Previous >>581064731>What is WoW: Forever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
>>581073394
Which is better?
The Image Togglers Dont Want You To See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z29Rk8814w
Wrath Remix Hype!
>alliancecucks doing the horde onyxia chain for the first time
I miss calling anons brown during Epochs launches...
>>581074009Haha epic! Stealing this for Reddit :p
This makes the doomposters seethe
>You'll own nothing and be happy
>>581073973Depends, better for what?
>>581074009they will have a live gps tracking rexxar
>>581073917they are still gonna add blood elves in forever lol. Quelthelas is on the vanilla map
>>581074068These are both PvP builds
>>581074068raping the ret player phenotype
It's kind of bizarre that there are literally no talents that actually do anything for drain hope. I do wonder what animation they're going to pick for it but fully going away from the sb spam for affliction is kind of cool, and I'm glad we didn't just get tbc ua. Heavy aoe is definitely going to be a problem though.https://talentsforever.com/warlock/60/05550321135001351-0050203001000000000-0000000000000000
>>581074052I'll never be this happy...
>>581074045>retail players who wouldn’t touch Classic are excited for Forever>somehow this is a good sign
>>581074052I'll own that cute blue pussy you sassy slut.
>beta doesn't require an active subscription
>>581074176You're not getting in without paying up which includes a month of subtime.
>>581074119will drain hope be a completely separate spell from drain soul?
I'm gonna have a blast.
>>581074134Because it's new content.Plenty of people play retail because there's new stuff to do instead of doing the same shit for 20 years.
>>581074108im still struggling to understand how this math works out, there's like 6 crafting professions, how the fuck are they going to force in a hundred extra recipes for each
>>581074176>poor
>>581074134he says in his post that he loved vanilla and never mentions not playing classic. the context of the post is about how forever could be a valid replacement for retail. please read
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg
>>581074208That subtime doesn't activate until November 4th
Dwarf shaman guy from yesterday, what do you guys think of this build?https://talentsforever.com/shaman/60/5500301500100000-000000000000000000-5530503010313101
>>581074087https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWcZShT4cI
IF THEY SET THOSE BLUE SEX ELVES FREE IT'LL BE THE END OF ALL OF USNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I've missed most of the /wowfg/ threads because they all went so fast. Can someone give me the gist of the conversations that have been happening on here so far? What are people talking about and is there much skelf porn? Thanks
>>581074208Unless you get a key from somewhere else.
>>581073917>hunter in forever>20% lone wolf>already 1500 aimed crits>1200 multi crits>in dungeon blues>still can't earn a dps spot in raidsIt's fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. In the 6 seconds(gcd+4 second cast +2 second travel time) it takes a hunter to dish out an 1800-2k aimed, if it crits, the warrior hits the boss 8 times for a combined 4-5k. The Hunter didn't need more burst damage. The Hunter needed DPS through synergy and scalability. A good start would have been making the pet immune to all AOE effects. That's an easy 250dps right there. Maybe boost pet damage by a flat 10%. But the Hunter did not need more burst. In a raid there is room for tanks, heal, dps and utility. How many utility spots do we have? One per class. If blizzard don't finally wake up hunters are going to end up where druids were. One single fucking spot. What are they going to do? More encounters that need a 4 hunter tranq rota?
>>581074243>it’s just new content anon that’s all>picrel is a retoileter talking about how he’s finally feeling seen with WoW foreverI don’t think it’s “just new content”
>>581074249anon tailoring only has TWO recipes for bracers across the entire lifespan of the game, one is a level 5 white-quality item, and the other is a fire-resistance piece for molten core. that's an easy +20 items right there
>>581074282wtf are you trying to do?
>>581074225Yes, it does not say it replaces it and you have talents that specifically refer to both. So It's going to be your sb replacement while drain soul is probably going to be the execute below 20%.
>>581074282This is going to be my levelling build
>>581074308summary of discussionPRIVATE SERVERS LOSTRETOILET LOSTNILLAKEKS LOSTFOREVERCHADS WONNED B I G L Y
>>581074308yesterday: how the wc3 characters arent ruined yet in forevertoday : talent build quesions, and random arguments about the betathats pretty much it
>>581074308blizz cooked w
>>581074308>>581069537expect a folder of skelves on release day
>>581074405/thread DOOMPOSTER SISSIES OUT
>>581074358level as healer and not have it take forever, is it not worth even touching the healer tree while leveling?
>edgemasters is now just +1 weapon skillOOOOOOOOOOOF
>>581073917All my trans xisters will be playing as skyborne!Trans rights!!!
>>581074386>missing out on free instant cast lightning bolts>has SP talentsretard
>>581074453Do this if you want to heal/levelYou don't need riptide for healing dungeons
I can’t decide if I should go either pve or pvpI have never played on a pve realm. I am not unemployed anymore so can’t poopsock which means I would fall behind on PvP, get camped/ganked a lot etc.
+16% damage +41% crit chance +30% crit damage bonus on backstab from talents and racials as a dwarf using dagger and macei think im gonna cum
i WILL get invited to the asmon layer
>>581074176No time for dat Shunguang
>>581074482this so much this i toggled my dick off in excitement!
>>581074453What are you going to heal? Dungeons are a one and done kind of deal with XP nerfs, you'll spent 90% of your time in the world.
>>581074496thx anon
>>581074497PVE server is boring because you will have to watch as the opposite faction is killing your quest mobs.
>>581074489Why do I need lightning balls when I'm going to be stormstriking every GCD?
>>581074095>>581074112Probably second one, paladins are weak to kiting
>>581074570because you don't have 100% chance to dodge and parry especially in dungeons when nothing is hitting youhow mega retarded are you
>>581074308>Private serfs melting down because it looks good>Positive reaction to 90% of additions except paywalled races >Organized discord shartjak raids>General hype and (((we're back))) boomerisms
>>581074607I loved Lemix but why the fuck would I want to play Wrath again?
>>581074108Hardcore Realm recipesEngineering>Hyper-Accelerated Dwelling Departer>Use: Causes your hearthstone use to become nearly instantaneous, but also increases it's subsequent cooldown by 5 hoursTailoring>Eerie Voodoo Doll>When held in the inventory, this doll will consume a nearby Soulstone effect from a party or raid member and perish in your place when you would otherwise suffer fatal damage, healing you instead for up to 30% of maximum health
>>581074634I said that was my levelling build.
I only see good vibes and hype because I toggle all criticism off
Best race for horde warlock in PvP?I can’t decide between orc and troll.Troll seems OP - Faster fear cast due to 10% spell haste. Ability to recover 50% max hp sounds broken.Orc is immune to all curses (and gets 15% magic dmg reduction) for 8s that is huge. Instawin against ally warlocks. Not to mention spell power increase and 20% less stun duration.Tough choice ngl
how would you respond without sounding mad when my dwarf shaman walks up to you with corpsemaker and winfury 1shots you
SOVL GAS
>>581074518the best part is extra combo points from backstab and cooldown reductions from restless bladesi think it will make playing combat/dagger rogue much more exciting
>>581074119I love that art.
>>581074723troll for open world orc for bg
>>581074727I'd be very confused since I picked the PvE ruleset
>SOUL GAS IS BAD BECAUSE....RETOILET CLASSIC PSERFS TEARS LMAO
>>581074607Can't wait to get all the shitty low detail armors that I already have!The chievo rewards gonna have to be real good if they actually want people to play it.
what's the current state of Classic? I'm itching for a hardcore playthrough, is there much of a community, is there layering etc or whatever it's called? is the self found gimmick fun?t. tapped out in cata
>>581074723>Ability to recover 50% max hp sounds brokenIt's evocate but for health.
>>581074727>pop shield block>eat your wf>conc blow>shield slam for a billion damage and dispel your lightning shield>revenge crit to finish you offheh..... nothin personnel....
>>581074497>corpse campedThis hardly ever happens. Most people on the other faction just want to level too. Missing out on wpvp just to min/max leveling time isn't worth it.
Man i'm so pissed they gimped warlocks even more on Alliance side. I'll have to go horde and play with all the edgy children that think undead pallys are cool.
do you cunts think forever is going to have the same amount of gold sinks classic did? less? more?is gold going to be expensive to buy again?
>>581072319the problem with making the game like osrs is the playerbase has no idea how to adapt. and people are so heavily conditioned into shit like dungeons being easy that cata launch heroics forced blizzard into instant nerfs across the board. if you just give certain dungeons or bosses or enemy types like 50% resistance to damage unless you use X/Y then you will just have massive crying, even if you listed that dungeon boss as "EXTREME HEROIC, REQUIRES DAMAGE TYPE: x/y". people would hate it because it's not what they are used to.
>in order to max out their legacy tree, hardcore players will need to complete objectives that actually put their character at riskI'd never play HC but I love watching these sickos get tortured
So is enh tank doing a shield or two-hander? Stormstrike resetting on parry kinda sounds like two-hander to me. Also class fantasy of a two-hander and lightning is top-tier.
>>581074745that's how we've seen it back then
>>581074841if human palys are cool how come dead human palys are not? every accussation is a confession
>>581074717NIGGA you got like 4.5% chance to parry and even with talents you'll have MAX 10% dodge while levelingyou are not going to spam stormstrike on every gcd
>>581074723>Ability to recover 50% max hp sounds broken>can't move while using it, in the retail version you can>dots end the effect, in the retail version this doesn't happen>1 minute longer cooldown than the retail versionAt least its off the GCD? Either way its seems pretty weak compared to the retail version.
>>581074727I'd laugh when your Corpsemaker's new SOVLFUL passive procs and causes my corpse to turn into a Quillboar before exploding for minor aoe damage.
>>581074921Just tank more mobs lmao
>>581074934kek is that the actual effect? it does sound fun
>>581074642They will hand out plagued black proto drakes, mimirons head, oculus blue dragon & invincible like free candies which will make people angry
>>581073985>Togglersspeaking of, am I being shitposted to death by the most obvious trolls in the galaxy or are there actually legions of redditors out there who think "YOU CAN JUST TOGGLE IT" is an actual legitimate argument to make in defense of catastrophic design decisions? I have seen the same tired argument time and again when the devs of something I previously enjoyed decide to add something that completely destroys huge swathes of the game. Instant matchmaking and teleportation to dungeons, for instance. They'll go>Um, you can always choose to just walk across the world yourself. Nothing's stopping you! You control the buttons you press chuddie!Like the option is "put yourself at a massive fucking disadvantage for no reason because the game is now designed around this feature." Zoomzoom teleportation being optional has made the world irrelevant, it's not a focus from the devs anymore. They don't care about it. The convenience unironically just fucking kills the soul of the game.
>>581074916Nta but these withered slouched asmongoldians are not cool.Those hunks from W3 dlc are cool, yes.
>>581074986>Hand out InvincibleKek that's actually kind of funny, autistic farmers getting fucked
>>581074841There will be so many undead pallys and even the new orc racial hurts warlocks a bit. If you care about PvP you really do gimp yourself by playing an alliance warlock.
>>581075003i cant stand this guyhe talks like a faggot
https://youtu.be/_89KfZyZgukI love watching this fat fuck seethe.
>>581074723Orc and Undead, same as always Maybe Tauren if you're Hunter
>>581074993it's a video game, you don't need to play it since it doesn't catter to you obviously :)
>>581074993majority of this thread are "dont like it just quit :)" faggots
>>581074926Can’t wait to test troll on beta on Thursday Gotta duel a lot
What does Norf think about Forlo?
I just dont see how the camp buffs are a good idea. It was already kind of cancer getting rested xp on Turtle. Like the blacksmithing buff is 34 str and only requires 20 blacksmithing. So what my character if I both have cooking and blacksmithing has a permanent 34 str buff starting at level 5?
>>581074916but i didn't say they were cool fuckwit. They are normal.also people who run human paladins aren't wrist cutting edgy teenagers.
wtf, Tauren get +1% hit on everything? Isn't that busted?
>>581074841how tf did they gimp Ally locks when WotF got blown up?
>>581074327
I'm going to name my warrior Meteor Survivor
>>581075113If dots didn't break it I wouldn't complain so much. Really disappointed.
