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It's so crazy how people think that $20/month AI that's better than them at coding, writing and art isn't going to replace them.
>>580483408Based OP. Mucho Progress. Ignore the crabs.
I'm following this tutorial for Godot and currently at a small roadblock regarding the attack animation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnuXie3xVUFor some reason clicking "Z", the attack button for this project, causes the character animation to get stuck in the position it was moving in and stays in it. Here's a pastebin just in case, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong since I followed the guide to a T so far. https://pastebin.com/xyAPQWH7
>>580483705Yeah hopefully there are no crabby cat posters in this thread.
>>580483714I think you might be missing the signal. click the animated sprite node, connect signal to script.also this code quality is bad. there are better tuts out there.
Tell me your game ideas anon! I like hearing game ideas!
>>580484620go to /v/>billion dollar idea>no programming skills>crying.jpgharvest ideas
>>580484620>Tell me your game ideas anon! I like hearing game ideas!Yeah, isn't crazy that we've been making video games for 50 years, and ideas are still worthless compared to execution, even with AI?
>>580484620>AI can make anything>can't even imagine his own games for AI to make>has to go begging people for ideasabsolut state of AI sloppers
was any fan art posted for DD70
>>580484620A management game / dating sim where you play as a girl who owns a farm of male minotaurs and you must figure out how increase their milk output in various ways. Based on the best-selling romance novel.
To encourage build diversity, there are a lot of passive skills. Here's one called "Combination," which turns a character's basic unarmed attack into a two hit combo with a chance to deal a third hit with large knockback. All skills - Active or passive - Occupy a skill slot. Every weapon type, even unarmed, has it's own skills you can master.I'm having so much fun.
>>580484532Does the "_on_animated_sprite_2d_animation_finished" signal not count? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you mean. I don't mind if the code is considered low quality, I'm just getting my feet wet at the moment since this is my first time touching Godot. Thank you for taking the time to reply
>>580485548neatI only wish it wouldn’t look so 8bit
>>580485749that's 1bit anon
>>580485803how do you make more than 1 colour with 1 bit
>>580485749Makes me happy
>>580484620A game where you feed pigs
>>580485872each 8x8 tile holds 1 color(black and the color)nta
>>580485449Based, then come out with a spin off where you play a stud minotaur that gets auctioned off to different farm owners to stud, with a Stardew Valley style farm where the minotaur can train king fu and stuff until the farm woman calls him into the house for the evening.
>>580485985fucking hell that's a sexy team
>>580485735that's a function. there's a step where you press the node and connect the signal to the function.
>>580485735Don't thank him for replying, this isn't discord or reddit where you have to beg and grovel on your knees for attention. On /agdg/ anons are required by law to reply to all questions
A bad idea is better than nothing.
Garbage in, garbage out.
>>580486340you lost me
>>580486149I call it "the slaughterhouse"
>>580486840I see, I did that beforehand but still came across the issue then. It's probably that I messed up the movement/animations since the character only has sprites for going left and right, which likely caused the weird reactions. I've got it working better now and will tinker more with that stuff to get the attack animation to play properly
>>580488246Make one for the ladies, then one for the gents.
There's a local/cultural card game that nobody outside or even inside my country knows about. I'd like to dev it, publish it on Steam for free, maybe sell some cosmetics/card backs on the side but mostly I'm interested in deving it because I want to play it with my friends, give old boomers a way to play it with their friends/each other and preserve a small part of our culture.What kinda engines/stuff should I look into? It should have voice chat and multiplayer, otherwise it's just a card game.
>>580485749At least it looks good, probably cuts down the dev time by a lot, too
is there a more chudcore fantasy than infrastructural expansionismjust building shit and taking over the universe
>>580488762Honestly sounds easiest to just build this as a website. Would also have the lowest barrier to entry.
>>580488762Unity, Godot, Game Maker, or even Board Game Simulator. Balatro was made in MonoGame, honestly, you can make a game in literally anything. Just do a little reading into all of these and see which one suits you best. Without knowing your knowledge level it's tough to give a recommendation, but this sounds like a fun and doable project.
Mongol.
slept for 6 hours tired as shitcan't decide if I want to nap
>>580489440or ingest energy drinks
>>580489254Nice. Haven't seen it in months. Was wondering where you were going with those models.
High protein pudding after breakfast. It's not like sweets, alright? It doesn't have sugar in it, not even lactose. 50 days left until I run out of money. I owe 2600 minutes of work. Yesterday I was again debugging terrain generation but finally fixed it. For now. Today I'll be working on player death anims and particles.
>>580489135>>580489147Thanks for the input anons! I did consider Tabletop simulator but since I want the game to be free and accessible so older people can play it that is out of the question. Same with RPGmaker since you need to DL libraries etc etc. I didn't mention it but I was also planning on releasing it for Android/iphone as a lot of older people don't have Steam but they do have phones plus that way VC is easy to enable. I'll look into Godot. The game is easy to code but the difficulty comes from implementing quality of life stuff that non-gamers, old people can instantly use. Basically voice chat, no registration, ease of finding games with people who share your language, observing board state (although this is harder on a phone)Thanks again
>locking in editionMake sure you lock in your signup to the v3jam happening October 4th-10th. https://itch.io/jam/v3expos-world-famous-game-jam-2
>>580489254>giving your main char an actual body Delete this
>>580490290Can I submit print and play?
Yay I failed again.
>>580490583Just think of all the people that wish they could fail but don't even get the chance to try
Where the last few aggy games complete flops?
>>580489254looking good
>>580491320last few didn't cross 100 reviews, if that's a flop I guess.
>posted demo in DD>receive several posts of positive feedback with some minor, but justified complaints>but I know my game sucksThe way I see it, there are 3 possible scenarios at play here:A. This place is a circle-jerking hugbox where no one is honest (isn't this supposed to be 4chan?)B. You're all feds and paid agents setting me up for my downfall.C. I'm wrong (absolutely impossible since I made the game so I know it sucks)So which is it, Mr. Glowie?
>>580492463I don't think in this case you can have honesty without anonymity. And I could honestly give positive feedback to many games that flopped. These days to flop you just need to be in the top 10% instead of top 5%
>>580492463demodays are huge hugboxing because people using their dev names don't have the balls to say what needs to be saidI can't even bring myself to bother with most demos anymore they are so fucking bad
>>580492463>Aitch isn't 4chan so no
>>580492463We just love video games here!
>>580492463Was the feedback here or on the itch page?
>>580492858wtf the colors are in the wrong orderred green blue yellow is the correct order.
>>580492970proof?
>>580492828But we're all literal whos here, even if a guy on itch is a proper dev with a successful game, fuck am I gonna do? Get his game reviewbombed and his livelihood ruined by calling him a meanie? >>580492890I think one guy commented on it ITT but it was positive too. The rest was on itch.
>>580492463It's being judged relative to the quality bar expected of a free demo on itch and not a commercial game on steam. Really not that deep
>>580493064GGRKS
>>580492463Which game?Generally demos get comments based on their apparent level of potential, we can give props to federx for working on a mech game he can never hope to get to the AAA quality it wants to be - but it’s understood that he is aware of that fact. So no reason to dunk on it.On the other hand there’s people making a super polished "turd" where you get the feeling they might be deluding themselves into perhaps hoping for a success in spite of many clear problems. Those projects garner negative comments, because apparently the author is unaware of the issues.tl;dr if you’re game is self-aware bad it will not draw much negative criticism
>>580492970
>>580493667I thought it was the windows logo due to the angle.
>>580493173you'd be surprised how spiteful some of these niggas are
>remember that time over two years ago
>>580493463>Which game?I'm embarrassed to say now after accusing anons of being either hugboxers or glowies.I do get your point, though. I hope I'm just having a self-doubt meltdown again and willingly misconstruing obviously positive feedback. My demo is decently polished so if you're right and I'm right, then I'd have people calling me a total retard. Which means one of us is wrong and I hope it's me.
>>580481282based and rainboltpilled
good morning aggybros... today I woke up with a cold so proggy might be slow... i'll go get some tea and cigs for breakfast
>>580494037niggas need jesus in they lives
Are you sure the confusion is not just you wanting feedback about whether your game would make money on steam, while the feedback you get is about the game being good and sovlful enough to give other gamedevs a few minutes of fun for free?
Massive upgrade, you can now stay hydrated in game! You'll still starve to death though.
Morning bros. Today I'm playing Minecraft until my UberEats breakfast arrives, then I'll take a nap.
My back hurts. Got fired from my last job two months ago and still no luck.... :(Sucks being a neet because I've got bills to pay.
>>580490290this guy is a doxer
Would you rather havea million people play your game for free, so get $0or5k people play your game, so you get $25k?Let's pretend these are the only two options and you can't jew your way into earning money for the $0 game
>>580497776How is that even a question, of course it's "a million people play your game for free, so get $0", then I make a sequel and sell it for 1$ and make 1 million dollars minus taxes.
>>580498032this obviously an audience is worth more than 25k
>>580497776you already asked this a week ago
>>580483408How the fuck do people design rpg-type high depth combat systems from scratch?Like look at the divinity original sin games, probably the best example I can think of.How did they physically plan all that out? How do you go from a blank sheet of paper to that?
a game about jews :)
>>580498032>>580498074First order thinking. Just because a million people played your game for free, you're assuming a million would pay a dollar for it. In fact you have your answer in the second case, 5k people paid $10 for the game so after Steam's cut and taxes you have $25k left. But to get the same numbers from the sequel, you have to make a sequel. So in the second case you make a game and get $25k. In the first case + sequel you make two games and get $25k.
>>580498276Fortunately you don’t even need to plan it all upfront, the whole point about these combat systems is that you set some high-level facts ("axioms") and the whole interaction depth kinda follows naturally from it.So it’s mostly about finding a good tech foundation that allows everything to interact with everything flexibly (ECS), then throw whatever mechanics you think of at it and voilá it’s deep.
>>580498032>>580498401From running other sites, in general for pure entertainment stuff without dark patterns 2% will convert at minimum. So you have to sell it at $50 to make $1M.Realistically though it’ll be more that convert.
>>5804977765k play it and get 25k. if 1 million play it, some AI cloner would clone it and make money. I gotta get something out of this deal(if it is cloned at 5k players)
>>580498683Just clone the game yourself, clone it like 10 times so you make a billion dollars and buy Steam.
>>580498759A billion wouldn't even buy you Gaben's yachts.
>>5804986372%-5% will convert in a freemium model, but this would have to be a sequel and a paid one at that.
>>580497776in option 1, can I have paid DLC? please say yes, I am tired of ramen
>>580499370>I am tired of ramenater living in japan for 3 years honestly samethe bread here sucks so ramen was my go to breakfastnow im fucking exhausted if i even see ramen
unrealbros?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHee-rzSS_c
>>580499579>>580499370I’m not even hurting for money, but as soon as I realized that a block of ramen plus one can of chicken had the ideal macros, my brain decided any other meal is a lavish expense requiring explicit justification.
