What is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alonehttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1
who the FUCK wanted sky elves
fpbp
>>580806181I don't fuck men. Toggle it off, faggot.
They HAVE to add arenas at some point
this is your MT prot pally, say hi to himhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#paladin/60/203003000000000000-5530013021201251-052030002000000000
>no dungeon system>not even heroic dungeons>literally no reason to do dungeons after you get your pre raid bisThough I don't care for retail and I don't love being on a timer I do like the idea of giving value to dungeons like M+ does as its some of my favorite content. Really unfortunate that dungeons at level 60 will become irrelevant very quickly.
*posts a pic of ion*
esoteric
as the creator of the first wow forever general i requestnayi demand more wow gooning materialthank you for your attention to this matter
Apologize
Reminder to not be negative or you posts will be toggled!
MageScholars won once again
>the point is the journey not the endgamedoes this mean the journey will be long and arduous or the endgame is going to suck?
>>580806234What? No Language Skill so I can speak to people cross-faction and in their own racial tongue?What? No Traitor option so I can play as a human female on Horde?What? No Night Time darkness for lantern and torch use?What? No night time danger outside cities like Minecraft?What? No dance studio?BUT I CAN PLAY AS A FUCKING SMURF THAT WAS NEVER A PART OF VANILLA WOW LORE?!PARDON MY FRENCHBUT WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHITYOU HAD ONE JOB NU-BLIZZ
>>580806410Whiteman chads won
>>580806316They were specifically a wink and nudge to me in particular. It's amusing that it was such a public wink and nudge. I smiled seeing that trailer.
>>580806414No. This seems much better, even if the sex elves are obviously Microslop-forced nonsense designed to cater to chinks.
I'm not paying for beta access, I'm just going to let thousands of other people realize that it's Retail- for me.
What changes are coming to professions? Can't find info
I miss turtle wow so much bros
>>580806503it means your gonna pirate a paid leveling addon throw on movies and level 7 chars. so both
>>580806526idk man
>>580806532Ok, so go play it
>try to by some greens off the AH >all the prices are inflated because of transmoghow do i toggle lower prices...
>>580806385people did dungeons, even low level dungeons, for ultra rare drops. mounts, BOEs, etc. you keep the world alive by having reasons to go back to these places.
>>580806389precisely. Watch the trailer again. The Sky Elf is guiding the Dwarf with her orb.
>>580806385B-but they said there'll be horizontal progression...
So what class is the best tank now? Warrior/Paladin/Druid
>>580806610>buying greens
gnome racials seem so strong on casters to the point where it may aswell be the only option for alliance mages and warlocks. they are also the worst looking race in the game. its a tragedy
>>580806617>people did low level dungeons for mountsu wot
>alliance have all the best pvp racialsgiga L for horde
not sure what to main guys... fucking hell.shammy seem kinda fun, no?
>>580806503hopefully it's both cause it might ward off undesirables.
>>580806710>hopefully the game is bad so people won't play itkek
>>580806460I see you, bro.
>>580806680Nelf gets 10% crit, human gets 2% but it's passive. Gnome racial does seem very strong though. Hard to compete with and might get nerfed
>>580806610just... toggle on the WoW token
WE ARE SO BACK
>>580806506thankclassic plus needsTHIS
>>580806763whats in the basement
human hunters holy poggers!
>>580806506No we didn't, they censored her
>>580806709well, what do you enjoy most? DPS, Tank, Heals?And then go for the flavor question.
/psgwow/ status ?
>>580806705Horde racials dominated PvP for over 20 years. Its time for alliancechads to have a turn.
>>580806759no, but if you're fully end-game brained then you shouldn't be at the table ruining MY game. back to retail. and the levelling being arduous is good
>>580806851
warlock changes look so good. really considering rolling one
>>580806902healing.>hate competing with cocksucker dps>hate leading a dungeon>just fine and comfy sitting back and healing>cocksucker dps try to ruin it and make healers dps in their downtime
>>580806867alright, to be honest, Human Hunters should of just been base vanilla lol.
>>580806610the problem will be people rolling on dungeon/raid gear for transmog. if people ever do bwl pugs, it's over. everyone is rolling ashkandi for the xmog even if they have better.
>>580806940https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvvTacquttk
>SoD, but with slightly more retailslopHow do u fags keep falling for this shit
>>580806968isn't it cold?
>>580806680Forsaken racials need a fucking buffGet rid of this underwater breathing shit for something actually useful
you can toggle everything but the bots and gold sellers
>WoW Forever doesn't have paid 3 days early like retail did the last 3 expansionsAt least Blizzard did something right.
>>580806680The new human sword specialisation works for spells as well - mageblade will be hectic
>>580806797nelfs can be neither mage or warlock2% crit seems alright but then you are locked into swords to get any benefit which also locks you out of your legendary which in a game that bills itself as being "forever" makes it a chase item that any long time raider may eventually get
Honestly the paypig edition isn't that bad if you were already planning on buying Warcraft 3 Reforged and the new expansion ($50)then you get a month's subscription ($15) and a bunch of other perks including some cool mounts and the elf race for another 15 bucks.Not gonna play skyborne because elves are gay I just want the mounts.
>>580807005wait I thought people here said that Healers were Leaders.In Classic was it different? I asked in the Retail thread and people said Healers and DPS tend to be the ones who call the shots.
>>580806685even in naxx gear, people would still do runs.
>>580806940/psgwow/ is nothing but a glorified crew
Presented, without comment.
>>580807049make the mog items require tokens from the content
>>580807132i've been kvetching about that on their surveys for years.
>>580807150no thanks
>>580807093It's dead, Jim.
>>580807132paid name reservation
Can I toggle the blue elves to be ogres?
>forever retail>paid beta>paid class>new class is some shitty shadowlands elf that literally no one asked for>transmog>hd retail texturesare uncs really excited for this?
>>580806506I like to pretend that that's a tuck rather than a vagina. vaginas give me the heebie-jeebies, am I right fellas?
They removed Omen of Clarity from druid tree! No! I was the one restoration druid that ran into melee range to smack enemies in dungeons with my staff to get a chance on hit for a free regrowth and now it's gone!
>>580806386Why do /v/ and reddit dislike him, again? Do they consider him a corpo poser or something?
>>580807271I think Ogres will arrive in an update.
the new/old graphics toggle affects all models, right? not just the player character models? I won't see any retail-style models at all if i have the classic models option switched on?
>>580807261it's actually such a stupid perk when they make you have a first/last name like ff14.
>>580807261does it even matter with two names? >You're aware we have first and last names right?>You're aware we have first and last names right?>You're aware we have first and last names right?>You're aware we have first and last names right?>You're aware we have first and last names right?>You're aware we have first and last names right?
>>580807115is there any info on the damage that the lifesteal passive actually does 5% chance for 5% of your max health in damage+healing seems pretty strong if inconsistent but its worded as "up to 5%"
>>580807172man that takes me backmaybe this time Ill actually get Felstriker on my Rogue
>>580807261Nothingburger, each char has 2 names. So unless you really wanna reserve and sell off "Six Seven" then it's irrelevant
>>580807049>if people ever do bwl pugsUse Master Loot, faggot.
>>580806414We did not fucking deserve you, Shenna. I'm sorry my queen. Northwind and Stormwrought Castle are my favorites and I should've paid for more bag space.
>>580806361low iq retail take, arenas are spastic cooldown spam garbage, the games real pvp system was battlegrounds and world pvp
>>580807279>paid beta$100 for beta access is cheap though, I remember spending $500 to get into a nAshes of Creation beta
Why blue elves, though? High elves/blood elves as a neutral race. Silvermoon/Eversong being rebuilt as a zone(s). Easy. No need to hamfist EVEN MORE ELVES when we all know we are getting pink and purple elves eventually anyway.
>>580807185that sounds like a good way to lose everything you love.
Now that it's confirmed Forever will flop bigly what do we do now? pray for new turtle/ascension?
>>580807290It was pretty great for leveling/farming too desu
>>580806504>No Traitor option so I can play as a human female on Horde?EQ2 had this and it was pretty cool.
>>580807185dont*clap*like*clap*it*clap*toggle*clap*it
>>580807352I love this change. I'll run into stormwind and count how many human warriors named Geralt I can find
so does plainsrunning just permastack as long as you are moving? gonna be fking hilarious setting up a bot to run in circles for like an hour while i eat dinner and then just pull 1500 mobs with moonfire and run around dotting them to speed lvl
>hd models but classic animations>will never come to retail because they have too many new racesHoly fuck Retoilet suicide watch status???
>>580806414I'm not apologizing because I got banned repeatedly defending Turtle in the /epoop/ generals. Still, this image is pretty funny.
>>580807340>>580807352>>580807365idk i was just adding for commentary and its def better than fucking early access but stillalso i dont fucking like two nameswhat the fucking shti is that so dumbif i want to be fucking "kharn" or some shit now i gotta come up with something stupid behind itfuck that shit
>>580807529its only like 30% speed
Vanilla WoW was the only time the game was popular and had an increasing population of players, everything after was stagnation and decline
my last name will be ttv and people will look up something that doesn't exist LOL
>>580807356yeah its 5%.Forsaken have a 5% chance to leech 15HP. as a racial. Whoopty fucking do.Meanwhile other races are getting new shit like 10% increased damage, immunity to curses & banes, 50% hp regen, and so on.
>>580807495It would be cool if it was something you could work toward at a hiugh level rather then making your char at level 1 as a traitor
>>580807482You can play OctoWoW right now, turdletroon.
>>580807075>true vanilla is painfully archaic to the point of it being unfun>though not insurmountable retail is frustrating in how difficult it tends to be which also makes it stressful and unfun>wow forever is a middle ground of classic and retailWoW Forever is for me, unironically. The saddest part gameplay wise is that dungeons will become irrelevant quickly but maybe one day Blizzard will add something similar to M+ but ideally with no time trials.
we should all make our last names sneed
priest bros, it's time
>>580807392true enough, gonna miss northwind and tel'abim
>>580807556i also hate it. quite a lot actually, it does make trying to sell name reservations retarded though unless you want to be that guy who makes "darth vader" or something dumb like that.
>>580807675>dspgaming sneed
>>580807556Two names is amazing and is standard in most MMOs, you won't see Arthasxxxxxxd tier names all the time and people putting weird fucking symbols in their names just to get the name they like
did they show any pics of the druid forms?
>>580807418It's only 60 for beta and you also get game time, new race, and other shit so i dont see it as horrible. No EA is great. And the friend code is also great. But I wish you didnt have to pay for elves at all.
>they didn't close the portal
>>580807590its a 5% chance to leech 5% max health no? a warlock with 4k health is gonna be leaching 200 health every 2 seconds
my name will be Fort Niteyou cant toggle me
>>580807583>Vanilla WoW was the only time the game was popular and had an increasing population of playersSubs went up through all of TBC and most of Wrath before plateauing and declining with Cata. Why do nillers live in a state of constant delusion? The numbers were fucking publicly available back then.
>>580807712the custom content zones were actually pretty comfy in turtle but they did feel a bit jank and low budget at times
>>580807468for context, this is what they did for TBC anniversary.2 mounts, pet, toy, hearthstone effect.if they did some cosmetic garbage like this for forever-- no problem. i literally could not care less. but locking a race, "paid beta", and name reservations are fucking wack.
