>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>580062521
is the game actually fun anymore or nahbeen debating whether or not I should come back to it after I left during the urn changes
Dead game
>>580147941ong frfr it's ok but it's no league of mutha heckin' legends time to return to summoner's rift y'all
The sheer ego of retards in /dlg/ is something I've never seen from neither dotards or lolfagsNot only not conceding their argument but continuing to spout factually wrong statements or entirely faulty logic
>>580148072
>>580147941Yeah the urn changes resulted in them adding a new objective. Urn and the new objective has put the game state in a much better place now.
nerf silver
>>580147941ask again in october when they patch the game for once, they literally have changed nothing in about a year
>figured out how to flame the enemy team in voice chat at the end of the gamei have achieved nirvana
>>580148397
>>580148114>>580148464thought this was king viscous at first
I know things only SOME people know about. But I can't tell you.
>>580148545>t. vaguepost king
who wants to see a goo fist
>>580148464you can swap teams at the end of the round, and basically invade their VC during the last few seconds of the matchenjoy it while it lasts lol
I know a secret Silver build...that'll give her a 80% winrate...hmm its still in the works but it'll be big...maybe
>>580147941yeah but dont play ranked until they change the godawful system
>>580148647but I cant tell you.
i like pocket i dont understand why people hate him so much :( affliction isnt even that bad
>>580148839lane rapist
I think I should stop playing haze
>>580146121I won bros!3-0 today!It was a long one because my didn't want to ever push and I had 3 egg-tards but we got there in the end....
>>580148942can somebody share their secrets on how i should play her not build but more playstyle. When is she strong in the game? How do I lane? How to play teamfights etc. I feel like she is way to squishy to be effective in big teamfights idk i struggle with having impact
>>580148971oops I meant 4-0!it was a good day
>>580149021She is a pick assassinYou are meant to rape people from invis
I asked chat gpt and they said deadlock has a 15-25% chance of being cancelled. If the beta they release in september isnt enough players they might kill it instantly like artifact. Or treat it like dota underlords and just barely work on it (like it is now?)
Headshot booster and the like should be applicable on every shotgun pellet again imo
>>580149493...and other quotes to expose yourself for being a newfag!
>>580149021There is a reason why she gets curse. You jump people and kill them when they can't defend themselves because they are cursed->slept.Basically, be invisible, run up, curse, srack up fixitude, chain cc with sleep dagger, kill secure with ult if necessary.Basic gameplay loop is that you wanna get a crucial pick post-20 mins and then call midboss.
Just trying to have some fun with a silly GT build only to be forced to sit though 40+ minutes of a giga fed Geist farming the lobby all thanks to my lane partner Warden dying off cooldown LITERALLY 3 SECONDS AFTER JUMPING OFF ZIPLINE, and there wasn't fucking ANYTHING I could do about it, just got bullied all game by the Geist and the Rem who lodged themselves up her ass all game and stole all the farm, NEXT GAME, I just get tortured by a fucking drifter all game who'd hunt me down across the entire map just to kill ME, SPECIFICALLY, not to mention the broken ass WRAITH who would ult me EVERY FUCKING MINUTE and kill me because it locks stamina for SOME REASON, THAT SHIT NEEDS TO GO and later I manage to hit a bird on drifter that should've executed him BUT IT DIDN'T BECAUSE FUCK ME I GUESS and 80% of the Tome when I use the stupid thing it just commits seppuku on some random INVISIBLE WALL or just refuses to turn the corner and it whiffs, try and hit the rem on the zip line and it PHASES THROUGH HIMLITERALLY NOTHING I DO MATTERS I LOSE NO MATTER WHAT BECAUSE THE SLIGHTEST LEAD MEANS GG, CAN'T JUST TRY OUT A NEW CHARACTER AND HAVE FUN, GOTTA GIGA SWEAT EVERY GAME. GREAT GAME DESIGN MAN, SERIOUSLY. FUCK YOU YOSHI. FUCK YOU
>>580149646I played since 2024. I think they should revert the 2025 change. It is ok that some items are better based on your gun spread. Headshot booster is already unfair because if favors heroes with a high firerate and moderate bloom atm.
>>580149908express shot/velocity booster should still be solid pickups for shotgun heroes iirc, I used to pick it all the time when gun abrams was stronger
>>580149972Oh, they are ok. I just think the concept of a magic pellet is lame from a game design point of view.
>>580148839>Hits 1>spazzes out throwing all his buttons at you>Kills you>This is fair and balanced
why do i get matched with people who barely know how to play the game in unranked when they all have 500+ hoursi dont fucking get iti dont care if you have 2 wins on your hero you're literally running around doing fucking nothing you're a fucking BOT
>>580149306they like the core idea enough to overhaul the lore and art direction, it's not going to vanish.
>>580150250this dude is sitting on egg 35 min into the game just perma farming never shows up to anythingnever reacts to gos just sits there like a retard i dont fukcing understand how you can spend this much time in a game and be this fucking terribleno fucking joke he has 28% win in ranked too thank fucking god but he should be seeker mmr at best
>>580150228while being untargetablewhile having a blink that he can use while untargetablewhile having a top 5 team fighting ultwhile said ult turns off characters like Rem/Dashfernus/Shivetc etc
forgot to turn my autoparry off
>>580150335Is this NA? If it isn't then this person has a doppleganger. I've played with a Geist who bought egg and never did shit, and we lost the game in 28 minutes lol.
>>580150335>>580150250insane pedo behavior
>>580150412>calling everyone you don't like a pedoYou have to be 18 to post here.>crawling through a teammate's statlocker after a loss, rather than just moving the fuck on with your daySheer autism
>>580149021stealth to get into position (and abuse T3's 50% bullet lifesteal + cleanse on cast)sleep dagger people to set up the pickthen capacitor and ult (optional) to kill them. sometimes you buy silence wave so they're giga helpless. sometimes you buy curse if your DPS is high enough to secure the pick despite the -25% damage penaltyoutside of that though you're still an M1 carry. so stay alive and shoot people. use your stealth and sleep dagger to maneuver around fights and set yourself up to shoot the priority targets. assassin-carry. move like a scalpelin lane, constantly try to harass the enemy. keep refreshing and stacking fixation on who you can and when it gets high, commit to trades on themshove and roam if you see a decent opportunity but otherwise it's survive and farm to scalealso your ult is not an AoE. the targeting is AoE, you still only shoot one bullet at a time. so keep just one guy in your cone or you lose lethality/DPS
>>580150484The only time I have every personally statlockered anyone was this shit eating graves who died 21 fucking times in an Oracle lobby during a match that only lasted 32 minutes.I had to know if this person was throwing on purpose of if they played the game drunk.
What should Wraith be doing in the midgame if all the walkers are being defended by at least one enemy and all the safe farm has been picked up? Do I need to learn optimal box routes to get the most out of her in deadlocked games, do I start roaming for ganks and only return to the lane when the waves are pushed closer to my walker? She's easy to play when the rest of my team is doing well or when the enemy team has bad macro and lets me rat a walker or two, but I struggle to get a game plan in neutral or disadvantaged matches. This is in bronze and I only just got enough casual wins with Wraith to queue as her in ranked
>>580150752Shiv acquired the mandate of heaven, clearly.
>>580150484t. pedo
>>580150982It crashes the game, someone ITT said it happen to them earlier
>>580150484uh oh, pedo melty!!!
>>580151117unironically would just afk on sight. enjoy your 5v6
>>580151156huh, neat I guess. I wonder, does it crash the senders game as well?
>>580150752junior has eyes but can't recognize mt tai
I only play street brawl now
rem fights like a man possessed!
>>580152759is this archmother or hidden king? that's a child they're glazing lmao
>>580153290we dont know if rem is actually a child
>>580153360this retard doesn't even listen to conversation dialog
finally
>>580154606You are proof why rank shields shouldn't exist.
>>580154606>lose 5 games in a row>only at -100>if he wins one more he's at +200>2-5 makes you positive SRthis games rank system is really good actuallyit's not the literal worst ranking system on the market actaullyit's not a terrible system that does nothing for actually good players and rewards people who are bad but can spam 200 games a season.
>>580155116bro your yard is being taken over by nature you are about to be eaten by plants
>>580155116Matchmaking is dogshit, it's their way of offsetting that.
>>>580132564I think you still need a reply because I don't want this thread to fall victim to the same fate as DB games general.(2 autists fighting for literally 700 replies in a row about lore in a games thread making the entire thread unusable)I wanted to just let you go without one because it's been obvious what you're doing for a few replies now, but I want to ask you one last time.Why are you still arguing that the definition of a commonly used phrase is different from what it really is? If it ever anywhere was what you're suggesting, then it wouldn't have ever been used at all even one time. I don't think you understand just how ridiculous your idea is.Besides, you're writing messages in which every 2nd point discredits the entirety of your message. That's not good trolling. That's low quality bait and I only fell for it because it was 4 hours past midnight and I desperately needed sleep.Please do not make this thread even more autistically retarded. We do not need people to make long ass message chains about nothing.I'm not going to reply to you anymore, not because I hate you but because this is pure autistic off-topic. Please respect the thread.
>>580155280I accept your concession.
>>580155280Fair enough.
icefrog updating the game is like a nicotine hit but way longer
>>580155280this nigga always posts how "oh i didnt realize you were trolling"maybe it's time you stop replying if youre just going to claim that every time someone disagrees with you
>>580156604he's 100% correct
>>580156604He's correct but a drifter player saying that is funny when they're equally bad.
you guys think they'll remove the change team endgame thing?it's kinda fuckin funny
>>580156561I'm baffled by the "always". All people are one person. Thread only ever had 3 users. 100%.
>>580156740by full release or before then if people complain enough, so don't abuse it too much.
>>580156740haven't seen anyone do it yet.
>>580149306>beta in septemberLMAO
pve and remodels in february
>>580150014the only one I have issue with is calico because they ruined her donut-shaped spreadit was funny to have a hero that could do less damage if they aimed for the head
>>580157682>it was funny to have a hero that could do less damage if they aimed for the headwraith (cards go over the enemy if you aim at the head)
>>580155641you ever shoot nicotine straight into your ballsack
>>580157560ranked TODAY is called beta season 1 :^)
>>580156604He didn't add Wraith and Dynamo in there so he's wrong
>>580158163ranked beta = beta (for the ranked mode)
>>580147883>Remhttps://youtube.com/shorts/sMWbgYt1IJQ?si=baOZ-Y4vr-2oYZxA
>Standard>Solo queue>pick low pickrate heroes only>mute self>mute teammates>mute everything except pings and barksYep, it's Deadlock time! >"What's the plan"?
>>580156643>>580156672>>580158368It was a Foid. They spoke on mic.
>>580158881so? fuck wraith and dynamo players
>>580158881Let me guess, a mentally ill russian woman?
>>580158990Agreed.
>>580159098Russians are only matched with Russians, idiot. They are contained. What you're encountering is either ukrainians, Belarusian, polacks or some other resort of slav
>>580149306>I asked chat gpt
dear americans, you are truely the niggers of the whites, please get the fuck away from OCE servers. noone wants you here, especially the troon celeste main rejects that you are sending. i now understand why your country won't provide healthcare or education, as it would be tantamount to spending billions dollars on apes with down syndrome.best regards,a concerned OCE citizen.
>>580158459>"glizzys"utter faggot speak
>>580159615Nice bait but everyone knows OCE players don't exist.
>>580158832Why would you play solo queue any other way? Way too many mentally ill people play this game. I'd rather lose than listen to asylum patients babble
I tried playing Bebop as hook + debuff bot, it seems to be the only viable way to play him. Stack a bunch of M1 debuff items plus slowing hex and curse, decay if they have a tanky hero.
>>580159615shut the fuck up irrelevant retardyou're more concerned about american politics than your own country's. Fucking pathetic desu.
>>580159615Based beyond belief
>>580159615>>580159879nice try samefag
Some characters are just busted huh? Been trying to learn new characters for ranked unlocks, and have been enjoying Drifter when at first I hated his ass (and still hate fighting against him). But he's just so easy to play. You face fuck the enemy and you win, it's incredibly simple. You prevent people from running away easily because you either: run faster than them, deal damage to them so fast they can't even survive, silence them with your 1, or just slap them with an item anyway. I wouldn't even say he's overpowered in the traditional sense but he's just so easy to rip your enemies apart with.I wouldn't even say I'm a great player or anything but it's laughable how broken some of these characters are while others you must play 2-3x as well just to do half of what they do. Have MOBAs always been like this?
