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>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>579856198
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>>579957897
Spic take
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behead hopoo
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Buff Silver
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>>579957975
Hotpoo gave us Vyper though...
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>>579958585
I'm sensing a pattern here
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Remove the parry key unironically.
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>>579959408
Street fighter is around the corner man
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GOOD MORNING SAAR PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND REDEEM DALITLOCK!
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>>579958585
(You)
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>>579959715
but the most recent version of street fighter does have a parry key
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>>579960531
aura
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Waiting for monkey boy to be good again...
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>>579960531
This is what deadlock needs
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>>579960531
>he is higher rank than me
it's over
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>>579958585
i play heroes in both the top and bottom tiers what does this make me
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>>579961406
Brick
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>>579958585
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>>579962453
>warden
>honest
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>579962510
He's just an M1 carry bro he's really not that bad.
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>>579962453
>Put Warden in dishonest abilities
>Put Mina in 100% dishonest
>Put Holiday in mostly honest
>Put Miku Guinness in dishonest abilities
Fixed
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>>579962756
how is talon D
like if you want to make the argument he relies on having a proper carry and a decent frontline or something sure but the sheer amount of damage he shits out + snare for mid contest shouls make him C tier at worst
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>>579962453
>>579962756
>>579962871
HOW MANY FUCKING TIER LISTS DO WE NEED
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>>579962871
ephemeral knower
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>>579962980
As many as there are ecelebs making "content" for this game.
P.S: Mine is the one that's right because I understand the game better than everyone else, please book a coaching session (link in the description)!
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>>579962756
>wraith is bad in any context
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Any good movement guides?
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>>579963294
Leif but it’s pretty dense
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>>579962756
Why do they even bother posting this shit? Organized comp play is less than 1% of the community and they all know each other anyway, so what's the point of publicly releasing a comp tier list when the general public has no use for it? It just muddies the waters of balance debate for no real benefit.
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>>579963371
And by dense you mean needlessy goes into autistic detail with poor teaching skills?
His videos could be 2x shorter and I don't know if he does this because of autism or because he wants to farm watch time.
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>>579962932
>>579963520
Isn't it just based on pick/win rates for DNS?
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>>579963797
Whatever it’s based on it’s retarded
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>>579962756
Comp is not MM.
Maybe one day /dlg/ will realize this. That day is not today.
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>>579962932
>how is talon D
The player base hasn't learned about his magic carpet build yet.
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Start buying greater expansion on grey talon.
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>>579964325
Why
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>>579963520
Because it's a screenshot from DLNS where they're using the tier list to discuss the current meta
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>>579964194
Even in comp context wraith under Paige makes no sense
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Delete ivy
Delete flog
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Why does Vyper have a 145 damage single target ability at minute 2?
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>>579964481
Yeah but comp meta is pointless to know for the general public. It annoys me that potentially I'll have to listen to some retard trying to tell me Wraith isn't good just because she isn't good in a context that less than 1% of the community will ever experience.
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>>579964927
She is just reskined wraith
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>>579964956
If you're watching DLNS you're watching people play the comp meta
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>>579964956
The whole point is she is good in that context too
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>>579964831
>delete the savior of Deadlock
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>>579965089
Yeah alright fair enough, I guess my real issue is that the community is too dumb to understand context sensitive balance.
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>>579964807
Wraith gets run down by two people.
She gets slowhexed
She folds like paper

Paige gets run down by two people.
She gets slowhexed
She has 2, 3, and 4 if necessary
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>>579964807
never played Paige but echo shard immobilize + Vortex Web + mega embiggening expansion combo + duration seems oppressive
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Start buying Magic Carpet on Celeste
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>>579965231
Yes fuck the savior of spanish harlem or whatever that marble menace calls herself
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>>579965526
You got any other nuggets of wisdom like this? Buying Close Quarters on Abrams maybe? Escalating Exposure on Infernus?
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>marble menace
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>>579964927
'CAUSE SHE'S THE VYPER BAAAAAAAAABY
*dakka dakka dakka*
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>>579965526
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>>579965603
>Yes fuck the savior of spanish harlem
don't mind if I do!
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>>579965643
Buy Glass Cannon on Abrams. And Yamato.
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>>579965818
another dogshit post by a bejitard
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>Holliday has one of the best movement abilities in the game with the downside of having only 2 base stam
>Celeste has the best movement in the game and starts with 4 base stam
You know I'm seeing a real easy nerf idea
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>>579966640
ANON NOOOOO THE PORTAL CODE
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>>579966640
holliday's downside isn't real. she has air control when jump padding
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>>579966758
This. Holliday needs nerfs and Celeste needs buffs.
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>>579966717
The community still wants Doorman's head eventually they'll take his doors away too it doesn't matter.
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>hero is extremely strong
>point this out
>"nah bro JohnnyDLTTV put him in B tier lmaooo are u seeker?"
>2 years later
>"BROOOOO DID YOU SEE JOHNNYDLTTV'S NEW BUILD THIS HERO IS BROOOOKEN"
>devs actually take action
this has been the state of game balance for two years
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why do the more offensive oriented Paige build recommend Extra Spirit/Improved Spirit in the early/mid game? They provide an absolutely miniscule boost to her damage/shielding.

I can understand building up to Boundless once you have a bunch of spirit but unless I'm missing something i don't know why you'd ever bother buying Extra/Improved over any other useful spirit items/before you already have like 100 spirit
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>>579967540
>meta changes after 2 years of balance changes
wooooow
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>>579967540
>point out that hero is mediocre at best
>"um didnt you see this streamer put it in S+ tier? lmao ur bad"
>mediocre hero gets nerfed
>op heroes remain op
I genuinely don't understand why they listen to these retards
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>>579962980
only list that matters
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I played when beta first started, is the game fun now?
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>>579967715
you are the reason why this shit gets a pass btw
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>>579967832
That's a big list
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>>579967832
The flight plan I just filed with the Archmother lists me, my lasso here, but only one of you.
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>>579967559
you know shield gives weapon damage and fire rate on upgrade that scales, right, its the first op part of her hit with the shield. firerate is small but 25% going to 34 is pretty nutty. what do i know, i play paige.
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>>579968046
No
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>>579967540
>implying JohnnyDLTTV isn't influencing the game's balance and direction so he can win an easy 100 bucks on DNS
lol
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>wraith does 2k damage just with cards at endgame (this is with spirit res)
B tier btw maybe even C tier DO NOT PICK - i<3wraithTTV
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i dont mind waiting if it means a more polished complete update
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>>579969426
The literal only person who downplays Wraith is Metro
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>>579969441
Yoshit just told you in his message the delay had no relation to change of scale you are COPING
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>>579969474
if you look at nearly any of these twitchnigger's tier lists they will MAYBE put wraith in A you could count on one hand the streamers who put her in S tier
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>>>i dont mind waiting if it means a more polished complete update
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>>>i dont mind waiting if it means a more polished complete update
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STICKIN 'EM
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>>579967540
That's literally any live-service game now.
If all streamers were to magically disappear no one would suffer and the quality of games would improve overnight.
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Silver is fun
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female fucking ixian WHEN
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>>579965324
>>579965329

retards, ask the same pros playing in this meme comp and they will agree with me. You are rationalizing post hoc
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>>579968758
the weapon damage goes from 25 to 34% and the firerate goes from 14 to 18.6.

you still get 30%/16.7% from suppressor, or basically the same as if you spend 1600 total on upgrading high velocity to opening rounds and then buy mystic reach, etc.
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>>579970350
SILVER IS FUN
SILVER IS WEAK
SILVER IS A BIG HOT MESS
*thumps microphone*

>>579969909
still waiting for a purplish-pinkish goth/punk Ixian girl
she needs a cool gun and a kind of smooth husky voice like Vyper but less prison dyke and more ara ara~
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>>579970797
Only if she has a cock
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>>579969441
>a more polished complete update
erm bro... WE'RE supposed to be the playtesters of this UNRELEASED BETA game STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. did you forget?
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>>579970797
Soon...
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>>579969441
The private testers are making the devs turn the new characters into movement slop skybox flying m1 spirit hybrid dps tanks as we speak.
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Add Glyph of fortification and Scan to Deadlock.
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Bebop is SSSSS+ by far the highest impact character in the entire game.
The only reason he isn't ranked that high is because the game is a playtest and "top players" are just ziggers with good movement and aim and a decent enough macro to increase their own souls count.
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>>579972076
what's next, buybacks too?
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>first game of the day
>retarded teammates, spent more time typing than playing
>just muted all of them
>hext few games
>good teammates
Maybe that anon was right. This game tests you at first by putting you in a lobby with low prio players to see if you're going to be as subhuman as them.
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>>579972279
No, not buybacks hell no.
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>>579972076
Glyph would be useful but scan not so much when vision isn't really a problem and it would mostly be used for checking sinners.
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Sinners should get removed from the game.
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>>579973418
Sex with these creatures
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>>579973418
Sinners should have actual slots rng rewards, light melees spins again and heavy melees cash out whatever you rolled, infinite spins at the cost of health
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>>579973768
they are boys
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>>579974353
grippy plappy
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>playercount so low I'm getting matched with Americans as an EU player on a saturday evening
ouch
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>>579970797
Sex with this creature.
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>>579967832
>literal glownigger CIA Haze
>not the most CIA and flight plan
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>>579974820
>playercount so low, that I'm getting matched with Europeans on NA servers on a Saturday afternoon
Jeez.
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>>579974820
>people don't want to play an unfinished, buggy, 0.01 number changes, horrible matchmaking, and no content for months game
shocking
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vindicta has been so weak for so long now, warden gets to do everything Vindicta has no health, no movement and does no damage until late game
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>>579976605
and other dumb shit bricklo says
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Vindicta's firerate should be same as Silver's
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>Doorman has been nerfed non stop for the past three months
>He is still THE strongest hero in the game bar none
Genuinely how do you fix this character
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>>579977491
Other way around
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>>579977552
i just want more slow guns in game, and vindicta being a minigun helicopter mower is silly
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>>579977546
His kit is just really good
The only thing makes him bad is people running it down with kidnap builds and buying egg first item when his lane is solid
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I get too scared to queue up solo for the main game what do i do???
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>>579977698
I agree that the sniper character should be slower
But also Silver handles that lever action like she's afraid it'll blow up
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They should add Hoodwink to this game.
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>>579977721
Standard doesn't matter. If anyone gives you shit just say "It's standard in bricklow, stfu"
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>>579977721
just do it
if someone talks shit just mute, what are they gonna do?
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>>579977546
He’s literally d tier bottom 5
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trying to unlock mina for comp is making me lose my fucking mind with my apollo going 4 and 17 STANDARD IS SO DOGSHIT
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>>579978372
reminder that you need to>50% winrate to climb in standard and that 40% grinders are in the same lobbies as highest ranked
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There's too much fucking stuns in the game if they're gonna put stuns in the game at least have it be skillful to use not auto lock look in someones direction and press a button thats just stupid
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>All the troontubers try to act like Metro is bad because he malds out
>Look at his rank
>Ascendant 2
So is this like some weird cope?
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>>579979036
i don't like the guy either but he seems to be getting targetted by a cabal of trannies.
that and he always whines like a baby when he loses so he is actually extremely easy to hate.
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>>579969426
she does 1k damage before 7 minutes no this is not hyperbole
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>>579979201
so we're just lying now
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>>579979036
Its objectively terrible for someone who plays the game like its his job and the spams the most braindead OP heroes possible.
I could coach a brand new player to his skill level in a month. Probably better even since he has no movement skill at all.
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>>579979291
yeah sorry i was lying my bad anon she does 1k damage before 11 minutes you caught me
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>>579979493
only reason she did that is because shes laning with S+++ilver ok wraith is C tier at best haven't you seen the tier lists?
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DEATH IS CUMMING
YER DED
ITS OVER
>Its over
WE HAVE YOU NOW
ILL CVCK 'EM
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Are games hard to close out or are pub teams just way too skittish about doing anything?
>we won the teamfight. Now let's take an obj-WAIT
>OUR LANES ARE TRASH.
*single creep touches a full health walker*
>BACK UP AND FARM THE ENTIRE JUNGLE AGAIN. I WILL THROW THIS GAME IF WE LOSE A SINGLE WALKER.
someone unironically said "we took mid. Now we can farm our side, then their side, then push" and I almost had an aneurysm
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Geist should adopt Graves and groom her
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>>579979036
He is literally carried by playing Wraith, if you actually watch his stream he has terrible macro decisions and often dies 1v6 just to blame his team for it.
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>Mmm, no.
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>>579977491
Vindicta's and Silver's guns should hit way harder, Vindicta's should shoot way slower too
also idk why they have such a hate boner towards shotguns, Silver and Abrams have hilariously poor and homogenized DPS

