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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9577 - Scraping the Barrel edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 16 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 09 December 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthg-links
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Sonurge
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fat tiddies
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>>580363023
This movie was retarded. This bitch was killing innocent people left and right. She literally raped Spiderman for shits and giggles. She gets away with it because muh misunderstanding.
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First Bar- Second Barry of the thread!
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Wave swallows
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Thoughts on Quark?
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Oh! My! Gosh! Silver, I’m so PROUD of you for finding someone you love in Dapple! I can picture you now in BED, having steamy hot DEER SEX and it makes my kitty cunt SO FUCKING WET! Just think of it, Silver. Your THICK, PERFECT COCK in HER DEEP DEEP DEER HOLE! SUFFERING SUCCOTASH! You two have fun now. Blackwood? Is that you? You’ve come to BRAINWASH ME AGAIN?! YES PLEASE! STEAL MORE OF MY MEMORIES! MAKE ME MORE SUBSERVIENT TO YOU! I’m SO HAPPY you’re FUCKING MY MIND and NOTHING ELSE! YYYYYYYYABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>580363609
I hope she's having a nice night.
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We need Cuckze spam now, go on, it's time to redeem Chadver
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IDW uses tears to shallowly provoke emotion from the reader without actually writing anything emotional and using proper build up. It's like "This character is crying! Feel sad!"
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>All of that food

He really is gonna Hansel & Gretel them
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>>580363609
If she says anything about Shadow I believe it without question. Hell, anything about Sonic at all really. She has the credibility and deserves the respect.
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>>580363714
>>580363810
You sure love glazing yourself
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>>580363863
I'm not going to get into this with you today
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I love Shadria!
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Tell me more about this.
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>>580363791
Next panel will be silver and blaze comically giant bellies after eating too much haha...
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>>580364112
This OC has been taking cock for mutliple decades now
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>>580364103
She won't admit it but Sonic inspires her, she'll either get embarrased or pretend to be upset when someone asks her.
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>>580363609
Bad person who runs 60 bots on the general to pretend more than one person likes Shadria
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>>580364103
ugly, generate sonic getting his ass clapped by knuckles instead
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>>580364847
That pairing is ooc
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sleep in lanolin's fluff
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I think Thats enough for tonight, sleep tight Anons
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>>580363791
Do you think the caramel fire buns taste good?
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>>580366018
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>>580366018
The interior of that palace feels anything but grim, i get they wanted to copy a church, but for the sake of my catholic autism where are the statues, the candles, the creepy paintings...
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>>580363714
You too
>>580363810
You too
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>Checks if Sonic is part of the Steam chivo list leak
>He is
>It's just for Sonic Pico Park and a collab with a card game
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>>580363609
Quark is the secret, good alter ego of our beloved shadow yume.
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>>580366494
kek
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>it took this long for Silver to get a psychic rival
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I'm tired of cuckolding.
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>>580367225
Blackwood isn't psychic
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>>580363102
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>>580367320
I don't think we get enough
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>>580363643
Moar
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>>580364094
Everyone does.
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>>580367794
>i don't think
Thinking is overrated.
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There isn't even actual cuckolding in this issue. not even the kind that can be memed for jokes
>>580367320
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>>580365264
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Is this era already over?
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>>580368670
There isn't but obviously there will be. It's funny that the cuckold memes always involve Blaze. The royal town bicycle
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>>580368670
I mean the shitty jokes, not the issue.
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>>580368854
The era of nothing happening.
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>>580368815
Roads will never ever improve
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>>580368854
Sonic Jam is missing.
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>>580369126
Good.
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>>580368981

Sonic character dynamics are so nothing that people will think one blush from embarrasment is equal to fucking (which she also does for silver and even amy of all people) not that either sonic or silver would give a shit anyway.
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rape
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anon's, rate the voice acting
https://litter.catbox.moe/s5p22jnhnh0w9h7j.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/z6ye8f.mp4
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>>580368854
Saturn era might be even worse than the later half of the 2000's and 2010's
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>>580369483
It's funny
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It seems we got a name for the purple maid. Now we can properly tag her.
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>>580369125
Does the Metal vs everyone animation count as something or not?
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>>580369630
Blaze should've been amy's rival/shadow thing, trying to tie her to sonic and (light) sonic has been a failure.
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>>580369791
Did that come out already?
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Play Sonic Dream Team. Eggman literally kidnaps Cream because she is "pure of heart" and he needs her to filter a reality-warping relic. Amy is right there in the rescue party and Sonic is sprinting through Eggman's entire dreamscape just to get Cream back. He is literally playing Mario saving Princess Peach. Except unlike Peach, Cream actually gets the final blow on Eggman by having Cheese slap the sleep button on his console while everyone else is standing around. Sonic is the hero, Cream is the pure-hearted princess. Amy is just a background NPC in the relay race to save Sonic's girl. Sega is writing it right in front of your face and you still cope. Also ages are gone from canon so don't even start.
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>>580369504
Sorry
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>>580369860
I can dig it.
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>>580367986
Golly gee willikers, Silver! Staying at this castle forever was the BEST idea you’ve ever had! I LOVE it here! I get a WHOLE SHED TO MYSELF! HOW GREAT IS THAT? AY CARAMBA! Is that DAPPLE? I must be in PARADISE! I get to watch as you thrust your SHARP, TANGY HEDGEHOG PENIS into Dapple’s DEEP, WARM PUSSY again? And AGAIN? AND AGAIN? Each time coming out WETTER and TASTIER THAN BEFORE? WOWIE KAZOWIE, I BET IT MUST TASTE SOOOOO GOOD FOR DAPPLE! THAT’S IT! SLOBBER ALL OVER IT! MAKE IT YOUR’S! Oh, Blackwood. I didn’t see you there. What’s that? YOU’RE GOING TO FUCK MY MIND AGAIN! YES! YES! PLEASE! GET A HOLD OF MY BRAIN! SCRAMBLE MY SENSES! MAKE MY EGO YOUR BITCH! I’M GONNA FEEL THIS IN THE MORNING! YYYYYYYYYABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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>>580369843
If they showed it it's because it's coming out soon
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>>580367986
>>580370171
Both of you kill yourselves, and if you are samefagging, kill yourself two times
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>>580369791
The movies count as something... i guess.
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>>580370149
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>>580370171
So it's mutual cuckoldry then. Finally, one victory for Silverchads
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>>580370313
Getting pissed off at the cuckposts only makes them funnier.
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you could be drawing Sanic right now
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>>580370531
True, but I'm far too busy playing with my penis.
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Kirrusu youruseffu, whytu piggu >:(
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>>580370531
True, I could, but I'm writing.
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>>580370835
Anything fun?
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>>580370798
is that you krack?
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>>580371102
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>>580370912
A short story about the end of summer and fireworks.
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>>580371102
>Gamer content in 2026
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Tails the cuck.
Scourge the bvll.
Fiona the stacy.
https://mega.nz/folder/IRw0RB7L#AHpjwd6KwrZC2Yfqy4cqgg/folder/ABpzTQBB
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>>580371365
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>>580371365
>>580371436
Team KEKAILS
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Mobiusunleashed and its consequences...
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Mobius Unleashed and it's based
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Shit Nofoxo cares about.
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>>580369860
Who
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>Shit Nofoxo cares about.
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>Scourge the bvll.
Was raped in a prison shower, without powers even fiona is stronger than him.
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>>580372283
Archie really sounds bad
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>>580372394
Scourge is simply a faggot, the prison arc shows how weak of a fag he really is and can't really counter anyone without a squad cleaning his ass.
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>>580372283
>>580372535
>Scourge the bvll.
>Was raped in a prison shower, without powers even fiona is stronger than him.
>Scourge is simply a faggot, the prison arc shows how weak of a fag he really is and can't really counter anyone without a squad cleaning his ass.
You literally proved this was all an act and for show and Fiona still is for Scourge cock. And taking someone's powers away and someone later beating that same powerless person isn't really the "own" you think it is.
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'iona!
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Archie faggots should be hanged by trees
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>>580372843
Why do you hate us? Are you an IDW fan?
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>>580372843
Cuckails...
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>>580372843
rude
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>>580370531
Colored bunria, Shadow will be colored too but i only recently redrew and did base colors on him.
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>>580372843
tell tailspedos to stop flooding /sthg/ and maybe we'll stop
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Fiona VVON. Tails LOST
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>>580372910
Will need some time before i can send png unfortunately.
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>>580372715
They all had the rings to neutralize powers or at least limit their abilities, and scourge still ended up as everyone's punching bag. Even fiona calls that kind of pathetic and scourge's only reply was "it's le heckin collar!".

>don't worry, it's just for show
UNCLE! UNCLE!
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>>580372715
some surgefags here hate scourge
that guy however >>580372843 is probably amybestie
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>>580373062
>Powered Scourge gets to top Fiona's pussy
>Powerless Scourge gets to experience sweet Fiona Femdom
This is a win-win
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The idw issues are pretty uneventful considering the shitstorm made about them before.
>No uwuver, but the characterization silver has is too minimal to be either praised or be offended at.
>No ''shipping''
>Nothing that gives any material for ''cuck'' jokes either
>Dapple gets more focus than silver, blaze and blackwood did
>Mind control was revealed by synopsis and preview already so nothing we don't know is revealed.

Maybe blazefag/sonazefags crowd will somehow sperg about silver being the reason blaze didn't do anything this issue somehow but i don't see anyone else saying something groundbreaking, at least the aesthetics are cool.
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>>580372796
Fi'!
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>>580372910
incredibly cute! I look forward to seeing the final comp
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I don't understand people who want Archie back when all available options for it are terrible
>Penders confirms he would have dismantled the core pairing for an ending that sounds like it's pandering to JP purists in a weird way
>Flynn would turn everyone gay for internet cred
>Evan would soften everyone and turn everyone gay because she thinks it's cute
>Bollers would just turn it into a Sonamy book
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>>580372715
yeah it was all for the scourge and fiona prison escape plan
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>>580373259
I'll comeback when the times are better. i might be a 70yo unc by then if i was still alive. but i might read it
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>>580373353 (Me)
>unc
70yo gramps**
also bollers is not a sonamyfag. he was probably sick of pulling the rope against penders with sally and the other girls
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>>580373239

I am kind of confused what the bg can be or if it needs any background colors or things at all, maybe some chao + gradient?
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>>580373062
This just makes Fiona even more of the ultimate Stacy and she still sticks with Scourge. Fails could never.
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>>580373521
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KILL FIONAFAGS AND ARCHIEFAGS
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>>580373278
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kill all tailsfags on sight
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>>580373639
>deploying tactical TRVKE
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>>580373661
character heights
Vanilla, Eggy, Sonic, Cream from left to right
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>>580373704
>Chart that makes Sonic a complete sexless faggot. Nuking all ships instead
You didn't think this through, "bestie"schizo.
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I like all my sthg friends.
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>>580373737
I see, thanks.
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>>580373259
I like Archie well enough but I don't imagine a world where it comes back with a good turnout. There's really nothing to gain from bringing it back.
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>>580373815
we kneel stacyiona
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>>580373806
wind and stuff
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>>580373815
If you really mean it you'll post your boobs.
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>>580373661
>>580373737
Yeah, that's it.
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>>580373828
thinking about what it used to do 20 years ago then looking at todays world and media. i say it was a product of its time. it's gonna be tough trying to push it today to the sonic fandom. unless you are fine with a small target audience since most archiefags have already retired. it needs a different world similar to the one we had in the 90s and 00s to sustain itself.
that being said I feel home sick nigga wow
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>>580373505
you could combine the idea, a gradient with a Chao pattern across the back
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long time no see ni-
>"Invalid uploader"
shit then i'll do it like this
https://file.garden/aqERGxdM9Rm6Ha0L/divide%20me%20if%20you%20can.mp3
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>>580374194
>unless you are fine with a small target audience since most archiefags have already retired.
You're talking as if sonicfags don't eat everything branded "sega".
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>>580375238
fair point...
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Penders was always a jp purist. He wanted to write Sonic and Tails adventure stories in the 90s but Archie corporate demanded he revive Sally when he wanted to kill her off for real. Most of what "Archie fans" like about the series was a mistake or a result of corporate meddling. Penders vision for Sonic is just JP purism but with more echidna and technofascism commentary/critique. Something a lot of Archie's braindead chud audience hates.
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>>580375532
eh not really
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>>580374101
Free-to-play shooter or something. Popular with the kids.
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>>580375684
What I said is true. Look it up. Dan Drazen talked about it. He wanted to make the comic just Sonic and Tails adventure stories but Archie editorial demanded romance b plots and Sally being kept around.
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>>580375785
if that part is true then i'd understand why penders and bollers were sick of sally. i'd hate my life too if i was forced to write romance slop. eventhough i like sally
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>>580375785
that's not "jp purism" that's just writing sonic stories. jp purism means no "westo shitto from non-japanese person"
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>>580375661
>For the non-moonrune readers.
Vanilla (130.0cm)
Eggman (185.0cm)
Cream (70.0cm)
Sonic (100.0)
Shadow (100.0)
Maria (140.0cm)
Gerald (170.0cm)
Knuckles (80.0cm)
Tails
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I guess the creatives are at fault, but sega sucks the most because the company can't manage the creatives.
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I was right that this issue wouldn't have uwuver
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>>580376148
Soon™.
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>>580376258
Will the evan sperging stop if the next 2 issues doesn't have uwu either?
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>>580376148
Silver has no characterization in this issue at all. He speaks three times.
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>>580376137
>the west is destroying the characters but it is still le japs fault even tho sonic is totally a westie franchise and japs don't matter
kill yourself.
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>>580376337
The mannerisms and body language also matter, which there isn't uwu of.

