Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9585 - Second Fastest Thing Alive edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 16 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 09 December 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthg-links>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>580742214
IDW is trash
>>580821819But why change it?
You know, Sonic's Ass's timeline is far deeper than Sonics. He has THREE timeline splits instead of just two.
Good morningiona.
I wish for Sonic 2006 to make it to the big screen
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>>580822828it would be better without silver and blaze
>>580822621Based Eggchad mogging Fraudnic
>>580822919You get the Sonic 2006 movie, but you get Amy in place of Silver and Metal in place of Mephiles.
Coco is a sonic character.
>>580823920>dead artist
>>580822919Justice for my boy.
>>580823920She will be when Crash and Coco are desperately put into Crossworlds cause Activision doesn't know what to do with them.
Everything is cannon.
>>580824105This one game makes so many characterfags here upset
>>580822919You wish for the movies to die
>>580824669Because that game made the “Sonic’s shitty friends” crowd win, and subsequently bench all the characters
Shadow the Hedgehog remake
One badass hedgehog!
One jackass hedgehog!
>>580825174Yeah of Shadow 4 LET'S GOOOOO
>>580824669Every complaint about the story is by schizos that hate Sonic Team's vision and would rather fight each other than admit they don't like the character
>>580825502it's okay to not like sonic team's vision or the characters.
>>580825502I can perfectly understand what they were trying to do and still feel that the final product failed to deliver.
Smoke weed every day.
>>580825502The problem is moreso they weren't able to fully realize their vision because of bad dev cycle and business decisions.
>>580825502this>noo sonic can't go around saving someone that needs him or feel sad or lose a few battles >noo blaze can't help another character or seal an immortal lava monster with her royal soul>noo silver shouldn't need help to seal an immortal demon or learn something important from the character that was by his side from the start who has fire powers
But i like silver, although he does need correction.
>>580826239Without the tag, I wouldn’t know what Sonic game you’re talking about.
A slow Sunday is fine too.
>>580827224Yes it would apply to most of them lol.but 06 is a special case because of 13 whole missing cutscenes, entire DLC eps for every character, incomplete models and gameplay, and well, lore and themes being harder to understand for the average fan whoo probably struggles even with sa1 and sa2's themes.
I remember sega announced some sort of new animation months ago for the sonic anniversary. Did they ever released it?
>>580829119cursed picThey announced an animation?
>>580830180ntahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOdpBJdeOhI
>>580830254Man, someone needs to use AI to uncensor the panty shots.
>>580830254So they never released the full version on YouTube
>Me and my star crossed bestie, Blaze!
>>580825502Truth Nuke.Honestly can't wait to see them in the movies just to watch Auraturds and Blazeniggers suffer in equal measure. The ego of these people can fill the whole room , they need to be put down with a gun
Me and my cellmate, Fiona
>>580830980I actually like silvaze but blaze won't be in the movies. there's no reason to believe there will be any girls besides amy and maria if rouge wasn't there.
>>580830254That looks really cool.
>>580830771
>>580830254When was this supposed to come out?
Silvazefags are probably the most bitter and insecure shippers in this fandom.
>>580831468Sonamyfags, Sonallyfags,Sonazefags and arguably Sonadowfags are all worse desu.
>>580831052Rouge is a special case, I don't think we should make a rule out of this oddity yet.>She will be heavily censored and redesigned>She could have been saved for Shadow centered movies>Iizuka is autistic and he just wanted a movie focused on ShadowSo far, movie 2 and 4 introduced 2 new characters, movie 2 made during Covid. Why aren't they going to do the same with Silver and Blaze? Do we honestly believe there are going to make a movie out of Rush?
So, how far back did Sega kill the fake and gay lesbian relationship between Tangle and Whisper?
>>580831387it's slated for fall, my best guess is that it will premiere at that club chaos event
>>580831052a lot of what makes silver who he is is tied to the destroyed future that blaze helped him fix. even if there is no blaze the character, someone has to be his blaze because that loss, learning to stay optimistic, and tied by fate no matter how far apart is as key to his character as maria is to shadow no matter how much blaze or silver fans hate it
>>580831718Just make it a human character, he’ll be Silver’s Tom.
>>580831664The art here is ugly.
>>580831718I don't disagree but the movies write much different stories and themes than the games.>>580831624I see it, but overall we see a lot of silver merch and content push for the upcoming movies and not blaze.
>>580831851>Silver’s Tom
Issue# 57 Urban Warfare part 1 was published in February 2023. It would have to be decided by Sega at least a year in advance before heading to print.Ian and co. were lying for a LONG time.
What were your old headcanons for Sonic and how did you feel when you found out they weren't real?
>>580831468t. shipper
Shadow the squid cashier at the crusty krabs
What character actually gets the most slander in the fandom?
>>580832416Chris and Elise when they were relevant
>>580832416you are brown
>>580832416Sonic
Did (You) know?
Taz is like the wind
>>580823920>apple in her mouthANON, NO
Frontiers is a bit similar to 06The Big Bad is tricking a hedgehog to free him And in the end Sonic's friends revive himAll while Eggman is not really a threat, he even helps in the end
Douge
>>580834981Hot, sweaty, engine piston sex with coco.
Most mentally stable Silver fujo
>>580836039she draws the bombhttps://n.uguu.se/CYZpyJTZ.jpeg
>>580836178Fuarking kino
>>580836039Not my thing but at least she just draws shit instead of arguing with people about canon or quality of their ship like americans do.
>>580836039Silver’s new purple partner.
>>580836178>Not a safe linkAre you trying to put a trojan in my phone ?
>>580837302Litterbox is down, so uguu is the replacement
Silver is gay, for the good of the timeline, he must not procreate.
>no smoking zoneDoes Shadow comply or does he shoot the sign down?
Anon will see the sheep and say "Mating Press"
>>580837410He is supposed to be asexual or just not caring about such matters rather than gay or straight.
>>580837523Is this what people usually draw in the whiteboard?
>>580837410Don't worryHrt will make him infertile
I AM SICK OF GAY SHIT INVOLVING SILVER. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT NIGGA!?
>>580837745Least testosterone among other hogs
>>580837673Letting tumblrinas become animators was a huge mistake.
>>580837745Shadow is by far worse than Silver when it comes to gay shit
>>580837801>>580837745Sonic and shadow have more gayshit drawn of them proportionally, people just post the silver ones more because it baits people. just stop responding to bait.
>>580836178I can't see it either, is that the tor thing?
>>580837861Fake and gay. for every piece of faggot slop involving Shadow there are 10 where he is edgy and masculine
>>580837928>BaitMy posts and actions are utterly unclouded. They are all those of justice!
>>580837745>WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT NIGGA!?He needs a vixen character to C̶O̶R̶R̶U̶P̶T̶ redeem him.
>>580837861Shadow is the only one of the trio whose most popular ship is a gay one
>>580837997Don't bother with them. They think everything is bait
>>580837951>Nov 2006It won't be so easy to find if you have to dig 20 years deep for that fanart >>580838043This is actually true. Yikes
>>580838135I suppose for Sonic Sonadow might've passed Sonamy but i think Sonamy is still too much of a classic to actually be less numerous than sonadow.>>580837951Edgy and masculine can still be gay, arguably that attracts gayshit more than moe boys actually.
shadow attracts the fujos and the fujos add the other males to the collection. blackwood and silver exploding is just the beginning of a bigger wave
>>580838331The wave already arrived with Sonic Prime. You are the minority now
>>580838331Silwood is an IDW exclusive and the actual scenario is much less meaty than what people guessed, i don't think it'll have the same levels as game ships. that being said you're right the only thing that makes fujos attracted to a specific type of male is relevancy or being well liked, not what thype of character they are.
WHY IS MY CHAD EDGELORD ATTRACTING WEIRD FUJOS!? WHAT THE FUCK NIGGA?
Do we need more mandates?
>>580838545Mandate 1 : you will stop harassing IDW artists on Twitter for things you don't like
Insomniac Wolverine is what you get when you apply IDW style writing to other franchises
>>580838545We need more men on deck.
>>580838541Why do americans think how edgy or ''masculine'' a character is an indicator of how straight or gay they are. Edgyshit attracts more fujos and gays than cute or cheerful boys if anything in fanbases.
>>580838679It's unironic autism, femininity in a man associated with faggotry is just contemporary mental mansturbation from online degenerates. Anything like this 30 years ago would just mean that you're a either nerd or "classy" like double D.We're all just mentally focused on stupid sexual orientations because a lot of people never grow up and build real families anymore.
>>580838679THAT'S NOT FAIRFor my case it's because I'm stuck in the 90/2000sAND THAT'S NOT FAIR
>>580839232Even in 00s Sonadow was more popular than gay ships involving tails or silver. though ill be fair and say there are more fujos than now because they made all femlae characters either boring or nonexistant>>580839187None of the sexual orientation headcanons actually matter because sonamy is the only case of actual confirmed feelings, but even in fan circles its a forced meme that doesn't even lead to actual gay content.
>>580839273Do you think Jet is a bad boy? Like, the type of people who smokes at school
Fujioshi are no better than Archiefags. You both have the same problem. You want the characters to completely change personality.
>>580839892This is a problem with shippers in general
>>580839892Sega will comply with my demands, there is nothing you can do about it
>>580840071you are replying to sonamybestie so of course it has to be archie specifically
Archiefags always admit they hate Sonic
>>580840192What's wrong with making Sonic racist to birds?
>>580840120Archiefags like yourself spent an entire year trying to gaslight people into thinking Sonamy is OOC. You and Fujoshi are both retarded
>>580840441>nerve struckdropping tactical TRVKEAnd before you die> gaslight people into thinking Sonamy is OOCIt IS OOC
>>580840441Sonamy as in two of them having feelings for each other isnt OOC, but the overtly romantic portrayals or the more generic portrayals of it will be. Also it's one person, not ''fags'' you should stop responding to the obvious troll
>>580831718>blazefags coping this hard.She isn't needed for any of that. Blazefags said so themselves and they are right. It could have been Ambef the Mink instead and literally would have made more sense.
