topic of the thread:
How do you land a helicopter?

>>581094092

Fuck Manticore tho

>>581094230
Ok, so it's not where you said it was, and it's not what you said it was, it's just admitting that they did a queue jump for streamers
Which is a logical and reasonable business decision to make on the most important day for the game's success

>>581094423
very carefully

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But yeah I revive way more people than you think I do, one life was 35 at least. Okay but you caught me I do over spend on the loadout because I just want tools because I am directly in that hot zone shit nigga

>M249
>defibs + 3 large batteries
>Smokes
>Frags
>Spare ammo box for m249
>4 med kits
>5 bandages
>adrenaline now

>>581094483
>yeah who cares they just lied about their intentions
>it doesn't matter I love my epic streamers LMAO I dropped a 100 bomb hopefully they recognize me next stream!

>>581094483
I assumed he was shitposting with that video link because that's a launch day recap which isn't at all any of the pre-launch messages from devs saying they won't "capitulate to streamers"

>>581094483
I wasn't the original guy you were sperging out with, I just got tired of looking at two kids fist fighting online so I just sent it as I had it laying around

>>581094483
Logical but not even AAA games do that, streamer queues are a bad image even if objectively they are good for marketing m

This game didn’t need streamers they were marketing on the idea they weren’t gonna do AAA things

>>581094565
No, I understand entirely. I'm saying it's not worth spending it on defib batteries when every other person you kill will have bandies and a quickrez. Defibs are cool, but you shouldn't be using it for EVERY revive, only when you actually need that really fast hit because you can't get a drag off or need someone back in the fight ASAP.

>>581094763
My issue is bag space
5 rezes from a 1x1 battery versus 1 for a 2x1 quickrez

I agree both have their use cases, and you'd be dumb not to scavenge, but the choice is easy

Are you faggots really going to seethe over two dozen people getting to sit in buggy and empty lobbies on launch day as if that alone caused you to sit in queue position 300,000 for a couple hours for the rest of time? When the game dies are you going to spam every wardogs thread with
>this is what you get for letting streamers play before me
>shouldn't have had a priority queue for streamers on launch day! this is what happens
and so on? Be honest. Don't you think you're being a bit of a histrionic faggot? Can't you at least talk about the actual problems in the game instead of harping about streamers?

>>581095069
Yes that's why I said 1 high cap for the 10 and the default for the 4 is more than enough. Again, you're trying to make excuses for it, it's not a complicated fix, stop using defibs for everything.
You should have plenty of space with your layout.
>m249 and defibs are in your main slots
>smokes take up 2 slots (Assuming 2 stacks)
>frags take up 2 slots (same deal)
>spare hardcase ammo takes 6 (unless you meant you were taking actual ammo and only one cloth/hardmag for the m249 which would only be 2/4.)
>battery takes 2
>4 medkits takes 2
>1 stack bandage 1 stack adrenaline for another 2
16.
bring the 21 and you can take your quickrev too, but I'd say just drop the bandies altogether, as well as culling one stack of either frags or smokes.
I understand you like the defibs, and they're cool. They're not worth the space you're using for all those batteries.

>>581094423
with no survivors

>>581095641
yes because they had no issues with 300k people in the open beta, no "rate limiting" and no "ddos" but suddenly after a streamer queue is introduced the queue is fucked EXCEPT For those streamers.
Pretty fucking clear to me they broke the game's queue to prioritize streamers.

>>581095751
I hate that Bane scene ever since somebody pointed out to me that they didn't have to kill one of their henchmen
They could've just brought another corpse for "they expect one of us in the wreckage"

I know it's for the characterization of Bane and his henchmen, but it just bugs the shit out of me

>>581095895
open beta maxed out at 250k players
>EXCEPT For those streamers
They were constantly disconnected and kicked back out of the game and made to log in again, which is how everyone figured out there was a streamer queue before it was confirmed. And after the server reboot they got in first but couldn't even play because there were no players to fill servers. Why make shit up?
>Pretty fucking clear to me they broke the game's queue to prioritize streamers.
Oh, because you are, in fact, a histrionic faggot.

>>581094483
shut up zoomoid

>>581096193
You don't need to suck off your favorite streamers so hard you gorilla nigger. It's plain fact they gave them priority access. That's not okay. No one but little 12 year old faggots who sit and watch streamers all day would ever want that.

>>581096193
>"Thanks Anon for the sub!" *Proceeds to forget your name*

Ok, time to stop replying to that histrionic faggot
I'm convinced he's just doing it for the (You)s

Is t3 armor worth running heavy weight?

>caring about streamers when your classes, xp and money is getting wiped in 2 weeks
Oh boy, I cant wait to go back to trying to progress ground vehicles purely through Ural logistic runs because there is literally no other way to level ground vehicles thats viable.

>Just only now i found out you can force eject people out the heli
Thank fuck, tired of faggots not jumping out and waiting for me to land in the hz.

>>581096787
wondering the same thing, t2 has saved my ass a lot so I havent bought t3 yet

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Rocketbirdbros, how are we feeling?

>>581096787
Heavy weight is the highest I'll ever go, but begrudgingly. With your fists out you get the speed bump from one level weight lower, and you keep running infinitely, so on heavy it's doable, but any more and you're fucked unless you're basically never moving (IE fob defense or for emergencies in a vehicle crash situation)
>>581096834
I care about streamers getting in early because they're being treated with favoritism and if they're given early access what else are they getting? It's just shitty and I can't trust that they aren't giving them other shit too.

>>581096893
How?

>>581096898
I'm pretty sure heavy removes the brief sprint, but it also might make you slower in general? I'll have to check

>>581096893
jokes on you I didnt buy a parachute, land me aero-wagie

>>581096419
>>581096534
>can't defend his retarded logic
>lashes out instead
I am not defending streamers or the devs. I am attacking (You) for being a retarded faggot. Learn to use your brain.
>It's plain fact they gave them priority access.
I never said otherwise. You really are the dumbest fucker around.

>>581096976
I gave up on helis. I'm waiting until they give me planes.

>>581094423
The ground effect is overdone, the helicopters shouldn't bounce like a Mario jump when they land

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>>581097130
>planes

>>581096985
nta but I think it's in the action menu where you lock doors or access vehicle inventory
>>581097045
just hope you land by a friendly who can revive you

Pilots who can land are higher class

>>581096993
good point I think I value the sprint more than extra armor

>>581097130
They cancelled planes anon

>>581094609
how is letting in a dozen ecelebs "capitulating to streamers" or affecting your experience of the game in any fucking way? please explain this to me. because from my POV this is nothing but impotent seething from bitter mongoloids.