>>580807468Because blizzard is stupid ree ree reeSeriously though it's probably because they really needed something clearly new and never seen before both for marketing and to charge people. It's bad elves are 30$, but if they were same Blood Elves you are already familiar with but have to pay 30$ elf tax it wouldn't look good.
>>580807742Yeah shit looks babyblue, if it had pink it'd be the troon flag
>>580807867did they update tauren/ne forms?
>>580807468Sylvannas was a high elf ranger general. There is no way she wouldnt ally with the blood elves, with her people. That is why the blood elves are horde.
>>580807590with full raid buffs warriors were running around with like 10k hp in tier 3, if its 5% life on every proc then having a 500 damage lifesteal on a 5% proc seems very strong
>>580807829Honestly I like the paid race because you'll forever be able to identify paypigs. Mounts might eventually go away but if someone's playing one of these voidfaggots you know they're dumb retards.
>>580807468if you were paying attention to the how they used the dwarf and the bear and other little touches during the presentation, they were attempting to avoid the woke issue.so instead of showing high elves as blacks now they made up a new race that can change skin tone.
>>580807765I can't imagine it doesn't have a fairly substantial ICD.
>TBC RL wants us to keep raiding so he can get glaives>want to spen $50 so i can play forever beta instead
I give it a week before we start seeing the videos about how Forever doesn't actually understand why people like vanilla WoW.
Are only talents changed or did they do anything to base abilities?
>>580807647>>true vanilla is painfully archaic to the point of it being unfuni think vanilla is great personally however things i do not like about vanilla are how painful it is to get certain prebis items, eventually you will literally just get super bored and unmotivated during leveling unless you play like mage and know you have an out if you can just make it to level 40, and the fucking god awful classic community>>though not insurmountable retail is frustrating in how difficult it tends to be which also makes it stressful and unfunits just a game bro, i love that shit personally, its very stimulating
>>580807917Nope, not that I saw. Just the new race druid form and new race totems
Worlo WarcarWorlo WawaWorlo Warca
>this mount is already in>cant toggle itkek
>>580807690>missing the text under it that says it's just multiplying all the numbers by x5
>>580808004I prefer worlo warcwaf.
>>580807931yeah, paid race dudes will be easier to segregate once you see them fuck up anything
the people i usually play with want to be horde but i know that faction is going to be nothing but blue elves and undead paladinsnot to mention the alliance racials are now better
>>580807917I have to imagine that they're the WotLK models if you have new models toggled on. It would be fucking bizarre if they weren't. >>580807763The portal is already closed. It reopened with TBC.
>>580808014holy kino
>want to buy the physical collectors edition because I was going to buy WC3 anyways and the statue is neat>my account will forever be tainted by having the blueniggers unlocked
>>580808014that's the dude's retoilet mount collection, isn't it?
>>580808075My guild has already said we're kicking anyone that uses them.
>>580807917they did. they don't look like complete ass now
>>580807987well yeah Forever is just retail slop. who asked for this?
>>580808086I want to say the paywall will keep the numbers down, but I know blizzdrones well enough to know that won't actually be true
>>580806414take me back to cats eye drama club
>>580808174The trailer was great
>>580808014Retoilet+ lgbt edition
>>580808174I did
>>580807735ya i just don't see the point honestly like its actually grating to think about i watched the dungeon demo and the second name on the target of target frame was actually pissing me off>>580807741idk that kind of stuff never bothered me, seems like something that would bother rp realm playershopefully i can turn the second name off
>>580807805tbc was where it slowed down and stopped it's explosive player growth, no one liked the abandonment of the old world for the brown turd scape of outland, only arenajeets liked tbc, because they sit in their feces colored arenas eating shit all day long
>>580807987we get beta in 5 days so we'll find out
>>580808164that's just the toggle pmuch
>>580808149>*toggles the ban on your account*no racism allowed
There are at least three people in /wowfg/ that want playable dryads, and yet blizzard remains ignorant to valuable feedback and voices in their community! Shameful!
ALEXGRIMLICQUESAWE NEED YOU
>>580807972No shot he gets both of them before November. Fuck 'em.
>>580808174Sex
is there gonna be OCE servers? i'm in JP and the game is literally unplayable anywhere else
>>580808093>they didn't SMASH IT
>>580807987kek I was thinking the exact same thing. People are just too hungry for Classic+ and are completely blinded by how bad this looks at first glance.
nu-NE males are so fucking chad
>>580808261
hello it's OP here. wow goon material thanks. >discussion topicwill factions be imbalanced? do alliance racials have enough to overpower horde. or is tauren plainswalking and undead paladin enough to power through
>>580808324We just have let a coupe of drae inTHEN we close it
Fuck this shit I'm playing WALL
>warlocks get critting dots and incinerateHOLY FUCK IM GONNA, IM GONNA, IM GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>>580808174>who asked for this?
>>580808305If Indonesians can farm Maraudon at 200 ping, I'm sure you'll be fine.
>>580808174only people who toggled their gender liked this terrible trailer
is it just me or does it look like shadow priest sisters are eating GOOD? Will we finally be able to actually have mana?
>>580808174The inclusion of bluesky elves at the last second seems like a cruel prank.
>>580808260but then they'd need to make male dryads too...
>>580808410it even makes sensetake away 15bucks and its 35 bucks to play the game almost 2 months early and for the next 5 out of 7 weeks until release.im doing it for the sole purposoe of knowing what to roll once it actually realeses(smite priest dps btw)
What was in the 100mb patch for tbc today?
Please tell me they're nuking the concept of world buffs
>>580806316They also look like a lazy palette swap, don't they?>>580806503If it's as much a copy of GW2 as leaks have suggested, it just means they'll build in excuses for you to go back to old content regularly so it never ends up turning into a ghost town. There will always be a few players with a reason to be in the mines of Elwynn beyond rolling new alts. >>580808174I wanted playable Shadowlands races so that pic just made me bitter about not getting to roll a literal angel.
>>580808410I mean, you don't have to give them money if you don't want to play a sky elf, anon. I guess guaranteed beta access is nice, but it's hardly necessary.
>Horde 4 races can be shaman>Alliance 2 races can be paladinFuck is up with this shit
>>580807987HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA just give him 2 days
>>580808614>If it's as much a copy of GW2 as leaks have suggestedHorizontal progression is exactly what WoW should've always done. Vertical is a fucking cancer for MMOs long-term.
SoD was more Classic than Forever
WoW has so much potential to be good but blizzard keeps fumbling it
>>580808558Look at Warcraft 3 keepers of the grove. They are pretty cool. It would be fine. Everyone would play female dryads anyway
>>580808450well i plan on getting into pvp again so 200 ping is not ideal lol
>pserver thirdies trying as hard as they can to doomYour shit servers are DONE. Blizzard delivered.
>>580807298hes a raidnigger who has managed to hoodwink millenials into becoming his personal land whale army
>>580808337t.faggot
How many days until Retoileters kys themselves that ForeverCHVDS get old animations?
can we save mankrik's wife this time
>>580808245arena was such a massive niggerification of the game, it forced people to play whatever flavor of the month classes were broken as hell and just spam broken abilities and cooldownsarena niggers need to kill themselves, AOE spam in BGs was infinitely better
>>580808748>enhanced has more gameplay benefits on by default>the average mouth breather will never toggle off enhanced models or transmogyes its all... completely optional i assure you
>>580807592Some people are born rebels, AnonOr bred in captivity :)
The blue Blood Elves seem like the brainchild of a retarded executive, and limiting their classes by not letting them be paladins or priests (thank God even though I'm sure it'll change within a year) seems like a smarter man trying to curb the cancer.
>>580808628shamans dont have to read books so it more accessible
>>580808853mankirk's wife and the stolen slivers can never be reclaimed
>>580808361idk and i'm shit at math and don't know how eureka works but my buttfeeling is that horde still have actual throughput racials and access to blessings now so i don't really see them not being better for pve but what do i knowthe hardiness change means they're pretty gutter in pvp but who cares because theres no arena
>everyone here doomin' and gloomini'm so happy wc3 got a huge update to the map editor. custom maps are going to be even more amazing.
Question.Do we need to pay for anything other than the subscription? Like for example, if I don't have any version of WoW, is that something I'll have to buy or do I just download the game for free, pay my sub and then I'm good to go?
>>580808876why would you choose classic when nelfs look like literal sex with the HD models??????
>>580807185this is real though, no better way to be insufferable than to constantly yap about what you dont like. but this webm is wasted ITT, these fags are asocial retards that noone wants to be around, and they will just blame ''normies''. not themselfs.
>>580808949yeah that's how it worked for the previous classic versions. i had friends who made fresh accounts, just pay the 15$ a month
>>580808748one of the only good additions from later expansions was the darkmoon island and its quests
>>580808998Till they open their disney pixar mouths
>>580808876omg just toggle and shut up
>>580808936What are some good maps? Are there any cool custom campaigns out there? I'm paypigging the $79.99 version for Warcraft 3 + expansion primarily.
>>580807185How retail got destroyed: The picture
>>580808628I honestly think BE Paladins would have been fine. Moonlight is close enough. Apparently they're being added to retoilet.
>>580807765>5% chance means it'll proc every 2 seconds
>>580808589i hope not shit is half the fun of vanilla raiding otherwise you're just going to fall asleep on your first rungive alliance wcb
>>580808876wait what if i want enhanced everything but not trannymog?
>>580808174>blood elves, but they can be blue like trolls, who they share common lineage withThat's really terrible anon.
>>580809101What are dots and haste + pet (optional)
>>580809075NE Paladins*
>>580809114dogshit take
>>580808628horde needs diversity to survive while all huwyte men will live out their inner cuck fantasy as a human male paladinMinority dwarves will don the lace because theyre already the type of midget fat that can make shorts look like raver parachute pants
this seem to be the next big MMO thingy, will any girls be playing this? can i get myself a hoe if i hop on??
>>580809101siphoncorruptionimmolateagonyno hope dotdrain life
No playable NagaNo playable High ElvesNo playable OgresNo playable EredarNo playable GnollsNo playable GoblinsNo playable FurblogsNo playable DryadsHere's your reskinned blue tranny elf oc
>>580807647Its not even thatWhat’s the long term? Retail drops a massive amount of content every 6 months and it still gets boring after 3. I find it hard to believe they will have a retail-like content pace and if they don’t, the game will die.
>>580808790aussies have been dealing with it for 20 years, stop being such a fucking cunt, cunt
Does this basically kill any chance of a new progression server?I'm excited for Forever, but I've always wanted to follow the plot of the game through the expansions as released.
>>580809212not that guy but world buffs are fun. SOM fucking sucked without them. they should make them more accessible if anything like how they were in SOD in the last couple of phases
>>580809232my wife is playing with me so back offshe knows not to talk to creeps like you
>>580809114alliance already has wcb
>>580809345dogshit take
Wowpsg blown the fuck out forever
>>580809326OCE has its own servers on retail, what are you talking about?
new talents look cool ngl
>>580809343>follow the plot of the game through the expansions as released.it's up to mop already. wtf do you mean?
>>580809232your ho gonna be from nam and have two toes left
I'm honestly really excited to play 2 maybe 3 classes, one is a redundant role so maybe just two honestly.
