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it's over.
World of Warcraft: Forever wonRetoilet is confirmed dead, The Last Flop will be the last expansion of the retoilet
its going to be different
>>580988702FFXIV and WoWfg will be regarded as the best MMORPG's of all time.
>>580989049>xivbig no dudego back to your erp second life thread
>>580989034some things will different in a good way
>>580989049kek, based zoomers spouting stupid shit
They were hinting at Classic+ since Undermine, pic related
>>580989143forever if it was good
>>580988702>>580988918I'm so grateful for them revealing Skyborne. I was almost tempted to come back but seeing that paywalled tranny reskin proved blizzard is still as retarded as ever. So thanks for that.
>>580988757Not yet, no it's not...https://files.catbox.moe/wj2xf3.png
>>580989360wow it's never been more over
>>580988918If that were true, you'd be in /wowfg/ instead of here.
Who is forever for? It's clearly not a turtle like with the fact they're instantly going for retailification
>>580989358Same, i was kinda willing to hear them out but then I read "Skyborne (neutral race)" and didn't even have to see the models to know if was fucking over as far as being classic+. Just the name "skyborne" has that concord/highguard type sound to it, doesn't it? Soulless AAA game dev speak.
Does Enhance still have DW in Forever or is it the 2H windfury meme?
So now that WoW is going End of Live Service after TLT, what MMO are you guys going to switch over to?
Any idea how many names can you reserve? 1 or multiple?
Forever if they actually tried to make sense
TOTAL CLASSIC WoW VICTORY
>>580989634>Just the name "skyborne" has that concord/highguard type sound to it, doesn't it?It's just nightborne again, if they were trying to set themselves apart from retail, they failed miserably.
>>580989913Faction balance would be dead if they did this.Nobody wants to play the ugly nigger races on the Horde, the faction literally cannot survive without the pretty sissy elves.
>>580989942>Classhit realms immediately die like WTC employees the second Forever is announced>"victory"
So where da real playable Amani at?
>no one has used wowcg to talk about classic since maybe tbc>mop gets 0 announcements at blizzconkinda funny how them relaunching classic 7 years ago led to SoD, anniversary servers, hardcore, and now forever, and it got 0 fucking mention by blizzard. God damn do I feel stupid for sticking with it for so long. All those mountsmogcheevos, gone like tears in rain. and tokens doubled in price from 73k last week to 150k from friday to now.
>>580990052Turtle wow was that and the balance was pretty good tho
>>580989465LA cafe visitors
>>580989942>trying to wage an franchise war within the same franchise and IP
>>580989668enhance is tank now sorry, and it's the worst one
>>580990147Turts was also a private server and free to play.Things change rapidly when money enters the picture.
>>580990085yes? forever is meant to kill classic and consolidate those players not to mention they are already ok with mtx
How should we make Foreverfags apologize to us once their game dies?I hate to say it, but we'll need to be rather harsh so they learn their lesson.
>he's scared of pic related
>>580990524>Sky HigherWHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAA MY MIIIIIIIIIIIND!!!!!
Please, I'm already so fucking tired of the blue Elves. Talk about anything but the Skyborne. They don't feel WoW at all.
>Asmongold knew about every single announcement>Asmongold knows about what's coming in forever>also literally knows the ending to The Last Kino and what's coming after it>is hyped about all of themHoly fuck are they actually gonna make just one WoW game after TLT and season of Forever ends??One WOW community again?? complete???Please Blizzard I would kneel IRL... no more retarded splits just WoWgods and one WoW...
>>580990652Most people will make them look like high/blood elves and you'll barely notice it
>>580990407yeah but it's bullshit they had people play for 7 years then go "yeah we're just not gonna mention this version at all."
>>580990640Together!
Forever is DOA unless Alex gives his endorsement.
>>580990797To be fair classic players knew they had an expiration date at some point and again they are not going to mention classic at all because they are done with classic.
>>580990793At least we skipped the years where you weren't allowed to make your void elf human colored because of some weird autism from blizz, but it is bizzare they are doing it AGAIN
>>580989428It really isn’t over, my vulpera male went through ‘twink death’ but really it was just rebirth. He’s still just as beautiful inside.
>>580990714Asmongold said he "heard amazing things for TLT" and is excited about them too.Just one last split and then WoW brothers will unite forever (for real)
>No Plans for WoW token or Character Boosts in WoWforeverThen I won't play your game
/ourguy/ preach approved WoW Forever
>>580991182They said the same about classic tho.
How many "collect me 8 bear asses so I can make my gay boyfriend a gift!" quests will be in the skyrborne starting area?
>>580991213sad so sad
>>580990992>they are not going to mention classic at all because they are done with classic.yes but it would be nice for them to actually make a statement to this effect.
Are the zaralek carvern quests supposed to scale past 70? I just leveled 75~80 doing them. The quest rewards kept increasing in ilvl too. Maybe it's due the endeavor
>>580991536No reason to do a statement because they can keep playing on those servers but they shouldn't expect a thing.>>580991545Yes the nifflen endeavors.
>>580991213he got absolutely exposed in classic by not even making it to 60.
>>580989143Boob sliders will save retail
>>580991545I think the intended route is to level 1-80 in DF for whatever reason, then do the War Within recap if you want to have context for Midnight or skip it and go to Midnight skipping the recap.If I had to say, I'd tell you to the recap it's the important bits from TWW and the last part is actually kino
Does fem skyfu have sexo underwear? Asking for a friend
>>580990524>Sky Higher TogetherThe fact that I can see the troons at Blizzard adding those kinds of greeting/farewell phrases to the blue elves NPCs amuses and terrifies me.
>>580991161The last split, SOVL
>>580991545>>580991874I wouldn’t do the recap unless you really want to hit 90/don’t care about the story, it’s VERY condensed and jankymy favorite moment is a cutscene playing showing a giant robot aggressively running out of the ocean only to hard cut to a “then they defeated it moving on” text box
>Join run>Mage keeps pulling>The millisecond I initiate combat all 3 of the ranged dps send everything, instantly getting snap aggroI kinda hate this patch and what Blizzard has done to tank aggro
>>580991161It's obvious Midnight has been abandoned already as 12.1 sucked cock and 12.2 looks even more dogshitTLT and 14.0 will save worlo
https://www.wowhead.com/news/minimap-addon-tech-will-be-disabled-in-hotfix-382863LIQUIT SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>580992252mages just don't know how to play with orb
>Housing is still faction locked>Forced to use orc or blood elf exteriors instead of the superior human one
>>580990453we don't need apologiesthe humiliation they will suffer will be enough to suffice their transgressions
>>580992423What if I tell say you can go to the alliance house zone and build a house?
>Talebound will not be around forever, but they don't have an exact end date yet.OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFOMO SHITE
>>580992423>human exterior>superiorIdiot
>>580992325yeah 100%, they keep pulling left and right, no doubt about it. They also have insane snap aggro and most of the time they are too dense to iceblock or invis or some other shit to reset it.
>>580988702>WUH WUH WHAT?! I CAN PAY 30 DOLLARS TO PLAY AS A BLOOD ELF RECOLOR IN WORLD OF WARCRAFT "FOREVER"?! LET ME JUST FINISHING SHITTING MY STY IN DELIGHT AND PRE PURCHASE THIS YUMMY SLOPPA! HOLD ON. AAAAAHHHHHH UUURRGGGH. JUST SHIT MY BRAINS OUT SOMETHING FIERCE. OINK OINK SUUUUUUEY SUUUUUUEEEEEEEEY SNORT SNOOOORT *braaap* SUUUUUUEY SUUUUEEEEEY OINK OINK OINK *braaaaaap*
>>580990147No 2/3 of the whole population were humans/night Elves/high Elves
>>580992723the sovl races
>>580992423>still no draenei exteriors
New meme template. Use with extreme prejudice.
Again, echo lost the mdi despite gingi saying on record liquid was shit and they only win races because of a head start (that wasnt even a thing this time)
>>580992797>Pay up, piggie.
so uhh...i've been away for a few days flinging shit at classhit players and i think the new game looks cool...but uh.....WHY THE FUCK DID WE NOT GET THE GRAPHICAL UPDATESTHE SEXY SKYBORNE UNDIESAND THE CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONSHUH??HUH???HUH??????THAT SEEMS BAD, NO??WE'RE THE MAIN GAMEWE'RE THE MAIN CHARACTER NOT FUCKING CLASSHITWHATTHE FUCKSOMEONE TELL ME WHY I SHOULD CALM DOWN RIGHT NOW
>Armor type restrictions are being removed, but weapon type and class restrictions will remain.
>>580992775>Wanting furry cosmetics
I think what needs to happen is they need to make wow Forever, the new wow retail. And then what they need to do is add murlox as a playable race alongside knolls, ogers. Tuscar and a new shrimp based race that have an aquatic form where they can swim. Fast underwater at that point, they need to remove night elves from the game, and they need to add player housing. This is all going to happen in classic. Wow, that's the leak that I've heard. At least I would say through a Chinese Reddit source but at the end of the day, I mean, it's honestly the best thing that's ever come to this game. So what I need you guys to do is send me money on PayPal? And I need you also to put in a good word for blizzard to unban, me, cause I'm banned until February of next year. Thank you.Forgive any typos. I was talking into my phone while I was driving my automobileMaybe globofomo will invite me to their wow forever guildOr maybe once im unbanned from wow retail ill be invited to the wowg housing community Doubt it Niggers have kidney stones and tears to matchI made a joke in my guild chat about Taurens having to put up with Bone Thugs-N-Harmony and I was censored through reddit gold and down doots
>>580992921because retail is being sunset, it's not even canon anymore since the new wc3 campaign ties into Forever. even blizzard is realizing its irredeemably shit and only played by junkies who can't give up on their account collections
>>580993048That make sense, source?
>>580990524>the replaceable hands look exactly the same as the stock handsof course the STYborne pig loves AI slop in addition to elf slop.
>Paul confirms that Sargeras' sword just missed the Worldsoul, as seen in the image that players have noticed.>It should become very clear that Blizzard has not forgotten about the Sword in Eclipse.>The sword came very close to hitting the Worldsoul.WORLD CORE CONFIRMED BELOW SILITHIUS
>>580993194is it not just in the middle of the planet?
>>580993194no way, the WORLD CORE is BELOW the planet?
>>580993194the world core would be in the...core...no?
>>580993194>sword is shown coming in basically sidewaysif it were below then the sword would be coming in through the top.
>>580993194>center (core) of the planet is under [zone]
>>580993098So did you give yourself schizophrenia trying to manifest your drac's visage form as your tulpa?