>>580497776take the 25k, i can survive for a few years with this, i'll make a good game during the time this game providesor take the 1m players and ask for donations but idk how feasible that is, might push people away and not provide the results i wantis it likely to get at least 25k from asking 1m people for donations? what are the numbers on this?
>>580499579I wish I lived in Japan....Why don't you eat rice on breakfast?
>>580501171OP implies you can't ask for money with the 1m, but at least you would have a dedicated fanbase if you could pull off living until you make a second game.
>>580501346>you can't jew your way into earning money for the $0 gamebut you CAN build a following on social media from the game and start kickstarter/patreon/ko-fi campaigns for another game you're makingthis way you're not making money from the $0 game but are instead making money from fans of the $0 game going out of their way to interact with you and support the development of further gamespossibly
>his game's magic system doesnt have a 80+ page document dedicated to explaining it and the loreNGMI
>>580501627with one item description I will spawn 5 hour video essays on the lore
>>580501627It does!
Soon.
>>580501827can he get a shadow? unity right?
>>580502049>can he get a shadow?Ok, I'll fix it.>unity right?Yeah.
>>580501627I try to do most work in the actual game so that I don’t feel like a fakedev.
mechanicsslop
Should i do a degenerate taboo porn game or a wonderful rpg? Or should i make a wonderful rpg with elements of taboo fetishes but more subtle
>>580502294shadows can match the spritehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/KGG2V4ZkXTg
>>580502826Make the taboo fetishes the enemies as freakish monsters
>>580502826Wonderful RPG with a day 1 degenerate mod release on nexus that isn’t connected to you at all.Otherwise you’ll spend all your time fighting card companies.
>>580502826you know you're not going to do either
>>580502826Degenerate taboo porn game.
>>5804977761 million for 0% easy. You can do so much with that player base: another game, youtube channel, whateverI make more than 25k at my job and that much would not last me long with the cost of living in my area
>>580502826Wonderful rpg with some sexy enemy monster girlsthat's what I'm doing
>>580502992>shadows can match the spriteSaved, thank you kindly.
Which of these music genres is best as the BGM for an isometric action roguelite?>hard trance>drum and bass>neurofunkIve never seen these in a game to be honest, only racing games really use these genres usually
>>580503652Hard Trance clearly.
>>580490072Fat.
>>580503854I don't disagree but why hard trance specifically? Why do you think it fits best?
>>580503652Dungeon Synth of course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UdPzvuEOis
>>580503854seconded. holy fuck I haven't been to youtube in a while for music and it's OVERRUN with AI music. it's like finding a needle in a haystack for real music when just looking for genre.
>I don't disagree but why hard trance specifically? Why do you think it fits best?
>>580504107that also sounds good yeah
I still have to finish my demo for tomorrow's SAGE expo and I also have to study for 3 separate tests...
>>580504261how do you have so many tests the semester has just started
>>580501627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0qmkQGqpM8
>>580504261>he's still getting a degree>just because a bunch of old farts told him toohahahahahahahaa
>>580503934idk what if your isometric action game was a drifting game where you slam into crowds for points? (million dollar idea feel free to steal)
Finally retiring the old vitality display from earliest Marotte prototypes when it was solitaire combat.
>>580504542from ai slop to sovl
>>580483408Gamedev music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oHR8jgf-jg
Is he right?
>>580505545Who is he blowing?
https://x.com/Sosowski/status/2098004166052360504
>>580504542Circular health bars are kino. :> I also chose one for my game.
Klein bottle shaped health bars are where its at
>>580504709Blender came in handy.I don't like how the type set looks for the names, so I'll probably go back to code to handle that visual instead of stringing together 3D letters and gluing them on.
>>580505652himself
where can I find good UI packs, preferably for free? hard mode: no itch.io, fab, unity asset store
>>580506468make your own with chatgpt
i'm having a nice cheese maruchan for breakfast bros today is sprite making day and I'm feeling a bit better from my cold...
>>580506637I won't use ai except for code
>>580506930>I won't use ai except for codeyour loss
>>580506930foolish
>>580506930Arbitrary and silly, images aren’t magically more important than the codebase
>>580506468opengameart.org
>>580507162ZAMN look at all these low quality assets that everyone will instantly mistake for AI and harass you on X for using them!
>>580505720This happened to me. some dick called indie game joe just posted my game and farmed likes etc
>>580506468That really is hard mode. There are tools that can get you a pack in a day, but you have to operate them and have some taste.
>>580507954give me a tutorial then, I can use inkscape and have top-tier taste
>>580508113>tutorial>in 2026unc...
>>580504709
What free program is best for 2D art? I've been using GIMP but its UI is so unintuitive. Might unironically start using MSPaint because it's so easy to use.
>>580508113so you already have inkscape...well, what is stopping you from using it?
>>580508981the best ones are photoshop and clipstudio but theyre not free. not expensive thoughbeit for clipstudio
>>580508981I use aseprite(free if you get it from github). I like pixel art and just aliased art I guess. I like to have layers and be able to animate quickly. idk I think the latest MSpaint has quite a bit of stuff but I'm still on win 10
>>580508981I'd stick with Gimp. It's far more powerful than normies realize but you have to make an effort
>>580506930respectable, I am the same way. but it's because I am an art god. if I sucked I might feel differently
>>580492463Itch comments aren't really anonymous so nobody says anything super hurtful. Posting in the threads is better for that.But also if it's clear a game is just a bad idea and nothing will save it, people just suggest what they can to be helpful rather than suggest that you completely remake the game or give up.Also if you're clearly a beginner nobody is going to tell you to implement changes that are beyond what you can reasonably do. It's like grading a 13 year old's essay.
>>580508981Aseprite is pretty easy to use/intuitive and free as the other anon mentioned. It's standard for pixel artist to use it anyway. MSPaint has like no way to animate.
>>580508981There's no single "2D art', there are many kinds of 2D art and specialized programs for each kind. Since you're using Gimp maybe you'd like to use Krita.
>>580508981>>580509136>>580509242>>580509468>>580509504Thanks guys.I've never heard of Krita but I'll look into it.I've heard good things about Aesprite but I'm not really going for a pixel art look with this game, would it still work?If it helps I'm coming from a traditional art background (painting and pastels mostly).
>>580505720If your game is that simple is it really even stealing? It's just a tractor farming sim.It would be like a comedian getting accused of stealing because he made a yo mama joke.
>>580509706If you're not doing pixel art then Krita or pirate a paint program like Clip Studio.
Did anyone make fanart for Demo Day 70?
>>580509706Post painting
>>580509917it is stealing when the slopper went>hey AI look at this tweet>make this game for me
>>580509917The mechanic isn't really stealing but the assets being 1:1 ripoff would be easy to file an DMCA on.
>>580510047no more DD fanart until moral improves
>>580510197You can't steal ideas
>>580507728I hate that guy, all he does is steal content and whine on X when people don't worship him for it. He probably thought he was doing you a favor.
>>580510047No. will you do it please?
>>580510392>He probably thought he was doing you a favor.He is at least he will feel like that, just like YouTubers did 10 years ago everybody called them out on it they're just reacting and look where we ended up.
>Need to pause my progress to study how to draw clothes because all I've done my whole life is draw naked womenPAIN
Is it okay to include futanaris and femboys in a normal rpg game or will it get me banned on steam? It won't have nudity or sex but the futas will have massive cock bulges and the femboys small ones
i hate my chud life
>>580511368I hate you too.
>>580511006Just draw robot bitches. naked but not naked ya know?
>>580510385patents would disagree
>>580511134Frame it as "trans empowerment" instead of a fetish and the troons will promote your game for free
what if i dont dev a game and only become the manager of the team of devs? sounds dumb at first, but devs seem to hate to organize anything, they just want to draw/dev and nothing else.
>>580511641There's a difference?
jugaad era of devving is finally hereI win
>>580511701Not really at all in execution but you could mention it in the marketing or store/download page
>>580511692I'd just want you to do the marketing
>>580511692Big studio teams need managers, but an indie team of 2-4 would just be slowed down by one. Also if you're not knowledgeable about game dev how will you manage them effectively?
I hate marketing because all my games are ugly
>>580509706I use Krita and then send over to Photoshop for cleanup. And I just like the name of the program.
>>580511958>if you're not knowledgeable about game dev how will you manage them effectively?This is a big issue in the industry right now. Bunch of people in leadership positions who have no place being there.
>>580512115Industry is collapsing anyways who cares
Do these mobile game slops make any money? Recently, I played some to engage in a sort of "play that, get rewards here" for a certain app, and they are awful. Generic assets, generic gameplay, takes ages to let you play because the tutorials go on far too long, everything is a dumb resource, every screen has one or more interactables, if you watch an ad, they keep spamming the "buy no ads", and even if you skip all the "watch ad" buttons, you get a forced ad break anyway.You know, the usual. But it has been like that for so long... It must work? Also, the ad quality that Google accepts is crazy scammy. One of the popular ad tactics is a similar game to the one you are playing throwing an ad with "YOU JUST HIT YOUR LIMIT WITH THIS GAME VERSION, UPDATE NOW"... Jesus Christ. If it works, I want a piece of this pie. There has to be some catch.
>>580512320If they were successful they wouldn't have to beg you and offer you money to play them
>>580505720when will indie timmies and artcels releaise that the moment you post anything to the Internet it becomes officially public domain and everyone and everyone anywhere in the world is well with in their rights to exploit "your" work for financial gains? If this indie dev is worried about his game becoming "stolen" property then maybe he should have cash in before anyone else can. You snooze you loose.
>>580512320yes, you make free app + in-game payments + some sort of dopamine hit loop and then tie extra dopamine hits to in-game currency you buy for real money and prey on kids and teenagers with their parents credit card info saved to dump money into it
>>580512471nigger if you have a successful product you should use portion of the profits to keep shilling the product even more, popping off and settling instead of re-investing to replace parting players + getting new ones is like big idiot retard mistake 101 anyone can make for live services
>>580512320Mobile games have to spend a significant portion of their revenue on player acquisition. Churn is extremely high. It's a never ending battle. You spend more of your time dealing with ad optimization rather than game development.
>>580511134Depends on how pozzed the game is and how massive the bulgesAlso auto-ban if it’s anime
>>580512320They do, your mistake is thinking that the masses have any taste or agency, whatever slop you pour in front of them they will consume
No fanartOne stream for my gameWay too many replies for the wrong gamesAGDG is DEAD
the problem isnt just managing 2-4 man teams, its also about making them collaborate in the first place, finding each other, working with each other. most people are hardstuck solodevs. getting people to sacrifice their specific goals for a team goal is hard management work.at least i guess it is.
