previous >580870726What is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
WoW Forever looks great
pvpers literally starving right now, not a single thing mentioned outside of a reskinned EOTS
GIVE ME PANDAS
WoW Forever looks shit
I'm toggling
>>580876239>hunter in forever>20% lone wolf>already 1500 aimed crits>1200 multi crits>in dungeon blues>still can't earn a dps spot in raidsIt's fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. In the 6 seconds(gcd+4 second cast +2 second travel time) it takes a hunter to dish out an 1800-2k aimed, if it crits, the warrior hits the boss 8 times for a combined 4-5k. The Hunter didn't need more burst damage. The Hunter needed DPS through synergy and scalability. A good start would have been making the pet immune to all AOE effects. That's an easy 250dps right there. Maybe boost pet damage by a flat 10%. But the Hunter did not need more burst.
WoW Forever looks okay
Thirens added to Forever when?
pvp will be the true endgame this time
inv to asmon layer
>>580876239I'm only interested in Hardcore Forever.
OP DEMANDS WOW GOONING CONTENT
Retail- slop for retail trannies.
mega server will be shit
>human>male>pally>classic graphics>/4 lfg stocks ret dpsyep, it's time
FEM NELF WOYER>FEM NELF WOYERFEM HUMIE PALLY>FEM HUMIE PALLY
>mounts!>mogs!>cheevos!yeah, you're totally not playing retail anon
yeah im ready
Are they adding new quests in some of the already barren areas? Or are the new 1000 quests just in the new areas
ITS NOT RETAIL STOP CRYING>ITS NOT RETAIL STOP CRYING ITS NOT RETAIL STOP CRYING>ITS NOT RETAIL STOP CRYINGCONSUME GOY STOP CRYING ALL TOGETHER IN DIVERSITY TOGGLE IT ALL LIKE ME IRL>TOGGLE IT ALL LIKE ME IRL
>don't mind me just standing next to this black lotus spawn point and rerolling through the 50 layers with the one other retard and 20 bots
They missed their chance to make it f2p and hike up the playerbase one last time before pulling the plug in a few years
Classic +++++++++++++++++
>Completely vanilla monsters with 0 upgrades or buffs>Buffed broken racials>Buffed broken talents>Huge ridiculous itemization changes, all of which are buffsWho the FUCK thought this was a good idea? We're going to fucking breeze through the game. This is so ass.
Hardcorechads win yet again
private server trannies are seething
I will be bold and play female human mage
https://youtu.be/g0EFlnpUcmMOH NO NO NO NOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>580876539it really do be like this tho
So how many weeks until this slop collapses?It's obviously going to spike, and retards already shilled out $30-$60 to the merchants for it so there's massive sunk cost.But how fast do you figure the falloff is? 4 weeks? 6? 12? I think 12 is the high end guess by far, probably drop at least 65% within 4 weeks.
>>580876523>>Completely vanilla monsters with 0 upgrades or buffssource ?
>>580876456You do realise you didnt have to buy the blue elves, you can play forever with just your subscription
>>580876539they're losing their minds
>>580876348there is some kind of new pvp system but they haven't explained it yet
>>580876565>some random horrible russian voiceinstant close
BRVTAL
>>580876539They just can't help it.
>>580876456poorfag
so what will the ud pally mount look like? just a holy horse skeleton?
doomers trying to fud so hard. you lostHOLLY WON
>>580876523they said it takes on average 15 seconds to kill a yellow mob but who knows, it's pr
>>580876604I want to be a skelf shammy
>>580876539denials incoming
>>580876661They didn't think that far ahead
>>580876051any video or clips of this?
>>580876278>optimized dungeon/questing routeand when you follow said questing routes, your best weapons are white vendor weapons every 10 levels. you don't actually play classic wow. i do. and there is an ocean of difference between leveling an alt where you buy gear upgrades every 5 lvls from the AH to playing a fresh character on a fresh realm
>>580876640More people care about the shitty reforged expansion, sad.
Enjoy your little vacation, then get ready to come home early next year.
Add draenei right now or else ill call your game retail holly
>>580876490kek
>nillafags sobbing and seething ITT because /wowcg/ is fucking deadI welcome you with open arms, you miserable, tasteless, contrarrian faggots. Please keep bitching and moaning that I might indulge in your misery. Your game is dead. Classic is ours now.
>>580876582Streamers will keep it alive for 6 months, 2 regular playthrough, 4 hardcore event
>>580876741>Heavensward 2Who asked for this?
>4channelers desperately trying to nitpick any ridiculous thing they canThis is how you know it's good.
>>580876447>thinking he can use a global chat channel on megaserverLol, lmao. This is why they added dungeon finder. They decided to use megaserver bullshit without thinking then realized their mistake and just added in instant group teleporting dungeon bullshit. Retail- here we come!
>Private server third worlders and xivtroons crine about #changes
>>580876380>>580876451>>580876490>>580876507>>580876523
>>580876380delete this...
>>580876523classic WoW has always been easy, go play mythic raids in retail if you really need insane overstimulating challenges
im going to start a guild that exclusively recruits hardcore failures
>>580876456>>580876658>goycattle jerking each other off over their subservience to their mastersHahahaha
>add dwarf hunter larp>also add mace spec so they have a dead racial slotwhat did blizz mean by this
>>580876741ffx14 LMAOjust play wow forever bro like everyone else
>>580876456>65I thought it was 60?
>>580876604i paid for guaranteed beta access blue High Elves are just a bonus :^)>>580876658Bezos-sama I kneel
>>580876765>>nillafags AND RETOLEITFAG sobbing and seething ITT because /wowcg/ and /wowg/ is fucking dead>I welcome you with open arms, you miserable, tasteless, contrarrian faggots. Please keep bitching and moaning that I might indulge in your misery. Your game is dead. WoW is ours now.
>>580876741>14>relevantkek
I'm about to shell out 60 bucks to access the beta and I want to be mocked for it
Reminder Pserfs, Nillers, TBCkeks and Moppies all had their games implode simultaneously so they are now lashing out like rabid raccoons
>>580876760post more draenei ass
>>580876640how is /wowg/ holding up? can someone report?
Reminder there was 0 indication that you could swap rulesets or that warmode is in. There'll 4 megaservers for each of the 4 rulesets.
>>580876640
>>580876674nah, if they have spellpower on all gear it will be like playing my lvl 39 fire mage twink except vs. normal mobs.you will fireball noncrit 2 times to kill a mob.vanilla mob scaling isnt designed for that.
>>580876640no one fucking cares about TLT because everyone knows about it for yearsthem acting like there is some fucking huge twist in Midnight or something is just retarded, they should have just revealed the shit
>>580876582probably 6 months?game is beta, then launch with 1 month wait until raids release, then its 6-7 months of onyxia and hyjal before phase 2
When does the name reservation thing start?
>>580876795>This is why they added dungeon finderFaggots will keep repeating this thinking it's RDF when it's objectively not and if just a way to manually list groups like in TBC.
>>580876835>like everyone else lmao no one is gonna bother with this garbage after month 1
do we seriously think this shit wont die as fast as sod did?
STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKETHESE ARENT CHANGES US /wowp/ PRIVATE SERVER CHADS WANTEDWHY IS IT PAID I CANT AFFORD THE NEW RACES AIEEEEE
>>580876969oct 27th
FOREVER SEETHING
>>580876917most of the posts are about forever and retailtards are seething
>>580876760Give it ~6 months anon, they will add Nethedar, a heretofore unheard of faction of Void Draenei, that you can cosmetic to look like whatever anyway.You vill pay ze 35 shekels for them.
>>580876539Why would they though? There will literally be a Forever private server up and running within months of launch, except they will remove the tranny elves and all the mtx.
>>580876974>no one is gonna bother with this garbage after month 1You could say that about every FFXIV expansion
>>580876903i hate agreeing with a frogposter but yeah the crowd on 4chan crying is mostly just salty tbckeks and private server players who got raped and tourists coming to shitpost
>>580876760based wowgooner
FOMODIESFOREVER
>>580876903Private servers got sued to get them to shutdown, you boot licker
>>580876917not even /wowg/ gives a shit about teh last toilet
>>580876640>modern games get tens of millions of views if they are actually culturally significant>even the best effort yet shittiest attempt they have made in recent years cant even break 2 milly>guys look, mogged!!this.. is a choice!
none of this PVP shit matters btwIce Mages got Ice Lance, you're just going to get raped by fingers of frost Ice lance mages
>>580876834didn't you see the cinematic? dwarf hunters are disney pacifist cucks now that pick flowers and frolick about. what do they need a racial slot for?
>>580876741wuklamao
>>580876760Posteded moreded niche draenei art
yesterday the quality of this thread was a lot better.
>FOREVER is dead after 1-2 months haaaaaahahahahaha enjoy blizzdrones
>>580876917Last I checked it was just 3 AI jeets spamming on cooldown.
>Everybody complaining about paid races (SIlly but justified)>Come to 4chan>Entire classic community is mad their 20 year old private servers are all dead immediately
the level 19 staff of westfall had like 48 healing and 16 or 18 spellpower. this is literal level 50 stats
>>580876856You're right, anon. This one is better.
I don't think we'll be getting a bingo
>>580877064>try to look up pregnant bad ends with orcs and human girls>literally just 1 Whitemane and 1 Jaina oneGrim, people barely even make goonslop for WoW anymore.
