use? That'd be cool too, I miss Sienna's fire sword.I'm just spitballin though, I don't really care either way if we get a SoB. I do hope that IF we get one, they do NOT try to give 'em jump-packs anywhere in their kit. I do not want randos in my Aurics lobbing themselves off ledges with some janky Fatshark jetpack mechanic.
>>579944872>that's a stretch imo.It's not.When Darktide first released Zealot and Veteran were the only damn classes that had it, it does define the fucking class.And even now only other class that has gotten the bolter it is arbites, which isn't surprising since the bolter we have in Darktide specifically says in its small description it is the bolter pattern arbites like to use.Zealot is 100% defined by the bolter, if it wasn't, it wouldn't even fucking have the damn thing in the first place.
>>579945506Buddy this ain't "when darktide released" anymore, I hate to tell you. Almost half the cast has access to the bolter, and it's dogshit on a Zealot. Besides I'm talking about the LORE of the Sororitas and you're talking about the limited weapon selection Fatshark felt like giving to the class. Firstly, that's apples and oranges, and secondly we're not gonna pretend like Fatshark's weapon distribution or lack thereof amongst the classes makes sense now, are we?
>>579945506>zealot is defined byconstantly getting its damage nerfed out of viability, even in fucking auric. There are far more defining points to the class than a weapon that is now shared among 3 classes, and that isn't even good on the class. They made Until Death a mandatory pathing node, so that is probably the most defining aspect, and by extension, being extremely hard to kill in the hands of a decent player. Fatshark's balancing philosophy consistently hints at assuming a zealot is permanently in max Martyrdom stacks, with the other keystones being afterthoughts.>When Darktide first released What the other anon said, this is retarded as fuck.
Hell, I'd also argue the Ogryn doesn't really count since it doesn't get ANY human weapons. I mean shit, it was less "definitional" at launch now that I think about it, that WAS half the cast with it, and 2/3rds of the cast that would even be able to wield it. It's an even more ridiculous stance to take if you want to use historical states of the game as evidence.
COMIN' THRUWITCH ON MY ASS
I tried a shroud field knife inexorable build on Zealot today and had fun :D
>>579947591>inexorable>with knifeOne word: yikes!
>>579947905What's wrong with going fast?
>>579947998Missing damage, crit synergy and team buff. I wouldn't accept you into my aurics, let alone my havocs
>>579948119Why would I do havoc with a shitter who can't even do Auric like
>>579947905What weapon IS good with Inexorable?
>>579948239I sure wouldn't, that's why excrementable judgement shitters get auto declined
There is no way Skaven don't do abusive gay shit to each other randomly.
>>579948381"Good" is too strong a word, but those that have low finesse modifiers and bad mobility don't make as good use of piety
>>579947998NTA but you can go fast without going IJ. The 5% speed, and 10% speed, are both pathing nodes, nobody is forcing you to take the keystone too, you can just take a different keystone. Of course, doing so is expensive, but that's besides the point.I don't think IJ is worth using with the knife. I'd only build into IJ if focusing somewhat on ranged weapons (for Melk assignments or fun), it doesn't really have great synergy with any melee weapons. No, this includes the relic blade, attack speed benefits light attacks more, and spamming lights just locks you out of its mechanic too quick.The IJ hating retard is still an insufferable autist who should kill himself of course.
>>579948524>NTAYou wish you were, though
>>579948381On the melee side, it's mostly weapons that are already bad for IJ unrelated reasons. I think the best direct synergy might be chain axe, crusher, shock maul?Really the only tangible benefit IJ provides is giving its attack speed and damage to your ranged weapon. It's effectively zealot's ranged keystone. I probably don't need to tell you why "ranged zealot" is a retarded concept, so don't build around it and pretend it's good. But it is the best way to make your bolter stronger, so if you're addicted to the sissy LARP, it's your go-to choice of keystone.
>>579929991Ratclick is worse in that regard though so that’s a weird thing to say
>>579949982That's ratjeet. He pretends to be an agressively retarded vermintide fan in an attempt to create infighting between darktiders and vermintiders. He has had zero success so far
>>579948461Rats are pretty much just the cycle of abuse as a civilization aren't they?
>>579939921historical european martial arts
Call them HEMArrhoids cause it feels like a sword fight in my asshole
>ratjeet ban evading againwhen will it ever stop
>>579951506>yurop>any historylmao
>>579948461I would imagine they do every kind of cruelty imaginable to each other, but one important part about Skaven society is the drive to climb upward in status, wealth, and power. Prison-raping someone probably isn't going to serve any of those goals so they'd be more likely to spend their time scheming, backstabbing, and scheming about backstabbing. On the other hand... I believe you have to be a certain rank within Skaven society to have access to "breeder" females so... maybe there's a lot of gay rape actually. You'd have to assume they're horny as shit 24/7 with the way they breed.
>>579951908They have a history of being underdeveloped, killing eachother and dying in heatwaves
>>579951817>>579951908>exactly 30 seconds apart...You're the ratjeet.>>579952061Aaaaand you're samefagging as well.
>>579945924>constantly getting its damage nerfed out of viability>but broooo shitty balance changes doeIdiot
>>579951908Every planet in our star system is named for european culture. So's the sun.
>>579952215ESL brownoid
>>579952092You're wrong this time. I have slapped ratjeet's titties around more than anyone here
>>579952206Okay, where's the lie? Zealot doesn't feel powerful because it isn't powerful. The class fantasy doesn't matter if the mechanics don't back it up. Zealot is consistently the lowest damaging class, and you have to jump through hoops to achieve what most other classes achieve in a couple button presses. And no, even with stealth meme one-shots the overall numbers are still bad.
>>579945769>uhm that doesn't count because [retarded rambling about devs doing retarded shit]Congrats, you're a dipshit
>>579952515I accept your concession.
>>579952515You saw a bunch of letters and got scared and confused when you realized he was smarter than you
>>579952513>The class fantasy doesn't matter if the mechanics don't back it up.It does have them to back it up. Melee zealot is still by far one of the best damage dealers in the game, only reason why you think it doesn't feel powerful is purely because in shit like auric the enemies you are fighting get killed by your team mates with guns before you even run at the enemies to kill them. And the gamemode suppplies so much ammo that they can do this for the whole mission and never run out of it.And in havocs zealot is forced into support cuck duty purely because Chorus is so retardedly strong thanks to piss toughness and all the stagger that enable boss rape with skullcrusher and ledging, that not running Chorus is quite literally you griefing the team.Only way they could make FotF zealot comparable to Chorus in havoc would be to make it so that the charge staggers a boss if you hit it and you activating it spreads piss toughness to you and your allies.Nevermind that we also know the devs are not at all done with the skilltrees in the game, after they released the new ones in 2025 before Scum they already they wanted to and were going to tweak them further.Stop using developers retarded decisions as evidence, only evidence it is for that devs are retarded.
>>579932505>>579932441It’s always funny watching someone walk into this trap>>579932575And that’s a good thing (here’s why)
>>579953352>Melee zealot is still by far one of the best damage dealers in the game,>immediately acknowledges in the same paragraph that zealot isn't a good damage dealerAnon are you okay? Do you have mild to severe brain damage?
>>579935704got his ass there
>>579942569Wouldn’t that be Fantasyfags rather than TOW in particular? >>579951908You’re trying too hard here
Lmao in what fucking world is Zealot one of the best melee damage dealers in the game? He gets cucked by Veteran with power sword, Melee Psyker, Power Maul Ogryn, as well as Skitarii and Hive Scum running whatever the fuck they want. Arb is the only class Zealot is competing with in melee damage right now. And for Zealot to even do competitive melee damage they pretty much rely on the Relic Blade or the Eviscerator, and even then you have bust your ass to keep up with most the classes in the game. But I guess if you're so metabrained you only ever play chorus zealot and only ever allow chorus zealots in your havocs its understandable to not be up to date on just how badly zealot has been powercrept by all the other classes.
>>579954658>Arb is the only class Zealot is competing with in melee damage right nowAnd that's only because most arbishitters brick their builds by skipping vitally important nodes and using useless abilities. BTL/AV with a good weapon, Soulguilt Scan and TtW completely shits on zealot still.
>>579939228The one that belongs to me>>579937742Isn’t it just a cartoon
>vet power swordI don't believe there's any person who actually enjoys playing with this, even after the buff having to constantly press the keybind to power it up is such dogshit design
>>579930465>>579930864I actually don’t remember hearing about this at all. Huh. Thanks for explaining.
>>579934984rare good ESL post
>>579958094What's wrong with falchion btw, don't see anyone running it
>>579959160Its weak
>>579959421But why, just not enough damage? (on le haphouqe)
>>579959580Not enough damage + heat mechanic means you can barely kill 2 crushers in aurics before it overheats if you're playing vet, and the cleave damage isn't anything special either. You'd be better off using a rashad combat axe
This one's for you, Papa*shits my pants*
Are you guys ready for the AAA starcraft coop game blizzard is about to announce? I hope it's just space marines 2 but better
>>579966389Starcraftide
>>579966389>zergclickno thanks
Desperado Scummer + Vraks Infantry Autogun is surprisingly comfy.
>>579966389Heroes of the Storm, but it's a tidelike, and also they keep the skimpy outfits literally impossible
>>579966683>>zergclickkek
Be on the lookout for this faggot. He joined my gamed, died, complained, and then when I resed him at a nurgle checkpoint, he just stood there on purpose not moving.I told him in chat, hey let's go, heal up. He just stood there. I thought he was afk but then a mutant came and he dodged it no problem. Then I told him, look if you're not gonna move, I'll just vote kick.Smug fucker explains how to do it for me. Then I realize he's just griefing, and quickly made a report before we game over'd. I got netted for my treuble, but got it in.Smug fucker probably thinks he got a sick epic troll in. Little does he know, I have the power of "spreading the word".
>>579969172You shouldn't have given him the chance, just immediate vote kick
>>579966389It'll unironically kill darktide if that's what they do, and probably Fatshark as a wholeand it's not even because Blizzard is a good dev or something. No it'll be horrid, but it'll still be better than a game that gets no updates ever
>>579969448I tried. but it was hammer of the emperor and my team was too busy dying.
>>579969172>toxic retard griefer>it's a globiePredictable.
>veteran function is a terran marine>zealot function is ... a zealot>psyker function is an high templar>ogryn function is a marauderholy fuark...
>>579969172not your personal army faggot
>>579971326I'm not here asking people to do something. I'm just spreading warning on a asshole.
Anyone else ever randomly just not be able to select/use grenades anymore across multiple games and different characters?
>>579972770Happened to me on Psyker recently, couldn't select blitz, had to restart game
>>579966389>what if 40k… but we stripped it of everything that makes it interesting??classic blizzard
behold the intelligence of console players
>>579979998Doesn't this game have permadeath?Their characters all got deleted because of that?
