New Racials EditionWhat is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alonehttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1
op demands wow gooning content
Mage players got cucked.
>salty title from fishing>titleIt’s over. Literally cheevos titles and cosmetics right out the gate
i am excited. i have spent all afternoon watching the streams and posting in threads. it's not even hopium i checked the tank and it's totally empty. i've got a good feeling about this.
>boomkin gets 60% reduced mana wrath spam, innervate, 30% in combat regen, among all the horizontal progression gear they are addingi might actually be able to enjoy this version of wow
>>580817572where to see new skills and talents?
>>580817572Is it just me or is alliance better for both pve and pvp?
priest hereshould i go human for permanent +5% spirit and +2% crit chance or ne for a 10% crit chance for 15 seconds?
>skyborne will top the logs in mcthat's annoying
thinking of buying Beta Access and then making a WoW Forever focused YouTube Channel /v/ros...I think I could become a WoW Sensation on the Side. Streaming. Saying "YOOO DUUUDE"
>>580817572>Cannibalize restores Mana nowwew lad, gonna be eating GOOD in Forever.
They should have ported wrath class design into the lvl 60 world. These devs are too biased to make good class design for each spec. Fat fuck aggrend will 100% make ret the no 1 spec in every category possible.
>>580817710$30 doesn't get you access to the beta you know that right?
>>580817814Titles are fine nigger fuck off, of all the shit to complain
Will new raids require attunement?
>>580817901>I think I could become a WoW Sensation on the Side.You could at the very least become successful
>>580817572>human gets 2% crit while wielding a sword>dwarf gets 1% crit while wielding a mace>orc gets 1% crit while wielding an axewhat the fuck is this shit?
>>580817572so its going to be mostly dwarf shamans and skyborne in beta it looks like maybe a few undead pallys
>>580817756How so?
>>580817889wait until we see the priest racials
Anyone play the new WC3 campaign yet? How is it?
When is the Beta?
>>580817814>Grand Marshal Xxlegolasxx
>>580818056sept 17-oct 24
>>580818052I have yet to see anyone say anything negative about it. My only gripe is I prefer the base building focus than the Rexxar style campaign setup.
They killed a handful of private servers, yet their own Classic+ project has less content than any of themForever also looks and sounds like a Retail expansion>1 allied race>4 zones>8 dungeons>x raids with up to 8-9 raid bosses in total>2 new features, camping and legacy
>>580817901who was that tranny that did a series on youtube that was actually really good? i remember something about farming to get into AQ? i think they were a rogue?
>>580818007Which class has it worse right now?
>>580817976orcs are also 1%. not sure why humans are 2%.
>>580817923It also doesn't specify humanoid/undead corpses? I'm guessing the person writing that just left that bit out, because it wouldn't actually be cannibalism otherwise.
doomers are right about one thing, im a retailfag and i think i’ll play the fuck out of this. blue elves are fucking gay though but people were constantly bitching about no high elves so don’t know why there are faggots seething that badly over them
>>580817861new talents herehttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#paladin/60/000000000000000000-5500513321001251-550200301010000000Working on a prot paladin spec. I did not see spiritual attunement so I took all of the mana abilities because that is by far Prot Pals biggest problem (other than taunt that was solved) Now this works out, but you do not get the 10% armor increase which makes you squishier which you already kind of are due to not having giga scaling talents like Warrior or Bear. I'll have to see how problematic mana is but something like this would be the spec.
Im not going to watch a single stream or video of beta Im going to wait for the game to release and then immerse myself without having seen any of the new content Im going to actually read every quest text to immerse myself in the zones tooI’ll take months to level to 60 playing occasionally hopefully making 1 or 2 ingame friends along I won’t look up what the best spec meta is but just experiment on my own even if it is inefficient
>>580817572>wotf nerfthank fucklooks like Tauren are eating good though1% hit?!?
>>580690942i was close on the date
>>580818167I figured it was a typo yeah
>>580818193>Reading LGBT AI slop quests.LOL LMAO
I’m gonna be a Smurf Druid and you can’t stop me>balance is strong now>feral is super strong now>bear talents rival warrior>resto no longer CR bot>unique formsSoul I will say tho these blue elves look like they came out of shadowlands
i really wish these graphics had unnecessary bloom and volumetric fog...
>>580818196finally classic balanced pvpsomehow even the pservers oversighted wotfs
Two questions.>Will I be able to transfer a classic character to forever?>What is legacy?
>>580818103There's no base building missions?
do i need a job now to play this game?fuuuuuuck
>>580818290>unnecessary bloom they already do
>>580818271Hmm good point 1000+ quests they bragged about means it’s probably just ai sloppa right?
>>580817969I appreciate the encouraging words.I got a good YouTube channel idea for WoW forever.
>>580817572why are the weapons so overtuned in the demo?sleepwalker is as good as vanilla rod of ogre magiare the mobs faceroll now?
>>580817943oh wow you're right. SIXTY DOLLARS to get to play it. what are they smoking.
>>580818181Looking at it more, reckoning might not be needed at all and those 3 points would be better put into toughness. Reckoning builds would be for dungeons or AoE farming. Remains to be seen if people would want a Paladin MT though and then Toughness is not needed. Many questions, no one say spiritual attunement right?
>>580817572Yoooo, what the fuck are these racials. Forever servers will be 80% alliance all the time
>>580818305No.Alt garbage.
I think I'll get 4 characters to 60 before raid opens... yeah... maybe 5... we'll see...
>>580818451>Alt garbageWhat specifically?
>>580817572Undead Rogue looks to be the worst possible combo
>>580818125I don't know I didn't watch that.
from the trailerwetlands -> southshore boat so you dont need to run all the way through wetlands and arathi?
>>580818193>highest iq itt
>>580818357Blizzards most recent unionization has it in their CBA that AI usage is limited
>>580818178>t one thing, im a retailfag and i think i’ll play the fuck out of thisYou best turn right around and head on back home to retoilet. We don’t take kind to you folks ‘round ‘ere.
>>580818447It's actually probably better to be Horde because the Alliance racials will all get nerfed in beta.
>>580818512wtf is that water
>>580818485Its a talent system that revolves around non essential shit like exp boosts and rep boosts that you get points for via leveling more characters.
>no content planned past summer>"horizontal progression" (you can farm cheevos and level alts.. forever)SoD, but more boring. Welcome to World of Warcraft: Joever.
>>580818560Optional rendering in zones
>>580817572For me, it's tauren hunter.
>>580818560water has motion now so rivers flow, oceans have waves, etc
Are healing mage/tank locks/melee hunters/tank rogues dead?
>>580818512looks like the turtle unreal client with all this fog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygfvy0fcT_0
>>580818193>Im going to actually read every quest text
Can already tell druid healers got shafted for raids. Everyone will want disc priests for PI, shaman for every group for totems, and few palas for blessing. Meanwhile boomie and feral druid give 3% crit but resto brings nothing
>>580818605it clashes and looks like shit
>>580818158>ice lance>fingers of frost>hot streak >arcane blast>missile barrageSeems good to me
Classic plus needs>THIS>>580818164
>defiance needs shield equippedso if you need a shield to survive and just defensive stance threat bonus is not enough warrior tanking is dead since paladin does aoe better and druid does everything betterfury talents on the other hand are just vanilla with even more buffs lmao so its brown dps stack with shamans anyway
>>580818589Okay so you don't actually ear the rep and XP for alts, it just gives you boosts?
>>580818357>These are the only changes to arms after multiple "years" of development.>All of the "new" assets are just copy and paste from retail. There is not a single chance in hell that a human wrote all 1000 quests, this is a cash grab by Xbox.
>>580818652BLIZZARDHIRE THIS MAN
>>580817572>Shatter Curse>WotF on paladins>fear ward on ALL priestsWhy does blizzard want alliance warlock to be unplayable?
>>580818691Correct, it just makes it slightly easier to level your next character.
0-1 lock2-3 sham4-5 priest6-7 druid8-9 sham
they need to granular toggles for which race you want to use hd models for.I only want them for night elves and trolls and maybe orcs, the other hd models look worse than vanilla
>doomfaggots are eracuck warrior playersshould have known
I'm going paladin first, but should I do rogue or mage second?
>>580818357>thinking it takes much time to write high school english vanilla writing questsyou are retarded
>>580818691You get points through specific achivements.You can use those points for stuff like>more honor>more exp>faster talent gain (still limited to the usual)>no reagentsetcSome are nice, some are quite gay
>>580817814Titles existed in vanilla you cum-gargling waste of oxygen.
>>580818601Me too. Normally main nelf hunter but my heart belongs to tauren and I'd like be a tank chad this time round.
>>580818718they apparently did
If this shit isn't a deal breaker for you, you should kill yourself. You give them an inch and they will take a mile, eventually.
I'm going to play rsham + rsham + rsham + rsham. Maybe a druid for pvp.
>>580818861only pvp rankseven scarab lord didn't give you the title until tbc
>>580818689there's a lot of strength/damage scaling in the prot tree now https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/05320003000000000-030000000000000000-2523010330010105351here's an example. now this could change depending on how good tclap is. could move the cruelty points into that. I do not see it being mentioned at all though that PROT WARS CAN CHARGE IN COMBAT. Mobility gods in raids
I wonder if plainsrunning works in combat.
>>580818409Playing on people's emotions of not wanting to be left out. I bet a lot of people are going to be pre-ordering instead of taking their chances with getting a beta invite. There is no way in hell I'm paying $60 to play a beta that only gets erased, and I could care less about a name reservation. I'll pay the $15 sub fee when it releases Nov.4
hunter mains, is this our pve spec?
>>580818512Is this picture supposed to look good?
>>580818902>i can finally make undyne the undying from undertale and also deltarune
>>580818902Then just play Classic. Man, you guys are the most insufferable people in the entire world. Nobody cares what you think.
>tfw getting married 7th nov then honeymoon and will end up behind the curve
>>580818985>lone wolfcan they remove this bullshit nigger fucking talentwhy the fuck would I want to make the class more braindead and boring?
>>580818934It doesn't say that Prot warriors can charge in combat, just that they can charge from Defensive Stance.
>>580817572>WoW forever>Worldsoul saga>"the LAST titan"Bros... are they trying to funnel the fucking retail mazerats into classic with this wording? Is this some plan to shut down retoilet but keep the people still subbed to it?
>You can choose between PVP and PVE cluster for all your characters whenever you want. HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
>>580819013normies like you deserve to be behind the curve
>>580818979I usually fall prey to FOMO, but this time I'm genuinely not feeling it. I WILL be watching streamers play, instead of succumbing myself to paypiggie it up to play a beta.