>>580876974the beta is going to have more players than ffx14
SoD+
>>580877064post more pale whitemane milkers
>>580877163if I have fun for 2/3 months its already worth it
gonna laugh if i get in the beta without being a paypiggy
>shamans after looking at their new overpowered talents trying to stay low profile while everyone calls paladin OP
bro what do you mean classic+ has changes to classic????????i wanted classic with no changes#nochanges#notmyclassic#nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges
>>580877042>pserver>remove mtxoh im laffin
>>580876687i cant imagine wanting to pick an elf shaman over an orc or tauren but ok>>580876843beta is literally a waste of time and your spoiling your own experience
>>580877214>No TLT newsThey showed trailer with giga robot on northrend tho.
>>580877138actual fax, gonna need a duo warrior pally goon squad to fight off the mages
>>580877284Shaman talents suck asst. shaman main
>>580877216be the change you want to see in the world
>>580877320>beta is literally a waste of time and your spoiling your own experiencenah im gonna have fun
>>580877082
>>580877138trvkemages won yet again
>>580877214woops forgot the new race class combos
Holy shit what a disaster. I was watching blizzcon super hyped expecting WoW 2 and got retail slop in vanilla times
Skyborne Elves look actually awesome and interesting and I'm so happy that they can be druids. I've always wanted the belt/velf models to be druids. WoW: Forever will be my main MMO for the foreseeable future because of this. We exist, it's not all doom and gloom
>>580877216need you and everyone like you dead
>>580877283how did you do it
What even is this talent ability? It makes no sense why would I switch off my main target outside of killing an add that needs to be killed and why would I use this over bane of agony?
https://youtu.be/WoIL-iwnapIOH NO NO NO NO
>>580877386I have no talent for 3D animation and by the time I got good, AI slop will already be damn close anyway.
>retail melee animations OH NO NO NO
>>580877423controller support kinda counts maybe
>>580877190>classic andy players complained shitty level 50 - 60 gear was relevant far longer than it should be>blizzard changes this so that scaling is high enough that you dont use shitty old gear>anons come swinging in like this
>>580876975as long as streamers are getting paid, it'll last as long as the money flows
just dont add the retoilet furfag races and the game is perfect
>>580877284Lava Burst? self Bloodlust? Riptide? uh... uh... THAT GUYS GOT HOLY STRIKE! GET HIM!
>>580877082>you boot lickerTurtle WoW made millions of dollars off something they didn't even make. You are the bootlicker.
>>580877446>outside of killing an add that needs to be killedthis is the exact reason, wtf are you even asking?
>>580877284It's not fair shaman sisters...
>>580877446It's cleave damage, dipshit. It existed in Cata and was excellent.
>>580877438https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/opt-in-for-the-world-of-warcraft-forever-beta-382860
>>580877424when I saw retail attacking animations I knew it was over, normies can have it if they want HARD PASS
>>580877446Good warlocks already multi dotted up packs in dungeons (intelligently to not fuck the tank over)
>>580877472literal WHO fat retard
>>580877141and still managed to 1v1 an undead paladin kek
>>580877446It's for when you have a cleave target that can stay alive so you can pad.
Wow forever more like wow never
I still dont understand this megaserver thing.So if I start and pick the PvE panel, I can never swap to be open world PvP?
>>580877427Skyborne cosmetics got datamined on retail and a lot of people assumed they where getting added to retail just to sell race changes for an elf shaman/druid.
>>580877438>>580877283>>580877596>yeah bro we'll give you free access to our paid beta just wait :^)
>>580877343We've known about northrend for ages now, doing an EPIC 10 second teaser with an obscured figure doesn't really count as news imo.
I WANT SEXSEX WITH HORDE AND ALLIANCE FEMALES
>look at streamers stream>making fun of old reddit posts (based tbf)>people dont think they wont have this same clique mentality on forevers megaserver
>>580877528Lava Burst isn't auto-crit and we lost EM unless it's baseline, so it's not WotLK tier for PvP at the very least. Still gonna absolutely nuke faggots, though.
>tbc comes out>blood elfs and dranaei added>the autistic sperg nerds with no life sperg out>WTF BLUE SPACE GOATS AND GIRLY ELVES WTF BLIZZORD AAAAAH IM GONNA SHIT AND PISS MYSELF>present day, all you asocial freaks goon over dranaei and blood elfs>classic forever brings skyborne elfs>WTF BLUE ELVES WTF BLIZZORD AAAAAH IM GONNA SHIT AND PISS MYSELFtime is a flat circle. you faggot retard losers will be gooning over skyborne elves soon.
>>580877695There's no servers, or one megaserversEveryone play on it, but pick different "rulesets" on char creation
>>580877554>>580877591>>580877610>>580877667I understand now thank you.
>>580877695it's not really clear yet
>>580877190Yup, game is fucking killed. You will afk your way to 60 with 10x xp rates and OP gear and then go collect 1000 pieces of unique biome prejudiced and racist armor so you can raidlog after a few weeks.
the collective private server tranny melty for blizzard not listening to their autistic asses is enormous.many keks in to be had in wow threads again for the forseeable future
post video of these retail animations or else
>>580877446they couldn't port Havoc cause it's too retail, so you get the shittier version
sweaty night elf girls owe me sex
>>580877610>Good warlocks already multi dotted up packs in dungeons (intelligently to not fuck the tank over)Come on, just 1 Seed of Corruption, please?I swear it won't pull this time.
>>580877774can you change the ruleset at any time or is your character forever locked?
>>580877392ok dude, im just trying to save you money but its your shekels so you do you.atleast you didnt fall for the goynip dwarf statue.
>>580877695its warmode, not that difficult
>>580877771only the ones old enough to remember that yeah blood elves and draenei had the same reactions>Wtffff blood elves r too pretti 4 hord game deadtheres 12 generations of wow players who all want a different thing
>>580877698Anyone who actually knew what the fuck they were looking at knew it was shit Camelot, though. Hence why immediately after all the fake leaks began mentioning sex elves.
>>580877758>Lava Burst isn't auto-critWhich is good because you get +20% dmg on flame shock instead AND you get to scale it on crit nowThis shit is busted
>>580877446>niller warlock mains trying to comprehend hitting more than 1 target at once
>>580877313Only Shenna and Ascension sold shit. There have been dozens of private servers that sell nothing.
>modern wow games are literally made by trannies
>seal twisting is inthey just couldn't fucking come up with something better?unbelievable how the loudest minority ever always wins
>>580877931I couldn't agree more. In retail they eventually made it auto-crit but with damage scaling on crit%, but that feels weird for Classic so I'm all for it. I just wish we had Lava Surge to make the rotation a little more interactive. He'll, I'd even settle for Fulmination. Sucks to think that both of those things will probably be set bonuses, but maybe Blizzard will make them into totems instead?
Why didn't they make goblins playable
>>580878079Same as pservers then I guess...
so what class is the new 1 button class?shant be pressing more buttons
>>580876640>Revealing 3 expansions at onceDid metzen mess up?
why is there like no good WoW smut?
no rp-pvp grobb mob is dead
PVMPING ALREADY
>>580878079Please, wow trans gods, make the skelves canonically all trannies where all the males call themselves women and all the females call themselves men, and are VERY insistent upon it.
>>580878152mutilate rogue
Do you think the Blizz devs are genuinely clueless or do you think they do it on purpose (forcing retail frames, ui, models etc. in classic when they know it will upset everyone)
>>580878118Don't worry bro, you can wear the dress and holy shock if you don't like Esfand's playstyle!
I just want to go into Alterac Valley with my Arcanite Reaper and mash
>>580878152Paladins still
>>580878203>the least rp playerbase of all time
>>580878118blame esfand
why wont they give us more details? can we swap rulesets if we want or are you locked in to pve/pvp on that character once you choose it? does this mean i can make horde and alliance on the same account? NEED MORE DEETS
>>580878182Futa goblins got an animated porn that was good
>>580878223>mutilate>snd>envenom>eviscerate>possibly even fucking expose armor
Not a fan of how complex some of the Classes are looking. I liked the casual nature of Vanilla. Hopefully we get multiple talent choices to opt for simpler gameplay.
No playable High ElvesNo playable Blood ElvesNo playable OgresNo playable NagasNo playable DryadsNo playable GnollsNo playable FurbolgsNo playable Ethereals No playable Arakkoas No playable Broken DraenaisNo playable Eredars>NO BUY!
>streamer just accidentally confirmed there is no non-HD model for skyborneit's so fucking over, imagine how jarring it's going to be. skyborne will be the most popular race and they will be everywhere, clashing with your toggled-off SD graphics
Any guilds need a cute healer twink?
Wait so I can choose Hardcore and still play with pvetards? What the fuck is this dogshit? Get me outta here
>>580878212imagine how blue skin contrasts cum
>>580878118blizzard's only talent is they are extremely good at stealing shit from others. they stole the heirloom passives from ascension and the tents from twow, so obviously they also will steal some idiotic pserver tech and make it the crux of the class
IT'S HAPPENINGIT'S HAPPENINGIT'S HAPPENINGIT'S HAPPENING>SKYBORNE CAMELTOE CONFIRMED ZOOM IN GOONERS
>>580878232YOU CAN JUST TOGGLE ALL THAT OFF, CHVD
>>580878232>modern blizz doing everything in their power to murder and rape old wowyes
i wish i could fast forward to beta, time sure drags when youre a jobless friendless shut in neet
>>580878232why would they show the crusty ass vanilla UI if they want people interested in their forever game
>>580878152Warlocks appear to have a pure SBolt spam build.