>>580513187not an issue if you're not poor, you just write a design document for your game and pay people to work in it exactly as said or you tell them to fuck off and fire them
>>580513125Would you please stop crying that your 20 minute slop demo didn't get fanart
>>580513125>Way too many replies for the wrong gamesSuch as? For what it's worth, I agree with you. Demo day ain't what it used to be.
>>580513187Yeah the real problem is getting multiple people to agree on a concept.I only want to work on the world and genre I’m working on, not someone else’s.
My sister keeps having friends from school in her room and they're screaming and laughing and making so much noise that I can't concentrate on gamedev. I have to wear headphones just to work in peace in my own house. I can't wait for my game to make it so I can afford my own place
Cris is 100% right, if your only inspirations for making a game are other video games, and not books films art history etc, you will never make anything worthwhile.
>>580513390Hirdrih which was born to be terrible. Pipkin's Quest which is a mobile phone game. Mel The Caramel Dog which who will join Glover in the forgotten scrimbos realm. Marotte since it belongs to an AI avatarfag.
>>580513504Why aren't you making them make noise, if you know what I mean?
>>580513732Stardew Valley
gamedev is a technical problem, not a creative problem.
>>580513390My bf used to participate around DD 25-30 and often says the same when we go through many of the newer ones and their replies. Although they say that my demo is subpar too ahaha.
>>580513732Basically every best selling game ever was inspired by another game so I don't think he's right there.
>>580513891Gamedev is a technical problem for beginners and perma/beg/s who still haven't learned how to do basic technical shit.
>>580513125My prototype got completely ignored(except for one, thank you btw if you're reading this) which is probably a good thing. Next DD I'll have something worth showing.
>>580513732Mi... Miyazaki-sama!
>>580514232FWIW I’ve seen some of your posts and it’s probably the best environment I’ve seen in these threads, looks like something someone was actually paid to make
>>580514164Keyword *only.* It's fine to be inspired by other games. But if you have no other creative inspirations or influences outside of games you are lost.
>>580513891Then why is every successful game that isn’t mobileslop basically defined by looking prettier than other games?>>580513504Rape them into submission>>580513732My inspirations are a combination of books from the 1800s and unironically genshin impact and ironically DOS2.What are my chances?
>>580514164What does that have to do with you
>>580514391
Reminder that I, mongol am a published author in romanian, got published 11 times in a prestigious literary magazine in my cunt.fyi.
every best selling game had a dev behind it who thought it would barely sell 100 copies.
>>580513504Learn to concentrate through noise, it's a good skill to have anyway. If you live in your own place, your neighbors or cars or whatever is going to annoy you so it's best to develop the skill to work while noise is going on.
I asked AI if I should make one of my dream games it said no if you want to make money you should make a vampire survivors clone or a cozy/friendslop game. Maybe that's why there are so many of those being made...
>>580514834AI is pretty bad at coming up with ideas. I prompted it to just come up with a game title and my idea was still better than anything it came up with.Still, I like to ask it for ideas just because sometimes it helps me think of something slightly related to what it suggested.
>>580513783:*
>>580514982Yeah for naming I think it's the worst, it can be better if you use it for assist like asking for synonyms of words, or words related to a concept and you come up with the final name yourself.
>>580506930This is the way. Artlets will never understand sovl
>>580514639Nothing really, my game has historical inspiration in it. I was just commenting that things like Stardew Valley or Minecraft basically have no outside inspiration aside from other games.
zealotry of the skeleton is the most incomprehensible game i have ever seen in demo day and that is saying a lot
>>580514834If you want suicide fuel ask it to do a brutallly honest market research on platformers across the industry. The 2d part was grim as expected, but the 3d part shocked the hell out of me and changed my worldview forever. It debunked almost every cope talking point you see in these threads.
>>580515362history is just another game.
>>580515409Fucking sick ass name though
>>580514725Name 10.
>>580513732my inspiration for making a game is the anime strike witches. I guess that makes me cultured.
>>580515465Who the fuck thinks platformers are viable? The only reason Nintendo is able to put them out is because they have a captive audience.
>>580516514I don't think any "genres" are "viable" anymore, that's the thing.
I love Claude. This is why AI is useful to me. I can code standing on my head so for coding it's just a time saver but for this kind of stuff it will mercilessly shut me down
>>580516262>fanservice slop from last decade>culturedWhat did he mean by this
This scissor animation look alright? May make the effects be a particle in game.
>>580516887You guys are awful at prompting.
>>580516514>Who the fuck thinks platformers are viableMe...
>>580517130not the kind of scissoring I'm usually interested in but looks okay
>>580516823Turn based CRPGs with super heavily cinematic moviegame type RPG portionsBG3, E33, maybe dawnwalker etc.You could probably solo dev one if you asset flipped or AI’d everything but the characters (e33 did this and didn’t hide it well for anyone paying attention).If that’s too much work, storyless friendslop will always be viable
>>580517130yeah. it's good
>>580517130Looks good but I would close the loop on the top handle.
>>580517005Maybe the secret is that slop is shit when it comes out but ages like wine?
>>580516514Play more games
>>580517130Cute. I'm jealous of pixel artists.
>>580517518Name one post-braid platformer where the core audience voluntarily bought the game for themselves. Nintendo games are bought by parents so they are all disqualified.
>>580517197>>580517261>>580517527Glad it looks alright. Will spend tomorrow making it look okay as a sword attack.>>580517430It's a stylistic choice. Want it to have a single handle.
>>580517631No one is making modern Nintendo style platformers on PC anyway, would be too much of a huge undertaking.I think platformers can work if it's an element of the game but it has other gameplay to it besides that.
>>580517631Its in the image but alright couple I liked recently:Pizza TowerAnton BlastMetroidvanias with platforming if you count that I liked Nine sols/Hollow KnightDon't you like playing games?
>>580517631inb4 massive cope and "that doesn't count'
>>580518075>Don't you like playing games?Eww no. It's like asking a kingpin if he likes shooting up.
>>580518129That game sold for the highly stylized great animations and style, not for the genre it's in.
>>580518271Exactly. Animations and style are all that matters, genres are irrelevant.
>>580518271it sold on pandering to speedrunners and zoomers with stolen wario land 4 gameplay lol
>>580518184NGMIDevs who don't play games are usually useless when it comes to development.
>>580518075>>580518129>literally what>literally what>a game that’s closer to a soulslike than a platformer
>>580517005I mean that it may look like slop at first, but in reality it is full of soul and heart and like the other anon has said, aged like fine wine in an age of regression.
>>580518601Genuinely n(never)gmi
>>580518593If you think about this for more than 2 seconds you quickly realize it's bullshit.
>>580518593I agree fully
>>580518540There's only like five speedrunners, they don't make up much of the market. Yes to zoomers though, they saw 90s animation style and bought.
>>580518834I have worked with many devs who do not play games and they are typically useless on creating new mechanics or thinking about what feels good when playing a game and how to design that.Not saying you can't make it in the industry but they only make it as wagies for a company where someone else is thinking of the design decisions.
>>580483408Welp, Did a two position camera like Fallout: New Vegas even has (F) for change camera position.
>>580518736Says the person making a PLATFORMER in current year lmfao, I’ll take that as the high praise it is.
>>580519191There are no new mechanics. You are romanticizing the industry which is common among indies.
Friendly reminder that Pizza Tower contains more animation frames than every /agdg/ release and DD game over the last few years COMBINED. Exceptions are not the rule. You are not making an exceptional game.
>>580519396I mean adding new mechanics to a game they are working on. New to their project, not a new invention.
>>580519401>okay they do sell, but only if you put effort into them(´◡`)
>your game is trash if you are inspired by games>your game is trash if you don't play video gamesWell, which is it?
>need to initially have general distance fog for important story reasons and a big reveal when the PC gets rid of it around the end of the first half>the term “anti-soul fog” gets coinedSo do I scrap the entire mechanic or no
now that gamedev is solved, what hobby should we do next
>>580519401my game has more lines of code than every agdg and DD game over the last few years combined. Dont you dare say I'm not exceptional.
>>580519368Nobody said they are making a platformer schizo tard...
>>580519561You can be inspired by games, outside influences, and play games for ideas.
>>580517130uuhhh your scissors are broken yo
>>580519561Ages 0-20 read booksAges 20-30 play gamesYou are now ready to make a good game.
>>580519539Also friendly reminder that more than one anon participate in this thread.
>>580519401>You are not making an exceptional game.I am, though.
>>580519716and then these same people will ask>how do i make my game fun???>how do i design levels???>what mechanics should i add???
>>580519627>I was only pretending to be making a platformer!
>>580519598hobbies are for rich peoplepoors need to monetize every minute of their time
Is it even possible to have surfaces with interactions without getting compared to Larian anymore?
valheim looks like it's entirely vibecoded
>>580519561Your game should be inspired by games but other fields and reality itself are good resources for ideas too
I do it for the nookie. We are not the same.
>>580519952Open wide for your medication say aaaa
>>580520093Yeah, the only Larian game I've played is Divine Divinity so if you can get me to play your game I will not compare it to Larian since chances are your game is nothing like Divine Divintiy
>>580520110What makes you say that? I haven't played it lately.
>>580520446It definitely isn’t
>>580520569the UI, the inventory sprites, the terrain/environment models, all have this very aisloppy feeling, like it's really low quality and generic for a multi trillion dollar game
I am doing a vampire-suvivors flavoured game, and I am thinking about balancing right now. It is really rough to think about balance on pure logic, normally I am more of a "play and see if it's fun" type of guy. However, the more variables and game content you have, the harder it is to just go by feeling.How do you guys normally deal with balancing in your games?
Why doesn't someone slopcode a Haunted Chocolatier knockoff?
>>580520674It's made by a tiny studio of like 5 people retard
>>580520770a horde survival slop game does not need balance, it needs FUN interactions and OP weaponsask Claude or Astra to write some balancing benchmark script if you really care about it to run sims for all weapon/evo combinations if you really care
>>580512320Mobile makes money by investing in marketing to bring in normoids who spend their money like the retards they are.
>>580520674They probably did slop it together, lots of pressure to finish the game and I heard they crapped out lately. I haven't bothered to play since the first launch since I figured it would just be more of the same.
>>580520827It wouldn't have the Eric Magic™ and would only be marketing for HC.
>>580520770I have hundreds of playtesters so I add telemetry and analyze the data.
>>580520770Work backwards. Design what you feel like should be the end state (i.e. come up with ideal synergies first) and then fill in the path to lead the player into reaching that end state.
>>580513124>whatever slop you pour in front of them they will consumeAs long as there is someone telling to consume it. That's why ecelebs are so strong in current year. They decide what the normies spend their time and money on.
>>580520861It's an AAA budget game.
>>580520827People are making creepy farming sims if that counts. Welcome to Elderfield came out today, plus that one farming sim coming where one of the random villagers is a murderer and you have to catch them before they murder all the NPCs.
