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World of Warcraft Classic General

Servers discussed:
>Classic ERA
>Classic Hardcore

FAQ:
>Is classic+ happening?
No, datamining and insider leaks have revealed that "Camelot" is a seasonal retail server with shop mounts, deluxe pre order packages, wow token and a cash shop and is not worth paying attention to.

>What version should I play?
Classic ERA is permanent vanilla with no resets or seasons, it is the recommended version for most people.

>What about Hardcore?
Hardcore is great, if your character dies there, you can move it to ERA and continue playing there.

>Which Faction should I pick?
Both are great, the population is split around 60/40 in favor of the Alliance.

Tools and resources:
>Talent calculator https://classicdb.ch/?talent
>look up quests and items: https://www.wowhead.com/classic
>weakauras: https://wago.io/
>Addon client: https://www.curseforge.com/download/app

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQGkIDiQfR4
new parasocial
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>no gay centaurs in OP
Good sign perhaps
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Every time I read someone seething about Nilla' and how it needs changes for Classic+, it is always a Ret Paladin player, curious....
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Testament status has evolved over the course of the last few days in an interesting way. As the datamines and leaks came in about the pre order deluxe packages, micro transactions, shop mounts and retail models the seasonal retail boys changed their position from:

>camelot is classic+! we take vanilla and add a few things to make it a complete game.

to

>Actually a deluxe pre order package is good because x
>Actually I like shop mounts
>Battle pass is actually a good thing
>3 day early access is actually what I want
>Mythic+ would actually fit nicely
>WoD was actually a good expansion
>What do you mean transmog is bad?
>SoD was excellent
>Seasons are good actually
>seasonal is CLASSIC

The psychology is super fascinating.
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>>580535160
>lollular
the king parasocial has spoken.
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>from the people who destoyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som.
>THIS time it will be different, trust the plan.
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>>580535273
>>580535453
TRVKE unfortunately...
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>>580535273
SOD was excellent, calm your tits. The rest no one said.
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>>580535224
ret paladin is the most played spec in retail btw, and has been for years.
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>Classic Plus needs THIS!
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<Classic ERA PvE Cluster>

>no bots
>no GDKP
>no boost spam
>no shitskins
>no gold sellers
>no streamer grifters
>no level 60 ganking level 20s
>no 3 rogues killing you after unbooning in main city
>helpful and mature community
>can still play BGs with Ranjeet and Pablo
>all guilds use SR or other fair systems
>normal economy due to no bots and no shitskin farmers

Your excuse for not joining up?
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>>580535597
built for orcs
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>>580534081
>>580534081
>>580534081

real thread

>>580534081
>>580534081
>>580534081

migrate
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Soon you will see buck broken blizzdrones pre order the deluxe hero ultimate Camelot package, ride their shop mount while playing a sky elf death knight typing "classic+ hype" in world chat as they are riding to Orgrimmar to sell a wow token.
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>>580535812
NO
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>>580535812
No one wants to use a garbage troll thread that can't be found in the catalog/search.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Jw4rsbnpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uZi2Im2k5w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0dR_AaEstw
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>game is happening before the first war
>paladin are not a thing yet
>pala-players are now forced to don the dress because they're just priests
total wowyer victory
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>>580535812
Shan't.
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are we getting classic+ or is it just cope?
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>Should the Camelot pre order package come with gender pronouns that can be seen in the character inspect window?
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dammit i made my arthas ulther meme in the fucked up thread
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>>580536773
pvmping
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>>580536554
Depends who you ask, just remember that seasonal boys said that SoD was classic+.
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goon bros where are we?
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SoD was such irrevocable dogshit on every level. I can't think of a single thing about it that I would want to see in Classic+, other than the vague idea of "new content".
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>>580537003
https://www.twitch.tv/paulina_irl
https://www.twitch.tv/paulina_irl
https://www.twitch.tv/paulina_irl
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we will get classic+ but somehow they will fuck it up
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>>580537026
Another warrior main complaining
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>>580537026
>I can't think of a single thing about it that I would want to see in Classic+
Warriors being sent to the cuck shed for many, many months and updates was quite the sight. I'd like to see this again.
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>>580537167
thats a bloke
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>Xaryu flown out to Blizzard hq
>signed NDA over Classic +
>gets back home
>immediately takes interest in old wow lore
>plays through all of Warcraft 3 and Frozen Throne campaigns
Hmmmmmmmm…
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WHYS HORDE DEAD ON EU HC
YOU
JOIN HORDE NOW
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>>580538331
you have to be alliance for salvation
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Post things that needed to be addressed about the shaman class in classic plus
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w-why is son of arugal in the baby starting area
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>>580538223
>>580538558
It's be nice to have a tank spec.
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>>580538223
warcraft 3 branched timeline imo. hyped. also how the FUCK are there no leaks at this point??? blizzcon is in 2 days you're telling me not even the caterer is leaking some picture bullshit
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>>580538558
Make enhance a tank spec
Make warlocks curse of elements reduce nature resistance
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>>580538558
Parry being a talent is really insulting, even paladins get that for free.
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>People think that classic+ is going to be an alternate timeline where Arthas never went evil
>People think classic+ is going to be a Warcraft 2 era
>People genuinely believe classic+ is going to be literally anything other than a turtle wow knock off but with a retardedly high price point, fewer extra features, and neutral High Elves
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>>580539185
yeah we do. 2 days!
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>>580538796
>Make warlocks curse of elements reduce nature resistance
They should attach -nat resist to fairy fire
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>>580538558
The Air Totem needs a full-length proper questline like the Water Totem.
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Reminder
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>>580537026
Seasonal retail boys loved it though and that's the audience for season of Camelot.
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>>580535160
>norf and belular confirmed it
it's happening
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>>580536156
did blizzard fire him or did he quit? Completely retarded to put this guy in charge of a mobile game when he would absolutely be better used in a different role
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>>580539185
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Blizzard stands to gain a lot more from something like that than Era with some new dungeons and raids. A prequel with classic design philosophies could genuinely be bigger than Retail if they do it well

Do you really think Blizzard put 3 years of dev time with a team that's around the same size as the original WoW dev team to make TWoW, something a few pserver devs made in a basement?
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>wow: lordaeron reforged
>dark portal never opened
>orcs removed from the game
>there is no lich king because no dark portal
>arthas still alive
>sylvanas never becomes undead
>dalaran open
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Tauren should NEVER be a pala. EVER. its so gay
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>>580540124
horde pala / ally shaman = dead game never worth playing
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>>580540262
Let's get you back on Era, grandpa
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>>580540124
I don't understand anon, you said it was gay like it shouldn't be a thing, yet, paladin is a gay class. Please clarify.
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>>580535273
>horde paladins and alliance shamans are now a good thing

add it to the list
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>>580537193
>Another warrior main complaining
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2018?dataset=95

You clearly don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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>so many different "leaks"
>they all sounds shit
cool
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>>580540407
>pala is good and respectable and reads books like white people (alliance)
>shaman is juujuu voodoo cannibal bone-in-nose brown people (horde)

animal people shouldnt get to pretend to be white its gay
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>>580540632
>he actually clicks and consumes leakslop videos
Why?
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>>580540776
Paladins are all brown though, easily one of the brownest specs ever. Demon Hunters are probably the only class that's more brown.
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>>580540776
If so good and respectable why not priest? Paladins is the special ed of the light, can't lift a the gym like warriors, can't lift at the library like priests.
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>>580538694
Why would they be allowed to free roam with a camera phone, are you retarded? Usually they leave phones with security at the entrance.
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we are here

https://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
https://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
https://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
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>retoilets falseflagging because they know all their cash shop mounts and mogs become worthless the moment Plus releases
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>>580541395
watching nillers seethe is my favorite thing
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volumes status?
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>>580541402
How does another version of retail coming out affect the mounts and mogs of actual retail?
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>>580541164
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>>580537167
Looking
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>>580541651

>>580535273
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>>580540517
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>580541395
this can be used as a supplement to textbooks to show how mental illness can manifest itself in everyday life.
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Having over 1000 mounts in the game was a mistake.
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>>580540065
They made turtle over 8 years and still weren't finished. There's about a dozen zones that could be filled in. A prequel doesn't make sense.
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>>580541997
>Attacking the other faction in world of WARcraft, a game based on a WAR between the two factions is mental illness

retail moment
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>>580542160
you know what you're doing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVmZuPOzU0
This enrages the sh*tskin.
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>>580542368
You cant play bingo on a card that isnt square
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>>580542461
Weird how all the spics are playing retribution paladins.
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>>580542368
why do people lile DK so much
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>>580541951
>anon 1: SoD was irrevocable dogshit
>anon 2: u r crying brown warrior
Why would a brownie be crying if they are still the apex dps in sod? Are you illiterate or esl?
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>>580542887
seasonal retail boys love anything from retail
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You sh*tskins understand that if Plus happens during Warcraft 2/3 it will be a Paladin focused game right? So better get ready for us Pala Chads to dominate (again)
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>>580542915
Classic plus won't be world of warriors. You show me a chart where warriors are on top. Are you retarded?
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>>580543389
It's LITERALLY called Camelot, brown "people" are seething already
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>>580543389
will paladins get some extra thing from the cash shop? does their deluxe pre order pack come with extra powers
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total doomtranny death

total samefag death
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Alright guys heres my crumb of classic + leak, I can see you need it.
They've made The Barrens about 25% bigger.
Screencap this
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>>580544008
>>580544265
Let me guess, the zone got split in two?
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What are the worst things retail players like that doesn't exist in classic?

