Carl Gustaf Edition>What is Wardogs?A planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad-like with 3 teams and 100 players, from the developers of such classic and beloved titles as Battlion and KillrunLaunch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo810 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4Anti-Cheat Infohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FAHelpful Links:https://wardogs.zone/Previous: >>581094092
>>581187801Reminder that only furries are allowed on red team.
>>581187801Reminder that only furries are allowed on green team.
Copying from prev bread>>581179659I'm an extremely good sniper in FPS games in general. The kind who deals with the 5 counter snipers by killing them all.There's no real way to conceal yourself in this game without changing positions frequently. That's because all rounds are tracers. Doesn't matter if you're suppressed and hidden, your tracers will lead enemies to your position after a few shots.So, safe/low-skill recon play is as follows:>Option A: snipe from bushes and reposition after every few shots. By reposition I mean moving at least 100m behind buildings or trees. Running to another bush 20m away does nothing.>Option B: Just spot everything, all the time. This is actually extremely helpful for your team and while it's slower, you'll also rack up cash very easily
Pointing my binoculars at a retirement home and making mad bank when they all die of old age
>>581188270Actually getting kills is a shit way to level recon. Just spot everything like a cuck.
I got 2 LB kills today.Soon.
Down to 13k now, just can't seem to get any kills and I keep having to redeploy within minutes of getting to the HZ, fuck man. It's always a distance kill too by someone level 50+
>>581188270>I'm an extremely good sniper in FPS games in general. The kind who deals with the 5 counter snipers by killing them all.Can you record a video and reply to this post? I would like to see how one can do that. I can get one or two but after that spotting the remaining while the first ones are getting up ends up being too much for me
>>581188758Just spam mortars.
>playing wardogs>watching others play wardogs>thinking about wardogsI can't believe I'm addicted to this slop.
>>581189061I don't know how to use them, don't want to risk friendly fire.
>>581189153PLAY LIKE YOU USED TO BABYcan't believe battalion fuck up devs brought THE REAL FPS GAMING back from matchmaking 5v5 bullshit
they may be slightly tired of me
whoosh
shot a maws through the windshield then out the tiny back window of the ural. bro luckiest driver of all time
>I shall fly directly at the guy with a pile of stingers next to him
pisses me off you cant just shoot this thing
comfy
>run out of stingers while camping enemy base>request heli pilot to drop me crate of stingers>he marked them up 75%>dont buy any of them and just go back to base on my own for moreyou wasted money, greedy dog
one more and i can have AT mines.... just one more...
>>581189153Last game i was addicted to like this was Battlebit. This game makes it worst by giving u grind incentives in your own way with little frustration to achieving your goals, its not even funny anymore..
>>581187905that's adorable
>>581190420Enjoy doing it all over again because the game is going to wipe in less than a month
>>581190997i will
How does this compare to Planetside 2?Been looking for something to scratch that itch, but nothing really has.
>>581191042I don't need to see the replies to know it's full of complaints about mortars
>>581191042the grind is ridiculous considering it's going to wipe once a month. People WILL abandon the game.
Ive stopped playing infantry and now just sit at a tower FOB all game with a big hammer and rangefinder makes me 100k a game instead of losing a 13k kit to a bad pilot or a guy camping
>>581191142very similar vibe
>>581191042Hes really beating the "refund the game if you dont like it guys!" bit into the fucking ground
>>581191042why is he such a faggot
>>581191042Not very keen on the level or unlockable wipes. But what bulkhead can do as an incentives is to reset the level and start those who has gone to more then lets say WD30 will have an offset and start with WD10. Then it resets to 1 when ur offset has reached maximum levels and you get huge amount of Gold as an incentive. Have players something to work for instead of just beeding to reset and work back to highest WD levels for nothing. Class levels dont need offsets as long as you get the good stuffs from WD levels i think you are good to go for class levelling.Thats just my honest opinion.
>>581191962He didn't mention refunds once in that entire post, take your fucking meds doomposter shill
is the game good? thinking of buying it
i love shooting logi niggers and spawn apcs on the way to the CZ with my big green MAAWck
I wish it was easier to earn XP, I'm like level 30 in Support and level 9 in everything else
this game is unbalanced as fuck every match is a one-sided stomp kek
>>581192879The problem with the levelling is that its directly tied to the metagame. The quicker people reach driver and pilot 35, the quicker servers start to have tanks and havocs. And all it takes is one player to unlock them for the entire balance and gameplay of that server to change. To give an example, in the first few days no one was worried about humvees, now they are and more people are carrying about launchers. No one was worried about logistics routes being ambushed, now they are.Some people will definitely prefer the previous metagame, so the devs need to find a way to compartmentalise each metagame stage, without just increasing the grind even further because then normies with a life will never get to the endgame.
>>581193216dont worry, just wait a bit, they're going to increase the price later
Aren't those walls supposed to have barbed wire?
>>581193643Blue gets fucked by the map and retardation, other teams get fucked by retardationOther than that the game is balanced, people are just not playing with a mindset that allows comebacks.They see 0-10-40 they say oh well it's lost, better farm some more money and don't give a shit.
>>581191042I hate this faggot so much its unreal
>>581193898i think they used to. devs removed it for some reason
>75k for the hammer that builds AAThis is cancer.
>enemy builds a faggot-ass FOB>i switch teams and dismantle itSimple as. No fags in my games.
>truck full of faggots>miss my MAAWSfuck i'm a little bitch for that
>build epic FOB>enemy gets so assblasted over it he swaps teams to grief itkek, enjoy the ban retard
>>581194048EPIC! here's your reddit gold, good sir!
>>581191142planetside had 10x more players, more unlocks, more vehicles, bigger maps, more varied maps and you still didnt have to fly for 5 minutes back to action
what's the gigacash strategy? i dont really care about winning
Enjoying Wardogs a lot more after I converted my sensitivity from BF6 to Wardogs. T-21 I like more than the Galil.
>>581193653This is why i suggested some kind of reward by the end of the season. Something you can keep forever. I know the money can be converted for gold for skins.. but they need to compensate something for levelling up both WD and Class levels. Players always looking for incentives and rewards for their hard earned hours of playing. If i play for 100hrs and it wiped and have no rewards for all those levelling up, its just a complete waste or time to play.
>>581194087Ffs when is PS3 coming out?
they call me the zestafona grim rapeethe toucher of fobsthe breaker of gatesthe fucker of trucksthe diddler of helicopters
>>581194160Trucking pallets give you a solid 100k-ish in any match irregardless of team performance
I think today I'll build a loudspeaker and have myself a karaoke session
>>581194160Pray youre on a team with fobbers and ask someone to build you a mortar
>>581193653They should have no wipe servers and seasonal wipe servers so people can choose what they like better.
>>581194525never ever, UE5 cant handle more than 100 players
>>581194764I’ve been building loudspeakers and spamming duty propaganda as Valkrya
I be up to no good, no good at allcompression is so ass with all the foliage kek but that's a spawn apc
>>581194949How do you anons play music? Just put a phone on your mic?
>>581194949https://youtu.be/w3VeKnW9cNo?is=s0cRrQNgLRQonvlY Play this on loop
What's the easiest/cheapest way to level support? I want the pump action because shotguns actually feel good but 2 is too few against level 2+armor. I tried building random stuff in the Czech but it was worth like 2-3 xp at a time and I felt like I was taking up space uselessly. Totally new so I can't just roll with the lmg yet.
coming to a logi route near you (for another level until i get AT mines)
>>581195358Nah doesn’t fit the theme of PMCs >>581195257I use voicemeeter banana. There’s a couple of tutorials on youtube but basically you want to combine your mic in with your internet browser and then select that output as your mic in game. I put my mic on B1, nigganet exploder on B1 and A1 (A1 is audio output so you can also hear it) then select B1 as my mic in Wardogs.
>>581195372Your answer
>>581195465Is partisan shit in this game actually effective? I'm tempted to buy the RPG and build a fuckton of tank traps in the backlines
>>581195602Driving supplies then? For some reason I thought that gave driving xp instead. Thanks.
>>581193653yeah issue is most of this shit is behind grindwall so if you're behind on support for example sucks for you you're getting assraped
>>581195656>RPGLMFAO.Niggerdevs made it useless. Level up until you can buy the MAAWS
>>581195721I see. thanks. I tried to just machinegun people but it doesn't work.
>>581191042some incentive to actually win beyond a pittance of cash would be nice.
>>581195656>>581195721I had a bad time trying to be a partisantranny. Turns out the RPG isn't underpowered. It only seems underpowered because the correct place to hit wheeled vehicles is the driver or passenger seat door. Not the windshield, not the engine block, not the wheels, not the fucking ammo pallet full of explosive ordnance. The fucking doors guarantee a one-shot against urals, and will disable a humvee in 2. THE FUCKING DOORS NIGGA?!?!?!?!?!!?!
>>581188270option C - both, spot first, then snipe once the enemy has more to care about than just you
>>581195656Not really. You can be mildly annoying to air if you drive around with a SUV full of iglas but you’re more valuable being inside the zone.
>>581195721its not bad if you come across an apc or an m249 kodiak, and is mildly useful if you need to blow the wall off a building from a distancealso very fun if you manage to shoot helis down with itit really ought to do more to humvees though
How much money do you doing logi in a Ural VS doing it in a Lakota?
>>581193653Just put in limited loadouts server (role rank 15 loadouts only) for latecomers and casual so they can play the game without feeling like they're stomped due to unlock difference.Apparently there are words that they might put in blank check mode where everything is unlocked but you don't spend or gain money. Only gaining experience.
>>581196023Urals carry two pallets so twice as much
>>581196023its probably more if you do it with the lakota and are good pilot but the big logi money comes from supply assists from people getting mortar kills etc and thats just a lottery and doesnt really have any bearing on whether you are a truck or a heli
>>581196083a good heli pilot can do more than 2 round trips before a ural can finish one, and drop supplies inside a fob under attack from all sides to boot
>airdrop crates of medkits so my team doesnt have to use shitty bandages instead>nobody ever buys them
>>581196083But the thing is that Lakotas get to and from fast enough that I feel like it would aty least even out.>>581196176For the assists you have to load the mats into the FOB yourself, right?
>>581195708Dropping supplies give u support XP. U get shit ton of support assist when they use your supplies.
>>581195656A kodiak full of stingers for to shutdown airspace or HMG Humvee patrolling logi trucks route (spawn camp enemy APC too. I've been in a match where my Humvee spawn camped red's APC for a whole hour and nobody ever tried to escort it)RPG isn't good btw, work on MAAWS or play with Kodiak full of stingers if you've unlocked it. If you're feeling brave then build a sneaky AA fob near enemy spawn with a truck with double ammo crates, bring building supplies on your truck's inventory and your backpack.
automate drivingor give me subway surfers targets along the road to keep it interesting
>>581196294no you just have to drop the pallets off
>>581194889I THINK community servers right now can override progression? As in "everyone has unlocked lvl x of y" they should just community servers keep that setting after wipe
>>581195978>its not bad if you come across an apc or an m249 kodiakkodiaks can be beaten by small arms...And i fired all 3 rockets into an apc and it just drove offWhen i factor in the cost, weight, long reload speed, arming distance, and overall likelihood of it paying for itself... RPG = bad. The cards are stacked against it.I'm down 50k by bringing it into battle, hoping it will pay for itself somehow. But it practically never does.
>>581196176>its probably more if you do it with the lakotaYeah but>Try to fly supplies anytime but game start>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again>WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAAAAAA>Flare after the missile is in the air>Instantly locked on again
>>581196385I don’t think so, at least yet based on what they showed in the server RCON tool video.
>>581196023you get much more with the helo but it requires a lot more skill and is much more dangerous
good support passive farmbuy one thingy of ammoput it in a friendly fob with emplacementsbuy multiple if you have multiple fobs active
>>581196385There are community servers that disabled mortars, tanks, drill towers, humvees and several other things yeah
>>581196627Yep. I always buy one box of ammo supplies. Lasts quite awhile too.
>>581196627you mean i should buy a car, buy a crate and fill it with ammo?i usually buy a crate full of inhalers and grenades, those go pretty well
>>581196513kodiaks can be beaten by small arms yes (carefully) but not instantly unless you have multiple people shooting at it from all sidesas for the apc, you mustve been shooting its heavily armored front like a retard
>>581196684One of the ammo supply crates that go in your inventory
>>581196751The APC tanks a rpg to the rear with no issue. The same goes for the humvee (which is bullshit imo)
>>581196843i double tapped an apc from the rear with rpg yesterday
>spawn>make huge flank to the north>start to walk towards enemy fob from the most unexpected angle possible>beamed by a nigger in a random building
why is playing as infantry so shit cash-wise?
>>581196372I see, thanks. I guess my teams are just full of speds who can't kill helos lmao.
>>581196751>as for the apc, you mustve been shooting its heavily armored front like a retardI shot 1 in the side, 2 in the rear.
>>581196804on foot or from vehicle?and when filling a crate is there a shortcut to buy more faster?clicking for every single item is rather annoying
>>581197032On foot. Go to the fob’s radio tower and open its inventory. Right click the ammo crate in your inventory to deposit.
>>581194334There is a permanent rewards system that has been in development for a year. As you level up classes and get xp, you get skill points that give small upgrades like reviving faster as a medic, or better fuel efficiency as a pilot. I hoped it would be in the game for early access but no, maybe we will get it for season 2. The devs have said that they're tracking all xp earned which will be applied retroactively once the update releases.Theres also a bunch of other stuff in this video that no one talks or knows about, like buying businesses with your cash to create weapons or vehicles over time, kinda like the hideout in Tarkov, and missions for extra rewards, COD style wagers. A lot of cool stuff.
>>581196997Odd. I wonder if the back has multiple hitboxes
>>581196967pay less, loot more
>>581196684items>building, you can buy the tiny 1x1 supply stack
>>581196943yeah i'm dying to a lot of suspicious shit tonight
I havent had fun in a multiplayer fps since bf3. I like this game. Needs more content though
>>581196916I think the red canister on the back takes more damagekilling the APC is shit anyway, if you can catch it without a driver it's best to fuck up the antena and leave it unless it's in their fob or something
>>581197169It’s honestly crazy I have t seen in game gambling in FPS games ever since !bet ct all from custom CSS servers.
>>581197223that's besides the point10k for minigun littlebird w/ full ammo where you get anywhere from like 20 to 100 kills or20k for your fatboy setup and you get headshot by a faggot with mosinand how many kills do you need to pay off that kit?
how to solve team joining when solo: auto select. playing with friends but you want to be on the same team? party system join or join via steam. that way people cannot avoid team lonestar (blue)
>>581197343>hat's besides the point>20k for your fatboy setupHow is it besides the point when you make it the point?I bring maximum 6k going infantry, and loot the rest. If it's high risk then I lower it to around 3k.
