Previous >>581042368>What is WoW: Forever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
>>581051397Because they're a bunch of cuck lords being used by a fucking demon that started the undead in the first place lmao
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efE_3ukJVWg
>>581052306>no dude you WANT to be two timed by a literal demon. if you don't you're a heckin sissy!
i was really hoping they took away the behind the target requirement for backstableveling with sinister strike is boring
Alliance should have gotten Harpies and horde Nagas. Bird pussy and snake pussy
Xth for being a full time harpy breeder who never gets killed because they want my superior seed
I'm going to play a Troll Shaman
Tell me the DEFINITIVE class/spec for sky elves
is it true that Orc hunters can tame sky elf boys as pets?
HOLY SHIT STOP FUCKING TYPING YOU TRIPLE NIGGERS, /VG/ THREADS SHOULDN'T LAST 1 FUCKING HOUR
>>581052269that will eventually invalidate all old content which is just what wow already didnew raid gear will be identical, but with a glove enchant that makes another meme spec +2% better and meta for that patch
>>581052383>nooooo why do i have to be behind the target to stab them in the back
SOVL Gas...
>>581052269No, I’m not. The entire fucking reason I brought this up is because that’s the dumb shit I’m expecting them to do and it’s not real horizontal content. You are insufferably retarded.
Xth for horizontal progression (two dungeons added in 6 months with gear that outclasses the first raid tier)
>Durotar 2026
>>581052398flag carrier druid so you can abuse their goblin glider racial on warsong.
>>581052450Needs more fog
Glad this is coming out closer to the holidays compared to classic. Going to be a comfy 2 months.
>Still not a single word from blizzard on how they plan on implement horizontal progression at max lvlI bet you they haven’t even talked about it and will just do as they always doRelease raids every 6 months, reset PvP season, some rated BGs and call it a day
>>581052398uninstall wizard lmaoooooo
What class do i main… i feel compelled to be undead for the best starting zone, Smurf for a new starting zone, or human for the best racial
>>581052398Elemental Shaman seems most fitting given their connection to Skywall.
>>581052450>nooo my heckin 2004 world!!
>>581052449>ah man why do i have to fuckin gouge everytime i want to use backstab in combat now
>>581052450
>>581052494Why are you posting videos of >>581052417 's village?
>>581052450BLIZZARD HIRE THIS MA- oh...
>>581052450Is a titan brapping to cover the continents with the gas? Is killing the farting titan the end game of forever?
>be me(Orc fury warrior)>enter a new zone>stumble upon this weird new racewhat do you do?
>>581052450I hate how I love most of the improvements except the fucking fog
All the brown people left on private servers lmao
>>581052398Sex slave with broodmare spec
>>581052450Did they really show this? And it's unedited? Was it a clip and this is a still, or is this a screenshot they showcased?
>>581051517>Why?they're so insane that anyone who is not part of the scarlet crusade they think are undead collaborators and kill them, living or otherwise.
>>581052519>gif that doesn’t moveVery grim
>And now you dare enter my realm? You are not... What's that? They're not coming? They're all having sex with blue elves?
>>581052573Ignore it
>mention there’s no horizontal progression announced or planned>people suddenly realize and start talking about it>one fucking retard who doesn’t know what horizontal progression is defending it to the death I hope you see how fucking dumb you are now.
>>581052398I like them as Mages.But the non-exclusionary classes are interesting choices because then you can make the same character RPly in both factions and RP as a neutral character.
>>581052597There's a brown person right here though>>581052573>>581052417
Reasons to kill the scarlet crusade>they are very hostile to anybody who isn't scarlet crusade Really that simple. They will kill any human who isn't on their side. You can't negotiate a peace with them. It's like asking for diplomatic relations to the cult of the damned.
>>581052573Frot
>>581052450why yes I will be fogmaxxin
The no shoes cries out in pain as he gets buffed
>>581052597i want to check out epoch reborn, but the second c+ launches im outtie. waaayyyy too many hispanics on those servers. giving me retail ragnaros player flashbacks
>>581052573Kill them and eat them. Since orcs are aliens there should be no prion disease.
>>581052663I can see you're really pissed off about something you read on 4chan.Have you considered getting a life?LOL
>>581052449Just reach over their shoulder dumb dumb
>>581052663They explicitly said horizontal progression was the main goal in like 3 different panels.It's not gonna happen now because there's no fucking vertical progression beyond levels.
MOGGED BY CONQUEST OF AZEROTH
>>581052683blue elf boys literally have Orcs on their mind all the time...
>>581052450>>581052575Certainly was no fog in vanilla Darkshore!
>>581052686You know theres an embassador of the crusade in stormwind right?
>The 5080 only has 16 gb VRAM there’s no way right?
>>581052686So do you think sylvanas pussy is rotten and stinky? I'm thinking yes.
>>581052818If you can't tell the difference between fogs you're retarded
>>581052865hers is pristine and juicy>through the power of horny anything is possible
Ironforge is the perfect spot to have a couple pints with the lads
>he doesnt know new raids are just going to be cosmetic for transmog which is why it was added to forever
>>581052686>They will kill any human who isn't on their side.The like, dozen of them total in Lordaeron?
>>581052831And? Stormwind also has a dragon in it and nobody is collaborating with the black dragonflight.
>>581052865Yeah I think her clit would fall off from too much friction
>>581052524>achievements>account points>transmog>collectable mounts>chase rewards (war glavies)>probably profession itemsthey've got somethings planned. Is it enough to hold everyone's attention forever?
what should my ally character be? thinking nelf priest or dwarf pally
>30% reduced damage taken>10% more reduced damage taken>10% reduced physical damage taken>18% buffed drain life with 20% increase ranged and then additional 9 extra yards range>high stamina, you end up with more hp than warriors>increased armor and hp5 from demon armor>undeads touch of the grave has no internal cd >curse of weakness>fear>death coil>voidwalker sacrifice x2>felhunter hard cucks other casters >health stone>soul stone
i dont know what race i want to be for warrior or rogue
>>581052573Teach him to be strong and we both kill all the rapist orcs.
>>581052997That would explain why she's always fuck ass madImagine being forever blue balled
>>581052941Holy shit that makes sense Raiding just gets you transmog and housing pieces
Would anyone like to do gay centaur erp with me when "World of Warcraft: Forever" releases?
>>581052398Their society is split between elementalists and highborne purists so shaman for horde and mage for allianceDruid I guess for third party fence sitters.
>>581052950Are you kidding me? If you enter any scarlet crusade dungeon you think they'll just give you a pass?
>>581052450is this going to be a toggle? I like it but it would be lame if other people could see me before I saw them for world pvp (true endgame)
>>581052858Are you both lost and a time traveler?
>>581053024No but it's much better than before.
>>581053074I don't know what people have against housing in forever when it was already planned in vanilla and fits the theme of community.
>>581052964The whole "Scarlet crusade are crazy and see everyone else as undead or infected" is cope to explain why they're hostile to the alliance because of playability reason. In canon the crusade only ever fights against forsaken and other horde monster races in classic. They even have an elf lady as one their revered heroes.
>>581053035>gets nuked by gnome rogue opener anyway
>>581053186It's gay
>>581053186They associate housing with women and gays simple as
>>581053140You can probably turn down your graphics settings to get rid of it. WoW has always had pretty decent graphics options.
>>581052941Good way to do this is; -Each Major Content Update squish the power level of all max power level players.-Then every single piece of old endgame content is now back on the menu to choose how to progress that season. Can either do the new endgame content or the old endgame content to get your max gear for that season.
Fuck me, I haven't played this shit since Pandaria but I'm actually interested between the alternate timeline premise and the promise of horizontal progression. I thought I was basically done with MMOs forever.
>>581053127>enter their place without permission>WAIT WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING YOURSELF
>>581053247So why are you in a house right now, are you gay?
>>581053331He's indian he's posting this from his phone under a hut
>>581053186The one good argument I've seen against it is it discourages people from being out in the world. Other than that, I don't really see why it can't be added and just be something you toggle on like transmog. If you toggle it on, you get the drops, if not, the whole system is invisible. In my experience with it in Retail, basically nobody sits in their houses, so I don't think it'd make much of a difference honestly. Just a feature for the girls, homosexuals, and roleplayers.
>>581053197Why tell you think the scarlet crusade should be friendly to the alliance anyway? so they can be locked out of fighting them?
>>581052752>get a life LOLI accept your defeat.
>>581052831You know the leadership of Stormwind is corrupt as fuck, right? That's the entire reason the Defias even exist. Never mind the "Prestor" family.
>>581053331This is maybe the most retarded post ever.
>>581053035>ambush>vanish>ambush>eviscerate>backstab>deadWhoooaaahh nice talents bro, too bad my Gnome rogue just disposed of you in 5 seconds lol
Madseason forever video when I can't have an opinion on forever unless Mr Madseason has one I can copy
>>581053297It's crazy just how many people I've heard saying this, niggas that haven't played in 15 years suddenly coming back because the game has hope for the first time in 20 years
I actually am a big fan of having transmog for foreverI can get the scarlet gear and tabard and larp as an undead crusader
>>581053186It’s inherently homosexual
>>581053474He said it was retail classic already
>>581053474Literally already made one retard
Faggots here getting extra touchy when you point out the game looks like shit. Probably because it looks like shit. >t.Classic Vanilla-Wotlk only chad.
