Previous: >>581093206He Shall Return Edition>What is WoW: Fivever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes September 17th, you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1>What realm are (you) playing in? (poll)https://poal.me/2hc6amhttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
lol wtf are they thinking? did casters really need a massive buff?
first for ret GODS
Everything in the Adventure Tree of the Legacy talents feels fucked up>5% hp and mana gain on killing blowsSo just blast through the world without stopping like retail? Check>faster bandage recovery, enhanced stealth detection, 5 extra talent pointsFeels like a fuck you to people who decide to pick up the game in a year and roll on PvP server being behind everyone else.
>>581104773im going fire mage undead and its gonna be kino
total pserver tranny deathtotal doomtroon death
sex with nora
>>581103694>>581104124>>581104503>s-surely th-this time warrior will be b-b-b-badGet ready for disappointment, holysissies.
WoW Forever Isn't Made For You
was thinking about making a skelf mage but the racials are shit and human mage gets 2% crit bonus...
the erp trannies havent found this thread
So what class should I try in this new wow classic? I only played as mage before
where can I see if I have beta access?I used one of those aussie maccas codes but I can't see anywhere on bnet where the betas are
What am I supposed to do for a month and a half though?
>>581104920Shouldn't you base your character on what aesthetic and lore you like the most? There is no meta yet.
>>581104803>Feels like a fuck you to people who decide to pick up the game in a year and roll on PvP server being behind everyone else.I remember jumping into retail during the Nazjatar patch of BfA having not played since early Legion and turning on warmode, entering Vol'dun and seeing those pvp air drops? I'd get to one and I had like 30k hp or something as a brewmaster and EVERYONE I saw fly over to grab the crate had like 10x my HP and could one shot me. It was actually insane.So this is pretty par for the course with Blizzard, but let's trust them this time!!!
>>581104803Anyone starting in a year on a PvP server was fucked anyway? There's a reason these become 99% one faction
>>581104920if you make impure choices like this the god of luck will curse you with a -10% modifier IRL
tfw you only get a 50 attack power green ring from RFC
>>581104920the crit is only if you wield a sword. you gonna wait till naxx or good luck getting mageblade
Classic doesn't have dual spec right? How unhappy will my life be if I try and play resto shaman and want to go out and solo mobs in the world while gathering for herbalism?
>>5811048035% over 10 seconds is legitimately terrible, what are you talking about retard
>>581105210it will
>those Rogue talentsOnly combat seems somewhat viable, very low effort.
>>581105210Anni had dual spec. C+ im pretty sure has dual spec
But will you play on a PVP server knowing there will be devilsaur mafia type groups run by streamers and thirdies?
>>581104773Some people fail to realize just how insanely bad caster gear was throughout nearly all of vanilla. It's not exciting to get an "upgrade" that gives you a bit extra mana and 0.01% more crit chance. an inherent flaw with the original stats was not making int also increase your power like agi and strength did.
>bitching that rogue, warrior and mage, the only finished classes in vanilla, didn't get that many changes compared to the others
>>581105303you can keep posting it I'll keep laughing good joke
>>581104920start as human and buy race change after skelf gets buffed
>>581105025Play a better game so when Forever comes out you can go back to it when you realize Forever is dogwater.
>>581104989do something completely different. Try hunter or rogue.
>>581105391Mage and Warrior got plenty of changes.
oooo das a stinky doodoo bait
>>581104803>5% hp and mana gain on killing blowsIt's actually only 3%. It's a 5 point talent but goes from 1% > 1.5% > 2% > 2.5% > 3%.
Are they right?
Just two more days until we can all go home... to Asmonlayer...
>>581105172there are a couple swords from ZGand they'll probably add a blacksmithing sword or something from the new raids/updated dungeon loot
Need a healslut for dungeons and PvP. Applications are now open.
>>581105571There's fast travel hubs to every part of the map now, summons won't be necessary.
>>581104773yeah that's kind of a mistake to buff items, if anything they should squish levels
>>581104803to get that 5% you have to spend 45 points so all classes to max
>>581105360there was rarely caster gear that improved damage more than a new rank of the spell would. Most caster gear was focused on INT/SPIRIT/STAM. Only on a few rarer blues would you get spellpower. New weapons and their weapon damage contributed nothing. It wasnt until raids that you would consistently get weapons/rings /neck with spellpower.>t. played a warlock in vanilla
>>581105210Forever already confirmed to have it. You can see it in any demo footage.
>>581105571Yes, I agree. Meeting stones made it so most fuckers stayed exactly where they were and expected others to summon them when they got there.
>>581104803>>581105108>pvp serverserver?
>>581104773>did casters really need a massive buff?Yes, you fucking shit eating, retarded faggot mongoloid.
>>581105705Yeah everybody used the caster gear from sm until they hit maraudon at minimum.Spellpower was insanely rare while leveling
>sees 3 horde no shoes attempting to rape female gnome priestess in the The Riverglades>5 paladins charge in>all 3 horde no shoe transexual rapist get HoJ>2 based and CHAD codded ret pallys both judment SoC on single orcgger warrior>orcs head explodes>troll rouge tries to sprint but another pally gets SoJ off on him and hes slow>tfw speced PoJ so 20% faster movement speed all the time> SoC procs on 800 white crit and hits xim for another 750 holy cirt>troll rogue now has 2 tranny neo vaginas>other Sky elf shammy is trying to get away aswell>the group shockadin ques up DF and pops new spell power trinket for +777 spell power>one shots the trans shamman>gnome priestess is saved>"wow by the light, i was almost raped by those transexual nigger folx, but thanks to the order of divine CHADS im safe.">"heh no issue lil lady, we just hate to see some tranny freaks think they can get away with being rapist, we know the only reason they went after you is because you look like a child, and everyone knows trannys are pedo freaks and also into dog fucking">she nods>how can i ever repay you>no payment needed, our reward is knowing 3 less trannys are not able to rape children, or so they thought>light be with you, and kings honor>Christ is kingvid relatedhttps://youtu.be/CxlRJsQ7p2k?list=RDCxlRJsQ7p2k
>>581104803retail minus... home...
>>581104803>blast through the world without stoppingits only on non-trivial, probably silver/named mobs which make up 1% of kills, it's just a small return after the hardest mobs>pick up the game a year after launch and be behind everyone elseno shit
>>581105656You have zero clue how the legacy tree works. Why would you even post?
I want to heal and dps when nothing is happeningwat do
I'm a porn addicted tranny who needs around 12 pills a day not to kill myself is this the right game for me
>>581105571Yes
>>581105705and that's fine, casters are great at leveling and don't need the helpyou can argue that they need more at max level that's fine but they're already faster than melee while leveling
>>581105938yes
>>581105761There's a PvP (mega)server and I'm not changing my 20+ year vernacular to account for it
>>581105938toggle onto our discord with the girlies and roll skyborne!
>>581105571WTS SCARLET MONSATERY SUMMON - 5GThirdies need to eat too y'know.
>>581105909Play retail I guess. In Classic healers just heal. I wish they made Paladins like they originally planned them.
>>581105532How will warriors ever recover?
>>581105763>links graph that shows they don't
>>581105391and they still got changes lmao. It's from people that have enjoyed playing on vanilla servers exclusively as warrior/rogue/mage
Legacy tree is honestly the only things that makes me consider giving this turdpile a try.
>tristan hasn't made a youtube video in a monthhttps://www.youtube.com/@tristanparedes/videosbros it's happening he's coming back
What's better for bears? The 1% hit from tavren or the 1% haste from basedborn?
>>581106135nice seeing rets enhas and rogues on the charts.. whoops nowhere to be seen>keklandoh got cucked out of top1 warr lol
theres still time for them to remove combat racialshonestly a terrible addition
>>581105909Most healers have a DoT. Use that and downranked damage spells. Wand for priest. Shaman can use searing totem. Paladins can just bonk if they want.
>>581106112Aw fuck...
>>581106175kek this thread really just plays what streamers tell them to
>>581105909shockadin or disc priest
This will get nerfed before the beta ends, right?
>>581106221Depends if warstomp is castable in animal forms this time.NE is probably the best though with Tauren 2nd
>>581105883wrong, victory rush uses the same language so we can assume "non trivial enemy"" mean anything not grey leveled
>>581106079I would easily fix this by adding 1-hour cooldown to warlock summon but unfortunately I don't work at blizzard.
>>581104803oh no you have to actually play a couple hundred hours to catch up to people who played 2k hours the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>581106353Holy fuck finally as screenshot that isn't from a mana user
>>581105909Shadow priest.
>>581106337Streamers gave you classic which has now given you Forever. You owe them.
>>581106221Skyborne might be really good for caster if Boomkin and Ele end up being decent. I'm positive that both specs will be playable but nowhere near what people think about them with the new talents. Ele has huge potential if they get a huge tier set.
>/dance on your mailbox
>>581106353>>581106417For warriors its 40% reduced rage
>>581106395but then how would summon your other 2 party members?
>>581106365I'm sorry i should have specified for pve. So forget about warstomp.NE is crap this is between tavren and sõyborn
>>581106282>Beta 'feedback' will be nothing but them fellating streamers who will turn around and claim nothing is actually wrongoh they've unsolved the game alright just not for the players but for themselves.
>>581106538>sends gold for permission to lick feet clean
>>581106353absolutely, for all kinds of cost reductions
>>581106538inb4 the only tranny get mad that its not doing some kind of dick sucking animation
>>581106583yeah the beta is purely performative unfortunately
Since N-WoW got an updated engine, do you think it will allow the possibility of amazing mods like xiv?
I'm kinda hyped for this bros, we're going home.
>>581106538that looks retarted
>>581104920goblin glider as a racial is pretty convenient for the elves desu
>>581106353Even if it gets nerfed the fact that gnomes still have +5% energy and escape artist is going to make them the bis rogue race
>>581106538Haha cute skelf, she looks like she's having fun!
>>581106579Warstomp is still pretty handy for dungeon tanking (unless bear can't use it)There's no way to judge the rest of it really yet since we dont know how hard getting hit gear is going to be.Tauren seems safest bet atm because hit is too good and more hp ontop of bear is good too
>>581106475>Streamers gave you dogshit which has now given you curated dogshit.
>>581106578they can walk
>>5811062211% dodge and 2% movespeed with 10% crit from ARYAN elf
>>581106727blizzard actually has a semi functional anti-cheat so no
>>581106571>18 rage MSgetting nerfed for sure
>>581106727Narcissus WOW? Can the models be freely posed or something? The character models in WOW and XIV work completely different afaik.
>>581106849Explain the rampant botting then?
What is the proper etiquette for hr/sr runs? Could I as the raid leader make it so I hard reserve one of these chase items but still soft reserve items as well?
>>581106727stroking...>>581106849>blizzard has a semi functional anti cheat so no >millions of bots rampart ruining every version to this day idk about that.......
>>581104920>racials are shitwut>free mana regen>goblin glider in vanilla>1% spell haste at all times
>>581106742kinda irrelevant when mage already has slowfall
>>581106538I'm fine with the twist part, but the other part is so tiktok that I guessed it was from tiktok before someone confirmed. Really couldn't have picked from thousands of dances from songs? I expected some kpop dance honestly.
>>581106781I don't care about anything other than the 1% hit vs 1% haste. It's impossible to say but 1% haste might be really good
>>581105025you can play the Beta angong....
>>581105571It's going to be funny when the backtrack on all this because the modern person is so anti-social and attuned to instant-gratification it's insane. But here's to hoping they don't, and this becomes the new mmorpg for the oldschool chads who know how to shoot the shit, and enjoy a video game for a video game.