Is the Horde Skyborne speed racial a cooldown ability or is it just a permanent speed buff?
>>580809075Night Elves could be shamans too to be honests. They have the whole forces of nature vibes going on, communing with the spirits is their whole thing, with the wisps and all, and their totems would be cool.
>>580809283What's with people wanting naga/ogres/murlocs etc to be a playable race? Makes zero sense at all.Unfortunately high elves will never happen in any version of the game.
>>580809343It's already happened three times
Will Forever have traditional servers or is it going to be phased bullshit? Wonder how many servers I'll have to reserve my names on.
>>580809283for me it's the makruraI don't care how badly they'd need to rape the lore for it to work
>>580808873>having no ability to effect the outcome of any given match is good, actually
>you can toggle the sky elves to be blackkek what a raped game
have they added more lifeskilling and other stuff to do outside of combat? the problem with classic wow is that it's always a treadmill that requires constant update
>>580808876you can pick and choose what you want those are PRESETS YOU FAT DOOMING RETARD
>>580809258>no hope dot>drain lifeBoth of these are channels. Drain hope channels over 6s.
>in 30s now, barely time to wow>doesnt matter>forever means i can come back 3 months later when i have more time and catch up in progression right away>all the retards will take time off work and school on november 4 while the servers assplode for a week straight, ill just log on when i have time a few days later and catch up comfilyholy fuck we are SO back and SO home. I just gotta make my mind up about Smurfelf druid, undead warlock or melee hunter
>>580809258hopea a channel like malific grasp
>>580809345world buffs conceptually are not bad, the idea of trekking out into the world and getting readyed up for raid is good but they are mostly static annoyances behind dumb gating, being able to boon them made them less of a cunt. i think the camping system will probably be a buffing profession to help mitigate the removal of world buffs
>>580809498its on use
>>580809534they didn't mention the server setup, so almost certainly will be phased, as it would take more effort not to.
so they just copied everything from both turtle and ascension or even threatened the dev teams to sue them unless they hand over blizzard the codedid i get it right?
>Will have new retail classes while the old classes are fucking dogshit with hardly any changes, besides a talent or 2 per spec.>Ugly retail UI.>Ugly retail faggot $30 race.Who is this for exactly?
>Gold prices crashing>People quitting en-masse>Rogues pissed no one wants to raid for their glaives anymoreGlad I cashed out and sold everything last week
>>580809627toggle your anger broyou can pick classic or enhanced and then pick and choose in the options what to toggle obviously i said the average mouth breather will never bother doing thattoggle your brain on maybe?
>>580809501>their totems would be coolEven though we have new character models, it looks like they didn't bother with new totems from the trailer. Pretty disappointing tbdesu.
LFM STRAT UD NO SKYBORNE
>>580809752What is phasing? I'm just jumping on the bandwagon knowing everyone hates it and I'm new to WoW Classic.
>>580809713Like a toggle with no CD like aspect of the cheetah, or it's a CD? 10% movement speed seems terrible for a CD
>>580808929no arena but we haven't seen all the features yet. I believe we'll get ranked duels or RBG's eventually. thank you for your contribution
>>580809534first time i played wow was back in the launch of dragonflight, my feeling when stepping down into the dragon isle was disappointment at how empty it isturns out it was busy as fuck with tons of people running around but i couldn't see them, phasing just kills any social aspect of an MMO man
>>580809445Which classes anon?
>>580809560ok go play one of the 3 viable comps and spam your cooldowns in the exact same order every game like thats any different
>>580809708I think world buff givers should give you a token you can use, the token should be a limit of one, but i would be nice to have.
>>580809531i don't get it either. the armor would be retarded. i almost always play tauren and i hate how their helmets look on their retarded heads. non-humanoid races are stupid.
>THE TRAILER WAS SO CASH MONEY DOOOODEI hate how many retoilt "people" are here muddying the waters. You will fuck off back to your furry avatars and mythic+ within six months and never look back.
>>580809651>more time and catch up in progression right awayyou mean like sod needing sanc gear to get into naxx then naxx gear to get into enclave
so horde will forever be a raped demographic afterall
>>580808014No, this is an edit right?
>>580809421Yea my favorites are [+1% chance to hit] and [basic retail ability]
>>580809212you're just a lazy faggot that dies with them>>580809375since wheni thought that was only on sod
>he hasn't finalized his forever build yet
gonna be really hard to play hardcore until thursdaygonna be so fucking fun to make a no-skyborne allowed guild/dungeon/raidblizzard brought back bonafide racism and its going to actively target the only people that whine about racism. we are SO FUCKING BAAAAAAAAAACK
>>580809895OSRS is bigger than Runescape There's a chance that Forever is actually more successful than retoilet.
>>580809778>unless they hand over blizzard the codeFor their 3.3.5 client servers when Blizzard is using the modern client? How fucking stupid are you?
>>580809842It's what other MMOs would call channels, just separate instances of the same area on the same server.
>>580809849looked like a CD when sodapoppin tried it. 10% passive movespeed would be egregiously overpowered in PvP
>>580809945i play HC
>>580809994Don't worry the $30 retail class they eventually add to the game will btfo any shitty classic class.
it was kinda funny seeing all of the wow streamers who live breathe eat and shit wow force themselves to pretend to like forever.>soda spent all day working on his talents only to do a single dungeon, get bored, leave the dungeon and pvp until kicked outall of my keks
>>580809842classic wow calls it layering, but its kind of like having another world on the server when one world gets too heavy with players, its a way to partition players to reduce sever load.It does damage the sense of community on the server as not everyone is sharing the would as you would traditionally understand it.
>>580809895It's called "World of Warcraft: Forever", not "World of Warcraft: Classic: Forever". Hope this helps!
>>580809997you will be banned if you discriminate against paypigs
>>580809842that means there is one server, but its chunked so that the server doesnt overloadi.e if there is a 100 people in the same location it will put you into one of the groups that way you can only see and interact with 30-40 people
>>580809804i didnt expect the retail UI to be such a turn off in the previews. its so fucking ugly and doesnt fit vanilla at all. they have to add a vanilla-style UI option
>>580809398OCE has always had to play american ping when the matchmaker couldn't make an OCE matchits not even a problem, i live on the east coast of the states and get a whopping 135 ping to OCE hosts from west coast servers, normally its 80, global is so fucking long in niller its completely irrelevant besides stopping <1.5 second casts
are they tweaking classes? i'm planning on rolling a warrior but i'm not going through that leveling experience again, fuck that
could trolls always be warlocks?
>>580810060>>580810149>>580810182How many total servers does Classic even have if they're phased? Do you just have one NA-East-PvP server for example?
>>580809997I'm all for racism and will be playing a sex elf. Carry on.
>>580808174I will now play your race
>>580808174She kinda cute tho
>>580810205word? then i guess i'll give it a try
>>580810238noit's also likely why they had to nerf berserking, because I remember twow had to do the same shit since warlocks are so busted with it
>>580810304gross
>>580809720The OP demanded it.>>580809873Druid and hunter, I was considering shaman or priest too but why play even more healers. Spent too much time on priest anyway, disc is boring but it'll be the popular spec for PI alone
>>580810208>i'm not going through that leveling experience again, fuck thatbe prepared to be called a retoilet enjoyer
>>580810057look at their "new" legacy system and go see what it looks like on ascensioneven the ui is basically the sameevery "new" feature theyve shown existed prior on either turtle wow or ascension
>>580810205As long as the servers are west coast, only perth faggots cry about having to play on NA
So apparently world buffs are not going to work in raids?
>>580810304fuarkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>580809534split servers are retarded.>oh shit i didn't even realize you were playing wow! what server are you on? oh, i'm on the other one. yeah that sucks i guess we can't play together.>everyone re-rolled to the other faction on my pvp server and i can't get groups now>i picked the wrong server and everyone left and now stormwind is emptytruly, it's retarded. and if you disagree you're retarded. if i'm in a zone, and there is only one other person on the planet in that zone, i should be able to see them. they shouldn't be hidden from me just because they're on a different server.the downsides of multiple fixed servers are worse than the downsides of sharting / phasing / cumming
>ploos is just tbc in niller formOh lawd
>>580810123kek the playerbase is going to drop so hard after the first 6 months when all the cracks begin to show for even the biggest slurper tard
For a moment when the trailer was playing I thought the Sky Elf area was Bastion in the Shadowlands
>>580810123What sort of freak wants to do a dungeon in a temporary beta test anyways?
>>580810304Saw their charger creation options. You can actually to this. Fuck I love brown women.
>>580808702Yeah. I'm just skeptical they'll pull it off. Blizzard is all about power creep. The blue elves also make me question their creative capacity.
>>580810402nobody knows anything about world buffs. anyone who claims otherwise is lyingthere is a 3 hour panel on forever tomorrow, we will almost certainly learn then
Yes, HC will be it's own server. The opening options are PvP, PvE, RP, and HC. Obviously, PvP and PvE are not going to be on the same server, so these are server options.
>>580810508no you don't.
>>580809901i regret not keeping up with sod. i should have picked it back up in phase 2.
>improved trackingfuck you blizzard. these nigs hate the fuck out of the survival tree for some reason
The skyborne elf from the cinematic is my wife
>>580810537No RP-PvP? This kind of shit is why I preferred Turtle and Ascension. We had War Mode and almost everyone used it.
ABDUL YOU CAN STILL SELL YOUR GOLD IN ERA NO NEED TO DOOMPOST
>>580810497Same
>>580810385people enjoy leveling warrior? are they brain damaged?
Gonna be honest.I don't think they went far enough.All of the talents look so lame compared to SoD.I feel they got TOO cold feet. Shit like Mage healers and tank shamans were great for the game and made filling in those slots way easier. I play tank with my friend and I gotta choose between Warrior/pally/druid which none really interest me. I miss Warlock tanking from SoD.
>>580809534If they're really aiming at "Forever", it will be one single server with scalable instances of each area. Otherwise, the less populated servers will always death spiral and the most populated ones will always sit just above comfortable capacity.
>>580810395That's been the retail UI for several years, you mouth breathing retard. Ascension was ripping them off, not the other way around. Same way they did with talents in CoA being based on the Dragonflight talent system. Pic is pretty ironic given that you obviously have a taste for Assension's shit.
Okay, but seriously though. How can you make certain character combinations purposefuly rare in an MMO? For example lore-wise it would be unusual to see a female Nelf druid or male Nelf priest. How would it be possible for actual playerbase to reflect that. Or that traitor idea someone mentioned earlier. Jokes aside it would be cool if you could see an orc in an alliance, but it would be extremely rare.
>>580810678This.The talents are too plain and gay.I was expecting balls to the walls changes. This is lukewarm garbage.
>>580810678I think we'll get shaman tank back eventually. This is meant to last just as long if not longer than retail already has. Give it time anon.
>>580810650Warrior is kino
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/05320003000000000-030000000000000000-5523010030010105351deep prot spec. I don't think fury prot will be viable anymore so heres an example of what it could look like. one notable thing is the str+stam scaling on deep prot vs paladin. In tbc paladins get a total of 16% stamina which makes them scale crazy while warriors only received 5%. now this could not end up mattering depending on base stats or other passives classes may have. let me know what you all think.
>>580810537I wonder if it'll be like Anni HC where you can transfer off your dead HC character. It was kinda abuseable for gold since certain things on the HC auction house were significantly cheaper than the non-HC servers.