>>581097294
you can run, just no tac sprint (the double tap shift sprint). 99% of people are never tac sprinting. heavy hurts more for the increased sway/ads time.

>>581091694
Because this is 4chan and thus a place full of lifelong losers incapable of taking responsibility for their fuckups. Hence why they are lifelong losers in the first place.

>>581094092
The CZ should be much much larger and it should be 150 player 50 players per team so there are multiple separate battles going on scattered around the CZ

>>581097256
That they said they'll add planes at some point? Yes, I know.

>>581097321
because They allowed them in and they had no issue getting ingame (To sit in empty servers, but the fact they got in at all is still the fucking issue) when everyone else was stuck in a queue. If they were able to let them in, why were others not able to be let in?
Why was this separate queue for only the (((((chosen people))))) functioning PERFECTLY fine, and able to let people in, but the regular queue did not?

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>>581094092
This thing is so broken it's unreal
>go on tom and jerry chases with infantry using my HummerVision™ to just look at them over the walls
>hide humvee behind truck
>turn off engine
>watch them check if the way's clear
>they run across the road
>i appear
>honking
>splat
And it's really funny taking a whole bunch of MANPADs and shutting down a team's entire flight corridor. You can see, realtime, how they stop using helos or fly as low as possible.

I've even chased one I shot at and saw him land, turn off his engine, wait two minutes, lift off again, then explode because I was using HummerVision™ to watch over the berm the whole time.

Look I’m entering this argument but all their videos kept going on and on about how they won’t act like AAA corpos and it rubs people the wrong way if they’ll just go directly to helping streamers


They have to be tone deaf because they have gotten SO MUCH comments from people who hate what cod or bf does with it’s marketing and they don’t listen there

>>581097268
no thanks I'll just sap your xp by dying naked. get good at actually landing choppers.

>>581097535
>If they were able to let them in, why were others not able to be let in?
they explained it clearly in the last vlog or whatever they put out.
>Why was this separate queue for only the (((((chosen people))))) functioning PERFECTLY fine, and able to let people in, but the regular queue did not?
because it's a sound business decision you blithering faggot

>>581097648
>They have to be tone deaf
They admitted they were and apologized for doing the streamer queue. Bremmer's motto by now is "we got it wrong, that's on me"

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>>581097608
>They finally shoot all my tires
>I'm at a standstill and they all come to surround to talk shit
>Little did they know I already have c4 planted on my humvee
>7+ kills everytime
>They seethe

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>just burnt like 80k splattering faggot smokestack campers
worth it desu

Level 15 and beyond the classes really gets fucking slow, I’d rather keep that beta progression if we wipe in a month

>>581097894
yeah, it gets really faggy past 15. they would have to be completely retarded to not tone it down. which is possible given that they have battalion under they belt.

>>581097395
whassup Bremmer

>>581097373
>heavy hurts more for the increased sway/ads time
Oh shit
Hmm. I wonder if I should min/max my load out to just get a t3 helm on or something. I'll play with the weights later

>>581097894
I think the normal cadence will be 3 months between wipes
They're just doing 1 month now because they know something will be fucked up, and having a full 3 months before they can adjust the values would be too long

>>581097850
>$651

I swear the drones so odd it’s purely designed to kill tanks it’s worthless to actually try to go for anything else and it can’t target other emplacements

>>581097794
>they explained it clearly
no they didn't, they made like 6 different excuses that didn't actually clarify at all.
>Well we were rate limited by valve
okay cool, why were some people still able to get in consistently? You know, the streamers, in their separate priority queue.
>it was a ddos
okay, why were the streamers able to consistently get in to the main lobby?
I understand the servers themselves were fucked, that's not the issue, it's that there was a queue that was separated for streamers, that never had any of these issues and they were able to get into the firing range. It is unfair and I do not appreciate being treated like a second class citizen for shit I paid for. It's fucking gay.

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>>581097819
I didn't die once this game, even when they shot my tires. Fucking managed to crawl to our friendly FOB where there was, amazingly, a refuel and repair station and wrenches nearby.

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After 2 hours of practicing helicopter landings i've come to the conclusion that i hate helicopters.
This piece of shit flying machine has a spirit of its own and it hates me.
When I want small movement, heli does big movement.
When I want big movement, heli does small movement.

j hook? impossible
best i can do is hold "collective down" for the worlds slowest vertical landing

>>581097819
Can you plant it inside? Or do you have to plant it outside?

>>581098030
He's out of zone, that's why it's so low.
But yes drone is almost exclusively meant for heavy, slower moving or stationary targets. It costs too much to be worth it for anything else.

>>581097484
Nta but planes already exist, they testes them and decided they're not fun and not being added ever.

>>581097608
>using my HummerVision™ to just look at them over the walls
This is my favorite thing about driving and I'm going to be sad when they remove third person camera for drivers. Hiding behind all the walls on Zestafona and waiting for infantry to think they're safe before rolling out and feeding them to my gunner is so fucking fun

>>581098153
Use ye mystical "change seats" technique

>>581098209
Yes, they also said that you have two dads.

>>581098220
it's not going anywhere, they've said multiple times "if you want fpp only go to hardcore servers".
Same for people bitching about vehicles, go to infantry only.

>>581097894
Exp increases on a curve, anon. Be ready for it. But I agree that seasonal wipes shouldn't happen.

>APC is the fastest way to grind out ground xp
>wipe will happen
>will have to sit in base and wait to take it first
>if any other player takes it, have to go into the zone and C4 it yourself so you can use it

>>581098334
Fuck yeah

>>581098035
>no they didn't, they made like 6 different excuses that didn't actually clarify at all.
you have subhuman IQ if you didn't understand what they said in that video using literal child level metaphor to explain what happened.
>okay cool, why were some people still able to get in consistently? You know, the streamers, in their separate priority queue.
BECAUSE THEY FLAGGED STREAMER ACCOUNTS TO SKIP THE QUEUE HOLY FUCK, HOW DUMB ARE YOU?

>>581098209
>they testes
it isn't kind to talk about someone's testes anon

>>581097850
>>581098030
It's not about money, it's about sending a message.

