Patch Soon Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>581052840
YOSHI SPEAKSBALANCE PATCH SOONCONTENT UPDATE BEFORE ITEM UPDATENO MENTION OF DELAY
BUFF SILVER NOW
>YOSHI SPEAKS>*retarded bullshit*>”it’s delayed”not sure about this guy
>>581149527>“we’re delaying working on the thing that’s delayed so we can work on the other thing that’s delayed”asshole needs speaking lessons
Notice how it's never any good news when yoshi talks. Dead game.
>>>/wsg/6232842
no other character in the game gets away with building non-damage items and being unkillable and also having bullshit levels of damage the same way shiv does due to his kit being overtuned>inb4 b-b-b-b-b-but he's low tier and awful and terrible
dead and abandoned lock
i remember when things were looking hopeful and everyone thought we'd be getting updates more often
remove bebop from the game entirely
>>581150091update from late 2025 and you're crying why?I started TF2 in 2018. I've never known a single major update.
>the doomers last cry before we get content kino againKekarooooo
>>581150218tf2 has always been dogshit purposemade for faggots so your point is irrelevant
At this point I hope the update is dogshit so I can uninstall this game and forget about it
Why are you faggots so miserable?
I have faith
>>581150395cause we didn't had a good update since 2024 literally fuck this gay ass game
>>581150218You're comparing a game that was finished a decade+ prior to a game in active development.Why is the average poster in these threads so fucking retarded?
>>581150246I’m just pointing out how Yoshi yapping in the Discord may not be a good idea at large. The guy does not understand what to say and he makes good news sound like bad news.
>>581150684desu the shitcord is just a mistake all aroundtheres a reason no other valve game got one
>Queue deadlock>Somebody's hacking and ruins the match>Queue again>Multiple people are hacking and ruining the match>Queue again>Somebody leaves and the match is cancelledAn hour has already passed>Queue again, long queue>Match is utterly imbalanced we stomp the other team who are practically AFK>Queue again>It's a regular match of deadlock2h30min have passed and 1 normal match of deadlock was played. Valve is a really great studio.
I love requesting the entire team to switch with me because my lane matchup is shit and nobody does and then I go 0-6
>>581149215I love my hetero sexual wolf-wife>>581149597Wow i guess us Mo mains really are all the same.
>watch streamer boot up deadlock after a long time>while waiting in the 5+ minute queue he remembers just how shit the game is>quits mid queue without playing
>nearly the entire playerbase are now using cheats
Does the item.update not count as content
#SaveDeadlock
>>581151339
>Be Valve developer>Sit on your ass all day working from home>Use a mouse jiggler to look active online>Make one small code change a day>Decide you don't like yesterdays change>Slightly tweak what you did yesterday>Repeat until Deadlock releases in 2030>ProfitKill all valve devs
I've avoided buying reverb on paradox but I'm going to force it this gamejust seems like a waste to bee honest but I guess I'll see
Shame.This past month seeing ecelebs and "pros" seething was hilarious.
>>581150091>wow these updates are getting bigger and coming faster we might get open beta this year
>>581151564I would do this. Gabe is rich enough, fuck valve.
>>581119049Animating tails is hard
>>581149597lower the fucking gametimes yoshi>hurrur it’s le hardcore gameno it fucking isn’t hardcore would be understanding ideal moba gametime is 20-30 minutes for funmaxxing and anything beyond that is fucking CBT>buh dota 2 has long gametimes too!!!wow it’s almost like yoshi and icefrog are the same person and dota 2 has been losing to LoL for 10 years
>No content in months>Announce 3 part update>1st part MM/rank is shit>2nd and 3rd are delayed because they don't do anything at valve>Announce item update is cancelled to bring the big content update faster>Took them weeks if not months to (What I am assuming) address the Merc mag/spiritual overflow, egg, hero balance issue with this upcoming patchThis is genuinely my last chance with them. If we ever get another patch/meta as bad if not worse than the current one, I am uninstalling for good. I'll figure out how to block connections to the deadlock servers or something.
>>581152258https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2pEwjSNZQHigh game times is a genuine skill issueDeadlock doesn't even have buybacks
>>581152258fun fact why we have 40+ minutes is because yes most if not all games endced in 35 minutes tops. anything above that was trolling before the changes. they couldnt get meaningful data since no one ran past 35 min the "natural" way yoshi invisioned, he just made changes so no matter what anything happends early or mid game that youre just forced to build into a 40 minunte game or just straightg up lose
Flopping tranny deadcock.
m1ggers run this game
nerf parrying
>>581153001nerf THIS
top players of deadcock:1. trans2. indians3. ???
>>5811532023.anon
>>581149891but shiv players told me he's underpowered :(Ignore how literally every Shiv player I see has the on fire portrait.
>>581152608>fun fact>posts complete bullshitvalvedrones are buckbroken, lmao.
fucking faggot warden who always has his ult with insane inescapable range
>>581153128>fighting game mc>scorpian
>>581152564MM update was amazing though? Literally noone except contrarians think it was shit
>>581153304im in group 1 already:3
>>581153351you prob think silver, graves, celeste and door man are op
>>581153402>character literally says if you face him you will die>people still face him and complain when they dieretard
>>581153462The mm is much better but it's overshadowed by the huge content drought so it feels bad
>>581153462It's the same shit as before, the only good part was splitting the queues so standard is the for fun mode.
>>581153403i dont play mortal kombat, its trash
>enemy team has victor, warden and dynamo (gun)>we losewow so unexpected
>>581153524you think the devs intentionally made the game dogshit for months to collect data while they work on the secret playtest version and you presented it as a fact.You are the biggest retard ITT
>>581153202>[HEADCANON]meds. now.
>>581153824youre more delusional than you make me out to be
>>581153462>MM update was amazing though?yes it's amazingly bad
warden's kit is made to be extremely unfun to play against
>>581153524Doorman is op simply because he can still send people to inescapable shadow realm if you know where to put your doors. He is simply impossible to balance because it's enterietly possible for him to suck ass in normal play but still be absolute Hitler if you know how to abuse him.Celeste and Graves are stupid because they play on autopilot but that's not a balance issue
>>581153971>no u
>>581154068brown zoomer hands typed this
>>581152604>buhbuhbuh it isn’t like that in le eternusthen eternus games should take 15 minutes
seriously they need to just remove dynamo from the gameretarded nigger character with not even a single salvageable quality
>>581154197Am I supposed to know who this eceleb is? It's weird that you call people zoomers but then post quotes from Twitch streamers.
>>581154068>remove tunnels only used by three characters wow that was really complicated
>>581153771not my problem you're a retard lmao
>it's a "your forever farming seven refuses to use his ult" episode.this episode's twist? he rushed indom instead of unstoppable
>>581153480im in your ass already
>>581154353ohh nooooo
>>581154346mongloid zoomer hands typed this
>>581153813i actually think i did well this game but there's just no damage characters on my team
>>581154348What the hell are you talking about bot?>>581154353>You're a retard for not playing a shit game (not deadlock, Mortal kombat)
>>581154573>>581153771>>581153403MK9 was a good fighting game. of course, NRS dumps it for some reason
>>581154571>Drifter Abrams & bebop but no damage???
>>581154573you're a retard for larping as a fg player in a deadlock thread without knowing fighting games
>>581155040name your game
>>581154998abrams isn't a damage hero unless you're smurfingbebop is feast or famine
is this the perfect grey talon build?
>deadlock will never have a hero as cool as imperius in HoTS
>>581154573Retard ESL, getting put in the tunnels is the problem with Doorman, not anything else. If you remove the tunnels you don't have the problem any more, and since only three characters use them (mokrill calico rem) then we can remove them without much issue, which is a conclusion you would come to if your IQ wasn't below 90. But it is, because you're retarded, retard. You don't even play fighting games retard, I bet you think smash is one.
at least we objectively beat 2XKO
>>581155771it was doa
>>581155581How am I a retard esl for not equating what the prior post was talking about with tunnels? Smash IS a fighting game btw
>>581155828a win is a win
>30 min into game>check enemy items>overflow merc mag overflow merc mag overflow merc mag >dynamo has cheat death, unstoppable, indom, refresheryoshi, just shut it down
>>581155580HotS has incredibly cool designs but I dunno if shit like Cho'gall could ever exist in another game.
>>581155917>How am I a retard eslretarded>not equating what the prior post was talking about with tunnelsalso retarded>Smash IS a fighting gameclinically retarded, not just internet-insult retardedtl;dr u retarded and I don't talk to retards to you're done
>playing grey niggerTalon might legitimately be the most boosted hero in the game.
>>581154381Indom is better than unstoppable
>>581153480why are you like that
>>581156210dont summon the weird brigade of autists that believe it can work in deadlock or any other game just let this stupid shit die
>begging for league and hots clones in deadlockYou are getting dota reskins and paladins rip offs.
>>581156228You're the real retard for falling for my bait
>>581156228actual schizo
>>581156303enjoy your cookie cutter designs I guess
Buff batrider and add in Slardar
>>581155171every week i wake up and think yts can't be more degenerate but i see shit like this and question if there truly is a god and if so why is he evil
>>581156437
>>581151390if it's just reworking items and shit, no
>>581156426>paladins rip offsAndroxus when? I'll show these deadlock sissies a real 70% winrate character
>>581154029Movement trannies are the ones who get the most upset when they are CC'd though, it's why Dispel Magic has been untouched.>>581150091Of these characters, only Billy and MAYBE Drifter were good additions.>MinaOverpowered as fuck and obnoxious to play against because she gets 3 get out of jail free teleports that also disjoint anything targeting her>PaigeBraindead support for foids>DoormanBuggy mess of a character who will never be balanced because doors are OP, obnoxious to play against.>VictorBraindead and overpowered.
>another game with warden snowballing uncontrollably against mefuck yoshi
>>581155171viscous isn't enough of an ugly bastard make it abrams
>movement schizo
>>581157142thats why you should be the warden player
RELEASE HOODWINK
>>581157330She will save deadlock
>>581157275meta slaves are subhuman
>>581155771>at least we objectively beat 2XKO>weyou didn't beat anyone valvedrone
>longest wait time for a big update so far>development has been so slow that they had to halt the item update just to get the content update out since the community is eating itself alive>meta so bad that not only regular players but streamers are quitting until the update comes out>every patch has made the game worse>they are now wasting more time by shitting out a new balance patch to introduce a new set of problems that will most likely be exacerbated when the content update releases>50% of the content update will be focused toward risk of rain 3>icefrog is brownts so cooked bruh ong
Warden is so fun. I love raping characters that would be unkillable if I was playing anyone else.