but yes Dapple will unfortunately hog spotlight of Silver and blaze.
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>>580376367
>Strawman
>Ignoring that soj has veto and could shut down IDW if they want to
Sega of Japan has no quality control. Stop treating a garbage company as a church of God.
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Put Randomfox and Violet in charge. They understand Sonic
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>>580376532
Hi, Violet.
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>>580376296
Probably not, but I'm no fortune teller.
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>>580376582
I'm not that anon. What do you want?
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Wow
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>>580376043
Yeah, I also wanted to include others, but I thought it would be too crowded.
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>>580377025
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Can Shadow Chaos Control large objects? Like a car or bus or something?
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>>580376367
No, you kill yourself. And take sega with you, the most incompetent company in history.
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>>580373221
>Dapple gets more focus than silver, blaze and blackwood did
Evan's new pet character.
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>>580378419
She’s the development character. Silver and Blaze are there to give supportive one-liners and handle any fights. Just like Sonic.
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>>580373221
I don't know what to tell you anon. Histories has a beginning, a middle and an end . You expect to get the whole thing in only the first issue? That's not how it works
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>>580378419
I wish silver and blaze gets used in blade of courage somewhere so we get anything from japanese side that's more substantial than channel art or racing game fodder.

it's a slim possibility, but imada drew them for expo.
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>>580378652
3 issues is too minimal for the middle and end to be substantial if the beginning was nothing
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>>580378786
Blame executives. Evan said she wants to make longer arcs like the Phantom rider one
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>Dapple is yet ANOTHER crying character.
Make it stop.
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>>580379036
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>>580378174
Only ever seen him (with Sonic) do it to the ARK IIRC.
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>>580379018
>lame executives.
Didn't Daniel Barnes say he was the one who pushed for shorter arcs?
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>>580379036
>>580379064
She is much more rude than Belle, and she cries because her head hurts
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>>580379120
Barnes is just a writer. He can push with as much force as we can
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>>580379140
still a crying lesbo
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>>580379018
Well if she's doing shorter formats she should've paced the story faster for issue 1 and maybe give more focus to the characters actually supposed to be focal. I don't actually schizo about evan as much as the people do here but still.
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>>580379118
He also did it in Sonic X during the Metarex arc, I believe. But those were in his Super form.
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>>580379140
When do you cry from your head hurting?
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You guys just hate Evan no matter what she does. It isn't even real criticism anymore. You just decided everything she does is bad.
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>>580379663
When you head hurts
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>>580379812
>be me 3 years ago
>re read idw from beginning because was out of touch
>wow this.... sucks. maybe i'm just too old for sonic now
>replay old sonic games and re read archie
>omg this is so kino. this is based. wow so it's idw that is shit...
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Blackwood is too handsome to be evil. We have to ask Sega to spare him and keep him around as an ally
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>>580379663
You’ve never needed prescription drugs for chronic migraines and I envy you.
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Some of you retards are so stupid you forget that we hate the comics for being OOC not just for being comics
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What does Evan do again?
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>>580380413
Uwu baby cinnamon roll crapnthst appeals to lgbtqqbcdefg freaks like Lettuce
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>>580380443
This issue had none of this tho.
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>>580380413
She draws Sonic in a cute way which makes me want to have sex with him
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>>580380496
Daple is another Evan self insert
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>>580380552
>Evan Werehog
mmmmmm…
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JP Purists buy 100 dollar shadally fanfics now
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They remembered Bean and Bark exist, kek.
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>>580381049
Bean Bark and Fang being friends is archieshit
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>>580381076
They aren't friends, remember? AM2 made sure of that.
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>>580380961
Shadally is canon and in character. Shadow and Sally fuck. If you disagree that means you hate Sonic and you're a westshitter. Sonurge is canon too.
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Sonic's lover
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...is amy rose.
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For the love of Gaia.
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Why were the echidna tribes so poor and primitive? While the rest of the world already invented paper and books, echidnas sculpted stones to write la savages. The phenotype must be related to their intelligence, just saying
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What are the chances TGS reveals something about the next game? some people were theorizing ST was purposefully hiding from SOA, so maybe TGS can reveal something?
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>>580382294
We are not racist, we believe in socio-economic conditions forcing the echidna to act like NIGGERS
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>>580382387
They'll show a in-game screenshot of Sonic's ass and that's about it
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it has been more than 2 years since this post
>Our new (not for sale) figure is available at our office!
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Shadally is not in character. Shadow would not have any romantic interest in Princess Sally Acorn for any reason whatsoever. The joke has been distorted by time somehow. Shadow's one true love has been and will always be Maria.
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>>580383121

Krack why do you even bother with this, Shadally is mostly just funny bait rather than something that will be actually mainstream within the fanbse.
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>>580383249
she is tsuntsun for shadally. she wants to self insert as sally and dom shadow
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>>580383121
KRACKIAN TRVTH NVKE
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V-vixen pussy....
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kenpenkun is seething about tracy yardly for selling echidna fanart
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>>580383659
Dapple is a deer
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>>580383780
Sega should lift their asses for once and send letters to all these faggots.
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>>580383780
*autistic screeching*
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>>580383829
Who cares, it's a granny OC.
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>meanwhile Jeff Fowler uses Locke and Enerjak with no repercussions from anyone
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>>580383880
>>580383949
how is this or kenpens shadally fanfic any different from any sonic fan selling fan merch or fan art or taking comissions? all of them are making money using sonic. i doubt they will care unless you got big enough capital and worth being sued. kenpen meanwhile is so broke that he is working on a book about ixis naugus because someone paid for it
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>>580383949
>65$ for a fiona pic
>35$ for infinite
>65$ for julie-su
My God i don't know who's a bigger faggot between tranny shartley or kennie, but it's probably kennie since he abused shadow's trademark.
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Any day Pender is mad is a good day for me. Good day everyone
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>>580383391
>>580383305
>>580383249
I don't even sound like her
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>>580384083
>from any sonic fan selling fan merch or fan art or taking comissions?
Lunch money VS penders/ian/famous artist being a fucking hack.
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>>580384356
ok cool. but are they worth going to court with? how many shekels can you make out of sueing kenpenkun?
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>>580384439
Well, they're still risking it.
Personally i would sue them all, you either pay royalties or all your work must be for free, you can't set up a shop over my work.

But there's a limit to this, under-the-table commission deals cannot be materially stopped.
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>>580384640
you'd be seeing a lot of people at court lol. and you'd making so little money since most of them are already shit broke. otherwise they wouldn't be drawing hellokitty the hedgehog for money to make a living
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'iona!
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>>580385112
smug fiona
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>>580384998
Anon, i wouldn't care if a teen makes a bunch of money that's a positive way to make more artists. But we're talking about adults claiming shit as their own.
>since most of them are already shit broke
They better get a job as a shop assistant lile i did in the past, they would make more money.
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>>580363791
[Verse 1]
Silver hedgehog, future dreams
Dirty boots, frayed seams
Turnip soup, tattered cloak
Common blood, that's no joke
Royal court, golden throne
You came in all alone
Market stall, two rings paid
Bow your head right now, I said!
[Chorus]
You'll always be a peasant!
It was set since birth, yes since the kingdom's turning
You'll always be a peasant!
No, it's not your fault,
But the crown, it still burns!
[Verse 2]
Carriage rides, velvet robes
Silver sweeps, castle roads
Tax collectors at the door
Silver owes the Crown three more
Feast night, Silver stares
Through the window--don't you dare!
Titles sealed, bloodlines locked
You're just good at farmin' rocks!
You'll always be a peasant!
It was set since birth, yes since the kingdom's turning
You'll always be a peasant!
No, it's not your fault
But the crown, it still burns!
[Verse 3: Blackwood enters]
Lord Blackwood, silver tongue
Leaning in, his charm begun
Low voice, slow smile, candle glow
Whispered promises, wouldn't ya know
"Come with me, I'll change your stars,
Gift you silks and fishy treats
Give you lands, titles grand,
Just one kiss upon my hand!"
Silver flustered, turns away
Blaze rolls eyes, had her say,
Blackwood winks, tips his trap
Goes right back into catnap!
"NO, back on track!"
Castle walls, knight's command
Silver mops the royal hall
Courtiers laugh, jugglers jape
Silver's stuck with rake and scrape
Purple cloak, jewel-crown
Blaze looks down with half a frown
"You're sweet," she sighs, "but face the truth,
You're in the dirt beneath my boot!"
[Final Chorus: building, dramatic]
You'll always be a peasant!
It was set since birth, yes since the kingdom's turning
You'll always be a peasant!
No, it's not your fault
But the crown still burns! Still burns!
[Outro: spoken]
Blaze: ...Though, between us,
I hear the nobleman's estate
is quite accommodating.
You could do worse, Silver.
Silver: ...What does that mean?
Blaze: Never mind...Go wax something with your head.

You'll Always Be A Peasant!
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i set out to beat every sonic game but i dont think i can do it bros
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>>580385112
*steals your pic*
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>>580385112
kek, palcomix
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>>580385425
was it Chronicles?
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Same energy
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>>580386042
blazebesties on suicide watch
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Classickino won. Classichads won.
Modernshit lost. Modern tards lose again.
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>>580385993
sonic maze craze flash game level 3 is too hard
rivals/2 are too boring
shuffle is boring and unpredictable
educational games are boring
tails sky patrol was awful and couldnt stomach it after 2 levels

i was holding off on dark chronicle assuming it would be a fun rpg but you suspecting that doesnt give me much hope.

im starting riders 1 right now but people seem to say its stupid high skill floor
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>>580386184
Moderntards...I...
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>>580385573
Th-thanks for announcing it, Fi-chan...
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>>580386184
classic won
modern is done
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>>580386358
>Fi-chan
Wait a second... i though i was the 'iona!
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>>580382294
They were a patriarchy before Pachacamac took over. No thats not me being a chidd. That's canon.
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>>580386860
>patriarchy
Why did it autocorrect *Matriarchy into Patriarchy? Fucking google glowies.
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>>580386608
I lost track, 'iona-sama..gomennasai...
*dies*
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Douge
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>>580351254
I dont think it would make her more liked. It just makes her less hated by the people who specifically hate her or wanna ship her with other characters. In my experience, people are way less passionate about Amy now as a character.

>>580351263
It's something I've actually noticed more and more over time.
It's become its own kind of indulgent BS where they add it for no reason or contrive contexts to justify adding it for its sake to virtue signal.

Also yes I know its a spongebog meme.
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>>580386994
Don't be silly, fictional foxes can't die (unless everyone forgets they exist).
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>>580387045