>move all the 31 talents to 21>add the tbc talents to 31 instead$60+tip
>>580818934it doesnt say it can be used in combat it just says it can be done in defensive stance ie you dont need to stance dance back to defensive after charging
>legacy>campingThey better pump the breaks on adding systems. This is how you get the bloat that retail has
>>580819050>level pve>enable pvp when it's time to stop lowbiesjust giving small pee pee gankers what they've always wanted
literally anything except for just adding high elves, it HAS to be some autistic mandate from ion or someone high up
i think there should be a way to give feedback. OSRS has polls that you can vote in only if you are above a certain level and have sufficient hours played.if other players want shit to be a way that i don't, then fair enough. if 80% of people want player housing or lfg or whatever, then i guess it is what it is, but i feel like i don't have a way to influence how the game progresses.i realize there are problems in the polling system, because some people just vote spitefully (fuck the alliance i don't want ANYTHING for them!!!) or are just retarded and lack the mental capacity to comprehend long term effects, but it seems to work for OSRS. and the alternative is what we have now, which is i guess streamers complaining, and the blizzard forums, reddit, twitter. i'm not going to engage with that shit and i hate the people who do.
>>580818902>eventuallyThey already did, I'm only playing it because I've been waiting for ages
>want to play rogue>no shadow step or even cloak of shadows>want to play lock>have to give out lock candy in raids>want to play hunter>don't want to melee weave and also hate the dead zoneGuess I'm playing mage? Though human locks with Will to Survive seems so good.
undead rogue or troll shaman
>>580819037If lone wolf is so early in the tree can only assume that leveling will be brain dead easy to the point where a named/elite quest mob can be killed before getting into melee range without needing to trap or kite.
>>580819048no they want to rebrand retail as something besides warcraft. multiple devs are on record saying they wish it wasn't called warcraft.also classic needs an end point to dump all the characters every progressive refresh.
>>580818290You can turn it off, anon. It can't hurt you. I certainly will be.
>>580819043>>580819094you anons are correct. fake and gay then. still nice but damn
0war1pal2mage3rog4 sham5 priest6hunt7lock8 dru 9 reroll2nd from the right0 Smurf ally1 Smurf horde2 human3 orc4 undead5 elf6 dwarf7 troll8 gnome9 Tauren
I hope they add comfy class ability for group camping
So the beta gets wiped? Complete waste of time.
>>580819196>JUST TOGGLE IT
>>580818998i care what he thinks. i care what you think too but i disagree with what you think. sharing your opinion is important, especially for things you care about. like this game and the future of it.
>>580818902The whole point of Forever is getting their next cash cow ready. It'll have a shop with retoilet transmog items. Actually I can't wait to have someone ask me what I think of their transmog only to tell them I have that shit turned off, and I'm not turning it on.>>580819073I'm not going to watch streamers, unless they're giving away a beta key and bounce the moment they run out. I'm going to be blissfully ignorant when the game launches Nov.4
>>580819189There's so many retarded things that worry me, just the choice of having lone wolf at all that early is baffling instead of being far deep into the tree at the very least.
>>580819050What a stupid decision.>>580819068Classic is a dad game now we should all be married or at least engaged. You aren't still single at 30+ years old I hope, unless you've already been divorced
>>580818637>Are healing mage/tank locks/melee hunters/tank rogues dead?Everything but melee Hunter. Survival is a proper melee spec in Forever.
>>580819241How good is Sally with her mouth?
>>580819241I would move mountains for a qtGF with an absolute dumpy to cosplay for me
>>580818979who the fuck is paying $60 to play a beta that doesnt even carry overi could understand at least if you kept your level 30s
on streams the talents page has a "primary" and "secondary" tab.is that a dual spec thing?
>>580818902legitimately these look so unbelievably badlike if it wasnt for the tranny dragons, adding these to retail would be the most egregious playable race they've done. This shit is repulsive, what the fuck am I looking at
what a glorious day for doomGODS
>>580819229Reroll and horde elf i guess
>>580819352correct. it wasn't unlocked at level 38 so presumably another level 40 unlock
Surprised more people aren't talking about the fact that all the new armor and creature models we've seen so far have been straight out of retail. I mean look at this shit. It does not fit classic AT ALL.The dude in the panel said multiple times they think the classic artstyle is "timeless" and want to respect it, but this shit is not classic. You can toggle the character models but they sure as fuck aren't making two models for every creature and armor piece.
>>580818675Missile Barrage procs off fucking every nuke, to boot. I can see some weird builds coming out of Mage.
IDGIIs WoW Forever Classic Plus?It’s vanilla revamped? No outlands or northernd or pandaria or other shit?
>>580818902There must be an exec that has a huge hard-on for differently coloured elves. Nobody wants this shit. Could have given us ogres or something.
>>580819172im hoping they change how hot streak works for mages. if i can cheat out instant pyros i'm going to nut
>>580819354The girl is just a belf with nightborne skin tone.
>>580819260the transmog shit really shows they want to make it into the next retoilet garbage0 principles or design philosophy
>>580819050So, warmode?
>>580819323Streamers, "content" creators and the horde of normalfags who will follow them. It's so fucking stupid the game will be completely minmaxed by launch.
>>580819404It's HIDEOUS and GROTESQUE and I will NOT be playing until the beta.
>>580819404How do those not fit classic?
To be completely honest, the vanilla purist fundamentalist no changes zealots are 100% right Blizzard WILL fuck this up with cash shops, transmogs, pets, shops, housing, boosts etc etc and the blue elves are 100% a sign of what is to come But I’m still going to play it for a bit before it all goes bad
>>580819404Druid looks goated but otherwise yes
>raid composition 8 shamans 20 fury warriors + some cucks to fill the gaps like 1 priest to buff the entire raidkino confirmed boys
>Highbourne>High Elves>Blood Elves>Night Elves>Nightbourne>Void Elves>SkyborneHow many more fucking elf subtypes are they going to make? This is not even counting Haranir or the San'layn.There's more variety of elves than fucking human kingdoms at this point.
>>580819458they look utterly uncanny and out of place sorry
>>580819404No, those actually look pretty good.
>>580819404Is it because they have more than 5 polygons?
>>580819404druid and warrior look giga
>>580819404kek aint no fucking wayaint no fucking way these are supposed to be "classic" armors
>>580818757I still see you, bro.
>>580819431>Nobody wants this shitIs this like saying no one goes to some restaurant any more because it's too crowded?
>>580819404Forever isn't Classic. Its WoW 2 with a classic gameplay base. Its Blizzards attempt at a reboot.
>>580819431Light skinned elves are problematic because white supremacy or something
>>580819491>To be completely honest, the vanilla purist fundamentalist no changes zealots are 100% rightThen go play Classic?
draenei?
does hardcore launch on nov 4 too or is it later?
>>580818986its a frame i took from their video in motion so not really
>>580819531they're literally belfs. same animations and jumps. are you retarded? unless you want to say belfs also don't fit then sure
>>580819431chinks need cute girl race or they wont play horde
>>580819462my only explanation is that they know retail's cost of development simply isnt worth the return anymore, so they're trying to soften the blow to retoilets by making classic more approachable to their retarded whims by adding shit like troonmogif the above isn't the reason, I just cant explain it otherwise. its baffling.
>Shaman, the worst fucking class in the game>WoW Forever happens>"OH BOY, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THEM TO FIX SHA-">Talents are basically unchangedWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW THANK YOU BLIZZARD YOU LEFTIST COMMIE CUNTS.Not even gonna bother playing this shit. In fact, the talent changes as a whole are dogshit. Literally nothing interesting in any tree.Old dungeons are just left the same as what they were. I thought they were going to go through the entire game and SoD them all up but nope, they're the same old dungeons we've ran a billion times. Completely solved. Completely boring.Waste of fucking time.
>>580819404looks fine 2 meobviosly the paladin and warrior ones mog but that's all
>>580819573Nobody will be playing for the mint flavor elves. They'll be playing in spite of them, same as all the other elf races.
>>580819404>classic+ isn't being made for you
Okay but what if they add Earthwarder Tank Spec?
>>580819681>>Talents are basically unchangedNigger whatare we reading the same shit?
>>580819247>perfectly reasonable advice>gets mad
>>580817572The only things I care about is a fresh reset, the new troll warlock combination and the new zonesMight be fun for a month at most
>>580819172>rogue with no shadowstep and cloak>back to base CDs being 5 minutes sprint/blind/vanish/etc>new capstones look like absolute garbage
touch of the grave on rogue seems crazy, no?
Raids still need a shaman in every group btw good luck recruiting casualchads
>>580818902>turtlewow died so they can start pozzing classic in addition to retailClassic+ fags should be drawn and quartered for bringing this on us.
>>580819681how do you know they're all the same? did they tell you explicitly? or do you think they gave you the whole game in less than 2 hours worth of showcase?
>>580819404EhmRetail Minus
>>580819421Plz respond
>>580819580then why the fuck are also using so many old models for armor and creatures and the world. why not make everything look coherent
So this is it huh? Vanilla is officially dead. Sad to see it go. We had a good 7 years...
>>580819612later. sometime after december
>>580819674it's blatantly obvious by the way they talk about it and the actual things they are making that they are selling Forever as WoW 2 and treating retail like a lost cause where the content shrinks more and more every year while the cash shop gets bigger and bigger
someone link the forever talents page please
>>580819404because vanilla is handpainted and retail is sculpted, and all their artists now are sculptors. I play retail and don't mind the 3d sculpted aesthetic, but this is butchering the vanilla artstyle.>>580819537unironically yes. Half the appeal of vanilla is the handpainted storybook aesthetic.
>Still cant charge in combat. Wow so cool so fun, I really love playing my gimped defective class that will also lose the only thing going for it, dps.
>>580819712>all characters have pink dildos on top of their heads>but you can toggle it so whats the issue?
guys, I am trying to make a Camping Optimized Character right now.
>>580819520And there are more varieties of Trolls than Elves. Crazy how the oldest, most widespread races ended up that way. Fucking weird how that works.
The retoilet numbers must be horror Even Ion went on stage for the C+ panel and pretended he was fighting for vanilla since the beginning
i dont have many complaints desu i just really hope they adjust the cd times there should not be 10min cds in this game
How do you guys think they will implement "horizontal progression"? I see they introduced an achievement system with some sort of points you earn from achievements. It is also account-wide, with achievements such as "level a hunter to 45". I guess I'm just unsure how such a system could actually present meaningful progression beyond "here's a mount for hitting 1000 achievement points"
>>5808189852 points into melee crit for weaving but otherwise that is itmaybe the first couple of raids you wont use lone wolf since your pet could deal 20% of your total damage but with gear definitely
>>580819172Is that what makes the cool stealth runs happen?
>>580819821poor warriors, everything is just so hard for them when will they get their time to shine in classic
Are classes getting just new talents or also getting new baseline abilities?
>>580818985wtf is this a joke
>>580819717>rogue with no shadowstep and cloakAcutal rogue main here. This is a good thing. Cloak and shadowstep were noob crutches.
>>580819421?????Can someone confirm or disconfirm me
>>580819760You think they wouldn't include that they changed them anywhere in the hours long presentation?Not even a "Btw get excited, those old dungeons you knew have been reimagined to feel fresh and new!"Of course they would have mentioned it if they changed them. There's literally 0 chance that they would be radio silent on a change like that.