>>581053527>>581053593I disagree with your assertion
>>581053375In an ideal world, if the game didn't care about balance, alliance players should start neutral with the scarlet crusade, nelf druids should only be playable by males and priests by females, paladins and priests should do extra dmg to forsaken players with light spells, etcBut this community would not accept this level of sovl.
>>581053593It was just an information recap, no opinions offered.
>>581053632>Wotlkgo back to retail, fag
>>581053632And yet you’re here. Fascinating.
>>581052418WoW Forever just be hype like that is all
>>581053632No one cares newfag go back to your containment, or is it so dead you have to come here to get any attention?
Should I get the beta edition of the Sexo Elves or just the Sexo Elves and play something else in the meantime?
>>581053294That's just vertical progression with a bunch of extra steps. I think it would make more sense for there to be something of a cap on how much damage raid gear provides at some point, but have the gear provide more options. Like changing the effects of your abilities, granting new abilities, giving resistances or bonus damage to certain enemies that are relevant in later raid content, etc.
im still gonna play it but im not really under any illusions that forever isnt just retail-
With some tweakss the new fog can be great for some zones
>>581052912Ideally it'd take 2 months to level at 4 hours a day. People playing 12 hours a day will just have to cope and seethe.
>>581053656And the characters should also have to eat and sleep and take shits
>>581053238>>581053430>trinket stun>death coil>no shadowstepYou lose
When's the beta?
>>581053754It makes sense in zones like duskwood and plaguelands but having a bunch of retarded fog in barrens is idiotic.
>>581053754Adding fog to a zone like Duskwood is good. But they just added fog to every fucking zone.
>>581053802Why mad?
can you toggle the fog off?
>>581053815Beta countdown at www.meatspin.com
Retail niggers being on Forever is a good thing. It means they can pay for all the content updates while I continue to play on Classic mode with all their gay transmogs disabled.
>>581053815
>>581053691>yet you are here in the /wowcg/ generalYes anon I know you are a tourist but before you hoped on the hype train for retoilet- it was a general exclusive to the discussion of Classic and not retoilet-. Sit down nigger.
Hey faggots, just wanna say any traitors to octowow are idiots and you'll come crawling and fcking BEGGING kestrel to have ur account back, regretting backstabbing the greatest man to ever stand up for c+ community. A man of honor and integrity, unlike u `FCKING RE TAIL KEKS!
>>581053880No. Wow Foggever.
>>581052418Jannies better give us a sticky on launch. Imagine all the gachashit gens we're going to kill on the 4th.
>>581053632Holy based You got all the retail trannies seething
>>581053656Pining for gender locked classes is the return to monke of the mmo world
>>581053941Learn to read thirdy, this is /wowfg/
>beta>datamining>streamersWhy is this allowed? It's going to ruin everything.
>>581053947The server will probably still be getting DDoS'd by the time Forever launches bro. If it even manages to make it that long before getting nuked by blizzard.
>>581053713I just got the sex elves. An additional $30 to just play a beta up to lvl 30 for a month doesn't seem worth it. And I reckon release will be more exciting if you haven't played the beta. But you gotta get the sex elves.
>>581054112Because the youtube guides and streamers are probably responsible for like 60% of the hype
Skyborne should be allowed to be both shamans or paladins. Seems retarded to me that they are limiting those classes to 1 race.
>>581054112just don't be terminally online and none of this will effect you
>welfare spectral bear mount and cash shop shadowlands blue bird cat mount already in the game AHAHAHAHATHEY MANAGED TO FUCK UP C+ BEFORE BETA IS EVEN RELEASED A WORLD RECORD
>>581052271whats the best class for being a nuisance in world pvp and bgs?
>>581053880I would almost guarantee that there will be something in the graphics settings that will either disable or tone down the new environmental effects. They have to keep the game scalable to run on shitty Brazillian and Chinese computers.
>>581053941>it was a general exclusive to the discussion of ClassicThat was /wowcg/, anon. This is /wowfg/. It's an entirely different general. Mayhaps you ought to make a /wowcg/ thread so that you don't feel compelled to post here in this /wowfg/ thread? Just a suggestion.
>>581054112You really think there's anything Blizz could do to deter or stop minmaxers? It's futile
>>581054112i will install a cracked version of restedxp and rush to 60. thank you for the beta blizzard
>jobless>dry out of money>need to find work or starve>wow forever is coming out in a month and a halfAbsolutely gutted. I'll be washing dishes and sucking cock on the streets while everyone else is having the time of their lives.
>>581053860What are you talking about bro? I'm saying it's soulful for my human warlock too walk into the scarlet crusade cathedral and being welcomed because he's human and hasn't clearly made pacts with demons. The scarlet crusade loves guys colluding with demons! But maybe that's ridiculous. It should just be human paladins/priests that are neutral with the crusade. Let's just forget about the Argent dawn actually getting anything done against the scourge. Those guys are lame and already friendly towards the players. Everybody loves class locked factions? Is that it?
>>581053828>It makes sense in zones like duskwood and plaguelands but having a bunch of retarded fog in barrens is idiotic.Have you ever been some place really dry with a lot of people running around? Guess what happens. They kick up dust and you get "fog".
>>581054072>WoW retoilet- gets announced>One uppity faggot got upset that people were shitting on the game >Decided to create /wowfg/ and splinter the user base despite having 3 other fucking WoW generals already just so he could have his circle jerk in peace>Instead of /wowcg/ posters leaving they say fuck it and merge with his shitty thread because splitting the userbase further would have been retarded>Proceed to make fun of retoilet- trannies until they eventually fuck off This general belongs to Classic chads. Sit down nigger.
>>581054256Sir you may be lost. This isn't Classic+, it's WoW Forever.
>>581054334Time to turn to crime
>>581052663>>581052769their horizontal progression is retarded biome-related shit and +damage to undead
>>581054331beta caps at level 30 cousin
>>581054350Holy cope
>>581054302Can make min-maxxing look cozier.AKA, make them sit in camps by a fire.
>>581054339Yeah the barrens is a flat plain with dust everywhere of course it's going to have red dust sandstorms Imagine how kino shimmering flats would be tho
>>581054363Holly said this is Classic plus, nigger.
Reminder that the skelf girls aren’t actually cute because they’re just reskinned blood elves which are the 2006 idealized white woman made to look like twig and bones that happen to have a waistline.>the art is hella cute tho
Im gonna /spit on every filthy skyigger i see
>>581054350>we're here to reclaim /our/ general, not because it lost!
>>581054540They nerfed the emote. Can't be hurting paypiggy feelings.
>>581054540/spit doesn't work anymore, newfag
>>581054540>skyiggerthis will be my skelf name, pls dont steal
Now that the dust has settled, are you ready to leave the classic+ dream behind and move on?
>>581054334>gainfully employed>wife is pregnant >will be on paternity leave for 8 weeks when WoW forever drops>hired a nanny already to help my wife and to cover during the day when I return to work (WFH)Yeah, I'm about to go full degenerate.
>>581054334anon, it's the same price as any WoW. $15 a month
im gonna tame every single sky elf i see
>here's your horizontal progression, brooh gee, i cant wait to equip my forest and woodland areas set for this dungeon!
Those blue elves must have the cutest, smallest, most adorable mouthwatering little cocks...
>>581052450This water looks better than the retail one what the fuck
>competing for sidegrades in a horizontal system against 39 other people
>>581054619This is the classic+ dream chud.
>>581054685Actual SOVL effects
>>581054350ah that makes sense, so that's why there's been so much era and anni and progression server discussion in this general
>>581054583We can sexually harass them with /lick
>>581054685id be fine if it was mainly bespoke trinkets. if its entire gearsets, then im fucking out
>>581054619The classic+ nightmare
>>581054661>pregnant wife>about to be a father>choosing to not participate so you can play a trannified classicYour wife will hate you. Your child not long after. You are pathetic.
>>581054685saving this charm to trap my wife when worgen inevitably become playable
im gonna /lick every single sky elf
>>581054708anon, you must let go. blizzard had a fairly simple job but completely shat the bed
>>581054685> 2 mp5 trinket>stun a worgen for 4 secondsno one will ever do this
>>581054661I'm getting married 3 days after launch and then honeymoon so I'll be like 3 weeks behind the curve
>>581054685You say that as if its bad but changing gear in different environments is neat fantasy flavour
>>581054860I will :)
>>581054685>OH my god is that classic+ in the classic+ game?
>>581052450It looks nice but then I look and see the low poly trees and I kinda just chuckle a bit.
>>581054851>let goI preordered and already took an extended weekend for betta. I cried during the announcement and cinematic. I am filled to the brim with joy and hope for the future. Your doomjeeting can’t stop me from having fun.
someone needs to impersonate aggrend's boss and tell him he's fired if he doesnt start maining hunter
>>581054350hey that was me that made itkys where are you korean images
>>581053495Yeah man, I even surprised myself by how interested I was. I played a bunch in vanilla, quit because I was still in school and was a social butterfly back then, then played from 2.4 until sometime fairly early in Cata, came back toward the end of Cata and played for about two months of Pandaria, and was fully convinced I would never come back under any circumstances. My old WoW crew have pretty much the same sentiment too, we all quit at around the same time but we're all thinking about it.
>>581054619This actually is my classic+ dream. A living game with lots of new content and changes. Couldn't be more happy. Era fags can stay on era.
