Previous: >>580825325What is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculator https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
>sod 2 minus retail remix
Skyborne supremacy.
Oh manThis game + anime porn addiction is gonna not end well for me
classic temporary lost
>>580835398i don’t think that many people would play ogres, but it fits the world and the faction which has to count for something. you can’t just have every new race be a fucking elf
retoilet- for the good goy
>>580835398this art is a direct injection of concentrated SOVL into my brain and eyeballs.the perfect mix of grit, beauty, whimsy and mystery. absolute adventure-pilled.
Does someone have the era version of this? Please
Classic+ bros... we won
>>580835398nice troll butte
They somehow made it worse than I expected. Good job blizzard.
This looks... weird? I member it being guaranteed crits, I just want my PoM Pyro mage back.
>>580835524You can't make every race a fucking elf but you do have to have elves to begin with or else no one will play the game.once a sufficient amount of elven tits and ass exists and is playable then you have the latitude to add more chudcore beast races.
I hate how I can't play Classic for 7 weeks because it just feels like a waste of time
>>580835574desu i expected a lot less than theyre saying
No changes
>>580835574I expected nothing from them and they still managed to disappoint me.
kind of disgusting how fatrend turned every paladin spec into a godspec, and barely did anything to shaman
>>580835648Play some single player games from your steam backlog. I have a couple dozen
>>580835594thats the same spell it is in 1.12 they just made it 4 crits instead of 3
Are (You) going to>be a good paypiggy and pay for beta accessor>go in blind on November 4thor>not play this Retail- trash?
>>580835692The fat fuck from SoD is part of forever team? Oh nononono....
>>580835745I'll paypig but wait till November
>retail-The only thing that could make this look more underwhelming is copypasting current retoilet class designs onto this game. Don't give them any fucking ideas.
>>580835692>ret>god specuhhh i don't know about that!
>>580835594Hopefully we're not forced into fire again. I can't decide between Arcane Mage or Resto Druid.
>>580835754He's the lead dev.
>tfw you only get a +50 attack power green ring from rfcle sigh, forever bros.
>>580835668His comeback will be so kino
>>580835692I'll be awaiting your elemental shaman apology form, in triplicate
>huge part of the current playerbase is playing classic game versions like era and anniversary>purposefully sabotage those versions and funnel the players into your new retail lite version that doesn't appeal to those players at allwhat is the purpose of this?
>skelf>body type 2>femboy>male nameIt's gaming time.
>Priest healers bring PI>Shaman healers bring totems>Paladin healers bring blessings>Druid healers bring nothingKEK
>>580835831>implying the people playing those versions didn't spend years asking for Classic+lol
>>580835745I'm going to wait and see the panel later today and also the beta in streams before deciding if I want to play and buy a sub/the new race I'm not super impressed at the moment
home forever
>>580835643>once a sufficient amount of elven tits and ass existstranny coded safe horny retail elves don't count towards this
>>580835831>doesn't appeal to those players at allThen why did the WoW Forever announcement kill Classic?Seems like you might be wrong here bro
>>580835474>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmaatAjFX4Quesa did a good job summing up how I feelOptimistically pessimisticYou just can't count of nu-Blizz devs to pull throughI know it's a long honored Blizzard tradition to botch launchesBut this is kind of their last chance to bring people back into the foldAnd they couldn't even give us a shit load of races or a single new class out of the gateIt's repackaged retail for Classic playersMy best guess is they have a shit ton of easy content they can load in lined up to release monthly to keep people ready for the next update
>for pvp as a rogue its a big disadvantage not playing alliance>for pvp as a lock its a big disadvantage not playing horde
>>580835825They're still going to be oom and they removed the best PVP burst ability like the little pally cuck devs they are.
>>580835831what makes you say "huge"?
>>580835839zamn dark skin and pink hair is some serious goonkino.
>>580835831Era will always have players regardless. It's population ebbs and flows depending on how bored people are with current thing.Anni is doomed to die anyway. If it's anything like classic, TBC is going to be a ghost town and players will demand the already shortened phases to be even shorter. LK won't have the launch hype it did either and will be deader than it was after ICC released. This is destined regardless of Forever launch.
>>580835831>purposefully sabotage those versions and funnel the players>doesn't appeal to those players at allIt's funny how you contradict yourself in the same sentence kek
>incubus
>>580835921Hopefully there's some incentive in playing PvP without the ranking system. Haven't seen anything on the updated system yet.
new dungeons look piss easy as a tank player who can only keep threat on one mob in any given fight cleared
Reminder that inviting skelves into your group is a choice.
>search wow forever on youtube>set filter to "last day">takes 25 minutes of scrolling before I find a single critical video of them selling Skyborne for 30 dollars>its an account with like 10 subsBlizzbucks are so fucking unreal. Imagine paying for a race in a game from 2004, on top of sub cost, on top of cosmetic mtx.
I kind of want to play a mage but not have deep freeze is really discouraging
>>580835914>everyone will be making their own AI MMOs in the future>you could produce thousands of MMOs a day with AI>military-grade AII'm already checked out
>>580835745i already spent 300 on tbc boosts my wife wont let me pay for beta access
>>580835912>>58083599690% of wow players are addicted paypigs who will gobble up any slop that blizzard shits out into their trough
>>580836096I think it's time for you to accept that the playerbase likes it
BLIZZCONCHADSdo shamans have place-all-totems-at-once wotlk bar or do they operate on the dogshit nilla/tbc system?
>>580835853They bring motw, battle ResNice attempt at shitposting thoughbeit
>>580836075I'm already honing my sky elf racism. I'll instant kick blueberries, but the fair-skinned ones can stay.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFOR THE SKYBORN
>>580836158from the streamer clip i saw they had the wotlk totem bar and totem projection
>>580836075and it's the correct one, can't wait to tank on my male human warrior only inviting female skelves for every other group slot. Mandatory gear unequipping and /dance during mana breaks.
im still not sure if they're trying to reel in retoilets, and why they are doing so if that's indeed the case.
>incentive to play more stufffucking GOOD, the one spec andys need to die man
>>580836108start doing this, blizzcucktake the tendie pillregain your manhoodand your financial independence
>>580836184this.only invite skysissies into your groups if their characters look like normal high elves
>>580836096Not even a new race, just a blue skin on something that already exists
When blue elves speak, I listen
No one cares about PvP swarthy brownoid, and the sooner you accept that, the better.
They really got a lot of mileage out of those BE skeletons from 20 years ago.
Skyborne are so gay. I dont even care about lore too much but they seem so un-elven and skyrimified. Very shoehorned.
>>580836128>WE LOVE EATING SHIT AND PAYING 30 DOLLARS FOR IT
I wait for /ourchud/s opinion.
>>580836287>>580836184
>>580836361Yep. Mad?
>>580835648It was always a waste of time you and it's going to continue being a waste of time in 7 weeks
they dont care about us 'nillersthe blueberry oc elves are such a blatant slap in the face, screaming that they aren't making the game for 'nillers, but at a desperate attempt to get retailoids and chinks
>>580836386You know what I mean
>>580836342My friend who has never played wow before messaged me today about how hot she looked in the cinematic.I guess blizzard really knows how to get players.
>>580836329all they had to do was tweak the ear tips up and down on each new one
>>580836252How do you do this with a PC
>>580836217great success
>>580836324>NOOOOOO STOP INTERACTING WITH ME IN A MULTIPLAYER GAME>I HAVE TO SPEEDR- PINK PARSE MC AND MAKE A VIDEO FOR 100 VIEWSrope tranny
>>580836363i wonder how hard it was for him to avoid looking at any of this
>>580836480>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO LIKE GETTING GANKED WHILE TRYING TO TURN IN YOUR QUEST
Sex with Noria.
>>580836217gay
You don't understand. You HAVE TO let me kill you in front of that dungeon entrance.
>>580835398I was somewhat excited until I realized the economy will be once again completely raped due to rmt and bots I can't wait for the world to be completely pushed way due to boosting...
>>580836480That's nice swarthoid. Doesn't change the fact no one, and I mean absolutely no one, gives a singular shit about PvP except for brown monkeys who only participate in it when they have a massive advantage in the open world
>>580836363based salvdali China man
>every criticism post i see online just has people saying "just toggle it bro!"they toggled their drones on
>>580836513wdym quests? Might as well delete the world and sit in front of a rdf on login sis
WE'RE THE SKY-BORNTHIS BUG IS AIRBORNEWE'RE THE NEW PORNOUR KIND IS NEWBORN
>no shaman tank>no lock tank>no rogue tank>half assed pala tank>druid is fine i guessits gonna be warrior fest, it has always been a warrior fest
>>580836629>give players options so they can disable things they don't like>dumbass complains online and gets told to disable it>AAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE
>>580835745If they confirm lock tanks I will buy the best goy pack. But even if they do I won't touch beta much, I have other shit to play until launch.
>Roktar, go talk to her >Me not that kind of orc
>>580836584I enjoy occasionally ganking someone during leveling, but I have to agree that the only way people do "world pvp" is by having a party of 4-5 players go around a zone and gank people 5 on 1
>>580836104I didn’t watch the video but that’s a fair assessment based solely on your green text
will mages still be able to do the ZF graveyard farm for leveling?
>palagroid tanks mega nerfedLmao eat shit faggots. That's what you get for shitting up tbc with your "tank services I take all items faggotry"
>>580836158You have the totem bar with 3 Call of the ___ presets, along Totemic Projection and Totemic Recall. The only difference is that the call spells seem to have a cast time, likely to balance with the GCD of placing each totem individually
You WILL thank undead paladins for being the only thing holding the Horde back from being 99% blueberry elves
>>580836682>desperately look for a toggle that turns off the clashing art style store mounts>theres no toggleAIEEEEEEEEE
>>580836584>Doesn't change the fact no one, and I mean absolutely no one, gives a singular shit about PvPyour post-dilation 99 parse : 100 views, misery, begging for recognition, tranny hobby"lol I made this retard jump off a bridge" : 100K views, endless hilarity, true spirit of the game
>>580836682the option to toggle between different versions of what the game looks like means that everyone won't be seeing the same think which effectively means that the game will be less immersive
>>580836698I fully accept it, you have to be the nail sometimes to enjoy your turn as the hammer
>>580836807How are you getting less immersed by other people seeing something slightly different?
