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What is WoW Forever?
Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.

>New Race Skyborne
Skyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages

>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman

>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000


>When is it being released?
Release date November 4th

>Will there be a beta?
Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
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I re-watched the reveal and I think and I honestly think they're going for a more FFXI vibe where parts of the overworld are a lot harder and you have to rely on other players in order to gain meaningful progression, with emphasis on community. Stuff like Campsites are from TERA, or Blade & Soul, if I remember correctly, where you'd have to be near a campfire in order to either get rid of a debuff or gain a buff. And it took a while.

I'm fucking HYPE!
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We're so fucking back!
And this time forever!
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I miss /wowcg/, wodbros? mopbros? tbcanniversarybros? hardcorebros?
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>>580844264
>>580844264
>>580844264

Just play DnD anon
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Pack it up boys, it's just retail.
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I genuinely think people wouldn't give a fraction of the fuck that they do about not-high elves if they weren't blue.

Why did they make them blue.
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Asmongold here, I am very hyped. Anyone else feeling hyped? I think WoW is back. This promises to be a blast and a lightning in a bottle.
And it's here FOREVER!
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>>580844440
High elves on both sides is such a stupid decision. Cheaper than a modded private server.
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>>580844571
he forgot to toggle on the good graphics
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>>580844578
>Why did they make them blue.
They wanted the female draenei audience
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>>580844571
>still need to eat and drink after every mob
>still has durability

just delete it
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did alex give his take yet
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>>580844571
hyjal levelling road...home...
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>>580844571
>it's all just retail from the ui to the models to the textures

I'm feeling sick...
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If you wonder why they added Smurf Elves on Forever, you just have to understand that the chink userbase absolutely hates playing "ugly" races. They want to play pretty elves and bunny girls
The chinks like pic related demanded them on Forever, just like they forced Blizz to add Blood Elves to the Horde 20 years ago
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I think they are still planning to add high elves/blood elves in the future. The sky elves can't be paladins or priests and the horde ones can't be mages, and these are the 3 classes most associated with helfs/belfs
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Why are you so excited about this game?

Why are you acting like this version is going to change everything?
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I think the skyborne was some in joke about no flying in forever but it didn't land (lol) as intended
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>>580844571
This just looks like Hillsbrad Foothills, but with the mob density of the Night Elf starting zone. What am I supposed to be seeing here?
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>>580844571
>fell for it again award
You are all so stupid I swear.
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>>580844650
>Why are you so excited about this game?
Because it seems fun.
>Why are you acting like this version is going to change everything?
Why does it need to change everything?
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elf shaman is fucking gay imagine losing your t2 helmet roll to a blue guy
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>>580844578
because if they made high elves, they'd have to have white skin and that would be racist
making them blue makes them immune to any accusation of racism that insane californian millenials might raise
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>>580844641
So add fucking high elves and blood elves jesus christ
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>>580844571
if you showed me this next to a picture of a troon retail elf starting zone i honestly wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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>>580844571
>dragonflight model
OH HELL NO
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>>580844571
Seems forever is just an elaborate scheme to end classic and convert classic players black into retail players
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YO LISTEN UP
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I'll spend actual time and effort on making an ugly infographic explaining my dogshit opinion
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>>580844730
this was the sensible option.
>high elf exiles for alliance
>blood elves for horde
also I am guessing they didn't add a gnome or troll starting area.
which is fucking LAME.
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>Everyone will be clamoring for Skyelf players to dungeon/raid cause they know they won't be a bot or brown
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>>580844587
>Asmongold here, I am very hyped. Anyone else feeling hyped? I think WoW is back. This promises to be a blast and a lightning in a bottle.
>And it's here FOREVER!
megadittos
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FOREVER WON
TEMPORARY LOST
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>go to my usual brothel in gadgetzan
>stupid sindorei retard has painted herself blue to try and garner the Draenei audience
>nobody is buying still
>think for a second maybe giving her a pity bit of patronage so she can climax for once in her life
>see a bit of femsaken ass out of the corner of my eye
>decide to do someone better
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>>580844707
I'm making a fem skelf shaman ;^)
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>>580844850
This is why I'm rolling a blueberry elf druid.
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>>580844571
Yeah, I'm not playing skyborne lmao.
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>>580844571
So why do they call it classic+ ? isn't this just..retail all over again?
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>>580844791
>fake server to play on
what?
>goylems are literally in tears over the announcement
okay?
>you have multiple ways to play
what?
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What do I have to buy to be apart of name reservations? The cheapest option, that is.
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everyone is going to quit tbc anni (if they haven't already) for the beta and then get bored being stuck at 30 for a month and then get mad when it gets wiped at launch
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>>580844641
corrective rape
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>>580844850
TRVKE.
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>>580844571
>classic but retail
Why you people are excited for this?
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>>580844974
you have to pay for the 30 dollar epic elf edition
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>>580844707
They could have just made the elfs horde paladin race, member belfs? Instead now they have to justify both UD paladins and random ass sky elves to the lore nerds.
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>obvious stuff like many new dungeons and raids also full class/spec rebalance
>stay on azeroth but its drastically different than vanilla
>world buffs don't work in raids or dungeons
>vanilla friendly QOL like duel spec, fast mail, guild banks, etc. no flying mounts
>make dungeons meaningful at 60 in some way like M+ but no time trial garbage
>systems that get rid of or at least heavily delay raidlogging
>make longevity an actual thing so even really old raids and dungeons are relevant, basically good horizontal progression
>loot is tied to the boss and not the raid so my lockout isn't ruined by a bad raid group
>professions allow you to craft really powerful items and make the mats something that you have to farm outside raids and make them bop
>overhauled pvp system especially emphasizing open world pvp
>raids to be flexible between 10-20 people
>new classes and races
>basically wow 2 where there is regular new content updates for years to come just like retail
>every faction gets every class
>no combat addons like weak auras
>legendaries are class specific and require 50+ hours of doing unique quests and farming, can't be sped up with gold
>blizzard actually stops botting or at least punish gold buyers for once and set a precedent of it to deter others from doing the same
This was my wish list before Blizzcon. Somewhat disappointed but asking for all this was unrealistic to begin with.
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they didn't have to do avatar elves
they could have just stuck with night elves and given forsasken the option to become undead elves like sylvanas.
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>>580844974
The $30 heroic pack or higher.
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>So ugh yeah we're just going to keep adding more endgame raids and more levelling dungeons

You think this will last?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWA0EenDY

Are you ready?
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Hey guys, I'm looking for the MOP Classic general, but I don't see it.
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>>580844791
people like this need to be skinned alive and shown to others in public as an example of what happens to faggots in the new age
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>>580844978
Tbc is in raid log mode, that wont change

People will just stop sloping up the raid scene with their alts and i wont lose tsunami trinket to 0 log retards anymore
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>>580845094
Classic is dead now
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>>580844571
>failed all attemps at classic
>playerbase already diping and leaving
>"We need to do something and keep these players!" I got an idea
>Let's give them away to hook them to retail with a classic background
lol
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>>580845094
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>>580844974
30€ version is new race unlock
60€ version is new race unlock + beta + name reservation + 30 days time
90€ version is everything + warcraft reforged + DLC
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>>580844875
It doesn't mean anything, retail is also "forever" it just got watered down to the point that people don't want it. Forever haven't even launched yet, and they've already introduced double-faction smurfs
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>>580845135
>now
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>>580844650
Because it looks fun and it’s fresh and new
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so now that the jailor has been retconned, what turned sylvanas crazy?
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>>580844440
This is so strange, I was expecting a classic+ but it's more like they're making a second retail alongside current retail. Bizarre timeline
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>>580845078
yes
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>>580844571
kek tf is this
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>>580845181
It was dead before but now it's buried
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>>580845047
Yeah it's kinda strange they didn't give skelves paladin and shaman (alliance). Only giving dwarves shaman on alliance was a gigacucking. All armor looks so squished and shit on dwarves.
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>gnome priest
>orc mage
>dwarf shaman
>undead paladin
>human hunter
im not even mad
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>>580844571
>your skill in swords has increased to 5
okay so weapon skill is still in. anons were lying to me yesterday saying weapon skill had been removed
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>>580845201
my dick
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>>580845078
eventually it will get to an absurd point where there's like 20 dungeons for a certain level range and no one runs them and they're struggling to find places to put the portal entrances
not sustainable
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>>580845204
it was advertised as wow 2 to the streamers.
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>>580844571
Oh you just know this is going to be another bot paradise and they will add wow token after a year
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>>580845201
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>>580844571
Reminds me of OSRS where the devs made Zeah and it was fucking awful and had to fix it 2 years later.
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Did any of you care about megatron in northrend
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>>580845201
lack of Arthas dick
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>>580845078
works on osrs.

the key to osrs has been that gear upgrades barely increase your dps. Going from a mid-game armor piece to literal bis costs hundreds of millions of gold which translates to hundreds of hours, and it will increase your dps by like 1% at best. And people still want the best gear as much as any wow tier.

wow has massively inflated ilvl value increases for a very long time for no reason.
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>>580845201
the original idea of how undead perceive the world and are unable to feel any emotion except rage was more than enough to explain why she seems 'insane' to the living
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>>580845078
but the new bis trinket drops from one of the bosses in the new raid so log in NOW!
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>Want to play UD paladin
>Human racials are so busted it's not even close
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They're already making the bluberries neutral and both faction, what would have stopped them from giving alliance High Elves and horde Blood Elves, if you're really that concerned with faction imbalance
you really haven't thought out your line of argumentation very well, maybe you're a shill making excuses for blizzard's subversion, please don't pilpul me with lore and canon breaks since bluberries already contradict that argument
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>>580845296
Yeah, adding more cancerous lumps onto Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor to justify a new Raid/Dungeon

It's going to flop bigly after 1+ year unless they start actually resetting progress/revamping older dungeons/zones.
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>>580844571
>blizzshart killed the private server community for this
>retarded goycattle will still eat it up and already begging blizzard to be able to spend extra money for beta access and name reservation

Blizzard are awful but the community is even worse because they actively enable them.
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>>580845078
They will need to add new classes to get people to want to level more characters
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>>580845135
But I haven't even finished heroic Siege of Ogrimmar yet? WTF.