>>581106753escape artist only helps vs mages and druids, UD and orcs racials are more widely useful
https://youtu.be/Tw9VLNqkjO0
>>581106990the difference is the racial also pushes you forward a bit and gives you momentum so its more like the goblin gliders. whereas slowfall is static and does actually push you forward.
can I redeem the beta code of australia on the european servers? anybody is know?
>>581105025XCOM 2 LONG WAR BABY!!!!
>>581106740now that when I´m thinking about this, This looks like a dance that a Sims character could perform.So, purposefully retarded.
>>581106727>this could be nu-draenei DAMN
i find it funny that classic, retail, and pserver trannys are all coping right now. The fact that they let trannys tmog in forever and allow normal people to turn off tmog is even funnier, just like in real life they can have a desluion of looking like somthing they are not while normal people view them as they are.
>play in rp server>start a skelf onlyfans guild>skelfs are high class >charge absurd amounts of gold to erp with them>hangout with orcs and taurens for the cuck fetish communityyup, blizzard cooked with this one
so it this guy just on an embarrasment speedrun ?
>>581107070Forever will cure the anti-social aspect of zoomers and gen alpha.
>>581104773dont worry, they are surely going to increase mob stats to compensate for this increase in player power
Fuck Skelves>Orc Warrior>Troll Hunter>Tauren Shaman>Undead Warlock>Human Priest>Dwarf Paladin>Nelf Druid>Gnome Mage
>mfw leaving for basic training in a few weeks and will miss out classic+Will it be too late to catch up?
>>581106954you can make whatever rules you want
>>581106727I've remembered most posters aliases from /xivg/ if they start posting here I will vibe-code a bot that will nuke /xivg/ from orbit into an unusable state. Also nice this game might just easy enough for you Macchi but I look forward to you shitting up this general when you wipe to the first new dungeon boss.
>>581107289it's just the beta bro
>>581105938absolutely, be sure to pick hunter, mage or priest
>>581107289just wait for forever classic
>>581107216>IRL tranny is alliancekek every single time
>>581107269He hasn't been relevant in over a decade, so yeah.
>>581107289there will be billions of players leveling alts
Me playing Shaman
>>581106954you can... i've seen people get away with it but i imagine forming a raid is harder.
I’m using my OSRS name for my Forever character self insert (Male Human Paladin)
>>581106954HR/SR IS NOW ILLEGALIT'S FREE ROLL ONLYCORRUPTED ASHBRINGER UP FOR GRABNO MORE CLIQUE DICTATORSHIP
>>581107289just be one of those dudes who said "yeah me and the guys at the barracks used to play WoW. We raided."
>>581107269he didnt like the lame cinematic but thinks the actual gameplay could be okare you allergic to nuance?
>>581106727I just wish WoW mods worked the same, even if we have inferior models and shit. I want to be able to change just myself and then I want to be able to sync with other modders to see theirs and they can see mine. I hate that WoW just mods every single NPC and player.
>>581107271I really hope it does. If not I'll always be able to find a guild of fellow 30 year old boomers to shoot the shit with.
>>581107269You really just shouldn't watch anyone who is fat in general. If they're slovenly with their own body, they will be lazy with many aspects of their lives, including anything they create.
>>581104803this is the one thing everyone agrees is complete dogshit right? I want to level and I want to get gear, I don't want to worry about gay achievement points.
>>581107289to catch up to what exactly?
>>581107289> basic trainingenjoy dying for globohomo! I will be comfy winter leveling in forever and getting my dick waxed by skelves.
>ogre warrior>ogre shaman>ogre mage>ogre warlock>ogre hunter>But anon, ogres aren't--Yet. This is my swamp now.
Why did they leave herbalism/mining/skinning as primary professions? Don't they realize it's one of the major contributing factors to thirdies dominating consume markets?
>>581107067that will depend on the itemization at end game, and could easily change over time, just pick which race you think is cooler
>>581106538Pesky bee!
>>581107325We already know that one futa fag who played a Malezen is here. Can't remember his name, but he was stalking another troon named Tina.
>>581107524I think it's fine some of the effects are kind of crazy though I wasn't expecting the honor or profession stuff
>>581106727holy fuck...I kneel xivsissies...
>>581107463HAIL FREE ROLL
>>581107451>my 20/31 riptide melee shaman is going to be insane, you'll see
So what are you rolling?
>no jewelcrafting>no inscription
>>581107698Not sure. Shaman or Rogue probably. Rogues seem to suck so probably Shaman, Enh or Resto.
>>581107769good
>>581107463I remember one warlock winning that shit for his felguard future transmog
>>581106993Every single developer who is working on WoW: Forever is a regular and avid tiktok user. You get what you're pay for, from whom you're paying.
Yet another worst case scenario for the story, they had the chance to do real meaningful bold change that could have saved everything by making Nightelves, Forsaken, and Bloodelves neutral staying true to wc3 which built everything.Instead we got OC Kyrian elves hamfisted into the game and wc3 senselessly with the same shitty class imbalance and the same boring deviation from wc3 just to force an outdated and dead two faction system
>>581107158it's the dance from pulp fiction. is everyone underage here?
>>581107698undead mage, tho i do think orc mage will be slept on for being good.Honestly just a waiting room for ogre mage when they add them eventually.
>>581107769
>>581107853its the exact same one on the screenshot lol
>>581104803I dont like the legacy system either. feels too much like retail and that shit is going to be busted on day one. any talent that affects combat in anyway should be taken out. so Thrill of Adventure and the ones you mentioned
>addons in Forever are gonna be restricted like retailNice this is actually a good thing
>>581107289i missed out on almost all of CATA, and MoP because of deployments anon, it will be okay, also dont try to play during AIT or OSUT, just wait till you are in unit, but also dont play as soon as you get to unit, get situated with a good post work lifting rutine and only when you know you can juggle duty hours and fitness try to hop in the game. i have chapterd more than a handfull of kids who get out of training and just let everything go to have a good time.
>>581107698i want tauren warrior, but i think dwarf warrior since my gay ass freinds want alliance
>>581107908The kicking part is from a tiktok. The twist part doesn't look like the Jackrabbit Slim scene at all.
>>581106849LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581107698Will main paladin (humie if alliance) and level with friendsMy solo leveling alt is going to be a lock, most likely going to ding 60 first.
>>581107893They are going to add blood elves eventually, no way they arent cashing in on that.
>>581107592I'm pro ogreOgre mages and warlocks need to be forced to have 2 heads though
>>581107289You'll be playing in December assuming you leave in Oct. you won't be able to do the new raids on drop obviously but if Blizzard does this right you'll still be able to do them later on. But honestly don't even worry about playing until you get to your first duty station.As an ex-zogbot I will tell you this though go to medical for everything so when you finish your 4 year contract you can go to the VA to collect that sweet-sweet VA disability, and play video games for the rest of your life.
>>581107698Troll warrior if my IRL friends play, nelf priest if they don'teither way I'm not playing the beg for invites role on launch
>>581107592>implying they'll bother to rig a new race that doesn't exist in retail already.
>>581107698undead warrior. ill probably play alliance during beta though try that out and so I can keep it fresh when I play horde on launch. might just go kitty during beta
>>581107325based, fuck macchi
>>581107684>All these retards saying melee Stormstrike weave Shaman is going to be good in PvP>bro why is Elemental Masterino gone?? These people literally never played Classic PvP.Elemental + NS will once again be the burst king in BG's, Elemental Mastery always was a meme build like PoM Pyro mage and these retards always forget you can use NS OFFENSIVELY as well with a double Chain Lightning (now with 40% chance to double the hit for 50% more damage).
>wowhead has been constantly late in delivering news about wow forever since launchare there any better websites to get news and updates than this dogshit?
>>581107698depends on what whoever I end up playing with has playingeither hpal, disc priest, or some kind of shaman
>>581107990its fine because they destroyed boosting so leveling alts will be slower than in classic
>>581108195mmo champion?
how will hordecucks cope with being a 50% elf faction again
>>581108195/wowfg/
>>581107698how is orc even remotely balanced?
>>581107216>35-36 yo man>most likely does a skincare routine and wears makeup to make himself look feminine>still looks 50rough
>>581108283how do you see NE and Gnome and say Orc instead
>your next melee attackSo this only works for a single auto attack and then you have to twist again? Lmao
>>581108012Proof? Please
>>581107698Human lock
>>581107698Human Paladin (main)Human Rogue (alt)Human Warrior (alt)Human Mage (alt)
>>581108195vibecoded website i likehttps://www.azerotharchive.com/
>BLOOD THIRST GIVES YOU 10% MOVE SPEED FOR 10 SECONDS>6 SECOND CDfury now bis pve, leveling AND pvp?
>>581108190People are not gonna waste half their points going down the resto tree just to cast an instant lightning bolt every 3min lmao
>>581107853based
>>581108356NE and Gnome have a wasted passive each with the garbage speed while dead and engi
>>581108121I will get the game if they're neutral but it's complete dogshit that nightelves aren't, the game has already buried half its potential.Especially with Forsaken getting paladins, Wc3 Nightelves being closer aspected to the Horde, there is zero reason that those two races shouldn't be able to join anyone and for everyone to be unfriendly > friendly cap with the opposite faction. That alone doubles the quest, gets rid of faction imbalance, lets everyone play and group together, and lets everyone pvp against each other.
>>581108370that's how twisting works yes it's one gcd per swing cycle
>>581108159Aggrend already teased ogres having an interesting interaction with the Horde in one of the new zones.
>Kris Zierhut: “Yes. Now, one place experience did change is we made a big change to our dungeons. In that the amount of XP you get from killing monsters in dungeons, we brought way down.oh shit
>>581108410warrior has no problem getting around in pvp and mortal strike is too good to leave on the tablejust have your dress wearer give you bof
undead mage sisters... are we still the coolest race/class combination?
>>581108370What did your smooth brain think twisting was?
>>581108410It was the same on TurtleFury was a complete meme in PvP there, however Fury now gets root immunity every 30 seconds with Berserker Rage so that's pretty good.
>>581108283SHHH everyone is focused on Gnome being OP right now. Ignore the fact that Orc is strictly better version of their retail racials.
When are we getting Wildstar classic? that game would rule
>>581108195the new lighting and fog engine looks so good in the NE forests, too bad it's ruined dogshit by not having them horde/alliance
>>581108540terrible change just because thirdies were trying to sell carries and streamers were too scared to quest because they all picked a pvp server
>>581108410pve and leveling yeah but not pvp >>581108458so? the other racials are better than what Orc gives also the engineering thing is pretty good
>>581107698>meld in combatsecond vanish for rogues is crazyeven crazier that it might still be worse than human
>>581107698I hate anything that gives you an edge for having a certain type of weapon. Feel like it's a wasted and pointless racial. With that being said either Nelf or Gnome, I just have a feeling that everyone is going to roll Undead and the horde will be the retard containment faction.
>>581108541>>581108665>>581108587idk man improved zerker rage removes snares/slows on use along with fear and gouge/sap? i can see fury being decent when gear is better, you could blow up people fast, not to mention less cd on intercept.
>>581108121Well they are already on the continent. I´d say it's 50/50 if they are going to be added as playable faction or new hostile faction, Silvermoon and Quel'danas raids could be cool.Imagine the ghostlands as new end game zone and Silvermoon city being made a new Blackrock Depths style massive dungeon that you need to complete in order to attune to Quel'Danas raid.
>>581108195WOW SO REALISTIC
its...its beautiful...
>no dungeon mapsDoes the game need to be archaic in so many areas because of not its too retail?