Honestly what they actually want to do is push the sonic/shadow thing with amy or the other characters mostly being there for ''themes'', but virtue signalling removed even the ''themes'' part so there's not much left.
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>>580387183
Oh yeah!
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Place your bets on mindcontrolled Blaze by the end of the castle wolfenstein arc
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>>580386223
Sonic Chronicles is genuinely a very poorly put together game and it takes a special type of mindset to like it. By that I mean nostalgia.
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Sally
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>>580387405
What do you mean it's already on the solicitation
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>>580387405
>Tails getting brainwashed:
Treated as the ultimate betrayal, potential to be Sonic's biggest threat if it wasn't undone in the same cutscene.
>Blaze getting brainwashed:
[Remains to be seen]
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IDW is canon but there's still no Sonic game where the world is like IDW. Forces is the closest thing. Frontiers literally just uses the actual real life map of earth.
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WHY IS THERE NO FUCKING CONTINUIITYYY
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>>580389604
Canon is lame and restricted
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>>580389604
it was never a priority
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>>580389604
Lore is for LOSERS like you!
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only shippers and powerscalers care about canon. so they can win online autism battles
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>>580389604
The only "continuity" you're gonna get is the continue abuse of shadow the hedgehog.
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Reminder Fortnite is canon
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>>580389604
this franchise does have canon and continuity, they just play fast and loose with it because Sonic is fast and free.
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Sally raping Shadow
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Having a continuity sucks
Just have what's canon and what's not and make up some fucking stories out of it.
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>>580390326
but the shipping and power scaling and gate keeping...
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What's the difference between canon and continuity?
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>>580390593
Both are autism enablers.
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>>580390520
That for the dedicated fags, which is not more important than expanding
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>>580389604
Sonic Frontiers and Shadow Generations was nothing but referenceslop to older games
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>>580390593
canon simply refers to any events that happen within a work, continuity is weaving those events into a timeline
you can have game canon without there necessarily being a timeline linking them all together
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>>580390593
A canon is 'Sonic is blue'
A continuity is 'why is Sonic blue'
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>>580386184
What the FUCK is sega thinking, give the modern sonic side at least one adventure game. Mario's collection got 64 AND Sunshine for pete's sake.
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>>580391027
New sonic poker coming
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>>580386184
>Sonic forces
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fonic sorces
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>>580386184
>worse version of sonic colors port in another port also should have been sonic x shadow generations instead of frontiers
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Why do manchildren self insert as cartoon fox boy and then complain about him being cute foxboy?
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Tikal status?
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>>580390593
Canon is everything that happens. Continuity is making sure those things align and make sense with each other. Sonic has a canon but not continuity
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>>580391624
Canon but female so nothing worth while
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dapple is so precious i love her
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>>580392123
Silver's wife
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>>580390593
Canon is everything that's a part of the mainline series
Continuity is when the reference and aknowledge past events and pre established lore
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>>580388414
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>>580392123
Just another shitty pet OC to add to the pile
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>>580392123
They made mindrape into a real thing now are you guys happy?
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>>580391624
At rest since the 2nd Perfect Chaos incident, like Chaos she can be reawakened under special circumstances.
She's somewhere between "dead" and "a higher plane of existence," i.e.she can't fuck Knuckles.
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>>580372910
shaded in shado, you guys decide what to put in bg, or if i should make it pure white
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>>580392447
When Blackwood mindrape Silver like my favorite fanarts I will
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>>580392123
>maid
>mind rape
Mmmmmmmmmm coincidence???
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You know you like it
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>>580392447
Yes.
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>>580363791
OH MY HECKING CHAOS! Blackwood, you want to BUTCHER ME and turn me into slices of GOURMET MEAT? You're going to SKIN ME ALIVE and feed me FEET FIRST into a MEAT GRINDER, right after INJECTING ME WITH ADRENALINE so that every ATTOSECOND of my EXISTENCE is nothing but EXCRUCIATING, MIND-NUMBING AGONY? You say this is going to make me taste BETTER? WOWZERS! And you're going to FEED ME to BLAZE in order to FATTEN HER UP and make her OBESE just for your SEXUAL GRATIFICATION? GOOD GAIA! And you're working with PORTAL-SAN??? You're going to use your newfound TIME-TRAVELING ABILITIES to travel BACK INTO THE PAST to CLONE ME and create FACTORY FARMS dedicated to harvesting KEKVER MEAT to FEED BLAZE? And you're going to keep a SINGLE COPY OF ME just so that I can watch you PLOW my now MORBIDLY OBESE GIRLFRIEND whose diet consists entirely of MY FLESH??? GREAT SCOTT!!! AND you're going to modify the TIME-SPACE-CONTINUUM in order to force me to RELIVE EVERY SINGLE MOMENT that my clones have SUFFERED THROUGH whenever you feel like it? I can't wait! YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>Canon is everything that happens. Continuity is making sure those things align and make sense with each other.
>Sonic has a canon but not continuity
This sounds... stupid as hell.
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>>580393530
This led to Shadally femdom AI and the purchase of a $100 Shadally novel by the most hardcore anti Shadally shipper in the fandom.
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>>580393792
It's a long-running franchise with multiple hands crafting reinterpretations.
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>>580393792
Because it is
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Call me crazy, but I have the feeling this Lichen bitch or whatever her name is is the real villain.
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You have 30 minutes to predict a new Sonic game in this Nintendo direct
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>>580394709
Sonic The Hedgehog 5
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>>580394709
>Sonic Sleepers
Brand new exciting adventure where all our favourite characters take a good ol' long nap.
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>>580392304
lol
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>>580394848
But they already made that game. Twice.
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>>580394709
The Murder of Sonic the hedgehog 2
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>>580395035
More like the murder of Barry since he will never appear in any game again ever
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>>580395013
Shit, you're right.
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>>580395219
He will if i’m Autistic enough, wheres your faith? wheres your sense of perseverance?
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>>580363791
Too late
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Just read the new chapter
Did you notice Blaze is already suspicious of Blackwod while Silver doesn't suspect a thing?
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yawn
waking up from lanolin fluff sleep
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Howdy-doodle there Whisperino! Oh, and you brought all of your friends with you! Now what could be the occasion for all of my favorite platonic gal-pals to come together to see me? Huh? You're staging an intervention? About my relationship with Blaze? ... WHAT DID YOU JUST FUCKING SAY? KEEP MY BVLL'S NAME. OUT OF. YOUR FUCKING MOUTH. GGRRRAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHH I'M GONNA FUCKING KILLYOU YOU FUCKING DYKE BITCH, BLAZE IS A STRONG INDEPENDENT FEMALE AND SHE CAN FUCK AS MANY OTHER MEN AS SHE PLEASES!!! DON'T YOU RUN FROM ME YOU PIECE OF SHIT, IT’S NO UUUUUUSSSSEEEEEEEE! I'M GONNA CAVE YOUR SKULL IN YOU STUPID CUNT! DON'T YOU DARE SAY THAT ABOUT MASTER BLACKEDWOOD! I'LL STRANGLE YOU WITH YOUR OWN TAIL YOU MONKEY WHORE! MY DREAM OF AN ABSOLUTION IS YOUR ANNIHILATION YOU FUCKING POLYPHOBIC NAZI BIGOT WHORE I'LL RAPE YOU UNTIL YOU BLEED! HIIIIIYYYAAAAAAAAAAAA!
...
Aw geez, what's Blackwood going to think of me if he sees me looking like this? I better go get myself cleaned so I can be in tip-top shape when he needs me to prep him... well, I guess I know what I gotta Yabba Dabba Do!
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>Sonic announcement on the Direct
Nintendo needs to let the blue rat rot.
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I'm going to swallow you.
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>>580395540
>Silver
>showing intelligence ever
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>>580395630
What did I tell you about posting cringe anon?
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>>580363643
>>580370171
>>580393760
>>580395630
well this is interesting
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Heya Dapple! What's the matter? What? Master Blackwood has been TORTURING and MINDRAPING you? He's been FORCING YOUR EYELIDS OPEN with NEEDLES AND PLIERS like a KEKWORK ORANGE and pouring SALT, SMEGMA and JALAPEÑO SAUCE DIRECTLY ONTO YOUR RETINAS, so that you're CONSTANTLY CRYING at ALL TIMES? And this is all part of some EXPERIMENT he's doing to create a LIVING LUBE DISPENSER, and YOU'RE his TEST SUBJECT? This can't be! I thought that *I* was his guinea pig! Oh? He's testing it on YOU because he eventually wants to do it to ME? PHEW! And here I was thinking that I was going to have my job stolen by some filthy fucking OC! Arrright Master Blackwood, sign me up! Let's YABBA DABBA DOO IT!
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>>580395324
MORE
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>>580396367
>filthy fucking OC!
Silver is lower in status than those two bird faggots
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>>580395630
Fanon
>>580386042
Canon
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back in my day when pornbait dropped people just drew or wrote porn instead of whatever this shit is
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>>580396524
*Blaze
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>38 minutes wasted on pumpkin hill just to find the last shard
>wasting all my lives on mission street, lose the last on right in front of the end stage
It's a clean ragequit.

The camera is ASS, and the character momentum cucks me a lot.
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>>580396367
Dabble and Silver would be good crying buddies
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Silver is the EBT leech of Sonic
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>>580396596
>38 minutes
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>>580395540
He noticed something's up but isn't overplaying his hand.
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>>580396782
meant for >>580396663
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>Dapple
>apple
EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN
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Why do Tailscels hate Tails being cute?
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Twitter is already questioning what Blaze’s purpose is in the franchise
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>>580396782
I searched every single inch of the map excelt that one fucking giant pumpink shaped tower that somehow i missed for an hour. Aldo i started to play with trains thinking it was a puzzle of some sort.
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>>580396663
I always tell anons not to play SA2. The nostalgia of some people doesn't let them see how fucking awful the game is.
If I were you, I would stop there and forget about it. Not even looking at the cutscenes is worth it since it has been retold so many times already
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>>580397027
The purpose Silver had. Being character 2 in a game. Now they're both the writers' issue.
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>"mhm"
>"indeed"
>"thank you"
This is her entire fucking dialogue, what is this shitty character and why is she still around?
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>>580397131
>watching sonic tier list videos
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>>580397084
Well i bought it and i promised myself i would finish it, so i have something thay is not off-topic garbage to talk about.
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>>580397313
Should have bought Crossworlds, faggot
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>>580397084
Or just stop bitching and set up the SA Mod Loader
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>Blaze is Sonic and Blaze’s
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Blaze is Sonic and Silver’s cumdumpster
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>>580397131
to bear Blackwood's children
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>>580397027

It won't amount to anything because they will somehow find a way to scapegoat silver, amy or some other character rather than discussing how her usage can be actually improved.
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>>580397131
She's Silver's autistic girlfriend.
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>>580397384
I hate multiplayer slop... just tell me any good singleplayer game i can play alone like the incel i am.
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>another episode of blaming the character for the writer's skill issue
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Blaze and Silver are Blackwood's cumdumpsters
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>>580397674
Silver is Dapple's cumdumpster.
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>>580397513
That's what we get for not bullying the Sonazefaggots enough, they ruin every discussion about Blaze and just want her to be trapped in Rush discovering the meaning of friendship forever
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>>580397626
How any Sonic forces discussion feels on here
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so...
any sonics in the nintendo direct?
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I'm a retard and i'm not familiar with mods duuuh UUUUUUHHHH
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>>580397881
no Sonic so far
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>>580397881
Stop painting Sonic as a clingy ex, he doesn't need Nintendo. The divorce was years ago.
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>>580396663
>>38 minutes wasted on pumpkin hill just to find the last shard
...how? Just use the hints
>wasting all my lives on mission street, lose the last on right in front of the end stage
How? Stage is not that hard lol.
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>>580397540
Frontiers, Mania and the Murder of Sonic are the only Sonic games I would play that are up to the standard of today and don't feel unpolished.
If you want to play any other game besides those three do it purely because you want to know more about Sonic games. None of them have good gameplay, and if someone tells you otherwise they are lying.
I still think you should play Crossworlds but whatever.
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>>580397775
I said this before but Blaze would work better as amy's rival shadow had this franchise focused on girls more, tying her to sonic or (white) sonic has been fail and redundant, maybe the silver/blaze thing could work better if the JP side used them in actual stories more but even then
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>>580397084
SA1bro...
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>>580397540
I vote Superstars. As long as you ignore the constant bonus stage spam and don't expect much from the bosses, it is a pretty good game. Although I'd personally recommend waiting for a sale. Not worth $70 or whatever they're asking.
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>>580397994
I know it's not hard but sometimes the controls do not respond and i start taking damage, dying before that giant ring is even funnier if you think another bridge collapse on me.
>tails wtf DON'T YOU DIE ON ME!
>*back to the main menu*
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>>580396663
Sorry you ragequit at a treasure-hunting stage, FionAnon. If it's any consolation, SA1fags have always, ALWAYS said the SA2 Knuckles stages are a DOWNGRADE. SA2fags are NUTS to claim otherwise. There are mods to make the linear radar behave more like the original nonlinear system...
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>>580397626
Blaze's issues arent really with her writing though. Her writing is always solid. It's more just her character in general that causes problems.
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>>580398207
I don't know what you mean by Amy's rival. Like straight up another love interest for Sonic? Won't that make her eleven more redundant?
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>>580398485
Elaborate.
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Why is nobody talking about this? Look! They rescued my wife from the vault!
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>>580398595
Look! I can see they parachuted her as a minitoy! She's unvaulted.
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>>580398556
No i mean rival as someone who acts as her shadow or challenges her views, like sonic to shadow, mirror/foil

ofc i am expecting too much from sonic franchise.
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>>580398471
Nah i'm fine i'm having fun, but the first time is always a mess and i got an headache after too many videogames so i need a pause.
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The man who saved IDW Sonic
Master Blackwood
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>>580398840
Blaze doesn't really have any reason to challenge Amy. She'd be a completely different character in order to give her a reason to even care about what Amy does or doesn't do.
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Tails!!!!
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>SA1fags have always, ALWAYS said the SA2 Knuckles stages are a DOWNGRADE. SA2fags are NUTS to claim otherwise
SA1fags vs SA2fags is a thing?
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>>580398963
He made Dapple cry and enslaved a whole town
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>>580398963
Love the cute black bows.
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>>580398983
Yes, i am saying making her conceptually around sonic was a mistake in general. She can't do anything with sonic that knuckles or shadow already do better.
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>>580398471
It's always SA1fags with this cope take....
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>>580399013
TAILS SHOOT THE FUCKING ROBOTS, STOP PLAYING WITH YOUR MECH
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>>580399037
Yes since forever. There has always been debates over which is better or worse
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>>580399195
The last character they made for Amy ended up be a nothingburger, why would you want a repeat of that?
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>>580399091
Based
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>>580398567
The character wasn't throught out in regards to her wider implementation into the series, so whenever they wanna use her, it's ass.
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>>580399037
SA1 has more open level design but SA2 levels are faster paced
That's why I like Final Rush since it has the best of both and I wish all SA1/SA2 levels was designed like it
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>>580399337
What robots?
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>>580399223
The beginning of the end...
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>>580398963
make a mobian look like Sephiroth and give him mind control powers with a maid harem, it was that simple all all
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>>580395862
Silver has resolved all of his game plots with his own intuition.
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>>580399298
I AM GOING TO bake you a nice cookie so that you please reconsider your opinion.
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>>580399476
You could pose this argument against almost every character from Knuckles onward, though.
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>>580399037
>>580399347
Not exactly. It is and has always been SA1fags being insecure over the fact SA2 is seen as better and having chips on their shoulder over it.
SA1fags are a lot more obsessed with SA1 needing to be better than SA2 than the reverse.
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>>580399375
Trip?