So I guess no WOD classic either?
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>>580844571
I like how it looks. Retail trannies can stay in their "competitive" game and Vanillers can keep playing the same game for another two decade. Us chill gamers will play World of Warcraft: Forever. See you in new, better Azeroth.
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>>580845381
why are they even a part of the horde? they're literal rage zombies. the cairne and thrall didn't have a problem with that?
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Im going to virtually rape every Skytroon i see in world and make them straight males again once the rape trauma wears off
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>UD paladin
>Dwarf shaman
The most sought after class/race combo for each respective faction, if you want insta group and raid invites these are the picks
UD paladin will be common but dwarf shaman wont
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>>580845491
this but unironically
if I can play on controller it will be based as fuck
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Can a retoilet explain if this rebooted timeline makes sense canonically? Or just fuck make it up as it goes.
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>>580845391
>first pvp fight on my UD paladin
>hoj the mage
>racials out of it
>gets the polymorph off on me
>I get ra-
huh??? wuh???
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>>580845462
you have to level every class and race to lvl60 and every profession to 300 to unlock all the account wide passives
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>>580845356
>wow has massively inflated ilvl value increases for a very long time for no reason.
to stretch out new raid progression and gaslight players into thinking they improved when they finally down a gatekeep boss, except it was the accumulation of new gear from previous bosses that did it
not necessary now since the dad gamers want raids to fully fall over on day one
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>>580845491
You are such a fool thinking this game won't become competitive too.
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>>580845446
BROWNIE DETECTED! ALERT!
BROWNIE DETECTED! ALERT!
BROWNIE DETECTED! ALERT!
BROWNIE DETECTED! ALERT!
BROWNIE DETECTED! ALERT!
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>mana and energy regen is NOT on the server ticks anymore
hoooooly, finally.
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What new class do you want
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quick quick!
somebody stop arthas from becoming the lich king!
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>>580845559
*licks lips*
Brownies you say???
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>>580845406
>what would have stopped them from giving alliance High Elves and horde Blood Elves
Make a skelf with blue eyes and blonde hair = high elf
Make a skelf with green eyes and blonde hair = belf
It's as simple as that.
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>>580845406
High elves will never be playable.
It's time to accept that anon.
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>>580845592
Tinker
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>>580845446
yeah turtle was had so much higher quality content FOR FREE (32 slot bags, dual spec, mobile AH, vendor and mail box only 20 bucks each!)
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>>580845538
They said it's year 1 vanilla and they'll make it up as they go
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>>580845534
>dwarf shaman
ugliest race on alliance and most niche class in the game. yeah i see it those will be far rarer than draenai shaman in tbc
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im gonna have fun with wow forever, it seems like exactly what I want from an mmorpg
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the wow token on mop has been stuck at 90k gold for days now. should i just blow my 1.5 milly gold on tokens now for forever?
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>>580845592
Tinkerer with goblins for horde and gnomes for alliance
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>>580845592
bard
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>>580845626
no horde race has iq for class like this
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>>580845497
Cause the living humans claim lordaeron as their own so they have to ally with the horde to not get raped by the alliance, and the horde benefits from it
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>>580845614
shadow elves and blood elves are literally high elves.
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>>580845673
mfw i dont have to worry about this because im not broke
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>>580845673
wait really? damn, time to farm mop's bloated corpse and max out my game time
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>>580845662
I dunno enhance looks like it'll be a fun spec. Ret looks awful.
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>>580845673
might as well, as the population collapses that number will only go up
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>>580844571
FURRY TRANNIES WON AGAIN AHAHAHA NOW EVEN CLASSIC GOT THE FULL CANCER
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>>580845673
its already going up so what do you think?
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>>580845613
remove the ability for them to be blue then, don't be afraid of compromise, don't die on your subversive hill
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>>580845673
Do transmoggies sell on MoP classic? I have a bunch of removed shit stockpiled from vanilla.
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>>580844571
Looks good to me
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>>580845592
Necromancer. Now that there are no death knights we can have a proper necromancer!
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every single thing i have seen so far looks like SoDslop

has anyone actually watched the streams and who isnt a complete fucking retard and knows how classic and SoD differ tell me if it actually is SoDslop?
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They should dynamic quests where each update to Forever they add/remove quests from the Original Zones to keep the 1-60 levelling experience "fresh" and kill addon/guide trannies.
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>botters buying the epic edition to get in the beta to start programming their bots for launch leveling routes
MONEY MONEY MONEEEEY
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>>580845550
If they really follow through on the "forever" thing, aka there is no time pressure to complete content before it becomes irrelevant, I think it will be less competitive. At least I will definitely treat it very differently than I would normal wow. On regular wow you can't stop playing for a few months if you are tired of the game then come back, because 2 entire tiers will have blown by and you are either permanently behind or missed out on content. Assuming they manage to avoid that, the landscape will be entirely different.
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What will happen at tonights blizzcon?
more info announced on wow forever?
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>>580845662
I'm desperately trying to convince my guild to go horde so I'm not stuck with some shitty dwarf to play the class I like.
t. enhance gigachad
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>>580845842
>>580845687
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>>580845863
yeah its just SoD
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can horde stay the bad guys now? and can we stop killing the bad guys for being too bad and let them be venerated heroes in their own land?
i want to see sylvanas poison gas everyone
i want to see garrosh rip and tear.
and i want anyone who cries about muh violent horde to shit their pants and have to clean it up.
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>>580845889
hopefully more mommy nipplekino
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>>580845631
Can't place where this pic is at. Is that stonetalon mountains or what? Never spent much time there.
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>>580845794
i think it's fixed by blizz to not go up since wod isnt happening
>>580845826
mop is dead now. all my gdkp cords are moving on to forever
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>>580844571
>we don't like retail! we want classic! no changes!
>what if we gave you classic but retail?
>THANK YOU BLIZZARD
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>tfw you only get a +50 attack power green ring from RFC
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>>580845863
If it's a better version of SoD I'm happy.
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>>580845823
Nigger you can pick whatever skin color you want. Pale as snow if you like.
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>>580845040
>>580845076
H-How do I check which account I bought it on?
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I'm a retail chad and I'll play both
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>>580846025
based
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>>580845257
>gnome priest
I can live with this even though it makes gnomes into mini dwarves even more than they already were and it doesn't really make sense considering gnomes are supposed to be the atheist redditor race that only worships technology and intelligence
>orc mage
retail-tier bullshit that makes no sense and isn't supported by lore at all
>dwarf shaman
this one makes sense because of the whole dwarven earthen lore and it's the smoothest way to add shamans to alliance
>undead paladin
makes sense since undead priests have always been a thing.
>human hunter
prefectly reasonable race/class combo that was supposed to be in the game originally, but was removed because they didn't want to give humans too many class options compared to other races
>troll warlock
retail-tier bullshit that makes no sense and isn't supported by lore at all
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>>580845958
Didn't the fat fuck algren ban gdkps in SoD? Inb4 he does the same in forever.
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since the goal is to collect armor sets to boost all of your character's stats, the best thing to level first is a tank or healer, right?
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>>580845914
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>>580845889
they're announcing its cancellation due to the extreme negative reception
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>>580845863
Watched Soda play a dungeon as boomkin
He ran out of mana potion, couldnt kill the boss because oom, rage-respecc'd to feral and killed it 1st try
the trve classic experience
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there are normoids here who will decide what faction they play based on a guild decision

lol, lmao even.
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if I buy the oink oink squeal $150 physical pay piggy addition does it automatically activate the 30 days of playtime or can I choose when its used
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>>580845917
so it actually is just retail abilities randomly mixed with classic and metamorphosis warlocks and shadowform priests running around at lvl 1?

jesus fucking christ
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>oh wow, look at all the new race/class combos
>and skyborne elfs?
>*creates character*
>human
>male
>warrior
>perfect!
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>>580846135
it's always immediate
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>don't know which region to play on
>or server
>or server type
>or faction
>or race
>or class

its over
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In a year's time we'll get the even higher elves. The orbit elves. Trust the plan
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>>580846098
people just pre bid for stuff in cord, just like in anni realms
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>>580846163
He's literally me.
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>>580846116
Tank.
There are always plenty heal sissies to go around.
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>>580846132
>haha these normies have friends, losers!
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>>580846135
It's activated at the start of the month so when the games released on 4th of November you'll be on a timer.
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>getting the itch to buy the collector edition for the statue
help
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Warrior just isn't a fun class to play in vanilla
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>>580846163
don't forget to set his skin/hair/facial hair/face to look as similar to your irl appearance as possible
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>>580844571
actually retarded and gay
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>>580846193
I genuinely ogres will finally be added to Forever at some point. Retail will never get them though
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>>580846017
Sure, just remove the ability for them to be smurfs by removing the subversive fanfiction oc blue skin color and let them start on quel-thalas and we're all good
why die on this subversive hill, you're no a spite driven commie are you
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>>580846132
>giving a shit about muh faction
genuinely one tier below normgroid
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>>580846256
It's only $150. That really isn't expensive for what you're getting.
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>>580846209
I bid 50gold and I'll suck your bgc ontop
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>>580846256
i just want the mousepad :3
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>>580846082
Why can't trolls teach orcs about arcane and orcs teach trolls about fel?
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>>580845952
The empty field zone east of wetlands past grim batol.
Ironically one of the better early turtle additions compared to the garbage that are the zone expansions, the banana islands or the high elf starting area.
People fellate turtle content but it didn't get good additions until one year before it was shut down and like 5+ years into the server lifespan.
Moonwhisper coast was on par with original vanilla zone and dungeons like dragonmaw retreat were cool.
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>>580846256
you don't need more plastic bullshit sitting around your house. you will stop caring about it in a matter of months anyway. just think of all the bullshit pokemon trinkets or whatever you had to have that are now rotting in a landfill or your parents' attic.
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>>580846150
ehh they capped the abilities at wotlk-cata levels it seems
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>everything i dont like is retail
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>>580846259
you obviously either haven't played warrior in vanilla or you're dogshit at the game
warrior is by far the most fun class when it comes to clearing endgame content
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>>580846256
it's sold out
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>>580845631
Turtle sucked ass, sorry bud. No one cares about your private server fantasy.
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>Have to find a guild again
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>>580846253
>>580846176
so if I buy now ill be fucked? chances of them running out of preorders? I am having FOMO pretty bad because that statue is kind of sick and I was going to buy WC3 anyways so it seems more reasonable than it normally would be
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>>580846270
well of course!
*set skin and hair color to the darkest black*
*pick the face with the widest nose and the biggest lips*
where the white skybornes at?
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>>580846237
enjoy getting cucked out of items because you're not arselicking the inner circle.

>>580846323
Not the point i was making chump boy.
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I know everyone is fighting over elves and what not, but this anon is spitting facts. They didn't reveal an ounce of content that had any longevity or horizontal progression, just new zones, dungeons, and raids. I'm worried the game will get boring fast as fuck and Blizzard will never make any actual evergreen content. The best we'll get is like SoD's Scarlet raid where the gear didn't invalidate tier 3 every 6 months.
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>>580846453
pug chads will win in Forever
guild trannies will be shunned
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>>580846320
I don't care about any of your culture war shit.
Hot elf bitches = good.
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>>580846507
>AI generated post
*yawn*
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>>580844440
Will Anduin still be protected by Lady Katrana Prestor in Forever?
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>>580844850
I'd rather play with third worlder 500 ms ping players than a skyborne keyboard turner.
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>>580846256
good goy, make sure you also buy an EV and get a covid booster, you never know
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>>580846453
You have to find a guild that won't die 1 month in because of tourists, you could also join the official /wowfg/ guild (trannies included)
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>>580846468
if you buy now then yeah it'll run out by the time it's released on november 4th
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all the skyborne seethers. I was there. 3000 years ago, when tbc originally launched. we had the same type of retards seething at dranei
>OMG BLUE SPACE GOATS WTF BLIZZORD?!?!?!
yet look at where most people are today, they goon over dranaei females. stfu, and take your meds.
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>>580846507
I recognize that guy, he was having a meltdown in the retail thread because he doesnt believe it's the end of retail
kinda feel bad for him(you)
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ngl the game looks fire af its just like vanilla!
>>580846507
>horizontal progression
they did, it's going to be
>you get extra stats when fighting a certain type of mob
so you get some dungeon gear that has extra stats against undead, you bring it to naxx or some shit
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>>580846367
if you're going by the logic of 'why can't x race teach y race about z class', then there shouldn't be any class restrictions at all
the point of having different races in a fantasy setting is that each race is supposed to have a distinct identity which is exclusive to them and makes them unique
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>>580846453
cum join us in the beta
all the thirdies won't be there, you will find a guild that can actually clear content
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>>580846507
retard
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>>580845406
if they announce a new race and its just more elves that would be extremely dissapointing
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>>580846623
I still do not understand what the problem is supposed to be with this pic? the controller stuff??
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>>580844571
>classic with worldslop saga models and features
What the fuck they are doing
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>>580846507
What else do you want from an mmo?
Do you really want a second job?
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>>580846494
>enjoy getting cucked out of items because you're not arselicking the inner circle.
But I am part of the arselicking inner circle :D
t. on the lootcouncil since classic BWL
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>>580846649
nah I am good, not playing this garbage to condition classic players into retail
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>>580846649
>that can actually clear content
so, everyone?
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>>580846690
There isn't a problem. It's just one guy replying to himself 20 times. He's been at it on cooldown for hours.
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Alright /wowfg/
Are there any immediate dealbreakers with this game?