>>581196967Because people are playing it wrong. Its not battlefield or call of duty or even insurgency where you rush in, get one kill, die, respawn.Your body armor can absorb up to like 500 damage, you're supposed to wear it out. If you die and respawn and your armor still had 80% durability, you fucked up. You should be constantly getting healed or revived in a single respawn, thats the way to actually play assault.
>>581197343What does a $20k kit get you. I don’t know why anyone would bring in anything more than a rifle, 2 mags two stacks of loose ammo, free revive, 2 stacks of meds and 2 grenades
>>581197524>Its not battlefield>You should be constantly getting healed or revived in a single respawn, thats the way to actually play assaultbut thats how you played in battlefield back in the day... do people not do that in bf anymore?
t3 armor costs 3k alone u broke boys
>>581197324"PLAY LIKE YOU USED TO" is pretty cringe, but it is true that things like ingame wagers have completely died out and been replaced with real money wagers for lootboxes.
u guys buy armor and helmets? i just kill someone and take theirs
>>581197497its more expensive to go relatively kitted than buying a tank and you are super vulnerable, is the point. i understsand you can scavenge, low iq nigger. please dont presume like youre telling anyone anything you dunning kruger fuck>>581197586defibs cost more than your kit, but whatever
>>581197619am poor
>>581197470Better solution. Sort all players by their lifetime winrate. Bottom half is only allowed to play lonestar
>>581197603Unc...That hasn't been battlefield for more than a decade. If you die in a bad position its much easier to just respawn on a squadmate nearby than wait for a teammate to rez. The only reason you would wait for rez is if you really really care about your K/D.
>>581197619Haven’t unlocked it yet but I’d probably only buy T3 helmets and stick to T2 armor.
>>581197524lol. my squad gets 100+ kills with minigun humvees. tell me more about your armor
>>581197816*maaws u*
>>581197716I take revives from the person I’m reviving or from the ground
Are latejoiners fucked? I just joined sunday and it felt like I have no chance.Should I just wait for the next wipe? Fucking hate this tarkov advantage bullshit...
>>581197684you kill people? I just steal gear from my teammates.
>>581197768but what about the tickets...
>>581197908Not at all.
>>581197908I wouldnt say fucked, but the game sure was a lot more fun when it was mostly boots on the ground.
>>581197716>is the point.you specified this point post hoc to save face, after I made my point which is that I don't spend 20k on an infantry setup. And you said infantry is shit cash-wise, which it isn't. Now you wanna move the conversation to where you can win an argument.
>>581197926>die>get revived>I am now nakedyou're jewish, aren't youfucking vultures
>>581198048why would you presume taht i didnt know you could pick loot up? you fucking imbecile
>>581198048>>581198135to be more specific, because you seem to need it; i am obviously?????????????? (obviously) talking about buying the stuff you unlock per the progression system, per the devs intentions. if anyone littered the roads would eb fuck you indian retard (ie someone has to buy the gear)
>>581198135It was just a friendly reminder <3
>>581197619>red guy in bushes in t3 with big ass backpack full of shit>killed him with nothing but a free backpack stuffed with grenades>hear him start to bitch as I walk away with his entire kitwhos the broke boy now
>get out of truck >it deposits me underneath the truck>i die to collision damagenice game
>>581198315>game makes vehicle collisions do 10000 damage for some reason>at the slightest nudge above a certain detected speedThe devs are really genuinely retarded, and it shows.
theyer probably going to have to rethink the progression
>>581197649What's going to end up happening is chinese bugmen are going to bet a 12 leg parlay and go to the corner of the map with another bugman and cheese the system.
>>581197343I kill minigun littlebird in one verba for $800I kill your chonker ass with one AMP-9 for $900 (plus magazine tip). In 13 bullets to the chest. It takes 0.8sThanks for all your shit bro, hope there's a heli waiting so you don't need to drive all the way to give me a re-up
>>581198395we need faster unlock for mobile AAand buff RPG effectiveness against Humvees
>>581198395That's why the first wipe is only a month. To see how it's balanced.
>>581198129
>>581197603Heartwarming: 97 year old gamer still plays battlefield the old-fashioned way
>>581198129I do this but to enemies and tell them to run back to their fob.
>>581197954The what?Whatchu talkin bout unc, we farming k/d fr fr bussin 6 7
>>581198431and ive had 400k profit rounds despite your larp
>>581197816>clicks on all your wheels with a buckshot shotty onceThat's right lil bitch, run
>>581197524>Its not battlefieldfeels like battlefield... but with fewer vehicles (for now)>>581197768>That hasn't been battlefield for more than a decade.>a decade.some of us uncs have been playing battlefield for TWO decades :)
>>581198430Thats probably why they held off on many of the upcoming features. Their limited playtests against coworkers and limited alphas with dedicated fans will never compare to the boundless autism of bugmen willing to do literally anything to get ahead.
>>581197619t3 armor and helm increases my worst case ttk on you by 0.34s from the unarmored guy. And the unarmored worst case is hands which I aint consistently hitting even if I wanted to
>>581198950proofs?
>>581198765>>>581197768>>That hasn't been battlefield for more than a decade.>>a decade.>some of us uncs have been playing battlefield for TWO decades :)Yea that would be the point how could it change from a decade ago if it didnt exist a decade+1 ago
>>581197259Must be some new cheat out, people are shooting me in the head from 800m through walls kek
>>581199093you lost me
>>581199162>>581197259same, headshots through walls from pretty far
>>581198950My bad it actually it increases worst case by fucking 0 I was looking at level 4 timingshttps://wardogs.zone/calculators/damage?w=mp9&h=heavyhelmet&v=heavyarmorhttps://wardogs.zone/calculators/damage?w=mp9
Can you sell goldbars? My goal for this month is just to get 1, but I dont wanna buy the top. Still unsure how that whole "marketplace" determines price
>>581199301>>581199004
>>581199093Anon... the first battlefield came out in 2002....You are old... and getting older...Your memory is waning...
>>581199387Time in the market > timing the market
>>581199419
>>581199484You better be right :() If I end buying the top ill hate u forever
>>581199502I'm sorry bro...
alright I unlocked the LMG, what's the play with it? sit in a lookout at the fob and be defence or are there better playstyles with it?
>it's a horde of logis keep dumping pallets and no one brought a fob episode
>>581199747
>>581199202>>581199419Okay, so lemme explain>that hasn't been (how people play) battlefield for more than a dacadeMeans there is some point in time that was a decade+ ago that changed how people play bfNot that it was the beginning of bf
>>581199750Unlock bipod, get a good scope then at the start of the game buggy into enemy tower. Hide in a building and start beaming fobbits from 200 meters
>>581199750you actually need level 18 for the bipod or its worthless. i mean its hard to use anyway. anything that isnt the m4 or a sniper is roleplaying really
>>581199894Old image but you get it
>>581200036>buggy into enemy tower. >Hide in a buildingwhich one? Tower or building?
>>581200109Just get on nearby building close to enemy towers.
>>581196176>camp mortar heavy fob with ammo supplies in backpack>Only last player to deposit ammo get assists>deposit 1 unit after every ammo palletNothing personell logi kid
>>581198567i havent played battlefield since bad company 2 beta desu
huh
>>581201760just lonestar things
>shoot a ural directly in the engine block with a maaws>doesn't even do 50% of the vehicle HP>shoot it in the door>1 shot explosion?????would love to hear the thought process behind that one
>>581201760hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>581188919Not him, but most snipers in games are braindead retards that cluster together in high places. Usually all you have to do is already be ranged in and you can line up headshot after headshot while they keep peeking from the same spot. If you kill one, there's two or three more lined up behind him who all think that they're somehow built different from the guy who just got his head blown off and if THEY peek that angle then it will be a totally different outcome.
fun mortar sim
Fob faggots are the worst. I wrote that even before I fell into one of their faggot hole and got stuck. If I didnt have a grenade to suicide with ...
>>581197716>>581197497>>581197343>artillery tank + full inventory of shells>10k>low risk and high reward>geared infantry with armor, a primary, a maaw and heals>20k>high risk and low rewardI genuinely don't understand what they were thinking
>>581202494Explosion inside is gooder. How's the rocket gonna come in, if not through the door, are u stoopid?
>>581203045how is there no redeploy button?
>>581203368There is. That anon is retarded.
>>581203397literally where
>>581203397where is it?
>>581203453>>581203470
>>581203453>>581203470Just press esc nigga damn. It's greyed out for 30 seconds so you have to stare at the esc menu until it pops up.
>>581203562>It's greyed out for 30 secondsthat's fucking retarded
>>581203531>>581203562Soka... in my defense that thing doesnt pop up when youre in the spawnzone. So Imma take that as a moral victory :)
Is there any point to playing FOB-minecraft outside the objective area? Seems like extreme waste of dosh and resources.Or is it just a xp farm? Do you even get support xp if you build shit outside the area
>>581203662yes it doest. in the spawnzone right now
>>581203690You can bully logisticsfags and that's both impactful and fun. It just isn't lucrative.
>>581203662or maybe it does idk. The point was more that FOB faggots suck ass and ruin the pacing of the game.>>581203719Oh well. You win some, you lose some :=)
>>581203804does anyone get anything from those off-site fobs?
>>581203562>>581203531does this count as a death? what's stopping me from pressing this button when I'm surrounded by enemies and almost dead
>>581203976it takes 30 seconds. they'll kill you first
>>581203976the 30 second timer
what do you do when the team is completely broken into pieces, FOBs have fallen, and nobody is pushing HZ? Leave match?
>>581203093im starting to get into games wehre there are no kills on the feed for like minutes at a timebuilding a base and shelling eachother is an easy 70k+ profit
>>581204037start spotting/sniping, building a random fob, or saboteur shit.
Are some things randomized when a new match starts?Like tower placements or the capture zone area?
>>581188270>changing positions frequently.That's what you're supposed to do, camper.
>>581204278i'll try recon stuff, good ideano way i'm building another fob
>>581204037since thats becoming every match lately, i might uninstall
>>581194004BROKE NIGGA ALERT
>>581200071The idea of fire superiority does work in Wardogs. It's nice to kill someone with a shot, but generally speaking, if just hose down bullets in the direction of a player, they will be forced to go into cover. Then, according to the principles of fire superiority a teammate can flank them oe yeet a nade into their cover.
>>581204386it's weird, i almost feel like teams played better on day 1 and 2.
>>581203976yes
well im broke. annoying that 4 headshots from m4 with AP doesn't kill a guy.
>>581204279yes
>>581202614Ok then.
>>581204773this also works great for mortar pits
>>581189153>wake up>get to work>spend every waking minute of the day thinking about playing WardogsLast time a gane even remotely grabbed me like this was League. But that was years ago.
>niggas who ride out the full bleed out timerjust alt f4 at that point
>>581205110I do it sometimes when I just wanna read chinese cartoons on my phone
>>581189843All I'm going to complain about is that Rising Storm 2 gave RPGs much more realistic muzzle velocities.
>>581204690yes to both? any other things that are randomized?
>>581191042>What would you change No wipes because seasonal wiping will turn this game into Marathon
>>581205110Yea im not losing my kit just because u fags dont play the hz. Want my help? Be usefulBesides it gives me time to chill with you guys :)
>>581193216It's the best armyslop on the market right now It's better than battlefailed or tarkov
>>581194305I like the 21 too but the galil quickly gives you a 50 round mag
>>581205313>hzis long gone brother. It's time to let go.Also the amount of times i've revived faggots who then proceed to just lay there and do nothing...
>>581196527Anon learned what it's like to be a Soviet pilot after Charlie Wilson armed the Afghans
>>581205626>>is long gone brother. It's time to let go.It was there a second ago I swear!
>>581205313>>581205726>red on bakurani>bitching about anythingnothing you have ever experience playing as red on bakurani can amount to even 4 seconds playing as blue
>>581197169I'm probably gonna drop the game in 'season 2' if I lose everything I leveled up to use.
game feels completely different all of a sudden. people just know where i am at all times and are able to see me instantly from any angle at any place
>>581206474cheats updated and installed
>>581206532really seems like it. the day of the patch was a day and night difference
>buildfags put the lip on the concrete walls outward so an enemy climbs onto it and then over the nearby hesco wall>spot him and call it out in chat>he still gets 6 kills before I can catch up to him because fobfags are literally retarded and only use chat to beg for shitThey didn't put up a fight. 1 fag with an smg cleared the entire base.
>>581203719>in the spawnzone right nowDamn unemployed neet
>>581206746when people hear gunshots in a fob they think it's our guys shooting outwards
>>581206746Nobody looks at their minimap for some reason
>>581205110You WILL come to revive me and DIE trying
>heal a guy>get kicked???
>>581206591I've seen obvious cheaters on the official servers, but most of the community servers have active admins, I haven't seen anyone cheat in those so far.
>>581198918>the boundless autism of bugmen willing to do literally anything to get ahead.wait until they invade Taiwan, TSMC blows up the facilities and you won't be able to ever get a gaming PC again in your life. but actually not, "omg GPUs are $2000 and RAM is $500???" reddit faggot way. put 10x on those numbers.
>>581207397Random kicks due to a bug or ping spike. Known issue.
is it possible to build on top of this sucker?
>people are high enough level to have rocket helicopters now>last 3 times I've driven a spawn car I die before I even get to the zonethis is pretty dogshit
When are they adding a ranked mode
>>581208782hopefully never
>>581207205No I won't, I've got the good sense to carry smoke grenades. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes, get up and go get shot again so I can get paid.
>>581208782once the tarkov sweats start to regularly shit on the devs
What settings should I set to low for epic gayming? Other than obvious shit like motion blur and DoF
>first game with LMG+bipod>have all the bells and whistles with a $20k kit>don't get to fire a single shot all game as I never encounter an enemywell that was lame
>>581204502most of these freaks fire back when being fired at. this might change when more people have m4 and instill the fear of god into them
>>581209015>gun that requires setting up in advance and knowing enemy direction>map is a giant circle where even the hot zone often has literally 2 people in it>barely any chokesno idea how you're supposed to make the LMG any good
So let me get this straight, the moment an enemy team builds the drill somebody on your team has to kill themselves, grab ural and build an arty FOB 550 meters away from the drill to destroy it or you're gonna lose, am I getting that right?
>>581209119only time i ever got more than 5 or 6 kills with it is when i was shooting down into a fishbowl of a fob
if you didn't know, drivers often forget to lock the doors which means you can enter the humvee and shoot them from inside.
>>581209142even noob fobs on drills are usually within the 700 metres of the enemy to mortar them
blue is actually that fucking bad. its actually THAT BAD
>>581208842Are you that faggot who keeps making marathon threads begging people to play?
I am intrigued by the concept of this game. Is being a guerilla infantry dude harassing respawners making their way to the objective circle a playstyle you can do in this?