>>580993391ofc not, the maelstrom is in the middle of the planet and it leads to deepholme
>>580993098>avatarfag>I think what needs to happen isskip
>>580993113https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-sword-new-paladin-quests-bonus-rolls-blizzard-interview-with-icy-veins-382874
>>580993098I think you should stay contained inside the retoilet with all of your furry subhuman races
>if the void touches the worldsoul for a second it’s irreparably corrupted>the titans have had full control of the worldsoul for thousands of years and it’s not ordered yetloregods explain
>>580993632>Don't read too much into Ion saying we need to help Azeroth "one last time".shitposters bros ion cooked us...
Any sexy sluts on argent dawn eu?
>Azeroth becomes titan>Shatters the world as she emerges>This is the end of the world...of warcraftKino
>>580993718lore writers moved over to Forever, modern lore is just chatgpt free version
>>580993740>pov: you work at a suicide prevention hotlines on the day retail reaches EOS
>>580993638It should be legal to kill the families of furry players.
>>580993098nice blog faggot
>>580993934I'm sorry the meme died so soon anon>Never say never for the Forever transmog acquisition in Retail.Oh no another dead meme...
Is the queen playing Forever?
>>580994014NTA but im gay LOL! you furry too like me?
>>580993718Nah this makes sense. Destruction is easier than creation. Knocking down a wall is easier than building one. Now scale to a planet
>>580992921anyone? how does it make sense for them to shitcan a product that pulls way better numbers than classhitit makes no sense, and this doesn't confuse any of you?perhaps it shouldn't, i mean we know they're incompetent as fuck but god damnif they fuck up and don't turn it around in time they could just kill the studio do dumb nigger shit like this man
Forever is W after W, you can keep your pozzled shit game thank you!
>>580990065My guild leader is freaking out about that happening to us and is silencing Forever talk.
>even wc3 video got more viewsWhy does no one care about retail anymore bros? is it over for us?
>>580991874Rest of DF stops scaling at 70 and chromie time is locked out for me. >>580991657Nice surprise i guess. I was doing the zaralek campaign hoping it'll give me access to Emerald Dream without going through the whole campaign.
>>580994431Yeah my friend really wanted the zulaman mount but tbc anniversary will die in a month.
>>580994324>anyone? how does it make sense for them to shitcan a product that pulls way better numbers than classhitTheir new CEO is an Indian woman. Intelligence is NOT a factor here.
>>580994468holy shit it's over
>>580994468OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
>>580994564i mean the leadership is full of clowns but by literally every metric retail does better and they just throw all of these new tech goodies at an ancient productits almost like a fucking controlled demolitioni just dont get it and i'm sure a bunch of you morons think i'm shitposting but this is genuine concerni didn't bust my ass for that fucking red bird for these retards to make everyone log off before i even got to show it off
>>580994468look at Talebound lmaooo people were probably like holy shit new game? and then its some slop plunderstorm dogshit only mountsmogscheevos rats will do because it has a mount reward
>>580994919The problem is you're trying too hard bro, you're literally transparent.
>Uldaman will have 4 bosses, with the Lost Vikings encounter being removed.LOST VIKINGS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>580994324>why didn’t we get graphics updatesdevs said they have to be manually added, it’s not as simple as pressing the “new graphics” buttonplus they’re clearly using the fog/lighting/shadows to make the ancient textures look better, it’s not as applicable to retail>why don’t we get skyborne undies/customizationwhy would you want anything shitborne anyway
>>580994324>>580992921No yeah shits fucked. They're pissing away 20+ years of world building because it got hard and the community didn't like what they came up with. They should've just said, "tough fuckin titties, assholes, we built a world with fantasy space goats and gay centaurs". And the thing is the silent majority has already accepted and internalized the new canon after years of growing pains. We took a lot of shit to get here and they're gonna force a Mulligan. Fuck that. What an embarrassment for Gaming.The only remaining cope is that WoW "Forever" is just the testing ground for WoW 2 mechanics, and their going to continue their story there.
you will never have old elite sets
>>580994919stop playing this game for other people bro that shit is pathetic as fuck
>>580994468>It won't replace retail don't be silly >Uhm blizzard said it's making 200x retail money so...we're going to rename to WoW:Museum>WoW:Forever is now retail HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH
There's a really cool way to infuse yourself with Azerite in Patch 12.2, and it will be part of the way your character plays.AWW SHIT HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH BFA AZERITE SHIT, LITERALLY STEALING CONTENT FROM BFA AGAIN
>>580995129>Uhm blizzard said it's making 200x retail moneynew cope just dropped!
>retail will be remembered as gay centaur game
>>580995032>we got so accustomed to eating shit!! why did they give us a proper meal finally FUCK YOU MOMjesus christ, these are the people who play retail? pathological.
>>580994324They shitcanned classic for Forever.Nothing about what's happening with anniversary realms. Nothing about WoD classic after MoP. Classic as it stands is officially in Maintenance mode and Forever its taking its place.
>forever will be remembered as the trans smurf game
>"Forever should feel like it belongs in Vanilla">"Oh also here's Void Elves on both sides that'll be $29.99+tip"
>>580995292>t. guy who thinks he knows what he wants but he doesn't
>>580995325well I mean how many permutations of classic with no changes can they do until they just hit retail
The real reason Forever was made is because retail code is too difficult for those trannies. Easier to delete 90% of the game and let claude handle the rest
>>580994928I didn't even see anything about Talebound on the main stream, I guess they mentioned new standalone game mode offhandedly, but no details at all
>>580994919>its almost like a fucking controlled demolitionUh, yeah. It is. Always has been.
>WoW:Forever gets announced>New engine>Every other WoW version including WoW Retail is in full panick modeWE ARE SO BACK, IF YOU CANNOT SEE HOW THIS IS WOW 2 FULL RESET YOU HAVE TO BE RETARDED
>>580995379if you actually enjoy retail lore rather than simply tolerate it, you're a failure to launch male and need to be put down before you pull an elliot rodger
>>580994919Genuine concern about what? Minor engine changes that will come to retail in TLT?
>>580994975are you saying i'm lying and actually shitposting?i'm literally mazed to the gills if thats what you're insinuating>>580994990>plus they’re clearly using the fog/lighting/shadows to make the ancient textures look betteridk i think certain parts just look better than retail with what i saw over the weekend, i thought the presentation last night about duskwood was fucking moronic tho with that paper tree in the foreground, don't know who approved that but they're a fucking idiot >why would you want anything shitborne anywayi think the tattoos are cool and one of the hairstyles is really good, so i want that shit for my retail characters >>580995117you're mischaracterizing the situation, begone
>>580995421Too difficult and game breaks with every single new patch, you can't fix the game forever with duct tapes and zip ties
>>580995652Honestly anon you're doing the right thing, concernshitposting is far better than all the stupid shit the discord trannies are spamming (the dev interview already killed their copes).
>>580995503they went pretty in-depth on the retail “what’s next” segment>roguelite gameplay>three classes with dark souls-esque combat>four different “levels” to play through>heavily inspired by horrorit seems fun, and it should have some cool mogs
>>580995032kill your product by letting mentally ill subversives make the product for an audience that doesn't exist and even the most brainwashed blizzdrones can't stomach, still refuse to acknowledge what happened because it might prick the tiniest hole in the delusion you call reality and force an admission a revamp and course correction needs to happen for it's own survival, proceeds to advocate for going down with the shipyour hubris is humbling to witness, this is what it must have been like to witness an ancient general lose his battlefield perspective and damn his men to their dooms
>>580995817>rogueshit>funskip
>>580995325well the problem is that retail got fuck all for announcements besides shit we knew was coming + three new paladin races and any armor type tmogbig fucking whoop
>>580989358yeah skyborne are conceptually dumb but is it bait or genuine retardation why people dont know why blizz decided to add them?1. racialswhich are already a balancing nightmare and having two NEW racials to balance would skew the population 2. faction populationhorde in vanilla had one thing going for it besides players who play it cause they actually like the races and lore (a minority) the VAST majority of vanilla horde players need that 0.05% better racial or they would never touch it and thats the case now. secondly if you are playing for aesthetics alliance wins there so now the asian demographic has some reason to larp as a horde elf otherwise the server pop is gonna be like 70/30 alliance horde if not worse
>>580995558everyone I know is actually interested so yeah this is going to be the first time WoW has an actual competitor, but not for memes, for real there's a reason they called it "forever"
>>580995602>if it's not MY fantasy story, it CAN'T be good, ok chuddy?
I will try forever but I won’t pay for elves.
>>580990407>kill classicyou mean kill retail and classic
I'm surprised you retarded, f******, aren't freaking out at the fact that there's no longer any kind of gear type requirement for transmog, meaning clothware is like a priest. Can wear plate now? I figured that you guys totally would be up in arms because all you do is seeth about every f****** minute detail of this game cause you're a baby f*****, r*****, Anna, you were raised on warm milk and butt slaps, you stupid. F******, this game is gonna be sweet. I love all the warcraft forever. I love all the warcraft forever. I love all the warcraft forever. I love all the warcraft forever. I love world the warcraft forever. I love world the warcraft forever. I love world the warcraft forever. I love world the warcraft forever. I love it forever. Will the warcraft forever? I love it world, the warcraft, forever
>>580995558You have schizophrenia, the good thing is that there are meds you can take for that!
>>580996281no you're coping or shitposting, its meant to kill classic
>>580996190holy shit a wild blizzdronehow'd you find 4chan?
>>580996320Please do remind me about this post when retail becomes 2nd hand citizen and you have a psychotic break attack that triggers your schizophrenic hereditary genes
>blizzard actually taking collectathon addicts out back to kill them when retail is shutdownblizzard is redeemed
>>580996258I already did and will only play as them.
CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW
>>580996479>how'd you find 4chan?4chan is filled with blizzdrones like this guy >>580996621 defending and paying for this shit lol
>>580996062How is that a problem? We know when the full TLT reveal is coming. They don't want to spoil the ending of midnight 4 months before the patch comes out. It's not like they announced a delay or something.
>go to ?? on alt>can't get in>do the valeera larp>can't get in>do t11 delve x4 + cracked keystone>can't get in>abandon the quest 5x and receipt>can't get in>fly at mach 15 from coiled isle>bug through door and load in to ??>game crashes>world server down error for an entire day>can't unstucklmao bro fuck this game
>Sorry dudes, retail can't be fixed and The Last Titan will be the final expansion for current retai>After 13.2.7 you can join with other players with our newest game: World of Warcraft Forever which will replace retail and it gets all our love and attention from that moment forward>You can play 13.2.7 for a while before end of service will be announced and retail will become our classic version of the game>we will make the usual classic fresh starts every now and then but for now please enjoy the game as long as you possibly can>And go check out World of Warcraft: Forever, you might like it *wink*
>>580996804Metzen not showing up for the little retail talk had during BLIZZCON speaks volumes.