Me? battlepets or trannymogs.
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Erm where's my aimed shot and wtf is this shit?
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>>580846507
They're doing a huge deep dive today.
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>>580846541
dragon pussy
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yoo the ping system is in forever retail ftw
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>>580846690
>the ui
>the retail mob models
>quest markers
>>580846752
so true sis, we are all playing forever forever
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>>580846757
Aimed shot is baseline
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Someone explain to me why vanilla grandpas are crying over it not looking like a 20 year old game
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>>580846527
obviously you do since you're not compromising with me, you spite driven leftist shit, you're only here to subvert and shit up the game by turning it into something even more unrecognizable than it already is
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>>580846481
virtual blackface is not cool, anon
if you wan't to make a black character, you're gonna have to submit a photo of a valid ID proving that you're black irl
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>>580846757
aimed shot is baseline now
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>>580846757
Aimed shot with 6 second cooldown is obviously too overpowered -_-
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>>580846640
orc mages are a stretch for sure because culturally orcs have no connection to intellectual arcane pursuits. I don't see why troll warlocks are a problem though because they already have a strong association with occult evil magics with all the voodoo shadow priest stuff.
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>>580846623
actually the "horiontal" progression is actually just vertical progression, because for example to get all the legacy unlocks you have to level multiple times meaning to get a "minmax" pro character you need to buy the lvl boost 5-6 times until you start to actually swipe on gdkps
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Mists of MoP... home...
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>>580846785
THAT'S LIT
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>>580846527
This guy gets it
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Warlock can stack 50% phys dmg reduction
30% from soul link, 10% from molten skin, 10% from MD
LOL
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>>580846507
>tired ass culture war narratives
ZzZzZz
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/wpsg/ absolutely seething in here
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>>580846785
the list of forever features NOT from retail is getting increasingly smaller
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>>580846797
Uh oh, you got called out and now you're having another melty!
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>>580846808
They were misled to believe we'd get classic but with some new content that'd fit right in. They weren't expecting alternate reality retail 2
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>>580846683
by your own logic they are since the blueberries are both factions, try harder shill
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i summon alexensual
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>>580846797
The UI looks fine to me, much better than xperl or whatever I used to use in actual classic. The models look fine too. I don't get it, is this a "if it doesn't use 2004 models it's shit!!!" argument?
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Curious to see the changes to professions and pvp ...
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>>580846853
I get that, but thats their idea of horizontal progression
just extra stats when fighting against a certain type of mobs
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>>580846852
orcs originally had magi in the shadowmoon clan, but pretty much all of them became warlocks
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>>580846612
>"once the nerds have been driven out, the dudebros and stacies actually love the hobby they took over"
degradation of a hobby
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>>580846785
>PING
>PING
>PING
>PONG
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Blizzdrones really are the most insufferable people. Some guy was saying that paying for a new race is effectively a mtx and the other redditor is arguing how the game itself is free. I ask him how is the game free if you're paying a sub for it dude and the guy tells me Blizzard said themselves that it was 'a free addition to the subscription package'. Like holy retard I can't with these animals.
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What time is the deep dive
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>>580846430
not in the eu
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>reee spell ranks are free trainers dont train retail retail retail
so many lies floating around
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>>580846852
because warlocks are specifically supposed to be tied to the burning legion and trolls have had no interactions with the legion or demons in general up until they were scooped up by thrall off their little island
but I agree and I'd put troll warlocks in the same category as gnome priests where it doesn't really make sense, but it can kind of work if you don't think about it too hard

orc mages are still a retarded concept though
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>>580846612
It's for you, king.
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>>580847003
3 bongs
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>This time, for sure, the 6th time is the charm for another "new" wow
>the new wow in question
>>580844571
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>>580846975
well regardless playable orcs aren't shadowmoon or associated with them correct?
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>>580846967
>"if it doesn't use 2004 models it's shit!!!"
yeah. if it doesn't even try to replicate the old style and clearly doesn't fit into the game as it was made for retail, then it isn't "classic+".
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I can forgive the bad ui, because I'll just be using this one once it gets updated anyways
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tbc is dead and none of you care
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>>580846972
Every time alliance loses WSG their fem nelf are placed into the breeding shed for the next 24hours.
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>>580847165
Good. TBC = worst expansion
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>>580847115
Old style to me doesn't mean it must have 30 polygons or less. I'm perfectly fine with higher fidelity as long as the aesthetic remains classic inspired, which it seems to be.
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>It's okay for Trolls and Night Elves to be blue
>It's not okay for these other elves to be blue
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>>580846957
i didn't liked the new elves at all, there are way more interesting races they could pick from and in worst case there are the elves we already know
but that said, they're there now, theres nothing i can do only pray that the new races are something new and cool, and not even more elves
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>>580847165
I care. This was my redemption for not clearing t6/sunwell in original TBC when I was a teenager, now they've murdered it before it finishes
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>>580844512
campsites are literally a copied idea from turtle with the tents
everyone said the mobs are now easier just like in retail so it appeals to the retail audience that wants to zoomzoom to max level fast
you have a literal paid race from the get go lmao (I'm sure it ends there and they won't start charging for random shit next right?)
and it's """""fOrEvEr"""""" meluvu4eva
Hype for what????
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>>580846967
It all looks terrible. And no, you dont need new graphics for classic+. OSRS is doing better year after year and it looks like trash. People play ascii art games like dwarf fortress ffs.
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>>580847083
I hate the way this looks
the classic trainers with just a list of green/red spells were so much nicer and cleaner
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>>580847087
Stop being racist and let orcs read books if they want
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>>580847220
Well yeah it's like the black face.
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Why do they call it classic+ when it's obviously just a vacation for retail players to shit all over classic
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>>580847165
>tbc for the third time but everything is baby difficulty for crying dad gamers
good
should have died in p1
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>hunter in forever
>20% lone wolf
>already 1500 aimed crits
>1200 multi crits
>in dungeon blues
>still can't earn a dps spot in raids
It's fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. In the 6 seconds(gcd+4 second cast +2 second travel time) it takes a hunter to dish out an 1800-2k aimed, if it crits, the warrior hits the boss 8 times for a combined 4-5k. The Hunter didn't need more burst damage. The Hunter needed DPS through synergy and scalability. A good start would have been making the pet immune to all AOE effects. That's an easy 250dps right there. Maybe boost pet damage by a flat 10%. But the Hunter did not need more burst.
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>>580846809
Era is there to play if you don't want any changes, chief.
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>>580847219
>which it seems to be.
what
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>>580844440
World of Warcraft: Azeroth
Is that a better name instead of Forever?
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>>580845884
it will become irrelevant no matter what because the rest of the playerbase will move on.

Vanilla wasn't designed for the long term and there's no systematic changes in place to make it so. It won't be casual or competitive, it will just be dead.
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>>580846976
heres a different interpertation to your retarded schizo meme talk
>once the autistic spastic spergs stop having their fit, the normal mentally healthy people can enjoy the thing
no one is making games for you, because you are mentally unwell and everyone hates you.
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World of Warcraft Forever? I'm going all in. And what does that mean? So what that means in I'm going full Asmongold. What does that mean? I am shutting off real life besides my employment for probably 6 months. I'm going all in with this. If you want to play this king of game, you're either all in or you're all out, and I'M ALL IN. There is no ifs, ands, or buts. That is the discussion, It's either you're in or you're out. And I'M IN.
That means no life.
That means no girlfriend.
That means no friends.
That's my life. That's it.
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>>580847165
WOTLK anni never took it's first breath
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>>580847312
What exactly is the problem? It's some kind of wild animal. It's not an alien void beast with purple tentacles and swirling particle effects like the shit they have in retail. It looks fine.
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>>580847273
>OSRS is doing better year after year and it looks like trash
I actually disagree, I find the oldschool Runescape graphics very aesthetically pleasing and comfy
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>>580845537
Steam Controllers bros are eating good right now. Although I'll try it with xbox controller as well, I just wonder how they made that work.
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>>580847310
when's the fresh reset, champ
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>>580847375
So nothing will change?
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Next race is going to be furry and then joint efforts between factions, welcome to retail 2.0 AHAHAHA
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>>580847160
that's kinda cool ngl
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they will continue adding paid classes, races, mounts to the shop.
maybe even a boost a year in once they got everyone mazed up.
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>>580846612
I remember those days as well and everyone I know from back then still hates retarded blue gypsies to this day
the issue is that the game has been overrun by retarded normies with no taste and that's who the game has been catering to for the past 15 years
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>>580847273
OSRS does not look like trash. When will you retards realize that art style triumphs?
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>classic andersons mad classic+ isnt exactly what they wanted
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Is there any site that shows all class spells?
I'm not talking about class/legacy talents or racials.
I want to know what mage armor does, for example. I'm curious to know if it only increases resistances and gives mana while casting or if it also reduces the duration of magic debuffs.
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Sod = classic+
Rebirth=sod=classic+

You fell for it/wanted it again award goes to
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we know they stole a bunch of shit from turtle, but did they manage to already steal a bunch of shit from ascension?

the native built in leveling challenges were imo the best feature of BBC+.
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>>580847375
You'll run out of contents 6 weeks in, 2 weeks to level / 1 weeks to farm prebis + prof and 2 weeks of raid logging
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>>580846082
Non-orc warlocks and non-nelf druids never made sense but gameplay shat on the role since day 0.
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>>580847462
It's actually much closer to what I wanted than I ever dreamed it would be. I was sure it was just gonna be vanilla with some random dungeons and quests tacked on.
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>>580847502
>they stole from people who stole from them!!
I'm not going to pretend to care about this
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>>580847528
That is not enough time to level every class.
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I'm not completely happy with forever, but I want to be part of something especially if it's from day 1
Sometimes life is about making the most out of what you get
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>asmon : we're gonna get every streamer on the same serv for content
are you rolling on faerlina 2?
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just logged into MoP classic grobbulus
I am one of two players online and there are no items on the auction house...?
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>>580847502
>BBC+
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>>580847389
retail faggot detected
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>>580847447
>I remember those days as well and every person with autism I know from back then still hates retarded blue gypsies to this day, and we sperg out about it
>the issue is that the game has normal people without mental problems and that's who the game has been catering to for the past 15 years
wow, thats crazy anon. it's almost as if companies do not cater to mentally ill autist spastics. they cater to....normal people?! thats nuts.
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>>580847489
So it's good just like sod?
I need to keep falling for it.
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People are going to be max level in less than 2 weeks and by month 1 every streamer will be done with it
Enjoy lol
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>>580847628
No argument detected
Concession: accepted

fyi, the last time I gave blizzard money was over 15 years ago lmao.
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>>580847621
grobb is a legacy realm, everyone free xfer'd to the active ones
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>>580846082
real smart people aren't atheists
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>>580847661
No they won't
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>>580847553
>Non-orc warlocks
why wouldn't non-orc magic users who had contact with demons be swayed by their power and dedicate themselves to exploring 'forbidden' types of magic?
>non-nelf druids
I agree that this one is retarded and never made any sense whatsoever
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>>580847613
yes and i will spam for an inv to the asmon layer

i WILL relive 2019 and you can't stop me
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>he needs his streamer to play forever
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>>580847613
>15 hour queues
>insane lag
>crashing all the time
>100 layers
no thanks
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cant wait to be a blue elf druid uwu
no i will not toggle classic graphics
no i will not toggle classic ui
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Does anyone else dislike the first name/last name thing? I feel like it makes people's names way less memorable
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>>580847417
I don't care, I'm going to play Forever lol
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>>580847758
>not physical
do you even support blizzard, xis?
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>>580847502
Blizzard should've sued and pressed maximum IP theft charges THEN steal every good idea.
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is racemixy playing forever?
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>>580847706
>No they won't
You said the same about classic.
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>>580847705
I didn't say they were smart, I said they worshipped intelligence the way atheist redditors do
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gnome rogue seems like it's gonna be great with eureka. Do a 18/8/25 with daggers, you should be able to cheapshot, eureka, evis, and get two backstabs in all for 98 energy.

