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>Forever/Hardcore getting 4 panels today>Retail gets 0WTF IS GOING ON
how is this 35gigs
Why did we get nothing from blizzcon....Metzen didn't even show up...
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>5808461913 different texture packs.
>>580846191HD GAMING
>>580846191polygons. imagine having billions of jpgs in your elf goon folder, except they shade in models in a game.
>>580846170
>>580846338i only goon to bbw mei (overwatch) though
Its going to be different
Dont cry because it's overSmile because it happened
>classic+>skyborne starting zone>looks like hillsbrad foothills with dragonflight modelsIt's overit's just retail 2
>>580846423I goon to roadhog...
>>580846170>"we're not gonna show anything from TTL because uhhhh we don't want to spoil you guys hahahaha"I have a bad feeling
might just troon out and go back to og ion please spare my life
>>580846564retailGODS won
>>580842329all this thanks to made up allegations btw
>>580846564OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
De Darkspear Isles... Home...
I like Skyborne elves more than Void elves vros
>>580846564Welcome to Retail-
Controller icon in LFG dungeon finder so I can decline every cozygamer fag
>>580846564it's a complete farce but it will still take half our dev time and playerbase for a year until it dies. Truly the worst timeline.
>Blizzard experimenting with rollslop before the huge changes in the Last TitanHopw are coping bros? Hope you guys are good at Dark Souls
>We have so much content to show you we couldnt possibly fit it in the whole convention haha>Proceed to spend 90% of stagetime to talk about random shit and stalling until classic+ as the real event>TLT barely mentionned and required Holly to show up so people would give a shit>It's to announce that they're not on schedule, not in the conv, and only have a 20s teaser for the updatebrutal
>>580846425Forever is going to be different™.
>>580846564I can't believe they abandoned retail for this
>>580846564lolLMAO
>>580846425>>580846564
as long as i play human male paladin/warrior it doesn't matter what wow version they want to shove up my throat, im ascended far beyond goyhood
the possibilities for moggies are going to be endless
I'm happy to be getting Darkspear paladins. Zandalari are too blue-blooded, we need prelates that understand the plight of the common troll.
No more dickgoats
no more femgobs
no drae = no play
>>580847890
>>580847070i look like this
>>580846874any pvmping content out yet for skyborne?
You're all so exhausting, chill
ice spec paladins haha
>>580848248WE ARE ALL QUITTING
It annoys me that there are more races than classes
>>580848251TITANIC PALADIN XD GHOSTCRAWLER IS A F AGGOT B ITCH LOL
We all know the horde is going to be 60%+ sky blood elves, classic was like the last place we were free of them
>>580848371true..
>You preserve that which is doomed. A cosmos divided will not survive what is to come.He knew about WoW Forever
>>580847943>no drae no playNOW SECURE THE NAGLFAR
>transmog restrictions goneHOLY BASEDLITERALLY how my paladin will look like from day 1 (ONE) when ts go live twin
paladin herei steal clothes from elves
>>580848545Will put my white male paladin in mage sissy dresses.
>>580848657mages do not were sissy dresses this is fake news
Do we have any idea what the raid content in Forever will look like? Is it still going to be MC, BWL etc to start?
>retail roadmaps
>>580848886why didnt they nerf the 40man raids into 20mansretarded shit
>>580848657
>>580848835Start is a new raid. Originals will get reworked and get added later.
>>580848886don't forget hardcore :^)
>>580848886>>580849034i give it 1.5 years before it dies
these last few days have been exciting
>>580847890My femgob would do this.
>>580847943post you're drae
>>580849098People said this about retail and it lasted 20 yearsThe future is now old man
why did blizzard forget to give worgens paladin as a class too?
>>580848248not only they are exhausting and annoying, but they all look like this pic -> >>580848321
>>580847890Is she eating her out or just making fun of her for being short?
>>580848545You still can't transmog sets from other classes.
>>580848886Interesting. If only I actually knew people still playing it.
>>580849183Tell your femgob she's based and thank her for service
>>580849393you can farm non set parts with same models
>>580849303What the fuck is a worgen? You mean those silly dogs in Duskwood?
>>580849303Because they're dumbos.
>>580849098With the way blizzard is presenting Forever it seems like they expect it to overshadow retail.
>>580849098>>580849867>just to reset the game, throw away all the negative things from current retail and start over to make same mistakes they previously didHow long until first gay centaurs will hit the Forever client if they are not there already.
imagine
I remember falling in love with a fem gob when I was kid because she liked to touch my orc muscles (I think she was just trying to get me to do a quest for her)
>>580847738...Would
>>580850181skyborne starting zone
>>580846084Love wowg anons!!!
>>580850181>Keep HR karens and M+ rats and Mythic raid wimps contained in retail>All of the people that want a fun MMORPG play ForeverIt's that simple.Nora is based so she'll be the wall that protects us.
>>580849867They have the numbers, we don't. SoD + Classic must've actually overshadowed the Hazzikostas hamster wheel that we keep getting. And I'm not surprised, it seems like it caters to RWF and then fucks everyone else in the ass trying to farm engagement metrics.
Is this still accurate?
>>580850362>gay blue elvesYou might be on to something.Weren't those blue skin Kyrians in Shadowlands transgender...
>>580848545Maybe class sets in specific arent allowed but good I hope so
>>580847070Forever could be saved with one simole addition.
add delves in forever and i will pay for your homoelves
Ion is going to have his chance to redeem himself after TLT. Let the man cook
>willing playing fucking DWARF of all things>muh racial, MUH DISPELL>2500io 0M kills
>only have 1 capped character>arms warrior>want to try to make an outlaw rogue to see how the other half lives>hear its hardam i going to be okay going from an unga bunga spec to outlaw
>>580850517>You don't understand, it's really good that it takes the best players in the world countless hours of farming, funneling gear, and wiping for weeks to clear the raid!Ion should've never been made lead game dev.Just keep him making raids while someone else has a leash on him.
>>580850734What if I am playing a Dwarf hunter though
The all sky elves are biologically male, canonically.
I can't believe WoW just fucking won.Retail and classic enjoyers are gonna have their Golden eras while forever and TLT steal players from every other irrelevant mmo no matter the genre.WoWchads You fucking won.
QUAZI THE ONE EYED CHINK DIED OR SUMMIT? I USED TO USE HIS TANK VIDEO where is this idiot
>>580850928total worlo domination
>>580851045We cancelled while you were gone, sorry bro.
>>580850763Problem is the raids he makes are getting progressively worse. They promised a reset in terms of mechanical difficulty since they turned off addons and pruned the spellbook, but it just didn't happen. I'm a semi-HC CE raider clearing the final boss multiple times a tier (so everyone gets a mount) and it doesn't feel good anymore.L'ura was a soulcrushing experience, we had 25% of the roster rotate out of the guild after she died before 12.1 and another 10% during 12.1. Ula'tek is mechanics slop and required downsizing the raid in HEROIC so it could be killed week 2, and we just know Twin Fangs won't die until they nerf it for us plebs so we're taking our time on Sszorak. It's a mess.
>>580849280People also said this about classic (1.5 lifespan) and they were right
>>580849867>>580850181>>580850362>>580850604>overshadow retail>overshadow>shadow>shadowlands>over shadowlands retail>Kyrians>Skyborne>blue skinWoW 2.0
I'm going to be honest. I don't see the appeal of Forever at all. What am I not understanding about this game?OC DONUT STEEL blue elves... Come on, bruh.
>>580851382classic but different bro
>>580847510Same. I'm a straight white male human paladin and I'll play retail until November. Then hop on Forever if asmongold tells me its good
>>580851374classic is still very populated though
>>580851209youre on the top 1% raiders minmaxing the fun out of it lil bro my guild is having a lot of fun this tier
>>580851374>1.5 lifespanclassic was announced by blizz in 2017 and is still going
>thingken about playing dps like lock or mage>forever locked in the "no free invites" zone whenever I need to use the group finder for random dungeons or stuff like thatis it autism or is it not that bad
>>580851382slow, comfy pacehorizontal difficulty campfires from tera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7VXVYGyaooemphasis on comfy community we're going home
>>580851209Ion's solution?>Just keep wiping until we add more player power in 12.1.5!Ion catering to Liquid and Echo is retarded.
>>580851382It's not like SoD at all which worries me. The new spells and cool rotations were a nice addition, but we're now gonna be back to boring frostbolt spam.>>580851514That's the thing, I wish I wasn't 1%. I wish this content was top 5% or even top 10%. I just like to have the best gear, it's the kind of autism I have, but the work required to put in is grinding my damn gears more and more each season.
>>580851521just take your dagger off and punch things to get the tag, 'nonny
>>580851379>this is how they can claim that trannies have always been part of the World of Warcraft
business idea: worg gf
>>580851209I am new to WoW. Do they ever reduce difficulty of mythic raids late into season or do they just keep it at high difficulty so barely anyone can clear it?
>>580851521Mage isnt even bad, try Arcane. It's just sissy group leads looking to be carried or over the top playing it safe (in their weekly no leavers 10)Raid groups arent even close to such selective autism.
>>580851778ogre_running_at_incredibly_hihg_speeds.gif
>>580851904They nerf them mechanically and numerically as time goes on. On L'ura they reduced the amount of spinny 1-shot blades, then they made it so you don't have to drop a crystal for a memory game, and all this while we were getting like 1% more damage/health each week until 15%.
>>580851883>worg gfMan, that would be fan-fucking-tasticThey should have done that instead of midnight or forever
>>580851904They will nerf it over time, but you still need to be a great player to defeat the last boss on mythic.
>>580851904They usually nerf it, except this tier has actual giga bis dropping from mythic so they won't be nerfed anytime soon to make up for the giga loot it drops.