Why do people with mics only use them to bitch?>have plan, want to fight>run in, don't even ping, just run in and die>then bitch that your team couldn't read your mindjust fucking say something?
here's your haze for your ranked game!!!
>>580159803this nigga mad because im not ODing on fentanyl while i play
>>580160025>nigga!!don't make me post the blackface again
>>580159982First time playing online video games?
>>580159986It's >>580154606
>>580159986>3 kills>16k damage>glass cannon
I can't wait for the update to barely change anything but make it worse
>>580159982vidya is an introvert hobby
>>580159982>guy on microphone screaming "MID MID MID MID MID MID MID MID MID" as the enemy is doing it dont know what the fuck he means if he means they're taking it or what>no one else does either>what he meant was he was GOING to mid and not 'they were taking mid'how hard is it to say 'let's go to mid?' theres a reason why the characters themselves say 'lets take mid or lets go mid' instead of 'mid'
Deadlock shouldn't have been a shooter game.
>>580160667IN MID!!!!!!
>>580160667he thought he wasn't playing with noobs.
>>580160614dude, I know. I don't use coms that much and people yell at me like "WHY ARE YOU COMMING. WHY AREN'T YOU SHOT CALLING." Like, because nobody will listen to me anyway unless I'm le charismatic and charming and funny? Just like real life? Gosh golly gee willikers it's almost like video games are my escape from that exact thing.
>>580160835I'm autistic as fuck and I shotcall. Just be assertive
>>580160835you're very charming
>>580155280>everyone I disagree with is trolling>people keep calling me out on saying the wrong thingHave you ever considered if this keep happening to you then its you at fault?Maybe stop saying retarded shit you don't understand the meaning of?idk why you made a post that is just repeating the words "I am a retarded bricklow player" but I think I managed to intuit the meaning of your retardation, I am somewhat of a retard whisperer myself. Maybe you should actually use the correct words you mean next time.I accept your concession
>>580160667why would the enemy go mid when they only have 2 players? either situation also needs you to go mid anyway so it doesn't matter what he really means
>>580160914pic related>>580160921pls be cute girl
>>580160835>nobody will listen to me anywayAw shucks *kicks can* nobody cares about my comms *sniffle* I'll be oracle forever...
>>580160835every le epic shotcaller is some autistic mouth breather talking through gritted teeth because every moment spent not shouting slurs is torture for him but he thinks he's the king of shit mountain who is god's gift to man, women, and fish so he's the only one who can drag his team to victoryyou can do it
>>580147941The game is fun if you play brawlRetarded shit like "laning" "jungling" "ganking" or "itemization" is a chore to do, MOBAplayers are mentally illBrawl is fun since all you do is hit buttons
>>580161081its true man I don't even want to partake in le epin bantz. I get enough of that from real life.>>580161096ty
are these fucking queers really running stretched res is fucking deadlock lol
>>580161505it was dumb and complete nonsense in counter-strike so i'm not surprised it somehow carried over here.
>>580160835This is a foid post.
>>580160694>>580020014
>>580161505>>580161692videogames were a mistake
>>580161218>overcuck tries to play a mobalmaogo back to playing shooters if you don't like the genre you apparently like, this is what a hero shooter is, a mix of moba and shooter.
>>580161768yes yes you're gigachad mr. outgoing extrovert very cool
>>580161019what? the enemy team were all alive they were taking mid
>>580161825it was a compliment, baka
>not being a shotcallercan tell you guys dont have the keys. put some work in
>>580161692BUT IT MAKES THE HEADS WIDER DUDE
>>580161932stop hitting on me
>Call out 5 people in one lane>The other lanes keep farming
>>580161780for a game with a million players the general is slower than xivg surprisingly
>>580162169what do you expect them to do? un-rape you?
>>580162652Push the walker you dumb nigger
>>580162771Can't, a single graves pressed 4 there.
Why does apollo triple charge have such shit scaling?Even the 5 point upgrade only increases the max charge scaling, all his scalings are so fucking bad
>>580162916>can't because graves gave me extra farm and reason to defend the tower>and if i dislike it i can heavy melee the gravestone>unfortunately my brain is too smooth to know how the parry bait game works around gravestone>so ill just cry on my taiwanese knitting forum's section for videogames
>>580162984It’s literally one of the highest scaling modifiers in the game BUT I agree in the sense that it’s bait, it takes too long and is too predictable timing Leave it un-upgraded and just spam it fast to get vertical
>>580163439>YOU'RE CRYING>YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO HEAVY MELEE>SMOOTH BRAIN SMOOTH BRAIN SMOOTHUhhhhh you're the one crying about being ganked by five people, dude? I'm enjoying my farm.
>>580163535i'm not even the person you were responding to broham, just pointing out your retardation with pulling the "BUT GRAVES EXISTS IN THIS GAME AND SHE'S OP TO ME" crying.i s2g every one of you morons that bitch and cry have to always have a "but wait, if there's this hero in the game and they have these items and the wifi vibrator in their ass is connected to zerggy sending them signals about how to play perfectly, then ill always lose? DONT YOU SEE? IM RIGHT"get back to your knitting already son.
>>580161505>>580161692I wouldn't be suprised if stretched res is actively detrimental in Deadlock since the hardest parts of aiming is hitting people in the air.Stretched res "works" in tac shooters since you don't need to aim up or down.
>>580163671>i'm not even the person you were responding to >just pointing outSo you were the person I was responding to?
>>580163782It doesn’t work in tac shooters lol
>>580163895tell yourself whatever you want if it makes you stop crying on my knitting forum.
>>580163895No that was me, I simply ignored your nigger tier bait.
>>580164349>>>580163895 (You)So you took the bait?
>>580164003Hence the "air quotes" lmao
Imagine thinking rank actually matters or says anything about the player's skill when you're not playing 1v1 and can't control what other 11 faggots do.
>>580164408what gauge of yarn if your favorite to knit with anon?
>>580164536It USED to matter because being able to triumph in spite of what 11 other faggots do was impressiveNow it's nothing more than a matter of persistence with all the protection you get. The only conclusion that can be reliably made with rankings now is that if you're still low rank you're pathetic
>>580147941nah too many elo landmines. you literally will queue into games at ascendant where your team is full of 45% winrate solo queues and the enemy team is 60-70% winrate duos and your team gets absolutely fucking obliterated and there's literally nothing to do on the map. like ACTUALLY nothing. go jungle, ganked, go rift, no one else turns up, go urn, no one else turns up, mid contest? your team just keeps jungling. it's the lowest quality matches I've ever seen and I've been playing since the start of june 2024. your fun and engagement with this game is entirely decided by a coin flip. you either get the worst fucking team imaginable and get raped for 25 minutes and lose or you get the best team ever and you do exactly that to a bunch of clueless bums. maybe 1 in 5 games are actually balanced and the rest are just that. it's so fucking dog shit. no one on eu knows how to play from behind so they just go 0-4 in lane and then run it down blue hoping for comeback gold or something???
>>580164686>your fun and engagement with this game is entirely decided by a coin flipso its just like every other moba out there? perfect, im sold.
>>5801634521.0 at max? It really isn'tI understand you mean that if you cast it all 3 times its effectively x3.0 scaling, but it isn't that simple.
>>580164825I'm quitting this dog shit to go play wardogs on thursday and I'll keep playing that until gw3 comes out
>>580164686Shit like this is why I gave up climbing after reaching phantom 2 with a 70% winrate, sure I'm winning but losing when you have elo landmines on your team is so fucking infuriating that it reverses any joy I feel from the game.The meta is retarded as well, somehow warden is even WORSE than wraith in terms of braindead gameplay.Forcing myself to play singleplayers and praying the patch comes early.
>>580165070its 1.8 actually so its x5.4
>>580164686So what you are saying is that you got a sub 40% winrate, but you aren't like the other landmines?
>>580164669Your rank never mattered and doesn't matter now and will never matter.Way too many variables out of your control for pure skill measuring. Quake 1v1 or fighting games are the only places where you can measure the rank
>>580165110yeah like it's not even losing that pisses me off. obviously I'm a competitive person at heart and I want to try and win and improve and come across more challenging enemies and all that. I'm disappointed when I lose. like anyone should be. no what pisses me off is games that are just straight up unwinnable. like your team is full of retarded monkeys that don't speak english. they flame eachother in their native tongue. they suck shit at everything and listen to none of your call outs. no awareness, no aim, no build sense, no macro sense. like actually ZERO redeeming qualities about these players and they presume to talk shit about your support build full of utility like claiming it's 'useless' to be applying slowing hexes and curses. absolute fucking retarded morons. this is all while they go like 0-8-0 on wraith btw. you look up their statlocker and they got boosted to this rank on that braindead mindless character and now they're on a 9 loss streak and you're expected to support this retard. and the best part is they're so fucking braindead in terms of playing the map that they sit wondering why everyone else doesn't just hit 50k networth on gun builds like they do. then they'd win for sure! they're too fucking retarded to get that there's an economy and limited resources on the map and that comes into consideration when you are making a build. supports in pro games have to build economical builds that do everything they want it to do by like 25k networth. but these retards don't get that. they think you're just shit because you've left them solo waves, sinners and jungle to absorb so they can scale harder than anyone else in the match. it's mind boggling. I've never ranted this much but after 3k hours I'm up to fucking here.
>>580165251nah I am barely maintaining like 54% winrate because so many times you get into a game and it's just the most retarded non sense waste of time ever. yoshi should feel ashamed for putting out this patch. this is like 10x worse than pre-patch mm.
>>580165606Just force yourself to take a break until patch my friend, its what I'm doing and am happy for itNeed good singleplayer games suggestions since I'm drawing blanks, nothing good recently.
>>580165092unironically agreed. unless the deadlock october patch somehow lives up to the hype, ill be flyin around in wardogs hotdropping 6man teams or emegency ammo/meds in the hotzone til my eyes bleed.
>>580165739I started reading
I'm starting to think arabs are even bigger pieces of shit than russiansban everyone from eu servers
>>580165606...so basically you suck at farming, was 10k behind the enemy team supports and decided that the most productive thing you could do to win the game was to get into an argument with the second worst player on your team?Man I fucking hate having to carry idiots like this
>>580164408>>580165251>>580165835You really suck at this
>>580165739literally just go emulate ps2 platformers. sly cooper, ratchet and clank, crash bandicoot, spyro, jak & daxter, ape escape.
>>580165902it says it all when baiting people on dlg is a more fruitful experience than playing this dog shit game. he's just proving my point.
>>580165092>>580165251>>580165794>>580166061Obsessed.
>>580165902i miss when b8 used to be believable instead of redditors larping as trolls on my knitting forum.
>>580165820slavs in general are basically non white in terms of attitude/behaviour.
>>580165767the october patch is just gonna be at best some reskins and hotpoo's risk of rain 3 deadlock edition with extra circle camping. it's going to be putrid dog shit.
I've noticed a trend among content creators which is likely true of its playerbase;There are fighting game players here.
>>580165247Oh you are right, I was looking at the max hold scaling not the perfect scaling.Even stranger how hard he falls off thenThe hero is so strange to me.
>>580166263look, you're probably not wrong, but making wild assumptions just makes you look like a faggot. we dont have to wait long to be disappointed, dont hype yourself up in the anti-hope, otherwise you might be anti-disappointed and find yourself enjoying deadlock again.which would be horrible.
They should buff Silver in the next patch
>>580165538>implying defiance of so many additional variables isn't even more impressive than 1v1
>>580166318DoormanGOD btw
>>580166370It's probs a build issue. When I look at the popular builds they go all in on pure spirit, but I wonder personally if on-hit effects and sorta itemizing like Lash isn't the play.
>>580166548Faggot list fitting for a faggot character
>>580166548>Lethal League>Rivals of Aetherso you're a shit fighting game player *and* a shit deadlock player?
Actually insane how they nerfed the only melee character in the game into the dirt but Warden being unkillable while having actual AoEs and range is somehow allowed
>>580166812>only melee characterlow tier b8
>>580166568Yeah its crazy to me to not build any melee or gun damage on him (especially since gun damage gives you melee as well)It feels like he's meant to be a hybrid damage dealer and people just are playing him pure spirit and I don't understand
>>580166548Good lad. The europeans are upset at you. I can tell you're not european because you play mortal kombat.