>>581075162suicide is an option
>Blizzard said its the journey not the destination (raid logging)>community and streamers immediately theorycrafting best groups and how to clear content asapthis game deserves what it gets
>>581075163you will have a dad gamer tauren male warrior main tank and you will like it
>>581075163why would that be busted? a racial equivalent to part of the item budget of a single piece of gear?
>>5810751631% hit is only one percent more damage at bestmean while 2% crit can be 3% more damager with crit talents
>>581075003>rug pulled retail>rug pulled classicWoW Forever won
>>581075251
>>581074829>>581074551I forgot that layering exists so in case of camping I would just teleport to a different layer lolPvP server it is then
>>581075168Does WotF share a cooldown with the PvP trinket? If so I assume the new human racial works the same way?
>>581074993But have you tried toggling it?
>>581074745>Azeroth needs a hero!
Someone explain demonic brand to me it doesn't seem to be for either dps or tank warlock?
>>581075086>>581075103this really toggled my neurons
>>581075247RP chads cant stop winning>no streamers>no min/maxers>no achiev linking for group invites>no boosters>no gold sellers>no bots>no queues>no server instabilities
>>581075168Just gave orc a full 8s IMMUNITY to curse and bane
>>581075273Yes, but it's on everything, all weapons and casting.
>>581075317PvP servers are always great at launch.Nothing like running into an enemy party outside BFD/Sunken Temple or inside of Stromgarde/Jintha'alor and having a tense mexican standoff.
>>581075390uh, okay? they will be immune to one of your multiple dots for 8 seconds?
>>581075129he said and I quote: "I wish I sided with my lifelong friend Andy instead of discord admin troon"
>>581074745tirisfal my beloved
>>581075353My read is that it's for pet tank lockI actually VW tanking might be good in wowf
>>581075247theorycrafting is fun
>>581075353whats that?
>>581073917For our ESL friends: "mistakes into miracles" is a phrase used (especially in Christian circles) to refer to an accidental pregnancy carried to term. The (extramarital) sex and pregnancy being the "mistake" and the resulting child being the "miracle." This image isn't suggesting that the Draenei and Blood Elves were a mistake and the Skyborne are miracles, it's suggesting that the Skyborne are the unintended bastard children of Draenei x Blood Elf fornication. Thank you for your attention.
>>581075154>camping on my undead paladin at level 5 and get 34str + 34 int + 34 agi and then going to Org and collecting Ony buff and then one shotting everything in the world for the next 2 hoursWoah, so this is Retail-...
>>581074745Brill needs to bring back the statue but of Garek this time
>>581075332didn't before but it might share a 30 sec CD now>>581075390probably with a 2-3 minute CD still better than going against old WotF
What's the point of adding penance if there's no atonement?
>>581075397you mean just like the crit racials and the haste racial for the new elves?
>>581075397useful for a hybrid class thenbut if you are a healer it does nothing, crit would help with heals
>>581075168Orc got a new racial which makes you immune to curses for 8s and grants 15% magic dmg reductionAs an ally lock you will face thousands of retri undead paladins (wotf is still great even without immunity)
>>581075387
>>581075390damn bro they going to be immune to one dot thats crazy
>>581075510horses are back on the menu boys
>>581075551It's fun to use
the fuck is "soul gas"? volumetric fog with raytraced godrays?
>>581075580oh no you need to cast fear twice on them instead of once like every other race to kill them what horror you severely underestimate how busted warlocks are and how insane the demo tree is for pvp now
>>581075551there was no atonement in wotlk when penance was added. it's still a powerful single target heal that's difficult to interrupt and near impossible to interrupt fully, unlike greater heal.
>>581074052blueberry pussy makes me happy tho
>>581075481Yeah my assumption was that tank lock would be some sort of afli/demo hybrid with no pet where you sac your vw for the buff, but maybe this is just another option so you could go a build where your vw is tanking and you're just keeping it alive, definitely not going to be viable at max lvl but It's for sure going to be interesting to try out in lower levels, also you can probably solo every elite in the game with it which is fun.>>581075490
>>581075625there is no such thing as soul gas, there is only anti-soul gas
Why doesn't blizzard do the smart thing and disable all forms of trading?kills boosting, kills gold farmers, kills botsno downsides
>>581075449This is a solid talent.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH /point AT DOOMPOSTERS, get fucked retards
>>581074308>Can someone give me the gist of the conversations that have been happening on here so far?Retail fags, pserver poors and #nochanges niggers seething like you wouldn't believe. >is there much skelf porn?Some, but not nearly enough.
Was seal twisting a thing in SoD? How did it feel? I'm torn between that and shockadin
>>581075057him and madseason are literally never happy with anything.i really dont know why they are crying tho, classic era is there for them if you just wanna play the exact same game for another 20 years
>>581075609>>581075707
how do i actually get off the streamer realm if every realm is the same? will there just be a layer addon to escape the hive of niggers or are you just fucked if the game seeds you to a streamer shithole at character creation
>>581075551it goes well with the other talent that lets heals reduce the shield debuff on the target
>>581075057Can't stand this fat faggot, honestly
>>581075675they are sexy af but i play warlock so wont buy
>>581075649I am not underestimating warlocks power with all new changes etc. I was pointing out that ally warlocks could have a harder time in PvP just like in OG classic/vanilla.
>>581075772>madseason>cryingfound the "just toggle it :)" fag
>>581075057what does moocluck think about Forever?
>>581075694Then they would have to rebalance the drops or it becomes similar to an arpg where you grind forever for upgrades
>>581075687also demo is all about versatility and this talent lets you go full fire on fights where fire works better than shadow damage
>>581075873take ur meds
>>581075772madseason is pretty open minded, his only hard dealbreaker is monetization shit he disapproves of which is completely fair. he's nowhere near as autistic as that fat clown.
forever catters to those who were abandoned by og devs into twisting wow into the garbage can it is and I can't wait for it, the retards whining are throwing rocks at clouds
>>581075898thats fine
>>581075792The options are:>pick pve realm (streamers mostly like going to go on pvp for epic pvp battles aka they gank greens with 20 of their followers around)>pick rp realm, same as above>set a language restriction to another language than english, you will have to play with people from your country but mostly likely won't encounter streamers
>>581075527i watched all the forsaken kingdom cinematics and im actually surprised at how well written garek was.shame he is fucking dead now tho, and sylvanas is the only relevant forsaken character
definitely not rolling pvp sever this time
>>581075609Being immune to both curse of agony and curse of tongues is huge especially if you are an orc mage
>>581075998>pick japanese>isolated low-pop phase full of cute girlslater virgins
>Aimed Shot got moved to the end of the talent treehunterbros...
The theories that Forever is an off-ramp for ending Retail after the World Soul saga keeps making more and more sense.
>>581076097aimed shot it base line
pvp trinket is 5min cd share cd share cd share cd with deez nuts you retail only troons you're not going to have pvp trinket on all the game there is no rated
>>581074052>But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Blizzard.
>>581076082is it huge to be immune to them for 8 seconds on a 3 minute cooldown?
>chuds still don't get the symbolism in the trailerwisp=blizzardbear=you when you played wow for the first time (sense of wonder and innocence)dwarf=you nowso be thankful blizzard is doing this for us, they just love us that much. so buy the fucking skelves already
>>581075998i wonder if the system is dynamic, so if i block someone whos mentioning streamers and i keep doing it for days, i'll be off the biggest shithole sector?i sure love having an ambiguous black box "quick play" type server selection instead actual server selection.
>>581074727
>esfand>nixxiom>madseason>daliDon’t mind me just compiling a list of cryboomers who currently hate the game and definitely won’t capitulate and start playing the moment the paycheck shrinks
>>581073917thread theme song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
>>581076160wisp is the spirit of retail
>>581076137that means it will be shit
my blizzard account is 1 strike way from perma ban but i haven't played it in years does the stacking ban debuff decrease over time ? should i just make a new account just in case i sperg out again
>>581076190kungen and alexsensual are playingwho else do you need?
The only way Horizontal Progression can work is if they add build enabling items.Imagine gloves that let you use a shield as a weapon as a warrior and attack damage scales off of the Shield's armor value...crazy stuff.
>>581076263:O
>>581076097aimed shot is base line now and has a 6 second CD it shares with multishot sniper shot is basically aimed shot+ and it's weird how they made the change
>>581076169Does blocking people actually stop you from encountering them? That would be quite funnyBut yeah mega realm has the advantage of never having the risk of landing on a dead server but also has its drawbacks
>>581076190esfand loves it though
>>581075387>RP chads can't stop winningExcept RPPVP gigachads...
I am now going to be with my night elf semen toilet Forever~
>>581076278We will get the correct timeline with Kaelthas as the glorious leader of the sindorei
>>581076307sniper shot isnt aimed shot either because its not based on weapon damage, so if you find a slow crazy high dmg weapon your aimed shots do comparatively little dmgi guess no playing MM hunter, ever
>>581076278>sylvanas and nathanos alive againoh no...
Why does every word used by the Blizzcon announcers sound good, but then the gameplay always tells a different story?>we want classes to feel distinct>but lol fuck aoe classes like mage, they are now hardcapped at 4 mobs and will be doing only slightly more cleave than a rogue and warrior for much less damage per manaLike what the fuck is the point of even playing a mage now?
not enough class/talent changes for me to become a paypiggy
>>581076263It’s funny he keeps fencesitting. If you watched his stream over the weekend he was just concernfagging nonstop. Had a direct hand in the current design of the paladin trees and said he’s not gonna play if sealtwisting is gone. I cannot imagine having such a direct influence over the design of my class in my favorite game and still walking away from the experience of blizz sucking your dick all weekend to give it a 6/10 on your first impression and say they fucked up seal twisting. Motherfucker you MADE the sandwich.
What are the chances we get a mod to swap blueberries models?Elves make no sense in the horde and their druid forms don't fit the rest of the world
We're only missing Boogie and Reckful now from returning veterans, if they both get into Forever, WoW will be saved...
>>581076334that would make sense since the whole goal is to see people you played with before>>581076348we will still have our tourneys
>>581075707Orc warlocks against casters in general seems great. You have 40% damage reduction, high stamina, multiple ways to heal yourself, and an extra 15% damage reduction for 8 seconds.
>>581076263nuke all stream shitters
>>581076263His biggest criticism of Forlo is the fact that seal twisty is too easy and therefore less fun.
>>581076424Anon... a wow expansion can't revive the dead
>>581076263how can these tasteless thumbnails be worthwhile to make instead of just a screenshot of the talents themselves
>>581076402>I can't exploit the game therefore the game is bad now lol lmao mage tears
>>581076435what about troll?
>>581076424i dont think a patch of pavement can play a video game, anon
>>581076493the average youtube watcher loves these
>>581076336>>581076420He really doesn’t. The best thing he had to say all weekend was “it’s encouraging”, but that was always surrounded by 4-5 different criticisms. Have you actually watched his streams? He complains non fucking stop. Even during classic, his “peak” it was nonstop complaining. He was one of the original no changes retards.
>>581076424if rekfull comes back forever will be the greatest game ever dude!
>>581076402>we want Durotar to feel arid and dry and true to the authentic feel>but Durotar is thick with fog now
>>581076263>>581076420>>581076464Retail failed because blizz spent too much time listening to players in top 1% guilds.They need to say fuck em and focus on the bulk of the playerbase.
toggling futa cawk: on
>>581075163Racials literally never mattered. Not for PvE. Not for PvP.
>>581076424those faggots were already way past my time. i quit in early 2009.
>>581076387anon the text for sniper shot and aimed shot is basically identical, it's just aimed shot+
>>581076572*smooch* *slurp*
>>581076572This is the only toggle I will turn on (heh)
Troll female warlock.
>>581076190>anyone who understands the game better than me and has higher IQ than me to put together all the shit aspects of the game = crying
i don't understand why people are basedfacing over survival hunter and saying marksman is botchedmight not even play hunter this time around, will probably be forced to trap/melee weave which is gay and annoying
>>581076551Ion can't be allowed to touch Forever
>20% chance to resist a stun turned into -1 second stun duration or worse>humans got WotF but for stuns which is actually more useful than WotFIf there isn't a long shared cooldown with your PvP trinket and the new human racial that will be garbage. Also gnomes better get nerfed too.
