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>>580908640

What is WoW Forever?
Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.

>New Race Skyborne
Skyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages

>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman

>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000


>When is it being released?
Release date November 4th

>Will there be a beta?
Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
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Blizzard is pathetic
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if you post lewd images
you're a troon
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https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual
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>>580918891
We dont care
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We're going home.
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>More races and classes
>No wow token
>No world buff
>Engine overhaul
>60 forever
>Horizontal progression
>No flying

We

are

back.
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Might as well just start using the classic general for everything forever related since retoilet trannies are going to shit up this one
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THE MIDGET IS BACK
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I still don't understand servers.

So when I first make my character and choose the PvE banner option, am I locked out of never being able to do world PvP?
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>>580919000
Don't stop, I'm close
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>>580918648
Hpally always was the best single target healer.

Its AoE damage in which they suffer. Even the new capstone talent only gives like 300-400 HP heals to a party which is essentially nothing.

Shamans are the king of AoE heals due to Chain Heal and are now also excellent tankhealers due to Riptide, Druids are the best blanket healers with their HoT's and Priests have the strongest absorbs and are the king of versatility as they're good at all of the forms of healings mentioned above.
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ahhhhhhhhh the fucking yanks got one back
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>the pic that broke blizztroons
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>no weather
im gonna keep chimping out until i can have white out blizzards in dun morogh

im not letting this slide after 2019 fucked up the weather effects and never fixed them in 7 years(still broken btw)
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Post your face when you're too high IQ to fall for the latest blizzgrift and won't be playing retail 2.
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>>580919025
stop asking this and just roll PvP, fag
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>the horde needs to have a pretty race so people will play it
why not darkfallen? the undead dark ranger type elves like sylvanas? those have always been part of the forsaken and by extension the horde. it's basically the best compromise that exists for elf fags and classic horde fags
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why are the eu shitters so silent??????
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>>580919112
I want to be doing the ganking, not getting ganked
I need to hit 60 first safely
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>>580919000
Cute expression. I'm going to conquer this cute blue elf's body with my cock.
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WARNING: YOUR LAYER IS ABOUT TO CLOSE IN 2:59 MINUTES

PLEASE MOVE TO A SAFE LOCATION

[CHANGE LAYERS NOW]
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>>580919110
Its just turtle but worse and theyre charging for it
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>>580919118
They cant sell this its that simple
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>>580919118
how about no. elves are gay and gross and i dont want them on my team
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>>580919000
>sloppa anon singlehandedly saving this general
I will now marry a sky elf. Also nice digits.
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>>580919213
grim
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>>580919174
>I only want PvP when there's no chance of my losing
yeah I hope they cuck you out of xfering
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>>580918891
AWR
W
R
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>>580919174
you and every other retard on a pvp realm lol
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>>580919110
>>580919219
you lost private tranny. get a job and you can afford the sub
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>>580919213
this is such a ghetto approach to a problem lmfao
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>just ignore it
>nobody cares about that
>how does that affect you personally?
>you are going to play anyway!
>you weren't going to play anyway!
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>>580919293
>the majority of players are retards for wanting war in warcraft
care more
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>Auto Shot, Aim Shot, Arcane Shot, and Multi-Shot can't be used with Thrown Weapons
This game is so fucking shit.
Why won't it let me just play as a fucking Spear/Axe thrower?

Nigger.
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>>580919213
There's also disconnect protection which everyone and their mother will exploit with ethernet toggles.
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>>580919342
There's a strong atmosphere of cope here. It's harrowing.
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>>580919048
Well this was an opportunity to change that. Pallys are now going to be more than viable for tanking, Ret has been buffed, like they're looking like the god class of this new game.

So why make them the best single-target healer when they excel in all the other areas? They should be a mediocre healer at best.
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>>580919048
Shamans are only good aoe healers if melee stacking when there's 20 warriors bouncing heals off the main tanks. Priests are actually way better at aoe healing because PoH is just stupid broken. Druids might be pretty good now unless wild growth costs too much mana. They never were blanket healers in vanilla though unless they were a cringe heal parser.
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>>580911668
does anyone have a link to the art panel? i don't see it on the main stream so dunno where to find
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How will guild names work on the new megaserver?

Can there be only one <Scarlet Crusade>?

Also if I join /world or /global will there be 70 million other players chatting??
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>>580918823
the pride event in retail is hilarious btw, you have to play horde to participate, not even memeing, it's horde only
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Darkspear_Dash
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>>580919337
I have a job
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>>580919213
Dunno how I feel about layers. Couldn't bots just get a layer all to themselves and farm endlessly with no competition?
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>>580919000
Finally you're back keep going
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>>580919048
that's 300-400hp at level 40, which is more than a fully bounced PoM
it also has negative mana cost and shorter cooldown than PoM
and you can even prep for burst damage by slowly blanketing it on 5 targets and popping all of them in one go
it's just all around really good for AoE, but on the other hand I'm doubtful whether they can really compete with disc in single target
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Where tank shaman
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shockadin here, i will holy shock you to death and you cant do a thing about it
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>>580919479
Are you fucking serious?
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>>580919424
brownoids crying is so pathetic
you had your fun unc
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>>580919213
>>580919213
NO NO NO I WAITED HALF AN HOUR FOR THIS QUEST ITEM
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>>580919479
Makes sense, they are all closeted queers.
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i'm excited.
how are you feeling about this, on the hole?
i'm thinking PVE. undead pally. tank.
i'm going to try and force two or three old friends to come back for at least a month and see how it goes.
i'm not paying 60$ for the privilege to level to 30 and then do it all again in two months.
this is gonna be a good one, i can feel it.
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>thanks for proving that there's a big market for classic+, turtle team
>now we're going to sue you and make 100 million from your ideas
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>>580919537
read your talents :D
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Are we all in agreement that the only way to keep old content relevant is to add gamba items to boss loot tables that let you Titanforge* your gear?

*It could be Titanforging, reforging, or any unique effect they invent that makes gear better or different
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>>580919537
It appears that shaman will be able to tank 5 mans. Check out their new Spirit Weapons.
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>>580919627
you're still retarded
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>>580919213
>you're about to do a group quest
>you get this and no one else in the group does
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>>580919479
I mean yeah, orcs are gay as fuck, zesty ass niggas
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I'm quite excited for Forever but some of these changes are head scratchers. Why is the dev team putting such an emphasis on community but then making so we're all lumped on a megaserver with dozens of layers and phases? Is that not counterintuitive?
Then they nerf dungeon mob xp like we aren't still going to run a dungeon multiple times for the drop we're chasing? Make it make sense to me.
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>>580919000
im gonna cave her blue asshole clean in.
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>>580919118
There is no doubt in my mind that they were planning to just do High Elves like Turtlewow had, but they took it to investors/board meetings and the higher ups were like "Erm no, we can't sell palette swapped blood elves for $30 so you need to make it a brand new race"
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They went an entire Blizzcon without mentioning the fate of TBC Anniversary or MoP Classic servers. Let that sink in lol.
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>>580919519
It's an unranked talent skill anon, meaning it only gets higher numbers through Healing Power (which the other healers will also get).

It still a nice cleave heal but don't get your hopes up, they're not gonna make Paladins the best Tanks, DPS AND healers like in Wrath.
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>>580919627
you're still a genius
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>clanker has better ideas than a billion dollar company
how come?
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>>580919687
It's.
Not.
Classic.
When are you going to understand? Why is this so hard to grasp? It's retail with a veneer of classic appeal.
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>>580919627
why would you repost the same question in multiple threads? don't you have anything else to say? it's not even an interesting proposal.
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>>580918939
>no wow token
I don't believe this one
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euros??? why are you so silent????
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>>580919000
>>580919590
post her with a futa cock already
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>>580918932
The entire thing is rife with esoteric symbolism.
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ShamanBros won. BY A LOT!
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Ahhhhhhh yanks have made a combeack
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>>580919654
>>580919614
Spoonfeed me please!
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>>580919612
Haha imagine making your entire "job" stealing copyrighted games and reselling them to retards illegally then getting mad when you get spanked.
Third worlder mindset
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>>580919479
hordebros this can't be happening...
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>>580918939
Is there any source on no token?
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CAN YOU GUYS SLOW THE FUCK DOWN?
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>>580919796
Never said it was, it's just so baffling to me that they contradict their vision literally within the next two sentences on stage.
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>>580919821
things that are true don't have to be interesting
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>>580919792
>Hinterlands and Dustwallow Marsh
>starting zones
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>>580919715
Uh, dont?
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>>580919582
Nah I'm a Priest Chad but I'm just gonna roll Pally I think especially if Disc makes Holy obsolete.
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>>580918939
yet the game still looks like it was made in 2004
>No wow token
also lol
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>>580918891
buy an add, faggot
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>>580919479
retail is not canon
Long Live Forever (until they start putting in the gay shit)
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>>580919826
>>580919909
IF there was a wow token we would have seen it or datamined it already. TBC/Classic already had wow-tokens datamined VERY early.
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>>580919883
I know Aggrend was seething when the rest of the team made shamans viable.
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The reason they will never add High Elves is actually because they know that can't add Black High Elves without pissing off fans and they also can't NOT add them without getting bad press adding a Blond hair Blue eyed race
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>>580919627
>>580919792
are u niggas going to post this in every fucking thread?
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>>580919479
Horde is the designated victim complex faction so that tracks.
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>>580919792
Insider info is that there's a sensitivity department that stonewalled the shit out of the high elf stuff in the recent "unite the elves" storyline so there's basically no feasible chance of it ever becoming a playable race. It's too "racist dogwhistle" for them.
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>>580918939
>classes
was this mentioned?
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>>580919976
why did you respond to me again? stop.
fucking weird guy responding to me several times with the same answer
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>>580920027
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>>580920020
Of course they are, anon.
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>>580918214
notice how they say "no plans to add token" rather than "plan to not add token"

classic wordplay scam
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>>580919993
>Long Live Forever (until they start putting in the gay shit)
if it's horde only and therefore in accordance with the setting I don't mind
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>>580919928
Why are you so surprised? Yesterday they said they're going to "respect the look and feel of classic" and then they just shove in their blue OC elves out of nowhere.
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>AI poster single handedly made me like blue elves
It's over.
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>>580919965
sounds kino
you could make the races start at a higher level or something
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>>580919776
>It's an unranked talent skill anon
proof? the talent calculator in OP doesn't show ranks so you're full of shit unless you have stream links
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>>580920012
They are in the game though
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Alliance are the jews
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>>580919927
>faster than /gig/
damn
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>>580920012
They already have black Blood Elves and Blood Elves are High Elves Physically.
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>>580919687
>is that not counterintuitive?
what is the alternative anon? have everyone on one shard? it would be absolute mayhem and you wouldn't be able to finish a quest
getting rid of realms helps the community, not the other way around. now you can group with anyone on your server if you want to. they just need to do the sharding well and it will be a W longterm. having many realms means the less populated ones always suffer
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>>580919927
It's like WoW is coming out for the first time all over again
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>>580919761
who gives a rats ass about those versions
pandas lmao
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>>580919927
sorry nerd vg is getting BTFO
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>>580920054
Yes
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>>580920153
Holy projection.
Hordefags are the ones who try to make everything in the story about their racial identity.
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>>580920027
Why is Stormheim in there? Alliance was the aggressor in that scenario, they made it abundantly clear that Worgen Man was off the chain because he was seething that Varian wouldn't warm his bed anymore.
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>>580920087
>We've heard you - we will be implementing the WoW token to cut down on botting, after many requests to do so.
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>>580919968
>blizzard employee already shilling the new race
it's so obvious bro
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what do we think the legendary from the hyjal raid will be?
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2873565784
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2873565784
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2873565784
FULL ALEX VOD.
TLDR: HIS BACK. HIS GOING TO STREAM WOW AGAIN. HE LOVES WOW FOREVER.
APOLOGIZE.
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INVITE TO FEMBOY LAYER
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>>580919727
Guarantee you it was the other way around. The higher ups told them to sell Blood Elves and this is what they can't up with as a compromise because they knew the ensuing shitstorm from selling a race everyone already owns would be orders of magnitude worse than the reactions have been to Skyborne, which is already pretty rough.
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>>580920274
staff
world tree branch
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>>580920298
Asmon and Alex link up?
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>>580920273
I havent even bought it kek