>>581098392
>have to go into the zone and C4 it yourself so you can use it
and this is what i did.
Already got tanks and win every server now coz retards still don't use stingers.

>>581098209
Planes would add so much complexity for little return
They could fly across the map in like 20 seconds, and you'd need to expand the edges so you don't just fly off the edge of the world, you'd need airstrips, etc.

It simplifies things drastically by just not including them

Letting certain big streamers in before everyone else is shitty and I hate it but I can't argue against it from a business standpoint. Gotta do what you gotta do.
>>581097995
I won't think about Bremmer at all when I'm not playing this game anymore in 3-4 months. You subhumans will still be here seething about him.

>>581098417
THEN WHY DID THEY KEEP SAYING THE STREAMER QUEUE WAS BROKEN AND DIDN'T FUNCTION YOU FUCKING TURBO NIGGER
KILL YOURSELF AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY YOU WASTE OF SPACE
https://www.twitch.tv/bigfry/clip/JoyousStormyTubersPeteZaroll-sV6CODbqRUekYBtB

>You can convert cash into class XP
This is such an obvious, easy fix to stop people having to do endless repetitive tasks.

>>581098610
i can't help you with your dysfunctional brain, you will have to take it up with your mother and ask her why she drank during pregnancy so much

>>581098643
>horde gold at the end of a wipe since it's persistent
>wipe happens, sell all gold for cash
>convert cash to xp
>be superhuman in t3 armor among plebs
Probably not a perfect method

zoomer internet defense force (zidf) is doing the chosen people's work out here defending streamers as good business practice
>yes appeal to the people who watch other people play games, this will sell copies

>>581098852
you can't sell gold

I just unlocked the large crates which from my understanding supply 2x as many materials per trip but you have to transport all the stacks into the fob manually and if I ALSO remember correctly if I buy materials into a crate I have to buy them again to get then out of my own crate so its extremely in-efficient to deposit them myself and I have to annoy my teammates?

>>581098643
>>581098852
There would need to be some kind of limit on it, but buying XP could work well
Maybe you could only buy XP for 3 levels per day
Or some kind of split between earned XP and bought XP, so you can only buy 2x your earned XP (earn 100 XP, you can buy 200 XP with cash)

>>581098831
Nice retort, faggot, you keep defending streamers and saying "it's good business" when that business is the devs fucking lying through their teeth and changing excuses multiple times every hour about why their systems were "broken and rate limited and ddosed" but somehow perfectly, fully functional for specific people. They fucked it up, they broke it when the betas WERE NOT broken, and had to backtrack.
It is objectively, provably, definitively because they catered to streamers that it was so fucked, they will make that mistake again UNLESS they are called out on it.
I'm done trying to explain this extremely basic shit to you, again, kill yourself, save the world from your stupidity.

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>>581097608
>be lonestar merc
>joined up because you miss the sandbox from your army days and this PMC pays well
>deploy to bumfuck eastern europe
>well whatever a shithole's a shithole
>in the conflict zone and moving out with my squad
>dismount the helo and take stock of surroundings
>all slow going, moving to our first rally point
>suddenly hear an engine
>odd, briefing said it'd be a while yet before we'd make contact with reds
>hear a honk
>everybody looks to the left
>hear engine getting closer from the right
>jerry who i shared a smoke with is now doing a very generous impression of a rug
>vehicle that ran him over is gone now
>hear nothing
>everybody panicking
>make our way to the closest wall to get our bearings
>nobody has any idea what just happened
>wait 15 minutes
>flies are gathering on jerry already, must've forgotten to shower
>fuckit
>we decide to cross the road
>the moment we step out, the same blur as before appears
>there's a man inside wearing green
>i look into his eyes
>what i see in his soul is a man who's driven a supply truck for days on end
>a man who's decided this is how he contributes
>everything goes black
>last thing i hear is "alhamdulillah"

Do you have to unload ammo into the FOB personally to get the supplies bonus, or does it work just being the one who dropped the pallet in?

>>581099042
items cost nothing if retrieved from your own supply crate. You can set tax markup to $0, you get $25 for each stack deposited into a FOB.
The issue is most people fill their backpack with stupid shit so they can only transport 4-5 stacks (if that) at a time so it takes AGES. The amount of walls and doors blocking the fob most times makes it slower than a pallet even if the amount if technically higher.

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>>581098928
>you can't sell gold
Lies

>>581098852
>he thinks he'll get to sell gold
You vill spend ze gold bars on cosmetics and you vill be happy

>>581098908
>provide a way for people to watch gameplay while they are in queue and can't play
>2 million copies sold
>anon shits his pants every thread at the thought of streamers
win win

>>581099208
for pallet, the logi driver who dropped the pallet gets it.
For individual stacks, the person who deposited into fob gets it.

>>581099265
Oh it costs nothing to withdraw from my own crate? Alright then fuck it ill just buy a massive backpack and move the shit myself.

>>581099208
You get the full support xp even if someone else puts it in tne FOB. They also get the full support xp.
>>581099336
What's the point of the price rise and fall on the gold exchange if you can't pump and dump?

>>581099356
1 throaway streamer acknowledgement has been added to your izzat score

>>581099496
Yeah that's generally how I roll if I'm doing a self-supplied FOB. Big crates on a URAL, then deposit for 5 minutes and I'm good to go.
Depending on what SORT of work you're doing, it's also worth mentioning pallets may be the more efficient choice. If you're doing SAM stuff, you'll get spotted after 1 or 2 takedowns, so having more than 2000 ammo is pointless. If you're doing a CRAM then you want much more to reload to the full 2k (and I think that's almost 3500 ammo)

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I straight up don't believe there has been more driver EXP earned than pilot EXP this weekend, if only because there are now several thousand people at 35 pilot, and not a single player has tanks unlocked yet.

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So they're just doing nothing about ESP hacks? Just watched a guy go 100+ kills multiple games in a row beaming people across the map in a truck.
>you probably got spotted
Being spotted doesn't lead to a full neck-head spray from 300m with a minigun through foliage.

>>581099532
Selling skins without selling skins, anon. Oh and pissing off all of us who don't want season wipes.