>>579980291If you buy and equip a rescue beacon, you'll get your character back. You'll just have to rebuy equipment, including the beacon, but it's pretty easy to do that unless you're dying constantly or letting yourself go broke rerolling perks.
>>579980516Can you play solo? How difficult is the game like that?I played the first NMRIH and it was a dumpster fire.
>>579980291it was a nightmare match so anyone there that didn't have a beacon equipped on loadout perma died.
>>579966389id play it, firebats are cool, im tired of the lack of flamerthrowersand i would say its closer to starship troopers than the movie games, kinda like the show
>>579980675Sounds fun.Darktide should be the same.
>>579980653It's only really hard in Nightmare, and even then, I'm sure more experienced players don't have much problem with it unless their whole team is trash. You can play solo, but it doesn't give any rewards.>I played the first NMRIH and it was a dumpster fire.In what way? I enjoyed the first one and am pretty happy with 2, so depending on what you didn't like, it may not be for you
>>579980862>You can play solo, but it doesn't give any rewards.Wow really? That's bullshit.
>>579980653you can play solo and zombies scale, probably 30 to 40 zombies max solo with a max of 100 with 8 players.
>>579980952You also don't lose anything, so if you have a maxed character, you can just keep playing solo with it as you please
>>579979998Stuff like this makes me happy that Survival exists because it keeps (some of the) capital r Retards out of Objective.>>579980291Adding onto what >>579980516 said, 2 out of 4 difficulties as of now have respawns.
>>579934984I remember people saying the same stuff about both Arbites and Skitarii. I will not temper my expectations any longer. SoB WILL happen. My faith has been proven true too many times. I am free from doubt.
People dismissed the idea of Arbites class because of le reject theme. Now that it's off the table anything is possible.
>>579983159I really doubt we'll get non-humans just for how weird the dialogue conditions would have to get, but sure.
>>579966389I will play it if I can be a Zealot
just noticed Space Marine 2 is 75% off on steam right now, if anyone has been considering buying it.
>>579979237Ironic since that’s also what they did with Warcraft
>>579991723Is it much better than the first one because I didn't like that one
>>579998237The gameplay is fun, but in my opinion it's missing that extra bit of "sauce" to it. A lot of the guns while satisfying to use do not sound like bolters at all. Game has a bunch of little things like this that are missing. It doesn't feel fully accurate to the amount of "heft" it should be portraying.
>>579998237Couldn't tell you, I'm just picking it up now myself. I tried it very briefly on launch and said "This feels like a gears of war clone" and then refunded it, but I'll give it a real shot for this price.
>>579998237It's a lot more fleshed out than the first but far more poorly designed. You can tell the game went through at least two massive overhauls and had a last second pivot 6 months or so before release. It's a lot better now than at launch but it's absurdly grindy and unlike all their other titles you can't just cheat out the grind. I'd say it's worth it at around $10 but I wouldn't recommend it beyond that because the first ~12 hours of co-op is abysmal dogshit due to not having any leveled weapons and the campaign while neat isn't anything to actually write home about.
>>580002761>the campaign while neat isn't anything to actually write home about.I don't like SM2 at all and I thought the gameplay was asscancer when I played it, but I enjoyed the campaign for its mindless bombastic action like it was a Michael Bay movie. Feels pretty normie slop, and I got more enjoyment out of watching someone else deal with the godawful gameplay, but I do think it's worth the money (discounted) just for the campaign experience. If you can tolerate the gameplay, even better. It just wasn't for me.
so what's your favorite coping mechanism, anon?
>>580007630escapism
>>580007630
I've been banging my head against these penances but I still can't do them >knock 7 enemies off a ledge in 10 sec as psyker>kill 40 stunned enemies in 10 sec as zealot>knock 60 enemies with a single charge as ogryn Any tips or ways to get help with these?
>>580010715>>knock 7 enemies off a ledge in 10 sec as psykerDark Communion has a very convenient spot right in front of the first medicae. Use Smite with no damage upgrades, lock enemies on the narrow bridge, then look in the exact direction you want to fling them before releasing, I believe that's how you throw them off.>>kill 40 stunned enemies in 10 sec as zealot>>knock 60 enemies with a single charge as ogryn Both of these should be doable in Mercantile HL-70-04, as the section immediately after blowing up the wall in the start spawns an infinite trash horde. Just kill the elites first.Use https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1174 to load into an OLD mission to prevent some random fag from joining and fucking shit up for you, if you don't want to bring along a second player for a private game. Obviously make sure to host in damnation for maximum trash density, but no specialist spam.
>>580007630pure, unrelenting, burning eternal hatred against any and all, for mildest reasons imaginable>how is this copeI cope by getting even angrier
>>580010715>knock 7 enemies off a ledge in 10 sec as psykerI got this yesterday randomly using Psychic shirek or whatever it's called on of these thin metal bridges.
>>580007630Weight lifting
>>580011963Thanks>modsI haven't gotten into that yet>damnationThat's way out of reach for me, I still die occasionally on MaliceMaybe these are just out of reach unless I git gud
>>580016413It's doable without mods, but you will need a private lobby with a +1 and then run the corresponding map from the story mission selection.>I still die occasionally on MaliceYou can probably do the psyker one without too much difficulty. 40 stunned kills in 10, and charging through 60 enemies, may be out of reach on the lower difficulties though. They're already really annoying to do organically.
>>580007630Hypnosis
>>580017293Sissy hypnosis?
>>580017684are you the guy that's been making homosexual remarks? is it an attempt at >>580017293?
I AM A MANLY MAN YOU ARE NOT GONNA TURN ME INTO A CROSSDRESSING, BODIED, FLYING FREAK
As someone who's relatively new to DT, I feel like default Auric is just slightly above VT's champion difficulty and could be done with one eyes closed.
>>580019097Now try again without getting your hand held by 3 reasonably competent players, on a relatively easy director seed. Soloing an unforgiving director seed, with 3 dead weight teammates that just hug the floor all mission, can be harder than h40 with a decent party. Granted, it's a slightly different skill set, and havoc is kind of a different game entirely.If you are actually a fucking genius god gamer and are effortlessly soloing aurics already, it might be time to look into playing havoc. As long as you can find some humility and accept that you need to rely on others to win, you'll fit right in.
>>580019413Trying too hard to be tuff here retard.
>>580019097Get back to us after you have played a shocktrooper gauntlet
whats the best class for carrying high havoc pubs groups?
>>580020763Chorus zealot
Is this tool tip correct? 20% stacking 4 times? I'm guessing it's 20% total.
>>580019097auric is just damnation with extra mods, its not like heresy and legend where the hp is different, and even then most of the time the mission mods lie
>>580021760Check the OP for kuli guides.>just answer the question faggotpicrel
>>580021760Correctiskibidimundo
>>580020763The one where you host your own havocs, install an inspect mod, and scrutinize applicants. You will learn with time what the hallmarks of a fucking worthless retard are, and what kind of build(s) to decline. Explaining this would likely yield many a (You) but also quite possibly a handful of melties from users who swear by the most retarded builds imaginable, so we'll have to trust your own judgment.>what classChorus zealot is a good one as the other anon said, not because it's particularly strong, but because most chorus zealots are rather dumb and misuse one of the most impactful abilities in the game. Ensuring that doesn't happen by ensuring that someone not entirely retarded plays that role, tends to be quite effective. The premier choices are relic blade + flamer, or crusher (pure debuff slut) + bolt pistol (aoe mark with aoe blessing). The bistol variant specifically lets you effortlessly stagger dogs off of teammates and suppress large groups of gunners while also buffing your crusher explosion radius, and gives you the ability to shoot specialists when your designated specialist-killer is too busy shitting in a designated street. The RB/flamer variant tends to deal a fuckload more damage, but can't solo infinite amounts of ragers like crusher does it.>but I hate zealotIf you're really, really good at the game, 100% viscosity pure melee scum is the best class. Psyker is too obvious and oversaturated, you shouldn't struggle to find a good psyker after declining a dozen retards. The next best one is probably vet. An excellent vet makes a truly ridiculous difference, and a slightly more melee-focused build can clutch with the best of them, it's just stressful as FUCK.
>>580020763>>580022435Oh and, assuming you don't mind going through the effort of using an inspect mod and sitting in the party finder for sometimes upwards of half an hour (it happens), once you do get a good team together, the sheer rarity of ogryn makes it a very high value suggestion. PBB rumbler is the strongest it has ever been, and has been retarded OP since the inception of havoc, just nobody played it before the giga buffs. As long as you have a good Shock Trooper vet to take care of faraway enemies without gobbling up all the ammo, PBB rumbler just wins the game so convincingly, psyssies regularly dilate over ogryns not bringing taunt because their scoreboard number looks flaccid by comparison.
>>579928925Lucius is very fun. A lot of people hate him but he fills his role his very well. If you haven’t already you should read The Faultless Blade. Action packed with some cool scenes involving him and also has Fabius playing a major role in it. Lucius in general usually delivers great fight scenes as you might expect, some of the best in the setting. I always found it entertaining that he’s always sandbagging unless offended/pissed off.
>>580023024>Lucius is very fun
>>579833361Should I pick Darktide back up? I haven’t played since skulls because I wanted the shekels, didn’t buy skitarii either
>>580028462The answer is always yes
>>580020763I found most success with ogryn/zealotZealot for obvious reasons, mentioned by other postersOgryn because most of the ogryns were fucking dogshit nightmare useless, a bad vet can do better if you physically swat enemies off of him and ping specials, a bad psyker means you have to kill more trash but it's not that badA bad ogryn will fucking sink your team to the depths of hell
>>580029567>A bad ogryn will fucking sink your team to the depths of hellTrue, a bad ogryn is just a taunt bot that doesn't do anything and eats ammo pickups then does nothing with them somehow.I unironically have no idea how they do it. Even rumbler and GG shitgryns manage to do nothing with the ammo they consume, despite those two weapons being retardedly OP.
Poxwalkers should start shitting on you whenever you're disabled
So what makes a good Ogryn then?
>>580034625the one that plays not ogryn
>>579966389I hope this is true. I need some good coopslop by people that actually make fucking maps
>>580034625In Havoc? Skullcrusher blessing, or pickaxe brittleness blessing push spam. Good aggro control without constantly eating shit. Playing bodyguard for the squishies. Actually using his explosive ranged weapons with good blessings.A lot of ogryns somehow aren't useful in melee (don't ask me how they do it), and don't use their guns enough. The most effective ogryns I see use their guns more than the melee, but obviously require that the team doesn't hoover up their ammo. The nuke can instagib daemonhost rituals, and a good ogryn will hit those from far away with reliable accuracy (not that this should be hard, given the visible arc you get for throwing them). Of course, being judicious about your blitz usage is another skill that many don't possess.Ogryn should primarily be drafted alongside a vet for both Field Improv and ammo aura. That vet must be Shock Trooper, or a good enough player not to waste all of his ammo. It's relatively narrow, original 4 is just about the best lineup for ogryn, although you can sub out the psyker for scum, since rumbler unconditionally deletes hordes.In auric? As long as you kill shit and don't plant your shield to uselessly TOOONK, it's kinda hard to be useless. All the ogryn hate has always been significantly fucking retarded. Even pre-buff PBB was a good build in spite of what all the ogryn-hating niggers kept spamming every other thread. The problem is that most players in general are very retarded, and dumb ogryns just stand out because they delete all the ammo on the map to do nothing with. Also PBB is apparently deceptively difficult to play because ogryn-hating retards can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept of crouching, bracing, and burst firing their gun.