Orc still seems great for PvP, now with mages too. UD not being an immunity kinda sucks though. Tauren are insane though, Troll Regen is nice, but man it feels like Alliance aren't going to be the chumps of PvP in classic a lot considered them to be.

Gnomes seem super strong for casters/rogues, Stoneform still insane even if the rest of dwarf racials seems so underwhelming now, and fear ward shared sucks for their stocks. NE seems no worse or better, but I heard you can use meld in combat now? it just doesn't drop combat for rogues/druids to let re stealth in your face. Though if it counts as a stealth and they can use stealth abilities in that melt that might be cool? Crit buff is nice for nelf, rest is the same. Humans man, stun removal (what is the CD? It doesn't share CD with trinket in this?) perception, the best weapon with 2% to swords, and spirit is damn nice. Also getting hunter is great.

Blue elf racials seem pve fag oriented so I don't care about them. I guess floating druids will be gay in PvP.

I'm pretty much sold on rolling a gnome rogue, even though in the past im almost always horde since vanilla/classic. What about you guys?
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>>580846690
>I still do not understand what the problem is supposed to be with this pic? the controller stuff??
the sad fact this kind of retard is now 99% of classic audience
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>>580847697
reddit spacing
go back
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>>580847809
No I didn't
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Asking as someone who doesn't know much about wow. How would raiding work 5 years down the line when there are 50+ raids and each raid drops something useful? Would guilds be expected ro run 50 raids a week or what?
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>>580847661
thats what streamers do yea
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>>580847725
INV TO ASMON LAYER
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but won't someone PLEASE think of RETAIL bros...
shut up lorecuck nobody cares about retoilet lore
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>>580847758
can't wait to spit on you and kick you from my pugs
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>>580847562
>I was sure it was just gonna be vanilla with some random dungeons and quests tacked on
Well yeah it should have been exactly like this. Now it's just retail, full blown retail to be exact. This garbage isn't even close to classic.
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>>580847165
Karazhan, SSC and BT were kino. Shame about Sunwell but oh well. Still easily the best expansion in the game. Much better than vanilla too.
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>>580847697
its a subjective opinion of taste and appeal, but whatever you say, retail faggot
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>>580847891
>can't wait to spit on you and kick you from my pugs
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>>580847801
>>580847585
>bootlicking microsoft
>on 4chan of all places
huh??

i just wanna know if they will have native challenges, even hardcore will suffice
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>>580847849
Dead mmos like swtor usually have a system where one raid each week gives bonus rewards and/or the highest level gear
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>>580847849
you seem to think that content production wouldn't slow down ever
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Blizzdrones are like Disney adults of gaming.
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>>580847562
>I was sure it was just gonna be vanilla with some random dungeons and quests tacked on.
thats what I wanted
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>>580847891
why do grown ass men act like this lmfao
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>>580847479
https://talentsforever.com/ has some stuff, based on what various streamers showed and only up to the level 38 cap
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>>580847891
>wow did you hear, that anon with autism that no one likes is making a pug!
>WOWOWOW I WANT TO JOIN
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>>580847836
>reddit spacing
Election tourist detected
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>>580847790
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>>580847781
it's also gonna lead to people dividing into two camps
a) pretentious roleplay names
b) cringe joke names
I also don't like the fact that I have to come up with a new two-part name for my character instead of using the same name I've been using for 20 years
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Can anyone confirm/deny whether the world mobs were pushovers? I only ever saw footage of level 1-2 shit and dungeons (and the dungeons seemed fairly still vanilla damage values). I keep seeing people say that the world mobs are like retail's that just fall over. And I did see in the Skyborne starter zone mobs only hitting for 1 for a few minutes, but they were level 1 and then the guy logged out to make a dungeon character.
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>>580847781
>join group
>there are 2 nelf male hunters named Legolas

kino
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>>580847872
skyborne are retoilet lore tho
he's asking a good question, which retoilet is canon?
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>>580847990
>why do grown ass men act like this lmfao
What no pussy does to a mf
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>>580847781
I like it. Trying to come up with a unique name in WoW has always been a terrible experience.
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reminder if you are skytroon I WILL be raping and corpsecamping you until you logout or hop layers, then, I will do the same to your friends
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does forever have the achievements system like r*tail?
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>>580846612
>don't talk about the things you hate
>multi-post tirade about how you hate anyone who's not a disney loving normie
why are you so afraid of constructive criticism? Almost like you know this shit is DoA
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>>580847989
>>580847921
Sucks to be in the minority then, because the overwhelming majority of people wanted class changes, new races and other new content.
Go play your 300 pop private server I guess?
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>>580847641
>if you have a problem with the game you love being turned into a crude mockery of itself in order to appease people who didn't really care about it in the first place then you're a mentally ill loser

ok bro
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>he thinks im playing on a pvp server
lol pve/rp for me
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>>580847781
I'm tired of having character specific names. Just let people see my battletag and save me the effort
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>>580844440
ONE JOB AND THEY FUCK IT UP HAHAHAHAH
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>>580848116
*turns off PVP*
What now, punk?
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So you get limited number of name reserves? Asking for a friend.
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How long will I have to wait until they add Vulpera to WoW Forever?
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>>580848131
yup, enjoy your checklist game, be sure to do your daily chores too
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>>580847994
I hope I'm not being rude, but like I said, what I want to see are class spells, not talents. That site only shows class talents. Thanks for trying to help, though.
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>>580848116
>reminder if you are skytroon I WILL be raping and corpsecamping you until you logout or hop layers, then, I will do the same to your friends

*Keeps PvP toggled permanently off*
You mad? :)
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Odds,
>tauren warrior and nelf hunter
Evens,
>human warrior and tauren hunter
Repeating integers,
>don't play at all
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>>580848196
Hopefully forever
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>>580848136
This post must go hard if you are retarded.
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But... but... but... how am I meant to play this without Draenei females being in the game?
What about muh dick though?
I don't understand...
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>>580848191
Seems to just be 1 looking at the bundles in the store.
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>>580848137
>and other new content
name them
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>>580848005
that was a decade ago, by your own logic you wouldn't be a tourist lol fucking midwit
you deserve everything blizzard shits in your mouth, buddy
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Odds of getting in the beta if i dont paypig the heroic edition?
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>>580848169
Megaserver with warmode most likely
Doubtful there'll be an RP server
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>>580847715
Warlocks are specifically magic users who cast spells that orc warlocks figured out in Draenor.
Medivh made a deal with demons and summoned lots of demons into Azeroth but nobody calls him a warlock because he stuck to lobbing arcane spells.
Illidan was a also a "magic user who had contact with demons and was swayed by their power and dedicated himself to exploring 'forbidden' types of magic" but nobody calls him a warlock either.
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You don't need a name reserved with forced first and last name unless you name yourself something completely retarded like Arthas Menethil.
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>>580848156
You are a mentally ill loser, because you sperg out over a video game. If you had things going on in your life, it wouldnt matter to the extend of you sperging out about it. So, you either need to fix your life, or you are an autistic sperg loser that needs meds.
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>>580848387
>most likely
Based on what?
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>>580847389
It's ported Trannyflight bullshit, which means the sky elves are inherently going to be the pozzing that pozz-Blizz insists upon pushing into WoWF.
Which tells all of us that WoWF will have woke faggotry insisting dev team members.
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>>580848304
zones, raids, professions, maybe even classes.

sorry you are living in the last decade anon but #nochanges has been dead for a long time. No one is interested in playing stock vanilla except you and the rest of the 300 people playing your shitty private server.
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>>580844571
I swear you faggots are so retarded its impossible. Gook poster and others anons kept trying to warn you that Blizzard is incapable of making a Classic+ for years and that whatever you ended up getting was just going to be retail lite but you retarded faggots kept INSISTING for a Classic+ by Blizzard and you rightfully got a steaming pile of shit. I swear this hobby has too many fucking idiots.
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>>580848294
Ikr
how am I supposed to jerk off to blue asses and titties if they don't have horns, hooves and a tail?
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>>580848387
>Doubtful there'll be an RP server
confidently incorrect anon strikes again, they already showed the server layouts pvp/pve/rp/hardcore
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>>580848303
On one server or is the name yours forever?
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>>580848437
The screenshot you replied to looks good. Cry about it.
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I want to roll an RP realm after watching Barny's Scarab Lord Adventures.
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dwarf racials seem lackluster? human and orc busted, gnome and forsaken as well to an extent. was hoping for dwarf shaman and got it so I will be rolling that regardless but its really bugging my min max tism.
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>>580848189
>>580848237
I made you turn off pvp. I am the victor. Afterward, I will follow you and continue to spam /rofl, virtually and mentally raping you.
When you turn it back on, I will be there again.
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>>580848137
Reddit isn't majority. Blizzard bombarding social media with bots isn't majority. Retoilet "people" from /wowg/ raiding classic general for funsies isn't majority. All of them won't play this garbage, this fake hype won't last and you know it.
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>2 new class and race combinations
What are we hoping for?
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>roll tauren because i like being a cow
>get told i have to spam a+d like a freak while turning in quests and vendoring shit to keep my plainsriding stacks rolling

unironically what were they thinking this is gonna be so cancer
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>>580848434
>classes
may I see these $30 classes?
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>>580848352
0.00000001%
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>>580848407
>hehe I'm arguing with you about this thing on the internet, but actually I don't care about it at all which makes me morally superior
kys
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>>580848490
surely they buff them soon
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NOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WNAT TO PRESS MORE THAN ONE BUTTON AND THINK ABOUT MECHANICS IN MOLTEN CORE WHAT DO YOU MEAN REVAMPED
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>orc
>male
>warrior
>rppvp server
>first name elf
>last name enjoyer
>spend my days killing all faget elfs
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>>580848528
Did anyone show how plainsrunning works?
What's the max speed/ramp up like?
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>>580848523
They will probably just slowly add all the cata combos over time.
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>>580848523
HAHAHA EVEN THE ROADMAP LOOKS LIKE RETAIL
NO THANK YOU LMAO
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We were robbed
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I'm going to buy the 80€ version (to get the forever beta and wc3 reforged+dlc for new lore).
I'll drop invite codes in october here so that some of you can check wow forever for a week for free when it comes out
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>>580847891
Based. I'm not going to invite any skytroons either lol. Maybe they can ask Blizzard to host a civil rights event after I rape them in /w.
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>>580848429
>incoherent culture war screeching

lol ok anon, I bet if you keep spamming this frothing at the mouth ranting you will wake up the sheeple to the pozz-spiracy.