>>580851904Dunno about nowadays but it was often content nerf over time + player power creep over time.
>>580851778
>>580851950>>580852172at this point the image more describes people desperate to post that image
>>580846170Last Titan closes the loop and Azeroth's world spirit resets the world back to just after WC3 Frozen Throne, hence the new WC3 campaign.
Mountsmogscheevos bros how are we holding up? Did you do your 300 curse surges and 500 patrols yet?
>>580852172me but im on my way to tell you I still care and will play wowf
summmoning koragon
>>580852064I dont like worgs
>>580851753>It's not like SoD at all which worries me. The new spells and cool rotations were a nice addition, but we're now gonna be back to boring frostbolt spam.They'll probably add more and more as time goes on, they're just trying to get a feel on the community.>I just like to have the best gearWhy?Unless you're going for the 1% M+ mount I don't get it.
hammer's up
>retail isn't canon anymore
>>580852346Oh. Any particular reason why not?
>>580852439>play GTA6That game will last a week and then people will go back to wow.
>first time gearing a characterwhat ilvl do i start m+ at? im 279 right now but i have 4 bountiful delves to do at reset in a few minutes
>>580852530Woah I love worgs
>>580852380>unless you're going for the 1% M+ mountMythic rosters are tight and I can't swap to a meta M+ spec every season. Well, with pic related change I won't have to so I might start going for it from now on.
>>580851883sorry im HUMAN
>>580852621Probably practice mythic zeros. I'm in the same position as you atm
I think Forever is a great idea, and am encouraging my friends to try WoW for the first time. Since they dont have to rush to 60, they're a lot more interested. Skyborne worry me a bit, but we will have to see where they go.
>>580852828My friend that has never played wow before messaged me to tell me he thought the blue chick was hot.I think WOW with no 20 year baggage can get a lot of casuals.
>>580852828forever is unironically exactly what i wanted from wow>classic level pacing>game is actually about questing and adventuring rather than rushing you to endgame in a single dayits everything that makes guild wars 2 actually good and an antithesis to current mmo design which is fucking perfect
>>580852621Just Made up this rule of thumb for lower end gearing;Prey hunts and delves while solo gamingM+ is good but you need to get in a group first, highly recommended to go tank or healer (much easier to get invites as there's many, many more dps than tanks or healers thus dps end up waiting for them)Normal raid is kind of easy to pug and trinkets are really good.On vault pick the venomous bonus roll and use it on heroic raid, it's bis gear.
>>580852621Do the bountifuls then M0s. You can do M+ at 280 but it'd have to be your own key because people are picky.
>>580852828I told my family and friends about Forever, they were very interested.
>comments already overflowing with retards asking for a Frostmourne transmog
>>580852828>>580852940>>580853040kek this is the new version of the "LA cafe" meme huh
>get the Warcarft 3 expansion>it's all Rexxarslop pseudo RPG instead of base building
>>580852828>don't have to rush to 60First raid comes out a month from release. You can do it whenever of course but it's kinda early.
puzzle time.https://jigex.com/M6aSof
>>580849536cute when mad
>>580853094You just know it's coming...
>>580853094im one of them. its time. nuwow doesnt give a fuck about lore if you want that play classic. give me the real shalamayne. give me frostmourne. give me valeera's daggers
>Already seeing people asking if Forever's canon. Why haven't the Skyborne shown up in wow yet. Why even bother caring about retail's narrative if they can at any point down the line write it all off for forever.Holly unironically just killed the games future. The Everquest witch strikes again
>>580852828And they'll bounce off it because of the early gameplay and how bad questing in WoW is if you've played any RPG in the last 25 years.
>>580853158Classic raids sucked so I'm in no hurry. Only thing that made them interesting is that nobody knew what they were doing.
>>580853158If they rugpull the horizontal progression concept on the first revamped raid, MC presumably, i'd be shocked. So as long as they are serious about horizontal, then it should be fine to take a long time leveling.
>>580853250Why even bother caring about forevers narrative if they can at any point down the line write it all off for retail?
>>580852669Now this guy is a connoisseur
>>580853250let's be honest, retail needs to die. its been dogshit for so long
>>580853212My main complaint isn't even the lore, its that literally every faggot will use it and it will be everywhere.
>>580846564Wait they're giving Forever the retail UI? FFS
>>580852828I am curious to try Forever.
>>580853291They said they'll revamp every single one of the originals. 1st raid is completely new though.
>>580853250Forever is just retail in disguise.
>>580853250>just killed the game futureit's been dead for a while, she's just kicking the corpse a little
>>580853250Are you implying retail's story has been any good since Legion? I'll even give you parts of BfA.
>>580853254>Game had it's highest subs when it was "bad">Became the most popular MMO when it was "bad"WOW is great when it doesn't put new players through shitty leveling like retail does with exiles reach and mob scaling.
>>580853094Erm will there be frostmourne
M-metzen sisters...*coughs blood*... we just...can't...stop...winning *cough*
>no furries races in foreverhaha
>>580846564it really is just retail 2already has dungeon finder and all
>>580852828You can find World of Warcraft: Forever in the Microsoft new games section!
>>580853465>another larper pretending wow peak was vanillaOk it's good we can just ignore idiots like you.
>>580853483im glad they got better cinematic produces nowi guess the other guy got fired or something lolthe forever cinematic is very nice, the elf even has glowing eyes
>>580853291>Classic raids sucked so I'm in no hurry.Classic raids are about chilling with the boys while you get sweet loot.Imagine spending 300 pulls to kill a boss lmao.>>580853394You can toggle basically everything to be modern or classic looking
>>580853250Literally no one cares about retail's narrative lol
>>580853496Gonna be honest. I think this is mostly why people are mad at it..
>>580853496bro memoryholed tauren
>guise THE HECKIN STORYwhat fucking retard thinks this matters any more than an actual good fun gameif forever is good then there's two fun wow now, with different types of fun even (slow vs adhd action)
>>580852307hi
explain to me why theres no 12.2 deep dive wtf
>>580853565It was peak MMORPG, and that's what wow is.Retail wow is just a lobby while you wait for a Raid and M+ group
>>580853787Too soon and too many spoilers for The Last Titan
>>580853748The story begins with classic+ (retail 2)
>>580853565It's about the subscriptions. Wrath had the highest, so was Wrath the greatest leveling experience that WoW has ever had? That was pre-Cata, so just Vanilla leveling with higher XP gain and hitting mobs a bit harder.
>>580853698Tauren arent really furries
>>58085378712.2 deep dive would spoil they're killing off Liadrin in 12.1.5
>>580853748people made fun of lorenerds before and now suddenly it matters kek
>>580853840i'd fuck tauren
>>580853625>Classic raids are about chilling with the boysIt's just people getting drunk and talking over each other. I'll stick to dungeons if I want to be with friends and I'll play something else entirely if I want a challenge.
>>580853814Vanilla wow is just a lobby while you wait for a Raid
>>580853840>bipedal cows are not furrywhatever helps you sleep at night
>>580853787There is one, it's just happening off-site
>>580853835>so was Wrath the greatest leveling experience that WoW has ever had?Yeah it was way better than vanilla. Vanilla lvling was so bad they are trying to fix it in forever with new lvling zones and no running out of quests is not a good lvling experience.
how does one acquire the ability to level up fast from 10hard mode : no boost
>>580853787>Uh here's the new underground zone>new raid that will take you months >a new dungeon and 6 recycled dungeons>and uh... oh yeah housing!There, that's your deep dive.
>>580853754They already fucked it up with Skyborne. The 1.0 shit is being treated as canon to Warcraft as a whole and then maybe they'll deviate and do non canon stuff down the line if they feel like they've got a cool idea.But apparently their cool idea for Forever's narrative was>What if we had Elves in the sky no one ever saw, despite zeppelin's, dragons and all other manner of flying shit was flying around
>>580854007You play the Wrath Remix near the end of its life cycle. In Legion Remix you could get from 0-Max in 1 hour.
>>580854007*chooses tank specialization*
>>580853787Because they probably don't know what half the shit actually does yet. Shit wildly changes when it's on the PTR, let alone when it's 4 months away from even being on the PTR.
>>580853787no one cares about retail anymoredeep dive is for Forever, what everyone will be playing
>>580853970Yes, exactly. If that was the best leveling experience, and Forever will be a bit close to it, then Forever will be a good leveling experience right?
>>580854041I mean, a similar thing happened with PandariaHell, even Gilneas was completely disconnected from the world, despite literal portal magic being a thing
>>580854007Download Follow the Arrow addon and do what it says.
>>580854123If they fix it yes but we are not talking about forever, we are talking about vanilla and the poor lvling experience.
>>580854007do pet battles
Why do they just refuse to add high elves?
>>580854183Yes, but you at least saw Pandarens and Gilneans running around.Sky Elves ain't.
>>580854281because they're blood elves
>>580854245>we are not talking about forever, we are talking about vanilla and the poor lvling experience.literally said>>580853254>And they'll bounce off it because of the early gameplay and how bad questing in WoW is
>>580854281to own the chuds like (you)anyway i am having lasagna for dinner 2day
/ourqueen/ status ?
>>580854371fat orange bastard
>>580854091Actually we already had the 12.2 deep dice, among a billion other things>unlimited armor unrestricted mog>housing combat rooms and combat dummies with funcional combat settings like resetting cooldowns on demand and combat consumables and food>a tease of the raids and dungeons>trailer cinematic with Xally feet>wotlk remix>the new roguelike gamemode>paladin undead nelf and troll>And a lot more I forgotanyone saying no deep dive is low effort baiting
So, who gangbanged Evitel this blizzcon?