>>580840583Who cares what a criminal who will never touch Sonic again says? Yuki Naka also has nothing to do with writing.
How do we get rid of Sonurgefag?
>it's just one personlike sonamyfags calling whomever disagrees with their retardation duofag. heh.>>580840707>Who cares what Sonic's makers got to saythen you come in to complain about archiefags "liking ooc stuff"
>>580837523
I killed your shitty rat.
>>580840818We know it's you at this point retard
>>580840924I literally don't give a crap about sonurge YOU MENTALLY ILL JOBLESS NEET BALDING SCHIZO
>>580840701It was blaze because of ''themes and such'' that they didn't get to elaborate on due to the game being unfinished, that being said i think it's a silvazefag not a blazefag.
>>580832416Amy/Elise/Chris/
>>580840818>Retardation You use examples from Archie. You don't know anything about Sonic. >>580841004Imagine hiding behind Yuji Naka statements that are outdated just to try and fuck over Amy further. You're no better than Chris.
>>580840701not a blazefag I see both fags playing victim to the other side like youre doing right now over silver's character as made by sonic team
>He thinks people outside his shipping discord give a fuck
>>580841079I feel like peopl should just admit they don't like the characters as much as they think they do instead of pretending they know them better than sonic team or their creators.
>>580841202Everyone who says they miss how Archie wrote Sonic should just admit they never liked him
>>580841051Using archieshit and dubshit to disprove sonamy is like a sonamyfag using that one nicky manga to prove sonamy
>>580841004The only reason to constantly attack Sonamy like this is if you're a shipper in the first place
>>580840192This dialogue is the corniest shit lmfao
>>580841261At least archieshit is non canon, people beef with canon to try to change it are more of a problem than archiefags really
>>580841370I am shitting on that guy. and I know sonamy is where it hurts. sonamy being trash aside
Archiefags are being obvious now
besties should be required by law to keep a 45 meter distance from others
>>580841890"Bestie" is a flynnism
amy gave up. and this came from sega's ceo and not some lore team rando. the japanese are aware. write strongly worded letters all you want. besties should give up
uuu... whisper...
>>580840882Mephiles…
>>580842106Stop trying to turn Sonamy into Sonally. Amy doesn't want Sonic to slow down. Stop using some kids book as a weapon.
Sonic just learned about Mobian hypergamy
>>580842106West shit
>>580842164>stop using official medium (obsolete) as reference, chud >:(
>>580842273West shit=doesn't matter
Sonally was going to die forever and then Ian Flynn brought it backYuji Naka shit doesn't matter when he was fired and he even went to jail Sonic admitted he loved Amy in FrontiersSonamy haters ignore these things for no reason.
>farts>sharts>AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAmeds and beds, or even better meds and job
whisper....
I feel sorry for anyone who takes shipping seriously
>Yuji Naka: *Makes Sonic*>sonamyfaggot: He is better off in jail because he gets in the way of my Sonic ship
>>580840110NTA is that the full pic?
>>580842694this
>>580841014It sas Blaze because Blaze had to be shoved somewhere into the game and thry did the bare minimum to acomodate her.
>>580841079I like Blaze and dislike Silver.I think Blaze is a more poorly conceived character and Silver while shlocky is better concieved.Both are dA OCs.Blaze is not needed for Movie!Silver anymore than Amy was needed for Movie!Shadow.
WHISPER!
>>580843337>i like shitazeWhy?
>>580841202Cream is a shit character. There is in fact war in Ba Sing Se
>>580843194Eh things like the whole sol stuff, royalty theme fire stuff , Iblis needing royal soul + fire alignment etc. feel too specific for it to be randomly choosen, that being said the game is unfinished so it doesn't really elaborate on what they wanted exactly, there are unused files that suggest Amy was going to go into future with them.It could technically be someone else besides blaze but the game's themes don't really work if there isn't some kind of sacrifice by x character either way
No i meant for real, i killed your shitty rat.
>>580843000>>Yuji Naka>> *Makes Sonic*
Is there a canon word for the giant rings that take Sonic from place to place like special stages? People use "Warp Ring" but isn't that just from Archie or the Movies?In Fronttiers they aren't just used for special stages but also general transportation. Were they always like that since SA2?
>>580843421I just like Bifauxnen characters. I'm an Utenafag. Also if your character is friends with Amy, I'm more likely to like your character.
>>580843337we'll see regardless on how they'll approach blaze and silver for both the games and the movies
>>580843486>Eh things like the whole sol stuff, royalty theme fire stuff , Iblis needing royal soul + fire alignment etc. feel too specific for it to be randomly choosenLike i said, bare minimum. You just want it to be more significant than it is because that would be more satisfying to you.Also, Aiko Senoo is best Doremi
>>580843540>sonic falls to shit the day yuji naka stepped out and still hasn't fully recoveredallow me to remind you of your favorite sonic team people stance on your crackship
>>580843715Shipping is mental illness and you should see a shrink.
>>580843751>crackshipHow is Sonamy a crackship, retard?
Is Sonic anymore popular in Japan than Metroid is? Because Metroid is a fucking flop series in Japan, sure there are superfans, but it's still super niche over there.
>>580843883As much of a crackship as sonaze, sonally, son-yourOC, retardcope and seethe and deny and delude all you want.
>>580843883NTA as a lawyer would say:>It depends.Do you ship sonamy? Then it's the most serious ship.Do you ship literally any other ship? Then it's a joke, even if it has nothing to do with Sonic or Amy.
>>580843998You showed your true colors. You're trying to make Sonamy equal to ships you think should have a chance.
>>580843742Bare minimum because the game is unfinished,with shit ton of cut content, but that's not the point, the point is someone, even if it was Dapple the mink or whatever needed to do sacrifice for the silver story to work in the way they intended.My favs were Onpu and Momoko last time.
>>580843939Sonic mogs Metroid in Japan. Yet doesnt have the reputation of "being hated by the Japanese" like Sonic does because it doesn't have agendafags around it likr Sonic does.Also Metroid isnt even that popular in the west either. It's seen as important moreso than popular on the West.
Another sonamyfag meltie? Jesus, you delusional retards never take break
>>580844075Meds and bed... *yaaawn* or meds and job.>>580844169always. daily.
>>580844141Metroid does have agenda fags though, Other M made people think only Westerner devs (directed by Japanese creatives) can make Metroid.
>>580844112>Bare minimum because the game is unfinished...gotta be honest, this is cope. I don't see how anymore work on the game would have made it more significant than it was.Again, you are just holding onto the idea because it's more satisfying and comforting for you to believe so. Also shipping is mental illness.>but that's not the point, the point is someone, even if it was Dapple the mink or whatever needed to do sacrifice for the silver story to work in the way they intended.And Movie!Silver isnt gonna be in a 1 to 1 retelling of 06 just as Tails, Knuckles, Shadow weren't.
>>580844335Except the Prime games were divisive for being First Person and half of them are seen negatively. Most complains about Other M and women is literally just racism and moid-feminist rhetoric used to mask dudebro behavior.
>>580844481Yeah i don't believe she will be in movies or that 06 will be adapted straightforwardly either, but if they did it there needs to be someone who needs to have the role.
>>580843751Naka was the one that put Sonic on ice during the Saturn era for NiGHTS. Naka also didn't force Iizuka to make an Adventure 3 like was planned and let him make Heroes.But in actuality, Sonic went to shit because game production became more complicated and expensive with the switch to HD. Every dev was struggling with the growing pains of HD development.Also,I don't care about SonAmy, I just wanted to set the record straight that Sonic's creation was a Team effort.
>>580844526Sonurgefag falseflaaging as a Nakafag
>>580844782Sudden_Future propaganda...
>>580844903Its believable that suddebfuture is a 4chan poster cuz i remember him making a comment about how preferring BoC to idw is sonamyfaggotry.
>>580844782Sonic Team was so goated...
>>580844782>Club Nokia
I genuinely hope there is a Silvaze movie so their respective solofags can neck themselves on it's release
>>580844141Believe it or not, I actually doubt that Metroid sells less than Sonic in Japan.
Sonamychads mindbroke you
>>580845002He goes around spreading anti SoJ and anti Amy propaganda online in general.I caught him going around insisting Iizuka intentionally sabotaged Boom and Naka hated Amy and "sabotaged" Sonamy because he despised the character and the ship or whatever. Also pushes the myth that Naka intentionally sabotaged X-treme or whatever.
>>580844657>Most complains about Other M and women is literally just racism and moid-feminist rhetoric used to mask dudebro behavior.I don't understand this?Other M (perhaps erroneously) put Sakamoto into an Ian Flynn situation where fans started to re-evaluate his past games(Zero Mission and Fusion) he became kinda a boogieman for the franchise. I think the only major voice defending Other M was people like Dodson, and that was mostly because it controlled like the NES games.
>>580845282In terms of games? Sure, Metroid is a first party Nintendo property represented in Smash Bros.But the brand as a whole? Weaker.
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>>580845353Sonamyfags like tootieschizo can be annoying at times but Sonamyschizos are on another level it's hilarious
>>580843594Blaze is not bifauxmen, that's her overrated side that tries to look better next to Silver so he doesn't overshadow her existence immediately. she's the insecure loner type, who appears as shy and socially stupid.
>>580844782(me)>>580844903>>580845002>Sudden_Future
>>580843715Spoiler, they'll approach Silver with better voice acting while they'll approach blaze with the Sally treatment
>>580845651>sally silverrapefag...
>>580845524Can I please get a rundown on Tootieschizo because this is the 8th time i'm seeing this name with no context
>>580845371Western fans just kind of created this myth in their minds about Samus as this stonecold world destroyer and it was the mid2000s where people treated feminism as = shitting on anything remotely feminine like caring about babies instead of just making female characters into MasterChief.A lot of the anti-woke sentiment nowadays reads the current situation all wrong. "Girlboss" stuff exists because companies are pandering to people in this fashion to try to corner multiple markets. Male feminist types and neoliberals are the ones that push for that because its a very millenial idea of what a good female character is.