>>581108607MMOs have to be for casuals or they're doomed to fail.
DOES THIS HAVE THE FORSAKEN CUSTOMIZATION OPTION TO HIDE THE UGLY FUCKING BONES SO MY GEAR DOESNT LOOK LIKE ASS?
sex with elves
>>581108432NS was always basically mandatory on Shaman and Druid in Classic PvP because you can cast a max rank Healing Wave/Healing Touch on yourself instantly, essentially giving you a 2nd health bar.If you don't know what you're talking about just keep your mouth shut, you're embarrassing yourself little gup
>>581108356>>581108681NE shadowmeld just works as a fade (threat reduction) if used in combat. It's no longer a free vanish.
paladins still won't be able to kill priests
>>581108647objectively wrongthis is an amazing changeboosting is dead
>>581107698I'm thinking either troll rogue, shadow priest (either troll or undead) and tauren female warrior. Not sure which one I'll go yet
>>581108736funny, this is exactly the same build I came up with when I first opened the talent calulator.
>>581108728
>>581108647fuck boosting>>581108859this based
>>581108878its the esfand build and its going to be the most popular ret buildremember to thank your ret god esfand the greatest paladin in the world
>>581108716doesn't matter we've been here before, arms is the PVP spec because of MS if you need a way to remove snares group with a paladin
>>581108859ok so you can get rid of boosting by implementing something like you get severely reduced xp if someone is 5-10 levels higher or limit resests to 3 a day or something
Xaryu's comments on the Forever UI:>I don't like it, and if nothing changes... I'll use an addon
when do i get my beta invitei didn't paypig for it, i opted in
Is the name Black Bull lore friendly for my tauren character?
>>581108607>every attack is a telegraphed aoe : the gameI'm good
>>581108776>wants to play as a corpse>but doesn't want to look like shitjust pick the sky elf
>>581107463HR/SR?
>>581109023err, sorry chud, only blizzard approved addons are allowed and blizzard knows the retail ui is the best for you
>no summoning stonesclassic?
WTS PLAINSTRIDER MENACE BOOST
>>581109065kek
>forsaken pally stands up straightupright undead when
>>581108736this shit will be able to maintain dps for about 30 seconds before ooming out
>>581108736>prot paladins still can't get holy shock>no avenger's shield eitherGreat, still going to have to beg like a cuck for the hunter or mage to ranged pull stuff for me when tanking
>>581108665>the other racials are better than what Orc gives>Offensive CD>15% DR to magic on a CD with niche decurse>ALWAYS reducing stuns instead of being RNG>niche axe crit, this one is the worst>being worse than NE and Gnome shitdelusional
>>581109091Human Resources and Shadow Reach
>lock aoe taunt is in the spellbookBut what does it mean???
>>581109181throw a grenade
>ele shaman still will go oom in 15 seconds
>>581106923They can detect bots they just don't ban them. They have 100% banned people for model editing in the past, although the last time titty modders got swept up in a banwave they got reverted or reduced
*squats down and farts on wowfornever*GET FUCKED TRANNIES LMAAAOOOO
>>581109248The SoD specs are in
>>581109015now that night elf is actually good for warrior, i can finally be like the chad swifty.
>tfw can't think about you good secondary name
Friendly reminder, Alexensual runs this thread
Orcs and Trolls are too OP. Undead is best for Priest and that's about it if I'm not missing something.
>>581109181>begIt's called giving orders if you're a Chad
>>581108190Stormstrike might work for elemental in pve but that's itGiving up:Meditation for 50% mana regen (are they dumping spirit on dps caster gear?)Natural grace for -15% threatTidal focus, hit is always goodMana tideA global every 12seconds For a +20% damage increase, but not for flame shock, fire totems and lava burst, is a tough trade
>>581109181You will take engineering and use consumes for every ranged pull. That or you always carry ex throw dynamite with youPay the pull tax.
>>581109338What?
>>581109248warlock tank is going to have 75% damage reduction
>>581109334there was a nelf warrior in my guild in 2019worst player in the guild easily
>>581109004First I was like who the fuck is Esfand, I think I have heard that name before so I had to google him.Holy shit this is probably the most American looking American I could ever Imagine Americaning, What the fuck he looks like muddy potato in a vague shape of an human.
>>581109227>>ALWAYS reducing stuns instead of being RNGA 20% chance to resist a 5 second stun from a rogue or paladin is way better than 100% reducing it by 1 second.
>>581109338>secondary name is she/they
>>581109325Warlock tank is soulfulYou needed a warlock to tank for AQ40It's in the spirit of vanilla
>>581109418Yes, but night elf will be the meta for warriors on alliance now. 10% crit for 15 sec? nutty.
>>581109173there's like 4 different mana regen talents in there though
>>58110922710% crit is better than 10% ap/speureka damage and cost reduction is better than 10% ap/sp escape artist and shadowmeld are both better in pvp than the combination of active magic damage reduction and stun reductionthe only thing orc has over them is 15% magic dr for pve but whatever that's negligible
>>581109415you have two names
>>581109019Sorry but you will not speedrun to 60 by spamming dungeons only to complain to Blizzard that you want more end-game content while everyone else is enjoying the game.
>>581109375Shadowguard is still shadow priest bis racial spell
>>581109338>secondary name: class>hide secondary namesfixed
Gonna make my characters' surnames be Schlomo
>>581109338Ttv for free itemz
your retribution raid build has arrived
Are they making Dungeon Quests less of a hassle to acquire?
>>581109563I understand that, I didn't understand the words you posted in the order you posted them in.
>>581109310We could have had any of these instead of blue elves...
Why yes. I am going night elf male. How could you tell?
>>581109563>first nameGeorgefloyd>second nameFentking
Can't decide between Undead Warlock and Undead Rogue
>>581109667they are going to be unshareable in forever
>>581109338Use your main interweb gaymer tag as your secondary name for all your characters.
>>581109375The undead new passive that deals damage based on your health might be better than orc or troll for warlock.
>>581109771I'm going to be undead warlock so you can be undead rogue
Please come back to retail
>>581108283Is the Metzen factor>>581109557NE has higher CD and it's their only 1 dps racial, orc has 2
>>581109771I'm going to be undead rogue so you can be undead warlock
>>581109567what? if i want to do another dungeon run with my group we're then disincentivized because thirdies were boosting?dont be disingenuous please
>>581109653real ret raid build
>>581109338Six Seven
>>581109771Warlocks will be top 2 dps, needed for summons, underplayed. Rogues didn't get much and have 2 useless talent trees.
>>581104803Where the fuck are you reading "5 extra talent points"?That's not what it says. It just says you start getting talent points sooner.Fucking smoothbrains...
>still no wowcg threadkwab
pochi pochie...
>>581109771I'm already undead warlock
>>581109338Jenkins
>>581109719Teldrassil is going to be so kino.
>>581109338Patel
>>581109338Arthas
>>581110034are surnames unique or will we see thousands of Jenkins walking around?
Blizzard should seriously consider removing mandatory factions.The Horde and Alliance can still exist as political groups, but locking entire races into one side feels outdated. Your race shouldn't automatically determine your enemies and loyalties.It also creates increasingly awkward lore, like the Skyborne being split up just to fit the old red vs blue system.Keep the factions. Remove the racial restrictions. Let characters choose where they belong
>>581104803>start playing the game late>reach level 5>some priest next to me already has a point in wand spec>outdpsing me when I fight gnolls in Elwynn>get mad and uninstall the gameWhat were they thinking?!
>retail>sod>era>tbc classic>mop classic>foreverAm I missing any?
playing alliance is kinda boring and cliche, isnt it?
>>581108736They need to come up with a way to make seal twisting cheaper or nobody is going to bother dumping all their mana for that.They could make it so you gain the echo after judging to bring back the old seal after judgement rotation. Also bring back double dipping righteousness off command procs
how is faction locking going to work with 1 mega server
>>581110180remix
>>581109415oh sorry dyslexia
Dwarf nation how we feeling?
>>581109921You're not disincentivized though? You can do another run for loot? Just say you're trying to speedrun to 60 by spamming dungeons. Which isn't the intention in WoW forever. Era is right there if you want to do that.
>>581108410>no mortal strikefury won't do shit for damage or have - healing
>>581110204They should remove factions entirely
>>581110163100%, if they want the game to have legs and be something people play forever then drop factions, it's an absolutely needless barrier.At least drop it in PvE realm, make it only matter in BGs and nothing else.
>>581110258kill stuntieselfchads rule this game
>>581110163Skyborn is blizzards own lore own goal.Lame bait
>>581110187seeing as how horde have been the blizzard favorite for decades, no
Defias-Pillager
>>581110161The names are most likely wholly unique, as in there can be a Red Blue, Green Blue and Red Yellow, but no duplicates of any of the above
>Warcraft 3 ended with Illidan's fate being unknownYou guys realize that Illidan and the gang don't have to be stuck in Outland in Forever, right?
>>581110282>Just say you're trying to speedrun to 60 by spamming dungeonsi said dont be disingenuous i never implied i wanted to spam dungeons i just dont want some penalty to xp because blizzard is retarded
>>581110258going to have elf bitches sucking my dick for totems for years
>>581110187horde is unironically better now that they got their own cock slave race
>>581110315go play retail nigger
>>581104773Saw this on the forever talents page. Did they actually reduce damage number for spells to make up for more spelldamage being available with items or what's going on?
>>581107698what's the ley line thing on the sky elf racials? and I have to assume the mana regen only works for mana, any amount of energy regen or rage bonus would be obviously OP. So that ability only giving HP regen for warriors and rogues seems pretty shit.
>>581106112>in classic healers just healwrong
>>581110371>blizzard favorite for decadesmakes sense, since they are a more interesting faction and have more room for a new narrative. humans elves and dwarfs has been done to death.
>>581110515forever is retail
>>581110527oh good point I never checked, that makes sense about them putting SP in gear then
>>581109420Hey, I´m Esfand the American streamer
>>581107698Tauren Hunter, just grinding to 60 mostly ignoring quests, not sure if I even want to do raids or dungeons, might do Wailing Caverns and Sunken temple for nostalgia reasons.gonna be big chilling
>>581110559priests wand and MC
>>581110576your argument falls apart when half the faction is elves
>>581109181Holy shock looks better than holy shield for single target, going for the hit talents might be a stretch though
>>581110557We don't exactly know what the convergences are.Their regen specifically says health and mana.
>>581109023try forming your own opinions
>>581105883>its only on non-trivial, probably silver/named mobs which make up 1% of killsare retail trannies this fucking retarded? for real?
>>581110527>>581110645holy shit they like halved the damage some of these spells do baseline, good catch
Adoring-Fan
>>581109420>>581110657funny you guys say that because he's not even american
Is it true that PvE/Normal ruleset tends to have a nicer community compared with PvP? I've heard this multiple times but I don't have any data to confirm it
>>581110773Xaryu's comments on Skelves:>It's not made up lore, all lore is made up
>>581110559LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>581109023the fact that you can toggle everything except the new UI and your gender is crazy
>>581105883Non trivial just means mobs that arent grey, retard.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/dungeon-experience-changes-in-world-of-warcraft-forever-382898they listened to me, nice
Angela-White
>>581110835yeah and rp has the nicest
>>581110180>sod era tbc mopNow all irrelevant lumped into the classic wow tab nobody needs to ever touch again.
xaryu is a paid shill who only ever has safe opinions on everything
>>581110835Think of what kind of person likes open world pvp (i.e. ganking)
Stoya
>>581110664DUUUUDE WEEEED DUUUUUDE BROOOO WEEEED LMAOOOOO
>>581105909learn to heal efficientlyim usually never in trouble with mana unless the group is clearing fast anyways so i put in shadow word pain and wand, maybe mind blast or smites if i'd regen over max anywayssniping the kill on mobs for spirit tap while leveling is a fun mini game and allows you to have even more excess mana to put into dps
I’m dedicating all of my time at launch to griefing Asmon. I pray his ego is too fragile to roll on PvE. I’m gonna make this faggot quit if he gives me the chance.