>>580854245The premise was that new players wouldn't want to play WoW because the leveling experience sucked, but Forever sounds like it'll be a good leveling experience. I wasn't the guy who said vanilla leveling was the absolute best. If we go by sub numbers, it should be Wrath.
her face when i whip out my light infused bwc
>>580854281Skyborne are high elves. They diverged from Azshara's empire during the Sundering and survived without being turned into naga, just like the nighborne did.
>>580854418oh he mad
>>580854556U ATE MY PLANT GARRRFOLLLLDDD!!!!!!
>>580854436>>>practice room>>>in your mancave house tooSo fucking peak
>>580854281Make your Skyborne white, no tattoos, get off Zephras Isle, and just pretend you're a high elf with some wind themed cantrips.
>>580853748if you're not playing this game for story why are you playing it?the gameplay is hilariously mid, most classes are a handful of single action keybinds with no combos, timing or depth to the gameplay at all beyond pushing 1 and sometimes pushing 2 or 3 depending on what lights up. the combat is so simple it has been effectively replaced with single button assist outperforming 80% of raiders. the endgame loop is the perfect storm of tedious busywork and hyper toxic esports time trials with public ratings like its fucking league of legends.the PVP has been neglected for 15 years straight the open world is increasingly small, with fewer zones to explore every expansion. legitimately, if not the story, then what? nothing else in this game is worth it. the engine, the gameplay, the graphics, the systems, they're all collectively some of the worst in gaming.
>>580854436the guy at stage literally called it a deep dive at the end of the presentation so yeah it was a deep dive
>>580854698gameplay is what matters most in any game, and this mmo happens to have the best combat and gameplay experience there is. in other worlds, it's just FUNnot that deep
>>580853250My headcanon is they all get wiped out and everyone agrees to never mention them again, maybe people realise it's a floating Epstein island or something
>>580854436Ah fair enough, I never watched the stream because shit was like at 5am so I just read 5,000 different posts on wowhead.
>>580853840They're anthro, they're just not popular with furries cause they're more monstrous than owo
>>580854694That did not answer the question
>>580854281Quite simple.>Can't give High Elves in retail as it'll take away from Blood Elves and the new pet race Void Elves>Can't add High Elves in le classico dah plus because if classico plus people got High Elves over retail, High Elf fans would chimp out>Solution is to invent High Elves 3.0 who have been sitting in the sky all along (you) just didn't realize and make them neutral so Horde gets them as well cause they can't have Blood Elves yet.
>>580854852don't bother, that nigger is just baiting or straight up hasnt played other games and/or is pushing 50 or 40
>only seeing one bountiful delve todayam i retarded
if the classic experience is so good why are all the players doing everything in their power to skip it?
>>580854957I'm solution-oriented, sorry.
>>580854889Yeah, they're hunchbacked cows, it really doesn't work for porn addicts. They don't even have the right type of beastcock (horsecock).
>>580854698As a new WoW player, I had the same questions too. But there's something about getting a new piece of gear with higher ilvl than your current equipped one that triggers some dopamine hit in my brain. It gets my dick rock hard. I dunno, comparitevely speaking, when I played classic WoW in 2019, I pretty much never got that. It was just slow walking around open world zones which I do countless times in other games (Breath of the Wild, Asscreed, Genshin)
Did they say anything about artifact class restrictions being lifted?
>NOOOOOOO I CAN'T PLAY THIS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT HIGH ELVES WITH TATTOO AND PURPLE SKIN EVEN THOUGH I CAN CHANGE THEM TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIGH ELVESI don't understand high elves fags.
>>580855010Its not reset time yet.
>>580854436>Mail wearers, SHAMANS, can actually use that Thrall Style plate armor from BFAFuck yeah
>>580855010Check Silvermoon and Quel'thalas.
>>580854889I love tauren
>>580855106>tauren dont have horsecocksI have photographic evidence to the contrary
>>580855218>Its not reset time yet.isnt daily reset 10am est? its 10:30
>>580854889truth nvke, furries can't handle anything more monstrous than a uwu wolf
you guys dont understand. its only furry if it gets my dick hard.
>>580855273Reset time is 8am california Its not 8 flyoverbro
>>580855269Yeah well I do too but it's not lore accurate.
>>580855095Top reasons are probably the speed of vertical progression, inherent to Classic 2019 and Anni, where you have to rish to 60 and then 70 as fast as possible, and then giving players the option to boost is like a drug to many people.
>>580855165People saying it's only the non-class locked stuff that is allowed. So like right now if you wanted to mog DK stuff on a Paladin, you only have access to the generic drops, none of the tier or catalyst only pieces.
only mystic grasshoshesshh raiders got thesejelly?
>>580855401>20 years of mounts/mogs/cheevos going away foreverHow is this legal? Can we sue Blizzard?
Wrath Remix is going to feel hilariously light on content after Legion Remix.
>>580855193because you lack authenticity because you're a subversive leftist shitlog eater
When are they gonna fire or demote Holly? Hell, bring back Ybarra to do it. The hag's been out of touch for far too long. Ever since she got put on retail she's been pushing for the worst ideas imaginable. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised she's the one also pushing the constant Elf races.
>>580855227Same.
>>580855497no they are not ur a liar
>>580855269source
>state of retail so grim the thread can only focus on nitpicking things in classic+
>>580854517
>>580855498>login>do naxx, os, and malygos in 30min>log off
>>580855528I thought elves and humans are the most played race. Why are furries getting mad bro? Shes making decisions based on data.
>>580855401>only mystic grasshoshesshh raiders got these>jelly?WrongThat was from AOTC normal (now called heroic) mode>Source: I have it
>>580855528>When are they gonna fire the most popular person in the entire company2 more weeks surely, trust the plan
>>580855498What, you're not excited to breeze through every dungeon but Violet Hold and The Oculus?
when do we get this color???? I have been waiting for 10+ years
>>580854436>unlimited armor unrestricted mogpls no
>>580855807>Most popular person in the entire company.But they already fired Chris Metzen tho, it's why he hasn't been seen in years.
Holly is doing a good job but you guys don't want to admit it because she's a woman. Most of the bad shit we have are leftovers from previous leads.
>>580855854mmm piss
how long does rank 20 silvermoon rep take? i want the socialite top for a mog
>>580855796shut up
>>580855854yeah we need another round of t2 recolors
>>580855963I admit it honestly. She will probably fire Ian after TLT and put retail in maintenance because he chased off all the players with hard raids
>>580855963>It's not the fault of the hag who's been in charge of the IP since DF. It's the fault of someone else.Nah, fuck Holly. She's doing the same exact shit she pulled with Everquest and it's hurting the game.
>>580856020Around december when they release .7 and another super bounty
>>580855957Ah yes, the very popular Chris "Remove the war in warcraft" MetzenI wonder why we didnt see a single pixel of him at blizzcon while holly got to announce that she's putting the war back in warcraftI'm sure there's some subtle symbolism to be found here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Xb5PhF5pcYOU'RE A BIG GUY
I present you the most underwhelming expansion mount.>what are boarsno
Got a bit high and have suddenly become kinda hype for WoW:F
>level 38s on the blizzcon floor are pulling packs of 15 mobs in quest zones and aoeing them down>xaryu already solo'd a dungeon>tanks are holding aggro like it's retail>sodapoppin already dueled someone and crit them for 9kIt's so fucking over
>>580856195So the titans are going to wipe us out or what?
>>580856195for tinkers...
>>580854281Because they *need* to give the horde barbie elves for population reasons. They don't want to repeat the TBC strategy so they landed on this compromise.It's an imperfect solution, as they cannot just give Quel'thalas to the Alliance without killing the Horde population
>>580856170Would rather trust a woman in leadership position than a soi boy neckbeard white guy honestly. The latter just has no logic whatsoever and his decisions are purely run by his whore wife and daughter
>>580856263sounds like vanilla
do we have a date for the transmog restriction removal?
>>580856265hopefullysadly I think we'll have a much worse fate as we get to witness the yasqueens avengers defeat the titans
>>580855583full, NOW
My WoW:F!
>>580856263so its just regular classic
>>580856265Probably some last emergency measure when the world soul chamber is breached that tries to wipe out all life on the planet. Like Algalon's reorigination. The bot looks like the whole raid of Ulduar got up and started walking.
>>580846084Should retail wow have this type of lighting?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AzuOWbkZKk
>>580851883Worg gf(male)
>>580856570No but they are most likely going to add the option.
>>580856570it unironically makes everything look fake and gay
>>580856570No. Because retail players don't care about anything unless you're in a mythic plus dungeon or raid. They're wasting time enhancing zones
>>580856263ppl do be do dat in classic alreadyalready do be doin dat fr fr fryeah? dey b doin datholy big crit!stop talking about streamers doebeit
>plan to play forever>never leveled in classic zones beforeis cata worth experiencing? i know its completely different
Oh no no no no. Look at the top of his head
>>580856489>The bot looks like the whole raid of Ulduar got up and started walking.If it actually is that someone must have played Fall of Cybertron recently on that team.
>>580856570>anti soul gasYuck
The water is the forever trailer looks 10x better than in retail
>>580856387Somewhere around 12.2 iirc, gonna farm all those cool ass belts with daggers or potions
>>580856120She's an OG Everquest devShe's as close to the "old guard devs" as you can get, if not better She has infinite experience with how much of an old hag she is, tooShe's literally our Yoshi P and yet you're too blind to see it. Brainrotted by shitposts on /v/ and /vg/.
>>580856570>musicmember when they did absolutely nothing with that zone
>>580856816>She's literally our Yoshi P
is there a good way to use this or do i just send it in a t8+ bountiful and pray that i get something i can turn into a tier piece
>>580856729is that mr yoggy
>>580856726I like leveling i'm cata zones personally but apparently a lot of people hate them?I like the classic random dungeons too.