>micro transactions
>cross realm
>lfr

Etc
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>>580544325
It's still one zone
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>>580542461
but I'm black and main paladin
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>>580544434
Flying.
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>>580544434
dungeon difficulties
flying
transmog
wow tokens
art style
story
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>>580544434
>raid tiers
>transmog
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>>580544746
prove it. post your bbc
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>>580544459
Leak moar
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wish i could trust people to roll greed on BOE items
only roll need if youre wearing it
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>>580545539
sorry i need it for transmog :P
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This scares the thirdie. White man, classic plus was made for you.
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>>580545835
post the real photo
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>>580544008
I don't play retail.
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>>580535273
grim...
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>100 posts in
>retail mentioned 15 times already
What compels this behavior?
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>>580545906
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>>580546213
Alexensual owns this thread
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>>580538223
so exciting, this really makes me want to buy the deluxe ultimate hero package.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCj_FIdJ6w

new second monitor slop
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>>580535273
you already posted that
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>>580546698
this but unironically
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>>580546814
>oh great another fat retard
why are ALL the content creators fat. it's disgusting. obesity is a third world trait
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>>580547309
*american content creators
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>>580545835
sure thing yt boy
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Druid or Paladin for Classic+?
I want to heal in raids and PvP and Tank dungeons.
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>>580547381
that fat retard is a bong, though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPNCHI-tEOY

a new fat swarthy grifter has joined the fray
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>>classic plus: Reign of the Lich King
>>abandon "i was just training you" bullshit and make LK actually useful to stop the legion
>>Arthas gets off his ass and walks down and freezes dark portal - no burning crusade, no wod
>>freezes sunwell for good measure, wipes out blood elves for good
>>exodar crashes, is picked up by a necropolis and dragged to icecrown rhe next day. Draenei look like archimonde, they all die
>>Deathwing pops out, arthas is waiting for him. Freezes him in the maelstrom. No cataclysm
>>aspects bend the knee or get frozen
>>dalaran dragged out of crater for him to watch. no fel shit
>>warlocks summarily executed
>>old gods act up, guess what, frozen
>>horde and alliance pay tribute and he lets them live. He has no problem with the living if they bend the knee
>>sylvanas pisses him off but he has bigger things to worry about
>>he periodically tours his kingdoms, winter falls where he walks. open world raid boss. Good luck.
>>he sees into shadowlands and knows youll rez so you get points just for trying
>>pandas stay hidden, august celestials say fuck that
>>world never been safer from the legion
>>classic threat level stuff can happen becuase the big boy jobs are handled by benevolent maniac king
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>>580547550
in retail it usually doesn't matter, everyone is the same the abilities just have a different name.
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>>580547309
Most of them are American and their diet is made up mostly of chemicals and high fructose corn syrup
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>>580547683
he doesn't look very fat. he looks like an invader though. how appropriate that he's invading the c+ grift too.
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>>580547550
if you want to be better in pvp play druid, if you want to be better in pve play paladin.
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New leaked image just dropped. What could it mean?
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>>580547683
why is he right about everything he said though
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>>580548187
from where anon
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>>580546814
>no one cares about the journey
unfortunately he's right, and that's a big problem. However instead of saying things like "maybe it should matter more" and "what can we do to make it matter" he's just saying he wants to get to the "endgame" which is just turns into raidlogging
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>>580548187
>>580548459
this is from legion
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new chatgpt script foidslop just dropped!
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>>580548949
that's not new I posted that parasocial last thread
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bros i keep seeing "night elf only" leveling dungeon groups on LFG. anti dwarf racism went too far in hardcore classic
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>>580548949
she destroyed that swarthy grifter pil*v
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>>580539257
Resistances in general suck ass. Melee don't have to deal with glancing blows on their abilities.
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remove ALL raids
800+ hours to max level minimum
add more elite areas
add more spell reagents
add more unfinished zones like azshara
make fewer things stack in the inventory
nerf boomkin

I saved ploos
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>>580548949
her cadence is so annoying. russian grifter coopting chud speak yet pulls out the "as a woman!" line all the time. after her disneyfication video blew up she immediately added paid memberships
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>>580544434
Constant class rebalancing.
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#1 world first raider in wow's history with all world first kills from vanilla to end of TBC explains it best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNFWhCw8dg

Listen and learn
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Is joining a vg guild a bad idea
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>>580549673
i dont care for amy of those
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>>580549673
im deaf. can you explain the video in a sentence or two?
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>listening to the king of crybooms
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>>580549673
seasonal retail boys struggle with this reality
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>no 'mixy meet and greet
just cancel the whole thing
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>>580549673
>10 years ago
i listened and learned nothing
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>>580550148
why do they call her SnowBunnyRaceMixy again?
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>Classic+ will kill Wrath anniversary so I'll never get to experience wrath
feels bad
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>>580550428
Just play on paymane
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>>580550148
post the leaks anon
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>>580549319
based
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classic cumalot plus needs paladins to be top dps and the best tank idc about healing i already did that 20 years ago i was forced to also give me the asshbringer it makes sense lorewise that paladins are the most powerful class they have to get the most powerful lore weapon in the game just do it ok
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>>580549128
he looks like he's off cycle or something. he looks like he has cancer or something without all his gear.
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>>580549319
why not just play diablo 2 at that point?
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>>580551574
based run on sentence schizo poster.
YOU WILL PLAY PALADIN
YOU WILL ENJOY PLOOS
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>>580551001
https://leakgallery.com/hi/snowmixy/9462327
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/4897790/World_of_ClaudeCraft/

Why haven't pserver developers made their own MMO yet?
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>>580551950
based
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>>580551950
Reminder that she lives with her father. Her father is in the next room while she's making porn for her onlyfans.
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>>580551574
the developers play paladin and balance around reddit feedback so they will be
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>>580546209
retail killed his mom and fucked his (imaginary) girlfriend
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>>580549858
ya unless the person in charge wants to spend their free hours shit canning any kind of bad behavior
its like being a janny except you have a little less to monitor and all the responsibility
and you do it for free
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>>580549858
no because you know its a guaranteed raid spot even if you are kind of a shit player
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>>580552261
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>>580550428
wrath sucks, it was exposed really badly last time around
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>>580551950
Do "normal" people pay for this shit? Jesus
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>>580552261
>girl failure is using her body until it runs ragged as her father allows it to happen
not sure who is more pathetic there
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>>580552261
average white family
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>>580552770
ya but you have to play with people like this and won't clear for weeks if not months, its obviously less relevant in classic but its still the same schtick
you're not clearing anything first week besides mc with 4troonys
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>>580553207
>these are the people playing camelot

grim
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>>580553207
imagine unironically playing with gray parsing furfags
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>>580552770
thats why i heal or tank and leave the dps to hard working adderal fueled teenagers
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>>580553207
if youre playing retail i would stay away from a 4chan guild because the players are incompetent and dont try and improve
its fine in classic though because the fights are easy
i was actually in a 4chan guild in original wotlk and the guild was hardstuck in the plaguewing and didnt even make it to putricide
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>>580553483
>>580553207
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>>580553483
retoilet's strongest warrior btw
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>>580548187
>>580548187
I miss legion
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where is Alexensual when we need him
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>>580553542
i have less experience with banilla in general but i'm fairly confident those retards would fail in naxx if not AQ and pre nerf mags filtered a shitload of retards in tbc 2, ofc i was playing rogue and couldn't get in a real guild so i ended up killing it before the rogues guild on a shitty alt
sad stuff
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>hardcore players in my group playing at a blazing speed of 1 APM, doing 30 dps and dying to poison clouds in mara
>they all have 50g petris for some reason
yeah nope fuck this. era players need to be studied.
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>>580554402
the 4chan classic guild cleared naxx40, i dont know about in tbc or wotlk though
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>>580554751
>self reporting retail tourist who skipped professions
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Retail and Classic+ will have its own separate new content releases going forward because Blizzard doesn't want you to cancel your sub. Normally players will play retail when there is new content but after a couple months they unsub until the next big patch. Classic+ will be the bridge in between so more players will just keep their sub going indefinitely. Also I expect Classic+ to have a lot of modern elements to attract as many retail players as possible.
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>>580554971
You will NEVER make me play retoilet
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>>580555192
its too hard for you, we know
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>>580554971
putting retoilet features in Classic will just make Classic players not play it
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>>580555391
they ate up sod
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>>580555391
Seasonal buck boys have put up with level boosts, shop mounts, retail seasonal design, retail spells in sod

Buck boys will slurp up any poopoo that they put out
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>>580554907
>he thinks i want to spend hundreds of hours competing with bots for the chance to do dungeons with geriatric braindead players as filler until classic+
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>>580555192
>We don't have a whole lot of crossover between both games.
i don't believe that but maybe i live in a bubble, idk
i also think they've never made an attempt to do releases with enough of a buffer between major updates to encourage that crossover either tho
this shit started back during shadowlands launch dropping like a week after naxx or some shit like that, anni tbc launched like three weeks before shitnight
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>>580554971
Yes, the whole point of camelot is to make a retail from temu so that toilet players can swap between two versions of retail depending on which has a new patch going currently.