>>581076542I watched his streamthe reason he "complained" so much in the blizzcon streams was because he spent weeks making his own dream paladin talent trees
>>581076629>he’s on the same side as Esfand, Dali, Nixxiom, and Madseason
>>581074496This won't work while leveling, if you rush for imp stormstrike you won't have any points in resto until 35Giving up riptide sucksMental quickness sucks dick, 30% int conversion is peanuts, ret paladins get 100%. You're probably better off putting those points in purificationRestoration is loaded with good talents and the good shit from enhance is all tier1You could do a hybrid build for healing and farming shit at 60 but it's a hard sell, just use dual spec
>>581076574this is just flat out retailspeakracials have always mattered a lot in classic
>>581076572futas aren't real, and if they were we wouldnt want to hang out with you
classic graphics: toggledlanguage preference: germanclass: rogueserver: pvp
>>581076716if futas arent real how do you explain my double D tits and a seven inch cock?
>>581076664What he didn’t tell you is that blizzard asked him for a tree and what he showed on stream as “his idea for paladin” is what he actually submitted to the team. His ideas were completely overpowered, naturally, and because blizzard didn’t recreate his tree 1:1 he’s going to spend the next X years complaining about it.
>>581076689dont know who those shitters are but madseason has never been wrong on any of his takes and he's been proven right multiple times
Will Forever revive the darknest community? Will we have mods before the beta is finished?
>>581074496anon dual spec will probably be freeRiptide is Shaman's most efficient heal by far and instant cast you obviously want it for dungeons why is this even a question
>>581076760lose some weight, fatty
>>581076740Ziggo bros... look away
>>581076153I would say yes? As an ally lock you would be wasting global cooldowns.I am not the best player or something but playing gnome warlock in classic gave me a ptsd (wotf immunity)
>>581076520I was very disappointed to learn that the new troll hp regen racial is much worse than retail version. That being the case I'd like to see how good the new undead racial truly is. It apparently has no internal cooldown and it works with dots so it seems quite good. Beta is pretty soon which will determine if I play orc, troll, or undead.
>>581076770>Darknestnow thats a name I haven't heard in a long timea long time
>>581074727>walks up to youGood luck with that
>>581076542yeh ive come to realise that certain " content creators" are just miserable faggots who complain about anything.you know if youve interacted with anyone like this IRL that they are insufferable to be around.
>>581076651That shit is what makes hunter fun, brain dead easy to play at a base level but absurdly autistic skill ceiling.You niggas really enjoy just sitting there shooting fucking auto attacks?Min maxing melee weaving with the auto tempo while trapping and micro managing the pet to avoid aoes while doing feign death tricks like drinking mid fight or swapping trinkets what makes it so entertaining
>>581076779if I were a fatty my dick would only be like 4 inches
>>581076760This but unironically. Being a tranner is based.
>>581076493Normies click snoyface more in general, which has caused the YT algorithm to give thumbnails with snoyface more impressions. It actually analizes the image, transcribes dialogue and automatically assigns a target audience.Don't hate the player, hate snoyciety.
>>581076402>mage goldfarmer seethingGet rekt Chang LMAOYou gotta find a real job now to feed your family
>>581076692You get stormstrike at level 25, you don't need to be deep resto to heal Deadmines what the fuck are you thinking?
>>581076770darknest is dead, everyone is on arctiums discord
>>581076834it's clunky and unintuitive
https://youtu.be/KOV4-IYWM6o
>>581075998>streamers mostly like going to go on pvp for epic pvp battles aka they gank greens with 20 of their followers aroundNah. Streamers don't go on PvP servers in 2026, unless they're dedicated WPvP players, like Payo, but there aren't very many of those.
>>581076834I like hiding behind map geometry in Dun Garok and critting horde healers to death with Aimed Shot while they're trying to do their group quests
>>581076850What does Sony have to do with anything of this?
>>581076546durotar is thick with DUST because its DUSTY
>>581074926The dot thing sucks but it's a bandage on steroids if you can pull it off>sap/blind>fear>sheep>freezing trap>intimidating shout>psychic shoutIt's just shaman getting cucked
>>581076918why would he do all classes and not just warrior
>>581076402Blame the paki boosters.mages getting raped with the nerf bar is good.You're never gonna make me feel bad for a mage, cunt
>>581076914It's fucking fun and unique and if they remove it from my classic plus I'll skin your whole fucking family alive
>>581076263>ITS SAME BUT DIFFERENT>THEY ARE INSANE
>>581076886I mean he’s kinda right. The solution should have been to make boosting impossible, not gut mage identity.
>>581076961its misty from all the (fem)orc sweat
>>581076542>no changes retards.i love how you ignore the fact we now have SoD+ with incoming goldselling and boostselling and you STILL cry at people who tried to keep blizzard and the absolutely retarded community in check
I WILL play a femnelfie warrior and I WILL find a healsis from the thread to play with me
>>581075917>I know what this eceleb really thinks because he's my friendincels are so retarded it's unreal. No wonder you get grifted
steamy femtroll feet
Night elf seems like it might be a winner here for pvp. The defensive CD is huge because melees are your natural predators as a healer and that spell gives you a huge chance to dodge a mortal strike. And starshards seems like it will let you be a holy fire/smite priest without having to take holyfire/smite talents, or conversely double them up for an even bigger burst window.
>all the retail faggots angry at the wow classic streamers for pointing out the retail slop that needs to be cut out Cry more niggas we have Aggrend on speed dial Go back to retoilet if you don’t like it
I’m the first american to wake up and rejoin this thread today.
>>581074745>blizzard adds 2010s open source volumetric shaders to upsell a 2004 version of wow>the andy's gobble it up like goycattlefuck i should of went into game dev if i knew it was this easy
My female skelf mage will be a portal and food / water slut
>>581076629Esfat couldnt even make it out of the barrens on hardcoreImagine being such a retard that the tutorial area is your great wall.
>want to play on pvp server because world pvp is fun.>want to play on RP since it usually has a better community.Really wish you could just turn PVP on a RP ruleset and just do world pvp that way.
>>581077060You’re misconstruing. There’s a difference between no changes and NO CHANGES. These retards were campaigning for artificial lag so they could have muh batching
>>581076834My favorite was SOD sunken temple marksman hunter that for a while had to do all that while maneuvering like 5 different procs and changing cooldowns between rotations WHILE STANDING STILL AS LONG AS POSSIBLE SO YOU HAD TO PRE-PRE-PRE POSITION ON LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO MAXIMIZE IT
>>581076385I will be so fucking pissed if Blizzard wastes their legacy characters like they did originally. Let's look at the big players in early WoW:>Arthas7/10 ending>Kael'thas 1/0 FUCK YOU BLIZZARD>Deathwing-100/10 FUCK YOU BLIZZARD again. Deathwing was done dirty.I hope they use this opportunity to do better.
>>581076290>The only way Horizontal Progression can work is if they add build enabling items.Yeah I was thinking about this as well. Would be hella fun. Could do the same with set bonuses. Instead of something basic like +50 AP make a set bonus actually do something. That way you'd be encouraged to keep or farm older sets, mix and match with new ones.
for me its warlock gaming
>3 days after the reveal>troondles still on suicide watch
>>581077094>undead priest loses devouring plague exclusivity>in exchange, they get... life tap>4/6 races get 2 priest racials...
>>581077063you have to be over 6 feet irl to play nelf
>>581077094gnome is easily the best and it's not closeif human loses feedback it could be a contender NE is only good if shadowmeld can be used in combat
>>581077150brother they are not going to be approaching these guys at all, least of all fucking DEATHWING lmao. You can't have those guys show up without some kind of giant impact on the setting which is what they are specifically trying to avoid. Kael is the lowest powerlevel on that list and even he is very unlikely to show up because he's in outland at the moment of the timeline the game takes place.
>>581076895You need imp stormstrike for the mana regenYou won't need resto points to heal most content and once you do you'll have enough gold to afford dual specI'm saying unless you want to save your dual spec for pvp or some shit going hybrid is not worth it
>>581076402>I too remember the Night Elf pilgrimage to Stormwind through the Wetlands>btw there's a boat now from Auberdine to Stormwind
>>581077078madseason isn't a grifter. he barely talks about wow anymore. he's a runescape youtuber now.>>581077137>batchingthe mechanic makes or breaks certain classes, like ele shamans.
do we have gooning Forever material already bros?
OH MAN I CANT WAIT TO HECKIN ZOOM TO 60, IGNORE ALL THE NEW TRASH CONTENT, GANK AND RAID LOG, ITS GONNA BE A SOLID 1 MONTHS WORTH OF FUN!
>>581077135Bitch at Blizzard to add an RPPVP setting during the beta. It's a popular enough realm type that it shouldn't be excluded.
>>581077204>>in exchange, they get... life tapwhy are you making it sound like its nothing
>>581077204they're probably still getting touch
>>581077135Isn't PvP toggleable on PvE and RP servers?
>>581077017>mage identity is aoe leveling and gold farming/boostingspoken like a true ESL first time classic player
>>581077286i look like this and say this
>>581077204They all get 2, the pic is incomplete. I saw a more updated one recently but I didn't save it. the undead life tap is more like evocate, and they also get another dps spell.
>>581077094No one cares about PvP retarded brown ape and I'm tired of having to remind you of this
>>581077291its not though
>>581074993>game improves to solve many unseen issues because you are the goy not the designer>because of this you view it as a negative and dont realize the things it solvedyes this happens very frequently in game developmentsometimes it leads to the game dying because they didnt optics its good enough
>>581076290>Gladiator on some gloves
>>581076263Why should anyone care about this mutt says. I'm convinced the only reason he became a streamer was so he could amass a following of retards, form a guild, be able to play his shitty ret paladin and have all the gear funnelled straight to himself. If he had his way a preraid-bis ret would do 50% more DPS than a full bis warrior.
>>581077295nvm just saw the 10min cd lol
>>581077262some legend made lots of sexy sex elf material. Cba to go through the archived threads and look for it though,.
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE BETA SOON
>>581075057>i hate everything about it>but i'm still gonna stream and grift on it
>>581075551It's a super heal on a short cooldown and you can use it to finish a mob faster if you're good on mana
>>581077259It’s also an artifact of a bygone era, that wasn’t an actual design decision. It would never have been in the game if the game wasn’t made in 2004. They tried testing it prior to release and the majority complained it felt too shitty. But that didn’t stop these faggots from foaming at the mouth to have it implemented. It’s not about making or playing a better game for them. It’s about playing the exact version they fell in love with in 2004 that could never be recreated no matter how much bullshit gets added or taken away.
>>581077328it is but he wants to gank lowbies>>581077373>mutthe is 100% iranian
>>581077291>look at RP and RPPVP population on era>fucking deadanon...
>>581077259All ecelebs are grifters lilbro. They're making money off of you and doing whatever they can to make more. People who watch streams are low iq so maybe you'll never understand
>>581074993>equating graphics toggle to "huur duur just don't use lfg/free max level boost/whatever xD"Retard
>>581077231gnome doesn't seem particularly good to me, contingency plan seems like it's just a worse desperate prayer because of the super long cd, and the cc one is decent but it's only 3 seconds long.
>>581077413watch him change his mind 1 week after playing it
>>581077336Mage identity is AoE. The rest of that drivel is something you invented with your brown hands.
>>581077437Of course it's dead, it's era
I wish excaliboar fired a crescent sword beam
>>581077204They still have their other priest racial that reduces healing received by 20%
>>581077436>he is 100% iranianHe looks like an inbred Arab, not an Aryan Persian. So a mutt.
>>581077195All the horizontal progression will be like:>Raid 1 comes out, you get full BiS>Raid 2 then comes out, but it has braaap gas that you need Braaap Resistance for>You then craft new profession items that have Braaap Resistance and do the associated new dungeon that drops Braaap Resistance gear>After your guild finishes farming the raid you bank all your Braaap gear and look back on how good it was getting braaaped on
>>581077427you sound like you never played ele or fire mage.it was a central part of their class identity. absolute monstrous burst dmg. so no shit, you will get people complaining because homogenization in an MMO is what killed classic and brought on retail.