>>580022663>>580020883>>580029567sounds like chorus zealot and some kind of ogryn build it is. Might try to find some brain off easy ogryn build though to start.>>579966389I wish they would make a good triple A coop slop game in the starcraft universe
>>580035626>Might try to find some brain off easy3 health curio zealot with the health regen talent at the bottom also does the trick. Colloquially known as fatmangus (even if I think that actual build isn't great). The actual details and weapon choice of that build don't matter, just that you take the health regen node, and can easily consider picking up the +2 wounds as well. Works best as a pure crusher support slut because then you're skipping all the point tax needed to take good damage talents, but I trust you'll figure out what works for you.Another important thing to consider is that, if you're referring to specifically havoc 20-35(ish), BTL LW arbitrator with shock mine spam may be superior. It's one of the best crutches for shitters who can't do anything, whether that's survive, or pass DPS checks. But zealot and ogryn are definitely superior in h40, where arbitrator doesn't really have much of a role anymore.
ty for the feedback guys, ogryn and zealot it is.Now which zealot voice is the best?
>>580036049Fem agitator for pure cringe kino. Else male fanatic.
>>580036049Male? AgitatorFemale? The one Anons simp for
>>580022663pbb with any gun that isnt the heavy stubber is so retarded to play with that its one of the few builds i actively filter out when searching/creating havoc lobbies, strong builds are fine but if youre out here rocking the "anti-fun screen nuker 3000" build like purg psyker or pbb rumbler im straight up just not going to play with you cuz i want the game to be fun, not easy and boring
>>580036240Which is a good case for being one of the better, and easier builds to carry with because it's so fucking retardedly overpowered.
>>580035789>BTL LW arbitrator with shock mine spam may be superiorironically, this has the lowest winrate out of any ability/keystone setup across any class in havoc despite it all
>>580036328>this has the lowest winrate According to one anon who ran data against a reasonable but ultimately still small data set, and I forget what level range that was in. So take that data with a grain of salt.It's also important to note that arbitrator players are by far the most unimaginably fucking retarded droolers this game has ever seen, and a vast majority of them run completely useless bricked builds with useless abilities and misuse their mines on fucking poxers.
>>580036321thats true, but in that case use the twin linked stubbers cuz it is both more fun to play despite being retarded OP and tramples on the rest of the teams fun less cuz no explosions every second coating the roomstill pumps out millions of damage and is frankly way more ammo efficient, i routinely took 3x less ammo than vets and arbites and still did over 2x their total damage in h40s
>>580036403>>580036049scratch that, the schizo one is called Agitatorget that oneFanatic is the one with >BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR>SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONEwhich is also kinema but Agi is better
>>580036436i wasnt aware there was a dataset for it, i was referring to the metrics FS hasi honestly expect them to look at that and buff LW soon cuz of it, without taking into consideration the fact that like you said and what i agree with, the vast majority of people running it arent the best players at the game and not even arbites reliable damage and survivability with lw can make up for the fact that they dont have a dog doing 2x more work than they are
>>580036706>i was referring to the metrics FS has>the lowest winrate out of any ability/keystone setup across any class in havocYeah I'm going to call bullshit on that until you provide a source, because that's the first time I hear of such a thing. Even if that seems 100% plausible and I have no reason to doubt it.
>buffing Lone Wolffor what purpose
>>5800368922nd hand source, one of the testers mentioned it so basically a "just trust me bro"if they do buff it in the next patch or two then my intuition was correct>>580036940spreadsheet balancing, buff what loses up to what winssurely this cannot be a bad idea
>>580037081>one of the testers mentioned it so basically a "just trust me bro"Sure, I believe it.>surely this cannot be a bad idea>>580036940LW shock mines is plain bad, in the sense that any problems that it solves, are bad to solve in the way that it works. Dangerous amounts of armor piling up is a DPS issue, not a control issue. Control issues with a FUCKING ARBITRATOR in the team is an arbitrator issue, not a blitz issue. Shock mines are stellar without lone wolf, but if you need one every 90 seconds, that's a sign your team (composition/players) sucks. I don't know why they nerfed it in the first place. Maybe it was too strong in the hands of shitters or something, but it is just so much worse than the alternative. LW's personal buffs don't even make up for losing the dog, so all you get is the blitz regen. Grenades are fine actually, but losing the dog for mine spam isn't worth it when the dog can lock down otherwise stun immune enemies, and fetch snipers and disablers if you're good at catching them, without any ammo cost, letting you further stretch your shotgun's already stupid ammo for sniping or zapping depending on which mark you use.
>>580036049The female or the male with the Scottish accent. The Batman one also grew on me.
LW should not regen your mines/grenades, change my mind.>there are too many regenerating blitzes in the game>it changes their identity from a powerful, limited blitz to a regular ability>fuck off why the fuck should it regen in the first place
>>580037759It's fun.
>>580036049Female fanatic. She's a bloodthirsty psycho with a Scottish accent.Fem agitator sounds like Invader Zim to me
>>580037759It's the only thing making LW competitive with the dog>it changes their identity from a powerful, limited blitz to a regular abilityArby grenade is not that powerful. Blitz balancing, in general though, is all over the place for that matter, so it's hard to really care about this point at all.
>>580037306>I don't know why they nerfed it in the first place.>pocket smite that doesnt require you to stop attacking, active for 1/4th of the entire gameits strong when used right but its also super easy to misuse making shit take longer or actively killing your team by blocking them off from hallways when you need to move so now they might have to think about where its used and not throw it off cooldown>>580037759i agree on too many regening blitzes which is why i was crashing the fuck out when toddlers were saying that skitarii blitzes should regen (and they won in regards to the fucking FULL RANGED IMMUNITY BLITZ)shock mines make sense for that but impact grenades would be in a similar spot to shredder grenades, where their value comes less from the value of a single blitz use but more from the consistency and availability of immediately weaker blitzes being used more across a mission. like if vet grenades didnt have means of regenning, people would be shitting and pissing their pants. this would require a pass on the non-dog grenades to have more value per pickup to justify the lack of regen, and while i wish it could be toning the other non regen blitzes to be more sane, scum is literally in the game and they havent given them any meaningful nerf like they shouldve done ages ago so that route looks like its gonna stay untraveled.speaking of, its already having to directly compete with the dog bomb, which is inherently a regenning resource. how are the other two in their current state gonna compete with another blitz with the same advantages as above, especially when taking lone wolf locks you out of that option? on launch, it was likely more of a bandaid option to cover that, can you imagine how many babies would be crying if the arbites took THEIR grenades because they had the audacity to not take the dog?i hate video game balance can we blow up stockholm real quick
>>580038195Buff them, then. I'm all up for it.But make them non-rechargeable, increase the charges you get or whatever but make them compete with other blitzes>ogryn nade>scum rocket... well maybe not to that degree, but you get the point.
>>580038391>impact grenades would be in a similar spot to shredder grenadescorrect me if I'm wrong but shredders can't stunlock bosses? or stagger them in the first place? been a while since I played shreddervet since they nerfed the rending spam lelalso they deal a FUCKTON of damage to bosses, not as much as the enriched uranium pocket rocket the scum has but still
>>580036049Most popular is female Fanatic, then male Judge. In Asia, more people play female chars, so female Judge maybe ties as second place with male Judge pick rates.>FanaticBoth genders are happy bloodthirsty killing. Call others kindred. Both loves drinking, but male one is a lot more so openly. He's somewhat a drunkyard grandpa, but not annoying kind and actually nice grandpa. Least judgmental Zealot to Psyker. Simple calling Big E as the Emperor.>AgitatorHighly pretentious and love to act eloquently. Commenting Ogryn and Vet good performance are all thanks to the Emperor guidance and protect. Hate Psyker the most out of all Zealot personalities. Call others are sinners and Big E as Master of Mankind (it may lacks oompf feeling when cheering or fighting). Female agitator loves to say a lot about things, it's sometimes hard to pay attention entire conversation she has in high intense action. Doesn't help that Zealot has the lowest damage potential for killing spree, it's hard to trigger Zealots conversation with other classes.More gleefully feeling killing special voice lines.>JudgeVery loud and hateful feeling when killing specials. Call others as pilgrims and big E as the Beneficent Emperor. Male Judge loves his loudness because he thinks it helps inspiring others despite it may well attracts heretics to attack entire team faster. Female professional Vet is into him and they love to compete with each other in killing heretics. Female Judge, often she sounds harsh but she doesn't mean ill-mannered in what she says, like complimenting Ogryn as "Stupid but efficient".I don't play Fanatic, male Agitator and female Judge enough to explain more details about them if you are wondering why I don't have much to talk about them.
>>580038391>>pocket smite that doesnt require you to stop attacking, active for 1/4th of the entire gameOn the class that has BTL, which already does that without removing the dog. You don't need a belt AND suspenders on what is already fucking overalls. Shield flashbang and shotgun stun rounds continue to stunlock everything when BTL doesn't cut it. LW mine spam is only actually useful if your build is complete and utter ass otherwise. Also impact nades are good and in a fine spot atm imo.>FULL RANGED IMMUNITY BLITZCompletely useless dogshit btw, giving up the skull is fucking retarded and any replacement blitz would have to be extremely powerful to compete lol.>>580038572>shredders can't stunlock bosses?They can and do, they're just not commonly used that way because of their delayed fuze and horde clear specialization.
>>580038572shredder nades do stagger bosses, and if you chain them youre still capping out on bleed against a boss which is a fair amount of total damage as it runs its courseand yeah their direct damage is higher but thats pretty much it, dont get me wrong i like the impact grenades but id be lying if i said the value a full grenade pickup of them was close to equal to most other common non-regen blitz that are used, which was the point i was making
>>580038391>more value per pickup to justify the lack of regenFuck it, give arby like 6 grenades. Fuck it give him 8, who gives a fuck. >compete with the dog bombDog is the primary reason why you bring the dog, dogbomb is good but I'd hardly call it THE reason why you bring the dawg.>can you imagine how many babies would be cryingI can, and I truly do not care. Nor should Fatshark, babies cried about the power sword, the dueling sword and the plasma too.>can we blow up stockholm real quickYes, please.
>>580038873>the dueling sword and the plasma tooit took them like a year after they initially planned to nerf them (poke them downward a little bit) because of the explicit reason that they were scared of the babyrage backlash that would follow
Grenade pickups and charges are balanced for Malice, regenerating grenades is for Havoc players so they're not practically useless. If you want them balanced, you have to sacrifice Havoc for it.