>>580836674Some of these are completely bullshit and should be baseline like the buff duration, no reagents and free casts after reviving'
>>5808366820% chance that all the new content they add moving forward will updated graphics, which will present you with a choice of toggling the modern character models on or playing a classic model character that clearly stands out from the rest of the world around it
>>580836807anon that doesnt make any fucking sense lol
>>580836915>>580836961>hey look at that guys armor he has the shoulders>"huh what? sorry i have transmog on"
>>580836158>>580836217>>580836479>>580836547placing the totems has a cast time tho like 2s
>>580836674>the more time you spend playing, the more your game turns into retail
>>580836786>Grief clips only uploaded by swarthy grifters and a comment section full of jajajajaja and broken englishSure showed hio
>>580836915>why arent you bowing down to this legendary knight in his epic armor and weaponry??>what do you mean he just looks like a regular lvl30 warrior?>he could be the king of stormwind! or maybe a titan!much immersion wow
>>580836807>pick what you want to see and what you dont want to see to have a better experience suited for yourself>this somehow means it will be less immersiveaight
>>580836786>Race to world first>MDI>Great pushAll millions of views>arena tournament >CricketsAgain swarthy, no one gives a shit about pvp
>>580836674Nothing too crazy besides the dedicated study just spawning free shit to make elemental air/water useless.
>>580837031I play retail and I promise you that is way more engaging than any retail system.
>>580837025That's a self-inflicted problem. You disabled the setting and are seeing something different because of it.
>>580837056>>580837025who cares what other players think?
>>580837025>hey look at that guys armor he has the shouldersthis isnt 2006 lil gup, nobody cares what someones wearing
>see people say there's a classic UI toggle>get excited>slowly realize that when they say "classic UI toggle" they mean pressing the classic preset layout in edit modethese are the fucking people you are arguing with
>>580837025>>580837056>implying this happens literally ever
dont like it? toggle it chudwe love transmog and real money cosmetics
>>580837112>Race to world first>MDI>Great push>All millions of viewsWho the fuck watches any of those besides maybe the final 5% hp pulls on the last boss in the RWF?
>>580837189you are playing with other people genius
>>580837205this but unironically
>>580836915>>580837110>how are you less immersed if you can fundamentally change the way the world around you looks by toggling an on/off button in your graphics menu
>hey look at that guys shoulders>hes got the exact same ones as me and literally everyone else because the difficulty in classic is a fucking joke they might as well give them away for free
They should fuck over botters by putting consumables on a vendor who you pay with currency you get from playing the game, like reals in sod>clear dungeon, get shekels to buy raid consooms with.
>>580837205>toggle trannymog off>get the feeling im playing with a tranny>toggle trannymog on to see if im rightkino minigame
blizzard internal document path forward map just leaked
>>580837320kek
>>580837198>dont be silly no one is going to run around naked
What's the first thing yall are going to toggle in the beta?
>>580836674Reagent Economy is kinda gay desu, I wouldn't mind a discount or something on removing them entirely is ridiculous.
>>580837320lmao
>>580837326>AI slopBro thought he was dropping the mic with this lmao
>>580837326need forest elf
>>580837226Millions of people.Meanwhile literally no one watches pvp.There's a reason every stream grifter like gookvix and chinkaboo stoped being pvp streamers. It tanked their numbers.
>>580837326velf mommy
>Official lore is that the Draenei killed the Skyborne elves when they crash landedApologize.
>>580837365the reagent economy is what it is because of pervasive bottingif they just fixed the issue of bot mafias controlling all the expensive reagents on every server, it could actually be a viable way to earn gold in game
>bro why did you roll need?>sorry i wanted for transmog lolhypeeeeee
>>580837402cooked his ass with that reply, bro
Turtletrannies & Dutchcucks status? Are they going to pay up to play Forever?
If you wonder why they added Smurf Elves on Forever, you just have to understand that the chink userbase absolutely hates playing "ugly" races. They want to play pretty elves and bunny girlsThe chinks like pic related demanded them on Forever, just like they forced Blizz to add Blood Elves to the Horde 20 years ago
>>580837365This is mazed retard mentality at work.Having to buy reagents, taking up bagspace adds nothing to the game. It's just a minor annoyance.If you're legit crying over the removal of reagents, you're actually fucked in the head.
>>580837402Blud cooked doe
>>580837549
>>580837627shitty paint art is better than ai slop
>>580837478Read before you speak and make a fool out of yourself again, shitdick. It's obviously talking about things like priest candles, for buffs
>>580837602This but with the idea system of gold, just remove it all together. It doesn't serve any purpose but to waste my time when all I want is to raid.
After looking at the warlock talents I have concluded that they are going to be the elder god busted broken-tier class that rapes anyone who looks in their general direction in PvPI also think the siphon racial for undead might have good synergy but overall Horde racials got decimated compared to Alliance so I'm thinking human lock for PvP and gnome for PvE
Will mounts be account wide?I assume so but I didn't see any confirmation.
>>580837458Holy based
>>580837549i want to kidnap her, paint her blue from head to toe and keep her locked in my basement until she admits horde races look cool
>>580837602I write "kinda gay" and you sperg out like this.
>>580837326Dune elf on my penis right this second
>>580837365These are capstone talents in the tree.You'd have to play the game a lot across mutliple character just to unlock it.
>>580837814>inb4 people have them all unlocked by the end of week 1
what will you be rolling brosmale undead arms warrior for me
>>580837814Okay that's *more* reasonable. I also assume there's various tiers to all these things that aren't being shown.
>>580837718That's nice swarthoid, but no one cares about PvP and even if they did, you'd still get raped by every melee except maybe palagroids.Also>I haven't seen any of the spell tooltips nor know their scaling, but I can confidently say that this spec is opLmao retarded monkey
>>580837882Female skyborne druid :3
i think they genuinely dont know how to make SD assets anymore, the new skin tones were just overlayed wholesale darkening the sclera and iris of the models too since theyre a part of the same texture file
>>580837882female skyborne priest
>>580837882I made a male human warlock when I was 11 as my first character.I will do the same thing again.
>>580837882male dwarf shaman
>why yes blizzard I will pay 30 dollarydoos for a coat of blue paint on a race that already exists and took 0 effort to toss in!>oh boy another 30 dollars to beta test for a month even though 90% of the content will just vanilla stuff? awesome!I think Blizzard has actually mindbroken any of you fags that defend this trash.Like they couldn't even be bothered to make a new race man. That's just so fucking lazy and greedy.I am going to make a guild that gangstalks, griefs, slaughters, undercuts, and spam whispers all blue elves.
>consecration DMG nerfed and only hits 4 targets Lmao eat shit
>>580837993skyborne can't be priests doe
What does he think of WoW Forever? Anyone know
>>580837718>Troll warlock>fear enemy>channel rapid regeneration and regain 50% of my HPNothing personnel
>>580837969It's obviously done poorly but I somewhat like it.
>>580837602shut up fag
>>580838019what about paladin
>>580837694no it's not
Debating if I should make my Human Unholy DK a Warrior or Warlock. Though a part of me really wants to play Hunter.
WoWF Fixing proposalsImmediate fix needs> remove Sky Elves from non-Chinese versions of the game, since they are added in for them specifically> replace them with High Elf / Goblin options in the future patches> keep Quel'thanas & Blood Elves out of both factions> Remove Orc Mages, Troll Warlocks> remove frostfire bolt from MagesPersonal flavour additions> import certain classic looking HD weapon & armour assets from retail to Forever - e.g. Headmaster's Command, Squire's Warhammer, Helm of the Fierce, Judgement armour set, heritage armour sets etc.> HD versions for racial mounts as well> naturally tie the SD/HD toggle option to both imports' visibility> Race-class specific quests to tweak spells - e.g. Undead Priests' Light spells are converted into Shadow healing spells akin to the Cult of Forgotten Shadows, Undead Paladins' spells into shadow/quasi-death knight spells> enable Shamans switch all water spells like Riptide to be aesthetically converted into 'Spirit' healing spells, while retaining the nature classification
>>580838080Nope
>>580838080no, looks like druid is the only healer for alliance + shaman for horde.
>>580837882troll mage perhaps
Test
>>580837882Skelf paladin bodytype 1 (female)
>>580838127then what is a cute healbot gal supposed to play...
>>580838119kill all blizzard employees involved, revive turtle wowsuddenly a better product
>>580837664heh, brown
>>580838119what you got against orc mages, plenty of them in blackrock spire in 'nilla
>>580837878they will have speed leveling and character boosting tactics ready on the second week of the beta
>>580838189turtle sucked though
>>580838183I'm sure you'll think of something
>>580838189LMAO
>>580838252>T. Blizzard employee
>>580838119>Race-class specific quests to tweak spells - e.g. Undead Priests' Light spells are converted into Shadow healing spells akin to the Cult of Forgotten Shadows, Undead Paladins' spells into shadow/quasi-death knight spellsThe one time blizzard made a quest to change spell color was in MOP and they fired the guy that made it.They're never doing it again.
>undead paladin>dwarf shaman>gnome priest>human hunterall reasonable lore-friendly race class combos that feel like they belong in the game setting>orc mage>troll warlockwhat the actual fuck
>>580838301this is good bait
>>580837882Male Nelf priest
>>580838183retail
>>580838274I need to worship that ass
>>580838194italian
>>580837882Tempted for a troll hunter, even better if they added the amani skin: It was my very first character.I did always played Warlock in every single iteration of WoW tho. So a Orc Warlock is the second choice
>>580837549Why is Ploos even going to China? They have titanforged dogshit to play
>>580838284t. shenna
I'm honestly torn between throwing another five years of my life at this game and just wiping my computer and installing Linux. I know Linux can also play WOW but I'll be a lot less likely to jump through those hoops. I'm never going to get my ideal starved femboy body if I keep sitting all day.
>>580838301If trolls can be mages why can't orcs?If anything orc mage makes more sense than troll mageTroll warlock is a bit weird but oh well
>>580838252true
It's crazy that they release it the day after the us midterms, it will be perfect for all the magaturds that seek escapism after dondaddy get mogged
>>580837882Can't really decide. Currently leaning between male orc shaman, fem UD mage/Spriest/warlock.Maybe I should make things easy and just go gooner mode, fem nelf huntard.
>>580838410just play 2 months through the holidays and quit after new years like most normal people
>>580838415>why cant germans be samurais
i just boughted the epic edition
im honestly happy with everything they announced, except blue elves.they said at blizzcon they are open to feedback so, can we start with that
>>580838410>jump through those hoopsYou can just add the Battle.net Launcher as a non-Steam game to Steam. What hoops?