>>580856816>She's our Yoshi PHag shills need to get our this thread
>>580856943Yeah just pray you get something good in your next delve
>>580856943Well yeah the delve loot it's all random
>>580856910We posting selfies?
>>580856943lmao its all shit, versa shit, don't get your hopes up
>>580854436What do you want to hear? You saw you have 7 absolutely horrible dungeons and a new one. You saw you have 1 new raid for the 2 guilds. You will farm your crests in Dragonflight season 18 and you will be timegated each week. After 5 months, 10 nerfs and turbo boost your shit guild will be able to kill Xally.
>>580856943T8, some hero delve trinkets unironically compete with mythic trinkets
HEY WHAT IN THE MOTHERFUCKI DIDN'T PAY FOR IT YET AND FAGEVER INSERTED ITS FUCKING SELF IN FRONT OF MY RETAIL ICON ON FAVORITES IN THE LAUNCHERWHAT THE FUCK
>>580856953Yes
SEX with Holly
>>580857147They always force classic icons into the launcher
>>580857121>After 5 months, 10 nerfs and turbo boost your shit guild will be able to kill Xally.On normal or heroic?
>>580857153She's so cute, I love her
>>580854436cooked the baitcuck into seethe good job thanks for the summary
Holly Longdale -is- Blizzard. You chuds just aren't willing to accept that. She made WoW Forever and the Worldsoul Saga in a cave with a stick of ram.Hell, she's so popular she's even getting a dedicated panel today just for her
OddResub and level my main for TLT and EclipseA BDK/UDK FempandaEvenGet a new faction in TWWIII
>>580857128Keepsake my beloved
>>580856943Just send it in a T8+. I got a decent hero trinket pretty early on so it's not all garbage.
>Check datamine of new wc3 dlc>New campaign looks like another Founding of Durotar-esque rpg slop revolving around Sneedvanas' lackey and a new oc donut steel to justify the undead paladin pushSo much for "putting the WAR back in Warcraft". If I play a rts is to build a base/city/empire, raise an army and clash it with another army>Garithos was turned into a dumb, third-person speaking abomination, with his steed' skull as a handGuess too many chuddy chuds became sympathetic towards him as years and the absolute travesty that was the lore went on. Kek, this is literally Steven Trooniverse/Vivzieslop tier writing: You have war criminals, genociders and degenerates left and right getting slaps on the wrist and "uh, it's complex" schlock, yet being a le heckin' yikes bigot towards the faggot elves that china love so much makes you giga-hitler.>New "definitive" graphics that look like mobile shitThey literally had the perfect "remastered" graphics with that one Starcraft II unit pack. Hell, even using vanilla wow models would do the job. Guess they'll never learn.Oh and a new neutral hero to further hammer home the fact that undead can be paladins now. 30 bucks for a shit that would have been free back in Frozen Throne. Warcraft III is back, baby™! Thanks for coming to my DOUBT Talk™
>>580856570It's not a question if its going to, it is gonna be up it's the same engine, either next mini patch or major
>>580857643pretending garithos is sympathetic lmaopeak clown
>>580856729>"THE BIG BRAIN AM WINNING AGAIN"
>>580857343kek
>>580857815>NOW I AM LEAVING AZEROTH, FOR NO RAISIN
echo sharted another tourney...
>>580857643Yeah but Anya's a cutie so all is forgiven.
>>580857643Nigger, Garithos was always a caricature of a racist in Warcraft 3. There was zero depth to his characterization, he was just pointlessly mean all the time.
>>580857643Those new graphics are so ass it's insane.
>>580857896Did you know that futurama is still running? Yeah me neither.>>580857940>pointlessly meanMore like pointlessly retarded.
>>580856570Will it give me mythic track if they add it to retail?
>paladin with nelf shadowmeld
>>580858096>any class with nelf shadowmeld
>>580857643>>580857940Garithos the racist fucking nazi got what he fucking deserved
>>580858096Every day Shadowmeld doesn't get nerfed, is further proof of Blizz having a bias for Night Elves
LMAO RETAIL GOT SHAFTED FOR RETOILET FOREVER
>>580858159garythos
>>580858159I'm not sure what Garithos fans were expecting. He never showed up or was referenced by name in wow for 20 years.Of course they'd re-kill him off in the wow prequel campaign
Click the mario box for a TLT spoiler!
>>580853179Thanks.
>>580858617Why is she lightforged? If she gets exposed to the world soul she should be arcaneforged.
>>580858617Looking forward to it
>>580858617Where did you get that?
>>580858617I swear she's gonna say something like:>And after Midnight... a new Dawn.Stupid foot slut.
>>580858917photoshop thats been around for over year. retard
>>580858617mfw azeroth needs a body so arator sacrifices himself
>>580857901They can't even use the "but we didn't have time to prepare!! we were doing RWF!!!" because liquid also didn't have time to prepare and still won.
>>580858829This is a crop from the cinematic when her secret phase triggers when she revives in the raid and we don't actually kill her, she survives on 1hp and then becomes a good character for the next season as we take on...I'll post another spoiler if this post gets atleast 10 (You's) >>580859070You know that is actually closer than anyone here would be willing to believe because azeroth is not a real place, it needs balance which involves traditional light/dark ala yin + yang and as such this occassion is most likely outcome.
hows rogue in 12.1?
>>580858572>He never showed up or was referenced by name in wow for 20 years.ACKSHULLY he was mentioned in one of those faggy guide books from 2020>SI:7's leader Mathias Shaw is of the opinion that Garithos sullied the name of the Alliance with his bigoted treatment of the elves and that while his end was terrible, it was "better than he deserved".Kek, leave it to the spymaster that was too busy getting meatstabbed to pontificate
>>580859070Azeroth is a woman tho
>Xallywally confirmed to be the final boss of midnightPut in your last titan boss predictions. My money is on that giant mech from the teaser for season 1, iridichad for season 2, and the titan pantheon for season 3. Definitely think the lair bosses are going to be scourge remnants and naga bullshit
>>580859220>Xal'atath is going to be both Void and Light, like Yin and YangOne brings shadow, one brings light...
>>580856570>completely changes the feeling of DarkshoreNo I don't like it
>>580859535im just glad we're done with this jobber bitch
>>580859535The mech is literally the size of an entire zone. How would we fight it?
>>580859610I like it
>>580859535nah this will be a fel reaver kind of MF roaming Northrend
>>580859643bust a hole in it and fly in and destroy from inside
>>580857643I don't hate the new two characters but all being RPGslop instead of actual RTS is retarded. Just make it a WoW questchain at that point.
>No death knights in WoW forever at launchRidiculous. Guess I'll have to roll undead paladin and pray that they have flavor spells
>>580859610your montana/midwest inspired zone in classic+ is ready, sire
>>580859535>legendary is a dagger that looks the same as the black bladeBe funny if she gets shoved back into it.
>C’thun’s full body
>>580859987all 4 of them look badassif blizzard is smart they find a way to bring them back, top shelf villains for sure and now we see them in their full glory
>>580859987Not canon. But yeah, we killed them all while they were rooted little bitches. They probably have even more body mass lore-wise. I still can't believe they just killed off my beloved schizo old god...
Does the new updated graphics for wc3 covers ALL units? Saw someone on youtube saying you can only play the new campaign using it but i'm not sure if it's true
>>580860147I was so certain that Lor'themar would be the one to die in Midnight.Fucking guy is going to be the only named Blood Elf left standing.
>>580856410just go to e621 and put in tauren. it's on the first page
>we are going underground AGAIN next patchIt's blatant they jumbled up the story and THIS was meant to be the last patch of TWW.
>>580860371Grubby showed it off in a skirmish so it works on all units.
>>580860342Lorewise Yoggy is below all of Northrend so yeah
>Blizzard has spent 18 years trying to standardize the Warcraft lore>Fuck it (and fuck you), let's just create an alternate Warcraft with blue Elves and Undead fighting for the Light (lol) and wipe out 30 years of world-buildingThey literally don't give a fuck anymore, it's spectacular.
>>580859535I bet we are gonna stab in her in the tip of Sargera's sword somehow
>>580860408It's kind of annoying if you just shifted some stuff around in TWW and Midnight you'd get one very fucking narratively cohesive xpac.
>>580860530Undead could be holy priests since day 1. Now that holy priest put on some armor and is holding a weapon.
>>580860321Not sure how I feel about them basically turning Y'shaarj into Mephisto
>>580860371You can play the new campaign and PvP battles with the new graphics but you cannot play the previous campaigns with the new graphics and you can't play the new campaign with old graphics (reforged or original). It's kinda retarded.
>>580860530They aren't wiping anything out. That's like saying they wiped tbc after wod came out
>>580860530It's insulting to me that obviously the white women at the company are clearly too bored with the pre-existing races that they conjure up some made-up bullshit blue elf race just for OC donut steel statusI guess ogres, quilboar, gnolls, and naga are too fucking boring by themselves
>>580860530>forsaken priests have existed since day 1>an undead paladin was in naxx
I'll be honest, before it joined all the wisps around Archie's corpse, I was dreading that the particle effect was Sneedolands' Arthas soul mote.>>580860371>Saw someone on youtube saying you can only play the new campaign using it but i'm not sure if it's trueI saw a comment about the in-game cinematics being only in the new graphics, no idea about the actual gameplay. At least the new neutral hero has two models.
>>580860530Have you not seen the current state of the story lmao?