>>579977905
>Silver handles that lever action like she's afraid it'll blow up
lmao her animation is weirdly disjointed from the actual fire rate
like the lever is still down when she fires the next shell
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>>579965735
>JJ Jameson-like yellow press reporter with an absolute hate boner for Ivy.
Kino idea for a new character.
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Deadlock is divided between heroes that are OP and popular and heroes that are OP but unpopular. Every single hero has some stupid broken bullshit in their kit and I don't mean that in the fun kind of "if everyone is OP no one is!" way. Sinclair and GT are great examples of OP and unpopular. Their kits are insane but niche and hard to pull off + shitty character models so no one plays them. This means they are considered "weak" despite being strong because strong vs weak to the Deadlock community is entirely based off of vibes and is why the balance is as dogshit as it is.
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>>579980718
I hate GT but I wouldn't say he's OP, just insufferable
He can't solo carry games if that makes sense.
A single phantom strike and he falls over like the old man he is
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>>579980252
The latter. Bricklow don't understand that turrets in this game are paper, because they're too afraid to walk up to realize.
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Standard fucking blows
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>>579976605
Vindicta has serious design issues that the devs try to compensate by just increasing her damage and it never works.
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>>579980718
this. Viscous' puddle punches are total fucking bullshit but because he doesnt have a 90% pickrate no one cares
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>>579980718
>>579980918
the only things that are crazy about GT is that his base spirit scaling is higher than default (it's not that huge though), and of course the fact you can manually detonate traps mid-air to inflict free curse wherever you want, any time you want, for 4 seconds with like 15 second cooldown. the rest is all fine though. charged shot countered by spellbreaker, flight countered by knockdown/phantom strike, owl countered by counterspell/eshift/spellbreaker
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https://youtu.be/MQflMqHRyRE?si=Ul8kLpj6O1M4l0bw

The early ideas they had for this game were so soulful
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>>579980252
One guy fixing waves is fine, never give the enemy a free walker that slot could be game changing.
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>>579980918
>A single phantom strike and he falls over like the old man he is
GT is one of the flyers that is the least susceptible to phantom strike because he has 4 (6 if he has stam mastery, which every GT does) and a very low cooldown on his flight ability, unless you can follow up with a death combo like Abrams charge, he can easily get away especially with a dispel.
t. Talon player.
>>579981439
>it's not that huge though
It is huge if you consider boundless spirit % spirit bonus, since it applies at all times for all multipliers, meaning that even without stacks the item is more powerful on him.
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>>579981439
for me its the free curse + execute that I think is going too far. Actual curse has a 50s cooldown + 25% damage penalty while GT can spam the map with this for 0 penalty every 14 seconds. If it was disarm + silence I wouldn't care. But curse interrupts literally everything and disables items its too strong. And as for the owl I think it being a remote nuke is fine and even the spirit stacks are fine. but a remote 22% execute on a 60 second cooldown is too much.
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>>579981994
I mostly meant a frontliner with phantom strike
A billy or abrams will just eat him for breakfast.
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>>579974820
oh god it only has 75 thousand players ITS FUCKING OVER
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>>579969426
>>579969596
It's because shes very diveable even with teleport + dispel.
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>>579982103
A billy or abrams with phantom strike will eat anyone for breakfast, GT is even better than most at avoiding it.
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>steal mid as paige 3 THREE TIMES
>one of my teammates even says 'go steal paige'
>no one NOT ONE person shows up
>look at the minimap
>mirage is farming a jungle camp right next to mid
-______- there were TWO PEOPLE DOING MID TOO ONLY TWO
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>>579974820
If you were a real eu you'd be grateful for not being matched with russians.
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>>579980718
just wait for the riot clone with 1 damage 2 dash 3 passive: gun does more damage 4 more damage heroes
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Only ~3-4 weeks until the big update.
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>>579981149
like? phantom strike has a 25m cast range and vindicta has no issues functioning in the skybox beyond that range
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>>579983053
February is in 4 weeks?
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I wouldnt wish standard on my worst enemy fucking terrible mode filled with the worst people you'll ever play with genuinely
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darn too bad i am the only constant
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Why does Warden look like a cop but his lore implies he should look more like Venator?
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>>579981840
It all went downhill with the leak.
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Hello, should I give this game a real shot now or wait for the patch that's supposedly coming?
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>>579984335
Unfinished model. I imagine him to look like this especially since he's from an Alchemist family.
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>>579984417
Just wait, you will probably have better luck getting put with new people as well since every big content update has a sharp rise in playercount.
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>>579981439
>charged shot is countered by spellbraker
LOL
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>>579980718
>Deadlock is divided between heroes that are OP and popular and heroes that are OP but unpopular.
this is a MASSIVE fucking truke
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>>579984417
Wait for the big update or wait for open beta (probably in 2027) but don't start playing know unless you are willing to hit yourself against a wall repeatedly, most players have 100+ hours and the game has no good tutorials unless you're willing to watch youtube videos.
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I am once again BEGGING for leaks. Please. It's been close to 10 months, close to a year. There is no way someone reading this doesn't have that year's worth of development on his hands. Please. We're starving.
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>>579985273
>begging for leaks when we're in the home stretch
have some self respect bro
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>>579985273
My biggest worry is that there are ZERO new heroes and that devs have spent all their resources on the item update + risk of rain mode
If that's the case I'm uninstalling, this game is getting stale as fuck. Don't think I can handle seeing wraith every game for the next 8+ months.
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>>579985557
0 new heros is already confirmed
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>>579985557
There's tons of unreleased characters in the works
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>>579985458
1 month. That's fine and all, but if we don't get any leaks during the next 2 weeks, we can assume there is NO actual new content. Remember how each hero we got last time got leaked, including some of their abilities? We saw the base rework a month before we got it in game. We haven't actually seen the PVE mode, we haven't heard of new heroes, we haven't seen the new jungle, we haven't seen the item rework, we didn't get shit. I don't believe they got rid of all leakers, they just didn't give them anything to leak to begin with.

>>579985557
>>579986032
It's so over man.

>>579986046
And we'e not seeing them until 2027 from the looks of it.
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>>579986303
you do realize leaks only happen if someone is willing to to leak stuff right? I assume they sign an NDA now so getting caught leaking will get you in some hot legal trouble which wouldnt be too hard to figure out who is leaking shit
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>>579985458
POV: You're laning against Abrams
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the update is ranked beta season 1
no content changes
enjoy! :3
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>>579957703
how are you supposed to carry teams like these?
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>>579986706
step 1: don't be an ultbot
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>>579986741
but i like ult builds
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>>579986643
kek
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>>579980718
>GT
He's so strong but he's so satisfying especially when you sit in the back and chunk the enemy team with your arrows. He's the only character that can ignore other 4.8k spikes and still be useful.
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>>579986303
>>579986032
>>579985557
Doomkeks, I will be expecting a fully written, non AI-generated, 5000 letter apology when the update hits early October.
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>>579986706
don't build lighting scroll on seven.
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>paradox doesnt hit her green spike and only gets veilwalker
Phantom btw.
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>>579986619
They need at least 12 people to test full games. They realistically have 24 - 150 people testing the game throughout different time periods at bare minimum. If all of those gets access to the same content at once, which they need to play together, we have a 0.6-8.3% chance of being considered the cause behind a leak. Using a VPN, and just dropping off a verbal description or a highly AI filtered image leak makes it close to impossible for cops to find out who was behind it.Besides, if they cared enough to hunt people down like dogs, Deathy would be fucked due to leaking the entire content plan of 2025. There simply just isn't content.

>>579986679
cry

>>579987343
You don't get it, we're on your side, we want the patch to be everything we could wish for, but we just don't have any basis for believing in one, esp when Yoshi confirmed they didn't widen the scope. Also, Jiren was a boring ass antagonist.
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>boostedlo players think that every character needs a green spike
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>>579986706
you're not supposed to. the second I queue with a teammate who never uses their gun or abilities to push waves or harass I know I'm in loser's queue
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>>579987837
I report all non spiked for throwing
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>>579987463
Veil walker is just that good
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>>579988062
If you get a gun spike on Victor you are legitimately and unironically throwing.
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>>579988268
Wrong, go spec top 20 victors and report back with your apology
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Is it me or is the map too cluttered?
It feels easier to mark the areas with sightlines than it is to mark all the enclosed small areas
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>>579987837
>he doesn't want literal free accumulative stats
You'll naturally hit a green spike anyways because you should be buying dispel magic/counterspell every game and depending on your character you either get a tier 2 green or get another tier 3 green.
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>>579987463
what does she need green for? she has probably the best dash in the game, and fights from 40+ meters back. if anyone does get on her she just puts up a shield that blocks bullets and silences. on top of her really good health per boon, she really doesnt need it
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>>579988791
>Swapp-ACK
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>team has infernus dynamo lash victor
>we actually played extremely well but it doesnt matter because they just have better team slop ults
yawn shit game
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>>579988893
even if you have your 4800 greens you still don't need to swap into the enemy team
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>>579988909
also to add to this what the actual fuck are we supposed to do against refresher lash into refresher dynamo into refresher victor? holy shit
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>>579988893
paradox players use swap in 2 situations nowadays. first to get quick picks when no one else is around for a gank or on someone standing in front of them to gain a shield and maybe silence them with the wall. the times of swapping yourself into the enemy team is long gone
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what could they even do with their item patch that would make this game actually fun to interact with?
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>>579989035
play very far apart from your team.
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>>579988738
>you should be buying dispel magic/counterspell every game