>>581077245Why are world ending events so hated for Vanilla anyway? I mean wasn't burning legion in Warcraft 3 a world ending event? I think they could do both TBC and Wotlk stories in some way although I would hate if they added flying again.
>>581077437era is dead as a whole
>>581077521I wish excaliboar fired crescent rolls
>>581077508And you still have spammable aoe.You just can't pull 200 mobs anymore to sell boosts or shit up quest areas, machmud. Get a job
>>581076420He hated blizz seal twisting, he was running out of mana every fight and left the dungeon to respec
any strayan wants to sell a beta key? drop contact
>>581077587I wish it permabanned doomposters
>>581077563The idea here is for content to last forever and not to have them spend time developing content that cannibalises existing content. People want to play the entire game, not the current patch.
>>581077512only troonguard lives the others are dying and now linked to itrppvp was dead when it was relevantnot a single rp server or rppvp on era, anni, or pserfs has populationsits doa
>>581074208I'm paying Mcdonalds for pancakes and beta keys.
>>581077563Because they fuck up the setting, which is why we ended up with shit like the jailer and intergalactic conflicts between magical bullshit fields. And it's how we ended up with cataclysm destroying the world that STILL has not been fixed nearly 20 years later.
>>581074849>is gold going to be expensive to buy again?i'm not buying at launch. if they're going to let RMT happen i'm not going to bother playing at all. this should be trivial to detect and ban and they've let it happen in every other iteration of classic, i think they'll allow it again.
>>581075057https://youtu.be/k7-M0puRIkkThis annoying cringe ESL faggot is seething the most.
>>581077508>Mage identity is AoE.Nah, being a walking vending machine is
>>581077695if you're going to call anyone ESL atleast don't be ESL yourself tyrone
>>581077650Grob was one of the largest servers on the first go around
>>5810774923 seconds of CC is extremely good especially when you can clear roots and slows and get away Plan is a lot of healing for an instant cast spell and can be cast on other peopleThe real reason to play Gnome though is because Eureka is the most overtuned bs I've ever seen and hopefully it gets gutted. Eureka into Prayer of Healing spam is going to be nuts for AoE
>>581075057>THIS IS GONNA GENERATE SO MANY VIEWS... FIRST I ACT NEGATIVE AND FEIGN OUTRAGE... THEN, WHEN IT COMES OUT, I GLAZE THE GAME AS THE NEXT JESUS, SAY I WAS WRONG, AND SOAK UP THE GOOD WILL OF THE PLAYERS... HEH, TOO EASY...
>be sick cunt from straya>wake up>beat my missus>make a mymaccas account>drive down and grab a dqp meal paid for by centrelink>get a wow beta code>sell it online>repeat tomorrow>eat free maccas for a month
>>581077695>>581077737Only ESL care about ESL
>>581077746wasn't that because it was a streamer server
even with 50% or 70% aoe nerf mages will be the strongest aoe class
what the fuck does horizontal progession even means in wow anyway? i feel this is a word streamers learned in osrs and repeated it ad nauseam but wow never worked like that, new raids are always harder than the previous and reward better items, i know there's that snowflake item that doesn't get replaced but in general that's the way it works, same with tier sets, sometimes i don't even know what version of wow nostalgia retards think they played
>>581077695I don't like the guy, but his meltdown is fucking hilarious.
this u? doompostie
>>581077737Spotted the ESL faggot.
>>581077802I don’t think people even fall for this any more though? These days I think everyone would just call him a faggot for acting like he wasn’t gonna play. Then again half this general is also acting like they aren’t gonna play and we all know they 1000% will be logged in day 1 singing its praises
>>581077852it comes from guild wars 2you dont gain more power, you gain new ways to play
>>581077508Isn't lock multi dotting better raid aoe dps?
>>581077802Him and Bellular do this for like a decade at this point lmao
>GROW bonus herbs without herbalismare they adding farming or something?
>>581077892 >>>581077806
>>581077784They're going to focus on the world as the main character, not lore figures.You're going to explore the world and local emergencies.There's so much content they can do without jumping the shark, Karazhan, Zul Aman, Tel Abim, Kezan, Uldum, expanded AQ zone, Grim Batol, Tol Barad.
>>581077852it means no ilvl increases you dumb chudexcept blizzard already admitted raids will increase in ilvl so the game isnt horizontal progression lmao
>>581077852>what the fuck does horizontal progession even means in wow anyway?mounts
reminder that Warriors run this shit. you WILL don the dress and supportthe robes of the exalted are waiting (for you)
You guys think they're going to change anything about Blasted Lands since we're not going to outland?Do you think World Bosses will be kitable to cities in Forever?
>sod had multiple world pvp events happening>forever has nothing of the sort
>>581077094Elune's grace sucks dick vs rogues, it only works for 3 hits.Dwarf is great vs rogues and ok vs other meleeGnome spells are both great all around and his racial might be BIS in pveTrolls shadowguard is amazing for shadow but everything else is mehWe don't have the numbers to check out if starshards is any good but I doubt you'll have that much time to channel in pvp and being arcane damage you're missing out on talent support
>>581077970they will just randomly sprout around you
>>581076834>the auto tempothe what now
>be me>say "Season of mastery and discovery are beta tests for classic+ years ago>Nobody believed me
Should I play GW2 until Forlo beta starts?I'm feeling like... horizontal.
>>581077508no mate. Mage identity is being a wizard with spells, not aoe. Genuine idiot
>>581078051>only 3 hits>kick misses>kidney shot misses>blind misses>no big deal
>>581078037>Sod did a lot of interesting things to classes. >Forever each spec only gets 1 or 2 minor adjustments unless you are a paladin tranny.Shits gonna suck, they learned nothing from sod.
>be me >buy the WoW:Forever beta >look at doom sissies >laugh and continue with my day
>>581077804Aren't they limited
>>581077836Faerlina was
>>581078106No, play the new WC3 campaign.
>>581077204Lower its CD to 2 mins and it could be great, shadow is constantly healing itself via vampiric embrace and holy/disc can turn that trade into a net positive
>>581076834>do all this autism>perform at 95% effectiveness being a ranged botwow anon you did all that for barely any better parses
Can you really get beta access with McDonald's points?
>>581078080Cats can't talk.
>>581075387how do i into RP? i can't do another classic wow experience with metaslaves and streamniggers ruining things
>>581078130they learned that too many new things fuck the game up
>>581078130>forever each spec only gets 1 or 2 minor adjustments uhhhhhh......... is this a bot or something? >>581078192>parses
>>581077094Genuinely what the fuck human?Shouldn't they get extra love since sword spec is entirely useless for priest?
>>581078128>activate elune's grace>2 auto attacks miss>hemo miss>elune's grace runs outwoah, it's fucking nothing
>>581078201sadly i'm not a sick cunt
>>581078212>>581078214Paladin tranny
>>581078201You can in aussie land yes
>>581078130I think they'll have surprise spells you can learn at level 40 and up that won't be in the beta.
>>581078143just make a new account lol takes like 5 minutes
>>581078204>use fantasy name generator for a name>dont say obnoxious shit in /say when there are people roleplaying around youthere you go
>>581074993>Space King retard turbo nigger thinks fucking transmog and HD models is the same as a fucking boost or teleporting This is why nobody takes you classic Andy retards seriously
The amount of faggots and troons excited for this slop is hilarious, i cant wait till all the troons go back to midnight and the classic cucks try to fool themselves into believing they haven't been fooled again.
>>581078216Humans also get feedback, the pic is incomplete. And the one in the pic is still good, shields bypass MS and being able to double them up in an emergency will be a life saver. The sword spec also applies to spells btw.
>>581078130warlock and shaman also got a ton of changes thoughbeit?
>>581078204You don't even have to roleplay on roleplay realm, all it's asked of you is to not break other people roleplay and/or name yourself Kirkinator Netanyahu on character creation
>no one here really knows what this does>doods it has no internal cd its so broken!
>"wow" players >we want new things >blizzard >here is new things >"wow" players >noooo....not like this
>>581077852To put it in WoW terms, it would mean a group full of Naxx-geared raiders doesn’t have a way easier time in MC just because they’re wearing Naxx gear. No verticality. No item level bloat. No stat bloat. Stat distribution is mostly the same if not slightly tweaked in special circumstances across all items. The problem is you can’t say how WoW would be horizontal because they’ve never properly done it. OSRS has a million hours worth of skilling you can do that don’t even translate to combat or group content. It’s simply player power/convenience. And of course all of those skills have tie ins to the world via quests too. WoW has nothing like that. We don’t have hours upon hours worth of individual content we can work on that simply makes our characters better. We have our dungeons, raids, and PvP which all give fixed rewards. Once you’re wearing BiS gear, there’s no other direction to improve assuming you already leveled professions and handled the other basics of being max level. To be clear I’m not advocating for OSRS skills in WoW, but there needs to be other forms of “number go up” that contribute to your character’s growth incrementally in meaningful ways.2% move speed in Westfall misses this mark so far>but that’s not endgameThat’s not the point. Even if they put relevant effects on items in the end game, this is not horizontal progression. You’re still showing up to the raid or dungeon, hoping for an upgrade that’s gonna make bigger number.
>>581078298as a troon I haven't played retail since Cataclysm and spend 99% of my time on path of exile
>>581078319Paladin tranny gaslighting
>>581078328It sounds drastically better than what it is.Notice how it says up to 5% of maximum hp
>>581078128More like >3 white swings miss.And blind is a spell, you can't dodge it retard
>>581078226Im sure every single priest is retarded and cant time their cooldowns>just auto attack when they pop itthey will only pop it when you HAVE TO cc them or you are deadGG no re
>>581078216Divine Grace is pretty good and is both instant cast and costs no mana5% spirit is pretty strong
>>581078323Would that even break the rules?
>>581078359Every class got massive changes but what would a retoilet know?
>>581078328I’m wagering it’s broken not based on any fact but because the other races are super overtuned and if this one isn’t overtuned at a 5% chance it’ll just be completely useless instead
>>581078343Who axed for Deus ex Vaccinium?
>>581078427>Huge changesLOL LMAO
>>581078407if that doesn't I don't know what does
>>581078369its a miss not a dodge and spells can miss
>>581078373Enjoy your 50% gamba I guess
>>581078192No, it's even worse. Theyll perform worse because they will 100% fuck up resulting in massive dog losses. Tranny weaving is a meme that only looks good on sims, which assume perfect play on a patchwerk enemy
>>581078393>Divine Grace is pretty good and is both instant cast and costs no manaIt's probably also off gcd, so you could macro it to also immediately cast another shield on the target you removed weakened soul from.
>>581078436>other races are super overtuned>dwarfs
Why are so many anons using "troon" as an insult?I am happy that trans exist, because I goon to them.
>>581078473Slam on a 15s cooldown is pretty bigAnd warrior get victory rush baseline nowSo much for "muh leveling"
>>581078473>let me show you some skill that proves nothing >lemao! pea brain
>>581078473oof so much for Arms PvE
>>581078436>I’m wagering it’s broken not based on any fact but because the other races are super overtunedWhat is overtuned exactly?Trolls having a worse pot that requires channeling?Taurens running slightly faster over time when out in the open and not in fucking combat?Yeah really fucking overtuned meanwhile gnomes get fucking 10% damage boost at lower costs, night elves get 10% fucking crit and humans get literally everything.
>>581078516They should add +5% gold find to the dwarf treasure racial.
>>581078558Retail tranny calling others retail.
>>581078328>5% chance to cause an attack to heal you for its damage dealt up to 5% of your maximum healthThere you go
>>58107850550% auto win sounds pretty good to meeven if rest of the time I only have 30% win chance it will total for 65% win rate against rogues
I've never played warrior in classic.How annoying is stance dancing?Is it fun or a total pain?
>>581078593In a scale of 0 to 10, how mad are you that WoW:Forever is going to be the better version of classc+retoilet?