Not inviting troon bait blue elves into my groups.Go play retail with your fellow axe wound mutants.
>Happy?
>>580838410bro youre already too old to be a femboy
>>580838410just like any other blizzard product this will have content for max 2 months, then you'll be raidlogging
>>580838480They're not going to remove years of work and already paid for prepurchases because little chuddie can't handle a little retail flavor in his game.
>>580837882Male UD paladinkino class/race combo
>>580835643Hopefully they’ll add high elves and blood elves next
>>580838415trolls used to be kangz and quanz thousands of years ago, so supposedly they figured out arcane magic parallel to the elvesorcs are mudhut aliens who like fighting and worshiping spirits. it makes no sense for them to be pouring over old scrolls and learning spells and shit
>you no longer spend money to learn spells at the trainer
>>580838596Good.
>>580838501That's a hoop. I've never had steam on a linux install. I don't even have a steam account because I only play shitcraft. I've never played wow on linux so I don't know how it'll play, where my adddon folder will be located, etc. All kinds of random tedium that might make me say "eh I'll just go talk shit on /vg/ instead"
>>580838410I literally have nothing else in my life that can keep my attention, I don't really like watching movies, reading books is cool once in a while but there's nothing that can keep my day to day attention. It's either playing wow or endlessly doom scrolling this shithole site.
>>580838196>>580838415Orc mages didn't make any sense even when they were introduced in Cata. Horde is a collection of more shamanistic than magic driven societies, minus Undead & Belves later.You might as well just remove class restrictions, if every race-class combination is just about 'having learning from other races' a class identity.
>>580838549I would say it's very likely they get added at some point, probably when they made a patch to fill out the quel thalas area of the map that was unused in vanilla.
>>580838596>no more getting picked up by a broke ass healer with rank 1 rezbig if true
>>580838596Spells costing was pretty gay desu, but do you still visit trainer for free teaching or do you just automatically get access to new spells/ranks on the fly when you level up?
Based on these comments I keep seeing, its as if the classic playerbase is quite young, and/or just fucking stupid.The game is full of pop culture references, since Vanilla launch.
>>580838596hey man, we don't wanna make people think about what spells they need to prioritize buying during leveling.everyone needs to have everything unlocked as soon as possible so they can blast through the content as fast as possible without thinking.the world is the main character btw *wink*
>>580838639also if it puts a bunch of ugly .steam dotfiles in my home directory I will literally never install it.
>>580838651having learned*
>>580838718post the dance
>>580838651retard
The game is full of poop culture references, since Vanilla launch.
Is she coming back?
>>580835981> Era will always have players regardless.Yeah, all 500 of them lol
>>580837430>Millions of people.bots + last retoilet raid barely pulls a quarter million in views>Meanwhile literally no one watches pvp.false>gookvix and chinkaboo stoped being pvp streamerssavvix's most viewed vids in the last 2 years are all pvpcope dilate rope in that order pve tranny
>>580838787I hope so. /wowfg/ needs our queen back.
>>580838528Not too old for the body though. I just need to starve myself and stop pancaking my ass by sitting all day.who am i kidding i'll just keep playing
>>580838787>there are actual grown men who simp for this obnoxious makeup-caked arab midgetI know they're mostly indians, but still
>>580838704No idea so conjecture time. They said they want to be careful with qol additions so most likely still have to learn from a trainer. And if they are removing learning costs can only assume gold will be a lot harder to farm or there will be other mandatory gold sinks, because training fees are basically nothing if looting every mob and selling the trash.
>>580838809>savvix's most viewed vidsbotsSee how easy that is?
>>580835547Anyone?
>>580838787Thank God I don't play an NA and have to deal with this crowd.
>>580838758Peanut Butter Jelly Time
>>580838596In a blizzcon pre alpha release? Shocking
>>580838840Why can't you starve while you play?If anything it would be easier?
>>580838859to lie? yea you tell yourself that you're a woman after all
>>580836096>noooo why is no one else seething about them adding hot elf bitches to the game???? Why aren’t they shilling ogres instead????You live in a fantasy world, irl.
>>580835668I cant wait for this based retard to retvrn for fash vnd freshy.
>>580838894They said they're open to feedback. People need to be as obnoxiously loud about stuff like this as possible. There's a slim chance they'll reverse course on some of this anti-vanilla bullshit masquerading as "quality of life".
>>580838906both claims are equally unsubstantiated
>>580838793More than the "most poppin" pservers at least kek
skyborne priest caged sissy
>#nochanges guy opens box labeled "Changes">gets madThis is basically 90% of doomposters rn. They have no real thoughts, no real critique, it's just virtue signaling. How do I know? They literally haven't played the game.
>>580835524>blizzard decides to make classic+ amidst people being disgruntled with retail, mainly retail's story>one of the biggest gripes is world of windrunner/elfcraft, elves are shoved into the plot where they barely even make sense if at all>what is their first addition? OC donutsteel blood elf recolors>they appear disconnected from the actual blood elves which may indicate quel'thalas and more elves later onI'm convinced this is actually a spite move. Like they're pissed people would rather play classic+ than retail.
>>580838960too late for any changesall they can do it fix the worst bugs before launch
we are NOT going back to era without big dali
>>580838964the poors over at /wpsg/ are gonna FREAK when they read this
>>580838883
Reminder F R E S H 2028. /wowcg/ will be remade great again!
Alliance racials might be a little overtuned.
>>580838960Is that a confirmed QOL change, or is it just making it simple for gay and retarded furry streamers like Soda to test all the classes without thinking about gold?
>turning off new models and new animations the second i load inthank god for the toggle
>>580835398>decide to give players what they want by giving them back classic without all the changes and systems that diluted the game and turned it into retail>immediately add blood elves (blue)>immediately add new race/class combos>immediately add dungeon finder>immediately add quest markers>immediately add transmog>immediately add cheevo farming>immediately add an accountwide borrowed power system>you will pay 60$ again for this lol lmao even
>>580839045Fair point, don't know
Best race for warlock for PvP?I has to be human right? I think human is bis for every class but I don’t want to roll ally because of WOTF. Orc stun racial got nerfed hardWotf does not grant immunity anymore Troll racial looks op especially for lock, 50% max hp regen while in combat seems broken especially on SL/SL lock
>>580839008bait
>>580839009elfcraft is nowhere near the most significant problem with retail story. all the cosmic horseshit is the issue there.idgaf if they throw in some eye candy elves as long as they don't have extensive embarrassing cutscenes where they spew therapy speak at each other.
>>580839070The game has no box fee. Are you stupid? My bad I just re-read your post, and yeah, you are.Is this the best rhetoric anti-forever chuds have?
>>580839080gnome. you get +10% on 3 dots
>>580838960Nigga they aren't doing any drastic changes in 7 weeks. You might influence future patches at best.
>>580839050>toggle does nothing for skyborneso much for an option, you either play with retail graphics or enjoy obnoxious eyesores
>>580839031Assuming the thirdies over there can read English >>580839045The latter most likely. Like a PTR build where everything is accessible just to test the latest raid.
>>580839080>50% max hp regen while in combat seems brokenYou're going to be stacking spirit for 20 hp5?
>>580839009>I'm convinced this is actually a spite move. Like they're pissed people would rather play classic+ than retail.I disagree.If it was a spite move they'd make the elves ugly like they did in the Midnight cinematic
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content aloneWoah... can't wait to kill 15 boar and then do another quest where I talk to 2 NPCs in the same city... blizzard has done it again bros...
>>580839123You would have a point if we didn't see how quickly they can implement changes in SoD. They can absolutely make changes in 7 weeks.
>>580839050>telling everyone I'm turning off new models and new animations the second I load in>but i secretly dont because i secretly like the new models with old animations
>>580839070KEK blizzdrones are truly stupid
>>580838984skyborne cannot be a priest
Do we know all the priest racial spells yet?
>>580839070Quest markers are already a thing in most private servers tho
Skyborne = AI slop? Mm more floating islands and colorful elves, feels like something gpt4 cooked up?its already pretty clear blizzard is heavily reliant on AI tooling now, which is good because they might be able to actually push slop faster, but skyslop feels bad manoh and captchas on 4chan SUCKS 2026 what the fuck??? im never posting again fucking aids
What's with this idea that retail isn't financially successful? You can hate it all you want, like thats fine, but lying about shit is just loser behavior.
>>580839041The hell is a "bane" effect?
>>580839207nah they are bouncy and faggy as helltaurens being the worst offenders
>>580839267Your meds, schizo?
>>580839242do you look like that?
>>580839070Man, I am so tired of the woke crap and ruining of Warcraft, if anyone supports this they are just an addict without integrity.
>>580839207Based and same except I just tell people I like the new models.The bouncy animations are the bad part of the retail models, some of the faces aren't great either but I can deal with it. I also like the new retail UI, and I have literally never played any legit wow past wotlk in my life. I have never seen or used it before.
>>580839293Warlock thing
>>580839293Curse of agony is a bane.It's just so locks can use a debuff curse and a dot curse i think
>>580839267
>>580839267bye faggot
>>580839293different name for a curse, in cataclysm they split warlock curses into curses and banes as you can have one of each on a target, the damaging ones became banes (like agony and doom) while the ones with effects remained curses (like elements and weakness).
SoD was great and so was the Team behind it.Forever is a high point in the Blizzard lows from the past decade.
>>580837882Female skelf shaman
>>580839293warlocks were cucked and never allowed to cast curse of agony so they made that a bane and left ele the curse
>>580839207>but i secretly dont because i secretly like the new models with old animationsCan you use new models with old running animations?I dislike the new models because they run so weird, if they fixed that it'd be great.
>>580839402You've only played one of those.
>skyborne is paywalled>skyborne has no priest or paladin (the only "cute" healers that fembots are willing to play)>only shaman on horde, giving fembots who mostly play alliance even less healing option>racials are boring and shit because blizzard is afraid of p2w accusationsIs anyone actually going to pay for these? They seem to just suck lmao
>>580839408You will get bullied and split
>>580839225dead on arrival
>>580839267Their starting zone feels so retoilet it's not even funny.>used to live in harmony and peace, but now all the ancient wards are failing and spirits are disappearing so they are forced to leave their homeThat's literally every new retoilet race.