Great game design btw, wow so dynamic
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>2 weeks since they buffed celeste
>still nothing
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>>579989234
and thats the problem with these characters
>play apart
okay how you have to be in pit patron to defend it you have to be in mid boss room to get it you have to be on rift to do it
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>>579989126
Remove every real item and replace them with stuff like Magic Carpet
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>ABL is asian
UNBAN him from DLNS right now!!!
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>>579988791
>What does she need green for?
You can pick up heal bane + stamina mastery to capitalize on her dashes & a smidge of sustain if you're really that against eating your greens

>>579989035
NTA but you can pick some of the following items
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>>579989303
warden is stronger though
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>>579989358
Its funny seeing all the white americans cry about him using the nword when he's some asian mongol eyed siberian desert mysterymeat
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>>579989303
Dude, chill out they're working on the next biggest patch right now. They can't divert resources to always balance the game.
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>>579989450
Divine probably wouldn't be best but you can replace it with 4 other stun/silence items like knockdown, silencer, silence wave, focus lens, or other shit I can't think about right now
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>>579989520
Be honest, do you people actually think Warden needs a nerf? feels like nerfing his items in the current build (like the OP Veilwalker) would be a better approach.
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Start buying toxic bullets on billy
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>>579989450
>have you tried buying 20k of counter items

There's that fag talk we talked about
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>>579989684
he never deserved having that fucking silence on cage.
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>>579989520
debatable but yes those are the 2 top characters right now. throw in mo too as nigger tier
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>>579989684
All the problem characters would be fixed if they were reverted to their pre-march 6th version.
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>>579989891
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>>579989771
>>have you tried buying 20k of counter items
>In a late game where you have multiple refresher stun ultimates and winning teamfights is more important than just doing raw damage
Pic rel
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>>579981035
>be me
>be Silver
>enemy Wraith and Graves come rolling down yellow lane
>hair on the back of my neck bristles
>visibly sweating
>it's happening
>Graves plaps a tombstone and wall ghouls
>Heroic Aura sends them screaming towards me
>[You have alerted the horde!]
>have to buy time
>WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE RUNNING?!
>bola the first ghoul, stops dead in their tracks (for 1.5 seconds)
>need to create space!
>Boot Kick for the knockback
>the ghoul immediately blows up for half of my HP
>breathing heavily as i spam NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
>Slam Fire the next ghoul
>it's at half health
>i might actually be able to defend this
>*SRKKTKTKRKKTKBRBRBATARTATARBBRVRVT*
>Wraith begins unloading her infinite Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mercurial Magnum on the walker
>her bullets ricochet and send my health plummeting
>... but the HP loss boosts my bloodlust to full!!
>Forgive me... I must go all out... just this once.
>AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>fvcking leap over the ghouls as they jihad the walker
>LIFTING
>AUUUUGHHHH TAIL SWIPE TAIL SWIPE TAIL SWIPE
>the disarm buys me just enough time to AWOOOOOO back behind the walker
>beat a hasty retreat down the zipline as our walker explodes
>cool_wolves_dont_lool_at_explosions.mp4pegif
>pass by Dynareddit and Bebop on the way back to fountain
>thank the Patron, help is coming to protect our walker
>"Silver fights for all of us."
another job well done

>>579986706
>3/13 Infernus on my team
>"gg team is dogshit"
spare your mental and take the L

>>579986741
>>579987367
every Seven i've seen try to build hybrid gunshit instead of running it down like a pure spirit ult bot troglodyte vastly underperforms
the power of being a bigger retard than the enemy negates your full retardation and elevates you to drooling Jimmy Neutrawking brainpower nirvana
your butt chakra will unfold and open your third eye to occult eldritch schizocore tardmagic
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Celeste should have negative base bullet resistance. Actually it's so weird how bullet resistance is such a nothingburger stat. I guess if bullet resistance was good then the game would be dominated by nothing but tanks.
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>>579989310
mid boss has a shit ton of angles to attack from, don't come from the same angle as your teammates do and really just give up on contesting rejuv completely unless you actually have unstoppable because you aren't touching it with those ults.
defending your base without stacking up is also pretty easy, the base is actually pretty big and you can use the highground to your advantage since your spawn connects to it.
it's definitely difficult to deal with them since they're probably duo queued with that pair to wombo combo but it's not impossible to win against.
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>>579990420
>the game would be dominated by nothing but tanks.
This would be a good thing though. TankGODS own hero shooters and MMOs.
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>>579990420
she fucking used to have negative bullet res but only for a month and it was only -8 at it's highest.
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>>579965818
another FANTASTIC post by a VegitaGOD
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>mcginnis' turrets no longer hit you off ziplines!
>they still hit you off air vents though!
im glad we wait months between updates i really am
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>still using the vents at all
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>>579962453
>wraith
>mostly honest
bro she's celeste tier
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>>579961029
are you also brown because that would track
>>579969140
TRVKE. the pro scene is just subhuman third worlders with no jobs win trading with pocket strats they have exclusive privilege to see in advance with their secret builds of the game so they don't literally starve to death. maybe 200 dollars per person per week btw.
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Erm... all the pro players and eternus players like metro say she is high B teir to low A teir
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>>579980368
I played with him when he was on billy before and noticed him doing this 1v6 shit so I'd just bait him and play off it for ez team wipes.
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>>579989617
>It's okay to say nigger if you're non white
lol
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>team gets too cocky over winning lane easy they try to constantly take blue walker at 12 minutes while the enemy team slowly builds back up and we lose
the people in this game are so fucking dumb
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>>579992261
to be fair this dog shit game is literally decided by lanes because the people who get raped in lane get their ego raped and they run it the fuck down on blue ignoring sidelanes until the game ends so they can recover their honor or some shit. third worlders mentally boom within 3 minutes.
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Nigga literally every genz person of every race says nigga im pretty sure only people on twitter and millennials actually care.
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how independent are assassin/gank characters? because it feels like you're pretty self-sufficient in terms of roaming, ganking, and getting out, but it feels like you're still at the whim of your teammates especially in the lategame during major teamfights
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>Start playing more casually since rank update
>See a name a I remember after I did my placements and played my first non-placement game
>Look him up on statlocker
>Dude has been playing the game every single day 3-5 games a day but is still in Oracle
He played like absolute ass as well and was the worst performer on the team. I hope Yoshi actually fixes ranked in Season 2.
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I fucking love vis every time you play well you get to see some post crying about puddle punch.
The best is when you punch someone into your teammates and you watch them give up.
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This game isn't bullshit maxxing like Dota enough and thats why it doesnt feel as fun as it should. Is should be able to cast non-ult abilities on magic carpet and play carpet boming geist.
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>>579992579
the only viable proper assassin character is calico
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>boot kick drifter
>i go right through him and he ones me and insta kills me
playing silver is for people with humiliation fetishes i swear
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>>579992993
>should be able to cast non-ult abilities on magic carpet
Lash hits you for max damage slam hits a grapple as he flies away, and then hits you again 6 seconds later.
Sounds like a receipt for disaster.
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Hear me out:
Toxic bullets Shiv

>>579992993
Just play Troonaday
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>>579977721
>>579978443
If you want a solid tilt proof plan just premute everyone, mute the game, then watch something on the second monitor only unmuting everything if it's minute 20 and everything is going alright
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>>579993498
>Toxic bullets
>Shiv
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>>579993673
24% rage bonus is like 100 free spirit on toxic bullets.
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>>579993360
stop running into 1v5s and open fights with bola
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man, I wish warpstone was a gun item again
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>>579993879
Jamie pull up the scaling multiplier on toxic bullets
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Deadlock needs a true Old Geezer character.
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if you buy active reload on silver you can keep reloading even if you have a full clip its funny
>>
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>>579995710
I don't think Seven is your character.
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>>579994867
>shoot an enemy
>slam fire to double your dps
>active reload to double your dps again
>quicksilver bola to double your dps again
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>579994867
you can do that on anyone?
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>>579995710
Highest winrate REM player
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>>579995710
put the mo and krill in the bag gang
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When we getting Indian Viscous mod?
>He is brown instead of green
>instead of saying launching goo he says launching poo
>he turns into a ball of poo
>instead of cube he is poop emoji
>his fists are poo
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>>579996795
Do you have a scat fetish?
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>>579996795
That's disgusting, what's wrong with you?
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>>579995812
Uninstalled the game. I am consistently average, but this is just pure dogshit, I am not a carry-tier player and I don't want to be one.
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Remember when they floated the idea of an Indian Yamato?
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>>579997309
Would she speak broken jeet english instead of Japanese?
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>>579997173
then why were you playing the carry hero?

>>579997309
there are cool indian characters in fighting games

https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_EX2_Plus/Darun_Mister
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>>579979036
Everyone that's good is already eternus
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There should be no active item limit, and that is a fact
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>ranked system is purely win/loss
>change it to more performance based
>change it again to purely win/loss
do they have any idea what they're doing or do they just flip a coin every 6 months
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>>579997556
I was playing the chill carry ult build and consistently killing people but the teams are legit so dogshit it's absolutely impossible to win.
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>>579997958
seven is a carry hero, but he's more reliant on his team to carry since he has to stand still doing his ult for 5 minutes. wraith and infernus are carries with more solo potential
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>>579997949
>why are they testing things in this playtest?
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>>579997949
Valve likes doing le playtests for game "polish" so since Y*shi is a lazy nigger who can't design games we're now the guinea pigs in their glados dogshit test chamber
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>>579997635
>no active item limit
>getting people to buy a single counter item is still like pulling teeth
i swear the game should just forcibly add them to your inventory
make it tied to boons, have it deduct souls automatically, LoL style talent pages, i literally do not care just give people the tools required for success because they NEED to be handheld or it won't happen on its own
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>>579997635
>mokrill skyrockets to a 70% over all winrate
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>>579998092
>should we try a new method?
>no, go back to the old one. it'll work this time.
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Solo queueing in this game proved to me that direct democracy is a horrible idea. And made me pro-choice.
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>>579997949
Preformance sux and I’m sick of explaining why over and over
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>>579998120
the worst thing about the "playtest" is the immediately retarded changes they make. you wouldn't have to bother patching things into the game and then out again if you just thought about it for 30 seconds but that's asking way too much from this dev team
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>>579998491
I can't believe yoshi charged us seventy dollars for this fully released videogame...
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>>579998419
Yes, because it lowers player engagement and makes stonks go down, we know Y*shi
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>>579998593
even if you paid $100 for this game you would still be running defense 24/7 for the most retarded decisions in gaming history absolutely for free
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Give mo a huge bulge to increase his overall rapist aesthetic.
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>>579998593
>IT'S LE FREE SO IT'S OKAY FOR US TO BE A DOGSHIT DEV TEAM GUISE
Sure, but you're still a dogshit dev team
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>>579998679
No it makes rank system calibration longer
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>>579998796
I got into this unfinished beta game for free with the understanding that they will make sweeping changes off the cuff to experiment and I am judging it from that standpoint. I also understand that I can uninstall and stop playing at any time. I must have several IQ intervals over you.
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>someone gives you a muffin
>take a bite
>its filled with shit
>"what the fuck, its filled with shit"
>YOU CANT COMPLAIN BRO ITS NOT LIKE IT COST YOU MONEY, YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GOT BECAUSE YOU DIDNT PAY
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>>579998984
the traditional adage from Dota is
>free game. so no bitching
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>>579998927
>IQ intervals
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>>579998927
Thank you Valve for the honor of playtesting deadlock, we should all be eternally grateful.
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>>579998927
raped slave mentality
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just uninstall the game my nigga just uninstall and walk away from the screen haha
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I’ve been testing this game for 650 hours