>>581078516Yeah I can’t argue that one not sure what they’re thinking there. Stoneform buff is cool though. The other races are good.
>>581078586did anyone confirm plainsrunning falls off in combat? I can't imagine it would
Boomkin chads, how is it looking?
Who even choose to play on PvE realms willingly instead of RP realms? Speedrunners and parsers? It seems like the anti-soul anti-fun choice
>>581078498It isn't. It's a dodge.
>>581078634It's gone in Forlo.
>>581078646You outed yourself retail tranny.
>>581078634In vanilla it was annoying early game because it reset your rage to 0 without talentIn C+ the talent is baseline so it's gonna be pretty fun
>>581078667boomkins and shadow priests and elemental will get their mana problems fixed within a year of launch
>>581078586>what is overturned exactly?>lists multiple overturned racesAnon?
>>581078683So how mad are you? because we all know retoilet is done for.
>>581078586>trolls +10% haste is fine>orcs +10% ap+sp, stun resist, curse removal + spell resistance is fine>NE +10% crit is bullshit>gnomes +10% damage for whopping 3 spells/skills is insane
>>581078634its a non issue if you just macro every stance to every ability that requires a specific stance/cast battle stance/cast overpower
>>581078668RP realms are filled with trannies and the mentally ill. Nobody wants to be near those freaks.
>>581078668People who want to play the game without tranny gankers or tranny larpers?
>>581077286you knoe it, gonna grind each dungeon until they give zero exp then go straight into the next. as soon as i hit 60 ill shitpost abou0 content, i can hardly wait!
HUGE CHANGES
>demo capstone>can't get restore 3% health every 4 seconds and have a felhunter out at the same timeI learned of this today and its quite disappointing.
>>581078667pretty good honestly, but it really depends on if they get any AoE changes>>581078705Boomkins and SPriests already have their mana issues fixed the odd one out is Ele Sham
>>581078667hope you enjoy spamming cheap wraths60% reduction on their mana costomen is baseline30% mp5 in combat
>>581078675it literally says that the change from classic version is that its no longer a dodge but a miss
>>581078328Does it scale with bonus healing?Paladins and Spriests and wlocks will be insane
>>581078328if it's 1ppm it's whatever but if it's crusader/tf-tier proccing it's OP as fuck. but for now it's impossible to judge.
>>581078793>everyone having fun >the lone retard in a corner with adhd >reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>581078540Imp slam doesn't come online until 36, we're already sweeping + whirlwin at that point and a attack with cast time doesn't work in that scenario
>>581078668I'm a yuro and I'll be playing on the burger servers, they're usually more fun to play with.
>the aussie maccas 1000 points beta access is reallol what that’s like 10 dollars for it vs 96 dollars on battle net
>>581078328absolute nothingburger
This is unironically making me consider making my own hard/soft res groups. Sickening.
>exploiters will discover early on launch day that the repeated dungeon exp nerf doesn’t work>they’ll start flying through levels with bis leveling gear>streamers will find out and start doing it>suddenly you’re 10 levels behind everyone because you were sleeping or at work>patched when you get backThis will 100% happen btw if not something similar. Happens every time. Test everything yourself cause blizzard always missed something and the early bird gets the worm.
>>581078473wait a second I thought class trainers for skills are dead?
>"look we added all these new lighting and new graphical effects">game still has all old assets anyway is it supposed to look retro or not? what's the point?
>>581073973haven't played since tbc but soullink shadowburn is the way to go for pvp
>>581078737Gnomes racial is game breaking
>>581078793It's hard to give huge change to warriors when they were already the hero class, atleast they gave em something niceWorst case scenario, you can go raid in era with your 20 warriors pal and 10 rogues
>>581078953wonder if this means EVERY boss or every raidbecause every raid in classic already had its chase drops, usually from the last boss but not always
>>581078939this is some weird cope, the reason you have "more fun" is because when its night for you, it's lively there and that's all >>581078959there is no rush for anything in this version but what would a retoilet know
>>581078953>we made horizontal progression by adding low% bis items that vertically inflate your character powerWhat did they mean by this?
>>581078953personal loot would solve this
>>581078953GDKP already solves raid activity issue, why do anything else?
now that the dust has settled...is this what we wanted?
>>581078793still more changes than fire mage
>>581078737the reduced cost is what really jacks up the balance for Gnomereduced energy cost is very overpowered for Rogues and they also get 5 more energy it's also very overpowered for healers so expect every good ally priest to be Gnome and also have the busted AoE CC so good luck killing one
>>581078981gonna suck your dick with hd retro graphics
>>581079030>no rush for anythingOnly a retoileter would believe this. The first handful of 60s on a server can run the entire show for the life of the game if they use their time and lead wisely.
>>581078668> EU/NA PVP Horde: 6 votes> EU/NA PVP alliance: no votesPVP servers managed to kill themselves before the game even launched.impressive.
I need to figure out a lvling tree for Priest that still allows me to heal the early dungeons
>>581079030>this is some weird copeNah, I have a normal schedule, it's all from my own experience playing with both over the years in different games.
>>581079095>pick me! pick me!
>>581078953ffs hr groups gonna be everywhere
Can the same toon switch between PVE, PVP, RP, languages whenever or is it locked in?
>>581078953Why the rush? It will be up forever and you'll get it eventually.
>>581078967>wait a second I thought class trainers for skills are dead?wait until you find out 99% of the shit troons spam about Forever are lies.
>>581079126Historically the meta has been a mix of shadow of discThey buffed spirit tap like crazy so it should be even better now
le babymaking blueberries
>>581079126They specifically reworked healers and healing gear to be viable leveling solo if needed
>the most popular race in the game is available on both factions, AND you have to pay for itYou have to admit, this is a 300 IQ move from Blizzard. Both balance-wise and business-wise.
>>581079095>It's all good except the Disney stuffWhat a milquetoast opinion.
Everyone is asking their friends now if they want to play wow forever with themwas that the plan with "forever"?
>>581078997I don't see howIt's great for priest healers if mana turns out to be an issue but +10% damage isn't that big of a deal.>>581079110Yeah I can see the reduced cost being nice for warriors but OP for rogues. That +5 max energy might be a bit too good too if we're back to stunlocking + DR reset days
>>581079064But GDKPs are banned bro
>>581079095does she have an of ? if not i dont care
>>581079095asmongod could get this slampig instead he goes for ccp bugette
>>581079121lol this isn't classic or retoilet lil pup
>>581079121Who gives a shit, it's a video game I'm playing this game to socialize and relax.Im glad I can dodge spergs like you on the RP realm. Have fun rushing to 60 in 2 days played and then complaining there's nothing to do though
>>581077617We had to fight, claw, and beg to make these video game gold farming jobs exist chud, and after all that they're still worse than the jobs available to you in the first world.
>>581078953>>581079048>>581079064>This is unironically making me consider making my own hard/soft res groups>personal loot would solve this>GDKP already solves raid activity issuenigga none of that will happen and I will roll 98 and get ashbringer and the scythe of elune from you and you will be whining on the thread because you're not favored by Elune because you're a shitter entitled to loot kill yoursleves
>>581078829Dont shamans get water shield?
>>581076716They're real in Latin America
>>581079231Why can't they be Priests man
>>581079258>community solves your problem for you>ban it because... uh...
>>581079009>Dogshit at leveling.>Dogshit at solo content.>Need heal slut on you 24/7 if you want to do any kind of pvp, otherwise dogshit at pvp. >BUT furry faggots do most dps due to cancer world buffs in 1 version of wow. That's it, let warriors suffer forever.
>>581079110>busted AoE CC0'5 seconds cast time, lasts 2 seconds and breaks on taking any damage. It's not that big of a deal as everybody is trying to make it look like
>>581079126it depends on if we get dual spec early/free or notyou're going to be healing with wand spec + shadow talents if we don't, if we do just go disc because 50% Meditation is much better than what you get early in holy
>>581074993I think you may just be an autistic psychopath who can't deal with the knowledge that some people are playing with a different toggle than you are. We're not talking about optional time-saving features that you autistically don't want to use, we're talking about superficial toggles to a superficial system. What difference does it make? You probably freak out if a girl ever reveals she's ever had sex with anyone else, too. Because you're sick and you need help.
I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want transmog
>>581078953>every single boss in forever will have a very powerful sought after item as good as dragonspine trophy >some bosses will have 2 or even 3 of these incredibly rare and power full itemsWhat in the world is Blizzard doing?
>>581079095>is this what we wanted?Yeah, pretty much. >new zones>new dungeons and raids>reworked classes / specs>more sexy elves = gooder I'm really happy they ignored the #nochanges uncs.
>>581078953>>581079048that's too far. just introduce a currency that every boss drops and, if you can't get it after 1-2 full clears, you can just buy that item from a vendor. but that would defeat the purpose of the system. blizzard wants players to keep clearing obsolete content so they don't have to constantly make new stuff.
>>581079140>this is some weird cope >I have a normal schedule you just proved my point then, when it's night for you, it's day for them so it's more lively I thought yuros had brains but you seem to have cum for brains only guess you are some form of forced shitskin?
>>581079335Because belfs will be released in a year or so for 30 bucks.Skelfs can't be priest, paladin and warlock, while belf can
>>581079369Dual spec will cost 2000g or you can buy it from the MTX store for thirty bucksSource: It came to me in a dream
Why are people excited for this if it's just Epoch, which completely bombed and had 0 players 4 weeks after launch
>>581079393men dont care about playing dressup. they play with action figures as they come. Playing dressup is faggot behaviour.
>>581079123alliance racials might be stronger that horde racials this time around, but wow boomers are at an age that their opinions on things are not able to change anymore so they'll mechanically roll undead rogue and blizzard will have to lock faction like they did in anniversary and sod
>>581079448Epoch bombed because so many people wanted to play it that the servers exploded forever
>>581079448Don't talk about Poochie you'll trigger PTSDs
>>581079448I too get all of my information from threads on /v/
>>581079329Water Shield only restores 2% mana onA. Getting hitB. Getting a crit on your heal (not any spell)Water Shield is not very good, hope they change it.
Toggles will be the future of feature additions btw. “Some of you have been asking and we hear you, which is why in the WoW Forever: Assault on Naxxramas patch we’re going to be adding fully global world asset toggles. Now our retail players can feel just a little more at home in WoW Forever!”
does jailor exist in this alternative timeline?
do i go femskelf mage (food slave) or femskelf druid (heal slut)
>>581079393I don't understand why 30-45y olds need bright LOOK AT ME IM SPECIAL flashy outfits
>>581079448>i was a poo poor brokie and this happened in the private server! lol
>>581079095>now that Chad has stopped replying to my messages>did I really want to have sex with him or was I raped?
so what do i do?
>>581079121>believing that in one year the guy who had devilsaur on farm first will have any advantage
>>581079554it better fucking notI dont want to see ANY Shadowlands references
>>581079448Epoch had 60k people in queue during launch day
What if they had an AI agent monitoring the Hardcore server and everytime someone died it checked their final minute and provided a rolling deathlog+explanation of what happened?
>>581079393I like looking at a character and immediately seeing their story, being able to tell what they’ve done and what they might be working on. If everyone is just running around in their Sunday best full set it takes a lot of the charm away. And for PvP transmog should just be globally banned on every version of WoW.
What is the absolute meta class/spec to counter paladins since we're having another paladin hugbox experiment because all the devs are retard pally mains and esfand rapes holly nightly
>>581079426I would unironically buy 1 new race per year.But make them all available on both factions.
>>581076696If you're a no life nerd faggot
>>581079095post the beach pic. she is a proper slampig
>>581078130SoD was dogshit beyond belief. The less they learn from it the better.
>>581079531Oh itt doesnt even have mp5 now? Seems off
>>581078228>>581078259>AUS onlyWhat the FUCK NA BROS????