>>580819716great picture anon, thanks for contributing. you're welcome to share more
>>580819836why is he such a dishonest slimeball
>>580819821they buffed fury warriors
Anyone else gonna go all out on camping?
>>580819906I'm a noob and need the crutch>>580819717What are capstones?
Is there going to be a classic (era) fresh? I'm not interested in the classic+ forever thing
>>580819323>who the fuck is paying $60 Oh you'd be surprised just how many people have already spent $60 just to play the beta.>>580819462They're tying account wide perks into Forever. They're essentially trying to appease Classic players and Retail players in one game. Actually, I don't even know what retail players wants since I have played retail WoW since BfA. But anyways they're definitely going to have cash shop items like transmog and mounts the question is will the cash shop stuff also have SD textures?
>>580819910yes. level 60. no northrend or pandaria or whatever. 1k quests added. go to the webstie linked in op>>580819913they said the world has been updated. the extent of that we do not know
>>580819674they know 100% of the nostalgia uncs will slurp up the latest classic cash grab no matter what, so they're trying to scam as many retail paypigs as they can as well, it's not complicated.
>>580817572>more reliable engineering devicesis that actually going to matter for gnomes?
>>580819832Crazy how a race can diverge so much from its cousins that it lives on an uncontacted landmass and somhow they're identical except one is bluer.
Druid looks insanely good. Seriously though these elves look so fucking uncanny valley it’s insane. I keep thinking they’re the retards from shadowlands. It’s not that they’re blue, it’s the shade of blue they went for, or the saturation or whatever, it looks insanely bad and jarring.Anyways on the bright side private forever servers down the line are going to be insanely good when blizz inevitably fuck everything up by adding paywalls to new classes and races and race/class combos Until then I’ll play Druid cuz they look like the universally best class in the game now next to warlocks
>>580819975Fuck furry faggot fotm warriors, they should force you into a clown suit to play this spec.
Forever Class/Spec tier list when?
>>580819904So it's just a higher CD aimed shot
>people this excited for sod remixwhen open beta starts the hype is going to die bigly
>>580819852Surely the answer is housing in some form
>>580819807the only people playing retail are unironic troons and people who just enjoy the class design/sweaty PvE content at this pointi seriously doubt the latter group will like any form of classic+ but maybe troons are the goal.
where is the site people posting talent specs ?
>>580820045>Until then I’ll play Druid cuz they look like the universally best class in the game nowwhat makes you say that? what changes are they getting?
>>580820070This sentiment is why no classic or classic+ will ever work.
>>580819975No, they didn't. They actually needed them hard. Rage is also normalized so you're never gonna reach the same heights as in sod or nilla>>580817762Prot warriors can.
>>580820108Looks way worse than sodomy.
>>580819906enjoy getting kited like a bitch when your 5 minute sprint and vanish are off cd
>>580820045yeah that screenshot they showed looked terrible but apparently you can actually make them look good
>>580819852Different tier sets for different specs or playstyles.Ultimately though wow is designed around vertical progression and there's no real way around that beyond mountsmogscheevos
>>580820108Sod was much more vanilla true with zero retail ui or models we didn’t know how good we had it and what horrors were yet to come
>>580819562Don't care, still not checking my basement.
>>580819852it gives buffs to leveling future characters so they want you to try out different classes
>>580820070shaman is still the worst class in the game
>>580819404I'm more upset that they have to tech to do 3D belts and pants now but so far only seem to be using it for sex elf starting gear. Better looking gear should be an obvious addition.
>>580820045their skin color is completely arbitrary enjoy your insane range of modern hues
at the end of the day, youll hit 60 and this will be another raidlog simnothing changes
>>580820195skill issue
>>580820112Housing and achievements. Guessing housing items will be locked behind weekly dungeon/raid roulette quests or something.The best way to do it is lock good gear behind very low drop rates or dungeon rep grinds (from weekly quests) but the modern playerbase is far too impatient for that.
>>580820009>Actually, I don't even know what retail players wantchallenging contentmythic plus warcraftlogs arena
>>580820032MC cap can be disastrous if it backfiresgoblin shoes is also pretty annoying to have backfire
>>580820207they're just blood elves with more color options.
>>580820256wow very diverse im sure blackrock approves
>>580820176fury tree is identical for the skills you take except you get tbc dual wield whirlwind aswellliterally the exact same 17/34 spec is going to be it and you get shamans/paladins for windfury and threat reduction at the same timeyou are also wrong about the charge in combat retard bro
>>580820176Learn to read retard.
>gnome Priest>troll Warlockwhy? No one even asked for these and
>>580820260at the end of the day, whatever you eat still ends up as shit
tewi...
>>580820226Could you explain this bloody section of a bedsheet I found there?
>>580818178skyborne are so fucking bad and it's just a re-skinned bloodelf anyway, but fuck it. I hope they keep coming with content
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2382520/Erenshor/the real classic+
>>580818959it does until you stop or get hit
>>580820358whats wrong with troll warlock
>>580818675>Asked what class has it worse>Didn't answer the questionMages are cucked.
>>580820167Boomkins have better talents than mages now, feral cat have better talents than rogue, bear is better than war and resto seems on par with paladinsBasically its gonna beRanged dps 1 warlock/bdruid2 elesham/hunter3 mage/smitepriestMelee dpsFuryFeralRogEnhTankingBearProt/protHealingPriestSham/druidI say this obviously without knowing the scaling at 60 and tier bonuses but talents alone and classic wow numbers give those outcomes
>>580820108>sod without all the sod tanksFinding tanks was so fucking easy in sod, whereas now we'll have to hope there's enough desperate paladins running around.It's easily the worst bit of news for me here.
>>580820229how is that gonna be sustainable long-term if they never raise the level cap? eventually people would get every class to 60>>580820208yeah this is just vertical progression in a different way, one of those specs/playstyles will be optimal>>580820112this would be good but are they really willing to add housing to this? I'd hope so but it seems like it might conflict with retail
>>580820406>new content!>50 bucks for 3 new areas, new race that barely fits in, new class that is completely busted
>>580819681>Talents are basically unchangedWhat in the unholy fuck are you talking about? Their talents are massively different and they even have shit like totem bars from Wrath. You can tell at a glance that they're in a much, MUCH better place.
i hope they dont cuck out and ban GDKP
>>580820108>sod remixmy only real critique at the moment is that they didnt put more of the sod spell changes in. i can understand that they want it to be a fresh start so less buttons is good but they couldve tried to fix the bad spells. they added a fucking 15sec cd to slam(this could be blizzcon only tho)
>>580820503back of the line, dps cuckyes I am taking the first ashbringer
Man seeing you guys all bicker about what specs will be the best, what talents and racials are best, etc, really proves to me that WoW: forever has no audience.
>>580820484You didn't even explain why they are bad. Just some vague assumption that everything else is better just because.
>>580818193Well, maybe not every quest but I'll at least pay more attention, yes.
>>580820517New class?
They're just using classic as a marketing term. This is Retail 2.
>>580820503Because sissified nochanges faggots refuse to have the classes significantly changed. Era exists.
>>580820503>he thinks paladins will ever don the shield Wishful thinking anon, they'd rather spend 2 hours looking for a dungeon so they can play ret
>>580820503druids can play feral now though they're not forced into resto.
>>580817572So this game is free if I don't care for sky elves?
>>580820493You forgot that there's a mandatory shaman slot in every group.
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#paladin/60/000000000000000000-3500513321301051-551000301012000000I present to you your Prot Pal tanking spec. Iron Creed reduces the damage you take by a whopping 10% for 6 seconds after using Holy Strike. Now there might be some modifications depending on the Holy Strike CD. Seems that will need to be at 100% uptime so some points from ret would be moved to holy to get that cd down
>>580820510just... toggle the xp boost off
>>580820604Yes, as long as you're subscribed
>>580820493i believe the bear tank being huge but the rest of this is absolute cope there is no way balance druid is going to be top ranged dps lmao
>>580819904It's a 1shot clothies ability. Mage niggers will seethe.
>>580820517>Barely fits inIt doesn't fit at all>New classThere are no new classes lmao
>>580819852it's an interesting question.i don't know why people play OSRS, but they have continuous development. it's probably important to have reasons to go back to dungeons and raids. i'm thinking rare drops. mounts and stuff. cosmetic garbage. i think resistances and stuff should be important. like, maybe an item from some earlier raid is actually useful in a later raid. or you need nature resist gear or fire resist gear or whatever. i personally don't care that much about getting the best gear in the game. i like doing difficult encounters. legion was probably some of my favorite "technical" raiding in wow. it felt like a puzzle, or like a dance. people had shit to do and it felt good to accomplish. i was doing it "for the gear" but that's kind of secondary. the encounter itself was enjoyable and the people i did it with were fun to raid with.that doesn't answer your question it's just rambling.
>rmt >boost to 60>rmt some more>max out all profs>max out my legacy tree>raidlog
>>580820570the bald guy threatened new classes in future updates on stage, it was the only announcement where the crowd was loudly murmuring in response
>>580820648retard
Is she the Kathleen Kennedy of wow?
>>580820284>challenging contentI don't mind that as long as it doesn't become a ilvl/stat check.>mythic plusI was never really a fan of chasing rng rolls to get better so you can raid.>warcraftlogsDon't really care for this either, a clear is a clear. If I wanted people to fawn over my "skill" I would git gud at a fps or fighter game.>arenaThe one thing I'm surprised they didn't add but I'm hoping they have a lot more wPvP. I get the noob gankers but one noob ganked leads into an area wide-scale pvp battle, especially if they're trying to go back engaging the community.
>racial totemsMY DICK IS READYSHOW SEX ELF TOTEMS MR. BLIZZ
>>580820708>hc>rmt>boost to 60>die because I dont actually play videogames
I wonder what they're doing with the pvp systemnew bg is promising
>>580820672You can literally just plug in the numbers from the new talent trees and check the logs yourself, without knowing the tier set bonuses balance is definitely only behind warlocks
>>580820045Resto druid looks very very good. I'll enjoy playing it. Boomkin seems a bit weird.
>>580818593I enjoyed the first phase of SoD. They just took forever to release phase 2 and I had a bunch of other shit to do and play and never bothered coming back.
>>580817572>humans 2%get mogged
>>580820704>i don't know why people play OSRSlots to do, designed around solo play, youre in no rush to do anythingunlike the culture of wow, you either minmax poopsock or youre not invited
>>580818125barny
Horizontal progression works in OSRS because you'll play for 2000 hours and be considered to be maybe entering the late game at that point
>>580820817there is still honor confirmed at the very leastI think I saw something about arena frames in the settings
Are we getting gnome hunters?
>>580820591so trve xis, lets have demonology summon 400 demons, better yet lets put death knights in and have them summon giant reddit dragons, and get some rogue tankerinos while we're at it.