Seasonal buck boys will deny it, close their eyes and keep living in delusion.
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guys c+ will be totally ethically monetized.
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>>580555391
This isn't as true as you think it is. Though classic players tend to not touch retail the opposite is less true. I expect retail players to at least try Classic+ and some of them will even stick around.
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>>580555591
>he admits it again

keep dancing, puppet
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SoD banned GDKP. Was this to right call or should it come back for Classic+?
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>>580555697
What's wrong with this? that includes the base game plus the dlc
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>>580555697
There's nothing wrong with this
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WoD in a 1 year timeline leading to Legion
>Highmaul 2 months
>BRF 4 months
>HFC 4 months
Please I want to play Legion again ;_;
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me and the boys riding our deluxe pre order ultimate hero package bear mounts to the new mythic+ gay centaur dungeon to get the best transmog sets for our skyborne deathknight and ogre demon hunters, we sold some tokens to afford the best consumes

#Camelothype
#TotallyNotRetail
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>>580555950
ruined the pug scene for both SoD and anniversary servers, they should bring it back if they want ploos to succeed
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>>580555454
sod flopped bigly albeit
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>>580555950
Needs to be banned only because it keeps the thirds from eating meals and eventually dying
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>>580555950
nothing wrong with gdkp in theory
it gets obscene when the developer doesn't bother to police botting and rmt
the only people that whine about it are morons that expect their guild mates to run mc 52 weeks a year to get their garr binding
fuck 'em
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>>580556253
People pugged soft res groups just fine in SoD.
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>>580556437
soft res is a dogshit system for dogshit players
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>>580556253
SOD was easily pugged. Get your thirdie shit out of here.
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No Ming, I will not RMT with you, I will not pay for your boosts, I will not play in your GDKP's, and I will play ploos.
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she says as she pre orders the deluxe package and five tokens so that she can buy the best barbie dress for her skyborne ogre demonhunter

#plushype
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>>580556661
delete this before chang has a melty
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Sneedvun status?
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What if they released a single player version of vanilla?
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>rmt to 60
>rmt consumables
>rmt raid loot

whats the point?
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>>580556962
Raiding and pressing your buttons. The only thing they didn't pay for in your made up scenario is a pilot.
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>>580535273
I noticed this too, they went from

>there is no pre order deluxe package
>okay there is one and its a good thing
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>>580556956
already exists
https://github.com/celguar/spp-classics-cmangos
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>>580556962
This is why WoW needs to add penalties for dying. You won't buy gold if you lose it all after dying.
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>>580557087
its not a made up scenario, a large chunk of classic players were buying boosts and gold to gdkp raid
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>>580557292
Hardcore players still buy gold when there are penalties for dying unless they're self found, which nobody plays because they cannot RMT
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>>580557531
They just give the gold to their alts when they go raiding. Make it so you can only have one character.
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>>580556865
this chang is korean flavored
I repeat, Ji-won. You can give the indo's your mothers disability check, I will play ploos. I will not RMT. You will stay in Era. I will not participate in GDKP's. Your party chat will be in spanish. I will enjoy myself. You will stay in Era.
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classic needs UIM. no banking, no trading
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>>580535453
l0l, they are like abused women who stay with the same guy and make excuses for him
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>>580557740
its in the game already and nobody plays it. it flopped.
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>k*dis samefagging his nigger-tier posts
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>>580556865
Too late
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Here's how you fix WoW:
>level loss on death (each death ramps up the levels lossed, up to 10)
>durability can not be repaired, broken gear is lost permanently
>make it so that there is no clean delineation between which zones are high level and which ones are low level
>rework threat, healing spells and abilities generate higher amounts of threat than damaging spells and abilities
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>>580555692
this could be it
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>>580555950
You can avoid it by literally just joining a Guild and playing with a group like you're supposed to, lone wolf pugtards deserve to suffer.
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>>580558402
I called him out yesterday for samefagging his posts all exactly 90s from each other so now he's waiting l0l
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Lets add a reborn system that allows you to start the same character from level 1 and on the first reborn you get the silver dragon portrait and on the 2nd reborn you get the golden elite portrait.
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>>580559017
Make it so that you need to prestige to unlock each row of talent points.
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>>580559017
A cod prestige system in wow would be neat. What would happen to your armor and weapons?
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https://www.twitch.tv/cinderlee
https://www.twitch.tv/cinderlee
https://www.twitch.tv/cinderlee

coombros we're here
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>>580555957
>>580556101
the game+dlc costs $3 more than just the dlc.
the dlc costs more than half the base game.
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prestige sends you back to level 1, but you lose all your items and you gain 0.5% increased damage every time you hit 60 again
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>>580559327
Looking
I feel bad for this girl because she's clearly tomboyish but troons have ruined that for her so lots of people will assume she's a troon for not being conventionally feminine.
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>>580559237
I think its fine that it just gets sent to your mailbox. But you could also make it more crazy with a total wipe.
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>>580559376
It's maybe $5 overpriced. If that bugs you wait for a sale.
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>>580560114
A total wipe would be insane. Maybe if you did that you could get some sick heritage armor or something.
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>>580559017
Ascension had prestige and also trials you could take which gave some cosmetics, titles etc if you challenging ones
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>>580558449
the issue with that is the tank would be worthless healing already generates a good amount of threat and in classic there isnt really aoe taunting or threat. for instance on my shaman i typically run in with the tank and melee drop magma and other totems and just spam chain heal shamans are bulky enough where they can take hits its and interesting concept for sure
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one more sleep until total doomtranny death
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>>580559327
good find
that girl is legitimately gorgeous
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we are here

https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
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>>580559327
>>580559682
>>580561046
She's the type of girl that has the silly innocent thing going but secretly she's wearing a thong and a butt plug and trims her pussy hair in a cute way.
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>>580559327
hate these type of glasses but not bad
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https://www.twitch.tv/dolphina
https://www.twitch.tv/dolphina

found one raiding in mop. how do we feel about her?
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>>580562496
Michelle Trachtenberg?
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>>580562496
based coomer bro. love you man. hope you're in the ploos generals with fresh links.
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>>580562496
bobs
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>>580552261
most people live with their parents now
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>>580553792
>40 minutes
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>ctrl-f "retail"
>30 results
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alex status?
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>>580559017
This but go one step further and add additional talent points/racials as reward like in DDO :)
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>>580562940
lol
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>>580563709
I can get you 1 spirit per rebirth boy.
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>>580540124
True
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>>580562496
she seems absolutely insane. she wants to be a booba streamer but why aren't her boobs out? she even has breedable in her tags, like... no link to x or ig either. her donation thing is her pretending to deepthroat a massive cock. fucking batshit crazy fake whore.
I have literally no idea what her ethnicity is either. spanish and asian?
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Good morning, /wowcg/

Plus bros, vibe check?