>>580839242>all these CGI cinematics for d5/sc/wowfreally had me thinking Blizzard is nothing but a nostalgia hype machine with mediocre products then immediately dangle something new to get excited about again
>We will make achieving your first mount feel great again >Already selling mounts HAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHHA HAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAH
>>580839204It doesn't sound as great when you realise it's 10 quests per dungeon, so 100 quests there (100 horde 100 alliance). 100 odd quests (50 horde 50 alliance) per new zone, so 400 there. There's 600 quests already. Another 200 probably just random shit, realistically 200 proper quests (100 horde 100 alliance) spread across all the existing zones.
>>580839417i thought that whole segment with the dwarf side by side was to show that they have removed the bounciness and replicated the old animations with new models. but maybe i misinterpreted the whole con was a kind of confusing shitshow
>>580838704no you learn them immediately upon levelling up
>>580839436wtf are you talking about? resto druid is the most foid coded class and spec in the entire game.
surely they will present skyborn tranny elves toggle at todays deep dive :)
>>580839238Not all of them.Seems they're removing the shared priest racials and trying to give everyone two unique spells while making FW and DP baseline.
>>580839402The old Blizzard devs enjoyed the smell of their own farts too much.
>>580839293its a big effect
>>580839402for all the faults that SoD had, it was somewhat grounded in the aesthetic feeling of classic wowfrom the gameplay I've seen and the addition of skytrannies, this is gonna have none of the classic wow charm, which is what makes people actually like classic
>>580839448If I point out 5 classic races whose stories start similarly, will you retract your post?
>>580839417yea
>>580835692>fire nova is a spell not a totem now>8sec stormstrike>maelstorm>50% mana regen at all times
>>580839520>it was somewhat grounded in the aesthetic feeling of classic wowHAHAHAHAHA
>>580839462WoW Forever more like WoW Cashcow forever lmao, they are actually selling a foid retail version for classic andys
>>580838000With a job, you can buy anything. Poorfag.
>>580839565What is "foid"/female about any of this?
>>580839545they need to bring this animation/model toggle to retail
>>580839602or with a mother who loves and dotes on you
>>580839548>>50% mana regen at all timesCan't wait to stack spirit on my enhance shaman.
>>580839545God I hope they add that to retail.Although it seems like retail might be finished at this point so who knows
>>580839565>foid retail version for classic andys yup this describes wow forever pretty much
>>580839602>giving money to blizzard over a dogshit product just because you have money to waste
>>580839513what is the cd on the gnome guardian spirit
>>580839538Ok name 5 or fuck off.
>>580839462>>580839565>>580839663It's funny how all of these posts are 90 seconds apart
>>580839436>Is anyone actually going to pay for these?yes anonthousands of people will pay for them because even if they aren't super in love with the new race, they'll give 30$ just out of curiosity so they can check out how the new starting zone looksblizzard could put up dogshit in a box on their webstore and sell it for 30$ and people would be buying it
>>580835692prot pala is dogshit
>>580839676Just admit you are a poorfags NEET. 13 bucks every month is nothing
>>580839661>retail finishednah whole point of this is to operate it like poe1/poe2 so your players bounce back and forth between content patches
>>580839494Seems like you have brain damage as you just picked the least played class in the game. Priests and Women go hand in hand in literally every single adventure story, rpg, vidya game, movie, book, etc since the dawn of time. Literally never once have I met a druid who is a woman, it's always a furfag tranny or a depressed middle aged dude who just wants to play a bear.
>>580839513>ten minute CD shitty life tapor>fucking guardian spiritlol
>>580836674I can't wait to get Talented for all of my Alts that I'm gonna get addicted on leveling.
ive decided i will 1. stop playing tbc anniversary immediately it's dead 2. install linux 3. only play wow forever if it's dead simple to install and works the very first time i try it. otherwise i'm cock in my mouth maxxing and im going to dedicate myself to cocaine and being a cumslave
>>580839694Retoilet cucks are full on doomspiraling in their thread, most of them are convinced that retoilet is done for to be replaced by forever.The shitposters here are probably just some of the more disgruntled retoliet cucks trying to soothe their asspain.
>>580838883Uhh no you don’t get it, that’s actually a based pop culture reference!!!1
>>580839803I think it really do be like this
>choose between 4 styles pvp, pve, rp, hardcore >pvp will be a toggle ????????
why do the devs hate classic wow players so much. they never just do the obvious thing and always have to take a retail approach
>>580839785Proton makes that shit super easy, it's not a real barrier anymorebut good luck fixing the other random issues
>>580839737I'd rather toss 13$ out of my window than give them to a company that hates me
>>580839842They're trolling you.All servers are PvE, choosing PVP just toggles it on for YOU only.
i'd actually be more excited for this if they outright removed skyborne and replaced them with nothing a gesture of goodwill
>>580839845its a money making company not a good game making company
>>580839737>wasting 150$ a year + 30$ tip on a dogshit game instead of just putting it in investments/retirement
The moment I saw pvp is toggable I lost all interest, not giving them any money whatsoever.
>>580839009>spite the players>by adding hot elf womenOh yeah, I’m absolutely livid.
>>580839845THE GAME ISN'T FOR YOU ANYMORE, GRANDPAJUST GO DIE ALREADY AND LEAVE WOW TO THE TRANNIES, KEKS AND WOMEN WHO LOVE COLLECTING PETS AND DECORATING THEIR IN-GAME HOUSES
How is he going to handle retail's demise?
>>580839895one new made up pretty race every year 100%easy 30$
>>580839685Tauren, Nelf, Dwarf, Orc, and Troll all have a story where they're currently being invaded, or have been invaded and pushed back. We literally have Kul Tirans in Durotar.
Can't even believe I'm saying this but I might unironically play a cow this time. These racials look nuts.
>>580839981>one new made up pretty raceyou say that like that isn't every race in the game
>>580839880>No ganking around the world This fucking sucks
>>580839880so they aren't different servers? what the fuck is even the point
>>580839070Nigger if you want to play no changes era that’s there to play. The entire purpose of classic+ is to change things.
>>580839932>adding hot elf womenadding the same exact elf women but with a color slider adjustment>spite the playerscorrect, high elves was the correct choice and they still fucked it up
>>580839932bro, just stop watching porn and go have sex. it's not that hard and once you do it, you'll be able to enjoy the world without viewing everything through the lense of sexuality
>>580839880this cant be trueby talos this cant be happening
Why do you think blizz didn't add housing to Forever?Did it flop on retail?
>>580840027playing tauren optimally sound like pure cancerhave to keep moving constantly to not drop your movement speed
>>580839517for you
>>580840061>The entire purpose of classic+ is to change things.No its to expand Classic while keeping all its core features. Crossfaction races, trasmog, optional pvp and LFG are all retail trash features that dont belong there
Does this work per dot tick?
>>580840134>he's to inept to be constantly pressing a-d while talking to npcs
>>580840059Yes it's all a pve server with toggables, it's not like in the past where there were actual rp/pve/pvp servers and you could pick your style of community/life in the game
>>580840151>expandSo change. Thanks for playing.
>>580839880no way
>>580840114>want this candle? time to farm 10 year old content with Q system on a 2 week rotation instead of a one time unlock and buy as many as you want afterit flopped badly
>>580840176unlikely
>>580839446Nigger more than 50% of horde players will be fem skelfs.
>>580840027I only now noticed that Endurance has been buffed. !% hit chance is good, ngl.
>>580839975you underestimate his shilling and interest morphing techniques he's hyped for retail 2! hammers up!
>>580840184>finally there is a reason to get a wireless keyboardnot dropping that speed buff when I have to go take a shit
>>580840008NONE of those are in anyway similar to skyelf retoilet starting story. Are you a bot?
>retail wow
>>580835398so is there gold buying in this?
>>580840191Yes. New zones to explore new enemies, new dungeons/raids, maybe new professions/spells and sometimes new lore-friendly races.That all the "changes" vanillafags wants in their vanilla+ experience
>>580840295Obviously. It wouldn't be WoW without it.
>>580839676Yeah that’s right, poorfag.
>>580840190so this is what they meant that this version is "friendly and family welcoming" lol yeah this is a low effort project to cash in some retards
>>580840216I remember being 5 playing Club Penguin and trying to make my igloo look cool.Wonder why blizz just didn't copy that.
>>580840027These look like the best Racials for Hunter for sure.
>>580840295tokens ofc
>>580840356club penguin was ahead of its time...too ahead...
>>580839656For me, it will be spiritmaxxing Troll warrior with>passive regeneration>rapid regeneration>5 legacy points in the talent that gives you 1% (5%) HP when you kill a mob>well fed>comfy stock of bandagesI'm fucking invincible, mon
how did Blizzard fuck this up? it was supposed to be an easy job
>>580840367How?
>>580840190>Yes it's all a pve server with toggablesWhat?How would Hardcore even work like that?Are you sure it's not just for the demo?
So when is the community (streamers and plebbit) going to turn on wowf? I doubt It's going to be anywhere before the launch, maybe two-four months into launch?
>>580840432They didn't
>>580840176I bet there is a long ass internal cooldown on that shit
>>580840432>how do we give the very minimum to what the players need while adding as many ways to make as much money as we can
>>580840446they showcased a roadmap exactly to bait streamers and players just hear their words "it will be a slow game with fast updates at the beginning"
https://youtu.be/tH2w6Oxx0kQ?list=RDtH2w6Oxx0kQ&t=3
>>580840446They won't
blue elves are KOS btw
>>580840396I used to play Pirates of the Caribbean Online and they had sailing in that game with naval battles and it was so fun.Really disappointed blizz didn't add that in BFA since both factions were known for their boats.
>>580840446whenever the checks clear
>>580840457>just copy this and that from bootleg private servers>lets also half-ass our talent reworks>okay now we make a neutral sky elf race thats $30
>>580840434Sorry, I meant PvP, but still. + 1% hit chance is really good.
>all that Lordaeron datamined stuff>all those Lordaeron logos all over blizzcon and merch>arthas arpg not announced>classic+ is just retail- and undercity still existsSo what the fuck was that all about?
>>580835398beta hype beta hype beta hype
is forever for me if i don't want to talk to people
>>580840432just look at who works there now
>>580840556>He dosent know players can choose to toggle of PvP mode in Forever
>>580839070what a bunch of insane cunts
>>580840545tbcbros...mopbros...