>>580519598Loli portraits
>>580521071retard
>>580513187To bring people together you need a people person but also you need someone with vision. The team needs to believe in that dude's vision in order to put their full effort into the project. Ideally your guy with the vision is also the project manager people person. Splitting them into two makes the thing a whole lot more complex as the people person needs to find the guy with the vision and then sell him to others for them to join the team.
>>580520827Because the only interesting thing about it is that it's coming from the creator of stardew valley
i dont dig this threads vibe, its mostly just passive aggressive tryhards who attack everybody who doesnt try as hard as them, while ironically they are nodevs.
>>580521437Shut up whore
>>580520861Might wanna recheck those credits, they have like 20 main employees now directly working on the game. Plus a million contractors doing translations, people doing publishing, etc.
>>580521548bye
>>580521437Fuck you
>>580521437Go be wholesome on leddit or bluesky if you need positive attention.
Why do publishers reach out but then ghost you after their own proposal?
>>580521565>can afford a fucking clarinet player>can't afford an extra artist to not make the game look like shit
>>580521437I'm not a passive aggressive and I don't attack people who don't try as hard as me otherwise I'd be really really tired of attacking everyone all the time since I try the hardestest!
>>580513732Explain how your game is inspired by things other than other video games.>>580516262I haven't watched this anime but from a quick look you could make sort of a Warframe Archwing mode type game from this. >custom anime girl creation>a selection of flyers with different stats and abilities>a selection of cool weapons>maybe carry like two weapons at once so you can swap mid-mission>some sort of further customization of the loadout>various mission types>lootAnime girls attract gooners and loot attracts other types of degenerate gamers.
Me? Heheheh! I'm the joker baby!
>>580520770Write a program that mashes all possible valid actions together completely at random and analyze the win patterns.
I am making my N64-Adjacent looking game and it is going to make people emotional with how chunkykino it is and how much it speaks to the heart.
>>580521437The time they waste being crabs in the thread could be spent making their game better.
What are the biggest reasons for NGMI?
>>580524052People don't want to put in effort
>>580524052>Lack of discipline>Terrible tastes (in design, art, etc.)>AI usage too obvious (unless the market changes where gamers are okay with it)
>>580524052>being lazy>being a schizo>being overly driven by money and not passion>being addicted to anything that is not gamedev, ie porn, 4chan, gaming>being an artlet and not pushing yourself to improve>being a vibecoder that doesn't understand your codebaselaziness is the root source of all these evils though, that is why sloth is considered one of the seven deadly sins
>>580524052All time spend on world building or a design doc instead of working on the actual gameEnjoy thinking about it more than doing it
>>580524052game bad
>>580524603I am a vibecoder who doesn't understand my codebase, is it that bad? Should I ask the AI to teach me how to understand it?I am an artist and programming just seems to go over my head no matter how much I try. I am hoping that by the time my game comes out, the AI will be so good that it won't matter that much code wise.
>>580485749>>580485803What makes something 1 bit, 8 bit, or X bit?
>>580524052not getting lucky>>580524228>>580524357>>580524603>>580524679>>580524867meritcopers
>>580525602how many bits are needed to represent one pixel on screen.if it's just one color, that's 1 bit needed per pixelif it's up to 256 colors, it's 8 bits (2^8)
>>580523815that's great cris
>>580485985So few pixels....yet so well designed...anon is talented>>580490072What's the yellow stuffs flavor?>>580497776Second one assuming I can't use the fanbase from option 1 to sell a new game
>>580524052pure ass laziness>>580524603based and correct
>>58052588316-bit is more about the CPU/memory architecture than how the game looks, but when 16-bit consoles and PCs were the norm, games looked a certain way so I guess that's what they mean by 16-bit looking game even though it's 64k colors
>>580498092He added a stipulation this time. I think that stipulation prevents you from getting easy money ie>get 1m players>announce new game to sais fanbase>get rich off new gameThough if that is not forbidden then I change my answer in >>580526063 to the first option and then release a new game down the line for way greater return than the second option.
>>580526063>>580526295see >>580498401
>>580525883How is it 1 bit in games that use 2 colors ie 1 color + white or black that gets treated like some sort of default/canvas
>>580526495on monochrome displays a pixel on the screen can either be lit up or not. if it's lit up, the bit is 1 otherwise it's 0
>>580526105What's the 16 bit look? And what exactly forced/limited games to look like this?
i cant think of a more untapped niche game mechanic than botting in mmorpgs.idle games are not a solution cause looking at a 2D screen with abstract graphics isn't the same at all.leaving your character grinding all night and looking into your inventory in the morning if a rare weapon dropped is just very satisfying.melvor idle feels completely pointless.yeah incremental is about numbers going up, but not about "literally" watching a number go p.
>>580525602>>580526105>>580526495I didn't follow the whole convo, but a lot of the responses seem to be wrong, so to clear things up, the "bit" here typically refers to the color depth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depthPalettes are further limited to a specific number of colors. For example, the iconic PC-98 style is the result of a limit of a 16 color palette (or 4-bits for selection from a fixed palette) within a range of 4096 possible colors (or 12-bit color depth).You can browse https://lospec.com/palette-list and search for palettes tagged with a specific color depth to see examples.
>>580526802this is the best idea I've seen in this shithole wtf
>>580526670just the limitations of the hardware at the time like CPU speeds and RAM quantity and storage capacity. many games in those period had less than 256 colors so when someone says a 16-bit looking game, it's shorthand for late early-mid 90s fidelity, not the number of colors
>>580526802fuck you mean a niche? mmo botting has been big for the past 2 decadesunless you literally mean MAKE AN MMO THEN MAKE A BUILT-IN BOTthen yeah private mmo servers are doing it and indeed it brings in a lot of money but it's not that niche of an idea
>>5805269831-bit = 1 color8-bits = 256 colors16-bits = 2 bytes = 65536 colors32-bits = 4 bytes = 16777216 colors * 256 alpha values
>>580526395Still worth it, that huge amount if fanbase can be capitalized. As he put it in here >>580497776 I'm only getting 25k woth the second option. That's less than what I'd make taking a low paying job for a year.>>580514232I still don't know which game this is, name?
>>580527534if fanbase could be capitalized for more than $25k, why did the paid version earn you only $25k?
>>580527019people who aren't gold-sellers only bot to skip grinds on accounts they care about to do fun things.Botting without this end-goal leaves the idea without a foundation lol
>>580514232Nvm, found it. Lol I didn't recognize it until I saw the thumbnail and thought about it for a bit. Could've used a gameplay view pic instead of staring straight up....at night...in what looks to be a densely forested area lmao.
>>580527831there has to be a way to make an idle game from the concept though
>>580528041or you can just not make the High Fructose Corn Syrup of indie games.
>>580527506Congrats on being a dunning kruger first year CS student retard. Styles aren't based on theoretical numbers and generally have nothing to do with the CPU bus width. They're based on hardware limitations of actual old systems.
>>580528206>or you can just not make the High Fructose Corn Syrup of indie games.that ship has sailed
gamercunts are a plague
>>580527734Quality may have simply not been good enough. I've seen enough games get growing and growing fanbases as the newer games continue to go up in quality/create fans who speak well of you. The first option at least gets me a bigger audience for newer games. That and 25k isn't all that much.
>>580527506>1-bit = 1 color2 colors 2^8 is 256
>>580528234>calling me a retard but can't readthe question was about graphics. what do you think the number 32 in 32-bit graphics represents? it's not that complicated
>>580528398No, there's 1 color. There's either a color or no color. Lack of color does not represent a color.
>>580528535You're completely clueless. Your problem is that you think these terms are technical, when they're not really. They're kinda just made up by feel by other retarded internet amateur gamedevs.>>580528836Holy fucking retard lmao
>>580502992Didn't get it to work, but at least got the sprite to face the camera. God bless you, anon!
>>580528398>>1-bit = 1 color>2 colors monochrome displays have 1 color. what do you think the word mono means?
I just need more time...
>>580528836anon, you don't have to succumb to the devil's most banal method of (You)s, you can aspire to obtain them with actual depth in your words.
>>580529025I used to believe in bait. Nowadays, I mostly believe in profound mental retardation.
>>580521740They're fishing with a big net, if they catch a bigger fish they let the small ones go
I can't prove it, but I know eric is using AI coding tools for Haunted Chocolatier. Explains why he's claiming to have made massive progress recently.
>>580483408>>580055286https://pastebin.com/AEMASbXRThat one is the script for generating the images from a json database.There were some other scripts to automate the process but they're almost useless as I found out.To bring back the recap, you need to manually gather all the recap posts. You only need the image script and the database and the progress media (images or videos). Can you all remember to gather all the posts (for the past week) and generate the image?You need these assets to be in the same directory as the script.https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Exo ("Exo-Regular.ttf")https://files.catbox.moe/6tovox.svg ("agdg logo.png")I never never made a bot that was constantly scraping things. If you want a website that automatically updates stuff you have to make it yourself.
>>580529020Arisu, it's too late this week 1000 games will release, it is accelerating. By the time your game releases? A stable 50,000 games will release per week. It's over.
>>580529020We don't have time.
>>580529128Turns out you were the retard all along
>>580529025>>580529128how is one bit going to describe even one color? it can't, there' is not enough information in a single bit to describe any color. it can only describe an on-state and an off-state. if your head canon is that on-state means white and off-state means black that's fine, but that information is not contained within a bit because it can't be.
>>580529854vec4f(parse_bit(the_bit))
>>580529785retard
>>580528836you haven't heard of pixels that glow black? it's the newest thing
>Post game on twitter>Game immediately stolen by AI prompters from a single screenshotSuch is life in the AI age as an indie dev.
>>580532235>small game niggers btfod
>>580532235timmydevs lost lmaoif you want something just take itim raping my way to the top!
just make your game multi-scene and sloppers can't snipe it
>weeks of work and all I have to show is some buttons and text*internal screaming*Why is every step slow and painful?
>>580505545what does this even mean?
My game is going to be so good. I think about it and I get chills.
>>580533714>breed
>>580535161*My game IS so good.
>>580532987what does this even mean?
Morrowind meets Minecwaf.
>>580535478LLMemes struggle with maintaining coherent state across multiple scenes, which is why all the "1-Shot" demo porn are overwhelmingly a single large scene.
>>580485548Looks cool, but I don't fully understand what's going on on the screen.
>>580535960... have you even used AI once?
>>580536056Not saying it couldn't technically do it, i'm just saying the quality and coherence exponentially degrade, which is why all the demo porn, again, are single-scene.
>>580536194Correct
>>580536194notice how you didn't answer the question, kek
>>580536604notice how you can't provide an example to refute my claim lol
>>580536194what you're talking about is video generation. coding doesn't suffer from the same problem,
>>580536747The context coherence principle applies regardless of domain because it's inherent to LLMemes themselves.