>>581100068
well ESP is essentially undetectable. It's the other aimbotting shit that gets caught.
If someone's ESPing you literally will never know, because the mechanics run cover for them (IE spotting).
You're complaining about different things.
And no they can't do anything against it. It's impossible to stop cheats with an anticheat, that's why it's important to have people (GMs) dedicated to policing the game.
That's also why community servers are great, admins can theoretically always be around to stop that shit within a minute or two.

>wardogs doing so well the publisher just increased their ownership stake in bulkhead
Ah yes the cycle continues. Next up, meddling. Then, layoffs. Finally, transfer of game management to a custodial team before EoS.

>come back from dropping people off and park in fob
>other pilot immediately parks next to me and tries to destroy my vehicle
Why are pilots so catty?

>>581100632
because there are only so many people to go around and that's the single best source of experience AND money while flying till you get the lakota and can do pallets

>>581099956
>more people driving but nobody has driven enough ural trips to get tanks
>fewer people have flown choppers but those who did earned more experience and some have gotten level 35

>>581100697
Kind of niggerish, exactly the type of shit I wish there was a vote kick for
Whenever it happens I just buy C4 and blow them up as they're leaving. Wreck my heli, I'll wreck yours

>>581100797
Every match I've been in, every video I've seen, and every piece of content relating to the game has FAR more pilots than drivers. It's only the last like 24 hours where we've seen people focus on logi driving with urals.

>>581099956
I guess it's probably tipped in the drivers' favor by the APC experience and random kodiak runs

>>581100972
>last 24 hours
brother I have been trucking since friday and so have plenty of other people in my games, maybe it varies by region. sometimes I have to stop because we have too many. I think the fact that the helicopters crash or get shot down or lose passengers half the time must factor in.
I've lost 2 trucks total on my logistics runs but I'm just short of level 15 after many hours or driving.

>>581101413
How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast?

>unlock t3 helmet
>deploy with tricked up AK, T3 helmet, T2 armor
>still dying as fast as when i had T2 helmet

fuck this i'm going back to my amazon prime air drop 9-5.

>>581101769
You're getting kneecapped, anon

>>581101769
thighs and knees take the same damage no matter what armor you're wearing, sitting under a truck in the middle of the road has gotten me more kills than the wildest drops in the HZ or unexpectant fob raids.

>>581101575
hungry, although I did eat breakfast. guess you dont have much else to say so youre trying to start shit instead.

>>581101769
Check out what you got killed by and then go into the firing range and test out that same gun against dummies using the armor you were using to see how much the armor actually reduces damage by. If you're still dying jsut as fast the sniper or gunner probably shot you in the legs/arms since body armor only covers the chest and helmet armor only covers the head. there's very specific hitboxes.

>>581102014
no, I'm pointing out you making an irrelevant observation just proves you can't understand objectivity or scope.

>>581102014
>I did eat breakfast
You literally just answered the question wrong, you mongrel

im so fucking tired of grinding support i just want a counter to the miniguns

>>581102137
oh shit I didnt know we had the king of data and objectivity in the thread. let me refine my position - go fuck yourself midwit faggot

>>581102356
miniguns like, the CRAM? or miniguns like the heli with miniguns?
Cause the CRAM has no real counter besides c4, but helis can be shot down with small arms fire, and manpads/maaws are both pretty good for it. 2 people with manpad can take down literally anything, just slightly stagger fire.

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>>581097894
90% of the levels being completely empty is whats killing me

>>581102270
yes I am familiar with memes, I've been on this site for your entire life

>>581102270
>Cherry picking responses is a sign of intelligence

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I'm responding to ragebait bots again I'm sorry guys, I told Jesus I would be better about this

>>581102848
no one's cherrypicking the response, he was pointing out how you responded to "all media posted by the official twitter shows way more piloting than driving going on in every situation" and you said "WELL IN MY GAMES". No one cares about your games, retard.

they should sell a quick unlock pack and wipe progression every month

>Everyone brings HMG humvees to the backlines
>AA stingers everywhere
>Not a single team can build a fob from the harassment

Amazing. The mortar situation solved itself because not a single logi can bring enough pallets to build a super fob or mortar fobs.

The only way to make mortar fobs is be outside CZ and being sneaky about it lmao

>>581098130
reduce your mouse sensitivity for helos and use the buttons for hard movements
so if you want to j hook or fast manouvers you do it with the keys and do the fine correction with the mouse
if Im doing a j hook I roll the mouse into the direction I want to go and hold S for pitch up, A or D for yaw and ctrl for neg collective

>>581098130
Flying in this game is dogshit. They are noticeably harder to control and maneuver than arma helis and that should not at all be the case.
I know multiple actual pilots including a former apache pilot that utterly despise Wardogs flying.

Absolutely reeks of shit devs making something hard to do for the sake of being hard to do.

>>581103023
I wasn't that anon you initially responded to. I wasn't following your conversation.
But he said "hungry," which is the correct response to your shit test

They could fix the wipe issue by rolling out servers that allow T2 armour as the max and nothing more powerful than the mini gun little bird

nobody cares about your debate

this 3 team game doesn't really work
2 of the teams fight and the 3rd team auto wins

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>>581103571
Im not a real pilot but I got the hang of arma flying pretty fast and Im not talking about reforger baby mode where helis can just smash through fences Im talking arma 2 helos where one fucking branch will fuck you up and it was still 100x easier than here even though treetops and powerlines have no collision in wardogs
you do the same landing 10 times and for no reason at all 2 times something will go wrong, your props explode randomly or you flip for no fucking reason

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>>581102928
Being able to recognize our mistakes is a sign of wisdom, and for you is a step in the right direction. Nobody is perfect. We do our best.

>>581103878
that's something you can set as a community server option, btw.

>>581103571
the vehicle handling both air and ground is DOGshit in this game

Flying in wardogs has been incredibly simple and easy and smooth for me to pick up.
Landing has been impossible. I've got maybe one successful landing out of several hundred lives at this point, it just doesn't happen. No matter what I do it never works out, I've watched dozens of guides and the shit doesn't work like they say it does, even if I copy settings 1:1, do exactly as they do with mirrored button presses, still functions WILDLY differently.

>>581104182
Real LB's are insanely nimble and while they can't do some of the crazy shit and landings that dudes like bigtoe do, they also don't handle like boats that swing wildly out of control just from holding a key one second too long like these pieces of shit do. Or put you on the verge of crashing cause you looked at the map for two seconds.