>>580810678I think they are just launching with less stuff class wise so they have easy additions over time. It is easier to add stuff later than to realize you added too much and take stuff out.They seem set on supporting this indefinitely, hence the name "forever", so we will get more stuff.
>>580810493The cracks are already showing. >New ugly disney retail UI that looks way worse and doesn't fit the theme of classic. >New ugly disney retail faggot race, that again doesn't fit in with the rest of the game. >Classes almost no changes even though they will put new classes in the game eventually that will 100% not fit in and will be too retaily. Anything new they add will be very jarring because they don't understand how to design something that feels like it was made for classic not retail.
>>580809889>every game like thats any differentuhh its very different moronyou're just spitting out shitter cope desu>>580809895i thought the trailer was shit personally furrys don't do mythic plust.oilet
>>580810650vanilla leveling is the greatest you just follow blue arrow then pay third worlders to boost you>>580810573it was pure power fantasy shitting out such high numbers at 60
>>580810563I really do, anon.
>>580809895Noticeable thread quality decline after the first general during Blizzcon one Retairds realized the forever general was moving 5x as fast as their AI spam tranny coom echo chamber
>>580809283I would take any of those races (except dryads) over smurfsDoesn't even matter if I can see what armor I'm wearing, they could have added that laterJesus Christ I loathe nu-blizzard
>>580810790You can transfer apparently. I'll make a char in HC and a main somewhere else and xfer to that realm when I die in HC to hoard the stuff
we wonwe fucking won
>>580806316i always thought giving belfs/high elves to both factions was the best way to solve the elf problem but whoever decided they needed to be blue skinned was a massive fucking retard but i guess they really needed to make them look fundamentally different to get retards to pay for them
>>580810678How did mage healers play? I keep seeing people lament the loss of them. What made them fun?
>>580810781it's only kino in everquest, wow is too solo oriented for that class design
>T-This looks awful!!!!>B-Blizzard doesn't k-know what they are doing!!!>How did this stuff get past t-t-testing!?!?!?>I t-totally won't play this s-shit!!!>*Buys beta access edition*
All right, someone on this dev team has to reel in the dev that has a Gnome fetish. The new Gnome racial is crazy and then Gnome priests get an AOE CC and a Guardian Spirit that prevents death? A Gnome Priest will be way too OP in PVP
>>580810678they stated over and over about the social aspect that needs to be preserved, making everything too easy and convenient would kill any effort to foster the social aspect.
>>580810493they'll move on to gasing over season of forevery + by that point
will they be adding retail housing? i think they should look into adding evergreen content like that quickly instead of doing polls
>>580810945they were like attonment priests
>....2 years later....>Man, this WoW: Forever thing has been really cool! Especially for a new Warcraft fan like me!>But what about the 'retail' version I've heard about... what's that all about, anyway? >Logs in to a lonely frankenstein asocial behemoth full of dated, abandoned and irrelevant systems and zones stacked on top of each other for 20 years>Greetings, Champion!>What the fuck?what's Blizz's plan for this?
>>580810809the name "Forever" is also terrible and indicative of the product's quality
>>580810696>How can you make certain character combinations purposefuly rare in an MMO?By making the common combinations better than the rare ones. Classic kind of does this with Human and Orc warriors
>>580810678I think that shit was goofyWhat we got now is infinitely more interesting, lock can pet tank and sham might offtank tooFuck mages, nigger class
>>580809184You can edit it later granularly
>>580810973hopefully gnomes are raped into the dirt during the beta i swear if they don't make some changes during beta i am going to be seething and coping and basically shitting my pants also ngl i think priestcels are eating GOOD in forever
night elves were already blue
>>580810945If I remember correctly it was like a more fun disc priest>>580811062>lock can pet tankI doubt it
>>580807482new turtle is already confirmed so I'm not sweating regardless of how forever turns out.
I would rather play classic or retail, not some mullatto mix between the 2. Forever looks horrible with very little dev time invested, just a quick cash grab for Xbox.
>>580810753>I was expecting balls to the walls changes.I wasn't. I knew something akin to this was the most they would be able to get away with given the tendency of nillafags to REEEEEEEEE at any and all changes. They probably went a little further than I was expecting, if anything. Very happy to see totem bars for Shaman, for instance. It's my favorite class but I refuse to play it without that.
>pick hardcore server>most people will avoid it in favour of experiencing forever>hit 60 hopefully or close enough anyway>transfer over to the pvp realm when i sudoku my char>lvl 60 while everyone is stuck in stv>lotus galore from farming on empty zonesKek
>undead paladinIs that canon?
>>580810973I thought priest racials were no longer a thing? when i saw someone palying a nelf priest they had devouring plague, fear ward, and starshards all at the same time
>>580810973sounds very on base with the lore, and gnome needs to attract players, they always sit at 2-4% of the pop.
>>580811097Can’t wait to gank you with my bald clean shaven gnome rogue
what if this outlives retail and classic?
>>580811115>xtreme cope
>>580810626turdl was destroying warmode toward the end of 2025. they were also caving
>>580811152No, they just replaced the racials and made devouring plague & fear ward baseline. Dwarf gets the TBC racials like Chastise, undead gets a new one that converts health to mana.
>>580811040same as jagex's plan for rs3, use it to gouge paypiggy goyim and forget about it
>>580810945You healed allies with a channeling ability. It healed a bit, but the most important thing was that it put a 'beacon' (a buff') on whoever you healed. Then, whatever arcane damage you did you healed that ally for that amount. It was fun because it was kind of a juggling act and really required smart mana usage. You can put beacons on several allies (the buff lasted a while) and heal them all at the same time but that would use a lot of mana. Or you could keep it on the tank and just heal him.There's also the fact that your main damage as mage healer (thus your best healing ability) was Arcane Blast, the ability that costs more mana but does more damage the more you use it. So it was thrilling to get huge bursts of healing by ramping up arcane blast but then you had to be wary of using too much mana.I had tons of fun with it. Sad to see they pussied out on not bringing it to Forever.
>>580810626My fellow RP-PvP nigga. Lets pray there's something for us
>>580811145There is one in NaxxAnd why wouldn't Undead be able to be Paladins?
they better show some fucking pvp events tomorrow, i actually liked the ashenvale sod p1 event before it got meta stomped
>>580810790When you die in HC you transfer to PvE I believe.
what are the odds they'll introduce an automatic group finding system but say that the camping will be a substitute social engine even though it'll be like replacing an ocean with a droplet?
>>580811142iirc you could only transfer to the pve server this way, but it might be different here
>>580809994We bringing back trispec. Instant shadowbolt spam.
>>580811243Does RP-PvP exist anywhere in classic/retail currently? I don't have a sub.
>>580810678agree. would it hurt anything to put more options in? would it actually be bad for the game if paladins had divine storm? would it be bad if mages could heal? would it be so bad if locks could tank?is it really so bad if basically every class could fill two roles? i don't want to play a straight dps because i hate how limited it feels. i always play a tank. i'm hoping they put a taunt in for the paladins. i'm telling myself the undead pally will be fun.i miss lock tanking. it felt different.
I'm thinking>roll a rogue on pvp server>roll warrior/pala/hunter on pve serversatisfy my griefing needs on the rogue, the pve server i can level nice and chill and play with less schizo tryhard guilds.
>>580810901also no one made a wowcg after Lol. rmters absolutely btfo
>>580811264No automatic group finding sorry
>>580811305They got too scared by the loud minority crying that it wasn't exactly Classic.
Classic WoW (2019 - 2026)SoD (2023 - 2026)
>>580811185that's the idea, this is Classic Retail.
>>580811307they will just have one server with warmode and hundreds of layers
>>580811323>sorrydon't apologize for good tidings. what makes you so sure though?
>>580810678>Shit like Mage healers and tank shamans were great for the game and made filling in those slots way easier.Nope, it was a failure because as it turns out, shortages are due to people not wanting to be the tank or healer role because the community is full of cunts. The issue was never availability or a spec to do so. People still refused all the same.
>>580811145they actually opened up the lore for them in SOD with the overarching paladin class questline. this kind of video might not be for you but it is a deepdive on it and its pretty well madehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POnU6M6ZgE&t=705s
>>580811128>I doubt itI did it on turtle with a much emptier talent tree, with the amount of ressource I see in the demono tree I bet it will be no problem
>>580811136This is kind of my feeling too. Like it's so odd to me this is the direction they went. They could've done everything they did, excluded the gay elves, excluded the stupid visuals, and it would've been good.
How'd I do? I've never played Shaman in classic before, but I do like enh shaman in retoilet.>>580811145they made it canon in today's Warcraft 3 expansion
>>580810901its cause of /wpsg/ and the nillers seethe. they are so mad they are trying ruin /wowfg/. just watch the anni and era realms die a painful death this thursday. LMAO.
>>580811240damn that's really sick actually. i find healing incredibly boring but i could imagine it being really tense trying to stack up your arcane blasts to heal off a huge hit. it would be a shame to let that die with sod.
>almost never see vulpera or worgen players anymoreWhat happened to all the furries?
>Tipsout already announced 1 million $ mak’gora tournament in the works for C+>Biggest retail PvP prize pool across 20 years has just been a sandwich and a hat at AWCHow do retailers cope? Even Blizz is abandoning that sinking ship
>>580811168The only thing they're going to attract is my feedback in the beta saying they need to be nerfed and deleted from the game because they're a disgusting thing to look at.
>>580811264i highly doubt it, its almost as hated as flying mounts
>>580811403if they have layers WE will not play the game
>>580810973at least horde pvp queues will be instant.
>>580809895Seething tranilla loon mad that nobody will be playing on his deader than MJ era server running GDKPs on their 10th warrior come november.
>>580811430this, and in fact even having tanking as an option will make people seethe because they don't want to be expected to offspec into the role
>>580811257In canon Light physically harms the undead, so undead h priests and any kind of paladin dont really make senseObviously this has not been observed since vanilla
>>580811403there is no warmode retard. there was a screenshot showing you select pve, pvp, rp or hardcore. go back to seething that your niller or pserf is dead, and while youre at it kys.
So is this the new /wowcg/?
>>580811290not a bad idea desu
>>580811235i see you missed rs3's development this year
>>580811507you'll never get all of us, we are small and easily missed.
Classic WoW Forever is greatest invention/art/thing of all time. I am prepared to discard every obligation, responsibility, and expectation to drown myself in this game. To every family member, colleague, friend, and pet: Goodbye. You will never see me again outside of Azeroth.
>>580811305>i'm hoping they put a taunt in for the paladins.Well you're in luck. They have a new tank seal that's strong and turns their Judgment into a taunt.
>>580810696Hard unlock conditions is one way. Make players level any night elf to max level to unlock the ability to level one of the rare specs, etc. Some MMOs use a rebirth system where you have to level a swordsman to a certain level to unlock the knight job, then level the knight job to max level to rebirth into a new swordsman, then level even longer to become a high knight or something, and then maybe there's even another job advancement called lord knight. This way, the mmo is crawling with swordsmen, knights are uncommon, high knights are rare, and lord knights are borderline mythical figures that you hardly catch a glimpse of in certain high level areas.