>>580878232You vill do nothing chud and this will help them attract more minors to the game for their minor attracted personsYou can't even seethe at the shameless paywall race
RP SERVERPSERVER
>>580877796yeah because having half your classes wanding or auto attacking for 90% of your leveling experience is so difficult anon
>>580878232who cares? people will make their UI look like fucking diddy kong racing UI with addons if they really want to
>>580878212classhit got new and better customization options AND better undies before my retail elvesMOTHERFUCKERS GIMMEGIMMEGIMME
>You think you do but you don’t No more realms. Say goodbye to any sense of community
>>580878338>>580878212Post her blue fucking snatch and asshole.
>>580878161yes, why would you set up the whole saga as "you fucking lose you loser" right awayinstead they have Xal'avague just running around doing shit for some reason that we'll never know
>>580878338>no breast slider why bother lmao shit game
>>580878306complex?
>>580878182There's billions of it, it's just from another decadeWowever might reignite the flame
>>580878232they are probably doing it to make development cheaper. so they can reuse stuff from retail
>>580878315they added the SD graphics to prevent autistic screeching, but they're gonna do everything they can to make you want to use HD graphics instead
>>580878317>not being a twink tank with a burly healer that protects him
There is no toggle for the UI, its a placement preset
Any PvE ruleset chads?>quest and farm relaxed and unbothered>want pvp? queu for bgs and pvp till you drop>all the minmaxer sperg autismo2000 fags will pick pvp, leaving pve ruleset auction house prices nice and affordable
>>580878427aint nobody care about realms and community in current year
>>580878337why didn't they just rehash some GOOD SHIT FROM THE 20 YEARS OF RETAIL instead of this autistic metronome-watching bullshit?
Is WoW back, boys and gays?
Why are people complaining about the elves?
>>580877446where are you finding these?
>>580878427That graphic is missing a LOT of red dots on the NA servers
>>580878232>majority of subscribers ask for features>classic+ adds those features>What the fuck doods this isn't like how I wanted it or my private server did it
>>580878306>OH NOOOO I HAVE TO PRESS 2 BUTTONS INSTEAD OF 1
>>580878427>didn't watch the presentation to hear how this is actually being handledStay mad, faggot. This decision is immaculate.
>>580878338What are xer pronouns?See? Its neovagina passes!
>>580878315>JUST TOGGLE IT O->ACK!
How long until streamers and esports fags start asking for mythico plus for Forever?
>>580878223Huh? Did you even look at the spec?
>can't avoid streamers
>>580877774PvP, PvE and RP are their own megaservers. Jesus you browns literally can't understand English.
so the whole world will be on 1 megaserver? did i get that right?
>>580878518because retards like to complain. you could offer them 1 billion dollars no questions asked and they would complain about something
Is there even going to be a global chat now? Tf
>asmon is rebuilding olympusuh oh
>>580878586Don't say those things, Kanna..
>>580878514It had quite literally never been so back, nor will it ever be so back again.
what's wrong with the retards spamming private server? I thought we were over this with sod this amount of shilling can't be healthy
>>580878518That's a man.>>580878182Dead game. I miss when we used to get huge Jaina tits every other day.
>>580878658And the RP-PVP servers?Where are they?
I wanna use my fists to turn Soap's face into a bloody pulp
>>580878586The niller streamers are thankfully not interested in any of that slop.
>>580878660there is no way thats happening, it will still be NA EU OCE.
>>580878628You either play in pve/pvp realms with parasocial losers or in RP with shitters.
>>580878658>Call people brown>Couldnt understand a ELI5 conferenceRetard
>>580878427>>580878692yeah i don't know how that would work. trade chat would go a million miles an hour.
>>580878212
You guys are taking time off for forever, right?
>>580878723All 5 players have died to old age.
how long until they make you use the retail cursor
>>580878745na and oce are already connected and that won't change either
Should I play resto druid or holy pally???
>>580878493100% me
>>580878554nta but to be fair, they didn't really explain *how* they're going to preserve the sense of community, just said that it's important to them. So I'm skepticalIt doesn't really matter though because even small servers will be filled with adhd kids who quit group if you take more than 10sec to summon them
>>580878518because blueberries fucking sucking because blueberries are tranny coded fanfictionblueberries are left over assets from retail and no one wants to be reminded of that trash
>>580878586when the game starts to die but they want mazers to sign their life away in another version of the gameso probably a couple years
>>580878660No, it's still regional. Yuropoors and chinks will remain segregated.
>>580878232they are just clueless. you can tell they have no vision. a lot of devs are. one of BF6's lead devs had to literally ask people why they want dedicated servers, because they were so utterly confused by anyone would dislike quickplay servers.they are all living in a fantasy world, they have fancy design meetings where they do "serious professional gamedev stuff" but nobody actually plays classic wow, so the best they can do is sort of slap what they do know (retail design) around and maybe they have some guy who's sometimes around to tell them what classic was really like, but most of the time it's just retards doing their own thing without anyone to lead them who has an actual working vision.
>>580878781I expect it work similar to poe global chat that it has channels, if channel 1 is full you get autolocated to channel 2 etc
>>580878658tbf it was some ESL mexican fajita retard lady explaining it. I had to really try and understand what that taco was saying
>>580877064I need to see her getting mating pressed by an orc.
>>580878806no, just for a couple of weeks.
>>580878317yes, im a femboy faggotyes, i exclusively play tank
Odds there will be a /vg/ guild I can join?
The Classic UI is borderline identical to the modern UI I dont know what the fuck you autists are crying about
>>580878785BASEDmore
>>580878658So if I pick the PvE panel at the beginning of the game I can never toggle to world PvP mode?
Do the other classes get fun new stuff
Bros I've been posting in the gay furfag wowg for the past threads by accident and nobody told me.
watcha gonna roll?
>>580878869>adhd kids who quit group if you take more than 10sec to summon themI just kick every brazilian who immediately asks for a summon upon joining anyway
>>580878965>yes, im a femboy faggot>yes, i exclusively play tank>not healer or caster[ x ] DoubtYou're not a real femboy
i'm gonna cum
All of you are such dishonest lying niggers.You gonna sit there with a straight face and tell me you wouldn't mating press those blue elves into the fucking dirt? You know you would, don't even try pull that shit with me where you pretend to hate them.You wanna fuck the elves. Say it.Admit it.
so i cant opt into pvp ever if i pick pve?
>>580879009nah, it looks like shit.
>>580878658>PvP, PvE and RP are their own megaserversno, you fucking idiot, they aren'tpvp, pve and rp will exist side to side on the same megaserver and hc will be on the same server technically, but they are gonna have their own layer
>>580878806no. im not going to nolife the game and get bored after a month
So, its realmless, but you'll automatically be in the same layer as your guildmates, so if we make a /vg/ mega guild, we can have a 4chan layer
>>580879009I'll be reskinning it regardless so this is meaningless to me. Literally toggling that bitch off like the chad I am.
>>580879070why does human get 2% crit but other races only get 1% crit
>>580879070depends what my friends are gonna playif horde undead rogueif ally night elf rogue prolly
>>580879070i want to play tauren warrior but i think my gay friends are saying alliance
>NOOO THESE STATS AND ITEMS ARE PERMANENT EVEN THOUGH THERE'LL BE A BETA SOON WHERE THEY'LL CHANGE THINGS AFTER LISTENING TO FEEDBACKAre people here really like this?
>>580879097Use your words, autist. Explain how.
>>580879095Surely you can still type /pvp and toggle it on.But no one ever does on those realms
>>580878520the talent calcuator in the OP
>>580878860Oce really is treated like dogshit by blizz. It's unreal.
>>580879070female undead warlock
>>580878785I'M TOGGLING
whats the latest cope from nillers?
>>580879095if you pick pve you can flag yourself the same way it always workedif you pick pvp, you're always flagged
>>580879178oh shit didnt notice that, ty
>>58087915999% of the dooming is pretending that they are never going to change or update anything they've shown.
>>580879159>EVEN THOUGH THERE'LL BE A BETA SOON WHERE THEY'LL CHANGE THINGS AFTER LISTENING TO FEEDBACK>Are people here really like this?
>>580879217sex
>>580879070nerf gnome
>>580878806nigga i've been unemployed since last july. this is all i'll be doing lmao
>>580879140Well Orc has another dps racial already with blood fury so thats probably why they only get 1% from axe. I guess same goes for Dwarf with their beast racial?
>>580879039only people with prolapsed anuses play on pve layers
>>580879165no.
>>580879070undead or nelf rogue probably
>>580879070Skyborne Druid or Skyborne Druid
>>580879195If you degenerates spent less time fighting and huffing petrol you might be shown some respect.
>>580878315imagine how fucking lazy the devs are when it comes to this shit when all they did was edit the skin texture and added a feather in their hair and they couldnt go modify the classic blood elf models tooits actually shocking how despite having infinite fiverr jeet devs they still cut corners like this
>>580879259>p--ppeople are gonna raidlog TBC and Onyxia in solved content a 5th time in large numbers! n-n-no ogres n-n-no play!
