>>580515117
*XVI

Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.

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As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, E33, Duellum, Kastaclysm, Sebbywebz, WotV, BE, WoW, or FFV we will be fine.

As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, Sakaguchi, OO, X-2, FFIV, or any "young" female Final Fantasy character we will be fine.

Take care to not agree with anyone's /ffg/ approved positive or negative opinions too much. Agreeing with someone can come off as disingenuous, but only when certain posts or certain ideas are agreed with, not others. Additionally, saying something positive/negative about a game not listed here may be considered as necessarily saying something negative/positive about a game that is listed here. Also remember that if you disobey any of the rules, this automatically puts you into the opposing category of posters. There are no exceptions. These are the rules.

>>580516225
FPBP

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Before you make negative remarks about Naoki Yoshida, FFXIV, or FFXVI, I want you to remember that Yoshi-P is a human being.

Seems like the only negative is MAI and the icons, something Hamaguchi and the team is already aware

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>>580516559
Bro, they know no one likes Chadley but he's been telling news outlets that everyone loves Chadley so he will be even more present in Revelation. When asked about Rebirth's bloat and whether or not there will be less bloat in Revelation, he said that he doesn't think there is any bloat in Rebirth, he thinks the issue is that people want to play the game too quickly and that everything about Rebirth was exactly as much and as long as it needed to be.

It doesn't matter what they are "aware" of. They're not going to "fix" anything that doesn't need fixing in their eyes.

>>580516863
>they know no one likes Chadley
Source?

>>580516559
Meh, I wouldn't mind if it stays personally.

How did 7Rev dodge the bullet from the SteamDB leak? It was supposed to release before KH4.

>>580517236
I think the obvious answer is that it's less finalized even than Persona 6, which has not yet been officially revealed. The carried over framework from the previous games is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

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One true love and tender kissu! Canon and cute couple!

>>580517236
>the SteamDB leak
What leak?

>>580517881
A full list of Steam Achievements was leaked for a bunch of unreleased games, including titles like Persona 6 which hasn't even had a real trailer yet.

Revelation, somehow, was not in the leak.

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>>580517881
>he doesn't know

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>>580520754
For being the face of XIV, they really don't let her do very much.

>>580518004
You want achievements? Get the achievements DLC for $9,99!
You want to save Aerith and Zack? $24,99!
You want to play Sephiroth? $29,99!
You want a good game? Sorry, we don't do that here, but do you want more DLCs? Nomura needs a new car.

>>580521338
Unlike the slums' meat bicycle, Shtola doesn't need to be constantly on screen and to get stabbed to be noticeable.

FFXIV needs a mobile port

>>580521691
Silly bitch you can't make a MMORPG on mobile
best you can hope is a very lite version of it where you're stuck to restricted jobs like blue mage or beastmaster

>>580521691
>>580521886
I think you *can* make an MMORPG on mobile, but you cannot have crossover with the PC/console version. That's why Tencent's mobile port was its own version and is basically only ARR. Though I would not be surprised if they eventually try to make it a reality. It could possibly work with a controller, but I have no idea how you're going to play XIV with full touch screen controls. People are already retarded enough in XIV, we don't need a bunch of mobile players invading the game too.

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>>580522097
The problem is that unlike VIIR where you can just mash or XV where you can hold one button and win, FFXIV requires skill and patience, so the mobile audience who plays between lunch and returning to the wage cage is already disqualified because they don't have the patience to learn FFXIV's mechanics.
Just give them a discount VIIR and they'll be happy pretending they're playing a real game.

cid and vincent look so fun man

My final team will be vincent, red and cloud, just like when i finished the OG for the first time when i was 8 years old back in 2001

>>580522421
The game is currently like that, but we'll have to see how the "Evolved" mode changes that. You know, actually, I kinda feel like Evolved mode is going to make XIV play more like a VIIR, for example, than an MMO. I think it's really fucking late in XIV's lifecycle to be trying to port it to mobile, but who knows.

>>580523019
Oh, right. I keep forgetting Evolved is a thing because I got used to the real skills. I'd be lost if I didn't have my samurai skill tree.

>>580522421
>you can just mash in 7R
Based easy mode player

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>>580524235
NTA but

>>580525035
nyooo stop proving me wrong!111!!

>>580525035
>>580525191
>still having to swap menus, shortcuts and select abilities to keep the combo up
its like fags don't even watch the gameplay they post.