I'm going Undead Paladin
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>>580920261
>Jewish races ran by rich jews
Yeah... you lost Rabbi the Alliance are jewish clay
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>haven't touched WoW since Legion
>apparently Horde vs. Alliance discourse is not only still alive and well but gayer than ever
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>>580920274
If I had to venture a guess, it'll be something for healers.
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I can’t fucking wait personally. I’m finally going home. Shadow priests look genuinely insane but it’s gotta be warlock for me
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wtf is seal twisting?
everyone is saying paladin sucks because of it.
what is it?
#outoftheloop
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>>580918701
High Elves will inevitably entet the game and be a playable race. With Silvermoon. The entire thing will be blue and Alliance adjacent.
They wont just leave this part of the map covered.
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Eu bros it’s over
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>WoW Forever
Yep, it's female human warlock time.
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europeans???? I thought you guys were good at PvP???? why is NA in the lead????
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So uh since pvp is going to be 1 server, does that mean if a 70/30 faction imbalance happens then it's permanently fucked?
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USA
USA
USA
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>>580920545
femhuman mage
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Undead Paladin will be the new White Human Paladin played by a brownoid.
If you're planning to play Undead Paladin, you're brown. You just are. Sorry to break it to you.
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>>580919687
>Is that not counterintuitive?
no not really. it seems like layers are pretty much fixed, so you'll see the same people over and over again. it's soft servers. but you could still invite your friends or guildmates. because what really sucks is when your friends rolled on another server and you just don't get to hang out with them.
or, your pvp server dies because everyone goes the same faction. or your server dies because people leave. i really don't see the benefit of having discrete fixed servers. it was a hardware limitation of the game being made in 2004.

>Then they nerf dungeon mob xp like we aren't still going to run a dungeon multiple times for the drop we're chasing?
the original intention for 1-59 dungeons was that you would run them once, maybe twice. they weren't meant to be things you grind over and over. it pulls you out of the world. players get resentful if they feel like they "have to" do these dungeons over and over again.
source:

https://youtu.be/Ud9h8UpcC4E?t=1120
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Why would someone run a new raid after Naxx if the gear is the same ilvl?

Horizontalfags are delusional
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>>580920274
A necklace that every class can use, it’s going to be called sap of the world tree
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>>580920545
Pale brunette with bangs and huge, bare thighs and gorgeous feet with black toenail polish?
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>>580920603
expect a lot of
>LFM full on paladin/plate/mail
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>>580920506
i think because of server lag or something you were able to have two seals active for a split second and thus be able to judge and get the effect of both
this was unreliable so they just made it a real talent
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>>580920603
You certainly seem to have brown people on the mind anon, very strange
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>they're planning on adding grim batol
FUCK YESSSS
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>>580920603
Undead is the White Man's race retard.
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So why can't I roll a Gnome Paladin
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>>580920298
>selling your pc because prices went up slightly
>now you have no pc and have to buy one for inflated prices

ya this fag retard sold it for drugs to have a gay meth orgy for a few days
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Wow, forever seems alright, but that's the thing it just seems allright, they are adding a bunch of new stuff. They're redesigning and everything, but at the end of the day, it's not very vanilla warcraft looking, I want there to be something brutal about it like how in classic, wow when it opens with this trailer of niggas fighting and shit yeah, instead, here we get a bear with a whisp running around gayly before pogging over dalaran , lowering it shield. Straight outta some goddamn disney movie. Where is the tauren hittingt the elf with the elfs tiddies flying around and shit? I don't want this to be retail light I want this to be vanilla world of warcraft, but improved. If they were going to add any races , they should have added a race that we already knew and cared about actually being playable. The idea of a cross faction race is straight mists of pandaria slop when the game started to become just a tad bit more gay. I'll have to wait until this game comes out. And I'll give it a few months to see the reception on it. If it's liked or not and then I'll give it a try. Until then, i'm playing zenless zone zero so I can get big tiddies in my face.
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>>580920682
Yeah and a lot of bitching about it in the thread for a month and a half before the game dies.
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>>580920274
Azshara's Dress which will only be equippable by Sky Elves.
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>>580919968
Why does that elfer have flat milkies
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don't forget to opt in for the beta on the highly unlikely chance you get in for free instead of being a paypig cuck
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gilneas when
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>>580920274
ashbringer 2
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>>580920393
Please make more porn of her
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>>580920756
Azshara can sit on my face any time
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>>580920737
Classic WoW was a product of its time.
WoW Forever will be a product of our time.
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>>580920839
She's waiting for a human paladin to pump 20 babies into her.
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So the only way to do AOE as a rogue is combat spec or rapture targets?
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>>580920852
never. no furries allowed.
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>pecking order while leveling
Tanks > Healers > Mages > Any DPS

>pecking order at endgame
Shamans >> Healers >>>>> Caster DPS >> Geared tanks >>>>> Melee DPS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plate DPS
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>>580920274
bow for hunters
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>>580920728
racism
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ONE MEGA SERVER.

FUCKING HYPED. Asmon said he thinks it a good decision too and so does every other streamer.
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>>580920879
this.
sadly we're living in gay tranny times
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>>580920521
of course they are gonna do this eventually. they can literally minorly asset flip every single vaguely vanilla piece of content and then sell it back to people, theyve effectively given themselves a money printer for the next 5 years
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>>580920890
rogue is not an aoe class.
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>>580920845
I'm just gonna paypiggie it for the name reservation desu
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>>580921002
of course it is. the original biggest problem were so many servers nobody could play with each other
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>thinking fruitbowl blizzard will EVER add Agartha:The Race to the game
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tryin to avoid playin a class tied to a streamer like warrior, retardin and cringey pvp druid
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>>580920609
> players get resentful if they feel like they "have to" do these dungeons over and over again.
crazy how this has ALWAYS been the case, but the WoW playerbase has consistently insisted on dungeon spam as a core part of their own experience despite the fact that everyone, including them, hates it.

I've always said Blizzard's biggest mistake was listening to their own stupid ass players who want to optimize the fun out of their own experience
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>no draenei
Wtf bros I can't play...
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>>580920662
why cant people answer this question
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>>580920452
Imagine the fattest stinkiest landwhale neet 47 years old and overdue for a heart attack.
That's who still engages in "faction" war online.
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>>580920662
Why would the gear be the same ilvl?
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>>580920852
i thought they confirmed gilneas was in
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>>580921136
It's not really Blizzard's fault, it's the internet for letting brown people in and giving them a voice.
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>>580920452
there is no discourse
horde is for faggots, simple as
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>>580921253
thats the definition of horizontal progression
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>>580920662
>>580921168
Some of us play games for fun faggot have you heard of it?
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>>580921308
is MC>BWL>Naxx not horizontal? The ilvl is not the same
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I WILL make a female Night elf Melee Lone Wolf Hunter!
I WILL be basically playing much worse warrior with mana
I WILL roleplay as a sentinel
It WILL be fun
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>>580920784
>>580921219
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>the journey matters
>log in
>its dungeon / raidslop
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What if they tied WoW Forever transmogs to your account with what you already have in retail and classic haha
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>>580921327
I only care about ilvl though
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Realistically speaking how long until someone makes a WoW: Forever build that I can run locally so I can play this game in an all-white community?
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>>580920879
ya turns out that experiencing classic over again made us realize vanilla was actually shit, tbc was actually shit and wrath was actually shit.

the only thing people want is the fleeting feeling of experiencing something new for the first time
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>>580920662
>>580921168
gressil: mace edition
queensfall
splinter of nordrassil legendary 2
infusion of souls
totally not thoridal
benediction but it has orange text
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>>580921410
retail is right there
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How can one Country produce all the greatest games AND win all the esports tournaments???
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>Belf clone can't be Paladin for whatever reason (too much effort to make a mount for them???)
>Forced to roll cringe UD Pally or cringe femhumie or ugly dwarf

Yeah it's over.
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USA USA USA USA USA

EUROPEANS SUCK AT PVP LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>580921327
99% of the fun for 99% of the player base is getting better items
1% of the fun is watch big yellow numbers

you're delusional if you think otherwise
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>>580918919
Alex runs this general
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Bros the new Warcraft Forever soundtrack is great


https://youtu.be/w2cK8mOG4Q8?si=1Whr_f2cAuEVZ4YB
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>>580921398
cant stop people from doing what they were always gonna do anyways
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EU bros c’est fini mes amis
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>>580920923
what about a shaman healer?
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i missed out on playing og wow in 2004, will playing wowf make up for that
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>>580921248
>YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN WITH YOUR FICTIONAL SPORTSBALL TEAMS BECAUSE.. WELL YOU JUST CAN'T ALRIGHT!
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>>580921359
You're arguing with a retard.
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why do euros always scream superiority then lose to NA at everything
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>>580921359
MC>BWL>Naxx is quite obviously not horizontal, yeah. There's a clear vertical progression where you're expected to clear the easier raids first.
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>forever is just going to keep adding slightly modified shit that's already been made for retail in the past 20 years but with a 30$ price tag on each thing
actually genius, charging retards again for the same thing, literal money printer
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>>580921398
I promise you, I PROMISE YOU, that there will never be a "classic" wow experience where the journey was LESS relevant than it will be in wowf.
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REMEMBER

HUNT DOWN SKYBORNE DAY 1 EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT, EVERY AFTERNOON. DON'T TRADE WITH THEM, DON'T ACCEPT THEM INTO THE GUILDS AND DON'T DO RAIDS AND DUNGEONS WITH THEM. DON'T STOP UNTIL BLIZZARD REMOVES THIS OUT OF SEASON APRIL FOOLS JOKE.
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Used to be an expansion cost $60. WoW Forever is free with a sub yet you're still complaining about some blue elves? This new generation is so entitled, probably private server imbeciles who are assblasted
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>>580921480
>Completely wrong and dogshit opinion
No.
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Retail arenas look gay as fuck do healers have infinite mana
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>>580921534
>where you're expected to clear the easire raids first
this is wrong though. vanilla had catch-up raids with ZG and AQ20.
WoWF will have catch-up raids.
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>Get in Forever
>Silithus will still be empty

It's over.
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>>580921359
You're right, that's not horizontal.
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>>580920027
>Lordaeron
Her city, her choice
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>>580920012
>they know that can't add Black High Elves without pissing off fans
No one would care outside of a tiny, insignificant handful of racist faggots on here and shitter.
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>>580921513
What do you mean larping as a faction in a 24 year old MMO where colluding has been the name of the game since 2006 is for obese autistics and neets?
Get in arguments because I picked a different color World of Warcraft character than you!!!!!11111111
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That CEO lady chick said level 60 is the indefinite max level