>midnight currently listed at full priceare they insane? who the fuck is going to pay full price for this dogwater expansion at this point
>>581110764yeah but the gnome racial also only mentioned mana when viewed on a mana using class, but it does apply to energy and rage as well. I can't see the sky elf one doing the same, how could you possibly have a 15 minute long energy regen boost? and it wouldn't even apply to rage because it doesn't regen.I wonder what it even means by regen in the first place, is it your base regen or does it include your spirit bonus?
>>581110987Bot
>>581110942this is based we're so fucking back
FACT: xaryu is whiter than 90% of the people in this threadalso, he is sponsored by blizzard so i don't know why people are taking what he says as gospel
>>581111021Like you'll ever find him with the billions of realmless layers
>>581108718> Lets make kaelthas a raid boss AGAINyeh lets not, unless the raid is to clear quelthelas of the scourge.
>>581110467Then don't run the dungeon again? Or better yet don't play the game. Forever wasn't made for you.
>>581111035Why are you looking at it?Why are you upset about it?
Josephion Bidenethor
>>581111064go back to reddÃt
>>581110981he sounds and looks like he has 80 IQ
>>581111092cant even have a real conversation only disingenuous babblesorry youre like that
>>581110527I don't know it's just a fake image I made with inspect element lmao
PVP or PvE (I am employed)
>>581111089He's texting John Blizzard on stream right now trying to get answers to questions like "Can you have a horde and alliance on PvP ruleset?"
they did a good job with the trees, hardly any useless talents
>>581111158>waah waaah I want to spam dungeons to 60Forever is not for you.
>>581111196RP
/ourguy/ is NOT happy with wow forever.>youre telling me I cant play the game like I want>with 3 different accounts>soloing an end game dungeon>then logging out with world buffs to do naxx gdkp for the 100th time?>REEEEE
>>581109921it combats boosting and people grinding dungeons for levelinggo ahead and do them again to help someone else do quests or to get an item drop but yeah you're gimping your exp doing it
>>581111196Matter of taste reallyPvP is super fucking fun but it's not for everyone
>>581111282brown
>>581111282we all know whyhttps://streamable.com/phmm9k
Has there been ANY word on how the fuck they are going to combat botting and cheating this time? Classic servers were ruined fast by that shit going unchecked.
>>581111282Isn't this the guy literally too stupid to handle tbc/wrath mechanics?
>>581111279Don’t want to play with troons sorry
Is Pilav going to be ganking again?
Why are so many disingenuous faggot losers using the excuse that forever is "free" when it costs a subscription?A lot of players have paid a sub for 20+ years, the subscription is what funds everything nothing from nu blizzard is free.If you buy a token it costs your time and another player has to pay 20 dollars to enter that token into the economy for you to use your gold onYou actually pay blizzard a premium when buying products and sub time with tokens.I just think it's hilarious so many faggot losers and reddit faggots keep sprouting this "Forever is free!!! hurr durr" bullshit everywhere, literal brainrotted losers.Anyway sucks we will only enjoy forever for 2 weeks before the omega goat GTA VI releases on nov 19th.
>>581111282this retard is just mad he won't be able to flop his world buffs within three minutes of the run starting any more
>>581111353well they are gonna be giga juiced with cash from selling races compared to classic so maybe they will put more effort into moderating it.
>>581111278based blizzdrone
>>581111282ourguy is alex
>gnome priestdo I go engineering so I don't have a useless racial and so I can rocket boots + levitateteleporter is also neatthe stam bonus from mining seems kind of useless and I'm not sure what else engineering gives if I don't want to tryhard in pvp
>>581111121he's got a bachelor's degree in CIS, so he's clearly not mentally retardedalso he's got a loving wife and sonthe only issue I have with him is that he worries too much about creating the PG13 environment on his streams, so he almost never voices his actual opinions on anything for fear of alienating a part of his audiencehe's basically the streamer equivalent of saturday morning children's programming
>>581111196PvP. Don't get bricked world pvp is half the fun of this game.
>>581111196RP-PVP after it's added during beta
>>581111089also he married a hot spanish milf
>>581111196depends, do you get more enjoyment for ruining other peoples fun than you lose getting your enjoyment ruined.WoW open world PvP is just bullying and getting bullied depending who is in more favorable situation. Balanced PvP doesn't exist.
>>581111282can someone redpill me on wbuffs? i'm confused how people enjoyed them when the optimal way to play was to log out until the next raid so you could min/max their duration
>>581111423pilav is a retail shill
>>581111282>unironically complaining that you can't autistically powerlevel in the same dungeon for 20 levelslol
>>581111429It's free compared to expansions like Midnight which have a boxed entry fee.Are you genuinely retarded? How can you not understand this?
>>581107698I have so many characters on my character list but I don't even know if it is feasible to play so many. One of the characters is a Sky Elf Male Balance Druid who is duplicated on Alliance and Horde to RP as a Neutral Character.
>>581111350this is 95% of era puristspilav was right
>>581111353No and the game will be filled with it, once the initial hype wave dies down (november 19th for GTA VI) and every bit of meta is mapped out the newbie zones will have a flood of bots and once the early reaction videos no longer gain traction the grifters will shift to the usual "what went wrong?!" videos, with some highlighting the army of bots running together and devouring quest content.
Please tell me hunter Dire Maul North solo runs are still going to be a thing. Learning the routes and trying to beat my own clear times were some of the most fun i have had with wow
>>581111383stay away from pvp then
>>581110527we simply don't know
>>581111516/ourguy/
>>581111456We get it your a third worlder who needs to sell dungeons run to feed his family but I don't you in my game.
>>581111532People loved getting world buffs for leveling. Having to stack them for raiding was gay as fuck.
>>581111532no one liked them but felt they had to use them for MUH PARSING
>>581111516shes older than him?
>>581111650based disingenuous blizzdrone
>>581111532autism. unironically. >reeee no changes (autists are notorious about hating change in their routine)
>>581111640Why is PvP bad?
>>581109667They will add ascension's quest orb :^)
>>581111516>>581111503women are known to pic low IQ men over high IQ menthe smartest men never reproduce
>>581111516he's like 5'7, so she must be a 4'11 mestizo midget
>>581111735Shitters get destroyed so they call pvpers troons.
>>581111484we have no idea what professions are going to look like, but we probably will tomorrow
>>581108736Is this for pvp? I was thinking more along PvE lines so I skipped all the pussy healing talents and mana while casting shit. I also hate that instrument of the law is so far down Ret. I want two handed weapon spec, but I can't get it as 21/0/30 if I also want 20% threat reduction.
>all hybrid mana dps users still go oom in 1 minuteWhen will classic cucks realize mana is complete fucking dogshit? It was changed over the expansions for a reason.
>>581111568I would hope so it's all REUSED ASSETS you fucking moron, same reason classic versions are "free".There's only a tiny amount of actual free content, it's literally sod 2.0How brain washed are you? it's not a brand new game you will be playing in 90% old zones from literally 2004 (developed in 2000-2003) using reused abilities and passives from past retail expansions.Even the "new race" is just a literal race from 2006 after someone took the textures and changed the gama in photoshop
Sudaca here, is 177ms playable in pvp on a rogue? I know WoW has a particular netcode that puts a lot of stuff on the client side, and also there's a GCD of, what, 100ms?
>>581111785>jealous and poor
>>581111429>shilling for Goy Theft Amalek in 2026LMFAOOOOOOO
>>581111627Fuck off dungeon spammer just play era or retail this game is not for you
>>581111859dont respond to doomerfags, they will never be happy.
>>581111784oh yea, the reason why you don't have a girlfriend is because all the girls are scared of your massive intellect
>>581111735troons are going to punch nazis
Yall cant even into rpTwo names gives you HUGE freedom in what to do.Titles, Sir Frederick, King Norash, The RogueFamilial trees for alts, have every character have the same last nameHave names actually be lore accurate, like Trolls like Zul'Jin where Zul and Jin are actually separate wordsOr just have really goofy shit like insanely long names at max character length for both names or silly shit like Hugh Mongus
You anons will be ganking streamers right? We cant let them takeover the one pvp server
Why do people not want a barbershop? No transmogs I understand but how does being able to change your hairstyle detract from the game?
>>581107070lazy niggers have been the norm since 2004, shut the fuck up larping zoomlet lmao
>>581111859Why do browns and trannys like (You)rself hate GTA so much?it's literally game of the century
>still no beta codes sent out
Wait there is going to be a barber in forever wow and you can change your gender? What the fuck?
Man there is literally nothing for arcane outside of the arcane tree except the 3 point incineration in fire, and even that is weak.
>>581111503>he's basically the streamer equivalent of saturday morning children's programminglol what do you think streamers are, anon?
>>581111862bodied that freak
>>581111090There’s plenty of other people with the same goal that will hop layers until we find him and then congregate. Not hard to do when you’re broadcasting your location.
>>581111940asmongold already said he's playing on a pve server with mcconnell and esfand
>>581111836balance and shadow will be fine with mana just ele will be shit and idk about ret
>>581111836you are expected to gear for spirit in forever if you have a mana bar
>>581112030Good.
you can toggle your gender? we fucking won!
>this mogged >retail >classic >private servers >people love it >this is wow 2
>>581112010>xhe thinks blizz will give out free keys day 1
>>581111936thank you for taking the time to explain what a name is anon
>>581112070did he change his mind? I swear I heard him say he was playing on the pvp server. what a coward bitch
>>581112070pvp chads stay winning
>>581112070KWABADABADOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581109803did anyone confirm if it can proc off of dots?
>>581111350>https://streamable.com/phmm9kholy shit the one at 1:50 is the most retarded thing I have ever seen in my life
>>581111841Good. All new assets they have made after WOTLK look like hot dogshit.
>>581111532i mean... there's not much to do in between raid lockouts, so why not?
>>581111926>speak the truth>some low value male disingenuous tranny loser calls you a "doomer"enjoy your pride parades, RMT, and botting experience from nu blizzard you little faggot.
i don't like that ai image so i filtered it
>>581111627will be if they don't nerf the raw price of the itemsmy problem this time is that the other professions may be really good and having to level engi/bs to open the door may not be good
>>581111936>silly shit like Hugh Mongusreported and banned for offensive name
>>581111691yeah a bit haha
>>581112085you cant toggle your gender because blizzard are chuds
>>581111945Because barbershop will let you change your character's gender (trannyshit)
>>581111350This is me btw
>>581109803I hope so but have a feeling sadly that Troll will be better.
>PvP chards keep winning, most streamers are going pve lol lmao even enjoy the inv to asmon layer chat cancer spam
>>581107698>Mostly everyone choose Horde
>>581112034just play fire in pve and frost in pvparcane is gay and lame and I hate that it was the go to mage dps spec for most of wow's timespan
>>581112170its peak cryboomer kino
>pve layers will be full of bots and assmongoloid ratsYep, it's PvP or RP.
>>581112001Whiter than you Ranjit.