>>580038408Then you also have to rework LW to be an appealing option alongside the plethora of other changes that would need to be made to accommodate this....from the same group that can't get half the weapons right despite most of those having been around since release. I'm not saying blitzes couldn't use some re-tuning, but it's unlikely, and if it happens, be wary of the monkey's paw.
>>580039106...what?
>>580039106Or just make them giganigga broken in Malice, and balanced in Havoc.Babbies would like it, press a button make the screen go boom, kill many (6) poxwalkers at once! Look, pretty colors, funny noise!I understand where you're coming from (game revolving around 95% of the playerbase instead of the tryhard retards), but I don't think it's an impossible thing to balance between those two modes.
>yeah bro just balance the game around the Weaves
>>580039145>rework LWWould you? Besides, that's also on the table.> plethora of other changes that would need to be made to accommodate thisLike what? The entire point of this conversation is that (in my opinion) the Arbites has good enough base kit to not need LW infinite mines as a crutch, and as that other anon said - if you are having problems with a wall of iron you're lacking DPS, not crowd control.LW could use a slight identity change, but I don't trust these swedish retards with that.
>>580039401Weaves? What's that? Never heard of no Weaves in my Darktide gamu
>>580039175The regenerating grenades are intended for Havoc and no other difficulty, it's why there's a relatively long recharge for them. Heresy and below gets less value out of grenade regen because it doesn't take as long to run the levels, there are long stretches where the level is basically empty of enemies, so you rely more on pickups there. On Havoc, it can take the average team up to half an hour to clear, slogging through hordes the entire time.
>>580039696>The regenerating grenades are intended for Havoc and no other difficulty,Hey the impact grenades are fucking excellent in auric with LW.
>>580039803>AuricWhy the fuck do you think you're qualified to even have a say in this discussion?
>>580039892>havoc poser nigger is backJust kys already
>>580039970>xhe didn't even manage to clear Havoc 20 and is having a melty againlmao
>>580039803I don't bring up Auric because it's in a weird spot between the intended difficulties of Uprising-Damnation and Havoc, it's too inconsistent in difficulty through the whims of the director and average player skill to make any concrete claims. Do you balance it for the newbies fresh out of Damnation with unleveled weapons and suboptimal builds and playstyles? Or do you balance it for the Havoc players dropping down to have a laugh with off-meta builds?>>580039892Shut up you overly hostile faggot.
>>580039696Holy shut the fuck up and just play the game broLearn to know when your blitz is most useful in the difficulty youre in its not that hard
>>580039970holy insecurityjust mere mention of havoc causes you to lash out so much? lmao YWNBATS lil chuddie
>ratjeet woke up
>>580040018raped that freak>>580040086>everyone I don't like is the 'jeetcmon
>havoclets getting uppity againOH NO NO NO NO NO
>>580040171Will they ever learn?
It really is amazing watching what ensues after someone says the word jeetLike idk the context or how it started but its fun watching the thread turn into a Town of Salem game every time it happens without fail
>>580040272okay ratjeet
>>580039580>Would you?I already said the regenerating blitzes is its sole quality that makes it appealing compared to running dog. You'd have to replace it with something anyway, and it'd have to be something good.> that's also on the table.Yes, and the more you pile on for this rework to blitzes, the more unrealistic it becomes.>Like what?Almost all the blitzes that would need to be reassessed. A number of talent nodes in multiple trees would need to be replaced. It would be a a lot of work to do decently well.>The entire point of this conversation is that (in my opinion) Arbites has good enough base kit to not need LW infinite mines as a crutch, and as that other anon said - if you are having problems with a wall of iron you're lacking DPS, not crowd control.All of this has absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm saying. Maybe I misunderstood and anon only wanted to remove Arby's nade regeneration and not (virtually) all of them. In that case, my bad for not reading carefully, and the workload is obviously much smaller.>but I don't trust these swedish retards with that.And yet you trust them to remove regenerating blitzes and leave blitzes in a better state than they currently are instead of just doing something lazy/incompetent? Even if we're just talking about Arby, (as I'm thinking at this point we are and that I misunderstood) I give it 50:50 odds.
>>580040272sure, whatever you say ratjeet
>>580040318>remove Arby's nade regenerationYeah, we're speaking about Taco Bell's regen specifically. So I can't really respond to the rest of your points lol
I think guaranteeing grenade pickups at certain points in the level like medicae stations instead of the RNG crates would solve the problem. Turn grenade regen into extra charges instead. That way you have X grenades to use through a section before you know you'll get more. That's how it worked for L4D's safe rooms.
>>580040558>I think guaranteeing grenade pickups at certain points in the levelThat would require reworking grenade pickups in general, because the lowest IQ individual in the team is going to instantly snort them up his hooked nose for no reason other than "mine!!" instead of marking the nade for the scum to pickup.
>>580040558Hey, it worked in Verjeettide, just plop down an ammo box next to the medicae and you'll give the players a way to budget out their pickups between crucial points of the maps, instead of just hoarding them like a jew or counting on infinite regen
>>580040712Vermintide had actually good players who were able to think as opposed to mentally disabled 40kfags
>>580040660You can justLock them to 1 per player, with one for each at the resource point
>>580040660I think he means a pick-up for each player. Or it could have variable amounts of refill charges just like the medicae do. I think that's a pretty decent idea honestly. It would probably give them a lot more control over blitz balance in the long run, because the factor of random pick-ups and/or regeneration don't have such a heavy impact now.
>>580040660Guaranteed 4 pickups, or mock up a resupply servitor with charges and set it up next to the medicae servitor. Could probably do away with ammo regen as well if you had something like that in the game.
>>580040805You're not even subtle at this point, come on
>>580040805brown
>>580040878He's already started his samefag diarrhea all over the thread, it was obvious 15 minutes ago. Just ignore him and do the thing you're supposed to.
Pretending to be ratjeet has to be the best feeling you can get in this thread. I don't even need to come up with something elaborate like the ripperschizo.
>>580041017>do the thing you're supposed to.... but I don't know what am I supposed to do, sah.
>merely pretending he wonned btw please do not redeem*yawn*
>>580041246>ratjeet samefagging again
>>580041134I think i talked about the pros of the rippergun here, was it someone saying it did good damage? Or just had utility for a melee build, cuz its definitely lacking in damage without pbb like most ogryn guns (when can we nerf pbb so we dan buff the guns)
>>580041293... but I'm mocking him? lol
The jeeter of ratsThe ratter of jeets?Any rat news?
>>580041682weapon pack never ever, get another shitty map
>>580041884>another shitty map>said Poxjeet while cryingKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO>g-guys all maps are the same and reuse setpieces so we can make them faster>makes no new maps like a total SwedeKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>580042137brown
>>580042190Swedes? Yeah at this point they are mostly brown.
>>580038195>Arby grenade is not that powerfulNot him, but it is. You can stunlock bosses with it because you get 5 of them.Also it staggers entire hordes of armor.
>>580035201>A lot of ogryns somehow aren't useful in meleeBecause ogryn melee sucks ass, only decent melee weapon that does good damage the class has is pickaxe.Paul exists but it is entirely being carried by skullcrusher. Once skullcrusher gets neutered ogryn has nothing, and I say this because there has been rumors coming down the grapevine from playtesters that devs are thinking about nerfing skullcrusher.
>ogryn melee sucks assI love how every fucking Darktide community is always so confidently wrong when it comes to the most retarded shit
>>580042712What you're saying is in direct counter to plenty of good ogryns that exist, that actually do useful things.It's just that most ogryns are absolutely horrendous players. Well, most players are in general.
>rageschizo is up>ratjeet is upOkay, see you guys tomorrow
>>580043071
>>579921451They need to stop with one tit motif.
>>580042712>Paul exists but it is entirely being carried by skullcrusherand not the fact that it is a weapon that creates a high damage (very good) infinite cleave aoe (VERY good) on a short cooldown with no other resource cost (very good) and you can literally make craters in mixed hordes every couple of seconds without any melee talents cuz of it, skullcrusher only amplifies how retarded it is
>>580041682They delayed the weapon pack twice, and we're close to the yearly map release.My educated guess would be that they will delay the weapon pack again and still release the new map.My 2nd educated guess would be that they don't want another scenario where the new weapons are comically p2w, so they are taking their fat time to make sure they are balanced and well rounded.But then again Fatshark is still Fatshark, so only time will tell.
>>580041134He basically got what he wanted.We can't go a single general without someone accusing someone else of being the ratjeet and of samefagging the entire thread up.Dare I say that he wonned. Fair and square.
>ratjeet actually thinks he's tricking peopleWe aren't 80 year old women, we don't fall for indian scams
Talk about games, faggots
>people actually think he's tricking ratjeetWe aren't scams, we fall for 80 year old women
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>580044957>indian humor
>>580045000WAKE UP
>>580044439>>580041884>weapon packWhat would we even get? Like a new mace, a whip? Call me stupid but don't we have most of the medieval weaponry in the game already?
>>580044883He wonned, sister.Time to concede.
>>580045042No we're missing a few from the Empire arsenal.I still think the unique claymore weapon in the River Reik mission is a hint for a new weapon.
>>580045042A big rubber dildo
>>580044883I mean he does since I can just shitpost like a retard and get called a ratjeet before I can even samefag a reply calling myself ratjeet.
>>580045141>the temptation to falseflag as the ratjeet furfag with some degen keri x rat shitLord, deliver me from this evil
>>580045797You should be beaten with rubber dildoes
>>580045140>few from the Empire arsenal.Yeah I guess I didn't think about the ranged arsenalhoming pigeons when
>page 10we NEED the ratjeet
>>580051154Buy AFE2 and start discussing it.
Dude I just get shithoused playing anything but skitarii now, that class is like 5 crutches in a trenchcoat and I'm ruined
>>580054995Wait until you hear about the arbites
>>580055184
Buff arbites
>>580045863i remember that weapon kek>>580045000make sure you win cutie
>>580045042All of the cool Fantasy specific stuff they could put in Fatshark is too lazy to add so not much>>580041884Truth
Buff ogryn in your area
>Quickplay>Lights OutI fucking beg you fatshart, either give everyone a flashlight by default during this shit, give us flashlights on all guns that currently have useless dogshit melee attack nobody uses on alt fire OR just let me disable lights out from quickplay.Who the fuck enjoys "my first Unity horror project" lighting without even getting a flashlight?
>>580061883Anon you can't just post something like that, it's not even spooky month!
I'm starting to understand why people use Spidey sense for Havoc 40
>>580061883Darktide would be saved if we had skeleton enemies
>>580061883I don't have much problem with Lights out, except when the director decides to spawn armor pack and typical Crushers make zero audio. Even worse when your ability is on cd and have zero nade because everything has just spent on boss not long before.