>>581209516Kinda. But the tools you have suck ass
>>581209387having only 2 teams will fix it
>>581209245>>581209119So it's a "oh I'll buy an LMG cause this is happening" weapon and not something to blindly pick before seeing what's going on in the match
Combat zone should be much much biggerShould be 50 vs 50 vs 50 Hotzone should follow the road network at vehicle speed so it requires the vehicle users and infantry battles happen everywhere throughout the map rather than just funnelling into one single point
>>581209475No, I'm the inspector. Just a medic main, never played nu-marathon and never will.
>>581209142no, you're not getting that right
>>581209652no matter what i pick, when i finally reach the CZ something else is required of me
>>581209616id actually much prefer 2 teams. 3 is just incomprehensible strategically. at least with the current tools available. the flow of the match is too chaotic too. so much of the game doesnt really work right now. and making it work might be incredibly difficult, unless they straight up change stuff
>>581209601Because they'll be in cars and such which a rifle can't threaten well enough? Can I bring an RPG with me?
I don't think
>>581210063Playing without a competent squad is suffering. The impact one genuine retard can have on a 33 person team is astounding.
>>581210104it will never work. 2 of the teams are constantly fighting each other while the 3rd team makes their base in peace and rapes everyone in the later gameeven if they don't they can easily take over the HZsomeone pointed out blue and red fight each other the most because of their positioning and how blue is in the middle of green and red.I checked and it's hilarious that the teams aren't spread out evenly
>>581210165No, because they'll be in helicopters and all anti air tools suck ass and pilots can just ignore it.
>wardogs 2 is announced>this time with a sci-fi setting>same setup with three teams and 100 players>but each player only have 1 life per match>instead of moving out as a human you remote control robot soldiers>fight over an object in the middle of the map that allows your team to break down the shield barrier protecting the other teams HQ>raid enemy HQ and kills all humans to throw that team out of the match
>>581210283Could 3 teams work better with a persistent MMO world pvp map rather than discrete matches with beginnings and ends? Downside of that though is the objective people are fighting for would be much more abstract and disconnected from the players who wouldn't feel as motivated to give a shit and would end up only playing around cash
>>581209015>>581209119If your team is building a super fob with four drills then an LMG is a good choice. Or if the map has an area that is always fought over like the church on ozeti. It's entirely situational but if you manage to use it then you get free kills.
>>581210063been my exact experience so far. if i fly a blackhawk, there's 30 niggers delivering supplies and nobody building. if i try to build, there's 30 niggers building and nobody running supplies. if i push the HZ, the entire team is sitting in the fob (not a single drill built of course). if I bring an LMG to play fob defense, nobody raids the fob. if I build the drills myself, i get mortared. if i hop on a mortar, i get raided. if I take c4 to raid a fob, there's like 2 dudes there. if I take a MAAWs to go play partisan, there's nobody running logi. when the shit clicks it's great but holy fuck i've been going further and further between fun runs every time
Playing early in the morning outside of my timezone's peak hours is a bizarre experience. It's like everyone is lonestar.
>>581210995opposite experience for me on US east. everyone turns into neet virgin nolife faggots in the middle of the night on a weeknight, even blueberries play like they inject ritalin into their little nutsacks
>it's a... get killed by 1 guy and now the 1 guy kills the next 9 people 1-by-1 as the minimap gets littered with revive symbols... episodeone of my least favorite episodes actually
>>581211143The fact that sort of thing is possible makes the game worth playing
>>581206746buildfags also make fobs in the most retarded cramped spaces to make sure you will never get easy dropoffs or clear mortars or CWIS
whee
>>581204279Tower placements are static, but the control zone is random between matches, so a tower might be in the zone one game, but in the next game on the same match it might not be.
>>581211345their code for tracked vehicles is mega fucked
not a bad kit for going in with only the pistol and nothing else
>>581211457their code for all vehicles, helos included, is completely fucked
>>581206746Lip outward on the concrete walls is almost always better because you can place hescos on the flat backside, and then another concrete wall lip out on top of the hescos. Its pretty much the strongest wall design I could find or think of.
>>581211349thanks
>>581203690Good if you can't get effective SAM sites or mortars in CZIf you mean building retarded castles out of hescos it's not good even in CZ
i just played 17 hours straight. god dayum. bedtime.
>>581207657China doesnt need to invade Taiwan anymore. All their shit in the South China Sea is just political peacocking. Theyve been stealing semiconductur tech for years, and eventually theyll catch up to Taiwan.After that its far more likely that the US will invade or attack China because AI speculation fueled by semiductors is literally the only thing keeping the american economy afloat at the moment.
>>581204382Stop thinking fob=pile of hescosThey are all nearly uselessA fob with a drill on one side and a SAM on the other will have more positive impact than a hesco coffin>>581204548>teams played better before everyone gained access to t3 to make their coffins withno shit
>>581203690You get less XP and cash for building outside the zone, but it can be useful sometimes for setting up an AA emplacement to disrupt logistics, or a small mortar pit to attack a megafob tower thats shelling your own team.
>>581211345>level 90+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5HDQWrmVq0
>get downed>few seconds later someone kills the guy who got me>get revived>all my shit is missing and I have to look through backpacks to find it all againholy shit I hate tarkov niggers
they either have to remove infinite revive or remove kill cam directionthis shit is too annoying
>>581212590kek i see niggas run to the frontline with literally nothing, not even a gun, looking to loot it all
>>581212590>try to build>minute 1 of the game>guy rushes in and kills me before getting killed by team>in the microseconds he had he steals my hammer and throws it into space
>>581212902what a fucking demon
>>581198279>>killed him with nothing but a free backpack stuffed with grenadesAh, the good ol mammon rush, a true classic
That anon who mentioned just buying the starter glock and one or two 33-rnd mags and bumrushing people to take their kits was right. Just grab myself a dune buggy, drive to blue, and bam. This shit is more fun and I barely lose money. Nobody expects some greentard to pull into their FOB and just click on them 15 times. Even managed to grab some blueberry's mosin and click heads on a squad of reds also flanking them. Insane salt machine.
>>581213789Persian jihadis don't even have the decency to suicide bomb you anymore, they just magdump you with a full autoglock and run off with all your shit
>>581213789>>581212730>>581212590>>581198279Welcome back mordhau scavenger builds
I have two main issues with the game at this stage.1. Money. Most players are less concerned with winning than they are with turning a profit. This leads to cheaper suboptimal loadouts, combat averse playstyles, and minimized risk taking.2. The game mode. There is no way for an individual player to directly contribute to the team's win condition.In Halo Slayer or CoD TDM, every kill you achieve advances your team.In Counter-Strike, every kill, bomb defused, or bomb detonated directly advances your team.In Battlefield, every Conquest flag captured directly reduces the enemy's ticket count.But on Wardogs, there is no direct contribution that allows individuals to carry of they play hard enough, despite their team's failings. It doesn't matter how long you're in the HZ or how many people you kill, if your teammates don't exceed the enemy's number of people in the CZ, none of it matters.
>>581214095if the devs add a proper allahjacket to this game i'll clap. or just let us stick IEDs to teammates.
>>581214310I think not being able to carry is part of the appeal. I agree the risk aversion is lame though
>>581214137Level 4 armor or not, you're gonna die to some bullshit. Might as well account for it and adjust your investment
Played for 60 hours. Don't feel a desire to unlock any weapons bags or rigs i can just loot them. Half of the ground vehicles are useless. unlocked the dune buggy as a joke and my friend was in the back with a recoilless rifle, we decided to hunt logi trucks or transports, there are none everyone just flies. I'm bored.
>>581214310the way I most contribute to the game is by just waiting till points are like 25, buying a backpack full of c4 and an atv and just going to the enemy flanks hunting to blow up a spawn vehicle on repeat.it pays for itself and its infinitely annoying to never have a spawn vehicle
how long will loadouts takeit isn't that hard to implement ffs
>>581214975>hunt logisThey're inside their territory, anon. You have to grief the enemy base roads to hunt them.
>>581214975>Don't feel a desire to unlockwhat do you do with all that money thenI've been taking out 20k loadouts even if I die and lose it allI still make a profit in the end
>>581215143all the devs are british(retarded)please understand
Is this the first good British game since Worms and Rareware platformers
>>581215073Yes but you don't win games by earning money or by being annoying. You win because more of youe team actually survived in the CZ than theirs. Can't control that.
>>581215629I can't make my team not die, but I can delay their team getting back to the CZ.
>>581215629winning games does nothing tho, it's all about earning money
>Camping red spawn with AA>Force a guy to hike all the way up the mountain because i keep shooting him down
>join match>going awfully but whatever>grab a fob, hammer, truck, supplies>mentally on autopilot, just want money>PWSHHH >BOOM>oh god>notice two guys dismount a dune buggy>they send another RPG>they didn't get the memo that the engine block is made of plutonium>hop out and shoot the bodyguard with my GLAWK about sixteen times>ACK>guy with the RPG is still reloading>plap him with the GLAWK's last 17 rounds>ACK>hear intense seethe from proximity chatthat's right nigga. real truckGAWDs carry a piece and no armor
>>581215202we were, we killed maybe 3 >>581215295nothing, i only have 900k my average kit is 10-12k last thing i wanted to unlock was the mg humvee, i don't want to keep grinding ural runs to unlock the tank
>>581215910this but the moment i see them come i get into my humvee and skedaddle
>wearing t3 armour>die to a headshot from a mosin>headshot enemy>they shrug it off like it's nothingmake it make sense
>>581203976I did that once. Was prone camping with a SKS in a bush behind some shipment container, under a tower on Bakurani, sniped maybe 5 or 6 fobniggers that were retarded enough to stay in front of the window. Shortly after I got swarmed by blues, half of their team ran right past me as I was staring at that 30 seconds redeploy timeout, and not one of them had enough brainpower to search bushes or just pull out a spotter scope.
>>581217076wait till you find out about the bow
buying helis should take very high pilot levelthey should fight like dogs in spawn over who gets to pilot the free spawn helis
>want to grind big shit>remember I'll have to do it all again in a monthHmm
the most fun playstyles reward the least amount of xp and i feel that is the main core issue with the game at the moment. the increased xp curve was maybe a bit much and it would be better to delay high tier equipment by simply putting it further down the tree rather than make the 10-35 range a total slog
>>581218240Now you're thinking like an engagement bait developer
>>581215910I tried doing this as a partisan with the disposable rocket launchers instead but it's way easier to just take a chopper and a few crates of ammo into some random hill and build a SAM
>>581218558right now I feel like i'm gated by not having armour piercing ammo. it's at the point now where everyone is running high tier armour and FMJ ammo just isn't cutting it
>>5812143101. Is a double edged sword and time will tell which way it cuts. Yeah money is ultimately the main goal, but the best ways to make money rely on good teamwork and playing towards a win. Building a big base, defending it against raiders or raiding others to neuter or capture their base makes some of the most money in the game. And I wouldn't call it "combat averse", at least not in the long term. Sure, you might be able to turtle up with mortars and drills for a while, but any decent enemy team can easily counter that. 1 guy with a truckload of ammo can set up a mortar pit and start shelling you, and infantry can raid doors or throw grenades over the walls, quickly overwhelming the base.2. Hard disagree. One person can make a difference, like I said above with a mortar pit, or like anon said with harrassing spawn vehicles or logistics. If you can keep the enemy dead or away from the CZ, then all your teammates have to do is stay inside the zone and alive. If they can't even do that then the team is doomed no matter what you do.
Are you guys going to start over once the wipe happens or are you going to drop the game?
>roundstart>load up into a blackhawk>he takes off at full load>starts music>about halfway to the zone somebody accesses the vehicle inventory and ejects the tape along with all his flares>"Alright well since somebody just threw out all of my flares, we're going back.">pilot actually turns the helicopter around and takes a full load right back to spawn>locks the vehicle and buys a pallet when he lands to kick everyone out>fuckload of pissed dudes that now have to drive or wait for the helis to come back>I'm still in because I was in the other cockpit seat>he goes back out with a pallet, me, and no flares>"You aren't buying any more flares?">"Already had 3k in flares thrown out, not buying any more as long as I have a passenger.">get locked onto right outside the circle>heli gets taken out by a team of dudes with MANPADS that dropped behind lines>pilot never made it with anything into the zone>I'm the one that dumped his shit out :-)
>>581220203Depends on how much stuff they add, and how good Ace Combat 8 is. Originally they said early access was just for testing the metagame, but now theyre saying theres new content for season 2, so who knows.
>>581219027try to get everything to level 10. those levels are a lot easier and that will shoot you to wardog level 60 which makes it a bit easier to start pushing for the AP ammo. it also gives you the t3 armor yourself
>>581220239What was the purpose of performing this sequence of events?
>>581220203I can stomach 1 wipe, since this is urly access. But I play other games as well. So if my progress is routinely wiped then I'll just stop playing.
>>581220743TO MAKE THAT CHAIRFORCE BABY CRY SIR
fellow scopers, share your best sniping spotsBakurani>small industrial building in front of the cargo zone and the tall buildings north of mapOzeti>the pool near the stadium, and the stadiumZestafona>top of the steelmill
FUCK ANTI AIR NIGGERS FUCK ANIT AIR NIGGERF UCK ANTI AIR NIGGERS
fuck helicoptersfuck em in the ass
Kill little birds. Behead little birds. Roundhouse kick little birds into the concrete. Slam dunk a little bird baby into the trashcan.
>>581221593>fuck the one thing that can interact with me
Close doors.
T3 armor fucking sucks ass. It weighs a fuck ton and playing on heavy weight is gay.
>>581221495>the pool near the stadium, and the stadiumIf I'm at spawn to grab the APC, I usually end up putting it under the building there, it's safe and has decent view of everything else on the map if you decide to build a FOB and the related emplacements
>>581220631i'm currently working on pilot right now but I blow ass at this, i've not had a single life make a profit as a pilot
>>581215910>>581220239Swear this game exists to create stories like this
>>581221075izzat gained well done saar
>>581221936I don't wanna fly it either, bwo... Fucking nigger fobbits won't even pick up shit out of the crates, I'm just trying to level up...
>>581191042Average match length is far too short. I don't see why the victory point limit was set to only 100 given that people can drop in/out at any point, so there should be no real harm in letting a single match run for hours.
>>581222442I do my best but sometimes I'm the only nigger at the fob and you retards drop 10 pallets and crates all over the place. Protip: if you're dropping crates try to drop it right in front of the fob otherwise nobody is going to haul that shit.
oh boy here i go playing againsure hope i actually make some fucking profit today
>>581222567Also it helps to put a couple of large hammers into a crate. There are still alot of people who don't have it unlocked.