What's the lore to the blue elves?
>>580879070gnome priestess with pigtails
Should they ever open the dark portal?
>>580879281Yeah I think classicfags are way too used to the meta staying the same from day 1. Balance updates are foreign to them.
What does that no realms thing means? 5 million layers?
we need dracthyr in forever
>>580879358>Meanwhile in americaEnjoy the mass shootings you burrgermutt
>>580879436>caring about loreidk they have nice tight asses and im gonna fuck themthats all i care about
>>580879070smurf mage firsthuman rogue second
>>580879140because it's their only DPS racial, where other races get two.
>>580879436elves that got impregnated by draenei bvlls
>>580878315SD is a concession in the first place they don't give a shit about. Xaryu said when the streamers were flown out to preview Forever in May that SD toggle wasn't even going to be an option and they only changed their minds because everyone told them that people were going to angry.It's going to be like how when WoD came out you had the option to use the old character models still, then it got quietly removed a single expansion later.
>>580879436the spacegoats didn't crash on their sky island in this timeline
>>580879101>think about each ruleset like a mega realm>everything from AH and mail to dungeons and outworld are separate>nooo it's just layers!!!1Talking to retards isn't even funny anymore.
>>580879485Yes and we will ALL be on the Asmonlayer.
>>580879070Interesting the Tauren racial is to grow herbs. Some sort of farm or garrison?
>>580879359>>580879436blows me away that people actually believe blue elves were anything but a monetization requirement from the corpos.think about it for two seconds.>how could these devs be so DELUSIONAL??? why would they WANT to add these elves we've never heard of? why did they CHOOSE to do this?
>>580879013
>>580879485It means you will never again be cucked by rolling on a realm that ends up dying or getting faction imbalanced months later.
>entire server will be the Asmonserver
>>580879495we don't call it petrol, moronand you retards had a mass shooting in recent memory
Has anyone played the new WC3 content? Is it good?
>>580879468i mean, vanilla received constant balance updates over the course of its patch cycles. people are just wary of modern blizzard doing it. can you blame them?
If you think over 90% of the playerbase isn't going to paypig the Elf race you're fucking delusional shitposter.
>>580879448faction traitor onahole
>>580879630>>580878785That's a man
>Literally have to pay $30 for the privilege of ruining Horde race aesthetics There can be no heroism without sacrifice...
>>580879501Okay but do they just not have a capital city?
why not just copy the high elf/goblin races from turtle
>>580879070dwarf resto shaman, dwarf survival hunter, gnome frost mage
I'm a retail goober. Does this game sort of match up to what you lads wanted from Classic+? Or no?
>>580879646>a realm that ends up dying or getting faction imbalanced months later.yeah but...but...that's community!
>>580879656no where to roach...
>>580879448Built with sex in mind.
>>580876380AAAA IM GONNA... IM GONNA TOOOOOGGLE!!!! IM TOOOOOOOGLIIING!!!!!
>>580879678I said CLASSIC not vanilla. Classic is always stuck on the final patch of an xpac.
>>580879695its harder to make people pay 40 bucks for a race theyve had for 20+ years
>>580879680Cute fufu poster
>be me, Bongistani>banned from global communications in Worlo because I didn't hand over my internet license>can't talk or be spoken to>enjoy Forever at my own pace doing my own thing>other people sperg out about Asmonglayers or whatever>doesn't affect meNoice
>>580879070tauren druid with a focus on hybrid / dps caster focussince they can spam wrath now
>>580879664yes and it's because blizzard didn't design it, they contracted it out to a team of longtime reputable WC3 mapmakers like the Lorecraft team that was doing the WC2 remake in Reforged
>>580879070>Shadow Meld>Elune's Light>AP trinket>Sniper Shot
>>580879680If I played, I would. I'd still be pissed about this shekel mongering crap, but I'd do it.
for me, its soap
>>580878203Hopefully all the big streamers go RP so that they can be safely contained.
>>580879070if I go ally>dorf shammy>gnome rogue>human pallyif horde>undead pally
>>580879695because the trannies who currently work at blizzard are constantly seething that people like stuff from 20 years ago more than their stuff
>>580878785most more heeled sluts
>>580879749No, this is literally made for retail players to spend even more time on wow
>>580879661A mass shooting? Lets check Americas score
>auto learned spells>extra bag slots>mobs die in 2 hits>no weapon training>no weapon skill >retail itemization>reskinned retail dungeons>trannymogs>account wide heirloom talents>retail visuals and animations>wow token>Dungeon finder>Neutral blue elf race>No realms,just one mega serverIt’s so much worse than I could have imagined
>>580879576>>580879656>>580878628>>580878758>>580879780all the streamers are doing pvp for softcore just like they did for classic. don't want to deal with them? join the pvechads.
>>580879448based
HEY BLIZZARD LEAVE THE HORDE ALONE
>australians have to mix with faggot americans>get mass reported and banned for saying cunt in casual conversation because its just how aussies talkcool
>>580879924and it will outlast and out populate classic era somehowi think your days are over boomer unc
i got so excited for a second thinking they gave us felguards from tbc, man...
so what is going on?names are unique based on combination of both names? so I can name all my characters John if I change their last name?servers are really just like war mode that you toggle from the character select screen? with hardcore being quarantined, but normal/pvp/rp all share everything else, like characters and ah?
>>5808799260 chance Asmon (the biggest WoW streamer) plays PvP
>>580879070orc warrior or dwarf shaman. it really depends on how much they've changed the leveling zones. if the early zones aren't that much different probably i'll stick to horde.
>>580879913Really? I don't see the appeal. It definitely doesn't feel like they're trying to reel me in with what I've seen. The blue elves are also yucky.
>everyone wants to go pvp again>despite realizing it sucks everytime after 2-3 weeksoh well
>>580879695>>580879814>its harder to make people pay 40 bucks for a race theyve had for 20+ yearsBingo.>>580879876>because the trannies who currently work at blizzard are constantly seething that people like stuff from 20 years ago more than their stuffAccurate but the motivation is the monetization first.Notice how many retards are seething about the lore of the "new" race and doing everything BUT discussing the paywall?
>>580879695Forever team was build over nu-WoW devs and they really, really want to prove they can make a better vanilla than both the old Blizzard guys and those scammers from eastern Europe that made turtle
No one cares about making a dwarf slayer, now that it has access to shaman dual wield enhancement??? Haven't seen anyone mention it for even RP yet
>>580879070Human Priest
>>580880019I got excited because I thought it was demonic pact from wrath...
is holy strike universal for all pally specs or just ret?
>>580879070undead warrior. mained one since tbc aint stopping now
>>580879924Everything that comes out of your dirty pserver toilet mouth is a lie.
>>580879849>break stealth for a 4s long castI mean if you really want to.
>>580879924>auto learned spellscrix stream had regular trainers with 3g to drain bane of doom
>>580879070human warlock
>>580880049The vanilla pvp system is 100000000000% getting a full rework. There won't be a reason to camp everyone in open world for rating anymore.
>>580880092it is a base line ability for all paladins
>>580880005Whats the ping to the us servers these days on the aus east coast?Perth chads are defs getting fucked
>>580879923you are fuming because a non american insulted you, it was pointed out to you, and you've decided to double downyou lot are unironically supposed to be smarter than us and you aren't living up to itfor shame
>vg mega guildenough for a 20 man raid
>>580879924ok but more than half of that isn't even true.
>>580880092it's universal apparently
>>580880019wow, so now I can have both the 15% extra shadow dmg buff and the stam buff from my imp while spamming shadowbolts forever
>>580880031he did in classic. don't see why he wouldn't again. remember: dying to gankers in wpvp is views and content for them.
>>580879070Before anything was revealed, I was thinking undead female rogue because they have cool animations and I pretty much never play Horde. So it'd be neat in a few daysNow that I look at the racials, undead seems kind of boring though. Lifesteal might be handy for levelling but won't be noticeable beyond that I imagine, and +10% crits as a nelf or +10% damage openers / finishers as a Gnome both sound stronger/funner.
>>580879913i wouldn't be so sure, multiple tbc and mop discords are full dooming as people announcing that they are bouncing off for forever
>>580879576>>580879926So if I want to play pvp there's no way to dodge the streamers anymore? This is a disaster
>>580880187cute coinslot slit.
>>580880028yes. you have two names, main and secondary. seems like you can hide the second name too. so you could have 10 johns or whatever. you might have to look at the second name in the character select, but that's about it.
>>580879924where is the proof of wow token
i hope they add jewelcrafting and inscription at some point.
>>580880083>it was demonic pact from wrathOHHHHHHHHHI'M GONNA SNAAAAAAAAAPSHHOOOOOOOTTTTT
>>580880031Soda is the biggest WoW streamer. Asmonghoul is a chud streamer LARPing as WoW player and getting carried by his sycophants.
>>580880174Can't handle the bantz?