>>580836682Personally I think its just a waste of dev time. It might not be super demanding in terms of work load but it just seems completely unnecessary to have especially because a majority of players will likely have transmog permanently toggled off. It was obviously done just to sell transmog sets in the shop
>>580840593warcraft 3 obv
>>580839070just toggle it off...
>>580840446looking at the reddit and forums it already has, the streamers are hesitant though because they're being given money, it's basically just paid shills holding back an immense tide of negativity lmao
>>580840651>a majority of players will likely have transmog permanently toggled offBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>580840598>paid demo hype
Wait WOW FOREVER WILL HAVE DUNGEON FINDER?? LMFAOOOOOOOOO
someone just tell mejust please tell mewhy it's okay to lock an entire playable race behind a paywallnot even free mmos do that
>>580840656>a campaign centered around sylvanas raping lordaeron and replacing all the banners with her ownHmmm
>>580840027>play melee class>weigh down my W key>?????>profit
>>580840732based if true
List how they could have made it even worse, I will start:>new paid class
>>580840732mount at lvl20 tooliterally everything from retail will be in forever, its the same target audience
the talent trees look eerily similar to cata talentsresto druid and destro warlock are almost identical
>>580840432It's day 1 of even knowing anything about this
>>580840761Would you rather buy 1 race every year for 30 bucks (with the option to ignore it entirely) or would you rather everyone be riding around on flashy rainbow unicorns with sparkly store transmog?I'd take the former over the latter. Though skyborne just wasn't it. Fucking chinks demanding barbie fapbait and Blizzard's pathological denial of high elves' existence caused this.
>>580840880IT'S OVER AND WE'RE DOOMED!!! FOREVER!!
>>580840656Booknerds is the new WC3 campaign close to actual lore or nu-blizzard fanfic?
I wonder if what they are selling now is a limited edition or something.Do you think these will eventually go away hence giving way to full FOMO?
>the mask slipped
>>580840807>mount at lvl20 toois this confirmed?that would be really gay if they did that
>>580840905you get both, you get both.
>>580840947No, he's just spamming the thread with things he made up and hoping people believe it
>>580840947No. You know better than that. Someone's just sitting here spamming misinformation with no source on cooldown to troll.
>>580840947they are already selling mounts lil bro
>>580840651transmog was actually one of the major features of turtle wow, and being able to transmog gear while being limited to the wow classic palette felt good and you could make some nice sets that fit inside the game's worldof course blizzard will completely ruin the initial appeal of this by selling garish glowshit costumes on the shop that don't match the rest of the game's gear
>>580835745I paypigged out of stupidity yesterday and now I realize I spent $90 aud for worse elves and beta access.Lame.
>>580837882Currently torn between lock or hunter. Not sure what faction yet
Are you forced to choose a first and last name?Why?
>>580841008Can you prove that it is not misinformation? otherwise you're the one giving misinformation.
>>580841013*toggles off your transmog and your paypiggy cosmetics become worthless*How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>580840947Retail players are doing everything they can to make people not want to play Forever so they can be stuck in the maze.
>>580840928Pure fanfic. Naxxaramas even shows up in the campaign despite Kel'Thuzad brought it from Northrend only in late vanilla
>it's over
It's over, It's so fucking over... for all of us... there is no hope left... but oblivion uuughhhssshh...
>>580841084That's not how the burden of proof works.
>>580841091that's fine it's a healthy middle ground solution to the issue that ascension also did but there will probably also be cosmetics like angel wings and stuff that you won't be able to toggle off, and of course you can't toggle off an entire race of paypiggy elves
>>580841091>just toggle off store mounts bro
>>580841072gonna make a human warrior named john stormwind
>>580841091works on my machine
>>580841013>transmog was actually one of the major features of turtle wowAnd they forced you to look at trannies dressup fantasy.Based blizzard gives you the choice.
Some people are very adamant that certain inclusions to WoW Forever don't fit and are too retail. Hypothetically lets say TBC never happened and Blizzard kept the game at 60 forever. In this hypothetical lets say we are in early 2007 and Blizzard introduced some things that you had and make you think WoW Forever is actually retail minus. Most people back in 2007 would have very much enjoyed some of these things >>580839070 The bigger point here is just because its synonymous with retail doesn't automatically make it terrible or bake it this antithesis to classic.
POST THE DISCORD LINK LFG!!!!!
>players want classic +>heres retail - insteadhahahaha. The amount of fucking trannys excited about this is a joke. Nu race models??? Lmao
>copy the homeless tents from turtlewow>add buffs to them depending on the people joining you having professionshope you enjoy your mandatory preraid 5 minute "sitting near a fire camp in silence" kino
>>580841170Turtle had store mounts AND paywalls on alternative racial skins
>>580841072xXSasukeXx xXUchihaXx
>>580841234bro you're ESL...
Is lvling a Priest gonna be faster by wanding (lame) or actually casting Holy spells?
>>580841198I'm gonna play dressup with my female human healslut paladin :3there's NOTHING you can do to stop meeee~ xoxo
>condition players to classic for some years >release """new""" retailslop + classic >cash in eaaaaaaasy job lmao
>>580836674no reagents is fucking bullshit and will remove a lot of the way players interface with the gameI hate the regen after kills too, will completely kill the pace. They said that convenience ruins community but then do shit like this.
I need someone to heal me, who is jobless and friendless
>>580836108>grown ass man with a wife can't either tell her to shut the fuck up because it's your own damn money OR find a way to scrounge up 60 dollars and go get a visa gift card at walmart to buy itHow fucking pathetic are you? I could get 60 dollars in a day as a 13 year old, nearly 20 years ago.
>>580841198if you think everyone was running around wearing programming socks, you didn't play turtle anon
>>580841295>turns trannymog offI don't care.
>>580839080>I has to be human right? I think human is bis for every class but I don’t want to roll ally because of WOTFI'm have this same issue. I want to play human but playing a lock on alliance sucks before something like 1 in 3 players on horde will be undead. Also human might get nerfed before the game actually comes out. Still not sure what to do and am even considering playing something like mage instead but not having Deep Freeze really sucks.
>>580841091store mounts and the new elves don't have a 'classic' look to them I bet It's the same with a lot of new mob models and zones
>>580841274and it was a bootleg private server that you could play for $0.00
>Angry TomeLmaooooo nice classic feel there forever keks
>>580841303>I could get 60 dollars in a day as a 13 year old, nearly 20 years ago.maybe he doesn't wanna be selling nudes to gay pedophiles on the internet
Tauren warriors will be able to use totem poles as weapons, right...right
>>580841274turtle was dogshit ass
>>580841262This will be unironically kino on RP realms
chances of this and osrs being the only 2 MMOs left when everyone has moved on from the genre?
Is that... Is that something NEW in my classic PLUS? New maps? New dungeons? New models?NOOOOOOOOOOOO SHENNA CROGGE DUTCH SAVE ME WITH YOUR ASSETS FROM VANILLA AAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHERE ARE MY REHASHED MOBS AND COPY PASTED MAPS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>580841296This desu desu desu it was written all over the walls.
>>580841303>How fucking pathetic are you?He spend $300 on fucking tbc dude, that's all you need to know.
>>580841368thats so quirky I love it xisters!
>>580840802>new paid race oh wait
>>580841262pre-raid flirting, post-raid hookup (irl)
>>580837882skelf ele shammy even though I'd really prefer to be alliance
>>580841170Am I the only one that doesn't care about store mounts? Mostly because they look terrible, going all the way back to the OG store mount the celestial steed.The ONLY mount I ever want is a plain unarmored horse, simple as.
>>580841415GW3
Anyone know if the elite mobs will have the old school dragons on them or are they the thin ones on retail?
>>580841072Worgen Backwards (black elf or human)Cute Funny (gnome priest)We Wuz (troll)
>>580841525is that even an MMO? could be bigger warframe for all we know
>>580841512This but with lvl boosts and selling gear, I mean I don't care about paying for that shit so why do I care, lol?
>>580841560Modern wow is just like warframe though, some themepark garbage, so will be forever
What is he thinking in heaven
BIMBODOREI SIS, WE ARE SO BACK
isn't it crazy that they kind of just cannibalized the tbc servers in the middle of bt phase like lmao kind of fucked how people dumped tons of hours into servers that are going to die overnight now
>"nobody knows what classic+ is supposed to be.">shows streamers saying the exact same thing
>all those low iq people who said shit like 'I don't want to commit to classic/sod because I don't know what's going to happen to the servers'>THIS is the result>retarded blizzard literally called it Forever wowblizzard are so retarded
MOGSMOUNTSCHEEVOS, BUT I'M A CLASSIC GUY!
>>580841368whats with the retail UI?
>>580841262Yeah, this sounds like an awesome idea on paper, but in practice it was fucking horrid. The stormwind gate turned into a fucking homeless encampment. It was like walking through San Francisco every time I wanted to go to the capital.
>>580841541black male tauren called Elf Rape
>from day one there is going to be new random island on the mapthe world map is going to look like retail in four years>>580841512two problems, they look out of place and they reduce to value of actual epic mounts that take effort to achievesecond issue is its pay to win because its a free mountbut people wont care about it because you can already buy gold with wow totkens anyway
>>580841295Based. I'm finna do the same with my femskelf
>mfw realizing I hate modern internet discourse more than I hate nu-Blizzard (which I hate a lot)You know, I'm thinking I can live with going into a new WoW experience with minimal expectations, without needing to eat, breathe, and sleep doomposting for the next two months.
>>580841609very hot and sexy slut
>>580841391You could already do this with toys in retail
we were robbed
>>580841281>eastern euro retard calling anyone ESL
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!
>>580841620>he fell for the anniversary griftlmaojust keep buying new collector editions every other year bozo
>>580841620It was going to die anyway, the sooner the better.>>580841626>blizzard are so retardedSurely.
>>580841669Spoken like a true blizzdrone
>>580841652>second issue is its pay to win because its a free mountthey are definitely going to change this to the TBC system where riding training is expensive and the mount is cheap, so this point doesn't hold up.
>>580841512The only store mount I ever liked was the red draenor/gorgrond themed silithid. That little bug was great and I got it as a birthday gift.
>>580841274which were all lore friendly and Turtle was FREE btw random hobos from random corners of the planet could maintain this game's lore integrity so why can't liberals from California do it??? strange so strange
I just find it amazing how little blizzard cares about their playerbase and the playerbase still sucks it.
