Previous: >>581083072>What is WoW: Fivever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes September 17th, you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1>What realm are (you) playing in? (poll)https://poal.me/2hc6amhttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
yes
REDDIT BROS DONT FORGET TO /spit ON EVERY SKYBORNE YOU SEE
pvpchads run this gen
>>581093329I can't, it keeps missing and hitting the floor...
What's fury pvp like? The new mobility talents look fun as fuck, but RIP having MS
>>581093206Whay does Sylvanass' model look like in for4ever?What aboot Jayna and Varian?Tyranda?
Me? I will /lick every single Sky boy elf I see
Gonna be fun to watch when the pvp server dies in 6 months and they flock to the pve one
>>581093453nobody will know until the beta.
>>581093453retailslop
>>581093219>>581092061It'd be fun if they added a zone behind these portals that open up once the dragon is killed. Like we get to enter the emrald dream but it's so dangerous you need to stay in your raid group to surviveKind of like an open world dungeon, but it's an open world raid. Like the entire zone is just hypertuned like a raid requiring the entire faction to deal with it and kill shit
>>581093342yes>>581093475thats a girl
I have never had a guild in WoW.I want to raid? I make a pug.I am a lone wolf, you either follow me or I will just walk past you.
>>581093206how much fun am i gonna have playing shadow priest on my PvE server?
Are you all ready to have fun?
>>581093329gonna spit on that blue futa cawk
>the forever announcement nvked /wowcg/, /wowg/ and /wpsg/
>>581093529careful with that edge you might cut yourself
>>581093206Blue elves = S E X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwhFJUP-dPY>runescape just shadowdropped their new game because they know nobody is playing this shit the moment Forever hits
>>581093475neck your fucking self jeet faggot
>>581093305i've never played warlock but i associate it so much with soul link, is it fun as a glass cannon? i thought survivability was the main attraction. if i wanted to just dps and die i'd play mage.
For me>PvE ruleset main>Rogue alt on PvP ruleset to have fun griefing people when I'm boredWho else is maining PvE?
>>581093629Why are you so upset buddy?
>>581093529fucking cool...
>>581093587>survival streamer fotm trashI'm gud
>>581093638? u get 15% more stamina
>>581093587>shadowdroppednigger it's been announced months ago>>581093475based
>>581093305why not sl/sl
Powercreep is crazy in this version, everything is going to be piss easy like in wotlk.
the REAL classic+ experience
They said the raid difficulty will be around TBC levels. So if you wanted challenging pve, this ain't it
>>581093653>Who else is maining PvE?there is no pvp in forever, they're not adding arena
What does azamaous think of wow forever?
>>581093475Make him look like a man then
>>581093746its pve build. idc about pvp.
>>581093784good.
>>581093523iirc the emerald nightmare was established as a thing back in vanilla but it was only ever mentioned. i think malfurion was asleep trying to deal with it until cataclysm, which is why we didnt see him in game until then.So that Idea could conceivably work.
>>581093775Gotta love how the turtle shills would rag on Ascension endlessly about their cash shop wile they where selling the exact same shit.
>>581093653pve leveling is too boring. maybe hc -> transfer to pve
>>581093529lone wolves get rapedt.picrel
>>581093784Go to retail if you want "challenging" pve you fucking tranny
>>581093305>not going for 50% dmg reduction buildngmi. I'll see you in wsg, kiddo. and you won't see me until your ded :^)
>>581093775OH MY SOVL!!!
>>581093587Don't forget that Forever killed retail(slop) wow as well!
>>581093784People that want challengeslop can and should play retoilet anyway
REPEAT AFTER MEFALLING FOR IT AGAINTHIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENTTHERE WILL BE NO WOW TOKENTHERE WILL BE NO CASH SHOPTHERE WILL BE NO BOTSFELL FOR IT AGAINHOOO HOOOHEEE HEEEI DRINK MY OWN PEE AND LICK BLIZZARDS ASSHOLE CLEEEEAN
>summoning stones confirmed not in Forever>Retail Andys are already dominating the conversation about it>TRAVEL TIME ISNT GAME PLAY>NOBODY EVER TALKS IN GAME ANYWAY>MUH SUMMONING BOTS>YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DONT ERA IS RIGHT THERE FOR YOU>MUH 30MIN/WEEK GAMERDAD ALLOWANCE>already this heated and opinionated over something relatively minorThis shit is going tits up the moment they start implementing any feedback.I hope they never start polling like OSRS.
>>581093475They look like this btw
>>581093784Locking BiS gear behind hard mode that dad gamers and pugs can't clear is a great way to kill the game even faster. This was confirmed when Ulduar released.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/chase-items-on-every-raid-boss-the-sun-interview-on-wow-forever-382892This interview is a massive redflag
>>581093587>completely different genretheres also OSRS players who refuse to touch wow in any form, Jagex will still have a playerbase.
>>581093725oh i don't know these talents at all, i see. mind if i steal your build there fren
>>581093804wow! Classic forever! Toime to play! Wooow wot is thiis, blue elves from the skoy?Oh boy let me buy the premium pack yeeah
>>581093751People said that about SoD then all the overworld mobs ended up way tougher
>>581093784>They said the raid difficulty will be around TBC levelsThat is plenty challenging for the vast majority of classic players. Shit, it might even be too hard if anything.
>>581093784TBC is too hard already. Still have nightmares from trying to pug gruul with retarded boomers
>>581093968The problem is blizzard cultivated a shitty audience with retail players.They have to ignore them if they want to make a good game that isn't just a M+/Raiding lobby.
I'm really excited about the bigger draw distance. Being able to actually see Mount Hyjal or Teldrassil tree from darkshore etc. This might make the biggest difference in how we imagine the size of the world.I just hope they dont overdo the fog. I do like fog sometime in duskwood but it needs to be kino.I dont want the size of the world to be hidden in fog.Cant wait to explore the zones in beta boyos. I also hope they made Brill nice and creepy. Maybe the sounds are better too? I have nice headphones and I love immersing myself in the world
I want this 15% shadow damage from sacrificing my imp as an afflication warlock, but all these beginning talents seem fucking useless outside the buff buff and stamina
skyborne really joined the horde after spending thousands of years as an isolated highborne descended civilization living on a magical floating island in the elemental plane of air.>ancient aristocratic lineage>refined magical civilization>thousands of years of isolationand then one day they looked down at orgrimmar and said"yes. these are my people."imagine surviving the war of the ancients, fleeing eldre'thalas, building an entire civilization in skywall and preserving your culture for thousands of years just to end up taking orders from some zug zug orc in a mud hut.the skyborne do NOT belong in horde
>>581093525>arms pvpinto the trash
>>581093746I am going esl/esl, going to facetank every mf
>hard limit on raid size>already gonna be a mix of 10, 20 and 40 mansthis is gonna be a pain in the ass to make guilds and groups for
>>581093914link it fool i ain't no scientist
>>581093875do we know where malfurion sleeps? so that my night elf druid could find him and tell anyone guarding that i'm gonna try talking to him in his sleep and then leave the room with a mouth full of white fluid leaking out, out of my rear end too. whether the druid has located malf in the emerald dream and did it in another dimension or just "tried" to wake him up irl doesn't matter
>>581093968Retail players are about as likely to play Forever as era faggots are to play retail.
>>581093997why?
>it took 4 days for hordeniggers to infest the thread and start their usual gay and cuck porn spamlike clockwork
at first i wasnt a big fan of forever but now its growing on me cause i realized that it enrages multiple camps>retail morons>pserf browns>nillersyep, im thinking forever is based
>>581093968NOOO YOU FUCKING CHUD my one hour gametime a week is very important so Blizzard needs to cater to ME!
>>581094145fake news, imp zerker rage makes no diff if you run around with ur pally fren>>581093875>they do ANYTHING at all with malfurion on foreverkino
Reminder>dungeon mob exp nerfed to the ground, only first time dungeon quests give good exp now>run dungeon once for the quests, move on>mage and paladin aoe nerfed to the ground, after the 4th/5th mob the damage is HUGELY nerfed>no more boosting>no more dungeon spamming to 60WE CANT KEEP WINNING SO MUCH. WERE GONNA GET TIRED OF WINNING.
>>581093892Troondle players are hard filtered by anything post leveling, so xp boosts are a holocaust on them
Do you guys think it's worth it to get the highest tier package?
>>581093653why would anyone ever pick pvp when you can just pick pve and toggle pvp when you feel like it?
>>581094150the 40 mans will be meme catchup raids like vault of archavon i'd guess. 10 man for the ultra casuals, and 20 is the actual size for the challenging content
>>581093775it wouldn't surprise me if bag size increased or bank size increased because we're going to need more items for specific purposes
>Wow players when they get the very essence of wow ACK NOOOOOO
>>581094217At what point did Horde became the cuck spam faction? I don't remember this and I've fucked off from these threads for over a decade
>>581094023Classic...
>>581094150Not really. If you actually raided in classic you'd know guilds would regularly split up to get more gear on stuff like onyxia each week. People where already fine doing 20mans for 40man raids.
>fear that boomkin will be shit again so doubts about playing it>resto shaman will be in high demand but mogged by priests and paladins>resto druid just looks weak>arcane mage looking juiced but extremely boringI refuse to play a melee again but I legit got 0 idea what to play
>>581093784tbc raid difficulty was already pretty hard for most guilds in classic
>>581093980Hot midriff showing whore
>>581093775so a private server did mtx, therefore it's okay for blizzard to do it too? what's the game plan here?
>>581094292I boughted and then refunded because i don’t like wc3
>>581094206Everybody in the retail thread is talking about forever.Everybody in trade chat in retail is talking about what they'll be playing in forever.Everybody in every retail guild I was ever part of is talking about their plans for forever.Even retail players are sick of retail and opine for a reboot.
>>581093206TBC difficulty should be where it's at anyway. Semi-casual guilds take about 3 to 4 weeks to fully clear a raid, and that seems fine. Also TBC, had the best raid development design, with every class having something worthwhile to bring. Wrath started having too much homogenization.
>>581093784you will play mountsmogscheevos bingo with the other senile boomers and you will like it.
>>581094261SEA gold sellers are NOT going to like this. Why can't Blizzard think of their starving families?
>>581094134imagine raising your pristine blue daughter for one thousand years only so she can go to horde college and get ravaged by green 70iq apes who reek of shit
is it true that sky elf boys are obsessed with Orcs?
>>581094292If you want the warcraft 3 reforged + expansion that comes with it, sure. Otherwise, the basic 30 bucks version is the best the others are full of shit nobody actually needs. And in the case of not giving a fuck about blue elves, then the 0 dollar version is the best.
>>581094292no. just wait a little and pirate the new w3 campaign, im buying the epic one for beta access and the 1 month free gametime.
>>581093980Who would even make male sex elf? Especially on Alliance where NEs and humans already exists.
>>581094356Blizzard needs to ignore them, otherwise we'll just get retail again.
>>581094403resto shaman has always outhealed priests in raid, riptide is just going to increase the gap
>>581093305>demonology warlock's signature spell kills the demon and prevents you from resummoning itHUH?!
>>581094292the 60$ one gets you everything for WoW. The 90$ one just adds WC3 stuff.
>>581094292it depends. do you play retail or warIII? do you collect figurines and shit? if so, then yeah maybe. is the second tier worth it- do you want in the beta? if so then yeah maybe. is the bottom tier worth it- do you want blue elf bussy fantasy? then yeah maybe. figure it out dude
how powerful will g2g be in wow forever
>>581094250>not being a giga fast rootless self healing fury machine with 130 rage bar, imp execute, imp interceptarms looks so fucking grim by comparison
>>581094502Yeah you're right
>>581094292Only expensive package worth is the $150 physical collectors that's sold out.
>>581094479That's a girl, make him look like a boy
>>581094479Mine is obsessed with Tauren men. Especially Grimtotem.
rogue better not have any of that pistol bullshit.
>>581094206Retail is literally seasonal. Forever is something that can and probably will be played by them in between down times.
>>581094185Presumably Moonglade in one of the barrow dens? But he wasnt in any of them in vanilla so somewhere else we dont have access to is the most likely answer.In warcraft 3 we just wake him up from a barrow den in ashenvale/felwood area.