Any leaks from the show floor yet?
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2 more sleeps bros...
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>>580563993
Kino
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>>580564720
we are doing mythic+ boosts on retail to save up battle.net balance for the deluxe hero ultimate pack and tokens.
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>>580564674
I'm not sure about the current meta but you had to hide those links before, maybe using a seperate url like linktree
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>>580563679
vanished
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>>580563709
rebirth = full wipe start from level 1
you can start as another race and get to keep previous races (passive) racials

so you can start as orc, reborn as tauren and have hardiness as tauren
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>>580564810
she has !socials in the title, you just can't link to of directly, you can still link x and ig. it's just of and similar that need indirect links.
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>>580564720
nothing yet anon, it's supiciously quiet. haven't seen leaks for much of anything really. hoping tomorrow we get something good
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The fact that there is no leaks kinda confirms how garbage it is. No one even feels the need to be the cool guy that leaks it cause its so shit its just no worth it.
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>>580565142
its been leaked, its just mixed in with the fake leaks
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>>580565410
All the leaks have been awful.
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>>580565503
youll buy it and play if for a month
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>>580555950
GDKP is purely bad and have not a single positive quality
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Post yfw Classic+ is revealed to be a Turtle wow port
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>>580565410
all the leaks are nothing but mega dog shit garbage so that does not really help
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>>580565602
Negative. I carry thirdies for profit.
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How are you guys going to go about looking for a guild for Classic+? If it's retail-, I'm already at a massive disadvantage by only ever playing Classic and TBC. I didn't even play Wrath, Cata or MOP. I'm pretty sure they're going to make a heroic and normal version of each raid, am I just fucked?
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>>580559376
>unemployed behavior
truly a wowcg poster...
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>>580565801
ill join the ploos 4chan guild
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>>580565571
I don't play retail servers. I'll stay on era and hardcore.
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>>580565661
i fucking wish, that's literally all I want
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>>580565801
Noone will care, just be upfront and willing to learn.
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>>580565142
grim... doomgods were right. I guess it makes perfect sense considering everything else they have done having been shit as well.
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>>580565801
Just join the designated 'cord for the realm you pick and and find a guild. Millions will be playing.
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This leak is mundane enough to be probably true
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>>580564720
Nothing yet bro, hopefully tomorrow.
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>>580566065

You may not like it, but this is increasingly becoming the most likely scenario. This was posted a while ago and this guy hasn’t been contradicted by the data miners once.
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>>580566031
>hat indoors
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>>580565797
Thirdies being carried is a bad thing
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>>580566065
What’s the point of posting stuff that has already been disproven by data mining?
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>>580566065
>retail baby take on classic+

kk..
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>>580565661
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>>580566172
why are they so insistent on tauren paladin and not undead paladin?
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>>580566360
>not 14:88
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>>580566172
this is the one.
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>>580566172
this was debunked already
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>>580566172
by the way everything this fat fuck said in this >>580553792 video is also in this mmo-champion post which means it's true so that he can point to his video next week and say LOOK DOOD THEY'RE DOING LITERALLY EVERYTHING RIGHT IT'S LITERALLY EVERYTHING I WANTED
CLASSIC+ HYPE! CLASSIC+ HYPE!
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>>580565661
as lazy as that would be, they wont be putting that much effort into it
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>>580566614
Please anon quit samefagging about that irrelevant slob, nobody cares
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yeah.. finna want another era server. make it fresh, all this talk of plus just ain't it
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>>580566609
No, not really. But feel free to post proof.
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>>580566065
if even 5% of that is real its dog shit and not worth trying
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>>580538558
remove 90% of the passive buff totems and add stronger/interesting but shorter uptime or cd totems
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>>580566172
I was hoping for more, but this would make sense since they really haven't been working on this for long
SoD only ended a year and some months ago
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>>580566172
This feels so soulless. Doesn’t even come close to Turtle WoW.
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>>580566172
The funny thing is that this is so terrible that its probably real. Seasonal boys will slurp it up.
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>>580566031
oh boy another fat balding "content creator" actually disgusting. you type classic plus into youtube it's obese monsters all over.
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>>580566951
>fatshaming in 2026
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>>580567027
nothing more disgusting than a fat piece of garbage
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>>580555950
sod banned gdkp during a time when everyone was lvl 25 it was necessary because it takes less than 3 hours to get a new character to lvl 25. there were people doing 10+ gdkps a day
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>type classic wow in youtube
>nothing but fats or swarthy grifters
GRIM
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>>580566951
who do you think the target audience for this is?
30 year old americans.
it's amazing they're still that small in their 30s.
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>>580565142
100% this
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Any chance of new classes? or at least classic reimagining of DK and DH?
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>>580565142
they're just trying to surprise you. It's wholesome.
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>>580567351
that's dlc.
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>>580567027
>unironically using "fatshaming"
you're unwell, it's an illness. it's a legitimate illness. thirdie behavior.
>>580567210
no wonder they made the kul tirans.
>muh fat body inclusivity
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Alexensual runs this general
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new react to a react slop just dropped
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>>580567351
The idea is that its retail from temu that will run parallel to the actual toilet. When toilet has no current content, temu will drop a patch so toilet boys keep swapping between the two and not unsub.

This in mind its certain that toilet classes will be flushed into temu version over time.
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As a returning player who quit during wrath, should i play classic tbc or just go to retail?
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>>580568253
you can always play ERA (classic vanilla)
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Warcraft Retold
Or as it might otherwise be called: WoW FOMO, or Scarab Lord EXTREME
It’s not Classic+ though it’s based around Classic design philosophy
It will have expansions
However there’s practically not going to be any new zones or locations never seen in WoW
It’s retelling the story starting from the Second War
And instead of expanding outward like normal expansions, most expansions will revamp areas as the story progresses
Places like Kalimdor, Outland (when it shatters), and Northrend will surely be added but they’re not NEW to the game, they’re based on the same zones from those expansions
For example, orcs originally will start in occupied Stormwind as their capital. Which will move to Blackrock, and then eventually a Frostwolf camp in Alterac until Thrall settles Durotar.
You’ll be able to see over the course of expansions Lordaeron evolve from a human city, to the home of the first paladins, to devolving from the plague, to completely Scourged, to the new home of the Forsaken
Here’s where the FOMO comes in though
Not only will the places, dungeons, and raids and what not be changed to the point that they’re practically gone, but so will races, classes, and rewards
Want to look like a knight of Lordaeron? Better do the right things as an Alliance player before the city falls, so after it does people know you were there for those events
Want to be an Alliance High Elf? Better make one before Quel’thalas falls
Want to have armor appearances that show people that you were one of the FIRST paladins or the first death knights? Make them early, or in the case of death knights make them before they’re temporarily disabled at character creation (before they’re turned into third generation DKs and become available cross-faction)
See Ironforge change from a capital city, to a battleground, to a raid, and back into a city
Run the dungeon to close the Dark Portal, or the raid to help push back against the scourging of Quel’thalas
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>>580568253
wait until blizzcon. depends on how soon whatever is being cooked drops. in the interim i would say try out tbc anniversary
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>>580568253
Both are short term seasonal games where all your progress is wiped out every few months. The recommended version to play is classic ERA or Hardcore.
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Classic+ should have crossfaction chats
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>>580568436
>>580568415
>>580568312
Didn't realize tbc progress would be deleted. Cheers guess ill play vanilla
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>>580568253
Classic ERA - PvE cluster

Mankrik - NA
Pyrewood Village - EU

Toilet crusade is getting flushed soon and retail is not even worth talking about
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>>580568537
Get on Era and then do this
>>580568780
Live trade chat. Go to your favorite WoW gold buying site then pay any of the indo's to boost you to 60. Then buy some more gold to get into GDKP's.
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>>580568780
delet this
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>>580568780
crazy how raiders in 2005 had to farm their own consumes
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What's the point of buying gold? Isn't the grind the main point of classic?
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>>580565142
Yeah this is it. Every time there was something remotely cool to leak it always happened. Even toilet dragons couldn't be kept a secret.

What would you even leak? the price of the deluxe pre order pack?
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>>580569227
A curious dilemma isn't it anon. The grind is the game... yet they will spend money outside the game, to buy money inside the game, so they can... not play the game. The niller is a curious creature indeed.
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>>580569227
Retail players are used to buying everything for real money so they keep doing it when they come and try our game. You can even see it now with Camelot where they are actively letting us know how much they love the fact that they can buy a pre order pack for 89,99$+tip.
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>>580568780
>people are unironically shilling this shit ITT
era is a containment server
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herb and alch is the way to go
one hour of farming can get you enough herbs to craft a dozen stacks of raid consumes thatll last months
or you can buy gold
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>>580557963
it do be like dat, buck boys are a bit "special"
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Reminder that 1 plooser can destroy 100 nillers 100,000 Anniversaryiers 1 million retoileters and 1 billion moppies
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>>580569860
that bottom post is the most based thing i've ever read
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>>580569935
Do they compare who can buy the most shop mounts?
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>>580569860
Yeah, the psychology is super fascinating though.
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>>580569860
Sung-min quit samefagging. I WILL NOT RMT. I WILL NOT BUY YOUR BOOST. I WILL NOT BE IN YOUR GDKP. You will stay in the containment server known as Era.
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>>580566172
Grim.. what a piece of shit if even a tiny minority of that post is true.
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1. Turtle*
2. Classic
3. Legion
4. Season of Discovery
5. The Burning Crusade
6. Warlords of Draenor
7. Wrath of the Lich King
8. Mists of Pandaria
9. Battle for Azeroth
10. Dragonflight
11. Cataclysm
12. Epoch*
13. The War Within
14. Midnight
15. Ascension*
16. Shadowlands