>>581079426>Sky elf? I buy.>Blood elf? I buy.>Wood elf? I buy. >High elf? I buy.>Any kind of elf? I buy >Draenei (space elf)? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
>>581079362>Dogshit at leveling.Not anymore buddy, they got Tactical Mastery and Victory rush baseline, welcome to the future>BUT furry faggots do most dps due to cancer world buffs in 1 version of wow.You're a retarded nigger if you believe this, war DPS mog everything in classic, worldbuff or notA big part of C+ hype is adressing the dogshit balance, and that involve war DPS beating everything, go play era if you dont like it
>>581079618warlocks crush paladins because they can't decurse
>>581079648p1 was peak
>>581079494I’ll remember you think I’m gay when I make my lime and magenta wizard hat look like a leather cowl or some shit. you will look very het in your leveling clown suit >>581079572bright outfits are the norm while leveling, that is the exact problem
>>581078953I just don't understand why they'd do this. Shit like this works in OSRS because all the content is solo. I can log in when I have 30 minutes and grind a chase item a bit.If I have to login and wait 2 hours to get 30+ people to run Onyxia with me every single week for a 0.000001% drop chance item, that I have to HR 3 years from now, I will want to blow my fucking brains out.
>>581079584europe, horde, roleplay realm, something massive is coming
>>581079594Good thing that’s never happened and no one has ever made entire mafias and spent weeks or even months of their time managing the flow of devilsaur leather and goods right?
>>581079648I can tell you have a double digit IQ from this post.Mistakes are the best way to learn. Pushing boundaries teaches you where they are.
all of these guilds doing their last bt...
>>581079095simps are so retarded. Women like this should have zero views. Real sex is free
>>581079661Blizzord better be reading these threads.
>>581079369>spirit tap in shadow>wand spec and meditation in disc>cast reduction and spell cast delay protection in holy
>>581079404Their idea>"People will farm these forever!"Reality>People will quickly stop caring once it's been looted enough, no one's building an entire raid for the Rogue's +1.7% BIS trinketIt's so obviously stupid just on the surface that you'd think they'd not have even bothered.
>>581079618>>581079669*can't decurse or kickyou get free fears on them and if they're holy Tongues makes them garbage, if they're ret Exhaustion means you can kite them out
>>581078953What is the proper etiquette for hr/sr runs? Could I as the raid leader make it so I hard reserve one of these chase items but still soft reserve items as well?
>>581079617I feel like I have a better understanding of a character’s story when they’re wearing what they actually want versus whatever gives favorable stats
>>581079231>you will never feel those purple lips around your BWChttps://youtu.be/3nbann317Z8?t=19
so where do I find a good guild for my needs (tf)
>>581079632Actually it’s the no lifes who are allowed to play stuff like troll or nelf warrior specifically, because they’ll put the work in to farm the edgies. Casuals should stick to human and orc.
>>581078793if they actually wanted to make the game horizontal, they should make this attack require a spear.than design movesets for different weapons that do different things.
>>581079753>Real sex is freeYet you've never had it. Curious.
>>581079806thankfully they dont listen to retards like u
>>581079663You think they’re gonna have their biggest opportunity to shake up the norms of classic WoW ever and not gut warrior? Wishful thinking. Retbvlls will run Azeroth.
>>581079421nah, bad luck protection is retail babby shitunironically a great change if they commit to it doe.
>>581079753But she might become my gf Iif I gift her 50x tier3 subs...
>>581079753I don't watch her, but the 2 videos I've seen at some point were very well thought out and good. You just react to her aesthetics without knowing or thinking anything. You just instantly get hostile, much like a troon after being misgendered.
>>581073917can we please have the poll in next OP so we know where people are playing
>>581079767thanks anon. i've never played warlock, so i'll try it. does anyone know the peak pvpish build while leveling yet or is it still guesswork?
>>581078667>the goodWrath is cheaper, Balance gets a bootleg version of Cataclysm's alternating nature and arcane spells system, insect swarm is in the Balance tree, and there's a fun talent that lets you cast even faster with a shorter GCD>the badYou'll probably go OoM from casting even faster
>>581077804What.. i thought you cunts were joking. 1000? That's the equivalent of like $1 in points. Do they also get early-name reserving?Now i feel like a right dumbass for buying the beta-access edition. It seriously was not cheap like $96 AUD, my only consolation prize really is the bear mount since i won't be playing sky smurfs.
>>581079653I'm legit pretty sure it never had mp5
survival CHADS are eating GOOD Thank you HollyThank you Blizzard Thank you WoW:Forever Take my money
Are skyborn worth buying or are their racials and starting area bad?
>>581079773Maybe if you’re RPing like a faggot. I don’t want your literal story or lore. I wanna know where you’ve been and what you’ve done. I wanna be able to take one look and say “you’re not coming”.
>>581079775Weak slam compared to Asmong
so what do we think? will holy/disc dps be viable?
>>581079908>Retbvlls will run Azeroth.>I'm out of manaput on the dress
GW3 can’t come soon enough
>>581079362>Dogshit at leveling.nah, warriors are actually close to best lvling classes. it's not 2010 anymore lil gup.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPvZ9koFz54
evens gnome mageodds orc rogue
>>581079663They will 100% nerf warriors and normalnize rageI am sure that retri paladin will top meters
>>581079767>bubbles>beats the shit out of you with all of his new abilities while you have no way to run away
>>581079934i don't think anyone reads the OP anyway but reposting poll for third time for good measureshttps://poal.me/2hc6amhttps://poal.me/2hc6amhttps://poal.me/2hc6am
>>581080059>t. I am a cuck you hate the fact that wow players have something to have fun with and be proud of the game once in a blue moon
>>581077804Fuck, bet you have a 15 inch cock as well you son of a bitch.
>>581080059all gw has to do is make actual fun spells and they'll already be 5 miles above blizzslop
>>581080034mmmnyo
>>581080017Racials are dogshit, they're a complete meme raceStarting area is locked off for people who paid the 30 bucks, it's very retail-ish from what we've seen.Theyre basically there to lure in retail soccermom foids, do NOT play them if you're a hardcore old school OG because we're all going to ban Smurf Elves from our guilds and groups and raids.
>>581079997its ten bucks for 1k points and nah just a beta code and nothing else, 1 per account (you can just make a new mymaccas account in a few minutes with a throwaway email but)
>wake up>check mail>no beta invite
I remember there was some prot warrior tank that made guides that got canceledYou think he'll come back to Forever?
>>581080103it needs to be the first sentence so people see it and pay atttention
>all the haters have no beta access hahahahaha
>>581079923>nah, bad luck protection is retail babby shityou probably haven't had 17 chrom kills without a single xbow drop or have had 11 priest eyes in a row. we had 6 hunters in the roster and were standing in aq40 with bloodseeker and farrads.
>>581080139>we're all going to ban Smurf Elves from our guilds and groups and raids.Good. That way I'll know which guilds are full of poors and browns.
>>581080206>blizzard hardware blacklisted all turdletrannys
>>581080206>haha you losers don't even unnecessarily give your money to a company that hates you
>>581080148>xhe thinks they'll hand out free beta at the startmaybe last week or two
>>581080073that's incredibly efficient leveling18 hours to 30 is nuts
>buy collectors edition because I want the figurine>not interested in playing the game at all
>>581075387There's no option for RPPVP yet though so we need to raise our voices on that
>>581080001Tbc and sod
>>581080097Warlock can just run away and dot you up and fear/seduce again once bubble wears of lolPaladin is a free kill for warlock You should have known that if you played vanilla/classic
Honestly I just want them to add available quests as markers on the main map. I'm too old and don't breathe, eat, and sleep classic. I want to see what zones have quests available at my level without having to be on wowhead or have some faggot guide addon. I want to be able to see that Riverglades Town has a new dungeon quest or chain that ends up at SM or some shit. It feels shitty to miss out on quests for dungeons or overlevel quests that have unique items you might want, but you dont do the chain because it's level 20 and you're level 40 now.
>>581079448>Epoch>bombedEpoch only bombed in the sense that the servers literally exploded from how popular it was
>>581080024>Maybe if you’re RPingRP? in my MMORPG?anyway you can’t even see more than half the shit people have equipped from their model alone, that’s what the inspect window is for
>>581080216"bad luck protection" just means give me free shit.
good morning wowf chads, reminder:>furfags dead>trannys dead>3rd worlders deadand your telling me all of them are refusing to play wowf????B A S E D ASED
>>581080260>but i go out of my way to spend my finite time on earth droning in their forums and talking about it when I dont like ithmm...
>>581080334im glad people like you arent on the dev team desu
>>581080097this level of delusion makes me want to play warlock
why are some people saying wow forever will be bad?
i hope some of you eurobvlls are having fresh baguette today for the lowly americans dying of heart disease from hyperpurified shitbread
you see this face standing over you after you just got sapped and bled to death. what emotions come to mind to cope with your rape?
>>581080024>I wanna be able to take one look and say “you’re not coming”.>Maybe if you’re RPing like a faggotXD
>>581080334nobody is talking about free shit or that you have to get one insane item every run but after 4 or 5 clears your gear should be significantly better than before.
>>581080365>>furfags dead>>trannys dead>>3rd worlders deadThanks for reminding me, friend.
>>581080418EU PvP chuds lets zug zug and rape well!
>>581080073>nah, warriors are actually close to best lvling classes.I think the numbers on that might be a bit skewed because all of the minmaxing sweaty autistic neckbeards have been playing warriors for the past 7 years since they were the best dps class for endgame content
>>581080365I'm playing a nudist female nelf hunter with a wolf pet :3
>>581080421now post the hd model which I will be using
>>581080490<///<.....
>>581079030>there is no rushLaunch is always a rush simply for the fact that you want to be one of the first people in contested zones so you can get quests done and enjoy the very beginning of open world pvp on a fresh. When you have essentially two raids worth of people on both factions all coincidentally running into ashenvale around the same time, it's like magical sparks. Missing that moment and getting stuck in the shitter mob a day later is just aggravating as quests take forever and it's a hellscape.
>>581075387>xir's not playing on asmon server for the maximum active player base
>>581080410because it dosent have any faggy shit (yet), and zero furfag shit unless you jump though hoops to say druids are fur fags. in addition all the pserver negros are mad because there is no token, and cant afford to play because RETAIL is DEAD and CLASSIC is DEADwow 2 chads, we won and all the worse people lost. it feels so fucking based.
>>581080216>we had 6 hunters in the roster
>>581078328someone streaming the 38 dungeon at blizzcon showed that it contributed to 3-4% of the dps on a pala tank
>this plus escape artist and 105 energy>even the engineering thing that makes your items backfire less could be good>humans get a better version of wotfHow does this make sense when orcs stun resist racial got gutted? Also the troll regen racial is way worse than the retail one. If the 5% undead racial also ends up being bad I will be extremely disappointed.
>>581078204>how do i into RP?1) have a personality
>want to PVP>want to RPRPPVPchads continue to be second class citizens
>>581080569oh jesus it was 20%? I thought it would only be 10 what a fucked up racial
>want to be an undead paladin chad>want to erp with femskelves>remember i'm undead>penis doesn't work anymoreis it already over for undead paladins???
Imagine playing on a boring sleepy PvE server lol couldn’t be meImagine playing with mentally ill people on RP, YUCK!
>>581080528>blablabla >t.im gay and retarded I'll play however I want nigger. This is FOREVER.
>>581080546I’m a gay furry and me and all my gay friends are gonna play wow forever. just so you know
>>581080458>after 4 or 5 clears your gear should be significantly better than before.And it usually is unless you're already close to bis, and getting full bis shouldn't be guaranteed. "bad luck protection" is reddit tier faggotry.
>>581080602its over for me..
>>581080615>penis doesn't work anymoreHe's just like me
>>581080528Literally every megaserver is sharded. It doesn't matter if you're they're first or not, since the algorithm evens the playerbase out over different layers.This isn't classic anymore, this is a completely different client and player distribution method.
Am I screwing myself as resto druid? It feels like Resto Shamans and Holy Paladins are gonna mog me hard but resto feels so comfy to play.
>>581080148send me a message to my throwaway email and I'll send u code, just try prove its you in message
>>581080613read it againit's a 20% energy discount and +10% damage
>>581080569>whaa whaa horde doesn't have insanely op racials compared to alliance for the first time in 20 years
>everyone hates how they are forced to pick the race with the op racials>so we decided to make the racials more wacky and overpowered and poorly balanced!this will go well
>>581080615>skin covering bones for China panderingkek
>>581080559Did they have a damage meter on? Also do you have a link by chance please?