>Plasma Mk.3 splash damage does the same whether it consumes the full amount of ammo from a charge shot or only 1 (because that's all that's in your magazine)I wonder if this has tech applications with the ammo regen talent that anyone would give a shit about.
>H40 run going well despite some hiccups>Suddenly wipe at the last part of power matrix when a slightly unfortunate situation escalates into a catastrophe>Run went well nonetheless so figure we can get it on another try >Play like absolute fucking dogshit and we wipe 5 minutes in I should really take a break between runs.
>>580043753You prefer two full androgynous titties in your face? I guess that’s fair…
Is it worth taking both hypercritical and hyperviolence even if when your critrate is high enough hypercrit essentially cancels out hyperviolence? I don't really need the spare point that much but I guess I could use an extra rocket or something.
>>580065463>Is it worth taking both hypercritical and hyperviolence ... hypercrit essentially cancels out hyperviolence?I feel like you've answered your own question here.
>>580065463You only take one or the other.
>>580065592>>580065614OK, which do you prefer then?
>>580065931uhhh whichever one is in the section of the skill tree you're building for
>>580065931I wasn't really a fan of hypercritical, it can cuck you out of other on-kill effects like blinder regeneration stacks. If you want a test though, those are a good way to tell how many hyper-crit kills you're getting on average, you can empty your blinders in the psykhanium and then compare how many stacks you should get back vs how many you actually get back, missing stacks means hyper-crit got the kill. I forget the numbers I got back but I was unimpressed with it.
>>580065463Hypercritical is good for clearing hordes but is less useful against armored elites, in all other cases take Hyperviolence. Honestly they should both be mutually exclusive sub-keystones like the zealot has since Hypercritical cancels Hyperviolence out, there's a lot of scum players out there who take both thinking they stack.
>>580061883>>580062563Boneclick when?
>>580071345Would the gimmick be the skeletons can combine their bones to create procedurally generated enemies?
>>580071345>>580071979What would the specialists be?
Anyone wants to do a few rounds of Vermintide 2 with me? Or even Chaos Wastes?EUmy friend code: 3842(two)383
>>580042339Yes, that totally aligns with the anon's desire for blitzes to be limited but powerful resources....a tool to stagger bosses occasionally. Amazing
>>580077518>you can ledge the fuckers off the map>not powerfulShit, with 6/8 grenades you can push that motherfucker back to the Valkyrie
>>580071979>>580071345>>580074682You’re thinking of these guys and it’s one reason I honestly wouldn’t mind an AoStide
>>580078854I don't know anything about AoS except that people hated it when it happened. These bone boys look like they'd make a sick tide faction though.
>>580080971It was shit, killed Fantasy, Fantasy ended in a super shitty way, the weird ass DnD astral planes setting confused people, for some reason Slaneesh got shafted for the fucking Horned Rat in the Chaos Pantheon and the poster faction of it were the fucking Sigmarines.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MzNpMD1K8Anyway it apparently improved, personally I think that some factions like the underwater Elves, skellies posted by the other Anon and flying steampunk Dwarfs are pretty neat, but the setting itself will never rid itself of the stink and bad reputation around it. At least until Sigmartide or Total War: Age of Sigmar comes out
>>580080971AoS just lacks coherencyit's basically made fully to appeal to faction sloppers. There is no world or lore other than the bare minimum invented to justify the faction slop
>>580078854AoS is fucking slop and these guys are the worst part about it.>should we make undead skeleton army>nah lets make them fucking bone "golems"AoStide would genuinely fucking flop and basically nobody play it.And since the game is going to be made by Fatshark, it'll be released 3 years too early and practically unplayable dogshit at launch due to horrific performance, and it then takes them 3-4 years to unfuck the game into a state that it should've been at launch.And at launch only thing that is functional is their anti-consumer premium shop, there will be no crafting, you can't buy weapons and the 4 only classes at launch will release with terrible skilltrees with 0 variety.Also on top they will retrace all the same fucking issues as in their previous titles, like dogshit RNG crafting that nobody likes and the devs will drag their feet refusing to fix it for years until they finally cave because the player numbers have plummeted to below 1500 players.
>>580081660slaanesh is back, and horned rat got shoved into the locker again>>580080971the hate was largely overblown by people who didnt even play whfb in the first place, mainly because most people didnt even play whfb, because the game was kinda bad to play; it gouged the fuck out you way worse than 40k, but you need like a minimum of $800 in 2010 dollars to play whfb on the lowest legal point limit and balance was generally terrible
>>580081975AoS sucks because it is soulless dogshit made based on corporate mandates and a diversity checklist instead of the creative team, like artists and sculptors.
>>580082649>And since the game is going to be made by Fatshark, it'll be released 3 years too early and practically unplayable dogshit at launch due to horrific performance, and it then takes them 3-4 years to unfuck the game into a state that it should've been at launch.>And at launch only thing that is functional is their anti-consumer premium shop, there will be no crafting, you can't buy weapons and the 4 only classes at launch will release with terrible skilltrees with 0 variety.>Also on top they will retrace all the same fucking issues as in their previous titles, like dogshit RNG crafting that nobody likes and the devs will drag their feet refusing to fix it for years until they finally cave because the player numbers have plummeted to below 1500 players.Well yes but that applies to literally whatever their next game is going to be
>>580082649>Also on top they will retrace all the same fucking issues as in their previous titles, like dogshit RNG crafting that nobody likes and the devs will drag their feet refusing to fix it for yearslol I was ready to get mad halfway through reading your post and mention this, then I read the rest of your post and yeah.You are spot-on.
AoS is really bad as a setting for video games but really good as a setting for the tabletop so if you're a tabletop player you can go >hurr secondaries hate itand if you're a video game player you can go >hurr funkopop enjoyers love it
>>580082969>Slaanesh is backI'm aware, but I'm just saying how it was initially.>>580083030You can't seriously say that a lot of AoS models aren't creative. They honestly shit on 90% of stuff 40k has been getting for the past decade. I can concede Sigmarines and Lumineth being rather boring, Ossiarch bonereapers being so-so, but the rest is decent to good.
>>580083438its more like the opposite, aos lends itself better to nonsense of video games rather than the structure of tabletop. vt2 is you running around through magic shadow portals to get to locations and get out, thats kinda dumb for a relatively narrative driven setting where magic is pretty dangerous
>>580082649They are an undead skeleton army though. They just do what >>580071979 says for extra flavor and I think that’s pretty cool. They’re also actually trained fighters rather than just fodder.
>>580083475>You can't seriously say that a lot of AoS models aren't creative."creativity" means fucking nothing when end result 90% of the time is just soulless DEI diversity shit.
>>580081660The launch was super badly handled>okay so WHFB is no longer a thing>but here's a new setting to replace it>btw your 5000 point army is now irrelevant, buy our new figures you stupid cattleIt felt like a sock in the jaw for people who'd been collecting fantasy models for years, or even decades. I know WHFB was supposedly unprofitable, but GW probably could have handled the transition to AoS a bit better. I don't know how, but personally, I ended up selling my entire collection of fantasy models, including many rare vintage models and never looking back. I guess they learned their lesson when they later introduced Primaris Marines for 40k, and explicitly stated that the old Marine models were still tournament legal.
>>580084090>>btw your 5000 point army is now irrelevant, buy our new figures you stupid cattleBut this is literally GW's business model. Retards with severe enough autism to make extremely ill-informed financial decisions are their literal target audience. Only actual real life cattle, and people with more money than sense, make up a vast majority of their customer base, regardless of the setting. The fact that I can think of more than a handful of GW enjoyers that I personally know, who will complain about financial issues, and then soi out over the next $200 model release, is downright ghastly. Most of them cripplingly autistic, of course.
>>580084442i dont think you understand what hobbies are
>>580083790>vt2 is you running around through magic shadow portals to get to locations and get out,in VT1 you literally extracted via carriagebut also it's implied the U5 walk to these places or otherwise reach them, the shadow gate is just a video gamey exist point that keeps you safe for gameplay reasons
>>580084521>literally can't afford rent>spends three figures on some gay little funko popI don't think you understand what financial responsibility is.
Any good Darktide mod recs that I won't find one the first couple pages on nexusmods?
>>580084521nta but you seem retarded, it being a hobby doesn't justify poor financial decisions. I have a relative who has a lot of money and his hobby is collecting expensive sports cars. Good for him, but do you think that's a clever hobby to have if you can't afford it?
>>580084442That's not the point I was making. The point is that people were still able to field vintage models made decades ago because they all used the same types of square base, and then comes AoS and suddenly none of even the most recent fantasy models can be fielded even if you wanted to, because AoS uses round bases. That pissed off a ton of long-time players.
>>580085193Oh, and I'm not the other guy who replied. I wouldn't justify spending rent money on models.
>>580084059How the fuck are the recent AoS releases DEI diversity shit? Are you seriously so far up in the culture war /pol/nigger brainrot you see this and go OOOOOOOOO MY DEI SAVE ME NIGGERMAN? Fucking 40k gets more nigger models than AoS. 90% of AoS factions CAN'T even get them.
>>580084617you fail to understand that hobbies are for autists, autists are not good with money, look at tcgs with rotations>>580084847just because you can doesnt mean you should, you buying cars that youre never going to use other than to fill to space is a poor financial decision
>>580084521Having a hobby doesn't mean you should spend money that you clearly do not have.Soi pogging everytime some megacorp releases some new slop also isn't a hobby, it's just you being unironic goycattle.
>>580085709>How the fuck are the recent AoS releases DEI diversity shit?Newest models have female ogres, a faction that previously all male and only male.Also GW made it a big deal pointing out how many of the ogres were women.It's slop.
>>580084781All of this
>>580085974Custodes aren't ogres bro.
>>580086041No fingerless gloves meter/10
I need, NEED that Zola sloppy toppy ong famalam no capshits gotta be bussin
>>580084781https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/872https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/887https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/663https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1118https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1026https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1195https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/827https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/947https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/944https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1119https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1057https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1068 (instead of installing 3 different mods for these features)https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/988 (better version of FullAuto)https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/504
>>580081660>but the setting itself will never rid itself of the stink and bad reputation around itDespite that though, it’s apparently doing really well on the table top, so it’s clearly not something insurmountable at this point if you can make it look attractive enough. >>580081975> There is no world or lore other than the bare minimum invented to justify the faction slopIt used to be like that, but these days stuff like CoS have been getting pretty fleshed out, there’s still a ways to go before it’s on par with old Fantasy but that’s only natural when the latter had decades to expand on and explain its world.
>>580085736>you fail to understand that hobbies are for autists,I'm guessing you are also severely autistic yourself since you can't seem to get the most basic concepts through your foot-thick skull.It's totally possible to have utilitarian hobbies that anyone can understand and enjoy, such as cooking. You can be a hobby cook without spending gorillions of dollars on your hobby, too.It's also possible to be financially responsible about your hobby. If you have the money, cool, do with it what you want, but it's genuinely fucking financially retarded to spend money on a boys' Barbie doll when you already can't afford rent. That takes some serious consoomer brain.