Uhh so Naxxramas will be the end of Forever?
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>>580920662
>>580921168
>same ilvl
item level is a vertical progression concept
with horizontal progression, this idea doesn't even apply since it's more like you would run specific content for specific items which are equally "powerful" as the gear from other raids, but they just do different things
a simplified hypothetical example would be a piece of armor that buffs fire damage that drops from AQ, and a piece of armor that buffs frost damage from Naxx. both gear have the same armor values and stat spread, but different functions depending on what kind of build you have or what kind of items your group wants, so the rewards are "equal" but different
whether or not AQ and Naxx are equal in difficulty is a completely separate question, of course, but they're just examples of high end content here
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>>580920873
1 more for now https://files.catbox.moe/oqe6eu.png
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>>580921613
Why would it be, I want to come to Silithus with you anon
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>>580921486
In my restless dreams, I see that town. Goldshire.
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>>580921665
This. WoW is for everyone now. We love blue elves.
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>>580921703
There ain’t gon be no naxx you dumb naga
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>Name Change: $14.99
>Surname Change: $14.99
>First + Surname Change: $24.99
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>>580921709
MOAR
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Give me the fucking RP-PVP server.
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>>580919687
>Then they nerf dungeon mob xp like we aren't still going to run a dungeon multiple times for the drop we're chasing?
This makes perfect sense. It completely kills boosting, keeps people in the world. Sure some people will run the same dungeon a few times to complete all available quests/get the low drop rate item/run with friends but that adds to the social aspect rather than having a group monotonously spam dungeons 20 times a day.
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>>580921573
I won't be on a PvP shart so you can't kill me
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>>580921767
Yeah that's how it's been since 2007.
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>>580921757
then what is?
i dont understand the longterm planning of Forever if level 60 will permanency be the max
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>>580921698
t. soulless bugman
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>>580921613
Anon they showed yesterday a map of azeroth and circled all the zones that will eventually be included.
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>>580920264
Because Sylvanas was actively sabotaging our allies against the Legion for her own personal machinations?
Genn was 100% right to be sus of Sylvanas
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>>580921418
The 2019 classic client still hasn't really been cracked by pserfs. It kinda works but you get disconnected if you e.g. dispel something. WoWF would probably be twice as hard to reverse engineer because it involves server-side changes on top of that. So something like 15 years.
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>>580921703
It's just a buzzword to give the illusion that they "listened" and they know what they're doing.
The reality is, there's no way they can add content to the game without incentivizing players with better gear. So any future release will have better gear, and any MAJOR future release, something akin to an expansion, will have questable gear on par with the previous raid tier to "get you into the action," probably the exact words they'll use.
They might also add some mid level zones here and there and sell them as big content releases or whatever, but the fact is, they don't know how to make a game last without vertical progression and neither do any of you, so it's going to go vertical eventually. They'll just call it something different.
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>>580921505
It's the closest you'll ever be able to get to making up for it.
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>>580921747
>We love blue elves.
you mean night elves, right? They are blue.
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>>580921709
NOOO KEEP GOING
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>>580921858
Do you have a source for that? I watched the stream yesterday but didn't see it
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>>580920675
Yep. Except the feet part the fuck is wrong with you footfags
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>Every other class gets the TBC toolset from ice lance to riptide
>Warriors get fucking victory rush, that's it
Blizz really bought into this warriors op meme, warriors were only op with good gear in endgame situations with world buffs, warriors will br the worst class by far with these changes
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Megaserver (PVP, Layer 67, English Preferred)...home
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>>580921613
Best place to farm elemental earth so it likely won't be
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>horizontal progression is when you cant have more BiS gear
lol WoW players are so brain rotted by decades of chasing higher and higher ilvl shinies it's super funny to watch
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PLEASE SPOONFEED ME GOING TO WOWHEAD IS JUST TOO HARD
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>>580921248
t. horde nigger
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CEtTIaLI_E

new parasocial and spoonfed opinions
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<Pupper Pals n Trans Gals> the OFFICIAL /wowfg/ guild is now recruiting

We are currently looking for players who are completely dogshit at the game, preferably playing a meme spec or following a retarded self-imposed challenge. We log everything and will make fun of you in the thread for being bottom DPS. All Tank applicants have to be female and roleplay that they have a 30 inch futa cock. Shitborn Elves are NOT allowed.

Whisper Jahy Jahy for your invite
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>>580922001
Hunters will suck too.
When you add all this new gear that scales power well but it doesnt affect huntards kek
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the initial reveal of this kinda pissed me off but with some distance now i feel cautiously optimistic about it. the blue elves are gay still.
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>>580922060
Uh oh fatass neet melty
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>>580922057
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>>580921573
>probably won't play PvP ruleset
>have tons of friends and family to play with who have played WoW for years and are good at the game
>will make our own guild without faggots like (You)
>will play a sex elf and /dance in front of (You) just to see (You) seethe
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>>580922076
EU? NA?
PvE? PvP? Roleplay?
Horde? Alliance?
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AnnieFuchsia just confirmed Onlyfangs in Forever.
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>>580922040
gonna spoonfeed my cock to you, lazy fag
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>>580922057
Vegeta
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>>580922001
Warriors were still the best dps by a mile even without world buffs.
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>>580922125
the dance is cringe
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Alexensual runs this general
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>>580922001
i sure hope they dont suck. i want to play a warrior
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>>580922101
Well have to see whether the MM 60 talent will scale with weapon damage or not.
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>>580922118
balding makes you look so much older, poor king
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>>580922001
warriors have always been the strongest class in the vanilla game by the fact that all they need is a healer to become fucking invincible killing machines with 0 downtime, so yeah cope
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/wowcg/ is dead forever, /wowg/ is dying, and you're laughing
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>>580921920
I used to play a MMO called Nexus: Kingdom of the Winds. This was before EQ, before Ultima Online, and everything else.

What they did with endgame was really interesting and wish other MMOs copied it. When you hit max level, you would trade in xp for raw stats. So like 2 million xp for an additional 50HP or something like that. It was great and showed off the players who were really dedicated to the game.
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2019 repeat incoming. Won't last even half as long but it's gonna be a blast running through with everybody again
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>>580922154
soda confirmed it 0.2 seconds after hc was announced
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we can never go back to classic so lets just make a starcraft mmo at this point
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>>580922061
men who watch this shit, enjoy it and comment on it need to be taken out back and shot. feeding these grifting whores ad revenue does immeasurable damage to society
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>>580922118
i knew he would come crawling back.
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>>580922223
You missed your quints...and I'm laughing
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>>580922196
arms looks pretty sweet but you need a shaman to follow you at all times
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>>580922184
Damn right it is. And that'll make (You) seethe even harder. God I fucking love sex elves. Every toon I make of a class they can play is going to be one.
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I just wanted TBC and Wrath forever man

Now I've got 1 more year before the dream is over forever.
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>>580922276
>/vg/
>quints
tranon...
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>undead paladin charger

this looks even better than the alliance one
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>580922154
I can't wait to follow a bunch of socially inept e-celebs arguing and sabotaging each other over who gets what loot
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ok how in the heck does it even make sense for Undead to be paladins?
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>>580922353
undead paladins get cucked by human racial.
every rogue or hunter or warrior or pally will be human.
>undead pally uses HoJ
>human racial out of it xD
Undead cucked once again.
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>>580922386
>Warriors can dismount on will
>only ones who can
oh nononono
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>>580922001
Warriors are still the best class by far without world buffs. they were stacked just as hard in SOM as they were elsewhere, even more in fact since PvP gear was easier to get.

as far as itemization goes nobody knows what endgame will look like. the staff of westfall which comes from a level 20 quest had +48 healing and +16/18? spell power on it. this is akin to level 50 vanilla loot.
its obvious that the most complete classes get the least changes because they simply dont need them
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>>580922353
it even looks better than the Fallen Charger.
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>>580922320
wdym

they didn't announce anni awotlk so doesn't that mean anni will be TBC era?
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What's going to be less cringe, male human or male ud for Paladin? Probably gonna focus on Holy, not sure if it matters.
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>>580922414
gods don't care if you've died
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>>580922353
>this looks even better than the alliance one
the default human charger has always been the lamest looking one of all the versions
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>>580922414
Lordaeron was a nation who followed the light more stridently than any other, and was home to more Paladins than and other. The Forsaken are the former people of Lordaeron. It's never made sense that they couldn't be Paladins.
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>>580922504
every redditor is rolling ud pally. honestly rolling pally is cringe enough
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>>580922386
this shit is going to make it hell playing on pvp servers
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1 Male Dwarf Shaman
2 Female Skyborne Druid
3 Male Tauren Warrior
4 Female Gnome Warlock
5 Male Dwarf Rogue
6 Female Skyborne Rogue
7 Female Skyborne Mage
8 Female Gnome Priest
9/0 Reroll

Also post more Skyborne slop
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>>580922247
We're getting the band back together on this one.

It's gonna be pure ludo kino.
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>>580922153
Figure it out
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i fear that forever will attract retail player
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>>580922438
you forgot mages, the old hero class
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>>580922426
>every rogue or hunter or warrior or pally will be human.
You mean Gnome since they'll have 120 energy, 10% more damage on multiple opener abilities, and of course snae/root immunity.
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>>580922426
>every rogue will be human
>he doesnt know
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>>580922504
the horde 4chan guild will be based chuds and the alliance 4chan guild will be erp troon clique
you should choose your race based on that information
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>>580922353
there better be a scarlet crusade charger that we can unlock
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>>580922573
Nigger I'm playing as many sex elves as I want. And it's gonna be a lot of em.
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>Class
Warrior
>Race
Human Female
>Transmog
Off
>Models
HD
>Animations
Classic
>Fog
It's Foggening
>Ground clutter
there's fucking weeds everywhere
>Realm
PvP

and there's nothing you can do to stop it
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>>580922639
stun trinket is also insanely good though
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>>580922642
mandate of heaven was horde on lightbringer and on 2020 classic
horde is the faction for raped males, this is even more true in forever
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>>580921958
Alright just one
https://files.catbox.moe/o8ex7f.png
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>>580922712
*frost novas u*
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>>580922386
>melee range
cucked
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>>580922613
I fear the sun will come up tomorrow and I will need to breathe manually as a /wowfg/ poster reminds me of this process
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>>580921897
nobody was allied with odyn or even knew what his or helya's deal was at the time and all the vrykul were hostile to everyone
and the forsaken fleet was there explicitly to help the horde character get the aegis while sylvanas ran off to do her own thing by herself, so it was actually genn actively sabotaging the effort against the legion
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>>580922758
Counterpoint: undead paladins look cool as fuck and horde is gonna get ogres.
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>>580922758
moh wasnt a vg guild, it was a weird discord guild that had some overlap with vg posters
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>>580922414
Lorderon was the home base for the knights of the silver hand
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>”guys, were not retail, we promise!”
>shows the most nu-age retail-coded cinematic imaginable
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how do you find your guild?
i feel like 95% of the people in guilds i've been in are people i would not want to be friends with. so, i raid with them out of convenience but i don't particularly like them. they're usually boring or socially inept.
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>>580922465
>the staff of westfall which comes from a level 20 quest had +48 healing and +16/18? spell power on it. this is akin to level 50 vanilla loot.