Well they don't really focus on girls in general which kinda makes them meh unless you focus on shipping or ''themes and such'' which i know comes from this franchise being shonen or whatever.

how would you fix her anyway? She doesn't really add anything to sonic in a meaningful way and they don't really do anything interesting with her and silver for years. dimension is the only logical conclusion but that doesn't narratively justify itself to keep doing it constantly.
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>>580399586
The ones in my sa2 playthrough.
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>>580399657
You literally just have autism over Tails not being on foot and instead being in a mech.
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>>580399678
Nta but Shadow is actually the best thought one besides sonic himself imo.
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>>580399683
That's not true. SA2 reviewed worse than SA1 when it came out.

SA1 was seen as good at first before the DX port. SA2 was always seen as kinda mid or just ok
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>>580399678
Not really? Rouge doesn't have this issue. Big and Omega don't either. Chaotix are fine. Shadow worked out. People just have autism over him being popular.

Blaze is kind of just conceptually beyond the pale to a point where it's a non-starter.
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>>580399195
You have to be involved with Sonic to relevant in this series.
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You can approach SA1 in hundreds of ways. SA2 is basically a boost game without the boost. It fucking sucks and is only liked for its story.. That story is only liked because of what it copies from other stories
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>>580399683
I tell you what. As someone who just played both games for the first time in the past two months...
They're shit. Like both of them are absolute garbage. I feel bad for kids in the early 2000s who never experienced good games and just had to make do with these pieces of trash.
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>>580399683
SA1's Physics Mod is better than SA2's "Improve Physics Mod"
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>>580399874
>reviews
No one gives a shit about what IGN thinks. The general fanbase likes SA2 more and thinks its better and has for a long time.
>SA1 was seen as good at first before the DX port
SA1fag fanfiction. Most people played SA1 via the DX port. Which is the superior version BTW. DCfagging is mostly jist a response to Arin meming the game and SA1fags damage controlling by needing to throw shit under the bus. Something Sonicfags have a bad habit of doing in general.
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>>580399965
that's why no one gives a shit about any character besides sonic and shadow among casuals.for blaze, her dynamic with sonic is just a watered down combination of knuckles+shadow.
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The Godzilla comic was better
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Sonamyfags are retards who don't care about Sonic. Sonic would never slow down for Amy.
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>>580399824
...I never mentioned that? I actually quite like a fox in mecha-form, thank you very much.
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>>580400028
>I feel bad for kids in the early 2000s who never experienced good games and just had to make do with these pieces of trash.
Like what games?
Please dont say shit like WW or Sunshine.


>>580400127
>needing mods to pretend your game is better than it is to begin with.
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>>580400178
SA2 seems more liked for things like story or chao than the gameplay, most people don't like mech or treasure hunt sections.
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>>580400178
>Which is the superior version BTW.
Nigga there's a DC hack that adds GC cutscene skip, it's over you have nothing anymore.
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>>580399657
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>>580400178
>The general fanbase likes SA2 more and thinks its better and has for a long time.
I dunno if i want to trust a sub-fanbase who screamed and shouted for a one time character like shadow to come back as permanent.
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>astroturfing hate against the best Sonic game ever made
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>>580400178
>The general fanbase likes SA2 more and thinks its better and has for a long time.
There have always been debates within the fanbase over which game is better.

>Most people played SA1 via the DX port. Which is the superior version BTW.
SA1 sold over 2 million on Dreamcast. People noticed that the GameCube port looked visibly worse. People have been shitting on DX for a long time
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>>580400312
This but unironically
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>>580400339
>Like what games?
Like Factorio, Portal, RimWorld, Beyond Citadel, Left 4 Dead. You know, actually good games and not the shit that came out in that horrible time between about 1999 and 2004.
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>>580400353
Other way around. SA1 is liked more for aesthetic vibes novelty and little sentimentalities like the character models proportions, having hubworlds, etc.
Most SA1fags literally say SA1 is better because its easier to ignore most of the game than SA2.

SA1fags when trying to say SA1 is better never talk about ehy SA1 is good gameplaywise, and instead just talk about SA2 and refrain everything about it as negative to prop SA1 up by conparison.
SA2fags actually talk about the gameplay and its merits and ehy they are good and engaging and only talk about it in relation to SA1 when it is topically relevant.
SA2 fags actually like the gameplay beyond just playing Sonic.
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>the best sonic game even made
Sonic 1?
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>>580399720
>Trip?
For Fang, but honestly I forgot about her.

>how would you fix her anyway?... dimension is the only logical conclusion but that doesn't narratively justify itself to keep doing it constantly.
They clearly just wanted to explore a parallel world concept, and they should've given it a proper conclusion. Whether or not they had a plan for that conclusion is up to speculation.

>>580399851
>>580399958
Yes, because those characters were also not introduced in a way that expected them to stick around in anyway outside maybe multiplayer roster filler.

All of them could've disappeared after their debut games and nothing would be lost. They'd just be like Mighty and Ray, footnotes in the franchise's history. Tails and Amy are the only ones with true justification to stick around in Sonic's life.
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>>580400130
>*uses one finger to gently reposition his eyes to the middle*
There, that's better.
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>>580400530
>coping this hard.
Better unlockables, free camera control, an actual map for hubs, and actual reqard for getting emblems, and shit to actually do in the hubs beyond standing still in em and saying its "cozy" via missions.
DC version has no Metal Sonic skin.

>>580400318
>wanting to bang your genderbent self.
Anon...
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I'm just glad I didn't have to see that squid face again.
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SONIC PICO PARK HOLD ON I THINK I SAW MIGHTY AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>580395540
>Blaze is already suspicious of Blackwod while Silver doesn't suspect a thing?
Meanwhile Blaze sat down to eat more while Silver went out to investigate, so accurate.
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>>580400558
Shadow was gonna come back regardless of fan demand cause Iizuka was already planning on giving Shadow his own game during SA2's development. Only Maekawa wanted him to stay dead
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>>580400785
No, i said Shadow was the only other one besides maybe eggman that works more than one-shot.

Tails is honestly boring and Amy is fun but mostly works as a ''themes and such'' thing or a satellite than a lead.
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Release date
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>>580401043
Well lizuka got what he wanted, and the very edgy shad 2005.
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Sonic Frontiers was the last game in the canon Sonic timeline
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>>580400785
>Yes, because those characters were also not introduced in a way that expected them to stick around in anyway outside maybe multiplayer roster filler.
Fuck off, literally Blaze is the only character that was not intended to exist in the middle of the roaster, stop fucking up everyone else to excuse her existent blazefag.
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>>580400558
>subfanbase.
Lol>>580400652
>There have always been debates within the fanbase over which game is better.
Well duh, because there always is with any games especially when its a sequel to another. But almost all of it has been prompted and continues to be prompted by SA1fags because they are insecure over SA2s popularity.
Like half of the SA1 videos and discussions are about SA2 comparisons. The other half is about the rough transition to 3D meme and DC vs DX port apologia because of Egoraptor's let's play. People dont even bring up his 06 one anyone despite it being way more infamous, but SA1fags still obsessed to this day.

SA1 sold over 2 million on Dreamcast.
As a launch title.
>People noticed that the GameCube port looked visibly worse. People have been shitting on DX for a long time
No lol. Back then conversation treated the differences as mostly subjective, with classic sonic bias fans saying they prefer the DC version. It only got treated as strictly inferior in fan discourse to combat Egoraptor.
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>>580400732
>SA2 fags actually like the gameplay beyond just playing Sonic.
No they don’t, they constantly bitch about the mech and treasure hunter stages. I guarantee the current “only Sonic and Shadow matter” mentality that ST clearly employs is based largely off of this, despite the fact that there’s absolutely zero need to box Tails and Knuckles into those respective gameplays
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>>580400997
>hands and feet covered
It could still be him.
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Why does Tails have so many canon love interests? And why are they all women?
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>>580401680
Tails is better when he's gay.
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>>580400723
>Factorio
I like Factorio and play it myself but that game came out in like 2012 and was only officially released like 4 years ago.
Not sure why we are even using PC games as the argument to begin with. Same with Portal btw. Good game but it isn't the most amazing thing ever either.

>You know, actually good games and not the shit that came out in that horrible time between about 1999 and 2004.
...why act like people who played games in that period couldn't have possibly played these other games that came out afterwards? Are you retarded?
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>>580401680
He’s a stud, simple
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>>580401053
Shadow only worked because he's the only character in this franchise who they've cared to develop. If they were to give even an ounce of care into the other characters as they did with Shadow, we wouldn't even be having this talk.

>Tails is honestly boring and Amy is fun but mostly works... a satellite
Personal enjoyment of them aside, it doesn't change that as the sidekick and the love interest they're the only characters with any reason to make regular appearances. Every other character has a narrative that's essentially wrapped up in their first outing with no reason to continue with them.
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>>580395540
Why are Blazefags always lying?
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>>580379018
>Evan said she wants to make longer arcs like the Phantom rider one
And given how that mess ended up, I say "she had her chance, she fucked it, and editorial rightfully doesn't trust her again".
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Just a reminder that Shadow is not a mature adult. If you're reading him as a mature adult you're simply wrong and don't understand him and are probably a self-inserter.

Asked about the Ultimate Lifeform business in Jet Black Hedgehog (JP), his line is
>だから そんなもの 知りません。
知りません is the polite negative (-masen), not the plain 知らない. He is being formal and
deferential to the researchers. The English "I don't know anything about that" reads flat
or even sullen. The Japanese is a well-mannered child answering adults he does not like.
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>>580401642
>No they don’t, they constantly bitch about the mech and treasure hunter stages
That's SA1fags. Actual SA2fags will say they prefer the Sonic and Shadow stages but still enjoy the Hunting and Mech stages well enough, with some saying Mad Space can fuck itself or whatever.

If anything, im noting more dedicated SA2fags actually rate the mech stages as the weaker of he e with the Sonic and Knuckles stages as the better two, whereas casuals will rate the hunting stages lowest.

>>580401642
>despite the fact that there’s absolutely zero need to box Tails and Knuckles into those respective gameplays
TailsLawyer pokes his head out finally.
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>>580402060
Looking at YouTube views and people's comments, I am pretty sure the phantom rider arc sold better than anything that came after ward. The editorial sucks and is run by morons
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>>580401943
I think the point is that every character narrative surrounds Sonic in some way or another which causes them to be around more
Blaze never does, she tries to be separate, so her continuing to exist is against her narrative.
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>>580401551
I don't care about random YouTubers.

Discourse over wether SA1 or SA2 was the better game has always existed and has never been a consensus within the fanbase. And again SA1 performed better critically at first
>As a launch title.
Yes?
>No lol. Back then conversation treated the differences as mostly subjective, with classic sonic bias fans saying they prefer the DC version.
No DX was seen as a crap port from the start
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>>580400961
>Better unlockables,
I will grant you this...in 2003, and just the GameCube edition. The Game Gear novelty wore off pretty quickly after it was put in the suvsequent collections, unlock-free.
>free camera control,
No one used that buggy thing.
>an actual map for hubs,
Ruined the forest maze.
>shit to actually do in the hubs beyond standing still in em and saying its "cozy" via missions.
Glitching into places like Emerald Coast and Casinopolis was way more fun that "burgerking needs a friend."
>DC version has no Metal Sonic skin.
Anon it not only looks NOTHING like the Metal Sonic ALREADY IN THE GAME but it's so rushed the animations are bugged and it's literally just a Sonic skin that still drowns, this is a slap in the face not a "reward."
btw Chao Adventure >>> Tiny Garden don't@me
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>>580402220
Wtf is TailsLawyer? Are you having a schizo moment?
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>No new mario announced
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>>580401943
>Shadow only worked because he's the only character in this franchise who they've cared to develop.
People who day this are coping. Just look at Metal and Silver. Look at how people talk about Blaze vs The Deadly Six.
Fans dont like characters gor their good writing. Fans latch onto a character for more shallow or simple reasons and then determine the character either is or isn't "deserving" of good writing to shill them.

Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar. Characters with good writing that is with characters people don't care about gets dismissed or actively complained about.