I am announcing my transition from EU Roleplay to EU PvP because it won the wowfg popularity vote and I want to be in the wowfg layer
>>581112347as things currently stand if you're smart you go alliance because the racials are better for both PvP and PvE
>>581112173I agree, my point was it's not an expansion full of new assets so of course they're only charging a sub because it's just sod 2.0 reusing vanilla assets.If they legitimately had put effort into remaking a brand new vanilla game it 100% would had a box price.
all i know is that i better not be trying to connect to their c*lifornia server
>>581112291source? oh right, there is none
what is the likelihood of rppvp? with the mega servers it seems like the chance of it getting added is slim.
Is griefing hc players as a bear tank with shadow melt an actionable offence or not? And how high would i need to lvl to prevent them from being able to react to it?
>>581111945I suspect it is just 'that wasn't in Classic' reflex.this is Classic+. Obvious QOL such as barber shop is good.Imagine them charging for appearance changes again lol.
>>581112196engi is always going to be the bis profession
>>581112371pvp is always best for bot slaying and disrupting their logistics. even better if the faction balance is not screwed.
INV TO ASMON SHARD
>be EU>no streamers >comfy pve server ? it wasn't that hard
>>581107698Troll shadow priest until the amount of Skyborne make me play Alliance or quit
>>581112421not sure but people been repeating Chicago for NA server
I need the opinion of the three bastions of antisemitism, what do:>king "Kikebane" Kugen>Pilav the brown>Sheen Dali>Method JoshThink of wow forever?
>every class has 3 talent trees>can only save 2 specs instead of 3 with dual specmake it make sense
>>581111350Yeah, he's shit but he also got a point as to having raids that don't require to read guides beforehand on what is going to happen because the game communicates shit so poorly in all that visual mess
>>581112170watch 3:50 and you'll be surprised
>>581112034yeah it's weird hopefully they change some thingskind of just have like 7 points with nowhere to spend them
>>581112474they will hop on to layers where there are no opposing faction that might kill them
>>581112523based if true
>>581112178>get world buff>continuing to play that character is now inefficientfuck outta here with that shit
>play on pvp because im based>try to enter zone>its completely controlled by a guild because it has valuable trade matsnow this is classic
>>581112360Looking at it closer I think they intend for you to subspec fire, because missile barrage can proc from fireball/frostbolt and arcane blast's debuff increases all of your spell damage not just arcane
>>581112412Keep telling yourself that, Esfat.>>581112474Why would bots turn on warmode? they will all function on the nonflag selections, I actually expect the meta to be whatever the Forever RP addon is used by bots and they just throw a OOC flag in their profile and a chatgpt summary of their character so no one reports them.
>>581112469why?we don't know what they have done to the others yet and they definitely don't want 90% of the people being engi on the pvp servers
inv to asmon shart plz
we need a streamer hunting guild. now that dungeon xp is nerfed they will be forced to quest. cant wait to sit on asmons corpse for 3 hours as he complains to the admins to ban us
>>581112526kungen seems to love the idea of it and has been deep diving forever stuff daily, said he will do both pve and hardcore forever
>>581112140who cares what balding reatard says, dude has been larping as a hardcore his whole life, when in reality he was too a lazy fuck tarded for a normal 9-5 job and lucked out because his mom let him live in their house for free, always gone the path of least restiance/effort, I can not play Mythic raids no more too busy streaming->can not stream games no more too busy reacting->can not react no more to busy doing business
>>581111350jesus christthe last time I did totc I was 12 years old on a shitty internet connection and even then I knew not to run into the path of the charging yeti boss
>>581111350Wow he’s actually complete garbage. Every one of those fights can be understood with 60 seconds of a YouTube video and you’ll have no problems at all. Please tell me he has a lootship death.
>>581112640>hop on one of the other infinite layers availableYes just how I remembered it in 2004
>>581104773My theory is that they are trying to compensate for no world buffs, these numbers are ridiculous.
Why do retards always beg for "hard" content and then not even clear it?
>>581112707That was fucking funny watching him roll on a pvp server and then endlessly cry about pvp.
>>581112707>pve>streamer hunting
Are cartels gonna spam report you if you dare to pick up certain crafting materials?
>>581112474>pvp is always best for bot slaying and disrupting their logistics. even better if the faction balance is not screwed.bots can just play on a pve server and then switch to a pvp server to sell gold if they wanted to
first name nigsecond name ger
>>581112526will he be playing? what class will he be rolling?
>>581112580theyre going to be layer hopping constantly anyways because its the quickest way to find rare unsalvaged mats, which is why this game shouldnt have layering
>>581112707Are the server flags changeable whenever? otherwise they will only flag when they have a group obviously.
>>581112527>pvp>pveor>pve role 1>pve role 2
>>581112757you don't need to theorize, they explained themselves they boosted sp on only caster weapons to make them more impactful. they didn't boost sp on gear across the board, ultimately it will amount to a single digit percentage dps increase.
>>581112707enjoy getting a warning from their gm buddies monitoring you and then getting auto-banned because the fanbase mass-reported you
>>581112603why play with a character outside raiding lol at some point there's nothing left to do, it's either raid or roll an alt
>>581112787When you enter Un'Goro in Forlo you get a lottery ticket and every 20 minutes they draw to see if you get to fight the dino.
>>581112815this guy fucks
>>581112673sappersgrenadeslevitation cloakchickensap helmetdeath raythe list goes on
>>581112536thats what a raid leader is for to summarize the fight in 30 seconds
>>581112847ye layer hopping should not be a thing, but at least here is no group finder to make it easy
>>581112783they got players banned for streamsniping even though the streamers had killed them first outside of so now I hate them. I will ruin it for streamers. wow forever belongs to the chud nonstreamers
>>581112948there're now 650+ new recipes spread over the profesions...
please wowfgcan all the chuds go pvp hordeand the trannies go pvp allianceso we can fight in the open worldwould be greatthank you
>>581112767They hate other mmos or versions of WoW making fun of them for how easy Classic is. Then the moment we get Ulduar half the playerbase dips.
>>581112526I saw small P shit on pissrael, but what have Kungen and the others said?
>>581112948there is no way they make engi a required profession for all level 60s again that would be retarded with the changes they're making
>>581112234You know you could do that before barbershops, right? Actually we own the trannies a thank you because we got gender swaps for free because of them when it used to be paid.
>>581104679>Human>Male>Melee HunterI think its gaming time
>>581107698Orc ShamanTauren WarriorTroll WarlockUndead Paladin(in beta)Human Paladin(to actually play)
>>581112948all of those could have been nerfed for all we know
>>581112934Just do names that are fairly obvious and sound like nigger but not bannable. I'll give you one for free: Big Neregar.
>>581112787yes 100%there's no way they dropped the auto ban function but I imagine they will temp hire CS support for at least the first month so you're at least safe until the inevitable population drop, maybe 2 months? although most mmo staff go on a hefty vacation during christmas and new years so you might get fucked late dec all the way through to late january if you fuck with the wrong set of bots.
>>581112787yesthe moment you mine an rtv you'll get multiple whispers in broken english followed by mass reporting
There should be a layer selector in the game, each layer should be numbered and you can travel them on demand.Also your current layer should be visible on your screen at all times, and move around randomly so you can't block it with an overlay or addon.
>>581112527Why even have talent trees if you have have 3 specs? Hell I don't think you should even have 2, or at least have 2 but you can only swap specs at a trainer/innkeeper. You shouldn't be able to change specs out in the world or mid raid or whatever
>>581113016except chuds trannychase and join pvp alliance. horde is all dad gamers.
>actual fun balance >new dung dungeons zones >new items >new recipes >new races classes>no flying >no sum stones ??? what the fuck are whiners complaining about even
>>581113016yes plus guilds for each side so we can have a rivalry
>>581113024Sheen is there as diversity hire.Kungen is racist.Josh is Josh, he hates Jews for being better predators than him.
I never played priest in vanilla/tbc. Do any of the priest racials count as holy that knock you out of shadow form?
PLEASE INVITE TO ELAYNNA LAYER
>>581112856I hope they have some sort of timer else youre right streamers will only hop when they have a big group then act like theyre cool because they killed one player questing by themselves. god I fucking hate streamers >>581112904sadly right
>>581112914I just enjoy killing....
Grim...
>>581112858But what if I want to have 2 pve specs and a pvp spec>>581113157>Why even have talent trees if you have have 3 specs? Hell I don't think you should even have 2Retarded opinion but not as dumb as the people who are fine with dual spec but think 3 is too much.
>>581113184thats what i say about every new retail expansion but doomers always try to be negative
>>581112180thank you for proving my point, why you frequent a general for a game you hate is beyond me.classic era is there waiting for you :)
>>581113207>kungen is racist every human is racist anon and whites have every reason to be racist in 2026
>>581113184whiners have abandoned thread and are jerking off to ai generated skyborn smut on wpsg
WOW FOREVER IS KUNGEN APPROVED
>>581112948they're probably gonna add stuff that's useful in pvp to other professions so you can viably choose something else and still have fun in pvpthe meta of everyone needing to have engineering in classic is stale and lame
>>581112714If the K of the KKK is in, I'm in.Romans up!
>>581113341it's over...
>>581113184Uuuuuuh... There's a barber shop! Don't you hate that? It lets you recustomize your character INCLUDING gender! Don't you hate that? That doesn't bother you? Clearly you must be a tranny.
>>581113351the answer is retail
>>581111936Dumbass, my second name will be Dumbass or some variation to get through the namefilters
>>581112603The world buff saver item was a good thing.I liked the Diremaul world buffs at the very least since you could go grab those almost any time. Ony/Rend/Hakkar buffs can fuck offMust suck for tanks having to max out on wbuffs every week though
>>581113243some used to way back in the day but we don't know about the new ones
>>581113207>Kungen is racist.Nice, but proof?
why do blizzard hate taurens?
>>581113084Trannies should have to pay money to genderswap for their mental illness.
>human priest gets instant cast big heal>gnome priest gets the same idea but theirs require the target to drop below a certain threshold for it to proc, so you can waste it easilygod damn it i wanted to go gnome but human version looks super bis for pve...
Nice sotlen Turtle assets retoiletsLiterally half talent tree is from TruttleGrom dungeon is from TurtleOnly reason they too afraid to add the High Elf is because Turtle did it first and they would get mock and laughed at LOLTemporary WoW will die like SoD in 3 months and you all back to OctoWoW begging me for mage dung boost
>>581113434Any form of dual spec is retail
>>581113420skytroon detected
>>581113520he married a black woman
>>581112835No.Rapist.
>>581113016Yes, please
>>581113104This is the way.It's hilarious how long you can get away with it, if they even realize it at all.
>>581112070>still not over being camped by a lone shadow priestkek what a kwab
>>581113351>But what if I want to have 2 pve specs and a pvp specThen you pay the respec tax. You dumb
Hope we can get some solid answers out of the beta when it opens. Very hard to make class decisions when you don't know how spells have been adjusted, pvp rewards, etc.
>>581112070if xaryu and pika also roll pve then idk what to say we might be cooked chat
>>581113387no
>>581113526why list the other races for horde at all
>>581113449it sucked ass getting Rend as ally
>>581112034Can fire mages go iceshards to double dip crits with ignite + crit damage on forstfire bolts?
My tankslut already picked race and class for me, sorry chudshttps://postimg.cc/gallery/Dnv3Hwx
>>581113658as always everything will be datamined to hell and back
>>581113654Dual spec is too much everyone should be forced to pay the tax if they want to change build no matter what
>>581113560time to get a real job your private server revenue is about to dry up!
>>581113543Human version doesn't work on yourself. Also Gnome Priest gets an AoE CC. Feedback is complete dogshit too.
This version of classic will also be ruined by streamers and people 'beta testing' and knowing everything before release, sorry.