>>580879070Female Tauren hunter with black/white fur pattern
>>580880237>I want to play pvpyou know there's BGs right? including a new one? and there's nothing stopping you from flagging and baiting others
>combat rogue almost unchangedguess I'm going sub later
>>580880178nope
>>580879070Can I pick Human and go do quests in other cities? I played human before and I did everything there but everything else looks like ass and if by some chance I find a foid to ERP with I'd rather look like myself IRL, a white man. And additional question, what would you recommend to pick? I also want to try war. My priority would be like War > Pala > any heal > rogue > hunter > whatever else
>>580880351lol
holy LARP lmao>*makes you so depressed you kill yourself*warlocks achieving new levels of edge
>>580879924the doomers cant even make up good liesit's so over
why are private server posters come here to make shit up like they didnt have fuck tons of changes and paid services?
so are they gonna make the menethil boats a safe harbor and add an alliance stv FP to balance the horde world map advantage
>>580880287asmongold despite having blizzcon happening was still doing his rightoid chud political grift all day. the dudes basically a co-intelpro trump admin asset now
>>580880465This is what was casted on retail 24h ago
>>580880465drain hope implies that the warlock receives the hopesudden desire for whirlwind axes and other hunter loot
>>580880253you'll be waiting a while for that one anon
>the p2w race gets a 30 second sprint as a racialcool
>>580880465now make it refresh all dots like in legion and im playing your class
>>580879924based. keep saying it. also add>nonstop instant gratification>trivialized overworldthose are way bigger gripes and will flip more people.
where the is sky elf starting zone located anyway?
>blue and green hairyou're playing retail
>>580880540sad to see this shit, but I guess he needed to go mask off one day
It's literally retail slop.
why do pserver people even fucking careI just looked at their thread and they have a mega list of options to play
>>580880368>flagging and baitingwdym? you can't flag yourself in pve server I assumeIt's sad that I can't play pvp server without having to deal with streamers
>>580880619north of western plaguelands
Assmongoloid thankfully quit wow for good
>>580880619Gonna go out on a limb here and assume it's in the sky. Kind of a wild guess, I know.
>>580880501This is the last hurrah of privatetroons before they become an hero.
you can make the elves pale and blonde with blue eyes that's all that mattered to me
>>580880604>Taurens get 30% movespeed without time limit at level 1
>>580880619its some separate island off the west coast of eastern kingdoms because this was clearly some retail zone on the shelf they repackaged
>>580880658their mega list of options is nothing but dead servers with the same 500 people lol
>>580880689he said yesterday he was gonna be playing forever on release
>>580880187great work anon. the cameltoe looks just like the one IN GAMEIN GAME CAMELTOE ZOOM IN
>>580880636>I guess he needed to go mask off one dayhe didn't though. guy was already a multimillionaire from his wow streams. he just saw how easy it was to grift incels and decided to pile it on. easy as shit to scroll twitter all day and seethe about trannies
>>580880689hes playing WoW Forever for content lol
>>580879436Highborne that went up
>>580880574nah most retoilets are still deluded into thinking there'a just gonna be 2 fully developed games and nothing will be any different for them lmao
>Ele sham can now also grab Stromstrike from the enh tree>It still has it's +20% nature dmg debuff>the meta for ele is gonna be staying in melee range so you can occasionally bop the boss with Stormstrike>get 100% of your intellect as attack power so it will still hit pretty hard even in full caster gear
>blue elfpink remain undefeated
So if there's only one realm with a trillion layers that means there's only 1 global ah botted to hell? It's over
>>580880636Seems more like he was corrupted by the his own audience and an endless stream of Shitter propaganda.
>>580880742>500 peoplethat would be heaven. its more like 25
Rainbow haired elfs on horde was bad enough but the announcement of no individual servers has really really ruined the hype for me.
>retail lead world artist>working on Forever toohehe
>>580880465Warlock got fucking robbed. Outside of some cool things in Demonology, Affli and Destro literally got two of the worst playstyles now.Havoc is fucking ASS and you need a mouseover macro, it's always been clunky. Drain play styles are also fucking ASS and restricts movement badly. Trust me I was pushing keys on retail a few expansions ago and that shit was so fucking whack to play as.
>Paladins will be the most played classGod I wish my favorite class was an unpopular one. At least most of them will be on Horde.
>>580880689he's coming back for forever and he intends to rebuild olympus and crash the server
>>580879070Female NE hunter I'm hoping they add glaives so I can larp as a sentinel
HumanFemalePriest
so we're all in agreement that blue elves will be spammed with /spit and blocked from groups
>>580880465People are going to hate me for this but honestly one of my favourite spells for affliction was the one they got in mop malefic graps, it fit the theme of affliction perfectly and looked really really cool.>>580880606that was cata not legion
>>580880887the world designs are actually good in retail though
>>580880689>>580880740
>>580880675>you can't flag yourself in pve server I assumeyes you can. the difference is that you're not forced to be flagged in contested zones.
>live in the sky>turn blue (???)Shouldn't they be darker due to never having cloud cover and getting a lot of sun? Tanned, brown elves?
>>580880910Become a warlock player
>>580880825best taste
>>580880904where are there so many self admitted retoilets ITT these days
Everything they're talking about, the changes they're making to gameplay, the philosophy they are coming at the game with sounds great to me and very in-line with classic. They reference classic constantly. It is no doubt this game is meant to be classic classic classic.So then why are the fucking models and ui retail shit? It really does not fit at all.
>>580880740whoa chromatic hair effect
>>580880825I want to impregnate
>>580880818>deleted Dual Wield from Enhance Tree>can no longer do nonsense with multi imbues on casters
Cant wait for this shit to explode and 4chan to do a 180 because this site is filled with easily influenced brownoids
happy for you guys, have fun on retail minus
is a single one of these faggot streamers playing a hunter why cant i find any gameplay
>>580881035Forever is a watered down retail pipe down buddy
>>580880978they have magical sunscreen to avoid skin cancer
>>580880978you can have normal / tanned skin colors as skyborne, not only blue
>pick pve>warmode toggled off by default>pick pvp >warmode toggled on by defaultits not difficult gups
>>580880425yes
why hasnt /ourblud/ appeared on stage yet?
P-Priest bros where we at?
>>580880818No shot this is better than using Lava Burst.
I still cant get over them erasing my beloved draenei in this new timeline.i bet they will still add blood elves down the road though lol
endless bitching general. pit of despair
>>580881103is this the cope you lot are telling yourselves?
>come back to d4, we turned it into d2every single one of those announcements has been nostalgiabait
who is we
>>580881103>Watered down retailso like, 5% gay instead of 200%? sign me up
>UI sucksaddons>Balance sucksit already sucked>new race suckswelcome to peoples reactions to blood elves in 20005>i dont like itdon't play?
>>580881203yes, it's wow
>>580881005It's my favorite caster but I promised myself I would not play a DPS only class ever again, looking for dungeon as a DPS is awful. I wish warlocks could tank like in SoD.
>>580878864Respond>Respond
>>580881080For me dual weild shamans always sucked.Big two hander with windfury was always the jam, and I liked that almost all the warriors wouldnt compete for most of your good 2h weapons
>>580881179meI'm going Nelf Priest, probably Discipline
>>580881175ABSOLUTE UNIT
>>580881175he did though
>>580881215poe won anyway, they're scared shitless of it to the point they EoS'd d4 just to make a new game
Is it known at this point whether beta characters stay or not?
>>580881081when the beta starts the general will be dead and will only have the poor brownoids seething to each other
>>580881175He showed up at the Forever deep paladin dive earlier
We be toggling
Asmongold is such an IRL goldfarmer that he never touched unofficial private servers. He's probably unironically hyped for perma 60 cap with custom content
>>580880818>melee ele that bonks with their staffHoly why didn't I realize this earlier, we might be back shaman bros?
>>580880978>>live in the sky>>turn blue (???)
blizzard could descend from the heavens and personally suck off every player and private server trannies would still cry its not what they wanted
>>580881279Tbf blood elves were in W3Skyborne is something that blizzard pulled out of its ass to charge people an extra $30
>>580881196Space goats were already hated in 2005 by purists for their massive retcon. They were never ever possible in any Classic+ iteration
>no YOUR game made by the exact same rainbow haired trannies is more gaylol
>>580881292post a lewd whitemane and I will reply seriously
>>580880978Uhhh the sky is blue idiot
>>580881282Try druid my friend. They have a similar caster playstyle to affliction locks (kite and dot), and you can heal or tank.Also forever the least popular class so you will feel special
that white woman that talked about servers was Mexican? wtf?
I had a goblin rogue on turtle wow. What race/class should I be on forever?
>>580881426>elves but slightly differentwow we've never seen this done before it truly RAPED and BROKE the lore of warcraft
>>580878864resto druid if you're a leather headpally if you're a clanker
>>580881215turns out that's not just nostalgia though, they're actually just trying to make the series good again
>>580881175did you miss him going on the stage and sucking off the Paladin "changes"
>>580881475ok
>>580881498Oppai gnome rogue, of course
>>580881049Yeah that hair is actually pretty fucking cool.
>>580881337No the betas are always on beta realms that explicitly do not carry over.
not a lorefag, have blue elves always been a part of lore? i know azshara is blue but is all these people seething retarded larping boomers?
>>580881337and people say forever won't bring in new cuties!
>>580879070I know they are trying to avoid p2w accusations, but skyborne racials are seriously total dogshit. elemental damage bonus is a total meme. and 1% haste is nothing.
>>580881598no they are new
>>580880689>>580880761>>580880807>>580880912>>580880947ecelebs arent as important as you think
>>580881302I'm making a fem nelf priest and a male nelf druid because I'm a lore chad
>>580881598>have blue elves always been a part of loreNo you stupid faggot
will staysafe return to own the libs of warcraft?