>>580811473I was playing with the shaman talen tree. I think enh will have to go to resto to pick up mana tide + water shield. There's no shamanistic rage to fix the mana issues. Imp stormstrike has some mana regen baked it so maybe mana tide isn't needed but water shield for sure
retoilet lost biglyclassic chads stay winning
>>580811045the name is really bad.
>>580811578>In canon Light physically harms the undead, so undead h priests and any kind of paladin dont really make senseThat fact doesn't negate the idea of Undead Paladins.If anything, Undead taking pain upon themselves to protect their allies is a very paladin thing to do.
>>580806234https://youtu.be/DjEzs74scO4>he was right
but what ifWorld of Warcraft: Forever: Classic
>>580811629>Shillmann
I can’t wait for the real vanilla chuds, the ones who still play era over hardcore and all other versions of the game start actively segregating blue elves>no bluelf guilds>bo bluelf dungeons>no bluelf PvP pre-made>no bluelf raids>corpsecamping blueelfs the second they enter contested territoriesShit is going to be fucking hilarious. I’m leveling a rogue for the sole purpose of doing this. It’s /spit all over again but infinitely better
Does anyone else not see how horribly low quality and rushed this is?>Recycled blood elves. >Recycled dragonflight mobs in new faggot race starting zone. >Classes zero changes besides 1 or 2 talents per spec. >Retail UI literal copy and paste. Not a single thing made bespoke for classic. Feels so lazy, unpolished with zero vision.
really? a general for a game that wont be out for another month? shut the fuck up
>>580811603and yet it is still a steaming pile of shit game with no true tile indicator (lol) that somehow manages to be less modern and feature complete than the old school version of the game
>>580811694Our preferred slur is, "Smurf", thank you.
>>580811646do you seriously think like this? soon enough, forever will introduce changes that boomers disagree with and there'll be 3 sides: retail, classic and forever. it's inevitable
I want the opinion of our short king before I make my mind up about this game.
>>580811304Don't believe so, don't got a sub at the moment either but retail did away with them and PvP in favor of war mode. Classic did have one server at a time but I think they did away with it entirely. Closest is some RP guilds that try to do the whole war mode thing but it's not really the same
Doombros, WonneredBrosCan we all at least agree the name WoW: Camelot is better than WoW: Forever?
>>580811594I hope not. Hated /wowcg/ perma nillers doomposting about c+ and now they're gone.
>>580811559>this, and in fact even having tanking as an option will make people seethe because they don't want to be expected to offspec into the roleYup. It was just an idea that sounded worth a test on paper. Didn't actually achieve anything, and arguably was just a nuisance for people not wanting to play roles they didn't sign up for.
>>580811706the 1000 new quests will be worse than if you asked AI
>>580811754all the features in osrs are from a 3rd party client i like the game but holy fuck if you disabled it osrs wouls have 4500 players overnight
What's the prefered slur for skyelf during play-rape session:SmurfBlueberryWind sharkThoughts?
So what happens when Forever has like 14 different raids and 15 new dungeons?
>>580811594Correct. Vanillafags lost, Forever won.
>>580811706did you miss the dungeons? you saw a snapshot of barely anything today. new raids. are you stupid
>>580811260>before it got meta stompedthe boss was rushed down in seconds day 1. ironically enough after the changes came out and a meta established games were actually kind of interesting in that there was some strategy involved but it still came down to who had the most raid groups
>>580811706>Does anyone else not see how horribly low quality and rushed this is?idc, I just want a fresh. New talents are enough for me to be hyped.
>>580811658>Be prot pally>Go into combat>Cast seal of wisdom>Feels like you just got stabbed in the side>Judgement>Stabbed in the side>Holy shield>stabbed in the side>consecration>stabbed in the side>Now the enemy attacks you for the first time after your openerIt doesnt stop anyone but even in a world of heroes it sounds pretty stupid
>>580811725It'll be out thursday sweaty
Retailers will migrate to Forever for a while, find out they're too used to how Retail plays, then migrate back to Retail. Calling it now.Classic sweats will migrate to Forever and Classic end up totally abandoned.
>>580811954Stop asking questions
>>580811952bligger
They said it's about the journey not the destination, but I have a feeling level 60 will take 1d played or some casual shit
>>580811706Recycled assets is fine. It's about how it's used. New Naga/Troll instance? Good.New Dalaran instance? Good.Sky Elves? Retarded.
>>580811641>I think enh will have to go to resto to pick up mana tide + water shieldRe-read Water Shield, anon.
>>580811496desu most furries are either into mascot/cartoony furries or they're into sexy furries and worgen doesn't fit either niche
>>580811142i thought hardcore isnt gonna be there on release?
Doomcels? Lost.Blizzard? Delivered.WoW? Forever.
Total doomer autistic retard death.>Ignore doomer posts>Do not read doomer posts>Let the doomers seethe and cope>Beta is thursday>Era will die>Anni will die>No wotlk for them>No SWP for them>No more gdkp naxx for the 1000th time for themWe VILL play wow forever, we WILL have fun inspite of the crying doomschizo fags, if the game ends up being shit, we simply dont play. This game is NOT our whole life, so it wont matter that much. Unlike these losers.Bloomer chads, rise up.
>>580811243As a fellow RPPVPfag, just make as much noise as possible begging for a realm
>>580810493The cracks are already massive holes xd it's so blatant already what's going to be an issue
>>580812008I will play retail until im bored with current patch then log into forever until new retail patch comes out. Just like I did with classic.Classic will be dead tho.
>>580808876So it's not "classic+" or whatever since the game is obviously going to be designed around quest markers and shitI mean what's the fucking point, man
ugh, I'm going to have to re farm scarab lord aren't I
>>580811954You mean almost like vanilla?You do them when needed?
>>580811706>Classes zero changes besides 1 or 2 talents per spec.
will all this effort reform the sweats from meta-slave raidloggers or are they doomed?
>>580812196thisRetail chads won BIGLY.We will play Forever and Retail.
so are we cooming or are we dooming?
>>580812008I think there's just people who enjoy all three. I predict Forever will be the most popular. There's people who like the Retail Mythic/Raiding/Arena grind and will never abandon that. There's people that like starting over in Classic over and over again. And then there's people who are sane and aren't retarded.
>>580811559>>580811846>expected to offspecjust nut up and don't do it if you don't want to.you people are insane. you can play a DPS warrior and not be "expected" to offtank. or play resto druid and not be "expected" to do balance dps. that shit is not real. i've been "coerced" into DPS'ing instead of tanking ONCE and i sucked so much cock they never asked me to do it again.
>>580812317set toggle to doom
>>580812101oh silly me it appears that I am the retard. my mistakehttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#shaman/60/5505031000000000-053030031005112251-0000000000000000something like this then. pick up clearcasting instead
>>580811825Name is garbage. Genuinely like pic related, some utterly faggy corpo shit.
>>580812317kinda both
wait, Runescape being a sandbox MMO make the classic model viable because stuff getting added is as meaningful as existing content (theoretically), how are they pulling this off with a theme park MMO?
>>580811592this was after the streamer selected a server. it is warmode or the hc buff like sod. selecting pve or pvp is literally just war mode on or off by default.
>>580811629Grifts out
>>580812293nah i think meta slave tryhards will still do their thing, when they talked about the camping thing giving you a buff, i can already see them sweating over that for leveling/dungeons.>LFM RFD MUST HAVE x proffesion and the weakaura to use itjust dont group with those fags, i will roll my raiding char on the pve server to raid with a dadguild that doesnt minmax.
>girl i thought i was going to marry and have a family with broke up with me in April stating we are too different, i had just spend 4k on an engagement ring, returning it was fucking soul crushing>see her face everywhere, hear her laugh when i close my eyes>work is currently going nowhere stuck in middle management (making good money at least) >lost 3 family members this year to old age/illness This year has been fucking awful for me so far. BUT, maybe this is what it all was for, I’m no longer burdened by ties and strings, i can actually fully pivot my entire life to wow forever, forever. I have enough money to play indefinitely. Might even take up streaming so i can fuck an 18 year old once a month hoping to leeech my content to kickstart her onlyfans/twitchwhore career
>>580810678SoD 2.0 would be better than thiseveryone is going to be bored to tears after the first month because it's just another boring tepid take on vanilla
>>580812008I played almost every single retail patch and cant bother login in anymore, game is just that fuckedThe best cope I can muster is that forever success will push them to improve retail, but I cant help but smile while writing that
>>580812407That looks about right.
>>580812134You are a paid shill pajeet
>>580812293Meta-slaves will always meta-slave no matter what you do. Best is to ignore them and just play at your own pace.
>>580812317I think it looks great. I think it would've been better to just put in Blood Elves/Draenei instead of the Sky freaks, but whatever. Does anyone know if there's any info on the PvP system, or if they're going to put in Arena?
>>580811706Everyone around you is a bot
Nerf'd Illumination to 50% why does blizz hate paladins is it really in the spirit of classic if i cant just press 1 button mindlessly
Why such a long beta? Game will be minmaxed and data mined to hell and there'll be nothing new to experince on launch.
>>580812451>selecting pve or pvp is literally just war mode on or off by default.This is fucking retarded if true.
>>580812336>casuals on retail are turbo normies, they will never learn of forever and even if they do they will never move over due to sunk cost>retail sweats will go, look and return.>classic sweats will move into their new forever home and will bitch about balance and not enough content there>classic casuals might or might not move, don't really have a feel for them.
Retailbros are hyped for ForeverClassicbros are hyped for ForeverThird world pserfs are dooming because the mere announcement of Forever has already tanked their shitty chinese malware server population by 40%
>>580812435Implying they even have a plan beyond immediate launch. They had empty space to add zones and dungeons. Eventually we're going to devolve back to>AND THIS ISLAND THAT WAS HERE THE WHOLE TIME!Like retoilet
You guys need your meds.
Any profession info?
Anyone have a list of new racials? I only saw gnome one so far>escape artist: brief immunity to roots and snares>eureka: reduced cost and 10% increased damage or healing on next 3 spells or abilities>expansive mind passive: maximum mana, rage, or energy increased by 5%>engi specialization passive: more reliable engineering devices
>>580812713Tomorrow in the deep dive
>>580811706Not changing that much is a GOOD thing. It's called restraint, and that's positive. They should have restraint with changing things, because Classic WoW is already one of the best games ever. It just needs a few tweaks, and what they did with adding a bunch of TBC spells to classes that needed them is a great idea. I'll agree the sky elves are gay, but whatever. You can ignore them. There's a lot of new zones, dungeons, and it sounds like they get what people like about Classic.
>RP server>either Smurf Druid or Human Hunter or Undead Warlock/Priest/Paladin >not gonna care about min max >will do BGs>will do raids comfy >will RP with others in the downtime>gonna explore the new professions comfily, not go for YouTuber approved meta proffsIt’s going to be so fucking comfy bros, i actually can’t fucking wait
Returning to the game after 8 years. I played for like 8 hours and only one bg queue popped, while I leveled from 29 to 50. Is this normal? Like wtf man. The primary reason I came back was to do pvp.While I'm on the topic of picking up the game after almost a decade, holy fuck have I lost all my ability to use keybindings. I'm slowly but surely getting them down again, but the amount of fat finger or miss keypress right now is disgusting. I'm also hesitant, forgetting where I am in a rotation or situation.Also wasn't expecting my flying mount to fly like a plane. I figured out how to change flight modes.
