What's the point of the Dune Buggy? Edition>What is Wardogs?A planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad-like with 3 teams and 100 players, from the developers of such classic and beloved titles as Battlion and KillrunLaunch Trailer[YouTube] WARDOGS | Launch Trailer10 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogs[YouTube] WARDOGS | 10 Reasons NOT to BuyAnti-Cheat Info[YouTube] WARDOGS | The #1 Rule of Anti-CheatHelpful Links:https://wardogs.zone/Every Setting Benchmarkedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUc08Hf5XvMPrevious: >>580859126
I’d like a player count increase
wheres the dog
>>580981892Nice links retard (Me)Launch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo810 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4Anti-Cheat Infohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FA
back seat on dune buggy doesn't damage the vehicle with backblast when you fire a rocket. Pretty much the only vehicle that doesn't. ATV damages the driver.
Just bought the gameHow am I supposed to get driver XP now that everybody just flies everywhere?I don't have the Ural and don't trust myself enough to drive the APC because I know it'll just end up getting destroyed
>FOBs can only be built outside the CZ>walls/bunker can now be built without a fob>FOB drill is now a double sized pallet that must be delivered by Ural.Game is fixed
>>580982664deliver supplies in crates to fobswait in spawn for the APC to appear once a team reaches 20 points and drive it into the cz
>>580982664Deliver worthless crates with a truck.Just park the APC at a FOB.
>>580982664drive the APC, let it blow up who caresdrive it straight into the HZ
>>580982142That's actually pretty good info
i've been playing online videogames for almost 3 decades now so i have no illusion about the mental capacity of the average bing bing wahoo enjoyer but fuck me, it's insane how stupid the average player is nowadays. the dumbest fucking russian dota ape 15 years ago was still more intelligent than most of my team of randoms in Wardogs. i am having a good time for now since all my friends are playing and we can regularly play with 8-10 people who have 3 digit IQs but they will stop playing once the novelty wears off and this game will become completely unplayable for me. oh well.
So will Bremmer/Lossy actually get us a roadmap or will we just deal with communicates through twitter/discord I haven’t seen actual road maps it’s literally piecemeal between X, discord, and fucking PODCASTS.
>>580983037yeah I generally just treat them like AI players and it works out. If I need something done I just do it myself. I've tried to find people to play with but most people I find on the official discord are just looking to exploit shit for fast exp.
>>580983316lol lmao
>>580983316they said they didn't want to do a roadmap before the meta progression was in, and that's not coming till next year at the earliest unless there's a big change (Which would mean any roadmap they would have shared would be nulled anyway lol).Don't expect anything before next year.
>>580982664Just take the APC to the edge of the circle. The moment you enter the CZ get out. Somebody else will spawn on it and move it, but you still get all the xp for people spawning on it, surviving, and any assists for people that spawned
>>580983316I want to finger AK12's but hole
>>580983515Okay I understand progression and other things but delaying a roadmap too? I’m convinced the constant preemptive deflection regarding Steam player numbers was only put in place because they had to shit this game out fast
>>580984106The game has been indev for years, I don't know why people think this game was rushed, it's like 8 years in development, it's the least rushed thing they've ever made.The decision to not do a roadmap was deliberate because they didn't know what they needed to work on or fix, they clearly haven't been using their playtesters as playtesters, and are instead using the early access players as true scale prog and balance testing, hence this first wipe lasting only a month when they intend later ones to last up to 3 or even 4. They've also ALWAYS said they weren't doing any content additions till meta progression was in, that was never hidden at all in any way and it's not a shock or surprise.
>>580982664APC is super durable, anon. Just drive it and get the credit.
>>5809843418 YEARS?!
>>580984398They said wardogs was their "big idea" game when they started battalion in 2016, and they've been working on it since shortly before battalion's release in 2019, so 8 years is a safe assumption. 6 at the absolute latest.
>>580984341>>580983515Yeah okay another two weeks and I’m out. Ace Combat 8 and other games are a month away and that fact I’m getting wiped to? Ya I’ll see yall in 2028 they have lightning in a bottle and there is no way they will recapture this hype. I’m sure you guys will be fine with like 5k but that’s tone deaf. Especially their garbage communication.What I don’t get is I understand the game is EA but it’s very much treated like it “came out” the constant streamer engagement, a $100k clip event, it had multiple betas already and out of everything they toned progression down. Something really doesn’t feel right to me.
>>580985034I don’t wanna say it because I’ll get called an Indian but unfortunately the devs are fast and loose and have always been it’s just how they have a bigger fanbase to validate that attitude
>>580985034>it's very much treated like it came outit did come outit's treated that way because it did.the concept of "early access" does not mean what it did 10 years ago, if a game is out, it's out. Period. People will not suddenly treat a game differently because of a random arbitrary "1.0" label. Palworld still got hated by pokemon fans, valheim still had people complaining about it's lack of content and missed promises.Betas for games are the final release, demos are time trials.>>580985485no they're extremely egotistical. The launch day bullshit with the server queues proved that.>game is supposed to launch, queues are massive, but not significantly more than they faced during the open beta the weekend before>for some reason not working at all and people are stuck in queue and it's barely moving, when it does, it boots people out of queue, leaves a ghost, and resets them to the back>they claim it's valve rate limiting them (but they didn't rate limit them the week before for the test?)>Then, no, actually, it's a ddos>THEN we find out streamers are getting in perfectly fine with 0 issue>streamers have their own secret queue, it comes out, and this is a new introduction for launch, so it's not unrealistic to correlate that fact and say the streamer queue probably caused issues>the devs also said they "Weren't giving special treatment to streamers" in the months leading up to it in their guerilla style marketing, then did just thatthey really really fucked their launch up bad, the game still being under 80% positive reviews shows that.
i closed the game and im not joking i can still hear the drill alarm bueeeeeh bueeeeeh im going fucking insane from the drill spam
>>580985034Unironically 2-3 more weeks and then the honey moon ends too
>>580985485Bremmer is gonna crash out one of these days. The down to earth gimmick won’t last long.
>THE M249 HUMVEES WINDOWS ARE NOT BULLETPROOF AIEEEEEE
>>580986496That’s unfortunate
>>580986496>THE M249 HUMVEES WINDOWS ARE NOT BULLETPROOFThen is there any reason to buy it instead of the kodiak?
>>580987004the main body of the car is bulletproof, and the windows bounce 9mm and 556
>>580986670I didnt *USE* it yetI wanted to get shit done first, a SAM in good spot, then, maybe, some mortars hidden off to a sideNo fuck me, before I even placed my FOB down two trucks dropped their shit and I geuninely considered moving to fuck them over on the pallet cost. Some retarded faggot starts hammering hescos around the FOB for no fucking reasonANOTHER RETARD PUTS DOWN A MORTAR WHICH PULLS THE ATTENTION OF TWO ROCKET POD HELISthankfully I just finished my SAM in timeSOME FUCKING RETARD PUT TALL HESCOS AROUND IT AND A FUCKING BUKERKILL MEso yea they stole the fob and I left the server
I guess the move is to play until the first whipe and then never touch this game again. I wish FPSs had a longer lifespan, but nowadays devs are so spastic that there's no reason to stick around for any longer than their first tantrum when they accidentally stumble onto something half playable
>>580987667pretty much, yeah. the game is at it's absolute best, the best it will ever be, right now.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1867240/view/701027323413005176September 14th Patch Notes
>join new match, this time i only buy a rifle and a big bag to hold a fob>we head out and land at a tower>i can't pull out the fob, it just sits in my inventory>guys with hammer just standing and staring at me>drop the fob for someone else to deploy>suddenly the guy next to me dies, then me>enemy with crossbow is standing next to a container and picks us off >enemies grab the fob and place it themselves>leave match>next match i make sure to buy whatever clothing gear i need to actually get the fob in my quickbar>fly to a tower, arrive just behind enemy heli>of course i get shot and looted again>almost 20k out the window>quit game
>>580987880>leave matchanon, you counterattack and take it back, you idiot.
>>580987767>this is the best this game will ever beGod, modern shooters make me want to drink myself into a coma. I wish the mid 00s never ended.
>>580982702>the entirety of bakurani becomes a maze of layered hesco wallsWould be cancer and kino simultaneously
fuck anti air niggers
SAW > SKS
>>580985034It’s a pump and dump sadly. I like the game a lot but after two betas and this release I may have accidentally already burned myself out lol
>>580985034The wipes with the beta progression made sense but the nerfed xp gains with wipes is just bad
>respawn after a good run>hear two dudes arguing>"you fucking faggot why did you yell you gave away our position">"DUDE I HAD A 20K KIT">"I DONT GIVE A FUCK I WOULD HAVE DEFIBED YOU BUT I WAS SNEAKING ON THE GUY WHO KILLED YOU">"I HAD A 20K KIT FUCK YOU">as i deploy i hear them resorting to hard slurs>mfw
>>580981892>Dune Buggycheap grounded small squad transport that you can ditch that is extremely fast and controllable (has almost 0 drift)fuck I use it instead of the bobcat if i need to go somewhere solo
>>580989592what's its top speed? bobcat's 75 and that has always been enough for me if I'm doing something sneaky and need to gtfo fast.
>>580989236m249 fucks hard after you get the bipod. you can beam people 300 meters out no problem. i'm pretty sure when you get shot at you get some fucked up suppression effect too that makes it harder to snipe backkind of a weird playstyle though. you have to pick decent spots to lay down
>high magnification scopes aren't allowed to be used on anything other than sniper riflesit's like the devs are allergic to fun
>>580985034The game is a pump and dump with a slick marketing scheme.Cash wise the game is done. No update or support will make them more profit, 99% of the sales are done and there is no cash shop. For some reason people think this game will get years of support/content/updates when its glory day financially is over. This isnt fortnite or BF or CoD where they can keep updating and milking whales. Wipe will happen, player base will crater, those who stick around will say "its fine people will come back with updates", it'll bleed down to 5k with GTA/AC8/Other games.
>>580989672goes up to ~140
>>580989804oh that's pretty good, might have to give that a try in the firing range. thanks.
>>580989569They'll probably adjust the xp gains every season until they find a happy medium.As for wipes, they're a necessity. I dont want to play a game with a gorillion tanks and attack helis, thanks. Sorry you invested hundreds of hours over the course of a week playtime, get fucked nerds, just step away from the game, play something else, how is burnout even real on a 3 day old game lmao
>>580989784I love these zoomer coded doomposts.
>finally get to play hardcore servers>it's fucking awesomeNo kill cam and forced first-person vehicles is almost fuckin perfect. Now they just need to make spotting exclusive to squads and not team-wide
>>580989784arc raiders still has like 20K+ players and that game is a cheater infested dogshit game with no progression whatsoever, i do see wardogs being the next FOTM but i dont see it dropping to marathon levels
>>580990119>Now they just need to make spotting exclusive to squads and not team-wideThat would just lead to the whole team forming a megasquad, muting it, and using Discord
>>580982664Drive the APC in. If someone else takes it, C4 the APC and wait for it to respawn in base when no one is around. Your other options are 1. Slowly deliver crates for quite literally 50-100 games to unlock anything good or2. Spend $10k on gear+ammo for a LMG mounted car and have to solo man it because no one wants to gunner for you since it gives them the wrong XPThe games progression is literally backwards. The limiting factor should be money, not XP. XP should rise extremely fast, but paying for top tier stuff should be expensive.
playing this just makes me wish arma 3 koth wasn't dead
>>580990234you're out of your mind if you think randoms are joining a discord for a random hardcore servermost people can't even be fucked to join a squad already
>>580990176Arc has a cash shop. It will continue to get more updates than Wardogs because its financially incentivised.
>>580990341they're not joining with randoms people would just use external coordination instead of the built in
>>580989959I kinda um dropped near 30 hours on it already
Did you guys really buy this game with the expectation that you would play for more than a month? It's literally the definition of FOTM. Once the player count drops, rigid metas fall in to place, and players get through the progression, it's going to be about as much fun as pulling teeth.But that's ok. I'm going to get a hundred or two hours out, have a blast, and never touch it again.>But my $40!!You should probably be grinding IRL if that's not an inconsequential amount of money to spend for you.
>>580990427>guys hop in my discord so we can ping togetheryeah naw
>>580989236yes anon, a bipod does control a weapon's recoil for you, amazing discovery.
>>580989784>>580990390>This isnt fortnite or BF or CoD where they can keep updating and milking whales.This is from before your time, before live service became the norm, but multiplayer games of old survived for a long long time without 'milking.' You do not need this cash shop model to turn in a profit. There's a reason the base price is pretty high and is only going to go up.
The spawn vehicle is a bad idea and needs to go away.
>>580990087I'm 32. I've lived through enough games to know that if it doesn't have a financial incentive devs quickly lose interest in caring. The irony is your post is the zoomer one, glazing a product that objectively is just losing cash day after day now. They already abandoned a game rapidly when it lost its financial incentive and this one was a sugar hit.
>>580990505god yo'ure fucking retardedthey're not joining any randoms everthey solely use discord with their friendsthere's just one megasquad everyone is in so that you can see the recon/pings
>>580989959All it's really going to do is incentivize people to find a meta and cheese experience to get to the worthwhile items, we saw little bits of this with how every single match the first day of release was 95% spotters. People are already finding exploitative methods to pump support EXP to hit level 8 in one match (basically spamming FOB placements)
>>580989784>GTABecause of consoles/PC the userbase of this game is not the GTA base.
>>580990587and that would matter why? they already do that. you're simple
>>580990580Anon, you know you're a zoomer, right? '94? That's mid 90's, the marked start of the zoomers.
>>580990518This is before your time, but costs have increased, not decreased in game design. They cannot afford to sustain this product and its huge dev team without a financial incentive, and nearly all the sales are done for its life time (thats an objective fact provable by every game ever).
>>580990467Fuck yeah, I will. The game is going to change a lot, shits going to be fun. The resets aren't ideal, but that's the price for playing early. It's all good if they make a more permanent system in 1.0. Why the fuck do you even buy an early access title if you aren't feeling committed to ride the wave?
pushing the HZ is not profitable at all
>>580990514t. owned SKS noob
What I don’t understand is it like 1.5 million so where’s the other 500k online?
The spawn vehicle should be replaced with a spawn building that can be built at a FOB, and uses a new FOB supply that logicucks and bring in.And using the deployment computer at spawn should cost money
>>580990738>Didnt refute the actual point I accept your concession and look forward to your desperate pleads for people to care about Wardogs in 6 months.
>>580990907so... like a HAB from squad?why not add rally points also from squadmight make squads actually useful for once
>>580990907aren't you just describing foxhole
>>580990467>and players get through the progressionDont worry, they are going to wipe all progress in less than a month
>>580990765>nearly all the sales are done for its life timeWhat?That's not true at all, a ton of games have long tails. Factorio, GTA V, Minecraft, Elden Ring, Terraria, and, by far most importantly, Squad and ArmA both fall into this category too.
>>580990673Lol. Lmao. Rofl.
>>580990450i'm at 64>>58099058032 and no bitches crying about a game you don't play on the video game section of an anonymous anime forum what is the matter with you lad
>>580990936I wasn't arguing, just informing you that you're not different from the group you're trying to disparage. You're in that group.
>>580991082I'm already seeing players at 80+ WD level. It won't take a month for the players who you actually need to worry about.
>>580991098You're using exceptions to prove a rule. 99% of games have sales for one month then die off. Your better example would have been Rust by the way which also has wipes, but that game has a progression loop achievable in a day, not weeks like Wardogs.