>>580536887"hey, chatgipiti, please check the previous scene code before starting to work on this next scene" - decel cucks in shambles
imagine in any other domain where you act like you are the smartest person in the room for not using a tool
>>580535375yes, that gives you a chance of like 20% of impregnating your spouse or mistress
>>580537084feel free to provide an actual example instead of seething :)
>>580532235they're raping him nowhttps://x.com/pk_duc/status/2097112189991829692
>>580537258>my life is emptykeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
Me and ChatGPT are getting to work. I imagine me and ChatGPT looking over a construction site right now. We both of blueprints in our hands with cups of cobbee.I'm imagining this in chunky N64 style Graphics.
>>580537258>my life is empty so I can definitely go at this for months if not yearsKek
>>580537092You mean in movies, where directors purposely choose legacy film?Or do you mean music, where they purposely buy and use legacy hardware?Do you mean outside of art like banks, that still use COBOL?
In my Game, at the edge of the world there may be a Salty Tavern near a dock where two anthromorphic crab people are having a drink and telling the player not to take a boat over the world's edge.In Chunky N64 Style Graphics.My Game is going to make people extremely emotional.
>>580536747The main weakness of ai for the longest time has been context windows so that is just a dumb statement if nothing elseYes it has gotten much better at it too (MORE TOKENS)
>>580537205ehh I agree that there is not a single game right now that is actually a proper game, but it's not because of context, but because it still takes a long time and a lot of effort to develop something of quality and typical AI shills will not do that
>>580536887except code tends to be modular and AI doesn't have to work on full context when generating it. how else could I have 20k of AI generated lines in my game with free Claude?
>>580537783I'm doing it myself, although AI is only handling the code. Art by me.
>>580537782you don't understand how code is written vs how a video is generated. besides, results speak for themselves
>>580537896Why wouldn't AI have the full context? Keep all coding in one chat, it has a memory. You can plan out your entire game with the AI and then start the project, keeps the AI on track.
>>580532235My prediction for accelerating game releases - CheckMy prediction for cloners becoming more common - CheckWhodev sisters we won. Though now I fear even a 6 month gap is too large. This cloner cloned it in such a fast manner that I need the gap between reveal and release to be as tiny as possible.>mfw when both predictions result in a scenario where unique ideas may be stumbled upon by randoms but also revealing the game early just to be first will risk cloners copying itAieeeeeeee!!!
>>580538060I think you are genuinely too dumb to have worked on a large codebase in the past to be honestYou don't need to have an opinion on everything
>>580538087Valve are gonna start ban-hammering jeet snipers, because it's a lawsuit vector.
>>580538193The cope keeps getting more and more absurd.
>>580538207good idea
>>580532235Saw that game earlier, it looks really good too. Prompters cannot create.
>>580538161I think you're genuinely too dumb to understand how videos are generated vs how code is written. that's okay, you're just a consumer
>>580538318it just takes one disgruntled dev to open the floodgates, the last thing any company wants is a class-action
>>580538207Good idea. Id delete this post of I were you. I dont share ideas like this since I already have several that will get so much easy marketing attention. And as recently proven redditors do browse this site and run back to tell reddit about this place.
>>580538193They've never done it before and people rip off shit all the time on Steam. It only gets caught if your game is big enough to be seen.
>>580538645>starving gamedev autuer has money to sueKek
>>580538207make sure to make and run account for a year at least
>>580538207don't worry anon, i'll save this post for you.
>>580538595You don't even write code retard please stop saying nonsense....Ai couldn't handle 100s of thousands of lines of code I don't know why you're offended by that shortcoming it had, its not a sleight against you to say this
I'm trying to think up examples of games where weapons are divided into kit buckets, where some have guard and some have other options.For example, MH.It's because I want my combat system to do something similar. alt-movesets.I don't want to have torso/per arm blending, and I also don't want stuff like estocs to be able to block 500 gigaton swords.
>>580537381>>580537601I looked like this and did thisI took some youtube channels down in 2024, months later I found aggydaggyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlyuCzZc4E
>>580539061>Ai couldn't handle 100s of thousands of lines of codeIt doesn't have to, that's not how it works, you're just clueless. Stop embarrassing yourself
>>580539147Kek my point is this is entirely likely I wasnt say it wasnt. A part of the reason I am a whodev both here and on social media albeit on social media it is nearly 100% strictly business. Pretty hard to ruin me when there's almost no angle to attack me from.
Rate my game
>>580538970No way to know who that is anyway, how is some Redditor going to connect the dots lol
>>580539061A human can't handle 100s of thousands of line of code either but can still work on a codebase that big. It's like you don't understand what context means
>>580483408I know i cant make my dream game, so im not gonna try. But what are the most profitable genres to do?should i just try friendslop?i dont want to make it but it isnt about me, i would need money to even want to pursue my dream game.i dont know what to dowhere does my work end and AI begin?what do you guys do in that regard?
>>580539278fork'ing off agents into modules just defers the problem and creates more. That's why sloppers now have management loops for their manager managers. They're just recreating a worse version of the worst real-life development practices lol
>>580539395they hated him because he was based
>>580538970jews do this all the time and it works every time btw
>>580539278As I said you are a drooling retard that's never been near a big codebase and doesn't know anything so why do you have an opinion?Yes the context window did get too large and is even now extremely expensive, you would see it tweak even if you massively shrunk that number which you denied because "muh video"To you 20k lines is a big codebase and its just not. You are too dumb for this conversation
>>580539508That's what I figured as well. My dream game would take YEARS to make and I cannot possibly justify spending that much time on it while I could be taking extra shifts to make money or something so what I'm going to do instead I'm going to use AI and go full vibecode on popular genres.Friendslop is good but it's like you need a streamer to randomly find it and play it and make it viral, most friendslops don't make it, you'd have to print out a different friendslop every other week and hope one of them takes. Incrementa/sidle are also big but Steam is getting flooded with 100s of these vibecoded every week.
>>580539596yeah, but they also use literal IRL black magick that the useless eaters don't have.
>>580538970Reeeee delete it anon!
>>580539596daily unprompted mention of dajuz award
>>580539656>backtracking>qualifying>hedging>moving goalpostsYou got dominated and all you can do is screech>you're dumb!!1Pathetic
>>580539395I'm a multimillion $ corporation and here is my game :))
>>580483408quick progress post, side hair, ahoges, new dresses and also changed the third person camera to use field of view instead of movement to zoom in and out to look nicer
>>580539760literal migger cattle
>>580539828Nice meltie retard try again addressing a single point lmfaoOr just screech about how you are an expert in nothing to the void since you aren't doing much anyway
>>580539885is she single?
>>580539974>screechYou used the word I used. You know why? Because you're in my frame, because I dominated you so completely.
>>580540350You still haven't managed to talk about the actual topic at all because you're in the middle of a meltie againMaybe you're a cuck that larps being a dev and worships it as a talking point? Kind of flattering you would kneel so brazenly for us anon...
>>580540350holy cringe
>>580540350so cool
>>580540350bodied that freak
>>580540350>
>>580540350Truthnuked that queer
>>580540350FUCKING KEK, some of you niqqas peaked in middle school
>it worksI might be able to finish this in time after all.
You guys keep giving me shit for using AI code but it is thanks to AI that I'm starting to understand how to code. I'm reading the outputs it gives me and I'm starting to get a grasp on how things are done. Plus it actually works as well. Like, stop giving me shit, guys. It's the best I can do.
>>580542589Because they are stupid, that's why. And jealous.
Still waiting for the cuck to explain how code has 0 context since he melted over itI honestly did not read the gay greentext crying
>reading, books:( •_•)>reading, "AI": (^v^)
>>580526802Not that uncommon a theme for incrementals. In the past, I wanted to make one for Tibia. Also, CrossCode really would be awesome to make a bot-like version like that. But it takes too much work for incremental games.
>>580542589nice man learn and improve I believe in you
>>580538207That and vagueposting are a good way to advertise. Basically pretend like you've been attacked then retort as if your drumming up drama, essentially falseflagging for attentuon. I've seen meta advertising posts phrased like "Who said modern game couldn't have X" (insert your game here) or "They said I that my game would fail, but here I am X later with Y wishlist"
>>580542589That's good but don't assume that the way the AI does it is always the best one. AI is trained on midwit code. You have to surpass it eventually
Made a cool gunblade today
>>580543394False
>>580533714I think game development is an exponential curve. It is very slow in the beginning, but as the game develops, it becomes easier for content and visual juice to be added.
>>580542589I'm not anti-ai and I think its possible to learn that way, but you should be careful with the impression of learning using AI might give you. There is only one way to test if you are learning or not: doing it by yourself.
>>580540350ratio
>>580543394nigga you're not writing enterprise or banking software it's just a fucking game. if the code "good enough" with no bugs and performance issues then it doesn't matter
>>580540350no balls pussy
>>580543725>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with no bugs and performance issues
>>580543954yeah retard get fucked
>>580543954you never used ai before
>>580360736Of course they get the opportunity not some guy like me who's unemployed and hoping my game makes it to save me from this likely terrible fate of waging into old age for low income despite the degree.Give me a 6 figure salary for 2 years straight and I'm confident it's boost my morale and accelerate development knowing I don't have to find a job for 2 years.
>>580544006>>580544056>i told grok to program perfectly so i don't have to worry about issues wwwwww
>>580542501studying for your exams when?
>>580542589That is the correct way to do itStart with small contexts and just ask line by line to get a feel for it if something really confuses youMaybe one day all these skills will be useless but it feels good to know things works and why
>>580544096you're a pissant baby
>>580544163>seething and name-callingWWWWWWWWWWWWW
How was this general before the AI boom? Did it had more meaninful discussions and such?
>>580543116yes, it's like a book you can talk to.
>>580544135I will do a quick study session tomorrow morning.
>>580544256There was never any shortage of things to seethe about.
>>580543545I hope so.My problem is I keep giving up and restarting before getting going because I keep thinking:>wtf? this isn't ever going to be fun, why am I'm bothering?
>>580544163Just say you usually prefer to watch bro its 2026
>>580544075Well seems like the first guy to be doing something I've mentioned before on here, wonder if he lurks here and stole my idea>be me>fantasy>i get rich>start funding aggy daggy games with a 10% royalty>each game, based off multiple factors gets different funding>sit back and watch as /agdg/ rises and my frens (trve frens) are saved from the wagecage
>Unreal Engine>Unity>Godot
>>580545520>>580544227samefag btw
>Kitbash 4D
>>580545961A game where you have to use tools from various time periods?CBK (Could Be Kino)
>>580545853Was your attention being spent on your bvll? JEJ
>>580545808>he's backWhat's so great about Defold, anyway?