Using the fed min wage yoshi owes me at least 4712$
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>>579998593
>>579998927
>its a playtest and the devs want feedback
>BUT NOT NEGATIVE FEEDBACK YOU CAN NEVER EVER EVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE GAME EVER WHY AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL FOR PLAYING??? ITS FREE!!!!!
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>>579998927
>iq intervals
SAAAR WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO VALVE BRAHMINS FOR DOING THE NEEDFUL FOR US DALITS
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no complaining in the playtest please
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>>579999398
what feedback? all I read is impotent bitching
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>>579999461
what am i even playtesting dude. there's no updates anymore
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Sweet meltie going down in /dlg/ today
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>>579999461
this. the devs want feedback, not bitching. if you don't like something keep it to yourself.
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>she is black so she likes to steal things
I feel like they could have tried a little harder with paradoxes character.
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>she is black so she likes to kill people for money
I feel like they could have tried a little harder with calicos character.
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>>579996795
Hilarious and based.
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>he is black and has a criminal record as a youth and uses finger guns and runs fast
I feel like they could have tried a little harder with infernus' character.
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>>579999541
That's right, no matter how dogshit the matchmaking update is, we shouldn't call it dogshit.
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>she is black so she likes to gamble and sell drugs
I feel like they could have tried a little harder with wraiths character.
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>they're black so they steal ults
I feel like they could have tried a little harder with sinclairs character
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>>579998593
honestly this is such a non-argument if profitability would coincide with quality
i think most people would happily drop 70 burgers if it meant better updates, consistent updates, proper balancing, more QoL features and bugfixes, network stability and response time, anticheat and moderation, generally just improvements across the board
not to mention a box price would filter out a lot of scumbags

if the point of contention is
>no money = shit quality
>many monies = good quality
then wtf are we doing
the reality is that they're floundering and have no direction, which is why they always look to highly opinionated streamers for the stamp of approval
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>hes retarded so he's annoying to be around
They definitely could've tried harder with Viscous' character
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>>579999398
who are you quoting
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>>580000153
>Sinclair
>Black
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>>580000293
sure, wait for deadlock plus on release?

>they're floundering

uninstall and come back later?
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>>580000124
Wraith would've been better if she white and not a sheboon desu. Same with Calico.
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>>580000373
I accept your concession.
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>>580000389
>wait for release
in 2040?
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>>580000389
>uninstall and come back later?
i did and it's still dogshit
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>another three months of these melties before the item update drops
goodbye /dlg/
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>>579986643
>Purple bullets
Merc mag on the 'brams?
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>>580000094
Ixian
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>>580000376
Both actors are black.
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>>580002069
gross
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>>579998910
so it's more certain? oh no
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>>580002345
how did you not know that bro? they sound black
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>>580002717
I don't live in a country with niggers, thank god
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>>580002984
now you just sound even more retarded and most likely underage. you're just a poser racist. try living in such country and become a real racist
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>>580002409
No it’s less certain, performance by construction takes longer to sort everyone properly
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>>580003141
>no you have to have your country ruined first before you realise nons are subhumans
retard
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>eternal night
>6 second duration
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>still no sasquach hero
Yoshi?
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>>580003978
your Silver bro?
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Do you think all the old models are gonna get a remodel this update? How drastic do you think the most glaring ones are, like Calico and Talon

Calico is the only one that has no leaks or suggestions on what it could be. Will they just give her hair a full make over?
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>>580000389
>release
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How do I play Bebop?
It feels like I do no damage no matter how I build him.
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>>580004316
You're not really meant to do damage on him anymore. Fight with a teammate and call out your hook

You want stuff with set damage like headhunter
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>>580004031
Why do you assume they'd change Calico? Just because she looks like a Concord character? That's part of her identity now, and Valve doesn't think there's anything wrong with her.
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>>580004421
>Fight with a teammate
Impossible in pigeonlo.
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>unlock character I want for ranked
>decide to unlock a different character instead of playing ranked
I'll forever be an unrankedcel
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>>580004467
dude, her hair piece was clearly a WIP taken from Haze.

Every hero from hero labs was scuffed and unfinished without exception. That's like saying Yamato is meant to look like an alien
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>>580004467
source: the same ass that current calico was shat out of
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>>580004680
>>580005084
I accept your concession.
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>>580004316
correct way is to hook and build utility to kill the person you hook
everything else is throwing
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>>579997173
>>579997958
Everyone smart left. Sorry you had to learn this way.
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>>580005321
source of this comeback: the same ass that current calico was shat out of
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>>580004031
honestly i think calico's design is fine but the actual modelwork needs polish. her hair being in a bun like that is fine for someone as high-class and professional as she presents herself but the actual model makes her just kinda look bald with a ball stuck on top
>>
WHERE

THE

FUCK

ARE

THEY

ICEFRAUD
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>>580006274
too sovlfvl
valve could never
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>>580006274
No happening. Only modern audience take on 1900s occult now. Honestly, I wonder what the game would be like if it was never leaked.
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>>580007057
probably much worse
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>>580007057
The game would have come out by now and be fucking dead. It would have been only the MOBA mode a wouldn't have crowdpleaser designs like Mina.
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buff counter spell PLEASE
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>>580006274

They should just pack this all into the invoker hero
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forced 50
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ONCE AGAIN I AM VINDICATED
IT IS LITEARLLY NOT MY FAULT I HAVE A 25% WR, THE GAME IS GIVING ME HORRIBLE TEAMMATES
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thoughts?
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>>580008658
why keep playing? be like me and stop playing this shit and play single player games instead
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>>580008658
This stat is pure schizophrenia because if you are in losing games your teammates will always have less damage and worse kds.
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>>580009595
>play single player games
loser
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>>580009409
>no rusted barrel in t1
unironically busted as fuck
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>>580009637
read nigga read it clearly states this is BEFORE the game starts. meaning it just looks the average mmr of your team vs average of enemy team, and for me the enemy team almost always gets a better average for some horrible reason. and yes i am solo queue.
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Why does calico never say nigga?
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>>580010430
ngl if any of the blacks said "nigga" to each other in a friendly way (and had a black va) valve would probably be praised for le epic storytelling since amermutts worship blacks
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>>580010574
No actually amerimutts would attempt to cancel the game for appropriation of black culture and furthering racial stereotypes
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>>580009595
single player games are extremely boring to me. even "hard" ones like elden ring after easy compared to multiplayer games
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>>580010574
>play calico/wraith/infernus
>say nigger
>allowed because you're roleplaying as a black character
status check on ABL's roster
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When are they adding big booty bitches to the game?
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>>580011213
This but tits

It is fucking insane silver, celeste and graves were all slender
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>ummmmmmmmmmmm actually duos are fair bro! because both teams can get a duo so........ ack ackAC KKKKK ACKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>580009409
who buys splitshot aside vyper I literally never see it on anyone aside vyper and paige.
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>>580011820
Gun R*m
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Start buying magic carpet on drifter
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>>580001192
Silencer
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>>580011451
erm... your geist?
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>>580007057
It would've been Artifact 2.0, unironically.
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>Game 1
>Victor on enemy team
>Victor is 10-2 at game end
>Game 2
>Same Victor is on my team
>Ends game 1-11
Explain this phenomenon
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What dota hero do they need to reskin and port over to save the game?
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>>580013853
All victor players are terminal coin flippers you just got the tails not the heads.
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>>580013907
axe function would be popular and give a strong option vs pub stomp carries
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>Queue into a ranked match
>Get an Apollo on my team
>There's also a Vyper
>Apollo starts pleading with Vyper in the pre-game area for her to switch to another hero so he can get Vyper
>Says he's a Vyper onetrick and can only play Vyper
>Vyper doesn't switch
>Game goes poorly, Apollo keeps talking on the mic about how he would carry if he was Vyper
>We lose
>Queue up for another match
>Get the same guy on my team, he's on Vyper
>He goes 4/9 30k damage in 40 minutes and we lose
amazing
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>>579986706
You don't
>>579986741
>don't be the one thing seven excels at
Retard
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>>580011820
>He doesn't know about the secret Abrams splitshot build
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>>579970797
i hope she works for friends of humanity and has her horns cut off and wears a muzzle like a knights helmet and has a flamberge or sum shit
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Ehy is mokrill allowed to just stat check Amy hero in the game?
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>>580013907
Doom or Undying
actually tanky frontliners who can severely cripple the enemy team
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>>580015817
The entire game is comparing who has better health per boon because the only anti tank item is fucking tankbuster
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Doom but its a sexy evil ixian woman.
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>>580016593
thats queen of pain
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>>580016223
>>580016593
I think Doom's ult would actually be a good addition to this game. A true, absolute, undeniable "fuck you" button against a single hero.
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>celeste feeds entire game
>complains about us trying to win the game and wants to lose so the game will end

Why do these people even queue?
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Delete flying slash
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>>580016435
hunter's aura and the disables all have bullet and spirit shred
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>>580017756
these people have the mentality that if they can't carry and have fun the the game should just be over. insane ego, basically.
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>>580017363
I wanna see doom too, but when the roster is more developed I think (60+).
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hmmm I think I'm about to queue up graves. What build should I do?
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>>580017756
probably a shitter who thought playing FotM would get them boosted freelo
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>>580018635
I think spirit is the most effective if they have stuff like bebop. if you go gun vs strong kiters or bebop you just get wrecked. the best graves I've seen went spirit and just relied on zombies to overwhelm
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Mokrill feels like a hero that should have been added way later into the game after they put in all the dota reskin characters with bullshit abilities.
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>>580017756
TRANS
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>>580018769
mo is a textbook tanky disabler/anti carry. people whining about the "synergy" in the new kits weren't around or forgot that mo wasn't able to do scorn and items (I think, i forgot) when he was burrowing
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>down 30k souls
>rift spawns
>only the enemy Viscous and I show up
>can't kill it because of cubes + echo shard + soul lead
>it can't kill me either since it went mostly support
>99%/99%
>about to time out
>it cubes near the edge
>realize I can just punch it out
>punch it
>Viscous realizes this too late and slides out of the ring
>get the comeback souls needed to win the game
I don't think I can top that one.
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>Lever action
>Slam fire
???
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>>580019725
it's a magic lever action duh
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>>580019392
kino!
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>>580019725
bro dwifta reloads his hands and haze just pulls on the stock. guns just dont make sense in this game
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>>580019392
>it
viscous is a he, nigga
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Are we dead ass bro
Like deadlock ass dead ass brother?
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>>580020150
the ass is locked
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>>580018392
Speaking of Doom, i wonder if we're going to see Devour in this game. You know, once the jungle creeps are actually unique and each of them have different abilities they can use we could have a hero who eats them to get their abilities like Doom.
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>>580019392
>enemy Viscous cubes on the outer ring of our walker
>know he's going for the full heal
>heavy melee him into the inner ring just as it's about to spit him out
>walker stomp
>easy kill
these puddle punching little shits deserve misery