>>580991269i played against a guy in an arty tank (lvl 90) on day three
>>580991313...you know Rust had a huge long tail, right?
>>580990897That's why nearly 400k people are on at literally all times. There's multiple time zones on the planet, and people are spread out across them.
>>580991141Glad you agree its a FOTM all I wanted from you.
what do you think happens next
Can we calm down it’s been a week
>>580984341When did they say the first wipe would only last a month?>t. 79 levels deep into the grind for artillery
i just want a planetside 2 style 1000+ player combined arms fps game, man
>>580991505bro I'm not even the same guy lmaofucking schizo out tho girl, you deserve it
>>580991413Your reading comprehension is dogshit anon.
>>580991525You eat ass.
>>580991558This is /vg/ culture. We have to do this to fit in with the board. I, personally, am already workshopping a local thread schizo persona."Mortarspic" has a good ring to it, I think.
>>580984341>weren't doing any content additions till meta progression was inMost people dont know this and it'll 100% kill the game. Everyone is expecting wipes to correlate to major content updates not wipes for minor meta progression changes.>first wipe>it was only a test period who cares, next wipe is in 3 months!>wipe>ok no new content, but you can unlock thinks faster anyway who cares!>wipe>ok its been 12 months and we're still using little birds and urals, but like the base game is fun who cares! Guys why is no one playing the same gameplay as at launch?
>>580991809>mortarspic>implying that's catchy enoughThis is a Blue player coded post, ignore it.
i turned off crosshairslook super weird with how it floats around when moving
>>580992116womanticore hands typed this post
>>580991809he is just a tourist form /V/ doubt he even bought the game he just doomposts, kinda boring and gay
>>580992331Red spaz detected, go chase the hot zone sheep careful not to use your brain
>>580991558I used to defend HD2 and the game took 6 months to go from endless potential to completely wasted product its healthier to just doom and be pleasantly surprised (you will not be all games disappoint eventually).
What if instead of Wardogs and chasing the hot zone it was Waranimegirls and they were chasing MY hot zone. By which I mean my peanits
>>580993273I don't understand anon, could you be a bit more specific?
>>580982016I don't really get posts like this, I had to scroll for ten seconds to get to a server that wasn't full in the weekend (eu)
>>580993737he's being facetious, anon
>>580993737>>580994150he's talking about wanting larger playercounts per server, like 150-200 players in a match
>hz on heavily fortified fob>teammate hops on the loudspeaker>starts reciting the navy seal copypasta>"... better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm--">gets headshotted
>>580994379I don't see why it's not 3 teams of 50 by default
https://youtu.be/73cKBa5_9Io?t=64wardogs wishes it had 1% the sovl of arma
>>580995007I don't believe you because I have never seen a recon ever shoot anything inside a fob
>>580995298It might have been a friendly, I didn't check. Lol.
These devs can't even make a six shot revolver actually hold six shots, why wouldn't I be doom posting?
>>580995286>gay physics bug because bohemia doesn't give a fuck>le sovlcringe posting is a punishable offense. 20 lashes
>>580994379Oh yeah, sorry I was retarded. I would also like that
>>580995709To be fair they are britbongs who picked schizo weapons It’s a Taurus judge
>>580995709>retard gets filtered by hud elements
>>580981892this game is like tarkov in that if you haven't been grinding the moment the new wipe started you are at a severe disadvantage against people who have. I'm sure this will go over very well with the dad gamer population
>>580996386Yeah, but that's the thing, they list it having six shots and the taurus does in fact have six round models.>>580996648That's even more embarrassing for the devs than them fucking up which round count/model they want to use.
monkey's paw where this game gets more updates and content but the devs become swedish
>join match>lopsided loss in progress>leave>join match>lopsided loss in progress>leave>join match>lopsided loss in progress>leave
>>580996971>That's even more embarrassing for the devsplease elaborate on this
>>580997237he doesn't understand you have the chamber icon as well as the 'mag' count and thinks it's an oversight and not a choice.
>>580997213Yeah pretty much eevry server you join unless it's brand new (difficult if it's full because it will already be underway, obviously) will have this issue, just suck it up and do some light weight work. Logi, scouting, etc. Get a feel for which of the teams is best, then join that one next match.
>>580997213join one with 85 or fewer players and it'll be one that's starting
>add the taurus judge>don't give it the ability to fire .410 shotshellsare they stupid?
>>580997237If they just decided to go with a five round model of the judge last minute and didn't update their in game model and description, well, woopty doo, easily corrected in a patch. If they didn't then their ammo count system can't properly account for weapons with multiple chambers or don't chamber in the conventional sense.>>580997302No, I still think its a choice, its just a choice that inherently causes oversights which makes them retarded.
i would like russian monke tanks please thank you
hearing the sound of a chopper exploding on spawn always makes me laugh
>>580997932>SCHWINK>Geegrgrgrgrgrgr>PRKRSHHHHH>"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
>>580998032
>>580998132>"I'M DYIN HERE">$500 bribe
>>580997932>still in buy menu>hear explosion>everyone turns around to look
>>580997932i've been taking a cap every time i see someone explode their team. gonna make a compilation soon kek
>>580997179brits have the same 3 month christmas vacation so winter is going to be rough
This game stimulates all the wrong types of behaviour, it's like some deranged social experiment to see if monkeys will chase xp or do what they're supposed to be doing.
>unload entire magazine>guy lives because t3 armordamn, my employed ass is already falling behind
>>580998843uhhhh just smg his legs, chud
that's me in the t3 my nigga don't shoot at me again
>>580998843Yeah I couldn't play this weekend until today and the effects are noticeable.
>>580995007I had one teammate do a good beevis and butthead impression. Loudspeakers are soul
>>580998983i'm calling my guy SKS Stephen he'll deal with you in a minute
>>580990765Jesus christ dude. You're talking so far out of your ass it's almost unreal. You can stop to pretend to understand the financial situation. >Set base price high (especially for an early access title)>Use the funds from early access to fund 1.0>Raise the praise when you do hit 1.0>Marketing campaign>Get more sales (coming to consoles /crossplay, remember?)>Introduce long term monitisation (not sure yet what form, talks about a premium sub or battlepass system have been made but nothing has been decided)>Earn enough money for maintenance and sporadic little updates like a map or 2, weapons, gear to keep things freshThis is all paraphrased from the dev's mouths themselves. The only wrong they can do is now overinvest in additional devs in an attempt to squeeze out 1.0 faster and blow through the money they've gained now too fast. To oversimplify it, they've created a piggy bank that'll take them to 1.0 and beyond if they manage it right.
>>580999147no problem for SAWsamuel (it's me, i'm SAWsamuel)
>>580997213Prime time to set up a mortar fob, ya little bitch boy
>>580996828The dads have been driving trucks all weekend, they're good
>>580990765>what are console "gamers">what are 1.0 hype riders
>>580999202Spoilers: They won't manage it right.
>>580996828it's not going to go over well with anyone. the dorks that spent all that time grinding and getting easy wins shitting on players with no equipment will eventually stop once they only face others like them
It's over...
>>580982068Should I stick with the smaller batteries for the defib or spring for the bigger ones and just use a bigger backpack? I want to roleplay as a proper support medic and just unlocked the defibs so now I can pack in a bunch more of the tier 2 meds.
>finally get the mosin>line up a headshot mid range on a guy who doesn't see me>does like 80 damage because he's got a t3 helmet>he turns around and kills my t1 armored ass before i can cycle another roundthis is clearly my fault for not grinding 60 hours already. skill issue
>>580999781This is just the beginning.
Is it intentional that things like RPGs and MAAWs do no damage to structures? Or like, 5-10%? Really feels kind of lame to HAVE to bring IEDs or c4.
>>580999927pretty sure the tooltips say it's for vehicles
>>580999285stephen is a student of the ancient chinese technique of Aim Bot. watch yourself samuel.
>>580999871regular battery (the kind that comes preloaded in defibs) does 4 revives before needing to be replaced. takes up 1 inv slot.High cap batteries do 10 revives, and take up 2 inv slots.I usually bring one high cap, and the default battery stays in. The odds of you needing to revive 5+ people at a moment's notice is quite low.
>>580999875yesand good luck continuing to level combat classes while behind, because combat is mainly how you will do so!
>>581000039yeah but it's still a fucking explosion, is my point.
doomers OUT
>>581000507doomchads run this shit nigga. take your bushmaster before i whip out my big brown sks over your cheeks lil bro
>>581000090Ideally I would think to bring as many meds as I have charges so if I bring a defib thst already comes with 4 charges and a single large battery that adds 10 thats 14 so I should bring 7 stacks of tier 2 meds thst give a full heal from a revive? I guess with 7 stacks of meds, a 2 slot for the spare battery, 2 1x3 smg mags and a 1x2 stack of extra ammo thats like at least 17 slots for a backpack. The 2400$ backpack only has like 3 extra slots but costs double the 1200$ backpack that has like 21 slots it seems so silly.
>>581000507Doomerfags are just looking for (You)sRefuse to engage with them and they'll leave
>go in with nothing but parachute>run around and somehow sneak up behind an enemy sniper>he turns and looks at me as I'm slow walking to him>stop>he asks what I'm doing>mfw
so how many weeks until they add a new premium currency you can buy with real money?the games entire infrastructure is built around it
>match starts>spawn lmg kodiak with a friend and drive in>red team took a helicopter straight to a tower on our side of the map and starts setting up a fob before anyone else gets there>we get there before their gates are up and just drive around killing them>they bitch and cry in prox chat as if we were doing something faggy or exploitativeI will never understand the people that think the game revolves around them
Hey tankfags how's your congaline goin? I got my MAAWs ready for you whenever you put those 60 logi hours in
>>581001026I would expect you'd be able to pay for a permanent unlock (doesn't cost cash anymore) for guns on a per season basis
>need to double my xp for three levels
>>581000696Being pragmatic you will need more than 1:1 revive/med. Until you get the med bag for heal over times, anyway. People will get hit and be scared to move when they have under 30 hp, so filling up the extra with meds won't hurt, BUT, you're also assuming you'll live that entire time. I usually get 5-6 revives in a life if I'm with an assault group, so I do 4 stacks of the full heals (1 revive + 1 heal is usually in the realm of 5k, which is a LOT of money, and very easy to go to profit shortly after).
>>581001291I just hit level 20 support myself, level 15 driver, I'm debating whether I want to continue just to get to tank for like a day or two by the end of the season. It would PROBABLY be worth it because they say tehy're tracking exp already for the skill trees, but at the same time, I don't really care that much, and I could go for medic and suring up my other skills to get to 90 for arty, that one I can definitely do by this weekend.
>>581001026It's already in the works
>>581001423Im hoping that if I constantly buy the most heavy armor I can wear and play it safe with smokes it will increase my survivability. I usually have around 4 smokes on me. Im debating dropping down to only.1 backup mag and just being more pragmatic on stuffing the backup when its empty to fit more utility.
>a single 40mm grenade takes up the same amount of space as a maaws roundwhy even add the grenade launcher to the game when you're clearly so afraid of it actually being good that you preemptively gut it this much
>>581001396
>>581001716nigga did you just aislop this right now
>>581002016>nigga did you just aislop this right nowWell I had to have the AI redo it after its first draft said "CONFIDENTIAL - LEAKED SLIDE" in the top right
>>581002016the fact it got basic phrasing (ARPPU>Apru) wrong should be an excellent example.also ARPPU for a f2p game is $25-30. For a paid game it's between $10-15, lmao.
>>581001396and then you double it again to get to level 20
>>580999781>WestFaggot.
how is this faggotry allowed? why is there not a limit on the amount of players per team? why is there 3 teams even? 2 teams 50 each solve this issue, just have limits if one team is bigger than the other, fucking faggot devs man
>>581003558that people in the CZ, double points if they're in the HZ
>>581003558based retard
>>581003558There is a limit (33, and the spread can never be more than 2 above the lowest, so if one team has 6, no other team can have more than 8). go play the tutorial again you retard.If you're in the hot zone, each player counts for 2, THAT is what that number is.
>>581003705>33
>>581004137okay 34, frenchman.
>>581003705the limit is actually 34two teams are allowed to have 34 players btw, so most matches end up with 34 players on green and red with 32 on blue
>>581004317surely this is the only reason blue loses
>>581000768lold
>>581003558bluest post i've ever seen
>>580993273GFL collab when? The Vector is already in the game and we can get the HK416, UMP SMG's Springfield, honestly we're spoiled for choice
any 4chan servers?
>>581005470at $130/mo for some nigger to show up and ESP? no.
gold is down to 2mil BUY NOW
We need to redeem blue
>>581005728aye aye sir, buying 400 drones right now
>30 guys rush a tower>not one of them bought a FOB
>>580982016There's 100 players per match yet I barely see anybody, even FOB/HZ fighting barely has people and feels like 16v16. Where the fuck is everybody, are they bots afking or something?
>>581007656There's usually 10 people at each team's megafob, 5-10 people doing transport (logi or taxi), and then the remainder are scattered around the map, sometimes chasing hz, sometimes just walking.
The more I play and the more I find out about the plans devs have for the game the more I think that Bulkhead are made up of 4-5 absolute wizards of marketing who could make a fortune selling sand to desert countries or snow to russia and then 50-100 niggertarded faggot subhuman inbreds that should be shot in the back of the head 25 times while being filmed and the videos mailed to their families
>>581007894Bob the Builder mfs spend all game building a megafob and one guy kills them all and it gets stolen. Useless, dogshit cuck players
>>581007894I've begun fantasizing about a full team that quickly FOBs up on a flank, forms up, and gets a 33-man raid going on whatever tower needs blowing up. I know it'll never happen, but it's a nice thought.
>build 4 drills>cycle between them to keep the hotzone permanently at your basethis game has been solved
>>581001291I saw my first tank artillery last night, spotted it while my friend brought some C4 and blew it up. Not sure how much the vehicle cost but I was awarded 18k for spotter assist and he was awarded 24k for destroying it. Will definitely keep my eyes peeled for future armor as it seems like an easy payday.
>>581008965If you want to be more efficient, you start building after you're nearing completion of the first one's zone, this way they can't mortar them all at once, and the cd is only the 10 seconds for a fresh build instead of the 10-15 minutes.
>say the game is bad on steam>this is how my profile comments look like nowwhat the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
>>581009214I'm convinced that every new game release has a swarm of bots released to shit talk anyone who has anything bad to say. Not by the devs, but by third parties who want to the poison the well on anything gaming related and make everyone miserable USAID style.
>>581008965>sets up a single mortar pit in the middle of nowhere>destroys your entire faggot drill baseNow what.
>>581009214what did you say about the game exactly?
>>581009214"did you just say the game is bad? YOURE A VIRGIN!"how is this fucking real?
fuck anti air niggers fuck em fuck these pieces of shit
>04-91-97>blue activates a drill at the absolute last second to stop green from winning, giving the win to red
>decide to give driving a chance>spend the entire match just delivering pallets while listening to some tunes>we win>we were blueSo I was the one lowering blue's winrate by actively playing the game, huh?
>>581009214go to the negative reviews and check the comments on those with 40+ replies. enjoy losing your hope in gaymers
>60 hours in the game, 30 in the beta>just now realized you can press shift while you're ADS'dwtf
>>581010172Your flares sir?
>>581009851...
>>581007656>>581007894It should be 50 per team.
>get some lads together (8 of us) to build a megafort autism fob>not even in the zone, just a random spot way on the edge of the map>teammates losing their marbles screaming at us to get in the control zone
Can someone spoonfeed how the base mechanics, towers, drills(?) actually work? The tutorial explains literally nothing about that.