>>581094437WoW peaked in Wrath but it started to have issues in Wrath as well. Burning Crusade has the absolute peak for end game. From a broad perspective. Going from Kata all the way to Sunwell was a fun fucking journey that seemed to take forever. Wrath introduced the stupid tokens to skip old content. But it also introduced hard mode hidden behind mechanics in Ulduar which is fucking peak. Unlocking hard mode not by selecting it in a menu but through game play was perfect MMO designAnd then they instantly dropped in in ToC next raid patch which was gay
>>581094528OG Demonology is about the study of demons and becoming a demon.Not being a glorified BM hunter like in retail
is gallywix selling gold in forever yet
>>581094217>you know those savage, violent races who worship strength above all else and are hostile towards strangers who they deem to be a threat to their way of life>actually they're heckin' wholesome chunguserinos who accept everyone and wholeheartedly embrace modern real-world stances on alternative lifestyles, gender and sexuality
>>581094134Surely it's due to the splinter that believes they should be worshipping / always be aligned with the elements. So much so that they said fuck it to magic entirely, and only do shamanism. I suppose they looked at dwarves and said "what the fuck?"
>>581094635it might have throwing weapon stuff but combat rogue is not outlaw rogue
>>581094528Check the final talent dude
>>581094261>mage and paladin aoe nerfed to the ground, after the 4th/5th mob the damage is HUGELY nerfedsingle greatest change in the game
i find it funny that classic, retail, and pserver trannys are all coping right now. The fact that they let trannys tmog in forever and allow normal people to turn off tmog is even funnier, just like in real life they can have a desluion of looking like somthing they are not while normal people view them as they are.
>>581094292its the epic™ pack for me, friend!
>There's more story with the Magram and Gelkis centaurs which continues on from Desolace.It's happening
https://kotaku.com/new-things-learned-world-of-warcraft-forever-2000734005>Jones and Nuthals didn’t confirm specifics on how add-ons would work, but Nuthals did say that “the in-game or in-combat add-on disarmament where the programmatic, the calculations done to automate marking or communicating for players, we’re going to bring that over so that players will not have access to those kind of computational add-ons.”addon trannies on suicide watch
>>581094502>beta access and the 1 month free gametimeIt's cheaper to just buy a month of gametime so you're really only buying it for beta access. Paying for beta is crazy, and it won't even carry over.
>>581094759WE DON'T FUCKING CARESTOP POSTING REDDITFUCK OFF YOU MASSIVE FUCKING NIGGER
>>581094759>look mom i posted it again i just can't stop thinking about trannies
is there a benefit to wearing a full set of armor intended for your class (ie. paladins only wear plate, etc) or is it still ffa depending on what stats you need
>>581094403>I refuse to play a melee againI can only play melees in classic, I don't get the point of playing a caster with a boring rotation and outdated plain looking spell effects.
>>581094261>mage and paladin aoe nerfed to the groundgood but also source but also this is a buff to DPS warriors because of Cleave and WW so what the fuck Blizzard
We're so fucking back!
>is raising a blue elf daughter the ultimate cuck?think about it logically
>>581093775Retards walking around 24/7 with this noise pollution nigger robot and the mule was the most obnoxious part about turtle
thoughts?
>>581094250Hyjal and/or the barrow dens would be the best time but as far as anyone knows he wont be involved.
>>581093525your build but better
>>581094261how am I supposed to farm gold on my mage if I can't endlessly aoe spam SM/ZF at 60?
>people posting talent builds alreadyI know it's exciting to theorycraft but 99% chance there is a bunch of talent changes when the beta hits. The demo from Blizzcon was a much earlier build that had loads of unfinished stuff in it.
>>581093980looks spanish
>>581094931same
>>581094675I agree with the hard mode design being within the raid completely, and I would bet we might get that again instead of heroics or mythics or whatever. But I hope that the class design is similar to TBC. No one can do everything, but each class brings a buff or debuff to a raid that is highly desired depending on the other classes in the raid. Survival hunter's expose weakness, for example.
dont do it. dont optimize the fun out of the game. when you realize what you have done you will be ashamed of your words and deeds
>>581094918Genuinely an assload of content and I love it
>>58109491815 levels?!
>>581094785i just hope that warcraftlogs will still exist, majority of us play this game for parsing
>Of course I will join a Soft Reserve guild for Forever and get 0 loot!
>>581094820you also get full dorf mountaineer mog set with matching mount, playable elves with full mog set and matching mount, and companion pets
>>581094785The "addon disarmament" in retail has been a complete failure. It won't be any different in Forever.
>>581094479this you?
>>581094918Kroldok is 40-45 but its nice to have some new shit.
>>581094918>40-55 lvl rangeWtf?
>>581094759Turn on your transmog or i'll kill mysel-ACK
>>581094918What the fuck are they cooking with Krol'dol genuinelyAlso, Drowned City (35-40) having a lvl 45 shark hanging around as shown in the blizzcon beta is hiliarious, and I like this kind of hostile game design decisions
>>581094918krol dok strong hold is 40-45, she mispoke.
>>581094821>>581094840lmfao
>>581094918I hope Krol'dok is a big fucking maze like blackrock caverns.
>>581094778Allegedly, the retail writers are staying on retail. Some blizz person said this at blizzcon, but I can't remember what panel. Was probably an interview.
>>581094931Literally just call the mods. Eventually they get so annoyed with reports against the same thing being spammed they bonk him
https://youtu.be/F5IkUCB9W-Q
My friend invited me to his guild but I don't want to play with him, how do I tell him without breaking his heart?
come one whales. post your codes.
>>581094918kino
>>581095179Normally like an adult or lead him on without ever giving a straight answer like a woman.
>>581095179Same way you tell your annoying family you don't want to suffer through their forced gatherings.
>>581095089probably just layered like the outdoors troll pyramid in hinterlands, or multiple pathways like brd, or could even be multiple instances like SM
>>581095052>raided with a SR guild in anniversary classic>showed up for every reset of naxx except one for 11 weeks>didn't win a single item I still prefer this system to loot council where the guild will inevitably fall apart when people start bickering over who gets what
>>581095179just tell him, he will understand
>>581095198They are giving them to their friends, you would only post them here if you're a friend less loser
>>581095089It's probably like SM or DM with different wings
>>581094918I'm most excited for Excavation Site and The Shapers Terrace. What will Shapers Terrace be if not ST?
any retail players here know anything about the possibility of modding assets on the retail client? Can you still do that or is it bannable or something? I used to mute annoying in game sounds by placing empty loose files in the same directory as the stock effect, is that still possible?I also wouldn't mind throwing all the ancient vanilla textures through an AI upscaler.
>>581095132>I look j-just like gigachadironic
>>581095321yes sir this general is full of friendlish bangalesh now share code
>>581095356whats ST?
>>581095304This is exactly why people loved GDKP's so much. Even if you didn't get any loot you'd always leave with a big bag of gold.
She's had the only good opinion on wow forever. Unless this game turns up the good writing and holds true to how brutal it can be its going to just be retail minus.
>by setting your language to japanese or korean you can match with asian qts in your local areathis is too much power
>>581094918krol'drok is 40-45 btw it got updated
>>58109491840-55 seems wild I imagine it is split into wings like sm and this chart doesn't represent thatshapers terrace and blackmaw hold are the only two that really matter
>>581095405Sunken Temple of course. Maybe it'll be ShT, but that sounds like SHIT.
>>581094918[5] Bubbletime TTV: LFM HoT, sneed's feed and seed HR, no paladins/warriors. need tank + heal
>>581095089It was corrected to 40 45, there was a blue post about it
any Orc hunters here? what pet will you tame?im thinking of a young sky elf boyidc if lone wolf will be the meta im playing with my boy
Are the new elves blue because there's no Draenei and this is their compromise between the horny elf enjoyers and the space goat fuckers.
>>581095451Buy an add faggot.
>>581095458Does that work? Do you only get matched with people with the same language even if you're the only one in America playing japanese on?
high class elves teaming up with orcs is not tolkien-esque. what the fuck were blizzard thinking? elves are supposed to be a pure, insular race that keeps its bloodline pristine
>>581095451>Unless this game turns up the good writing and holds true to how brutal it can bethis is virtually impossible with the current state of blizzard so it 100% be retail-
So bros, what are the chances they make another sprawling dungeon like BRD?
>>581095089They corrected to 40-45
>join beta >study everything, try classes, force your friends to repeatedly duel you to engineer tier lists >meticulously edit a 1 and a half hour video to release a week before launch for massive prestige and upcummies>you're going to be a millionaire streamer and get sponsorships and hang out with all the streamerGODS>the day before you finish and upload it blizzard changes every class and nerfs everything that was OP >kill yourself shortly thereafterbring me this horizon
did this general attract retailers?
>>581095598It's based on language and location so yes. I think it balances it a bit though so if you're in middle of fucking nowhere Murica it'll still pair you with people much farther away who know the language.
is Forever reworking skills and abilities or is it going to be 75% auto-attacks?
>>581094918>>581095089how is a horde nigga supposed to do hall of thanes? they said something about sneaking in as horde but shieeet
>>581095613See >>581094706>>581095585They really didn't need to be blue. If they only had human skin tones, or just white tones which would be better, then they would be a lot more accepted.
>>581095698retail is a dead game, so retail sissies have no choice but to move on to forever
>>581095592They should've added an add to classic
the 'tube is already being spammed by tier list faggots. it's not looking good
>>581095451>another stupid hole milking good gelded paypiggies by pretending to have narrative expertise and the capacity to criticize "writing" you get what you deserve
>>581095613>skelves being with horde doesnt make sense!all future retards asking this question need to refer to the chart.
>>581095756> is Forever reworking skills and abilitiesYes
>>581095518>implying all the retroons won't be playing the new edgy and shiny undead palas
>>581095698We had a lot of ai porn spam but shockingly the mods are dealing with it>>581095756It's heavily reworked the class fantasy in a way that's actually fun. So now more "vanilla warrior tank needs to spam nothing but sunder armor to keep threat" and you can actually boomkin
RIP IN PISS PSERFS RETOILETS CLASSITHS
>>581095832of course it is, all the boomers and zoomers are asking for it in every single game they play
>>581095763Goblin teleporter shenanigans again? Maybe shaman shenanigans where an elemental takes you through the earth?
>>581095451
>>581093968Who the hell are you talking about I havent seen a peep of this
>>581095837>wow classic doesnt need good writing!
>>581095837how is it 'pretending' if she puts up good arguments and critiques against the current state of wow?
>>581094820i mean im eager to try out the beta just to fuck around with different classes and help decide what to play, its all good and fine looking at others videos and reading wowhead datamined shit, but unless you try it yourself you cant get the feel for a spec or class. also bear mount looks cool for my dwarf.
>>581095765But they do have white skin tones.
>>581095763Teleporter like we had for gnomer.
>>581095845All those BE players can go back to alliance for all I care
>>581095845It's a foid problem. Women will only play attractive races. So without it the Horde is nothing but a sausage fest and will always be a smaller population.
generate sky elf milfs
Kalimdor loading screen
>>581095972>browned ahh no ty
>>581095832NOOOOOO WHICH TIER IS PRIEST IM NOT GONNA GET INVITES AAAAHHHHHH
>>581096024>So without it the Horde is nothing but a sausage fest and will always be a smaller population.good.
>>581095491they already posted that it was a typo and it's 40-45.
>>581095924gross fat pig arms, but she's got nice tits, so I'd plap her while she tells me how much she loves the aesthetic of warcraft 3
>>581095451fuck that racemixing bitch, shes always goonbating and shes fat.
>>581095179Offer him oral servicing to show him that he matters to you
>>581095845With pallies being on undead this time, and elves being paygated, it might be less elves!>>581096002I said, "only had." As in, they should have zero blue skin options, and just white skin options.
>>581096024No it is a gook problem (why do you think they all love gacha over there)
>anons are still pretending they would play fuck ugly ass ogres (no one would)
fyi im not a retoileter i hate that game and people who play it dont lump me in with them
Anything I should know before I play Warlock?
>>581095458You will just get paired with bunch of weebs that did it instead.
>>581096139did they measure the churn rate of not being able to type "/spit"?
Eastern Kingdoms loading screen
>>581095845>lets recreate the same race imbalance!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>581094307you want to play on the server that's full of bots?
Do the sky elves just not have a capital? Will Dalaran work as one for the Alliance ones? I'm a bit confused about the floating island and the faction split since they're not neutral.
>>581095763the foid that talked about it at blizzcon said something about horde 'digging their way inside' while winking at the camera, so I assume they're gonna make a backdoor entrance to it from the wetlands or some shit like that
>>581096139Korea has just weird issues with beauty
>>581095451stop posting my waifu on this degenerate board
>>581095980It really doesn’t. I’ve played a lot of classic and I played vanilla way back when. I never read any quests. I don’t care about your faggy ass lore. Just don’t make me watch any cutscenes and I don’t give a fuck what you write about. Just tell me which type of boar ass you want me to collect and where to collect it. That’s all I need to be happy.
