What is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
I'm not going to farm mats every week and stand around for an hour every night before raid and then spend 3 hours with people I don't know to get bracers with 1.5% damage to Undead, 1% crit and 12 Strength instead of 1% Crit and 24 Strength.I will not, nobody will. Game will be dead.
HORIZONTALPROGRESSION
during the Blizzcon Opening Ceremony, it was so funny when we'd comment "BRING OUT THE WORLO!!!" as if the Worlo was some sort of beast.
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Deadass never played WoW before, is it worth playing normal WoW at all? Only played FFXIV b4 but this typa thing looks like FFXI right with the horizontal progression? Is it lit?
>>580930397thats literally the concept of wow and everyone already does
Gnome gigastunlock build with 115 base energy, now that orc's stun resist racial was nerfed into the ground.Any point grabbing mutilate? Doesn't seem like you'd ever use it over hemo.
Honestly if I had the choice between worlo forever and sod p1 fresh… I’d roll with sod p1
It’s peak
So uh since pvp is going to be 1 server, does that mean if a 70/30 faction imbalance happens then it's permanently fucked?
Private server sisters... Your death wont be forgotten (it will be forgotten quickly).
They fixed shaman
>>580930397You will if you wanna pump when the undead raids come out
>>580930471every new raid tier is like a 50% dps boost, which is what wow was designed around for 22 yearsForever is missing the core feature WoW was designed around.
>>580930383no not needed for healing it's a dps talent only
>>580930485wait, what about the lore about Undead Priests and Paladins bending the light to their will?
>>580930464Retail combat shits on XIV and makes it feel like you've been palying with retarded grandma's by coparison but everything else XIV mogs.Classic shits on both.
>>580930417and people quit wrath ulduar for hardcorewow players are ADHD manchildren that get distracted by new shiny thing every timeforever's demise will come one day as well. prob by last titan
ass rogue is 430 dps just from poisons at 60 w/ venom
>>580930397id rather stand around in WoW doing nothing than what im doing right now which is sitting around in /wowfg/ doing nothing
>>580930461Prompt her spanking XalatathPrompt her crushing a turtle
>>580930464>is it worth playing normal WoW at all?You mean retail? It's not a bad game per se. The gameplay is good. But there's a cringe ass nigger story and it's incredibly hard to get into the game as a new player.
>>580930532t. started in legion
>>580930485retarded
hope they explore ethereals
>>580930613yeah and i'm telling you i've been through two dozen wow recessions and the entire fucking anni/era quit immediately for forever so take that as you will friend
Explore this bussy
>>580930485Honestly really curious what kind of asspull they are going to create where Sylvanas even lets them join. From her perspective, every undead pally is an Arthas larper and could go schizo at any moment walking through undercity thinking THIS ENTIRE CITY MUST BE PURGED
I want a blue pointy-eared wife
>Kris Zierhut: “Now, one place experience did change is we made a big change to our dungeons. In that the amount of XP you get from killing monsters in dungeons, we brought way down.>“But we made the amount of XP for completing dungeon quests much, much, much higher. So your first run through a dungeon is amazing. You get tons of XP. You get great rewards.>“But going back over and over and over again isn’t the best way to go. You’d be better off going to Shen’dralas or Riverglades or Hyjal instead of grinding a dungeon. We want people in the outdoor world meeting each other.”NO MORE DUNGEON EXP GRINDING NO MORE BOOSTING DOOMERFAGS? WHAT NOW?
>>580930464ff11 mogs all other horizontal but the learning curve and jank is off the chartsforever is already going to have vertical progression it will just be slowit seems fun but you can try it for $15 when it comes around and thats it
>>580930485needs to have this absolute unit in the background
>>580930683If you can have undead holy priests there is no reason to not have undead paladins.
>>580930474>gnomes will exclusively be played by the hardest min-maxxing faggotsActual villains. I can't wait for the entire Horde BG to target any and all gnomes first.
>>580930770>DOOMERFAGS? WHAT NOW?Make up lies, I guess?
>>580930320>$30 per new class/raceif you buy this shit you're the dumbest goy on the planet
>>580930770mfw blizzard are doing it
Can someone explain how "horizontal" progression is any different than vertical?From what I see it's the same vertical progression just simply slower and more spread out.The only reason you'd go to raids is to get better gear in order to go to harder raids to get even better gear.It's irrelevant whether you'd get it from one raid or from different raids. If calcs are going to say that frost gear from one raid is better than set gear from another you ultimately still doing vertical progression.Unless rewards aren't just gear but then it's just retail with mounts, housing, pets and transmog
is the fact that undead can be paladins based or cringe, even if it's lore accurate?https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Sir_Zeliek
>>580930626>gank noobs in hyjal while shootin the shit with the boys>never have to come back here and watch the retoilet tranny pedos ruin yet another generalwill be comfy af
>>580930770Sounds great.
>>580930461requesting a feet sloppa. With painted nails of course.
>gdkp banned>wbuffs only work in the overworld>dungeon boosting heavily nerfedthey're doing everything right besides blue elves
I can't wait to play a sky elf and make her pale!
wow forever is cringekino
>>580930770
>>580930770but you already get more XP on your first run, it's called having 4-5 quests and completing all of them when you are done
>>580930895remove petri
>>580930794
>>580930770Lol this will make bots way more profitable.How will a normal player make money now?
>>580930743"Well, I do have a gathering of Light-wielding zealots already causing me issues, and I still have my old body to find, so why don't you 'helpful' adventurers go deal with the Crusaders and report back once that's handled?"
>>580930895>world buffs is this true? I love world buffs in raids…
>>580930867back in my day, i spent months killing alliance niggers who were trying to get into BRM
>>580930973Is this mount gonna be paid only?
>>580930461This bitch needs a name.
>>580930982What are you on about, retard?
>>580930982>How will a normal player make money now?just like how they still do in era and classic? RMT_____
>>580930959No better feeling than completing a dungeon and having several quests to hand in.
>>580930770>We want people in the outdoor world meeting each otherSo fighting each other for mob tags and telling each other to kys?Can we one day finally admit outdoor leveling is an antisocial meme?
They should have just given Undead a low calorie version of Death Knight where it's just Paladin but with the abilities palette swapped from Holy damage to Shadow
>>580930895blue elf hate is basically confined to reddit right now
>>580930973ai slop...fucking raj go back to your shit hut
>>580930973HOLY SHIT THIS IS KINO>nobody with a fucking brain
can someone explain why holy light damaged undead units in warcraft 3, but that mechanic will not carry over to warcraft forever?
>>580930830nowrong retardpriests channel the light, paladins infuse it through their bodiesundead paladins is actual worse lore than fucking vulpera
>>580931028No, its the racial paladin mount for undead
>>580931028>slop retards have literally zero idea how the game fucking worksYes. It's shop only, Anon.
>>580930895Paid races really aren't that big a deal if it means we avoid full price drops and its just a fee + cosmetics/races.Would you pay 30$ for Ogres/Kobolds?
>>580931120sucks to be you i guessbecause that shit is coming LOL!
>>580931078They want to foster social interactions in Forever and the only way to do that and have it be true to 'nilla is to also foster the negative social interactions. it's a key part of the classic experience
>>580930973holy giga based
>>580931028it's the base UD paladin mount
just thinking about it today, I'm already burned out of WoW: forever.
Alright mother fuckers. Let's get this started. What are you rolling? State your Race, Class and Spec that you'll be choosing.Let's see what we've got going on here.>Orc>Shaman>Enhanced&>Troll>Priest>ShadowI'm dead set on both of these. Not sure which one I'll roll first. I really really REALLY want to play both.For my Enh Shaman, I am leaning more towards dipping into the Resto side instead of the traditionally picked Ele secondary. I just value the insane sustain and hit chance offered there more so than the raw damage of the Ele tree.
>>580931125>>580931163Im sorry I just realized its supposed to be the charger
>no mention of any world pvp, dynamic spawning events or even new rep grinds in the worldreally doing alot to make the world the main draw of vanilla eh blizzard>you will spam BGs while raidlogging and enjoy it
>>580931110>holy magic>dark magic>they got better>every paladin and priest is in constant pain and risk of dying when they wield too much lighttake yur pick
>>580931110Surely you can think of a reason
What if there was a faster way to get into Forever
>>580930474>now that orc's stun resist racial was nerfed into the ground.Always having -20% stun duration is still extremely fucking strong. It's made them a top tier pvp race on retail for like.... ever. While their vanilla version of 25% chance to resist was obviously broken as fuck, people are highly underestimating how strong this retail version of the racial is. They can also remove curses now just to fuck over warlocks.Gnome racials are clearly fucking bonkers though. Every ally tryhard will pick one.
btw mage aoe slow is nerfed to shit, so even at max level aoe grinding for gold will be dogshit. GET FUCKED MAGES.
>>580931241undead paladin and blue elf druid
>Remember when we made those petition forms to Blizzard to relaunch Classic we feared we might be starting a chain reaction that would destroy the entire vanilla world>I remember it well, what of it?>I believe we did
>>580931079>palette swapped from Holy damage to ShadowThat's not a fucking palette swap. It's a meaningful change in function.
>>580930464>this faggot is herefuck off back to your containment thread
>>580931304there is no classic wow in heaven
>>580931290they made a new BG and said they're revamping the pvp system to not require 5 months to hit HWLnothing else needs to be changed for classic.
Reminder that female undead priest is BiS
They're gonna add dailies for rep factions as a way to make gold, right? I don't want to have to do retarded gold farms. I absolutely hated doing DM Tribute runs on my hunter.
>>580930770this is terrible. Running dungeons with people is better social interaction than griefing each other by stealing mobs and quest spawns.
>>580931168blud lookin like he about to announce cheeseburgers forever
>>580931319Classic isn't going anywhere.Forever is literally designed for people who hate Classic and want something faster and less grindy.More options is always better, literally 3 awesome versions of the game to play right now - one for every taste.
>>580931241Undead Rogue.PvPGanking every single female avatar untill they log off and /wave at males.
>>580931437cry about it.
>>580931387>faggots like that make the best bottom bitches>they will be rolling on forever for me to dick downnah let them come
>>580931241Troll male combat rogueWhy? Because it looks coolOr maybe troll male affliction warlock, never played a caster before, but it's for a reason, I love spamming qeqeqeqe while abilities go off... Hmmmmm....Was set on shaman until I saw Ele has lava burst, and that Enha tank doesn't seem viable outside of low level dungeons
i don't really like this.if i was doing SM on ally or deadmines on horde or something, we'd just do it like 3 or 4 times in a row since we already made the journey out there. plus, i'd figure this would make it harder for people to find groups for dungeons. if people normally might be willing to do like, 2 or 3 total runs of a dungeon, now they'd be willing to do it literally once. for example, maybe i'm questing in the barrens and i've already done WC. and i see some guy in chat LF1M WC, and he's been asking for 5 minutes. fuck it, yeah i'll go do WC again, i'm tired of collecting zhevra hooves.tbdesu i don't give a fuck about boosting. if you want to follow a level 60 paladin around while he pulls the entirety of sm cath-- by all means.
>>580931241>Undead>Paladin>Ret>Orc>Warlock>Affliction unless it sucks ass then we're back to destro
>I haven't seen a single nigger yet in ForeverIt's already 10/10 for me
>>580931385>it's not X it's Yhello anonGPT
Why no undead hunter?
>>580931434Imagine this cutie buffing you with Fortitude as you pass each other on the road to Hillsbrad.
>>580931241>RaceSex elf>SexSee above>ClassShaman or Druid >SpecElemental or Feral>ProfessionsHerbalism and Alchemy >CockFucking erect
580931440i can only imagine how lonely this dude is to sit in a thread for HOURS posting this slime just to bait some random person on an anonymous imageboard into replyingyou genuinely must be the loneliest person on the planet
>erm streamers ruined the launch of classic by dungeon boosting to max!!!!>the leveling journey is what matters>*blizzard nerfs dungeon farming into the ground*>erm you have to let me dungeon spam to max level?????>i dont want to quest!!!!!!!!!