>>581011249click 'how to play' under the shooting range button
>>581011249>base mechanicsbuy fob, set up fob, now you can build in that square.Bring "building materials" to the laptop interactable with the fob, right click, you deposit into the base.>build materialsfor building/repairing>fuel materialsfuel for refueling stations (rarely used) or drill rigs (very common)>Ammo materialsall weapons use this with the exception of the stingray.>MEchanical partsmeant for repair station (rarely used) or stingrays, drones. 900 mechanical parts + 5000 dollars is ONE drone.towers are a point of interest, some are active some are inactive, decided when the map is generated each round. After 10(?) minutes, they activate and you can capture them. Capture enough and you'll start to see numbers that form a code. Input that code, the hot zone is pulled to you.Drill rigs are a buildable object with a large hammer that have the hotzone pulling effect of towers, but they use fuel resources (up to 6000 per instance).
The same people who always cry about SBMM are the ones crying about the progression system because apparently it's not fair having to play against some neet who already has the best vehicles and gear unlocked because he doesn't have a job or life to go back to.
>>581005728I wonder how low it will get. devs want 30 gold to be achievable in 30 days but still hard enough to acquire that people with the season 1 skin get bragging rights
You don't even need to look for incoming AA, just listen for it and flare the moment you hear it and you will always be safe
>>581011684The hotzone is the yellow circle, right? In the last game, none of the teams seemed to be paying attention to it and were just attacking each others structures.
>>581011684The refueling and repair stations will be common by the end of the season when the tank and humvee meta emerges
>>581012232I've only used aa missiles once. Any tips on how to blow helos up/fool pilots?
>no less than 8 littlebird pilots parked at base waiting for passengers>2 blackhawks ferrying supplies>4 urals doing god knows what>12 bob the builders doing literally nothing>6 cucks leveling up recon by hiding in bushes on edge of zone all spotting the same helicopter all gameI am losing my fucking mind.
>>581012526Green team?
>Start of the match>See thisAlways get a chuckle
>>581012414Doubtful. Refuel stations MAYBE, repair, no way. drill+high cap batteries are like 8x as fast, and if you get damaged you will not have time to go to a fob.>>581012339yes. Generally no one pays attention to it, until it gets pulled to a fob, because there's no point. If it's out in the middle of nowhere and then gets pulled with a group of people on it, they now have to fucking hoof it to where it moved to, and if that's an enemy base, they're liable to just get shot down before they get near it, chasing after the HZ is pointless after the score reaches 20 on one team and half the items open up.>>581012496If you mean the SAMs/stingers, you'll make most pilots panic because they're inexperience if you just hold the lock on them. As soon as they fire their flares, let it rip and you're likely to get the kill. Some will be more experienced and will wait to see the trail of smoke from the missile before they pop flares, not much you can do against them but try to coordinte cause the time between flares is roughly the same as the reload on your SAM.
>>581012526That's what happens when you make any actual combat the most high risk, low reward option possible for players. Even the few people who try to play partisan and raid trucks and bases and the like usually shit themselves and have a fit if anyone pops out of their truck and kills them with a cheapo ghetto blaster
you should earn cash passively tired of spending 8k on a kit then dying in 3min every time
>>581012775Thanks, lad
>>581012747Why is it always blues?
>>581012775oh yeah worth mentioning, default flare stock for helis is 2. They can buy more, I think the inventories for most helos is 12 total (so theoretically 12 if they don't have rockets/ammo/anything else in their inv), but it's rare to see more than 4 at once. So if you have the ammo resources at your fob, let the bitches rip and make them waste their flares. Even if you don't get the kill you're forcing them to return to base. Ammo is way way less valuable than a helo.
>>581013017Just do logi and build like everyone else. This isn't a game you're meant to actually play the objective in. Its Eurotruck Simulator with random encounters.
At some point a guy's gonna go crazy fobbing all the time. Which is why I've now dedicated my time to always going negative in income for the true prize of seethe, setting up ambushes a breath from enemy HQ with my buddy
>>581012526They need to make any combat action (kills, assists, revives/revive asists, heals/heal assists, etc) more meaningful and more rewarding so you don't have 10 bob the builder niggers in one fob contributing nothing of value because those niggers can't shoot worth a damn. Like imagine being a bob the builder nigger with 10 others all dying to 1 or 2 enemy players because they can't shoot and having the fob/tower stolen. Holy shit, actual useless faggots.
What servers do you play on in europe if you don't want germans or russians?
>>581013402if one of you get to 25 support, AT mines are absolutely fucking beautiful on those thin bridges that everyone seems to love to cross. Bonus points when their exploded charred twisted metal contraption becomes another roadblack they have to navigate around (and into your other placed mines).You can also do a fob underneath the bridge then hedgehog the bridge for a similar purpose to nail with rockets.
>>581012747>arrive at fob>not a single fob laptop has been boughtalso a laugh
is every games discussion page like this?its like somebody insulted their deviantart sonic oc
Anyone in EU wants to teamup for not so sweaty shenanigans like fucking up enemy supply routes with a Suv or a Humvee ?
>>581011684Can you spoonfeed how to do recon without the lame sniper rifle? what other recon skills are there besides sniping
>drop in as infantry medic>use defib to heal 2 large batteries worth of teammates>barely break even>spawn in at the beggining of a match with nothing but a large hammer >hit the x for 10 minutes>make 30k with 0 effortI fucking hate FOBggots but at the same time I totally get why they do it, the game economy is so broken that its the only 0 risk choice
>>581013576hedgehogs don't need a fob in order to be built btw
They should 5x the cost of mortar shells its genuinely awful being in that awful perma mortar cycle >build FOB up >mortar start raining on our FOB >dont have enough time to range in counter battery fire>FOB gets perma mortar'd for the next 15 minutes >nobody can do anything
>>581013773sitting in a bush with a $75 pair of binoculars absolutely incomemogs fob building
>>581013746the "specialty" item (tertiary slot) will aid you in some way for all the skills listed. For recon, that's the spotting tools. You start with binos which are flat 4x(?) zoom, you hold it on an enemy, you mark them, they show up on yours and your teams' minimaps (and your mortar's/artillery's reticle displays). You eventually get a monocular which has variable zoom (2x-6x) then a rangefinder (2x-6x, PLUS rangefinding capabilities, really useful if you intend to actually snipe), and then finally you get an IR finder tool, which lets you spot people sitting in bushes or through trees if you're in a forested environment. ALL of those tools functionally do the same thing: letting you mark. You mark, you get exp for marking (and some money). If someone kills or destroys something you marked (base object, vehicle, heli, person, whatever), you get a portion of what would have been the kill money, and more recon exp. So generally recon's early levels (up to 5 when you get the SKS) is mostly spotting shit.
>>581013593steam discussion users are not human and are closer to cockroaches than anything
>>581013604I want to try this but with Verbas (hand-held lock on AA), but need 16 support to unlock. What's the fastest/cheapest way to level up support?
Are the helicopter flight mechanics completely retarded, or was the Chinese name pilot literally flying it like a no-clip camera hacking?
>>581013791I genuinely never even tried to build shit without a fob, good to know. how fast do they decay?
>>581013223they are battlefield players. blueberries.
>>581014179Mortaring/Building for sure.
>>581014179build, or use mortars/aa that osmeone else built.building is slow but steady money and experience. grab a ural, double up on build pallets and a fob, go set up on the edge of the cz, drop your fob, drop your pallets, deposit them, start building CIWS or drill rig. Once it's done, dismantle (or just start building another one). You can do this at your main fob if you want but people will get mad at you for "Wasting resources".
>>581014035It absolutely does not Building a fob from the beginning of the round is top 3 for income generation, with 1st being using the minigun heli and 2nd being driving the respawn vehicle in teams that are losing badly
>>581014019I love setting up mobile mortar fobs and ruining bob the builder's day. Nothing better than blind firing in the general vicinity of an enemy fob and watching the cash explode like I hit the lottery as players/vehicles/buildings fill up my kill feed.
>>581014179>What's the fastest/cheapest way to level up support?building, repairing vehicles, delivering supplies, getting kills with shotguns, launchers, machineguns or stingray drones all gives support xp
>>581013017You do? Cash starts trickling in the moment you step into the big circle, more when you enter the HZ. Aside from that, just being present when a drill is actived is a passive cash bonus.
>GUYS WE NEED TO TAKE THE TOWER FOB NOOOOOOOW >WE CAN'T JUST SET UP ANOTHER ONE TO REGROUP AND PREPARE A RETAKE >JUST KEEP THROWING BODIES FOREVER AIEEEEEEEEhow do we rape and kill self-assigned team commanders
>>581015051>rape fellow soldiersHello Russia
They should add more buildings. I don't care what they do i just want to build more things.Also more mine variety.
>>580999202NTA but this is the financial information literally given by the Bulkhead CEO Joe Brammer and the lead director on a podcast. They claim its just theoretical or an example but thats up to you to decide. Is Joe dumb enough to publish his company financials and expenditures on some fat fuck streamers podcast? Who knows. But heres the rundown.If they sell 1 million copies, thats enough to pay back the publisher, and the investors and leave 1.5 million for ongoing expenditures, which would last until about June. There are some caveats of course. This does not take into account continuous sales past 1 million, and it also does not include the extra money from the supporter DLC which did sell quite a lot. On the other hand, these calculations also severely underestimated the active user population (only 75k peak) while we've had minimum 300k peaks even now on a weekday, however this will obviously decrease.But in the end I do agree, they made a shitload of money, and unless they do something absolutely retarded they should have enough to coast until 1.0.
>>581015427I'm not sure what they can add in terms of mines that wouldn't just feel redundant. Also frankly I have yet to kill an enemy with a claymore, but I've sure killed dozens of teammates who don't see the gigantic icon on their map.
>>581015183it's called tradition you fucking racist pidor((
>>581015427this game's a mix of other games. add the sims into the mix. build closets to hide inside. build chairs and sit. build a tv. build a whiteboard to write slurs on. give me some random bullshit to fill space with
>>580991525*click*
>>581014458minigun heli doesn't make shit. 7k for the bird, 750 per flare, and like 2k for ammo every time. you need to average like 6 kills just to break even
>>581016153Why are you going for kills? Go fob hunting, destroy shit as it's being built, it's literally 1 bullet = 10% damage on a drill rig if it's not complete, you can destroy it and make $2000 in TEN bullets.Kills are just icing.If you're getting got by SAM, stop flying so high.
>>581015929Simply add the entire Tarkov hideout system. In-match only, of course. The per player hideout shit menu game is fucking cancer.
>>580999871you are locked to default battery in the defib when you buy it, so use that one firstbut for extras, unlike mags that get less efficient with capacity, batteries get morethe big battery takes 2x space, 2x money, but holds 2.5x charge
>>581014019Yeah mortar and SAM ammo usage needs to be tripled and doing anything in the hot zone should also give triple the reward that it does now (not just passive but every action) and then maybe there will be a real balance between playstyles instead of just three way mortarniggery 24/7
How do you fire 3 mortars at once?
>>581000696just yoink meds off bodies, safe revives get bandages, FAKs are for when you gotta be quick
>>581010771I mean they're not wrongthe deciding factor is how many bodies are stacked in a zone. Unless you were shelling and droning the fuck out of other bases, you kinda were being useless.
>>581016519press R and wait. shoot. press C. shoot. press C. shoot. press C. press R and wait
Is there a limit to how many fobs you can place. Can you do a 3x3 super fob.
I think we all just play this game wrong and try to act like drafted soldiers fighting for their country, but in fact we should be like the merchant guild and stay alive as long as possible, and direct confrontation should be a last resort.Going to pick lonestar to do this on purpose
>>581017018Yes, but they all have separate resources. But fobs can basically touch, there's only like a 2-3 meter minimum space between.
>>581017018no but you need to line them up properly to prevent gaps since there's an overlap prevention mechanic
I was doing some testing in the shooting range, mostly seeing how and where to shoot trucks for a guaranteed kill. And then I found out that the minigun humvee literally has no aiming reticle or crosshair or anything. You just have to spray and pray. It shoots fast and .308 should tear through armor, and you never have to reload. But still, why would you not just use the m249 instead.
They should set the game in winter and make you use fuel to run heaters to not freeze to death.Long dark player btw
>>581017509I'm interested to see if they do a winter map at some point, I'd enjoy the shit out of that. Offwhite outfits for all the groups would be cool.
>>581017509They should add eating and drinking and you starve to death every 40 seconds unless you eat a big boy dinner.
I love the game but I almost feel compelled to be infantry because there really aren't enough infantry players. Most players I see are doing weird recon shit just standing around sniping from towers or wherever the fuck. OR it is the FOBbers doing whatever. I think the one step the game is missing is that it is non-existent to get supplies to the front line where infantry is. Nobody air drops supplies like bandages or rez masks. Nobody drops ammo on infantry etc. So there is a huge chunk of logistical possibility not happening. So all the "logistic" bullshit is just happening in the FOB and staying in the FOB. So I have to be infantry otherwise a already sparse roll becomes even more sparse
>>581017708Yeah this. If my logi truck blows up before I can deliver snacks to the boys I want the kill feed to start filling with starvation and thirst deaths that I know are the fault of my failure.
Why is there no dynamic weather? no rain? Why no night?
>>581014458Delivering the apc only rewards you for 10 minutes so you only get the deployment bonus once per person until it blows up and you drive it in again. If a team is losing badly then they aren't likely to get any kills so you won't get many of those assists either.
>>581017509I just want comfy snow maps
>>581017782Become logistic infantry.
What is the most Jihadi loadout you can give me? Hard Mode: Keep it at or under 8k cost
>>581017782The issue is created by the players not doing it, just as you said.I tried to ask who needed loose ammo or medkits or quickrez in the field, and got 0 responses for 3 minutes until someone said "lol we just pick it up from the guys we kill why would we want to pay?"and I've never tried again.
They should make this game more like foxhole.
The T-21 is pretty good when you load it with attachments.
>>581018251"no"
any pilot bros help me out here?is there a setting I'm missing to lock camera right behind heli?trying out a flight stick and the camera's annoying
>>581018090Actually, I hadn't really thought of that. What might that look like? Would you just follow around infantry with a SUV with a bunch of shit in it?
>>581018160MAAWS (or rpg) + full backpack of biggest size of ammo, and one IED.
>>581001291Lvl 22 driver here, life is pain. Either you deliver pallets nonstop or you have to rely on a vehicle gunner who may or may not have a brain or working eyes.
>>581018160glock. scout pack. IEDs. no armor. go wild
>>581018195In my experience a match never lasts long enough for a proper frontline to form and for ammo to become an issue. So yea, bringing loose ammo is pointless. Grenades sell well though
>>581017782>Nobody air drops supplies like bandages or rez masks. Nobody drops ammo on infantry etc.no one does this because most of the time no one buys any of it and it's a huge waste of moneyif you say what you need in chat i'll always be willing to run it over
>>581018324You're beginning to understand you can just do things like that.
>>581007894Thats why you build a cheap drill fob specifically designed to pull the circle o your mega fob so you force the fob builders into actually contributing.
>>581009851he's a canadian. not surprising
>>581018576I wonder if actually buying and carrying the signal smokes would help more. I never considered that as infantry. I thought it was just FOB shitter stuff. I think there is a colored smoke for ammo or something right?