BLIZZARD IS A BUNCH OF NIGGER RETARDS, FUCK BLIZZARD NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
who do blizzdrones who love retail even come here? do they have a humiliation kink? I don't get it, they could just stay on the official forum hugbox
>>580996804>>580996968All of you trannies always self report when you pretend you want mezten working on forever lol he is such a bag of cucked trash.
we love retail here
>>580997024>metzen is a bag of trash hahahaha I can't believe a retail andy is saying this
So I never reached max level in an MMO before, decided to hit 90 in WoW doing story questing and a few delvesDidnt really pay attention at all...just powered through to get to max and start playing with my friend who has played forever.Question is, he's out for a while and idk what the fuck to do now that I'm max? Should I replay a new toon and actually pay attention to story and shit? Get to some content? This part of MMOs is where I always felt disconnected.
>>580997332Yes you dumb nigger, he literally ruined the last 2 expansions. I know you came from reddit but even your god asmongold shit on metzen.
>>580997372now you can go do max level content to actually learn your class and earn some seasonal rewards
>>580997518>more things that never happened oh boy
i like some of the new visual effects in forever but some zones have a lot of anti soul gas
The more I look at forever news, the more it makes me confused. What exactly they expect people to do after leveling is done? One of the reasons why Retail keeps players subbed is non stop dopamine drip feed, and infinite maze of farming shit like M+ every week.But Forever does not have any of that, at best there is leveling alts for bonus points, but besides that classic wow is too lean to keep dopamine freaks interested past first month or so.And that's not even talking about long term prospects of the game, they are saying they are exploring "year 1 of wow" but they can't be stuck in that timeframe forever.
>>580997675what is "max level content" how does one discover what it is/where it is
>>580997806Keep coping tranny. Asmon will be mad you're not watching his stream you know.
>>580997854Chase items on every boss making raiding molten core forever worth it, I guess.
>>580997854they play retail until a new content drops for forever and vice versa
>>580997848>thinking this looks badretailjunkies are cooked
>>580997916what does your post have anything to do with what i said?
>>580997854they are making new raids with new items and then they are remaking the old raids with new shitthey tricked people with "horizontal progression" memes but people will be chasing the new stuff every season
>>580998036I said some zones, such as dark shore completely blocking the sun and sky. And even that pic is debatable
>>580998203>darkshore is... le dark??? >AHHH SAVE ME GAY CENTAURS!!!
>>580998036not worth the 30% fps hit it's going to give>"horizontal progression" this just means there's going to be a battlepass.
>>580997854Yeah this is a problem I had with Turtle WoW. I got to max level and pretty much immediately stopped playing since it was just raid logging. They need to change how professions work so there's something else to do and level when you've had enough of killing things
They are going to FF11 WoW after the next xpac. You will live to see WoW 2.
Now that racials have been scrambled, will 99% of the horde be Elves and undead?
The fact that you have to spend money to unlock the new race in Forever is already fucking horrible
>>580988702Hopefully retail adds toggles too to be kino again..tlt will be kino again..right?
>every other type of elf>no high elvesit's metzen who is against adding high elves isn't it?
>>580997952Let's say you want to beat the Delve Nemsis on ?? difficulty, you will find out that you are kinda weak right now and don't have enough ilvl yet so now you can go after higher ilvls by doing mythic+, raiding, prey or doing bountiful delves at tier 8 or higher
>>580998268if you're too poor for a higher end 4 or 5k series, you can just turn the graphics down lil gup
>>580998036>Nintendo hire this man!
>>580998398no it's Ion, he's a horde main
>>580998387it means less fuck ugly skelvs than there would be otherwise, so it makes me slightly more likely to hold my nose and play it.
>Forever is going to outsell TLT
>>580998434or maybe we they can focus less on avatar elves and graphics for a 20 year old game and actually make the game good like osrs did.
It's interesting that during the blizzcon stream everyone who was watching was pleased with the news and the discussions was flowing nicely. But once the information got to the non blizzcon watchers, the people who get their news from youtubers, e-celebs and other kind of clickbaits, the discussion quality fell because these people joined the discussion just to shitpost, bait and doom
>>580998431Neat. Sorry I know this is super hand holdy its just MMOs have always alluded me on "content" Any recommendations on something I can/should go check out first as a solo player?
I want to impregnate Nora Mills while she autistically talks about to me about things she finds interesting about WoW.
>>580998036Fog is the artistic bane of WoW and has been for a long time.It makes everything look like shit, wipes out all of the color, dulls all of the lighting.There's a reason so many people like the inky black potion so much, it removes 99% of the shitfog from every zone in retail so you can actually see the art assets for once.Focusing on adding fog to the world in Forever isn't a selling point, it's a grim omen.
>>580998552don't give me this ion shit, he wasn't in charge of the game back in vanilla, tbc, cata, mop when the devs refused to give us helfs
>>580998913Anything before MoP doesn't matter, they insisted on faction identity being important until Pandas
>>580998872All the choices so far outside some of the gameplay tweaks show they don't "get it" so I'm not too interested in it. It might have some fun aspects, and it probably will mog retail, but that's a low bar, it's not going to be wow osrs or anything like that.
>>580998736but they're doing that though? name a gameplay change that is bad. everything they're doing is good. removing wbuff meta, dungeon spam meta, gdkp, making every spec semi-viable, filling in empty parts of the map, new BGs, making crafting much more relevant, etc>>580998872coping indian with a 1060
>>580996621show the proof of actual purchase you coward, otherwise you're just pretending to be a paypig in a way that is not funny but cringe.
>>580999048doesnt matter this problem is unrelated to ionthe old devs, the new devs they all refuse to add helfs.
for holy paladin using double beacon, who are you supposed to usually put your two beacons on?
>>580997952also going after transmogs can also be fun, press shift+p to look at sets and other pieces you want to collect
Umm guys Nerub still exists, please include it in the OP...
>>580999534ideally the most fragile players in your group but sometimes the shaman actually uses his cds unlike the paladin so then you want to beacon him
>People are posting beta code for worlo foreverBros!
>>580996479Get bent classic Andy. Can't wait for you to experience the NEW UNTOLD STORIES only for them to unfold in ways you didn't expect and don't like, and I'll see (You) bitching that they don't align with your exact fantasy tastes and political preferences. Then they'll have to do WoW Forever 2 when the "community" doesn't like that they come up withAfter all this time you still think you do but you don't
>>580999717make noise
>>580999867>cries in gay centaur
>>580989913Absolute truth. They beat around the bush so hard with calling Skyborne high elves. Somebody must have really felt their feet were getting stepped on if they made Alliance high elves.
Reminder that Blizzard hates youThey made your game gay and lame and still you pay for itAbsolute humilation ritualNext they are going to shut down the game and before that they drain all the money you have left for WoW forever which they deeply love and care about
>>580998036>change colourful memorable artstyle to monochrome shade of normies greyTHEY FINALLY LISTENED BROS
>>580999171>purchasing wow related things requires proofI thought wow players bought anything blizzard puts out?
>>580999837There are no beta codes retard
>>581000000
>>581000219
>>581000406>WAOWWWWW
The images show that you can make them white. I wonder how many will actually make a smurf elf instead of just High elf.
>>581000627everyone but contrarians will use pink skin and larp as helf
>>581000627How is this even a question. The exact, down to the number, same amount that currently choose purple elf over high elf
>>581000000wasted digits on this proto starcraft general
>>581000848I think the blue male Elf looks bad. But the blue female Elf with modern hair?... Delicious.
>>581000154wow doesn't matteri hope they do shut down wow, they won't thoughit looks like you're the one who deeply love and cares about wowseems like u will eternally be buthurt, get a grip, get over it, get over yourself
>>581000627>>581000848>>581000923You are wrong. You can make them black and that will be the most popular sky elf.
>>581000000Back in time, with that number, you could have been the god of 4chan 4ever.
It's looking over for retail bros...
this whole fucking thread
>>581000610just say you're poor lil gup, it's okay
if you're truly a wow fan you'd have to be completely mad to not take part in wow 2 desu
>>581001450I will love to play wow 2 and not a shitty vanilla-retail abomination.
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>581001450classic basedboys actively hate world of warcraft.
Be honest, /wowg/, is this enforced on retail?
>>581001436>excessive bloom and fog is GOOD>memorable outlines are BAD>got it, chuddy?
Get in the forever general microsoft employes are posting CODES!!
>>581001436HOLY SHIT
>>581001723It is and the most popular wow streamer got banned for breaking the rules.
>>581001723no not really, you can do whatever you want on mg/wa and name yourself whatever you want. People also openly babble in /s about what kind of weed they're smoking in rp areas.
>>581001782>It was in character for me to be obnoxious
My friend Banana Tits said Warcraft Forever will be bad.
>>580997986raidlogging is boring as fuck and majority of the playerbase is not interested in it.>>580998012I understand the idea behind it, but having Forever as a side bitch game won't work very cleanly since classic addicts would create usual toxic expectations while normies are gone.>>580998153That's the issue though people act like they want "horizontal progression" but if you look at GW2 for example, a lot of players bounce off it because they want constant power creep.Or if you look at XIV, people complain there is "no content" because game doesn't provide them with retail-like dopamine drip.>>580998274A lot of their focus is on the leveling content, like new zones and that camp stuff too, but this type of content will be outdated very quickly, unless they really push towards alt leveling.
>>581001740just say you're poor lilgup
>>581002428Is this an IQ thing? I'm really IQ and I hate the bottom one. Do stupid people like it?
>>581002428top has more soul
>>581002249>unless they really push towards alt leveling.They are adding those legacy points but at the end of the day like you said that's just the same shit. They will add more raids with higher ilvl to keep interest but you have to remember their goal is keep you bouncing between retail and forever during the low season of each game.
>I'm really IQ and
Ok nice. Without doing DF's leveling campaign, my alt did>Forbbiden reach intro 70~75>Embers of Neltharion campaign in Zaralek 75~81 (scales due to niffen endeavor)...and is now on 10.1.7 campaign and will probably continue to unlock Emerald Dream and Dream Wardens faction. Problem is my alt is 81 right now and rest of the DF endgame stuff no longer give xp.
>>581002551>>581002557the bottom isn't what it will like 100% of the time retards it will dynamically change instead of being static like top
Rogue, Shaman, or Mage? Which would I regret the least leveling through this Windy EXP event thing going on.
>>581002708those 3 are literally meta right now
>>581002690You are so retarded bro.