>>580931590based coombrain
>>580931168>Paid races really aren't that big a deal if it means we avoid full price drops and its just a fee + cosmetics/races.At some point poorfags need to understand that Blizzard are not running a charity. It's a business, they're not just going to give you free content forever.
>>580930830anything but a human paladin is retarded, because paladins were northshire clerics that trained in combat after the first war
>>580931501>i don't really like this.I think it's good that blizzard is moving in the direction of punishing players who try to speedrun everything like they hate the game and just want it to be over as quickly as possible.
>>580931110retard you obviously didn't watch the blizzcon streams. They said the undead paladins still take damage from the light, they just tank that shit like chads
quest log fits 40 quests now btw. instead of 25. based. i had to abandon quests so many times
>>580931241I'm still deciding. But the character list I got so far;Alliance:Sky Elf Male Arcane MageNight Elf Male Restoration DruidGnome Male Frost MageHorde:Tauren Male Restoration ShamanTroll Male Elemental ShamanAnd I need to decide a tank. Probably Human Male Protection Warrior or Dwarf Male Protection Warrior.
>>580931168unless its pandaren nope
>>580931501Dungeons will be far less relevant with all the new blues they are adding to quests
>>580931437there's no point trying to convince themthe classic communtiy is extremely dishonest and love to parrot their shared delusions to each otherforever is the pinnacle of it. where the devs will say things like>"expertise has been removed">crowd cheers>10 minutes later>"we're adding new stats! one of them, where you can, for the first time, reduce your chance to be dodged or parried!">crowd cheersjust unbelievable. cult like if you ask me
>>580931772Dungeons are going to still be good when tagging mobs is an issue
>>580931712>Sky Elf Maleare you braindead or something? the only reason to pick that race is you get to look pretty and cute, and then you disable even that feature.
>>580931241Dwarf Shaman ElementalGnome Warrior or PriestHuman Paladin Shockadin
>>580931319dude we spent 2 years replaying vanilla and turns out it really wasnt that special and got completely meta stomped and its glaring flaws became obvious very quickly. the only reason we looked fondly back at it is rose tinted glasses because our society wasnt falling apart back then
>>580931501A big appeal of dungeon spam was that it's faster than running between zones every other level because the pacing in Vanilla is so fucking ass that you have entire questlines unfinished and absurd level gaps with no quests like the 20s and 30s for Horde outside of Barrens. Now that they're adding more quests it's basically a non-issue
>>580931387Yawn
Big question: will you be able to mail things between horde and alliance characters?
>>580930861The gist of the on-paper design would be:Vertical progression rewards power that makes ALL previous content easier to complete. Eventually becoming more powerful than the content allows the player to adjust their mentality of "I do [content] to gain power," to something else, such as "I do [content] to parse," or "I do [content] to do activities with my friend group," or "I do [content] in exchange for being helped with [other content] later."Horizontal progression's core different, again on-paper, would be that clearing [content A] specifically rewards power that makes [content A] easier to complete. [Content B/C/D/E/F/etc] also exist with their own specific power rewards, maybe this is "While in [content B], have +20%Haste," or "While in [content C], deal +25%dmg against Light-based enemies." Rather than one strongest [content] to gain the biggest power reward in the form of the biggest ilvl/Stats, horizontal progression ideally creates several on-par / comparable end-game [content]s that each give their own forms of power rewards. This means that there is more end-game raids/etc to do as your activity while playing WoW:Forever as an end-game player, rather than having the single goal of "become strong enough to clear Naxx."Fundamentally, it boils down to the mentality being "Do WoW raiding content to be doing WoW raiding with friends/guild/community, while getting stronger," instead of "Get stronger in order to do WoW raiding content and beat it / win the game."
>>580931241>For my Enh Shaman, I am leaning more towards dipping into the Resto side instead of the traditionally picked Ele secondary. I just value the insane sustain and hit chance offered there more so than the raw damage of the Ele tree.But it feels like such a fucking cuck move to go sub resto. It hurts. >>580931440>Forever is literally designed for people who hate Classic and want something faster and less grindy.No it's for people who have played vanilla to death and want something similar, but new.
>>580931843You can, but you will be impaled on spikes in Orgrimmar if you are caught.
>>580931843of course not. that was something done way further along in retail
>>580931309Anon, improved Blizzard isn't the only slow mages have...Cone of Cold always was their main AoE control spell and it's completely unnerfed. This will only filter the shitter mages.
>>580931837Avatar fagging in WoW generals will catch you a vacation btw we don't play that tranny shit here.
>“One really exciting thing we did with raid drops is we added chase drops to every boss’s loot table. So items that have a lower than normal drop chance, but are very, very strong items. If you play Burning Crusade, you think about the Dragonspine Trophy. Super popular.>“Everybody would go back to Gruul, all of Burning Crusade, hoping to get it. Every boss has a Dragonspine Trophy equivalent item on them, or two, or three. So there’s a reason to keep going back. They’re not obsolete.So no, old raids won't be obsolete further down the line after much more content gets released. Which is great news for alts and people starting late.
>>580931241Undead RogueUndead WarlockUndead Paladin
>>580930657
>>580931983what /wowfg/ has done to /wowg/ wowcg was absolutely obliterated and thus has no ass to be slapped
>>5809318301.13 with layering isn’t vanilla
>>580931935Then why would anyone make a horde and alliance character on the same account if they're gonna be starting over from scratch and can't even mail gold?
>>580931942There's only two types of classic players. People who enjoy raiding gruul each week for DST and people who are honest
>>580931241Male troll warlock, Raz'jin Windtaker, with herbalism + alchemy because stereotypes / drugging farstriders in Amani territory in order to kidnap them. Demolock seems the more fun gameplay to level with, but Affliction sounds more thematically fitting for preying on elves.Having Skelves and their buttholes in the Horde will be a strange fever dream.100% going into an RP server.
>>580931983
Are the racial totem appearances from wotlk in? Please tell me they're in
>>580931983Hot
>>580931941>if this were true all the faggotry in all the generals would stopsadly not the case
>>580932067to incentivize you to try the other factions content. you're not getting everything all at once retail style.
>>580932116They'd have to be, what would Dwarves use otherwise if Draenei don't even exist
>>580931856>But it feels like such a fucking cuck move to go sub resto. It hurts.I don't think one side is clearly better than the other. I had a difficult time choosing between Ele and Resto sub. In fact, I was originally going to the Ele sub route, I only just decided on the Resto path.I think it's hard to go wrong either way but I just don't want to worry about sustain issues. If I get to a point where sustain is no longer an issue I'm hopping right back over to Ele probably, although leaving the 5% hit behind will suck but it is what it is.
>>580932074Foreverbros, the retairds suddenly want our sex elves for themselves. They really have lost.
>>580931834i just like dungeons. bc of nostalgia. i've spent so much fucking time in the deadmines.>you there, check out that noise!
>The private server troons got tired of getting humiliated here and started making /v/ threads with their discord to cry again.
>When we need to do that world refresh around you, a new UI will pop up and give you a warning: 'In 3:00, 2:59, 2:58, etc., we will refresh the world around you; get somewhere safe,' and there's a button you can push to say, 'Okay, I'm somewhere safe, this is good, go ahead and move me now.layering warning when the game needs to layer you
elves? nah
like what has GW2 has nice
>>580932209They are correct. They belong there, not in classic +>muh this isn’t classic plusHolly literally said on stage this is classic plus
>>580930657crush it with love
>>580931623>play the game YOUR way>no not THAT way!!!
>>580931815It's a race with heavy esoteric symbolism, and blood elf male models look good.
>>580932116What race has the best looking totems?
>>580932146Say what you will but WoW generals are generally good at not putting up with avatar faggotry. It's just people fail to utilize the tools to stop it and then people think it's okay. Before long the general is overrun.
>>580932198Yeah nah I agree. I don't think the 5% hit will matter much at max level though.
>>580932246the true 2026 gamer experience is having a forced layering popup and a forced oled refresh popup at the same time
Apparently trolls are really good in PvP now? Their 10% in combat regen is supposed to be really? Especially if you are a high hp class like warlock or warrior?
>>580932116They are. And I really fucking want to see Skyborne totems.
>>580932295>Skelves are the biggest sign of a tourist larper>Tranny from /wowg/ is spamming AI skelf shitKek
>>580932416Wait none of the fucking streamers went Skyborne Shaman and none placed the damn Totems? What the FUCK?
>>580932187>>580932416Dwarf Shamans were originally added in Cata, not Wotlk, so that's why I'm wondering if they're doing it for the other races or only for dwarf like they were added only for draenei in tbc
>>580932345>WoW generals are generally good at not putting up with avatar faggotrysince fucking when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GOMj1_EVNQ>I don't like classic>I like retail but don't play it>I'd rather play Fellowship>I'm here at Blizzcon for WoW btwMax is the biggest faggot imaginable
>>580932295It is Classic+. As in "Classic plus new features". Seems to me that an entirely new race rooted in old lore fits that definition perfectly. Sex elves are here to stay, anon. Play era.
>>580932521His entire career hinges on the success of retail bro
>>580932345hit or miss honestly and most dont even get warnings for itnever mind the fact some ritual post as a glorified avatarfag replacementor use the same exact reaction imagesgranted i can filter those easily
>>580932484I saw Guzu play enh shaman for a bit, was pumping, but he was a smelly orc. Most of the strimmers just play woyer, paladin and druid.
>>580931942>we've added chase items to every raid boss, because everyone's favorite part of classic was running BRD 100 times to get HoJlmao
>>580932320What model are you using to gen?
>>580932560but worlo warca forvo race to world first!
>>580932484I fucking tried to get a couple of them to do it but NOPE. >>580932507They would just use the generic Classic totem models that the other 3 Shaman had if that were the case. It's not like those are Horde themed and they would make far more sense for Dwarf than Draenei totems would.
>pvp trinkets will remove all CC, no class specific pvp trinkets>also ranks still in play>entry level pvp gear costs honor points and marks>you have to grind rank and then buy a token to upgrade your gear to epic
>>580932560a game he does not play
>>580932519Fuck off tourist you won't muddy the waters.
good changes> world buffs disabled in raids> permanent level 60 cap> no flying> no level scaling> reworked talent trees> more viable specs> reworked racials> more race/class combinations> 1,000+ new quests> new and expanded zones> nine new dungeons> new 10, 20 and 40-player raids> improved dungeon loot> improved quest rewards> improved world-drop epics> better hybrid itemization> weapon skill retained> 600+ new profession recipes> new camping system> legacy progression system> tbc-style mount training> realmless infrastructure> hardcore death transfers> optional transmog> optional quest helper> optional hd models> improved classic graphics> new battlegrounds> alternate warcraft timelinebad changes> skyborne race
What is the greatest threat to the longevity of WoW: Forever?
>>580932645>I fucking tried to get a couple of them to do it but NOPE.Streamers have an aversion to playing shaman. I think it's because it has too many buttons.
classic+ just wont work okay chdus?blizzard can't add things I dont like!! i hate it!!
>>580932626Sorry bro that position has been filled
>>580932521Max, and by extension raid addict players like him, are the main culprit for why retail ended up the way it did. They don't give a fuck about anything except raiding, and the top guilds literally have Blizzard by the ear. It took over 20 years for them to wake the fuck up and start catering to people who actually enjoy WoW and aren't just raidloggers or antisocial queers.
>>580932521Come on anon, I don't disagree with your greater point but we all know that the Skyborne lore is a total asspull they made up so they can justify charging $30.
>>580932741horizontal progression won't work
trolls, the fuck are these?