Vehicle 3rd person is hilariously bullshit with a Humvee. Spawn in, rush the enemy side, drive up to a wall and enjoy the free info while telling your bud where to shoot
>>581014019Endless mortar retardation will stop as people get better at and unlock its counters. Give it another week for people to have the arty and havoc unlocked. Good players will shut down mortar fobs with them before they have a chance to really get going, especially if its one of those matches where the score hits 20 like five minutes in.
>>580998843its going to be much MUCH worsethis weekend will be a bloodbath and I expect most gamerdads to drop the game
>>581018771it just says "supplies requested" on the map, it's not specific enough to be useful for anything other than fob shit
>>581018795yes it hilariously busted. Good luck changing it though, battledads will defend keeping it in the game guaranteed
>>581018949I already saw artillery in 3 matches today.
>>581014065>snipers camp outside the CZ and never equip the spotting scopeIt all makes sense now.
>>581019205that's the rub, you get a bonus for marking then confirming your own kill, a pretty significant EXP bump (up to nearly 400 from 250), and like 500 extra cash. I get sometimes it's a shot you have to take but most of the time they just give up on it.
>>581018075Have you played the game? Everything is fucking placeholder. You got two guns.
>>581019065I played Battlefield since BF1942. Vehicles should never had had third person view.
hardcore servers have first person ONLY vehicles, btw. 99% of people are afraid to use helis because they don't actually know how to fly.
I just want to shoot people with a rifle but I feel like I picked the wrong game
>>581019065I've never felt so safe speeding through the hotzone. Nobody has AP. You can just see everyone and murk them when you hop out for a second. Fucking wacky
>>581018576>no one does this because most of the time no one buys any of it and it's a huge waste of money Exactly thisPilots will drop a crate full of random bullshit at a 75% markup that no one ever buys and the crate blocks the FOB. But in the beta I unlocked the tank and I would request shells and machinegun ammo and they would actually deliver.
>>581019686you can, the issue is to truly get to "shoot people with rifle" levels where you deal more than like 15 damage a shot, you need a FAL.
>>581019686grind the SKS and 3x scope then steal the free truck and drive right up to enemy lines. this is how i get my high octane gameplay
>regular shooter aiming at the head is ideal>in milsim oriented shooters aiming at the nuts is idealim still not used to this
>2 round burst, laser rifle>3 round burst, barrel points at the sky>right click>wait for animation to finish>shoot once>enemy spins around and shoots 10 rounds into me in 0.00001 secondswhat the fuck is this gunplay?also at least 50% of the bullets straight up dont register
>>581012414I wish people would build repair stations. Everytime I see a mortar fob I ask them to build a repair station so I don't have to go all the way to base for fuel or quick repairs. Only happened like twice now and those mortar fobs were very well protected. Absolutely shut down three attempts on one of them. The rest oh well. Too busy farming enemy fobs/the hz to help if you don't help me.
>>581019904Are you checking the hit log? You can hit for literally 5 damage if they have good armor.
>>581019685my concern though is that they will balance vehicles around having access to third person. If they do, vehicles could be nerfed to the point where they become useless in hardcore servers
>>581019904I think the servers are like 32tick, the amount of times I click, hear the gun discharge, and check the damage log to see fucking NOTHING is too high to be anything else. Now my aim is shit so I'd understand if it was at distance but I'm talking shotgun + buckshot in a tight corridor. not a single pellet hits? come onnnnn.
>>581019881milsims can't simulate head protection by way of protecting you from concussions and a little shrapnel so enjoy your scifi gundanium helmets that can bounce off 12.7mm
>>581020036because then they have to bring mechanical parts which are useless in 99.999999999999999999999999999% of situations, and no logi is bringing mechanical parts because they make extra money from assists if they bring ammo, but mechanical parts for repair don't give them any bonus (they do for stingrays but obviously that's not what we're talking about)
>>581019904Check logs. I often hit headshots and neckshots and sometimes land five bullets yet still do ~50dmg because they have good armor. It is what it is. On the flipside, if you kill them you can take it.
>>581020036You'd think people would build a couple considering how many times they like to stuff the APC in the tower of fobbel
>>581020036I've seen exactly one so far. A couple refuel stations though. I think people will start building them together>>581020213Once vehicles start dominating we'll see a lot more drones, meaning more mech parts. We probably need to wait for a vehicle with a niche between humvee and MBT for that to really take off though
>>581020146Headshots making up the majority of deaths would exactly represent reality either.
>>581020036You have to ask in chat. If I’m fob building I would build one but I wouldn’t be able to keep it supplied with mech.
>>581020367APC goes down in one hit to anything that's aiming for it. What are you gonna repair, the exploded husk? >>581020424I disagree, fuel stations at most, repair just isn't viable, bring a fucking drill. Faster, less expensive. In fact you MAKE money, versus losing it at a repair station. AND you can go park in a forest to repair instead of in a fob that can just get arty struck.
>EU community server>"eng & mic"!>nobody has micsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE IT HERE
>>581020046>>581020062>see guy standing still 3m in front of me>shoot him 3 times in the back with the SKS>he starts turning around while i keep shooting>he double taps me the second in his fov>1 hit registeredon a 30ms serverthis shit sucks
>>581020557I've just had a number of games where only the radar was gone but literally nobody could figure out how to use wrenches or repair drills, so, just a thought
>roll up to firefight in a railyard>throw ten grenades in the general direction of the enemies>get killsthing's underrated for whatever reason
>>581020213I'd gladly ferry in mech nonstop before 20 to keep it supplied for a long while if people built em.>>581020474>Everytime I see a mortar fob I ask them to build a repair station>>581020557Normally I do land and drill repair, but there are a good amount of times where one team and occasionally both teams go full bob the builder autist with aa and I have to stay on top of it nonstop to prevent it from becoming a problem.Repair/refuels would help so much with that.
>>581020557It's not just about speed. If you're going back to a fob to refuel then getting repairs at the same time just makes sense. And you will not always want to get out to repair if the fob is under attack. They are situationally useful but the situation isn't too farfetched
>>581012414>>581016457>>581018949What ARE mortar counters outside of maybe wrangling some dude into a little bird to simply look around for the fob
>>581021627build mortar to counter in barebones fob setup outside of your tower (because they'll destroy it instantly in the sustained shelling otherwise) then nuke them. Or artillery because it's out of range of mortars.
>>581021627Recon class. It's their job to assassinate fob campers. They just don't do it.
>>581021960>builds concrete wall on top of hesco block in your pathlmaosnipers are just completely worthless outside of perimeter defense on a tower fob.
>>581021627Most people are retards and build their fobs on near towers and mortarfags already know how to dial in on those locations quickly. You counter them by dropping a job by some trees in the middle of nowhere, building your own mortar and going crazy. The real counter is rocket helis but the fake pilots that infest this game are only interested in being an air uber to make number go up.
This game would be better if the three teams were wildly asymmetrical. Someone wake me up when a alien vs predator/ natural selection style of this game comes out.
As a infantry loadout, would you value a better helmet or better body armor? I am poor as fuck but I enjoy being infantry. Was trying to figure out what I should forego to save a bit of money. I am hitting like 10k cost for what I consider a "average" loadout which seems extreme because I am likely to die. Most of the time that is without weapon attachments too.
>>581022476they've come out and failed literally every time because it's not fun.
>>581022496Neither get it off their body
>>581022496I would recommend you take a couple matches to stack some cash, honestly. Try doing logistics or building, something you haven't experienced too much, to get a better feel for the game overall. This is literally the wipe to fuck around and try random bullshit to see what you enjoy.That said they're both critical, level 2 armor is all you need though. 3 is too much.What does your average backpack look like? I have a sniper shotgun loadout I use with large hammer (if building) or defibs (always get them but sometimes they're primary tertiary item, sometimes just in my bag):>pump shotgun (+ 2.5x scope + second angled foregrip [from like 17 or 18 supp])>slugs, 48 in bag>no secondary cause they gay>tertiary hammer or defibs>items 1 highcap, free quickrez, 4 medkits (2 stacks)>level 2 helmet, armor, large tac vest (can get away with medium with these, I tend to grab nades and bandies and a rangefinder if I manage though)>24 slot bag>sport chuteRuns about 16k with hammer, just under 15k without. Works amazingly in any environment, anywhere.If you want to procure on site, your weapon of choice is the double barrel + buckshot. Just about anything short of level 4 will go down with two blasts at close range. bring your free quickrez and the $0 bag, double barrel + buckshot is like under 1k. Then as the other anon said, kill someone, grab their kit, snowball.Shotguns are really really good but they won't be soon. Take advantage.
>>581022496Just use an SKS. Buying anything else aside from maybe a backpack is just wasting your money when its so easy to two tap someone with one and take their shit.
What if there was a thing that everyone could pool their money into and if everyone adds enough they purchase a nuke that goes off and kills everyone, destroy all vehicles and player buildings, and reset all three scores to 0 while adding random patches of radiation to the playing area.
>>581022496If you’re thinking about skimping on a kit just go in with the $0 AR, the free revive kit and a stack of bandages. Then hang back until you find your real kit Stalingrad style.
can a wartranny explain this to me?
>>581023516>reset the score back to 0 I’ve already had a three hour game where everyone was 65+ points please no
>>581023740They should add no score limit servers that only reset once every 24 hours so you can play games that almost never end.
>>581023516It would cause all employed people in the match to quitThe wagie nuke
>>581023740Three hours is too short. I want matches to go on for DAYS. DAYS dammit. I want to drop in to a server and have the fight still going. I want player attrition to be a meaningful mechanic.I want first person modern foxhole.
You did get the achievement... right anon?
>>581008362it's entirely reasonable that could happen, and that experience will likely come from a community server
>>581024198Sure did, I'm missing 100k in one loadout (not too hard I just haven't really remembered to do it mid-match, I'm too busy rushing to set up fobs at start then reacting), 60min in cz (I want to work on recon pretty soon so I'll just get it then), ricochet (this one feels like luck but I can probably get it with an SMG on the new map), and then win a match clean sweep which I think I'll need to do on a community server with trades.
the fuck. how do i get those large crates that you can just unload on one try? i can't for the life of me do another flying heli. i completely suck at at that
AA seems pretty random
>>581024895You mean pallets? They're on a separate tab of the logistics buy menu
>>580985929this was happening to me in the shower a few minutes ago some real mkultra shit
>>581024895the pallets?For helis you can't do them on the little bird, only the lakota/huey. When buying item, click logistics then pallet, pic related.>>581024910AA is one of the few things that's pretty rigid in how it works, what are you having trouble with?
>>581023947>>581024117This will never happen because the servers absolutely could not handle it. I've watched my truck glitch halfway into the ground, ive watched cars start to drift and flail around like a stuck gmod ragdoll, ive watched helicopters desync and the controls lock up and they fly straight into the ground. Ffs, if you do the hammer trick and build certain things too quickly, they literally get bugged and you have to wait 5 seconds for the server to catch up with the completed structure.There is absolutely no way for them to have long running games because the server infrastructure would collapse in on itself like a black hole.
>>581025078don't think so. people are wrong, it's not just flare after missile is out or not
>>581025457Don't think so what?And no, it isn't, the flares 'deflect' the rocket's lockon. If you fire as soon as they start letting off flares and they're too close, you're still going to lose that rocket. They have a low cooldown so there's a sweetspot of distance as well, and if they're too far out they'll pretty much have enough flares to wait you out.You want to hold a lock on them to try and scare them into wasting flares, but not everyone falls for that. Most people at this point have figured out that you wait for the rocket to pop off, THEN hit flares, it gives you the best chance of safety.
>>5810241984 more to go
>sweatlord neets get armor that turns them into tanks while wageslaves get slaughtered like lambs with basic armorHorrific game design.
>>581026907kneecap sweatlords, anon
>>581026907>get HP>shoot their toes with a FAL>explode them with 106 damage on lvl4
does anyone have a guide on helicopter landings? I can fly okay, I can do high speed turns, thread alright, but when I try to land, I always seem to nose up to kill forward speed, then nose down so I don't start flying backwards, but it's never fast enough, and I'm ALWAYS going too fast no matter what and explode. Spent like an hour in the firing range to no avail.
>1st round>nobody wants to pilot>10+ guys standing around spawn>2nd round>10+ littlebirds
cant wait to be a good support slut
>>581027565Come to a stop before trying to land. Then make tiny adjustments to get to where you want to be. There is a lag between tilting the rotor and actually moving, do not wait for the helicopter to start moving, just tilt the rotor then level it out again.Use mouse control.
>earn far more from logi runs in my Ural or being a close support medic than actually fighting >Try to do more frontline stuff>Get shat on immediately I know familiarly will help with this but I'm really not the faster shooter any more. Is it still useful to have someone who doesn't push the point but moves in to revive those that do?
>Pick green because been on red and blue all night long>20+ giant clan joined green>Refuse to build FOB>Red and Blue humvee kept harassing logi and FoB builder>They won't help>Kept staying in hotzone>Blue eventually build 2 super FoBs>Call in hotzone with drill for the rest of the match>Have no answer to the drill because no mortars due to no FoB>Lost hard to Blue despite 40 points advantage at the start for hotzone fightingBeen seeing this kind of play from big clans where they do hotzone fights only until the enemy team built a super FoB and no one had an answer to it.
>>581028679I am using mouse control, and I do come to a stop, but that's not viable in a battlefield, I've seen people pull nose-ups then roll to lower speed, which I can manage (usually) but then as soon as I make adjustments to try and aim for my landing zone, I pick all that speed back up and shoot from like 50 km/h back to 180 and I crash.
>>581027275>implying wagies have unlocked the FALlol, lmao even
>>581028810You gotta build stealth mortarfobs. Either use a website or do the math in your head and you can instantly blow their drills with a 3 round burst. Even if they have 4x, they won't be able to find you and stop you before you can blow their shit out
>>581028810It's the best way to level assault. Won't get that as a fob the builder. That silenced M4 with 60 round mags ain't gonna unlock itself.
>>581028760Infantry is incredibly expensive and only worth it once you got high unlocks with better armor and weapons.If you joined late, you're at a massive disadvantage because everyone else have weapons that can beam you down from 200+ meters while being able to shrug off hits from your early guns. So if you want to do infantry stuff then just stick to your team, and steal enemy gears.Just go with no armor with starting AR, get the rest of your gear by scavenging dead bodies.
No idea how this pile of shit managed to climb its rating on steam all the way to 81%>dogshit performance3080, 32gb, i9 @ 3440x1440 and im still dropping below 60fps with constant stuters at low settings, GPU is not even close to 90%+ usage>logistics metadelivery, build and mortar monkies make 10x what infantry makes with almost no investment and no risk. Meanwhile infantry bleeds money having to adopt sweaty playstyle just for a fraction of a reward and all the riskit is so bad that sometimes half a team is doing this money farming bullshit and they wonder why it's they have 5 points 40 minutes into the game>takes ages to unlock anything and you are expected to do this shit over and over again with the wipes>no balancegood luck to anyone who starts playing few weeks into the wipe>fundamentally unbalanced teamsyou play blue only because you lost latancy check>abysmal helicopter controlsmost people give up on combat pilot role and those few who keep going get so fucking good that there is noone to challange them in the air and they can win a match singlehandedlyMy favorite role is recon but this is such an uphill battle that I can't do this shit anymore>can't take advante of a hot zone>sniper rifiles are worse ARs and take 2 head shots to kill,, even an SVD which takes ages to unlock and is useless upclose>takes ages to unlock viable items>takes at least 10k to start a life>you have to run long distances and risk getting raped by a guy in the bush/building>you are supposed to stand still so people do not find you out>but if you stand still, enemy recon will spot you with his finder and drop you with 1 shotMUCH FUN, at least euro truck simulator players are having fun
>>581029307I tried building a stealth FoB several times but there was 3 humvees patrolling the backline even outside control zone.