>>580166812some characters are just the dev's special boys anon tell me why seven and wraith haven't been meaningfully nerfed>inb4 seven isn't ACTUALLY le goodhigh win rate high pick rate for years Graves and Holliday's pick rates/winrates went above 0.00002% for a single week before they were nerfed
qol lock bugged out on showing the dps of ivy's gun. finally accurate.
>>580166954Seven isn't good thobeit outside his ult
>>580166881what other character has to ALWAYS be up your ass to do damage? only silver
>>580166954>Seven>b-b-b-b-but he's fair>i have no concept of the strength of a character unless they're right in front of me and we're actively fighting>i cant imagine that his strength lies in the things i cant see such as ease of farm speed, etcunironically the only reason Seven/Wraith haven't been nerfed is people are too fucking stupid and lack object permanence to understand things happen outside their vision.this is also why graves is complained about as being OP, because 90% of what she does is in plain vision to you or pushing your lane (which is in vision) and that annoys people.
>>580167118neither was graves anon thats my point I dont care about Seven I dont find him OP at all but they don't use the same winrate/pickrate logic for him his winrate is high his pickrate is high no nerfs other characters winrates go up? they get nerfed doesn't make sense
>So you've called on me.>My help comes with a price.>With these hands I will destroy, and with these hands I will rebuild.>They've made the wrong enemy.>Be honored to die at my hand.>Feel free to hide. It only delays the inevitable.>You are witnesses to perfection!
>>580160694TRVKE
>>580166942It’s the low velocity, makes people wiff so they write it off
>>580160694>>580167618shouldve been a competitive multiplayer farming sim.
The game was better when there was shop limits for each color. The 4.8k item spike slop is dogshit and has been dogshit
>>580166318I've seen some FGC tubers saying fighting game should learn from games like DeadlockWhich is funny because Deadlock's basic game design fundamentals are so fucking bad man.
>>580166812uhm bro it's actually okay he has a massive aoe nade that does -50% weapon damage -30% ROF -1 stam debuff on a 5s cooldown. uhm it's actually okay that he can buy witchmail and spam his 1k shield every 4 seconds. uhm it's okay that he goes 25 meters a second with speed items. uhm...
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>>580167727Its like drifter thoughHe has short range projectiles and you just get up close to people.Apollo is probably going to get a change where one of spells applies some melee damage and then suddenly everyone will build him identically to drifter and then suddenly be surprised that he works so well like this, the change will get reverted, and he will still be insane and it will have been a build issue all along.idk its been fun trying to pick him up but its weird that the way I have been playing him is so against the grain
>>580167763i have a strong feeling the upcoming content/shop update is going to nuke the item investment system or at least shake it up more than fairly generic damage/%hp/ability-stats nonsense.the 4.8k breakpoint across the board is/was good for noobs but it's led to so much generification of fights/buildseither remove the investment entirely and do something else, or make investments different per-hero, either in soul-count (so some hero's have gun spike at 1.6k, some at 4.8k, whatever) or in stats (so gun investment gives +ammo to one hero, damage to another, fire rate to another, bullet lifesteal to another...)then it'd be more akin to each hero has "passives" that build from their investment instead of each investment being the same. kinda like how some heroes get stats from spirit already.
>>580167940>uhm it's okay that he goes 25 meters a secondJust like Mo
>>580167118>pick seven>go ult build>tickle people for all of 3 seconds before everyone is behind cover>get raped 10s later
>>580167763I 100% agree they should also bring back how flex-slots are unlocked
>>580167146>the only melee character>he means silverLMAO WHATSo you are a retard, I see....
>>580167794My wife on the right
>>580167940unironically flask could lose the damage completely and have all its debuff stats cut numerically in half and it'd still be an overtuned ability.>>580168141like i said to them in the first place, low tier b8. silver complainers are the biggest bitches in the game.
>>580168084You unironically need a high iq to play seven
>>580168141He's right anon...Silver's wolf form m1 is the ONLY melee attack in the game you didn't think that anon meant characters like billy that holds q to melee did you...? silver upplayers wouldnt be THAT stupid right?!
I liked 4 lanes map. Loaded it up today, walked around a bit. It wasn't perfect and maybe wasn't balanced, but it was FUN and unique. They should make it into some kind of casual for fun side mode
>>580167763yeah, gun characters having purple slots for counter buying utility was nice and spirit builds getting to buy gun items that gave them spirit resist shredding and stuff was nice.i still genuinely have no idea why they got rid of the old item slot system. the next time you're losing to seven because not a single person on your team thinks knockdown is worth an item slot just remember what they took away from you.
>>580168186Holliday is honest you know she'll throw barrels on you and you can use her Jump pads to chase her there's nothing she does thats pure bullshit guesswork
>>580168186>Celesteggers>Honest
>>580168385>gunslop passive>honest
>>580167763The spikes were a psyop to get retards to stop building one color and it barely workedPre spikes there was still diminishing returns and it was still better to get a small investment in each category
>>580168271I still dot understand why don't they just make it so werewolf dhiits claws like Drifter. Would fix half of her problems and probably boost her win rate
>>580168373The item system made a lot more sense when you had type locked slots.There are a lot of gun items that are clearly meant to enable spirit heroes, and spirit items meant to enable gun heroes. (Or I guess builds in general rather than heroes)But it made hybrid heroes too strong and now we still have hybrid heroes being a problem.So it didn't really feel like anything got fixed.
>>580168084>>pick seven>>go ult build>>tickle people for all of 3 seconds before everyone is behind coveryou forgot the part where>even with fully procced EE people will just straight up 1v1 you in your ult while it's maxed
>>580167576>>With these hands I will destroy, and with these hands I will rebuild.ebin
>>580168594>no infuser>no lightning scrollI think the issue is you aren't building around the ult>he thinks escalating exposure is more damage than boundless spiritI think the issue is you
>>580168879i had infuser, crackhead and a ton of spirit investment.dipshit retard
>>580168568They should make an anti-hybrid defensive item where taking gun damage provides spirit shielding and taking spirit damage provides gun shielding. Shield expires after 1s so the item only exists to fuck over M1ggers.
>>580168025Nah, I don't think they need to change him for that. People just need to internalize that Apollo, like Abrams, has a gap closing stun. He can already guarantee a fast melee on riposte.
>>580168235The irony is that high IQ players will pick Warden/Celeste/Rem over Seven
>>580167794imagine the drunk sweaty lesbian sex they're about to have
>>580159968It's honestly not. That's probably the only thing League did well. Even through their power creep their characters are reasonable in terms of not requiring excessive effort for the same result.Besides balance that is, because Katarina for one is super useless in high elo due to her kit being based on being in the very center of the enemy forces without any sort of cc immunity, and that murders her fast in high elo.In that sense she has to do a LOT more than low elo Katarinas but not much more than other characters honestly.Complexity wise Azir stands out as the hardest champ in League, but he isn't really hard at all and mechanically is super easy to get a grasp on. Meanwhile in Deadlock there seems to be entire canyons between characters. That mostly comes from the way of aiming. Melee and melee range skills vs skillshots and m1s.
>warden players>high IQlole
>hey why do I see so many Wardens lately all of the sudden?>oh...Meta slaves are exhausting, can't they just enjoy things?
>>580168373>>580168568No, the current investment system makes way more sense than the old one. The old one just meant everyone got the same slop on their non-prio'd stats.The current system has you actually thinking critically about where you get your spikes and when, and id you will entirely skip a certain spike. I for instance get 0 gun items on Shiv since his gun damage is cosmetic.With that said, maybe the investment stat should scale linearly? Or maybe heroes shouldn't level and be entirely dependent on investment for stat increases? Maybe the souls should be rescaled so items costs at a factor of 500 instead of 800 to make the math easier?
Ultbot Seven has literally ALWAYS been a meme since 2024
>>580169748>larpitems already used to be 500
>>580169047>i-i-i had heaps of spirit investment!!!!!Sounds like you built shit items and you can't figure out how to play one of the simplest and easy to execute heroes in the game.
debuffer seven is the way to go, activates at 10k.
>>580169871I had genuinly forgotten about that. Explains how everyone used to afford filling their fixed slots with a bunch of cheap tier 1 items though.
>>580169475Who tops?
>>580170510Abrams
>>580170510me
What's the average IQ of people who constantly ship characters? It's gotta be below 50.Go grind ranked retards what the fuck are you doing discussing characters getting together. Must have the female/agp gene
>>580170153the good old days of rushing 4 gun items on dynamo, hitting 1, and shooting them to death before they could even move...
>>580170510We all know they're calling over Rem to give them a big black dick down.
>>580166318Only a little bitGraves is the spiritual successor of Slayer in this game
>>580170696Yeah. Anyhow, my point was just to rescale the value of a soul so we can work with a factor of 5 instead of 8 to make the math easier.
Shiv's 2 didn't used to shred, what the fuck was the point of it before
>>580170945to have 0 cooldown if you hit more than 1 person
>>580163439heavy melee parry hitbox around the stone is so fucking unpredictable.
>>580166318What if I am a moba player AND fighting game player?Thousands of hours in dota and been playing since wc3But I also have been going to different fgc locals for like 17 years at this point
a good matchmaking system means, whatever you're rank is, you'll have a 50% win/loss rate roughly. i have weeks where i'm as low as 23%, and never higher than 40%, yet i'm still in the same rank somehow--not even a full rank deduction after 4 weeks. i don't play to lose 80% of the time, it's just not fun. uninstalled this game. complete garbage
>>580170510Obviously Yoshi wants to see her at the bottom, hence the nerfs
>>580170735>slayeryou mean jacko (forma de xrd)
>>580171226>calibrated high ritualist>games are decent>take a break for a few weeks>the acolytes and sentinels have climbed up to ritualist with a 40% winrate and haven't actually gotten better>games are dogshitif they want to keep shields in to protect feelings, they can't have them at all at subranks. absolutely retarded that you can climb through an entire badge with a negative wr.
>>580170945What I don't understand is why the shred is allowed to stack. It just makes Shiv even harder to balance.
>>580171527They should make it so Graves could pick up zombies and throw them
>>580171658bro I'm still stuck in mystic with a 60% wr, idk how you are getting froggies climbing there on a negative wr.
>>580171527Nah, don't be fooled by the summoner gimmickBoth Slayer and Graves are still very effective while piloted by morons, the skill floor is really lowBoth are very good vs noobs who don't do basic counterplay and then cry for nerfsBoth are actually mediocre when it comes to any sort of skilled playBoth are basically unga bunga characters but its players think themselves enlightened and sophisticated (I know, I am one)>>580171819This
>>580171819Sorry but Yoshi doesn't want the summoner characters to have any depth, complexity, nuance, micro, skill expression, creativity, or tech.You can... place the gravestone in their face for parry bait that never works, or you can put it by the skybox in some buggy-looking spot, or you can throw it way back and hope the fight doesn't wander away from the ghoul's lane of choice
>>580171907its pure volume
>>580172563>I have like 300 fucking ranked games.
>>580171658i dont care what my actual rank is, i want to win somewhere between 40-60% of the time week to week. anything less is a failure of matchmaking.
remember, no matter how bad your day is going, you are not mirage getting his gun jammed for 2 minutes straight
>>580173752whenever I see a clip with only 8 portraits on the top bar I stop watching
>>580173845not to mention the cheats
>>580148839lane terrorist, slippery as balls, fight-winning ult
>>580148072>>580148509
>>580169945I accept your concession
>>580173845
>enemy team is doing mid, but we are so disadvantaged there's no chance at a proper mid contest (e.g. they have unstoppables and we're down 2-3 people)the play here is just to shove your waves as best as possible and secure your jungle so they can't steal it after taking rejuvs right>>580174226gem
>>580174605lolstill waiting for the april fools day where they allow brawl items in standard
If you're down 30k do you trade a walker for rift?If you're down 30k do you fight a team w/ rejuvs at rift?If you're down 30k, your enemies have rejuvs, see 2 enemies on sidelane, do you try to jump them or safely fight at walker/base?
>>580174605>BrickyAn inspired maneuver
>It's amazing what somebody is capable of, isn't itWhy does this Celeste line sound so retarded? I find it really off for some reason. Also honorable mention to Rem for the worst voice acting in the game, hate it
>>580175423we fight comeback riftnah they can have itif we have prio on other lanes, we jump them. otherwise, no. if they have prio, it means their team are ready to react to what will happen or they're making a play. if they don't have prio, they have to clear it.