Is there really nothing today for retail at blizzcon? They have like 2 more wow forever panels
i think it's over no matter what they do, these devs are disabled
>>580860674That's more like saying they wiped the warcraft RTS franchise after releasing wowAnd that's up to interpretation, but the last warcraft game was in 2002
>>580860702Yeah its boring. Men only want to play as human males. Women want to dress up as female elves and say its literally me
>>580860746The moment I saw the sky elves I literally thought they were bringing back Shadowlands
>>580860408>Xalatath wants to go to the core of Azeroth>TWW has the coreway, literally the way to the core of Azeroth>actually nvm ethereals or some shit also goblins>now she wants to use the sunwell to reach the core (?????)>it works for some reason, back to the underground core after some troll fillerWhat a disjointed mess
>>580860702Quillboar and gnolls are barely civilized, no one wants to play them. Naga and ogre are still on the table, let's see how Forever's story progresses
What is it with WoW streamers being absolutely zooted
https://imgur.com/a/yHWFsNxinsanely good art of these fuckers, shame theyre dead
>>580860931Shut the fuck up faggot shill
https://jigex.com/8XwTqo
>>580861067either post sluty loli puzzles or dont bother
>>580860530The sky elves are retarded but if Forsaken Paladins break the lore for you then you didn't understand it very well in the first place and shouldn't care about what they're doing with it
>>580860342>But yeah, we killed themAren't C'thun and Yogg only subdued and neutralized? N'zoth got vaporized, and Y'shaarj was plucked out and crushed by Aman'Thul.
>>580859943KEK TRUE
>>580861067it better have anus showing or ATLEAST nipples
>>580861337chtun died for good in the medan comic, he was completely drained
>>580860408Yes, it's Danuser kino again. Comfy storytelling, hyper lore building and cool raids/dungeons are back on the menu boys.
Rare nuBlizzard cutie
>>580861337yogg and cthun are very much alive
>>580861457>in the medan comic,Pretty sure that's not canon anymore. Especially not that gary stu medan.
human males should have sex with female elves
femworg jiggies?
>>580861368plump
>>580860957how else are you gonna remain excited in a cesspit of stench at a con
>>580860530This BlizzCon and the whole Retail Forever thing is just a massive shitshow.Blizzard has somehow managed to disappoint me even though I didn't expect anything from them.
>>580861498>nuBlizzardshe exist in lore since forever bro she is literally part of the current undead leadership>>580861584it is canon but it doesnt matter they can just bring yogg back if they want to
>>580861584nta but my understanding is that the events of the comic are canon, aside from medan himself. it's kind of confusing.
>>580861762medan himself is canon but they hate him and refuse to use him
>>580861498You can thank, again, China for that. They put hyper sexo teen mommy in all their games
>>580860971hand painted?
>>580861584Nah, events of the comic is still canon. It's just now instead of Me'dan hard carrying everyone against Cho'gal/C'thun. Valeera and the rest of the crew managed to do it themselves which is even more laughable
PATCH NOTES? ANYONE INTERESTED IN 12.1 AT BLIZZARD????????? HELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOO BLIZZARD ENTERTAINERS ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THE ACTUAL GAME
this set is so good
>>580859987i'd tap that
>>580861498It's fucking crazy that they put out new Warcraft 3content in 2026 that is unapologetically in love with how badass and metal the Forsaken are in every respect and then you go to retail WoW and it's just a waiting room for Calia Menethil to woobify them all into becoming gray humans. It was different when retail WoW was basically the only driving force of the Warcraft brand but now it feels like a completely different IP compared to everything else getting new content.
>>580861498The guy also looks cool. Wish we could have forsaken like them.
why is there a separate thread for Forever anyway, there shouldn't be 4 different WoW threads
>>580861940all of castle nathria plate is good.
>>580861937Sorry, all resources went into wow forever. Thanks for funding classic+
>>580862058>why is there a separate thread for a completely different gameidk why are you gay
>>580861514>be cthun>assblasted by 40 niggers who kicked your door down and killed all your bug friends>anyway, chilling underground>a big ass demon sword comes crashing through your jacuzzi>fuckfuckfuckfuck its the titans>nothing happens after and for the next 10 yearsthey have to bring him back right? the world soul is right under him
>>580860530>>580860702>Retards be like "OMG WOW IS STARTING ANEW SO IT DOESN'T COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IT MADE IN RETAIL, WOWO IS BACK!!1">It's actually so the current crop of usual suspects can rewrite wow from the ground up with the same slop that ruined retailThese elves-but-blue-that-actually-were-always-there give me strong "my oc donut steel inserted in the official story" vibes. Their obsession with not making High Elves playable should a case study. Hell, since this takes place after Frozen Throne and (presumably) the same time as vanilla, the Blood Elves should already have been dabbled on demon juice for a while and got their green eyes to distinguish them from High Elves.Are these recolors even going rear their faggy heads in retail?
>>580861940I don't like the shoulders or helmet. Rest is good though.Also the heroic and elite are better colorways.
>>580860408>>580860904I think the original plot was for her to get the Core at the end of TWW then use the power from that to unleash a void invasion on Silvermoon.
Kinda hope Forsaken Kingdom ends up being successful. Sure the balancing is a mess currently on normal mode and hard mode, but it's got some nice bones here with the RPG system. Have some people work on an actual RTS down the line with the base building everyone wants while they keep pumping Rexxar and now Gareck style RPG campaigns into Reforged
>>580861940Shadowlands had terrible lore, but some of the transmogs are really geat.
>last titan is the last xpac>then all effort and dev time is going to wow forever20 years of your mounts, mogs, cheevos, all down the drainhundreds of people will unironically rope because of thisHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>580862538i had fun mountmogcheevoing and i am proud to be in the top500 globally for moggies collected
WoW forever is a better intro for new players than current retail. It would be nice if you could level in forever then transfer to retail.
>>580862648hope your parents don't find your body lil sis
Some posters think if they just get the WoW classic they've always dreamt of they'll magically also go back to being teenagers living at home with plenty of free time and no major worries in their lives.
>>580862538>>last titan is the last xpacThey said there are plans for more expansions.
>>580861940ruined by those awful boots
>>580862725i will just mountmogcheevo in worlo forever
>>580861940Hmm maybe I should farm for this. It looks nice
>>580862750ive got 300k invested and live in a cheap country. i dont have any major worries and lots of free time
>>580859943lmao nice
>>580855497>thinking digital toys are going to last forever. KWAB
>>580862538>Pepe Post>Brown Opinionerrytime. Sorry you got mindraped by WoW lil jit
>>580862662New players are going to miss Dragon isles and gay centaurs...
>>580862871most players will toggle your transmog off (invalidating all your gay effort)there aren't achievement, just 65 "level a rogue to 60" or "reach 300 enchanting" that the vast majority of players will havethere won't be a plethora of collectible mountsit's over for you
>>580862538no way they're doing that, if anything they are going to make WoW 2 where a lot of shit carries over. I would bet WoW Forever is another experiment to test attractability of MMO features before they pump in hundreds of millions and develop WoW 2
>>580862750People just want a fun version of WoW to play holy shit it's not that deep.
>>580863058>retoilet tranny in full cope modeyou love to see ityou're roping soon btw
>be brew>only play with phys comp>pull anything you want>kicks for days all over the place>play vdh>have to body pull>have to play with caster comp>boomkin uses beam once a dungeon>warlock has imp out for some reason in 2026>mage too busy casting arcane missiles 7000 times in a row to even bother using cs>ele doing the same with CL but might actually kick during eq gcd>bolt spammers everywhere>your main defensive CD is on a wahoo jackpot lottery hahabro....
>>580863134the toggle mog is such a pathetic cope lmaoare you going to toggle off the hd collector edition mounts?
>>580862538>700$ rug pull mount to fund WoW:F serversI hope Max knew about it...
I'm going to cry this is ridiculous this isn't fair what the fuck do you MEAN There isn't a day 1 release death knight character this is fucking bullshit its an established class you already have free undead it would cost them nothing just add it to the fucking game blizzard just add fucking death knights RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>580860643That's too retarded to be true.
>>580862538What is the point in farming for thousands of ugly ass mounts. Its like damn son. I'll just be happy I can get Invincible after wrath remix comes out
>>580863134theres already 100 mounts in the mount journal buckogoing home fags losted bigly and mountmogcheevoTITANS are eating GOOD
>>580863224forever is wow 2. that's why it was called wow 2 when datamining. the experiment was SoD.you're now playing the old, bad version of wow. sorry lil gup
>>580863316>spending 7 hundo in a game mode that will get put on life support after TLT
>>580863368ngl I enjoyed the phase of the game where players couldn't move my character against my will
im very edgy and unique buzz lightyear.jpg
>>580863482We've been on life support since DF
>>580863430>theres already 100 mounts in the mount journal buckothats a big claim, got any proof?
>>580863504i rate 10/10
>>580863429some of the metacheevo mounts are pretty good even if they're recolors, the purple birb and firehawk
>>580863368Just play human male warrior or human male paladin like a normal person, weirdo
>>580863504Sick mog, let him cook
>>580863384It's true, I tried all the combinations. The new campaign has a lot of new models so I guess they didn't want to make reforged and original ones. The original campaigns not having new graphics is retarded though.
>>580863616never reply to my posts again bitchboi
>>580863791I wonder if we will get the new campaign in Azeroth Reborn. I can't play old WC3 or reforged anymore after trying it.
>>580863459It's on the same fucking engine, it's not WoW 2. It's better than retail obviously, but it's not a "new" MMORPG
anyone else favorite every single flying mount and just use random mounts at all times? feel like a shitter when I mount a 2k mount up but it's pretty comfy
is this worth spending more crests to max out on my arms warrior?
>>580863950you dont have to favorite any mounts just drag the summon random mount button to your bar
>>580862538The classic/forever players will never outnumber the retails ones. Only retards want to look at 20 year old models and textures while playing a game.So the only reason to do this would be that the dev costs of forever are close to 0 and they want to drop WoW as a whole.