>>581080615if it makes you feel any better none of the other paladins can get it up either.
>>581080546>unless you jump though hoops to say druids are fur fagsThis has to be a furfag false flag.Nobody can be this retarded.
>>581080148were those sent out already?
>>581080538its because the hidden trannys that RP (thats everyone that RPs) will be exposed on stream if they did play anywhere fun enjoyers. why would the be afraid of being exposed you may ask, its because they are all pedophiles, and its indicative by them sexualizing a childs game.
>>581080713>everyone hates how they are forced ? are you perhaps brown
>>581080691yes I know but the increased damage doesn't really matter when compared to 20% energy reduction it's completely absurd
>my all dwarf RPPvP guild is coming back for PloosA light in the darkness...
90% of Alliance BG's will be Gnome
>>581080752yeah fr. as a gay furry i can even toggle on ‘enhanced’ graphics so my cat form is cuter. that guy’s nuts
>>581080615>kill some faglord human male farmer>stitch his bwc to my crotch>fuck skelve babes all dayliterally canonically possible by the way femdeads literally have dialogue about stitching someones else tits on their chest to have bigger tits
How many Skybornechads ITT? What faction are you rolling?I'm thinking alliance mage
>>581080662depends on the raidsIf raid damage is low you'll get heal snipped by others constantlyIf raid damage is bursty you're SOLIf raid damage is constant you're cooking and BIS
>>581080615>paladins>penis workingpick one
>>581080767pvp servers have the most amount of trannies and leftiest because they are all about punching the nazisrp is actually transphobic because there is nothing fake or acting about being a valid trans woman
>>581080713Other way around, everyone hate how retail flattened every racial in the name of balanceSo now we get gigabusted shit
>>581080713Who is forcing you, little man?
>>581080558it was 2005, don't judge.
>>581080718i think it was xaryu, the damage meter was the one baked into the client
>>581080758i doubt it. anon who replied to me is prob right, priority to paypiggies and then when pop starts to taper if they need more stress testing, they'll start inviting in the last week or two, short beta afterall
>>581080621>>581080752check out this fucking cope. you lost trannybrownfurrys. you be stuck in goldshire to RP and be reported non stop. litteral groomers.
>>581078204rp was never easier these days thanks to chatgtp
>>581080718wdym lil bro? retail has a damage meter by default
>>581080808<Anvilguard>?
>>581080850Female skelf shaman, horde obviously.
>>581080662RDruid healing looks pretty good but they don't bring utility so I'd be concerned rolling oneThe problem is you need 3 Paladins and 4-7 Shaman for the buffs they bring. Some of these can be dps or tank now so that opens up slots for RDruid, but in the worst case scenario of Ret, Enhance, and Ele all being weak there might not be more than one slot for RDruid if any
>>581080860everyone knows that paladins lose their connection with the light the moment a woman touches their dicks
>>581080925implying I play alliance when I can play a hunky tauren
>>581080850Not rolling this shitter race, those racials are dogshit
>>581080713At quick glance every race has its own niche, it's just meta niggers doing their meta nigger shit
>>581080569This racial will get nerfed sooner or later because people will be crying on r3ddit that a lowbie rogue killed them in one cheap shot
>>581080639>And it usually isbut if it's not bad luck protection should kick in. not in form of an item dropping but you being able to buy the item with the special currency you earned over the weeks of not getting it.
>>581080850femdruid
>alliance doesnt have shamans>horde has 3 races that can be shamans>give the blue elf on horde the ability to be shamans and not the alliance blue elf??????????????????????????
>>581080850alliance resto druid with boomkin offspec
>>581080482nah warrior is still middle of the pack for leveling which is much better than bad but mage, hunter, warlock are still pretty far ahead
>>581080959>RDruid healing looks pretty good but they don't bring utility so I'd be concerned rolling onebro, your decurse? your battle rez?
this time paladin will be good right?
>>581081017yeah I was expecting them to be shaman on ally and paladin on horde but whatever
>>581081017Who cares
>>581081017retard
>>581080606>trying to have some little gay RP adventure in redridge>horde players arrive>interrupt our session because they can't talk to us or understand our emote battles>get killed by hordeRPPVP is an inherent contradiction
>>581079997>he spent $100 (directly funding Israel) for a 4-day beta
>>581081017Dwarves.
>>581080708Orcs are still a thing, reduced stun duration, blood fury without drawbacks AND curse clear + magic damage resistance is busted. BIS for both pvp and pve save for tanks and pve healers
>>581081017Enjoy your reddit dwarf Shaman you have to stack 5-7 times in raid :)
>>581080826Many of the racials seem really good but gnome in particular looks especially egregious. If it doesn't get nerfed in time for release then yeah the majority of rogues, warriors, mages, and locks will be gnome.
>>581081049paladin has always been good>>581081032mages decursebrez is good but not enough
>>581080869>ERRRMM AKSHULLY PVP SERVERS ARE TRANNYS NOT THE GAME TYPE WHERE I PRETEND TO PLAY DRESS UP AND FOCUS ON BEING MY TRUE SELF CHUDlmfao talk about cope on a rope. >>581080984i will concede with people that play Tauren, i may not like it but they earned there way into rape by force.
>>581081007>but if it's not bad luck protection should kick inNo. Everyone shouldn't be able to get everything, that devalues the loot.
>>581081017>let elves be shaman on horde because of faction identity>don't let elves on ally be paladin because that'd be too close to high elf
>>581080925Dogfucker hands typed this post.
>>581080950<Dwarven Overlords>
>>581080906damn
>>581081149all of the priests who are paying attention will go gnome too
>>581080615this shit being horde themed with the tabard and book and shit instead of fucking lordaeron or some random paladin order themed really really pisses me off and is emblematic of how much nu-blizz really just doesnt fucking get it
>>581081101It's a 30+ day beta but yes on this occasion the dumbass was me
>>581081149any warrior that cares more about PvE is going to be NE because the new racial lines up with Death Wishalso, you missed gnome priestsgnome priest is on the same level of busted as gnome rogue
>>581080850war tank alt. fembelf + shield + sword is kino
Are there any 4chan guilds? It might be fun to play with some chuds
Since servers are regional layers, how can I play with my brother that is residing on NA atm?
>>581081172as i said, you haven't been on the receiving end of that situation. you literally don't know what you're talking about.
Yes I will be playing a troll mage on hardcore mode named "Mana Gem"
>>581077946blizzard wasn't even mage's best aoe spellalso no warlocks were not good at doing any kind of damage
>>581081142Man, I'm actually considering dumping the guild I've played with for years just so I don't have to be a fucking nigger dwarf to play shaman. I'm coping they'll release a new race in the future that can be shaman and I can just race change then. But who the fuck knows how long that will be?
>watch the not zul farrak dungeon run by savvix and soda>they keep wiping to this very tanky orb boss who gets damage amp'd for each add you kill>group decides to ignore the mechanics>winAnd people are doubting this is classic? lmao
>>581081032>bro, your decurse? Can be done by mages>your battle rez?If people are dying you have bigger problems>MotWCan be given by Feral/Boomie since Imp MotW doesn't exist anymoreYour niche in vanilla used to be Swiftmend but now Hpally and Rshaman also take that niche because of buffed Holy Shock and Riptide.
>classfrost mage>racehuman>sexmale>serverpve>playstylesingle target questing
>>581081142its going to be fucking shit finding enough people who want to play as the gay reddit le beard and beer race as shammies man holy fuck anyone rolling alliance and expecting to raid is masochistic
>>581081260Yeah, we're online rn, hop in!
What are pvpers going to do when they can't just change to a faction dominate server?
skyelfs could be the first WoW elfs that I dont hate
>>581081261join the same realm type, set the same language and be in the same guild.
>>581081272Well dots can crit now so I expect locks to be able to do respectable aoe damage.
>>581081312make a reddit threadmake a 4chan post make a forum post >this is not the same because...!
>>581081260i'm sure the self-important self-obsessed namefag animals who populate this board will make every thread about themselves and discord drama very shortly, anon! But it's really not worth it, wow is a game meant to be played with normies, who are nearly all chuds anyway.
>>581081312doesn't matter. they can balance the layers. the dominant faction will have empty layers with 0 of the opposite faction
>>581081312Suddenly I understand why some people hate realmless
last night my septum piercing caught on my trans gf’s dog collar and I gushed blood all over her (it’s ok she thought it was hot). Race/class for this feel?
Mage, druid or warrior. What should I take? Did warrior in classic 2019 and classic relaunch, and vanilla 2004 I was a mage. Do you guys think all druid specs will be viable?
>>581081312surely theyre doing forced 50/50?
>>581081312Blizzard will make faction specific layersFor example layer 1 would be 95% horde 5% ally
>>581079064soulless
>>581081348Does this really work? I appreciate your time for the info thank you, just really need to know to prepare
>>581080826NE is the PvE parser race and human is a contender for shitting on rogues and paladinsDwarves need to be relevant, I don't think stoneform is good enough for tanks. Maybe trade big game hunter or mace spec for taurens endurance?
>>581081380I just wanna say edgy shit with bros, why do 4chan chuds have to be so weird
>>581081263>as i said, you haven't been on the receiving end of that situation.I have. From the beginning of classic until mid MoP when I quit I was never full bis in any phase. And that was with me being in a privileged position in the guild and having high raid attendance. I just don't consider not getting full bis to be a problem. Getting full bis should be extremely rare.
>Sky elf epic pack £51.99 >comes with £10.99 sub on nov launch day that i would spend anyway>have £10.03 bnet balance already>won £10 on mobile casino using free daily spin today 6 weeks of beta access, new races unlocked, name reserve, bear mount, elf mount, 4 companion pets, dorf transmog set, elf transmog set, tabards? all for £20.97?don't mind if I do blizzniggas
>>581081482Regions are still separate.
>>581081482>need to knowwe'll know in november.
>>581081384>the dominant faction will have empty layers with 0 of the opposite factionThat one spillover noshoe on layer full of nelfs...
>>581081393undead ret paladin
>>581081260it's fundungeon with /wpsg/ friends https://streamable.com/evyf66though every anon guild is different in my experience
>>581079661the only cool elves are blood elves. The fire/phoenix aesthetic is kino.
>>581081285>boss starts with a couple adds>slowly pops moreYeah no wonder they died when they focused adds until getting overrun
>>581078953LMAO enjoy being forced to reclear every single raid they release to death or lose your guild spot
>>581081509I didn't have reforged so -£60, Blizzard basically paid me to play Sky Elves
goon with troonthat's all, see you on thursday/friday on the RP megaserver
i swear to god if you can't craft a bis spell caster sword with blacksmithing
>>581077617>>581078124Enjoy Whelps without Mage's blizzard and CoC since they can only hit 4 now.
>>581081606sounds like some parsie subhuman problem
>>581081412feral looks extremely strong for melee dps and will be a good tank too just maybe not in early raid progression
>>581081509>won £10 on mobile casino using free daily spin todayhow the goyim think about money is crazy
Lionheart helm status?
>>581081559How do I join?
>>581081572trannies have taken the phoenix as their symbol
>>581081559>https://streamable.com/evyf66comfy, just bros having fun
>>581081490it's all downstream from the fishnet lingerie and wig they put on before they login to the game, it changes a man
>>581081183your wrong and your coping, all fur fags are trannys and all trannys are fur fags, and being a furfag or tranny means your are a pedophile, and all browns support child rape. I thank Jesus Christ (who is God) that all trannys/fur fags/browns refuse to play wow wowf. im playing Ret btw, but you already knew that
>>581079806Requiring a spear would just make warriors make a macro that changes your weapon before the skill and after using it.