>>581096139its both
>>581096139That's really interesting. Did other East Asian countries have the same opinion? For example, did Japan not play Horde due to "monster races"?
>>581096053so i know whats in red:Silithus, 1kneedles, TB, Desolace, Dire Maul.But whats in green?
>>581096127>>581096127>her arguments are bad because they just are! Retail is so good!
>>581096053>>581096238AI slop
>>581095845>posting data with the irrelevant alt characters that weren't logged in for 10 yearsin reality it's actually even worse
>>581094307>toggle pvp when you feel like that hahahahahaha he doesnt know
>>581096238some sus castles on the right
>>581095451Her BBC leaks are unbelievable
>>581096308Dire Maul
>>581096282Shes definitely not ugly and Id blow up her sphincter, but looks kind of pudgy on all those photos
Whats the most annoying/enraging behaviour to you from other people in-game? For me its>the abbreviating things like instead of saying yes or me they type +also>LOL U PICKED x race gender combo you are bad YOU ARE BAD (the human male show cloak show helm insult)
>>581096308Uldum
Are we still crying about gnomes?It's bullshit that noshoes aren't the undisputed kings of pvp racialsOrcs? we don't talk about orcsTrolls bandage on steroids? nvm themUDs woft? who caresTaurens extra HP and war stomp? It's fucking nothing man
>>581095451>>581095924Women like this are nice until you think about how they all got these male-coded hobbies from their previous boyfriend
>>581095845elfies are kinosimple asthe other retail races just look retarded with their gay animations, maybe they look ok in 4ever
>>581096119counterpoint: she's russian, does that affect your decision?
>>581096250pvp servers don't prevent bots
>>581096250there's no servers anymore anonyou VILL share the zones with bots who VILL tag all your mobs and take all your herbs and ore
TSM is a screamer dude I just got an email from them, I don’t even have tsm installed and haven’t used it in like 8 years. They noticed my account resubbed somehow, and sent me an email begging me to install their shit addon again. TSM is so fucking shit they nerfed like every good part of the addon and now you need to write your own lua to post efficiently. Yeah anyways fuck you TSM, I get enough fucking emails from retarded faggots already.
>>581096345I am dying to see the updates to the original zones. I am very fond of places like westfall and having content be added to it instead of existing content being destroyed is great
>>581096127Racemixing??
>>581096134>it might be less elves!dont kid yourself, skelves can also be druids. Youre going to see like 5 tauren per rule set.
>>581096373I am a grown up, nothing affects me, sorry.
>>58109575680%+ of my damage done on Blizzcon was autoattacks.You can see on the talents that even the retail-ish rotational abilities have long cooldowns.
>>581096313no one gives a fuck about le story tranny, also it has objectively gotten increasingly less disney since tr*nnyflight
>>581094261>Want to run dungeon>No tanks or healers>If any join, they roll on dps itemsKek
>>581095372and this is what you look like, no matter how hard you toggle IRL
So whats the consensus so far?Are we back or is it over?
>>581096238>>581096053I like them.
>>581094690>half the talent tree improves your summoned demonwhat
>>581096308Maybe that's the Shaper's Terrace? Kind of looks like the titan buildings from Wrath in Sholazar which had an asset or two in Ungoro
>>581096282What a lovely girl
I never cared about forsaken until I decided to learn about their lore. Now I’m sold
>>581095451>>581095924Someone gen porn of this slam pig.
>>581096519wait for the beta chuddie
>>581096475Oof. Yeah that's true, didn't think about that. I heard plainsrunning works in druid forms though, other than travel form so the speed don't stack.
>>581096519It's so over we're back
>>581096308Shen DralASS
>played pala as main for 18 years>blizz announce forever, making palas OP>fotm sweaty normgroids will all roll pala and fill up all pug contentthey better make palas c tier buff slaves before nov launch or else
>>581096321It's not my fault night elves have the best jump and the best starting zone
>>581096516if this is on leveling dungeons it doesnt matter. if its max level then yeah. which is why when i tank i make my own groups and dont invite classes that need what i need for my dps spec.
>>581095179during brojob
How would you guys update the "totally not a capital city" places like Theramore without adding an auction house or a bank?
>>581096373>the abbreviating things like instead of saying yes or me they type +this. for me its when they abbreviate spells like typing "ss" for sinister strike. like, wtf are you doing bro?
>I will advocate every day for ogres but I would NEVER EVER play one
>>581093968there's an easy compromise here, make travel methods faster. Increase flightpath speed, have multiple alternating boats/airships etc. You don't have to resort to teleporting everywhere for everything.
>>581096392Boyfriends as in plural lil bro
SHAMAN TALK1. what races and specsorc - If you want to be elemental primarytauren - If you want to try tanking.troll - Berserking benefits melee/healing/casting, so best all rounder, I'll be going this.skyborne - 1% haste is just really boringdwarf - you have no choice2. specsenhance - great for solo efficiency esp with shamanistic focus, while it can tank 5 mans I am not attracted to putting in extra effort just to be a second-tier tank compared to other classes, would rather heal in group contentele - looks like very powerful group dps and higher level levelingresto - maybe one of the most powerful healers in the game now, no classic weaknesses anymore with a HoT and mana regenLeveling specs: primary enhance / secondary restorationLevel specs: primary restoration / secondary elemental
>>581096139It was similar everywhere.https://nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/cat_wow_data.php
>>581096519(0% we're so back/10% it's overBlue elves and retail UI are the worst parts
>>581096512>Nobody gives a fuck about the story! The jailer was just as good as Arthus you bigot!
>>581096368Dire Maul is in red, it has that iconic curved entrance.
>>581096630nice falseflag, shitskin
>>581096402> she's russianMy penis just burst through my jeans
>>581095687I hope this happens since that's actually what a beta should be used for
>>581096663was this foreseen the average american, they were truly genius
>>581096519we're so back
>>581096402how does her nationality affect her ability to receive my erect member into all of her holes?
>>581096308It's that new zone between Desolace and Mulgore. They talked about it briefly but I can't remember what it's called. Was an old elf ruin and might be a dungeon or something.
>Anne Stickney@ShadesogreySep 15, 2026 Yes, I am a part of Forever's team.DOAOA
>>581096651i can almost understand abreviating long words that take time to type like sinister strike. but do you really save that much time typing + when asked if you need an item or if you wanna do another run instead of typing YES or ME
>>581095451zeplabros im sorry im forever team angelika+
>>581094665thank you for a lead, guess i found a quest for my rp realm journey in wow forever, you know so much about the game
>>581094261multi doting classes are eating good
>>581096649Easy, do what they did in TBC with Honor Hold. Add reputation to it and vendors and daily quests.
>>581096518no, this is me.
>>581095972are you the original slopsmith or are you his copycat?
>>581094604desu 130 full rage execute looks sick, looking forward to try it out>>581094918sick>>581094940id choose +10 max rage instead of a single point in bloodcraze>>581096053>>581096238kino>>581096519we're so backt.massreply fag
>>581096771Who?
Shamans Mindfulness and Stormstirke Mana regen don't stack right?
>>581096402NAME???? Russian women are absolutely and by far the most degenerate, sexcrazed sluts in existence. You're one vodka away from getting deepthroated and given backside access right away
>>581094261Nooo this is bad becaue.... it just is okay????what about the casual player who totally exists that is going to be doing the dungeon over and over again huh????
>MOOOOM I COPY PASTED A REDDÍT POST AGAIN IN /WOWFG/ >YES ITS FUNNIER THE 100TH TIME HAHA
>>581096854The OG
>>581096621>>581096767Thats between feralas/desolace/mulgore. all clearly to the north of the green. The green is right above Ungoro.>>581096557probably the most likely answer, but i would have through that was in Ungoro itself
>>581096767I think it's too far south to be Shen'dralas. I think that should between Dire Maul and Thunder Bluff
>>581096676Would LOVE if shaman really can reliably tank 5-mans even at 60. I also think trolls have the best totems so I will likely be troll. I do like blood elf casting animations though.
why does wow forever feel like retoilet?
>>581096649Give them daily quests that are level appropriate and they give decent exp but you can't solo them.
what are we doing here guys. we can't coalesce to one location if we're nearly literally evenly split across every option (except EU where obviously chuds are in control)
>>581096663Sylvanas' secret boyfriend(s)
>>581096924Then I humbly request you try giving your skelf hair feathers like the in game models have because it's hot asf.
>>581096889absolutely it doesyou're sacrificing a lot to get both
>we don't go to Outlands because there can't be a TBC>the whole reason we were "tricked" into going there was because the Burning Legion was being threatened by how strong he was getting>now Illidan is never stopped from gaining powerInteresting. What does Illidan do if he's never stopped?
>>581096994wdym?
>>581096707To me they’re basically the same. I didn’t play Shadowlands, but if it weren’t for the fact that I played WC3 I’d know about as much about arthas as I would the jailer. Didn’t read any quests in wrath. He was just another bad guy to kill. Shit, I still have no idea what wrath is even about. But I enjoyed playing it.
>>581096669>I will advocate every day for ogres but I would NEVER EVER play onethink about it this way, everyone would rather play a game with ogres than one without them
>>581096889they almost certainly do
>>581096516Why are people acting like the XP was the big chase for people to do dungeons? People went for the quests and the items. It's only nu-wow parsetrannies that started doing the whole dungeon boost meta en masse
>>581096676last line is supposed to be>Level 60 specs
>>581096676shamans are not tanks iin forever it is not like sod. aggrend already said shaman and warlock tanks are not a thing, yet. maybe enhance and ele are viable, but thats it. obviously you can do whatever the fuck while you are leveling
>>581096649travel hub, as theramore always was in classic. and as another anon said, add a rep track to it. People will go there for travel or rep reasons.>>581096963How would you know that. I wasnt aware everyone got to play it yet.
>>581096849based, body every single tranny, fur fag, and no shoe. they will never recover from blizzcon 2026.
i want to play ever class except paladin and i don't know how im going to pick my maindo i just roll a pair of dice?
>>581096926Alright then, its UnGoros Titan Terrace, it looks likr the structures in Sholazar Basin
>>581089569really kinda lame my email with blizzard games goes back to d2 so should be at least 2000
>>581097048
>>581097105Try them a bit during the beta
>>581096870>Who?retail's narrative designer
LMAO his first video was so bad and stupid that he had to immediately backpedal
are we getting any beach areas?
>>581097037it's tied across nearly every option. it's a useless poll that doesn't help us determine anything. where the fuck are we playing
>>581095924peasant phenotype
>>581096437pvp and pve are separate with a separate auction house, hans>>581096407they sure as shit help
>>581096924God bless you anon
>>581096978>Give them daily quests that are level appropriate and they give decent exp but you can't solo them.>but you can't solo them.I like this distinction a lot. More group quests are good. Maybe even raid quests>>581097030Wasn't his plan to get so strong he could oppose the Arthas when he moved on Azeroth?
>>581094872All AoE is becoming a 4 mob thing. Full damage for 4 mobs, a lot less for any after. For channeling spells, I am wondering if it's based on per cast, or if one of the first 4 dies, is the next mob getting the full damage of the original 4?
>>581097156that guy is so cringe, he larps as a viking but wont go on a diet to stop being so fat.
Retired former professional Vanilla WoW player Kungen says he's all in on WoW Forever
>>581096924stupid boy needs to grow huge shoulders and huge arms and huge peen
>>581097182Well...if it's tied evenly what's the issue, those of the coalition of the willing will pull the strings, the rest will just go on their own anyone is free to join
>>581097019>>581097061Guess its a question of how much mp5 etc you can get on new gear to make it worth it, or not worth it, for ENH to pick up Mindfulness. Hard to tell without seeing new items
>>581097149LOL, thank god I just auto accept and auto turn in quests
>>581096963Forever is the current nuBlizz vision of rebooting WoW. It's a blender of both versions.
>>581097156How the fuck do you do a 180 that hard in like two days?
My speedrun guide, so I think the world record holder might be retarded. He does actually literally EVERY quest and even kills gray mobs, he spends like hours killing green mobs too. Like if you actually time shit out, it’s terrible to do that. My speedrun is much better and the goal of my route was to reach darkshore at level 12 without missing any quests. And, this actually meant I would be completing the first buzzbox quest without even killing one green crab. How did I achieve this? Simple route strategizing basically what I do. I skip tons of quests and do them later! Simple as, I leave Elwynn at lvl 8. And, I come back at level 14. You actually only lose like 500xp by doing it this way. Yeah and if I stop getting like the shittiest fucking RNG I might actually be able to complete a run. Yeah I almost like mentally I just disqualify the world record holder, he got like every possible RNG win and it looks almost like hacking or cheating basically like he completes low drop rate quests wayyy too quickly, he always has a potion he drinks like he’s never had one before he just keeps looting them. Its fucked up how important good rng is in these speedruns.