Honestly my biggest concern with Forever is that the cumulative effect of re-itemization, camping buffs, passive talents being moved to baseline and the reduced downtime from legacy perks will be overall that the game is way too easy. They are all good changes on their own mostly, but when you stack them up it's probably going to mean you die a lot less often.
I probably won't mind it though because IMO baseline 1.12 is annoyingly difficult. Taking 45sec to kill 1 mob and having to spend 15sec eating or drinking from a single pull is not really that fun, even if it is "challenging".
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>stealthily nerfs your melee class

The age of meleecleave is over

The age of Spellpower Ret Paladin stacking has arrived
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>hates wow:forever
>doesnt just play one of his private servers
>he's gonna log into the beta day one
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wow forever home for all
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>>580922886
it was posted in every OP and had things like this posting in every thread. it was a /vg/ guild through and through
this is the 4chan horde demographic. its been the case even before blizzard classic
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When did you first start playing wow? I started during tbc launch.
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>>580922936
By boring do you mean
>they wont say nigger ):
Boring, because if so ive run into plenty of lame guilds like that


If you mean actually interesting people with meaningful things to say you might as well be looking for a needle in a haystack with WoW
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>>580920178
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>>580922775
can you done where the guy is black
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>>580922214
Pretty sure that's because of the heroine, anon...
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>>580922939
>Taking 45sec to kill 1 mob and having to spend 15sec eating or drinking from a single pull is not really that fun, even if it is "challenging".
This isnt even challenging it's just bad game design that people pretend is good because they liked it when they were kids
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>>580923104
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>>580922947
*enter raging blows*
nothing personnel kid, brown bois will top melee dps this frvsh too
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>>580922386
>night elf warrior
>camp at the side of the road in shadowmeld, waiting for mounted horde to pass by
>charge
>spearing strike
>mortal strike
nothing personnel
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>>580922679
scarlet crusade needed more love in WoW, id love see them as some sort of rep grind and becoming neutral with them for some bling. every character i start i need to get the tabard.
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I think I'm going to roll a Shaman. What am I in for both PVP and PVEwise?
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>>580923060
that's because those freaks hijacked every OP and forced their guild into it
the guild lived primarily on discord, recruited on discord, and did some recruitment here as well
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>>580922061
she has solid opinions usually, but this video is pure cope
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>>580923130
based
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I know this is forbidden, but the last titan sneak peek looked pretty sick
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OFFICIAL DPS TIER LIST

S TIER
- Warlock shadowbolt spec
- Enh shaman

A TIER
- Warrior
- Ret pally
- Affliction warlock
- Combat rogue
- Arcane mage
- Spriest
- Boomkin

B TIER
- Frost mage
- Ass and sub rogue
- Hunter all specs

C TIER
- Ele sham
- Fire mage
- Feral druid
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Gnome mages we eating good
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>le epin noble savage horde
>50% of players will play skyborne
>25% of players will play undead paladin alone
>20% of players will play other classes as undead
>the three wacky monster races will be remaining 5% of the population, possibly 6% when ogres come out
we are coming home...
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>>580923136
giving NE the 10% crit chance is so fucking stupid

Forsaken need something better than 5% chance to leech 20HP
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>>580923130
>hot, flat elf
>art isn't hideously uncanny
>r34 is solid
>not a blacked cuck
I don't understand. Slop posters aren't supposed to be this based.
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>>580922775
Thank you!!!
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>>580922936
you should make your own guild anon!
or join an anon guild, <Yotsuba>, EU, roleplay, horde, we be making moves
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>>580923130
Please prompt her wearing a beastly Shaman tier set! Thanks!
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These fog and water effects are so amazing.
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>>580923274
you love turtletroon
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>>580922936
Join my guild, I'm super interesting and likeable
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>first two weeks of beta will be with a level 20 cap
>then 30 opens up
we finna have niggas nostalgia posting about these level caps a year from now
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>>580923219
I wanna play warlock and spam shadowbolts that do massive damage, but I just came off of playing warlock in tbc anniversary and I'm wondering if I should pick something different instead
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>>580923274
It's soulkino.
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meh I hate the changes. combat rogue will stay mostly the same right?
I’ll roll with that then
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How are we feeling about the new classes they're cooking up right now?
Tinkerer looks cool
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>>580923172
cope. it was the most prominent 4chan guild fullstop. if you want to play with 4chan you avoid playing horde fullstop. the creatures you will play with reproduce by grooming and call their homebrew HRT "troonshine"
horde is THE troon faction. this will not magically change in forever
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>>580923086
I first started playing WoW in Vanilla, but only got to lvl 20 as a Dwarf Male Protection Warrior.

A lot of meandering and little tastes of WoW until I finally max leveled a Worgen Male Fury Warrior in Mists of Pandaria.

Then a Human Male Ret Paladin in WOD.
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>>580923219
Remove Shadowbolt spam, shits snorefest
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>>580923409
i wonder if this will be a separate toggle with the retail graphics or not
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>>580923481
Keep it in your containment general, retailrat.
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>>580921505
it is not the closest you'll get to making up for it.
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>>580923090
i mean that's part of it. ultra-safe.
it's that they're usually poorly socialized. like the type of people where if a woman pipes up on the mic in a raid, they're instantly "oh hey haha do you wanna group up after this?" sort of thing.
when i was like, 16, the people i would talk to on vent were pretty normal people. they felt well adjusted. but even in the second phase of sod, the people i'd talk to were fucking goobers. which makes me feel like maybe i'm finding guilds wrong? i'd just respond to people spamming trade chat but maybe if your guild is actively recruiting that way, it attracts retards.
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>>580923481
isn't tinker just someone with engineering?
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>>580923274
ya if only they actually included weather effects, how jewish are they cant find 3 jeet devs to add this in. weather effects are so fucking trivial to add. retail and 2019 proved blizzard doesnt give a fuck about small immersion details like this, they just want to include a bunch of marketing slop to sell it to normies. this was just a way to sell the expansion to faggots who spent 3k on a graphics card so they can feel like they are utilizing their hardware.
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>>580923560
More like you can turn them off in graphics settings
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>>580923560
the toggle is only for the character models
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>>580922947
>Dual Wield Specialization
Giving dual wielding 175% AP modifier was a mistake to begin with.
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>>580922775
best one yet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv2OfNAkHAQ
BlizzCon is ok
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>>580923490
clover club was bigger and they only recruited on /vg/, not on discord. moh was a discord guild
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male undead paladin will be the new human male paladin as the bellwether for a terrible player
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>>580923271
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>>580922061
they taught foids chudspeak
>look inside
monetized russian grifter youtube channel. nothing to see here
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>>580923687
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This is fucking hilarious
Retoilet cucks getting depressed about Forever
>>580923378
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>make a 20 year old game look better than the updated version of the game
what did they mean by this
>>580923462
the good specs in vanilla didn't really get touched much, so combat is basically the same except you can use axes now and it shares with sword spec
it did get buffed though, every combo point you speed reduces the CD on all your cooldowns by 2 seconds
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>>580923687
this sounds TERRIBLE god damn
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>>580922237
Yeah you'd create an insane gulf between players though since a lot of people would bot or just play too much.
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>>580923219
big level 38 meta
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>>580923389
>nogs making an excessive seafood boil
0% chance that wasn't fucking delicious.
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>>580923775
This, she is funded by Putler
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>>580923581
who asked for a trannies opinions? fuck off Agnes
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I'm just gonna say it

95% of the "1000 new quests" will be "kill 10 mobs", and the remaining 5% will be "collect thing 5 minutes walk away"

The immense success of selling $30 blelfs will normalize paywalling more content, and you will be paying out the ass for a new draenei race very soon

Everyone will play the shite out of this, but will be left feeling empty, because the entire project is a quick cashgrab. 99.9% of assets will be reused, and the story will be AI tier

Alex will last no longer than 1.5 months tops
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>>580923763
Cute, thank you!
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>>580923687
i love watching korean whores dance around synchronized
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>>580923219
warrior is S tier by itself
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>>580921978
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What class is the most rng damage? Is it enhance? did anything change this? talking about pvp
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>>580922386
travel form? unbothered
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Does this mean they will make legendaries actually LEGENDARY?
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>>580922254
>He doesn't have adblock
ngmi
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>>580923687
>"singing"
>just talking into a mic like it's discord while music plays in the background
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>>580923846
>or just play too much.
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>>580923219
>feral Druid not in S tier
Lmao have you read the talents?
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>can't /spit
>can't have le problematic names
>can't say the n word
>can't toggle retail undead paladin mount
imagine paying a monthly subscription to be in globohomo, forever.
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>>580921154
no more futa shit in the chat now
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>>580923957
what the fuck is up near moonglade? i feel like this map is severely gassed up, all ive seen is like 1 new zone on eastern kalimdor
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man i fucking hate last names and I don't wanna pick one
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>>580923763
Prompt her with a giant futa cock and balls
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>>580923259
Most sloppers are lazy and dont mix up styles or use old outdated overbaked models/loras
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>>580923219
does enhancement have a manafix yet? boomkin looked hilariously awful because they oom'd in 45 seconds doing single target when I was watching people do the level 40 dungeons
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>>580924096
Anon do you really think they're gonna release all new zones at launch? They want to stretch this stuff, well, forever.
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>>580923227
I will quietly enjoy my herb-picking, drug-alchemizing, troll warlock amidst a sea of fever dream blue elves sluts and forsaken paladins.
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>>580923972
Enhance has always been the gambler spec. Your windfury, flurry and weapon+trinket all proc at the same time and you 100 to 0 a poor clothie in 0.1 seconds or it doesn't and you get kited to death
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>>580918891
Woke up from hibernation early, must be a big deal.
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>>580924159
I'm addicted to this skelf
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>play the nw forsaken kingdom wc3
>actually kino
i feel hopium
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>>580923687
who is the audience for this
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Turtlebros...was it worth losing everything for this?
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>>580924154
i will now buy your $30 pre order
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>>580923895
I've already done a break down of quests. It's split horde/alliance, so 500 quests each. 100 odd for new starting zone, 200 for dungeons, 300 for the other new zones, 400 split across the existing zones/new raids/class quests/profession quests/random zone link quests/misc.
1000 seems like a not but it isn't really when broken down.
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>>580924334
as if they had a choice
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>>580924006
i have adblock and i dont even want to give her 1 singular view or any algorithmic boost by interacting with her content
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>>580924310
I don't understand their appeal. They look like they came from a kpop training factory. No soul
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>>580923228
It's 5% free proc dmg/heal that scales up to 5% of max health. Assuming there's no DR, that's a free Lifestealing enchant (on top of whatever weapon change you use on top of it) for any direct attack, scaling on AP (or SP)

That's Reckoning/Flurry Axe for Paladin, DoTs for Warlocks, let alone the attack speed of both Rogues and Fury Warriors. Touch of the Grave is absolutely bonkers. You just don't know.
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>>580924159
Cute!!
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>>580924310
she's ready for skyborne high order d
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>>580924334
no
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>>580923614
The only time ive seen people really say some off the cuff shit is if youre in the inner clique of the guild, or hang out late night after raids for PvP and shit

Except then its just 4 retards spouting off about the jews and if youre not sick of that kind of shit already then idk what to tell you
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>>580924161
You can get constant 100% mana regen on an Enhance Shaman so long you hit Stormstrike every 15 seconds.
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>>580924310
imagine the smell
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I'll be honest. As someone who played SoD all the way through from phases 1-8, I ain't feeling Forever. I seriously hope there's more to come because some specs seem like they're going to be dogshit to play.
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>>580923957
>2 new zones + zandalar + tel'abim + broken isles
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>>580924310
Dat not New Jeans...
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Zero people have explained to my why any classic player would give a shit about horizontal progression.
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>>580924159
too flat and ass not big enough
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>>580924310
sloppa anon, please slop the sky elf doing this pose.
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>>580924153
>>580923130
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>>580924417
Yeah but I'll take this over trap or rappers or whatever
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>>580924417
>They look like they came from a kpop training factory.
Well yeah. That's how the idol industry works. It's exploitative as fuck and that rope them in young.
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>>580918701
Have we confirmed with the new draw distance if you can see Tedrassil from dark shore

And furthermore if you can does it actually look like a tree and not a stump?
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>>580924583
There is no horizontal progression
They revealed it's just miserable gruul DST type shit where you have to drag 19 other people back to an old raid so you can get one item
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>>580922001
>browns crying
Love to see it. My greatest wish is for warriors to be slightly below average dps.
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>>580924310
When I went to blizzcon in 2008 one of the headliners was an incredibly sweaty Patton Oswalt. Pretty funny set.
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>>580924442
buddy pvp battles end in less than 5 or 6 abilities. if you think a 5% proc chance to heal for 20HP is going to make fuckall of a difference when other classes have bleed/poison immunity or stun removal i can only call you a retard
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>>580924583
because you can't put gear that's better than Naxx gear into the game or the game breaks
it basically already does with Naxx gear, it's just too strong
so if you want to have new stuff to do you have to not make things just an item level upgrade at some point
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>Entire retail general has already come to terms with the fact that this is WOW2 and retail is dying after the next expac.