>>580932667Doesn't change what I said
>>580930320How is WC3 reforged and the new xpac? I might get the heroic edition for skyborne as it comes with that and 30 days of game time and beta.
>>580932790fetishes
>>580931852>clearing [content A] specifically rewards power that makes [content A] easier to completeSo you're saying that I have to do naxx in order to get frost resist gear in order to do naxx faster in order to what? wtf would even be the point of that?
>>580932790their wc3 totems?
>>580932790totems, it appears. look pretty cool imo.
>>580932719Nigger I've been here for longer than you've been sapient, avatar/namefags have always been an enduring plague
>>580932790Better than the hideous vanilla totems is what they are. By a lot.
>>580932484>>580932416Sorry for the low quality screenshot but this is as best as it's going to get sadly.
>>580931501does this mean they are removing the anti-boost mechanics that have been fucking up tbc
>>580930516But can you place all 4 totems at once?
>>580932790sky elf totems will be kino. You will have to roll sky elf for good totems.
the skyborne are good because the women make my dick hard
>>580932790SOVL
>Horde not allowed in DalaranTHE PURGE WORKED, UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULEGET FUCKED NOSHOES
>>580932585no one forces you to do that little retard, stop being a minmaxer in a rat race. just dont get it and stop caring what your dps is on the meter.
>>580932790Troll totems are literally the best totems so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>580931856you WILL twist windfury and grace of airyou WILL party twist to give mages and healers mana tide totem
>>580932787yeah thats why they arent doing it and lying straight faced on camera so the chuddites buy into the experience until they put too much time into itwhy do you think they arent allowing raids or anything past 30 with the betathey already admitted raids will be vertical progression kek
>>580932873Hmm. Interesting.I will have to ponder on how I feel about these for a minute.
>mfw gonnn get another chance to camp neets untill they get heart attacks from anger againWoW classic... home...I can't wait to neckstomp fat alliance piggies
>>580932875YesBro they FIXED shaman. No more 5 seconds of setup autism every pull
>>580930404Hmmm. I think there's a cleaner way of doing this. Doing more damage to specific types of enemy is fine, but I think swapping gear every time you change zones would get annoying as hell.
>>580933035>she doesn't know that pve servers existwhy would a neet play on a pvp server
>>580932873Ah fuck, I'm actually pretty disappointed with those. I was hoping they would look more like the Skywall pillars or be something lithe and elvish with feathers. Oh well, I can tolerate them.
>>580930770Would be nice if not for the retail style design of the new dungeons where there's trash packs fucking everywhere. Now it's going to feel like even more of a slough to get through them when you're barely getting any exp to boot.
>>580932790>noshoe nigger totems are just sticks with shoddy wooden masks on them
hopefully mana regen isnt as dogshit in forever as it is in classic. fucking hate drinking between every fucking mob
i fucking HATE the orc totemsswhy do they have to be the best shaman race by a country mile? kys blizzard, im so upset.
>>580932992>you WILL twist windfury and grace of airtotem twisting is gone, sweaty :^) wf doesn't persist after the totem is gone.
>>580931437>Running dungeons with people is better social interactionsaid nobody ever
>>580931110same reason paladins don't have in-combat mass resurrection anymore
>NO homogenization>Remove every single buff/debuff unique to specs so that they all just deal damagealright
>>580930574Undead light priests have been canon in retail since Legion at the very least.
>>580932526>Seems to me that an entirely new race rooted in old loreFind 1 pre-TBC reference of “skyborne elves”
Yeah you guys are retarded schizophrenic and losers.
>>580932667yeah, he's a logistics coordinator, not a """gamer"""he's essentially bill lumbergh from office space
>>580933079they think they're good at pvp and want to camp casuals and dad gamersso i stomp their neet necks in untill they make the alt to send death threats and doxx threats to me on then I send them the epic screencaps of their dead bodies posted on wowf/g
>>580932836if you think about it too hard it's the thing that makes you quit wow.yeah. you are doing naxx to make it so you can do naxx faster. that's also why you did the previous tiers and also the dungeons. and now you're here. you cleared naxx. it's over. this is the peak of the mountain.
>>580933120all casters get 30% mana regen in combat talents you can get easy access tomany specs also got mana reductions to spellsnot even sure how ranked spells are gonna work but they could also reduce those costs tooitem stats are also way higher in forever than vanilla which means way more spiritaka way more mp5 in and out of combat
>>580933120it will be absolutely miserable for 20 levels so have fun tourist
>>580930404LF3M DPS AZSHARA GROTTOMUST HAVE FULL NAGABANE SET AND SEASPEAKER NECK!!
>>580932790>a twig or two, some string and some lame ass wooden mask>people are saying these are the best totemsreally niggas?
>>580933036The 2 second cast is ass though. But at least we get totemic projection.
>>580933120Legacy perks seem to help a lot with that, plus they buffed Spirit or something like that
There's an entire thread on /v/ getting spammed by a discord ran by ex-turtle wow guild and they're fucking PISSSSSSED
>>580932382no it sucks
>>580933120They reworked all the gear stats and casters got improved immensely. Way more int, spirit, and mp5 are gonna be on the gear you find.
>>580933190There are none. The race itself is made up for Forever. The lore in which it is rooted, however, is old stuff. That's a perfectly fine way to create a new race in my book.
>>580933120imagine getting filtered by a blue bar
>>580932948imagine the horde melty on the forums over this once beta launchesgonna be glorious kek
>>580932854>I've been here longer than youAnd you don't utilize the tools to self-regulate your own general? Sad.
>>580933324lmfao love to see it
>>580933319>legacy perks have no effect in combat!>high alert
>>580933319do you think they'll let you respec these? surely, right?
Damn. I'm gonna miss making fun of vanilla paladins, it was fun while it lasted (20 years)
>>580933324why dont you link it next time bloody benchod
>>5809333191% mana over 10 seconds... oh boy...
>>580933354>The lore about high elves is now pretext for avatar the last airbenderAs I said, belongs in retoilet
>>580933487you can still make fun of prot
How will Enhance / Ele be in PvP in this?
>>580931110Undead priests that used the light in the lore already were described as feeling pain all the time when wielding the light. Paladins will just hurt more.
>>580933479Considering they're supposed to be unintrusive and optional, yeah i would imagine it's free or easy respec, they're not real talents after all>>580933515way bigger difference than you'd think, even 1% mana over 10sec is increasing your MP5 ticks by a lot
>>580933319I really don't like this. It's going to induce constant switching to minmax unless they let you have everything, which I'm pretty sure they said they won't
>>580933354I can’t find any old lore about millions of high elf exiles fucking off to an island in the sky
They're putting them in classic too? What is blizzards FUCKING problem
>>580933120you will drink the water and you will be happy.
>>580933608bro haven't you read all the detailed guides out ?
>>580931241Undead discipline priest.
>>580933120Pretty much every caster has talents that gives them mana regen or massively reduces mana costs, which is great. Even at 60, casters go oom so fucking fast it's ridiculous. I also hope this means healers won't have to downrank spells anymore.
>>580933608enha with improved stormstrike will shit on meleesdoubt they have any spec that can go up against spriest or warlock though
>>580933667heh heh ya classicers thought you could get away heh heh
they could've made the elves green, replaced the owl and feather motifs with snakes and scales, and made up some shit about them being restored naga and 95% of these complaints wouldn't exist. instead they decided to asspull some shit from a D&D 3.5 splatbook
>she had heard the rumors of elf-hating chuds in the sewers
>>580933608Enhance will be like it always is. Kited to death most of the time. Not getting any procs most of the time. Once in a while you'll absolutely obliterate some nigger. Ele will probably be good. I'm going enhance because I'm a straight, white male.
>>580933548This isn't vanilla, anon. It's Classic+. Play era.
>>580933667vishnu allah
>>580933479Seems that way from the blizzcon demo.
>>580933639i think they said you get 16 points max and there are like 66 total upgrades available
>>580933319>stealthily adds Dailies without anyone noticing:^)
>guys check out this shit ai slop i just made
>>580933608Elemental no longer has EM unless it's a baseline thing at higher levels. So it isn't quite as much of a guaranteed nuke machine every few minutes.But it has fucking Lava Burst so who cares?
>>580930982selling mogs
>>580933851>300 days to max out a new skill without spending any money
>>580933851vanilla never had a profession ability with a cooldown
>>580933775Noooo, we wanted classic+, not heckin CHANGES!!!
>no playable draeneibut I love female (non futa) spacegoats so much bros:'(
i want to play undead lock but troll and orc have so much better racials
>>580933720Enha is actually one of the few scary matchups for a DoT clothie due to their purge, slow, grounding and Tremor totem.Its not warrior vs mage levels of bad matchup
>>580933431Your point was about stopping it, not self-regulation. Don't try to move the goalpost now.
>>580933319>guys how do we add qol things without pissing off the chuds>make it a pseduo-choice and long-term grind that requires a sunk cost fallacy so they feel its okdamn they really know their unc audience
>>580933949oh my god no one cares
>>580931501Just make new quests that ask you to come back to the old dungeons with some changes on the mechanics/power of the encounters. Have some minor "hard modes" when you trigger a questline.
>>580933716And you faggots still think this shit is classic and not just retail lmao.
>>580933640Play era.
>>580933949Sex elves are an alright alternative
>We want to keep the philsophy if every fight matters. They take time to fight. It takes 15 seconds to kill one mob.>now here's some steamrolling OP gear you start getting at level 10>here's a buff from camping>here's another buff from food
Pallybros how am I going to tab out and goon while leveling now that I have to holy strike every 6 seconds? This is fucking dogshit
>>580934013>I'm gayWe can tell.
friend wants me to go ally, what race should i make my roguekinda feeling dwarf idk
>>580933487reminds me. are they gonna still make it where you have to be level 40 to wear plate ?
>>580934045This is going to be SoD all over again. They don't know how to do anything else
>>580933256Feel free to share what the actual best totems are then.
>>580934083Sex elf
>>580933667fucking blue elves! not in the spirit of classic this is retail- turtle was better
>>580934083You have to go gnome. If an alliance race can go gnome, they should go gnome.
>>580933120skill issue
>>580934083fem skelf
>>580934045Realistically speaking, it's going to take mostly the same amount of time to kill things. The main difference will be reduced downtime between pulls, which is good because you actually get to play the fucking game
>>580933949>fag has to call attention to futa>actual straights dont have to mention thiswhy are you larping you weirdojust own up to being a fag
>>580933851Dailies exist Winterspring and others already exist
>>580934130>>580934176i could but i dont like playing as a girl bros maybe i make the male and rp as a griffith twink
>>580934050you still can its even easier now actually buffs last longer and seals too
>>580934037based small tiddy big ass skelf enjoyer. if only there were ass sliders in game...
>>580933851that is OP
>>580934212I do this anytime I mention space goats because I know someone is going to bring up futa. I'm trying to take back space goats for normal straight men
>>580934206Nooooooooooooo drinking after every single mob is what made vanilla good! Being able to kill more than one mob before stopping is retail-
>>580934206NTA but my biggest complaint of era is the amount of downtime there ismy biggest complaint of sod was things died way too fastseems they heard that from many players and just combined the two which i think is the right move
>>580934330this but unironically
>noobs try retail for free which maxes out at level 20 still for some reason>"this sucks and is confusing", uninstalls>never tries WoWFion? holly? your response?
>>580933608Stormstrike now resets every time you dodge or parry so you will roflstomp any melee matchup.
>>580933319>talents gained earlierTWINKS WE ARE SO BACK
>3 or 4 years down the road>Blizz is running out of ideas>they add Outland and Northrend, but without raising the level cap and re-tune all of the content to level 60Would you accept it?