Here is how the horde skyborne racial works
>>580881598nah, it's a complete asspullI dont want to hear shit about "draenei dont fit classic" when these smurfs existsBRING BACK THE GOATS
>>580881151lmao you got doxxed you retarded french zoomer
Didn't they promise more races/classes/changes? Why are people acting like the sky is falling because some things need work or changes?
>>580880938mmmh i remember playing afflock in legion and i barely had to reapply dots. corruption was permanent i think and agony was reapplied automatically i think? or was it just a very long debuff?i remember spamming malefic grasp and the artifact ability most of the time
>>580881297When did I say I was playing Enhance?Dual Wield Resto where I just said fuck it to Earth Shield and Riptide and went full Chain Heal machine gun with double Earthliving HoT procs due to the double weapon imbue
BLUE ELVES
>>580881635>>580881674sooo.... what race is azshara then....
>>580881598no but I think retail was teasing them this expansion
https://www.twitch.tv/shadowbunnixhttps://www.twitch.tv/shadowbunnixhttps://www.twitch.tv/shadowbunnixwe're here bros
>>580881368>knows nothing about private servers except that turtle and ascension existed>hypes how blizzard stole features from those He usually say that Blizzard should just straightout steal these ideas from other games so he approves it, he might think these are blizzards own ideas as well
>>580881556>pov you're a orc chieftain who she wants to do diplomacy with
>>580881598No they are litterally a OC asspull race. They tried to justify them on stage yesterday over a extremelly obscure quote from a minor character back in Vanilla that mentioned something akin to "elemental-empowered mortals"
>>580881778Butt Elf
>>580880936>/spitwho's gonna tell the lil man
>>580879924>>Dungeon finderplease no
>OH MY GOD BLIZZARD ADDED A NEW RACE OF ELVES?>NOT CANON!!!an entire thread of secondaries who have never touched warcraft in here
>>580881346>>580881540must have missed that. most likely because i tuned out paladin changes
>>580881482>Also forever the least popular classNot really, specially since the new elves can be druids with cool new forms.Also I just played a Druid on a private server and I miss seeing my character model.I might go Shaman (people usually quit early because they hate totems) or Warlock.
>>580881181You can get both lava burst and stormstrike on the new tree. stromstrike is no longer the enh capstone
>>580881598They're High Elves with fake nu-lore to justify being a "new" race that costs $30
okay, so are we going to have seasons and wipes in Forever when they add new shit though?
>>580879070Skelf shaman but I really hope they open it up to Ally based on beta feedback
>>580881556basedI'd go resto druid personally if those are the only two choiceslots of people will be playing paladin and you may see less competition for spots
>>580881790>AI song about herselffucking cringeola
>>580880825she looks like me
i will /spit on every blue elf i encounter
It's realI've been waiting 20 years for this
>>580881862It's not the automatic group maker.It's just the group advertisement tool that was in classic. You still need to manually make the groups and you dont get tpd to the dungeon
we will all find cute egfs playing Forever
unanswered from last thread : undead /rude status
>>580881737You're thinking of mop where you had soul slap and soul burn which let you instantly apply all dots on the target. Malefic graps actually only existed in mop. In legion you had a talent that could make corruption permanent but you always had to apply agony yourself and had had UA spam playstyle.
>>580881778She was just a Night Elf back when Night Elves were arcane hipsters instead of tree-huggers. Her blue-ish model in retail was made like in Cata just to make her more visually unique from the average night elf
>>580881279funny you didn't mention anything about it being SoD+
shes getting the darkest biggest nigger dick you can imagine right now
>>580881929Did you even bother watching the fucking announcement? It's not seasonal, there are no wipes, 60 is the eternal cap.
>Want to roll Hunter but wont because DPS-only means I wont get into groups as easilyIs this anti-SOVL
>>580880818The meta for ele is not playing it at all.
>>580881582Ah well, at least I will feel no urge to shill out 80€ lol
>>580881991this anon is my egf
>>580880818>>580881181>>580881907You miss out on a ton of the Resto passives like your threat mitigation and mana regen.I'm not sure yall thought this through very well.
>>580881984This was in SoD.
https://youtu.be/Z213b2gsCqgOH NO NO NO NO
>>580881337bro are you stupidwhat the fuck do you think a beta is? can you name a single game ever that had beta characters go live? do you really think they would give people a weekslong headstart?
>>580881929>seasons>wipesit's forever, retardfomo is dead
>>580881725because they are charging 30$ for a race. if people accept it, that means they have a precedent to charge for future ones.
We are so back, theres 15+ wow threads up on this shithole in 2026.
>>580881778Azshara's color was meant to make her look special, she's a highborne just like any other elves then. Those new blue things are completely new have 0 lore supporting them.
pvp or pve, which will have a bigger population? im not falling for the pvp server meme ever again
>>580876808You got some of Blizzard's cum on your lips still. Clean that up.
>>580882032why are you thinking about black dick anon?
>You have invited Shandalay to the group>[P] Shandalay: hi>*shift click*>Shandalay 24 Skyborne Mage>[PL] Me: Oh I'm sorry I didnt know you were skyborne>Shandalay has been removed from the group>[W] Shandalay: wtf?
>>580882114I didn't play that gay ass shit.
>>580882032>Stupid big tattoos all over the armsShe's already spiritually a zogged negress. they can have her
>>580882032past the wall at this point
>>580882195pve servers are for homos and women
>>580882056cant decide on whether to go undead mage or shaman orc, these ele changes are leaning me more towards shaman.
>>580881903Druids will still be the least popular.The normies don't like staring at bear ass they like staring at elf ass.They were also relegated to healer/tank which the common knuckledragger hates doing.Even with nu elf I'm betting they will be bottom 2 least played.Shaman is pretty good if you like to heal though, they will be really rare on alliance
>>580882113>threat mitigationNOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM
>>580882113Except I did think it through. It's barely different than WotLK Elemental. Stormstrike is worthless for it. I was just mistaken about having to take it over LvB.
>>580882056some scuffed spellhance from wotlk
>>580882115no one cares
>Prot now has no ranged pull>Judging being your taunt really gimps you for threat since you dont want to have to save it>Holy shield sucks, nerfing it is baffling>Conc nerfs are whatever but also baffling, pulling entire dungeons wasnt prot paladins, its 4 mages.>That holy tree, what the fuck were they thinking>Rets hate twisting with a passionThey clearly have no idea how to fix paladins.Also why call it a deep dive, they didnt reveal a single thing. Shallow dive
>reach level 60>get good gear>after 3 more years of content, still level 60>gear barely improves that entire time due to the "horizontal progression" memeWhat are you supposed to do, what keeps driving people to play? (don't say fun, you know people play in the pursuit of some form of progression)Haven't seen the day 2 panels if that clarified anything. OSRS handled the issue through upgradescape (get an old boss' drop, combine it with a new one for a slightly better item) and sidegrades (shit especially useful in specific scenarios, eg against demons)
>Blizzard is charging for a new raceYou mean like what games have been doing since the 90s?Tell me you're a poorfag private server troon without telling me
>no realmso how does this work? can someone give a qrd?
So, what changed about Warlock?
>>580881778>>580882008>>580882154Yeah she's just a lighter blue nelf than the dark blue nelfs they also retconned into existence.
The intro cinematic for skyborne literally calls them high elves ahhahahahahaha
>>580882113>threat mitigation
>>580882032not only that shes gone from fat swede to skinny american over there
>>580882195it's equal for both since it's realmless, playercount is fixed to be always the same
OH MY GOD THE DEEP DIVE FOR THE GAME GOING INTO BETA IN 5 DAYS DIDN'T TELL ME EVERY SINGLE DETAIL AND CHANGE beta in 5 days fucking retards
>>580882212
>>580881865show me a single mention of skyborne elves in warcraft lore
>>580882056cool but casting totems (with an actual cast time) is GAY as FUCK
>>580882195if you get FOMO'd into rolling pvp, you've only yourself to blame
>>580882292there is no horizontal progression, it was marketing speech for heirloom buffs.
>>580882279>>580882281Mana Regen on your Caster though?Or am I so out of date on how classic worked that mana is entirely free now like retail?If I'm legit mistaken, that's fine.
>>580882407>OH MY GOD WARCRAFT LORE ONLY GOES UP UNTILL WC3 BRO>WHAT DO YOU MEAN CLASSIC+ IS ADDING NEW THINGS AND CHANGING THE LORE
>>580882393I have to know everything before I hop in so I can be hyper optimal and not "waste my time" in a beta whose progress wont follow me to the release of the game. If I waste time in my twentieth chance to experience classic again like my childhood I failed
>>580882294No see Blizzard charging for a new race in 2007 was different because... WELL IT JUST IS!
>>580882341i call them gay elves
>we went from J'lor to blue elves
>>580882493Mana regen is gonna be very important for Elemental.
>>580882603upvoting
>>580882032
>>580882212you could be hitlers right hand
>>580882294i dont understand why people are complaining, they look like shit and blizzard couldnt pay me to play them lol.
My only gripe about Skyborne is that their model and animations are copy paste from existing blood elves while charging $30. Make it fucking unique at least.