Are... are retail players freed? Just to be imprisoned by classic?
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it's up

https://youtu.be/ozkcsWSktKw
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>>580924698
>BlizzCon when they had Jay Mohr host it
we didn't know how good we had it
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>all those items with bonus damage against undead
lol there is no shot that will work against forsaken, right?
Imagine having a forsaken killer 9000 set for pvp would be funny af
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>>580924698
I like when they had Jay Mohr for a few years because he very clearly didn't really know or give a shit about Warcraft but seemed like he was enjoying himself.
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>>580924310
Asian women are so fucking ugly
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>>580924442
>up to
If spell damage is anything to go by, that just means it's never 5% unless you proc it off pyroblast.
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>>580924442
It'd be no different to the Hunter BM passive health regen, in fact it will probably work out to be worse.
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>>580924758
every single nilla content creator is balding
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>>580924758
I don't get it.
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>>580924442
Retail brainrotted. Fights arent going to last longer than 30 seconds. That isn't how PvP worked until late cata or early MoP.
Even in wrath you could kill someone in unhealable damage as a mage with pyro proc and toss it with a fireball for a duo crit.
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>>580924698
was that before he killed his wife?
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>>580924624
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>>580924334
Turtlewow and the other pservers were all dogdookie ran by troonies and they all sold gold/boosts/cheated if you gave them enough money.
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>>580924794
Forsaken are humanoids, hilariously enough. So they don't count.
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>>580924701
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>>580924963
all but nost
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>>580924583
A dozen people answered you and you didn't like the answers so you asked 11 more times.
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>>580924497
that seems nice. i hope its enough. having to drop 400 mana every 6 seconds for shocks alone sounds brutal for a hybrid dps to upkeep
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>>580924952
what do blelf panties smell like?
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>>580924159
>>580923130
unbelievably based. I am the OP that demands gooner content and I approve.
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>>580924963
Modern wow is dogdookie made by trannies and they all cheated mythic+ clears for you if you were an egirl, so I don't see the big difference here.
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>>580924758
>all expenses trip to blizzcon paid for
>hey guys classic is great
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>>580925089
rain
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>>580924767
I got so drunk during it, was lucky I went with my buddy because I was only 20 at the time and he was 21.

>>580924797
Yeah he was kind of exactly what I expected him to be from the shit I'd seen him in up until that point, poor man's Ethan Embry imo.
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>>580925001
Thought so, real bummer
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I'm thinking of making a Troll survival hunter with lone wolf. The new regeneration would be great for leveling and berserking for dps.
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>>580924758
every time I consider getting a hair transplant, I remember preach exists
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>1000+ new quests
>new zones and dungeons
>camping
>600 new profession recipes and revamped recipes
It would be based if they set xp to 0.5 so it takes even longer to 60
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YOU KILLED. TRUTTLE FOR THIS BLUE SMURF ELF FKING FAGGOT SHIT????

YUO FKING FK BLIZZARD BITCH CUNT U TOOJ MY FUN FREE SERVER. YOU KILLED MY FRIENDS. I NEVER PAY U BITCH. FKING FK FKING HOLLY CUNT BITCH KYS KYSSSSSSS

FOREVER WOW
MORE LIKE
TROONREVER WOW LOL

LOL
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>>580924758
>balding pudgy 40 year old is the average demographic of this game now
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Why haven't they mentioned death knights yet. What is going on.
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>You will play WoW Forever
>You will roll an undead paladin
>You will have a skyborn alt
>You will date an asian women

These are the milestones of success in 2026, deal with it.
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>>580925230
as someone who did 0.5x on turtle, its too much bro
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>see what people want
>do the opposite of what people want
Can Microsoft please fire every blizzard employee?
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>>580923219
>Enhancement Shaman
>S Tier
LOL!
LAMAO!
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>>580925243
>
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Ok this is all cool and everything but are they going to fix 1.12 AV? This shit wasn't supposed to be a boss rush, alterac valley is filled with 500 billion different cool mechanics to make it feel like a huge epic battle and everyone ignores them. There was a huge outrage over it when classic was first released but then everyone just forgot about it but it's still a massive fucking problem
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>>580925271
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>>580925243
actual jeet losing his mind
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been bullying /wowg/ for an hour straight. feels so good bros. several of them are in complete shock/denial still
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>>580925376
this.
also remove flask of petri
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>>580925243
oh no the same slavs and chinks running every private server scam for like 15 years wont be able to afford rent
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>>580924583
How the fuck do you even need this explained to you?
>Play Classic
>Everyone in the same zones on EK + Kal
>World is constantly full of people doing shit
>Expansion comes out
>Everyone moves to a new zone and has to level up
>Old world dies and becomes empty
>Old content becomes completely irrelevant because you hit DLC level way before finishing EK+Kal
>Do this again
>And again
>And again
>And again

Every single problem WoW has ever faced has stemmed from constantly upping the levels and introducing completely divorced zones
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>>580924334
Yeah, Epoch was better for the brief gasp of life it had.
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Torn between either
>rogue
>enhance

I mostly wanna pvp, rogue didnt get shadow step and seems a little slow in classic pvp, what do you guys think
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>>580925038
and im saying that 99% of people aren't going to stick around for slightly more optimized stat spreads
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>>580925292
I distinctly remember asmongold saying that he doesn't find asians attractive

Did he get the call?
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>>580923895
> you will be paying out the ass for a new draenei race very soon
I’d gladly pay $60 for hot Draenei bitches. It’s amazing how little you seethe over such things when you have disposable income.
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>>580924096
Bro go study the actual vanilla map they have a bunch of them online

There’s big fabs of territory basically just unused areas between other zones that were never utilized north of moinglad is basically an unused north coast of kalimdor

It could fit a thin long zone like dark shore
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>>580925038
he is clearly baiting at this point, so ignore his retarded ass
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>>580925089
Gonna agree with the other guy, rain
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Having trouble thinking of a last name.
Is picking a RP lastname like "Crimsonblade" or something for Rogue pretty cringe?
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>>580925532
rogue has always been top tier in vanilla pvp
they be getting power creeped though
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>>580925230
those "new quests" include every chain from one which could be like turning in talking to another dude 5 feet away and then another dude. thats 3 quests right there
dont be tricked
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>>580925524
ok but without new level cap you cant have progression how do I get to higher level without new level cap???
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I wasted my weekend watching Blizzcon and forgot to goon
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>we're not adding expertise because it's sooooo not vanilla amirite guys fuck tbc ayee
>btw we're combining hit and spell hit (like in wrath)
>also crit and spell crit (like in wrath)
>also healing power comes with some spell damage (like in tbc)
hmm
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>>580925532
it's going to be paladins everywhere so rogue might not be the best choice
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>>580925532
but if by slow you mean taking forever to win a 1v1, then yes
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>>580924334
Yes, that game was fucking amateur trash.
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more class/race combos is a bad thing
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Lads, level with me.
No other race comes close to Orc if I want to make an Enhancement Shaman, right?
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>>580924952
Doing the Lord’s work
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Gonna just stick to PvE and live a happy life.
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>>580925641
Never ask a pureblooded aryan paladin the race of his wife
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>>580925532
rogue without shadowstep and cloak and having all their CDs put back to being 5 minutes pretty much makes them dead on arrival
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is sod totally dead?
i wanna play wow.
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>>580925548
This game is not being made for M+ or raid loggers. It isn't about finishing the game. Do you PvP? Its going to be more like that. There will be some rating, but it really wont matter that much because all the rewards at elite wont be that difficult to hit. Gear? You get it when you get it, even without it the difference is slim with how many other factors are involved in a battleground (no arenas in WoWF)
You have to play for FUN.
Its not about finishing the current content as fast as possible. You log in because its fun to do the content. There is already no new content for PvP, its the same fucking battlegrounds and arenas. People still log in every day to play WSG or AB.
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I am going to play forever, look at lewd elves and have fun
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>>580925532
the things that made rogue stupid in vanilla still exist. too much control with blind and prep. they even buffed hemo if you're using daggers.
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>>580925615
yes ive been playing this game for 20+ years, i remember reading wowwiki in 2005 before TBC came out and they discussed all these areas that were going to be new zones before the jews got involved and turned every expansion into a segregated map. im fully aware of every single open space in azeroth. i want real proof of dev time on this shit not just a power point from a blizz dev saying "we promise to do something with this shit bro"
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>>580925642
Be free.
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>>580925843
access to the beta is only $100
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>>580925852
>You have to play for FUN.
all the fun in wow comes from better gear and bigger numbers
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>>580925765
I like the backstory behind this painting makes this guy look like the town retard, the burden society must tolerate.
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>>580925719
slow movement speed in general, no shadow step, etc

>>580925820
that is also how i feel

>>580925894
feels like others got more way, shaman got a fucking 3 min lust lol
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paladins everywhere? just play priest
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>>580925174
>>580925017
ayo this nigga posted in the wrong thread!!!
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>>580925641
clothed blelfer facesitting on john paladins face (blelfer butt close up)
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shaman is going to be overplayed isnt it
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>>580925765
You are right and I agree, because it detracts from racial identity. Orc mages, dwarf shamans and gnome priests are retarded. Human hunter is okay but still makes hunter feel less savage and wild.