People in this fandom treat shit like its Plato's republic
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>>580402045

Posting cutesy silvaze art is a sign they aren't a blazefag really, probably uwuverfag
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But the first half of 00s gaming is much better than the latter half.
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>>580402128
I am a proud self inserter. What's your problem bro?
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>>580401680
Tailsage is so cute bros...
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Tails the cuck.
Scourge the bvll.
Fiona the stacy.
https://mega.nz/folder/IRw0RB7L#AHpjwd6KwrZC2Yfqy4cqgg/folder/ABpzTQBB
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>>580402631
Blazefags are uwuverfags, they want him dead remember?
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>>580402672
faggot
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>>580402716
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>>580401943
>>580402343

I mean i think the whole franchise depending on the mc to this extent is a lame in itself, it's why the only other character casuals care about is ''sonic but edgier'' and now ''sonic but futuristic and naive'' joins the trend. the system needs to change.
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>>580402635
Mid-Late 2000s is the standard I hold for what gaming should be
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>>580402716
https://x.com/foxiumart/status/2085166821087309891?s=46
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I thought the DC comic was coming out today as well.
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Tailshaters can't stop thinking about cuckoldry
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>>580402790
Blazefags hate uwuver because it promotes silvaze, and the ones who don't hate silvaze would probably like silver being more masculine since the reason they shill sonaze is to see her being dominated.
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>>580402905
Not for Sonic
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>>580402716
>>580402843
TEAM Cuckails
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>>580402417
>I don't care about random YouTubers
You dont represent all SA1fags. The larger culture around the game today stems from that.
>>580402417
>Discourse over wether SA1 or SA2 was the better game has always existed and has never been a consensus within the fanbase.
This is just not true. Maybe on Retro or something but for the longest time, SA2 being seen as just an improvement over SA1 was the consensus with some people saying they still prefer SAq but recognize the improvements of the sequel.
The divisiveness emblematic of the games in wider fandom today is relatively recent by comparison and came about in the mid 2010s.

I know because I was actually there.
>>580402417
>No DX was seen as a crap port from the start
By boomers who take reviews as gospel and needed a rationalization maybe. The average person just played DX, thought it was fine and then learned about the DC original and didnt care about the differences much until it was useful to be indignant and throw it under the bus to protect the game from scrutiny.
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I love him!!! <3
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>>580403151
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>>580403336
stacyiona telling the facts to tailspedos
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This is sad
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>>580396853
>>580401035
>>580402045
Silver said he just wanted to check on Dapple. He doesn't think anything is weird.
Blaze said
>They sure are...loyal
Loyal in bold letters.
I don't know why it's so hard to understand Silver is naive and he is always going to be naive, he will never think someone is evil beforehand until proven otherwise .
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>>580403090
Uwuver doesn't promote any ship, everyone would feel bad for the girl and say it's very forced, so it's normal for blazefags to be uwuverfags still.
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>>580403006
>pic
This would make more technical sense for a Tails spindash, but then we wouldn’t get to see the tails sticking out of the ball :(
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>>580403336
I-it twitched...
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as much as i hate idw, silver not being suspicious of someone suspicious is literally ic. he believed fucking mephiles the demon looking faggot
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The cuckolding general.
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>>580402343
>that every character narrative surrounds Sonic in some way or another
Not at all. Knuckles and the ME have nothing to do with Sonic. Shadow, the Robotniks, and GUN have nothing to do with Sonic. Cream and Vanilla had nothing to do with Sonic. Sonic just happens to get involved with the issues these characters are in. After they're resolved, he largely has no reason to ever see them again.

It's the same with Blaze. They are from two different worlds, but for some reason linked. A proper conclusion would've been for them to sever that link, ensuring their worlds are never in danger of colliding again but also that they must have a final goodbye.

>>580402609
I meant that every appearance Shadow had after his debut was building on him, and that's a level of care no other character has really seen. New lore and powers, they've constantly added to him.

It's a stark difference to how the others are handled, and even Shadow isn't immune to the pitfalls.
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>>580403214
He’s the best :D
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>>580403442
He gone to check on Dapple because he though it was weird
Blaze saying random shit doesn't mean anything really
plus Silver is said to be naive by blaze herself it's not his actual character, it's like saying Knuckles is just a knuckle head, Silver is preceptive to details, he's only socially naive.
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>>580403460

Silvazefags started uwuver tho, i know males find it cringe but 13 year old girls at the time genuinely found it cute as a dynamic. it came from people flanderizing his interactions with amy and blaze in 06.
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>>580402419
>No one used that buggy thing
Speak for yourself.
>>580402419
>Ruined the forest maze.
No that shit isn't a maze. Mazes have the conceit of being a navigation challenge, not just getting lost for no reason.

>>580402419
>Glitching into places like Emerald Coast
You have to actively do that on purpose. Every other glitch in the game is in the DC version. DC even has its own issues the DX version doesn't.
>Casinopolis
Is shit in every version.

>literally just a Sonic skin
Literally better than nothing. Imagine collecting all the emblems only to get jack shit. People still dunk on Sunshine for that shit to this day with its Blue Coins and the postcard.

>Chao Adventure >>> Tiny Garden
Pros and cons.
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>>580403541
He'll probably go tell Blaze next issue. Or maybe he'll just peek at her taking a shower like usual.
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>>580403468
I just downloaded it because it looked cute. I prefer his iconic canon ball

>>580403649
Yeah a lot of characters get this treatment here
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>>580402560
Don't laugh. We are supposed to have the moral high ground remember?
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>>580403541
Silver being a gullible retard is the most ic thing he can be
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>>580403819
>moral high ground
>/sthg/
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Why is this the only cuck comic of mobius unleashed?
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You people need to realize that Silver and Blaze are 14. Shadow and Sonic are both 15. They are all literally teenagers, some of them are severely socially maladjusted due to isolation. They are not mature adults, and they all show childish traits to a degree. Emotional outbursts, naivety, or brattiness you generally wouldn't see in an experienced adults. If they are acting a bit impulsive or inexperienced it's because they literally are stupid teenagers with superpowers
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Blowing raspberries on Tails' tummy <3
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>mobis unleashed
Brimstone.
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>>580403949
It's Nintendo, we can blame them for anything
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>>580403541
>nufag
Mephiles is a manipulator demigod, EVERYONE fell for his plan in 06
Silver is very preceptive, specially in rivals he could tell that eggman is a fake from one glance
>Silver: Eggman Nega!
>Espio: Eggman... Nega?
>Eggman Nega: Ah, Silver, very perceptive! Nothing gets by you, I see. Hee hee hee hee hee...
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>>580404272
Why did you do it?
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when is Silver doing this to Blaze
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>>580403674
>I meant that every appearance Shadow had after his debut was building on him,
Yes but that's only relevant because people ALREADY LIKED HIM THAT MUCH to begin with.
People to this day are still divided on whether Shadow05 was good for his character actually (though more people are seeing its merits). Peoplr treat Heroes as just a footnote and people warmed up to his 06 depiction more overtime. But that's mostly it when you really boil it down. Shadow doesnt have THAT much writing to him to explain why he is popular. Most people to this day still see SA2 as his best outing.
First impressions and shallow shit matters way more to people than they wanna admit. People dont care about writing for the writing. They care about writing because of who the writing is attached to.

This is why you have people complaining about Sonic needing to "go through arcs, become vulnerable, cry and be sad" these people dont care about his writing.
They just wanna attach writing they like onto him.

This is his you can have people claim to like Amy while saying they hate everything about her prior to Frontiers.

People who care about the writing exist but they are not the majority. People will bring up the writing of a character to legitimize why their character deserves respect or to be seen as good.
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>>580404269
>human
Ew
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Everyone is dissecting on what Silver should do to be in character
but when it comes to blaze they only want her to be the center of attention and next to Sonic, curious....
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>>580404374
That's because Silver already knew Nega
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>>580404213
There isn't a general idea of a teen, what matters is if the characters are internally consistnet more than their age.
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>>580404387
I only say nigger online.
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>>580404716
I want them both to go away forever :)
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>>580404736
This is Mondo hardcore
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>>580403819
I usually not cocky with other franchises except for Mario. i like to beef with Mario
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>>580404474
I think they'll avoid shipbait in general since Silvaze is controversial around blazefags and social justice types.
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>>580404835
Obsessed with cucking boys
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>>580404663
Gijinkas are cool!
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>>580404716
Literally all of r/BlazeTheCat is just ship discourse.
Silverfags instead are focused on trying to celebrate rhe character, understand the character and dispell unfair assessment about him and highlight his merits. Silverbros even defend Amy in 06 and say people treat her unfairly in general.
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>>580404736
>3 stage evolution and the mega evolution
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>>580405078

Silver and amy have a similar haterbase in that most of their hate is ship drama (well, didnt use to be that way for silver, but in 2026 it actually is.)
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>>580404716
I just feel like the Rush story is incomplete and shoddy, and it would've been nice to get some kind of conclusion to it. It's not even hard to outline, and it frustrates me that it seems like they were more in love with a concept itself than writing a quality arc with it.
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>>580404732
No nigga, i'm talking about someone wearing a genuine disguise wouldn't even be enough to sway him, he does ignore suspiciousness but not because he's a retard but because he's both serious to validate the bigger picture first and is hopeful to be wrong about the worst outcome.
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We love Tails here
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>>580404716
Blaze being a another dimension parallel to Sonic is all she has going her
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>>580405217
Silver has only ever been relevant outside of shipping shit thru SSS, which itself is a dead meme trio
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>>580404474
After Blackwood wipes her memory clean and she has no idea how retarded he is.
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>>580405283
I'm not saying he is retarded, but being naive is part of who he is
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>>580405282
Anon...
the reason why it's forgettable is because it's way too detailed and a finished story with a conclusion lid, Blaze learns to be better at making friends in her world, then she did. there's nothing bright to remember from this story or to continue from apart from making more of the same sonic characters in the sol dimension and that's it.
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>>580405454
He has cool a design, and a setting that's actually interesting through being the future of sonic's world, a personality type that can work without making him the center of the universe etc. He has more people that like him outside of ships.

Meanwhile all blaze discussion is about either shipping or anti shipping, i know that's less fault of the writers and more a fault of her being female being put to male characters in a shonen franchise but still.
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>>580405078
I'd stare endlessly at Amy's wonderful breasts too.
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>>580405590
Yes but you have to remember two things:
Blaze is the one calling him that, the tsundere unsocial bureaucrat
and that Silver was surviving in an apocalypse on his own, he's naive to our more peaceful and social times not an actual naive guy, because then he wouldn't even survive for a second.
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>>580405201
Holy Stars, it's NOT a Rayman!!
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>>580406013

I think the naive here meant moreso in an idealistic sense, as in he's kind of a wuss that stops his mission because Random girl he has no bond with told him it's a bad thing to do. maybe ''too kind'' would be the better translation.
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>>580405716
>the reason why it's forgettable is because it's way too detailed and a finished story with a conclusion lid
So are most stories in this franchise. Yes, I know the story of Rush 1 but it just sets the groundwork and an inquisitive player would naturally have more questions about the mechanics of their dimensional bond.

It would've been so easy to write, and so easily fit within a three game handheld arc.
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>>580406013
>because then he wouldn't even survive for a second.
Assuming Blaze wasn't protecting him in the future from evildoers
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>>580405775
>cool design
lol. The original tryhard design before Infinite
>setting that's actually interesting through being the future of sonic's world
You can’t say this then disregard Blaze’s dimension. Either they’re both cool or both boring (I lean boring)
>personality type that can work without making him the center of the universe
“I must save the entire future and protect the helpless” feels kinda center of the universe-y to me, at least as much as that can be realized.

Blaze discussion revolves around shipping because she’s a girl, quite simply. She’s not the only girl to be a victim of this either
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>>580405217
Amy's hatebase is different because she is a cutesy pink temperamental girl character in a boy's action series released in the ealry 2000s.
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We already decided S3&K is the best game
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Emi cute
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>>580406426

The future is more interesting because he has actual stakes to be involved in the story and is connected to sonic's world, people will be more curious about sonic's world future than another dimension people don't have a narrative reason to care about.

heck even blazefags were pushing for the dimensions to be merged so she could be used more, only silvazefags who cared it for ''themes and such'' even actually paid attention to it.
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>>580406376
Blaze was with him between the time of rush of 06, so less than a few months, he's still all on his own since childhood and he manged to beat iblis hundreds of times since 7.
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>>580406659
Even that kind of applies to silver because the other reason besides shipping people though he was a ''whiny faggot'' instead of being cool and masc. even if the whininess was mostly overplayed by fanbase than the actual game.
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I fed a language model massive amounts of Sonic content, scripts, dialogue, interviews, and analysis. It's also weighted to prioritize canon info. So you can speak to the character and it's entirely IC. it's really funny trying to force fandom headcanons on the characters in my chars with them because it just doesn't work
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>>580407003
Nobody cares
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Where's the godzilla issue?
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>>580406426
>tryhard design
MF it's a futuristic psychic, Blaze doesn't even look royal or anything to do with fire, she just have Sonics shoes with female big the cat design, she's a tryhard OC who's made a by 14 girl to self insert.
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>>580406786
>less than a few months
Are you assuming you know how the flow of time works in Sonic?
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We cuck Tails here.
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A lot of people billed Silver as a faggot in the 2000s
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>>580405860
...just take the compliment
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>>580405282
You want to know something Anon notived many threads ago?
There is absolutely zero hint that Blaze is a princess until she blurts it out unprompted to herself during one of her last lines in the true ending.
No really, you won't find it in profiles, either. I wonder if this confused any players who thought "guardian" was mistranslated. Reeks of a bigger story they wanted to tell.
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>>580406013
Silver's naiveness is presented as kind of an extension of his hopeful hero idealism shtick. More pragmatic characters will see it as him being "immature" because we associate being an adult with being more cynical and "realistic".
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>>580406774
The future schtick is only interesting if you are forced to buy Silver as a savior complex. It literally can’t happen without setting up the scenario such that:

Sonic and co = L
Sonic and co + Silver = W

Sorry but he’s NOT that guy and I will never buy him as such. That only ever works in a “I’ve come to warn you so you’re better prepared” kinda way
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>>580406774
>heck even blazefags were pushing for the dimensions to be merged so she could be used more
That's completely undermines the tension of their relationship. The narrative framework should've been:
>Rush 1 establishes the meeting and the reality of Sonic and Blaze's bond
>Rush 2 now pivots to Blaze's world and we learn that there's more to that pull than meets the eye
>Rush 3 concludes the arc with both heroes fighting the cause of the connection, ultimately saving both of their worlds forever but they also sever any chance of seeing each other again
It's all right there. Could this be reversed afterward because of Sonic Team shenanigans? Sure, but at least the core arc would had appropriate weight for the stakes of the tale and the relationship of the leads.