>>580019725
>>580019901
>Seven squeegees his gun like a super soaker
>Ivy reloads from the bottom
>BILLY EATS THE MAGAZINE
>Paradox goes wowosheeossoorop
>Victor just jiggles the fvcking thing
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>>580020504
wrecker used to have that, I'm guessing they shelved that for the time being. he could come back if the update comes with the jungle rework
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>>580018156
That's not percentage health damage.
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>>580020739
I think the tanks are in a good spot and we need more because we only really have 3 dedicated tank heroes. mo only gets unkillable if he scales against scrubs and I don't believe he's ever carried reliably in NS
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>>580020019
I don't care about valve's woke pronouns.
Pocket is a he and Viscous is an it.
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>silver bought egg
just kill me
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I thought valve let me say the 'nigger' word? I didnt mean it in a racist way
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>>580020676
>Infernus is just doing finger guns at people and has to shake his hand cuz its overheating
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>>580020676
good viscous players can cancel cube into a parry, I love the bluff calling in this game
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>>580021943
>27
there is no way you get that on the first rip, so you have been there multiple times.
and valve doesn't care what you say, if other players find you annoying you end up there, maybe don't be an annoying cunt when ur calling people niggers?
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>>580021943
They do it's just the reports in this game are cumulative and when you get enough reports you get punished.
>27 wins
You might as well just uninstall, and wait for the next major patch. I can't imagine what low prio que is like when standard is already a big steaming pile of horse shit.
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>>580022178
I love queuing up a heavy melee and getting these greedy fuckers to cancel their cube early cause they think im a retard and actually going to melee them
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>>580022259
>>580022278
I just stole that image and was larping
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>>580022052
i love how it makes the Zippo flip lighter sound
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>>580021943
Low prio sounds fucking horrible. Thankfully in my 2000 hours of saying slurs in game I've never been sent there
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we're gonna get Aghanim's Scepter and when Seven ults he actually summons a thunderstorm in your irl location, hopoo told me this in a dream
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>>580022601
>fiend's grip REM

kino
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Had a dream that when you hovered over stats and items you could see what items they were going to add but you couldn't actually buy them because the patch wasn't out
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>>580021943
how is this possible?
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I played my first game with real people and I underperformed :(((((((((
we still won tho
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>>580022448
I think when Infernus has like +50% firerate he should do the finger gun anim with both hands
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>>580022546
I did a couple of low prio wasnt that bad was quite fun cause im oracle and just bullied shitters with bomb bop
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>>580023047
Oracle is shitter now?
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>>580022993
hot take
>Infernus no longer uses ammo, his hand overheats
>max ammo gives more capacity
>reloading dumps the heat quickly but locks you out of firing
>hotter hand gives more Afterburn buildup
>overheating procs Afterburn on yourself
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>>580023464
no oracle is pretty good imo, but low priority has no matchmaking so the other low 80% of the game was in it and had no idea how to beat bebop
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what do you like, do, when you petrify an enemy
do I keep shooting them or what
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>about to kill an enemy
>Vyper petrifies them/Doorman hotels them
>have to akwardly stand, likely getting converged on my enemies because there's a chance they might live
Annoying fucking ability
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>>580023701
You can build up debuffs while they're petrified, that's about it thought.
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>>580023895
Valve noticed how MOBAs are the most toxic genera of multiplayer game because there are a million and one ways to screw over your teammates baked into the core of the gameplay and then asked "but what if we also added like 40 more ways to fuck your team over baked into individual characters' kits?"
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my hands hurt from playing deadlock all day this past 3 days but i did it. also yes, i need to activate (re-crack) windows.
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>>580023895
i hate doorman's that do this so much
yeah man great idea to make us stand around for 5 seconds for your 300 damage nuke (conditionally 50)
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>no medusa hero
>petrification is tied to an exploding bola carried by a degen lizard(?)
>very different from the normal non-exploding generic tangles-you-up Silver bola
>canonically adopted the bola from Silver after being bola'd many times
>possibly a trick learned in Jersey, however that comes to pass
what were they thinking
what's the next stage of bolas
hackerman or virologist who throws e-bolas
clusterbolas that splatter around the room like concertina bombs
line chef who throws out bowls of bolas
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>>580024190
You say valve but LoL has these too.
Hell their version of vyper ult also petrifies teammates it hits.
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>>580024006
I thought there'd be more than that
so should I only use it to escape or something
petrifying 2/3/4/5 enemies while keeping a single enemy out so the team can rape him seems a bit too inconsistent, both in the reliability of the aoe hitbox and in the situation actually coming up
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>>580024469
Okay but what's her name wasn't being made when the MOBA genera was well over a decade old
Surely we would've known better by the time Deadlock was taking shape
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>>580024454
nazi bolas
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>>580024676
>noooooooo you cant have abilities that can backfire
why????
>um you just cant sweaty
shut up lil nigga, we like it
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>>580024676
>wasn't being made when the MOBA genera was well over a decade old
yeh it was
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>>580024810
Oh I got them confused with someone else
Whatever I don't care league is shit
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>>580024454
>no medusa hero
Viper has multiple ult lines calling her bola apart of her gorgon powers
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>>580024626
It's good if you need a bit of burst for an execute or to cancel a channel, and when its maxed it's one of the best rejuv contest abilities in the game.
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>>580024202
wow retarded niggers are really starting to fill ascendant maybe i should have continued the grind and reached eternus instead of waiting for the update
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>>580024792
Have you considered reading the reply chain to understand why I'm saying this is a problem?
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>>580025140
i am going to pretend your post was very supportive, nice and that you congratulated me on my achievement
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>>580025140
I've been trying to rank up as a Geist main and I want to shoot myself ngl.

I feel like everything needs to go perfectly or I just get buttraped
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even metro is asc 2 now i expected ranks to get better overtime not worse goodjob yoshi
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>falling for the metro is bad psyop
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>>580025140
>62% win on paige
i thought paige was bad?
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wraith and warden is fine btw C tier at best really bad lane as well
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>>580024454
>no medusa hero
Medusa is a name of a specific gorgon, Gorgon is the species.
The original story even has them as 3 gorgon sisters, Medusa, Stheno, and Euryale.
Medusa was the only who was killed and the only one who wasn't a straight up immortal, perseus had to run away from the other two after killing Medusa.

Vyper is a gorgon.
You are a retard.
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>>580025472
Are you genuinely retarded? Dude is an absolute nigger acts like one plays like one and does stupid shit like on he literally threw so many of my games while the rank protection he's been crying about literally protected him more than the people he's crying about
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>>580025604
>260 games
Christ ranking up looks fucking HORRIBLE. I can barely stomach 3 rank games a day
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gorgon deez
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Who is Vortex Web good on aside from Doorman, Paige, and Paradox?
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>>580027504
ivy
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>>580027504
Ivy if you're doing the funny airdrop into double stone form circle dispenser build, very situationally on billy if the enemy team has a bunch of heros who can just teleport out after your ult pull
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>>580027504
dynamo, shiv, paige
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Is it just me or do weekends have a higher volume of retards?
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>>580027758
How new?
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>>580027746
It seems like a waste of souls on Dynamo since his greater expansion ult is already about as big as the vortex web
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>>580028043
use it after ult to keep them raped, either that or arctic blast
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>>580028073
>arctic blast dynamo
lmao i gotta try that
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>>580027504
Graves.
>Vortex
>Grasping Hands
>Echo Shart
>Grasping Hands again
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What are you even meant to do about a dynamo who just warp stone ults your team over and over?
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>>580027846
started playing since may, haven't played much during the weekend.
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>>580028349
Don't group up, buy unstoppable
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>it's a "your carry doesn't use their big AOE stun ultimate during a pivot teamfight" episode

bro, press 4. just fucking press 4 wtf are you doing
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You should be able to leave standard without any penalty. The match also should not shut down.
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>>580028526
But if Vyper presses 4 she can't damage the enemy team have you thought about that?
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>>580028526
Every single Infernus player for some reason haves using their ult, its extremely baffling
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Each week we're getting less players on the weekends. I think it's time to play ranked now for easy domination and less retards.
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>>580020970
Viscous is a MAN and he wants to RAWDOG Geist
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>Pre MM Asc 3
>Ritualist after placements because I did it too late
>queue
>get a bunch of dogshit monkeys on my team except for me and my pocket
>2v8 the game
how fucking bad is this dogshit placement system if two asc/phantom players can just take over a lobby?
better question, why ARE we in that lobby in the first place?
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>>580027758
Yes? Obviously?
This is the case in every game.
If you play during the day vs evenings on weekdays, weekdays vs weekends, etc
Are you really telling me you are surprised you get schizos if you look for a game at 3am or something compared to 7pm?

Weekends are the worst because you a lot of weekend warriors who don't play during the week at all and only occasionally on weekends with friends, so you just get a group of people who play like 3 games every couple of weeks and the match quality is awful.
If you ONLY play during weekends then its fine because your rating will reflect that, but if you play during weekdays in the evening AND weekends you will notice that the match quality is a lot worse.

When I was doing shift work I would try to only play during the weekday work hours which had the best quality matches imo
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>>580030301
>time to play ranked now for easy domination and less retards
>>and less retards
lol
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>play mo
>get reactive instead of proactive team
>character is rendered worthless since literally nobody wants to play for picks
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>>580028747
Low prio is its own reward
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>>580030656
Low prio is genuinely account abandoning worthy if you aren't low elo.
it's genuine suffering playing in a lobby with 7 ritualists and randomly scattered oracle-eternus players on top of cheaters.
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>>580030471
>NO VISCOOS
>weeeeeEEEEEEeeeeee...
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>>580028349
unstoppable is the only answer really , especially if you need to fight over the area (eg rift, boss)
>>580030301
actually ONLY retards are still playing this treadmill fake rank bullshit
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Paradox is unironically fucking broken.
Bitch can deal 800 damage with a handful of tier 2 items and spirit burn just by hitting her fully charged 3.

Like not even Vindicta can do that out right dude. Why do the devs hate Vindicta that they give everyone else her kit but better?