>>581157476Uh oh riot nigger melty
If the content update is a pve mode I will uninstall forever
>>581142869>>581144021>>581143334Did you really spend 500 bucks on this subhuman NTR artist? It took me like 10 seconds to create this didn't even bother with upscalers or prompthttps://files.catbox.moe/1pmjph.png
>>581153128>Sol Irrevelantguy>Anywhere close to the level of fucking ScorpionI know Strive fans are retarded but they can't be that retarded
>>581157496DOTA devs went back to DOTA after it became obvious that Deadlock would never surpass it
>>581157496I mean did the last literal YEAR of bad patches not inform you of this?
>>581157850I agree but literally no one plays MK outside of America.Maybe 20-30 years ago, but no one gives a shit about MK now.
>>581157782Stop giving retards attention retard.
>graves upskirt void still thereIs the content patch going to fix this?
i WILL get out of ratlow!
>>581156796
>>581157432She would actually be a fun transfer. How would she work in a city with no trees
>skirt schizo is back>>581158097Macro will get you further than aim
>>581157782nta, but looks terriblesome gooners have taste bro
>>581158097Get out of aimlabs and just play a gun character. Aim training is a meme.
>>581158201retard
>>581158097are you playing on a laptop pad
>>581158097
>>581158176Acorn shot can spawn treesBushwhack only stuns if there's a tree in the aoe, slows or something if there isn'tScurry increases movespeed and acceleration and lets you run on wall or somethingGun shoots slower than Silver's
>>581158201>Macro will get you further than aimhe thinks deadlock has macro, lmao
>>581158440>oops haha guess your walker died for freeOf course it does, moron. Kill yourself, ratstucker
>>581157209but viscous can shapeshift into tentacles and violate her mouth, pussy, and ass at the same time
>>581158502Deadlock really does not have macro anymore, it's just 'take rift and then take a walker or midboss for free'
>>581158282I guess i am not really into rimming also i don't wanna bother wasting 5 - 10 minutes for a retard who spent 500 bucks on an artist so i had to whip up something fast
>>581158502More macro compared to Overwatch/Rivals, painfully simple compared to League or DOTA.There are people in Ascendant and Eternus with brick-level-macro for a reason. That's just the kind of game this is.
>>581150091i've been telling you niggas for 2 years agothe first "release" was the best it was ever going to get. valve is notorious for getting slower and slower with update releases as times goes forward, not the other way around.
>>581151580>easily mvpthis item is n-v-t-s nutsmaybeI was doing rather well even before I got it and it only did 8% of my damage (4.8k/58k) after buying it about 18-20 minutes before game end (~24mins/~42mins)lifesteal didn't seem to function at all, or at least it's not listed in the endgame sheetsall in all seems like it's not really worth saving up for but if I have 6k laying around it's a decent buy, but I'll probably go out of my way for it a few more times just to really test it out
>>581158605deadlock "macro" be like>push wave>farm backwards>rift up, do we have a compatible draft? y/nbro its so deep only albert epstein could understand it
>>581158605if deadlock doesn't have macro anymore then why do I constantly get teammates that are dogshit at it? checkmate!
finally made itwhat should I expect
>>581159224>match id
>>581159338work for it
>>581159446
>>581158097>needing good aim to play deadlocklike 90% of the cast doesn't need to aim for shit
>>581158564some bastards are for one and dones and others are for stealingit looks like they're in a relationship, it'd be silly if she was actually dating gelatin but not so much if she was ambushed
>>581156282not when they have double knockdown and their lash knows his ult can stun the seven ult
>>581158097this shit is useless and the "aim community" is fucking retarded>fight 5 people at once>die like a retard>instead of thinking "maybe my approach here was wrong" it turns into "well if my aim was better i could've killed all 5 without them even being able to react"every single thing one can improve be it team communication, positioning, (in the case of deadlock) counterbuying etc is NOT important and just your aim matters, it's not surprising that most of them end up quitting fps games (with many different copes on why) and stick to kovaaks as their "main" "game"
>>581160782ok explain how to counterbuy merc mag warden. ill wait.
>>581160898Vortex Web, Echo Shard on stoneform
>>581160898
>>581161004how do i buy stoneform on mina again?
>>581160898Gang rape ft Mo+Krill
blud really posted disarming hex as a "counterbuy"
>>581161256i wonder why dlns people dont have 4+ people just buy disarm hex and rape the enemy carry. seem like a good price to pay to disable the enemy carry for an entire teamfight
>>581160898>moves the goalpost
Hmm...It seems the enemy seven missed his ball like the drooling retard that he is...I (your ""teammate"" viscous) shall punch you directly along it's path! No need to thank me.
>>581161256*Dispels*
>>581161872*phantom strikes u after the dispel*
who wants to see a poo fist saars
>>581154381I died and was spectating my seven (gun build) he missed all his shots, threw a ball and got two kills and he will definitely think that his gun build is insane
>>581161381You can't directly, you have to buy Ring of Repick and pick a good hero instead (Ivy)
>>581160782You only say this because you don't know what true bad aim is like, imagine a Vindicta that can't hit anything whenever she is in the air because that was me when I started playing the game and I was useless every game despite my great macro from years of playing MOBAs.
>>581161962it's impressive how yoshi chose color coded damage profiles to communicate how damage works and the average player still fucks it up
when do the bikini skins come out
>>581162242cheat enabled only
>>581161256>Disarming hex in a meta where Dispel Magic is in 100% of games on nearly 100% of characters
>>581162446forcing out a dispel for 3.2 or 1.6 (slowing) is good value thoughever
>>581162242Right after the Geist bunnysuit skin
>>581162446>nooo its useless because someone on my team or myself also didnt bait the dispell!! no other character or item can do this!!!!
>>581161256yeah it's not like warden has a 40% fucking debuff resist built-inand debuff reducer is commonly builtso even if you can't/won't dispel magic the disarm it does nothing
We need a t4 upgrade for enhancers emblem
>>581161421>6 people jump him>NEVER SHOW FEAR, NO MATTER THE ODDS>goes out with at least one kill
>>581162831we need t4 for spirit res
>>581162901your spell breaker?
>>581162883>Welcome to the Baroness.
>>581162901you have spell breaker AND witchmail
Why does mokrill get 80% resistances for free?
>>581163164its 2 creatures so they add both of their res together
>>581163059>>581162960spellbreaker has to be the most worthless shit in the game
>>581162242You're not even allowed to look under any character's skirt, what makes you think they'll release bikini skins?
>>581163314money
I am the only constant.
>>581163395Your tankBVLL clearly created space, you should have played better
>>581163395yes its your fault.
>>581163395why are you hiding the characters
>>581160782Are you really gonna tell me this when my aim is around 40% on statlocker.
>>581163314a woman wearing a bikini vs spy on her underwear are two different things chuddy
Silver should have big tits.Lady Geist should have bigger tits.the upcoming female frontliner should have even bigger tits.
>>581162242what happens is that they go away once the game is released
>>581158564anon did you watch the animation of graves getting fucked while shes stuck in the viscous cube
>>581164423SOURCE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Guys, the PvE shit is a meme, right? No way they would actually think to fragment the community even more.
How it feels to read deadlock updates
>>581164716
>>581164734pve brought like 40k more ppl to marvel rivals
>>581161256>disarming hex on the character that has 40% debuff resist built in to his shield and always buys at least 1 extra debuff resist item between reducer/unstop, blood tribute, or frenzy>lasts 1.7s with reducer, 1.5 with tribute, and 1.4 with frenzyokay anon kun you have approximately 1.7 seconds to kill me btw i have 4000 health and a 600 health barrier and 15m/s movespeed good luck!
>complaining about wardenSorry I play toxic bullets mokrill
>>581164768>celeste hypergamy
Another nice day of streetbrawl. Could have won both games again if not to high to play properly.Eomm seems to ignore you when you're stoned
>>581152564Same, I'm just tired. The game wasn't this bad even when the map still has 4 lanes.
>>581164845Heh jokes on you, i waited out your shield. i lived, surprised? now eat the hex
>>581164845concession accepted
>>581158282same, i like my porn ethically sourced. stand up to AI, support sex workers, artists, refugees, LGBTQIA+, native peoples...
>>581082079up to -3200 to -6400 souls just to counter hersouls that could've gone to countering other heros, or making yourself more powerful or more tankylet alone if they also have dispel magic>she has to come down eventually so be ready to assrape her vindicta players are smart enough to just hide behind their base before their airtime runs out
What's the issue? Just disarming hex him.
>>581161256disarming hex should be 1600 souls.
>complaining about wardenStart playing grey talon
>>581165303>she has to come down eventually so be ready to assrape her actually if she gets 1 kill she will just be in the air forever.
>>581165418>le indian woman of 42% wr
who else should I play as a current dynamo one trick? (I don't build ultbot, I mostly just like the swiss army knife-ness of his kit) I tried rem but I keep getting instashanked everytime I'm out of tag along range
>>581165342>>581165402>>581164845>>581164768>>581162883>>581162641>>581162726YOU'LL NEVER KILL ME
>pushes your walker>chips away at its health>runs through door and disappears with no risk to himselfhow do you respond without sounding mad
>>581157476Yes. At least as someone who at least somewhat enjoys this game, despite it's numerous flaws that may sink it long term leading to massive wasted hours, I am at least know, in this moment, apparently more intelligent than someone who was saying the same thing about 2XKOsucks to suck faggot
>>581165476>dies off in the distance>respawns in 61 seconds
>>581165465sinclair
>>581165457Sinclair has a low winrate guess he is bad to.
>>581165465> I mostly just like the swiss army knife-ness of his kitfucking hate faggots like you just go unstop/warp/refresher instead of trying to be "le epic stomp carry"
>>581165735dynamo can 1v1 warden right now and win
>the deadlock playebase is so bad at aiming they think grey talon is a shit hero
>>581157496>>the community is eating itself alive>>not only regular players but streamers>>they are now wasting more timeOh. My. God. The community is going insane about the meta. Even the hecking streamers?! Someone inform the subreddit and the discord, this is big news.
>>581165624doesnt he have like 52 wr because he can just copy lash/dynamo/celeste and rape people
merc overflow gun talon. think about it.
>>581165902No.
>>581165806what does aiming have to do with grey talon
>>581157496>50% of the content update will be focused toward risk of rain 3explain to me how this is bad
>>581155771>>5811655482xko is unironically fun now that they unlocked all characters for free and is more popular than it ever was and is beating Tokon in player numbers though. I only started playing it two wheels ago and enjoying it.