>>580863836>"100s of mounts">113vanilla had 72 obtainable mountsthis is just the new race's mounts plus a few others half of these you can't even obtain since they're opposite factionyou tried, lilgup
>>580864162>Only retards want to look at 20 year old models and textures while playing a game.You don't know much about Forever, do you?
>>580864037yea but then you get ground mounts which is bad
>>580862538You jest, but given the absolute state of worlo and this shit announced, I can see retail eventually ending like Star Trek Online: No major expansion nor level cap increase since forever. Horizontal progression systems to grind for every 0.1% of crit damage. Small self-contained story updates every x months. Monthly FOMO events. Endgame is a dps dick-measuring contest clearing an specific Task Force Operation as fast as possible and dress up. While Troonever get expanded and bloated back to retail proportions until they announce Troonever Classic
>>580864218>100snever said that you retarded golemgo masturbate or something
>>580864232Yeah they updated the lighting to "Montana" and you can switch to better player models but it still looks worse than 5 year old mobile games.
>>580864162lil sis you didn't hear? wow forever is getting unique HD models, animations, and lighting/graphic effectsit's ok, keep enjoying your wow 1.0 abandonware kek>>580864321>shifting goalpostsits over
>Players ask for playable high elves>Get void elves instead>Players ask for high elves again>Get a new random flavor of elf yet againWHO KEEPS DOING THIS??
>>580860530>Blizzard has spent 18 years trying to standardize the Warcraft loreNo they haven't. Hearthstone exists as a completely silly nonsense AU that they occasionally bring over (explorer's league characters, tortollan, etc) to the mainline game if they feel like it. Every time they put out a thing like Chronicles the thing is retconned within an expansion and nerds asking shit about lore inconsistency is often met with "lmao I don't know". You people said the same shit about SoD as a nonsense AU thing and "Blizzard is really shooting themselves in the foot by having two versions of the story". They don't give a fuck. They didn't even bother to frame Forever via their ultimate I win lore button of the bronze dragonflight timeline shit. They straight up do not care. Forever will come out, exist in whatever context it does, and Blizzard will never once give a fuck about clarifying its canon status. There is no hypothetical player who starts with Forever, moves on to Retail (a game with 20+ years of changes) and goes fetal after realizing they cannot find Diremaul North by Southeast in the dungeon finder at level 55.
>>580864162If only there was a comparable modern MMO that has two games running in tandem where the OLDSCHOOL one has over twice as many players ....
>>580864381Bro take the L already
>>580864381he says while making shit up lolololol
>the forever shitposters are just baiting and trolling other forever shitposterskek this is hilariously sad
>>580864435They would have done high elves this time but they couldnt justify selling you a race that already exists for 30 bucks so they recoloured them and claimed it was a "new" one instead
>>580864435>WHO KEEPS DOING THIS??
>>580864514>making shit upoh my sweet summer child
>>580863275Mindraped by Blizzard and continues to post in these threads for years afterYou love it
>Shadowmeld has been terrorizing both pvp and m+ for years on retail>they make a balanced version of it on Forever that doesn't drop you from combat>retail still no changes
>>580864162>The classic/forever players will never outnumber the retails ones. Only retards want to look at 20 year old models and textures while playing a game.debunked when anni completely mogged retail when TBC released
>>580864846>that doesn't drop you from combatit a vanish and it drops you from combat
>>580864435Me
>>580864846forever is wow 2 anon
>all this retailfag copeholy shit, they're afraidwarcraft forever is going to turn retail into the TORtanic
WoW Forever is reset of WoW retail
>>580864974Not on Forever. If you use it in combat it just acts as a Fade. If you use it outside of combat it's a full stealth.
So when does day 2 start at blizzcon?
>>580865128Dunno one of the streamers said it was just like a vanish
>>580865154it's up already but its esport shit, dive is in 1h
>you can't transfer your collection from retail to forever
>Another Blizzon where they put Thrall on all the advertising and he's not relevant in anything they announce. Just. Should've put Sylvanas instead
>>580865285at this point you people don't even know what do shitpost about
Retail has>Jimothy>gay centaurs>mountsmogscheevos>EVERY. WINDRUNNER. SISTER. MIC DROPClassic has......?Yeah. We have nothing to fear.
>>580865154are there any announcements or is it qna day
So...i kinda want to return to rogue..
>>580851753>but we're now gonna be back to boring frostbolt spam.Frost has Ice Lance as a talent.
Why did Ion kill this game and only cater to Liquid and Echo? I noticed he was the only one talking about that RWF on stage yesterday. Does he seriously think most people cares about this fake sport? I can imagine Holly just facepalming and sighing back stage
>>580846564this looks fucking awfulwhy is the West so bad at making MMOs?
>>580865358retail has cringe but classic has literally nothing.
>>580865358this. so much this. we're eating good retailbros. new gay centaur story arc and sylvanas aura farm moment dropping soon.
>>580864435what are you going to dostay subbed?pay for each expac every single year like a good little goy à la brown people playing fifa on console?cry on reddit but still playing 50h+ a week
>>580865358uh...farming elites as world content? Doing the same braindead dungeons / raids with no mechanics? Spamming 2 abilities as a "rotation"?
>My retail frends are not interested in foreverIt's over for me...
>>580863954You can save one hero upgrade if you send full champ on a given slot.
>>580865650>uh...farming elites as world content? Doing the same braindead dungeons / raids with no mechanics? Spamming 2 abilities as a "rotation"?World of Warcraft: Midnight
no king rules forever
>>580865726mazies?
>>580865867Arenafag and raidfag
>>580865726my friend which I half forced to buy and try midnight was streaming the intro quests and couldnt stomach that shit and asked for a refund right before my eyessent me a dm on insta telling me : "lets try that shit with a controller Im interested" lolmind you this dude is better than 99.9% of this general (8persons during peak hours) so it was funny to me
>pillar-humping >the game
I've never been convinced it's so over for WoW.Imagine dumping 20 years of development just to go back to the drawing board because of nostalgiafaggots.Then letting corporate slap a blue troon $30 paypig class.Horizontal progression? Professions? Does anyone seriously think a company that is now as incompetent as Blizzard can do these successfully rather than being designed by committee or corpos?Max level will always be 60? Meaningful leveling? How long will it take to reach level 60 that will be "meaningful"? A month? Two months? Six months? Is there enough content that won't bore people in that time, being stuck at level 30 for weeks?Then there's horizontal progression. WoW’s entire gameplay loop was hardcoded around gear score and seeing your numbers go up. WoW’s itemization is too shallow for horizontal progression because its stats don’t offer real build diversity. Gear in WoW is just a basic stat-stick of Primary Stat + standard secondaries that players instantly solve with a simulation tool. They literally have to redesign whole sections of the game from stats, builds, classes, drops, and content to make this actually noticeable.
any other classic chads lurking here just to saltmine and drink retailfag tears?
>>580866092>class.
>>580865726My guild is just raidloggers and we already got 5 people signed up as absent for the entire November. There is no shot we're killing Ulakek before it launches anyway. Got like 10 messages where I'm playing on Forever already from people who quit retail years ago as well. The only reason I keep playing atm is because I wanna kill Xally on mythic but I think my guild won't survive this tier.
>>580864435>People ask for undead paladins.>Get them.
Max was NOT Happy with how much effort they putting in forever...
>>580866005>>580866242the caffe barista won...
>>580866204Havent played classicHavent played SODJust here to doompost out of pure hatred for retail wow
>>580865154>>580865362Stream went live, 27 minutes
>>580866360I kneel...
>>580866092I also don't get what they mean by horizontal progression. They basically have to copy OSRS and scrap everything.
>>580866437The horizontal shit is a community meme tho.
>>580866302Liquid Max?
just completed my first mythic dungeon ama
*bong rip*void elves*exhale*earth elves*cough*sky elves
>>580866302I would be mad if they actually tried but considering the shit they are doing and the nothing roadmap? I know you guys are just shitposting but some people actually are excited for this trash and the blue elves lmao.
>>580866598Dood.......Weed elves....
>>580866092They said they want to make the World the protagonist again. If they can make the focus of the game leveling and hanging out in the world, it won't matter that there's no "content", because the content will be player interactions and socialization.
>>580866745>because the content will be player interactions and socialization.not him but they said the same about classic and it became nothing but raidlogging after a month or so because player interactions are not big enough to keep it alive and discord already killed the in game "socialization"
is anything of interest happening in day 2 of blitz con?
The guild I joined hasn't even killed a single heroic boss yet.... I feel bad about quitting and leaving them without a good dps
I have played GW1 and GW2 my whole life. I've always wanted to try WoW but after getting everything legendary in GW2 I feel like I'm finally burnt out for the last time and want to try a new MMO.Which version do I play, regular or classic? Also, can I play through all of the main story without needing to party with others? Or will I need to group up and do raids/dungeons to progress?
>>580866902The forever deep dive if you're into that
>>580866865I know what they said is marketing marketing and wishful thinking and they don't have good track records and it will most definitely not go that way but it's for sake of discussion
>>580866965well I just want to know what they are willing to do to keep it alive because pretending players talking to each other and lvling another alt is not enough
>>580866951Just wait until Forever comes out. Play that to learn the game and if you feel like doing some ballcrushing raids and dungeons then come to retail.
>>580866525Our game director yes
>>580866092They said it. Those capitalist pigs aren't even trying to hide anymore. They don't want to make a game, they want to make a social space to sell stuff and use your data. You don't need gear, you don't need progress, just log in and buy stuff with real money. Link your twitter, your pigbook, your discord, your tiktok, watch ours ads and pay us.