This game has worse flying than BF6 which is something I don't say lightly having like 600 hours logged in their jets and like 350 in helis. People are only in love with it now cause its something new. Attitudes are going to change drastically over the next week or 2 if they don't do something fast or at least announce they're working on unfucking them.

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>>581104205
thank fren

Glad I'm not alone hating the vehicle physics in this game.
I'm mostly upset about the Ural because i have real life experience with trucks, and they do NOT slide around like they do in this game. And if we're not going for realism then we should maximize for fun.

still a fun game tho. Every game has its problems.

>>581103023
>curated media posted by the official sources like twitter is anon's reality
>my reality is what I see and experience personally
were just built different

>>581104964
I still stand by the idea that they've inverted grip and handling on versus offroad. Go offroad, you basically NEVER spin out. EVER. Go on road, slight turn if you're at max speed and you do a 360. it's crazy how different it is.

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I’m not asking for cod tier action but infantry hot zone is effectively dead at this point and it’s only been a week. Has a match last night where I was green and me and 8 guys were just chilling in the HZ just getting pot shots at us and killing stragglers.


Like no one plays infantry now, and the hotzone moves in a way where I have to remind people in game to ignore fighting sniper shitters and follow the hotzone. If you team has super FOBs who then pull the zone it’s GG. It’s so odd an fps where the fps side of it sucks

>>581105106
Been seeing to much blowouts of people single teams getting 50 score while the other two mortar eachothers bases

>>581104675
Bongs have the same three month Christmas vacation that Swiggers do. They aren't getting changed anytime soon.

>>581105050
well yes, reality is what the devs display when we're discussing media they post and stats they post. They themselves are posting media that goes against the narrative they're trying to create that driving is somehow not completely and utterly fucked and unplayable, yet somehow accounts for more experience than flight despite there being 10+ helos start of match every match.

>join community server I tried out yesterday
>recognise a number of people from before
>expecting cool normal casual fun like last time
>nobody's talking in proximity anymore
>the team bants in chat are seeming more serious and heated than sarcastic
>a number of them are highly leveled and are sweating their asses off for some reason
>guy actually screams at me when he notices my quaint little mortar fob
i see

>>581105106
I think the issues would be fixed if we had 50 per team, pure infantry is too risky.

>>581104675
this game will be long dead before we see any noticeable changes

>>581105106
level 4 armor still gets you obliterated in 2 shots from a minigun little bird, why ever go infantry? You can pull HZ to your base for basically 0 cost at any point in time.
Mortars are too strong, vehicles are too strong, drill rigs are WAY too strong, there's nothing to make infantry a better option.

>>581105106
Squad has more action than hot zone gameplay

I’m convinced the circle also moves worse than it did in an Arma 3 mod

>>581105659
>there's nothing to make infantry a better option.
raiding the other bases is a good use of infantry. Did it with a couple of buddies earlier today. Just get a bunch of C4, and drive right up to it. Usually these bob builders have no idea what is going on around them so they won't notice until you are already killing them inside

>>581105635
I gave shart raiders about 3 months of life and I was close to being on the mark with that one.
I give this one maybe 4 or 5 so they do have some time to make meaningful changes.

what's with gamers obsession with "j hooks"? nobody does that in real life. gamers don't know how to slow a helicopter down?

>>581105930
>raiding bases is a good use of infantry
not better than using a vehicle to do it!
>just get a bunch of c4
or shoot it with rocket heli!
>usually those bob builders have no idea what's going on
exactly why vehicles shit on infantry.

Again, just because "it's okay" doesn't mean it's worth using. It costs MORE to send infantry than to use a $7k heli.

>>581105930
Most cost effective and easier to actually make a small mortar fob in the woods and start shelling early btw

They need to nerf the drill meta this shit is boring as fuck
Fuck buildniggers

>>581106121
The issue is you can't slow a helicopter down here. If you try to nose up and kill your speed or slow down, what happens is the game immediately reads that as "OH THEY'RE TRYING TO GO BACK" and instead of slowing down you immediately start going the same speed but in the opposite direction, there is no way to effectively slow down besides jhooking to go broadside.

>>581106179
Holy shit that’s evil just bum rush a mortar

>>581105106
the game needs some random objectives on the map you can capture and hold around the map for extra cash and/or points
not something fixed like the towers but something random so people wont build fobs around them
maybe a supply drop or some shit like that

>>581104964
why have I seen this exact post like 4 times
nobody gives a fuck bro. this is a video game and you're driving the truck 120kph on dirt roads. I guarantee you've never driven a truck like you do in the game you fuckwit. Stop holding W while you turn morons

>>581105106
Hotzone and even FOB raiding doesn’t give you shit it’s unironically a waste of time. You net $100k winning or losing as a logi or builder chad.

>>581104675
>le flying is bad I have 1000 hours in battlefield 6
Lmao are you serious nigger

>>581106304
I slow down perfectly fine. Lower your collective before you get to the LZ, not after you're already there. helis descend slowly but I'm barely 40m off the ground by the time I'm at the LZ anyways

>>581105106
We had multiple betas and people highlighted the issues.

>>581107073
>slow down before reaching LZ
>get obliterated by anti-air
no, I should be able to go full nose up and completely kill any and all momentum, it should not start sending me backwards.

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what's the play here?

>Infantry is dead!!!
It's absolutely fucking not. There's always squads pushing the HZ early in the round. But it IS one of the only roles in the game that actually takes micro skill. Aim sucks? No game sense? Shit positioning, poor execution under pressure? Yeah, you're probably not making money as infantry.

If you want to run infantry, you have two choices: have a 3.0kd, or find somebody on your team who does, and support by spotting, reviving/meding, and watching their flanks.

>But it should be profitable even if you blow fucking ass and die all the time!!!!
Yeah, and then nobody will engage with the other 90% of the game because why bother. There's already a huge implicit draw to playing infantry: it's a shooter and people want to shoot.

>>581106153
You have to buy ammo and flares for the helicopters. It costs about 13k for a helicopter load out because you want armor too or you get shot out of it. You barely break even if you use the bird for infantry, rocket bird makes more money targeting vehicles

>>581107157
create another fob closer to center map as an ACTUAL forward operations hub.

>>581107150
You're flying too high. AA can't even lock onto you if you fly at the tree line

>finish working at my job in the email factory
>come home
>make a good coffee
>load up Wardogs to drive an ural for a couple hours

Now this is video gaming.