Will we be able to stack self heal and spirit on troll to get huge combat regen or will the racial be useless like always
>>581054398oh this one is better than the other you made at my request. unfathomably based
>>581054685This is the exact issue I’m talking about. If this is the answer for “horizontal progression” it’s fucking cooked. Not that vertical will be terrible, it’s the version we already have and enjoy. But it’s not good that Blizzard is making big promises like meaningful horizontal progression and following it with this. You can’t reskin attack or spell power and call it horizontal progression.
>>581053941we talked about retail all the timeanyways that tranime poster is right time to reheat the generaltoo many faggots in this one
>>581054981I’m praying for you, anon. Please don’t an hero when the reality hits
>>581053990pretty sure traffic will drop since people will actually be playing....
>>581054685>we want horizontal progression!!!>NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!! GIVE ME MASSIVE ILVL INCREASES AND OP BONUSES THAT INVALIDATE EVERYTHING ELSE!!!
>>581055063I never thought a version of WoW this close to my ideal would exist. Is it everything I've ever wanted? No. But that the was never going to happen. Still, this is close enough that after feeling left behind for over a decade, I'm officially ready to fucking come home.
Where are all the pictures of improved graphics are from? I thought it was a blizzcon panel but it is not. Can someone give me a link?
>>581055063is the „lots of content“ in the room with us?
>>581055137Tastefully revealing was a bit vague
when I first saw them I assumed the gnome guardian angel was self only. they are really just straight up giving gnome priests a capstone talent AND an aoe CC on a 2 minute CD for zero investment. I was holding off to see if the human racial was something like 1 or 2 minutes so that they popped off as disc but no, 10 minute cd for a moderate heal + extra shield on a target that has to be below 50% to usethere really is zero choice when it comes to alliance races. I suppose its the same for horde with undead but its actually crazy how cracked gnomes are turning out
>>581054685retard
>>581055161I’ll be fine. Try not to kill yourself after another 1,000 hours on esl basement servers of a solved game
>>581054183All right.
>>581055218>nooooooo i arrived to the dungeon in my murloc slaying gear but the mobs are all dragonkin fno one asked for this
>>581055264>I'm officially ready to fucking come homeHear hear, have fun Anon
>>581054334>Govt mandated NEET>Money always flowing in 1st of the month>No need to work fridge always full>WoW Forever coming out in a month and a halfI will not be grinding fast to 60. I will be RP walking between quests while taking it all in. I will talk to (You) if I see you out in the open world. I will help (You) if you're struggling and about to die. Unless you're a Skelf then suck my cock.
>>581054410When season of SoDomy was announced and released we never split the general but retoilet- niggers are so hyper defensive about their game looking like a piece of shit. Really makes ya think.
>>581054619no. I don't like the higher player power, I don't like automatically learning spells upon level up, I don't like the gay elves, and I don't like the mishmash of classic/retail visuals. But I will still give it a chance and play it for what it is since it comes with the sub.
>>581054692It's hilarious that Forever gets new water, lighting/raytracing, and fog before Retail. Blizzard isn't doing much to dispel the WoW 2 allegations
>>581055332I’m assuming they’re all gonna be accessible between the different races. Saw a nelf priest with devouring plague on one of the streams the other day.
>>581055328as long as the thighs are thick it'll be juicy
>>581055284it was a panel where they go over the changes and more additions they're making like lightshadows between trees
World of Warcraft Forever is an adorable name.
>>581054685Thats how horizontal progression works dumbass
>>581055437>he’s still typing paragraphs and coping
>>581055512Fear ward and devouring plague were made baseline
>>581055437go make your era general? i don't see the problem. this is actual mental illness
>milking manchildren foreverI-is that why holly kept laughing at us on stage?
>>581055570more like World of Warcraft Forelves
>>581055512They really are stealing every idea from pserversBased.
>>581055656Lol everyone's gettin back into WoW. ZAMN
>>581054685>naxx tier 3 has AP/SP against undead and frost resist>alakir raid tier 3 has AP/SP against elementals and nature resist>malygos raid tier 3 has AP/SP against dragonkin and arcane resisthorizontal progression........soul.............
>>581055424I would heal you on my sky elf... baka
>>581055681Oh cringe. Yeah I’m not touching priest then.
Completely killed my interest by forcing me to seal twist
Alright, I just installed Burning Crusade Classic Anniversary. Going to peek my head in.
>>581055512there are still priest racials, they simply made fearward baseline and gave dwarves tbc priest racials and devouring plague baseline w/some tie ins to shadow tree and gave undead a lifetap instead
>>581055827You can play holy shock or you can quit and the world will be better with 1 less ret paladin.
>>581054350but /wowcg/ was barely able to exist.You can literally see them hanging by a thread in the archive
lol lmao
Every few years, I'll check in with WoW to see if they've added high elves yet. And every few years, they add something elvish or elf-adjacent, but not high elves. And so I do not sub. It's that simple.>B-but anon, they do, they're called--Nope, they don't. If "high elf" isn't in the name, they're not high elves. Get fucked.
>>581055693Your posting in the /wowcg/ nigger now shhhhh
Important question: Should my sky elf be really blue? Like a blueberry blue? Or just light blue? Or should I just go with fair skin?
>>581055741>>alakir raidSTOP GOD DAMN IT I'M ALREADY HARD
>>581055946Ha! Upvoted!
>>581055332dwarf racials are shit
>>581055827they should just kill seal twisting and make the spec braindead 2bh. would fit the ret class fantasy very well
>>581055904holy shock this bussy
funny shit
>>581056006The bluest blue you can find to make the no changes queers seethe.
>>581055957sky elves are distant cousins of night elves
>>581055332Someone on the dev team mains a pink pigtail gnome for sure. Both their regular racials and priest racials are profoundly overpowered.
Enemy player camps should be destructable on pvp servers. It's not enough to kill them you should be able to douse their campfire, tear down the tent and knock over the sharpening wheel as well.
Gnome needs to be nerfed and Dwarves need fucking SOMETHING.
>>581055957What you posted just doesn't exist in WoW. They became Blood Elves. That city in the background is a Blood Elf city. There's no High Elf city with Silvermoon style architecture. That's a Blood Elf Spellbreaker armor set, just colored blue. What you want would require a time loop back before Arthas wiped out the High Elves. If they add High Elves to WoW, they won't be a cool, proud, noble race. They'll be pathetic refugees & blood traitors to their people who chose the Alliance over their own race.
BM Hunter leveling will be great as per usual
>>581056231>Dwarves need fucking SOMETHINGgive them 1% damage if they are smashed
>>581055993>your/wowcg/this bucks brain has been broken. tragic
>>581056098>they should just kill seal twistingHaven't they already done that though?
>>581056006Don't know about you, friend, but my blueberry will be fair skinned, blond haired and blue eyed. This way there is no one who could dismiss or muddy the racism allegations.
>>581052271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZmUjHbhOgYChrist have mercy! Now that's an ass!
>>581056104>ret pally>bussyNot helping the allegations
I whaled and bought the Reforge bundle.Is the Reforge campaign good enough for a nostalgia trip or should I just jump to the new expansion?
>>581055332There's zero chance this stuff makes it out of beta. The Gnome crap just probably went under the radar and the other devs didn't notice some Gnome freak snuck it into the Blizzcon demo.
>>581054685>he thinks leveling rares have anything to do with progression
>>581056236>hi i'm a human>but now i'm addicted to strawberries>i'm a strawberry human nowthey are high elves. smell my semantic cock.
>>581056137>beta access from the mcdonalds appI just... I... I don't know anymore man.
>>581056137no fucking way this is real
>>581056352Whaled too hard that tier only exists to sell WC3 on the back of Forever hype. It’s not a good game.
>>581055957there's no bad reason not to play wow but you still managed to sound like a retard. future generations will study your post
>>581056137is this real. no way right
>>581056321
>>581056287yes but its a halfmeasure that they are trying to appease the sealtwisters without actually making it sealtwisting. just rip the bandaid off and delete it and put something that actually makes sense there
>>581056259All leveling is looking to be piss easy.
People gonna laugh at me but i hoped they just gonna buff paladin damage or make it a supportnow i must test the beta to find a spec/class that let me chill and people bring me into the raid
>>581056006your choice.Personally, I intend to have a Fair Skinned Sky Elf Male Arcane Mageand a Blue Skinned Sky Elf Male Balance Druid.
>>581056137hook some wowfg homies up with beta keys fatty
>>581056406Okay, then High Order Sky Elves are High Elves too. They just took magic mushrooms from Al'Akir. So looks like you got your High Elves on Alliance! Have fun.
>>581056137Didn't see it on my app
>>581056550you will always have a raidspot as a shaman on both factions regardless of how shit you are, especially if you are willing to play resto
>>581056137>beta access for less than the cost of half a McDonald's hashbrownB-based...?
1000 points for beta access is how i know its fake thats too little.. they'd charge 10,000 points which is like 80$ in food
>>581056006make one of each, this game will encourage alts
>>581054685>link your westfall set or kick>Shadowfang Keep party worgenbane trinket REQ!!! LINK OR BLACKLISTI can't wait for the melties when classicfags suck all the fun out of this gearing system.
>>581056504It's such an out of touch addition. It's like they think the ret community actually WANTS to seal twist and that it's not a necessary evil born of grasping at every possible straw for relevant dps.
>>581056651Thanks for the replywhy shaman? also why will everyone not play this if this is the case?
>>581056137
>>581054350holy....BASED
Tell me how bad of an idea this is>Remove Dwarves treasure finding>Give them a Racial that lets them create a single Gemstone every 24 hours (within their level tier)Dwarves are typically known to be Hardy and love to create shit. Figured it be somewhat thematic.