I’m gonna have a really hard time choosing between Druid Warlock and smite priest desu
>>580820493what its actually going to be is paladin tank for aoe shit and druid tanks for everything elseshaman in every grouppaladins heal tanks and 1 token priest gives stamina to the entire raidwarlock gets to cast curse of agony on top of being the curse of reck bitch nowrogue is useless and 1 hunter brings tranqmage does something i guess
>>580820045>>580820828how can you guys even tell from these talent trees? Most of the talents are boring ass shit like 2% more intellect.
Why didn't they just do Blood/High Elves?
>>580820751yes it was even more obvious when she said she wanted to remove "war" from warcrafti hate white liberal women so much
>>580820825for like what 15 seconds before running out of mana? what is this cope
>>580820704They showed that Whitemane's Chapeau has an extra effect that grants haste to revival spells. So if you have it, you'd always keep it around and have it macroed onto your revives. I imagine that's the kind of stuff horizontal progression means.
talent tree calc please desu
Why do people come to threads to complain about a game that they have no interest in playing? If you don't want to play Forever, then don't play Forever. Go play on your third world private server, or go play Classic over and over again for the 80th time. Nobody here wants to hear your complaining that Blizzard didn't make the game specifically for whatever autistic standards that you have. Here's the cold, hard reality: If Blizzard made everything perfect like you want it, exactly the way you'd want it, you'd still complain, because you're a miserable freak who's going to die of chronic blood diarrhea in your sleep tonight.
>>580820829>I quit after the hype was gonewow surely it won't be the exact same thing this time around
>>580820879wow culture is just pure transactionalism to the fullest so unless that changes that's never going away.
>>580820773>blizzard is luring in classic andy players with sd models and hd model classic animations>all brand new models and updates are retail era styles>they are willingly entering that jaw waiting to snap shut in a couple years when they pull a legion and remove SD models to save moneycant wait
>>580820704OSRS is a fundamentally different game where you have one character that can basically complete everything. In my opinion, to replicate this, WoW would need to have some sort of account-wide incentive since each character is limited to a certain race, class, and profession
>>580820825>only behind warlocksso only behind the class nobody brings more than 1 to the raid?
>>580821019>omg just let people enjoy things!fuck off to the official forums or kys
>>580820934>arena frames in the settingsI really don't want arena. It doesn't feel vanilla. But I guess that's out the window now.
want to be not a antisocial fuck finally, whats my best chanches to socialize in the upcoming forever beta and game?im 17 and have alot of anxiety i know its retarded but any tips welcome.Should i roll some specific class/spec too?
>Rets capstone talent is just seal twisting without the swing timer jankI am KNEELING
>>580821012https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000I'll add the calc to the main thread next general
Is anyone really going to be excited enough to play a dwarf shaman, the least blizzard could have done is made a race/class specific role like runesmith, instead of copy pasting a hamfisted horde class to alliance, it fits worse than undead paladin, at least undead used to be human
>>580821008dude no one is going to keep something like that around to save 2 seconds reviving someone. be honest with yourself lmao
>wow team finally gets to design content that doesn't have an x-month 'best-before' date and instead finally get to create an evergreen collage of azerothkino
>>580821019I have a duty to make fun of you.
>>580821019you are posting in the suicide hotline website where receding hairlines is not the exceptionthe fuck you think is gonna be discussed hereits nothing but shit posting and miserable fags
>No goatsSHIT game
>>580820751it's cute af how she got all dressed up in cosplay for the presentation. I wanna fuck that nerdy dork so bad.
>>580821123play the game, search for a guild (make sure its not shitters) and have funalternatively get off this game and live in the real world instead of online with 30 year old boomers
>>580821045>they are willingly entering that jaw waiting to snap shut in a couple years when they pull a legion and remove SD models to save moneyThere will be a forever private server by then if they did something so retarded
New warlock talents look fucking great, bros. Real hyped.
>>580821165You underestimate the autism of wow classic speed runners
>>580820971For resto druid they addressed aoe healing and mana issues without going overboard. It's impossible to say how it will be tuning-wise when it scales but resto specifically will be great to play now. If the content is classic/tbc level of difficulty you will be able to pug everything without dealing with classic guild loot whoring also. The only thing I absolutely hate is that the new race is paywalled.
>>580821123Healer or tank
>>580821045this shit isnt surviving a couple of years anon so just go in and enjoy your couple of months before quitting because modern blizzard cant do anything right
>retail devs talking about their journey of mastering classic development in SoD>while they’ve just released a game with retail UI, models, items, animation and graphics everywhere Are they being deliberately sarcastic or are they serious
>>580821019>go play classic over againthis shit is 80% classic
It's hilariously Jewish that sky elves have the best racials.Perma 1% haste is insanely good.
>>580821165have you seen how much people hyperoptimize this gameyou'll be lucky if you don't get kicked from groups if you don't have whitemane's chapeau
>>580820971That’s exactly how you tell tho?The game is solved, unless they rework the values you can literally plug in right now what a balance Druids dps will be with x% this and that
>>580821205>(make sure its not shitters)this step is literally impossible unless it's an established raiding guild
>>580817572>Sky ElvesBlizzard really will do literally fucking anything but let Alliance have normal High Elves, won't they? They want to keep in the spirit of vanilla but give BOTH factions fucking Sky Elves? It should have been High Elves for Alliance, Stonemaul Ogres for Horde, and everyone here knows it. I don't even play Alliance but holy shit. Only blue or the abomination that is void elves for you, never the normal ones from WC3 that are the natural fit.
>>580820453>>580818959Insane racial for kiting
>>580821184I miss Richard.
>>580821253>while they’ve just released a game with retail UI, models, items, animation and graphics everywhere>but you can toggle any of it, independent of the others
>>580817572i would prefer facials HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
>>580821302Assuming itemisation will be the same at all
>>580821174>Copy paste blood elfs.>Copy paste dragonflight retail mobs.>Only 1 to 2 "new" wrath talents per spec.>Can choose between pve and pvp server with same characters any time you want. LOL LMAO
>>580817572https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmaatAjFX4I forgiveI forgetExpect meI am here forever
>>580821174>those poor devs were forced to make bad content in retail and now theyre finally free to make good contentyou dont actually believe this
>>580821225>resto specifically will be great to play nowhmm, maybe I'll play resto druid instead of holy pally then. Hard to decide coming from retail, no clue what to even look for.
>>580821206>>580821235Thanks for the answers. best way to search a guild (europe)? I assume the ingame finder (if forever will have one) is probally shit right?Im still bad at wow so i think im still too pussy to play tank so i guess i roll a paladin to heal first and maybe decide later to tank
What are capstones?
>>580821123Druid shammy gives you free raid spots even if you’re abysmal at the game
>>580821123>im 17rookie mistake
>>580820953No, just cunny priests.
as someone who has never played an MMO before, is this a good starting point?
>>580821348Please show the UI vanilla toggle And the models are wrong even with the classic toggle set correctly Just retail models with a shitty classic reskin o too
>>580821321>They want to keep in the spirit of vanillaLOL
>>580821321High elves will never be a playable race and not sure why but it's one of those things blizzard will never allow
>>580821361>>Can choose between pve and pvp server with same characters any time you want.really? that's nice
>>580821412Nah, just wait for WoW 2 or GW3
>alliance already have nelves with good animations and sexy HD modelsSo blueberries are just tranny horde tax?
>>580821361>Can choose between pve and pvp server with same characters any time you want. Oh it's fucking ruined
>>580821218>ds/ruin is by far the best like always
>>580821396Also thanksI guess i considered that too beside pala>>580821401It is what it is
Don't talk to me or my wife ever again.
>>580821418the fuckin toggle bro please just toggle
>>580821473This is WoW 2
>>580821479>nelves>sexymaybe if you are into the tranny look of man hands
>>580821523ds/ruin is fun though and now we even get to keep a demon out after ds. I am also intrigued by the changes to destruction.
>>580821558Why the fuck do we need to toggle off retail slop in CLASSIC+? Shouldn’t the retailers have to toggle it on?
Seems ok except for the new race. Wtf were they thinking? It's so awful and looks lifted straight out of Dragonflight. Elemental elves in classic seems so obviously retarded plus they look ugly as fuck
>crit dot warlocks with gigainsane vampirism if undead(undead spriest gonna be sick too huh?) >incinerate>demonic sac + extra summon anywayWarlocks are so fucking fun in forever wow>all 4 of the Druid specs have been saved Holy HYPEThe biggest question is gonna be which one do i play?? I might have to roll a fucking Smurf just for the unique Druid form but then undead warlock seems so fucking goated with a Tanky vampirism build from the racial
>>580820918yup thats the one. thanks anon
>>580821396NTA but if its gonna be like classic are they not gonna double down on meme spec buff/debuff stuff like tbc too so everyone gets included?As in you will get brought into the raid if you are an arms warrior for example for the MS debuff?
Going to play a male tauren survival hunter and level with growl turned off as the Earth Mother intended
>>580820926exactly. What classic+ needed was systems in place to prevent you from maxing out after 200 hours. A prestige system, or leveling past 60 with exponential xp scaling. I'm not seeing anything like that so my hype is extremely minimal, I don't like playing MMOs that feel like a dead end.
Frostfire bolt mentioned in multiple arcane/fire talent tooltips, but not on frost tree. Kinda fuckin weird. But if true, this talent build is going to do insane single target damage.https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#mage/60/000000000000000000-23552030130133151-0055000300000000000
>>580821123>im 17MODS MODS MODS
>>580821190>you are posting in the suicide hotline websiteThis isn't Bluesky
>>580821412Wow Forever is going to be THE most opportune time to start playing an mmo literally since 2004 when OG wow released.
>>580821691what the FUCK is holy strike btw. in the pally tree
>>580821708They're already grooming him right now it's over. A new lilith will be born.
>>580821412yes it is try it out anon.
>>580821123>im 17god i wish i had a time machine. i had the universe on a string and i didn't even realize. i would trade it all away just for more time.
>>580821772what makes you say that? not memeing, i'm genuinely curious
>>580821778deals 35% of weapon damage + fixed amount as holy
>>580821605anon you wont be able to without demonology capstone and you have to sacrifice way too much to get that
>>580821829The greatest MMO ever is being restarted in a new seemingly improved form. There really is no better time than this.
So will Shadow Priest actually be good like in TBC or will they get cucked regardless of changes. It was either that or warlock for an Alliance character
>>580821412play erenshor.
>>580818902>>580819138>>580821321Just kys already retard
>Human paladin is still the best holy pala1 job
>>580820989>running out of manaDid the retoilet not read blue elf racial
>>580821902There is no worse time for this, because the problem with WoW isn't what it is, it's when it is.
>>580821778I saw that too, I wish we had more info on abilities right now.
>we, blizzard, have effectively fucked up retail so badly that we are using classic as a launchpad to reboot the gameIt is difficult to truly apprehend this level of failure. Imagine telling someone during Lich King that 20 years or so later WoW will still be alive, but Blizzard will have managed it so poorly that the game has two concurrent versions instead of a sequel. What bewilders me is that due to sheer novelty WoW Forever will still probably be more interesting than retail with its decades of content.