>>581191042no wipes would be a good start, allowing more battle harded veterans on the field instead of leveling the ground every monthkeep me in the same team after a match restartsbetter handling of joining matches with friends and squads since its a pain in the ass so far
>>581222745meant for >>581222584
>>581214310>This leads to cheaper suboptimal loadouts,Yeah once I lose my 18k starter kit I just bumrush with a freeloadout until the match is over. Not really squeezing every penny yknow? Got 2 million in my virtual bank tho :)
Stop building FOBs half way and abandon it FFS
>>581223267>try to build>get raped while my entire team is fighting ghosts in the middle of nowhere not even contesting hz>give up and just buy a recon kit againnot my problem
>>581222442you don't get pilot xp for people buying stuff from crates. you only need to drop the crates off the cz. just find a nice open area and fill it with garbage crates no one wants. you're trading money for xp but at least it's consistent. you need a backpack with free space to unload supplies from the crates and fobbits tend to get the cheap small backpacks so they avoid crates
>>581214310>There is no way for an individual player to directly contribute to the team's win condition.I don't think this is true. I just witnessed 1 Rambo prevent my entire team from reaching the HZ, and by doing so he secured the win. He 1v10'd us by killing me first and camping the ever-increasing pile of bodies screaming in pain. Many medics died that day.
there is something missing from making me re-que all day, i play one full match and I've got enoughusually i just assault+medic in hotzone, am i missing some fun playstyle? i play both solo and in big squads
>>581195785Not that that's a bad thing. I genuinely don't see a reason to tryhard for first place other than taunting the other teams in all chat. In a way this game is extremely relaxing because I can play however I want, at my own pace, and have fun doing it while making profit.
>>581222175CLOSE THE DOOOOOOOOOR
>>581221936>>581222035>t.seething infantry
>>581223963DOOR STUCK
>enemies run up to my lifeless body only to see a pouch containing>one (1) glock>two 33-round magazines (one empty)>one bent tin can>one apple core>one banana peel>and a fish skeleton
I think parachutes should be way, way more expensive.
>>581199484>Time in the marketMan shit is dropping tho. Probably going to keep dropping now that semi decent people like me are starting to afford gold bars
>build a kickass fob in a great location>tell team to get here and we can start pulling with drills>no one comes>not even to use the mortars with full ammo>enemy team shows up and rapes me>captures fob>uses it to terrorize my team>only now is my team interested in it and mans it after we take it backI'm going to just start building fobs for the enemy
>>581224105puffy cunny bulge
>>581223783the enjoyment is largely based around how competent your team and the enemy team.Sadly competency leads to the annoying stuff like attack helis and artillery tanks so ironically it becomes less enjoyable over time
I saw an enemy humvee driving around throwing grenades and c4 out the windows and then when I tried it all the c4 stuck to the inside of the humvee. Is there a trick to it?
Just had this thought but why haven't I seen any FOBs built solely to make hesco swastikas? Shit would be so easy.
>>581224759They don't appear on the map so only pilots would see them
>>581224856It's about the spirit of the thing
>>581221593>>581221936Neither of you cunts have had to deal with HINDniggers and it shows.>Shoot little bird with recoilless>Pile of ash>Shoot blackhawk with recoilless>Rotor conks out and crashes>Shoot attack heli with recoilless>Keeps shooting and flies away after a while
>>581223783lol hotzone gameplay is aids that’s why even if you do good that’s why
>>581225021you gotta use the BRRRRRR gun
>>581225184The CWizz is really good against them, but that doesn't work if the attack heli shows up in the first minutes as we're still building walls.
>>581224314tfw didnt buy gold for 250k on the 20th of August, 3 weeks before the game launchedI'm ngmi bros...
>sitting in a bush all game watching people through my binocsI feel so dirty.
>>581225000>the spirit of the thingThat will rise from the grave and will be right?
>>581223783>Guys I’m not having fun>I just assault/play hotzone
Does being new with 0 progression levels late in a cycle with servers full of unlocked accounts fuck you up in this game or is it a non-issue?
>>581225384Combat vehicles should be locked until one team reaches 30 points its egregious how a Havoc can just show up at the start of the game and make it so only his team can actually build a FOB
>>581225881Game is about to wipe so you're good
>>581225881Yes you have to play like a malnourished mouse in a sewer full of fat cannibal rats
>>581225881Just go and sit in a bush with binoculars, you'll level up in no time.
>>581225834kek, yeah
>>581224257It should be given to you when you board a black cawk and it should auto-deploy the moment you jump out of the heli. So you either have the tension of a long drop or get a capable pilot who knows the LALO jump altitude. No sport version of the chute. And little birds should have no chutes, either having to land or add a new roping mechanic, which again requires skilled pilots to hold the heli stable at the right altitude for a rope descent.Parachuting is fun, but it's all done too unplanned currently, and the only skill needed is to jump in a safe zone.
>bro don't worry about the unlocks just have fun>the fun is gatekept by a long, expensive grind>wipe is happening in a few weeks and i hardly get much time to playi like this game but i'm struggling to see the point in committing heavily at the moment
>>581228134It's the number 1 complaint at the moment so I'm hoping season 2 is tuned to where I can actually play with the fun shit without having to take up the game like a full time job
>>581228134how do you want new players with their needle guns killing decked out max gears
>>581228405its a beta they should just say fuck it and make everyone max level with a billion dollars for one season
>>581225974Your dick is bleeding because all the attack helis gave you manperiod?Use manpadsAny pilot that did logi should be able to drop you a crate with some. Any pilot that goes to harrass you will fuck off from your fob once they hear the MAWS go off in the first five minutes of a match
>>581225881See >>581199301
it's amazing how 2 reds can defeat 16 blues, destroy their base and spawn vehicle
why are vehicles so unfunlittlebird: get raped by cwis/sam/small arms constantlyhumvee: get raped by small arms and apparently the 2 tons of explosives everyone carries on themliterally what is the point
>>581228860>should be able to drop you a crate with someshouldbut don't
>>581229025So armor has no effect on ttk in thr "worst case" when unarmored only gets hit in the extremities? But what if you're hitting them in the upper chest?
>>581229401>humvee: get raped by small armsI could have sworn humvee were bulletproof.Its actually gay you can't even crack the window
>>581229654it isthe tires are not
>>581229654yeah and you shoot the tire once and its speed goes from 120 kph to 20, you spend 10 eternities getting to level 10 driving and it's useless unless you want to suicide bomb fob gates because your team can't mortar them
>>581228702>how do you want new players with their needle guns killing decked out max gearsNone of the armor protects legs, you can kill anyone in the exact same amount of time just aiming thereIn fact it's easier to do on more armored targets since they're louder and slower
>>581230098Can't you just park behind cover and repair the wheels back to full? In any case I should find one of those infantry only servers, cause all these vehicles and artillery sure aint a lot of fun
>spawn in>load up with fob and take first heli out>land, put up ONE <one> 1 singular sniper tower>immediately raped by 3 armored minigun humveesyeah anything past week 1 of wipe is going to be unplayable
>>581231038Wait so the smart thing to do is build a leg shooting habit?
To balance mortars I propose a poop system. Player characters will now require food to maintain energy. Using a mortar requires lots of energy (brain power) and thus would also require food ration pallets as part of logi. Players who sit on mortars too long will have to poop but they can't do that within the FOB unless you want poop all over and for your team to suffer from sickness DoT. Thanks for listening
>>581231569go back to the gacha generals, rajesh
>>581231569most intellectual post I've seen in this general so far. devs, hire this saar.
do you get any money at all from placing a fob?
>stay in fob building or doing logi>profit>actually try playing the shooting game>lossI don't think they have thought this through
>>581232651that sounds like a you being shit at aiming issue
i love tower defense nigga i love taking turns drilling nigga i love hesco harry's heavy hammer hauling halls that grow tall nigga
nigga im a fobbit nigga i put down barbed wire
>>581196284Everyone has been conditioned to ignore crates because pilots like to dump 30 crates full of logistics supplies in one spot
>antitankuseless>antiairuselessyou end up lugging 40 tonnes of shit just to get sniped by a mosin or get countered by flares or to never encounter a fucking humvee in 40 minutesholding W with an AK is 300 times more profitable
>>581233201>>antiair>uselessretard
>>581231569There was a server on arma reforger that requires food and water and it was actually coolwhen I did partisan shit on that server and ran out of food I had to get on the radio and request someone to bring us a resupply of food and ammo and they met us in the middle of the forest with a truckload of supplies behind enemy lines. it was kinothey removed the mod because everyone else hated having to right click a ration once an hour saying it was tedious
>>581233272unless you go on a pickup with 6 vebras into the backline it's useless and even then you get paid half of what you're supposed to cause you're outside zonei'm not lugging 18 fucking kilos just to fire 1 missile and i'm not bringing in 9 adreno stims just to be able to move while carrying 2 or levelling 150 to carry 3nigger.
I love the reload getting canceled by tapping sprint and then I try to shoot and it clicks empty, guy racks the gun and then loads another mag, racks it again, then I can fire mid-fucking fight. It feels buggy as shit.
>>581231038is that intended or are you just using their shortcomings to tackle counter their progression system?
>>581232767Is this what you say to yourself when FOBGODS and helichuds top the leaderboard every game?
I stopped playing for a few days, and now I lost all desire to play knowing that I feel behind. And that there is a wipe right around the corner. What is the point of trying to catch up when I will just do it all again soon?
nigga i put music players all over the fob nigga i'm setting it to classical music nigga we rockin this shit nigga
>humvee only starts smoking after 3 RPGs>bullet proof glass>can somehow still throw grenades and C4 out of it while enjoying the benefits of being invulnurableWhat the absolute fuck is this game man?I wasn't expecting the RPG to oneshot of course but why the fuck can it tank 3 and stilll drive?that's ridiculous!
>>581229459It's in the chartUpper torso goes from 4 to 9 shots, from 0.2s to 0.53s. More than double, but still basically nothingThe game doesn't have some complex realistic armor system, where higher end armor becomes exponentially more effective against things that don't pen to the point you become basically immune to lower calibers.It's just a simple % damage reduction that doesn't even cover whole body. But the TTK is very low unless you account for accuracy. In 99% of engagements whoever shots first or misses less will win.Especially close up. Every caliber deals exact same base damage. Guns only change the dropoff curve, recoil and fire mode/rate. Bushmaster under 300m deals exact same damage per bullet as m4
>>581233696>moving the goalpost immediately to include attack helisi accept your confectionnow hold this c4 i threw over the walls, mortar chud
I'm unironically having a blast. Haven't had this much fun since bf2. Also people don't seem to troon out about saying fag over mic.
>>581231185Pop all 4 tires and it's crawling. Buckshot shotty rapes humvees
>>581234143I'm sure some cuck will sue Bulkhead about chat eventually
>>581234032>helitroon immediately pops flares when he's found out
>>581234357Brammer is reportedly a massive chud so expect more hit pieces on them
finally! after 110,000 xp I have unlocked the LMG! now only 70k more xp to get the bipod and make it usable!
>>581234497Oh I fully expect Jason Schrier to go crying in front of the ADL on camera very very soon
This game will rapidly die like ARC Raiders did. I bought both and I'm getting the exact same vibe after 20 hours. Game seems fun for about that amount of time then you see all the problems and things that should have been added and may never be added and then you won't want to play any more. Logistics is horrifically boring and brainless just driving to and from a waypoint. Base building / using mortars gets old fast. The bases don't really let you be creative you just build hasco walls in a square and then plop down a few mortars and maybe some AA or whatever.I think my time would be much better spent playing Reforger.
>>581232651>Actually try playing the shooting game>lossYou only lose money if you die anon skill issue learn what fights to take and unless you are rambo you will die against a 3v1 situation
>>581234497He just needs to shut his fucking mouth but he wont
>>581233368complaining about tedium in arma is like saying your soup is too wet lol
https://x.com/WARDOGS/status/2100177884572967374why are bob the builder players so fucking useless
>>581234497>Hello players. It's me, a dev. Nigger.
>>581233126Sometimes it feels like im the only person in the game who has ever put meds/ammo in a crate. 99% of them are build mats from poorfag pilots who cant deliver pallets yet
I feel like they should increase the threshold of points needed for the APC to spawn. Once the APC is in play there's pretty much no activity in terms of using air/land vehicles to deploy players
>>581236098King Terry lives.
>>581236225Nah. They should add a threshold of points for vehicles with weapons though. Infantry-only warfare at start then slowly escalate etc etc
>>581235484>known radar hack user and irl cokeheadamazed he's still alive
>>581235484>no defenses on the roof>no AA>exposed mortarsthey were just retards
>>581231302Eh. You gain cosistency, you lose damage mult.Legs are 0.54xUpper torso is 1.1x, that's 0.66x with t2 armor (40%DR)So legs are better from L3Except you can't hit head going legs>>581233681What do you mean "intended"? Different armor tiers cover different parts. For example helmets 1 and 2 don't cover the neck, 3 and 4 doSo yea I'd say it's intended L4 body covers 2 extra zones compared to all others, but they didn't add legs to any armorAlso wtf that site accounts for bullet flight time
>>581234000The difference is comparable to counterstrike/valorant where it absolutely matters but you don't feel helpless on eco rounds against full buys
So I heard that wardogs ceo stance on crunch was just mostly fake. I guess we just like to eat up clout slop like any other normie.
>>581234000>More than double, but still basically nothingthis is an issue in general with low TTK games, positioning/info matters more than the actual gunfigtsat least here it's offset by always being rezzable
>>581237724you dont hate games "journalists" enough
>>581238030>journalistsThat term is anti semitic.
i like this scopethink i will try it on the ak next
the hotzone passive money gain should also include xp for whatever class of gun you equipped or type of vehicle you're in
>>581238519i meant this one
>>581238519>>581238973how do you get your game to look like that, it looks way better for visibility of enemy players
>>581234032Uh huh hope you enjoy being ground up by my havocs 30mm
>Win as red all the retards flood red next round >red loses because of retards green wins >win as green all the retards flood green >green loses because of retards>pull a win as blue of all teams>EVERY RETARD ON THE SERVER FLOODS BLUE>Blue doesnt even score a point
I feel like support heli play is kind ass as the game progresses further. >No one picks up and deposits the small boxes because the system is ass >dropping meds, grenades, and ammo on hz fights is fun and helpful but often is negative profit wise because people rarely buy everything in a box and leave the rest to rot>APC spawns early and all the shit pilots crashing with full squads over the last few days makes people not want to taxi unless 100% needed>pallet heli feels like complete shit to fly >more and more people loading up trucks with stingers heavily increasing the cost spent on flares It feels like if your not playing offensively with a rocket helicopter or something its not worth it.