>>581056786"McForges" makes me lol every time
>>581056137Bloody 'ell, mental init?
What did you guys think of the Final Fantasy: Resonance demo?
>>581056534How do you expect to get any quests done when each area will have dozens of people all trying to get the same 10 or so mobs?
>>581056961skill issue
>>581056904i don't have interest in bugmen games
>>581056759>>581056504You can thank Esfand for this. Blizzard literally asked him for his take on the talent tree and by his own word they took A LOT of his advice. That brown faggot literally told them he’s not gonna stream their game unless seal twisting is in and they bent over immediately. And to top it off he doesn’t even like it, he called the whole game a 5/10, said paladin needs a lot of work, but it’s “encouraging” (he was at blizzcon and couldn’t share his real thoughts yet while the devs are in arm’s reach)
i actually totally whaled out on warcraft stuff and im playing wc1 and wc2 right now the remastered ones before wc3:I didnt realize wc1 and wc2 litterarly had no characters lmaono wonder wc3 was the initial popular one
whats the most mana efficient class/spec to level with, It gotta be hunter right?
>>581056961you dingus it's gonna be sharded
>>581056475It's real, but only for Aussie McDonalds, I think
>>581056961group up? its a mmo after all
>>581057056aoe mage
>>581055957>we want exclusivity over the belf modelyou alliance subhumans are insufferable, it is never going to happen. belves are horde, always was, always will be.
>>581057056warrior
>>581056783godtier buffs that are party specific so you will want multiple in each raidthey historically have poor personal performance and are kind of boring to play. enhancement has some promise with forever changes, elemental still desperately needs a mana fix to function. it remains the safest pick if you simply always want a spot in content in my opinion
>>581057069absolutely incredible going to shit up /v/ with this
>have same blood elf character for 20 years>stop playing after WoTLK>can't be assed to catch up and deal with all the bullshit sneed and feed shennanigans they pulled over the past 15 years>occasionally play old content once it becomes free>it's dogshit, what the fuck was even shadowlands>fast forward to 2026>we're coming homei WILL make same knife ear character and the classi WILL make retoilets, nochanges chuds AND thirdworlders seethe with my paypigged blueberry sex elvesi WILL be huffing the soul gasThat will be all. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>581057021>he called the whole game a 5/10,i believe the rest but no shot that blizz guzzler said this lol
no shared mob taggingwait your turn to kill the quest mob... queue's over there :)
>>581057021>he called the whole game a 5/10, said paladin needs a lot of workLet's be real, he's saying that because he thinks ret isn't OP enough (it very much too OP)
>>581055957blizzard will never add the racist dogwhistle race
>>581056961>day1 (Thursday): server issues, tryhards and sweats>day2 (Friday): ideal time to play>day3 (Saturday): weekend tryhards and sweats>day4 (Sunday): weekend tryhards and sweats>day5 (Monday): ideal time to playCome on, at this point it's not even game theory, just pattern recognition
>>581057161I don’t know how to scrape VODs but I watched him say it live. He may have said 6/10 but it was 100% either 5 or 6 out of 10. He’s insufferable.
>>581057095thats going to be a bitch to pull off in a realmless server
>>581057112I see thanks again anonI guess i wil lplay the beta iin 2 days and look for the chanhges and general sentiment if it stays that way and roll one then
>>581057164doesn't realmless mean the zone you are in will always be fully saturated with people regardless of time of day or location?
>>581057260Yeah true.Hunter/lock are the best otherwise
any fellow europoors consider rolling on NA? cba dealing with french and shit in general chat on EU
>>581054685>Try to do the big trash skip in Blackmaw Hold>Healer doesn't have the Furbolg Taming Wand from Ashenvale that reduces aggro range for furbolgs by 6 yards>WipeFML
>>581057331Anon...the are no servers
>>581057331With the megaserver my entire EU guild is moving to NA sharding.
>>581054302Make the game openly transphobic, 80% of the problem is gone.
>>581057076>Westfall Stew & The Boar Liver Quest
>>581057331We don't even know how general chat will work. There's no way it's shared between all layers. And layers are language-targeted
If they add new classes to Forever, what's the over/under on a Necromancer
>>581057331Yes, I did it for classic and will do it for forever as well
>>581057243>be euro>game releases at a retarded time like 11pm like always>go to bed at 7pm>wake up at 3am>all the normie tryhards and sweats blew their load too soon and went to bed already>zones are almost empty, easy leveling>by the time normies wake up you're already ahead of the pack
>>581057327
beta is for streamers to hype people with the hidden abilities like SOD its already done they're just building up paypig preorders
>>581057327they will crank up the layering until the population spreads out like they did for other launches
>>581057471too close to warlock, denied
How wanted are shamans for forever?
>>581057471Maybe if they add new trees to existing classes
Okay smart guy. Explain what horizontal progression would look like in YOUR WoW: Forever.
>>581057415There is a region setting though, does that not keep you with only others of your region?
>>581057331i played on EU for a bit during SOD, yeah never playing there ever again
>>581057331my OCE guild wants to move to different too avoid chinese niggers
>>581057471probably non chinese monks first and then necromancer, 100% chance for both id say
>>581057415yes, that’s why EU will be a shitshow. all European countries on one massive fucking server. 10 languages in chat all the time. Not dealing with that shit
Retards there’s still gonna be server regions.
>>581057529I don't need any streamer fags to hype me up. I bought the sex elves already.
>>581057521this is the way.You wait out the streamers, their fans, and the NEETs.Then you play and get your progression going before the next pack of streamers and NEETs wake up/get home
>>581057471i feel like they will do tinker, necro seems unlikely
>>581057689You're retarded if you think it will be that way
i dont want non americans shitting up my server. especially canadians
>>581057615I dont think so, its target for language, they surely have NA-shards/EU shard physical shared servers>>581057689no?>select english and german>report every eastern european that speaks goobliedigooksimple as
>>581057164>being a line cuckI'll just copy paste Portuguese into the chat, and pretend like I don't know English, so all the cucks will accept it.
>>581057243sod launch was seamless day 1 for me on the biggest NA server (crusader strike) and I played from release until like 3 am without a single disconnect. competition was moderate but not overwhelming outside of the literally initial quests which you were smart to simply skip and grind to level 3 or so.you can hate blizzard but I think they have their launch days figured out at this point
>>581057606Tracked and forced ERP participation. Rewards locked behind exclusively homosexual interactions. Rewards are unlocks /fart /huff /spit /slurp emotes and special 3D belts like cuck cage or futa strapon.
I'm willing to give Forever a chance but if they mess up the first few updates and make the same mistakes they made with retail version, I'm done with it.
>>581057862So retail.
>>581057606every day the world map expands in all cardinal directions some distance, creating more space for things to be put down into existing zones instead of stapling new, retard zones everywhere
>>581057643I'd love monk desu. It's the only healer that's actually fun to play. >>581057718I've done it every expansion, hasn't failed me yet. Jumping into a new expansion in the early morning hours with a big pot of coffee ready is PEAK World of Warcraft.
>>581057742works that exact way in any other mega server mmo. and it’s been like that in sod too because there were no regional servers
>>581057606Stat squish 1 notch below Max with each Major content update.Give players entire buffet of old and new content as options on how to get back to max power.
>>581057993>Vertical progression but seasonalYou failed. Next?
>forever is a lot like retailand that's a good thing
>>581057976Yeah but they for sure are going to change how chats work. There would be 50k streamkiddies spamming for asmon layer in every trade and public chatroom otherwise.
>>581057871anon, the roadmap is already public.Or do you mean Y2?
Tauren or Troll Hunter?
>>581057742It's already like that on retail English servers. Half of Argent Dawn EU is random Polish, Swedish, French, German and Dutch. Never going EU again.
>>581058049In BDO you could pick the languages you’d like to see in chat. the system automatically filtered any other languages Worked beautifully
Kind of a gay logo innit? Fancy little flourish on the R, bet you want it in your ass don't you?
>waaaahhhh this is just retail-Turtle/ascension sissies are still fuming
>>581058071kek, only 1 40 man raid until summer.
I will say this and not argue about this point:if they have 40 man raids and they are not puggable this shit gonna die/not much more popular than regular classicaint no way normal people want to sweat through a 40 man raid on a fucking schedule i saw this already on OG classic with naxx
>>581058216>bet you want it in your ass don't you?Kinda, yeah.
>>581057606
Just heard it's the retail AH instead of classic. I don't retail, does this increase or decrease my time spent mailbox dancing?
Will the PvP realm have level segregation for its layers?Because it’s not very pog getting camped by 60’s as a level 20 something
>>581058228ascenion is way more retail compared to this
>>581058181Just wait and see how it works on beta ig
>>581058253Vertical progression but with needlessly low drop rates, not horizontal. Next?
The most racist class/race/faction combination?no chud self inserting, actual lore accurate opinions only
>>581058237Yeah. 40m raids are epic and all, but no one wants to deal with that shit. It's a cunt to organize and it's annoying to play as well. 40m is a good idea in theory, but in reality it just ain't it.