>>581165806>play gt>dash>slide>"CHARGING">close my eyes>still sliding>spin around 360>kill Wardeneasy
PvE leaks are bullshit
>>581166094yeah, well, too bad. Wanted to play Lee Sin? It will literally never happen ever ever ever. C A N C E L L E Dget fucked
>>581166094>NowIt was fun from the start even when every single team had Ekko
>>581166218PvE is the only mode that will save DeadlockThe MOBA mode already flopped.
if the content is only pve lmfao this game is so fucked
>league fags and the nba2k party gamethey really own this general huh
>>581165806Nah bro trust me having a spammable ability with x2.0 spirit scaling isnt that good.
Deadlock's success can be entirely attributed to it catering to trannies.It also has grown a large black demographic as a result. The only shooter/MOBA where blacks enjoy. The ones with the ladyboys.
I don't know why people here are lying to themselves, aim alone can get you to Ascendant. Above it is when the macro decisions come into play.
>>581155771Lol, deadlock general also beat league of legends general>>581166094Played beta and never bothered again. Wasnt their take on game development to make the fighting ass in a fighting game
>>581166432Does that upset you?
>>581166094>more popular than it ever wasYou dumb nigga there's literally no way to know this.
>>581166435I'd never touch the moba, only 2xko >t. fightanfag
Sorry but Deadlock is russian soil
patch notes leaked-wraith gets 0.000000001% less spirit scaling-silver gets -3 m/s movespeed -slam fire's damage reduced to 3-boot kick's distance reduced to 0.000001 millimetres-bola removed replaced with nothing the first hero to only have 3 skills only-health reduced to two hundred-every time silver is killed the killer gets 3200 money-shiv's stamina reduced to 2 (this is reverted after a single hour)
What if they reduced the number of item slots? How would that change the game? Remember, we used to have 16 inventory slots in Deadlock. Now it's 12. What if they reduced it to, say, 9-10?
>>581165624People who say he's bad are idiots and or downplayers if there's a Silver on the opposite team she can't join team fights at all because he'll just use her ult literally non stop on his 20 second cooldown ult
>>581164818Did it last?I have only played the Overwatch PvE wave defense modes and TF2's Mann vs Machine. With OW a bunch of people did play it, since you got loot boxes for it, but the experience everyone I know had with Mann vs Machine was trying it out once when it came out and then never touching it again.
>>581166508also macro is team dependent. can't do shit if your team doesnt push
>>581165303you have to remember that most people here play at a level where most teams fall apart if you shut their strongest player down, so a lot of games can be won by simply six-man running at that player because his team is too stupid to protect him. also, same as how people don't adapt to enemies by countering them, the enemies don't adapt to being countered. buying one anti-flyer item in timmy elo is enough to put vindicta in a 80s cartoon villain monologue>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU FOUND MY ONLY WEAKNESS... CLAP ME IN IRONS GOOD SIR, I CONCEDEmeanwhile in human elo if you buy knockdown you get a window of AT BEST one teamfight before she buys counterspell, now taking her out of the sky is entirely out of your hands because you need a random to buy a second one and coordinate it with you correctly, and that's assuming she doesn't just buy dispel on the second knockdown, which she doesn't mind doing because she doesn't need a lot of money to spit out damage
>>581166635You just check the lobbies in various hours, it's not a rocket science
DEADLOCK SHOULD HAVE NO ACTIVE ITEM LIMIT
>>581166435they on that social credit
>>581165465Ivy is fun. Leans very heavily on having decent teammates, however.
>>581166787Silver ult sucks on sinclair though. (unless its used in early game, there its just broken)
>>581166460It's so fucking funny to me that Valve's shithole company structure somehow managed them to not get massive backlash for not making a statement on George Floyd.Despite the fact that their headquarters are situated in a massive lefty loony city (Seattle).
>>581167016It doesn't matter it regens his hp and gives him massive resistances + a disarm and healing so he can act as a pseudo tank going wolf over and over and over again
You think they'll ever try to do anything about the massive amount of players who don't understand the game still?
>>581167016
>>581166650Why do they keep hiring Russians, isn't that prohibited by sanctions or something?
>>581166442Is there a basic ability with higher spirits scaling than grey talons?
>>581165303>ugh i have to spend money to counter her? that's such a waste man I could've bought tank buster...>WTF THE VINDICTA KILLED MY ENTIRE TEAM WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO ACK ACK ACKdo you people even hear yourself?
>>581167239Theyre technically not russians
>>581166652Yep, this game is beyond fucking dead, my favorite eceleb just ended their stream early. Cutting myself in the bathtub rn
>>581166720On 25 minute matches I barely use half my item slots.On 45+ minute matches I have over 15k spare souls and I used up all of my item slots. (Maybe I could keep switching items for countering specific heros?)I think there should be a way better pacing system. I think you shouldn't buy more than 3 items if you're over the 20 minute mark. And so on.
>>581166832it lasted one week, lmaoseriously hope the update isn't focused on another meme mode
>>581167239The russians? they're not all bad
>>581167239trump is putin's puppet
>>581166912fuck no, I already am breaking my fingers playing dynamo and paige, I don't need more buttons to press
>>581167187Impossible, Dota has existed for over 20 years in one form or another and most of it's playerbase is still clueless, same with League.
>>581165902you have two really good ults (dynamo, wraith), three meh ults (drifter, lash, paige), and the rest are just straight up garbage.if you have no good ults, you're pretty much just a CC bot with a shittier paige root. bolts are so fucking slow, so good lucking hitting anybody sentient later on (unless you hit point blank where they'll deal no damage).
>>581167187Thats what brawl, the pve mode, and eventually turbo are for
We need a t4 upgrade for titanic mah
>>581166912Active Items should have their own separate slots not shitposting
>>581167269Doorman if you get the direct hit+explosion.
>kelvin draws a bridge anywhere within 300units of my jump pad>retarded game autoaim locks me through the bottom of the bridge and wastes my super aircontrol jump
If the balance patch drops this week then good news the content update is probably next week
>>581166842you can always open your mic to scream at them
>>581166787>sinclair is actually good he can copy the worst hero in the game's ult and get shut down just like her
>>581167653i have a soft voice
>>581167383FUCK. The reddit playerbase... Leaving in droves... Our faggot zoomer streamers are playing other games... Our trans safe space discord server can't even get 10 people in a voice chat any more... Valve, petition to turn the servers off.
>>581167653i have a thick danish accent
>>581167702Thats rivals
>>581167695do you have a soft ass too
Deadlock right now unironically resembles Artifact more than ever. The pros and Streamers refuse to tell Valve the harsh truth that their game is dogshit just in case it blows up, but because all the feedback data from ecelebs is poisoned with posititivy and Valve doesn't listen to normal people, they will only realize something is wrong on the fundamental level when it's too late. I don't think the game will be shut down but it will keep bleeding players after the hype around the update calms down.
>>581167653stopped using mic after people called me slurs like jeet
>>581167873no one cares nigger
>>581167653>>581167653I'm afraid I'll sound retarded so the most I do to communicate in game is use the ping system
>>581167971>enter deadlock match>someone speaks>"bro r u indian?">entire team coms just fills up>"huh what?">"what">"who's indian">"bro nobody here is indian..">"I swear someone sounded like they came from inda">"...."
>>581167986>no one cares niggerYou cared enough to reply and I appreciate that
>>581167873lmao
>>581168103>...>...>...>"MOTHER FUCK U BASTARD I AM FROM FUCKING PAKISTAN BLODDY FUCK DALIT FUCK U MOTHER"
>>581167873>and Valve doesn't listen to normal peopleworse, they listen to non-gamers. unironically. look at how half life 2 was developed
>>581167873>game is dogshithow so>durr you knowkill yourself
Holliday doesnt sound like she is from Illinois at all.
i will never be a brahmin lion...it's over...
>>581168348southern illinois is practically mississippi
>>581168348she's from supernatural Illinois with like ghosts and shit
I hope deadlock never gets an indian hero
>>581168535apollo already exists
>>581168348Sorry viper is the only one allowed to have a funny Midwestern accent
>>581168535mirage>inb4 noo he is hezbollah chad
>>581168630Jeets wish
>>581168535grey talon?
>>581168535viscous>throwing poo!
>>581168756Arabians look better than indian DESU
>>581168918im cool with arabsim not cool with muzzie cavemen
>>581168535abrams is in the game?
>>581168535indian and white are same race
How would (You) nerf egg?I personally would make egg pop early if you die so it's a unsecured soul bag
>>581167986>>581168323you have sunk cost fallacy. you have paid for the game with your time and now you're emotionally attached to a Concord clone. your ego is through the roof right now and you are blinded by it
>>581168793He's the based indian though
>>581169137me need fire water
>>581169101That would lead to a million and one more cowardly unreliable worthless teammates, terrible ideaIt doesn't need nerfs, it's fine
>>581169101No longer grants golden statue buffs. Souls count toward your soul total.
>>581169410what is the point of buying it then
NATIONALITIES THAT NEED TO BE REPRESENTED IN THE GAME IN ORDER OF PRIORITY>Italian>German>Russian>China>Japan>Caribbean>Central/South American (NOT IVY)>Australian>Hawaiian>British>Spanish/Portuguese>Egyptian (NOT A NIG)>another Nordic/Slavic country>South African (White)>Himalayan/Nepalese
>>581169101they'll probably just bump the damage penalty to 15% and see how it goes
>>581169592How many of them make sense in a New Yo'ark 1920 occult setting?
>>581169592I like all of these
>>581169592I want a voodoo nigga
>>581169592>Japan
>>581169101It doesn't need nerfs. Every streamer that made a video bitching about it talks about the fucking comeback mechanics, not the egg.
>>581169592>japan>britishalready exist
>>581167653I'm brown and 4chan has made me selfconscious about it
>>581169540In theory it's supposed to be a support item to help keep them in relevant souls while being low econ. Small soul investment upfront for more souls later or for tempo buy for an expensive item. Souls per minute probably needs to be higher but supports really don't and shouldn't need golden statue buffs. The golden statue buffs really put that item over the top when carries pick it up early and play for the late game.
>>581169101make it cost 1600 souls and give it a max health penalty like glass cannon.
>>5811691013x death timers
>>581169893egg is literally just some slop shit yoshi shat out to pad out an otherwise shitty patch long ago (march 6th btw)
>>581169592we sneed a flyin' hawaiian
Is Yoshi, a.k.a. Icefrong an Indian?
>>581170310nohis name is abdul not singh
>>581170413>he's PakistaniOh god.
>>581169592krill is italian and billy is italian american
>>581169101The souls it passively has are added to your souls so there's no econ maninpulation. Additionally if you die with it it loses some amount of souls.
lost a match to SO+MM+VB wardenhe even had the gall to say that its all ”skill”
I have riotnig doompost fatigue
>>581169592>>581169810until yamato gets a real design shes officially an ayy until further notice
>>581169893>a support item to help keep them in relevant souls while being low econTC does that currently
>>581170860She's technically a Clanker.