For anyone struggling to get the ricochet achievement:
You can get it very easily using the MH6 (Miniguns).
enable mouse controls, set horizontal movement to Yaw, and vertical movement to pitch.
Set the sensitivity to about 10% or less and only use the mouse for aiming

Has anyone else noticed that red players often seen more tilted or easier to make assmad as an enemy?

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i need to learn to start leaving matches like this

>>581107717
why? just stay and get the exp bonus.

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>>581107765
not when shit like this happens in official servers

>>581107474
how did you prepare your coffee anon? my weekend gaming experience was very similar

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>decide to give drivecucking a shot
>run a few resupply runs on a mortar fob that's raping the enemy team
>after 3 runs I get kicked, presumably because the fob wasn't in the circle so I didn't enter it for a while
well that's fucking retarded, guess i'll never be driving again

>Join blue
>10 minutes in
>No logi
>No fob
Jesus christ it can't be this bad?

Think I'll take that mass disconnect as a sign to go make dinner and go to bed. It's 11 AM and I am a NEET
I was farming XP off the APC, too...

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>>581108039
forgot pick kek

>>581107594
yes I joined green late one match but they werent using the supplies I delivered, so at round start I went red and they were witch hunting everyone who switched over like it was a personal attack against their honor. I just like the color red and the filter is much nicer to look at than green or god forbid blue

>>581108034
it's a network error nobody booted you from the match. you don't have to go into the cz ever if you really don't want to

>>581098908
i am 38 and you have subhuman IQ if you think that allowing a couple of fat retard streamers in the game is bad for the game or affects you in any way. you are just seething because you don't get to make millions while playing video games and have to flip burgers for a minimum wage.

>>581106669
>Stop holding W while you turn
You literally need power going to the wheels to maintain traction while turning, you fucking pedestrian

>>581108321
that makes sense, I was kicked once total from this game and it was from being afk. I thought anons are out there getting caught with hax

>>581108506
you're holding W while you turn and wondering why you keep spinning out? are you serious? Lmfao you fucking retard

>>581108441
>breaks queue system in half
>leaves 300k people stuck in queue and craters reception of game
>steam reviews were stuck at mixed for the first 2 days
>only up to 80% positive now
I mean it's pretty clear it fucking ruined the reception of the game. In 2 months when the launch hype is dead and people are looking for shit to play, a game with a fuck ton of negative reviews is gonna get passed over, sorry.

>accelerating into corners instead of out of them
Who let you drive a vehicle

>>581099101
>It is objectively, provably, definitively because they catered to streamers that it was so fucked, they will make that mistake again UNLESS they are called out on it.
the issue here is that you are a technically illiterate nigger. you are not explaining anything to me. you have literally nothing to teach me because you are fucking braindead and know about as much about IT infrastructure as i know about rocket science. the issue was with the queue system being hammered and had nothing to do with a few streamers being put through. it's not that complicated if you are a white man with 3 digit IQ, which is clearly not your case. i wish you a better roll next life.

>>581108614
I have never spun out in this game, you fucking pedestrian.

>>581108441
well I am 36 so I apologize for calling you the z-word. my only problem with streamers, besides the fact that most produce look-at-me slop content for the underaged, would be if the rumors about their server priority are true because then I would have lost a full remote work day where I didnt have shit to do but game anyway.
as for your other implications I am actually pretty happy with my income and I'm glad I dont have to play vidya full time to make a living, I play games for fun and I'm allowed to stop and take long breaks without compromising my career.

>>581108274
Red is the only team I won't join. They're usually sweats and faggots

>>581109142
which is a shame because I like larping with slavshit and yelling through the loudspeakers with a mediocre eastern yuro accent

Money for kills being tied to their kit is gay as fuck. I run around with my 20k kit and get paid 800 for a kill because you broke fucks run around naked. Have to get 20 kills just to break even. HZ bonus is nice but I'm the only nigger in the circle half the time

>people care more about exp and progression than competing and winning the match

pilotfag here. i think that parachutes need to be removed and passengers must be dropped of, so that ground transport actually has purpose beyond yeeting pallets onto FOBS. also, higher passenger transport cash/XP bonus for ground and air transport.

>>581109142
Green has more sweats than Red, and Blue is more gay because all they do is gay erp all match long

>>581109031
Definitely not true considering you think you're supposed to accelerate while you turn lmao

>>581109376
whatever you do dont join that team those dudes will steal your whole loadout before they rez

>>581107947
I use a v20 filter when I can be bothered to do things properly.

>>581109376
Only thing I kinda wish is that kills in specific awarded assault XP, not what weapon XP you get being tied to what weapon you use
Like maybe I want to use an SMG as an assault or (more likely) I want to use an LMG

>>581109376
>Money for kills being tied to their kit is gay as fuck

what really? how does this work exactly? you get money for 50% of the target's kit price?

>Have to get 20 kills just to break even.

that's fucking hilarious

>>581109117
>I play games for fun and I'm allowed to stop and take long breaks without compromising my career.
come on son, we both know that's a massive cope. shroud is rumored to make between 10 and 20 million from the mixer deal alone back in the day. and that's just cherry on top of his entire streaming career income. he is sitting on top of a hill above LA and has generational wealth, he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to until his death. do you have that? i really doubt it. i am a civil engineer in yurop and could retire tomorrow too if i didn't want to buy fancy toys too but i am not anywhere near what these faggots make.

>>581109552
very nice, I broke my good pour-over and the one I have with mesh sucks

>>581109547
I'm not worried about that because my whole team will be standing around a FOB jerking off the guy next to them, of course. Nobody will be around to rez me anyways

>>581104182
>>581104541
Just don't land retards. You drop pallets from half a mile up and they will survive, most people buy a parachute out of habit, and even if they don't, you can just hover 5 feet off the ground and kick them out. You don't even need to land to refuel and restock, you can do it in midair.

>>581109451
Found the red

>>581109775
Why do you even think about these things like they are relevant? Not everyone is inspired to be a parasite for a living.

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To any and all cod kids and battlefield refugees please leave

Stop trying to turn this game into a shooter please

>>581109775
>come on son, we both know that's a massive cope.
Nta but who cares?
Yeah theres manchildren who make millions playing video games, theres whores making millions selling pictures of their buthole, and theres inbred third worlders making millions scamming the federal government.
Lifes not fair, you can either accept it or spend the rest of your life seething.