>>581113658Yeah, someone just 'leaked' that warlock tanking will be a thing and its being kept a secret, we really know nothing right now
>>581113520Watch his streams, also, race mixer.
>>581113560the greenest pov
>>581113665youre not going too many tauren if any. one of the biggest draws to playing tauren was because they were the only horde that could be druids.
What class is he playing
>>581113526If you play dwarf shaman on alliance you'll have auto invite to any guild or raid. Most in demand class by a mile.
>>581113184good doesnt mean its perfect
>>581113619if I ever saw a conversation like that unfold in my guild chat I would immedately /gquit
>>581113738good, I don't trust nublizz to not fuck things up so as much information as possible is best
>>581113619rough screenshot. Diabellze seemed to want to make it a sort of cute thing but then Femboyheals wanted to go right to 'hot' and sex.Nothing wrong with sex. But there was a vibe mismatch there.
>>581113543The gnome one you can cast preemptively.
>>581112001>browns>hate GTAWhat's it like being profoundly mentally retarded?
>>581113836>it needs to be perfect for me to enjoy lol
>>581113814warlock with his former pornstar gf succubus
>>581113526Mathematically, alliance races have more class variety, which means the Alliance will end up with the most players. Dwarf shaman will also be BiS because of the racials, so horde doesn't even have that going for it.
>>581113560this poster is a pedophile btw just ask wpsg
>>581113527>micro transactions are good actuallyanon I dont want to scare you but trannies breath air so you should probably stop doing that before you turn trans too
Post more about streamers!
>>581113184they're just wpsg fucktards raging because blizz had their shitty private servers shut down. they think they can somehow kill Forever's launch by shitposting on 4chan.
>>581113016as a gay furry I need to go horde. alliance is the chud faction because they have humans. I WILL be sending all human paladins back to their inns with their hearths on cooldown
>>581113784contingency plan reads "places a holy ward on an ally" so Idk how to interpret that but if its anything like the retail version it *should* work on yourself, yeah, and that does matter. yeah the aoe cc is cool for pvp, true. and feedback is a dogshit spell i rather them just delete, agree.
>could have launched the game with a box price and got less backlash and made more money (since now all players have to pay instead of just people who want elves)So the only reason they did this was to set the precedent that they will be selling all future races, correct?
>*dances on your corpse*Now what?
>mommy tendies in the oven>basedda pop on my desk>all cosmetics bought off the shop>blue elf mageits forevering time
>>581105571whats the shard farming situation lookin like though
>>581114062Fent dance
>Natural Talent: Gain resistance to all schools of magic, increasing as your Herbalism skill rises.herbalism is meta pick now
>>581114062you can tell a real life girl made this character because she has pink hair
I'm still playing Alliance PvE
>>581114062must be AI
>>581114032best to get players used to mtx early
>>581114032>add box price AND subLess backlash and substantially less player too. I probably wouldn't even bother if this shit cost ~$70-80
>>581113665Oh yeah, it's Hordin' time
>>581114062>Sriaa Stormchildgod I am going to corpse camp the fuck out of these people
>>581113745I would be ok with dual spec, but swapping only in major cities, only because certain hybrid classes get fucked way harder by only having 1 spec and also generally suck ass at farming to pay the respec tax. Druids, pallies, shamans, priests I'm mostly talking about. Paying the respec tax just because you feel like playing in bgs is gross too.I absolutely do not want you to be able to swap specs out in the world though. It dilutes the purpose of specs too hard.
>>581105360You don't know shit about vanilla if you think the staff of dominance was anything close to his screenshot
>>581113184It's modern blizzard, we don't trust them for shitSee ret paladins avoiding their capstone talent because mana issues, elemental shamans getting fuck all mana improvements, enhance maelstorm making no sense for a 2h class, untouched specs like BM hunter etc..
>all you need is an active sub to play (15$) somehow this is an issue?
>made a hardcore character last year>played for a few weeks and got invited to some random guild>got bored and moved to anniversary cause all my friends were playing there>log into my hardcore character a few weeks ago>nobody online in the guild>guild master hasn't been online in months>see that there's still a couple of members who have been online a few days ago>claim guild leadership>/gdisband>logout
>>581113935Horse trannies think touch of the grave triggers off any (they just discovered non-dot) damage too lmao
>>581114062Holy shit is this real????
>>581113963How can they breathe with my cock down their throat?
>>581114062how did we go from alizee to whatever this is
>>581113863true but if it doesn't refund then you could easily waste a 10min cd. i guess if some bosses have telegraphed big abilities then i could see it being good yeah.
>>581113935>Dwarf shaman will also be BiS what are you smoking, 1% crit with maces is nothing10% of damage reduction is nothingyou can count beast type bosses on one handnot going blue elf for shaman is objectively wrong unless you are roleplaying
>>581114276see>>581110527
5% passive leech is busted desu, racials are going to be even more FOTM in this mode.
>>581114332because the pulp fiction dance scene is a classic
>>581113935>Dwarf shaman will also be BiS because of the racialsWhat?Dwarves have the worse racials out of all the shamans save for blueberries because poison cleansing totem exist.
>>581106959>>581107195>>581107679Be careful, Sechen Torgud is considered an untouchable annoying faggot in /xivg/ so if you show them too much positive attention they may just start up their dogshit glubposting here.
>>581114306Pserf melties
>>581114287I am assuming you didn't even bother to read talents or skills, we don't even know what kind of items there are, you're just too stupid to live sorry
>>581114372skelf can only be shaman as horde for whatever reason
>>581114390it's not 5% you moronjesus christ I swear that tooltip is a perfect IQ and ESL test.
>>581114372Blue elfs can't play Shaman on Alliance.Only Shaman on Horde will be dwarves (an unpopular race). There's going to be a massive drought of Shamans on alliance for this reason. Meanwhile Horde will have plenty due to the Skelfs being able to play them.
>>581114329When they transition they develop the ability to breathe cum its like that liquid oxygen you see in sci-fi movies sometimes.
>>581114287>Yfw they add fucking DW To shaman>It makes them top dps by just auto attacking with rock bitter weapon
>>581114372Dwarf shaman will be bis on alliance because... it's the only option.
>>581114372Dwarf is the only shaman capable alliance class dingus. Blue elf can only be shaman on hordeIt's Alliance bis by default. It's the new dwarf priest
rp will be the comfiest ruleset with the friendliest community if you are dumb enough to join any type of /vg/ guild or base your server selection on the whims of the general you get what you deserve
>>581114390>5% chance to heal 5% hpwont be noticeable crusader enchant is like 20 times stronger
>>581114560>>581114489oh... welp
>>581114453Esfand respeccd mid dungeon because he kept running out of mana every fightElementals burns through mana like crazy and they didn't get any improvementsEnhance is a little better but will run out of mana without shamanistic rage and/or water shield
I wish they only capped AoE in Dungeons/Raids. Not being able to AoE effectively for farming mobs in the world or in big world pvp/bgs feels kind of lame.
>>581114559energy ticks are cancer, tf is this guy smoking
Shamans in the pve server are going to be one of the most sought classes
>>581114559Being anti tmog is a sign of low iq
>muh high elf!!!!
>>581113814Jew pedophile, as usual
>>581114559>one of his four dislikes is changing genderUh... based?
>>581113814hes jewish. so a goblin rogue
>>581114629why are you posting here if you don't like us? I like you anon
>>581111627that wont be necessary because they wont just have a good ring only drop from one place that can be soloable
>>581114682whyd ya chop your dick off son
>>581114512It's a retoilet player check, actually.
>>581113619
>>581114559>DUDE CLASSIC UII don't get this complaint. I really fucking don't. The "retail UI" doesn't even look bad or anything. Literally just complaining to complain desu.
>>581114512surely even ESL filth can read 'UP TO'
>>581114390I just wanna know if it has a 5% proc chance on each dot tick
>>581114575After seeing the metamorphosis spellbook "leak" I think it's going to happen
>>581114560i plan as playing a fem dwarf resto shaman larping as an irl woman and getting spooned every upgrade i desire
>>581114559>dislikes barber gender changinguhhhhhh transphobic much????xaryu needs to be banned off twitch for this
>>581104773People who think that WoW Forever is going to be able to stay at 60 forever are coping hard. That is impossible in this game. It's even more impossiible when you give molten core gear that kind of stat. That thing might as well be comparable to Nax or AQ40 gear. Next year they will be making an expansion to this game and upping the level to 65 with nu-TBC. Then we will get lvl 70 with nu-WOTLK. Then we will get lvl 75 with nu-Cata followed by lvl 80 with nu-mop. They all will be rebranded for Forever but nothing will be forever because horizontal progression is a meme made up by wow theory crafters on youtube who finally played runescape 20 years after it's release. The reason why runescape keeps people engaged is lvl 99 skills take forever. I've been playing Runescape since 2001 and I've never had a lvl 99 skill. It's not worth it. You get a skill into the 90s and you are only half way. The juice is never worth the squeeze because you can build a specialized pure that takes less worth and gives you as much if not more fun than a maxed character.
>>581114735I didn't chop anything off I just tmogged it :3
>>581114648>Esfand stoped reading there, you deserve your miserable life lol don't @me won't reply
>>5811146301 in 20 proc chance is actually huge by classic standards. It is going to be appreciable.
>>581114559i thought this guy was a WoW pro, how does he have the worst takes? are mage mains just frauds?
>Ogre posters gave up
>>581114630Worse it's 5% chance to trigger on direct damage.No thorns, no dots (including consecration), no aoe, etc...It's fucking TERRIBLE. Sub 0.5% damage done.
>>581114780New ui is soul less.It would take pretty much no work for blizz to ad the classic ui anyway and you would never have to use it.Go back to the blizzard forums where you belong
>>581113017That's the thing that gets me the most about the situation. You've got retards on reddit clearing MC in 4 hours crying about how the content is too easy, then you get prenerf T5/T8 and they all just quit without even even crying that they content is too hard. So then the rest of us are stuck with these awful 15 minute fights that it's still entirely possible to wipe on even the next phase if you get particularly bad RNG. I don't think every fight should be trivial, heroic anub and LK are some of my favorite bosses, but making every fight that technical all the way down to dungeons is insane and I don't get how people still don't understand that they don't actually enjoy it.
>>581114780retail UI is an eyesore, anon
>>581114881Show me somebody else playing paladin at blizzcon, this is all we have to go by at this point
Is she playing Forever?
>>581114723has there every been a chud guild that was raid competetive and not a complete drama shitshow?
the way energy regen is might make rogue feel fun again
>>581114885thats like once every 5 mobs you will recover 5% hp
>>581114559>60 min buffsis battle shout 60 minutes now? thank god if so
>>581113016>can all the chuds go pvp hordeNigga all the streamers are going horde. If anything Alliance will be the a refuge for chuds.
>>581114810Where did you get the 5% proc chance from? your ass?Literally all you can ascertain from that tooltip is that you will have some kind of proc that will do some amount of damage, and they cap that damage at 5% of your max hp. Which implies that they are expecting you to NOT be hitting that cap regularly. Since we can assume that they aren't drooling fucking retards it's safe to conclude that the racial will provide a roughly similar dps boost to the other dps racials, i.e. it's not gonna be a fucking flat 5% dps incease.
>>581114559>energy tickswhat animal wants this back?
>>581114819It will.Hope you are ready for le funny blue class of +2k bonus ap
>>581109081I don't want to play as a fucking H*rde noshoes mudhut durotar lok'tar but no ogar FUCK at all unless I can play as my little green jersey midgets, but my friends are all H*rdefags so I'm forced to play HordeAnd I DEFINITELY don't want to play a fuckin elf.