>>581081719bad as always
>>581081669gm's boyfriend wants his 1% drop trinket (its bis game) time to go clear twilight verandah (40 man) for the 46th time! dont forget its mandatory to attend :)
>>581081312>max lvl wants to gank while im lvling>boot 2nd client and hop on alt>server needs to rebalance a/h ratio>i simply disappear into fresh layer
>>581075051>If you care about PvP you really do gimp yourself by playing an alliance warlockyeah but you just gimp yourself overall playing horde this expansionoverall alliance racial are that much strongerThe only reason you end up not playing alliance is if you let someone that wants to play shaman pick your faction since orc>dwarf, but man human, and gnome look absolutely busted, and NE is no slouch either. Human and Gnome are just too good imo.
>>581081298>no deep freeze
>>581081803too real
>>581081720be in the europe roleplay realm horde side
>>581081508But have you ever been a full raid tier or two behind on important slots? Weapons, trinkets. Like clearing AQ with a lv51 weapon because the upgrades just don't drop and you can't craft any either because they don't exist. I lived through this twice and never want to see it again.
>hordeGod I hate Thrall after retail, can we have anyone else as warchief?
>>581081762Surely there's guilds with no troons allowed
>>581081859back to ur dead mop server tranny
>>581081815human warlock is king shit
Do you think Mutilate requires daggers? It doesn't specify on any of the calculators. Did anyone test it on the demo floor? If it works with swords I want to try this spec.Imagine the seethe when I cheap shop open on some unsuspecting shitter, hit Eureka!, mutilate once, hopefully poison procs, then cold blood mutilate, and then eviscerate.
>>581081412Healers are always welcomeThey gutted feral cat powershifting and the new talents are good but not amazing so we don't know how they'll do.Balance looks solid but still need more mana supportWarrior is barely changed, small nerfs and small buffs here and there + you can thunder clap in defense stanceMage got hot streak, ice lance and arcane blast so it's going to be fine
>>581081765mrrp~!see you on the server in a few weeks anon :3
>>581081904It's over, I'm US
>>581081920I never played past WotLK classic. The first time I took a major break from original vanilla was early in WotLK. I came back to play a mage and deep freeze was super fun.
{skull}{diamond} <CAGED SISSIES> RECRUITING SHAMANS (ALL SPECS) FOR RAIDING AND COMMUNITY FUN :) CURRENTLY 12/14 MOLTEN CORE!! RAID NIGHTS WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY AT 7:00 ST! WE LIKE TO HAVE CLEAN AND RESPECTFUL FUN! DWARVES WHERE ARE YOU!!! {diamond}{skull}
>>581081915You are mistaken! This is a /vg/ guild we're talking about
>>581081960Mut will almost certainly require daggers any spec as gnome rogue is going to slaughter in 1v1
I will now join your burning crusade
>>581081421This is what I assumed
>>581081906>But have you ever been a full raid tier or two behind on important slots?Yes, and I didn't cry like a bitch. If you want "bad luck protection" go play retail.
>>581082049When will I find a guild that caters to neets like me and raids at noon? I don't like staying up late, I get tired gaming all day long..
>>581081263actually i have. i was <1st percentile on my vestige drop in osrs and i spent around 50hrs extra killing the boss.wow having bad luck protection doesnt make much sense, WOTLK is already shit because everyone runs around with smourne by the end.
I want to rim horde futas so bad
>>581082125only burning crusade is gonna be your cock after you fuck her from all the std's she's got
>>581081732lol no
>>581082125Built to get sealed airtight by 3 horny draenei futas
>>581082189This but druid forms...
>>581082125built for BWC
>>581079832we're all grown men here. If you don't have a stable relationship at 30+ you're literally a failed male.
>>581081815>Human and Gnome are just too goodThere is a reasonable chance that they will get nerfed before the beta ends. Also dwarfs probably need a buff.
>>581082189>futasWhy are you gay
>>581081980i know ur trolling because thats on the first page of google images, but people who uniroincly are into fur fag shit were raped at a young age and cope about it by thinking fucking a dog or cat is okay.
>>581081904can you run during fights?
>>581082246guilty as charged
How fucked is the ratios for Dwarves gunna be? They have dogshit racials compared to all the other races getting insane changes and are also simultaneously the only Alliance race capable of Shaman. I predict Dwarf will be the least played race in the game by a MASSIVE amount and at least half of the dwarves made will be Shaman.
>>581082283ok pal.
will it be as fun as SoD?
>>581081904>>581082313ah nvm i see you goys running around in the second half of that video
>>581082158>If you want "bad luck protection" go play retail.Or Forever itemization is built from the ground up to prevent cases that would need it in the first place. Like more than one way to get an at least comparable upgrade instead of one boss per raid tier that drops this one item and if you don't get it you're stuck.
>>581082358probably pretty low, though there will still be dwarf hunters as wellstone form is still an amazing racial especially in PvP
>shop items to be added to forever look straight from retailthank god i can disable store whale xmoggers, but im worried about the chinese new year panda mounts they will all be flying about on in 7 months
>>581082358would people that like dwarfs really decide not to play them because of their racials?sounds like min/max bullshit. especially when blizzard is now free to rebalance racials any time.
>>581081692Pretty sad really isn't it. I imagine this anon doing as much daily 'free' shit as he can (thinking it's not a job) only to get paid way less than a job
>>581073917HOW DOES SYLVANAS' MODEL LOOK IN FOREVER?????
>>581082358Lowest class played in alliance followed by warlock because of fucking wotf. Human warlocks counter them a bit so we'll have to see >>581081815Dwarves racials aren't insanely bad but they suck for shamans, that's the final nail on the coffin
>>581082252Eureka needs to get replaced it's too good and too hard to balance the numbers
>>581082484yeh probably because the items in your pic are literally for retoilet, not forever you fucking smoothbrain doomer
>>581082193>The phoenix is a powerful metaphor for many transgender individuals, symbolizing profound personal reinvention, endurance, and rising anew as one's authentic self after shedding an old life.
>>581082497Forever is going to be so fucking easy and all these parse brain pro gaymers (retail mindset) players are going all out again lmao.
>>581081365>change the debuff limit>bros this is huge warlocks will be so op>damage goes up by 2%, can't barely compete with hunter damage>now>dots can crit>bros this is it the real game changer>warlocks will still be mashing shadowbolt and using hellfire as their aoe warlock single target looks really good now though
>>581081559did you kick the pedos from your guild yet arthur?
>>581082484Blizzard made it pretty clear they know flying killed the world.Won't happen.Might happen for Chinese realms but who cares what they do.
>>581082358there will literally be not a single guild on alliance that isnt just permanently recruiting dwarf shamans for an instant raid spotroll one if you want to be treated like a celebrity no matter how shit you perform
>>581082484Can you disable the new fog shit?
>>581082582they are listed on the bundles as being usable in forever
>>581082358>everyone is a minmax tranny like memost people don't give a shit about racials
you cant hide any of the new retail looking shit because they dont have classic style low res version available
>>581082580Eureka is only good on rogues, maybe reduce the energy discount or remove it enterly to not upset noshoes
>>581082579>Dwarves racials aren't insanely bad but they suck for shamans, that's the final nail on the coffinBut they are dwarves. No one wants to be a fucking dwarf. That's my only substantial gripe with Forever, they really fucked Alliance shamans by only giving the class to fucking dwarves.
>>581080902>>581080945So the damage meters proved it has no internal cooldown?
>xhe thinks the transmog toggle will disable seeing people on their shiny hd retail mounts
>>581082358>ratioThey are still the go to race for tanking. Same thing with Trolls. Shit racials otherwise.
>>581082746great on both priest and arcane mage
>>581082582
>>581082659>there will literally be not a single guild on alliance that isnt just permanently recruiting dwarf shamans for an instant raid spot>roll one if you want to be treated like a celebrity no matter how shit you performThat is the one benefit of it all. No one wants to play dwarf and shaman is a rare spec as it is usually. People will quite literally be sucking your dick for you to join their groups.
>>581082731Why would you hide retail items in retail-?
>>581081765as expected of a wielder of the lightthese freaks are not the druids in tune of naturethey're abominable spawns of satan and must be purged
>>581082174if you are na just play with an eu guildif you are eu just play with a sea guild
>>581082746Isn't it good on warriors as well? Escape Artist is also great in PvP for them. A little extra max rage and better engineering doesn't hurt either.
>>581082820I hope the bear has an SD version
>>581082206I'm one of them
>>581082624>parse brain pro gaymersseems so. they already ruined classic for me.
dc still playing dwarf>no invitedc wouldn't play with you anyway
>>581082484Nudevs are literally unable to replicate the old style.Old was sharp, vibrant and gritty.Nu is blurry, washed out and smooth.
>>581082878nopethe achievements unlock a spectral bear mount too
>>581082709>most people don't give a shit about racialsRemember this when you see mostly humans and gnomes
>>581080097>>581079669>>581080305>>581080389https://streamable.com/zdc3rspov: a warlocuck tries to kill you as a pallyCHAD
you guys already cashed out of MoP before the squeeze right?
>>581082748add wildhammer customization then, the novelty alone will attract a ton of players>>581082803UD get better mana racial and human is a contender for mage in pvp.If the mana discount works off the base alone it shouldn't be that big of a deal>>581082876Orcs are still kingStun reduction, blood fury and curse removal + magic damage VSEscape artist and eureka
>>581082978really owned that gray warlock
Kek so it was just one guy making the threads?Almost 900 posts and no new
>>581082709apart from standard goats like war stomp, wotf, and the human trinket, i rarely even remember they exist. i get that min maxx pvpers see some niche advantage in cooldown trading with things like stoneform and escape artist, but they've always seemed useless and retarded to me
>>581082978kek warlock mains will never recover from this
new>>581083072>>581083072>>581083072
>>581083025>add wildhammer customization then, the novelty alone will attract a ton of playersIt's still a fucking dwarf. If I do end up on Alliance I'll paypig a race change first chance I get.
>>581082878blizz are just too lazy to make one, meanwhile like 1000 people have done it themselves within a day on reddit/xitter and they all look way better than anything blizzard would do anywayyou dont quite grasp just how shit blizzard areonce this hype dies down forever is going to get shitted on relentlessly btw, screencap this post
>>581082596sure bro, your one of those retards who sees trannies behind every bush.phoenix fire aesthetic will continue to be kino while you seethe about trannies
>>581082358they'll do fine on RP servers. have fun parsing with ESLs, metanigger
>>581083025Eureka has 5x lower CD than UD priest lifetap
>>581082978retgawds will run forever
>>581082868why haven't i ever done this.. seeing the poll maybe i'll join the real /vg/ guild and not the na pretenders
>>581083180one of the nice things about pservers is na and eu get to play togetheryou need a different fucking sub to play on another realmlist here
>>581082978that warlock cuck got bodied lmao
>>581082375yeah, you were raped at the age of 8, and now you think having sex with a dog or cat is okay because you never metnaly developed. keep your sick ideas away from a childs game you pervert. wanting to fuck a dog or cat, and the image you posted has nothing to do with warcraft at all in the slightest, its all self insertion fag shit because your a raped man. grow the fuck up retard and read the room you autist faggot.
>>581083273oh okay, that's why.
if only i was born in california instead of milan I could have been in Asmongold's realm...
>>581082978staged
EU, Roleplay, Alliance<free use>skyborne only
>>581082624those are the people playing on classic servers btwthey are so insanely bad that they need every little advantage they can get
I want to be excited but I just can’t…It’s not even about the content of the lack there of. I think I’m simply done with worlo…
>>581083582Nothing else to do
>>581083582take a long walk and try to remember and reignite the fire of youth
>>581083025>Stun reduction, blood fury and curse removal + magic damage>VS>Escape artist and eurekagotta look at what you're going to be up against though. as an orc you gotta face humans and gnomes and NE, and the few fuckers playing dwarf shaman cause even if most dwarf racials are meh, stoneform is still insane. Play alliance and the only race that sucks to fight against is an orc. So even if orc still is the overall "king", he's got nothing but peasants to fight along side him vs a shitload of actual contenders.
>>581080621based
>>581083485Going realmless means the gooners wont be contained anymore
Everyone channel your energies into them announcing an RPPVP realm.
>>581085976rp realms will do as containers
if alliance can be shamans it's dumb that bluelfs can't, but also bluelfs are retarded in general