>>580525938
The webm is literally
>spam square
>spam circle
>spam square
>spam circle
>press x once

>>580526298
And yet VIIRGins will claim this is harder than playing XIV where you have 24 buttons. And you need them all. And that's not counting sprint, limit break, and all the potions.

>>580526782
To be fair and play devil's advocate, in XIV you mostly only press all your buttons during burst. You do still press more buttons during "down time" in between bursts also, but I think XIV down time is more comparable to VIIR gameplay in terms of button presses.

>>580527082
...the fuck is a burst? I main black mage, I don't think I have that.

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Predict the next anniversary FF game

>>580527423
Tapeworm in Heaven.
You play a health and safety inspector going over Tifa's bar.

>>580527170
>I main black mage, I don't think I have that.
...you do. I haven't really played BLM since Shadowbringers, but you definitely have a burst. Everyone has a burst because of the existence of the "2m meta". It's when you're supposed to use Leylines and Triplecast and your Xenoglossys.

>>580527423
>new, everyone's in
>new, everyone's in
>new, everyone's in
>reimagining of an older game
Hmm... I dunno. 2027 is a big year for FF it looks like. Some supposed 40th anniversary game, 30th anniversary of FFVII, Revelation releases, 30th anniversary of Evangelion, a crossover with both Evangelion and FFVII for FFXIV, as well as the next XIV expansion, as well as the first year where we might start seeing Kiryu's vision for Square Enix come into being.

>>580528325
Oh, that? I thought you mean something like Beastmaster or RDM.

>>580527423
Resonance?

>>580529048
Resonance is coming out this year, not next year.

>>580529176
Then Resonance 2

>>580529364
Doubtful. That would be the lamest, most limp dicked 40th anniversary of anything, ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf4_WegMYRE

CRAZY CHOCOBO PART 3

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>parachuting from the Highwind was directly inspired by Fortnite after all
Welp, it's official. The doomer shitposters who didn't even play the game were right, yet again, while the real fans defended VIIR with their life by saying that parachuting was from the original Final Fantasy VII.

Why does Hamaguchi keep proving VIIR fans wrong?
Do you think he posts here? He probably does and he just thinks it's funny to mess with us.

>>580531615
Man, you are dumb. I was one of those who said "it's not about fornite, its about FFVII".
You wanted to make like parachuting was something not from FFVII, but something from fornite. I disagree, because parachuting does exist in the original. The actual mechanics however, on how it works, of course it will take away from Legend of zelda TotK or fornite, what other games include skydiving or parachuting? in the original game it was just a setpiece, you cant make it a setpiece.

>>580531820
Hamaguchi himself said that parachuting was "directly inspired by Fortnite"

>>580531978
is there parachuting in the original?

>>580532036
Not any that directly inspired the parachuting in Revelation.

The parachuting in Revelation was directly inspired by Fortnite, Hamaguchi said so himself.

>>580532262
>Not any that directly inspired the parachuting in Revelation.
So there's no parachuting in the original?

>>580532329
Not any that directly inspired the parachuting in Revelation, since the parachuting in Revelation was directly inspired by Fortnite. Hamaguchi said so himself.

>>580532446
Got it, so parachuting in the original doesn't exist, and the parachuting in revelation is something that was from Fornite.

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>>580532545
>the parachuting in revelation is something that was from Fornite
That is correct. Hamaguchi said so himself.

>>580532664
So if there was no skydiving and just parachutes in cutscenes, it would still come from fornite?

>>580532906
That's not a question for me, anon, that's a question for Hamaguchi. I'm literally just repeating what he said himself. Sort of like how Nomura said that Sephiroth's Masamune has an organic quality to it.

Parachuting was invented by fornite

>>580533190
The parachuting in Revelation specifically was directly inspired by Fortnite. Hamaguchi said so himself.

Hey jimbo, you around?
i have a pretty big dissapointment to share just for you based on the previews
There's no more magic elements other than fire, ice wind or lightning. No water, no earth, no holy.
Man, fuck this. I wonder why? is it because of balance? too much focus on magic elements on stagger?