>>581170843then you better get off both /vg/ and /v/they get social credit for it
new item: snailcost: 800snails will go down a lane and permapush it until killed. it respawns in 20 seconds. there is no limit to how many snails can be bought
>>581171221we already have the snail
mina.
I'm surprised I've never seen some of this WIP stuff before
>>581171596No sir, I don't like it.
>>581171596*gets mogged by a male*
>>581171596>tranny minano thanks, i prefer bunny mina
>>581171875>>581171998>>581172023election tourists
>>581172207it's been 10 years
>>581171725yea shiv was originally supposed to be like silver
>>581172357Summerfag
>>58117235710 years of shitting up the site, yes.
>>581155171Essentially the reason I lift, I have to be a huge and grotesque piece of shit that somehow gets his hands on a cute girl. God I love the ugly bastard trope. Yoshi, we need the patch.
>>581172561excuse me I was here during obama's first termdo I miss OG epstein jokes? oh yeah
>obamaWho?
>>581172905that guy who overdosed a couple years back
>>581169382I'd rather boost the souls it gains (maybe like >>581169915 said about making it a tier 2 item) and make it more of a interesting risk vs reward item>>581169851I could care less about what Metro saysthe -10% damage penalty is a joke even before throwing lane was a thing people did intentionally
Why does grey talon have ×2 scaling on a spammable ability?
name: victorrole: rapemasterstatus: active
>>581173195MY TURN
>>581173065that was rodney king
>>581173262I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU YET!
>role: rapemasterVictor players want to be mokrill GODS so bad.
>>581167518Infinite Rounds...
>Want to get souls and win the game>Clear waves>Farm backwards>Take objectives>Hit boxes>Actually none of that shit matters when you can just run at the enemy and kill them to get a lot of souls and win the gameWhen I first played this I played it as a TDM, learned how to play a moba, just to go back to playing it as a TDM with an extended revive timer the longer the game goes on.
>>581173516>permanent merc magkino
>>581172905https://youtube.com/shorts/jSVXRSc050A?si=5drsUFIA9fBJsiGF
>>581173561TDM is bad for souls, if you really want to make money you need solo kills.
>>581173714ts isnt even that funny way too over the topi would find rem screaming nigger for 10 minutes on loop funnier
>>581173680Kinda depressing that the legendary gun items in streetbrawl feel like they should be existing tier 4 gun items
>>581173878>ts isnt even that funny way too over the topjust like every epstein joke that's been made since 2024? keep up
https://www.twitch.tv/metro/clip/WanderingVastNostrilANELE-4g893uX5jAcjXe7O>rem>WanderingVastNostrilAGI has awakened.....
>>581173989That would make gun items actually good and THEY would start seething
>>581173989if they add good gun items they would have to also add good gun resist items
>>581174180Bullet resist tho and metal skin and juggy
>>581174282Spirit resist is on like 20 items and they're generally stronger
I keep having dreams about paradox raping me.
>Gameserver: London>Know its gonna be a terrible match where everyone is running it down and we have 3 annoying faggots in chat
Deadlock bros metroGOD is destroying ushttps://youtu.be/eQrK5gJ5jOg
>>581169698All of them makess sense desu
>>581174752don't try and make people give that faggot clicks, thanks
>>581174648try gameserver in Buenos Aires my friend
>>581174752>deadlock has 4 big problems>too many old people>too many girls>too many old boys>buff wraith
I'm actually gonna crash outHAUNTING SHOT IS JUST SLIGHTLY BETTER INHIBITOR>>581174089I just don't like how gun items barely do anything other than make you shoot better kind of>>581174180The whole point of gun is that it scales better than spirit with it being percentage based than a flat number like spiritEven the counter items to guns have counter-counter items
Cadencebros...... next week....
>deadlock ecelebs are ALL pumping doomer videos>"AAAIIIE DEADLOCK IS DYING. THE EGG PROBLEM. MERC MAG OVERFLOW DEADLOCK IS OVER"
>>581175193and they're right
>>581175067>SLIGHTLY BETTER INHIBITORAlso nearly unmissable 10% max health damage every 2.5s
>>581174282>bullet resistone good item that's negated by the 3000 trillion free bullet shred items>metal skinoh noooo the enemy used metal skin I'd better use my free 5 second stun ability that every single left clicker has for some fucking reason and wait for it to end or just shoot through it regardless because lmao>juggernautthis item does nothing>>581175067the difference is that gun is ALWAYS AVAILABLE that's right YOU DON'T HAVE COOLDOWNS ON YOUR GUN>but what about reloadingthere are seven hundred items that reduce reload speed and/or give you free mag size including the ever famous mercury magician who just magically teleports bullets into your gun whenever you press your lowest cooldown ability>>581175353it literally says current health right there on the card twice you nitwit
>>581175067>SLIGHTLY BETTER>look inside>instant with no buildup, bigger numbers, aoe+pierce, 2.5s cd, improved version of slowing bullets attachedGunnigs are really spoiled
>>581175415Oh then nearly unmissable 10% current health damage every 2.5s
>>581175514Thank you for correcting your post.
What if we make lifestrike heal for percentage HP?Too broken?
>>581175623Yes because nearly every melee hero can heal on melee now, they have to rework lifestrike to do something else.
Veil walker GODS, how are we feeling right now? The guillotine is right above our heads.
>>581175067i wanna blow my brains out every time I see someone with cloak of opportunity
>>581175067Am I the only one who refuses to pick eternal gift and seraph wings?
>>581164845real talk i was Dashfernus with Mystic Slow and there was a Warden literally moving just as fast if not faster chasing me through my flame trails WHILE shooting me in the ass for like 400 damage at 10,000 RPM>>581169101don't nerf eggi need it for my tard lanes
>>581165548>yeah deadlock might be getting abandoned>but at least deadlock didn't fail as much as 2xkoHow pathetic and retarded to you have to be to think this? lmao.
>>581176602I accept your concession
>>581176602are you really comparing 2xko's 100 player count vs deadlock's 90khell nawwwwww helll naaaaawww
im black
>Apollo>Abrams>clearly demons>Infernus>just a black dude????????
>>581176678>are you really comparing 2xko's 100 player count vs deadlock's 90kWhen did I say this, you fucking idiot?
>>581176678>deadlocks 90k*deadlocks 60k
Why are there no hero leaks are there no more new heros
>>581177096Soon to be 30k and 10k and dead if this update sucks cock
>>581176727hello infernus and wraith player
>>581177107its a calculated effort to ween players off of the game so that they can kill it silently without causing an absolute shitstorm. its why updates are taking longer and longer, they realized that this was way too mismanaged and high of a goal and they wanna focus on cs2 and dota
>>581177107they took the leaker out back and shot him dead and now they're getting their unpaid interns to doompost 24/7 to build up hype
>my one ban can either go to wraith or warden but not boththis is some sick form of torture
>>581176968Here >>581176602, where you compared deadlock's apparent degree of failure with 2XKO's degree of failure
>>581177107No one was able to leak what Silver looked likeVakve pretty much clamped down
>>581177585>where you compared deadlock's apparent degree of failure with 2XKO's degree of failurenice reading comprehension retard, lmao.I was calling the valvedrone pathetic because he feels good that valve's failed game did better than riot's failed game like he's a valve shareholder. I never said or implied that 2xko has or is doing better than deadlock.
>phantom strike >Teleport to an enemy target and pull them to the ground. Dealing damage, Move speed reduction and Disarm.>doesnt even fucking prevent them from using movement abilitieswtf is this trash bro
Tencent will collapse soon.
>>581177872We all know what you're referring to when you say 'fail as much'.You really shouldn't be obtuse on purpose and mock other people's reading comprehension, that's rather rude.
>>581177696oh this is actually truewe only knew that silver was a transformation werewolf herobut none of the leakers described her appearanceso that might have been when all the leakers got shot
is the patch coming with new heroes or nah?also lil paradox sketch
>>581177872are you going to apply for valve when league next sharts and fails?
>>581178120We simply don't know
>>581160782you are a retard. Aim training got me from the worst player to best player I know
>>581178120cute dox
>>581178120I wish paradox wasnt just a rich bitch petty thief
>>581178120>that thumb and index fingerDELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>581178114>doubles down on the retardationhere's exactly what I said>but at least deadlock didn't fail as much as 2xkoplease tell me how this somehow means that deadlock failed more than 2xko? Only a brown could be this stupid
>>581178486You are, in fact, still continuing to compare them.
>>581178206apply for what, retard?
>>581178607a new job when your company dies from retardation
I'm getting bored of Deadlock and the patch is right around the corner. I think it's over for me.
>>581178565I was replying to this post >>581155771dumb monkey
>>581178738And you're continuing to justify it.
>>581178450she isn't
If you don't have both snowglobes on your fireplace then I don't give a FUCK about your opinion, simple as.
>>581178693I'd love a job at valve, getting paid to do absolutely nothing
>>581178728october 8 is right around the corner?
>>581178979better off than working for riot, that's for sure
would a rockstar hero be too out of place? using guitars and shit
>>581178979Genuinely how can we email valve or gaben to let them know they arent working on the game and should cancel it
>>581178728november isnt too far away
>>581179158a few guys beat you to the punch in the forums already
>>581178469i will NOT learn how to draw h*nds
>>581179223oh. im torn between a johnny silverhand type of cool guy and a cute girl :(
>>581179306submit it anyway, it won't hurt. most of the guitar concepts are jazz musicians
>>581179285it was a joke about how south koreans get into an absolute melty when the index finger and thumb are too close together anon it looks good :D
>>581179438ohthanks bwo i used a base as ref
first time playing ivy and she's fun. what build do you guys use for her?
>>581179612go spirit ivy, if you play gun you'll turn into a crazed schizo
>>581177107It's remodels + jungle creeps + a couple bits of the map will have actual models + PVE they've wasted 6 months+ developing, no new heroes.
>>581179687If they actually release a PvE mode that isn't just an arcade meme event like aghs lab I'm uninstalling and never looking back
>>581179687PRAYING the viscous remodel is as far from that tourist shit as possible. The yamato wasnt bad though but she needs to stay purple/gold for clarity
Always bet on Holliday Model Update Also Silver animations
mmmmmmm nyus?