>>581231569Hire the dwarf fortress and rimworld devs to expand logistics in general. Make players suffer from mental illness if they only fight, drive, and build and don't get in leisure time for their mental health bar
>new round, join blue>the moment we set our first fob, red is already launching mortars to us>they keep up the assault until green takes the lead>now it's green sending helis to harass our fob while red backs down>eventually red recovers the lead and they're back to launching mortars and sending choppers to our fob>both teams keep taking turns focusing on us>eventually both teams just have several choppers harassing our fob>all of this while we have literally 0 pointsMaybe the real retards are red and green. This fucking shit took forever to end because both teams refused to engage each other
>>581240363I'd be interested to see servers that remove the spawn apc. Might improve things somewhat
>>581240363>people rarely buy everything in a box and leave the rest to rotThis is the one system I don't understand. Fights don't last long enough to become a battle of attrition where those resources become useful and in the middle of the fire you're always better off looting whatever you can get from nearby bodies than going to one of those boxes to buy stuff.
>>581239051low settings and all effects off
>start round>play combat medic with AR and try to keep the group of helis that drop next to the hotzone alive for as long as possible, usually into the 20-30's in score>respawn with nothing but a large hammer at the apc, spend next 30-40 points there using mortars, CRAM, reviving>end game either sniping or combat medic againI think I found a routine that balances not being a faggot that spends the whole round in the fob, while also making good cash, made +100k in a row 3 times like this
HELOGAWDZ WHERE WE AT
fuckign distant gunshots sound EXACTLY like footsteps and it makes me schizo as fuck
>rubs handsCouldn't they pick some other animation. lol
>>581242616yea tbdesu even a fist pounding on the chest in an attempt to kickstart the heart would be better than some fucking rei ki treatment
>>581242616Cool it with the anti semitic remarks.
how do I get enough support XP to become a helicopter cuckmachine. I wish to make skydogs life hell.
all i did was people watch-outside of green's fob and i gapped the server by 100ki'm not saying they should nerf the boring shitbut god damn should you not have to fight tooth-and-fucking-nail to break even as infantry when jerking off in a crane for an hour pays out like this7 of those kills were at the start, i rolled up in a dune buggy with 4 rockets and RPG'd 4 helis before assuming my postkill 8 is responsible for death 1, saw a helmetless sniper rezzing in a window and i simply couldn't resist my glock's siren call
>>581242616>>581242820the hand rubbing is the funniest part shit take
>>581243060unpack pallets and build shit
>>581243476>people watch-outsidehow did i fuck that uppeople-watch outside>>581243060if you get big hammer and a ural, making solo mortar/anti-air fobs seems like a pretty good gigbetter if you have homies and actual logi support
I just want to play wardogs with my fellow chuds tonight but I have to go to some gay faggot work thing
>>581243476I do this and get sniped by somone scanning my sector where no one but has been for 10 mins or my team does fuck all with the info
>>581244651skip work like me today
>>581241659getting close to mastering Lakota. I can land little bird anywhere an the map except towers, i just pull up at the last second and go vertical. i have no idea how people spot enemy in minibird i need a zoom button, rocket bird soon...
>red assraping the entire server from their superfob>we have no fobs our own due to their mortars>deathball siege with apc at their superfob>no one has any explosives because we're all retarded>but wait!>a way to climb in to their base through some barbed wire >do it, hide and bandage myself>blast one guy >he tells everyone I'm in their base>by divine intervention another red opens the door coming from their fob station>blast him and head in to hack>a few more guys are lured by the alarm but I kill them all>manage to finish the hack mid siege and all the doors flip>reverse rape the reds in their own base>use the drills at their super fob to start a comeback>red counter assaults>blue sends a guy as well>constant battle for at least 20 minutes>still end up losingBut it was fun as fuck
>>581245321honestly i don't know how i didn't get spotted at any point up until i revealed myself, i didn't even try that hard to avoid silhouetting. just stayed in the control room of this crane and alternated windows/angles periodically.should've been caught sooner. seems like a place you'd want to sweep if you were sniping but then again, these are fob snipers we're talking about
>>581244350>making solo mortar/anti-air fobshow do I do that. I don't know how to make the big anti air buildings
Chase circle or drill? my team bitch after they lose saying everyone stayed on base but everyone is saying why chase when we can drill
>>581191042>need a twitter to give feedbackidk if thats a step up from devs listening via reddit or not
>>581246914Entirely depends on how good the supply chain and builders on your team are. If you have good supply chain and good builders, building three drills and running them off CD is genuinely the most broken strategy in the game right now. Otherwise, you have to chase the HZ
why the fuck is there no dedicated keybind to combine mags without opening your inventory? why do I have to stare at my inventory screen to do this?
>>581246614large hammer is how you build all the cool stuff, no reqs other than needing building suppliesbuy a big hammer, a fob, a ural, 2 pallets of ammo, and then fill your and its remaining inventory with build supplies and additional ammo. emphasis on the ammofor solo mortar, find an in-circle spot in bumfuck nowhere within range of whatever you want to shell and then build yourself a little fort. double-stacked large hesco blocks and no doors makes it annoying and relatively expensive to deal with you; a door/gate is 1 c4, a hesco is 4. if you want to spend a little extra time, you can fortify with bremers since they're 9(?) c4. but that's not really necessary nor time efficientfor solo anti-air, you usually want good long sight lines without being particularly exposed to troops on the ground, so high-ground is key. pick a spot that can see shit coming from your victims' spawn(s), build a fort that doesn't block your LoS, and be maximally annoying.the CIWS, the marshmallow with a chaingun, has a long build time, limited range, and chews through ammo pretty quick; so the more practical choice is building SAMsimportant to note, helis hear two tones. we're being locked, and we're locked. there is no missile radar or tone for "oh and now they've actually shot the missile we need to flare soon". in other words, locking and then not shooting can make inexperienced pilots panic and flare early, giving you a window to kill them for free
>>581214310I find it very difficult to coordinate because squads end up being small, which can be fine but no way to communicate outside proximity fucks you when enemies are approaching. HLL proximity is ok cause its team only, I am not sure how to solve it or if its really an issue. Double edged sword to try and talk to nearby non-squad mates I suppose.
>>581248974>limited range, and chews through ammoBut the helo doesn't know he's being watched until it's too late However you're right, range and muzzle velocity deserves a buff on it
>three matches in a row where someone built a way into a fob then switched teams and proceeded to get them and their friends in using itGame is dead in a month if they don't clamp down on shit like this.
>>581249847>switching teams without reason or cause But that's how Judge Shekelheinsteinberg said divorce works, anon.
I really wish you could build more shit outside FoB radius. Like, a few more sandbag configurations, maybe a small bunker. I'm bringing a hammer to the frontline because i think placing sandbags and barbed wire is useful sometimes, but i wish i could do a bit more frontline engineering
>attack heli wrecks havoc on my team>pump 3 7.62 magazines on the heli>it didn't care jsut fuck my shit up for giving my locationI don't get it. am i doing any fucking damage?
>>581249847'spies'/'moles' have been acknowledged as a problem at the very least, sounds like one of the priority issues they're working on solving>>581250448nope, without AP rounds or CIWS fire, vehicles are practically immortal to bulletsthe pilot isn't though. shoot him, he's on the left side when the heli's facing you (RHD)>>581250175trenches when
>>581250794well thats fucking gay. whats the point of regular FMJ rounds then?
>>581249847I had some pole smoking gaylord do that, only he didn't just let them in, he just went around and unbuilt everything expensive too. I'm going to start shooting anyone who leaves airlock doors open.
>shoot at heli previously unaware of your presence>it turns and kills you>durr hurr what am I doing wrongActual darwinism. How about just don't fucking shoot at it and hide like an intelligent person would. They aren't killing you unless they're part of the 3% of pilots that can circle strafe well consistently.
>>581250175not a single game goes by when I do not miss Enlisted and the MG emplacement. Ammo is so fucking scarce in this game and it would be great to be able to build something akin to the MG position or Pak-38.But then again Enlisted does surprisingly many things right, such as machineguns being fucking dangerous
>hurr durr why is retard shooting a heliThey're not tanks retard. actual heli's are made of light composite materials. somehow this game makes them fucking tanks the whole team ran around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming what to do with the heli.
>>581250934generally for shooting people (har har)AP ammo is something like >50% more expensive than FMJ, and strictly worse against anything that isn't class 3/4 (at which you're looking at like a ~25% improvement in damage per bullet or some shit like that)
>spacial audio causes crashesoh boy i fucking love the era of retarded devs vibe coding things that have been solved for decades
I think they need to extend the drill rig cooldown and limit 1 per FOB.This is a really unhealthy meta.Theres literally no reason to go for the objective towers outside of being able to build on it
Did they remove the "round trip" xp for driving or is it bugged? I haven't seen it in days. I'm going to go back to killing myself instead of driving the ural back
>>581252017I think having multiple drills is fine but they should all share a single cooldown.
>>581251713LB's are vulnerable to small arms fire. Attack helis are not. RL havocs have bulletproof windshields and are designed to withstand continuous 12.7 fire. Game follows the same logic. Now if you were talking about an LB, then say LB instead of attack heli. Little difference to the retarded like you I know, but big difference to the non-retarded.
>>581252801Yeah just make the cooldown fob-wide so buildfags actually have to coordinate and move on to a new fob at some point
>>581250175no point when the hotzone moves so fastBy the time youre done setting up a defensive position the fight is elsewhere
>>581252807>RL havocs have bulletproof windshield therefore the whole damn aircraft is bulletproofah yes. everything is bulletproof including the tail rotor because it has bulletproof windshield. fantastic.
>retard got so mad he didn't even read the rest of my sentence>or was just incapable of reading itAh, a classic.
>you can freelook while on the mortar and artillery shell follow camJust delete the whole fucking thing
wish bulkhead would make a dedicated server to contain all those chinese monkeys, really can't stand them. Fucking pest
Wow
>>581254057Theyre not chinese you retard, those are bought account from keysites
>>581253984lol what? you should require a spotter. is that really how it works?>>581255251on par with being shit
>>581255089>+1500 Player Killed>+1500 Player Killed>+$500 Build-able Destroyed>+$500 Build-able Destroyed>+$500 Build-able Destroyed>...
Is the fastest way to get support xp sitting on a mortar?
what do the tower captures even do?
>>581255810Yeah
>>581256132Each tower gives part of a code when you cap it. When you have the whole thing, or enough to guess the rest, you can pull the hotzone to your tower like how the buildable drills work, but without the fuel cost.
Vehicles need their prices hacked way up or soldier items need their prices slashed way down. No fucking way should little birds and attack helos be 7-18k while a fully kitted soldier and gun costs north of 10k.
>>581256413Oh, neat.
>there are now people with AT mines unlockedIt's over for the truckerdads. This has always been an airfag game but now it will be made clear to all who still had doubts.
>join game>another massive green stomp>green team has attack helis and arty>blue team has massive holes in the walls of their fobs>red team somehow only has SIX people in the czthis shit is making the game so boring its not fun for either side
>>581256478heck my big boy medic kit costs 20k now
>>581256984If I die on my first kit at the start of the match and see the enemy team leading by 30 points, I AFK as long as possible on the revive timer and hope the game ends before I have to respawn.I don't even want to take a spotter scope after that.Why don't I just quit the match? I dunno
There needs to be an easier answer to air earlier.
>>581257989It's called rpgs and having good aim. Also igla's.
>>581258082IGLAs are awkward to get given they're in support. URALs are blocked off too, so you can't just logi you're way to it. I don't think? building by itself gives you enough but maybe i've just been unlucky.
>in a 20 man swarm chasing hotzone>rocket LB attempt to strafe>everyone collectively empty their guns at it>LB explodes before he can make a turnI love the small coordinated moments like these.>>581256478I saw someone say that one reason that infantry kits are more expensive than vehicles is because you're supposed to wear down your armor. If you die and give up with 80% of your armor remaining you're doing it wrong as you're supposed to get revived and keep going until armor breaks and something something teamwork and sticking together. But it's obvious that with randoms who play this like battlefield or cod this idea don't work and as such, infantry kits should maybe be made cheaper. I bet their reasoning is that you COULD make back quadruple+++ the amount you spent on your kit in the HZ but yeah... It's weird how an RPG rocket is more expensive than an artillery shell to mention an example of the ridiculous price comparison between infantry stuff and vehicle stuff.
>>581259221Nigga you'll unlock urals by driving 2-3 people in a kodiak to the cz like twice in the same game.Just sit in hq and voip to people that you want to level your driver to unlock urals and people will probably do it.
>>581256984They should make all 3 teams wear different shades of green/tan/brown clothing. You'd still keep the red, blue and green team colors.
Watching Doctor play this game exposes everything lol.
>people with high levels that can do mobile arties, Atk helicopters, armored vehiclesoh i guess i'll just be a build-a-fob/recon bitch
>>581191042Reading the responses to this solidifies the belief that gamers are cattle who deserve literally nothing except last of us remaster remakes and yearly CODslop.>Mortars are too strong>Drills are too strongHow the fuck can these both be widely held beliefs. Mortars hard counter drills, 3 shells from a mortar turns a drill into a cloud of dust. If you have a well supplied and accurate mortar team, the second a drill gets activated by another team it should recieve an immediate volley of mortar fire.>Minigun helis are too strong>AA is too strongAgain, how the fuck can these two be happening simultaneously.>XP grind/wipeThe game has been out for less than a week and people already have lvl 4 armor, SPGs and attack helicopters. Thats literally the endgame, theres nothing else to do beside that. If nolifers can reach it in a week, normal people will definitely reach it by the end of 4 weeks, and there will be a lot of data to analyse on how the playerbase handles uneven metaprogression. In the betas, people had tanks before others even unlocked the RPG, so clearly thats wrong. But by the time people will unlock tanks now, some people will have the recoilless, and most will have the RP, as an example.
>>581255351these things only costing 10k to flatten an entire base is a war crimeif you're trying to maintain the fob and an enemy buys one of these you might as well go afk in spawn because you won't be able to do anything for the next 25 minutes
>>581256695wait til you find out that the AT mines are just as cucked and powerless as the IED.Insurgency and Squad have IEDs that fucking blow up a city block, in Pacificst Dogs they don't even destroy the Ural completely, just the tires
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>>581259480>position my car so it's easy to get into and honk like hell>people just don't enter, everyone wants a chopper or an APC spawn
>>581225974Or you can help populate infantry only servers and you won't have any attack LB or Havocs. No humvees or tanks either.
>>581262891I still get people jumping into my buggy even with heli nearby. Not sure why.
>>581263278I'd prefer the game to reach a balance of grind and escalation that takes advantage of the combined arms gameplay, not remove it entirely with coping cuck servers.
>>581263579I agree on that. Maybe even make mortars locked until 20 points or something to emulate escalating warfare where teams bring in heavier and heavier equipment for the conflict.