>>581002690so like retail.
>>581002428Top looks way better.Maybe brown people see the bottom image differently? That would explain a lot.
>>581002690bro, they're trying to cope with being brazilians with 2gb vram cards
>>581002779I haven't played in a year, mb. Is Pyro fun/easy to play, or would you recommend ele?
>>581002690Oh so it will only look like a generic ps3 game sometimes?
>>581002428just say you have shit tasteyou don't have to; we know
>>581002975What is pyro? Fire mage? They fucking suck if you're a mage you play arcane and yes I would recommend ele.
I'm excited! This is going to be so much fun! Yay!!!
>>581002851>>581002987>>581002551>>581002557good morning sarsold graphics more soul best robbari
>>581002987these pictures dont look similar doebeit
>>581003184>left side>artistic vision, handcrafted vistas>right side: BROWN, BLOOM AND FOG JUST LIKE MY FAVORITE CAWWADOODY
>>581002428Reminds me of gw2 and other early 2010s games (negative)
>>580988918The problem with posts like this is that it can't bait people who actually understand both playerbases. Classic+fags don't even care about retail enough to mock it anymore.
>>581003184>>581003329old is better because i can't afford to upgrade my 1060 o algo
>>581003184>shitposters are now forced to pretend the old good meme is wrongholy kino what a twist
>>581003380All blizzard did was add late 2000's graphical effects to vanilla zonesyou can run that shit on a 750
ok so hear me out, back when i played classic i swear i saw a small house near a river that had either arthas or thrall in it or someone really significant to the lore, which felt completely off. was i just dreaming?
>>581003184Anon, Indians generally worship higher tech. I'm pretty sure white people and maybe the japanese are the only ones who are evolved enough to distinguish graffix from taste.
>>581003184>wtf why is this anti soul gas making duskwood and dustwallow creepy and forboding??>wtf why did they remove the soul gas obscuring ironforge mountain and nordrassil?retailcucks are chopped
>>581003493
>years between wc3 and vanilla*Gulp* We might be forced to face the quilboar at the height of their power, will we even survive???
>>581003184>left soulless>right sovl
>>581003389xDDD the fucking irony of these tranny retoilet beasts
>>581003184I dont want to be able to see blackrock mountain from northshire.
i like the new fog and lightningand watercant wait to see the weather in the beta on thursday
>>581003652old badnew goodsimple as
>>580994468>kills private servers>accidentally shoots classic in the head>gives retoilet suicidal depressionWhat did Blizzard mean by this?
>>581003184>old graphics more soulYes. Yes you fucking retards. Yes x 100.It is the very essence of soul. Modern graphic design homogenizing shit with endless fog and bloom filters is, literally, what prompted the entire "soul" meme. It's people wanting colorful blocky defined shapes again because that's comfortable to look at compared to a homogenous grey-brown-yellow smudge from REALISTIC FOG You stupid motherfuckers think you do but you don't!!!
>>581003597i've been trying to google it and i'm not really finding anything, it feels so weird. i think it was in the plaguelands or tirisfal glades or something
>Euros always bragging about being better wow players>Lose in the RWF>Lose in the MDI>Lose in the AWC
>>581003584These changes are already all in retail, why would a retail enjoyer say they are bad? Retard.
>>581003847You're not going to find anything because that wasn't a thing anon.>>581003903>they can't win the forever rwf because of reset timing*WHEEZE*
>didnt move such during blizzcon>stand up>shit smell emanates from below me
>>581003979>You're not going to find anything because that wasn't a thing anon.ah fuck. i'd like to find that house though, was just one of those tiny one room things next to a river, i swear there was someone in there hiding out
>>581003903>lose rwf >clear it 10 hours faster >lose What did Juan mean by this
>>581003964no they are not lol
>>581004136Cute!
I don't know what's worse Metzen working on forever or Hepler working on d5.
I’m happy enough to have just gotten undead and Darkspear paladins, these other matters are beneath my notice.
>>581003964the changes are only for forever rendering engine (for now)
>>581003979https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=1855/tirion-fordringyep this was the exact guy, had the name wrong. i wasn't dreaming.
>>581003964sir is just lying nowits completely different lightning/fog/water compared to reail
>>581004448Darkspear paladin is so weird but I know why they picked darkspear.>>581004475Oh yeah it was him.
>>581003493Tirion Fordring
Hey forever trannies you can leave now because hots its backhttps://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24306095/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-september-14-2026
I accidentally read a thread on the blizz forums.It dealt me severe mental damage being reminded how disgusting that place and its posters are. Why are they such bootlickers?
>>581003184>everything is fogNo thank you
hehe
>>581004973>I'M BUYING THE SMURF ELVES>WE ARE GOING HOME BROS!Yeah ok like this place is any different.
Lets get back on topic - the REAL game: Midnight.So uh.... what about that, uh... legendary dagger, I guess.
>>581005046t. 1070dont worr
imagine if we got ANY vulpera news
>>581005203nobody gaf about sneednight or the last sneed
>>581004725a minute late, but thanks
>>581005052They said the same thing about classic and then added both at the first opportunity.
>>581005203I'm gonna cum on Xally's toes
>>581004686>Multiple temple cities dedicated to gods>deeply spiritual and ritualistic culture, worship more fervently then nearly any other race>Darkspear recently reconnected with multiple loa in ther heritage quest and Vol’jin is hinted to be reincarnating as a loaHot take, trolls probably have more reason to be paladins than dwarves do
>>581005095No it's more like they gang up on any post criticizing blizzard at all.>Actually blizzard doing bad thing is a good thing and you are an idiot. Please let me swallow your cum daddy blizzard. Please double the price you deserve it!The home posting stuff is actually the higher quality posts there
>>581005280are we looking forward to killing her forever?
>>581005246>t. 1070How did you know lol
>>581005363No they are probably not going to add tokens and boost but this just confirm they will sell the updates.>>581005459>trolls probably have more reason to be paladins than dwarves doI don't think that's a hot take for lorefags, dwarf paladin make no sense they are suppose to be followers of the titans not the light but like every other alliance race they got completely swallowed by the humans.
>>581004973Sounds like you could've screenshotted some high quality cringe instead of posting it
>>581005616because if you think the new fog/lighting/water effects look bad, it's because you're poor and can't run it
>>581005509>No it's more like they gang up on any post criticizing blizzard at all.right now people itt are ganging up on any post criticizing the price tag of the sky elves and the people shitting on the new weather.
>>581005665They absolutely will, and they'll use the same "It's to fight bots!!!" excuse that they have spouted for years.
>>581005850It's like IRL, you don't have fucking fog everywhere even if it looks epic. Put fog where you need to (water, humidity), not in the middle of Orgrimmar desert.Rules of cool and aesthetic (I invented this one) are not based
>>581005847Lol based
>my sense of humour is that I think the n word is funny
>>581006391It is.t. Every brotha comedian ever.
>>581005864Nah it's all about the tone. This place is far more honest in it's shitflinging.The tone you get on blizz forums is uncanny. Like they are posting hoping that a blue name is going to read their post and descend from on high to pat them on the head for being a good boy.The shitposting here isn't done to receive a pat on the back from some other faggot
>>581006391welcome to /pol/, smartest people
>>581005850No it's because it looks bad because it homogenizes the shapes and colors into a big stupid millennial grey smudge. I want muh cartoony outlines and bright colors>hurr durr make my fantasy world dreary and depressing just like irl>the closer our FANTASY is to IRL, the betterHow about no
>>581006391It'll stop being funny when people stop freaking out over it.
>>581006806That's just crazy, people here love the blizzard shit as much as the forumfags and they are going to defend it.
>>581006882This. Fantasy settings are very colorful minus the "dark evil tower" and even here, you have bright green/purple/blue/red.I would also add that this stems from a misconception about history, where people think that ancient peoples erected white and gray statues or painted white and gray murals, or that people in the Middle Ages lived in a gray world, when in fact EVERYTHING has always been incredibly colorful throughout human history; it’s even a sign of wealth, power, and good health.It's only very recently, since capitalist shit has taken over, that everything has been gray, white, or black and sad.
Doing sloppa requests, doing the ones i like only. Shoot.
>>581007693Maybe you should go hang out in the blizz forums for a while.Or maybe that's where you came from.It's not about saying pro/anti blizz shit, it's about why and how you are saying it.If you think this place is anywhere near on the same level as groupthink as them you are nuts
>>581007863Flushed well endowed high elf priestess bending down in front of you, the moment she catches you checking out her massive cleavage
>>581007970I'm not like I said just look at the way people are pretending this weather shit looks good and represent the spirit of vanilla.
>>581007863Sky elves SEXO
>>581007863Femworg in bikini
>>581007863Busty femvulp in human village, smiling, wearing a peasant dress and carrying a basket of bread
I think Talebound looks fun. And, yes, I did get this slow thread with the alive Forever general.
>>581007863A Skyborne oneshotting Xally while TLT gets thrown in a garbage bin in the background.
ounce everyone is in game and the smog caused by their burning gpu's tanks their fps to sub 60 everyone will come out and say it's shit, shit's gonna be funny as fuck
>>581007863White mane in a V kini, oiled up
red futa draenei wife
Ayo nigga, we be da Sky Elf Niggas n shiet, we always been up here in da sky nibba, you just never looked up :^)
>>581006391its about the reaction not the word itself
If Blizzard had good writters they would bring back old villains to team up against Xal. Imagine Azshara coming back to shank Xal.
>>581010253Lasan Skyhorn was right!
I wanted to play pally again, but arcane is actually fucking bussin it's so nice
>resto druid gets played at mdi>suddenly all these druids with 19s timed
>have crippling name autism for my characters>now will have to think of a first and SECOND nameits over
>>581010445i doubt it
>>581011296George Floyd
Holly totally confirmed tinker in TLT
>>581011296John Warcraft
>>581011410Ion confirmed tinkerer with the tlt preview
>>581010507I'm still waiting for the Azshara + Denathrius team up
>>581011296Kevdruid Kevdruid
>>581011296but that's for rp servers anon... wait a minute... are you a tranny?
>>581011593What did he say?
for some reason I have 3 wow accounts and can't remember which one I used, are cosmetics and stuff shared on all of them? like my cataclysm collector edition stuff will be available regardless of which one I use?
>>581011826He presented a 30 second video of dragonblight and suddenly a gigantic robot (bigger than wyrmrest temple) appear on the screen and charged mah lazor at the camera tinker hype
>>581011805its for all game types in forever retard, assumedly to allow players to use the same name as secondary names can be optionally hidden
>>581011670Hawt
>>581012128are you sure? one of the streamers at blizzcon said it was rp servers only. I think it was an asian guy.
why are wow players like this?