The rest of us will simply enjoy playing the new game without worrying about how a random model of a wild animal somehow signals the impending fall of western civilization though.
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>>580846507
he's right

wow forever is perfectly built to milk conditioned goycattle like >>580846720 who don't actually like video games but still feel the need to spend their time and money on it so they can "fit in" with twitch zoomers and nostalgia uncs.
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>>580848352
0 it exists to give elusion of chance and fomo purchase after not getting selected
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>>580848398
medivh and illidan are godlike superpowered beings who are beyond the standard class divisions
mere mortals who dabble with demon magic are called warlocks
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>>580848523
They are gonna give Tauren priests and or paladins
Maybe troll druid again
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>>580848523
Not dh
thats it
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>>580848523
skyborne priest and skyborne warlock
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>>580848523
Yep it's retail all over again
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>>580848585
>I'm not mentally ill or autistic or insufferable
>Triggered hard by the realisation that he has no life and wow is everything for him.
>Tells you to kill yourself over a video game
pottery.
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>>580848523
>trying to hype up new race class combos after everyone already leveled

how about just let every race be every class if you're going to have fucking undead paladins
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>>580844440
>horizontal progression
>no new talents, levels, spells
>once you got an epic item at 60 this is it (no matter where it comes from - its your BIS)
>only thing you can still farm is mog and items for other specs

Will they really copy the GW 2 system or at least do some kind of gear progression?
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>>580847849
Eventually people will get everything they need from older raids/dungeons and they are forgotten about only to be ventured into once in a blue moon when a guild is bored one night and wants to do a drunken expedition.
But that's assuming blizzard won't go ahead and raise the level cap after 3 years, or they'll keep a pace of 5+ raids a year (latter being impossible).
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>>580848721
No it's not
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I just woke up, are doomchads or hopechads winning?
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>>580848523
orc priest and night elf warlock
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>>580845497
The Undead were always the red headed step child of the Horde, and the least liked among the four races within it, it's just that they need each other, Horde gains their weird chemical experiment shit, a foot hold in a far off land and just generally durable soldiers while the Undead has some back up to avoid the alliance just steamrolling them
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Here's my shit take. After events of Warcraft 3 Night Elves and Forsaken are still two independent factions.

>Divided
They can't endure alone. There's a split in both factions. Some join Alliance, some join Horde. For drama Alliance Night Elves are lead by Tyrande and Horde Night Elves by Malfurion. Sylvanas leads Alliance Forsaken, that one dreadlord I don't remember the name of could lead Horde Forsaken.

>Primal vs Progress
All Night Elves join Horde and faction is entirely focused on primal natural forces, spirits etc. All forsaken join Alliance since Lordaeron honors old alliance of kingdoms in death as they did in life, and entire faction now becomes focused on aggressive expansion.

>Four Factions
Fuck it. Fuck balance. Fuck everything. Warcraft 3 factions. Night Elves remain independent, Forsaken remain independent. How it works in practice? What about classes? Fuck if I know. Alliance would have paladins, Horde would have shamans, Sentinels would have druids, Forsaken would have Death knights, I don't know.
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>>580848720
priest ally, warlock horde. Kino.
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>>580848610
30% is the max speed. It ramps up VERY SLOWLY and drains VERY QUICKLY if you hold still or get hit. It's definitely designed to help with those long runs through the barrens.

It also doesn't stack with other movement boosts like aspect of the cheetah. We can see our speed stat directly on our character stat screen now.
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>>580848610
i think its 2 and a half min to get to the max 30%
and it falls off a lot faster
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so aimed shot is baseline and sniper shot is unlocked through the MM talent tree, don't they feel extremely redundant? stand still 3 seconds to cast aim shot and then 4 for sniper shot, at this point i would've preferred if they just gave us chimera shot from wotlk.
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>>580848748
Hopechads won. WoW Forever won.
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>>580848479
>t.the exact fucking moron i'm talking about
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>>580848654
Nothing more could be expected from a Britbong.
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>>580848610
30% max speed. Takes like 2 minutes to hit max speed or something.
Lose stacks if you take damage or stand still
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Retail tranny furries won, Forever is retailished vanilla
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>>580848409
Because no one wants to play on a dead realm.
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>>580848523
>they don't want to release forever hardcore immediately so that all their paid streamer shills have to be stuck playing and promoting the normal version for 2 months after release
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>watch the Quesa video
>rambling about military grade AI in the first 2 minutes
missed this schizo
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>>580848523
>hardcore months later
Not a hardcore player, but.... why?
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>>580848748
hopechads are winning. kungen is sending his wife away for a month and going all in on forever
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Your reminder, anons.
>You are not normal.
>You are not mentally stable.
>People HATE you.
>No one will miss you not being in wow; forever.
>The game will be better off without you in it.
Bye! Have a beautiful time!
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>>580848824
Cool. Still playing WoW Forever!
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Are Dwarf shamans in?
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>>580848748
doombvlls are awaiting their coronation
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>>580845592
necromancer of course
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It's me. I'm the target audience. Retail chad.
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Does Plainswalking stack with a form like Ghostwolf?
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>>580848849
>30% max speed. Takes like 2 minutes to hit max speed or something.
>Lose stacks if you take damage or stand still
This is useless beyond level 40.
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>>580848523
dwarf warlock and something for horde
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>>580848859
This but there's literally nothing from vanilla, it's just different flavor of retoilet
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>>580844850
Browns are redeeming 3 tokens rn after this 4chan shitpost.
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>>580848523
gnome druid and orc paladin
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Usually Barny isn't this much of a retard is she?
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>>580848880
need the parasocial bux to do their thing once the initial hype dies down
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>>580848490
Stoneform is still always going to be amazing but they definitely gave a ton of goodies to other races. Gnome and Orc look especially busted.
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>>580848523
Why can't these retards do HC right? Hardcore was supposed to be a self imposed challenge. It was best on Turtle and when it was just an addon on Era where it was a shared experience with normal players. No one wants to do hardcore raids like a retarded jackass. Hardcore should be something you can opt into on a normal server and then when you hit 60 you get a little title or cheevo or some shit and then you get to play regularly with everyone. I will never waste my time playing Blizzard's dumb fuck hardcore server just to sit at 60 and do fuck all because I cant pvp or trust anyone in a dungeon/raid or trust blizz servers to not DC so I dont have my time and life wasted
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SOVL vs soulless
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>>580848523
>>580848623
>>580848721
>>580848746
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What faction are you rolling?
What class are you rolling?
Will you speedrun or take it slow and comfy?
What're you playing in the meantime?
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>>580848952
>This is useless beyond level 40.
Except for hunters. If a hunter at max plainstalking stacks jumps you in the wild you are just fucked. You'll never get close enough to hit them
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what female race should i roll if i want to grind erp points?
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>>580848859
I hate this fucking world I can only hope for an ice age
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>>580848523
HC not being on launch is so lame and doesn't make sense, it's literally just hitting a switch for them, why does Blizzard continue to act like adding HC is a huge complex system to implement. I want my main to have the HC honor/title, not make an alt just to do it then never touch the alt again
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>>580848992
Can I be a paladin though?
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>>580848992
He's actually right though because they explicitly say the sky elves are derived from the high elves in the trailer.
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>>580848727
who are you quoting?
>>
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>>580848992
Guess HE has skipped out on retail enough to not know retards have been making this argument with Void Elves for a decade.
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>Wanted to go warlock
>Havoc is literally the worst playstyle

rip
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>>580847256
>campsites are literally a copied idea from turtle with the tents
Tents gave rested exp
What I'm referring to are campsites from TERA. A player could place a campfire, party members would gather around it and could use the sit emote. Players could throw charms/cards into the campfire, producing buffs for everyone gathered around it. The buffs could include offensive/defensive/stat bonuses and lasted for a limited time. The campfire system was commonly used while recovering between fights, including in instances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7VXVYGyaoo
>everyone said the mobs are now easier just like in retail
I specified parts of the overworld, as in, dangerous areas crawling with elites. Like the
Mo'grosh Stronghold in northeastern Loch Modan. FFXI was notorious for having an extremely difficult overworld. It forced players to work together, creating a very rememberable experience and community.

All of the language they used during the presentation hinted at this.
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>>580849046
>What faction are you rolling?
Don't know yet, will decide later.
>What class are you rolling?
Don't know yet, will decide later.
>Will you speedrun or take it slow and comfy?
Comfy, but at a decent pace.
>What're you playing in the meantime?
Beta, to decide what I'm rolling and maybe trying out that w3 campaign.
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>>580849046
Alliance
Dwarf Rogue (or Hunter) for my all dwarf RP-PVP guild.
Slow and comfy. Prioritizing PVP over leveling.
Nothing I'm studying for my cyber security certs.
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>>580849046
not playing some goyslop troon shit
private forever
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>>580849035
No idea what this is but top looks infinitely better.
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>>580848523
>play up to level 30
Wait they're not going to reset progress between the beta and launch?
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>>580848523
>>580848623
>>580848721
Meanwhile retail
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>>580849123
XDDDD hory sheeeeet
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>>580849035
blizz version is infinitely better lmao
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The worst and most disappointing thing about WoW Forever is the fact there's all these new lore breaking class and race combination, but blizzard didn't go the extra mile and make new classes for them, like the dwarf shaman should be a runesmith and the totems should be conjured stone runes on the ground
the troll warlock should have been a troll vodoo master
etc etc etc
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>>580848992
>she
kys
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>>580848131
its more of a checklist, none of them seem to be tied to specific challenges like some retail chievos are. they are all like

"level this class to 60"
"level this profession"
"do X amount of quests"
"fully explore this continent"
"complete this dungeon/raid"
"get exalted with X"
"get X pvp rank"