>>581058071These are expected things but beyond that and max level thingsI hope it do not turn to be SoD 2.0
>he still doesn't understand vertical progression
>>581058367Dwarf Paladin
>>581058265I don't know how it works over there exactly but to be honest the AH system in vanilla is objectively terrible and it rewards scammers with the way it prioritizes auctions with 1 copper bid prices
now all we need is gnome hunters and this game will be perfect
>>581056137IT'S NOT ON MY APP AAAMY MCPOINTS
>no one will adopt me as their skelf pocket pump despite how hard I advertise because this is 4chan and you think I’m trollingTragic.
>>581058367Human
>>581058367Horde, female skelf, shaman.Why? Because it's surrounded by smelly niggers. Nothing makes you more racist than proximity.
>can he a human hunter but not an undead huntermake it make sense
>>581058465Honestly all races should be able to play all classes. There's no lore reason that someone from any race could not pick up any class, the opportunity and motive is there.
>>581058181AWS eu-west-2d in London just opened last month, so English will probably more grouped
>>581058375Like i said if they are MC difficulty, as in you can do it with less than 40 people and puggable, i think its fine, and maybe the "hard" raids are the 10 man ones that come laterHowever if they trying to make some sweat raids with 40 people good luck to them cause that shit will be as popular as Mythic raiding retai, especially with all the loot drama
>>581058228Ascension was pretty retail oriented desu
DO NOT ALLOW BLUE ELVES TO SPREAD THEIR LIESDO NOT TRADE WITH BLUE ELVESDO NOT PARTY WITH BLUE ELVESKILL BLUE ELVES ON SIGHT
>>581058484Everyone either already got one or is one, sorry bro.
>Enhances your gaming session Will you be stocking up on various consumables for November 4th?
>>581057606>>581058348>>581055741
>>581058609listen.I paid $30 to be a Skelf.I'm playing a fucking Skelf.
>>581058609LEAVE MY WIFE ALONE!!
>>581058237>>581058375Perfectly valid takes but question: How far is too far? 15 man? 10?
thinkin' bout wowin' forever
>>581058178orc
>>581058545They shouldn't make any raids hard imo. Fags don't want to admit it but a big part of Classic's popularity are the easy raids. Difficult raiding does not belong in Classic+. I don't think it needs to be quite as braindead as MC, but definitely not harder than Naxx.
>>581058629The regular for me. An ounce of hybrid weed and infinite Dr Pepper zero. Chipotle once before 6 hours of sleep and back to it til 60. 24 hour recharge and then go again for prebis farm. 24 hour recharge and then go again for first alt.
>>581057471It's gonna be Bard.
I boughted
>>581058694I do not like her smug aura
>>581058790$15, $30, or $90?
>>581058629hell yeah man
I'm pissing and shitting myself in fear that Blizz will eventually give in to the inevitable reddit bitching and moaning about WoWF not having M+
I’ll never get thunderfury anyway so I might as well just roll a caster
>>581058826its 85 after taxes for the big jew bundle
>>581058782You can tell this guy is one disgusting, obese fuck.
>>581056321what kind of person. i wonder what they're like in real life. it floors me that this version of man exists. i mean, there's free porn on the internet. i wish i understood.
>>581058862I weigh 180 pounds, I’m 6 foot. Pretty average desu
>>581058648Based.t. boughted the sex elves
>>581058629no but it explains this fucking general
I didn't boughted the new race, I'll continue playing dwarf
>>581058845Bro your Atiesh?
FOR GNOMEREGAN!
>>581058842just don’t participate in it then retard.
>>581058694
>>581058694this is what a true warrior of the horde looks like
>>581058778With all the retail features they're porting over I see no reason not to expect mythic raiding or some other hard mode to find its way in
i will be a undead pallyi will roll on all your geari will be ret only i will never buff youi will kill all elves
>>581058820it is an extremely esoteric trailer
>>581058670Its basiacly a sliding thing on how easy it is, like i said, if the raids are MC level then 40 is fine:>>581058545However the harder they get the less people imo for it to work to be it "popular". >>581058778I agree but this is blizzard after all so. I think there for 40 it cant be that much harder than MC imo given at 40 even having 40 mouthbreather being online at the same time becomes a challenge
>>581058904jeet
>>581058629This seems rather unhealthy...
>>581058862>chipotle>dr pepper zero>weedunironically not bad. Could be McDonald’s, Coke, and booze.
>>581058971god the blue elves are so fucking sexy
>>581058778I think you need some challenging raid content if you want horizontal progression to have any meaning. Why would guilds go back to farm previous raids for chase drops if the bosses in the newest raids are just target dummies. It doesn't need to be ICC or Cata level difficulty, but I think Scarlet Enclave was in a pretty good spot for "difficult" classic content
>>581058948miss me with that gay ass looking stick. unless blizzard decides to update its visuals BIGLY…
did this fucker take credit for the recent hype around WoW yet?
>>581059039So is sinking thousands of your finite life into a 20 year old video game
>Horde - Female Skelf Hunter - Hunting Gnomes for scalps, plinking cuck cage keys off of fem humans necklaces but living in mud hutsorAlliance - Female Skelf Hunter - Hunting Orc and Troll niggers for scalps and plinking rotten dicks off of Und-Forsaken?Pros and Cons of each playstyle?
>>581058904>western civilization>philosophy>sciencemid-40 permavirgin who thinks himself smart, most likely posts here too.
>>581059126>addict copeyikes
Personally I'm going to call my orc something like Gorruk Proudmoore and RP as him being the secret lovechild of Jaina and some random orc also he fucks her too
>>581058904probably for watching YouTube on the TV.
>>581057606Class Set bonuses now unlock now utility options and ways to play your class. Like Dragonstalker from BWL lets hunters tame dragonkin.
>>581058971braindead sex toy skelf
>>581059125shut your mouth, you may not know this, but he used to work at blizzard for 7 years and he was the first 2nd generation blizzard employee
>>581059125Will he play Forever Hardcore..?
any new titles yet?
>>581059213but that's incest
>>581059307Solo, maybe
>>581059125That guy's still alive? I assumed he faded into obscurity and ultimately killed himself.
>>581058976>With all the retail features they're porting over I see no reason not to expect mythic raiding or some other hard mode to find its way inEh I don't know. I feel like it's 50/50. They seem to at least listen to the content creaters, and those seem pretty divided on the issue from what I've gathered. Hard mode stuff would be fine if it didn't award better gear imo. You could get titles, cosmetics, that kind of stuff. Hard content is fun to progress, but it becomes a fucking slog when you've already beaten it.
was he right?
i don't like that if i pay 30$ i get the privilege to reserve my name early.that's really fuckin gay.
Shamanbros how we feeling?
>>581056321>”I’m sexually attracted to Smurfs”HAAH WAAW
>>581059125This retard would make bank if he didn't have that hardcore drama. It's the second coming of Classic Hype
>>581059363You have to have some kind of sense of shame to off yourself
>>581059465too many buttons
>>581052398assassination rogue
>>581059465I've never played one in classic but I'm tempted to try out elemental
>>581059461With last names it really shouldn’t matter unless you want some meme name like chuck norris
>>581059465not too good. if i get asked to tank the dungeon, im pulling the ethernet cord and leaving my house
>>581058782prob a bunch of pre made salads. salmon+whatever. steak and egg+greens. shit like that. can't eat like garbage and game for hours on end like in my youth.
>>581059456given the popularity boom of the original classic release, and the new popularity boom of forever...he was dead wrong
>>581059125>>581059307He claims Wow:Forever is a monetization scam, (and Classic isn't). Then loses his shit when people disagree with him https://files.catbox.moe/bgvrq3.mp4
>>581054661>not being a good father and enjoying vidya with your kids when they get olderngmi
>>581052398/kick from the group. Never suffer a a sky elf.
>>581059456conceptually he was right, financially he was a retard
>>581059601it's the principle of the thing. imagine if you could pay 10$ to "reserve a name" in 2019 classic. nuts.
>>581059353And?
>>581059616That’s all too much time during the crunch. I live across the street from chipotle I can place an order, walk, and be back in 5 minutes. Your pan isn’t even hot for the steak by then.
>>581059456He was right. Forever isn't Vanilla. What he kept talking about was all the annoyances in Vanilla that Forever seems to remove.
I will say I don't understand why the Sky Elves can't be priests.
>>581059684>people will be paying for race changes to beat ragnarosoh wow
>>581058367Night Elf Druid or Warrior.
>>581059307It's kind of funny that he's almost on asmon's level of nobody wanting to interact with him and all that just because he couldn't say "Oops, I played it bad there and might have contributed to people dying"
So will rdruids finally be using hots or still spamming healing touch?
>>581059748no pre made ones. there's some nicer grocery stores around me i can go buy some pre made ones. anywhere from $5-8$ each get a few days worth and maybe a chip and i'm chillin
>>581059684>he thinks it just looks like retail 2jej
>>581059764They probably didn't want to balance 2 new sets of class racials with the gnomes getting priest
>>581059867HoTs are very much in play. They're looking pretty good.
>>581059867yes
>>581059764They were separated from Elune and isolated from almost everything else.What I want to know is why they can still be hunters while being so isolated to a single type of biome.
>>581059456He was mostly right. If Vanilla Classic released as it was in 2004, it would've been terrible.
>>581059684>actually has a based take for once and calling it out as retail shit>stuck arguing with retarded niggers here about how its actually not retailweird timeline.
>>581059456>You thinkWrong Streamer does that for me
>>581055159>too many faggots in this oneYeah, like people who have "tranime" in their lexicon
>>581059924actually sat through it and of course he argues with someone immediately. also mentioned power fantasy shit. where. actual retard. what's his mana like though
Will downranking heals still be required?