>>580882603All elves are gay elves
>>580882195I'm going pve this timeI have a job and I dont want to be ganked for an hour straight But pvp does have it's fun moments dont get me wrong
>>580882292GW2 and ESO all lasted many years with horizontal progression until they became shitty for mostly non-progression related reasons
>>580882215youre not gonna be able to tank with just that lmao
really the gayest thing about these elves is that they are for both factions
>>580879070God damnit I am sick of humans being pvp bis for alliance. I fucking hate weapon specific racials too, they fixed the arms tree pigeonholing you into one weapon type but left the shit ass racials. I don't want to be browbeaten into using humans for perception and stun breaking and then get browbeaten further into using gay ass swords because of the 2% crit.
>raids timegated for 1 month>hyjal and ony for 7 monthsenjoy the slop
>Classic+ Is making changesno fucking shit retards?
I love how most of the changes are just mild, what you would expect from classic+, but then they move over to the high elf shit and it's straight up retoilet reject shit.could they not stop themselves?
>>580882195pvp actually sucks. i wish it didn't suck but it does. it's never actually fun.
>>580882683This should be a #1 gripe but the cattle are either slurping or focusing on the wrong problem
why didn't blizzard just start doing this?
>>580882508still waiting retard
>>580882683It's the paypig donation money for the fact that Forever is an expansion-level overhaul of the game that has no separate price tag attached to it like every other expansion has had
>>580879070>Orc Hardiness nerfed while Humans get EMFH30% bg win rate for horde right out the gate huh.
>>580882032>see white girl>think of her getting fucked by a black dudebro?
>>580882294FFXIV charges for every new race locked to expansions the same as us.This thread is literally just doomtroons kvetching
>>580882603I call them sex elves.
>>580882893>anon can't think without aithe absolute state of jeets and zoomers
>>580882683the race is a retard test, anyone i see playing them is either terrible with money, falls for the goynip or is a pepetual elf fag
>>580882862it only seems that way because you lack the brain capacity to do it
>>580882932It's not EMFH since it's only for stuns.
It's time to accept it. The real classic+ is retail.It's classic + changes.
>>580882204seething beyond belief
How come Skyborne, literally ass pulled blue blood elves are more acceptable then Zovaal the Jailer who was behind everything all the way from Wacraft 3
>>580882893Goy, please stop being stupid. It would cause a lot of drama to charge 30 shekels for existing races, but by making it a "new" race, the cattle will complain about that and not the pricetag.
>>580882409>casting totems (with an actual cast time) is GAY as FUCKThat's only for the 4 totem preset.
>>580882972t. mentally ill imbecile, probably a private server troon as well
>>580882932Bro your stampede(won't work in pvp) and free peaceblooms?
>>580882852>5 raids open on release>cleared in 2 weeks>on farm 3 weeks after that>tHeRe Is NoThInG tO dO
why didn't you people just play retail then?
Quote me on this by the time it launched and servers are overloaded and the new race makes up 70% of the playerbase 4chan will act like they're still correct about what the target audience of Blizzard is.
If you faggot shills actually bothered to watch the streams you’d realize how utter garbage this will be. A streamer already confirmed one dungeon was a straight up BFA reskin.
>>580883030what? are you retarded? how are those even remotely close. adding sky elves do not invalidate the prior history of anything. jailer retconned so much bullshit
>>580882807>God damnit I am sick of humans being pvp bis for alliance.good news because gnomes are the new alliance bis
>>580883051yeah and thats exactly what i want to drop. i aint dropping single totems like a peasant
>stop playing the hot races!>play ugly shit like orcs/undead/tauren instead!no i dont think so
>>580883030the one saving grace of forever being a seperate timeline is that arthas can return to being a badass instead of a puppet of the JAILOR
>>580882893>starting zone hinterlands>starting zone dustwallow marsh
>>580882951>FFXIV charges for every new race locked to expansions the same as us.>This thread is literally just doomtroons kvetchingWhere is the Expansion purchase I'm getting alongside the paywall palette swap?They're dripfeeding the Expansion purchase as multiple separate purchases which have a total cost far higher than Expansions do.
>>580883170then play alliance?
femalehumanmage
>>580882972>anon can't think without aineither can blizzard apparently, if only they started using it
>>580883119>implying anyone here played BFAso new content? cool
>>580882893>HEsThere is like a divine edict at Blizzard HQs that forever forbid them to make HEs playable. It's the only explanation of why they insist of creating elves of every existing element and/or color instead of them>Ogresthey would be played by like 300 people worldwide
>>580883170undead and tauren are hot
>>580882893
>>580883051Oh, it's not instant? That actually seems like a pretty reasonable trade-off, though. I'm cool with it.
>>580883162HELLO SHAMAN WINDFURY????Your uptime is only at 98%, stop slacking or the ret pala will get your 2H mace.
>>580883119>A streamer already confirmed one dungeon was a straight upwhich one huh? which one? you gonna say which one?
>>580883050its not that deep big dogits a troonbait race
>eheh im going pve chuds, have FUN pvpinguhhhhh thanks I will?
>>580882932>Gnome fury warriors get a stun break and TWO root breaksThey're gonna be a menace lol
at least it's not a furshit race...
>>580883212people are crazy if they don't think blizzard will charge money for new classes once the blue elves prove that the model works.
>>580883119which dungeon?
>>580882759With GW2, the horizontal progression meme is a big reason I quit, it felt like there was nothing to go for once you got a set of gear from a dungeon. Everything was the same, even legendaries had the same stats as dungeon gear (situationally worse even)OSRS on the other hand did it well. But upgrades probably won't make much sense for WoW. I guess sidegrades could still be a thing, a lot of anti-Undead gear and then they have undead related zones/raids or something.
>>580883323what stun break?
>>580883119I noticed the sunken city thing as bfa dungeon instantly. it's the dinosaur one.
>>580876239>no draeneino buysimple as
>>580882932if ur serious about pvp u go>>580883323 femhumieit's been that way since wratheven on classic horde racials were only good for ganking and duel tournaments
i have never seen anything as soulless as this world building streamno artistic visionno natural environments, nothing makes logical or geological sense, it's just randomly pasted lego blocks everywhereall distances carefully calculated so they are never too longeverything curated to "guide and protect the player" by allowing him never more than 1 actual choice
>>580883323Gnome unironically being the best Alliance race is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen.
>>580883030Smurf Elves hate is mostly a continuation of the decade old fatigue over 30000 flavours of elves added to the gameJ'lor was litterally a tumor that ruined decades worthy of storylines that were forcefully retconned to be just part of his 300000 IQ plan and thus removed agency from dozens of beloved characters involved
But what does MadSeason think about all of this?
>>580881429Yeah but so were blue elves.
alex status?kungen status?
>>580883269Ogres would be more popular than trolls, orcs and tauren combined, if they did the race justice and made it iconic like what made people fall in love with it in the rts games
>>580883514Who gives a fuck?
new starting area is genuinely soulless an ai could have done better
>>580882212doing this but with the transmog toggle
>>580883514wow bad blizzard bad *plays it day one*
>>580883531kungen is all in on hardcore forever
There is no way they're leaving thread as a mechanic and not retailified. Do you actually expect the millions of millions of players to actually hold back their big dick dammmmaaaaaage???? Im here to play a video game
>>580883343They may sneak New Specs in before New Classes.But how long before we go full Diablo Immortal before they start sneaking in bonus or premium rolls for loot and such?Battle Pass too, of course, where the paid track improves loot too, and/or some FOMO big flex immersion-killing cosmetics.
>>580883514told you so btw *goes back to playing another game that is even more controlled by in-game currency you can officially buy with real world money*
>>580883583inb4 it's way too easy for HC to begin with
>>580883514anon if you wanted the opinion of retarded autistic niggers just read the thread
>>580882683The real issue is them trying to monetize races at all. It's a dangerous slippery slope into them wanting to charge for other bits of content like race class combos, new classes, new professions, dungeon packs and more. The cash shop is going to be egregiously monetized to the point it looks like a Korean game
>>580883548>big dumb drooling retards>more popular than orcsYou are straight up delusional you clown. Just admit you personally have a fixation on ogres for some reason, stop trying to ascribe your own opinions on everyone else.
>>580883548Nobody plays the ugly fat humans (Kul'Tirans) because they are fat and ugly. And the very few people that play them are almost all druids so they arent forced to see the ugly fat models Why do you think people will play even uglier, fatter monsters?
>want to play prot paladin on horde>only option is to be fotmI didn’t ask for this
>>580883531>alex status?how is that nigga even alive
Now that the dust has settled, what do I think about Worlo Forever?
>>580883479>being the best race means having to be identifiable on sight as a pathetic sweatyLol
>>580883689>The real issue is them trying to monetize races at all.Where were you when TBC was released?
>>580883195Dustwallow makes the most sense for ogres, if you rework the zone.Feeds easily into The Barrens, and there is very few og dustwallow quests to lose out on.Onyxia is the only real problem to deal with.
It's literally just retail grafted into classic.
>>580883478>no natural environments, nothing makes logical or geological sense, it's just randomly pasted lego blocks everywhereso... like wow?
>>580883323alex horley art is fucking peak, shame the dude is mostly confined to doing hearthstone art nowadays.