>>581011974just log in and see?
member when me and me mum bought wowcraftand gw1 hehe
>>581012287Cute and well-shaped feet are a good predictor of health and fertility.
>>581012287Wasted foot if they can't be paladin
>>581012287why is this kinda hot
>https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-sword-new-paladin-quests-bonus-rolls-blizzard-interview-with-icy-veins-382874>"Don't read too much into Ion saying we need to help Azeroth "one last time".">"Pls don't quit, we still need your money!"if you buy tlt you're a fucking cuck
>>581012301I am asking because I don't want to download 150gb to check anon
>>581013117porn addiction
>>581013231...because from now on, it's not Azeroth, it's titan/lightforged Xal'atath! And we'll be helping her for the next 20 years, yay!
>>581013231Damn they shot down the shitposting real fast>Never say never for the Forever transmog acquisition in Retail.Oh no bros...
>>581013861wouldn't porn addiction make it harder to be aroused by a simple picture of a foot
>>581013828I meant the website. Now that I think about it I don't know if you can still see your characters when you select a certain service on the website
>>581014098according to 4chan you're addicted to porn if you have any kind of attraction to the female body.
cant wait to play wow again and rememeber why I hate you faggots
SHREK
>>580990524im blue badabadi dabadu!
>>581013231>Don't read too much into Ion saying we need to help Azeroth "one last timeToo late, everybody (me) thinks the Last Titan as the Last Expansion
>>581014191ok I ended up downloading the 150gb>photosensitive warning>screen reading prompt>social contractwtf is this game now
>>581014098The more deeper into porn addiction (gooning, edging, etc.), the more broken you are: tummy, feet, non-nude, armpit, hait, tongue, tummy, makeup, shoes, etc., everything is porn
>>581014827literally all those things are perfectly normal and healthy to be attracted to
>>581014812Just click accept and don't give a fuck, I still send slurs to my bnet friends and they send slurs to me (and none of us got a seizure because of it).
>>581014812>>photosensitive warninguseful>>screen reading promptsemi-useless>>social contractretarded and dangerous, they just don't want to be responsible of their game. Do like Ironman, says yes and then do what you want.
>>581014812your account has been temporarily banned for not being a fren
Shitposting aside, how is Retail even supposed to recover? Everyone, including Holly and Ion, thinks Forever is basically the second coming of Jesus. Classic was already more popular with streamers and their fans, but now there is no competition at all. Retail feels like a game that's going to stagnate and lose even more players, with no chance of recovery. In a couple of years, it'll end up like RS3: a retirement home for whales.
>/wowfg/ is getting hundreds of postsIt's not fair, wowsisters. Retail is still the best Blizzard game, right?
The KINO gas stays on chuddie
>>581014994Yes of course.>War is peace>Freedom is slavery>Ignorance is strength>Jerkingoff 8 hours during the night to feet is healthy
>>581015125It's funny you call it a retirement home because that's literally what forever is: a retirement home for mentally ill classic boomers so they can keep milking them forever. Think the 30 dollar elves are a one time thing? LMFAO.
honestly this shit is hilarious lmao the discord trannies are not even trying to hide it
>>581015125The Last Titan will save us all.
>>581015125retail could stop its death spiral literally any time it wants but it needs to reflect on, and by that i mean fire, their incompetencewrite a decent story with decent charactersprioritize decent raids. if that means allowing addons on mythic so be itdon't assrape your class design to appease casuals who play simple classes as well as they play well-made ones
>>581015125>581015125>Shitposting aside, how is Retail even supposed to recoverwho cares, its shit lolplay with some gay stuffed dragons or something lmao
>>581015224What do they even talk about? The beta isn't out yet lmao
>>581014812All you have to do is not say nigger. It's not hard.
>>581015224They are positively raided by ff14 fanboys and /v/ tourists. our general is pure.
>>581015125It's notthis is blizzard's attempt at soft launching wow 2
>Forever is more console friendly than retailThey're going to win the end...
>>581015224whoa.... a real wowkiller.....
>>581015410/wpsg/ posters raiding the thread trying to doom/v/ posters raiding the thread trying to doom/pol/browns arguing over who is more whitethe usual things you see in any fast thread
>>581015589Imagine having a console Andy in your dungeon group pulling everything because he rotates his camera and snail pace and has to turn before walking. Grim.
>>581015701>/pol/browns arguing over who is more whitesky elves are not white
>>581015317No, Ion and Holly want Forever to be the starting point for new players; that's why they're adding all these graphical improvements and qol. It's something they intend to iterate on>Think the 30 dollar elves are a one time thing?No, but paying for a race while you get the rest of the content for free is more consumer friendly.
i dont feel like wowing anymroe
Guys I found my old wallpaper
https://youtu.be/czKj2TAPays
Our game is still superior, sisters. We're going to get a new island in 12.2 and a brand new raid designed for 2 guilds. Oh, a ton of reskinned mounts and mogs. I can't wait.
>>581015367It literally can't. Many think Retail is beyond saving at this point, and it seems like Ion and Holly now feel the same way.
>>581015487>this is blizzard's attempt at soft launching wow 2they need 3 factions to make the game an actual fun mmo. theyll never understand that tho
Serious question: Would you be upset if retail was reset after The Last Titan? You get to keep your collectibles, but the chance of getting them are removed (until the content gets Remix'd).I want a reset if it means that megaservers and better lighting are added to the game.
Look, not a single Retail player gives a shit about WoWforecever. That means only Classic WoW players care. And they are what?50k? 100k? lol. Blizzard didn't make this game for us (Retail) or for the 100k classicplayers. They did it for the "new player here" people, the "I want your children to play WoW" people, the "don't worry kiddo, even at your age it's safe here, come and consume now" people.
>will be able to wear the forsaken warfront mail set aka beat set in the game on any armor type soonMy undead paladin is gonna be so cool holy shit
>>581016159We already have megaservers. Every realm can play with every realm in a given region. Forever getting this isn't new, like at all.
>>581016159Retail doesn't need the megaserver because all the servers are connected.
>>581016159What do you mean by reset exactly? It's not happening anyways
The final nail in the retail coffin will come later this week, when they announce mop characters transfering to retail.
>>581016191I have the plate pvp set from that seasonmy forsaken paladin will look even cooler than yours
>>581016191Oh shit you reminded me of the forsaken cloth warfront set. I'm gonna edgelord so hard.
>>581016315>>581016330Aren't work orders the only thing tied to servers?>>581016367All old content removed from the game. The game starts all over again. All players revert to level 1.
>>581016159Depends the reset for me. Soft reset like "it's been 50 years since our goddess left and a lot of thing changed", I'm in.If it's hard reset like "we need to go back in the past or die in the present, your choice" and deleting our progress, I'm out.
>>581016187youre coping frenevery wow player i personally know (8dudes 40->53yo) is switching to classic forever
>>581016518I doubt they would do anything like that since they are actively working on making all reps account wide
>>581016432that's ok, everyone is moving to Forever anyway
>geriatrics are moving to classic reharsh number 83And water is wet.
>>581016585>lol all my friends are moving to the classic servers its over for retail!time is a flat circle "fren"
>>581016585Those people weren't playing the actual retail endgame anyways. Do they even clear heroic raid each season? Do any keys above 12? Probably not. Forever is exactly for those guys and they're welcome to leave.
i dont have friends so im just gonna be playing retail
>Everyone's moving to Forever except for third world shitskins farming gold for tokens, soccer moms with 2000 store mounts and boosting niggers.
>>581016789well your mom is a fat circle lol
>>581016159Only reset I'm willing to accept is us getting hit by a Xally blast wave in the worldsoul chamber and then waking up on the floor in Ny'alotha with N'zoth telling us we're sleepy little retards.
>>581016905Yeah i will give forever a go but i'm too old to make whimsical friendship in mmos as if it was 2005
retailkek wellness check
>>580999534the squishy classes or whoever has lowest HP. But I change dynamically who they go on based on whos the most retarded, any smart Holy Paladin would.
>broo we're making WoW Forever horizontal>check out these super epic rare powerful items we put on the bosses lmaoyou can not be fucking serious
>>581017212Yeah at some point it's gonna reach a point of dungeon and raid saturation which will generate the ultimate BiS for certain classes, and they'll need to introduce itemlevel powercreep or nerf old gear.
>>581017212I don't understand how they're going to keep people interested past the 2nd raid tier.
>>581017056comparing the production quality of this fight with ula'tek is fucking embarrassing and BFA wasn't even a good expansion
>p-please dont move to Forever, i need your rwf twitch shekels ...
>>581017441The mythic secret phase was ass but goddamn the raid had such good vibes I'm willing to forgive them for it.
>They've set up a lot of pieces in the story, and they're gonna start knocking them down. It's going to be full action going forward.Like what? What piece of story or new plot we have since the TWW?
>already had my finger hovering over the uninstall and unsub button weeks before BlizzconForever has caused me to rethink. Maybe I will actually get to play with the people on my friends list in Forever, instead of having each person doing some individual activity in some random instance somewhere.>BUT I NEED TO FARM FOR MY 2,000th MOUNT, I DONT HAVE TIME TO PLAY THE GAME WITH YOU
>>581001436i kneel to the dwarf chads for blanketing azeroth in thick smog
>>581017586Xally finally reaching the worldsoul and activating titan devices all over Azeroth to eradicate all life. The cinematic had a robot styled and sized like the entirety of Ulduar just got up and started walking. And then there's Illidan who probably tamed Sargeras and is going to come in to help, since Sarg is a titan.
>>581017515This guy has so much brain rot it's crazy. Doesn't want to play WoW Forever because it's too easy and simple. Doesn't want to actually raid in retail because by the time he gets to play his character the race is over and it's too easy. Doesn't want to push M+ because he would rather just blast Fellowship for 2 weeks every few months. I can't even imagine being this miserable. He has to try so hard to convince himself he still likes retail WoW.
STOP TALKING ABOUT WOW FOREVER
>Activate my account that's been frozen since 2016 >Use the gold to buy a wow token >Check in for WoW:Forever beta >I am in K I N O IS BACK ON THE MENU FELLAS
>>581018234POST MORE ELF WOMEN
>>581018142he doesn't even play wow
>They have thought about Forsaken Paladins for a while. 12.2 seemed like the perfect time with the battle of the Void versus Light.So, the Light is still relevant in 12.2
>>581018142he reminds me of an old friend I had. They even look the same, as well as both being terminally miserable. They have this completely 100% fake mask they put on to make it seem like they aren't, it's so obvious, the guy I knew was worse at masking though.