>Grey Talon is better
>Paradox is better
>Infernus is better
>Haze is better

its fucking crazy how she gets no buffs and no nerfs and is in the worst state in the game.
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>>580028441
>>580030918
>unstoppable
Yeah but when he teleports in and presses 4 in the same frame it's damn near unreactable
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>>580031001
dude what, she has a snare and her gun gushes out lava if she gets some snipe stacks
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I'M DOING IT
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>>580031102
Just have to do it pre-emptively man. You'll get used to when dynamos like to ult and you can always just pop it when there's a good time to do some damage

It's a strong ability no doubt but it's doable. Plus you probably arent punishing dynamo when he DOESNT have his ult up. I've won several games shotcalling for my team to go fight while dynamo ult is down for 3 minutes you have a lot of time to fuck them up in revenge.
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Checking in?
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>>580031001
It is really bizarre how they always try to keep Vindicta's sniping abilities in check while a bunch of characters like Talon, Paradox and Sinclar are just nuking people across the entire planet unrestrained with a fraction of the CD.
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>>580031410
Vindicta is the most broken version out of all of those right now
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>>580031001
you are fucking terrible if you think vindicta is bad right now she is so oppressive if she gets even the smallest of leads from lane
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Necesitas mucho más que eso para matarme.
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>when the silversissy uses all her abilities to run away
kek
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>>580031517
But not because of her sniping capabilities though, which is what I'm pointing out. It's almost as if they are wary of giving her long range burst damage, maybe because it's hitscan?
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Have you guys seen this streamer eskaay? she looks just like mina its like she was the characters face model
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>>580031517
>>580031627
>>580031108
>conditional ulti that does nothing if your enemy is below half HP
vs
>6 second nuke that has the same range, allows to you to slow your fall and deal a staggering 682+ damage in one shot

Vindicta's ulti at maximum without any items into it deals 235 maximum.
Paradox's 3 at level ONE can easily clear 600 damage without every speccing a point into it.

If you think vindicta is broken because "muh stacks that I need to aim with an ulti that shows them where im aiming, and when im using it all while hoping they get below half HP" then your literally brick elo.
She's in the worst state in this game and isn't even a good DPS.

10% damage dont mean shit because I cant instantly nuke your HP like every other DPS can so whats the fucking point?
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What can be done about the blood tribute, merc mag, swift striker, spiritual overflow combo?
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>>580032686
just turn blood tribute into what it wants to really be, armlet.
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>>580032872
>billy, abrams, mk, SHIV, with armlet of mordiggian

nvm keep it shit
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>>580032686
metal skin
>but the SPIRIT DAMAGE
yes you'll still take 75% less damage and can just run away
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Fury Trance is sleeper overpowered and nobody gives a shit
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I really just want to have a 50/50 winrate. That's how low my expectations have gotten. I did the math on my head and i think i'm at a 20% winrate in ranked. I genuiney just cannot win
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>blue wave prio is pretty much in a neutral state
>rift is spawning
>comeback rift for enemy team + mid boss soon
>our warden wants to bumrush the last enemy shrine during the rift
>it will take way too long
>open mic and say "bad idea they get mid if we die" because we will likely die even if we get the shrine
>he says "you make a good point" and they start leaving
>geist completely ignores the call and overstays
>warden tries to help him
>they both die
>lose mid
>lose the game
can any "use your mic" experts tell me what i could have done differently here?
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>>580033947
Only thing you could've done is say "don't help geist" about 15 times before he turned around which the warden most likely would not have listened to anyway.
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>>580032686
remove merc mag, seriously why does it exist

spiritual overflow should not be giving so much lifesteal
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>>580033947
Told Warden to leave Geist to her fate and then rally for the 5v6? If you want to come up with the Kobayashi Maru for pro-comms guys you really shouldn't leave an easy out
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>>580032465
paradox is broken tho lol
people keep doing garbage builds on her trying to play her as a gun hero and super squishy instead of actually what the heroes kit is obviously designed for
She has 70 less base HP than abrams at max and only starts 60 less than him
Shes obviously meant to be played as a bruiser initiator with the wall, swap, lots of cc from nade, and even carbine.

But people keep trying to play her like a damage dealer despite having shit scaling but great base damages
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>>580033947
Use the mic to call them retards after that
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It took them over half a year to release a ranked system with more gay baby protection shit than marvel rivals and some weird winstreak only bonus rewards

And there was no content between that point either. No heroes, no items, no map changes. What the fuck do they even DO at valve. Retarded lazy devs deserve this game to fail

Gaben should fire and sue them for not working
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>>580033947
>blue wave prio is
you mean blue wave is neutral
why are you adding an extra word for no reason?
Its either pushed in a direction or its not

No wonder people don't listen to you when you add extra fluff words for no reason
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>>580034407
Yeah man we know. Not only we are playing the same game, but you post this every thread.
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>>580033947
Tell Warden to leave Geist. The only solution.
>>580033029
>Cages you
>Now you're slow as fuck
>Rapes you
GG EZ
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>>580034434
That wasnt me , almost like everyone thinks they're pissing away their goodwill
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>>580034410
Wave prio is the colloquial term for a wave being pushed or not pushed in this game lil gup
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>>580025952
And yet hes ascension 2. Curious...
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>>580034547
Or a few dedicated schizos are committed to making sure everyone hears their opinion loud and clear over and over
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>that hero is weak bro, just spend 6.4k souls on a counter item
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>>580034756
at this point you're a schizo if you believe valve works on this game
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>>580034756
To be fair, waiting until December for an item update is absolutely insane and drives people away from the game. The schizophrenia in this thread is warranted at times and I'm convinced Valve is trying to scrap the game but don't know how due to the hype.
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>>580035406
>>580035649
wut
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>>580035649
Good
People shouldn't be treating something they were meant to be testing like a live release where you're spending money and owed content
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>>580035203
why is she wearing human earmuffs
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>>580035894
It's a bridle
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>>580035860
Testing what exactly?
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>consistently parrying the exact frame I punch
>never ever whiffs a single one
but auto parry for light melee isn't real according to the top /dlg/ researchers
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>>580036258
nobody has said that
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>>580035860
We're on the live branch. They have a separate testing server, you are not testing anything.
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>>580034706
>colloquial term for a wave being pushed
No, that is "pushed", which is the colloquial term from creeps being on a certain side.
The fact you need to use term pushed to try to explain it which is already itself slang shows its pointless faggot shit.

Just say pushed and maybe people will listen to you instead of knowing you aren't worth hearing.
>in this game
Nope, it isn't.
idc what schizo game you came from where this is the case.
>lil gup
Says the guy who doesn't even know the term that has been in use for over 20 years.

After all, you are the one complaining people don't listen to your calls LMAO
Never been a problem for me, so maybe actually use the right words instead of inventing schizo shit and people will stop muting you.
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>>580036528
>>580034410
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>>580036563
>noooo use my faggot terms!!!
Yeah I am sure you have excellent first hand knowledge of what is and isn't reddit because you clearly spend a lot of time there.
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>enemy sidelaner keeps running away from me when i push
>get wave prio
>farm his jungle
>all of a sudden now he feels like fighting with his life on the line
>kill his sorry bitch ass
i love sidelane
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>>580036563
>>580036791
Bro this guy's going server admin on them
He's turned god mode on for this map of the series
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All I want is matchmaking that puts 12 people of equal skill in a lobby. How could this possibly be an impossible task for a game developer that's been making games for 30 years?
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>>580037043
If you don't like the terms used feel free to go back to whatever faggot shit you came from.
Or maybe you will just continue getting ignored when you try to speak and keep wondering why that is the case.
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They need to nerf mcginnigger even more every time I have to play against this ugly dyke its utter cancer
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>>580037145
Man this is definitely the strongest guy in the lobby right now
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>>580037101
because the system doesn't account for one of those having a bad day, trying out a shitty new build, or happening to have a hero past 15 wins they haven't touched in months
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>>580036258
Just don't melee until they parry or you have guaranteed setups.
There isn't a single hero who is required to melee, if you leave yourself open to this then its your own fault.

If you really want to fuck over auto parry scripters just heavy melee but don't actually hit them and then you are free to melee them.
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>>580037301
another funny option is intentionally whiffing light melees so they're just auto parrying into nothing constantly
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>>579962453
>GT, miku, haze
Garbage tierlist
>>579958585
Drop miku a few tiers and it would be better
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>>580037265
>if I insult him enough everyone will know I am right!!!!
Yeah sure buddy.
Its pretty clear the moment you got called out for using toonwatch terms you folded because you knew trying to defend that would make it clear how much of whiny bitch you are.
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>>580037101
It's easier to put 1 good player and 5 of the worst, most insecure and malicious subhumans on the planet. See, the average rating is still balanced, so the system works perfectly.
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>late september
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genuinely astonished by bad lash players, I understand you can't win them all but doing bad on the hero that plays itself should give you an award for sucking at the video game.
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>>580037950
Lash is dependent on his teammates being good
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>>580036528
nta but it is
although it is a bit redundant to say "blue wave prio is neutral" instead of "blue wave is neutral"
it's still the colloquial term in deadlock, wave priority is explained on the deadlock wiki and you can see a million pro fags explaining it, and if you want to go on schizo rants about how it must be from a different game i challenge you to find another moba where people say wave prio instead of pushed

and i don't know what that has to do with ingame comms but you're probably a brick faggot anyway if you haven't ever heard of wave prio before now so lmao
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>>580038161
I accept your concession.
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>>580038298
i already accepted yours, too late
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>>580036528
Ranjesh doesn't know what "colloquial" means LMAO
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>>580038161
>it's still the colloquial term in deadlock
It isn't.
>wave priority is explained on the deadlock wiki
Okay, and?
They say lots of retarded shit on there and very often straight up refuse to use the actual in game terms.
This is the same wiki that on its page about terms where what you are describing is on, says that levels is the wrong term and you should use boons, despite level being used in game everywhere?
You think I should listen to this?

Yeah, lets google what its from.
Oh, turns out its a league of faggots term and it doesn't even show in google at all to do with deadlock.
Right.
So not only are you retarded and it absolutely is from a different game, which is why you (we know you are larping after getting btfo'd) used it and were shocked to hear that people just say "push" and used the verb "pushed" when talking about lane state, but its where you learnt it.

>do with ingame comms but you're probably a brick faggot anyway
Because you get ignored by your ingame comms, which is why you posted about it.
I guess league of legends faggots struggle with voice chat because they have no experience with it.