>>581097030he's gonna go to therapy and deal with his traumathen he will return home to darnassus and watch while tyrande cucks him with a bunch of nubile young priestesses
>>581097014
>>581097030Maybe he surges through the Dark Portal in a content patch with Kael and Vashj and still becomes a raid final boss.
>>581096994i will play on roleplay eu and pvp eu during the beta to make an educated decision on where to play for the release
>>581097156He spent the entire video doing huge extrapolations because the cinematic wasn't to his liking.
>>581097156BUYAFUCKINGAD
>>581097156Lmfao what a fag. I guess he misjudged how people would feel about the game.
>>581096771>>581097149She must have a lower role than we think. They said that retail writers are staying on retail.
>>581096676>troll - Berserking benefits melee/healing/casting, so best all rounder, I'll be going this.lol no, orc is the melee and allrounder while troll is the best casterTauren best tank if they add tanking down the line>shamanistic focusnot in the game
Kungen is talking about molten core and how cool it was back in the day (watching old footage).https://www.twitch.tv/kungentv
>>581096918>MOOOOMMY HOLLY I COPY PASTED A REDDÍT POST AGAIN IN /WOWFG/, YES ITS FUNNIER THE 100TH TIME HAHAthank you mommy for ending all the fags
>>581097326Holy based, looks amazing.
>>581096238
The Skyborne are growing on me, ngl
Why is this thread moving so fast and why is there so many FFXIV people in here?
>>581097086>>581097282i hope im wrong and it gets better but from what i experienced it felt like the last expansion i played which was battle for azeroth and i didnt liek that
>>581097326Can you do one with a feather in her mouth?
>>581094690>entire tree is about biffing your demon>final talent is Soul Link>in order to get Soul Lin, you must get Sacrifice>Sacrifice doesn't benefit the tree or vice versaOriginal Demonology was probably the most retarded spec in all of vanilla. Forever fixes this with Demonic Pact.
>>581097278you get the hit talent there too it's fine
>>581097436The Skyborne girls are growing on me. Universal fleshlights.
>>581097452>Why is this thread moving so fastclassic+ fresh HYPE
during TBC I traded my rogue main account for an account with almost all classes leveled up, after a while I wish I never traded roguethis time I will only stick to rogue and never abandon it, it's the only fun class in pvp, open world, rp, pve.
/wowfg/ is rolling pvp pve will be inundated with botsrp will be inundated with tranniespvp is the only sensible ruleset for chuds
>>581097412I hate Twitch, even with adblock and ublock I still get bombarded.I never watch it, fuck that.
>>581097196>pvp and pve are separate with a separate auction house, hansso the change from separate servers to "rule sets" is pretty much meaningless since the players from the different rulesets won't be able to interact at all?
>>581097163post the view from behind
>>581097517need scripts to put into ublock from twitchadsolutions github
Why should I care about a washed up streamer who played this game 20 years ago? He’s not relevant in the grand scheme of things
>>581097326SEXOOOOO
>>581097326Lay a huge tauren cock across her face.
>>581097393titles like narrative designer also mean nothing and only serve to establish seniority. these are committee games decided by committee and it's obvious. there isn't an iota of natural storytelling anywhere since it was an garage-corporation of codemonkeys and one dude who didn't smoke that much weed and could therefore write stories
>>581097452in case you haven't noticed WOWF has set the internet on fire
Bros, just give it to me straight. Are paladins going to be better farmers than warriors? I'll probably do low level dungeon grinds for gold so I was wondering...
i will play forever and i will have fun
>>581097426Orage looks like RiverlandsGreen looks like the hinterlands emerald dream portal tree.
>>581095924how's her footgame?
>>581097536The sexiest pov for me is always the bent over and looking from behind
>>581097474>on
It's either female human warrior or the blue elfs for the new starting zone and playing a druid. Do we know anything about how the rank system works?
>>581097412looks so kino everyone was having fun
requesting skyborne feet
>>581097364He wanted pic related instead
>>581097628>Are paladins going to be better farmers than warriors? I'll probably do low level dungeon grinds for gold so I was wondering...just level a mage alt and aoe farm for gold
>>581097628AoE is nerfed. >>581097224
>>581097628fuck off pablo not funding your rmt bullshit
yeill be playing skyborne horde druid
>>581097678Why is she so flat?
>>581097456They're trying real hard to get new blood into the game. Retail can't and classic can only do so much.
>>581097762isn't it great?
>>581097713>turns spanish language layers only >no more niggers, muslims, broken english, fat americans yeah I am thinking pablo is winning
ITS OVER
>>581097163Anon if you're gonna spam this thread can I at least humbly ask that you have some respect for the subject matter and count their fingers first?(How is AI still not capable of getting hands right?)
>>581097695not for shamans fire nova ;)
>>581097715I hope your skyboy likes the company of tauren men and sweaty zugzugs
>>581097686
>>581097408Orc racial bloodfury doesn't appear to increase healing, just spell power so for that reason I don't say it's an all rounder.Shamanistic focus is an enhance talent that reduces mana cost of shocks and lightning shield by 45%.
>>581097768>They're trying real hard to get new blood into the game.then they should've added ogres as a playable race
why did they have to make sky elves so sexy?
Is it true that warlock summon has a 1-hour cooldown in Forever?
>gank some retailoid>known faces systems ensures I meet them again and again>retailoid is forced to switch to a layer with a different language>24 hour cd to switch backI can't wait for the seething
>>581097647>>581097426forgot image like a dumbass.
>>581097253And there are faggots trying to convince me we are not SO FUCKING BACK!!
>>581097859that's based though?>>581097882make one get breed by human male
>shaman doesn't have dual-wieldinto the trash it goesWF fucking sucks without it
>>581097156This feels low even for him. From half an hour of crying about CGI cinematic to this?
>>581097882this semen demon already made me empty them 4 times..>>581097845oy vey stop noticing
>>581097919I wouldn't mind this just to kill the spam of brownoid taxi services farming 1g per summon in every zone
>>581097859Based.
>>581097628>gold gold gold its about the journey now slavmonkey
>>581097695Hmmm I wonder how I'm gonna make gold then, I like grinding shit...
>>581097859I am very happy they aren't abandoning 40 man raids. Also isn't there room for different raids to require horizontal progression with resistances? Like imagine a raid deeper than molten core that requires incredibly high fire resistance. Or an emerald dream raid that requires high nature resistance. You wouldn't need to make "number go up" on the gear but instead specifically find gear for that environment to raid in.
it doesnt matter if it's shit, the first month will be kino and we can all quit after that
>>581097870I'm interesting if they do it for every class. They might forget hunter's Volley entirely, or fire nova as you said. Or Warlock's Rain of Fire vs. Hellfire.
>>581096707Yes. Jailor was actually somewhat original as opposed to le vader clone.
>>581097762Because that anon has exquisite taste in elves
most of us will be looking for a new fresh around christmas
>>581098028I thought the same thing, and I think they probably will do resistances, but they probably don't want to have that be the only thing.
>>581097678thank you!
>>581098043I keep thinking this, there's no need to keep playing it if it's shit. Just move on
>>581097479Demonoly tree sucks apart from soul link itself.I didn't even care that the destro/demon split spec was the best raiding spec because sm/ruin is infinitely more fun to play in almost every circumstance.
>>581097882mommy..i'll get you beta if you behave..
>>581097937Isn't there supposed to be a giant fuck ass tree in each of the three corners of the world?
>>581097971https://files.catbox.moe/o8ex7f.png
>>581097090you will never not be indian
what's the best choice if I want to play as an evil black magic man, shadow priest or one of the warlock specs?
>>581096363please stop I'm caged...
>>581098043that's what I'm doing regardlessafter a month it's on to poe2 1.0
>>581098106Lmfao no one will ever want to play another vanilla fresh again.
>>581098043>the first month will be kino and we can all quit after thatas retarded as nu-blizzard is they will probably not add enough content after month>>581098191wew
>>581097979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja1j7xWpB3wBREAKING ME DOWN
>>581098165demo tree is juicy for pvp and that is all that matters
>>581097301Bundle for trouble was an interesting quest because you can do it at lvl 15 and get full xp and each wood you loot is like worth a full same lvl mob kill basically. And Rolf is right there too, so that’s an easy thing to NOT complete at lvl 7 when we’re meant to be doing it. And then you can also grab princess at lvl 15, because one gray kill isn’t really a huge loss. And we’re doing the price of shoes quest regardless because when you map it all out this run from redridge to goldshire at lvl 14 is extremely xp efficient. And we keep going and turn in everything we saved up at goldshire and goldtooth and such, that’s when we enter Westfall and we’ve already got the murloc eyes and okra will be free and we will be killing all equal level mobs basically and complete every quest. It just flows way too well. I still haven’t found a way to include hogger. Because we CANT solo it at lvl 6, we could possibly at lvl 8 with incredible RNG. And if we’re not doing it at lvl 8, it’s probably just not happening because we won’t revisit goldshire until lvl 22. The record speedrunner kills hogger at 10, but I just don’t think it’s a good idea, it seems really bad way to do hogger.
>>581097156this is a dwarflord board chuddy
So on a spectrum of Night Elf to Blood Elf with Nightborne being "center Blood Elf" the Skyborne are "center Night Elf"? I wonder to what degree their culture is druidic given the architecture but it could also just be a result of not having the resources necessary to build anything out of anything other than wood.
>>581093784Sunwell was pretty hard. Casuals would get turbo filtered if they go that way.
>>581096436Truth nuke.Game will be dead from troon elves being there.Not even joking.
>>581098028The itemization is pretty interesting. They have hinted at a couple things. X'caliboar from Razorfen Downs increases your damage against Undead and Swine enemies by 3 times. So I would imagine there will be concepts like this. Me and another anon talked about how MC could drop gear that gives you Frost Resist, because of heated cloaks or whatever. And you utilize that type of gear for future [Frost damage raids].
>slam still has a 15 second CDmakes the improved slam shit in arms pretty dogshit then right?
>>5810981724, one for each nightmare dragon.2 in EK, Duskwood and Hinterlands. 2 in Kalimdor, Feralas and Ashenvale.
>>581097426I think the one near Badlands is Uldaman
>>581098258tewi will make a guild for the next fresh after forever
I just got my beta email. I'm ready for Thursday.
post leveling music>tfw shockadin swining on no shoes gnolls https://youtu.be/J62xm_d6PeM?list=RDJ62xm_d6PeM
Aussieseat your slop and get a key
>>581093784>So if you wanted challenging pve, this ain't itI want to have fun
>>581098378*coughs up blood* tewi..
>>581098282They are sexy, yes.
>>581097884You're right about orcs, I didn't take restoration into account. I still think orc is the best race for enhance and the second best for elemental. If you're taking pvp into account orcs are just the best for every spec, no contest.>Shamanistic focusI don't know how to read, read it as shamanistic rage, the mana regen talent from tbc
>>581098282Please don’t ask where my pictures come from. People just draw em n shit.
>>581098261This but on a Dwarf
>>581098001DEATHCHARGER'S REINS, DEATHCHARGER'S REINS, DEATHCHARGER'S REINS
>>581094134>this dumb fanfic abomination should fagliance only! No, they shouldn’t exist at all.
>>581098191She needs a micro bikini
>>581098327also>pre nerf gruul>pre nerf mag>pre nerf ssc/tksaying TBC difficulty is a large pendulum compared to just classic TBC metric
WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO PLAY/MAIN? TAKE THE SURVEYhttps://take.supersurvey.com/QA1NNG7Q5
>>581094150>multiples of each otherIf you have 40 people, you can split it for the lower sizes
>>581098246If you pick priest, you will have to heal at least sometimes.Healing is not very evil
>>581098028>>581098141This could be a unique way they improve on classes and professions. Imagine adding class quests to mages, shamans, druids, priests, etc. that allow them to unlock spells specifically for dealing with horse magical environments. Same with professions. Like if there was a raid in an extremely cold zone you could have blacksmiths go all the way to the bottom of Blackrock Depths to use that hot magical anvil for good anti frost resistance
>>581098502
What the fuck happened to rock? every old wow video has it
my personal never-happening wish is that they add the tiger cave vendor
>>581098246warlock are more evil, they knowingly do their deeds for personal gainspriest is more cosmic horror, they can start out relatively neutral and become a pawn
>>581098590give her a bulge
>>581098282Skyborne being druids are about the only lore thing that is confusing to me. They were highborne so shunned druidic teaching of Cenarius and Malfurion. After Prince Tortheldrin starting doing demon stuff again, and they got up to Zephras, were they like, "maybe we should give it a shot"?