>>581106669
>>581108614
I saw people talking vehicle physics so I added my 10 cents to the conversation. Clearly I'm not alone.
It simply feels wrong. Sorry if that makes you upset.

>>581110808
It’s barely been a week and i absolutely detest the playerbase this game attracted

>>581110808
The only valid complaint is how effective mortars are

>>581107157
>what's the play here?
Change teams

>>581110808
How does building a base make too much money? How are people getting fat stacks from base building?

>>581110709
Found the blue

>>581110808
>battlefield refugees please leave
why?
we're having fun here

>>581110808
The devs won’t kill the game the god awful retards in the playerbase will

>>581111209
Don't complain about logistics then

>>581111209
Battlefield is no better than codslop and you BF shitters always think your welcome to milsim games with open arms

How’s battlefield 6 doing exactly

>>581111341
i wasn't. I think it's great

>>581111376
It's doing great

>>581110808
>Why do people want shooting to be more relevant in this shooting game?
I love Wardogs because it lets me sealclub pve boomerdads like this who can't point and click to save their fucking life

>>581110972
who asked?

>>581111521
it's not a shooting game

>>581111376
>How’s battlefield 6 doing exactly
The latest maps are pretty good actually. It's fun.
Besides, Wardogs is barely a milsim. It's highly accessible, which is why it has sold so well.

>>581111104
I'm trying to main blue, but it's God's work

>close range engagement
>shoot enemy 4 times in the chest with AR
>he shoots me twice in the chest with sks
>I die
>we have the same armor
playing infantry is a miserable experience

>>581111823
you're right it's actually a base building game
the shooting is just extra
that's sarcasm btw

>>581112073
>he shoots you with a bigger bullet
>you shoot him with a smaller bullet
>>wtf why he win?
Also start using SMGs, they are better than the assault rifles in every way

>>581111823
I'm not even slightly interested in your reasoning. I'm only replying to inform you that you're a gay retard

>>581112337
except range

they desperately need to reduce the cost of the stingray or make it use ammo supplies instead of mechanical. one or the other. otherwise nobody is ever going to use the thing and the tankfags are coming

I think talon launchers should eat up quadruple the ammo supplies.
so fucking spammable it's not even funny

>>581113139
Or maybe logicucks can just bring mechanical supplies instead of ammo?
The cost is fine too, it is an absurd hard counter to spawn vehicles, artillery and tanks.

>>581109395
Removing is too harsh. You don't wanna take the paratrooper feel away from people. Don't make them buyable instead. Little birds shouldn't have any, and Black hawks should have the 'deploy when jump' system. In other words, the parachute activates the moment you exit the chopper. It adds tension if you have a long way down or you have to have a skilled pilot that knows the minimum flying height for a successful fast LALO style chute drop. Needs comms and skill to pull off.
Little birds could have roped insertions, which require a moment of stability (again, pilot skill) during the descent of players. You can only activate the ropes under a min height treshold.

>>581113139
Mechanical Supplies seem kind of pointless desu, at least give them a use other than the Stingray

>>581113339
>t. wants to go 150/0 in a game while ur enemies have no counter play at all

>>581113489
Hard counter? The stingray barely turns. If you notch the stingray like you're a fighter jet notching a missile it literally cannot hit you. Someone shot a stingray at my Kodiak yesterday and I literally just turned away from it lmao

>>581112337
applying the realism angle here is retarded since it doesn't apply anywhere else in the game. why do high tier helmets stop full power ap rounds? suddenly game balance is more important than realism. the reality is realism isn't a factor the game is just unbalanced

>>581113591
They might start becoming more useful now that tankfags are unlocking the tank. They're used for fuel and repair stations which are useless at the moment

>>581113591
Tank monkeys can use them to repair at FOBs

>>581113653
stingrays are for the big slow vehicles. MSV, artillery, and tank.
Anything else is a waste of money. The person who launched a stingray at your kodiak is a retard, that does not mean the stingray is bad.

whats the comfy truck supply run grind?

They should add a propeller transport plane. And that plane should be the ONLY vehicle that can deploy parachutes

doomgawds....

>>581114569
It doesn't matter. You can out turn a stingray in a tank. People will die to the drone for a week or two until they figure out you can just drive away from it. I wish there was a way to shoot a drone at myself so I could show in a webm

>SKS and AK
Is the game going to add bayonets?

being a buildercuck pays incredibly well but doing it feels like it corrupts your soul somehow

>>581113651
>talons should be spammed otherwise we lose
speaks volumes

>>581113339
talon is fucking worthless against a non retard pilot anyways bro

>>581115548
factually wrong
opinion discarded

>>581115548
The CWIS is the real scary installment for good pilots. Stick one of those in your fob and you'll never get bothered again, or it's a free kill if they do. I love melting cocky birds that think they're invincible because they're too low for a stinger or talon

Little bird pilots should be locked in a cell with a nigger rape gang until they die from ass wounds

>>581113339
>>581115427
How about we nerf the talon and buff the CIWS

>>581115674
talon is garbage and if you die to it you're trash. talon can't even lock me and if it does flares make me invincible, what are you doing noob?

>>581096787
We have to wait and see. I believe the meta is going to turn into the old tarkov meta, buy hp ammo and aim for the legs. Currently hp on snipers is a 1 shot to the dick on armor level 1,2,3.

>>581115227
Wrong.
it should pay good.
only thing decent about this hogwash piece of shit

>>581115227
How do you make money building?

>>581116014
flesh ammo also unlocks way earlier than ap
t3 armor protects the dick tho
have to hit their legs

>>581116014
"leg meta" was always a meme because you'll get folded if you ever fight an enemy standing behind waist height cover

Its insane
Less than a week and the gameplay is already functionally dead
There are 20 different cancer metas stuck on top of eachother and every day it gets worse
Immortal humvees thats cost more to destroy in the price of an rpg+rockets than they cost to buy, mortar spam, minigun helis, arty tanks
Whoever decided that vehicles that have more impact than 5-6 infantry players should have half the price of an endgame infantry kit should be raped by a pack of aids niggers

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had a pretty fun match today
>get on team green gods
>three helis and 6 goddamn logis
>i play heli taxi for a while, logis keep dumping pallets on towers
>on my third trip back we still don't got a fob, so i bring one
>place it at tower and the big unpacking begins
>we're leading 1-1-35, as it should be
>someone activates our tower and pulls the hot zone
>enemy player jumps out right next to the tower, of course he is gunned down midair
>loot him for a sweet mosin, first time i get to use it
i left once we hit 45 points or so, unlocked the rpg back in main menu

>>581116370
It truly is potentially the worst fucking balancing I've ever seen in a shooter.