>>580175423>If you're down 30k do you trade a walker for rift?Your walker? Yes. Do you take one of theirs over rift? No, you have comeback resists. Kills + rift would equalise the soul gap.>If you're down 30k do you fight a team w/ rejuvs at rift?Depends entirely on the team comp on either side and who has ults up>If you're down 30k, your enemies have rejuvs, see 2 enemies on sidelane, do you try to jump them or safely fight at walker/base?No, it's almost always bait and it'll still take long enough to kill both twice their team can rotate if it isn't.
>>580172680how pale are you?
>>580175931the worst (ability) line in the game is>I am not divine, but I am powerful!
>>580175423YesYesDepends on the elo
>>580175931Rem has god tier voice acting
Oh boy can't wait to start another losing streak after one of my team goes 0/7 against warden during laning phase
>>580177630Careful, your mental retardation is showing - just like a quirky chungus adult woman is clearly showing through Rem's voice acting. It's also incredibly inconsistent, like she wasn't given any direction and decided to do some random unrelated banshee noises instead.
>>580177630*poorly mixed chirping*
Holiday was really good a couple patches ago but I don't remember why
>>5801780071.9x spirit scaling on 5 barrels
>>580159968drifter's weaknesses are playing from behind and crumpling to CC, otherwise it's by intention that he runs away with the game if the enemy team just feeds him
>>580177841>>580177981lmao seethe
>>580176834Not very, I still have a porch to lounge on during meals.
Another day of slowly going insane while waiting for a patch. I've started relying on discovering different porn categories to keep my brain occupied with other stuff outside of thinking about Deadlock when I come back from work/uni, but I'm running out of weird shit online that I'm into. Yoshi, I truly beg of you.
>>580167794>Which is funny because Deadlock's basic game design fundamentals are so fucking bad manyou need to stop right there and tell me what fighting games you play or I will call you a huge retard that must kys
i cant stop feeding on haze i wanna be good with this hero but im just dog
I play with the chat and VC completely muted so every time I see someone pause to type I can only hope they're not mad at me
>Hahaha I can stun for a ridiculous time, deflect, be invincible, have a 3 riposte and insane movement, Im so fair and skilled!>Hahaha I have huge weapon damage, ludicrious spirit damage with my cards at the same time if I want, Im so fair and skilled!Meanwhile if you play Venator you get busted in your balls 24/7, your weapon is MEH at best (that being your only way to build it, no, if you link that shit ass spirit build you are a retard) and your ass is heavy as fuck for some reason, devs wont change you for several patchesAre devs seriously this retarded?
>>580179893>your weapon is MEH at bestgit gud at aiming bricklo
>>580172105summoner characters in a 3rd person shooter are a bit harder to design probably
leaked hero for next patchturtle abrams
>>580148114>>580174226Was referring to the melee discourse last thread but its a reoccurring thing where people play like shit and will unironically post clips flaming the game
>>580179550You're a pussy and you shouldn't play competitive videogames
>>580179893landing all your stakes is basically a guaranteed kill or even double kill depending on the circumstances
The next gimmick they genuinely will do is the bristleback gimmick. Less damage when shooting their back, you know it'll happen. Screenshot this post.
>>580180567Oh well
>>580180639Knew someone was gonna name the stakes>"Yeah bro just land 3 single shots every single time and you will be able to get a kill (unless its late game or he has some items or he just out corners and outruns your slow ass). It doesn't matter all the stuff available the other busted characters you named have"
>>580180919>hehehe, I knew that someone was going to bring up his ultimate! it was inevitable. my victory was assured!ok seven
>>580180567screaming at your teammates in a videogame doesnt make you an alpha male
>>580180639>>580180919plated armors this post
>>580180452>>580180713Supportive turtle frontliner who can mr. president teammates.His other gimmick is that sliding disarms him but acts as a modifier for his abilities.
>not a ninja turtlesoulless
>>580180452Where did you get this from.
>>580181548it's from the geist vn nigga
https://x.com/jetsetworm/status/2096962441686978735>what no updates does to a motherfuckerYOSHISAVE USPLEASE
>>580181797They need to hire this guy like they did with that modder and have him whip out some black magic minecraft hero that is legally distinct.
>>580181952I was just watching a video about how steve ruined smash bros
>>580182063I haven't even played it but all the footage makes it look mega cancer lmaoWE NEED IT IN DEADLOCK RIGHT FUCKING NOWSo we can have them mega complain when their OP hero gets slightly nerfed like doorman mains.
Nigga half the time I get a graves on my team they buy ZERO green items
Silver still has a problem m of not scaling into the late game mostly thanks to her ult. She just can't do anything in the late game and it's been like this since she was added to the game. This won't go even if they buff her
>>580181201Being scared to talk on the mic makes you a beta male by comparison, are you stupid? You fear confrontation.
>>580182538Correct, she was balanced around that on release but retarded shitters cried about her being strong early in 1v1s so they nerfed her to shit so now she does nothing
>>580182538just make her wolf form attack drifters gunit's so insane that they made her a pure melee when literally everyone else has range and she gets countered by a fucking pole
>>580182857Make her base 4 stam in wolf form to compensate
do silver mains forget she has free stamina refresh in her kit
anyone who tells you "this game doesn't reward aim!" is telling on themselves. m1ggers deal the most damage, have the best items, have the best abilities and are the only heroes who scale. the game DOES reward aiming, almost too much. (You) just can't aim for shit and have 0 awareness of the game outside of holding m1
I am currently witnessing a renowned EU Shiv player building this.Has he lost his mind?
>>580183101>only applies in ranged form so it's not needed>the dash it's tied to has a range of 2 creeps>silver has a small hitbox so it's easy to miss>you'll also just hit a creep instead of the hero
>>580183272>Patch so bad gun shiv is now metaBRAVO YOSHI
>>580183272I think he just wants to get out of this game, so he builds movement speed + ammo + reload to build enough speed to escape Samsara
>>580183272the warden society has your number
>>580160694this
>>580183272You can run the Warden build on anyone who has a good enough gun, and Shiv benefits from the merc mag + spiritual overflow buffing his knives.
>>580181797>>580181952Any of you know if this dude or somewhere has a guide on how to get hammer going for Deadlock and have it work?I have no idea how this dude managed to make that video. Something like that should have required the source 2 SDK.
>>580183272The warden build is good on a lot of characters.
>>580183432They nerfed his spirit scaling, but gigabuffed execute and rage damage boost. And rage damage boost works on all sources of damage, hence why people tried out Melee Shiv to a successful degree. The other reasonable build is gun.
>>580184406His D*scord is in his Twitter bio so that's probably your best bet but it is impressive all the shit he's doing. Building entire Minecraft houses in Deadlock and stuff.
>Warden is so strong! his kit does so much! his stats are too good!why did it take you so long to notice which streamer pointed this out so the unthinking masses repeat it
>>580184765I've hated that dumb, uninteractive hero for months, fuck off.
>>580184765i don't understand why it's suddenly the memehe's been in this state for a while, no? weren't people shitting on metro for being dogshit and just spamming the fuck out of warden to barely maintain eternus
>>580185004They nerfed his gun damage a couple times and everyone bailed out of the hero because there were other more broken characters, some of those have been nerfed so people went down the tier list and found Warden again, the new-ish build they run on him helps.
>>580184765Because that's literally all it is. One person with say noticing a character is good and everyone piggybacking off of that. It doesn't take a genius to look at warden's kit and say he's dumb but it takes some notoriety for people to take you serious. You could say sinclair is a top 10 character but no one is going to take you seriously unless you have an audience to back you up.
how am I supposed to use GT's rain of arrows in lane effectively? unless people are jumping around on top the lane bridge, they can simply take cover and handily win the m1 trade
>>580185004Most people are shit at the game and don't know how to build. What happened was an optimized build came out.
>>580185424chip damage on top of harassing them with spirit shot nukes
>>580184765>Warden is too strong>his kit does too much>his stats are too goodNone of these are true except for the stat part with his hp gain, the real power is in the optimized item build and the item rework will likely change this.
the brick™ experience
>>580185701>Nukesyeah, nukes. right.
Oracle is the perfect rank. You're not in pisslow with fags who'll correct you for calling Pocket a he. You're also at a rank where games can be decent. Also you're not too high of a rank where streamerfags army of snowflakes will try to harass you because you said "nigga." It's the most blessed rank.
>my bebop hooks haze right next to me when i'm low and she pops ulti'm banning this hero
Pic related: my team deciding to do midboss when we have a tiny lead at 10 minutes and throwing the game because the entire enemy team was alive + all ults and they stole the rejuv
>>580185982damage is the one thing talon is good at bro
>>580186005as the calibration maximum it can never be a good rank because of the inherent skill gapsfor me, it's emissaryno, I'm not coping
>>580186043The amount of fucktards who scream to go mid after two picks with sub 20 respawn timers is too damn high. What makes it worse is they don't even look at the minimap to see our waves aren't in a good spot either. I don't know what possessed these fucktards to think the moment you get a pick you NEED to go mid but it has to stop. What makes it worse is when you try to tell them it's not a good idea they throw a fit like a toddler.
If you're playing one of the current S+ champs and you're about to lose I will pause the game before we deal the last hit and roast the shit out of you.If you can't win with a 60+% wr champ you should seriously consider roping
>>580186086after he gets boundless, tankbuster, and spirit burn he sure does. before that the arrows tickle
what's the deadlock equivalent of this clip?
>>580179496I'm still a haze nub but one trick I learned is you can really get up into people's faces when you're in stealthed and they like, still won't see you despite being semi-revealed. I used to basically not even bother being stealthed if they were inside of the ring of reveal but you'd be surprised at how retarded people are about reacting to or seeing your blob form.
I'm tired of fighting bebop
>>580182201>>580182063can you imagine like a few years down the line when we get street brawl community servers with fully custom heroes like steve minecraft and dante dmc and whatever other bullshit people make like mario or whatever
>>580186572kn
>>580186792reactive barrier is only 1600 you cheapskate
>point and click item that disables some heroes' entire kit for 1.6k>counterplay? just buy a 3.2k item lol
>>580186572abams getting repeatedly parried and continuing to heavy melee
>>580186572Bebop hyper beaming me and me alone during the rift fight.
>>580187360achtung! 3.5s of not being able to use my get-out-of-jail-free card?! this is another hague!
>>580187360t. minaNOOOOO LET ME USE MY BULLSHIT TELEPORT FOR FREEEEEEYOSHI FIX IIIIIIT GET RID OF IIIIIIIIT
>>580175423>ma'rty...launder 32.5 quintillion dollars in 3.2 attoseconds or...i kill family...yours..specifically
>>580188585>Uses dispel (the best item in the fucking game)>Is now 3 miles away
>Boot Up>Play Brool for 90 minutes>Close GameAnother fine day of Deadlock
is vindicta gonna just be locked out of pro play forever? never see her picked or banned in nightshift
>>580189334They play her in scrims sometimes but all her counters are popular in comp and they can easily coordinate using 2-3 knockdowns or just buying phantom strike earlier.
>>580189334when one item makes her totally actually worthless then yes vindicta gets absolutely bummed by coordinated play the only reason she's not D tier is because solo players wont buy knockdown or PS at all and then whine they cant do anything about the vindicta flying around
>>580188585It doesn't do much since the recast window is longer than the slowing hex window now.
Alright, Im enjoying Victor and Grey Talon, now Im going to try other heroes, jhow you play Geist and Kelvin? I just want to add more heroes into my pool.
>>580185742right warden actually sucks and its just his items that are good but people are ONLY building these on warden and dominating for shits and giggles
>>580187360complaining about slowing hex is a sign of extreme low skill
>>580187360That's fine. Cheaper items = more effective early, but no scaling. The problem with this item is that it never loses usefulness, if they dispel (they have to, it's so fucking strong at restricting movement) it you just baited out their 3.2k item and rape them with the rest of your team's CC.
>>580190834It needs to be strong, we are already in a meta where all the S-tier heroes have insane mobility. Do you want lash to be even STRONGER?
>>580164686Tbh though playing from behind is not fun and playing passively because you got retards is boring they should fix that make it so you can be more aggro and win from behind.
>>580187360It should turn off more skills actually. Lash stomp is frequently used as an escape tool.
They really dropped the ball on character lines compared to Dota 2.