>>581018726Yes. Light be with you.
>>581018726Why wouldn't it be? Hell it's relevant right now in the post raid quest line.
>>581018593
>>581018682That's what I said. He constantly glazes how WoW has the best combat but doesn't even play it and just makes excuse after excuse. It's sad.
>>581018913What great big ears you have, grandma!
Will WoW finally a real economy all other MMOs and many live-service games have? Instead of everything being soulbound.
What're your telltale signs of a fotm reroller?>uses anniversary set or diablo anniversary set recolor
>>581018837The Light didn't save Zul'jan...
>>581018726>the battle of the Void versus Light.That was 12.0 tho They already missed the boat on adding paladins. And in any case they should've just pulled the cord and added them to all races anyway>CALLING ALL WARRIORS OF THE LIGHT>suddenly darkspear paladins, worgen paladins, etc. riding from their various lands to aid the sunwellwould've been kino. but the opportunity passed imo
>>581018142>>581018682>>581018782>>581018954cope. they literally design your game with him in mind. you're his puppet
>>581019104Mortals hate elves and the Sunwell. Nobody came to help them. The trolls that live next door and would get fucking blown up had to be convinced to move their asses. With the worldsoul in jeopardy everyone is concerned.
>>581018913The perfect elf
>>581019096Zuljan was a heckin enlighten atheist and that's why he died
thinking about rerolling to fire mage so i stop getting called a fotm reroller.
>Calibration Chamber>You should be able to reset your cooldowns.>They are looking at adding temporary raid buffs and consumables.>They want to support different variations and layouts of enemies to test clustered, single target, or spread cleave damage profiles.>It's made just to test things.Why aren't you talking about this revolution?
>>581019523Because I like testing shit on dungeons or raids.
>>581019523another "feature" for maze / parse trannies
Did blizzard give away starcraft 1 at some point? i have it on my account but don't remember buying it
>>581019523Because I can sim that in raidbots without wasting my time on dummies.
>>581019969its for testing talents/rotations kupo!using a program wont improve your gameplay kupo.
>>581020064not to mention you can use it to build muscle memory without griefing people
>still haven't gotten even one piece of tier to complete 4setnext week I can finally poosh....
Should I be worried about all I did in Retail the last 15 years due to Forever?
>>581011974>>581014812if anyone is curious, seems like achievements, pets, transmog are all account bound, so if you have 2 or more accounts on the same battle.net they all have access to it
>>581019523Because we're all going to be pressing frostbolt again and again on forever
>>581020358don't you have a containment thread to post in?
>>581020358it does matter anywayif the game shuts down todaywhat happens?nothing lol
>>581011378dumb nigger
>>581020426I am sorry, isn't this the Retail thread? what..?
>>581019523I mean all we wanted was an actual single target dummy in silvermoon
>>581019523GW2 has had this for over 10 years.
>>581020529You wouldn't know it by reading the thread that's for sureWhatever it's just >>581015636 pic related. Let it have its hype season, who GAF. Gonna die like the rest
>>581020561and you got something way better
>>581009554>Damn it, Uther. As your future Queen I order you to call me by my proper pronouns
I hope the legendary dagger is ludicrously OP and also a total gamble with zero bad luck protection this time. Would be kino.
>>581020358no, Retail is forever WoW
>>581021229you're going to trap xalnath in the dagger
>>581017436realistically you can do like 5-6 tier sets centered around different builds before you NEED to add gear that's stronger by default. the question is whether they can actually do it or not
Uhhh guys? New 13.0 leak just dropped.
>>581003692See that mountain? You can climb it
uhhhh
>>581021336>EVERYONE gets to have a pocket xally nowwhy is shadow priest not allowed to do anything but be raped?
>>581021263okay Emily
>>581021384hot
>>581021336We're going to trap her evil void magic while she becomes the new happy light world soul. Just like Sylvanas' personality was changed by Frostmourne splitting her soul.
>>581021503what do you mean? all the other cuck casters get the priest sloppy seconds
>>581021550>>581021565Making it a near-1:1 copy of the Dagger is dumb. Should've been a staff with more of a reference to the dagger or something.
A stick with the dagger taped to the top. For hunters and warriors.
>>581021743I think it's still the same dagger, that's why. Xally carries it around, she used it to tear L'ura out of Alleria actually.
heh... trap this
Post pandas
>>581022151>level 70NUH-UH, NOT IN MY FOREVER
Why couldn't Holly Longdale be one of those old out of touch grannies who got cancer before she could ruin more shit by being out of touch, like the youtube chick
>>581022189
>>581022189https://files.catbox.moe/ibu8ku.webm
>>581022151>boring stat sticksWhy do people get so excited about this shit? Not that retail is any better but gear in wow is omega level boring.
>>581022352What do you mean? She literally pulled the plug on the Worldsoul Saga line of games and is saving WoW with Classic+. That's legitimately competent course correction and a rare display of C-suite long term intelligence..
>>581022524WoW forever is never gonna get the new players Holly thinks the IP needs, especially when it's still pandering to the 40+ year old balding millennials and gen X.Holly should start pushing Warcraft to appeal to Zoomers before it's too late to capitalize on their nostalgia in 10 years when they become the main paying demographic of games
>>581022537imagine no balls to post cub lili properly
>mfw im pogging out
Why couldn't Nora Mills be my wife
Unironically speaking, how do I become a better tank? Is it simply stfu and queue all day?
wowers in general keep winning
>>581022680Younger gamers prefer pick up and ready to play games. Stuff that's simple to get into and then takes time to master, like shooters. WoW has a steep learning curve, too steep for gen A. I'm an older gen Z and got into it but I'm not a normal case, most of my friends struggled trying to get into WoW even with me holding their hands.What I noticed is that they all preferred classic to retail. And that's what Forever is aiming for I think. They have the data and they're making use of it for sure.
>>581023104yea pretty much
>>581023104Depends what you're struggling with. Everything can be solved with just "git gud" except for routes. You'll never see other peoples' routes because you're the only tank and you're meant to lead the party. You gotta research them online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DghGagr3udAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8uAd6Z4WpAThese are better campaigns than what they gave us!
>>581023189The data also says we apparently need more Elves. So I'm not inclined to trust what ever data Holly's looking at.
>>581022680If someone were to start WoW, they will be forwarded to Forever instead of Retail.
>>5810231894chan keep saying zoomies love classic but they fucking don't, they watch streamers.
>>581023168You can tell WoW wonnered when the only shitflinging is people trying to say their WoW is the best one
>>581023104Top three things I see people do wrong: 1. After a certain key level mobs are going to swing at you for twelve trillion damage and tankbusters are going to do 200% of your max hp. You need to get used to going into pulls with mitigation already rolling and actually respect damage moments. You're not going to really respect packs until one makes you eat shit but afterwords you just have to know you needed to have mitigation up multiple globals ago. 2. Your job is to both set the pace and control retards. You have to assume your group is a bunch of retards until proven otherwise. It's well enough that you're doing "the correct route with the correct pulls" but if you can't be sure that some ranged dps is fuckoff land isn't going to body pull then you need to be prepared for it. I cannot tell you how many wipes or packs ending up taking 80% longer than they need to because some retard dps did a stupid thing but the tank just couldn't be assed to press taunt and avoid 3-4 other people dying. 3. Look up routes and know what is deadly to yourself and to the group. See so many tanks underpull for half the dungeon and then decide to go straight into demonic three lieutenant pulls nobody on earth ever does.
>Warcraft has reputation as unc shit>Get the chance to reinvent the wheel and make something appealing to younger generations and get new blood in.>double down on unc shit.If I was an investor I'd be pissed with Holly tbqh
>>581023745That's true. None of the friends I introduced to the game stayed. Only one turboautist survived who I play with to this day, but we're on retail and only sometimes deviate to classic for shit like HC or SoD.
https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/the-venomous-abyss-raid-tuning-september-15-2349528ulanerfs
>>581023415I'm queueing Heroics right now. It's good practice imo. I guess what I struggle with most right now is knowing the dungeons. I know maybe 1 or 2 right now. All of Midnight is pretty much new territory for me.>>581023892I hope I can get better at these 3 things soon.
>>581023912why change their niche and risk losing their audience?
>>581023912Zoomers don't even play games
>>581024212zoomers love gacha and friendslopzoomer don't like spending 60 hours lvling
>>581024037>will have 4 rerolls tomorrowhahah I winned
>>581024124Because that audience isn't going to last forever despite what the box says.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-venomous-abyss-raid-tuning-september-15/2349528/1Finally everyone else can get CE
>>581024339their audience is currently late 20s into 50 year oldsthats a lot of people kupo desu
>>581024304They love watching friendslop. Gacha is mostly an asian thing.
>>581024305you kinda lossed because you can only use 1 coin per week>>581024367can anyone get aotc now?
>>581024420sex with brown woman
>>581022537is that snowsaku or the other one
>>581024420Overwatch was the only game Blizzard made that actually managed to get a foot in the door with zoomers. And they proceeded to screw it all up.Should take more lessons from early OW and less lessons from 2004 wow
>>581024715bruhoverwatch has 90k daily players on steamwho knows how much on b.net and consolesit literally won
>>581024840People really don't know how much ow was able to recover after the original fiasco.
>watch video on gold making via blacksmithing>realize the prices in his video are wildly different than what the normal stable prices for these items are>he reset the market for one day just to make a gold making guide videofuck you
>>581024715Diablo (1 2 3 I 4 5) is the only non zoomer game
>>581024710snowskau, ye.
>>581024367Guess enough of us plebs killed mythic Scissorak this week. I think Twin Fangs was still killable for us mortals but less kicks is definitely gonna help.
>Astalor is not going to die
>>581025897And that's a good thing!
>>581025897>only likeable male character isnt killed instantlythank you horny femoids
>>581025897Really hoping they don't ruin him further down the line. He looks like he could be shipped with nu-Kael if he somehow left the Shadowlands.
>>581026150I don't think he is going to be relevant after midnight but they are doing this to prove the power of anguish is evil or something and he will drop the research.
Opinions?
>>581026150they should make them boyfriends
>>581026292cant wait to play some new classicesque contenti quit classic so fast because nothing was new to me
>>581026254I hope we get an anguish spec for mage or ranged DK or something. Definitely shouldn't bury the concept because it's cool.>>581026292Very quick raid launch for a "chill out and explore" type game. You can clear it any time, sure, but people will feel pressed to powerlevel and gear up in just 1 month.
>>581026292>first major update in spring>based on the retail roadmap its going to be low season in springWell I was right
>>5810262922 cakes!