>>580812713They are removing Engineering because it is dumb
This retard is posting copy paste reddoot posts again. They are seething that theres a new game they dont like that others like. Pathetic.
>>580811954The game gets better and better the more horizontal options there are.The fomo bait of being behind will stop and people will raid things they need gear from or for completion.
What's your last name going to be?I feel like I'm pretty retarded and will just go<Player name> Warlock<Player name> Druid<Player name> Paladin
>>580812751TL;DR insanely skewed towards alliance
>>580812751The most egregious one is the priest specific that gives them an ankh. I’m gonna spam about it in chat on Thursday so that they nerf that shit
>>580812451>this was after the streamer selected a server. it is warmode or the hc buff like sod. selecting pve or pvp is literally just war mode on or off by default.Something has to be missing because selection RP here would be meaningless if it's just the same server as every other option. Do they intend on giving people an RP buff? That's so dumb even Blizzard wouldn't do it.right?
>>580806503Yes.
>>580812759Makes sense, hopefully they don't fuck this up. Professions felt so worthless in classic outside of engineering and maybe knowing an enchanter and a blacksmith>>580812790Doubt it but should neuter it a bit, or rather buff the other professions more
>>580812889All of my characters have RP names or names of my DnD characters so those
more talent theorycraftinghttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#druid/60/00000000000000000-5520002123132213051-0550300000000000ngl anons feral looks fucking cracked. for bear or for cat. 20% extra stamina and even more armor. aoe mangle. increased swipe damage. I love playing a woyer tank but the woyer aoe seems pitiful compared to bear and paladin. Warrior might just be a boss tank and bear + pal for everything else.
Imagine being an Alliance Warlock dealing with Horde having Fear Ward and Undead Paladins everywhere with WOTF. >>580812902Yes, everyone should complain endlessly about the Gnome racials during the beta so they get nerfed. This should be every Horde player's #1 priority.
>>580812451Interesting, it sounds like Hardcore isn't limited to PvE-only transfers this time around, which I guess makes sense if it's all on the same server now for whatever retarded reason.
>>580812751
>>580812075this is an interesting thoughtduring the dungeon demo one of the grifters typed /played and it said 10 hours or some shit, they were level 29 that sounds low, no?
>>580812435yeah idgi either. It will probably be extremely successful at launch, but I don't understand what they're doing to live up to the "forever" part of the name
>>580812890 >>580812902Please show me some
>>580812949I just want to be able to make better gear while leveling and upgrade it. I like making my own shit and it makes leveling more fun.It was one of my favorite things about Ascension.
What's our guild name gonna be?
>>580812890plainswalking is giga though. horde might be more popular since totems are group only and alliance only have ONE shaman class which is fucking stupid meaning everyone will have to be a dorf. alliance is going to be begging for shamans
so where the fuck is /wowcg/ ?
>>580813097shiteaters inc
Of all this shit it somehow feels like Hunter has the least available info despite all the shit they can and should do.>stables>exotic pets>pet rename>pet naming changes to allow spaces and special characters>pet scaling so they don't insta die to a sneeze in raidsand many more
>>580811952Cloudpicker
>>580813017>Imagine being an Alliance Warlock dealing with Horde having Fear Ward and Undead Paladins everywhere with WOTF.And orcs having their own racial for curse immunity.Warlocks should just replace Shamans as Horde's exclusive class at this point.
>>580813041Oh fug thanks
>>580813141>wowcg obliterated>wowg about to die of hypoxywe won, but at what cost
Fear ward looks default
Can anyone link me to a stream that showed the Skyborne starter zone?
>>580813138plainswalking is like 30% movement and only works outdoors. its a dead racial the instant you hit level 40
>>580813138>which is fucking stupid meaning everyone will have to be a dorfThey'd have to add paladins and shit to tauren otherwise
>>580813052yeah but that couldve been just testing for something else. don't think they'd have someone actually level a char in there when they have the devtools. while they did the dungeon they only gained about 4 bars as well.
>>580812905Layers
It’d be pretty kino if they progressed the world on like, quarterly intervals, like if you’ve done say the Karazhan raid you then unlock an upper tower area for high levels to mingle, or like expanding Aerie Peak etc It sounds like it’s already the case but the horde getting access to all of upper lordaeron as an extended capital city seems fucking kino too. It’d make sense for the paladin quarter to be there too.
modern blizzard is basically>the feedback>if we just had more of your feedback we could make the game good>just share your feedback PLEASE>we need your feedback we have no idea how to deliver a product
>>580812890troll regen and planeswalking might not be pvp bis or whatever gay shit but theyre cool as fuckWhich also is a giant problem because the community is already psyop'd into min-maxing from day 1 instead of just having fun
So is Clover Club making a comeback or what?
>>580813252https://www.youtube.com/live/DxtVEhjyROU?si=R-Whtmg0CK7T3H2e&t=12133
where can i see the priest racials
>>580813280Not quite because it's a racial you don't need to click a mount button to stop for 1.5 seconds to cast a mount.I'd say it'll be good for short skirmish fights or quests and kiting mobs.
>>580813138Plainswalking is legit fucking useless besides like 2 use cases, horde got fucked over
I don't trust Blizzard. They're going to screw this up, aren't they? They've voluntarily killed everything within the past decade
>>580813141go make a wowcg>>580813394troll regen also looks disgusting. troll rogue will be grief level of wpvp. >imp gouge>troll racial>gained 50% hp back
>>580813328>LayersGood enough then. So long as the play styles are separated.
>WE NEED FEEDBACK>99% don’t want retail UI LETS PUT RETAIL UI IN CLASSIC+
So you think Clover Club's reforming for this slop?
>>580813084Yeah i've done those kind of self-crafted challenges myself, it's fun but hopefully will also be viable
>>580813405RIPIP is
>>580813394Which is why you role on an RP server where the biggest focus is just having fun But you won’t because you’re probably FOMO on falling behind everyone for not being optimal
>>580812134>FrierenOf course you like tranny games as well.
>>580813406Thanks, but man I hate that guy.
so are they gonna make menethil a blue zone so boats don't get camped or at least move the zeppelins out of safe zones
>>580813606cope faggot.
>>580813519all you had to do was share your feedback...
>>580813492People thought recuperate was bad but this shit on rogues will be so grief. And on the other side you got gnome rogues raping you with 10% extra dmg on opener
>>580813406wtf they sound just like blood elves
>>580813627our xarGAWD gave us ploos
ret paladins need more buffs tbqh
>>580813394>but theyre cool as fuckIt sounds cooler than what it actually is.In reality and actual gameplay you're just walking ahead and slowly reach a worse aspect of the cheetah speed.And troll regen is even worse because ANYTHING you do instantly cancels it.
>>580812771$30 faggot elves.
>>580813405Grey parsers rise upWe'll try again this time not in EU serversGathering anons to play on EU servers sucked for SOD. There was barely any of us.Maybe WoW Forever actually turns out good though and brings in all the players back
>>580813070if they're willing to add dynamic systems to make the world immersive i can see this going somewhere but atp it's just like another season of classic
>>580813052Leveling speed was clearly not meaningfully changed. But the toons they were playing were close to leveling up, so my guess is they had to make toons of a certain level then play them to get just enough exp for the streamers to ding in the dungeon.
>>580812751this shit is so ridiculous>eureka: reduced cost and 10% increased damage or healing on next 3 spells or abilitiesthis alone is 2 insane buffs. for gnome rogues, the energy reduction is literally what every other race have to spend 2 talents on. and then>expansive mind passive: maximum mana, rage, or energy increased by 5%literally another 2 free talent points to Gnomes because everyone else has to get Vigor.
>>580813421https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#priest/60/000000000000000000-00000000000000000-000000000000000000New Priest abilitiesBaseline spells the Forever talent tooltips mention that do not exist in Classic. Inferred from tooltip text; exact spell tooltips are not public until the beta.Shadow Word: Death Execute-style Shadow spell; mentioned by Early Demise.Devouring Plague Appears to be a normal Shadow spell now rather than an Undead racial; mentioned by Devouring Contagion.Priest racial spellsFrom the BlizzCon demo. Fear Ward is now baseline for every Priest. Troll and Night Elf spells have not been seen yet; tooltips are filled in as they surface.UndeadDark Sacrifice Instant, 10 min cooldown. Cannibalize 720 of your own Health over 15 sec to gain 720 Mana. (Rank 2, level 38 values.)DwarfChastise Holy damage plus a short root, as in TBC.Desperate Prayer Instantly heals you, as in TBC.GnomeConfounding Flash Area crowd-control cooldown.Contingency Plan Reported to work like Guardian Spirit: prevents a death and heals instead.HumanDivine Grace Cooldown that removes Weakened Soul from the target and heals them.
>>580813671yeah rogues are going to be an even worse menace in wpvp. troll/ud/human/dorf/gnome rogues all received huge benefits from the racials. if shadowmeld works to increase your stealth level then the crit chance will also be bigly
>orcs lose stun immunity>gnomes become gods>humans keep perception and have a stun removal
>>580813706all of the memespecs do. ele shaman and balance druid still dont have a mana solve. shadow might just be there but it remains to be seen
>>580812902GS is not Ankh you fucking retard.
what are the chances blizzard actually spends the money to stop botting and gold sellers this time?
i am once again posting to declare that if blizzard does not nerf gnomes in the beta i am gonna shit my fucking pants how about dem apples
>>580813041>human gets crit chance AND remove all stun effects>night elf get 10% crit chance>alliance skyborne get 100% increased hp and mana regen>gnomes become gods>tauren can find some herbs lol>if you're undead you may rarely steal a little bit of hp>horde skyborne just get a temporary 10% run speed buff>troll berserking nerfedwhat the fuck
>>580813676>>580813406>banu lalahahaha.
>>580813843Gnome Priest chads stay winning BIGLY
>>580813843>gnome priest aoe cc and death protection
Have they said anything about whether GDKPs will be allowed?
>>580813535>>580813520>>580813405You gotta give it a relevant pun likeRIP in Perpetuityor Clover Club Plus
>>580813676they are literally just recolored blood elves with assets from retail
>>580814075>Have they said anything about whether GDKPs will be allowed?They god damn better not be or game is doa
>Arms warr gets overpower on rend proc but only usable on primary target.>Instant attack that can dismount you.>Not a single thing changed with base abilities. >They will eventually add new $30 classes, which will be retail slop more than likely and better than everything else. Bros we are soooooooooooooooooooooooooo back, this will forever revolutionize the game.
>>580813225Seething nillafags. It's as if I've been paid to win.
>>580813994the alliance skyborn evocate thing is a short buff with a cast time and a CD and does not give in combat regen. its basically an accelerated eat/drink while leveling every couple of minutes. its much worse than I thought it was at first glance
good to see horde racials getting shit on
damn blizzard can really make anything and their fans will buy it.
>WoW: Forever>EoS in under a year>pservers return and mog Blizz even more
>>580813570I'm rolling rp-pvp if it exists but i'd rather have a fun pvp experience instead of a boring rp-pve experience
>>580814134GDKP is fine if theres no RMT
twistchads... we're going home
>>580814263This is the reality is anyone doomposting is just a brown third-worlder who can't afford the subscription so they're buttmad about their poorfag private servers closing down.