>>580407385
>spoiler
I think that makes perfect sense. Revealing her status to otherworld strangers would be unnecessary, introducing herself as the guardian of the Sol Emeralds (the immediate concern) is more relevant.
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>>580407385
No, its there because its meant to be a reveal. Blaze is closed off and keeps shit yo herself and by the end of the game after her arc, we get to hear her open up about herself before she leaves, presumably never to be seen again. Rush 1 is very much written like a 1 off story, and Blaze being a princess is supposed to be a "left to the imagination" thing.
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>>580407440
Yeah, sonic gets called naive too by mestli in BoC which i am surprised people haven't pointed out here.

Silver's thing is he's like sonic or amy but forced to act as shadow or blaze-like, in the end he doesn't give in because evryone needs to be ''true'' to be themselves.
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>>580407141
lol no, the weedhair and faggy boots are more try hard and stupid looking than anything blaze has
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>>580406426
>lol. The original tryhard design before Infinite
You fags fluctuate between lame and tryhard a lot, at least he doesn't look like a pajeet
>You can’t say this then disregard Blaze’s dimension. Either they’re both cool or both boring (I lean boring)
Blaze dimension is an entire other place that is completely unrelated and very hard to cross, Silvers future is not his, it's Sonics future, that's what makes him more interesting because you don't have to only focus on him-
>“I must save the entire future and protect the helpless” feels kinda center of the universe-y to me, at least as much as that can be realized.
Still doesn't center him, Silver helping the future centers with every single character that lives here, helping THEIR future, to put smiles on THEIR faces and it's EVERYONES duty to help do so, Blaze only talks about helping HER people in HER dimension with HER duty
>Blaze discussion revolves around shipping because she’s a girl
Because she's a nothingburger character, other girls have other discussions all the time.
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>>580406683
Always.
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>>580407616
You keep pushing this narrative but it's really overstating things to make it more of an issue than it is.
In SA2, if Amy doesn't talk to Shadow = L
Amy talks to him = W
Im sorry but Amy is "not that gal"

....see how dumb this is?
Silver's contribution mastering isn't the same thing as him being the almighty savior.
No one says this about Trunks in the Cell Saga.
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>>580407823
To be fair the 06 docs has tons of shit not in the rush 1 game and later nishiyama revealed in the interview they were things they wanted to use but couldn't fit in the game.
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>>580407862
I think you're tryharding too much on things nobody sees but you, could've said Blaze is a pajeet with a native haircut that wears eggman clothes and trying so hard to show off her pussy because he tits are flatter than a pancake.
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>>580407862
>weed hair and faggy boots
>it's try hard lol lol
Are you retarded?
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>>580407616
>Sonic and co + Silver = W
Correct. It seems my superiority has caused some controversy
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>>580407908
>>580408229
You fags really overestimate how much I care about Blaze: I don’t at all. Slandering her to make me like Silver will not work, I want them both vaulted
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>>580408364
It’s doing too much to try and look cool, and ends up looking dumb. How is that hard to understand?
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>>580406426
>You can’t say this then disregard Blaze’s dimension. Either they’re both cool or both boring
I like Robot Pirate Island Adventures but The Future is just narratively more interesting because it is causally connected to the Present.
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>>580408496
They're not going to vault either of them.
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>>580407616
This is still by far the most retarded take ever made by the Blazetards out there
Could've sworn they felt ashamed of themselves but they still did not...
The fact that somebody needs help and the fact some body time traveled to help, doesn't equate to a power scale narrative where the helper is better than everyone else.
By this logic everyone who was with Sonic is fucking lame because how share there interfere with him saving the world?
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>All of his staff is brainwashed
>Overly try hard noble dialogue
>Even has a special fancy font, just for him
Calling it now, Blackwood is a fake fraud bum.
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>>580408618
I don't think it's really about looking cool, but more about his predecessors. Silver's design sorta feels like they were "trying hard" to really differentiate his silhouette from Sonic or Shadow. I like Silver but his forehead is weird no matter how you slice it.
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>>580408179
Trunks worked because of the condition I already explained in the post you replied to. Characters helping each other is fine, Silver was not because he was there to KILL Sonic for the majority of it, until the end when they needed powerscaling and aurafagging because “muh supersaiyanhogs”. It’s shallow and lame and wholly unnecessary
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>>580408848
Appearently it's supposed to be a leaf that represents world peace but i kinda like it with this powers.
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>>580407616
>The future schtick is only interesting if you are forced to buy Silver as a savior complex. It literally can’t happen without setting up the scenario such that:
>Sonic and co = L
>Sonic and co + Silver = W
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>Sorry but he’s NOT that guy and I will never buy him as such. That only ever works in a “I’ve come to warn you so you’re better prepared” kinda way
Without Silver knocking the phantom ruby prototype from infinite and getting the avatar to have it, Sonic team would had lost
Without Silver, Solaris couldn't be defeated.
ETC.
So that scenario is correct.
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>>580406426
>Blaze discussion revolves around shipping because she’s a girl, quite simply. She’s not the only girl to be a victim of this either
Amy discourse is mostly about her character even though she's literally a love interest character.
Shipping affects it, dgmr, but its rarely the actual center of the discourse around her character.

I'm an Amyfag and while I think Amy's love fof Sonic is important and shouldnt very downplayed, I dont center my conversations around Amy's characterization around whether or not she is paired with Sonic vs Shadow or something. This is literally all Blazefags do because her character is secondary to whether or not she is positionallly seen as Sonic's counterpart and ideal partner for ship reasons and such.
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>>580408618
Because i think you're genuinely a bit retarded or at least baiting, it's just too absurd that you'd rather believe his design is tryharding edgyness than wants to be focusing on symbolisms
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>>580409012
CHADVER
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>>580409012
Yes and I’m saying that’s fucking stupid. You’re telling NO ONE else could knock out the phantom ruby? Or that 2 superhogs couldn’t do it but 3 could? That’s horseshit
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Needs more cucking
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>>580409102

The shipshit blaze has is less because of actual romance or their dynamic but because her being associated with sonic through having a crush on him(whether said thing is canon or not is irrevelant rn) and also being a parallel to him. with silver she usually takes less focus than him and even if she becomes main silver is just not relevant to the seires lore than the literal MC. the shipping is a downstream of the larger main character syndrome and waifufag culture she has rather than these ppl actually caring about whatever romance dynamic her and sonic have.
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>>580409012
Cream without telling Sonic about her mother could've lend eggman enough time to finish his utopia
Cream is a savior and the true hero that Sonic and his friends would never do anything without her caring for them!
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>>580406936
Sure but the former is way more of a hit to your character in that time frame. Especially if you are a love interest since romance and love was still seen as cringe.
People at least complain about Silver with the pretense of him being better if he was less whiny sounding.

Amy on the other hand, peoplr were primed by american cartoons to equate Amy with characters like Panini and just tune her out and read her uncharitably in any instance.
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>>580409173
lol please tell me how potleaf hair and gay club boots are about muh symbolisms and not trying and failing to make him look cool
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>>580409246
I think you're very buckbroken about Silver being genuinely more useful than shitaze, EVERYONE helps the story in their own important ways, you're stuck on Silver doing so and nobody else.
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>>580407141
>Blaze doesn't even look royal
Eh, Blaze looks like an anime noble.
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>Metroid gets another 10/10 side scroller
>Sonic going to try to copy Tears of the Kingdom with its janky GMod-systems and end up with some half-assed Nuts & Bolts-tier slop
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How many of you here are diagnosed autists?
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>>580408769
1st: not a Blazetard. 2nd:
>The fact that somebody needs help and the fact some body time traveled to help, doesn't equate to a power scale narrative where the helper is better than everyone else
It does when said helper ONLY helps from a power scaling perspective and nothing else. As I already said, if it was a Trunks type scenario where he only came to warn so the main cast could better prepare themselves, then fine. But that’s not what happened. Silver only exists to cement hedgehogs as saiyans and make everyone else seem inadequate in the process
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>>580409729
He's a psychic he has pointy hair
his "gay club boots" are less "gay club" than Jet and Shadow who wear heels, and i genuinely think they're normal boots that you're stuck in a herd mentality of barking the same sentence from someone else believing it's true.
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>>580409647

The point is that both of them got hated on either because of ship drama or because they weren't seen cool and masc enough.

and desu i like amy but her hatebase is also due to sonic team not communicating shit properly.

like, cream is also cute and girly and while she's way more irrevelant to gain an equal amount of hatebase, i didn't see people hating on her much on the pretext of acting cutesy or being girly.
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>>580410049
She looks like a jester more than a noble
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>>580408181
That reads more as him getting carried away overwriting his pet character OC frankly.
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>>580409729
The hair he has is based on momiji leaf which symbolizes world peace. the boots are, as said, just normal boots you repeat others opinion on to fit in.
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>>580409852
>>580410089
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>>580410089
>Silver talks to Tails and Amy about time shticks
>"i think he's forcing himself as a superior being than all of them because....he does stuff"
kys, you have inferiority problems, hope you realize it's going to get even worse later.
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>>580410225
What the hell? They must have been discussing Blackwood's powers for a while
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>>580410225
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>>580410287
They could be fit in a larger story, but not really a short ds handheld.
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>>580409246
uh oh silversperg melty
Silver being a future clutch chad is Sonic canon
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>>580410098
>He's a psychic he has pointy hair
??? No correlation
>heels
Brother…
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>>580408769
Yeah I agree, its a pretty dumb complaint.
Silver warning about shit from the future just makes the problem he is helping solve "time" flavored.
It doesn't even always need to be him coming to the past. He can take the gang to help him in the future as well.
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>>580410360
Leave it faggot the subject got dissociated with being a subject and more of Blazefags being retarded as per usual.
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Maybe if Silver had ever once solved his own problems. He just like "Oh no, the future sucks! :( Better go get Sonic to do something about it. :("
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>>580408923
>Trunks worked because of the condition I already explained in the post you replied to. Characters helping each other is fine, Silver was not because he was there to KILL Sonic for the majority of it, until the end when they needed powerscaling and aurafagging because “muh supersaiyanhogs”. It’s shallow and lame and wholly unnecessary
Literally none of this is inherent to his concept. Or something Blaze isn't equally guilty of.
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>>580410605
>i think he's tryharding like infinite to be cool
>how so
>he's stupid
>but you said to be cool
>no he has leaf hair and wears heels
>everyone else does
>brother no correlation lol brother
Blazefags, do remember your "Sonic equivalent" is the ugliest and weakest character in the franchise, and nobody would sleep with her and now she's going to be raped by a faggot and Chadver has to save her, right after impregnating every maid in the castle.
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This anti-silver guy's kinda stupid.
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>>580410810
>concept
Holy shit you people need to let go of your themes and concepts and start looking at what we actually get. That’s what fucking matters, and what we got is shit. It’s just like the Forces Tails “oh well what they were going for was okay but it came out shitty but I swear it’s not actually shitty” have some fucking standards for your games my god
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What do you expect from Blazetards....
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>>580409246
Dude, it's timetravel. It's doesn't matter if someone else "could" or not. What matters is that it didn't happen, and when Silver went back, he happen to and that small change created the conditions got victory.

I dont know why you are treating everything as a competiton where it has to be seen as a mark of skill versus just people's contributions mattering.