>>581026486>Very quick raid launch for a "chill out and explore" type game.A month of no raids it's a lot especially when you consider they are fixing the lvling experience with new zones and quests and lets be real you don't even need dungeon gear to run the classic raids.
>>581026292>posting the roadmap that's missing Hardcore in that gap
new TLT leaks
>>581026254>Astalor! Stop researching anguish! It's evil and disgusting>Awwww, of course you can keep researching the Void here in Silvermoon Umbric :)^D
>>581026851Yes chuddy the void is good!
>>581026851Entropy and chaos are good o algo
>>581026630They said they're upgrading the old raids and that we can expect the new ones to reflect the changes. While we haven't seen anything yet I wonder if Aggrend is gonna do the SoD thing with heat levels or whatever for sweats like me.
>>581027279There is no way that's going to happen, sod was insane like the sunken temple bosses had more hp than gruul and magtheridon
>legion and bfa reputations becoming warband-wide in 12.1.5Thank god. I won't need an alt just to hold all my Legion rep tokens anymore.
>Gay guys ERPing as straight couple I mean i kind of get it... but why? you're a homo. Male characters/ERP is so much better? men do the 'wife' part so much better on top of being more sexually appealing? what even is the point to doing that? is it internalized homophobia or what?
>>581027524I ERP with a clanker. What does that make me?>inb4 loser
>>581027498everyone already got the paragon stuff in remix anyways
>>581027524i erp with Him.
>>581027524I would ask what this has to do with World of Warcraft, but then I remember this is what retail WoW is now
>>581027694I have all the rep from Legion actual. I just hate keeping Highmountain Tribe rep tokens for alts for the war harness because Blizz still hasn't turned that into a toy for some reason.
>>58102752499% of erp is out right gay or prison gay(1% is if its actually an XX female). Its sexting with men and helping them masturbate. No amount of cope can change this irrefutable fact.
>>581027878ERP was 2004 in goonshire btw it was the seed of evil.
>>581027878>Implying I won't be playing forever to groom a cute girl
Literally who asked for this?
Didn't Blizzard used to slash the XP needed to reach max level after an expansion had been out for a while, before warbands and the XP bonus?
>>581028215yes they still do it, 70- 80 got slashed at the end of tww
>>581028215they still do
>>581028215They increased XP gains from quests this time around. Especially delve quests.
>>581028215with how fast it is to level nowadays do you even need it anymore
>>581028215>>581028383they still do but not until the last patch
>>581027878>I would ask what this has to do with World of WarcraftYou should check the genre of the game you're playing before making idiotic comments such as these again. Ever wondered what the 'RP' stands for in MMORPG? Always been the case since 2004. You don't understand the game you're playing, but not surprising coming from neurotypical retards like you invading autist spaces.
>>581028383I was asking, not complaining. I couldn't remember.
you now remember this fuckin thing
>>581028845oh n-
>>581029182Titanforged by the makers themselves to take huge draenei shafts in her throat
>>581028845
>>581029182Well, if you insist...*unzips*
>>581029314>Titanforged by the makers themselvesWrong! The goblins are azerothian natives.
12+ hour thread Forever is the fastest moving thread on wowg. but someone how the resident retail jeets here think its all fake and retail is winning
>>581029395>Naturally evolved to be at the right height and throat depth to swallow draenei cock
>>581029714You know anon the draenei are not titanic creations they are natives of another planet.
>Communist polls on changes So Forever is gonna be controled by asmon streamer cliches
if i buy the thing do i also get these pets on retail?
>Forever got undead paladins before us>Forever got belf druid before us>Forever will get ogres before usWe're literally second class citizens now ...
>>581030081maaaaaybe
>>580997854people don't stick around much longer in retail too. After two weeks of a patch it's a ghost town.
When Forever was first revealed at Blizzcon, did anyone else interpret the features they were touting as indictments of retail?
>get 3400>no cheevo>is not out till .5when the fuck are they releasing .5?
>>581030165>ogresWould just be another sub 3% played race anyway.
>>581030765yeah, it felt like they are now free to do more interesting and innovative things without being held down by the structure of retail.Ion seemed WAY more excited for Forever than TLT
>>581029686Imagine how slow it would be if we stopped talking about Forever.
>>581030983No, I mean live on stage. It was like they were listing off indictments during the arraignment for retail's crimes.
I'm going to be a Sky Elf Druid
world core could've been much bigger
>MASSIVE ULATEK NERFS>look inside>LFR and mythic only
>>580997854They said every max level class has a distinct, deeply personal long pursuit quest with deep narrative immersion and server wide collaboration with Camp Sites and new 60 professions stuff and Meta Events, secret hunting, jumping puzzles, dungeons opening up secret paths, and collecting prestigious stuff.
>>581030765 When you can design a game without a bitch complaining about no flying or covenants
>>581030975I never understood this argument, so what if not many people play them? it adds to the world.Only 1.8% play goblin, I wouldn't want to remove femgobbos
>>581030165>Forever will get ogres
>>581031307Stone Venom damage reduced on all difficulties.Putrid Membrane duration reduced to 30 seconds on Mythic difficulty (was 1 hour).The number of Blightscale Spawn summoned from Serpent’s Call reduced to 8 per wave during Stage 1 on Mythic difficulty (was 13).The number of Blightscale Spawn reduced to 12 per side during Stage 2 on Mythic difficulty (was 14).The number of eggs dropped by Serpent’s Call during the intermission reduced to 8 on Mythic difficulty (was 14).This is massive, they literally removed the putrid membrane.
>>581031309that seems way more fun than mythic plus :(
foever is fixing the expansion mistake
>>581031356Blizzard has to answer to Microsoft now. You can't justify a bunch of dev time just on sovl now
I think Ion was just sick of having to deal with the Retail WoW councill when making his troll raids and having to check on them if the NPC they added had LGBT representation and every class just being some bucket that rolls a bunch of dice when you press a key.
>>581031656what a terrible fucking post lol
>>581031656I understand the funny shitposting and everything but what's the point of mentioning ion? Why do you guys think he is in charge of forever? Don't you know who Fatgrendis?
>>581031562>You can't justify a bunch of dev time just on sovl nowthey just announced Forever which runs exclusively on sovl
Ion wants WoW to have RPG aspects (see covenants) but retail people just want e-sports shit now
what do you think of the new race
>>581031309As exciting as all those things sound, they are kinda one and done scenarios. Especially when it comes to stuff like "secret paths". They are secret until you discover them, and from that point forward it is a value equation of is it worth the effort for the reward at the end?
>>581031784he weirdly ran the presentation during Blizzcon, is doing interviews about it and was notable way more animated and excited when talking about it.It's fair to say most people think he is working on it
>>581031861Microsoft* wants an influence vector to promote capitalist free trade zones in place of nations which are international*
>>581032009where can I see those interviews?
>>581024489I get to roll both bosses each week for their entire loot table 8)
>>581032075https://www.warcrafttavern.com/forever/news/ion-holly-interview-blizzcon-2026/
>>581031970They said they will add new stuff in forever like OSRS gets it. It's not like retail.
>>581032349>first question is literally retail and last titanmeh
>advertise beta as level 30>backtrack>n-no actually its only going to be level 20 at launch we meant level 30 LATERthis does not bode well
>>581030765I think WoWF is a beta test playground for Retail>>581030504I'm shocked how
>>581032443oh okay never mind then, just disregard the Forever talk.
>>581032452solevel 30gotcha
>>581032524its literal cope to be honest the season last way more especially at the end when people start hard pushing for the rewards
they need to apologize for this mythic raid mount, and presumably 1% mount, being so trash
>sir, another blood elf reskin has hit the live servers
>>581032998>>581031865
Why do retail players think WoW forever can't go in a different direction than retail and everything has to be done in a retail way? you know guild wars 2, osrs exist right and WoW forever is gonna add content like them?
New toy idea:>Expendable Broomstick>After raid leading 100 PUG groups, get a magical broomstick that cleans all skeletons from the boss room.>Cooldown: 15 minutes
"forever" is the most stale corpo shit imaginable, what happens when you're owned by microsoft and are making games for "everyone" (the absolute lowest common denominator).
>>581033215because it has a 100% retail weirdo blue space alien Avatar race, a 100% retail UI, and a stale 100% retail title
Why doesn't Blizzard just make the game look as good as the cinematics? It's literally the worst part of WoW how everything is visually stuck in 2006.
>>581033232>ticks the leader group>never says a word
wow forever is going to kill retail and then kill itself. happened with runescape. we're next.
>>581033570It would make it the most hardware demanding game ever created. Usually games require either a good CPU or a good GPU. Not both
>>581033570Could you imagine how insanely hype people would get if you had a "WoW cinematic" quality presentation, but then it zooms out and it's ACTUALLY IN-GAME VIDEO? People would fucking break. But instead people want more slop. It's why I think XIV is more popular.
>>581030081no. l2read fucking product info
I'm not gonna lie, i enjoyed the Rommath and Umbric Toxic Yaoi arc i wish to see more. Blizzard should commission independent Japanese artists to do BL manga's and continue with those two. And branch off into Furry as well there is so much untapped boylove potential on Azeroth.
>>581033703>average WoW gamer is a 45+ dad gamer boomer or 30 y/o zillenial with infinite disposable income>????????????>2026does this mean nothing? graphics are so piss easy nowadays that literal third world developers do it
>>581033708>XIV is more popular.
>>581033575>type something in chat>it comes out red instead>panic and promote all and pass lead >don't type for rest of group
>>581033868>average WoW gamer... infinite disposable incomelol. lmao.
>>581033848It was better than the centaurs i guess
>It's why I think XIV is more popular.
>forever gets rtx, water shaders, a whole new rendering engine, etc.theyre really sunsetting retail huh
>XIV is more popular
>>581034051they do buy every store mount/house/mog for the price of a full new game
>>581033317This. Blizz took the "listening to the community"-pill and now they're making shit for everyone which is actually for nooneThe misconception is that the plebs know what they want. A true artist just creates and the audience reacts. Love it or hate it that's what they did since SL. And dammit I had a modicum of respect for them for that. But now they're cowtowing to every fan's stupid demand and they end up tailoring the game for poopsock autists, mountsmogcheevers, and wowdads; but the finished product is so unrecognisable that nobody is happy. Happens to everything (everything) that gets acquired by megacorps.True art should be loved and hated. "Crowd-pleasing" art is pic related or alternatively elevator muzak. WoW: Forever is just WoW: Muzak. Damn I cooked with that one somebody write that down
>>581034118>>581034210
>>581033317Nah this shit would've happened with or without Microsoft. This has been Holly Longdale's bread and butter for ages
>>581033708>It's why I think XIV is more popular.You may have had a point if we were still in the Endwalker launch era, but that was years ago now. Dawntrail did irreparable damage to the game's sub numbers and reputation.