>>580934330literally a skill issue unless you're a mage
>>580934298you have to be retarded
whats the best path for leveling warrior anyway
>>580934396It'll get nerfed. Enhance shamans aren't allowed to have anything good.
reeeee not these changes
>>580934431t. never leveled a tradeskill
>>580934418it's not even a question, that's a given
>>580934037sick of elf shit
>>580934330unironically this. you will slow down and enjoy the world zoomer
>>580934418They will absolutely add Outland eventually no matter what.
>>580934439Just play fury.Victory rush and the meta perk that heals you every time you kill a mob will be enough to sustain
>>580934026>ermmmm akshually being forced to never use your max rank spells is good!>if it's not shit, it's not classic!Rope, tranny.
>>580934418outland and northrend wouldnt be a problem if they were reimaged to be classic-like but it would be shit if they were just ported from the expansions is arthas just meant to be off screen forever
>>580934347idk tho, they power on gear starting at level 10 looks like mobs will be one shot. Not really a down time enhancement other than you didn't have to expend much resources to one shot the mob.
>>580933983Alright I fucked up. You win.. this time.
>>580934390they're going to be directing new players to this and not retail
>>580934298I don't fucking care if it's OP. FUCK spending hours running in circles around burning steppes to farm thorium veins while i get camped by some level 60 undead rogue NIGGER
>>580932774it doesnt matter what race they chose they would still be charging for it
Male Human Rogue
>>580934496love elf shit
>>580934459>one trade level per day only unlocked after a billion alt points in that tree is opyou fucking nigger tourists out yourselves
dude it's almost like theres a beta to test shit out and make balance changes before the thing actually comes out
AAAIIIEEEE I don’t know what to playLeaning:>Male Nelf Druid (Resto, main)and>Fem Nelf Priest (Disc, alt)
>>580934617yeah im the tourist lmaoenjoy the handouts
>>580934620a beta that ends 2 weeks before the game comes out is not a beta
>>580932320I have to go to bed, please upload all of your gens to a catbox album.
>>580934613draenei (non futa) are better tho bro
>>580934439similar to classic. looking at the talents it'll be 5 points into cruelty > arms until late 40searly50s when victory rush and bloodthirst sustain keep you chaining mobs
They should reward raid epics for legacy accomplishments.
i didn't play any classic but mop, i've mained dk since wrathwhat should i play for forever
>Bored>See a vid titled best races for each class>Entire video is just "gnome for alliance, orc for horde"WOOOOOOOOW great fucking balance there. I'm glad we went back and balanced all the racials!
>>580934431The last 10ish points of certain professions can be extremely expensive to finish out. This is crazy helpful.
If you could change 1 thing about wow4ever what would it be
>>580934620there is no beta feedback they can receive that will make them replace deviantart elves with lore friendly versions
>he plays for meta not funno soul
>>580934753no petris
>>580934639why play priest when pinkniggers are getting aoe healing
>>580934418My thoughts were that they'll add expansion zones but the levels will be re-tuned. Outlands is 30-45, northrend is 45-60, etc. But the raids and some dungeons are kept at 60. That being said, they're going to stick to Azeroth for a while.
What the ACTUAL FUCK happened here?
>>580933319More shit that totally fucks just Rogues>stealth detection for everybody>class abilities that grant party buff get extended (Rogues have zero of these)
>>580934794does holy priest even get circle of healing?
>>580934026>use [x] rank that matches your current fight lengths / mp5>never use [y] except in easy content or unique situationsyeah that sure is exciting anon
>>580934753The players
>>580934418Theyd be retarded to not add northrend tuned to vanilla (WITH VANILLA TEXTURES) down the line. its literally half of WC3. shouldnt include killing the LK thoughin fact, i think wow forever would be best served if they actively avoid killing warcraft related heroes, kel thuzad is probably hard to avoid but Kael Thas Illidan Arthas etc should be avoided. they SHOULD keep the player character as a permanent RPG adventurer, not some hero/champion
>>580934753Pandas
>>580934750there are completely new recipes and no one knows anything about profession grinding, but even then the last levels still didn't take you over a day to finish
>>580934830new 7mil gold mount
>>580934732>WOOOOOOOOW great fucking balance there. I'm glad we went back and balanced all the racials!retoilet andy immediately goes to youtube for a video to tell him how to play. can't you think for yourself? gnomes are busted but everyone else on both sides is more than good enough. trolls look extra strong too
>>580931110>he thinks modern retoilet Blizz developers have ever played the wc3 campaign
>>580934830quitting classic so cashing their gold out for playtime? idk
>>580934732Game isn't our yet. Give feedback during the beta.Gnome should be nerfed. Sky Elf should be buffed.Fuck I'm gonna miss my Arcane Torrent, I loved that ability...
>>580934753i'd rather dks or ogres than blue elves
Guys, will Forever fix the issue of raiding feeling like a job?
>>580934753add pandas
>>580934872>Northrend but arthas happens to be on vacation>gives them an excuse to sell another WC3 fanfic expansion as wellI can see it desu
>>580934593PvEbab server is that way<<<
>undead male paladin (holy ofc)>female night elf priest>orc WOYER>male human warlock
>>580934685https://files.catbox.moe/vsq4yi.zip
What dumb challenge should I do on my first character? I'm thinking pure arms warrior build
>>580934732i hate gnome so much you have no ideawhy did they have to be given the most broken racial skills of all time? i dont want to play some tiny annoying little shit
I've always though Shadowform looked really cool but have never played a Spriest. How will they be in this? Can theey hold their own in PvP?
>>580934841nope just pom
>>580934975Yes, everyone is going to be overgeared so raids will become trivial as fuck
>>5809349601% of the player base, at most, will even touch ogres, unless you give them pally.
>>580934418>OutlandNo>NorthrendA continent on Azeroth so I don't see the issue.
Men who play Undead have the fattest cocks
>Aggrend cheekily teased ogres coming to the hordeWhat will alliance get? Furbolgs? I'd be a bear man.
>>580935054They look very strong if talents dont change
>>580934975if they want it to succeed without lfr / rdf 80% of raids need to be pugable so retards can clearthey surely are not retarded enough to pull a wildstar
>>580934975World buffs don't function in raids so you won't have to do the chore of collecting those ever again.
>>580935019please post her getting blacked already
>>580933515Its more than you deserve
Are there going to be WoW Forever forums or are we just going to keep using the same current ones?
>>580935075up their ass, yes
>>580935019Thanks, when you're done genning for the day/night as well please.
>>580934529i didn't look into meta perks. you start with any?
>>580935092>What will alliance get? Another elf reskin/recolor and people will clap, as they always do
>>580935113Thank christ to that. World buffs are way too cringe.
>People here hate the fuck out of blue elves>Suddenly gets announced that Chris Metzen made them>People here suddenly love themWhy though
>>580933036What site is this, I haven't seen anyone show info on Call of the Ancestors yet
>>580932339no it isn't, it's an incredibly commercial feel that caters to xuanhuan sensibilities, not esotericism. and male belfs look better than this so that's an irrelevant tangent
>>580935132anon they already added them the second they announced it...
>>580935092Brown Elves (LatinX)
>>580934982they dont even have to put Arthas on vacation, no one knows he exists. Icecrown could just be completely inaccessible or something due to either too many undead or straight up frozen wasteland completely inhospitable. supply trains are impossible to run etc.
>>580933319Legacy perks just seem like heirlooms, but significantly less game-breaking. Instead of>permanently having level-appropriate blue-equivalents>never needing to replace gear>+% bonus XPLegacy perks are almost all quality of life features that make leveling easier, but without giving you an unfair advantage over other players.I think the best ones are>Thrill of Adventure5% Health and Mana after every single kill is too strong. It's going to give you a lot of free sustainability while leveling, to the point that some classes won't need food or water at all. I expect this to be nerfed due to the beta.>TalentedGaining access to talent power spikes up to 5 levels early is not only strong, but also feels satisfying. I expect a lot of people to pick this one.>Well RestedGood for alt-aholics.>Frequent FlierGood because it's a lot of passive, free gold for only one point.They definitely need to be slightly toned down.
>>580934942>He thinks giving feedback actually does anything
>>580935132who the fk uses the official wow forums in 2026? they're almost as dead as mmo champion forums
HUMANMALEWARRIOR
>>580934839Rogues will be the most gimped class.
>>580935061>>580935113>>580935109i was more thinking about the thing where nobody in a guild cares about or talks to anyone else in the guild or does any other activity other than raiding together
>LETS MAKE CLOUD ELVES NEVER MENTIONED IN THE LORE BEFORE AND BUILD THEM A DISNEY PIXAR SKY CITY INSTEAD OF NAGAS/MURLOS OR HIGH ELVES / FORSAKEN ELVES OR HIGH ELVES / BLOOD ELVES THE LORE IS FULL OFF U C K blizzard
>>580934839total rogue death
>>580933851People are going to avoid learning secondary skills just so they can level primary ones with this>learn first aid>get stuck on some tier of bandages>you now have to wait 50 days for your primary profession to benefit from this
>>580935054they're pretty strong but really boring
hello if i boot up sod can i still play and have a good time or is it totally dead? i got to phase 2 and then stopped playing. blizzcon has reinvigorated me and i want to play wow.
>>580935304Well pvp is gonna be more of an option since they seemed to have reworked honor ranks so you don't have to 24/7 poopsock if you wanna rank up anymore.
>>580931241>MALE HUMAN>WARRIOR>ARMS>NAME: GARITHOS>GOAL: ENGAGE IN COMBAT WITH EVERY KNIFE EAR
>>580934724undead ret paladin
Skyelf druidud warlock (unkillable vampirism build)hum surv lonewolf dragoon.people are sleeping on melee hunters, we are gonna see some NASTY area control that puts mages to shame
>>580935180Nah you wont have them for your first char, but would make fury really nice alts
>frogposter plays a rogueOf coursePeople who main rogues exclusively were the quiet kid who got bullied in high-school
>>580935216the trailer was incredibly esoteric. From the orbs, I am guessing that they'll reveal the Sky Elves to actually be puppeteering Azeroth in some way.
>>580935414i want to do this but i fear everyone wants to do this
>>580934839>>580935296I hope rogues get a nice debuff for raids or something. I think TBC raiding where you try to make good parties is the most fun. Survival Hunter having exposed weakness, for example.
>>580935109I thought wildstar's issue was the attune not the actual raid
>>580935432ah its only like 5% with 5/5 so i dunno if victory rush is baseline and you get it early it might be whatever then
>>580935463>the jailor was trying to protect us from the sky elves
>>580935375>people are going to wait 2 months to level their 6th alt's professions with thisits impressive you idiots some how don't even think even as you're typing the words
>>580935304I think nobody would give a shit about raiding after a year or two since there won't be gear progression and everyone will have what they need to reach acceptable dps for any content
>>580935232who the fuck plays a videogame and still wants to be brown?
>>580935491por que no los dos
>>580935452what if its on a pve realm
>>580935452I'm a frog poster and I hate rogues. I like holy priest!
>>580934753the blue elves are now normal skin tones
>>580935491The attunement paired with telegraphs all on the ground.
mazed
>>580935452Wrong I was the fucking bully and I was grinding HWL with my college brother at 15.
>>580935572they could easily counter this with some kind of gear attunements or require heavy resistance gear for new bosses. something a lot of people seemed to miss though was they said there would be "tier 2 raids", which implies EVENTUAL vertical progression, even if small
>>580934753literally just the elvesmake them high elves and put in forsaken elves or blood elves
>>580934396>rogue stunlocks and 100-0 the shammy like alwaysnothin personnel kid
>>580935650everybody has a hobby little niggayours is being a faggot online
I assume they're disabling Engineering explosives in raidscan anyone confirm slash deny
>thread created 1 hour ago>400 postsoh my god. imagine the absolute seethe of the doom tranny niggers who said this was a guaranteed flopsomeone make a collage of all the "gotcha" screen caps of doom niggers saying this was d.o.a.