>>581114629there will be a /vg/ guild on the rp realm
>>581114918ogreGODS don't need to shill or spam. the desire to play ogre is already in every WoW player's heart
>>581114958There is no fucking way we can know that yet. Zero chance someone was hitting a target dummy on the limited playtime demo to test this.
>>581114630>5% squaredThis comes out to 0.25% max health back per hit on averageFucking laughable
>>581114835I'm gonna make you join discord calls where you talk to me in a feminine voice and send me pictures of your feet in exchange for me helping you get gear upgrades
ogre confirmed next race now the void elf model is added to bait and contain retail players
>>581114856you're retardedturtle wow kept people engaged without even trying, you just drop a few new leveling dungeons and everyone is making alts to try them and it keeps people busy for a few months
Every frost mage talent is fucking insane, how the hell do you spec this thing?
>>581114390>your attacks have a 5% chance to leech, it can only heal you up to 5% of your max health (we're assuming it's 100% of the damage dealt)
>>5811146305% chance to heal 5% of a health pool will be very strong, not that classic 'players' know these things because they wait for streamers to make videos about it before understanding.
>>581114390UD warrior with 4k health.2 attacks per second when factoring auto attacks and abilities.5% chance to regenerate 200 hp (4k*0.05).Average 10 hp per attack.20 hp per second.100 hp5.Like wearing 6.25 Shard of the Flames.Does seem kinda busted.
>>581115112I love ticks, it creates a skill cap for rogues and casters
>>581114559how did this shitskin become the face of classic?
>>581115106It will probably work out to be less dps than the other comparable racials, since it's also a heal.Blizz could really be drooling fucking retards too though
>>581115112i like randomly getting 19 or 21 energy. it makes my rotation feel fresh
>>581114984>>581115023I guess what do you guys dislike about it? All I hear is buzzwords.
>>581114559>legacy system talent point at level 5Which one?
>>581115249No it doesn't, it just makes the game worse.
>>581115060I can tell by the shoes he owns that that's a man
>>581115249cancerous micromanagement bullshit like that doesn't belong and should be removed.
>>581115278asmon left
>>581114958The biggest problem is that with no wbuffs and presumably rebalanced consumes, it won't be possible to stack enough hp on a dps to make it do useful damage, and with no dual wielding or even devastate for tanks, you won't get enough chances to proc it.
>>581115106Here you go. Fresh from my anus.
>>581115278Just stuck with it through thick and thin, same way Taliesin won the retail war.
>>581115194Turtle was f2p and had hardcore mixed with actual players so the world felt more alive. But no one is going to pay 15 dollars to go run a new level 30 dungeon lmao.
>>581114559he's so sexy in a brown way
>>581115085no, but it does have built in booming voice duration
>>581114856>>581111176
>>581114918Outting yourself as a pedo tranny furfaggot, grim retoilet
>>581115154Yeah, sorry man, I forgot it's a new ability, not used anywhere before. 100% new for wowf.Don't look up retail racials btw.
>>581115112I like ticks because it adds an element of timing to your openers, even in pve.It makes cat druid at least a bit more interesting to level with notably
>>581115181>heal yourself for 80 damage per hit AND do 80 extra damage per hit for free at 60 with dogshit gearsounds fucking amazing to me
>>581115197I want em fuckin ALLBut the spec anon linked last thread is probably the best >>581100863
>>581115413everyone already paid 90 dollars lil bro
>>581115278he stuck around hardcore and scooped up all the retarded dad gamers who jerk off about the experience after onlyfags died
>>581111936they restrict titles as names, you can't do this shitsee sodapoppin stream where he attempts to name a character Queen X and gets told Queen is a restricted name
>>581115324it looks ugly and dumbed down for brown people
>>581115219only a rogue or fury warrior is going to gain any meaningful benefit from thismages and paladins hit once every 3 second, thats going to make it one proc every minute of combat
>>581115194I don't play turtlewow and neither did asmongold so I don't know why you post him. He never played private servers. He trashed private servers for years and always was a retail player. In vanilla, he didn't even raid anything he was so bad. Furthermore, you make zero argument for why progression will work in Forever. It's not possible in this game. Blizzard has to make a new game and they have to remove levels for it to be forever.
Hyjal HR/SR run, ultra mega bis chase str trinket HR, need at least 5 items with % elemental damage on them, PST spec and ilvl
>>581115480you are going to be bigly disappointed by the internal cd
>entire blizzcon focus was on undead paladinslol
>enhance doesn't get dual-wield>have to rely on shitty 20% wf procs with 2h>ele will be garbage to level with due to no mana talents until 46+Shaman is so disappointing. Hope they change majority of talents
>retards not realizing how good touch of the grave will be on bosses
>>581115248Undead warrior, rogue will be busted.
>>581115380It's possible new profession items could fill those voids at least partially
>>581115382not him but without knowing the ICD it's literally trash
>>581115448You can see here >>581115382 that it works completely different from the retail version, retard.
>>581111936i will name my char Obi Wan
>>581115278normie friendly because hes attractive and not a slob like asmon and ambigious race but white enough so hes relatable to turd worlders and westerners
>>581115634it doesnt help with healing so why should i care
>>581115345>>581115370for a bad player difficulty makes the game less enjoyableyou two just want to spam your buttons mindlessly while good players like myself want to be constantly thinking about ability priority and timings
>>581115126>>Hope you are ready for le funny blue class of +2k bonus applease elaborateIt's that from rockbitter? Wouldn't WF/RB be better?
>>581111278LFM SM SPELLCLEAVE PST
>>581115194I think it is better if they do not have to focus on a "new" leveling experience every 2-3 years and all your old gear gets fucking outclassed by greens after 3 levels, rather some new raids and dungeons and mounts and maybe later add pets and other cosmetics
Horde:Unpleasant, anti-social parse brainsBullied manchildren who still think Undead Rogue is cool and will get you and your friends banned for spamming slursTeenagers who want to be the villainsActual third worlders who feel a sense of home around the mudhuts in OrgrimmarAlliance:Normal people who play the game for fun and communityChill adults who want to be the heroes and have matured out of the edge phaseFaggot ass gnomes being cunts but still not nearly as bad as undead niggers or feral pussiesTranny ERP'ersThe choice should be obvious
>>5811154876% damage over 15% chance to freeze when we have ice lance?
>>581115634????
>kungen is spending 8+ hours every day reading talents and wowhead articles while stalling for betahow does he do it holy
>>581115536what is arcane explosion? what is consecration?you stupid fucking ape
>>581115197BiS mage build for AoE farming/PvE
>>5811158346% damage is fucking gigantic, are you crazy? 2% flat damage per point is one of the highest value talents in the game for any spec.
>>581103542The issue is we need a class that is unique while also not being any of the shit in retail. To this day I still say the original design of the death knights was absolute fucking kino. Nothing compares to original frost, unholy, and blood death knights. Also I'd argue they double down on the class fantasy and go with the original idea of a paladin that converts into a death knight
>>581115743>>581115875It's a drain, you drain HP from the mob to heal yourself. It does damage up to 5% of your max health.
>>581115754>timingsHere in reality, you're just waiting for energy to tick back so you can spam your one button again.
>>581115063you had to be there(albeit it was a stroke of luck, because the raid released out of nowhere and we had gear good enough to clear it before anyone else, theres no way such thing will happen in forever)
theres niggas out there who think shaman tank is viable lol
>>581115194blizzard just has to realize that everybody pays 15 bucks, they are better off keeping 2 casuals engaged than 1 turbo autist that screams for new content every week
>>581114372>1% crit with maces is nothing>10% of damage reduction is nothing>all sky elves get is 1% hasteMust be rough looking at average racials once you're used to noshoes
>>581115487Why no Frostbite? It's soo good for pvp
>>581115889>what is aoe cap at 4
>>581115612it's a better, free and permanent lifesteal enchant on every weapon you have and it also works on spells. It does damage, it heals, it scales, it's one of the best racials even if it would have a 1 proc per minute cap
>every single tier would have at minimum one 10-player option and one 20-player option, in addition to (sometimes) a 40-person raidbased10 man is the best raid format by a large margin
>>581115921>PvE>being a frost sissyhomosexual behaviour
>>581115947thats why partially why wotlk was so goodnot only it tied story to a fallen hero turned undead but also their abilities made sense within context of the game and lorethe problem was they were so fucking overpowered for longest time
>>581115971you are pooling your energy and depending how much you have you either have to spend it early or not depending how much you are going to over cap or notyou have zero idea what it takes to be a top parsing rogue in classic wow
>>581115693>https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=5227/touch-of-the-grave>Heeerd namnvees different so tard no sameeeehYour brain? My toilet.Your mouth? My urinal.You? My low IQ cuck slave.Can't wait for you to be my PERMANENT dogeza cuckold nonny as soon as the beta releases LoL
>>581115557I see them adding raid specific bonuses to loot. Like drops from the Barrow dens will increase damage while in the barrow dens so you get the progression aspect of raids without needing to increase ilevel. All raids at 60 will drop the same ilevel loot and raids will be tuned so you need a good chunk of the items from that raid to handle the last few bosses. Out in the world and PvP you just run whatever you think is best or fun. Pretty much solves the problem with no effort.
>>581116042because you need imp cs and are lack the points to get it.
>>581115990>slowfall or>free bandage that also recovers mana>5% elemental damage in a game where the main raid enemy is all elementalsblue elf is GOAT
>>581115625>he actually wants dual-wield on an enhGet better taste
>>581115248>it's like having 6 of a notoriously worthless item
>>581111665citation needed
which jewtuber gives a good overview of the changes? im not watching blizzard nigger yap for 6 hours.
>>581116180>thinking about sissies and bringing them up out of his own for no apparent reasonSuspicious as fuck.
>>581115248Fucking useless in pve were you get healed to full in 1 spell castIn pvp most fights end in a 10seconds at bestIt's BIS together with cannibalize for grinding though
muh hecking touch of the grave!(1 proc per minute cap)these classic dads never played the game
>>581115776Wf totem isn't an imbue any more : )
>>581115938But freezing someone for 5 seconds is really good
>>581114682Pro-tmog is tryhard minmax mentality. If you want to look better, suck it up and use the less optimal gear. It's not like the game demands perfection.
>>581116241>top parsing rogue in classic wowYeah bro, spamming sinister strike and eviscerate is real high IQ.
>>581115324Everything is too flat and untextured, like Xperl developer brainwashed the UI team
>>581116240Are there any original warcraft classes that weren't pulled into wow? For warcraft I veterans
>>581116068mage is capped at 8, consecration is uncappedyou don't know if undead racial has an icddon't reply anymore
>>581115625the far side wont take you far at all with this attitude
Touch of the Grave is so unfathomably shit that I'm loling my ass off at people trying to cope that it's good.
SkinningSkinning Beasts of the Wild Beasts of the Wild Damage to Beasts and Dragonkin increased by 5%
>>5811156915% chance means no ICD. Abilities with ICDs always have like 40+% proc chances.
>>581116374I don't like sodapoppin because he's a yawnfest boring guy with no personnality, but once he got access to the beta the first thing he did was spent hours reading every single new talents, respect to him for that
>>5811164306% flat damage is better, and random procs like that are unreliable enough that you have to know how to fight without them regardless, especially with a proc chance as low as 15%.
I want to play undead for real for the first time even though I've been playing since vanilla I never really played a forsaken character for more than like 20 minutes.Their racials better be good in pvp.