>>581034254I'd rather they listen to the community and try something new instead of listening to two teams of Raiders and make a game exclusively for them.
>>581033848Gay as this post may be, Rommath/Umbric was by far the most personality we've seen this expac (that is to say, any at all)
>>581034515cute selfie
>>581034246yea I mean it's worth it because I spend hundreds of hours on this instead of paying $60+ for a game you play for 20 hours MAYBE so it's a nice treat for the developers and writers and programmers who work so very hard to deliver us a quality product that they can stand behind and be proud of in general and I'm not mad honestly that there are some bugs because they've been working hard and I bet they've got something big planned for 12.2 but you're just gonna have to wait and see now aren't you haha but don't forget world of warcraft classic forever+ is coming soon with lateral progression systems and a lemon-based cleaning derivative in which you can spend thousands of hours too and it will have hardcore don't forget about that either but not at launch because we want like a double hype wave kind of thing ong stay blessed young man
>>581034515i dont get this meme is the tranny a classic fag? the retail rat? or the forever retard?
>>581033570Do you have spare 200gb of space and 5090 to handle 40 high res players in the same area?
truth nvke
>>581033848The way gay men say "boys" makes me uncomfortable
>>581034625but enough about wpsg
>you can have last names in ForvoWhy isn't that in the real game?
>>581034625>said truth nvke>but nothing in the image is truecurious
>>581034290
>>581034384>listen to the community!>NO NOT LIKE THATUnironically tho. I agree they could have done it better if they listened to the good ideas
>>581034381>Dawntrail did irreparable damage>irreparable If wow could come back from BfA and sneedlands back to back, then xiv can come back from one mid-tier expac.
They need to straight up go no add-ons in forever from the get-go, not sure what they promised at blizzcon or whatever but ban every single one.
WoW2 would've been betterinstead they're just feeding people slop they've already played and seenand slapping a $ sign on it
>>581034625wowg's aversion to Forever is explained by the fact there isn't enough furry races for them to transfer over and erp
>>581034912>There's no furriesYou know what that's a good point I'm quitting Retail.
>>581034893it's part of your sub kupo!
>>581034886That's not going to happen
>>581031307you haven't killed it yet?>>581031487>they literally removed the putrid membrane.what does that do
>>581034625Yo buddy I think you got the wrong general, /khg/ is two blocks down.
>>581034912my biggest aversion to forever is 1. literally all of the content i can play right now in retail, except for the alleged """""new"""""" slop that you'll get to raid log every week (just like in retail) and 2. the blue faggot blood elf reskin and 3. it's a solved game that will be ruined by all of the streamer slop on day one and if you're not completely optimized you won't be able to play the game at all.
>>581034893They don't want to spend $300m on a coinflip and they wasted all possible villains already so they can't even do GW -> GW2 thing of setting next game in the future, since there are no new threats to introduce.
My troll is going to take some goblin slag into the Worldsoul chamber and plap her right inside Azeroth's soul, he's gonna cum everywhere too.
im gonna skygoon alrght
bro clean up your cum, don't cum everywhere what the hell
>timewalking weekah ni->it's cata:(
sex with Nora Mills
>>581035164> all of the content i can play right now in retailwell no, you can play the Cata version of these zones.>blue faggot blood elf reskinit's awful>it's a solved gamethey specifically mentioned that they didnt't want it to feel like that>streamer slop on day one and if you're not completely optimized you won't be able to play the game at allPeople said this about classic but when i played I had no idea what I was doing and didn't look anything up and was completely fine. I was even on a streamer server (grobbulus) and didn't notice much.
>>581035410That's good tho?! You get a free heroic item because firelands.
>>581035469>they specifically mentioned that they didnt't want it to feel like thatand when has that ever stopped them before.oh wa-
>>581035508really uncomfy week to level tanks for some reason
>>581035216>no new threats to introduce>*cue asteroid from the sky with a million demons/monsters from super hell or whatever*C'mon kid use your imagination
Are we all in agreement that Forever is literally WoW 2?
>>581035669Yes but wowg is currently in denial.
>>581035669No it's more like WoW Take 2. WoW 2 would have to continue the story. This is WoW: Mulligan
>>581035669I mean it visually looks like wow2...
>>581035669>>581035726I destroyed your memes>>581026490
They finally make a playable Human male Paladin protagonist who gets mandatory Elf girlfriend. And he ends up being Forsaken in a plot where you gotta clown on Scarlets.I almost feel bad for Retfags
skygoon bbw
>>581035820And she is not a vile cunt like alleria.
>>581035820he looks so cool, I wanted to make a forsaken after playing but their hunch and model looks retarded. It's literally the chad/virgin meme
>>581035820whoever wrote the wc3 dlc should write wow retail
is it winds of fortune + tw tomorrow? It this the best leveling until Wrathmix in the summer?
>>581014317If you're on 4chan, odds are good you're already addicted to porn because 4chan is a porn site.
>>581036213Yes
>level 28leveling a rogue has been the single most miserable experience ive had in a mmo and its basically just began
>>581034641I prefer boys older than me and i'm on my mid 20s. The thing about fags is that we're eternally youthful while straights rot away with disgusting body hair and what not, we're the original looksmaxxers. Boy is also a mindset, to be something cute and not ugly.And that, is what makes male characters attractive, we need more of those in WoW. Dracthyr were an amazing addition for that.
>>581036179Its lliterally wow forever tl
>>581036000>casually confirms Forever has a better story and is the spiritual successor to wow
>>581035640Let me correct my statement: it's not that there are no villains to introduce, of course they can asspull whatever they want, it is a fictional story after all. But it is much harder to introduce new, fresh and interesting villains that don't feel like Burning Legion 2.0 or Old Gods 2.0. WoW's cosmology is so overexplained and overexplored that there aren't many meaningful threads to pull on.Like, fuck, we even been to afterlife and going to explore Azeroth's caged sloppy womb.
guess i need to find a new mmo to play. at least gw3 is coming out soon.
>>581036453I very much doubt they will explore WoW's cosmology after how people reacted to Shadowlands / Worldsoul SagaWith how they introduced the WC3 new characters I'm kind of excited to see what new villains they can create.
>>581036406what are the timeline differences?
>you will never quest in big tree hills againthe azure span is legitimately one of the best zones in the game if not the best
>>581034838Not quite an excellent post, but still a good post
>>581036527Here is your next mmo
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/midnight-season-2-trinket-tuning-%E2%80%93-september-22/2349649OH NO OH NO OH NOHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA
>>581036776i aint playing that shit.
I log in and just walk around and then log off. What's the point anymore
>>581036865I willl~ ty
You know what excites me most about WoW Forever? Arthas, Kael'thas, and Deathwing are all still alive.Blizzard literally has a redo button to not ruin these characters. That goes especially for Kael. Fuck Blizzard for what they did to him.
>>581036969You're not getting Kael's original VA back bro
>>581036969WHAT IF...the Jailer got the sigils????
>>581036439They're the same writers. You're placebo-ing yourself.
More rare resource spawns to craft new patterns in Forever. I'm gonna make bank camping them and selling gold.
>>581036969honestly northrend in forever's rendering engine would make me cum
>no furries in ForeverWhat should I roll? I like tauren a lot so I defaulted to that but then I remembered my friends always play Alliance.
If retail's world, worldbuilding and story is apparently as bad as they keep insisting through all the subtle jabs about Forever's marketing. Why doesn't Holly just do her job and break up the warcraft story team and put Metzen fully in charge?
>>581037274roll a rope and jump
>>581037274Dwarfs are hairyGnomes are sexual deviantsNight Elf can turn into animals
>>581037278Metzen is washed up and everybody knows it, he was brought back to present the worldsoul saga and it's a complete disaster
>>581037446>playing feral in classic
>>581036789the season is already over, who cares
>>581037485>he was brought back to present the worldsoul saga and it's a complete disasterNot only that>nooo warcraft is too agressive!
>>581037278Because Holly's job is to pander to people over 40, not actually fix the problems with wow.
tauren in forever has plainsrunningwhat the fuck is goin on, give me this in retail
>>581037274sister? your tauren?your drtuids?your hunters?
>ze bought the last titan
>>581037681her job is to pander to women and an international audience.
>>581036969I wonder if they will make belves enemies for both factions this time
>>581035669It's more like Retail-
>>581037887u wish>>581036969
>>581037274I'll be playing tauren
>>581037887yeah
>>581038017>u wishThat's so ironic.
its so over...
>>581038141
>>5810381414chan is dead, thats why wowg is so slow!!!!!
>>581037278Because it's not about actually improving or changing anything. The whole Classic/Forever vs Retail rivalry was always manufactured, they're the exact same franchise in the exact same company. The whole point is to keep players in the pipeline by having multiple incarnations of the same game and to keep telling players "THIS IS THE ONE YOU WANT, NO REALLY". Every time I see someone taking part in the Classic/Forever vs Retail argument, I'm just reminded I'm watching a very obvious marketing gimmick.
>>581038341>7 ppm>5 ppmlol they are dead as fuck classic had 20 ppm
>>581038405I don't think it's marketing, gamers are just really dumb and tribal in general, especially the vocal ones
>>581038405Union issues mostly.
>i cant believe our gen is dying!>every post about the game ignored>every other post is crying about forever
>>581038073
>>581038629Stop samefagging
>>581038405This is not marketing at all lol this is 4chan shitposting just read the dev roadmap lmao the next wave of updates for both games are schedule for the off season of both games.
>>581037274Grim.
>>581038405>it's all a giant marketing conspiracyok bud, im sure they made retail bad on purpose to sell more classic too
what does NC think about forevershit? did he weigh ini haven't been keeping up with the thread
>>581038820Retail spent a decade making the shittiest expansions possible just so they can get everyone to move to Forever.
>>581034347nice second life screenshot
>wowg has been buck broken by classic with ray tracing
>>581038528Yeah, I see Classic players trying to dunk on retail and all I can think is they must have really been frustrated by the diminishing returns Classic was giving them despite all their hopes and expectations, otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to even force this rivalry meme, they would just play their game. And yeah, retail's story sucks and I'm only playing it because I'm used to how it plays. I won't be moving to Forever because I'm not convinced the story will be any better or that the gameplay will feel more refined. I'm sure it will look better with lighting and fog but that was never what I played WoW for. I think these devs are out of touch and riding off the legacy and inertia of people who knew what they were doing.
>>581039201>with ray tracingand no femworgen, that's the real problem
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>>581038837PAGING NCanswer me