Sonic COULD have stopped to Egg Walker and saved Station Square but he wasn't around and Tails was.
Does that make Tails' inclusion stupid?
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>>580411392
You're entire fucking point is a concept made by insecurity.
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>>580411219

>now she's going to be raped by a faggot and Chadver has to save her, right after impregnating every maid in the castle.

silverrapefag, i don't like blazetards either but trying to sell silver as a generic machismo chad is actually cringe
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>>580409462
I'd say that's typical of shipfag culture in general though. Most of the Blazefags who are autistic about Sonaze stuff do so specifically for the main character syndrome stuff to begin with. Everything else is just a story created to validate it.
The minority of Blaze fans that actually like her character don't treat her as needing to be paired with Sonic vs Silver to be a good character or work properly.
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>>580411353
People still have a had huge chip on their shoulder about Silver to this day and refuse to let go as if Sonic 06 came out yesterday
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>>580411219
I DONT CARE ABOUT BLAZE. HOW
MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I NEED TO SAY IT

Holy shit you people have actual demons that haunt you and you need to deal with them already
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>>580411463

Sonic fanbase in general is insecure about who's the most badass, most aura, whos the main etc. more than actual story thematics or character dynamics
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>>580411570
Cuuuuuuuuuuuute!
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>>580411969
It’s because Silverfags genuinely act like 06 was some underappreciated masterpiece and that Silver should be viewed equally to Sonic and Shadow in terms of coolness/popularity/relevance
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>>580411923

Yeah that's exactly what i said about sonazefags lol. i agree that a lot of shipfag culture is opportunities or waifufagging but id argue ships that have a wider audience than waifufagging has more people actually invested in the thematics of the romance narrative or character dynamics.
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>>580410089
>ONLY helps from a power scaling perspective
The hell are you talking about. Silver being a quest giver doesnt matter for powerfagging.
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>>580412249
They don't though, they just ask for him to be used more.
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sonic games would be improved if they shelved sonic for a time and just made entirely different, non-speed based 3d platformers, with the other characters.
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>>580410147
>and desu i like amy but her hatebase is also due to sonic team not communicating shit properly.
Nah, I don't think it'd matter. Amy would be seen more charitably if she got the Classic character pass like Knuckles and Tails do.
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>>580412609
She does get that pass tho. Whenever Tails and Knuckles are used, she usually is too. It really comes down to her being a girl in a boys franchise
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>>580412249
Well funny enough we don't, now what?
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>>580412582
This. Also, they can throw in some full-frontal nudity too.
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>>580410147
>like, cream is also cute and girly and while she's way more irrevelant to gain an equal amount of hatebase, i didn't see people hating on her much on the pretext of acting cutesy or being girly.
They did actually. People complained about her existing and being useless and said her high-pitched voice was annoying and that she didnt add anything.
The most comon thing fans did with her was make her a psychotic violent killer with guns and make her swear and be emo.

Its more that this stuff went under the bridge easier because Cream just wasnt as relevant or recurring as Amy.
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>>580412729
Eh, i adressed that, cream, being also a cutesy and girly character, is less controversial thhan amy. I think it's mostly people misunderstood how sonic felt about her and uncharitably viewed it as pointless or annoying. especially since people treat sonic more like a grounded self insert.
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>>580410267
If she had the hat maybe, but anyone does with the hat really.


>>580410497
But Nishiyama famously said he just writes for the gameplay. So the only way to square that statement is he got carried away writing his pet character.
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>>580412906
People just don’t care about Cream because she’s rarely used anymore. Amy is still used fairly frequently
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>>580412807
I didn't really see it outside of here where people call her pedobait, but ill trust you
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>>580412249
You're mixing them with blazefags which is very disrespectful, none of them said he should be with Shadow and sonic nor said 06 is a masterpiece, that's Blazefags with their "Sonic of her dimension" and "rush is the best game", meanwhile Silverfags want some professional writing with his character that stays true to his story and want him to be used in games and movies, you know like any other characterfag
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>>580413062
I mean even in 00s i don't really remember her being as controversial as amy besides some people not liking her voice. with amy they did a poor job communicating her dynamic with sonic or others even is most of the arguments are dumb
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>>580412462
>>580412751
Yeah, like I buy that. I see how you always try to latch him onto Sonic and Shadow for “aura” purposes and say “SSS is cinema!” to try and get some desperate validation
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>>580411392
>Holy shit you people need to let go of your themes and concepts and start looking at what we actually get.
Putting the anti intellectualism aside, I AM looking at what we get. 06 isn't the only story. And in the other ones like Forces, he is just a meme messenger who contributes and has minimal spotlight attributed to him over anyone else.

You're just trying to paint people using their actual brain as bad to try and limit the convo to force a garbage conclusion that aligns woth you narrrative even though that's now how writing works.

If we abided by your logic, Sonic wouldnt have a plane on Sonic 2 and every game would have to take place on South Island.
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>>580413269
Silver and Sage AU had none of that
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>>580412249
I'm not even a Silverfag and I think you're a fucking retard with a chip on your shoulder.
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>>580370313
The Blazefan got so upset he's repeating his fanfiction from a year ago kek
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>>580413252
>tails x eggman
CUTE
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>>580413252
Rouge? Because she got a sticker?
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>>580412031
Yes and its annoying. I legit thi k the main reason people insist SA1 was Amy's best characterization is because of this same logic. Its the one game where she is the main character of her own story.
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Tails and eggman streaming bullshit on youtube.
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>>580413992
I don't think it's her best characterization at all, but I think it establishes her character very well -going forward-, and it's certainly an important part of her story. Unfortunately, like you said, she hasn't really had her own chance to shine since, so it's still one of the go-to "This is good Amy" stories.
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i don't have a pic of tails and eggman kissing on my work computer though, so have this cute picture of sitcks and blaze
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>>580412031
>>580413992
This is because of Sonic Team’s complete inability to write anyone well if they’re not in a main/playable role
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>>580412315
>id argue ships that have a wider audience than waifufagging has more people actually invested in the thematics of the romance narrative or character dynamics.
Nah, most people just care about if it fits into pairing cliches or the percieved status of the character combined with husbando/waifufagging.
Everything else is people making up stories to validate it. Often literally.
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>>580413992
Tbh i think it's the best too outside of maybe 06
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>they shilled sonegg to counter tails spamming
>turns out tailsegg was the real deal all along
I know the greek-roman religions were the true ones because this universe makes fun of everyone and everything constantly.
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>>580412729
I'm talking about fandom treatment of fhe character, not the company.
When Tails or Knuckles get written in ways people dont like, its the writer's fault.
When Amy is, its Amy's fault as a character.
A lot of people saw Amy as a "nuCharacter' like Shadow. Then Heroes came out and further cemented her as a hanger on rather than the lead girl of the group.
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>>580414470

Most of it yes but i see more people talking about thematics or character dynamics when it comes to Sonamy or the more ''vanilla/canon adjacent'' ones, even if it's not most of the content. Sonaze really is only appeals to waifufags
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>>580413252
>>580414730
>>580413709
This is just rivalries
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>>580412906
You're doing another thing that annoys me which is people boiling it down to just whether or not Sonic likes Amy or not. This is something people do that annoys me because it masks the fact the people that claim she is just her love for Sonic are the ones reducing her to just getting to bang Sonic or not.

It wouldn't really matter if the audience themsleves wanted to bang her.
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>>580414860
LET ME SHITPOSTING IN PEACE
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>>580414906
It's not really about whether she bangs sonic or not, it's more about sonic being outright annoyed or seeing her as a nuisance makes people look uncharitably to the dynamic rather than seeing it as a positive story.
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How is Sonic not big enough for directs anymore?
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>>580415062
>Not big enough anymore
>Implyinhg
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>>580412249
>>580413094
SSSfags suck but they aren't the ones making the arguments right now.
Also Blazefags literally the same thing and have a chip on their shoulder over Silver doing it instead of her in 06.
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You must be 18 to buy videogames.
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>>580415013(me)
>>580414906

and considering the dynamic is most of the focus on her character, it needs to be seen as endearing rather than merely impeding the two, you can't really prevent people from projecting when the communication of it is flawed.

heroes for example had her make the banter at a stupid timing where people actually thought the fight was about her wanting sonic. (the actual reason is still dumb and contrived for a boss fight to happen, but still the reason gets obscured when the banter happens in the worst timing)
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>>580415178
There was one point where Nintendo gave him a focused direct and a Sega focused direct as well
Now Sonic’s big anniversary game is a fucking sizzle reel game
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Sonic Team is holding off on announcements because they know Geoff Keighley has his eye on them. This year's Game Awards is going to end with Geoff coming out on stage, he'll be in tears (of joy), an absolute blubbering mess, barely intelligible as he announces the greatest thing he has ever seen in his entire life... a good 3D Sonic game. The lights will dim and the trailer will start and soon, we'll all be in tears too.
I've never been more excited for the flute guy to start rocking the Green Hills theme. It's going to be beautiful. You guys have no idea.
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>>580414239
>I don't think it's her best characterization at all, but I think it establishes her character very well -going forward-, and it's certainly an important part of her story.
Agreed and absolutely. But like SA2, I feel most of what people shill about it ultimately is her being useful to the arc of another major character they already like.
Which is good. It's one of Amy's strengths as a character and one of the reasons I love her and think she is underated, bit sometimes it feels like the presence or absence of that determines whether the person agrees she is good or not rather than appreciating her actual character. Her love for Sonic gets treated as a "flaw" by these people and her doing the redeeming thing is treated as...well, redeeming an "otherwise bad character" and its annoying.

>>580414450
Not true. This is a fandom issue. Especially western.
>>580414535
See the above. I love it and even would say its required reading for ghe character, but I wouldnt call it her best "characterization". People are so main character and spotlight status seeking brained they confuse characterization for just getting Dubs in the characterfag clout competition.

Heroes Amy is still her best characterization imo when it comes to actual characterization. Unleashed as well.
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>>580414837
>Most of it yes but i see more people talking about thematics or character dynamics when it comes to Sonamy or the more ''vanilla/canon adjacent'' ones,
Yes, canonshippers are the ones that care more about that stuff but canonshippers are seen as villains in shipping discourse.
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Sonic Pico Park releasing between the Ocarina of Time remake and GTA 6 is so fucking sad man. No one is gonna play that shit for more than an hour.
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>>580416069

Ehh i don't like heroes writing much in general.
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>>580415013
Yes but if the audience wanted to bang her, it wouldnt matter.
Sonic and Sally bickered all the time and yet people treat the characters being and off and breaking up as the writers ruining the pairing by comparison.
...because they wanted to bang her and saw her as a trophy bf.

Most of Knuckles and Rouge's dynamic is fighting with thinly veiled sexual tension and teasing.
No one questions it other than rival shippers.

The simple reality is the people with that attitude are that way because they don't see Amy as a babe or a prize. (Even though in-universe she is a fucking gyaru)

Back in the day, I actually remember a lot of people seeing it as more "why isn't Sonic just fucking her? Is he gay" type deal.
The disconnect just comes from the fact its how people understand the trope of "girl chases guy" in the USA in cartoons. The equate it as the girl being an undesirable ans annoying person who is desperate and then turn their brain off.
For fangirls, this is unfun because people will make fun of you and the character for never getting with the guy. And in general like I said, cute pink girly characters on my guys action game series is just seen as "target for bullying".
So now you have the fangirls asking for changes so they don't get bullied for liking Amy. Assuming they arent only fans of her just because she is the main/only prominent girl to begin with, which is its oen can of worms.
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>>580408836
I wouldn't be surprised if his name was really "Backwoods"
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>>580416909
crossovers are so faggy dude, this franchise exists to be arm candy to be pimped out
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>>580416761
I said characterization. You're doing the very thing I'm critiquing lol
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>>580416069
>But like SA2, I feel most of what people shill about it ultimately is her being useful to the arc of another major character they already like.
For me, she shines in that game because she's already taking her lessons from SA1 to heart. Right from the start she's somehow made her way to Prison Island alone to rescue Sonic. And certainly, by the end, her resolve to do what only she can to help is what ultimately turns everything around. I think it's a great game for her character, but one that people do look at pretty narrowly.
>Her love for Sonic gets treated as a "flaw" by these people and her doing the redeeming thing is treated as...well, redeeming an "otherwise bad character" and its annoying.
This is very frustrating, though.
>Heroes Amy is still her best characterization imo when it comes to actual characterization. Unleashed as well.
I can't agree too hard on Heroes. It's actually a good game for that, but it feels poorly executed. Like she's out there helping Cream and Big and is even willing to go toe-to-toe with Sonic to help get Chocola and Froggy back. But I just don't think her character is communicated very well, which is why so many people look at it as one of the worst versions of her. I think that's sort of a problem Heroes has in general. But I agree on Unleashed. She's great in that game. I always think about the scene where everyone's convinced the world is about to end, and she's that shining beacon of hope to everyone around her.
>Prof. Pickle: The planet is lost!
>Amy: That won't happen! There's no way Sonic will let it end like this!
>...
>Amy: I told you, didn't I? There was no way Sonic would let something like that happen.
>Prof Pickle: And right you were.
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>>580386184
CLASSIC SONIC WON AGAIN.
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>>580416069
It is completely a writing issue. No one is written well if they’re aren’t given real focus, they’re usually nerfed or flanderized to prop up whoever is getting focus, usually Sonic
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>>580417091
Silver and Dapple!
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>>580383115
>sonic with a smartphone
Seems like an odd choice. I don't even care about the "not for sale" aspect. It's just a weird product to begin with
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>>580417418
It displays her qualities as a spunky moodmaker and her leadership style well, but the dynamics she has with big and cream aren't my fav in general, i also still think the fight she had with Team sonic or the whole motivation was kind of dumb, both the actual reason and the miscommunication team sonic did with it. I still like heroes amy though, it's definitely better than her characterizations in stuff like forces or lost world.