>>580841652I still can't believe they turned thousand needles into a dog cock
>>580841708>>eastern euro retardprove it
>>580841129Pretty sure naxx was in plaguelands long before WoW launch lorewise. Raid was added in late vanilla.
are you threatening me?AAAAAAAAA
>>580841740>NOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE A BITTER CUNT ALL THE TIME!!!!
>change 99% of everything to retail>"oh but we made mobs/bosses in dungeons arbitrarily immune to things like bleeds or certain schools of magic haha spirit of vanilla amirite"was anyone asking for this
>>580841758>I just find it amazing how little drug dealers care about their crackhead customers and the crackheads still suck it up
>>580841707you can make one that looks exactly like this thoughever.
>>580841745its still going to be 100g (before discounts) when you combine the mount costs for 60% and 100%
>>580841758WoW forever is for dads and single mothers carrying a n* baby
>>580841620anyone still playing tbc right now (like myself) is just making characters to farm wow tokens easily later by logging in and doing cardinal ruby transmutes for the chinese and brazilians in wotlk, there is literally no other reason to keep playing
>>580841758>I just find it amazing how little blizzard cares about their playerbase and the playerbase still sucks it.If they'd do what you faggots want it would just be vanilla wow, with ogres.
>>580841756>Fel orcs skins for Thrall's Horde orcs>"Lore accurate"
>>580841793Yeah bro, selling a belves with blue paint on while completely raping the lore and filling up the game with retail abilities/talents and ui out of the get go is definitely a good decision for their vanilla+ project. We should applaud them for giving us an opportunity to play 20$ bucks a month for this.
>>580841805me (i'm retarded)
why did blizzard immediately go balls to the wall with retarded shit?the elves actually soured my friend group's impression of it.they were baseding out until that point.
Are you guys gonna buy beta acess, or wait till november?
How much are private servers paying this guy to spam on cooldown?
>>580841636he forgot to toggle
>>580841838you'll always be sniggering behind our backs about getting your fanfiction oc race into the game, it's not the same, it's not authentic
all forever needs is some celebrity commercials>i'm verne troyer, and i'm a mage.
I'm only disappointed that swipe is still capped at 3.
>>580841934this isn't surprising to anyone who played sodthere's something fundamentally wrong with faggrend and his team, they are out of touch with what the classic playerbase actually wants
>>580841840even if that's true, I'm not gonna be losing sleep over 100g.
>>580841959you have to or you are going to be left behind without the knowledge how to quickly complete quests and how to speed run dungeons
>>580841959I'll think about it, but it depends on the panel tomorrow. My friends are guaranteed to play it for at least a few months, so essentially playing $35 (discounting the 1 month subscription) to fuck around in the beta isn't the worst value proposition for me. Ambivalent, though.
>>580841927Ok, honest question, what's the deal with the UI? I see a lot of people crying about it, but other than the character portrait thingies it looks basically looks the same?
Good day, I am interested in forever however. Does anyone know if you can disable the "new" blue blood elves? It might be too much gamebreaking for me
>>580841905What's stopping some random ass orc in badlands from going "me no like it here, me go join green jesus instead".
>>580842074nopeat most you can make them have the "old" look of TBC blood elves
>>580842005>I'm verne troyer and I'm a midgeftfy
>2032>we heard you load and clear, wow forever, despite the success, is full of dlcs, packs, cosmetics, paid only areas, raids, classes and races and tiktok integration? honestly, sometimes it can feel like walmart and new players get confused by the huge ingame store. So, we at blizzard, thanks to our community, decided to launch forever vanilla classic lich king+, we going home! for the alliance! for the horde!
>>580835398Updated skill tree talents showed off here https://www.youtube.com/@TechWares/shorts
>>580842071the modern UI isn't sovlfvl or whatever I guess. I dunno, I don't think I have played wow with the stock UI since 2007.
This is probably cope but I unironically think the blue elves are going to be the least played race and they'll go away for the most part after normies go back to retoilet.
>>580842053>100g on a fresh server is no biggieyeah most people wont care about pay 2 win
>>580842109I see, thank you. It's a good riddance from my part then.
>>580842076>NOTHING!
>>580842139or you can just look at the calculator in the OP
>>580842139kys retard
>>580842153yeah, it isn't lmao.sounds like you have perpetual freshfag brainrot, obsessed with comparing yourself to "the pack" that doesn't exist and never existed.
>>580842076I swear sometimes i think all you private server/vanilla+ purists idea of "lore accurate" is actually just "everything that was canon and existing in either W3 or Vanilla. Everything else? Retail innovation that dosent belong"You people would rather have kobold or murlocs as new races than brand new ones just because "they existed in original vanilla WoW"
>Metzen no show at blizzconVery telling
>>580842071new thing bad etc
>>580842042>out of touchthis is definitely true, from what I could see they studied what private servers tried and are trying to apply them to their version.>>580842232>you would rather have ogres and nagas than OC elves huh???YEAH. I WOULD.
>>580839545oh shitI actually like the nudwarf skin but I fucking hate its overly bouncy running animation
>>580842151They gave them druid and shaman, tauren druids are gonna become near extinct
Can't AI help balance class abilitiy numbers?
So whats the pvp situation? Is it dedicated servers or warmode?
>>580841959I can just wait and the restedxp guide will be ready by launch /smile
>>580842232Remember that time Blizzard introduced some random blue elves out of nowhere in 2002
>>580842042>what the classic playerbase actually wantsPray tell, what does the classic playerbase want? Because there's fags that want era + a dungeon or two, maybe ogres, there's people that want even more changes than what Forever is delivering, and there's everything in between. Now which of these are they supposed to listen to? Honestly fuck the players, they're fucking retards.
>first name change $15>sur name change $15>two name change $24.99
When will they show tier sets. That's the one thing that decides my class and race.
>>580842076There are canonically no fel orcs in Vanilla WoW Azeroth. All the Warsongs were either killed or culled
>>580842304Toggable pvp, dead on arrival
why do so many of the male announcers sound like orcs? i thought dan might have been an original wc3 va before i realized he was just the fc3 guy.
>>580842232Ogres and High Elves would have been cool
>>580839402SoD was great, the team was a very hit or miss. I did love the hits though, a lot, but when they made a bad decision it was REAL bad.
>>580842304Wait until tomorrow, you're just going to get retards spreading misinformation with no source by asking now
>>580842359i yearn for ogre magi
fel orcs are kino so its fineblood/high elves are gay foidbait so its lame as hell
>>580842316there are plenty of ways they could have gone with new races. many of them would've been accepted, if not lovedneutral reskin allied race blue elves is so obviously not what people expect from this that it's absurd no one internally sounded the alarm and stopped it
>>580842359and would have resulted in >70% of the playerbase being alliance just to be a high elf and <1% of people playing ogres because they are fucking hideous and stupid looking.
>>580842323This isn't retail, you don't need to play at 100% to kill the last boss on mythic
>>580842151Yeah bro expect>80% of the horde is blood elves>you cant customize the blue elves to look exactly like normal fair-skinned elveseveryone here underestimates the popularity of elveselves are literally a lever used to balance out faction popularity
>>580842295Why would anyone not want to be one of the best races in the game for nu-slop?
>>580835398Retail - HOIP i'm gonna have a blast!Retail - HOIP i'm gonna have a blast!Retail - HOIP i'm gonna have a blast!
CLASSIC+ SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
If pvp is toggable what's the point of having factions...?
>>580842401I just know streamers got in and made characters so I thought that kinda stuff would be shown at character creation.
>>580841669Unironically this. Modern internet makes me defend companies I fucking despise because people hate on them for wrong reasons.
>>580841881hmm but what if they don't progress the servers to wrath and just kind of silently delete them once sunwell is over?
>>580842461This is the bitter blackpill no one wants to swallow
>>5808424144x multicast
which server is Asmongold playing???
jesus, just give blood elves to the hordehigh elves to the alliancenagas alliance, ogres horde.
>>580842473>Retail devsLMAO enjoy the maze bucko!
>>580842480so we already have war mode and now people want cross-faction grouping?what are we doing here?this is literally turning into retail
>>580842461you know we had classic, and there were more horde dominated servers than alliance with 0 pretty race on horde
>>580842473>hamburger heplerSHE'S BACK
>>580841669This. It's all people rage baiting each other for attention and yous or calling each other buzzwords like brown or tranny.
>>580842454Except people insist that no one wants elves every time, only for elves to immediately become the most played race.People doomposted and pissed and moaned about void elves endlessly too, guess what? they are now a top 3 most played race.So either the anti-elves are a vocal minority, or we have a serious discrepancy in stated vs revealed preferences here.
>>580842326I could have swore there were red skinoids in eastern kingdoms still, but maybe I'm just making shit up. It has been couple of decades, please be patient.
>>580842512w-well uh... haha... surely they wouldn't do that... there is an entire cohort of players who only play wotlk, after all...
>>580842461Good, the Horde was since the start a underdog factions of hardcore ugly bastards badass. We were no more than 1/3 of the Vanilla userbase and yet we were fine with it
>>580842454>many of them would've been accepted, if not lovedWell that's where you're wrong. It doesn't matter what they add, a substantial amount of faggots will cry regardless.
Anti elf is code for anti white
>>580842681
>the wow community has just accepted that paid beta and reskinned races costing you what a AAA game costs as normallollmao
>>580840027TAUREN BVLLS WE EATINGGUUUUUUUD
the whole elf discourse makes it clear they were right to add blood elves to horde back in tbc
>ele losing elemental masteryi dont know brehs that was like the most fun button in the entire game
>>580842620They were added in only TBC once the Dark Portal opened, but never ever mentioned in any text why they were red and why they were guarding the portal for the Horde >>580842681(((pointed eared people))) are usually wery jewish-coded in most IPs. See Elder Scrolls as an example
>>580842743even reddit is shitting on this though
>>580842569what do you mean it's turning into retail? >>580839070it is retailished already
>>580842604Vocal minority. If you were to go by what people spam in these threads, you'd think 99% of people would gleefully roll a fucking ogre given the chance.
If they just made the game cost $30 to play and a sub, would you prefer that over making the race cost $30?
>>580842743>>580842810The playerbase likes it. Cope and seethe.