If you're going to let people fly around the map baseline for free, you need cheap ways to break kneecaps.
every deadlock meta is just cycling between each carry since they are all broken as fuck strong at the start of the game and have insane scaling
>>580191337>months without any new voice linesand some characters still don't even have * i see x" lines and nothing comes out when you ping them
KEEP AN EYE ON THE BALLS BOYS AND GIRLS
bros I fucking love street brawl
>>580191671My bet is that the next will be geist.Braindead hero
>tfw had another one of those matches where you win because the guy feeding on your team ragequits, so the souls get split across 5 people instead and you can outscale the enemy team very easilyon one hand it is VERY funny but on the other hand it's quite ridiculous
>>580191937How long until people figure out having a support afk at base is meta and report you if you don't
>>580191937I had something similar but instead I was forced to solo defend blue guardian while my team 3 man'd another lane because of a duo and a guy who didn't want to switchEnded up getting 3-4 solo kills as victor early game so I ended up with the most insane 10k early lead while my team flamed each other
>>580186572What about this one?
>>580186572literally any footage of apollo after 10 minutes because the player thinks he's still hax tier
>>580192245hmmm billy parry feinting heavy melee and then slapping them in the ass post parry
>>580192126in my case it was a silver who fed a pocket like 6 kills, if you don't get souls while in the base then you might be onto something>>580192185winning a 2v1 in lane as victor is insane, the chat/voice logs for that match must sound hilarious
>>580175931>>580177054>line from a literal unicorn sounds stupidly cheesyIf you meant to say it's perfect, then yeah
Just lost the easiest game of all time because my retard team decided to go mid while the entire enemy team was still alive.What is it about midboss spawning that makes people turn their fucking brains off dude, I can't take these fucking retard team mates anymore
>>580186572Doorman's vent cart loop.
>>580192605It was the funniest shit ever because they did steamroll the guardian but over extended into blue walker so I just held w and got the most easy solo kills while they were 1/3 HP. Combine that with solo lane farm and HOLY SHIT THE VICTOR IS FED. Seriously people do not understand how much solo farm + solo kills you it was gamebreakingAnd yeah the comms were nutty, I kept telling the lash and his duo to kill themselves because they started this shitshow in the first place, ended up spamming KILL YOURSELF NIGGER KILL YOURSELF NIGGER at each other in the victory screen because duos in ranked is faggot behaviour even if we won (because of ME)Only in EU phantom
the rift soul disparity resistance bonus that supposedly exists (still zero proof btw) should just apply to the whole game
>>580191875Standard is a fuck9000 Brool matches
An Infernus player seems to have managed to crash my entire teams clients by typing a really long string with I'm assuming chinese characters. Even the replay fucking dies if I try to play that part of it.
>>580193190I had a fucking Ivy do that after getting pissy on Street Brawl of all things.
>>580193285I was literally a second away from solo killing a warden, only people who seem to have stayed connected were him and infernus, so it at least makes sense now. How do you report though I can't seem to be able to do it fro mreplay.
>russian goes leave lane so i can solo farm or i leave the game>guy doesnt>he actually abandons the gameban every russian from this game and it'll improve tenfold
>>580193641>wahh report report he crashed the game waahhh
>>580193818Yes.
>>580194124You're such a fucking bitch LMAO.
>>580186572I'm not extremely mentally retarded and not a faggot enough to know about fighting games, what'a happening on this video?
>>580193818Seething Ruscel behavior.
point blank is so overrated on silver desu
Give it to me straightis deadlock dead?
>>580186572The blackest, most moth-breathing -500 IQ nigger gorilla subhuman inbred deformed braindead fuck who will die choking on his own tongue on the next day (Abrahams player) killing you with heavy melees because your parry didn't register on the first hit for some reason
>>580194709Everyone moved to brawl
>I deal spirit damage I wish my main source of damage also applied slow>of course my peachy pie :) you can have a stun on your ult too as a bonus>I deal bullet damage I wish my main source of damage also applied slow>NO!!! NONONO!!! NO!!!!!!! THAT'S TOO POWERFUL!!! DOESN'T MATTER IT TAKES 500 BUSINESS DAYS TO PROCC IT!! NO!!! YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED!!! ALSO HAVE THIS STAMINA AND SPEED PENALTY!!!
>>580195052Can Mystic Slow get +30 Spirit and +20% debuff resist?
>>580194608It's just so easy to itemize thoughclose quarters is enough for all of early game while you rush your other 4.8k spikes and then the upgrade more than doubles the damage and gives you that slowStill miss slowing rounds having damage
>>580194709They nerfed Silver too hard, the game is dead
>>580195189meh true but i just find it weird when people say it's 'core' unironically BT is crazy underrated on Silver
>>580195469Oh... You're that guy.How do you counteract BT's self damage?Silver's health pool is among the lowest in the game so that flat 50/s is pretty taxing
>>580195391True, they should have buffed her every patch until the brickoids had 50% on her then nerfed
>>580196085Nah, they should've just let the "good" players figure out how to deal with her, it's not hard
>>580196015I have usually 3 gun items and build the rest full green with tanky items maybe its not the best way to play Silver but its been working being a tank also I don't have BT on all the time I use it with Berserker trigger it before a fight happens to get cheap Berserker stacks or right before I wolf out its probably not the best way to play Silver but meh its been working for me at my shit elo
>>580194343the vega player is trying to do one of his moves that allows him to escape the corner and counter attack projectiles, but he's messing up the timing completely under pressure instead of just patiently blockingin deadlock terms, it's someone mashing parry instead of keeping their composure
>>580194343clearly you are extremely mentally retarded and a faggot because you cant figure out how one guy is spamming the same move over and over while the other cant gets hit by it because hes retarded like you
why the fuck can't I 1v1 a mirage as abrams close-quarters? why is he dealing so much damage? this is retarded
>>580196872Scarabs are a built in inhibitorYou don't 1v1 Mirage unless you're massively ahead.
>>580196872one of the best kiters in the game, tornado, scarabs, etc
Deadlock would be fixed if there was no matchmaking and you could instead browse a server list.
>/dlg/ when Silver is a S+ pick or ban:>NAH BRO Silver is the weakest hero in the game bro just counter her bro>/dlg/ when Silver is a D- shit tier hero:>*crickets*Fairweather friends, huh?
>>580197126meet your match ruined deadlock
SIPHON BULLETSSUCK
Deadlock would be fixed if Yoshi got laid
>>580197410>>/dlg/ when Silver is a D- shit tier hero:She always was
Silver will remain shit until you stop posting about her.
>>580197638Truthnuke, it was just new hero bias making everyone braindeadIt just took awhile for everyone to realize that rem and celeste are the true hitler, zero counterplay niggers that need to be nerfed into oblivion
>>580197806She'll remain shit forever in that case because Silvertrannies never shut the fuck up
viscous is secretly op but no one talks about him btw
>>580197827um this super simple one note hero thats strong in 1v1s beat me 1v1? how is that fair no i wont stop trying to 1v1 her why would i change my playstyle when against a hero that easily counterable by changing my playstyle?
>>580198037you don't even really need to adjust your playstyle, just nuke her before she gets wolf her base HP without it is mina-tier
>>580198178um but i must always open with my nuke combo and stun and silence? why would i save it for when shes low health and can ult lol shes just so op ok
haze is so irredeemably dogshit now
>>580192245what the actual fuck am I looking atdude can just sidestep at lightning speed?
>>580198423good
>>580197452it doesn't though
>>580197452>>580198709it does, the cooldown makes it garbage on anyone but geist and that's only beacuse geist is a cunt hero who can actually use it regardless of cooldownit needs the cooldown removed or at least made per hero and allow it to stack infinitely
The reason why Silver was nerfed constantly was Bola just look at every whiny fucking person. Who do they play? High mobility Heroes like Infernus that can dash away from everything (remember Dash Infernus was crazy broken) and Wraith with her free teleport what does Bola do? Turn these fucking obnoxious free get out of jails off now here's a character that they can't just escape from and they seethe the Silver nerfs were literally a targeted psyop by retarded 'pros'
>>580189334She used to see play before the reworks because she was a very solid support that could snowball hard, now there's no reason to play her over any other damage dealer because she has too many downsides for what is essentially tether + mediocre single target damage.
>>580198892Reminder that night shift is just a bunch of retarded nolife eturnusniggers playing inhouses intentionally ignoring the actually op heroes while pretending mediocre heroes are actually op so their free mmr heroes won't get nerfed.
>>580198892>Silver gets nerfed into oblivion>Meta where all the mobility heroes are extremely strongI've seen enoughBuff her so every movement tranny kills themselves.
>>580198853statements imagined by the utterly deranged
>>580199179yeah Mcginnis was OP since the march update but it took months for profags to wake up to her since they were jerking themselves off about S+++ilver
>>580199138>she was a very solid support that could snowball hardshe was a cancerous tether bot with alc fire.genuinely the most braindead uninteractive garbage out there.
>>580199324Silver was literally designed to keep movementslop and splitpushing carries in check, no wonder the game turns to shit as she gets nerfedOh boo hoo she's sooo strong and can kill people 1v1 just don't fucking 1v1 her then you retarded rivals refugee this is a moba just outfarm the hero that can't farm and also scales horribly
>>580199467pre-nerf silver was a direct counter to mcginnis
>>580198423She is a M1 assassin, but for some reason people play her like an M1 carry when she should be building like an assassin.
>>580199683Oh yeah Good thing they nerfed Silver, everyone loves playing against mcginnis
>>580199647I'm talking about post stake nerfs, around october to december 2025.
>get a teamwipe 30 minutes in by exploding in the middle of half their team that are trying to get a pick on us in a sidelane>celeste: what's the plan?>me: we must press the advantage!>entire team splits to go farm while they have no base and an undropped patronoh... ok i guess
>38mb updateWhat is it, chat?
>"can't join matchmaking there's an update lol">38.8MB updateYOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHITS WHERE IS THE MAJOR UPDATE!
Has something finally happened?
>>580200297>>580200320>>580200621probably fixing the chinese chat crash exploit
>>580200297Doorman and Viscous gun buffs
>>580200621nothing ever happens
>>580183272>last week I was retarded for considering gun shivMr. Streamer says its ok now though?
The game reset the tutorial. I guess that's the update.
>>580200687yet they don't fix the exploit about a man with doors that appeared out of nowhere awhile ago
celeste on top of all their other absurd abilities does not need a free silence
streamers are beginning to notice the eomm.......
So nice to see how when I get Celeste/Silver/Victor on my team, they are absolute dogshit, but when they play against my team, they rape entire lobbySo fucking cool
Umm... guys??Is it happening?
>>580201353>edited the filename AGAINLazy bait
>>580201440I put as much effort into it as Yoshi puts into this game.
How the fuck you play Mina, yes Im that bad I need help
>>580201791you have to play extremely aggresively and proc love bites within 2 seconds + rake then retreat when they try to fight back
>>580201791land 5 bulletsin a rowi know it's hard but you have to try.
>>580201791>How the fuck you play MinaJust don't. She is absurdly squishy and deals barely any damage compared to other characters in the same category. Play Holliday instead.t. former mina main
>>580201791if someone is half health you auto win the fight by love bites+rake
>check thread>silvertrannies are still screechingyep, it's a good thread.
>>580159986>Haze >dogshit buildsky is blue.could only be more on the nose if they also flamed the team after attempting a 1v5why are they like this
>>580202736yes go rake the half health victor hehehehheeh
>>580167763>>580168468the only major problem with the old system was that some heroes didn't want to invest too much into the opposite damage stat, so they were forced to buy the few utility options that existed at the time every game (this was very apparent on spirit casters and m1 carries to a lesser extent).The only thing needed to fix this was just to add more utility and casting items to the orange category. Instead of doing the simple thing, Valve decided to throw the baby out with the bath water and release the single most game-warping update this game has ever seen, which brought with it a whole host of new problems that just didn't exist previously.But hey, Calico and Mo can spend more than double the amount of souls (4800) to get the same amount of gun investment that they previously needed to only spend 2000 souls to obtain by filling their gun slots with tier 1s.
Emissary 1, Ritualist 5, Ritualist 4, Ritualist 5, Emissary 1, Ritualist 5, Ritualist 4, Ritualist 5, Emissary 1, Ritualist 5, Ritualist 4, Ritualist 5, Emissary 1.
>>580203027tits too small
>>580203119funny thing is they should have just made an unranked queue + the old system and it would have been much better. maybe keep the 15 wins req but thats it
>>580193818actual shitskin spotted, holy
>>580203027We need a Dagon, just make it a fucking Wand Pipe Gun.