>>581097859>3 raid sizesAre they retarded? Never mind 40man raids suck dick, multiple raid sizes was a big issue in early tbc
>>581098557SOVL potential: Promising keep cooking
>>581098270Completely carried by soul link, and faster pet summons.All the other talents are ASSS and you have to take some of them to get to SL
Am I the only person on earth going warrior
>>581098532fuck you, that scared the hell out of me
>>581098346one point has to be worth it
>>581098557>horse magical environments.i know you meant harsh but that's funny
>>581098738no the parsetrannies will join you brother, they cant imagine playing anything that isnt brown dps
>>581098593Rock hasn't been released in almost 20 years. I, too, was leveling in tbc anni with Avenged Sevenfold in the background.
>>581098346idk but im gonna be slamming fem blooelves every chance I get
>>581098389https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuHS9NI_xwY
>>581098532Bump, take the survey
>>581098593>what happened to rock nigrs, low test, immigration, globohomo law, no one wants to rebel
>>581098191>lacks a blue cockdisgusting
>>581098532forsaken fire mage
>>581098738im going warrior because i think they're neat
>>581098738warrior sucks so hard in pvp without gear.
>>581098590Made for anal
I have absolutely no idea what to roll. I like outlaw rogue and bdk in retail. Kind of tempted to go orc shaman for max sovl
>>581098638
>>581097628AoEing crazy pulls has been nerfed to the ground, so farming SM is dead but DM east should be fine
>>581098532lots of shamansshaman fags are you playing dps or heals tanking is a meme
>>581098738Lmao no. You might be the only one willing to tank a dungeon though
>>581098664Maybe there used to be regular Night Elves Druid who lived around Shen'Dralar and they were initially friendly with them and when they decided to flee some of them came along. That'd be one way of explaining it. Can Aviana make it into Skywall?
>>581098532Human warlock. Same as what I started with.
>>581098056I'm going to vomit
>>581098593It still sells the most tickets, it’s just not promoted at all in media.
>>581098593Nirvana ushered in alternative rock which was the last time the genre was legitimately popular across the broader culture, 2000's buttrock was all basically temu Nirvana/AiC/Pearl Jam/Soundgarden copycats which is why they had zero cultural staying power, and they sucked so hard that rock became cringe which ushered in rap/hiphop as the dominant cultural genre which is only now starting to wane.
>>581098191give her bigger tits and thanks
>wowfg ai slop waifu is flatGRIM, fem nelf DH wifey won
>>581093784I don't want to have to read a thesis before fighting a boss, I should be able to intuit it within a few pulls and be able to clear by doing my job.I don't want to pull 300 times waiting for boss attack patterns to line up correct or waiting for a single retard to learn how to avoid exploding everyone for a trillion damage.
what's the best healer that is also a good party support, resto shaman?
>>581098590Where is she hiding her penis?
DO THIS before starting WoW: ForeverMETA SPECS for WoW ForeverTOP Gold Farms you MUST DO in ForeverFASTEST XP/Hr in WoW ForeverWoW Forever PvP TIER LISTBEST WoW Forever ProfessionsWhat race should YOU pick in WoW: Forever?What class should YOU pick in WoW: Forever?INSANE DPS! Most BROKEN WoW Forever Builds
>>581098901based, dont cave to the faggots
>>581098935i will heal and get 100 damage parses by upkeeping flame shock and searing totem
>>581098593rock is basically dead as a sound how do you not know this
>>581098901I bet you are stroking while everyone requests...
>>581098935Probably enhancement but might dabble in elemental later.
>>581098921Are paladins good for that? What do people play to do this?
>>581098738>Am I the only person on earth going warrioreveryone who played classic was basically forced to roll a warrior if they wanted to speedrun raids because the class was so overpowered. people want something different this time, which is why we're going paladin
>>581098935Enh dorf shaman reporting
>>581099002she doesnt know how to grow big tits
Should I play Alliance or Horde?
>>581098991Foo Fighters were good
why is this guy spamming ai porn? is he a r*tail refugee?
>>581098602Add in the Ravasaur trainers in ungoro too.It was actually crazy how fucking long those guys went unfinished
>>581098935It’s a lot of people thinking it’s going to be OP. It won’t. They’ll nerf it. They always doo. But I’m enhancement shaman ride or die nigga. They can nerf it all they want I’ll still play it.
World of Warcraft: Forever is going to basically be a Season of Discovery-esque flash-in-the-pan sensation that most people don't bother to try and it'll die out in like two months.
>>581099109You are a man of the highest culture sir.
>>581099109very cute skelfmanemoar
>>581099043I will just make a rogue and take my sweet time with everything, even if it takes months to reach max level
>>581098738Haven't played one in ages so I'm going for oneBut if my bro goes paladin I might go feral druid or warlock to not share gear.
>>581098935Enhancement that will jump on tanking the moment I get confirmed viableWe're like 90% there already
>>581099109Anal
>>581097859>need a dozen 0.1% ultra rare drops for your bis setSo this is how they do horizontal progression? lmao
>>581097156rookie mistake from the fat retard, you are supposed to hype it first, then once the hype dies down after 2-3 months you drop your complain video
>>581099118Once you figure it out make sure you respond to the survey >>581098532
man kungen is so fucking old.
>>581098279Reaching dun morogh at lvl 8 is great because you need to kill tons of lvl 7 boars and even some lvl 5/6 bears and wendingo. And, you always get to lvl 9 by the time you reach trolls/gnomes who are lvl 9. So the cool thing here is, we CANT do stormpikes delivery because it’s a lvl 9 quest. Except for the fact that we can accept it after Westfall at lvl 15, as we’re returning to loch modan there anyways. AND that’s when we also do rat catching, we will get full xp for both these quests still so it’s literally zero loss to do it this way instead.
>>581098976The first thing you say is the most possible. As far as I know, wild gods and elementals are not really friendly. Inexplicably, friendly moonkin on Zephras that could speak and teach druidism? Bit of a stretch.
>>581099109wait till I get her pregnant
>>581099201>two months.More time than your tranny COA pserver, pranny
>>581099109more like you don't know how to prompt it to avoid censorship
>>581099276Anon the average wow player age is now 35..>>581099059calm down kike
>>581099075yup, paladins and casters farmed DM eastThing is we don't know if there are going to be better methods of farming gold, game isn't out yet so don't overthink it
>>581099201And why should I care about this?
If Blizzard doesn't restore AV to its former glory then they are fucking cowards
>>581097156I don't think anyone has ever misread a room harder than him with his first video. He genuinely thought the entire world would HATE the cinematic because the dwarf looked 1% less pissed.
>>581099181I'm being paid by blizzard to fix the public image of Skelves
>>581099268*need a dozen 0.1% ultra rare drops to go from a 97 parse to a 100* parsethis is good for raidrats, they love shit like this
>>581098935I'm tanking
>balance druid in sod was kino (I quit before owl form) >still have to be in gay owl formI'll simply play something else I guess
If you're in Europe please go either -PvP, Horde -RP, Hordeso we can all do Onyxia together without having to pug!!!
heres my resto build early thoughts?
>>581099276every time I tune into a kungen stream, he's watching some video from 2006 and talking about how hardcore vanilla WoW was because you had to use a stopwatch to time boss spells.
>>581099394He's right though. Rock was officially laid to rest circa 2015.Name of current "rock" bands?
>>581099201Your troon servers aren’t coming back. Get cease and desisted, queer : ^)
>>581099429What's it going to be like at launch? Isnt it the traditional one with commandeds?
>>58109946830/0/21 is probably the stronger pvp balance build anyway man
>>581098731the only points I would say are wasted to get to SL are in improved voidwalker
>>581099516he's been talking about forever for hours though, he was just showing people how it was back then
>>581099516this game is nearly 22 years old respect the elders
Bear Tauren is quite obviously the height of tanking
>>581099201>most people don't bother to trySod p1 was popping off big time lilbro. Fuck off with your troon clouded memory
>>581099268>>581099458Faggots will praise this shit but at the same time screech at Legion for needing Titanforging rolls to get true bis.
>>581099401Ahahahaha gold farming isn’t nearly enough to compete with timmies credit card he will literally bring in his oil baron toons to buy the legendary like he always does he will spend like $25,000 on it and your shitty gold farm won’t be worth more than $1200. Just give the fuck up, you can’t beat Tommy. He works in the maternity ward and delivers the men into the mines to build his yachts and the women go straight onto his dick.
>>581099445Make her tits bigger you woke liberal
Is there any reason they wouldn't want shaman to tank?Surely having more available tanks in the pool is just a pure benefit to the game.
>>581098541>Pull 6 tanks out of your ass
>>581099445>I'm being paid by blizzardSure. What your opinion on Laerin Lothar?
>>581099556we will still have more players than your dead p2w servers
>>581099201Four (You)s, not bad. Here's a fifth.
>>581099468They might introduce the same thing they have from retail where you just have a transparent form instead as a cosmetic.
>>581099647legion was best retail expansion, wotlk second best
ngl kungen is such a pathetic nostalgia boomer that its kinda respectable
>>581099667hell yeah flipped elf roirraw let's go
>>581098532wtf, where are my undead mage sissies?
>>581099591New demon tree is a lot better. I was complaining about the vanilla demon tree
>tfw wisp from the trailer is the dead female druid from vanilla cinematic
>>581099704I still don't get what the fuck they were thinking
invite to alex layer
Do we know how the phases will look? Like in classic phase 1 mc phase 2 bwl and stuff? When do we get ranked pvp?
>>581099667what about rogue tanks? it sucks that rogues are forced into dps and basically end up feeling like worse warriors
>goon wall playing >drakedog FULL VOLUME >oil READY forever winning
>>581099841Nice marmot
>>581099667The only people who would hate it is #nochanges fags crying about a version of the game specifically meant to have changes.
>>581099360Doesnt make any sense
>>581099510healing focus is too important for dungeon (even raid) healing and if this is raid leveling you don't need imp healing wave totemic focus is more important than restorative totemspurification is only good early on because the healing increase is only base healing, though this might be changed with foreverdon't need shamanistic focus but it's w/e
>>581099803LEGOLAS NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581099752i blame him for making me want to be a well endowed tauren with that big black temple shield since i was a kid, but i've literally never heard him speak and i think it would be offputting to watch him stream so i don't do it.
Will any of you come back to retail if you get bored of Forever?
will we get asmon and mcconnell kino?
>>581099752>tune in to his stream>the first thing I hear him say is how he banged dudesuh
>>581099803Really? Holy shit no, please don't let it be true, it's upsetting to think about
>>581099717Can’t play without a server xd
>>581099964Yes of course, everyone here has been waiting for years
>>581099647the main issue with titanforging was the unreliability and perceieved unfairness of how you got titanforged drops - that is, you had to grind world quests every day and pray. if a boss has a 0.1% drop rate item, every other player who gets that item beat the boss and had the same chance to get it as you do, they didn't get a drop from Blackrock Depths titanforge into an AQ40 item. does this make sense?
>>581099043yeah unfortunately the content "ecosystem" always results in the "DO THIS NOW!!!!!!!11!1!" videos flooding feeds after every update. doesnt matter what game.
>>581099667Even if not raids, shamans being able to tank 5-mans, even level 60 ones, would be awesome. Would be open to something that lets survival hunters or rogues to do it too.
>>581099908meant raid healing
Kino Payo streams coming once Forever drops. PPC!
>>581099881Mommy..
>>581099950To Midnight? Fuck no. Maybe if TLT actually looks interesting (it won't).
>>581099339>>581099556>>581099638>troon troon troonWoW:Forever is going to be the trooniest server there ever was and sky elves were obviously marketed directly at them. You're not the target audience anymore unc.
>>581100024I could go on a huge rant about Legion. It was endless RNG. Like there was a pasta for how bad the RNG was
>>581100010>asmon starts on pvp server (again) gets assrape by that one undead priest (again)>quits
Might this be the best warlock raid build?
>>581099950
>>581099950For TLT probably. Season 3 looks like dogshit so unless Ion gets some fucking sense and removes half those dogshit dungeons from the pool I shant be giving a flying fuck.
>>581099950my toaster literally can't play retail, and i'm way too far behind in the story which i universally hear is ass even from retail players.
So why are blue space goats from a different dimension good but blue sky elves bad?