>>581029437>3440x1440>representing the <0.05% of potential reviewsgee I wonder
>>581026907>Horrific game designSounds like SBMM was the way to go all along
I have joined the upper echelons
>>581028760First off, backline medic doesn't really work since any space your team concedes WILL be taken by the enemy. Pushing in after someone goes down is just asking to get baited into death. The only way to be a truly effective medic is to be on the front. At minimum, smokes and fast rez.Armour and good guns make a difference, but so does good positioning and crosshair placement. Just play slow and hold corners for your team. Free guns can still kill people, especially if you spot them first.
>>581029603This game is unoptimized, what is so hard to understand? Maybe if you play at poorfag 1080p you dont notice that but ive played much prettier games with no issues
am i blind or is there no loadout function in this game?buy-last is nice but i want to make different one-click loadouts.
>>581030104why is it so hard for you to understand that your higher resolution settings are only representative of a very small fraction while you're complaining about the reviews climbing despite not handling higher specs? ask grok to tl;dr what I just wrote if its too much for you to understand, maybe draw a graph
>got cash to burn by doing heli logi only last match>decide to go fuck around with humvee and rpg>driving in no man land looking for fobs or anything to harass>see enemy heli has been spotted>its parked on a bridge far north of that bazerati whatever name of map is>drive up to bridge>two lonetards building a fob on the bridge >blast heli with rpg and gun down both of them>hack their fob>grab one of their hammers to try seal the fob>instantly booted back to main menu>no warning massages or anythingNo idea why that happened. Did they mass report me for thinking i was map hacking or something?
>>581029437>>dogshit performance100+ fps maxed out graphics on a several year old system at 1440p, zero stuttering, fast loading, on my machine.
>>581030451Loadout is a coming soon feature in the main menu.
>>581028860it sounds like you're just moving too much desu, adjustments shouldn't be picking up that much speed (and you shouldn't be landing at 50km/hs until you know what you're doing). practice getting to 0km/hs after a j-hook as quick as you can, don't even worry about landing until you can consistently come to a hover close to where you want to land
>>581030541The system detected fun and acted accordingly.
>>581029437this shit skin is still at it? LMAO
>>581029437Skill issue. Also>delivery, build and mortar monkies make 10x what infantry makes with almost no investment and no riskYeah, they're making money they can only invest in the support unlocks. Why are you mad at this? Infantry may bleed money, but they're actually unlocking the good guns.>takes ages to unlock anything and you are expected to do this shit over and over again with the wipesThis is your only legitimate complain, the wipes are a terrible idea.
>>581030715My issue is no matter what I do to stop, or slow down either leaves me a sitting duck for an RPG (going nose up), or if I try to J hook by rolling, yaw does NOT reduce my speed like it does for literally every video I've ever seen showcasing it, I just start turning and then my roll completes and I eat shit upside down.
>M4 countersnipes me from 400 meters awayAnd I thought BF6 weapons are beamy lmao
>>581030771No fun allowed it is.
>>581030806People play these low stakes roles just so they can play infantry and not worry about cash, these unlocks do not matter to themBesides how does it change the fact that you are very likely not making your investment back as infantry?Also, these fun unlocks cost money, only putting you more in the red
>>581016308how the FUCK do you get kills with heli minigun? I changed control settings, turned off assists and this fucking recticle still wobbles like fuck. That is if you even can spot people on the ground
>>581031275Maybe I'm just autistic but going from 500k to 0 by unlocking shit and making money back is fun. Some of my most profitable matches as infantry only has been going in naked with binos and gearing up as I come across backpacks. Rarely do I make a profit if I spend 15k+ on a proper kit myself.
I love how for a 20k investment I can get untold profits lobbing random mortars into bases. With only 2 pallets of ammo I was able to take out 4 drills, lots of mortars and vehicles, lots of players, and invoke endless butthurt in chat about how broken mortars are.
>>581032187if your team is even 1% decent and actually mark shit, mortaring is SO busted.
>>581032187Because they are broken and only niggers use them
they need to make it 1 shell at a time and add the artillery minigame to it. I don't understand why it doesn't have that by default.
>>581030957you shouldn't be nose up for long enough to be a sitting duck, the j-hook should be killing almost all your speed in one motion and you can level out extremely quickly. it sounds like you're panicking and overcorrecting, make small inputs after the j-hook and trust in newton's third law to do most of the work. otoh if you're flipping upside down you might need to be correcting your roll morealso, try turning off the flight assists in the settings, some of them fuck with your yaw/roll. i leave auto-hover and stability on but the other two hurt more than they help
What if mortars and SAM got the drone treatment of having to pay for each shell/rocket?
>>581030104I run 4k max settings at 120fps so git gud
>>581032447t. fob cuck
Clanfags are so fucking gay and bad. When I see a bunch of clanners on the same team they always get shit on.
Crazy that partisan is a game winning strat and yet its incredibly underpaid.Building a stealth AA base as well as having Humvees patrolling logi trucks and killing their APCs on the way to the front kills all enemy momentums but you get paid chump change compared to fobbits and logis
>>580992803never buy swedenigger games because they will betray their own game design to pander to retards for "muh publicity" is the moral of the story
>Guy crashes heli at spawn>Rando: "Can't park there mate"I kek'd
>>581029437>3080, 32 gb, i9 @3440x1440Yeah with that measly setup you might need to just run the game on Potato Mode, sorry dude
>>581032337Spotting is optional. There are only a handful of options where enemy fobs can be and all it takes to know is lobbing a recon shot to find out.
Can the devs just make the map open up on the center of the CZ instead of your current position, which we already know because of the fucking minimap
>>581034268How much is the pay bonus if you win? An extra $800?
I'd really like a bike for my solo recon runs. Don't they use bikes in the army?
does this game have progress wipes?
>>580989725At the rate im going ill unlock the bipod 3 days before wipe
Kill fobbits. Shoot fobbits with your gun. Melee fobbits. Run fobbits over with a truck. Defibrillate healthy fobbits. Strike fobbits with a construction hammer. Land helicopters on fobbits. Launch mortars at fobbits. Open doors and let enemies kill fobbits. Drop pallets on fobbits. Steal hammers from downed fobbits. Total Fobbit Death.
>>581037125Around 10K and I make around 50-60k profit doing partisan humvee work.Haven't unlocked stinger yet so I can be a mobile AA partisan when I do unlock it
feels like being a late joiner is incredibly punishinglose every engagement because they got better weapons and tanky as shit with level 3 armors.no anti tanks while theres a humvee demolishing the hotzone and i cant build bases because no hammer unlocks :(
>>581039491You’re at the mercy of your team for easy support xp starting out. Try asking for someone running helis to put a large hammer in a crate for you.
>>581026907holy shit the TTK from an SMG to kill them just went from 0.25s to 0.75s it's over
>>581029437>delivery, build and mortar monkies make 10x what infantry makes with almost no investment and no riskskill issue
this game needs dailies
>>581041396No
>>581041396Kill yourself immediately.
how the fuck do I make the humvee gunner not complete ass
Before they fuck around with what unlocks when during wipes they need to add way more items. Their design philosophy around recon would not work at all if there was a non shit gun at the start.
PLAY THE MOTHERFUCKING GAME
>>581029437>32GB in 2026Us poorfags, am I right?
I'm genuinely shocked how drastically the game has changed in just a matter of one weekend. Like, actually in awe. As an infantry rifle player, there's practically no game at all now. You guys weren't kidding when you said 80% of the team just camps in the FOB and does nothing but build walls. It's actually fucking insane, you can't even interact with the HZ anymore in most games.And now that people have unlocked the one shot sniper, it's just run around and get meshed randomly simulator. Man, is this really what their vision was?
>having a great game, its about to end in just a few ticks>kicked from lobby with no explanation givenI'm actually choked, what the hell. This was on an official server too
>>581038387just played a match where i camped a bunch of manticore bobs. ended up with 20 kills just sitting here shooting into their fob. i ran out of ammo kek
>>581042238They are, and you aren't. They are playing the only objective that matters: make money.
What the fuck the games $33 now and I can’t return it since I have 30 hours
>>581041396We'll get them in the form of betting/parley. You set your own goals or "dailies" and bet on being able to complete them in the next match. With payout on completing them or losing your betting amount if you fail to complete them. This is one of several options they are planning for ways to spend your cash on. Another one is your cache where you can store guns and equipment that carries over to next season, I believe that's what the black market thing is about. They'll probably have a daily or weekly rotation on the black market to buy guns or whatever and you can store them in cache for use whenever you want, current season or next.
haha six seven
>>581032528Because the mortar emplacement has a maximum range of 650m which is almost nothing, meaning you are almost always in range of a counter mortar. While the SPG can be 2.5 miles away shelling uncontested.
>>581043165in a month this game is going to be counterbattery and tank rollouts with attack choppers and infantry is gonna suck shit
>>581042340i doubt they had a vision, they just threw together what was popular without any idea how it would come together. most of their money clearly went into marketing
>>581042340They tested it themselves and didn't have their own internal test teams have 10-12 FOBBITs doing nothing all game every game.
The drill and mortars were not good ideas. The game would be so much more interesting without them.
>>581042501they are not making any fucking moneywhere did this myth of "logi and building makes money" came fromit fucking doesnt
>finally unlock big armored crate>its trucking time >it cant be fast unloaded into fob....no wonder I haven't seen one in game yet. how do i grind driver levels? I had some luck with buggy its better for picking up hitchhikers Humvee probably works even better and can drop off a crate on the way to HZ.
>>581046329buggy its better for picking up hitchhikers than suv, Humvee*
>>581042501Nigga, they're out of killing, spotting and mortar range of everything. They're making minimum wage out there
>>581045103mortars should have to be zeroed properly and the camera shouldnt follow the fucking shells
>>581046202i got 2nd place earner yesterday close to 200k just trucking shit to fob and getting assists from niggas killing shit from it until some faggot fresh off some xp farm server brought an artillery tank into the game and started shelling it from the other side of the map
>>581046679>the camera shouldn't follow the fucking shellsNah. That's what makes it fun
>first game>be aware green/red usually wins>join blueI've done absolutely nothing, but I figured out you have to scroll down to get the revive prompt
>>581046861doing trial and error watching the camera until it gets to where you wanted isnt funid much rather communicate with my bros spotting and twist a dial and instantly see results than that retardation
>>581047096how can you tell they're feeding you bullshit if you get no results?
>>581046859>getting assists from niggas killing shit from itHow does that work?I've trucked in ammo and build nearly every match at the start and never gotten an assist. Does it need to be ammo only and after they've got mortars up and running?
>>581047310no idea desu i was trucking all kinds of shit not just ammo. started with building supplies/fuel/mechanical then did some ammo then started weaving mechanical/ammo/fuel as necessary
>>581047653How long into the match is it that you start noticing? I guess I've really never trucked more than 3 times at the start
>>581047283if they aren't correctly telling me how many degrees off I am then they arent getting my support and its not my problem and ill find someone else who can
people wearing [CHUD] clantag teamkilling
>>581047723about half way, and only if the fob is actually doing work dispensing uavs/mortars/aa/whateverit's a lottery desu but if you hit it then its low risk high reward
>>581046329>how do i grind driver levels?Deliver APC to the CZ.Deliver pallets with the ural.
>>581047837you sound like someone who should stick to text based RPG
>>581048105you sound like someone who should stick to cowadooty
>>581047990It's also immensely boring. Kinda comfy but boring
Finally got Level 2 protection boys, hope I can make it to level 3 protection before wipe
>>581048141never once played any cowadoty, im glad you're delusional and dismissive
kek unlucky
>>581048204tahts true but when the numbers start rolling in and you get 10-20k dollars in one burst from some guy in the fob who downed a fully loaded blackhawk and another guy who hit a clump of bobs with a mortar around the same time its based
What do you even do when you're stuck with retarded team that does nothing and you're at the 3rd place?Partisan?
>>581048345Perhaps you should start? Sounds like you will enjoy it immensely
>>581048545load a vehicle up with stingers and go to a hillside between the enemy bases and the big circle and start harassing their choppers for laughs
>>581048584listen man, you're the one complaining about the game which should result you in switching
They really need to like double or triple the player limitLogi just eats up way too many people between fobbits and truckersYou can run halfway across the zone and not see anyone most of the timeA ton of the issues like infantry being so high risk, small supply crates being an absolute scam for both ends, one bad fob being the game breaker, and so on would also be alleviated
>>581048545jump into friendly helicopters and remove their flares
>>581048545interference
>>581048545either stingers full of kodiak to kill helis or grab a buggy with RPGs and start becoming truckers nightmare.FYI: APC will ALWAYS spawn when a team reaches 20 points. You can 2 tap APCs with RPGs and APCs are always alone on the way to the front.Do what you will with that information.
>>581048875>sitting in FOB reduces income by 80%fixed the game thank me later
>>58104909570 IQ response
WHY THE FUCK DO TEAMS ALWAYS SET UP 500 FOBS WHATS THE POINT JUST USE ONE AND MAKE IT GOOD AND DEFEND IT
>>581049242the other guys didnt build it right
>>581049242>you need ALL eggs in one basket
After 5 matches of just doing partisans. It's fucking amazing of people don't give a fuck about protecting logis or helis on route to CZ.I was blocking the road with MG kodiak and nobody ever tried to stop us. Literally fucking free kills. No one will bother hunting partisans outside CZ because it barely gives money and you're going to lose control on CZ for it
>>581049242Because winning is a very poor incentive the way it's set up. You get zero profit or XP for repairing FOBs, and a small multiplier for winning the game. If you go build an entirely new FOB that doesn't have a drill or mortar quickly it has zero threat profile, and you can farm points and XP like mad just spamming buildings without worrying about fucking up something functional.
Playerbase is really sleeping when it comes to FoB locations. 95% of the teams just place them in the same towers every single time. Mortarproof FoBs with solid roofs are really strong
>>581049242it is foolish fox who builds den with only one hole, grasshopper
>>581049242The fob options for blue on this map are pretty bad. Only good one is the bottom most one inside the brick warehouse and even that one is terrible.
>>581049906But you can't mortar out so what's the point?
>>581050229There are some places where you get to have a roof and since the FoB radius is pretty large build outside of it for mortars
>>581049242megafob is shitmore fobs with just a couple things in them is betterbut people are too fucking retarded to just see a fob with a drill, SAM and a mortar spread out nicely and just leave it the fuck alone
>>581049906Had a guy malding the entire game after he built a fuck whole base nobody asked for at the tower opposite of our own side, just for the enemy to kill him and take it over.Then he threw a bitch fit that nobody ran logistics for him despite me hauling materials to him since he had the only FOB up on the map.
>choked a 35 point lead>had 98 points
You should get fucking autokicked if you're outside the CZ for more than 5 minutes. Fuck logi guys, they're mostly just delivering pallets to a FOB with 8000 supplies already.
>>581050423destroying the FOB itself is a waste of your timeif you have mortar advantage anyway just farm the tower dummies
>>581047283There is a giant target circle that shows on the map where your last mortar/artillery/drone hit. You could use that for adjusting your aim if there were no follow camera. I haven't found a hardcore server that is not not empty or seeding so i haven't been able to confirm if hardcore mode disable the follow camera.