>>580526298
The vast majority of the buttons in XIV are only pressed during your burst phase. Furthermore, many jobs have massive cases of artificial complexity due to shit like needing to press 1-2-3 for your basic generic combo when there's no meaningful reason to ever press them out of order. The summoner movepool in particular is especially egregious with the combo tool being able to devolve their standard rotation into 1 button.
Why do you think that evolved mode is moving into contextual buttons?
But its great that you're good at pressing multiple buttons in 7R though ;)

>>580534572
See >>580527082
You still press more buttons in XIV even during "downtime", but I already said XIV's downtime is more comparable to VIIR in terms of button presses. Smiley winky face

>>580516863
>he said that he doesn't think there is any bloat in Rebirth, he thinks the issue is that people want to play the game too quickly and that everything about Rebirth was exactly as much and as long as it needed to be
And that's why he's HamaGOATchi. He's absolutely correct.

>>580534812
If FF7R was like 14, Cloud's basic punisher combo attack would take up three seperate buttons and the hold effect for the fury buff would consume a fourth one. 7R does what normal arpgs do and include contextual buttons.
There are more buttons but I'd hardly call it "complex" or "engaging". There's a reason why 14's fanbase have been bitching about the poor job design for years, especially on the healer side.

>>580535607
Yes, that's what I said. XIV's downtime in between bursts is more comparable to VIIR's gameplay in terms of button presses.

Horrible thread

>>580538151
I know, right? Complaining about VIIR, the nerve!

>>580538238
I wasn't complaining about VIIR. I just wasn't being overly positive about it, which can come off to some people as being negative.

Neither me nor my dad work at SquareEnix, but I can still confidently predict everything about FFXVII:
- It will be out at least 5 years after the official announcement (which won't happen until late next year at the very least).
- It will make heavy use of AI
- It will be PS6 exclusive, and won't have a physical edition
- It will cost 80$.
- The world will be a huge empty wasteland (but still NOT a proper open world)
- The artstyle will be the usual soulless westernized dark 'n gritty hyper-realistic slop
- It will barely have a story
- It will have a very poor character development
- It will have no more than 4 magic elements at best
- It will have no more than 3 properly explorable towns
- It will have a huge shitload of boring hunt/fetch quests
- It will still have paid DLCs
- In other words, it will be the epitome of everything wrong with modern FF, and the very definition of soulless corporate goyslop.
- HOWEVER...
- ...it will be turn based!
- Because of this, all the so-called """TRUE""" FF-fans will call it a "masterpiece", a "return to form" and boast about how Final Fantasy is supposedly... ...LE BACK!!!
- Thanks to this, FFXVII will sell better than any FF from the past 10 years, saving SE from bankrupcy, gracing us with still 10 more years of slop, including FFXVIII Online, a complete 4-parts FF9 remake, a FF7R sequel and 2 more KH chapters (but NO Versus Reboot, nor Verum Rex either)

>>580538619
Sounds better than XVI, at least.

>>580538619
>- It will be PS6 exclusive, and won't have a physical edition
Already false.

>>580538619
>- It will make heavy use of AI
*spits*

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>>580538619
>- It will make heavy use of AI
>- The world will be a huge empty wasteland (but still NOT a proper open world)
>- The artstyle will be the usual soulless westernized dark 'n gritty hyper-realistic slop
>- It will barely have a story
>- It will have a very poor character development
>- It will have no more than 4 magic elements at best (Rainbow is just "all")
>- It will have no more than 3 properly explorable towns
>- In other words, it will be the epitome of everything wrong with modern FF, and the very definition of soulless corporate goyslop.
>- HOWEVER...
>- ...it will be turn based!
>- Because of this, all the so-called """TRUE""" FF-fans will call it a "masterpiece", a "return to form" and boast about how Final Fantasy is supposedly... ...LE BACK!!!
>- Thanks to this, FFXVII will sell better than any FF from the past 10 years

This game already exists.

>>580538815
That's a pretty high bar

>>580539279
You haven't read his post beyond the first 3 lines, did you?
>inb4 "hahaha you pissed off my boogeyman"

>>580541348
>You haven't read his post beyond the first 3 lines, did you?
You didn't actually read my post to discover that I have omitted everything that was inapplicable, as well as adding one line of commentary, did you? Gotcha, bitch!

>inb4 "hahaha you pissed off my boogeyman"
I wasn't going to say that, but I necessarily must have pissed off someone who is someone's bogeyman in order for this to be included in your post.

>>580541832
>I wasn't going to say that
Hu-uh...

Anybody know if Helean Lodge aka Cliff Resort got confirmed to be in FF7Rev today?