I also think neutral races and horde pallies/ally shams are retarded too though for the same reasons. Removing exclusivity removes identity. Removing identity removes theme. And if the factions lose their theme then there's no point of horde and alliance in the first place
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>>580926016
in no version of the game has this been true
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>>580925934
>feels like others got more way, shaman got a fucking 3 min lust lol
for pvp that isn't too big of a problem and it doens't give the damage reduc from shamistic rage they get in tbc. enh has some mobility issues. if they get close up yeah they'll truck you but they're not getting up close with a rogue
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>>580925915
I just explained to you how it doesn't with regards to gear in pvp for over a decade now. There is no grind in pvp for gear, you just get the gear and play. Numbers don't matter, its a percentage of damage being done, the number could be Disgaea trillions or just double digits.
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>>580925934
I mean the game doesn't have much mobility to begin with. Sprint does a lot. Skelf has an extra mini sprint also
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>>580925532
You will get kited a lot as enhance. It will be extremely frustrating most of the time. You won’t get insane windfury crits most of the time when you do connect. Every once in a while you’ll absolutely delete some noob. Enhance will always be first in line for nerfs, never receiving any buffs.
Enhance is clearly the gigachad choice, always has been.
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only classes i enjoy are the hybrids
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>>580926016
horde will be 90% undead paladins and blue elf shaman
alliance will be mostly the same
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>>580926016
shaman is objectively the most boring class
it will never be overplayed
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>>580925964
I did, you caught me. I like WoW and Darktide, there is true evil contained within me.
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This is the only definitive list we should be looking at (by the face of classic wow) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QhU5CegEvE
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>>580925895
They are adding three new zones from these former areas (plus a new island)

They are also expanding existing zones into some of these areas like tiristfall glades and the ruins of lorderon

This is all in the panels and announcements already all on YouTube just look it up

Since thee hole idea of forever is to true to stay on Azeroth they basically have now choice but to use these area eventually
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>>580925894
>the rogue might have a chance if he uses all his CDs including the 10 minute one
Such a crazy post when even shield wall now is under a 4 minute CD

Shieldwall recovers faster than Vanish and Sprint.
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>>580925769
>level with me
Alright, but I'm gonna be brutally fucking honest: You should play the race that you want to play. And if you don't, you're nothing but a failure and a disappointment. Not to me. Not to anyone else in /wowfg/. But to yourself.
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>>580926089
alliance only has dwarf shamans, so it's going to be pretty rare
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>>580926016
shaman is always underplayed in vanilla
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>>580926016
i want to play shaman but can't stand dorf
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>>580926164
by same i mean, same as regular classic for the most part
not same as the expected horde
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>>580926079
youre right anon, also when everyone has good gear shaman gets fucked too
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>>580926049
Dwarf shaman is fine actually

>>580926232

I thought h was a sh
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>>580925665
jpeg of drooling frog
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>>580925648
>rogue has always been top tier in vanilla pvp
ganking low level noobs is not pvp. spreists are the best class, followed by warlock. rogues are bottom tier unless you have all your cooldowns
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>>580926016
>ele isn't even a good support spec just low damage
>enhance gets to juggle totems and run out of mana
>no one wants to heal
you'll be safe
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>>580926016
If there's anything I've learned from all these years, is that shaman is the easiest class to get into any raid that they want. RLs will literally grovel at your feet and beg them to join their raids.
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>>580926268
It's just a slightly modified retail UI. It's almost certainly what they're going with.
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>streamers/influencers all make "it's not for you" videos before reveal
>now they're all making "we're finally home" videos
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>>580926326
well you're clearly talking about duels, so yeah a rogue will have his CDs up
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>>580926146
shield wall to get under that time must be talented deep in prot. are you stupid?
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I will play femDwarf shaman
I will demand HR on Healer BiS to attend your raids.
I will be geared before you.
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>>580925532
>rogue
You live and die by your cooldowns. You're the best class at locking down niggers for a very long time. If I run into WSG and don't see you defending the flagroom I will strangle you.
>enhance
If it doesn't wear plate you can oneshot it. 10% of every 100% of the time. Ultimate gambler spec. You can be VERY annoying to fight because you have a wrench to throw in every other class their wheels. Grounding totem fucks with spellcasters, Earthbind and Frost Shock let's you kite melee, Tremor fucks up Locks and Priests. Purging fucks up Druids.

The problem is you have zero hard CC (Earthbind root is too deep in Ele tree) so you have to kill things QUICK or you'll A. Lose on mana or B. Get kited to death.
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>>580923687
were attendees allowed to at least play the demo during this lol
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Unironically, FWoW is going to be 100% better to play alliance than horde over the simple fact that the edge-lord race is getting paladin, so every motherfucker is going to play horde. Every streamerfag will also go horde leaving the alliance virtually pure and based. It's going to be so fucking comfy.
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>>580926209
Same. I love the class but I fucking hate dwarves and it looks like my guild will play alliance. Armor looks fucking shit on dwarves and the animations suck.
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>>580926382
Great. Where's my talents to get my CDs to reasonable levels? 5 minutes for everything to even attempt a 1 fight is a joke
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they NEED to add a classic UI option
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Playing WC3 reforged i remembered that murloc were a thing
Why did they turn them into a meme in wow?
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>>580926373
who gives a shit about streamers
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>>580926383
Playing shaman is so nice. I demand raid leaders/pugs to send me THEIR logs so convince me to join them, and they're desperate enough to do anything to get you to join.
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>>580926395
it's going to be better to play Alliance because the racials are insane
NE getting both a big crit on use and vanish is nuts
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>>580926391
Tbh a rogue don't need to rely on its CDs as much if they go daggers. Ambush+backstab+backstab (thistle tea) backstab and almost everyone is already dead.

CDs are more for when you're hemo and someone breaks your stunlock
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>>580926452
I like dorfs but I just can't play one. I like their lore and cities it's real cool but I just can't.
It's like having a friend you get along with and enjoy the company of but you think to yourself yeah I never want to be that guy.
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>>580926482
funny sound
also they notoriously destroy new players
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the group i played classic and sod with want to be horde now
horde is going to be fucking aids
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Oh yeah some streamer said Shaman's travel form works indoors
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I am freed of retail.. I'm coming home lads I just saw the news
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>>580926330
>WotLK Elemental except Lava Burst is actually allowed to scale with crit
I would be surprised if Elemental's damage isn't at least solidly middle of the pack. It looks pretty good.
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>>580923130
post it with futa or shit taste
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>>580926515
sform isnt a vanish, thats retail. this is auto stealth when out of combat and not moving
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Can't wait to roll a Prot Warrior and be considered a god amongst all players.
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>>580926616
The issue with eles wasn't the low damage, in vanilla their damage was actually very high. The issue was completely with mana management, they just go oom after 5 casts.
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>>580926079
you can ghost wolf indoors now
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>>580926585
Improved Ghost Wolf does that. Very based inclusion.
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>>580926585
it's in the talent
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>>580926482
It's not that murlocs are good, but that darkspear trolls are so pathetically weak that they lost to murlocs in WC3 and then got owned through all of retail lore.
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>>580925675
>we're not adding expertise because it's sooooo not vanilla amirite guys fuck tbc ayee
wait I just continued the deep dive and he says 10 minutes later they added a stat to reduce chance to be parried or dodged? after explicitly saying no expertise? and pretending this is a new stat?
wtf is this about
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>>580919479
Uh yeah, same way you had to be an Alliance for the Gnome run.
Dumbass.
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>>580926118
can this guy clear is fucking throat already it's been how many years???
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So were all the panels today nothing burgers?
I watched the hardcore panel and they didn't provide any new info whatsoever
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>>580926695
Lmao.
Dude do you realize how many paladins there will be? All of which can offspec to fill tanks?
You've outlived your usefulness.
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>>580926582
My friends begged me too but i said Alliance as always
i aint chilling in mudhut capital
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>>580926560
Exactly that. I like seeing dwarves in the world. But I don't want to be one.
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>>580926552
>rogue doesnt need CDs to win
>presents a scenario where a 5 minute CD consumable is needed
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>>580926463
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/warrior
talent trees
>>580926552
>yfw they made hemo be 145% wep damage at only 35 energy cost with daggers
rogues will be insufferable
(i will play rogue)
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SIR, here's the horizontal progression you requested!
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thoughts?
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>>580922057
The Avatar
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>>580926005

https://files.catbox.moe/ubohv3.png
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>>580926698
I'm operating under the assumption that Blizzard actually intends to ameliorate that. That remains to be seen, but if their mana isn't particularly cumbersome than I think they'll be pretty good.
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>>580926780
>Dude do you realize how many paladins there will be? All of which can offspec to fill tanks?
Lmao, lol. Have you even played WoW before? Just because a class CAN tank, doesn't mean the player will. Furthermore we're talking about "I'm the main character" ret players. They will never tank.
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>>580926903
WoW: Gnomes Forever
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>>580926953
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>>580926780
>Dude do you realize how many paladins there will be? All of which can offspec to fill tanks?
same amount as always on ally
on the horde it doesn't matter because all the edgelord retards playing undead pala will be ret only
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What is the definitive healslut race/class combo?
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>>580926901
>x'caliboar
upper level 30s and low 40s undead absolutely destroyed
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>>580926901
>so much bullshit i have i buy the extra bank slots for $5 a pop from the blizzard store
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>>580926903
Cunny Priests are gonna be fantastic.
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>>580926903
>gnomes get aoe flashbang and intervention
broken already. gnomes are the new best race
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>>580927058
shut the fuck up you stupid faggot
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>>580927029
pserver troons will try to convince me that's not peak kino and SOVL
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>>580925820
Good. Fuck rogueniggers. Deserve to be bullied into extinction and youre going to be. Nice evasion, daggot. Suck on this holy sh(c)ock that ignores it and deals half your health pool while you gently caress my shield.
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>>580926964
kino
nta but can you do one where his nose is placed straight at her blue butthole?
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>>580926901
Looks like revamped items to me? They work.
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>>580926972
It kind of looks promising cause you can just path into resto and get mana regen during casting + water shield + stack spirit gear. The base damage is ridiculously high that you don't actually need any ele talents or gear to rape mobs/pvp.
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>LFM Molten core, PST only if you're Skyborne with +5% elemental damage racial and have 1.7k elemental damage bonus gear
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Honest to God if I can just have Renataki's Charm of Trickery again I will be happy.
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>>580926964
Should have been a rimjob.
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>>580927058
Sky elf druids and priests will be the biggest cocksleeves
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>>580926903
nelves get mirror image from dnd and a giga nuke
gnomes get aoe scatter shot wtf man
dorf looks overall very strong
trolls looks alright
human and ud should get one more right?
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What is the most chad, high test, straight af race/sex/class combo?
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>>580926901
nice of them to give us a move speed buff on an item you get after finishing the zone lmfao chatgpt niggers
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Have they said if there'd be more than just dualspec?
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>Wowprivate server general is down to 1 post every 40 minutes
blizzard won...
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>>580927171
I can't believe I've had to say this twice already. Re-read Water Shield, anon.
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>>580926901
I love the items but they need to make a new bag/armory system


I know its also a me issue with being a hoarder but there is no shot you can balance that many items with the standard classic inventory system
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>>580926964
nooooooo you cant just put your juicy elf slit on my face!! Garithos help meee
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wished i could have paid $30 to unlock high elves and goblins on turtle wow
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>>580927273
Orc/Human male warrior
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>>580927273
fem skelf shaman
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>>580926360
does retail have the wyverns? thats cool
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>>580927232
>Sky elf druids
Will resto actually be good? Being a mark/ff bot in vanilla was lame.
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>>580927232
Sex elves can't be Priests. Their healslut options are Druid, and Shaman if they're Horde.
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>>580926582
>find a fun group to play SoD with
>have to drop the game halfway through
>Forever announced and check up on the discord
>9 additional new officers (???)
>10-15 new members from tbc raiding
>join a call one day
>nothing in common with anyone and too OOTL to participate in anything meaningfully
sometimes life isn't fair
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>>580927468
No because they brought back disc bubble spam
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>>580925292
>>580925570
I love the mind shattering, dizzyingly delirious cognitive dissonance that this situation must've caused for his fans since they're the exact type of people who clowned on iDubbbz for dating an OnlyFans whore and now their idol is doing the same thing except it's even worse since it's transparently a career move on her part.
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>>580927018
They will tank.
Just like every single fury warrior that was forced to tank to get any prebis.
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>>580927353
Ok? It consumes a charge when you get hit, like intended. Or are you referring to the healing portion, because that's just an alternative way of consuming the charge.
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im having a really tough time playing hardcore right now cuz i just wanna play the fucking beta already.