>>581047310If you are the last player to deposit ammo into a fob, you get paid for everything the mortars/rockets/drones hit. But if other faggots are depositing ammo after you, then they get it. This also works with depositing 1 small ammo supply from your backpack. Make do with this information as you will.
>>581052000>enter CWIS>blast flag pole of enemy fobs>free cash I will keep saying this, rooftop or top of tower fobs is maximum retardation.
>>581051606Then partisan bros would get hit and they're infinitely far more useful to the team than logibros
>>581053130True actually but maybe it could be reset if you deal damage to an enemy or their vehicle
>>581052943>enter CWIS>rain down death into enemy fob for the rest of the match
partisan DEEZ NUTSokay but reallyhow do you do partisan things? sounds funis it doable as solo
>>581052794Any other tips for getting cash, xp and fun?I assume this >>581049060 was you as well. I completely overlooked ambushing the apc on its way out
>>581053202>Spend 4 minutes 55 seconds looking for target>Spot logi truck>Kicked while you're shouldering your rpg
>>581053409You bring stingers too because there's more helis than trucks
>>581053328>play each faction>note the common route logi/apc take for each faction>get small vehicle to get to spots>bring anti vehicle>proceed to grief
does rifle gameplay get better when I unlock the vertical grip at lvl 11? If this thing doesn't make a difference I think I may tap out, these rifles just feel really shitty
>green starts off with such a successful rape start that blue and red sign a formal alliance to 2v1>still win
>>581054314The first actually viable rifle is the AK. The TAR-21 is only useable with a mountain of attachments. The one you're going for will help a good deal, but I dunno if it will be exactly a huge change up for you, running infantry fucking sucks in this game.
are fixed wing aircraft with required takeoffs and landings from airstrips planned?
>>581055618Canned. They made them then didnt think they were fun.
>>581042340Unlocking the mosin nagant was such a nice feeling. Even better with the suppressor. Headshotting people all day for easy cash.
>carry ammo to fob with truck back and forth to level driver>30 mins later there's nobody left in fob>oh well better get on the mortar and get some kills>absolutely demolish the green main fob, end up top earner I don't get why people leave mortars empty
Why does the RPG feel so inconsistent i was doing some partisan bullshit and it takes 3 RPGs to kill a ural???? What's the point, I just gave up in the end and just sat waiting with my galil to shoot the drivers out instead which worked far better
>>581057349i sat on a mortar for 10 seconds and didnt know how to aim it so i didnt touch one again
>>581058124you input your desired range and direction, thats it
I have no desire to play knowing they're wiping us in two weeks. What a shit idea.
>>581057945it's not inconsistent it just fucking sucksit literally does not one shot anything on a direct hit to my knowledge, including a fucking person
>>581057945Someone here mentioned how you need a 90 degree angle for full damage from the rpg. The maaws has a bigger degree angle for doing full damage.
>spot blue spawn vic heading to zone>guy parks just outside zones and jumps out of vic>kill him>blue keeps dropping waves of guys to try and get it back>keep killing them before they can land near it
reading through this thread makes me think i shouldn't buy it. is anyone having fun?
>>581059081Sort of. Its a fun idea executed badly. The devs themselves dont know what the game is or how it'll work.
>>581059081it's the best edgelord shooty military game on the market right now, but it's still in beta, and the jury is out on whether the devs are going to make the game better or worse, but it is half the price of Battlefield 6
>>581059303>betanah this is an alpha
Everybody is using voice chat, even enemies are using proximity chat to call each other slurs. I haven't heard people use voice chat in a game in years. It feels like I'm back in a 2000's multiplayer video game.
>>581059729no matchmaking and no consolefags is bliss
>>581059729The amount of slurs I've heard in the past few days over this game is actually very refreshing. Not in the like ooh edgy boy wants to say edgy words sense but just in the sense of people not walking on eggshells trying not to get banned for saying anything.
The armoured ural is a fucking deathtrap mobile. You can fit as many people as can stand in the back and instantly flood the hot zone or a fob. Fish in a barrel if anyone with a gun can see into the back though so don't be retarded like we were and assume you'll have enough guns to hit everything you drive past.
What's the best/easiest to use sniper with the least drop-off if I'm shit and can't aim? Or does spotting give more XP? I just want to unlock the claymores and spam them
>>581060246Also note there are no seatbelts.
best way to grind support xp when i dont have the heavy hammer yet?
The full auto glock with 50 round mag is a murder beast up close. No need to ads. Just aim general direction of chest if AP or legs if HP.
>>581061052equip a small hammer, run behind someone with a large hammer, hit anything they put downdo deliveriesuse mortars
ill take it. some [SAND] clan built a giant fucking maze base in one of the steel plants and almost the whole team was in there. 4 drills. got breaches a few times and we got lots of kills. fun match.
>buy C4>run at enemy fobIt really shouldn't be this easy
Whats the goto for pilot xp?is it only passenger deployment and kills with heli weapons?on the bright side, I've gotten much better at first person view and minigun kills
>>581061893delivering shit to fobs gives xp too
>>581061052Buy one ammo supply and put it into a mortar fob. Every kill mortars/AA/CIWS gets for a few minutes will give you support xp. Look for urals and helicopters dropping crates and unload them Look for crates on the ground that have building or ammo supplies in them and put them in the fobAsk someone in a mortar pit for them to build you your own mortar pit to use or jump on one that nobody’s inAsk in chat for someone to drop you a crate with a large hammer in it, worked for me several times when someone was running supplies with a little bird
>>581061730>that fluoride stare from all the builders as you effortlessly gun them down
niggertarded devs need to remove snipers and if you disagree you're niggertarded too
I remember battlebit had a similar problem. What is it with the psychosexual obsession with long and miserable grinds for gear that smaller devs for large scale shooters have? A scientist should study this.
>>581062080one day I'll become the head of my own game dev studio and make the first multiplayer fps in human history with no sniper rifles.
>0/0/70>ally team NEVER leaves fob>grab a hammer and start deconstructing everything i canyeah you're not griefing me for free
Fuark, mosin with the 3-6x variable scope is so nice.
>>581062070If I wasn’t playing lonestar I’d think it was collusion activity when I watched someone let a 249 humvee drive into my newly completed double gated fob and if it wasn’t for me killing the gunner and shooting out his tires we would’ve went that entire match without a fob.
>>581061989I thought that was only support xp?
>>581062473you get pilot/driver xp when you drop off the supplies and support xp when someone deposits them
>>581062473The act of deploying a pallet or crate into a fob zone gives driver or piloting xp. The act of unloading a pallet or putting supplies into the fob inventory gives support.
I really wish the FoB loudspeakers had more range. I want the entire attacking enemy army to hear me shittalk them. On the same note, i wish we could buy handheld megaphones to shout into
Mad at fobs?Do this.Easy way into any fob.
>>581024012>the wagie nukeJEJ
>no money for breaking APC antennas>no money for popping humvee's tires
I'm not griefing, I've reached acceptance. Clearly there is no amount of deaths that will make all the minecrafters in my team realize they've built a death trap that gets harassed by every artillery and rocket pod heli on the mapHow many C4 do I need to destroy a fob in one go and how much money do I lose for breaking friendly fob?
>join red>theyre sub 40iq>join blue>theyre sub 40iqguess i'll try joining green next game so i can curse them with retardation
>>581064172Based if you were in the nogunz little birdCringe if you had guns
where you guys playing at?
>>581049242>Top FOBCompletely useless, built by retards who cannot possibly conceive building a FOB somewhere not on the tower, even if the random zone placememt puts your teams usual tower in the middle of the zone>Second from top FOBSupport FOB with mortars for the normal Tower FOB, completely useless here because of zone placement, will get shelled from every angle by every team.>Bottom two FOBsActually useful FOBs with drills that are closest to homebase and easy for trucks to deliver toThere you go anon
>>581055618>>581056198I feel like smaller prop planes could be really fun. Like a Cessna 208 or Cessna Caravan for dropping jumpers or crates out of and they would be about as fast as the Blackhawk and could land on improvised dirt strips.
>>581064494You could also mount missiles or MGs on them, there are caravans with missiles mounted irl I'm pretty sure.
>>581049535This is something I was thinking about. I understand why you get less cash and xp outside of the CZ. You don't want people building bases 50m outside of spawn and just resupplying for XP. But it ends up fucking up assymetrical warfare tactics like sabotaging roads or taking out air traffic in the enemys sphere of influence.
>>581060246>>581060436this looks funny as fuck
>>581049535>multiple friendly helicopters die to AA fob>i fly around to find out hwere he is at>mark the exact coordinates of where he is and say THERE IS AN AA FOB WATCHING OUT ROUTE FROM MAIN>10 minutes later>its still there, racking up helicopter kills like nothing as more helis pass>logi trucks just driving right by>load up on c4, buy a quad, and just go blow him up myselfIt is actually insane how much people will ignore enemies ambushing the main supply route
>>581057945I did some testing in the firing range. The rpg can one shot a truck, but you need to hit it right in the door and its difficult, especially on a moving target. The Carl Gustav or MAAWS can hit anywhere on the side of the truck cab for a 1 hit. If you're still struggling, aim for the tires with the first rocket. With a completely destroyed tire the truck should be immobilised, then hit it again or wait for the driver to jump out and shoot him.
>>581059729>Driving over unaware snipers, clueless FOBbits and anyone who doesnt look both ways and getting called every slur in the book
Why does green win every single game I get into?
Just wall of green kill after green kill
>>581062917BF2 strats are back, baby!
>184ms>that many killsliterally how
>>581019685>hardcore servers have first person ONLY vehicles, btw.legit cant pilot in 3rd person, it's cursed as fuck. dont know how anyone does it.
>>581062917>>581065339I forgot to mention the secret ingredient>Hide 8 C4 on the Humvee>If you get surrounded and they shoot out your tires>BoomInstant slurs
>>581065736
this is 100% ai right?
>score about to hit 20>half the entire team camping the APC spawn trying to get the cash from it
>>581066189No? Why would it be AI if they have the assets to make it for real?
What the most efficient way for me to make money with the large crates? Put everything into the fob myself i assume? Ive never "bought" anything out of my own crates before, it doesnt acrually charge me money to take the items out right?
>>581065778same, flying in this game is pretty satisfying. high skill ceiling.
>>581066905The only times I ever saw people using crates is >I fly over to artillery and drop him shells and fuel>I drop a box full of resuscitators on a FOB that teammates are fighting over
Got killed by a Twitch streamer again, I hate those guys
>>581067120Large crates hold 1750 supplies each and a ural can hold 4 of them so they're like 2x as effective then pallets but even if the person buys and transfers all 140 stacks of items at 12 bucks a pop thats only 1680$.
>Turn 1 degree left or right in truck>Truck does a 180I fucking hate this thing...
>>581058208ok i got on a mortar for the second time and went 34/4
why do i often get refunded: $0, when my kit is like 99% intact at the end of a round? if this is intended theyre basically telling me to fuck around at the end of every game
>>581068552https://twitter.com/Brammflakes/status/2099378783564247494
>seeing tanks rolled out of deploymentim so fucked for having a job
>>581067568they need to adjust grip and slip levels on the tiers so we can get to some drifting. buggy's brakes are f1 grade that thing stops on a dime.>>581062917just two more days brother and we get to hunt tanks>>581065895KEK
this shit is so fucking common in my matches
>cut parachute a foot over the ground>instant death????????
>>581067098it's definitely satisfying, as opposed to the gun play. high skill ceiling though? i can do tight j hook landings and barrel rolls, which is the standard for squad. most people in the game can't, dunno if high skill ceiling or just low average skill.>>581069376just wait for the heli to land man.
>>581069434>heli players>ever landing>everIn what fucking world? They just do fly bys
>>581069434well, high skill ceiling means there is a lot of room to grow and improve even if you are already "good"it doesn't mean everyone is goodyou can do a j hook, can you do a j hook flying below sam lock landing on a dime in a tight clearing? can you sling a crate or pallet without having to j hook first and come to a stop and have it go where you want it?there's levels to it
>hop on a full lakota>"all right boys we're going to hang some niggers">"i hate niggers">"hey me too!">"anyone here like em?">complete silence>"hell yeah"
when is the first wipe?i think i might start playing after the wipe
>>581069845In about two weeks or so
i love when i get the 'you're not allowed to play the game anymore' bug
>>581069562>well, high skill ceiling means there is a lot of room to grow and improve even if you are already "good"i dunno, i feel like the helis are kind of gimped in a way that prevents maneuvers like you'd see in arma from bigtoe. may be for the best though? i bought the game because i got hooked on the flying, and it feels good to see number go up while people appreciate a quick ride.
How the fuck do you zero out your momentum when you're trying to land? I can deliver stuff just fine but trying to land once I'm back to base is impossible for me.
>>581069876holy fuck its so shortis the next wipe longer at least?casual would literally unable to unlock anything if they keep wiping everything
>>581070132you ever been skiing or snowboarding? exactly like that, but with air instead of snow
humvee armor is super weird.Literally everything can penetrate the glass of the armed one. The front glass seems to deflect some shots but not all of them and the side glass basically doesn't exist.For the unarmed one the front glass is basically impenetrable to everything (AP rounds make no difference). The side glass deflects rounds of the .50cal and it reduces damage by about half. Shooting through any part of the vehicle body also deflects but rounds do full damage. Aside from the .50cal no other weapon can penetrate through.I can't test what happens to anyone who is inside the vehicle, so maybe there's some effect.
>>581070164They said the first wipe will only be a month, the subsequent wipe will be 3 months ish.
>>581070220never, pic relI understand how to slow down, but it always ends up over or undershooting and I end up with 10km/h or something instead of being able to just stop myself
>>581070254Ah I forgot, there's no damage reduction anywhere with the armed one.
>>581069876>>581070164First wipe is one month long, thats 10th of October or almost 4 weeks.
>>581069896>iron sightsfor what porpoise
>>581070449i took the optic off to check if the bug was caused by it specificallyit wasn't
>use a shotgun of any kind with any kind of ammo, from any distance>opponent has lvl 3 armor>lose
Why dont people put APC under the roof or something?keep parking it in open
>>581070254Thanks for testing anon. I don't have much except anecdotal evidence. I got killed through the front glass of the unarmed humvee by a fmj mosin bullet, can't remember if I was full health but I definitely wasnt on deaths door either. And I went up against an armed humvee as an unarmed humvee, the gunner was blasting hundreds of roads directly through the front windshield and they were only doing 0.25 or 0.5 hp per hit.
>>581070325you will probably rarely be at exactly 0 when landing, a little bit of forward speed is ok when landing you really just don't want any side to side. most of my landings I slide forward a little bit after touching down.
>>581070132i wish i could explain but i have a schizo setup. my collective is mouse button 4 and 5, i had to change the collective x axis and the yaws, my pitch is southpaw and i just vibe out how to land. try messing around with the keybinds and stability options, i had to turn a few off.
Is it better to bring a kodiak full of stingers or build stealth AA fob?
>>581070904mobile AA is a turbo nigger to deal with, but if you're stationary I can work around that. you might get me once or twice though first.
>>581070621toru love
they should make crate inventories work like vehicle inventories where every item takes up only one slot regardless of size
why is the mp5 fucking dogshit? spraying entire clips of AP ammo into dudes and losing?kick fucking rocks
artillery was a mistakedidnt these devs ever play world of tanks
millions must fob
>>581071557The only reason to use any of the SMGs is leg shooting people with HP because the devs are tarkov brained
>>581071697the shell camera was a mistake, arty/mortars would be less oppressive without it
>>581070254i hit an armed humvee right in the engine block with an rpg and it just drove off like nothing happened before
spent a match dropping supply crates with 4 155 howitzer shells each to a guy sitting up in a mountain comfy but was probably aids for whoever was receiving those shells
>>581071808The humvee almost always takes about 45% damage from launcher hits and ive never seen it disabled the engine.