>>581116242>links spell worded nothing like the new touch of the gravelol retard btfo
>>581116296What bandage?Walk on AirInstant, 2 min cooldown. Glide downward through the air for 10 sec while controlling your direction of travel. Skysight0.5 sec cast, 2 min cooldown. Draw power from a convergence of elements: +10% movement and mounted speed for 30 sec, or 15 min if a convergence is nearby.
>>581115889>She thinks it triggers off dotsXDddDNonnies itt are so cute, born to be toilets, IQ too low for anything but eating shit loooool
>>581116462dragondildoshapers werent probably in old warcraft
>>581116374soda or esfand are doing individual videos for talents so you can see their brain dead retarded takes
>>581116458hey dont forget slice and dice!
>>581114372>1% crit with maces is nothing1% is literally fucking insane. that could push you to the crit cap and free up an entire item slot for something else>10% of damage reduction is nothinguhhhh, are you serious?>you can count beast type bosses on one handwe don't know what mobs they will be adding so you cant say that for sure
>>581116489If it procs off dots and drains it's maybe decent for warlocks
>>581115382It does say UP TO 5% max health.So it could be 0.0001% of max health for all we know.
>xhe doesn't know about PPM system from nu-wowmove over grandpa, this isnt the classic you think of
>>581116659>>581116462Tinkers and Necros are the only ones I can think of. Necro would have to easily dip into summons for its rotation but tinker could be fun
>>581116751it just means it depends of cast / weapon speed
>>581116454Why would you post something you don't even believe yourself
>>581113907>Mia Malkovadamn, she's draining him ingame and irl
>>581115382one of my 4fun alts will be an undead duel wield fury war with lifesteal enchants
>>581116539source?
>melee cucks will literally never ever recover from pic relatedtotally pathetic.
>>581116828Don't bother, turdbrain anon is retarded
>>581116828People DO know about the PPM system which is why they are pointing out the new touch of the grave potentially DOESN'T have it. Typically anything with PPM doesn't directly list it's proc chance in the tooltip. No other version of touch of the grave has ever listed it's proc chance.
>>581112815They ban super fast for name violation reports it's like they specifically have GMs who look at name reports all day, sadly.>>581113319High chance it works like retail war mode where you can only change it in a major city.I know a lot of little faggot losers hate turtle I preferred their approach with a warmode incentive + no phasing/layering so you could still real time high traffic pvp or watch it while playing alts
>>581113814Is this the OTK nigga that got cancelled?
>>581116962What happened to the Horde that its obsessed with cucking?
crazy how nobody seem to care about retail-
Think they're going to put in the warlock summon closet like they had in SoD/WotLK? Pretty clear they're not getting rid of shards in forever.Make warlock less fucking micro managing work!!!
>>581117073Not a nigga, this one is a kikka
Does anyone have the webm of that French streamsniper who duelled Ziqo on HC with full world buffs?It makes me laugh every time I see his face.
>>581117007>Retoilet touch of the grave has different values, PPM and ICD>BUT THIS ONE WONT AND OT WILL TRIGGER OFF EVERYTHING WITH NO ICD BECAUSE...>IT JUST WILL!!!Your brain matter is called brown matter lmao.It will be dogshit, sub 0.5% dps, sub 10hps.
>>581116962I thought the Horde was supposed to be a proud people? How the fuck do they go through with this humiliation ritual?Alliancechads would never kneel btw. Ever.
>>581113871>top GTA streamersall white>top GTA youtubersall white>majority of people seen in GTA related footagewhite??????
>>581116462Tinker, Bard, Cultist, Stormbringer, Pyromancer, Venomancer, Templar, Chronomancer, Necromancer, Guardian, Barbarian, Ranger, Knight of Xoroth, Felsworn, Bloodmage, Primalist, Witch Doctor, Runemaster, Sun Cleric, Starcaller, Witch Hunter, Reaper, Blade Master,
>>581117073yeah but he’s back and nobody gives a fuck. doing content with asmongold etc.
>>581117240do not go to goldshire at 1am
>>581116962we have to stop shaman they're too powerful
Touch of the Grave will be good and I'm sorry you're too retarded to see it.
>>581116962>no shieldHe'll die first in every fucking fight, better hope he drops WF totem in time for that sweet 10second buff uptime
>>581116962Will this happen if I play Shaman too?
>>581117227We have versions of retail racials that work differently in Forever yet you are obsessed with thinking Touch works exactly the same for some reason?
>>581117331they should make a private server with those classes
>>581115382as it reads it lifesteals 100% of the damage instance, 5% of the time. So assuming you aren't doing big chunks of damage, it's literally 5% leech. Which is probably really good in pvp especially when you can multidot but trash in pve when all you care about is damage, might be ok on tanks I guess. Also completely useless for healers which is weird.
>>581117331>>581117473they did, it's dead
>>581117473this, and include a heckin awesome cash shop
you have porn addiction
>>581115921Frostbite can destroy your grouping. You also lose out on a lot of dmg not going ice shards assuming blizzard is able to crit, which is likely as all dots get crits.
>>581115487That's the worst build I've ever seen.Frostbite is one of the best talents in frost.4% hit is too much for pvp. 3% needed, less if you have gear with hit.Arctic reach is also 100% required. There's almost nothing better than extra range.Winter's chill is one of the worst talents in frost (and it's worse than in classic). Piercing ice is relatively weak.1/3 imp blizzard is good.
>>581117410>5% of target's max health as damage>20 forsaken raid will kill ragnaros in about 20 seconds topI don't see why this isn't controversial
>>581113871>>581117284mean while in World of Warcraft>top paladin streameresfat - brown>deemed "Face of WoW" by normies and gay anonsXargay - brown>top pvp WoW streamerPikaboo - brown
>>581115921>aoe farming>picks the random freeze talentfucking retard
>>581117598>Piercing ice is relatively weak.clueless
>>581117602Because your average player doesn't have the same max HP as Ragnaros.
>>581117602It heals for up to 5% of YOUR health, not the bosses.
>>581116915I pvp'd on my mage with fashion gear.
BROWN ALERT!!
>Frost Mage is one of the most broken specs in classic>"Let's buff it"What the FUCK were they thinking????
Why yes, I'm a bear tank, how can you tell?
>>581117598>Winter's chill is one of the worst talents in frostwhy?
>>581117830They raped the aoe slow blizzard talent.
>>581117892Based. I hope there's more niche high armor leather items to pump the bear armor up
>>581117830Containment spec for parsetrannies
>>581117462yesshaman on horde is instant invite to any group
>>581117602why do people think it does damage?
>>581117830There's a few things that will stop it from dominating nowGnomes have retail escape artist which not only breaks roots and snares but gives you a mini blessing of freedom type buff for a few secons afterwardWarriors now get in-combat chargeand forever uses the retail DR system so you no longer get poly'd for 30 years
>alliance bvlls>palachads buff their compatriots without asking>hordecuckies>onions browns beg their shaman masters to give them a crumb of WF totemSAD!
>>581106112> Im so bad at the game I dont know how to do anything but press flash I was 2nd on dps meters from 13 to 60 and in every endgame dungeon healing as holy priest. Wake up Lil gup, theres more to game than you think
>>581117830frostchads stay winning>*cocs your face*>*novas*>*blinks away*>/laughs>*ice lances you to death*
>be dwarf shaman >have female elven lips on my cock instead of male orc lips
>>581116962I just wanted to play shaman because I am lazy and though putting some sticks in the ground and throwing out a heal every now and then would be comfy.... I did not sign up for this melee cringe
NEW BREAD
should i roll skyborn do they have good racvials?
>>581117462Idk about classic but Shamans are fucking VIPs in TBC, at least on ally.People BEGGED for Enh/Resto Shams in all forms of content from PvP to Raids, even if you had dogshit gear, because totems are just that valuable
>>581118074>Warriors now get in-combat chargePlease tell me you're not lying about this.Base charge can be used in combat? For real?
>>581117892It's easy to tell because you're a turbo homo.
>>581118074>Warriors now get in-combat chargeyou sure about that?
>>581118184>>581118184>>581118184>>581118184
r1 frostbolt for free arcane missile procs
>>581117892You're big and strong and hairy in all the right place and high on stamina.
>>581118084Doesn't both sides get both classes now?I imagine a undead paladin who isn't retarded, and a dwarf shaman who plays well will get perma 24/7 invites.Might be a bit more difficult with undead because so many low value men are going to roll undead paladins and muddy up the population but I most dwarf shamans will be high skill chads.
>>581118074>Warriors now get in-combat chargeso warriors get 2 intercepts now?
>>581118198depends on faction because they have different racials
>>581117602illiterate esl retard
>>581118035Unless you are elemental shaman. Then its just a probably invite.
>>581107698male tauuren druid, just like in vanilla all the way up to midnight, just like in classic, just like in sod,
>>581117463Yeah bro they are totally going to leave it without IC and trigger off everything.No precedent of them doing this, but they will for this.
>>581118054> drain health "Does it do damage?" You are retarded
>>581110258I'm literally making a Dwarf/Gnome only guild.
>>581118682yes the damage you are already doing drains health...
>>581116713>1% is literally fucking insaneparse troon brains are just mush at this point
>>581110258Two characters on my planned roster are Gnomes.One is a Pink Bearded Frost Mage who is busy with research.One is a Greedy Black Bearded Demonology Warlock who focuses on Money Schemes and got his powers by dealing with a Sky Elf Male Illuminati type figure ( another character on my list ).
>>5811179921) Frost has too many good talents2) The crucial part of frost is control. If you can't control your target, you can't damage him.In fact, the second point is so important that you usually go 17 points into arcane simply for a single talent, improved counterspell, and to get that you spend>2 points for 10 spell pen, actually not bad considering the lack of spell pen on gear>3 points in arcane hit or imp arcane missiles. Almost completely wasted>5 points in clearcasting. Objectively worse than frost channeling by a large margin.>5 points in a mix of arcane resilience, imp ae, magic attunement, magic absorption. All relatively weak.Winter's chill is just some damage. The fact that it's debuff fodder makes it a bit more useful, but unless you forgo imp counterspell, you don't have the points for it. Now in forever winter's chill only applies to frostbolt and ice lance so you even lose the CoC benefit.
>>581119570>Winter's chill is just some damage.It isn't though. The damage is totally secondary, the point of winter's chill in pvp is dispel protection. You won't have much control when your slows get instantly purged every single time in one global.
>>581119743I did mention as well. It's also faction dependent. If you play horde, its value rises because you're playing against both priests and paladins. As alliance, the only class dispelling your shit is priest. Now the problem is that with imp counterspell you have about 4 free points in frost, 5 if you can get 3% hit from your gear, which requires some sacrifices in earlier phases. These need to be distributed among piercing ice, frost channeling, improved coc and winter's chill.
>>581112948other guys are forgetting that engi will also get new shit.keep up engi bro
when they release Tinkerer Class ( Probably along with Goblin )I'm going to have to make a Gnome Tinkerer and a Goblin Tinkerer.
>>581118245>>581118324yes it's on the first tier set
>>581107289I have never been more serious about anything in my life: get injured, create the injury if you have to, get medically processed out. The hold over units will suck but stick with it. You will still be considered honorable and a "veteran". You can get VA disability and just cry that you got raped and the drill sergeants did nothing about it/encouraged it and you have ptsd now. You could get 100% rating 4 grand a month. I know a guy who never finished basic, never deployed, and got exactly that. Meanwhile I got in firefights, am scared of loud noises 20 years later, have a bad back and my pecker doesn't work (half of which is because I'm an alcoholic). I promise you, the zog machine and whichever middle east forever war we are in for israel this decade is not worth wasting your life on. >t. oef combat vet
>>581105938retail is probably better for you sister