>>580845762fop shipping bullshit and then one of the mentally insane kept spamming /co/ for a couple of weeks and calls anyone he doesn't like a trixiefag like how sonamyfaggot call everyone they don't like duofag
>>580845818Yeah, actual women don't care for girlboss stuff most of the time.
>>580845527These things are not mutually exclusive tho?
>>580842110>>580842686>>580843404Shut up nigga
>>580845901>Trixiefagthe mere idea of there being FOP shippers who have rage and spite towards these barebones characters is alien to me
>>580846042the mind of the mentally ill is full of surprises
>>580845901It makes sense that tootie and amy attract the same fans
>>580845973They are, it's almost the opposition to be bifauxmen while being very shy about your appearance in front of everyone and how you can barely talk to anyone and overthink, it does not have any masculine look to it, the only way Blaze appears that way is just to glaze, which is being next to Silver or any other better character, so you have to glaze her up and make her confident, socially competent, direct, ...ect, basically make her masculine to glaze her overly feminine traits so she doesn't look bad.It's like making Amy not give a fuck about Sonic while talking about him in front of shadow.
>>580846042Shippingwar culture is largely a /co/export in general.
>>580846432I feel like you're importing a lot of assumptions into it that aren't inherent. Either than our youre talking about something else.
>FOPHey, we don't watch cartoons for children here.
>>580846675Why people draw these minimal dark expressions? They look like masks.
>>580845818>created this myth in their minds about Samus as this stonecold world destroyerI mean, maybe not "stonecold", but the world destroy thing is kinda true...But I see your point, mid-2000s games in the West probably couldn't "get" Other M to appreciate what it was trying to do with Samus as a character, even if it probably wasn't a good Metroid game.Likewise, while they were initially divisive the fans came around to the Prime games and saw them as a unique take that was still true to the Metroid formula.(It was a Wind Waker situation).
>>580846925it's another form of exaggeration
>>580847025Most lazy ass untreatening stylization.
>>580847130it's not, but okay
>>580846675>>580846897How does Evan Stanley do it?
>>580846587Did Blaze ever look bifauxmen to you in rush?
>>580847194it is though? Don't put masks over characters.
>>580847253Nta but yes
>>580847269it's not, just say you don't like it
Sally!
>>580847376I don't like it and they look stupid, guy was turned into Gangle from TADC.
I miss Blaze/Silvercuck poster...
>>580845474>In terms of games? SureThat's what I was talking about, but I should've made that more clear.Jesus.
>>580847486I don't, may every cuck burn in hell.
Now we pretend metroid is smaller than sonic?
>>580847593Hey, St. Joseph doesn't deserve that. He's the dad that stepped up.
>>580847880God is famous for cucking jews.
>>580847234I'm hesitant to give her too much credit yet. She still has 2 more comic to drop the ball on.
>>580843068https://x.com/Johnithanial/status/2090898389948834236
>>580846943Samus herself doesn't even really destroy planets. Usually they blow up because of some swlf destruct sequence being triggered.The thing to keep in mind is all of that stuff in general is a smokescreen. None of it mattered to why Other M was criticized for writing. Not really. It was, like a lot of feminist sounding rhetoric, just a nice and progressive sounding excuse for less flattering shit.It's no different than people complaining about Sonic in 06. The real reason is the audience was mostly dudebros who saw dissonance between the fantasy in their head about getting to be dude nukem and the reality of the character they were actually playing as.Western audiences in general have main character syndrome and reduce characters and leads to self inserts in general. So having Samus reasonably respect a guy that limits your abilities pissed these people off. Things like a woman and her maternal feelings is "cringe and gay" erhmmm I mean, backwards and sexist! etc.It didnt really matter if they could get it or not. The audience simply wasn't mature enough to or open to getting it. This was around the same time people complained about Sunshine having voice acting. Even tho the voices themselves worked great for the characters, etc. Take Amy for example. A lot of yhe hate Amy got was largely just because she was the cute pink girly girl character. But just saying that is a bad look. So nowadays people couch it in her being "problematic" or "being nothing but her love for Sonic" or "problematic psycho" or whatever.
>>580826213
>>580847253She is literally dressed like an anime prince/noble.
>>580847325Rose tinted glasses, look at her dialogues, she spends most the time talking to herself, not confident with her approaches, very emotional with her status and gets dragged a lot, her cold nature does not come from being professional, it came from the insecurity of being unprofessional, a ruse that gets dispelled by the end.
>>580848143Thank you but I don't have Twitter.
>>580848286Who are treated as a ridiculous type in japan, telling you that she's just acting.
>>580848159I don't really care for casual dudebros who simply aren't interested in most non STK + shadow charas but listening to twitterfags really ruined sonic
>>580847769>pretendYou literally only ever played SuperMetroid.
>>580847769Eh... I'd say they are about even, Sonic is just more of a whore and focuses on quantity rather than quality.
>>580848567Get fucked i only played metroid fusion and other m. So i'm not even accustomed to strategic guides, i just follow the tunnel and enjoy the mood.
>>580848458What's your point?
>>580846925Becauae that's how he looks like
>>580848626Wow i didn't know samus had the sonic effect of "feeling big, but it's actually small".
>>580848769>only played metroid fusion and other m.Even worse. I also prefer Fusion. Not a fan of the series in general. I like the idea of it more than the actual experience of playing it.
>>580848897Blaze is no bifauxmen, she's the lame nerd girl that is silent and tries to prove herself.
>>580848939I don't know how anyone got the impression of it being big. It always jist seemed like SNES millenials astroturfing the series to me. Most people literally only know about Metroid because of Smash bros. Same as StarFox.Everyone i knew knew about Sonic but barely anyone knew anything about Metroid.More people wefe fans of fucking Megaman.
I wish there was a Sonic X season 3 video game
>>580848939Sonic has the bonus of side media like cartoons and movies. Those bloat the fuck out of it's fandom size while game sales barely move.
>>580849086No lol. She just attracts a lot of these type of fans.She is a noble bifauxnen with the "quirk" of being a girlfailure hot mess under the surface.
>>580849054Sometimes i do feel like a lesser fan, because my media are more guided than the rest of the games.Still, story-wise fusion is still inspiring even today because i love how a bunch of pixels made me shit my pants without a real jumpscare, it's pure dread and anxiety.
>Sonic Team decides to move over to Sony as their main partner for the games going forward>right as they do this Square Enix leave Sony for Nintendo >Kojima leaves Sony for Microsoft>every Sony studio shits the bed with even Insomniac fucking up>a PS5 emulator shows up out of nowhere and can currently run Demon Souls at 15fps this early
>>580849267Well, sonic took over american in the 90s. Samus took advantage of the female pretagonist being a new thing, instead.
>>580848939>TFW no Metroid game has been able to overtake Sonic Heroes in sales.
I'm so glad people are getting tired of the quirk chungus era of character writing.
>>580849414I mean that's a schizoanon but i think in general western fans have a bit of trouble understanding what gap moe is. which is why softdowfags are so common for example.
>>580850114>softdowfagsThese people need to die. They all need to kill themselves.
the tranny sonic fags on twitter are jobbing hard to swlu and miia community. several of them deleted there posts or locked accounts or deactivated. they are getting ratiod left and right. how did it change so fast in 3 years?
>>580850643nobody cares about twitter drama
I cant with you, what groups are you people in>people hate Ian more than Pollock>Sonitrannies are in retreatNone of these things are happening, nothing ever happens, the truth is in the middle
How would a Sonic Metroidvania play like?Could it even be done?
dramafags, please, it's too early...
I didn't pay attention to rouge's character much before but after playing more games i realizedas much as people who judge her character based on what her tit size are cringe, in actuality she was less of a ''femme fatale'' or promiscous character when her boobs were bigger, she literally just had boobs and was occassionally teasing/flirty in often obviously not serious ways. nowadays they make her moan and flirt with actual insistance. so it comes off as more sexual despite having less breasts.
>>580850925It's 4pm
They were smart to target 120fps with Metroid, Superstars would have probably gotten a lot of good PR if it had the mode
>>580851061Rouge doesn't even flirt that much in the games
>>580850869you're not stealing my ideas, sonic fangame dev
>>580851438Yeah, just occasionally, which SOA flanderized despite flattening her lol
is raining
>>580850813Those are both true
>>580851916No they are not
>>580852006They literally are
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The wind is Sonic
>>580850869Not a full game but tails adventure is one.
What are the opinions you guys had change over the years, when it comes to either gameplay you used to like more but dislike or used to disliee but like more now, or characters you used to like more or dislike more compared to old times, etc. etc.
>>580853024I used to hate Riders because of the pit stops
>>580850869Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal and Sonic Boom Fire and Ice.
>>580853024I used to think aura farming bosses were hype as hell, but now I kind of think they're just boring. Frontiers might have made me realize that most. All the Super Sonic titan fights were not very good, exciting, or fun.Or maybe it was just Frontiers.
>>580853024Rise of Lyric is meh. People overstated what a disaster it was because they wanted it to be a second 06. It isn't a particularly bad game. It's just a dull Jack clone. The kind of licensed game you would see for a disney movie in the mid 2000s. If it wasn't a Sonic game people would talk about it like it's some kind of hidden gem like Ty the Tasmanian Tiger.I would argue that Jak 3 is unironically a worse video game than Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric.
>>580853703Frontiers felt like it was pandering to AMV kids
>>580850813Pollock does a good job voicing a beloved legacy character while having politics i disagree with he largely keeps to himself.Ian does a questionable job writing for the series while having a cult of personality aroundnhim that white knight him constantly while having politics I disagree with he keeps less to himself.
>>580853986Even penders has more work ethic, political wise.
>>580850869Metroidvanias are a slop genre for klepto-autists who like speed running and square peg in square hole gameplay. It's a slop genre that only gets so much Indie representation because it is easier to develop for relative to the playtime you can squeeze out of it. Same with nu-roguelikes.
>>580853986>having politics he largely keeps to himselfTruck...