The RPGs are prohibitively expensive, heavy, inventory space hogs and the good bags are gated behind high playtime requirements. On top of that you still need 3+ shots and to probably bring along some C4 if you want to actually fucking kill a vehicle. Utter fucking dogshit.

>no actually infantry makes tons of money!
>all you gotta do is play medic and recon at the same time instead of shooting anything and also have a team that doesn't sit in their fob the whole match so you can revive them and get rez'd when you die so you don't lose any money
>oh you're the only guy pushing the HZ or other fobs? Uhh idk go next I guess
kek

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>>581116169
Incorrect. Only t4 protects your dick

>>581116136
unpacking pallets and completing a structure gives money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xinkZKJuQlw
new carrot

holy shit even the crying vehiclebabs from battlefield carried over here

>no one has unlocked aa launchers yet
>heli fags already seething in chat that people are shooting at them with their rifles
I eagerly look forward to the colossal meltdown of helifags once people unlock the portable AA launcher

>>581116370
I'm at the point where I'm just going to rush the HZ every time, and if I die instantly I'm just going to respawn and do it again, and again, and again. I don't care anymore if I go broke because sitting around doing nothing is objectively worse in every way. Like what's the point of even sitting in a FOB and making money if you aren't going to do anything.

Funny enough, it's like being a rich streamer. Sure, you can have millions in the bank, but what does it matter when you don't have the imagination or lifestyle to even realize it? Your bank account goes up another million, but each day is just groundhog day where you sit back and do nothing, go nowhere, and ultimately achieve nothing.

I LOVE HESCO ToT

>>581116729
I truly believe that all vehicles which are non-transport related should have their costs increased by 5-10x
Humvees should be 20k
Minigun humvees should be 30k
Minigun helis should be 35-40k
Arty tanks should be 50-60k
Tanks should be 80-100k

It makes no sense that you can kill 4 guys with an arty tank with functionally 0 risk and already make profit when an infantry medic needs to pull off 10 revives under constant threat of gunfire
Vehicles should be a massive financial risk, not free money

>>581116370
so... whatever youre complaining about can be fixed with some minor admin modifications? maybe time to run a server and solve all the issues

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>Infantry definitely doesn't need buffing. That's just coming from people who can't kill. Plain and simple.

>However I do think there needs to be more incentive to not just have 3 teams all sat in their own bases doing nothing but building. I just played a full game where there was barely any real fighting. Just artillery and base building.

I hate redditors so much, man. How is it possible to have this little comprehension or awareness?

>>581117575
>just pay 120$ a month to fix and play a game devs are too retarded to balance on their own even though its the most obvious shit ever
t. Goyimus maximus, commander of the goycattle legions of the east

>enemy built a mortar before us?
>gg
>swap servers
Wardogs

i can not fucking wait for a "no build" server option to be added to this game

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when are we getting this gameplay feature?

>>581117810
if you were half as smart as you were pretending to be, money wouldn't be an issue

deployables should be limited per FOB
PERIOD.
you should be rewarded for good placement
Not because you had 2 guys cover every square inch of it with mortars like fucking carpet!

>>581118292
why the fuck can you build 3 or 4 drills in a single fob
why the fuck can your team have more than 1 drill to begin with
did the devs not playtest this?

I love being a medic. Havent unlocked the medbag yet, is it good? can it be quickslotted?

>>581116805
Spotting and hitting defibs are so easy, acting like it's a full time job is disingenuous. Every spot is a guy who won't be able to kill you, and every revive is a warm body to get shot so you don't have to. It's not like there's anything better to bring in the specialist slot anyway.

>I'm the only one assaulting hz/fob!!
I mean sure that's tough, but if you can't rally homies then just go cheap kit+atv and grief supply lines, super easy to get like 5 free kills on logistics and base builders and you can grab their kit anyway

Feels like most "infantry sux!!!" Posters are just mad that players of middling skill can't role completely solo and get super rich doing nothing but shooting with no support.

>>581118490
medbag is great, full heals
i just want to know how many uses it has

>>581118097
I have plenty of money, I go net positve on 80-90% of my infantry lives
That does not counter any of my points, I can easily bring nothing but a large hammer and make more than I would playing infantry
I can spam mortars and make more than I would playing infantry
I can use minigun helis or humvees and make more than I would playing infantry

Is it a skill issue? No, the economy is simply absurd and actively incentivizes playing non-infantry roles

>>581118470
>did the devs not playtest this?
You do know WE'RE the playtesters right?
The only difference is we paid THEM to work for them

>>581117037
>completing a structure gives money
Something other than hescos? Because those weren't giving me shit

>>581118742
isnt it infinite, drags money?

>>581118753
>actively incentivizes playing non-infantry roles
That's the point retard. Running around playing call of duty IS the reward if you aren't a shitter. The fact that it's profitable at all is just the icing on the cake. If the other roles weren't profitable they wouldn't get done. See: literally every fucking multiplayer game with dps vs non-dps roles

I don't even know why I keep arguing about this, since it's ultimately just a skill issue. I'm up 1.1 million, run a 16k kit every round and make shitloads of cash just running and running wirh a revive here and there. Could I be up like 2 mil if I base bitched? Probably, but who cares? I have more than I'd ever need.
The games not hard, learn to play

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>>581118951
that would seem broken, with bandages having limited uses

>>581118786
>muh early access
Well aware. still concerning how poorly some of these systems they've designed interact together though, and that it got to an "early access" state like this. It just seems like they needed to run something longer than a weekend playtest in order to get data about the long-term state of the game. seems like they should have run one for a week and made revisions before launching, but maybe they didn't have the funds left in the tank for that? Who knows, but they have a shit-ton of balancing to unfuck ahead of them, and the core features of their singular game mode don't interact quite well together. I'm concerned to say the least.

the honeymoon is fading...

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The things you see when going camping

>>581117887
>grab a fob and some supplies in a car
>stick it innawoods in some random spot
>countermortar their fob
>????
>profit

>>581119454
the first game I ever bought on launch and yes
im 28yo

>>581119642
AI video
I can tell because blue is winning