>>581179991item update delayed indefinitely for the mega content patch
patch prediction:merc mag + spiritual overflow nerfsmeaningthe only hypercarry that will be good is victor
patch prediction:It gets delayed AGAIN
https://www.twitch.tv/ryai_bunbunwatch this japanese guy play a bot game
>>581179912>she needs to keep her placeholder color scheme for clarityretard
>>581180403deadlock is the least watchable game of all time my nigga, no thanks. I'll be watching babylon 5 instead
>>581180403at least the japs have the civil sense to play bot games before normsif this was a brown or lesser european you know that nigga be doing elo terrorism in standard rn
>>581180505bro it'd be like if they suddenly made abrams green, wouldn't THAT be nuts
>warming up before Standarderm
the lane stage is the warmup since it litearlly doesn't matter unless you go 0-5 against a drifter/vinny
>>581178120only 2 new heroes
>>581181003wrecker and cheshire
>>581178120There's a reason it's called a content update and not a hero update
>>581181685SKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BATTTLEPASS!!!!!!! WOOHOOOOOO YIPPEEE!!!!!!!!!!
>>581181590Trapper and The Boss actually
i tried to be nice
the japanese streamer has just been confused by the mid pings
>>581181726>Deadlock artstyle will be completely ruinedIt was fun while it lasted
I tried to beat lice *bald*
Shiv has the best voice acting in the game no contest
>>581182346Can't believe he has the same VA as the worst voiced hero in the game.
>>581182307After graves and silver there's no artstyle to speak of the game lost integrity a year ago>>581182346DONT THINK FOR ONE SECOND YOURE BETTER THAN MEis my favorite voiceline it's so good it sounds real
>dude the movement in this game is fire bro>so like the first thing you gotta learn is how to turn in midair>no you can't just move in the direction you wanna go>you gotta move kinda perpendicular to your velocity>you also gotta turn your camera constantly to match that velocity as you turn otherwise it stops working>no the rate at which you turn varies depending on how fast you're going>it also makes you go slightly faster sometimes>well it's because some quake era programmer didn't understand the full implications of a dot product 30 years ago>okay but let's try instant air dashing>you dash in the air>no like right away>it lets you preserve momentum more and slide>well because the code that applies air friction doesn't have time to kick in>no like it has to be frame perfect>okay but also have you tried corner boosting and edge boosting>okay so an edge boost is a walljump off a corner and a corner boost is a walljump off an edge>yeah you basically get two walljumps at once>no yeah the velocities stack>yeah any corner>well I mean like not any corner the world geometry is kinda weird>no like yeah the timing is kinda narrow>no yeah like frame perfect>okay that one you gotta like land on the edge>like right on the edge>no like yeah like no like right on the yeah no it's like it's frame perfect>no yeah it gives you a measurable movement boost>well there's this guy on youtube who->I mean yeah if you practice->well I mean like I can get two in a row if I->I mean you don't even need it really>I mean yeah most of the high level players but>look man it just takes practice and>okay no look it's going to be a really popular game you don't understand
>>581178120what a cute dox
I can't believe they removed ICE BLAST
>>581182724yo dawg...i ain't reading all that fr unc
>>581182724You're having a hysterical meltdown, it might be time for you to step away from the game.
>guy jumps off and on a rope when im in wolf formlets buff celeste again :D
hopefully we get in game emotes soon
>>581182724Retard-kun...
>Silver went from first pick to a full month of not being picked once in nightshifthehehe you see that shit?
Hopefully we get some appealing heroes soon.
>>581183386one of the new heroes is basically bigger rem in a diaper. his ultimate he shits himself
oh wow another victor match where we lose lane and then our walker in 15 minutes I sure loooove early game victor
>>581183375the "pros" couldn't stomach maintaining the false narrative any longer
>>581183489now thats based and pog
twitch chat is trying to groom the japanese streamer by introducing him to eskay
>>581183630go back to r*ddit and post about it there
>>581183630japs don't fall for tranny shit like western white women. in fact up until 2023 if you transitioned in japan there was mandatory sterilization so there would be zero chance of you passing on your mental illness to your children.
>>581183764this is reddit
movement tranny melty UH OH
japanese streamer update: he thinks lash looks too gay, he has decided to play celeste, mina, and seven because they look cool
Maybe its just because i don't know what's included in the content update, but i'm kind of more excited for the item update. We really just need a big overhaul for the shop
>>581184026the balance patch this week is likely touching the egg, siphon, and overflow so it'll be less obnoxious for a bit
>vote to ban wraith>she's not banned>she's on the enemy teamgg I guess
infernus and vindicta lane whyyyyyyyyyyy
>>581184026Yeah there's no way that any of the patches are gonna be good, considering how bad the last ones were.
Of all the tentative heroes I hope they rework at least a little are Wraith and CalicoWraith is mostly fine but her arms need some workCalico is a complete shitshow but I genuinely believe she can be salvagedMy main concern is that whatever they do to those two heroes it won't be enough
>>581184026we already had a shop update before and it made the game worse.
QRD on Yoshi playing Marvel Rivals?
>>581182346bro your lash? or even drifter is better than shiv
>>581185063if you genuinely believe a dev enabled discord tracking on their account and then booted up marvel rivals on a work computer i have a bridge to sell you.
>have to decide whether you want to shoot this guy or not because if you do you'll wolf out but then you wont have the wolf for the next team fightlol wtf is wrong with silver man you have to actually think if you want to randomly shoot someone running away on low health because if you do you'll wolf out and not have it
The game gets worse the worse they make Silver.Actual fact.
>>581182724he's right you know>>581182842>>581183061>>581183325kill yourself movement trannies, you have 1-2 weeks left before yoshi curbstomps your gay playstyle
>>581177584I ban Graves because I really dislike playing against her
>>581176275i wanna blow my load on vindicta
>>581182724Trvke
Deadlock was my favorite game before there were so many overtuned support type characters. God I wish there existed a fucking arena shooter that wasn't dead.
every pocket and sinclair player needs to be beat to death
>>581185873sir, your marvel rivals?
>>581185969Please, hold your applause!
>>581185969can piloting pocket or sinclair even be considered playing the game
>>581186686Are you being funny on purpose?
>>581186686>suggesting THE overtuned support character gamewhy? did you not read his post?
>>581153681>content droughtWhat are you talking about?We got 6 heroes just recently, we are getting a bunch of updates?What are you expecting? A new hero every week or something? That's absolutely retarded.
>>581187075This. We JUST got a new map moving from 4 lanes to 3 lanes and a whole new shop system. AND we're getting a PvE mode soon, possibly even a full rework to midboss and jungle camps. Doomposters = schizoposters
we LITERALLY JUST got Shiv and you entitled fat chud redditor wojaks want ANOTHER update? Ugh maybe play another game? The devs don't owe you anything
>>581187075nigga it's been 9 months and the heroes are unbalanced dogshit and unfun. At this rate there will never be enough heroes before the game is canceled
>>581187054Everyone is overtuned in Rivals
>>581187472Years later and people still peddle this lie.
>>581186686Game needs more healsluts. Paige is close but we need a princess tier blonde slut
>>581187519I played every role in that game, it's not a lie
>>581187628healslutting as paige is really fun so i agree ;p
>>581187687A game having terrible balance is not everyone being op. Everyone being op is an oxymoron anyways since there will always be characters better than others and rivals 100% showed this.
>>581187427>9 monthsits been 6 monthsand there have been balance patches in betweenwe are literally on the cusp of an update that has been delayed, like what are you talking about? Like I said, what the fuck are you expecting?A new hero every week?I am here to play the game, not play new things, if new things come out, cool, if not, the game is still fun, if you are bored of it right now and can't find fun it, go do something else and then come back.What is this fucking schizophrenia?
>>581187415You know that the game is still in beta technically? They really dont owe you anything
>>581182724suddenly I don't want to play deadlock anymore...
>>581186686both of these are coalburners btw
c'mon guys the game has only been in development for almost 9 years, give the hardworking devs at valve a break.Just because the game in development stopped getting developed for 9 months doesn't mean anything, it's also free btw.
>>581188023I know what shade your skin is
>>581187872>A game having terrible balanceNigger do you know what general this is?
>>581188127reetard marvel was writen by Jews
>>581187753L O N D O N
>>581188246Belgrade actually
>>581188196and you're brown
>>581187891A game in development is different than a game released. This is simply too slow to meet expectations and the game is boring. Yes I play other things, no I wont stop posting about how valve sucks ass and is lazy.
>that one dude convincing everyone to hop on wow forever it's gabeit's over
Trash Marvels Rivals all you want at least those devs have actual backbone and don't cave to streamer pressure and balance the game exclusively for a handful of triple or double digit view streamers who bitch about whatever hero killed their metapick.They also actually update the fucking game insanely fast.Yoshi "balancing" like a twitch tier 3 sub donationsimp will be the death of this game
>>581189075the only people pressuring those devs are stock holders and disney themselves
>>581189075deadlock is made by indians and rivals made by chinese
>>581189075they balance the game based on which character sells the most skins, there's a reason why luna snow and cnd dominate the meta
how do you counter the unicorn whore
>>581189327as opposed to deadlock which doesn't get balance updates
>>581189471There's nothing that really counters her particularly well, you want anti heal and spirit resist as well as arctic blast and phantom strike to lock her down, slowing hex can be okay early if you hit her with it while she's on the ground but it just gets dispelled and will do nothing if she's in the air, knockdown is a meme item.
>>581189327Out of the top 10 winrate characters, only 1 has a skin in the top 10 most soldStop talking out of your ass and running defense for Yoshi, he doesn't pay you nor know you exist to defend his honor onlineKissing the developer's ass isn't going to make the game better
I wish I could remove paige from the game. Support sissy characters have fucking ruined every god damn shooter in existence.
>>581189808Bolt action rifle gun for Vindicta when?
>>581189471if you only do gun damage you won't trigger witchmail for her and you can just shoot her to death.
Maybe the whole "no bosses" thing at Valve isn't such a good idea after all, someone needs to crack the whip
>>581191196>that possibly one employee who blogged about how icefrog ruined the vibe at valve completely all because he was a go getter>now icefrog takes long vacations like the rest of'emgrim
>someone with a brain buys witchmail on warden and never uses flask or chain>he now has infinite Willpower shields that give him 900 hp every 2 secondsyep epic
Is there a reason teammates will spend like more than half the game without a full set of items? I understand saving up for a 3k or 6k item if you really need it. There are times I see teammates with like literally 4 items and it's been 25+ minutes, most of the time it isn't even 4 good items but like 4 haphazard items that don't even really help them or give them spikes.How fucking dumb are these people genuinely? Even if they just filled out their inventory with like totally random 800 soul buys it would help them more
>>581191496ngl if you aren't queining top wr chars in ranked you're basically throwing and should be banned
>>581191496kek that's genius you cant even silence him because it gives DBR lmaoooooo
He's in.