>>580932836>"do naxx in order to get frost resist gear in order to do naxx faster in order to what?"Speaking in a detached manner, your internal motivations for why you continue to play the game aren't a high level consideration pertinent to designing end-game content. You already chose to spend your time raiding; you choosing to not raid isn't something completely controllable by designers. If the player decides they're finishing playing the game because they've obtained gear / completion sufficient enough for said player to feel like they've 'won the game,' that's just the mentality of the player.The 'point' of playing the game is whatever each player's internal motivation for playing in the first place is. Some people genuinely enjoy raiding, others tolerate it because it's group content with a community they belong to, some people want to reach a subjective degree of power/accomplishment, etc.Outside this viewpoint, though: Yeah, you'd do [Frost Content], get gear/power that makes [Frost Content] easier, then you'd have the memories in the form of experience and gear to reflect your accomplishments, and if you/your community end up going back to [Frost Content] because you feel like it / are raising up some new guild members / Blizz added a new questline that involves going there ala AQ Rod quest, then you personally have an easier time of it due to having done it already.Whether Blizz actually accomplishes this? Mid-to-low faith, personally.
>>580935663that would only work if new bosses drop something valuable, and since it's not going to be a mandatory gear boost it would be entirely optional
>>580935250>Gaining access to talent power spikes up to 5 levels early is not only strong, but also feels satisfying. I expect a lot of people to pick this one.I actually don't like this one, because the way vanilla level-pacing works (as broken and unfinished as it is) it has zone-changes and difficulty spikes happen at the 10s to coincide with major talent slots and spell gains. For example, paladins learning Seal of Command at 20 or Mages hitting Pyroblast coincides with going to Duskwood (a much more challenging zone than Westfall) and tackling the harder quests in Redridge, and so on and so forth. Learning big talents a few levels early kind of ruins that feeling of 'notched' tiers of progression, which is something that I really like about the 1-60 experience in vanilla.
>>580935739>dwarf shaman stoneforms out of your BlindYeah okay buddy.
Didn't they say they'd announce something about unlocking mounts being "satisfying" or something?Is it still at 40?
>>580935806yeah but it's only for alts. you won't have the points to spend for that talent for your first or potentially even second character depending on how you play. who cares if your third alt has a little bit easier of a time leveling?
>>580935806I doubt they'll change it, but you should actually give feedback during the beta. I agree, though.
>undead warlocks have vampirism>demonology sacing felhunter gives 3% health every 4 seconds>demonology increases healing by 100%>vampirism is a 5% max health tick 5% chance from all damage sources>2 voidwalker shieldsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, IM GOING TO BE FUCKING UNKILLABLE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>580935767this is the 14th thread in two days actually.plus infinity /v/ threads.
NO SPELL TRAINERS
>>580935409Absolutely blessed
>>580935880Probably level 10 for 5 gold within a month
>>580935749>Picturized>The last opposing chud against Blizzard
>>580935794Would also make sense that you get [anti-Frost gear] in a place like Molten Core or BWL. If you get a cloak that produces heat or some stuff, due to elemental fire, it could stop some freezing effect.
>>580935806SoD had the stats rebalanced to be even harder for some areas. I assume this will be similar.I think once beta comes out a significant ammount of worries and variables will come into play. My ideal is that blizzard takes this feedback and actually listens and makes changes for once.. Won't hold my breath.
Predict things that will get changed during the beta due to negative feedback
>>580936023>expecting nu blizz to have this much creativity I bet you it will just be a token tier vendor
>>580936034post with futa
>>580935932>>demonology increases healing by 100%Retard-kun, it only increases your healing equal to 99% of your level. Meaning it only gives 59 spell power at 60.
>>580934753i would change hawkeye to 1 or 2 ranks instead of 3. feels unfair when you look at the other classes
What if they add molten core and Ragnaros was summoned properly and it blows the top off of Blackrock Mountain and all the BRM raids/dungeons are brand new?
the amount of undead paladins named A rthas Ar Thas Art has Arth asmenethil Artha smenithil Arfas Manyfeels etc is going to be fucking STAGGERING
>>580936118they did say old raids were getting touch ups
>>580935932I think people are heavily underestimating the new undead racial. They are comparing it to the retail version which is a procs per minute passive. In Forever it's a flat 5% which can happen way more often.
they're going to do ilvl resets ala destiny 2 power level resets every few raid tierskeeps old content relevant and you're still in a position to hop into the new stuff if you take a year offscreenshot this
Waiting for Gobbos and naming myselfSally Suckslarge
>>580935928Your post was thoughtful as well so I will give feedback if you will nonny, it's a deal let's fix classic together (we are both going to be ignored as they add more shop mounts instead)
>>580936172no
>>580936160>5%>way more oftenYou failed statistics didn't you.
>Shaman>Druid>Priest>HunterWhich of these is going to have the best time PvPing?
my male undead paladin (holy ofc) is going to larp as a worshiper of the emperor of mankind
>>580936172i've wanted this for retail forever. mix and matching tier sets is the dream
I always play a warlock, should I play a mage or hunter or druid instead?
>>580936160>undead spriest with swp devplag mindflay or warlock with corruption, bane, immolate, siphon, drain hope. its going to be a blood bath.arms warriors are gonna eat good for no other reason than being the only thing that can stop them
>Undead Paladin>Racist>Bigot>Kill every race except humans on sightthis is my roleplay
>>580936087Well I can pray for something so obvious to me I suppose.
>>5809362395% on every source of damage is gonna happen more often than the retail one for a dot class.
>>580936243hunter for wpvp and priest for group pvp
>>580936243Durid
>>580931241depends what my brother does.if he goes alliance, ill prob roll Human Hunter or Human Warriorif he goes Horde, ill prob roll Undead Paladin or Undead Warlock.PvP of course.
>>580936342Great what about Rogue
SCREENCAP THIS, THIS IS HOW THEY KEEP RAID CONTENT RELEVANTMIXED TIERSET BONUSESthats right, tier 1 3 piece mixed with 3 piece tier 2 gives a NEW bonus alltogether that you cant get from full t2 or full t1.SCREEN CAP THIS
>>580936023Yeah, ideally, there's already a layout of the various [X Content] at least drawn up so Blizz knows what X Bonus shit they're working with, even if the details aren't hammered out yet.Giving the Hydraxian Waterlords some new pre-shit (maybe that circled area of the northern Winterspring coast from the image of new shit) to serve as a tertiary lead-in to make the probable revamped Molten Core easier to start would be neat. Then when you've cleared Molten Core, you've got MC gear that you can save up so when you go do Naxx / some future Frosty issues, Blizz can add a questline or faction shit that lets you slap a rune/armor kit/whatever on that MC gear to let it serve as anti-Frost.Relatively minor shit like that would be a nice synergy to play with for a wider end-game. Even if it ends up with a token vendor, having things to -do- and 'rewarding' players for holding onto the proof of their accomplishments can be a good system of nostalgic attachment to keep players hooked.
>>580935932Don't forget cannibalize gives mana as well now, so every few minutes you don't even have to life tap either. Undead locks were already one of the strongest combos in vanilla and now we are so fucking winning even moreMetamorphosis looks like it might be in as well, so now they just have to add Felguards and I'll be happy (even just a voidwalker glyph would be nice)
My WoW copy had at least 60TBs of loli and shota porn, do I report this to the police?
>>580936294In bgs with a healer or premade, sure, they have a chance.In world warrior gets absolutely molested by priests and stomped by any warlock worth their salt.
>Human Paladin>not racist>progressive and accepting>kill noeshoe horde filth on sightthis is my roleplay
>>580936268mages have always seemed to make the biggest impact in classic dungeons but who knows how this retoilet version will pan out
>>580936407Rupture bleed + constant hits with 1 handers? Also gonna get a lot of procs.If you are minmaxxing rogue though you wanna be Gnome that shit is giga OP
>>580936172resets are ass, fuck you i wanna clear everything and then retire on my mountain of epics so i can run around the world helping lowbies and doing wpvp
Make your predictions now:How long until the first store mount, token, transmog set and pet are added to the WOW FOREVER cash shop?
>>580936412retard
>>5809365623 months
Oceanic bros? Are we gonna get 200 ping sharded to US players?
>>580936412sounds too good so it would never happenit only happens if it sounds bad (e.g. WoW Forever name leak)
>>580936412SCREENCAP THISI AM GAY AND MY PENIS IS VERY SMALL (PLEASE DO NOT MAKE FUN OF MY SMALL GAY PENIS!!!!)
>>580935932>*one shots you in a single seal twist*nothing personnel, kid
Human MaleWarriornamed Gary Thoskills all blues on sight (horde will have a higher % of blues because the only horde races that will be played are blues and undead)dismount all blues on sight never group with blues, never invite them to anythingthis is my RP
>>5809365626 months max
What if they just reset item level and shrimply allow the buffet of all old content and new content to be done in order to get that max ilvl again?So you can and probably will do the newest content to replenish the ilvl, but you can also still do the old stuff on alts if you want. Or even just to get the same tier set again but with the new ilvl.
>>580936421Shaman has a few talents for tanking too. I think some of the SoD specs may be in but they excluded them from being played at the blizzcon demo for whatever reason.
Blizzard will implement an immunity system or start banning people because blue elves will get corpsecamped by autistic faggots like me.
>>580936497Call the based department
undead warrior sounds so good on paper but the nerfed shoulders they never reverted and their shitty swing animations just make me not want to bother
i wish theyd give you the option to play undead without all the ripped clothes
>>580936662Seriously don't understand why Shaman would have that new Spirit Weapons talent in Enhance if they aren't able to tank. Might be cool.
>>580936687i made a post on the new wow forever subreddit about making the biggest guild on the server not allow blue elves and I got banned from the subreddit in less than 30 minutes
>>580936662Gnomes have been dealing with it since 2004
Here are the new racials since nobody has posted them this threadSurely they are going to give Hunters the ability to use maces now, right? Axes for rogues are already confirmed
>>580936643So I'd just be refarming the set that I already have because it lost its stats? That's beyond retarded, why would I even bother farming this shit in the first place then? It sounds like renting, I guess that tracks, I will own nothing and be happy
>>580935932>>580936865Isn't troll still just better?
>>580935019all this metadata is so juicy, im going to copy everything you doing bro
>>580930973>ai slopfuck off nigger
>>580936865>Axes for rogues are already confirmedwhere
>>580936953thats a screenshot dude
>>580936865does the gnome racial work with rogue energy
>>580936865Im making an orc rogues who’s only purpose is to gank warlocks
>>580936787For pvp obviously. Arms warriors in particular take full parry talents specifically for tanking during levelling and against other warriors/rogues/enh/pala for a wep swing.
>>580936865>two races have % beast damagegive troll something else
Man, the seething on /vg/ doesn't come anywhere close to how mad they are on /v/. That other anon was right. They're fucking losing it over there.
>>580930320>Esfand doesn't like Forever Paladin because its not clunky as fuck and he thinks clunkyness 'adds character'Please Blizzard do not listen to this fat Iranian retard
>>580936662>>580936787Sham also get Stormstrike cd reset on every dodge/parry.I wouldn't be surprised if a few SoD specs are in but the spells are hidden around the world to stick with the tradition. They maybe wanted to keep it a secret but included Metamorphosis in the demo spellbook by mistake.
>he's already back
>>580936865>sulfuras hunterslmao
>>580936865i think its very soulful to have a bricked race class combo
>>580937057Go back
>This big of a crowd on a sunday nightWe're so back
>lava burst in>water shield in>multi totem placements in>spirit doggos not in:(
>>580934753>If you could change 1 thing about wow4ever what would it beChallenges for HC like ironman, or no talents use, only white equipment used, SSF, etc. With titles as rewards.