Players, we have heard your complaints, and have adjusted artillery mechanics. Instead of having the option to build mortars at FOBs, you can now build them anywhere with a small hammer. In addition to this, you can now purchase the new Mortar Humvee, allowing for rapid relocation and response to counter-battery fire. And to ensure player fairness, we have enabled fin-controls to mortar shells built on FOBs, letting you steer them while in the air. Good luck out there in The Sector, wardogs!
>>581070904Kodiak with stingers is better but you can only bring 13 per run. Keep relocating every time you down a heli and watch the slurs come by in chat
Commander mode when
>>581071953what the fuck? who balanced this fucking game
>spent an entire match sitting at someone's apartment fob playing a security guard to accept incoming shipments, spot enemies, and dispatch intrudersstrangely cozy
>>581072210Just shoot the wheels anon. It only takes one round of buckshot to destroy a tire, or a few from any other gun. And then while its trying to limp away you chase it down and shoot out the other tires until its immobile.
>>581068760ahhh thanks
>>581017782The main issue with infantry is the risk/reward. A decent infantry kit requires 2-4 kills or assists to break even. Meanwhile a trucker makes back the cost of his Ural and makes a profit on ONE run. Hell, a trucker can deliver, kill himself, buy a new fucking truck to make a new delivery and still be in the green, the economics of trucking are that whack.
>>581022476What are you talking about? They are wildly assymetrical, have you seen Blue team?
>>581022476Blue team spawn is the worst in every map, the game heavily favors red and green.
>build fob>nobody helps>be hitting yellow X for 90 minutes. >let team build fob>it's the most frankenstein chaotic piece of shit base, with several easy entry points for the enemymy life for the past 12 hours
>>581072723If the players were even remotely smart, blue would be running interference and sabotaging the leading team while building up its own bases. Instead, blues usually target the second place team for no reason, or the second place team targets blue instead of the leading team.
fuck they really need to add flying enemies to the firing range so i can practice shooting birds with rpgs
>>581072815I feel you anon. Building a really good FOB in a very defensible location, with towers jutting out for defence, and multiple airlocks, but then the entire team runs to the tower and gets shelled and attacked nonstop.
>>581027565you can try learning j hooks and all that flare but for me the ol reliable is to just level the helo around 1km from the CZ while holding the treetop level and it will start bleeding speed and you can pretty reliably land wherever you want in the zone with minor adjustmentsalso SAMs dont seem to be that much of a problem for me because you never fly that high to get a lock on, CWIS can be a problem here though
>>581072469this doesnt work. at best you get one and a half tires before the driver calls out your location and the gunner turns and blasts you away
>>581049242It's Blue team, they need expendable fobs for when they inevitably gets their shit pushed in
>>581069434KEK
>>581070621I've been one-shotting niggers blapping them in the chest with slugs, but then again I only ever fight in/around buildings/FOBs with tight corners.
>>581073493I've driven the humvee a lot, trust me I know the weaknesses. You can try taking out the gunner first but unless a teammate gets a lucky headshot, I just drive away outside the zone, revive my gunner and drive back in almost immediately while the gunner heals in the backseat. But if you take out the tires, the car slows to a crawl and its easier to take out the gunner and then the rest of the tires. Your only other effective option is to have two guys with launchers perfectly coordinated and shoot at the same time. If its just one or if one of the two misses, I just drive away like nothing happened, repair, and come back
>do nothing but spam mortars one round>$285k profit
Someone explain how to use the portable sams.If they don't instantly pop flares it's basically impossible to get a hit. And even when they don't use flares at all the missile just sometimes doesn't track anyway.
>pop flares, get instantly reacquired because flaring has a cooldown, die even though I'm within a second of shootingt-thanks... i didn't want to fly the helicopter anyways...
>50 urals on the map>not a single FOB placed down
>>581073983Nothing more satisfying than mortaring a base so hard they try to set up 5 mortars simultaneously to counter battery, and you take them all out before they can range you.
>>581069993Have you turned off the assist options? They might be messing with your finer movements.
>>581074283It's like I'm actually playing Foxhole.
>lvl 3 helmet is gamechanging upgrade>costs 75k to unlock>lvl 3 armor is sidegrade>costs 100k to unlockShould be the other way around to be honest
>>581074228Drive outside the zone and find a tower or high hill to spot from which will also help the missile tracking. Keep your vehicle close so you can quickly grab additional SAM's. When you see a helicopter, lock for a few seconds after tone, if theyre inexperienced theyll flare early and you get a free kill, if they don't flare after a few seconds you have a war of attrition where you just fire at them until they run out of flares.
>>581070325You can just do it retard mode like me and go completely vertical nose in the air until you come to a stop then level out. I have all the assists on except the thrust one. If I'm going full speed I will hold down ctrl a while before my target to start killing my upwards momentum then tip back hard when I'm over my target. Haven't really figured out turning while moving and I'm not accurate but it works. Scares the shit out of the passengers though so I see people dive out as soon as I pull that maneuver. Practice in the shooting range.
>hop in server after not playing a couple days>people have end game unlocks>close gameGuess this game will only be playable the first couple days of resets.
>red and blue fighting with each other>green free to create their FOBs and flying helis everywherethe more I play the more I don't like this 3 team setup
>>581072815my biggest issue is people just building FOB at towerand not a single take advantage of the tower
should be 1v1v1v1 desu
>>581071793i think it would solve most issue if they get rid of the shell camIf they want camera they should simply just use stringer
>spotting green fobs from their back line>spot 3 right next to each other on the edge of the map>train tracks between them has two guard towers on it>m249 kodiak doing an unironic patrol loop>sneak past them like I'm playing metal gear>another two fobs deeper into the circle>know they have more fobs already spotted by someone else>all the fobs form a wedge into the middle of the map>no idea how many other fobs there areThe fuck are these guys trying to colonise the map or something? Their minimap must have been completely green.
>season 1 skin cost 30 gold bar>are limited EA launch skin>a bar is now 2 millionsdamn I dont think I will bother
>>581075665based as fuck desu
there need to be a way to move the supplies boxfucking helicoptor always drop them off in most stupid spotyou need to be able to drag it around like bodies
>>581071793yeah it's stupidyou can literally see where people are running off too as well
>>581070621Theres a simple solution anon
Just get rid of mortars. That's literally all you have to do to fix the game.
>Ozeti
my first defib kill had a price, if i hadn't taken a screenshot I might have made it
>>581076927CWIS should automatically shoot down mortal shells
BoopI was honking as I drove up and gave another little toot with the boop
>>581076927theyre fine in other games. just make them way less accurate, and drop the cheat cam
>>581075518Tower fobs seem like a noob trap to me. They have an icon on the map so everyone goes there thinking they're important but that just draws the enemies too. Of all the places I see fobs built the towers are always the most common but also the most shit.
>>581075085Red and blue are teams for people who like playing the game. Green is the team for people who like to sit in fob for an hour doing nothing and then get a "you win" screen at the end
>>581022559it did work one time, at least in my very local example. used to trawl freeware game sites in school because fuck using the computers for actual schoolwork. we'd played the fuck out of halo CE & CoD2 that everyone passed around on USB's so I was hunting for something new.Came across this one game called Tremulous - pretty much exactly what is described. One team were aliens, and the other were marines. Aliens had different varieties all with their own strengths where as the marines had access to buildables. Started spreading it around school on USB's and fuck man, for 2-3 months it was fucking banging. We had a whole block of computer rooms and sometimes 2/3's of the classes would be playing this thing.Super fucking fun, and actually pretty well balanced IIRC. I'd kill to see this come back.
>>581078258Well, they have utility in that they are>high vantage points, for spotting sniping etc>almost entirely indestructible (this is about to become even more important as people are getting artillery unlocked now)>lots of impenetrable hard cover built into the tower design at all levels>typically ringed by containers, walls, etc that constitute an already half-built and again indestructible perimeterThey are designed to be FOBs and they are good in that role. But they aren't the end-all be-all and if a team is over-investing in a tower, it's going to bite them later.
>enemy had 4 attack choppers in the air>can't do shit about it because i couldn't grind the game since releasewelp
>>581074972Problem, wagie? Go build your little drill, my artillery is hungry for more kills in a small area
>>581076927Mortars stops camping.
>>581078435The main downside of them is that their location is already known, mortars will instantly reconnoitre them with a couple shells and if they detect building taking place the will spam shells the entire matchNon-tower fobs usually give you first mover advantage in the mortar market, so you can shell them before they shell you back
>>581078858Incredible things are happening on Japanese wardogs.
>>581078463>shoot down red rocket pod heli with the single use manpad>he spends the rest of the game hunting me down as I'm mostly attacking blue on the other side of the map, while his team slips into last place>whines in all chat at the end how he barely made any profitIt seems that some of these guys have the same mental complex as battlefield pilots
>>581078915This is neat, but will probably not be too effective against artillery, I think. Better than nothing I suppose
>>581078990Wish you could use the anti-heli launcher more than once, but I guess that would be too OP. You can't even pack a second one
>>581078915If thats inside a base its still getting destroyed by 2 mortars 3 tapping itThe most effective defense against mortars is simply not being found by them
>>581079073>>581079147The indirect fire shelters are a bit fucky, sometimes they protect you sometimes they dont. But if they worked correctly, the only way to kill this mortar operator would be to land a round directly into the 1 block opening or maybe the sandbags in front. That or destroying the whole shelter which would take like 20 rounds
Speaking of not being found by mortars, anyone know if ghillies disable mortar killcams? I feel like setting a secluded mortar fub in a forested area and using a ghillie suit to disable your killcams may be the next cancer meta when ghillies are unlocked
>>581079104>only MANPADS system in the game is heavy as fuck (+2 weight classes by itself), single use, and has unzoomed ironsights, and you cannot carry more than 1>other AA systems in the game are both static point buildables that require a fuckton of build supplies, take a lot of time to build, and require the user to be standing completely in the open>no vehicle-based AA systems in the game, at all>pilots still whining on leddit and the official shitcord nonstop about how OP AA isThese "people" need to be put down like dogs. Like honestly when you get armor mains in a game sure they can be faggots too, but they never come close to the hysterics of your average pilot sweat
>>581079434I was very curious about this as well. If built in a forest or in a secluded part of the map, you could rain terror nonstop unless a pilot or recon gets lucky and spots you.
>>581079471There is a vehicle AA in the game, they had a Gepard tank in the alpha testing and it shows up in the trailers sometimes, but for some reason they never added it back upon early access release.
>green>i get on mic and advertise hotzone squad>fuckin everyone joins>whole team following hz>up 85-0-0>we're hyped to get the achievement >retards forget to stay in the circle and get distracted fighting>blue gets one point>dreams crushed
>>581079434>>581079664Killcam or not it is generally difficult to find a well hidden stealth mortar fob. I do this a lot actually when trying to harass a dominant team. It is very rare that anyone finds these fobs. They are nothing but the fob item (hidden behind trees or a farmhouse) and one mortar pit (also preferably hidden). No hescos, no sandbags, nada. Occasionally some Bremer walls if I really need to prevent sniping/spotting from a specific direction (despite being taller, bremers stand out less than hescos since they look like normal walls from a distance)This is in contrast to my SPH, which no matter how well-hidden it is, will eventually be hunted down, sometimes by a dedicated team hunting them all match (especially happens if I buy extras for randos)>>581079757Probably pilot mains throwing hysteric tantrums about it needing nerfs. AA missiles aren't even hard to avoid in this game if you're not fucking retarded and are actually willing to buy flares.>>581079392155mm HE (artillery) absolutely annihilates hescos in 2-3 hits like anon said, but that's not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that the blast radius is so fucking big that any hit anywhere on or near the exposed side will be a kill on the mortar man. I don't even bother trying to land shells on mortar pits facing me, I just hit the tower behind them and still get the kill.
>smite some artygroid with my stingray drone three times in a row>he switches to my team so i can't farm him anymoremid match team switching was a retarded idea
>>581080339>using a $5000 single use drone to attempt to destroy a $8000 vehicleIt's literally the best possible use case for the stingray and yet it's still such a price imbalance lmao. But I get that if it's too cheap it will be cancer. What do you think, higher mech supply cost and cheaper cash cost?
>>581080213>Make a hidden mortar fob as blue>someone immidiately parks the apc next to it>soon, 4 to 5 blues will be walking around aimlessly
>>581049535A humvee full of reds with rpgs parked up basically right outside our HQ and blew up logi trucks until they ran out of ammo. I saw them set up their ambush initially and called it out in chat with coordinates and everything. Requested pilot assistance in clearing them out. No one did shit. Repeated my calls in chat. No one fought them. Logi trucks didn't change route. It was just me exchanging potshots with the three of them in between them blowing up our trucks. The people flying and driving in this game are some of the most braindead, confrontation-adverse morons on the planet.
why is flying this piece of shit helicopter so hard?and every tutorial i can find uses different settings
The anti cheat just BSOD'd my rig, the first time I ever experienced this on my current setupI'm refunding as soon as I can bootup again fuuuccckkkI was enjoying the game but I'm not risking it. I'll wait for 1.0
>>581080731blues are so desperate for leadership that they are ready to follow anyone who seems to be doing something with purpose
>>581080530>using a $5000 single use drone to attempt to destroy a $8000 vehicleit's not quite that bad, you get like 14k for killing SPHsi do still think vehicles cost more though, a tank or spg should never cost less than an infantry kit
>>581081303*vehicles should cost more
>>581081303Are drones a guaranteed kill on SPGs? I haven't really used them myself but I was on the receiving end as a regular tank in the betas. They did like 80% dmg to tanks so they could finish me off if I was weakened by an rpg, but I don't remember them ever one shotting me.
Everyone should have to play on blue team at least once a day before being allowed to pick red or green.
>>581081724It one shots everything except tanks. Tanks need 2 drone hits unless you manage to hit its rear engine (it one hits if the tank is has some minor damage, not full health.)
>>581081724they oneshot APCs and SPHsi'm pretty sure they can oneshot tanks if you hit the engine deck but that was back in the beta and I can't say definitively that those tanks were at full health, so I'm not 100% sure on that
how do i slide cancel?
>>581081008you have a hypervisor open?
>>581081724Usually. A direct hit is a one shot, instant. And it had fucking better be, for a shot that costs $5000 and 900 mech supplies. But, he can get unlucky: if he starts the descent too early and at the right time, there is a chance for the spg to unstabilize and lurch forward/back, since it sends the gunner a unique alert noise when the drone is incoming. On the receiving end, I've done this (dodging it) only once. I've had a higher number where I didn't move at all and the operator just fucking misses me and does half damage.
>>581081303how do you even locate these shits in the middle of nowhere
>>581082360>see red arty in the kill feed>launch stingray drone in the direction of red spawnit's that simple, arty users are kinda retarded and will just drive in a straight line from their spawn towards cz and stop out in the open once they get in range
>>581082084nah apparently from the cord and lelddit, the anti cheat is trying to read from memory space that's restricted then it caused a bsod
>>581082360Tell your recon fags to spotting scope them
>>5810827688000000 layers of anti cheat0.00001% of cheaters caughtlinux is a fuck2 million copies sold
went to work for 8 hours? it's over. forever behind. time to refund
>>581035456and that one recon shot gives the enemy notice that there are now mortars coming at them, and if you hit something, they now know your location BEFORE you can volley.