>>580417248
Yes the audience is stupid and disingenious, but i am making the agument that sonic team was incompetent in properly communicating their intentions regardless, this is not just caring about appealing to moralfags or wanting sonic to kiss her. and it's honestly not just amy or shipping stuff where this happens. i realized when i rewatched cutscenes or tried to argue people about series themes in general they actually did a bad job in communicating a lot of crap.
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>>580384439
Sueing is less about *making* money in this context. It's about establishing that you'll take legal action against people who profit off your IP willy-nilly.

That said, I don't know enough about the Ken Penders Saga to know if he's being unreasonable or not (and please don't try to explain it to me)
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>>580417631
>For me, she shines in that game because she's already taking her lessons from SA1 to heart. Right from the start she's somehow made her way to Prison Island alone to rescue Sonic. And certainly, by the end, her resolve to do what only she can to help is what ultimately turns everything around. I think it's a great game for her character, but one that people do look at pretty narrowly.
I agree!
>Heroes stuff
Notice how none of how she is viewed in that game os actually about her as a character? It's about 1 scene being interpreted in a meme way.

What i like about Heroes Amy is it highlights the strengths of Amy as a character rather than just in regards to how she helps support another character's story or arc. She is also super proactive and spunky and has sass and tude, which i love and really miss. Girl was on demon timing.
But nope, can't apreciate any of that. Heroes is the game where people say "she threw Sonic off a building to force him to marry her". Tiresome.

In Heroes, Amy's compasion is there as well as her optimism and positive attitude, but the focus of it isn't just in service to someone else's arc, but in reagrds to showing the strength of her as a character herself. More focus goes to her "dont just wait around" and "if she sets her mind to something, she takes it all the way" attitude, which i think is important and doesnt get highlighted enough.
People would rather just focus on her being empathetic in a vacuum instead of how it ties into the rest of her character, which feeds into the problem i mentioned before of people treating her as "an otherwise bad character" being redeemed by redeeming "the actual cool characters you actually care about". For comparison, I think her talk with Elise actually mogs her talk.with Gamma, but since it's with a character a lot of people dont care about, people dont give her her flowers.
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Hey, you, you're finally awake! Aw geez, that must've been quite the fall, huh? Big oof. Where are you? Don't worry! You're in my humble abode beneath the castle! Blackwood told me to sleep in the septic tank when he didn't need me around, but it turns out it connects to all sorts of neat little crypts! I know when I'm needed in the bedroom because Blaze's moans echo real loud down here. Hey, don't be sad, crying is a-okay here friendo. There's nothing wrong with letting your emotions out! Bottling them up is toxic masculinity, which is no-bueno. Hey, I could use them to water the plants in the garden I've got down here! Don't mind the smell, I'm just taking advantage of all the "fertilizer" Blackwood gives me. Just you see, Dapple, this is going to be our new home away from home! Isn't Master Blackwood so generous?
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>>580417402
Calling what exactly?
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>>580418286
Tails' Lawyer...
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>>580419092
I bet you were giggling while writing this wall of dogshit
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>>580418604
>It displays her qualities as a spunky moodmaker and her leadership style well
Don't agree. Not unless youre gonna apply this to Team Dark as well because of how they fight Team Chaotix.

Both sides shitting on it just do it because of ship autism frankly.
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>>580419372
Yeah i think heroes fights are dumb and contrived in general, i said i don't like heroes writing in general
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>>580419098
In the filename, Dapple...
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>>580419083
>Notice how none of how she is viewed in that game os actually about her as a character? It's about 1 scene being interpreted in a meme way.
Yeah, I basically said as much. I think Heroes is a bunch of good ideas that just aren't written well, and the troglodytes that usually engage with it don't actually put any brain power into anything. The mid-battle dialogue for both sides of that scene establish it's just banter and what the true purpose of the fight is, but trying to explain that is like slamming your head on a brick wall hoping it'll give at some point.
>06
Another excellent game for Amy's character. Probably the best one, IMO. But one that I think people often choose to interpret maliciously.
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>>580419485
But she doesn't even recognize the castle when she woke up
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>>580419346
Why are you so mad
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>>580418604
>Yes the audience is stupid and disingenious, but i am making the agument that sonic team was incompetent in properly communicating their intentions regardless
Except non-fans get it just fine and just see it as Sonic being avoidant of hos defacto gf.
The discourse is almost purely within the fandom. People outside of it adopted these narratives from memes created in-fandom.
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Hiiiii Blaze! You're looking extra flat today! W-WUH? Are those... TOP SCARS??? What happened, Blaze? Oh? BLACKWOOD convinced you to CHOP OFF YOUR TITS to reach an ENTIRE NEW LEVEL OF FLAT? WOWZERS! And what's that? Your chest is now SO FLAT that it's caused a FRACTURE IN REALITY, allowing Blackwood's COCK to NO-CLIP and enter the FLATROOMS? And now, all sorts of MISSHAPEN ENTITIES will come out of your BARREN TORSO, all equipped with DEFORMED, MUTLI-LIMBED PENISES? WHAT??? Blackwood has spent so much time INSIDE YOU that the POCKET DIMENSION inside you is creating MISREMEMBERED DUPLICATES based on his likeness??? GEE WILLIKERS! And he's BEFRIENDED THEM, working ALONGSIDE THEM to GANGBANG YOU? SWEET! What's that? You're going to TRAP ME in the NEVERENDING MAZE OF YOUR NONEXISTENT BOSOM, in the hopes of producing INANIMATE, STILL-LIFE KEKVERS? And that the next time Blackwood RAILS YOU, I'll be sitting and watching from a CHAIR made out of ME? WOAH! YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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ironic shitposting to bump the thread is just proving it should die
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>>580419669
Idk, i saw nonshipfag casuals still misunderstand the scene i was talking about, they just saw it as a cartoon gag instead of something to sperg over, and over again. i myself was confused about it until i researched a bit. (and i still find the actual reason a bit dumb)
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>>580419857(me)

inb4 calling out my autism, this was before i was engaging in sonic fandom as heroes was one of my first games years ago.
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>>580419857
I think it's illustrative of how cooked shit is when we have it where people see it as more contrived rhat Amy would fight Sonic over stolen pets (because why would she not assume he is innocent by default) than her randomly and pledged trying to beat him up and force him into marriage.(which should be too ridiculous to take seriously on its face)

That said, i'm pretty sure the knowledge of why they wefe fighting being revealed in Team Rose story is the point, but i digress.
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>>580420576
>people see it as more contrived rhat Amy would fight Sonic over stolen pets (because why would she not assume he is innocent by default)
I have literally had to argue with someone about this here in this general.
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>>580420576
No it's not about it being more contrived, both are contrived forced reasons desu but personal preferences aside the only way you'd know the actual reason is by battle dialogue and most people aren't going to see it because the fight isn't hard enough for it to drag long enough for you to see
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>>580415280
SSSfags ARE Silverfags. Sonic and Shadow fags don’t need to cling to that astroturfed trio at all
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>>580420842
That's one of the things I mean when I say Heroes is kinda poorly executed. Shad05 has the same problem.
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>>580420767
My point is people bring that up to try and paint her allegedly trying to beat him up and throw him off a building to force him into marriage as more plausible by comparison (which is ridiculous on tis face).

The former is more just something you criticize because its there to force a character fight.
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How was the new IDW?
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>>580420942
>astroturfed
Are Shadowfags really this insecure?
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>>580419215
Are you just gonna call me your imaginary boogeyman or are you gonna say anything resembling a rational thought?
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>>580420942
Every characterfag is like this in general, if it was blaze who joined the fight while Silver took iblis or something (which wouldn't make sense for the symbolism of it but w/e) blazefags would celebrate the solaris fight as kino, or heck if it was somehow tails, tailsfags would celebrate it. only exception is maybe shadowfags who want him to be less focused on rivalry with sonic.
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>>580421126
It's alright for a first issue
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>>580420842
The opening cutscene of the game is Amy helping Cream and Big find Chocola and Froggy with a Newspaper with Sonic having taken em.
The whole reason they are in Grand Metropolis is to find Sonic for this reason.
The in-battle dialogue gets brought up moreso to further dismiss the claims people make that Amy supposedly never cared about helping them and was just using them (yes, a real thing people insisted)
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>>580421126
Lunar tier, the entire issue is just some OC bitch crying in the Backrooms because the artist is too lazy to draw any consistent backgrounds
It's great if you jerk off to mind control porn, because that's all the issue has going for it
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>>580421061
>My point is people bring that up to try and paint her allegedly trying to beat him up and throw him off a building to force him into marriage as more plausible by comparison (which is ridiculous on tis face).
Right, and that's not even the worst part. I literally had to argue WHY she thought it happened in the first place. As if it wasn't just blatantly there on screen. It's not that they think Amy wanting to marry him by force is more realistic, they don't even know what the game's plot setup is.
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>>580421156
Not a shadowfag but SSS is absolutely astroturfed, was from the beginning
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Evil sex with Blackwood and Infinite
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>>580421197
>imaginary boogeyman
Not fooling anyone.
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>>580421492
Then who is astroturfing the popularity of SSS, then?
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GUYS, RED ALERT! WE HAD A NEW LOREDROP NO ONE NOTICED IN IDW #89.
The Never Lake region (which looks more like a peninsula than an island) is now apparently the land of "Sylvania" (after the castle zone).
MIRAGE ISLAND IS DEAD!
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>>580421992
….Silverfags…pay attention
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>>580421471
I wanna believe its because they didnt play Team Rose's story in the first place. They played Team Sonic and Team Dark and died at like Rail Canyon.

But im not even confident in THAT anymore. I think the average person legit just has TikTok and smartphone brain and needs the characters to explain it out loud and have it debated and quibbled over for it to register for them.

I showed my friend the SA2 Amy rescue scene and then had to explain to him in real time "no, Amy did not hold Sonic in jail against his will here". The next day, the realization fucked him up so hard he texted me about it and how i was right people project tropes and cliches and dont pay attention to the actual thing I front of them.
Blew his mind how correct I was.
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>>580421976
>>580422002
Is that important?
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>>580421298
but this is issue 89
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>>580422153
SSS is popular because of how it was used in 06 too, not just because people like Silver as an individual character
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Shadow with short quills is cute
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It was me, i did the astrosmurfing.
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>>580421976
>>580422293
Katieslop
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>>580422591
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>>580422598
>sonadow
Get out.
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>>580422283

OK heroes is badly executed but SA2 one is legit bad faith
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>>580422591
/sthg/ has posters from different dimensions and timelines
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>>580407908
>other girls have other discussions all the time.
Oh yes, the great discussions on how
>Amy's love gets censored
>Rouge's tits get censored and being irrelevant without Shadow
>Maria ship or sibling arguments
>Tangle and Whisper lesbo shipping
>Surge is a tsundere for Sonic
>Lanolin's tits
>Cream
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oh no! amy is being dragged off to the next thread. this must be the final amy of this thread!
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>>580423065

This is 4chanbrain, only the amy and rouge ones are actually common.
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Last Barry of the thread
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>>580422975
But anon, I have nowhere else to go, you want me to be homeless?
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>>580423065
To be fair...
There is a LOT to discuss here.
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When this fiona finishes her plate, a new thread is made.
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>>580423265
Yes
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>>580423262
Tickling Barry's huge paws
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>>580422002
I don't know about that.
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>>580423365
>I CAN STILL TASTE SCOURGES COCK WHEN FIONA GAVE ME THAT LAST KISS. BUY ME BETTER TOOTHPASTE SONIC...
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>>580423495
Just go watch porn bro.
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gross
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>>580423495
kek
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>>580423495
homeless the hedgehog won't do that because that would be against sonic's wind code (and his lack of money)
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>>580423495
>Sorry little buddy! That's the strongest there is. You might have to use that impressive noggin of yours to invent the world's strongest toothpaste. I believe in you Tails!
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>>580423495
Between Silver cuckposter, Blaze cuckposters and Tailsfaggots you guys are starting to piss me off
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The things (You) do for a (You)s.
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i wish mobius unleashed never happened
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>>580424206
>>580424206
>>580424206
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>i wish mobius unleashed never happened
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>>580423213
>This is 4chanbrain
Shadow and Maria arguments hit the mainstream with Jimmy Fallon and movie 3.
Tangle and Whisper are literally only talked about for shipping.
Surge is also talked about only for shipping whether its being tsun for Amy or Sonic.
Lanolin's tits is the only saving grace of her character that even her creator inflates it every appearance.
Nobody cares or talks about Cream.
Nobody gives a fuck about women.
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>>580422002
Yeah we know the castle is fake and Blackwood's a fraud. Though the fact that it's right on top of Little Planet's spawn area sure is interesting
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Blackwood era of /sthg/ is the worst era
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Hoe thinks she is Gwen Stacy
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>>580420559
It was the opposite for me. I was expecting bottom of the barrel sludge from Evan after how bad she botched her previous stories and was pleasantly surprised. Feels great having some actual stakes and mystery after “BAAAHHH MUH PARENTS TOOK MUH PHONE!” Silver wasn’t emasculated either and got to be a hero even if there wasn’t a lot of focus on him.
Godzilla is soulless slop, way worse than the DC crossover. Whole crossover sucks at a conceptual level, nobody can even meaningfully interact with the kaiju.



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