>>580936243Shaman in BG's, a good Rshaman can win his team the gameHunter/Druid for WPvPPriest if you wanna win duels in shadow and go OOM in every other game format
>>580937137nah thats mazerats rushing to get 3400 before forever beta launches its actually never been more over for retoilet kek
>>580937161I use ctrl keys for totems so I kind of prefer not having wolves/pets
>>580937073>watching key opinion leaders
>>580937030He is talking about the talent that increases your threat generation, which obviously would have nothing to do with pvp. There is no reason they'd let you INCREASE your threat if Sham weren't meant to be tanks.
>>580937057https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/747617708/wow-never#bottomit's insane
I'm hoping and praying they make Infernal/Doomguard/Felguard usable for warlocks in some way and not regulated to meme spells.
>>580937270hang tight, backup is on the way
i genuinely cant decide if i wanna main hunter warlock druid shammy or priest.
I've never played Classic, main Monk on retailWhat should I play?
>>580937309>regulatedRelegated.
>>580937261Oh yeah with the stamina talents, threat increase, dodge talents etc I'd hope that shaman tank becomes a thing. It already was in vanilla for low level stuff, but fell off because of the lack of plate/hp.Having more tanks is always a good thing.
>>580937261Eh, still a pretty scuffed tank even with earth shock taunt and fire nova totem as a discount-consecration. I predict shamans will only be taken as tanks when the group is desperate and there is literally nobody else in LFD (which is like half the time tbf i guess)
>>580936891You can transmog. But if you don't want to transmog, then yeah you'd be farming it again.But alas, I think it is better than making the old content completely outdated and obsolete.
>>580937376With my ass
>>580937376rogue
>>580937376nothing really plays like it. shaman or paladin tbdesu. both got some good updates and alliance will desparately need shamans. horde will too. everyone needs fucking shamans
>>580937376Rogue. Uses energy, hits shit fast, and has combo points. But you build them in your target and not yourself like with Chi.
>>580936865Something to note is the Skyborne racial is NOT a slow fall. It is a full blown GOBLIN GLIDER. You get vastly increased movespeed and full movement control in the air. They are gonna be able to reach bullshit spots in battlegrounds that melee cannot reach.
>>580937376Stay away please
>>580937376some other game, we dont want you in our forever
>>580937161That spell would make no sense for my dwarf shaman to have, glad they kept it out.
Tauren is the stealth OP pick. War stomp was already a good racial. Now they have 1% hit too?
>>580930770Did they make quests easier by allowing anyone that tagged the mob get the item? If not leveling will be a complete disaster in the beginning.
>>580937309There is a slim hope that doomguards will be more usable somehow>>580937409Considering they removed Shield Spec from Enhancement, i really doubt there is any kind of serious push for shaman tanks but i could be wrong
>>580937376Depends on faction.Horde will be drowning in shammies, uf paladins and warriors with a shortage of priests and druids.
>>580937492>rocket bootson>skelf racialactivated>WSG flagbetween my ass cheeks>locationon top of the building>your status?mad and bad
>>580937409>>580937415My guess is that sham, lock, and maybe even rogue will have some SoD type discoveries around the world that teach them their tanking spells.
>>580937602dude ud priest is gonna be the new raid meta thanks to their life tap racial
general shouldve been /wowfuge/
>>580937517>>580937545hey that's not nice
Tank or Healer is going to be so nice to play only because you'll be able to control the pace of the dungeons and always be able to put together a group with ease. While being able to kick under-performing dps sissies and have a plethora of new dps waiting and willing to join.
Are paladins not dogshit tanks now or are they still fucked
>>580937559Make them Spirit Bears instead. Happy?Actually I would love more racial-changing spells in general. Give Sunfire to Tauren Druids instead of Moonfire, while we're at it.
>>580937420also 'farming' has some negative connotations.It would still be just as hard as it was when it first came out. It wouldn't just be some transmog run that you breeze through.
>>580937724They are probably the strongest tanks now
>>580937576Like another anon said they'll probably be that tank you choose if there's no other option available, probably for lower end dungeons, or maybe the talents will be reworked at some point before release.
>>580937724They were always amazing tanks, tf are you on aboutIf anything they're gimped due to the consecrations changes, but well nobody will be farming full dungeon pulls anymore anyways with the xp changes so it doesn't matter
>>580937776I think Feral looks better tbdesu.
>>580937198It was quite hilarious that Blizzcon was entirely focused on Forever while Retail barely even got some scraps.
>>580937724they look strong. consecrate having small damage to unlimited enemies and max damage to only 4 nerfs their massive aoe potential but still remain strong as an overall aoe tank. they received a taunt, another insta ability thats pure holy damage so RF works, several mana talents as well.overall happy but only 4% stam scaling vs 20% for bears and 10% for warriors has me concerned
>>580937572no, I saw in some of the gameplay that it's not shared mob tagging
>>580937724Each deep dive was the devs glazing paladin. If anything paladin will be viable on all three specs now.
>>580937270The beta being playable in a week is like kicking the /v/irgin hornet's nest - the idea of playing video games is that traumatic to them. They were deprived of months of vague doomposting.
>>580937620Soda showed a Metamorphosis skill for lock on stream that was augmented with a rune called Doom Howl or something similar. Not sure if that was a bug or if they really do have SoD type discoveries they didn't want to reveal at Blizzcon
im going to play a fem skelf warrior!
>>580937568It's nice being a druidfag and just having Tauren locked in regardless of whether they're good or not. Always has been. Plainsrunning is SOVL and their other racials seem good too.
Why do warlocks get just a free fucking pass to be the most busted class in the game, and they're even better now wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDOim-gO6KUbarbershop in game. giga
>join a group looking for a tank>paladin, shaman, druid, warrior>"oh, oops you already have four tanks," leave group>"we're dps XD"it could happen and im prepared now for that scenario
>>580937897IIRC Paladin is Aggrend's favorite class, so this isn't really a surprise
>>580936587ausCHADS don't worry about that shit
>forced to play with OC do not steal elves on either factionThey really couldn't quarantine them to just Horde?
>>580938079This happened all the time during classic and anni. You really have to bully people to play a tank or healer. I constantly bully hybrids if we're missing a role for leveling dungeons.
>>580937867Did Blizzard say anything about lowering how long it takes to get to 60?
>>580938172They're cute
>>580938003heh , bit the bullet and preorgered huh? Heh heh.I'm considering preorgering myself.
>>580938214Made to be raped by a BWC
>>580938079can i have that 2h for my dps spec
>>580938214Who said you could steal my OC?
>>580938214>troonflag color pattern>random niggerGoing to kill every paypig troonelf I see.
>>580938212Pretty sure it's the exact same xp rates but it should be a bit easier with all the new quests added
>>580938172no reason to play them on alliance so it's finehorde will be nothing but blue elves and undead ret paladins
Damn Madseason is already flexxin’ on blizzard telling them he won’t play their retail slop abomination kek
>>580938053What about this is so good?
>>580937376>retail monkHAHAHAHAAHAH
>HIGH orderThey literally cannot help themselves. Imagine seething for a decade+ straight.
>>580938079>thunderclap>sunder tab sunder tab sunder tab sunder>thunderclapamazing how this is too difficult for brownoids
>>580938214fact
>>580938364>sac Imp>summon Succubus >all the fucking shadow damageThere's no way it's not good.
>>580938336>still giving blizzard your goy money Larry Fink won.
>>580937057it's genuinely private server posters seething and trying to doompost to get less people talking about it.private server general is DEAD they're all piled in there having a group cry because forever shits on turtle and the other pserver garbage
>>580936687>Blizzard will implement an immunity system or start banning people because blue elves will get corpsecamped by autistic faggots like me.Just do NOT neglect your duty, anon. You know what you have to do.
>>580938363parasocial doomer bros (hows that even work?)we're winning!wait no he said he's gonna play. back to your pservers. wait no they got obliteratedpserver jeeters? what do we do?
>>580938302i fucking wish personalize loot was a thing in this shit i do not care man
>>580938364Because demonic sacrifice just makes you that much stronger
>>580938363That dude has become the living embodiment of pic related.
>>580938382>make pale, blonde skelf with blue eyes>it's a high elfSimple as that.
>>580938469>claims not to play the game>hanging out where people discuss it all day every dayJunkie behavior. Youll relapse soon.
>>580938543No, it's a Skyborne
>>580936865My orc warlock is going to be based.
>>580935806>Duskwood (a much more challenging zone than Westfall)
>>580938389>erm uhhhhhh que? i mean sure i tank>puts on a white shield and proceeds to charge in and dps a single target and lose threat on everything else
Even Madseason is back.We're all going home bros.
still don't know how this mega realm shit will workhaven't they always needed to open up new realms for queue times and make different world instances due to lagnow everyone will be in one place but on different layers
>>580938570You’re the one complaining about troons yet give the troons that work at blizzard money all day everyday.
well /wowfg/ are you Team High Order or Team Windshaper?
>>580938612if you die to a pillager you are literally retarded
>>580938491This. I would visit wpsg every few months to see if any promising servers had popped up, and those faggots were in a constant state of shitposting about streamers and spamming wojaks/frogs all day long. Probably the worst kind of /qa/ slop kind of general I've seen on /vg/ and that's saying something. It'll be nice to have a decent general with fresh posters for vanilla wow now, because the game is really timeless and it's got plenty to talk about
>>580938654>brownseason
>>580933120Stay hydrated, mage.
>>580935806rogue poison quest right at 20 was gay aids though
i like how they don't even mention dwarf shamans outside of the trailer that showed one casting lightning boltit's all about lore breaking undead paladins
>>580938768they know they can get lots of chud money with edgy paladins
>>580934753Bring back Shaman Tanks. I really don't want to play Warrior for the tenth time, EVERYONE is going to play Paladin, and Druid sucks because bear form looks like ass.
>>580938768It's been the most requested race+class combo ever. They even put one in the cinematic because they know how much people care. Nobody gives a fuck about a random class combo from cata.
>>580935806>Your application to Shadowfang Keep has been declined>Reason stated: sry need priest with early talents
>>580938768>lore breaking undead paladinsNo more lore breaking than undead priests.
>>580938878anyone wanting that is a fucking retard and should fuck offit's as bad as any other non-human paladin
>>580938846Sham have a threat increase talent. They seem to be intended to play tank too. You may have to unlock their tank spells through quests or something.
>frost mage buffed>hunter traps buffed>druid entangling roots>warriors receiving the least amount of buffs/changes out of every class in the entire gamekek i can't wait to shit on browns even more. might roll pvp ruleset just for this reason
>>580938768>i like how they don't even mention dwarf shamans outside of the trailer that showed one casting lightning boltBecause no one is fucking excited for dwarf shamans. Dwarves are great for the setting, but no one wants to play a dwarf. What's worse is they didn't even talk about its specs at all. They spent like half an hour going over Aggrend's hero class.
>>580938654You could literally hear him AFKing at crabs in the intro to his Forever video
>>580938705My TBC Guild imploded and we were big dicks on the server. GDKP's all died overnight and token prices rose dramatically. Safe to say we're in for a 2nd impact of 2019 level if the beta next week doesn't dissapoint.Blizzcon showed slideshows. Once people see it's SOD+ with quality only the most scorned ex-girlfriends will refuse to atleast try it since it's included in the 15$ sub.
>>580938986Warriors were the most well balanced class in classic.
>>580939012ally needed another shaman eligible race. but i've no clue what it would be. furbolg expac? draenei? fuck man.
>>580938702>>580938612HOEGH? *fire casting noises*
>>580938986Warriors are still going to be broken, you realize>>580939040>Blizzcon showed slideshowsExcept they also let people play the demo on the show floor, and there will be thousands of people playing it in a few days. We'll know how it actually feels in less than a week.
Skyborne druids shouldn't be allowed to play Horde.It breaks the game.