*If there were NA-only realms
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they are shutting down era for classic+
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>>580557963
we went from

>Camelot is classic+ !! we finish vanilla by giving paladins taunt and add a few things, we're going home guys!

to

>Not only are deluxe pre order packages, tokens, microtransaction a good thing. I will actually buy all of them multiple times! Warlock tanks? umm based, we loved SoD.

its one of the strangest things I've witnessed.
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>>580570540
That's fine, I don't need to be torn between two versions of WoW when it's not even my only MMO
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>>580570507
tranny moment
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2382520/Erenshor/
login
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>>580570562
once you realize the majority of "camelot" audience are made up of retail players and retail from temu (tbc-mop) it all makes sense very quickly.
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>>580570507
i'll never understand turtle dickriding. i played it for a few months. i even raided and every single person on voip was some turd wordler who barely spoke english.
the custom changes were also terrible. they added new bosses to molten core and the loot wasnt even good, it just made the raid take even longer when we're only there for rag loot
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>>580570540
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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>>580570749
also the new boss has an out of place giant boss room for some reason
dont forget that
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Predicting that camelot will be dog shit is like predicting that your alcoholic uncle will get wasted on the weekend.
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>>580570749
>only cares about loot
That's your problem
I agree the browns are enough to make you quit, thus the asterisk
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>>580570882
what else is there to care about? your poorse?
nobody cares about the journey
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>>580570969
I do
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>>580570969
I care
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Now that its confirmed that there is no ploosie and we're only getting a lite version of toilet.

What are your plans? Time to move on with WoW altogether? I personally will keep playing Hardcore casually.
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I hope they make casters fun in C+. I fucking hate 3 second casts and 0 crit & haste scaling on dots.
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>>580570882
its an rpg, anon. if you think it doesnt funnel into watching your stats go up, you are in denial
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>>580571089
just play warrior/rogue instead of trying to change my class.
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>>580570749
>surprised a f2p no box price game is full of thirdies
GIVE ME A BOX PRICE FOR PLOOS
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>>580571238
Do you do drugs in between fireballs or something? 3 second casts are egregious.
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>>580571089
yea. its insane that casters dont feel good to play until fucking cata
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>>580571070
I'll play it just for money. Made nearly 40k with SoD, the game was dog shit but the moneys good.
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I can confirm, classic+ is indeed being made for you!
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>>580571070
When I saw the datamined MTX I never thought about it again, started on Mankrik playing healer for the first time. Also playing other games.
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you know what would be better than classic+ in every way? wotlk-
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>>580572252
WOTLK without the dungeon finder misstep then? Sounds good.
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>>580572252
Sounds good, no dungeon finder.

But Classic+ sounds more interesting to be compwetewy honest.
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>>580572252
retail already exists and you can play it right now.
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>>580572651
>>580572527
dungeon finder is a good thing.
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>>580572527
>>580572651
no vehicles
no retarded ending
no naxxramas
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>>580535273
>dungeon finder is a good thing.

add it to the list
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>>580571467
how?
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>>580573065
running 20 accounts and selling gold for $2/1000g
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>>580572252
>>580572527
>>580572651
>>580572876
>unironic retail enthusiasts in cg
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i know its not - but they scrapped an entire azjolnerub zone and maybe raid for wotlk imagine just how well remembered wotlk could be with 1 more actual raid
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>>580573065
play other peoples accounts for money. Mostly leveling. You could also farm and sell gold.
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>>580573173
Retail and Camelot have the same audience.
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>>580558316
SF is a great idea in theory but it makes a huge pain in the ass for target dummies to fish leather, and having no sharpening stones, etc

which could be fine, but then you also can get ony buff, rend, zg, which makes the challenge no big.

A C+ Self-Found with HC, or better yet a "guild found" flag would be ideal.
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>1 fp
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SoD being less popular than Cata Classic is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen
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>>580573416
SSF would be excellent IF they let you pick up all of the professions at the same time. I would unironically level a hardcore character if that were the case.
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average dwarf male hunter enjoyer

https://www.twitch.tv/tinythaigirl
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>>580573821
This chick had porn. Looks like she managed to get it scraped.
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>>580573265
>expecting people that believe that when you can buy gold and boost to 60 for 30 dollars
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this fucking guy has such a dogshit playlist.
is he even camping the bots anymore? how does he still have viewers?
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>>580573868
I love jungle Asians, tiny & tight & eager to serve
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>>580574037
paladins watch anything
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>>580574008
Believe what you want. Couldn't care less.
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>>580544008
I never played SoD so if it sucks I wont play this one either. I'm addicted to WoW, not funserver tier shit.
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>>580574227
Based, seasonal buck boys can have their sloppa.
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this fucking goy is playing on a xbox kinect.
https://www.twitch.tv/vanityprojects
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>>580569860
Btfo'ed on the last post
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>>580574381
stolen idea
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>>580574381
Humiliation ritual.
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>>580574381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FDlpvcPog
Kino coming through.
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>>580574227
>if it sucks

Its already confirmed to suck. Pre order packs and MTX cash shop items were datamined. Only retail boys are looking forwards to it.
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>>580574629
>>580574629
Name an mmo without that. Go on.
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yellow fever gang...

https://www.twitch.tv/xyzoomi
https://www.twitch.tv/xyzoomi
https://www.twitch.tv/xyzoomi
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>>580574582
dis nigga zesty
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>>580574697
classic ERA (world of warcraft)
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>>580574721
>gnome fem

I will give it the based certification
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>>580574721
what the hell, youre sick
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>>580574697
>Name an mmo without that. Go on.

World of Warcraft Classic ERA
World of warcraft Classic Hardcore
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>>580575640
daily reminder that classic+ is NOT made for you
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>>580575941
Yeah no shit, I have no interest in playing retail.
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>>580570749
Its really mind boggling people think that anyone but the original devs would be able to expand upon vanilla. I'm convinced its desperation to get old school WoW back which will never happen.
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>>580576065
This. But also it doesn't matter because any product they make will come with a pre order package, level boosts, token, mtx, cash shop etc.
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>>580575640
You're wrong.
Vanilla had the pre-order collectors edition that let you summon in-game pets. Along with the TCG cards that you get a turtle mount, more ingame pets and tabards

ALL in 1.12 or earlier, they're also obtainable in ERA and HARDCORE
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>>580574629
Preorder packs for rewards for retail you retard
No MTX was found
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>>580576317
tcg cards came in TBC stupid nigger.
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>>580576362
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Riding_Turtle
1.12 is classic you stupid nigger
You're so brown just end it all already
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>>580576334
Whatever gets you through the night, lilgup.
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>>580576317
>they're also obtainable in ERA and HARDCORE

Wrong again, only the pet from the physical collectors box can be redeemed on era.
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>>580576317
Lmao rekt
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>>580576694
Vanilla still had MTX and preorder bonuses at the end of the day.

PLUS HYPE
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>>580576793
They have to go back 22 years and they're still wrong lmfao
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>>580576334
You had a hero ultimate package with a shop mount and level boosts on every version of retail from temu from tbc to mop and think that camelot will be any different?
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>>580576841
Never said that
I said you're wrong

>Trump killed kids!!!
No he didn't
>Yeah but he raped them so... you don't think he raped them???
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>>580576793
Wrong again, there was no pre order pack or bonus. There was a physical collectors edition box you could buy that gave you the game and a cosmetic pet.

If you're trying to argue that's even remotely comparable to to buying an instant level boost, shop mounts, token and other stuff I will gladly watch and get a laugh.
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>>580576925
>Trump out of nowhere

Testaments.
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>>580577089
So your example is from 22 years ago. Very telling that you have to go that far back.
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>blizzard announces a physical copy of classic+ at blizzcon that comes with exclusive mount and cosmetic pet
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>>580576317
>obtainable in ERA and HARDCORE

The only thing you could in theory get is that collectors box pet if you found a box where the code was not used back in 2004 and were willing to pay thousands for it.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/23090136?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Q: Can I use my World of Warcraft Trading Card Game codes in WoW Classic?
A: Codes from the TCG won’t be usable in WoW Classic.
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>>580577512
how would a wow token and level boosts come from a physical box? or race changes, name changes?
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>>580577901
redeemable voucher on the inside of the box, or tie them all into the single key itself
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>>580577901
Code 1 = 5 wow tokens
Code 2 = Level boost
Code 3 = Free mount
Code 4 = Race & Faction change (10 charges)
Code 5 = 5 Realm transfers
Code 6 = Barbie house decoration pack
Code 7 = Transmog set
Code 8 = Hearthstone Animation
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>>580578190
>real transfers
>xhe thinks there will be multiple realms
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if cameltoilet really comes with tokens and level boosts our only hope is "Hardcore whats next" that could be interesting, possibly, maybe.
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>>580578371
hardcore whats next stage will be sodapoppin promoting his guild
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>>580578371
>if
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Why didnt they ever release TBC HC anyway? I thought that was the original plan.
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>>580578371
The early access deluxe pack was datamined already. 3 Day head start, shop mount, transmog sets for retail, mount for retail etc.