>>580842461>>580842518They're already making the bluberries neutral and both faction, what would have stopped them from giving alliance High Elves and horde Blood Elves, if you're really that concerned with faction imbalanceyou really haven't thought out your line of argumentation very well, maybe you're a shill making excuses for blizzard's subversion, please don't pilpul me with lore and canon breaks since bluberries already contradict that argument
>>580842752>I want to play the edgy monster faction>but I don't actually want to play any of the edgy monster races and I'm demanding that you give me pretty feminine elves insteadI will never understand this mindset
>>580842839No of course not, obviously it's better to have the ability to play the game with 8/9 races than not.
>>580842461the horde were more popular in classic without elves. people keep parroting this fucking retarded bullshit
>>580842861>the edgy monster factionThat's Alliance though
I don't play poopnilla and seeing as I cant be Tauren Paladin or Worgen, are Bear Druids good or instakick
>>580842461>be ugly tranny IRL>can only play 'pretty races' in gamemany such cases
>>580842839I'm happy the gay race is paywalled, it means less people will use it.
>>580842810Reddit is actually the only place with common sense where people went "eh, it sucks but the expansion is free this way at least"
>>580842231might as well sell a week head start for 60$what is a week when the game is going to last FOREVER!?
>>580842861>I don't actually want to play any of the edgy monster races and I'm demanding that you give me pretty feminine elves insteadyes
>>580842905they'll be goodthey were already good dungeon tanks in vanilla, just not good raid tanks (big fucking HP pool doesn't help mitigate random nuclear damage)
>>580842905if you're a furry, you're relegated to playing druids in classic
>>580841606He would have liked it. He hated WoW the longer it went on. Just like me frfr
>>580842890There were no high elves in classic retard.High elves on turtle wow were far and away the most played race, to an absurd degree. High elves are simply more desired by the playerbase than night elves.
>>580842473you have to just quickly glance at these people to tell they simply do not understand vanilla wow at all
Do we know what the new WoW Forever quests will be like?Will they just be more kill boars until you get 37 boar asses type stuff
>>>/v/747560248
I wish they made Paladin healers like they originally planned, that they heal when they smash in melee.
>>580843072>AI slop postoh nonononoprivate server poors are not sending their best
yesterday everyone said pve/pvp servers and now everyone is saying warmodehuh?
>>580842995night elves aren't the same because...........THEYRE JUST NOT OK??????????????
Trannyniggers loving the smurf update I see. Wow is truly dead in the water, all thats left are zoomer minmaxers and troon retail players.
>>580843017Hope so. Nuquests are utter dogcrap.
>>580841348I might just go undead lock, wotf is still powerful. Orc is just better for PvE. I am curious how good troll regen is. Can’t wait for beta to test it out.
>>580843134we'll know later today
>>580843017>Will they just be more kill boars until you get 37 boar asses type stuffgod i hope so
A toast to gamers and a toast to classic forever!
>>580843134you're getting trolled. just wait for official information if you care.
>>580843138If they were the same then no one would be demanding high elves in the first place, obviously they are not the same.You think it's a coincidence that Alliance was dominant in OG vanilla, only to immediately flip to horde the second TBC dropped? And that blood elves immediately became the most played race on horde?
>>580843152No changes era servers are still there bro, go play on those. I don't get why people who don't want any changes at all even care.
>>580843134it's one guy spamming
>Skim thru talents and skills >TLDR all the non-powerful specs of the past will be overtuned and powerful now instead >dungeon finder >toggable pvp alright well lmao cya blizz
>>580843171>how good troll regen isIt'll be the best levelling warrior. 2-3 mobs, regen, repeat.In pvp, fear, regen, kill
They're defending the blueberry subversion fanfiction oc race because it's the wedge to get other stupid races into the game instead of what the community really wantsWe're basically arguing against faggot furshitters that want to make sure their sexual fetish gets in the game as soon as possible so they get their WoW Forever Second Life simulator to rub in our faces
>>580843134trolled lol
>>580842468I like seeing things and not getting stuck in doors while mounted
>>580843138Night Elves have a very specific look and aesthetic that may not be enjoyed by everyone (nature hippies).High Elves are basically humans, but prettier smarter and better in every single ways. So they attract a lot of people who just want to play a idealized perfect version of themselves
>want classic +>get retail -its sod all over again
>>580843134I'm pretty sure the different game modes thing was just for the blizzcon streamer event and when the actual game releases you'll have different servers for each mode like it has been for 20 years
>>580843254>what the community really wantsOgres and naggas? Get real.
>>580843235>dungeon finder >pvp toggle Source?
>>580843254next paid race is going to be a furry one 100%
>>580843171Troll Warlock will be strongest IMO, although they will either nerf Trolls or spells that heal Warlocks inevitably.
i dont want to do professions so im thinking ill just buy gold i have a well paying job
>>580842461even if we accept this at true, this is outweighed severely by the fact that horde players like pvp and ganking while alliance abhor any kind of pvp interaction outside of AV premades, so even while being outnumbered 40/60 horde will still oppress a server until the alliance thin out and transfer off (this is what happened on Faerlina)what's more, I feel like people kind of forget that there is a desire to play a disgusting ugly monster just as much as there is a desire to play handsome/beautiful races. lord of the rings orcs and goblins were abhorrently disgusting, but they're sick as fuck. My first ever character was named Urukhaai. If ogres had been in in vanilla, I would have played them. If Fel Orcs and Broken Ones had been in in TBC, I would've played them too. Is my desire to play an ugly monster somehow less valid than the desire for beautiful races? It's definitely felt like that for a long, long time
>>580843329>different servers for each mode like it has been for 20 yearsHow new are you
>>580843072He’s right.Horizontal progression is just another word for fashion simulator. You can do only so many gear sets until they become a meme, like in eso.
>>580843397based
If I told you that this general is full of browns that have never even touched wow, would you believe me?
>>580843324>retail but without stupid shit and flying, in the old world that made WoW so beloved in the first placeHow is it a minus?
>>580842232The funny thing is that that's correct. The Warcraft storytelling starts going massively downhill in TBC and completely falls off a cliff in Cata.
>>580843401You're just older and have taste. Most people here are men who imagine themselves as women. Money is king, and the jewniggers at Blizzard know retards will fork out 30 bucks to troon out in-game.
>>580843401>Is my desire to play an ugly monster somehow less valid than the desire for beautiful races? It's definitely felt like that for a long, long timeYes because there are far fewer people like you than there are people who want to play a pretty elf, and money talks louder than any complaint you might make. You might as well be I dunno a scalie or something lamenting that blizzard won't implement argonians into the game, as if it isn't blatantly self evident such a thing would be an extreme niche at best.And futhermore, if your only desire is to play a big ugly brute monster, what are you not getting from orcs, tauren and trolls that you would get from ogres? If anything, your position is OVER served in this case vs the people that want elves.
Forever cannot last forever yet you continue to be ignorant of this
>>580843537because new thing bad
woyerbros..............how are we leveling now with the talent/race changes?
There should be MORE info today
>>580842995>High elves on turtle wow were far and away the most played race, to an absurd degree
>>580843380this anon knows
>>580843417horizontal progression seems to just mean>you get bonuses when fighting against humanoids/undead/beaststhats it
>>580843606Oh dont get started with that sun will explode load of bullshit. If the lord said Forever then its Forever
Trying to get a black lotus in WoW Forever
>>580843537I get your point but it's now old world with avatar smurfs for no reason, plus cuckold lgbt writing (used to be only cuckold, specifically Illidan and his brother and bitches). I think it will be ok, but won't exactly please retailers or classicfags.
>>580843606Forever means no more free version like SOD & SOM, it's all paid new content from now on.30€ for each new races and maybe new content next year
>>580843547I think you are underselling it. TBC is no bullshit the single worst expansion for narrative in the history of the game, maybe short of shadowlands. TBC lore single handedly irrecoverably fucked the progression of wow lore in countless ways. Wotlk was decent, cata was a mess, and mop was a joke, but none of them did as much damage to the warcraft setting as TBC.
>>580843417Endgame raiding will almost certainly work like how it did in titanforged where certain raids are preferred over time and cycled in and out
>>580843689blizzard will finally crack down on bots this time for sure
High elves = blood elvesBlue elves = the future
i never liked how you had to eat and drink after every pull in classic, they should've not kept that """""""""feature"""""""""""
can't wait to play blue elves
the reddit spacing shill can't argue against the two most relevant posts in the thread, pathetic go away, shillyou're done
>>580843661>Absolute majority AllianceAnd people here are wondering why Smurfs Elves were added to the Hord too lmao
>>580843641Sunder. Auto attack (Parry). Sunder. Auto attack (Dodge). Sunder. Accidentally pull one more mob. Hamstring (Miss). Die.
I'm making it my mission in life to gank every Skytroon I find and grief them without compromise when they're on my faction or in my group.You will be become the raped, and know this, when I gank you and start teabagging your lifeless corpse - I WILL be jerking off while doing so.
>>580843793sylvanas SEX!
>>580843648I really want to know if world buffs in raids will still be a thing.
I can't believe they are actually that greedy for money that they are paywalling a Race
Blizzard took the wrong lessons from SoD and Private Servers.I actually didn't expect it to paywall an entire race, a lazy talent rework was expected.Blizzard did surprise me with just ripping wotlk dalaran 1:1 and adding it as a dungeon though.
Give it to me straight guysIs /spit in the game? Might be a pass from me if it isn't
>>580843661holy pink cancer
>>580843641troll, same as it ever was
>>580843749>WoW numbers keep going up and up during the whole TBC>"none of them did as much damage to the warcraft setting as TBC."
>>580843861It'll eventually be free. They paywalled void elves at the end of Legion too.
>Blizzard killed a bunch of custom content private servers for this.5% of the content that Twow or COA had with a price tag, monthly subscription and they still won't do anything about botting. >>580843254>We're basically arguing against faggot furshitters that want to make sure their sexual fetish gets in the game as soon as possibleDw chief I'm upset about this too.t. faggot furshitter
>>580843712Yeah the writing will probably be just retcon after retcon adding pozzed shit,but what can you do, I think it can still be decent
>>580837326I would unironically buy all of them.Blizzard openly embracing goonkino would be much better than what we have going on now.
What pisses me off the most is that everyone no matter where you go on the internet is shitting on the blue elves but blizzard and the Forever team won't ever adress the complains at all and will remain silent after they said how they listen to the community and want our feedback to build Forever. Legit disheartening.