>>581099667It’s not hard to find tanks it’s actually healers. Because healing is so fucking hard dude trust me that’s the hardest role. Tanks just need good gear, healers literally need to be watching their screen the entire time and if they fuck up it’s over. This isn’t gonna be classic dungeons where it’s simple you’ll be experiencing huge damage numbers. Plus healing is also kinda boring so nobody wants to heal. Like it’s not like VERY boring like I’ll heal and enjoy it but it’s just not the same as the other two roles where you’re hitting shit it feels more video gamey.
>>581099704Just needs a makeover
>>581099740I hope so. I fully expected skyborne moonkin to be cooler looking and it's the SAME moonkin. Very surprising to me.
>>581099950if they kick out Ion yes.
>>581100110this was because Legion was a pet project by devs from diablo 3 who wanted to try and recreate the infinity chase system for rng loot
>>581099908okay and how do you suggest you go into those talents, just ignore ghost wolf and go deep resto? i need my wolfyboi
>>581100074>wow forever is going to be a troon server ? what does anon mean by this
>>581099950Not a chance.
>>581099704non canon
>>581100121no?
Alexensual runs this general.
>>581098984Have fun dealing with all the undead ret pallies
>>581099181Just a late stage 4channerRemember kiddos!Mental illness (loon)>pron addict (gooner)>transition (troon)>need to reproduce (nonce).
>>581100167I force my duo to play this
>>581100209do you want 5 man or raid
why are the woke blizzard devs forcing ELVES into this fantasy game
>>581100118HEEEELLLLOOOOOOOOOO EVERRYYYBOOOODYYYYYYYY
>>581099950retail is only good for a month the last month of a 6 month season
>>581100167>those little hrt budsnot beating the allegations
>>581100118Some youtube short popped up on my screen where he hated undead pallies. Why even? Did he think pallies should always be alliance only?
>>581098532well obviously tauren hunter, avoiding as many quests as possible just grinding mobs until 60 selling muh drops in the AH, Jobs Skinning and either Leatherworking or Herbalism not sure yet, mostly just gonna kill as many beast as possible and centaurs and harpies for good drops and cloth
>>581100281Same, we will both be the sex elves
>>581099510I'm thinking this one. If there are no threat issues you could take 2 from natural grace and put it into improved ghost wolf.https://talentsforever.com/shaman/60/0000000000000000-005000000000000000-5533503015513151
>>581100167kek
>>581100167looking great sis, keep it up, and never forget a mouth is a mouth
>>581100145Draenei was never a hit actually because it was never a BIS racial for any class. Shamans could only be draenei. If you picked that race you’d basically just not feel anything about it. The racial actually needs to be bis lol it’s actually as shrimple as that. Nelf had the same problem and it’s why nobody really liked nelf either.
>>581100350sounds extremely comfy anon. good luck.
I want to take every single talent in the Frost tree except the Ward one, it just all looks fucking good.
>forever has been announced just a day ago >everyone is maldingliteral infinite source of free entertained, maybe you should have listened to your parents and not do drugs retard
>>581100225Trooniest, Rajesh. Not "a" troon server, THE troon server.
Aaaaaa I can't decide if I want to play:>affliction warlock>arms warrior>MM hunter>enh shaman>fire/frost mage
>>581100381no thundering? i assume that crit applies to healing but it makes sense that it wouldnt
>>581100310kino>>581100327dunno I will watch him when he actually plays video games again
>>581093784>TBC levelOkay which raid? Karazhan and SWP are night and day. Clear rates for Kara are like 90%, SWP are like 30-40% at best.
>>581100502They released Vanilla DK's talents?
>>581098201>SAAAR IT IS YOU DOING THE BROWN NOT Ilmfao this is all they have left, holy fucking shit its over for fags
>>581093784Does anyone want to wipe over and over trying to memorize cardinal directions and perfectly coordinate movement around them to beat a boss?
>>581100561Orc male affliction warlock.
>>581100381nah this is betterhttps://talentsforever.com/shaman/60/0000000000000000-055002000000000000-5530503315013131if you are getting aggro either kite or find a tank that isn't shit
>>581100074> You're not the target audience anymore unc.I think all the changes are great and I understand they need to make a profit, hence the sex elves (which I think are good, and sexy). They couldn’t make the game more for me if they tried.
>>581100524well, what does anon mean by this?
>>581100327Probably something about undead paladins being woke
>>581100449the only people i ever knew who played draenei in ancient days were unironic female human beings irl. the lust for that ass and trooncentric obsession came later from pserver freaks (slav). strange race all things considered
>>581100472No. It's just going to be the biggest dick to gank people by running up to kite with 30% plainsrunning from the start.
wtf is this doingit's been like 20 minutes already, how much does it take to install a shitty launcher?
>>581099950i'm never playing that maze+ lobby simulator again. It's not even an MMO anymore, its a shitty seasonal reset maze+ game with a city lobby.
When can we preinstall forever?
>>581100652Different anon, but it could be both. It wouldn't be a bad idea to have more difficult raids than others. Or specialty items from other raids required. Almost acting as an attunement.
>>581099201as much as I want to get excited, I can't say I disagree. I seriously don't understand what's categorically different about forever. They still haven't addressed a single one of vanilla's crippling longevity problems.
>>581099810>>581100232Brother, that character was introduced in 2024. It's not a misguided relic of the past, it's what you are getting NOW.
I saw that they have dual specialization. Which two builds should I go for as a solo Druid who sucks at the game?
>>581100243I highly doubt going deep in affliction is better than this. Though deep in destruction might be better.
>>581100502for pvp? this is what I came up with.
SEA gold sellers are going to form summon cartels, just like they did during SOD.
>>581100826To understand what's different first you need to die and come back as a human with a frontal lobe, better luck next time though
>>581100561Pro tip is that you can’t make multiple toons. You can’t reroll. It’s actually like this in fresh mmo release, if you reroll your character progression is over. You’re stuck with whatever class you first picked. Another pro tip is that modern developers have huge anxiety problems and will absolutely be turning class balance upside down repeatedly, so it doesn’t matter much. It’s actually really annoying when they make patches like I end up reading it and feeling like Im wasting my life on this stupid fucking shit. I’ll probably just not even play this game modern Blizz is actually the stupidest fucking retarded little bitch.
>>581099268what did you think "forever" meant
which healer should I play as a WoW newfag for learning?
>>581100863holy shit lmao
>>581100845Just go feral. It's easy to dps and tank as feral.
>>581100885>no argumentconceding already?
>>581100845start balance and respec feral around 30
>>581100679I am thinking heavily towards that, I just don't know if I want to do all the fucking management that comes with warlock. Already played on on SOD and anni.
>>581100986>doesn't even understand the post >automates to: already conceding? Wow.
>>581099693everyone is going paladin though
here's your healer for the night
>>581100863my favorite part of people posting builds is the vague critical replies that never point out what's wrong with them or what alternative is better because that would mean someone could laugh at them
>>581100940Paladin. Simple healing and mana efficient.
>>581100912this is actually why I quit SoD warlock, they had no idea what they were fucking doing with it.I know it's "forever" but i've always been a 1 character kind of guy.
>>581099201Truth nuke
>>581096924Now if only anyone explained to me how to pull metadata from this and steal the prompts so I can satisfy my own massively degenerate fantasies of cuddling and mushroom-picking
should I level undead pally or nelf druid first on the beta
>>581101089Coin pouch kisses
>>581101089I will protect her boypussy
>>581100863>>581100863I'll probably compromise and use that spec for pvp, looks pretty good too. But I love playing with the 15% freeze on chill and increased cone damage for frostbolt + cone combos.
>>581094918>already more dungeons at launch than troondle managed in 8 yearsPserf keks, your response?
>>581101089thats not a healer thats my pet
>Balance druid is the worst spec in the game by far yet againYou can't make this shit up lmaoooooo
>>581101089before i form my opinion, is she a druid or a shaman
>>581101089She looks weak and stupid. I'd rather find a huge brawling tauren shaman.
>>581100826It’s just a more casual friendly classic. Nothing will feel very serious or hardcore except raid logging. You’ll be playing mostly with mentally challenged retail players who are like the shittiest possible players. It’s another “group based rpg” game where they can’t make interesting group content because thats not even a fucking possibility. But retail players seem to enjoy spending money on that shit and will also pay for the new cash shop
>>581101089does..he need a camp? I won't mind sharing
>>581100920> no one would ever thinking of fucking you in real life trannySorry I don’t play on private servers lol
>>581100863the frost spells are better than arcane shit. you're missing good shit
>>581100845Feral for leveling and tanking dungeonsResto second or a balance/resto hybrid for healing and or pvp
>>581100940priest because it's the most well-rounded
>>581101228They can root 2 targets now, and indoors, that's pretty cool.
>>581097859Kino. Honestly the first thing that really gives me hope for this game lasting longer than 3 months.
>>581101080>She thinks anypony is going to bother maintaining tank gear for 40man raiding>In the office chance they get asked to tank a 10 or 20 man>Instead of just telling the lowest parsing members to "go pug it" Jegijjugy powiggy.Can't wait for 2 months in for everyone to realize lmaokl
>>581101228source?
class/spec for this feel?
>>581101169both are pretty homosexual choices
>>581101228>I am a tourist that didn't bother reading spells items and talents wowg does not bring their best
>>581101368BM Hunter
>>581099950I can't see that happening honestly
>>581101319>They can root 2 targets now3 targets
>tfw finish the best 1-30 leveling experince in the game (elwynn forest, westfall, redridge, duskwood)>walk into STV>see lil gnome priest gettin ganked>not today.jpg>HoJ, SoC, Holy Strike, Judgement>undead (faggot) rogue dies>wow thank you mr. paladin>heh...no problem lil lady im just doing my job>light be with you, and kings honor firend. Go forth and purge the lands of the wickedall in a days workhttps://youtu.be/YL_APKnLtJo?list=RDCxlRJsQ7p2k
>>581101281You pretty much need imp counterspell for pvp, and you want arcane hit for landing poly and counterspell.the only useful thing missing from frost is frostbite but you can make do without it and it's an unreliable rng effect anyway.
>>581101319Actually they can root 3
>>581101332They practically winked at the camera about playable ogres in Forever. It'll happen, no worries.
>>581101228nah that's ele they have no mana and their 31 point is trash and boring
>>581101072get better bait tardo
>>581100940paladin unironically. druid is fine but there's some pressure without on-demand big fast casts, priest is kind of tricky to learn because your target will dip low while you wind up a massive heal causing anxiety, shaman is also has little quirks and limitations. paladin's just folfolfolfolfolfolfolfol and if your tank gets damaged more than you can heal you've been casting nonstop so you can blame him or the game. paladin will also be catered to by devs since they all play paladin and paladins are obnoxious vocal cunts about their endless problems
>>581101228This but unironically
>>581101350No see anon, people in casual guids will just do that because....They just will okay?!I'm not going to be spamming "LF3M niggersuckers raid 17/20 2 tank 1 heal (no paladin, no druid) for 5h".
>>581101332Not this old canard again
>>581094261I dont mind it. I like dungeon spamming though and I'll still do it for gear.
>>581101089My toilet
>>581101458Dammit, stop making me want to play another human paladin, I've done that a thousand times, I want to play a forsaken for once.
where the fuck is my melee priest spec
>every PvP sweat going Alliance for the racials>Horse's BG queue time is suddenly instant while Alliance is 45+ minThank you Blizzard for making us the underdog faction again, I'll gladly take a shit racial if I can get 3 times the honor
>>581101450>>581101475Even better! If they add something where I don't have to be a moonkin, I'd absolutely try balance druid.
>>581101159All the prompt data is in the image, youd need to be able to gen locally or use something like novelai
>>581101458>going to STV and not Riverlandsnigger what are you doing?
>>581101608It's called Paladin
>>581101608Paladin.
How do we feel about having Pre-Raid bis gear dropping at level 25?
>>581098028>Also isn't there room for different raids to require horizontal progression with resistances? Like imagine a raid deeper than molten core that requires incredibly high fire resistance. Or an emerald dream raid that requires high nature resistance. You wouldn't need to make "number go up" on the gear but instead specifically find gear for that environment to raid in.That's just vertical progression on the tank stat, instead of the gank stat.Although, that's probably what they'll do. The players don't actually want true horizontal, and neither does renowned hamster-wheel factory Blizzard know how to develop horizontal games.The only option is to go with vertical-with-enormous-diminishing-returns-curve (the 0.01% items).