>>580821938uh oh toggler melty
>>580821890That's ok. Not minmaxing straight out the gate.
>>580821829Launch is guaranteed to be gigantic. They are basically resetting the setting and timeline cutting all of the terribly written and impossible to follow lore from the last 20 years of bullshit added to retail. They are going back to more OG gameplay which is infinitely more intuitive to pick up and play. And most importantly they said they are focusing first and foremost on essentially the average player experience rather than catering to the most hardcore poopsocking raider faggots.
>>580821829nta but it's the launch of blizzard's latest attempt at a non-seasonal MMO.that's happened exactly 3 times so far in history (wow, classic, anniversary classic), and all the launches were pretty big. this will easily be the 3rd largest, possibly 2nd.
>>580821446because it's a lowkey nazism/eugenics dogwhistle or at least that's how they probably see it
>>580821829massive hype + classic was always pretty accessible + modern gaming qol changes added. also unironically women and casuals will be playing which means more people playing in general
>>580818932pvp is garbage
>>580820825>Parsetranny simming based on made up numbers.You don't know what the actual spells do,
Why are people saying that druid and warlocks are looking the best at pvp?
>>580821190OPSEC Level: ESL
>>580821361>>580821461You sure?
>>580821412I can't imagine there will ever be a better entry point into the genre than this. I need that with absolute sincerity.
>>580821985Doesn't matter because by calling it classic+ people will be led by the nose, as they are.
really wanted to play paladin for healing/tanking roles but ret paladin looks absolute gay aids to play for solo content
>>580821969You're not wrong in the "when it is" being a problem, but this applies to all MMOs. Unless you have a time machine and can return to 2004, there's no getting around that problem.
>>580821904I have a feeling that undead and gnome shadow priest will be the most cried about class/race combos in the game. It’s going to be insanely difficult to kill them with all the healing/ankh thing In pve it looks unironically like smite priest is the way to go, they do decent damage in vanilla already and with the increased damage during holy fire uptime they might actually be a decent dps
>>580822054Haven't looked at druid, but soul link being a 21 point talent is a big deal.Also spriest looks completely broken
>>580822054they were already the best pvp classes and they got gooder while the other classes didn't get anything to really close the gap. arc mage looks incredibly overtuned right now though
>Classic Mazies think this isn't retail. HAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i hate it but i will still play it because others will
only fellow wowyer bros will understand but this talent still existing indicates that retained alot of retarded shit that doesnt make sense which is worrisome, pun intended
>>580821965now we're truly coping
>>580822157>link achievement or no inviteclassic+ hypeeee
>>580822157It isn't retail
>>580822102I didn't say it didn't.MMOs don't work anymore because the online community isn't good for mmos.
>>580821691Hey, you retarded nigger, you know you can learn spells from the trainer, right? You do know how the game works, right nigger?
Is Demo gonna be a "real" spec in Forever?
>>580822114i mean sure but the reason you take a dps priest is for shadow weaving i don't see a smite priest being better than shadow weaving especially now that warlock is gigapumper
>>580822243You mean a cucked fire mage?
>>580822201it's retail-
>>580821691Frostfire Bolt is the only way I'll play Fire. It's just so cool.
>>580821991>all of the terribly writingThey're just putting it in Forever so retoilets will feel at home.
>>580822157>pesky cirrusflyeven the mobs have retoilet mob names
I really wish it was retail but only inward expansion instead of new continents but the reality is it's just another fotm cash grab
so blizz just admitted that this shit right here doomed the MMO genre the moment it released right?
>>580822282it's not retail
>>580822198Fuck.
>>580821123what the fuck are you doing on 4chanI didn't start using this site until I was 19
>>580821829this is the last shot for "classic plus". if this shits the bed, then it's done. it'll be retail only, and classic re-releases until the money dries up.so, this might be your last chance to ride the wave.
>>580822157>quest markers on mapIt is so unbelievably dead on arrival though then again maybe it's not since you all mod leveling guides in anyway.
>>580822067If you play on a pve server you can toggle world pvp on and off as usual, on pvp servers its always enabled
>>580821904If they don't have VT then they're back to meme shit tier. Simple as.
>>580822243Demo might unironically be THE spec I see affli warlock going hard with the undead racial though, drain tanking is very very back.
>>580822308>I really wish it was retailwe have totally lost the plot
>>580822067test servers don't prove anything.the ui feature is also being misinterpreted by the retard saying you can server hop any time.
>>580822235He's saying it's weird that Frostfire Bolt isn't affected by Frost talents, not that it doesn't exist, you illiterate fucking cockgoblin.
>>580822314basically yes and it was an undeniable fact whether they admit it or not.TBC establishing the practice of adding a new continent with every expansion was the single biggest reason retail became slop.
>>580822314yes that shit sucked dixx
>doomjeets SEETHING rn
>>580822162They should have forced wrath class design into the classic lvl 60 world. Even without the capstone wrath talents it would still be 100000% better. But you will never convince the low IQ wow crowd since they are mentally stunted over warrior being top dps in one expansion.
>>580821991>focusing first and foremost on essentially the average player experience>catering to the most hardcore poopsocking raider faggots.But for how long? Before entire organizations that literally have made their entire careers based off poopsocking WoW raids begin to cry into Blizzard's ear, and Blizzard caves? Do you trust Blizzard enough to stand their ground?
>>580822346You can turn them off.
The people dooming ITT are the same ones that rabidly defended slopscension when it did all of the same things but 100x worse.
>>580822404they could toggle off the stuff they dont like lol
WoW Forever looks great
>>580821904all spriest got is mana reduction on shadow form which still wont be enough for boss fights but will make it absolute cancer in pvp where you get to spam your stun bullshit for far longer than before
>>580822415>But for how long?i don't know but i'm going to find out.
We are SO back
>>580822316You're right, it's Classic Retail.>>580822404You could toggle off the stuff you
>>580822404>Jeets seething>White man glazing a soulless corporation. Something doesn't add up in this equation of yours.
can someone tell me what's up with the blue elves?why are they in the game now?
im not a mage expert but arcane mage still looks like a meme
>>580822294As opposed to "Ornery Plainstrider"?
>>580822415If retail retains any kind of pulse all the mazed trannies will stay there on their containment branch. If Forever does manage to curbstomp retail for real that might become an issue.
>>580822421togglerGOD knows he can customize his own experience
>World of Warcraft: Forever Patch 1.0.7.2>New adventures await you in Westfall!>Collect 2,500 Stewtokens>Kill 15,000 Murlocs>Find 9 Hidden Pirate Treasures>Collect 450 Gnoll Armbands
The next playable race is going to be Broken Draenai, right...right
>>580822431I didn't play ascension. But I'm dooming cause it's nuBlizzard and they haven't made anything of note in the past decade+. People who are blind optimistic about this should be checked into a mental facility.
>>580822541You're excited for WoW Forever. That's why you're here.
>>580822283Fire is going to be a single target dps machine if it's in the game, and with multiple tooltips referencing it I have to think that it is. Frost got kinda cucked but I'm sure it'll still be good at dungeon farming and pvp.
>>580821969But now WoW is Forever
>>580822157this doesnt look like classic it just looks like shitty retail
>>580822370retail is in a great place it just has some glaring flaws, like flying mounts, totally ignoring old zones, seperation of pvp and pve gear.The alternative to retail is another rugpull that will be stone cold dead in 6 months, lucky for you that's what you got.
can't wait to roll spriest be a cancerous nigger in pvp then get butthurt at 60 when nobody wants to do group content with my meme spec ass and quit after a month hell yeah
>>580822595>nuh uh!good rebuttal pserf tranny
>>580822590If they add faggot draenei but don't add my sexy spacegoats this company is dead
>>580822583>World of Warcraft New Adventure $39.99 - SHADOW OF THE BLACK DRAGONFLIGHT>We listened! No level cap raising, EVER! We heard you.>New dungeons! New raids! New items higher item level than anything in the game that you get from the very first quests!
I can’t wait for the fucking beta, there’s too many classes i wanna try out. Warlock priest Druid seem really really fucking nice. But i can foresee some insanely funny oneshots from shammy lava burst chain lightning comboing too…
>>580822314TBC loaded the gun and WOTLK fired it
>>580822414SOD class changes were very close to perfect and what this should have been. maybe they're just trying to be conservative with the initial release, because it would be much harder to roll changes back. i can only hope that they don't stay like this forever.
>>580822551see>>580821505
>Just toggle it bro. Just like you toggle your brain off defending blizzard.
>>580822431Brownoids will rabidly defend anything that's free.Saw it firsthand when I played trannyscenion myself. There was thjs annoying faggot constantly spamming all chat channels advertising his stream, and if you told him to fuck off, browns would defend him and whisper you insults, because the streamer have away free shitty cash shop items to them. Things valued at like 10 cents.
>>580822647You are mentally ill.
>>580822243the demons are hunter pet tier dogshit and they even let hunter play without a pet now so its ds ruin and shadowbolts with pity bane of agony allowed because you can also curse with it up
>>580822641if you like wannabe esportslop with zero level progression and millions of retarded action combo rotations idk what to tell you, this genre is not and never will be for you.
>>580821991I'll believe the writing thing once I've seen the 1000 new quests. Luckily I can just wait 5 days for someone to beta test the sky elf starting area and we will know what the quests will look like there.
>alliancetroons still seething after 20 yearsbelves will always be a horde race. if you play a velf or a skelf, you are playing a horde race.
>>580821123there will be no actual socialising in-gamejust like 2019 classic, all socialising will be done on discord. The only people talking in-game will be a handful of 40 year old pathetic losers acting like 13 year olds.
>>580822672yeah but why aren't they high/blood elves?why make a new oc donut steel race?
>>580822421Can't toggle bad quest design unfortunately.
>>580822706Piss off back to your dead dogfucker ERP thread, pserf.
>>580822496>i don't know but i'm going to find out.Honestly, based and same.>>580822571I don't know what Blizzard is going to do after The Last Titan especially with Forever on the horizon. Forever seems like it will have a lot of people playing in the beginning. It's actually on Blizzard not to fuck up and retain those players. Any moment I hear "race to world first" shit in Forever I might start dooming a bit.
>>580822157>awful modern UI>the character model + mob models being completely out of place with the rest of the world>you can see in the chat in the bottom-left that you still can't /spit on your target>"Legacy Challenges" looks completely out of place on a "classic WoW" server>"Pesky Cirrusfly"lmao
>>580822692Nice scenario you made up there buddy
Looks like Lock tanking WILL be coming back, somehow.
>this game is retail minus!Yeah it is, and that's a good thing. Original vanilla was a slog and adding the better parts of retail is great. All the while your characters are simple and so are the dungeons and raids. New content with a chill vibe is exactly what I want. Though to be fair its not perfect like the cash shop garbage but I'm very happy with WoW Forever. One of my few personal complaints is there is no incentive to keep doing dungeons at 60 after getting the good blues to prepare for raids. I wish so much that there was something at least somewhat similar to M+ but oh well. Doomies stay mad.