>>580851061>i realized>as much as people who judge her character based on what her tit size are cringe, in actuality she was less of a ''femme fatale'' or promiscous character when her boobs were bigger, she literally just had boobs and was occassionally teasing/flirty in often obviously not serious ways. nowadays they make her moan and flirt with actual insistance. so it comes off as more sexual despite having less breasts.Rouge doesn't even really flirt that much in the games, and when she did it was obviously ro fuck with people. Now it just feels like she is just a straight up flirt. Her being "sexy" was aechetypical rather than her being actively titilating.
>>580854217>klepto-autistsAre we running out of labels?>easier to developit's basically the open world of arcade platformers, i don't think it's that easy to make. Indietroons just ruin everything they touch with their weird obessions.
Every day without Marine is a bad day
>>580851606In Ian's mind, Rouge is "the femme fatale character". So she should be written like Black Cat or Cat Woman and actively flirty and junk. Its a combination of appealing to plain tropes and seeing it as fixing the writing.All her bios make it clear that she seems like that type on first glace but on reality is a calculating materialist who works off of profit and lost. Her charming people is tactical and selective. She isn't just actively trying to make everyone horny just because all the time.
>>580853986>while having a cult of personality around him that white knight him constantlyI know I'm gonna sound like an Ian white-knighter but is this really his fault?
>>580852504Knight of the Sonic is The Wind's theme song. Everyone knows that.
>>580854897Yes if you play blame games for your entire carreer.
Uh oh... Sticks was right about something big. What conspiracy has got her looking like this?
BOOM STICKS IS OOC
>>580822919Elise is the Queen of Solenngland
>>580823920RIP the only good softcore pinup artist Crashfags hadHope you guys are okay with AIslop recreations.
How does ring collecting for Tiny chao garden work? does it count all rings in all levels in one sit for how much you collected or is it just the last level you completed's rings?
first angy knucks staring at smug shadow of the thread
>>580824669Auraver fags hate it for bandwagon reasons, hence why they larp and claim Silver had no personality prior to their awful AUsEvanver fags hate it because it didn't make Silver kinder, moe, and a sub for dangerous men.Archetypefags are what's killing Silver as a stand out character.
>>580853024I used to dislike Elise but now realise she did nothing wrong and we were all just hating on her because kisses and fairytale romance is cringe or whatever.My opinion on Blaze went down. I legit just liked her because she had a superform and fought her own Eggman.My opinion of SA1 went down. I went back to play it and it just didn't age well.My opinion of SA2 went up and down in different ways. I love the hunting stages and find the shooting stages okay at best now and just less fun to replay overall by comparison.My opinion of the Chao Garden went down. It was a product of its time and just not something I think works in current gaming climate.Heroes went up. I always liked Heroes but replaying it recently, most of the issues I had just...went a thing anymore. I actually didnt have a problem playing all 4 stories in 1 sitting. The emerald hunting was what annoyed me really.I used to think the controls were very slippery but I just dont find that they are anymore? Its not like I have a long storied history of playing the game over and over either. I grew up with the PS2 version so maybe its just less of a problem on GCN?My opinion of CD went down. Granted, I had never played CD past Tidal Tempest prior. I just dont find it fun outside of music and aesthetic.My opinion of 3&K went down. Its still my fave 2D Sonic but I realised i dont actually enjoy playing as Knuckles and collecting 14 emeralds is kind of a drag. I dont even mind the length of the game like most people do. But when I replay it, I dont bother with Hyper Sonic.My opinion of Battle went down. I still enjoy it enough but I didnt realise how much your enjoyment of the game is reliant on getting lucky with good move drops for Emerl. The game doesnt have a traditional leveling system, all you get is skill points. But those are pointless if you dont get worthwhile moves for Emerl to make use of em.Still like Mania but a lot of the magic wore off.
Auraverfags are the worst. They convinced themselves they're the Silver equilvalent of windfags but they are NOT
>>580853324...what? Why?
>>58085616406 is still the best portrayal for Silver and Solid for Shadow and Sonic.
>>580831172Blaze, the strongest cuckquen on Bloblandia
>>580853703I mean tbf, Sonic bosses have always more been formality and spectacle anyway.
>>580856343I don't want to stop
>>580836039bishie couple
>>580853776I'd argue that 06 itself is overhated but we arent ready for that convo.But yes, it was a lol cow situation where people wanted it to be bad so thry could have more things to mock and so they could push fandom agendas, etc. But that's true of 06 itself.
>>580854897Yes, because he actively cultivated it. It's part of his revenue stream and his online identity.
Triple S
>>580848943sonic and his daddy who's about to fuck him
I notice that whenever people here are shitting on Sonamy, they're always posting another ship. Sometimes it's tsundere Surge slop or "Sonknux". You fags are obvious and you can't control yourselves. You like to pretend to care about this stuff so you can attack Sonamy but you just want Amy out of the way for your retarded non canon ships that ruin the characters.
>>580856510Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Spectacle bosses just don't feel that spectacular anymore.
another bestiemelty, It's so tiresome
>>580854745>it's basically the open world of arcade platformersNot in regards to development. Its efficient because it lets you reuse assets and content by having the player just roam around and backtrack a lot in a single core location, gated by item progression.Open World games have to be designed with the idea you can go anywhere and are larger in scope and have more in depth systems involved.
>>580856821>>580855142Are the actions of Krack's and Miia's white knighters also their faults too?
>>580857093don't rope us Sonknux enjoyers into your shitposting, I have literally zero ill feelings toward Sonamy
>>580856521...then dont use them?
>>580856839Silver transitioned?
>>580857287I don't care about krack and miia and your grandma and your mother and your father and your uncle and whatever niggerschizo astroturfed problem that is entirely localized in twitter small wars.I want to talk about ian and only ian because i know ian better.
>>580857479Based Sonknux poster
>>580857287Their "white knights" just commit the sin of...supporting them.even though leftoids hate them for not liking trannies.More people complain about them and their "whote knights" than white knights actually doing anything.But putting all that aside, those two are random nobodies on twitter. Ian and Pollock are officials who work on the brand. Treating them as comparable is idiotic.
>>580857143Besties are always mad, ever since Sonic Prime
Can i beat krackschizo with a steel road? Always bringing up random namefags to stir shit, kill yourself you and all of twitter.
I want to eat Surge's ass
>>580856510this guy felt -earned- when i was like 8 years old.
Have you considered not using "Bestie" to say "Sonamy Fan"?
>>580857730>sonic heroesjust shoot me
>>580858281Sonic…
sonknux anons rejoicehttps://files.catbox.moe/hhs8d8.jpeg
>>580858878Put that hedgehog in his place
>>580858878niiice
>>580858445Didn't think Blackwood was like that.
Sonamy fans should accept that sometimes people will like things that aren't canon and that's okay
>>580858550Yeah, but Besties is more funny
>>580857817Do Ian's white knights do anything outside of support him?
Sonurgefags still seething and malding so much they talk alone.
>>580859426You need to calm down. There is only one Sonurge fish and he likes baiting you
>>580859296That's not the problem, the problem is they insist sonamy is ''ooc'' while hyprocritically liking even more ooc/less supported ships, idgaf if you like big x sonic otherwise.
>>580859586We are many
>>580844335Well we saw what happened to Prime 4 with Tanabe thinking Retro can unfuck BN Singapore's mess after proving themselves with Prime Remastered
>>580859894>insist sonamy is ''ooc'' while hyprocritically liking even more ooc/less supported shipsWho the fuck does this aside from Duofag specifically
Have a lovely sunday and upcoming next week!!
>>580845371and we had like retard mouthbreathers like Moviebob and Arin being on the defensive too, mostly because they're total saps and heard the Ninja Gaiden team (a very shattered one) was helping with the game and Bob being a delulu droneboomer.
>>580859586Anon let me do my job.
"in character", "on model", "canon", etc. only matters if you're Sonic Team or contracted to publish official mediaanyway femsonic is hot and on model and cute canon and in character
>>580839187>femininity in a man associated with faggotry is just contemporary mental mansturbation from online degenerates. Anything like this 30 years ago would just mean that you're a either nerd or "classy" like double D.Anon, we've been calling sissy faggots "sissy faggots" for centuries. I don't know why you somehow think this is anything new. There is literal Roman Empire-era graffiti that still exists calling some guy a faggot because he acts feminine.
>>580860372I disagree. Fans shouldn't be allowed to mischaracterize the characters because then you get fans like Evan who start canonizing their own OOC ideas
>>580849346I think it would have been another Adventure engine spinoff or a sequel to Rush Adventure with a lot of reworks to the original story.
>>580860174I've seen Sonallyfags, Sonazefags and Sonadowfags do it repeatedly online on how it's ''not canon'' or that their ship has more evidence or whatever
TAILS IS THE BEST!!!!!
>>580860481Are you really claiming Sonallyfags use characterization purist arguments? Delusional bestie.
>>580850869We had Tails Adventure and Sonic Boom 3DS games (especially Fire n Ice), both are pretty solid.There's also Chrono Adventure if you're interested on notable fangames (LakeFepard made it)
>>580860461>you get fans like Evan who start canonizing their own OOC ideasWouldn't happen if there wasn't so much internal miscommunication at Sega. A better franchise would've hired her for her qualifications and properly reigned her in.
>>580854217>Metroidvanias are a slop genreNo they aren't, the real slop genre are the ones trying to be more Souls x Castlevania but in the frame work of Hollow Knight.
>>580860438>Anon, we've been calling sissy faggots "sissy faggots" for centuriesYou've been calling sissy faggots "sissy faggots" for so long over mannerism that now everyone wears the stereotype and is incredibly toxic about it. Good job faggot.
>>580860620It used to be common to consider it ''objectively more canon/objectively better written'' in 00s to 2010s, nowadays they moved to other shit.
>>580860694A better franchise would hire a writerEvan is not a writer shes a graduate from art school.
>>580860258Thanks, you too.
Is Barry a man or a woman
>>580860461>>580860927Sounds like Sonic Team/Sega's problem. Fans can do whatever.speaking of whatever tailsxzeena is cute and canon and on model and in character for both of them
I grew up without realizing, things that give me short doses of dopamine don't anymore, i have to keep going this way now? is this why adults go for smoking and drinking?