>>581262043>If nolifers can reach it in a week, normal people will definitely reach it by the end of 4 weeksThe problem is they only get to use the tank for about 5 minutes before getting wiped and now they need to grind another 100 hours before spending 5 minutes in tank again.
>>581259221IGLAs are also a level 10 or 12 unlock, you need to already be invested in support to have them at all
Holy shit rocket heli is so broken kekI just got it and have scored 100+ kills a game now.>"S-shit enemy AA'er then!"Nope, just flying low between buildings to avoid the AA.This is getting nerfed.
>>581262706Wait are you telling me AT mines don't annihilate a Ural? IRL these things will consistently one-shot an MBT if it's directly under
>>581256984This is why I play blue and then on second spawn start artillerymaxxing against whichever team thinks they're hot shit
>>581255089Had a red fob look like that in one match, then after 200 mortar rounds fired at them, it looked like this instead
>>581264595at least in the firing range it's very lackluster shit
>>581262043>>The game has been out for less than a week and people already have lvl 4 armor, SPGs and attack helicopters. Thats literally the endgame, theres nothing else to do beside that.They should just ditch their money system between matches and cop the one from Homefront honestly. That game had the perfect progress and escalation in a match.
I think my biggest problem with this game is that the combination of risk aversion, poverty and gating unlocks to actually good counters makes it hard to actually counter many things that are insanely strong. And those insanely strong things are also simultaneously low risk. And even if you do finally counter the thing, the person doing it already made a tidy profit so all you're doing is giving them a free trip back to spawn so they can be fully resupplied and just do it again, and again, and again and again.Meanwhile if you want to play infantry, even if you're trying to play like a rat and be as careful as possible while never leaving your team's side, it's still a massive uphill battle to even stay net positive on cash flow. And that just makes the game snowball harder because you end up with your entire team sitting in an fob getting ass raped.
how do i cashmaxx? gonna be playing with buddies and I know my stash will get raped
How do normally play infantry and not go broke? I am a shitter and just prefer to do whatever role is most needed. That role is normally infantry. I join a game and see many people standing in what I call "coffin fobs" which are just hell holes feeding enemy mortar shooters money. So in situations like that, I don't know how to play infantry effectively. Do I just stand around also and wait for someone to form up? I know I am not built for fob shittery or recon shittery though. Those barely feel like jobs.
No spacing at all, love it.
>>581264358It takes about 60-70 hours of continuous gameplay in one role to get to lvl 35 according to my very rough napkin math. Lets be charitable and round it up to 100 hours. 100 hours to reach the endgame content seems pretty doable in a single month, especially since only the first wipe is one month to locate obvious pain points in the progression. Also to remember is that WarDogs is targeting the same demographic as Tarkov, i.e poopsockers who think 100 hours in a month is absolutely nothing.
>>581265685>>581265538just recon fuckin' EVERYTHING.
>>581265218Something is fucky with the firing range. It took me 3 RPGs to destroy a Ural in the range but in the real game I destroyed them in 1-2 RPGs
>>581265685>How do normally play infantry and not go broke?you don'tgo play minecraft in the fob or get on a mortar or do logistics. infantry in this game gets punished extremely hard just for existing
>>581265685just server hop until you find a server with a decent blob of teammates going for the hz. And then hope the other teams do it too or you will have a boring match with no action :^)
>>581265357People always bring up "sweats" in games like this. But the reality is that people with "lives" are already winning in ways that sweats probably never will. People saying shit like "I AM A DAD WITH A WIFE AND KID!!! HOW CAN I COMPETE AGAINST NO LIFERS!?" bro you already fucking won in a different way. I am a 36 year old autistic incel who has never had a girlfriend and the only thing keeping me alive is playing video games and going to the gym. Let me have just ONE FUCKING THING(video games). It really feels like the people with lives want everything.
>>581265685The monetary system in this game is extremely rewarding for those running support roles like logi and building because the devs expected the vast majority of players to want to shoot people instead of fucking around in base. In theory this is a good idea, but the problem is that support roles are so vastly more profitable that most people are just doing the boring shit instead of actually shooting in the shooting game because they want to level up
>>581266403When I say I dont have time to grind to level 35 its not because I have a life, but because still want to have time to play other games. I was a tankfag in planetside but if I want to drive a tank I have to dedicate 100% of my time grinding pallet deliveries in Wardog truck simulator.
>>581266593Yeah as infantry, you can do what feels like a lot of work and make like no money. I don't mind doing it though. Its definitely not lucrative but I have fun. I also typically play solo too. I think dying in hotzone to enemy fire should give a slight discount on assault products perhaps in your next life. Not sure if that could be abused though.
>>581265701This is the "mortar spam" that normalfags complain about btw. A grouping so close that a 3 round burst from a counter mortar, or a single SPG shell would turn them into a fine pink mist.
>>581262043>How the fuck can these both be widely held beliefs. Mortars hard counter drills, 3 shells from a mortar turns a drill into a cloud of dust. If you have a well supplied and accurate mortar team, the second a drill gets activated by another team it should recieve an immediate volley of mortar fire.This doesn't work in practice because mortars are so vastly better than anything else at countering FoBs that the game just devolves into a "who can build mortars fastest" simulator. If you have a FoB with mortars you can stop the enemy team from ever having mortars or drills. So now you can spam drill and have the HZ on your base for the entire game, and they have to assault your base with infantry, which is infinitely harder, while also not having the support structure of a functional FoB (because you bombed it). The game is entirely won by whoever has the faster builders, its retarded
>>581266593>The monetary system in this game is extremely rewarding for thoseit's more like it's extremely unrewarding and even detrimental to play infantry. if it was not very lucrative it would be one thing, but it's literally negative cashflow
>>581267005I revived 35 people and barely broke even if I was sitting at a fob An fps game where shooting in the action is the worst part it also doesn’t help gamers are sweaty now so even no SBBM these matches get ass fast
>>581267160That's the thing, i think devs expected you to have a gameplay loop of >Play infantry, lose money>Run low on money>Play support so you can stock up money>Get to play infantry againBut in reality most players are just running support forever to stock up infinite money and advance on metaprogression
>>581266593The only way to lose money is death which heavily incentives never doing anything risky. When im doing logi/building the people attacking the fob are like lemmings and I easily farm them from my relatively safe bunker where Im guaranteed a revive so I can't lose my money.>Play like a fag and camp my fob +$75,000 profit>Try to play hotzone or attack enemy fob -$30,000 loss
>>581266817Exactly this. I have other games to play, but I want to get the cool stuff in this one first.
>>581267350They had multiple betas FOR MONTHS It’s why I do not like this studio they put on this good guy act but are probably assholes who don’t care
>>581267470Did anything actually massively change between the betas to now?
>driving to fob to drop supplies takes 4-6 minutes i dunno how you fags put up with this boring slave labor.
>C4 filled inv>Dune buggyYep, it's arti hunting time.
>>581267642No, I much preferred the beta progression because it didn’t feel like I needed to no life it and wipes made sense for it. Now? This progression is ass and they wanna make the 1st wipe on 2 weeks.It’s turning into a streamer game all those bullshit of “play like you used to” or “is the good ol days of fps” is such bullshit
>>581267642The only thing they did was make the xp grind 10 times slower.>>581267702>spend 5 hours driving boxes.>50,000/750,000 driving XP towards a tankI dont think I can put up with it. I'll unlock the Humvee maybe
>>581267874Bulkhead panders I 100% bet you they’ll kneel on no wipes. These devs never had a success and will wanna keep it going.
>>581267728if it weren't for you, that arti would have to drive all the way back to base to resupply and come all the way back again. it's a good thing you're there so he can have better uptime
>>581268097I doubt it, they keep stressing it’s their vision and they won’t capitulate on development. Streamers like shroud also say the progression is still too quick btw and bulkhead/especially Brammer like being cozy with streamers
>>581268097bro they already sold over 2 millioni don't think they give a fuck. their egos are probably completely overinflated from the success and they think they can do no wrong and the game is already perfect
>>581268097>Week into it people are already 100 and level 25 on some classes>Wipe happens >Season 2 is 3 months >Grind gets even worse now
>>581268097>Refuse to kneel>Fail againMaybe there is a reason these devs never had success before?
>>581268097erm...sweetie???>>581191042THEY are in charge here, not you, okay? Learn your place.
The class progression is also aids Recon has consistent unlocks for its entire skill path, the others don’t. Multiple recon tools/weapons/even weapon variants. While assault is “erm here’s an FAL and a drum mag” or supports “here’s the vector with a 13 round mag uh…you gotta then level up 15 more times for a useful magazine”
>>581267874Yeah, I’d be fine with wiping if that beta xp was still here, it honestly feels like shit comes to a halt at level 15 on classes
>>581268868What is even the benefit of low capacity mags? ADS times? Weight? The mp5 gets 15 at the start too
>>581269264You can fit the tiny mags into your micro cuck backpack so you can save money on your expendable infantryman.
>>581266593I think the bigger problem is that those things are required for high tier unlocks. I didn't want to spend hours doing logi and passenger runs with helicopters while half a dozen other pilots are doing the same, but guess what, it's really hard to hit level 90 without pilot levels. I don't want to drive a ural back and forth a bajillion times but guess what, there's no other way to get consistent driver exp to eventually unlock basic armored vehicles. I don't want to sit around building hescos and doing mortars all game, but guess what, there's no way to unlock MANPADS and mines and other shit without grinding support exp. It goes on and on. Basically anyone caring about any unlocks has to do that shit instead of actual combat, and since at the start of a wipe everyone needs unlocks, everyone is doing that shit instead of actual combatHence why I am now in team "don't wipe you retards"
>>581269264Balance since the vector is probably a rape machine
>>581266403I dont care about sweats, I just dont like the fact that the game is "pay to win" when most people are too cheap to chip in.This is also projection by me since I mainly just buy 1 kit and bum the rest if I die :^)
>>581269264It’s part of their dumb meta bullshit. Notice the galil starts with a 35 rounder right when you get it
>>581268097>>581268336>>581268369I'm hoping they change it because they realize it's actually retarded and hurts the game experience. But yeah if they conclude the community is wrong they won't give a fuck
>the one fucking time I had a stingray dead-on an enemy spawn vic>a fucking retard from my team walks in front of it
>>581269510if they wipe anything it should be money instead of the unlocks. A lot of people are gonna drop the game if their long term progression is getting wiped every month.
blue pups are forming the battle blob
>>581269851The early impressions people had was the money wipe which many were okay with it wasn’t until we got closer to launch they revealed levels too
>>581268103This unironically. Only rocket helis are an actual problem for me. Anything else is too slow and only gets to me after >50% of my ammo is used up and I've easily remade my investment
>>581269969What if they keep levels, wipe money, and re-lock everything? Such that you can still unlock them, but have to grind up the cash first
>>581269510>but guess what, it's really hard to hit level 90 without pilot levels.Another thing is it feels really punishing to branch out to different roles instead of focusing on grinding one branch to level 35 to get the cool stuff before the wipe. They really need to rethink the level wipe before they fuck everyone over.
>>581270175>>581269969Yes I recall people were under the impression money would be wiped into gold and you’d just have to rebuy everything but then it was revealed that it’s a full blown progression wipe too
>increase heli and armed ground vehicle costs by 5-10x>delay heli and armed ground vehicle spawns until there are 10 points on the board>make all infantry roles/kits slightly cheaper>make hotzone passive income also give xp for whatever role you're doing (decided by primary or vehicle you're driving)>make everything in the hotzone payout at least twice as much>limit drills to 1 per fob, or at least make all drills within a fob share a cooldown>triple the ammo usage of mortars and SAM turret>remove mortar follow cam, forcing artyfags to watch the map or work in tandem with an active spotterFixed the game for you, Bremmer.
as predicted the game gets less and less fun the longer it goes>grindy leveling system>late unlocks are busted >new players just get raped>boring metathe retards did so many alphas/ betas and changed absolutely nothing
why don't they just increase the cost of equipment instead of a full wipe. or what about a prestige mode like in COD instead of force wipe... grinding everything again is AIDS
>>581269808it's early access, just get a refund and wait
>>581267702And now half the time you just get shit on by a humvee on the way. I think I'm done with this for now. Hopefully they figure it the fuck out because there is a good game in here somewhere.
>>581269846>sneaking up on enemy fob>they activate their drill>sneak in and begin planting c4 on it>killed by a friendly mortar that somehow (or luckily) had the drill dialed in before I could plant more than 1Sometimes us fucking retards have 1000 IQ plans, you know
>>581237420Do people get full auto stuff on eco. I don't remember last time I played.Also those are much different games. CS map is tiny, everyone knows every spot and angle by name, there are chokepoints you need to pish or be pushed through. Unless one side gets a nade advantage you will have to aim duel. That makes those extra little ehp from armor really important.Here you can just rrush B from the back
Do you feel in charge?
Okay chuds calm down just refund the hand WE TOLD YOU Go back to cod or bf6…the war gods understand this game better than any of you.
>>581270674this pic should be the OP next thread
>>581270478I tried fucking with supply trucks but you get zero money for doing things outside the circle so I ending up losing money.
I like how shills keep stressing this game’s casual when it really is not
>>581270897Yeah it's one of those things where you trade money for fun, like amusement parks or hookers
>enemy team builds a faggot-ass FOB>switch to their team and deconstruct it alleither play the game how it's meant to be played or get griefed
>>581271117>How its meant to played>Team swap griefinganon?
>>581241408The point is they can bring you stuff you really need but the enemy does not haveI played a match today where green I think got dropped crates of nades and it was actual fucking hell. You're just not going to loot 30 nades off enemy bodies, ever. Unless they got them from a crate
>>581270940damn this guy seems really butthurt. i spent all of last night drinking and driving the humvee with the tokyo drift song playing on void and had the most fun i've had in years despite losing my entire net worth
>>581270897interrupting logistics should be super lucrative but you get dickI don't know if they literally just didn't think things through or if they're retarded but the balance is just ridiculious
>>581265685basic bitch ak with 2.5xt3 helmet (so that mosin niggers don't onetap you) + any armor (it really doesn't matter)minimal medsrepeat the loop of kill - loot - heal alliesif you're going directly to the HZ grab adreno stims and stick em into everyone cause they give a 750/pop roi
>>581271339If interrupting logisitics was actually lucrative then half the lobby would spend half the match hunting trucks, further cementing their inferiority to helis. The fact that you get jack shit for killing them is the ONLY thing they have over helis which get shot down the second they enter the CZ, awarding full points
>>581271117holy bitchmade
>>581271293>>581271619alright you got me i dont actually do that but someone did it to me a few games ago
Winning as blue feels so much better.
>>581262332"Maintaining the fob" is a fucking hoax by big driving levelingYou were wasting time and got punished for it
>>581260653This website is 18+
Takes me back to MAG days lads.