>>581059684Jesus Christ this guy is such a miserable fucking loser. >they're going to sell you race changes so you can kill RagnarosPeople are already going to do that within an hour if the raid opening you stupid, voice-faking nigger.
Will the barbers in FRVR give you a free sex change like they do on retail?
>>581060115waaaay too sweaty even thinking of that bro
>>581059684his entire take is about the racial passive of the blue elf, has he even seen the state of retail
I WANNA PLAY THE FUCKING BETA
>>581059684LMAO HAHAHAHAThe next time you see a random anon calling Forever "retail 2" remember that THIS FAGGOT has the same opinion ROFL
>>581060160yes if you want one
>>581059684I don’t really agree with the p2w on elementals shit, especially because that’s only 1 type of enemy. Dwarves and trolls get bonus damage to beasts and I think another race got something in that flavor too. Trolls had this in classic and it was largely seen as not worth optimizing for because not everything is a beast. Same thing will apply for elementals, his panties are just in a bunch because Rag happens to be an elemental. Plus most people hate the sky elves and there’s been no mention of even selling a race change. I don’t think that’s going to be a real issue. It was cute watching him almost form a coherent point though to cope with the fact that no one in the entire WoW community will willingly play with him.
>>581055159>time to reheat the generalThen fucking make it. I keep seeing you faggots say this shit, and every time you're told to make one yourselves you just stay here and keep whining. Make the thread you fucking pussy. Make it and watch visually all of the discussion be about Forever anyway. Fucking do it pussy.
>its p2w when some races are better than otherswow you mean just like how wow was for 20 years?
I was told by someone the first day WC3 Forsaken Kingdom came out that they censored the sorceress and added a shirt to her. They even posted a picture. I just unlocked the sorceress in the new campaign and she isn't censored. It's ridiculous what sort of trouble people will go through to lie nowadays.
>>581059456It's been THIRTEEN years and he gets blown the fuck out every year even more than the last.Crazy.
>>581059764Blizzard winking and nudging at me again with their esoteric symbolism basically. First the Trailer with the Orbs.Then the Sky Elves themselves.Then the Sky Elf Dance.Now this.I expect the Lore of WoW Forever to develop into the Sky Elves puppeteering Azeroth as their game.
>>581060160>https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/2099540369365176803Certainly looks like it, there's the male and female options at the top
>>581060195>has he even seen the state of retailNo of course not. If he actually knew anything about retail he wouldn't be calling forever "retail 2"
>>581056236Nope. Vareesa and the Silver Covenant are high elves.>>581057096>belves are horde, always was, always will be.Horde can keep belves, Alliance should have high elves.
I hope we are all going to have fun in forever :)
>>581057521>First classic release>Friends sit in a que for hours>Get in and fight over mob spawns>Play till 5am>I don't bother to que, just go to sleep>I wake 6am>Login, no que>Steady mod killing>Friends wake 10am tired but ready to race to 60>I'm already far past themsometimes it pays to be tradie with normie sleep schedule.
>>581060195Skelf racials are so bad that I'm almost certain that the +5% damage to elementals won't even make them do more damage to eles than races that actually have a burst skill as a racial, like berserking
is forever sod but bad?
>>581060417>in a que
>thinking people will race change just to poooorse on fucking RagnarosAh yes, vanilla Ragnaros—famous for his difficulty! How retarded can one manbaby be?
Blizzard you finally have the opportunity to right your greatest wrong. Horde Draenei here we come
>>581060435sod is forever but bad
>>581060337They literally redid the models AGAIN to save them from blizzard retardation.
>>581060374Wait that's awesome. I can choose between being a chad and making my toon look sexo on a whim? Unbelievably fucking based.
>>581060241Truest true all day. Imagine being on the same side as this fucking loser and Nixxiom. Bleak.
Did they mention anything about GDKP?
>>581059456No. In fact he was so incorrect that we ended up gutting the current game to make vanilla 2.0
>>581060557Yep they said it was BANNEDDDDDDDDd
>>581060337Shitting on Blizzard in a mainstream comfortable edgy position to take so when they do good things it's immediately met with 15 years of nerd butthurt.
>>581060557its banned
Weird thing is, those orbs have not been explained yet. I anticipate that they're going to frame the Sky Elves as being behind this entire thing, as puppeteers.
>>581056846Just mirror the tauren racial"Unearth: Reveal a number of ore fragments. You do not need the Mining skill to harvest these fragments."
>tfw got a beta code through the mcdonalds appfat cunts rejoice
>>581060374This is the future liberals want
>Dali seethingForever is so based
>>581060486Old raids will be reworked.
>>581060632
I'm currently at work so I can't phone post lust provoking pictures of draebaes, but I just want to inform you all that I want sexy blue space goats to forever wow
Honestly going to be rough to just throw away all of those good looking races from Retail WoW.
>>581060557it's ""banned""the only thing that changes is move the advertisement for it off world chat
wow forever needs THISbut skelf
>play the new WC3 campaign>very mediocre>still the best new content blizzard has made in 20 years
its way too difficult to pick a class to play... and why the fuck are they capping the beta at lvl 20 for the first little while, what even is there to try at that point except the lordaeron/ironforge dungeon and smurf starting zone?
>>581060887literally just fucking multi-colored elves
>>581060918hillsbrad
ELVESELVES IN WARCRAFT
>>581060775wonder if i can keep claiming keys and just post them here. i dont go to maccas anymore but im happy to burn the rest of my points for the boys
>>581060932Space goats are pretty sexi though.
Your skelf wife spends way too much time learning shamanism from that trollman in his hut.
>>581056961same way I did in classic and vanilla, zoomer
>>581059465Meh.Enchance might be funner in pvp provided they don't have the same problem ret used to have where your BL is immediately dispelled. In raids you'll still be regulated to healing unless you suck up to the GM.Ele is looking more balanced so no more CL+ES wombo combo. The hybrid hybrid meme build where you weave in ES could be fun but I don't think it has legs.
>>581054860We will be stunning worgen left and right 4 years from now in WoW Forever Cataclysm
>>581060632they know their audience
>”Does my beta character get transferred to live when it starts?”If you see a tourist asking some shit like this kindly tell them to fuck off and die
>>581060789They really bring out the welshman in me
>>581059928Wow, pretty easy solution is just not making Gnome Priests!
>>581061109tell em it does so they dump tons of hours into it
>>581061128The easy solutions lead to a worse game
Is WoW forever different from retail WoW? I only played a little before shadowlands came out and didn't like it.
There’s gonna be a NA vg guild that HASNT been around for 7 years and all they do is lore circlejerk about grobbulus right? Haha
>>581060606>>581060625That and world buffs not working in raids already makes Forever way better than any version of vanilla.
>>581061176its sod 2 retail remix, phases included
>>581061176yeah its classic but with quality of life changes and new shit way better than retail
>>581061176yes. it's vanilla wow but with some graphical improvemnts to the engine, you can use the classic models if you'd like as well. many new quests dungeons raids items all in the spirit of classic. would definitely recommend the blizzcon deep dives
>>581061176yes, it will actually feel like an RPG compared to retail
>>581061026Just don't get into a poopsocking guild and you'll be able to play whatever you want, it's literally that simple.
>>581060997just say you're gay bro, itd take less words
>>581061176It's different in a lot of ways. The classes are a lot less homoginzed. This is the base vanilla wow expansion but improved with various changes to class talents and the world itself.
>>581059461I wanna know which words are gonna be blocked. Like will you be able to use The or Sir or Lord?
>>581061205GDKP is a classic thing not vanilla. But yeah. Same with world buffs for the most.
Smite priest looks like it could be possible based on the talents.Shame I can't be a fucking elf prest like warcraft 3 though.
>>581060909>THISAI slop?I think there is already enough of that out there for skelfs
>I told you, keep your feet on the ground!
>>581061026>In raids you'll still be regulated to healing unless you suck up to the GM.Why are you playing with the kind of faggots who would do this?
>>581061302anyone with "king" or "queen" as first name is black irl
>>581061278For human men.
>>581060337I was watching Grubby play and they definitely had shirts on. Maybe it depends on faction/area.
Any images of Skelf druid forms?
>>581061218>>581061219>>581061261>>581061272wait so is it like a reboot of the story from before they apparently made it bad or it's just new/returning endgame content for the current vanilla servers?
I can't decide what to play. I'll probably just make 12 alts again and never hit max level
does this mean us and eu people can play together now? i want to play with wtii and become his #1 friend
>retail slop>call it classic>forever
>>581060887You don't have to worry for long as they are going to be added all over again for 30$ each race
Why are people so desperate to recapture the same feeling they had 20 years ago? Don't they realize it's almost impossible?
>>581060557Banned in the same way that weed and prostitution are banned.
>>581061459the good news is max level is 60 and capped at 60.So you'll eventually get there
>>581061459female elf hunter
>>581061278I wish they really looked like this. Instead it’s botoxified blood elves with blue skin.
>>581061340Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. They tell you to pretend like you're a High Elf with the High Order Sky Elf, but then don't let you be a priest which is the main priest archetype of high elves in WC3. They also just added a High Elf Priest character to the new WC3 campaign, so it's clearly something they're pushing. Maybe it's a sign they'll give us Blood Elves/High Elves after all? Keep some differentiation between the elf races when they come out.