>>580202076>>580202328>>580202331>>580202736I can aim somewhat okish its just people getting too close. Maybe I should try Geist instead? I already play Victor, M& K and Warden alot.
Silber needs her ultimate to be unfucked. 60 second cooldown is too long for something that activates automatically. She was designed and balanced around a 20 second cooldown.>poke the enemy a little too much>YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PUSHED ME. AWOOOOOOOOO>Either forced to commit to bad fight or waste your ult. Enemy knows you have no ult so they can force a fight nowShe is crippled by her design right now.
>>580203636>I already play Victor, M& K and Wardenholy soulless
>>580203674its why she should have been a stance character instead of this dogshit impossible to balance rage shitter
>>580203674>ummmmm silver deserves a 20 second ultummmmmmmm no
>>580203849not enough troon characters for /dlg/
>>580203636Geist is the fair and honest version of Victor having two health bars so you probably wouldn't like her.
>>580203674delete silver from the gamenot because silver is unsalvageable, but because silver players are.
>low rank>fun>high rank>fun>inbetween>unquiet helldont think this is a solvable issue.genuinely morbidly curious what launch month will look like
>>580203923Thats what is was on release and its what gave streamers ptsd. You could actually play aggressively and got rewarded with a big heal so you can either disengage and wait 20 seconds or commit to the fight.
I need 100 anons to gather their rigs and get on the truck
Gut bebop
>>580203674Replace the AP bonus that gives the ult resist with an alt cast that empties your rage and refunds 90% of the cooldown.maybe rebalance it so you get it later for flavor reasons idk
you got somethin' on ya mate
>>580204354>errm I was allowed to 1v11 by pressing w so it's a good thing sweatykys silvertrannylearn to play the game.
i hate how all the white fanart of graves make her ugly as fuck with that giant jew nose. why can't you people just draw cute things
>>580204354sounds brokenhere's another method, change it to another shiv rage bar she can manually commit when full. tradeoff nerf at 90sCD. has a brief 5-6s window to ult or has to build it up again.
>>580205021The nose makes her more rapeable
>It is 2007>valve releases a character that preys on uncoordinated teams>considered broken and unfair>it is 2025>valve releases a character that preys on uncoordinated teams>considered broken and unfair
>>580204987You got me!Enjoy another MONTH of seeing celeste and lash every single game!
alchemical flask is an actual abomination of an abilityFIVE FUCKING SECONDS???
>>580203987Im willing to try more heroes, I dont want to stuck with the same ones forever.
>>580205090You'll never get that because the point is that you don't control when it comes out. That's the design. Like it or not it's the character's soul. You could maybe make it so if you kill her in wolf it puts her back into normal silver at 30% hp or something. The real problem that I find with her now that I've played her double digits amount of times is that the character can't not fight. Her clear is terrible. If your team decides to chill and farm you immediately lose momentum, any fight you try to start will find you swarmed by the enemy.
>>580204987>1v11Literal 50/50 hero even when you're fed, she was never op unless you're mentally ill and think winning isn't what matters.
it's always fun trying to guess who it is on your team that manages to contribute 0 damage whatsoever in any fight or situation when there very obviously is someone but it's all been brooling
>>580205408>nerf ambassador>never update the game againfuture seems grim
>>580205518cult sac/veil walker if you think the game is going to stall and you need to roam/farm
>>580168568The problem with that is the shop rework is also the same update which added merc mag. If anything, the shop rework actually buffed hybrid heroes, and even enabled more heroes to start dipping into hybrid cancer with the new items. Infernus just needed to buy merc mag, and dump the rest into whatever fotm gun items were tearing up soloq at the moment to legitimately become uncounterable.
i unironically think that this game will be abandoned like underlords/artifact at this pointto have a successful game, you need a dev team with passion. a dev team with passion does not drop 0 updates in 9 months for an ALPHA PLAYTEST
Is Mercrial that busted? Saw an eternus Geist building it
>>580205698I've been trying stuff with her. I find sharpshooter actually really good because her gun is one of the best in the game. You can stay far away and more reliably build up wolf then trigger it when the time is right. I've been taking ricochet too, I think the idea make sense, if you 1 into a crowd with ricochet you immediately get wolf, the ricochet works in wolf and builds up your stacks instantly and it gives her clear that the needs. The only problem is the timing, I'm not sure when I should get it
I like the way doorman reminds drifter he's a coward
Gun Lash is legit the most degenerate no counterplay garbage out there. holy fucking shit.
>>580204128What is a low rank for you?Because I can tell you for sure that Brick is not fucking fun
>>580206153Why? Doesn't seem obvious at face value, just because he hunts you down with ropes?
>>580205835they're updating the secret playtest server daily though?
>>580205436Should've been 12
>>580206248He has infinite mobility and just kills you from the skyboxAt least with spirit lash he has to risk coming down to nuke you with spirit.
>>580204987You caught me. I intentionally lose with Silver so Yoshi buffs her.>>580205835Secret playtest is getting updated. Trvst the plan.>>580205853Its not really that broken. It scales off base weapon damage so you cant actually just build it on anyone.
>>580205835>i unironically think that this game will be abandoned like underlords/artifact at this pointthey can't keep releasing new games and abandoning them, surely...? this is the only valve game that's gotten traction in years (cs 2 doesn't count, its just a csgo update and that game was already established)
haha yes Yamato, disconnect during the endgame which we were winning up until that pointhaha no I don't feel bad for losing that game just because your russian potato nigger pc decided to shit itself
>>580206376Won't he get bad damage drop off if he shoots you from that far though?
they need to nerf vyper into the fucking ground
>>580206248>>580206576do these retards just not even play the gamewhy do you need this explained to you if you don't play
>>580206003ricochet Silver is kino. You can also proc inhibitor and Silencer in just 2-3 swipes. Its just really hard to assemble these items because you're Silver.
>>580206414dude they already abandoned cs2 as wellfull of cheaters and they didn't even release a map they teased over a year agoi have 0 clue what kind of company gaben is running at this point, letting devs do whatever they want may have worked in the past but now it basically means none of their games are getting updates
>0/5 matches this update for BillyHOW AM I SUPPOSE TO UNLOCK HIM WHEN I GET MOUTH BRETAHER TEAMMATES
>>580206704Yes Billy, let your rage FLOW
>>580206628I have like 400 hours lmao I don't really understand the systems in the game cause I just play and check nothing outside of it
>>580206513sex with paradox
>>580206003>her gun is one of the best in the game
>>580206214Bricklow is fun but in a absurdist fashion where you’ll see the most retarded plays end up killing half the enemy team and the most insane (this is my second match don’t get mad kinda way) builds somehow working out into a 20/4/6
Any of you guys on arch? I've been having this problem for like a year at this point where I need to reboot the game between every game because after the game's been running long enough (over 60 minutes) it'll drop to like 15 FPS. The trigger is usually opening the store or chat wheel. No one on proton is saying anything about this behavior. I've been hoping it'd get patched but it might be unique to me.
>TF2 is dead>CS2 is dead and only alive thanks to the market>Dota 2 is kinda kicking thanks to the recent InternationalWhat makes you think that Deadlock stands a chance and it will not be abandoned in like a year after release?Valve shits on their own established titles, they have no problem killing Deadlock
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>>580207106I just don't get the point of making these games and shitcanning them immediately
>>580207106>you'd like to know how mommy keeps this figurenot really i dont give a shit about how attractive women get attractive
>>580207106Have you considered those games are decades old and the devs are not interested anymore? Maybe dont invest your life savings into unusual hats and weapon skins.
>>580207106>What makes you think that Deadlock stands a chanceValve hires autists not really interested in FPS games and Dota 2 is 13 years old
>>580207287valve makes the majority of its money from the platform, not gamesmake low effort AI slop games like deadlock -> people have to download steam to play -> more people on steam, more profit -> stop developing deadlock because people are spending on the platform
>>580207287>shitcanning them immediatelyTF2 is nearly 20 years old
>>580207106>Coomerslop post>The most retarded opinion you've ever heard in your lifeA more iconic duo than Mario and Luigi.
>>580207338>that Chinese guy that tried to off himself since he invested his life savings into CSGO skinsvalve really should’ve nipped that shit in the bud 10 years ago those poor fuckin’ lawyers that somehow have to navigate explaining videogames skin economics for some 70yr old judge must have the biggest headache on their hands
i feel deadlock will never be a competitive game (horrible balance, horrible to watch) but will be a party game like tf2
>>580170696I still can't believe that both of the most controversial updates (May 8th 2025, March 6th 2026) both came with nerfs to Dynamo's gun.Shop rework did it indirectly with the investment and slots reduction weakening the space in which non-standard builds (such as Gun Dynamo) can exist.March 6th was far more overt by just removing stuff from his kit that actually enabled his gun playstyle completely (no more quantum reload or fire rate, stomps losing out on % gun damage amp).Dynamo is paying for the sins of Gun Kelvin curbstomping lobbies a few years back. Doesn't matter that Gun Dynamo is a fat immobile fuck with nowhere near the centralizing presence that Kelvin was at his height, Yoshi and his team of morons demand that any support who even looks at a gun build is giganerfed to oblivion (except Ivy, of course).
>>580207287All of those games listed are a decade old>bbb-but CS2?!It’s GO with a facelift man
>>580207882actually it runs much worse than go
why the fuck is this graves killing me as endgame blasted billy in 5 seconds with her gun????
>>580207882>>580207513I expressed myself poorly. By "these games" I meant the more recent games (artifact, underlords, and now deadlock?) they put out and immediately abandoned, I didn't mean "these games" as in those games in the post.
>>580208104you have to kill her summons hope that helps
>>580208104because lategame gun Graves can actually do damage
>>580207853controversial to who
The author of Haze's model surely has an adult woman fetish...
>>580208104Because she builds toxic bullets and its not gonna matter if you have 6 million max hp? In fact she does more damage the more blasted you get.
The only hope they had with Deadlock is skin market, but that shit is getting regulated so now they can't attract skinbrosIt's just a matter of time someone makes a better Deadlocklike
>>580208189dynamo gun enjoyers, apparently
>>580207106>What makes you think that Deadlock stands a chance and it will not be abandoned in like a year after release?all of the games you just mentioned have had over a decade of support, and by "support" I don't mean just maintenance-mode (cs2 is just cs:go's engine upgraded).>Valve shits on their own established titles, they have no problem killing Deadlockby "their own established titles" you mean ideas they stole from the community right? TF was a quake mod, team fortress was a half-life mod, and dota was a warcraft custom map.
how come you can't wall jump in tf2 or cs if its the same engine
>>580207106- These JOI suck- She's not missing an armBad image
someone here posted a "big fat ass under a miniskirt" graves mod here like a year and a half ago and I just wanted to say I'm still using it. thank you
>>580207654>coomerslopNah. Geist is safehorny shit.Real ones know Mina is the only attractive female character in this game. You might be able to argue Graves too.And as a Minacoomer, I will say 9 months without an update is not really that big of a deal and people are "losing their minds" over nothing really. Especially if the next update is significant.
>>580208430That would almost be a good image if they didn't make Graves repulsive looking.
I like Geist
>>580208828i agree as a fat old man i now like ugly bastard porn
>>580208691>Real ones know Mina is the only attractive female character in this game.sex with minawith silverwith celestewith hazewith gheistwith pagewith vindictawith mina again
>>580208104Her gun is actually good when built around it, you just have to be a mouth breathing retard to ignore her entire kit
Paradox is prime rape meat
>>580208949and with viscous above all
>>580208170that's not even remotely true thoughbeit
>>580208949I could agree with Silver actually but to be honest I actually forgot she even came out because I just had 0 fun playing her unfortunately>hazeno>gheistnah>celesteabsolutely not>vindictashes fine, but would probably ignore if Mina is there>pageif drunk
>slow hex apollo>he still stuns me from across the opposite end of the lanevery cool nigger hero valve
>>580209150just........stop shooting him for 1 second
>>580208989>imageis this actually good?
>>580209081lategame when you have toxic, siphon, silencer, inhibitor and ricochet to spread all that aids she can absolutely suck off everyone's damage and deal a lot herselfit's just none of her builds transition into it fast enough usually
>>580208430I can't find the artist source for this unironically even with the name on it
>hit them with LightningScroll/Anvil/Slowing Hex Doorman ult>get called slurshave they tried not being shit
>>580209345someone else shot him, dishonest downplayer
>>580208989>farm 60k worth of gun items on graves>still lose to any actual m1gger with less than half the soul investment>die just trying to get in range of an actual m1ggerNo. gun graves is throwing even in seeker.