>>580861063Barry transcends our feeble understanding
>>580861063he's a woman
Sonamyfags hate Sonic
>>580861129
>>580858504I was like 11 when I beat him but true.
Sonamyfags need to stop taking the most obvious bait in the world.Shippers in general need to stop getting mad about other shippers
>>580861063He has a shape sifting tentacle like mephiles. It can change to cock and vagina at will
>>580859391Yes, they harass you constantly for having any criticism of him and his writing.This is what you dont seem to get. My issue with Ian isnt about dumb fandom drama on social media. But pasocial losers make it the focus because they only care about that because they have no friends.
>>580861506No one's taking bait. It's one guy spamming both sides. Every day. Every thread. Okay, there's like one guy that takes the bait, but I haven't seen him here yet today.
I want to take every bait, every bait is mine.They put expensive slices of cake on baits, i'd be a fool not to bite.
Haha, imagine having ice cream with Jewel the Beetle on a cute summer date and you boop her snoot and get ice cream on her snoot and she giggles and blushes and she's just so goddamn cute and you just wanna hug her and marry her and give her so many smooches
There is no bait. I actually believe Surge is the best girl for Sonic.
>>580860258Based Amyenjoyers!>>580861058
>>580861058
>>580861737Yeah...
>>580860258you too amybro
>>580861812Cutemy...
>>580861115the rest is herehttps://files.catbox.moe/rxooeb.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kckq17.png
>>580861812>>580861826ミ!
>>580861926>female eyelashes>weird ribbon bowI don't trust you.
>>580861926so a yellow ribbon means a lot of different things, such as suicide awarness, hiv awarness, troop support, as well as Israel support in the current warwho the fuck decided this
>>580861713Sparky literally lost his shit to sonamyhater and that’s just one of the bunch of sonamyshippers that keep taking the bait
>>580861737>Jewel
>>580862050HmmmfI'm saving this for tomorrow morning
>>580862230Incorrect. Spark won that debate though, duofag went quite until he was sure Sparky left to start spamming sonurge again
>>580862071What does 3 line runes mean?
>>580862274>180cm/6ft>implying i'm not a manlet
Dont goon at the morningYou smell the entire day after that
>>580862425katakana for MI
>>580862274
>>580862274I'm 6'4 tho
>>580862409Sparky admitted that Sonamy’s dynamic wasn’t reciprocate and didn't actually work, and went as far as to call Surge green Amy for some reason
>>580862274Ever seen Sapphire Safari?
>>580862425Mi I assumed anon forgot the rest if Amy's name
>>580862589
>>580862681>Sparky admitted that Sonamy’s dynamic wasn’t reciprocatehe was right, that's true>and didn't actually workit does work because that's the dynamic, Amy enjoying the chase>and went as far as to call Surge green Amy for some reasonhe said that's what duofag's interpretation of sonurge would turn into if it became "canon" which again, he is right.
>>580862531Oh I know, I just calling them runes and pretend to be confused everytime I see japanese characters here, is funny to me.
>Sonamy isn’t a crackship because it doesn’t work!Sonamyfags ladies and gentlemen
>>580862856No, it's エミー. But trying to be cute and posting only "my" in English doesn't read right, so I always do it in Japanese. I could do "mi" I guess, but at that point may as well post the rune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoHXohGgct8
You're just afraid of yuri
>>580862904I think she is trying to tell us something, I can't point my finger on it though.
>>580860461>Fans shouldn't be allowed to mischaracterize the characters because then you get fans like Evan who start canonizing their own OOC ideasThat wouldn't be something you'd have to take into account if communication between SoJ and SoA wasn't absolute dogshit, Sega themselves are also at fault here.If SoJ and SoA communicated with each other clearly from the start and didn't bicker over Sonic, westshit never would've existed in the first place, they have only themselves to blame.
'iona!
drawfags are based
>>580862984You just contradicted yourself
>>580863397That's pornography!
>>580862628(you) and Jewel
Second Barry of the thread>>580861063Ive always seen him as male since his debut
>>580863587How terrible!Where?
>>580863701on the internet!
>>580862856Lady Amy Michele Rascaille Rosaline IV
>>580861063>>580863663He's a cute boy
>>580863127Cutemy!
>>580863671
>>580863545Why? They never do anything for us, and those who do will be samefagged to death.
Der fuchs *squish squish* Lieben!
I don't think I can post the other art this artist made.
>>580863671Maybe ill do a fox version later but my list is too full
>>580861069>Sounds like Sonic Team/Sega's problem. Fans can do whatever.>speaking of whatever tailsxzeena is cute and canon and on model and in character for both of themNah, Zeena wants Sonic
thank god for our drawfags
>>580863782Amy in suits is amazing but yet so rare. The one briefly shown in Sonic X is so cute, I could swear I had a screenshot of that but I can't find it.
>>580864125why did you randomly said this?
There is no good western videogame on history.
>>580864178You're the Meganamy poster, right?
>>580864316He is baiting duo
>>580864178Holy moly.
>>580864323Whiteboard looks pretty active this weekend.
>>580864347Wizardry
>>580864323God, this is awful, so much empty space, boring cats and boring lizards.
>>580864323>top left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOrSLnjfJGw
>whiteboardchads still cause duofag to seethebased
>>580864505>>580864551You guys realize you're talking about last year's whiteboard, right?
>>580864323Amazing work, as always.>>580864378Megan amy poster..?
>>580864630https://youtu.be/kmC6OImeNXY
>>580864505>>580864810That's trooncord slop from last year you blind bitches.
he's mad
>>580864925but why are you so upset, duo
>>580864925This confirms whiteboard shitters samefag too, kek
>>580864746>>580864925lol, whoops. I was trying to be supportive and forgot to read.
>>580865059Blaze if she was sick as fuck
>>580864997i wish she got more art>>580865060same
still holds true even now
>>580865054No duo, the only samefag is you. It's literally the latter half what the post said than your delusions
>>580865349uh oh pisscord meltynot everyone you dislike is duo btwNext time read images before you blindly glaze them faggot
>>580865209I'm surprised bait doesn't have more art, she rounds out the sthg mascot trio very well
the sthg whiteboards are fun though
>>580865448Not everyone is an amyfag, sonamyfag, discordfag also because you dislike them, funny how that worksBut I do admit being blind in this case but I also don't know why would someone just upload an old borad but oh well
>>580865528I think her problem is she doesnt have a meaningful dynamic with them.Bump and Sage have a very clear sunny/shade dynamic
>>580865983>Bait is the Silver of the /sthg/ trio
>>580865897As someone that likes them they are alright, i guess "fun" depends on the person since is just an empty canvas that people draw in. I am glad people, even if they are a few amount of people, get together and draw sonic relaed stuff together every other week but if you aren't an artist yourself not sure what you can get from it besides being a lurker and seeing the finished piece like I do
>>580866192makes sense I suppose, I think it's just nice when this general does community made projects together. the sthgmansion worldoftext thing started up again earlier this year but unfortunately I think that petered out rather quickly
>>580864516I hate those fraggin beheading Lvl 8 Ninjas man
>>580865528Bait is a black sheep, really.A lot of people didn't want her when she was first posted, and she doesn't really fit into the headcanon of Bump and Sage being roommates.Be the change you want to see in the world, I guess.
>>580865897Fun for the drawfag discord server?
>>580866545I like the Tails CYOA, I hope anon continues it
>>580866576Wasn't there a fourth one too?
>>580866192>>580866545It's all discord inside jokes and has nothing to do with/sthg/
>>580866870Maybe some fake ones.Shitpost the Scarab? Suck the Cock? Some shit like that.It's always gonna be Bump and Sage to me, though.
>duofag melty still goingsad
>>580866870The only one i can think of is “lurk the raccoon” and as you can see she isn’t very popular
I know who you are
>>580866870>>580866980Lurk the trash panda is think was the closest to being a "forth member" judging by the amount of art she has on the booru but idk she never really caught on
I can’t wait to see the same garbage in the whiteboard tonight
>>580867243I always forget what animal Lurk even is, assuming I even remember her name is Lurk.
Whiteboardfags: Waiter waiter, more terminally obese self insert x espioand maybe a idw slop appetizer
he's trying so hard
Let me know if we get any more Bump on the whiteboard, that's all I care aboutWe all need more Bump in our lives
doe....
>>580868027I love bump and sage equally but yes we need more bump art in this world
IDW if anyone was allowed personality
>>580868576Yes!
>>580868589It'd be fun if they were going to fight without making it about shipbait for either blaze or fujos
>>580868381wolf...
>>580868787I wish I was that chair
>>580868589It'd be fun if blaze wasn't there
>>580868589Discount trunks vs discount Sephiroth
>>580868979Discount franchise i’m afraid
>>580868589>IDW if Silverfags were allowed to write Silver as Shadow 2.0
>>580866870Lurk the trash panda?
>>580864323Guys, this is from 2025
>>580869180Shadow doesn’t talk like that
what does the vampire guy even do that could potentially rival silver and blaze powers?
>>580869180>>580869351Silver is the impulsive and emotional guy
>>580869416Taste their blood to get temporary versions of their powers
>>580869553that sounds cool but i don't believe it since i don't know if idw is even allowed to show blood
>>580869180>shadow is when not friendly>>580869416Mass mind control apparently (we don’t know if its him directly or that weird stone, or both) i don’t know how that would work on Silver and Blaze though, i imagine they’ll make Silver flat out immune to it
>>580869693Oh I made it up
maria where you fuckers
>>580869732I mean... Silver is normally friendly but he is also emotional and can get easily riled up. Shadow can be hostile or agressive but is not impulsive or overtly emotional like Silver is.
>excuse me, my esteemed guest, you're not holding your cup properly>WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU SAY TO MEHow do you do a worse job at characterization than IDW? Silver at his most rash couldn't throw Amy out of the way so he could kill the guy who ended the world because Amy said "no! >:("
>>580868589There is no reason to be hostile to someone who is giving you so much food for free. Silver is holding the tea cap like someone who has no manners unlike Blaze. Why would Silver be mad? Blackwood is just pretending to be friendly until he can sneak attack. This fan art makes no sense from his point of view, it reeks at people who want fighting for the sake of fighting.