>>580822560yesthere are no "pesky" mobs in classic. "pesky" started being used for mobs in WoD when the game became irreversibly shit. "pesky" goes against the spirit of classic
bros whats the first think youre gonna toggle in the beta?
all this doomposting and screeching by the naysayers are making me feel extra comfy. it happened bros... ploos chads won
I'm going to say the dumbest things imaginable and then when you disagree I'll ask why you're defending a multi-dollar company.
>>580822774I only play vanilla/TBC/seasonal slop though? Why would I care about no-name pservers hosted in Russia?
Is doomposting the new meme?
>Crying about fucking mob names
>>580822805>I want M+Absolutely mazed. No one wants M+ and chasing a gear treadmill.
Classic+ is here. We won.
>>580822890Nobody believes your LARP
>>580822801i would CUM HARDmetamorphosis was kind of gay but i loved caster tankingor, new class: necromancer
>>580822765high elves are problematic for american political reasons and blood elves are horde only after wc3 shenanigans so they would have had to make another race for alliance so asspulling a neutral race was the least work for them
>smurftroon bear form is an owl bearFUCK THEYRE GOING TO MAKE ME PLAY THE FUCKING FAGGOT ELF ARENT THEY
I care only about furry females
>>580822721>this genre is not and never will be for you.except I'm the one actually playing it?If you're in a constant state of "this next server will be the one" without ever sticking to any of them, you might want to consider it's you who this genre is not meant for.
>>580822816SD models, classic UI, transmog OFF until I die.
>>580822816I'm pretty close to buying the super pack depending on what's confirmed. But I also plan to play a lot of wh3 later this month when the dlc launches.
>>580822768What makes you assume the quest design is any worse than the vanilla "kill 30 tigers" quests?
>>580822648Hi, Vaush
PROVE the doomposters wrong by voting YES on this poll! https://poal.me/s96qbhhttps://poal.me/s96qbhhttps://poal.me/s96qbh
Has the Big Man weighed in?
thanks to the anon that made/posted the talent treei gone through all know, obviously i dont know what kind of rework they did to the classes but just judging from the spec tree the only one they seem to have fixed is prot paladinthe rest seems as meme as ever
>>580822929Sober up, idiot. No one wants to raid with a player who's brain is fogged from substance abuse like you.
>>580817572So will it finally be worth getting into WOW properly (could never get full into it, only made it to level 54 back in 2007ish and his max level back in 2012ish or whenever it was that you could just quickly line up for dungeons and had garrisons) but never really did anything else once I hit max levelI could never last playing more than 2 or 3 weeks before I got dropped the game
>>580821985>retards on here have proven undoubtedly that they think retail is being abandoned>lowiq faggots genuinely imagine this is somehow a osrs / rs3 situation>this is cope from people who cant just let the game go and do other things insteadpoetic that wow forever is the game you come back to like a crack addict kek
>>580822765There's a few possibilities, for one I think they probably want to do some kind of content with the high/blood elves in the future since their lands constitute a large portion of the eastern kingdoms. It would be a lot of work to make yet another iteration of quel thalas that they probably don't want to wait on for the release. Another problem is that they would not be able to use the TBC blood elf lore that justified their inclusion on the horde without all the other TBC shit surrounding it, so they would have had to come up with new lore anyway which would be difficult since the TBC lore itself was already flimsy as fuck.A new OC elf race is their best get out of jail free card, they can implement the sexy elves everyone wants to play without having to implement a large scale lore and world overhaul to justify their inclusion.
>>580822952you cant toggle off my skyborne armor hehehe >:)
>>580822939If you play druid you are already a faggot so might as well.
>>580822961How dare you compare me to that larper.
>>580822964needs more options
>>580823012There has never been a better time
>We are going home classic sisters....
>>580822921I want a reason to keep doing dungeons at 60 with my group of friends because I like 5 man content. M+ does that in retail and it would be great if there was a new system that gives incentive to keep doing dungeons. It doesn't literally have to be M+
>>580822921Wasn't that shit proven to be rigged by GMs too? I can't imagine why anyone would want that mode to be in Forever.
>>580822935>high elves are problematic for american political reasonsreally?just add a brown skin option to them or something
im down with personal loot but i hope they keep the leveling experience as slow as vanilla/classic
>>580822641>retail is in a great placethe only people taht say shit like this spend their time ERPing on moonguardfuck outta here nigga
>>580822359Why is everyone assuming that Undead racial won't have an ICD? Rogues and Locks will be psychotic and unkillable if they don't.
>>580823081SEXX
Gonna be playing female night elf warrior, transmogging glorious armor, reverse raping all the orcs and tauren, blueballing them by pulling out right before the climax. Also tanking and refusing to let Ret palagroids join.
I wish epoch survived... this is less like classic+ and more like retail with classic+ included
>>580823081vgh that classic sovl
>>580823131i find the classes and dungeons fun tbqh
>>580822816>Class - Warrior>Race - Human Female>Models - HD> Animations - Classic>Transmog - Off>verification? not required
>>580823009No amount of seething will bring your dead slop server back.
I got drunk and took a nap after the opening ceremony so I've only recently seen actual gameplay of the stuff on the floor right now and it looks preposterous. Its incredibly unfortunate that all of the interesting content is being soured by major features appealing to the lowest common denominator. I think we are in a situation much like Helldivers where some unknown and powerful individual or small group of individuals within Blizzard's creative teams have an utterly ridiculous vision that they are autistically attached to and will demand that vision be realized regardless of how much blowback they receive. They would rather cover themselves in pig shit and defend it because its part of the vision even when everyone they meet everywhere they go tells them to fuck off because they don't want to stand near a man covered in shit.
>>580823081>sky elves dont have a low-definition versions of their modelss-surely this is temporary
>>580823084Just wait for the next fresh, it's the only way
>>580823042Skycucks will not be welcome in my dungeon groups and raids
Do people even care about 40 man raids anymore? Especially for fucking Onyxia of all raids?
>>580823131you're a larper who doesn't like mmos, shut the fuck up
>>580823081>secondary namewot in blazes
We already have vods/text posts about so much of the game but some of you guys are making up shit in your head to get mad about. You invented a classic+ in your head that may not even exist, and you're seething about it.
>>580823012Play Forever and pick Hardcore.Start the game fresh in an experience no one knows what the fuck they're doing.When you die you can transfer to a normal pve server.From several experiences with new wow players starting in Hardcore I can say this is actually the best way to get into the game even if it's daunting. The hardcore playerbase isn't amazing but they're infinitely more importance placed on community and so long as you say "me noob" people will work with you because their "lives" depend on it.
>>580822935>high elves are problematic for american political reasonsMe when I make shit up
>>580823081what is first and secondary name?like first and last name?
>>580823156So it's like epoch then?>Vranilla with wrath of the retail king classes ZOMG!!!!! So hecking EPIC!!!!
rend making overpower randomly light up, i am home. very inspired
>>580817572>PvP is opt in toggle on or offits over
>>580823081I don't even care, I will jerk off to blood elf baddies until I die. Classic wow with blood elf ass in my face at all times is basically heaven.
>>580822921i want M+ but not for gear chasingi want M+ that gives out mats and shit. i dont want to go an pick fucking flowers against bots. i want to play the game and a reason to return to dungeons after 60
>>580823259HC wont be available right away
>>580823293That's good tho
>>580822956The fact that they have no incentive to write fun-to-follow instructions and hints about where the quest mobs, npcs, and objectives are, because they can simply put markers on your map. The best part of the classic wow experience was exploring the world, it is what defined wow and it is what made you and other people fall in love with it. You had incentive, you had something to gain by exploring the world and finding where things are, and knowing where they are conferred you a degree of seniority and competence in the community.Adding things like quest markers and achievements turns the game into a checklist where you follow the market and do what you're told. You don't make adventures anymore. It takes the World out of Warcraft.You can try to counter this point with dishonest statements like "you can just look things up on wowhead" as if wowhead isn't in and of itself an enormous blight on this game, but this applies to every game. That said, other games have the good sense not to just put a line on your screen telling you where to go, and when they do, they get mocked derisively for it. You can't call this classic if it has quest markers and dungeon finders and transmog, you simply can't. The point of classic's revival is that all these systems diluted the game, and they're all being added back in but without the content and landmasses that came with them before. It's just Retail 2.
>>580823238>blizzard misreads the room and creates 10-man / 20-man raids that will die off if they have any modicum of difficulty>they could of home run it with piss easy faggot loving 40 mans that shitty timmy players could pug with ass aids raid leaderslets see which route they take and hopefully its not trying to create an end-game
>>580823081>horde is going to be 99% pretty elves again
So what happens when the game launches and xp rates are raised and mobs are piss easy to kill in the world?
naming my character Yt Man
>>580823293proof? (you have none)>>580823336dogshit take
>>580823293>nooo you have to get tricked into rolling on our 90:10 server so I have more level 30s to gank in the shimmering flats NOOOOO
>>580823238People have been clearing Onyxia with like 25-30 players for a long time now. I do wonder if it'll be retuned at all.
>>580823293excuse me sir hwere is proofs
>>580823179the dungeons this season are gigatrash, the loot pool for the dungeons is even fucking worse>>580823242kys mountsmogscheevies, you don't play the fucking game shitter
>be blizzard>be creatively bankrupt>allow fans to pour their work and time into a passion project of creating WoW that is worth playing in form of a private servers>shut them down and steal their ideas>blizz drones pay 60 bucks for beta access and another elf race
>>580823336good take
>>580823259Thing is none of it will be new. Sure we got some zone expansions, some new quests, and some new zones, but you can probably get to 60 just following restedxp without seeing even a glimpse of new content other than the troon elves running around.
How many characters can you have in your last name?Can I finally be Boaty Mcboatface?
>>580823094it was one gm, and the key it was done on wasnt even a top tier key and something the players had already done before already
Let's be honest... All of us are playing Skyborne.
Dots can crit now?????
>>580823238nothing wrong with 40 man but they are pushing 10 and 20 sizes now which will be a nightmare to juggle with a full 40 man raid also included
>>580823467Um actually classic ploosers won, this is a win, having less options and the only option is overpriced dogshit is WINNING.
>it hasnt even been 24 hours and wowcg is already extinctkwab
>>580823467Can you tell me which ideas were "stolen"Guarantee you can't even come up with one that wasn't stolen from retail in the first place.
you will be carrying my spriest no dps no mana ass through the raids and you WILL like it
>>580823467i wish they actually stole from private servers this shit is just retail minus
>>580823554yeah at first i was like this shit is GAY but after the initial reaction wore off i'll prob do a rog or druid
The devs are so good at their jobs, really putting the classic soul into classic plus.