>>580206414I'm gonna be real with you, the only reason why this game has any playercount period is because of three reasons. 1. It's a """"INVITE ONLY"""" playtest (read super skret club)2. It has Valve's name on it.3. It's not filled with retarded contemporary political idpol horseshit, the type of shit that instantly signals redflags to anyone who hasn't been under a rock the past 14 years.That's it.
>>580209458scroll only kicked in after they come out last time I tried it, did they change it?
>>580209470did you miss the part where he says you'd have to be a mouthbreathing retard to build gun graves
the thing about gun graves is that you're supposed to run like a spastic and make yourself as hard to hit as possible while you're choking m1ggers with your autoaim
>>580201225>in dlg: it's impossible to climb in solo queue because of eomm. every high rank player is abusing duo queue. you can't carry games solo>in the real world:
>>580208104billy is the worst frontliner in the game right now (silver doesnt count)
>>580209734honestly kinda sad because wander has a full time job and a kid, yet he still plays this game 5-6 hours a day. kid is going to grow up without a father
>>580209734ahem. half of those games are played DUO.Most of those were to climb out of the complete coinflip that is Oracle V - Phantom V at this point in time.
>>580208430>offmodel garbage
>>580209948on-model for how she looks after her 3rd pregnancy (all me btw)
>>580209351>banana pancakeshell yeah man theyre worth the effort>>580209675Its a mindgame kinda thing, if you anvil/slowing hex you've got a 80% of a failed Baroness escape which leads into a stun and the lightning scroll procs right after, if you tie into a cart (or double cart stun) you're effectively held someone in a 20 second stun that'll piss them the fuck off
>>580209707>"... you just have to be a mouth breathing retard to ignore her entire kit"learn to read. he said you're a mouth-breathing retard if you ignore her entire kit. well her kit does very little to lend itself to her gun and her gun does very little to lend itself to the rest of her kit.
>shiv>get someone low health>"YER DED">move on to my next victim to tormentshrimple as that
>>580210246
>>580210206>all victor players are mentally ill
>>580209915>Most of those were to climb out of the complete coinflip that is Oracle V - Phantom VIf only he had a match history you could go look through and see that this isn't the case. He played more solo than duo games before Ascendant.
>>580210206thats what he said man
yamato's work in progress doll upskirt is hot
>>580210535look its just easier to blame yoshi than yourself okay???
>>580209720even if she has a 100% hit rate and her target has a 40% to 50%~ hit rate she's going to lose any gun exchange. it's the reason why people that say her auto-aim is broken are stupid ass niggers; her gun damage is balanced around the fact she (almost) never misses and is required to be supplemented by the rest of her kit in a gun exchange. to bad the rest of her kit is dog shit.
>>580210206>you're a mouth-breathing retard if you ignore her entire kit. well her kit does very little to lend itself to her gun and her gun does very little to lend itself to the rest of her kit.THATS EXCACTLY WHAT HE MEANTYOU TWO ARE SAYING THE EXACT SAME SHIT
>allied paige jumps the enemy over my ult
>>580205853Mercurial has always been lowkey, it's just that the heroes who abused it usually got the nerfs instead of the item itself.Now that warden is abusing it + more and more heroes are starting to find value in it, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mercurial get some hefty nerfs (probably by fixing the bug where you get full bonus spirit damage on bullet hit, regardless of charge-up)But that would require Valve to be smart, so they'll just continue to play wack-a-mole, giving random heroes base bullet nerfs for the crime of building an item.
>>580209734Wow, the literal best Ivy player in the world is climbing ranks solo. Maybe the system should allow you to climb ranks solo without requiring you to be literally one of the best players on the planet
2 MORE WEEKS
>>5802119683 more weeks actually, we ain't getting the patch until 28th or after.
>>580210206>he said you're a mouth-breathing retard if you ignore her entire kit. well her kit does very little to lend itself to her gunyeah?Thats what he said?
>>580211135>>580212072ESLers pls go
how do you actually get good at this game?
>>580209948https://files.catbox.moe/djhs8p.jpg
>>580212043wrong!
>>580212282play 2k hours of compjeet brawl subtracts time from that count
>jeet brawl>implying the entire game isn't indian coded ai slop
>>580212332Can you at least warn me it's futa garbage
>>580212186>evasive anon is ESL>cant infer>says something retarded>gets called out>declares others ESLtale as old as time>>580212282you just power through, you'll learn the movement and shooting and abilities much sooner than the farming or other aspects but thats ok, win fights then win farming later, its a slow process.if theres one bit of beginner advice I can offer its to steal the enemy teams side of the maps farms before your own
>>580212784you wanted on-model...
>>580211968I already uninstalled.
>>580212710microslop and tesla are the ones flooded with jeets. valve is flooded with DEI white women.
>>580210206embarrassing post
>>580213018>on-modelGraves does not have huge tits or a horse cock
>>580208189You can hardly go a thread without somebody complaining about March 6th. That patch is quite blatant in how it was just across the board power creep to the entire old roster* because Valve didn't know what to do in order to balance the flawed OGNB roster without reworks that take up precious developer time (didn't help that a lot of them were popular with newcomers and secondaries who don't play the game much, but love talking about it on social media).May 8th (shop rework) came with shiny new toys, so it's not as controversial, but it's uplifting to see more and more anons come to the realization about the true nature of the shop rework. While it might've not been as blatant as the power creep patch that'd you'd expect in a phone gacha or moba, it's still did just as much damage to the overall health of the game. I'm hoping that the upcoming update reverses at least some of the more warping changes from the shop rework (2 more item slots? that'd go a long way in bringing us closer to how this game used to feel).*except vyper and sinclair, valve told you guys to eat shit LMAO.
Whenever I see a Holiday in the game it's either some retard trying her for the first time and loses or an autistic savant who solo carries
>>580212973>>580213289ESLers pls go
Nigga where are the magic carpet buffs?
>>580213882sad
>>580208949Calm down Viscous!
>>580207853ivy's gun is dogshit thoughbeit
>>580214146I accept your concession
FLOPPENTRANNENDEADENCOCKEN
>>580214187throw enough anthrax laced dog shit at someone and you're bound to do some damage
>>580214187Erm the rank one ivy builds gun so its good and im not inting your ranked game by going gun ivy(ignore the fact he is a ex pro csgo player who is just shitting on everyone with his perfect aim and builds troll gun shit all the time)
>>580212973I'm not a beginner I have 400 hours I just play
Speaking of Dynamo, how bad of an idea is it to go ranked with him if I have 0 comms?
>>580215000Its a bad idea to go ranked with any character if you have 0 cooms
>Silver is bad for one patch>youtube feed gets filled with "THE DEATH OF DEADLOCK" videosDo Silvertrannies really?
>>580215000just scream "black hole" as loud as you can into the mic before jumping into the entire enemy team
>>580214187capacitor makes it very good.>>580214493>>580214686t. decay rushing shitters.
>>580215000>>580215075Coms don’t matter, you can ping midFurther evidence: watch any pro vod
>>580215224The pros are on discord with eachother, retard
>>580214714after 400 hours I cant help you man, if you dont get the moba aspect (of whatever you're having trouble with) idk what to say>>580213882lol Indian
>>580215163so true wraith/pocket/lash sister!
>playing Drifter>18 kills and 3 deaths>still lose
>>580213147>white "women"don't look at the steamed machine trailers
Just one more month for the item update....
>be me>queue up deadlock>have retarded team >call them nigger faggots>nigger faggots get triggered>have to carry them>teabag enemy team and call them parry faggots too>everyone triggered >mass report >comm banned>no rankedWhy is this normal? Valve is an American company and America has the freedom of speech. I am an American citizen and they are infringing on my rights. Why is NA filled with troons,faggots and niggers???!?!? I don't want to play standart. No rank upgrade in that mode.
>>580215198capacitor makes any high fire rate gun "very good" (it doesn't make it very good it makes it serviceable)>>580215817I don't understand how so many people struggle with the fact that deadlock isn't deathmatch or whatever. KD doesn't matter and I can almost guarantee you threw objectives to work on or maintain a good KD ratio instead of winning.
>>580215163>>Silver is bad for one patchme when i lie
>>580208430I had a dream recently where I was married to GravesIn the dream I was coming home from work and saw the bedroom door ajar with a green glow coming from within.I silently shed my clothes and burst through to jump on my wife (who was on the bed).But while I was mid-air I noticed that it wasn't my cute Graves wife at all - but instead it was that hag Geist on my bed.As soon as I noticed that I woke up covered in sweat with my heart slamming in my chest and the hardest boner I think I've ever gotten from a dreamJust thought I'd share
>>580216380I tell people to kill themselves at least 3 times a session.you're a SPECIAL type of autistic retard reject loser to get coms banned in Deadlock of all games.reflect, retard.
>>580216480
Holliday is a better zoner than graves
>>580216585telling someone to 'kys' is safe-edgy.
>>580216585Yeah but why is that even a thing? You should just be able to say whatever its literally words on a screen only down syndrome retards care normal people know its just banter.
>>580207853>Yoshi and his team of morons demand that any support who even looks at a gun build is giganerfed to oblivion (except Ivy, of course).Ivy's gun in 2024 went as high as 12 damage at max boonsIn 2025 they changed max boons to 32, and made her gun 4.4+0.16. 9.52 base damage at max boonsToday the max for boons is 35, and Ivy's gun is 4.45+0.08 or 7.52 at max. If you're following along this is a 40% nerf
>>580216720
uninstalled this fucking piece of shit game. first a new mode that cut the legs out of matchmaking, then a matchmaking update that made mm unbearable. fucking retarded devs at valve. these guys make 1M total comp plus equity and still churn out this dogshit. fuck you, your game sucks.
>>580216380"freedom of speech" only extends government censorship or action, not to private companies. also not all speech is protected speech anyway
When are we getting a latina character with a huge ass instead of some stick like ivy.
>>580216727brown zoomer hands typed this
when are getting a voluptuous black mama instead of fucking calicoimagine Geist but she's twice as thick and she's Tom & Jerry black nanny racist caricature coded
Why is this faggot dumping his porn folder in the Deadlock thread?
RETARD... RETAARD... RE RE RE RE RE RE RE RE RE TAAAAAARD TATATATA TATATA TATAT ATA TA TA TA ARD.. RE RE RETARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>get genuine subhuman Rem player who plays with the aggressiveness of a Shiv because he does nothing but play le gun rem in pisslow elo>he has the 15 wins necessary to join and ruin comp games because he got 15 wins with the reddit bird before the ranked update>ends up 40k souls behind (as the soul generator hero) because his brain is wired into a meme build>singlehandedly sunk the gameSubarashi! Thank you so much Yoshi!! Very neato!
>>580216932Muh private coompany. I don't care they want to operate on American soil then they respect the law of the land otherwise they can fuck off to China. Also the other argument literally doesn't matter if you are too offended by words on the web you should not be on the web you are too mentally ill.
They should enable chat for the post-match stats screen.
How do I get a Holliday gf irl?
>>580217056Sloppy job mossad. All nigger 3rd world countries have no concept of free speech. Only white people understand what free speech means.
>>580217414Kill her sister
>>580215719what's even the point of answering to the post when your initial post has no information and then you just throw your hands up. at least tell him to watch pro games or something
I call people nigger in-game but through voice. If you type nigger I report you because you're a pussy bitch whose not man enough to say it in voice.
>>580217414Murder an entire townLead her to New York as she seeks revenge against you ???Profit?
I accept your concussion
>>580217327constitutional law says they can mute you for any reason including no reason. only the government can't censor you. I know you're shitposting with a made up scenario but I decided to repeat the first part of my post that you ignored because it completely destroys your act so I can watch you try to ignore it again with your next shitpost.
>>580217561this but completely unironically
Fuck dota rules nerf everyone
>>580217561This nigga is using voice chat for deadlock, you only need the go mid ping.
>>580217650>made up btwThis happens way too often cuz of woke nigger faggots on NA who need to bullied out of the game. Sick of troons infesting and ruining every online game.
>>580217458you don't need a concept of free speech to have a shit take. normal, moderately-adjusted people don't want to hear/read "banter" from retards (who can't even take their own banter ironically).
>>580218217I can though I do not care if someone calls me whatever I was raised on MW2 CoD lobbies. I do not like it when modern games tell me no even though I have free speech cuz I live in America that's where the problem is.