cant make my fucking mind up between Shammy/warlock/priest/Druid/melee hunter either. SUFFERING

like on paper a lone-wolf survhunter sounds dope AF
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Never thought Id see the day that retail won, but here we are.
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>>580927327
It only took a billion years but classic is good for once?? let's hope it lasts more than just months
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>>580927578
>Just like every single fury warrior that was forced to tank to get any prebis.
They weren't tanking. They were just doing damage and holding aggro.
Tanking = equpping a shield and doing poor damage.
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>>580927148
https://files.catbox.moe/rypqfk.png
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>>580927575
you assume that asmongold fans are capable of thinking
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>>580927580
>get hit to consume charges for miniscule mana
>piss off your healers and waste GCD's to reapply your pitiful mana battery
Absolutely not worth it for Elemental. If it were WotLK WS it would be. But it just isn't.
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>>580927709
absolutely based sloppa poster still. i've saved some of these for the next threads
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Anyone know how respecing will work?
Can we freely change around specs or are we getting raped for 50g each time again?
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>>580927468
Shorter GCD and wild growth makes them potentially the best raid healers, but mana economy remains to be seen.
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>>580927647
people will be begging for retail when their banks are full of gear sets for different enemy races and meme situational items from a low level westfall quest
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>>580926903
>Blizzard was based enough to leave Troll with their Shadowguard spell
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Thank FUCK. Now I am 100% going for a Troll Shadow Priest.
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>>580927709
>still not a rimjob
Saddest of days.
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>>580927543
you have to keep up with your friendships even if you dont want to or this will happen with every relationship you have and you die alone.
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>>580927796
There's dual spec at least.
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>>580927796
there is dual spec which should be available at 40 (considering no one doing the demo had it unlocked at level 38) and expectedly have a costt
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Yeah I'm going to main undead paladin.
The mount looks sick.
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>>580927709
I kneel
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>>580927709
>>580927783
samefagging isnt cool anon
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>>580927623
just pick the one you find coolest. Any question of 'sub optimal' is beaten by saying that you're playing with the odds stacked against you so if you do good then that's an achievement in itself.
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>>580927796
There seems to be dualspec, dunno about the details
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>>580927774
I mean, I was talking in the context of leveling/pvp. I don't think ele will be viable raiding unless Blizzard does serious itemization pandering. You're getting hit all the time while leveling so I think water shield is very good and worth it.
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have they said anything about buffing content to make up for all the new gear they are adding? It looks like they plan on just throwing blue gear at people
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>>580927940
Erm...
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>whole point of spells is that they are strong as fuck so even at low levels where all you have is stam and int you are hitting huge numbers
>but muh shitter healer cant figure out how to play the game so let's just throw 50sp on staff on westfall!
I hate it
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>>580927940
>t. seething pserver troon
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>>580927698
>Tanking = equpping a shield and doing poor damage
This fucking retard thinks Feral bear isn't a tank.
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What's more OP, Paladins breaking Fear/Sleep or Paladins breaking Stuns?

Probably Fears right since Warlocks always soft countered Paladins?
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how is resto druid looking bros
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>>580927698
retard
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>>580928034
yeah I don't understand having a ton of spell power on caster leveling gear when they were fine
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>>580927029
ashenvale, dustwallow and duskwood look amazing with these shadows, rays and soulgas
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>>580928016
>>580927940
hey it's me on the other side!
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>>580927709
need one in the same position where her asshole is eaten out mr sloppa man
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who got time for all this shit each week, honestly
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back in the days of vanilla, if you woulda said 'Undead Paladin' you woulda got people lookin at ya like you have two heads!
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>>580926903
War/Priest double gnome comps are gonna be the terror of battlegrounds.
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>>580927940
This faggot does this shit literally nonstop day in and out in the retoilet general. Constantly replying to himself over and over pretending like fucking anyone gives a shit about ai porn.
Just have to filter because xhe's going to shit up the thread nonstop
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>>580928080
mogged by shaman and paladin
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>>580924952
based thank you
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>>580927905
it will have a cost in real money, calling it now
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>>580928120
What do you mean each week? This is cheevos.
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>>580928062
bear form is the shield.
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>>580927940
lol on you caught me
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we go agane
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>>580928065
Depends entirely on how many Rogues there are.

Stuns are the most powerful CC in the game but at will usage is limited to very few classes and outside Rogues they all have longish CDs.
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honest you wont even want to dual spec because gearing will be such a bitch
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>>580928120
>do some raids
Wow what a crazy challenge
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>>580927709
>>580926964
why is the blue asshole so mesmerizing, bros?
she has such an eatable ass. holy shit.
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>>580926780
Yeah thats not how it happens. Most warriors refuse to tank in the first place. Even more paladins will refuse to tank.
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Will leveling actually be challenging like it was in classic, or will it be completely brainless like retail?
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>>580927940
Made that he's getting so much more attention than you?
Gonna cry about it?
Maybe shit up the general even more you pathetic little bitch?
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>>580928223
I don't dual spec because I want characters to be neatly categorized into their specs.
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>>580928065
stunbreaking will be, because of other racials

vampirism on a paladin doesnt really help much they dont have fast enough attacks to make it worthwhile

undead warlocks are going to be a FUCKING nightmare to fight though
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>>580928176
You will do all 21 raid bosses each week or you will fall behind and not be invited
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>>580928120
>kill all the bosses in a raid
holy shit, these cheevos are next level... not enough time
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>>580928120
>what do you mean this totally optional content takes a while to complete!?!?!??!!??!?!
>cant I just buy it in the shop or pay someone to boost me thru it in 15 minutes while I afk doomscroll???
Nigger.
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>>580928228
>why is the blue asshole so mesmerizing, bros?
Hot elf bitches just be like that
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>>580927969
They've been pretty explicit about wanting every spec to be functional in a raid group. The only thing Elemental might have as an issue is mana, and there are tons is fixes for that. I haven't even seen how their mana expenditure looks in practice yet to it may already be comparable to other casters. If it isn't a big issue, they'll be good in raids. And if it is, it'll be fixed.
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>all it took was some porn for the general to flip on skelves

The mind of man is simple
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>>580928149
surely druid won't be shafted
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>>580928146
It's rather sad desu. I miss when these threads wasnt full of zoomer gooners and discord nonces.
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>>580928120
I read that boss name as Sonya Darksorrow and was about to get really mad for a second...
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are we looking forward to 50% of both factions being paladins (dps of course, they will never heal)
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>>580928360

Through elf wifeys.
Unity.
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>>580928120
dayum. 13 in hyjal and 8 in barrow dens + ony. grand total of 22 bosses when raids open up.

the time-lost battalion in hyjal is interesting,.. alluding to some timeline changes? will we see a group of raiders in TBC gear that we have to fight. or will we see some random groups from WC3 hyjal summit campaign troops.
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>>580928223
>honest you wont even want to dual spec because gearing will be such a bitch
Dual spec typically just means you have a raid spec and a farming / pvp spec.
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>>580928360
Nobody likes paypig elves or their paypig players anon. We are going to get another emote deleted spamming at them.
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>>580928180
>semantic faggotry
The second 1H you can party with is also a shield in that case, cumsucker.
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>>580928267
You are maybe the most Indian person i've ever seen on this website
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>caster specs will have infinite mana due to spirit being better and 30% mana regen in combat
>lotta reduction costs on casters and they most likely reduced mana costs on higher ranks up to 60
>this will mean casters will be the most brainless fucking things in existence and only have to pay attention to threat meters
>press [Shadow Bolt] but for all casters
yep, its boomer unc time
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>>580928120
ravus and darlissa in barrow deeps.
eredar twin gooner type? names seem elven though... demon hunter type bosses? or crazed wardens/sentinels.
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>>580928491
Projecting again, are we spergo?
No no - please don't stop seething on my account. We all enjoy a good self report.
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is spriest or lock any fun in pvp

seems kinda boring ngl
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>>580928228
>she has such an eatable ass
And yet still no rimjob.
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>>580928360
NOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT SEXY ELVES!!!
YOU WANT HECKIN' OGRES!!!!!!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!!
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>>580925243
Based. Fuck this company and it's paypigs.
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Gnome Rogue is gonna be so tight.
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Do you wanna know what the sign of a good game is?
I'm spoiled for choice. I want to play so many different characters.

Troll Shadow Priest.
Orc Enhancement Shaman.
Blue Elf Boomkin.
Fire Mage.
Prot Warrior.

I'm so fucking excited to play. I don't know how the fuck I'm going to hold out for next few weeks until I can...
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>>580926058
It's kinda true in retail right now. There's a lot of shamans in the current season.
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>>580928425
>will we see a group of raiders in TBC gear that we have to fight
>Faction Champions from ToC
I don't think I like this very much.
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>>580928553
all these classes look boring now honestly
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>>580928246
Screenshotted
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>>580928491
What if I told you that more than half of the posters here are shitskins larping as wow players?
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>>580927018
No bro, I never played WoW beofore, I just randomly stumbled across 4chan, /vg/, WoW, Prot Warriors, World of Warcraft and the internet randomly bro, this was all just random.
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Blizzard devs need to realize if they drop hints on future enemies or races or whatever a little earlier on everyone will accept them. They did it right with Xal'atath. The Arathi Empire too honestly.

Jailer
>WoD: Have the Shadowmoon Clan mysteriously talk about a Jailer and Ner'zhul mention seeing the Maw when he dies.
>Legion: Have Sylvanas namedrop a Jailer in Stormheim.

Dracthyr
>Legion: Have the Highmountain find evidence of some dragon humanoid race created by Deathwing and say some shit like "Earth mother help us if they ever awake."

Haranir
>BFA: Have Magni say something like 'Azeroth's told me to find her children but I dunnae know where to look.'
>SL: Have some Kyrian-in-training mention being something called a Haranir and having no knowledge of whatever race you are despite sharing the same world.

Skyborne
>Have the Primalists send someone to seek out the Skyborne who serve under Thunderaan and then come back like "idk they weren't there maybe they never existed."
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>see a bunch of people saying Forever looks like shit
>only 4chan and reddit are stroking themselves to it
really makes me think.
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>>580928459
The point being that fury warriors weren't actually tanking. They just happened to do so much more damage than all the other classes that they happened to get aggro. They didn't use any of the tanking talents. They didn't use the tanking stance. They played damage dealer.
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>>580928617
mechanically yes but it will suck not to be able to appreciate your own gear
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>>580928553
Lock is death coil into Fear into dot dot dot life drain dead

Spriest is fear into mindblast into dot dot BLACKOUT PROC mindflay dead

Theyre both not exactly high IQ, there's probably more nuance with Lock but Spriest can heal and throw people off cliffs with MC which is funny.
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>>580928120
so are they just gonna port over the hyjal raid or they gonna just redo it? it being first when we used to do molten bore would be something
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>>580928640
Linvail is already taken, just an fyi.
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>undead paladins!? volumetric fog!?
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>>580928553
warlock is the bitch class who sits in the back and just tab targets all their dots

it'll be one of my three (3) classes.
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>>580928553
Bro if neither of those options seems fun in PvP then that's a you problem. Because they're both excellent and fun as fuck.
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>>580928360
we are united in the goon
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>>580928228
>>580928106
>>580927893

https://files.catbox.moe/gv90rg.png
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>>580928724
>>580928769
both just seem kinda low octane gameplay
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>>580926016
Is resto shaman looking to be good? I can't decide on a healer.
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>>580928757
that surname belongs to larian you faggot freak
you don't get to claim it
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I bought the skelf. Playing with my wife on the roleplay ruleset. Browns could never.
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>>580928223
I had no problems keeping four sets up in Turtle
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>>580928795
anon is simply too based, you spoil us too much...
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Do we know which talent spells are being moved to baseline? For example Divine Spirit is being moved out of the talent tree completely so i assume its just basline now
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>>580928818
the only high octane pvp classes are the melee ones so roll warrior or rogue
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>>580928715
If they're deliberately drawing aggro so that the boss hits them and not other people, they're tanking, retard. And that's what people were doing.
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The reason why warrior tanks looked so bad at Blizzcon were because they were wearing shields and not just 2h arms dpsing (while holding aggro). There's no way warriors can compete with paladins if they're forced to do deep prot
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>>580928795
God I wish it was me slurping on that 139 year old sphincter.