>>580084575thats kind of the point, shadow gates are video game nonsense stuff thats really hard to justify in the world, whereas you can do that in aos with very little issue because of how much magic there is
>>580086635Tabletop in general is niche as fuck. All normies who could be even remotely interested in anything AoS related will most likely smell the stink and promptly fuck off. Not to mention new fantasyfags and 40kfags won't touch AoS with a ten-foot pole.
NMRIH 2 worth full price (30$ usd)? or should i wait for a sale
>>580086986Shadow wizards are just simply built different as per Thanquol novels. Also I might be imagining stuff but wasn't it established that Olesya was piggybacking on old Elvish shit for shadow gates?>>580087736I'd wait
>>580087736Wait for a sale. Or when the next update comes out and if the new content added is substantial enough.
>>580087893shadow wizards are cia glowies
>>580087101I don’t see why. There’s nothing in there they haven’t already been desensitized to and there’s cool novel concepts they aren’t familiar with that could reel them in. There’s also been a surprising amount of overlap between fans of all 3 settings but that’s just my personal experience.
Horus Heresy "books" are fucking soi, gay and cringe.Every single one reads like a 14-year-old’s first attempt at writing, they are pure slop for their autistic manchild consumer base.Talk about the goddamn game you faggots
Just got carried through Havoc 40
>>580089381Needs more buzzwords
>>580087893>Also I might be imagining stuff but wasn't it established that Olesya was piggybacking on old Elvish shit for shadow gates?That's at least heavily implied in the Athel Yenlui mission briefing.
Damn this rashad looks nice, I have the same model but different paintjobI wish they didn't charge me double for a recolor
Literally why can't every gun in the game be as smooth to aim as the revolvers?I want to vomit every time i pull the trigger on the bolt pistol and it misaligns even tho i'm ADS'ing.
>>580087736you can get a key for about 33% cheaper but no refunds, I've got about 60 hours worth of gameplay out of it so far.
>>580091785Because Sw*des can't or don't play their own game, they hipfire every gun and exclusively make light attacks with heavy attacking weapons that have (had, at the time) stunlock specials. Video extremely related.Just download a mod that offsets the view model and then another that forces a crosshair while ADSing.
>>580092830those are map artists btwFatshark devs are retarded but using easily disproven evidence like that will lead people to believe the opposite
>>580093042Irrelevant what branch they work in, the devs still talk to each other. They can and will meet in the designated dog petting area in their office that they spend 4 hours of every workday in, and talk about how retarded the community feedback about the dueling sword is, because their own experiences do not reflect it being overpowered, as seen in the video.
>>580093237>They can and will meet in the designated dog petting area in their office that they spend 4 hours of every workday inIs having one of those mandated by the state or something?Arrowhead and Dice have an area like that too.
>>580093750No idea, but after their "Barktide" blog post, during a time where the community expected actual fucking content, even the forum faggots were harsh in their criticism against fatshark.>“For references, I’ve been looking at A LOT of dog videos, and we’ve been quite lucky to have several dogs in the office that I have been recording for reference data. Sadly I haven’t done any mocap for the dog, but they’ve been good actors for videos, hehe.” ~ Olliverhttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-the-cyber-mastiff-dev-blog/108442https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/barktide-the-pets-of-fatshark/112426
>>580093969cosy officegreat lighting
>>580086504>https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1057FFFFAAAAAAGGOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTT
>>580091785It shoots straight. Once you learn to trust your intuition you won't care about the sights any more. Pretty sure re-ADSing also helps reset the sights if you really need them.
>>580094527I don't even play psyker btw. I use it for the plasma gun
>>580094638It shoots straight the first time but after the initial shot the sight wobbles slightly to the left/right, assumedly because fatfuck has the idle ADS counter still running in the background.It will never perfectly realign back to the center after.
Vostroyan rippergun...
>>580091785I don't know if this is an issue on my end, but on a lot of guns I can score headshots more reliably if I aim slightly below the head. Like with the bolt pistol, I usually aim at the chin, or even the throat, and that seems to work a lot better than trying to actually aim at the head. This is of course total bullshit, because in a lot of games with zombies, a "headshot" only counts as one if you hit the part of the head where the brain is.
blaze force sword or blaze force greatsword? I feel so clunky with the greatsword, but that may be because its not max power so I don't have 3 dodges yet.
>>580092830I don't think that vid's even that bad. Dude was running FotF and got cornered by 3 crushers. There's not much the guy can do other than try to cut through the chaff with light spam and re-position.
>>580095994This was before the rework>special stab each crusher once>they're now all stunlocked>stop being a retard and throw in a push>position away from the drop>suddenly he's fineIt wasn't a DPS check, it was a "do you acknowledge the special exists" check, which parses "no" for most retards, including this faggot.Post rework can now just spam the special in scenarios like these and parry every overhead lmao.>>580095895Does your ranged slot clear hordes good?>yesRegular force sword. If you're soulblazemaxxing, also take the strength blessing on elite kill, it makes for a deadly stat stick while shit is on fire. Keep in mind that the perks (+25% unyielding, etc.) apply to your DoTs while holding the weapon.>noGreatsword.If you're doing a dedicated melee build, still greatsword, unless you're cheating with animation cancels.
>>580091785I have noticed that the bolt pistol especially has a really small projectile hitbox.It feels the pre-buff lasgun now that i think about it, the Lasgun projectile would just go straight through enemy heads sometimes.
>>580096471>I have noticed that the bolt pistol especially has a really small projectile hitbox.Bolt pistol enjoyer here.I'm pretty sure the hitbox isn't the problem, it's more that it has some weirdly large spread on follow-up shots. You really have to wait for the thing to settle again before you can accurately hit the target. It also gets completely annihilated by suppression, so classes that can't ignore it get doubly punished for shooting more than once. It's part of what makes the combat shotgun a viable sidegrade, because it doesn't suffer nearly as much from this; slug is accurate on the first shot, regular buckshot doesn't give a fuck about suppression.
>>580096672>It also gets completely annihilated by suppressionI'm gonna be honest here famalam.I completely forgot that mechanic was even in the game.
Give ogryn heavy bolter in the next update
>>580051307She really is too much a bullet sponge imo, I hate forced phases where you have to kill trash mobs while the boss runs away.
>>580098874Yeah it's a pretty lame fight
>>580098874ugh...
Give ogryn a fat, heavy, juicy cock (and balls) in the next update
Any NMRIH2 gamers still enjoying the game?
>>580102137I just got out of a game. I put ~55 hours into it within a couple week period, but now I'm kind of tired of it for the moment. This was the first game I'd played of it in days.
Does this actually have grimoires or is this a visual bug?
>>580103041I've never seen any scriptures or grimoires in either of the operations missions so I think it's a UI bug.
>>580102468That's not bad. I only got 100h out of Darktide.
>>580103041>or is this a visual bug?Go into the mission and check whether you have the side objective.Even if it doesn't show the side objective, this doesn't strictly have to be a visual bug, it could be a bug in how whatever mission engine generates the missions.>picrelYeah. It's a bug on fatshark's side, as per https://otwako.github.io/darktide-mission/Bravo Sw*den!
>>580105312>23 maps totallollmaorofl even
I don't think i'm gamer enough to make psyker work without defaulting to shield+inferno staff
>>580106540that's how I feel about scryers fgs
>>580106678>fgsBUCKBROKENSCATTEREDHUNTEDDEFEATED
>>580102468Why is that? Not enough content or gameplay has gotten stale?
>>580106540Don't beat yourself up over it, psyker can be pretty hard especially when you're new. Lower the difficulty and play different builds more until you get the hang of it. Try staff leftclick. Try ground pound as a reason to learn the knife heavy sprint attack -> slide -> swap and charge your staff movetech, it's pretty APM intensive but becomes second nature once you've played it enough.If you struggle surviving, try taking more toughness regen skills, consider health curios, and take Just a Dream. Gives you a bigger buffer against fucking up.If you blow yourself up regularly, first and foremost, git gud, but also don't be afraid to slot +1 wound and maybe even Crystalline Will. This is bad btw, and you should wean yourself off it ASAP, but it's fine to do this if you're new and would not be able to play and enjoy psyker without it. But do git gud.
>>580023024>>579928925What’s Lucius’ deal anyway? Is he just like a really skilled swordsman?
>>580107730>>580106678I mean most other classes I can run around and be fine with on auric (ogryn, scum, vet, skit, not zealot yet but that seems a no brainer) but psyker I'm just kissing the ground constantly. Might be because none of my weapons are max ranked yet aside from combat knife and revolver, and it feels like the greatsword isn't doing enough damage fast enough to ragers. This might be another case of I forgot to take the toughness damage reduction node like an idiot again
>>580104917I got a ton out of Darktide, like 1200-1300, but that's very much an outlier, especially for coop games.>>580107326I played a lot in a short period of time, and now I want a break. That's pretty normal for me, and anything that doesn't give me a bit of burnout after 40-50 hours within a week or two is more of an exception.I still enjoy it, but VT/DT have a lot of replayability thanks to how intense and variable the combat gets in higher difficulties. Combat is more secondary in NMRIH, and it revolves more around managing space, stamina, and progress. It's not a deeply intense, fast paced game where you're constantly finding the optimal way to manage a situation in real time, so while it's fun to play, and the combat is satisfying, it doesn't have that element to keep me hooked. The combat is still good, and it's still fun to play, but that addictive element isn't really there.
>>580108489Try making heavy attacks and building predominantly into crit + finesse, so Gaze + DD. It can fucking annihilate crushers, so ragers shouldn't be a problem. Alternatively, bring an adequate staff. You can just throw ragers around with the ground pound staff.Learn when to run away. Backdodge and initiate a slide to slide backwards to gain distance from ragers. Or just block push them. With Kinetic Deflection you should have more than enough resources to block their attacks, and then force push them to knock them on their ass.
>>580108335thats really about it, and if anybody kills him, they turn into lucius
Where is the foolish ratposters?
>unknown enemywhere does this play?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxzkcu2ACBo
>>580111817Hope it playin in my bootyhole
>>580102137Every single day, if only for a few games, and likely will continue to unless circumstance denies me or they powercreep the fuck out of everything.
>>580111817>posted 11 days agoI don't think it's in the game yet.
so it's pretty much confirmed now that if poxclick gets a new enemy faction, it will be tzeentch because they can just reskin the beastmen from rataclickright?
>>580115001No.
>>580115031
>>580115001It'd be genestealers I imagine, just because there is a tiny hint or two pointing at them being on Atoma. I don't think there's anything at all that points to Tzeentch
>>580115001>>580115162I know what you are
>>580111817>>580114896Sounds like expeditions music.
>>580099124Honestly given how much engineer shit is in the game, I hope if they do DLC they'll have a Space Jockey fight
>>580115851>RATJEET RATJEET!!!obsessed
>>580115162You gotta eat ALL the eggs before you leave.