>>581101332It was actually an illuminati style propaganda attempt to advertise China to western audiences. They need a plausible excuse to show us Chinese photography, otherwise they’re just screaming China repeatedly and people will reply “fuck off retard”. Why is that worth doing? Because our world is ruled actually by lucifer, who wrote the book on lucifer himself to confuse you. And lucifer has an agenda which is best done silently through brainwashing. So as to not disturb the population of mindless sheeple too severely as it’s literally plagued with death, disease and destruction already.
>>581100826>I seriously don't understand what's categorically different about forever.Here's the main bullet points.>sky elvesNublizzism obviously designed to resell blood elves since they have the metrics to know its popularity.>+25% more quests and 3 new zonesTBC added about 45% more quests so it's less than the scale of an expansion.>More dungeonsNo idea if these will be good or just hallways but I've seen concerns to the effect of "why so many new dungeons overlapping old dungeons," I don't have much of an opinion. Options are good I guess? Options usually just amount to "everyone picks the better one" in a game like this.>More raidsWe've seen the boss lineup for Hyjal and Barrow Dens and they're all literally whos, the content seems lore-bare. >More class/race combosRetailism being touted as a good thing.>Quest markers, graphics improvements, transmog, lower level mounts, legendaries from quests everyone can doMore retailisms that diluted what made classic fun and good in the first place. If you really fire up the neurons and look at what they're actually saying and delivering, it's pretty unremarkable. The excitement I think is mostly just a combination of Blizzard marketing through streamers (which does affect even this place significantly) and curiosity by people who keep forgetting Blizzard's track record.
>>581101668oh my god...it's over....
>>581101668do we know if/how much they've changed spell coefficients?
>>581101668>helps get you to 60 fasterI'm not complaining
>>581101668it's only for caster weapons so upgrades are not useless compared to auto attack classes
>>581101637holy fuck my dickthis is the best one yet
>>581101635You don't have to be a moonkin.You are arguably better off going 30/0/21 resto for natures swiftness anyway. You play kite dot and hot
>>581101113>>581101297>>581101495I'll give paladin a go first, ty
>>581101590ez, just replace STV with hillsbrad, and gnome with troll.
>>581101668feels weird because casters absolutely do not need help leveling
>>581101637Local gen is a couple of months away, need to onboard and start getting paid the new salary. NovelAI is surely SFW-only, right?
>>581101332Asian gamer:>you sell? I buyWestern ogre shill:>noooooo I’m poor you can’t heckin sell things!!! Everything should be free!!!That’s why the chinks get what they want and you don’t get your fucking ogres.
>>581101668I think they'll tweak the numbers before launch.
>>581101458wow, you must be crazy flexible to suck your own dick this hard
>>581101668i'm guessing the game is being tuned to accommodate it and pre-raid bis will be much better? there's nothing wrong with casters getting to feel a little bit better about their upgrades like all melee do.
>>581101458KINO PEAK HUMANITY NOTHING EVER WILL EVEN COME CLOSE TO CHRIST CRUSADES HITLER CAESAR Demon beasts your karmic pull is waning
>>581101668They explained the reasoning behind it, they want casters to care about weapons other than wands.
>>581101775Interdasting... And horde skyborne have a little 10% speed boost too.
>>581101804lmaooooo nigger>NovelAI is surely SFW-only, right?
>>581101668What makes you think MC gear will have the exact same stats they did in vanilla?
Any healslut here? What will you roll?
>>581101668It’s not classic dude this is an entirely new game. Its a casual friendly game where you won’t have to worry about long graveyard runs or doing the wrong thing at the wrong place because everything you do in modern blizzard entertainment products is correct because the customer is never wrong as long as they’re paying for your car
>>581101502Im going to play WoWF :) already preboughted the the sex skelves and beta.
>>581101874ruined
>>581101927It's likely not and MC won't even launch for a bit anyways
>>581101940OUT. NOW.
>>581095924>not even the same girl
>>581101668>the only way to fix naxx stat creep is to have naxx level prebis gearbravo blizzard
>>581101940There are no goats so femhumie priest
>>581101925Oh shit. Well then, time to coom,
>>581101804>NovelAI is surely SFW-only, right?Lol https://files.catbox.moe/zvo7sf.png
>>581101997See you there anon!
What will be 10 men raid meta, obviously it will have a prot paladin, enh shammy, warlock, disc priest, what else?
arms will be a raid spec too right? ret isn't the only pvp spec getting special treatment, right?
>>581101458early alliance leveling kind of sucks ass thoughbeit because none of the zones can sustain you for a long time, lots of traveling between Elwynn, Westfall, Dun Morough, Loch, and Darkshore
>>581102087you'd have at least one of everyone.
>>581102082give her a big cock
>>58110208710 paladins
>>581102143i really wanted to play arms but it doesn't look good unfortunately.
>>581102087I think the meta will just be trying to bring 10 people who all need different types of gear. Holy pally will probably be the most wanted healer so they have something to dump the spellpower plate gear on.
>>581101836>>581101851>>581101590chads>>581101640ill be doing both, and homotrannys will never EVER recover....forever.
>>581102073do you need a duo?
>>581101861Lol that’s literally the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard they’re making a game for drooling fucktards with ADHD who believe a tooltip makes it more fun they’re actually pandering to the mentally challenged it’s actually predatory like im expecting a lawsuit for praying on weak minded fools wallets with shit like this. Its barely even a game anymore it’s just another raidlogging expansion where you play with some faggots who talk and you can’t mute it because if they say your name and you don’t reply then it’s like a huge deal dude and everyone’s like “dude hop in discord dude so you’ll know soak target”
>>581099693good thing we have dual spec
>>581102143>improved slamyeah they fixed slam for u sissies>arms doesnt get deathwishbottom tier dpst.furyGOD
>>581100845Wait they announced dual spec somewhere?I was actually on the fence if they didn't have it.
>>581101480>31 point is trash and boringmany such cases
>>581102101You seem awfully mad
>>581102087its a funserver so just bring whoever, try limit gear overlap and thats it
>>581101637are you taken... >////<?
>>581102082Saving all these, flat and delicious>>581102213Shut the fuck up faggot
>>581101719yeah, literally not one of these is a categorical difference except I guess transmog which will help the game's longevity to be fair. This >>581097859 unironically gives me hope but it depends how brave they are about the droprates. If it's 1% or higher this game has no chance.
>>581102295>She thinks dual specs makes more of the cuck roles (tank, dps)Gylag gylag xD
>>581102312improved slam is pretty wack when slam still has a 15 second CD. they're 100% fixing the heroic strike bug though so get fukt fag
>>581102289Touch grass
>>581102082>no cockone job
>>581102275
>>581100847just wait for the unemployed to vibe code a simulator and youll have your answer
Skelf couple lf bull (rp server)
Ele shaman got so fucked, that shit has to be revamped. How the fuck do they want ele shamans to recover mana?
>>581102440Dude id probably break your jaw irl or shoot you if you said that shit.
>>581102380I don't think chase drops are going to help the game much, the weekly raid schedule is a fundamental flaw and chase drops are a poor bandaid for it.
>>581102338>DST level drop in every raidNope, people will optmize everything because they will be tired of running the same raid for the 1000th time. Won't happen at the start but it will eventually.
>>581101925Fuggg
>haha pserver had so many trannies!meanwhile this thread is full of trannies trying to erp
Is this nigger game going to allow me to install it BEFORE the beta officially starts or what?How are we not doing pre-loading in almost the year 2027?
Will we have 40 mans? I always thought 40 retards running around was cool.
>>581102087no such thing as meta on 10mans this is NOT retoilet you monkey.as this guy said >>581102256 thats as meta as it gets>>581102424yeah but we get whirlwind with both weapons which is pretty good t.furyGOD coping
Will Plainstrider stack with Ghostwolf or Travelform?
>>581102318I hope hunter is changed from the demo to the beta because all they got is DOGSHIT
>>581100350ye it will be comfy as fuck, only question is if there are any cool new pets or pet abilites and they hopefully did only nerf the xp from mob kills in dungeons and not the normal world
>>581102471World buff meta was incredibly cringe and gay, so I'm glad we're leaving those behind.
>>581102653We will have 10, 20 and 40 mans.
>>581102617let's say a friend wants to look for a lot of pictures like this...right? what would be the genre? hypothetically asking for a friend
>>581102596You really do need to touch some grass.
>>581102573I'm so glad this garbage is being left to rot in a dying branch of this IP
>>581102653we know at least Onyxia is 40the other 2 raids released as 20 and 10. clearly an experiment to see which works best before making new ones, and redesigning old ones.
>>581102471NO NO NO DELETE THISPALADINBROS!!!! CRUSADE THIS GUY!!!!
>>581102513Lol, naive as fuck.
OP really is that mad about Forever existing, thanks for making the thread still slave.
>>581101940Skyborne Druid and Human Paladin will be my two characters. Gonna level as resto and holy.
>>581102671Hunter is going to be popular no matter what just like warriors so they did the minimum effort possible
>>581101881Something like this. I didn't think super hard about every point. This is sort of a general pvp build, you could make it better for 1v1s if you wanted to.You kite and outlast with your hots n dots and cheap shapeshifting
>>581102702Anon, I just generated it based on what anons in the reply chain told me
>>581101820lollmao
>>581102574mindfulness is 5 points into restoration tree
>>581102670It stacks with druid form.
ACKTUALLY the 31 point talent NOT being game-breakingly broken IS a good thing and I'm not even joking despite the tone of this post.I've been building much more interesting builds by dipping deeper into other trees instead of taking the 31st talent a bunch of times now, but the 31st talent is still good enough to take should you not want to experiment. It's all good.
>>581100745linux?
>>581102764nobody gives a fuck about zg parses, who will care about 10man parses? you can fuck off with your ubrs speedrun fag. only 20+ man matters
>>581102686I think nobody in their right mind thought that this was intended or good game design, the "no changes" thing was kinda tarded
>>581102573>>581102739Brother we've had nonstop "ORCED.COM" and sky elf femboys posted in this thread since hour 1.
>>581102882W10
>>581102851I hope they don't get too anal about balance and just let people have fun and dick around with meme specs.
>>581102574Resto tree has bunch of cool shit and they moved up mana totems. Seems to be more of a PvP spec though?
>>581102851I don't want to be pushed into the 30/21 ele build where you stormstrike for the nature damage amp that sounds fucking miserable
will you still play pvp server even knowing there will be devilsaur mafias run by thirdies?
>>581102470>>581102213https://files.catbox.moe/eqoyrs.png
>>581102603I disagree with both of these points but I'd like to hear you're reasoning
>>581102574You can get a bunch of mana regen from the resto tree. People just hate it because they'd rather be grabbing all the cool shit from the enh tree
>>581098532>https://take.supersurvey.com/QA1NNG7Q5>Skyborn (Horde): 3>Skyborn (Alliance): 0Interesting
>>581102920It’s just one mentally ill private server troon doing it.
>>581100863lol retard
>>581102885Never mentioned parses, and you're wrong :)Naive as fuck also :))
>>581100074you really out yourself by acting like this. Your parents are disappointed in you, massively
>>581102971
>>581100863frostbite and arctic reach shouldn't be skipped
So does all the new content only have new high def models? I
Is it conceivable that in later update as a way to have horizontal progression you do a raid and say unlock 3 to 5 more talent points? I'm a casual so I don't know if this is Retardedly broken or trivially nothing.
>>581103115well what do you give up to get them?
>>581100074Why do you see gorgeous blue elves and associate them with ugly troons? The fuck is wrong with you?
>>581102996Horde skyborn was always going to be more popular because it's the only pretty race on that faction. Playing a shaman with the blood elf model is also going to be a first.
>>581103117Correct.
>>581102779which will be the first what server are you playing on?
>>581103142Horizontal progression is just more raids with same ilvl and more professions. You will get items that do +dmg vs Dragons and shit and use it later in Onyxia who will drop +damage vs Elementals that will be used in blue Molten Core etc.
Any other Orcs here? What will you do to your pet sky boy elves if they disobey you?
>>581102574Get resto talents like this bro:https://talentsforever.com/shaman/60/5500301523123031-000000000000000000-5031500010110000
>>581101089If that were my healer, I would be in bear form and his lips would be on my asshole.
>>581103142Most people don’t raid, it’s pretty hard to find playing with these faggot wow players interesting they’re all shit at the game and boring as fuck to speak with.
>>581103115>>581103165Maybe 3 points from Winter's Chill and 2 from Imp Frostbolt?
>>581103291youre going to make me toggle my dilator chud
I think I might be the only person who is going to miss the improved thorns talent.I loved watched rogues shred their own ass open on my bear form with imp thorns, thorns tier set bonus, essence of the pure flame, that arcane damage return ring even though it was garbage against any other class
>>581102801Thank you buddy, I will try something like this!