>>580823560>>580823435>>580823357onyxia is joke difficulty and will stay 40 but everything else is getting revampedwell get naxx10 and 20 from wrath and youll eat it up gups
Retail sissies are melting down in wowg thinking it's going to be shutdown and they won't get the full experience after twenty years of procrastinating pay up, retoilets or it's over
>>580822816Transmog offNew models offClassic UII want SOME of the improvements like the moonlight but without the stupid nigger fog and bloom
>>580823632>barely surviving versus a tiny animalwe're so fucking back bros
>>580823081She's so pretty. Good on Blizzard for doing something right for once. Fuck the fact that they're paywalled, though.
>>580823632>classic art style?>but i only know how to make retail models :(>oh well implement them anyway :)
Will locks spam shadowbolt or actually have a proper dot rotation?
>>580823660But their gear treadmill...
>>580823653>play wow casually and enjoy my time with the occasional raid>or join a raid team and commit to a part time job to keep a spot in the raid to even playif i cant pug them then i wont do them, simple as
>>580823606nilla boomers and toilet crusaders will keep shitting here how forever is retail while they afk in the city and raidlog
>>580823745Yes.
>>580823443I ragequit azta'rec without getting past first intermission, then tanked a murder row just this morning>no uconcession accepted you fucking wannabe
>Updated Models>you now realize Sylvanas will have a new model in UCthiccy wotlk version please
>>580821140>>580821012Rogue readyhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#rogue/60/02320310000000000-30330000000000000-3223203310013011051I'd love to be a night elf but my friend really really really wants to only play HordeWhat's the next best pick that is not orc
dont care about the gamealexensual new schizo adventures to?SIGN ME UP
>>580823606lmao I didn't expect /wowcg/ to die THAT fast but it's actually gone, damn
>>580823836no, not the prune faceNOOOOoooooooooo...
>>580823467No refunds Ivan
cant wait for the raid loot to drop with sod runes already on them.
>>580823860alexensual, huh...a long forgotten legend...will he come back...?
I genuinely just want the retail UI gone, is it too much to hope that's something they revert back in beta?It's just too much toggling and adjusting that annoys the fuck out of me instead of just jumping in and playing
>>580823793do you think this debunks my assertion? god damn you're fucking retardedTOILETS OUTWE DON'T WANT YOU FUCKIGN FAGGOTS IN HERE EXCEPT ME AND THE QUALITY POSTERSLEAVE NOW
i really hate how they "wholesome chungus"'d the dwarf from the 2004 cinematic
>>580823854>What's the next best pick that is not orcWhatever race you think is cool.
>>580823606I played enough vanilla, and there's zero reason to play it over and over and over againNow the thought of having to deal with wowcg spergs is laughable, who the fuck would go there?
>>580823967I rolled my eyes when they revealed Dalaran, as if retconning its destruction by Archimonde once wasn't enough.
>>580823967dwarves have been heckin wholesome chungus since wotlk
>>580823936He always does, he will not disappoint
>Oh, and Ion? One final thing before you leave.>...?>The next World of Warcraft expansion?>....Yes, Asha?>It's called The "Last" Titan for a reason. Kill it. It's done. Forever will be taking all of the team's focus after Titan's final patch. No more Retail. Understand?
>>580823606thanks for betatesting classikeks
I haven't played classic stuff in a decade or so. I remember having a ton of fun as a Survival hunter back in TBC and Wrath. Anything to consider for PvP with talents and what not?
I feel left out wtf are trolls even supposed to go race wise now?
>Preserve that classic experience>On a giant undying megalith server with 500 layers
>>580823942i learned to stop dooming and embraced the toggle
>>580823745shadowbolt with bane of agony because you can also do one bane on top of your curse
>>580817572Going to roll the new race druid.Anybody knows if the run speed passive from horde works while shapeshifted?
>>580823942disnt they say you can turn it off in the options
>Watch streamer at blizzcon get to paladin>They start to squeam over how dogshit it is>"I MEAN SURE ITS NERFED BUT ITS STILL FINE"lmao shills
>>580823942I have never played retail in my life, the only wow I have played since 2010 has been wotlk private servers, and I like the retail UI desu.
Whats going to be the best tank spec since theyll be the highest in demand?
>>580824063
>>580824031World of Warcraft takes place 4 years give or take after that though. How long do you think it takes to repair a city when the inhabitants are all mages?
>>580823962>nooooo my safe space I want to play dress up as le dwarf!you are everything you claim to hateand I broke you
>>580824123>dude we care so much about preserving the community :)>oh btw we're going to seperate the community into 800 different layers
>>580824180Streamers are retarded. Why would you care about their opinion?
>>580823995You know what, you're right. Fuck it time to be discount night elf against all odds.Highborn time, fuck metagaming
>>580824189frost magewe're bringing back the spell cleave baby
>>580823942Don't worry there will be an addon for that.
>>580824189you dumb nigga just wait for next week for the betaIts a new game impossible to know
WHAT IS CANON NOWRETAIL OR FOREVER
>>580823554i always play night elf or troll anf thry gave nelf real racials and troll can play lock
>>580823854>What's the next best pick that is not orcI mean you can play a sex elf as Horde and their 1% haste racial is excellent.
>>580824129>>580824141The only toggle I saw was to use the "classic" default option in the UI panel, not to fully revert back to the old UI.That's not the same, you still have the ugly healthbars and the UI looks retarded>>580824184It's dogshit, it's a UI the devs ask you to build for them and it literally made me quit retail because it only made my experience worse.
>>580824245I was trying to see them show spell changes.And "wow just because conc deals less damage and only hits 4 targets isnt REALLY a nerf"Like nigger for real?
>>580824281he has to be trolling right no fucking way
>>580824290Forever is basically a soft retcon of everything post vanilla.
>>580824180How is pally nerfed? It was always shit, it can only go up?
>>580823860>>580823936>>580824037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XFTt-kAWCwhe will come back and itll be golden when he says WoW Forever is dogshit retail plus but he still plays it.
>>580824290warcraft 3 has undead paladinsonly one of those 2 games has undead paladins
>>580824240the only thing you broke was your brain type fucking dudes you fucking faggot go backnow>>>/vg/wowg/
>>580824290whatever generates the most seethe
>>580822157grim
>>580824206why wouldnt he pull the ripcord
I don't understand the point of the main and secondary name thing
>>580824290tbc and everything afterwards was a fever dream, says holly
CLASSIC ERA OH NO NO NO NOCLASSIC TBC ANNIVERSARY OH NO NO NO CLASSIC MOP OH NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>580824031>retcon>talking about wow forever>upsetlowiq...
>>580824334100%
>>580822314I don't think its that TBC "ruined" anything on its own. Design decisions/choices were made to fits it design goals/aesthetic choices. Flying around in a post-apocalyptic wasteland with giant planets in the sky rules. Base flying speed felt quite slow, you were incentivized to roam around on your ground mount. By the time you got epic flying, you would have spent a considerable amount of time in the Outlands, it was your reward for knowing and learning that space in a way. But then it became expected/base in all future expansions - every single time Blizz has tried to claw back flying, people have lost their shit.
wodbros...
>>580824290so far forever has no fag shit like in retail so imma go with that for now
>>580824231Having a story effortlessly destroyed by an intergalactic superdemon and then having zero scars of the event the very next time it is shown in the story is bad writing and worldbuilding.If a city of mages can rebuild itself in four years, there's no stakes in this story, magic just solves all consequences easily.
>>580824370its some gay shit from tranny fantasy or somethinggod i hate it
>>580824370Makes it easier to get a name you like.
>>580824327The person who posted that screenshot is the one who made the post in said screenshot.He also samefagged it 3 times exactly on post timer.
well blizzard nuked every clasisc guild now lolgood next week is the beta
>>580824387Classic MoP was already dead bro...
>>580824189druid 100%
im worried how gay they will rewrite quests and make new quests super pozzedany sign of gay shit im out
Reminder to fellow OCEchads to NOT roll on OCE you will regret it when you hit 50 (not even 60 lmao) and realise the server is completely and utterly dead. Again.
>>580824370so i can be Asmon Gold
>>580818280I might as well, the elves themselves are pretty fruity but the owlcat form is based
>>580824473this literally existed in 2007. shit was always gay
I think I gotta take the shot here and start a WoW Forever YouTube channel. I think I gotta do it /v/ros. For that side revenue.
>>580824338They both do, actually. Retail is getting UD, NE, and fucking Darkspear for some reason Paladins.
>>580824445your meds, schizo
>>580824431>If a city of mages can rebuild itself in four years, there's no stakes in this story, magic just solves all consequences easily.Is this a joke? Sorry sarcasm doesn't carry well over text...
>>580824473WoW has been gay from day 1.
>>580824063Wishful thinking ploosoid but the reality is, Forever will be short 1-2 month event that people get tired of and forget about and return to retail.
>>580824478>ocefags beg and beg for oce servers for every game>it dies within 3 monthsevery time
>>580824518>>580824562no i mean, that shit with a tranny disabled dragon in a wheelchair and gay centaur character type of gay shit
>>580824308Haste racial is super subpar compared to the sex of free ambush from shadowmeld and +10% crit for 15 seconds
>>580824478150 ping to west coast is not even real in this old ass game if you are trolling your stupid ass by rolling on oce you are genuinely retarded
>>580824586retard
>>580824473Nobody read quests since 2004.
>>580824348Post more hot trolls
>>580824586Yeah, blood elves have been right there since 2007 lil gup.
>>580824370Looks like it might be one single server. So ig this is how they'll deal with name scarcity.
what's her story?
>>580824370rp flavormegaserversso you can join the streamer event(last name mfa)
>>580824618i guess i upset the only furry gay disabled anon in the thread
>>580824340LOL ok I'll leave, have fun playing dress up at your no-vertical-progression kiddie table
>>580824662>Looks like it might be one single serverProof?
>>580824586They've had a disabled character in WoW since Vanilla: You, the player.
>>580824586There's no way they don't add that stuff, might as well bail now if it matters to you, it's not like the workforce that instituted that stuff was replaced or demoted and told not to do such cringe politicking
When are Murlocs gonna be playable?
So basically none of everything we did happened or mattered and it was all a dream? Exactly like I said would happen. Damn sometimes I hate always being right about everything.Next they're gonna tell us that the character creation process will start off waking up in C'thun's chamber after a 20-year-long tentacle & mind rape session.
Do I need to have a sub active for the beta?
>fury prot is deadFINALLY
>>580821123The way I met people in WoW back in the day was to focus a lot of my time on challenging open world content, like Moonbrook in Westfall or Jintha'alor in The Hinterlands, and playing with a cooperative focus. On a Rogue, I'd stunlock enemies for people, or sap extra enemies before they got into combat.On a Hunter, I'd have my pet tank for them and put a few shots in an enemy while passing.On a Priest, I'd throw a Power Word: Shield and Renew on people.All of this in passing. Not following people around or anything. People that want to socialize will strike up a conversation or throw you a group invite. Some might send a friend request. From there, it's just about being available when people reach out or feeling brave enough to reach out when you're looking for a party.
What is Alexensual up to these daysdid he find employment
>>580824660in classic azeroth pre tbc? no way, jose!