>>580807972>>580808264Exactly. Fuck that nigger. Do whatever the fuck you want.
my initial response to the forever announcement was kind of lukewarm, but there are 17 fat swarthy men on twitch telling me it's the greatest thing blizzard has ever done, and they can't all be wrong
>>580814217>their fans will buy it.Everyone in this thread and everyone who currently cares about wow already pays the subscription.Youre 100% a queer if you buy the pig elf bundle though
>>580814447>implying im subbedlmao
>>580813994Retail devs all play alliance. In fact retail is totally centered around the alliance, the horde just sort of exists in the background doing nothing. I wouldn’t expect horde to be treated equally going forward. Blizzard is full of troons and women playing pretty girl characters now.
home...
You were promised this three thousand years ago, but blizzard still denies your birthright
Do we know approximately how long it will take to hit 60? Same as 'nilla or accelerated?
>>580814447>already pays the subscription.I don't. But I very well may for this. Having to pay $30 for sex elves has me more than a little miffed, though.
>>580814531>filtering the russians foreveryes please
I'm thinking tauren balance druid world pvp troll. Plains running seems busted if it works how I'm thinking it does.
What the fuck happened to the ability to get other racials through gameplay they added in sod?what was the fucking point?
>>580814447I was just visiting the ceegee to see what the ploos announcement was. it doesn't look like enough for me to resub.
>>580814560it will probably be faster because they are adding quests and contentdoubt it'll be accelerated with a buff or increased gains
>>580813880Well meld is an extra vanish at the very least, should give stealth level as before too, 1% dodge and 2% move speed is also nice (works in stealth). Nelf rogues unironically looking pretty sweet too
>>580814560Everything I saw on stream suggests leveling is unchanged. It'll probably be faster just by virtue of the fact that you can likely quest all the way to cap without having to grind, though.
>>580813843are those actually the new talents and racials? these guys are allergic to anything original. they would rather have their skulls ripped off than invent something new
>rewatching the blizzcon stream>one of you autistic schizos in the chatlmfao.
Who has been the best vanilla tank? Prot Warrior over Prot Paladin and Druid right?
Blizzard's aversion to High Elves is approaching the pathological.>Forever offers a perfect chance to give High Elves to Alliance and Blood Elves to Horde without TBC attached>do basically that but make them yet another bizarre fanfic elven race nobody asked forThis is actually just Ion never wanting to eat his words on Helves and willing to bend over backwards to prevent that from ever happening.
>battlegrounds>neutered world pvpnah. was fun to look at the video tho
>>580814663so uh you're gonna plainsrun while casting your 3 second meme spell twice before going oom?
If WC3 has added the Forsaken Paladins & this new lore, then Forever has added Forsaken Paladins, does that mean that Forever is now considered the canon WoW that follows on from WC3 and Retail is now non-canon?
>>580814758Prot warrior was the only vanilla tankPal and drood barely registered as party members
>>580814534whats with the bizarre proportions
>>580814752Guarantee this guy was shilling for ascension.
>>580814665SoD was one big testing ground. It's clear that they determined a lot of the shit was not well-received.
what the fuck is going on with gnomes>escape artist instant cast and provides short immunity>damage increase cooldown>more energy and rage>priests get aoe cc and guardian spirit
>>580814873>homosexual outs himself
>This is literally the only changes for arms. Defend this blizzcucks.
Reading these professions kind of made me cringe. Who wrote these quirk chungus millennial-esque descriptions?
>>580814823there are forsaken paladins in retail lore, you just can't play as one
>>580814772>im not happy cause i got the wrong elves!stfu faggot. you sound like a 8yold crying at his mom that she got the wrong kind of cereal.
>>580814896>It's clear that they determined a lot of the shit was not well-received.Literally everyone loved that thoughever
>>580814737You could already do that in Vanilla thoughbeit.
>rip the good content offf of turtle while scraping the garbage>kill pservers forever>infinite fresh classicYes the recolored blue elves are retarded but who cares. This is literally all we ever wanted. Classic with infinite progression without expansions. No longer solved 20 year old content, probably balancing patches forever to keep metas fresh. No class is gonna feel like cuck for more than a few content patches at a timeI’m home, I’m buying the beta and smurfs. I’m playing an undead on Thursday, I’m gonna try the Smurf starter zone. And then I’m gonna enjoy the beta until October 21
>>580814897imagine rogues had shadowstep on top of that gnomish racial, a mage wouldnt be able to get away.
>>580814897i would once again like to reiterate that if this shit isn't nerfed during beta my pants will be FILLED with my OWN POOPY. BLIZZARD, FIX IT NOW!!!!
>>580814772It's obvious that their plan is to make races paid DLC packs moving forward, like how you pay $30 for Skyborne. They're probably going to do a paid DLC race pack for High Elves/Blood Elves. It's a lot of work to release them right now because they'd have to re-do the entire Blood Elf zone which is based on them traveling to Outlands/following Kael. They'll wait till they don't have to redo the Blood Elf zones & they're sending us to Outlands.
>>580814921post them
>>580814963You really couldn't. There are gaps. Especially for Horde.
>>580814963I've never managed, you would need a lot of rested or do dungeons. I reach 58 and a half or so generally speaking just questing and run out.
>>580814915All three specs barely got anything at all. Truly a perfect class.
>>580814915go back to your pserver, oh wait. there isnt one. HAHAHAHA>>580814965same im gonna buy the epic version, and fuck around on beta a bit thursday, decide what ill main in november.
>>580814794I'm gonna run around as an uncatchable fuck dotting everything and spamming roots on multiple targets simultaneously.
Looks like rogues can use axes based on this tooltipmace ability seems kinda good...
>>580814823Forsaken Paladins are also being added to retail in 12.2. And Forsaken have always been able to be Priests. I don't understand this widespread notion that Forsaken using the light is some kind of major retcon.
>>580815021https://forever.oxm.gg/forever/professions
>>580815104>rogues will now roll on deathbringer, nef axe etc along with swordsFUCKING YELLOWS
but will whitemane's chapeau show hair
>>580815060Arms got perfected in wrath, its dogshit in classic if you care about anything that isn't the dps meter and warrior will 100% not be the best at that anymore if sod devs have anything to do with it. If warrior isn't allowed to be top on damage, its a worthless class.
>>580814952Go to bed, Ion.
>>580814447I haven't subbed in years. I'm going to play this tho.
>druids can now root 3 players at a timeHoly fuck I’m going to camp the ever loving fuck out of the 1KN elevator just rooting alliance players until they jump off
>>580815154looks like alch and engi are meta
>>580815043Oh so if you just ignore a huge portion of the content in the game, dungeons. Then yes you might have to grind. But that still makes the statement a lie.>>580815038Horde has more quests than alliance retardkun. I have leveled countless characters to 60 on a variety of pservers and classic. There has never been a time where I just had to grind. There was never a time where there wasn't some quest I could find someone for. You would have to ignore dungeon quests and groups quest like some sperg to make this argument approach reality.
>>580815145They did famously outright say that Forsaken channeling the Light were in agony the whole time, and that Forsaken Priests were canonically virtually all Shadow Priests.
>>580814915wars were already one expac aheadthey'll be fine
>>580815154looks like it's just that site writing the descriptions and not ingame tooltips
the only way i will use transmog is if they add picrel somehow. this is the best looking set for a rogue. cant change my mind
looking at rogue talents and the new racials.... yellows are going to be even bigger menaces in wpvp
>an entire month so everyone can get full bis before the raids come outwhy tho
>>580815197back of the line, brown boythis ain't era anymoreyellow chads eat first
>>5808151043% is less than an extra weapon swing
Human>Warrior>Hunter [N]>Mage>Rogue>Priest>Warlock>PaladinDwarf>Warrior>Hunter>Rogue>Priest>Paladin>Shaman [N]Night Elf>Warrior>Hunter>Rogue>Priest>DruidGnome>Warrior>Mage>Rogue>Priest [N]>WarlockSkyborne [N]>Warrior>Hunter>Mage [A]>Rogue>Druid>Shaman [H]Orc>Warrior>Hunter>Mage [N]>Rogue>Warlock>ShamanUndead>Warrior>Mage>Rogue>Priest>Warlock>Paladin [N]Tauren>Warrior>Hunter>Druid>ShamanTroll>Warrior>Hunter>Mage>Rogue>Priest>Warlock [N]>Shaman
so wait is disc priest getting Atonement or not?
>>580815386wow classic is for 40+ year olds
>>580815276Retarded, the true end game is enchanting and blackmith for profession only unique enchants
>>580807298>>580806386The many shapes of Ion
>>580815386you are so fucking autistic and doomer, theres another way to see it>1 whole month so you dont need to rush to 60 like a spastic and actually have fun leveling without needing to stay up 18 hours a day like a fucking spastic.
Why would they call it "forever"? Couldn't come up with a more cringe name?>Guys guys we friggin playing FOREVER>Me love you FOREVERIt's so cringe
>>580810783yarp
>>580815386most people have jobs and probably won't even be level 60 by dec 9
>>580815386you would rather rush to 60 in a week and start farming molten core in greens at level 58?
>>580815386That's good though. Do you want only poopsocks to raid week 1 etc?
>>580815528fuck yeah
>>580815462nohttps://forever.oxm.gg/forever/talents/priest
what was the point of this?
>>580815409hey man im gonna main rogue, but i will make a warr alt cause warrs are fun.>>580810783good, tanks should be tanks and gear towards defense and avoidance their threat should come from abilities not gear. the focus should be to be as tanky as possible.
Sharding = DOAWhy dont blizzdrones makes a bigger stink about this?
>>580815386holy shit you have a whole new world with like 7 dungeons and you want shit to drop asap one month after release?
>>580815617money
>>58081547225% increase from elixirs and flasks is absolutely insane.Neither the blacksmithing nor enchanting (nor tailoring nor leatherworking) bonuses ever oughtweighed sappers and other engi tools in the past, and I doubt they will change that here.
>>580815425I thought I saw a male night elf mage or warlock in the trailer, was that a priest instead
I don't think there would be much dooming if Holly didn't add her retarded OC donut steal race into the game or better yet if they actually gave alliance High Elves and horde Blood Elves
why did some of the announcers seem like they were on the verge of tears?
>>580815665Which is not gonna last, same as many of these dumb racials.It also depends on a lot of other factors
>>580815528>you would rather rush to 60 in a week and start farming molten core in greens at level 58?anyone not doing this is a scrub
>>580815767Stage fright.
>>580815617asian market
can you /wspg/ rejects go be schizos somewhere else? we get it, you have no servers to play on anymore. we dont care. kys or stop posting.
>>580815767Because they had literally nothing to show and were scared to get lashed out by the crowd (which they won't because Blizzdrones are a cult). That's why half of every speech consisted of how much they love their job and their cult
have you seen how ridiculous some of the questions are for the Q&A?housing? sky elves in retail? level scaling? flex raiding?what is wrong with these people?https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/submit-your-question-for-the-live-wow-qa-on-september-17/2347251/31
>>580815505i prefer deep prot being more viable. but it definitely seems that the tanking trio will be >Paladin AoE king, solid MT>Druid Solid AoE, high damage, big soak for MT>Warrior AoE non existent? unless tclap is majorly buffed. Giga scaling and threat and survivabilityI do not want to tank in dungeons without some AoE. Don't need it to be retail but don't make it awful
>>580810004It's not just a chance. Blizzard doesn't take risks in 2026. They knew it was going to be massive. Plus WoW had had hundreds of millions of players over the years, but only like 2 mill right now play Retail (if that many), so Forever casts a much larger net even inside the Blizzard space, let alone the normie sphere.