and its all account wide. there are 66 points in total to max so far and 61 spots to put the points in with 2 slots in each tree not revealed yet. only a small minority of the talents are useful at max level so its mostly QoL stuff while leveling (other than the talent one which straight up accelerates your power)
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>>580849123
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>>580848268
you got a response besides crying about it then loser?
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>>580849220
retail roadmops mogs our roadmap forever bros...
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>>580848810
Sniper shot is increased physical damage, it will obliterate clothies even harder than aimed shot. More of an opener/ambush/trap shot than something weaved into the rotation I guess. Unless tier sets massively reduce the cooldown or allow it to instant proc.
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>>580849020
>I want to be 1 guy roleplaying among normal players instead of everyone around me having the same stakes
I don't get it.
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>we want blizzard to listen to what people want!
>blizzard adds things that were popular in other servers that were c+
>NO NOT LIKE THAT WHY ARE YOU COPYING! DO NOT COPY!
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>>580849219
retard
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>>580849274
NTA but it seems like you're the one crying here
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>>580848992
>she
he's a paid shill, he has to say it's good or they wont give him the money he needs to keep trooning out
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>>580849293
These people would complain no matter what Blizzard unveiled.
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>>580849258
I mean they never bothered to do this for undead priests in the first place
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We need Demon Hunters
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Forever is basically for retail players wanting a "I played vanilla" badge and you cannot change my mind
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>>580849290
Not all HC players are roleplaying
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>>580849293
its like people forgot blizzard used to take other peoples concepts and make them better
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>>580848931
no soda tried it yesterday with cheetah it doesnt stack
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>>580844571
World of Warcraft: Retail Reborn
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>>580849274
>cries
>NO IM NOT CRYING YOU ARE CRYING
Like I said, you must be retarded.
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>>580849137
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>>580849092
So they have something to create hype once everyone is bored with main game.
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>>580848992
did barny actually troon
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>>580849406
it's nothing like retail though?
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>>580849386
Not in the literal sense you turboautist.
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>>580849035
gay vs okay
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>>580849437
Yes he's been looney for quite a long time now
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>>580849437
yea like 5 years ago
have you been living under a rock?
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>>580848992
how big's barnys cawk
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>>580849440
it's everything like retail though?
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>>580849398
100% wow originally was taking what current mmos did and just made it better, which is what made it so fucking good.
>>580849368
these spergs will never be happy, because their lifes have only 1 thing in it; a video game. also they are insufferable spergs.
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>hate leveling
>getting my first character to 60 will take over 100 hours because it won't have boosts like sod did
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Going to be real, regardless of how valid or not issues/complaints for Forever is, I think we have to accept this is literally the best modern Blizzard can do.
This isn't a situation where if we were to say, boycott Forever in hopes it pushes them to try harder and make something better, I don't think they are capable of doing better, does that mean you HAVE to swallow this? No, but the idea that if you argue and refuse to support it that it will lead to something better is kind of a fool's notion here
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>>580849437
I don't think he got his peepee removed or anything.
He's femboy maxing
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>>580849178
We need Elin, Miqote, and Rava Viera in Forever so bad bros...
Do you think Blizzard would introduce crossovers to Forever? After all, this game is Forever and they can do anything! Even add stupid looking knife-eared Fish People.
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>>580849521
no it's not
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>>580848992
barny posted any nudes?
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tranny classic devs already failed and the game isn't even out yet
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>>580849530
>hate leveling
>play the leveling mmo
Nigger
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>>580849370
Forsaken
FTFY
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so if you preorder and buy the good goy edition you get a mount that likely scales so you can save 1k gold when you hit 60?
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>>580849440
What's classic about it?
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>claims leveling the entire point of classic
>complains about not being able to be max level in an hour
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>>580847706
>>580847847
>>580848746
>>580849565
is this a bot?
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>>580849262
i have a feeling if its allowed, people will be raiding in beta pretty quick
theres speedrunners who can get a mage to 60 in less than 72 hours easily with these talents
so they can run ony maybe day three if all content is open
that means by the time the beta is over the game will be basically minmaxed
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>>580849530
retail exists for gormless retards like you
>>
Should I join a 4chan guild?
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>>580849565
yes it is
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>>580849568
cattle ITT will tell you that
>no this actually fits into vanilla!!!
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>beta is capped at 38
>we want your first mount to be important and impactful
i bet theres some questline shit at 40 for your mount with some meta thing involved, like a big quest reward or something.
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>>580849595
everything
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>>580849561
But we already have elin at home
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>>580849437
troons should all just start slutting out and post their assholes for the world to see, it's the only useful thing they have left to offer to the world anymore
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>>580849530
While leveling will obviously be long it should be less painful than regular vanilla since we have so many more new quests to do.
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>>580849617
Most likely Blizzard employee but could be bot as well.
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>>580849646
Yes, join Clover Club, we finished all the content in classic into WoTLK, have movie nights, and good banter
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>>580849497
i havnt touched wow since sod and havnt touched /wowcg/ since 2020. I know barny more as a dota 2 player than a wow player but that was legit a decade ago
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>>580849646
no
look at trannypsg if you want to see what happens
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>>580846757
>no extra range
>longer cast time than any bow's weapon speed
>flat damage increase instead of %
I don't understand the point of sniper shot. Isn't this going to always be a dps loss if you have a modicum of gear?
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>>580849530
I'll be surprised if it takes that long with all the power creep and convenience and new quests added
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>samefagging about some literal who tranny from twitter
kys
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>>580849315
>>580849421
>no u
pathetic, I cry for humanity because bad faith brainlets like you exist
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>>580849646
yeah and then leave once you find a raid spot
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>>580849670
beta is capped to 30, why are you motherfuckers so illiterate
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>>580849647
nope, it's Classic+
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>>580849646
Never.
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>>580849730
>I cry for humanity
LMAO. I repeat myself. This post must've gone hard in your head, but you are retarded and autistic. Get a life.
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>>580849712
Seems like it's meant for pvp to blast fags who are stuck in your freezing trap.
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glad classic+ looks bad, just means I am not missing out on anything cool
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>>580849534
You should already be boycotting till they fire the HR HAG SQUAD and start hiring straight white men that want to push out a competent product and not a humiliation ritual
>>
will warrior tauren players ask for 2.5min pull timers so they can stack their plainsriding and get to the boss slightly faster than the other melees or is that too autistic you think
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>>580849830
It looks pretty good actually.
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>>580849568
HIGH ELF WILL NEVER EVER BE A PLAYABLE RACE WHY DONT YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND THIS YET ITS BEEN 20 FUCKING YEARS AS THE MOST OBVIOUS CHOICE AS A PLAYABLE RACE BUT ITS NEVER HAPPENED NEVER HINTED AS GONNA HAPPEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ZIP ZILCH NADA
it simply will never happen
ur more likely to have murlocs or fucking slimes as a playable race at this point
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>humans: can remove stuns
>gnomes: can do a trillion more damage
>tauren: can plant peaceblooms
Is this a joke? Taurenbros? This can't be happening???????????????
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>>580849427
DAMN
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will they add the wow token?
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"Horizontal progression" is a ticking time bomb that is going to destroy forever
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Gnome will either be nerfed or its going to be the most played race for both pve and pvp. Their racials are fucking insanely overpowered.
>10% damage and reduced cost on 3 abilities
>make yourself immune to slows and roots for a duration
>engineering shit wont backfire as much
>rage, energy and mana increased
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>>580849870
Tauren got plainsrunning and +1% hit rating on top of their original racials.
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>>580849849
You know warriors can charge right?
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>WoW forever is just retail pretending to be classic
Not even one day and it's already over.
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>>580849707
is this a dude? I have to know before I save it.
also
>.mp4
what the fuck you can upload those to 4chan now?
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>>580849617
Seems like hopechads won and you're seething about it
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i dont want to alarm anyone but classic forever is epic
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>>580849979
Just wait for Guild Wars 3
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>>580849863
>HIGH ELF WILL NEVER EVER BE A PLAYABLE RACE WHY DONT YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND THIS YET ITS BEEN 20 FUCKING YEARS AS THE MOST OBVIOUS CHOICE AS A PLAYABLE RACE BUT ITS NEVER HAPPENED NEVER HINTED AS GONNA HAPPEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ZIP ZILCH NADA
>it simply will never happen
>ur more likely to have murlocs or fucking slimes as a playable race at this point
calm down, you're going to bust a stitch
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Blizz shills on mass damage control for their exposed inhability to comprehend the reality that they are being played
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>>580850046
epic version of retail yeah
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>>580849824
>>580849712
Yep for blasting people in a freezing trap
Openers, ambush shot etc
Likely the damage bonus will increase with different spell rank/player levels and may get cast speed/cool down decreases from tier set bonuses
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>>580849617
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DISAGREE WITH ME YOU HAVE TO SAY CLASSIC+ BAD OR ELSE YOU'RE A BOT
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>>580849995
>10% damage and reduced cost on 3 abilities
I ASSUME this is off the gcd like most racials but did anyone see streamers use it to confirm?
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The only reason people are on board with this shit rather than rightfully shitting on it is because they're so fucking desperate for it to work that they can't see how lame this is.

Game is still solved.
What they should have done is redone every single dungeon in the game in the same way that they did with SoD. That way they would have been familiar but fresh.

We needed a new class. We didn't get one.
We needed two new races, instead we got one and it fucks sucks. People wanted to play Ogre's/Nagas. Instead we got some gay disney elf for lazily made for both races.

We needed more substantial talent changes. All my classes/specs still suck ass (I'm a hipster and I play meme shit, you know, the thing they were supposed to be making viable. Guess what? they're still shit).
The talent changes, despite people saying they're crazy different are miniscule.

They were supposed to balance out racials. Instead they just all the alliance races godly and gave horde a nice serving of shit. Alliance gets a bunch of crit, stun immunity, hit and damage racials. Horde can spawn a Peacebloom every 2 hours. Real fucking nice, real fucking subtle.

I wanted Classic but reimagined. I've already played the original classic a billion times now, I'm not going to even pretend to be happy about running DM and WC and SFK again for the billionth time, for this to have worked they HAD to have been changed, but they ain't.

We got duped by mediocrity yet again.
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>>580849870
if this scales and you get passive silversage, dreamfoil, plaguebloom, ghost mushroom, or groms blood it might be pretty nice actually
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era players crashing out because forever isnt exactly what they want is great, they'll be playing the beta thursday like everyone else
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>>580849821
you want a spot in my fanclub or what lil bro?
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>>580850095
it's not retail, it's Classic+
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Retail BVLLS are laughing at us saying Forever will be EoS within a year
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>>580849979
yeah im really curious to see what this looks like in 1 year
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It's just classic retail and that's on purpose they don't want to recreate vanilla, they want to change their classic audience into a retail one, because they're more willing to spend money and don't have very high standards.
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>>580850187
It's nothing like retail though?
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>>580849046
I started this game as a human male warlock
I shall do the same.
I will take a month to hit 60, and I'll love it.
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>>580850113
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>>580850160
>>580850046
>>580849780
Why is he like this?
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>>580849046
>What faction are you rolling?
alliance
>What class are you rolling?
priest then shaman
>Will you speedrun or take it slow and comfy?
speedrun on my priest comfy RP on my shaman
>What're you playing in the meantime?
My guitar.
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>>580850113
>People wanted to play Ogre's/Nagas
Like 0.25% of players want to play as ogres/naga u faggots are even less common than the people who want to play as murlocs lmfao
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>>580850104
it's called making an argument you post op zombie freak
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>>580849646
4chan hasn't been good for guilds in a decade. Last good guilds were <Shrek> in /wpsg/ (Salty Dogs on nost was alright, but shit once classic released) and <This Game is So Hard> in /wowg/ during legion. /wpsg/ guilds like Clover Club still clear content, but it's because it's easy as hell anyway the real problem is it's full of grooming trannies. Just find a normalfag guild that has a somewhat funny or edgy name. You are playing Classic so odds are 9/10 times that guild will be full of 4chan humor boomers who don't mind when an N bomb is dropped
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>>580850239
>anyone who isn't dooming must be the same person
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>>580844863
This message was funded by Night Media™
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>>580850187
if they wanted to do that they shouldve put more effort into mop classic
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>>580850113
>We needed a new class. We didn't get one.
We didn't need that
>We needed two new races
Agree, I woulda gone with 3 personally. Nuetral High elf then goblin/ogre horde and something else for alliance
>We needed more substantial talent changes
Some trees got change too much and some not enough I feel. Too hard to judge this early what it feels like though.
>They were supposed to balance out racials. Instead they just all the alliance races godly and gave horde a nice serving of shit
Taurens and Trolls won big time on racials man. Alliance did seem to get a better deal overall though
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>>580849178
I don't know I haven't played Tera but conceptually it's the same idea of having a camping/tent mechanic that encourages players to sit around in a place until they are buffed up (whether it's restedxp or something else) so it seems pretty obvious they took inspiration from turtle after seeing how most people liked the tents thing. But maybe they took inspiration from that game too.
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>>580844571
>noo it's not retail at all
are these all posters just blizz bots, you can't tell the difference apart
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>>580850254
Your poll was an outlier, we've seen this before just a couple weeks ago
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>>580850113
>What they should have done is redone every single dungeon in the game in the same way that they did with SoD.
wait they not doing that? wtf i thought that was the entire point
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>>580849123
Not even their icons fit
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why are you shilling for ugly as fuck races you yourself would not play
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If SoD was WotLK- then Forever is SoD-. Did people really not like all the new spells and shit? This seems so dumbed down.
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>>580850113
playable naga would literally be a bigger lore rape than sky elves.

naga have never been anything but hostile and their entire existence is ultimately the result of old god fuckery and/or azshara's fuckery who is another unambiguous villain.
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Blizzard employees, they found out it's just retail in disguise.