>>581061436new dungeons and some new raids, extra questsits still a raidlog came at the end of the day, and the balance will shift with meme item affixes on gear so parsetrooning is deadit also has mogs mounts and cheevos
>>581061513>why do people enjoy fun game?Not that serious bro
>>581061521ridiculous.>no you can't play how you want to play, you have to play how we want you to play.
>>581061428https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/skyborne-druid-forms-in-wow-forever-382861
>retail regeneration>no server tickwhat the fuck? this doesn't feel like classic at all
>>581061513Osrs did it
>>581061436yeah this is them soft rebooting world of warcraft
>>581061513Because they have nothing in life that gives them joy. The only thing they can derive meaning from is showing up to their 500th MC clear to PVMP and the second you take that away you basically take away who they are entirely. The ensuing result is meltdowns the likes of which we’ve been seeing for nearly 3 days now.
>>581061459you have to hit max on all classes anyway
>>581061513Nostalrius did it
WAIT ITS ACTUALLY FUCKING REAL?
>>581061459I also want to play many different charactors...
Alliance can have High Elves if gn*m*s become unplayable
>>581061594Ugly af thanks anon
>>581061594>bird>bird>birdHow very exciting
>>581061513classic did it, during leveling. which is the best part of vanilla. I hope it takes longer in forever
>>581061176>all these retards chiming in as if they have played the gameNobody knows but what I do know is this amount of hype will crash and burn and this is nu-Blizz. The odds of it being shit are 9/10
Female gnome disc on PvP cluster
>>581061708nah your subconscious leaked again. go back to the garden
>>581061708>forgot image like a tard
>>581061436kind'of. its a story reboot in the sense that it has the same starting point as 2004 WoW but they're just adding things to that that story on the side instead of moving to different continents and shit like normal WoW did.it will live alongside vanilla servers and the mainline game. Alternate timeline basically
so we're all aware this is retail slop, right? just gonna delude ourselves and pretend it isn't for the sake of FRESH?
>>581061831what points?
>punished for not being a fatass
>>581061608lol autists for real complaining about server tick>muh skill expression >muh imaginary dps increase
>>581061774>Classic did it during levelingYeah everyone was so excited for the classic leveling experience and to go out in the world and meet other players that they formed 40 man scarlet monastery raids to exploit the exp and not interact with any of that. SOVL.
>>581061708sadly, it's an out of season April Fools prank.They'll announce it on Thursday
>>581061879You don't seem to understand how it even works, so why type?
Is this the biggest buttmaddery ever seen over these blue elves? I've never seen something so universally hated in this game. Even the people defending it are just like, "I guess it's okay," or, "Don't buy it if you don't like it." That's the camp I fall into, and I did buy it, but the forums and everywhere I look are just filled with pure seething.
>>581061847
>>581061869Marcdonalds
>>581061869rupees
I don't eat maccas
>>581061885I didnt do that though. only zoomer and people that watch retarded streamer did.they got to sit in their capital early while I could enjoy the open world and adventure.good times.
CALLING ALL FAT NIGGAS IN AUSTRALIAWE NEED KEYS
>>581061961Retail faggots mad cause they’re the sideshow now. Era faggots mad cause they’re gonna have to learn something new. The weirdly maga part of the community has their panties in a bunch over a laughing bear and blue elves. Anyone who isn’t in those 3 camps is hyped.
>>581061708yes it is, ive claimed mine and it works
so when do you think we will get>World of WarCraft: Classic ++Without all the r*tail shit in it.
>>581061961There's people who are just really buttmad that elves are popular. That's all.
>>581061274Yeah and Ony will take 3 hours
>>581062139>Retail faggots mad cause they’re the sideshow now.this is the new retail, idiot
>>581062134aww, macca's is such a cute way of saying mcdonald's. i love that kind of adorable regional stuff
Don't you all understand that by playing this game that what you're trying to do is capture the same feeling you got twenty years ago when life was more simple and less confusing you aren't going to be able to go back to those days just by playing the same game over and over again you're just simply trying to escape into the past by consuming the same product you consumed in those times but times have changed and we have changed and therefore must move forward in time and move on to different games accordingly due to the fact that it's been twenty years?
>>581062134>claimed one>it now says "limit met"
>>581062078>ESLWrong and brown
>>581061513It's going to be different this time.
If it were up to me all elves would be their own faction because it will never make sense that someone who's hundreds of years old would take orders from a human or orc that are barely in their 30s or whatever.
>>581062243Your cope has no power here toileter
it's going to be real easy to tell retoilets from chads in this game and im all for it.
>>581062417As a classic chad I feel seen and it is everything.
>>581061513What is this type of post supposed to contribute? Unless you object to WoW Forever as a concept, you aren't even saying anything.
>>581061961nobody can defend it. Nobody asked for this besides China.Retailers are mad because they dont have them and its the first time when theyre genuinely sidelined. Classic players are spergs anyway (see the mental breakdown theyre having over unitframes that can be instantly changed via an addon)If they just added normal elves it would've been fine and much less of an outrage..but they had to make them fluorescent blue in the announcement trailer.I bought them for the zergling pet and the beta access
this is it boys, when we get to claim our names ill finally get my real name after all these years
Now that intial Blizzcon-hype is over, here comes the post-Blizzcon bad newsHotS:>The first ever hard-paywalled hero
Why don't you guys just play retail wow if you want a game that has actually been worked on an improved from twenty years instead of feeding off of nostalgia forever and live in the present like a well adjusted human being with the limited time you have on earth?
Hunters are looking good imo. Whats the best race for them now?
Me? Larping as a high elf. Playing warrior. Killing no shoes niggers on sight.
>>581062417>transmog off>retail animations off>updated textures on>human warrior
>>581062559isn't hots already on life-support?
>>581062559we must buy and support hots! let us show blizzard we care about the game and it's devs and their families!!
>retail ui>retail frames>retail models (“classic” models are wrong)>retail regeneration mechanics (no server ticks)>retail animations >transmogs (hidden vendor somewhere ??? to try and toggle it off)>blueberry avatar last air bender cloud elves never mentioned in the LORE cash shop race >store mounts >8363813681732 layers >adding ray tracing to a 20 year old game during a global hardware crisis >all reagents removed>everyone can create a camp anywhere in the world with an NPC vendor with repair that spawns next to you >portals to all capital cities inside each capital city making travelling the world obsolete >store pets >class balance bricked >faction immersion bricked with undead pala and dwarf shaman >orcs are now magically mages>bricked racials>paladins now one shot everyone and are best dps, best healers and best tanks all at once
>>581061278ftfy
The following is r*tailoid trash and should be purged from anything classic>easy leveling and level boosts>hard dungeons / raids>transmog>parsing>addons>duel spec>dallies>RMT shops>alien humanoid looking creates that take away from fantasy aspects
>>581062523I think it's pretty delusional to think those assets aren't making it into retail eventually. Even if it takes years.
>>581062617Apparently they revived it for Xal'atath.
>>581062342I always thought Nelfs and Undead were the odd ones out in their respective factions. Would've been cool to have them as two separate factions but I understand it would split the playerbase up too much
>>581060357I still haven't met any elves you lying faggot.
Leatherworking or alchemy for shamans?
i play wow because i think its fun
>>581062281>life was more simple and less confusingThe more I reminisce, the more I realize it's been the same. The only difference is I thought something would change for the better.
We need to do a poll for alliance vs horde, I wonder which faction most of this general will roll
Playing Sky Elf simply because I want to tank and I don't want to play warrior for the 5th time nor do I wanna play paladin because everyone is gonna play it.So I tank as druid and I'm not rolling a fucking nightelf or tauren.
skelfs are really just high elves didnt you watch blizzcon? some nigga was chasing them and they hid in the clouds
I'm angry about elves
>>581062559This is probably the new model going forwards. TLT will be cheaper if you just want the zones dungeons and raid but Ice Elves will cost $20 and Tinker class will be another $25 (unless you want to save money on the limited time bundle of course)
>>581062729Ibuki I hope you finished your chores before playing wow! Go leatherworking they're updating it to have more mail BiS craftables
>>581062651i'm a lorelet, what's the reason orcs can't be mages?
You can't go back to the past. They are never going to bring back the old game. They are never going to bring back the old website. The forums are dead. The game is dead. We are all going to die one day.
>>581062559>legendary hero>$8I’m glad no one gives a fuck about this game cause that has p2w written all over it.
>>581062748>undead paladin>equivocally blood elvessure seems like a Horde board
>>581062559
>>581062313correct and white though, murritard
>>581062559microslop wants all the money they can squeeze out of blizz, because they are flushing all their revenue down the AI toilet.
>>581062715While I agree about the Forsaken I can also see the vision because the main defining trait of the Horde in WC3 and Vanilla is the "bullied underdog monsters".
>>581062850Okay
>>581062850I don't die. I'm the Black Sun.
Will i finally get a fat evil santa Christmas Holiday Boss that throws exploding wrapped presence and impales players on sharp candy canes whilst wearing his jolly red suit, accompanied by nutcracker riflemen & frosted gingerbread men? >Same greench cave, you get 1 toy added to the vendor each yearI bet they stuff this up and do absolutely nothing fun. Even Halloween could have vampire jeepers creepers 10 man raid with witches cauldrons & flaming scarecrows / blood soaked ravens. Instead we'll get..>New skyborne elves face maskSurely a brewfest green leprechaun with lucky four leaf clovers and pots of gol->Grim guzzlerAbsolute dumbasses. We never get anything good
Absolute peak display of retardation in these comments holyhttps://x.com/mrgmyt/status/2099139797524902295?s=46https://x.com/mrgmyt/status/2099139797524902295?s=46https://x.com/mrgmyt/status/2099139797524902295?s=46
the reality is 90% of this general is now retail faggots
>>581062842Mostly flavor. Orcs in WC3 were fighters, hunters or shamans. Warlocks kind of makes sense with the whole felorc arc some of them went through but mage is a bit weird because it's like a scholar class that gained magic power through studying and orcs don't really study except for nature maybe
>>581062916It is okay to move on. To be free.