>>580218152Trying too hard
>>580218152>Sick of troons infesting online gamesUnless Trump makes troon killing legal it's going to be like this until nukes launch. But he's too busy sucking off Israel to help America.
>>580218391Yeah you're right its my fault trying to solo carry 5 retards on my team and giving them the win last game. Heaven forbid I want to win in the ranked game mode.
>>580218530We don't even need to do that back when I was in school we called each other faggot and when I graduated high school there was no troons. Now that you can't bully faggots for being faggots you get them everywhere. We need to bring back and normalize bullying.
>>580218152I'm well aware people get reported for acting like animals on mic or in chat and subsequently get banned all the time. the "made up" part is referring to the initial post >>580216380which supposedly prompted him to make the post (and not just something he made up on the spot to be a faggot on 4chan)
>>580215530You can get the vids with coms and hear them moaning double retard
>>580218356how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>580218803But I did have breakfast this morning.
>>580218803hungry. for mina. sexually.
>>580218803but i did have breakfast this morning
>>580218667Nigger I am the same person. >>580218803I am an OMAD chad.
>>580217538>first post comes off as a unsure rookie>give basic confidence building advice>response is someone that should've learned the game by nowwhat is he reasonably supposed to say
So whatever happened to gun is supposed to outscale spirit?
>>580219195The existence of geist and wraith fundamentally broke the balance of the game
>>580219195This hasn't been a thing since 2024.
HOLLIDAY MOMMY SEX CUM FUCK VAGINA SQUIRT RAPE ME
>>580218803i'd probably just rape geist or something
>>580218803fine, i didnt have breakfast this morning
>>580218356
the game giving me short-bus teammates 6 matches in a row is starting to get old
>>580219447so when do we start bitching about spirit dmg?
Horrible thread lads
>>580219956>literally lists right there what speech cannot be punished by companies as per government rulesjust expand that, duh
>>580219195>>580219447It’s still a thing, average game just ends before it happens
>>580220136if you get caught up in arguments with the mentally ill that only come here to scream into the void, you invite that retardation into your space.never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
what are bricklo games like
>>580187360If you nerf slowing hex you have to also nerf most movement in the game
>>580220920I accept your concession
>>580220920>uses le ebin quote like every other midwit retardhmm
>>580216480was she eating a borgor?
>>580221283>storm cloud>abhrams
see how they lash out when you call them out?if you just ignore them they'll just keep talking to themselves instead and you guys can keep talking about that retarded haze that went 0-12 in your game instead.
>>580220930Whoever wins the team fight at 30 minutes and rushes Mid wins the game 90% of the time, pretty much nothing else matters
>>580220930Fun
>melee sinclair just loses his shit, calls everybody trannies and cries about multiplayer vidya being occupied by "you people"I know you're here man. You just suck at the game like everybody else, it's alright.
>>580221646That’s all ranks tho
>>580221346stupid?
>>580221343No food allowed on the bed
>>580220603shouting "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" over the mic isn't protected speech like whistleblowing.
>Wanting an updateWhy? Its going to be shit.I was so excited for Graves during that batch of heroes and was so let down. Not only that but she's the worst hero in the fucking game.
>>580221283I'm almost as shocked as Kaya from this edit.
>>580221962that'll get you banned, but graphic homosexual ERP won't, thus that is protected and my niggers are not
Does superior duration make mina's ultimate last longer? or its purely based on bat count?
>>580221995>was so let downwhyz dat
>>580221995>Not only that but she's the worst hero in the fucking game.lol
>>580221995mirage and silver are easily the worst, and graves is like top 5
>>580220604Better patch the game to end even faster!
>>580221995graves might be dog shit but her hentai has me busting nuts
>>580222827always trying to sneak Mirage into low tier, kek
>>580217147That is a great concept actuallyImagine a black nanny (who is a smoke person just like Haze) who is a port of Spirit Breaker chasing you around the map with a shoeIt'd fit within the setting as well
>>580223025this pic is evil stop bullying rem :(
>>580223113he's a single target delayed/deniable burst hero with a teleport, he is uselessno amount of appealing to 0.001% of the playerbase and their exclusive secret tranny discord clubs will refute that
>>580216753she has perma-tether, incredible capacitor usage, and the rest of her kit is still incredibly strong in an m1 carry context.what dynamo got in march 6th patch is the equivalent of removing the outgoing damage buff on ivy ult and replacing it with a free boundless spirit like kelvin or yamato. technically a buff to the hero, but a massive nerf to gun playstyles.
Geist is the most fun heroBomb build is absolute butt cheeks outside of brick, but it's crazy fun there
>>580223469stomp headshot gun combos were degenerate and too easy to do doeI also recall teleport being way stronger that also buffed the gun for even stronger burst. not sad to see it go, he was a lane rapist and his gun was better than the shotgun heroes
>>580223334it makes my pp into the big pp tho
>>580223543>GeistFunny way to spell Ivy
>>580223859rem is for love ok
>>580223769He was never good in lane and the headshots were also kind of mid because of the velocity
>>580221283anytime im seven or warden vs silver i all chat "PLACE SILVER"
>>580224059https://files.catbox.moe/du5pwu.jpg
>>580164686this. so much this
>hero called silver>ends up in second place every gamehuh
I feel like hybrid Apollo should be good, but I just can't get it to function nicely. Perhaps it should start as a typical spirit lane terrorist and then move into hybrid later on, but it just seems so plausible
>>580224089nahI remember headshot booster and unnerfed berserker dynamo too. good riddance.
>>580221995>the amount of people now force to standard when new heroes come out>voting>one hero per releasebuwahahahaha
>>580171819>gravity gun tech but with zombieswhy hasn't this been implemented yet when the map is littered with fucking crates again? did we forget this engine was literally made for physics or some crap?
>>580224343ludonarrative harmonyshe's a stupid lazy drunk ingrate, it's only proper that she not win
i see the tranny graves downplayers are back in force again
>>580224496>hairy pitstrumblr artists hate attractive women. I don't get it.
>>580172105>>580224446graves lobbing exploding zombies just turns her into holliday 2.0 tho, probably even stronger
>>580224578do you honestly think silver would bother to shave? she doesn't even do her laundry
>>580224414I have literally like 200 dynamo games from that period, he was mogged by actual lane hitlers Headhunter was very popular and good burst but as I said because of velocity outside of stomped it was inconsistent And nobody ran berserker
>>580224762furry pussy......
>>580224762>ITS LORE ACCURATEFaggot, I do not not care in the slightest.
>>580224797those were the early days where nobody knew how to play, berserker was amazing on dynamo and any other tanky gun hero. I ran berserker + frenzy constantly on gun abrams when he could legit carry
>>580223769yeah, and you now instead had a single stomp raping you for 60% of your HP mid and late because it got damage and scaling buffs, QE being a budget dispel magic on a 10 second cooldown, and the numerous urn changes pumping ult stocks to the moon.But hey, at least he can't land a single headshot to deal less damage than what a single stomp did after march 6th before it got multiple nerfs to bring it in line, nor use quantum to reload anymore.
>>580218530Trump wants troons. That's what you retarded /pol/frogs don't get.The more troons, the more you're focused on them or other trifles instead of things that actually matter like the elite ripping you off or diverting all money to Israel or what have you.
>>580220603Denying a service != reprimand and/or being fired
>>580224913stomps were easier to land then, iirc they lowered the hitbox at some point.
>>580224941>implying I'm a MIGAtard
>>580224854Well I do, and I'm not gonna be dissuaded by you going>"w-w-welll i don't care!!"
>>580224805Fur covered, puffy, juicy cookie
they arent removing this from the game btw
>>580225658nooooooo stop moving! you're not allowed to move! stand still and let me punch you nooooooooooooooo
>>580225658>>580225761DO NOT SUMMON HIM
>>580224941>/pol/frogsYou don't have to censor yourself here, little twitchnigger
>>580225658They really just have to make it cost stamina. Stamina is one of the game's core mechanics, if you spend your stamina you're not meant to be able to run away. The problem with tech like this is that it allows you to go extremely fast while spending no stamina, and that's just broken.
>>580225197You don't actually care. You are just happy its "lore accurate" that a character caters to your sensibilities of poor hygiene and uglyness.
>>580225658hello hoe guck
>>580225658>see some retard shmooving around like this in a match>pop split shot so I don't even have to aim hard and mag dump into them>they die
>>580226018And you do care, you need to make seethepost after seethepost to tell me how much you don't care
anyone else remember the first week of this game's floodgates opening and that one mcginnis was terrorizing streamers by "ruining" their games. all he did was play pure macro and push down lanes, dying then doing it again lol.
>>580224941>trump bans pronouns from government institutions and trans from sports>trump wants troons
you can buy these items on any hero
>hey guys i need 800 for my next 6k can we not fight them now>entire team goes and fights a 5v6wow comms are amazing bro!
>>580226310https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1Msu-oWRU424134 DID NOTHING WRONGFREE MY BOY
>>580226592lmao awesome thank you for this, had no idea someone made a compilation
>>580225658They should though
>>580226592He is still banned?
>>580226216LOL 85
>>580226592He would have loved magic carpet graves
>pedophiles on the epstein island server are ruining the game with horrible feedback as we speakit's grim
>>580226721No worries bro>"We lost.">Huh?>"Yeah this guy's just always running it down. I mean, he kills the base, but... Yeah, we lost."It's so fucking funny how they think he's the bad guy even while they're saying he's good, like their neurons just aren't making the connectionEven that one eternoid streamer at the end is still crying "BAN HIM" after his team outright makes a plan around 424's pushing and uses it with a godly macro play to win the fucking game
>>580226346>superficial poltics that rile up troons and thus create more animosity between chuds and troonsYes. That's what he wants.
>>580225870My bad I usually say /pol/fags idk why I said frogs. I was just on my way to take a shower, and left a quick drive by reply. Maybe that made me more politically correct, idk.
>>580227171"..and then.. and then he types OW in the chat when he dies" streamerman says through huffs and puffs and teary eyes
>>580227548>>580227548>>580227548
>>580227192if trump was using troons as a distraction then doing nothing would've done more to keep the spotlight away from him.>superficial poltics that rile up troons and thus create more animosity between chuds and troonsyou have to be at least 18 to post on 4chan
>>580227596>if trump was using troons as a distraction then doing nothing would've done more to keep the spotlight away from him.idk how you can genuinely believe this but whatever your masters in Israel tell you, I guess.>uhm underageBeen here longer than you, election tourist
>>580227753>let's unite with the troons to bring down Israeltrannies are a jewish invention thoughbeit
>>580227847Yes, you get it now. Invented to keep you distracted, and it's working.
>>580227753>been here longer than youYeah I'm sure you're a real "oldfrog" lmao
>>580227753it's simple really:>trump does nothing = months and months of more incidents of troons exposing themselves in women's locker rooms and women getting hospitalized from troons in combat sports>media focuses on that instead of trumpvs>trump bans pronouns in government institutions and trans in women sports = a week's worth of TDS coveragethis isn't conjecture btw this is how it went down.
>>580227981>he doesnt codeswitchYou're not supposed to reveal your powerlevel irl, but you newfags don't seem to know that.
>>580228217>[HEADCANON]Yeah I accept your concession.
>>580228442I accept your concession
>>580228552>no uAs expected of a coonlow shitposter.
>>580228609I accept your second concession
ok but who caresI want movement trannies out of deadlockremove all the movement bugs now please
>>580229082you want movement trannies out of a game you don't even play, movement schizo?
IN NOMINE PATRISET FILII SPIRITVS SANCTIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMnXhAFW0vc
>>580229130I played 5 matches today>everyone who has the same opinion is 1 personyou are the schizo
>>580226153>someone moving around like that in a matchdoesn't happen in your shitter rat elo
>>580229459sure you did
>>580229082>remove movement bugs that come stock from the engine itself
>>580225658movementslop
>>580229547so you admit they're bugs and players who use them are exploiting then
>>580225894He has fast stamina onThat maneuver costs all 3 stamina>glide jump with free wallbounce>air dash 1 stam>wallbounce 1.5 stam>corner boost 2 stam>double jump 3 stamYou regen maybe 1 stam in time for the double jump so 2 stam heroes can do it
>>580229527schizo behaviour
>>580229707more like you're expecting valve to go tweak source engine which won't happen.
>>580225658genuinely do not understand why he gets the super mario jump off the trash bin
>>580213764>lane partner is holliday>watch her roll the barrel across the lane and shoot it to detonate it