>>580869732I feel like this is the third or fourth time we've had a villain who just mind controls people
>>580869931I do like it when Silver is almost bipolar in behavior, being friendly one moment then being a schizo jerk the next for reasons that make sense to him, it would keep things interesting, especially in IDW
>>580869960I mean it's a shipfag fanartist rather than an official writer but even then, Amy was an innocent bystander who tried to help him, not a dickhead.
>>580870074Probably it makes them easier to write since they can do hard tasks by just dumbing down the rest of the characters. It's very lazy and I think they do it since is the less flashy way to show a power that can disable other strong character
silver would be cooler if he just had like a completely different personality and completely different character design and lived in a completely different series and if he just wasn't the same character at all really
>>580870543I wouldn't realy say the fanart is an example of auraver. though she is mainly a shipfag than a purist.
>>580870041>Steals Tails’ rings in Rivals for no reason
>>580869825
>>580870543This is how all off-model art looks like to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwa8FwUajWgTEN MINUTES UNTIL RACCOON (maybe) GETS RUINED IRREPARABLY
>>580870664>For no reasonHe needed them. And Tails, the little faggot that he is, wasn't going to share any of them. Deserved to be desu
>>580868787cheesed to meet you
>>580871119Is this the rush remake the leftoid Christian is making? I'm not giving that idiot any views
>>580831468lol lmao even
>>580870664Anon, this situation would be if Tails gave his rings to Silver unprompted, only to be met with Silver cussing him out because Tails told him to not waste them.
IDK writers should have just gone all in on the vampire aesthetic they are clearly going for Blackwood and made him legitimately supernatural. Even if they could have him drink blood due to the age rating, give him flight, illusions, natural mind control, and other shit like transforming/merging with shadows or something. This would also also him to somewhat match Blaze's pyrokinesis and Silver's telekinesis
>>580871543this is probably a kid, why do you have this saved anyway
WLECOME TO GHE MIND OF A DIFFEFENT KIND
>>580869180>Shadow 2.0that is no shadow character at all lol
>>580871628There has to be some sort of mandate against it. Is there a single IDW character besides tangle with any powers? Everybody else just uses gadgets and mcguffins.
>>580871628He's going to lose in one issue and be humiliated.His reputation within the fanbase will not recover and he will not be remembered as he is now.
>>580869931Male Amy
>>580871712>this is probably a kidold man pedophile , one of the biggest sonaze artist too lmao
>>580871813Jewel has the power to cause incredible erections.
>>580871628A thing i am noticing with modern writers/developers is they’re too scared tk fully dip into the pool and barely commit to what they’re going for, just so they can quickly pull back if the fans dont like it, just yesterday i was severely disappointed by the same phenomenon
>>580871851that's just how IDW villains are unfortunately
>>580871993Yeah but thats most the female characters
>>580871907
>>580872179does this one actually end yet or do they just hovercraft off to nowhere as the final panel?
>>580871907>>580872179You already posted this one.
>>580872179>>580872304Shhhhh
>>580871813I mean, even in the games, most of the cast dont have special powers. Tails is just smart and uses his tails like a propeller.Amy just works out and uses a hammer.Vector, Charmy, Big, Espio and Rouge are just skilled. Cream flaps her ears and has a well trained Chao.Only Sonic and Knuckles are just superpowerd. Shadow is bioengineered and Blaze is tied to the Sol Emeralds. Silver is from the future, but psychic powers are uncommon in his time.
>>580872436>>580872329Maybe someone posted in a previous thread, I don't know
>>580872471>Amy just works out and uses a hammer.No, she's a mystic now, apparently.
>>580872471They all do have powers, it's just that some characters are born stronger than others and no amount of training can change that.Maria and Gerald have powers for fucks sake, the former can knock out gun soldiers with a flying kick and the latter had to be restrained with giant metal chains for his execution.
>>580872652Cute ship
>>580872471I'd consider tails at least abnormal. We know two tails isn't something any other fox characters have.I guess surge also has powers, but she's also probably just a terminator. Who knows for sure though, god knows IDW is never going to explain shit.
>>580872179>>580872436>>580872652Best Tails ship
You can't fuck an AI, Tails
>>580872892That's it?
>>580872889No not literally. She is just intuitive and lets Jesus take the wheel.>>580872890No Sparky... get of powerscaling and vsdebate wikis.
>>580871487No, it's Windii's gay retranslationFeaturin' strewthless Marin fer eazy readin'
>>580871908>>580869931(me)I don't think so but it's interesting how their hatebase parallels with either ship drama or being disliked because people see them as not cool and masc enough (girly and loud for amy, ''whiny faggot'' for silver'')
<3>>580872913I like it a ton>>580872980If he hacked her would it count as fucking?
>>580869180Amazing how Silver being Shadow 2.0 is primarily based on a personality Shadow doesn’t have>>580869960>>580870041I imagine the idea is based on Silver catching on to Blackwood’s passive aggressive speech against him (being a lowborn or whatnot) but I may be giving the artist too much credit.
>>580872980
>>580871543Even Shadriafags are less deluded that Sonazeniggers. They just can't post what they enjoy like everyone else. Worst type of posters by far, and that a pretty high bar
>>580872894>guess surge also has powers, but she's also probably just a terminator. Who knows for sure though, god knows IDW is never going to explain shit.Surge's powers are artificial. She is a cyborg and has electromagnetic generators inside her.It was explained.
He's IRRESISTIBLE
>>580873078>What in smokin' tarnation!?Windii was never good with character "voices", I hope she stays mad forever that the Sonic X Discotek translators vetoed a lot of her bullshit.
>>580873071Sparky would insist that Tails can surpass Sonic because he's 'supposed to', not because he's actually demonstrated the capacity to, Tails has powers, but he can't even run as fast as Knuckles can, he needs his tails to reach the same speeds and Sonic clears him easily.Fuck off, there's nothing normal about being able to destroy giant mechs with toy hammers or tail whips.
>>580873071>No not literally.I wish.
>>580873107He's even optimistic in the face of adversity and likes baking.
>>580873549>normalWord is doing a lot of heavy lifting, powerscalerbro.
>>580873078that reminds me, when do you guys think the next BOC chapter is gonna drop?
>>580873549Why does it matter that he needs his tails to propell his speed? He's still just using his regular body, and Tails can keep up with Sonic easily
>>580873078>>580873493>Southern-Amerimutt MarineCursed.
>>580873493No one else was going to translate the japanese games, but what do you think are issues in her translation?
>>580873568What reason have you to say the opposite?
>>580873137>blackwood only invited blaze over, and he’s PISSED that silver showed up tooThat sounds pretty good
>>580873905It's not even limited to just IDW anymore, anon. That shit's in Frontiers. She just has psychic power now for some fuckass reason.
Little boyyyy
>>580873078I was watching the video and I dont see what the issue is.
>>580850643HOLD THE LINE!
>>580873576
>>580874328Anon all she did was read tarot cards and say "that didnt help me".Youre making things up to be mad about. Why are Sonic fans like this? Amy plays with girly cards a couple times and they think she is a fucking mystic.
>>580874690>Sonic fans>it's Americans
>>580872471Tails can break through solid steel, and he’s not a character known for training his body for strengthThere does seem to be an objective difference between mobians who can do things fantastical things like that and normies who can’t….wispons not considered here of course
>>580874690>all she did was use psychic powers she never had before to make cards float in the air in front of her and do a tarot readingYeah, okay. Fuck you. Fuck Ian, too, but fuck you.
>>580874641
>>580872019i fucking hate korra because of this>villain have good ideas so a true ideology conflict can happen>lolnope he/she is comically evil a lot of writers get afraid of their own ideas later on
>>580875191I feel like the real issue with korra is they had no long term plan for anything. ATLA was planned out from the start as a full show. Korra was a dice roll if they'd get more seasons, so everything has to be as shallow as a puddle. The new show doesn't look that interesting either.
>>580871993>Lesser telekinesis
>>580874937>m*bians>break through solid steelEveryone who is playable can. Including Maria.
>>580874946>all she did was use psychic powers she never had before to make cards float in the air in front of her and do a tarot readingAnon, she is a Cyberghost. She isn't doing anything of the sort. You're being a schizo.
>>580875819Stop making excuses for this shit. It shouldn't even exist. Fuck you.
telekinesis is just advanced wind
>>580875191You're literally making things up to be mad about.Or just regugitating HorseshowTroon Youtuber opinions.
>>580875618Tails doesn’t stop being able to do this outside of gameplay though
>>580875882Next you'll tell me you think Tails is able to summon his Cyclone with his mind.Meds.
>>580873805>jus' add apostrophes!there isn't a more basic way to render a kansai accent lmao, she's already friends with koalas.>distilled piratespeak toosovlless
>>580869825?
Patting Tails ^-^
>>580876090Proofs?
>>580876206>mEdSGet out, Ian.
>>580876039>You're literally making things up to be mad about.toph literally said that in the show lmao amon ideas were interesting before the bloodbend shit unalaq civil war was good before muh darknesszaheer is the only one that was done good but anarchy is just dogshit excuse for violence.kuvira ideas were soo good the show had to tell you "noo she hitler/napoleon!!" so she feels like a villain.
Tails is STRONK
>>580875191To be fair, all the villains introduced permanent changes and progress to Korra's world. They may have been comically evil, but the show does concede to a degree that their views against the flaws of the world of Avatar were still somewhat valid. Besides, the real villain got away with everything.
Why do i see a lot of tails X sage lately?
>>580873738If you can do something humans aren't capable of, you are superhuman, and therefor, not normal.What's the matter with powerscaling anyway, it's important for maintaining internal consistency within narratives so the suspension of disbelief is not disturbed, if you fuck it up then you fuck up that part of the story.>>580873791Sonic's top speed being much higher than Tails' and Tails being able to keep up with Sonic are not mutually exclusive, demonstrably, as far back as the OVA. Both can be true at once.