>>581272103Community servers with everything unlocked soon. Trust the plan.
thanks to the green meme all the retards are flocking to manticore holy fuck this game is unplayable
Crazy how in both betas I basically only played bakurani and in the last five days I've only been able to play it twice
They need to add some kind of clearer indication to what armor type people are wearing, because he looked like a regular fag to me
>join green>FOB raid the great satan (lonestar) all game>make no profit>loseThis is what the devs intended because I'm having FUN.
>>581271906wasting time by what metric? for making money it's never a waste of time
>>581272369As a lifelong green main I can confirm that the average intellect of green players has plummeted over the past few days.
>>581272369>>581272436
>>581272996yeah nigga i dont care about anything but making the great satan's life miserable
>blue faction is universally considered as moronic incompetentslive free in the nc.........
>>581273321Green smells like stinky Vanu players
>everyone is starting to use T3 armor>no ap rounds yet>fmj is 4 or more shots with basically everything>hollow points are 2 shot if shoot legs>try it>legs are surprisingly reliable to hitnot sure I like this new meta, hope we unlock ap much faster in future.
>>581265685Be really good or only play with friends/travel in large groups so you get revived each time you die.
>>581270940>it really is notbig high playercount sandbox games with -relatively- low punishment for death are almost inherently more casual friendly. It's just not a very tense game.marathon explicitly aimed for tension and I'd say they succeeded. it's a game a lot of people will find exhausting.
Fob/drill meta is only strong now cause people don't have its counters. Give it another 2 weeks and many attempts to drill spam will be met with that team getting bent over and raped by 4 tanks and 2 havocs.
Man. I love stealing team mates gear and reviving them for extra damage
what do people mean by drill spam?
>>581274129gated unlocks for counters is indefensibly dogshit design
>>581274870lv3 hammers build drills which moves the hotzone to it for a while then goes on cd. People cycling multiple drills so it stays put all game
>>581269791meanwhile americucks and their 1911 takes one slot per 7 rounds LMAO
>cant build mortars since need levels>ask someone to build mortars/borrow hammer>by the time I shoot my first mortar, the enemy teams already shower me with their mortarsits also crazy that they don't really have to calc shit, they probably just go to the same spot each time, aim at the exact same angle and already know how far it is from previous matches
ghillie shit seems kind of shit considering grass doesnt render past 100m and you'd already be sufficiently camouflaged if you were proned in a bush without it
I like how the only way to level recon is to be a binocular slave for 10 levels because both the guns pre mosin are complete dogshit
>>581274960This is just practice/learning time with the wipe in a month anyway.They'll probably adjust progression and do balance changes with that patch.
reminder that green is reddit/streamer faction
>>581275624bro if there is a wipe every month there is no hope for this game. it will just further the divide between no-lifers and naked noobletardsprobablys and what ifs do not bode confidence
>>581276136I doubt it will be every month. They said something like probably every 3-4 months to start then they may extend it. 4 months seems pretty reasonable to me. Should mostly prevent it from being similar to the absolute cancer that is late wipe Tarkov.
>>581275605sks is good if the target has no armor
>>581275536Ghillie suit mostly just gets you killed from what I've seen.It makes you model significantly easier to spot from distance even inside a bush
I was having fun with helicopters but at this stage i just don't even want to spawn in one, the SAM site/Stinger rape is too extreme for me to deal with.
>>581269510>I didnt want to do air freight, transport and paratrooper insertions>I didnt want to do logistics and materiel upkeep>I didn't want to build bases and use them to attack enemies and win the game with drills.I'm sorry anon but what the fuck did you want to do then? Either you're retarded or you choose to play a game mainly focused on things you don't like, and then you complain you don't like them.If all you want to do is run around with assault, rez people occasionally and snipe, battlefield is right there. BF6 is even having a free trial. The other half of the package is what makes WarDogs unique and if you hate it so much why the fuck did you buy the game in the first place.
>>581276840They should pay you and give xp for successfully diverting missles.
>>581262332True. Double it.
>>581272385>HP bullets>complaining about armoraim lower
>>581276840SAMs aren't bad. Once you know where they are just stay low or go rape them if you're an armed bird. Iglas are annoying but at least they are only one shot and you have to use a big backpack to carry multiple.It only gets cancer when some fag fills up a hummvee or kodiak with them and sits somewhere covered in trees with them.
>>581276840heliniggers deserve to be raped for their crimes
>>581277829it's not just the price. it's everything. like, why do mortars and arti get a pinpoint camera that shows them exactly where the projectile impacts and full birdseye view vision of literally everything in a 2km radius?where the shell hits should just be a hit marker on the map with the need to rely on spotters to actually find targets. you can't just have it be this strong and this cheap and this safe and this effective with no need for any team coordination or anything. why would I do anything but mortar? I don't think I've ever seen anything so unbalanced in an fps before
>>581274870it requires a LOT of fuel, so harrassing logi is actually a good strat against drill spam. It cuts the chain
Oh you can only play 1-2 match a day? WHOOPS You just lost the progression race.Want to do logi? WHOOPS there's 3 humvees spawn camping the backline.Want to kill the humvees? WHOOPS you don't have MAAWS unlocked and RPGs takes 3 SHOTS to kill Humvees if you hit the engine, it takes 5 everywhere elseWant to do piloting instead? WHOOPS the humvees are also stocking up stingersOkay wanna do Infantry stuff instead? WHOOPS you only have AK unlocked and everyone else is beaming you from 200 meters with M4s
I don't feel good about getting the black and gold AK skin bros...
>>581277840Oh I took that gun from the ground, so i didnt even realize. What a retard uses HP ammo when the ttk is so low unarmored anyway
>>581278385>who uses HP ammoI do with the full auto glock. Just aim at the floor and the recoil will do the rest
>>581278216>counters to armor are a pain in the ass to unlock/use/build/lug around>vehicleniggers get their shit 10+ levels earlier and minute 1 of the matchi am noticing a pattern
Progression and wipes would all be solved if they just add low level unlocks only servers for official.Let the sweats and no lifers play with their tools on the normal gamemodes, let the casuals and battledads grind their unlocks in the casual servers. No lifers is now having to put up against people with the same unlocks tier as them while casuals can still grind driver/pilot comfortably, while infantry have a fairer chance in gunfight etc.Level 15 unlocks only would be the sweet spot for casual servers
>Up the prices for everything and rebalance the entire economics>Get rid of the level xp unlocks>Replace them with nice-to-have perks and role related skins ( think passive little buffs like a slightly faster res, reload, running speed, damage reduction on vehicles, money bonusses, ...)Make good gear and weapons cost a lot of money. Make 30k kits a thing. But now even new players can choose exactly how they want to play. All they need to do is save up money and become mechanically good enough at the game to handle the expensive kits without fumbling all over themselves.
>>581270389If I know my team is going to lose from the first 10 minutes of a match I quit the game and find another server
>>581278559hmmmmmmm. That legshooting strat keeps popping up.. How much of a damage bonus is the hp rounds to the legs? 25%?
>>581269851>>581270175>>581270305Fucking think about that for a minute. If all they did was wipe money and unlocks, every single server after wipe would be full of people doing whatever made money the fastest to buy all the top tier items as soon as possible. Every community server would be a money farm server. The entire metaprogression would be reduced to runescape gold farming by everyone who wants good items.Also it would completely ruin the sense of progression. Why would you buy any of the kodiak variants or the regular humvee when you can just save up money for the minigun humvee. Why would you ever use the RPG when the MAAWS is also just a cash unlock away.It would fuck over the metaprogression of the whole community as well. You were busy with work or friends & family, or you just played a little less than usual on wipe? Too bad, Xinyuang just spent 8 hours on a power pole spotting and now he has the Havoc already.Literallt just think it through.
>>581278570All it takes is one M249//minigun humvee to completely ruin the match for the other team.
Vrooom
>>581270389>new players just get rapedI agree with the rest but I go into the cz with the shit gun and kill people wearing level 3 armor with m4s and take it all the time cause I go broke spending money on helis.
>>581278385>>581278852double damage from what it seems
just give low players a viable option to handle vehicles. why is this so fucking hard?
>>581279139kek that last guy has 0 awareness
is it possible to powerlevel driver and support by placing a fob near base?
>>581279010just put up a low level unlock server like what>>581278715 saidcasuals, late joiners and newcomers desperately need a server like that otherwise the no lifers can just pretty much stomp and farm them without a sweathell, i just farmed 160 kills on minigun humvee because blues average levels was 40 so none of them unlocked MAAWs
>>581279340I don't understand why you would ever gate counters in the first place unless the intention was to turn everything into a one sided stomp
>>581279210Well I guess I underestimated it. Might give it a diddle
>>581277981:)
>>581279672That's not even covered in trees. I would find and kill you easily after the second one.
>>581279139
>>581277709>use them to attack enemies >and win the game with drillsDrillcucking is not attacking, you are sitting in place doing nothing but running around trying not to get mortared (or doing nothing at all while the other teams actually attack each other and have fun)
From now on im only buying a pistol and two mags and just looting corpses for my kit. My autism can't stand going negative (I swear im not jewish)
>>581280115+ parachute
>>581278216>Want to do logi? WHOOPS there's 3 humvees spawn camping the backline.worst case you lose 5.8k, who cares, if you really wanna do ground logi you can swap servers any time you meet resistance, its the same shit xp and all you have to do is drop your pallets in the zone, not a fob.>Want to kill the humvees? WHOOPS you don't have MAAWS unlocked and RPGs takes 3 SHOTS to kill Humvees if you hit the engine, it takes 5 everywhere elsekilling them is rarely productive, ground logi in general is a meme and they aren't really disrupting your team's real logi (Lakota drop offs)
>>581278570Literally just carry a MAAWs in your back pocket. I can get the free rifle, small backpack and a MAAWs with 3 rounds with a truck + 2 pallets. After I deliver the pallets and deposit, I can literally suicide and still break even. MAAWs is lvl 20 support and M249 Humvee is lvl 20 driver except support is so much easier to lvl than driver.And even as an anecdotal example.>Drive with a convoy of trucks to set up FOB>Just after arrival a humvee tries to show up for easy kills>Single MAAWs to the side, instant dead>Humvee never shows up again for the rest of the roundThis has literally happened in 3 seperate games.For 3.2k, take a MAAWs and 3 rounds with you on Ural Truck Simulator, and all your problems will be solved.
>>581279210Neck is not armored.>t. took 99 damage from a single shot of 5.56 HP at 100m yesterday wearing full level 3 armor
>>581197169Read nigga>>581278784They literally have skill trees in development, confirmed to add small perks like revive speed and fuel efficiency, and confirmed to not wipe, being used as a way to flesh out your own personal progression and have permanent benefits.
>>581280330T3 Helmet says it protects neck. Suppose t4 helmet does the same.
Remember when bremen walls had barbwire ontop of them? I miss those...
>>581280302>Just get to level 20 before you start having fun>The raping stops when you turn level 20 supportThis is like when jobs require you to have 10+ years of experience to get an interview for a entry-level position
>>581280098A FOB can be used to attack with mortars, as well as defend with CWizz and SAMs. If the other two teams are fighting each other while you keep drilling the hot zone, then they deserve to lose for being completely retarded. At that point they should immediately stop fighting for second place and instead take out the first place team with the drills. But given one of the losing teams is usually blue, it makes sense that theyre not smart enough to try to win the game.
Can you use the drill or hammer to destroy enemy vehicles?
>>581281232People are complaining about Humvees when in reality they are incredibly easy to deal with, I gave the best solution which is unlocked at a similar XP gate as the humvees. You can use RPGs as well anon, they will just be slightly less effective.
>get a huge run (for myself, I guess.) >sitting on 100k >unlock a couple things>back to 10~grandoh, ok. they weren't even worth unlocking, really is the worst part. the RPG is dogshit and a bigger clip for an SMG is uh. that's nice I guess. At least I got the SKS?
I don't get what was up with them making it so one faction is bright blue, while another the other one has functional camo.
>roll on mouse>can't aim worth a fuck, keyboard yaw is too jittery>yaw on mouse>can't land worth a fuck, keyboard roll feels super touchy
>>581282893sitting on a fat stack doesn't get you anything you aren't buying any meaningful amount of gold this or next week, just try out everything and have fun. why the fuck did gold price start at 2 mil, shouldn't it start a 0 and then go up?
>>581283491>>581282194
>>581281328>g-green is just smarter!>he said, sitting in place for an hour until he gets a "you win" screengreencels make excellent targets for 155mm HE shells, at least. Notice how artychads are always red or blue?
fun fact i get 14k for blowing up your artillery tank
>do literally anything>removed from the game??? it just says kicked.
fun fact i get 50k for annihilating your fob
>>581282893Some anons said to lower your mouse sensitivity on helicopters to like 0.2It will still feel like shit but you won't instantly die trying to land or aim
>>581283675Yeah I guess. I've enjoyed the other unlocks - the jump from binos to the mono is a fun one, it feels good. the assault rifles feel good to level up and get. I do wish I was better at the actual shooting, unless it's close quarters i'm basically a stormtrooper, so that's some bias about the weapons. Maybe the SKS is appreciably better than that dogshit little doodad you get as a sniper at level 1 but I haven't tried it out yet.
>>581284304The level 1 sniper isn't really a bad weapon per se, it's just very slow to reload. Does decent damage and fun to shoot, albeit it looks like a damn BB-gun rather than a rifle
>>581283986Arty tanks are really going to be a waste of money when more people get rocket birds. Already seeing the zone between HQ and CQ being completely cleaned up by rocket birds kek
Is there more cancerous strat than this?
>>581284838>Check enemy team levels>Blue is below 50 on average>Proceed to get 100+ killsNo, not even mortarding is this retardedly braindead.MAAWs should be unlocked even earlier because RPGs does JACKSHIT against humvees.
Lay it on me straight, friends.I have a VKB stick, is HOTAS superior for helis in this game or am i better off learning kb/m movement?
>mortar'd a humveelmao
>>581285163just shoot the tires. it costs one mag and completely cripples them. you fob lords are such tightwads with ammo, stop crying to the assault chads to fix your sand castles.
>>581284656SPG + full load of shells costs less than 10k. You make that back within 3 shells lobbed into any built-up FOB. Unless the rocket helis are actively patrolling your team's routes from HQ to CZ at all times, with zero AA opposing them, it's practically impossible to lose money with SPG.
>scout out 20 bums all clustered together >not a single teammate from the fob 20 feet away attacks themThere is a fucking live map on the bottom left of the screen at all damn times
>>581273475Good luck hitting legs when they're behind some hesco
>>581286178buckshot is pretty okay with leg shots as well but range is obv awful. You get slugs at wardog level 41, those are neat
>>581285848Can the mobile artillery hit tanks at close range or can it only function by camping in it's color base as shooting across the map
>>581280709>in developmentLike what, yet another tier of progression on top of it all? It's getting too much. Those perks should be tied to role exp.