>>580938947>resurrected citizens of fucking Lordaeron who can already be Priests should not be able to be PaladinsYou're only pretending to care about the lore. It never made sense that they couldn't be.
>>580938986
>>580939082I agree. Only dwarves getting shaman sucks fucking ass. The easy choice would be the skelves, just give them both shaman and paladin. Or just the regular elves. I'm not a lore fag and I don't really care about lore, but I've never understood why nelfs can't be shamans. Seems to fit them.
>>580939082Broken would be cool, no need for Russian space goats
>>580938491Glad to see people calling this out and the spammers are leaving the threads. It's all just poorfag third-worlders complaining because they can't afford a WoW sub. It was the same on /v/ with the Ocarina of Time remake. They just can't afford a Nintendo Switch 2. It's all just poorfag third worlders, every single time.
are we hyped?
>>580939162for some reason imagined a guy in a tweed brown suit jacket and white dress shirt with tie , and black moustche going to a Game store in the 90s and showing a Broken Game console.
>>580939139This somehow reminded me of Sneed being incredibly overtuned on Project Epoch. Unironically the most fucked up boss in their version of Deadmines.
>>580939215no not really
Are PvP servers going to end up being 98% single faction again? Haven't really played since wotlk classic/sod launch.
>>580939041This is what delusional woyers actually believe.
Hell yes
>>580939215just a bit
>>580938986People said the same thing about SoD warriors and they still ended up OP
>>580939215yeah two of my friends who retired in 2021 forever agreed to come back for a few weeks for one last rodeo
>>580939215yes, we all are
>>580939040Stop posting that gay frog
>>580939215Cautiously optimistic
>>580939204>everyone who disagrees with me is just a poorfag
>>580939138What’s your name, fag? Don’t keep me waiting on the edge of my seat
>>580939204Poorfaggery really should be a bannable offence. Gaming discussion would improve 10000x if all poorfaggery was forbidden.
>>580939310Meds not your boogeyman
>>580938079Did you not play Classic? This shit was already common as fuck.I played healer twice and I cannot believe how many fucking times you're going into a ~level 40 instance and there's two warriors in the group and you're still looking for a fucking tank.
>>580939272>servershe doesn't know...
>>580939204Sour grapes from 17 year old Brazillian ESL teenagers and Hindus has become rampant. God I wish another language other than English was the default language of earth I have to share my American sites with so much third world bullshit.
>>580939183I'm a lore fag and nelves being shamans doesn't fit. their nature connection is with the forest and druid fits cleanly with shamans (more elemental connection) doesn't fit too well. the odd things is they purposely did a schism within skyborne culture that sends the elementally inclined to the horde and the arcane inclined to alliance. currently the faction specific classes are imbalanced. 2 pals on alliance FOUR shamans on horde. i don't know about that.>>580939189we'll see what they're going to do. archimondes model was already in WC3 which is the draenei/eredar look. if we see more eredar in vanilla or even a fem eredar model (which would be draenei) then i feel very certain we'll get draenei at some point and then we can get more shamans
>>580939272There are no PvP servers anymore. It's one giant megaserver. You state your PvP preference. You get clustered with roughly 50% Horde and 50% Alliance players.PvPfags won't be able to hide behind their faction majority any longer. You'll have to fight in the open world again no matter what.
>>580939330Unironically, yes. If you're not a poorfag, you simply just don't engage with content that doesn't interest you. I love Persona 4. It's my favorite game. I checked out the remake, and I don't like the new soundtrack and them abandoning the original voice actors. I won't play it. I don't go posting in the Persona threads complaining about it and saying how bad the game is. I just don't care. Why? Cause I could buy Persona 4 if I wanted it. Poorfags can't afford to buy the new Skyborne, so they complain about it. They can't afford a WoW sub, so they complain about it. They can't afford a Nintendo Switch 2, so they complain about it. etc.
>>580939215I wouldn't say I'm hyped, but I'm going to play it and, at the very least, enjoy the improved visuals. Cautiously optimistic. One thing that's important to remember is that this isn't Classic, with #NoChanges hanging over its head. They can and will change things that are imbalanced or unhealthy for the game, most likely.
>>580939470Not reading that :)
>>580939470Rare based take from Maye.
>>580939139Every time I see someone comment about the Pillagers it reminds me that some players still haven't grasped the concept of what LoS is after 20+ years. HC truly is casual mode.
>want to play hardcore>cant bring myself to lvl with the beta just a few days away.fuck
>>580939461honestly how are they going to pull off the 'seeing familiar faces' thing if it is just one big ass serber?
>>580939215Not really, at the end of the day it's still vanilla at its core. I've yet to see anything fun that will stop me from raidlogging.
>>580939215giga bigly XL hyped
>>580939498That's exactly what I'm saying. That you're a third world illiterate mongrel that can't read two sentences of English.
i think it's important to really slap blizzard in the nuts about the 30$ elf thing.i really don't want to pay 30$ for a death knight in 9 months. this sets a bad precedent and it's important to yell and piss in the bathwater right now while their foot is just slightly keeping the door ajar.
>Join the PvP megaserver>Huge world PvP about to breakout in the barrens >*get randomly teleported to layer 7258131*>no one in sight In the spirit of vanilla bois
>>580939549There is some sort of algorithm that tries to put you on the same layer as people you've played with before.
>Sky Elves are Shen'dralar (Dire Maul elves) who fled into the elemental plane of air>Dire Maul west is full of Air ElementalsPLANNEDSINCE2006
>>580939546my internet went out tonighti spent 40 minutes killing that fucking dragon in elden ring that just sits there dying, letting you attack it30 minutes after my internet came back onjust do it faggotwhat the fuck else are you going to do
>>580939461Have they said if it's such that you can make a character on a PVE, then log into PVP? Or is it just you choose one of those categories and that's the permanent choice for that character? i.e., could I make a character on a PVE server, level up with no threat, then convert it to a PVP server and then go gank lowbies?
>>580939629metzen i kneel
>>580938035blue elves can be druids too now
>>580939625going to just have to make a big raid group and roll up.
>>580939625The pvp megaserver is going to be a 10/90 split in favor of Alliance anywayNobody is fucking playing horde seriously for pvp with those racials
>>580939621If you think that’s bad just wait for the cash shop transmog sets, mounts, tokens, level boosts and pets get added
We love a good queue don't we lads?
>>580937823What are the xp changes?
>>580939710We say sex elves here.
>>580939215kinda. i hope i get into the beta.i dont feel like subbing now to play some off shoot version of the off shoot vanilla game again in themeantime
>>580938920>LoreletUndead priests channeled light acting as a conduit and it's heavily implied undead priests are shadow priests. While paladins quite literally infuse their bodies with light which is actually deadly for them.
Why has no one mentioned this
>>580939546Yeah they kinda fucked my plan up, I got to 31 on Warlock but now I'm conflicted about this beta, especially since my friends are all paypigs and pre-ordered in 5 minutes.>>580939621>Just vote with your wallets!
>>580939763They nerfed dungeon trash exp into the ground so that Forever dungeons will feel like m+ where you want to skip as much trash as possible since it's a waste of time to kill it
>>580939743If you are white you do yes
>>580939730damn, i hope my pc can render the 396344 people playing on the horde side
>>580939730Just mass report the racials in the beta, flag them with feedback, spam general chat/forums with posts about the alliance racials being OP, then they'll get nerfed before launch and horde will be better again.
>>580939549if i were developing it, i would have people get slotted into a list of like, 3-5 servers with different priorities. and they're basically fixed at character creation.these would be based on location (for ping minimization) and language preference.if you join a guild where most people are all on a different "hidden server" from you, that hidden server would become your top priority one. which would probably mean that you'd quit seeing the same familiar faces out in the world.the only way you could have both is if it's based on a per-zone "mini server" instead of a full "world server".but yeah that's how i'd design it and it's probably pretty close to that under the hood.
>>580939735I am blizzard’s best goy cattle, I will be buying the $90 mount and the wow tokens
>>580939621>i think it's important to really slap blizzard in the nuts about the 30$ elf thing.You don't have to buy it. >i really don't want to pay 30$ for a death knight in 9 months.You really can't save up less than $3 a month? Come on bro. But on a more serious note, if they're going to continually make new content the game needs to bring in some money. They're running a business, it's not a charity. The suits won't settle for it breaking even, they actually want a profit. As far as monetization goes something which in essence is completely cosmetic is fair.
>>580939835Guess it's an anti boost measure. I like it then
I know dungeons are such that tanks will get their dick sucked to grace them with their presence but does that flip at 60 for raids? A big thing for retail is it's kind of hard to find an open tank slot in guilds since 1:10 ratio.
>>580939215As much as I hate nu-blizzard, and as much as I can never truly whitepill myself for anything coming from modern gaming, yes I'm hyped. The rest of blizz is absolutely fucked, but the classic team has repeatedly shown that they know what makes vanilla wow tick even if they make mistakes sometimes too. Forever has way more going for it than it should have, by all rights. Really if you took out the paid elves then it would just be nitpicks at that point.
some1 post the blood elf top popularity chart pic
>>580939625>Join the PvP megaserver>want to do some open world pvp>accidentally join asmon layer>kill a random guy that turns out to be some streamer>get mass reported and bannedIn the spirit of vanilla bois
>>580939621If you don't want Skyborne, then don't pay for it. It's pretty easy to understand.
>>580939819we only saw reduction of parry and dodge % so that'll be the expertise. was not shown as a stat called expertise anywhere just the function of it added on items
>>580939924>does that flip for raidsYesBut also tanks will be more common for dungeons now anyway
>>580939852yeah that worked really well back in the day when humans got their second trinket racial didnt it
>>580939710Like I said, it's nice having Tauren locked in
>>580939979but muh ogres :(
>>580939924depends if the raid needs them but most of the time tank slots get filled since you dont need so manyif your class can tank and dps/heal then you're guaranteed spotsunless you're paladin. expect a lot of paladins
Holy grim
so with the single realms professions are now worthless? china levels of production saturation.
>>580939665don't forget to pick up the talismans in caelid too while you're there bro
>>580940020So basically play druid or kill yourself?
>>580940021whoa wtf, that's disgusting
>>580939730It's really just gnomes that have bonkers racials. Humans are strong with the stun removal but it's not the insanity that is their wotlk version.
>>580939924There's going to be far less dungeon groups this time around as they want people in the world, not chain running SM all day. Tank value will drop. If you want to feel useful level your professions for Camp bonuses instead.
>>580938986Warlocks were already one of the best PvP classes in classes and actually got even better. Weird that you didn't mention in.
serious question, since theyre adding frostfire bolt, whats the odds we get spellfire bolt and or spellfrost bolt too? i want to play arcane mage but dont want the misery of post-40 falloff like in SoD
>>580940021holy based
>>580940021I admittedly do not like this one. It's a little much.
>>580939924unless you go full sweaty you will never tank in raids, however maybe that will now change a little with the 10-20 man raids, no clue how widespread those are going to be
>>580940021nooooooooooo I want my bags to be full of useless shit all the time :(
Forever is just another wow expansion??? I feel like im taking crazy pills. Every wow expansion has been an embarrassment. The scientific theory of classic wow is totally lost on modern blizzard. These key details of their product weren’t noted down by the devil worshipping illuminati who were convening with spirits from another realm when designing Elwynn forest, and have been lost to time. Forever will be a decent mmo but it won’t be classic +. You actually can’t alter the theory behind classic, every single change has created a worse product. This is more or less in line with the theory that lucifer created the human body to play world of Warcraft classic and diablo 2, and everything else we’ve seen out of gaming companies is just to keep the world feeling real. Let’s give a hand of applause to lucifer and his. clones, I can’t stop cheering until he puts the gun (and his penis) away.