>>580815617Elves sell
>>580815886there literally are cosmetics for retail though
>>580815886these "people" need to be castrated
cant wait for more kino reveals tommorow on the deep dive. we gonna eat good bros. let the faggots from /wpsg/ seethe. they got no servers they got no bitches, they got dads.
I think my biggest gripe with the smurfs is just how fucking weird the blue looks on the classic backdrop. Every picture and video I’ve seen of them so far makes them look like some sprite from a 90s game. They stick out like sore thumbs. The one in the trailer looks fine. And the black ones unironically look fine too, it’s the sickening blue tone
>>580815639yes
>>580815623what are you excited for rogue about?
so are we getting dual spec or?
>>580815886Housing would be kinda kino thoughever, fits with the community design and was already planned for vanilla.The problem is blizz would ruin it through mtx.
>>580815886>classic+ isn't being made for youyou now understand what they meant.
remove petri>remove petriremove petri>remove petriremove petri>remove petri
>>580816081sub looks fun, has potential to be super bursty in pvp, might be viable in pve too with certain gearing will depend how they do tier sets etc. would be fun to see another spec other than combat be viable for pve, also seems they are making being the expose armor cuck easier, if you look at the talent.
>>580815617to get women to play horde
>>580815617elves are the most popular race in all versions of the game.you are not the target audience.
Why would anyone pay money to be a beta tester?
>>580815996sexy elves sell, the cinematic trailer elf would sell because she's cute, the in game models we've seen are lame and gay retail tranny safe horny dog shit
>>580816295but I can be an elf without paying an extra $30
thinking of starting a Channel where I play WoW Forever on the side.
>>580816331>homosexual lashes outclassic
>>580815886Well, what's your question that's so much better?
rage is normalized in forever
>>580815585>>580815462This seems to scream "Priests will get atonement as a tier set bonus or trinket later" because all of these disc damage talents are gonna be useless otherwise
>>580816329For me it's just an early look into it to see if it's shit or nah, but you could watch a stream I guess.
>>580815225it literally already exists in the game
all classic+ needed was a director with a VISION instead of this design by feedback committee
Lot of the classes seem like they need 40-60 skills because they are pretty dogshit with whats been revealed
forever is just another sod people will be bored of in a monthhave fun raidlogging hyjal and ony for 7 months
>>580815886tbf that's a logical question, a lot of people in retail only play for the fomo rewards so they can flex on other peopleIf a new wow version become the mainline and doesnt transfer over their achievements then those people are kinda fucked
>>580816662that's fascism. this is liberalism.
Mages got shit talents because only Niggers and Jeets play Mage. Stay losing, browns. White men play Melee
>>580816537Well that and disc is the pvp tree so it always had these DMG and hit talents
>>580816739>Mages got shit talentsMages got the best talents though
>>580815886I don't see what's wrong with having housing in Forever. Just don't access it if you don't want to use it, lol. Peak retardism to not want it added.
>>580816471if sonic and tails had sex which one would get pregnant?
>>580816596your character looks like this with it equippedthe hairstyle is not visible like it is on her
>>580816115it's in every version of wow so assumed yes.
>camping with random stranger>he gets layered
>doesn't have exponentially scaling, farmable grinds like osrs or bdo>doesn't have seasonal/catchup based system like wow or ffxivlegitimately what is their plan? If new raids introduce gear creep you will still have to progress through all the raids and be permanently the day 1 autists because of weekly lockout. If they don't there'll be no reason to play the new content or the game at all.I seriously can't imagine what level of slurp you have to be on to eat up this same "classic+" rugpull AGAIN.
>>580816662probably why people prefer private servers
>>580816329I don't get it. They should pay me to beta test their game. Imagine going in a timemachine to 30 years ago and tell developers they should charge their beta testers instead of paying them a salary. This world just doesn't make sense.
Seeing how halo infinite went, and how they went for virtually the same title and blue hottie to sell it… my hopes aren’t high
>>580816115yes, seen 2 tabs on a stream playing beta
holly won brosshe fucking won
>>580816835Tails. Next.
so do you guys think they were taking no damage in the skyborne starting zone because they have retail scaling, or because they didn't want people getting killed in the demo?
>>580816798>Frost gutted to keep third worlders from RWT>Fire got next to nothing>You vill play ze arcane mageNaw homie. Mage is currently cuck chair status.
>>580816892>Camping in the barrens with the boys under the moonlight>Blue *lf walks in and tries to sit down>We all immediately pack up and split
>>580816413in your dreams, srry if I offended you but I'm not in the mood to have my totally normal and beneficial to society heterosexuality gate kept by individuals that think castration and extreme genital mutilation is a form of healthy and sane primary care
why would you play this pozzed shit when they violate the first amendment
>>580816964>blue hottietrying too hard
>>580817098>Fire got next to nothing>Hot Streak>Next to nothing
>>580807690All that nonsense just to outdps your entire spellbook with your gravestone scepter until mid 30s
>>580817064No clue but I did notice the hp regen even on 30-40 characters seemed really high so I'm kind of afraid you won't need food or first aid that much
i want more world events. holidays are my favorite times in wow. i'm disappointed that forever is starting after halloween.
>all these new/updated zones and i'm just gonna dungeon spam anywayand why wouldn't i? questing with people is tedious and i don't play online games to play by myself.
>>580817125incredibly based titty poster. thank you
>>580817125>responds with porn sicknessyou really are retarded
>>580817098>Frost gutted>Fucking ICE LANCE and fingers of frost in vanillanigger is you serious
>>580817221>i'm disappointed that forever is starting after halloween.That's good because it means halloween can get a lot of new content next year when stuff like xmas probably won't get much, if any
Why do they allow a mentally ill man to cosplay as Jaina?
>>580817186>Fire got watered down hotstreakThats it? Truly the best talents out of all the classes.
>>580817098how did frost get gutted
>blizzard literal taking the piss at mazies that they will pay forevercan't even be mad I applaud them
is there a place to see the new spells and talents or is that still hidden?
I saw it on a stream but I didn't see the description of gear specialization. Are paladins not going to be wearing dresses anymore?
so are we just supposed to pretend the jailor isn't doodoofarting on everyone? how can i be immersed when we're all pawns in the jailor's game?
>>580817291>let>californiabro its his god damn right you bigoted chud
How are the other tanks looking as far as a viable alternative to brown forever and ever?
>>580817352You can't take my dress
how long are we thinking until they cave and add retoilet stats like haste/mastery
>>580817357Retail is no longer canon. Only Forever & WC3 are canon now.
>>580817357Not canon
I'm a retail bab, is holy pally a good healer in classic?
>>580817434I want to retire with a cute Draenei wife in the Swiss countryside...
>>580817428>>580817430>arthas and illidan are still aliveebin
>>580817434not until wrath
>>580817357>so are we just supposed to pretend the jailor isn't doodoofarting on everyone?That's exactly what we're supposed to do. The Burning Crusade never released. Have fun.
>>580817391Druid looks good, Pala has taunt but idk
>>580817434>is holy pally a good healer in classicyeah they're fine can go any raid
>>580817434the only thing theyre were good at>>580817480this is essentially wow 2
i want to vote for shit. i feel like my ability to "give feedback" is pretty limited. people who use the official forums are retarded.
im reading rogues combo points switch to their new target automatically? sugoi
Man what the fuck do I play for 7 weeks?
>>580817471>cute Draenei wifeLook fellas... I want it to stay classic... but maybe they can add the space goats... maybe...
>>580817480Yeah, hopefully they go the way of not making everyone into laughable Scooby Doo villains. Illidan and Kael should be anti-heroes that use demonic power for good and make questionable decisions.
>>580817591>check official forums >someone says they dont like something>at least 2 replies saying "ummm then just quit???"
Druids won classic+>Boomkin is now viable in PvP and PvE>feral cat is now insane in both>feral bear is obviously going to be the best tank in the first patch cuz of furlbolg raid favouritism>resto no longer just meme spec to bring for CR
>>580817572>>580817572>>580817572>>580817572>>580817572NEW BREAD>>580817572>>580817572>>580817572migrate
>>580817626pay the 30$
>>580817357who the fuck is the jailor
>>580817710no
>>580817612But we still can't charge in combat. Fucking hate these biased SODomy devs.
>>580817626I've been playing Spyro the Dragon
>invite streamersfags to get advice on what classic+ should be>ignore their advice>have streamerfags give hints that classic+ is happening to generate hypekekaroo
>>580817403I'm with you. Pallys being able to take cloth and clothys not being able to take anything but cloth is terrible design.
>>580817480I hope Anub'arak plays a major role in the story so I can listen to his wonderful growly voice
>>580817772kek its honestly sad they do this shit after groveling for feedback
>>580817774i rolled a plate wearer for a reason. i will take your clothes. and my clothes too.
>>580815617My dick.
>>580806234at least put classic in the op still or wowcg so it's easier for people to search for
>>580817258of course you would have a melty seeing anything that depicts normal female attractiveness and to no one's surprise you try to characterize it as a sickness, all the while you encourage children to throw away their innocence so men in drag with mustaches can perform live strip teases in front of them for the sake of inclusivity, which you consider stunning and brave
>>580817626spend $80 and get the beta starting on Thursday
>>580817493wrong, classic holy paladins were the most mana efficient healers in the game
>>580816923Theyve already demonstrated ideas in sod. Resistance checks, alternate difficulty modes for mofe loot/rare items like mounts, long quest lines that require specific raid mats, and very slowly - aVery slowly - inflate item ilvl and only if you have absolutely no choice.Like imagine a debuff of -50% damage in Raid X but wearing 4 pieces of gear from previous raid Y removes the debuff.There are plenty of ways to do horizontal progression and chasing the ilvl increase is how we got here in the first place, invalidating everything that came before.
>>580816923It's Blizzard. They have no plan except to try and capitalize on their golden goose + community hype, and they will eventually fail because they dont know what they're doing. Just like how they've screwed up and killed everything in the past decade+
>>580818164>posting ai jeet porn sicknessoh and you are self admitting autismyou are useless to society lmao
>>580818796they are just gonna keep slamming in more paid races and cosmetics for max jew monetization made by jeet fiverr retail 3d modellers that look nothing like retail art direction that its gonna kill it in the end. instead of just keeping the sub numbers with passionately made new content theyll just keep chasing shit ass monetization models which means going after retail brained niggers that swipe their card for new slop shop item
What's with the retail tranny in this thread dooming 1 hour into the announcement.
>>580818956>oh and you are self admitting autism>you are useless to society lmao
>alliance already has night elves which look great in HD models and will have good animationsSo are Blueberry elves nothing but a tranny horde/druid tax?
>>580807185Everything I love has been changed to everything I hate. Fuck off you disingenuous asshole.
>>580814952False comparison. A parent may not be able to pick up the cereals kid want because they weren't available in store. Even then, a parent could just come back empty handed and it would be more appropriate. It's actually better to give nothing then to give the wrong thing.