Its increasingly looking like they wanna make a lesser version of retail where the two games work in tandem together with cross promotions to keep you subbed and hopping between the two. Retail- no plus.
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>>580578804
I thought they did but no one played it? not sure though. I remember it being announced kinda?
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im famous on nightslayer for my world pvp
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>>580578419
did they ever get past BWL?
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>>580579249
i dont watch streamers
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>>580578804
oops i stepped on a mine in blood furnace, guess its back to northshire haha
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>>580574582
Actually kinda cool.
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I'm glad we are finally getting Classic"+" and whe. the fans end up being so dramatically disappointed in it finally shut the fuck up about it. I've only ever gave a shit about Classic-Wotlk and I have no idea where these retards crying for a classic+ ever came from. No one with 2 brain cells to rub together believes modern blizzard is capable of expanding on any of the original game. TBC first go around proved it, SoD proved it and if those didnt already FUCKING RETAIL and every other game modern Blizzard has under their belt these days proves it. Bunch of fucking idiots crying out for something that will never exist because: the original devs are gone and aren't coming back. Any concept art and ideas they had were unfinished or bad which is why it never made it into the game. What new thing will they bitch for next?
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>>580579878
okay lil doomy
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blizzcon when
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>>580579878
ok nerd
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>>580581027
36 hours anon.... soon.... where the FUCK are my leaks at.
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>>580581478
wtf thats so many hours
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>>580581559
2 more sleeps
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>>580579354
Yet you know their names and that they have a guild, curious.
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cuwious
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>>580581968
you'd learn a lot reading this thread let alone social media
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>>580579878
You have to understand that seasonal boys loved SoD, they love TBC, they loved Wrath. They love pre ordering deluxe champion packages and then riding on their shop mounts after level boosting a class. This is what they want, literally. They are retail players wanting a retail game and they will get it.

We are not the target audience, they are.

We will not play it, they will.
>>
36 hours left bros
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what if wow 2 is more furry than wow 1
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>>580582103
is that u in the pic?
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>>580582272
im not furry but i lived through the 90s and 2000s so i can still play as them
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>>580582336
none of our trannys are that ugly
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We did him back before blizzcon bros. How will I know what to think of classic+ without him.
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Total samefag death
Total doomtranny death
Alexensual owns this thread
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>>580583034
idk hes gotta come out of the woodwork, right?
he can't help himself
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WoW: Horizontal
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>classic+ is not for you
What does this even mean?
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>>580583146
its just a phrase to make you click the video
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>>580583146
its not for erapiggies and browns
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>>580583146
its not for the mazed rats who only a fresh only to boost to 60 and raid mc for 6 months before asking for a new fresh
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>>580583146
it's not being built for people playing era. it's for the 50-100million lifetime unique subscribers that have ever played wow and to reel them back in.
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>>580583063
his wrists are tiny jeez
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>>580583146
are you a retail player? then its for you
if you are not a retail player its not for you
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>>580583407
Explain please
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>>580583407
Retail players despise Classic.

Whether it's Era, HC, TBC, WotLK, MoP, or private servers, they dislike them all.
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>>580583772
>citation needed
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what if there is no classicploos?
what if it's all a ruse
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>Classic plus needs this!
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>>580583970
idk but in a fair world every youtuber who made videos about plus would be put to death or at least forced to leave the internet
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>>580583146
it's not for classic players.
it's not for retail players.
it's for people who don't play wow.
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my bussi is ready for plussi
>>
Its not Classic+
Its not Warcraft Forever
Its not Warcraft Fables

Its just Wow. not an acronym, just wow
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>>580583608
ctrl-f buck, retail, or seasonal and you'll find his explanation. shouldn't be hard to find, it's half the thread. he's our special little schizo
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>>580584145
so it is for me
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Why does Ion post on /wowg/ but not on /wowcg/?
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https://youtu.be/VQGkIDiQfR4
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>>580583608

>>580535453
>>580535854
>>580539570
>>580557963
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>>580584420
he hates consumes and worldbuffs even wrote a big blog about it back in 2006
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>classic+ is basically retail wow but much easier
This is for me
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>>580583772
tbc-mop is retail though, only vanilla is classic.
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tbc was my first wow
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i take it back, this game is fun
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TBC already finished and perfected the vanilla classes. each spec is usable and fills a niche. i'm not sure what changes people would really want for a classic+ that wouldn't just be some SoD retail-lite bullshit
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were rolling the pirate faction
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>>580585086
we want tbc but without the stinky outlands
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>>580585215
>>580585086
TBC reality check can be found here

>>580549673
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>>580585494
oh yea we dont want arenas either
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>>580585215
that's fair. TBC without outlands and gay ass flying mounts sounds good, but i don't know how many people would agree.
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>>580584425
I hate this fat ass nigga.
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>>580585032
>warriors need world buffs just to level
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>>580585086
tbc classes races professions, but in vanilla.
the only other change I would accept is wotlk racials.
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>>580585662
a private server tried this recently and shut down as it opened because the servers were overloaded.
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2 years of camelslop before we get another fresh
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>>580586017
>sung-min, amir, chang, nguyen, boris all playing era foreverandeverandeverandeverandever
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>>580586017
Why in the world would you want to play vanilla again from the start?
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>>580586151
i wouldnt. farming molten chore for months is a waste of time
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>>580586151
fresh is a palate cleanser and good for the sould
t.oilet
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>>580586151
gold is at it's highest price on fresh servers. he has families to feed
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>>580585662
i think it would be pretty popular and desu i dont think normies like outland very much either but im not sure
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>>580586017
you can start fresh on era whenever
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>>580586151
its fun
>>
Warcraft: Chronicles
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>>580572252
It has flying toilets so nah
>>
<season of slaughter>

>pvp enabled everywhere
>when you kill a player you get all their items and gold
>HC permadeath
>dungeon mobs don't give xp
>you can only attack people inside your bracket
>brackets 1-9 10-19 and so on
>killing a player gives 10% total experience of total level
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>>580587485
just - the flying toilets
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>Classic+
>WoW 2
>WoW Forever
>WoW Eternal
Whatever they are calling it is basically retail lite. The dungeons and raids will be easier and your rotation will be simple. Basic conveniences are duel spec will be in. At best there won't be dungeon finder and flying mounts.
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>>580587582
that's probably the worst post in this thread and somebody posted mixxy leaks earlier.
fix your shit.
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>>580586151
You wouldn't get it.
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>>580587736
scared?
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>>580587582
desu the brackets are too big it needs to be like 4 lvls
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>>580587812
Nah but you're underage, full loot pvp MMOs are sub 500 players for a reason. Funnily enough they discourage real pvp and everyone just gangs up and fights 100v1 using vendor gear so you don't lose anything. Some of the saddest gameplay imaginable really.
>>
I think picking up an herb should give 1% XP
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What if Classic+ has no factions and you can do everything together with everyone like in other MMOs?
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honestly that leak where it says its after the dark portals closed and kalimdor isnt in the picture and the orc base is in alterac mountains would be kino
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What if classic+ was reskinned gw2?
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>>580588168
Can we take the jumping puzzles and slutmogs and leave everything else?
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>>580588114
every race and class should have a different starting reputation and this should feed into a player enforced faction system by making it so you get bounty rep for killing players who are hostile to the rep if you are friendly to said rep
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What is the best case scenario? The worse case?
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>>580588705
this sounds good
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>>580588705
oh no AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Will Classic+ have world buffs? I mean the ones that work in raids.
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>>580588952
does retail have them? then no.
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The Age of Men will return.
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>>580588952
no instead they are just going to make the game feel good unbuffed
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>>580588705
I imagine one is just the standard game and the other is 3-5 days early access with like a pet or something insiginificant.
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>>580589316
>3-5 days EA
>Insignificant
This shit should be illegal in an MMO, cancer.
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>>580589316
it will start with a deluxe pre order package that gives an early start, then when the toilet boys have been fooled in and are too invested to leave, its time for token, level boost and the rest
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>people saying the game might be set during Arthas' time
I feel like youtubers are being intentionally retarded. The horde would literally only be Orcs. Darkspear and Tauren are stuck on Kalimdor, which isn't even something explored yet during that time period, Orcs are still all on EK. Undead also wouldn't be around because the Forsaken came post Arthas' Sunwell slaying and spawning Sylvanas. Alliance also wouldn't have nelves.