>>580546145inspect element
>>580483714CRIS IS FUARKING WINNING AGAIN
>>580545853>>580546194i color-code my posts and (You)s desu
>>580545802Where's the guy that wants to airlift Cris from the Colombian jungle and plop him into a first world office with a team to make Cris' game?
>>580546335The fact that this has not happened yet shows that no real /agdg/ devs have made it
i just want to make cool looking characters and environments but making random characters and environments that have no story or context or reason to exist feels stupid. but i can't come up with any interesting story or game that doesn't feel monumentally retarded and cringe
>>580546194Would you like to watch me post just be sure? KEK
>>580546621this is what AI should be used for
>>580546621Try writing a story in your head and picture the cool protag
>>580546621>i just want tono you don't
>>580546858ai can't make good or interesting stories
>>580546621most stories are really dumb when you think about it.The most celebrated (greek) myths are absurd soap-operas and sitcoms
>>580546621Me and ChatGPT came up with this one but I'll let you have it>“THE QUIET HOURS” — A Survival Mystery Without the Usual Stupid TropesCore idea: Every night at exactly 02:13, the world enters The Quiet Hours—a 47‑minute period where all sound disappears. Not muted. Not dampened. Gone. People don’t sleep during it. They don’t dream. They simply wait.
>>580547025yes i do. my job is character artist at a game studio. i'm good at it. but i don't know what to do for my own game>>580547165made me laugh out loud, thats funny. i love how confident jippity is when pitching awful ideas
>>580547139gonna have to word this, its all mentall retarded cringe>>580547336its the persona 3 story broseph
The Quiet Hours aren’t supernatural or alien—they’re a physics event caused by a catastrophic failure in a global quantum‑communication network. The network didn’t collapse; it folded, creating pockets of spacetime where vibration cannot propagate.Inside those pockets, something else can propagate.Patterns.Not creatures. Not ghosts. Instructions.The disappearances aren’t abductions—they’re executions of a protocol. People are being reorganized at the atomic level into structures that serve an unknown function.
>>580547492>The network didn’t collapse; it folded, creating pockets of spacetime where vibration cannot propagate.it'd make more sense if there's just random invisible pockets that annihilate everything in contact at the atomic level.
>>580547404Damn, i guess you're right. Maybe i just have to accept that it's cringe and do it anyway
I'm trying to think up examples of games where weapons are divided into kit buckets, where some have guard and some have other options.For example, MH.It's because I want my combat system to do something similar. alt-movesets.
>>580546621You don't need to worry about it that much, video game writing is awful and everyone's stories suck. If you can just string together an okay story, you'll be doing better than basically every other game dev.
But if even good stories sound cringe when you think about them, how are you supposed to know if the story you're writing is good or bad?
dude what the fuck, who trained the LLM's on r/4chan?
>>580547854you're not writing a story, you're making a game
>>580547854stories can't be judged wholly on their tagline or summary. It's good if you get enthralled or excited when writing/reading it and nothing else matters.
>>580542589>It's the best I can do.I'm sorry that you're having to hear this only now, but your best may not be good enough. Your coddled feminine school system has failed to prepare you for the harshness of reality.
>>580548001fucking kek
>tell fable@high to review my 25 page design document for a game idea>nigger absolutely btfos mealright cool
>>580543407neat
>>580547492P-p-p-PROTOCOL!?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4594150/Sir_We_Have_an_Orc_Problem/https://store.steampowered.com/app/5121720/Bugs_Billions_of_Bugs/lol
>>580544256yeah
>>580548238>talks about harshness of reality>born as a whiteoid in a first world countryit's all about luck
>>580548824look at the slopper's previous games. flop flop flop flop
>>580548961I'm sorry that you lost the gamedev lottery the moment you were born. Considered rerolling.
>>580549237Is that Roblox?
ABOUT TO FUCKING UNLEASH THIS CUNT
>>580549735LETS ROCK BABY
notice how ainiggaz never post proggy
>>580550351>release a game>don't add AI disclaimer>some autist finds it in /aggy/ archive>game ruinedyeah fuck off nigger
>>580550351the concept of progress posting is archaic we've already been over this
https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-8-dev-5/
>>580550351I'm hiding mine until it's near competition and ready for testing and I'm not going to mention that I used AI.
>>580545808I use cocos!
>>580550351I'm hiding mine until it's near competition and ready for testing so it doesn't get stolen by AI.
>>580550675holy shit they fixed EVERYTHING!
>>580546171Lua.
GPT-6 is getting absolutely hammered right now with requests.
>>580550675Godot devs should ask OpenAI for free Astra credits and let it sort through the issue tracker and pull requests and just polish this turd of an engine.
>>580548824That is the incremental genre for ya. First time?
>>580550675they keep adding a bunch of bloatware to 3d godot and nothing to 2d godot
>>580543116What's your favorite book? (・∀・)?
>>580548001it made me kek
>>580551674Currently don't have one, but Camus would probably be my current favorite writer. ヽ(•‿•)ノ
>>580548001wow you sure seem to be having fun with the antichrist!
>>580503652Tekken has many trance tracks and some dnb as well. The Nikke OST is similar.
>>580549506its not a robot its monkey man
>>580549506I've been really into roblox r34 lately.
>YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! HECKIN GODOT VIDEO GAME ENGINE ENGINE JUST ADDED NEW COLORS OF PIXELS TO MAKE OUR RETRO BAIT JAPANESE CARTOON INSPIRED PIXELSLOP RPG GAMES WITH!!!! WE ARE SO BACK!! SUGOI TERIYAKI TOYOTA YIPEEEEEE!
>recreates godot with one Fable promptheh, nothin personnel blue haired kid
>>580551205They took an anti-AI stance for some retarded reason like Blender.
>You are absolutely right, i did forget to delete the Godot Logo!
>>580551892(*´ω`*) I haven't got to Camus yet. I've been reading a lot of Goffman and McLuhan
>>580552390Didn't Blender accept a big donation from one of the AI companies to keep the Blender MCP to let AIs hackerman into Blender process and make models? Or is the police just no AI code in the code base? Either way, seems kind of dumb to do that, I guess they just don't want people to boycott the engine but truthfully you could accelerate both of these pieces of software so much if you let Fable or Astra take care of all the low hanging fruit issues that there are hundreds if not thousands of that humans just can't keep up with.
>>580552216you are corrupting our youth.
what in the autism
not much progress today, but i made sure the road is fully drivable, and changed the camera to a more conventional setup. the road already exposed some physics issues so i'll be tweaking things as i come across themnext is timing and scoring, but a little bit of code jannying and planning need to take place before i tackle that
>>580552630They did and then blender got scared or something and rejected the donation after people complained. Maybe there is some new development though.
(~‾▿‾)~ what's with the funky faces?
( ̄︿ ̄) wouldn't you like to know, gamedev boy?
( ノ・・)ノ 「GAME DEV」\(゚ ー゚\)
ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ made progress today, nyaa~
You now remember the>Godot 4.0 will fix thatmeme
___*(  ̄皿 ̄)/#____
( ‿ )ლ this reminds me of something
>>580554925>Godot 4.0 will fix thatThose were the times.
>>580554925Planescapeschizo? I love Planescape Torment, probably my favorite game. Was it someone who wanted to remake PST or make a spiritual successor or something? Because Torment Tides of Numenera already was.
>>580554925thank fuck i dont post nearly enough to be a lolcow
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4739660/Why are white women like this?
>>580555883i clicked on this now steam is gonna think stuff about me
(・∀・) being a lolcow isn't that bad desu
>>580556179nobody ever remembers lolcow #453history is written only by the most perverse and deranged
What is demoday?
>>580556514a once great tradition that has become corrupted with whodevs(´_`)
>>580556514Post ur game demo and get feedback from other nerds
>>580556514it's where you submit your game and if people say it's shit it will become a viral hit and if people say it's good it will flop
>>580556514It's a /agdg/ tradition where (you) submit your game to itchio to get it stolen by Chinese or Indian AI chads.
>>580556435Yeah most lolcows just come and go and then they're forgotten
>>580557082sometimes i go back and delete my demo because im paranoidjust letting you know that you won this round
If I apply the damage after the projectile animation finishes and the entity dies, I will have to deal with what happens with remaining already inflight projectiles after the creature is dead. If apply before, I will have to deal with timing of animations (last bullet flight + any other entity death after effects).In general, how do anons go about it?
>>580533714>breed conquer marry divorceyou're making a sequel to fuck marry kill?
>>580558507I mean it depends if you want them to finish playing but not deal damage or despawn, either do a sweep over projectiles and if owner.dead then despawn, or on impact check if owner.dead to not register the hitit's more a game design choice than a technical one, depends on how you want your game to work/look
>>580558507Each projectile should deal with itself. Once it reaches the target, check to see if the target is still valid. If so, apply damage and any on-hit animations. If not, just free itself.
i added too much to my game and it will confuse the goyim
I can't decide if I should go medieval fantasy or cyberpunkVoicing this makes me realize how createvely bankrupt I am. I might need to go dumpster diving into obscure PS1/PS2 games to get inspiration
>>580559815Look up all the different "-punk" styles and pick one of the other ones if you want something more obscure. Medieval fantasy and cyberpunk are pretty common.
Goddamn I finally figured out how to get inspiration. Instead of looking at shit and trying to think of something that will be popular or good I just look for what I would personally want to play or see in a game. It sounds obvious but I really didn't think that way before. I looked through my whole inspiration folder and realized I have a ton of shit I don't actually want to see or play myself, and to find tons of other new stuff I do actually like but didn't want to admit it
>>580546621stop calling things cringe and do what your heart wants to do.
This is starting to look great.
I really like ASCII gaems.I created a little project using C and raylib (cool library btw).The characters are moving to the right.Actually, the code is really short, here it is:(I hope [code] works here)[code]#include "raylib.h"#define CHARW 9#define CHARH 12#define SECOND 30 // 60 -> 1 second#define MOVMNT_PER_SEC (CHARW * (((time == SECOND) ? (time = 0) : (++time)) / SECOND))typedef struct { Color color; Vector2 pos; Rectangle atlas;} enemy_t;int main(void) { InitWindow(640, 480, "GAME"); // variables Texture2D atlas = LoadTexture("atlas.png"); // player enemy_t enemy_arr[49] = {0}; for (int i = 0; i < 37; ++i) { enemy_arr[i].atlas.width = CHARW; enemy_arr[i].atlas.height = CHARH; enemy_arr[i].atlas.x = GetRandomValue(0, 5)*9; enemy_arr[i].atlas.y = GetRandomValue(0, 1)*12; enemy_arr[i].pos.y+=13*i; enemy_arr[i].color.r = GetRandomValue(1, 255); enemy_arr[i].color.g = GetRandomValue(1, 255); enemy_arr[i].color.b = GetRandomValue(1, 255); enemy_arr[i].color.a = 255; } unsigned char time = 0; SetTargetFPS(60); while(!WindowShouldClose()) { for (int i = 0; i < 37; ++i) { enemy_arr[i].pos.x += MOVMNT_PER_SEC; enemy_arr[i].pos.y += MOVMNT_PER_SEC; } BeginDrawing(); ClearBackground(BLACK); for (int i = 0; i < 37; ++i) DrawTextureRec(atlas, enemy_arr[i].atlas, enemy_arr[i].pos, enemy_arr[i].color); EndDrawing(); } UnloadTexture(atlas); CloseWindow(); return 0;}[/code]
>>580561821I remember doing this kind of stuff in middle school on my TI-83. You must be 18 years or older to post on 4chan.