>>580883323>double root escape with racial+imp.zerker>little bit of extra rage always nice>shit like rocket helm and net-o-matic less likely to fuck you over>can pop Eureka! for BIG executes/whirlwindsIt's our time.
>>580883656The average hardcore player dies to the most avoidable, dumbest shit imaginable, nothing is too easy for them.
blizzard, if you're reading this... we want vulpera.
>>580883548Goys, that's like way too expensive to make the armors for a new skeleton. Why can't you think of our bottom line, goys?Shut up and take your Blood Elf recolor. You can make them blond with blue eyes and say they're High Elves.All for the discounted price of 30 shekels, a 300% value.
>>580883531>alex status?On the streets and strung out on heroine/fentanyl. Dude ruined his entire life.
has there been anything that would make the game more difficult than regular classic?why would I want to play on easy when normal is already too easy for me?why wouldnt they make the new game harder?
>>580883108>5its 3, hyjal ony and another 10 man
>>580883559it looks just as bad as the jank ass pserver custom content, sparse assets placed randomly with no real soul and thought like the original vanilla zones. the new wetlands style zone doesnt look too bad
>>580883756Prob guarantee fun for first 1-2 months then after new year the game will be tested.
>>580883802if any anons look like this whisper me
>>580883479>Gnome unironically being the best Alliance racealways were if you were a PvPchud
>>580883764>rework the zonecancer. no thanks
>>580883479they always were
>>580883804>average playerso what
>>580883576lmao, this describes him too a tee. Certain " content creators" just come across as old man yelling at cloud.
>>580883881>has there been anything that would make the game more difficult than regular classic?you say this like classic is hard in the first place
>>580883030Elves and Tauren have so many current variants that everyone is numb to them adding a new one. Jailer shat on the entire franchise lore. It's not even comparable.
>>580883819I hope you get castrated and dumped in a river
>>580883783For some reason my brain always thinks Eastern Kingdoms, despite the name, is the western conintent, the equivalent of America.While Kalimdor is the shitter place with backwards devolved uncivilized garbage like Africa.
>>580883710you're angry and started reddit spacing, you're a tourist and need to go back, you don't even like this franchise, you don't even play the game, go be miserable somewhere else, shill
>>580883802>double root escape with racial+imp.zerkernot as good as it sounds. blowing zerk rage on a root means you can't use it to break a fear, and roots aren't even the most threatening form of cc for a warrior unless it's against a frost mage that can spam it endlessly, in which case its usefulness is still diminished.
if your skyborne doesnt look like this youre getting called a slur
/we/ are so back.This level of melty only happens when the poorest brownest of trannies lost.They scream the loudest onlineVishnu lost
>>580884036
>Tfw you realize Blizzard is going to keep adding shit races and classes to this project and paywall them This whole thing actually is Retail in disguise and people don’t even realize it yet
>>580884125>9
Is this what you wanted with Classic Plus? Retail Lite?
Ogres rule this general
>>580883995where did I say that? I literally asked for a harder game because classic is too easy
>>580883030>why don't people think one contrived new race is as bad a the thing that not only retconned built ruined decades of previous lore?Nigga you real?
>>580884125altmer supremacy
>>580884125>youre getting called a slurenjoy me reporting your account and getting you banned :)
>>580884152If you love retail so much then go play that instead
>>580884125has anyone posted a skyborn with classic model toggled on yet?
>>580884053>you're a touristironic coming from an election touristno one wants or cares about ogres.
>Show excitement and skepticism for a version of Vanilla I wanted >Get flamed online by secondaries who haven't touched warcraft since 2011 because the scorned ex-girlfriend doesn't like when Blizzard accidentally does good things since my narratives.
>>580883910it should be legal to execute people for playing dumb or being facetious.
>>580884269They don't exist
>>580884152>Tfw you realize Blizzard is going to keep adding shit races and classes to this project and paywall them>This whole thing actually is Retail in disguise and people don’t even realize it yetkek they're busy arguing about the lore implications of the new trans elves while they fork over $60 for their free $15/mo game
>>580883783Can't wait to suddenly find these never-seen-before continents like Pandaria or Dragon isles.
>"people actually want to play as fuckugly ogres">"no I dont have anything to back that up just believe me bro ogres ogres ogres"
>>580884170>15% bonus gold from all sourcers
>>580884269they don't have a classic model, the toggle does nothing
/wpsg/'s anus is leaking
the classic plus chuds wonnedprivate serer trannies losted
>>580884170kick that niner bitch out the dungeon!
>>580884280ok, bot
>>580883269>Ogres>they would be played by like 300 people worldwideogre would be the most played horde race, people have been wanting to play ogre since tbc
>>580884325>>580884380why didn't they just reuse the old belf models for that, sounds so dumb
>>580884125ngl the thought of being an aryan super soldier...maybe I judged too early
>ding lvl 10>already have a blue weapon from "epic savior of elwynn forest" quest where you defeat hogger after a cutscene>turn in quests for 10 000xp>you now have perfect str+sta gear from all the welfare gear you're showered with>nothing can kill you>you kill everything in 5 sec>see another player with their retarded tent>no point stopping by to get buffs since you are already killing everything in 5 sec>game prompts you to turn on level scaling once you are getting green lvl quests>get mount at lvl 15>all the quest rewards scale up>you're now lvl 28 in westfall, riding a spectral raptor mount some youtube guide told everyone to get>/4 "LF2M SM SPELLCLEAVE, GOING NOW, BIG PUMPER GROUP">group of 5 sky elf bots runs past you and then phases into another layer>you now have mostly blue gear, including one epic item from the lvl 30 quest >gameplay consists of running to the quest zone, pulling the entire screen and killing it in 4 globals, then running back on your 100% mount>at lvl 55, you have just finished STV, you do one BRD xp run and you hit 60>now do it all over again, except this time you have 5% faster movement speed when dead and rested xp generation
>>580883797They got him to do the two splash art pieces for Forever but they're pretty tame. Just sanitized wanderlust stuff instead of his usual raw style.
>>580883819this
What ruleset is the thread's guild participating in? Hopefully PvP. Carebear faggots.
>one day in and retail niggers cant help but shit up the forever generalGo back to your containment gooner general.
guys i subbed to wow but were still a month away which version of wow should i play until nov 4th?
>>580884445>people have been wanting to play ogre since tbcsource?
NEW BREAD BAKED>>580884528>>580884528>>580884528>>580884528>>580884528>>580884528>>580884528MIGRATE>>580884528
>>580884452They probably don't have the new hairstyles in classic form yet. Likely something that will be in the beta. The blizzcon version is missing a bunch of stuff.
>>580884452whats the point? none of the new stuff has old models, the new starting zone has mobs from dragonblight etc. the new items all look like retail itemsonly recolored old items will have low poly and low quality textures
>>580884527I mean that anon is right, people were asking for then even in vanilla. He's also fucking retarded to think that's not a vocal minority and that very, very few people would actually play them.
>>580884445*A bunch of fat stunnborn autists have been wanting to play ogre since tbc.* They are almost never added in any private+ server worth a damn (not even in the beloved Turtle), because the vast majority of the userbase dont want them either
>>580884527https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/faction=38/ogre
>>580884126>Vishnu lostAre you sure about that?
Why do all the new dungeons feel like ai slop?There’s something oddly strange about them, like they lack a soul.
>>580884251go back to retoilet you limp dicked fag, woke is over. chuds rule.
>>580884152If they play their cards right it's going to make them more money than retail, but only if the Token is added
My 3 mains (so far) for WoW: ForeverSmurf DruidUndead Warlockgnome priest (unless they nerf that overpowered racial in which case, undead obviously)I don’t care about having Dalaran as a capital for the umpteenth time but upper lordaeron restored to a city sounds dope as flip
>>580884430i kek'd
>>580882292yeah I really can't fathom how this will work after like 1 year. The heirloom buffs as mentioned here >>580882470 will be fun for a while, but it's certainly not going to be something that keeps people around "forever". I don't think Blizz has really figured it out. If I had to guess, they will probably just introduce new achievements over time related to new content and have timeboxed progression rewards like they already showed to keep people hooked. I don't think it will work for most classic players, but it may keep retail players happy.
>>580884512ah i thought i recognised the art style, nice to see he got to do some pieces for forever even if it isnt an action piece
>>580884378Give them good racials. Problem solvedPeople want the most lore friendly addition to the horde that have been talked about for twenty years. It's not purely that they want to play a fat goofy monster, though some do. I'd play ogre warrior or warlock for sure
>Why is Blizzard adding elves to Warcraft>These arent the elves I wantedThis is the funniest most nothingburger private server cope melty I've ever seen.
>>580884475>inventing scenarios in my head to get mad atbrother take a break from the internet okay?
>>580885007Funnier that theres skin color customization so you can just make them into high elves anyway
>>580885007I think it's dumb on the basis that we're inevitably going to go to Silvermoon and they won't be able to sell Blood Elves proper. Not only is it lazy as fuck, it's counterintuitive
>>580885007the problem is that it's the most OP race in the game and it's locked behind a paywall
>>580883269Ogres have been asked for since as long as I can remember. I would 100% roll an ogre if they were introduced. They could even have options to have two-headed ogres (if you pick a mage or warlock class). It would be so cool.
>>580885372Gnomes are behind a paywall?
>>580881790bro this isn't ceegee, it's over. retail won. there are now 2 retails and ceegee is kill.