>>580116625meant for >>580115471
>>580116740Not what I meant dummy but nice work exposing yourself
>>580115471Yeah i'm trans so what?
>one post every 40 minutes'eepy 'read
>>580119876WAKE UP! WE'RE DOING 40s WITH 400 WEAPONS AND 25 TALENT POINTS!
is grounded /coopg/
>>580121627You're gonna get your booty grounded to dust if you start posting about a children's video game in the big boy general
>>580122095calm down retard.
>>580115851it might really be, theres other unused songs and they might be for expedition as well
>>580010715UpdateStill haven't completed theseI even got 10 missions in a row without going down while trying to get the fucking Ogryn charge Send help
>>580010715>knock 7 enemies off a ledge in 10 sec as psykerNo Man's Land>knock 60 enemies with a single charge as ogryn Also No Man's Land
>>580123451I'm Zen like the Buddha, but i'll go full mohammed on your ass if you start bringing grounded posting to my general
Every single fucking day.
>>580125898That's crazy. I'm a tall, white, jacked and blue eyed indian?
>>580125898At this point it would be acceptable to nuke all submarine network cables and fire anti-sat missiles at telecomm satellites. Just end it all, square one, start again.
>>580125898
>>580124083how/where? Just unlocked it to go and try it there
>>580127570theres areas where its nothing but straight ledges, leading up to the midway point of the mapits like on buildings and shit its hard to miss dw
>>580124083This bridge. On auric, there are always a waterfall on the other side + shitload of ambient enemies. You can reliably knock enemies on the bridge over either side, and jsut let them build up some number then charge across with ogryn.
>>580128659>extra wound on an arbitesYikes
Got my Zealot to level 20 today but it's not that fun so far. Give me the FUN build.
I replied to my own post, fuck my higger life>>580128815Not my screenshot, shopclicker
>>580128904Tell the screenshotter i said yikes
>>580127570>>580124083>>580128620>>580128659Never mind immediately got Ogryn charge first try on No Man's Land after failing at it for 3 days straight
>>580128835https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0d30337-6e26-42c1-a136-9935f53e6af9/fatmangus-zealot-charge-versionhttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0d300f6-9d15-4766-bab5-76122e9477f7/fatmangus-zealot-stealth-version
>>580128835Zealots aren't supposed to be fun, they're supposed to enable other players to have fun
>>580128835You're not having fun because shit isn't dying. Make shit die with relic blade + Martyrdom.>>580129298I think IJ is too much of a noob trap with the relic blade. It encourages spamming light attacks too much, reaching heat lockout within seconds. Granted Martyrdom does it too.Don't spam light attacks with the relic blade. Learn the heavy attack strings, they have less upfront DPS but better sustain. Also learn to swap away from (and back to) your melee to turn it off instead of pressing the button, and do so frequently, even if you only gain -10% heat between packs.
>>580129551>I think IJ is too much of a noob trap with the relic bladeit gives dodge distance, speed, and refresh rate, the attack speed is especially nice on the stealth version since you have none otherwise but the dodge stuff is the reason you take it especially with a weapon like relic blade
>>580129681 (me)not to mention its pretty low investment considering the core of this build cant run martyrdom too, get like 60% of martyrdom but with less curio and talent investment and you have way better dodges is a pretty sweet deal
>>580123451>>580122095>>580121627I’ve never heard of this looks strange
>>580129681Anon, listing what a thing does as if nobody knows doesn't reinforce your argument, you can stop doing that every time someone says something you disagree with. The dodge stats are so underwhelming they're barely felt, and the attack speed has no synergy with the relic blade what wants to make heavy attacks, which only marginally benefit from attack speed. The relic blade is fucking awesome with exactly 0 attack speed and you shouldn't need more because your DPS is always gated by your heat gauge, not how many attacks you can make.>>580129835>its pretty low investmentThis is the best argument in favor of IJ, because picking up all the movement speed on the way there is pretty natural, so you end up going fast as fuck with an otherwise slow weapon. Unfortunately fatmangus for some retarded reason suggests to bring a bolter instead of something that can actually run fast. Imagine how fast you would zoom if you used a light secondary, like bolt pistol, combat shotgun, or las pistol.
>>580084059>>580083030You're over-exaggerating that side of it, it definitely suffers from it no doubt but at this point it isn't very, if any, worse than the stuff 40k or TOW is getting, the models are arguably of a higher quality when they aren't leaning into that garbage too>>580085974Female ogres were always implied to exist technically they just had no models like female Ogryns
>>580129298I'll give the fatman a try.
>>580129298>Wrath and OverloadDoesn't Relic Blade have Rampage available to it? Why would you ever take Wrath over that?
>>580130067>Female ogres were always implied to exist technicallyI never liked this argument. Technically nothing prevents a transgender space marine either. I don't think they're about to get one but surely you get the point of stylization & thematics vs "could technically be depicted"
>>580131014Retarded contrarianism is the entire basis of that build. The health build just happens to coincidentally be really strong, that is the only thing that makes this build unique and remotely good.The only correct blessings are Rampage (as you already pointed out) and Cranial, which is the singular best heat blessing available to the sword. Cleave only ever does anything on the RB if you are retarded enough to make unpowered attacks, which only happens if you spam light attacks with a ton of attack speed, etc. see >>580129984
>>580129984>Unfortunately fatmangus for some retarded reason suggests to bring a bolter instead of something that can actually run fastgameslantern makes you pick a weapon for both slots, there really should be a blank option>listing what a thing does as if nobody knows doesn't reinforce your argumentit is a fatshark game, never says it anywhere so theres a lot of people who dont know about that. the dodge stats are also additive, so it brings relic blade up to the mobility of a midrange weapon in terms of distance, and better in terms of dodge speed. the refresh rate is probably the most impactful part too, spamming those boosted dodges way more often. im honestly convinced you havent played around with it a lot because underwhelming isnt a way id describe it for a weapon like relic blade at all, maybe less noticeable on the faster weapons (or too much, rather) in which case i do highly recommend it, i find it much less enjoyable to play rb without those dodgesyoure also really hyperfixated on attack speed as if thats what the entire thing is for, like some attack speed is nice if for nothing more than comfort, and the mk2 relic blade does weave in plenty of lights into its combos so its not completely diminished by heavy usage, on the stealth version IJ is pretty much the only source of it but its also there for those dodge buffs and just flat damage cuz like, its right there already and thats quite a bit of value for just 2 points>>580131014havoc hitmass increases, they go up to nearly 4x depending on enemy
>>580129681ATK speed in JI is there to help explosive Bolter version fire rate, not relic blade. So even in Fotf version, take off melee atk speed node and take the other modifier for Foft as well. Master retribution should be replaced with Against all odds as well.
>>580131225we had that really old model back when they used lead
>>580131314if you care about active uptime, overload is the best option for that since it overrides the slow burn at the high end of the heat gauge resulting in higher total time compared to cranial active vs inactive, i didnt believe it till i tried it myself, so its more picking between 2nd best heat blessing plus some weakspot damage or best heat blessing with a niche knockback instead of damage, the latter just fits into the fat fuck no care build betterand if you dont take wrath into havoc youre likely to want to kill yourself cuz they thought poxwalkers with more hitmass than most elites was a good idea
>>580131385>im honestly convinced you havent played around withI've played plenty of IJ and the difference in damage output is far more noticeable than the gains in mobility. I'm used to running RB with exactly zero attack speed as well. Getting better dodges and general mobility is unnecessary because the thing has the range of a spear. Abusing its range more than makes up for the mobility as long as you actually attack shit at the edge of your range.>the mk2 relic blade does weave in plenty of lights into its combosYes, don't do that. Don't make light attacks with the relic blade on a build that can't even buy space with chorus. Use the other marks and make heavy attacks to actually make use of your heat gauge better. The only reason to make light attacks, is to make the stab attack between heavies, or to initiate a heavy horizontal after a push attack (push -> light -> loop heavies).>havoc hitmass increasesAnd yet the relic blade cleaves more than adequately, and cleave does not work the way that retards want it to work. Hitting +4 additional poxwalkers for 1/8 of its health does nothing useful. If you want to stagger them, just push.
>>580131716>if you care about active uptime, overload is the best optionNo it isn't. Overload requires that you reach lockout. You should always manually disable the charged mode between packs, so what matters is extending the duration of your heat gauge. Yes, I have tried that. Yes, I have even done autistic math on it. Retardedly locking yourself out is a HORRIBLE thing to do.>if you dont take wrath into havoc youre likely to want to kill yourself Stop theorycraftsissying and pretending that you play havoc. I have no trouble decapitating large hordes with just Rampage, what the fuck are you waffling on about? Horde clear is NEVER what the relic blade struggles with, it needs single target damage to remove crushers in a timely fashion.
God I wish they'd just make cleave good so we could stop having this argument every other day
START A NEW THREAD, WAZZOCKS
>>580131716>if you dont take wrath into havoc youre likely to want to kill yourselfMaybe true if you're just using light attacks
>>580132158What if we just fucking curbstomped the lowercasetard so he stops spouting the most retarded takes imaginable every time he enters the general?
>>580131927>it needs single target damage to remove crushers in a timely fashion.Wut? I'm running the same setup as that anon and it oneshots crushers
>>580132228The best i can do is rape him. I'm a lover, not a fighter
>>580132290Havoc spawns more crushers than stealth can remove. You kill one and then you're sitting there uselessly memeing with your dogshit cleave blessing.
>>580132228Since we're schizo personality posting, what do we call the guy who accuses the other person of being "lowercasefag" or "ratjeet" every time his opinion is challenged?
>>580132438You call him Daddy
>>580131725>Use the other marksno the mk10 is the mark with the moveset equivalent of wearing a strait jacket and feels miserable to use, i like to play weapons that feel good to use>I have no trouble decapitating large hordes with just Rampage, what the fuck are you waffling on about?if you have against the odds sure, the strength and cleave working together gets you enough to be comfortable but in this build we're talking about specifically, against the odds isnt what we're taking because its point-heavy in other areas>Horde clear is NEVER what the relic blade struggles with, it needs single target damage to remove crushers in a timely fashionthen wouldnt you be advocating for something like energy leakage in this case over rampage? honest question because both wrath and rampage are horde leaning
>>580132438>retard makes all lowercase posts with the most retarded opinion imaginable>schizo schizo! you're schizo!If you can't be bothered to even type right, that's a mining canary for having retarded opinions. Do you trust the mental faculties of some flat-earth retard? Didn't think so.