Yeah thanks for outing yourself.
Was a good idea to google it so I knew exactly what type of faggot you are lmao.
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>>580038570
didn't read
it's commonly called prio
spare us the essays and just kill yourself you autistic loner
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>>580038710
>I can't read
I accept your concession.
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the hidden king is so fucking cool
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can't wait for the epically designed new characters
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>>580038570
Tell it like it is
Fuck leaguefags, fuck valorantfags, and most importantly, fuck OWfags
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Calico is disgustingly OP. Extremely strong laning, strong midgame, and despite people saying she falls off, she has no trouble bursting anyone in two combos by lategame. I don't know why people are sleeping on her.
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>>580039197
embarrassing behavior
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are mobas just flawed on a fundamental level?
>assuming a 50% win rate
>25% of the games are such complete losses that most players would prefer to leave before the match is over and try again next game
>25% of the games are such complete wins that you get to have fun at the expense of 6 others wanting to uninstall
>the rest of the 50% of games are so dead even the game gets to a point where both teams are just walking around jungle waiting for someone on the other team to make a mistake to capitalize on and win the game. at that point just flip a coin to see who wins
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>>580039309
Yes, those "people" are all very embarrassing to have around
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>>580039285
she's basically a spirit resist stat checker, I don't have that much problems with her unless she feeds on dumb teammates
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>>580039319
no you can just set arbitrary personal goals like try to contest every midboss, try to get every bridge buff, get all sinners before 10 mins, etc
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>>580039319
just don't solo queue you retard

full stack or don't bother
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>>580039197
>come to other game
>want it to be like game you left
Genuinely they need to go back
They can't comprehend they left these games for a reason and are playing deadlock because it doesn't do the retarded shit the games they left do and they are just shitting up deadlock trying to argue for retarded shit.
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>>580039319
If you aren't winning 75% of your games you are contributing to the other 25% then and its why your losing.
Is chess flawed because the best players don't have a 100% winrate? That white and black aren't even and it naturally shifts winrates by itself let alone player variance?
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>>580039319
No, anon, that's how competing with randos works in ANY game. Not every game is a swing game, it physically cannot be so
It's just how it has to be, so that it can be
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>>580039319
"50% winrate" means the outcome of the game is unpredictable (you are playing at your level)
it doesn't mean a mix of stomps and then the rest are snoozefests, it means the outcome cannot be predicted
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>>580039285
what anon said. calico is a stat check monster. spirit resist is very easy to get compared to bullet, that's why she falls off lategame. if you're building like a retard, she'll keep stat checking you though.
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>>580039285
yeah but she's ugly so I won't play her
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>>580039660
yea, every time I hear some strange dissenting opinion they always bring up league. bro, I don't give a fuck about LoL. their design decisions have been consistently fucking awful for almost two decades now. and now they're dying a quiet death because they can't get new shit out the door. and now I have to side eye OW people because only God knows what dumb crap blizzard has been doing
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>>579975350
Haze secretly has an agenda only for herself to get away from her job
In truth she should be neither flight plan nor master plan, she just wants to sleep for god's sake
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I've been straight pumping it with my paige duo over a discord call...
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>>580039519
Spirit resist never goes above 30% unless you stack a bunch of items which only tanks do. The difference between being nuked for 1000 or 800 is negligible.
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>>580040870
retard
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>>580040928
Concession accepted.
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>>580039623
only faggots do that
>>580039649
my friends are pisslows so any time they play with me they have an awful time cause they have to go against people like 4 ranks higher
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do we have any news on an update or something? i feel weak bros... i dont know if i can handle this patch for much longer...
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>>580039285
Because she's not nearly as good as you think she is, and you'll discover this when you start playing her outside of coonlow
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>>580033947
You went half retard instead of full retard. You're fucking done.
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>>580032462
>she
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>>580039319
Congrats you outgrew competitive games
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>>580039319
>the rest of the 50% of games are so dead even the game gets to a point where both teams are just walking around jungle waiting for someone on the other team to make a mistake to capitalize on

this is why pick and gank heroes exist
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>>580030301
If wins are what you want, then you want MORE retards playing, not less!
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>the only incentive to grind ranked is so you don't get reset even lower next season
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FACT: Getting a high rank affects nothing in your personal life
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>reaching long term goals that make you happy don't affect your personal life
lol
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>200 games on Doorman
>finally surpassed my ivy games played
i've won
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>>580043075
>who cares if you get sent to brick because you didn't play enough
it has nothing to do with stroking my ego with a high rank
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the incentive to grind ranked is to get to play against better people in a serious environment, retard
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i am not.......dying.....here!!!
*dies*
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>Happiness comes from reaching a high rank in a shitty unbalanced video game
Yikesaroonis!
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>>580043329
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IVY DIED SCREAMIN'
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>>580043391
>Pops refresher
MY. TURN.
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>>580043360
believe it not most humans gain happiness from improving at their hobbies
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>>580043310
>the incentive to grind ranked is to get to play against better people in a serious environment, retard
yeah and it takes 300 games every 2 months to get back to where you were, valvetranny.
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>>580043472
well most humans are stupid anyway
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i on yg ain hpiiness from fent therse days
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I might actually get a job. No more high mmr deadlock for me :(
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>>580043532
like your mom, whom i banged
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>>580043310
You shouldn't have to grind ranked just to maintain your rank, retard.
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>>580042823
it's annoying as fuck when the mm gives one team the draft with more pick heroes
like thanks guess we're gonna lose the game unless they're retarded and feed
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>>580043473
>>580043748
apologize to me for being mean for no reason and i might reply to your posts seriously
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Silver would no joke be S+ tier actually if bootkick stopped going through people and prioritised people instead of minions im not joking
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>>580037152
I'm pretty sure they raped grave's skull CD rate so she can't be another mcginnis spambot, i think they either have to reduce the CD rate of the turrets so she can't spam them so easily or nerf them so they don't act like giga rapists with high rate/damage/aim/range, as they are they're way too fucking good for how easy it is for her to just throw them
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I don't want to hear your retarded bullshit, you're a pathetic faggot who you gets assblasted every time someone criticizes this game.
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Invest in Blood Tribute + Berserker Silver you heard it here first bitches
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>>580039319
>are mobas just flawed on a fundamental level?
No.
>25/25
it used to be even worse then that but after the matchmaking update it's now closer to like 10~20% of matches being stomps one way or the other.
>50
I wholeheartedly disagree, close matches are kino and people are actually forced to engage now since urn/rift/mid boss exist, before they added the rift and reworked the urn it was actually like what you say since players had 0 incentive to engage
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>>580044031
im not your boogeyman, but i hope they know you're obsesssed lmao
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>>580044110
I'm investing in Wedding Ring + Wedding Dress Silver
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>lmao
I accept your concession.
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Had the most terrible losing streak yesterday. I didn't even get stomped, my team was actually doing fine at first, trading and shit, but them the enemy started snowballing and won.

I can't even tell what I could have done differently to win, its the worst feeling ever
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Is valve going to abandon this game to cheaters like they did with cs2? That game has spinbotters in it and they barely get banned
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ive never seen a cheater in this game
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>>580044894
autoparry is common, the amount of QOL mod cheaters are probably 30% of anyone above emissary
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>>580044928
ive literally never been autoparried
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>latest update: 15 days ago
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reading reddit threads and they claim viktor is "1:1 with dr mundo"

death to leaguebabs
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>>580044928
compared to literally spinbotting yeah obviously since autoparry has some deniability attached to it but I also don't think I've ran into anyone I have been even 90% sure is autoparrying either.
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Buy Greater Expansion for Silver btw
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>>580045372
We ain't getting a update till the week starting on the 28th btw
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>>580044894
I've run into a few I'm confident are auto parrying, I've ran into a few more that were aim botting on the obvious aim bot characters(haze vinny etc) and i ran into 1 haze that I'm like 99.9% sure was wall hacking.
As for QoL mods I'm pretty sure I've ran into a dozen that could see me from behind cause of their FoV being scaled way back with mods, personally i never added FoV mods cause I'm too lazy, only mods i have are skins mainly for graves, with the mechanic graves skin being KING amongst them
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>>580045441
Why
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>>580045372
>t. the whiniest 40 year old man on the planet
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>>580033947
did she get hyperlined or something? unfortunate
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>>580045372
Late September they're dropping a nuke, which is honestly way better then patch slop since every 5 patches or so we only get like 1 actually good balance batch(the seven/miku nerfs)
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>>580044894
you never coped by telling yourself that the enemy player was cheating?????????????
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>>580045881
Sorry I'm mildly high and forgot to reply to the other part of that post, but I also agree "qol" mods are genuinely cheating. I especially hate the FoV mod because it's ugly but stuff like displaying things the enemies buy when they buy it is genuinely cheating. I don't use any mods because I don't think any of them look good but the most QoL I have is the console command to display stat changes on the left
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>>580045932
But enough about your boyfriend.
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>>580046015
statlocker teammate luck is my new cope
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what if icefrog added counter strike recoil patterns to this game for every character
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>>580046136
Retorts are supposed to make sense unc.
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>>580046050
>stuff like displaying things the enemies buy when they buy it is genuinely cheating.
it was in the base game for awhile idk why threy removed it with OGNB
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>>580043239
i know what you are. doorman and ivy too?
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>>580046215
i would uninstall on the spot because that's a fucking shit idea.
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>>580045431
>>580045181
You can toggle auto parry so they'd have to be retarded to get caught. Just do it in mid boss during one fight and then never again GG
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>>580046215
This game has recoil?
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bootkick goes further
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>behind a wall
>apollos ult still hits me and kills me
these new heroes just suck dude they really do
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>>580046215
>>580046410
it's already in the game, doorman's bell debuff gives recoil to guns temporarily
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>>580047113
recoil is not the same as bullet spread.
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i just tanked my rank by playing silver...
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>managed to carry this somehow
our apollo was literally inting the entire game and trying to 1v6 while being behind, dying, and raging in chat, but realistically their kelvin should have just scaled and BTFOd us
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>>580047414
>apollo built not one but TWO healing items on top of his already 75% lifesteal riposte
>less healing than billy
KEKKKKKK
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>>580047414
>somehow
they had silver they lost from 0:01
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just won a bot match as silver ama
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>>580046410
Only on certain guns, if you hold m1 as vyper for example you'll drift upward.
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>>580047852
yeah I think that's why I find the guns in this game uninteresting, no recoil and the reverb isnt satisfying like in tarkov

spirit characters are fun though
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>>580046410
Pocket has the worst recoil in this game, but that's not really saying anything because recoil is VERY minimal. It's there though.
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Buy greater expansion on Venator
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/dlg/ meetup
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>>580048192
That seven looks sick
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>>580047595
i think he was genuinely trying to lose the game after he lost lane but he couldn't throw hard enough
>>580047704
she was GIGA fed though (for obvious reasons)
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>>580048192
doorman's contacts at bottom left are genuinely creepy
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>>580048192
>shopkeeper has a hitler stache
what did he mean by this
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>>580046323
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>>580048192
do you think that billy cosplayer would let me hit while he's still wearing the head...
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>>580049091
vyper...
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>wardogs beta over so I have to play this poop shit game instead
AIIIIYYYYEEEE TEAM 17 SAVE ME
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>wraith when she's on the enemy team
>she'll get fed before 10 minutes guaranteed
>wraith when she's on my team
>gets killed 5 times before 10 minutes
random mhm
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>>580049559
why not just play one of the other 573426436 battlefield clones
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>>580049702
Ah but this one has 3 teams. And a retarded metaprogression system to make it even more unbalanced.
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>>580049702
it feels like arma but not as autistic and the gunplay/base building makes it more interesting than bf6. battlebit is dead. most bf clones suck. mainline bf has retarded things like 'sweet spots' for snipers to make them braindead body shot machines and they have to balance this by making snipers all have this stupid glare. it feels like an actual progression on the battlefield formula. something EA should have launched with but didn't. they fumbled and this feels like the best hope for that type of game. there's no retarded combat sliding. there's no gun that just feels retarded OP that's in 99% of loadouts. the whole economy system it has in place heavily incentivizes being a team player. like you only get medic xp from healing and reviving others. and usually whatever money you spent doing those things for others gets rewarded twice over. it's really just set up to encourage team player better than any other bf clone can hope for.
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>>580049871
>fag buys t4 armor
>shoot him in the legs and he will die in 0.5s anyways
also are we really pretending like battlefield games haven't always had meta progression systems that quite obviously offer better weapons the more you play? they fucking invented that shit.
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>>580049702
>573426436 battlefield clones
if only this were true
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>>580049989
Isn't the idea of cloning a game that you remove that stupid ideas and iterate on the good parts?
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>>580048192
Not bad. That picture is decent. Usually, these group photos in cons are full of people who look like they've never seen a deodorant in their life.
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>>580048261
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>>580050560
3d printing sure has made cosplay easy these days.
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>>580048192
who tf is this meant to be?
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>playing wraith in standard to unlock her just so i can metacuck
>actually ended up liking her gameplay
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>580050935
MOMO! DON'T BACK DOWN!
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>>580050935
it's mo with krill's face
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>>580015775
You know ball my nigger, demons denying their fiendish blood to fight for humanity are a badass character archetype. Even better if they have the attitude of Uncle Ruckus towards it.
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>>580050935
gay nigga
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>>580038067
Not really, he gets more value from his ult if his team helps but on his own his usual combo is strong, plus he gets free movment
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I just played a 75 minute game of deadlock
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>>580050082
People would hop into a bf clone with no progression, try a few guns out and turn the game off within an hour and never touch it again. That's just how modern gamers are. If they don't feel validated for investing time into a game they don't give a shit.