>enemy mcginnis maxes turrets, rushes exposure, spirit burn and echo shard on wallmcginnis might dethrone even graves in terms of how braindead you can be and still play good
>>581190275You have to go back.
>>581152564Egg issue is overblown.
>>581190417Think they'd ever go the TF2 route and give characters new weapons or items to use? >Bolt action Vin for super high damage>double barrel abrams>throwing spear Grey Talon>Puppet doll Graves>No melee dual pistols Billythings like that?
why do niggas say victor is "weak" earlygame if he has green and purp spike he's literally stronger than any other hero if he has ult up
>>581192104downplayers
>>581190275Actually they save the game. Imagine a cute feminine paige doing everything she can to keep you alive.
I play Rem and intentionally ragebait my team into playing as hard as they can saying stuff like "No way you can carry" in standard.
>>581192104People are straight up retarded and dont understand the first thing about the game so if their favorite streamer or reddit doesnt say he's op then they will never use their brains and change their opinion. IMO victor is the worst designed hero in the game. Reaching a 60% winrate by buying refresher for an uninteractive non counterable ult is just disgusting. And like you said his laning phase isn't even weak. He has a slight weakness before t3 ult is up where he can actually be ganked but after that it's just cancer.
>>581192503you can just counter his ult by not killing him :)
>>581192662>passively stands on top of you for 10k damageACK
>In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.>does 600 damage>dies
>>581192503He folds like paper after you buy Crippling and Toxic Bullets though.
>>581192775I remember my first game as Venator on the day he came out and his ult was buggedI oneshot a drifter for like 6k health
>>581192796No, he still has 3 lives you have to chew through and he's disrupting the teamfight with two ults and charging at your backline.
>>581192104he's weak when compared to other carrys like warden or wraith
>>581178120They've been consistent with the 6 heroes updates so far, zero reason they would change now (will obviously stop happening once this game hits beta but we're nowhere near that)
graves is unironically the least cancerous hero to play against
>>581191921I'm yet to see conclusive evidence that egg is an actual issue.Factually, people complain about how comeback mechs gives bonus resistances. FACTUALLY holding an egg is like giving the other team a permanent 1/3 comeback advantage over you.If comeback mechs is an issue, how is giving a permanent comebacker advantage to ANYONE you fight the solution? The data is just muddled because NA "pros" are clique as fuck and copy each other, so now they both have eggs.
>>581192936Phantom Strike, Warp Stone, Mystic Slow , Refresher Victor is crazy based
The egg "debate" is just the Silver debate 2.0. Completely overblown non-issue that becomes an issue simply because nightshift inhouse faggots keep memetically pushing it as oneI WOULD say change my mind, but I'm 100% fucking correct
i remember 1.5 motnhs ago melee creeps was abusing eggand then no one did it again until now for whatever reason
>>581193995cause it's not good, retard.
>>581193995Yeah. It's a strategy, but that doesn't make it a WINNING strategy. Even the people playing Night Shift are very capable of picking bad strats. Factually speaking NS is an amateur competition and the level is significantly lower than real comp scenes like cs2 and dota2
remember on april 1st icefrog the paki decided to waste everyones time with that dupe hero shit. still pisses me off
*does nothing in ur path*
>>581194204I thought it was okay but the thing is that was already in the game files. They literally put a 0 to a 1 for april fools. The laziest pieces of shit devs to ever exist I swear
>>581193946Spotted the carry playerIt objectively benefits carry heroes since they can feed and still comeback ontop with buffs and souls
>>581194204I mean the only thing that makes you happy is wrapping your lips around a fat chode so that makes sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPrb0zpOxf8we are so back
>>581193946True, I'm tired of subhumans in the Deadlock playerbase being nothing more than broadcasters for eceleb wrong "opinions".
>>581194293>doesn't actually reduce gun damage unlike spellbreaker>doesn't even provide resist like spellbreaker>3.2k soul item does its job but at 100% efficiencythis thing needs a rework
>>581195125It needs more stats added to it to make it worthwhile
>>581194293>>581195125Depends on the hero. When I build this vs Haze and Vin it makes me feel completely immortal.
>>581194293>>581195125>>581195482Some times in the game like this one are only worth it on the winning side. Which is to say, it "works" as an item because it will let you win more. It wins more because you'll be taking even less damage/negated entirely from the enemy who is dealing lower damage to you. But it's not as useful because when you're winning, especially if you're winning hard, it isn't necessary to buy items like these when you can just buy other items that crush your enemies.Frankly I also think spirit res/gun res are useless items. Spirit shielding and gun shielding are cheaper by HALF and better because shields are a flat damage reduction from all sources with no-need activation. The only reason to even buy the resilience items is to make the losing side even weaker, but when you're winning like that it's better to just get more kill-items because them being dead means they can't even hurt you at all. A lot of items need to be reworked or combined into one-single item that does both or all of the things. Maybe a special category with even higher priced items?
>>581196887The item rework (coming late 2027) will fix this!
Does deadlock have EOMM? And if so, what are some telltale signs that it does? After all, Valve denies it and so do redditors
Do you think there should be an option to completely reset your rank, ELO, etc, ratings in game so you can re-place yourself in the algorithm? Maybe it has like a 6 month long timer so you can't do it over and over. I'm seeker ranked and I genuinely don't think I should be here. Not because I think I should be a top level rank or some shit, but because I think I should be atleast a little bit higher. I want to escape these shit tier ranks but it seems utterly impossible with the teammates I am forced to play with. Idiots that can't and won't defend lanes. Idiots that don't chase down the easiest kills ever and let enemy escape for free. Idiots that won't take midboss or a walker even if you are literally begging them to do so and it would be the best move for the team at the time.All I want is teammates that, generally, know how to play the game. Every game feels like a genuine random choice; if the game started and ended with "you win!" or "you lose!" it would be the exact same shit as actually playing because the teammates are just so randomly varied in skill and usefulness.
>>581197863no if you dont believe you're seeker pick a moronic carry at that low elo like victor and just climb out
>>581197863>Idiots that don't chase down the easiest kills ever and let enemy escape for freeyeah you're the idiot here can tell you're seeker "LE RUN AND GET KILLS DUDE CHASE DEM KILLS! GET DEM KILLSSSS MY KDA YOUR KDA KILL THEM!"
Yoshi's mom is a hoe
>>581197345sneed
>>581198015Are you genuinely trying to say you've never seen a teammate not chase a kill they could easily get? I've seen THREE people decide not to chase an enemy who could be killed by a stray bullet because they just let them go. I'm not saying "chase them to the ends of the earth", I'm saying I see teammates winning a fight/gank, but just decide to let the enemy go just because. You're lying if you say you've never seen it. >>581197937I do play those kinds of characters. Not all the time, but sometimes yes. What matters most is your 5 teammates not being retarded. If your 5 teammates don't play well/correctly, you will lose plain and simple. They keep killing themselves? They don't defend shit? They don't help in team fights? They don't try to secure OBJs like bridge buff or urn? Etc; you are going to lose. It's just that simple. One good player can only do so many good things at one time. If your teammates are not capitalizing on those good plays, it's fruitless.
>>581198495nope DL is an amazing case where you can legitimately carry your entire team because of how long the respawn timers are also post your stats everytime people go "its my teammates!" they're someone like a haze going 1 9 and 4
>>581160363>It's not just her ult. It's the fact that she has an auto-aim gun, free movement bonuses, absurdly high lifesteal, and a gigantic shield that punishes you for breaking it.Her "autoaim" projectile is low rate of fire and low velocity. If you're seeing a Celeste shredding you with gun, it means you basically took all her Dagger stacks and didn't take the 15 seconds worth of warning shots and setup seriously. Also, currently Gun Celeste is offmeta.Her movement is less offensive than someone like Mina who can go invulnerable or Wraith who straight up teleports. Celeste's movement is more like a cruising speed at high altitude, once she touches the ground it takes a large amount of stamina to get back up again. Reminder Slowing Hex increases the target's gravity, nullifying her gravity passive. If the argument is that's not feasible, then I'd ask what the counter play is to Mina or Wraith's movement?Her lifesteal is overtuned, I would agree. Her shield is a joke, though. If you're seeing a Celeste walk in and not take damage, she probably has hella spirit scaling on Reactive, on top of her shield.She's overtuned because of her ult and basically only her ult. See how she went from C tier to S tier in the matter of 2 patches (which both buffed her ult). Everyone already knew how to player her at that point, it's not like her meta notably changed.
patch in 5
>nooblet ratrank>win lane>our team has more kills>our team has destroyed all their walkers, we have all of ours>we have won 3 rifts in a row>20 min, check souls comparison - same>uh?>enemy celeste and mcginnis somehow have 5k more souls than anyone in our team>proceed to lose as celeste kills everyone 1v3 no matter how many silences you throw at her while mcginnis pushes lanes without any effortI'm not having any fun guys, I guess I've been filtered.
>win lane decisively>actually end up having to play a lot more risky than the loser now, if you want to have any chance to maintain your lead, because otherwise they'll just farm the difference in a few minutes>at the same time, playing risky (stealing their jungle and boxes) exposes you to getting killed if the enemies have any map awareness at all, which will put your former lane opponent AHEAD of you>but if you don't play risky, your lane opponent will effortlessly catch up thanks to the myriad comeback mechanicsWhat the fuck are the devs smoking? Why not just let us at it like Overwatch/Street Brawl or whatever, if they hate laning so much? >actually the first 10-15 minutes of the game shouldn't determine the next 10-15 minutes!!!!As it stands, the first 10-15 minutes don't matter at all
>>581200156my favorite is instantly losing the game because nobody has the intelligence to counterbuy and not just l->r the build they picked off the browser 5 minutes ago
>>581194524I can't wait for the Dr. Disrespect stream!
>>581200193>As it stands, the first 10-15 minutes don't matter at allIt does, but not everyone gets value from winning lane. If a late scaler wins lane, it's checkmate. If an early to mid scaler wins lane, it doesn't matter since games can't end early.
I'm garbage at this game, but god it feels good when the enemy team completely forgets you exist and you get the chance to delete objectives within 10 seconds. Literally 90% of this match was playing lane poking and doing camps/boxes until I realized there was a team fight going on somewhere which allowed me to just swoop in for the walkers
this meta is so strange
>>581184196You can't ban the protagonist of Deadlock. She has to be in every match.
her 1 needs a hard rework, they need to make spirit viper an actual thing
>>581200824I like how gun being broken is so embed into the damage formulas that even if a spirit meta is left alone, people reverse engineer gun.