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This is the worst /vg/ general I follow, I'm seriously thinking about closing the tab I keep open for it

Barely ever any good images

Absolutely by far the most schizo and circle-jerk'ish general I've seen, hearing the same "Barry"/"fatherless" shit for years on end

No one talks about the games or girls, although I don't blame them, I'm at end-game on Clair Ovbscur E33 and it's infinitely better than modern FF, Squeenix is run by old Japanese businessman retards.

>>580545291
kek at pic

> I'm at end-game on Clair Ovbscur E33 and it's infinitely better than modern FF
Dunno what you mean, endgame clair obscure is one of the worst ive seen in a while, definitely FFX-tier of bad,

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>>580531615
Collabing with Apex and getting THIS for Rebirth was a mistake. They should have collabed with Fortnite to begin with.

>>580545470
see >>580538815

>>580545291
>I'm at end-game on Clair Ovbscur E33 and it's infinitely better than modern FF, Squeenix is run by old Japanese businessman retards.
Many people felt similarly.

>>580531615
>>580545507
Unbelievable. What trash.

>>580545291
>Absolutely by far the most schizo and circle-jerk'ish general I've seen, hearing the same "Barry"/"fatherless" shit for years on end
The funniest part is that every time someone with exactly the same disposition as you comes into this thread to talk about how bad it is and about how you're above it all, every single one of you always neglects to mention the "Jimbo" spam that has gone on for years. Every single time. Kinda weird, huh?

>>580548029
...mm. How queer, indeed.

>>580545291
>shitposter hates Final Fantasy
>plays other games instead of Final Fantasy
>hates /ffg/
>still keeps tab open for years
>still posts often but pretends he's not even here right now

>>580545470
>>580545291
>Dunno what you mean, endgame clair obscure is one of the worst ive seen in a while, definitely FFX-tier of bad,
End game E33 is even worse than FFX. They both turn into the same "everyone is the same" spam (assuming FFX post-game), but you still kinda care about FFX's story at that point. In E33, there is just nothing at all after the end of Act 2, and the reveal is just the most bottom of the barrel kiddie cop out shit imaginable. It literally admitted "we weren't actually creative enough to end our story", which is one of the biggest let downs I've experienced in gaming any time recently, because I wanted so badly for it to end up being a good game for how Act 1 surprised me. I was expecting to not like the game at all, but it hooked me then it ended up showing me that I was wrong to believe that it could have been great.

>>580548482
But enough about the fatherless loser.

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My wife Eiko is extremely cute!

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>>580550223
The bestest

>>580548668
>End game E33 is even worse than FFX
Still better than FFXIII.

>>580527423
Builders

>>580531615
I thought it TotK that did the whole parachuting

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Why wasn't he invited for the preview?

>>580562868
how much is SE paying rabbi Max anyway?
could they even afford sebby?

>>580562868
Why? he hates it.
What's funny is that he still needs it or he doesnt eat.

>>580564136
>they understood the request
LOOOOOL gaijin thinks JAPS listen to foreigners???? LMAO

>check /ffg/
>it's just more eceleb spam
The really need to make /incel/ a reality and ban all eceleb conversation anywhere else.

>>580569124
and the crowd goes mild!

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bravo nojima

What has the best to worst combat gameplay?
7R, 14, 15, or SoP?

>>580564136
Why doesn’t anyone tell him to add a dynamic day-night cycle?

>>580570123
7R > SoP > XV
I haven't played XIV.

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Sovl

>>580570253
How would that work?
What if one player stumbles on a cutscene at day while another at night? It would be a jarring difference.
How does that work in XV/XVI?

>>580570123
XIV has the best actual fights, and the most complicated rotations, but it's a game more about memorizing a "musical chairs" or "fight choreography" while pressing your buttons, and it happens pretty much the same every time outside of like "this happens first this time" or "the pattern is different this time" or "you get the mechanic this time" type stuff. The rotations are also more complicated than the buttons you press in the other games, but once you know your rotation, you just press the same buttons in the same order every time (ideally, you're still a human) except for minor alterations sometimes where like there is a downtime during burst on a specific fight. The concept of a rotation isn't really *that* much different than building up meter to spend on something like you might do in 7R, since class rotations are also universally about building a meter and then spending the meter, but rotating through the same 2 minute rotation 5 times throughout a 10 minute fight, for example, can be more obviously "the same" since you're generally not "reacting" to things and are mostly going with whatever the fight choreography dictates, and especially because once you get better and more familiar with a fight, you begin to notice that oh "this ability comes up during this part of the fight" type things since they are designed as a sort of choreography.