Ranked modes, arena rating etc are just another form of metaprogression to people. Even skins are. I guarantee you TF2 would've been dead in a ditch by 2009 if they'd just never released hats. You could see how dog shit CSGO was doing when it had no skins. It took skins for that game to boom. Can you honestly blame developers for trying to keep their players engaged?

Game development has evolved in the past 3 decades. Hopping on some bog standard shooter with like 6 guns in it just doesn't fly any more. I played return to castle wolfenstein multiplayer last night. It's fun for an hour. But you wouldn't put hundreds and thousands of hours into a game like that now. In a word, they're shallow.
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>>580051949
I once like a 70 minute game as dynamo when all 12 players would just buy soul rebirth. Actually the most terrible game I've played in 3k hours.
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>>580051949
well, did you win at least?
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>wings of whatever
>prism blast
can we PLEASE remove these from street brawl
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>>580052060
>comparing skins to grind shit that lets you win easier
Get a grip bro
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>>580052230
yes
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>>580051202
>>580051241
holy shit I didn't even think of no and skill
I thought he was just a really bad lash or something
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rank 1 in the world lomein has 27k rank points, nearly 10k higher than rank 3 and he only solo queues
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>>580052683
Why the fuck do I keep seeing this faggots tweets
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>>580052654
what's going on with that name censor it looks like some super early AI gen
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>>580052280
also enhanced rescue beam
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can you indom paradox ult
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>>580052849
Paint does it
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>>580052928
Indom blocks chains. Stuff like swap, hooks, chain gang, vortex web all seem to count as this and get blocked. Most displacement is blocked. Uppercut seems to be an exception. There's absolutely nothing stopping the paradox just buying like silence wave and shredding it before a swap though. It's kinda vulnerable in that aspect. I would say unstoppable is still a better item and you'd only really go indomitable if you were stacking it on top of unstoppable or you were slot locked with 4 other actives you need and you wanted a safety net on top of that.
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start buying TRANS cooldown on silver
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>>580053473
I've started seeing dynamo players just straight up fucking rush transcendant cooldown and indomitable so they completely minimise their ult downtime.
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Stop picking Silver.
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Boy I can't wait to rank up with this long win streak
>The guy on my team next game playing silver going 0/6
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>>580053645
I respect the man picking a bottom tier hero and going 0/6 rather than a boosted meta slave picking the most OP (Celeste, Lash, Warden) heroes and expecting free wins
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>>580053545
Kek I do that
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>>580053545
Where are you seeing these ultbot Dynamo players? Whenever I get matched with one it's a stomptard
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>>580053907
high mmr russians. it's like one of the few things they do well is ult bot dynamo.
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I love when a build just isn't thought through and the guy just throws a bunch of items at the bottom and is like "also pick up this 5th item on top of items I've declared as core"
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>>580053545
That’s retarded, superior cd to trans cd is 3200 for 5%(even less after stacking it)
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>>580053895
Does this work? I'm tempted
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>>580054643
Trans CD gives you item CD for your unstop, and you bait people into triggering your unstop for free CDR.
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>>580054715
That’s not rushing it tho as the the guy mentioned

It’s fine after you get actives
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>>580054715
Sorry indom not unstop.
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I love mcginnis!
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dazzling sex with the dazzling celeste
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>Redditors are STILL mindbroken by Graves
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>580053567
this. dont do it bwos...
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>>580053645
I had a guy on my team playing Holliday rushing Ricochet in lane and going 0/8.
Whoever says 50/50 agents aren't real is lying.
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>>580013907
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>>580055056
gamers as a whole were so mindbroken by moira and brigitte (to an extent) that any time there's a lockon weapon everyone flips their shit even if it only does like two dps and has the same range as a prostate exam
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>>580055249
Trannies wish they looked this good
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>in EU lobby
>people are extremely melty prone and talk shit amongst each other, no communication otherwise
>in NA lobby
>people are generally nicer and communicate very often
what causes this?
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>>580055249
now these are cheats i would use
>>580055305
i've never played dota so every time i see this character i keep thinking it's jaina from heroes of the storm
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>>580055056
Unironically her best counter is mirage with return fire
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>>580055249
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>>580055249
>>580055446
now remove the tattoos
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>>580055340
In EU we all hate eachother, in NA they just hate niggers
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>>580054789
it effects indom too. you can literally proc indom from zipline knockdown (you still fall off zipline you just don't get stunned). you can proc it by intentionally meleeing into a parry. it's very abuseable. I see the vision.
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>>580055305
most of her kit is already in, nova is an aoe slow and damage, which is covered by kevin's grenade, point-n-click instant stun probably not good for the game (looking at you wraith), freezing field is basically seven's ult, and mana regen aura is useless in a game without mana
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>>580055765
add mana
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>>580013907
Hoodwink but she doesn't need a reskin
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>>580055056
Don't care. Buff her.
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Oh yeah Shiv is IT! Once I fully grasp his M2 movement ill be climbing non-stop!
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>>580055765
global cdr aura while alive
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>>580055765
>point-n-click instant stun probably not good for the game (looking at you wraith)
don't care it's funny and I want to make people rage quit in bricklow lobbies after spamming the bimbo laugh
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>shiv has 4 stamina
>graves only has 2
hello?
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>>580055841
I've sundered disco ball
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>>580045918
>more range on both dashes
>more range on bite
>more area on tail swipe
It's fun
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Buy all duration extending items on Billy
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>>580055308
>mindbroken by the 2 heroes that killed the game
understandable
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>>580055841
add a migger whose passive makes your cool downs go up
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add a migger whose gun auto locks on from a mile away give these faggots something to cry about
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add aim assist to the game for controllers
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>>580054693
Yes but I don't play him a lot results may very if he's your main.
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>>580055446
>>580055249
link?
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>>580055308
>gamers as a whole were so mindbroken by moira and brigitte
Who?
No one knows who they are.
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>>580055308
>gamers as a whole were so mindbroken by moira and brigitte
I understand because I've heard of it in, but "gamers as a whole" is an absurd exaggeration. I don't think anybody cared, the OW boom was already dead when this was happening.
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>>580058391
"gamers as a whole" is probably an exaggeration yeah i'll concede
i guess i moreso meant in the shooter scene in general, people fixate so hard on anything that auto aims and point to that in every argument
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>>580055340
In EU they're dealing with slavnigs, indians, arab retards. It's literally exhausting to them and their mental is in the shit because of it so they become prone to just losing their shit. I do communicate often myself and sometimes other people are encouraged by this and do the same but I'm at ascendant 2 so idk if this extends to lower ranks.
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>>580056174
?
it's more like he has infinite stamina with alt cast and can also dash + ult to run away.
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>>580056174
>graves
>mobility is intentionally gated due to reinforce the 'zoning' nature of her kit
>shiv
>mobility is the kit
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>due to reinforce
fuck
"due to the nature of her kit" became "to reinforce the zoning nature of her kit"
but i left the due....
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lets be totally honest here characters having 2 or 3 stamina is completely random has nothing to do with le mobility or whatever the fuck
>wraith has a lane wide teleport
>3 stamina
>dynamo's 3 allows him to move super fast + he can teleport through walls
>3 stamina
>kelvin can ice path
>3 stamina
>lash can use his two to fly across the map
>3 stamina
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>>580059324
Its even more confusing on heroes like Silver or paige before she got buffed to 3 stam
Like what is the logic here.
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>>580059324
I have no idea who you think was saying that stamina cap is linked to mobility.
For example graves has zero mobility and is 2 stam, ivy has good mobility and is 4 stam.
It's strictly a balance and hero personality affair
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>>580059324
> an old ass Indian with a bow
4 stamina
>A ghost
2 stamina
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>>580060215
Vindicta is a fat ass ghost that just floats everywhere. Gray Talon has been extremely physically active his entire life, even now when he's a grandpa. It makes sense.
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>>580057979
https://gamebanana.com/mods/714301
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>>580038161
>pic
isn't this the same faggot who jobbed to graves skulls cause he can't melee?
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>>580059324
i think there's some logic to it. here let me devil's advocate
we can assume 3 stamina is simply the default, and then look at 2-stam characters as intentionally kneecapped and 4-stam characters as deliberately enhanced
of the six 2-stam characters,
>graves
kneecapped to limit her ability to run you down and "enforce" her identity a bit harder
>mcginnis
same reasons as graves
>silver
uhh... perhaps it's to intentionally limit her target access? or maybe it's to prevent her from being too 'sticky' in wolf form, giving your opponents a chance to escape if you fuck up your cooldowns and stam usage
>mina
the price of having iframes on bats
>vindicta
similar to graves/mcginnis, but from the angle that she's the sniper character, who should be particularly vulnerable when not in flight. don't ask about gray talon though.
>holliday
now this is the weird one because i want to say le bounce pads le air control but celeste exists. with 4 stam, even. holliday DOES have one of the highest base walking speeds though (8.2m/s vs the average 7), while celeste has the absolute worst (6.2m/s), but uh, i don't know. there's also the point that holliday always wants to buy stam mastery and maybe 5 stam + 20 bounce pads would be too much? but again, celeste. it's an odd one
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Invisibility is too OP for a mere 3,200 souls on any characters. Prove me wrong
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>>580061690
you're right, a round of nerfs for Shadow weave are in order!
>>580061848
who fucking fed victor
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>>580062521
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>>580062521
>>580062521
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>>580055763
I know it affects indom it’s still not worth until later with more targets



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