>>581103117No. They confirmed some of the new stuff didn't have it's low rez models ready in the blizzcon demo. You couldn't even turn the sky elves into their old blood elf models yet.
>>581103193>>581103281
warriors should get a mirror shield ability that refects spells
>>581103281They get shoved down and forced to take my BGC down their throat the next time we make camp
>>581103398imp frostbolt is giga bis, never remove those. you could swap winters chill but the main vaule to it is to get a bunch of trash debuffs up on your target to prevent dispels.
Wish there was a way to filter all /v/ frogposters
>>581102986I hate that the first row of resto is a dead pick for ele/enham, flip it with the hit talent on the second row and shaman is perfection.
>>581103409Do we not get improved thorns baseline?
>>581103435That's tbc
I'm kinda upset they didn't come up with a new class. What do you guys think? I heard some private servers had some pretty cool looking new classes.
>>581103420thats literally a pserf brown concern troller though, its their new concern troll of the day after making an issue out of rain, low level spell power items and what not
>>581103496this but trannies like you
>>581103503THIS. If they just flipped the hit talent or gave us ANYTHING worth putting 5 points in then it wouldn't feel so shit.
>>581103387Some of my best memories are raiding, but you have to have a good cast of characters. You need an extremely racist Danish person, a mischievous Australian, a drunk american 70yo, etc.
>>581103542next blizzcon they will announce bards
>>581103542Not worth all the trouble considering all the work that goes into updating and balancing the new/changed talents.
people that think Ele sham will be fine with 50% meditation and Mana Tide have never played Ele sham in vanillait's such a mana inefficient spec and it really needs big mana cost reductions like Balance is getting or it's DoA
>>581102471what a fucking cope, you no shoe tranny fags are so delusional. going to be HELLA funny when warrior is backseat DPS and only brought around for shouts and taunts. i hope you like being an off tank when needed lil bro. and yes, me and all my paladin bros (the whole guild) will be fucking your shit up 10 chads deep. whats lil sujdik going to do about it? spam dog porn on /wowfg/? LMFAOhttps://youtu.be/DIxyB_M5OZk
>>581103542Id want DK or tinker, they will sell new classes and races instead of expansions for forever.
>>581103478If I was queuing with some friends or a stack I'd probably prefer full Winter's Chill and just disregard Frostbite and Arctic Reach. But if I was solo and just going for duels and KBs, I would rather have the utility of Frostbite and Arctic Reach.
>>581103519If so then cool. Fuck rogues, get brambled
>>581103214Why can't people play alliance if they want a pretty race? I thought the previous copes were because of better horde racials and elf only paladins.
>>581103542They will eventually for sure. Next year, they'll probably announce Ogres and something for Alliance for free. And then a new class, probably Bard or Tinker. Would definitely guess we will get another ranged weapon user.
no dk no playshrimple as that
Rogue has shit talents. Don't like that Orcs and Trolls are better in PvE than undead either.
>>581103676This. Makes me laugh listening to these clueless nigs. They think a few extra ticks of mana are unironically going to clear up Elements mana guzzling problems and it is fucking hilarious.
>>581103694>an all paladin guild wont have any skytroonsbased???
>>581102979Chase drops are kind of an EverQuestism and they don't really work for a modern MMO, EQ was a different time and vibe because it was comprised of a different type of gamer and it was more of a laidback social environment where you talked to people around the world (internet was more of a novelty then) while waiting hours for a spawn or mana or w/e. WoW from day 1 but especially nowadays is very high attention span, you can't really progress or do anything by waiting and socializing. Low drop rates will just frustrate people and they'll complain and BLizzard will bandaid it with something like the vault and sell it as a "we listened" big feature.WoW's playerbase is very attendance and effort minded. You get gear for attending your weekly chores and you get gear by putting in keystrokes. In an older game, the type of thing classic built off of and what people call sovlfvl (I don't necessarily agree) gearing was more like a combination of luck, commitment, and trading. A lot of your items were either bestowed on you by others, gained by following through a lengthsome series of actions like a quest (quests were a more nebulous term than the vancian "do 8 things, get reward one time" WoWism), or just dropped from a rare spawn or something. In WoW it's more like, you are guaranteed a weekly raid to clear with bosses that have a guaranteed loot table of items for everyone with very specific roles and stat spreads in mind.
>>581103435Spell reflect is probably one of the more frustrating counter abilities. It’s basically not skill, is what im alluding to. It’s pure reaction timing and that’s not skillful. They add this shit aids mechanic into every modern RPG actually which is why I know this. Spell reflect is cool in theory but at the end of the day it’s just not a good mechanic shit feels awful to have your spell reflected or to miss a reflect and to actually be like waiting to press the key gives you a fucking lot of anxiety. Kick isn’t as bad, because you have lots of time to press the button or to juke like that’s decent mmo content.
>>581101089if skyborne looked like this i wouldnt mind them ingame
>>581103676Replace Water Shield in resto tree with Earth Shield and make Water Shield baseline.
>>581103694>that lone GNOMEBVLLbased
>>581103735depends what you are dueling, if you have no dispel protection your slows will get purged immediately by anything with a magic dispel, and that also applies to frostbite. Not having reliable slow uptime is substantially worse than missing out on some range and a random root proc.
>>581103786lol this isn't worth a response just go into simonize's discord and copy the talents you are given
>>581103785Wrathbabbies continue to be subhumans and prove to me Wrath is not a part of classic.
>>581103841>anxietykwab
they need to buff elemental focus
>>581103472hot, please say you'll do the same to tauren men too
>>581103628Lol what, seriously I must’ve spend years in discord listening to these fucking morons talking and it was all completely worthless shit just like this entire board. Totally worthless, nightmarish to remember that type of thing actually occurred to myself
>>581103841I agree. If you wanna spell reflect take engineering and sacrifice a trinket slot
>>581103797>Yfw people think the taunt seal will fix paladin Can't wait for retards to judge on cd, make boss immune to taunt or taunt it again while off tanking.
>>581103694>1 meme guild beat the easiest raid in the game with all paladins so that means they aren't a shitclass I promise!
>>581103947death knights are actually part of the lore unlike skyfaggots
>>581103976Seething poor
>>581103892rsham doesn't need any more it's already the best healer in the gamemake water shield proc off of all spell crits and make lightning alacrity give 50% mana cost reduction
>>581103694all those hands of rags
Need a duo to play with, there can I find one?
we need salaried bakers at this point
>>581103906Yea good point. We'll have to play around with it, hopefully we get dual spec and respecing doesn't go up to 50g
>>581103694> going to be HELLA funny when warrior is backseat DPS and only brought around for shouts and taunts.God i fucking hope so. Nothing would be better for Forever than warrior sucking.
>>581103542yes, bard (females only full support class)
>>581104050Wrath is a mediocre expansion that killed the cozy world, it built the frame work for cataclysm's shitshow.
>>581103676With mindfulness, water shield and mana tide I think it'll be alright.
>>581104172i can agree somewhat but death knights arent a bad addition
>>581104075Are they? They might be, boosted chain heal seems OP, but disc priest has lots of talents from WOTLK and they were Godlike there.
>>581103797is that holly's npc???
I WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING BETA AND I WANT TO PLAY IT *NOW*WHY ARE THE DAYS SUDDENLY 3X AS LONG? DUDE THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT, GO FASTER ALREADY
>>581103753>Why can't people play alliance if they want a pretty race?Because people have these things called "friends" who they play with. These FRIENDS may not play on the Alliance. So if you want to pick a pretty race on the Horde then elves are your only option.
>>581103976mmmmmmmk
>>581104124>vanilla>warrior best melee>tbc>warrior best melee>sod>warrior best meleeyeah surely this time the rage weapon user with multiple spells to press won't be the best
>>581104271disc doesn't have the mana talent they can't do WotLK shit>>581104235lol
>>581103993??? fuck off furry
>>581104261I would want DKs ONLY if there were a complete rework and closer to a class that would exist in vanilla or TBC. I can understand them working, I would like them to be dead orcs reanimated in human bodies desu if they are horde.
>>581104075Rsham is almost bottom with Hpala, Priest and Druid are shitting all over it.
>>581103676not sure why they didn't at least give them tbc clearcasting
>>581104328Warrior sucked most of TBC and there won’t be any world buffs in Forever.
>>581103837Oh it will make people absolutely seethe and cry I'm sure. Guilds will disband over them, friendships will be destroyed.But that's exactly why we need them. People need a reason to keep playing, they need a reason to care. It's very much a you think you do but you don't. The type of fast, consistent progression and spreadsheetism you're talking about is exactly why every classic server dies after a couple months. If you disagree, you need to provide an alternative, or just admit you're a "fresh" cuck.
>>581103542New class Slut. If you die in hardcore instead of moving to another server your character gets force class change to it and drops to level 1
>>581104007You might be a tad anti-social. You never whispered your closest member of your guild during the raid and made fun of another member? Just tiny stuff like that was fun. The drunk old American yelling "I'M STUNNED" during Moroes in 2007 is seared into my brain.
>>581104679>>581104679>>581104679Here's the thread, lazy niggers. I'm at work, you know?
>>581104475Chain Heal is the best heal in the game and Riptide makes it 25% strongerWith 50% meditation and gimped Illumination via Water Shield they won't have the mana issues they normally haveRiptide being instant fixes their problems with movement tooAnd you need a bunch of Shaman for raiding so they're important utility too
>>581104840Yeah 25% boost is crazy, tier 6 set in TBC gives a 5% boost and that's considered to be great.
>>581104049oh no non ononononnonnonoonLIL BRO MAD BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PLAY DRESS UP LMFAO. how are you coping with the fact that ret pally alone has x2 DPS now, and prot is GOD level tank, and holy pally has AoE heals? what if you didint dialte this morning? >sees 3 horde no shoes attempting to rape female gnome priestess in the The Riverglades>5 paladins charge in>all 3 horde no shoe transexual rapist get HoJ>2 based and CHAD codded ret pallys both judment SoC on single orcgger warrior>orcs head explodes>troll rouge tries to sprint but another pally gets SoJ off on him and hes slow>tfw speced PoJ so 20% faster movement speed all the time> SoC procs on 800 white crit and hits xim for another 750 holy cirt>troll rogue now has 2 tranny neo vaginas>other Sky elf shammy is trying to get away aswell>the group shockadin ques up DF and pops new spell power trinket for +777 spell power>one shots the trans shamman>gnome priestess is saved>"wow by the light, i was almost raped by those transexual nigger folx, but thanks to the order of divine CHADS im safe.">"heh no issue lil lady, we just hate to see some tranny freaks think they can get away with being rapist, we know the only reason they went after you is because you look like a child, and everyone knows trannys are pedo freaks and also into dog fucking">she nods>how can i ever repay you>no payment needed, our reward is knowing 3 less trannys are not able to rape children, or so they thought>light be with you, and kings honor>Christ is kingvid relatedhttps://youtu.be/CxlRJsQ7p2k?list=RDCxlRJsQ7p2k
>>581104503https://fresh.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1060?boss=50622don't make me post a cleave fight
>>581102424>they're 100% fixing the heroic strike bug though so get fukt fagFirst off, it was never a bug. Secondly, the feature is getting baked into DWS and you won't even have to queue HS to benefit. Fury is going to be even stronger, the only way warrior isn't top dps is if they pull a SOD P2 and give all the bosses 8k armor.
>>581098410How to get beta access for $7.20 if you don't live in Australia. I don't care about blue elfs or cosmetics so heres how i got 1+ month of beta access despite not living in Aus.****I did this on android.********1. Install the app.**** The MyMacca's APK is `com.mcdonalds.au.gma`. Get it from APKMirror — verify that package name before installing.****2. Sign up.**** Email signup worked without an Australian phone number.****3. Set location.**** Postcode 2000 (Sydney CBD). The app will ask for location services — grant it. I GPS spoofed as well to be safe but didn't confirm it's needed. I use Fake Traveler but dyor.****4. Pick a store.********5. Order $10+ AUD.**** Points accrue at $1 = 100, on the cent. Two Red Bulls at $5.05 works. Stick to something like sealed drinks so nothing gets thrown away.****6. Check in.**** Select that you've arrived. It will say "woah lets wait till you actually get here" bitch i'm on the other side of the world. The points won't hit your account until the payment goes through, which occurs when you say you're there to pick it up. The order charges and ****points post immediately****.****7. Redeem.**** Rewards & Deals scroll to Partner Rewards WoW: Forever Beta Key for 1000 points.****8. Claim on Battle.net.**** Go to [battle.net/code](http://battle.net/code) and enter it.