What are we going to do now?!
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>>580850113
Fair points, but a lot of people just wanted classic with better balance. Capped at 60, no flying mounts, druids that can Rezz, hybrid specs that go OOM ASAP, new dungeons and raids. That's all pretty good. Chinese pandering race, monetization, greed, lazy talents are worrisome, but you can't expect more from Blizzard, shit company for a long time now.
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>>580850254
How do you know they wouldntve been popular once added
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any nost frends
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imagine being the team that made a UI so universally disliked people would rather have one from 25 years ago made on windows XP
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>>580850302
Anyone who thought they would give a shit for post wotlk classic expansions is honestly retarded, they probably saw the complete nose dive of pop for cata and just threw in the towel. It was never happening.
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>>580850372
I can see a reality where the Naga that went with the blood elves in Frozen Throne could have been horde viable.
I measure all race viability against the worst vanilla option lore wise being forsaken for horde.
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>>580850401
that don't go OOM*
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>>580845296
They can start to cycle content like they do in Retail
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>>580850435
Because most wow players are stupid but they aren't that stupid
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if I have to fight over mob tags then I'm not playing it
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>>580849870
How does this even work?
Does the cow just shit them out?
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>>580850113
>Horde can spawn a Peacebloom every 2 hours.
I kek'd uncontrollably
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>new zones
okay thats pretty nice
>new dungeons
alright, yeah thats good
>talent reworks
about time.
>new elf race and their zone
uhhhh... what?
>completely revamped racials for existing classes
some of these seem broken
>actually read the new talents
some of these are barely changed wtf?
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>>580850478
man, windows xp was the shit. everything really used to be better huh
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>>580849046
Horde for gaming, alliance nelf alt for gooning
Either shaman or wlock zugzug, hunter
Slow and comfyish, but I'll probably be a NEET during launch so we'll see.
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>>580850372
then make a splinter naga faction like they did for blueberries
GOTCHA, see it's easier to asspull playable naga than it is to justify another reskinned elves with down turned ear tips
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>half assed shaman tank
>no rogue tank
sad, was really hoping for some SoD tank specs they were fun
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Didn't Rich get outed as a sex-pest or something? How come he's hanging out with Asmon again?
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>>580850472
I only played Turtle. Tanked Molten Core and quit. The guild I was in later went on to do realm first Karazhan when that came out years later lol
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Why did Aggrend rugpull us? SoD feels more vanilla than this shit.
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Wanna know why I don't get so upset over the blue elfs? Or the game being RETAIL? Simple. I have other things going for me in life. I'm more invested in how to progressively overload my lifts at the gym, I can bench 2 plates now, feelsgoodman. I also have my job that takes up my energy, and my friends and family that I love and love me back. This video game is a hobby, I'm not gonna spazz out over it. It's not THAT important. Why can't you be normal?
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>>580850638
He's a jew, they have a hall pass on that stuff
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>>580845497
In the very early conceptual phase of WoW (1999) a third evil faction made of undead, naga and dark elf was planned but eventually scrapped
They really liked the story they wrote for the undead tho, so they kept them and shoehorned them into the Horde, as previous Horde iteration did had already undeads in their ranks
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>faggots actually wanted to play as fat ogres and niggas
state
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Do we know if windfury totem is in the game? I hope they're sensible and remove it.
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>>580850551
it's only gonna be like that for the first week or two when all the sweaty nerds are gonna be leveling their mains
after that I suspect you'll be able to level normally
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WoW Forever Deep Dive at 1pm EST /v/ros!
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>>580850472
yeah
i had some pics of redridge raiding but theyre gone now
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>>580850638
because she admitted in court to making all that shit up
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convince me that Horde are not a raped demographic this time around
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>>580850562
We used to call it Warbloom, but then metzen had a daughter.
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>>580850702
It is and it's party bound and it has a 2 yard effect range.
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>>580850638
/ourguy/ did his time, stfu
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>>580850659
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So does the game allow modding like xiv yet or it's still shit and fake hype by abusive bli$$ard
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>>580850659
Iktf fellow life haver. I'm getting married shortly after launch and don't mind being left behind the curve even.
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>>580850621
Except that does nothing to resolve the fact that naga have an inherently evil alignment being the product of old gods/azshara. There's zero reason to believe they would suddenly become cooperative with the horde or alliance or even want to do that.
You might as well be asking for playable qiraji.
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>>580850695
+0,01 rupee added to your account
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>>580849707
How can I get invited?
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>>580850329
>it seems pretty obvious they took inspiration from turtle
TERA launched in 2011
Turtle launched in 2018
The absolute chad giving the presentation said that players would gather around a campfire to gain a buff and JUST MAYBE talk to one another, which was the exact idea in TERA.
Turtle died, you don't have to shill for Shenna anymore 'nonny. I promise!
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>>580850714
>Deep dive into a pile of shit
I hope they open with another crying foid.
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>>580849534
i wouldn't boycott because that will lead to them changing their hearts or something, the best i could hope is their bankruptcy but ofc that won't happen either

ppl are blind atm because classic+ is something everyone really wanted for a long time, but if you look deeply there's already corruption on it's roots, that overtime will spread and become even more visible (when the server is fresh ppl don't care much about bots/rmt, but over time it compounds)

i'd boycott to avoid this future frustration, there tons of other things to dump your time/money on, and there are unlimited ways to have fun out there, you don't need to pay blizzard for that. so even if the server turn out to be "ok" i'd feel no regret/fomo, i KNOW theres fun to be had there, specially on fresh start and reuniting with friends, but fun isn't hard to find out there.
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>>580850820
What do you mean? The game looks really good.
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>>580850638
he was vindicated in court.
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>beta only goes to level 30
>lasts for over a month
honestly kinda sad. i was hoping we could at least level to max
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>>580850638
99% of sexual shenanigans claims by women are made up
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>>580850714
That's like in 3 and half hours? Wake me up when it's time.
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I think I may start a WoW Forever YouTube channel on the side for some side cash.

I got a good idea.
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>>580850792
Did you even play Frozen Throne?
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>>580850128
It's going to be something like a 1 hour cooldown ability that gives you a random herb like those marrowgrain satchels and it's going to give you peacebloom and other pointless trash most of the time and be an annoying chore you have to do every 1 hour (it might even have some animation) while also plummeting the value of herbs because there will be a trillion bots doing it every single hour without fail.
While you have this annoying crap, other races get stuff like 'REMOVE STUN' or 'extra damage and mana' and other wild stuff.
We got cucked hard here. It's a bad day for my tauren brothers and sisters.
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>>580850492
i dont know why anyone kept playing raids have been bugged since day 1 literal months
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skytroon spotted? time to rape, and kill, and maim until you turn pvp off for good. lmao.
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>>580850786
congrats brother. I'm still single, but not sad about it. I'm happy with life and I'm sure it will happen for me soon. I dont mind being behind on leveling either, being consistent at the gym and doing well at my job and seeing my friends and family is more important than a video game. I will still have fun playing a 1 or 2 hours a day though.
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if you were asked a year ago
>where is this image from? classic+ or retail?
what would you have answered with? be honest.
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>>580848523
>2 new class and race combinations
I WANT TO PLAY TAUREN PALLY ON LAUNCH! STOP TRYING TO GET ME TO PAY FOR CLASS SWAP YOU NIGGERS!
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>>580850920
Shut up and pick your grass, cattle
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>>580850920
1% hit chance is pretty good though come on
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>>580850792
>You might as well be asking for playable qiraji.
Well I mean, now that you mention it... I do want that.
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>>580850792
make a third faction then, when did you start caring about things making sense, twenty minutes ago, playable naga makes more sense than another safe horny fanfiction set of woke elves
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GUYS OPTIMAL EXP ROUTE
GUYS DO MYY THEORYCRAFTING FOR ME PLS
GUYS WHERE ARE THE ADDONS THAT PLAY THE GAME FOR ME
GUYS WHATS MY BIS
GUYS WHICH DUNGEONS TO SKIP ON X CLASS
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>>580850971
I wouldve said
>It's a video game, It's not that important. Who cares?
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>>580850792
>being the product of old gods/azshara.
bro I have bad news
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>>580850702
Reminder that SoD fixed the mandatory shaman in every group issue.
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>>580850714
too far im not going to make it
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so is the game going to have the original classic stories and quests too or are they entirely revamping everything and it wont have the classic quests? sorry i wasnt super clear on that
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>>580850903
did he play tbc, does he know who lady vashj is lol does he know serpentshrine cavern exists lol
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>>580850952
Don't be sad about being single, u still have all the free time to do whatever you want kek
Relationships are a ball and chain
But the one true boomer wisdom is the old saying can't live with them can't live without them
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>>580850971
it doesn't matter
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>Sudden uptick of "who cares" posts with the rise of AI
Too bad your chat bot can't play your game and pay for a sub.
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>>580850472
did play on nostalrius myself, even though it was incomplete people were pretty coordinated there
pic unrelated twow
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>>580850989
I'm curious, if conventionally attractive elf women are now a woke psyop against your male sexuality, what would you consider an acceptable level of horny to not be "safe"? Do they all need G cup tits and baboon asses and to walk around in a thong with pasties 24/7?
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>>580850971
I would have spotted the low textures and trick question and confidently answered classic+
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>>580851093
classic +1K quests
I do imagine some of them will be recycled however
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>>580851116
Nope, not sad. Dooming is for losers. We never doom. Only hope and joy.
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>>580850971
Classic+. It looks nothing like retail.
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>>580847872
>>580848089
Oblivious that they dont want to pull the "alfernate timeline" trigger yet because they arent excluding the idea of shoehorn Forever lore into Retail eventually
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Why couldn't the reskin have been of my futa spacegoat waifus...
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>>580851067
nothing to fix
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>>580850971
The lightning in the classic world is fucking peak fiction though. Retail Andy btw hyped for when they add that to retail too
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>>580850971
The text on screen is retail looking, but if you look at the architecture it's clearly Classic
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IMO, the Blood Elf Female Models are too shrimpy and have weak facial structure.

Night Elf women and Troll women do it better because they have an Amazonian sort of thing to them. Tall woman always mogs short shrimpy woman.
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With how many people will be playing at the beginning won't it be better to dungeon grind up to SM or something?
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>>580849534
retard all they had to do was add a prestige system that resets you in increasingly difficult servers once you hit 60, it's right there in the fucking name, classic+ should be mythic+ but for the entire game as a whole (and without a time limit)

I'm not sure if they actually just didn't think of that or what, but this is just another rugpull, the name "forever" is just the cherry on top
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>>580851131
>>580851019
see
>>580850384
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>>580850329
The only thing Turtle incentivized was having a slum in capital cities.
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>>580851252
Alliance will kill their firstborn child for a shaman in every raid group.
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>>580847818
I'm thinking tauren hunter, fucking around with plainsrunning sounds entertaining to me.
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>>580851131
Source?
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Any pics of new talent trees, abilities or crafting recipes?
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>>580851184
so ive never played classic. i started wow in tww, so im fairly new. i know i can play through the classic zones but they were revamped from cata. are those the same quests too or are the zones entirely different? i wanted to level a character while i waited and i didnt want to double dip on the same quests
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>>580851159
ahh the porn argument deflection strawman, how's everyone over at r/gamingcirclejerk doing
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>>580849219
i might be retarded too but i can't find info about this
i assume it won't reset tho
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>>580851385
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/warrior
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>>580851206
>dalaran opening up
>random ass sky elves that are dead in retoilet
>dark portal not opening
>countless others
But it ALREADY is alternate timeline?
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>>580851387
The quests are completely different.
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/alex/ is laughing at us again bros
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>>580851315
this
my dream as a gnome male player is to be picked up and nursed by a strong nelf female
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>>580850810
>They took inspiration from a random obscure troony looking game that died years ago and was on life support for most of its existence instead of their direct competitor that they paid a legal team to go after
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not invested either way I'm just stating it's obvious they took inspiration from the turtle tents after seeing that it worked and the community liked that sort of thing. You seem to be super invested in that weird pedo-weeb game. Not my problem.
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>>580851368
shamanchads win again
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>>580850920
you are comparing the flavor talent of tauren to the combat talents of other races which makes zero fucking sense. a more accurate comparison would be
Tauren:
2 second AOE stun
5% extra health
1% extra hit
hidden: extra melee range due to model size, better when you know how to manipulate leeway