>>580824705>forever>both names>
>>580824671WoW Forever needs THIS>giant red arrow on her ass
>>580824535>decide to give players what they want by giving them back classic without all the changes and systems that diluted the game and turned it into retail>immediately add blood elves (blue)>immediately add new race/class combos>immediately add dungeon finder>immediately add quest markers>immediately add transmog>immediately add cheevo farming>immediately add an accountwide borrowed power system
>>580824724In Legion
inv to asmon layer
>>580824774last i heard he was driving a forklift for jeff bezossomeone else said he ended up on fentanyl and kicked out on the streetsidk
>>580824807gear is borrowed power.
>>580824772Thanks for the tip anon, hope i have luck to fin nice people
>>580821123when i was 17 i just got really drunk and my guild was raiding molten core so i went into ventrilo and yelled NIGGER then i got kicked from the guild and moved on to not being addicted to this game for the rest of my youth.
>>580823606shit was permanently blown straight off the board in just a few hours. ACK any% speedrun
I played classic last year and tbc. It's a nice game really. I played as a human mage. Which faction should I go this time? I checked some horde locations and stuff, it looks kinda worse to the eye I think. Is there any significant difference between people who play horde/alliance? Which side does have more foids? Where does 4chan land in terms of faction choice? Does this thread has its own guild every other addon/rework of the game?
>>580824807>decide to give players what they want by giving them back classic without all the changesthat already exists and it's called era. no one plays it tho for some reason
>>580820108I WISH it was SoD remix.Unironically would have been hyped for a fresh SoD over this.
>>580824894There will be 4chan guilds guaranteed
>>580824872>valid points brought up but my opponent is a disingenuous 4chan nigger
>>580824893i don't get itwhere is that yellowfeverfag spamming his images nowhe was too dedicated to not keep up the schticknow hes just gone with the wind apparently
>>580824807is there actually dungeon finder? Game is beyond cooked if so. I honestly think dungeons should give 25% xp after the first clear, even without dungeon finder, dungeon spam leveling meta has completely ruined every single version of vanilla.
OHNONONO
>>580824431A crackhead in my town caused a Taco Bell to burn down to nothing and they had a new one up in a couple of months. 4 years is plenty of time, hell they're still rebuilding judging by all the scaffolding and shit all over Dalaran in the videos.
>>580824894foids are impossible to say now that horde will get elves, could go either way. foids nearly universally play healers so they are slaves to whatever faction happens to be the raiding meta.
>>580824945hahahayour first rodeo?
>>580822314Flying mounts did yes. Makes the world small
>>580824807just toggle what you dont like off
>>580824997literally who
>>580824894The only difference is that Horde is better at pvp and you will find friends sooner in Barrens which is a big melting pot for all horde races.
>can't be fem tauren paladin with a big futa cockBLIZZARD
>>580824770might be enough threat even without defiance
>>580824997this is such a nothing issue to me because i haven't played since wow classic and thats enough time for me to wash the shitty wow taste out of my mouth to make me play again for 3 months and quit again.
>>580820207can you remove the gay tattoos?
>>580824894With Skyborne being both factions, and both factions having all classes, gender/total populations might be a bit more evenly split. Trying the other faction really does give the game an entirely different flavor. You're still doing the same 'stuff' but you have different flight paths, friendly NPCs, etc.
>>580824997i dont mind any of those
>>580825047no, I rode your mom for hours last night
>>580824867It was heroine but I wouldn't be surprised if he got hooked on fent since it's cheaper and more available. Dude really fucked his life up. I know a cousin of his who talks about him like he's human garbage.
>>580824997
>>580824894women will play alliance more. the only horde women players will be fem undead or the new skelfs. i've always played alliance as those mudhuts the no shoes faction live in just doesn't do it for me. in vanilla horde had better pvp racials and alliance better pve. but right now it seems alliance just has better both at this time.
theres dwarf mages in this, right?
>>580824997Literally anyone with a brain can tell this is designed for no one. Once the hype is over this will not appeal to retail or classic playerbase.
>>580824997>>580825150>2 minutes apartLMAO
>>580824997based and true, and the Forever name is dogshit
>>580821632The most bizarre thing is that they already had all of this shit laid out with High Elves/Blood Elves.Imagine>Start game as High elf>Throughout the starting zones your race is grappling with either accepting fel energy or denouncing it>After you complete the two zones and learning all about the pros and cons your elf character can either accept the fel energy and become a blood elf (horde) or turn away and become a high elf (alliance)It's all already setup. It's perfect.But instead we get... Sky elves...
>>580824997typical blizzard laziness and incompetence
>>580825137based futa lover
>>580825074Designer of the druid eclipse spell.Can't you read?
Making a Gnome Male Frost Mage with a big pink beard and moustache on WoW Forever.
>>580824989Seems to be the TBC group finder. No queueing for instances that auto teleports you.
>580824997>ex blizz dev throws away a good career>regrets it and shit talks on inane points for the most partyeah this is pretty common, he is baiting you and everyone else for (You) and engagementretards
>>580824997good takes but more lukewarm than hot, anyone could have told you the same thing
>>580822314>Play Warcraft 3"Wow I liked Illidan and Kael'thas and Vashj I wonder what they'll do in Warcraft 4">TBC releases"Oh the all went crazy and die. Okay"
when someone starts their complaints with the name of all things, I know I can just stop reading there. what a retard.
>everything is FINE just toggle and carry on
>>580824997Blizzard shows retail up to classic players asses and they love it!
>>580824997agree with 2no one asked for thisDoesnt mean it gonna be 100% unenjoyable to pay but its weird
It's actually crazy that I let myself get hyped up again for this garbage. I feel so ashamed. It's like I went back to the abusive ex for a fuck and now I'm already smelling the shame. I feel gross. I will never let myself get hyped or feel positive about anything blizzard again!
I played wow in 2006 when I was 11 years old (only got to like level 30something). I'll be returning for this. It looks pretty great. I know a lot of the hardcore classic fans are going to be upset about a lot of stuff but this honestly looks fantastic.
>>580825389yeah yeah, take the blizzard tranny cock in the ass. youll fucking take it. PAY THE SUB.
>>580824801so this means theres going to be 4 servers?
>>580825325>>580825325>>580825325>>580825325NEW THREAD BAKED>>580825325>>580825325>>580825325MIGRATE
"So we need to repackage retail to those Classic wahoos, lets delete the expansions, add some new content like we did in SoD and bring retail over to the new package. We can go from there once we have the Classic demographic in our clutches."- inside a Blizzard development meeting, circa 2024
>>580825457why are you such a faggot, we're on page 1
>>580825443when do i get a turn
>>580819254I like the new elves as well. Your opinion sucks ass.
>>580825495because he's gay for skyborn cock
>>580824997It's cool how every time someone has a criticism of something new added to WoWF its "retail" regardless of if it fits in or not. I understand he's painting with broad brushstrokes here but a good chunk of stuff coming in WoWf was planned and then scrapped Vanilla content (Mount Hyjal). There's no hot takes here, just a lack of understanding.
>>580824770Fury tank was always a meme perpetuated by greedy kike warrgroids who wanted an excuse to roll for both tank and dms items.
>>580825495starts autosaging at 750
>>580819404These look good, though...matter of personal opinion but I'm a fan
>>580825323I was just saying to my brother earlier that no TBC means they'll be able to amend the character assassination that those three went through in TBC. I would really like that.
>>580819561That's right. They are "Forever" armors. This isn't Classic.
>>580825447No
>>580823540>yeah they got caught cheating but it was only the one time
>>580819904This is the most powerful nuke we know of right now in Forever. I would not underestimate this one.
>>580822670>What the game really needs is melee hunters that one shot every other class and absolutely blow the fuck out of the meters despite level 40 bosses having more armor than naxx bosses
>>580822648I know it's hard to believe, but most people outside this website aren't constantly jerking off while playing the game.
>>580825102Yes, they are optional
>>580825547i don't like the elves. i can believe people who are excited about the elves. i don't like that they are charging 30$ for a race. i don't know how anyone could be happy that they are charging money for that. that's the "inch" that blizzard is taking. that's the part you should be upset about.
>>580824997None of this is a problem for me, dude is clearly just salty he got laid off (and I can see why). He thinks he is sounding like a visionary, but it is the opposite: He lacks vision
>>580825996lower the numbers i don't give a fuck. it was thematically cool.
>>580821412This would be the mmo to be your first
>>580824997Every single person that has tried to cash in on their status as an "ex wow dev" has been a lolcow tier retard. This guy is no different.
>>580826461John Staats was alright. He put out a very interesting book on WoW development and that's it.
what's even more concerning is that there will be no major changes to talents or spells. the game is literally out in 7 weeks.this is blizz after all and they do things slow so don't expect any "fixes"looking at the talent trees, warriors seem to be the king either way now that they get both blessings and WF
i worry that they're releasing it too soon. the dungeons they presented, the starting zone for the elf, the talents. it seems like it's still wet in the middle. what's that quote about delaying a game and getting your cock sucked forever?
>>580824430forever already has body type 1/2 so the fag shit is definitely there. nu-blizz ain't going to back peddle to OG warcraft principles and lore. shit's gay forever now
Apologize
>>580827070i dont see that as fag shit but rather low iq retard shit
>>580828361I won't do it.
>>580821019YWNBAW
>>580823540>I don't care and neither should you.Neck yourself, troglodyte. You and everyone like you is the reason shit sucks.
I have no idea why they keep hots alive and even add Xala'tath now if everyone is so garbage at this gameI even go afk to do something else so enemey wins fast and my team just keeps dying an dtrolling and refusing to let them end
>>580821019Unironically true
>>580823039They're saving kaelthas for later.He flees to outland mostly to find a way to save his people. If the portal doesnt open his people dont know how depraved he gets and they have no reason to approach the horde. They just sit and wait for him to come back.He can blink back to azeroth on tempest keep by old rules, or just open his own fel-fuelled portal back to silvermoon, and then you have an entire hostile nation ruled by a maniac without it needing to be an imminent archimonde level threat. Can actually have an on the ground war story against a quelthalas hostile to both factions and makes a great foil for an angry lich king. "The alliance and horde joined forces to liberate Silvermoon from the mad Kael'thas, and its citizens can now choose their destiny - play as high elf for the faction of your choice! (if you pay 29.99 for the privelege)" is marketing that writes itself.So yes keeping blood and high elves out for now is a good decision for the longer term story potential i think. They can always come in later. And in the interim those of us who understand that games cost money and have disposable income can live out our sexually nebulous blue elf fantasy with reckless abandon
why did you randomly change the general name? it was hard to find since im used to wowcg
watching some blizzcon streams, it's just hoards of fat bearded middle aged men just standing around with annoying pop music blaring.
>>580828361blue elves are still less offensive to warcraft lore than good guy eredar
Wow players really be like >this game fucking sucks ass zz blizz sucks now >today we announce....WoW Forever!! >yeeeeeeeeeesssssss omggggggg dudeeeee >I can't wait to pay again for the game XDDDD
When will they show tier sets. That's the one thing that decides my class and race.