Please, please, PLEASE tell me you've got a google doc or dropbox for all your work.
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>>580928795
How the fuck are you so good at this, that's amazing
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>>580928795
>me when Forever releases
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>>580928565
I want Ogres. People who want to play as elves never played vanilla and started playing after wrath, or they're bug-eaters.
>inb4 muh tbc belfs
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>wonder why the thread feels slow, unhide stubs
>oh its because i hid the ai faggotry and reply chains all connect back to that should be bannable retardation
ah that explains it
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>>580928657
you WILL fight another 20 man group in full T5 in forever and absolutely destroy them.

1 foreverer can destroy 10000 nillers 1000000 anniversaryers 10 million retailers and 10 billion moppies
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>>580928820
It seems fine, it's probably the most boring healer though
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>>580928820
It looks very good.
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>>580928961
he's just samefagging, not sure what he gets out of it exactly
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>>580928795
>The name Forever actually refers to the fact you'll forever be munching on skelfy buttholes
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>>580928795
God I wish Blue Elves were real so I could dig out a cutie's butthole with my tongue.
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>>580928734
imagine if it's like battle for mount hyjal and each of the 13 bosses has 8 waves of trash lol
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>>580928902
>The shit and the eating part are both optional
Nice strawman
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Nochesty really hates that elf huh
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>>580928820
Depends on if you want the ability to join any group you want or not. Totems really make everyone rock hard
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>>580928904
Can't expect furyidiots to know how to play tbc warrior.
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>>580928875
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/
This has them listed up to level 38.
>>580928795
I-it's kino...
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>>580928640
don't say it like that while posting that image anon i'll cum...
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>>580928961
just some troon whos astroturfing because everyone outside of the thread thinks the blueberries are a retarded addition
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>>580929025
>you'll forever be munching on skelfy buttholes
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>>580929095
i honestly didnt mind them but after seeing you can make them not blue and normal elf colors now I really dont understand the hate
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>beta only goes to level 20
>then after 2 weeks it raises to 30
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>no point to play tbc
>no point to play hc
>no point to play sod
>not touching retail with a ten foot pole
This is about to be the longest 4 days.
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I am NOT going to engage with the camping system for stat buffs and I am NOT going to eat food that gives the experience buff.
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R8 my dwarf plans
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/shaman/60/5002031500100000-055130031005102251-0000000000000000
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>>580929168
>now I really dont understand the hate
It's performative.
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>MRW a slop posting flatchad has singlehandedly elevated the status of sex elves for half of /wowfg/
What a fucking legend.
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Blue Elf women cannot compare to Tall Red Haired Woman with Pale Skin and Freckles who I imagine lurking this thread while she sips seltzer water with her prominent front teeth.

Mwah.
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How can people be satisfied with dual spec. Quad spec is the minimum they should give us.
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we're all rolling horde, right?
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Everybody above 65iq already knows that 99% of the fanbase will pagpig for the Elves the moment they get their hands on it.
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>>580929290
He's too fucking powerful. I'm completely smitten now.
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>>580929330
how can be satisfied with specs at all? just bake it all in and let me loose
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>>580928906
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So when are we getting /wowcg/ back? I don't give a fuck about Retail Forever
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>>580929368
why not both?
I want to play as a Gnome Male Frost Mage and also a Tauren Male Shaman.
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>>580929220
the panel that talked about camping basically said the camping buffs gave you buffs that would be from other classes, so essential its just gay homogenization of buffs like wotlk buffs where you can get the exact same buffs from multiple sources
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>>580929394
You are dumb
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>>580929248
not getting the hit in the resto tree has to be a mistake even if it's 10 points
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>>580929005
>>580929013
is r sham fine on mana? I hate playing the specs that go oom more often.
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>>580929416
Considering this thread is already rotten from the retail trannies, probably soon.
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>>580929416
here's the great thing anon!
you can make your own!
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>>580929386
>no self control
>tranime poster
yeah that tracks
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FINALLY vanilla shaman is playable instead of taking a full 5 seconds to setup every fucking pull
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>>580929416
What's stopping you from making it yourself?
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>>580929368
actually I am rolling alliance for the first time in years because you just know all those retards who refuse to play anything else than ret will all go undead for Forever
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>>580929510
>Poor brown third worlder cope
Is also to be expected your response to me is like the rising sun. Garunteed
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>>580929368
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>>580929456
yeah 5% hit to both melee and spells is pretty insane. even more so if there's dual wielding
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The only thing worse than skyborne is no RP-PVP server, I hope they change that before release
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>>580929559
>projection from an esl turdworlder
me being white has nothing to do with your own cope and terrible grammar retardo
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are undead paladins the new longsword users?
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If we’re making skelves anal sluts I might main one desu
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>>580929559
>Calling anyone a third worlder with that fucking abomination of a sentence
Browns really must hate themselves
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>all thirdies set their preferred language to english because latam groups fail to clear content
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Only trannies are going alliance
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>>580929461
It's hard to say 100% until we have numbers for everything, but just looking at talents it seems like it might be the most mana efficientvout of all 5 healing specs. It also brings Mana Tide which everyone will fucking love you for.
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gnome rogue is gonna go so hard. what's the cost reduction for eureka? unless mutilate is busted I think something close to this spec will be the go to for rogue pvp.
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>>580929386
Now post the Fufu gif of her swishing her tail.
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>>580929706
>Still can't get into groups because their game announces itself in Spanish and you autokick them for not responding to your /whisper in English.
In retail you kick everybody from Quel'thaas and Ragnaros. Brazillains are the shittiest by far
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>>580929707
delusional hordefag
enjoy your 60% blue blood elf population
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>>580929747
The new Rogue capstones are so fucking garbage
Blizzard really needs to redesign this shit
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>>580929747
>taking backstab talents but not improved ambush
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>>580929747
>what's the cost reduction for eureka?
50%. Gonna be fucking nuts for Arcane. 3 fully stacked AB's at 10% increased damage for the price of 1.5.
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>>580929760
Here's her dancing instead!
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I'm not going to farm mats every week and stand around for an hour every night before raid and then spend 3 hours with people I don't know to get bracers with 2% crit and 12 Strength instead of 1% Crit and 24 Strength.

I will not, nobody will. Game will be dead.
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>>580929820
I thought maybe Venom was okay because surely there's cut to the chase (SnD refresh) somewhere in the ass tree
except it isn't
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>>580929090
Still applies
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>>580929747
Why are you going Hemo + Imp Backstab
Also enjoy getting buttfucked by every other Rogue's opener
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>>580929386
>everyone pay pigs for it
>i get to play from selling wow tokens
fair trade for me
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>>580929809
>enjoy your 60% blue blood elf population
Why the fuck are you trying to threaten me with a good time?
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>retail- launching right before the oot remake and gta6
blizztards
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my tbc guild fucking died today
yesterday was cope and then we logged in today to see over 10 officers all quit

gg no re guess we're on to forever
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>>580929368
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>>580929898
I think you fundamentally misunderstand what they are going for in terms of loot, what we will like sees is bracers with +2% damage to beasts vs +2% damage to undead
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>>580929248
Ele tree:
Conc is probably better than convection, but really depends on how bad the mana issues are. Call of flame and imp fire nova will likely be bis for group content. Call of thunder probably isn't worth it. Elemental warding is great for pvp.
Enh tree:
Ancestral knowledge is trash. Earth's grasp can be good while leveling. You definitely want imp ghost wolf. Imp lightning shield at least was very good for leveling, will se how good it is now. Could skip guardian totems while leveling, but good for pvp and pve depending on the group you're in. You 100% want spirit weapons, leveling, pve, pvp, you don't want to skip it. You definitely want toughness if you're going to pvp.
I'd probably do something like this, but it depends on what your focus is:
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/shaman/60/0500331520000000-050032131005112251-0000000000000000
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hyperinflation is hitting mop classic like a motherfucker after literally zero news about it, the token had a hard price cap found yesterday that they quickly removed and its been a straight line up since
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>>580930042
i wonder how many trannies are gonna spam retail- untill they realize nobody outside of 4kek troons is calling it that
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>Indians wake up
>thread flooded with AI thirsting
curious
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>enhance is the gambler pvp spec

okay maybe at a low level but i just watched a high level enhance and its just him using totems to dodge cc, it actually seems pretty hard guys ngl
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>>580930042
I'm not interested in either of those, though. In fact I would have a hard time deciding which of them interests me less because I have zero inclination to play either one of them.
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Retail is fuming too. Imagine CLASSIC GETTING THE ENGINE UPDATE BEFORE RETAIL
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>>580930089
what a picture.

Damnit. Dwarves are kino. Look at that belly.
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>class
Mage
>race
Human
>sex
Yes (male)
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>arcane blast

Am I seriously going to restart all over again with blood elf mage? Yes.
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>>580930063
who the fuck even played TBC to begin with, WoW classic has been dead as fuck since SoD p1 was over. only the most coping addicts wanted to replay TBC
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>>580930242
what's a blood elf?
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Private server sisters...
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new bake
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>>580929593
>yeah 5% hit to both melee and spells is pretty insane. even more so if there's dual wielding
We're not getting DW because they're pandering to the uncs that watched Unbreakable 25 years ago. So getting enough hit won't be an issue.
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SoD P1… Home…
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>>580930320
>>580930320
>>580930320
>>580930320
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>>580929593
>>580929456
does hit chance matter for healing spells? or just attacking
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>>580930281
Because when the addicts willing to play fucking TBC classic are quitting instantly for Forever it's a pretty big indicator.
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>>580930151
Playing enhance well is hard. Running in and hoping for a wf crit isn't hard.
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>>580927426
They're gay looking
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>>580930321
This is wrong though.
It doesn't launch with raids.
Makes it sound like there wont be 40 mans.
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>>580930597
lmfao
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>>580924059
>Have to add nigger to all my conversations and names to make it repellant to normalfags.
And yet you play WoW, the most normalfag of MMOs right alongside FFXIV. Go play some jurassic game like original Everquest to spout slurs as much as you want.
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>>580928360
Every ten years the public swaps with a new generation and the appeals of cheap elf smut is renewed. Right on time to get hooked into WoW all over again.
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>>580929798
But Brazil has their own servers that aren't Rag nor Quel. They get Azralon and Gallywix.



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