>>580940130that sucks, getting big weapon drops from dungeons or cool iconic items such as whitemanes hat always felt like an integral part of the core gameplay loop
More grim
>>580940000>But also tanks will be more common for dungeons now anywayNever happens. Doesn't matter when tanks are broken as shit or they add 50 new ones like SoD did. There's always a shortage for dungeons.
>>580940085Realmless was a bad decision.Should of just played it by ear and merged realms if realms got so badly balanced over time. >>580940161yes, that's part of the game.
>>580940021>>580940110This is crazy. This is outrageous. I won't be playing now. Someone can unlock a feature where they don't have to buy reagents from a vendor? This is like the Holocaust. Can someone bring me my inhaler? I feel sick.
>>580940021Won't anyone think about the candle vendors?
>>580940201It's worth it if it means leaving boosties out in the cold, we all have to make sacrifices to stop melee comps from ruining the game for the rest of us like they did in Classic.
>>580939705Speaking of metz does he work at blizzard again or something? Or is he like a private consult or something. I keep hearing his name mentioned around foreverwow
>>580940212>yes, that's part of the game.Go play era if that's what you want.
>>580940167I forgot I wrote this, I took my schizo meds now guys
>>580939629>plant elves added 2028>dire maul east full of plants:O
>>580939735if people push back against it now, then those things don't happen. i don't know how to voice my opinion about it. i don't think blizzard is reading the /wowfg/ thread on /vg/. and i am not going to the blizzard forums. but i am angry about it.>>580939879>But on a more serious note, if they're going to continually make new content the game needs to bring in some money.i agree. if 15$ a month is not enough to fund development (how much do servers cost?), i'm fine paying an equivalent "flat cost" to what i would pay for expansions previously. in exchange for real content. i would have been fine if they said "wow forever will cost 30$". i also believe that the sky elves were added BECAUSE they were told to sell a race or a class or something. i believe that in a hypothetical universe where we just paid 30$ for "wow forever", there would be no sky elves. they're "artificial". just monetization.
>>580940234Dude metzen is fucking lucifer. Hes literally named after meeting zen. Do you see how crazy you look talking about lucifer in public like that. I mean I know you’re probably lucifer too and literally are schizophrenic lucifer you need to take your meds like you made me do.
>>580940234hired a few years ago to be the creative head of the warcraft franchise. then suddenly world soul is announced, and camelot has a new build that no one knew was camelot. he's the reason this is happening and you can be for sure that at the end of world soul something will happen
now that they've given both factions Blood Elf Models, they can move onto adding Races such as Ogres, Goblins, and Night Elf Worgen.
>>580940234He squiggled a quick map for the Skyborne starting zone on a whiteboard, collected his salary and then fucked off for another 6 months.
>>580940234He's the creative director of Warcraft>>580940257The pills are just how They control you, and they're tricking you. The pills aren't safe.
>>580940167sorry i really forgot to take my meds this time guys
>>580939924>tanks will get their dick sucked to grace them with their presenceFlip the script, Heal BVLL. Make them grovel for WF or BoM
>>58094021040% of the playerbase will be paladins.
>>580940021My father was an ankh vendor, and his father before him. This is a generational insult to our proud craft. I cannot abide this. Forever? For me, it's Warcraft NEVER.
>>580940418and 99% of those paladins will be ret-ards
>>580940149>>580940213To be fair they did show this slide when emphasizing that *some* Legacy perks will be like capstones where you can only have 1 of them active, so it would be a choice between this and something else really really good. I don't think a bag slot or 2 is going to be worth choosing over more XP or regen rates or something, so I doubt many people would pick this
Just ignoring Classic and creating a separate tab in the launcher was 200iq play. The bloat with 10 game versions can now be buried off to the side.
>>580940368Nah, next is a neutral faction of space goats that Archimonde sealed away in a separate dimension who we rescue after finding the key to the seal on his corpse in Hyjal.
>>580940456And no warrior tank is going to invite them and compete for gear with them, so they will be forced to tank
>>580938389Tclap is a noob trap, it costs too much rage for the threat. Only use it for the debuff. You want to spam demo shout in most cases.
>>580940212>Should of just played it by ear and merged realms if realms got so badly balanced over time.hasn't this gone disastrously every single timecase in point, i was true blue grobbulus during original classic, and watched three different friend groups pick realms that ended up being 90:10 faction imabalanced within a year. they all needed to transfer in the end.
>>580940342>if people push back against it now, then those things don't happenLmao they will fleece their pay piggies no matter what. They didn’t hesitate putting boosts and retail slop mounts to the cash shop in TBC and tokens to wrath you think they’ll hesitate going scorched earth with this new slop? Why do you think transmog is in the game?Best thing is just not to play it.
>>580940428It's a declaration of war against reagent vendors everywhere.
>>580940021FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>58094041835% of the entire playerbase for classic was browns/pinks/druids and nobody tanked.
>>580940142They don't have very many slows/roots so they don't fuck warriors in as much of an amusing way as the other classes do, that's all
>>580939215No but I'll still play for a time.
>>580940428Based, I will buy ankhs from your store, anon.
I'm only tanking so I can be the GM and take Ashbringer. Now say thank you, dpscuck.
who else been playing hots
>>580939549>Previous played with>Location basedIt's not that hard
>>580940539Yes it has ignore that retard.
>>580940540We all know you're not going to play it, Patel, because you can't afford it. Nobody cares about your sub-human Hindu opinions. Maybe some day your father will sell a goat and you can afford to buy a month subscription.
>>580940232>boostiesi don't give a fuck if other people boost.why would i want my experience to suffer just because you don't like how other people skip the entire game?
>>580940205This one is nowhere near as bad. Pretty reasonable tbdesu.
>>580940509damn actually. could work
>>580935806>power spikes like mage pyroblast
>>580940539In that case they should of just merged RP-PVP servers.There was Deviate Delight.
>>580940527probably not even let paladins heal their party either.personal loot would solve so many issues
>>580940504Its under classic as well
>>580940257The reason milleys harvest of grapes was so bountiful is because it’s a metaphor about not killing everyone. But the defias are also wanting in on that grape harvest which was the joke basically. So if you aren’t “milling” humans, your harvests bounty is stolen by poors, who are the defias. That’s actually like lucifers humor dude he is always talking about mass murder, although in real life nothing ever happens without the tv on. Which is another one of his products, clearly designed to scare and distract us from our terrible situations, while he takes the money and runs.
>>580940693me! xallytoes is pretty hype
>>580940714Good goy, you tell that brownoid, now buy the $90 dollar mount
i havent seen a single player who isn't a tourist shitposting or private server tranny complaining
>>580940616Assuming equal skill and equal gear do you think a warrior has any chance against a warlock?
third worlders hate Forever because they can't afford $15 a month sub
>Oh mein gott 15$ to play classic?>Noooo not like this!!!/we/ will be playing.
They added the blue elves just because it would inspire the porn-niggers to spend money on the game. They also knew people would bitch about it so the slop niggers have something to blindly defend which will prime them to defend whatever other retarded shit they add in the future.
>>580940796lol what the fuck so warlords of draenor classic is next?makes me miss glad spec
>>580940887>>580940887NEW BREAD >>580940887BAKED>>580940887>>580940887
>>580940796kinda dumb cause this isn't classic at all but most are just going to find forever through the new tab not in that text menu
>>580930516Sod did this.
>>580940738Boosting is just obnoxious I guess, I think that’s one of the major reasons I quit retail and started speedrunning classic. Trade chat is just people selling boosts, you try to find an arena team it’s just people selling boosts, you try to join a raid it’s more people boosting for real money or gold. It’s just so fucking ugly looking and totally ruins the game for me. I mean I’ve both bought and sold boosts myself but that shit needs its own fucking LFG tool. Every time I read one my blood pressure spikes it’s like a reminder of how shit my life is and how poor I am and how unfair it is that these faggots can trade real money for thunderfury and if you don’t spend you won’t compete without some very good luck
>>580940859Nah, which is why I specifically said 'amusing'. Fear is funny but watching them stand there helplessly rooted while you kite them is funnier
>>580940213Keep defending retail mechanics retard. The evidence of it being retail lite keeps piling up.
>>580941064you need to touch some grass anon, lets take a trip to elwynn and lay by the lake
>>580940539>hasn't this gone disastrously every single timeIt has. One realm is the only legit decision, because if possible players will create a 100% server for each of the factions.
>>580941064>Trade chat is just people selling boostsi agree with this being annoying. it's weird because it wasn't a thing in the past. but i remember being like 13 years old in TBC and begging guildmates to chain carry me through scarlet monastery and gnomer and stuff. i think people would sell runs, but the concept of paying gold to get carried was so ridiculous i don't think anyone really did it.then again, you'd see piles of bodies stacked up in orgrimmar spelling out the name of a gold buying site, and i don't think that happens any more.
>>580940161Use an alt like a normal human being. Whats wrong with you.
>>580933980Imbecilic post.What are you purging? Inner fire? Lmao>b b but groundingRank 1 swpHere's the reality though. You're gonna sit in a full fear while I drain all your mana and turn you into a green little cuck
>>580939215no, but maybe the beta will reveal good news
>>580934396That's cute cucky, but here's the thing, you retarded little shitter. You can't dodge or party from behind. Your shitty little talent is nullified by my wasd keys
>>580937559>>580937732Spirit bears(but they're a tanking spell and not a dps one)
So forever did kill retail and classic huh No wonder there is so much butthurt
errm do you think the collectors edition will come back in stock?
>>580939879That's what the sub is for, subhuman dog
>>580940000>Tanks will be more common now You are an actual honest to god imbecile. Double digit iq spit drizzling retard This hasn't worked with DK.It hasn't worked with monksIt hasn't worked with demon hunters.It doesn't even work when you bribe people to play tanks with extra goodie bagsEvery undead palagroid is gonna be jajajaja retard in doing no damage or a mentally stunted keyboard turning spell clicking healer
>>580940000checked
>>580943329never miss
>>580940738>I don't care if pakis and shitranians are able to shit up the gamePost hand abdul
>>580943510shit up what about the game, exactly?what's the thing they're depriving me of?
>>580940859A warrior is going to turn your little sissylock into his personal fleshlight.>Immune to fear>hamstring>Rapes you with a single crit
>>580943630Oh my goodness he's an actual moron and doesn't understand cause and effect.Where do you think the gold people use to buy boost comes from?
>>580943664>>580935932
>>580943837bots. do you think you get rid of fentanyl by arresting people for possession or by policing your borders?
>>580944036It's unreal how much of a troglodyte you are despite being so close to the answer.But yes, making possession a crime does in fact help combat drug related problems.
>>580945304wrong answer, hotshot.destroy the supply. retake econ 101.get rid of the bots, money supply dries up. boosties and gdkp goes away.targeting the demand is how you keep your job. targeting the supply is how you fix the problem.
>>580946331You can't destroy the supply. They pop up faster than you can remove them.You can only make it inconvenient for them, and also punish the ones enabling them, the buyers. Which is what they're doing.What a shame. You were THIS close to the truth
guys nixiem is not happy, what do we do
>>580946613>You can't destroy the supply. They pop up faster than you can remove them.of course you can. we're talking about a video game, not people making shake-and-bake out of lithium batteries and sudafed. if you think that it's impractical to run a big ass ML model to identify bot behavior and nuke it from orbit, you're smoking the shake-and-bake. absolutely, 100%, the most blatant 90% of bots could be decapitated with minimal effort. and that would solve the majority of the problem.
cant believe these toads are gonna get me to not only play wow again but spend money for the gay blue elvesim back in
>>580940021They said you're super limited in what you can choose and this only works for a limited ammount of stuff. And it's fucking reagents for portals not every single mat you're gonna use fucktard
>>580930770Have you autists considered forming parties?
>>580939819Because it's not a big deal.
>>580939819blizzard said they won't be adding expertise in the slideshow