>>580876571>toph literally said that in the show lmaoYes, that's how writing works.>never denies just regugitating Lily."the show didnt do my fanfic instead so its bad" isn't criticism
>Amy shouldn't have psychic abilities as a cyberghost because she never did that before.Picrel would have caused so much autism if it was released today. lol
>>580876691>if you can do something humans aren't capable ofYou yourself demonstrated they can though.>What's the matter with powerscaling anyway,It makes you say and believe retarded things just so your character can be stated to be stronger than other people's.
>>580876691Sonic's speed is higher than Tails' but not much higher. Tails never showed any difficulty following Sonic anywhere. Tails being very fast is the main reason why he's Sonic's best partner, among other things>>580876648Because it's cute
>>580876980She randomly has a sonic clone
>>580876980Many characters do impossible things in that game, people would just ignore it
>>580876691>it's important for maintaining internal consistency within narratives so the suspension of disbelief is not disturbed, if you fuck it up then you fuck up that part of the story.No it isn't. It's completely dependant on the type of story or fiction.Also youre doing doublespeek. Powerscaling isn't the simple act of internal consistency logic in the verse.It's the art of parfoliofagging for the sake of seeming smart on the internet because you want characters you likes primary purpose to be being a better beatstick on wider fiction discourse.
>>580876980Amy's cards and dowsing are played as gag in that game, so I shouldn't have to explain to you why that's not the same.
>>580877167>Sonic's speed is higher than Tails' but not much higherI also like blatantly lying about my headcanons in a Chinese image board.
>>580877167>Tails never showed any difficulty following Sonic anywhere.Tails repeatedly states he has trouble keeping up with Sonic in multiple games. https://youtu.be/asdBeP4HFPc?t=10
>>580877167>Sonic's speed is higher than Tails' but not much higher.Boost. It can be assumed whenever Tails is keeping up with Sonic, it's because Sonic is holding back for him.
>>580877468Ooc then. Tails was specifically created to be able to follow Sonic around. This is demonstrated in Sonic 2, Sonic Adventure, Colors, as well as an excerpt from Sonic Channel
>>580876980People still think she summoned a psychic Sonic construct for some reason.Dont get this retard started.>>580877217Ffs man, like clockwork>>580877382>gagsThey literally work, unlike Frontiers.
>>580877693>They literally work, unlike Frontiers.Of course it works, it's a literal Looney Tunes-tier gag. It's only funny if it works.
Someone in the Lina thread pointed out that Windweaver's design is the same as the awful "Dear Sega" video.https://youtu.be/WgPIR89oYdgNo wonder this shit failed.
>>580877687>Colors as wellAccording to your own gif, all the wisps are faster than Sonic. They are so fast they let themselves be captured by Eggman. Fuck off Tailskek, nobody is buying your lies
>>580877632No? Sonic can boost in Colors and Tails follows him throughout the game. Furthermore Sonic doesn't slow down for people, and if Tails needed that he wouldn't have been Sonic's partner in the first place
>>580877687>Ooc thenShipping is mental illness.>Tails was specifically created to be able to follow Sonic around.And even in his introduction, he is depicted as only barely able to keep pace rather than being a profuse match for him at full tilt.
>tails same speed as speed lmaoooookeeping up =/= KEEPING UPhttps://youtu.be/SLp7s-9OzXI?si=hBBv9bMBrC0FyQHS&t=26the only one who is equal is shadow with shoes and close psy silver and blaze
>>580877910Doesn't Sonic stop if he gets too far ahead during his races with Tails in SA1?
>>580877910You didn't play Colors. Tails is usually ssperate from Sonic and Sonic has to come back to see what he is up to.
>>580819898It better be something good that addresses all the problems people had with Frontiers
>yeah the character whose name is a reference to speed, who was made specifically to go on adventures with Sonic without issue and whose flight was a way to make him fast in a way that didn't make Sonic's speed unspecial is actually not particularly fast. Must've been a coincidence by the creators
New Sonic rpg when
Tails is fast and runs with Sonic>>580876597Yes!!!
>>580878045>shadow with shoesShoedow is a Flynnism. Shadow is as fast as Sonic in general. His air shoes are mostly aesthetic and hovering.
>>580878045Tailsfag on suicidewatch
>>580878053Yes, just like how you have to stop for Tails to catch up in the Classics.
>>580878128Sometimes. There are also cutscenes that imply that he's following him, and in Colors Ultimate they're always together
It is easier for me to believe Sonic slows down than to believe Tails can actually keep up.
You know you could just say that the execution of the character fails its concept and move on.If Tails isn't supposed to be substantially slower than Sonic, then Sonic Team fucked up.
>To Sonic, Tails is like a cute little brother figure who looks up to him, and also a dependable partner. He spins his two tails like propellers to accelerate, and can even fly through the air…! He’s a trustworthy presence WHO SOMEHOW KEEPS UP WITH SONIC'S SPEED and even rescues him from danger with his flying ability.Plus, Tails’s mechanical skills and sharp mind support Sonic in countless ways.>Sonic place IMMENSE TRUST in Tails, who expands his horizons and SOMETIMES EVEN LIGHTS THE WAY FORWARD.>But the greatest strength of this duo is surely their “bond of the heart.”>Sonic is certain that with Tails, and Tails is certain that with Sonic, THEY CAN OVERCOME ANY CRISIS.>THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OTHER NEEDS WITHOUT NEEDING TO SAY A WORD. PERHAPS SOMETHING BEYOND MERE TRUST EXISTS BETWEEN THEM.>These two will surely continue dashing through countless adventures together. As the FASTEST and GREATEST duo…!
>>580878292>Shadow is as fast as Sonic in general>His air shoes are mostly aesthetic and hoveringAre you sure you know about Sonic lore?
>>580878191Takashi Iizuka says he wants to make a Sonic RPG before he retires so I'm guessing that will be the last game he produces. Earliest retirement age is 65 and Iizuka is currently 56. He's going to be here for an estimated 9 more years unless he retires earlier
tailsfags are legit delusional man lmao what is next? he is more smart than eggman?
>>580878740Fuck 9 years of slop ahead
>>580878476>SometimesMost of the time. On a rare occasion he comes down flying from a random direction where Sonic is. It isn't presented as him having followed Sonic to get there and more just meeting up at the same place on their own.>Colors UltimatePlease don't tell me youre trying to argue Tails Save mechanic is literal. Istg
>>580878476>>580878853Colors Ultimate isn't even canon.
>>580877848Same guy or some complete sucker Aussie who thought he was cooking
>>580877468>repeatedlyThe only instances I know of in the games where Tails says Sonic is too fast for him are Heroes and the English version of Colors>>580878672Play the games>>580878730Yep!
>>580878734>didnt read the whole postLike i said, it's a Flynnism. He made it up in Archie and ported it over.Stop using early IDW as evidence for things. It's notoriously off-brand.
>>580878463You don't. If Tails goes off screen he just flies back almost immediately afterwards. >>580878128https://youtu.be/XNnQf0fDbds?is=IaGAAfuFuuwEnVK->>580877973Literal bullshit. If Tails wasn't able to consistently keep up with Sonic he wouldn't have been Sonic's #1 partner in the fucking first place.
>>580878734melty in 3 , 2 , 1....
>>580876980Isn't this by the TWEWY devs? Makes perfect sense
>>580878853>It isn't presented as him having followed Sonic to get thereYes it is.And it's not just Tails Save, Tails has dialogue in Colors Ultimate
Damn, you guys are still posting in here. Whats it like talking to the same 4 or 5 people everyday?
>>580879024>Can't cope award>Blame everything he doesn't like on Ian award>First Iizuka cocksucker award
>>580879017>The only instances I know of in the games where Tails says Sonic is too fast for him are Heroes and the English version of ColorsHe says it multiple times.
>>580877231The characters do impossible things in Frontiers too, people didn't ignore it.
>>580879059They're literally arguing against the character's concept itself lol
>Oh what? This character's name is Miles Prower, as in mph? Pfft, whatever. Since WHEN did character names ever mean ANYTHING amirite
>>580878824With the amount of time it now takes for Sonic Team to make a mainline game from scratch (4-5 years), we can estimate that Iizuka will be producing 2 more mainline games if he decides to retire at 65 and that's not counting the next mainline game that is set to release in 2027 and the movie tie-in games.After he retires, Shun Nakamura will become the leader of Sonic Team and after Nakamura steps down, Morio Kishimoto will be the new leader
>>580878984Sucker Aussie but the guy responsible for the awful "Dear Sega" redesign is also an Aussie.https://x.com/javedlsterrittOn the brightside, this make Ty the Tasmanian Tiger look so much better.
>>580879073
>>580879059>You don't. If Tails goes off screen he just flies back almost immediately afterwards.No, he gets offscreened for like 6 seconds and you have to stop for him to land near you or else he never catches up.>bullshitIf Tails wasnt [wrong thing im stating] he wouldn't be [arbitrary rank i attribute to him]
>>580879265
no one is calling tails slow by the way just that sonic needs to hold back with him (imagine pikachu on the ultimate intro)
>>580879073We've been over this already for years Showdowfag. Welcome back btw. You're reading the line wrong.It says his speed comes from skating jist above the surface of the ground. Shadow skates by speed skating. Not propulsion.The line is awkwardly translated. Ian himself has stated Shadow isn't only fast because Airshoes. Sega has stated he is simply equal to Sonic in every regard.
>>580879073Where's the J(P)
>>580879427He is called Miles Per Hour because he can go at two miles per hour at max speed. Anything else is too much for him
I just got confirmation that there have been zero playtests, in house or otherwise for the next Sonic game.They literally have nothing to playtest. We're not seeing a new game until around late 2027 to mid 2028. This franchise is fucking cooked.
>>580879553>No, he gets offscreened for like 6 seconds and you have to stop for him to land near you or else he never catches up.Have you ever played Sonic 2 in any capacity? Never in my entire life did I ever have to purposely stop so that Tails comes to me. He literally just reappears and you often don't even notice>arbitrary rank i attribute to himYou mean the rank Sonic Team themselves gave to him?