The other games are all more "reactionary" in nature. I think you can argue the combat is better in the other games based on preference, but I think XIV has the best fights themselves of the games in that list, if that makes sense. For the others I'd put VIIR > SoP > XV

>>580572093
i grokd your post so i could ready it.

FFXIV has the best fights and most complex rotations, but combat mostly means memorizing fixed fight choreography and repeating the same button sequence with only minor variations. The other games are more reactive, so combat preference is subjective, though for pure fights XIV ranks highest, followed by VIIR > SoP > XV.

>>580572287
I'm happy that AI allows you to experience life in a similar way to your superiors.

>>580572528
plus I just remembered I meant to type 16 instead of 14.

>>580571489
This shit is what people dreamed of

>>580570123
VIIR.

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Im going to reask because I fucked up

What has the best to worst combat gameplay?
7R, 15, 16 or SoP?

>>580573117
>>580572908

7r > SoP > 16 >>> 15

>>580573117
SoP > XVI > VIIR > XV > everything else > shit > feces > Lord of the Fallen > FFXIII.

>>580573117
7R>SoP>16>15

>>580564136
I wish these people would fuck off

From the previews I'm watching it seems like they heard the complaints about Chudley and instead of toning it down they just swapped him for Mai thinking "People won't find it annoying if it's a cute girl, right?"

Resonance is terrible.

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>>580570123
I always wonder if XV's combat would have turned out better if it stayed grounded and slower like in the demo.

>>580578847
Why?
>>580579074
Turning Final Fantasy into a swing swing swing "action game" was a mistake.

>>580579397
The demo had a unique customization where you could build your own sword combos and skill sets. That's the kind of customization you don't see in generic action games these days and it has a lot of potential for fun builds. But the final game ditched all that and went back to a KH style system instead except it stripped out everything that made KH fun. All the uniqueness from the demo was just gone.

Max hates it :(

>>580538619
>- It will be PS6 exclusive, and won't have a physical edition
No, SE's specifically said that exclusivity is no longer viable. Their final timed exclusive was Bravely Default HD. No more exclusives.

>>580570123
7R > SoP > 14 > 15
SoP had the potential to be better, but it's too cheaply made and repetitive. The jobs basically just give you a few passives. It doesn't have the depth of Nioh. If TN ever gets to make a sequel, I bet they'll just do an asset flip like they do to all their series.

>>580581026
Holy shit taste

>>580581967
>MMO simon says
>hold O
Yeah, those are so much better than actual games.

>>580573117
SoP > 7R if you bother to experiment with it > XVI > XV

>>580576973
You're already given the option to turn Mai off in the demo according to a frog reviewer.
>>580572093
d211113114567321111 maybe use a potion for 5% more damage during your opener but the bulk of it is just waiting for 2 minutes to access most of your kit.

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bad news sisters
no god mode at launch for us vidya haters

>>580583787
square square square square square
circle circle circle circle circle circle circle
X

Don't let the Krile enjoyers trick you with their Krile propaganda. Krile is actually bad in the jp Duellum tournaments. Imagine a support being that bad at the highest level of coordinated play.

Krile is boring as shit. In the art she looks retarded and in the game she looks like a random NPC. No personality other than MUH GALUF, who was infinitely better. "People" like her because "people" are attracted to nondescript kids.

>>580584478
what exactly is "streamlined progression" in this context and why should I care?

>>580586137
They added cheats to the Shitch versions of Remake and Rebirth. Instant max level, 9999 damage per hit, infinite health and so on.

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When he's right, he's right.

>>580586405
huh. yeah i dont care.
thanks for explaining anon.

Which carbuncles do you prefer?
- Lizardmen goblins
- Ori-looking creatures
- Gremlins (1984), but teal
- Experiment (Lilo & Stitch)
- Chimecho (Pokemon)
- Eevee/Espeon (Pokemon)
- Ling-Ling (Drawn Together), but white
- Squirrels
- Fennecs
- Bunnies
- Green Werewolf

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>>580590236
I like XIV's or XV's the most. Probably XV's overall, but XIV's is cuter.

>>580590236
Keep in mind the answer can out you as a zoophile.

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Truer words have never been spoken.