>ecelebs make video about 6 egg teams (meme strat that got used once)>yoshi immediately addresses the situationit's no joke, they balance this game exclusively on the word of streamers
>>581200984almost every game has 4 or 5 veil walkers now too, i think the most i saw in a match was 10
>>581201120Its not a streamer thing its a high elo thingI see it every gameIts gonna eventually trickle down to you bricklow dw
>>581200786>>581200824>>581201227I can't be the only one who thinks 12 item slots is way too much.They should cut that number to 9-10 or make t4 items take 2-3 slots. Or mYbe some kind of system that makes it the higher tier item takes more slots
How do you put an item into a build multiple times? I want an alt build order section.
>>581201727Fuck you I like having lots of cheaper items. Especially when some games can take forever to get your last two slots.
>>581194293if they patch merc mag and full auto to be on-hit effects then this becomes the best green item in the game overnight
>>581194293Crazy how much better the spirit res t4s are over gun. Yet people whine about spirit like spellbreaker and witchmail aren't god tier compared to this dogshit.
>>581202518witchmail is good but I wish my teammates would stop buying it as their first spirit res item>yes i would like half of resilience for double the price
Imagine playing Deadlock on Steam Frame
>>581194293Just make it a Return Fire upgrade, deflected bullets have a chance of bouncing back to the enemy and give it slightly better stats.There, item fixed!
>spirit res items are much better than gun res items >meta is spirit anyway because it doesn't matter how much spirit res you have
>meta is spiritLOL
>>581203013I remember when Return Fire would instantly kill Haze when she popped ult on you it was hilarious
>>581203010>install nude paige and mina mods>spawn them in sandbox
>>581201227It's just more noninteractive slop. Go invisible, burst damage + CC, bypass any sense of reaction time entirely. The counter play being to just sit in base and give up, farming your T1's if you're lucky, until you yourself buy veilwalker.fun
Did I hallucinate that Yoshi made a post saying the patch was tomorrow. I swear I saw that shit at 5AM when I woke up.
>>581203010imagine 15fpsThe thing is Deadlock's screen is so packed, you can't exactly play the thing on a theater screen, and ordinary monitor is the ideal for it.
>>581204220Its a objectively better fortitude that gives you invis >>581204304Balance patch 'soon', so probably this week though it might not be today
>>581204304yes, balance patch this week but update won't be for 1-2 weeks still
>>581201227>>581204220God veil walker is so fun on Haze. Just perma invis around the map, one tap delete a squishy, finish their camp then proceed to move at extreme MS to the other side of the map to get them again.
>>581204449You say that, but every Haze in pisslow is running Veilwalker and I KNOW they aren't using veils and just found it in a L -> R
>>581204549I play in dogshit, not even ranked pisslow, and grab a veil around 12k~ and just run trains. It's super fun to dip from a teamfight, push a wave, then return while the fight is still going.
If you could select a hero to increase the chance of it being on the enemy team who would it be
>>581201450>High elo plays egg to play around comeback mechs since bonus resistances in rifts are OP>Everyone you fight now effectively gets 10% resists to all your damage>Fucking comeback mechanics
>>581204818Silver and Paige
>>581204818GT or Mirage. I have seen exactly 0 of those heroes carry a game in literal months.
>usually have a very long build for graves, little to no t4s by the time the match ends>just fought a good graves, rushed t4s, had multiple by match endI know the answer to witch is best is "it depends" and they can both work but I can't help but second guess myself.
>>581205443Which*>>581204941Yeah but they're annoying as fuck. Mirage right now works best as a split push rat.
>>581204921No seriously though, the egg meta is genuinly stupid>both teams have egg; meaningless scenario since egg just cancels out egg>neither team has egg; see above>one team has egg:>if winning, egg is meaningless as you are already winning. Without egg you'd just win harder.>if even after egg pop, egg is meaningless as you were probably only losing because of the egg>if you are losing even after egg pop, egg was meaningless as you are literally just getting gappedCounterargument: "But what about timing the egg pop for a big item?">Meaningless. That item you just got represents an item the enemy team already had.The egg is literally a meaningless item if bought by the entire team. It doesn't matter. The fact that you get "comeback souls" do not matter since the team with map presence will just farm more and control sinners and urn. The item is pure placebo but the "pros" are a bunch of adhd uni rejects so they can't math that out
>>581205936neat
We need this but for Deadlock
>>581206127didn't read
>>581206169valve are already on the case
>>581206127Actual rat-rank tier take with zero understanding of what makes it good or how it benefits carrys and hybrid heroes.
>>581204818Viscous.If you beat him in lane, he's not recovering, and most people don't know how to play him well.
>>581206310>we will intentionally give everyone in the enemy team the equivalent of about 2k of resistances!>as we lose we will get comeback souls from neutral farm!>except we also will kill stuff 10% slower on averageI might not be Eternus but I did finish uni
>>581207047You offset it with monster rounds buddy?You don't buy egg on tempo heroes you do it for the afk farmers.
>>581206127getting comeback souls does matter, because in the first ~15 minutes of the game, a small numerical soul difference can still be a large enough %age difference to give the enemy team significant comeback souls, without really being enough to allow your team to just chad up on their farm and carelessly invade camps statue buffs are broken on carries because of the hybrid meta they get zero bad stats from statue buffsalso it's very hard to get enough of a lead to end games now, 40+ minute long games are way more common in high elo than they were a few months ago, so playing to scale is more viable. most of the time it's because one team rolled absurd midboss heroes and it's too hard for the other team to get a clean midboss and rejuv is almost mandatory to siege base in this meta
>>581207248thats how celeste should look like
>>581207214You can't "offset" a damage penalty. It is still there. You haven't neutralized it.Anyway, the "egg meta" requires the entire team to play into it for it to even work. A player who decides to buy egg in solo queue is just doing a wager that they think that either they won't have access to farm for some reason, so they need to offset this loss of access (so the slowed down farm speed won't matter to them because they would just "cap out" on farmable things anyhow) OR they wager that they can win even with a 10% penalty.
>>581207248I love Celeste with clown makeup.Deadlock could use a clown girl or a mime girl hero
>>581205936>rem also getting merc mag and siphonlel
>>581207443Before the new base games used to end way quicker on average so tempo actually matteredNow every game is 30+ so its very easy to leverage comeback mechanics. The only objective that matters is midboss. anything before that is a joke.
Kill Yoshi. Behead Yoshi. Roundhouse kick that Valve dev into the concrete. Slam dunk a Yoshi egg into the trashcan. Crucify filthy green dinos. Defecate in Yoshi's food. Launch Yoshi into the sun. Stir fry Yoshi in a wok. Toss Yoshi into an active volcano. Urinate into Yoshi's gas tank. Judo throw Yoshi into a wood chipper. Twist Yoshi's heads off. Report Yoshi to the IRS. Karate chop Yoshi in half. Curb stomp pregnant Yoshi. Trap Yoshi in quicksand. Crush Yoshi in the trash compactor. Liquefy Yoshi in a vat of acid. Eat Yoshi. Dissect Yoshi. Exterminate Yoshi in the gas chamber. Stomp Yoshi's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Yoshi in the oven. Lobotomize Yoshi. Mandatory abortions for Yoshi. Grind Yoshi fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Yoshi in fried dino grease. Vaporize Yoshi with a ray gun. Kick old Yoshi down the stairs. Feed Yoshi to alligators. Slice Yoshi with a katana.
>>581207443Yeah but comeback souls don't even start before you are what, 3k down or something? And that 3k matters more early since you might be 2 tier 2 items behind without the bonus souls even trigger. And even when they trigger, they still scale proportional to a percentage of how behind you are and the amount of souls you get is proportional to match time. Which is to say that early comeback souls might be negliable.Frankly, teams that say early game doesn't matter just sound salty about the fact that they lacked the coordination to play around an early lead. Meanwhile they will in the same sentence complain about how lategame is decided by a single pick and who got the better midboss heroes (so why tf did you intentionally play it late then?!)The egg strat is just playing to coinflip the map late because your ass isn't good enough to dominate on a macro level.
>>581208407On a objective level the early game is irrelevant since there's nothing you can really do to leverage a early game lead into ending besides inflicting mental damage/making them tilt hence why egg is goodyou or your team make a single mistake and the lead is evaporated.
Bros, it's over. The Deadlock killer is herehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/961200/
>>581207901>buys monster rounds>kill creeps in the same number of bullets as if I don't have the eggyou're wrong and brown. also didn't read the rest of your cope lol
>>581209216>Release date: 20 Aug, 2024
>>581209216How did these guys manage to rip off Paragon and not have actual graphics
@581209216without even clicking your link it's chink shit that install a bitcoin miner.
Balance patch?Any time soon?
>>581209704This week you can assumeContent update next week or the week after that
>>581203408>spirit coming out of a gun isn't spirit because reasons
>"X character just takes over early game and it's impossible for me to scale!">"If my team gets behind we just lose!">Nerfs character>Buffs comeback mechanics>"WTF Everyone is abusing comeback mechanics and greeds late game builds and you can't do anything about it!"
This Album is pure Billy.
why am i allowed to do this
>>5812111961 is better
>>581209395>only buy monster hunter>kill creeps with less bulletsIndianon...
>>581209485>>581209526It had 16 patches since MayCompare that to DeadlockIt's over...
so how exactly is shiv balanced
>>581169101-egg value counts towards player soul count (for comeback purposes)-increase damage penality from -10% to -15%-poppin the egg does not instantly give all the soul value of the egg and does not get rid of the damage penality-you slowly get your souls over time-you slowly lose damage penality over time-the total time you need to wait to get all the souls and lose damage penality is the total time you had the egg unpoped divided by 2-golden stats remain unchangedthere, you get your stats but you get cucked with your souls and damage penality if you greed for too long
>>581214316let's give the guy with crazy sustain an instant kill. that makes sense.
>>581215230Might as well remove it from the game.
>Mercurial Magnum>Icon is a pistol
>>581216161you still get same stats and souls anoniif you greed for more than 10 minutes its your own fault and you will have to deal with it
i've heard that they're delaying the content update because they're afraid of the smash hit game "marvel's wolverine"
>>581216587I've heard that you didn't hear this
silver will be giga buffed in the balance update and shoot straight up to actually being s tier and all the metaslaves will come crawling back preventing you from playing her have fun!
>enemy team decides I will not be allowed to play the game>despite being rushed by everyone and eating every cooldown and item my team do nothing with this
>>581169101remove the comeback mechanicsjust let people lose
It's time to remove corner and edge boosts and make drifting not retarded.CC spam will only get worse when you can fly around without spending stamina.
>>581217329Congrats you made characters like Apollo and Calico 70% win rate, retard
>>581186818Sinclair yes since he only has one get out of jail free card and his bolts are actually hard to aim, Pocket no since he's braindead overpowered.
>>581217058how rancid are mina's girl failure farts?