They just need to add M+ to Forever but the rewards you get are on Worldsoul.Forever gets endless replayability without getting bloated to shit with mounts toys transmogs etc.Win win.
>>580867214Any clips of him being salty about Forever?
>>580867445retardbro...
>>580867445https://www.twitch.tv/maximum/clip/WiseLaconicLatteCmonBruh-YwgYQBWXNs3ZzXZj?range=7d
>World of Warcraft has distinct elemental damage types, but the resistance system has mostly been removed from modern gameplay. [>WoW features multiple specific damage types tied to the classic elements and magic schools:>While these damage types still exist for spell schools, interrupts, and cosmetic/clas>What Happened to Resistances?>Early/Classic WoW: Resistances (Fire, Frost, Nature, Shadow, Arcane) were a major mechanic. Guilds literally had to farm entire sets of specific resistance gear (like Fire Resistance gear for Molten Core raids) just to survive certain bosses.Are they bringing this back? Asked Google if WoW had resistances.
Max doesn't even play retail.
>>580867773So doesnt ion
>>580867630>that's how I know its not for medamn this could be played as an ad for Forever
>>580867859very nice english saar
>>580867203
>>580867906>no argumentnice brain retard
>>580868019bloody benchoid I praised you!
>>580868094so did i
>>580867317>"They should add M+ to this!"t. least mazed rat
>>580868221>forever trannies calling other people mazedkek
>WoW retoilet patch trailer only has 200k views>WoW forever has over 1m views after a daybros... it's fucking over
>>580864435someone said earlier is probably to avoid murdering a factionif a faction got high elves and the other didnt nobody would play it lol
Only a chud would have a problem with us killing an objectively evil character.
>>580868352Is anyone beside max and co. even like midnight unironicly?Patches been dogshit (so much so self addmitted)Story was dogshitLoot was dogshitthe dungeons are dogshit
edging
>>580868352this SOVL bullshit has been one xpac cut up into 3 and sold at 90 dollars a poppeople want to see ion shot for this
ForeverChads won...They fucking won...
>>580868415make them neutral bro is that easy>>580868459furtroon they said he will survive the encounter
>>580868352>entire new game mode vs a patchle... yeah?you been fucked stupid or something? dumb slut
>>580868285>game about expanding and exploring the world of azeroth>"B-But where's my MAZE Blizzard????"You're too far gone.
>>580868352retail wow is just gonna become runescape 3... its fucking over for us
ADD FEMGOBS TO FOREVERADD FEMGOBS TO FOREVERADD FEMGOBS TO FOREVERADD FEMGOBS TO FOREVERADD FEMGOBS TO FOREVER
>design new classes for this shitty minigame>they look goodwhy the fuck wont they just develop stuff for the actual game instead of shit nobody will play
>>580868415High elves on allianceBlood elves on hordewow that was so difficult, no wonder blizz cant figure it out
>>580868352The Warcraft 3 trailer has more views (actual dead game)The Hearthstone monk trailer has more views (actual dead game)Nobody gives a shit about Runescape 3-I mean retail WoW doing yet another patch about helping Boy Scout Protagonist fight Vagueposting Villain
>>580868523>handsShe should've casted with her feet.
>>580868482Retail has had the same basic problems since Legion of being the same shit over and over. The only people who seem to enjoy the game are those who come back after a lengthy break so the novelty of it all comes back a bit.
>>580868616>exploring the world of azerothI'm sure you are going to be mazed forever walking around the world piggy
>>580868595holy cope
>>580868732>why the fuck wont they just develop stuff for the actual gameforever should not have to many classes tho
Bros... Xal'atath is at the worldsneed... nobody seems to care and are only interested in forever slop....
>>580868813what the fuck does forever have to do with this stupid ass roguelike mode theyre making
https://www.youtube.com/live/Duqv2j_7XSgStarts in 2 minutes, deep dive on WoW FOREVER
>>580868679They're in goblin towns where they belong.
nobody plays goblins
Deep dive to Retail Forever soon!
>>580868790>Retail has had the same basic problems since Legion of being the same shit over and over. The only people who seem to enjoy the game are those who come back after a lengthy break so the novelty of it all comes back a bit.it is what it isAlso i think their plan of bouncing different version of wow is dumbIts fine for something like remix which is like a minigame/funserver but i dont think, no matter what you prefer, people gonna bounce between forever and retailLike why would bounce between the version of the game and groan when one is more to your liking?Its like bouncing between dmc2 and dmc3
Sillu?
>>580868934Make them playable!>>580869001I do.
he won
Where are they in the real game? Are they another Hairynear "they were there all along chud you just didn't see them" situation?
>>580846084>hunter in forever>20% lone wolf>already 1500 aimed crits>1200 multi crits>in dungeon blues>still can't earn a dps spot in raidsIt's fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. In the 6 seconds(gcd+4 second cast +2 second travel time) it takes a hunter to dish out an 1800-2k aimed, if it crits, the warrior hits the boss 8 times for a combined 4-5k. The Hunter didn't need more burst damage. The Hunter needed DPS through synergy and scalability. A good start would have been making the pet immune to all AOE effects. That's an easy 250dps right there. Maybe boost pet damage by a flat 10%. But the Hunter did not need more burst.
wait i thought people were meming yesterday that guys name is claystone?kek
>random disconnect>again super cool
>>580869169>Where are they in the real game? Are they another Hairynear "they were there all along chud you just didn't see them" situation?That's everything in WoW now because there's never any plans beyond the next season of COONTENT
>>580869157qrd on the jailer?
>>580869024because it already worked for a while but people eventually gave up on classic shit so they are making this new retail lite game for retail players
>clay>stonewhat sort of name is this
The performative outrage over forsaken paladins is pretty much the biggest tourist/grifter self-report and its hilarious
id let clay stone do a deep dive on me if you know what im putting down
Im just gonna leaf this here.. https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/worldsoul/eu/armory/character/argent-dawn/Chibiusa
FATTGREND
>>580869169They've always been in game, the lore is that Aszhara cursed them to be completely invisible to anyone who is secretly gay.
>let me welcome someone to the stage that needs very little introduction>generic fat man walks onto stage
>>580869225>it workeddid it tho?Im not saying there is 0 crossover or that i have absolute data but i dont think the guy who is heroic/mythic raiding retail or speedrunning m+ is the crowd that want to fill the bar killing 1000 furbolgs and vice versaI agree that it worked at the initial lauunch of classic if you mean that
forever won
>>580869169All killed by Al'Akir by the time of CataclysmSay "Thank you"
>aggrend still inShamans still broken confirmed.
>>580869169Id imagine there will be some footnote that they went extinct in the regular timeline, similar to how we saw things in WoD that weren't present in Outland
>"take it slow and easy" Damn they really going for that cozy shit aggressively
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN SILVERMOON ANYMORE GET ME OUT AAAAIIIEEEEE
This is POV of what my character is up too right now...https://files.catbox.moe/1w0w0o.png
Camping is kino
NEW FEATURE:/sit/afkWOAHHHHHHHHHH
>>580869504>did it tho?yeah it did but only for a while, the third release of vanilla was just too much and people stop playing classic but this new mode is retail lite with remade raids so it will work for a while as well >>580869675thats the usual cope about classic players caring about lvling and walking around pretending they don't dungeon boost and use efficient lvling guides
>>580869696bruh can you give it a restthere are boards for you to post this shit on
>>580869675I'm gonna go fast and hard because I'm a disgusting endgame optimiser thank you very much.
sex with this
>>580869576>take elementals>paint elves to look like them>$29.99+tip
>>580869675its literally uncslop/womanslop
>>580869696>>580869793How about you both just die, or go to a discord
>mogs you out of your slutmog to post your dungeon green ass hereheh, nothingpersonal
>never play classic>make a new character because im hype for forever>decide to do cata since it technically takes place in vanilla zones even if its different>feel nostalgicmake it make sense
>>580869696based, what did he jork it too?
Is it true they are abandoning retail for Forever after The Last Titan?
>>580869835yes please
we need this on retail wtf
>forever is already getting qol upgrades that retail wishes they had
Is gathering, crafting and professions going to be important like in other MMOs? In WoW they were always non-essential. In other MMOs, they're often the only if not the best way to acquire gear, including the best gear. Are they really going to shift from a drop-based culture to a crafted one? Or will everything still be dropped and rewarded?
>everyone in the group gets the t-mog in pugs>literal fix that is better than retail againUnironically over and im not even a classic fag
>>580870071No. Daddy Illidan will fly in riding on Sargeras' head, get the sword out and then stab other titans with it.
>>580869986a fair amount of cata zones are barely changed from their vanilla counterparts, either in quests or geography or both. the human zones are a good example of how nonsensical it all is: elwynn is basically the exact same zone with no timeline progression with minor quality of life changes, westfall is a fullblown sequel with huge changes, redridge is the exact same zone with no timeline progression story-wise but a completely different series of quests full of memes and movie references, duskwood is basically the exact same zone with no timeline progression with minor quality of life changes
>>580870132you mean like in retail when you craft shit that's as good as the raid gear and you pick the stats?
>Doing new WC3 campaign>Finally get to the bit where Garithos is relevant>It's not even main story relevant, he's a throw away optional quest.Uh, Garithos sissies, your guy???
>>580869169Literally, they somehow moved to Skywall and been living among air elementals praising Allah- I mean, the giant djinn that is Al'Akir.
>>580870169Sounds like something that would happen in World of Warcraft: Forever. But Illidan will be blue and Sargeras head will have a rainbow trail.
CAN YOU FUCKING TELL ME WHY DONT WE GET THE TMOG GROUP UNLOCK IN RETAIL ????????????????????????????????
ober and ober again
ayy lmao
i hate this stupid spic bitch
cootie
>>580870241>soulbound
>>580870238i quested through elwynn and decided to go to duskwood and im really enjoying it. im trying to run everywhere instead of flying. its a nice break between m+ runs and shit
>>580870464Because in retail I can't need roll a leather item as a plate class.