>>581075665>m249 kodiak doing an unironic patrol loopgreenfags actually organized, outstanding.
>hop on community server>they're just trading wins for the clean sweep cheevobased
>buy lakota>first time flying>all seats full> ask if this can do a barrel roll>everyone says to try it>roll successful, cheers and applause>go to resume flying to hz after leveling out from roll>suddenly lose ALL control and it didn't matter what I pushed>heli does an x games vert ramp trick that would have broken records>fiery crash into forest killing the entire crew right at the start of the gameso yeah don't do that. I tried to get it on video but I hit save too long after it happened :(
>>581084332They just need to make a server for below level 60 because the gear difference is immense.
>>581085491>suddenly lose ALL control and it didn't matter what I pushedVehicles desync from key presses randomly. Game is still in beta and UE5 despite saying they have modules for everything doesn't work out of the box.
>>581084605kek>>581085515there's supposed to be one for under level 30 but i hit level 30 so quickly before stalling out due to the curve that it i don't think it'd be very useful
>>581085003Meanwhile me, a lonestar, am busy getting pinned down on top of a bridge by a green strike team on one end and red snipers on top of the tower on the other end>why is a full regiment on blues trying to push this bridge instead of retaking our tower fob from red?
>>581084110>lets have AI do anitcheatwhat a brilliant idea, should have outsourced 33 thousand jeets to do it desu
they're monitoring :)will they give us an actual balance pass mid season or do we have to wait for the wipe to see real changes?
>>581086194>have to wait for the wipe to see real changeswell, at least you won't be waiting very long
>>581085774Call your teammates retards on comms and tell them this game isn't about company scale frontline battles it's about sneaking in through fob's ass sides
>>581086194They aren't entirely wrong though, the heli is less dangerous than a grounded gun. Heli can't pin down while a gun mount can establish fire superiority.Also can't the helis be brought down with small arms?
>>581086780Yes. t. shot a damaged littlebird's tail rotor off with a mosin
>>581086194well we're half way through the season so probably one more patch to fix exploits like 5x build speed but doubtful big balance until next wipe.
>>581086780556 can go through the littlebird glass and hit the pilot. The humvee is bulletproof to 556 and pistol rounds
>>581069896Ran into that once as well. I killed two stationary guys like that lol
Well the fun's overAt this rate it will reach zero players within about 2 weeks
>>581087279we're just getting started
>>581086194>be that powerful in pre alpha and alphaCause people had to figure out your scuffed flight physics that make flying arma helis look like a walk in the park.>added hotas quite late Near all the really good pilots use rifle aim or default. Hotas in this game is just a form of shitter cope because they suck at controlling the heli with m&k and aren't willing to put in the time in practice range, so of course it brought the average up.>only counters to it are fob and iglaI've been shot out of the pilot seat or rpg'd more than I've been killed by cwis or sam's.
>>581087006>we're half way through the seasonwe are less than a week into the first month long season
>>581087597Goddamn that's some amazing photoshop workOr did you use AI? It looks perfect
>>581086194>HOTASeveryone is using mouse aim innt
>>581087006>wipeThey really shouldn't do these. If you've unlocked shit through in game time then you shouldn't have to re-unlock shit
>assume this is a milsim-lite which will be more hardcore than battlefield>play recon>headshots ping off helmets half the time>leg and body shots are ignored as assaults just sprint without a care till they get in position to full auto meThis is fucking mmo tier, its fun but I dont want to grind for guns to get a reasonable lethality on my class. The one time i stole a mosin I immediatelly clocked 5 dudes. And thats fine since its level 10 to unlock, but its going to get obnoxious playing catch up to the next good gun once most the cunts are in full kits at the higher tiers.
>>581085132Uh oh anon, you're going to get banned for exploits
>>581087721If they don't wipe, then every match will be filled with attack helicopters, tanks and lvl 4 armor juggernauts eating .308s to the face. Just like tarkov, the early game meta is the most fun and it just gets worse over time as the poopsockers progress.
There should be a wipe but only so NEETs like me can rush to unlock everything and have fun farming gamer dads
>>581087721I agree. The sweats who play 20 hours a day starting the moment of wipe will always have an advantage and wiping regularly only reinforces the neet-loop. As other guys have pointed out money should be harder to get than xp, so at the very least retards will have to do a couple trucking runs before affording another tank.But this is gaming in the 2020s, where technocrats decided that wasting as much young male energy with endless gameplay loops as possible is the new social meta.
>>581087049>The humvee is bulletproof to 556 and pistol roundsThe gunner isn't
>>581079471My only two complaints about AA in this game as one of those heli sweats is that a second missile can be fired and hit before your flares are off cooldown and the way that if a missile is fired before you get below the treeline the thing will swerve around every obstacle in its path and even clip through trees to hit you. I don't generally have an issue with absolutely braindead to use counters against air like in this game and BF6 but they should also follow some degree of logic and not curve around shit like its sentient.
>>581088410You wont be playing this game anymore in a few weeks either way.
>>581087935That whole "We are monitoring and will ban you for manipulation" is an obvious bluff
>>581086780A humvee gunner can be killed by anyone. The minigun heli is a rape machine in the hands of a competent pilot, not one of the logi monkeys. You also get the rocket heli at the same time as the m249 humvee, still well before the minigun humvee. The progression is, in fact, wack
>>581087643the wipe happens early october.
>>581089264>the minigun heli is a rape machine>plinks your tail rotor out with the fucking scout riflelmao
>>581089582post video of you doing this consistently
>>581087707because the hotas implementation is complete dogshit, never have I played a game with worse hotas controls and you might aswell play with arrow keys
>>581089648I'm not a streamer, I don't sit and record myself playing the game.Feel free to go into the firing range, the tail rotors on all little bird variants has less than 200 HP and 0 armor. Lakota has like 500 but still low/no armor.
>>580995131I don't see why it's not 100 vs 100, the third team is not brinnging much to the table so far in my experience
>>581078915The mortarjew fears the Samurai
>>581089779the scout rifle doesn't even oneshot headshot, in what world is it hitting 200 damage for the rotor?
>>581089889did I say it was oneshotting? Why are you getting mad at shit you're making up?
>>581089889I'm not that guy but I took down a little bird with x54r after my squad helped damage it with mag dumps. Consistent maybe not, but certainly possible.
>>581090124If its not oneshotting then your point is retarded and you *need* to kill yourself
>>581090124You know full well that it was what you were implyingNow that you're called out on your bullshit, you're doing picrel
>>581086194You also earn pilot xp a hell of a lot faster by virtue of them being faster for both passengers and pallet delivery, and that players always choose them for transport from HQ.
>>581090223???????????it wasn't, if it was what I meant to say, I would have said that.why the fuck should anyone be able to one shot a fucking heli with small arms?It's still not difficult to deal with at ALL.
>>581089865I like the idea, one team is getting too far ahead so both of the others need to focus efforts on that team. I've had a couple matches where the third team buys mine time by stealing the zone from the leaders, somwtimes even letting us pull off a comeback.Maybe it will be implemented better after retards get sick of making increasingly complicated levels of doors all game.
>buildan a fob on the edges>pilot drops by near me and helps make the fort>hear engine sounds>oh boy haha you know what that means>pull out my gun and check map to see if my one battle buddy noticed too>he's afk>hear like twenty c4 and people yelling as they rush my base that's literally just walls>he's still afk>doesn't die somehowwhat
>>581090276I understood you anon, the bot youre arguing against is playing talmudic words games
>>581090276>>581090629samefag
>>581086194I’m gonna be honest this faggot is gonna kill the game the way he talks he’s such a fucking slimeball
>>581090997If you want to have some fun go read through the announcements in the 'cord and see how long it takes you to realize their faggot community manager is obviously using AI
I think my favorite mechanic has to be crates/pallets on a heli.They say they have "some resistance to high speed impact" but then only list altitude.So I decided to test this, naturally, and it turns out that even at 300kmh you can fling those bitches and they are PERFECTLY fine as long as they don't fall beyond their limit. It's really kind of busted because you can drop them full speed at a tower and they slam into it and fall down and you don't even have to stop. Helis are just straight up better for logi, too, why on earth would anyone ever drive BESIDES to get to tanks?>large crates (have to unlock with pilot level) have TWICE the amount of resources as a pallet
>>581091135as a certified LLM coom veteran i could tell the moment i read the steam patch notes
>>580990467i will never understand these weird hangups people have about buying video games. i am in my late 30s so most of my friend circle makes good money, have families, mortgages, some of them are very well off, driving fucking $50k+ cars etc. yet when i want them to try a new game that costs literally a 2 person lunch it's like pulling fucking teeth. "nah man, it's $40, let's play CS instead" bitch you just ordered a fucking 2nd $5k carbon road bike that you use once a month but nah, we can't play a game that we won't play for at least 2000 hours. pisses me off so fucking much.
>>581090997Why are people starting to hate Bremmer so much?
>>581091694Listening to him speak
>>581091694the way he handled the launch, going on streams constantly and doing the sean murray (no man's sky) method of "ummm errr uhhh you know we're just guys... ahahah, ehh... ahaha..."creeps people out.Also the fact he blatantly lied about the streamer shit. No, I will not let a dev blatantly outright lying to my fucking face go, that's a pretty significant tell that he can't be trusted.
>>581091694because he's a phony, arrogant fag. once the honeymoon period is over and people will keep pointing out glaring issues that they don't know how to fix he will have a public crash out. it's uncanny how this whole Wardogs thing is copying the Battalion experience. all the way from "we're just gamers like you guys, saving the FPS from the corporations mahhhnn" to launch day fuckup where they were "in contact with Valve to stop getting rate limited" up to "we got DDOS'd". i feel like i am in Groundhog Day or some shit.
>>581091694Because their dads never loved them, so they have a natural averse reaction to strong male role models
>>581091694He says he’s not like AAA devs yet constantly goes on and on about “THE DATA” like a cod dev. The shakey hand cam dev blogs were so highly manufactured and all he does is retweet streamers I don’t know what they gave streamers because they aren’t paid APPARENTLY but the streamers who get paid thousands by Activision or EA don’t even run that heavy of a defense on COD/Battlefield
>>581092212The only difference is Wardogs actually is making money, battalion was a wet fart they gave up on instantly but you are right he never however this time is different he has a defense force
>>581090767no you just have dogshit opinions and at least 2 people disagree with you, schizo
>>581092321He gave streamers a personal fucking whitelist they are probably investors at this rate
I feel bad whenever I kill someone and find out they were using the shitty starting sniper rifle, especially when they are the ones initiating the engagement by shooting me in the head when I least expect it. Why would the devs even include such a trash weapon in the same? Even the compound bow is better (arguably better than a lot of weapons for stealth gameplay).
>>581092321it's such a mystery why would a software developer interact with influencers who give their huge marketing channels to him for free. also what's wrong with data based decision making? there's criticism and then there's being a fucking retard whining about nonsense.
>>581092763The compound bow is one of the strongest weapons in the game. lv2 and under it one shots to chest/head. lv3 it still one shots to the head, and it has 0 falloff, you can fire an arrow 800m before it starts to fall. IT's literally better than rifles.The starter sniper exists only to frustrate people into spotting, the devs have said so, they literally put it in to piss you off so you do spotting instead, to force you to interact with game mechanics you probably wouldn't touch otherwise.It's a smart design decision, because you generally won't be interacting with the low level rifle that long anyway, 5 recon takes like 3 matches if you're unlucky.
>>581092940because they spent 3 months talking about how they weren't going to pay streamers and weren't going to give preferential treatment to streamers and how they "Weren't like the other game devs who did that shit, they want this to be for regular guys" and then gave streamers money, gave streamers access to higher level items, gave streamers prio access into the game (breaking the queue and causing the 6hour fuckfest at launch), and much much more that hasn't been revealed yet I'm sure.
Been doing infantry a lot recently playing like a battlefield support LMG+Defibs but holy fuck even direct hot zone action revives its barely breaking even.Does XP just fucking crater at level 50 and level 15 for classes?
>multiple havocs today>no tanks for another week probablythis is an airchad game
>>581092739>He gave streamers a personal fucking whitelistAre there any other devs or companies that you hate for making competent and correct business decisions?Just trying to gauge how retarded you actually are, versus just having performative outrage
>>581091694He's okay. Contrarian faggots will hate him because 1) he's a visible dev and 2) reddit likes him. No other reason is necessary.
>>581093125Not even call of duty or battlefield would let streamers skip queues before can we stop saying it’s marketing And even if it was marketing their VERY marketing campaign said they would capitulate to streamers
>>581093110Money wise I've barely ever lost money unless I'm going solo somewhere. If your kit costs more than 15k you're buying too much shit. 2 medkits, 2 quickrez (1 free), gun, armor, 16 slot bag, that's it. Pick up as you go, that should be under 10k in nearly every category.
>>581093087>they spent 3 months talking about how they weren't going to pay streamers and weren't going to give preferential treatment to streamersWhere did they say this?
>>581093110Exp requirements increase exponentially.
>>581093292In literally every single one of their dev vlogs unil the august tests. In the fucking GAME REVEAL vlog. IN.THE.10.REASONS.VIDEO.
>>581093278I’m buying a defib and batteries
>support 16>unlock mobile AA>immediately grab a truck and camp outside enemy spawns for free chopper kills and rage in the text chat
>>581093273And they were talking about adjusting balance or making changes based on streamer feedback over the community's, not about letting them skip queues on launch day. If you pretend there's no difference between the two you're just a faggot.
>>581093420Where exactly?
>wake up>gold back up to 2.1milLET ME BUY IT ALREADY
>>581093468Okay?What gun are you bringing.If you're bringing defibs, probably an SMG or a shogun, I would hope. Balance he cost elsewhere. Also, don't buy a ton of abtteries, the starter battery+1 high cap is more than you will EVER realistically revive in one life. If you live past that, get someone to airdrop you batteries.
>>581093938Ehhhh I revive a lot like sometimes 20 in one life. I bring like 3 large batteries I’ll probably have to stop bringing the m249 sadly
>>581093420>IN.>THE.>10.>REASONS.>VIDEO.Here's their 10 reasonsLack of Content (01:50)Early Access Pricing (03:02)Player Count Will Decline (04:18)Monetisation (05:14)Performance / Visuals (07:41)Early Access Priorities Shift (08:40)We Made Battalion 1944 (09:31)Voip (11:01)Controller Support (11:47)Decisions Have Consequences (12:29)I don't see streamers in there...
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>>581078915I tried this and didn't see how it work, the angle is too low to be useful. You can only hit targets that are around 200-300 feet away if even that because otherwise you'd end up shooting the roof.
>>5810940794:08https://youtu.be/240spQbhgIA?t=248
>>581091694Just mild disdain for now. There's something about devs who draw a lot of attention to themselves that I don't like. >Vlogs, look at me.>In-game tutorial, put me on a projector. Look at me. >Oh we made a mistake? Look at me taking responsibility. >We're not like the other devs, we're just cool guys like youIt seems very performative. Or maybe I'm schizo and need to take my meds. .
>>581073983>Keep supplying the mortar chads as logi>400k+ profit because they just keep mortaring blue
New thread? I want to keep shitposting
>>581096052>New threadWe've been here for 20 minutes>>581094092Posted by >>581094126
>>581087918it takes 1 fucking game with a binocular to unlock SKS and then 2-3 more games playing recon to unlock mosin. you are shit at video games. that is the entire root of your problem here.
>>581080946Only mouse control is mandatory.