It would be cool to be set in that time, but how would it even work?
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>>580589421
I meant insignifcant bonus pet, as in probably won't be a mount or transmog set or anything actually important. Early Access is cancer though
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>>580589480
>It would be cool to be set in that time, but how would it even work?

You go through the WC3 campaign, but in WoW. So eventually Camelot brings you to Kalimdor
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>>580589316
>>580589421
do they do early access? like in retail or whatever
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>>580589480
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>>580589665
Yes
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>level cap of 30 to appease dad gamers with 3 wives and 5 jobs
Yep it's a flop already.
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>>580590115
Grim.... it just keeps getting worse
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>>580589968
and if it were to be just orcs/gnome/elf/dwarf you offer a free race change whenever the future content adds other races
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What does your perfect Classic+ look like? For me it would be a mix of WoW and OSRS but I can't imagine that ever happening. Though apparently GW3 will have a big emphasis on single player content.
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>>580589968
>Nigga is screenshotting chatgpt fanfic instead of just waiting til Saturday
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>>580590469
Take vanilla and finish it. Rebalance talent trees to buff shit specs make everything viable, new bg, new dungeons, nerf naxx/aq40 gear, buff dungeon gear, new dungeon loot, av stops granting honor at rank 6, no cash shop or mtx, re design set bonuses in places like molten core.

start with that.
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>>580590545
you wont be laughing when the chatgpt fanfic is what blizzard announces at blizzcon verbatim
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>>580589480
blizzard looked at the data and saw everyone really liked human and orc warrior so they removed everything else
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>>580578875
>Its increasingly looking like they wanna make a lesser version of retail where the two games work in tandem together with cross promotions to keep you subbed and hopping between the two. Retail- no plus.

many are saying this.
>>
>hey we wanna do classic+ but we will need more resources
>hmmm no
>what if we sold it instead of giving it out for free
>hmmm ok
this is how I'm coping
>>
>Retail exists
>Instead of playing it, invade Classic communities and try to corrupt the idea about a new Classic version

If Retail is good, why are you asking Blizzard for a new game? Just go and enjoy it. Classic+, as if it couldn't be more obvious, is for Classic players.
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>>580591428
them proving they can do things in sod allowed them to hire more people but they were working on c+ before sod.
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i LOVE the soul of classic+, and the leveling. which is why im using restedxp/guidelime/some other addon to level as fast as possible! go classic i love it
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>>580591915
same here, just let me get my white dagger with crusaders to make leveling just a bit more fun
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>>580592023
chad
>>
Why is TBC so fucking dogshit?
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>>580592242
players are filled with greed
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>>580592242

explained here:

>>580549673
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>>580549673
The original cryboomer.
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>>580592242
Flying toilets, shartrath, outlands (shitting street)
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>>580592023
>calls himself a casual but visits and posts on reddit
as if reddit isn't the most normalfag forum in the whole world
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>>580592485
cryboom that was dating and living with a 17 year old but nobody ever calls him a pedo
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>>580593043
American moment
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>>580593178
no hes a pedo
t german
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>>580593463
So you think a 17 year old has not gone through puberty?
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>>580593178
Americans are asleep.
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>>580556197
based cameltoilet enjoyer.
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>>580593561
i think youre a pedo too
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>>580593638
a gay pedo. he told me in discord
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>>580593638
look up what words mean before you use them, this way you can avoid embarrassing yourself.
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>>580593698
you and i know exactly what youre trying to do
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>>580593698
>unironically doing the ephebophilia meme
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>>580593698
NTA, and I understand what you mean, But the fact that you gave to be pedantic about definitions and irrelevant details tells me everything I need to know about how much of a creep you probably are.
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What is something from Classic+ you want but know you won't get?

For me, necromancer class. Followed closely by Ogres.
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>>580593934
playable kelthuzad
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>>580593791
>>580593836
>>580593769
If you disagree with the dictionary definition of a word or a term you can contact Oxford English Dictionary and ask them to change it for you. Surely you know better than them and they will listen.
>>
just ignore the bait
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>>580593934
Gay centaurs
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give streamers their own realm
if you stream outside of the streamer realm you break tos
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>>580593934
big titty orc women on my face
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>>580593934
for me it would be the reworked warcraft 1-3 era setting some people have been talking about. I would kill to have a wow like game with all of the wow setting and lore stripped completely out.
it seems astronomically unlikely to me that they will actually do that though simply because the development time required would be immense. I fully expect it to be the bone stock vanilla world with little new plot points and minor locations stapled on periodically.
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>>580594205
pve cluster fixes this.
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>>580551574
The Ashbringer isn't even in the top 3 Legion artifacts palachud.
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>>580549673
Meh, I have to disagree. The general issue is that there is datamining and any game is solved on day one basically. You either use that information or are left behind. And that is not exclusively an MMORPG problem although it's more pronounced to due to the multiplayer aspect.
How to solve this? No idea for playing with randoms. At best you can do something like path of exile private leagues with people you know and a honor system but honor system just don't work with randoms
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>>580594730
I forgot: you can also do something ala ascensions conquest of azeroth: make so much new shit that it takes a year to figure out the best while actively balancing everything all the time
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>>580594730
what does datamining have to do with flying toilets and designing the entire game to be about nothing but raids
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>>580593934
I dream of a melee mage spellblade spec
Would be so cool
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This time we're getting playable ogres for real, I swear we're getting them!
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>>580588778
That sounds too good to be true
>>
https://x.com/AlexFinn/status/2096391410048180334
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>>580595486
I don't get it
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>>580595737
A BA doesn't get doing things just because you enjoy it so he build a product he can sell that allows you to do the thing more efficiently
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>>580595737
he built an addon to talk to his clankers in game that are clanking for him instead of just pressing alt tab. incredible stuff
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>>580596463
>>580596170
that will be 40 trillion + tip
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piece of pussy having a meltie

https://www.twitch.tv/fasttalkingaussiegirl
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>>580549673
absolute truth nuke of a video
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>>580592023
Do one for the super racist, super homophobic, unemployed dps that tops the charts.
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>>580566172
>2 new raids, Scarlet Enclave from SoD reworked into a leveling raid at 40
how do you even go there at 40, who the fuck believes this babble
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>>580597467
many are saying this
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>>580597786
They could easily change it's location to somewhere beyond scarlet monastery
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>>580597786
like this
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Cameltoilet will flop bigly.
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>>580598210
damn look at all that empty space waiting for content
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>>580597786
At level 40, retard.
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Camelot OST has just leaked
https://youtu.be/okVbDDLzBzQ?is=jAHAeESHQoGBbNwQ
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>>580598217
you tried
>>
POO+
VERY STINKY
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classic+ but tbc never happened and it moves in a more old school runescape direction of additional content
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>>580599861
classic+ is... le turtle wow???
>>
classic+ but its just vanilla where they remove +healing and weapon skill from the game
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>>580600194
imagine turtle wow but people will be honest when they rate the content
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>>580599861
best we can do is a 70 dollar pre order pack with token and shop mount
>>
anyone playing horde on soulseeker? what the fuck is this population
why is there almost 2k ally and like 600 horde
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vanilla nochanges fresh?
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>>580598217
many are saying this
>>
>human, dwarf, gnome
vs
>night elf, high elf, idk elf
vs
>orc, ogre, tauren/troll

3 factions would be kino
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>>580601841
I already told you

you have to be alliance for salvation
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>>580594091
Were the reddit upvotes worth it?
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>>580602147
blizzcon surprise announcement dont give up hope
>>
NEVER CHEAT NEVER LIE VANILLA FRESH UNTIL I DIE
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really regret making female undead instead of male for this character
im glad classic+ is coming to save me
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fat dwarf tits will save classic+
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>>580602897
>undead with retail walking, running and casting animations

grim...
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>>580603126
they wouldnt do that
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>>580603254
Just like they wouldn't do a level boost, pre order hero package and token? oh wait that happened with every version of "classic" after nilla.
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Camelot is just going to be an app for IOS and Android that lets you view and decorate player houses in Retail. It's a reference to the phrase "a man's home is his castle".
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>>580583146
It means you goyim will take what you get
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>>580603426
huh are they going to add a lvl 10 boost
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>>580603674

see:

>>580589446
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>>580602530
but i want to be horde
last i played i was alliance
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>>580603462
Also a rework of WoD garrisons to use the housing mechanics from retail. Like it or not, WoD Classic is happening, because the entire point of Classic was to let people play old versions of the game.
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>>580604108
Fine for leveling but at 60 alliance does 30% less threat so on hc its pretty important.
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>>580556437
>>580556548
the pugs was "fine" because geared players had a reason to do older content for reals to get consumes/gold, in a game without those incentives what happens? look at anni for proof, where every mention of the pug scene is that it's in an abyssal state. also in p2 and p3 pugs were definitely not in a good state
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>>580603734
this makes it sound like the game has a big update planned down the line
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>>580602456
human dwarf high elf
orc tauren troll
blood elf forsaken naga
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>>580604303

see:

>>580578875
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>>580604303
and also see:

>>580554971
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>>580604208
true. also pve realms are always alliance heavy
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>>580604347
Nah, forsaken should be a neutral, NPC faction. It should be blood elves, illidari night elves and nagas.
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>>580604676
>Advocating for more no shoes motherfuckers
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>>580604208
what causes the less threat
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>>580604882
Making the third faction Illidan's forces lets you have three continents: Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms and Outland.
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>>580605046
paladin blessing
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>>580605046
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>>580605174
but do people really need to min max that much in a 300 year old game
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>>580605238
Reply chain is about Hardcore WoW which is only 3 years old.
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>>580605238
>if I overaggro my character is deleted
>why would people want to play the faction where threat is a non issue
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>>580605238
you might imagine why the need to minmax is more important on HC
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>>580605054
1. Too much work for blizzard
2. The factions are too established already, if you add a third one most people returning to the game are going to want to be the new faction. If they enforce faction balance many people miss out trying the new thing, if they don't enforce balance alliance and or horde end up dwarfed on most servers
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>>580605238
some people wont even lvl if they dont have ony buff
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literal retards who never played an mmo before played wow classic as horde and did all the content
the need to min max is our folly
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i just wanted to rp a troll shaman with my tauren warrior wife
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>>580605804
yes, but also you cant forget that pve realms are always 60%+ alliance
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Elwynn Forest is the most overrated starting zone.
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>>580605804
streamers are very skilled at video games.
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>>580605967
this is beyond 60%
1800 are ally and like 600 horde
is 600 horde playable? ive no clue
i think im just gonna play horde in hopes of not contributing to the problem
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>>580605541
>1
So?
>2
Convert most quest hubs to be neutral, so your faction doesn’t restrict you from doing the new stuff. People prefer the neutral hubs like Nessingwary's Camp or Gadgetzan anyhow.
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I just want some spec to lean into more a support type for classic plus.

Give me a verdict on how much cope or hope i should have
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>>580606107
>faction balance in pve server
who cares nibba?
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>>580606107
should be playable thats about how big servers used to be. plus on hc you get more new characters
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>>580606394
Picking the wrong faction makes finding groups harder.
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>>580606394
im just worried i wont find parties
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>>580606365
Didnt they even try to force a support role in retail recently?
I would say highly likely but others can chime in
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dun morogh is the best starting zone
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Would people would be happy if they reworked paladin and shaman into proper support roles or get assmad?
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RET PALADINS WILL DOMINATE PLUS
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I’d be happy if they gave me divine storm
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>>580607004
Paladins should tank by healing people.
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>>580607108
You getting more blessings and less aoe
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>>580607004
depends how they do it
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>>580606221
The quest hubs have nothing to do with faction imbalance. If you are going to let opposite factions share starting zones then wtf are we even doing at this point. Thats not remotely classic.
And point 1 only matters because we are talking about Blizzard here dude. One of the longest proven track records of lazyness in gaming history.
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>>580607421
Can you elaborate?
I mean it would be just double down on blessing/totems and stuff like that and more utility stuff no? Dont see any other way
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>>580607004
i would be happy
Priest and druid should be the pure healers, 4 healer classes are too much anyways imo
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crusader strike
avenging wrath
seraphim
divine storm
divine steed
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how come doomhowl is 50/50
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>>580607823
Nope
Blessing of great divine might
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>>580584680
Ion is based?
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>>580608123
True why would i play again a solved game i already played?
Remix and SoD were cool tho
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>>580607823
brown man can dream
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qt3.14 slampig dev who is also a better player than you (she speedran at a world level in SOD).
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>>580585086
While this is true, the community has this perception that unless you're a hunter, warrior or warlock, you're garbage and thus undeserving of loot. You can't fix this without completely reworking support classes to deal more damage or simply nerfing those aforementioned classes.
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>>580608123
Classic+ will be a good game like turtle was while classic is a bad game
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Are there any credible leaks?
most things on mmo champ sound like garbage to me but maybe im retarded.
all i want is ogres.
i feel like we should have got something concrete by now, like promo images or whatever from the floor.
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>in sod
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>>580606472
>>580606474
>They don't have crossfaction in instances
Yikes sorry I'm only giving blizz another chance because of plus but pservers already solved that issue long ago
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Gonna drop a tiny leak here
Alcaz island has been moved
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darkshore is S tier
westfall is B tier
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imagine being hyped for a seasonal toilet
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>>580608892
Nothing yet
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>>580608123
testaments, toilet boys do be like dat
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>>580609247
Mind you, these people loved SoD. They will love Cameltoilet as well.
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>>580609054
Just leak it all man
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Classic chuds, I want to pick a class that will guaranteed me a raid spot and allow me to grief people in open world PvP. That’s all I care about. Bonus if it has a Tank spec. I also want something that’s very easy to gear. I’m conflicted between Warlock (assuming it can tank) and Hunter (no tank, I know).


Any other suggestions? Everyone plays Rogue so I’m not feeling it. I’m also unsure about Paladin or Druid.
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>>580608892

see

>>580565142
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>>580609681
Go rogue bro
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>>580609681
Which version are you talking about?
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>>580609083
Yea
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>>580609861
Classic+ sorry brother
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>>580609892
how would we know what has a raid spot in a game that has not been revealed? or if warlock has a tank spec?

u smoking creck?
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>>580535160
>Almost half a million views
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>>580609681
Rogue is the best class for wpvp and griefing
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>>580609987
NTA, but you’re delusional at this point if you don’t think that Warlock will have a tank spec. That shit was more popular than Elvis for retail lite andys. Also bet your life on cross faction paladins and shamans as well as healing mages lmao.
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>>580610170
redridgeguy proves otherwise
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>classic+ main
For me it’s aryan fem orc warlock - pve server to avoid antisocial unhinged unemployed freaks
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>>580610360
I don't play retail servers so I have no idea if it was popular. But the buck boys will slurp up mage healers and rogue tanks of course.
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>>580609681
>Everyone plays Rogue
thats a good thing doebait
you know not joy until you start ganking fags with 3 other random rogues you just met
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>>580610390
I agree go hunter if you want to mainly gank lowbies
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does someone have a timer when the (relevant) wow annoucment can be expected to begin?= im waging so i need to know when to check
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>>580610360
Millions of players won’t play clsssic+ if they add retarded sod specs like lock tank, rogue tank, mage healer etc.
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>>580610885
billions even!
lmao delusional retard lmao
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>>580610885
I believe you, the world is full of retards like you after all.
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>>580610729
27 hours 50 minutes
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>>580610885
Cameltoilet is made for a retail audience, they loved SoD, they of course want mage healers and rogue tanks.
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>>580611527
Unironically what's wrong with this?
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>>580535273
>mage healers and rogue/warlocks tanks are actually a good thing

add it to the list
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honestly mage is already a class that does everything why should they be able to heal themselves
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>>580611623
It's a shit move on a hardcore server.
On a regular server this is fine
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>>580611527
damn thats some dedication
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>>580611527
this content is the only entertaining part of HC wow althougheverbeitever
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>>580611314
I also wouldn't play it.
Letting every class do everything is stupid and not classic.
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>>580611409
thanks friendo
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>>580535273
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so when are they going to anounce classic plus exactly at blizzcon? i dont wanna watch the other slop
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>>580611954
It creates danger.
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hordies will never know the constant threat of onyxia atunement
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27 hours until total doomtranny death
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>>580609247
It is sad to see. Reminds me of the time they were hyped for SoD.
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Paladins and Shamans should be able to tank.
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another reason alliance is played in HC is no shaman water walking
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I’d go as far as calling Elwynn Forest the worst starting zone
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>>580614153
Nice bait
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>tfw i started the "camelot is a timeline where arthas is a good guy" and every grifter picked it up and ran with it
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>>580614629
Stop feeding breadtubers
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>>580614467
its true though. its bottom of the barrel together with durotar and mulgore
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>>580612974
classic+ anon
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>>580615094
>mulgore
I've never seen taste so bad
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new bread
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>>580615286
new bread cooking recipe confirmed for classic+
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new thread:

>>580615572
>>580615572
>>580615572
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>>580609681
Priest. 1x1 in wpvp it wins against a lot of things. Mind control is pure trolling and if you don't mind healing, it's the easiest shit to raid with, lots of free items too
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>>580615224
what’s so special about empty plains



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