You guys remember when shadow used his hover boots to levitate in the intro of SA2 then just never did that again
>>580879214>Yes it is.No its not. Not in the way youre spinning it.>>580879292>blaming the writer for the writingWow how dare it lmao.Iizuka himself has said Shados is equal to Sonic in every regard. No caveats.Ian has stated this himself in later Bumblekasts.
>>580879805Why should we believe you
>>580879424Exactly
>>580879880Didn't Shadow use them to levitate/fly in Prime?
>>580879427His name is Miles Prower, not Sonic The Second. He can go fast without being as fast as or close to as fast as Sonic.
>>580879880He still does. You can see it in Prime.Levitates=no friction=go as far as Sonic
>>580879816>Have you ever played Sonic 2 in any capacity? Never in my entire life did I ever have to purposely stop so that Tails comes to me. He literally just reappears and you often don't even noticeRead the whole post this time.>You mean the rank Sonic Team themselves gave to him?My point is that it isnt relevant.
>>580880042:)>>580880118He can go fast enough to keep up with Sonic
>>580879734It's not even that, Sonic doesn't hold back, but he almost never reaches his top speed either because he almost never has a reason to.No one is even entertaining the idea that Tails is slow, just that there's levels to this shit.
Sonic characters for this feel
>Sonic goes on adventures with Tails specifically all the time for no reason brah, Tails is the closest person to Sonic for no reason brah
>>580879880He does it in Shadow05 when you shoot certain guns in air.>>580880289>He can go fast enough to keep up with SonicAt cruising speed. When
>>580822919>monkey's paw curls>you get your wish
>>580880336Tails, thanks to his tails, is fast enough to keep up with Sonic. This is the official fact on the matter>>580880407It's because they love and trust each other
>>580880610Keeping up with Sonic /= top speed is similar to Sonic's
Reminder that you guys are defending the notion that Sonic slows down for others
>>580880752If everyone else was just as fast, he'd not be Sonic
>>580880407Anon you are taking the "slowing down sentence" too literally.When Amy doesn't want Sonic to slow down for him it means: being together all the time, dating, living together etc.It's not like Sonic can't just run slower so she can catch up. Sonic doesn't mind running slower. The same way he doesn't mind using a car instead of running as long as he has fun. Tails has never been as fast as Sonic ever.
Would Shadow still be fast if his air shoes were somehow removed, or are the air shoes doing most of the work in terms of speed?
>>580880752there is no reason to use max speed with tailsheroes intro kill the idea tails can match his max
is nine faster than tails or do his mechadendrites slow him down too much?
>>580880371Super Shadic
>Tailsfags hoping we don't remember that Sonic routinely humiliates a character that uses turbines to fly faster than Sonic can run
>>580880863They aren't doing any until they are.
>>580880895He is a NEET so slower. He is also more fat than Tails, probably very chubby. Can't run for 5 minutes without needing to rest
>>580880734Tails can keep up with Sonic, there is no additional information about how slow Sonic needs to be for Tails to keep up. Sonic is fast and Tails is fast enough to keep up with him>>580880862>Tails has never been as fast as Sonic ever.Check out the games they're pretty cool
>>580880862The entire reason that Tails became Sonic's partner is because he was fast enough to keep up with him. There was zero reason for Sonic to slow down for Tails
>>580880752He does, you idiot.
There is subtext I think that Sonic is the fastest and the others keep up besides Shadow
>>580879805Didn't Sega of America get ghosted by Sonic Team on info about a new game being developed?
I guess Sonic just randomly let Tails fly his plane is Sky Chase because... Because
>Sonic is going at a brisk pace, for him at least>This random fox is keeping up with him while he's not trying to run at max speed.That's not so hard to understand, is it?
I just got confirmation that there have been many playtests, in house and out for the next Sonic game.They literally have something to playtest. We're seeing a new game around late 2026 to early 2027. This franchise is hecking saved!
>>580881169>there is no additional information about how slow Sonic needs to be for Tails to keep up.There is no additional information about the extent to which Tails can keep up with Sonic.We have seen, visually, when Tails has failed to keep up with Sonic, and those situations show Sonic moving much faster than he usually does so we know, based on what the games made by Sonic Team have shown us, there is a limit.
>>580881685Why wouldn't Sonic run at his max speed. Why would he limit himself
>>580881685It's the delusion of people who have lived 35 years with headcanons, we can't do much about it besides hoping for their mental recovery
>>580881271The description clearly paints it as Tails lagging significantly behind because Sonic has to take a moment to look back to make sure Tails is still keeping pace.So no.
>>580881930You can't be this dumb...
>>580881658Because he needs to defend it from the robots attacking it.
>>580881813>He actually thinks a new game is going to be announced 3~ months before release
>Why would Sonic jog casually most of the time instead of sprinting as hard as he can all the time?
>>580882016No? The manual just says Tails followed after Sonic, in fact it says that Sonic pretends to not give a shit about him. If Tails was actively significantly slower than Sonic there would be no reason for Sonic to bother with him in any capacity. And Tails got Sonic's trust during the adventure to the point where he let him fly his plane even though he could've reached Sky Fortress by himself
>>580881859>There is no additional information about the extent to which Tails can keep up with Sonic.Indeed there isn't. The official fact about the character is that he can keep up with Sonic, period.>>580882018Yeah, he isn't dumb at all
I think you guys are projecting modern stuff onto Classic SonicSonic was a tough delinquent. He left Amy as soon as he saved the day in CD. If someone wasn't worth it to him he just didn't care. Sonic was more serious. The Sonic 2 manual literally said that he let Tails do whatever he wanted after meeting him because he didn't care
>>580880371How Death Battle fans see Sonic
>>580882396>making shit up and twisting factsI mean you deny the words of Tails himself when it is inconvenient so why should I be shocked?
>>580882716>I think you guys are projecting modern stuff onto Classic SonicStage 3 - bargaining.
>>580882771And you deny the most basic facts about the character and official statements.
>>580882502If it's a fact, then why are we also shown evidence to the contrary in official media?At what point does "keep up with" become "no slower than"? Because if you are slower, by any amount, the person who is faster is going to increase the distance between themselves and you if the both of you are putting in the same amount of effort.What's the fucking ratio of effort to speed? Is Sonic's 25% just as fast as Tails' 30%?
It appears his superiority has led to some controversy.
>>580882949No, I contextualize them. You refuse to do so because it ruins your character laundering agenda.
>>580883023What I've been saying this whole thread is that Sonic and Tails' speeds are comparable. It's irrelevant wether Sonic is faster or not because Tails can keep up with him just fine
>>580883291Don't justify retarded bait arguments. If they fail to understand basic logic, it's their problem. Not ours.
>>580882716They're just making things up, Tails is fast enough to keep up with Sonic whether Sonic is being serious and somewhat detached or humorous and close>>580883023>why are we also shown evidence to the contrary in official media?There isn't
>>580883218Tails is fast, Tails was created with the purpose of following Sonic everywhere, Sonic only ever gave a fuck about Tails because of his speed, and then their friendship blossomed from that principle, so they could go on countless adventures together. This is all true
>>580883291You keep bringing up what Sonic Team have said while downplaying what they've actually shown.Why is it tell don't show instead of show don't tell?
>>580883503Nta but you haven't been a fan of this franchise for a while if you're new to this. Sonic Team contradicts themselves with every breath they take.
>>580883503>what they've actually shownSonic and Tails running together
>>580883503It is shown in the most blatantly obvious way in his debut game
Failed to understand Tails' character, failed to understand Sonic's character... Tsk tsk
Okay so if the developers don't know how fast Sonic is and every character seems to constantly rotate between being as fast as him and also slower than him then why the fuck does anyone give a shit about these literal cardboard cutouts. You people fucking confuse me. Is there lore in this franchise or not? Make up your fucking minds. You can't argue for a canon while simultaneously saying it doesn't matter anyway.Fuck you people are retarded. I feel like I'm talking to legit 10 year olds right now.
>>580883983I've been very consistent in my arguments
Finally, I am free. It can't hurt me anymore.
>>580883983>You people fucking confuse me. Is there lore in this franchise or notTheres tons of it but it’s contradictory and the current playbook is just “ignore most of it keep it simple so nobody spergs”, they still don’t dven have a definitive name for the Species for example>I feel like I'm talking to legit 10 year olds right now.It IS summer afterall…
>>580883983There is "lore" and they're not "cardboard cutouts". You just don't like that your headcanon isn't reflected in the actual material. Tails is fast enough to keep up with Sonic, that's all there is to it
>>580883983The only ones who say it doesn't matter are idwfags trying to justify ooc bullshit.
>>580883493>Sonic only ever gave a fuck about Tails because of his speed,That's a misread. It was less his speed and more the fact he was making the effort and doing a good job.
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>>580884536Someones upset
>>580884431Sonic didn't care about that
>>580883676They don't really do it that much compared to other devs really. A lot of Sonic fans just cant walk and chew bubblegum at the same time for some reason.
>>580883983Story/Gameplay separation. See also Xenoblade allowing you to fast travel anywhere even if it doesn't make sense.Sonic has super speed, Tails has helicopter speed, Knuckles has super strength, and Amy has Pepe Lepew chasing powers. This ain't complicated.
>>580884360>definitive name for the Species for exampleSonic characters aren't a species.Archieshit has corrupted your worldview
>>580846897If he vores Blaze, we can confirm he’s Chinese.
>>580826407>>noo sonic can't go around saving someone that needs him or feel sad or lose a few battlesThat's fine, the problem is that Elise is the most boring character ever.>noo blaze can't help another character or seal an immortal lava monster with her royal soulIt's pretty OOC without setting up a good reason, and there's literally no setup at all. And her sacrificing herself for some dude's time period in another dimension also makes no sense against her actual character motivation.>noo silver shouldn't need help to seal an immortal demon or learn something important from the character that was by his side from the start who has fire powersSo was she by his side from the start or just from the start of the game, because that's a huge difference. The game never makes up its mind about that. It treats them like they're lifelong best friends when logically they only just met very recently for some reason.