>>580561703>goy destroyer
>>580561960>I remember doing this kind of stuffPics or didn't happen
>>580555060( ´∀`))д`) STOP POSTING AND START DEVELOPING
>>580561016I'm glad you discovered this anon.
>>580561703edu game like this should have a softer name, no? I mean you are the expert on these matters so I don't want to question
>>580561016>I just look for what I would personally want to play or see in a game.That's the spirit of an indie dev
Done a lot of work on my game engine's editor UI today. This is what I thought game creation tools looked like when I was 10, and 10 year old me should be in charge of everything .
>>580562280Too bad my TI-83 got stolen by some nigger in high school.
>>580562684Damn, that looks really good.How did you make the game engine's editor UI?
>>580562684This is how I imagined level editors for shit like early Unreal Tournament to look like too.
>>580562684looks mighty workableI could get some shit done
>>580562465ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ OKAY OKAY CHRIST ALMIGHTY AS LONG AS MY ASS ISN'T GETTING SUED
>>580484620A vn about a loser girl who wants to turn her life around in her last two years of highschool. She's known as the town weirdo and you can choose to make her act like a lolcow and freak out at any given moment, or try to fix her reputation
>>580562847>How did you make the game engine's editor UI?C++, ImGui, and Claude
my game is growing too big
>>580563523Why more than a programming language? How does it work?
>>580563205And then she gets a following online and leaves you to fuck chad.
>>580563820game is lua, python is a bunch of scripts for benchmarking and other crap like fixing assets, bash is for pushing updates to itch/steam etc, the rest is docs n stuff
>>580563913That could be one of the endings.
>>580563913vulgar post but that can be done tastefully
apparently being a game developer gives women the ick
Sometimes, I can't tell if I'm rotating my apple or if I'm just spinning my wheels.
>>580564086Interesting.So basically you use tools.
>>580564216Most foids I mention it to bring up the film Grandma's Boy.
>>580564482The only chick that ever was genuinely impressed by gamedev as a hobby was this 32 year old bpd goth who fucked almost everyone in the city that I somehow ended up getting friendzoned by.
>>580564326What if the Apple is in place and you are the one spinning?
>>580561960oh yeah? well i was playing pokemon emerald on mt ti-inspire faggot im better than you
>>580564216Most women I've mentioned it to don't mind at all.
>>580564216I give women the ick so game dev won't hurt my chances any further
>>580564216being a lolidev cancels it out
>>580564216I doubt they would care as long as you're bringing the money
>>580564823This is why zoomers are so cooked. You will forever be just a consumer.
I'm a Cutting Edge Vibe Creator, personal valuation at $800 million
>>580550351
I played a match online against my friend in my game earlier today. It was fun. Pic kinda related but not really cuz it wasn't from our match.Thanks for reading my plog. (my progress blog)
>>580563523>LuaBased and blessed.
Her hips keep getting bigger the more I work.
>>580568832hey, who's the little character on the board?
>>580568832>he had the red maple fight ready this entire time and left it out of the DDREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>580568832Do you worry about the slop art being highly visible and easy to spot?
>>580569191Cheer girl. When you use 'Reach' and select a goal for your score card, she pops up and cheers for you. It is a visual indicator that your opponent is locked into a specific scoring row; let's you know to try and use your dice to knock their held dice off the table and scratch. You need to spend HP or MP to initiate a reach. Successfully completing the reach gives you back twice that amount.Lore wise, they are from Sunny's home island, there is a tradition where the young girls are taught this dance to pull forth magics from deep within the earth and imbue someone with strength.
>>580569307I'm at the point where I've started to intentionally leave issues and errors in my backgrounds, it brings me joy seeing people seethe about it. The gantry was a perfect opportunity for me to leave it as a convoluted rube goldberg machine.
>>580569972based
Is this what you want to be?
10 hours until I can afford Astra 6 MAX, then you'll all suffer
>>580571945we are so fucking back
>>580571945They have paused all max subs lol you're too late.
>>580571945I expect to see your progress tomorrow
how does a bullet hell game dev know if their attacks are "winnable" or "survivable"? do they test their own shit or do they just go with the vibe?
>>580569972>another kritzinger gameoh fuck OFF. ritter. it's fucking ritter again. fifteen years and we're doing this again because nobody remembers anything.I was in hotglue when you could still tell people that without having to explain which asshole you weren't. Aika, Cosmic Break, the Aeria forum shit. 150 people in the guild but somehow I got to answer for whatever he'd been posting that day. I wanted people to play with. that was it. instead it's pubs coming to /jp/ to argue, his mates doing the u mad routine, everybody else leaving. and then he leaves too because there's another game to do it in. WE WERE STILL PLAYING THE OLD ONE YOU CUNT.And Shock Cocoon. same picture. same thread. same "what do you guys think of this project" from somebody who apparently just discovered his own fucking website. Chief Editor and Project Manager. couldn't just make a game, had to make sure everybody knew who was IN CHARGE of making the game. I remember trying to filter him and losing the game threads because he put his name on those too. can't even get rid of the prick without getting rid of the thing you came there for.>>>/jp/7504482>>>/jp/7504494deleted named thread, anonymous repost. there. before somebody says nobody ever had proof. i'm not digging this up for fun, i'm digging it up because you people keep fucking LYING about why everyone hated him.>it's been fifteen yearsyes and? does the date make it not happen? am I supposed to like him now? he gets to show up with another demo and we're all supposed to go oh nice work anon. FUCK your demo. I don't care if it's good.And don't reply "who" you know who. or you're him. and if you're not him why are you doing this for him. why is there ALWAYS somebody here doing this for him. I was there before the name change, I was there before the studio shit, you don't get to tell me it was harmless because you only saw the funny screenshots. it wasn't fucking funny on our end.
>>580573426ok
>>580573394Yes. Good bullet patterns are more like puzzles with designed solutions.
>>580573426meltie
Game design is the hardest part of gamedev.
>>580573426I see I'm not the only person from hotglue who hates Kritzinger.
>>580573426based
>>580569972>it brings me joy seeing people seethe about itthere. read it. that's the whole fucking thing. You think it's about whether the background looks right. It isn't. It was never about the game with him. Someone has to be annoyed and everyone else has to hear how amused he is by it. Fifteen years and he's still doing this and I'm still explaining it to people who reply "based">>580573671>meltieKDF again. you don't even know what I'm talking about. I'm not mad about a gantry. I hadn't even looked at the fucking gantry. I saw his name and knew. And now I've looked because you people won't shut up and yes it's shit. On purpose apparently. Fine, you win, I'm mad. I still hate you. Winning doesn't mean I have to stop hating you. I was replying to the other hotglue guy anyway, nobody asked the rest of you. go back to your shitty demos and leave me out of it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/5201370/AGGRO_Thaumiel_Mercenaries/
>>580576808Looks retarded but chopcocks love that shit
>>580576808Looking at indie games today makes me feel like a boomer parent that sees nothing but brainrot timewasting garbage being beamed into people's heads
>>580576034>>580573426Please consider therapy. Half of the things you mentioned I didn't even recall until I searched the archives or my saved image folder. Even with that brief refresher, I'm baffled.
A world with 1 less AIfag is a better one. Please consider posting more.
>>580483408hello anons, i want to develop a little lisa fangame, do you guys know where can i learn how to add stages, characters, etc.?
>>580578732>avatarfagging with your slop every post to bootYep. Never playing your game faggot. KYS
>>580579092
>>580578732>>580578732>Half of the things you mentioned I didn't even recallwhich half. which FUCKING half. Aeria? hotglue? the named thread you deleted? you're going to have to be specific because apparently one of us was paying attention.you don't remember me at all do you. Not even vaguely. I could put my old nick here and you'd just search that too. I'm not doing it. I'm not giving you another thing to look up so you can go "oh that guy" and pretend you remembered. You should fucking know. I know how that sounds. shut up.>my saved image folderoh but you kept the pictures. good. glad the pictures made it. I'm sitting here remembering arguments I had with people because YOUR fucking name was attached to the guild and you need thumbnails to work out what I'm talking about. It was 150 people when you wanted to explain why it wasn't your fault. Now it's too long ago to remember. Always fucking something. I used to read your replies before posting mine. Actually read them, try to work out whether you were being serious. That's the part that makes me want to scream. I thought we were having an argument. Apparently I was just there while you found something to post.>Please consider therapy.don't fucking "please" me. You were pleased with yourself about making people seethe less than two hours ago. At least stick to it. Tell me you remember and thought it was funny. I can hate that. What the fuck am I supposed to do with you needing a refresher. And don't do the "I'm going to sleep" shit. I remember that too. Of course I fucking do. I can't remember the login for the account I played on but I remember you going to bed.I'm not asking to matter to you. That's not what I said. I want you to understand who you're talking to. No I'm not posting the nick. You'd just say you forgot that as well and then I'd have to sit here knowing you saw it and still didn't remember. Fuck you. I was there. Look again. Not the pictures, the replies. I WAS IN THE FUCKING REPLIES
>>580579092have ai rip it open and do stuff
>>580579092unironically ask AI
>>580578732Go back to attention whoring in hotglue or Betz discord, no one cares about your slop.
>>580578732hahaha your izzat is fucking tanking in real time HAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>580573426>this schizo has him rent free for so long he can't let goLMAO. Do you know what this obsession says about you?
>>580578732Just own up to it kritz
>>580578732Dude just ignore him, pretty sure those 4 replies are all him or him + one schizo considering the typing style of the 3rd and 4th guy
>>580579715I know Kritzinger from hotglue too and he's a giant annoying faggot so I get why someone is mad at him.
>>580579865dude EVERYONE knows this guy
>>580579302*SNAP*New melty lore just dropped.
>And is this... *shuffles pages* Eric Marotte in the room with us?>What? No. Marotte is *mumble*... He got permission from the original japanese author.
Are we good or should I head for the bunker?