>>580132398The average Havoc 40 mission spawns like 13 crushers now dude. When's the last time you played? >Crushers could be hereis seriously making a comeback lately
>>580129053Good, good. Now you don't have to force yourself to play charge anymore
>>580132568tanner and his consequences on the perspective of the sandbox have been a disasterremember when he just looked at scum without playing it and said they were dogshit and then only mentioned crushers
>>580132530You really are a capital R retard, huh.>if you have against the odds sure,No, retard. Cleave does not work the way you think it does.>wouldnt you be advocating for something like energy leakage in this case over rampage? ???Turn around and swing into a horde, get the buff up, and then continue stabbing the crusher in his face. >>580132568Yes, and the crusher is also stimmed and glowing red and takes like 1/3 of the damage it's supposed to. The same applies to hyperbuffed ragers and maulers too. Single target damage is extremely important. In fact, I'd even argue that horde clear is somewhat of an afterthought since most lineups just bring a psyker and/or a ranged ogryn.
>>580132290Yeah sure, I played with a stealth zealot yesterday in Gloriana Clandestine. Instead of him doing obj with his stealth. he didnt do anything to kill specials, only to standstill at lever and waiting for others to do button. Game was seeded with scab too, lots of maulers and crushers, unironically Vet was dumping bolter all the times with these armor packs. Unfortunately, Vet was playing a meme build too, but at least he could do something to armors with kark unlike the stealth one.
>>580132716It was understandable for a while but definitely not since the changes a few months ago. It's just crazy to me that people still mention them like this. I had a 40 with 11 crushers the other day. Call it a hunch but I think many people on here don't actually play Darktide anymore and just continue with the same talking points. Not that I can blame them for the first part
>>580132839>Yes, and the crusher is also stimmed and glowing red and takes like 1/3 of the damage it's supposed to. The same applies to hyperbuffed ragers and maulers too. Single target damage is extremely important.Did your programming bug out or something? You think the relic blade with stealth has no single target damage to deal with the 13 crushers that spawn? You'll realistically be soloing every crusher that spawns with the cleave setup, more singletarget doesn't add much.
>>580132852Fucking Borat over here
>>580131385>the mk2 relic bladeHAAHWAAWCall me back when they make the head hitbox prioritization on uppercut moves not retarded. No, I will not adjust my entire point of aim for a single stupid move in a weapon's moveset. It's retarded, annoying, and makes it slightly more difficult to keep track of everything else going on. Shan't be bothering
>>580133017>didn't even read the text he quoted>autistically latches onto crushers when other important examples are literally right there in the greentextJust stop trying to participate in a conversation that's beyond what little mental faculties you possess.
>muh crushers>post crusher spawn nerfLmao this lil nigga got exposed for not actually playing the game. People here are so pathetic
>perfect strike tranny being a fucking retard againLaughing my fucking ass off
>>580132912yeah, like those people talking about havoc all the time, whats there to talk about a ded gaem mode thats been solved
>>580133218Isn't the point of perfect strike to cleave crushers? The guy who keeps whining about crushers has something in common with the perfect strike troon now, they both missed the memo that there's barely any of them ingame anymore
>>580133441The point of perfect strike is hitting targets next to a bulwark that's in your face, and not being limited into crouching and cutting off the toes of a mixed pack of scab ragers + maulers.
>>580133441scab ragers have carapace torso and maulers are carapace head
>>580133441It also ignores 75% of enemy hitmass on top of that, so its an effective 4x cleave multiplicitive with the cleave statIs it worth running for that specifically? Not really but its cool
>>580132839>No, retard. Cleave does not work the way you think it does.then explain to me how cleave works if i clearly dont understandcuz last i checked, and activated rb sweep with 10.5 would go to 15.75 cleave with the +50% cleave, and rampage with 36% strength would bump that up to 21.42, now youve doubled your cleave and youre now going from hitting 3 moebians to 6 or 7 in h40. pretty important considering relic blade when activated has a pretty good cleave damage profile so it actually makes a difference, with an example of one that it doesnt make a difference on being thunderhammer with a fuckass amount of cleave innately, like 16 or something on the heavy sweeps but stops dealing any damage worth anything past the 2nd enemy which is why it sucks ass at hordesand thank god, i know what lobbies to avoid so i still have a game left to play am i right or am i right
>>580134435>he thinks cleave increases your damageYeah okay. I'm not even going to bother explaining, you're either trolling or legitimately retarded enough that you have a wrangler for your daily life.
>>580134564>didnt read the post awardi didnt say that anywhere, try again
>>580134659Have fun hitting 7 poxwalkers for 1/8 of their HP nigger
>>580131225Female ogres a pretty logical conclusion though. They have to reproduce somehow and that’s usually the default assumption even in a fantasy setting. Maybe if it’s something like Orks it would be unnecessary or silly.
>>580134742have fun taking 4x longer to kill any amount of enemies with more than 1 digitoh wait you rely on the psyker to play the game for you, my mistake and my condolences get well soon
>>580133043Are you even supposed to use the uppercut? I thought both Relic Blade marks wanted to use the sprint-stab-block-cancel loop on single target enemies?
>>580135606more of a pick what you wanna do given the situationthe sprint stabs are better dps but easier to mess up and you deliberately cant dodge dance when doing that so it could be more dangerousthe uppercuts are easier overall to learn vs the stabs cuz you just learn the angle, and they also have enough impact to stagger crushers when activated
>>580135862I'm putting my trust in you since you seem vaguely trustworthy.HOW do I relic blade and which ranged weapon should I pair with it? Even if the choices are obviously rather limited to revolver, bolt pistol, laspistol and shredder(lmao).
>>580135551That's not how cleave works.
Me writing all these havoc 40 Zealot factoids down and then play heresy
>>580136306youre right im exaggerating just to piss you off since you dont care to read what i say when im being serious
>>580134758Yeah no my point isn't that they shouldn't exist, it's that their depiction could take away from the faction. Although we talked about female ogres I don't mind them that much though. I was just saying that "they should logically exist" isn't a good guideline for style and thematics for anything. The argument irks me because as I said, even a transgender space marine COULD exist and it's actually overwhelmingly likely it would exist all things considered. Doesn't mean I'd want it depicted lol
>>580135606That's also gay and annoying
>>580136605Have you tried not being a fucking retard, then?
>>580134435Don't bother, it's the retard who thought relic blades are cleave damage capped at 5 targets. He just gets off on talking out of his ass then having these weird homoerotic shitflinging sessions, I doubt he even plays the game.
>>580136687It's the same fucking retard who puts unstoppable and wrath on the ogryn cleaver. You can tell he has never once looked at a scoreboard
>>580136736Presented with no further context.
>>580136780>>580136687>Havoclets projectingrumaoGo back to your kiddy malice lobbies
>>580136838actually its kinda impressive how you got your damage that lowmine was nowhere near that low on fatmangus which has less damage than the average build
>>580136624except a transgender space marines couldnt exist, because the mindwipe and the hypno training that starts from when theyre a child
>>580136845Weird thing to say after getting completely and utterly schooled
>>580136974It's just the havoc poser/false flagging nigger, and considering the time, plausibly ratjeet. Don't even give him the attention.
>>580136838It's kind of funny that you can't wrap your mind around the fact that this adds up if you do it to 10 poxwalkers every swing that would otherwise take 0 damage because your swing stopped. Like this is actual third worlder level inability to understand real gain you get across dozens of targets because one instance of it is small
>>580136974>Gets proven empirically wrong>NO NO NO I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONGOh I should've known it's ratjeet. You just can't stand to lose any izzat by not having the last word huh? How's the weather in Mumbai?
>>580137068He called you out >>580137029 already. You know we're just going to gang rape you again
>>580137047How come you can't figure out the concept of opportunity cost, and that dedicating an entire blessing slot to dealing marginally more damage to poxwalkers is complete dogshit compared to having an actually useful heat blessing, or the best blessing in the game?If your gameplay weren't the direct equivalent of throating cock, you wouldn't struggle clearing hordes with the best horde clearing weapon available to the class. It doesn't need a cleave blessing. You are just dumb enough to overheat it with light attacks and then can't cleave anything because you're unpowered. Stop pretending.
>>580137143Thanks for confirming you're the ratjeet. Also stop talking about yourself in third person, that's kinda weird in civilized countries.
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>>580136180cant help much for mk10 specifically cuz i just hate the moveset, it does its job but it feels like its super rigid and doesnt flow well but thats very opinionatedif you dont know how to do that block sprint stab thing its way easier to learn via that fatmangus video on youtube from a.aa huge boon i can say from the mk2 at least though is that even if you dont like the uppercut, the overhead heavy chains into an overhead light so you can just do that if you dont like it, and the push attack chains into 2 sweep heavies that continues into that heavy>light loop of sweeps, having all of these options on what to do vs the rigid combos of the mk10 are why i like it more cuz i can change what i do in the momentas for ranged weapons, i mean you have throwing knives and are literally zealot so your gun is just utility at this point, i think revolver and boltpistol overlap with knives in terms of role and laspistols great for mobility, shredder does get overlooked a lot as a "fuck off, stop that" gun, massive suppression and stagger really fast and the fastest inspiring barrage weapon in the game as a panic button (i mean, you werent gonna use it for damage anyway lol). i personally say fuck it no mobility and run the aoe boltgun, cuz it allows me to just create holes in density if i need to be somewhere now, keep a netted person from being hit as i get to them, etc. you have a lot of options since knives kinda deal with specialists and the odd gunner that you want gone. honestly this goes for a lot of zealot weapons but its absolutely the case for rb cuz it doesnt particularly suck at anything you need your ranged to cover
>>580137232>Crushers could be here
>>580136624I think a tranny marine would be good grounds for heresy honestly there’s not much reason for them to indulge in that kind of thing and could even be seen as detrimental if we assume the full 9 yards and have them cut their junk off or something lol
>>580023663No shame in losing to (one of) the best ;)>>580108335One of the four Chaos Champions who are basically Chaos Space Marines that stand head and shoulders above most mortal servants of their respective patron gods. Lucius’ shtick is that he is an absurdly skilled swordsman and duelist and obsessed with being the best ever, he’s top 10~ in the setting more or less, and he was already a beast in a fight before he even fell to Chaos and was just a regular marine. He’s fought and killed some of the deadliest units every faction has to offer like Ork Warbosses, Drukhari Incubi and Archons, other high ranking Space Marine champions (including the Emperor’s Champion of the Black Templars) and has also bested the best duelists other legions had to offer like Sanakht of the Thousand Sons, who’s chances of losing were so infinitesimally slim other marines of the TS literally could couldn’t even foresee a future in which he was defeated in single combat via their precognitive Psyker powers. His main thing is that he can’t be killed by anyone while feeling pride or he’ll possess their bodies shortly after, but this has been upgraded because he can now possess even Necrons so it seems just killing him is enough to trigger it. He also has a barbed whip (the red tentacles in the picture) that’s actually a sentient daemon weapon that can project the pain of anyone it strikes and captures to those in the area, the original sword Fulgrim himself used to wield, and armor with combat drugs imbedded in it that can reduce people to red mist via sonic screams produced by all of the souls of his killers that are also trapped within it. His biggest weakness is that because he’s Slaaneshi associated he’s also overconfident and rarely actually tries in a fight, but even when not trying he can tear apart regular marines (Chaos or otherwise) like nothing.