>>580870487>>580870493That's a man
>>580870464Different game. They're diverging completely. Like the China client.
i dont want to be racist etc but what the fuck is this
the best thing to come out of Worlo Warca Forv is the Mountaineer transmog, desu.
>Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced>Opens a portal to wow Forever
>>580870736Recolor Nicolas Cage, to go with the recolored elves.
pirate streams?
>it does even have a trackits really retail minus lol
>>580870464because the devs of classic actually care about the game while retail devs are trying to save a sinking ship
>>580870859
>"Dis tiny liddle bur"This bitch is cute
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duqv2j_7XSgIt' up!
our fuarking hero Aggrend, sodbros
>>580870998>>580870953kek
Why didn't they just fix Retail?
That's a man
HUH???????I can't understand what the fuck shes saying
>>580869675And 95% of people are still going to pay chinese boosters to clear dungeons for them nonstop while they afk
>>580871162it happens when you're eslits ok
>theyre putting legitimate nerds on stage instead of pr plants to build hypeits giving me dangerous amounts of hope anons...
>The toxic ragnaros player in your dungeon looks like this
>>580871162you know she was just chosen to appeal to the 56% mutt american spic population
>>580871070It easier to fix a "new" game then changa a existing one:>try to remove flying>hissy fit>make raids easier>hissy fitand so on and so onWow devs are also made out of candy they mentally breakdown when people dunk on them, especially streamers
>>580871154>>580870701someone needs to study this phenomenon where right wingers fantasize about every woman being a man
>>580871205no one is taking it nice and slow because every class is doing retarded high dps
>>580871292kek
REALMLESS IN RETOILET WHEN?
>WoW is becoming serverlessIT'S OVER
EU and NA worlog on one realm
>The Last Titan is a huge success>WoW forever is a huge failureThis is my prediction. Blizzard will come crawling back with their tails between their legs when they realize that nobody likes their disney WoW.
>All of that big roundabout story just to reveal they're going serverlessThis is a very cute presentation, I love it. This little nerd bitch is the hottest Blizz girl so far.
>they fixed realms in forever before retailloooooooolwe really are Runescape 3
lets goo!
RP ruleset where the real niggas at
Realmless helps them hedge on if forever dies after 2 months so there aren't a bunch of dead realms.
>>580871461wtf how i can get invited to asmon layer??
>>580871364>make raids easier>hissy fitAre you retarded? people are going insane right now because the raid is too hard.>>580871469Forever will be a huge hit on release but then it will become another ghost town because a new faceroll raid every few months is not enough unless they do something drastic.
>rip day/night cycle
bros... Forever is mogging us with no realms...Ion promised mega servers like 6 years ago... what the FUCK
there have been a bunch of people playing wow forever at blizzcon since yesterday. wheres the info on the updated classes and talent trees and shit?
>>580871070Because unfortunately you can't get away with sacking your entire writing team when you need to still release products on a bi yearly schedule
>>580871604>Are you retarded? people are going insane right now because the raid is too hard.Quick tell me the 3 streamers who got the last 3 interviews with ionquestions they asked>harder mythic raids>that they should keep 20 fixed rmythic raid size>more m+>more ilvl grindmax, tettles and co. all asked for this
>>580871292would.
>>580871671Wowhead has a talent calculator with a toggle to see changes from classic
>>580871637they will probably shard these realms based on closest local server with its own realm time
>>580871671They are playing on their computers anon they can't take screenshots and post it online.>>580871759That's factually wrong but it's pretty obvious you're only shitposting so ok.
>>580871469I thought retail wow was disney wow, I dont keep up with the hivemind
>blood elf playerhehe
>>580871831>That's factually wrong Are you gonna argue max wants less harder raids and less raidlogging?
Do you choose RP/PVP on character creation and it can't be turned off?
>You get grouped based on the language you pick
chudbros I can't farm these PvE clowns????
>>580871983you can select mode in character select screen then log in to mode
>>580871935You should be able to post clips of max saying he want harder raids and raidlogging if that's the case. It's weird you people post this kind of shit about max when the only game he play is fellowship because it's a casual version of m+.
>filtering entire playerbase by langaugelmfao based filtering brazilians out of my game
>>580871781none of them are updated
wrong chris
why is Forever mogging us bros
>>580871805i understood it as one mega server with 4 rulesets and 10000 layers who are split into geographical locations. so you think we connect to shards, which are subdivided into layers? and those shards are connected to each other? isn't that just realm pools with connected auction houses but without the realm suffix next to the players name?
>>580872149You can't run away from me
>thinking Ion will make good content or decide to introduce changes like megaserversThis is who's behind the wheel, let's not be delusional. If Forever isn't a flop I'm letting my officers know I'm quitting for good, fuck this hamster wheel gaming.
Yeah im going to comfy wow
>>580872203https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/mage
Failing to see how any of that wasn't just the typical layering with a bit of extra weighting that you can choose
>hello blizzon*crickets*what did he mean by that?they say it in such a soulless corposlop way tooonly chris metzen can say hello blizzcon and get a reaction from the crowdfuck this corpo-blizz i dont like iti dont like it at all
>>580872149>pick englishwhat now>>580872386>I'm letting my officers know I'm quittingbro he quit like 5 years ago
this is presentation for playersthis is presentaion for microsoft to not fucking shut them down holy fuck
>>580872386
>>580872340It's 4 mega realms divided by their rulesets.
>>580872387crowd control as stunning mobs to stop casts/swings or crowd control as lol sap/sheep mobs before we pull because the latter fucking sucks
>>580872559Blizzard makes more money than Activision now bwo
>>580872360>mass report you for spamming in mexican>you get chat silenced for 30 days
First explicit confirmation that retail devs are being poached to work on Forever
>>580872713so NA and EU can play together?
>no way to become imbalamenot playing
>>580872437The speakers are charisma vacuums and the announcements are shit but the crowd are also awful.Terrible Blizzcon all around.
>>580872810>others in the same region
>Wanting a bunch of nerd devs to be super charismaticMetzen is a rare breed
>>580872713Realmless because it's going empty as fuck after the first week. People don't want to play another mmorpg (an alternate WoW is not WoW).They want to play WoW (past-classic and present-retail).
lmao they spent more on this than midnight
>>580872387>Keep Classes DistinctSo in juxtaposition, they are admitting that retail classes became generic?
>>580872810>huehuehuehuehue gib moniescan't wait!
>>580873031the giga autistic DND greybeard gamer+programmer archetype retired of the 2000s retired years ago sadly
>>580873095idk prevoker and resto druid feel completely different
>>580873095retail classes must be balancer all around because of the content, the content in classic is a meme so it doesnt matter
>>580873095You can take it that way, the more generous would be distinict as opposed to retail
>>580873062The WorldSoul Saga was a fucking failure from start. Of course they ignore it.
>>580873031Metzen is a coke nerd. He raised his social skill cap with stimulants and farmed it, then it stayed that way even when he wasn't under the influence.
>>580872810VVVVGGGGHHH the private server kino 24/7 activity across all time zones
is this male of female
>>580873095i consider it a black mark on anyone who admits to having any knowledge of retail wow.
WOW FOREVER SLOP ALREADY DOA
>>580873376brother this is the retail thread
GIVE US A VULPERA UPDATE FFS
lot of nerfs
>>580873505
>play undead rogue with poisons>have more regeneration than if a healer was pocketing you
>>580872149>>580872089Thank fuck. No more russians!
Retail after this blizzcon. Beaten but not defeated
>>580873315That's a real nerd girl and you're a faggot if you wouldn't
>>580873440and yet 90% of the posts in this thread are about the new classic
>>580873618that's because you and the other shitposters are spamming lmao
RETBULLS WINNING BIGLY IN CLASSIC+
>nothing for retail left on scheduleis it over?
>>580871070Because people would riot if they tried to sell new races for $30 in retail. But in WoW Forever they can now sell new expansions, new mounts, new races, new zones, new class packs, new weapon packs, new animation packs......it will be the worse than the China version, just for global.
Still playing retail. Not touching your FOTM FOMO crap. Have fun, retards.
>>580873712when your class is pure shit like ret was in vanilla there is nowhere to go but up especially when they are just copypasting retail shit, ret is great on retail
>PvP realm players already shitting their diapers at the thought that they cant camp low level zones for 22 hours a day for free kills anymore
>#nochanges Classicfags in stream chat realising that Forever is going to become Retail-liteel oh elWhat did they think Classic+ made by modern Blizzard would be?
Reminder that TLT will be the last retoilet expansion. Tick tock.
>>580873757do retoilet players riot when they have to buy a new expansion every 1.5 years?
>>580873939deflecting is not going to save you lil unc
>>580874013>>580874013>>580874013MOVE
>>580872713>RPers, I'll see you there!>Trying to force RPers because they know RP server were DEAD on classic>Mostly because non-RPers ruined them and rolled them for 'kino'.>Same thing will happen again
>>580873903era realms are right there for all the #nochanges faggots to enjoy, yet for some reason they dont wanna jump into the massive pile of shit every classic realm becomes once enough of the population is level 60
>>580871070They have to make a story and shit for retail, for nu-wow they don't need any of that, they just need to sell stuff. 200k players already pre-ordered blue elves, classic andies will LITERALLY buy anything.
>>580861498You just KNOW
>>580873616based
>>580873315would
will there be more deep dives? anything for patch 12.2 ?
>>580871070Because they can't. They want people to explore more but they can't remove flying for example, even delaying flight is not acceptable anymore.