>>580580891GET TO THE BUNKER!>>>/bant/24917433>>>/bant/24917433>>>/bant/24917433
Eric just gave me permission to make a Haunted Chocolatier clone
>>580581170>Come to /bant/ we have a shitty coombait platformer and the dev has 0 interest in playing other peoples' platformers!No
>>580581335I played all bant's games that I could and gave them unfiltered feedback
>>580558582kek
Game design is like building a house of cards. You start working on the base and it looks fairly stable, but the more you build on top of it, the tiny little misalignment will eventually cause the whole thing to come crashing down.
>>580584249stop building a house of cards then and design an actual foundation
>>580584249yeah. I'm scared. players want more items. but... what if I accidentally create some optimal way to play that isn't the most fun
>>580584350>t. clueless nodev>>580584462>t. knower
>>580581205I told claude to clone it, it told me it doesn't know what intuitive chocolate making means
>>580584462>what if I accidentally create some optimal way to play that isn't the most funyou patch it out on non-chinese versions
>>580581734Thanks for playing my game, muah muah, two kisses for you
>write the story in english. Broken esl shit.>write the story in romanian.Good, great even but romanians don't read. >no one's going to play your shitty game.I don't care, I'm doing it for fun. I like working.Should I just stick to Romanian instead? It's not like I'm gmi anyway. But Idk what to do.
>>580584917Write it in your silly little gypsy tongue and ask AI to translate it.
>>580585007I don't want to use ai. My silly gyppo language might be trash but my eng is trashier.
>>580584917Citim, dar nu platim
>>580532235>/agdg/: don't worry if your game is similar to another one just like make game :)>/twatter/: UHM EXCUSE ME YOU STOLE THIS THIS IS STEALING I'M CALLING THE INTERNET POLICE RIGHT NOW MANAGER OH MANAGER
>>580585115În regulă. Oricum nimieni nu-mi va juca jocul. De ce nu?
>>580585114So you know there's an easy solution to your problem but you'd rather complain. Very eastern european of you.
>>580585381>autists can't tell the difference between taking inspiration and copying 1:1
I wanted to try and make an episodic exploration kind of game inspired by Life Is Strange but in a simple Twine format with zero knowledge of coding and gave up. For a week I tried to get the grasp of HTML, CSS and JavaScript and still knew fuck all, and the things I'd want in the game would be impossible to implement/do for me. Even tried going the AI way but that shit is literally useless making 5 mistakes for every single prompt. It's joever for me, I might just be low IQ I guess.
>>580586779or just use renpy, that has the benefit of infinite source code with being able to decomp any renpy game
>>580586779Many such cases. At least you can now move on with your life. Please don't continue to lurk here for years on end, unwilling to let go of what you already know is unattainable for you.
>>580587002The problem with Renpy is without art or any kind of visuals, the game's as good as dead. I also tried to learn Blender, then switched to DAZ for a bit but my laptop isn't that powerful to handle rendering etc. With Twine you can kind of rely on writing carrying the game with minimal art assets.>>580587145I might just switch to just writing stuff I like and publishing it wherever instead of trying to make a game.
>>580528951this game looks cool af, i would totally fw it once a demo comes out
>>580587339That's a good start. Go publish something on Royal Road first.
>>580585451Cine zice ca nu? Si daca scri in engleza stricata, cu un pic de romana aici si peacolo, se accepta. Nu se pune porblema de limba
>>580587557Ok. Will do. Mersi.>>580587341Thanks fren.
>>580588197
weed pen loaded.geek bar loaded.claude max plan charged to mommy's credit card loaded.martinelli apple juice with death star ice spheres: check.it's gamedev time.
Making an RPG is so fun!
>>580589705Yes!
>>580584249If it's like building a house of cards, but you have to paint and repaint (and repaint) every card and there's a million other people building their own house of cards and even if you do everything right, you will be out-earned by a kid at her first job at McDonald's.
every day i see a new set of indie game trailers that mog the shit out of me...im a programmer with subpar art skills, but i think i need to invest time in art if i want to make a living off of this
>>580591146can't even think of the last indie game trailer i was actually impressed by.
>>580591146at this point only top tier pro art skill would have a chance of saving you, it's not worth even trying to get there. There are plenty of games that made it despite unimpressive graphics
>>580591337>all the guys on Tinder and Bumble are ugly, it's hard being a girl tee hee
>>580591337Headcutters looks cool #ad. i want to be able to make something liek that even though i have no interest in boomer shooters (i do love Hotline miami sttyle violence though)>>580591340I have mediocre art skills, but I think I need to work on it enough to have The Eye for good art.I've become dispassioned by coding because i just get mogged by AI anyway, it sort of killed my identity in some ways. I am a small, small, egotistical man.
when i first came here as a tourist, i hated the ai schizo. but now i hate the anti-ai schizos i see everywhere on the internet even more. they could be your neighbor, your friends, even your spouse. it could be your very own childhood best friend leaving a negative steam review because you didnt disclose using AI despite only using Claude Code.
I'm holding off on buying Astra 6 because I discovered that the new Muse Spark 1.3 and Deepseek 4.1 are nearly as good and 10x cheaper, and you can get a free million daily tokens (for Muse, and a dogshit cheap subscription for Deepseek) if you use the Cline extension in VSCode, just copying the game folder worked, browser preview extensions work, godot ai MCP works. Hail China and Zuckerberg fuck OpenAI and Anthropic
>>580591475>I've become dispassioned by coding because i just get mogged by AI anyway, it sort of killed my identity in some ways. I am a small, small, egotistical man.Same, I used to care about it a lot as a craft but now I haven’t even looked at anything Claude shits out in I think a full year. I feel like a horse after the car got invented. It’s actually part of why I’m here. Abandoned software dev and picked up other projects.
>>580592050Yeah I’m never disclosing ai use. If I get accused of it I’ll just deny it. Fuck the witch hunt. People are evil and retarded.
>>580532235kinda funny how we all made fun of the "IDEASGUY" only just a couple years agonow an idea is worth more than the fucking labor to build it
>>580592278code is 100% fine. art and music ai is bad as decided by gaben and the shadow council
>someone shilled their shitty 3-hour dragon furry porn game’s launch yesterday on /v/>follow it just to come back and laugh at the three negative reviews later>check in on it today>picrel>it’s a $14 gamewtf, it’s this easy? You just have to make furry porn?
>>580592492>we allWho is this we?t. Idea Chad who's smart enough to not post his GMI game ideas on here or elsewhere on the internet and risk them being stolen
>>580592761Don’t care. Fartists aren’t worth more than programmers. The only thing human created in my game will be the systems and writing.
>>580593162they definitely are worth moregood art can land you sales just for no other reasoni never heard anyone say wow this game was programmed so well well i mean besides rollercoster tycoon but that was like one game and nobody else would say it in the wild so it just doesnt count mmmkay???!?
>>580593098I wonder what its like being a furry and broke as shit. It's like being a dumb asian but still nerdy (the dumb kind)
>>580593156Thankfully my concept is so involved and weird that even when I’ve explained it people just look at me weird and change the subject.I think most good ideas sound like bad ideas until people see the finished product.
>>580593098>You just have to make furry porn?it's no secret that furries have deep pockets, artists have been making bank off them for years
>>580593287>i never heard anyone say wow this game was programmed so wellDOOM
>>580592207Yeah, it's genuinely depressing. There's a dilemma inside of me thats completely self induced. I have this ego that wants to be prideful of a craft I used to love, but I'm unable to let go of the convenience of just babysitting AI, I'm kind of a huge pussy for even having this dilemma. It killed my love for game development since it was my only strength. I shouldn't be complaining that the gatekeeping has disappeared, allowing artists to exist and succeed more in this space. But again, I am small!!! I want to be the only one that wins!!!
>>580483408dumbass op picture. Why would Lain grind c++ if she's using unity? Visual script using ahh op
>>580593476No I completely get it. The fact that programming very well was hard and I was very good at it was the only reason I was employable or had any value to society. Now that ai can do it I am autistic dead weight and society would prefer I kill myself since I am no longer an exploitable resource. Thankfully I made enough to NEET forever (don’t be jealous I’m in my mid 30s) and find something else to do while continuing to live out of spite.Aside from this I’ve gotten into tinkering around with materials engineering, which is a good outlet since it requires physical testing of sample coupons that ai physically won’t be able to do for a while. Robotics has barely moved in five years.
>>580593272what would happen if i made an ai bokube clone and finished it in a month
>>580554925I 'member.
>>580561016>and to find tons of other new stuff I do actually like but didn't want to admit itCan you give an example of something you wanted to play or see in a game but didn't want to admit?
>>580593954Because she's just like me so she works on multiple game projects with different dev teams each using a different engine so she learns all engines
>>580593454I just didn’t realize they were so deep that they would pay $14 for what is self-described as a 90 minute game with three endings, and that positive reviews describe as 100%ing in 3 hours. Like I could shit out one of these a month and still work on my actual game.
>>580593098>>someone shilled their shitty 3-hour dragon furry porn game’s launch yesterday on /v/Link to the thread? I want to take notes on how to shill.Or at least the game name.
>>580594360>>>/v/747299093
>>580594360It's unreasonable to assume such threads are dev threads. I do those for games I like and want to succeed. I assume it's usually fans.
>>580593991ay, i appreciate it. Congrats on the early retirement though! You can do whatever you want in this life.
>>580593472doom was hard carried by the art wolfenstein is ass and is basically just doom 0.2
>>580593098*scalieWell the dragons in the game are pretty cute at least, I guess that is what counts. Not trivial to replicate.
>>580593287Many good looking games fail due to shit programmingMany well programmed games fail due to boring artSome games get away with having almost none of either
>>580593991EEMay as well make the hardware instead
>>580594731>It's unreasonable to assume such threads are dev threadsNo it's not, because I've done it, and I will do it again for my next game. And I'm pretty sure I don't happen to be the only person in the world who thought of this. In fact check out this guy doing it shamelessly. https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/735628165/
>>580593287Most successful indie games have very very mid art. Its rare for an indie to succeed on its art. Music is actually way more important.
>>580595797I turn off music as soon as I start a game for the first time
>>580595797Yeah I don't get why gamedevs gas up artists when friendslop games with asset flip art do numbers literally daily.
>>580595935wtf lol
>>580595797I also turn off music instantly. One of the first things I do before I start playing.
>>580596125>>580595935Actual chuds
>>580596064Friendslop games have better art than most games here.
there is no objective way to set a price for something. most of pricing is just consumer expectation that has been set at some point. if all games would cost at least 200 dollars and people would have adapted to it, it would be the normal price right now.
>>580595797I'd argue it's not the quality of the art assets themselves that matter, but rather having an artistic eye to do the best with low fidelity assets.
>>580596154Video game music is rarely good, and even if it's okay to listen to, I don't want to hear it looping over and over for 20 mins+ before the next song plays.
>>580596242SOVL v soulless>>580596202They buy their art from the store.
>>580596242edengral niggers are both blind and incompetent. infuriating trying to help them.
>>580596303Doesn't change what point I made.
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