Human:
remove stun
2% crit (locked into swords forever)
increased stealth detection (worthless in PvE, niche in PvP outside of duels)
5% spirit (literally worthless unless they change how spirit works)

which doesnt seem all that bad for taurens
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>>580851457
based
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can i get a quick rundown of which groups like Forever and which groups hate it?
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All the streamers said they will either create another onlyfans or asmon aaying he gonna funnel gear to him and his gf…

How the fuck do they have a vicegrip on the community?
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>Optimal race/class combo? No thanks. I'm rolling what looks cool to me.
>Optimal spec? The one I find most fun!
>Leveling addon? I'm just gonna follow the breadcrumb quests and read through the quest text, immersing myself in the story.
>Optimal group comp and parses? Not downloading any dps meter, I just look at the numbers on the screen when I hit things.
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>>580851142
>>580850726
i found some old pics from <No Fun Alllowed> / <Entitled>
take me back
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>>580850776
fuck you
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>>580849035
>blizzard making fun of haitians being feral niggers
based
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>>580851329
This is such a stupid fucking idea
Players would be spread across all these random difficulties
It would be a giant cluster fuck with guilds
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>>580851529
>which groups like Forever
Actual WoW players
>and which groups hate it?
Poor people who play on private servers and have been seething since yesterday
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Does plainsrunning work indoors? The tooltip doesn't say anything about it but sounds pretty OP if it does.
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>>580851240
It's not fair goatsis...
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>>580851454
I thought alex was a smack addict
>>580851529
retoilet troons are terrified of Forever actually final killing retoilet and so are joining forces with the pserver players who are already pissed about blizzard killing ascension and turtle to shitpost this thread, but even the combined efforts of their doomposting is barely making a dent in the sheer hopechad energy that Forever ignited.
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Apparently the base exp requirements have been reduced? Can someone confirm this?
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Baladash Malanorai
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>>580850472
I was a gnome mage named Elwizz iirc. I never hit 60 because real life got in the way. But I remember launch, Finalflash, being in Ashenvale and hunting down Grimlic and that one undead guy from Salty Dogs whose name started with Y (Yorick?), and all the drama. OGcucker streaming himself smoking crack/meth. What a time. Though I still think best pserver times were during Scriptcraft/Quality and then Meercore guilds like Shrek. Nost felt too mainstream and brought in a lot of newfags and political tourists.
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If windfury totem is still in the game I'm immediately just not playing warrior, rogue or ret. Or probably survival because that's melee now apparently.
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>>580851454
turn on the stream
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>YOU DON'T LIKE IT? JUST TOGGLE IT OFF, CHVD
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>>580851093
Play new campaign of W3 reforged. Mostly the same but obviously with some new shit from the new race etc.
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are there any videos or vods going through the various races character creation options?
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>>580851725
Correct. That's why it's an option.
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>>580851725
This but unironically and with chad energy
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>>580850792
Illidans Naga went indipendent and they had no problems in living together with blood elves, fel Orcs, brokens and all the other assortend Illidari races
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So all the seethers ITT are from /wpsg/ and are upset that their servers got shut down? Am I getting this correct?
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>>580851629
why are they so erotic, bros?
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why is blizzard so desperate to turn everyone into a retail cuck
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>new profession
What is it bros?
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>>580851771
Yes, unironically.
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>>580851725
whats so hard about that tbqh
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>>580851771
mostly yes, they are also seething in /wpsg/ and as you might expect there is zero discussion or playing of private servers happening there.
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>>580851617
This nigger didn’t remember how SoD died LMFAO.
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>>580851725
yes
I dislike modern models so I will toggle them off
I dislike transmog so I will toggle it off
I dislike having a 2nd name so I will toggle it off
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>>580850037
No they didn't
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classic forever will have 30 million subs
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>>580851697
They'll make it raid wide like in SoD after many complaints from alliance sissies.
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Damn, they really buck broke this community with wow token and original tbc classic deluxe editions. Never would have imagine how quickly the community would bend the knee for something that looks so cynical and shit. Being this desperate for something new is exactly what they want.
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>>580851835
Whoa, the season (of Discovery) ended? No way!
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>>580850989
First I started reading Femdom doujin's ironically, then I gooned to a couple and now I think I have a real problem on my hands.
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>>580851834
>there is zero discussion or playing of private servers happening there.
cause there aren't any left. HAHA. LMEMAO AYYY.
>>580851818
sad. very sad. kek.
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>>580850387
NEW CLASSIC RACE?!
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>>580851093
completely different but also worth doing. you'll be experiencing it backwards from the intended: classic -> cata but you'll still get the wow factor of seeing how the zones are completely different and how they were changed by the cataclysm. forever will just be your "prequel"
go for it anon. cata and wotlk are my favorites
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I really think you niggers need to get your priorities in order.
All I hear people arguing about is things they can fucking turn off.
Meanwhile, I'm over here bitching about things where no such option exists, we just get the worst outcome and that's all there is to it.
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>>580848782
Do you lose all the stacks if you're hit? Or does it shave off individual stacks.
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>>580851529
>which groups like Forever
normal people
>which groups hate it?
retoilets (they'll still play)
nilla boomers (they'll still play)
pserver thirdies (broke)
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>>580851835
sod was active up until they announced end of development 8 weeks into scarlet enclave. it had a pretty good run for a seasonal server
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>>580851771
also retoilets panicking
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>>580851921
Yes, new like the new blue blood elfs new duh
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>>580851329
That's actually a cool idea and the first time I'm hearing it and no I don't think anyone thought about it.
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>>580850752
horde is where all the pvpers will be, chud
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>>580851725
your post upsets me, toggled
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>>580851771
nah it's just latam, EE and balkan subhumans who seethe because they can't afford 15€ a month
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>>580851771
yea but also mad bcuz poor
i would have some respect for them if they were fighting for a vanilla cause but theyve all been playing crossfaction tranny+ servers for years now
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>>580850638
he walled into a chud so he's harmless now
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>>580851945
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>>580851771
All 3 /wowcg/ posters are seething because their general died.
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lot of Grown Ass Men here complaining WoW: Forever isnt gonna take them back to playing Vanilla for the first time when they were a dumb kid/teenager with more free time and less responsibilities
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HR department won.
They neutered horde and gave the alliance every good racial they could get away with and then some.
It's completely criminal.
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Criticizing the race is fine and absolutely deserved. Harassing players for playing the race is not fine. I cant believe this has to be said.
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>>580850472
yeh
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>>580851771
i just think the random asspull elves are dumb
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>>580852067
they can always go play on their fellow schizophrenics server, wallcraft. lol.
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>>580852145
cant wait till the first chud gets banned for excluding Skyborne
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>>580852145
/spit
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>>580852167
Go fuck yourself
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>>580850752
have been since tbc. horde was the monster faction for edgy teens and outcasts and alliance was the arthurian knights and wizards faction for normies. then everything changed.
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>>580852145
Don't think they'll be harassed. It's not like the race is a boost (although the p2w spell food for more bag space is bullshit).
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did someone try /rude as undead
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bro i didnt want blue elves I wanted WHITE elves, no stop telling me i can make the blue elves white it's not the same
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>>580852127
I thought the Horde was the tranny faction because they are all persecuted dindus who stand for trans rights?
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Any chance that the tier 0.5 garbage will be changed to something that isn't terrible?
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Why would they name it forever?? something very sketchy about all this
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>>580852210
In vacuum it wouldn't be end of the world. But when you consider that they had belf,helf, million other already existing races to choose from instead of some random ass never seen, only mentioned once in a quest text new race? That's mind boggling.
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>>580852027
PvP racials are stacked on alliance in forever thoughever
>free pvp trinket
>free mini fap off potion cd
>eureka straight up giving rogue openers energy for another ability and +10% damage
>stoneform
>free boot speed enchant and crit on use trinket on nelfs

meanwhile:
orc stun resist gaped
WOTF still good
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>>580852145
im corpsecamping and virtually raping every skytroon i see, after that, i will shitpost in general about them and exclude them from my group
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>>580852392
kill yourself catposter you're literally bottom feeding trash that should be executed.
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>>580852457
>>580852457
>>580852457
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>>580852392
0.5 is pure kino thoughbeit
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>>580852428
Retail 2.0
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>>580852428
I think it is a WoW Reset, they referred to Last Titan as defending Azeroth for the 'last time'.
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>>580852057
>foreverfags are also BBC loving tranny's
Checks out.
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>>580852268
>>580852269
>>580852334
>>580852456
This isn’t the biting insult you think it is, imagine being this much of a nerd
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>>580851839
have you considered HD armor models on SD graphics? there is no way they make two versions of all armor models for HD/SD settings, and i know this because they didn't bother making SD versions of the skyborne druid forms.
I am as hyped as one can be, but newer models are such a deal breaker for me, i despise retail's art direction and i love classic's gritty, gorey, late 90's early 2000s edgy fantasy style, unfortunately it seems like every game nowdays is made by californian asian females for californian asian females.
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>>580852167
>Damage Control
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>>580852558
Giving blizzard extra money just so you can coom deserves harassment
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>>580852392
leaked
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/season-of-discovery/tier-0-5-sets-overview
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>>580852558
>"This isn't the biting insu-"
>*You have been removed from the group*
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>>580851963
Forever isn't replacing retail and it'll be dead in 3 months
>inb4 I get called a retail player for pointing out an obvious fact
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>>580852604
theres little worse than americanized asian women
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>>580852558
I said I think they won't be harassed. That is a neutral comment. Which version of GPT are you on, 2? Fucking bot.
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>>580851582
players are already split by level if you're level 30 you're not doing content with a level 50. Also the first playthrough/prestige takes around 200 hours and further prestiges will take increasingly long so it's not like there's a ton of difficulties that players will be spread between. The alternative is once you hit max level and do all the content you just quit or make a meaningless alt so
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>>580844440
>/wowfg/
more like /wowfag/ heh gottem
>>580844641
Lol what is this bitch on about? night elves look way better.
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>>580851725
Yes?
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>>580850971
>flying boats
I hate this shit so fucking much. The entire rest of the starting zones is cows and horses and boars and wolves and sabers and rams, as low fantasy as possible, since its the STARTING zones l, but we'll have flying fucking boats and go straight into high fantasy setting right off the bat.
How is something so simple a thing they can never wrap their stupid heads around?
Just fucking fly everywhere on that boat, who cares about ships and zeppelins and Barrens elevators and flight paths.
It cant just be different elves in a brighter forest somewhere, it has to be fucking sky magic mega elves on floating islands and towers and flying boats.
Fucking imbeciles.
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>>580851878
>Never would have imagine how quickly the community would bend the knee for something that looks so cynical and shit
Did you start playing WoW this month?
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>>580844850
HOLY SEXO
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>>580853163
Because theyre troon faggots who read web novels all day.
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>>580848294
this but unironically
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>>580849456
>turboautist.
that's what you are
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>>580848774
I have a text document that looks very similar to this. I like these ideas, nice job anon
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Well, I'm starting to accept that my and many other's classic journey is over. We need to get on with the times and move on to either new adventures in the World of Wacraft Forever or the culmination of the 20 years of World of Warcraft story, the last titan. It's bittersweet, but I can say that I got what I wanted out of classic. I cleared all Ulduar hardmodes, saw Yogg 0 lights and Algalon. I got the tribute for insanity for heroic Trial of the crusader, altought the pony eluded me since some melee dps always managed to die somewhere! I cleared heroic Icecrown Citadel, all of heroic Cataclysm raids, got Firelord title and cut down Deathwings "dirty fingernails". Cleared all MoP heroic raids, I saw the mogushan vaults, witnessed the ambershaper, dark animus, lei shen and defeated Garrosh himself. Most of these things that I wasn't able to do back in the day.

I'm just worried there's not enough granularity in gameplay in between the extremely slow and simple Forever and fast and furious retail. It's going to take time, but perhaps I will find a place for me, perhaps a new forever home..



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