>>581217387just make walljumping cost stamina, they can tweak exactly how much but it shouldnt be free
>>581217697simply play better
>>581192028Absolutely not, they're set on making every gun in the game as boring as possible. They'll add cosmetics that make everyone even uglier and add even more visual clutter, though.
>>581216773
>>581217838kill yourself
>>581212369you're brown
>>581217862and what's stopping you from doing that now?
>>581217838that's uh that's some dedication
>>581217982
>>581218119uh more souls from creep, automatic free souls for the lowest net worth players, bounties that depend on the net worth of whoever you killed not your networth so you just overtake them, 35% resists from urn
>>581218119comeback mechanics aren't stopping me, but they are forcing me to play for an extra 10+ minutes on a match that has obviously been won or lost long ago
>>581197345It does have EOMM, because you can climb with a negative winrate, so the game will give you shitter teammates and expect you to carry them.
I'm watching Zerggy's stream. Their current game, they got shat on so hard they have a 30-50k soul gap but they played comeback rift and got some kills and now the game is even. I wasn't a believer of the shit "pro" players were saying, but now I am.
>Doorman can put you in walls/outside the map>Unstuck doesn't work half the time>Valve removed suicide commandWhat the fuck
>>581194293Poach more effect from butterfly until it becomes good
>>581218841They only removed killbinding due to crying about Rem funneling
>>581218302skill issue, good players still maintain high win rate while bad players maintain low win rate
>>581218624if the enemy team didn't force a fight with such a huge lead pre rift, zone them from rift, or force a fight immediately post rift before they could spend the souls they deserved to lose
>>581218841if only yoshi wasn't the brownest nigger since brown nigger came to brown nigger town
>>581219237They did though. Enemy team even did a smart play by letting them take rift and wiping them out after. They knew how to play against comeback to some extent, but it's too strong
What heroes other than Sinclair do I play if I want to do whimsical and funny shit, like go full looney tunes kind of stuff? And what build do I use?
>>581218624When I was spamming victor on ranked most of my games ended up being like this where us (the archmother) got railed for 20+ minutes but it didn't fucking matter and we won anyway lolThis was before egg spam became meta so I have zero doubt its worse now. Mid phantom btw so not a low elo thing.
>>581219259actually you are the brownest nigger spamming off topic webms every thread
>>581219385okay so if that's the case, the play is to fight pre rift or position to zone rift if fighting post rift doesn't work
>>581219671>off topic webmshe just posted his ukrainian teammate???
>>581219476Witchmail no ult Ivy if you're playing against actual troglodytes who don't understand why your aoe stun has zero cooldown
>>581219476melee ivy with toon ivy mod
>>581199634This is a lot of coping to try and pretend Celeste isn't one of the most overpowered characters in the entire game.Slowing hex does nothing to Celeste, at all. Knockdown doesn't do anything either. Phantom Strike is okay but not what you want against Celeste.At no point did I bring up Gun Celeste. Her gun does mostly spirit damage anyway like all the other overpowered characters in the game, and saying 'no it isn't auto aim because the projectile is slow!' doesn't matter when she can be in your face and leave whenever she wants.The shield isn't a joke either, it has plenty of HP, hits people in an AoE (and does more than enough spirit damage to heal a chunk off of) and the silence is not necessary at all. It basically punishes you for doing the only viable tactic to kill Celeste, which is dogpiling her.Mina and Wraith are a different brand of awful because teleports that make you invincible and have no startup should never be in any game ever.
>>581218624 (me)And they just won. Ended 320k to 262k souls. Comeback mechanics, I guess.
>>581218624he used hype moments and aura as warden
>>581200156That's because Celeste is a broken character and whichever team has her is like 10% more likely to win, just by picking her, let alone having someone who knows how to abuse how broken she is.
>>581219783it's actually mo krill trying to use the unstuck command
>>581219605The Eternus streamers I watch that are permatilted and unemployed are telling me you don't know how to play the game until E6 though.
>>581218960Just make killbind delete the bag.
>>581220156The only thing that makes comebacks impossible is tilt, the game actively punishes people for being ahead so never give up etc etcI am a victor abuser though... AND PROUD FUCK Y'ALL NIGGAS BUFF VICTOR REMOVE SPIRIT BURN REMOVE HEAL BANE
>>581214316He's never been balanced, ever. Everything wrong with Celeste was first wrong with Shiv. Too tanky, too much damage, absurd mobility that nobody can keep up with, and a gun that is either used solely for movement (shiv) and therefore you can ignore gun items entirely, or it is an auto-aim ezmode gun (Celeste)
>>581220378you can actually unironically build gun on shiv now (think geist but even better) and win just as well
>>581220378you play warden right
>>581220570You can do that, but his gun is better used solely as a free movement passive instead.
>>581214316Execute on Axe works because he wasn't mobile and culling doesn't fly an entire screen when casting it
>>581220693execute in this game either needs to be ranged or mobile to actually execute people in this game.
>>581220802That's more of a problem of the movement in this game being spastic and janky and overpowered, you can't land anything on anyone unless they're on the ground, and everyone is just in the air constantly.
>>581221126it's more of a personal problem I think
>>581217387>cc spam will only get worse>cc was largely untouched yet in its strongest historical state around 3 months ago with the urn reworkhm
>>581220263all that's going to accomplish is giving browns and zoomers the perfect avenue for griefing their own team when they think the match is lost so they start taking all the unsecured souls on your side of the map then quietly suiciding it away
>>581217387That's gonna make at least half the tranny devs kill themselves though.
>>581221647You can literally already do that without a bindMaking changes to avoid griefing is nonsense when 1 person can already force a loss if they want to
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>>581153462Fuck are you talking about? You climb on a negative winrate and the match is decided by who has the least negative winrate retards on their team
>>581189075>rivals>devs listening to casualsThem listening to casuals has done more harm to the game's balance then any suggestion the average pro/streamer has. For example the support strike.
>>581153462What are you talking about? The matchmaking update didn't do anything besides make everyone have to climb out of the retard ranks except a bunch of high rank players got mixed in, so games were decided even MORE by which team got more feeding retards.
>>581218105I accept your concession
I should have more ban slots.
What the plan when your team keeps baiting you into teamfights and then leaving without saying anything
>>581226172Racial slurs over voice
new silver build found?
I was actually kind of hoping for the item patch before the content patchwonder why they switched the order. hope it wasn't caving to the community getting antsy for new toys
>>581226568Merc mag doesn't work on her so its all larp
>>581226568Needs Overflow and echo shard
>>581226723works on everyone
>>581197345objectively yes, but valvedrones will try to deny it
>>581204818calico for sure
>>581226341They were all white
>>581228004like american white or real white
>>581227228every thread has 30 minimum posts bitching about it man what are you on about
>>581228060American white
What do you build for damage on Haze, feels like late game I'm just a tickle monster even at max stacksI am already using merc mag and shit
Merc MagSpiritual OverflowSiphon Bullets
>>581228157american whites are easy just say nigger and they go crazy
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>>581226809>Silver literally gets 1/7th the damage from merc mag of every other heroYeah no it's shit in wolf form
Spellslinger on Silver. You usually hit all of your abilities before you go wolf, giving you +44% Fire rate. Hit two more buttons, up to +66%. Better yet, Reload time goes down by -60%. On empty mag, she forces two bullets in before you can even fire. Spam reload while shooting and she reloads between shots, unlimited ammo. And then you get 5% off your ability cooldowns.
>>581227228I got into a habit of checking that stuff and it's honestly amazing how many people are either very unlucky or very lucky but so few are average.I don't know what that means but it definitely means something.
>try out the epic performance config files that are meant to boost fps>they don't end up giving me any extra performance and have the same fps overall as without>except the performance configs makes my game randomly crash in matcheswell these fucking suck
>>581231009at least your game is not stuttering at random moments
>>581228417I have my lovense trigger every time my quality of life mod picks up someone proccing any of these items.
>>581230716i was playing around with this trying to fireratemaxxit's 'good' but you get so much more from Frenzy>procs on half health, which is already a Bloodlust activator>debuff resist which is goated>instant 5 stacks worth of Spellslanger fire rate>werewolves can have a little bit of salamilifesteal>crazy extra MOVE speed>can get almost 100% uptime with Duration and Diviner's Kevlar*>*Kevlar gives 'health' but keeps your HP low so it can re-apply Frenzyif her gun dealt more damage, Spellslinger could have better use
>>581231687ivy player...
>>581231687I do this and say thist. Mina main
>get Graves in ranked>team mate whining about me playing a bad character>15 minutes in I'm 7-0>enemy whining about me playing an OP characterFuckin love this character
>>581233603>t.
>>581234136Call me Gregor Samsa the way I get MVP
I'm leaning towards maining Sinclair. Who else should I learn? I enjoy almost everyone, really only dislike Vindicta and Haze. Not a fan of sniping or stealth
>>581235161supportsissies should learn dyanmo ivy kelvin
>>581235264Sinclair isn't support.
>enemy pressed F once>instantly lose lanecan they reduce the fucking parry stun please
losing lane doesn't matterlosing midgame and mental matters
>>581235771that's true
>>581235771losing lane doesn't matterbut if you're bad you're not going to suddenly become better after laning is finished
>>581236073there are enough comeback mechanics and 5 other people on the team that losing any given lane really doesn't matter but the mental boom that can come from losing lane and/or losing midgame equals a loss
>>581235771Losing anything besides midboss doesn't matter.
>>581235771>losing lane doesn't matterMidwit retardation
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>>581219825>This is a lot of coping to try and pretend Celeste isn't one of the most overpowered characters in the entire game.I agreed her ult is overtuned, you're just misdiagnosing why she's strong.>Slowing hex does nothing to Celeste, at all.That's bullshit since it literally counters the whole premise of her movement (gravity scale).>Knockdown doesn't do anything either.It's not a good item against mobility, I wouldn't recommend it. Mina can fly away, Dynamo can quantum entangle, etc. Too telegraphed and easy to counter.>Phantom Strike is okay but not what you want against Celeste.It's goated with Arctic Blast imo.>At no point did I bring up Gun Celeste. Her gun does mostly spirit damage anyway I know. Gun Celeste is a Light Eater build. She's currently built off tank/ ult bot instead. Light Eater is great damage but unreliable and high risk.>The shield isn't a joke eitherWithout it she dies instantaneously since she needs to frequently enter point blank to proc Light Eater or reliably land bullets. The damage it deals is enough to kill critical health targets, but no one is exactly going to be placing their bets on it. If it were THAT good people would be building for it, but it's more like the minimum defense required to pilot the character.Like, character abilities should be allowed to do things. You're arguing over literally every part of her kit leaving nothing left if addressed directly.