>>581063004/b/ackup is on the way!
>>581061961>Hey you know how you've been asking for Classic+?>Well we're doing Classic+>Only the + is donutsteel elves>No you don't get blood/high elves like you've been asking for forever, fuck you>$30 btw>>581062139I think it's more that they took the OG trailer and took all the grit and fighting out and replaced it with cute frolicking which absolutely reeks of nuBlizz "I regret calling it WARcraft" assfaggotry
>>581062881>start adding overslop heroes>game immediately dies
>>581063070Who this this for
Blood elves, goblins and draenei (pre-TBC retcon) should all be playable neutrals that both factions can play.
>>581063060i see, makes sense from that point of view, thanks
>>581063101The cinematic trailer was amazing. Actually profound and rife with spiritual symbolism.
>>581063020Why do you believe that? Retail caters to mount and transmog collectors or people obsessed with difficulty. Forever has neither of those and they’d also lose everything they’ve farmed/paid for. They’re not going to come here unless they’re taking a tourist break from heroic raid farm with their soccer mom guild. They’ll never even make it to 60.
>>581062681im sure it will. probably after their "saga": shit that literally nobody cares about despite being "culmination of 25 years of story telling" since most current retail players jumped much much later into the game, and the few that didnt are too old to even remember what it was about.They're still mad theyre not to main focus of attention anymore. They were barely mentioned during blizzcon and the only thing they got was some transmog restrictions removed or something. nuBlizz didnt even give them the new render updates lmao.
>>581062831nyuhhh i dont wanna
>>581063105They we given marching orders to turn the game into an esport and and a result drowned it in shitty knockoff LoL champs. Course correction came too late when they started adding novelty hero's like Deathwing again.
>>581052450Is there some tech issue to add rain?
>>581063101>completely ignores the part with the dwarf shooting the undead and the bear mauling itNot today, faggot.
>>581063181I know that lore-wise Goblins make sense as neutral. But they're such a symmetrical 'Horde Gnome' that they just gotta be Horde.It matches too well. But honestly, it does not make sense why Goblins would take any side. They're all about business.
i watched the whole panel and i still dont get it:How can this be earlier in the timeline then og vanilla if the quests are mostly the same?Also they say it will diverge from the main timeline, doesnt that mean everythingis possible now?
>>581063020this was my revelation in 2019 classicI thought it would be like the private server scene plus oldheads returning, but it was just spellcleave zoom zooms hopping over from retail to see what the fuss was about
>>581063245based (i am a cuck)
>>581063314It's blizzard, shit is half-heartedly slopped together so they can say "Look, retail is way better story wise"
>>581063202Retail is raiding is literally designed around 2 guilds of hyper autists killing the end boss for 2 weeks while the rest of the playerbase takes 4-5 months to kill it after 15% damage and healing buff and 20 more ilvls. Literally no one gives a fuck about mythic raiding.
>>581063201This game is actually likely going to be hard at the endgame
>>581062850go back brownie
>>581063314>How can this be earlier in the timeline then og vanilla if the quests are mostly the same?Basically imagine day 1 of vanilla wow, no molten core being prepared, no nefarian stuff, etc.>Also they say it will diverge from the main timeline, doesnt that mean everythingis possible now?Yes, the point it's that it's a completely new continuity, it's wow 2 in all but name.
>>581063303The horde pays more
Need a /wowfg/ gf (male) to play the beta with me
I'm kind of excited for future content.I can't wait to go to the ghostlands and see how the blood elves are barely surviving after nearly going extinct
>>581063393Back to the past? Samurai jack?
>>581059684>sperging about "monetization"I feel like I'm the only person who remembers that expansions used to cost money. Not just a subscription fee. Money. You had to pay $39.99 for:>new zones>new dungeons and raids>new quests>new items>new races and / or classesThe only thing you're paying for with Forever is high elves. They're monetizing the demographic that WoW players hate the most: elf players. Everything else - the actual content of Forever - only requires a subscription.Classic was also "free", but there was no new content. Why the fuck are people so butthurt that they don't have to pay for what is basically a vanilla expansion?
>>581063101I rolled my eyes when he did the little salute to the wisp. Undead should be torturing farmers, trolls should be cooking people in pots and dwarves ought to be blasting open other race's burial grounds to look for titan relics. Fuck this peacecraft crap.
Fuck me man the HD models with old animations already look so good and it's just a fucking dwarf running without bouncing like a car with fucked struts.If this is even half as good as I think it'll look they have to backport this back to retoilet somehow as an option. So many HD models suffer from ridiculously goofy shit going on in their movements, and if it touches facial animations too? Holy fuck.
>>581061513Its also archaic garbage and desperately needs changes so its not a miserable experience. WoW Forever is a great middle ground of a simpler game but also your dps rotation and the boss mechanics aren't like doing calculus. I don't like retail and haven't played since early SL
>>581063303>I know that lore-wise Goblins make sense as neutralGoblins were always horde until recently (in vanilla wow terms of recent), and then immediately went horde when needed.Humans and gnomes would never accept goblins, they;re mortal enemies which is why any race like Naga or even Blood Elf would HAVE to be horde because of the problems with humans and night elves.
>>581062669>>easy levelingI think you meant to say fast leveling. leveling was always easy.
>>581063101>cute frolickingThis keeps coming up and I don't get it, did you literally stop watching the trailer halfway through? There's still a fight between him and the undead pally and seeing hints of what we'll actually see in game like Dalaran is cool. The bear could've been a bit less Disney but it's not that bad.
>>581063384Based on what? Your feelings? Cause the devs themselves came out and said they want the difficulty to be low. “Preparation and planning” is the difficulty, straight from the horse’s mouth. It’s gonna be BWL-tier difficulty at worst. They want you to show up with all your consooms and whatever they replace world buffs with and that’ll be enough. That’s the formula that had more raiders than any other tier they’ve done and it’s the formula they literally announced on a stage they’re sticking to with WoW Forever.
>>581063465You can already do that on a TBC era server
>>581063060I could see them being fire mages at least, it feels like a more primal form of magic. Maybe the Blackrock clan worked it out or it's a 'cleaner' offshoot of destro or maybe even they learned it from the red dragonflight
>>581063525You underestimate how retarded the wow player base can be.
>>581061513I don't give a shit about a "feeling", I want to play a god tier game with endless potential, fuck outta here retoilet.
>>581061584>NOOOOOOOO I should be allowed to ruin the game againGet a job makmud, mashalla
>>581063474to play the shitty games that suck ass
There were the speculated races they would add in wow in December 2005>ughhhh what could have been.
>>581063402>Basically imagine day 1 of vanilla wow, no molten core being prepared, no nefarian stuff, etc.im not a huge lore nerd, i just played og vanilla back then once reading all quest text:Isnt alot of stuff that happens in vanilla time senseitve, like the uprising of the stone masons, defias bortherhood, onyxia reveal and so on?So are those quests than removed? because if not isnt it kinda dumb or am mistaking something>Yes, the point it's that it's a completely new continuity, it's wow 2 in all but name.well at least thats good news
I want a slower leveling challenge mode. I feel like I'm going to outlevel all the new quests and stuff.
>>581062749same, if I play horde, I'll play an sky elf. If I bother to play a druid, it''ll be a sky elf.otherwise I might play one to 12 just to experience the zone and then dump it.
>>581062651>paladins now one shot everyone and are best dps, best healers and best tanks all at onceWhose laughing at my dress now
>>581063245>>581063339
>>581063652>murloc : unlikely:(
>>581063480>guys stop complaining about paywalling races>they used to paywall entire expansions full of several hundred hours of content for $10 more. be grateful for what you get!
>>581063606I really don’t think I do. I watched people fall off patch after patch with each bump in difficulty from MC to Ruby Sanctum. Classic players either can’t handle or don’t want high difficulty raid content. It’s been proven countless times in the amount of raiders shown across these tiers. They’re fucking retards, that’s who we’re designing around.
>>581063480>"good old" wotlk days>decide to play worlo>had to buy base game>had to buy BC>had to buy Wotlkyup, those were the days. triple fleeced on top of monthly sub.
>>581063480>Everything else - the actual content of Forever - only requires a subscription.This is just the beginning though it's inevitable they inject this full of paid features. I reckon if all goes well , we will actually see paid playable ogres
>>581063751Am I supposed to disagree with your straw man?
>>581062651>portals to all capital cities inside each capital city making traveling the world obsolete This makes sense lore wiseWhy the hell wouldn't they have portals chilling in every major city when the world is grand fantasy genre wise?Magic is everywhereI support it, you still have reasons to go into the world itself and explore and dungeons to run to
>>581063678I voted No.
>>581063682Don't worry, all challenges have been copied over from twow and ascension :)
>>581063564nah, they're recovering by TBC. I mean ACTUALLY see those smug fucks going mad and the alliance sending an olive branch to try and help them and then they sperm about sky elves or whatever
>>581063652OH NONONONONONONONONONO