>>581286471The turret is very slow to move so no.Amusingly, it can function as an armored gun truck that doesn't require driver leveling, since it has a mounted m249 that works like any other lmg turret. I've seen at least one crew plowing into hotzone using it that way lol
>>581285767>and completely cripples themwhat the fuck are you talking about? they can just drive away and repair and they have way more drill battery/wrench durability than you have ammoat best you can be a mild annoyance doing that unless you have 2+ other teammates with you doing the same thing and 1 has ap rounds to shoot through the window. it's just not that easy to deal with without maaws
>>581285767They're not crippled unless at least 3 tires are popped, even then they're fast enough to get away to repair. They're not going to stand still and let you shoot their tires, they're gonna keep moving in and out and get at least a kill or two on every run.I know because I abused humvee with the boys and got at the very least 80 kills a match. Enemy got MAAWs on fob? Just farm their backlines or the other enemy team backline preferably blue because they're all newbies and dont have ATs.Also humvees are fucking cheap and you always break even after 3 kills easily
>M249 Humvee is 3.7k$>Just need 3 kills to break evenOkay no wonder everyone went humvee, its cheaper than a fully kitted infantry and you easily get 2-3 times your money back per life lmfao
>>581287081With all 4 tires completely blown out the humvee is getting away at a snail pace that slower than your ADS slow walk. >t. humvee blast haver
MOMS SAYS ITS MY TURN TO DRIVE THE HUMVEEE
>>581287081You have to fully destroy the tire, just popping it isnt destroying it. Shoot it until its nothing but a rim. Both rear tires fully broken and it cant even move anymore because the rearwheel drive rims dont touch the ground, though one fully destroyed usually is enough to make it snail speed.
>>581287671>>581287762what humvee driver is letting a single guy shoot out all 4 tires?? or even 2?
>>581279139Running over the mentally retarded should be illegal and at least be negligent manslaughter.
>>581286570you're getting exp for perks right now from what they've said, every action is tracked and you'll get benefits "as soon as the UI catches up"
I've played 2 entire rounds today and didn't see a single humvee. I did have my first encounter with a drone though. I don't think it was that effective because it was just the one.Both matches were just the usual mortars, choppers harrassing fobs and lots of AA builds. Maybe I'm playing at the wagey hours
>>581287859When it happens to me it's because I'm running over fobbits and there are 4+ guys blasting my tires as I try to get out. I don't have lmg humvee yet, just the first one so I use it for running over people and jumping out with maaws and back in.
>>581279076I’ve yet to die to a humvee gunner. They are so easy to kill since the only thing you can hit is their retarded forehead. Granted I have 1700 hours in Squad and have probably killed 300 humvee gunners in my time there.
>>581287859If you're a single guy getting caught by a humvee you probably deserve to get got, the people whining about them are fob builders who dont bring ammo or even guns.
All the humvee defenders are all humvee blast havers who just wants to farm blues because they don't have MAAWs unlocked.
>shitters starting to unlock Humvees and boasting they are invincible in my lobbies>Proceed to pull out my tank and remind them who really is in charge.No greater feeling than humbling these faggots
>>581287859Any retarded driver that I see coming and tries to run me over. As long as you aren’t in an open field you can loop him as if you were playing dead by daylight. Most humvee drivers are just as braindead as the people they run over.
>>581286570The skills trees are directly tied to the classes. Driver, Assault, Medic, Pilot, Support, Recon. Only thing we known is what's already said by other anon that they will be permanent forever and will be added retroactively as they become available. The developers said they are "runescape inspired" whatever that means. I imagine shit like faster bandaging, faster hand reviving, fuel efficency, loading/unloading mags faster and such things but I never played runescape so I wouldn't know.
>>581288523fobbits and mortards doesn't know yet that you can get 100k+ a game just by farming blues on humvees
>>581288770humvees are still more effort than playing minecraft/mortarding tho
>>581288663Every humvees are gunner humvees anonThey always keep distance and shoot you down from 70-80 meters away before running away, no need to dead by daylight them when they can just farm kills from the distance
>>581288895nah gunner humvees are more braindead than mortards nowjust pull up a gunner humvee and go to blue at the start of a round, you'll get 20+ kills easily in the first 5 minutes
>>581288663i shoot their wheels and mock them as they limp away
>drop pallet of ammo>appears on top of my tail rotor>chopper banks uncontrollably and smashes into tree
>>581289126I've had guys do this to me, and the second they reload or turn around I jump out and blast them with my full auto glock and jump back in.
>Get all my my tires shot out>Limping away as multiple people come up to my humvee to insult me>mfw c4 in my humvee as a last resortThanks for the 30k redtards
>>581288965I assumed we were talking about a humvee with a dead gunner or a non-mg humvee trying to run people over. If it’s not trying to run people over then it isn’t a threat at all so who cares.
>>581289223the animation for hopping out and in is really fast its sometimes hard to notice
Can you quick swap seats in the hummer?
>>581289542yeah, you can do it in anything
nigga let me dual wield glocks nigga
>>581289294Based blast haver
>>581289542Yes. Sometimes I unlock it, with a crate occupying the left back seat and I F4 to right backseat and wait for retards to enter the humvee and blast them.
okay so where are these fabled infantry only servers? Im done with the current meta. Vehicles faggots are just not fun to fight against. >I got taste so You can't disagree with my stance without being marked a retard, sorry ;=(
>>581289294It's my favorite strat. I'm always shocked when humvee drivers don't carry c4 as a going away present. Idiots always run up to talk shit to you when they pop your tires and it's a free double murder suicide every time.
As many problems as the progression system may have, it really helps when you've just lost 4 rounds in a row with less than 10 points because you're stuck in blue. In any other game, I'd be tilted and considering uninstalling after the second match, but here I'm totally fine because I'm still getting money and unlocking shit for every role
What's the max speed you can fly without destroying pallets? I'm flying below 90 altitude but still getting my supplies destroyed when I do hot drops at 200+km/h.
>>581289885Choose community then filter. Turn off standard and turn on infantry only (optionally hardcore too) and take a look.
>>581289975Pythagorean theorem my man
>>581290108cool cool. Ill give it a gander
>>581289294blessed
>>581289959One benefit to blue is grinding medic and pilot because they keep dying.
>>581290335Why didnt i think of this. Blue is probably great driver exp if you can get the APC spawn because they all die and respawn so much.
>new to pilot, just playing it to level it up for some easy wardog levels>full little bird and fly into cz>everyone except one guy jumps out at the tower we hold>figure he wants to go to hz instead so fly over there>he doesn't budge>getting alarms from being locked on constantly now>he wont fucking move>need to do evasive maneuvers>new pilot so end up clipping a tree and going down with me and himdid he seriously want me to land?
I feel like overall green may have good tower placements on some configurations but they have pretty garbage non-tower fob locations. Blue has mostly shit tower placements but great non-tower fob spots. Red has the best of both on all three maps.
>>581290493You're not winning as blue unless there are clanfags on the team so best to not play to win but play to grind.
Surely they're going to do a balance pass before next season right? I don't think this game will survive months of this level of mortar spam
>>581290524Next time press F to bring up the action menu and kick him out. Some people are just retarded and alt tab during the ride over and miss their drop.
>>581290335I blow up my own APC so I have goys to drop off in my LB
>>581290524Most likely. I've had passengers with parachutes not getting out unless I land. They are the ones that always tip me too so maybe they just want to see if you are a good pilot?
>>581290852Kek. I went blue once and I saw someone had dumped the apc in the middle of no man's land and nobody bothered to go get it for the whole match.
>>581290694They will make changes. This first season is the test bed and they said they will change the metagame so if fobbing is the metagame now, maybe HZ is next metagame. We'll just have to wait and see. Personally I hope they give mortars the drone treatment, not necessarily 5k per shell but maybe 500-1k per shell and only one at a time.
>purchase t3 hammer and fob>load up ural with 2 fuel pallets>build drill fob on very backline edge of circle furthest from enemies>pull hz to it>rinse and repeat when it gets destroyedIt's silly how often this wins "unwinnable" rounds where my team is getting raped.
>>581291659driving the ural, and building the drill sounds like it would take forever tho. Sure you may win doing this, but it sounds dreadfully boring imo
>blue with the church map>feels like fighting uphillis it just me or blue is just overally fucked with map placement with every map?
>>581291996It's not about the money, it's about sending a message. Plus I like reading the chat when other teams sperg out about how broken drills are.
>>581291659doesn't sound very profitable. how much do you even make pulling that stunt?
jesus christ why would i look at reddit, what the fuck is wrong with methe first post i saw is some patronizing "le infantry economy is actually fine if you do [assorted non-infantry tasks]"holy fuck shut up the game can have problems
>red is running away with the game 0-70-0>get our mortars online, start dialing on their quad drill>Start taking arty tank hits from red>"Damn, well we should be able to at least pressure them enou-">Blown into a million pieces by a blue artillery tank seconds laterAre people intentionally team swapping to get angles for their friends or are the people in this game just fucked in the head?
>1.5m for a gold bar>ak skin requires 30 barsAre these niggers insane?
>>581291996>but it sounds dreadfully boring imoyou mean like all the lucrative things in this game
doomers OUT
>>581292619He breaks even on that loadout easily. The profit probably comes from the rest of the match.
>>581292901https://wardogs.zone/calculators/artillery
How the fuck do I make sure im joining a server where match hasn't been going on for 50 fucking minutes already?For gods sake, just finding a game is a real challange
>>581292712If you want to play a game where you aren't punished for being useless there are plenty. If you aren't shit infantry is free money. There's a reason those people with 30 kills and 5 deaths are top of the leaderboard every game.
>>581292901Arty tank mains on all teams are braindead retards who just shoot at whoever is spotted and easiest to hit. They don't even know who's winning or who they would help their team more by shooting.
>>581293103>matchmatches are for ladders
>>581293150lol. lmao, even
>>581289959It’s the opposite for me if I don’t get a good match I’ll pull my hair out I even consider leaving because it’s not worth investing anything anymore
>>581293103join any game with less than 80 so you get a new game going? they fill up fast for now because the game is new
>sit in queue for 10 minutes>join>"This server will shut down after round ends">green team is at 97 points>sit in queue for 10 minutes>join>"This server will shut down after round ends">red team is at 97 pointsI JUST WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
>>581293251Feel free to counter by posting your end of round scoreboard where you fragged out and didn't make any money. I'll wait
learning to fly the black hawk put me at 200$ networth, what do i do now? EuroTruckSim?
>>581293103>>581293370hide empty servers and filter by player countthen join anything that's like 80ish players, that's almost always a fresh match>>581293426here >>581243476
>>581292946My schizo theory is it's high at the start of the season to keep cosmetics rare and then it will plummet towards the end so anyone with a decent amount of cash saved up can start buying bars>>581293103Turn off "show full" and "show empty" and then sort by player count low to high. Join any one of them with fewer than 80 players. The 10 count ones are the best because you can usually pick your team with no issue and it fills up quick after
It's actually pretty grim just how different the heli flight models are in this game.Been doing LilBird dropoff runs with a little mix of miniguns before SAMniggers make aviation irrelevant and finally got to the black hawk so I can do supply drops and holy FUCK it's so much worse to handle than the little chopper its insane. I have a .5s lag between stick input and heli response, not to mention it is EXTREMELY easy to spin out while adjusting on it. It's probably even worse with assist off.
>>581293460That's not what I asked for. Nobody said you can't make money by playing non combat roles. Show me proof that you don't make money when you frag out.You won't because you can't. You're just mad that you're being punished if you play infantry and aren't useful because you're skill gapped.
>>581293757honestly i think making $280k jerking off when someone actually fragging out is #10 on the leaderboard is enough of an argument to suggest that hey, maybe the risk:reward for infantry is positively rapedto be clear i'm not bleeding money on infantry. i'm wincing at needing to frag the fuck out just to break even while some retard with binos is printing money just by looking at my 20k kit>You're just mad that you're being punished if you play infantry and aren't useful because you're skill gappedswing and a miss buddy, good projection though
>Just bring MAAWs for humvee bro>Proceed to complain why people become fobbits to level support to get MAAWsegads
>>581289771devilish
fuck levelling pilot I give up on this tree
>just unlocked humvve >tomorrow everyone will have ap ammole sigh
Game's more fun when everyone is on the early unlock tree.
>>581290228Yeaaaaaaaah no fob faggots and no vehicles?? this is what i want
how do you grind enough support to get the MADPAD? I will not click the yellow XI would SAW but I can't use that yet either
>>581295548>MADPADMANPAD I meant of course
>>581293434Get the cheap binoculars and go in naked and loot everything you can find. One spotted target and you're already making profit.
>>581293709thats good tho one weighs 3,550 lbs and the other 24,500 lbs>assist onnigga...>>581294251the dot shouldn't update it then would only punish campers and give a slight to nerf mortars
>>581295548Get to trucking. It's support xp when you drop and when you or someone else unload the pallets into a fob. Or use mortar, Sam, cwis.
>>581278805just play green if you're than much of a pedantic sore loser faggot that can't find personal victories without the literal game telling you you did
is there a better feeling than hitting a little bird faggot with a surprise RPG?There isn't.Also managed to hit the Havoc but it tanked the rocket or didn't register
Jesus christ I want some new items but the support grind is the most miserable slop.Back to the 50k recon xp grind for a new scope. Only 180k xp after that before a new gun.
>>581279010Devs talked about adding level cap servers. An example would be level 1-30 servers where you cannot join them if you are wardog 31+
>>581296478>>assist onGive me one reason to turn these off. I tried once and it felt like I was having a seizure on the stick. Actually, watching how everyone flies the hawks I think i should go kbm. I can't see a single positive about using HOTAS.
When are they implementing full controller support? I genuinely can't be fucked to play on keyboard and mouse
>>581297035How would that even work? 80% of my kills I'm shooting at a sliver of a pixel of some dudes helmet sticking out, aim assist would never be functional enough for it to not be cock and ball torture
>>581294251Money is literally worthless so long as you can afford your next kit so who cares
>>581285848rocket birds do exactly that, they just camp the route between cz and hq. you guys are fucked
fresh >>581298651
>>581297035Never controller auto aim cuck
>>581297035bro, your steam input?>>581297769you can make anything work with flickstick and gyro even in the most intense fps games but it requires a lot of muscle memory. that guy probably isn't talking about that though so I have no idea how controllerfags that just aim with stick cope
>>581296662Reminds me of decimemeing airniggers in ps2
>tfw AP ammowhat's the point of this crap?the only exception is AP 308 or R for bolt actions so you can onetap T3 helmets
>>581296856you can do barrel rolls you should fly back hawk on kmb for shure. just did a test the fake imput delay feels like ass
>>581299389>what's the point of this crap?For shooting vehicles.