>>580843847here you dropped this
no idea why people give a shit or even want high elvesit's literally just blood elves with a different name, how boring is that
>>580843885xaryu tried, you can't spit on people or mobs
>>580843861I'm really not seeing the difference between this and races being locked behind paying for expansions like with TBC or cata
>>580843970kek what a kwab fuck this guy
>>580843918Most people don't pay attention to the lore, I certainly didn't as a 13 year old playing TBC. And the gameplay was fine. The story content of TBC though was undeniably the worst shit they ever produced, except for shadowlands like I said.
>>580841071if you roll warlock and care about pvp at all i highly recommend going hordehorde has shatter curse and will of the forsaken and it's gonna be a pain in the ass to play against that as a warlock
>>580843947Pretty much. It didn't even stick to the vanilla-style too. It has straight up retail models in the new zones.ONE JOB. ONE FUCKING JOB.
>>580843969>What pisses me off the most is that everyone no matter where you go on the internet is shitting on the blue elves but blizzard and the Forever team won't ever adress the complains at all and will remain silent after they said how they listen to the community and want our feedback to build Forever.look man i hate the blue elves as much as they next guy but it has been like 17 hours since they revealed foreverwhat do you honestly expect to happen in that timeframe
>>580843995you're a nig without principles so it checks out
>>580843970lmao what the hell
It's not random that they're restarting from pre-MC. That's where half the original dev team left to make Guild Wars.
>>580843918refuses to see that wow's explosive player growth ended during tbc, you just don't know how to read a graph
>>580843918You know bad decisions can have delayed effects right?Everybody begged for and loved flying mounts at tbc launch for example. Now the majority of the classic audience hates what they did to the game.Looking at that graph too, seems growth was fastest during vanilla.
I have a dogshit opinion and I'll inflict it upon all of you
>>580844031I'll never forget searching for that key in felboar poop when I was 13. You are I aren't the same.
>>580843171>>580843243>>580843391If troll is the best for PvP and you have berserking too for PvE that would be pretty crazy. If somehow troll was best for both I assume it would get nerfed before the beta ends.
>>580835398Anyone else find it really off putting that they give high elves to both factions?
>Blizzard adults = Disney adultsThere, I said it.
>>580843243>>580843391Oh and I forgot about troll berserking, comfy 10% spell haste
You have to buy wc3 reforged to enjoy wc3 reborn skins (they want the refunded money back)Oh lawd they wilin'
>>580843314>want to play a idealized perfect version of themselveswhat kind of mental illness is this?
I've been checking the videos from blizzcon streamers and it is literally just retail -
>>580844172no
>>580843212what does alex think about forever
>>580844172No? they were gonna do that either way. If not this it would have been belfs to horde and high elves to alliance.
i hope the pvp is balanced now that wotfs isn't as brokenalliance gnome WL looking like the worst victim of racial changes still thoughbest classes look like the dwarf shaman and tauren druid to me (completely opinion)
>>580843973Because LORE.Most people understand why blizz feels like they need to have elves for both factions. People would be more accepting if that race had established lore in WoW pre vanilla.
Being brutally honest here. I don't think they get what Classic+ is supposed to be and took the diluted streamerfag polls at a face value.They didn't bother replicating the new stuff in a vanilla style as well...
https://www.indiekings.com/2026/09/by-indie-kings-september-13-2026.html>Blizzard just copied Skyborne race from D&DAll they do is copy, how incompetent are these people they hire???
>>580844223>i hope the pvp is balancedbro...
How is troll potentially the best pvp race for warlocks?
christ the skyborne starting area is fucking ugly
>>580844202Correct. It's just retail with classic numbers.
>>580835745I'm waiting till launch unless I get a beta key, but I'll get the scoop from my guildies
>>580844232High elves are blood elves, no matter how you mindtwist the lore to get what you want
>>580844281wtf are those enemy models
>>580844165Human, gnome, troll and nelf are S tier atm
>>580843648These need to be addressed rather sooner than later:Sharding/LayeringDungeon finder/Port stonesWorld buffsBotting (lol)ProfessionsEconomy (is getting fucked)Community tools/World (faction) chatHorizontal gear progression (some of the items of the premade test characters were very strong for lvl38)Friction preservationLegacy Talents going forward/SeasonsWhat aspects are going to be affected by future patches. Are there things set in stone.Future MTX (preorder shit and blue elves make me want to puke)
>>580844041Shatter curse is really not going to be a big deal.Curses have no cds and relatively low mana cost.Hell you could probably just throw a rank 1 agony on an orc and theyd just reflexively clear it so you can put the real curse onWotF is still a problem
>>580843401You simplified it pretty well.>non retard man>enjoy playing a monster and fighting other players >mentally ill freak>enjoy being pretty and never having to fight or be in danger
>>580844281what does this look like with low-poly models on
>>580844281is there a way to toggle the UI to look like classic?I hate those portraits and health bars
>>580844223>alliance gnome WL looking like the worst victim of racial changes still though>escape artist instant and gives short immunity>can snapshot 3 dots with 10% damage>wotf just eats one fear now
>>580844281this is literally indistinguishable from retail
>>580844350For PvP or PvE?
Top 3 likes and dislikes>Likes:Undead Paladin/Dwarf ShamanChanged racials especially for TaurenDruids won't suck>DislikesNew race is garbage even if it was free or sent you money backLazy talents, just a mix of TBC/WOTLK, game is already figured out. I like that Druids are good though.Paladin healing seems kind of dull, just based on talents.
>>580844281IS THIS FOREVER OR RETAIL?? I CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE
>>580844281That's just hillsbrad foothills with... dragons? Remove dragons and you have perfection.
>>580844281turtle wow tier in mob placement
>>580844353>Horizontal gear progression (some of the items of the premade test characters were very strong for lvl38)seen that one BoE green mace that was>up to 60 SPwtf is blizzard smoking?
>>580844440>>580844440>>580844440
>>580844281>>580844348>Dragonflight modelsOh fuck no
>>580844220I think it's really stupid, some high elves decided to join up with Horde and be shamans because elves sell so they need to be on both factions. It's so watered down and dumb.
>>580844280Warlocks hp bar is also their mana bar. Look at the regen on those racials man.Berserking is fine too
>>580844353>Botting (lol)also multiboxing and gold farming etc
>>580844232lore should be ignored if it's going to be as boring as that, we already have night elves, void elves, blood elves, night elvesgimme an ogre or something instead
>>580844281>sky elves>for some reason they are on the ground
>>580844280faster casting, faster health regen racials some would argue that it fixes lock's weaknesses with getting their casts off and gives locks another health stone, if the racials do what people think the tooltips mean
>>580843973>no idea why people give a shit or even want high elvesBecause that's not what they got so they latch on to it to have something to cry about. Just make a blonde skelf with blue eyes.
>>580844472>UMMM SO SOME PANDA ARE NICE SO THEY JOINED ALLIANCE>AND UHHH UMM SOME ARENT NICE SO THEY JOIN HORDEsame energy
>>580844515Health regen+ spells that heal can be OP very easily. See Legion expansion as an example. Obviously it won't be THAT OP in Forever (stupid name), but it will be strong. May be enough to counter AoE farms even. So far Undead Paladin seems like a good farming alt?
>>580844334So?Sky elves have 0 established lore in wow. Feels way more out of place in vanilla than blood elves which have loads of established lore, and a reasonably good explanation as to why they could be available to both factions.
>>580844660counter AoE nerfs* I meant
>>580844172all new races will be for both factionsappearing from their own island once a year for 30$
What does "horizontal progression" mean???Like instead of focusing on getting 1 strongest best in slot set you focus on collecting as many sets as you can for account wide bonuses that work even when unequipped once you collect all pieces like i saw in this opther game or something?
>>580844759kek
>>580839041Does plainsrunning work indoors?
>>580844494Oh I'm team ogre/goblin for sure.I'm just saying I get why blizz needs to push an elf in ($$$) and if they have to they should have done it in a less asspull fashion. There was a clear candidate in blood elves to do the exact same thing and be less obnoxious.
>>580844545except that kind of works for pandas cause they're an isolated race that has no ties to the struggle between the alliance and the horde and once they get thrown into the conflict, each of them is forced to pick a sideit makes no sense for not-highelves to join the horde because they're culturally and historically tied to the alliance
>>580844250no one currently working at blizzard understands what made vanilla wow good. They're all fat women, troons and beta males unironically. Add in the Jewish Activision money grubbing and this is what you get
>>580844356>not going to be a big deal>8 entire seconds of curse/bane immunity and reduced magic damage takennigger are you high
>>580844968Just fear them
>>580844769They could add more ways to earn BiS level gear, more PvP shit, something like chest runs in Guild Wars, new dungeons with catch-up gear etc. I could name bunch of horizontal content from Runescape but obviously Blizzard will never do those.
>>580844968>8 entire seconds of curse/bane immunityThis removes...one dot.>reduced magic damage takenUnknown numbers, could be 30% or could be 30 flat.
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>>580844769yes that's what it means in realitybut the people wanting it don't know that's what it means and will regret it once they find out
>>580845020yeah just fear the orc warrior with berserker rage>>580845081it doesnt say it removes a bane or curse, it says IMMUNITY TO you illiterate retard
>>580844968Can the felhunter eat this buff off them by the way?
>>580845214Yeah people underrate how OP IMMUNITY is (and unfun to play against). I bet they nerf bunch of those anyway.
>>580845214holy SCIENCE you're immune to hecking bane of agony for 8 seconds true game changeranyway let me just trinket a full kidney twice with a human warlock
>>580844769twow did it pretty well, there were different tier sets for different specs or gimmicks (like vampirism), and then things like needing full arcane resist gear to get past a kara40 boss, things of that nature
>>580845214Thats a warrior matchup problem that has existed since vanilla. Not an orc matchup problem.Destro and demon loc probably wont give a shit about curse breaker at allDestro lock will just have their succubus seduce you then wind up the big spellsDemon lock will just laugh at you in soul link
>>580845162XDKungenNaaah
>>580844968The only warlock curse this matters against is exhaustion. Only affliction warlocks are going to care
>>580845314ok cool, we were talking about warlocks you retardobviously if you wanna play rogue it's fucking different
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>Blizzard managed to get classictards to play retailLMAO
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/SlyvernCLASSIC+ MORE LIKE RETOILET 2.0
>>580838301Troll warlock makes plenty of sense. Voodoo magic is similar to warlock fantasy. Dum dum orcs being high intelligence mages just doesnt work. Gnome priest is wishy washy for me but then again I think every race should get priest because, theoretically, all races have some type of religion
>>580843973i don't know why people play golf
